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| 00:59.42 | vmrod25 | hi team I am new in debian and I am trying to build a .deb. I am using pdebuild --use-pdebuild-internal but I have dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: Unmet build dependencies: <name of my local dep>. Is there any way to tell pdebuild please use this local directory as repo for your build time dependencies ? |
| 00:59.46 | vmrod25 | thanks |
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| 01:28.45 | jetscreamer | acquire pdiffs false not working in buster? |
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| 01:32.11 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 01:32.14 | jetscreamer | !botsnack |
| 01:32.14 | dpkg | jetscreamer: aw, gee |
| 01:32.42 | jetscreamer | old way no workie |
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| 02:03.12 | bunni | Anyone here deal with the Debian cross toolchains? Have a specific need for Debian Jessie x86 to have cross compiler for armhf. This has worked in the past: https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains#For_jessie_.28Debian_8.29 but now it fails to install crossbuild-essential-armhf dur to unmet dependency hell on a fresh install. |
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| 02:39.23 | agio | hi, does anyone use PHP with debian? are there doc's or guides available for installing and configuring php? e.g adding extensions etc? |
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| 02:43.05 | Blondie101010 | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+install+php+7.2 gives me really good results |
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| 02:47.40 | agio | hah, what is that lmgtfy.com website |
| 02:47.44 | agio | ? |
| 02:48.01 | Blondie101010 | can't you open a link? |
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| 02:49.07 | jcb2016 | Blondie101010: you have to be less obvious with the lmgtfy websites. you have to hide it in some url shortner so people don't see it |
| 02:49.11 | jcb2016 | :D |
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| 02:55.53 | ArchDebian | I have an Optimus Laptop (a laptop with 2 video cards: Intel & Nvidia). Is a good idea to install Bumblebee and switch between the cards, or is better just install nvidia drivers and only use this video card? |
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| 03:06.16 | Voldenet | ArchDebian: well, I've never used it, but theoretically intel card eats a lot less energy |
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| 03:06.49 | Voldenet | I'd test both ways and see if the power usage is really that different though |
| 03:10.30 | ArchDebian | Voldenet: yes, but I don't use my battery so much... maybe just use nvidia 100% of the time is better... tks |
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| 03:11.09 | Voldenet | I'm pretty sure it's a lot less hassle if you don't use the battery much |
| 03:11.55 | ArchDebian | yes, you are right... the switch process is a little complicate |
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| 03:15.59 | Ascavasaion | i am trying to get my Broadcom wireless NIC to work. I have installed firmware-b43-lpphy-installer and apt detects the card, but it is telling me "Connecting to downloads.openwrt.org (downloads.openwrt.org)|2a01:4f8:202:43ea::2|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently" AND then "Connecting to sources.openwrt.org (sources.openwrt.org)|2a01:4f8:202:43ea::3|:80... connected. HTTP request |
| 03:15.59 | Ascavasaion | sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2019-03-06 11:09:27 ERROR 404: Not Found." |
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| 03:16.14 | Ascavasaion | anyone with a heads-up please? |
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| 03:23.09 | Voldenet | Ascavasaion: `apt update` maybe |
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| 03:23.22 | Ascavasaion | Voldenet, Tried that |
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| 03:24.25 | friendofafriend | Do you see the URL its requesting? |
| 03:25.42 | Ascavasaion | Yes, I think... its in my first message, downloads.openwrt.org and sources.openwrt.org |
| 03:25.58 | friendofafriend | That's just a domain name, do you have the entire URL? |
| 03:26.23 | Ascavasaion | http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2 |
| 03:26.47 | Ascavasaion | http://sources.openwrt.org/broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2 |
| 03:26.54 | Ascavasaion | Those two URL's |
| 03:27.00 | friendofafriend | It's here. http://download.geexbox.org/firmwares/WiFi/broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2 |
| 03:28.12 | Ascavasaion | friendofafriend, Oh, awesome! thank you. do I extract it into /lib/firmware? |
| 03:28.56 | friendofafriend | According to this, it does appear that way. https://jargonsummary.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/how-to-manually-install-broadcom-bcm4312-wireless-drivers-on-debian-without-an-internet-connection/ |
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| 03:36.04 | Ascavasaion | so I just extract the directory into /lib/firmware and then? Reboot? |
| 03:38.23 | hanasaki | ideas how to debug a kvm VM times out getting a dhcp IP from a bridge on the host? |
| 03:38.45 | friendofafriend | Ascavasaion: Article doesn't say that, I don't think. |
| 03:38.51 | Voldenet | no idea, but i'd try tcpdump |
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| 03:39.15 | Ascavasaion | friendofafriend, Then I am stumped...because the second link you gave is dealing with deb packages, and I downloaded a compressed source |
| 03:39.51 | hanasaki | Voldenet: could you help with the usage of tcdump please? |
| 03:39.58 | Voldenet | Oh wait, it's a timeout |
| 03:40.15 | Voldenet | hmmm, hanasaki: are you sure kvm is connected to your dhcp server? |
| 03:40.27 | Voldenet | i'd try using static ip |
| 03:40.53 | hanasaki | Voldenet: yes. connected I think so . howto verify? |
| 03:41.10 | friendofafriend | Ascavasaion: Right, it appears you'd install the b43-fwcutter package, that archive, and then untar the archive and in its directory run "sudo b43-cutter -w /lib/firmware ./linux/wl_apsta.o". |
| 03:41.41 | Voldenet | hanasaki: just configure the machine inside with static ip and check if you can ping the router â(´ï½`ï¼)â |
| 03:42.00 | Voldenet | (it's not failsafe, your router could ignore icmp pings) |
| 03:42.05 | Voldenet | (but it may work) |
| 03:42.11 | Voldenet | (and it's just an idea xP) |
| 03:43.52 | hanasaki | pciehp .... failed to check link status in syslog |
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| 03:47.29 | pagetelegram | how do I use coalesce option for imagemagick convert command (Or other option) to layer a sequence of images as layers in a new image (ie tiff)? |
| 03:47.40 | pagetelegram | I don't want to flatten |
| 03:53.32 | Ascavasaion | friendofafriend, It is detecting the card now. It connects... but unable to ping internal network, router, or external... as in Internet. Going to try a reboot |
| 03:54.08 | friendofafriend | Ascavasaion: Sure, reboot is probably a good move. Then you can check dmesg. |
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| 03:59.55 | Ascavasaion | friendofafriend, It seems to be working, thank you |
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| 04:00.43 | friendofafriend | You're very welcome, happy to hear it. Good luck to you, Ascavasaion. |
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| 04:14.45 | pagetelegram | looks like -adjoin though not sure to put before or after....been faxing out a lot of black pages doing all this testing and my toner I'm afriad may run out by the time I figure this out. |
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| 04:31.05 | pagetelegram | what is watchdog MPI cpu0 lockup errors in kernel....been getting those lately? Is it a sign of a dying processor? |
| 04:31.26 | pagetelegram | kernel:[287360.230596] NMI watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 0 |
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| 04:33.58 | pagetelegram | I've had this laptop running 24x7 for almost a month....these kernel errors mean I should give it a rest for a night? |
| 04:35.11 | dvs | I don't think laptops were meant to run for so long. |
| 04:35.51 | gigoplast | agree with @dvs |
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| 04:36.22 | gigoplast | the SBD too |
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| 04:38.32 | gigoplast | i guess a little mess with cnx §§ |
| 04:40.18 | gigoplast | who has dnscrypt-proxy running i need to know something about ? |
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| 04:48.01 | pagetelegram | I am wondering if multi-image tiffs for faxing are rather a montage than a layered coalesce. Anyone know? This maybe why I keep faxing out black. |
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| 04:53.16 | themill | pagetelegram: normally a tiff stack but there are so many different ways of putting data into a tiff it's not funny. |
| 04:54.15 | pagetelegram | the -append option I will try next. That stacks the images from top to bottom |
| 04:54.52 | pagetelegram | It seems I have to do this in two convert commands, doing it in one line still produces images for every page. |
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| 05:01.01 | themill | I'm not sure what the encapsulated data format is for faxes though. Presumably B&W not greyscale. |
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| 05:10.51 | xormor | what can you discover about my site? --> dyt4nxhyy7scgbtjq-r2t-4.rev.dnainternet.fi |
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| 05:17.15 | pagetelegram | I got the encapsulated data format correct, using the G3:filename.tiff arguement, so I got it almost working. 4 four page tiff faxes as one and a quarter page. Not sure what else to look into. Stumpt. Though I made progress. No more blank pages. I decided to conver to G3 at the very end of the image conversions. |
| 05:17.47 | pagetelegram | *no more black pages I mean |
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| 05:18.22 | pagetelegram | And I wrote my batch program to preview the file first before faxing using framebufferimage (fbi) |
| 05:18.58 | pagetelegram | Still a lot of progress I want to get done with my batch program, just awaiting until I can get over these faxing stumpts. |
| 05:20.16 | pagetelegram | Also efax command does not see the multimage tiff as multipage....which maybe part of the issue. It sees it as just one image. Going to look over if I can specifiy page count with efax command |
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| 05:30.30 | pagetelegram | hmmm can;t find anything. going to try postscript methods. postscript does raster or is that vector only? I'll find out. |
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| 05:43.49 | pagetelegram | ps files just printed out as text....looking for more flags to use to get this working... |
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| 05:49.16 | pagetelegram | oh I need to use the fax command for ps files....all these times I thought using efax was an easier program....fax it is. testing in a few....arguments are different. |
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| 05:54.10 | pagetelegram | I wonder how fax does not have argument for com port dev specification....going to try it anyhow. New horizon perhaps |
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| 05:56.58 | pagetelegram | just as I thought fax command opening the wrong tty port. hmmm |
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| 06:20.31 | pagetelegram | Dang how do I get fax command to go to ttyS0 port keeps going to ttyS1, or can I do some alias trick? |
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| 06:26.00 | jelly | pagetelegram: surely there's a config file of some sort somewhere, perhaps part of the package? |
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| 06:30.35 | gigoplast | if any one interested to morning crypto-news | >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3cswhfr |
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| 06:34.39 | pagetelegram | So how do I tell fax command to pick a different port. It uses config file ~/.efaxrc and I don't know what arguments to put there. |
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| 06:35.43 | pagetelegram | I figured it out....in the rc file just put the efax command with the arguments you want. Then fax command does the rest |
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| 08:06.14 | Fox | Kurogane: Raid 1 read occurs on the most responsive disk in the array |
| 08:06.42 | Fox | read performance could increase, but that's not totally sure |
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| 08:42.04 | GNU\colossus | is there a utility that can tell me wheter or not I have booted the most recently installed kernel image? (like like `checkrestart` from debian-goodies can do for processes that have outdated shared libs loaded) |
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| 08:46.46 | hwm4rgs | GNU\colossus: `needrestart` does this |
| 08:46.54 | ArlequInOut | GNU\colossus, see kernel versions in /boot and compare to "uname -r" |
| 08:47.03 | hwm4rgs | it also checks services like what you describe |
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| 08:50.39 | GNU\colossus | hwm4rgs, thanks! |
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| 09:17.21 | vedranm | why does dkms on 686 recommend only PAE kernel headers? |
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| 09:19.37 | jelly | vedranm: there aren't any other builds any more? |
| 09:19.56 | vedranm | jelly: there is also non-PAE kernel still |
| 09:20.01 | jelly | nope |
| 09:20.09 | jelly | not in stretch there ain't |
| 09:20.54 | jelly | oh, I'm wrong |
| 09:21.05 | vedranm | both in stretch and buster there is non-PAE kernel |
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| 09:21.15 | vedranm | I need non-PAE for this particular appliance |
| 09:21.20 | jelly | so install it. |
| 09:21.35 | vedranm | I did, I'm just curious why dkms automaticall pulled the wrong headers |
| 09:21.41 | jelly | you want to install headers matching the actual running kernel anyway |
| 09:21.52 | jelly | ,recommends dkms |
| 09:21.53 | judd | Package dkms in stretch/amd64 -- recommends: fakeroot, sudo, linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-amd64 | linux-headers-generic | linux-headers, lsb-release. |
| 09:21.53 | vedranm | I did |
| 09:22.23 | vedranm | exactly, it should be something like linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-686 ... |
| 09:22.24 | jelly | apparently it pulled those because you did not have any headers installed in advance |
| 09:22.30 | jelly | it IS |
| 09:22.41 | vedranm | wait |
| 09:22.51 | vedranm | something like linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-amd64 | linux-headers-686 ... |
| 09:23.06 | vedranm | and it's linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-amd64 | (no 686 non-PAE) ... |
| 09:23.19 | jelly | if you'd used aptitude you'd've been able to coerce it to satisfy the alternative dependency with a different package |
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| 09:23.49 | jelly | ,provides linux-headers-686 |
| 09:23.49 | vedranm | I did and linux-headers-686 doesn't have reverse dep on dkms, while linux-headers-686-pae does |
| 09:23.49 | judd | No package named 'linux-headers-686' was found in stretch/amd64. |
| 09:23.53 | vedranm | I'll just open a bug |
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| 09:24.35 | jelly | ,whatprovides linux-headers --arch i386 |
| 09:24.46 | judd | No packages provide 'linux-headers' in stretch/i386. |
| 09:24.51 | jelly | ,whatprovides linux-headers-generic --arch i386 |
| 09:24.55 | judd | No packages provide 'linux-headers-generic' in stretch/i386. |
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| 09:25.36 | jelly | that's the real issue, those virtual packages fail to exist at all. Enumerating every possible build in dkms is probably silly. |
| 09:26.04 | jelly | ,recommends dkms --arch i386 |
| 09:26.06 | judd | Package dkms in stretch/i386 -- recommends: fakeroot, sudo, linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-amd64 | linux-headers-generic | linux-headers, lsb-release. |
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| 09:26.43 | jelly | not even linux-headers-amd64 exists in i386 any more |
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| 09:28.30 | vedranm | oh really |
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| 09:29.16 | vedranm | indeed, you're right |
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| 09:29.49 | vedranm | so the bug exists https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918918 |
| 09:30.03 | vedranm | and it's exactly the same use case that I have |
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| 09:36.03 | jelly | good thing it's only a Recommends, eh? |
| 09:37.26 | jelly | vedranm: still worth reporting that the same issuse is Found: 2.3-2 |
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| 10:49.55 | bony | getting inteldrmfb error https://bugs.debian.org/914495 while trying to install on dell inspiron 3168. I get this error while booting normally "switching to inteldrmfb from efi vga". When I add nomodeset in grub the system boots in to tty but no gui starts. tried lightdm, lxdm and gdm3 non of them start. I tried disabling i915 dirvers but it did not help. As mentioned in the bug this issues was resolved in 4.19 and upwards kernels but I get this error on debian |
| 10:49.55 | bony | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:58.47 | JonTargaryen | hello |
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| 10:59.04 | JonTargaryen | i'm new to linux and any distro of it, and i'm willing to learn it |
| 10:59.36 | JonTargaryen | i've downloaded the 3.4GB iso of debian 9 and burnt it on a DVD, and trying to install it on a laptop |
| 10:59.46 | JonTargaryen | it stops giving the error |
| 11:00.13 | JonTargaryen | failed to create a file system the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed |
| 11:00.22 | JonTargaryen | can anyone help me solve this error? |
| 11:01.04 | JonTargaryen | i've tried googling it, but nothing i can understand helped |
| 11:01.23 | cusco | JonTargaryen: there were ome options on where to install debian |
| 11:01.35 | cusco | "guided partitioning" should be the title |
| 11:02.03 | cusco | if you can erase all the contents of the disk in the machine you are abot to install just chose "use whole disk" in that step |
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| 11:03.29 | JonTargaryen | i did that exactly cusco, and still giving me the same error |
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| 11:04.04 | JonTargaryen | Guided partitioning |
| 11:04.11 | JonTargaryen | then Guided - use entire disk |
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| 11:04.28 | JonTargaryen | i chose the disk |
| 11:04.58 | JonTargaryen | then i selected the option "all files in one partition (recommended for new users)" |
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| 11:05.16 | JonTargaryen | then "finish partitioning and write changes to disk" |
| 11:05.44 | JonTargaryen | when it prompts to "write the changes to disks?" i select Yes |
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| 11:13.09 | JonTargaryen | so anyone has any idea? |
| 11:14.52 | toorop | JonTargaryen > Did you retry? |
| 11:15.44 | JonTargaryen | yes i did again now |
| 11:16.41 | toorop | Is the disk good for service? |
| 11:17.19 | JonTargaryen | you mean if it's in good health, yes it is, i had windows on it with hard disk sentinel and it worked fine |
| 11:17.32 | JonTargaryen | i also tried a different hard disk suspecting it was the problem |
| 11:17.35 | JonTargaryen | and still no luck |
| 11:19.12 | blackflow | JonTargaryen: sda -- is that the correct disk? you sure the system did not boot with the DVD as sda? |
| 11:19.51 | JonTargaryen | blackflow honestly i don't know, i'm new to this, so how do i make sure? |
| 11:20.11 | JonTargaryen | i'm sure i do select the 250GB drive when i try installing |
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| 11:33.47 | JonTargaryen | so any help? |
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| 12:19.44 | picea | the aptly package in buster is broken, you are able to create repos but unfortunately not to remove them |
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| 12:24.50 | monra | Hi how do you solve that debian host on virtualbox (windows 10) client problem with full-screen resulution on a secondary monitor? Is there a chance to have a solution to that befeore 2020 or should I just fork my own linux distro to fix that? |
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| 12:25.46 | rant | monra: I am not a betting man, but I'm willing to bet nobody has the slightest clue what you're talking about |
| 12:26.03 | monra | Pls if u never done that ust ignore my question or be the "just install guest additions" "just press ctrl +f" guy. |
| 12:26.19 | monra | rant: I tought it was a common problem tbh |
| 12:26.25 | rant | I HAVE done it and I dont even know what you're talking about |
| 12:26.54 | monra | wait let me copy the question from the other 7 ircs and support forums |
| 12:27.02 | petn-randall | monra: Ranting won't get you far if you're asking for free help from volunteers. |
| 12:27.07 | petn-randall | !crosspost |
| 12:27.07 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
| 12:27.11 | rant | monra: dont bother, go to the correct channel |
| 12:27.23 | monra | wich should be_ |
| 12:27.29 | rant | virtualbox isn't in debian stable, neither is win10 |
| 12:27.39 | rant | try #virtualbox maybe, idk |
| 12:27.45 | diogenes_ | there is /j #vbox |
| 12:27.58 | monra | but have u ever had this problem too? |
| 12:28.00 | petn-randall | Well, it is in stretch-backports ... |
| 12:28.35 | rant | no, I deleted all my windows virtualboxes recently.. |
| 12:28.55 | diogenes_ | monra, almost no one here is using windows in any shape or form |
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| 12:29.06 | diogenes_ | raise hands who's using windows :) |
| 12:29.24 | a0z | lowers both arms |
| 12:29.24 | monra | diogenes_: that's what you think lmao |
| 12:29.35 | qman__ | I use windows plenty, but not virtualbox |
| 12:29.37 | rant | you literally couldnt pay m to.. and i only have $2 in the bank and less than $5 on me |
| 12:29.40 | petn-randall | !survey |
| 12:29.40 | dpkg | i heard survey is Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask. |
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| 12:30.58 | monra | I only use windows for work and I'm totally bad at it, I just have to do some system management so i have to install a vm (can't just shovel away 40gb of corporate bloated os unfortunately) so once in a while I try to install debian with decent screen res, I failed for a couple years now |
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| 12:32.00 | rant | you said "debian host" now you're sounding like its a "debian guest" |
| 12:32.15 | crivrc | <JonTargaryen> maybe hardware problem? have you ever written anything into that disk? perhaps you can try with a live-cd |
| 12:32.19 | monra | Also I would go for the ssh solution if i knew anything about corporate vpn, I can't even find the correct ip for the vpn |
| 12:32.51 | monra | rant: man sorry I'm boiled, i meant debian guest |
| 12:33.07 | JonTargaryen | crivrc i will download a live cd and retry |
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| 12:35.15 | rant | monra: then your problem likely lies somewhere between windows and virtualbox support communities.. because those are the folk who make the display drivers in question. There is nothing remotely debian related in this equation. |
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| 12:37.34 | petn-randall | Well, there *is* Debian as the guest ... |
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| 12:38.06 | monra | rant: the problem may be in the screen used by the guest, I hypotised that the problem could lie there because whenever I manage to "unlock" the resolution it is capped at the laptop's screen resolution |
| 12:38.16 | themill | picea: that bug doesn't appear to be in the bts; unreported bugs don't often get fixed. |
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| 12:39.39 | monra | so yeah the problem lies there, there is also appearently no way to change the used monitor from the client but I might be wrong, I think I'm stupid tho |
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| 12:40.31 | monra | rant maybe I can confirm that the wrong monitor acceptable resolution is being used, clues? |
| 12:42.11 | picea | themill: i created a bug report seconds ago |
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| 12:48.56 | hmpf1 | Hello! |
| 12:48.56 | hmpf1 | Does anyone have an idea what goes wrong when I get a segfault from pbuilder-satisfydepends? |
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| 12:50.00 | hmpf1 | https://pastebin.com/1jGDUP2i |
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| 12:57.02 | themill | picea: thanks |
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| 13:13.21 | mrig | Hello, is it possible to install debian 0 into a preexisting LVM partition? |
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| 13:14.54 | mrig | I have read an article that recommended that this can be done from a live usb instance, I am simply trying to ascertain if it can be done from the graphic install manual disk partition options? |
| 13:15.28 | mrig | if not I will just stop partitioning the disk. |
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| 13:26.39 | bingbotboom | yes |
| 13:27.38 | bingbotboom | you can, just select to give debian the whole partition if unsure |
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| 13:37.35 | bingbotboom | ohais |
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| 13:38.36 | mrig | bingbotboom I would prefer to avoid doing this if I can, the thought being that I will not need to copy over all of my data this way. |
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| 13:39.06 | petn-randall | mrig: Do you have backups of the data? |
| 13:39.13 | mrig | I was looking to find out if it is possible to preserve the partitioning from the graphic install menu. |
| 13:39.19 | mrig | yes several |
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| 13:39.57 | petn-randall | mrig: Yes, it should be possible to install to a LV. I don't know if it's in the regular install, but it's 100% sure in the expert install. |
| 13:40.46 | bingbotboom | yeah just pick any other or resize and split existing in gpartef |
| 13:40.58 | mrig | petn-randall: thank you that is what I was looking for. Before investing time in testing, to check that it is possible. Better to use the command line interface than the graphic? |
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| 13:42.33 | petn-randall | mrig: I think both the graphical and the text installer have the same options, so whatever you prefer. |
| 13:42.46 | mrig | It is a shame, there is no space in my laptop for a second ssd :) |
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| 13:43.30 | mrig | yes I seem to recall coming to the conclusion that both were pretty much the same, so I need to understand the naming conventions I think. |
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| 13:44.44 | mrig | petn-randall Thank you for the info, reading up from the debian LVM page. |
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| 13:46.11 | mrig | so LV 1 needs to be root but not the boot? |
| 13:46.18 | petn-randall | mrig: These two are mutually exclusive: text mode / graphical installer. And then there's "normal" / "expert mode". |
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| 13:46.36 | petn-randall | mrig: grub can boot directly from LVM. |
| 13:46.55 | petn-randall | Though the installer still creates a separate partition for /boot outside of LVM. |
| 13:47.19 | mrig | This is where I get confused, which disks to make what. From the previous installation. |
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| 13:48.49 | mrig | right, so on a disk that has a LVM partitioned disk upon which a system is already installed and the split is used to make a /home I need to tell it to wipe the root partition, and install onto that? |
| 13:48.51 | petn-randall | mrig: If you look at the contents, it should be fairly straight forward. |
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| 13:49.37 | mrig | Yes I see which partition is the target, so I need to reset all the disk partition usages? |
| 13:49.45 | petn-randall | mrig: That's how I'd do it. Just make sure that when you configure the home partition, that it gets mounted to /home, and *doesn't* get formatted. It's a setting. |
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| 13:50.24 | mrig | right so the boot disk should be the root or the physical disk? |
| 13:50.32 | mrig | Non-LVM |
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| 13:51.49 | mrig | i will go try again, just a matter of doing it once to get it clear, in the knowledge that it is possible this will be a lot easier :) |
| 13:51.56 | mrig | Thanks |
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| 14:07.18 | DonK_KijotE | Hi |
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| 14:07.46 | petn-randall | hi DonK_KijotE |
| 14:07.57 | DonK_KijotE | hey there :) |
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| 14:20.52 | tomodachi | if i have a cron /5 meaning every 5 minutes, but when does it start? |
| 14:21.02 | tomodachi | or is that just from the moment the cron is added |
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| 14:21.12 | tomodachi | or 12:05,12:10 etc etc |
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| 14:27.16 | DonK_KijotE | tomodachi I think it starts counting the 5 minutes from the time you set the crontask |
| 14:27.45 | DonK_KijotE | you should check it probably on the man page if you need to know this with certain precision |
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| 14:28.15 | areyouloco | !dpkg cron |
| 14:28.15 | dpkg | well, cron is a daemon allowing programs to be run at predefined intervals as specific users. To read how to specify a job to run "man 5 crontab". To see your crontab "crontab -l". To edit it "crontab -e". System wide crontabs are /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d, and /etc/cron.* are directories have run-parts called on them from /etc/crontab. Also ask me about <crontab>, <cron tutorial> and <run-parts>. |
| 14:28.52 | EdePopede | i'd say at :05 :10 etc. else it would have to keep a record of when each entry was added. |
| 14:29.17 | DonK_KijotE | seems logic tbh |
| 14:29.26 | DonK_KijotE | gonna find that out :) |
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| 14:29.53 | EdePopede | but. what about /7? or any other value you can't use to divide 60. |
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| 14:31.49 | EdePopede | and if the counter starts at 0 everytime the file is changed, what if you edit and save it just before such a job is about to start? would never get executed. |
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| 14:34.32 | joze | what if cron controls a nuclear plant and the beginning is out of interval? |
| 14:35.06 | DonK_KijotE | ok channel, general advise now is to avoid cron :P |
| 14:35.11 | DonK_KijotE | hahaha |
| 14:35.20 | DonK_KijotE | at least don't use it on your nuclear plants xd |
| 14:36.24 | mutante | next: i replaced cron with systemd timers, now i have new problems with that |
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| 14:45.54 | tomodachi | seems to be :00,05,10 etc.. |
| 14:45.58 | tomodachi | tested it to make sure in the end |
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| 14:51.44 | Slashman | hello, on a debian router, I have some iptables rules and I'm seeing some DROP that should match a previous rule to accept them, the relevant rules and on example error are here: https://apaste.info/fEF9 |
| 14:51.51 | Slashman | any idea how this can be are welcome |
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| 15:01.03 | petn-randall | Slashman: bridging and routing are two different things. Also, it seems as though you're not showing all output of `iptables -L -vn`. `iptables -L -vn -t nat` would also be relevant. |
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| 15:02.25 | Slashman | petn-randall: I have to cleanup the output of iptables because it has unrelated rules, there is no JUMP that could mess up the order |
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| 15:03.22 | Slashman | the bridge is working fine, I'm just explaining in the paste what is each interfaces |
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| 15:03.56 | mrig | Hello |
| 15:04.18 | mrig | petn-randall, do you have a moment to take a look at this http://ix.io/1CHr |
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| 15:05.20 | mrig | I am not sure which drive to make the root and it is asking for it, and not recognising the LVM partition as root. |
| 15:06.26 | mrig | I would appreciate a pointer here if anyone knows which partition I need to make into what? |
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| 15:12.03 | petn-randall | mrig: You want to use the LV laptop-vg/root as root partition. |
| 15:12.37 | petn-randall | Slashman: Sure, but a package runs through more chains than the one you showed. |
| 15:13.02 | mrig | oh of course is is marked as ext4 with no further designation. |
| 15:13.16 | Slashman | petn-randall: does it matter? it doesn't match any since the log is showing the it hits the last one |
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| 15:13.45 | mrig | right thank you, off to try that again! |
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| 15:16.34 | crivrc | joze don't use it to control the absorption bars! |
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| 15:17.11 | petn-randall | crivrc: Do you have a Debian support question? |
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| 15:29.34 | pthomas | Does anyone know where I can find the kernel .config for stretch amd64? |
| 15:30.13 | pthomas | I didn't see it in the source package here: |
| 15:30.13 | pthomas | http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux_4.9.144-3.1.debian.tar.xz |
| 15:30.31 | greycat | it is in /boot after you install the package |
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| 15:30.32 | petn-randall | pthomas: On an installed system it's in /boot/config-<versionnumber>. |
| 15:30.57 | pthomas | petn-randall, thanks! |
| 15:31.51 | pthomas | that is not very googleable |
| 15:32.16 | petn-randall | Indeed. You're welcome! |
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| 15:40.11 | Piraty | hi. |
| 15:40.20 | Piraty | i have this experience with debian containers: "lxc stop mydebian" does not stop the container. "lxc exec mydebian -- poweroff" does. can anybody help?? |
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| 15:54.59 | areyouloco | Piraty: I am using LXC on openwrt only but lxc stop is a gracefull shutdown and it waits for everything to close |
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| 15:55.49 | Slashman | Piraty: what version of lxd/lxc are u using? |
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| 15:57.34 | Piraty | lxc on openwrt?? lol |
| 15:57.40 | Piraty | lxc / lxd : 3.10 |
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| 16:11.46 | gordonfish | [https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html] "If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy the ISO file of a Debian ISO image[4] onto the stick." ; I'm wondering, when booting the vmlinuz/initrd from hd-media, how does it know how to find the .iso file that is copied over to the usb stick? |
| 16:12.55 | greycat | You don't copy the .iso as a file into an existing vfat file system. You overwrite the raw device with the image, which contains a partition table and so on. |
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| 16:13.53 | Piraty | gordonfish: use rw or dd |
| 16:14.10 | gordonfish | greycat: You're thinking of the other way where one just dd's the iso onto /dev/sbx, I'm using the alternative "4.3.3. Manually copying files to the USB stick the flexible way" way |
| 16:14.48 | gordonfish | Where it uses vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/gtk |
| 16:15.33 | gordonfish | Under "4.3.3.2. Adding the installer image" it says, "If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy the ISO file of a Debian ISO image[4] onto the stick." |
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| 16:16.34 | gordonfish | I'm just wondering how it actually finds that iso. The page doesn't really get into that. |
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| 16:17.04 | greycat | I've never seen anyone attempt that before. No idea. Maybe ask in #debian-boot on the other network. |
| 16:17.51 | petn-randall | gordonfish: I'm guessing that the initramfs has a script that will look for a file looking like "debian*.iso", or something. |
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| 16:22.26 | gordonfish | greycat: It's useful when you have a larger usb stick and want to put other files and/or make a multiboot (like memtest and other utils) |
| 16:22.52 | gordonfish | petn-randall: Thanks, that makes sense |
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| 16:24.42 | bunni | Gonna ask this one more time and hope it catches someones eye who might know. Anyone here deal with the Debian cross toolchains? Have a specific need for Debian Jessie x86 to have cross compiler for armhf. This has worked in the past: https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains#For_jessie_.28Debian_8.29 but now it fails to install crossbuild-essential-armhf due to unmet dependency hell on a fresh install. |
| 16:24.58 | gordonfish | greycat: In my case I only have a spare 64gb so it's be a bit of a waste to just dd onto it and not be able to add anything. And while yes I could add another partition, partitions after the first aren't visible in windows explorer (without some registry hacking to change mass-storage handling.) |
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| 16:25.37 | gordonfish | I also want to be able to add the contents of the other two DVD isos, plus some utils and such. |
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| 16:31.58 | Piraty | boah why the heck you use a DIFFERENT naming convention than 101% of the rest of the world by naming the service ssh instead of sshd |
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| 16:32.42 | greycat | To make your life harder. And yes, I got bit by that one too. |
| 16:33.23 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Creating_or_altering_services |
| 16:33.27 | greycat | I even used it as an example there. |
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| 16:37.39 | gordonfish | boah? |
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| 16:38.41 | gordonfish | (also, both service sshd status and service ssh status work) |
| 16:39.13 | gordonfish | (ditto for systemctl status ..) |
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| 16:41.20 | greycat | gordonfish: Yes, that's the TRAP. Some commands work just fine using the alias name, so you get complacent. |
| 16:41.25 | gordonfish | (oh, /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service has Alias=sshd.service) |
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| 16:41.33 | gordonfish | right |
| 16:41.59 | greycat | Then you think "OK, I'll set up a drop-in directory for sshd.service" and BOOM! Shit breaks every which way! |
| 16:42.06 | n4dir | boah is a german slangterm. kinda: wtf. or sigh. or such. it's usage isn't very clear (to me). in case that was the question, gordonfish |
| 16:42.22 | gordonfish | Ah, I see |
| 16:42.24 | gordonfish | Thanks |
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| 16:43.10 | gordonfish | greycat: Ah, I definately see that point. Although a simple status check will reveal the correct name, it is still easy to forget. |
| 16:43.41 | mutante | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boah |
| 16:44.10 | ironic_aneurysm | heh. I'm just proud that I'm finally learning systemd *smh* |
| 16:44.32 | mutante | sshd is ssh on systemd ? jk |
| 16:44.57 | gordonfish | IMHO, calling the service 'ssh' does make some sense, as any service is normally a daemon, one wouldn't normally run a client program as a service. |
| 16:45.15 | greycat | The Debian service name is "ssh.service". But Debian also creates an Alias service name "sshd.service". In some places, you can use either name. In other places, you MUST use the real name. |
| 16:45.32 | mutante | daemon.service IS redundant, they got a point |
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| 16:46.00 | gordonfish | Right, and it's not hard to check what the real name is. And iirc in those places where it doesn't, a symlink could be made |
| 16:46.33 | greycat | An alias name *is* a symlink. That's how it's implemented. |
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| 16:46.49 | gordonfish | I mean like a drop dir like you mentioned before |
| 16:47.03 | gordonfish | either a symlink or bind mount could be used for those |
| 16:47.20 | greycat | If you make a drop-in directory for an alias name, shit breaks HARD. I couldn't even reproduce my own results. It was just random as hell. |
| 16:47.29 | gordonfish | Oh? |
| 16:47.41 | gordonfish | Wow. What exactly occurred? |
| 16:48.08 | greycat | I can't remember exactly, and I couldn't reproduce anything reliably. This was back when I was first learning all this stuff, of course. |
| 16:48.15 | gordonfish | Did you merely make a dir called sshd.service or did you actually make a symlink? |
| 16:48.33 | gordonfish | Oh, so earlier days of systemd then |
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| 16:50.06 | gordonfish | systemd has very active development last I looked, it wouldn't surprise me that that was fixed if that was happening a couple years back. |
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| 16:53.38 | jelly | gordonfish: Re: finding iso on a stick, debian-installer code for that particular bit is VERY fragile. This is (part of the reason) we actively recommend against unetbootin, rufus, and other similar tools, because their tampering confuses d-i easily and makes it unable to find its files and image. |
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| 17:00.12 | dob1 | hi, it is possible to hide at least the arguments of a process in ps ? |
| 17:00.23 | greycat | No. |
| 17:00.39 | dob1 | it's not nice :/ |
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| 17:00.57 | greycat | Also, the process's initial environment is visible. So stop trying to pass passwords or other secrets as arguments or as environment variables. |
| 17:01.40 | dob1 | what you suggest? |
| 17:02.06 | greycat | Any serious program knows these things and has safe ways to ask your for passwords, usually by directly opening /dev/tty and prompting you. |
| 17:02.06 | dob1 | and how is he initial environment visible? |
| 17:02.11 | greycat | ps e |
| 17:02.27 | dob1 | oh... |
| 17:02.33 | greycat | eww because it'll be truncated otherwise |
| 17:03.52 | dob1 | greycat, there are ton of documentation about scripts online that teach you to pass arguments either as env var or arguments |
| 17:04.06 | greycat | /msg greybot crap |
| 17:04.38 | pagetelegram | I'm trying hylafax server now and I setup the server and jobs are still being sent to localhost and not the modem device ttyS0 |
| 17:05.21 | dob1 | greycat, there was a kernel patch to separate every user, hiding the ps etc, grsecurity ?? |
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| 17:06.57 | greycat | Yes, there are some computers somewhere in the world where people hide stuff slightly more so than normal. Doesn't change the fact that you don't pass passwords as arguments because the OTHER 95% of computers in the world are still normal. |
| 17:07.22 | storgance | So, is there a big enough difference between Jessie and Stretch that I should be worried about applying the materials on https://www.debian.org/doc/books to Stretch? I've taken a look at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html and seen a few things such as GPG, but nothing that jumps out at me so far. Wanted a more experienced opinion, though. |
| 17:07.34 | greycat | You simply use correct programming techniques instead of relying on obfuscations by the local fools. |
| 17:08.03 | dob1 | greycat, other thank keys I am using sshpass for rsync in scripts, it seems fine or am I wrong? |
| 17:08.13 | dob1 | *than |
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| 17:09.13 | dob1 | anyway ps ewww is very interesting ! |
| 17:10.10 | greycat | Scripts relying on authentication is a challenging problem. I divide it broadly into two sub-problems: scripts that you run in your session, or scripts that are fully automated (e.g. cron jobs). |
| 17:10.23 | greycat | Scripts that YOU run are easily handled by ssh-agent and so on. |
| 17:10.29 | greycat | Cron jobs are a totally different matter. |
| 17:10.34 | teclo- | dob1: indeed |
| 17:10.37 | dob1 | if you can use the keys |
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| 17:19.01 | gordonfish | jelly: Thanks |
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| 17:23.13 | jelly | dob1: debian kernels have options to hide processes from other users from everyone but root. |
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| 17:23.51 | jelly | dob1: do a web search for hidepid=2 |
| 17:23.56 | dob1 | jelly, from root it's ok, it's root :) |
| 17:23.56 | greycat | I still strongly encourage NOT relying on such things, as they will not be the norm in the wild. |
| 17:24.35 | jelly | it's just another tool in the box. |
| 17:24.55 | dob1 | greycat, better to have it, then you can decide to use or not |
| 17:24.56 | jelly | I encourage using multiple overlapping protections. |
| 17:25.03 | teclo- | well I know that for instance smbclient censors the passwords it uses when you do ps |
| 17:25.09 | gordonfish | Can't hide from the almighty root |
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| 17:27.45 | jelly | teclo-: that's very likely to be prone to a race condition. |
| 17:27.54 | teclo- | jelly: it's possible |
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| 17:29.41 | dob1 | well, reading about it you can also create a group "monitoring" and add an user to this group and he still can all the process even wth hidepid=2 |
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| 17:42.06 | Fahrradkette | Hi everybody. What's the recommended way to track a (resolved) upstream bug to debians package? |
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| 17:44.41 | Fahrradkette | In this case, I'm experiencing https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler/issues/670 and I couldn't find it in debians bug tracker for poppler-utils |
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| 18:04.02 | Fahrradkette | oh, nevermind, found the bug in the source tracker of poppler |
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| 18:10.37 | fling | Should I uninstall iceweasel? |
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| 18:20.01 | prasket | @fling I do not think iceweasel is around anymore, it was renamed back to FireFox back in Jessie I think it was. |
| 18:20.29 | prasket | or merged back into or however it worked, but now I just have firefox-esr vs iceweasel on my newer deb full installs. |
| 18:20.55 | fling | Should I replace it with firefox-esr? |
| 18:20.58 | fling | Or just firefox? |
| 18:21.19 | jmcnaught | fling: which release of Debian are you using? |
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| 18:23.19 | Dark-Jedi | fling: It's your choice really. firefox-esr will be best supported. But if you're looking for newer, less tested stuff, the firefox package can be easily upgraded to beta or alpha channels. |
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| 18:28.53 | fling | jmcnaught: buster |
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| 18:29.26 | fling | Dark-Jedi: I don't know what beta ald alpha channels are. |
| 18:29.47 | Dark-Jedi | fling: Then just stick with firefox-esr |
| 18:30.56 | jmcnaught | judd: info iceweasel --release buster |
| 18:30.57 | judd | No package named 'iceweasel' was found in buster/amd64. |
| 18:31.30 | jmcnaught | fling: you shouldn't be using iceweasel anymore, it must either be horribly out of date or just a transition package now |
| 18:31.57 | fling | So how to fix my situation properly? :P |
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| 18:32.43 | Dark-Jedi | In Debian Stretch and later, the package iceweasel is a transitional package which installs the firefox-esr package. |
| 18:32.51 | Dark-Jedi | So just use firefox-esr |
| 18:33.04 | Dark-Jedi | As of 9th of June, 2016 the package Firefox-ESR replaces Iceweasel, and is in Wheezy and Jessie security repositories. |
| 18:33.10 | Tenkawa | I only have one word for compiles with a laptop with 12 cores... wow |
| 18:33.37 | jmcnaught | yeah it's pretty puzzling how you have iceweasel at all, unless of course it's just the transition package. Are you *using* iceweasel? |
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| 18:56.18 | relipse | I'm on a windows box sshing with ubuntu how do I scp a file back to my ubuntu windows box? |
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| 19:02.23 | blackflow | relipse: #ubuntu-on-windows |
| 19:02.36 | blackflow | (srsly, that's a channel for WSL) |
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| 19:04.47 | relipse | blackflow: yeah there are only 7 people there |
| 19:06.09 | blackflow | relipse: welp, you'll have to wait until some one of the seven answers :) |
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| 19:36.33 | storgance | Don't mean to bother, but anyone have a comment or answer to my question from a couple hours ago? Minute was :07. |
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| 19:42.12 | ksk | storgance: while newer software sometimes changes the way you use it, most of the concepts should still be true. I assume it does include systemd? |
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| 19:42.43 | ksk | most of the times software like apache2 will try to not break things by implementing a new feature. |
| 19:43.55 | ksk | might be some example from this bug does not work 1:1 depending on what it covers, other things will just do. Just apply some extra caution using them (like, looking up switches for a program in the manpage, if you are for example fiddling around with live-data in some way) |
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| 20:09.14 | jken | Working on a custom kernel build using the bin-debpkg make target. It seems the resulting .deb file uses the entire kernel version string as both the package name and version in the control file.. what migth I be doing wrong? I am assuming this is not what its supposed to do. |
| 20:10.06 | jken | ie. name = linux-image-5.0.0-mybuildqualifiers and version = linux-image-5.0.0-mybuildqualifiers, rather than name = linux-image-<something?> version = 5.0.0-mybuildqualifiers |
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| 20:18.00 | Tom-_ | it's so cool and neat that Linux 5.0 is out |
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| 20:18.22 | Tom-_ | offtopic but i just wanted to mention that even after 28 years or something Linux is awesome |
| 20:20.46 | Tenkawa | omg O |
| 20:20.52 | Tenkawa | i'm old |
| 20:21.30 | Tenkawa | i started kernel work in 93/94 |
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| 20:22.32 | Tenkawa | oh wow... thats almost the whole 28 |
| 20:23.23 | Tenkawa | was working on ncr svr4 beforehand |
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| 20:25.28 | Tenkawa | Tom-_: whats scary is I'm sitting here with a laptop I compiled a kernel on it that has 16 c0res. it was too fast to even watch the output |
| 20:25.44 | Tenkawa | er cores |
| 20:25.54 | Tom-_ | terrific :) |
| 20:25.58 | Tenkawa | indeed |
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| 20:26.38 | Tenkawa | 12 cores rather... |
| 20:26.57 | Tenkawa | I was running 18 jobs |
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| 20:27.05 | Tenkawa | it was flying |
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| 20:30.58 | Tom-_ | you hack on the kernel? i have extremely limited Linux contributes.... .... I'm the reason there's a nethack-console package in Debian and not nethack-tty or nethack-nox or something |
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| 20:31.20 | Tenkawa | I use to a long time ago..... |
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| 20:32.34 | Tenkawa | i was good at porting code between arch's |
| 20:33.03 | Tom-_ | terrific :) at the risk of being redundant |
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| 20:33.34 | Tenkawa | thanks. :) |
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| 20:35.07 | Tom-_ | yw |
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| 21:29.19 | Dan39 | jigdo is garbage... always gives me issues. frustrating trying to find the right mirror to use |
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| 21:31.16 | rwp | jigdo uses the same mirrors as your system's /etc/apt/sources.list{,d/*} use. If you have working ones there then jigdo needs no other config. |
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| 21:33.42 | shibboleth | anyone know a way to do JBOD, fill up each drive sequentially and easily be able to recover the data physically stored on each surviving drive in case of failure? |
| 21:34.42 | shibboleth | doing lvm+ext4 will store complete files on each drive but the fs itself will be striped. don't worry about parity, that's already covered |
| 21:35.13 | shibboleth | overlayfs? |
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| 21:37.19 | kyych | hello, is there any way to install i3blocks without i3wm? :p |
| 21:37.30 | kyych | i have compilled i3-gaps |
| 21:37.47 | kyych | and installing i3wm will overwrite my settings on every update |
| 21:38.01 | greycat | i3blocks only depends on libc6 and perl; it *recommends* i3-wm but you can ignore recommends |
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| 21:39.08 | kyych | apt says that packages like i3wm will be installed too :p |
| 21:39.10 | somiaj | with apt/apt-get use the --no-install-recommends flag when installing the package. |
| 21:39.37 | kyych | whoooa |
| 21:39.38 | kyych | thanks |
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| 21:42.26 | Tom-_ | i wish there was a dpkg --satisfy-dependency or something so i could just decide my own dependencies |
| 21:42.40 | Tom-_ | debian's dpkg is too controlling |
| 21:43.45 | somiaj | depends aren't something you can decide. recommends and suggested are, and the default is to install recommended packages and not install suggested. |
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| 21:44.33 | somiaj | By debian policy recommended packages should be ones that most users will want and aspects of the software may not function as desired with out them. suggested are packages that could be used in conjunction with that software. |
| 21:45.06 | greycat | and dpkg doesn't care about either of those things |
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| 21:50.15 | arny91 | Hi,are the daily and weekly testing cd images currently broken? The installer is always showing the message "No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a mismatch..." |
| 21:51.03 | ksk | !tell arny91 about debian-next |
| 21:51.19 | somiaj | arny91: I think #debian-next on irc.oftc.net or maybe #debian-installer on irc.oftc.net would be better places for such a question. (This is a stable support channel and many users here most likely haven't tried the current installer images for buster) |
| 21:51.47 | arny91 | ok, thank you |
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| 21:56.03 | motes | Hi there :). Could you help me with this problem? https://privatebin.net/?6699aa8f153346c5#yfhxAuYrdeOfita6kcHL5WyBkDSUehE0Kj530RHY9Bg= |
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| 22:01.45 | ksk | motes: could you repaste that somewhere? maybe at https://paste.debian.net |
| 22:02.17 | ksk | it might be related to my browser, but your pastebin service asks for a password. |
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| 22:03.37 | greycat | Also, ask the English part of the question here so people know whether to bother opening your web page for more details. |
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| 22:04.09 | motes | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/72a3414b/ |
| 22:05.36 | motes | Hi grecat, I decided to paste all the message in an external service because I could use break lines without writing different messages |
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| 22:06.41 | motes | Basically the problem is that debian freezes for a short to medium amount of time and some radeon errors appear |
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| 22:10.19 | motes | Anyway, i didn't set a password for that paste but maybe it prompts to insert one anyway, have you tried leaving it empty and check if it works? |
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| 22:18.53 | EdePopede | it shouldn't (and doesn not here), yet another 0bin like pastebin. downloads the encrypted message and uses the key in the fragment identifier to decrypt it. with noscript there's only the usual NoJS error. maybe an addon causing the trouble? |
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| 22:36.39 | jcb2016 | so i just installed a .deb file it was missing a dependancy so i tried to do apt-file search filename. it wasnt installed but i got an error that i need to run apt --fix-broken install. everything worked and it installed but is this normal? |
| 22:37.32 | abrotman | jcb2016: yeah, pretty much, when using that method |
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| 22:37.48 | jcb2016 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:44.41 | jcb2016 | was i right to do apt-file search? |
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| 22:45.33 | motes | Does nobody have any clue for what I've asked? |
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| 22:59.18 | jcb2016 | anyone heard of gdebi? |
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| 23:00.28 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:00.46 | milkt | motes: there is testing support channel #debian-next in irc.oftc.net |
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| 23:01.34 | jcb2016 | abrotman: do you use it? |
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| 23:02.38 | Unit193 | If #915298 isn't fixed, it won't be part of Buster. |
| 23:02.50 | motes | I'll ask there |
| 23:03.23 | jcb2016 | Unit193: thats gdebi? |
| 23:03.27 | Unit193 | jcb2016: Instead, perhaps you should use sudo apt install ./thefile.deb |
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| 23:03.32 | Unit193 | Yes, jcb2016. |
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| 23:03.47 | jcb2016 | Unit193: i thought .deb was dpkg -i ? |
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| 23:04.09 | abrotman | jcb2016: I do not .. why? |
| 23:04.16 | jcb2016 | abrotman: just wondering |
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| 23:04.37 | motes | It seems that I have to be invited to join that channel |
| 23:04.51 | Unit193 | jcb2016: That's one way to do it, but as you noticed it doesn't resolve dependancies so sometimes you have to run `apt install -f` afterwards. `apt install ./file.deb` is newer and doesn't have the issue. |
| 23:04.51 | jcb2016 | motes: are you on oftc.net ? |
| 23:05.44 | zegil | the oftc.net debian irc is dead :'( |
| 23:06.22 | abrotman | zegil: not really |
| 23:07.05 | motes | I'm on freenode right now |
| 23:07.23 | jcb2016 | motes: open a new connection and connect to irc.oftc.net and join #debian-next |
| 23:07.33 | motes | OK |
| 23:07.42 | jcb2016 | motes: im there right now. i don't use buster. i just idle |
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| 23:09.08 | zegil | abrotman: Well last time I went on it was pretty dead, meanwhile freenode is super active |
| 23:09.19 | abrotman | different active times I'd say .. |
| 23:09.20 | zegil | abortman, is it just as active as freenode? |
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| 23:09.25 | abrotman | plus, rant is noisy ... |
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| 23:09.38 | zegil | abrotman: yeah you're probably right, I didn't go on many times |
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| 23:31.41 | kreyren | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923403&fbclid=IwAR0gP56iy6e_esSPu8Wp1p4QtO5dsbd1KhgOORQ3rjFHrpXFw9eiyu-5YtE > We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of |
| 23:31.41 | kreyren | anbox, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. -> Where is this FTP archive? |
| 23:31.55 | kreyren | Relevant: https://github.com/anbox/anbox/issues/1064 |
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| 23:42.54 | abrotman | kreyren: it's already in unstable .. which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 23:44.05 | kreyren | Linux debian 4.19.0-2-amd64 (Testin-Buster) |
| 23:44.09 | kreyren | *Testing |
| 23:44.36 | abrotman | you can try to just grab the package, or wait 2-10 day |
| 23:44.37 | abrotman | days |
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| 23:45.15 | kreyren | Can i use apt argument to get unstable package? Or what is the most effective way to get one package from sid? |
| 23:47.58 | kreyren | Trying .deb from https://packages.debian.org/sid/anbox |
| 23:49.42 | ksk | kreyren: first of all, this channel supports debian stable. |
| 23:49.47 | ksk | !tell kreyren about debian-next |
| 23:49.47 | kreyren | noted |
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| 23:50.36 | ksk | then, this package seems to have a rather long list of dependencies - which most likely means you will need to pull in newer versions of these, too. this way you will end up with |
| 23:50.40 | ksk | !frankendebian |
| 23:50.40 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall> |
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| 23:51.08 | ksk | so Id strongly recomend against doing that in the first place. |
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| 23:52.10 | kreyren | ksk: i'm used to running debian sid, but i never tried frankendebian. https://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing sane? |
| 23:52.18 | kreyren | assuming that i can ask here |
| 23:52.38 | ksk | I already tried to elaborate why this is not sane. |
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| 23:53.18 | ksk | You could just use sid instead, dont expect it not to break though. |
| 23:53.45 | somiaj | kreyren: that answer is not sane |
| 23:54.06 | kreyren | noted, prefers buster since sid is too unstable for my current usecase.. Any way to make a container of anbox with required deps on debian? |
| 23:54.13 | somiaj | kreyren: /msg dpkg ssb (this is my reccomendation for installing software from sid in stable) |
| 23:54.14 | kreyren | in theory make custom snap? |
| 23:54.31 | somiaj | !don't break debian |
| 23:54.31 | kreyren | somiaj: using testing not stable |
| 23:54.31 | dpkg | [dont break debian] https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 23:54.44 | abrotman | kreyren: have you tried just grabbing the package and trying to install it? |
| 23:55.10 | ksk | ,v libc6 |
| 23:55.11 | judd | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u12; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u10; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch: 2.24-11+deb9u4; sid: 2.28-5; buster: 2.28-7 |
| 23:55.13 | kreyren | yep updated https://github.com/anbox/anbox/issues/1064 with results -> needs deps from unstable |
| 23:55.43 | kreyren | or can i slot dependencies for anbox like on gentoo? |
| 23:55.54 | kreyren | so that multiple versions of same dep is installed? |
| 23:55.59 | somiaj | kreyren: mixing testing and sid can have its usecase, but these questions are best asked in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. Right now I would be careful of mixing buster/sid due to buster is frozen and being stablized. |
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| 23:57.09 | kreyren | asking on debian-next, ty for info |
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