| 00:00.51 | e2 | KDE? |
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| 00:01.57 | digidog | Does anyone know a markov chain text generator terminal application for Debian, which can be used to randomly put out words of given length? All I found was mctext, but I dont trust this old binaries to compile on Debian 9. |
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| 00:03.09 | e2 | :D |
| 00:03.24 | simbalion | Hi, on machines built with Debian 9 I get an error about st-256color being an invalid $TERM but on machines that were upgraded from Debian 8, that error doesn't occur even when $TERM is st-256color, how can I fix this on the newer systems? |
| 00:04.09 | e2 | 32bit color |
| 00:04.57 | e2 | all nix |
| 00:05.00 | kion | when there are several updates, is it possible to only update certain packages, how do you tell apt not to upgrade certain package? |
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| 00:05.42 | e2 | u need cartificates? |
| 00:05.49 | e2 | for what? |
| 00:06.04 | lone-wolf | hi |
| 00:06.17 | lone-wolf | Wireless Tp-link Tl-wn7200 run in Debian? |
| 00:06.26 | e2 | wired |
| 00:06.35 | e2 | in laptop? |
| 00:06.43 | hossman | petn-randall: it didnt work. I followed this tutorial to get hostapd up and running. failed with some error about not being able to configure driver / nl80211: deinit ifname=wlan1 disabled_11b_rates=0 |
| 00:06.48 | e2 | wifi worked |
| 00:07.31 | hossman | followed this tutorial https://seravo.fi/2014/create-wireless-access-point-hostapd |
| 00:07.42 | e2 | all routers allowed,but u must worked with connection |
| 00:08.30 | e2 | setting your wifi,type password maybe need WPS |
| 00:10.25 | digidog | great, then I will start to make one. |
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| 00:18.32 | cluelessperson | hey guys, how do you rename a systemd interface by MAC ? |
| 00:18.40 | cluelessperson | all my interfaces are named "rename1-4" |
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| 00:24.45 | cerealguy | hi all. just installed stretch on an old laptop, getting some bad screen flickering whenever i type anything or open a program. wondering if anybody would be willing to help me troubleshoot. |
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| 00:26.30 | cerealguy | what i don't get is, i did not experience the screen flickering using the graphical install |
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| 00:30.42 | somiaj | cerealguy: check your xorg log file and see what graphics driver is being used. |
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| 00:50.09 | dpkg | WANTED: loving home for CPU architecture. Alpha is housebroken, and has had all its shots. Friendly, affectionate and energetic! Contact DEC (oops, Compaq! (oops, HP! (oops, the morgue))) for details. http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/ http://alphalinux.org/wiki/ #alpha on irc.freenode.net. Debian 6.0 ("Squeeze") drops official support for the Alpha architecture. See also <qotd230>. |
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| 00:52.18 | krytarik | Try !ops |
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| 01:20.13 | cluelessperson | does anyone how to rename systemd interfaces? |
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| 01:21.50 | nvz | cluelessperson: are you referring to systemd units like ssh or such? |
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| 01:22.41 | nvz | or are you talking about network interfaces? |
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| 01:24.34 | precise|debian | Hey everyone, having some issues with GRUB and my current install. It's a long question w/ context so I've pasted it here: http://paste.debian.net/plain/980858. I'd really appreciate any input you all can offer me, thanks! |
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| 01:28.00 | toruvinn | precise|debian, did you just rename /boot to /boot.old? it's not really doing anythign with the partitions. it's just renaming a mountpoint... |
| 01:28.39 | toruvinn | sure system wont be able to mount the partition as /boot and it'll fail hence the maintenance prompt |
| 01:28.43 | precise|debian | toruvinn: Hmm, I suppose your correct. I assumed the update-grub would have picked up on that. |
| 01:29.30 | toruvinn | precise|debian, not sure how picked up on that. you basically got a pendrive with GRUB and your kernel etc working. but you didnt remove GRUB nor /boot from your old drive. also, i'll be honest, i dont think there's a reason to. |
| 01:29.45 | toruvinn | things you keep in /boot are public anyway. i mean, i can download most likely the same kernel you are using now |
| 01:29.52 | toruvinn | it's in debian repos. why try to hide it? |
| 01:29.59 | precise|debian | toruvinn: It's more of a novelty project. |
| 01:30.00 | precise|debian | :P |
| 01:30.11 | precise|debian | A 'true FDE' |
| 01:31.02 | toruvinn | precise|debian, i could argue it's not anywya, but let's not go there. ;-P |
| 01:31.11 | precise|debian | Ofc :) |
| 01:31.33 | precise|debian | So, how can I remove GRUB and my old /boot? |
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| 01:31.42 | toruvinn | also lemme assure you pendrives tend to break. often. my experience with portable flash memory (pendrives/sd cards) is just... not too encouraging. |
| 01:31.55 | precise|debian | toruvinn: I have two ;) |
| 01:32.11 | precise|debian | One for day-to-day, one in my desk. |
| 01:32.21 | precise|debian | Also, backups are love, backups are life. |
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| 01:33.18 | toruvinn | precise|debian, well the easiest would be to unmount old /boot (which probably isnt mounted), wipe the partition, then remove the partition. you would also need to wipe the rest of GRUB in your MBR (and further sectors), which would be probably easier achieved by wiping the beginning of the disk until your first partition and then recreating the partition table. basically things that'll most lkiely break your installation if you aren't inc |
| 01:34.28 | precise|debian | TBH, I really don't want to touch the partition table because between encrypted volumes, LVM and multiple storage devices it will be a pain and I will most likely break something lol. |
| 01:34.33 | precise|debian | toruvinn: ^ |
| 01:34.40 | precise|debian | But if I have to... |
| 01:34.54 | toruvinn | are you on GPT or MBR or GPT with fallback MBR? ;-) |
| 01:35.15 | precise|debian | Ummm, MBR I think, was that a joke I missed? |
| 01:36.06 | precise|debian | I'm not that new to linux and Debian, but sorta new to the whole GRUB thing lol |
| 01:36.28 | precise|debian | A few months ago, as far as I was concerned, the first bytes of my HDD were / lol |
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| 01:40.42 | precise|debian | toruvinn: The last step in the first article I linked here, https://askubuntu.com/questions/539504/moving-boot-to-a-usb-key, states to remove /boot.old, will that (somewhat) accomplish what I'm trying to do? What does it leave behind? |
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| 01:41.05 | LuzLuna_ | ains nooo |
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| 01:45.48 | cluelessperson | nvz, network interfaces |
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| 01:48.06 | nvz | cluelessperson: I'm not real familiar with that but as I understand it the new way is to keep them uniform rather than changing across reboots, but you essentially as I understand can only either disable this feature and go back to the old way or create your own naming scheme |
| 01:48.32 | cluelessperson | nvz, that's what I'm trying to do |
| 01:49.07 | cluelessperson | nvz, https://hastebin.com/raw/leduxonowo |
| 01:49.11 | nvz | cluelessperson: man 5 systemd.link |
| 01:49.18 | cluelessperson | nvz, it's not working |
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| 01:51.40 | nvz | I'm not sure I can help I'm just learning systemd myself, I havent tried to do that sort of thing. |
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| 01:53.20 | nvz | I know you typically have to apply settings for systemd to recognize changes which is usually done with systemctl deamon-reload |
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| 01:53.53 | nvz | and I know that is the manpage that describes what you want to do, beyond that I wouldnt know how to troubleshoot it, you'll need someone more familiar |
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| 02:11.46 | precise|debian | Ok guys, fresh install, I ran an aptitude update and upgrade, there are a TON of unmet dependencies, broken packages, etc. |
| 02:11.49 | precise|debian | What the hell? |
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| 02:12.19 | tx | sounds like you have a messed up sources list |
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| 02:14.27 | precise|debian | tx: I am using MSU repository due to proximity and added a non-free repo for a gpu binary: https://pastebin.com/zpJFn1hZ |
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| 02:14.46 | precise|debian | tx: As far as I can tell, it's ok, unless the MSU repo is fucky... |
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| 02:15.57 | SpikeHeron | precise|debian: what happens if you try apt-get instead of aptitude? |
| 02:16.28 | jmcnaught | precise|debian: you're mixing jessie and stretch. which one do you want? you can't have both. |
| 02:16.57 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: oh fuck |
| 02:16.58 | precise|debian | lol |
| 02:17.09 | precise|debian | SpikeHeron: It errors on unmet dependencies as well |
| 02:17.54 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: wtf, I'm pretty sure I put the stretch iso on that usb.. lol |
| 02:17.58 | precise|debian | Woops |
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| 02:19.04 | precise|debian | netsplit much? |
| 02:19.06 | precise|debian | :P |
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| 02:20.40 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: In theory, after fixing the sources.list, a aptitude update && aptitude upgrade will resolve my issues? |
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| 02:22.49 | jmcnaught | precise|debian: i only saw a paste for your sources.list, not showing the problems you're having. Whether or not you installed any packages from stretch makes a difference, and also which one of jessie and stretch you want. |
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| 02:24.28 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: I get it, not much to go on. I'm pretty sure I installed a shit ton of the stretch packages. BUT... I removed the stretch repo and upgraded and it seems to have fixed everything, reporting 0 broken packages. Only a reboot will truly tell though :P |
| 02:25.03 | jmcnaught | precise|debian: you should read the release notes for stretch and complete the upgrade |
| 02:25.34 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: I actually plan on it, I thought I had installed stretch lol |
| 02:25.50 | precise|debian | Guess I'll just have to do the inplace upgrade :P |
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| 02:28.11 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: lol I broke something, dropped me down to shell on reboot, tty1 and all |
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| 02:29.33 | jmcnaught | precise|debian: if you still have a network connection you can complete the upgrade, following the instructions in the release notes on a phone or another computer |
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| 02:30.38 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: Will that basically remove all my fuckups and start fresh? |
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| 02:32.11 | jmcnaught | if your mistakes were limited to adding stretch and installing a few stretch packages then you can probably recover |
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| 02:32.26 | precise|debian | jmcnaught: I can hope lol |
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| 03:39.34 | Grobo | What source (apt/sources.list) can I use to get a PHP7 package for Debian Jessie? |
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| 03:42.54 | Grobo | Ah, I guess I just need to add sid to sources |
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| 03:44.07 | mandeep | why would you do that |
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| 03:45.40 | Grobo | Because I want to install the PHP 7 package |
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| 03:47.35 | mandeep | Grobo: what's keeping you on jessie? |
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| 03:48.31 | xar- | don't do it man, upgrading is pure pain |
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| 03:51.37 | Grobo | mandeep: Oh, um.. just because I had the image sitting around and didn't need to download anything. |
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| 03:53.17 | mandeep | Grobo: well i think php 7 is on stretch repos |
| 03:54.33 | jmcnaught | Grobo: you can't add sid to a stable system, it won't be a stable system anymore |
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| 04:21.19 | dogui | is it possible to use alsa over bluetooth in buster? I see bluez-alsa has been dropped |
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| 04:23.08 | tx | I think all of the development for BT audio has been moved to pulse. |
| 04:23.37 | tx | Actually, dogui, https://github.com/Arkq/bluez-alsa |
| 04:23.40 | tx | looks like it's still maintained. |
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| 04:24.38 | dogui | tx: Ah, thanks! I'm gonna try it, but maybe I should really move to pulseaudio... alsa is kind of ancient, right? |
| 04:24.43 | tx | Not packaged anymore in debian, sadly. |
| 04:25.04 | dogui | yeah |
| 04:25.31 | tx | Well, some applications (like firefox) have dropped ALSA support and are hard depending on pulse. |
| 04:25.53 | tx | A whiles back pulse was quite buggy and young, but it's quite a fair bit more stable now. |
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| 04:34.39 | rjsalts | pulse relies on alsa |
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| 04:35.55 | rjsalts | so alsa is still there, it's just that applications aren't necessarily using the lower level API to do things |
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| 05:06.01 | xuumno | omg |
| 05:06.03 | xuumno | where to begin |
| 05:06.18 | xuumno | Trying to wrap my head around using terminal |
| 05:06.39 | xuumno | Anybody got an idea of an exercise I can try out? |
| 05:07.36 | firef1y | xuumno: trying to figure out what you're asking. |
| 05:07.55 | firef1y | just trying to get the hang of terminals in general? |
| 05:08.03 | xuumno | yeah man |
| 05:08.26 | firef1y | well, there's basic stuff like ls/cd/cp/mv/rm |
| 05:08.54 | xuumno | I mean, I can follow a guide to get openvpn installed. But I find that it's just all copy and paste, and I'm not understanding it as I expected/ would like to |
| 05:08.58 | firef1y | which basically are 99% of what you do in a file manager program. |
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| 05:09.22 | nkuttler | xuumno: well, don't just copy and paste. open the man page for the config file, and read about every option you set |
| 05:09.30 | firef1y | I'm assuming that you have to have used "sudo apt-get install" before, given that you're running debian. |
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| 05:10.10 | nkuttler | xuumno: also install the bash-completion package |
| 05:10.16 | xuumno | I feel like I'm missing something. I have ubuntu on both of my laptops. But I still feel like I am not where I would like to be |
| 05:10.39 | firef1y | xuumno: honestly, ubuntu isn't that bad. |
| 05:10.45 | xuumno | Using debain on a cloud server atm thou |
| 05:10.50 | xuumno | so I'm using putty from windows |
| 05:11.08 | firef1y | I've run arch/gentoo/FreeBSD/just about everything else, and I'm starting to go to Ubuntu now. |
| 05:11.09 | nkuttler | xuumno: and check out tmux/screen |
| 05:11.23 | xuumno | nkuttler what's that? |
| 05:11.53 | xuumno | firef1y I started buying linux monthly magazines about 2 months ago to try and get into it a bit more |
| 05:11.56 | firef1y | you *can* do anything you could do elsewhere in debian/ubuntu, but there's a lot of easy ways out for ubuntu&co. |
| 05:11.59 | nkuttler | xuumno: allows you to keep a persistent "session" on a remote box, even after logging out |
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| 05:12.23 | firef1y | xuumno: you mean the bash-completion, or the tmux? |
| 05:12.40 | firef1y | the bash-completion allows you to press [TAB] to auto-complete a command. |
| 05:12.44 | xuumno | I'm not installing anything rn |
| 05:12.48 | firef1y | kind of like spell check, for a shell. |
| 05:13.03 | xuumno | nkuttler is that like a putty alternative? |
| 05:13.11 | nkuttler | xuumno: no |
| 05:13.11 | firef1y | xuumno: no, it's not. |
| 05:13.29 | firef1y | putty allows you to connect to a server. tmux keeps your shells going. |
| 05:13.29 | xuumno | gimmie a few mins to read up on it |
| 05:13.32 | nkuttler | xuumno: it's kinda like vnc for the command line |
| 05:13.38 | xuumno | aha |
| 05:13.43 | firef1y | So if you disconnect, you can come back later. |
| 05:13.51 | xuumno | tht seems smart |
| 05:13.56 | nkuttler | it is |
| 05:14.21 | firef1y | I'm using it right now. |
| 05:14.22 | xuumno | brb |
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| 05:17.32 | simbalion | Hi, on machines built with Debian 9 I get an error about st-256color being an invalid $TERM but on machines that were upgraded from Debian 8, that error doesn't occur even when $TERM is st-256color, how can I fix this on the newer systems? |
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| 05:20.32 | klys | simbalion, do you have that file in terminfo? |
| 05:20.47 | simbalion | klys: whats that mean? |
| 05:21.19 | klys | simbalion, ls /usr/share/terminfo/s |
| 05:21.41 | simbalion | klys: I think I understand |
| 05:22.24 | simbalion | so if I copy st-256color from a working system and install it on all new debian 9 systems then it should fix the issue? |
| 05:22.43 | klys | simbalion, also, what program has complained? |
| 05:23.04 | simbalion | klys: nano, mostly, but there's other issues like not getting color support in the prompt and so on |
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| 05:23.15 | klys | simbalion, perhaps, just that does not adequately address the issue |
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| 05:23.36 | simbalion | In Debian 8 it wasn't an issue |
| 05:23.44 | klys | good luck |
| 05:24.18 | simbalion | thanks |
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| 05:25.20 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 05:25.52 | klys | hi |
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| 05:27.46 | darxmurf | Still looking why some of my Nvidia GTX cards are randomly spinning their fans for 2 seconds every 30 seconds :-x |
| 05:27.48 | simbalion | woah, turns out the terminfo folder is empty on the server |
| 05:28.12 | darxmurf | is there a conf file somewhere for X where you can define those spinning parameters ? |
| 05:29.49 | simbalion | hrm there's a /lib/terminfo, but there isn't a /usr/share/terminfo |
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| 05:32.07 | klys | simbalion, apt-get install ncurses-term |
| 05:33.02 | simbalion | klys: that's installed, I think that's whats in /lib/terminfo, I created the /usr/share/terminfo/s folder and copied the file and that fixed the issue, I'll just add that to my provision script. Thanks for your help! |
| 05:34.09 | klys | yw. |
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| 05:47.31 | Lyberta | is there a program that simply wait for a key press? |
| 05:47.34 | simbalion | I am wondering which package creates /usr/share/terminfo tho, if it isn't ncurses-term |
| 05:48.49 | simbalion | wait, maybe it wasn't installed... I've been working too long I'm confusing my various SSH connections lol |
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| 05:49.52 | fireba11 | simbalion: try not to shut down the wrong box, did that yesterday :-D |
| 05:50.02 | simbalion | fireba11: heh, thanks |
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| 06:05.58 | vlt | ran a `chmod 0700 .*` in /home yesterday o_O |
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| 06:16.40 | darxmurf | that's not that terrible :-) |
| 06:17.08 | darxmurf | it's way more fun with shred :D |
| 06:18.40 | hexhaxtron | I'm getting lots of these emails. What should I do? https://paste.debian.net/980871/ |
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| 06:40.29 | blingrang | Since about 5 hours ago, I've randomly started getting a "hash sum mismatch" error with cloudfront.debian.net. |
| 06:40.53 | blingrang | during an apt update. |
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| 06:42.25 | blingrang | I've tried running apt clean as well without any luck. What could be the problem? |
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| 06:50.15 | darxmurf | did you try with another mirror ? |
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| 07:04.32 | BenNZ | blingrang: its a problem at the server end , there isnt anything you can do about it , just wait a few hours and try again |
| 07:05.39 | blingrang | ftp.debian.org and deb.debian.org as well. |
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| 07:06.00 | blingrang | darxmurf, |
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| 07:06.08 | blingrang | BenNZ, Ok. Thanks. |
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| 07:07.21 | blingrang | darxmurf, Can you recommend any other mirrors? |
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| 07:09.19 | BenNZ | blingrang: its not about the mirror , best to wait or use the main mirror |
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| 07:26.43 | darxmurf | well if you have issues with 3 mirrors, there is something else |
| 07:26.50 | darxmurf | blingrang: where are you located ? |
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| 07:27.31 | darxmurf | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list use the one in your country or close to it :-) |
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| 07:28.58 | blingrang | darxmurf, our servers are located all over the world. New York, London, Singapore, but thanks |
| 07:29.36 | darxmurf | try the UK mirror on the UK server to see if there is something wrong |
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| 07:45.38 | darxmurf | and still no ideas about this weird NVIDIA Fan issue ? |
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| 08:41.40 | armin | ok so how do i set the system clock on a todays debian system? yes i've read the timedatectl man-page, set the correct timezone in /etc/timezone, and ensured that systemd-timesyncd is running. |
| 08:42.07 | armin | oh i also tried ntpdate. |
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| 08:44.52 | BenNZ | armin: if the hardware clock is correct you set it from that |
| 08:46.02 | armin | BenNZ: what if it's not correct? all i want to do is synchronize via ntp. |
| 08:46.20 | BenNZ | armin: ok you want to use ntp to set the date |
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| 08:46.38 | BenNZ | armin: https://wiki.debian.org/NTP |
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| 08:48.46 | armin | bah, i'm not even surprised the systemd devs managed to screw this, too. i used to be able to do that for almost 2 decades before systemd. |
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| 08:49.21 | jelly | you can keep using the isc ntp daemon |
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| 08:50.39 | doverZ | anyone installed and configured mariadb-server on debian 9 successfully?... its weird that its so different and giving issues, im not an experienced administrator but this looks like smth is wrong with the package |
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| 08:52.17 | doverZ | it doesnt ask for the mariadb root pass on install, although u can set it manually on mysql.users, the thing is that there r issues also with privileges that couldnt fix following the tips of all resources ive found on internet, but still cannot use phpmyadmin to manage the databases |
| 08:52.50 | BenNZ | jelly: i dont use ntp , but isnt still the same commands etc on systemd ? |
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| 09:03.54 | darxmurf | phpmyadmin :-x |
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| 09:06.47 | armin | wow! i managed to synchronize my system clock via ntp on a systemd computer! in only 25 minutes! |
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| 09:13.01 | doverZ | ive used the repo from mariadb, instead of using the official package from debian repos |
| 09:13.07 | doverZ | this one works |
| 09:13.10 | doverZ | the official not |
| 09:13.12 | doverZ | :S |
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| 09:13.58 | doverZ | darxmurf, whats that bad about a graphical tool to manage databases? |
| 09:14.38 | bolt | i administer at least two servers with mariadb on them |
| 09:14.43 | bolt | both were upgraded from 8 to 9 |
| 09:14.48 | bolt | no issues so far |
| 09:15.07 | doverZ | maybe cos u upgraded, and didnt a clean install |
| 09:15.14 | cluelessperson | question, for random services I might run, how do you suggest I isolate them? |
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| 09:15.27 | bolt | doverZ: did you try asking for help with the problem you were having |
| 09:15.28 | darxmurf | doverZ: it can seriously mess up the content of your db when ppl edit it with PHPMyAdmin |
| 09:15.32 | cluelessperson | for example, this one wants python twisted |
| 09:15.40 | cluelessperson | do I wrap it in a virtualenv? |
| 09:15.41 | darxmurf | specialy with UTF8 content |
| 09:16.04 | darxmurf | letters with accents and all |
| 09:16.19 | bolt | darxmurf: any database tool can mess up the database. phpmyadmin can be useful, but it's not a tool that allows you to do everything without being careful |
| 09:16.30 | doverZ | upgrading i guess u move with all the config, but if u install the official mariadb-server on debian 9 issues appear everywhere |
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| 09:16.43 | bolt | doverZ: such as? |
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| 09:17.21 | darxmurf | doverZ: I installed one a few weeks ago and everything is fine so far |
| 09:17.32 | doverZ | such as privileges and access ones that doesnt fix even modifying them on the hard way |
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| 09:18.24 | doverZ | could be like a mirror issue? some corrupt package maybe? |
| 09:18.26 | doverZ | this is so weird |
| 09:18.27 | bolt | doverZ: are you attempting to install it in a jail or something following an online tutorial, or are you saying "apt-get install mariadb-server" doesn't work for you? |
| 09:18.59 | doverZ | im using a virtual machine to test everything |
| 09:19.03 | doverZ | before i move to debian 9 |
| 09:19.12 | doverZ | and yea |
| 09:19.18 | doverZ | im using apt install mariadb-server |
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| 09:19.29 | blingrang | BenNZ, darxmurf Thanks for the help. I found out that the mirror issue was due to a debian backport. Nevertheless, it went away all on its own |
| 09:19.48 | doverZ | after that it should be usable from phpmyadmin |
| 09:19.51 | doverZ | but it isnt |
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| 09:20.06 | doverZ | i really think now, that this is some package release issue |
| 09:20.13 | doverZ | im using the spanish ftp mirror |
| 09:20.31 | doverZ | and the mariadb-server package doesnt work out of the box |
| 09:20.42 | doverZ | after the installation, but the one from https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=tedeco&distro=Debian&distro_release=stretch--stretch&version=10.2 |
| 09:20.45 | doverZ | works |
| 09:21.02 | doverZ | havent tested installing it from french or uk mirror |
| 09:21.21 | doverZ | maybe i do it now |
| 09:21.39 | doverZ | if this is a package issue, should be notified as soon as possible |
| 09:22.09 | doverZ | and yes, understand that about phpmyadmin but for some personal stuff |
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| 09:23.41 | doverZ | it works fine, depends on what u are working with... |
| 09:24.08 | user4711 | Installed stretch, xfce4, geary. In geary checkboxes are not visible. May be a GTK3 issue? Tested several themes, that contain GTK3 icons, settings etc.. Used lxappearance to change themes, and looked at .config/gtk-3.0/settings if changes are written in. Still no success. Any ideas? |
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| 09:27.25 | user4711 | Also looked at gtk3-demo: Terrible look, not a single widgets (right term?) like it should be, mainly unvisible. |
| 09:29.19 | jelly | doverZ: upgraded from jessie with mysql to stretch with mariadb 10.1, things pretty much just worked |
| 09:29.41 | hhw | 5:22 ä¸å <hhw> Sorry to interrupt, I have a VPS with debian 8, I just found I was not able to find /proc/interrupts. Any one can let me know the reason? I run it as a webserver for years. |
| 09:30.02 | user4711 | Same on firefox. |
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| 09:30.24 | user4711 | (firefox-esr) |
| 09:30.55 | doverZ | jelly, good to know that upgrading works |
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| 10:42.59 | zOthix | what does r stands for in 64 bit registers ? |
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| 10:49.46 | shark7 | hi |
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| 10:51.56 | shark7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.02 | shark7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:56.43 | jolt | zOthix: Most 32bit registers are named eXX, so they use rXX for 64 bit |
| 10:56.49 | jolt | (or so I would guess) |
| 10:57.25 | zOthix | i meant to ask what "r" means in it |
| 10:57.29 | zOthix | as " e " means extended |
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| 10:57.37 | jolt | really extended! :D |
| 10:58.06 | jolt | zOthix: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/127668/what-does-the-r-in-x64-register-names-stand-for |
| 10:58.31 | jolt | </end of todays googling service> |
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| 11:02.08 | iodev | jolt: yes |
| 11:02.33 | iodev | but there is also segment registers (ds, cs) and intruction pointer and much more :-) |
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| 11:03.58 | jolt | The correct answer would have been to point to #debian-offtopic |
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| 11:17.51 | tnorth | hi there |
| 11:18.48 | hjek | hi |
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| 11:18.52 | tx | hi! |
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| 11:19.01 | tnorth | my Debian 9.1 (x86_64) regulary uses suddently 100% of the CPU and is not accessible remotely anymore (ssh, no route to host). It seems to have crashed (nothing in the logs) |
| 11:19.11 | tnorth | how do I check what could have happend? |
| 11:19.22 | tx | Hmm! is it a process? could you look at top / top to see what's eating all of the CPU |
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| 11:19.38 | tnorth | tx: once rebooted, nothing there of course :/ |
| 11:20.00 | tx | Is this your personal PC? |
| 11:20.00 | hjek | how about top > top-dump |
| 11:20.01 | tnorth | but I run php/mysql |
| 11:20.05 | tnorth | it's a VM |
| 11:20.17 | tx | Is it under-resourced for the job? |
| 11:20.27 | tx | You might be hitting high memory too. |
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| 11:20.58 | tnorth | yep I thought maybe I'm swapping... |
| 11:21.33 | tnorth | but the VM manager doesn't report high memory use (or it happend quickly) |
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| 11:22.47 | tx | There's no preconditions to it failing? |
| 11:22.51 | tx | Lots of load etc.? |
| 11:23.09 | tnorth | nope, the machine was unused overnight |
| 11:23.17 | tnorth | sudently it happend this morning |
| 11:23.40 | tx | is your application forking / spawning stuff that isn't dying? |
| 11:23.48 | tx | or memory leaking |
| 11:23.55 | tx | or cron jobs that never finish etc. |
| 11:24.18 | tnorth | tx: i'll have a look on cron jobs, bot a priori nothing (only a bug tracker is running) |
| 11:25.30 | hjek | if you run "top >> top-dump", then you can see in top-dump which process was eating up the CPU just before your computer crashed. |
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| 11:26.29 | hjek | if the crash can be reproduced, then that could work. |
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| 11:26.53 | tnorth | hjek: I'll give it a try, many thanks |
| 11:27.18 | hjek | nice. |
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| 11:40.42 | wjtaylor_ | Deb 9: On the lock screen there was a software notification, but where is the notification bar on the desktop? |
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| 11:46.55 | Iridos | no idea⦠but if you want to install the security upgrades, just do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade (and look at the package list, maybe there are some things you do not want to upgrade for whatever reason) |
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| 13:07.52 | darxmurf | filled a bug report |
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| 13:19.07 | bs0d | Hello. Is there any place where I can see the versions of PHP in apt repository? I have no debian running machine at hand, but it is going to be powering the production environment. |
| 13:19.28 | bs0d | I cannot decide if I should use PHP5 or PHP7. Is PHP7 available in apt repositories? |
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| 13:20.59 | darxmurf | yep it is |
| 13:21.00 | darxmurf | ,php |
| 13:21.18 | darxmurf | god I never remember how to query the bot :| |
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| 13:22.05 | darxmurf | ,php7.1 |
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| 13:22.27 | darxmurf | ,php7.0 |
| 13:22.33 | darxmurf | well well well |
| 13:22.43 | etw3621 | !php |
| 13:22.44 | dpkg | PHP is a scripting language. To install, ask me about <install php>. See also <php wants me to download still>, <php mysql>, <php userdir>, <phpmyadmin>, <php gd>, <pear>, <pecl>, <suhosin>, <xampp>. http://wiki.debian.org/PHP http://www.php.net/ #php on irc.oftc.net, #php and ##php on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:22.52 | dvs | judd: version php7 |
| 13:22.53 | judd | No package named 'php7' was found in amd64. |
| 13:23.50 | darxmurf | ,v php7.0 |
| 13:23.51 | judd | Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.19-1; sid: 7.0.22-2; buster: 7.0.22-2 |
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| 13:24.31 | etw3621 | how can sid have an older version? |
| 13:24.55 | dvs | does it? |
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| 13:25.28 | jelly | older than what? |
| 13:25.28 | etw3621 | "sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.19-1;" |
| 13:26.01 | dvs | etw3621, and the one after that? |
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| 13:26.19 | etw3621 | oh, why two sid entries? |
| 13:26.48 | etw3621 | there is no such things as "old sid", is it? |
| 13:27.00 | dvs | maybe it's suppose to be jessie |
| 13:27.22 | jelly | a lesser architecture is lagging behind in builds, but php7.0 is an Architecture: all package so it's present in a repo |
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| 13:28.59 | Henry151 | hi folks |
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| 13:29.08 | Henry151 | I have a little problem that I'm having a hard time putting my finger on |
| 13:29.12 | darxmurf | bs0d: I would install php7 |
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| 13:29.28 | Henry151 | it just showed itself again so I got a screenshot of it. It's the white rectangle in the lower-right corner of the screen |
| 13:29.31 | Henry151 | http://imgur.com/a/ffURK |
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| 13:29.55 | Henry151 | I suspect it may be from thunderbird, but I'm not 100% sure what it's from; it pops up every now and then, and won't go away |
| 13:30.06 | darxmurf | I would say tbird too |
| 13:30.17 | darxmurf | try to close it and see :-) |
| 13:30.19 | Henry151 | and when I alt-tab around it gets filled with the last program to have filled it |
| 13:30.34 | Henry151 | thing is it dissappears after a few moments |
| 13:30.40 | Henry151 | so now it's gone |
| 13:30.42 | Henry151 | XD |
| 13:31.44 | Henry151 | "wave a wand at the computer and recite this incantation, that should get rid of it" |
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| 13:33.01 | darxmurf | or just close t-bird and see... :-) |
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| 13:35.49 | SuperTramp83 | Henry151, try this mybe https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/988673 |
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| 13:53.24 | KeyboardNotFound | How is Debian different from Ubuntu? I noticed that Ubuntu doesn't update their repositories regularly, is this different with Debian? |
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| 13:56.13 | dvs | KeyboardNotFound, it depends on which branch of debian you use. |
| 13:56.24 | KeyboardNotFound | dvs: stable |
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| 13:56.45 | KeyboardNotFound | But In ubuntu Firefox 55 is not available, and it stable released about 1 week ago. |
| 13:56.49 | dvs | KeyboardNotFound, those packages rarily change. |
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| 13:57.04 | joola | Hello i woul dlike to have 2 informations |
| 13:57.13 | KeyboardNotFound | dvs: what about security updates ? |
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| 13:57.22 | goldkatze | Hi :-) |
| 13:57.30 | dvs | KeyboardNotFound, yes, those are the updates that make it into stable |
| 13:57.44 | goldkatze | oldstable security support equals that of stable in every aspect, is that right? |
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| 13:58.44 | KeyboardNotFound | dvs: but if there's for example firefox 55, will mozilla continue fixing firefox 54 (which is available in the repositories)? |
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| 13:59.33 | dvs | KeyboardNotFound, debian follows the ESR brancxh |
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| 14:01.23 | joola | Why can't we update my package list ( apt update ) only with the stretch GPG keys ? |
| 14:01.41 | joola | It only works with the Whezzy old GPG ky |
| 14:01.44 | joola | key |
| 14:01.47 | jhutchins_wk | KeyboardNotFound: If you really think that the latest firefox is desirable in spite of only a week of testing, you can always install it from Mozilla. |
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| 14:02.45 | Bombo | hi |
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| 14:05.11 | Bombo | when i'm doing 'apt-mark showhold' i get nothing, but when i do 'apt-get upgrade' it says 'The following packages have been kept back:' (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 935 not upgraded.) |
| 14:05.13 | darxmurf | folks, week-end time, see you on monday ! |
| 14:05.29 | Bombo | how can i set all 935 packages to unhold? |
| 14:05.46 | dvs | darxmurf, you must stay! |
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| 14:07.19 | darxmurf | yep I'll stay in the country |
| 14:07.29 | n4dir | Bombo: if it was me i would probably try a dist-upgrade (as i don't care much if everything goes south). Else: more info is needed. |
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| 14:09.17 | Bombo | n4dir: i s/jessie/stretch/ 'ed sources.list, did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 14:09.53 | Bombo | n4dir: (computer freezed before finished) |
| 14:10.21 | Bombo | n4dir: now i want to complete |
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| 14:12.10 | Bombo | n4dir: think it is damaged now? |
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| 14:12.36 | jolt | Bombo: Well, apt dist-upgrade is a good one. Or read the output of that (if it's stuck at something) |
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| 14:13.04 | sn0wmonster | newb question: how do you run several commands in sequence as sudo? i have a batch script that does something like: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade, but i need to enter the password twice for it and i'd like to only need to enter it once |
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| 14:13.58 | dvs | sn0wmonster, why not run the script with sudo instead of putting sudo in the script? |
| 14:14.02 | Bombo | jolt: ok i'll try |
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| 14:14.38 | sn0wmonster | dvs: i have no good answer to that |
| 14:14.42 | sn0wmonster | :D |
| 14:15.03 | sn0wmonster | oh right, now i remember |
| 14:15.08 | sn0wmonster | some of the functions in the script shoudl not be run as root |
| 14:15.21 | dvs | ah |
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| 14:16.30 | greycat | sudo sh -c 'command one; command two; command three; ...' |
| 14:16.57 | greycat | or simply let the sudo password caching do its job so you only have to enter the password the first time |
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| 14:18.28 | sn0wmonster | ty |
| 14:19.39 | n4dir | Bombo: i recall something like "apt-get check" (i doubt it will tell you more than you already know, but perhaps worth a try) |
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| 14:21.07 | n4dir | Bombo: if i am not wrong: you got old-stable and stable in your sources list. Without any further action (like pinning) you will install the newest version (or upgrade to it) anyway. |
| 14:21.33 | n4dir | or you got stuff installed which is only to be found in jessie. |
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| 14:23.53 | Bombo | n4dir: i had jessie, changed it to stretch |
| 14:24.07 | Bombo | dist-upgrade running right now, takes some time |
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| 14:29.39 | n4dir | ah, ok. So that seems to be all the "problem" |
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| 14:30.43 | n4dir | the man page probably explain the exact difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. I ran debian for a long time, but never really cared to remember the difference (perhaps even didn't look it up) |
| 14:31.07 | greycat | dist-upgrade will add new packages and remove old ones if it feels the need |
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| 14:32.23 | jhutchins_wk | Do I remember correctly that only dist- or full- will upgrade the kernel? |
| 14:32.46 | greycat | regular upgrade will upgrade the kernel as long as it's the same ABI version |
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| 14:32.55 | greycat | it won't install a whole new kernel with a new ABI |
| 14:32.58 | n4dir | jhutchins_wk: that's what i remember too |
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| 14:37.51 | n4dir | both questions are answered, thanks greycat , i doubt i will be able to remember the answers. As long it works ... |
| 14:39.07 | BluesKaj | well, warning to nvidia legacy driver users: Don't try the 4..11 kernel, dkms can't rebuild the nvidia driver/kernel module required |
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| 14:39.57 | BluesKaj | namely the nvidia-340xx driver in my case |
| 14:39.59 | greycat | *gasp* testing not 100% working!? |
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| 14:40.33 | BluesKaj | gre seems to work on newer nvidia gpus tho |
| 14:40.42 | BluesKaj | greycat,^ |
| 14:41.05 | greycat | If I ever have an nvidia chipset and ever decide to try buster, I will keep that in mind, I guess.... |
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| 14:41.53 | joola | Why can't I update my package list ( apt update ) only with the wheezy trusted keys ? I Only imported the stretch trusted key and so i couldn't update my package list |
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| 14:42.28 | greycat | You can't go straight from wheezy to stretch. |
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| 14:42.51 | greycat | dist-upgrade only works one release at a time, wheezy -> jessie -> stretch |
| 14:42.56 | joola | No its not about upgrade the distro but about the GPG keys |
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| 14:43.01 | bsdnoob | hey I have a question , why doesn't any icon theme applies to all the icons ? |
| 14:43.14 | bsdnoob | I am using numix icon theme but some applications seem to ignore that |
| 14:43.36 | bsdnoob | namely firefox , xfce4-terminal and so on |
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| 14:43.46 | bsdnoob | why is this? |
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| 14:44.07 | joola | bsdnoob, for firefox it is because in debian the package is named firefox-esr and not firefox |
| 14:44.26 | bsdnoob | joola, why do they call it firefox-esr? |
| 14:44.52 | joola | because firefox and firefox esr isn't the same give me a sec |
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| 14:45.10 | joola | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ |
| 14:45.33 | greycat | /usr/bin/firefox is a shell script that execs firefox-esr |
| 14:45.49 | greycat | (on stretch, at least) |
| 14:45.56 | bsdnoob | joola, can I replace it with regular firefox? |
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| 14:46.49 | greycat | I am highly skeptical of joola's answer, but I don't know shit about icons and desktops. Just ... hold off on doing anything drastic based on one random person's IRC answers. |
| 14:46.49 | joola | bsdnoob, |
| 14:46.56 | joola | bsdnoob, sure you can :p |
| 14:47.44 | bsdnoob | joola, I don't see it in the repos |
| 14:48.02 | joola | greycat, you're agressiv :p Did you found answer for my question ? |
| 14:48.41 | greycat | Your question makes no sense. Why would you try to install stretch packages using wheezy signing keys? |
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| 14:49.10 | joola | bsdnoob, you need to download it direclty from firefox website and symlink direclty firefox esr to firefox |
| 14:49.22 | greycat | THAT part is wrong for sure. |
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| 14:49.39 | greycat | Do not fuck with the firefox-esr program. If you want to change /usr/bin/firefox, that may be fine. |
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| 14:50.03 | joola | Well i'm foing away from here ! |
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| 14:50.27 | bsdnoob | why so much hostility ? |
| 14:50.50 | greycat | Because giving WRONG ANSWERS leads to people breaking their systems. |
| 14:51.30 | joola | I'll link you to a script that i use to upgrade ta latest firefox version |
| 14:51.34 | bsdnoob | greycat, chill out mate |
| 14:51.41 | joola | And greycat will tell you if this is too heavy |
| 14:51.48 | joola | Will see |
| 14:51.50 | wildiness | hello, i have an issue with TightVNC on Win 10 being unable to connect to my |
| 14:51.51 | greycat | OK, fuck BOTH of you idiots. I'm done here. |
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| 14:52.03 | bsdnoob | lel |
| 14:52.06 | joola | You're free tu us it or not ( but read first what it does !!! ) |
| 14:53.27 | wildiness | hello, i have an issue with TightVNC on Win 10 being unable to connect to my debian 9.1 server with a vnc server running. Where should i turn for help? This chat or some forum? |
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| 14:53.49 | joola | https://pastebin.com/5pB8Z2RX |
| 14:53.55 | joola | bsdnoob, https://pastebin.com/5pB8Z2RX |
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| 14:55.52 | joola | This will download firefox to /opt/firefox/ extract it , then symlink firefox-esr to the current one |
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| 14:56.55 | joola | You could also simply modify the icon set to accept firefox-esr as well which could be simpler but you can get latetst firefox verison using the scriot |
| 14:56.56 | joola | Bye |
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| 14:57.57 | wildiness | hello, what is the best Debian support forum? |
| 14:58.21 | n4dir | wildiness: as far i can tell forums.debian.net is pretty much the only really active one |
| 14:58.31 | n4dir | if you speak german: that forum is good too, iirc, been ages |
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| 14:58.56 | n4dir | mailing lists might be worth a try. |
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| 15:08.48 | wildiness | what VNC do you people use and what do you recommend? |
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| 15:11.53 | ksk | wildiness: they dont really differ that much in my experience |
| 15:12.13 | ksk | I used tightvnc for a while. |
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| 15:13.37 | wildiness | i can't get tightvnc to connect to my server so i want to try something else |
| 15:14.05 | ksk | my car does not start so I buy another |
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| 15:14.28 | n4dir | can you connect to the vnc-server from a different device (or a different OS) ? That is: are you sure the server works correctly? That's what i would test first of all |
| 15:14.31 | goldkatze | wildiness: x11vnc to localhost with port-forwarding through ssh |
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| 15:15.44 | goldkatze | wildiness: krdc works well as a client. |
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| 15:16.50 | wildiness | well, the vncserver process is there and it is in netstat. also the tightvnc client gives the error "server actively refused connection" |
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| 15:20.14 | gabrielc | wm4: do you use jumbo frames? |
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| 15:29.21 | jhutchins_wk | goldkatze: There are a number of client/server pairings that don't work, but you should be able to tell from logs or verbose output what the problem is. |
| 15:29.43 | jhutchins_wk | wildiness: ^ I guess you're the one having trouble. |
| 15:30.59 | wildiness | yes, i just solved it. You had to run vncserver with the -localhost flag. i.e: vncserver -localhost no -geometry 800x600 -depth 24 |
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| 16:00.11 | jhutchins_wk | wildiness: You realize you could just forward the X application you need over ssh? |
| 16:01.28 | wildiness | no i did not, also i use bash for windows when i ssh |
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| 16:03.46 | jhutchins_wk | If you're on windows you'll need an xserver like xming or a cygwin installation. |
| 16:04.10 | jhutchins_wk | Enable X forwarding in ssh config, run the app from the CLI on the remote. |
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| 16:06.09 | wildiness | i use tightvnc client to connect to the server running vnc4server. but thanks for the help |
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| 16:07.46 | jhutchins_wk | wildiness: Lots of options. |
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| 16:12.50 | wildiness | what do you all use to upload code to your headless servers? copy pasting like barbarians? |
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| 16:15.26 | nkuttler | wildiness: um, what? |
| 16:16.32 | jhutchins_wk | wildiness: scp |
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| 16:17.15 | wildiness | lets say you use a old pc as a headless webserver, do you write the html directly in vim over shh or do you write it in an IDE and then upload it? |
| 16:17.18 | nkuttler | i don't upload, i download.. through git. otherwise you never know what'll end up on that server |
| 16:17.45 | jhutchins_wk | Yeah, git pulls are preferred. |
| 16:18.01 | wildiness | ok, but how do you get it into git then? |
| 16:18.02 | nkuttler | preferably automated after the ci has approved |
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| 16:18.50 | jhutchins_wk | wildiness: git push. |
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| 16:25.12 | jmcnaught | wildiness: take a look at some configuration management software like Ansible (my favourite), SaltStack, Puppet, Chef etc⦠these tools do more than push files, can be used to enforce policies (make sure the files haven't changed) and let you keep the configuration for all of your servers in a revision control system |
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| 16:31.26 | wildiness | jmcnaught: that's some cool stuff but it seems to be aimed at companies |
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| 16:32.06 | jmcnaught | wildiness: doesn't mean you can't use it for a couple of servers |
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| 16:39.05 | raktajino | I manage my personal stuff with ansible |
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| 16:39.14 | jak2000 | joel? |
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| 16:39.50 | raktajino | me? no my name is not and has not (to my knowledge) ever been joel |
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| 16:40.38 | raktajino | wildiness: IMO making your system configurations standardized and repeatable is a great way of learning how stuff works |
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| 16:43.21 | jelly | propellor! |
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| 16:44.05 | petn-randall | raktajino: Nice, it's a great way to keep your stuff sane and have a commit history. Put your playbook in git! |
| 16:44.28 | jak2000 | Joel Mitchell ? |
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| 16:44.31 | raktajino | perhaps one day |
| 16:44.39 | jak2000 | Joel Mitchell ? msg me please |
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| 16:44.58 | petn-randall | jak2000: Are you sure you're in the right channel? This one is for Debian support. |
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| 16:46.46 | jak2000 | petn-randall hi, ye si am on right channel thanks solved mi problem. |
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| 17:10.47 | Masterphi | I'm trying to make a bootable usb with the netinstaller ISO on a mac. Anyone with experience with this? unetbootin doesn't seem to work |
| 17:11.35 | abrotman | don't use unetbootin |
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| 17:11.51 | Masterphi | abrotman: what can i use? |
| 17:12.00 | abrotman | I think on a Mac oyu use the diskutility |
| 17:12.09 | Jobewankenobi | I think you can use the Mac Disk Utility |
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| 17:13.10 | Masterphi | restoring the image onto the drive? |
| 17:13.16 | Masterphi | doesn't work |
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| 17:13.49 | Jobewankenobi | Have you looked at Mac Linux USB Loader? |
| 17:14.04 | Jobewankenobi | Wait... NM.. that costs 4.99 |
| 17:14.39 | Masterphi | https://github.com/SevenBits/Mac-Linux-USB-Loader |
| 17:14.40 | Masterphi | this? |
| 17:15.53 | petn-randall | I'm sure there are instructions in the installation guide. |
| 17:16.55 | Masterphi | trying etcher |
| 17:17.42 | petn-randall | Hmm, the installation guide doesn't seem to have the answer: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid |
| 17:18.08 | Masterphi | Etcher seems pretty slick.. hope it works |
| 17:18.11 | jmcnaught | Masterphi: what you're looking for is something that does a bit by bit verbatim copy of the image to the USB device. If it's a program that makes things bootable by altering the image, then it will not work |
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| 17:21.06 | antiPosix | Masterphi: Why not use copy image /dev/sda |
| 17:21.23 | Masterphi | tried with dd already, didn't work |
| 17:21.36 | antiPosix | Masterphi: did dd give an error? |
| 17:21.45 | Masterphi | sudo dd if=~/Downloads/debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/disk2 bs=4194304 |
| 17:21.46 | Masterphi | nope |
| 17:21.48 | antiPosix | is your mac recognizing your USB drive? |
| 17:21.50 | Masterphi | no errors |
| 17:22.04 | antiPosix | why the specific blocksize? |
| 17:22.12 | Masterphi | 4MB |
| 17:22.29 | Masterphi | it's the recommended size |
| 17:22.33 | antiPosix | can you mount /dev/disk2 on your mac? |
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| 17:23.17 | Masterphi | antiPosix: before or after running the command? |
| 17:23.18 | antiPosix | Masterphi: and what makes you certain it didnt work? |
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| 17:23.30 | Masterphi | wouldn't boot on the other compute |
| 17:24.07 | antiPosix | after writting the image using dd, can you mount it mkdir /tmp/thumby && cd /tmp/thumby && mount /dev/disk2 /tmp/thumby |
| 17:24.09 | Masterphi | I'm trying again with dd on the partition instead of the drive |
| 17:24.45 | antiPosix | writting the image to the drive should have destroyed the partition |
| 17:24.46 | jmcnaught | Masterphi: that's incorrect, you need to write to the drive not a partition. The image is already partitioned. Do you have another computer you could do this on? |
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| 17:25.09 | antiPosix | you put images on a drive and it sets up its own partition table |
| 17:25.18 | Masterphi | mmmm gotcha |
| 17:25.24 | Masterphi | i'll cancel and try again |
| 17:25.42 | antiPosix | you are certain the BIOS on the PC is set up to boot from USB? |
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| 17:25.49 | Masterphi | yeah |
| 17:26.10 | antiPosix | Masterphi: and its in the correct order, so the USB has preference to boot over other OSes? |
| 17:26.36 | Masterphi | yeah, i go into the boot options and select the usb drive |
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| 17:27.13 | antiPosix | lunch time, talk later |
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| 17:28.53 | Masterphi | k |
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| 17:30.54 | ShalokShalom | why does Debian do not use deltas? |
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| 17:31.51 | jhutchins_wk | Masterphi: If creating the bootable media on a mac isn't covered in the install guide, you could do a writeup once you get it to work. |
| 17:32.13 | petn-randall | ShalokShalom: I'm assuming since it is too much overhead on the mirrors to do. |
| 17:32.17 | jelly | ShalokShalom: noone implemented them in a reliable way, they end up using a lot more space on mirrors |
| 17:32.21 | jhutchins_wk | ShalokShalom: Gammas are so much better. |
| 17:32.24 | ShalokShalom | ok, thanks a lot |
| 17:32.27 | ShalokShalom | jhutchins_wk: xD |
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| 17:34.07 | jelly | there used to be at least one project for binary deltas, it died off |
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| 17:35.46 | jelly | historical info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTPackageDeltas and linked debdelta.debian.net |
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| 18:18.48 | jhutchins_wk | The phrase "dial up users" gives a hint at where the project went. |
| 18:20.26 | pie3 | any better alternative of slack? related to coding |
| 18:20.40 | JPT | mattermost is nice and can use gitlab as an auth provider |
| 18:21.01 | Masterphi | pie3: i like flowdock. but slack is pretty solid |
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| 18:21.44 | JPT | + you can host mattermost yourself. :) |
| 18:22.53 | DHowett | perhaps a meaningless issue, but: I have two copies of armhf libhogweed4, both 3.3-1+b1, and the libraries differ on disk. I was trying to build a sysroot using debootstrap that's identical to an installed machine without my configs. everything matches except the libhogweed binary. |
| 18:23.15 | DHowett | It doesn't look like there's any post-installation customization of libhogweed4; it doesn't have any maintainer scripts. |
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| 18:25.35 | DHowett | I've ruled out on-disk corruption because the package-provided/dpkg-calculated md5sums in /var/lib/dpkg/info match the binary on each sysroot |
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| 18:26.21 | jmcnaught | pie3: IRC |
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| 18:27.54 | Hoolootwo | yeah, I would say IRC is my highest preference, followed by mattermost |
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| 18:32.45 | jhutchins_wk | DHowett: If the md5sums are the same, how are you determining difference? |
| 18:32.57 | jhutchins_wk | DHowett: Theoretically that should be very difficult to achieve. |
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| 18:44.28 | Hoolootwo | jhutchins_wk, md5 is not hard to fake |
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| 18:44.47 | Hoolootwo | it is very easy to create two different files with the same md5 signature |
| 18:45.37 | enyc | Hoolootwo: hrrm is thehere a look for that now ??!?!? |
| 18:45.52 | Hoolootwo | a look? what? |
| 18:45.56 | greycat | A new variant of parallelized collision searching using MPI was proposed by Anton Kuznetsov in 2014, which allowed to find a collision in 11 hours on a computing cluster.[40] |
| 18:45.59 | Hoolootwo | md5 has been broken for years |
| 18:46.08 | greycat | You and I have different definitions of "very easy". |
| 18:46.11 | enyc | Hoolootwo: creating an md5sum collesion variant |
| 18:46.38 | Hoolootwo | I can generate two files with different signatures on my laptop in like a minute |
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| 18:46.58 | JPT | ... what's the goal here? |
| 18:47.01 | greycat | I can generate two files with two different MD5 hashes in seconds. |
| 18:47.03 | kaizoku | i can generate to files with different signatures in moments |
| 18:47.17 | ranix | nice moves kaizoku |
| 18:47.17 | kaizoku | that much is trivial |
| 18:47.30 | Hoolootwo | err s/different/same/ |
| 18:47.53 | greycat | Hoolootwo: can you create one with a given MD5 hash on demand? |
| 18:47.58 | Hoolootwo | no |
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| 18:48.29 | Hoolootwo | but saying that two files have the same md5 does not mean that they are identical |
| 18:48.38 | greycat | Yes, we understand this. |
| 18:48.43 | ranix | that's just a hash collision |
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| 18:49.06 | Hoolootwo | correct |
| 18:49.11 | greycat | But if *all* of your files pass debsums, then there is a good chance that they are not corrupted. |
| 18:49.20 | jmcnaught | it means that they're probably identical though, especially if there is no reason to believe someone has tampered with anything |
| 18:49.47 | Hoolootwo | oh, I missed that message, nevermind |
| 18:50.00 | ranix | if all your files pass debsums the chance of them corrupted is probably less than the chance of being attacked by a shark on the way to work |
| 18:50.37 | DHowett | jhutchins_wk: sorry, I mean that the library on system A has md5sum A, and dpkg supports that (dpkg/info/libhogweed4.md5sums contains A) and the library on system B has md5sum B and dpkg corroborates B as well. |
| 18:50.49 | Hoolootwo | I would expect debsums to not use a broken hash though :/ |
| 18:50.50 | DHowett | jhutchins_wk: but the package version is the same on both. |
| 18:51.00 | JPT | disk corruptions will probably alter files in a "random" kind of fashion. so the odds of a disk corruption altering a file in a way that a hash collision occurs is low enough for most use cases. |
| 18:51.13 | ranix | Hoolootwo: why not? it's good enough |
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| 18:51.32 | Hoolootwo | for checking whether there's been a corruption, yeah |
| 18:52.20 | JPT | On the other hand, if you're looking to verify that one binary is still the same trusted one while a skilled attacker could have created a bad version with a colliding hash, that's a different story. |
| 18:52.44 | greycat | right |
| 18:53.03 | Hoolootwo | I would like to trust debsums but on the same note, it only checks it against /var/lib/dpkg/info/, which could have also been changed by an attacker |
| 18:53.16 | ranix | I don't think debsums are a security measure |
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| 18:53.25 | greycat | debsums is not intended for that, no. |
| 18:53.30 | ranix | the security would come from the keyring |
| 18:53.31 | Hoolootwo | yeah, looking at how it works, I agree |
| 18:53.45 | ranix | the auth that you use to determine the server you download your packages from is authentic |
| 18:54.10 | ranix | there have been some scares in the past like when kernel.org got owned |
| 18:54.34 | ranix | I wouldn't mind fully signed packages |
| 18:54.40 | ranix | but it sounds nontrivial |
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| 18:55.36 | Hoolootwo | while nontrivial, it would certainly be a nice security feature |
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| 18:55.46 | DHowett | My concern is that the package content changed without the version number being changed; the package hash from the source is over a versioned filename and should prevent cases like this. |
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| 18:58.00 | Zedax | hey there , i know is not directly related with the channel however... , do you have any recommendation for linux certifications that are still relevant or worth? in a try to "look better" for potential employers? for someone with years of sysadmin experience but no certs or degree in IT, anything besides the RHCA/RHCE (is that still worth..?), anyone knows the SUSE certs? (thanks!) |
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| 18:59.09 | jhutchins_wk | DHowett: I would say it's probably just a matter of sloppy packaging. WHat about dates of the files in the .deb? |
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| 19:00.13 | JPT | Zedax: Not sure about the reputation and stuff about LPI, but if you're curious you can take a peek: http://www.lpi.org/ |
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| 19:00.29 | DHowett | jhutchins_wk: they differ a bit. i'll just chalk it up to repackaging on unstable; thanks! |
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| 19:01.02 | jhutchins_wk | hash collisions are what blockchain is all about. |
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| 19:03.04 | darsie | dpkg://flash stretch/ tells me to get flash plugin from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions. I select "FP 26 for Ubuntu (apt)" and get "apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner" which firefox doesn't understand. Should I get the PPAPI or NPAPI rpm? |
| 19:03.05 | dpkg | darsie: You are person #2 to send an unparseable request |
| 19:03.32 | greycat | For firefox, you want NPAPI. But I use the .tar.gz not a .deb. |
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| 19:03.47 | darsie | ok |
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| 19:04.13 | greycat | PPAPI is for the chrom* family |
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| 19:09.23 | DHowett | jhutchins_wk: actually, yeah, I grabbed the wrong dates. They're identical (!) |
| 19:09.27 | darsie | I put libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ , restarted firefox and http://www.midomi.com/ still says Get the flash player (refresh this page after installation). |
| 19:10.00 | greycat | I've been putting it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ |
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| 19:10.55 | greycat | There is also a /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ directory that you could try, but I don't know whether that works. |
| 19:10.57 | darsie | I have ~/.mozilla/extensions |
| 19:11.10 | greycat | wooledg:~$ ls .mozilla/ |
| 19:11.10 | greycat | extensions firefox plugins |
| 19:11.18 | darsie | what? |
| 19:11.20 | greycat | Just mkdir it if need be. |
| 19:11.22 | darsie | ok |
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| 19:11.35 | jhutchins_wk | That's one of the great things about mozilla. Standards? What standards? |
| 19:11.50 | greycat | Who needs backward compatibility? Who needs end user documentation? |
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| 19:15.49 | darsie | /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ worked. You could update dpkg://flash stretch/ |
| 19:15.50 | darsie | thx |
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| 19:16.59 | greycat | dpkg, flash stretch =~ s#/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/#/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ (for firefox)# |
| 19:16.59 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 19:17.09 | greycat | Any idea where it goes for chromium? |
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| 19:17.13 | darsie | nope |
| 19:17.43 | petn-randall | For chromium there's a package. |
| 19:18.26 | darsie | petn-randall: What does petn mean? |
| 19:18.40 | greycat | dpkg, flash stretch =~ s#plugin from#plugin (npapi tar.gz) from# |
| 19:18.41 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
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| 19:22.20 | petn-randall | ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:22.21 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.4~bpo60+1; jessie/contrib: 1.8.1+deb8u1; sid/contrib: 1.8.3+nmu1; buster/contrib: 1.8.3+nmu1 |
| 19:22.32 | petn-randall | darsie: Seems as though it doesn't exist for stretch. ^^^ |
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| 19:24.29 | solemnwarning | Hello |
| 19:24.46 | solemnwarning | I've just upgraded my server to stretch and it won't boot under Xen any more |
| 19:25.07 | solemnwarning | Kernel starts, but it only runs for a short while before locking up |
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| 19:25.30 | solemnwarning | Timestamps in the kernel log increment at an obscene rate and they bounce about between CPUs after it initialises the extra ones |
| 19:25.36 | solemnwarning | https://slexy.org/view/s201pvDyir |
| 19:26.00 | solemnwarning | (That was only running for a few seconds, not the 20 minutes the last time implies) |
| 19:26.32 | solemnwarning | I see warnings about hung tasks and timeouts from drivers if the kernel survives long enough to start them, so I'm guessing the timing being off is basically making the kernel die |
| 19:27.05 | solemnwarning | Runs fine if I boot the same kernel not using xen |
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| 19:40.08 | fly_agaric | hello guys, can someone tell me if i can repair a RAW partition from a macbook pro? |
| 19:40.44 | teraflops | fly_agaric: raw? |
| 19:41.27 | fly_agaric | i put the ssd into my windows pc and windows recognizes it as raw even with the bootcamp drivers installed it should be hpfs+ |
| 19:41.39 | teraflops | ah |
| 19:42.05 | fly_agaric | i wonder if debian live os could help here |
| 19:42.18 | teraflops | no you cant unless the host OS recognizes the fs and has the right tool |
| 19:43.31 | fly_agaric | is there really no possibility for debian? |
| 19:43.36 | fly_agaric | because i hate mac os |
| 19:43.49 | fly_agaric | its not gnu |
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| 19:44.19 | teraflops | fly_agaric: idk, search for hfs+ stuff in debian repos |
| 19:44.25 | greycat | I would not expect Windows to be able to repair a Mac OS X file system. |
| 19:44.50 | fly_agaric | for some reason debian is nearer to mac os x then windows |
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| 19:45.02 | fly_agaric | isnt mac os x from unix kernel? |
| 19:45.09 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: Not without third party toools - which I wouldn't trust. |
| 19:45.14 | greycat | It has BSD roots, yes. |
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| 19:45.37 | n4dir | if you really hate mac os, you could install (for example) debian instead. iirc |
| 19:45.49 | n4dir | well: i do recall correct. if nothing has changed. |
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| 19:46.21 | teraflops | they _paid_ for the unix certification if you meant that |
| 19:46.34 | fly_agaric | both in windows + debian the creation of a new partition fails |
| 19:46.57 | teraflops | it's amazing what corporations can do with enough money |
| 19:47.19 | n4dir | looks pretty much unix-like to me. |
| 19:48.20 | teraflops | fly_agaric: again, you need the the right tool for the file system being recognized and also being repaired if the ship such tools |
| 19:48.28 | teraflops | they^ |
| 19:48.42 | fly_agaric | i tried a 2nd ssd i did a diskpart clean in windows |
| 19:48.56 | fly_agaric | but create parttion primary fails as the debian partition |
| 19:49.01 | teraflops | fly_agaric: you want just erasing it? |
| 19:49.23 | fly_agaric | no I basically want to backup all my data on the 1st drive and install an os on the 2nd |
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| 19:49.46 | fly_agaric | the macbook only has 1 slot for a sata |
| 19:50.04 | fly_agaric | so i put in the 2nd ssd to just install a clean os |
| 19:50.08 | n4dir | fly_agaric: wiki.debian.org has got infos about macbooks. perhaps you can find relevant info there. |
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| 19:50.39 | teraflops | i dont think hfs+ is well supported under linux |
| 19:51.06 | teraflops | hfs is, but it lacks of journaling and it's old |
| 19:51.08 | Pwnna | does anyone know anything about gnu parallel? Specifically if i can change the number of jobs while it's in flight? |
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| 19:52.14 | aZz7eCh | best place to share a dialog window screenshot with you guys ? |
| 19:52.57 | greycat | Make someone want to see it, first. |
| 19:53.07 | teraflops | aZz7eCh: curl -F c=@path/to/a/file https://ptpb.pw is fine |
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| 19:54.46 | luv | what the .... |
| 19:54.52 | luv | debian still does not support uefi?? |
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| 19:55.08 | greycat | Debian has supported UEFI for a long time. |
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| 19:55.16 | teraflops | for a very long time |
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| 19:55.26 | greycat | What problem are you having, luv? |
| 19:55.27 | aZz7eCh | https://pasteboard.co/GFcyiu1.png okay so rebooted my machine ... soon as back into gnome ... am greeted with everything freezing up /chugging with these OpenSSH Authentication dialog boxes wanting an Okay or Cancel from me ... for sshfs calls to servers here ... i have never seen this happen before ever and i'm bit worried as to why it has done this. only game to click cancel. once i do ... system speed back to normal -b ut of course, no connec |
| 19:55.27 | aZz7eCh | tions to my servers anymore |
| 19:55.49 | aZz7eCh | jessie btw |
| 19:56.16 | luv | can't even install debian when I boot from usb "via UEFI" ... it gets stuck in a black screen just after I hit "installer in the grub menu |
| 19:56.51 | luv | in not-uefi the installer starts but gets stuck on that annoying bug when it says "can't find cdrom" ... and mounting /dev/sdb1 /cdrom does not help either in this case?! |
| 19:57.09 | luv | thats deb 9.1.0 |
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| 19:57.36 | n4dir | aZz7eCh: sshfs mounts via fstab? |
| 19:57.39 | greycat | luv: what image did you put on the USB stick, and how did you put it there? |
| 19:57.58 | aZz7eCh | n4dir no, i call them via a script that runs when i log into gnome |
| 19:58.23 | n4dir | might be more interesting to see the script than the screenshot. |
| 19:58.34 | luv | cp debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb |
| 19:58.35 | luv | sync |
| 19:58.35 | n4dir | but you say it worked before, as far i understand |
| 19:59.02 | aZz7eCh | i have never seen this happen before in 4 years of running jessie on here |
| 19:59.03 | mongo2 | luv, some laptops come with disks in software raid mode, and they will need to be changed to AHCI mode, even if they only have one disk, but also does it have nvidia graphics? |
| 19:59.03 | n4dir | next question: if you don't run the script, all is fine? If you then sshfs mount "manually" does that work? |
| 19:59.11 | teraflops | aZz7eCh: so tried commenting out such calls, and trying by hand so you can see whats going on? |
| 19:59.12 | aZz7eCh | okay let me run it manually |
| 19:59.16 | antiantiall | anybody have a good walkthrough in making resolution stick when running debian on ESXi? console has different resolution than X and X crashes often if I resize my vm window |
| 19:59.30 | luv | mongo2: not a laptop, yes nvidia graphics |
| 19:59.31 | aZz7eCh | ahh okay yep will fiddle and see what happens manually cli |
| 19:59.32 | aZz7eCh | stand by |
| 19:59.38 | n4dir | good luck |
| 20:00.02 | mongo2 | luv, which nvidia card? the 1080ti? |
| 20:00.03 | teraflops | antiantiall: install guest additions or whatever it's called (in the guest obv) |
| 20:00.07 | luv | mongo2: nope, 1060 |
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| 20:00.24 | antiantiall | @terflops I have open-vm-tools installed |
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| 20:00.55 | teraflops | what's wrong with guest additions? |
| 20:01.13 | antiantiall | is that a different package? |
| 20:01.26 | mongo2 | luv, OK at least on the UEFI side it is likely to be the nouveau driver, but are you trying to dual boot and keep windows? |
| 20:01.34 | teraflops | idk, I never heard of those tools before |
| 20:01.53 | luv | fresh box, don't use windows at all |
| 20:01.54 | luv | nou |
| 20:01.58 | aZz7eCh | n4dir, teraflops ... ran manually cli ... damn thing asked for the password for both servers. so typed it in. why would my machine have lost credentials suddenly like this ? |
| 20:02.05 | luv | nouveau - don't care either ... text mode install is ok |
| 20:02.13 | antiantiall | teraflops: looks like guest editions is the virtualbox equivelent of vmware's tools |
| 20:02.15 | mongo2 | luv: if you don't need to maintain a windows install, check the bios and make sure the disks are in AHCI mode, but if you are on windows you will need to do some extra steps to keep windows bootable |
| 20:02.25 | luv | umm will try |
| 20:02.29 | luv | though i doubt it will help |
| 20:02.32 | mongo2 | luv: try the server ISO if graphfics don't matter. |
| 20:02.38 | luv | i use netinst |
| 20:03.16 | luv | no server ISO here https://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 20:03.26 | greycat | netinst with non-graphical install should work, one hopes |
| 20:03.34 | n4dir | probably as such a thing doesn't exist. |
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| 20:04.06 | luv | :-D |
| 20:04.06 | teraflops | antiantiall: yeah, sorry I meant vmware tools |
| 20:04.28 | aZz7eCh | *relogging to see if it does it automatically again now |
| 20:04.29 | luv | and what's up with that "can't cdrom" bug when installing from usb? |
| 20:05.01 | luv | i get that every single time when installing debian ... and i prefer the usb installation media the preferred way (cd foo.iso /dev/sdb or dd if=foo.iso /dev/sdb) |
| 20:05.02 | teraflops | antiantiall: which video driver is the host using? |
| 20:05.24 | luv | the problem is that now i still get the error even after doing "mount /dev/sdb2 /cdrom" |
| 20:05.27 | luv | strange! |
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| 20:05.51 | luv | "can't find cdrom" |
| 20:06.01 | teraflops | in the host you tell the vm to use a video device, in vm properties |
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| 20:07.05 | teraflops | ,v xserver-xorg-video-vmware |
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| 20:08.25 | antiantiall | teraflops: i've got auto-detect settings or custom settings on the ESXI server for the vm settings |
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| 20:09.06 | aZz7eCh | okay so. guys. every reboot, this thing is now asking me to enter the passwords for all the servers i'm sshfs'ing to locally here.... utter nightmare ... please, any clues WHy ? |
| 20:09.57 | teraflops | antiantiall: tried custom, and then played with resolution in the guest? |
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| 20:10.26 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: this thing beeing what⦠|
| 20:10.32 | antiantiall | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.40 | teraflops | antiantiall: also check you have xserver-xorg-video-vmware installed on the guest, if debian, it's on the repos |
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| 20:10.51 | antiantiall | teraflops: package not found |
| 20:10.56 | antiantiall | on apt |
| 20:11.01 | teraflops | ,v xserver-xorg-video-vmware |
| 20:11.02 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-vmware on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:12.0.2-1+b1; jessie: 1:13.0.2-3.1; sid: 1:13.2.1-1+b1; buster: 1:13.2.1-1+b1; stretch: 1:13.2.1-1+b1 |
| 20:11.04 | hossman | could you please kindly help me setup an ap on debian? After being unsuccesful trying with NM and nmtui someon here suggested hostapd. I used this guide to set it up https://seravo.fi/2014/create-wireless-access-point-hostap. the ap was created but my phone gets stuck on finding ip. what can i try instead of dnsmask, and do I need to alter anything else on sysctl.conf |
| 20:12.38 | aZz7eCh | apollo13 i'm getting a dialog box prompt for passwords to all my sshfs connections when i log into gnome, like my system has lost credentials for them all and refuses to now remember them |
| 20:12.46 | aZz7eCh | have never seen this in 4 years ever ... |
| 20:13.14 | masoudd_ | Hi, I want to start a server that binds to port 80 as a non root user (www-data) I did setcap 'cap_net_bind_service=+ep' on the binary. But it still gives this error in the logs when I start the server with systemctl: "listen tcp :80: bind: permission denied". Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 20:13.55 | AndChat587225 | hi everyone. |
| 20:14.18 | aZz7eCh | apollo13, like this: https://pasteboard.co/GFcyiu1.png |
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| 20:14.33 | AndChat587225 | i am on my Android tablet. i try to install Debian through "gnuroot Debian" |
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| 20:14.42 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: that doesn't seem like a standard program for gnome keyring or anything |
| 20:14.46 | n4dir | aZz7eCh: having to either give the ssh-passphrase or to unlock the ssh-key (both after) reboot doesn't sound unusual to me |
| 20:14.50 | aZz7eCh | apollo13, i know right |
| 20:14.50 | apollo13 | looks like tcl, ie something old :D |
| 20:15.07 | aZz7eCh | n4dir, have never had to in 4 years |
| 20:15.16 | aZz7eCh | its getting its credentials, from file |
| 20:15.22 | n4dir | ok. |
| 20:15.33 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: again, what is "this" |
| 20:15.40 | apollo13 | which program etc⦠|
| 20:15.45 | apollo13 | it is not a standard gnome thing⦠|
| 20:15.53 | teraflops | AndChat587225: I dont think that's officially supported |
| 20:16.05 | aZz7eCh | o0... its merely a script running a sshfs command when you log into gnome - nothing amazing |
| 20:16.06 | AndChat587225 | Jessy's installation works well. Update and upgrade too. But when I want to upgrade to stretch, I got an error with libc6. It asks me to update the kernel but I don't manage to do it. |
| 20:16.08 | aZz7eCh | creates a connection |
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| 20:16.31 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: *sigh* |
| 20:16.48 | greycat | aZz7eCh: so debug the script, OUTSIDE the context of gnome. Run it from a terminal. Make it work again. |
| 20:16.52 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: but that question box has to come from somewhere, it doesn't look like a standard gnome passprhase dialog |
| 20:17.01 | aZz7eCh | https://hastebin.com/epezulexiy.bash |
| 20:17.05 | aZz7eCh | this is all thats being run |
| 20:17.14 | greycat | He coud have set the SSH_whatever variable to run any kind of weird password-asker. |
| 20:17.15 | aZz7eCh | where this dialog box has come from "IS" my original question |
| 20:17.23 | aZz7eCh | "What" is this dialog box, being my second. |
| 20:17.24 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: then your identity files are borked |
| 20:17.25 | greycat | SSH_ASKPASS |
| 20:17.28 | apollo13 | retry with just ssh |
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| 20:17.41 | greycat | apollo13: or his agent is borked |
| 20:17.46 | aZz7eCh | greycat, i did run it at the command line - it simply Asked for my apsswords again |
| 20:17.47 | apollo13 | or that |
| 20:17.50 | aZz7eCh | no error |
| 20:17.54 | aZz7eCh | simply wants the passwords |
| 20:17.58 | greycat | aZz7eCh: is it *supposed* to ask for your password? |
| 20:18.00 | AndChat587225 | teraflops: thx for your answer. It manage to install jessy in a chrrot environment. My problem is to upgrade it to stretch. I think, some people here could maybe have an idea |
| 20:18.16 | teraflops | AndChat587225: yeah sure, just saying |
| 20:18.20 | aZz7eCh | greycat, certainly not? they're mounted local network shares to my own fs ... |
| 20:18.22 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: run ssh -vvvv -o I⦠and show the output |
| 20:18.30 | apollo13 | also check the auth log on the target systems |
| 20:18.42 | greycat | also check your SSH_ASKPASS environment variable |
| 20:19.09 | aZz7eCh | sshAskPass is the name of that gui dialog if i hover over its icon running in the whatsit bar |
| 20:19.12 | apollo13 | (remove any sensitive data from the logs first) |
| 20:19.20 | aZz7eCh | yet its window title is as you saw |
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| 20:20.33 | n4dir | aZz7eCh: certainly it is supposed to ask for the passphrase. the content of the script you gave only shows the IdentityFile it is supposed to ask the passphrase for. (or i am confused) |
| 20:21.22 | apollo13 | n4dir: the picture suggests that it is asking for the user password on the remote machine |
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| 20:21.38 | apollo13 | which seems to indicate that pubkey auth failed and it therefor falls back to interactive password auth |
| 20:21.50 | greycat | If *I* were designing the thing, I would rely on the ssh-agent to supply the credentials. You should normally have things set up so that you enter your passPHRASE (not passWORD) one time into the ssh-agent at login. |
| 20:21.54 | aZz7eCh | i can assure you i have never had to enter every single sshfs passwrod every time i reboot jsut to have them mounted locally ... half my system storage runs live from at leats 2 other servers here ... for 4 years now. no i certainly have never had to do this before, ever. the first time i set it up, maybe, yeah. |
| 20:21.54 | apollo13 | hence ssh -vvv and outputs of the server side logs |
| 20:21.58 | n4dir | thanks. let me have a look again, apollo13 |
| 20:22.16 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: again, please provide the ssh -vvvv output and server logs |
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| 20:22.49 | AndChat587225 | https://pastebin.com/stTMbGJt |
| 20:22.53 | aZz7eCh | apollo13, yes i'm trying to come up with a working combination of your suggestion of ssh -vvvv -o I
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| 20:22.59 | aZz7eCh | so far they're all invalid inputs |
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| 20:23.12 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: what are you trying to execute? |
| 20:23.55 | apollo13 | ssh -vvv -oIdentityFile=~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@host or so should work |
| 20:24.09 | aZz7eCh | ty |
| 20:24.21 | greycat | The identity file should not end with .pub |
| 20:24.43 | apollo13 | oh true that |
| 20:24.50 | apollo13 | I just autocompleted it :D |
| 20:25.00 | apollo13 | (to far apparently) |
| 20:25.14 | greycat | and anywah, ~/.ssh/id_rsa is one of the files it tries automatically, so you wouldn't need -i for that |
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| 20:25.35 | apollo13 | who knows what else is in ~/.ssh/config :D |
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| 20:26.40 | AndChat587225 | dist-upgrade error : https://pastebin.com/YrE4muVy |
| 20:26.42 | aZz7eCh | its that much of a wall of text ... i'm having a hard time seeing what would be sensitive information to omit |
| 20:27.10 | apollo13 | to be honest, I think there shouldn't be really any sensitive info in it, but I am not 100% sure |
| 20:27.48 | nkuttler | ,v libc6 |
| 20:27.49 | judd | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u12; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u10; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch: 2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; buster: 2.24-12; sid: 2.24-14 |
| 20:27.56 | aZz7eCh | https://hastebin.com/gokigoyigu.scala <--- well this is the output |
| 20:28.04 | apollo13 | AndChat587225: what does lsb_release -a show? |
| 20:28.18 | nkuttler | AndChat587225: can you install dialog? |
| 20:28.53 | nkuttler | AndChat587225: and uname -a |
| 20:28.57 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: well, your server rejected the public key |
| 20:29.02 | nkuttler | ,kernels |
| 20:29.03 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-2-686 (4.11.11-1+b1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch-backports: 4.11.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.11.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: |
| 20:29.04 | judd | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2) |
| 20:29.05 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: so what did you change on the server |
| 20:29.11 | aZz7eCh | absolutely nothing |
| 20:29.16 | aZz7eCh | and theres more than one server |
| 20:29.35 | nkuttler | c |
| 20:29.49 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: then check the server logs |
| 20:29.51 | teraflops | nkuttler: are you aware AndChat587225 is using chrooted in android tablet? |
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| 20:30.26 | AndChat587225 | uname -a sho the kernel of android |
| 20:30.26 | teraflops | chroot^ |
| 20:30.37 | AndChat587225 | lsb_release : command not found |
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| 20:30.48 | nkuttler | pfff.. |
| 20:31.11 | nkuttler | "Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc" is pretty clear, isn't it? |
| 20:31.23 | AndChat587225 | installing lsb_release |
| 20:31.53 | AndChat587225 | I tried to do it but I probably do it wrong |
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| 20:35.47 | nvz | I am experiencing some odd behavior with a script that is suppose to stop nodm, slay a user, unmount their homedir, and close their crypt, and when I run it while their session is running it is restarting nodm before it slays http://paste.debian.net/hidden/af6defbc |
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| 20:36.59 | AndChat587225 | lsb_releasse : https://pastebin.com/rRvFbCMx |
| 20:37.34 | hossman | Hi i'm trying to setup hostapd. after many trials and errors Ive managed to get my android to connect to the ap and get an ip address, but there's no internet connectivity. I followed this guide https://seravo.fi/2014/create-wireless-access-point-hostapd . I think the problem is iptables, but I hate troubleshooting that. Hoping someone might help me |
| 20:37.35 | aZz7eCh | apollo13, error: key_verify: error in libcrypto provide any hint ? |
| 20:38.01 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: yeah, what did you do on the target machines :D |
| 20:38.11 | aZz7eCh | NOTHING |
| 20:38.15 | aZz7eCh | absolutely nothing. |
| 20:38.18 | teraflops | magic! |
| 20:38.30 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: that is absolutely the thing that I doubt |
| 20:38.39 | aZz7eCh | .... they're file servers dude |
| 20:38.43 | aZz7eCh | they sit there and run |
| 20:38.45 | apollo13 | I am not your dude |
| 20:38.45 | aZz7eCh | 4 years now |
| 20:38.55 | apollo13 | I hope they saw updates over those 4 years |
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| 20:39.08 | aZz7eCh | holly got an apt-get update the other day. |
| 20:39.12 | aZz7eCh | :) |
| 20:39.17 | apollo13 | ⦠|
| 20:39.24 | apollo13 | that is your freaking definition of nothing? |
| 20:39.32 | apollo13 | I am out of this crap |
| 20:39.40 | aZz7eCh | upgraydd as well. two d's for a double dose of pimpin. |
| 20:39.57 | teraflops | aZz7eCh: look at apt log for the packages that got updated |
| 20:40.16 | teraflops | that's a good start |
| 20:40.32 | apollo13 | who wants to bet on enabled 3rd party repos :D |
| 20:40.38 | teraflops | not me |
| 20:40.40 | teraflops | :P |
| 20:40.59 | apollo13 | feel free to bet against it, I want to win that bet anyways |
| 20:41.13 | aZz7eCh | under the var/log/apt folder - history.log ? |
| 20:41.14 | teraflops | oh wait I misread |
| 20:41.20 | AndChat587225 | trying to upgrade kernel : https://pastebin.com/QhMrGbbT |
| 20:41.21 | teraflops | no idea, to be honest |
| 20:41.24 | aZz7eCh | its empty. unzip the first one that has data ? |
| 20:41.26 | greycat | My first thought was RSA key expired, but I don't even know if ssh RSA keys *can* expire. Couldn't immediately find anything in the man page. |
| 20:41.45 | apollo13 | greycat: you can use ssh certificates that expire |
| 20:41.49 | apollo13 | raw rsa keys not afaik |
| 20:42.12 | apollo13 | greycat: ssh-keygen should show something in the manpage |
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| 20:42.27 | apollo13 | -V it is |
| 20:42.30 | greycat | that was where I looked, and I saw stuff about expiration on a certificate |
| 20:42.58 | apollo13 | right, but that afaik only applies when you use the certificate mode |
| 20:43.00 | apollo13 | ie with a CA |
| 20:43.20 | teraflops | if openssh got updated, no idea, maybe they are using and old and unsupported cipher |
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| 20:43.35 | apollo13 | no, rsa is still supported as key format |
| 20:43.36 | elfuego | anyone knows how to install git 2.14.1 on debian jesse, tried using https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ubuntu/ppa, but iâm getting a 404 when it tries to do a apt-get update |
| 20:43.42 | apollo13 | unsupported cipher would fail before |
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| 20:44.03 | greycat | elfuego: NEVER EVER EVER use an ubuntu repository on debian |
| 20:44.08 | apollo13 | elfuego: why do you need git 2.14.1? jessie is afaik still supported and should have got patches for the latest cve |
| 20:44.11 | greycat | ,v git |
| 20:44.12 | judd | Package: git on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy3; wheezy-security: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy4; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1+deb8u3; jessie-security: 1:2.1.4-2.1+deb8u4; jessie-backports: 1:2.11.0-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:2.11.0-3; stretch-security: 1:2.11.0-3+deb9u1; buster: 1:2.13.2-3; sid: 1:2.14.1-1 |
| 20:44.26 | apollo13 | elfuego: see https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3934 |
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| 20:45.28 | apollo13 | if you want 2.14.1 because of features I'd try backporting from unstable |
| 20:45.38 | greycat | I'd also like to hear what sparkly git feature of 2.14.1 is not present in 2.11.0 and is so urgently needed |
| 20:45.43 | darsie | Midomi.com doesn't record :(. It stays at 0:00. |
| 20:46.48 | darsie | I allowed acces to cam and mic, let flash remember that, allowed storing data, selected webcam mic instead of sound card. |
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| 20:47.57 | darsie | flash 'settings...' are disabled and greyed out, but I can delete settings with https://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html and then set them again. |
| 20:48.50 | apollo13 | darsie: sounds like a feature, why would you want flash *shrug* |
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| 20:49.07 | teraflops | darsie: so, youre getting errors with a non debian related site plus flash? |
| 20:49.10 | elfuego | apollo13: I need that version of git to patch CVE-2017-1000117 without upgrading jesse image |
| 20:49.21 | apollo13 | elfuego: no you do not, see my link |
| 20:49.31 | apollo13 | elfuego: jessie already has a patched version |
| 20:49.43 | darsie | apollo13: To have midomi recognize songs. |
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| 20:49.58 | darsie | teraflops: Yes, with debian. |
| 20:50.09 | apollo13 | and how is upgrading an image (whatever that means) different from adding a new repo and pulling that :D |
| 20:50.28 | teraflops | darsie: you did not even say wich web browser youre using |
| 20:50.55 | darsie | Firefox ESR 52.2.0 (64-bit) |
| 20:51.28 | teraflops | darsie: well, at least we expect youre using debian, indeed |
| 20:51.41 | apollo13 | greycat: the conditional configuration from git 2.13 mit be a "sparkly" feature depending on your usecases |
| 20:52.07 | darsie | teraflops: Would ##linux be more appropriate? |
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| 20:52.28 | darsie | Or should I connect to irc.mozilla.org or so? |
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| 20:52.41 | apollo13 | darsie: truth to be told with flash on it's way to die I'd look for another service |
| 20:52.48 | teraflops | no idea to be honest, trying different browser wouldn't hurt |
| 20:53.00 | darsie | Trying a different browser hurts. |
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| 20:53.19 | teraflops | no, using flash hurts |
| 20:53.50 | teraflops | dont be so pick with browsers and then use flash... |
| 20:54.22 | apollo13 | elfuego: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000117 contains all the details you need for that CVE -- there is no need for git 2.14 |
| 20:55.34 | darsie | Does midomi work with some open source flash (or whatever you call it)? |
| 20:56.00 | teraflops | open source flash thingies are useless 99% of the time |
| 20:56.00 | apollo13 | how would we know? |
| 20:56.28 | greycat | ,info midomi |
| 20:56.29 | judd | No package named 'midomi' was found in stretch/amd64. |
| 20:56.36 | teraflops | midori |
| 20:57.06 | greycat | It's a *web browser*!? And you're trying to make it use Flash!? |
| 20:57.11 | teraflops | hehe |
| 20:57.19 | nvz | would systemd's handling of the virtual consoles stop me from starting a process on one? I'm trying to "rungetty --auto-login user tty9 /bin/bash" and the command is returning with no output and not starting anything on tty9 |
| 20:57.38 | elfuego | apollo13: lol for a little more context, iâm using jesse as a docker image to run my application. But seeing that vulnerability came out a few hours ago I assume that I need to update git given that iâm running on jessie version 8. So iâm figure out what I need to do to get to that. But based on the links you posted, it seem like no action is required which got me confused since this image I presume isnât the latest and wasnât updated in the las |
| 20:57.38 | elfuego | couple of hours |
| 20:57.46 | darsie | greycat: http://www.midomi.com |
| 20:57.58 | darsie | Music recognition. |
| 20:58.07 | apollo13 | elfuego: there is action required -- you need to rebuild your image to include an updated git |
| 20:58.21 | greycat | I no longer have any clue at all what you are ... no wait, I never did to begin wtih. |
| 20:58.22 | teraflops | nvz: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Getty works, even on jessie |
| 20:58.23 | apollo13 | or run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in the image |
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| 20:59.42 | teraflops | oh heh I midori midomi ... |
| 21:00.05 | teraflops | sorry for my mistake |
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| 21:00.40 | nvz | teraflops: I'm asking the wrong questions and doing this wrong obviously. I want to be able to spawn my own processes on the terminals without logging in, but more on-demand via a triggerhappy hotkey than at boot |
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| 21:01.09 | nvz | I apparently still need to somehow activate these consoles for them to be ready to do this |
| 21:01.21 | aZz7eCh | okay. apollo13 , teraflops , greycat , would you like me to share how i have resolved this ? |
| 21:01.35 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: only if I win my bet :þ |
| 21:01.42 | apollo13 | jokes aside, I am curious |
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| 21:02.22 | greycat | I always like to hear how people solve their issues. |
| 21:02.35 | teraflops | nvz: ah try somthing like https://ptpb.pw/fRi0/sh |
| 21:02.57 | teraflops | apollo13: sure |
| 21:03.01 | teraflops | ahg |
| 21:03.08 | teraflops | aZz7eCh: sure |
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| 21:03.44 | nvz | teraflops: so I set these up as systemd service units and have them disabled so I can start them manually is the idea then right? |
| 21:03.59 | aZz7eCh | okay. In gnome.. I opened Passwords and Keys. Seahorse? i believe. Anyway. Randomly trying things... I added entries under Secure Shell / OpenSSH keys, for my server login details. (Create Key and Set up) Then. When i reboto my machine, gnome asked for hte key to be authenticated - and i ticked the box for "unlock this key every time gnome starts" ... and voila. eveyr reboot my sshfs script is now connecting to my sshfs servers just fine on |
| 21:04.00 | aZz7eCh | boot. |
| 21:04.08 | teraflops | nvz: you can even pass the tty number via @ to the service if you set it up properly |
| 21:04.18 | aZz7eCh | never needed to do this before ...but somehow - it has ='d a resolution. |
| 21:04.28 | teraflops | nvz: systemctl start myttythngy |
| 21:04.29 | greycat | So it was a borked agent after all. |
| 21:05.52 | teraflops | nvz: do not enable it, just start/stop it |
| 21:06.27 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: create and setup would create a new key and configure your servers accordingly I guess? so not real idea of the cause |
| 21:06.42 | apollo13 | greycat: mhm, the logs seemed to disagree |
| 21:06.44 | aZz7eCh | yep still clueless as to what the problem is lol |
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| 21:07.02 | aZz7eCh | i'm thinking i need to recopy MY public credentials to the servers ? i have no idea |
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| 21:07.19 | aZz7eCh | but doesn't matter now - this way i have gui control and can redo it if need be down the track |
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| 21:07.43 | apollo13 | aZz7eCh: out of fun, login to the server and check how many keys .ssh/authorized_keys contains |
| 21:07.48 | aZz7eCh | okay |
| 21:07.50 | apollo13 | I think you just created and added a new one |
| 21:07.55 | aZz7eCh | yep no doubt |
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| 21:08.31 | aZz7eCh | yes |
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| 21:08.34 | aZz7eCh | it has two entires now |
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| 21:09.27 | greycat | It's probably sending both keys, and the server simply uses the old one and ignores the new one. |
| 21:09.48 | aZz7eCh | .. then why is it unhappy with the old one on its own ? |
| 21:09.50 | nvz | teraflops: hmm. yes I keep trying to do things manually because I'm still figuring out this systemd and what it can do. I'm looking through the manuals now trying to see how that specifying a tty and runtime would work, and that's escaping me at the moment. For now I don't need it, but it would be interesting to learn |
| 21:10.01 | greycat | Whatever you did with the new key is a red herring; the real fix is you unborked whatever was screwed up with respect to the *original* key, so the agent is offering it once again. |
| 21:10.18 | aZz7eCh | hmm |
| 21:10.22 | apollo13 | I would just delete the new fingerprint from authorized_keys and retry :D |
| 21:10.27 | aZz7eCh | so i could try deleting these new ones |
| 21:10.28 | aZz7eCh | kk |
| 21:10.31 | apollo13 | also the new key |
| 21:10.38 | apollo13 | then increase server logging and see what happens |
| 21:10.50 | greycat | Did the authorized_keys files actually change on the remotes? |
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| 21:11.03 | aZz7eCh | yep |
| 21:11.08 | aZz7eCh | because its put the new on i just made in up there |
| 21:11.10 | greycat | That is bizarre as hell. |
| 21:11.11 | aZz7eCh | one* |
| 21:11.24 | apollo13 | well another option would also be that controlmaster is now in effect |
| 21:11.33 | apollo13 | which could mask the issue till a reboot or so :D |
| 21:11.45 | aZz7eCh | i've done multiple reboots after making these new keys |
| 21:11.50 | apollo13 | ah |
| 21:11.57 | aZz7eCh | then logged back in here to tell yas |
| 21:11.58 | aZz7eCh | ;) |
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| 21:22.40 | darsie | omfg, it's recording! |
| 21:24.57 | darsie | and recognizing music. |
| 21:25.10 | darsie | Thank you dear FSM! |
| 21:25.53 | darsie | I turned privacy plugins off and on and did the recording test on midomi.com. |
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| 21:26.31 | elfuego | apollo13: itâll be kinda tricky for me to do an image rebuild, beause jessie is an upstream dependency for the node images iâm using, so I was hoping for more of a standalone git update without requiring jessie rebuild |
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| 21:27.45 | apollo13 | elfuego: that makes no sense, adding a ppa (which will not work) and installing that is in no way less invasive than running apt update && apt upgrade on the existing image |
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| 21:34.29 | Qas | hello, I had installed jessie and later I upgraded to stretch. I guess therefore the stretch sources appear commented out in "etc/apt/sources.list.save" file. so I should uncomment them now? |
| 21:34.34 | Qas | https://paste.debian.net/981004/ |
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| 21:38.38 | towo` | sources.list.save is not used by apt |
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| 21:42.51 | Qas | I am not too sure but I think it was just "sources.list" when I entered jessie sources and commented out these. |
| 21:42.59 | Qas | I mean the stretch ones |
| 21:43.12 | Qas | so it's ok to leave them as they are? |
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| 21:46.18 | HotSwap | Hi. Curious if anyone knows how to enable root ssh login via preseed in stretch. I'm trying to script something, and have tried a couple solutions I found online, but they don't seem to be working for me in stretch. |
| 21:46.24 | Masterphi | how do i enable root login via ssh? adding PermitRootLogin without-password and yes doesn't seem to work |
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| 21:49.41 | armin | Masterphi: did you restart sshd after changing your config file? |
| 21:49.45 | Masterphi | yeah |
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| 21:49.52 | armin | should do then |
| 21:49.56 | Masterphi | even tried rebooting to make sure |
| 21:50.57 | armin | Masterphi: sure you got "PasswordAuthentication=" right? are you trying to log in via password? |
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| 21:51.14 | Masterphi | on the logs it says "Failed publickey for root from......." |
| 21:51.32 | Masterphi | armin: yeah, should be via password |
| 21:51.48 | armin | try logging in via ssh using "-vvv" or something |
| 21:51.57 | armin | and see what authentication methods you're being offered |
| 21:51.59 | hicks__ | Check PasswordAuthentication and ChallengeResponseAuthentication |
| 21:52.20 | hicks__ | although for root auth, I'd recommend using keys if possible, or ssh in via regular account then sudo or su |
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| 21:52.46 | Masterphi | armin: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password |
| 21:52.59 | Masterphi | then it just says Permission denied, please try again. |
| 21:53.58 | hicks__ | did you configure a root password during install? |
| 21:54.14 | Masterphi | yup |
| 21:54.21 | hicks__ | not that then :) |
| 21:54.30 | armin | hicks__: good catch though |
| 21:54.31 | Masterphi | also tried changing the password, with a longer one |
| 21:56.24 | Masterphi | i have the sshd running in debug mode too |
| 21:56.30 | Masterphi | nothing relevant showing up |
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| 21:57.14 | hicks__ | might be worth pasting sshd file to paste.debian.net |
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| 21:58.09 | Masterphi | is there a way to paste with curl? CLI only on the ssh machine |
| 21:58.43 | hicks__ | I think there's a util that'll paste files to it but I don't recall the name |
| 21:58.49 | hicks__ | someone will hopefully chime in :) |
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| 21:59.01 | hjek | xsel |
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| 22:01.12 | hjek | xsel works from terminal within X. without X, then, redirect output to a file perhaps? |
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| 22:04.36 | armin | Masterphi: <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
| 22:07.05 | Masterphi | http://sprunge.us/TNDI |
| 22:07.09 | Masterphi | that worked |
| 22:08.28 | Masterphi | i got it |
| 22:08.37 | Masterphi | just removed that line with without-password |
| 22:08.48 | Masterphi | just PermitRootLogin yes |
| 22:08.51 | Masterphi | duh |
| 22:08.56 | Masterphi | I can't believe it |
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| 22:11.14 | Masterphi | thanks guys :) |
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| 22:21.29 | hicks__ | :) |
| 22:23.23 | wjtaylor_ | I can launch archive manager from gnome3 but everything is greyed out? Is this a bug? |
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| 23:18.05 | careta | is there a way to log all commands done with sudo? |
| 23:18.32 | dondelelcaro | careta: by default they are logged |
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| 23:18.48 | careta | dondelelcaro, I mean the commands content |
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| 23:19.21 | dondelelcaro | careta: you mean the output of the command? |
| 23:19.25 | careta | ah wait nevermind, got it |
| 23:19.31 | careta | it's in the auth log |
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| 23:28.15 | rigel | migrating back to debian from ubuntu and mint, trying to set up stretch on an LVM partition on a headless server, networking is causing problems because ifup does not recognize the supposedly-predictable-interface-names |
| 23:29.46 | rigel | the debian networking page still retains lots of eth0 stuff but ifup complains it cant find either enp2s0 or eth0. is there a way to bring up the interface via the CLI that does not use ifup? not so experienced with the "ip" command suite |
| 23:31.27 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.41 | rigel | i do not have ifconfig, just ip |
| 23:31.46 | petemc | ip a |
| 23:32.11 | rigel | yes, enp2s0 shows up in ip addr |
| 23:32.29 | jmcnaught | iproute2 cheat-sheet in the release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#iproute2 |
| 23:33.28 | petemc | rigel: did you configure the interfaces? |
| 23:34.21 | rigel | no, because it says in the default /etc/network/interfaces that it uses ifup and ifdown |
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| 23:34.34 | rigel | which are not finding enp2s0 |
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| 23:34.43 | petemc | it says what? |
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| 23:35.29 | rigel | first line is "# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)" |
| 23:35.35 | petemc | right |
| 23:35.54 | rigel | and ifup is not finding the interface regardless of the naming convention i use |
| 23:36.15 | petemc | because it looks in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:36.36 | jmcnaught | rigel: do you have a stanza for enp2s0 in your interfaces file? |
| 23:37.01 | rigel | i will add one now, and try it again |
| 23:37.37 | rigel | i had been configuring it in a chroot environment and wasnt sure what the "predictable" name would be |
| 23:39.03 | jmcnaught | ifup/ifdown don't know about interfaces that aren't defined in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 23:41.32 | rigel | oic. this is my first time trying to install things this way, typically i just use the default installer. |
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| 23:55.39 | rigel | that fixed the proximal problem, so thanks. now to figure out what error triggered mounting root ro |
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| 23:59.33 | rigel | .....and this is apparently related to the LVM, since 'mount -o rw,remount /' says it cant find the drive by UUID, though its clearly mounted the right LVM partition |
