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00:37.12CIA-2navi-misc: 03micah * r7254 10rio-karma/python/RioKarma/SSDP.py: Yay, SSDP works
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01:01.04CIA-2navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7255 10evo/publish-calendar/url-editor-dialog.c: add a function to build a GnomeVFS URI from all the input fields
01:48.08CIA-2navi-misc: 03micah * r7256 10rio-karma/python/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
01:48.09CIA-2navi-misc: Well, it won't retry correctly if you enter an incorrect password, but this now
01:48.09CIA-2navi-misc: correctly finds a rio on the local network with SSDP then uses a keychain
01:48.09CIA-2navi-misc: database to save the password you enter (keyed by the device's MAC address)
01:52.52darth_mallyay Blink-182
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04:13.10CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7257 10gdesklets/ (. mpc/ mpc/player.display): Start a gdesklet for mpd
04:37.09CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7258 10gdesklets/mpc/player.display: Might as well use the side candy template.
04:48.15CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7259 10gdesklets/mpc/player.display: whitespace
04:49.18CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7260 10gdesklets/mpc/player.display: ws again
05:01.10CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7261 10gdesklets/mpc/ (images/ images/bg.png player.display): Default background
05:06.20CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7262 10gdesklets/mpc/ (candy.script player.display): need the script with the fancy SideCandy behaviour
05:14.31KeyserLaptoper, backlog
05:16.58KeyserLaptopwe talked about something like that in #tacobeam a couple months back, but nobody imagined it as being specifically for games
05:17.17KeyserLaptopi guess that's a lot bigger market than people wanting to do simulations...
05:18.01KeyserLaptopprobably the best way to get the market interested aside from games would be to make it accelerate matlab
05:20.42CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7263 10gdesklets/mpc/ (54 files in 8 dirs):
05:20.42CIA-2navi-misc: The thought occurs... instead of starting from scratch,
05:20.42CIA-2navi-misc: let's shamelessly use the existing mpc gdesklet to start
05:20.42CIA-2navi-misc: with.
05:58.21CIA-2navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7264 10evo/publish-calendar/ (publish-calendar.c url-editor-dialog.c): make it a bunch less crashy
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07:14.43CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7265 10gdesklets/mpc/player.display: bleh... not gettin' anywhere more on this just now
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08:14.46CIA-2navi-misc: 03evan * r7266 10gdesklets/mpc/ (images/playlist.png player.display): Add a playlist button to the gdesklet... not hooked up yet.
08:50.33CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3012.1.1 10openembedded/packages/lua/lua-build.inc: Disable parallel make in the lua builds.
09:53.40CIA-2galago: 03chipx86 * r1525 10web/htdocs/docs/ (guides/versioning.php index.php): Add the Versioning Scheme page.
10:00.53CIA-2galago: 03chipx86 * r1526 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Might as well do this while I'm awake.. Bump the version to 0.2.90, in preparation of an inevitable release.
10:01.26CIA-2galago: 03chipx86 * r1527 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Bump the version to 0.2.90.
10:02.19CIA-2galago: 03chipx86 * r1528 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Bump the version to 0.2.90.
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10:43.13CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3014.1.1 10openembedded/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
10:43.13CIA-2openembedded: Perl:
10:43.13CIA-2openembedded:  * Add perl 5.8.4.
10:43.13CIA-2openembedded:  * Fix the perl build for uclibc (patch courtesy Manuel Novoa III).
10:43.13CIA-2openembedded:  * Add config.sh-i686-linux.
10:59.33CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3015.1.2 10openembedded/packages/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Add autoconf to automake's RDEPENDS. Add automake to autoconf's RRECOMMENDS.
11:13.07CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3019 10openembedded/packages/perl/perl.inc: Have the perl build create a config.sh-armeb-linux, based on the arm-linux one. Completely untested.
11:19.47CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3020 10openembedded/packages/bitbake/ (bitbake_1.1.bb bitbake_1.0.bb): Add the tagged bitbake 1.0 and 1.1 versions.
11:32.39CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3021 10openembedded/packages/bash/bash_3.0.bb: Fix the bash build for uclibc and kill the dangerous /bin/sh alternatives bits.
11:48.44CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3022 10openembedded/packages/bash/bash_3.0.bb: Make the bash build inherit gettext, and disable parallel make.
12:20.50CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3023 10openembedded/packages/patch/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add patch (version 2.5.9).
12:20.52CIA-2autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/apbuild/relaytool: Fixes from Fernando Herrera
12:31.59CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3024 10openembedded/packages/diffstat/diffstat_1.38.bb: Add diffstat 1.38.
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18:33.08CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1035 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex:
18:33.08CIA-2spacegrant: Start typing up James' notes on conversion from ECI to
18:33.08CIA-2spacegrant: RIC for everyone's learning pleasure.
18:46.41CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1036 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex: Through the calculation of Greenwich sidereal time
18:50.00CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3024.1.1 10openembedded/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Apply config-guess-uclibc patch from gentoo, which makes it able to pick up on a uclibc environment when run in one. This should fix ./configure scripts run natively inside linux-uclibc root filesystems.
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18:54.34CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1037 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex: You are the perfect drug
19:12.40CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1038 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex: Formatting things
19:42.43CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1039 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex: More formatting changes.
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20:02.08CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1040 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex: Rotational matrix
20:03.39TDChipX86: so
20:03.47TDChipX86: some hot russian chick living in the UK wants to meet me
20:03.49TDdo i go?
20:04.44CosmicPenguinDoes a catholic bear crap on Sundays in the woods?
20:04.50robtaylorTD: if you don't, can have her number? ;)
20:04.57CosmicPenguinsorry - that go out of control
20:05.02TDheh
20:05.04robtaylorlol
20:05.13TDrobtaylor: if *i* get it, sure ;)
20:05.21robtaylorlolol
20:24.03robtaylorhmm, who here's interested in the libnotify/galago/libim/libgaim stuff?
20:24.28TDthat'd be me and ChipX86
20:25.32robtaylorTD: would you like to join us in #libgaim?
20:26.06kergothheh, hey robtaylor
20:26.14robtaylorkergoth: hey :)
20:26.25robtaylori seem to have got my finger in a new pie
20:28.39CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1041 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex: I think this is pretty much done for now
20:35.02CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1042 10doc-misc/adcs/coordinate_conversions.tex:
20:35.03CIA-2spacegrant: The section on ECI to Geocentric conversions looks good.
20:35.03CIA-2spacegrant: Time to send off an e-mail to the rest of the team.
20:37.37ChipX86man, eating outside is like eating at summer camp
20:37.48kergothhah
20:45.24CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3030 10openembedded/packages/gcc/ (6 files):
20:45.24CIA-2openembedded: Gcc 3.4.x:
20:45.24CIA-2openembedded:  Bump PR.
20:45.24CIA-2openembedded:  Set --with-sysroot for the target gcc build, which fixes the "missing syslimits.h" problem.
20:45.24CIA-2openembedded:  Gcc packaging updates: split out gcov and cpp, package the /lib/cpp symlink, and rename the -c++ and -f77 packages.
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21:08.28CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3031 10openembedded/packages/perl/ (perl_5.8.4.bb perl.inc): perl: Mangle one of the test results in the config.sh's when creating the uclibc versions, to ensure it doesn't believe uclibc supports something it doesnt.
21:18.34CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3032 10openembedded/packages/automake/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
21:18.34CIA-2openembedded: Apply patch to fix a bug where automake was using a path (PERL variable,
21:18.34CIA-2openembedded: AC_PATH_PROG macro) from the build machine in binaries for the target.
21:18.34CIA-2openembedded: This resulted in the automake ipk being completely useless. Modified it to
21:18.34CIA-2openembedded: call '/usr/bin/env perl' instead.
21:31.07CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3033 10openembedded/packages/automake/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Fix the automake paths fix.. it wasnt subst'ing @bindir@.
21:43.49CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3034 10openembedded/packages/automake/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Fix the automake path bits .. again .. forgot to patch Makefile.in while i was patching Makefile.am, so the automake build tried to call the local automake on its own buildsystem before it built it..
21:46.37CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3035 10openembedded/packages/autoconf/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
21:46.37CIA-2openembedded: Automake:
21:46.37CIA-2openembedded:  * Add gnu-config to its RDEPENDS.
21:46.37CIA-2openembedded:  * Add m4-native/m4 to DEPENDS/RDEPENDS.
21:46.37CIA-2openembedded:  * Apply a patch to fix more usage of AC_PATH_PROG() paths in a runtime
21:46.38CIA-2openembedded:  binary. autoconf was doing so both with PERL and M4.
21:47.27CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3036 10openembedded/BitKeeper/deleted/ (5 files): Kill off libtool 1.4.3.
21:48.45CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3037 10openembedded/packages/libtool/ (libtool_1.5.bb libtool_1.5.6.bb libtool_1.5.10.bb): Fix the libtool packaging to include the aclocal m4 files in the 'libtool' package rather than 'libtool-dev'.
21:49.41CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3038 10openembedded/site/ (i686-linux i686-linux-uclibc): Swipe some test results from the arm linux site file for some C library related things for various packages for the i686-linux-* site files.
21:50.45CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3039 10openembedded/packages/m4/m4-native_1.4.2.bb: Fix the m4-native build.
21:52.32CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3040 10openembedded/packages/perl/ (perl_5.8.4.bb files/config.sh-i686-linux): Fixes for the perl config.sh for i686-linux.
21:55.58CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3036.1.5 10openembedded/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Kill off some old appweb versions, and fix the appweb build to pass 'linux' into its configure script rather than 'linux-uclibc' when targeting uclibc.
21:56.30CosmicPenguinkergoth is on fire today
21:57.35kergothhehe
21:57.44robtaylorCosmicPenguin: yah, not seen that many checkin
21:57.57robtaylors in the space of 2 hours for a long time ;)
21:59.14kergothrobtaylor: heh. fixing native development in oe root filesystems
21:59.38CosmicPenguinyou finally decided to move to OE with your desktop, then? :)
21:59.43kergothhehe
21:59.53kergothi'm using an oe rootfs in my coLinux on my windows box
21:59.57kergothso yeah, pretty much
22:00.09kergoththe debian image on the colinux site sucks ass
22:00.16kergoththe oe bootstrap image kicked its ass pretty good
22:00.18kergothi was amused
22:03.37pb_heh, that's cool
22:03.40robtaylorkergoth: your rock, in a slightly insane way ;)
22:03.56robtaylors/your/you
22:04.20kergothhm, the dropbear ssh client still sucks
22:04.29kergothcant connect to a buncho f my boxes
22:05.25pb_doh
22:05.33pb_has anybody managed to figure out what it's actually doing wrong?
22:06.00kergothi dont think anyone's really dug into it
22:06.15kergothssh: connection to root@192.168.1.102:22 exited: No auth methods could be used.
22:06.18kergothroot@colinux:~#
22:06.24kergothno auth methods.. hmm
22:06.25pb_yeah, that's the usual error
22:06.40kergothbleh, dropbear ssh needs a verbose option
22:06.41kergothheh
22:06.57pb_which is odd, because it sounds like the server isn't offering keyboard-interactive.
22:07.43kergothi wonder if it works with a key.
22:07.45kergothshould try
22:07.50pb_good idea
22:08.40pb_dbclient: connection to pb@localhost:22 exited: No auth methods could be used.
22:08.41pb_heh
22:08.48kergothheh
22:09.49pb_debug1: userauth-request for user pb service ssh-connection method none
22:09.52pb_[...]
22:09.59pb_Failed none for pb from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 port 33951 ssh2
22:10.02kergothheh, none?
22:10.02kergothwtf
22:10.07pb_that doesn't sound good
22:10.23kergothhaha
22:10.24kergothroot@colinux:~# ssh -i key 192.168.1.102
22:10.24kergothssh: exited: string too long
22:10.24kergothroot@colinux:~#
22:10.32pb_!
22:11.38CosmicPenguingah
22:13.24pb_ah, I see, dropbear seems to send a request for auth "none" to find out what authentication methods are supported.
22:13.32kergothah
22:13.34kergothis that kosher?
22:13.39pb_presumably then it's meant to try again with either password or pubkey auth, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
22:13.51pb_no idea
22:14.06pb_I'll build a binary with debug on to find out what's up
22:15.37darth_mallpfff... you people and your debugging
22:15.37darth_mallyou should just find a channel and start vaguely complaining about errors
22:15.37kergoth@deepthought
22:15.37kbotkergoth: If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness.
22:15.37darth_malllol
22:15.37kergothhah
22:16.23pb_TRACE: Methods (len 30): 'publickey,keyboard-interactive'
22:16.23pb_TRACE: auth method 'publickey'
22:16.23pb_TRACE: auth method 'keyboard-interactive'
22:16.28pb_hrm
22:16.43pb_so, it does seem to be managing to elicit that list
22:18.49pb_oh, but dropbear doesn't understand "keyboard-interactive".
22:18.53pb_it wants to see "password".
22:18.54pb_duh
22:19.03kergothaha
22:22.50pb_http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-secsh-auth-kbdinteract-06.txt
22:22.56pb_that seems to be the spec for keyboard-interactive authentication
22:23.16pb_I guess someone needs to write a patch to add that to dropbear
22:25.00pb_alternatively, setting "PasswordAuthentication yes" in sshd_config will probably clear it up as well.
22:25.01ChipX86it's perfect just the way it is
22:25.14ChipX86except the name. It sounds sad. We should call it smilingbear
22:25.35kergothpb_: ah, cool, at least we have a workaround. heh
22:25.55pb_yeah
22:26.09CosmicPenguinheh - smilingbear
22:26.10CosmicPenguinthats cute
22:26.17darth_mallChipX86: is good at being cute
22:26.36CosmicPenguinI've seen his harem pictures - it seems to work
22:26.44ChipX86heh
22:26.55ChipX86I need American Grub plates
22:28.02purple_cowamerican grub plates would r0x0r
22:29.06ChipX86http://www.deviantart.com/view/15745456/
22:29.09ChipX86it's just so cute
22:29.16pb_kergoth: yeah.  I just checked, and it works fine with that change to the sshd configuration.
22:29.22pb_on my machine, at least
22:29.23kergothgreat
22:29.39CosmicPenguinWEll now - isn't that cute
22:30.01CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3042 10openembedded/packages/automake/ (automake_1.9.3.bb automake_1.9.2.bb):
22:30.02CIA-2openembedded: Merge oe-devel@oe-devel.bkbits.net:openembedded
22:30.02CIA-2openembedded: into handhelds.org:/home/kergoth/code/openembedded
22:30.02CIA-2openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3040.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (6 files in 2 dirs): autoconf and automake: don't apply the path fixes in the native builds.
22:30.32darth_mallpurple_cow: did you get my msg this morning about the dentist?
22:30.46purple_cowdarth_mall: yeah
22:32.49darth_mallmk
22:34.15kergothpb_: heh, dh_perl only looks at your package and adds a dep on perl/perl-base
22:34.29kergothpb_: it isnt smart enough to look at your perl bits and see what modules you're actually using
22:34.32kergoth:\
22:34.45pb_kergoth: doh, that's no good
22:35.03pb_<PROTECTED>
22:35.03pb_<PROTECTED>
22:35.08kergothyeah
22:35.08pb_that's what the manpage claims it does
22:35.16kergoththats indeed all it does
22:35.21pb_drat
22:35.37pb_I guess Debian ships enough stuff in the big "perl" package that they can get away with that.
22:35.38kergothdh_python does the exact smae thing, but for python
22:35.49kergothwell, itd still be nice for the external modules.
22:35.55pb_yeah
22:36.01pb_I wonder how hard that would be to do.
22:36.43kergothgood question.  you basically want it to pass the code to the interpreter, but actually have it not execute anything but the ops that require external stuff
22:36.47kergothand hook into that
22:36.51kergothsince you wouldnt want to actually _run_ the script
22:36.52kergothheh
22:37.31pb_right
22:40.46CIA-2spacegrant: 03evan * r1045 10mck/PyMCK/ADCS/Controller.py: spin rate calculation function
22:41.21purple_cowdamn, looks like no bluetooth :(
22:42.00kergothlooks like it should be pretty easy to do one for python
22:42.07kergothsince there's a module to access the python parse tree
22:42.12kergothjust poke at it and locate all the imports
22:42.28darth_mallpurple_cow: what were you gonna do with bluetooth?
22:42.41purple_cowdarth_mall: dunno
22:42.52purple_cowbut it would be pretty nifty to have
22:44.56CosmicPenguinAnd that, in a nutshell, is the elevator pitch for bluetooth
22:45.06CosmicPenguin"What will it do?"  "I don't know, but it will be cool"
22:45.29purple_cowCosmicPenguin: :)
22:46.24purple_cowwell, it would be neat to get a bluetooth mouse for this laptop
22:46.42CosmicPenguinI want to play with the bluetooth-alsa project
22:47.00darth_mallpurple_cow: heh
22:49.06CosmicPenguinkergoth: ok, say I have a quilt maintained tree with say, 4 patches
22:49.28CosmicPenguinkergoth: and for release, I make one big patch with quilt diff --snapshot
22:49.48CosmicPenguinAnd I release it, and somebody makes modifications against the patch, and sends those to me in a patch
22:50.10CosmicPenguinIs there any good way in quilt to merge in those changes so the updates get put into the right individual patches?
22:53.17kergothi doubt it.  it could be done, but i doubt it does
22:57.10CosmicPenguinYeah - I think you would have to do it pretty much manually
22:57.25CosmicPenguinquilt add any new files in the diff, apply the patch, and then refresh
22:57.57CosmicPenguinI have to account for it, because I can't imagine that all of my developers would be open to using quilt
22:57.59CosmicPenguindamn them
22:59.14kergoththats the sort of thing i'd expect darcs to be able to handle
22:59.18kergothdue to its design
22:59.24kergothi always wanted to extend patcher to be able to do things like that
23:08.18CosmicPenguinAnyone here on the linux-pm mailing list?
23:55.32robtaylorkergoth: looks like bazaar-ng got its 1st release, thought you might be interested - http://bazaar-ng.org/
23:56.19kergothinteresting
23:56.23kergothhave you used it?
23:56.35robtaylornope, just looked at the webpage just now
23:56.58robtaylori think i'll wait till i hear of people using it before i give it a run
23:57.16robtaylorthe tutorial makes it look like its sane and nice
23:57.26robtaylorat least
23:57.29kergothcool, will have to play with it
23:57.44robtaylor:)
23:58.25kergothas if my todo wasnt long enough already :)
23:58.40robtaylorindeed. hence waiting ;)
23:58.55robtaylori've been using darcs in anger at work, and thats been quite nice
23:59.04robtaylorso it'd be interesting to see how it compares

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