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| 00:10.49 | WiLK | phogg, can you help me with it? |
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| 00:23.54 | mischief | Exagone313: yes but i was saying you could use a http proxy for apt to cache packages. |
| 00:24.34 | Exagone313 | yeah I understood after |
| 00:25.07 | Exagone313 | but they would be duplicated |
| 00:25.53 | mischief | simply disable the apt cache? |
| 00:28.38 | themill | apt doesn't keep the .deb in the cache after the package is installed |
| 00:28.38 | apt | themill: that's too long |
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| 00:30.29 | mutante | it doesn't? then how come "apt-get clean" always gets me some free disk space |
| 00:30.42 | mutante | apt vs. apt-get you say? |
| 00:30.52 | themill | I meant "apt" |
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| 00:54.48 | pard68- | Speaking of apt, accidentally apt install gnome3 yesterday. Still working on getting gnome back off. |
| 00:55.21 | somiaj | pard68-: what package did you install, you should have been able to just remove the package you installed followed by an autoremove |
| 00:55.33 | somiaj | (some things may stay around, but only if parts of your other system suggest that package) |
| 00:56.14 | somiaj | pard68-: the other option is check the apt logs and use that to create a list of packages to remove |
| 00:58.12 | pard68- | Working on it now. I did the uninstall and autoremove yeseterday, but it left a huge number of random stuff behind. |
| 00:58.51 | phogg | WiLK: wireless cards require non-free firmware that is probably not installed by default. You need find out what firmware you need, find out what package that firmware is in and then install the package. |
| 00:59.37 | somiaj | pard68-: most likely due to packages you have on your system that 'suggest' the package it left. It should be fine. |
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| 01:00.52 | pard68- | @somiaj yeah. gnome3 installs a bunch of other programs that go along with the gnome suite. So autoremove won't detect them, like nautilus for example. It was a dumb mistake Didn't read the "Are you sure y/n" because I was in a rush. |
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| 01:02.19 | somiaj | pard68-: autoremove will detect them, that isn't the issue. The issue is you had other packages on your system that suggest the package, so autoremove won't remove it. |
| 01:02.34 | somiaj | pard68-: but there is very little harm (except some used disk space) that they are on your system. |
| 01:02.50 | somiaj | though yea, if you want you can remove them using the log file, (: |
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| 01:03.11 | pard68- | Yeah I'm not too concerned. Just annoyed with myself. |
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| 01:09.20 | apus | hi, i'm new to networking configuration in debian. 1 physical interface eth0. multiple macvlan virtual interfaces. all via dhcp. how can i create the macvlan interfaces before the dhclient program is called for the "iface eth0 inet dhcp" line ? |
| 01:11.57 | ryouma | is there a place where i can find out the changes that have been made to the upgrade manual since stretch was released? i read it then and want to know if it has changed. |
| 01:12.24 | ryouma | like is this udner git? https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html |
| 01:14.44 | somiaj | ryouma: I belive you can download the source for the release-notes, but you may have to diff them yourself to get the changes. |
| 01:15.06 | somiaj | apus: How are you use to configuring your network. Any linux tool you like to use? |
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| 01:19.40 | ryouma | that's good enough for me if i can find that |
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| 01:20.45 | apus | somiaj: thank you, i'll take a look at the scripts ! |
| 01:21.17 | somiaj | apus: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#A.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces |
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| 01:22.00 | somiaj | ryouma: https://www.debian.org/doc/ddp -- looks like the have svn info to access the debian docs there |
| 01:22.16 | somiaj | ryouma: https://www.debian.org/doc/cvs |
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| 01:46.37 | zerothis | I have an app that slows calculations to match certain aspects of actual time. I want to fake my system timing to force it to run faster. Is this possible? |
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| 01:49.22 | ryouma | somiaj: thanks. can't really figure it out to get the total diff or the original version when stretch released. i can get the log. |
| 01:50.08 | somiaj | ryouma: yea I'm unsure on this, I dno't really know svn, and it appears they haven't moved the docs to git. |
| 01:50.28 | somiaj | zerothis: there are ways to fake time for an app, but you really shouldn't fake the time on your system, to much depends on it. |
| 01:50.39 | somiaj | zerothis: look at the 'faketime' package |
| 01:50.42 | ryouma | there is an svn-git but you ahve to get permission or so |
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| 01:52.28 | avis | linux |
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| 01:54.46 | rastaval | how do I install cpan on debian 8? |
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| 01:56.40 | somiaj | rastaval: do you mean how do you install software from cpan (not cpan itself)? And have you looked to see if the perl module you want isn't already packaged in debian. |
| 01:57.29 | rastaval | meaning on debian 8 perl-cpan is included in the package? |
| 01:58.19 | rastaval | ohh i think i figure it out |
| 01:58.30 | rastaval | thank you somiaj |
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| 02:10.16 | phinxy | Is there a way to spin down, detach or "eject" a external usb device on stretch? |
| 02:11.01 | phinxy | "sudo umount /mnt" only unmounts. I can still feel the disk spinning quite a lot. |
| 02:12.46 | ryouma | phinxy: hdparm -B 1 ${hdslimsbiglike:?} |
| 02:14.22 | ryouma | sdparm might or might not be useful |
| 02:14.26 | phinxy | Ohh nice |
| 02:14.49 | phinxy | Worth a shot. |
| 02:14.54 | ryouma | head parking issues are big. take a look at smartctl too. |
| 02:15.03 | ryouma | dunno the diff bet sdparm and hdparm |
| 02:15.35 | ryouma | you might find youh ave parked your heads thuosadands of times |
| 02:16.03 | ryouma | wish you could turn off those blasted lights |
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| 02:40.50 | BlueHoodie | Quick question, How can i get debian 9(stable) to auto mount/not need admin to access a second harddrive ? |
| 02:41.19 | somiaj | BlueHoodie: what file system is on this second harddrive? |
| 02:42.35 | jehorn | Adding it to /etc/fstab will work, I've done that with a second hard drive. |
| 02:43.07 | BlueHoodie | somiaj: ntfs |
| 02:43.09 | somiaj | jehorn: I almsot thought that was done, and it is a permisions issue, hence knowing what file system will help |
| 02:43.16 | somiaj | BlueHoodie: do you have this mount mentioned in /etc/fstab? |
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| 02:44.26 | jehorn | Ah yeah, the filesystem I was using was ext4, so it was easy |
| 02:45.01 | BlueHoodie | somiaj: i do not, the 2nd harddrive some times gets moved between computers for benchmarking etc, its a storage drive just an internal one |
| 02:45.11 | BlueHoodie | somiaj: dont know if that makes a difference |
| 02:45.26 | somiaj | BlueHoodie: so you don't want it automounted as it may not always be plugged in? |
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| 02:46.04 | BlueHoodie | somiaj: I would like it to no need an admin to unlock the harddrive after a reboot |
| 02:46.16 | BlueHoodie | not need elevated rights * |
| 02:46.25 | somiaj | Basic idea. 1) put the UUID of the filesystem in /etc/fstab, set it up to mount it. Use the option 'noauto' so it dosen't mount at boot. If you only want your single user to access this, use the options, "uid=username,gid=groupname" of your main user, last include the option "user" (so your user can mount this). Now your user can mount this with the mount command, and the persmisions will be setup so your |
| 02:46.31 | somiaj | user can read/write to it. |
| 02:47.06 | BlueHoodie | somiaj: thanks ill look at getting that set up |
| 02:47.08 | jehorn | Yup, that's what I did, works well. |
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| 02:57.31 | phinxy | hdparm -I on the external USB HDD says "* Power Management feature set" but "-B 1" or "--idle-unload" errors: http://termbin.com/r8c8 |
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| 03:04.46 | phinxy | YES |
| 03:04.59 | phinxy | the standby time option spun down the HDD |
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| 03:25.24 | MannyLNJ | I am trying to get Calibre to start when my Debian system boots but I can't get a working systemd script. Any help is appreciated |
| 03:26.37 | annadane | i suspect you can probably just set it in your list of autostart applications, what de/wm is it? |
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| 06:03.43 | dtux | what's the story on docker.io? looks like it's still supported, even though their install guide now says to uninstall it? |
| 06:04.13 | dtux | is it just really old Docker? |
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| 06:17.21 | rajatsharma | Hey guys, newbie here, how can I install a really old package version ? Can't seem to find that version in apt-cache, so <package>=<version> is not working. Any suggestions ? Also, need to do this for a lot of packages so manually downloading each one of them would take a hell lot of time. |
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| 06:20.48 | alkisg | rajatsharma: can you give a specific example? What's the output of `apt-cache policy package`, and which package do you want to install and from which repository? |
| 06:22.55 | rajatsharma | So for example one of the packages is vim, I need to install 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u1 but apt-cache policy package gives me only one candidate : 2:8.0.0197-4+deb9u1 |
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| 06:23.37 | annadane | ,v vim |
| 06:23.38 | judd | Package: vim on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:7.3.547-7; wheezy-security: 2:7.3.547-7+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 2:7.4.488-3~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; jessie: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u3; stretch: 2:8.0.0197-4+deb9u1; buster: 2:8.0.1401-2; sid: 2:8.0.1453-1 |
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| 06:24.08 | alkisg | rajatsharma: so you have stretch and you want to install packages from jessie? How so? |
| 06:24.14 | annadane | you can probably get it from snapshots but the question is why you need an old version? |
| 06:24.17 | annadane | !snapshots |
| 06:24.17 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 06:27.15 | rajatsharma | Long story short, need to replicate a live server, so version of vim might not seem important enough but there are dependencies with other packages like redis-tools. |
| 06:27.58 | rajatsharma | So a question, a snapshot is just the packages that were included/removed right ? Or does it contain all the packages at that point in time ? |
| 06:28.27 | alkisg | rajatsharma: well the point is that packages have code to handle upgrades, but not downgrades. So downgrading a lot of packages from stretch to jessie may break things for you. You can download them from snapshot, or from https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=vim, or you could even add jessie to your sources and selectively install the ones you want |
| 06:28.48 | alkisg | Also note that a normal apt-get upgrade will then upgrade them to the latest versions, unless you use apt pinning |
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| 06:30.23 | alkisg | (also if you need to replicate the server, why don't you just clone it...) |
| 06:31.24 | rajatsharma | Okay, so do I need to include 1 spanshot URL per package in my source.list or adding a snapshot would bring all the packages from that point in time ? |
| 06:32.04 | alkisg | You can download snapshots manually, not from sources.list |
| 06:32.06 | rajatsharma | alkisg: need to write an ansible for a server that was maintained manually till now ;_; |
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| 06:32.31 | alkisg | If all the packages you want to download are from jessie, _then_ you can use sources.list entries |
| 06:32.39 | alkisg | If they are random versions... no |
| 06:33.20 | alkisg | Are you sure this server run stretch? |
| 06:33.22 | alkisg | *runs |
| 06:33.39 | rajatsharma | they are all from jessie, but not the latest from jessie. Some packages might be about a year old. |
| 06:33.57 | alkisg | Manually it is, then :) |
| 06:34.10 | rajatsharma | the old one doesn't but I'm running stretch on the new one. |
| 06:34.24 | rajatsharma | Damn ;_; |
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| 06:37.45 | rajatsharma | alkisg: One last suggestion, would copying /var/cache/apt/archives from the live server make anything easier ? |
| 06:38.30 | annadane | you can try using emacs instead :-) |
| 06:38.35 | annadane | (kidding, please don't hurt me) |
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| 06:38.39 | rajatsharma | lol |
| 06:39.07 | annadane | i'm sure it has an "emulate very specific obscure version of vim" function |
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| 06:39.57 | rajatsharma | I hope this was just about 1 or 2, or 10 packages. Would have done it manually then :P |
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| 07:02.02 | alkisg | rajatsharma: you're trying to use ansible to make a stretch server replicate a jessie server |
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| 07:02.09 | alkisg | rajatsharma: that, by definition, sucks :) |
| 07:02.19 | alkisg | First, update the jessie server |
| 07:02.26 | alkisg | Then just use ansible to create another jessie server |
| 07:02.34 | alkisg | So no messing up with the repositories, all fine |
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| 08:16.17 | jer0me | indeed bumping up versions with ansible is pretty difficult. That's one thing containers are really great for. You update the image, test your stuff and go on, As long as you don't have to worry about major dependency migration, that's nice. |
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| 08:16.45 | jer0me | postgresql used to be a bit tedious to migrate in this context though. |
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| 08:52.27 | ws2k3 | in which version of debian apt-get has https support by default? |
| 08:54.07 | toruvinn | ws2k3, i dont remember, perhaps been long ago. but you just need to install apt-transport-https and it works... |
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| 08:57.29 | ws2k3 | toruvinn yeah i know that works but i was just wondering when they are going to make that by default |
| 08:57.30 | jelly | ws2k3: none by default |
| 08:57.46 | ws2k3 | jelly what do you mean? |
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| 08:58.04 | jelly | ws2k3: apt-transport-https is not installed by default in any release |
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| 08:58.43 | ws2k3 | jelly https://packages.debian.org/sid/apt-transport-https This is a dummy transitional package - https support has been moved into the apt package in 1.5. It can be safely removed. |
| 08:58.54 | jelly | ws2k3: sid is not a release. |
| 08:59.28 | jelly | stretch, the current (latest) release has apt 1.4 |
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| 09:00.07 | ws2k3 | well then debian buster maby |
| 09:00.29 | jelly | yes |
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| 09:01.01 | ws2k3 | jelly but then the next point is still they use https in the sources.list by default or will they stick with http |
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| 09:02.20 | jelly | that will depend on each mirror and most mirrors are not controlled by debian directly |
| 09:05.52 | toruvinn | ws2k3, the packages are verified after download anyway, also hardly secret imo, so perhaps not using https is justified. |
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| 09:13.08 | hid3 | Hello. How do I find out which packages does offer blowfish.h file? I need this library, however, not sure which package shold I download |
| 09:14.01 | petn-randall | ,file blowfish.h |
| 09:14.05 | judd | Search for blowfish.h in stretch/amd64: libmbedtls-dev: usr/include/mbedtls/blowfish.h; nettle-dev: usr/include/nettle/blowfish.h; libssl1.0-dev: usr/include/openssl/blowfish.h; libcrypto++-dev: usr/include/crypto++/blowfish.h; libwvstreams-dev: usr/include/wvstreams/wvblowfish.h; libssl-dev: usr/include/openssl/blowfish.h; libavutil-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux- |
| 09:14.06 | judd | gnu/libavutil/blowfish.h; libbotan1.10-dev: usr/include/botan-1.10/botan/blowfish.h; linux-headers-4.9.0-4-common: usr/src/linux-headers-4.9.0-4-common/include/crypto/blowfish.h; linux-headers-4.9.0-4-common-rt: usr/src/linux-headers-4.9.0-4-common-rt/include/crypto/blowfish.h; php7.0-dev: usr/include/php/20151012/ext/standard/crypt_blowfish.h; juce-modules-source: (2 more messages) |
| 09:15.04 | petn-randall | hid3: It's provide by a few packages, but my best guess is libssl-dev or libcrypto++-dev, depending on your programming project. |
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| 09:15.35 | babilen | hid3: What do you need it for? |
| 09:16.08 | hid3 | I need it to compile zebedee program :) |
| 09:16.17 | hid3 | most likely openssl related |
| 09:17.10 | babilen | http://www.winton.org.uk/zebedee/ ? |
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| 09:17.53 | fightthewalrus | hello, is package unetbootin not available in Stretch? |
| 09:18.40 | babilen | it isn't |
| 09:19.00 | fightthewalrus | oh jeez |
| 09:19.16 | fightthewalrus | ... wasn't it available in previous versions, though? |
| 09:19.24 | babilen | judd: v unetbootin |
| 09:19.25 | judd | Package: unetbootin on amd64 -- wheezy: 575-1 |
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| 09:19.50 | hid3 | babilen, yep, the one |
| 09:20.07 | fightthewalrus | hmm. If that's the case, is there another way to manually extract an ISO to an USB drive and make it bootable? |
| 09:20.17 | babilen | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=870974 |
| 09:20.18 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/870974 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: unetbootin -- RoQA; missed both jessie and stretch»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-08-06; last modified: 2017-10-09. |
| 09:20.23 | fightthewalrus | I don't want to use `dd` because I need to keep the media writable |
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| 09:21.28 | babilen | hid3: That doesn't look maintained at all. |
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| 09:22.19 | alkisg | fightthewalrus: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en ? |
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| 09:22.25 | hid3 | yeah, but that's what I need exactly |
| 09:24.34 | petn-randall | fightthewalrus: if you tell us what your goal is, we might be able to suggest something better. |
| 09:24.38 | petn-randall | !unetbootin |
| 09:24.38 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 09:26.45 | fightthewalrus | petn-randall: I want to make a persistent usb drive of a distro that is not debian (antiX). I previously did it using Unetbootin because it was the easiest way once I had an ISO in hands. I know how to do it with the `dd` command, but that renders the medium unwritable, which makes persistence impossible AFAIK |
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| 09:27.26 | fightthewalrus | I was frankly quite shocked to see that unetbootin was that much outdated ad unmaintained, though. |
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| 09:29.54 | babilen | fightthewalrus: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/ might have some information |
| 09:30.40 | babilen | (e.g. yumi, multisystem, live usb install, ...) |
| 09:31.07 | fightthewalrus | thanks for these links babilen, alkisg |
| 09:31.09 | babilen | Haven't checked if any of these are packaged |
| 09:31.38 | babilen | There probably are a few unetbootin alternatives, but sadly I can't recommend any from personal experience |
| 09:31.54 | cheapie | Keep in mind you can always just install to the flash drive as if it was a hard drive. |
| 09:32.15 | petn-randall | That's probably the easiest solution, yeah. |
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| 09:36.01 | fightthewalrus | cheapie: I heard about doing so, and wonder if this will also make the drive bootable by default? |
| 09:36.17 | cheapie | Yes, just like any other drive. |
| 09:36.36 | fightthewalrus | or maybe I have to choose to install the bootloader inside the usb drive as well? |
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| 09:36.44 | fightthewalrus | got it |
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| 09:37.50 | alkisg | fightthewalrus: btw, you can just install debian to the stick, and get persistence :) |
| 09:38.55 | fightthewalrus | ai'ght, will try that. Thanks, everyone! |
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| 09:50.15 | choice | What's an elegant way to delete all files and subdirectories in a directory except for 3 specific files? |
| 09:50.48 | alkisg | something like find . ! -name bla -delete |
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| 09:51.03 | alkisg | (try with -ls first, to verify) |
| 09:51.04 | choice | Nice! Let me try that... |
| 09:51.42 | alkisg | example, find /bin ! -name ls ! -name lsblk -ls |
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| 09:52.33 | choice | why that ! signs? |
| 09:52.41 | choice | Ah, I see. |
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| 09:54.20 | choice | I'm making a script to delete all cookies and stuff from Chromium except some preferences I like to keep. |
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| 09:55.29 | choice | delete seems to not delete non empty directories. |
| 09:55.59 | choice | Use -exec rm -rv {} instead? |
| 09:56.58 | choice | Uh oh, that deleted the directory itself. |
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| 10:11.52 | petn-randall | choice: You _do_ have backups, right? |
| 10:13.39 | choice | petn-randall: No |
| 10:14.04 | choice | But I don't have important data in ~ either. |
| 10:14.50 | choice | I got it working with -mindepth 1 now. |
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| 10:27.42 | Sia- | Hi, hav installed debian on a smal device with 4TB. SMB and SSH are working fine. i have a USB port on it and want to connect this port A port to A. is that possible? |
| 10:27.43 | JustASlacker | is it possible to somehow trigger automated install, err, automatically if I have a preseeded iso |
| 10:27.58 | JustASlacker | now I have to select it manually at boot |
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| 10:28.40 | petn-randall | JustASlacker: That's a BIOS settings issue, not much Debian can help you with. |
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| 10:29.04 | JustASlacker | uh? |
| 10:29.09 | JustASlacker | how is that a bios setting |
| 10:29.12 | petn-randall | Sia-: You want to connect what exactly via USB? |
| 10:29.58 | petn-randall | JustASlacker: Hmm, it sounded like you had issues about having to select the ISO to boot. Maybe I have misinterpreted your question. |
| 10:29.59 | JustASlacker | I mean, the ISO is booted automatically. but I see the Grub menu where I have to select automatic install |
| 10:30.06 | Sia- | petn-randall i have debian on self maded nas with 4TB and want to connect this 4TB to my mdeiacenter also with debian LXDE |
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| 10:36.12 | petn-randall | Sia-: Are you asking how to configure the Debian NAS as a USB gadget? I don't think that's possible. Unless the hardware supports it. |
| 10:37.13 | Sia- | yes, on NAS devices like buffalo or synology has man a usb type c. and you can use it as external hard also |
| 10:37.55 | petn-randall | Sia-: Does it have USB C? |
| 10:38.14 | Sia- | no just usb port |
| 10:38.25 | petn-randall | err, what? |
| 10:39.57 | Sia- | i mean just a female usb2 port |
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| 10:41.03 | petn-randall | A? |
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| 10:50.23 | Nawab | hello |
| 10:50.37 | Nawab | After this operation, 79.9 kB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 10:50.38 | Nawab | dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable |
| 10:50.38 | Iridos | wasn't there a nice thing to draw onto pdfs⦠|
| 10:50.38 | dpkg | nawab: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 10:50.38 | Nawab | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 10:50.54 | Nawab | thts what i get on installing a package |
| 10:51.50 | Nawab | any help guys |
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| 10:52.38 | Sia- | petn-randall yes type A |
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| 10:54.09 | Iridos | Nawab, maybe it can't find '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' |
| 10:54.18 | Nawab | yes |
| 10:54.23 | Nawab | why is it happening |
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| 10:56.24 | Iridos | maybe it's not there |
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| 10:56.35 | Nawab | Iridos: then where is it? |
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| 10:57.18 | Nawab | Iridos: help man |
| 10:58.08 | RoyK | full disk, perhaps? corruption? |
| 10:58.24 | Nawab | no |
| 10:58.30 | Nawab | root is working fine |
| 10:58.38 | Nawab | directory |
| 10:58.44 | Nawab | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:58.59 | SirLagz | Nawab: have you checked that you have free space? |
| 10:59.15 | Nawab | 7.6 gb available |
| 10:59.18 | SirLagz | kk |
| 10:59.30 | SirLagz | Nawab: log files show anything? |
| 10:59.32 | Nawab | also its a small package |
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| 10:59.42 | Nawab | After this operation, 79.9 kB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 10:59.49 | Nawab | SirLagz: where are the logs |
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| 10:59.54 | SirLagz | Nawab: /var/log/ |
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| 11:00.39 | Nawab | SirLagz: there are dpkg.log and others of different numbers |
| 11:00.45 | Nawab | which one is the recent one |
| 11:00.51 | SirLagz | Nawab: the one without the numbers |
| 11:01.19 | Nawab | http://paste.debian.net/1009169/ |
| 11:02.14 | SirLagz | Nawab: how about the apt logs? |
| 11:02.57 | Nawab | SirLagz: there are lots of files in the apt directory |
| 11:03.09 | Nawab | is it history.log ? |
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| 11:03.43 | towo^work | apt -f install |
| 11:03.57 | towo^work | then the whole errormessage will be shown again |
| 11:04.00 | SirLagz | Nawab: is there anything in history or term? |
| 11:04.39 | Nawab | wait one sec |
| 11:05.09 | Nawab | apt -f install didnt gave any errors but |
| 11:05.22 | Nawab | apt-get install nethogs gives a error |
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| 11:07.19 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 11:07.20 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 11:07.27 | zomaar | unshare -m bash, then mounting something and setting it to private should hide it from the parent namespace right? |
| 11:07.30 | petn-randall | Nawab: Can you provide *all* of the above in a single paste? ^^^^ |
| 11:08.08 | petn-randall | !tias |
| 11:08.08 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 11:08.49 | zomaar | when I do so it is shown as "shared" on the parent, and even after making it private in the parent it is still visible in the parent |
| 11:10.18 | zomaar | the child does have its own mount namespace ID in /proc/self/ns |
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| 11:11.32 | Nawab | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/1009171/ |
| 11:11.45 | zomaar | but I can see, and access, the mount on the parent as well |
| 11:11.55 | zomaar | or any other process |
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| 11:14.53 | petn-randall | Nawab: Does /sbin/start-stop-daemon exist? It's part of dpkg, and an essential package, so it should be there. |
| 11:15.06 | Nawab | petn-randall: idk |
| 11:15.22 | petn-randall | Nawab: Then check it. |
| 11:15.22 | Nawab | what is the command, find start-stop-daemon? |
| 11:15.35 | petn-randall | Nawab: 'ls -l /sbin/start-stop-daemon' |
| 11:15.53 | petn-randall | It should produce a single line. |
| 11:16.01 | Nawab | ls -l /sbin/start-stop-daemon |
| 11:16.02 | Nawab | ls: cannot access '/sbin/start-stop-daemon': No such file or directory |
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| 11:17.22 | petn-randall | Nawab: That's your problem right there. You could try 'apt-get --reinstall install dpkg', no idea if that works, though. |
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| 11:17.31 | petn-randall | Nawab: Wait, what does the output of 'df -h' give you? |
| 11:17.49 | Nawab | udev 5.4G 0 5.4G 0% /dev |
| 11:17.49 | Nawab | tmpfs 1.1G 9.5M 1.1G 1% /run |
| 11:17.49 | Nawab | /dev/sda6 23G 15G 7.1G 68% / |
| 11:17.49 | Nawab | tmpfs 5.4G 20M 5.4G 1% /dev/shm |
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| 11:18.02 | Nawab | mpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock |
| 11:18.02 | Nawab | tmpfs 5.4G 0 5.4G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup |
| 11:18.02 | Nawab | /dev/sda7 51G 33G 15G 69% /home |
| 11:18.02 | Nawab | tmpfs 1.1G 16K 1.1G 1% /run/user/114 |
| 11:18.02 | Nawab | tmpfs 1.1G 40K 1.1G 1% /run/user/1000 |
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| 11:18.24 | Nawab | ok |
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| 11:18.51 | petn-randall | Nawab: It's better to use https://paste.debian.net in the future, the bot will kick you if you flood the channel. |
| 11:21.45 | petn-randall | Nawab: Looks like it's not a space issue. I'd try 'apt-get --reinstall install dpkg' next. |
| 11:22.10 | Nawab | http://paste.debian.net/1009172/ |
| 11:22.14 | Nawab | ok ill try |
| 11:23.56 | Nawab | ok its installing |
| 11:24.39 | petn-randall | Nawab: Once it's through, you could try the previous command that failed again. |
| 11:24.47 | Nawab | ok |
| 11:26.40 | Nawab | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/1009173/ |
| 11:26.48 | Nawab | its iving the error again |
| 11:27.22 | Nawab | petn-randall: should i dpkg -i it? |
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| 11:28.52 | petn-randall | Neel: What did 'apt-get --reinstall install dpkg' output? Did you get an error? |
| 11:29.08 | Neel | yes |
| 11:29.11 | Neel | http://paste.debian.net/1009173/ |
| 11:29.17 | Neel | thts the error part only |
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| 11:29.40 | petn-randall | Neel: Ah, paste the complete output please for context. |
| 11:30.15 | Neel | http://paste.debian.net/1009174/ |
| 11:32.38 | petn-randall | Neel: Yeah, you could try installing it with dpkg -i --force-all /path/to/dpkg.deb. |
| 11:32.53 | Neel | ok |
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| 11:33.41 | petn-randall | Neel: Btw, do you know what caused this file to stop existing? Did you accidentally delete them? |
| 11:33.52 | Neel | no i didnt delete them |
| 11:33.56 | Neel | but idk |
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| 11:34.45 | Neel | i was having slow internets though |
| 11:35.11 | petn-randall | That shouldn't have caused the issue. Maybe a power failure while applying updates? |
| 11:35.26 | javascript881 | I have raspbian installed on my rpi, and when booting it encounters a [FATAL] error, it won't start up and just keeps looping `get-iface-ip ioctl failure no such device` |
| 11:35.33 | javascript881 | is there any way to get past this? all I want is to get a few scripts on it and I can just throw away the sd card if it's fried |
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| 11:37.13 | Neel | petn-randall: after this it should download the previous command's package correctly right? |
| 11:37.24 | Neel | dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable |
| 11:37.24 | dpkg | neel: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 11:37.24 | Neel | dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled: |
| 11:37.28 | Neel | dpkg: warning: 1 expected program not found in PATH or not executable |
| 11:37.28 | dpkg | neel: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 11:37.55 | Neel | it says tht the path of tht file is not in roots path |
| 11:38.06 | petn-randall | Neel: Again, use the paste site to paste the full output, otherwise the bot might kick you. |
| 11:38.18 | Neel | ok sorry |
| 11:38.23 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 11:38.24 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 11:38.35 | petn-randall | javascript881: You might want to ask in the raspbian channel. ^^^ |
| 11:39.08 | BCMM | javascript881: also try #raspberrypi |
| 11:39.45 | BCMM | ever since the Pi foundation has basically officially had raspbian as the default OS for the Pi, there's more Raspbian talk there than there is on #raspbian |
| 11:40.48 | BCMM | oh, turns out "basically officially" was an understatement: "Raspbian is the Foundationâs official supported Operating System." |
| 11:41.02 | zomaar | I needed to make the / private before the child became private to other processes |
| 11:43.24 | JustASlacker | is it possible to somehow trigger automated install, err, automatically if I have a preseeded iso? without selecting "automatic install" in grub ? |
| 11:46.02 | JustASlacker | O_o |
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| 11:50.19 | JustASlacker | that would be nice |
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| 12:13.28 | barhom | Why is apt complaining about wanting to update to kernel 4.9.0.5 via a dist-upgrade instead of a normal upgrade? |
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| 12:14.59 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 12:15.00 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 12:15.11 | petn-randall | barhom: Can you provide all of the above in a single paste? ^^^ |
| 12:15.45 | barhom | petn-randall, I can, but that does seem overkill. Just a normal stretch installation that wants to update to a new kernel via dist-upgrade |
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| 12:16.05 | barhom | I simply thought it would not be a dist-upgrade as long as there is not a new debian version |
| 12:16.27 | towo^work | barhom, upgrade never update a package, if new packages would be installed too |
| 12:16.38 | petn-randall | barhom: Indeed, but my crystal ball in the shops for repairs right now, so plain old log output will have to do. |
| 12:16.43 | towo^work | so use apt upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade |
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| 12:17.55 | jelly | barhom: dist-upgrade has nothing to do with release upgrades, the name is somewhat misleading. |
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| 12:20.12 | jelly | !dist-upgrade |
| 12:20.13 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; apt and aptitude both call dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade>, <full-upgrade>. |
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| 12:21.00 | barhom | alright, got my answers, thx |
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| 12:34.38 | JustASlacker | alrite |
| 12:34.51 | JustASlacker | I got my iso to boot into automatical setup |
| 12:35.00 | JustASlacker | by fucking with the isolinux.cfg |
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| 12:40.44 | jeppech | I have a compiled executable, which is 39Mb after compilation. After packing the file into a .deb package, and inspecting the package contents by `dpkg -c package.deb`, the file is suddenly decreased to 29Mb. When installing it, with `dpkg -i`, the size is still 29Mb, and it does not work as expected. Anyone who knows what I could be doing wrong? |
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| 12:48.52 | alkisg | jeppech: dpkg -c isn't supposed to alter .deb files, can you reproduce that issue? |
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| 12:51.44 | jeppech | alkisg, i found out! |
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| 12:53.13 | jeppech | The binary, which is nodejs module 'compiled', does not work if it's being stripped, with `dh_strip`. |
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| 14:34.40 | rmrfchik | is there way to get installed version on 'dpkg --get-selection'? |
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| 14:35.33 | babilen | rmrfchik: no |
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| 14:37.31 | rmrfchik | babilen, may be other way to get list of installed packages with version? |
| 14:37.44 | rmrfchik | or dpkg+apt+awk? |
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| 14:39.31 | bites | rmrfchik: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
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| 14:40.00 | g0zzy | "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system." I get this when i try to open a link in a Thunderbird message. Am running Debian stretch firefox-esr |
| 14:40.51 | BCMM | g0zzy: killall firefox; retry |
| 14:41.32 | rmrfchik | bites, thanks!!! |
| 14:41.49 | bites | :) |
| 14:43.01 | babilen | dpkg: aptitude clone |
| 14:43.01 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
| 14:43.25 | babilen | rmrfchik: ^ might come in handy (adapt -F %p to your liking) |
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| 15:00.27 | g0zzy | BCMM: Shall do. Be back in 15 |
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| 15:04.25 | c8bitglitch | I need some assistance... this is more of a brainstorming question... but I am having a hard time deciding when to use BASH, Python or Perl for my scripts. What do you folks use the most for system admin scripting? |
| 15:06.25 | wigums | i use bash but thats a habit from 20 years of slackware |
| 15:06.48 | wigums | slackwares sysv init is all scripted in bash |
| 15:07.52 | Brigo | c8bitglitch, bash (and even better sh) is always available in a system. |
| 15:08.24 | Brigo | so for critical scripts i would use it. In general for system and small scripts. |
| 15:08.55 | Brigo | Python for bigger or complex things. I would never use Perl :D |
| 15:09.03 | wigums | <3 perl |
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| 15:09.37 | Brigo | people loves al kind of things :) |
| 15:09.40 | Brigo | all* |
| 15:09.43 | jelly | I would use perl because perl-base is in default installation |
| 15:09.51 | jelly | and python is not |
| 15:10.07 | jelly | (or was it, CBA to check for stretch) |
| 15:10.11 | Brigo | jelly, that's is a problem we will have to solve :D |
| 15:10.11 | jelly | was not* |
| 15:10.35 | Brigo | i really dislike perl. |
| 15:10.40 | petn-randall | c8bitglitch: python here, but that's just because my two colleagues don't speak Perl ;). For everything else ansible. |
| 15:10.50 | jelly | nah, perl one-use scripts have 5 lines where I have to type 25 in python 2 |
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| 15:11.21 | jelly | ,v ansible |
| 15:11.22 | judd | Package: ansible on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.7.2+dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.7.2+dfsg-2; jessie-backports: 2.2.1.0-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.2.1.0-2; stretch-backports: 2.4.0.0+dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster: 2.4.3.0+dfsg-1; sid: 2.4.3.0+dfsg-1 |
| 15:11.30 | petn-randall | jelly: But can you still read them without scratching your head half a year later? |
| 15:11.34 | Brigo | jelly, how many decades did you need for learning how to write thoses 5 lines? |
| 15:11.36 | wigums | i dont like python because i make sooo many typos and python just doesnt like typos |
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| 15:11.57 | Brigo | wigums, and perl like them?? |
| 15:12.04 | c8bitglitch | I appreciate all your insight. The funny thing is... when I use BASH... I always kick myself like 26 lines later... "oh I wish i could do this easier", so i switch to Python... then I have to do all the special library `` to run command line stuff... ADmin stuff is never easy |
| 15:12.05 | petn-randall | wigums: I'd say pretty much all programming languages are picky regarding typos ... |
| 15:12.31 | wigums | python is all about neatness of the code. perl is much more forgiving .e.g. whitespace etc etc |
| 15:12.37 | Goldi22 | hello guys I have a question. Did Debian 8 get spectre patch? How safe is it to use it? |
| 15:12.41 | petn-randall | c8bitglitch: Seriously, consider using ansible for that. It makes live so much easier. |
| 15:12.49 | petn-randall | !tracker of doom |
| 15:12.49 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 15:12.58 | petn-randall | Goldi22: Look up the CVEs in the tracker of doom. ^^^ |
| 15:13.25 | bites | bash for small automation stuff, python when i want the high level features or some library. |
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| 15:13.30 | Goldi22 | Ill wait for answer here |
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| 15:13.48 | petn-randall | !spectre |
| 15:13.49 | dpkg | well, spectre is https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5753 https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5715 |
| 15:13.51 | jelly | Goldi22: which variant? |
| 15:13.56 | Brigo | Goldi22, you've got your answer. |
| 15:13.57 | wigums | for home users spectre isnt that big of a deal. you still have to crack an account and escelate to root before taking advantage of spectre |
| 15:14.01 | c8bitglitch | petn-randall, i will look at 'ansible' |
| 15:14.23 | Brigo | wigums, if you can scalate to root you don't need spectre. |
| 15:14.36 | wigums | yea ski p that part... derp |
| 15:14.43 | Goldi22 | how safe is it to use compared to debian 9 |
| 15:14.45 | jelly | Goldi22: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5715 or https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5753 ? |
| 15:15.05 | Goldi22 | hell knows jelly |
| 15:15.32 | jelly | so both. |
| 15:15.35 | Goldi22 | oh guys another question please hehe |
| 15:15.50 | Goldi22 | what player is best for 4K formats? |
| 15:16.09 | jelly | one that works |
| 15:16.26 | wigums | vlc and the mplayers support 4k i believe |
| 15:16.35 | wigums | like smplayer |
| 15:16.53 | jelly | resolution is less important than codec details |
| 15:16.59 | Goldi22 | what package should I install to play 4k h.265 and so on? I tried installing some codecs but maybe theres a player that has it builtin? |
| 15:17.05 | jelly | Goldi22: try mpv |
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| 15:17.42 | Collaken | suddenly my cinnamon keeps crashing, anyone knows how to get a crashlog or something? |
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| 15:18.55 | wigums | vlc is 4k ready https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/2.1.0.html |
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| 15:19.59 | jelly | yeah, but vlc also needs manual tuning very often |
| 15:20.53 | wigums | i dont often have to mess with it but i also dont have 4k.... a quick google lookis like mplayer looks to be 4k ready too |
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| 15:22.57 | jelly | anyone can google things. How actual builds in debian work can be a very different thing |
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| 15:25.06 | jelly | CobHead: see if you have anything in ~/.xsession-errors, and in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:25.13 | jelly | Collaken: ^^ |
| 15:25.15 | g0zzy | Am i connected? |
| 15:25.19 | jelly | g0zzy: yes |
| 15:25.22 | wigums | im not the 4k player authority. the question was which media players have 4k built in.... vlc and mplayer do |
| 15:28.30 | g0zzy | is thinking perhaps this should be filed as a bug (both Firefox and Thunderbird are apt's) |
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| 15:35.07 | BCMM | g0zzy: have you made sure that your problem is not, in fact, exactly what the error message says your problem is? |
| 15:35.28 | BCMM | or do you mean this problem recurs every time you restart firefox? |
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| 15:59.24 | simulant_ | Hi my NAS has changed local static ip address, so I wondered how my Debian client server stores the samba share. Currently my debian system has my NAS samba share saved so I can just stream video files etc. Is there anywhere I can update to the new IP through command line? |
| 16:00.03 | petn-randall | simulant_: How are you currently accessing it? |
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| 16:04.34 | simulant_ | petn-randall: with a raspberry pi i have connected to my tv with onscreen player. i can connect to raspberry pi which uses armbian/debian/raspbian (one of em!) so though if I could just ssh in and then update the IP so it looks in the right place that would be best |
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| 16:19.36 | jelly | simulant_: how did you configure this samba share the first time? Added it to /etc/fstab? |
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| 16:23.11 | simulant_ | jelly: it was so long ago I'm not sure. but it doesn't show in fstab so I'm wondering if it is a linux share and not samba... |
| 16:24.09 | simulant_ | jelly: I tried grep -R "192.168.1.100" to find the old reference in /etc/ and in my home directory but nothing comes up except old session history |
| 16:25.20 | jelly | simulant_: even if it was nfs you'd still put it into fstab |
| 16:25.58 | jelly | simulant_: are you sure this is on Debian? |
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| 16:33.13 | simulant_ | jelly: ah not to worry I found it now. I was being stupid! Thanks for helping |
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| 16:56.04 | GNU\colossus | I'm looking to rebuild a Debian sid package for four the distro release that we're still using internally (squeeze to stretch), and will have to apply a custom patch to the build script before performing each rebuild. what's the fastest approach to getting this done properly? |
| 16:57.05 | petn-randall | !ssb |
| 16:57.06 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 16:58.30 | GNU\colossus | petn-randall, so... it's gonna be pbuilder? ;) |
| 16:58.32 | petn-randall | GNU\colossus: ^^^ See above. At the last step of 3), run apt-get source packagename (without -b), then apply patches and compile with debuild. |
| 16:58.36 | RoyK | !nsn |
| 16:58.40 | RoyK | !sns |
| 16:58.40 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 17:02.02 | Rukus | hey everyone |
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| 17:05.00 | Rukus | i was suggested to install debian-testing but i am unsure about that |
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| 17:06.12 | somiaj | Rukus: are advise here is use stable unless you really know what you are doing and understand how debian works. |
| 17:07.19 | Rukus | i might have to agree with you. i tried out manjaro and things are slowly starting to do funny things on me... and i just don't have the patience to keep fixing things. |
| 17:08.06 | Rukus | my experience mostly comes from linux mint and raspbian, i may as well stick to debian |
| 17:09.16 | somiaj | Debian stable is a very solid system, because it is frozen and well tested. Provided you work in debian stable you shouldn't run into many seriours bugs (there are plenty of small bugs and one does have to take time to configure things correctly though) |
| 17:09.36 | somiaj | Rukus: if you don't like to fix things, and have things constantally change on you, debian stable is great. |
| 17:09.57 | somiaj | You do have the drawback of the software is a bit older, but this isn't a big deal in most cases. You shuld read this to help have a nice day in debian |
| 17:10.00 | somiaj | !don't break debian |
| 17:10.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 17:10.43 | Rukus | nice |
| 17:10.58 | Rukus | i think it will suit me best in the end |
| 17:11.35 | Rukus | I've been a mint user for years before manjaro, what am i going to experience when moving to debian? |
| 17:11.46 | Rukus | manjaro for ~3 months |
| 17:11.58 | petn-randall | Rukus: Debian testing is only really useful if you want to contribute to Debian development by stumbling upon bugs and debugging them. |
| 17:12.36 | Rukus | petn-randall, got ya. stable is best for me |
| 17:14.10 | Rukus | now, here is the million dollar question |
| 17:14.35 | Rukus | can i install debian over manjaro and preserve my current /home partition ? |
| 17:14.56 | Rukus | i have separate /boot /root /home |
| 17:15.21 | Rukus | no swap partition |
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| 17:16.08 | jelly | Rukus: yes, but it's always safer to make an actual backup of that /home to different media |
| 17:17.00 | somiaj | Rukus: note version differences of software could cause some of your old configs to cause unexpcted issues with debian (espically for say gnome/kde -- the bigger des) |
| 17:17.11 | jelly | Rukus: you will need to make a backup of /etc/{passwd,shadow,group,gshadow} to recreate the user after installation |
| 17:17.32 | Rukus | hmmm |
| 17:17.43 | jelly | or you'll have to do it manually and possibly need to chown things |
| 17:18.20 | Rukus | what if i just made a new user, and then i can transfer over my docs pics etc from the old user dir |
| 17:18.24 | Rukus | ? |
| 17:18.41 | Rukus | i mean new user creates its own home dir |
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| 17:20.22 | jelly | that's more safe, wrt gnome/kde version incompatibilities |
| 17:21.08 | Rukus | ok so its no an insane idea for me to do then |
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| 17:21.18 | Rukus | s/no/not |
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| 17:21.24 | jelly | nod |
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| 17:22.47 | Rukus | great! Thank you. :) |
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| 17:28.42 | raynold | Ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 17:29.03 | Hijiri | I can't connect to any debian repo mirrors for some reason |
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| 17:29.14 | Hijiri | also libre office is mysteriously missing (which is why I am trying to install it) |
| 17:29.50 | Hijiri | I mean, I can't connect from apt |
| 17:30.02 | towo` | "i can't" is saying zero |
| 17:30.20 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 17:30.20 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:30.50 | Hijiri | ok |
| 17:31.51 | Hijiri | http://lpaste.net/5130235781058658304 |
| 17:32.27 | Hijiri | It's cut off in my terminal session too |
| 17:33.23 | jelly | Hijiri: it looks as if your debian system thinks ipv6 is available where it doesn't really work |
| 17:33.26 | shtrb | Hijiri, do you have plain old IPv4 caccess ? |
| 17:33.35 | Hijiri | I should |
| 17:33.48 | Hijiri | I thought ipv6 should work here too, but I guess not |
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| 17:33.52 | jelly | Hijiri: can you pastebin the output of "ip r" and "ip -6 r" |
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| 17:34.21 | jelly | Hijiri: and also "ip a" |
| 17:35.31 | Hijiri | http://lpaste.net/1663376916037500928 |
| 17:35.46 | Hijiri | just don't hack me |
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| 17:40.09 | Dagger | I count at least 3 "wat"s in that v6 config |
| 17:40.24 | Hijiri | I don't think I messed with it manually |
| 17:40.45 | jelly | it's a bit weird. I can't ping6 2606:6000:cccd:8600:de0e:a1ff:feef:7858 anyway so it's probably safe to say it does not work |
| 17:41.28 | Hijiri | Can I force apt to use ipv4 |
| 17:41.47 | Dagger | 2606:6000:cccd:8600::1 would normally be the router, there are two link-local routes, and a random route for a /56... hm, maybe the last one is okay, and having two identical routes shouldn't harm anything |
| 17:43.30 | Dagger | but the ::1 address is either static or from DHCPv6, and either would be weird |
| 17:43.43 | jelly | Hijiri: you can force local resolver to use ipv4 first, but you shouldn't need to do that. Do you have console access to this system? If so, you could try to "ifdown enp2s0; sleep 2; ifup enp2s0" and see if a refresh of configuration brings things back up |
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| 17:43.54 | Hijiri | ok |
| 17:43.55 | Hijiri | brb |
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| 17:47.35 | jelly | and there's an ipv4 link-local 169.254/16 route but no ip address assigned? I'm clueless about ipv6. |
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| 17:48.12 | Hijiri | sorry, lost connection |
| 17:48.14 | Hijiri | I did ifconfig enp2s0 up / down instead |
| 17:48.16 | Hijiri | that didn't give the error |
| 17:48.24 | Hijiri | I don't know, but this is the machine I'm on IRC from |
| 17:48.32 | Hijiri | so I have ipv4 internet access at least |
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| 17:50.37 | jelly | ifconfig is a completely different command. |
| 17:51.03 | Dagger | you're connected to IRC from DigitalOcean, but the v6 addresses in your pastebin are from Time Warner, according to whois |
| 17:51.04 | jelly | Hijiri: > "ifdown enp2s0; sleep 2; ifup enp2s0" and see if a refresh of configuration brings things back up |
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| 17:53.26 | jelly | I wanted to see whether ifdown / ifup would force a refresh from router/dhcp and maybe make things better |
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| 17:55.39 | Hijiri | Dagger: I'm using a bouncer |
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| 17:56.17 | Hijiri | I'm connected to it through ipv4, and I can also visit website in my web browser |
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| 17:58.57 | jelly | web browsers are a bit smarter about dns, reorder the results they get from the resolver and they know 'v6 can be broken and to retry the same site with 'v4 addresses |
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| 17:59.21 | jelly | apt... isn't |
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| 18:00.35 | Hijiri | well, ipv6 was working on this computer at some poitn I think. I can access ipv6 on my other computer on the same router |
| 18:00.37 | Dagger | apt relies on the system ordering, which is v6 first if you have v6 |
| 18:00.37 | apt | Dagger: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 18:01.19 | Dagger | but the assumption is that it's working |
| 18:03.00 | jelly | I think there's at least one bug report for stretch where default v6 route is lost and never refreshed but of course I can't find it right now |
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| 18:03.37 | Dagger | and there's a valid-looking default route in the pastebin |
| 18:03.58 | Dagger | Hijiri: does `ping6 fe80::be64:4bff:fe9e:e6c%enp2s0` work? |
| 18:04.25 | Hijiri | yes |
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| 18:07.31 | Dagger | and I guess `ping6 2600::` doesn't? |
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| 18:09.46 | Hijiri | I actually have to get to school now |
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| 18:10.14 | Hijiri | thanks Dagger jelly for helping me |
| 18:10.17 | Dagger | I'm out of great ideas anyway, apart from maybe to try `ip a d 2606:6000:cccd:8600::1/128 dev enp2s0` and see if it magically helps |
| 18:10.42 | Hijiri | it didn't seem to help |
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| 18:24.22 | jelly | Hijiri: you can always reboot as a last resort :-| |
| 18:24.39 | c8bitglitch | captain reboot strikes again.... NO!!! |
| 18:25.15 | c8bitglitch | :-| -1 is right |
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| 18:45.25 | goose | I've got a headless home server that I just issued a 'reboot' command to. It's been about 30 minutes and the machine still hasn't come back up (Normally takes about 20-30 seconds). Once I restart it, how can I try and troubleshoot why it failed to boot previously? |
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| 18:45.52 | goose | (It does this once every 10 boots, or so) |
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| 18:49.18 | Poster | The only thing I can think of is that it's running an fsck, but iirc it's either based on a mount count or number of days since previous fsck |
| 18:49.38 | Poster | What do you find locally when it doesn't come back up? |
| 18:49.54 | wigums | you can force fsck on every boot |
| 18:50.37 | wigums | id hook a monitor to it when it doesnt ccome back and see what i coan find... you dont have X running on tthat headless box do you? |
| 18:50.49 | goose | I don't, no |
| 18:51.30 | wigums | oh i see what Poster meant.... like if it was running fsck on those boots |
| 18:52.17 | Poster | yeah I don't remember the mount count by default, I think the day count is 180 but I am not 100% on that either |
| 18:52.17 | goose | can I disable fsck on boot? |
| 18:52.37 | wigums | yea but you dont want to... what FS? |
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| 18:54.50 | goose | ext4 |
| 18:54.55 | goose | 2 for /boot |
| 18:55.22 | Poster | I think you want tune2fs to adjust those values, -c for mount count and -i for interval |
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| 18:56.22 | wigums | yea i wouldnt disable it on an ext4 drive |
| 18:56.31 | Poster | yeah I wouldn't recommend it either |
| 18:56.40 | wigums | ive had bad luck with ext over the years |
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| 18:58.27 | goose | hm |
| 18:58.30 | Poster | there are a couple boot options too I think fsck.repair=yes |
| 18:58.39 | goose | any idea how long it'll take to run on an 8 TB 5 disk RAID 5? |
| 18:58.47 | Poster | otherwise it may be sitting at a console asking if you want to repair something |
| 18:59.04 | wigums | aha. forever |
| 18:59.21 | wigums | deffinitely long enough to make you think the box didnt boot |
| 18:59.58 | Poster | I ended up using that on a RPi I was working with, it was remote/headless/etc, I run the filesystem read only |
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| 19:00.49 | jelly | goose: rough guess is 1 hour per TB |
| 19:01.15 | jelly | also it might need about 1GB RAM per TB, too |
| 19:02.04 | jelly | since it has 5 disks to read from in parallel it might go a bit faster. |
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| 19:02.48 | jelly | fsck basically looks and feels like random read io |
| 19:03.29 | goose | That's fine, it's got 16 GB of RAM |
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| 19:03.42 | goose | guess I'll wait |
| 19:03.59 | Poster | if you have another system, you could consider something like a serial console |
| 19:04.07 | jelly | goose: if you're running it manually, you can use -C to get a PROGRESS BAR |
| 19:04.26 | jelly | what luxury |
| 19:05.38 | goose | serial console |
| 19:05.40 | goose | that's a good idea |
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| 19:19.12 | sebboh | Hi. How come some processes end up with init as a parent even though I started them with my shell or window manager? For example, in this screenshot: https://my.mixtape.moe/zfjsrw.PNG ... The processes marked "2." should be somewhere under "1.", I thought. |
| 19:22.22 | dondelelcaro | sebboh: that's because those processes call setsid() or their process group leader has died |
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| 19:25.48 | sebboh | dondelelcaro: in my screen shot, is PID 528, (/bin/login -p --) the "process group leader"? |
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| 19:26.47 | sebboh | Can I stop processes from calling setsid() successfully? |
| 19:26.54 | dondelelcaro | sebboh: why would you want to? |
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| 19:28.06 | dondelelcaro | hrm; actually, they're doing more than just calling setsid(). Been a while since I've thought about this |
| 19:29.39 | dondelelcaro | sebboh: but yeah, man 7 daemon; explains the full details |
| 19:29.43 | sebboh | dondelelcaro: On the first linux machine I used, every process had a parent. init was the single root (or trunk) of my tree of processes. This logical model was useful. I could look at it and see what my system was doing. |
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| 19:30.21 | sebboh | at some point.. (kernel 2.6? I dunno..) it changed. |
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| 19:30.43 | dondelelcaro | sebboh: this is actually pretty old; SysV works that way. |
| 19:31.54 | sebboh | SysV works which way? The current way or the way I described? |
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| 19:32.59 | sebboh | oh, I'm reading daemon(7) now, I see. |
| 19:34.38 | sebboh | this is a great manpage for people that have been ignoring systemd for as long as possible. ;P |
| 19:35.52 | jelly | sebboh: you might want to hide threads in htop to get less noise. Your "surf" browser might have decided to be in its own session for some reason? |
| 19:36.12 | jelly | also, what kind of Debian system has /etc/sysconfig/console? :-) |
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| 19:37.53 | sebboh | jelly, great question! I'm using my debian machine to build an LFS machine. The process tree question just happened to come up while I was doing that, so that's why the process list has that in it. |
| 19:38.33 | sebboh | hide.. threads.. checking. |
| 19:41.14 | jelly | F2 -> display options -> Hide userland process threads |
| 19:41.28 | jelly | unless it's already [x] |
| 19:41.52 | sebboh | btw... I'm building a non-debian machine. :| Let's be honest... I have been compiling my most important packages from ~/src for years. Haven't used a *-desktop package in years. The machine I'm building has a SysV init. I'm going to keep a few debian machines around, of course. |
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| 19:45.21 | sebboh | jelly, the "show custom thread names" option is neat! I think it should be checked by default. Mine was not. |
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| 20:00.07 | JustASlacker | sebboh: ##slackware ? |
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| 20:03.21 | sebboh | JustASlacker: haven't used it since ~2002. |
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| 20:05.48 | JustASlacker | sounds like you build your own |
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| 20:06.26 | nmschulte | I accident `aptitude install cloud-init` and reboot, and now I wanna cleanup (cloud-init added junk to init/systemd, /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/apt/, ...). Is there an easy way? I've purged the package, but the bits remain. |
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| 20:15.56 | jelly | nmschulte: look at aptitude's logs for the deps installed at the same time and purge them all |
| 20:16.35 | nmschulte | jelly: I've purged the packages, but they seem to have left some droppings (critical things...). |
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| 20:17.59 | nmschulte | at least it left a mark in nearly every file it touched. rgrep'ing right now. |
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| 20:23.53 | jelly | nmschulte: if there's stuff left over after purge, this probably qualifies for a bug report |
| 20:24.35 | jelly | (and wth would a package change /etc/network/interfaces?) |
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| 20:27.12 | ryouma | purge will leave dependencies in default setup |
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| 20:32.27 | misty5 | don't get chaep on my jelly, that was ryouma's mistake. |
| 20:32.50 | misty5 | and stop wearing that silly hat, what do you think, that you're a secret agent? |
| 20:33.00 | misty5 | jelly, jelly everyone, this is jelly. |
| 20:33.02 | misty5 | points at jelly |
| 20:33.04 | misty5 | Nobody cares. |
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| 20:34.21 | mum0l | hi folks! need some advise... I get some hdd errors via logwatach tool, that my hard disk is expiriencing some issues. This is dell poweredge server which is about 7years old. On this server there is a hardware raid controler which have 2 disks connected in RAID0. So looks like I'm on a safe side right? But.. now I am not sure, how can I check which of those 2 disks is faulty. Could you advice how can I check which disk is currently used ? |
| 20:35.20 | metastable | RAID0. How is that the safe side? |
| 20:35.22 | misty5 | disks will appear as 1 device? |
| 20:35.27 | misty5 | yeah, how's that sife |
| 20:35.27 | apollo13 | haha |
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| 20:35.45 | apollo13 | mum0l: I hope you have backups |
| 20:35.52 | metastable | If by "safe" you mean "FBI agents want the system and I can now tell them that I lost all the data accidentally," then sure. |
| 20:36.08 | misty5 | mum0l: does it matter which one it is if all your data is gone pretty much if 1 of them breaks? |
| 20:36.11 | JustASlacker | http://ask-leo.com/what_is_raid_and_why_is_raid_0_such_a_bad_bad_idea.html |
| 20:36.32 | mum0l | oh, thanks for cheer up ;/ |
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| 20:36.40 | JustASlacker | sure its a raid0 ? |
| 20:37.18 | mum0l | LOL sorry RAID1 - mirroring , I missed numbers [; |
| 20:37.20 | misty5 | mum0l: boot somehow (live cd) where the two disks are separated, run smartctl on them. |
| 20:37.25 | JustASlacker | slaps mum0l |
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| 20:37.29 | mum0l | [; |
| 20:37.48 | misty5 | mum0l: smartctl will tell you which one the failing one is. |
| 20:38.13 | JustASlacker | you want to get the software for your raid controller |
| 20:38.24 | JustASlacker | what is it? LSI, MegaRaid? |
| 20:38.28 | mum0l | misty5: sadly no, as I get alert "Smartctl open device: /dev/sda failed: DELL or MegaRaid controller, please try adding '-d megaraid,N'" and even adding megaraid flag, it doesn't help |
| 20:38.41 | mum0l | I've no idea.. I was not seting up this server.. |
| 20:38.42 | JustASlacker | get the megaraid suff |
| 20:38.52 | JustASlacker | you can check with lspci -vvv |
| 20:38.59 | JustASlacker | or even lshw |
| 20:39.31 | JustASlacker | https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware_Raid_Setup_using_MegaCli |
| 20:40.22 | JustASlacker | https://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins |
| 20:40.24 | mum0l | lspci shows "02:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5, Subsystem: Dell PERC 5/i Integrated RAID Controller" |
| 20:40.35 | misty5 | mum0l: as I said, you'll have to turn off raid and then run smartctl |
| 20:41.10 | misty5 | only then will you have two separate disks to smartctl |
| 20:41.16 | JustASlacker | nope |
| 20:41.25 | JustASlacker | you ask the raid controller which is faulty |
| 20:41.39 | mum0l | but I dont have access to the server, and AFAIK it require to restart server to turn off raid after bios... |
| 20:41.58 | mum0l | also there is high-avaliability site there, so each restart must be planned very carrefully |
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| 20:42.07 | mum0l | fu**n oldies [; |
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| 20:42.56 | JustASlacker | mum0l: the wiki.debian.org says you need aacraid for dell poweredge |
| 20:43.39 | mum0l | JustASlacker: whatever it is aacraid, I can't find it in my wheezy repo.. |
| 20:44.40 | JustASlacker | I suggest you read through the links I provided |
| 20:44.45 | JustASlacker | its seriously oldschool |
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| 20:45.25 | mum0l | ok, thanks buddy! will go thru now ;] |
| 20:45.30 | JustASlacker | godspeed |
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| 20:58.05 | d9867eb | hi, does anyone know when Plasma will get added to Debian unstable? |
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| 21:00.54 | annadane | d9867eb, you mean 5.12 |
| 21:00.56 | annadane | ? |
| 21:01.05 | Hijiri | I solved not being able to download packages by installing them on school wifi |
| 21:01.07 | Hijiri | so not really solved but my immediate problem is |
| 21:01.09 | Hijiri | d9867eb: you reminded me that I was wondering when something would be packaged |
| 21:01.15 | Hijiri | but I can't remember what I wanted packaged |
| 21:01.32 | d9867eb | annadane, yes of course. |
| 21:01.42 | annadane | unclear at this stage |
| 21:01.43 | d9867eb | I forgot to mention that. |
| 21:01.54 | annadane | i know 5.11 has been in experimental forever |
| 21:01.57 | Hijiri | oh yeah, I think I was wondering if there were plans to package godot |
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| 21:02.09 | Hijiri | though it's easy to just download binaries from their site |
| 21:02.14 | annadane | you can try asking in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net but i'm not sure you'll get an answer |
| 21:02.41 | d9867eb | annadane, ok thanks |
| 21:03.01 | annadane | i expect the answer is "not soon" given how complex it is |
| 21:03.10 | annadane | but i could be pleasantly surprised |
| 21:03.21 | d9867eb | yeah they are like 4 users in #debian-kde |
| 21:03.30 | annadane | 84 |
| 21:03.41 | annadane | i said irc.oftc.net |
| 21:03.45 | d9867eb | oh |
| 21:03.46 | d9867eb | ok |
| 21:03.56 | Hijiri | does having to reinstall libreoffice have anything to do with this fancy new splash logo |
| 21:04.15 | annadane | libreoffice 6 from backports? |
| 21:04.25 | annadane | ,v libreoffice |
| 21:04.26 | judd | Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u10; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u9; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u9; jessie-backports: 1:5.2.7-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:5.2.7-1; stretch-backports: 1:5.4.4-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:6.0.0-1; sid: 1:6.0.0-1 |
| 21:04.31 | annadane | oh |
| 21:05.10 | Hijiri | I'm using testing |
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| 21:05.17 | Hijiri | oh I see |
| 21:05.19 | Hijiri | new major version |
| 21:05.40 | annadane | testing, yeah, that's the LO 6 splash screen |
| 21:06.05 | annadane | for future reference #debian is largely for debian stable, testing/unsatble is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:06.10 | Hijiri | ah, ok |
| 21:07.08 | bites | Hijiri: last message is from a few days ago. looks like people are working on the package. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793057 |
| 21:07.09 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/793057 in wnpp (open): «ITP: godot -- open source MIT licensed game engine»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-07-20; last modified: 2018-01-19. |
| 21:09.10 | Hijiri | bites: thanks |
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| 21:09.37 | Rukus | .v deluge |
| 21:09.44 | Rukus | ,v deluge |
| 21:09.45 | judd | Package: deluge on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.3.3-2+nmu1; wheezy-security: 1.3.3-2+nmu1+deb7u2; jessie: 1.3.10-3+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.3.10-3+deb8u1; stretch: 1.3.13+git20161130.48cedf63-3; sid: 1.3.15-2 |
| 21:10.43 | Rukus | using stretch, can i downgrade to a package version from jessie? |
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| 21:11.38 | annadane | Rukus, no |
| 21:11.54 | mum0l | one more question from my side regarding RAID.. After megaRAID installation, I was able to obtain info about my setup. Sadly, I still dont know which hdd (model) is used as a master https://pastebin.com/raw/LVyFKTLM |
| 21:12.16 | annadane | one second |
| 21:12.29 | Hijiri | ah, I actually just remembered that godot wasn't the software I was thinking of |
| 21:12.35 | annadane | Rukus, https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Some_safer_ways_to_install_software_not_available_in_Debian_Stable |
| 21:12.40 | Hijiri | there was something that was packaged in jessie and didn't make it to stretch |
| 21:13.31 | Hijiri | still can't remember what it was though |
| 21:14.00 | Hijiri | oh yeah, it was stepmania |
| 21:14.16 | Hijiri | ,v stepmania |
| 21:14.17 | judd | No package named 'stepmania' was found in amd64. |
| 21:14.27 | Rukus | annadane, great! Thank you. so its possible, just do it safely. i like the DontBreakDebian wiki. i'll give it a read |
| 21:14.45 | annadane | well, it's possible in that there are workarounds |
| 21:14.50 | Rukus | ,v jackett |
| 21:14.51 | judd | No package named 'jackett' was found in amd64. |
| 21:14.58 | annadane | debian doesn't support downgrades from one stable release to another |
| 21:15.03 | Hijiri | no it wasn't stepmania |
| 21:15.10 | Hijiri | I don't think stepmania was ever packaged either |
| 21:15.11 | annadane | Rukus, also, it's better if you /msg dpkg so as to avoid channel spam |
| 21:15.11 | Hijiri | or was it |
| 21:15.24 | annadane | or actually judd |
| 21:15.25 | Rukus | k |
| 21:15.27 | annadane | in the case of ,v foo |
| 21:15.52 | Rukus | sorry to interrupt |
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| 21:17.52 | mum0l | I suppose that PD: 1 is the master in my case as there is info "RAID Level : Primary-1, Secondary-0, RAID Level Qualifier-0" - am I correct? |
| 21:18.10 | JustASlacker | does not compute |
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| 21:28.10 | JustASlacker | raid controller are arcane, dark magic |
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| 21:49.19 | r3 | can confirm, worked at StorageTek. |
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| 22:03.57 | capin | hello ð, recently upgraded from jessie to stretch, and I'm running into issues getting postfix to autostart with systemd ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 22:04.30 | capin | ie. I want postfix to start when the debian box reboots |
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| 22:08.06 | dob1 | I like the emoticons |
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| 22:10.46 | Sia- | hi, have 3 options to install debian on it. 1.usb3 stick 32Gb 2.external usb.2 hardrive 120GB 3. eSATA cable with SSD hard 2.5 . Which one recommended for fast and safe running debian desktop? |
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| 22:21.41 | r3 | well, the USB stick isn't going to last as long (?) as the hard drive, and the SSD is going to be faster than the hard drive, so if it were me, I would install onto the SSD, using the hard drive for bulky items / temp |
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| 22:23.13 | r3 | from the USB stick, using the the net install or small from here: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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