| 00:01.25 | epergny | bites: it's less work but I'm realizing it may actually take longer (apt-get dist-upgrade sure takes time) : ) |
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| 00:03.51 | Unit193 | epergny: ...You could enable crazy mode, but I don't think people would generally recommend it. |
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| 00:34.31 | HeXiLeD | hey guys, qPDFview does not seem to do duplex printing. Any other app you can recommend ? |
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| 01:04.55 | fareast | my battery meter isn't reporting correctly |
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| 01:05.23 | fareast | I am guessing it might be a battery update or some kind of compatibility issue with the acpi |
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| 01:49.13 | tharkun | Good $DATE I've been using xpdf for like allways but with the deprecation of X and the coming of age of wayland I believe it will eventualy be deprecated. Any dropin replacement with the degree of compliance to the standard that does not goble up a lot of ram? |
| 01:50.44 | k_sze[work] | I need some help mapping out the storage topology of my server. |
| 01:52.34 | tharkun | k_sze[work]: meaning? |
| 01:53.17 | k_sze[work] | The server has 6 spinning HDD and 1 Intel SSD. I suspect two of the spinning HDD are used to form the root xfs. |
| 01:53.25 | k_sze[work] | But I'm not sure. |
| 01:53.57 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: Any hardware raid controllers involved? |
| 01:54.35 | k_sze[work] | There's an aacraid package, but it's probably quite outdated and I want to get rid of it if I can. |
| 01:54.46 | k_sze[work] | To slim down and remove unused packages. |
| 01:55.19 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: What is aacraid? |
| 01:55.37 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: that's for Adaptec RAID adapters. |
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| 01:56.47 | k_sze[work] | It's a Supermicro server and I don't see any RAID adapter in the PCI-E slots. |
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| 01:57.12 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: You'd want to know if that's being used. (The trouble with hardware raid is that you need compatible replacement controllers in case a controller dies or you need to move to another box. Plus, a lot of hardware raid isn't. It's just proprietary software raid.) |
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| 01:57.39 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: I know. |
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| 01:57.59 | k_sze[work] | I think we *used* to have some Adaptec RAID card installed, but we removed them at some point. |
| 01:58.28 | k_sze[work] | If I'm not mistaken, we just use Linux's software RAID, XFS, or ZFS now. |
| 01:58.29 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: Could be on the motherboard. What does "lspci -nn" say? |
| 01:58.45 | k_sze[work] | let me check |
| 02:00.47 | k_sze[work] | `lspci -nn | grep -i raid` shows nothing |
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| 02:01.31 | k_sze[work] | Same if I `grep -i adapted` or `grep -i pmc` (another one of adaptec's names). |
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| 02:02.28 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: You'd probably want to look for adaptic. At least that'd be me. But it might be safest to scan all the output. Or paste it so somebody here can. |
| 02:03.18 | k_sze[work] | actually, `grep -v Intel | grep -v NVIDIA` shows only two lines |
| 02:03.39 | k_sze[work] | both something about ASPEED graphics and pci-to-pci bridge. |
| 02:04.24 | m0rd3cai | hey guys got a quick question. im running deb 8 on a VM for server. small vm, just 2 cpu and 2 gigs of ram. Wanted to see how full i could fill ram without crashing machine, no swap. im down to about 125-130mb ram free, have for the last week or so. you all think 130mb of ram free will work? server works fine, just shows very little. |
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| 02:05.00 | m0rd3cai | little free ram* |
| 02:05.34 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: here's the complete thing: https://paste.debian.net/1023208/ |
| 02:06.10 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: I'd say no adaptec then. Wouldn't hurt to look at dmesg output but you're probably safe. |
| 02:06.15 | somiaj | !free ram |
| 02:06.15 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
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| 02:06.55 | karlpinc | m0rd3cai: The OOM killer will probably keep your machine from crashing. It will just kill processes instead. |
| 02:06.57 | somiaj | m0rd3cai: there are also kernel features that will kill off high memory processes if the machine starts to run out of memory. |
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| 02:08.22 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: great |
| 02:08.34 | k_sze[work] | And now onto the xfs root. |
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| 02:08.55 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: The next step is to look at mdadm and lvm to see if that's being used. pvdisplay vgdisplay, lvdisplay. I forget the mdadm stuff. |
| 02:09.23 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: And I don't know xfs. |
| 02:10.17 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: It also helps to have in front of you the device names and sizes and capabilities of each of your physical drives. (dmesg again will help) |
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| 02:27.12 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: https://paste.debian.net/1023211/ |
| 02:28.21 | k_sze[work] | Oops, I forgot lvdisplay: https://paste.debian.net/1023213/ |
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| 02:31.33 | k_sze[work] | The info about the storage devices have long been scrolled out of dmesg |
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| 02:48.30 | bug | lsblk -f ? |
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| 02:55.41 | wj | the new xwayland , gdm run on the tty1, gnome-session run on the tty2? |
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| 02:56.07 | wj | is this diffrent from the xorg? |
| 02:58.42 | wj | i work in the debian testing release |
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| 03:06.42 | m0rd3cai | karlpinc somiaj thanks! no issues so far and i dont want my costs to double so here hoping! |
| 03:06.44 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: https://paste.debian.net/1023214/ |
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| 03:17.50 | wj | https://paste.debian.net/1023216/ |
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| 03:21.04 | rootkea | Hello! I'm running Claws Mail 3.14.1 on Debian Stretch. I would like to know the mail storage location. PS - There is no ~/Mail directory |
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| 03:25.46 | dvs | rootkea, maildir? |
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| 03:30.23 | rootkea | dvs: I don't think claws mail uses maildir |
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| 05:17.22 | liveuser1 | has there been many complaints of bash reporting no such file when attempting to run things? |
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| 05:18.08 | liveuser1 | avahi was the last thing being worked on and after a reboot it started reporting no such file |
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| 05:18.33 | liveuser1 | an example cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:18.48 | liveuser1 | "no such file or directory" |
| 05:20.05 | liveuser1 | I'm suspecting there were some sort of garbage in the packages. |
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| 05:20.33 | liveuser1 | sphinx? |
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| 05:21.02 | liveuser1 | any pointers before doing a complete reinstall? |
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| 05:21.35 | liveuser1 | if each tool downloads 30 or more packages compiled from pages of code |
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| 05:21.58 | liveuser1 | looking isn't really practicle |
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| 05:22.40 | liveuser1 | though I see unsolved complaints similar to this on google |
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| 05:29.57 | AquaticWeasel | I installed bumblebee on my optimus laptop and blacklisted nouveau in grub. But my laptop freezes during the load screen when it says loading simple display manager. |
| 05:30.43 | AquaticWeasel | I followed through the debian wiki instructions but this happened :( |
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| 06:39.39 | rigoadsb | hi. i might miss here something. wrote an init.d script that starts and stops airdcppd but as i start it it runs in the foreground. the command itself is the following |
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| 07:10.54 | jelly | rigoadsb: if your tool does not background on its own you'll have to daemonize it somehow if you want to start it from an init script. systemd unit syntax can deal with processes that want to run in foreground, instead. |
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| 07:11.31 | jelly | or use a helper like |
| 07:11.33 | jelly | ,i daemon |
| 07:11.34 | judd | Package daemon (utils, optional) in stretch/amd64: turns other processes into daemons. Version: 0.6.4-1+b2; Size: 93.8k; Installed: 275k; Homepage: http://www.libslack.org/daemon/ |
| 07:11.41 | jelly | in your init script |
| 07:11.42 | rigoadsb | jelly: i'm the one from yesterday who had to remove systemd :) i've found the "screen" though. |
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| 07:12.33 | jelly | running screen -dmS ... is really more a hack |
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| 07:13.00 | jelly | but can be useful if you can also control the process from a terminal |
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| 07:14.41 | rigoadsb | yeah. good enough for me |
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| 07:23.16 | rigoadsb | thanks again |
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| 08:28.44 | tdn | I am trying to install chromium, but it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libkf5kcmutils5 : Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.8.0+git20150324.0130+15.04) but it is not going to be installed <- This seems broken? How do I fix this? As far as I know, I do not have any third party sources that might cause this |
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| 08:34.58 | tdn | How do I find out whats wrong and fix it? |
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| 08:38.48 | blaztek | tdn: either install the missing dependency or purge the package that needs it |
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| 08:40.37 | tdn | blaztek, if I purge libkf5kcmutils5, it will remove all this: https://pastebin.com/9Gen1Cu5 <- That does not seem safe. |
| 08:41.46 | blaztek | tdn: install the missing dependency |
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| 08:42.15 | tdn | libkf5quickaddons5 is already the newest version (5.28.0-1). |
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| 08:42.42 | tdn | Not sure what to do? |
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| 08:44.00 | k_sze[work] | How do I check if my debian server has any desktop environment (remotely)? |
| 08:44.09 | k_sze[work] | from ssh, I mean. |
| 08:44.46 | tdn | k_sze[work], run "xclock" ? |
| 08:44.56 | jelly | k_sze[work]: dpkg -l task-\*-desktop |
| 08:45.10 | blaztek | k_sze[work]: which xterm |
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| 08:46.38 | jelly | dpkg, tell tdn about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 08:47.17 | tdn | jelly, ok, thanks. Will gather info and return. |
| 08:48.58 | Johann | k_sze[work]: well you should check if you have an x server installed (which is needed by most desktop environment): aptitude search '~i xserver' |
| 08:50.04 | k_sze[work] | dpkg -l task-\*-desktop |
| 08:50.05 | dpkg | ii task-\*-desktop 1.4-15 k_sze[work]'s private stamp collection |
| 08:50.08 | k_sze[work] | shows nothing |
| 08:50.51 | k_sze[work] | `aptitude search '~i xserver'` show x11-xserver-utils and xserver-common |
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| 08:54.18 | Johann | and to make sure search for wayland-server |
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| 08:55.54 | k_sze[work] | Johann: in? |
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| 08:56.33 | k_sze[work] | `dpkg -l '*wayland*'` shows libwayland-client0 and libwayland-cursor0 as installed. |
| 08:56.52 | jelly | k_sze[work]: so you don't have anything desktopy installed, just a couple libs |
| 08:57.09 | k_sze[work] | xwayland would be the actual wayland server, right? |
| 08:57.29 | jelly | dunno |
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| 08:57.38 | Johann | k_sze[work]: no, xwayland is an xserver to use x11 application with wayland |
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| 08:59.35 | k_sze[work] | There's a libwayland-server0 package if I `apt search wayland`, but that's still just a library, if I understand correctly. |
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| 10:34.45 | duchman | list |
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| 10:41.33 | petn-randall | duchman: Try !list |
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| 11:11.28 | noodlepie | Traitor what now? |
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| 11:13.11 | eirikb | Hi. I'm on deep water here, but I'm trying to PXE boot based on this guide: https://www.hiroom2.com/2017/07/01/debian-9-pxeboot-thin-client-nfs-en/ . Running it in VBox. This works great. Now I want to replace debootstrap with a mount of an existing vmdk debian install, shouldn't I be able to do a simple "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /srv/nfs4"? I tried th |
| 11:13.12 | eirikb | is, and I get the error: "mount: Stale file handler" |
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| 11:13.40 | eirikb | Here is a gist with my custom version of the install script, journalctrl (host) and a video from VBox (PXE client): https://gist.github.com/eirikb/b06a4e350dfcef0ad553623b0e657821 |
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| 11:23.52 | k_sze | It's ok to create an LVM2 snapshot volume that is smaller than the original, provided that I expect very little write until I'm done with the snapshot, right? |
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| 11:29.27 | alkisg | eirikb: any reason you're not just using ltsp to netboot, which does everything out of the box? |
| 11:30.28 | eirikb | alkisg: I'm not aware of it, does it achieve the same thing? |
| 11:30.41 | alkisg | eirikb: ltsp.org is about netbooting clients, yes |
| 11:30.43 | tdn | jelly, https://pastebin.com/41yxZtAV <-- These are all the info relevant for apt- troubleshooting |
| 11:30.51 | alkisg | E.g. I'm using it to netboot a series of VMs |
| 11:32.33 | tdn | I am trying to install chromium, but it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libkf5kcmutils5 : Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.8.0+git20150324.0130+15.04) but it is not going to be installed <- This seems broken? How do I fix this? As far as I know, I do not have any third party sources that might cause this. Info relevant for apt troubleshooting info: https://pastebin.com/41yxZtAV |
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| 11:38.14 | eirikb | alkisg: All commands run on client will be run on the client? |
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| 11:38.45 | alkisg | eirikb: ltsp has a server part, ltsp-server, and a client part, ltsp-client. See a small how to there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp |
| 11:39.15 | alkisg | tdn: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
| 11:39.20 | alkisg | tdn: so, any held packages? |
| 11:39.33 | tdn | alkisg, how to check? |
| 11:39.49 | alkisg | apt-mark showhold |
| 11:40.04 | tdn | alkisg, empty output |
| 11:40.28 | eirikb | alkisg: I was confused by the sentence "..that allows many people to simultaneously use the same computer", but I guess that would be "thin client", while it also supports "fat clients"? |
| 11:40.57 | alkisg | eirikb: exactly, and fat clients are the recommended method noadays |
| 11:41.48 | alkisg | tdn, aptitude shows better output for debugging such things, you might want to give it a try |
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| 11:43.08 | eirikb | alkisg: I see there are some parts about fat clients mounting home directories on the host, and using host to authenticate, perhaps this can be skipped? I just want to boot an image on clients, and that's it |
| 11:43.54 | alkisg | eirikb: sure, you can skip them; but are you sure the client has enough ram to fit all /home needs? |
| 11:44.52 | alkisg | eirikb: what's the end goal, e.g. to netboot a live cd or something for a quick fix or installation, or for desktop use which would require a lot of ram for /home? |
| 11:44.59 | eirikb | alkisg: Hmm maybe not (24G), but perhaps I could do a script to format and mount the local disk for that purpose? (they have a disk available) |
| 11:45.31 | eirikb | alkisg: End goal is continuous integration tests (which have to run on hardware, so no docker), all are identical, and will be run as Jenkins slaves |
| 11:45.35 | tdn | alkisg, Unknown command "showhold" |
| 11:45.42 | tdn | alkisg, from aptitude showold |
| 11:45.46 | tdn | showhold |
| 11:45.49 | alkisg | tdn: no, aptitude install package |
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| 11:46.35 | tdn | alkisg, https://pastebin.com/AU1YabXB |
| 11:46.36 | alkisg | eirikb: eh, it's not a problem to have a /home then, to hold the script that will run, and to enable autologin (LDM_AUTOLOGIN=True) and autorunning things... |
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| 11:47.21 | alkisg | tdn: so the problem is libnettle4, remove it, it's not available in stretch |
| 11:47.42 | eirikb | /home will be mostly empty, or close to it. I also can't mess with the local DHCP, not even proxy, but luckily they have two network cards, so I can set up the PXE booting only on one of the cards, and then run a full DHCP server |
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| 11:48.01 | tdn | alkisg, https://pastebin.com/2B3TjVn4 |
| 11:48.22 | alkisg | eirikb: wrt dhcp, ltsp supports any case (dhcp, proxydhcp, static ip with ipxe, local kernel...) so it's not an issue |
| 11:48.42 | alkisg | tdn, with aptitude again |
| 11:48.45 | eirikb | Yeah I saw they used dnsmaq, I tried using that with another PXE setup I found, and it also worked fine |
| 11:48.51 | tdn | alkisg, how does such a package get installed? |
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| 11:49.09 | eirikb | dnsmasq* |
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| 11:49.19 | tdn | alkisg, https://pastebin.com/hbiaKHeC |
| 11:49.27 | alkisg | tdn: it might have come from a previous version, if your setup is an upgrade |
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| 11:50.14 | eirikb | alkisg: I need to read up on ltsp, need to find a way to script it into my little VBox test setup. I will probably be back when I'm stuck, thanks for the help :) |
| 11:50.15 | tdn | alkisg, it is from debian 8 to 9 |
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| 11:50.29 | tdn | alkisg, but how to remove it? Did you see https://pastebin.com/hbiaKHeC ? |
| 11:51.57 | eirikb | My plan is to use VBox to build the client image, because then it's possible to test and run it locally, pull it from an asset server |
| 11:52.47 | alkisg | eirikb: I have 10 vbox VMs with only ltsp-client on them, which I'm able to run/maintain normally via vbox, and/or netboot real clients with them |
| 11:53.00 | alkisg | So sure, you could do what you're asking |
| 11:53.23 | alkisg | tdn: aptitude proposes solutions, if you don't accept the first one it will propose another; find one that suits you |
| 11:53.32 | alkisg | I.e. one that does minimal changes |
| 11:54.04 | eirikb | alkisg: Nice. In production there won't be any VBox, server and clients will run on hardware. Server could be anything though, even docker, but not clients |
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| 11:55.42 | tdn | alkisg, yeah tried that. But then it suggest to remove a _lot_ of packages. Including libreoffice and from the looks of it, the entire desktop env., etc. |
| 11:56.14 | tdn | And when I keep pressing N, it keeps suggesting that |
| 11:56.32 | alkisg | That's for the aptitude install chromium command? |
| 11:56.40 | tdn | alkisg, correct |
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| 11:56.45 | tdn | NO |
| 11:56.46 | tdn | Sorry |
| 11:56.56 | tdn | For removing that libnettle4 package |
| 11:57.20 | alkisg | tdn: btw, do you have libnettle6 installed? |
| 11:57.42 | tdn | libnettle6 is already the newest version (3.3-1+b2). |
| 11:58.05 | alkisg | It's strange that anything would depend on libnettle4, as it's not even available in stretch |
| 11:58.19 | alkisg | But what solutions are there for aptitude install chromium? |
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| 12:08.14 | Neel | frankendebian :O |
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| 12:14.05 | tdn | alkisg, same. Either not install it or remove almost everything |
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| 12:32.06 | NetTerminalGene | does debian testing break every now and then? |
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| 12:32.51 | petn-randall | NetTerminalGene: yes, same goes for sid. |
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| 12:36.44 | babilen | (or anything really) |
| 12:37.12 | petn-randall | babilen: I'd argue that the frequency in stable and sid is differently, though ;) |
| 12:37.23 | babilen | Oh, definitely :) |
| 12:37.23 | petn-randall | s/ly// |
| 12:37.44 | babilen | definit? Now see what you've done ... |
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| 12:38.15 | babilen | I'm still not sure if I think that testing breaks more frequently than sid or the other way round |
| 12:38.35 | babilen | Probably depends if you use pure testing or a mix of both |
| 12:39.33 | petn-randall | babilen: I'd argue that sid breaks more often, but game-breaking bugs in testing tend to simmer longer there. |
| 12:42.30 | babilen | testing is quite often in a tricky state due to ongoing transitions and removed packages |
| 12:42.54 | X230t | Is there a debian alternative to fpaste? |
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| 12:55.14 | petn-randall | X230t: What does fpaste do? |
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| 12:55.40 | X230t | Command line paste utility that allows me to save them under a nickname and recall from a different machine |
| 12:56.18 | petn-randall | !pastebinit |
| 12:56.18 | dpkg | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 12:56.31 | petn-randall | X230t: This maybe? ^ |
| 12:56.52 | X230t | Does that allow account based recal? |
| 12:56.55 | X230t | *recall? |
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| 12:59.21 | petn-randall | X230t: I don't think so. You just get an URL you can share. |
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| 12:59.51 | X230t | Yeah, that's no good, I'm trying to get my machine to send the local IP to another machine |
| 13:01.15 | X230t | So far I'm thinking I'll FTP it to a remote machine |
| 13:02.40 | petn-randall | X230t: What about scp? |
| 13:02.50 | X230t | SCP could work |
| 13:02.51 | petn-randall | X230t: What is your setup that you need it? |
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| 13:03.13 | X230t | I have a headless machine on a LAN, I need the local IP of it to connect to it, but have no way to get the local IP |
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| 13:07.52 | X230t | There's no way to get data from that machine to another machine without going via the internet though |
| 13:08.01 | petn-randall | X230t: Can't you just pin the IP address on the DHCP server? |
| 13:08.29 | X230t | I don't have access to said DHCP server |
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| 13:09.08 | petn-randall | Hmm, that's unfortunate. |
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| 13:15.34 | X230t | I need to remotely cache the local IP, I could use no-ip, but afaik they only support public IPs |
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| 13:22.23 | karlpinc | X230t: Have the machine email you the new IP every time the dhcp address changes. |
| 13:22.49 | X230t | No email client, nor do I particularly want that number of emails |
| 13:23.20 | karlpinc | X230t: You could script something on your end to handle the emails. |
| 13:23.47 | X230t | I could, but I don't want that, it's messy |
| 13:23.54 | karlpinc | X230t: Yes. |
| 13:24.03 | X230t | And I'd still have to then set up an email server on the host, which isn't currently running one |
| 13:24.29 | karlpinc | X230t: Has the network adminstrator made some static IPs available on the lan, one of which could be reserved for your use? |
| 13:25.03 | X230t | Nope |
| 13:25.15 | petn-randall | X230t: +1 for talking to the network admin. All the other options just get messy, and fixing all the edge cases will just cost you time. |
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| 13:25.41 | X230t | Network admin is unwilling to do anything to assist |
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| 13:26.30 | karlpinc | X230t: Are you violating policy to say, setup an openvpn connection out from the lan to your server? (I assume your server has a public IP.) |
| 13:26.52 | X230t | I would be, yes |
| 13:26.56 | karlpinc | X230t: VPNs are the way to punch out from behind NAT. |
| 13:27.04 | X230t | I know |
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| 13:27.17 | X230t | I literally just want to noip my local IP or something |
| 13:28.09 | karlpinc | X230t: Well, you're pretty screwed. Some kludge is required. Something stupid like writing/reading from google drive. (No idea if that can be scripted.) |
| 13:28.32 | X230t | If I could figure out the no-ip API I could do it |
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| 13:30.35 | X230t | https://www.noip.com/integrate/request how do I actually send the request from the command line? |
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| 13:34.56 | karlpinc | X230t: With curl is how that sort of stuff is usually done. |
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| 13:35.16 | X230t | That's what I tried, but I get an error |
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| 13:36.49 | X230t | Okay never mind I can't read |
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| 13:40.00 | Emil | Hey |
| 13:40.12 | Emil | is there a way to force apt to output colors through a pipe? |
| 13:40.29 | Emil | apt search keyword | less -R|-r does not show colors |
| 13:42.16 | greycat | use of colors in apt(8) seems to be (still) undocumented, so good luck figuring out how to force them on |
| 13:42.40 | _KaszpiR_ | emil google unbuffer |
| 13:43.00 | greycat | oh, hmm, that might also work as a hack |
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| 13:43.49 | _KaszpiR_ | unbuffer + aha helps in creating pretty html output ;D |
| 13:45.09 | greycat | googling comes up with a stackexchange question and an askubuntu thread... |
| 13:45.17 | X230t | How do I send the output of a command into another command? |
| 13:45.32 | X230t | I've got a command that outputs my local ip, I need to include that in the no-ip update command |
| 13:45.51 | greycat | https://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress |
| 13:46.30 | greycat | configure your dynamic-DNS updater in a hook in the /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ directory. It will receive the new IP address as an environment variable. |
| 13:46.48 | X230t | greycat: That's not what I want |
| 13:47.05 | X230t | All I'm asking is how do I include the output of a command in another command? |
| 13:47.17 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 13:47.23 | alkisg | echo $(date) => includes the output of "date" to "echo" |
| 13:47.34 | alkisg | I.e. with $() |
| 13:47.40 | greycat | I am not going to help people do shit WRONG. |
| 13:48.02 | alkisg | didn't read the chat; withdrawing... :) |
| 13:48.23 | X230t | greycat: I'd rather not run the no-ip client if I can help it |
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| 13:49.47 | greycat | For extra pointing-and-laughing fun, I bet his "command that outputs my local ip" parses /sbin/ifconfig output and breaks on stretch even after installing net-tools. |
| 13:50.03 | greycat | Because it's still god damned 1996. |
| 13:50.10 | X230t | it does parse ifconfig, and works on stretch |
| 13:51.08 | X230t | I'm stupid and don't understand what the page you linked is telling me to do |
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| 13:52.01 | thvle | hello, how can I install nvidia-driver but without display manager, etc etc???? |
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| 13:52.52 | alkisg | It's really funny that one can type this shell command now: touch /tmp/ð; ls /tmp |
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| 13:53.58 | greycat | idly wonders what font packages have to be installed for that to show up as anything other than a rectangle |
| 13:54.18 | X230t | greycat: It's a watermelon emoji |
| 13:54.23 | alkisg | It's the new emoji stuff; it shows a watermelon |
| 13:54.35 | greycat | which is in ...? |
| 13:54.36 | X230t | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375283120762781706/441960725100101632/Screen_Shot_2018-05-05_at_1.53.59_AM.png |
| 13:54.57 | X230t | greycat: Whatever font package you want that supports emoji? |
| 13:55.23 | greycat | tries fonts-symbola which sounds nice and disease-like |
| 13:55.25 | Emil | _KaszpiR_: hmm, not on repos I see? |
| 13:56.06 | _KaszpiR_ | it is, as part of 'expect' package |
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| 13:57.33 | X230t | greycat: Do I create the /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/update-dns myself? |
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| 13:58.26 | X230t | (running raspbian stretch) |
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| 14:01.39 | tdn | I am trying to install chromium, but it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libkf5kcmutils5 : Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.8.0+git20150324.0130+15.04) but it is not going to be installed <- This seems broken? How do I fix this? As far as I know, I do not have any third party sources that might cause this. Info relevant for apt troubleshooting info: https://pastebin.com/41yxZtAV |
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| 14:03.26 | JordiGH | My laptop mutes the microphone when I plug in my earbuds because it expects the earbuds to also have a micrphone. |
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| 14:03.56 | JordiGH | They don't have a microphone. |
| 14:04.09 | JordiGH | well, maybe they do, but it doesn't work. |
| 14:04.20 | JordiGH | How can I tell my laptop to not attempt to use my headphones as a microphone? |
| 14:05.23 | greycat | tdn: what happens if you try "apt install libkf5kcmutils5" ? (Not aptitude.) |
| 14:05.34 | X230t | JordiGH: That depends on the laptop, some of them do it in firmware, and you can't actually control it |
| 14:06.22 | JordiGH | Hm, but lunix seems to know how to keep two different sound configs depending if the headphones are plugged in or not. |
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| 14:06.37 | JordiGH | Do you think there might be a BIOS setting for this? |
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| 14:07.27 | tdn | greycat, there is both apt-get, aptitude and apt now? I have tried with apt-get and aptitude. What difference is apt? |
| 14:07.41 | tdn | greycat, and it says libkf5kcmutils5 is already newest version |
| 14:07.43 | greycat | apt-get and apt should both work basically the same way |
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| 14:07.59 | greycat | it's aptitude that has the different resolving algorithms |
| 14:08.13 | tdn | greycat, ok |
| 14:09.22 | greycat | I do not understand why aptitude would complain about libkf5kcmutils5 if it's already installed. |
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| 14:11.56 | tdn | greycat, please see: https://pastebin.com/41yxZtAV |
| 14:12.07 | tdn | greycat, I believve it complains because it is not the right verision? |
| 14:12.38 | greycat | Did you force-remove anything, or hold anything? |
| 14:12.43 | tdn | greycat, nope |
| 14:12.51 | greycat | Is libkf5quickaddons5 installed? |
| 14:13.09 | tdn | Yes: Installed: 5.28.0-1 |
| 14:13.18 | tdn | It is also in the above paste. |
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| 14:14.57 | greycat | Does "apt-get -f install" do anything? |
| 14:15.12 | tdn | greycat, no |
| 14:15.26 | tdn | Nothing unfinished that needs installing |
| 14:15.35 | tdn | I also did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 14:20.28 | tdn | Would it be safe to uninstall all the stuff it suggests; then install chromium; and then install all the removed stuff again? Or would that fail? Or would I break my system in the process? |
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| 14:22.23 | alkisg | tdn: what's the output of apt-cache rdepends libnette4 or what was its name? |
| 14:23.33 | alkisg | libnettle4 |
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| 14:27.14 | alkisg | tdn: apt-cache rdepends --installed libnettle4 |
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| 14:30.33 | quiliro | hello debianers...just read the debian 9 dedication to ian murdoch |
| 14:30.35 | quiliro | nice |
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| 15:03.20 | jhutchins | Odd, why would linux-headers update separately from the kernel itself? |
| 15:05.13 | AimHere | You might have cause to compile for a Linux kernel you're not currently running |
| 15:05.19 | AimHere | Is my guess |
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| 15:08.03 | jhutchins | AimHere: So you think they're going to randomly push headers for a kernel I'm not running on the chance that I might want to compile something I'm not using? Not very plausible. |
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| 15:08.23 | jhutchins | I thinking either the headers were delayed or there was an error (which shouldn't happen). |
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| 15:10.48 | AquaticWeasel | Is there an updated set of instructions for installing bumblebee? |
| 15:11.06 | AquaticWeasel | I followed the wiki's guide and my laptop hung at boot |
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| 15:11.32 | AimHere | jhutchins, your previous IRC missive didn't explain exactly what the issue was |
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| 16:32.15 | zoeurk | hello, I have a problem with fstables I do that:https://paste.debian.net/1023313/ but I continu to have an access to internet. |
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| 16:35.19 | ChrisH | How do I enable a remote ssh access during installation. I know there is auch an option 'somehwere' and I cannot find it now. I need to support an installation from remote. |
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| 16:39.32 | ChrisH | as allways, after typing my question here, I found: https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2015/10/12/how-to-install-debian-remotely/ search for network-console |
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| 16:41.50 | jelly | ChrisH: it's also documented in the install guide I think |
| 16:41.58 | jelly | !i-g |
| 16:41.59 | dpkg | methinks stretch installation guide is The Installation Guide for Debian 9 "Stretch" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/installmanual . See also <errata> and <stretch release notes>. |
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| 16:45.50 | ChrisH | jelly: looks like we do it via phone :) |
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| 17:12.21 | greycat | has seen a few messages on debian-user today with 2010 dates, and wonders if those were held in a moderation queue for 8 years, or if it's some weird coincidence |
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| 17:31.31 | rendar | i'm trying to launch apt update && apt upgrade from crontab |
| 17:31.42 | rendar | i set PATH and everything and commands start |
| 17:31.48 | rendar | but this is the output i get: https://nopaste.xyz/?5f24fcd8f292a60d#oMwDhDwRNDmVk7GOUzi2NhEUsUjipTMBuvzaoVRYvk0= |
| 17:31.53 | rendar | any help to fix this? |
| 17:31.53 | greycat | Why are you not simply using unattended-upgrades? |
| 17:32.11 | rendar | greycat: what's that? |
| 17:32.19 | greycat | ,info unattended-upgrades |
| 17:32.20 | judd | Package unattended-upgrades (admin, optional) in stretch/amd64: automatic installation of security upgrades. Version: 0.93.1+nmu1; Size: 60.2k; Installed: 246k |
| 17:32.45 | rendar | seems an interesting tool, but isn't that only for security upgrades? |
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| 17:34.06 | bites | by default, yes. but you can configure it as you like. |
| 17:34.34 | rendar | bites: seems the tool i need, i have to install it, first |
| 17:35.40 | bites | on stretch the config still has entries that reference jessie. you will have to fix those manually before activating. |
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| 17:37.16 | rendar | it will also do an apt update? |
| 17:37.46 | bites | it wouldn't work otherwise. |
| 17:38.07 | greycat | The jessie example lines are just comments. If you uncomment them, then yes, you would also want to change jessie to stretch or whatever. |
| 17:38.18 | rendar | ok.. |
| 17:38.24 | rendar | what is this conf file i have to edit? |
| 17:38.47 | greycat | it tells you in "man unattended-upgrade" |
| 17:38.59 | greycat | (no 's' on the man page, but there is an 's' on the config file...) |
| 17:39.02 | annadane | it's also on the wiki |
| 17:39.19 | annadane | https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades |
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| 17:40.07 | bites | hehe /usr/bin/unattended-upgrades -> unattended-upgrade but the man page they didn't bother |
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| 17:41.36 | rendar | uhm i don't think i have to mnually edit the file, becuase inside the file i get this line "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename},label=Debian"; |
| 17:41.45 | rendar | there is no jessie string anywhere |
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| 17:42.07 | bites | then you are not on stretch but on testing or unstable. |
| 17:42.29 | rendar | well, in my desktop i'm on testing, on the raspbrry i'm in stretch stable |
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| 17:44.05 | rendar | with testing buster i can't use it? |
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| 17:44.28 | noodlepie | Penguins can see through windows! |
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| 17:45.07 | greycat | With testing or unstable, you'd be a fool to use it. |
| 17:45.19 | greycat | Of course, 90% of the people who use them ARE fools, so. |
| 17:45.41 | rendar | greycat: well, i needed gcc 7.x to work, with stable i had packages from 1998 |
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| 17:46.12 | greycat | *plonk* |
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| 17:47.01 | rendar | ok, i can't use it in testing |
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| 17:47.15 | rendar | how i can run apt update && upgrade correctly from crontab then? |
| 17:47.28 | annadane | i mean, the point behind stable is that it allows you to be lax with system administration |
| 17:47.37 | annadane | if you're running testing/sid you want to look at what you're doing |
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| 17:49.44 | rendar | annadane: i had to have testing because i needed newer packages |
| 17:49.58 | rendar | now that i'm on testing i want also add an automatic apt update+upgrade |
| 17:50.03 | nkuttler | sid > testing, just saying. at least you get timely security upgrades |
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| 17:50.11 | rendar | that's not a trascendental request |
| 17:50.13 | nkuttler | not that any of those is supported here.. |
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| 17:50.43 | rendar | nkuttler: someone here years ago recomennded me to use testing instead of sid for my purposes |
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| 17:51.02 | annadane | i know the current DPL prefers sid over testing |
| 17:51.06 | annadane | anyway, off topic, really |
| 17:51.17 | rendar | ok, how i can have this fixed, then? |
| 17:51.30 | nkuttler | !debian-next |
| 17:51.30 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:51.49 | rendar | that channel is dead |
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| 17:53.26 | rendar | look, i just need to run apt update && upgrade without those being connected to the console, that is a legit question even for stables debians :( |
| 17:54.15 | rendar | it's unbeliveable that whenever i come here, nobody helps me, even for the smallest things, because i'm using testing |
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| 17:54.52 | petn-randall | rendar: It's not dead, it has over 300 users there. |
| 17:55.08 | rendar | petn-randall: i had to wait like 5 hrs for a reply, days ago |
| 17:55.12 | nkuttler | the answer is "just don't" anyway |
| 17:55.19 | rendar | nkuttler: why not? |
| 17:55.25 | annadane | for what it's worth i don't disagree with you, but it's just nice not to have the channel cluttered if 6 people come in at once with debian stable questions |
| 17:56.03 | annadane | anyway, i don't know the answer to your question or i would answer you |
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| 17:56.56 | petn-randall | rendar: And as far as I can see your question got answered. |
| 17:57.18 | annadane | debian as a whole could stand to be a little more accepting of users who want to run the dev branches |
| 17:57.25 | rendar | annadane: i didn't see this channel cluttered in decades |
| 17:57.32 | annadane | that's fair |
| 17:57.37 | nkuttler | we should also be more accepting of "based on debian" distros! |
| 17:57.53 | greycat | and people who want us to read the man page at them! |
| 17:58.27 | rendar | greycat: i don't want, obviously! your sarcasm is really not needed here :) |
| 17:59.05 | rendar | i just found debian too much "close" regards testing and other debian based stuff |
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| 17:59.22 | annadane | i think if someone wants to run testing/sid it's just needed to inform them of the risks and then if they still want to do it, let them |
| 17:59.23 | nkuttler | rendar: it's not. you're just off-topic |
| 17:59.28 | jelly | FIVE HOURS?!?! |
| 17:59.39 | jelly | oh, requested no sarcasm |
| 17:59.55 | jelly | that's going to happen |
| 18:00.54 | rendar | nkuttler: if you say so, i think annadane agrees with me, i had several little problems with debian and NOONE helped me here, because i use testing, i think this is silly |
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| 18:01.39 | Logg | there is a need for splitting support by stable/testing. categorization is not silly. |
| 18:01.52 | jelly | rendar: users of testing are (well, should be) used to investigating and fixing little problems on their own |
| 18:02.16 | rendar | jelly: which i usually do, but for instance i have a big problem with my graphic card |
| 18:02.27 | rendar | i can't investigate graphic drivers! |
| 18:02.28 | jelly | and personally I really don't want someone else reading advice appropriate for testing without context and thinking it applies to debian in general |
| 18:02.37 | rendar | and i'm sure that this problem is present also in stable |
| 18:02.40 | rendar | but noone helped me |
| 18:02.53 | bites | unattended-upgrades is a better idea than running apt upgrade in cron. if something goes wrong you will have to search its logs. you can also make it send you mails. |
| 18:03.00 | nkuttler | rendar: there's also #debian-offtopic if you need to vent |
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| 18:03.13 | annadane | ultimately there's a fine line at work here and i don't think anyone is 100% correct, we can't have #debian flooded with off-topic (this includes testing/sid) questions but at the same time if you alienate that part of the community too much they'll get turned off and won't test your new packages |
| 18:03.13 | rendar | i don't need to vent.. |
| 18:03.26 | alkisg | Maybe a compromise could be, "hi guys, this is my question, I'm using testing, can someone come over at #debian-next and help me?" |
| 18:03.30 | annadane | as far as i'm aware people do run unattended-upgrades comfortable with testing |
| 18:03.37 | annadane | comfortably* |
| 18:03.41 | jelly | rendar: there are other support venues, eg. debian-users mailing list |
| 18:03.53 | rendar | ok |
| 18:03.54 | nkuttler | yes, and other people see their system break while performing unattended upgrades |
| 18:04.20 | jelly | serves them right for thinking unattended-upgrades are a good and well tested idea |
| 18:04.29 | annadane | yeah, unfortunately not everyone watches irc all the time; the mailing list is another avenue to try |
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| 18:04.38 | annadane | well, and i kind of agree with jelly |
| 18:04.48 | annadane | you should watch what you're doing during updates |
| 18:04.52 | annadane | even on stable, heck |
| 18:04.54 | jelly | they came from canonical after all |
| 18:04.56 | jelly | hides |
| 18:05.00 | rendar | jelly: look at 10 minutes ago: i have just asked how to run properly apt get update && upgrade, and noone tried to help me when i revealed i'm on testing, i can ask to mailing list for this, but i think just it's exagerate and silly, tht's all |
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| 18:05.23 | tw | !testing |
| 18:05.23 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 18:05.30 | rendar | ok |
| 18:06.26 | jelly | rendar: ok, it's somewhat silly. I still won't help you with it because if you have problems with basic tools you probably shouldn't be running testing in the first place, and now we're discussing in circles |
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| 18:07.03 | annadane | i think this is a problem of culture that the debian project will never truly get rid of |
| 18:07.06 | jelly | sometimes, if I'm less tired, I'll provide a clueful hint here anyway usually followed with !debian-next |
| 18:07.11 | nkuttler | annadane: it's a feature |
| 18:07.14 | petn-randall | unattended-upgrades is completely fine on stable, it's insane to use on testing. |
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| 18:07.26 | jelly | "completely fine" bwahaha |
| 18:07.39 | petn-randall | works for me⢠|
| 18:07.41 | annadane | nkuttler, i agree with that, in general |
| 18:07.42 | nkuttler | on "stable"? what when there's a new relase? |
| 18:07.47 | rendar | petn-randall: i got that |
| 18:07.52 | jelly | offers petn-randall a kernel package upgrade keeping same ABI |
| 18:08.28 | rendar | i'd use stable, but there are tool old packages! i can't compile my C++ code with a too old gcc |
| 18:08.29 | jelly | nkuttler: a default config of a "stable" involves not having "stable" in sources.list, so it's fine |
| 18:08.40 | rendar | too* |
| 18:08.47 | annadane | !xy problem |
| 18:08.48 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 18:08.57 | annadane | first validate whether you actually can't do what you want on stable |
| 18:09.05 | nkuttler | rendar: can we move on? it seems obvious you're not going to get more help here |
| 18:09.07 | jelly | rendar: which C++ features are you missing with g++ 6.3? |
| 18:09.10 | rendar | annadane: i needed newer gcc! |
| 18:09.19 | Logg | rendar, try using debian stable, and a development virtual machine which may use that newer gcc |
| 18:09.19 | rendar | i needed to test something in gcc 7.x |
| 18:09.29 | jelly | test what? |
| 18:09.32 | annadane | (i'm a huge hypocrite because i am currently running sid, full disclosure) |
| 18:09.53 | rendar | annadane: ok, that's what i reply to you then |
| 18:10.05 | greycat | I have used testing or unstable on my desktop machines in the past, but am not currently doing so. |
| 18:11.07 | jelly | annadane: and that's just fine if you're not asking questions about it here |
| 18:11.30 | annadane | i think it just comes down to doing apt upgrades via cron in testing is a bad idea |
| 18:11.40 | greycat | Agreed. |
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| 18:14.36 | Logg | I'm getting new graphics libraries through backports. Hopefully a fix for the do_IRQ spam. |
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| 18:17.14 | OS-37761 | hi |
| 18:17.28 | Logg | Hi OS-37761 |
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| 18:18.07 | OS-37761 | i never new..this chat assistant. |
| 18:18.13 | OS-37761 | *knew |
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| 18:18.44 | Logg | one of the oldest. If you have a question about debian, please ask it. |
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| 18:50.41 | AquaticWeasel | hey does anyone here have a Optimus Nvidia laptop |
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| 18:52.09 | annadane | AquaticWeasel, do you have a question about it? best to be more specific |
| 18:52.42 | greycat | AquaticWeasel was reporting a bumblebee failure a few hours ago. |
| 18:52.52 | greycat | 11:11 AquaticWeasel> I followed the wiki's guide and my laptop hung at boot |
| 18:52.53 | AquaticWeasel | yeah I need a lot of help. I have a Nvidia 1050 TI and intel card. I followed Debian wiki to install bumblebee, but upon booting it says "starting simple display manager" and everything froze |
| 18:52.55 | greycat | 11:15 AquaticWeasel> I'm using a Nvidia 1050 ti on my laptop |
| 18:53.11 | AquaticWeasel | I'm currently on another laptop because it's unbootable |
| 18:53.27 | AquaticWeasel | I'm borrowing this one |
| 18:53.31 | Tenkawa | I'd like to help but all I have is radeon now |
| 18:53.33 | Tenkawa | AquaticWeasel: ouch.. unbootable completely? |
| 18:53.40 | AquaticWeasel | yeah completely |
| 18:53.41 | AquaticWeasel | it just hangs |
| 18:53.52 | AquaticWeasel | I tried blacklisting nouveau but I think debian stable doesn't require it |
| 18:53.53 | Tenkawa | any messages on console? |
| 18:53.55 | AquaticWeasel | but I did it anyways |
| 18:54.11 | AquaticWeasel | I tried ctrl + alt but it won't even move to console |
| 18:54.15 | Tenkawa | OH |
| 18:54.18 | Tenkawa | wait |
| 18:54.29 | Tenkawa | just goes black right? |
| 18:54.31 | AquaticWeasel | yeah |
| 18:54.41 | Tenkawa | ok... boot to the opening menu |
| 18:54.58 | greycat | meaning GRUB? |
| 18:55.02 | Tenkawa | edit the boot entry with e and add nomodeset |
| 18:55.06 | AquaticWeasel | yeah I can get to grub |
| 18:55.10 | Tenkawa | for a test |
| 18:55.31 | AquaticWeasel | where should I put the nomodeset after linux? |
| 18:55.47 | Tenkawa | anywhere on the kernel line |
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| 18:57.01 | Tenkawa | that'll probably get the machine video to display |
| 18:57.16 | Tenkawa | but your driver will probably be very unhappy |
| 18:57.38 | AquaticWeasel | also another side question, I have a Atheros wireless card on this laptop. Only Debian Live DVD can work with it. If I use main debian full dvd, it won't utilize the drivers for it |
| 18:57.55 | AquaticWeasel | that's kinda weird since they are very similar |
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| 18:57.57 | greycat | You probably need to install firmware for it. |
| 18:58.02 | AquaticWeasel | ah ok |
| 18:58.08 | Tenkawa | AquaticWeasel: thats missing a firmware pkg |
| 18:58.18 | Tenkawa | what greycat said |
| 18:58.49 | Tenkawa | wow its getting hot outside |
| 18:59.02 | AquaticWeasel | it's warm here too, what area are you in |
| 18:59.04 | Tenkawa | already 83F out this early in year |
| 18:59.06 | greycat | I like to check "dmesg | grep -i firmware" for errors, because those errors usually tell you the exact filename that it wants, from which you can search for the appropriate package. |
| 18:59.10 | Tenkawa | eastern us |
| 18:59.17 | AquaticWeasel | I'm in west |
| 18:59.22 | AquaticWeasel | thanks |
| 18:59.50 | Tenkawa | did that get the box booted up? |
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| 19:02.11 | AquaticWeasel | not yet, I will let you know though, I made the mistake of reinstalling Debian on it and will reinstall bumblebee and try that again |
| 19:02.40 | AquaticWeasel | I probably came on a bad time earlier |
| 19:02.58 | Tenkawa | good luck though |
| 19:03.16 | AquaticWeasel | also Debian is the only linux distribution that works on my gaming laptop |
| 19:03.34 | AquaticWeasel | every newer version that has kernel 4+ has a starting boot hold up |
| 19:03.58 | AquaticWeasel | and cpu lock up on #4/#6/#2 and it's all unusable. I guess Deb Stable's older kernel doesn't have that issue |
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| 19:16.39 | Logg | debian stable ships with 4.9 though |
| 19:17.00 | AquaticWeasel | oh shoot you are right I honestly don't know |
| 19:17.27 | annadane | grep -i firmware or do what any sane person should do and alias grep to grep -i |
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| 19:17.44 | AquaticWeasel | got it |
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| 19:18.26 | AquaticWeasel | "starting hold until boot process finishes up" "Hard lock on Cpu #6" is what I do remember |
| 19:18.46 | anonyan | how to install prorpietary legacy drivers (need 94xx for GeForce4 Ti) on debian teating? |
| 19:19.09 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 19:19.09 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 19:20.02 | annadane | it'd be the same for stable most likely except the package may not be in testing |
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| 19:20.11 | annadane | i just don't know how one would find the correct package |
| 19:20.36 | annadane | but yeah #debian-next on oftc is indeed the correct channel to ask in |
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| 19:49.20 | jordila | dear #debian ers , i'm puzzled ... when maximum of 10 databases of modest websites, low traffic and content volume (Wordpress , Drupal ... ) are reported by phpMyAdmin to be lower than (aggregated) several hundreds of MB ... how come that 5.4 GiB at /var/lib/mysql folder are being reported on the system ?! |
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| 19:52.10 | tuxmartin | Hi, I have server (OVH) with Debian 8.10 and kernel "3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64". This kernel has grsecurity. I need to show all processes in "ps" output as normal user. Grsecurite disable this. How can I turn off this feature? |
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| 19:55.42 | annadane | hrm... there's no simple off switch for grsec? |
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| 19:55.49 | annadane | i don't know, just thinking out loud |
| 19:56.42 | hassoon | anyone knows how i can increase/crease screen brightness in stretch? i cannot use xbacklight in stretch anymore after upgrading from jessie |
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| 19:56.51 | greycat | It might be SELinux instead of grsec. |
| 19:57.10 | greycat | if it's selinux then this google result MIGHT help : https://danwalsh.livejournal.com/51435.html |
| 19:57.25 | annadane | hassoon, there's the redshift package (and redshift-gtk if you want a GUI) |
| 19:57.41 | annadane | (though it's not much of a GUI, it must be said) |
| 19:57.47 | hassoon | annadane: nah thanks, i need a command-line way of doing it |
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| 20:03.16 | Logg | hassoon, I have this line in my .bash_aliases file: alias nighttime='redshift -b 0.5 -l 36.17:-86.78 -r -t 4000K:4000K' |
| 20:03.23 | Logg | the -b parameter sets brightness |
| 20:03.45 | hassoon | Logg: thank you i'll install redshift and try it |
| 20:03.47 | ScottE | tuxmartin: is /proc mounted with hidepid enabled? If so, remount it without. I have no clue if that's how grsecurity does it, but that's one way it can be done |
| 20:04.34 | Logg | hassoon, it should be noted that it does not control the hardware backlight like xbacklight does. it's just a filter |
| 20:04.56 | hassoon | Logg: what did stretch do to xbacklight :/ |
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| 20:05.06 | Logg | afaik, it still works. |
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| 20:09.45 | tuxmartin | I got it! "zcat /proc/config.gz | grep GRKERNSEC_PROC_GID" And user in group defined in GRKERNSEC_PROC_GID can see all processes. |
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| 20:14.35 | annadane | !win tuxmartin |
| 20:14.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, tuxmartin! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 20:17.23 | tuxmartin | annadane: Why? It can be useful for someone else. |
| 20:17.23 | tuxmartin | .. |
| 20:19.43 | alkisg | tuxmartin: there's also zgrep instead of zcat | grep... |
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| 21:00.46 | dirac1 | Hello guys, I have proble configuring the ssh daemon. I'm modifying the configuration file (sshd_config). However, after restarting the service I can still connect with one blocked user. |
| 21:01.19 | Tenkawa | what changes did you make? |
| 21:01.32 | Tenkawa | need more info on steps taken |
| 21:01.44 | dirac1 | Let me show you the config file |
| 21:02.47 | AquaticWeasel | Hey tenkawa |
| 21:02.53 | Tenkawa | greetings again |
| 21:02.57 | Tenkawa | any luck? |
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| 21:03.10 | AquaticWeasel | After doing nomodeset it brings me to. Command line login where it's frozen |
| 21:03.30 | Tenkawa | interesting.... |
| 21:03.46 | Tenkawa | so it was a two fold problem |
| 21:03.49 | AquaticWeasel | Debian gnu 9 tty1 login: but I can't type or login |
| 21:04.26 | Tenkawa | wired kb? |
| 21:04.44 | Tenkawa | or laptp[ |
| 21:04.49 | Tenkawa | er laptop |
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| 21:05.13 | dirac1 | Tenkawa, nvm found my issue. lol |
| 21:05.13 | AquaticWeasel | Hey tenkawa Im in console in recovery mode |
| 21:05.23 | Tenkawa | theres some more goofyness with the hardware that can happen here |
| 21:05.30 | Tenkawa | dirac1: cool :) |
| 21:05.45 | AquaticWeasel | Im root now since Im able to login via recovery mode |
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| 21:06.39 | Tenkawa | AquaticWeasel: hey go back through /var/log/messages and see if you see any errors about tty1 |
| 21:06.51 | Tenkawa | from today |
| 21:07.10 | greycat | AquaticWeasel: hmm. Sounds like sddm or whatever *dm started, but because of nomodeset, it didn't actually erase the screen this time. So you see the residual console login prompt even though there's a frozen X session on it. |
| 21:07.25 | greycat | But that's just a guess. |
| 21:07.35 | Tenkawa | greycat: yeah |
| 21:07.43 | Tenkawa | thats what I think too |
| 21:08.04 | Tenkawa | but I want to see if the journalctl complained |
| 21:09.02 | Tenkawa | he might have to pass the other parameter too (looking up now) |
| 21:09.55 | AquaticWeasel | Weird |
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| 21:10.12 | AquaticWeasel | So like it cuts off after network manager is starting |
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| 21:10.33 | AquaticWeasel | -debian network manager Re |
| 21:11.05 | AquaticWeasel | My intel display driver got loaded and definitely nvidia got skipped |
| 21:11.14 | Tenkawa | ahhhh |
| 21:11.23 | Tenkawa | so 2 cards |
| 21:11.31 | Tenkawa | you need to blacklist it |
| 21:11.33 | greycat | It's an optimus thingy. |
| 21:11.39 | AquaticWeasel | Oh shoot |
| 21:11.49 | greycat | He attempted to install the bumblebee stuff following the wiki, or said he did. |
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| 21:11.57 | AquaticWeasel | Yeah |
| 21:12.09 | AquaticWeasel | The wiki didnt have anything about blacklisting |
| 21:12.13 | Tenkawa | oh those things are so ugggh |
| 21:12.31 | Tenkawa | for trying to setup |
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| 21:12.36 | AquaticWeasel | After the install the console gave me a warning that nouveau is installed. Best way to fix it is to reboot |
| 21:13.12 | AquaticWeasel | But I think I have to blacklist nouveau? |
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| 21:14.57 | Tenkawa | did you try adding the explicit entries in xorg.conf? |
| 21:15.09 | Tenkawa | listed here? |
| 21:15.11 | Tenkawa | https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 21:15.20 | Tenkawa | to point things around |
| 21:16.58 | AquaticWeasel | Oh I see |
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| 21:17.34 | AquaticWeasel | Yo tenkawa I see what's up |
| 21:17.52 | AquaticWeasel | You are right. In x.org it shows kernel driver is nouveau |
| 21:17.55 | Tenkawa | yeah that page looks like there 2 key packages and some config tuning |
| 21:18.13 | Tenkawa | so go give that a try and see if that helps |
| 21:18.24 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
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| 21:19.32 | Tenkawa | dual gpu powered systems are so hard to work with |
| 21:20.04 | Tenkawa | especially 2 of diff types |
| 21:20.09 | Tenkawa | and I |
| 21:20.20 | Tenkawa | 've been doing it a long time |
| 21:21.29 | AquaticWeasel | If I known it was this bad. I would have just gotten some cheap intel display laptop or an amd lol |
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| 21:22.26 | Tenkawa | nah think of it as a learning process |
| 21:23.40 | AquaticWeasel | Good point |
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| 21:23.49 | Tenkawa | heehee |
| 21:24.12 | Tenkawa | thats the way I enjoy learning this |
| 21:24.31 | Tenkawa | but I'm a tinkerer anyway |
| 21:24.45 | AquaticWeasel | Hey tenkawa is it possible to start network in recovery mode |
| 21:24.52 | AquaticWeasel | :) |
| 21:24.57 | Tenkawa | about to probably get into big.LITTLE |
| 21:24.58 | Tenkawa | yes |
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| 21:25.26 | Tenkawa | /etc/init.d/networking start (theoreticly) |
| 21:25.35 | Tenkawa | that was old way) |
| 21:25.40 | Tenkawa | then.. |
| 21:25.56 | Tenkawa | check /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 21:26.15 | Tenkawa | any errors? |
| 21:27.17 | Tenkawa | (theres several ways to start the network and I'm not sure which is the default setup now. I change mine a lot ) |
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| 21:29.04 | AquaticWeasel | Apparently my wireless chipset won't start |
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| 21:29.17 | Tenkawa | AquaticWeasel: error? |
| 21:29.34 | AquaticWeasel | Also I did nomodeset |
| 21:29.34 | Tenkawa | its just prob a dependency I'm missing |
| 21:29.45 | AquaticWeasel | And the screen is black |
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| 21:29.58 | AquaticWeasel | Nothing on display |
| 21:30.01 | Tenkawa | make sure you get the line right |
| 21:30.11 | Tenkawa | it has to be on the line with quiet |
| 21:30.19 | AquaticWeasel | Ah ok |
| 21:30.40 | AquaticWeasel | Hey is this normal |
| 21:30.55 | AquaticWeasel | Im booting up to a ttyl screen command line |
| 21:31.15 | AquaticWeasel | I put it after quiet |
| 21:31.34 | Tenkawa | yes |
| 21:31.38 | AquaticWeasel | Oh my network is working |
| 21:31.47 | Tenkawa | tty1 is the console |
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| 21:31.55 | Tenkawa | primary console 1 |
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| 21:35.56 | istevenmon | what is the recommended filesystem by debian installer nowadays? |
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| 21:37.03 | Tenkawa | istevenmon: relative question really |
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| 21:38.58 | Tenkawa | do you need speed, resilience, reliability, or a mix? |
| 21:39.08 | istevenmon | is the recommendation for a general purpose system ext4? |
| 21:39.23 | Tenkawa | i believe so yes... |
| 21:39.29 | istevenmon | Tenkawa: mix |
| 21:39.45 | Tenkawa | solid state drives might have some recommended tuning |
| 21:40.03 | Tenkawa | there might some pages at wiki.debian.org |
| 21:40.13 | Tenkawa | search for ssd or solid state drove |
| 21:40.18 | Tenkawa | er drive |
| 21:40.32 | Tenkawa | if you are planning on using one |
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| 21:40.59 | Tenkawa | AquaticWeasel: hows it going? |
| 21:41.31 | istevenmon | Tenkawa: what if i want to use a mix of ssd and hdd? is there a filesystem i could use that would do automatic tiering? |
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| 21:42.05 | AquaticWeasel | Im installing all system updates and purging nvidia. Ill try to reinstall tenkawa |
| 21:42.13 | Tenkawa | heh that ones a little out of what I've done with them |
| 21:42.22 | Tenkawa | I stopped using platter drives asap |
| 21:42.24 | AquaticWeasel | Ill see what happens if I edit the x.org conf before i restart |
| 21:42.35 | Tenkawa | AquaticWeasel: good luck. |
| 21:42.51 | AquaticWeasel | Ill let you know of any errors |
| 21:42.53 | Tenkawa | gotta run time to head to the house... cheers all |
| 21:43.02 | AquaticWeasel | Or not seeya |
| 21:43.06 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 21:43.12 | AquaticWeasel | Seeya soon |
| 21:43.14 | Tenkawa | I'll be back |
| 21:43.18 | Tenkawa | sometime |
| 21:43.20 | Tenkawa | haahaaahaaa |
| 21:43.25 | AquaticWeasel | Lol |
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| 21:51.53 | karlpinc | istevenmon: I'd suspect the "tiering" would be a mdadm or lvm sort of thing, not a filesystem sort of thing. |
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| 21:53.56 | karlpinc | istevenmon: dmsetup cache .... |
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| 22:14.05 | wgas | Hi running stretch i broke something, apt-get update is giving theses errors now https://paste.debian.net/1023354 any help appreciated thanks |
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| 22:15.33 | wgas | tried to install virtualbox as per their sites instructions and wouldnt import keys now this |
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| 22:20.22 | iTeV | well, APT tells you exactly what is wrong tbqh... |
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| 22:22.54 | wgas | sorry bit of a newbie, how do i fix this or where do i look? |
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| 22:35.30 | wgas | ok found permissions set to user = root, should that be changed to "_apt"? |
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| 22:46.55 | zeffy | hi guys |
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| 22:47.52 | zeffy | wags here ?\ |
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| 22:50.58 | wgas | me? |
| 22:51.03 | zeffy | yes |
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| 22:51.20 | zeffy | did you succed to install virtualbox? |
| 22:51.34 | zeffy | i also try to mount images with it and i cant :( |
| 22:51.48 | wgas | no ran into trouble with keys |
| 22:51.55 | zeffy | ssh keys ? |
| 22:52.20 | wgas | trusted.gpg |
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| 22:53.51 | zeffy | whats the problem? |
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| 22:54.33 | wgas | its ignoring the keys on update https://paste.debian.net/1023354 |
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| 22:55.57 | zeffy | apt-key list |
| 22:55.59 | zeffy | is working ? |
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| 22:56.52 | wgas | yes got a list ok |
| 22:57.38 | zeffy | Copy and save /etc/apt/trusted.gpg under another name |
| 22:57.48 | zeffy | after that use rm /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
| 22:57.56 | zeffy | and apt-get update |
| 22:58.12 | wgas | ok thanks will try |
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| 23:01.08 | wgas | ok no errors now thanks |
| 23:01.19 | zeffy | no problem |
| 23:01.31 | zeffy | also i have a problem with virtualbox :( |
| 23:01.46 | zeffy | i try to mount an image with it. and i cant.. |
| 23:01.49 | zeffy | says verr not suported |
| 23:02.02 | zeffy | but the same image im able to mount with qemu |
| 23:02.06 | zeffy | do you have any ideea ? |
| 23:02.49 | wgas | no sorry havent got it working on this PC yet going through new installs |
| 23:03.17 | zeffy | wich linux did you installed ? debian ? |
| 23:03.32 | wgas | yes stretch |
| 23:03.49 | zeffy | try a google : things to do after debian install |
| 23:04.55 | wgas | yes i will thanks |
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