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| 00:06.28 | rant | while I approve of using my #dsm terms, that doesnt answer that question near as I can tell |
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| 00:29.55 | overyander | is there a way to install python 3.7 without compiling it from source? everything i'm finding online is instructions on compiling python. |
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| 00:35.43 | violentE | holly shit I'm so dumb, I rm -rf everything in my home directory! please advise |
| 00:35.56 | somiaj | overyander: is this on stretch? What do you need python 3.7 for? |
| 00:36.26 | overyander | it's on raspbian. |
| 00:36.33 | klys | https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/p/python3.7/ |
| 00:36.39 | somiaj | well this is not the channel to ask about raspbian |
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| 00:36.43 | somiaj | !raspbian |
| 00:36.43 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 00:36.54 | Amazonka98 | I will start my Live Show in 10 minutes. Check my sexy body, ass, boobs and pussy. Fastest people will join my Private Live for FREE (First 5 only that message me "Free Invite" in the Cam site)! The fun is GUARANTEED. Join now ---> https://hec.su/g1iX |
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| 00:40.16 | foul_owl | live cd boots to a black screen |
| 00:40.26 | foul_owl | is there a fallback option? |
| 00:40.47 | somiaj | foul_owl: you can try to boot with the nomodeset parameter. But first how did you copy the live image to your usb? |
| 00:41.01 | foul_owl | With dd |
| 00:41.15 | pinkboots | Master Manipulators - https://www.bitchute.com/video/jDIm1UwUAZlk/ - here's a top rabbi telling it like it is. |
| 00:41.23 | somiaj | and you copyied to the drive sdX not the first partition sdx1? |
| 00:41.27 | foul_owl | Yes |
| 00:41.54 | foul_owl | How would the copying method affect how the live cd handles video output? |
| 00:41.57 | somiaj | anyways depending on the video card, try the nomodeset and i915.modeset=0 (for intel cards). This will turn off modesetting, it can get it to boot, but you may have software rendering. |
| 00:42.11 | foul_owl | software mode is ok! |
| 00:42.17 | foul_owl | I just want to get *some* output |
| 00:42.28 | somiaj | tools like ubootbin (orwhaterver) magnle the images, so I like to double check. |
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| 00:43.21 | foul_owl | Interesting! I did not know that |
| 00:43.24 | foul_owl | Thank you! |
| 00:43.50 | somiaj | usually they mess up something (black screen is more likely modesetting and gpu) but always like to double check. What gpu is on the system you are using? |
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| 00:44.30 | foul_owl | It's a geforce |
| 00:44.36 | foul_owl | But it has a built in card on the mobo |
| 00:44.42 | Psi-Jack | How many G's you pulling there? ;) |
| 00:44.51 | foul_owl | Will the live cd pick the correct output that my monitor is attached |
| 00:44.54 | foul_owl | 0 gs |
| 00:44.57 | foul_owl | lol |
| 00:45.09 | foul_owl | Or do I have to manually try each port? |
| 00:45.15 | foul_owl | Is it expected that I would have to try each port? |
| 00:45.56 | somiaj | what gfroce (how new)? might be some issue with optimus and intel+nvidia mix. So add those nomodeset and i915.modeset=0 parameters to your boot |
| 00:46.08 | foul_owl | Thank you! Both params? |
| 00:46.18 | somiaj | unsure, with optimus, it might only be using the intel card, so make sure you use the intel port. |
| 00:46.31 | somiaj | you may be able to disable the nvidia card in the firwmare/bios too. |
| 00:46.32 | somiaj | yes both |
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| 00:49.10 | foul_owl | Thank you! |
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| 00:50.25 | somiaj | hopefully that is enough to get the live image to boot, Unsure about the details with optimus. Also once there are buster live images, maybe try that, some times a newer kernel helps out a lot (4.9 is a bit old for some hardware) |
| 00:51.44 | foul_owl | It's absurd how hard it is to just get to a shell now...never had this issue before systemd |
| 00:52.10 | foul_owl | But anyways thank you i'll try this |
| 00:52.37 | somiaj | most likely isn't systemd, it is the hardware/kernel |
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| 00:55.31 | user | hey guys, I'm a bit hung up. I need to reinstall my EFI bootloader. I'm in a debian live ISO right now. I think I can probably chroot in and repair it? |
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| 00:55.56 | somiaj | !fixmbr |
| 00:55.56 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 00:56.09 | somiaj | just make sure you are botted using efi on the live image. |
| 00:56.31 | magic_ninja | I am. I have legacy disabled. |
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| 00:58.15 | magic_ninja | !lvm2 |
| 00:58.15 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:59.18 | magic_ninja | okay, so I have found my /root /boot directories |
| 00:59.32 | magic_ninja | the /root is on an LVM and the /boot/efi is on /dev/sdc1 |
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| 01:13.10 | magic_ninja | lets see how this goes now. I got chrooted in. |
| 01:13.21 | magic_ninja | Last time I couldn't get grub-install to work. |
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| 01:16.58 | magic_ninja | alright i'm going to reboot |
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| 01:23.03 | magic_ninja | okay so I have a grub menu now, but I only have one entry |
| 01:23.21 | magic_ninja_brok | It is an entry that sends me to bios |
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| 01:26.34 | User66642069 | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 01:26.38 | User66642069 | lol |
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| 01:30.19 | magic_ninja_brok | !fixmbr |
| 01:30.20 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 01:34.03 | jmcnaught | magic_ninja_brok: debian installer images have a rescue mode you can select from the boot menu, and that has a fairly automated GRUB reinstall option. |
| 01:34.24 | magic_ninja_brok | jmcnaught, I couldn't find it on the install I have. I kinda saw something for that. |
| 01:34.41 | magic_ninja_brok | jmcnaught, anywho, I got the grub menu back, it just wasn't properly populated. |
| 01:35.12 | jmcnaught | magic_ninja_brok: I think rescue is under advanced, it's been a while⦠|
| 01:35.35 | magic_ninja_brok | grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdd1. Check your device.map. |
| 01:35.45 | magic_ninja_brok | Okay, so that sdd is my boot flash disk |
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| 01:41.21 | magic_ninja_brok | yea, the probe in update-grub keeps failing because it is looking for /dev/sdd when it should be ignoring it |
| 01:41.31 | magic_ninja_brok | I tried removing it from the device.map but that didn't work. |
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| 01:49.56 | Lokimon | hey, does anyone know how i can make a squashfs frugal install of debian? |
| 01:50.05 | Lokimon | i cant find any guide online |
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| 01:54.27 | foul_owl | How do i disable a service from booting on a disk that i've mounted from a live cd? |
| 01:54.56 | magic_ninja | foul_owl, if you mounted that disk from a live cd, there wont' be any "services" running on it |
| 01:55.14 | foul_owl | Exactly |
| 01:55.16 | magic_ninja | Can you be a bit more specific? |
| 01:55.45 | foul_owl | I am attempting to rescue a system via live cd |
| 01:55.57 | foul_owl | syslog shows a bad service when trying to boot |
| 01:56.10 | foul_owl | I want to disable this service for the disk I am attempting to rescue |
| 01:56.28 | magic_ninja | go into the systemd unit and disable the service |
| 01:56.33 | magic_ninja | just a sec, let me google it. |
| 01:56.50 | foul_owl | Ahhh ok sorry didn't know that |
| 01:57.09 | magic_ninja | looks like when you enable a systemd service it puts a symlink in /etc/systemd/system |
| 01:57.16 | magic_ninja | now that I see that I remember. |
| 01:57.22 | magic_ninja | Do you know the name of the service? |
| 01:57.46 | magic_ninja | Mount your disk in live cd --> go into /etc/systemd/system and delete the symlink that is for your service. |
| 01:57.52 | foul_owl | Perfect! Should be as easy as nuking a symlink then :) |
| 01:57.54 | foul_owl | Thank you :) |
| 01:58.00 | magic_ninja | Good luck! |
| 01:58.13 | foul_owl | The service is pia-daemon |
| 01:58.21 | foul_owl | Helping a friend with this, I don't use that |
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| 02:05.50 | magic_ninja | okay, so how about this instead? How can I manually boot my system with the grub command prompt THEN go ahead and update |
| 02:09.50 | somiaj | I think you can tell what target to boot, so you could boot into a target with less services. But without having some sort of peristance to change the live system, won't be able to disable services. |
| 02:10.18 | somiaj | live systems I don't think are as easy as just mounting something. They are often an isofs which cannot be altered. |
| 02:10.25 | magic_ninja | somiaj, I believe OP was wanting to use a live environment to stop a service that was keeping the system from booting. |
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| 02:10.46 | somiaj | ahh in that case, that would work, can also use systemctl in a chroot too I think |
| 02:14.39 | magic_ninja | I'll be back |
| 02:14.56 | magic_ninja | I just copied refind over to my chroot into my main system and ran it. Perhaps it will work now |
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| 02:24.29 | magic_ninja | okay, so it didn't work |
| 02:24.35 | magic_ninja | Still have the blank grub menu |
| 02:24.44 | magic_ninja | Just has an entry that links to bios |
| 02:24.51 | magic_ninja | well, to the system setup |
| 02:25.00 | ksk | what are you trying to do? installing linux on a recent mac? |
| 02:26.25 | magic_ninja | anyway, anyone have a link to a testing boot iso? |
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| 02:28.18 | magic_ninja | i moved a hard drive and it pooched the efi stuff |
| 02:28.40 | ksk | magic_ninja: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 02:29.00 | ksk | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso for amd64-netinst, more are available. |
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| 02:29.56 | magic_ninja | does it have a live environment? |
| 02:30.17 | ksk | netinstall? nope. |
| 02:30.30 | ksk | cd and dvd should have, I suppose. |
| 02:30.31 | magic_ninja | it has to have one. |
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| 02:33.26 | magic_ninja | I'm thinking this one will: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-standard.iso |
| 02:33.36 | magic_ninja | Honestly, I expected to have to fight this today. |
| 02:34.25 | magic_ninja | I tried to get prepared before hand, but a couple people said to "just try it", however it seems efi can just remove stuff on its own if the disks move. |
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| 02:35.15 | Always_H0rny | You want to look at mе without clothes, sweetie (EXCLUSIVE FREE FOR NEXT 3 PEOPLE!!) ;-) follow the link and add me as a friend -----------> http://qt.ms/paFFFTS |
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| 02:38.37 | OS-Omar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.08 | Krennic | lol |
| 02:42.53 | OS-Omar | yes |
| 02:43.04 | ksk | happend to some of us ;) |
| 02:43.13 | ksk | enjoy the spam though. |
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| 02:43.48 | ksk | ps: try to insert such commands at the irc "status window" next time - this way you cannot accidentially pass on your stuff (password..) to a channel. |
| 02:44.12 | OS-Omar | willl do thanks |
| 02:44.24 | OS-Omar | its not my password anyway |
| 02:44.33 | OS-Omar | so its okay |
| 02:44.49 | risingtide | Can anybody advise on installing mysql on debian? |
| 02:45.23 | risingtide | I try sudo apt-get install mysql-server and it returns a dependency issue with dpkg |
| 02:45.44 | introom | does there exist a more `sid' like version where packages are more up to date? |
| 02:46.17 | risingtide | I beleive I have installed apper |
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| 02:47.16 | magic_ninja | risingtide, do you just need mysql or do you want sqlite |
| 02:47.58 | magic_ninja | try "sudo apt-cache search mysql" and see what you get |
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| 02:48.38 | User66642069 | Hi all, I'm a relatively new Linux user. I am having an issue I can't figure out where my Debian Stretch system is not booting. I am currently running a live session of Ubuntu to talk to reach out for help. Here is the basic info about my problem: My disk is encrypted with Luks. When I boot, I make it to the prompt to decrpyt my disk in this case sda5. I enter my passcode and then I get cryptsetup (sda5_crypt): set up successfully, |
| 02:48.38 | User66642069 | but then it hangs there. The last thing I did was generate an xorg.conf file to fix a screen tearing issue. I removed the xorg.conf file from this live session and still have the same failure to boot. I have my syslog in a pastebin if that helps you, but please give me directions what you need to help me with this issue. |
| 02:48.45 | risingtide | I need mysql not mysqllite |
| 02:48.54 | risingtide | phpBB and esotalk |
| 02:49.29 | risingtide | https://pastebin.com/mREYLj2t |
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| 02:49.38 | risingtide | this is what I get just trying apt install |
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| 02:50.59 | magic_ninja | risingtide, https://askubuntu.com/questions/223237/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages |
| 02:51.18 | magic_ninja | that shows you how to get those packages, install them, then install mysql-server |
| 02:51.24 | jmcnaught | risingtide: mysql has been replaced with mariadb in debian 9 |
| 02:51.52 | risingtide | https://pastebin.com/V6vuHm4Q |
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| 02:52.00 | risingtide | that's my apt-cache putput |
| 02:52.05 | risingtide | output* |
| 02:52.19 | risingtide | ah |
| 02:52.26 | risingtide | no way to downgrade? |
| 02:52.44 | risingtide | or make Flarium/Esotalk work with MariaDB? |
| 02:52.54 | risingtide | possibly mongodb? |
| 02:53.14 | risingtide | I will hop onto a different channel if need be to answer that |
| 02:54.18 | jmcnaught | risingtide: are you sure that phpbb and esotalk don't work with mariadb? It's a fork of mysql, supposed to be a drop-in replacement. |
| 02:56.22 | risingtide | hmmm...will try MariaDB |
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| 02:57.35 | risingtide | okay thanks I will have to try tomorrow |
| 02:57.39 | risingtide | thanks for the help! |
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| 02:59.46 | flames_at_dawn | Hi all, I have a non-booting Debian stretch installation. Anyone able to help? I can't identify the problem and have tried googling everything I could think of. I note that the timestamps in my syslog are wrong--they are 8 hours fast. Syslong pastebin: https://pastebin.com/3BQZJtDM |
| 03:01.08 | magic_ninja | flames_at_dawn, looks like your booting okay, you just can't get to a GUI |
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| 03:02.17 | flames_at_dawn | Interseting! What I experience is a hang after I get confirmation that my luks encrypted disk sda_5 is successfully unlocked |
| 03:03.08 | flames_at_dawn | I attempted to follow a guide to get steam running before the problem occurred. |
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| 03:05.31 | flames_at_dawn | My guess is that I messed up my nvidia video driver somehow with that guide. Do you know if it is possible to uninstall and reinstall video drivers in my system from a live USB stick session? I am currently using a live ubuntu session to talk to you guys |
| 03:06.47 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: from your paste I see lightdm.service failing to start, I would look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log next. |
| 03:08.22 | flames_at_dawn | Thank you. Here's that in pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LRu26tKd |
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| 03:11.06 | magic_ninja | is glad he bought a 10-pack of 32GB sd cards |
| 03:11.23 | dvs | O_O |
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| 03:12.06 | magic_ninja | I've been trying to repair a testing install with a stretch boot disk |
| 03:12.11 | magic_ninja | I'm wondering if part of my issue isn't that. |
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| 03:16.32 | magic_ninja | I guess worst-case scenario is that if I have to do a reinstall, all of my configurations and such are still in my /home directory |
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| 03:17.44 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: you were using the nvidia proprietary driver? I see no mention of it in your Xorg.0.log. What was the guide you were following that messed it all up? |
| 03:19.06 | flames_at_dawn | I was using nvidia proprietary drivers, yes. This is the guide I followed that may have messed things up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSlTMEmUOBs |
| 03:20.43 | flames_at_dawn | I feel like I may have made a mistake by installing bumblebee. I do have two graphics adapters listed (mobo intel integrated and geforce gtx970), so I followed that part of the recommendations in the guide. |
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| 03:22.25 | magic_ninja | okay so wish me luck |
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| 03:25.37 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: those instructions don't look that bad. There's also https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee on the wiki. Are you using a kernel from backports? |
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| 03:27.04 | flames_at_dawn | No, I don't believe I am using a kernel from backports. Let me check kernel version |
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| 03:28.43 | jmcnaught | !chroot |
| 03:28.43 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
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| 03:30.14 | flames_at_dawn | jmcnaught: Sorry, I am having a hard time figuring out what my kernel version is in the non-booting Debian installation. Guidence? |
| 03:30.29 | chocolate | why does debian almost freezes at the desktop screen using xfce debian 9 at a intel core quad Q6600? |
| 03:31.05 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: do you have a chroot set up like in the factoid above ^? |
| 03:31.24 | chocolate | feels like kali linux and all the mallware shit inside it |
| 03:31.57 | chocolate | was debian sold for big corporations? |
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| 03:33.02 | flames_at_dawn | jmcnaught: I have the rive mounted. I din't know about chroot before. I am reading documentation about it now |
| 03:33.13 | flames_at_dawn | **I have the drive mounted in my live session |
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| 03:33.21 | user | grr turns out this ISO i downloaded is terminal only |
| 03:33.59 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: if you want to reinstall the nvidia drivers from the live boot you'll need to chroot your debian installation. |
| 03:34.17 | flames_at_dawn | ok, I can read about how to do that |
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| 03:35.29 | flames_at_dawn | Can I do it from an Ubuntu live session? My debian live USB stick is not functional on this hardware for whatever reason (it works on my laptop) |
| 03:35.55 | chocolate | thinking to migrate to freebsd |
| 03:36.04 | chocolate | anyone interested in the topic? |
| 03:36.41 | user | !chroot |
| 03:36.42 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
| 03:37.08 | user | flames_at_dawn: I think you could probably get away with doing it in a terminal from an Ubuntu install |
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| 03:37.39 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: the Ubuntu live session should be fine for a chroot |
| 03:38.38 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: alternatively you could boot the system into multi-user.target instead of graphical.target and work on the terminal |
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| 03:39.17 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: is this a laptop with optimus? |
| 03:41.15 | flames_at_dawn | no |
| 03:41.30 | flames_at_dawn | it is not |
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| 03:45.03 | flames_at_dawn | The mount commands fail for me with "mount point does not exist" |
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| 03:52.23 | flames_at_dawn | !chroot |
| 03:52.23 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
| 03:54.39 | flames_at_dawn | How do I access the "other console" referred to be dpkg in Ubuntu? |
| 03:55.08 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: you don't need bumblebee if it's not an optimus laptop |
| 03:55.31 | flames_at_dawn | yes, I want to uninstall it. I have to chroot for that too, right? |
| 03:55.33 | user | flames_at_dawn: if you look on the net there is a for loop that makes mounting your device filesystems a piece of cake |
| 03:55.36 | jmcnaught | probably "ctrl+alt+f3" |
| 03:56.08 | user | emmanuel-galindo.github.io |
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| 03:56.40 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: you can just do the chroot in a terminal emulator window, it doesn't have to be from a console |
| 03:56.50 | flames_at_dawn | ok |
| 03:58.44 | flames_at_dawn | What mount point do you recomment to replace "target?" |
| 03:58.57 | user | So I'm in grub here, on a buster system, chrooted in, and I'm really having a hard time repairing this EFI boot |
| 03:59.58 | flames_at_dawn | jmcnaught: Anything I try gives "mount point does not exist" |
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| 04:00.49 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: what partition is your debian install on? |
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| 04:01.38 | flames_at_dawn | sda5 |
| 04:01.44 | flames_at_dawn | currently it reads as dm-1 |
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| 04:03.57 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: don't you already have the debian system mounted? you don't need to mount it again. |
| 04:04.17 | flames_at_dawn | jmcnaught, I jsut mounted it in gui. is that good enough? |
| 04:05.48 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: yes, you'll do the chroot wherver it's mounted, probably something like /media/flames/foobar |
| 04:06.11 | flames_at_dawn | thanks |
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| 04:08.28 | flames_at_dawn | ok, chroot appears to have worked. |
| 04:09.26 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: you did the additional mount commands for /dev /proc and /sys as well? |
| 04:09.37 | flames_at_dawn | yes |
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| 04:11.03 | _Random_ | how to send an img via command line to a paste bin ? |
| 04:11.11 | _Random_ | thanks in advance |
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| 04:14.54 | flames_at_dawn | jmcnaught: I uninstalled bumblebee and I am currently following the reinstall procedure for nvidia drivers through that terminal. Thank you for your help! After I do that, do you have any other suggestions that might help me boot successfully? |
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| 04:15.45 | jmcnaught | flames_at_dawn: watch the output carefully when installing the nvidia drivers, make sure you don't see messaged about DKMS failing to compile modules |
| 04:18.00 | flames_at_dawn | ok |
| 04:19.35 | user | why is there no rescue mode on any of these debian installers i'm downloading? |
| 04:19.45 | user | No advanced menu either. It is either install or boot into a live cd |
| 04:20.16 | jmcnaught | user: are you downloading live images, or installer images? |
| 04:20.45 | user | jmcnaught: I think they called them "hybrid" images |
| 04:21.00 | user | A live image with an installer. |
| 04:23.25 | flames_at_dawn | !chroot |
| 04:23.25 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
| 04:23.32 | jmcnaught | user: netinst definitely has a rescue mode. Installer images are not the same as live images, use an installer image. |
| 04:25.22 | user | I'm so close darnit. The only thing I can't figure out is how to make the grub tools ignore my removable drives. They see them and then fail |
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| 04:36.32 | user | There we go. Now we are making some progress. Lets hope this works :) |
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| 04:38.24 | user | turns out there is no problem with just unplugging the flash drive while you run grub-update |
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| 04:56.23 | Mocasino | hello |
| 04:58.27 | Mocasino | can you package i3-gaps for debian? there is a bug open nearly from a year ago |
| 04:58.33 | Mocasino | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909646 |
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| 04:58.52 | Mocasino | nearly every non-debian distro has it in its main repository |
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| 05:09.19 | Kobaz | is there a snapshot for backports? |
| 05:09.25 | Kobaz | W: Failed to fetch http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20180913T1700000Z/dists/jessie/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 185.17.185.185 80] |
| 05:09.50 | Kobaz | er whoops, meant to paste W: Failed to fetch http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20180913T1700000Z/dists/jessie-backports/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 185.17.185.185 80] |
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| 05:12.26 | EdePopede | Mocasino: 3849 unclassified whishlist items on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=wnpp so i think it may take some time especially since buster is about to get ready |
| 05:12.45 | Kobaz | oh |
| 05:12.52 | Kobaz | i had an extra digit in time |
| 05:13.36 | Mocasino | EdePopede, can i package and maintain that package? |
| 05:13.51 | Mocasino | i build it anyway, i might as well maintain it for debian |
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| 05:14.24 | Mocasino | i have packaged deb files in the past and have experience with build packages for arch/gentoo/exherbo |
| 05:14.54 | EdePopede | !packaging |
| 05:14.54 | dpkg | See http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers for information on how to package for Debian. Also ask me about <nmg> <package basics> <policy> <mentors> and <best practices>. |
| 05:15.05 | EdePopede | maybe this can bring in some light |
| 05:16.32 | EdePopede | Kobaz: does it work now? |
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| 05:17.53 | _CM_ | I need help with something I am new to debian...... I was a ubuntu user anyways I just installed dropbox and I forgot what I did to install it.... I think just installing snaps causes it to show up under software center doesnt it? |
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| 05:27.51 | magic_ninja | for the love of jebus I'm back |
| 05:27.57 | _CM_ | lol |
| 05:28.50 | Kobaz | jebubbles |
| 05:30.05 | _CM_ | does anyone know? |
| 05:30.17 | _CM_ | I dont think dbox is a snap |
| 05:30.25 | _CM_ | I know telegram is..... |
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| 05:32.12 | EdePopede | _CM_: i've seen software center in a wiki, but the link to the debian site leads to nowhere |
| 05:32.26 | _CM_ | EdePopede: yeah |
| 05:32.29 | EdePopede | and about dropbox, did you maybe dl the client from their site? |
| 05:32.37 | _CM_ | tried that the .deb doesnt work |
| 05:32.41 | _CM_ | and I forgot what I did |
| 05:32.58 | _CM_ | EdePopede: thats why im trying to piece it together so I can write it down lol |
| 05:32.59 | EdePopede | `dpkg -i $pck` maybe |
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| 05:33.35 | _CM_ | EdePopede: chris@Optiplex:~$ sudo `dpkg -i $pck` |
| 05:33.36 | _CM_ | dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege |
| 05:33.36 | _CM_ | usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -V |
| 05:33.36 | _CM_ | usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-u user] |
| 05:33.36 | _CM_ | usage: sudo -l [-AknS] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-U user] [-u user] [command] |
| 05:33.36 | _CM_ | usage: sudo [-AbEHknPS] [-r role] [-t type] [-C num] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-u user] |
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| 05:33.37 | dpkg | no idea, _CM_ |
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| 05:33.46 | _CM_ | chris@Optiplex:~$ |
| 05:33.50 | EdePopede | you can request the db with `dpkg-query -S $(which name_of_binary_here)` |
| 05:33.59 | EdePopede | !paste |
| 05:34.00 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 05:34.34 | EdePopede | s/request/consult/ |
| 05:34.48 | _CM_ | EdePopede: chris@Optiplex:~$ sudo `dpkg-query -S dropbox |
| 05:34.48 | _CM_ | > |
| 05:34.51 | _CM_ | nothing happens |
| 05:34.53 | _CM_ | I just get a > |
| 05:35.52 | EdePopede | _CM_: not what may be the package name, the -S option needs the complete path to the file (in this case the executable would be fine) |
| 05:36.20 | EdePopede | and you have the '`' from in front of the command in your line, that's why |
| 05:37.09 | _CM_ | EdePopede: okay I got a menu of stuff |
| 05:37.32 | EdePopede | menu of stuff? |
| 05:37.42 | _CM_ | oh no it says its nautilus dropbox |
| 05:38.41 | _CM_ | EdePopede: https://imgur.com/a/m7t153m |
| 05:39.44 | _CM_ | but the only dropboxes that come up under discovery is caja dropbox and nautilus |
| 05:39.46 | _CM_ | im on KDE |
| 05:40.43 | EdePopede | _CM_: how do you use the client? is it a GUI with a starter button on your desktop? |
| 05:40.48 | _CM_ | yes |
| 05:41.00 | _CM_ | I have an icon for DB |
| 05:41.20 | EdePopede | do you know where it is located? what is the binary (or main script in case it is one)? |
| 05:41.54 | _CM_ | '/usr/share/applications' |
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| 05:43.16 | EdePopede | that's just the directory with the .desktop file, but that one has a line beginning with 'Exec=', what is the path there? (usually near the end of the file) |
| 05:43.43 | _CM_ | EdePopede: where do you find that? |
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| 05:44.54 | EdePopede | oh, the easiest method may be to right click the starter and look for the command in the dialog that should be available for editing in the context menu |
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| 05:45.40 | _CM_ | dropbox start -i |
| 05:46.17 | EdePopede | ok, so it is in your path. now this should tell you were: which dropbox |
| 05:46.34 | _CM_ | oh |
| 05:46.46 | _CM_ | it doesnt |
| 05:46.47 | EdePopede | erm. where, not were |
| 05:47.16 | EdePopede | so it doesn't start when you use the starter? |
| 05:47.27 | _CM_ | yes using dropbox -i |
| 05:48.05 | _CM_ | https://imgur.com/a/czq640b |
| 05:49.02 | EdePopede | _CM_: can you use this command from the shell? |
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| 05:50.19 | _CM_ | https://imgur.com/a/n76Oxgl |
| 05:51.46 | EdePopede | ok. so it is there. and now this one should tell you about the package: dpkg-query -S $(which dropbox) |
| 05:51.53 | EdePopede | (you're using bash?) |
| 05:52.22 | _CM_ | yes konsole |
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| 05:53.00 | _CM_ | nautilus-dropbox:/usr/share/nautilus-dropbox/emblems/emblem-dropbox-uptodate.icon |
| 05:53.09 | EdePopede | ah, so that's the package |
| 05:53.09 | _CM_ | ugh nautilus |
| 05:53.14 | _CM_ | ah |
| 05:53.28 | _CM_ | debian is so hard :( |
| 05:53.38 | _CM_ | i'm use to ubuntu.. But I wanted to give debian a try |
| 05:53.54 | EdePopede | just as a sidenote, `dpkg-query -L $packagename` gives you the filelist of a package, should you need the opposite ;) |
| 05:54.00 | EdePopede | good idea |
| 05:54.02 | _CM_ | oo |
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| 05:54.44 | _CM_ | EdePopede: debian is not as easy as I thought it would be |
| 05:54.52 | EdePopede | it's just different and has a lot to offer, you may need some time to get through the jungle |
| 05:54.52 | _CM_ | I thought if I knew ubuntu i'd know Deb.... nope |
| 05:55.01 | _CM_ | EdePopede: oh yea? |
| 05:55.11 | EdePopede | !debian based |
| 05:55.11 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 05:55.29 | _CM_ | im on deb 9 |
| 05:55.39 | _CM_ | I thought it would be as easy as Ubuntu but its not |
| 05:55.43 | EdePopede | there's a reason why this specific erm... whatever they call those things, forgot it xD... exists |
| 05:56.00 | _CM_ | lol |
| 05:56.06 | EdePopede | depends, what do you find harder than in ubuntu? |
| 05:56.13 | _CM_ | installing telegram and dropbox |
| 05:56.17 | _CM_ | its so easy in ubuntu |
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| 05:56.25 | EdePopede | how do you do it there? |
| 05:56.38 | _CM_ | load the telegram ppa in |
| 05:56.46 | _CM_ | then sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop |
| 05:56.52 | _CM_ | and for dropbox I just download the .deb |
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| 05:57.18 | _CM_ | but for some reason debian wont let me use the dropbox .deb file |
| 05:57.32 | EdePopede | ppa, you gotta be careful with those things, even in ubuntu afaik. used the things suse has years ago, nothing broke, but that 3rd party thing wasn't set up really perfect |
| 05:57.43 | _CM_ | ohhh |
| 05:58.04 | EdePopede | !sources |
| 05:58.04 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 05:58.44 | EdePopede | that's how you do things in debian. add the repos you need to the list and used some apt stuff or a package manager with a GUI |
| 05:58.58 | _CM_ | I had to do that for the non files |
| 05:59.08 | _CM_ | the crap cant think of what its called the closed source apps |
| 05:59.13 | EdePopede | and if you're used to apt-get install, then it's even the same |
| 05:59.20 | _CM_ | I had to add 3 lines to sources |
| 05:59.22 | _CM_ | yes I am |
| 06:00.14 | EdePopede | btw, you should be careful with installing .debs from the web into package manager land. you might delete something. |
| 06:00.22 | _CM_ | oops |
| 06:00.32 | _CM_ | well it wouldnt launch anyways |
| 06:00.37 | _CM_ | clicking on it did nothing |
| 06:01.47 | EdePopede | dig - DNS lookup utility <-- the binary is /usr/bin dig. now imagine you download a game with the same name, guess what the name of the program may be and where it usually will be located |
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| 06:02.22 | _CM_ | ahh |
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| 06:03.37 | EdePopede | .deb files often are only convenience. they include nothing but a tarball with the files and a smaller one with management stuff. pre- and post-install and uninstall scripts, a file with the info you get with `apt-cache show` and such. |
| 06:04.01 | _CM_ | EdePopede: ah |
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| 06:05.30 | EdePopede | and depending on your needs you can even omit the .desktop files, icons, docs, whatever. you may end up with some stuff installed into a subdirectory in /usr/lib and a wrapper script (or a binary), usually you can place all of this into /opt or /usr/local. and then there's not much of a difference between the .deb and a .tgz you may also get :) |
| 06:05.45 | _CM_ | o |
| 06:06.27 | _CM_ | EdePopede: well thank you... I am off to bed now its 1 am here :) |
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| 06:07.00 | EdePopede | keep in mind that debian has about 40k packages and a lot of them place some binary into your $PATH. and all this has to be coordinated (just look at the links in /etc/alternatives) |
| 06:07.10 | _CM_ | ah |
| 06:07.20 | EdePopede | 8am here, so good morning and good night at the same time ;) |
| 06:07.28 | annadane | it was what, 35k as of stretch? it wouldn't surprise me if buster has close to 50k |
| 06:07.29 | _CM_ | good morning / good night :) |
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| 06:07.51 | EdePopede | 14 DVDs.... buster is at 16 iirc |
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| 06:25.31 | AK | well, how to compile a new kernel in debian? getting source, compiling it, moving vmliuz to /boot but what about the initrd.img? |
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| 06:29.13 | EdePopede | !initrd |
| 06:29.13 | dpkg | [initrd] Initial ramdisk, or god's way of punishing you for using a pre-built kernel image... and you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem, see <can't mount root>. A great system for those who understand modules or need/want root in LVM and/or md RAID. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd . See also <initramfs>, <kp mantra>. |
| 06:29.21 | EdePopede | hth (hope this helps) |
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| 07:25.21 | EdePopede | anon__: #freenode may be a good choice for irc related stuff |
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| 07:44.52 | alphazulu | is there a way to get apt update to ignore the Icons? |
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| 07:54.21 | EdePopede | alphazulu: do you want to keep some icons from individual packages or to stay with an old iconpackage or something else? |
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| 07:55.02 | Synaptic | morning |
| 07:57.56 | EdePopede | ok, this one is new. i have mc forget the command history all the time, i had it not updating directory lists on quit, but purging the syntax file list in one running instance, that's new. |
| 07:58.05 | EdePopede | morning Synaptic |
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| 08:04.37 | EdePopede | and now the other instance needs <Esc> before tagging files with KP_ keys. also not the first time, but both at the same time, wow. |
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| 08:25.07 | alphazulu | EdePopede: are the icons even necessary? |
| 08:25.59 | rant | what are you even talking about? |
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| 08:26.30 | rant | nobody knows what "the icons" are |
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| 08:27.21 | rant | apt get update updates the package cache.. it has nothing to do with icons |
| 08:27.21 | apt | ACTION fetches update updates the package cache.. it has nothing to do with icons |
| 08:27.32 | rant | apt: shaddup |
| 08:27.32 | apt | fine, be that way! |
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| 08:32.00 | rant | alphazulu: apt remove appstream |
| 08:32.35 | rant | would be my guess if you are gettig icons with apt update.. since you dont want to explain wth you're talking about |
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| 08:34.16 | rant | or apt remove apt-config-icons |
| 08:34.32 | rant | ,i apt-config-icons |
| 08:34.33 | judd | No package named 'apt-config-icons' was found in stretch/amd64. |
| 08:34.39 | rant | ,i apt-config-icons buster |
| 08:34.40 | judd | Package apt-config-icons (misc, optional) in buster/amd64: APT configuration snippet to enable icon downloads. Version: 0.12.5-1; Size: 7.2k; Installed: 20k; Homepage: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/ |
| 08:34.50 | alphazulu | hi rant yes i meant when running apt update and it takes a long time to download various icons. |
| 08:35.25 | alphazulu | rant: apparently this is a somewhat new thing as this did not occur previously |
| 08:35.32 | rant | apt update doesn't download any icons, I'll say again, making my point :P |
| 08:36.19 | alphazulu | rant: it updates icons or something. updates a cache. not sure what but it always occurs after the repo sources are updated and take a lot of time |
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| 08:37.04 | rant | there is something called appstream which I don't understand what it is really.. but seems to be a package system agnostic something-or-other having to do with package cache.. and its been around for years it would seem.. and its in debian (optional package) and it has some means of downloading some kind of icons with apt update |
| 08:37.26 | alphazulu | Get:81 https://mirror.sjc02.svwh.net/debian sid/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [3,914 kB] |
| 08:37.32 | rant | alphazulu: as I said already, apt remove appstream apt-config-icons |
| 08:38.01 | alphazulu | Get:82 https://mirror.sjc02.svwh.net/debian sid/main DEP-11 48x48 Icons [3,932 kB] |
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| 08:38.22 | rant | or if you need this goofy ass appstream thing for something, look into the package apt-config-icons (dpkg -L apt-config-icons) and see what it does.. and undo it |
| 08:38.51 | rant | but near as I can tell apt-config-icons is only suggested not depended upon |
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| 08:40.04 | alphazulu | rant: thank you. i also had to remove plasma-discover which was dependent upon them |
| 08:40.09 | rant | this is not debian behavior.. its not anything installed by default.. its those damn fd.o people and more of their nonsesnse |
| 08:41.12 | alphazulu | rant: yes it must be some metadata that is used by the graphical package manager which i *never* use. but i can see where it would be nice for some people |
| 08:42.09 | rant | yeah well, you can remove things you never use, ya know :P |
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| 08:42.53 | rant | really with the case of DE bloat, you can just go and apt install the components you want, then apt remove the task-foo-desktop and apt autoremove |
| 08:42.54 | alphazulu | rant: yes and fortunately plasma-discover is not depended upon by any other packages such as plasma-destkop |
| 08:43.21 | rant | apt: plasma-desktop and such things are just empty metapackages anyhow |
| 08:43.21 | apt | okay, rant |
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| 08:43.43 | rant | apt forget plasma-desktop and such things |
| 08:43.43 | apt | rant: i forgot plasma-desktop and such things |
| 08:43.46 | alphazulu | rant: although sometimes having the metapackages is good because if they add or remove things |
| 08:44.31 | alphazulu | hehe calm down apt |
| 08:45.02 | rant | idk why this is happening.. I seem to be hitting that bots buzzer unnecessarily this morning |
| 08:45.21 | rant | and it decided to be working for a change |
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| 09:17.10 | kolnpole | hi |
| 09:17.34 | kolnpole | i have added a cron job by " crontab -e" |
| 09:17.48 | kolnpole | to run every minute |
| 09:17.52 | kolnpole | however nothing runs |
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| 09:18.16 | kolnpole | i even tried service cron reload | restart |
| 09:19.36 | kolnpole | this is my entry in crontab |
| 09:19.37 | kolnpole | * * * * * goaccess -f /var/log/nginx/access.log --log-format='%h %^ %^ [%d:%t %^] "%r" %s %b "%R" "%v" "%u"' --date-format=%d/%b/%Y --time-format=%H:%M:%S -a > /home/www/serverreport.html |
| 09:19.58 | kolnpole | it works fine when i run by same user in cmdline |
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| 09:29.36 | mi11k1 | so, im trying to install a deb file and i get libjpeg8-dev not satisfiable, ive compiled things that ive installed libjpeg-turbo-dev to replace that, but whats the best workarouund for installing deb? |
| 09:29.49 | mi11k1 | add jessie to sources? |
| 09:30.30 | mi11k1 | or should i just start using windows again?? |
| 09:30.32 | mi11k1 | haha no |
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| 09:30.37 | jim | hi, I'm looking into hibernation for a laptop running debian stretch... |
| 09:31.04 | mi11k1 | jim, hows that working for u? |
| 09:31.31 | jim | mi11k1, probably you have a version of what's in the .deb file that's the wrong version for the debian you have installed... trying to install this leads to no good :) |
| 09:32.01 | mi11k1 | jim, no, its a bug of some sort |
| 09:32.22 | met | mi11k1, what exactly are you trying to install? and which debian release are you using? |
| 09:32.23 | jim | mi11k1, you mean how's hibernation working? I'm just starting to try to put it together |
| 09:32.43 | mi11k1 | met, robot os, and im on MX |
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| 09:33.15 | met | I don't know MX :( |
| 09:33.31 | mi11k1 | check it out |
| 09:33.37 | mi11k1 | wicked debian distro |
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| 09:33.47 | diogenes_ | milobit, /j #mx-linux |
| 09:33.49 | met | is it a debian derivative? maybe they have their own support channel |
| 09:33.58 | jim | those things are (unfortunately) based on debian, and not debian itself; and as met implies, not many here know much about it |
| 09:34.12 | diogenes_ | !debian based |
| 09:34.12 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 09:34.35 | mi11k1 | its debian to me |
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| 09:35.17 | mi11k1 | debian is the only distro i use, in different shapes and sizes |
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| 09:35.55 | jim | mi11k1, the problem is, if we are to support every debian deriv, we'd have to learn every debian deriv, all the differences and all the attributes |
| 09:36.02 | jim | (it |
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| 09:36.09 | jim | is too much) |
| 09:36.20 | mi11k1 | you dont, this problem occurs on straight debian |
| 09:36.38 | jim | how do you know that? |
| 09:36.57 | mi11k1 | because i did a google search and its a common bug |
| 09:37.25 | jim | well what's the bug? |
| 09:37.26 | mi11k1 | but, theres i just want a clear cut answer |
| 09:38.22 | petn-randall | mi11k1: Please respect that we don't (and can't) support your favourite derived OS in here. This bug is non-existant in Debian, unless you started mixing releases/distros. |
| 09:38.38 | jim | met, is there something I can read to understand how debian implements hibernation, and what I would need? |
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| 09:39.07 | petn-randall | mi11k1: If you can reproduce the issue on Debian, feel free to ask in here for support. |
| 09:39.49 | met | jim, there's something on debian wiki -- https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend |
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| 09:40.19 | met | I need to go through that too and finally sort out suspending on my laptop :| |
| 09:40.55 | mi11k1 | sorry, i thought it was a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjpeg8-empty/+bug/1357242 |
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| 09:42.39 | mi11k1 | petn-randall, i always compile mjpeg-streamer on debian and i have to install libjpeg-turbo-dev |
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| 09:44.25 | mi11k1 | petn-randall, ok, i guess my question is, is there a way to substitute that lib when installing a deb file? |
| 09:45.32 | petn-randall | mi11k1: Have you reproduced it on Debian? |
| 09:46.21 | mi11k1 | petn-randall, my hypervisor is offlinne for some reason |
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| 10:15.14 | alphazulu | jim: try 'apropos hibernate' you will see a bunch of man pages related to hibernation and systemd |
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| 10:22.34 | alphazulu | jim: also read up on systemd inhibitor locks: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/inhibit/ |
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| 11:22.58 | jim | you got a broken or misdirected link on your wiki |
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| 11:23.15 | jim | I'll try to get you to the link |
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| 11:24.24 | jim | this link gets you to the hibernation page: https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation |
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| 11:25.31 | jim | then under contents, choose the 3rd link Uswsusp |
| 11:26.26 | jim | then the link in the bullet point starting "make sure you read" is broken |
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| 11:32.35 | victorqueiroz | Guys is it possible to install AMD GPU PRO on Debian stable? |
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| 11:37.54 | wzrd- | Can I install debian while booted? I can't specify the debian iso for my server provider so I need to do it while booted into the rescue system |
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| 11:39.52 | wzrd- | ah, debootstrap |
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| 11:47.10 | grobi | hello, rangers ! |
| 11:48.11 | noodlepie | Hiya grobi ! How doing today? |
| 11:48.40 | noodlepie | Great here, whizzing along nicely! It's a lovely sunny day, @@Liverpool, England, here! |
| 11:49.41 | grobi | noodlepie: fine fine sunny day here as well :) |
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| 11:56.55 | noodlepie | grobi, Great mate! The summer months make me happy - Vitamin D, and all! |
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| 12:06.59 | grobi | well i see :) |
| 12:08.26 | grobi | stupid me.. did i say hello, rangers ! ? I#m on Debian and that for a reason.. |
| 12:08.51 | grobi | hello, debian's :) |
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| 12:09.39 | grobi | is there a package that comes for pdf2txt instead? |
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| 12:13.25 | grobi | what can i use instead in stretch? |
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| 12:35.05 | HelloShitty | Hello again |
| 12:35.35 | HelloShitty | When we plug in an usb pen, how can I know which partition is attributed to this device? |
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| 12:39.53 | lessless | should service run by systemd be actually detached https://parabolicwhale.com/monero-node-guide/ ? |
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| 12:40.25 | humpled | lsblk is one way HelloShitty |
| 12:40.40 | HelloShitty | let me check |
| 12:41.19 | HelloShitty | thank you humpled |
| 12:41.39 | humpled | cool, gl / |
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| 12:41.52 | r2d2_ | Any idea why the debian repository mirror "debian.csail.mit.edu" is down? https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html#&sort[results]=0-0&filter[results]=debian.csail.mit.edu----------- |
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| 12:42.17 | r2d2_ | my apt-get update command has been failing since friday night |
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| 12:50.19 | HelloShitty | humpled: still around? |
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| 12:50.40 | HelloShitty | What is the reasining behind the chosing of bs parameter in dd command? |
| 12:51.21 | dvs | HelloShitty, so that the copy doesn't take place one byte at a time |
| 12:51.35 | humpled | eek that would be slow |
| 12:52.11 | HelloShitty | So, if I want to erase an 8Gb pen drive, what would be a reasonable bs value and why not any other value? |
| 12:52.40 | humpled | i think i experimented with different sizes, it makes quite a difference |
| 12:52.41 | dvs | I use 4M personally but I'm not sure what the optimal value would be |
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| 12:52.54 | HelloShitty | I was readding this, btw: |
| 12:52.59 | HelloShitty | https://serverfault.com/questions/650086/does-the-bs-option-in-dd-really-improve-the-speed |
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| 12:54.22 | humpled | iirc it uses 512k by default |
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| 12:57.12 | HelloShitty | yes, 512 is default (from man pages) |
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| 13:08.21 | HelloShitty | I chose bs=1M to format a 16Gb pen drive (I said 8Gb but it's actually 16) and it's taking for ever |
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| 13:09.17 | humpled | i think the real maximum size is up to your hardware and driver |
| 13:11.13 | humpled | 8min 50s at 30 MB/s ? |
| 13:15.16 | HelloShitty | I guess I had a problem |
| 13:15.18 | HelloShitty | dd: error writing '/dev/sdc': No space left on device |
| 13:15.18 | HelloShitty | 15269+0 records in |
| 13:15.18 | HelloShitty | 15268+0 records out |
| 13:15.35 | HelloShitty | 16009658368 bytes (16 GB, 15 GiB) copied, 1131,53 s, 14,1 MB/s |
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| 13:15.55 | areyouloco | how do I list all vesa modes from CLI? |
| 13:16.12 | areyouloco | i forgot the command and cannot find it on the net |
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| 13:22.34 | humpled | HelloShitty isn't that what was supposed to happen? |
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| 13:22.53 | HelloShitty | I was not expecting that error |
| 13:23.18 | humpled | did you tell it when to stop? |
| 13:23.29 | HelloShitty | I was expecting something like: Copying finished. No more space available |
| 13:23.38 | HelloShitty | or something like that |
| 13:23.49 | HelloShitty | the count parameter? |
| 13:24.03 | HelloShitty | no, I have not specified the count parameter |
| 13:24.35 | humpled | right, so copying would never be finished! |
| 13:25.29 | HelloShitty | ok |
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| 13:50.31 | whislock | HelloShitty: That's actually the expected error when you write an unbounded input to a finite output. |
| 13:50.45 | whislock | So, in that instance, the error isn't really an error. |
| 13:50.57 | HelloShitty | yeah |
| 13:50.59 | HelloShitty | :) |
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| 14:16.40 | HelloShitty | Another question I have guys |
| 14:17.04 | HelloShitty | I have created a new key using gpg for testing a few things I'm reading (I'm learning a bit more about gpg) |
| 14:17.28 | HelloShitty | but at this moment I have 4 .key files inside ~/.gnupg/private-keys folder |
| 14:17.49 | HelloShitty | In my keyring I have 2 keys |
| 14:18.09 | HelloShitty | so this means that 2 of these .key files are not in keyring |
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| 14:18.23 | HelloShitty | and I wanted to delete them to avoi conffusion to me |
| 14:18.43 | HelloShitty | the problem is that I on't know which file is related to which key in my keyring |
| 14:19.05 | HelloShitty | Is therea way of knowing that so that I can delete the private keys I don't need? |
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| 14:29.00 | HazardX | any ideas on the best filesystem for a SSD if I am streaming data to a file at ~200MB/sec? |
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| 14:29.07 | HazardX | ext4 is causing occasional packet drops (becuase I don't have flow control from the source) |
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| 14:31.58 | petn-randall | HazardX: packet drops on tcp/ip? Or where are you seeing packets? |
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| 14:32.49 | petn-randall | HelloShitty: You can always wipe the complete ~/.gnupg if you want to start from scratch. Otherwise I think the name corresponds to the fingerprint of the key. |
| 14:33.15 | HazardX | packets are actually from USB (SDR device), I need to stream them to disk. when I redirect the file to a filesystem I sometimes "miss" blocks, if I write the data raw to a NVME block device I don't see that, so I assume the VFS later is generating write delays sometimes |
| 14:33.38 | Habbie | HazardX, do you need to do this 24/7, or in occasional bursts? |
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| 14:33.56 | HazardX | 20-minute bursts max I think |
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| 14:34.12 | Habbie | how about doing the raw device trick and moving it over when you're done? |
| 14:35.17 | Habbie | i don't have filesystem advice, meanwhile - other than maybe try preallocating all the space you need beforehand |
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| 14:36.17 | HazardX | Habbie, reading back from the block device is currently the 'backup' plan, but it is...annoying |
| 14:36.18 | HazardX | (and dangerous to write to an nvme drive, where there are two of them with one digit difference in the system) |
| 14:36.33 | petn-randall | HazardX: If you not synchronously writing to the filesystem (e.g. mount option "sync") ocassional spikes shouldn't matter, as long as you have a little bit of RAM left. |
| 14:36.51 | petn-randall | *you are |
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| 14:37.38 | petn-randall | HazardX: Note that a fresh ext4 filesystem uses lazy inode initialization, so you have I/O on it until the inodes are done. |
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| 14:38.04 | petn-randall | HazardX: You can prevent that by setting the right option when formatting to ext4, which also makes benchmarks comparable again. |
| 14:38.13 | han-solo | HazardX: are the reader and writer threads the same ? |
| 14:38.21 | HazardX | petn-randall, yea, I was wondering about that, is there any way for it to force init? (or maybe use largefile and ext2/3?) |
| 14:39.01 | han-solo | # mkfs.ext4 -F -b 4096 -E discard,stride=16,stripe-width=256 /dev/sda1 # is a good format options |
| 14:39.15 | HazardX | han-solo: right now its SDR-program -> (fifo node) -> dd of=/dev/nvmenX |
| 14:39.30 | petn-randall | HazardX: Check out 'lazy_itable_init' in `man mkfs.ext4`. |
| 14:39.34 | Habbie | HazardX, you can mitigate the one digit danger by giving it a name - with a symlink, or with LVM perhaps |
| 14:39.49 | HazardX | if I do of=<file on filesystem>, SDR program complains about buffer overrun |
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| 14:40.43 | petn-randall | HazardX: How large is the fifo buffer? |
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| 14:40.51 | HazardX | whatever mkfifo does |
| 14:40.56 | petn-randall | cr4ckp0t: Wrong channel? |
| 14:41.01 | cr4ckp0t | no |
| 14:41.05 | cr4ckp0t | all channels are right |
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| 14:41.07 | han-solo | gtfo |
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| 14:41.41 | HazardX | the SDR program is complicated, and wants to write a *FILE object, I was writing them to /dev/shm (which worked well) but I need to capture MUCH more data than I have ram now |
| 14:42.01 | petn-randall | HazardX: Can't you directly write to disk? |
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| 14:42.35 | han-solo | maybe, you could use DIRECT IO ? :/ |
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| 14:42.59 | HazardX | petn-randall, then there is the buffer overflow in the SDR program (I suspect the SDR program dosen't do anything terribly smart about writes) |
| 14:42.59 | petn-randall | As long as the tool doesn't do fdatasync() or sync(), it should use the filesystem buffer, which can be arbitrarily large (the kernel takes care of gritty details). |
| 14:43.23 | petn-randall | HazardX: Try running it with `eatmydata`, that might even do the trick. |
| 14:43.57 | HazardX | oooo boy, that package looks like fun XD |
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| 14:45.19 | petn-randall | HazardX: Yeah, it's great for some very specific use cases. It might even work in this case. |
| 14:45.33 | petn-randall | Especially if the SDR program is closed source. |
| 14:46.04 | HazardX | well, thanks guys for the suggestions! I've got some new ideas to try now! :) |
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| 14:46.41 | HazardX | not closed source, just...painful to work with :S |
| 14:47.26 | HazardX | petn-randall, han-solo, Habbie: thanks and cheers! :) |
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| 14:54.58 | masos | why does my unmkinitramfs output contain two directories 'main' and 'early' instead of the usual directory structure? |
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| 14:58.34 | Kobaz | okay plebians |
| 14:59.57 | Kobaz | so i'm using a snapshot of stretch-backports.... snapshot.debian.org_archive_debian_20181019T180000Z_dists_stretch-backports_main_source_Sources: linux-headers-4.18.0-0.bpo.1-all-amd64 deb kernel optional arch=amd64 profile=!stage1 |
| 15:00.06 | Kobaz | i found sources for that, but where's the binary package? |
| 15:00.29 | HelloShitty | petn-randall: how do I print key fingerprints? |
| 15:00.40 | HelloShitty | gpg --fingerprint is not recognized |
| 15:00.48 | HelloShitty | from terminal... |
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| 15:02.41 | getxsick | i used `dpkg-reconfigure locales` to set a language, however after relogging LANGUAGE and LC_ALL are unset. Shall I set it in /etc/bash.bashrc for a default purposes? |
| 15:03.07 | Kobaz | oh |
| 15:03.07 | Kobaz | haha |
| 15:03.08 | Kobaz | that's why |
| 15:03.11 | Kobaz | deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20181019T180000Z/ stretch-backports main |
| 15:03.17 | Kobaz | fixed it! thanks! |
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| 15:05.00 | cybercrypto | Kobaz: Please use pastbin. :-) do not flood |
| 15:05.13 | Kobaz | use pastebin for my random chatter? |
| 15:05.18 | masos | why does my unmkinitramfs contain only 2 directories instead of the usual directory structure? |
| 15:05.29 | masos | unmkinitramfs output* |
| 15:05.48 | Kobaz | i use pastebin/etc for generally anything more than one line of code/cfg,etc |
| 15:06.44 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 15:06.44 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 15:06.53 | petn-randall | Kobaz: That might be the reason. ^^^ |
| 15:07.08 | cybercrypto | Kobaz: correct. 5 lines in a row, just now... got you kicked. But thats ok... nevermind. Have a great weekend. |
| 15:07.47 | Kobaz | happy codingful weekend |
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| 15:35.02 | HelloShitty | Guys, I'm conffuse here with something |
| 15:35.05 | HelloShitty | about gpg |
| 15:35.18 | HelloShitty | gpg always creates a pair of keys? |
| 15:35.41 | HelloShitty | So, what's the difference between symetric and asymetric encryption? |
| 15:36.16 | getxsick | ufw shows the default deny for incoming, I installed a WordPress and I can connect via 8000 port. isn't it weird? |
| 15:36.17 | whislock | Symmetric encryption uses the same key to encrypt and decrypt. Asymmetric encryption doesn't. |
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| 15:38.08 | whislock | There's a lot more to it than that, of course, but that's the simplest zeroth level answer. |
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| 15:38.55 | HelloShitty | whislock: but gpg always create a pair of keys, right? |
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| 15:39.04 | HelloShitty | A private and a public key |
| 15:39.10 | whislock | Yes. |
| 15:39.47 | HelloShitty | the public key can be shared with others and they will always use that key to decrypt the messages I encrypte an sent to them, right? |
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| 15:39.53 | whislock | No. |
| 15:40.09 | HelloShitty | So, how it works? |
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| 15:40.24 | HelloShitty | Then send me their public an I encrypt with their public? |
| 15:40.26 | whislock | A sender will use YOUR public key to encrypt a message to you. Only your private key can decrypt it. |
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| 15:41.03 | HelloShitty | hum, ok, so where does asymetric and symetric encryption comes into play in this context? |
| 15:41.45 | HelloShitty | I think I'm conffusing the key pair with the need of asymetric encryption needing 2 different keys (1 for encryption and another for ecrypting) |
| 15:42.10 | whislock | That's the same thing. |
| 15:42.25 | whislock | Key pair = two keys. They're related to one another, of course, but they are two keys. |
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| 15:43.16 | HelloShitty | so, clear this to me. If I want to create a symetric key, there will be only one key generated by gpg? |
| 15:43.25 | whislock | You don't. |
| 15:44.10 | HelloShitty | What you mean? |
| 15:44.42 | whislock | You don't create symmetric keys within GPG. |
| 15:45.07 | HelloShitty | ok, so gpg can only create asymetric? |
| 15:45.17 | HelloShitty | Is symetric keys for OpenSSH for example? |
| 15:45.28 | whislock | No. Those are also asymmetric. |
| 15:46.12 | HelloShitty | ok, so what programs create symetric keys? |
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| 15:47.38 | whislock | In almost all cases, symmetric keys are generated when needed, and you don't do so manually. |
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| 15:49.47 | cyborg81 | Hello, World! |
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| 15:50.55 | Kobaz | you can do symetric encoding decoding with ssl |
| 15:51.20 | whislock | Correct. That's one of the cases where symmetric keys are generated where needed, not manually. |
| 15:51.27 | whislock | GPG and OpenSSH also do so. |
| 15:51.36 | Kobaz | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16056135/how-to-use-openssl-to-encrypt-decrypt-files |
| 15:52.04 | cyborg81 | waw, this is soo cool. |
| 15:52.36 | whislock | Kobaz: OpenSSL has to be able to do that, given that it is a full cryptographic library, and therefore requires both symmetric and asymmetric crypto primitives. |
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| 15:52.45 | Kobaz | well of course |
| 15:52.46 | whislock | But that's more a "ooh, look what it can do" rather than a proper use. |
| 15:52.48 | HelloShitty | I meant to use GPG to create symetric keys |
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| 15:52.55 | whislock | You don't. |
| 15:53.13 | azeem | 22 |
| 15:53.20 | HelloShitty | yes I know now |
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| 15:54.06 | HelloShitty | but whislock said that OpenSSL could generate symetric keys and then I said I was trying to figure out if GPG could also or not |
| 15:54.32 | whislock | So, more accurately: GPG generates symmetric keys any time you encrypt something, but it manages that, not you. |
| 15:54.47 | HelloShitty | ok |
| 15:54.56 | whislock | SSH generates a symmetric key every time you connect to something, but again, it manages that, not you. Ditto SSL/TLS. |
| 15:54.56 | HelloShitty | I got it |
| 15:55.04 | whislock | Cool. |
| 15:55.36 | HelloShitty | And what is the key default length GPG creates? 3072? No? |
| 15:56.09 | whislock | Yup. |
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| 15:57.21 | whislock | At least, for the asymmetric side. |
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| 16:02.32 | HelloShitty | How can I create a 4096 one instead of 3072? |
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| 16:03.49 | whislock | So, while you can easily do that, it gains you very little. |
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| 16:07.50 | whislock | 4096 does not provide the increase in security that the number itself would suggest. |
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| 16:08.12 | johnkeates | depends on what you are securing against |
| 16:08.22 | whislock | Not really. |
| 16:08.25 | johnkeates | yes really |
| 16:08.29 | whislock | No, not really. |
| 16:08.32 | johnkeates | yes, totally really |
| 16:08.38 | whislock | *plonk* |
| 16:08.41 | cyborg81 | LOL |
| 16:08.44 | johnkeates | *blep* |
| 16:08.58 | cyborg81 | :)~ |
| 16:09.05 | johnkeates | i actually missed the question |
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| 16:09.19 | johnkeates | but i always like to point out threat model when someone starts ranting about ciphers and key lengths |
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| 16:09.58 | whislock | The asymmetric portion of a cryptosystem is only one part. 3072-bit asymmetric keys are approximately equivalent to a 128-bit symmetric cipher. Increasing the length of the asymmetric portion doesn't change the security margin offered by the system as a whole, which is only as strong as the weakest element. |
| 16:10.01 | johnkeates | maybe the threat is a special asic and math exploit that defeats everything below 4096 bits but not 4096 :p |
| 16:10.48 | whislock | So, if you're securing against anything at all, 4096 doesn't offer a tangible increase. |
| 16:11.00 | HelloShitty | I want to encrypt some files where I have some important passwords and means of recovering those same passwords |
| 16:11.17 | whislock | To get any higher, you'd need asymmetric keys of such a ridiculous length that it wouldn't be feasible to use them in practice. |
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| 16:11.39 | HelloShitty | I'm going for asymetric |
| 16:11.41 | Kobaz | HelloShitty: like a password manager? |
| 16:11.43 | johnkeates | use a good symmetric key to encrypt your data, then use good asymmetric keys to encrypt that key |
| 16:12.00 | HelloShitty | Kobaz: no |
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| 16:12.04 | johnkeates | and good is defined as a selection of threat model, cipher, mode and key length |
| 16:12.06 | whislock | johnkeates: That's what GPG already does. And OpenSSH. And TLS. And the same answer applies. |
| 16:12.17 | whislock | It's only as strong as the weakest element. |
| 16:12.22 | johnkeates | @whislock ofc they do, but he's asking :p |
| 16:12.36 | whislock | And I make a practice of giving real world answer that are factually accurate. |
| 16:12.38 | johnkeates | keywrapping and derivation functions are just crutches for humans |
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| 16:13.02 | johnkeates | (except for when you want to combine assymetric and symmetric ciphers0 |
| 16:13.21 | HelloShitty | Well, my idea was different |
| 16:13.23 | johnkeates | don't encrypt data with asymmetric crypto |
| 16:13.26 | whislock | So, no, RSA 4096 gives no real-world benefits over RSA 3072. |
| 16:13.40 | johnkeates | encrypt keys with rsa |
| 16:13.41 | whislock | That's actually a well-known fact. |
| 16:14.01 | johnkeates | real-world depends on the threat model, there is no universal truth in crypto |
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| 16:14.11 | HelloShitty | I'm creating a sparse file and will encrypt that file with LUKS |
| 16:14.13 | whislock | johnkeates: The universal truth in crypto is called "math." |
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| 16:14.22 | johnkeates | not really |
| 16:14.24 | HelloShitty | then I will encrypt that sparse file again with GPG |
| 16:14.26 | whislock | And we're discussing mathematical facts. |
| 16:14.37 | whislock | johnkeates: Okay. Go argue with math. Let me know how that pans out. |
| 16:14.43 | johnkeates | say the universal truth says we can't do mathematical operations that exhaust the universe's energy |
| 16:14.57 | johnkeates | that's saying you consider the universe as the endgame threat |
| 16:14.59 | petn-randall | whislock: What will be feasible and not in 5-10 years are not facts, but pure speculation, though. |
| 16:15.03 | johnkeates | says nothing about parallel universes :p |
| 16:15.15 | whislock | petn-randall: Sure, and that wasn't being argued. |
| 16:15.28 | johnkeates | hence the threat modelling |
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| 16:15.34 | johnkeates | HelloShitty: what are you defending against |
| 16:16.11 | HelloShitty | Against people that are constantly trying to hack/crack cryptoworl info |
| 16:16.27 | johnkeates | then luks only helps with offline attacks |
| 16:16.37 | johnkeates | armed guards work better against offline attacks |
| 16:16.42 | HelloShitty | like crypto wallets, accounts, crypto storages |
| 16:16.43 | whislock | The specific statement that RSA 4096 gives no tangible benefits in terms of effective security over RSA 3072 is accurate. |
| 16:16.43 | HelloShitty | etc |
| 16:17.12 | johnkeates | whislock, only if you consider one universe, like current math for crypto does |
| 16:18.02 | johnkeates | i'm not saying it's not realistic, or multiverse is, but immutable statements like that are not what an emotional defender gets helped with |
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| 16:18.15 | HelloShitty | guys, please just tell me what do I need to change in the following command to generate a 4096bit key pair: gpg --gen-key |
| 16:18.19 | petn-randall | whislock: Factoring keys via QC will become feasible, and the amount of qbits will determine the space of pubkeys that can be factored. Hence a 4096b key will be cracked further in the future than a 3072b key. |
| 16:18.31 | ksk | HelloShitty: how about man gpg? |
| 16:18.31 | johnkeates | @HelloShitty no |
| 16:18.49 | petn-randall | HelloShitty: https://help.github.com/en/articles/generating-a-new-gpg-key |
| 16:18.54 | ksk | HelloShitty: take a look at the -b switch |
| 16:19.14 | johnkeates | in your case, luks with big time aes and rsa doesn't help you because your true attack vector is online attacks and LUKS doesn't help with that |
| 16:19.16 | petn-randall | "make a detached signature"? |
| 16:19.31 | whislock | petn-randall: The number of qubits required for either option is within an order of magnitude. Hence why real-world factorization of any coprime even in the realm of current keysizes is considered a complete break regardless of keysize. |
| 16:19.35 | Henry151 | hey #debian |
| 16:19.55 | whislock | petn-randall: If you think RSA 4096 is even a slight stopgap against QC, you're kidding yourself. |
| 16:20.02 | Henry151 | i've got a little concerning situation and could use help with it |
| 16:20.10 | petn-randall | johnkeates: Sure, I'm not challenging that. Also hitting someone with a 5$ wrench is cheaper than bruteforcing the passphrase, so there are practical limits. |
| 16:20.20 | johnkeates | @petn-randall indeed |
| 16:20.23 | whislock | Ahh, XKCD. |
| 16:20.25 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 16:20.37 | petn-randall | yep :) |
| 16:20.37 | Henry151 | so, my lenovo thinkpad running debian; I noticed that the wifi stopped working |
| 16:20.39 | johnkeates | when someone says luks you point them to xkcd :p |
| 16:20.50 | HelloShitty | I have been reading from several sites about gpg |
| 16:20.54 | HelloShitty | here for example |
| 16:20.56 | johnkeates | it's not that it's useless in all cases (i.e. baseline theft) but it doesn't magically secure you |
| 16:20.57 | HelloShitty | https://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html |
| 16:21.06 | Henry151 | just kinda out of the blue, it stopped working, i plugged in an ethernet cable and disregarded it |
| 16:21.08 | petn-randall | Use the new LUKS2 header, it's much mucher safererer! |
| 16:21.12 | HelloShitty | here |
| 16:21.15 | HelloShitty | https://gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html |
| 16:21.19 | Henry151 | so now i turned off the laptop to reboot |
| 16:21.19 | petn-randall | HelloShitty: Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 16:21.37 | HelloShitty | turn off what? |
| 16:21.39 | HelloShitty | here too |
| 16:21.41 | HelloShitty | https://www.futureboy.us/pgp.html#PublicKeyCrypto |
| 16:21.49 | johnkeates | read the manpage it has it all https://linux.die.net/man/1/gpg |
| 16:21.55 | johnkeates | or just `man gpg` |
| 16:21.59 | Henry151 | it says something about being in maintenance mode and to type root password; and to press journalctl -xb for more info |
| 16:22.04 | Henry151 | so i typed my root password |
| 16:22.09 | HelloShitty | man pages usually on't answer my questions |
| 16:22.10 | Henry151 | this all just happened right now this morning |
| 16:22.17 | HelloShitty | I try to read them many times |
| 16:22.18 | johnkeates | then you're asking the wrong question |
| 16:22.23 | HelloShitty | and most of my questions remains |
| 16:22.35 | petn-randall | TBF, `man gpg` says nothing about keysize. |
| 16:22.36 | HelloShitty | no, I'm asking the questions I on't have answers to |
| 16:22.40 | johnkeates | asking 'how do i rsa4096' is probably the wrong question |
| 16:23.01 | Henry151 | HelloShitty: "/join #gnupg" |
| 16:23.04 | johnkeates | the right question is: 'how do i secure my data' |
| 16:23.11 | johnkeates | classic X,Y |
| 16:23.13 | HelloShitty | it's the same if I try to find in the manpages which ciphers gpg supports |
| 16:23.18 | HelloShitty | man pages on't say it |
| 16:23.25 | johnkeates | thats because those aren't static |
| 16:23.26 | HelloShitty | at least I couldn't find |
| 16:23.29 | Henry151 | so i press journalctl -xb and i see all kinds of stuff i'm concerned about and i need help understanding |
| 16:23.53 | HelloShitty | they may not be static but this is a question I can't find answers in man pages |
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| 16:24.23 | Henry151 | first things first, at the third line, we've got "thinkpad kernel: Intel Spectre V2 boken microcode detected; disabling Speculation Control" |
| 16:24.28 | Henry151 | what's that mean? |
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| 16:25.06 | firespeaker | anyone else getting wayland-related errors with lots of gtk3 software after recent dist-upgrade? |
| 16:25.08 | firespeaker | stuff like symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37: undefined symbol: gdk_wayland_display_get_type |
| 16:25.19 | firespeaker | I'm getting this with both testing and unstable |
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| 16:26.10 | firespeaker | I was getting it for libclutter also, so I compiled that myself. it fixed a few things, but there appear to be a number of other libraries having trouble |
| 16:26.16 | Henry151 | then, the first red line is one saying "ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCIO.XHC.RHUB.HS11] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/dswload-210) |
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| 16:26.47 | Henry151 | skip ahead a bit |
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| 16:27.32 | Henry151 | i see "MDS CPU bug present and SMT on, data leak possible. See https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/hw-vuln/mds.html for more details. #5 #6 #7 |
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| 16:27.52 | Henry151 | can anybody help me understand what may have suddenly happened to my beloved computer? |
| 16:28.35 | Henry151 | then we've got a bunch of red lines saying "pstore: decompression failed; returned -5" |
| 16:28.39 | firespeaker | Henry151: got more context? |
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| 16:28.52 | Henry151 | firespeaker: this just happened spontaneously out of nowhere |
| 16:28.58 | Henry151 | debian 9 on my lenovo thinkpad |
| 16:29.03 | Henry151 | worked great yesterday |
| 16:29.21 | firespeaker | Henry151: that's not helpful |
| 16:29.27 | firespeaker | Henry151: what is it doing now |
| 16:29.30 | Henry151 | noticed this morning that the wifi wasn't working (nm-applet wouldn't start up; wifi wouldn't connect to anythiung) |
| 16:29.52 | Henry151 | so i shut it down, it restarted, and the things i just posted are what's showing in journalctl -xb |
| 16:30.12 | Henry151 | i think i started at the start, right up above |
| 16:30.12 | firespeaker | Henry151: can you post the output of that somewhere? |
| 16:30.28 | Henry151 | yeah |
| 16:30.28 | firespeaker | Henry151: full output |
| 16:30.43 | firespeaker | Henry151: so are you saying it won't restart? |
| 16:30.52 | firespeaker | i.e., it won't boot fully |
| 16:30.57 | Henry151 | well it restarted in this emergency mode |
| 16:31.04 | firespeaker | Henry151: also, when was the last time it booted fully? |
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| 16:31.21 | Henry151 | it had been "on all the time" for weeks and weeks |
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| 16:31.29 | Henry151 | this is the first time i had tried to reboot it |
| 16:31.32 | Henry151 | in weeks. |
| 16:31.35 | firespeaker | okay |
| 16:31.40 | firespeaker | let's see that log output |
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| 16:32.00 | Henry151 | trying to see if plugging it in to ethernet cable will give me an internet connection so i can termbin.com it |
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| 16:32.49 | Henry151 | doesn't seem to give me any ethernet |
| 16:34.02 | Henry151 | i think i see the wifi problem |
| 16:34.34 | Henry151 | it says "iwlwifi 0000:04:00:0: firmware failed to load iwlwifi-8265-26.ucode (-2)" |
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| 16:34.56 | Henry151 | that's the name of the wifi firmware package i had to install to get wifi working on it when i first installed debian on the machine |
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| 16:35.17 | Henry151 | not sure why it would suddenly be failing to load when it had worked fine for two years :/ |
| 16:35.41 | Henry151 | there's also a bunch of lines saying "pstore: decompression failed; returned -5" |
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| 16:41.40 | Henry151 | i can't seem to get internet access even plugged in by ethernet, to be able to share the logs |
| 16:42.06 | Henry151 | systemctl status networking says "active (exited) |
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| 16:42.55 | HelloShitty | So, why do I have created a brand new key and created also the revoke certificate and tried to encript a file with it an gpg says there is no public key? |
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| 16:44.04 | Henry151 | HelloShitty: try gpg --list-keys and see if your public key is listed |
| 16:44.28 | Henry151 | also in all seriousness, for help with gpg stuff the folks in #gnupg are extremely helpful, i ask questions in there all the time. |
| 16:44.31 | HelloShitty | it is there |
| 16:44.42 | HelloShitty | Henry151: I used the commandd like: |
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| 16:45.00 | Henry151 | there's 262 nicks in #gnupg that are all specifically into gpg enough to hang out in that chatroom. |
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| 16:45.22 | HelloShitty | ok |
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| 16:49.31 | _CM_ | It seems like Debian is more memory hungry than Ubuntu.... Right now Debian is pulling 2.88 gigs |
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| 16:51.02 | at0m | _CM_: same WM, DE, and other apps? |
| 16:51.11 | at0m | .. open and running |
| 16:51.16 | _CM_ | at0m: just telegram and hexchat |
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| 16:51.41 | _CM_ | I have 7 gigs of memory though |
| 16:51.54 | at0m | _CM_: and no desktop or window manager? |
| 16:52.00 | _CM_ | yes KDE |
| 16:52.07 | at0m | that explains =) |
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| 16:54.45 | Henry151 | ok, still no internet, but, I think i may have found the culprit |
| 16:55.28 | Henry151 | since last reboot, i had set up network storage by adding a couple lines to /etc/fstab so i just reverted them to their previous condition |
| 16:55.33 | Henry151 | now it is booting normally |
| 16:55.42 | Henry151 | still have my wifi issue but i can probably figure that one out on my own |
| 16:55.54 | Henry151 | thanks for all the help #debian don't know what i'd do without ya |
| 16:56.31 | Henry151 | that line in journalctl -xb was concerning to me though, the first one |
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| 16:56.47 | _CM_ | at0m: oh? |
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| 16:57.03 | _CM_ | at0m: I wonder why Ubuntu is lighter it only pulls about 2 gigs vs deb |
| 16:57.07 | Henry151 | first things first, at the third line, we've got "thinkpad kernel: Intel Spectre V2 boken microcode detected; disabling Speculation Control" |
| 16:57.13 | Henry151 | that one |
| 16:57.50 | Henry151 | welp everything seems to be totally back to normal |
| 16:57.52 | Henry151 | wifi working and all |
| 16:58.02 | johnkeates | _CM_: it doesnt, depends on what you configure and how; also, unused ram is wasted ram, so best is to use all of it all the time |
| 16:58.23 | Henry151 | i gave myself way too much swap when setting up this server |
| 16:58.28 | Henry151 | on a side note |
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| 16:58.42 | jmcnaught | Henry151: do you have the intel-microcode package installed? |
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| 16:59.25 | Henry151 | hi jmcnaught -- apt list intel-microcode says stable |
| 16:59.35 | Henry151 | 3.20190514 but not installed |
| 16:59.47 | Henry151 | also says there is 1 additional version, use the -a switch to see it |
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| 16:59.59 | Henry151 | but neither of them are installed. |
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| 17:00.21 | Henry151 | what is this all about? |
| 17:00.23 | _CM_ | johnkeates: ah |
| 17:00.53 | jmcnaught | Henry151: install that and you will be better protected against that MDS bug https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/hw-vuln/mds.html |
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| 17:02.05 | Henry151 | jmcnaught: do you think from the stuff i shared, that, at aglance, it looks like someone was trying to exploit that vulnerability on my system? |
| 17:02.43 | jmcnaught | Henry151: no I think it was just warning you that the bug is present in your processor and the microcode mitigation was not present. |
| 17:02.55 | Henry151 | ok cool. |
| 17:03.16 | jmcnaught | Henry151: I don't know why your wifi failed, but you seemed to figure out the boot issue. I didn't see everything though. |
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| 17:03.41 | Henry151 | jmcnaught: yeah it was somehow the two lines i had added in /etc/fstab were causing the boot issue |
| 17:04.26 | wzrd- | Can I have grub boot a lvm logical volume? |
| 17:04.31 | Henry151 | not sure why the wifi failed either but it seems that it's working now; i had rebooted thinking "maybe that will fix my wifi" so now that i got past the /etc/fstab problems that were interrupting the normal boot sequence, it seems like the reboot did indeed fix the wifi issue |
| 17:05.00 | jmcnaught | Henry151: hopefully it's a permanent fix :) |
| 17:05.48 | Henry151 | yeah well, i remembered that when i'd tried to reboot my other laptop the other day, i had a similar problem, and that i had temporarily resolved it by commenting out the lines in /etc/fstab that make my network storage |
| 17:06.12 | Henry151 | i think that i was "doing it wrong" in /etc/fstab and that if i did it right it would be able to survive a reboot without f*ing things up |
| 17:07.10 | Henry151 | trying to install intel-microcode is saying Depends: iucode-tool but it is not installable, unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages |
| 17:07.56 | Henry151 | trying to install iucode-tool it says it is not available, but is referred to by another package, and that it has no installation candidate |
| 17:10.44 | jhutchins | a |
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| 17:10.51 | _CM_ | in debian how do I get the equiv of " ubuntu-restricted-extras" where I get the windows fonts etc? |
| 17:10.52 | Henry151 | w |
| 17:11.31 | Henry151 | _CM_: i don't know about windows fonts... but have you enabled non-free sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?\ |
| 17:11.38 | _CM_ | Henry151: yes |
| 17:11.46 | Henry151 | mmk |
| 17:11.54 | _CM_ | Henry151: in Ubuntu the Ubuntu-restricted-extras installs the ms fonts |
| 17:12.47 | phogg | _CM_: the package you want is probably ttf-mscorefonts-installer from contrib. |
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| 17:13.42 | _CM_ | Thank you so much phogg |
| 17:13.44 | _CM_ | got it |
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| 17:14.32 | jelly | !contrib |
| 17:14.32 | dpkg | [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ [stretch|buster|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>. |
| 17:15.29 | _CM_ | phogg: and Henry151 I decided I wanted to see what debian was like vs Ubuntu.. So this is my first time using deb :) |
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| 17:16.53 | Henry151 | _CM_: i hear they are very similar. But people have idealogical attachments to their preferred OS; it's almost like "ford vs chevy" type of stuff. |
| 17:17.06 | _CM_ | Henry151: true |
| 17:17.16 | Henry151 | which of course, obviously Chevy is far superior to Ford. |
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| 17:17.24 | _CM_ | lololololol |
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| 17:17.51 | Henry151 | and Debian is so superior to Ubuntu that I've never, ever, not even once, booted ubuntu on any system ever. |
| 17:17.58 | _CM_ | O_O |
| 17:18.16 | _CM_ | Buntu was my first disto :X |
| 17:18.22 | _CM_ | has been my only distro until now |
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| 17:18.40 | magic_ninja | So alsamixer, pavucontrol and kmix are all out of sync |
| 17:18.47 | _CM_ | Henry151: really deb is superior to ubuntu? |
| 17:18.50 | magic_ninja | It limits my volume at like 40% |
| 17:18.55 | magic_ninja | _CM_, that is subjective. |
| 17:19.08 | Henry151 | but either brand will drive you to the store just as well and either distro should work just fine.. i think the "real advantages" of debian over ubuntu are things like, it doesn't include as much "bloatware" or extra stuff you don't need, and it doesn't include non-free proprietary drivers and things |
| 17:19.16 | _CM_ | So another question............... When Buster comes out do I have to upgrade from strech? |
| 17:19.27 | Henry151 | so it's improvement by ommission |
| 17:19.32 | _CM_ | Henry151: oh |
| 17:19.34 | phogg | _CM_: From my experience Ubuntu sets up more things automatically and is a little more prescriptive about how the system should be configured, whereas Debian is more of a toolbox where you can--and to some extent must--set it up yourself. Some people strongly prefer one style over the other. |
| 17:19.39 | Henry151 | aw that probably only has one m in it.. omission |
| 17:19.52 | _CM_ | phogg: ah |
| 17:20.16 | Henry151 | yeah you can set up an extremely minimal system with debian |
| 17:20.37 | phogg | _CM_: for example I have strong opinions about what software should be used and how the system should be configured, plus I already know how to resolve non-autodetected hardware issues. For me this means Ubuntu provides no real value. |
| 17:20.53 | jhutchins | Ubuntu has a paid staff that works on styling, packaging, development. |
| 17:21.22 | Henry151 | does ubuntu have an option to choose "none" when choosing desktop environment during install? |
| 17:21.22 | jhutchins | It also has links with non-free software sources, and pays for a secure boot key. |
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| 17:21.37 | somiaj | _CM_: when buster is released, stretch becomes oldstable and gets support for 1 year. At that time it then moves to LTS and the LTS team supports it for another 2-5 years (depending on funding and desire). The the LTS team only supports server side software, often during the year of support on stretch, the security team stops support fixes for desktop stuff like browsers and so forth. |
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| 17:22.07 | _CM_ | ah thanks somiaj |
| 17:22.08 | somiaj | Henry151: ubuntu does have an LTS release and a server side version that doesn't incldue a desktop. |
| 17:22.51 | Henry151 | interesting |
| 17:23.16 | somiaj | _CM_: for most destkop users you have about a year after the realse to decide when you want to upgrade that is best for you. Server side has a much longer time frame, because often times it is much harder to upgrade a deployed server and all of its custom apps over a desktop user. |
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| 17:23.54 | somiaj | note there are destkop users who run outdated versions of debian, but this is not supported by anyone and may have security holes in the desktop stuff (espically the browsers) |
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| 17:24.49 | Henry151 | hm |
| 17:25.20 | Henry151 | my "uname -a" says Debian 4.9.168-1+deb9u2 |
| 17:25.25 | Henry151 | am i nice and up-to-date? |
| 17:25.45 | somiaj | Yup |
| 17:25.46 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 17:25.48 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.0.0-trunk-686-pae (5.0.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.19.0-5-686-pae (4.19.37-3); buster: 4.19.0-5-686-pae (4.19.37-3); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.19.37-3~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-9-686 (4.9.168-1+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.9.168-1+deb9u2~deb8u1); wheezy- |
| 17:25.49 | judd | backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1) |
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| 17:26.08 | dvs | Henry151, you're up to date, but we don't know if you're nice or not. ;-P |
| 17:26.23 | Henry151 | hint: i'm a meanie-face |
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| 17:32.06 | coyotea | hi-o! |
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| 17:33.29 | coyotea | i am trying to install crunchbangplusplus (based on deb repos) from a stick and am having issues. it keeps trying to detect cd rom even though there isn't one, and though it boots from the stick, it doesn't seem to want to detect the stick at that point. what if anything am i doing wrong? |
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| 17:34.11 | jhutchins | !crunchbang |
| 17:34.11 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 17:34.32 | coyotea | not crunchbang |
| 17:34.36 | coyotea | successor/fork |
| 17:34.38 | whislock | Not Debian, either. |
| 17:34.39 | coyotea | crunchbangplusplus |
| 17:34.47 | coyotea | yes it is debian |
| 17:34.57 | coyotea | completely debian repos |
| 17:35.12 | jhutchins | coyotea: No, it's not debian, or it would be debian not crunchbang. |
| 17:36.10 | annadane | we can't know the changes other distros have made so supporting them is kind of pointless |
| 17:36.37 | coyotea | my problem might be a pretty basic one |
| 17:37.00 | coyotea | i've had help from here before that was successful, multiple times. thank you people! |
| 17:37.01 | jhutchins | coyotea: Might be. Try it with Debian and we'll be able to help you. |
| 17:37.04 | annadane | my guess is you can set the usb port to boot first from the bios and as to why the usb doesn't boot you may have copied the image incorrectly, but who knows |
| 17:37.33 | coyotea | it does boot.. |
| 17:37.39 | coyotea | that's not what i said |
| 17:37.53 | coyotea | ah i see |
| 17:37.55 | coyotea | it was unclear |
| 17:37.56 | annadane | well, fine, the reason it doesn't detect the stick, then |
| 17:38.16 | jhutchins | coyotea: Usually that's either a bad "burn", a corrupt image, or the wrong image. |
| 17:38.33 | coyotea | it boots, but during the installation process it keeps trying to detect cd rom but won't detect the stick |
| 17:38.44 | coyotea | ok |
| 17:39.01 | coyotea | i will try elsewhere |
| 17:39.07 | annadane | try ##linux maybe |
| 17:39.08 | coyotea | thx for your time |
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| 17:39.14 | jhutchins | coyotea: Try the debian installer instead! |
| 17:39.20 | annadane | if you can't find the support resources for crunchbangplusplus |
| 17:39.48 | firespeaker | Henry151: lol |
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| 17:39.58 | somiaj | to bad debian can't enforce that irc apps in derivatives don't default to #debian...haha |
| 17:40.39 | annadane | if you set the default irc channel to #debian, what does that say about the quality of your distro anyway |
| 17:40.47 | Henry151 | hehe |
| 17:40.49 | dvs | true |
| 17:40.52 | annadane | granted it's not the same person working on everything but... |
| 17:40.55 | jhutchins | somiaj: The obvious solution is for the Debian packages not default to #debian. |
| 17:40.59 | ggoes | potentially an obvious question, but is there a way to tell apt that a certain locally built package should not be considered "obsolete" |
| 17:41.05 | whislock | Default to #actually-devian |
| 17:41.08 | whislock | Debian, rather. |
| 17:41.50 | annadane | (there's a new Parrot release and now OFTC #debian predictably has a new influx of users) |
| 17:41.54 | jhutchins | ggoes: You'd have to set the version number to allways be higher than the official package somehow, or pin/hold it. |
| 17:42.35 | Henry151 | i used to have so much fun, before i learned the error of my ways and started doing things right, but i'd have so much fun bouncing back and forth from being told in #kali-linux "this is a purpose-built distro for specific penetration-testing applications and we will not help you get Netflix working leave us alone" and being told here in #debian "that is not debian leave us alone" |
| 17:42.35 | firespeaker | no one else is getting "undefined symbol: gdk_wayland_display_get_type" errors after a dist-upgrade with testing or unstable when they try to start e.g. eog, atril, etc.? |
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| 17:42.48 | risingtide | Hello again |
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| 17:42.51 | somiaj | jhutchins: I was thinking of some build time conditional statement that coudl detect if it was pure debian or not to switch default between say ##linux and #debian |
| 17:43.29 | jelly | firespeaker: is it testing or unstable? |
| 17:43.30 | risingtide | I don't have much time on the computer, but I am trying to get mongodb installed and then nodeBB |
| 17:43.38 | firespeaker | jelly: I get the issue in both |
| 17:43.38 | risingtide | I am using this tutorial |
| 17:43.39 | risingtide | https://docs.nodebb.org/installing/os/debian/ |
| 17:43.39 | somiaj | Henry151: well kali says right on their webpage that it is nto intneded for desktop end user use and to choose a different distro if that is your goal. |
| 17:43.46 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 17:43.46 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:43.50 | jhutchins | somiaj: I'm pretty sure it could be fixed in the debian package, because these derivatives just install the stock debian package. |
| 17:43.54 | risingtide | Is there an alternet setup method for mongodb? |
| 17:43.58 | jelly | firespeaker: ^ try there for unstable |
| 17:44.05 | risingtide | I set it up and can't seem to log in |
| 17:44.22 | somiaj | jhutchins: sure, but they rebuild the package (I think over just using the binaries to get depends correct) so if at build time it could detect what to set, it would then carry through. |
| 17:44.24 | firespeaker | jelly: ah, right, thanks for reminding me |
| 17:44.31 | Henry151 | somiaj: yeah but i was stubborn -- "backtrack" linux when i was 12 or 13 was my introduction to linux |
| 17:44.48 | jelly | somiaj: there are many derivatives that use debian's binary .debs as -is |
| 17:45.29 | risingtide | https://pastebin.com/44H2VdXp |
| 17:45.36 | Henry151 | and i thought "yeah yeah of course you're not supposed to use it this way but i like to" .. i'm 27 now, i switched to debian over the last 8 or 9 years kinda gradually, one system at a time, but now i'm fully a debian purist at this point |
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| 17:45.46 | jhutchins | somiaj: Set the default to undernet. |
| 17:45.50 | jelly | a build-time change would only fix the best behaved ones with their own build infrastructure |
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| 17:46.36 | jelly | and honestly a distro that has resources to set up their own buildds etc probably also has resources to accept some patches |
| 17:46.55 | risingtide | actually mongo -u nodebb -p is the same |
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| 17:48.29 | firespeaker | jelly: does "need to be identified and verified" mean something beyond being identified with nickserv (with a nick registered with nickserv)? |
| 17:48.32 | annadane | i think i'll always have debian on *some* parition or computer even if i use something else, it really is the hallmark of reliability/features |
| 17:49.01 | firespeaker | I'm totally identified with nickserv on irc.oftc.net, but #debian-next isn't letting me in |
| 17:49.03 | annadane | firespeaker, it's on oftc, not freenode |
| 17:49.05 | annadane | ah |
| 17:49.05 | jhutchins | firespeaker: Yes, see the oftc website. |
| 17:49.10 | jmcnaught | risingtide: the guide you linked to instructs installing mongodb 4 from mongodb.org, and in your paste it says MongoDB shell version: 3.2.11 which is the version distributed with stretch⦠do you have a mix-match of mongodb packages from Debian and upstream? |
| 17:49.13 | firespeaker | thanks jhutchins |
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| 17:49.32 | firespeaker | jhutchins: for the record, it says query nickserv about it, but nickserv says nothing about the "verified" piece |
| 17:49.39 | firespeaker | bah irc should all be in irc |
| 17:49.43 | firespeaker | none of this "web" stuff |
| 17:49.57 | jelly | firespeaker: that's pretty much it, but NickServ procedure on oftc is slightly different than freenode |
| 17:50.21 | firespeaker | "In other words, make sure to verify your newly registered nickname using the web interface." |
| 17:50.25 | firespeaker | I see |
| 17:51.26 | firespeaker | oh lol it's just a captcha |
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| 17:51.37 | Henry151 | i wonder how many active (like, actually active) people are on freenode IRC? i feel like it's a pretty expansive community, yet, it's also a small world in a way, see a lot of the same usernames |
| 17:52.51 | annadane | it's all the same person talking to themselves |
| 17:52.52 | risingtide | hmmm....maybe |
| 17:53.17 | risingtide | jmcnaught, thanks I didn't even notice that |
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| 17:53.41 | risingtide | I maybe have to uninstal 3 and add 4 from a sources list? |
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| 17:54.20 | jhutchins | ,v mongodb |
| 17:54.20 | jmcnaught | risingtide: if you are following that guide then it appears so. Note however that the mongodb.org packages would not be supported in #debian |
| 17:54.21 | judd | Package: mongodb on amd64 -- jessie: 1:2.4.10-5+deb8u1; stretch: 1:3.2.11-2+deb9u1; sid: 1:3.4.18-2+b1 |
| 17:54.56 | jhutchins | risingtide: Looks like you need to build your own .deb from the upstream source. |
| 17:54.58 | Henry151 | so i have some sort of dav2fs thing set up and when i followed the instructions i added a line like my.websiteURL/nextcloud/remote.php/dav/files/henry/ /home/henry/nextcloud davfs user,rw,auto 0 0 to my /etc/fstab |
| 17:55.04 | Henry151 | it worked |
| 17:55.19 | Henry151 | i run mount /home/henry/nextcloud and it becomes a dav storage thing |
| 17:55.37 | Henry151 | but, when i reboot my system, it won't boot up until i comment out those /etc/fstab lines |
| 17:55.43 | Henry151 | any guidance on fixing that? |
| 17:56.11 | jhutchins | Henry151: Make the dav system noauto and mount it manually or with automount. |
| 17:56.28 | jhutchins | Henry151: You might get by with adding the _netdev option in fstab. |
| 17:56.36 | Henry151 | ah, change "auto" to "noauto" in the /etc/fstab ? |
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| 17:56.44 | Henry151 | i don't need it to be auto |
| 17:56.48 | Henry151 | i so rarely reboot anyway |
| 17:57.07 | ksk | related to network not being completele up at the time of mounting maybe. |
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| 17:57.26 | Henry151 | i set it up like, two weeks ago, and hadn't rebooted since, so when i rebooted earlier i had a hard time thinking of what recent change i might have made to cause problems |
| 17:57.36 | Henry151 | ksk: that makes sense |
| 17:57.38 | ksk | you could also create a systemd unit file for that "mounting service" and set it AFTER=networking or so |
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| 17:58.24 | someoneintheclou | OS: 64 bit Windows 10 Professional (Version 10.0 1809 Build 17763.503), CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz @ 2712 MHz 512 KB Cache, MEM: 8047 MB, 16% (1280 MB) free, DISKS: total 237 GB - 119 GB free, GFX: Intel(R) HD Graphics 620 1024 MB, SCREEN: Wide viewing angle & High density FlexView Display 1920x1080, 1920 x 1080 @ 32 bit, 60 Hz, AUDIO: Intel(R) Display Audio, UPTIME: 4 d, 10 h, |
| 17:58.24 | someoneintheclou | 41 m |
| 17:58.52 | Henry151 | ksk: interesting |
| 17:59.01 | Henry151 | i actually want to convert a bunch of my stuff into systemd things |
| 17:59.23 | Henry151 | i like systemd and i feel like it would be perfect for a number of little things i have running all the time |
| 17:59.34 | ksk | systemd all the things! \o/ |
| 17:59.53 | Henry151 | like, my rtl_fm & darkice setup that broadcasts a scanner radio feed to the internet for people to tune in and listen |
| 18:00.00 | Henry151 | romp.pw/music |
| 18:00.17 | ksk | someoneintheclou: less interesting, please dont. |
| 18:00.36 | Henry151 | laughs |
| 18:00.50 | Henry151 | ok i'm going to actually go get coffee |
| 18:01.04 | annadane | systemd-extend-embrace-extinguish.service |
| 18:01.06 | Henry151 | i've been marked "away "getting coffee" for a while but it hasn't been true |
| 18:01.30 | Henry151 | when someone mentions me, does it spit a message at them telling them that i'm away? or only if they direct message me? |
| 18:01.43 | annadane | Henry151, ping |
| 18:01.50 | annadane | only message |
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| 18:02.29 | Henry151 | annadane: that sent me a text message tho :D got that hilight-sms irssi script set up yesterday it's dope. If i mark myself away, all messages with my name in them get texted to me. |
| 18:02.54 | ksk | careful if you have a "pay per sms" contract :P |
| 18:02.54 | annadane | i'm sure it's easier with systemd! |
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| 18:03.11 | Henry151 | haha nah i have unlimited sms |
| 18:03.25 | risingtide | okay is there any way to install a specific version? Can I install v4 for debian 9? |
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| 18:03.33 | Henry151 | and twilio also doesn't charge per message, they charge like $1/month per phone number |
| 18:04.20 | Henry151 | i also have my vps where irssi is running set up so i can ssh into it and tmux to irssi, from my cell phone, so if i get one of those texts and urgently feel the need to reply, i can do it from wherever i'm at |
| 18:04.48 | Henry151 | though i should set up some sort of reverse-channel, where i can reply to the SMS directly and have it reply in IRC |
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| 18:10.11 | risingtide | sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv 9DA31620334BD75D9DCB49F368818C72E52529D4 |
| 18:10.16 | risingtide | first step fails |
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| 18:11.10 | risingtide | https://pastebin.com/PWy1vdt2 |
| 18:11.14 | annadane | you'ree trying to install version 4 of what? |
| 18:11.19 | risingtide | mongodb |
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| 18:11.25 | risingtide | on debian 9 |
| 18:11.30 | risingtide | trying to add the key |
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| 18:11.48 | annadane | well, for dirmngr you just need the dirmngr package, i'm unsure if it's safe to install from ubuntu, though |
| 18:11.56 | annadane | you need dirmngr for key stuff |
| 18:12.11 | risingtide | can I apt-get install dirmngr? |
| 18:12.14 | annadane | yes |
| 18:13.05 | risingtide | sweet |
| 18:13.11 | risingtide | thanks it works |
| 18:13.16 | magic_ninja | I'm getting incorrect battery readings. Where would I start with that? |
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| 18:13.46 | magic_ninja | I've found upower, did upower --help and gotten the two batteries and their paths |
| 18:14.21 | vifino | Hey. I'm trying to get ZFS installed on Debian Buster/Hetzner's Recovery Linux. It's complaining about a lacking asm/i387.h, where would I find that? I tried the debian package search and found nothing. |
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| 18:15.44 | annadane | risingtide, be advised that mongodb is being dropped from buster and buster releases pretty soon |
| 18:15.55 | annadane | https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/ah9svc/mongodb_alternative/ |
| 18:16.10 | annadane | or, well, okay, you're installing from ubuntu anyway |
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| 18:39.06 | petn-randall | vifino: No package in Debian contains this file. So you might need to explain the context a bit more. |
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| 20:15.11 | quintus | Hi everyone... I was looking into using TLS client certificates for securing my e-mail account (selfhosted). I have a Yubikey that I would like to use for storing the private key. I'm currently using mSMTP as my SMTP client, but it does not support smartcards. Does anyone know a commandline SMTP client that supports smartcards for TLS client certificates? |
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| 20:47.36 | annadane | how can i close a pesky imagemagick window that won't close graphically? i'm trying to kill it from the shell but you can't invoke "imagemagick", i forget the actual name |
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| 20:48.03 | humpled | convert ? |
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| 20:48.33 | quintus | annadane: I think the "imagemagick window" is called "display". Try $ killall display |
| 20:48.52 | humpled | :þ |
| 20:48.59 | annadane | yeah display, thanks |
| 20:49.22 | humpled | lucky |
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| 21:35.11 | iamgr00t | just turned on microshaft E3.. what have i missed so far? |
| 21:35.19 | iamgr00t | anyone watching catch me up? |
| 21:35.27 | phogg | iamgr00t: what is it? |
| 21:35.39 | iamgr00t | omg, soooo sorry.. wrong window.. DERP! |
| 21:35.43 | iamgr00t | really sorry! |
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| 21:53.16 | tammykay | Imprison Those Who Expose the Lies of History: https://www.bitchute.com/video/h8C8zLukpyTS/ (When history comes to you forced by law, one thing is sure. Itâs a lie.) |
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| 22:27.55 | OS46539 | #flood |
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| 22:32.34 | jhutchins | On stretch chromium, my browser doesn't have the maximize/minimize or window-shade butttons, just the x to close. |
| 22:32.46 | jhutchins | .v chromium |
| 22:32.54 | jhutchins | ,v chromium |
| 22:32.55 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 70.0.3538.110-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 73.0.3683.75-1~deb9u1; buster: 73.0.3683.75-1; sid: 74.0.3729.108-1 |
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| 22:38.41 | EdePopede | didn't they switch to "let's ignore window decorations"? |
| 22:39.16 | jhutchins | I dunno, it's the debian package. |
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| 22:39.38 | jhutchins | Other windows are normal. |
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| 22:39.42 | leorat | mine still has them |
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| 22:41.21 | jhutchins | "Use system title bar and borders just eliminates the X. GTK Theme just turns the title bar dark. |
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| 23:05.53 | eblip | hey i m thinking of installing debian. but i dont want any of the gnome stuff |
| 23:05.59 | eblip | i want to use xmonad |
| 23:06.02 | eblip | how do i do that |
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| 23:06.23 | eblip | does the install have an option for like just installing x |
| 23:06.43 | eblip | and then i can install urxvt |
| 23:06.51 | eblip | i want a thin install |
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| 23:11.33 | annadane | eblip, in the installer just uncheck "desktop environment" and you can later install xorg/xmonad |
| 23:11.42 | eblip | ah great |
| 23:11.48 | annadane | and either start it with startx or a display manager |
| 23:12.12 | eblip | ill try that |
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| 23:12.38 | eblip | im trying to find something i can set up entire system on different machines in just a couple hours |
| 23:13.28 | annadane | i really wish startx automagically worked across all DE/WM but you have to do slightly different things for each, the man page should tell you |
| 23:13.28 | SaintXae | Hi all, playing around with Linux. Have an HP Stream, was told to ask here for help. Booting from LiveCD nonfree on USB stick, and trying to find out how to configure wifi to work. Can I get some help, please? Thanks in advance. |
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| 23:13.58 | eblip | i normally use startx ...but hopefully will be straightforward |
| 23:16.15 | annadane | if you grep /usr/bin for xmonad and put exec <something>, whatever it is, in .xinitrc it ought to work i guess |
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| 23:16.27 | annadane | you can't do that with say xfce, it has its own arcane bullshit you have to follow |
| 23:17.38 | eblip | ah i think i tried xfce once, didnt like it ..with xmonad its just windows and the terminal of your choice...i like urxvt because its much lighter than gnome terminal and if you have like 50 terminal open its easy on the cpu |
| 23:18.09 | eblip | on my crappy machines anyway its noticeable |
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| 23:23.59 | BazookaTooth | eblip: i use i3 and sakura on a really old netbook |
| 23:24.06 | eblip | nice |
| 23:24.18 | eblip | yes i3 would be my next choice of window manager |
| 23:24.32 | eblip | these window manager really perform well |
| 23:24.41 | eblip | i dont really like the desktop enviornment any more |
| 23:25.18 | humpled | that's nice for you |
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| 23:25.36 | eblip | yes straight down to business no frills |
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| 23:27.46 | humpled | grep have a look at the output of the command lspci --nn | grep -i network |
| 23:27.55 | humpled | oops |
| 23:28.10 | humpled | SaintXae ^^ |
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| 23:28.27 | _0xbadc0de | hy |
| 23:28.41 | annadane | it's lspci -nn |
| 23:28.52 | annadane | - is for short options and -- is for long options |
| 23:29.04 | _0xbadc0de | can you help me with setting up wireless via bash on my newly acquired laptop? |
| 23:29.06 | SaintXae | lspci: command not found |
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| 23:30.06 | _0xbadc0de | lspci -nn | grep Network will yield: Network Controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:24fd] (rev 78) |
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| 23:30.17 | _0xbadc0de | can you guys tell me what to do? |
| 23:30.25 | _0xbadc0de | I have already installed firmware |
| 23:30.51 | annadane | you guys have basically the same question :P |
| 23:31.05 | annadane | SaintXae, try installing it i guess |
| 23:31.22 | SaintXae | OK. |
| 23:31.25 | SaintXae | TY. :) |
| 23:33.14 | _0xbadc0de | iwlist scan works |
| 23:34.36 | humpled | they're right, lspci is not in the base iso |
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| 23:35.52 | LtL | _0xbadc0de: sudo dhclient <interface> |
| 23:35.54 | _0xbadc0de | in /etc/network/interfaces when I Ident for wireless-essid, can I use a tab? |
| 23:36.10 | LtL | tes |
| 23:36.15 | LtL | yes rather |
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| 23:36.59 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: wtf do I put in wireless-mode? |
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| 23:37.12 | _0xbadc0de | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 23:37.40 | LtL | in wireless-mode? i don't follow |
| 23:37.57 | _0xbadc0de | iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 23:37.57 | _0xbadc0de | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.58 | _0xbadc0de | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:39.19 | LtL | _0xbadc0de: make /etc/network/imterfaces look like this and edit as needed. http://paste.debian.net/1087143/ |
| 23:39.50 | LtL | i don't know about wireless-mode |
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| 23:40.41 | LtL | that config will work if youre using dhcp addressing |
| 23:41.31 | LtL | and wpa/psk which you probably are, adjust accordingly |
| 23:41.47 | _0xbadc0de | ok |
| 23:41.58 | _0xbadc0de | I did that and I have ran into some problems.. |
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| 23:42.14 | _0xbadc0de | It gets stuck on DHCPDISCOVER on wlo1 |
| 23:42.23 | LtL | _0xbadc0de: after thats done issue, 'sudo dhclient <interface>' |
| 23:42.27 | _0xbadc0de | then I get back "No DHCPOFFERS received" |
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| 23:43.08 | LtL | _0xbadc0de: what are you connecting to? |
| 23:43.17 | _0xbadc0de | shouldnt work (but trying regardless), I did ifup/ifdown wlo1 |
| 23:43.27 | _0xbadc0de | normal wireless router at home |
| 23:43.51 | LtL | _0xbadc0de: and is the router doing dhcp |
| 23:44.01 | LtL | it should be |
| 23:44.36 | _0xbadc0de | It is |
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| 23:45.09 | LtL | did you just install firmware? |
| 23:45.35 | _0xbadc0de | I mean I am 99.99999999999999999999999999% percent sure as all devices were connected without problems and I never had to do anything really + its a normal user router device provided by ISP |
| 23:45.41 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: yes |
| 23:46.05 | LtL | have you rebooted, for firmware, you need to |
| 23:46.18 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: dhclient terminated ping 8.8.8.8 not working |
| 23:46.24 | LtL | then it should come up if that file is correct |
| 23:47.02 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: I have installed firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-5_all.deb |
| 23:47.02 | LtL | sudo dmesg |grep -i firmware |
| 23:47.56 | LtL | missing firmware or failed to load same? |
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| 23:48.18 | _0xbadc0de | ill put up the picture I took with my phone |
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| 23:49.01 | LtL | did you reboot after installing firmware iwlwifi ??? |
| 23:49.14 | _0xbadc0de | I think so, I can try again |
| 23:49.25 | LtL | its a must |
| 23:49.36 | _0xbadc0de | let me retry then |
| 23:49.50 | _0xbadc0de | iwlist scan works, so we cant be too far off |
| 23:50.04 | risingtide | hmmm |
| 23:50.11 | risingtide | https://pastebin.com/igN6METf |
| 23:50.24 | risingtide | 'settling for mongodb 3 |
| 23:50.25 | _0xbadc0de | https://ibb.co/zPjYLNz (before reboot) |
| 23:50.35 | risingtide | but this isn't working right |
| 23:50.37 | risingtide | idk |
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| 23:52.04 | risingtide | is it saying there's a port conflict? |
| 23:52.13 | LtL | ,pciid 8086:24fd |
| 23:52.14 | judd | [8086:24fd] is 'Wireless 8265 / 8275' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:24fd http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 23:52.52 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: I get the same complaints from the Kernel loader as iwlwifi fails to load |
| 23:53.01 | _0xbadc0de | now as I boot up |
| 23:53.42 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: is the firmware I have installed incorrect? Do I need additional drivers? |
| 23:54.24 | LtL | _0xbadc0de: are you sure you installed the correct version iwlwifi, are you on stretch? |
| 23:55.13 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: I dont know if the version I installed is the correct one, I just followed directions from someone here |
| 23:55.16 | _0xbadc0de | previously |
| 23:55.28 | _0xbadc0de | firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-5_all.deb was absolutely what I have installed |
| 23:56.15 | LtL | im pretty sure thats the right one for stable, i don't know why it fails |
| 23:56.19 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: I am running debian 9 (stretch) but only very minimal, as netinst could not connect to the internet |
| 23:56.57 | LtL | you probably are missing wpa_supplicant |
| 23:57.31 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: can I use stretch? or do I need other debian version if I want wifi? |
| 23:57.46 | LtL | try this, dpkg -l wpasupplicant |
| 23:57.57 | LtL | thats a lower case L |
| 23:58.21 | _0xbadc0de | LtL: this machine has no internet access |
| 23:58.40 | _0xbadc0de | so Id have to download and put on a usb stick and dpkg -i <> inside it |
| 23:59.08 | LtL | doesn't matter, dpkg -l wpasupplicant tells us its insalled or not |
| 23:59.30 | _0xbadc0de | "no packages found"... |
| 23:59.34 | jmcnaught | risingtide: use "sudo ss -tulpn" to see which processes are using which socket, you can pipe it to grep with the port you're looking for. By the way where did you get OpenSSL 1.0.2r 26 Feb 2019? |
| 23:59.38 | LtL | yes to that if you dont have |