| 00:00.00 | InvisibleRasta | brb |
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| 00:02.03 | InvisibleRasta | thatworked :) |
| 00:02.31 | watchcat | virt-manager is kind of quirky and unintuitive in places, but you'll figure it out. |
| 00:03.00 | jhutchins | When I boot this newly installed Dell Latitude (legacy boot), I get "Invalid partition table". If I press Esc I get a normal Debian boot. |
| 00:03.34 | jhutchins | I think it has something to do with the UEFI setup from Windows. The EFI partition is still there but Windows is gone. |
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| 00:04.23 | jhutchins | !uefi |
| 00:04.24 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases support installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI |
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| 00:06.45 | InvisibleRasta | virtmanager feels snappier than virtualbox |
| 00:06.53 | InvisibleRasta | to be honest... jsut faster |
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| 00:09.27 | annadane | i tend to go for free solutions when i can |
| 00:09.32 | annadane | the exception being intel-microcode |
| 00:10.02 | jelly | no free alternative for that so you're safe |
| 00:10.07 | annadane | yep |
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| 00:11.07 | InvisibleRasta | to connect to the VM's X i can use vnc or there is better solutions? this is on my private network anyway |
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| 00:13.33 | annadane | not sure what you mean by connect to x |
| 00:13.58 | InvisibleRasta | well if i have X running on the guest machine... can i connect to it from another pc? |
| 00:14.07 | annadane | ah. sorry. |
| 00:14.08 | InvisibleRasta | what is th ebest solution? i know only vnc |
| 00:14.09 | annadane | i'm dumb. |
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| 00:14.22 | InvisibleRasta | srry im not english |
| 00:14.25 | Sveta | InvisibleRasta there is also x2go |
| 00:14.32 | Sveta | InvisibleRasta vnc is ok too |
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| 00:15.14 | annadane | no no, your question was perfectly intelligible |
| 00:15.23 | annadane | i just wildly misinterpreted it, that's my faul |
| 00:15.23 | annadane | t |
| 00:15.59 | watchcat | oh, and make sure your cpu virtualization is enabled in bios if you want the vm to fly. |
| 00:16.30 | watchcat | for me it's iommu enabled |
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| 00:22.55 | InvisibleRasta | nice |
| 00:22.57 | InvisibleRasta | thank you |
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| 00:31.53 | mebus | How can I allow connections to a certain tcp port only from a certain IPv6 Subnet? |
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| 00:32.03 | mebus | in nftables on Debian ? |
| 00:32.16 | hyperlumic | mebus: iptables/ufw can easily do that. |
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| 00:32.28 | hyperlumic | Oh, in nftables. |
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| 00:32.49 | mebus | yep :D nftalbes :D |
| 00:34.02 | hyperlumic | I hate nftables, so I have no idea. |
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| 00:36.00 | hyperlumic | But probably something like 'ip saddr x:x:x:x::/64 dport xxx accept' |
| 00:36.20 | hyperlumic | s/dport/tcp dport/ |
| 00:36.27 | hyperlumic | s/ip/ip6/ |
| 00:36.56 | hyperlumic | ip6 saddr x:x:x:x::/64 tcp dport xxx accept |
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| 00:37.47 | hyperlumic | That's just a wild guess, so definitely check/test the crap out of that, if I'm even anywhere close. |
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| 01:14.09 | Ameisen | Wasn't able to get my Windows machine talking to the Debian machine via NFS |
| 01:14.15 | Ameisen | samba worked though |
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| 01:26.34 | watchcat | ssh/sftp always seem to work. |
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| 03:27.08 | Kremator | hey folks, which was the last version of debian to still support privative AMD flgrx drivers? |
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| 04:00.14 | m0rd3cai | hey has anyone here used Stubby (dns over tls)? I can find more than enough docs on how to setup stubby server but no info on how to setup dns on local machine to use stubby. anyone have any experience |
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| 04:24.20 | watchcat | not sure what stubby needs but i could tell you how to set up dnsmasq for local caching dns. |
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| 04:39.45 | m0rd3cai | watchcat: its a loopback server run off my router which accepts connections on port 5453 and uses TLS instead of DNSSEC. i have the server running fine, I cant find any documentation on how to tell my laptop or dhcp server how to use the stubby server on 5453 |
| 04:40.05 | m0rd3cai | do i just put 192.168.1.1:5453 in the dns field? |
| 04:40.49 | m0rd3cai | its takes unencrypted dns requests and sends them to specified stubby compatible servers (cloudflare) wrapped in TLS |
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| 04:45.39 | watchcat | you set that in resolv.conf, but it usually gets overwriten by dhcp or various other things. you can try putting it in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 04:48.49 | watchcat | something like supersede domain-name-servers #.#.#.#:#, #.#.#.#:#; |
| 04:49.16 | watchcat | the seever ips on a separate line though |
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| 04:51.14 | watchcat | and you would just append those two lines to the end of the file. |
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| 05:34.36 | milossh | hi. I've two displays on my stretch. if I click four times on terminal icon, it opens 4 terminal windows so that they take up 100% of my main screen |
| 05:35.36 | milossh | now, my secondary screen has different resolution, and I want the same behavior for that screen, ie open 4 terminal windows in it, or somehow group these terminal windows |
| 05:35.40 | milossh | is that possible? |
| 05:35.57 | milossh | xfce, fwiw |
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| 05:52.31 | milossh | btw, how do you use terminator? |
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| 06:07.10 | danielboston26 | where is muttrc located if not in ~ or etc? |
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| 06:56.13 | rudi_s | ~/.mutt/muttrc |
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| 07:30.03 | teaearlgraycold | Why do people put /home on a different partition? |
| 07:31.04 | azi` | I am reading a guide that is supposed to help me make a bootable USB of a custom debian setup. In the guide it asks to detect the USB disk dev file (/dev/sda1) for me |
| 07:31.18 | azi` | then one needs to run parted, and here its where I get the following error |
| 07:31.27 | azi` | Error: Error opening /dev/sda: No medium found |
| 07:31.28 | teaearlgraycold | The USB drive is probably not sda... |
| 07:31.39 | azi` | what could be causing this? |
| 07:31.43 | teaearlgraycold | azi`, did you check fdisk to see what drives are available? |
| 07:31.49 | azi` | teaearlgraycold: hm |
| 07:31.53 | teaearlgraycold | sudo fdisk -l |
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| 07:32.49 | azi` | teaearlgraycold: this is the output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DJSRYYsjtK/ |
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| 07:33.32 | WoC | teaearlgraycold, /home is sometimes put on it on partition to prevent the system from running out of space due to users |
| 07:33.35 | azi` | teaearlgraycold: you might want to put /home on a diffeent partition so that you can smothly install different versions/distributions etc.. updating or re-installing the system then does not affect you |
| 07:33.46 | teaearlgraycold | azi`, doesn't look like you have a USB drive available |
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| 07:34.10 | azi` | teaearlgraycold: but its pluged, I just unmounted it |
| 07:34.11 | teaearlgraycold | Thanks for the answers |
| 07:34.19 | teaearlgraycold | shrugs |
| 07:34.23 | teaearlgraycold | fdisk doesn't see it |
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| 07:34.27 | azi` | hm |
| 07:34.55 | azi` | if I keep it mounted, fdisk shows it |
| 07:34.56 | azi` | Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type |
| 07:34.56 | azi` | /dev/sda1 * 8064 30277631 30269568 14,4G 83 Linux |
| 07:35.04 | teaearlgraycold | Yeah looks about right |
| 07:35.07 | azi` | but then in order to follow the guide I need to unmount |
| 07:35.40 | teaearlgraycold | Only thing I can guess is that the interface you're connecting the drive through has shitty drivers |
| 07:35.53 | azi` | hm |
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| 07:36.13 | sjamaan | tarzeau: I don't understand why it should fail. We do install -m 644 ./csc.mdoc "/var/www/debian/chicken/chicken-5.0.0/debian/tmp/usr/share/man/man1/csc.1" |
| 07:36.16 | teaearlgraycold | If you have a different type of port you can plug it in to that might run through a different device with different drivers |
| 07:36.30 | sjamaan | So the destdir should have the man page |
| 07:36.34 | teaearlgraycold | USB2.0 instead of 3.0, or use a type-C adapter, something like that |
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| 07:37.58 | WoC | azi`, try lsblk or blkid - as root |
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| 08:15.25 | azi` | WoC: that's what lsblk has to say https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CvQJ4NsHJP/ |
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| 08:16.18 | azi` | and blkid https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K3GZdrNWzT/ |
| 08:16.33 | azi` | note that this happens when i press the unmount button in gnome |
| 08:18.41 | WoC | hmmm |
| 08:20.12 | WoC | it is supposed to be a usb cd-drive attached with a cd in it ? |
| 08:20.55 | azi` | no |
| 08:20.58 | azi` | just a usb key |
| 08:21.32 | WoC | i dont think your usb drivers are loaded |
| 08:21.49 | WoC | try lsusb |
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| 08:23.14 | azi` | yep thats it Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0951:1666 Kingston Technology DataTraveler G4 |
| 08:23.25 | azi` | the device i mean |
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| 08:24.45 | WoC | it should show up with blkid and lsblk as well, if all drivers are ok |
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| 08:27.12 | WoC | as root; try modprobe usb-storage |
| 08:27.27 | WoC | and then blkid |
| 08:27.36 | WoC | see if it shows up |
| 08:27.43 | WoC | if not.... gtg |
| 08:27.55 | WoC | Sat Dec 1 02:27:54 CST 2018 |
| 08:28.01 | WoC | sleep time here |
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| 08:28.32 | azi` | WoC: sounds like this might work |
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| 08:28.54 | WoC | gr8, good luck |
| 08:29.18 | azi` | hm.. nope https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MKsVKKHpxf/ |
| 08:29.23 | azi` | blkid not showing anything |
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| 08:31.09 | milossh | when I get error in starting service, 217/USER, what does that mean, permissions? |
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| 09:15.33 | cheche | Good Morning, is there any other browser that support java in debian?. Firefox have drop their support on the latest update. |
| 09:16.04 | cheche | I need to access and old Access point that requiered java |
| 09:16.19 | Wulf | cheche: install some ancient OS in a VM. |
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| 09:16.38 | Wulf | and replace your AP. |
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| 09:17.31 | cheche | Wulf: I tried that. but it is a bit more complex. I am tunneling using ssh -L9000:192.168.1.2:80 remote.site -N |
| 09:18.04 | cheche | Wulf: so when I try to acceso from the VM the port is not open |
| 09:18.24 | Wulf | cheche: why do you need any ssh tunnels for your VM? |
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| 09:19.26 | jethro | cheche: use ssh -g -L ... |
| 09:19.26 | cheche | Wulf: oh, sorry. I am ssh from debian to a remote site. the VM is windows xp and I tried to connect to debian ip but the port is closed. |
| 09:20.25 | cheche | jethro: that works ! thanks! |
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| 09:21.33 | cheche | stilll, there is not a java browser somehow |
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| 09:34.18 | velix | Is there a way to make "apt search" just work on the package's title? 99% aren't in the scope of what I'm looking for. |
| 09:35.19 | Wulf | "if --names-only is given then the long description is not searched, only the package name and provided packages are" |
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| 09:36.02 | velix | Wulf: thanks a lot! |
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| 09:36.33 | velix | I'll make this default in m bash.rc |
| 09:36.58 | velix | Wulf: it works! great. Wow. Thanks. |
| 09:37.03 | Wulf | you're welcome. |
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| 09:46.06 | tarzeau | sjamaan: the csc.mdoc is a manual page? |
| 09:46.16 | tarzeau | sjamaan: is it generated? |
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| 09:53.57 | trysten | so i installed kitty. it works ok until I ssh to another debian server |
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| 09:54.27 | trysten | then, backspace stops working. most programs complain about `cannot find terminfo entry for xterm-kitty` |
| 09:55.32 | trysten | do i need to install kitty to the host machine so it has the term info? |
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| 10:57.17 | sjamaan | tarzeau: We install csc.mdoc _as_ csc.1; it is hand-crafted |
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| 12:10.14 | tarzeau | sjamaan: aha |
| 12:12.08 | tarzeau | sjamaan: i see the problem now there's a debian/*manpages that wants to install it with source being csc.1 but it's csc.mdoc |
| 12:13.07 | tarzeau | sjamaan: rebuilding with that manpages installer removed... |
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| 12:29.25 | strk | all of a sudden my scp calls behave in a weird way: they quickly report 100% but never end, and on the other side the filesize is always 0 |
| 12:29.41 | strk | any idea what could trigger this ? |
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| 12:31.49 | strk | doesn't happen with a simple text file |
| 12:31.55 | strk | but does happen with an executable |
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| 12:41.02 | tarzeau | sjamaan: it built! |
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| 12:41.18 | tarzeau | sjamaan: can you install the packages to see if it works? |
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| 13:49.50 | EmleyMoor | Anyone around who might be able to help me with a network/NetworkManager problem? I am completely unable to get my IPv6 addresses to work on my bridge0 interface, as of today. They stick at "tentative" |
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| 14:02.37 | jelly | strk, similar symptoms can happen if you have very little upload bandwidth for a file; just wait until it's finished |
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| 14:11.39 | BCMM | jelly: what's the mechanism for it reporting 100%? does it mean the whole file is sitting a network buffer somewhere or something? |
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| 14:14.31 | jelly | no idea. It's just another broke progress bar. |
| 14:16.24 | at0m | to be sure (especially on usb sticks, SD cards), sync after completion. sometimes buffer is filled but not emptied |
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| 14:49.57 | rk[ghost] | anyone have a "definitive guide to unicode" ? (command line (bash), ssh, screen/tmux, xmodmap, ect?) |
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| 14:52.45 | tarzeau | sjamaan: i've also rebuilt it with some other updates in the 9 sub directory, now the package is almost ready for official, the manpages need get installed too though |
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| 15:58.49 | doublehp | which package owns /bin/netcat ? |
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| 16:05.30 | booyah | doublehp: apt-file search /bin/netcat |
| 16:05.31 | joepublic | doublehp, to find out: dpkg -S /bin/netcat |
| 16:05.54 | doublehp | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /bin/netcat |
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| 16:06.52 | joepublic | oh, it's a symlink to /etc/alternatives/netcat |
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| 16:08.23 | joepublic | on my system that's a symlink to /bin/nc.openbsd which belongs to pkg netcat-openbsd (but I am not running debian so check yours) |
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| 16:17.09 | doublehp | i am missing X fonts; which package will inject them by deps ? |
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| 16:21.57 | joepublic | well, xord depends on them. |
| 16:22.06 | joepublic | s/xord/xorg/ |
| 16:22.19 | joepublic | or you could install xfonts-base ? |
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| 16:46.45 | BCMM | rk[ghost]: what about unicode? i mean, most software in debian is just sorta going to support it by default at this point |
| 16:46.50 | BCMM | rk[ghost]: if you set an appropriate locale, anyway |
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| 16:55.01 | rk[ghost] | what i mean is somethign that tells me how to set it, shows me how to get fonts (within debian framework), tells me how to configure it so it works over ssh, works with screen, works with tmux, and then goes as far as how to set up hotkeys for the different unicode symbols with xmodmap |
| 16:55.10 | rk[ghost] | i forget how all that works, as it has been a while. |
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| 17:08.43 | strk | jelly, at0m ... I'm scp'ing in a LAN, so bandwidth cannot really be the problem |
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| 17:09.19 | strk | there, I just tried again and it worked fine (A->B) |
| 17:09.26 | strk | 100% 2665KB 11.1MB/s 00:00 |
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| 17:09.57 | azi` | I've created a tiny debian "live cd" using the debootstrap comand. now any time I run the live USB I em prompted with the login screen |
| 17:10.09 | strk | B->A gives the same exact symptoms |
| 17:10.10 | azi` | is there a way to set debian to always start x automatically? |
| 17:10.17 | strk | 100% 2043KB 136.2KB/s 00:15 # and counting |
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| 17:10.34 | strk | 100% 2043KB 60.1KB/s 00:34 |
| 17:10.35 | joepublic | azi`, yes, there are multiple ways. |
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| 17:10.46 | strk | it's like it stops transferring after 2043KB, so it never ends |
| 17:10.54 | strk | something destrois the connection from B->A |
| 17:10.55 | joepublic | most involve things with "dm" on the end of the name, such as lightdm |
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| 17:10.58 | azi` | joepublic: i am looking for the most simple option possible, the live cd is created with a bash script |
| 17:10.59 | strk | while A->B scp works gret |
| 17:11.39 | strk | running scp on A, to _fetch_ from B, also stalls |
| 17:11.51 | joepublic | well, do want x to start automatically for your user, or x to start automatically before anyone logs in |
| 17:12.31 | azi` | joepublic: so right now after the usb loads I am prompted with the usual tty login |
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| 17:12.43 | azi` | i'd like it to start with the X screen, root user already logged in |
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| 17:14.05 | strk | it's probably unrelated, but ssh into B (the machine _from_ which scp stalls) gives me a broken terminal, where backspace echoes to screen [001B]g |
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| 17:16.21 | n4dir | azi`: no clue if this works, all i know the how-to is there: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=123694 |
| 17:17.40 | azi` | n4dir: thanks |
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| 17:29.39 | pipo65 | help |
| 17:30.33 | pipo65 | someone has idea about dns ?? |
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| 17:34.36 | annadane | Did Not Stay (in channel) |
| 17:35.03 | n4dir | lol. |
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| 17:40.03 | strk | my scp issue ended up with: packet_write_wait: Connection to 192.168.1.82 port 22: Connection timed out |
| 17:40.18 | strk | what could be so destructive of a connection, only in one way ? |
| 17:40.23 | strk | (the other way works great) |
| 17:41.15 | nunojpg | is there a recommended way of having a .deb package refusing to install in a old distribution? |
| 17:42.04 | jhutchins | nunojpg: Are you trying to force it to install or to prevent it from installing? |
| 17:42.45 | nunojpg | jhutchins: prevent. I want to build packages that will be very hard to install in the wrong distribution. |
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| 17:43.17 | jhutchins | Make a dependency on the current version of some other package. |
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| 17:43.45 | jhutchins | nunojpg: Why would you want to do that though? Wouldn't it be better to have the package compatible across several releases? |
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| 17:47.06 | nunojpg | jhutchins: with dpkg -i it is installed and replaces a previously installed package. It fails at configuration level with unmet dependencies. I want to fail before it replaces anything. |
| 17:47.15 | strk | oh.. https://serverfault.com/questions/180103/scp-fails-in-one-direction |
| 17:47.25 | strk | there *might* be a reason related to terminal or whatnot |
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| 17:54.28 | jhutchins | nunojpg: Make it check the dependencies. I'm not sure of the details, but that's the right thing to do anyway. |
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| 17:55.50 | jhutchins | I'm sure you've seen something fail with "foo depends on libfoo>=1.12.3 but libfoo is not available" (something like that). |
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| 18:04.29 | strk | I must have a filename with unprintable character or something |
| 18:04.38 | strk | as even a `ls -a` makes my terminal unusable |
| 18:04.46 | strk | some killing control char |
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| 18:06.07 | strk | cat .bashrc-backup # makes my terminal unusable |
| 18:07.37 | strk | and I cannot even copy that file to the machine from which I'm using it, as any attempt to scp stalls |
| 18:08.33 | joepublic | perhaps less .evil-file to see what's viewable. or view with midnight commander (mc, select file, f3) |
| 18:10.55 | strk | gah, this is really frustrating, it's not even always stopping at the same line |
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| 18:11.04 | strk | sometimes it shows nothing, sometimes it shows some lines |
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| 18:11.19 | strk | it's like the TCP connection drops all of a sudden, upon receiving some message |
| 18:11.33 | strk | The following packages will be upgraded: openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server |
| 18:11.36 | strk | let's see if that helps |
| 18:12.18 | strk | did not |
| 18:12.23 | at0m | strk: you don't need openssh-sftp-server for scp |
| 18:12.31 | at0m | if you can ssh, you can scp |
| 18:12.59 | strk | the above happened when I did: apt-get install ssh |
| 18:13.03 | strk | anyway, didn't help |
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| 18:14.19 | strk | gah, even cat known_hosts hangs |
| 18:14.28 | strk | that file is 32360 bytes |
| 18:15.06 | strk | cat /etc/issue # works |
| 18:15.08 | strk | cat /etc/hosts # hangs |
| 18:15.21 | strk | goes doing it on the actual machine terminal |
| 18:15.52 | jelly | strk, if your tcp connection stalls on _any_ quick, large output, that sounds like MTU issues |
| 18:16.02 | jelly | strk, try ls -lR / |
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| 18:17.11 | strk | from the local machine everything works fine |
| 18:17.39 | strk | ls -lR / # also works fine from the _local_ machine, now getting back to the other machine, to check terminal |
| 18:18.09 | strk | I confirm, from the ssh session (from the other machine) ls -lR / stops almost immediately |
| 18:18.17 | strk | total 753372 # and hangs there |
| 18:18.25 | strk | cannot even kill with ^C |
| 18:18.27 | fred`` | i want to have vsftpd and pure-ftp installed at the same time, but the apt always announces to uninstall 'the first' ftpd when trying to instell 'the second' one. these ftps will listen on different ports. how to install them both at the same time ? |
| 18:18.41 | strk | it just took the terminal control, stsalling it forever. Any idea jelly ? |
| 18:18.52 | jelly | strk, right. are ssh client and servers systems on the same local network segment, or is there one or one router or similar network elements in between? |
| 18:18.55 | strk | I've no idea what changed, as it usually worked |
| 18:19.07 | strk | there's a router in between, which today had connection problems |
| 18:19.12 | strk | maybe something changed in the router configuration |
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| 18:19.19 | strk | it's an ADSL modem |
| 18:19.23 | strk | netgear |
| 18:19.52 | strk | it did have unexpected configuration changed in its lifetime (it's a linux based appliance if I understood correctly) |
| 18:20.15 | jelly | strk, manually lower MTU on the ssh client interface that faces towards ssh server, to, say, 1280, and try again |
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| 18:21.09 | jelly | ip l set eth0 mtu 1280 |
| 18:21.54 | strk | never heard of "ip" command before, nice ! |
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| 18:22.02 | jelly | previously: ifconfig eth0 mtu 1280 |
| 18:22.12 | strk | oh |
| 18:22.37 | strk | current mtu is 1500 on both sides |
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| 18:23.45 | strk | jelly: it seemed to work |
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| 18:24.12 | strk | scp now also works perfectly |
| 18:24.18 | strk | now to find out what changed, and why |
| 18:24.28 | strk | jelly: does this sound like something that changed on the router ? |
| 18:24.40 | strk | there's also a switch involved, but that's probably too dummy to have a role here |
| 18:24.49 | jelly | could be any network element in between |
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| 18:27.26 | jelly | there's a thing called pMTUd on linux supposed to figure out changes in MTU transparently, but it requires coopreation from network elements (in particular, not blocking some icmp traffic) |
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| 18:32.59 | strk | I'm going to see if the router GUI tells me anything about mtu of its interfaces |
| 18:33.20 | strk | "A router firmware upgrade is available" .. uhm |
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| 18:35.26 | strk | MTU size setting I only find in WAN setup, not LAN setup |
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| 18:35.34 | strk | it's set to 1458 there |
| 18:35.46 | jelly | you said ADSL modem, that usually means there are lots more network elements between you and some machine somewhere on the internet |
| 18:36.26 | strk | weird value |
| 18:36.36 | strk | both machines are on the LAN |
| 18:36.45 | strk | so outside internet is not really involved here |
| 18:36.57 | strk | but I bet that value 1458 has a role here |
| 18:37.04 | jelly | unlikely |
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| 18:37.11 | strk | still, the failure was just in one side communication, not the other |
| 18:37.13 | strk | uhm |
| 18:37.17 | strk | A -> B worked |
| 18:37.20 | strk | B -> A did not |
| 18:37.25 | strk | both A and B MTU was set to 1500 |
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| 18:37.36 | strk | setting B MTU to 1280 fixed it |
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| 18:37.56 | jelly | if they're on local LAN then MTU issues are unusual |
| 18:37.57 | strk | both A and B are connected via ethernet cable to this router |
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| 18:38.28 | jelly | that kind of implies the router is doing more than just simple bridging between two ports |
| 18:39.18 | jelly | might want to ask ##networking for more clues |
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| 18:39.32 | strk | I tried setting MTU back to 1500 and I again hav ethe problem |
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| 18:39.48 | strk | there: setting it to 1458 fixes it again |
| 18:40.03 | jelly | and 1480? :-) |
| 18:40.18 | strk | 1460 is enough to break it |
| 18:40.33 | strk | 1458 is the value I find in the router GUI (http based) |
| 18:40.48 | strk | only, it is in the WAN section, whereas I cannot find any MTU setting in the LAN section |
| 18:40.59 | strk | these linux things are always unfriendly :P |
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| 18:41.06 | jelly | the thing might indeed by buggy enough to impose that setting across the board |
| 18:41.12 | strk | I bet if I change the WAN MTU back to 1500 things will work again |
| 18:41.22 | strk | will try that |
| 18:41.23 | jelly | that would be silly and break LAN traficc |
| 18:41.55 | jelly | strk, if you change WAN MTU you might break your internet connectivity |
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| 18:42.57 | jelly | configuring an ADSL router correctly however is out of scope for #debian |
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| 18:44.09 | strk | jelly: I'm still here |
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| 18:44.16 | strk | wan mtu 1500 |
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| 18:44.32 | strk | now I can set machine's mtu to 1500 and things work again |
| 18:44.33 | strk | damn router |
| 18:44.40 | jelly | maybe you are, becuase irc traffic is low and comes in small packets |
| 18:44.44 | strk | it's always like that, one day it starts having "red" leds, then something breaks... |
| 18:44.48 | strk | ok, good point |
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| 18:45.12 | strk | I should ask if my provider changed MTU of the router, is that possible to do ? the router is mine... |
| 18:45.15 | jelly | but try downloading and uploading something in MB size |
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| 18:45.34 | strk | btw, there's that pending available firmware update I could apply |
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| 18:47.19 | strk | jelly: so I'm going to lower this back to 1458... |
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| 19:31.37 | fred`` | i want to have vsftpd and pure-ftp installed at the same time, but the apt always announces to uninstall 'the first' ftpd when trying to instell 'the second' one. these ftps will listen on different ports. how to install them both at the same time ? |
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| 19:32.32 | annadane | Conflicts: ftp-server |
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| 19:33.06 | fred`` | yes - but it there a way to install them both ? |
| 19:33.29 | fred`` | *but is there |
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| 19:34.16 | fred`` | ofc i could compile one of these manually but then i will forget about it and it wont be upgraded by the pkg-system |
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| 20:22.18 | storrgie | is there a way to use backports with apt, or is apt-get -t required? |
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| 20:23.17 | hyperlumic | apt -t <repo> install package |
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| 20:23.38 | hyperlumic | !ops Zavoli Spamming multiple channels. |
| 20:23.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: hyperlumic complains about a problem (see above) |
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| 20:23.54 | storrgie | hyperlumic, in this case would <repo> be `backports`? |
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| 20:24.30 | hyperlumic | storrgie: stretch-backports or whatever repo you've configured in sources.list. |
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| 20:26.23 | storrgie | hyperlumic, is it possible to do a `stable-backports` or does it have to be release specific? |
| 20:27.14 | hyperlumic | It SHOULD be release specific, as should your sources.list. |
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| 20:31.21 | annadane | storrgie, your sources list should be stretch-backports, not stable-backports |
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| 20:31.35 | annadane | your sources list should also say stretch and not stable |
| 20:31.49 | annadane | because what happens when stretch no longer is stable, replaced by buster? |
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| 20:42.24 | storrgie | annadane, thanks, thats good advice |
| 20:42.32 | storrgie | I'm doing my first install of ZFS on debian stretch, I'm wondering if there is a particular reason that out of the box these services wouldn't be able to start (https://gist.githubusercontent.com/storrgie/eaea159026f575a5c5a46fd77230528d/raw/c3ed69c181808acb1673dce32b1c9efae2f9d336/gistfile1.txt) |
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| 20:47.14 | RoyK | storrgie: root on zfs? |
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| 20:48.42 | storrgie | not planning on it, just want to use it for other disks |
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| 20:51.13 | storrgie | it appears that the kernel module isnt loaded when I reboot the system |
| 20:51.31 | SerajewelKS | did you update the initramfs after installing zfs |
| 20:51.58 | storrgie | I did not (however I didn't see that in the guide |
| 20:52.07 | storrgie | err, doc |
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| 20:53.29 | storrgie | `apt -t stretch-backports install zfs-dkms zfsutils-linux`, reboot, `lsmod | grep zfs` no module loaded |
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| 20:56.10 | storrgie | apparently this is going on --> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=864348 |
| 20:56.11 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/864348 in zfs-dkms (closed, d-i): «zfs-dkms: Failed to start Mount ZFS filesystems - The ZFS modules are not loaded»; severity: important; opened: 2017-06-07; last modified: 2017-09-18. |
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| 21:02.41 | tpo2 | When building dia, a C app, with dpkg-buildpackage in jessie, the build runs through without a failure. So there's very little is logged to the console. However I'd like to see the build logs none the less. However no .build file is produced. How can I force dpkg-buildpackage to show me the build logs (what gcc is doing etc.)? |
| 21:02.43 | reber | Heyall, how to get the same environment in the crontab than with the real user plz ? |
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| 21:04.27 | tpo2 | reber, maybe `man login` could be useful to you? |
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| 21:30.53 | jhutchins | ,v xfdesktop4 |
| 21:30.54 | judd | Package: xfdesktop4 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.8.3-2; jessie: 4.10.2-3; stretch: 4.12.3-3; buster: 4.12.4-2; sid: 4.12.4-2; experimental: 4.13.2-1 |
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| 21:34.18 | jhutchins | When I boot my new 9.6 install on a previously UEFI laptop, I get "Invalid partition table!". If I press escape, I get a normal boot. |
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| 21:34.59 | jhutchins | I suspect that this may be because I have both a GPT and an MPT. Can anyone confirm that that might be the cause and tell me what tool to use to fix it? |
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| 21:49.48 | jhutchins | Is there a tool that can tell me if I have both partitiont tables and remove the GPT? |
| 21:50.08 | jhutchins | Crud, sorry 'bout that. |
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| 21:53.37 | Lambertini | Can anyone help me with apache and wsgi ? |
| 21:53.44 | annadane | Lambertini, only if you ask |
| 21:54.37 | Lambertini | annadane :D sure |
| 21:54.41 | Lambertini | I am trying to configure wsgi with virtualhosts, but it is not working |
| 21:54.54 | Lambertini | i try follow this steps |
| 21:54.55 | Lambertini | http://pythonclub.com.br/configurando-ambiente-django-com-apache-e-mod-wsgi.html |
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| 21:56.49 | Lambertini | i make active vitualhosts with a2ensite and reload, but dont work, i see only the script appears and not the hellow word message |
| 21:57.34 | Lambertini | but if I configure it directly in apache.conf, it works, but I lose all other languages like php |
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| 22:11.12 | tpo2 | Lambertini, are you sure your virtual host config is loaded? Put some error in it and apache will complain, if it is loaded. Virtual host configuration files need to follow some nomenclature, so maybe you got the naming wrong? |
| 22:13.46 | Lambertini | tpo2 yah he works allrigth, return other folders |
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| 22:15.26 | jhutchins | Lambertini: you might find apache2ctl -t, apache2ctl -S useful. |
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| 22:25.08 | Lambertini | hard |
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| 22:40.51 | jhutchins | Lambertini: Yeah, at first, but once you figure it out it makes sense. Make good use of the Apache documentation on the web. |
| 22:41.11 | cluelessperson | hm, I'm trying to add a user to the sudoers file so they can run a command as another user |
| 22:41.23 | cluelessperson | zabbix All=(application) NOPASSWD: /var/application/client.sh |
| 22:41.28 | cluelessperson | however it still asks the password |
| 22:41.31 | cluelessperson | don't know why |
| 22:41.50 | cluelessperson | su - zabbix; sudo -u application /var/application/client.sh |
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| 22:43.32 | jhutchins | cluelessperson: iirc the ALL=(ALL) is <user>=(<host>) |
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| 22:49.51 | iovec | Is there any timeline on when emacs 26 will be uploaded to experimental |
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| 22:51.10 | tpo2 | iovec, wouldn't it be better to ask the maintainer(s)? |
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| 22:52.56 | joepublic | yeah they love answering that kind of stuff |
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| 22:58.13 | annadane | iovec, they're working on it but it involves something like rebuilding other packages |
| 22:58.19 | annadane | i'm not sure about the details |
| 22:58.42 | annadane | https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/8o2ced/when_will_emacs_26_come_in_debian/ |
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| 23:01.34 | VlanX | Hello! I'm trying to install pico2wave in debian 9 but to no avail. Could someone kindly help me out? |
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| 23:01.46 | Voidablazer | Anyone know Lua here? |
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| 23:03.48 | joepublic | VlanX, are you working from their instructions https://kalliope-project.github.io/kalliope/installation/debian/ and if so, at what point does your avail become no avail? |
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| 23:05.37 | joepublic | dpkg, tell Voidablazer about ask |
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| 23:05.56 | annadane | iovec, emacs 26 can be installed via flatpak if you trust that kind of thing (research it and come up with your own opinion but IMO it's trustworthy) |
| 23:06.26 | annadane | flatpak is packaged for debian stable and backports |
| 23:06.34 | Voidablazer | joepublic: I want to know the difference between these two |
| 23:06.36 | Voidablazer | https://github.com/vayan/autosub-mpv/blob/master/autosub.lua |
| 23:06.44 | Voidablazer | https://gist.github.com/selsta/ce3fb37e775dbd15c698#file-autosub-lua |
| 23:06.50 | Voidablazer | First is a fork of second |
| 23:06.59 | iovec | annadane: ok, thanks (for both) |
| 23:07.57 | VlanX | joepublic: I have also an Ubuntu vm and it's as simple as apt-get install. So is it normal that the procedure in debian is much more complex? |
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| 23:09.00 | annadane | flatpaks are also sandboxed but i don't know how well |
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