| 00:00.33 | awal1 | i'd see photorec, almost |
| 00:00.59 | awal1 | photorec is part of testdisk |
| 00:01.06 | awal1 | say |
| 00:01.59 | enoch85 | I'll try to be more clear... 1. he extended the iSCSI disk mounted to the Ubuntu VM 2. He rebooted the VM 3. he noticed that there space was still the same 4. he the used cfdisk on an existing partitino (/dev/sdb1) and wrote a new partitino with the same size, 2 TB 5. now the sectors are off, but the disk are still the same size 6- he disn't wrote down the start and end sectors before he made the misstade |
| 00:02.05 | enoch85 | (spelling) |
| 00:03.07 | enoch85 | I've tried gdisk and recover gpt table, but tat didn't help |
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| 00:03.27 | enoch85 | fdisk - shows the partition, but with wrong amount of secotors |
| 00:04.29 | enoch85 | so, what now? Still testdisk? |
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| 00:05.04 | toruvinn | enoch85, so basically you just need to find the beginning of the partition if you know the size. i'd try the usual sizes, like 1MB from the beginning of the disk, stuff like that. but /i/ am lazy and i'd do it with testdisk. if you're afraid you're not forced to save your changes there, you know. |
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| 00:05.46 | enoch85 | so the original partitino was 2 TB |
| 00:06.02 | enoch85 | and the sectors must be exact right? |
| 00:06.13 | enoch85 | so how would you do it with testdisk? |
| 00:06.16 | enoch85 | toruvinn, |
| 00:08.12 | enoch85 | right now it's /dev/sdb1 2048 4252017588 4252015541 2T Linux filesystem |
| 00:08.30 | enoch85 | and testdisk displays 4 TB |
| 00:08.39 | enoch85 | as he extended with 2 TB extra |
| 00:08.44 | enoch85 | toruvinn, --^ |
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| 00:11.00 | jaggz | how do I find what package a source file is in? it's a kde plasma file: plugins/scenes/opengl/scene_opengl.cpp |
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| 00:17.13 | enoch85 | anyway, going with testdisk. it will take some hours, but ok |
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| 00:36.09 | tsukuyomi | good night :) |
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| 01:15.06 | LoursGeek | Heya guys |
| 01:15.13 | LoursGeek | you know that the wiki is down ? |
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| 01:19.44 | Lxrowe | I'll second that, wiki is down. |
| 01:21.37 | Guest8789 | <Guest8789> Hi |
| 01:21.38 | Guest8789 | <Guest8789> Do you know if have a channel Gnome in IRC ? |
| 01:21.38 | Guest8789 | <Guest8789> Im have a problem, i cant erase wich press backspace |
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| 01:23.54 | LoursGeek | @Lxrowe, apparently it's back again |
| 01:24.22 | Lxrowe | Thankyou LoursGeek. |
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| 01:25.37 | luclu7 | confirm, it's up again |
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| 01:25.51 | uxfi | hey folks |
| 01:26.02 | uxfi | LoursGeek; no need to use the @ to adrress someone |
| 01:26.34 | LoursGeek | uxfi, long time i haven't used irc, bad twitter habit |
| 01:26.43 | uxfi | ah |
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| 01:26.47 | uxfi | lol |
| 01:26.54 | uxfi | Understandable |
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| 03:17.51 | donofrio | anyone here heard of a search company called mindbreeze (and by heard of I hopefully mean user there product?) |
| 03:18.21 | donofrio | doesn't feel open source.... ;( |
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| 03:22.26 | dfcnvt | How do you remove the nvidia driver? -- I'm ready to install the new one and yet won't install it unless it removed... |
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| 03:25.48 | annadane | er |
| 03:25.53 | annadane | what do you mean "install the new one" |
| 03:26.01 | annadane | first of all, from where, and second, what release are you on |
| 03:26.19 | annadane | never mind |
| 03:26.39 | jaggz | how do I find what package a source file is in? it's a kde plasma file: plugins/scenes/opengl/scene_opengl.cpp |
| 03:27.11 | jaggz | someone gave me a patch to try to fix my display lock-up problem (I must toggle desktop effects to unfreeze it) |
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| 04:23.43 | jcrowgey | does anyone here have experience using pkg_config to build software? |
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| 04:23.58 | klys | a little |
| 04:24.22 | jcrowgey | I'm wanting to build dunstify from the dunst project, because it's got features that notify-send doesn't have |
| 04:24.30 | jcrowgey | but I can't seem to figure out what to do to build it. |
| 04:24.39 | klys | see /usr/share/pkgconfig |
| 04:24.47 | jcrowgey | https://github.com/dunst-project/dunst |
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| 04:25.20 | jcrowgey | according to the wiki in that project, I should be able to make && make install (as usual) once I've got the dependencies installed. |
| 04:25.49 | jcrowgey | I have the dependencies installed (I believe) but doing make errors out with a message from pkg_config. |
| 04:25.53 | klys | do your dependency libs have .pc files there? |
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| 04:26.12 | jcrowgey | No, I don't believe that they do, they're just debian libs. |
| 04:26.28 | jcrowgey | See here: https://github.com/dunst-project/dunst/wiki/Dependencies |
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| 04:27.47 | jcrowgey | oh, wait |
| 04:27.58 | jcrowgey | I wonder if I cloned the wrong thing last time I tried this. |
| 04:28.24 | jcrowgey | I just cloned that repo again and this time I have a config.mk file that showed up |
| 04:28.28 | klys | jcrowgey, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig |
| 04:28.50 | klys | seems most of them live there |
| 04:28.51 | jcrowgey | I just looked in that file and it has a bunch of configure stuff, I just ran make and voila |
| 04:28.57 | jcrowgey | I wonder what was different. |
| 04:28.58 | klys | ok |
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| 04:29.23 | jcrowgey | does pkg_config try to autogenerate config files upon a git clone? |
| 04:29.37 | jcrowgey | last time I didn't have pkg_config installed when I downloaded that repo. |
| 04:29.54 | klys | git clone will just get the files in the repository. |
| 04:30.02 | jcrowgey | no no, I see the config.mk in the git repo remot. |
| 04:30.22 | jcrowgey | I must have just cloned the wrong thing or had a network error or something. |
| 04:30.39 | jcrowgey | anyway, thanks for the moral support. I think I'm all good. |
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| 04:33.17 | jcrowgey | oh, wait, I guess i'm not completely out of the woods. I ran make and it made dunst, not dunstify |
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| 04:36.42 | jcrowgey | the message is that "package libnotify was not found in the pkg-config serach path". |
| 04:37.08 | jcrowgey | I looed in /usr/lib/x86.../pkgconfig/, as suggested above, I see a bunch of .pc files. |
| 04:37.12 | jcrowgey | How were those generated? |
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| 04:38.26 | jcrowgey | and i see there are even more .pc files in /usr/share/pkgconfig |
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| 04:39.04 | jcrowgey | I'm looking in those pc files, they seem relatively straighforward |
| 04:39.14 | klys | most compliant source trees install a .pc file there |
| 04:39.41 | jcrowgey | aha! |
| 04:39.58 | jcrowgey | I was missing a particular -dev package. |
| 04:40.07 | jcrowgey | I'm good. :) |
| 04:40.24 | jcrowgey | I mean, I'm not very good at this, but my particular problem is now solved. Cheers! |
| 04:40.34 | klys | carry on |
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| 05:52.49 | simbalion | Hi, For some reason I've got some dmo2 packages installed and I want to remove them and switch to stretch packages. What's the least destructive way to do that? I tried a simple remove and it wanted to kill 40 other packages at the same time. |
| 05:54.28 | annadane | simbalion, without some output it's kind of hard to tell in general terms |
| 05:54.35 | annadane | !paste |
| 05:54.35 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 05:54.45 | simbalion | annadane: thanks |
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| 07:15.28 | LinuxNoob2017 | hello, is Debian as easy as Ubuntu to install and use for home use? |
| 07:15.35 | LinuxNoob2017 | for a newbie? |
| 07:16.31 | SwedeMike | LinuxNoob2017: in my opinion, no. I'm sure there would be others that disagree. |
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| 07:17.07 | LinuxNoob2017 | SwedeMike: so, Debian 9 not suitable for newbies? for home users? |
| 07:17.08 | cheapie | Ubuntu is probably ever-so-slightly easier to install (but Debian isn't bad), and they're about the same to use. |
| 07:17.13 | jelly | LinuxNoob2017: no, there's a couple hurdles at installation time, in particular, most laptops require using a non-free installer variant |
| 07:17.47 | SwedeMike | LinuxNoob2017: that's not what I said. Your question was if someone thought Ubuntu was easier, and the answer in my opinion is "yes". It doesn't mean "not suitable". |
| 07:17.48 | LinuxNoob2017 | jelly: is non-free unofficial version of Debian 9 as easy as Ubuntu? |
| 07:18.39 | jelly | LinuxNoob2017: the installer is similar. I don't know if the default Gnome UI is as polished as, um, whatever ubuntu has now. |
| 07:19.08 | LinuxNoob2017 | for someone who has been using Windows, entirely dependant on GUI, needs an OS primarily for home use, is Debian 9 suitable? |
| 07:19.09 | jelly | ubuntu 17.10 gnome+some extra bits, I think |
| 07:19.56 | jelly | LinuxNoob2017: I usually suggest ubuntu first unless you have a linux user nearby to help |
| 07:19.56 | SwedeMike | LinuxNoob2017: I would recommend Ubuntu because it has a higher ratio of people using only GUI compared to debian, where people often use CLI. |
| 07:20.17 | annadane | though this all being said it really isn't hard |
| 07:20.27 | jelly | try both! |
| 07:20.37 | jelly | use each for a month or three. |
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| 07:21.07 | LinuxNoob2017 | ok. As I see on the internet Debian probably has the largest chunk of linux users. |
| 07:21.22 | Stummi | also, (especially as a newbie) your choosen distribution won't make such a big difference as, for example your choosen DE makes |
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| 07:21.50 | LinuxNoob2017 | how about Debian 9 non-free unofficial with xfce? |
| 07:22.35 | SwedeMike | LinuxNoob2017: a lot of the things people write about ubuntu and debian is transferrable between the two. They share quite a lot under the hood. |
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| 07:22.46 | LinuxNoob2017 | and what's your opinion of Debian derivatives like MX Linux and AntiX? |
| 07:23.13 | LoursGeek | Ubuntu is a debian derivative to start with |
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| 07:23.55 | Stummi | LinuxNoob2017, debian derivates, like every distri, raise and fall with their community. Take a look at how big they are, and how actively it is maintained |
| 07:23.56 | SwedeMike | LinuxNoob2017: ubuntu and debian both have resources to do security updates etc. I don't know about those other ones you mentioned, never heard of them. |
| 07:25.09 | LinuxNoob2017 | SwedeMike: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mx |
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| 07:25.17 | LoursGeek | To summarize shortly, yes debian is easy to install & use |
| 07:25.38 | LoursGeek | you could get debian with kde-plasma up & running in an hour or less |
| 07:25.41 | Stummi | and easy to fork, so everyone and their dog feels like to have to make their own debian these days |
| 07:26.15 | LinuxNoob2017 | ok |
| 07:26.15 | LoursGeek | Stummi, sure but that's beside the point |
| 07:26.29 | LoursGeek | ergo, the original question was "how easy it is to install & use" |
| 07:26.43 | LinuxNoob2017 | LoursGeek: can I install Debian with xfce and KDE Plasma DE on it? |
| 07:26.45 | LoursGeek | sorry if i'm refocusing the subject there :) |
| 07:26.57 | LoursGeek | yes, no reason you can't |
| 07:27.09 | LinuxNoob2017 | I have almost downloaded a copy of Debian xfce. |
| 07:27.24 | LoursGeek | the installer should provide you with a choice at the end of install |
| 07:27.49 | LoursGeek | https://i.stack.imgur.com/tJQ3w.png |
| 07:28.01 | LinuxNoob2017 | I chose Debian 9.2 non-free unofficial live with xfce. |
| 07:28.06 | LoursGeek | chose "Debian desktop environment" |
| 07:28.07 | Stummi | LinuxNoob2017, its just whats on the installation medium and what needs to be downloaded during the installation |
| 07:28.14 | LoursGeek | and add the wanted choices |
| 07:28.25 | LoursGeek | and you should be done |
| 07:28.37 | LoursGeek | should a problem arise : run tasksel to chose again |
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| 07:29.05 | LinuxNoob2017 | how many DEs can we install at a time, without creating any conflicts and inconsistencies? |
| 07:29.23 | LoursGeek | as many as you want |
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| 07:29.55 | LoursGeek | the only conflict that could arise in the past was when chosing different session managers such as kdm/gdm/xdm |
| 07:30.41 | LoursGeek | you can switch desktop environment at login |
| 07:30.52 | annadane | well |
| 07:30.59 | annadane | that's sort of a matter of opinion |
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| 07:31.16 | LoursGeek | http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/linux-display-managers-sddm.png?x81309 |
| 07:31.23 | annadane | it kind of depends on the DEs and how you use them; conflicts "can" happen |
| 07:31.28 | LoursGeek | example of how you'll be provided a choice |
| 07:31.54 | DerLG | annadane: know how i was installing onto my laptop? |
| 07:32.12 | LinuxNoob2017 | I intend to install Debian with xfce and KDE Plasma on top of it. |
| 07:32.22 | DerLG | well now it blackscreens after i go through grub |
| 07:32.33 | LoursGeek | LinuxNoob2017, then, just do that and come back if you got issues buddy ;) |
| 07:32.34 | DerLG | even in recovery mode :/ |
| 07:32.36 | LinuxNoob2017 | if a stable Lxqt is available I'll try that also. |
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| 07:32.51 | LoursGeek | DerLG, ctrl+alt+f1 ? |
| 07:33.05 | annadane | xfce is generally compatible with anything, i guess it's the gnome + plasma people that have problems in theory |
| 07:33.15 | annadane | but they're not incompatible fundamentally |
| 07:33.27 | LinuxNoob2017 | ok |
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| 07:33.49 | annadane | also you don't need a DE if you want, there exist window managers |
| 07:34.12 | FluffyCondoms | omg thomas of freenode staff owns channel #child-porn, he is founder according to /msg chanserv info #child-porn |
| 07:34.25 | DerLG | LoursGeek: nope |
| 07:34.26 | annadane | going to bed; too tired to stay up |
| 07:34.54 | Hooloovo0 | nifht |
| 07:34.55 | LoursGeek | DerLG, tried a nomodeset ? |
| 07:35.15 | LinuxNoob2017 | which window manager is intuitive and easy to use for someone who has been using MS Windows? |
| 07:35.16 | DerLG | ahhh i was installing gnome temperarily |
| 07:35.23 | DerLG | was gunna switch to openbox after |
| 07:35.36 | DerLG | think its gnome crashing it? |
| 07:35.46 | LoursGeek | if you cant switch to a tty ... |
| 07:35.52 | DerLG | nope |
| 07:35.55 | LoursGeek | i think it's your card driver fucking you up |
| 07:36.08 | DerLG | hmmm |
| 07:36.24 | LoursGeek | that's why i'd try booting with nomodeset |
| 07:36.26 | LoursGeek | sec.... |
| 07:36.55 | LoursGeek | that'll require you some black magic at the grub level... but not that hard |
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| 07:37.38 | LoursGeek | you can edit the boot entries using "e" |
| 07:37.41 | DerLG | yeah |
| 07:38.05 | LoursGeek | you should have something like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" |
| 07:38.27 | LoursGeek | add nomodeset between the quotes (ergo "nomodeset") |
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| 07:38.51 | LoursGeek | you should boot in raw vga mode then |
| 07:39.16 | DerLG | yeah dont see it |
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| 07:39.37 | DerLG | load_video \ insmod gzio \grub_platform = xxen |
| 07:39.50 | MoRpHyEyS | Hello guys! I've just installed the Debian 9.2.1 from the first DVD and now I want to update the rest of the apps and so on over the internet how can I do that? I've already commented the cdrom line in the /etc/apt/sources.list, but when I try to install net-tools with apt-get install net-tools after executing apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it's saying Package 'net-tools' has no installation candidate |
| 07:40.19 | LoursGeek | hmmm |
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| 07:41.45 | LoursGeek | sec. |
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| 07:43.00 | jelly | dpkg, tell MoRpHyEyS about stretch sources.list |
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| 07:43.33 | LoursGeek | i think you should be able to put nomodeset on top of the file DerLG |
| 07:43.37 | LinuxNoob2017 | can we expect Debian based distros like MX Linux and Sparky linux to be as secure and stable as Debian? I see that they have add so many things to their distros to make them easier for users. |
| 07:43.43 | LoursGeek | let me try on a vbox i got.. |
| 07:44.25 | LoursGeek | err welp nope |
| 07:44.43 | coruja | ,v net-tools |
| 07:44.44 | judd | Package: net-tools on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.60-24.2; jessie: 1.60-26+b1; buster: 1.60+git20161116.90da8a0-1; sid: 1.60+git20161116.90da8a0-1; stretch: 1.60+git20161116.90da8a0-1 |
| 07:45.16 | jelly | LinuxNoob2017: any changes a derivative distro introduces can affect both stability and security |
| 07:46.18 | MoRpHyEyS | jelly: may you help me a bit more |
| 07:46.31 | LinuxNoob2017 | jelly: but MX linux has really positive reviews on distrowatch.com. |
| 07:47.30 | LoursGeek | DerLG, apparently nomodeset needs to be set in a menu file you need to edit... therefore you're screwed unless.... |
| 07:47.31 | jelly | LinuxNoob2017: reviews usually don't focus on long-term effects of changes |
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| 07:47.48 | LinuxNoob2017 | ok |
| 07:48.37 | LoursGeek | ah! you CAN get a single user shell |
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| 07:49.53 | DerLG | LoursGeek: im at the grub cmd line |
| 07:50.37 | LoursGeek | you need to edit /etc/default/grub... |
| 07:50.54 | LoursGeek | trying to see what you got available to edit files... no vi apparently.. |
| 07:51.11 | coruja | MoRpHyEyS, paste your sources.list to paste.debian.net and return the url here |
| 07:51.14 | jelly | MoRpHyEyS: use "su -" or "sudo -i" to open a root shell; use something like "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" in that root shell to edit the sources. Make sure you have the standard deb lines for stretch present, and add them if needed. After saving and exiting the editor, run "apt update" |
| 07:51.22 | jelly | !ask |
| 07:51.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 07:51.49 | MoRpHyEyS | http://paste.debian.net/993688/ |
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| 07:52.05 | MoRpHyEyS | jelly: I've already did that to comment the cdrom line |
| 07:52.15 | MoRpHyEyS | and I've uncommented the update-strech lines |
| 07:52.26 | jelly | MoRpHyEyS: you have security repo twice and no main repo |
| 07:52.27 | LinuxNoob2017 | can we install SAP ERP on Debian 9? |
| 07:52.30 | MoRpHyEyS | stretch* |
| 07:52.42 | LinuxNoob2017 | for educational purposes. |
| 07:52.51 | MoRpHyEyS | ahh my mistake |
| 07:53.28 | MoRpHyEyS | so I need the main repo and everything will be fine? |
| 07:53.40 | mr__tea | https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/ATopics/Supported+Platforms |
| 07:53.50 | jelly | MoRpHyEyS: probably |
| 07:54.17 | MoRpHyEyS | thank you very much guys! |
| 07:54.19 | mr__tea | seems sap only supports oracle linux, redhat and suse |
| 07:56.09 | LoursGeek | DerLG, if there's a way to edit from the command shell, i see the "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""" |
| 07:56.11 | LinuxNoob2017 | can't we even install SAP ERP on Debian? |
| 07:56.21 | LinuxNoob2017 | even for educational purposes? |
| 07:56.36 | LoursGeek | (it has quiet as default parameter) |
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| 07:57.18 | LoursGeek | LinuxNoob2017, https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/ATopics/Supported+Platforms |
| 07:57.37 | LoursGeek | it's doable but... |
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| 07:57.42 | MoRpHyEyS | how can I install several different versions of PHP guys? |
| 07:58.01 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, give up php5 |
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| 07:58.30 | LoursGeek | but you could use php5 as module & php7 as fastcgi |
| 07:58.39 | LoursGeek | it's prone to problems tho |
| 07:58.43 | MoRpHyEyS | I need to use PHP 5.4.45 for old project |
| 07:58.58 | MoRpHyEyS | and I want to have php 5.4.45 and php 5.6 and php 7 |
| 07:59.08 | MoRpHyEyS | how can I achieve that on Linux Debian and on Linux at all? |
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| 07:59.38 | LoursGeek | you could setup an nginx with php5.4.45 / 5.6 as fast cgi |
| 07:59.48 | LoursGeek | if you absolutely need php7 for your apache |
| 07:59.51 | LoursGeek | and vice/versa |
| 07:59.58 | LoursGeek | https://pehapkari.cz/blog/2017/03/27/multiple-php-versions-the-easy-way/ |
| 08:00.18 | LoursGeek | 3 versions of php, you're asking for trouble... |
| 08:00.18 | jelly | MoRpHyEyS: build your own versions of php in separate prefixes |
| 08:00.31 | jelly | not really, but it's not supported by debian |
| 08:00.55 | LoursGeek | and neither by apache/nginx |
| 08:01.10 | LoursGeek | altough nginx will allow him several different fastcgi process |
| 08:01.10 | jelly | (as long as old versions are not used for apps that exposed to public internet) |
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| 08:02.21 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, migrate your old project as soon as you can |
| 08:02.23 | LoursGeek | beside it's not that hard to migrate php5 apps |
| 08:02.26 | jelly | I think both apache and nginx can be set up to use arbitrary number of fpm or whatever, based on directories or virtualhosts |
| 08:02.39 | LoursGeek | apache use a module |
| 08:02.56 | LoursGeek | well, you can use fastcgi too |
| 08:03.05 | LoursGeek | but apache is a little bitch |
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| 08:04.15 | LoursGeek | mod_proxy_fcgi is to be used anyway |
| 08:04.37 | LoursGeek | could be wrong |
| 08:04.48 | LoursGeek | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libapache2-mod-fcgid |
| 08:05.05 | LoursGeek | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=fastcgi |
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| 08:09.10 | MoRpHyEyS | thank you anyway, but do I need to compile php on my own |
| 08:09.16 | MoRpHyEyS | jelly: how to use different prefixes? |
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| 08:12.23 | jelly | MoRpHyEyS: you choose a prefix at compile time |
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| 08:13.10 | jelly | so after building the software installs itself and looks for its files under that one directory |
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| 08:14.29 | MoRpHyEyS | dunno why, but I can't find in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf from where I can change the .php files to be before .html |
| 08:15.04 | LoursGeek | maybe because it's in another config file |
| 08:15.30 | LoursGeek | cd /etc/apache2 ; grep -r ".php" . |
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| 08:16.00 | LoursGeek | if you got a php module already installed you'll get a result :) |
| 08:16.40 | LoursGeek | and for your education : |
| 08:16.41 | MoRpHyEyS | ahh yes it was in the dir.conf |
| 08:16.41 | LoursGeek | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2889744/what-does-the-php-configuration-option-prefix-prefix-do |
| 08:16.46 | MoRpHyEyS | but I've made a mistake |
| 08:16.49 | MoRpHyEyS | I've installed both modules |
| 08:17.14 | cristian_c | hello |
| 08:17.16 | LoursGeek | a2dismod |
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| 08:17.26 | LoursGeek | to disable a module |
| 08:17.26 | MoRpHyEyS | I mean libapache2-mod-php libapache2-mod-php7.0 |
| 08:17.38 | MoRpHyEyS | I will need to disable the php mod right? |
| 08:17.41 | LoursGeek | i think the first one is virtual |
| 08:17.52 | LoursGeek | aptitude show libapache2-mod-php |
| 08:17.55 | MoRpHyEyS | when I've typed grep -r.. it gave me conflict one moment |
| 08:18.10 | cristian_c | when I use mozplugger, opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead |
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| 08:18.17 | MoRpHyEyS | http://paste.debian.net/993690/ |
| 08:18.23 | MoRpHyEyS | may you take a look please? |
| 08:18.31 | cristian_c | How could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files using it? |
| 08:18.42 | DerLG | LoursGeek: i made it to the grub file |
| 08:18.43 | cristian_c | any ideas? |
| 08:18.51 | DerLG | edited it and rebooting |
| 08:19.07 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: -su: aptitude: command not found |
| 08:19.12 | LoursGeek | lol |
| 08:19.19 | LoursGeek | i checked |
| 08:19.24 | LoursGeek | it's a virtual package anyway |
| 08:19.29 | LoursGeek | apt-get install aptitude :P |
| 08:19.41 | LoursGeek | and... no conflict in your pastebin |
| 08:19.41 | MoRpHyEyS | so what is this |
| 08:19.58 | MoRpHyEyS | # Conflicts: php5 |
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| 08:20.06 | LoursGeek | i mean, it informs you it will conflict with php5 |
| 08:20.15 | MoRpHyEyS | I see |
| 08:20.30 | LoursGeek | that's why i told you you'll need to have your php5 as a fast cgi |
| 08:20.52 | LoursGeek | you can also alternatively disable / enable them |
| 08:20.59 | LoursGeek | with a2dismod & a2enmod |
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| 08:22.04 | DerLG | LoursGeek: i got to desktop after putting in nomodeset |
| 08:22.05 | DerLG | thanks |
| 08:22.16 | LoursGeek | DerLG, now need to install proper driver |
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| 08:23.06 | LoursGeek | (and yeah the problem was obvious : either the graphic card fucking up or acpi) |
| 08:23.20 | LoursGeek | (and since modern laptops rarely have acpi troubles...) |
| 08:23.57 | MoRpHyEyS | is there anyway to download php 5.6 deb package from somewhere or deb php 5.4.45 package and install them both to switch between versions? |
| 08:24.29 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, if you look at https://pehapkari.cz/blog/2017/03/27/multiple-php-versions-the-easy-way/ |
| 08:24.42 | LoursGeek | it tells you in the end that there is a docker image that could help you |
| 08:24.57 | LoursGeek | https://gist.github.com/Majkl578/08bb58780344603ad253a9e3b0552eb0 |
| 08:25.13 | LoursGeek | for a php 5.4.45...... |
| 08:25.21 | LoursGeek | hmm |
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| 08:25.42 | LoursGeek | you need .. i don't know... the wheezy package ? |
| 08:25.45 | MoRpHyEyS | am I able to do it with apache/ |
| 08:25.55 | MoRpHyEyS | instead of nginx? |
| 08:26.12 | DerLG | LoursGeek: supposedly ATI HD4330 |
| 08:26.38 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, i'm not sure really |
| 08:26.46 | LoursGeek | with a fastcgi config, yes |
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| 08:27.33 | LoursGeek | DerLG, https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo check that ? |
| 08:28.30 | LoursGeek | DerLG, package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu i think |
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| 08:29.01 | LoursGeek | hmm |
| 08:29.20 | LoursGeek | yep definitively check the wiki |
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| 08:30.31 | LoursGeek | xserver-xorg-video-mach64 |
| 08:30.31 | LoursGeek | xserver-xorg-video-r128 |
| 08:30.32 | LoursGeek | xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
| 08:30.38 | LoursGeek | might need one of these |
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| 08:31.49 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: thank you very much |
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| 08:35.48 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: I've just installed mysql-server and mysql-client, but it didn't ask me for a password |
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| 08:37.16 | LoursGeek | default server has no password |
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| 08:39.28 | MoRpHyEyS | do I need to install mysqlctl? |
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| 08:40.01 | LoursGeek | that or phpmyadmin or whatever you're feeling comfortable with |
| 08:40.15 | LoursGeek | you could use heidisql |
| 08:40.35 | MoRpHyEyS | my mysql server isn't running or at least seems so |
| 08:40.42 | MoRpHyEyS | telnet serverip 3306 telnet: could not resolve serverip/3306: Name or service not known |
| 08:40.47 | LoursGeek | mysql -u root |
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| 08:41.08 | LoursGeek | and hmm |
| 08:41.46 | MoRpHyEyS | tcp 0 0 localhost:mysql 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 10762/mysqld |
| 08:41.54 | MoRpHyEyS | 10762 o_0 |
| 08:41.56 | LoursGeek | if you installed server you can see if it's running |
| 08:42.01 | LoursGeek | service mysql status |
| 08:42.37 | MoRpHyEyS | yes it's running |
| 08:42.55 | LoursGeek | you could connect using "mysql -u root" ? |
| 08:42.58 | bannaji | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user |
| 08:43.23 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: yes |
| 08:43.35 | LoursGeek | then you're set |
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| 08:44.08 | LoursGeek | you need to add a password to root if the server is exposed |
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| 08:45.01 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: I've tried to add password to root with mysqladmin -u root password thepasswordhere |
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| 08:45.12 | MoRpHyEyS | but I can't connect with root and the password using the phpmyadmin |
| 08:45.19 | MoRpHyEyS | mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1698): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' |
| 08:45.24 | LoursGeek | yeah... not like that to set it |
| 08:45.24 | MoRpHyEyS | #1698 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' |
| 08:45.43 | LoursGeek | try without a password first |
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| 08:46.09 | MoRpHyEyS | I've tried already |
| 08:46.17 | MoRpHyEyS | Login without a password is forbidden by configuration (see AllowNoPassword) |
| 08:46.23 | LoursGeek | SET PASSWORD FOR root@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword'); |
| 08:46.39 | LoursGeek | when in the mysql console |
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| 08:47.51 | MoRpHyEyS | Query OK, 0 rows affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) |
| 08:47.52 | MoRpHyEyS | why warning |
| 08:48.22 | LoursGeek | do a |
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| 08:48.27 | LoursGeek | flush privileges; |
| 08:48.53 | LoursGeek | that's only a warning but probably because mysql has multiple root entries |
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| 08:49.15 | LoursGeek | normally if the password is set |
| 08:49.26 | LoursGeek | you wont be able to log anymore with mysql -u root |
| 08:49.38 | MoRpHyEyS | but I still can log |
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| 08:49.44 | LoursGeek | to provide a password, use -p at the end for prompt |
| 08:49.51 | LoursGeek | hmm |
| 08:49.58 | LoursGeek | try running this if it exist : |
| 08:50.01 | LoursGeek | mysql_secure_installation |
| 08:50.32 | LoursGeek | normally this come with mariadb but who knows |
| 08:51.03 | MoRpHyEyS | yes I've got it |
| 08:51.10 | MoRpHyEyS | and entered password there, but still no password |
| 08:51.11 | MoRpHyEyS | o_0 |
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| 08:51.44 | LoursGeek | what the |
| 08:52.00 | LoursGeek | restart mysql ? |
| 08:52.52 | MoRpHyEyS | still not working |
| 08:52.53 | MoRpHyEyS | restarted it |
| 08:52.56 | MoRpHyEyS | but.. |
| 08:53.09 | MoRpHyEyS | dunno in the past when I was installing mysql-server it was asking me for a password |
| 08:53.12 | MoRpHyEyS | during the installation |
| 08:53.19 | MoRpHyEyS | 2 years ago |
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| 08:55.15 | LoursGeek | at worst |
| 08:55.27 | LoursGeek | find phpmyadmin config and allow the no password login |
| 08:55.36 | LoursGeek | then setup a password from there |
| 08:56.03 | jmsbnd | you might need to run mysql_install_db as well |
| 08:56.32 | MoRpHyEyS | mysql-server and mysql-client are installing mariadb.. |
| 08:56.52 | LoursGeek | it should be something like AllowNoPassword |
| 08:56.54 | LoursGeek | err no |
| 08:57.00 | LoursGeek | that's different packages |
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| 08:58.06 | LoursGeek | i personally run mariadb |
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| 08:59.10 | eddiii | Hi, i have a problem using debmirror, is this the right place to ask ? |
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| 08:59.56 | LoursGeek | what's the problem eddiii |
| 09:01.02 | eddiii | hi LoursGeek, the problem i'm having: fetching debian wheezy updates i386 debian-inistaller. the Packages.gz exists but is empty, therefor debmirror skips/ignores that file |
| 09:01.06 | eddiii | thx |
| 09:01.19 | eddiii | maybe i have to add an extra flag ? |
| 09:01.48 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: I've set the AllowNoPassword to true in the config.inc.php in the phpmyadmin and still giving me Login without a password is forbidden by configuration (see AllowNoPassword) |
| 09:02.14 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, the one in /etc/phpmyadmin ? |
| 09:02.36 | MoRpHyEyS | the one in /usr/share =D |
| 09:02.51 | LoursGeek | .... that's probably not the one used xD |
| 09:03.05 | LoursGeek | eddiii, err what's your command line ? |
| 09:03.20 | eddiii | LoursGeek: i can paste it here? |
| 09:03.32 | LoursGeek | i'd use pastebin |
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| 09:03.33 | DerLG | welp i got openbox running |
| 09:03.39 | LoursGeek | paste.debian.net/ |
| 09:03.41 | DerLG | conky, docky, firefox, irssi |
| 09:03.56 | LoursGeek | DerLG, with proper ati/amd driver ? |
| 09:03.57 | DerLG | usbports dont work |
| 09:04.05 | DerLG | LoursGeek: working on that |
| 09:04.24 | LoursGeek | sounds like an msi laptop |
| 09:04.38 | DerLG | LoursGeek: at the least i got the essentials to move foward. its a dell inspiron netbook |
| 09:04.41 | LoursGeek | (sorry msi users but msi is crap hardware) |
| 09:04.42 | vutral | anyone encountering problems like a slow system after upgrading to stretch? |
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| 09:05.05 | eddiii | LoursGeek: https://paste.debian.net/993693/ |
| 09:05.35 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: it's enabled now allownopassword and still giving me Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' |
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| 09:05.59 | DerLG | dell inspiron 14 |
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| 09:06.48 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, but you can still login in shell without a password ? |
| 09:07.19 | MoRpHyEyS | I've just executed CREATE USER 'morphyeys'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| 09:07.26 | DerLG | LoursGeek: root requires pass |
| 09:07.28 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: yes I still can login in shell without a password |
| 09:07.57 | DerLG | oh sry mybad |
| 09:08.30 | jmsbnd | iirc, i had the same issue with maria, did you run that mysql_install_db? i think it fixed stuff for me |
| 09:08.50 | LoursGeek | eddiii, i assume your /path/to exist ? |
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| 09:09.42 | eddiii | yes, they exist. it fails saying Failed to download any Packages files! |
| 09:09.58 | eddiii | all other files download correctly, its just the debian-installer |
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| 09:10.34 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, try dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server |
| 09:10.59 | eddiii | LoursGeek: if you check the url for that debian-installer, there is an empty .gz file, 20bytes |
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| 09:11.31 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: and then? |
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| 09:12.25 | LoursGeek | does it ask you for password setup ? |
| 09:12.39 | LoursGeek | eddiii, tried on a second server ? |
| 09:12.54 | LoursGeek | wait |
| 09:12.55 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: no it's not asking for anything |
| 09:13.04 | LoursGeek | eddiii, method=http |
| 09:13.14 | LoursGeek | and you're querying ftp.debian.org ? |
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| 09:14.02 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, at that point i'd try the procedure as if you lost root password |
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| 09:14.19 | MoRpHyEyS | what's that procedure =D |
| 09:14.23 | LoursGeek | the weird thing : command i gave you to set up the password should have worked... |
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| 09:14.43 | eddiii | LoursGeek: yes. that is correct. is that url wrong ? check methot=ftp? all other sections download fine. let me try that. again thanks, you seem very busy ATM |
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| 09:15.24 | LoursGeek | eddiii, either it's a mismatch in the protocol you want to use... or you need to get another mirror |
| 09:16.01 | eddiii | LoursGeek: gottit, i will try some more. thank you for your help |
| 09:16.06 | LoursGeek | MoRpHyEyS, https://www.vultr.com/docs/reset-mysql-root-password-on-debian-ubuntu |
| 09:16.23 | LoursGeek | eddiii, could also be your local folder structure maybe |
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| 09:17.06 | eddiii | LoursGeek: i give it an empty folder |
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| 09:17.40 | LoursGeek | blah |
| 09:17.58 | LoursGeek | eddiii, https://www.tobanet.de/dokuwiki/debian:debmirror |
| 09:18.14 | LoursGeek | also... in french but : http://wiki.dane.ac-versailles.fr/index.php?title=Utiliser_debmirror |
| 09:18.55 | eddiii | LoursGeek: cool |
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| 09:20.05 | MoRpHyEyS | LoursGeek: thanks brb gonna reboot |
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| 09:36.44 | eddiii | LoursGeek: i tried to run the debmirror command without specified method and with --passive. it connected with ftp, but i receive the same error message Failed to download any Packages files! Also on ftp.de. and ftp.be mirrors, the gz files are empty too on those mirrors. |
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| 09:38.37 | LoursGeek | that's weird :/ |
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| 09:41.15 | eddiii | LoursGeek: yes i think so too. when i fetch other sections all is fine, it just skips that Packages.gz file. i will have to dig deeper. I will try some more things. I thank you for your help. |
| 09:41.39 | LoursGeek | check your connection maybe |
| 09:41.43 | LoursGeek | like, your dns servers |
| 09:42.31 | eddiii | LoursGeek: but i can connect to the url using my browser just fine, and it fetches other files just fine. only that 1 gz file :) |
| 09:43.28 | LoursGeek | i would try downloading a mirror but my connection is small |
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| 09:44.23 | eddiii | the command i pastebinned only fetches some files, not a lot, you can try. but you don't have too. :) |
| 09:44.55 | eddiii | a couple of MB's |
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| 09:56.25 | LoursGeek | eddiii, heh sorry but i'm gona hit the couch |
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| 09:56.32 | LoursGeek | or bed |
| 09:56.46 | LoursGeek | kinda beat after a long night of coding |
| 09:56.49 | LoursGeek | cya guys |
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| 10:05.12 | cr1t1cal | i installed texlive-full and texmaker |
| 10:05.23 | cr1t1cal | but I still get 'no command found' when typing 'latex' into my command line |
| 10:05.23 | indistylo | I installed debian 9 stretch LTS, while installing I checked all desktop environment Gnome, KDE , Cinnamon, with "lightdm" as default display manager, Now I want to switch to gnome3 desktop, How can I fix that? |
| 10:05.32 | cr1t1cal | or 'tex' |
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| 10:06.28 | indistylo | I installed debian 9 stretch LTS, while installing I checked all desktop environment Gnome, KDE , Cinnamon, with "lightdm" as default display manager & Cinnamon as desktop env got installed, Now I want to switch to gnome3 desktop, How can I fix that? |
| 10:06.40 | cr1t1cal | indistylo: please don't spam |
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| 10:07.32 | cr1t1cal | indistylo: i suggest you try to modify the wm your startx/xinit initiates |
| 10:08.02 | indistylo | cr1t1cal, Please read again, some piece of information was missed by me, So i added it. |
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| 10:08.24 | cr1t1cal | indistylo: apologies. |
| 10:08.33 | indistylo | cr1t1cal, No worries. |
| 10:08.42 | cr1t1cal | indistylo: but i suggest you uinstall cinnamon and install gnome3, then modify what your startx initiates |
| 10:08.59 | Epakai | indistylo: lightdm has a session dropdown if i recall correctly, if you want to switch to gdm3 use 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm3' and select it as default |
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| 10:09.57 | indistylo | cr1t1cal, can you please refer some link, where I can read and switch from cinnamon to Gnome3,https://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment this page dont give much info. |
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| 10:10.48 | indistylo | Epakai, could you please elaborate more, What precisely i have to do on terminal to drop cinnamon and install Gnome3 |
| 10:11.09 | cr1t1cal | indistylo: i'm not sure. maybe use xwmconfig or something |
| 10:11.11 | teraflops | cr1t1cal: iirc you want texlive-binaries |
| 10:11.26 | cr1t1cal | teraflops: but doesn't texlive-full cover that? |
| 10:11.40 | teraflops | obv not |
| 10:11.50 | teraflops | https://wiki.debian.org/Latex |
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| 10:12.31 | Epakai | indistylo: you said you already installed gnome. if that's the case i'm assuming gdm3 is installed. run 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm3' as root and it will give you the option to switch to it. You should be able to pick gnome from the lightdm screen dropdown as well if you don't want to switch display managers. |
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| 10:15.49 | indistylo | Epakai, got it, thanks for the pointer, is there some utility like gnome-session-fallback in ubuntu to select between unity/gnome while at login window |
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| 10:18.16 | Trieste | Hello, I've just installed Debian testing on my laptop (X230), and the Fn+F8/F9 key combo to set screen brightness aren't working, it seems I'm stuck on 100% - I'm not even sure where to start with the issue, is it a DE thing, a driver thing, or I just need an utility to listen to those keys and adjust the brightness? |
| 10:18.32 | Trieste | (I'm using LXDE, for completeness) |
| 10:18.41 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 10:18.41 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 10:19.17 | petn-randall | Trieste: Try the channel above, there all the testing/sid users hang out. |
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| 10:19.51 | Trieste | oh, alright! |
| 10:20.15 | nix64bit | I am really enjoying the atom editor |
| 10:20.17 | Trieste | thanks! |
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| 10:20.53 | indistylo | Epakai, cr1t1cal tried doing dpkg-reconfigure gdm3, it says : http://paste.debian.net/993706/ |
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| 10:22.46 | AndChat|644916 | Hi.. using bumblebee-nvidia with nonfree drivers..laptop on battery work ok, but on cord it freezes before lightdm appears with fans making noise..i see bbswitch disabling the gpu on boot as expected on both..how can I fix this? It should work both on battery and cord.. |
| 10:22.47 | Orbstheorem | Hey, is there any way to enable sysrq using the kcmd? |
| 10:23.58 | petn-randall | Orbstheorem: What is "kcmd"? |
| 10:24.15 | teraflops | indistylo: if lightdm is the one you already have enabled, you want dpkg-reconfigure lightdm |
| 10:24.33 | Orbstheorem | The kernel command line (ie. modify boot args in grub) |
| 10:24.38 | Orbstheorem | petn-randall: ^^ |
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| 10:46.31 | cr1t1cal | i tried installinv texlive-binaries |
| 10:46.35 | cr1t1cal | *ing |
| 10:46.44 | cr1t1cal | and the 'latex' command still doesn't appear |
| 10:46.47 | cr1t1cal | although 'tex' does |
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| 10:53.28 | jaxson_ | cr1t1cal, try texlive-latex-base |
| 10:54.15 | jmsbnd | apt-file list texlive-binaries | grep /usr/bin <- latex is not included :) |
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| 10:57.25 | jmsbnd | apt-file search --regexp bin/latex$ |
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| 10:57.45 | jmsbnd | that shows you that it's inside the deb jaxson said |
| 10:58.21 | jaxson | yes .. although I usually like to use apt-file to do the searching of files within pkgs.. |
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| 11:01.29 | teraflops | then I think https://wiki.debian.org/Latex is wrong |
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| 11:04.17 | jmsbnd | it's three years old as well |
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| 11:05.10 | teraflops | yeah my fault for not checking it out, apt-file is the right approach |
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| 11:06.05 | jaxson | the beauty of linux is there is plenty of ways to achieve the same thing :) |
| 11:06.21 | Epakai | which part is wrong? all three of those show up in reverse depends for texlive-latex-base |
| 11:08.03 | AndChat|644916 | Any hint on bumbleblee? On why it freezes..black screen with underscore..now.both on battery and cord...gosh |
| 11:08.06 | jmsbnd | texlive-latex-base doesn't show up for texlive-base |
| 11:08.51 | teraflops | AndChat|644916: can you elaborate? |
| 11:10.12 | teraflops | AndChat|644916: bumblebee is a daemon for running stuff with dedicated GPU, and it looks like youre describing and issue where you do not have xorg session loading |
| 11:10.23 | teraflops | an^ |
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| 11:11.35 | AndChat|644916 | I installed bumblebee following debian wiki..system freezes before showing lightdm login screen...yea I purged and reinstalled nvidia and graphics packages maybe xorg.is.broken..shouldnt bumblebee installation take care of.that? If not what should I install, just xorg? Thank you very much |
| 11:12.03 | AndChat|644916 | I have gtx950m asus laptop if matters |
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| 11:13.32 | teraflops | AndChat|644916: something went south while setting up bumblebee then |
| 11:13.47 | jmsbnd | hah, can't create wiki user to fix it either |
| 11:14.50 | AndChat|644916 | I just purged bumblebee nvidia xorg lightdm packages and reinstalled them.all..at reboot same.thing..how to check.if I'm missing xorg? Ty |
| 11:15.37 | teraflops | AndChat|644916: regarding xorg you do have intel igpu |
| 11:16.13 | AndChat|644916 | Yes this asus laptop.has both nvidia and intel graphics |
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| 11:18.40 | abff | Well don't worry about bumblebee right now, treat it like you're just trying to get X to run with the intel card |
| 11:18.42 | teraflops | jmsbnd: trying to edit wiki entry? if yes, you need to request an account |
| 11:18.58 | abff | once you're into your desktop then get working on bumblebee AndChat|644916 |
| 11:19.05 | teraflops | yep |
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| 11:20.26 | AndChat|644916 | Ok I'm inside rescue shell as root..not sure what to..yea I'm just trying to make it.bootable again using Intel.chip |
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| 11:20.41 | AndChat|644916 | Xorg log and lightdm ones have no errors I see |
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| 11:21.28 | abff | put /var/log/Xorg.0.log into a pastebin |
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| 11:23.35 | abff | AndChat|644916 you can use the pastebinit package to get a link |
| 11:24.05 | AndChat|644916 | Its only 5 lines..'loading sub module glamoregl |
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| 11:24.51 | AndChat|644916 | And 4 more mentions of that like 'glamor opengl accelerated x.org driver based' |
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| 11:26.44 | abff | sounds like Xorg 0 (the default X server and the one you want using intel card) is trying to use the nvidia card |
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| 11:27.13 | AndChat|644916 | Reinstalling xorg bumbleblee-nvidia primus now..lets see maybe its.clean |
| 11:27.19 | abff | you should reconfigure your xorg.conf |
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| 11:29.04 | abff | also I suggest you read the archwiki page about it, it's very good at explaining how to configure it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bumblebee#Installation |
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| 11:30.34 | abff | but I am going to guess that reinstalling won't help, I htink your xorg.conf needs to be fixed it was probably automatically configured incorrectly by something |
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| 11:32.30 | jmsbnd | teraflops: yes, but sending an e-mail for wiki access is too much :D |
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| 11:40.23 | IRC23009 | Hello Guys, i trie to follow this howto https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/C201 but when i restart the chromebook with the sdcard the screen is black |
| 11:40.38 | AndChat|644916 | Mmm boots fine of.laptop is on battery only and with 'acpi_osi="!Windows 2015" flag...weird..xorg works I suppose as now.I'm.at desktop..but why doest boot when powdered by chord? Google.doesn't help me.. |
| 11:40.45 | IRC23009 | libreboot is installed and I can restart with other device |
| 11:41.01 | AndChat|644916 | Boots fine if.laptop..sorry for.typos I'm.on crappy phone |
| 11:41.58 | IRC23009 | I finished the step Now move the SD card to the Chromebook which is already booted with ChromeOS, without problems, but the screen is black after rebooting |
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| 11:58.49 | IRC23009 | any ideas? |
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| 12:00.23 | neops | help me please http://hpics.li/41aeec2 |
| 12:00.41 | abff | IRC23009 sounds like your Xorg server isn't configured properly, can you get into a console? try pushing ctrl+alt+F1 |
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| 12:01.59 | IRC23009 | you meaning during the black screen? |
| 12:03.31 | abff | IRC23009 yes |
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| 12:05.48 | jmsbnd | neops: man grep |
| 12:06.00 | neops | merci jmsbnd |
| 12:06.07 | IRC23009 | ok i will try it and start the webchat on another nb |
| 12:07.56 | abff | neops http://www.regular-expressions.info/ https://regex101.com/ http://www.rexegg.com/ |
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| 12:10.00 | crcrcr | easiest way to setup an encrypted storage drive? |
| 12:10.02 | IRC23009_ | nothing is happening with crtl alt f1 |
| 12:10.07 | IRC23009_ | the screen is still black |
| 12:10.33 | sevu | and crtl alt f2? |
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| 12:10.41 | vutral | kernel 4 is awful |
| 12:10.47 | vutral | everything is so slow |
| 12:10.53 | IRC23009_ | same result |
| 12:10.55 | sevu | eventually you have to press the Fn key too (I don'tknow if chromebooks have that) |
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| 12:14.43 | IRC23009_ | no fn key |
| 12:14.49 | EF`` | hello |
| 12:15.18 | abff | IRC23009_ if you can't get to a console then I don't think it's running at all, but that's beyond my knowledge |
| 12:15.50 | IRC23009_ | but it started from the sdcard |
| 12:16.20 | abff | it turned on yes but you said it didn't boot |
| 12:16.43 | IRC23009_ | i press crtl u to start from the sdcard |
| 12:17.46 | abff | and you wrote a debian live iso image to that sd card right? |
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| 12:18.36 | IRC23009_ | i used this tuturial https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/C201 to put debian on the sdcard |
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| 12:19.31 | IRC23009_ | the boot from a sdcard with other linux distr was successful |
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| 12:19.50 | abff | oh nvm I just read that link you posted it's way more complicated then that |
| 12:20.37 | IRC23009_ | what is missing? |
| 12:20.40 | crcrcr | IRC23009_ did you manage to boot from microsd? |
| 12:21.17 | IRC23009_ | yes i pressed crtl + u and it booted from the microsd |
| 12:21.27 | crcrcr | is it working? |
| 12:21.39 | IRC23009_ | it is powered on but the screen is black |
| 12:21.46 | crcrcr | same |
| 12:21.51 | crcrcr | i think the guide is broken |
| 12:21.56 | crcrcr | go with parabola |
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| 12:22.16 | IRC23009_ | is parabola working with asus chromebook c201? |
| 12:22.30 | crcrcr | yes |
| 12:22.50 | crcrcr | but only with the google kernel |
| 12:23.08 | crcrcr | i think it's the same for debian |
| 12:23.12 | IRC23009_ | is there a working tuturial? |
| 12:23.17 | crcrcr | yes |
| 12:23.49 | IRC23009_ | can you give me the link? |
| 12:24.21 | crcrcr | https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/rockchip/asus-chromebook-flip-c100p |
| 12:24.26 | crcrcr | tested, it's working |
| 12:24.58 | crcrcr | but if you replace the kernel you will get some problems |
| 12:26.30 | crcrcr | if you want more info about #archlinux-arm #parabola |
| 12:26.35 | IRC23009_ | i would like to replace chrome with linux and not just on a microsd |
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| 12:31.11 | IRC23009_ | i would like to install linux alone to chromebook |
| 12:31.19 | IRC23009_ | is there another solution? |
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| 12:32.53 | abff | try the guide again, and check out the reference material at the bottom seems like that guide was compiled from several other giudes |
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| 12:33.24 | IRC23009_ | i tried already the other guides and there are not working either |
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| 12:35.42 | sevu | Are there some LED's blinking? Like the torn on button, or is there an LED which signalises read from the sd card? |
| 12:36.01 | IRC23009_ | the led for the power is on |
| 12:37.16 | AndChat|644916 | Why I get a black screen with _ instead of lightdm login screen? Installed nvidia-drivers, xorg and purged bumbleblee |
| 12:37.38 | abff | AndChat|644916 that means the X server isn't starting using the intel card |
| 12:38.00 | sevu | on,but not blinking, right? (may happen in case of a kernel panic) |
| 12:38.09 | RedSoxFan07 | IRC23009_: I think you'd be better off finding a laptop with the same specs and price. It'll be a lot easier. For a company that uses Linux on its desktops (GooBuntu) and its servers (Ubuntu or Debian?), Google really doesn't seem to want to let people install Linux on ChromeBooks. |
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| 12:38.26 | AndChat|644916 | Underscore thing is not blinking system is frozen..ok abff thanks how do.I make it work? |
| 12:38.50 | abff | AndChat|644916 well start by pushing ctrl-alt-F1 and get yourself into a console |
| 12:38.54 | abff | did you install pastebinit? |
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| 12:39.12 | AndChat|644916 | I think too its because it doest use the Intel.chip..I.have gtx950m I cant get into console.as is.freezed |
| 12:39.23 | AndChat|644916 | I can reboot and go to .rescue.mode |
| 12:39.43 | abff | you should be able to get into a different tty even when lightdm is frozen |
| 12:39.54 | AndChat|644916 | Yes on but.not.blinking sevu |
| 12:40.01 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: I guess it can't be a graphics issue. Nouveau should have been available. |
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| 12:41.37 | AndChat|644916 | Should I purge nvidia and install nouveau? Its xserver-xorg-video-nouveau right? Thanks..will try bumbleblee instead of bumbleblee-nvidia |
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| 12:42.11 | abff | AndChat|644916 forget about bumblebee right now, purge bumblebee and install it after you atleast get lightdm and Xorg to work |
| 12:43.03 | AndChat|644916 | Ok..sorry I'm a bit noob..ok I'm in rescue console now as root..should. I try just nvidia.nouveau drivers? |
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| 12:45.25 | AndChat|644916 | Not.sure which one to install.. 'xserver-xorg-video-nouveau' or '...-video-nvidia' one...guess you meant nouveau |
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| 12:46.27 | abff | AndChat|644916 just remove bumblebee and nvidia everything, remove your /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ,reboot and then reconfigure xorg following https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg#Configure_X |
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| 12:48.34 | abff | also nouveau might be blacklisted one sec I think that can happen in multiple places |
| 12:48.55 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: Whether you want the nvidia one or Nouveau really gets down to whether you want the proprietary one or the open-source one. If you play games, I'd go with with proprietary one because it was made by the GPU manufacturer, who actually knows exactly how the GPU works. Nouveau is good if you just want to use "free software" and aren't concerned about performance. |
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| 12:49.59 | abff | AndChat|644916 I think the blacklist on nouveau will be in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
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| 12:51.00 | abff | RedSoxFan07 he's trying to get bumblebee working but he can't even startx, atm I just want to get localhost:0 working then we can worry about the nouveau/nvidia server |
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| 12:51.47 | AndChat|644916 | I'm ok with nouveau then..purging nvidia also removes xorg and xserver packages..should I install xorg after purging, delete the conf.d file, then reboot ? Sorry. |
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| 12:53.38 | psilar | can anyone here invite me to the #linux or #security channels? |
| 12:53.56 | gpunk | go to ##linux |
| 12:54.02 | gpunk | after registering your nick |
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| 12:54.24 | abff | AndChat|644916 yeah install xserver-xorg-intel (this is an intel i9XX right?) |
| 12:54.28 | AndChat|644916 | Its 2 days I sleep little trying to fix this laptop sorry if I'm dumb but don't know what to do anymore 😕 |
| 12:54.36 | AndChat|644916 | Oki doing now |
| 12:54.58 | psilar | @gpunk how to I register my nick? |
| 12:55.17 | abff | msg nickserv help |
| 12:55.30 | gpunk | with a / in the beginning |
| 12:55.38 | psilar | ty |
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| 12:57.14 | to7a | unable to parse package file / var / lib / apt |
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| 12:59.22 | sevu | IRC23009_, This part of the guide could describe the Stiruation you are currently in: If you are running a newer ChromeOS, CONFIG_VT may be disabled in the kernel. this prevents the creation of consoles and the starting of Xorg from current stable. |
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| 13:01.32 | AndChat|644916 | Ok installed the xorg Intel file, removed /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d directory and rebooted..now black screen after the first.black screen with _ ... system frozen as well cant f2 |
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| 13:01.45 | AndChat|644916 | Damn I'm so unlucky |
| 13:02.20 | abff | AndChat|644916 okay at this point I would say install debian again. Personally I do it from usb using the debian live xfce iso |
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| 13:03.21 | AndChat|644916 | I have 5Tb of files.in home dir...a reinstall.would. be a disaster..maybe xorg is not configured this.time..as I see empty screen |
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| 13:05.13 | JustASlacker | no backup, no mercy |
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| 13:06.47 | abff | This is why I always keep my home directory mounted on a different partition |
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| 13:07.07 | JustASlacker | nods |
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| 13:09.04 | AndChat|644916 | I have backups but still want to fix the system.. |
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| 13:09.54 | AndChat|644916 | Xorg -configure gives segmentation fault ad address 0x0 followed debian wiki |
| 13:10.21 | gpunk | aouch |
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| 13:11.42 | AndChat|644916 | Reinstalling xorg and intel package now..maybe was brojen |
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| 13:11.50 | AndChat|644916 | Broken..sorry on phone |
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| 13:16.01 | AndChat|644916 | Reinstalled without touching configs or doing wiki step..i see empty screen no cursor no anything..lightdm loaded but not shown..is.this empty xorg? I might be near the fix but not.sure.what to do now |
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| 13:20.06 | JustASlacker | empty xorg should be ok |
| 13:20.50 | babilen | That is: No /etc/X11/xorg.conf rather than empty /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d though |
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| 13:24.04 | panga | how can I copy all users and groups from one server to another? |
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| 13:28.09 | JustASlacker | what do you mean? |
| 13:28.19 | JustASlacker | use something like ldap :D |
| 13:29.15 | panga | I have to migrate all users and groups to a new enviroment phys to virt |
| 13:29.33 | JustASlacker | think you need /etc/passwd /etc/shadow and /etc/groups at a minimum |
| 13:29.33 | panga | I'm not sure if copy /etc/passwd, /etc/group & /etc/shadow is enough |
| 13:29.42 | AndChat|644916 | What should be done to have a working system? Install xorg xserver-xorg-video-intel and just reboot? Then.it.shows.nothing on.screen.. |
| 13:29.45 | panga | yes |
| 13:29.45 | JustASlacker | not sure what else |
| 13:30.00 | JustASlacker | what does google say? |
| 13:30.03 | babilen | panga: What do you want to happen if you have conflicts? |
| 13:30.27 | babilen | And what about files that belong to those users? |
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| 13:30.58 | panga | babile: for files I'll use rsync, but I want to avoid conflicts |
| 13:31.04 | panga | babilen* |
| 13:31.19 | panga | otherwise I should create the users again in the new host |
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| 13:42.48 | JustASlacker | why not try |
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| 13:44.21 | AndChat|644916 | If I boot into rescue and startx or start service lightdm it works...I mean display wise but cant login it says failed to auth..that's cause you should not start.lightdm as root and rescue mode |
| 13:44.37 | AndChat|644916 | I guess...any hint on what to.do? Thanks guys |
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| 13:54.41 | AndChat|644916 | Holy shit it works now..lshw -c video shows im.using the intel.chip with driver=i915 |
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| 13:55.14 | AndChat|644916 | Should I do or check anything to ensure it stays in working state? Now.boots perfectly all.works |
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| 13:57.50 | AndChat|644916 | I have installed xserver-xorg-video-intel xorg and xserver-xorg packages for input...no nvidia no nouveau..is.this ok? |
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| 14:12.22 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: It's possible that Nouveau drivers may have been installed automatically. I know mesa drivers are installed automatically. You should check if Nouveau is already installed. |
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| 14:15.26 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: But if it turns out that Nouveau is not installed, then whether or not you should install them gets down to whether or not you want to be able to use an Nvidia graphics card, which gets down to whether or not you play games. |
| 14:15.35 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: Or if you want to use desktop animations (i.e. compiz), it depends on whether or not the integrated graphics - Intel in this case - have enough VRAM to handle the animations. If your computer's integrated graphics doesn't have enough VRAM for animations, then you'll need to use the dedicated Nvidia GPU - assuming it has enough VRAM for desktop animations. |
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| 14:16.29 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: I would mention stuff like image editors and video editors, but a lot of open source video editors don't seem to be able to use GPU acceleration, or if they can, they struggle with getting it to work correctly. |
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| 14:16.40 | jelly-home | AndChat|644916, it's probably better than the setup that did not output a picture? |
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| 14:17.31 | AndChat|644916 | Yeah im a webdev so atom virtualbox and i watch 1080p videos tops..no games or need for gpu...just wanted.to.be sure is stable.now...it seems.no.vesa or.nvidia stuff.is installed now..only intel.package |
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| 14:18.13 | AndChat|644916 | Openbox compiz and.Compton all.work fine it seems |
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| 14:20.18 | crcrcr | Anyone know how i should setup an encrypted storage drive? |
| 14:21.18 | AndChat|644916 | I use zulucrypt with luks container in a file..very easy to use..if.you meant with.gui |
| 14:21.20 | RedSoxFan07 | AndChat|644916: How old is your PC and how old is your Nvidia GPU? |
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| 14:22.09 | AndChat|644916 | Pc is less than a year old gtx950m... asus k550v is.laptop model |
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| 14:23.13 | AndChat|644916 | Should be i7 16Gb ram gtx950m with intel graphics too..there are various models v is Italian one probably |
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| 14:33.52 | theseb | why would chromium-browser start on COMMAND LINE but NOT when click desktop shortcut? How see error msgs of desktop shortcut? |
| 14:34.32 | dax | theseb: Please do not crosspost between #debian and #ubuntu. Use the one that corresponds to the distro you are actually using. |
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| 14:37.19 | theseb | dax: there's a problem w/ dat......i use 'buntu but all the SMART folks are in here :( |
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| 14:37.40 | dax | theseb: Then please use #ubuntu, not here, thanks. |
| 14:38.15 | dax | !ubuntu |
| 14:38.15 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:38.18 | babilen | Or be smart and use Debian :) |
| 14:38.22 | dax | quite. |
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| 14:39.20 | rdz | hey all. i created my own deb package, but it is broken in that the executable it contains is not installed with the execution flag set... how can i fix this in the package sources? |
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| 14:41.59 | MaxLanar | Hi. I want to upgrade from jessie to stretch. I have kinda a lot of packages from jessie backports. Should I delete them all before upgrading ? |
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| 14:43.01 | tw | MaxLanar: if the packages are still in apt, they will upgrade properly to the stretch version. |
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| 14:43.35 | dax | "In general, backports.debian.org only has backports made from testing but with reduced version numbers (apt considers ~ lower than -), therefore the upgrade path from jessie-backports to stretch is safe." ~ https://backports.debian.org/FAQ/ |
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| 14:44.08 | dax | I believe the "in general" is because the jessie-backports-sloppy repository also exists, but not 100% sure. |
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| 14:45.13 | MaxLanar | tw: what do you mean are "still in apt" ? The backport line still present in my source.list ? |
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| 14:45.53 | tw | MaxLanar: when you update your sources.list, just be sure to change all instances of jessie to stretch, including on your backports lines. |
| 14:46.28 | MaxLanar | ok :) |
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| 14:47.21 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: And make sure you change them all. The best way is to use a graphical text editor's Find function. Though, Find&Replace is even better. |
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| 14:47.58 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: Debian really doesn't like it when sources.list has repositories from different branches. |
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| 14:48.32 | n4dir | wether a graphical text editor is the best choice probably depends on the user ... |
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| 14:49.18 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: I'm just saying a graphical text editor makes it easier when you can use the Find feature. Especially for a newbie. |
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| 14:49.37 | SirLagz | RedSoxFan07: You know non-graphical text editors have find functions too... |
| 14:49.51 | DebianDragon | what's the bleeding edge debian version called? (i.e. stretch but daily updates)? |
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| 14:50.05 | tarzeau | !sid |
| 14:50.05 | dpkg | it has been said that sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 14:50.24 | DebianDragon | :) ty lol |
| 14:50.46 | RedSoxFan07 | SirLagz: The only non-graphical text editor I've used is Nano, and I don't know if that has a find function. I never really got around to learning Vim or Emacs. But I'm considering learning about Vim. |
| 14:50.51 | MaxLanar | RedSoxFan07: I'm not that a newbie, I prefer Emacs when it come to text editing ;) |
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| 14:50.57 | SirLagz | yes, nano does, so does vim |
| 14:50.58 | DebianDragon | when you're installing stretch is there a way to gut debian in the process... getting rid of most of the stuff that you don't want (i.e. I do not want a DE or even X server to start) |
| 14:51.01 | tarzeau | RedSoxFan07: mcedit has a find function |
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| 14:51.09 | tarzeau | SirLagz: emacs, certainly too |
| 14:51.15 | SirLagz | tarzeau: of course |
| 14:51.16 | DebianDragon | (*e.g. there but whatever) |
| 14:51.29 | SirLagz | DebianDragon: just choose not to install that stuff? |
| 14:51.32 | dax | nano also, it's ctrl-W |
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| 14:51.58 | RedSoxFan07 | dax: really? nano has a find function? cool! |
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| 14:52.05 | sevu | has nano a fiind & replace? |
| 14:52.12 | dax | yes, ctrl-W then ctrl-R |
| 14:52.20 | RedSoxFan07 | tarzeau: SirLagz: Which is easier to learn? Vim? Or Emacs? |
| 14:52.21 | sevu | cool |
| 14:52.25 | RedSoxFan07 | dax: Cool! |
| 14:52.30 | SirLagz | RedSoxFan07: depends on how much time you want to spend on it |
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| 14:52.41 | SirLagz | RedSoxFan07: I still haven't learnt Emacs yet, but I know rudimentary Vim |
| 14:52.49 | SirLagz | RedSoxFan07: I use nano mostly because that's what I'm used to though |
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| 14:52.55 | RedSoxFan07 | SirLagz: Okay. |
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| 14:53.00 | DebianDragon | SirLagz, thanks just making sure I'm able to do that if desired. |
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| 14:53.04 | tarzeau | i'm waiting for Emacs.app before i use it. or mcedit |
| 14:53.08 | SirLagz | DebianDragon: no problems |
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| 14:54.20 | n4dir | vim ain't that hard to learn, at least not the basics. |
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| 14:54.56 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: I found a tutorial and I've read through some of it. |
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| 14:55.16 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: The three modes of Vim are actually on Linux+ cert, which is interesting. |
| 14:55.27 | n4dir | imho it's worth it (but then: i don't do that much editing. And i never ever tried emacs, which quite some like a lot) |
| 14:56.06 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: Okay, cool. |
| 14:56.23 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: Emacs seems cool, but I think it's more work than it's worth to learn it. |
| 14:56.34 | n4dir | i think, not sure, that at least vi is to be found on any Unix-like OS out there. Emacs i see rather seldom. Might be an argument for vim |
| 14:56.48 | n4dir | RedSoxFan07: same thought here. |
| 14:56.50 | MaxLanar | RedSoxFan07: nah Emacs is really easy to learn, really |
| 14:57.16 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: Yeah. The article I started reading actually mentioned that Vim is on any Unix-like OS. |
| 14:57.19 | babilen | Emacs is wonderful (and comes with a wonderful vim implementation too if you are so inclined) |
| 14:57.54 | RedSoxFan07 | I mainly live in the GUI, so I'd go with Vim. |
| 14:58.08 | MaxLanar | Emacs has a GUI |
| 14:58.17 | MaxLanar | (if you want) |
| 14:58.18 | n4dir | pretty sure i saw .... MaxLanar already said it. |
| 14:58.18 | babilen | Emacs vim is IMHO better and emacs has a GUI |
| 14:58.27 | RedSoxFan07 | Yeah, I know. Vim also has a GUI. |
| 14:58.34 | RedSoxFan07 | At least on Mac anyway. |
| 14:58.53 | babilen | But even if I wanted to use *a* vim, I'd use evil (or spacemacs) rather than vim. neovim is another alternative. |
| 14:59.14 | n4dir | without knowing emacs i assume both are outstanding powerful, and it doesn't matter that much which one, as long one learns it well |
| 14:59.15 | babilen | In the end, org-mode, magit and general emacs awesomeness would win me over any day |
| 14:59.19 | RedSoxFan07 | But I figure I should learn the CLI version of either Vim or Emacs just in case I need a CLI text editor, like on a server. |
| 14:59.52 | babilen | With emacs you just use tramp and edit files on servers using your locally running instance |
| 15:00.06 | n4dir | as far i can tell vim and gvim don't really differ much. The one gets started via "gvim" , the other in a terminal, but the rest seems pretty similar |
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| 15:00.46 | babilen | This discussion is (almost) as old as both of these editors and they are definitely good choices. Having used both extensively I wholeheartedly recommend learning Emacs, but make of that what you want. |
| 15:00.55 | MaxLanar | babilen: I can't live anymore without org-mode wonderfulness |
| 15:01.06 | babilen | aye |
| 15:01.09 | greenbagels | Just pick one and love it |
| 15:01.11 | greenbagels | smh |
| 15:01.32 | babilen | We should probably continue this in #debian-offtopic though |
| 15:01.48 | RedSoxFan07 | babilen: Good point. |
| 15:02.08 | greenbagels | RedSoxFan07: there's no point asking which is easiest to learn, try them and decide yourself |
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| 15:02.39 | RedSoxFan07 | greenbagels: thanks for the input |
| 15:02.48 | greenbagels | All that asking this question does, as everyone can see, is evoke a never-ending discussion of everyone's experience |
| 15:02.51 | greenbagels | np |
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| 15:05.10 | n4dir | looks to me as if everyone agreed that both choices are fine. You don't experience such that often ... :-) |
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| 15:08.02 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: Yeah, there's usually a lot arguing. Like Mac vs Windows. Or Linux vs Windows. |
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| 15:08.52 | RedSoxFan07 | n4dir: Until I got into Linux, I never thought a CLI tool could garner so much passion. An OS, certainly, but not a CLI program. But now I understand. |
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| 15:10.39 | matrix_architect | hello. my cpu frequency stuck 3000 Mhz. what should i do? |
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| 15:12.28 | petn-randall | matrix_architect: How are you checking it? |
| 15:12.54 | matrix_architect | petn-randall, watch grep \"cpu MHz\" /proc/cpuinfo |
| 15:13.02 | matrix_architect | or cpu indicator |
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| 15:14.00 | petn-randall | matrix_architect: Do you have a CPU with a changeable frequency? |
| 15:14.23 | matrix_architect | yes. it can be as low as 800 Mhz |
| 15:14.43 | matrix_architect | it was working |
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| 15:15.21 | matrix_architect | is there a systemd service should i start? |
| 15:15.40 | greenbagels | matrix_architect: it's probably your cpu governor setting / driver |
| 15:15.41 | greenbagels | Or |
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| 15:15.49 | greenbagels | Some process hogging your cpu |
| 15:15.58 | matrix_architect | no hogging |
| 15:16.02 | petn-randall | matrix_architect: What is you CPU load currently? |
| 15:16.05 | petn-randall | *your |
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| 15:16.38 | matrix_architect | petn-randall, %2 or 4 |
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| 15:17.14 | matrix_architect | i think it uses pstate |
| 15:17.28 | JustASlacker | I guess you checked with top? |
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| 15:17.57 | matrix_architect | top, htop |
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| 15:18.35 | petn-randall | matrix_architect: Can you show us the output of "cpufreq-info"? Paste it to https://paste.debian.net. |
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| 15:19.40 | Deflate | 3.16.0-4-686-pae > i can upgrade it to 3.16.49? |
| 15:20.08 | petn-randall | Deflate: What version is that package on your installation? |
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| 15:20.23 | Deflate | 3.16.0-4-686-pae - this is on mine debian |
| 15:20.30 | Deflate | debian 8 |
| 15:20.47 | matrix_architect | petn-randall, https://paste.debian.net/993741/ |
| 15:21.05 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 15:21.06 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-rc7-686 (4.14~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.10-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-2); stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.4-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 15:21.06 | Deflate | because i want to change it and add more tickrate |
| 15:21.07 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
| 15:21.23 | petn-randall | Deflate: That is half of the package name, not the version. |
| 15:22.07 | petn-randall | matrix_architect: "current CPU frequency is 800 MHz." |
| 15:22.15 | petn-randall | matrix_architect: Looks like the other output is buggy. |
| 15:22.20 | Deflate | so @judd |
| 15:22.32 | Deflate | can i update it to some newer version? |
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| 15:22.52 | petn-randall | Deflate: judd is a bot. Can you tell us which *version* number you have? |
| 15:22.58 | matrix_architect | petn-randall, hmm. yeah you are right |
| 15:23.03 | matrix_architect | thanks |
| 15:23.12 | Deflate | how to check it? |
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| 15:23.24 | petn-randall | Deflate: Use "dpkg -l 'linux-image*'" and paste it to https://paste.debian.net |
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| 15:23.58 | Deflate | wait sec |
| 15:24.03 | Deflate | some gay flood me with bots |
| 15:24.04 | Deflate | in private |
| 15:24.20 | petn-randall | Deflate: What makes it "gay"? |
| 15:24.25 | Deflate | [16:23] <bors784> ANOTHER MUSLIM SAND NIGGER ATTACK PLEASE JOIN #/JOIN FOR AN EMERGENCY NAZI MEETING!! |
| 15:24.52 | petn-randall | Deflate: That is unrelated to #debian, this nick isn't in this channel. |
| 15:25.17 | Deflate | yea i know but i tell you wait sec to ignore them because i cannot answer to channel because around 100 are in private :D |
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| 15:25.41 | greenbagels | He's saying do not post it here, Deflate |
| 15:25.48 | petn-randall | Deflate: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/usermodes |
| 15:26.27 | Deflate | ok done |
| 15:26.36 | petn-randall | Deflate: /mode Deflate +gi |
| 15:27.42 | Deflate | https://paste.debian.net/993744/ |
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| 15:29.05 | petn-randall | Deflate: Run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" every once in a while to keep your system up-to-date. |
| 15:29.24 | petn-randall | Deflate: Or install "unattended-upgrades" to get security updates automagically. |
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| 15:29.51 | Deflate | yea but is possible to change the config_hz |
| 15:29.55 | Deflate | or i must install other kernel |
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| 15:33.38 | Deflate | ? |
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| 15:34.28 | RedSoxFan07 | petn-randall: I update every couple days. But I didn't know that unattended-upgrades is only for security upgrades. |
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| 15:36.53 | Deflate | can i overwrite same kernel and change to 1000hz or i need to compile and install newer version of the kernel? |
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| 15:39.39 | petn-randall | Deflate: What does "grep CONFIG_HZ /boot/config*" give you? |
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| 15:41.32 | Deflate | to paste |
| 15:41.34 | Deflate | it here or pastebin? |
| 15:41.50 | Deflate | https://paste.debian.net/993746/ |
| 15:42.16 | petn-randall | Deflate: So the voluntary tickrate is currently 250. Why do you need 1000? |
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| 15:42.30 | Deflate | Because i want to get full usage of cpu and get max fps on gameserver |
| 15:42.54 | gpunk | that wont do that |
| 15:42.55 | petn-randall | Deflate: You now that the performance *decreases* with higher tickrate? |
| 15:43.19 | petn-randall | We're talking about scheduling tick rate, not the tick rate of the game. |
| 15:43.23 | Deflate | this performances with 250hz makes problems, like before i was using 1000hz ubuntu there was no problems with gameserver now it has tick loss rate etc |
| 15:43.41 | petn-randall | !xy problem |
| 15:43.42 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 15:44.29 | Deflate | ok can you tell me is possible to change to 1000hz same kernel or no? |
| 15:44.45 | petn-randall | Deflate: You'd have to compile the kernel yourself. |
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| 15:44.58 | Deflate | So i need to download same kernel and compile it |
| 15:45.01 | petn-randall | Deflate: However, if you tell us about your problem, we might help you with that. |
| 15:45.01 | Deflate | or i need to download other version? |
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| 15:45.25 | petn-randall | Deflate: Whatever your problem is, a 1000Hz tickrate won't solve it. |
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| 15:46.44 | Deflate | Tested same server on other linux debian 7 with 1000hz same gameserver work better on same processor, but on this one with 250hz have problems like when there 30 players the server start lagging and freezing also peoples can not use weapons |
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| 15:47.53 | petn-randall | Deflate: You did proper A/B testing? Meaning *all* the other factors were the same? |
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| 15:48.43 | Deflate | Everything same clean installed debian 7 and clean installed debian 8 just config_hz and kernel version was different same computer used to test |
| 15:48.44 | petn-randall | Deflate: If one server is Debian 7, and the other a Ubuntu, you probably have a thousand different factors you haven't considered. |
| 15:49.11 | petn-randall | Deflate: Between Debian 7 and 8 there are about 40,000 updated packages. |
| 15:49.17 | petn-randall | Deflate: What game server is this? |
| 15:49.21 | Deflate | Counter strike |
| 15:49.33 | petn-randall | Deflate: CS:GO or 1.6? |
| 15:49.35 | n4dir | for a while folks at forums.debian.net were in love with a kernel called "liquorix" or similar. I can't say much more about it (but i think it came with 1000Hz) |
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| 15:50.18 | petn-randall | Deflate: I'd update to Debian stretch first, then consider using CPU pinning. |
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| 15:51.45 | petn-randall | Deflate: The tick rate for the kernel only defines how small the timeslots are for each process that wants to run on the CPU. If there is only one process to run, the kernel will automatically switch to a lower frequency. And context switch cost performance, meaning that is will only run slower with a higher kernel tick rate. |
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| 15:52.30 | Deflate | In cs server you can set in config to use more tickrate than 250 |
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| 15:53.30 | petn-randall | Deflate: The server tick rate is irrelevant for the kernel tick rate! |
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| 15:53.52 | petn-randall | Deflate: If you set a server tick rate for 1000 Hz, it will run with 1000 Hz just fine. |
| 15:54.00 | petn-randall | Regardless of the kernel tick rate. |
| 15:56.06 | petn-randall | Deflate: The kernel tick rate is about _context switches_. It's important that you understand what that means. |
| 15:56.46 | petn-randall | Which, other than a similar sounding name, has *nothing* to do with the game server tick rate. |
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| 15:57.23 | Deflate | ok now i will update it to last like you asid |
| 15:57.24 | Deflate | said* |
| 15:57.26 | petn-randall | Deflate: If you want to have better performance, consider using CPU pinning to give one core exclusively to the game server daemon. |
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| 16:01.09 | Deflate | i have 10 cores |
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| 16:01.55 | petn-randall | Deflate: Say there are processes "A" and "B" that both need to use the CPU fully. With a kernel tick rate of 1000 Hz, the kernel scheduler will switch back and forth between both processes 1000 times a second. Each context switch will cost you a few percent performance. If process B is completely idle, process A will run at 100% CPU without any context switches, no matter what CONFIG_HZ says. |
| 16:02.44 | petn-randall | Deflate: A higher CONFIG_HZ will give you lower performance, but a higher responsiveness when running several competing processes on the same core. However, this is not what you want on a game server. |
| 16:02.50 | Deflate | yea but from 10cores i have only one gameserver and nothing other |
| 16:02.53 | Deflate | so gameserver have problems |
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| 16:03.18 | petn-randall | Deflate: Those are unlikely related to CONFIG_HZ, but hard to say without knowing any details. |
| 16:03.41 | rhizome | ugh, is vim returning "Sorry, the command is not available..." errors from .vimrc because i have vim 8 now? |
| 16:03.57 | petn-randall | ,v vim |
| 16:03.58 | judd | Package: vim on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:7.3.547-7; wheezy-security: 2:7.3.547-7+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 2:7.4.488-3~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; jessie: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u3; stretch: 2:8.0.0197-4+deb9u1; buster: 2:8.0.1144-1+b1; sid: 2:8.0.1226-1 |
| 16:04.28 | rhizome | i'll take that as a maybe |
| 16:04.48 | petn-randall | rhizome: Hard to say without any |
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| 16:04.50 | petn-randall | !context |
| 16:04.50 | dpkg | Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net. |
| 16:05.04 | n4dir | mv ~/.vimrc ~/.vimrc_backup should give clarification |
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| 16:06.43 | rhizome | the context is errors complaining about previously-basic settings like "filetype on" and "syntax on" |
| 16:07.34 | rhizome | errors on vim startup, that is |
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| 16:08.22 | n4dir | i wouldn't assume there are major changes (but what do i know) |
| 16:08.40 | rhizome | i wouldn't either, yet here i am ;) |
| 16:09.16 | n4dir | perhaps ask in #vim |
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| 16:09.38 | n4dir | *if* no one here can come up with something useful. |
| 16:09.42 | rhizome | heh, yeah. there's like six ppl in there, but i'll try. |
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| 16:11.05 | RedSoxFan07 | rhizome: Actually, there are 1,193 people in there |
| 16:11.31 | rhizome | well that's odd. let's see what i tried to join before! |
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| 16:12.25 | rhizome | same! weird, maybe netsplit at that moment? :/ |
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| 16:12.56 | rhizome | anyway, thanks, i'll try there :) |
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| 16:20.22 | Trel | clearall |
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| 16:20.32 | 3NAABS3BX | i can't find a guide on how to encrypt drives >.< |
| 16:20.33 | Trel | sorry, missed the slash, ignore me |
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| 16:22.19 | MaxLanar | 3NAABS3BX: you can use cryptsetup |
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| 16:22.34 | MaxLanar | pretty wonderful tool when it comes to encrypting drives |
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| 16:23.10 | 3NAABS3BX | MaxLanar got any guides on how to use it? |
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| 16:26.02 | 3NAABS3BX | should i just run cryptsetup luksFormat <device>? |
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| 16:28.24 | MaxLanar | 3NAABS3BX: not any particular one in mind. The man page and cryptsetup website are good stops though. They are also a tons of tutorial on the web. Maybe you should read two or three in order to get to understand how that tool works |
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| 16:29.38 | anonit | Hello, Avahi seems to occasionally use 100% of my CPU, is there a way to prevent this? Debian 9 |
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| 16:30.41 | MaxLanar | 3NAABS3BX: this is a must-read : https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/wikis/FrequentlyAskedQuestions |
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| 16:31.06 | anonit | Hello, Avahi seems to occasionally use 100% of my CPU, is there a way to prevent this? Debian 9 |
| 16:31.12 | anonit | Sorry for double send |
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| 16:34.39 | LiENUS | anonit, are you using avahi? |
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| 16:40.23 | anonit | LiENUS: I'm not sure, isnt it needed for networking? |
| 16:40.31 | anonit | LiENUS: I did not install it manually |
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| 16:41.37 | LiENUS | avahi is like bonjour |
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| 16:43.05 | anonit | LiENUS: So do I need it besides finding printers? |
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| 16:43.56 | LiENUS | i believe avahi can support discovery of far more than just printers |
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| 16:44.35 | LiENUS | are you running cups? |
| 16:45.09 | anonit | LiENUS: cups does appear to be running |
| 16:45.21 | LiENUS | are you using it? |
| 16:45.36 | LiENUS | uninstalling avahi will probably necessitate removing cups |
| 16:45.46 | MaxLanar | I have a dvd of debian stretch amd64. I added it in my sources.list. Now aptitude update complain that it can't find "file:/media/cdrom/dists/stretch/main/binary-i386/Packages" and "file:/media/cdrom/dists/stretch/contrib/binary-i386/Packages". I am on a 64bit box. What is the issue here ? |
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| 16:46.21 | gpunk | did you mount the DVD |
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| 16:46.32 | gpunk | did it get mounted automaticaly? |
| 16:47.00 | gpunk | can "ls" that file ? |
| 16:47.00 | anonit | LiENUS: Would I be able to print from my laptop if I remove CUPS? I haven't done any printing so I may not even need it just curious |
| 16:47.16 | rhizome | MaxLanar: use cdrom: instead of file: |
| 16:47.16 | EF``` | Does this make sense to anyone "ioctl error in smb2_get_dfs_refer rc=-2"? A CIFS error since upgrading to 4.13.* with vers=3.0 set but can no longer write to the remote volume and all files are shown as root:root. |
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| 16:48.14 | rhizome | EF```: have you tried #samba (or whatever the channel might be called)? |
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| 16:48.56 | AndChat|644916 | Shit...I rebooted and again black screen I'm.crying |
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| 16:49.37 | AndChat|644916 | Makes no sense..now trying to reinstall.video packages.again I'm so sad for real.why to.me |
| 16:49.51 | EF``` | Think it is a kernel thing but wondered if anyone had seen/come across the error. It appears to be something to do with removal of SMB1 from the kernel but a decent search has me more mystified than before. |
| 16:49.56 | AndChat|644916 | My life is a disaster and now even this |
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| 16:50.22 | MaxLanar | gpunk: I mounted it manually. I can ls the folder. rhizome : I'v got weird errors with cdrom: : the mount point getting automatically unmounted, aptitude complaining I should use apt-cdrom in order to add the media (wich I did)... |
| 16:51.01 | gpunk | sorry I have to go, good luck MaxLanar |
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| 16:52.43 | MaxLanar | the mount command I used : mount /path/debian9.iso /media/cdrom/ -o loop -t iso9660 |
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| 16:53.22 | kryl | hi, I don't really understand but with "debian/stretch" emulated through qemu and using docker -yes I did it- I have the following error in a loop : https://pastebin.com/0d5g7B0K |
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| 17:01.24 | LiENUS | anonit, i probably wouldnt remove cups, you can do systemctl disable avahi-daemon and it will stop avahi from running |
| 17:01.30 | LiENUS | shouldnt interfere with cups to just disable avahi |
| 17:01.35 | LiENUS | other than printer autodiscovery |
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| 17:01.54 | LiENUS | i bet avahi isnt working anyway |
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| 17:02.58 | anonit | LiENUS: interesting they have it included. Odd |
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| 17:03.01 | anonit | Thanks for the he;p |
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| 17:05.22 | LiENUS | i had to make some changes on avahi, resource limits, otherwise it kept restarting over and over |
| 17:05.44 | LiENUS | i believe debian 9 fixed those issues, but i havent moved my print server over yet so cant confirm, if it didnt fix it then thats likely the issue you're seeing |
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| 17:07.07 | anonit | I'm on Debain 9 that's where I'm getting the issue haha |
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| 17:12.14 | LiENUS | yeah i dont know for sure that it was fixed, i believe it was on the bug tracker as fixed in 9 but its been a while since i looked and like i say even if the bug tracker said that, i havent personally confirmed it on my system |
| 17:12.21 | TimeTraveler | hi. anyone here use qtox or tox client? or is matrix better?' |
| 17:12.25 | TimeTraveler | what about for video fchat |
| 17:12.35 | LiENUS | im moving away from running services natively anyway, i'll never end up running avahi on a native debian system anyway, containers 4 lyf |
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| 17:14.17 | OS-33561 | can i ask window base questions? |
| 17:14.19 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: I tried tox once but had some trouble getting it going. I switched over to Telegram. |
| 17:14.33 | TimeTraveler | telegram? |
| 17:14.37 | TimeTraveler | that support vid chat? |
| 17:14.53 | RedSoxFan07 | anonit: Which branch of Debian are you running? |
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| 17:15.35 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Telegram does text and voice chat. It doesn't do video chat, at least not yet anyway. It might suport video chat sometime in the future. |
| 17:15.36 | TimeTraveler | i dont run non free software |
| 17:15.40 | TimeTraveler | and telegram is not free |
| 17:15.49 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: It is now. |
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| 17:16.18 | TimeTraveler | i thas binary blobs in it |
| 17:16.28 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: It used to have binary blobs. |
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| 17:17.58 | anonit | RedSoxFan07: I'm running the stable version of stretch |
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| 17:18.43 | RedSoxFan07 | anonit: Stretch is the stable version. There is no unstable or testing version of Stretch. There's OldOldStable, OldStable, Stable, Testing, and Unstable. |
| 17:18.46 | TimeTraveler | telegram accounts are tied to mobile phone numbers |
| 17:18.50 | TimeTraveler | i dont need that |
| 17:19.06 | anonit | RedSoxFan07: Then just stable |
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| 17:19.19 | RedSoxFan07 | anonit: Currently: Jessie is OldStable, Stretch is Stable, Buster is Testing, and Sid is always Unstable. |
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| 17:19.27 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: good point. |
| 17:19.36 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: For video chat, there's always Ring. |
| 17:19.45 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Ring is fully free software. |
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| 17:20.59 | anonit | RedSoxFan07: Well yes I'm on stable |
| 17:23.48 | TimeTraveler | ring looks interesting |
| 17:23.49 | RedSoxFan07 | anonit: gotcha |
| 17:24.09 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Yeah, it is. It's GNU software. Well, that's what it says. |
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| 17:24.42 | TimeTraveler | im working on a free project myself |
| 17:24.51 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Cool! Which one? |
| 17:24.57 | TimeTraveler | i havent released it yet |
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| 17:25.09 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Okay |
| 17:25.17 | TimeTraveler | once i get a half working version ill release. gpld of course |
| 17:25.25 | TimeTraveler | part of it is to put my company out of business :) |
| 17:25.26 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Okay, cool. |
| 17:25.33 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: TimeTraveler: What's your program called && what does it do? |
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| 17:26.03 | TimeTraveler | document management and esignatures |
| 17:26.49 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: super cool! |
| 17:27.19 | TimeTraveler | yaah RedSoxFan07 :D |
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| 17:29.29 | TimeTraveler | i dont have a name for it yte |
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| 17:30.37 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Oh, okay. |
| 17:31.02 | RedSoxFan07 | How about DocManEsig? |
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| 17:31.34 | TimeTraveler | hmm |
| 17:31.37 | TimeTraveler | not bad |
| 17:31.44 | TimeTraveler | but needs more of a ring i think |
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| 17:32.54 | TimeTraveler | like scribus has a sweet ring |
| 17:33.27 | MaxLanar | OK, so I've added that debian stretch amd64 iso file to my sources.list on my 64bit debian box. apt update seem to take it into account but complain that it can't find "cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 9.2.1 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20171013-13:09]/dists/stretch/main/binary-i386/Packages" (and the same path with contrib instead of main too). Those folders don't exist in the cdrom in the first place (seems normal since it's for |
| 17:33.27 | MaxLanar | amd64 cpu). Why apt is looking for i386 packages ?? |
| 17:34.09 | RedSoxFan07 | TimeTraveler: Yeah, scribus does have a nice ring |
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| 17:34.56 | Meerkat | I added another disk to my RAID setup. The original disks have the type "Linux raid auto" while the new one has only "Linux" as type. Will this cause any issues? Should I switch the last disk to the same as the original ones? |
| 17:35.01 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: I actually comment out the cdrom so apt doesn't keep relying on a CDRom that I won't leave in the disc drive. |
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| 17:36.18 | MaxLanar | I *need* apt to use that cdrom. My connection is far too slow to upgrade over internet ! |
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| 17:39.25 | MaxLanar | Found a fix. I needed to add [ arch=amd64 ] to the cdrom line in my source.list |
| 17:39.37 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: okay, cool. |
| 17:39.46 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: how fast is your internet connection and where do you live? |
| 17:40.18 | MaxLanar | How *slow* my internet connection is you mean ? |
| 17:40.29 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: Yeah |
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| 17:40.50 | MaxLanar | something like 60kB/s download |
| 17:40.57 | MaxLanar | max |
| 17:41.26 | MaxLanar | I'm in the countryside, that's why |
| 17:42.38 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: Damn that's slow! |
| 17:42.46 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: Which country are you in? |
| 17:42.56 | MaxLanar | France |
| 17:43.09 | MaxLanar | verrryyy slow indeed |
| 17:43.12 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: I never new parts of France had such slow speeds. |
| 17:43.31 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: I assumed European countries had fast Internet connections. |
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| 17:44.10 | RedSoxFan07 | MaxLanar: I live in Connecticut (USA) and my Internet connection is 45 mbps up and 5 mbps down. |
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| 17:45.38 | Meerkat | what do you expect with a state is called CONNECTicut. |
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| 17:46.33 | MaxLanar | Meerkat: hihi |
| 17:47.01 | MaxLanar | I dream at night of a connection that fast |
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| 17:48.28 | MaxLanar | In france it's not fast everywhere indeed. And I have a 60KB/s download speed on my wired connection at home, but if I step outside I get 5 MB/s download speed with my data plan on my android device... crazy isn'it ? |
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| 17:55.56 | MaxLanar | I just threw a "apt-get upgrade". Despite the cdrom I still have 100 MB to fetch... ETA : 30 minutes (while I can't browse the web or do anything bandwidth intensive) |
| 17:56.03 | MaxLanar | :) |
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| 18:09.04 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 18:40.21 | edi | i did a stretch fresh install, and it comes with kdeconnect. But it seems I'm unable to disable it. Any ideas? I tried service kdeconnect(d) stop, but without luck |
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| 18:41.06 | greenbagels | have you tried via systemctl |
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| 18:51.48 | torin___ | Hi |
| 18:52.15 | torin___ | What is up |
| 18:52.49 | torin___ | \channel #lounge |
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| 19:39.15 | jhutchins_wk | edi: Documentation recommends killall -9 kdeconnectd |
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| 19:43.22 | menace | is there any debian package which is a LITTLE c++ library which shows what the standard way for packaging libraries is? i tried a few and they all seem really klunky.. and the modern debhelper usually does not need much of my stuff... |
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| 20:02.48 | MaxLanar | I'v upgraded succesfuly a debian box from jessie to stretch. Should I reboot it (I use it as a server) ? |
| 20:04.30 | sh00p | it wont load the new kernel before you do afaik |
| 20:04.56 | Meerkat | you might as well |
| 20:05.25 | anonnumberanon | How to know which display driver is running my screen right now? Nvidia or nouveau? I had Nouveau and just tried to install Nvidia. |
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| 20:07.41 | jhutchins_wk | var/log/Xorg.0.log (very noisy). |
| 20:07.47 | kion42 | anonnumberanon, Not sure, but I would have run xlgears before and after, you should see a nice increase in fps, otherwise why bother using the Nvidia driver... |
| 20:09.55 | kion42 | anonnumberanon, also if you are running Nvidia you should be able to open the Nvidia X server settings, and have all sorts of information on your card there |
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| 20:10.45 | gunchyo | Hi, just wondering about loading ATSC capture cards. I managed to load firmware properly, but get this message alongside |
| 20:10.51 | gunchyo | Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted, signature = 0x0, cmd = PING_F |
| 20:10.58 | gunchyo | *PING_FW |
| 20:11.00 | gunchyo | any concern if the firmware loads properly otherwise? |
| 20:11.04 | gunchyo | thanks |
| 20:11.56 | vegenaise | any help on how to kill a proccess (deluge) in either the terminal or with htop? |
| 20:12.21 | FinalX | find the process id, then just use: kill <id> |
| 20:12.23 | sh00p | pkill deluge |
| 20:12.27 | FinalX | or kill -9 if it won't die |
| 20:12.30 | FinalX | or that |
| 20:12.46 | eck | or 'k' in htop |
| 20:13.28 | anonnumberanon | kion42, glxgears shows 100 times more fps now that I've switched the bios to only GPU. The resolution has decreased from 1920*1080 to 1280*1024. |
| 20:13.32 | vegenaise | pkill worked thanks everyone :) |
| 20:13.37 | anonnumberanon | It's absolutely horrible. |
| 20:16.15 | anonnumberanon | Even worse. I just restarted the computer. The resolution came back to 1920 and the frame rate went back down. |
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| 20:21.12 | Satou | Hey guys, i have a script that's supposed to run everytime i boot up on debian 8.9. Sometimes it doesn't. I've placed the script in init.d, did update-rc.d, but sometimes the script just wont work |
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| 20:21.47 | petn-randall | !doesnt work |
| 20:21.47 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 20:23.35 | Satou | petn-randall, Sometimes the script does not do what it should do. It is a simple script that uses ifconfig to get one of my wifi interfaces down, macchanger to randomize a mac address and then to get that interface back up. If i execute it manually it will run. Sometimes when i boot up it executes on startup, sometimes it does not. |
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| 20:24.28 | petn-randall | Satou: macchanger already comes with an ifup hook that does just that. No need to do it with your own script. |
| 20:24.57 | petn-randall | Satou: My guess is that the LSB headers aren't correct, and there is some race condition with other services touching the wifi interface. |
| 20:25.03 | Satou | the syntax i'm using is macchanger -r wlan1. |
| 20:25.22 | Satou | petn-randall, I did not add any LSB tags, but doesn't that just generate warnings? |
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| 20:25.52 | somiaj | systemd I think completely ignores init.d/ scripts that don't have LSB headers |
| 20:26.01 | somiaj | but I could be wrong on that part. |
| 20:26.21 | Satou | somiaj, that would not realy explain why sometimes it runs the script and sometimes doesnt |
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| 20:26.34 | somiaj | also on debian 8, update-rc.d won't help much, this is a systemd thing and how systemd reads the init script and tries to order it in its bootup |
| 20:27.11 | somiaj | Satou: yea, maybe systemd does run scripts without headers, but it might juts run it as soon as it gets to it. Though as petn-randall suggested, maybe just use an interfaces hook for this over writing your own script. |
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| 20:28.50 | Satou | somiaj, I don't know how to do that, could you help me? |
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| 20:29.07 | gunchyo | how come there's like... |
| 20:29.11 | gunchyo | constant HDD activitiy light |
| 20:29.18 | gunchyo | what is happening, this is a clean build? |
| 20:29.45 | annadane | you can probably run top to find out |
| 20:30.14 | somiaj | Satou: |
| 20:30.27 | gunchyo | iotop shows... ext4lazyinit |
| 20:30.40 | gunchyo | and jbd2/sda1-8 |
| 20:30.41 | somiaj | Satou: what do you use to manage your interface? If you aren't using /etc/network/interfaces then mayb esee if the tool you have allows pre-up hooks |
| 20:30.42 | gunchyo | what... is that |
| 20:32.47 | Satou | somiaj, I do use /etc/network/interfaces. Should i edit that file and make it run my script? |
| 20:32.52 | gunchyo | jbd2 seems to be doing most of the writing, what is going on? |
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| 20:34.09 | somiaj | Satou: ask petn-randall, they may better know what hook you need to put in the interfaces file. But if using the interfaces file you should just use that and not write your own script. |
| 20:34.36 | Satou | somiaj, I see, thank you! :) |
| 20:36.01 | somiaj | manpages may help, but it sounds like you can just add a config into the interfaces file to also do the mac change when it brings up the interface |
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| 20:41.25 | jhutchins_wk | !rc.local |
| 20:41.25 | dpkg | /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>. |
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| 20:46.35 | jhutchins_wk | I thought we had a systemd update for that. |
| 20:47.38 | Satou | jhutchins_wk, Could i use rc.local to do that? |
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| 20:47.53 | Satou | I remember using that a while ago for something on my raspberry pi, but very vaguely |
| 20:47.56 | jhutchins_wk | Satou: What you can do is check the return code on that command and give some indicator (wall?) of whether it succeeded or failed. Write a log. Use crontab to @startup & get email. |
| 20:48.33 | jhutchins_wk | Satou: You probably could use rc.local, but I think there's a new process for systemd. |
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| 20:49.03 | Satou | what's weird is that it's sometimes working and sometimes not, i will try using systemd |
| 20:49.05 | somiaj | I think in this case you can just add a line to the interfaces file, check out /usr/share/doc/packagename for the macchange package you are using. |
| 20:49.07 | Satou | i mean rc.local |
| 20:49.28 | somiaj | but petn-randall who said that was possible got all quiet and I don't know the sofware well enough to give an difentive answer |
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| 20:50.36 | Satou | somiaj, There is a way of setting a hwaddress in the interfaces file, but it's for setting the same one every time. I'm thinking about how to just run that command on bootup |
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| 20:55.52 | jhutchins_wk | I wonder if he thinks setting a random MAC has some sort of security benefit? |
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| 20:56.49 | Satou | Well using /etc/rc.local didnt really work |
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| 21:00.05 | tw | I think you have to turn rc-local on if you're using systemd <.< |
| 21:00.23 | tw | as in systemctl enable rc-local |
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| 21:02.18 | petn-randall | Hmpf, they left. |
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| 21:02.53 | tw | someday I will learn to check these things. |
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| 21:15.00 | gunchyo | Hey, how do I build from source to a .deb? |
| 21:15.39 | petn-randall | gunchyo: Really depends. Is your source already debianized? |
| 21:15.55 | gunchyo | there is already an official debian package built |
| 21:16.03 | gunchyo | so... perhaps? |
| 21:16.09 | gunchyo | it's libtorrent |
| 21:16.14 | petn-randall | gunchyo: Then just run 'debuild' in the source directory. |
| 21:16.37 | gunchyo | wish I had the original command |
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| 21:18.23 | gunchyo | aha, found them :D |
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| 21:20.47 | annadane | kind of an obscure question but has the method for validation of iso checksums changed since wheezy? |
| 21:21.04 | annadane | mainly, i'm wondering whether the advice on https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138603/how-to-verify-debian-iso-integrity still holds true |
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| 21:21.50 | annadane | to me that does look correct but just making sure |
| 21:23.38 | gunchyo | "apt-get -b source packagename" ?? petn-randall |
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| 21:25.01 | __key__ | hey guys |
| 21:25.09 | __key__ | my boss wants me to setup a debian server by friday |
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| 21:25.18 | __key__ | wondering where to download debian for windows |
| 21:25.19 | __key__ | ? |
| 21:25.23 | __key__ | waiting for the link.... |
| 21:25.36 | gunchyo | What |
| 21:25.41 | gunchyo | debian... for windows? |
| 21:25.46 | __key__ | did I stutter? |
| 21:25.50 | gunchyo | Do you mean... Debian for a VM? For VMWare? For Virtualbox? |
| 21:25.58 | gunchyo | are you familiarw ith Debian? With Linux? |
| 21:26.04 | gunchyo | I don't think there... is... debian for windows |
| 21:26.05 | __key__ | no I mean I have windows 10 and want to install this debian program |
| 21:26.12 | __key__ | u know, like setup.exe |
| 21:26.13 | annadane | __key__, do you have internet access? |
| 21:26.13 | gunchyo | debian is an operating system |
| 21:26.25 | gunchyo | how is he connected to irc if not lol |
| 21:26.26 | __key__ | annadane: yes I do! |
| 21:26.38 | __key__ | annadane: do you? |
| 21:26.43 | annadane | __key__, then https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst will work just fine |
| 21:26.48 | __key__ | still waiting for the link.... |
| 21:26.50 | annadane | use win32diskimager to transfer it to your install medium |
| 21:27.08 | __key__ | wtf |
| 21:27.11 | gunchyo | I don't think that's what he wants but I'm probably wrong lmao |
| 21:27.13 | __key__ | where can i download a setup.exe |
| 21:27.19 | gunchyo | __key__ are you a troll |
| 21:27.21 | gunchyo | or are you serious |
| 21:27.25 | gunchyo | Do you know what Debian is? |
| 21:27.25 | __key__ | huh |
| 21:27.28 | __key__ | super serious |
| 21:27.39 | gunchyo | Debian is a GNU/Linux Operating System |
| 21:27.41 | __key__ | my boss: "__key__ setup debian server by Friday" |
| 21:27.45 | gunchyo | yes |
| 21:27.51 | __key__ | and I say, "Yes sir!" |
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| 21:27.54 | gunchyo | so he wants you to setup and install a whole new operating system |
| 21:27.55 | __key__ | I am a debian expert |
| 21:27.57 | gunchyo | on a new server |
| 21:27.59 | gunchyo | uhhh |
| 21:28.02 | brw | bwahaha |
| 21:28.05 | gunchyo | if this is a troll, it's bad |
| 21:28.06 | gunchyo | lmao |
| 21:28.08 | brw | might be a bit out in front of your skis, buddy. |
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| 21:28.27 | __key__ | so I thought my buddies at #debian can give me a jump start |
| 21:28.29 | teraflops | __key__: hard to believe youre not actually trolling |
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| 21:28.38 | __key__ | teraflops: huh? |
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| 21:28.45 | gunchyo | yeah I really think he might be serious teraflops |
| 21:28.49 | gunchyo | which is troubling |
| 21:29.10 | gunchyo | __key__, listen. Debian is a WHOLE Operating System. It's an alternative to Windows. It is it's OWN system, it's not a "program" or .exe |
| 21:29.13 | gunchyo | it's a WHOLE SYSTEM |
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| 21:29.18 | annadane | anyway, no, there isn't "setup.exe". just download the image you need, transfer it to something like a cd or usb stick, and install it, either on its own partition or dual boot |
| 21:29.20 | __key__ | wowsers |
| 21:29.23 | gunchyo | so your boss wants you to install Debian, an OS, to a server |
| 21:29.24 | gunchyo | or a VM |
| 21:29.25 | Satou | Nope, i cant get macchanger to run at startup |
| 21:29.26 | gunchyo | and set it up |
| 21:29.35 | teraflops | no huh at all, a trivial search on google (or bing) gives you the information you want |
| 21:29.37 | __key__ | kinda like OS2 ? |
| 21:29.39 | gunchyo | maybe he should set it up in a VM first... |
| 21:29.41 | gunchyo | OS2... |
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| 21:29.51 | gunchyo | uh, I guess |
| 21:29.54 | gunchyo | It's GNU/Linux |
| 21:30.09 | __key__ | hrmm |
| 21:30.09 | brw | __key__: start here https://www.debian.org/intro/about |
| 21:30.14 | annadane | on its own partition or use the entire disc, i meant |
| 21:30.21 | annadane | s/disc/computer |
| 21:30.24 | annadane | i need to lie down |
| 21:30.28 | gunchyo | euhhh |
| 21:30.29 | __key__ | it's free! |
| 21:30.35 | gunchyo | not entire disk, watch his AD setup go down |
| 21:31.04 | gunchyo | "__key__, where did the AD seRver go? Nobody can login" |
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| 21:31.33 | __key__ | ok this is starting to sound like a project |
| 21:31.40 | __key__ | I don't really have this kinda time |
| 21:32.12 | annadane | i mean you can probably also just download virtualbox and stick a debian image on that |
| 21:32.26 | __key__ | do u think I can just setup a linode and trick him? |
| 21:32.42 | gunchyo | uhm |
| 21:32.48 | gunchyo | VB/VMWare might be better |
| 21:32.54 | gunchyo | but linode/droplet would be better |
| 21:32.56 | brw | or Microsoft Azure |
| 21:33.02 | gunchyo | yeah |
| 21:33.03 | __key__ | is that visual basic? |
| 21:33.04 | gunchyo | or aws? |
| 21:33.11 | gunchyo | VirtualBox |
| 21:33.18 | __key__ | oooh |
| 21:33.23 | __key__ | the other VB |
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| 21:33.41 | __key__ | i don't care what the #linux guys said, you guys are alright in my book |
| 21:34.04 | __key__ | what about ubuntu? is it easier? |
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| 21:34.48 | brw | there is no way this is real. |
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| 21:35.44 | gunchyo | yeah lmao |
| 21:35.49 | gunchyo | uh |
| 21:35.55 | gunchyo | debian would probably be easier? |
| 21:36.01 | gunchyo | it's pretty straightforward |
| 21:36.26 | __key__ | hrmm |
| 21:36.31 | __key__ | i am in way over my head |
| 21:37.27 | gunchyo | Prepare 3 envelopes |
| 21:37.37 | __key__ | 3? |
| 21:37.58 | teraflops | I still have doubts, anyway go grab a new machine, or use hyperv/vmware/vbox, then read the installation guide and install it |
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| 21:38.19 | __key__ | no new machines |
| 21:38.25 | __key__ | gotta use this win10 box |
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| 21:39.57 | brw | gunchyo: bwahaha, 3 envelopes |
| 21:40.13 | __key__ | not understanding the 3 envelopes |
| 21:40.38 | jmsbnd | quite sure that's not the only thing ... |
| 21:40.41 | __key__ | jmsbnd: I am running mirc |
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| 21:41.21 | teraflops | __key__: then you already know what to do. either install it in a virtual machine or make room for it and dual boot (bad idea according to the backlog) |
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| 21:41.53 | annadane | let's not attack them for trolling when it isn't clear that they are; this isn't helping |
| 21:43.03 | __key__ | getting impatient with lack of help here |
| 21:43.27 | teraflops | bails on this one |
| 21:43.35 | __key__ | if I install linux with ms exchange running, will I need additional RAM? |
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| 21:44.02 | __key__ | Cabanossi: nice of you to join us again |
| 21:44.03 | brw | __key__: do this https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/quick-create-portal |
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| 21:44.16 | annadane | you need to be patient on irc. |
| 21:44.17 | brw | just go get a free account on Azure and set up a VM there |
| 21:44.18 | __key__ | azure, bah |
| 21:44.18 | gunchyo | __key__, I think you should install Debian as a virtual machine |
| 21:44.19 | simpledat | Hi how can I see what linux I use? |
| 21:44.27 | gunchyo | simpledat, what kernel or distro? |
| 21:44.29 | gunchyo | uname -a |
| 21:44.37 | simpledat | gunchyo: distro |
| 21:44.43 | brw | __key__: it's going to teach you what you need to know before you break something. |
| 21:44.44 | gunchyo | do uname -a |
| 21:44.45 | __key__ | azure is weak |
| 21:44.57 | brw | __key__: Azure is pretty damn useful. |
| 21:44.59 | simpledat | It dont say like "Debian 8 Jessie" |
| 21:44.59 | metastable | __key__: Azure is quite powerful, as is GCE/AWS. |
| 21:45.07 | Mahe | simpledat, try "lsb_release -a" |
| 21:45.10 | __key__ | GCE/AWS yes |
| 21:45.10 | gunchyo | ty |
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| 21:45.15 | __key__ | azure is for lamers |
| 21:45.24 | brw | __key__: do you want our help or not? |
| 21:45.30 | gunchyo | Listen to Mahe simpledat sorry lol |
| 21:45.37 | annadane | __key__, go waste somebody else's time |
| 21:45.38 | __key__ | brw: yes I'd LOVE some help |
| 21:45.41 | simpledat | Mahe: Thanks, So I use Debian 8.9 Jessie, is that good enough? |
| 21:45.45 | annadane | and stop being annoying |
| 21:45.46 | gunchyo | Yes, of course |
| 21:45.48 | metastable | __key__: Given that you lack any kind of knowledge and how painfully obvious that state appears to us observers, I'd suggest you curb your attitude and your judgments. |
| 21:45.55 | gunchyo | simpledat, yes. What is your situation/question? |
| 21:45.59 | metastable | __key__: Learn both patience and humility. |
| 21:45.59 | __key__ | wowsers |
| 21:46.03 | __key__ | getting snippy up in here |
| 21:46.12 | simpledat | gunchyo: Nothing special, I want to use a good version :) |
| 21:46.17 | brw | __key__: If you want our help, you shouldn't call solutions we bring you lame or weak. |
| 21:46.19 | brw | you should try them |
| 21:46.20 | __key__ | guess I rained on someone's parade |
| 21:46.20 | gunchyo | ah yeah |
| 21:46.28 | gunchyo | Jessie is still supported until 2018? 2020? |
| 21:46.34 | gunchyo | you're good, just keep your kernel updated :D |
| 21:46.42 | __key__ | oh u guys like azure??? |
| 21:46.54 | brw | __key__: who cares if we like it |
| 21:46.54 | __key__ | hahahaha ROFL |
| 21:47.00 | annadane | !ops obvious troll |
| 21:47.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: annadane complains about a problem (see above) |
| 21:47.04 | brw | yeah |
| 21:47.05 | simpledat | gunchyo: kernel updated? Do you mean like apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
| 21:47.09 | brw | I think I'm done. |
| 21:47.11 | __key__ | lamers |
| 21:47.15 | gunchyo | pretty much simpledat |
| 21:47.16 | __key__ | is Jessie outdated? |
| 21:47.19 | gunchyo | No |
| 21:47.24 | gunchyo | just keep packages updated is what I should've said |
| 21:48.42 | __key__ | so will linux work with creator's update? |
| 21:48.53 | gunchyo | you're not a good troll |
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| 21:49.05 | gunchyo | We've offered help, either accept it or I suppose leave |
| 21:49.15 | gunchyo | Grab a NetInst image, setup a VM, install Debian there |
| 21:49.18 | metastable | Just ignore him. |
| 21:49.21 | gunchyo | ok |
| 21:49.33 | metastable | He'll get bored and go waste his time elsewhere. |
| 21:49.52 | __key__ | ouch |
| 21:49.55 | babilen | __key__: Play elsewhere please |
| 21:50.02 | __key__ | ok then |
| 21:50.05 | gunchyo | I need some help actually. Which is better to compile from source -> .deb, apt-get -b, cleaninstall or dpkg something? |
| 21:50.10 | gunchyo | there was one other program you should've used |
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| 21:51.33 | simpledat | What is the name when you run apps in none gui? |
| 21:51.41 | simpledat | text based |
| 21:51.47 | simpledat | I mean in terminal |
| 21:52.05 | teraflops | cli? |
| 21:52.12 | annadane | not sure it has a name, just "terminal based program" or somesuch |
| 21:52.38 | annadane | and yeah, cli |
| 21:52.45 | simpledat | teraflops: cli? is like you run openvpn in terminal like, openvpn --config "here.conf" |
| 21:52.47 | annadane | ("command line interface") |
| 21:52.55 | teraflops | command line interface |
| 21:52.56 | simpledat | thanks |
| 21:53.52 | annadane | anyway, as i was saying. |
| 21:54.04 | teraflops | simpledat: btw you can drop client.conf in /etc/openvpn too and use systemctl enable/start openvpn@client |
| 21:54.15 | annadane | kind of an obscure question but has the method for validation of iso checksums changed since wheezy? |
| 21:54.23 | annadane | just wondering whether https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138603/how-to-verify-debian-iso-integrity is still correct |
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| 21:55.34 | gunchyo | anyone? |
| 21:55.34 | simpledat | teraflops: Ok thanks for the tip :) |
| 21:55.42 | gunchyo | what's the recommended way to build from source to deb |
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| 21:56.29 | annadane | didn't somiaj answer this earlier? |
| 21:56.34 | gunchyo | lemme check |
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| 21:57.18 | gunchyo | nope |
| 21:57.22 | gunchyo | he helped someone with macchanger |
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| 21:58.18 | annadane | sorry, was petn-randall |
| 21:58.36 | annadane | anyway, whatever. it's not helping your problem, sorry |
| 21:58.41 | gunchyo | np |
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| 21:59.27 | annadane | he was saying "Then just run 'debuild' in the source directory." |
| 22:00.03 | gunchyo | ah sorry, yes |
| 22:00.10 | Mahe | gunchyo, if it's already prepared for debian packaging it would be "dpkg-buildpackage" if it's just another source+Makefile "checkinstall" is your quick&dirty helper I guess |
| 22:00.28 | gunchyo | yes, dpkg-buildpackage is probably what I want |
| 22:00.30 | gunchyo | it's rtorrent |
| 22:00.36 | gunchyo | but I want to amke sure it's built with --with-xmlrpc |
| 22:03.51 | brw | gunchyo: what version of debian are you running? |
| 22:03.59 | gunchyo | latest, 9.2.1 stretch |
| 22:04.19 | brw | are you sure it's not already in there? |
| 22:04.26 | gunchyo | it should be |
| 22:04.31 | gunchyo | I just feel a need to compile from source? |
| 22:04.39 | brw | why? |
| 22:04.42 | brw | that would just complicate things |
| 22:04.43 | brw | for upgrading |
| 22:04.49 | gunchyo | haha |
| 22:04.53 | gunchyo | rtorrent never gets updated but yes |
| 22:05.00 | brw | I would install the package. It already depends on libxmlrpc |
| 22:05.00 | gunchyo | to ensure it has xmlrpc support for rutorrent |
| 22:05.04 | gunchyo | ok |
| 22:05.07 | gunchyo | that's my main concern |
| 22:05.08 | gunchyo | dh_auto_configure -- --with-xmlrpc-c --enable-ipv6 |
| 22:05.10 | gunchyo | is what I see so |
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| 22:05.11 | brw | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/rtorrent |
| 22:05.14 | gunchyo | thank you |
| 22:05.14 | brw | look at the dependencies |
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| 22:07.01 | annadane | also, if you're going to compile from source, don't use root |
| 22:07.05 | gunchyo | I know |
| 22:07.10 | gunchyo | I still need to setup sudo hold on |
| 22:07.18 | gunchyo | I dont think I need to then if it's precompiled |
| 22:07.25 | brw | You shouldn't |
| 22:07.26 | brw | it shoudl be set |
| 22:07.32 | gunchyo | I think I did before because I was using ARMHF, and 0.9.6 wasn't compiled for that architechture |
| 22:07.36 | brw | if it doesn't work in the package, we can go with a manual compile. |
| 22:07.40 | gunchyo | yes |
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| 22:07.56 | brw | looks like there is an armhf pack now |
| 22:07.59 | Mahe | I'm using stretch on a laptop with intel graphics. When I connect an external monitor to the display port, it automatically turns on mirror mode for both displays. What service might be responsible for that action? I don't want it to do anything automatically with an external screen at all. |
| 22:08.05 | gunchyo | there should've been one before, but yeah not the latest version |
| 22:08.07 | gunchyo | so I compiled to deb |
| 22:08.12 | gunchyo | but I'm on amd64 now... thank god |
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| 22:09.27 | format_c | Hi, I'm having quagga installed, but want to start it only when needed. However zebra is up after reboot even though I issued `systemctl disable zebra`. Status says "Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/zebra.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled)". Any idea how to permanently disable the deamon? |
| 22:12.29 | gunchyo | is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 22:12.30 | gunchyo | AAAA |
| 22:12.32 | gunchyo | santa's coming |
| 22:12.37 | brw | hah |
| 22:12.43 | gunchyo | I did usermod -aG sudo username |
| 22:12.46 | gunchyo | but...? doens't work? |
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| 22:13.18 | brw | log out and back in |
| 22:13.25 | gunchyo | I HAVE MAIL? |
| 22:13.33 | brw | or there is a command to reset your group status, but I can't remember off the top |
| 22:13.51 | gunchyo | haha |
| 22:14.11 | brw | you just need to create a new session |
| 22:14.14 | gunchyo | ok |
| 22:14.15 | brw | even a new terminal window will work |
| 22:14.19 | gunchyo | How do I disable getting this email |
| 22:14.25 | gunchyo | or is it just an internal service |
| 22:14.28 | gunchyo | I don't need email on this system |
| 22:14.54 | brw | its just internal |
| 22:15.02 | brw | reporting on your bad sudo behavior |
| 22:15.04 | gunchyo | yup, just needed a new session, thanks :) |
| 22:15.05 | gunchyo | ok |
| 22:15.12 | gunchyo | so no extra resources are being used |
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| 22:15.38 | brw | a little bit of storage |
| 22:15.46 | brw | unless you redirect all mail to /dev/null |
| 22:16.21 | gunchyo | ah |
| 22:16.27 | gunchyo | god apache is already running... |
| 22:16.44 | brw | depending on how you installed, yep |
| 22:16.47 | gunchyo | grr |
| 22:16.48 | gunchyo | just apt-get |
| 22:16.52 | brw | I find I alwasy need to prune after |
| 22:16.52 | annadane | !enter |
| 22:16.52 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 22:17.06 | annadane | and also, it's pushing other questions off screen |
| 22:17.15 | gunchyo | Sorry, it's a problem I have chatting on IRC. I agree. |
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| 22:20.07 | gunchyo | I should learn vi |
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| 22:26.28 | somiaj | gunchyo: if you have the source package, just dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -b, this says to not sign the package and to only build a binary package. |
| 22:26.37 | gunchyo | perfect, ty |
| 22:26.39 | somiaj | though there are other interconnected tools you can use to like dbuild |
| 22:26.41 | gunchyo | I will use this for later |
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| 22:34.01 | Church- | Hey, are there any better fan control packages in debian? |
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| 22:37.39 | phogg | Church-: better than what? |
| 22:37.39 | gunchyo | i too am curious |
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| 22:38.08 | Church- | Standard, I guess. Got a standard proxmox install and my fans are running at a 100% |
| 22:39.16 | somiaj | !proxmox |
| 22:39.17 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 22:39.40 | gunchyo | check your bios config too |
| 22:39.44 | Church- | Ah. Doy. |
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| 22:39.56 | somiaj | Church-: I would just look for linux fan speed packages, check your bios, and for your situation ask proxmox support, we don't support that here. |
| 22:40.03 | Church- | Noted, anything specific I should look for? |
| 22:40.08 | somiaj | there is ##linux if you just want generic linux questions about fan speed. |
| 22:40.11 | Church- | somiaj: Noted, heading over. |
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| 22:48.40 | gunchyo | Uhm |
| 22:48.49 | gunchyo | for some reason one of my ssh sessions, the title is just the ip |
| 22:48.58 | gunchyo | but it was the user@system before. what might've caused the change? |
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| 22:49.46 | garotosopa | Hi. What's the etiquette for contacting a maintainer about for a heads up of a new version available upstream? Bug report? Email? Can I help somehow? |
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| 22:51.33 | somiaj | garotosopa: check the tracker, if there is a watch file the tracker might also be telling them the package is outdated. What is the package by the way? |
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| 22:51.43 | garotosopa | somiaj, pick |
| 22:52.05 | somiaj | garotosopa: you can then check the BTS to see if someone else has made a bug about this. Getting the new version packaged for debian then would be a wishlist bug you can file |
| 22:52.18 | somiaj | garotosopa: give me one you know is out dated that you are intersted in. |
| 22:53.29 | garotosopa | somiaj, https://packages.debian.org/sid/pick sid is at 1.8.0 and upstream is 1.9.0 https://github.com/calleerlandsson/pick/releases |
| 22:53.47 | somiaj | garotosopa: sorry, I misunder stood you, I though you told me to pick. (: |
| 22:54.08 | somiaj | https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pick.html and https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pick |
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| 22:54.33 | somiaj | there is a watch file and if you notice on the second link (nicer to look at) it says there is a new upstream version and the matainer should be looking at this. |
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| 22:55.17 | somiaj | so it is known at least in the debian database there is a new upstream version. You could additionally file a wishlist bug, but this may not be needed right away. |
| 22:55.38 | gunchyo | cheers for now |
| 22:55.39 | garotosopa | Does this tracker send some kind of notification to the maintainer? |
| 22:56.08 | somiaj | as for what can you do to help, this is kinda fuzzy. Since there is an active matainer you can't just make the new package. You could update it and provide any pathces that are needed to the matainer if you think that would speed thigns up. |
| 22:56.48 | somiaj | garotosopa: no, but the matainer should be looking at that when they find time to update the package (it also gives the matainer other info about their package they should look at ocasionally). A wishlist bug is the only way to ensure the matainer gets an email in their inbox about the new version. |
| 22:57.29 | somiaj | garotosopa: are you wanting to just get a newer package for yourself? |
| 22:58.49 | garotosopa | somiaj, I'm comfortable to update it already. I was just curious to see if I could help to get the package updated. |
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| 22:59.45 | somiaj | garotosopa: this varies between matainers and how active they are. A wishlist bug is about the most you can do if you think the matainer doesn't know about the new version. Lots of times matainers time is limited, so you may not be able to do much more than that. |
| 23:00.30 | garotosopa | somiaj, thanks. is this a recommended guide on how to become more familiar with these processes? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
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| 23:00.32 | somiaj | If a matainer goes missing and stops updating things there are ways to have a non-matainer upload or to get a new matainer |
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| 23:01.00 | garotosopa | I don't think that's the case. He's probably just been busy. |
| 23:01.19 | somiaj | garotosopa: yup, that is the place to start for learning how to matain a debian package, it contains both speicifics on packaging and a bit of policy. As one gets more use to things, the policy manual is good to know about too, though quite borning to read. |
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| 23:01.58 | garotosopa | somiaj, thank you! |
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| 23:10.45 | Sveta_ | garotosopa: package maintainers may also use #debian-mentors at oftc, at their discretion (mailing list is another commonly used resource). |
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| 23:21.22 | simbalion | does debian do any sort of cpu throttling and if so can I disable it? |
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| 23:22.40 | annadane | if what you're asking is "my computer is slow, why?" then check for missing firmware first of all: dmesg | grep firmware |
| 23:22.55 | simbalion | No, I'm asking if debian does any CPU throttling. |
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| 23:23.12 | simbalion | apparently some distributions do |
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| 23:23.39 | anonnumberanon | Would it be kernel based or distro based |
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| 23:24.28 | simbalion | I don't know but what I've found so far suggests different programs for managing it depending on what distribution (ubuntu and rhel for example) |
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| 23:58.57 | lwells | HI all |
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