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| 00:01.32 | MikeDebian | heys guys. can't use openvpn gnome GUI once it seems to be forcing TLS 1.3 by default and I have no way to change it. using openvpn client through the cli works fine. I need to use TLS1.0... this seems a bug. Anyone have any clues? |
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| 00:01.55 | MikeDebian | This machine is running Debian 10 btw. this bug didn't exist on Debian 9 |
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| 00:04.25 | drl | sney, the problem was that the install.sh driver installer uses a .rpm file instead of the needed .deb file. The .deb file has to be installed manuallly. |
| 00:05.42 | drl | sney, Thanks for your help. I trying to get the information you requested, I noticed the problem. |
| 00:06.04 | Casper26 | ee |
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| 00:08.55 | jmcnaught | MikeDebian: https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#openssl-defaults |
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| 00:09.22 | sney | drl: np, sometimes all it takes is a hint |
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| 00:40.36 | BCMM | that sounds like a bug in the VPN provider, frankly. TLS 1.0 is deprecated by basically everybody (including, as of March, the four major web browsers) |
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| 00:53.00 | MikeDebian | jmcnaught, thank you. I preferred upgrading the server openssl package instead of allowing a lower tls version on this machine. win/win situation |
| 00:53.08 | MikeDebian | thank you |
| 00:53.59 | MikeDebian | By the way, ffplay under Debian 10 (fresh install) is opening on a window with no top tab/bar, no max/min/close buttons. ffmpeg/ffplay version 4.1.6. What's wrong? how can I launch with the top bar/tab? The option -noborder is actually to hide such bar but I'm not using such option and still I'm getting this weird behavior. I was not getting it under Debian 9 |
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| 01:09.37 | khobo | guys how can i see teh chipset of my mobo |
| 01:09.40 | khobo | from CLI? |
| 01:10.10 | abrotman | dmidecode is probably a good method |
| 01:10.13 | abrotman | hwinfo perhaps |
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| 01:25.02 | khobo | yeah i tried dmidecode |
| 01:25.07 | khobo | couldnt find anythign specifically about teh chipset -=/ |
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| 01:35.00 | t3st3r | <khobo> guys how can i see teh chipset of my mobo <- dmesg and lspci can give some ideas. |
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| 02:00.13 | khobo | boom! |
| 02:00.17 | khobo | lspci -vv worked |
| 02:00.19 | khobo | thanks t3st3r |
| 02:01.32 | t3st3r | yw |
| 02:02.22 | khobo | 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H LPC Controller (rev 31) |
| 02:02.22 | khobo | Subsystem: Lenovo Q170 Chipset LPC/eSPI Controller |
| 02:02.32 | khobo | *squints |
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| 02:02.40 | khobo | is that correct? |
| 02:03.06 | khobo | i'm looking for my motherboard chipset |
| 02:03.34 | khobo | i know it's either b150 or Q170 |
| 02:03.50 | LtL | khobo: lscpu |
| 02:03.59 | khobo | 0:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H SATA controller [AHCI mode] (rev 31) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0]) |
| 02:03.59 | khobo | Subsystem: Lenovo Q170/Q150/B150/H170/H110/Z170/CM236 Chipset SATA Controller [AHCI Mode] |
| 02:04.03 | khobo | that's the only other thing i see |
| 02:04.45 | khobo | lscpu didn't output a chipset |
| 02:07.54 | khobo | is the instruction standard architecture what i'm looking for? |
| 02:07.55 | khobo | the ISA? |
| 02:07.59 | khobo | the ISA chipset* |
| 02:08.22 | khobo | or ISA bridge rather |
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| 02:11.37 | t3st3r | ISA is likely "isa bridge", even new chipsets still pretend they have that vintage thing for compatibility reason. Ofc they dont really route real ISA bus. |
| 02:19.15 | sponix | okay, I just want to be able to set my /etc/resolv.conf dns servers properly so they stick without being overwritten. Is there an easy method of doing that ? |
| 02:20.08 | khobo | t3st3r: so can we assume my motherboards chipset is q170? |
| 02:22.32 | jmcnaught | sponix: what is overwriting it? Are you using DHCP? |
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| 02:53.45 | sponix | jmcnaught: Yes, using dhcp. inside /etc/resolv.conf the header line says "resolvconf" is what is doing it. But I feel that might be LIES |
| 02:54.25 | jmcnaught | sponix: and DHCP does not provide correct DNS? Do you control the DHCP server? |
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| 02:58.38 | sponix | jmcnaught: I want 127.0.0.1 as my nameserver as I am running pi-hole dns on this rig for caching purposes ( mainly ) |
| 03:01.01 | jmcnaught | sponix: and the pi-hold instance is only for the one computer? Maybe the simplest thing to do then is to stop using DHCP and configure the interface manually. |
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| 03:03.22 | dnull | Do you have the resolvconf package installed? And edited /etc/resolvonf/resolv.conf.d/original? |
| 03:03.39 | sponix | jmcnaught: Yeah, I do a static lease for this rig anyway.. so I can just set it static in /etc/network/interfaces it looks like according to https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf |
| 03:04.19 | sponix | dnull: oddly enough that "original" file has some garbage in there that isn't even making it to my /etc/resolv.conf :) |
| 03:05.04 | dnull | sponix: Try updating it with nameserver 4.2.2.2 etc etc etc |
| 03:05.09 | dnull | Or whichever you like |
| 03:05.15 | dnull | Then restart the service |
| 03:05.33 | sponix | this is the contents of /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original https://termbin.com/bpwe |
| 03:06.03 | sponix | dnull: Okay, I will try that method 1st, and if the edit on "original" fails, I will set ip static in interfaces with dns defined there, and try that also |
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| 03:07.00 | dnull | One at a time please |
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| 03:33.48 | sponix | Damn |
| 03:34.19 | sponix | I got /etc/resolv.conf to have the correct contents _now_ ... But "nslookup slashdot.org" is not honoring it anyway |
| 03:34.38 | dnull | Use dig |
| 03:34.46 | dnull | Or dig +trace |
| 03:35.08 | sney | I assume nsswitch.conf is set up right |
| 03:35.09 | sponix | dig is using 1.1.1.1 still also |
| 03:35.16 | sponix | sney: let me check that :) |
| 03:36.10 | sponix | https://termbin.com/a3h4 |
| 03:36.20 | sponix | contents of nsswitch.conf -- still defaults pretty sure |
| 03:36.31 | sney | files first under hosts, that's all that should affect this particular test |
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| 03:37.43 | sponix | hmm, gonna restart my machine and see if this just magically unscrews itself :) |
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| 03:48.59 | sponix | okay, what would cause my system not to honor /etc/resolv.conf for dns ? It is still using 1.1.1.1 instead of 127.0.0.1 for my dns look ups with dig / nslookup etc |
| 03:50.50 | aaro | sponix: using networkmanager? |
| 03:54.05 | sponix | aaro: don't think so |
| 03:54.29 | sponix | goes to look at his backups from before this install |
| 03:57.14 | sponix | hmm, I think I got it unscrewed now |
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| 04:00.25 | sponix | I broke my pi-hole dns -- that is why 127.0.0.1 wasn't resolving anything LOL |
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| 04:50.13 | sponix | dnull sney : thanks for the help. I managed to get a working dns |
| 04:50.32 | dnull | sponix: Nice |
| 04:50.40 | sponix | just amazing how slow the interwebs is without a dns cache |
| 04:51.01 | dnull | Resolution can take time |
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| 07:20.54 | jaggz | darnit. installing a new version of postgresql's "pgadmin", from their own repo, resulted in a python error |
| 07:21.01 | jaggz | now even my uinstalls are failing |
| 07:21.10 | jaggz | (when trying to use another method/repo location) |
| 07:21.13 | jaggz | http://paste.debian.net/1175064/ |
| 07:21.31 | jaggz | that's from the install (seems some python module's too old for it) |
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| 07:24.02 | nkuttler | !errors |
| 07:24.02 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
| 07:24.43 | nkuttler | jaggz: command + full output please |
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| 07:30.36 | jaggz | working on it.. thanks.. and sorry |
| 07:32.14 | jaggz | okay, got it. it was trying to complete the setup of one of the pgadmin modules each time I tried uninstalling the other (like apt remove pgadmin4 would end up trying to set up pgadmin4-desktop, which had the error. uninstalling -desktop specifically removed it cleanly) |
| 07:34.55 | nkuttler | yay |
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| 08:13.43 | jaggz | nkuttler, :) :) thanks |
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| 09:48.52 | ws2k3 | im trying to initialize a vacation db file. so i run vacation -i vacation.db but i keep getting vacation: no such user vacation.db any idea what i could be doing wrong here? |
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| 09:58.47 | vlt | Hello. How can I add an additional partition to block device that contains a Debian-live image generated by live-build? This is my attempt: https://termbin.com/g0vuy |
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| 10:02.00 | _NiC | Looks like a recent update to zsh-common on Debian 9 breaks zsh, because the dependency fails (zsh 5.3.1-4+b3 depends on zsh-common (= 5.3.1-4), which doesn't match 5.3.1-4+deb9u4. Or am I missing something? |
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| 10:04.55 | RoyK | vlt: looks like there's a mess in the partition table there. I don't know Xen, though, but I guess I'd start out with resetting the whole partition table (not just its contents) like this, https://askubuntu.com/questions/211477/how-to-remove-gpt-from-hdd, if that's possible (you'll lose anything on the drive, obviously, so backup first if something is worth having) |
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| 10:07.59 | vlt | RoyK: Thatâs the partition table as created by live-build. I donât think Xen is involved somehow; the partitions look the same on a non-Xen machine. The "data" worth savin gis the ISO image Iâd like to continue to boot from, so I guess any partition entry created in a clean table will be gone after wrting the iso image back onto the medium. |
| 10:11.55 | vlt | RoyK: This is what it looks like on a real machine that has booted from that very device: https://termbin.com/vgnz |
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| 10:14.56 | RoyK | vlt: I don't know, sorry, but there were rather a few warnings from the initial partition table there |
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| 10:28.40 | cloud69 | In Debian how would I go about 1. redirect incoming connections from exampleapp.com:3000 to TLS port 443, 2. redirect incoming connections from exampleapp.com:80 to TLS port 443, 3. Set up a Let's Encrypt TLS certificate/ACME client? |
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| 10:28.55 | cloud69 | I know this is irrelevant but here's how I'd do all that on OpenBSD: https://gist.github.com/anon987654321/3de6941bc557790adaa5d2e65d6c63e3#relaydconf |
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| 10:29.13 | ratrace | cloud69: "FROM" or "TO"? |
| 10:29.33 | ratrace | connections "FROM" mean the src ip and port are the ones you listed (resolving exampleapp.com into an IP) |
| 10:29.40 | cloud69 | my bad i mixed them up |
| 10:30.17 | ratrace | so, you want TO? I'm connecting to exampleapp.com, port 80, and you want that connection redirected to port 443? |
| 10:30.25 | cloud69 | it would grep the hostname from the incoming connection and forward it to the 3000 port the app runs on |
| 10:30.33 | cloud69 | yep, to |
| 10:30.38 | cloud69 | indeed |
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| 10:31.28 | ratrace | ideally that's done at the webserver level, with a 301 or 302 |
| 10:31.31 | cloud69 | actually forget port 80 for now, 443 only (the app itself has a builtin mechanism to force ssl on its own) |
| 10:31.44 | cloud69 | ratrace: yup but using which software ideally? |
| 10:31.54 | ratrace | what is the web server? apache? nginx? something else? |
| 10:32.13 | cloud69 | i can do all this with nginx, no need for some relay thingie in front? |
| 10:32.15 | nkuttler | cloud69: i do such stuff in nginx |
| 10:32.38 | ratrace | cloud69: yes, you can have a server {} stanza for port 80 with a return 301 https://yourdomain.com$uri ; |
| 10:32.42 | jhutchins | cloud69: you might look at letsencrypt.com |
| 10:32.46 | cloud69 | nkuttler: cool, nginx it is, thanks! |
| 10:32.56 | ratrace | for lestencrypt I recommend Dehydrated |
| 10:33.01 | ratrace | ,i dehydrated |
| 10:33.02 | judd | Package dehydrated (misc, optional) in buster/amd64: ACME client implemented in Bash. Version: 0.6.2-2+deb10u1; Size: 79.0k; Installed: 178k; Homepage: https://dehydrated.io |
| 10:33.17 | cloud69 | thanks ratrace |
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| 10:35.59 | cloud69 | for what it's worth here's how it's done on openbsd: https://gist.github.com/anon987654321/3de6941bc557790adaa5d2e65d6c63e3#acme-clientconf -- everything is built into the OS. for instance, the "httpd" y'all see there is a rewrite of nginx after it became obvious it's way too complex and has a lot of security issues |
| 10:36.16 | cloud69 | https://www.openbsd.org/papers/httpd-asiabsdcon2015.pdf |
| 10:37.15 | ratrace | cloud69: this is #debian, so it's irrelevant how OpenBSD does with their NIH toys |
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| 10:37.31 | cloud69 | true that, my apologies |
| 10:38.26 | powabanga_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:41.07 | ratrace | also, don't be disilusioned about "security" of their toys. Each and every toy replacement for a service they disliked (sudo/doas, opensmtpd, openhttpd, libressl) has had CVEs of its own. |
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| 10:54.33 | HelloShitty | Hello. I'm trying to install Debian in UEFI mode but my ssd is not being detected. After install and reboot, I'm taken right to bios menu again. |
| 10:55.25 | HelloShitty | Anyone can help me to figure out what is it that is wrong? |
| 10:55.52 | HelloShitty | I can access a shell and I can see the device files but I can't mount them |
| 10:56.43 | HelloShitty | I created a folder in /media and I'm trying to mount the devices inside the folder I created but mount complains about invalid argument |
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| 10:57.41 | HelloShitty | What I'm trying to do is: |
| 10:57.42 | HelloShitty | mkdir /media/rescue |
| 10:57.42 | HelloShitty | mount /dev/sda2 /media/rescue |
| 10:57.59 | HelloShitty | But mount says 'invalid argument' |
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| 11:03.35 | mambang | nice nick HelloShitty |
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| 11:07.07 | HelloShitty | mambang, yeah. Can you help me? |
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| 11:13.17 | ratrace | HelloShitty: it's not clear what you're doing exactly. you say you're taken to bios menu, but then you say you're mounting from a linux env... can you be more specific please? |
| 11:14.05 | HelloShitty | ratrace, sure |
| 11:14.08 | EdePopede | i just provoked a couple of error messages, this one didn't show up |
| 11:14.37 | HelloShitty | So, after I install Debian in UEFI mode, I remove the installation media and reboot |
| 11:14.58 | HelloShitty | The reboot can't see my ssd and goes straight to the bios menu |
| 11:16.02 | HelloShitty | So, I reboot again with the installation media plugged in and I get the install menu again. Here I just launch a terminal session with alt+f2 and I was trying to check for mounted partitions, etc |
| 11:16.06 | jelly | do you see debian entry in uefi boot menu, if you explicitely go to that menu? |
| 11:16.30 | HelloShitty | jelly, no. The only entrance I see is my installation media |
| 11:16.44 | jelly | huh |
| 11:17.03 | jelly | so that would mean d-i did not do all its work |
| 11:17.40 | HelloShitty | I guess. But everything works if I install using normal mode, I mean, if I turn off UEFI |
| 11:17.41 | EdePopede | HelloShitty: do you have a boot menu? i learned to appreciate it, especially since one of them even lets me enter the bios. |
| 11:18.48 | HelloShitty | Moreover, when I install with UEFI off, I get a prompt, during the installation, asking me where to install the grub menu. I don't get that same prompt when I install with UEFI mode on |
| 11:19.16 | HelloShitty | EdePepede, boot menu when? Inside my bios? |
| 11:19.24 | HelloShitty | Or while rebooting? |
| 11:20.20 | HelloShitty | I could show some pictures here but seems that there is some religion here of not opening image links at all |
| 11:21.06 | ratrace | HelloShitty: with EFI there's no choice of where you install, because it's always the ESP. with legacy bios, you can choose where to put the first stage grub loader |
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| 11:21.46 | HelloShitty | ratrace ok... So it's normal not asking |
| 11:22.05 | HelloShitty | I didn't know that. Actually, it's the first time I'm trying to use UEFI |
| 11:22.50 | ratrace | yes as there is no grub first stage loader. it's the ESP that the firmware is looking for. anyhoo ... first thing, check in your bios that you don't have some fakeraid or emulations or anything like that about the ssd |
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| 11:23.33 | HelloShitty | In my bios menu, I have Secure Boot off, by default and I'm using AHCI |
| 11:23.44 | ratrace | second, reboot into installation media, and run a blkdiscard for your ssd. that will wipe it out a trim-like way. then try to manually create some partitions, reboot and see if they're still there. |
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| 11:24.20 | HelloShitty | I can also show my bios options in images if you want to |
| 11:24.28 | Aurora_v_kosmose | In my journal there's a reboot entry (which failed as my machine was off) with no visible cause for the reboot to have occured. |
| 11:24.45 | Aurora_v_kosmose | s/was off/remained off, so only partly rebooted/ |
| 11:24.46 | ratrace | HelloShitty: sure, why not |
| 11:27.31 | HelloShitty | ratrace, gimme a second. I'm having some trouble getting the direct links of the images from imgbb on my phone |
| 11:28.14 | HelloShitty | By phone I'm almost forced to share only the shortened versions of the linos |
| 11:29.26 | Aurora_v_kosmose | Hmm... forums seem to say this could indicate pending hardware failure. |
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| 11:29.35 | Aurora_v_kosmose | That'd be... inconvenient. |
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| 11:34.50 | HelloShitty | ratrace this is the menu in normal mode, i.e. UEFI off |
| 11:34.51 | HelloShitty | https://i.ibb.co/cYRFTzW/20201130-205006.jpg |
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| 11:36.36 | HelloShitty | ratrace this is the menu where I can put UEFI mode on |
| 11:36.38 | HelloShitty | https://i.ibb.co/GRY9Tys/20201130-205410.jpg |
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| 11:38.30 | HelloShitty | ratrace this is my menu after rebooting with installation media plugged in |
| 11:38.31 | HelloShitty | https://i.ibb.co/0Bbz1Vh/20201130-205426.jpg |
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| 11:43.28 | Aurora_v_kosmose | Guess I'll be back after running a full ram test. |
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| 11:44.12 | ratrace | HelloShitty: what's that OS select thing.... does it enumerate stubs on the ESP or does it have a predetermined list of supported OS or something? |
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| 11:45.46 | HelloShitty | That's the only place I can set UEFI |
| 11:45.57 | HelloShitty | I can't find any ESP related menus |
| 11:47.12 | HelloShitty | And I can only see Windows8 option in OS select that can show me UEFI option to enabke |
| 11:47.28 | HelloShitty | That OS select has only 2 options |
| 11:47.39 | HelloShitty | Windows 8 or Others |
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| 11:47.55 | HelloShitty | But in Others option, I don't have any UEFI options |
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| 11:49.36 | HelloShitty | So I assume that when I choose "Others", uefi mode is disabled |
| 11:50.23 | HelloShitty | And when I chose Windows8, I get a sub menu which says "UEFI" and that I can enable |
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| 11:52.35 | ratrace | HelloShitty: yes but it also says it's gonna do secureboot with Windows8 so that's not gonna work, I think |
| 11:52.55 | ratrace | maybe you should just do a legacy boot installation. do you really need EFI? |
| 11:53.36 | HelloShitty | Not that its critical but it's weird why can't I use uefi |
| 11:53.56 | HelloShitty | This is a bit old laptop but not too old. It's from 2012 |
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| 11:54.34 | HelloShitty | Do you think it just doesn't support UEFI other for Windows? |
| 11:56.40 | Haohmaru | ,v octave-openems |
| 11:56.41 | judd | Package: octave-openems on amd64 -- buster: 0.0.35+dfsg.1-3; bullseye: 0.0.35+git20190103.6a75e98+dfsg.1-2+b4; sid: 0.0.35+git20190103.6a75e98+dfsg.1-2+b4 |
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| 12:08.25 | ratrace | HelloShitty: it's not weird. some laptops are "locked into" windows only support, paid by Redmond to be so. |
| 12:10.28 | Haohmaru | a crapdows-only craptop |
| 12:11.39 | ratrace | usually are craptops, ye. |
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| 12:23.13 | HelloShitty | ratrace, looks to be the case here, no? |
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| 12:32.25 | ratrace | HelloShitty: that would be my guess |
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| 14:03.01 | HelloShitty | ratrace I'm getting that idea. However I didn't have any idea that things could be influenciated in such manner |
| 14:03.38 | HelloShitty | I'm asking in Clevo/Sage forums about if this BIOS is supposed to support Linux UEFI mode or not |
| 14:04.02 | HelloShitty | I mean, everything gets installed but then the boot doesn't work |
| 14:04.19 | HelloShitty | I entered a terminal while in UEFI mode |
| 14:04.34 | HelloShitty | And checked for blkid and mount output |
| 14:04.58 | HelloShitty | I'm not sure that could provide any hints about what might be missing |
| 14:05.16 | HelloShitty | If you want to have a look, I can paste here a picture of that output |
| 14:05.38 | HelloShitty | I was suggested to try to chroot into the system but I have no knowledge to do so |
| 14:05.39 | jhutchins | HelloShitty: The problem is that there are actually no official standards for the BIOS, nor for UEFI. Some manufacturers implement it very badly. |
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| 14:07.19 | HelloShitty | jhutchins yeah seems that also there are some other factors that might prevent brands to develop bios with support for Linux uefi |
| 14:07.34 | HelloShitty | I guess this was what ratrace mentioned |
| 14:08.48 | jhutchins | I have an HP under the couch that grub can't quite understand the UEFI on. |
| 14:09.25 | jhutchins | Olnly slightly less useless in unbootable mode than with the HP Windows install complete with "let us reset all your custom settings" feature. |
| 14:11.59 | HelloShitty | Yeah. I don't understand why it installs but for some reason, it is not bootable nor detectable inside bios menu. It can only see the installation media |
| 14:12.09 | HelloShitty | Which is a USB pen stick |
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| 14:13.42 | jhutchins | HelloShitty: That's strange. The "boot" flag is only supposed to be used by DOS. |
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| 14:15.46 | jhutchins | I don't know what else would cause ... wait, BIOS or UEFI? |
| 14:16.11 | HelloShitty | jhutchins, even wording is sensitive |
| 14:16.36 | HelloShitty | When you press F2 or DEL or F10 or whatever at boot time |
| 14:16.41 | HelloShitty | You get into a menu |
| 14:16.45 | HelloShitty | How you call it? |
| 14:16.54 | HelloShitty | I use to call it the Bios menu |
| 14:17.23 | jelly | HelloShitty: can you put a bootable windows on it, then see what it put on the efiboot partition? |
| 14:17.25 | jhutchins | Well, it's a boot menu, and it should give you the option of UEFI if it's available, or the linux partition. |
| 14:17.55 | HelloShitty | I have a UEFI enable option |
| 14:18.41 | HelloShitty | But it is under a parent menu which needs to be set to Windows8 so that that child option of UEFI to be visible |
| 14:19.30 | HelloShitty | I mean, I have a Boot menu. Inside this Boot menu, I have an option called 'OS select' |
| 14:19.53 | jhutchins | Between UEFI and systemd I'm thinking of re-istalling DOS 3.5 |
| 14:20.09 | HelloShitty | Or better, it's a sub menu called 'OS select' |
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| 14:20.30 | HelloShitty | This sub menu has two options: Others and Windows8 |
| 14:21.01 | HelloShitty | And the only option that allows me to enable UEFI is the 'Windows8' option |
| 14:21.53 | HelloShitty | The option 'Others' hides the UEFI sub menu. And if I install Debian with this mode, all goes good |
| 14:22.58 | HelloShitty | If I set 'OS select' menu to the option 'Windows8' e get this sub menu UEFI visible that I can set to Enable |
| 14:23.14 | jhutchins | Well, if you have an "all goes good" option, go with that and get on with life. |
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| 14:23.57 | HelloShitty | Yeah, that's what I already did, but I wanted to understand if my laptop really doesn't support UEFI for Linux or if it's something else |
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| 15:02.42 | jhutchins | HelloShitty: General lack of adequate standards. |
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| 15:06.38 | genr8_ | i bet i could get it to work |
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| 15:14.43 | HelloShitty | genr8_ you were answering to me and my problem? |
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| 16:29.32 | incal | hello guys, is there a program that can alter the sound of the voice (a voice recording, say an .mp4 file), for example make my male voice sound female? TIA |
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| 16:31.55 | n4dir | incal: audacity has "change pitch" and some other effects. |
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| 16:32.58 | incal | OK, you know what other exactly? I mean what others would be relevant, you think? |
| 16:33.35 | n4dir | puh. There are lots of vst-plugins. You have to load them, say from a DigitalAudioWorkstation or Carla or such. |
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| 16:34.01 | n4dir | you could ask in #opensourcemusicians or #lau (you could also ask in ardour, if such can be accomplished with it) |
| 16:34.24 | n4dir | more clear: i don't really know much more, at least not in detail |
| 16:34.33 | incal | OK, thanks, no, that's good :) |
| 16:34.40 | n4dir | good luck :-) |
| 16:34.47 | incal | :) |
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| 16:36.24 | n4dir | incal: perhaps mhwaveedit, but i for one couldn't make much sense of it |
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| 16:37.58 | jhutchins | Probably just as easy to synthesize it with something like festival. |
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| 16:43.02 | n4dir | to me audacity would be the most easy approach. But i am not what you call talented. I always go for the most easy solution. Didn't hear of festival. |
| 16:43.23 | n4dir | looks good, from apt-cache |
| 16:44.02 | hooway | just installed debian xfce from usb without internet, but cant seem to find option to connect to wifi |
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| 17:00.06 | absinthe | perhaps you need to configure the stuff handling the network (network-manager ?) to point it to the correct interface |
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| 17:03.36 | hooway | well i have advanced network configuration installed, but i dont know how to add wifi |
| 17:04.29 | hooway | when i open it, it shows me blank options, only option to add connection type, i chose wifi, but dont know how to use it after |
| 17:04.36 | absinthe | can't you like, right clic on it / preferences oslt |
| 17:04.53 | hooway | right click on what? |
| 17:05.07 | absinthe | dunno, some icon. /o\ |
| 17:05.30 | absinthe | sorry, not XFCE user here, i was trying to pertend being smart, but failed. |
| 17:06.06 | jhutchins | hooway: You need the network manager applet. |
| 17:07.48 | hooway | i have it in panel, but when lclicked shows me no network devices available and vpn connections, when i rclick shows me checkbox enable networking, cbox enable notif |
| 17:07.58 | hooway | and edit connection option |
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| 17:09.19 | hooway | clicking on it brings up advanced network config tool |
| 17:09.25 | hooway | but dont know how to use it |
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| 17:16.53 | strk | do you know why `lsb_release -a` would report `Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.13 (stretch)` but `Release: 8` |
| 17:17.16 | strk | Codename is also set to `stretch`, so `Release` seems to be the only one with a different view |
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| 17:20.55 | JordiGH | Is GNU/kFreeBSD dead? Could I install it today if I wanted to? |
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| 17:21.07 | Rob_Jones | is there a way on debian to limit sftp file types to specific extensions? |
| 17:22.07 | jhutchins | hooway: what hardware do you have? |
| 17:22.51 | tgunr | How do I find out which hard drive was used to boot debian? My system has been up so long I have forgotten which drive I used to boot and I want to replace it. |
| 17:24.53 | hooway | well im using asus laptop |
| 17:25.05 | hooway | it does not have ethernet port sadly |
| 17:25.10 | BCMM | tgunr: do you have multiple hard drives that it is possible to boot from? or can this be done by just looking at where the bootloader is installed? |
| 17:25.47 | tgunr | Have 12 HDD in this system, boot drive was a mirrored ZFS pool |
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| 17:26.11 | Razin | Hi |
| 17:26.48 | tgunr | I think I figured it out |
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| 17:28.51 | jhutchins | hooway: lspci -nn |
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| 17:30.11 | jhutchins | hooway: My guess is that your chipset requires non-free firmware. You might be able to see it looking for the firmware in dmesg | less |
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| 17:31.57 | tgunr | This HDD has about 40000 hours and starting to go bad |
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| 17:34.12 | hooway | jhutchins: gives me few red text about firmare: failed to load/open |
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| 17:34.37 | hooway | jhutchins: is there a way to change so it detects non-free firmware? |
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| 17:49.20 | H-var | does anyone know where are the audio settings in xfce? |
| 17:50.54 | alex11 | probably pavucontrol, H-var |
| 17:52.54 | jhutchins | hooway: You have to install firmware-nonfree |
| 17:53.03 | jhutchins | ,v firmware-nonfree |
| 17:53.04 | judd | No package named 'firmware-nonfree' was found in amd64. |
| 17:53.10 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 17:53.11 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 17:53.57 | jhutchins | hooway: That's what I suspected, but we still need ti know which chipset you have. |
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| 17:58.08 | hooway | jhutchins: how do i check chipset? |
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| 18:15.57 | H-var | thanks, guys! |
| 18:17.13 | jhutchins | THat's what lspci -nn is for (as root or with sudo). |
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| 18:22.42 | hooway | jhutchins: intel corporations wireless 7260, this one? |
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| 18:23.32 | jhutchins | hooway: What's the pciid? (eight character code)? |
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| 18:24.25 | sney | that'll be firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:25.18 | hooway | jhutchins: 8086:08b1 |
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| 18:26.52 | jhutchins | !pciid 8086-08b1 |
| 18:27.01 | jhutchins | ,pciid 8086-08b1 |
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| 18:27.30 | jhutchins | ,pciid 8086:08b1 |
| 18:27.31 | judd | [8086:08b1] is 'Wireless 7260' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:08b1 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 18:28.14 | jhutchins | sney: Ah, thanks. |
| 18:28.26 | jhutchins | Install the package sney mentioned. |
| 18:28.44 | jhutchins | ,v firware-iwlwifi |
| 18:28.45 | judd | No package named 'firware-iwlwifi' was found in amd64. |
| 18:28.53 | jhutchins | ,v firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:28.54 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 -- jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20190114-2; buster-backports/non-free: 20200918-1~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free: 20200918-1; sid/non-free: 20200918-1 |
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| 18:30.22 | hooway | but how do i without internet connection? |
| 18:30.27 | hooway | jhutchins |
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| 18:31.05 | sney | the firmware package is small and has no dependencies, you can download it to a usb stick from packages.debian.org and install locally |
| 18:31.21 | hooway | oh ok, will try this |
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| 18:36.49 | hooway | sney: how do i run it, its .deb package? |
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| 18:37.03 | greycat | use dpkg -i to install a .deb |
| 18:37.18 | greycat | or, "apt install ./yourfile.deb" if you suspect it might have dependencies |
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| 18:39.45 | hooway | sney: how do i check if its working? |
| 18:40.02 | sney | reboot, see if wifi comes up |
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| 18:41.29 | hooway | sney: thanks, wifi works now |
| 18:41.36 | sney | np |
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| 18:50.01 | jhutchins | Yay! |
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| 18:55.30 | H-var | sometimes I think that sney is an artificial intelligence bot made by some other guy :D |
| 18:56.10 | greycat | if you've ever talked to Amazon's Alexa, you'll know AI bots are still really dumb |
| 18:56.27 | H-var | cuz he always has a reply to everything :D and replies in a similar way google assistant would reply haha |
| 18:56.59 | H-var | google's AI assistant is actually very interesting, greycat |
| 18:57.07 | greycat | to be fair, "to make your wifi work, you need to install this firmware package, and reboot" is a top FAQ here |
| 18:57.13 | H-var | these Indians are way out there |
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| 19:14.07 | H-var | I have an external DSD audio decoder that supports up to a few megahertz output, and then I tried playing a 192khz audio, but it reproduces the audio in 48KHz |
| 19:14.40 | H-var | I used clementine, and selected "automatic" in the sample rate section |
| 19:15.03 | H-var | does anyone know how to make the external dsd actually work properly in linux? |
| 19:16.18 | H-var | I selected 192KHz sample rate output in clementine, but the device is still outputting at 48KHz |
| 19:18.19 | H-var | the audio is flac at 192KHz |
| 19:21.09 | MikeDebian | hey guys, libreoffice icons are not showing up on the working list bottom bar on Debian 10 with gnome. it shows a blank doc icon. the same happens when visualizing libreoffice docs in a folder, it shows no libreoffice icons, just an unbranded doc item |
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| 19:24.51 | H-var | are there any DAC drivers that I can get hold of in order to make things work? |
| 19:25.16 | SerajewelKS | H-var: first thing i'd check is whether alsa reports that the device can run at 192k |
| 19:26.34 | H-var | yes, I run 8MHz audio files on windows with it |
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| 19:30.40 | jmcnaught | H-var: you probably have to configure PulseAudio to work at that sample rate |
| 19:30.40 | jhutchins | H-var: I don't think alsa cares what windows thinks. |
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| 19:35.50 | H-var | I don't really need that high of a sample rate, I just wanna be able to play the 192KHz and 96KHz audio sample, since those are the ones which are used primarily everywhere in the industry anyway |
| 19:36.06 | H-var | thank you, let me see what alsa says |
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| 19:38.56 | jhutchins | H-var: You also might try a different player. |
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| 19:45.39 | H-var | jmcnaught I opened alsamixer, but there's no option to see what can device support |
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| 19:50.23 | wisbit | hey there |
| 19:50.28 | wisbit | hope you're all well |
| 19:51.30 | wisbit | apache2 question : I have 2 VH, both ssl, one on 443 and one on 4445, ports are configured in ports.conf, the VH conf file for the sites are virtually the same, except for directories and ports |
| 19:51.47 | wisbit | netstat -tunlp shows that the ports are listening |
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| 19:52.34 | wisbit | however, ip:4445 in a browser returns connection time out, while the others are fine |
| 19:53.10 | SerajewelKS | wisbit: almost certainly being blocked by a firewall, either on-host or between the browser and the server |
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| 19:54.03 | wisbit | crap, the last thing I haven't checked, I recently changed the 445 port to 4445 and I might have forgotten to adapt the firewall |
| 19:54.52 | wisbit | yup, that was it |
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| 19:55.21 | wisbit | thank a lot SerajewelKS !! |
| 19:55.47 | wisbit | I post that some IRC users chose complicated nick just so that others have troubled typing it when replying :D |
| 19:55.53 | SerajewelKS | np |
| 19:55.53 | wisbit | posit |
| 19:56.02 | sney | wisbit: tab complete |
| 19:56.05 | SerajewelKS | wisbit: most IRC clients will tab-complete nicks |
| 19:56.47 | wisbit | ok, I guess it's time for a nap ... I ma not functionning well |
| 19:57.03 | wisbit | and thanks for that SerajewelKS |
| 19:57.10 | SerajewelKS | np |
| 19:58.28 | jhutchins | H-var: aplay -l ; aplay -L ; pactl list |
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| 20:06.01 | H-var | thank you, jhutchins so much, but unfortunately those commands didn't show any information about the supported sample rates |
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| 20:17.24 | jhutchins | Hm. |
| 20:17.43 | jhutchins | To the googles then. Try your hardware + alsa, or linux, or pulseaudio. |
| 20:18.29 | jhutchins | I'm afraid it's been a long time since I had to troubleshoot audio - like pre-pulseaudio. |
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| 20:23.21 | n4dir | H-var: i can't really understand the output of that script, | grep rate gives result, but i don't think all supported are shown. https://community.ardour.org/files/adevices.sh |
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| 20:38.03 | b1ack0p | hi |
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| 20:55.17 | khobo | hey guys following a debian install guide |
| 20:55.19 | khobo | https://imgur.com/a/UpLmMtN |
| 20:55.26 | khobo | getting an error on the systemctl restart networking command |
| 20:55.32 | khobo | hoping i could find someone to runt hrough my settings with me? |
| 20:55.45 | sney | !what |
| 20:55.46 | dpkg | What package are you having trouble with? What did you do? What happened? What did you expect to happen? |
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| 20:57.14 | sney | khobo: just describe your problem and if anyone has an answer they will help. |
| 20:58.48 | jaggz | where's my "shutdown without doing automatic updates and .. don't really wait for processes to finish for so long plz" command? |
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| 20:59.07 | jaggz | like, on power failure on ups |
| 20:59.10 | khobo | oh wild.. it actually worked |
| 20:59.11 | khobo | interesting |
| 20:59.18 | khobo | i think maybe i needed to do a full reboot for some reason |
| 20:59.23 | khobo | i've just created a fresh install |
| 21:01.11 | jmcnaught | jaggz: read what "man poweroff" has to say about --force |
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| 21:01.53 | jaggz | jmcnaught, that's bad.. I need something balanced :) |
| 21:02.28 | sney | if it's for a power failure condition, the acpi shutdown you get by pushing the power button once is probably what you want |
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| 21:10.09 | neorpheus | Good afternoon all. I am having trouble trying to kill a process in debian 10. I have tried issuing "kill 9 1892", "kill -9 1892", "kill 15 1892", and "kill -15 1892". all four attempts have also been mirrored using sudo as well. in the case of kill signals 9 and 15 i get no error returned but the pid 1892 still shows in top. in the case of kill |
| 21:10.10 | neorpheus | signals -9 and -15 i get an error for invalid value. i am unsure what to do at this point beyond just rebooting the machine which i would like to avoid as there are currently about 20 active teamspeak users and another 15 or so minecraft users logged in |
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| 21:10.54 | sney | if kill -9 didn't kill it, then the process is likely not the issue. what is it? timed out network mount or something? |
| 21:11.13 | greycat | Good thing there couldn't possibly be an important process with PID 9 or 15, right. |
| 21:11.53 | greycat | Hey, let's just type random kill commands that we don't understand on a machine with three dozen users. |
| 21:12.04 | unixbsd | hello, I try to run debian i686 on a machine Ryzen 3 AMD. Does it work? |
| 21:12.12 | greycat | You tell us. Did it work? |
| 21:12.15 | unixbsd | it seems not |
| 21:12.40 | unixbsd | dbus and few errors, however on my intel the clone image works fine. |
| 21:13.05 | neorpheus | @greycat, Hey lets just be an asshat to the clearly inexperienced sysadmin whos just trying to learn whats going on |
| 21:14.19 | neorpheus | @sney, it is a nano process run through sudo. accidentally made it disappear with CTRL+Z and couldnt find documentation to explain what i had done with that CTRL+Z so i figured just killing the task was the best bet |
| 21:14.39 | sney | run 'fg' to undo your ctrl-z |
| 21:15.02 | sney | if you fg to a process that was killed it'll usually exit at that point |
| 21:15.07 | greycat | Well, you screwed up at least three ways. You send a SIGTERM to processes 9 and 15 for no reason. You tried to send a SIGKILL to some processes without every telling us why. And you randomly decided to omit syntax from an already EXTREMELY unwise kill command, randomly. |
| 21:16.02 | sney | neorpheus: also, don't @ people on irc, most clients ignore that kind of highlight |
| 21:16.33 | greycat | ctrl-z is the default tty binding for "suspend", which invokes the shell's job control to put your current foreground job into a suspended state, and give you back a shell prompt. Use 'fg' to bring it back to the foreground. |
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| 21:20.57 | neorpheus | sorry, my regular irc client automatically prefixes @ to tab completed usernames so i thought it was standard practice.fg did the trick, As for my apparently malformed kill commands: man kill says the proper syntax for the command is "kill [options] <pid>". does that not mean that the proper usage is "kill [killsignal] <pid>"? |
| 21:21.13 | greycat | !kill -9 |
| 21:21.13 | dpkg | mangles -9 with a large lead pipe |
| 21:21.16 | greycat | ... |
| 21:21.18 | sney | lol |
| 21:21.24 | greycat | !kill-9 |
| 21:21.24 | dpkg | Do not use kill -9 unless you have to, because using it will keep the process from cleaning up temp files, closing sockets, informing its children about its death and other nasty things. use "kill -15 <PID>" or "kill -2 <PID>" instead. If you didn't write the code, you probably don't want to use kill -9. |
| 21:21.38 | greycat | OPTIONS start with a hypehn |
| 21:21.39 | sney | neorpheus: if you don't prefix the options with a -, kill will assume it is a pid |
| 21:22.07 | greycat | And using -9 is just BAD. |
| 21:22.08 | neorpheus | sney, so in effect i the system thought i was trying to kill both pid 9 and pid 1892? |
| 21:22.44 | sney | at least, it thought you were trying to kill pid 9. |
| 21:23.13 | greycat | they claim to have done "kill 9 1892" and "kill 15 1892", so that's three processes that were signalled at least |
| 21:23.27 | greycat | (unless some of those PIDs did not exist) |
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| 21:25.42 | koollman | should have learned from a old traditional song ... kill dash nine :) |
| 21:28.11 | neorpheus | gotcha, i appreciate the help |
| 21:29.11 | sney | and if you find yourself calling 'kill' directly and it doesn't immediately stop the problem process, you're barking up the wrong tree and need to go back to the drawing board. repeatedly spamming 'kill' is not something you do on a healthy system. |
| 21:30.10 | greycat | You start by stating what the problem is. If you feel the solution to this problem is "kill a process", then you run "ps" commands to see what the process's metadata is (state flags, amount of CPU used, etc.). |
| 21:30.39 | greycat | If the process is in state D for instance, there is no point trying to kill it. It's stuck in a kernel driver. |
| 21:32.02 | greycat | If the process is <defunct> or state Z then there is ALSO no point trying to kill it, because |
| 21:32.05 | greycat | !zombie |
| 21:32.05 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 21:32.38 | neorpheus | well i ran "ps aux | grep nano" to find the pid, but i have no idea how to interperet any of the other info that command provided. im going to have to research that more. im coming from a windows background and while i have used *nix in the past ive never run into this issue before and tried killing it the same way id been advised to kill tasks in |
| 21:32.38 | neorpheus | the past not realizing i was the problem between the seat and the keyboard |
| 21:32.56 | greycat | on, you were trying to kill your suspended nano. yeah. don't do that. |
| 21:33.07 | greycat | the signals you send won't be delivered until the process is un-suspended |
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| 21:34.42 | neorpheus | at this point trying to issue "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" nano returns a warning on start that the file is already being edited under pid 1892. is this just a lock left over from not cleanly killing nano the first time? and if so is it safe to proceed with editing the file anyways? |
| 21:35.10 | greycat | what does "ps -p 1892" say? |
| 21:35.40 | neorpheus | "PID TTY TIME CMD" |
| 21:35.58 | greycat | then it's a stale lock |
| 21:36.16 | greycat | (this is one of the side effects of a kill -9) |
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| 21:36.45 | neorpheus | because nano was forced to kill it didnt get to unlock the file in use. . . |
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| 21:38.17 | neorpheus | one other question while im here. what is the difference between the main and security repos? |
| 21:39.09 | neorpheus | my original intent with all of this was to comment out the cdrom source and enable the regular repos. but a guide i was looking at online suggested to instead add the security repo instead of the main |
| 21:39.25 | sney | security has security updates for the packages in each point release. |
| 21:39.46 | neorpheus | ahh so that probably is a wise decision the n |
| 21:39.47 | sney | if you're going to include buster-security in your sources.list, which you should, you should also include the main mirror as well |
| 21:40.17 | sney | not every package gets a security upload so -security doesn't have every package. |
| 21:41.19 | neorpheus | ok and apt will grab the newer of the available packages between the 2 mirrors? or do i have to instruct it in some way to "prefer" buster-security? |
| 21:41.37 | sney | apt will grab the newer version automatically |
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| 22:46.27 | sparky4 | hey guys i have an issue with debian 9 and i cannot upgrade |
| 22:46.51 | sparky4 | so the issue is the mouse laggs in 1 second ticks in SDL based games |
| 22:47.09 | sparky4 | especiallay after a bit of use after a fresh reboot |
| 22:47.17 | sparky4 | i honestly do no tknow what is causing this |
| 22:47.40 | sparky4 | it only works fully after a reboot |
| 22:48.05 | sparky4 | game saffected is Daikatana zandronum and Sauerbraten |
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| 22:51.19 | Brigo | sparky4, best advice i can think of, check logs. |
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| 22:52.57 | sparky4 | Brigo: which one specifically? |
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| 23:00.32 | Brigo | sparky4, i would start with syslog, if nothing there Xorg.0.log and then kernel.log |
| 23:02.49 | JordiGH | What's going on with virtualbox on stable? |
| 23:03.03 | greycat | !virtualbox |
| 23:03.03 | dpkg | Oracle VM VirtualBox is <virtualization> software. Not in buster and unlikely to be in any future debian stable releases due to #794466. Unofficial backports are available as well as 3rd party packages from Oracle, see https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox to install; we recommend <virt-manager> instead. http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:03.28 | JordiGH | !virt-manager |
| 23:03.28 | dpkg | Virtual Machine Manager (virt-manager) is a desktop user interface for managing the linux Kernel Virtual Machine (KVM) as well as Xen VMs and LXC, with very similar functionality to <virtualbox>. https://wiki.debian.org/KVM https://virt-manager.org/ #virt on irc.oftc.net. |
| 23:03.41 | JordiGH | Oh, can it use the same images? |
| 23:04.18 | sparky4 | zandronum is not laggy just daikatana and sauerbraten |
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| 23:06.00 | jhutchins | sparky4: There are a lot of performance monitoring tools to tell you what components which parts of a program are using too highly. Top, atop, sysstat, etc. |
| 23:06.22 | jhutchins | sparky4: You might also see something in dmesg |
| 23:06.47 | jmcnaught | JordiGH: https://libvirt.org/storage.html#StorageBackendDir lists the image formats that virt-manager can use. I do not know what VirtualBox uses. |
| 23:07.33 | jmcnaught | JordiGH: there's also virt-convert(1) in the virtinst package |
| 23:07.44 | jhutchins | sparky4: You should also probably check out the support channels for those games and see if there's some known issue. |
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| 23:07.51 | jhutchins | sparky4: Why can't you upgrade? |
| 23:07.58 | zerocool | i support kvm+qemu\libvirt over vbox |
| 23:08.05 | sparky4 | jhutchins: !! Nvidia 304 driver is required for my computer |
| 23:08.35 | jhutchins | sparky4: So install it. |
| 23:08.35 | JordiGH | Hm, so what's the quickest way to get a VM? |
| 23:08.47 | sparky4 | jhutchins: it is not in the newer versions except SID |
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| 23:09.52 | jhutchins | sparky4: So backport it or use the nvidia package. |
| 23:10.06 | zerocool | JordiGH: https://wiki.debian.org/KVM |
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| 23:10.33 | sparky4 | jhutchins: how do i backport it? and i dont know if it works and i dont want to risk breaking my main computer |
| 23:10.46 | sparky4 | i need a nother terrabyte HDD |
| 23:10.56 | JordiGH | zerocool: tl;dr :-((((( |
| 23:11.06 | zerocool | JordiGH: it's super easy bruh |
| 23:11.10 | zerocool | `apt-get install qemu-system libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager` |
| 23:11.20 | jmcnaught | That version of the NVIDIA driver might not be compatible with the version of Xorg in buster, I would check before upgrading |
| 23:11.35 | sparky4 | i tried. it's not |
| 23:11.55 | zerocool | sudo adduser JordiGH libvirt |
| 23:12.10 | zerocool | open virt-manager connect to localhost |
| 23:12.33 | zerocool | i think virt-manager's gui name is "Virtual Machine Manager" |
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| 23:17.02 | zerocool | JordiGH: you should make sure hardware virtualization is enabled in uefi/bios when you get a chance |
| 23:17.25 | JordiGH | Yeah, it's enabled. |
| 23:17.32 | JordiGH | idgi, where does the image come from? |
| 23:17.45 | JordiGH | What am I going to virtualise? |
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| 23:17.48 | zerocool | JordiGH: what "image" are you looking for? |
| 23:18.01 | zerocool | JordiGH: that's up to you, what do you want to virtualize. |
| 23:18.42 | JordiGH | Right, i want to download something to virtualise. |
| 23:18.59 | zerocool | Windows, Linux, MacOS? |
| 23:19.05 | JordiGH | Loonix. Ubuntu, I guess. |
| 23:19.15 | zerocool | So download Ubuntu ISO |
| 23:19.22 | sparky4 | sigh |
| 23:19.23 | JordiGH | I have to run the Ubuntu install? |
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| 23:19.43 | JordiGH | There aren't kvm images like with virtual box that I can just download with the installation already done? |
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| 23:19.48 | zerocool | you can run the live image if you please |
| 23:20.03 | JordiGH | Okay, so people don't just distribute images like they do with virtualbox. |
| 23:20.39 | koollman | JordiGH: some people do |
| 23:20.54 | zerocool | you can probably convert the vbox images to kvm. iirc the images you're talking about are literally zips that contain configs and disks |
| 23:21.29 | jmcnaught | https://cloud.debian.org/images/cloud/ some of these might work in virt-manager, but I just install using the netinst ISO to get a Debian VM |
| 23:22.31 | zerocool | kvm+qemu\libvirt is basically what the cloud runs on so im sure there are images but you're not going to find plan9-with-squirrel-wallpaperOS |
| 23:22.44 | JordiGH | http://paste.debian.net/1175170/ |
| 23:22.46 | JordiGH | ;_; |
| 23:22.51 | JordiGH | Do I need virtualbox anyway? |
| 23:23.36 | jmcnaught | ,i vagrant-libvirt |
| 23:23.38 | judd | Package vagrant-libvirt (ruby, optional) in buster/amd64: Vagrant plugin that adds an Libvirt provider to Vagrant. Version: 0.0.45-2; Size: 65.8k; Installed: 286k; Homepage: https://github.com/vagrant-libvirt/vagrant-libvirt |
| 23:23.47 | zerocool | lol |
| 23:23.49 | JordiGH | lol |
| 23:23.56 | zerocool | JordiGH: is today your first day |
| 23:24.03 | JordiGH | Oh, maybe this one. https://app.vagrantup.com/yk0/boxes/ubuntu-xenial |
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| 23:24.28 | JordiGH | zerocool: Every hour is amateur hour. |
| 23:24.43 | zerocool | haha, nice. |
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| 23:28.00 | zerocool | eh, it's a good place to be. |
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| 23:55.29 | JordiGH | Hm, there's no way to talk to a VM if I do `iptables -P INPUT DROP`, is there? |
| 23:55.34 | JordiGH | Inside the VM, of course. |
| 23:55.43 | JordiGH | That's kind of funny. |
| 23:56.22 | sney | some hypervisors have a serial console or vnc built in, in case you break direct network access |
| 23:57.53 | *** join/#debian dethos (~dethos@95.172.177.165) |
