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| 00:26.08 | Strife89 | What's a basic task I can do in a CLI to informally compare multiple devices' CPU speed? |
| 00:26.44 | Strife89 | Ideally, one that supports using all available cores. |
| 00:26.59 | ndegruchy | compression timing? |
| 00:27.21 | ndegruchy | though, some don't support muti-cpus |
| 00:27.32 | Strife89 | (I've been doing audio re-encoding with a large audio file (FLAC->Vorbis), but I realized that that's probably a single-core task.) |
| 00:28.26 | Strife89 | ndegruchy: You mean something like .zip compression? |
| 00:29.01 | ndegruchy | Yeah, gzip (via pigz), bzip, zip, brotli, etc |
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| 00:32.38 | Strife89 | Good idea, thanks. |
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| 00:38.09 | wrycode | Anyone know how to make dbus and systemd --user work on a headless server? |
| 00:39.38 | wrycode | on fresh debian 10 cloud, systemctl --user prints "Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory" |
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| 00:42.56 | wrycode | I installed dbus-user-session and tried several ways to start dbus. I'll keep digging through docs + google but I'm surprised this doesn't work by default |
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| 00:44.50 | somiaj | Strife89: cat /proc/cpuinfo (there is a bogomips number that can be used for whatever that is worth) |
| 00:45.35 | somiaj | though sounds like you might want a more detailed comparision, that is a quick (but madeup number) that rates cpu power |
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| 00:46.55 | somiaj | grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo spits out the number for all cores |
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| 01:03.00 | sponix | ,v rtorrent |
| 01:03.02 | judd | Package: rtorrent on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.2-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2+b1; buster: 0.9.7-1; bullseye: 0.9.8-1; sid: 0.9.8-1 |
| 01:05.07 | somiaj | sponix: you can /msg judd v rtorrent if that info is just for you |
| 01:05.59 | sponix | somiaj: I keep forgetting. I was trying to /msg dpkg instead :P |
| 01:06.10 | sponix | didn't work out so well |
| 01:06.22 | somiaj | most likely got some snarky response from dpkg |
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| 03:02.56 | brachamh | !pastebin |
| 03:02.56 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>. |
| 03:03.18 | brachamh | !pastebinit |
| 03:03.18 | dpkg | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg 2>&1 | pastebinit". For a list of pastebin sites do "pastebinit -l". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 07:43.51 | nlpqda | such a shame to be tones of times asking about a fix for jumping touchpad bug yet no one knows and/or tells about xserver-xorg-input-libinput .. I decided to write it here maybe someone will ask in future |
| 07:44.54 | nlpqda | it is the only thing which fixed alps synaptics touchpad issue for my laptop |
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| 08:55.55 | graytron | i updated debian buster packages to latest release and grub fails to install, i got error message: GRUB failed to install to the following devices: /dev/sda ; Do you want to continue anyway? If you do, your computer may not start up properly. Writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue? Yes/No, is there a solution to this? |
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| 09:12.08 | frostschutz | graytron, what does your sda look like? ( 'parted /dev/sda unit s print free' or similar ) |
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| 09:18.47 | graytron | frostschutz: 1 2048s 1953791s 1951744s fat32 efi boot, esp - 2 1953792s 99610623s 97656832s ext4 debian9 - 3 99610624s 1714417663s 1614807040s ext4 home |
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| 09:20.34 | graytron | frostschutz: i just noticed that i have /dev/nvme0n1p3 set up as the root partition and there is no boot. i managed to install grub on that |
| 09:21.10 | graytron | frostschutz: /dev/sda was the old system disk with debian 9 and /home partition there |
| 09:24.12 | floogy | Hi, I got an issue with sshd with lagging connection, because I forgot about email alerts in hosts.allow. Because I forgot this, I tried all tips I found on the internet on login delay. Finally I solved the 30 second delauy due to the script in hosts.allow (I commented it out and replaced it with sshd:ALL), but now TCP-Wrapper(?) only allow one connection at a time. When first connect with ssh (cygwin) it instantly c |
| 09:24.12 | floogy | onnects to the virtual box debian buster, but a second try to connect with another app (filezilla, winSCP) is refused. But I didn't see any representation in the logs, nor in dmesg :(. Before I tried all solutions I found on the net, ther was the dreaded 30 second delay (by email alerts in hosts.allow), but I was able to connect multiple times at once. |
| 09:24.59 | floogy | Unfortunately I don't have backups of the configs before I altered them. |
| 09:27.37 | graytron | frostschutz: something changed between debian 10.4 and debian 10.5 to cause grub to fail, because i only upgraded packages from debian 10.4 to 10.5, and there were no other changes |
| 09:28.11 | floogy | Something I'm missing. I tried to unset all the delay-settings I changed. (history| grep 'vi '). I may overlooked a change, e.g. in /etc/nsswitch or on another place?. |
| 09:28.57 | floogy | Maybe someone KNOWS how to limit the sshd connection to only one connection? |
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| 09:29.18 | frostschutz | graytron, for sda/efi you could have tried something like this https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall but if sda is the wrong disk then I'm not sure, sorry |
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| 10:07.57 | mebus | MariaDB on Debian refuses to start after an upgrade. |
| 10:08.01 | mebus | can somebody help? |
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| 10:08.28 | shtrb | With what error ? |
| 10:08.32 | mebus | https://termbin.com/noaw |
| 10:09.15 | mebus | and https://termbin.com/9d7m |
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| 10:12.00 | mebus | shtrb: any ideas? |
| 10:12.12 | graytron | frostschutz: installing grub to current system disk worked, so that solved the issue. thanks though. it was your question that made me realize the solution |
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| 10:14.36 | holyws | hey, i am trying to set a few specific locales via dpkg-reconfigure locales. however, there are so many locales in the menu that pops up, im having trouble scrolling through it to grab the specific ones i need, is there a way i can filter them or set them manually..? |
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| 10:38.11 | aaro | locale -a | grep <your_locale> |
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| 11:19.04 | Filystyn | hi was some time I was here |
| 11:19.16 | Filystyn | People still use this system ? |
| 11:19.29 | shtrb | yes |
| 11:19.39 | Filystyn | nice |
| 11:19.55 | Filystyn | would you recommand it for me - I am compelte beginer |
| 11:20.05 | abrotman | recommend what? |
| 11:20.10 | Filystyn | debian ofc |
| 11:20.12 | Filystyn | what else |
| 11:20.41 | abrotman | do you mean stable? what is the use case? what are you looking for? |
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| 11:22.22 | Filystyn | I am looking for operating system that will have working internet browser and possibly program to write a document |
| 11:22.33 | Filystyn | somethign like word and excel + internet explorer |
| 11:24.40 | Filystyn | Can debian provide this ? |
| 11:24.58 | diogenes_ | Filystyn, yes |
| 11:25.05 | JPT | Sure, debian can provide this. However - with debian stable, you will not get the "most up to date" software, hence the "stable" :) |
| 11:25.20 | diogenes_ | Debian is universal. |
| 11:25.36 | JPT | If you're curious, you can always try it within a virtual machine (using virtualbox or something) |
| 11:26.06 | diogenes_ | better a live usb. |
| 11:29.50 | JPT | Sure, live usb is also a great option. I kind of forgot about that since i don't have an optical drive and the term "live cd" stuck with me :D |
| 11:34.24 | Filystyn | So I can have IE on debian, nice |
| 11:35.12 | JPT | Well perhaps not IE, but an internet browser such as firefox or chromium will work fine. |
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| 11:37.01 | JPT | (There may be technical ways to get IE running, but those should be considered experimental and will take a lot of work to keep stable.) |
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| 11:37.32 | shtrb | diogenes_, the live usbs are not so fun anymore , but installing on a usb is much more fun |
| 11:37.48 | shtrb | Filystyn, IE is dead for a while , use FF |
| 11:40.26 | floogy | I put "MaxSessions=10" into my /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restarted the sshd, but the issue persists, that I can only have one only session at a time to connect to the buster VirtualBox. |
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| 11:41.24 | JPT | floogy: Was that your only modification, or did you also limit the number of processes for your user? |
| 11:41.54 | floogy | Or maybe the issue got to do something with Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/sftp-server |
| 11:42.25 | floogy | Where to do that? Also in sshd_config? |
| 11:42.44 | JPT | What does the server log say when you try to establish a second session? |
| 11:43.18 | floogy | I can't login also a second time by ssh client on cygwin. |
| 11:44.31 | JPT | Well, what do the logs for your sshd say? |
| 11:45.19 | JPT | Given that your second connection actually hits sshd, everything related should be within that log |
| 11:45.20 | floogy | Nothing. I looked into /var/log, which log files did change on a second try, by using `ls -ltr /var/log` and monitored them by tail -f. Nothings reported, but I started sshd (defined in /etc/default/sshd) with -ddd |
| 11:45.56 | JPT | Alright. Did you install firewall rules that limit the number of connections? |
| 11:46.31 | Filystyn | What is FF? |
| 11:46.54 | JPT | Filystyn: In this case, FF refers to Firefox |
| 11:47.04 | floogy | But it worked, before I tested changes, to reduce login delays. they took 30 seconds. I figured out, that I forgot a script in hosts.allow, that send an alert by email, if someone attempts to login. That was the culrit for the delay. |
| 11:47.54 | floogy | But I changed some configs (e.g. nsswitch) with hints on the net, if the login is delayed, beforehand. |
| 11:48.29 | floogy | I rolled them back, but by my memory, because unfortunately I didn't backed them up before altering them. |
| 11:49.11 | floogy | JPT no, not during that session to find a solutuion for the delay. |
| 11:49.14 | JPT | Since most of your game happens in /etc, perhaps you want to check out etckeeper (which basically just uses git to keep track of changes in /etc, so rolling back and checking out changes is easier) |
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| 11:50.47 | floogy | I looked into history | grep 'vi ' to see which files I changed, abnd I think(!) that I rolled back ebvery change after I found the hosts.allow as the culprit, which now contains only sshd:ALL and a line break and some lines that are commented out ... |
| 11:51.16 | floogy | aybe I will delete the #comments in taht fiel and clean the hosts.allow? |
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| 11:51.49 | JPT | Unfortunately, i'm not very familiar with hosts.allow as i never had to touch it before. Removing comments should not change the behaviour unless there is something wrong |
| 11:51.50 | floogy | thank you for that hint. I didn't know on such a tool. |
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| 11:53.07 | abrotman | What is the error on the server when you can't connect? |
| 11:53.13 | floogy | I made a long pause of several years I didn't digging to deep into linux stuff ... |
| 11:54.22 | Regor | while installing neovim system had sudden reboot(power failure) ... it installed but it gave some errors " dpkg: error processing package libuv1:amd64 (--configure):package is in a very bad inconsistent state,**Errors were encountered while processing:libuv1:amd64 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 11:55.58 | floogy | Clien: https://bpa.st/UE2Q |
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| 11:56.56 | Filystyn | What about word do I have word on debian? |
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| 11:57.57 | floogy | SERVER: https://bpa.st/BEKA |
| 11:58.32 | Regor | https://paste.debian.net/1159737/ |
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| 11:59.50 | abrotman | Filystyn: Do you have Word on any Linux? |
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| 12:00.28 | floogy | log files and tail cmd: https://bpa.st/RGWA |
| 12:00.37 | Regor | how to fix this broken " libuv1" ? |
| 12:02.37 | JPT | Regor: Since it stated to attempt a reinstall, i would try 'apt install libuv1 --reinstall' next |
| 12:03.18 | Regor | ok i try it |
| 12:04.51 | floogy | JPT, abrotman I commented out the lines which reported the atempted accesses to /var/log/sshd.log instead of sending emails and parsing %s and %c for Email subject, body ansd so on. Because I thought, I'll better keep hosts.allow clean until I solved the issue. |
| 12:06.49 | Regor | JPT: thanks! ðï¸ |
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| 12:08.50 | JPT | Regor: I'm glad this was easily solvable. Otherwise, the next step would be eliminating scripts from that package and sort-of manually killing the package before installing it again. That might have been less pleasant. :) |
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| 12:09.43 | Filystyn | abrotman I duno. Never used linux before |
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| 13:03.39 | floogy | Hi, I was disconnected, due to the banned client xchat@win and hexchat@win ... |
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| 13:04.10 | floogy | Where can I find a backlog of #debian? |
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| 13:04.43 | mebus | is "ii libc6:amd64 2.30-8" the correct libc6 version for debian? |
| 13:08.05 | tomreyn | mebus: depends on the debian release you're referring to. |
| 13:08.14 | mebus | tomreyn: buster ? |
| 13:08.51 | tomreyn | $ rmadison -u debian -s buster libc6 |
| 13:08.51 | tomreyn | libc6 | 2.28-10 | stable | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x |
| 13:09.01 | tomreyn | so no |
| 13:10.09 | mebus | and tipps on how to downgrade? |
| 13:10.24 | tomreyn | reinstall |
| 13:10.43 | tomreyn | or install debian, since this is not a debian version |
| 13:11.37 | mebus | just libc? |
| 13:11.43 | Filystyn | how to install debian? |
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| 13:12.03 | tomreyn | floogy: see /topic ("chanlogs") |
| 13:12.35 | tomreyn | Filystyn: https://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 13:13.08 | Yruama_Lairba | hello, i'm like to know how to simulate repeated mouse click while a key is pressed, and stop immediatly when the key is depressed |
| 13:13.46 | tomreyn | mebus: libc6 is an essential package, you don't "just up/downgrade" this. |
| 13:13.49 | Yruama_Lairba | i did something with xbindkeys and xdotools, but repeated mouse click tend to continue after key release |
| 13:13.57 | mebus | tomreyn: that's why I was asking |
| 13:14.17 | tomreyn | mebus: and i answered by "install debian" ;-) |
| 13:14.33 | floogy | tomreyn: -!- #debian You're not a channel operator ??? |
| 13:14.49 | mebus | there has to be another way^^ |
| 13:15.00 | tomreyn | floogy: yes, you're not. what's your question there? |
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| 13:15.26 | floogy | That was the output on floogy: see /topic ("chanlogs") |
| 13:15.52 | tomreyn | floogy: what i meant to express is that you should run the /topic command and take particular note at the output of it where is says "chanlogs" |
| 13:16.12 | floogy | okay, sorry. It came just to my mind ... |
| 13:16.51 | mebus | "ii libc6:amd64 2.28-10" |
| 13:16.54 | mebus | downgrade just happend. |
| 13:17.33 | tomreyn | floogy: sorry if i made that too complicated. in case you didn't notice, yet, the channel topic here says "chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog". so it suggests you run this irc command: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 13:17.50 | Filystyn | So I simply copy on windows downloaded debian ISO on usb ? |
| 13:18.01 | Filystyn | hard... |
| 13:18.07 | tomreyn | floogy: this would get you a reply from the channel bot, named "dpkg", with additional information on the channel logging. |
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| 13:20.15 | floogy | tomreyn: Hm, It seems to me getting nothing on /msg dpkg irclog? But I'm using irssi for the first time (because xchat@win is banned suddenly for the first time on freenode for me today). |
| 13:21.35 | tomreyn | Filystyn: so you have windows installed and want to install debian? personally i'd use a netinstall iso (maybe the one with firmware included) on a usb stick then. there are several softwares for windows which can write an iso file to a usb storage in a way that systems can then boot off it. |
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| 13:23.11 | floogy | tomreyn: okay, I'll try again with pidgin@win |
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| 13:25.30 | tomreyn | Filystyn: utilities i've often seen recommended for writing .iso files to usb storages on windows so that they become bootable are 'rufus' and balena etcher. but pick whatever works for your. there's also ##windows for additional suggestions. |
| 13:26.03 | floogy | err, I'm banned with pidgin too(?): Verbindung unterbrochen. |
| 13:26.05 | floogy | ERROR :Closing Link: p200300c92f3d93008cee06420b7aeaa4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (*** Banned ) |
| 13:26.27 | tomreyn | floogy: for general help with IRC, please ask in #freenode |
| 13:27.10 | tomreyn | floogy: regarding the /msg dpkg irclog command, you should have received a 'private' message from user dpkg. |
| 13:27.18 | tomreyn | this may show up in a different tab |
| 13:27.29 | shtrb | floogy, connect to #pidgin |
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| 13:39.06 | floogy | timeless: Okay, now I reached the issri tabs ;) |
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| 13:44.27 | McErroneous | Hi, anybody still using debian 6.x ? (Please get in touch with me , message me) |
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| 13:50.29 | JPT | McErroneous: Debian 6 is wayyyy out of service. You should try and upgrade (using the archive sources) or plainly backup and reinstall if possible. |
| 13:52.15 | JPT | If you have a specific question, you can state it here and see what comes up. |
| 13:53.05 | JPT | The only people i know that operate an old debian are on debian 7, and they only operate it because i exported an old VM for them to run on a disconnected laptop, so they can keep their special app alive |
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| 13:57.20 | timeless | floogy: ok, but I don't have any context |
| 13:59.55 | McErroneous | ignore JPT |
| 14:01.09 | JPT | Oh well, i'll ignore it :) |
| 14:01.47 | Filystyn | How much Do I pay for debian? |
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| 14:04.27 | floogy | Maybe I mistaken you. Anyway, the backlogs are not uptodate, one or a half day behind. I was banned by freenode for 4 hours on trying to solve my sshd issues here. Now it seems, only irssi is working for me on freenode, maybe freenode doesn't connects to freenode.net? dunno |
| 14:05.48 | JPT | Filystyn: Debian is free software, so if you choose to download and install it, it's free as in free software. If you buy it from a distributor (as a shipped dvd or similar) you'll pay for their cost. |
| 14:05.52 | floogy | JPT: Ah, JPT. You're one of the guys helped me with my sshd issue. |
| 14:06.27 | JPT | Yes, i was. To connect to freenode, you usually point your client at irc.freenode.net. |
| 14:06.58 | floogy | I don't know, if I missed some of your answers on disconnection, because xchat@win was buggy (therefor I wa banned). |
| 14:08.02 | JPT | floogy: It doesn't look like you missed something while you've been away. |
| 14:08.03 | floogy | Suddenly I was disconnected and my windows console programm was closed with three open tabs ... |
| 14:08.34 | floogy | okay, thanks. |
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| 14:12.56 | floogy | JPT: I guess you don't have an idea why I only be able to connect only one ssh session at onece to the debian buster sshd server right? Particulary, because I cannot find any log entries about tha rejection. |
| 14:13.42 | JPT | Unfortunately, apart from the usual suspects (firewall rules, weird ssh client config, weird ssh server config, limited process numbers for target user on server), i'm out of ideas. |
| 14:14.53 | floogy | Okay. Maybe I'll find the culprit myself. Thank you! |
| 14:15.49 | floogy | Maybe processes or even free space. I'll look into tha, too. |
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| 14:17.10 | JPT | Since you mentioned that you fiddled with the hosts.allow, perhaps also check the hosts.deny and (if present, not sure) the third one if there is one. |
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| 14:19.42 | Filystyn | JPT if it's free why there are non free packets |
| 14:19.50 | Filystyn | Was looking on sources lists examples\ |
| 14:20.02 | Filystyn | Definatly someone is here paying money in the shadows |
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| 14:20.19 | Filystyn | Trying to hide it from user? |
| 14:20.24 | JPT | There are also non-free packets which include things like firmware which can be proprietary. |
| 14:20.45 | JPT | Having a separate non-free repository allows users to decide what they want to use and know the legal implications. |
| 14:21.16 | Filystyn | So the system is not free actualy |
| 14:21.19 | JPT | You can read a bit more about the details of "non-free" here: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive#s-non-free |
| 14:21.25 | tomreyn | Filystyn: i think you should just go elsewhere for trolling, and take some classes, too, yours is really on a very sorry level so far. |
| 14:21.32 | JPT | The system itself is free, but it does not stop you to install non-free software. |
| 14:22.06 | Filystyn | But is sucks if I mistakenly install those packets they will send me a bill |
| 14:22.32 | Filystyn | I am now a bit afraid to install this system. Since any mistake might lead to paying money for soft I never wanted |
| 14:23.00 | shtrb | you are mixing charge for use and free to use (as in free beer) |
| 14:23.07 | JPT | It doesn't work like that. Please go ahead and read the except i linked earlier. |
| 14:23.20 | Filystyn | well if it's non free to use and I can't use it why it is in repository ? |
| 14:23.25 | oerheks | Filystyn, really? |
| 14:24.04 | Filystyn | This make sno sens puting in repository soft a user is forbiden to use |
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| 14:29.29 | Filystyn | Sucks most hardware packets are non-free |
| 14:29.58 | floogy | JPT: FYI, there are odd issues on sshd out there: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26539386/ssh-issue-of-docker-in-redhat-6-5 |
| 14:30.10 | floogy | JPT: https://serverfault.com/questions/458553/cant-log-in-via-ssh-to-any-accounts-using-bin-bash-shell-on-synology-nas |
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| 14:30.48 | floogy | JPT: found those issues by googling debug1: Setting controlling tty using TIOCSCTTY. |
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| 14:35.47 | JPT | floogy: Those seem a bit more specific than yours. If i remember correctly, you're just running a slightly modified debian 10 within a regular virtual machine? |
| 14:36.25 | shtrb | Anyone have an idea how one can use Wi-Fi calling with debian (and some kind of dialer from debian to use ) |
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| 14:37.38 | JPT | shtrb: You're probably looking for one of many possible voice over IP (VoIP) clients (and possibly more related software). That's a whole universe on its own. |
| 14:38.21 | shtrb | Oh I know of voip :) thank you , I would like to use my current sim card to auth against the provider and have the ipsec tunnel working . |
| 14:39.13 | shtrb | Many providers allow today WiFi Calling (your phone make an ipsec connection ,use your sim card to auth and authorizate , and make a call over the wifi network ) . |
| 14:39.36 | JPT | Oh, okay. I didn't know about that yet. |
| 14:40.41 | shtrb | Now I know how to use your sim card for auth (via wpa_supplicant + card read ) , I know ipsec I'm missing the third part of the service (and if possible not to use any smart phone at all ) |
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| 14:45.59 | JPT | I don't know about all of that, but i wish best of luck for finding people that can help you out. It seems to be a fairly fresh topic, even a quick google search doesn't really give deep results. |
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| 14:48.39 | chakpapa | Can anyone tell me if the "updates" repository should be activated by default? I have a production environment and value stability |
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| 14:49.51 | dvs | chakpapa, the debian-security "updates" repo definitely should |
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| 14:50.17 | chakpapa | dvs, not the security. I am talking about the "release-updates"/ volatile |
| 14:50.24 | chakpapa | is it recommended to have that? |
| 14:51.41 | JPT | Official debian repositories for "stable" are - as the name already states - fairly stable within releases. (Don't use "stable", use "buster" or whatever major version you want to stick to, so you don't get surprise-upgrades) |
| 14:51.54 | dvs | Hmmm... I don't know about that repo. I have a buster-updates repo which contains rapidly changing packages. |
| 14:52.21 | chakpapa | Yup. I was talking about that one. "buster-updates" ... |
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| 14:53.27 | JPT | I believe that "buster-updates" refers to this one: https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates |
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| 14:54.39 | JPT | According to that description, i would recommend to keep that repository and expect that it does not introduce breaking changes. |
| 14:55.19 | JPT | I got way more disruption from third party repos (e.g. elasticsearch, which just broke everything with a minor update) |
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| 15:15.45 | Pinchiukas | What do I have to do so that "apt-get install -y grub-pc" would not ask me for anything? I'm trying to perform this non-interactively from a script. |
| 15:16.58 | oerheks | the -y accepts the defaults |
| 15:17.31 | Pinchiukas | It doesn't. |
| 15:17.54 | LaunchDirector | Hello, can anyone help me figure out why my security camera only upload to the home directory even when i try to change to /mnt/ it just ends up creating a /mnt/ folder in /home/. Im using pure-ftpd it used to work last week and now it doesnt. I can access any folder over winscps over ftp from another computer so i dont get why the camera only has access to home |
| 15:18.37 | LaunchDirector | i tried 3 different ftp servers not sure how else to configure them anymore |
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| 15:20.36 | floogy | JPT: I got it! The debug mode defines in /etc/default/sshd: SSHD_OPTS=-ddd limited the connection to one at once! |
| 15:20.53 | JPT | Ooooh, that's evil :D |
| 15:21.12 | JPT | Alright, disable debug mode and everything should be back to normal :) |
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| 15:21.28 | floogy | Yes, it is! omg |
| 15:21.54 | JPT | I'll try to keep that noted in my head for when it might become useful again |
| 15:22.12 | floogy | Probably to reduce the debug noise and confuse the debugger ... |
| 15:22.35 | JPT | That's very likely. It's already much output for one session. I don't want to imagine multiple sessions. |
| 15:23.08 | floogy | Yes, indeed |
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| 15:25.55 | floogy | A half day lost, only due to my lacked memory of setting unnessecary email alerts for Attempt sshd logins in hosts.allow ... jeess |
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| 15:27.16 | JPT | At least it's a solvable issue. Burning time is still better than recovering mission critical things with time in your neck. Enjoy your sunday :) |
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| 15:33.10 | saveNexit | hi, I cant connect to another computer via scp, nor can ping it |
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| 15:34.02 | floogy | JPT: I'm not sure, though, but it seems to me, that one can use in parallel multiple session with debug1 (-d), up to two session with debug2 (-dd) and only one session at a time with debug3 (-ddd). |
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| 15:35.42 | JPT | The manpage doesn't really explain the individual levels, but if that's what it does, i guess it's okay. |
| 15:37.22 | floogy | Thank you JPT, have a nice sunday too! |
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| 15:39.50 | saveNexit | I had no problem with ssh or scp until now. and ping was working. what I can only think of as the reason is that I reset my router recently. how can I fix this? |
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| 15:40.58 | floogy | saveNexit: I only can guess. Maybe it has to do with MTU, or routing ... |
| 15:41.35 | JPT | Use `ip addr show` and `ip route show` to verify that your local network configuration is still okay. Also double check your ethernet cable is plugged in, so we can save us a headache. |
| 15:42.43 | JPT | Then ping your router and see if that works. |
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| 15:44.14 | saveNexit | this is all Chinese for me |
| 15:44.18 | saveNexit | I dont even know what you mean |
| 15:44.40 | saveNexit | those commands show normal outputs |
| 15:44.53 | saveNexit | nothing irregular |
| 15:46.03 | JPT | Okay - what was the last thing that you changed before it stopped working? |
| 15:46.20 | saveNexit | all plugged in, all shown ok, host is up (nmap output)..still nothing |
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| 15:47.25 | saveNexit | I was suggested to change ISP's router settings. but that didnt help |
| 15:47.59 | JPT | Perhaps the issue is on the other end. Perhaps you failed to login a bunch of times and you got (temporarily) blacklisted? |
| 15:47.59 | floogy | maybe the router lost some configuration on reset? |
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| 15:49.19 | floogy | Do you have another server to connect, to verify the issue isn't on the remote side? |
| 15:49.20 | saveNexit | I havent configured anything. it is already a very simple interface |
| 15:49.20 | saveNexit | you cant configure much, only very little |
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| 16:04.40 | teclo- | Evening, it seems I may have found some inconsistence in Debian GNU/Linux 10.x |
| 16:04.58 | teclo- | I'm reading the loadkeys man page and it says the keymaps are in /usr/share/keymaps |
| 16:05.09 | teclo- | but there's not directory /usr/share/keymaps at all |
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| 16:06.24 | JPT | Maybe those are provided by the console-keymaps-* packages? |
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| 16:11.02 | teclo- | JPT: might be.... |
| 16:11.23 | teclo- | so the command to change the keymap is longer loadkeys <something> ? |
| 16:11.54 | JPT | I never really used it, but yes, loadkeys should require an argument |
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| 16:12.21 | teclo- | well it use to be loadkeys be-latin1.map :) |
| 16:12.32 | teclo- | but maybe that changed after some years |
| 16:12.32 | JPT | I'm not sure if the codes are consistent across distributions. For archlinux, i use 'loadkeys de' to load a basic german layout. |
| 16:13.31 | teclo- | loadkeys be |
| 16:13.31 | teclo- | cannot open file be |
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| 16:15.51 | JPT | Looks like the package 'console-data' contains the most basic keymaps: https://packages.debian.org/buster/all/console-data/filelist |
| 16:16.14 | JPT | be-latin1 is mentioned in there, too |
| 16:19.27 | teclo- | ah thank you JPT |
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| 16:23.46 | dob1 | I don't remember what does the -ng means in package name |
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| 16:26.07 | JPT | For `aircrack-ng` it stands for "next generation" |
| 16:26.59 | sney | that's usually a safe assumption for what it means. same for syslog-ng, initng, etc |
| 16:28.28 | dob1 | it's the fork of the package? |
| 16:28.33 | dob1 | the program |
| 16:29.00 | JPT | In most cases it's "the same tool, but made from scratch to more modern standards" |
| 16:29.08 | JPT | Something like a complete 2.0 style remake |
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| 16:30.44 | dob1 | JPT, got the idea, thanks |
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| 16:40.23 | mad_monk | I am trying to understand /boot partition on LVM - as per the documentation it should be outside LVM - https://wiki.debian.org/LVM#A.2Fboot |
| 16:40.34 | mad_monk | Is it still applicable for GRUB 2 version and above? |
| 16:41.03 | mad_monk | Is it recommended to have a separate partition for /boot ? |
| 16:43.06 | JPT | If you're using Grub2, under certain conditions you can boot off of an lvm. But i doubt that grub can fetch its own config and additional modules from an lvm - at least not without embedding lvm modules in grub. |
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| 16:43.36 | JPT | If you want to save yourself a headache, just throw in a separate partition for /boot and you're good. |
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| 16:44.02 | JPT | Note that booting uefi-style still requires an efi partition (FAT-32) to work. |
| 16:46.20 | JPT | Personally, i strongly recommend creating a /boot partition, so no matter what else you're coming up with, you can boot into your linux + initramfs first. This way, everything will be way easier. |
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| 16:47.19 | mad_monk | Thanks |
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| 16:50.59 | sney | also, if you're making a separate /boot and think there's even a *small* chance that you *might* want to use non-standard or homebuilt kernels in the future, make your /boot about twice as big as the installer suggests |
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| 16:53.17 | MESSIAH | How to check all files in folder for chown? |
| 16:53.36 | sney | you are probably looking for 'ls -l' |
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| 16:57.04 | MESSIAH | sney yes that's it. Next how to change chown to new user of all files? |
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| 16:57.24 | sney | first of all, the "ch" in "chown" already means "change". |
| 16:57.57 | sney | you want to know how to change ownership, the answer is: read 'man chown' |
| 16:58.06 | MESSIAH | chown -ch newuser:newuser? |
| 16:58.26 | sney | no. read the instructions. |
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| 17:13.19 | CarlFK | when compiling, what var points to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ? |
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| 17:14.22 | CarlFK | like if I wanted to have a different dir of libs /foo/, I could set said var=foo and the build tools would likely respect that |
| 17:15.17 | CarlFK | this is all to help track down a bug with building https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-examples/ against gst-master |
| 17:16.09 | ChmEarl | CarlFK, its configured in as: --libdir=/usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) |
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| 17:21.14 | CarlFK | ChmEarl: um... maybe? I am trying to figure out why this happens: |
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| 17:21.32 | CarlFK | pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0 => 2.58.3 (good) |
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| 17:22.27 | CarlFK | ninja -C builddir devenv (does some things, gives me a new shell, https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-build#development-environment |
| 17:22.56 | CarlFK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.24 | CarlFK | and now trying to build the examples fail |
| 17:24.05 | CarlFK | so what did "ninja -C builddir devenv " do that caused pkg-config to fail ? |
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| 17:27.45 | CarlFK | the answer might be PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
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| 20:12.37 | jim | what;s the name of the thing where you have a config file, and you feed it to the installer and it installs debian according to that file? |
| 20:14.02 | jim | preseeding! |
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| 20:17.00 | MESSIAH | Somebody using fail2ban? |
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| 20:24.04 | thelounge1312 | What's the proper way in buster to run "ethtool -s INTERFACE wol g" at startup? A manual run seems to reset it after every reboot |
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| 20:29.19 | Allain | this sounds to be a good place https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/166473/debian-how-to-run-a-script-on-startup-as-soon-as-there-is-an-internet-connecti |
| 20:31.02 | thelounge1312 | ah, perfect. Thanks! |
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| 20:32.41 | Allain | Just seqrching zith the right zords qnd you get the qnszer |
| 20:33.00 | Allain | This what I did |
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| 20:35.19 | thelounge1312 | yeah, i found a lot of systemd and (old) rc.local answers, figured I'd ask just to be sure |
| 20:35.22 | thelounge1312 | thanks again |
| 20:35.52 | jmcnaught | thelounge1312: check out /usr/share/doc/ethtool/README.Debian it looks like you can configure wol in /etc/network/interfaces with a line like "ethernet-wol g" in your iface stanza. |
| 20:37.12 | Allain | Hi |
| 20:37.16 | thelounge1312 | jmcnaught I tried that but didn't seem to work. Using this with proxmox which creates that bridged interface, so not sure if that mattered? |
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| 20:38.02 | Allain | Do you know a way to wol VM interfaces ? I use Vmware Workstation. An application exists but for Windows and it is not free |
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| 20:38.51 | Allain | I have 4 VM in a local network on my laptop, 2 Linux and 2 BSD |
| 20:39.33 | jmcnaught | thelounge1312: proxmox might be different, see /msg dpkg proxmox |
| 20:41.13 | tds | thelounge1312: what does `dpkg -l ifupdown*` output? |
| 20:42.19 | thelounge1312 | tds https://hastebin.com/hecudizewo.sql |
| 20:43.14 | tds | thelounge1312: ah, so plain ifupdown rather than ifupdown2; the /etc/network/interfaces stuff should work then |
| 20:43.15 | sney | iirc proxmox overwrites /etc/network/interfaces on boot and does some other custom stuff. this network has a ##proxmox that will have more accurate support for you. |
| 20:43.31 | thelounge1312 | tds didn't seem to, but the if-up.d script did |
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| 20:47.09 | sney | tds: look at that version string, the +pve1 strongly suggests that it won't behave the same way as debian's |
| 20:47.19 | LaunchDirector | Hello, can anyone help me figure out an ftp issue. Why my security camera only upload to the home directory even when i try to change to /mnt/ it just ends up creating a /mnt/ folder in /home/. Im using pure-ftpd it used to work last week and now it doesnt. I can access any folder over winscps over ftp from another computer so i dont get why the camera only has access to home |
| 20:47.26 | sney | (where the differences are, we could only guess without looking at the patches) |
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| 20:58.39 | tds | sney / thelounge1312: afaik pve's ifupdown is fairly stock, the only difference to the buster one is the prerm is removed, so it can cleanly be uninstalled (and swapped to ifupdown2) without taking down networking -- and pve only overwrites /e/n/i when you actively make changes through the web ui (or reboot having previously made changes) |
| 20:58.46 | tds | oh, they're gone anyway |
| 20:58.51 | tds | (and never turned up in ##proxmox :( ) |
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| 21:11.45 | MESSIAH | I have question about bantime in fail2ban |
| 21:13.19 | rany | MESSIAH: please ask your question about bantime in fail2ban |
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| 21:19.39 | MESSIAH | OK |
| 21:19.51 | MESSIAH | Next question is about host.deny |
| 21:20.51 | MESSIAH | If I add IP to this file then I need restart server? |
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| 21:44.17 | Allain | host.deny is a config file, it just read by an application, maybe restart if it is a service MESSIAH |
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| 21:45.26 | MESSIAH | Allain So if I add there my IP will be blocked instant or after reload service? |
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| 21:46.39 | sney | I imagine this is covered in the manual |
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| 21:58.44 | Allain | MESSIAH, Try something simple to test so you know, I just made a test with SSH but it does not work as expected after restarting the service. |
| 21:59.09 | jhutchins | MESSIAH: I think most services that use these files check them on each new connection, but a service that uses them should specify in the documentation. |
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| 21:59.24 | Allain | What do you want to block ? It's sometimes better to block user or machines in the service configuration, like un ssh |
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| 21:59.43 | MESSIAH | I want block bruteforce |
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| 22:00.02 | jhutchins | MESSIAH: SSH? |
| 22:00.23 | MESSIAH | nope e-mails |
| 22:00.35 | MESSIAH | Probably in future will be ftp and ssh |
| 22:01.00 | Vizva | why the gui klvm is dropped? |
| 22:01.11 | sney | ,v klvm |
| 22:01.12 | judd | No package named 'klvm' was found in amd64. |
| 22:01.21 | jhutchins | MESSIAH: You'll need to investigate the documentation for yor software. Most MTAs are able to use a blacklist, but it's not hosts.deny. |
| 22:01.43 | sney | ,file bin/klvm |
| 22:01.47 | judd | No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 22:01.56 | sney | Vizva: any more details? |
| 22:01.59 | jhutchins | MESSIAH: hosts.allow and hosts.deny are mostly used by older protocols like telnet, rsh, and ftp. |
| 22:02.25 | jhutchins | MESSIAH: I would recommend that you NOT run ftp, but use the sftp feature of ssh. |
| 22:03.00 | Vizva | it was a gui to deal with the lvm2 |
| 22:03.17 | sney | using postfix's domain_access to blackhole entire tlds is also a good way to deny large amounts of spam with minimal overhead. |
| 22:03.26 | MESSIAH | jhutchins I prefer block totally IP after 10 failed attempts |
| 22:04.39 | Vizva | i thik it my mistake |
| 22:05.43 | Vizva | ,v kvpm |
| 22:05.44 | judd | Package: kvpm on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.9-1; stretch: 0.9.10-1 |
| 22:05.50 | jhutchins | Vizva: Better to learn the CLI interface. |
| 22:06.20 | Vizva | it was useful |
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| 22:06.44 | Vizva | you start with something work a long time with and then they drop it |
| 22:06.57 | Allain | Vizva, You search for "Logical Volume Management", I don't see this package after Stretch edition |
| 22:07.28 | Vizva | yeah thats was my question :why it was fall out ? |
| 22:08.47 | sney | #916802 |
| 22:08.49 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/916802 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: kvpm -- RoQA; unmaintained, requires to-be-removed library»; severity: normal; opened: 2018-12-18; last modified: 2019-01-16. |
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| 22:09.01 | Allain | It4s q good auestionm no ;oure GUIm ze need to use the ter;inql |
| 22:09.08 | sney | the developer abandoned it, it seems. |
| 22:09.23 | Allain | sorry typing in azerty |
| 22:09.42 | beelzebuzz | :) |
| 22:10.16 | Vizva | ok thanks unmaintained or old rary |
| 22:10.22 | Vizva | library |
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| 22:10.57 | Allain | https://www.howtogeek.com/127246/linux-sysadmin-how-to-manage-lvms-with-a-gui/ |
| 22:11.09 | sney | >2012 |
| 22:11.33 | Vizva | iam more in zfs but i have some backups |
| 22:11.46 | Vizva | i can use lvm with console but i did like that gui |
| 22:11.52 | Vizva | lvm2 |
| 22:12.07 | Allain | I get it on Bullseye "apt-cache show system-config-lvm" |
| 22:12.17 | Vizva | if i was a young guyit was a crime to use any gui |
| 22:12.35 | Allain | Check this is it |
| 22:13.28 | Allain | It's not a crime but you will always have better results with the command line with *NIX |
| 22:13.53 | Vizva | you must understand thats a little bit a joke from my side |
| 22:14.02 | Allain | :D |
| 22:14.04 | Vizva | they dont come on my door |
| 22:14.08 | Vizva | :P |
| 22:14.58 | MESSIAH | How to totally control computer by internet including reboot, shut down or enter to BIOS. I'm wondering if it's possible to remote install system on computer without getting physically contact? |
| 22:15.46 | Vizva | look here the hacker needs a new idea for broke into |
| 22:15.53 | Vizva | ;) |
| 22:15.56 | Allain | system-config-lvm does not exist anymore in Debian's packages after Stratch |
| 22:16.40 | sney | MESSIAH: there are "lights out" controllers that you can install in a server to do that. also some VPS providers provide a vnc console that lets you look at grub, etc. but you can't do it with just software on a regular computer |
| 22:16.52 | Vizva | if you find a vulnerability you can install cron jobs too |
| 22:17.42 | Vizva | so you victim will know what have to do after reboot |
| 22:17.48 | Vizva | +r |
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| 22:18.20 | sney | Vizva: this is a debian support channel. "hacker" stuff is offtopic |
| 22:19.00 | Vizva | sney i dont, simply |
| 22:19.30 | Vizva | <MESSIAH> How to totally control computer by internet including reboot, shut down or enter to BIOS. I'm wondering if it's possible to remote install system on computer without getting physically contact? |
| 22:19.54 | sney | Vizva: that was a legitimate question and I answered him. you commented with some offtopic nonsense. please don't do that again. |
| 22:20.03 | Vizva | if someone ask such a question - its a little bit on this path and its allowed to still use your brain |
| 22:20.34 | sney | especially if you have no idea what you are talking about. it gets in the way and can confuse people |
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| 22:21.20 | Vizva | sney i will say what i want to say - and if i do a mistake i will not ask you |
| 22:21.43 | Vizva | you can say it in a hard way or you can be a polite |
| 22:21.53 | sney | I'm giving you a hint for staying in this channel. others would just ban you. what do you prefer? :) |
| 22:22.01 | Vizva | yes do it |
| 22:22.28 | Vizva | if you have the power do it i dont wnat to stay with peoples like you , censors |
| 22:22.43 | Vizva | iwas born 1966 |
| 22:22.51 | Vizva | and i think youre just a kid |
| 22:23.19 | sney | shrug |
| 22:23.20 | Vizva | i dont say more about but -.... watch you language |
| 22:23.33 | Vizva | too !!!! |
| 22:23.34 | sney | none of that is my problem. either stay on topic or someone else will help you leave |
| 22:24.25 | Vizva | you want to gain power |
| 22:24.32 | Vizva | and you have nothing |
| 22:24.46 | Vizva | i dont say anything whats a big deal |
| 22:24.57 | Vizva | and now i stop talking with you ---- kid |
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| 22:51.48 | Vizva | ,v amdgpu-lib |
| 22:51.49 | judd | No package named 'amdgpu-lib' was found in amd64. |
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| 23:41.49 | MESSIAH | Can I upgrade Debian to 10.5 without fear of wipe conf files? |
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| 23:58.03 | sney | MESSIAH: what version are you upgrading from? |
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| 23:58.13 | MESSIAH | 10.4 |
| 23:58.38 | sney | yes, 10.4 upgrades directly to 10.5 with no config changes. |
| 23:58.53 | sney | also, your config files will never be wiped without your knowledge |
| 23:58.54 | MESSIAH | So I should not worry about nothing? |
| 23:59.16 | oxek | If I want to use vi-style keybindings in my terminal, do I have to modify both .bashrc for bash and .inputrc for readline? |
| 23:59.28 | sney | MESSIAH: are you sure you aren't on 10.5 already? cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:59.45 | MESSIAH | All apps and server will be work same after upgrade? |
| 23:59.50 | sney | yes. |