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| 16:46.29 | *** topic/#dub by Pimpinella -> Welcome to the notorious Donjon's Ugly Beasts channel || DUB team score 1421 || Greetings to our friends from other teams || Welcome to all Jr. Dubians!!! || New fresh DUB-site available at http://dub.bzleague.com |
| 18:03.22 | Birdie | pimpinella: may /flag reset be added as command for cops on dub? |
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| 18:11.13 | *** topic/#dub is Welcome to the notorious Donjon's Ugly Beasts channel || DUB team score 1421 || Greetings to our friends from other teams || Welcome to all Jr. Dubians!!! || New fresh DUB-site available at http://dub.bzleague.com |
| 19:41.33 | Pimpinella | Birdie: for viper? |
| 19:41.40 | Birdie | dub |
| 19:41.43 | Birdie | 5156 |
| 19:41.54 | Birdie | its not the first time a flag can dissapear:) |
| 19:41.54 | Pimpinella | recovering lost flags? |
| 19:41.58 | Birdie | ya |
| 19:42.00 | Pimpinella | hm |
| 19:42.04 | Pimpinella | well, yes |
| 19:42.28 | Pimpinella | dub is fine |
| 19:43.03 | Pimpinella | btw. meno is new full admin on my servers |
| 19:43.24 | Birdie | ah ok |
| 19:43.30 | Birdie | if you ever need one more...:) |
| 19:44.06 | Pimpinella | as soon as you fit the requirements ;) |
| 19:44.38 | Birdie | lol is it so hard to pass it? |
| 19:47.08 | Pimpinella | knowledge about unix in general and debian GNU/Linux in special, good knowledge of bzfs setup, high grade of continuity, knowledge about network security issues and bzflag internas |
| 19:47.31 | Pimpinella | these are the ones you might miss yet... |
| 19:48.11 | Pimpinella | oh, and not already some high graded admin on another server... |
| 19:48.18 | Birdie | hepcat |
| 19:48.25 | Birdie | full admin |
| 19:48.28 | Birdie | all privs |
| 19:48.32 | Pimpinella | you are? |
| 19:48.41 | Birdie | just cant add people as cop or admin because its a bzbb thing |
| 19:48.41 | Birdie | ya |
| 19:48.48 | Birdie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.01 | Birdie | me, jomojo, orange, cosmos silverfox and jbdigriz are |
| 19:49.09 | Pimpinella | no time for playing at all lately :( |
| 19:49.25 | Birdie | and thing you said about unix linux etc, you are right:) |
| 19:49.59 | Birdie | but at least i have the high grade on another server allready): |
| 19:50.34 | Pimpinella | thats why i need help with the server, havn't the time to keep the server well maintained |
| 19:51.20 | Birdie | i can be the one of the "sportive things" the playing things, and meno is good for the theory behind it with unix and linux:) |
| 19:51.36 | Pimpinella | sure, but thats the point. admins should concentrate on _one_ server, it's enough work keeping one popular server well maintained |
| 19:51.48 | Pimpinella | hehe |
| 19:52.29 | Birdie | but ya, you know what i can and what i cant, if you ever need me, i'm there |
| 19:52.56 | Pimpinella | sure, thank you and also for your work on dub and hepcat :) |
| 19:53.06 | Birdie | np:) |
| 19:53.27 | Pimpinella | now i neeeeeeeeed a SHOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:53.45 | Birdie | ya its pretty hot aint it:) |
| 19:54.09 | Pimpinella | and i had to do dirty, dusty work all day |
| 19:55.00 | Birdie | coding?:) |
| 19:55.26 | Birdie | btw i came full prived on hepcat so i could change the settings if some fool came in and messed up with gravity etc |
| 20:06.08 | Pimpinella | i whish it was coding, but no, i had to make hay |
| 20:06.22 | Birdie | ~dict hay |
| 20:06.30 | Birdie | bird seed lol |
| 20:06.46 | Pimpinella | gried grass |
| 20:06.50 | Pimpinella | dried |
| 20:06.53 | Birdie | ooh |
| 20:07.02 | Birdie | ya thats a hard job IF you had to do it all day |
| 20:07.10 | Birdie | tomorrow i have to cut the grass during 35 degrees |
| 20:07.34 | Pimpinella | in your familiy's garden? |
| 20:08.07 | Pimpinella | oh, i didn't answer you before, i trust you 100 %, no doubt |
| 20:08.38 | Birdie | ya my parents garden, but i need 2hours to cut it, and in the sun is that hard:) |
| 20:08.40 | Birdie | and ty |
| 20:11.57 | Pimpinella | the difference betwen hepcat and pimpi.org is, that i understand admins as server operators, kinda co-maintainers |
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| 20:12.20 | Birdie | who need to have enough knowledge about it |
| 20:12.25 | Birdie | what i dont |
| 20:12.44 | Pimpinella | not speaking about you, but more generally |
| 20:13.46 | Pimpinella | cosmos and silverfox are both quite restrictive about other ppl configuring their servers |
| 20:14.05 | Pimpinella | though they also have phases where the servers are badly maintained |
| 20:14.06 | Birdie | there are SO much different than you;) |
| 20:14.28 | Pimpinella | don't laugh about it, yes, they are |
| 20:14.52 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 20:14.52 | Birdie | didnt meaned to put you in the bad way |
| 20:14.56 | Birdie | i like you much more than them |
| 20:14.58 | Birdie | :) |
| 20:15.26 | Pimpinella | ty ;) |
| 20:15.42 | Pimpinella | <-- wine & family |
| 20:15.47 | Birdie | :) |
| 20:15.49 | Birdie | hmm wine |
| 20:15.50 | Birdie | enjoy |
| 20:15.56 | Birdie | i have to match |
| 20:15.59 | Pimpinella | later :) |
| 20:16.07 | Birdie | jep:) nice chat |
| 20:16.33 | Pimpinella | (and i like you much more than cosmos and sfx too...) |
| 20:16.49 | Birdie | (au thats nice:) |
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| 22:50.04 | jomojo | Pimpinella: & Birdie: as hepcat owners I believe birdie and I have access to a quite a bit which we have no knowledge of... Silverfox has been looking for one of us to help maintain the tybox servers... at least he was. But since i have no knowledge of such code i am of little help... Instead my role is mainly to adjust /set commands as needed due to hackers or small errors. Or to /reset * or superkill in times of need. |
| 22:51.10 | Pimpinella | yeah, maybe |
| 22:51.40 | Birdie | ya , because i have no knowledge of something else, i have to do that |
| 22:51.41 | jomojo | Oh right for a while we were helping maintain the cops and junior admins group list and adding and deleting... But it got to complicated 5 different people adding so we gave specific groups to specific owners... |
| 22:51.44 | Pimpinella | jb talked about direct server access once iirc |
| 22:52.07 | jomojo | JB has code knowledge... i don't |
| 22:52.20 | Birdie | btw jomojo: jb digris has to stop thinking some people cheat all the time |
| 22:52.27 | jomojo | yeah, maybe??? |
| 22:52.40 | jomojo | i know he is a rather ... uhm up tight... |
| 22:53.00 | Birdie | a guy i know plays with different nicks, and always when jb is there when he is shot, jb goes to observer, and talks to other admins and drives with the guy |
| 22:53.15 | jomojo | you mean Mikkel??? |
| 22:53.26 | Pimpinella | he has always been somewhat paranoid |
| 22:53.40 | Birdie | ya you know he plays undercover on hepcat(pls dont tell..very few know) |
| 22:54.13 | Birdie | and about the superflags in a row: |
| 22:54.32 | jomojo | yeah mikke and I have talked about it a few times... while he and rarely play much online.. we often chat icq |
| 22:54.36 | Pimpinella | them he should have found that mik is just the most talented tank driver i ever saw |
| 22:54.53 | Pimpinella | i've ever seen |
| 22:54.56 | Birdie | 5 seconds after a drop of a flag, the flag goes to the map again, if he drops gm(out of bullets), he looks at the whole map, and see where the flag goes and get it. JBdigris thinks he has a flagcheat.. |
| 22:55.08 | Birdie | jb doesnt know its mikkel |
| 22:55.13 | Birdie | (undercover nicks) |
| 22:55.37 | jomojo | yeah well its okay.. .mikke doesn't seem to mind to much |
| 22:55.43 | Pimpinella | can be configured to manke it more random |
| 22:55.55 | Pimpinella | make |
| 22:55.57 | jomojo | and i can always unban him.. if jb goes overboard |
| 22:56.07 | Birdie | ya i told mikko that to |
| 22:56.22 | jomojo | yeah on hepcat it is not to hard to get a flag 3 or more times in a row if you carefully observe |
| 22:56.31 | Pimpinella | i hate when flags are predictable |
| 22:56.49 | Birdie | certainly with geno:) |
| 22:56.59 | jomojo | not predictable per say... but you can see them land on the radar after you lose it. |
| 22:57.06 | jomojo | but yeah |
| 22:57.34 | Birdie | if you practice it, its a real weapon(see where good flags are dropped) |
| 22:58.02 | jomojo | but i do not believe the cheat client that allows u to see which flags are which works on hepcat |
| 22:58.39 | Birdie | or for example a color flag cheat |
| 22:58.53 | Birdie | geno yellow, gm blue flags ,etc |
| 22:58.58 | jomojo | Pimpinella: you have something blocks that on vipers right? |
| 22:59.02 | Birdie | (dunno if it even excists) |
| 22:59.43 | Pimpinella | it's just a matter of configuration |
| 22:59.47 | jomojo | that cheat exists.. at least it did.. i helped cosmos check it on 1.10 |
| 22:59.59 | Pimpinella | but yes, i have a fix for it on viper |
| 23:00.12 | jomojo | don't see why it couldn't be made for 2.0 |
| 23:00.27 | Pimpinella | that cheat exists, but was fixed in 2.0.1 |
| 23:00.48 | Pimpinella | now all flags seem to be PZ |
| 23:01.24 | jomojo | oh i think silverfox needed a patch for cvs... |
| 23:01.40 | Pimpinella | patch? |
| 23:01.51 | jomojo | it seems as the numbers that appear on hud list have disapeared |
| 23:02.35 | Pimpinella | was in 202 already iirc |
| 23:02.47 | jomojo | huh? |
| 23:02.50 | Pimpinella | but you have HIDEADMIN, no? |
| 23:03.10 | jomojo | yeah.. hideadmin on tybox servers for owners only |
| 23:03.27 | Pimpinella | you won't see the slot numbers then |
| 23:03.51 | Pimpinella | no @ no numbers |
| 23:03.57 | jomojo | really... i mean i can when i hit /playerlist |
| 23:04.17 | jomojo | and the cops and junior admins have @ and they cannot see the numbers either |
| 23:04.36 | Pimpinella | sure, /playerlist is server side, slot numbers on scoreboard is client side |
| 23:04.47 | Pimpinella | oh, thats strange |
| 23:04.51 | Pimpinella | lemme c |
| 23:05.03 | jomojo | i am on tybox. 5155 |
| 23:07.14 | Pimpinella | 8.3.2005 |
| 23:07.24 | Pimpinella | when was 202? |
| 23:07.53 | Pimpinella | hm, febuary |
| 23:07.57 | jomojo | oh silverfox uses 2.0.3 cvs |
| 23:08.01 | Pimpinella | so it's not in 202 |
| 23:08.47 | jomojo | no when he upgraded it seems to have not worked for tybox servers. but cosmos did not have the same troubles.. with nearly the same cvs date and upgrade |
| 23:08.48 | Pimpinella | your cops must use cvs clients to see it |
| 23:09.20 | Pimpinella | it's a client side only feature |
| 23:09.35 | jomojo | what about me who does use cvs client??? and why can they see it on cosmos which is cvs? |
| 23:09.48 | Pimpinella | hideadmin |
| 23:09.50 | jomojo | oy... this crap gives me an headache trying to figure it out |
| 23:10.30 | Pimpinella | you might have it on tybox, not on hepcat though |
| 23:11.01 | jomojo | i see... i hope |
| 23:11.21 | jomojo | so the hideadmin is what is doing it on tybox... |
| 23:11.21 | Pimpinella | there was a prior server patch that added slot number to email sring |
| 23:11.23 | jomojo | ?? |
| 23:11.47 | Pimpinella | hideadmin hides admin status from clients |
| 23:12.17 | Pimpinella | if your client doesn't know you're admin it wont render slots |
| 23:12.45 | Pimpinella | that server patch was never official though |
| 23:12.54 | Pimpinella | dirty hack |
| 23:13.27 | jomojo | i never did like being hid as an admin on tybox servers.. |
| 23:13.32 | Pimpinella | so cosmos might have used it once, i doubt he stll does though |
| 23:14.21 | Pimpinella | so, is you're shown with @ on scoreboard you should also see slots |
| 23:14.37 | Pimpinella | independently of the server versin |
| 23:14.40 | Pimpinella | version |
| 23:14.47 | jomojo | well i have to run... i will cya guys later... thanks for the tutorial pimpi |
| 23:15.00 | Pimpinella | np, cu jomojo |
| 23:29.10 | Birdie | i wonder when you sleep pimpinella |
| 23:29.15 | Birdie | you are always so late on |
| 23:29.20 | Birdie | and you are so early on:'( |