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| 02:09.16 | lxbarbosa | back to firefox :) |
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| 02:30.40 | kreyren | My tty is showing only blinking `_` how do i get getty there? |
| 02:30.54 | kreyren | command getty is installed, but this is system without systemd so i guess i broke something |
| 02:34.25 | sney | an odd combination, having a specific preference of init system without knowing that the init system is what spawns ttys |
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| 02:34.58 | kreyren | sney, openrc ain't spawning these |
| 02:35.06 | kreyren | but it's on tty0 outputting logs and stuff |
| 02:35.14 | kreyren | and i dont have the getty/tty sercice |
| 02:35.20 | kreyren | s/sercice/service/gm |
| 02:35.32 | sney | in sysv getty was configured through /etc/inittab, it will vary, try looking at the manual |
| 02:36.06 | kreyren | sney, that seems to be preserved~ http://ix.io/2qOY |
| 02:36.29 | kreyren | tries to ask in #devuan then |
| 02:38.25 | kreyren | created https://github.com/Kreyren/kreyren/issues/15 |
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| 02:49.20 | David-- | hi, can anyone help me with this error please? The repository 'https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu buster Release' does not have a Release file. |
| 02:49.46 | ectospasm | ubuntu doesn't use Buster as a code name. |
| 02:49.53 | ectospasm | To my knowledge, anyway. |
| 02:50.24 | ectospasm | David--: did you mean Debian? Not Ubuntu? |
| 02:51.00 | ectospasm | I'm not familiar with Docker images, but that looks so wrong. |
| 02:51.15 | David-- | looks like an error with the script |
| 02:51.17 | sney | 3rd party repos sometimes mix up the release names in annoying ways, but yeah, make *sure* you copied the repo entry exactly |
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| 02:51.41 | sney | and if you're 100% sure that you followed the instructions to the letter, take it to docker support, because we don't (and can't) support non-debian rando stuff |
| 02:52.12 | David-- | that's fine, it's not docker... it's a 3rd party script to install something that is supposed to install docker as part of it. |
| 02:52.23 | David-- | The script is supposed to support ubuntu and debian |
| 02:52.39 | David-- | i'll try it with Ubuntu... thanks for the help |
| 02:52.40 | sney | ok, then ask whoever maintains the script |
| 02:53.14 | David-- | i was following their guide but if it doesn't work with Ubuntu i'll ask them... thanks again |
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| 03:03.03 | quadrathoch2 | David-- I guess the tutorial just forgot to edit the ubuntu to debian part |
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| 05:01.36 | mi11k1 | anybody know if it's possible to get an image of stretch or buster for this ? https://imgur.com/gallery/oDcyaPs |
| 05:02.59 | mi11k1 | thie current OS is complete shit, can't even install an apk, it's pretty guarded. can't get it to resolve either |
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| 05:03.59 | mi11k1 | have time settings correct and can't do anything . encryption errors |
| 05:04.38 | mi11k1 | ok, going into trash can |
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| 06:37.07 | bigMouthCommie | just got a new (used) laptop with no OS on it. installed win10 on 1/3 of the drive, then debian on the rest. i can't seem to get debian to boot. |
| 06:37.19 | bigMouthCommie | it goes straight into the windows every time |
| 06:37.41 | bigMouthCommie | i understand i will probably need to run the whole install again, but can someone guess with me about why this happened? |
| 06:38.40 | bracham | which did you install second? |
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| 06:39.01 | bigMouthCommie | debian |
| 06:39.34 | bracham | it's new, so it's uefi? |
| 06:39.58 | bigMouthCommie | uh... it's like 8 years old but i dug through the bios. |
| 06:40.12 | bigMouthCommie | afaict i disabled uefi |
| 06:40.28 | bracham | ok so it boots as legacy? |
| 06:40.50 | bigMouthCommie | lemme take it down here and get you real answers instead of guesses |
| 06:42.57 | bracham | if it's booting in legacy mode, i'm guessing grub didn't get correctly installed. if it's in uefi mode, then you can either open the boot options screen right at startup and select the debian bootloader versus the windows bootloader, or go into the bios settings and switch the bootloader boot order |
| 06:43.39 | bigMouthCommie | windows added "windows boot manager" to my boot options. i discovered that earlier and moved it to lowest priority. i just DISABLED uefi. it was set as legacy first. |
| 06:44.30 | bigMouthCommie | i also just disabled windows boot manager, and now it won't boot at all |
| 06:44.44 | bracham | ok. you can leave uefi turned on, just set debian to be first choice, and you'll have grub come up |
| 06:44.46 | bigMouthCommie | it brings up the bios boot options. i choose hdd |
| 06:45.03 | bigMouthCommie | yea. i guess i'll take another crack at installing debian tomorrow |
| 06:45.15 | bracham | why reinstall? |
| 06:45.27 | bigMouthCommie | i don't think it installed grub |
| 06:45.36 | mi11k1 | just use legacy |
| 06:45.38 | bigMouthCommie | i walked away, when i came back it was timed out.... |
| 06:45.54 | mi11k1 | turn off eufi if you don't know what yer doing |
| 06:46.05 | bigMouthCommie | mi11k1: i turned off eufi entirely |
| 06:46.25 | mi11k1 | just reinstall and you'll see the process |
| 06:46.28 | bracham | um, or look around and figure it out |
| 06:46.37 | bigMouthCommie | thanx y'all |
| 06:46.42 | bigMouthCommie | catch u l8r |
| 06:46.44 | mi11k1 | the very last step will be grub |
| 06:47.01 | bracham | it's all there |
| 06:47.05 | mi11k1 | it takes 5 mins if you have an sdd |
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| 06:47.32 | mi11k1 | ssd * |
| 06:47.46 | bracham | if he did the install already, it's all there. he just can't get to the grub bootloader on the gpt system |
| 06:48.04 | mi11k1 | did you set the boot order? |
| 06:48.16 | mi11k1 | how many hardrives? |
| 06:48.38 | bracham | you know as much as i do |
| 06:48.54 | mi11k1 | boot into recovery and type update-grub as root |
| 06:48.58 | bracham | it's a laptop, so i'd guess one drive, multiple (at least 2) partitions |
| 06:49.31 | mi11k1 | the grub should just be other the master boot record |
| 06:49.48 | mi11k1 | you can try grub recue iso |
| 06:49.56 | bracham | legacy doesn't pick a second partition to boot from |
| 06:50.08 | bracham | which is why i was saying use uefi |
| 06:50.28 | mi11k1 | grub detects the installs on al partitions |
| 06:50.32 | bracham | yes |
| 06:50.32 | mi11k1 | makes a list |
| 06:50.33 | bracham | but |
| 06:50.43 | bracham | oh wait |
| 06:51.25 | mi11k1 | so just do a new install on the partition at the end you ick grub on tje mbr and pick thrle drive |
| 06:51.41 | bracham | just trying to think...isn't there issues using gpt and legacy? |
| 06:51.55 | mi11k1 | no |
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| 06:52.42 | mi11k1 | it's a complicated subject , I'm notbgettikg into trying to repair something |
| 06:53.03 | mi11k1 | cause ppl that don't know do some weird stuff. |
| 06:53.04 | bracham | i know i ran into an issue once...can't remember what it was though. i guess with legacy, if grub is installed in the only mbr, it would be first to load |
| 06:53.18 | mi11k1 | it's super simple and complicated at the same time |
| 06:53.33 | bracham | i know what you mean |
| 06:53.43 | mi11k1 | yah, so that's why I'm saying run the install again |
| 06:54.03 | bracham | first couple times working with uefi, i disabled it. then i figured it out and now love it |
| 06:54.21 | mi11k1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.28 | bracham | oh? |
| 06:54.33 | mi11k1 | I have like 5 machines , I use a mix |
| 06:54.48 | mi11k1 | it's something I don't mess with. I don't dual boot anymore |
| 06:54.56 | mi11k1 | just use virtualization |
| 06:55.16 | bracham | ah ok. i have three machines of my own, all older. i dual boot all of them |
| 06:55.24 | bracham | they're all legacy |
| 06:55.45 | mi11k1 | what's older? |
| 06:55.54 | bracham | about ten years or so |
| 06:56.07 | mi11k1 | dual core? |
| 06:56.26 | mi11k1 | what do you dual boot? |
| 06:56.51 | mi11k1 | if i do dual boot ever it's with 2 ssd |
| 06:57.04 | bracham | i think they're all dual core. |
| 06:57.10 | bracham | are you asking what OSes? |
| 06:57.15 | mi11k1 | ya |
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| 06:57.59 | bracham | this laptop has deb10, ubuntu2004 (just recently started switching from ubuntu), and windows 10. rarely use win10 |
| 06:58.21 | bracham | the wife's laptop has U2004 and win10 |
| 06:58.33 | mi11k1 | good choice in miving from ubuntu |
| 06:58.43 | bracham | and my desktop has U2004 and win7 |
| 06:59.18 | mi11k1 | dobthe cpus supoirt virtualisation ? |
| 07:00.25 | bracham | no clue, and i don't really care anyway, as i rarely use windows anymore |
| 07:02.41 | bracham | my biggest job coming up will be to switch my server from ubuntu server to debian |
| 07:11.31 | mi11k1 | what do you serve? |
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| 07:19.46 | bracham | i'm back. not sure what happened |
| 07:20.23 | mi11k1 | I need to fix my AC right now. |
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| 09:06.27 | sacarde | hi |
| 09:07.25 | sacarde | I have a key problem in debian-sparc: signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 84C573CD4E1AFD6C Debian Ports |
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| 09:48.10 | KOLANICH | Hello everybody. Could salsa.debian.org admins set vue_file_list_enabled into false? |
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| 10:33.50 | dreamer | hmm, finally dist-upgraded my laptop, but now my terminal font looks all terrible and the mouse is moving way too fast. meh. |
| 10:34.44 | NetTerminalGene | dreamer, buster? |
| 10:34.51 | dreamer | yes |
| 10:34.54 | wwilliam | Hello trying to install debian 10 in vm oracle Box intallations hangs at Configuring man-db (amd64) any advise please? other distributions have been installed with no issue on this server. Thank you. |
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| 10:37.16 | dreamer | huh. and there's no x-www-browser any more |
| 10:38.56 | dreamer | oh, that's my error |
| 10:39.20 | dreamer | but meh. not my fav terminal font sucks. settings of terminator are still the same. how does a font change so radically like this o.O |
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| 10:52.11 | wwilliam | Hello trying to install debian 10 in vm oracle Box intallations hangs at Configuring man-db (amd64) any advise please? other distributions have been installed with no issue on this server. Thank you. |
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| 11:13.03 | tomreyn | wwilliam: how much ram did you assign, are you using the VM template for 64-bit Debian systems? |
| 11:15.42 | wwilliam | Checking..... |
| 11:16.32 | wwilliam | 4096 ram |
| 11:16.56 | wwilliam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:26.54 | wwilliam | Thank you tomreyn all good now I choose the debian64 template, now it installed. |
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| 12:19.17 | tomreyn | you're welcome |
| 12:25.32 | flayer | i don't like looking through logs because all the messages scare me "why is x logging in on y?" "what does this error notice mean?" |
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| 13:47.17 | jhutchins | flayer: So set this goal: run ps ax, and learn what every item on that list is. |
| 13:48.10 | jhutchins | It's gotten a lot harder, with systemd there are a lot more kernel proesses, but once you get there, you'll really have mastere your system. |
| 13:48.24 | jhutchins | flayer: I'd say give the project two years. |
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| 13:49.06 | miskatonic | a reason why I avoid systemd |
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| 13:49.48 | jhutchins | miskatonic: Embrase the flames. |
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| 14:14.50 | huma | i have a 3rd party repository which i've installed some packages from. how do i remove all the packages in this repo and the repo itself? i'd like to replace them with the official buster packages. |
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| 14:19.17 | nkuttler | huma: aptitude search '~i(!~ODebian)' |
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| 14:26.47 | cleifer | the new chromium package is fucked up |
| 14:27.04 | cleifer | it's consistently pounding the CPU |
| 14:27.44 | cleifer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:32.46 | huma | cleifer: with zero tabs opened? |
| 14:33.49 | cleifer | it settles down a little but i upgraded it and restarted chrome and now it's unusably slow |
| 14:33.54 | cleifer | i just downgraded back to 80 |
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| 14:34.20 | cleifer | and it's snappy and works great |
| 14:34.28 | cleifer | definitely some kind of regression IMHO |
| 14:34.53 | nkuttler | ,v chromium |
| 14:34.54 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 70.0.3538.110-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 73.0.3683.75-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 73.0.3683.75-1~deb9u1; buster: 80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1; buster-security: 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1; bullseye: 83.0.4103.116-2; sid: 83.0.4103.116-2 |
| 14:35.11 | cleifer | i'm on buster |
| 14:35.13 | nkuttler | cleifer: report a bug? |
| 14:35.20 | cleifer | i'm mentioning it here |
| 14:35.27 | nkuttler | well, this isn't the bts |
| 14:36.01 | cleifer | if you all want to fly it up that's fine, i'm just mentioning it. |
| 14:36.41 | cleifer | memory killer also killed chromium when i was using 83 briefly. so yeah, it seems like something is wrong |
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| 14:43.43 | huma | nkuttler: this doesn't seem right. i have nginx installed from a 3rd party and it doesn't show it. instead, a lot of libs and gcc. weird. |
| 14:44.19 | nkuttler | huma: did you install a debian package for nginx? |
| 14:44.40 | nkuttler | huma: output of apt-cache policy <yournginxpackage> ? |
| 14:44.58 | huma | yep, did just that |
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| 14:45.47 | nkuttler | you did what? |
| 14:46.05 | huma | nkuttler: https://pastebin.com/raw/44NPB00C |
| 14:46.20 | huma | ran policy to check the repo |
| 14:46.22 | nkuttler | huma: that's a debian package |
| 14:46.44 | nkuttler | huma: are you looking for apt remove ~oobsolete ? |
| 14:47.25 | nkuttler | oh wait, acutally, unsure if that's a debian package, but it's not in the sources any more, so i guess apt can't know if it's external |
| 14:47.30 | huma | nkuttler: how come? debian is 1.14.21 |
| 14:47.44 | nkuttler | ,v nginx |
| 14:47.45 | judd | Package: nginx on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u5; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u6; stretch: 1.10.3-1+deb9u3; stretch-security: 1.10.3-1+deb9u3; stretch-backports: 1.14.1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.14.2-2+deb10u1; buster-security: 1.14.2-2+deb10u1; bullseye: 1.18.0-3; sid: 1.18.0-4 |
| 14:47.45 | huma | this one is 1.19.0 |
| 14:47.57 | huma | i'm on buster |
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| 14:48.23 | nkuttler | well, like i said, if it's not available any more apt doesn't seem to know where you installed it from |
| 14:48.36 | nkuttler | huma: apt remove ~oobsolete |
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| 14:48.57 | nkuttler | or it could have been installed locally with dpkg or what not |
| 14:49.33 | nkuttler | huma: sorry, aptitude remove ~oobsolete |
| 14:49.35 | huma | yea... it's a rather old system. upgraded it recently from debian 8. |
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| 14:52.38 | huma | didn't find any packages :/ |
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| 14:57.36 | huma | nkuttler: so this would be a leftover from debian 9, correct? https://pastebin.com/raw/jMXMzJDE |
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| 15:26.21 | bigMouthCommie | i had some problems dual booting win10 with deb10.4 and i asked for help here last night. a little sleep and googling, i've found out about gpt but i've ALWAYS done mbr and i just feel unsure about gpt. if someone here is experienced with gpt, would you hold my hand? |
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| 15:28.06 | shibboleth | what are you tryin to do? |
| 15:28.10 | shibboleth | trying |
| 15:28.28 | shibboleth | you've got a gpt-formatted drive on it and a pre-existing windows installation? |
| 15:28.42 | shibboleth | and want to install debian and do dual-boot? |
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| 15:29.11 | bigMouthCommie | shibboleth: i have an mbr disk |
| 15:29.24 | shibboleth | ...and? |
| 15:29.27 | bigMouthCommie | the machine shipped to me with a blank hdd |
| 15:29.32 | shibboleth | ok |
| 15:29.34 | bigMouthCommie | i've never made a gpt disk |
| 15:29.39 | shibboleth | ok |
| 15:29.49 | bigMouthCommie | and, for sure, never dualbooted in uefi |
| 15:30.14 | shibboleth | it seems unlikely that we're talking about the same machine you're currently using.... |
| 15:30.17 | bigMouthCommie | i got the deb10 xfce-nonfree live disc booted up |
| 15:30.23 | bigMouthCommie | right |
| 15:30.36 | shibboleth | so you've got a disconnected mbr-formatted drive |
| 15:30.42 | shibboleth | and a new machine with a second, blank drive? |
| 15:31.14 | shibboleth | ok, so we are talking the same machine you're using at the moment |
| 15:31.28 | shibboleth | then i recommend that you install windows first |
| 15:31.31 | bigMouthCommie | i don't know what you mean "disconnected mbr-formatted drive" but, yes... a new machine with "blank" drive (i've tried to make this work without reading docs and ended up here) |
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| 15:31.40 | shibboleth | never mind all that |
| 15:31.52 | shibboleth | <bigMouthCommie> shibboleth: i have an mbr disk |
| 15:31.56 | shibboleth | <bigMouthCommie> the machine shipped to me with a blank hdd |
| 15:32.16 | shibboleth | made me think we were not talking the same machine you're using for irc atm |
| 15:32.22 | bigMouthCommie | right but then i did a bunch of partitioning and installed both OSes but the dual boot is not working. |
| 15:32.41 | bigMouthCommie | actually, no booting at the moment except from optical |
| 15:32.43 | shibboleth | so the disk is no longer blank? |
| 15:32.52 | bigMouthCommie | right but i can lose all the data |
| 15:33.11 | shibboleth | alright, so here here we are three minutes and later and what you've been telling me thus far isn't true |
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| 15:33.49 | shibboleth | anyway |
| 15:34.00 | shibboleth | which is did you install first? |
| 15:34.02 | shibboleth | which os |
| 15:34.12 | bigMouthCommie | win10. |
| 15:34.21 | shibboleth | ok. paste.debian.net |
| 15:34.46 | shibboleth | the partition layout |
| 15:35.30 | bigMouthCommie | my plan was to nuke the entire disk and just do it right from the beginning. but if you tell me the command you want, i'll paste it out. |
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| 15:35.43 | shibboleth | gparted /dev/sdX |
| 15:35.53 | shibboleth | and "p" for print layout |
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| 15:37.02 | bigMouthCommie | will be a few minutes. need to update apt and get gparted |
| 15:37.30 | shibboleth | nvm that |
| 15:37.34 | shibboleth | cfdisk /dev/sdX |
| 15:37.38 | shibboleth | copy, paste |
| 15:38.07 | bigMouthCommie | cfdisk isn't on the live dvd either |
| 15:38.17 | shibboleth | sorry, my bad |
| 15:38.18 | shibboleth | parted |
| 15:38.21 | shibboleth | not gparted |
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| 15:40.18 | bigMouthCommie | http://paste.debian.net/1155119 |
| 15:40.41 | shibboleth | alright |
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| 15:40.54 | shibboleth | this an SSD or mechdrive? |
| 15:41.00 | shibboleth | ssd i take it |
| 15:41.16 | bigMouthCommie | i honestly don't know. it's a 10 year old thinkpad |
| 15:41.28 | shibboleth | model? |
| 15:41.33 | bigMouthCommie | e525 |
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| 15:41.39 | shibboleth | ewww |
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| 15:41.41 | shibboleth | anyway |
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| 15:42.01 | shibboleth | you're sure its bios is set up for uefi boot? |
| 15:42.05 | bigMouthCommie | it WAS |
| 15:42.09 | shibboleth | windows was working before you installed debian? |
| 15:42.11 | bigMouthCommie | but i disabled uefi |
| 15:42.28 | shibboleth | why? |
| 15:42.54 | bigMouthCommie | i was tired and haven't ever done dual boot WITH uefi before, didn't think it would break it. |
| 15:43.04 | shibboleth | listen... |
| 15:43.10 | bigMouthCommie | so installed windows WITH uefi on, disabled uefi, installed deb |
| 15:43.25 | shibboleth | either the drive is gpt-formatted and you do uefi boot or mbr+legacy |
| 15:43.51 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, so, you're one of those ppl who insist on solving algebra by chewing bubblegum? |
| 15:44.07 | shibboleth | anyway |
| 15:44.22 | shibboleth | reboot, enable uefi boot in bios |
| 15:44.29 | shibboleth | and uefi-boot the livedisc |
| 15:44.33 | bigMouthCommie | ok. i don't think i can figure out mbr+legacy any more with modern windows, so... i'm down to do gpt, which i only learned about this morning. i just wanted some hints to nuke the disk, set it up for gpt, and then do the debian install (after win10) with gpt/uefi |
| 15:44.41 | shibboleth | reboot, enable uefi boot in bios |
| 15:44.42 | shibboleth | and uefi-boot the livedisc |
| 15:44.50 | bigMouthCommie | thanx shibboleth |
| 15:44.55 | bigMouthCommie | :D |
| 15:45.36 | GGuest91 | ms-sys -7 /dev/sdX ; ms-sys -f /dev/sdX |
| 15:45.54 | GGuest91 | bootable windows |
| 15:45.57 | shibboleth | yeah, let's not go there |
| 15:46.44 | shibboleth | here we are fifteen minutes into this and he's been confused as to both the truth and what efi/mbr actually is |
| 15:46.56 | shibboleth | let's not with emulating mbr |
| 15:47.26 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, i'm not gonna hold your hand for hours, reboot now and do what i said |
| 15:47.37 | GGuest91 | shibboleth: you need to write the master boot record with -7 or maybe -10 use the ms-sys man page, but there's also an experimental option which i needed. this is the -f option. |
| 15:47.44 | shibboleth | i know that |
| 15:47.45 | GGuest91 | without an mbr the bios can't boot |
| 15:47.46 | shibboleth | you know that |
| 15:47.50 | bigMouthCommie | i used to do dual xp-gnu a LOT. (i already switched to uefi and am bringing the live system back up) |
| 15:47.58 | shibboleth | but when this breaks he'll be lost |
| 15:48.01 | bigMouthCommie | i was very practiced with mbr |
| 15:48.36 | GGuest91 | and you need the bootable flag on the partition on |
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| 15:49.15 | GGuest91 | mount -o loop ~/windows.iso /mnt/iso ; cp -r /mnt/iso/* /mnt/usb ; |
| 15:49.24 | GGuest91 | umount |
| 15:49.39 | shibboleth | GGuest91, you wanna take over? |
| 15:49.45 | GGuest91 | no |
| 15:49.46 | bigMouthCommie | please no. |
| 15:49.56 | bigMouthCommie | none of that looks right |
| 15:50.04 | GGuest91 | it worked for me. |
| 15:50.55 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, how are you still here if we're talking the same machine you're using for irc atm? |
| 15:51.00 | bigMouthCommie | live system still coming online |
| 15:51.02 | shibboleth | you've gotta reboot and change bios settings |
| 15:51.14 | bigMouthCommie | shibboleth: my irc system is separate |
| 15:51.25 | shibboleth | well, that only took twenty minutes... |
| 15:51.32 | bigMouthCommie | i thought i was clear about that |
| 15:52.17 | GGuest91 | my only problem in making windows usb bootable has been with the mbr, but maybe you have a bios setting. i never needed to poke around in the bios, but never used uefi before. |
| 15:52.23 | shibboleth | <shibboleth> never mind all that |
| 15:52.23 | shibboleth | <shibboleth> <bigMouthCommie> shibboleth: i have an mbr disk |
| 15:52.23 | shibboleth | <shibboleth> <bigMouthCommie> the machine shipped to me with a blank hdd |
| 15:52.23 | shibboleth | <shibboleth> made me think we were not talking the same machine you're using for irc atm |
| 15:52.23 | shibboleth | <bigMouthCommie> right but then i did a bunch of partitioning and installed both OSes but the dual boot is not working. |
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| 15:52.43 | bigMouthCommie | whoopz |
| 15:52.50 | bigMouthCommie | last line <bigMouthCommie> right but then i did a bunch of partitioning and installed both OSes but the dual boot is not working. |
| 15:52.54 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, i depend on you telling me what is true and not |
| 15:52.55 | bigMouthCommie | but i have my own scrollback |
| 15:52.59 | shibboleth | i can't rely on my astrologer |
| 15:53.10 | bigMouthCommie | i really thought i was clear. my apologies |
| 15:53.11 | shibboleth | astrologist |
| 15:54.03 | GGuest91 | if you set the mbr and even used the experimental ms-sys -f option, assuming you did the right partition with fdisk or another tool it should boot, and you needn't mess with the bios. |
| 15:54.24 | shibboleth | GGuest91, how about we rather just install efi grub |
| 15:54.49 | bigMouthCommie | oh yay. i have a gui. |
| 15:54.49 | GGuest91 | i don't have experience with uefi sorry |
| 15:54.58 | GGuest91 | but i hope it does boot properly made mbrs |
| 15:55.11 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, alright |
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| 15:55.23 | shibboleth | so, the bios is set to secure boot/uefi boot? |
| 15:55.29 | shibboleth | and you efi-booted the livedisc? |
| 15:56.00 | bigMouthCommie | yes |
| 15:56.02 | shibboleth | good |
| 15:56.06 | shibboleth | open a terminal as root |
| 15:56.26 | bigMouthCommie | done |
| 15:56.39 | shibboleth | we talking /dev/sda? |
| 15:56.46 | shibboleth | or /dev/nvmen***? |
| 15:56.53 | bigMouthCommie | dev/sda |
| 15:56.56 | shibboleth | k |
| 15:57.04 | bigMouthCommie | windows owns the front of the drive |
| 15:57.07 | bigMouthCommie | 4gb boot |
| 15:57.08 | shibboleth | mount /dev/sda5 /mnt |
| 15:57.12 | bigMouthCommie | 100gb root |
| 15:57.14 | bigMouthCommie | home |
| 15:57.15 | bigMouthCommie | swap |
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| 15:57.16 | shibboleth | if sda5 is the root part |
| 15:57.22 | shibboleth | yes |
| 15:57.25 | shibboleth | mount /dev/sda5 /mnt |
| 15:57.37 | shibboleth | mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/boot |
| 15:57.42 | shibboleth | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi |
| 15:58.01 | shibboleth | you may have to mkdir /mnt/boot/efi before mounting it |
| 15:58.10 | shibboleth | after you mounted /mnt/boot that is |
| 15:58.39 | shibboleth | well, we're waiting... |
| 15:58.56 | bigMouthCommie | hands were on another kbd |
| 15:59.05 | bigMouthCommie | but yea. mkdir and mount-ed |
| 15:59.12 | bigMouthCommie | just the 3 partitions? |
| 15:59.16 | shibboleth | mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev |
| 15:59.20 | shibboleth | mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts |
| 15:59.26 | shibboleth | mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc |
| 15:59.32 | shibboleth | mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys |
| 16:00.19 | bigMouthCommie | ... /mnt/sys |
| 16:00.22 | bigMouthCommie | done |
| 16:00.31 | shibboleth | chroot /mnt |
| 16:01.01 | bigMouthCommie | oh yay. this feels good. (i've debootstrapped a few systems) |
| 16:01.08 | shibboleth | done? |
| 16:01.14 | GGuest91 | sounds like a lot of trouble. you can make usb windows stick and install it, save some disk for your debian partition, then install debian, you'll have a dual log. |
| 16:01.17 | bigMouthCommie | yep |
| 16:01.24 | shibboleth | GGuest91, kindly: stfu |
| 16:01.28 | shibboleth | grub-install /dev/sda1 |
| 16:02.09 | shibboleth | then, update-grub2 |
| 16:02.17 | shibboleth | paste output |
| 16:02.19 | bigMouthCommie | error |
| 16:02.46 | bigMouthCommie | error on grub-install |
| 16:02.50 | shibboleth | likely that efi-version of grub innæt installed |
| 16:02.57 | shibboleth | dpkg -l | grep grub |
| 16:02.57 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep grub |
| 16:03.03 | shibboleth | oh |
| 16:03.18 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, dpkg -l | grep grub |
| 16:03.51 | bigMouthCommie | -common -firmware-qemu -pc -pc-bin -common |
| 16:03.57 | shibboleth | yes |
| 16:03.58 | bigMouthCommie | errr... 2-common |
| 16:04.06 | shibboleth | that is due to you installing debian in "mbr mode" |
| 16:04.09 | shibboleth | no biggie |
| 16:04.18 | shibboleth | you have working network inside the chroot? |
| 16:04.48 | bigMouthCommie | yes |
| 16:04.55 | shibboleth | apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed |
| 16:05.37 | bigMouthCommie | gotta run update... this will be a couple mins |
| 16:05.37 | shibboleth | this may prompt the installation of signed kenrel packages |
| 16:05.44 | shibboleth | which you want |
| 16:05.46 | shibboleth | ok |
| 16:06.33 | bigMouthCommie | told me to dpkg --configure -a |
| 16:06.44 | bigMouthCommie | so i am doing that |
| 16:07.23 | shibboleth | in the mean time: |
| 16:07.32 | shibboleth | add /dev/sda1 to fstab |
| 16:07.35 | shibboleth | as /boot/efi |
| 16:07.41 | shibboleth | inside the chroot |
| 16:08.03 | bigMouthCommie | i'm no good with fstab syntax... can you give me the line exactly? |
| 16:08.05 | shibboleth | UUID=1234-ABCD /boot/efi vfat noauto,umask=0077 0 1 |
| 16:08.11 | bigMouthCommie | omg. m a zing |
| 16:08.14 | shibboleth | blkid 7dev/sda1 |
| 16:09.00 | shibboleth | maybe you wanna remove "noauto" |
| 16:09.09 | shibboleth | so |
| 16:09.14 | shibboleth | UUID=1234-ABCD /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1 |
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| 16:10.12 | bigMouthCommie | so... your last line exactly? what's with the blkid line? |
| 16:10.22 | shibboleth | blkid /dev/sda1 |
| 16:10.31 | shibboleth | will output the uuid |
| 16:10.46 | shibboleth | UUID="1234-ABCD" /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1 |
| 16:11.00 | shibboleth | UUID=1234-ABCD /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1 |
| 16:11.09 | shibboleth | substitute the dummy UUID for yours |
| 16:11.26 | shibboleth | also: don't run with scissors |
| 16:11.50 | bigMouthCommie | aha. done |
| 16:11.53 | shibboleth | ok |
| 16:11.54 | bigMouthCommie | and the grub install |
| 16:11.57 | annadane | incidental question about fstab - must you use tabs or can you individually space it? |
| 16:11.59 | shibboleth | apt-get update has finished? |
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| 16:12.08 | bigMouthCommie | yea. |
| 16:12.14 | shibboleth | apt-get install grub-*** has finished? |
| 16:12.18 | bigMouthCommie | yep |
| 16:12.20 | shibboleth | ok |
| 16:12.32 | shibboleth | grub-install /dev/sda1 |
| 16:12.35 | mspe | annadane, both work |
| 16:13.07 | bigMouthCommie | installation finished. no error reported |
| 16:13.10 | shibboleth | good |
| 16:13.13 | shibboleth | update-grub2 |
| 16:13.36 | shibboleth | finsihed? |
| 16:13.38 | shibboleth | finihed |
| 16:13.42 | shibboleth | urgh |
| 16:13.45 | shibboleth | finished |
| 16:13.46 | bigMouthCommie | done |
| 16:13.50 | shibboleth | update-initramfs -u -k all |
| 16:14.17 | bigMouthCommie | generating |
| 16:14.32 | shibboleth | paste the output from the last three |
| 16:14.47 | shibboleth | install, update-grub2, update-initramfs |
| 16:14.53 | bigMouthCommie | last command still hanging |
| 16:14.57 | bigMouthCommie | oh done. |
| 16:14.58 | bigMouthCommie | :D |
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| 16:16.39 | shibboleth | paste? |
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| 16:17.03 | bigMouthCommie | http://paste.debian.net/1155121 |
| 16:17.25 | shibboleth | ok, also paste the output of efibootmgr |
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| 16:17.55 | bigMouthCommie | http://paste.debian.net/1155122 |
| 16:18.14 | shibboleth | lovely |
| 16:18.22 | shibboleth | now, a reboot should in theory land you in grub |
| 16:18.34 | shibboleth | but |
| 16:18.37 | shibboleth | first |
| 16:18.41 | shibboleth | do the following: |
| 16:18.53 | shibboleth | ctrl+d inside the terminal |
| 16:19.07 | bigMouthCommie | to kill chroot |
| 16:19.11 | shibboleth | you should now be outside the chroot |
| 16:19.13 | shibboleth | mhm |
| 16:19.18 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/boot/efi |
| 16:19.19 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/boot/ |
| 16:19.22 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/dev/pts |
| 16:19.24 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/dev/ |
| 16:19.26 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/proc |
| 16:19.28 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/sys |
| 16:19.30 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/ |
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| 16:19.55 | shibboleth | debhelper, turing test not passed |
| 16:20.01 | bigMouthCommie | shibboleth: /mnt/dev target is busy |
| 16:20.13 | shibboleth | unmount /mnt/dev/pts |
| 16:20.15 | shibboleth | first |
| 16:20.19 | bigMouthCommie | whoopz |
| 16:20.47 | bigMouthCommie | /mnt/sys target busy |
| 16:20.57 | shibboleth | could be efivars |
| 16:21.04 | shibboleth | no biggie |
| 16:21.07 | shibboleth | reboot |
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| 16:21.21 | mspe | or umoubt --lazy |
| 16:21.39 | mspe | s/b/n |
| 16:21.53 | bigMouthCommie | ok. i have efi boot, but win isn't listed |
| 16:22.02 | shibboleth | yeah, we won't bre breaking anything by not umounting first anyway |
| 16:22.09 | shibboleth | i know |
| 16:22.11 | shibboleth | boot debian |
| 16:22.15 | bigMouthCommie | onice. it's comin up |
| 16:22.38 | shibboleth | once booted, make sure /boot and /boot/efi is mounted |
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| 16:22.58 | shibboleth | ls -al /boot/efi/* |
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| 16:24.09 | shibboleth | and? |
| 16:24.40 | bigMouthCommie | sorry. i was waiting for autologin but i guess i did'nt config that.... now i'ts running me through first boot stuff (set up xfce panel etc...) |
| 16:24.55 | shibboleth | ah |
| 16:24.58 | shibboleth | anyway |
| 16:25.04 | shibboleth | once it's all set up, do the following: |
| 16:25.20 | shibboleth | make sure /boot and /boot/efi is mounted |
| 16:25.24 | bigMouthCommie | ls shows boot, debian and microsoft |
| 16:25.24 | shibboleth | sudo update-grub2 |
| 16:25.40 | shibboleth | there should be a line about finding bootmgr |
| 16:25.43 | shibboleth | paste output |
| 16:26.43 | bigMouthCommie | http://paste.debian.net/1155123 |
| 16:27.02 | shibboleth | alright |
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| 16:27.11 | shibboleth | now, you can either boot windows by selecting it in grub |
| 16:27.12 | shibboleth | OR |
| 16:27.18 | shibboleth | hammer f11 at bios splash |
| 16:27.27 | bigMouthCommie | dood |
| 16:27.29 | bigMouthCommie | you are amazing |
| 16:27.29 | shibboleth | and select windows boot manager isntead of debian |
| 16:27.37 | bigMouthCommie | i was PLANNING to run two new installs today |
| 16:27.43 | shibboleth | well, all my peers think i'm a fucking idiot |
| 16:27.47 | cleifer | mentioned the chromium package being f-d earlier. looks like 2 bug reports are already filed, #964161 and #964167 |
| 16:27.48 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/964161 in chromium (open): «chromium: high cpu load and frequent crashes»; severity: important; opened: 2020-07-02; last modified: 2020-07-04. |
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| 16:28.08 | bigMouthCommie | holy fuck i'm going to do a dance |
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| 16:28.33 | cleifer | at the bottom it mentions "No longer marked as found in versions chromium/83.0.4103.116-2" - does that mean it's been resolved? |
| 16:30.55 | shibboleth | like... with increasing frequency my interactions with other ppl give me the impression that either i'm an order of magnitude less intelligent than whatever rando i'm interacting with and can't make myself understood or vice versa |
| 16:31.27 | shibboleth | while, at the same time being able to what we just spent an hour on in two minutes flat while drunk |
| 16:31.45 | bigMouthCommie | shibboleth: we did have some problems communicating earlier. maybe it's just english syntax. |
| 16:31.47 | shibboleth | i blame cellhpnes and radiation |
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| 16:34.04 | bigMouthCommie | i know this is really off topic, but why did you say ew about my e525, shibboleth |
| 16:34.56 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, i wasn't referring to you. you're on irc and using linux |
| 16:35.02 | shibboleth | that's not the shallow end of the pool |
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| 16:35.58 | shibboleth | more like... i can't fucking buy shoes without ending up having to make a voodoo doll of the salesperson afterwards |
| 16:36.10 | shibboleth | bigMouthCommie, because |
| 16:36.22 | shibboleth | the e-series is.... thinkpad-ish |
| 16:36.55 | shibboleth | thinkpad= t-series, p-series (arguably w-series) |
| 16:37.08 | shibboleth | e-series is... well. whatever floats your boat |
| 16:37.11 | shibboleth | :) |
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| 16:41.14 | shibboleth | x-series if you *really* need a tiny screen+keyboard |
| 16:41.59 | shibboleth | like, the e-series came with 1366x768 panels |
| 16:42.04 | shibboleth | 'nuff said |
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| 16:54.11 | GGuest91 | shibboleth: |
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| 16:55.28 | shibboleth | yeah? |
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| 17:11.42 | MySecondNick | Hello guys! I am trying to install WINE (https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian) on my Debian 10 Buster. I need it for Lutris (https://lutris.net/downloads/). I am following the instructions on https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian and while trying to install the unmet dependencies packages I encountered some issues - namely libpango-1.0-0:i386 says that there are some unmet dependencies, but when I try to install all of them they are already |
| 17:11.42 | MySecondNick | installed. You can see the output log here: https://pastebin.com/iHNd4v78 An alternative I could do is install WINE from a Debian package (as explained here: https://wiki.debian.org/Wine). What is your suggestion? |
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| 17:13.03 | annadane | MySecondNick, you need libfaudio, you can see that on winehq's instructions |
| 17:13.28 | annadane | "The WineHQ packages for Debian 10 and later require libfaudio0 as a dependency. Since the distro does not provide it for Debian 10, users of that version can download libfaudio0 packages from the OBS. See https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192 for details." |
| 17:14.21 | annadane | now, i don't know about lutris, whether you strictly need the newer WINE or not |
| 17:14.31 | annadane | it's possible you can just install debian's |
| 17:14.43 | MySecondNick | annadane yes, this package that I tried to install (libpango-1.0-0:i386) was a dependency I needed for installing the libfaudio from the .deb file |
| 17:15.16 | MySecondNick | So my libfaudio had some unmet dependencies which led to libpango-1.0-0:i386 |
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| 17:16.02 | annadane | no, what you should do is download both amd64 and i386 versions of libfaudio and apt install /path/to/libfaudio/.versions.deb (note the period after the slash) and it should resolve the dependencies |
| 17:16.53 | annadane | alternatively, ask ##winehq, because i don't know whether you need the newest wine for lutris or not |
| 17:17.01 | annadane | sorry, #winehq |
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| 17:17.56 | MySecondNick | annadane I probably downloaded the wrong files then. From https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine:/Debian/Debian_10/ I downloaded the libfaudio0_20.01-0~buster_amd64.deb in amd64 folder and libfaudio0_20.01-0~buster_i386.deb in the i386 folder. What files do I need to download? |
| 17:18.05 | annadane | so if your file path is /home/MySecondNick/libfaudio-amd64.deb then apt install /home/MySecondNick/.libfaudio-amd64.deb |
| 17:18.24 | annadane | MySecondNick, no, that looks correct |
| 17:19.52 | annadane | you need to do it twice, for amd64 and i386 |
| 17:19.55 | MySecondNick | annadane I was in my Downloads folder and used this to install the amd64 version: sudo apt install ./libfaudio0_20.01-0~buster_amd64.deb |
| 17:19.57 | annadane | the apt install step |
| 17:20.12 | annadane | MySecondNick, try the i386 version first, then |
| 17:20.29 | annadane | and also make sure multiarch is enabled |
| 17:20.42 | annadane | i assume you already did dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt update |
| 17:21.00 | MySecondNick | annadane my dpkg --print-architecture prints only amd64 |
| 17:21.10 | MySecondNick | but I did the --add-architecture command |
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| 17:21.26 | annadane | okay, so apt update, and try with the i386 libfaudio first |
| 17:22.14 | MySecondNick | annadane so I have to delete libfaudio amd64 version first? How can I do that? |
| 17:22.41 | annadane | no, you probably don't need to remove any packages, as that one didn't install due to conflicting dependencies |
| 17:22.48 | annadane | just try with i386 and see if you run into any problems |
| 17:23.08 | MySecondNick | annadane yes, I run into dependency problems |
| 17:23.15 | MySecondNick | but my apt update also doesn't end cleanly |
| 17:23.25 | annadane | can you paste the output to paste.debian.net? |
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| 17:26.32 | MySecondNick | annadane here you go: http://paste.debian.net/1155126/ |
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| 17:27.53 | annadane | oh... um. |
| 17:28.18 | annadane | btw as a general rule, don't add PPAs to debian |
| 17:28.22 | annadane | that tends to break installs |
| 17:28.35 | MySecondNick | annadane so what do I have to do? |
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| 17:29.00 | annadane | well, i'm looking at it |
| 17:30.07 | annadane | i have i386 enabled and print-architecture also gives me 'amd64', so that's not the issue, you've done it with sudo |
| 17:31.40 | annadane | does anyone else have any ideas? i wonder if you might try apt install -f |
| 17:32.38 | annadane | ,v libavcodec58 |
| 17:32.39 | judd | Package: libavcodec58 on amd64 -- buster: 7:4.1.4-1~deb10u1; buster-security: 7:4.1.4-1~deb10u1; bullseye: 7:4.3-2; sid: 7:4.3-3; buster-multimedia: 10:4.1.5-dmo1+deb10u1; bullseye-multimedia: 10:4.3-dmo3; sid-multimedia: 10:4.3-dmo5 |
| 17:33.11 | annadane | ,v libsdl2-2.0-0 |
| 17:33.12 | judd | Package: libsdl2-2.0-0 on amd64 -- jessie: 2.0.2+dfsg1-6; jessie-security: 2.0.2+dfsg1-6+deb8u2; stretch: 2.0.5+dfsg1-2; buster: 2.0.9+dfsg1-1; bullseye: 2.0.12+dfsg1-1; sid: 2.0.12+dfsg1-1 |
| 17:34.27 | annadane | alternatively, see what happens if you try installing libsdl2-2.0-0, either amd64 or i386 (apt install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 to install from an arch other than amd64), sometimes the reason i386 packages won't install is because the corresponding amd64 package isn't installed and vice versa |
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| 17:34.45 | annadane | that seems like a weak point in the dependency chain you may be able to start from |
| 17:36.05 | MySecondNick | annadane I just asked on #lutris if it's OK to use WINE 4.0.2. (the default Debian 10 Buster version) |
| 17:36.07 | MySecondNick | ,v wine |
| 17:36.08 | judd | Package: wine on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.2-20; stretch: 1.8.7-2; stretch-backports: 4.0-2~bpo9+1; buster: 4.0-2; bullseye: 5.0-4; sid: 5.0-4 |
| 17:36.27 | MySecondNick | if that's OK, then I won't go through these torments |
| 17:36.43 | annadane | with a few PPA repos then that may also be a source of dependency issues |
| 17:36.44 | annadane | !ppa |
| 17:36.45 | dpkg | [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>. |
| 17:36.54 | annadane | !why not use a ppa |
| 17:36.54 | dpkg | PPAs (Ubuntu's Personal Package Archives, see <PPA>) are not built against Debian releases, they are built against Ubuntu releases. This makes using packages from them on a Debian box highly unlikely to work out well. Ask me about <ssb> <package recompile> <bobbitt>. |
| 17:37.04 | annadane | that's not really helpful, but anyway |
| 17:37.08 | jim | Hi, does someone have an understanding of how the kernel chooses a driver from a pci device with a pciid? |
| 17:37.57 | MySecondNick | annadane running "apt install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386" still runs into a dependency issue |
| 17:38.07 | MySecondNick | guess I'll wait for the guys at #lutris to respond |
| 17:38.11 | MySecondNick | thank you for your time annadane |
| 17:38.28 | annadane | winehq may also know the source of your issues |
| 17:38.53 | MySecondNick | annadane will check them out as well, thank you |
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| 17:53.26 | |Psych0| | I'm stuck on "scanning the mirror" during the install (deb.debian.org), I can ping it |
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| 17:54.43 | |Psych0| | First try I let it run for a hour, now I restarted the installation process and seems to be the same |
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| 18:00.50 | sney | |Psych0|: try a different mirror, deb.debian.org uses a cdn which might behave strangely on some connections. you can also press alt-f4 in the installer (ctrl-alt-f4 in the graphical interface) to see the info console for more specific errors |
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| 18:03.20 | |Psych0| | It never gave me issues in probably a hundreed of installs, but I'll try a different one anyways, thanks |
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| 18:13.31 | |Psych0| | yeah you are right, ftp.us worked, I've been using that mirror like forever, never had issues before |
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| 18:24.29 | archaeopter | Hello! I just installed debian 10.4 firmware and it doesnt start kde and it doesnt have usermod for me to even attempt to isntall something else. Help? |
| 18:25.07 | archaeopter | and startx is faulty too |
| 18:25.23 | archaeopter | Wtf? |
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| 18:27.58 | ectospasm | archaeopter: You sure usermod just isn't in your path? For me on Debian `type usermod` returns /usr/sbin/usermod |
| 18:28.35 | ectospasm | /usr/sbin probably isn't in your path |
| 18:28.38 | ectospasm | PATH variable |
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| 18:32.54 | archaeopter | What? |
| 18:33.30 | sney | !sbin |
| 18:33.30 | dpkg | Some binaries, particularly system utilities are installed to /sbin or /usr/sbin rather than /bin or /usr/bin. The former directories are not in a standard user's PATH. Try calling them directly, e.g. /sbin/ifconfig, or running them as root. |
| 18:33.37 | benyoo | I run su and now always when I login as root I type like its a textbox... can run any commands |
| 18:36.48 | archaeopter | forgot su |
| 18:36.49 | archaeopter | lol |
| 18:37.04 | benyoo | it was a mistake |
| 18:37.05 | archaeopter | thx |
| 18:37.05 | archaeopter | haha |
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| 18:53.03 | archaeopter | How is this bug not fixed lmao |
| 18:53.46 | sney | what bug? |
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| 18:59.06 | annadane | it's not a bug |
| 18:59.11 | annadane | it's just a difference in the way it behaves |
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| 19:01.05 | annadane | !su |
| 19:01.06 | dpkg | extra, extra read all about it, su is switch/set user. It is used to change User ID's and/or gain super user access. Since Debian Buster, "su -" or "su -l" is needed to access programs located in /sbin (see <buster su>). It provides an root environment as if the superuser had logged in directly. See "man su". |
| 19:01.19 | annadane | aww, the mini-rant was removed |
| 19:02.08 | ectospasm | su requires the root password, which may not always be set. |
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| 19:02.55 | annadane | oh, sorry. i can't read |
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| 19:11.49 | GGuest91 | su > sudo |
| 19:12.11 | GGuest91 | su -c "..." = sudo "..." |
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| 19:14.01 | benyoo | well but I can do anything if I game back to the server |
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| 19:15.14 | archaeopter | Bug where i install kde and am greeted by console |
| 19:15.49 | miskatonic | konsole? |
| 19:16.01 | sney | that sounds more like you didn't have a network connection during the install, so you just got the base system from the netinst |
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| 19:37.24 | archaeopter | I had the dvd and it was connected |
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| 19:38.05 | archaeopter | i just install lmde for my mom so she doesnt have to live with that bullshit |
| 19:38.09 | archaeopter | *installed |
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| 20:15.46 | Razva | is there any way to edit the network config while installing? I need to do a netinstall (can't install the DVD/CD version, only netinstall, because reasons) but I need to set the MTU in order for the network to work properly. |
| 20:17.35 | sney | you can get to a shell via (ctrl)alt-f2, I don't remember exactly which network tools are in the installer environment but it may be doable |
| 20:18.03 | sney | otherwise, using a livecd and debootstrap may be your best option |
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| 20:20.18 | nvz | Razva: it does that automatically |
| 20:20.28 | nvz | you cant NOT edit network config with a netinst |
| 20:21.00 | Razva | I need to set MTU to 1400, mandatory, while doing the install |
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| 20:31.05 | nvz | b |
| 20:31.18 | nvz | Razva: did you need to know how to do it specifically or was your qeustion answered with how to get a shell? |
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| 21:26.02 | JustTheDoctor | is there a sha256 command (not sha256sum |
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| 21:29.22 | misterhat | what's wrong with sha256sum JustTheDoctor |
| 21:29.26 | misterhat | what do you want it to do |
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| 21:30.00 | JustTheDoctor | im following a tutorial type thing and it says to do sha256 "Text Here" to get a string and when i do i get "Text Here" no such file or folder |
| 21:30.21 | JustTheDoctor | err when i do sha256sum * |
| 21:31.18 | misterhat | echo "content" | sha256sum |
| 21:31.25 | misterhat | or run it without arguments, type in the content and press ctrl + d |
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| 21:35.04 | JustTheDoctor | oh ok |
| 21:36.59 | JustTheDoctor | that worked, is there a command pubkey? |
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| 21:53.23 | metbsd | debian testing |
| 21:53.33 | metbsd | amdgpu screen tearing |
| 21:53.37 | metbsd | is there a fix |
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| 22:04.06 | annadane | !tell metbsd about debian-next |
| 22:04.09 | annadane | or look into compton |
| 22:04.15 | annadane | ,i compton |
| 22:04.18 | judd | Package compton (x11, optional) in buster/amd64: compositor for X11, based on xcompmgr. Version: 0.1~beta2+20150922-1; Size: 97.4k; Installed: 264k; Homepage: https://github.com/chjj/compton; O: #960779 |
| 22:04.23 | annadane | hard to say without knowing your setup |
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| 23:11.26 | Razva | nvz edited the file now I just need to find out how to restart the network service, because systemctl doesn't works |
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| 23:12.48 | Razva | also init.d doesn't exists |
| 23:14.53 | Razva | also I can't find anything useful Googling so...any hint would be highly appreciated.. |
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| 23:26.06 | Trieste | hi, I somehow (dpkg -i /var/apt/cache/*.deb) got my system into a state where `apt upgrade` refuses to do anything, `apt dist-upgrade` suggests removing most packages on my system including essential ones, and aptitude just seems to get stuck resolving without end. |
| 23:26.22 | Trieste | I'm a bit at a loss at how to proceed now, any pointers? |
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| 23:29.32 | karlpinc | !bat |
| 23:29.33 | dpkg | [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 23:31.13 | Trieste | thanks, just a moment |
| 23:34.26 | Trieste | https://paste.debian.net/1155164/ |
| 23:35.05 | Trieste | and https://paste.debian.net/1155165/ |
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| 23:37.19 | Trieste | finally https://paste.debian.net/1155166/ |
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| 23:44.40 | Trieste | oh and the output of dpkg --configure -a https://paste.debian.net/1155167/ |
| 23:48.54 | AndreasLutro | seems most likely to me that your weird mix of repos in /etc/apt/sources is the root cause |
| 23:49.38 | Trieste | what's weird about it? |
| 23:50.25 | Trieste | it's all buster/stable, right? |
| 23:50.25 | AndreasLutro | you have deb.kaliko.me and ftp.cvut.cz in addition to security.debian.org - they might not be correct or up to date |
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| 23:51.02 | AndreasLutro | I would remove them all and put in the stock debian sources to see if that helps |
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| 23:51.42 | Trieste | on it |
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| 23:54.04 | Trieste | hm, no, aptitude seems to rack up less conflicts, but it still doesn't resolve and `apt-get -f install` still wants to remove essential packages... should I post the new logs? |
| 23:54.38 | AndreasLutro | :/ |
| 23:54.55 | AndreasLutro | you can do it just in case but that's the only idea I had. if I were you I'd nuke it and start from scratch |
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| 23:56.13 | Trieste | heh |
| 23:56.24 | Trieste | it does look like it, huh |
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| 23:58.19 | Trieste | well, I think I better let the people at https://askubuntu.com/questions/266450/how-to-fix-e-internal-error-no-file-name-for-libc6 know that it's not terribly good advice |