| 00:00.07 | missmbob | so you dont get removed packages which left config files behind. |
| 00:00.20 | missmbob | the grep will get you only currently installed |
| 00:01.19 | d1z | that is goofy. There should be a built in command that displays only installed packages without having to do any grepping |
| 00:01.51 | d1z | I mean come on this is debian, the grandad of linux distributions |
| 00:01.53 | *** join/#debian Vjetar (~Vjetar@93-141-89-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 00:02.00 | somiaj | d1z: I use dpkg -l | grep ^rc from time to time to find out all the packages I still have config files sitting around for. |
| 00:02.21 | somiaj | d1z: dpkg -l only lists installed packages. But one installed state is removed but config files remain. |
| 00:02.31 | somiaj | d1z: aptitude search ~i also searches for all installed packages (what ~i means) |
| 00:03.06 | somiaj | d1z: i.e. if you have config files still on your machine from a package. Is it installed or not? |
| 00:05.06 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@service-inf-drzs-vpn-104.ethz.ch) |
| 00:05.26 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 00:05.53 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 00:07.30 | *** join/#debian jonasbits (~quassel@213-21-80-56.customer.t3.se) |
| 00:08.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1698] by debhelper |
| 00:09.43 | *** join/#debian llldino (~llldino@192-0-243-91.cpe.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:10.53 | llldino | Hey guys, I'm trying to get pam_sshauth to work with sudo logins, but I'm having no such luck. It seems pam_sshauth succeeds in the authentication but I am still asked for my unix password anyways |
| 00:11.41 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 00:12.13 | *** join/#debian thedogcatcher (~thedogcat@ics168-22.icsincorporated.com) |
| 00:12.54 | *** join/#debian bugzc (~1@unaffiliated/bugzc) |
| 00:13.24 | *** join/#debian lel (~lel@unaffiliated/lel) |
| 00:13.38 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 00:13.49 | *** join/#debian infernix (~nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 00:15.47 | *** join/#debian Vjetar42 (~Vjetar@93-141-89-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 00:16.56 | *** part/#debian Vjetar (~Vjetar@93-141-89-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 00:17.36 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 00:17.51 | *** join/#debian catoblepa (~catoblepa@unaffiliated/catoblepa) |
| 00:21.41 | *** join/#debian AnD[a]LeS (~andales@122.52.69.221) |
| 00:22.09 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 00:23.21 | *** join/#debian stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@cpc97944-croy24-2-0-cust250.19-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 00:23.23 | *** join/#debian pav (~pav@93-141-89-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 00:23.37 | *** join/#debian poleprogger (~mj@46.128.154.166.dynamic.cablesurf.de) |
| 00:23.41 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 00:24.27 | *** join/#debian JPT (~jpt@classified.name) |
| 00:25.01 | *** part/#debian catos (~catoblepa@unaffiliated/catoblepa) |
| 00:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1692] by debhelper |
| 00:29.38 | *** join/#debian N3X15 (~Rob@2602:47:23a5:5b00:9dda:e559:739f:2bb5) |
| 00:31.32 | *** join/#debian olalonde (uid136@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gtlfrfezqdejipgh) |
| 00:32.36 | *** join/#debian lver (~lver@unaffiliated/lver) |
| 00:32.52 | *** join/#debian Rave1 (~dell@node-1w7jr9yc5q60xfql4a2pt2rlw.ipv6.telus.net) |
| 00:33.57 | *** join/#debian lver (~lver@unaffiliated/lver) |
| 00:34.13 | *** join/#debian Two-4-Flinching (~Two-4-Fli@168.28.22.38) |
| 00:34.24 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 00:34.29 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Heubert@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:35.03 | *** join/#debian Two-4-Flinching (~Two-4-Fli@168.28.22.38) |
| 00:35.35 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 00:35.36 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 00:35.45 | *** join/#debian lver (~lver@unaffiliated/lver) |
| 00:36.13 | *** join/#debian xiaodong (~xiaodong@128.199.200.83) |
| 00:36.54 | *** join/#debian thedogcatcher (~thedogcat@ics168-22.icsincorporated.com) |
| 00:39.21 | *** join/#debian canopus (~canopus@unaffiliated/pierrot) |
| 00:45.34 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Heubert@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:45.51 | *** join/#debian deeb (~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 00:46.25 | *** join/#debian civillian (~nick@174.202.49.122-static.velocitynet.com.au) |
| 00:47.39 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@bb219-75-53-138.singnet.com.sg) |
| 00:48.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1684] by debhelper |
| 00:50.32 | *** join/#debian mtcj (~AndChat21@75-170-240-218.desm.qwest.net) |
| 00:52.29 | *** join/#debian g0ne (~g0ne@node-1w7jr9qhnqyurcwudov35z7mn.ipv6.telus.net) |
| 00:55.29 | *** join/#debian marcozink2 (~marcozink@201.137.251.109) |
| 00:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1677] by debhelper |
| 00:59.22 | *** join/#debian musicnate (~musicnate@S010630b5c2fb31cf.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 01:00.02 | *** join/#debian Atm0spher1c (~future@unaffiliated/atm0spher1c) |
| 01:00.14 | *** join/#debian marcozink (~marcozink@201.141.12.229) |
| 01:00.25 | *** join/#debian shootbird (~quassel@beepbeep.serverpit.com) |
| 01:00.48 | *** join/#debian subhead (~subhead@109.235.42.45) |
| 01:01.20 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 01:02.43 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wcsxtucpfslhleir) |
| 01:03.56 | *** join/#debian sl4v3 (~casey.bil@216.13.193.90) |
| 01:07.06 | *** join/#debian dmtd (uid121116@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztsmnispwdkknmxc) |
| 01:07.07 | *** join/#debian vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@66-168-214-41.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) |
| 01:07.35 | dmtd | Hi all, trying to install a package, already have openssl installed, and I'm getting this error: You must install the package that provides a 64-bit version of libcrypto.so.6 (openssl) |
| 01:07.54 | *** join/#debian eclipsespark (~Icedove@net-37-117-217-130.cust.vodafonedsl.it) |
| 01:09.31 | *** join/#debian trumee (~trumee@c-73-155-87-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 01:10.21 | *** join/#debian dethos (~dethos@95.172.190.234) |
| 01:12.28 | somiaj | dmtd: sounds like you are using a 32bit user land but trying to install a 64 bit package. Why is this? |
| 01:12.39 | somiaj | or you only have the 32bit version of the openssl libs |
| 01:14.03 | dmtd | somiaj: 64bit OS, possibly 32bit openssl libs? not sure though. How can I check? |
| 01:14.10 | *** join/#debian SKYRAN (~SKYRAN@2.177.174.46) |
| 01:14.25 | *** join/#debian tlab (~tlab@104.235.20.44) |
| 01:14.44 | somiaj | dmtd: share the output of apt-cache policy, and then dpkg -l | grep openssl at paste.debian.net |
| 01:15.56 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 01:16.19 | *** join/#debian anton02 (~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 01:16.37 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 01:17.06 | *** join/#debian iamawesome (~shibly@unaffiliated/shibly) |
| 01:18.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1684] by debhelper |
| 01:19.03 | dmtd | somiaj: thanks! https://paste.debian.net/plainh/51d16576 |
| 01:19.05 | *** join/#debian Proximoov (~thesavage@sta59-2-78-230-20-100.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 01:19.44 | somiaj | dmtd: by the way, what is the output of dpkg --print-architecture, you can just type it here |
| 01:19.44 | *** join/#debian stray_ (~stray@84.216.70.112) |
| 01:19.49 | *** join/#debian SpaceAce (~SpaceAce@124-149-89-143.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 01:20.13 | dmtd | somiaj: amd64 |
| 01:20.30 | somiaj | dmtd: and dpkg -l | grep libssl (I think I got the wrong package name to see what libs you have installed) |
| 01:20.36 | *** part/#debian iamawesome (~shibly@unaffiliated/shibly) |
| 01:20.50 | somiaj | dmtd: it doesn't even appear you have multiarch enabled. What package are you trying to install? |
| 01:22.07 | dmtd | somiaj: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/8293c661 |
| 01:22.08 | *** join/#debian kooldavi (~kooldavi@p54BF4D52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:22.33 | dmtd | somiaj: I'm trying to install the Unitrends Debian agent: http://www.unitrends.com/support/resources/downloads |
| 01:24.30 | *** join/#debian surfist (~surfist@122.200.0.2) |
| 01:24.32 | somiaj | you have a 64bit of libcrypto installed as far as I can tell. Seems the package you are trying to install is not made for debian jessie. And since it is third party unsure what to do |
| 01:24.59 | somiaj | debian jessie has libcrypto.so.1.0.0 and the package wants another version. |
| 01:25.29 | somiaj | yea that package is made for debian 9.0 according to their website, not jessie. |
| 01:26.18 | somiaj | maybe the linux generic binary will work, maybe you'll ahve to compile it yoruself to get it working in debian. Unsure and we dont' really support 3rd party stuff here |
| 01:27.16 | dmtd | somiaj: there is a .deb file provided for the ubuntu version...could I use that? I mean I tried it and it had errors so not really sure. |
| 01:27.24 | dmtd | somiaj: and yeah I totally understand I appreciate your help |
| 01:27.37 | dmtd | isn't 8.6 the latest debian though? I think 9.0 refers to the agent version |
| 01:27.47 | somiaj | I find no packages in debian providing libcrypto.so.6 |
| 01:27.49 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 01:27.53 | missmbob | 9.0 is testing, stretch. the next release |
| 01:27.55 | somiaj | dmtd: debian testing/stretch is going to be 9.0 |
| 01:28.14 | somiaj | even then it is asking for a libary not in debian stretch. Maybe the maker of said packge made it in a debian based distro and not debian |
| 01:28.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you refer to the 9.0.0 on the website, that is the software version, not the distribution version |
| 01:28.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the thing for download is not a package but a shell script |
| 01:29.18 | somiaj | under the Release line it seems to have different version numbers for various things. Though maybe it is the release of their software and not of the version of the os |
| 01:29.21 | *** join/#debian iamawesome (~shibly@unaffiliated/shibly) |
| 01:29.26 | *** join/#debian Scourje (uid63311@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozpbjsrwohiguidu) |
| 01:29.32 | iamawesome | Hi, how can I check if I have usb 3 ports? |
| 01:29.47 | somiaj | iamawesome: lshw might show you the usbhubs you have, not sure about ports |
| 01:29.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, that's why they list it⦠sgi only has an old version⦠|
| 01:30.02 | somiaj | iamawesome: can't you just look at the thing? lsusb will give you current devices pluged in but may not list number of ports. |
| 01:30.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | I doubt windows xp is of the version 9.0 |
| 01:30.34 | iamawesome | https://bpaste.net/show/f706fa54da3c |
| 01:31.02 | somiaj | yea seems the 'Linux' and the 'Debian' and even 'Fedora' links are all to the same script and it is wanting a libary not provided in debian. |
| 01:31.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | dmtd, wait, did you download Debian->64bit? |
| 01:31.41 | *** join/#debian d3fc0n (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 01:31.44 | *** join/#debian crazyadm_ (~bao@115.198.200.215) |
| 01:31.49 | *** join/#debian pencilandpaper (~penciland@unaffiliated/pencilandpaper) |
| 01:32.03 | dmtd | CutMeOwnThroat: my thoughts exactly. Yeah I did download the 64 bit version. Looks like they provide a deb for ubuntu though? |
| 01:32.27 | *** join/#debian beaver (~none@unaffiliated/beaver) |
| 01:32.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes⦠anyway⦠this is paid software⦠take it up with them |
| 01:32.30 | somiaj | it might not work on debian though. seems their debian support is poor at best. |
| 01:32.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | laters |
| 01:32.48 | dmtd | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah fair enough. I'm using their free version |
| 01:33.09 | dmtd | Somiaj: yeah I agree |
| 01:33.27 | iamawesome | https://bpaste.net/show/f706fa54da3c , do I have usb 3? |
| 01:33.29 | somiaj | iamawesome: I can't really tell from that. Looks like you have multiple 1.0 hubs and a 2.0 hub. But as for number of physical ports on the machine, you may ahve to actually look up the specs of the machine. |
| 01:34.39 | *** join/#debian fassl___ (~fassl@194-96-116-231.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 01:37.17 | *** join/#debian popout (~hhh@cpe-76-187-7-15.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 01:37.30 | popout | Does Debian have a NSA backdoor |
| 01:37.46 | *** join/#debian beaver (~none@unaffiliated/beaver) |
| 01:38.07 | zykotick9 | popout: ask the NSA |
| 01:38.52 | *** part/#debian iamawesome (~shibly@unaffiliated/shibly) |
| 01:39.11 | *** join/#debian ivo_ (~Ivo@unaffiliated/ivo/x-7575225) |
| 01:39.33 | sl4v3 | !dpkg say something clever |
| 01:39.34 | dpkg | something clever |
| 01:39.48 | *** join/#debian deeb (~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 01:39.58 | *** join/#debian z4g4 (~z4g4@2001:8a0:fcaf:7a01:7e1f:5ab3:9176:8c97) |
| 01:40.12 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 01:45.44 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@216.123.253.30) |
| 01:48.21 | *** join/#debian alfred_ (~quassel@91.112.129.86) |
| 01:49.40 | *** join/#debian Fr_Dae (~Dae@did75-h11-89-86-12-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 01:50.11 | *** join/#debian alfred__ (~quassel@2001:470:6d:890::30) |
| 01:50.27 | llldino | Debian would be unlikely to have a backdoor, because it is open source software and the code is open for peer review |
| 01:51.43 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 01:53.57 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 01:55.03 | ryouma | popout: when they are discovered they get patched |
| 01:55.44 | ryouma | popout: but we don't know about ones we don't know about |
| 01:56.34 | *** join/#debian nighty (~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp) |
| 01:57.09 | llldino | Besides that, if the NSA wanted something they wouldn't need a backdoor |
| 01:58.22 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@216.123.253.30) |
| 01:59.11 | ryouma | the question is what backdoors does your hardware have |
| 01:59.17 | ryouma | that's more concerning i think |
| 01:59.58 | llldino | This is moving offtopic, but I'd be delighted to explain why that doesn't matter in #debian-offtopic |
| 02:02.02 | *** part/#debian anuxivm (~anuxi@92.177.99.40) |
| 02:02.59 | *** join/#debian ffatman (~ffamousff@2a01:e35:8ad7:6b60:445a:31f0:13d:c772) |
| 02:03.15 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 02:03.31 | *** join/#debian Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@unaffiliated/obi-wan) |
| 02:08.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1678] by debhelper |
| 02:10.38 | *** join/#debian [Saint] (~sinner@rockbox/staff/saint) |
| 02:11.42 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@209.222.168.248) |
| 02:11.55 | *** join/#debian k_sze[work] (~Kira@unaffiliated/kira) |
| 02:13.22 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@bb219-75-53-138.singnet.com.sg) |
| 02:14.20 | *** join/#debian creat (~creat@unaffiliated/creat) |
| 02:14.49 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 02:16.58 | *** join/#debian Janos (~Janos@190.171.102.56) |
| 02:20.46 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@unaffiliated/bnw) |
| 02:21.48 | *** join/#debian ancientninja (~ancientni@c-73-239-173-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:22.19 | *** join/#debian sidmo_ (~sidmo@p5489C805.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:22.33 | *** join/#debian gerforce (~gerf0rce@218.23.120.7) |
| 02:23.16 | *** join/#debian Rothgar` (~admin@ppp201-15.static.internode.on.net) |
| 02:24.33 | *** join/#debian sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@catv-89-132-97-31.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 02:24.36 | *** join/#debian lsv_ (~nn@CPE84948c2eddc1-CM84948c2eddc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:25.01 | *** join/#debian dreamseeker_ (~dreamseek@2E6B7656.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) |
| 02:25.07 | *** join/#debian bzed_ (~bzed@shell.bzed.at) |
| 02:26.49 | *** join/#debian Cueball (lee@11.21.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 02:27.00 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 02:27.28 | *** join/#debian eki (~eki@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c3d9-104.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 02:27.49 | *** join/#debian Hestben (~robert@c-31-209-31-52.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 02:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1670] by debhelper |
| 02:28.16 | *** join/#debian ephemer0l (~ephemer0l@unaffiliated/ephemer0l) |
| 02:28.20 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 02:28.24 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@chaosgate.angband.eu) |
| 02:30.50 | *** join/#debian Janos (~Janos@190.171.102.56) |
| 02:32.20 | *** join/#debian Colti (Miramar-FL@2a00:c1e0:0:2:0:1:208:ab5e) |
| 02:32.40 | *** join/#debian LostSoul (~LostSoul@78-11-228-60.static.ip.netia.com.pl) |
| 02:32.50 | *** join/#debian zz_capri (~capri_fre@212.218.126.52) |
| 02:33.03 | *** join/#debian lsv (~nn@CPE84948c2eddc1-CM84948c2eddc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:33.59 | *** join/#debian deeb (~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 02:34.48 | *** join/#debian AciD` (~fu@crediz.io) |
| 02:34.48 | *** join/#debian AciD` (~fu@unaffiliated/acid/x-7368316) |
| 02:35.04 | *** join/#debian lethu_ (~lethu@unaffiliated/lethu) |
| 02:35.24 | *** join/#debian jayfk (~jayfk@p4FF5DB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:35.50 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 02:38.15 | *** join/#debian Sigyn` (~lokasenna@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn) |
| 02:38.19 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 02:38.31 | *** join/#debian frekal (~frekal@155.4.14.37) |
| 02:38.37 | *** join/#debian loopingHigh (~Loop@ns3297764.ip-5-135-153.eu) |
| 02:39.10 | *** join/#debian fresh_oyster (~andreas@p5DDEBF3A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:39.34 | *** join/#debian Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@unaffiliated/obi-wan) |
| 02:40.15 | *** join/#debian krytarik (~krytarik@xebian/developer/krytarik) |
| 02:40.46 | *** join/#debian marc0s (~marcos@unaffiliated/marc0s) |
| 02:41.13 | *** join/#debian sikun (~sikun@h211.214.23.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 02:42.16 | *** join/#debian ketralnis (~ketralnis@reddit/admins/ketralnis) |
| 02:43.51 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Heubert@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:45.02 | *** join/#debian trumee (~trumee@c-73-155-87-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 02:45.05 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Heubert@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:45.37 | *** join/#debian Mahe (~mahe@p54B7E4BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:46.57 | *** join/#debian resurtm (~resurtm@2.132.97.201) |
| 02:47.06 | *** join/#debian Internat (~nf@60-241-102-25.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:47.32 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@unaffiliated/bnw) |
| 02:47.43 | *** join/#debian Internat (~nf@60-241-102-25.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:50.01 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 02:50.48 | *** join/#debian roylaprattep (~roylaprat@69.70.255.170) |
| 02:50.48 | *** join/#debian roylaprattep (~roylaprat@unaffiliated/roylaprattep) |
| 02:51.25 | roylaprattep | Nov 9 21:49:56 debian-prlsvr dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts in 0 secs): user=<>, rip=192.168.1.1, lip=192.168.1.1, TLS handshaking: SSL_accept() failed: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca: SSL alert number 48, session=<O/m+belAPADAqAEB> |
| 02:51.37 | roylaprattep | I have this error, when trying to log on my roudncube |
| 02:51.55 | roylaprattep | Someone can help me? |
| 02:52.06 | *** join/#debian althalus (~althalus@2601:603:a02:1c97:8871:fdf0:4171:11a1) |
| 02:53.04 | *** join/#debian roylaprattep (~roylaprat@69.70.255.170) |
| 02:53.04 | *** join/#debian roylaprattep (~roylaprat@unaffiliated/roylaprattep) |
| 02:53.20 | missmbob | unknown ca probably means you created your own private certificate |
| 02:53.30 | *** join/#debian althalus (~althalus@c-76-28-148-28.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:54.15 | *** join/#debian roylaprattep (~roylaprat@69.70.255.170) |
| 02:54.15 | *** join/#debian roylaprattep (~roylaprat@unaffiliated/roylaprattep) |
| 02:55.26 | *** join/#debian spacebug- (~spacebug@78-67-182-219-no258.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 02:58.10 | *** join/#debian z4g4 (~z4g4@2001:8a0:fcaf:7a01:7e1f:5ab3:9176:8c97) |
| 02:58.10 | roylaprattep | http://pastebin.com/T4Rtz4DL |
| 02:58.17 | roylaprattep | Someone can help me with that please? |
| 02:58.36 | *** join/#debian skrb_ (~skrb@p5B0F07E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:01.47 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 03:02.00 | texnofobix | roylaprattep: using tls/ssl ? |
| 03:02.11 | texnofobix | is it your dovecot? |
| 03:03.14 | roylaprattep | My imap server is working on my cell phone |
| 03:03.27 | roylaprattep | But when i try to log on roundcube, i got "connection to storage server failed" |
| 03:03.36 | texnofobix | what's roundcube? |
| 03:03.36 | roylaprattep | + this error line in my syslog |
| 03:03.41 | roylaprattep | webmail client |
| 03:04.02 | texnofobix | is your imap server ssl/tls |
| 03:04.09 | roylaprattep | yes |
| 03:04.17 | texnofobix | self signed? |
| 03:04.20 | roylaprattep | yes |
| 03:04.35 | roylaprattep | my cert expired last night so i done a new one |
| 03:04.36 | texnofobix | roundcube might not like self signed |
| 03:04.40 | roylaprattep | than all stopped working in roundcube |
| 03:04.44 | texnofobix | was it working before? |
| 03:04.46 | roylaprattep | yes, it was working before |
| 03:05.00 | *** join/#debian n4dir (~user@pD9EF0F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:05.07 | missmbob | get a free real one from letsencrypt |
| 03:05.17 | texnofobix | did you have to import the selfsigned into roundcube? |
| 03:05.22 | texnofobix | letsencrypt is cool btw |
| 03:05.37 | *** join/#debian Lostfile (~kvirc@pool-96-237-141-18.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:05.46 | roylaprattep | <it was working before tho |
| 03:05.56 | roylaprattep | i know i can use my own certs |
| 03:06.28 | missmbob | the error it's giving you is "unknown ca", as i said. obviously something changed and now it requires a real ca |
| 03:06.30 | texnofobix | dovecot is reporting unknown CA |
| 03:06.44 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@220-244-148-246.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:07.03 | roylaprattep | missmbob: I did no upgrade! |
| 03:07.13 | *** join/#debian clippng (~CHRONIC@2601:42:0:8bc4:e479:a053:b132:3468) |
| 03:07.13 | *** join/#debian clippng (~CHRONIC@unaffiliated/clippng) |
| 03:07.16 | missmbob | im not saying you did. config change when changing certs, etc |
| 03:07.17 | roylaprattep | missmbob: It was working with my old certs before i crete new one! |
| 03:07.17 | *** join/#debian gonz0 (~gonz0@r89-pw-tamanduaete.ibys.com.br) |
| 03:07.23 | missmbob | yes, stop screaming |
| 03:07.29 | roylaprattep | haha |
| 03:07.29 | missmbob | actually, fuck it. i dont care. good luck. |
| 03:07.39 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 03:07.41 | *** join/#debian Messenger_bird (~banana@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) |
| 03:07.41 | roylaprattep | jesus christ. stop screaming too. |
| 03:07.52 | texnofobix | :| |
| 03:08.08 | roylaprattep | what a great help channel! |
| 03:08.26 | texnofobix | seriously i'm trying ... does roundcube show any logs? |
| 03:08.42 | texnofobix | certs can be a p.i.t.a. |
| 03:10.00 | *** join/#debian LambdaCalculus37 (~robert@pool-108-5-96-40.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:10.18 | *** join/#debian badiane (~badiane@cpe-24-193-80-159.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:12.04 | roylaprattep | http://pastebin.com/9anLU49D |
| 03:12.19 | roylaprattep | its a server error i think |
| 03:12.19 | *** join/#debian chalcedony (~chalcedon@unaffiliated/chalcedony) |
| 03:13.06 | texnofobix | are you doing clientcert auth? |
| 03:13.17 | roylaprattep | what is that? |
| 03:13.17 | *** join/#debian mavhq (~quassel@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 03:13.39 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 03:13.41 | texnofobix | when you use a client certificate to authenicate who you are to the server |
| 03:13.55 | roylaprattep | no |
| 03:14.18 | texnofobix | couuld try turning off SSL verify that works and turn it back on |
| 03:14.25 | roylaprattep | ok wait |
| 03:14.39 | *** join/#debian daltonx (~daltonx@r186-54-181-171.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 03:14.48 | *** join/#debian kayamm (~km@188-230-217-226.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 03:14.49 | *** join/#debian kayamm (~km@unaffiliated/kayamm) |
| 03:15.05 | missmbob | https://git.kolab.org/T492 |
| 03:16.47 | *** join/#debian resurtm (~resurtm@188.166.16.241) |
| 03:16.58 | texnofobix | missmbob: that's interesting |
| 03:17.08 | missmbob | to accept by default being the key. the old one was probably manually set to accept |
| 03:18.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1677] by debhelper |
| 03:20.19 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogur2@200.69.231.209) |
| 03:25.29 | *** join/#debian XSoul (~XRule@130.204.194.161) |
| 03:25.39 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 03:26.17 | *** join/#debian cerebro_ (~cerebro@goo.atnf.csiro.au) |
| 03:26.53 | *** join/#debian cerebro (~cerebro@goo.atnf.csiro.au) |
| 03:26.56 | *** join/#debian pencilandpaper (~penciland@unaffiliated/pencilandpaper) |
| 03:27.08 | RoyK | missmbob: I don't really understand why anyone would use selfsigned certificates now that let's encrypt's around |
| 03:27.44 | missmbob | RoyK: probably because they're too set in their own ways to think clearly. |
| 03:29.39 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-sever1-nat-m.pilsfree.net) |
| 03:31.42 | RoyK | missmbob: quite possibly :P |
| 03:31.47 | likcoras | Does luks on lvm work out of the box for debian? |
| 03:32.16 | missmbob | yes. the installer offers it |
| 03:32.54 | likcoras | But (at least on stable) it does lvm on luks, not the other way around. |
| 03:33.04 | *** join/#debian hexagoxel (~hexagoxel@p200300798F1C0D00021E33FFFE2231E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:34.16 | *** join/#debian suffer (jeff@dev.linuxit.us) |
| 03:35.26 | *** join/#debian blotto (~pi@c-73-44-148-212.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:37.43 | *** join/#debian crazyadm (~bao@unaffiliated/crazyadm) |
| 03:38.08 | *** join/#debian chachasmooth (~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth) |
| 03:38.25 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 03:38.27 | *** join/#debian blu__ (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 03:40.03 | *** join/#debian yht (~yht@115.178.196.26) |
| 03:41.29 | roylaprattep | texnofobix: imap's working, only imap ssl is not. |
| 03:42.56 | *** join/#debian masber (~masber@129.94.15.152) |
| 03:44.49 | *** join/#debian OS-24754 (~OS-24754@103.240.135.66) |
| 03:45.57 | *** join/#debian kanyeezy (kanyeezy@gateway/shell/layerbnc/x-ibadntbeujkyetuy) |
| 03:47.40 | *** join/#debian trumee (~trumee@c-73-155-87-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 03:47.49 | *** join/#debian Cueball (lee@11.21.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 03:47.55 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 03:48.38 | roylaprattep | thx missmbob, your config is working. |
| 03:49.18 | *** part/#debian NameNick (~NameNick@unaffiliated/namenick) |
| 03:49.26 | missmbob | roylaprattep: you're welcome |
| 03:51.12 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~cebe@a81-14-235-90.net-htp.de) |
| 03:56.47 | dmtd | so a deb file I'm installing says this, and I can't figure out how to install the dependency: depends on linux-generic (>= 2.6.13); however: Package linux-generic is not installed. |
| 03:57.34 | *** join/#debian OS-24749 (~OS-24749@128.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 03:57.38 | *** join/#debian alfred_ (~quassel@2001:470:6d:890::30) |
| 03:57.41 | missmbob | linux-generic is an ubuntu thing. not debian |
| 03:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1670] by debhelper |
| 04:00.03 | *** join/#debian tinkersh (~TinkerSh@103.10.28.8) |
| 04:00.35 | dmtd | missmbob: cool thanks! |
| 04:01.02 | *** join/#debian maotm (~mao@81.24.87.130) |
| 04:02.09 | roylaprattep | missmbob: Damn, no, it isn't working... :/ |
| 04:02.47 | missmbob | roylaprattep: then my first recommendation is all i've got. never used roundcube or dovecot |
| 04:02.48 | *** join/#debian RamPage (~R@145.129.198.218) |
| 04:02.48 | *** join/#debian RamPage (~R@unaffiliated/mastergrab) |
| 04:03.02 | roylaprattep | certbot? |
| 04:03.21 | missmbob | that works |
| 04:03.29 | roylaprattep | Ok. |
| 04:03.33 | roylaprattep | Gonna give it a try. |
| 04:03.41 | *** join/#debian niftylettuce (uid2733@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfldvhqezqphsmjc) |
| 04:05.59 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 04:06.03 | *** join/#debian kanyeezy (kanyeezy@gateway/shell/layerbnc/x-xdyfoqbwsowunyyj) |
| 04:06.28 | *** part/#debian th0r (~thor@tx-184-7-56-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 04:08.16 | *** join/#debian llldino (~llldino@192-0-243-91.cpe.teksavvy.com) |
| 04:08.55 | *** join/#debian JagErLessen (~JagErLess@217.73.143.238) |
| 04:08.56 | llldino | Is there a global known_hosts file for ssh? I'm trying to use pam_sshauth and it's throwing: "Server is unknown, and strict checking enabled. Connection denied." |
| 04:09.36 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 04:09.52 | llldino | auth.log shows: "pam_sshauth(sudo:auth): Server not in known_hosts file." |
| 04:10.27 | *** join/#debian kristijonas (~kristijon@78-56-32-39.static.zebra.lt) |
| 04:10.38 | llldino | And yes, I'm trying to connect to localhost and localhost is indeed in ~user/.ssh/known_hosts as well as root's and in /etc/ssh |
| 04:10.38 | missmbob | llldino: set globalknownhostsfile in your sshd config and put it where someplace like /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts or whatever. dump all the hosts in there |
| 04:16.17 | llldino | missmbob, Seems that worked. Now pam_sshauth complains: "pam_sshauth(sudo:auth): Couldn't connect to 127.0.0.1." |
| 04:16.17 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 04:16.17 | Atm0spher1c | so debian is doing some really stupid shit, apt specifically |
| 04:16.17 | *** join/#debian styler2go (~styler2go@v22015051823525655.yourvserver.net) |
| 04:16.17 | Atm0spher1c | https://paste.debian.net/894159/ |
| 04:16.21 | Atm0spher1c | anyone make any sense of this mess? |
| 04:16.36 | *** join/#debian KOD3N (KODEN@gateway/shell/layerbnc/x-nksijlozrognlqfm) |
| 04:16.54 | missmbob | did you mix in deb-multimedia or something? |
| 04:17.04 | Atm0spher1c | no |
| 04:17.36 | llldino | It looks like something you're trying to install conflicts with another package that all of those programs are dependant on |
| 04:17.52 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 04:18.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1664] by debhelper |
| 04:18.29 | Atm0spher1c | i've backported a few packages and that's it. But if i want libasound2:i386 and the other stuff it needs, it wants to remove things |
| 04:18.31 | Atm0spher1c | so lame |
| 04:18.53 | Atm0spher1c | it looks like it conflicts, but it doesnt. |
| 04:19.07 | *** join/#debian clippng (~CHRONIC@2601:42:0:8bc4:ac1e:ff97:4654:9981) |
| 04:19.07 | *** join/#debian clippng (~CHRONIC@unaffiliated/clippng) |
| 04:19.08 | Atm0spher1c | libs conflict with gimp? mpv? ffmpeg? what? |
| 04:19.13 | missmbob | yeah backporting can do that. some packages need version = not >= or <= type of thing |
| 04:19.22 | missmbob | but *shurg* |
| 04:19.34 | roylaprattep | missmbob: It is working with my self signed finally, I made a typo! |
| 04:19.44 | missmbob | roylaprattep: great |
| 04:19.53 | roylaprattep | missmbob: Thank you so much, you're a boss! |
| 04:19.57 | *** join/#debian njumdl2014 (~njumdl201@c-98-235-164-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:20.03 | Atm0spher1c | yeah but these having nothing to do with packages i backported, those packages are fine |
| 04:20.35 | Atm0spher1c | im not gonna build anything out of chroot anymore |
| 04:21.10 | Atm0spher1c | too many devs and libs i installed for backporting |
| 04:23.00 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~arnoldas@78.157.71.116) |
| 04:23.04 | *** join/#debian fernie (~jarkko@80-186-17-232.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 04:23.23 | *** join/#debian th0r (~thor@tx-184-7-56-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 04:23.33 | n4dir | Atm0spher1c: what is the output if you command "apt-get autoremove -s" |
| 04:24.12 | n4dir | that is: is the removal related to the apt-get install at all, or is it required anyway? |
| 04:25.40 | Atm0spher1c | i cancelled that action, and just noted it. But it would remove those packages if I went through with the install. |
| 04:26.42 | n4dir | you could also look into aptitude --keep-all (but i sure am not that much in the subject. I usuay let apt remove whatever it wants to and install it again) |
| 04:26.50 | Atm0spher1c | would any of those i386 packages make a difference if I have the x64 installed from jessie-backports? |
| 04:27.09 | n4dir | doesn't look as if that was your problem, but it might offer help anyway: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=104157 |
| 04:27.10 | missmbob | yes. they have to be the same version |
| 04:27.22 | missmbob | you can't fix versions between archs |
| 04:27.25 | missmbob | mix* |
| 04:27.38 | Atm0spher1c | haha |
| 04:28.32 | *** join/#debian azarus (~azarus@2a02:120b:2c1d:210:a053:5ffc:d9e9:a41d) |
| 04:28.54 | Atm0spher1c | having this chat gave me the idea to grep which ones have backports |
| 04:29.09 | *** join/#debian frekal (~frekal@h-137-187.a159.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 04:29.13 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@216.123.253.30) |
| 04:29.25 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 04:29.37 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@209.222.168.248) |
| 04:30.27 | *** join/#debian idts (~lxuser@unaffiliated/tdis) |
| 04:30.34 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-10-50.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 04:31.54 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-sever1-nat-m.pilsfree.net) |
| 04:32.01 | *** join/#debian alfred_ (~quassel@2001:470:6d:890::30) |
| 04:33.25 | Atm0spher1c | what is a transitional dummy package? libegl1-mesa-drivers jessie-backport is installed and required |
| 04:34.07 | missmbob | say if a package changed names...it just points to the new name. or like when iceweasel turned into firefox. |
| 04:34.34 | Atm0spher1c | cool, how can I identify that name? |
| 04:34.55 | missmbob | should list it in apt-cache show |
| 04:36.13 | *** join/#debian cybiko123 (~cybiko123@unaffiliated/cybiko123) |
| 04:41.23 | *** join/#debian KineticShogun (~KineticSh@104.156.228.193) |
| 04:41.35 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 04:42.10 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@bb219-75-53-138.singnet.com.sg) |
| 04:43.29 | Atm0spher1c | okay its not x64 jessie-backport. Looks like I wont solve this without reinstall. Might be better to dual boot sid & stable as well. |
| 04:43.36 | Atm0spher1c | thanks anyway for the help all |
| 04:43.46 | *** join/#debian Riyria (~Riyria@machine77.Level3.com) |
| 04:44.57 | *** join/#debian anton02 (~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 04:45.42 | Atm0spher1c | looking forward to stretch stable. any release date guesses? |
| 04:45.55 | *** join/#debian n4dir1 (~user@pD9EF0EA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:46.37 | *** join/#debian z4g4 (~z4g4@2001:8a0:fcaf:7a01:7e1f:5ab3:9176:8c97) |
| 04:47.27 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 04:48.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1671] by debhelper |
| 04:48.47 | *** join/#debian maotm_ (~mao@81.24.87.130) |
| 04:49.17 | *** join/#debian [Saint] (~sinner@rockbox/staff/saint) |
| 04:49.58 | *** join/#debian InfoTest (~Thunderbi@tgn.126.68.187.dts.mg) |
| 04:51.55 | *** join/#debian OS-24749 (~OS-24749@128.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 04:52.25 | *** join/#debian austin987 (~null@cpe-72-182-39-163.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 04:54.55 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 04:55.54 | *** join/#debian dreki (~dreki@1.degga.net) |
| 04:56.06 | *** join/#debian SpacyTime (JeDa@codebottle.io/user/jeda) |
| 04:58.27 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 05:01.37 | *** join/#debian reev (~reev@123.63.166.181) |
| 05:01.40 | *** join/#debian pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) |
| 05:04.46 | *** join/#debian rsarson (~rsarson@2607:fea8:29e0:257:b5f8:b088:5053:892c) |
| 05:04.50 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@220-244-148-246.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 05:06.59 | *** join/#debian grim4593 (~grim4593@plasma.grimserve.com) |
| 05:10.45 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 05:11.44 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 05:12.16 | *** join/#debian ewl (~ewl@cpe-74-78-9-168.mass.res.rr.com) |
| 05:13.35 | *** join/#debian Willis (Willis@107.161.160.241) |
| 05:14.04 | *** join/#debian LiENUS (~quake@108-242-135-2.lightspeed.btrgla.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:18.02 | *** join/#debian comgot (~Icedove@116.47.0.59) |
| 05:22.06 | *** join/#debian h9 (Elite17198@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bdtpppjsmzqqylzo) |
| 05:22.16 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 05:22.24 | *** join/#debian Sunny_ (~textual@180.116.87.212) |
| 05:27.38 | *** join/#debian pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@unaffiliated/pingfloyd) |
| 05:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1664] by debhelper |
| 05:28.35 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@p5DD7BD10.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:28.56 | *** join/#debian pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) |
| 05:32.57 | *** join/#debian dmr (~dmr@fsf/member/dmr) |
| 05:34.37 | *** join/#debian u0_a27 (~u0_a27@83-162-45-226.ip.xs4all.nl) |
| 05:35.34 | *** join/#debian Guest80364 (~electro7@host86-162-141-198.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:38.27 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.196.84) |
| 05:40.04 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 05:40.20 | *** join/#debian blimpy (~jacob@S010600fc8d455bf3.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 05:43.23 | *** join/#debian tr3vor (~tr3vor@179.107.2.112) |
| 05:44.16 | *** join/#debian l3archos (~Icedove@unaffiliated/l3archos) |
| 05:46.07 | *** join/#debian OS-24749 (~OS-24749@128.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 05:47.03 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.196.84) |
| 05:47.14 | *** join/#debian falken1 (~falken@AMontpellier-654-1-104-9.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:48.55 | *** join/#debian mavhq (~quassel@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 05:51.24 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@98.210.76.30) |
| 05:51.24 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 05:51.48 | *** join/#debian awal1 (~awal1@199.241.132.84) |
| 05:56.43 | *** join/#debian KOD3N (KODEN@freebsd/lover/kod3n) |
| 05:57.35 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 05:58.18 | *** join/#debian t4nk015 (75dec454@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.222.196.84) |
| 05:59.00 | *** join/#debian monsune (~monsune@public-gprs402930.centertel.pl) |
| 06:01.13 | *** join/#debian MaggieC (~MaggieC@unaffiliated/maggiec) |
| 06:01.21 | *** join/#debian Voovode (~Alex@tenatena.static.otenet.gr) |
| 06:01.42 | *** join/#debian [Saint] (~sinner@rockbox/staff/saint) |
| 06:01.48 | *** join/#debian MaggieC (~MaggieC@unaffiliated/maggiec) |
| 06:03.56 | *** join/#debian c0mrad3 (uid26809@fedora/dhanvi) |
| 06:04.50 | *** join/#debian rosten (~rosten@cpe-45-48-9-161.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:05.43 | *** join/#debian booboy (~booboy@159.203.86.114) |
| 06:08.24 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@213.172.234.141) |
| 06:08.40 | t4nk015 | how to write guidelines for irc channel |
| 06:08.41 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 06:08.46 | *** join/#debian KyokoDebian (4d4da301@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.77.163.1) |
| 06:08.52 | *** part/#debian KyokoDebian (4d4da301@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.77.163.1) |
| 06:09.30 | *** join/#debian morphis_ (~morphis@p50862321.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:10.20 | *** join/#debian JagErLessen (~JagErLess@217.73.143.238) |
| 06:12.29 | *** join/#debian netsnail_ (~netsnail@1.180.235.36) |
| 06:12.51 | missmbob | uh. if you mean how to set the topic... /topic foo |
| 06:14.21 | *** join/#debian _sfiguser (~sfigguser@93-35-242-188.ip57.fastwebnet.it) |
| 06:14.38 | t4nk015 | missmbob: no , like /msg dpkg guidelines in debian channel |
| 06:15.58 | missmbob | you want to change a factoid to something else? /msg dpkg no, guidelines is foolio |
| 06:16.25 | t4nk015 | missmbob: how can i write foolio to my channel |
| 06:16.39 | missmbob | you need a bot in your channel if you want to have factoids |
| 06:16.54 | missmbob | otherwise just put it or a link to it in /topic |
| 06:17.00 | *** join/#debian OS-24695 (~OS-24695@106.209.151.53) |
| 06:20.25 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 06:22.24 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@98.210.76.30) |
| 06:22.25 | *** join/#debian patterson_ (~patterson@98.210.76.30) |
| 06:23.12 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.196.84) |
| 06:24.02 | *** join/#debian ataldis (~gabriel@2804:431:d709:b8a9:80d5:606:727f:ecfc) |
| 06:24.19 | *** part/#debian ataldis (~gabriel@2804:431:d709:b8a9:80d5:606:727f:ecfc) |
| 06:25.20 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 06:28.37 | *** join/#debian ransur0t (~ransur0t@173.240.243.165) |
| 06:30.44 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@220-244-148-246.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:30.51 | *** join/#debian dqsii (~dqsii@082.203-93-216-nokia-dsl.dynamic.surewest.net) |
| 06:31.05 | *** join/#debian spvkgn (~spvkgn@176.96.80.221) |
| 06:31.21 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 06:32.12 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 06:34.27 | *** join/#debian trCody (~trCody@2a02:908:b41:280:5d6a:41af:bae3:154a) |
| 06:34.42 | *** join/#debian jkhsjdhjs (jkhsjdhjs@unaffiliated/jkhsjdhjs) |
| 06:34.52 | *** join/#debian vincent_c (~bip@vcheng.org) |
| 06:38.29 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 06:39.01 | *** join/#debian fearnothing (~nothing@unaffiliated/fearnothing) |
| 06:43.32 | *** join/#debian jehaby (~urf@95-27-15-206.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 06:43.39 | *** join/#debian cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 06:44.40 | *** join/#debian mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) |
| 06:44.42 | *** join/#debian giricz81 (~quassel@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 06:46.07 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 06:46.59 | *** join/#debian n_blownapart (~john@2601:644:502:d470:9eef:d5ff:feff:34fe) |
| 06:49.00 | *** join/#debian Hootch1 (~Thunderbi@xdsl-84-44-228-71.netcologne.de) |
| 06:49.41 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 06:51.04 | *** join/#debian Nie (~Nie4@112.198.69.229) |
| 06:51.23 | Nie | hi? |
| 06:51.33 | *** join/#debian bhuddah (~michael@unaffiliated/bhuddah) |
| 06:52.57 | *** join/#debian danke (~danke@host86-137-44-30.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:53.02 | *** join/#debian LucaTM (~LucaTM@unaffiliated/lucatm) |
| 06:53.47 | *** join/#debian johanskizo (~johanskiz@120.188.0.23) |
| 06:54.16 | *** join/#debian btf (~btf@185.83.14.89) |
| 06:57.18 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.196.84) |
| 06:58.20 | *** join/#debian GJ_ (~Thunderbi@88.159.116.196) |
| 07:01.26 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 07:01.42 | *** join/#debian monpocchi (~monpocchi@unaffiliated/monpocchi) |
| 07:01.52 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@91.160.41.30) |
| 07:04.44 | *** join/#debian stenrose (~stenrose@martin.ilait.se) |
| 07:05.16 | *** join/#debian thebrush (~Icedove@91.187.199.106) |
| 07:05.49 | *** join/#debian wabuh (~wabuh@host-149-154-221-225.dynamic.voo.be) |
| 07:07.50 | *** join/#debian conta1 (~Thunderbi@94.112.251.98.static.b2b.upcbusiness.cz) |
| 07:08.35 | *** join/#debian tapacenbal (~tapacenba@235.75-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:08.37 | tapacenbal | hi |
| 07:08.57 | tapacenbal | are you able to display the phone number ? https://www.leboncoin.fr/locations/1047605427.htm?ca=24_s (click Voir le numéro) |
| 07:09.20 | *** part/#debian tapacenbal (~tapacenba@235.75-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:09.27 | *** join/#debian tapacenbal (~tapacenba@235.75-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:11.17 | awal1 | tapacenbal: do you have any debian question? |
| 07:11.28 | tapacenbal | ty for your help |
| 07:11.33 | *** part/#debian tapacenbal (~tapacenba@235.75-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:14.13 | *** join/#debian Dunpeal (~dante@79.116.215.89) |
| 07:14.13 | *** join/#debian pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) |
| 07:14.49 | *** join/#debian llucenic (~Thunderbi@rev-185-22-215-103.radiolan.sk) |
| 07:15.33 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.196.84) |
| 07:16.25 | *** join/#debian Pupp3tm4st3r (~pupp3tm4s@port-212-202-128-18.static.qsc.de) |
| 07:16.49 | *** join/#debian Dadou (~Dadou@LFbn-1-4345-61.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:17.07 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~bocaneri@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 07:18.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1671] by debhelper |
| 07:19.03 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 07:19.33 | *** join/#debian stenrose (~stenrose@martin.ilait.se) |
| 07:19.49 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.196.84) |
| 07:20.24 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 07:21.16 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@ip5f5bd492.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 07:21.16 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 07:21.57 | *** join/#debian chele (~chele@ip5b40c1c7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 07:24.55 | *** part/#debian blipz (~blipz@46.101.85.139) |
| 07:26.14 | *** join/#debian danke (~danke@host86-137-44-30.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:26.59 | *** join/#debian rjp25 (0e8bf052@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.240.82) |
| 07:27.20 | *** join/#debian soee (~soee@afct45.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 07:27.56 | *** join/#debian pav (~pav@93-138-40-253.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 07:29.27 | *** join/#debian InfoTest (~Thunderbi@tgn.126.68.187.dts.mg) |
| 07:30.51 | rjp25 | How can i contribute to debian open source? |
| 07:31.08 | *** join/#debian Nematocyst (~eric@174-28-91-5.albq.qwest.net) |
| 07:31.39 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 07:31.47 | Epakai | !how-can-i-help |
| 07:31.47 | dpkg | Want to help out with Debian and become more involved in the Debian project? The tools wnpp-alert, rc-alert (both from the devscripts package) and how-can-i-help can provide inspiration on buggy or unmaintained packages that you have installed on your system. Ask me about <wnpp>, <rc-alert>, <devscripts>, <new maintainer guide>. https://debian.org/intro/help |
| 07:31.58 | *** join/#debian flashdisastr (~slos@79.115.160.65) |
| 07:32.26 | *** join/#debian Sergi010 (~Ser010@nat.virtu.nl) |
| 07:32.34 | *** part/#debian Sergi010 (~Ser010@nat.virtu.nl) |
| 07:34.25 | Nematocyst | when inserting thumb drive, the partitions automount correctly, but the cinnamon desktop icons display glitches, looking double-striked and even in the wrong places. rebooting fixes the desktop icons, but it just happens again when inserting a thumb drive |
| 07:34.36 | *** join/#debian melvin (~melvin@c-73-154-77-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 07:35.14 | *** join/#debian me (~meme@80.188.28.42) |
| 07:35.18 | *** join/#debian Furai (~Furai@furai.pl) |
| 07:38.51 | *** join/#debian bollo (~bollo@unaffiliated/bollo) |
| 07:40.14 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@5-255-217-91.xlab.si) |
| 07:41.18 | *** join/#debian Granis (~Granis@c-92c5e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:43.48 | *** join/#debian CatBehemoth (~vasyl@lnglpq6100w-lp130-02-76-65-86-84.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:44.33 | *** join/#debian OS-24749 (~OS-24749@128.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:45.22 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@5-255-217-91.xlab.si) |
| 07:45.42 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 07:47.12 | *** join/#debian arturo (~arturo@r2d2.cica.es) |
| 07:47.34 | *** join/#debian MrNeon (~MrNeon@a109-48-102-44.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 07:48.17 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 07:48.31 | *** join/#debian jazz (~jazz@graf.univ-tlse3.fr) |
| 07:48.37 | *** join/#debian Elirips (~Elirips@242.109.22.178.ftth.as8758.net) |
| 07:49.07 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 07:49.23 | *** join/#debian gebruiker (~gebruiker@77-172-237-233.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 07:49.39 | *** join/#debian Levure (~quassel@109.132.56.75) |
| 07:49.50 | gebruiker | Guys - I backported two packages from sid to jessie. Is there anywhere I can upload them? |
| 07:50.16 | gebruiker | i.e would you recommend submitting to backports? |
| 07:50.35 | gebruiker | The packages are just two theme packages, numix and greybrid |
| 07:51.05 | *** join/#debian n4dir (~user@pD9EF0EA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:51.39 | *** join/#debian wabuh (~wabuh@host-149-154-221-225.dynamic.voo.be) |
| 07:51.43 | *** join/#debian xormor (~xormor@unaffiliated/xormor) |
| 07:52.25 | *** join/#debian renard_arg (~renard_ar@193.51.174.3) |
| 07:52.52 | *** join/#debian ToBeCloud (uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree) |
| 07:53.46 | *** join/#debian TsukiRa (~fpob@89.24.242.206) |
| 07:54.03 | *** join/#debian Newsense (62e400ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.228.0.236) |
| 07:54.17 | *** join/#debian pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) |
| 07:55.15 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@static-84-242-71-62.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 07:56.40 | Newsense | Trying to install Debian but software install step failes and bootloader step failes |
| 07:57.24 | *** join/#debian renard_arg (~renard_ar@193.51.174.3) |
| 07:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1680] by debhelper |
| 07:58.07 | *** join/#debian jesopo (jess@lolnerd.net) |
| 07:58.41 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@159.22.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 07:58.52 | *** join/#debian noxs (~noxs@p5DD8F727.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:59.00 | *** join/#debian btf (~btf@185.83.14.89) |
| 08:00.04 | *** join/#debian Gnomethrower (~B@unaffiliated/gnomethrower) |
| 08:00.07 | gebruiker | Newsense: what error message? You can switch the consoles to see more output |
| 08:00.27 | gebruiker | ctrl+alt+f6 from memmory |
| 08:00.57 | Newsense | I'm trying again now, I'll post error if it happens again |
| 08:01.31 | Newsense | Ok happened again |
| 08:02.16 | *** join/#debian knucklebug (~chucklebu@mail.vescent.com) |
| 08:02.51 | Newsense | In x says installation step failed |
| 08:03.13 | gebruiker | What installation step are you at? |
| 08:03.17 | Newsense | Select and install software failed |
| 08:03.21 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@5-255-217-91.xlab.si) |
| 08:03.39 | gebruiker | are you connected to the internet on that box? |
| 08:03.48 | Newsense | Yes |
| 08:03.49 | gebruiker | what type of installer do you have ? |
| 08:03.59 | Newsense | Usb |
| 08:04.57 | gebruiker | alright,try switching to another console using ctrl+alt+f6 ( press simultanously ). The other console has more verbose output of what is the cause of the failure |
| 08:04.58 | Newsense | If I skip it and try to install grub or lilo that fails too |
| 08:05.06 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 08:05.37 | Newsense | That gives me no output |
| 08:06.02 | *** join/#debian GabrieleV (~GabrieleV@host168-114-static.58-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:06.16 | gebruiker | try the other consoles f5, f4, f8 etc.. i am not sure which one has the verbose output |
| 08:06.19 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 08:06.20 | *** join/#debian booboy (~booboy@c-50-129-174-141.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 08:06.32 | *** join/#debian super_gollum (~ich@ip-176-198-220-171.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 08:06.45 | Newsense | Tasksel erro3 code 100 |
| 08:06.59 | *** join/#debian Anonymes (uid168604@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wgjsaaekubongqkk) |
| 08:07.02 | Newsense | Er pkgsel |
| 08:07.20 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 08:07.48 | Newsense | Pkgsel error 100 |
| 08:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1686] by debhelper |
| 08:08.50 | *** join/#debian soee_ (~soee@dsq225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 08:09.25 | gebruiker | Are you installing from the net or an installation media? if net-download, disable it using expert installation |
| 08:09.46 | Newsense | Usb media |
| 08:09.48 | *** join/#debian foka (~foka@198-48-139-3.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 08:10.44 | gebruiker | debian can be installed using various images, i.e one that is depended on an internet connection and others that have all the software on the iso |
| 08:11.37 | gebruiker | try using the image that has all the software on it : https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| 08:11.45 | Newsense | I'll do an expert install, should have started there probably, been a while |
| 08:11.57 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 08:12.20 | *** join/#debian beatdown (beatdown@chainsawed.and.strangled.net) |
| 08:12.22 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.219.245.79) |
| 08:13.59 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 08:14.09 | Newsense | Thanks @gebruiker this feels mich for familiar to me, pretty sure an expert install will work |
| 08:14.23 | gebruiker | great |
| 08:14.42 | *** join/#debian MicroCheapFx (~quassel@62.102.229.129) |
| 08:14.49 | *** join/#debian akwiatkowski (~bobik314@dhcp95-108-46-76.eaw.com.pl) |
| 08:15.49 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-68-57-232-239.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 08:16.19 | *** join/#debian gorst0112 (~user@c-73-221-123-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 08:16.19 | gorst0112 | pache |
| 08:16.54 | *** join/#debian chucklebug_ (~chucklebu@mail.vescent.com) |
| 08:17.14 | *** join/#debian remo (~remo@167-112-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 08:17.31 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 08:18.19 | *** join/#debian stojic (~ivstojic@dynamic-adsl-84-220-120-127.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 08:18.19 | *** join/#debian stojic (~ivstojic@unaffiliated/stojic) |
| 08:18.49 | *** join/#debian sliekas99 (~mantas@213.164.98.77) |
| 08:19.12 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~jurisl@cpc74579-lewi13-2-0-cust201.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:20.21 | *** join/#debian woshty (~irc@HSI-KBW-078-043-033-223.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 08:20.35 | *** join/#debian Slydder (~chuck@2a02:8108:54c0:5128:69ce:423d:980e:f58a) |
| 08:20.43 | *** join/#debian torjeh (~Torje@100.92-220-223.customer.lyse.net) |
| 08:21.21 | *** join/#debian subzero79 (~subzero79@106-69-93-42.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:21.24 | *** join/#debian Anonymes (uid168604@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hvbldyzrhaqycrre) |
| 08:21.37 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@bb219-75-53-138.singnet.com.sg) |
| 08:21.51 | *** join/#debian DinosaurGoblin (~user@c-73-221-123-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 08:22.50 | *** join/#debian DinoGoblin (~user@c-73-221-123-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 08:23.39 | *** join/#debian shann (~shann@130.193.24.135) |
| 08:23.44 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 08:25.12 | *** join/#debian TomyWork (~tomy@85.199.84.100) |
| 08:25.45 | *** join/#debian DinosaurGoblin (~user@c-73-221-123-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 08:25.46 | *** join/#debian Cueball (lee@11.21.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 08:26.47 | *** join/#debian n4dir (~user@pD9EF0EA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:26.59 | *** join/#debian ffatman (~ffamousff@2a01:e35:8ad7:6b60:cfd:399:6c2d:58e1) |
| 08:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1697] by debhelper |
| 08:28.07 | *** join/#debian zerete (~qkthr@cm-188-171-3-59.telecable.es) |
| 08:28.19 | *** join/#debian knucklebug (~chucklebu@mail.vescent.com) |
| 08:28.36 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.219.245.79) |
| 08:28.49 | *** join/#debian Drzacek (~Drzacek@dslb-088-078-006-067.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 08:29.26 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 08:29.52 | *** join/#debian ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@87.117.15.99) |
| 08:31.17 | Newsense | So far so good |
| 08:31.31 | Newsense | What is the latest kernel |
| 08:32.23 | *** join/#debian OS-23863 (~OS-23863@dslb-178-009-008-082.178.009.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 08:33.24 | *** join/#debian JagErLessen (~JagErLess@79.106.23.165) |
| 08:34.05 | *** join/#debian hhmmm (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 08:35.37 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 08:35.53 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@unaffiliated/bnw) |
| 08:37.10 | Newsense | Is anyone running testing, safe to upgrade? |
| 08:37.22 | *** join/#debian canopus (~canopus@unaffiliated/pierrot) |
| 08:37.23 | *** join/#debian yaume (~gchenuet@46.231.131.178) |
| 08:38.54 | jelly | Newsense: "anyone" -- yes, "safe" -- not really, if it was safe we'd have a new stable |
| 08:39.42 | Newsense | You know what I mean |
| 08:40.22 | jelly | I don't. Different people keep different assumptions |
| 08:40.45 | Newsense | I usdd to run testing for years, been on windows for like 3 years so I haven't touched Debian in a while |
| 08:41.04 | n4dir | You must first ask yourself why you want to run testing, perhaps for that there is a different solution (which would be backports) |
| 08:41.25 | Newsense | True |
| 08:41.39 | n4dir | but if you ran testing for years, you should know that in general it is rather safe to run it ... no? |
| 08:41.56 | jelly | if you want to help the next release with filing and fixing bugs, now's the best time to upgrade to testing as it enters the freeze process |
| 08:42.01 | *** join/#debian G0BL1Z (~AndChat52@2607:fb90:f84:c148:4976:c4d2:8944:1c5f) |
| 08:42.08 | Newsense | Yes, at least it was a few years ago |
| 08:42.28 | n4dir | make sure to install apt-listbugs |
| 08:43.08 | *** join/#debian gump (~gump___@rrcs-50-84-151-66.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 08:43.08 | jelly | usability of "testing" varies greatly with different phases of the release process |
| 08:43.14 | Newsense | I remember that package;) |
| 08:43.38 | n4dir | yeah, just saying. |
| 08:44.03 | Newsense | Thanks for the help guys |
| 08:44.14 | Newsense | Sorry I had to ask |
| 08:44.23 | *** join/#debian G0BL1Z (~G0BL1Z@2607:fb90:f84:c148:4976:c4d2:8944:1c5f) |
| 08:44.45 | jelly | !stretch freeze |
| 08:44.45 | dpkg | Stretch will start to freeze in early 2017; no new versions of packages will enter the release as this is a period of intense bug fixing. See http://lists.debian.org/%3C20160303221359.GA1401@lupin.powdarrmonkey.net%3E https://release.debian.org/stretch/ and ask me about <slushy>. |
| 08:44.47 | n4dir | might be better to ask it in #debian-next too. i didn't say any messages there bout horrible bugs , but don't follow that close |
| 08:45.10 | jelly | Newsense: see also: /msg dpkg debian-next, /msg dpkg jessie->stretch |
| 08:45.18 | *** join/#debian soee (~soee@user-46-112-203-127.play-internet.pl) |
| 08:45.29 | Ticho | Stretch just needs to pay his heating bill :) |
| 08:45.39 | *** join/#debian G0BL1Z (~G0BL1Z@2607:fb90:f84:c148:4976:c4d2:8944:1c5f) |
| 08:45.40 | Newsense | Is jessie the boy from toy story? |
| 08:46.01 | preaction | no. she's the cowgirl |
| 08:46.06 | preaction | max is the boy |
| 08:46.17 | preaction | sorry, andy |
| 08:46.17 | Newsense | Sid was the last release I ran |
| 08:46.17 | *** join/#debian G0BL1Z (~G0BL1Z@2607:fb90:f84:c148:4976:c4d2:8944:1c5f) |
| 08:46.28 | preaction | sid isn't a release |
| 08:46.34 | Newsense | Who is Jessie? |
| 08:46.36 | Ticho | sid is eternal :) |
| 08:46.43 | preaction | jessie is the cowgirl |
| 08:46.50 | Newsense | Oh |
| 08:46.51 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@host81-130-206-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 08:47.08 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 08:47.18 | *** join/#debian G0BL1Z (~G0BL1Z@2607:fb90:f84:c148:4976:c4d2:8944:1c5f) |
| 08:47.31 | Newsense | Oh yeah sid is always unstable, forogt |
| 08:48.30 | Newsense | I ran sid for a while but dependency problems were a bitch |
| 08:49.25 | *** join/#debian g33kzd3n761 (75dbf54f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.219.245.79) |
| 08:51.10 | Shadur | That's why it's *called* unstable. Generally just use apt-get -uf upgrade and don't try to force stuff that's marked as 'being held back' until and unless you're sure that 1) you want the new thing and 2) it won't delete something you don't want gone. |
| 08:51.13 | *** join/#debian Pjusur (~Pjusur@ti0035a400-0648.bb.online.no) |
| 08:52.00 | *** join/#debian Guest80364 (~electro7@host86-162-141-198.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:53.03 | *** join/#debian OS-24695 (~OS-24695@106.209.151.53) |
| 08:53.11 | Newsense | What's the package to create Debian packages? Forgot the name |
| 08:53.42 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 08:54.12 | *** join/#debian Dracunos (~Dracunos@cpe-66-74-75-134.dc.res.rr.com) |
| 08:54.42 | *** join/#debian vila (~vila@lec67-4-82-230-53-244.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:55.44 | *** join/#debian kristijonas (~kristijon@78-56-32-39.static.zebra.lt) |
| 08:56.05 | Newsense | Anyone here into crypto? |
| 08:57.34 | OpenTokix | Can't say my entire desktop is just garbled text. |
| 08:57.34 | jelly | Newsense: if you want to chat, try #debian-offtopic -- this channel is more about specific issues |
| 08:57.40 | *** join/#debian edgrey (~edgrey@178.204.80.109) |
| 08:57.51 | *** join/#debian David_Hernandez (~David_Her@248.red-88-16-8.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:58.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1688] by debhelper |
| 08:58.04 | *** join/#debian poleprogger (~mj@host103-2.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 08:58.19 | *** join/#debian gump (~gump___@rrcs-50-84-151-66.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 08:58.30 | *** join/#debian LorD_n1c0w (~igorhenri@177.75.77.4) |
| 09:01.23 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.197.98) |
| 09:01.43 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~agiofws@2a02:582:7c99:de00:196c:d996:157c:b919) |
| 09:02.37 | *** join/#debian AusteritySucks (~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks) |
| 09:03.31 | *** join/#debian g33kzd3n925 (75dec562@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.222.197.98) |
| 09:04.11 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 09:04.25 | *** join/#debian samodid (~vsamodid@2001:67c:1324:cf01::1000) |
| 09:05.07 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@5-255-217-91.xlab.si) |
| 09:05.10 | *** join/#debian remo (~remo@142-219-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 09:05.19 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 09:07.46 | *** join/#debian Gi0_ (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 09:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1694] by debhelper |
| 09:08.09 | *** join/#debian xormor (~xormor@unaffiliated/xormor) |
| 09:08.27 | *** join/#debian halbomin (~textual@195.128.229.8) |
| 09:09.30 | *** join/#debian z0ran (~z0ran@77.105.40.98) |
| 09:09.40 | *** join/#debian killian99 (~killian99@jol13-4-78-235-25-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:11.59 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@115.red-2-139-166.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:12.09 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 09:12.27 | *** join/#debian milindjoshi (~milind@49.35.224.225) |
| 09:15.23 | *** join/#debian root-x (~root-x@unaffiliated/root-x) |
| 09:15.34 | *** join/#debian yht (~yht@115.178.194.65) |
| 09:16.39 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 09:17.15 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 09:18.34 | *** join/#debian Slashman (~Slash@cosium-152-18.fib.nerim.net) |
| 09:19.31 | *** join/#debian root-x (~root-x@unaffiliated/root-x) |
| 09:19.56 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 09:20.26 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.222.197.98) |
| 09:21.31 | *** join/#debian lucad111 (~lucad111@51-148-40-1.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 09:24.28 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 09:27.23 | *** join/#debian nikoma (~nikoma@ip4-95-82-164-56.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 09:27.37 | *** join/#debian uaides (~uaides@ec2-54-198-54-123.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 09:27.52 | *** join/#debian GJ_ (~Thunderbi@88.159.116.196) |
| 09:31.45 | *** join/#debian betandr (~betandr@132.185.153.7) |
| 09:32.43 | *** join/#debian oish_ (~charlie@85.159.94.30) |
| 09:34.02 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 09:35.12 | *** join/#debian knidos (~knidos@88.246.59.10) |
| 09:36.33 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.66.0) |
| 09:36.43 | *** join/#debian Rephlexie (~Rephlexie@c-98-206-218-35.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 09:37.05 | *** join/#debian GrimBat (~GrimBat@unaffiliated/grimbat) |
| 09:37.15 | *** join/#debian root-x (~root-x@unaffiliated/root-x) |
| 09:41.18 | *** join/#debian Ticho_ (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 09:43.27 | *** join/#debian mazert_ (~mazert@52.109.94.80.dynamic.monaco.mc) |
| 09:44.52 | *** join/#debian mrkebab (~mk@2a01:e34:ee43:d1d0:a60:6eff:fe10:abfc) |
| 09:45.23 | *** join/#debian Domhack (~Domhack@89-71-188-82.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 09:45.42 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 09:46.29 | *** join/#debian Newsense (62e400ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.228.0.236) |
| 09:46.43 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 09:47.26 | Newsense | So I tried expert mode but installation still fails at installing software |
| 09:48.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1688] by debhelper |
| 09:48.51 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@epf253.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:49.22 | jelly | Newsense: do you have internet connection working in the installer? |
| 09:49.28 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 09:49.45 | *** join/#debian aton` (~aton@unaffiliated/aton) |
| 09:49.51 | Newsense | Yes I do |
| 09:50.10 | Newsense | Ipv4 and 6 |
| 09:50.31 | *** join/#debian Cavedude (~Cavedude@unaffiliated/cavedude) |
| 09:50.59 | Newsense | This thing had windows 8 running fine |
| 09:51.51 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@117.216.141.236) |
| 09:52.27 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 09:53.43 | *** join/#debian CME (~CME@ip9234d04d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 09:54.06 | *** join/#debian Schmantinski (~cmantsch@ip4d16b394.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 09:55.23 | *** join/#debian SuperSeriousCat (~SuperSeri@unaffiliated/superseriouscat) |
| 09:56.18 | *** join/#debian Specialist (~tg@2001:4dd0:fe44:0:fbd9:b1aa:ee05:cf87) |
| 09:56.25 | *** join/#debian amcorreia (~amcorreia@2804:7f5:280:985d::1) |
| 09:56.26 | *** join/#debian jmnk (jargonmonk@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-drfznqlujpwubmbf) |
| 09:57.25 | *** join/#debian d3lphi (~d3lphi@unaffiliated/d3lphi) |
| 09:59.22 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 10:00.42 | *** join/#debian super_gollum (~ich@ip-176-198-220-171.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 10:01.19 | *** join/#debian Jacob843 (~Jacob843@109.201.138.232) |
| 10:04.04 | *** join/#debian Newsense (62e400ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.228.0.236) |
| 10:04.34 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 10:05.10 | *** join/#debian c0mrad3 (uid26809@fedora/dhanvi) |
| 10:05.13 | *** join/#debian Fr_Dae (~Dae@did75-h11-89-86-12-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 10:05.37 | *** join/#debian jbitdrop (~jbitdrop@x55b57611.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 10:06.25 | Newsense | Install fails at installing software |
| 10:06.33 | *** join/#debian Dunpeal (~dante@79.116.215.89) |
| 10:06.54 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 10:07.49 | *** join/#debian Johann (~johann@6-8.fr) |
| 10:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1694] by debhelper |
| 10:08.36 | *** join/#debian Guest74603 (~johnny@2601:243:c201:55a7:6811:8adc:7fe1:a124) |
| 10:10.47 | *** join/#debian gebruiker (~gebruiker@77-172-237-233.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 10:12.11 | *** join/#debian Orbstheorem (~roosember@orbstheorem.ch) |
| 10:14.50 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 10:15.04 | *** join/#debian t0mmy (~tprrt@217.114.201.133) |
| 10:16.22 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 10:17.48 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 10:19.17 | *** join/#debian TsukiRa (~fpob@37-48-39-166.tmcz.cz) |
| 10:20.08 | *** join/#debian withnale (~withnale@cpc13-lewi14-2-0-cust837.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 10:21.25 | *** join/#debian ilyaman (ilyaman@nat/novell/x-rdyunzkutvlusaxu) |
| 10:21.35 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 10:21.39 | withnale | Has anyone ever seen a problem in jessie when running a sysv script managed by systemd, where 'service <servicename> start' seems to run the script but doesn't end up with the daemon running, but running the equivalent '/etc/init.d/<servicename> start' or 'systemctl start <servicename>' work fine? |
| 10:22.44 | *** join/#debian M-alex_mayorga (alexmayorg@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rdhryznmpzovzpqu) |
| 10:23.56 | *** join/#debian pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) |
| 10:24.01 | *** join/#debian SpaceAce (~SpaceAce@124-149-89-143.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 10:24.38 | *** join/#debian manjaro (~manjaro@p5B3C8060.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:25.29 | *** join/#debian otyugh_II (~otyugh_V@ARennes-251-1-223-147.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1703] by debhelper |
| 10:28.35 | *** join/#debian Guest45743 (tjubergmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eiwakhgmrsobqlkk) |
| 10:28.35 | *** join/#debian M-wkennington (wkenningto@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-beorgrwokzsjkxpw) |
| 10:28.35 | *** join/#debian M-shine (shinematri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-howtkahdallowzqq) |
| 10:28.35 | *** join/#debian gwaaf (gwaafmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-blllqmanvpbqashw) |
| 10:29.02 | *** join/#debian sg (~textual@ppp59-167-121-22.static.internode.on.net) |
| 10:29.05 | *** join/#debian Karazhan (~nobody@kingslanding.unix-experience.fr) |
| 10:29.09 | *** join/#debian macartur (~macartur@201.6.131.67) |
| 10:29.25 | *** join/#debian skwlkr__ (~skwlkr_@p508BAAAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:29.44 | manjaro | Client: HexChat 2.12.1 ⢠OS: ManjaroLinux "Daniella" 16.06.1 ⢠CPU: VIA C7-M Processor 1000MHz (1000MHz) ⢠Memory: Physical: 454.5 MiB Total (238.9 MiB Free) Swap: 0 bytes Total (0 bytes Free) ⢠Storage: 1.4 GB / 3.2 GB (1.8 GB Free) ⢠VGA: VIA Technologies, Inc. VX800/VX820 Chrome 9 HC3 Integrated Graphics @ VIA Technologies, Inc. VX800 Host Bridge ⢠Uptime: 40m 3s |
| 10:29.48 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 10:30.30 | *** join/#debian bolovanos (~bolovanos@91.201.22.5) |
| 10:31.01 | *** join/#debian Karazhan (~nobody@kingslanding.unix-experience.fr) |
| 10:31.04 | *** join/#debian m1911 (~m1911@47.90.89.200) |
| 10:35.35 | *** join/#debian satbyy (~Satish_By@freeshell.de) |
| 10:35.35 | *** join/#debian satbyy (~Satish_By@unaffiliated/satbyy) |
| 10:37.58 | *** join/#debian risq (~risq@AGrenoble-651-1-390-76.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:41.32 | *** join/#debian jazz (~jazz@wifi-eduroam-trans.univ-tlse3.fr) |
| 10:42.15 | *** join/#debian OS-24695 (~OS-24695@27.5.69.9) |
| 10:44.14 | *** join/#debian OS-24669 (~OS-24669@213.244.170.155) |
| 10:44.28 | *** join/#debian MaBunny (~neelz@117.194.203.110) |
| 10:45.24 | *** join/#debian b3h3m0th (uid26288@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlyhkmhvxgtvnjyb) |
| 10:45.55 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 10:47.26 | *** join/#debian MaBunny (~Peter@117.194.203.110) |
| 10:47.45 | *** join/#debian mise (~user@185.108.128.7) |
| 10:48.38 | *** join/#debian Filiphe (~Filiphe@151.50.186.40) |
| 10:49.06 | *** join/#debian biberu (~biberu@c-f3d571d5.08-441-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:49.35 | *** join/#debian Neptoun (~neptoun@a89-182-176-56.net-htp.de) |
| 10:49.45 | *** part/#debian Neptoun (~neptoun@a89-182-176-56.net-htp.de) |
| 10:50.17 | *** join/#debian miseme (~user@185.108.128.7) |
| 10:50.20 | *** join/#debian valerio (~valerio`@unaffiliated/valerio/x-9242161) |
| 10:50.36 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 10:51.40 | mise | test |
| 10:51.57 | petn-randall | test failed |
| 10:52.06 | mise | damn |
| 10:52.18 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 10:52.36 | *** join/#debian h1t3sh (~h1t3sh@63-149-188-150.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 10:53.21 | petn-randall | damn: command not found |
| 10:54.34 | *** join/#debian xiaodong (~xiaodong@114.111.167.253) |
| 10:54.50 | *** join/#debian MaggieC (~MaggieC@unaffiliated/maggiec) |
| 10:55.23 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~ghost@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 10:56.10 | *** join/#debian Drzacek (~Drzacek@dslb-088-078-006-067.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 10:56.20 | *** join/#debian Jurkki (~jukka@a88-114-70-83.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 10:56.51 | mise | rm petn-randall :) |
| 10:57.05 | *** join/#debian root-x (~root-x@unaffiliated/root-x) |
| 10:57.50 | *** join/#debian l0xas (~unix@unaffiliated/l0xas) |
| 10:58.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1710] by debhelper |
| 10:59.14 | *** join/#debian MolluskEmpire (quassel@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-oczdsolqgjbptjpe) |
| 11:01.56 | *** join/#debian kedare (~Kedare@151.182.99.11) |
| 11:01.58 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@45.122.140.159) |
| 11:03.46 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 11:04.05 | *** join/#debian karimb (~karimb@89.107.183.7) |
| 11:04.50 | *** join/#debian philamonster (~philamons@104.244.194.24) |
| 11:05.16 | *** join/#debian r4co0n (~r4co0n@unaffiliated/r4co0n) |
| 11:05.34 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:06.03 | *** join/#debian alowinz (~lnx@47.pool85-61-185.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 11:06.41 | *** join/#debian thebrush (~Icedove@91.187.199.106) |
| 11:07.10 | *** join/#debian clopez (~tau@neutrino.es) |
| 11:08.39 | *** join/#debian jazz (~jazz@graf.univ-tlse3.fr) |
| 11:10.50 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@158.69.114.146) |
| 11:11.07 | *** join/#debian johnny (~johnny@2601:243:c201:55a7:a141:8804:469c:4cbe) |
| 11:11.08 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 11:14.56 | *** join/#debian makimaki (~makimaki`@jedenzero7-dziewiectrzy.echostar.pl) |
| 11:15.01 | *** join/#debian oish_ (~charlie@85.159.94.30) |
| 11:17.11 | *** join/#debian resurtm (~resurtm@2.132.97.201) |
| 11:17.40 | *** join/#debian hugleo (~ths@unaffiliated/hugleo) |
| 11:18.16 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~ocbtec@x55b57611.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 11:19.29 | *** join/#debian RageNorge (~electro7@ti0150a400-0446.bb.online.no) |
| 11:21.39 | *** join/#debian OS-24669 (~OS-24669@213.244.170.155) |
| 11:22.42 | *** join/#debian Percevan (50d74d12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.215.77.18) |
| 11:22.43 | *** join/#debian lss8 (~lss8@unaffiliated/lss8) |
| 11:23.00 | *** join/#debian PseudoNoob (~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob) |
| 11:23.19 | *** join/#debian TomTomTo1 (~henryk@unaffiliated/tomtomtosch) |
| 11:25.31 | Percevan | Hello, why i have the nouveau module loaded whereas the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is not installed ? |
| 11:26.08 | hugleo | Does anybody think is possible that I got a little more performance or stability in network stack if I recompile the kernel disabling some things like I don't use like wireless, drivers, etc? |
| 11:26.51 | Ke | hugleo: unlikely |
| 11:27.56 | nkuttler | hugleo: performance, perhaps, but not that you'd notice in 2016 |
| 11:28.20 | *** join/#debian root-x (~root-x@unaffiliated/root-x) |
| 11:28.24 | ksk | hugleo: hell no :) If you did supercomputer things maybe, but not in normal usage. |
| 11:28.29 | Ke | wireless drivers are not loaded, if you don't have them |
| 11:28.53 | Ke | them as in hw |
| 11:28.58 | *** join/#debian otyugh_II (~otyugh_V@ARennes-251-1-223-147.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:28.58 | *** join/#debian hhmmm (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 11:29.21 | *** join/#debian MrNeon (~MrNeon@a109-48-102-44.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 11:30.17 | hugleo | but wireless support and others things in kernel you need some more if else stuffs, others fields in kernel structure... :D |
| 11:30.19 | *** join/#debian root-x (~root-x@unaffiliated/root-x) |
| 11:30.26 | Ke | better boot time is the thing that is easiest to gain |
| 11:30.39 | *** join/#debian karimb (~karimb@89.107.183.7) |
| 11:30.47 | *** join/#debian betandr (~betandr@132.185.153.7) |
| 11:30.55 | Ke | but probably not even that is visible |
| 11:31.29 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 11:31.30 | *** join/#debian stoffepojken (~stoffe@h-148-185.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 11:31.52 | nkuttler | stopped building custom kernels for performance reasons more than a decade ago |
| 11:32.20 | *** join/#debian Quatroking (~Quatrokin@50709887.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 11:33.12 | *** join/#debian meiyopeng (~none@3c.66.32a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com) |
| 11:33.15 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 11:33.48 | hugleo | and stability improbable too? |
| 11:34.34 | nkuttler | never really had problems with unstable kernels |
| 11:35.07 | nkuttler | i mean, sure things that don't work, that's normal, but always in a predictable way |
| 11:36.05 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 11:37.28 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:37.31 | *** join/#debian betandr (~betandr@132.185.153.7) |
| 11:37.55 | icebrain | hugleo: if you have the hardware but don't need it, you can blacklist the modules |
| 11:38.09 | icebrain | still, not sure if it would gain you anything |
| 11:40.37 | hugleo | yes, I was talking more about stuff that is only static compiled and can be compile like modules |
| 11:41.32 | *** join/#debian SirShmoopy (~yshi@pool-100-4-200-10.albyny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 11:42.13 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 11:42.14 | hugleo | by example ipsec, multicasting |
| 11:43.36 | *** join/#debian pixel88 (~joshua@CPEbc4dfbf57e03-CMbc4dfbf57e00.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 11:43.41 | hugleo | L3 Master device support (This module provides glue between core networking code and device drivers to support L3 master devices like VRF. ) |
| 11:43.58 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 11:44.18 | hugleo | can be compiled like module |
| 11:44.25 | hugleo | *can't |
| 11:45.05 | icebrain | then I defer to the people above :) |
| 11:45.40 | hugleo | maybe without the glue I could get more stability, never knows :) |
| 11:45.40 | jelly | hugleo: if you have enough know-how and good testers to make your own kernel more stable and more tested than the one used daily by 99% of debian users... do it! |
| 11:47.09 | *** join/#debian RogueEcho (~RogueEcho@c-73-250-116-54.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 11:47.27 | *** join/#debian n4dir (~user@pD9EF0EA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:48.36 | hugleo | good point |
| 11:48.49 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:50.03 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 11:52.13 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.66.0) |
| 11:52.24 | *** join/#debian julius_ (~jason4@dslb-092-077-030-144.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 11:53.18 | *** join/#debian saturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:54.16 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 11:54.33 | *** join/#debian visual (~save_chan@unaffiliated/visual) |
| 11:55.04 | *** join/#debian MrNeon (~MrNeon@a109-48-102-44.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 11:56.10 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogur2@190.210.94.116) |
| 11:56.47 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 11:57.17 | *** join/#debian otyugh_II (~otyugh_V@ARennes-251-1-223-147.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:58.06 | *** join/#debian OS-23863 (~OS-23863@dslb-178-009-008-082.178.009.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 12:00.20 | visual | hi guuys |
| 12:01.51 | *** join/#debian xiaodong (~xiaodong@114.111.167.253) |
| 12:02.12 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 12:05.04 | *** join/#debian meiyopeng (~none@27.17.20.242) |
| 12:05.21 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@dgd9xwyjf64pdd6xk-29t-3.rev.dnainternet.fi) |
| 12:05.21 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 12:06.07 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:06.26 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:07.43 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 12:08.07 | FinalX | apt question... just double-checking, but dpkg --purge on packages in 'rc' state (config files leftovers) will leave config files alone that are still managed through other, actively installed (ii) packages, right? |
| 12:08.09 | apt | FinalX: what are you talking about? |
| 12:08.13 | FinalX | heh :) |
| 12:08.25 | FinalX | didn't realise the bot would respond |
| 12:08.27 | *** join/#debian nighty (~nighty@sp1-79-81-130.msb.spmode.ne.jp) |
| 12:08.43 | *** join/#debian meiyopeng1 (~none@3c.66.32a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com) |
| 12:08.44 | visual | he's not a bot lol |
| 12:09.00 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 12:10.20 | *** join/#debian mekeor (~user@2001:a61:2261:6f01:c6d9:87ff:fe26:2947) |
| 12:12.21 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:12.23 | *** join/#debian afx_ (~afx_@195.46.27.228) |
| 12:13.23 | *** join/#debian Lal (uid175029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lznivizfvcgxgzcb) |
| 12:13.23 | *** join/#debian ByT3b0N3 (~ByT3b0N3@ipservice-092-211-098-228.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 12:14.27 | *** join/#debian conta1 (~Thunderbi@94.112.251.98.static.b2b.upcbusiness.cz) |
| 12:14.31 | *** join/#debian Geom` (~Geom@122.52.80.92) |
| 12:14.44 | *** join/#debian bolovanos_ (~bolovanos@91.201.22.5) |
| 12:15.01 | *** join/#debian Wire_ (~quassel@heerscharen.net) |
| 12:15.17 | *** join/#debian Chizz8l (~Den@92.242.103.226) |
| 12:15.51 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 12:15.52 | *** join/#debian watmm (~nmurphy@post.dp-media.de) |
| 12:16.05 | watmm | Hey, anyone have an idea why an environment variable $LOGNAME would be available when running a scipt via the command line, but not when running it via an init script? |
| 12:16.46 | FinalX | visual: clearly is, automated response when apt is mentioned; plus in whois info: [apt] (ibot@rikers.org): TimRiker's infobot |
| 12:17.23 | visual | but you just meantioned apt and it didnt respond |
| 12:17.28 | *** join/#debian todd_dsm (~todd_dsm@173-16-140-207.client.mchsi.com) |
| 12:17.34 | visual | you're confused lol |
| 12:17.53 | r4co0n | apt has to be the first word? |
| 12:18.26 | *** join/#debian oaaao (~oaao@2604:2000:820d:e00:89af:3b7:dd10:94d3) |
| 12:18.33 | visual | ^ |
| 12:18.49 | *** join/#debian dmr (~dmr@fsf/member/dmr) |
| 12:18.54 | visual | the guy probably took a break or something |
| 12:18.56 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@78.47.131.12) |
| 12:20.21 | *** join/#debian oaao (~oaao@2604:2000:820d:e00:89af:3b7:dd10:94d3) |
| 12:20.27 | *** join/#debian badiane (~badiane@cpe-24-193-80-159.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 12:20.37 | *** join/#debian macartur (~macartur@gwime.semfio.usp.br) |
| 12:20.55 | *** join/#debian xiaodong (~xiaodong@114.111.167.253) |
| 12:22.56 | *** join/#debian poleprogger (~mj@118.219.eduroam.dynamic.rbg.tum.de) |
| 12:23.26 | r4co0n | visual, send a private msg to apt, it is a bot... |
| 12:23.51 | visual | nice try, but i dont wanna get banned |
| 12:24.29 | r4co0n | last century it was okay to pm people if you have a question |
| 12:24.44 | visual | yeah, last century :^) |
| 12:25.38 | r4co0n | Sometimes you get a thank you via pm here, I never hated anyone for this. |
| 12:25.40 | *** join/#debian yaume (~gchenuet@46.231.131.178) |
| 12:27.33 | *** join/#debian Ranzpirat (~ranzp@unaffiliated/ranzpirat) |
| 12:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1720] by debhelper |
| 12:28.57 | *** join/#debian InfoTest (~Thunderbi@tgn.126.68.187.dts.mg) |
| 12:29.35 | Iridos | watmm, because there's nobody logged in at the init script? |
| 12:29.53 | *** join/#debian Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@unaffiliated/nh3xus) |
| 12:30.49 | *** join/#debian xiaodong_ (~xiaodong@114.111.167.253) |
| 12:30.53 | Iridos | yes, apt is a bot, so is dpkg and dselect |
| 12:31.40 | judd | don't forget me! Everyone always forgets me ;( |
| 12:32.15 | *** part/#debian meiyopeng1 (~none@3c.66.32a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com) |
| 12:33.06 | *** join/#debian dethos (~dethos@95.172.190.234) |
| 12:33.52 | jelly | watmm: because it's /bin/login that sets it, only when a user logs in into an interactive shell? |
| 12:34.11 | visual | Iridos: no it isnt lol |
| 12:34.21 | *** join/#debian donoban (~user@5.79.86.129) |
| 12:34.21 | jelly | well. A login shell. |
| 12:34.45 | jelly | judd: hush |
| 12:34.57 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:35.19 | jelly | apt: what are you |
| 12:35.19 | apt | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 12:35.27 | Iridos | visual, it is. and it's time to move on. |
| 12:35.28 | *** join/#debian ovs (~ovs@nag77-2-83-152-154-106.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:36.07 | visual | lol have fun being stupid |
| 12:36.15 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 12:36.15 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@unaffiliated/visual] by jelly |
| 12:36.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 12:36.33 | jelly | visual: you're allowed to continue this overly silly conversation in #debian-offtopic |
| 12:36.58 | *** part/#debian visual (~save_chan@unaffiliated/visual) |
| 12:37.03 | watmm | jelly: think you might be on to something because i've ruled out sourcing profile files and echoing user, shell, paths etc |
| 12:37.23 | *** join/#debian akdi (~akdi@nag77-2-83-152-154-106.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:37.26 | jelly | watmm: man 1 login |
| 12:37.40 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 12:37.57 | jelly | (I cheated and did a zgrep LOGNAME /usr/share/man/man?/*.gz) |
| 12:38.21 | *** join/#debian rabbleproof (crazyed@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 12:39.25 | watmm | So i guess the question is how do i make the spawned shell interactive |
| 12:39.39 | jelly | !goal |
| 12:39.40 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 12:41.40 | watmm | To be able to access $LOGNAME from within a script that's called by an init script. LOGNAME is accessible when calling the inner script from the cli, but not the init script that calls the inner script |
| 12:41.51 | *** join/#debian teclo- (~teclo-@unaffiliated/teclo) |
| 12:42.27 | *** join/#debian Pr0metheus (~nezos@ppp046177074245.access.hol.gr) |
| 12:42.33 | jelly | watmm: why do you need LOGNAME inside an init script? |
| 12:42.39 | Pr0metheus | how can i tell which shell i am using? |
| 12:42.50 | jelly | Pr0metheus: echo $SHELL, sometimes |
| 12:43.09 | Pr0metheus | jelly: thanx it worked : /bin/bash |
| 12:43.45 | *** join/#debian xiaodong (~xiaodong@114.111.167.245) |
| 12:43.58 | *** join/#debian killian99 (~killian99@jol13-4-78-235-25-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:43.59 | jelly | watmm: what does the inner script need LOGNAME for? |
| 12:44.27 | jelly | in short, what doesn't work? |
| 12:44.35 | watmm | jelly: That's how the people at Varnish have decided to prefix saving their configuration: $LOGNAME_<randomly generated uuid>. Bad design choice it seems as the reload only works if the uuid does not start with a number. I could just change the prefix, but then it might break on an upgrade. If i can fix it outside of Varnish, that's preferable |
| 12:44.57 | *** join/#debian MrNeon (~misterneo@179.ip-92-222-66.eu) |
| 12:45.15 | jelly | watmm: so export LOGNAME=whatever in your custom init script. |
| 12:45.22 | *** join/#debian cccc828 (~severin@lap-i22-022.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) |
| 12:46.02 | jelly | I don't that kind of broken setup would be accepted in debian's packaging |
| 12:46.33 | jelly | watmm: if you're using debian's packaging for varnish, check for open bug reports and file one if it's not there yet |
| 12:47.03 | *** join/#debian cruncher (~cruncher@unaffiliated/cruncher) |
| 12:47.27 | jelly | a service shouldn't assume it's running under a login shell, that just doesn't make sense |
| 12:47.29 | *** join/#debian Qonk (~tony@2602:306:8bb9:2830:219:b9ff:fe3e:5dba) |
| 12:48.02 | jelly | ,v varnish |
| 12:48.04 | judd | Package: varnish on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.0.2-2+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 3.0.2-2+deb7u2; jessie: 4.0.2-1; stretch: 5.0.0-3; sid: 5.0.0-3 |
| 12:48.08 | *** join/#debian TsukiRa (~fpob@79-170-251-152.cust.avonet.cz) |
| 12:49.16 | watmm | Odd, exporting doesn't make it visible to the inner script |
| 12:49.25 | watmm | and yeah, it's a stand alone .deb |
| 12:49.31 | *** join/#debian Anwarias (~quassel@xdsl-89-0-24-214.netcologne.de) |
| 12:49.49 | watmm | As in, non-debian maintained |
| 12:50.16 | jelly | watmm: pastebin the init script |
| 12:50.36 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~ghost@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 12:51.33 | watmm | https://gist.github.com/watmm/aef1eb6aea588041cef970ad51f525bb |
| 12:52.02 | watmm | Already created a big report but it doesn't look like that's going to be addressed any time soon |
| 12:54.13 | jelly | dunno if start-stop-daemon sanitizes the environment, it seems likely |
| 12:54.33 | *** join/#debian h1t3sh (~h1t3sh@43.229.25.179) |
| 12:58.39 | watmm | The part i'mn interested in is reload, where that's not used |
| 12:58.58 | *** join/#debian Guest_ (~textual@2401:a400:c34f:9013:20da:a498:da83:78d8) |
| 12:59.00 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 13:00.10 | jelly | dunno, it ought to survive to line 97 AFAICT |
| 13:00.57 | *** join/#debian subhead (~subhead@109.235.42.45) |
| 13:01.25 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@213.61.163.5) |
| 13:01.26 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 13:01.47 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 13:04.08 | *** join/#debian kunoo (~kunoo@227.red-88-12-9.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:04.22 | *** part/#debian kunoo (~kunoo@227.red-88-12-9.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:04.48 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@flossk/altin) |
| 13:04.52 | *** join/#debian CapsAdmin (~CapsAdmin@ti0115a400-0329.bb.online.no) |
| 13:05.13 | *** join/#debian wokedame (~sfgsfdsad@cpc81485-lanc8-2-0-cust90.3-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 13:05.22 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:06.34 | *** join/#debian valerio (~valerio`@unaffiliated/valerio/x-9242161) |
| 13:07.35 | *** join/#debian btf (~btf@185.83.14.89) |
| 13:08.42 | *** join/#debian xiaodong_ (~xiaodong@120.52.92.213) |
| 13:08.45 | *** join/#debian jpgepetto (~jean-phil@2602:306:c43a:1770:c17f:8930:24bd:7247) |
| 13:09.58 | *** join/#debian knamehost (~knamehost@112.203.226.110) |
| 13:10.13 | *** join/#debian knamehost (~knamehost@unaffiliated/knamehost) |
| 13:10.38 | *** join/#debian trCody (~trCody@x2f7fe06.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 13:10.43 | *** join/#debian Cueball (lee@11.21.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 13:11.01 | *** join/#debian jirka (~Icedove@x.proofreason.com) |
| 13:11.09 | *** join/#debian spvkgn (~spvkgn@176.96.82.211) |
| 13:11.22 | r4co0n | watmm, you could try what is suggested here, let start-stop-daemon call /usr/bin/env and explicitly set the environment variable . I don't know if this will break something else. |
| 13:11.29 | r4co0n | watmm, link: http://serverfault.com/a/285739 |
| 13:11.37 | *** join/#debian kevy0 (~kev@unaffiliated/kevy0) |
| 13:11.54 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@158.69.114.146) |
| 13:12.15 | *** join/#debian da3m0n22 (~da3m0n22@2a00:1ca8:e:4::4abc:216b) |
| 13:13.07 | da3m0n22 | hey, anyone can explain why "linux-kbuild-4.7" in versions "4.7.8-1~bpo8+1" and "4.7.8-1" is missing Makefile.gcc-plugins and whole plugins infrastructure? Thanks |
| 13:13.27 | watmm | Interesting. Question, how can you tell which files will be prompted for overwriting on an upgrade, and which wont? Is it just /etc/* that is prompted? |
| 13:13.37 | da3m0n22 | (also i haven't checked previous versions, as those are not available in my repositories) |
| 13:14.32 | da3m0n22 | watmm: files that had been previously installed and that has been changed ? |
| 13:15.05 | watmm | yep |
| 13:18.32 | *** join/#debian xiaodong (~xiaodong@120.52.92.221) |
| 13:20.33 | Iridos | dpkg, tell da3m0n22 about conffile |
| 13:21.53 | da3m0n22 | Iridos: regding kbuild or apt-upgrade ? |
| 13:23.30 | Iridos | what? |
| 13:23.46 | *** join/#debian han-solo (~han-solo@115.244.215.82) |
| 13:23.57 | *** join/#debian resurtm (~resurtm@188.166.16.241) |
| 13:24.00 | da3m0n22 | Iridos: what? |
| 13:24.05 | Iridos | huh⦠who asked that about config files |
| 13:24.57 | r4co0n | dpkg, tell watmm about conffile |
| 13:25.00 | Iridos | d3fc0n, ops, sorry⦠mis-aligned nick and line |
| 13:25.03 | Iridos | yeah, that :) |
| 13:25.04 | r4co0n | Iridos, there you go |
| 13:25.25 | r4co0n | btw, you did it again ;) |
| 13:25.36 | Iridos | not! |
| 13:26.22 | *** join/#debian TvL2386 (~tom@185.24.48.180) |
| 13:27.29 | *** join/#debian tugrik (~username@war.funkyjesus.org) |
| 13:28.11 | *** join/#debian noroot_ (~noroot@188-22-97-104.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 13:28.20 | *** join/#debian chrstphrchvz (sid104796@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iiornyvhksmrxpvt) |
| 13:28.47 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 13:29.49 | Iridos | da3m0n22, I'm not even sure what you're asking there. That might be true for others, you might want to rephrase. |
| 13:30.07 | TvL2386 | hi guys, I'm experimenting with Access Control Lists (getfacl/setfacl), and I'm wondering why my user 'tom' cannot remove a file owned by 'www-data'. I have a snippet here https://gist.github.com/TvL2386/0299a2dfe1cca0f60e61d101a53e1e28 |
| 13:30.22 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bjxkmhsjrtmoukhe) |
| 13:30.35 | *** join/#debian creat (~creat@unaffiliated/creat) |
| 13:30.44 | TvL2386 | I think user 'tom' needs write permission to the current directory in order to unlink the file |
| 13:30.47 | Iridos | it's the permissions of the directory the file is in that determines what you can remove |
| 13:31.15 | TvL2386 | ok, I'm also wondering why the mask is different than the default:mask |
| 13:31.21 | *** join/#debian ]3n19m4[_ (~]3n19m4@188.86.255.114) |
| 13:32.14 | *** join/#debian karimb (~karimb@89.107.183.7) |
| 13:32.16 | TvL2386 | because /var/www has a default acl applied, and the idea was that user 'tom' can "manage" all files from 'www-data' as well |
| 13:32.57 | *** join/#debian creat (~creat@unaffiliated/creat) |
| 13:33.25 | *** join/#debian Silvering (~textual@4-134-190-109.isp.overthebox.ovh) |
| 13:33.42 | *** join/#debian d3fc0n (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 13:33.47 | *** join/#debian luxpir (~luxpir@dsl78-143-211-209.in-addr.fast.co.uk) |
| 13:33.49 | *** join/#debian oish_ (~charlie@cpc69399-oxfd27-2-0-cust5.4-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 13:33.54 | *** join/#debian EduDamG (~egalvan@157.92.96.250) |
| 13:34.01 | luxpir | anyone managed to install termite? I'm stuck in dependency hell... |
| 13:34.14 | luxpir | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/51gtx7/fatal_error_installing_termite/ I tacked on my issue to this other guy's here |
| 13:34.32 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 13:36.07 | *** join/#debian Ajcqb (~Ajcqb@cac94-8-82-245-27-76.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:36.20 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~ghost@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 13:36.28 | *** join/#debian morphis__ (~morphis@pD9ED6584.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:37.06 | *** join/#debian afx_ (~afx_@195.46.27.228) |
| 13:37.44 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james4138@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 13:38.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1729] by debhelper |
| 13:38.02 | *** part/#debian jpgepetto (~jean-phil@2602:306:c43a:1770:c17f:8930:24bd:7247) |
| 13:39.05 | n4dir | imho there are more than enought terminal emulators inside the debian repo, luxpir. |
| 13:40.14 | *** join/#debian Starky (~Starky@unaffiliated/starky) |
| 13:40.16 | luxpir | fair comment, n4dir, but termite had caught my eye. |
| 13:40.53 | ksk | because it looks like 1980? ;) |
| 13:40.59 | luxpir | second choice is urxvt, but decided against due to further config... just want something lightweight and featured enough to replace terminator, which doesn't 'pop open' as I hoped it would in i3. |
| 13:41.06 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@bb219-75-53-138.singnet.com.sg) |
| 13:41.27 | luxpir | ksk: 1980 would be modern for my tastes :) I kid, but speed is what I'm after |
| 13:41.30 | watmm | r4co0n: cheers, so all this time ive been trying to fix an issue in a tracked file, when i should just add a dirty workaround in a file it calls |
| 13:42.07 | *** join/#debian shovel_boss (~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665) |
| 13:42.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 13:42.29 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@unaffiliated/visual eir] by eir |
| 13:42.56 | Iridos | TvL2386, you usually just put the user in the www-data group⦠which only works moderately well, because someone must ensure that all files there have the group and that they're all group-writable |
| 13:43.05 | n4dir | won't get any lighter than xterm i guess. Anyway: check if you may like this one: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/lilyterm luxpir |
| 13:43.48 | n4dir | and what do you mean with "pop open" ? |
| 13:44.19 | *** join/#debian creat (~creat@unaffiliated/creat) |
| 13:44.32 | Iridos | it doesn't burst the bubble? |
| 13:45.06 | luxpir | n4dir: so my hardware isn't great, but the system is light enough that I'm starting to get bugged by the time it takes to open a new terminal. |
| 13:46.06 | TvL2386 | Iridos, yeah exactly, moderately well... I was hoping to find a a solution to catch the corner cases as well, like files with chmod 0600 owned by www-data |
| 13:46.20 | n4dir | using tilda you can have it open all the time and access in the blink of an eye. luxpir |
| 13:47.09 | n4dir | same for lilyterm, i got a Gig RAM and it opens up immediatly. btw |
| 13:47.36 | luxpir | n4dir: using i3wm here, so want to remain within that workflow |
| 13:47.43 | luxpir | will try lilyterm |
| 13:47.55 | TvL2386 | Iridos, this is very interesting about the subject: http://serverfault.com/questions/352783/why-does-chmod1-on-the-group-affect-the-acl-mask |
| 13:48.04 | n4dir | i can't see what i3wm would mean regarding a terminal emulator ... |
| 13:49.10 | luxpir | n4dir: I was referring to tilda drop down... doesn't meet requirements |
| 13:49.42 | luxpir | n4dir: just installed lilyterm and can confirm it's speed. now can it look pretty and get all zsh/powerline and remain quick... |
| 13:50.35 | humbag | usually the first instance of a program will open slowly, but subsequent windows much quicker |
| 13:52.34 | *** join/#debian OS-24598 (~OS-24598@116.75.87.100) |
| 13:52.35 | luxpir | humbag: yep, in general... but even if terminator loads quickly, even on subseq. loads, it's still a 0-1 count until it opens with a shortcut key. That tiny second and a bit of friction is bugging me. |
| 13:52.37 | Iridos | uh⦠tilda is weird⦠that acts as if you mainly wanted to use other windows and only use the shell for the occasional command to start something. eww. |
| 13:53.07 | jelly | TvL2386: what a lovely obscure bit of lore, thanks! |
| 13:53.16 | *** join/#debian betandr (~betandr@132.185.153.7) |
| 13:53.21 | n4dir | or exactly the other way around, Iridos |
| 13:53.25 | TvL2386 | jelly, yes very! yw! ;) |
| 13:53.44 | n4dir | i see it as being able to mainly work on the commandline |
| 13:53.44 | *** join/#debian Ticho_ (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 13:54.05 | *** join/#debian d0nn1e (~d0nn1e@cpe-104-138-218-156.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 13:54.15 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 13:54.25 | dcpc007 | hi, starting to hate debian .. not because of debian itself, but because on commercial company support debian, and more and more, i'm forced to install centos or RHEL or other ... and now my task of admin very complicated. |
| 13:54.27 | *** join/#debian teshuzin (~david@195.24.196.123) |
| 13:54.54 | humbag | terminator does open slowly, because its python, but since its a multiplexor you only need one window :) |
| 13:55.00 | dcpc007 | for me debian the best server distro to manage ... but in enterprise ... impossible to use because no company will support debian |
| 13:55.07 | *** join/#debian _foldLeft (~foldleft@205.153.36.170) |
| 13:55.38 | dcpc007 | a very heavy inconvenient when using commerical applications |
| 13:55.39 | Iridos | n4dir, not really⦠I've got 5 terminals open at the same time, and with reason⦠|
| 13:55.47 | *** join/#debian tekmans (~tekmans@cor13-5-78-216-214-88.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:55.52 | tekmans | hi every one |
| 13:55.52 | tekmans | i have a new laptop with usb type c with power charge |
| 13:55.52 | tekmans | but power charging is not working |
| 13:55.52 | tekmans | someone knows something about usb power management about power charging ? |
| 13:55.53 | *** kick/#debian [tekmans!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 13:55.55 | n4dir | use screen at call it a day. |
| 13:56.13 | *** join/#debian tekmans (~tekmans@cor13-5-78-216-214-88.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:56.51 | Iridos | screen breaks ctrl-a and scrolling |
| 13:56.56 | *** join/#debian lss8 (~lss8@HSI-KBW-134-3-155-149.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 13:56.56 | *** join/#debian lss8 (~lss8@unaffiliated/lss8) |
| 13:57.15 | *** join/#debian donoban (~user@5.79.86.129) |
| 13:57.16 | *** join/#debian ar1el (~undergr0u@unaffiliated/ar1el) |
| 13:57.33 | n4dir | i guess in that case you need to open 5 windows. nothing one could do about it |
| 13:58.05 | *** join/#debian poleprogger (~mj@118.219.eduroam.dynamic.rbg.tum.de) |
| 13:58.09 | Iridos | it's also often handy to see more than one at the same time |
| 13:58.23 | *** join/#debian thebrush (~Icedove@91.187.199.106) |
| 13:58.43 | dcpc007 | Iridos i configure my screen with Ctrl-A in .screenrc |
| 13:58.59 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 13:59.01 | luxpir | so just to confirm, nobody here uses, or has used termite on deb? |
| 13:59.11 | dcpc007 | no, switch to tmux now |
| 14:00.32 | luxpir | dcpc007: been using tmux for years... just not locally. can't see the point when I use i3 for win mgmt |
| 14:00.34 | *** join/#debian Newsense (62e400ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.228.0.236) |
| 14:00.41 | *** part/#debian teshuzin (~david@195.24.196.123) |
| 14:01.09 | *** join/#debian OS-24669 (~OS-24669@213.244.170.155) |
| 14:01.21 | luxpir | humbag: good point - could change my workflow to split terminator windows - is much quicker than starting a new instance. |
| 14:01.22 | *** join/#debian poleprogger (~mj@118.219.eduroam.dynamic.rbg.tum.de) |
| 14:01.30 | *** join/#debian tkla (~tklassen@p5B3EEB8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:01.31 | Newsense | So I'm trying to install Debian from usb but it fails at select and install software |
| 14:01.35 | *** join/#debian nedbat (~nedbat@python/psf/nedbat) |
| 14:01.36 | dcpc007 | ha not using I3 too .. |
| 14:01.42 | Newsense | What do I do now |
| 14:01.53 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@71-13-171-2.static.fdul.wi.charter.com) |
| 14:02.13 | dcpc007 | Newsense: what error ? |
| 14:02.29 | n4dir | luxpir: why not tabs? |
| 14:02.38 | Newsense | I am willing to pay anyone who can help me in Burst coin |
| 14:02.49 | Newsense | 100 |
| 14:03.01 | *** join/#debian OS-23863 (~OS-23863@dslb-178-009-008-082.178.009.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 14:03.16 | babilen | Newsense: How did you write the installer to the USB stick? |
| 14:03.19 | luxpir | dcpc007: altho nesting tabbed vim buffers in tmux panes and tabs in i3wm windowed workspaces gives some evil satisfaction... |
| 14:03.20 | *** join/#debian niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) |
| 14:03.45 | Newsense | Pcksel eror code 100 |
| 14:04.02 | Newsense | Pkgsel sorry |
| 14:04.12 | luxpir | n4dir: tabs too... just prefer seeing tailing logs + code or writing + notes files etc. in same view |
| 14:04.55 | Newsense | Why can't I install Debian |
| 14:06.09 | shovel_boss | Newsense, delete yourself |
| 14:06.23 | shovel_boss | you cant install an operating system |
| 14:06.28 | *** join/#debian deemel (~deemel@81.17.22.206) |
| 14:06.51 | TvL2386 | luxpir, I only use terminator |
| 14:07.04 | *** join/#debian awhitlock8 (~awhitlock@2610:148:610:5a0f:f68e:38ff:fea6:ea55) |
| 14:07.25 | Newsense | Fuck you, aI can but shit don't work |
| 14:07.26 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@92.176.142.156) |
| 14:07.57 | babilen | Newsense: Please keep it civil in here and try to answer all questions that people asked |
| 14:08.24 | *** join/#debian el-aman (~Mutter@199.212.87.145) |
| 14:08.27 | petn-randall | same goes for you, shovel_boss. |
| 14:08.41 | Newsense | Wtf, I did |
| 14:08.47 | Newsense | You hear him |
| 14:09.09 | shovel_boss | Newsense, radical islamic muslim terrorist |
| 14:09.14 | *** mode/#debian [+o babilen] by ChanServ |
| 14:09.15 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665] by babilen |
| 14:09.15 | *** mode/#debian [-o babilen] by babilen |
| 14:09.19 | themill | shovel_boss: that's more than enough |
| 14:09.22 | Newsense | Pcksel error 10 |
| 14:09.30 | babilen | Newsense: How did you write the installer? |
| 14:09.41 | Newsense | Usb |
| 14:09.49 | themill | Newsense: that's "what" not "how" |
| 14:09.55 | petn-randall | Newsense: Which commands did you use exactly? |
| 14:10.22 | Newsense | Followed instructions on debian.org |
| 14:10.27 | babilen | Which instructions? |
| 14:10.49 | Newsense | Usb instructions |
| 14:11.05 | luxpir | TvL2386: Yeah cheers, will investigate it's features more before jumping ship - been using it for ages but never actually used it as a multiplexer |
| 14:11.57 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 14:12.10 | petn-randall | Newsense: Then everything should have worked fine. Which errors do you get? |
| 14:12.35 | *** join/#debian ExoUNX (~ExoUNX@unaffiliated/exounx) |
| 14:12.42 | Newsense | Pkgsel error 10 |
| 14:12.44 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~agiofws@2a02:582:7c99:de00:196c:d996:157c:b919) |
| 14:13.11 | petn-randall | Newsense: You need to provide a lot more details for us be able to help you. |
| 14:13.29 | petn-randall | Newsense: Please provide more details. |
| 14:13.30 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 14:13.31 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:13.57 | TvL2386 | luxpir, I can dream CTRL+o to horizontal split and CTRL+e to vertically split... It's awesome... also CTRL+t for tabs... that's all you need... You can group windows to simultaneous type... I don't need anything else |
| 14:14.05 | *** join/#debian MrFixIt (~samurai@c-67-175-180-110.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 14:14.30 | TvL2386 | luxpir, CTRL+SHIFT in all cases... sorry |
| 14:15.10 | Newsense | I try to install during select and install software I choose KDE and Debian desktop, install fails, cntrl+alt+f4 shows pkgsel failed |
| 14:15.21 | Newsense | Error code 100 |
| 14:16.35 | petn-randall | Newsense: That sounds like the installer might not be prepared properly. Can you provide the commands you used to create the USB installer? |
| 14:16.35 | Newsense | I know you afe volunteers, used to be a member, been gone for a while |
| 14:16.54 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 14:17.06 | petn-randall | Newsense: Member of what? |
| 14:17.09 | Newsense | I am going to get a dvd I think |
| 14:17.36 | Newsense | First time using USB and don't like it |
| 14:17.59 | Newsense | Used to volunteer here |
| 14:18.32 | *** join/#debian _sfiguser (~sfigguser@93-35-242-188.ip57.fastwebnet.it) |
| 14:18.49 | themill | Newsense: Precisely which installer image are you using? |
| 14:19.11 | babilen | And which command exactly did you use to write it to the USB? |
| 14:19.16 | babilen | *exactly* |
| 14:20.32 | luxpir | TvL2386: yep, just been into the keybindings to double check. played with it initially, years back, but had forgotten. quite like i3 opening diff term instances on boot - might keep that for now. |
| 14:20.54 | *** part/#debian da3m0n22 (~da3m0n22@2a00:1ca8:e:4::4abc:216b) |
| 14:20.57 | luxpir | (one for cmus, one for mutt, one for certain text files... and so on) |
| 14:21.13 | Newsense | I followed instructions on Debian.org |
| 14:21.48 | *** join/#debian mik (mik@unaffiliated/mik) |
| 14:22.05 | Newsense | If I had a computer I could look into it easier |
| 14:22.29 | *** join/#debian jawor123 (~ENERGIA\m@194.181.140.21) |
| 14:22.37 | luxpir | new question: after apt removing the packages I installed this morning (https://github.com/Corwind/termite-install/blob/master/termite-install.sh) I now have an autoremove list as long as my arm. |
| 14:22.49 | petn-randall | Newsense: Ok, a computer is essential for installing Debian. That might be your problem. |
| 14:22.52 | luxpir | it's clearly not being smart about what depended on what. |
| 14:23.11 | *** part/#debian jawor123 (~ENERGIA\m@194.181.140.21) |
| 14:23.18 | Newsense | I got a computer, sitting here with no OS |
| 14:23.28 | luxpir | petn-randall: Come on, the guy clearly means he doesn't have a computer with an OS installed. Although he is talking to us in IRC... presume that's from a computer. |
| 14:24.12 | themill | Newsense: you can tell us what release you're trying to install and which image you downloaded. |
| 14:24.21 | *** join/#debian awhitlock8 (~awhitlock@2610:148:610:5a0f:f68e:38ff:fea6:ea55) |
| 14:24.23 | awhitlock8 | #rhel |
| 14:24.26 | Newsense | Why are Debian users all dicks wtf lol |
| 14:24.27 | themill | You can probably even remember what you had for breakfast. |
| 14:24.34 | todd_dsm | on a minimal auto-build O |
| 14:24.37 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.228.0.236] by ChanServ |
| 14:24.55 | themill | Newsense: feel free to let me know when you actually want help. |
| 14:26.01 | *** join/#debian CurryWurst (~CurryWurs@2001:1b48:203::1:1000) |
| 14:26.48 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@ZN023049.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 14:27.34 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 14:27.34 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@ZN023049.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 14:27.48 | petn-randall | luxpir: Not really, we've been asking them several questions now and all of those haven't been directly answered. |
| 14:28.40 | luxpir | petn-randall: I know. Not an ideal candidate for help. |
| 14:29.03 | *** join/#debian kiao2938 (~mj@118.219.eduroam.dynamic.rbg.tum.de) |
| 14:29.25 | luxpir | so anyone know if there's a way to get a real autoremove list that won't bork my system if I agree to it? |
| 14:30.04 | FinalX | double-check the list of packages to be removed before you type Yes |
| 14:30.15 | *** join/#debian Maysara18 (~androirc@154.103.65.116) |
| 14:30.20 | FinalX | and manually install the packages that you believe are needed |
| 14:30.54 | FinalX | autoremove selects packages that were not manually selected (system base install / apt-get install <package>) or that are dependencies of packages that are manually installed) |
| 14:30.58 | luxpir | FinalX: that's not going to cut it. |
| 14:31.02 | FinalX | of course it is |
| 14:31.14 | FinalX | apt/dpkg can't know anything beyond that |
| 14:31.20 | *** join/#debian Maysara19 (~androirc@154.103.65.116) |
| 14:31.37 | FinalX | if your custom application depends on $x and $x is not set to manually installed or depended upon, it'll be selected with autoremove |
| 14:31.46 | luxpir | FinalX: I've gone to remove the list I posted at 14:22 above, and because it's related to gtk stuff it's pulled in probably close to 100 packages. |
| 14:32.00 | *** join/#debian Maysara18 (~androirc@154.103.65.116) |
| 14:32.06 | FinalX | so the fix is to make sure that if you build a custom piece of software that relies on it, and package it, make sure dependencies are given correctly |
| 14:32.15 | FinalX | well, same goes for packages beyond your control. |
| 14:32.33 | FinalX | if they fucked up their dependencies, there's no way for apt to know which can or can not be safely removed. |
| 14:32.35 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@5-255-217-91.xlab.si) |
| 14:32.50 | luxpir | and will aptitude be any smarter if I use that? |
| 14:32.54 | *** join/#debian Domhack (~Domhack@89-71-188-82.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 14:33.01 | luxpir | (saw an old forum post pointing someone to it) |
| 14:34.14 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 14:35.04 | *** join/#debian makimaki (~makimaki`@jedenzero7-dziewiectrzy.echostar.pl) |
| 14:35.43 | siddfinch` | q |
| 14:36.03 | petn-randall | luxpir: all packages that are installed are either marked automatically or manually installed. Looks like you removed a manually installed package, and now all these automatically installed packages have nothing that depend on them. |
| 14:36.07 | *** join/#debian ki0_ (~ki0@46.red-213-4-16.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:36.21 | *** join/#debian Filiphe (~Filiphe@151.50.186.40) |
| 14:36.36 | *** join/#debian CHRiSNEW (~chrisnew@mensa.net.smartinternet.eu) |
| 14:36.46 | petn-randall | luxpir: The solution is to mark those you need with 'apt-get install <packagename>', and they'll be marked as manually installed. Then 'apt autoremove' will only show packages that are truly not needed by you anymore. |
| 14:36.57 | Iridos | luxpir, if all those packages that are marked for autoremove are really only used by debian packages and not by anything you installed outside the package system, removing them is fine |
| 14:37.10 | jelly | also "apt-mark manual" |
| 14:37.31 | *** join/#debian kiao2938 (~mj@118.219.eduroam.dynamic.rbg.tum.de) |
| 14:37.41 | jelly | and "apt-get unmarkauto" |
| 14:38.14 | jelly | (because install may also upgrade something) |
| 14:38.15 | Iridos | luxpir, if stuff you compiled yourself depends on random libraries, you should in some way insure the system knows they're needed (by unmarking them for autoremove or by dummy packages or whatever)⦠or else you'll have to wait if mind-reading applications are made |
| 14:38.35 | jelly | Iridos: or package it up! |
| 14:38.56 | jelly | dh-shlibdeps does a wonderful job, usually |
| 14:39.08 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 14:39.51 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@46.red-213-4-16.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:42.24 | luxpir | Iridos petn-randall Thanks - They were deb packages anyway, so looking at them I may get away with it... |
| 14:42.31 | *** join/#debian Fr_Dae (~Dae@did75-h11-89-86-12-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 14:43.18 | todd_dsm | hey all, seeing some weird shell behavior after a minimal auto-install; the shell doesn't seem to know what 'declare' is and can't use 'source' but . /path/file seems to work. env | grep -i shell ==> SHELL=/bin/bash so I'm a bit confused. Is this a minimal shell that looks like bash? |
| 14:43.41 | luxpir | Iridos: petn-randall: just concerned because this is exactly how I borked my n900 |
| 14:44.09 | *** join/#debian Starky (~Starky@unaffiliated/starky) |
| 14:44.45 | petn-randall | todd_dsm: Are you sure it doesn't say /bin/dash? |
| 14:44.57 | *** join/#debian hhmmm (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 14:45.38 | *** join/#debian LeandroLuiz (~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz) |
| 14:46.09 | todd_dsm | petn-randall: that's a copy/paste from my output. but I did add the ==> |
| 14:46.42 | *** join/#debian bmr (bmr@nat/redhat/x-frkbkbwjnsszanbw) |
| 14:47.13 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@ZN023145.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 14:47.43 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@ZN023145.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 14:48.03 | *** join/#debian Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-187-114.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 14:48.14 | todd_dsm | I can also do: ls -l "$(echo $SHELL)" to make sure it's not a link to dash. |
| 14:48.35 | *** join/#debian turoduro (7a977e8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.151.126.140) |
| 14:50.14 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 14:51.23 | *** part/#debian n4dir (~user@pD9EF0EA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:52.24 | *** join/#debian ben_roose (~roose@roose.cs.wichita.edu) |
| 14:55.39 | *** join/#debian g105b (uid148156@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imlctjubdcvigpsm) |
| 14:55.45 | jelly | todd_dsm: ls -l $SHELL |
| 14:55.55 | *** join/#debian dflurker (~dimon@metaportal.ru) |
| 14:56.18 | *** join/#debian Hink (~Hink@hink.me) |
| 14:56.50 | jelly | todd_dsm: $SHELL has nothing to do with what /bin/sh points to, and normal users get /bin/bash as login shell by default |
| 14:57.18 | todd_dsm | I added a variant of that to the script already; ls -l "$(echo $SHELL)" |
| 14:57.51 | todd_dsm | crap, I see what you mean. |
| 14:58.00 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 14:58.36 | *** join/#debian Jarrard (7a977e8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.151.126.140) |
| 14:58.48 | Jarrard | HEY |
| 14:58.50 | todd_dsm | I thought the shebang "#!/usr/bin/env bash" would solve for that problem. |
| 14:59.01 | Jarrard | is there an easy way to make like, a skeleton folder |
| 14:59.03 | todd_dsm | I see the error though. |
| 14:59.13 | Jarrard | so then I can do something like mkdir skeleton_name ./target/ |
| 14:59.18 | Jarrard | or somesuch |
| 15:01.31 | *** join/#debian SpacyTime (JeDa@codebottle.io/user/jeda) |
| 15:01.39 | *** join/#debian trCody (~trCody@2a02:908:b41:280:5d6a:41af:bae3:154a) |
| 15:01.43 | todd_dsm | jelly: the output confirms /bin/sh -> dash; can dash be omitted in the pressed file to ensure bash is the default interpreter? ex: d-i pkgsel/exclude string vim-tiny nano xserver-common dash ? |
| 15:02.06 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 15:02.40 | todd_dsm | Or rather, since I'm a CentOS guy moving to Debian, what's the proper method to make bash the default shell? |
| 15:03.55 | jelly | I don't know what's the canonical answer there |
| 15:03.56 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host162-107-static.223-195-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:03.57 | petemc | chsh |
| 15:03.59 | *** join/#debian johnkeates (~johnkeate@ip5657528d.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 15:03.59 | *** join/#debian binaryc (~binaryc@unaffiliated/binaryc) |
| 15:04.14 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 15:04.19 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 15:04.24 | jelly | todd_dsm: bash _is_ the default login shell for users. It's just not the default /bin/sh |
| 15:04.24 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@cpe-76-172-86-115.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 15:04.44 | petemc | reads back |
| 15:04.46 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@a91-154-153-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 15:06.04 | *** join/#debian mavhq (~quassel@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 15:06.12 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@115.red-2-139-166.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:06.29 | *** join/#debian steinex (~steinex@markus.netzquadrat.de) |
| 15:06.35 | todd_dsm | grep User /etc/passwd - returns - User:1000:1000:Vagrant Default User,,,:/home/User:/bin/bash |
| 15:07.16 | steinex | Hi, i'm trying to use fuse/sshfs in jessie. However, there is no fuse group anymore to add my user to, /usr/share/doc/sshfs/README.Debian says i need fuse-utils which is not available anymore on jessie. Any hints? |
| 15:07.25 | todd_dsm | Then specifying at the top of a script, this shebang "!/usr/bin/env bash" |
| 15:07.43 | todd_dsm | why would scripts be executing against /bin/sh ? |
| 15:07.45 | ksk | todd_dsm: dash is "Essential: yes" in Debian, so Id think you would have a hard time removing it. its debians system shell (for init (superseeded by systemd) and other scripts) - as its faster compared to bash |
| 15:07.59 | jelly | steinex: the packages is now just "fuse" |
| 15:08.18 | steinex | jelly: i have installed that one, however, this does not create the fuse group |
| 15:08.33 | ksk | todd_dsm: they should not. |
| 15:08.50 | RoyK | todd_dsm: just use #!/bin/bash |
| 15:08.59 | todd_dsm | ask, that's why I'm confused |
| 15:09.14 | todd_dsm | ksk, that's why I'm confused |
| 15:09.38 | *** join/#debian dflurker (~dimon@metaportal.ru) |
| 15:10.17 | *** part/#debian luxpir (~luxpir@dsl78-143-211-209.in-addr.fast.co.uk) |
| 15:10.33 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~ocbtec@x55b57611.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 15:10.46 | ksk | todd_dsm: could you nopaste your setup? (btw, running a bash/sh/dash script does not set $SHELL - if that would be how you are testing ;) |
| 15:11.15 | todd_dsm | RoyK: I could do that sure. it's just against my understanding of "correct". ex: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Practices#Choose_Your_Shell |
| 15:11.56 | *** join/#debian _ADNWO_ (~Test@212.161.49.106) |
| 15:11.59 | ksk | todd_dsm: oh, that was only partial right; bash does set it, dash and sh do not. |
| 15:12.28 | RoyK | todd_dsm: I don't really care what's "correct" or not, as long as it works, and #!/bin/bash certainly works |
| 15:13.04 | todd_dsm | ksk: I just ask a series of questions in my first script: env | grep -i shell && echo "$SHELL" |
| 15:13.04 | todd_dsm | ls -l "$(echo $SHELL)" |
| 15:13.04 | todd_dsm | echo "$(type -P bash)" |
| 15:13.04 | todd_dsm | ls -l "$(type -P bash)" |
| 15:13.06 | todd_dsm | echo "$(type -P sh)" |
| 15:13.06 | todd_dsm | ls -l "$(type -P sh)" |
| 15:13.11 | ksk | !tell todd_dsm about paste |
| 15:13.27 | todd_dsm | ok, I'll paste :-) |
| 15:15.19 | *** join/#debian ichimonji (~matsu@mail10.ttr.ca) |
| 15:15.33 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@245.144.137.133.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 15:16.30 | *** join/#debian ichabod_ (~ichabod@193.136.157.66) |
| 15:16.42 | *** join/#debian maotm (~mao@81.24.87.130) |
| 15:18.55 | *** join/#debian akash_ (uid150251@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jnkbfdcrjxuwwhoa) |
| 15:19.33 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 15:21.39 | *** join/#debian wabuh (~wabuh@host-149-154-221-225.dynamic.voo.be) |
| 15:21.59 | *** join/#debian SlaGTaTs (~bilbo@cpc103414-donc13-2-0-cust213.17-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 15:23.15 | *** join/#debian r4z (~r4z@unaffiliated/r4z) |
| 15:23.23 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 15:24.28 | *** join/#debian kiao2938 (~mj@host237-2.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 15:28.21 | *** join/#debian Silvering (~textual@4-134-190-109.isp.overthebox.ovh) |
| 15:28.21 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 15:29.25 | *** join/#debian ktchk (~eddie6929@n219079250092.netvigator.com) |
| 15:31.12 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 15:32.06 | *** join/#debian pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) |
| 15:34.28 | *** join/#debian |ifei5g00d (~sharris12@192.253.246.78) |
| 15:34.54 | *** join/#debian njumdl2014 (~njumdl201@client-104-39-66-98.mobility.psu.edu) |
| 15:35.21 | *** join/#debian toha1 (~toha@5354BD05.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 15:36.32 | *** join/#debian vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@66-168-214-41.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) |
| 15:37.09 | *** join/#debian Starky (~Starky@unaffiliated/starky) |
| 15:37.31 | *** join/#debian posi (sid124649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arhgpzjicigjrfjz) |
| 15:37.54 | posi | So I am working on a ppa for brave, and am hoping to upstream the work. We are not creating src debs currently |
| 15:39.47 | *** join/#debian resurtm (~resurtm@2.132.97.201) |
| 15:40.37 | posi | it's a bit of a weird package as we ship a fork of electron. Any way this gets upstreamed? |
| 15:41.22 | *** join/#debian fsmithred (~fsmithred@68-184-46-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 15:41.29 | *** part/#debian fsmithred (~fsmithred@68-184-46-18.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 15:42.27 | *** join/#debian yottabyte (48008896@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.0.136.150) |
| 15:42.39 | *** join/#debian Stiffler (~van@116.193.138.87) |
| 15:42.45 | yottabyte | when installing debian from the usb tool, does it come with a desktop environment and drivers for sound and stuff? |
| 15:42.53 | *** join/#debian clippng (~CHRONIC@2601:42:0:8bc4:18b4:d886:7e92:4e1b) |
| 15:42.53 | *** join/#debian clippng (~CHRONIC@unaffiliated/clippng) |
| 15:42.54 | johnkeates | yes |
| 15:43.01 | yottabyte | is it gnome by default? |
| 15:43.14 | johnkeates | yes |
| 15:43.15 | *** join/#debian jpgepetto (~jean-phil@2602:306:c43a:1770:9014:1eb9:603f:8b8c) |
| 15:43.21 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@201.37.161.74) |
| 15:43.21 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 15:43.22 | ksk | yottabyte: that depends on what debian install media you use, but you should be able to load it from the net using the default installer and choosing desktop |
| 15:43.47 | yottabyte | cool |
| 15:43.52 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~ghost@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 15:44.01 | yottabyte | so debian is what ubuntu is built off of, right? less bloat/bells & whistles? |
| 15:44.11 | johnkeates | yes |
| 15:44.19 | Stiffler | synapse is out after upgrade any solutions? |
| 15:44.43 | *** part/#debian jpgepetto (~jean-phil@2602:306:c43a:1770:9014:1eb9:603f:8b8c) |
| 15:44.55 | jhutchins | yottabyte: Ubuntu was forked off of Debian many years ago, it is a different distribution with a lot of common code. |
| 15:45.02 | *** join/#debian Druid (~Druid@unaffiliated/druid) |
| 15:45.06 | johnkeates | Stiffler: apt-get |
| 15:45.42 | *** join/#debian Veritas (~thisuserh@81.191.249.150) |
| 15:45.47 | *** join/#debian Druid (~Druid@unaffiliated/druid) |
| 15:46.15 | Stiffler | i have installed it but its not working after dist-upgrade using testing |
| 15:46.26 | *** part/#debian steinex (~steinex@markus.netzquadrat.de) |
| 15:46.32 | Stiffler | using stretch |
| 15:46.42 | *** join/#debian jpgepetto (~jean-phil@2602:306:c43a:1770:9014:1eb9:603f:8b8c) |
| 15:47.26 | jhutchins | Stiffler: You may be able to find more help in debian-next on oftc. If it's installed but not working it should be reported as a bug. |
| 15:47.43 | Stiffler | ok ty |
| 15:47.56 | johnkeates | Stiffler: apt-get |
| 15:49.24 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:49.29 | Stiffler | got it working weird |
| 15:49.43 | jhutchins | Stiffler: WHat did you do? |
| 15:50.41 | *** join/#debian danke (~danke@host86-137-58-167.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:51.45 | *** join/#debian Ishaq (~Ishaq@budgetnode/management) |
| 15:52.07 | *** join/#debian murphy42 (~murphy@8.19.46.3) |
| 15:52.54 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@124.237.broadband11.iol.cz) |
| 15:54.32 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 15:55.53 | *** join/#debian keltim (~keltim@173.212.48.130) |
| 15:56.02 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogur2@190.210.94.116) |
| 15:56.16 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 15:56.22 | *** join/#debian seoner (~usr@unaffiliated/sand3r) |
| 15:57.38 | *** join/#debian tlaxkit (~Thunderbi@92.177.99.40) |
| 15:58.27 | *** join/#debian XeonSquared (~ShadowKat@210-1-213-55-cpe.spintel.net.au) |
| 15:58.31 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@213.61.163.5) |
| 15:58.31 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 15:58.50 | *** join/#debian GJ_ (~Thunderbi@88.159.116.196) |
| 15:59.02 | *** join/#debian bony (~quassel@swecha/bony) |
| 15:59.39 | *** join/#debian azarus (~azarus@2a02:120b:2c1d:210:11bd:63b4:87f2:50c6) |
| 16:00.31 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@91.160.41.30) |
| 16:00.56 | *** join/#debian crazyoldworld (~crazyoldw@2602:306:bd2a:a160:7d8c:38fa:1764:86f1) |
| 16:01.06 | *** join/#debian captain_fixerpc1 (~captainfi@32.218.28.2) |
| 16:01.24 | *** join/#debian crazyoldworld (~crazyoldw@2602:306:bd2a:a160:7d8c:38fa:1764:86f1) |
| 16:02.13 | Stiffler | can anyone tell me about a good software that mint uses as usb writer for writting images iso to usb |
| 16:02.16 | *** join/#debian alexlist (~alexlist@bjoerk.list.priv.at) |
| 16:02.22 | Stiffler | and formatting usb drives gui |
| 16:02.24 | *** join/#debian amcorreia (~amcorreia@2804:7f5:280:e1a::1) |
| 16:04.33 | *** join/#debian danke (~danke@host86-137-58-167.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:04.35 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 16:04.39 | ksk | Stiffler: do you just want to put debian.iso onto a usbkey? |
| 16:04.48 | ksk | !tell Stiffler about usb install |
| 16:04.53 | ksk | bot dead :/ |
| 16:05.07 | ksk | Stiffler: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 16:05.29 | *** join/#debian Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@i5E86DF7B.versanet.de) |
| 16:06.06 | *** join/#debian grim4593 (~grim4593@plasma.grimserve.com) |
| 16:06.32 | Stiffler | i want to burn ISO into USB |
| 16:06.34 | Stiffler | any iso |
| 16:06.41 | Stiffler | to make it bootable |
| 16:07.07 | *** join/#debian Pedr0 (~Pedr0@mail.univershell.net) |
| 16:07.09 | Stiffler | i want the software to burn it into usb drive as bootable |
| 16:09.39 | Stiffler | another quesion : how to uninstall firefox-esr from debian |
| 16:09.45 | *** join/#debian Willis (Willis@107.161.160.241) |
| 16:09.47 | jelly | Stiffler: if it's a debian installer image, you just "cp blah.iso /dev/sdf" |
| 16:09.58 | jelly | Stiffler: where sdf is the device for your usb stick |
| 16:10.25 | Stiffler | any ISO not debian only linux-mint has a usb burn that burns iso into usb gui |
| 16:10.32 | Stiffler | i wanted to know that software name |
| 16:10.51 | jelly | ksk: dselect is a second bot, you can use it when dpkg is dead |
| 16:11.04 | jelly | Stiffler: GNU cp from GNU coreutils :-) |
| 16:11.44 | Stiffler | i dont want to install all utilies .. but only that |
| 16:11.50 | Stiffler | is it possiable |
| 16:11.55 | jelly | you have cp by default on all linux installs. |
| 16:12.06 | Stiffler | ? |
| 16:12.16 | jelly | it's the standard command for copying stuff. |
| 16:12.20 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:12.46 | Stiffler | i want to burn iso .. not copy iy |
| 16:12.54 | Stiffler | it* into bootable usb |
| 16:13.15 | *** join/#debian johanskizo (2454e3eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.84.227.235) |
| 16:13.22 | *** join/#debian Artej (~kvirc@ninos.nanophys.kth.se) |
| 16:13.44 | Artej | Hej, can I run a headless xorg session from a script? |
| 16:13.45 | jelly | Stiffler: correct. You "copy" it onto the whole device. That's how it works. |
| 16:13.57 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@103.213.15.206) |
| 16:14.00 | johanskizo | hey |
| 16:14.23 | *** join/#debian kiao2938 (~mj@46.128.154.166.dynamic.cablesurf.de) |
| 16:14.24 | Stiffler | .... |
| 16:14.36 | Stiffler | u know .iso to usb burn software in windows? |
| 16:14.41 | Stiffler | jelly? |
| 16:14.41 | han-solo | heh |
| 16:14.51 | han-solo | just use cp, or dd |
| 16:14.57 | jelly | dselect: win32diskimage |
| 16:14.57 | dselect | jelly: wish i knew |
| 16:14.58 | Artej | I need to run a nasty piece of software trying to launch a graphical dialogue before doing its stuff, I need to make a script for server to make a dummy xorg session before launching it |
| 16:14.59 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 16:15.00 | jelly | dselect: win32diskimager |
| 16:15.12 | Stiffler | linux-mint had that in gui |
| 16:15.12 | jelly | dselect: win32diskimager |
| 16:15.13 | dselect | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 16:15.15 | Stiffler | i want that |
| 16:15.16 | jelly | Stiffler: ^^ |
| 16:15.21 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 16:15.22 | *** join/#debian Piraty (~quassel@ip156.172.mip.uni-hannover.de) |
| 16:15.24 | jelly | for windows. |
| 16:15.31 | Stiffler | listen carefully pls |
| 16:15.43 | jelly | if you're on Mint, just use cp |
| 16:15.56 | jelly | no need for a gui |
| 16:15.56 | *** join/#debian valeriusL (~valerius@85.26.180.250) |
| 16:16.00 | Stiffler | their is a gui in linux mint which helps .iso into usb any iso files i wanted that |
| 16:16.02 | Piraty | is there a way to grant a normal user the right to upgrade the system without giving him sudo right? like a "apt-upgrade" group or sth? |
| 16:16.03 | Stiffler | yes i need gui |
| 16:16.26 | Stiffler | eveytime when i am working i dont like to use command line |
| 16:17.02 | jelly | Stiffler: there are tools like "unetbootin" but those do not work correctly with Debian images. |
| 16:17.14 | johanskizo | how to run steam with bumblebee |
| 16:17.58 | Stiffler | unetbootbin is bad |
| 16:18.02 | Stiffler | i worked with it |
| 16:18.16 | jelly | Stiffler: cp works, that trumps your liking it or not. Are you doing this with a debian installer image or what? |
| 16:18.21 | Stiffler | their is another software which linux mint has but i dont know the package name |
| 16:18.36 | jelly | Stiffler: ah. Ask the mint people, then |
| 16:18.38 | jelly | !mint |
| 16:18.39 | Stiffler | any iso files not debian |
| 16:18.46 | jelly | dselect: mint |
| 16:18.46 | jhutchins | Stiffler: How on earth do you need a GUI to do a simple copy with cp? |
| 16:18.46 | dselect | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 16:18.54 | Stiffler | i know |
| 16:19.08 | jelly | we don't know what kinds of tools Mint has |
| 16:19.09 | johanskizo | use rufus |
| 16:19.19 | Stiffler | i only brought that simple cause debian is grand dad whch works in them will work in debian |
| 16:19.22 | Stiffler | man |
| 16:19.25 | jelly | dselect: rufus |
| 16:19.25 | dselect | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 16:19.29 | Piraty | hello everyone. is there a way to grant a normal user the right to upgrade the system without giving him sudo right? like a "apt-upgrade" group or sth? |
| 16:19.30 | Stiffler | u know rufus in only windows? |
| 16:19.31 | *** join/#debian nmschulte (~nmschulte@unaffiliated/reklipz) |
| 16:19.33 | *** join/#debian blueness_ (~blueness@gentoo/developer/blueness) |
| 16:19.38 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 16:19.44 | jelly | johanskizo: doesn't seem to apply if it's windows only? |
| 16:19.44 | Artej | dselect fedora |
| 16:19.44 | dselect | Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/ |
| 16:19.56 | Artej | heh, you've got everything |
| 16:20.03 | Artej | dselect headless xorg |
| 16:20.04 | dselect | Artej: I give up, what is it? |
| 16:20.06 | johanskizo | rufus desn't support linux platform? :( |
| 16:20.08 | Stiffler | rufus is windwos only |
| 16:20.15 | Stiffler | man where u guys from .... |
| 16:20.41 | nmschulte | I'm having trouble resolving domain names on a Debian 8 VM (QEMU, on Debian Sid host). The machine is using usermode networking, and there is an ipv6 addr in /etc/resolv.conf -- I can't ping the gateway on my LAN from the VM. |
| 16:20.41 | Stiffler | really what answer i am geting from debian irc makes my heart bleed |
| 16:20.43 | jelly | Europe? |
| 16:20.47 | nmschulte | Any ideas how to get networking going? |
| 16:20.52 | johnkeates | trumpistan |
| 16:21.15 | johanskizo | hey it posible to make debian jessie terminal transparant? |
| 16:21.15 | jelly | Stiffler: sorry, if you don't like CLI tools you're going to have a hard time anyway |
| 16:21.20 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@103.213.15.206) |
| 16:21.34 | abrotman | johanskizo: there are probably 30 terminal emulators for Xorg in Jessie .. |
| 16:21.45 | jelly | Stiffler: if there's a tool in Mint the right place to ask is a Mint support channel |
| 16:22.26 | jelly | johanskizo: rxvt-unicode, konsole, and many others can be transparent |
| 16:22.31 | nmschulte | I changed /etc/resolv.conf to 10.0.2.3 and it works now. |
| 16:24.18 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@103.213.15.206) |
| 16:25.56 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.166) |
| 16:26.14 | *** join/#debian julius_ (~jason4@dslb-092-077-030-144.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 16:26.22 | *** join/#debian rosten (~rosten@cpe-45-48-9-161.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 16:27.09 | *** join/#debian OS-24598 (~OS-24598@116.75.87.100) |
| 16:27.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 16:27.29 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.228.0.236 eir] by eir |
| 16:30.03 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 16:30.29 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@103.213.15.206) |
| 16:30.31 | *** join/#debian rsarson (~rsarson@2607:fea8:29e0:257:7881:43f6:b53d:1008) |
| 16:31.56 | *** join/#debian yht (~yht@110.138.69.20) |
| 16:32.24 | *** join/#debian converge (~converge@unaffiliated/joaop) |
| 16:32.38 | *** part/#debian Piraty (~quassel@ip156.172.mip.uni-hannover.de) |
| 16:32.42 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@91.160.41.30) |
| 16:32.45 | *** join/#debian crayon (~user@unaffiliated/crayon) |
| 16:33.00 | *** join/#debian zanshin (~zanshin@krayt.ome.ksu.edu) |
| 16:33.09 | *** join/#debian musicnate (~musicnate@S010630b5c2fb31cf.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 16:33.19 | Emil | Hey |
| 16:33.34 | *** join/#debian idts (~lxuser@unaffiliated/tdis) |
| 16:33.35 | Emil | My Debian install is saying "You have new mail" all the frigging time |
| 16:33.35 | *** join/#debian julius_ (~jason4@dslb-092-077-030-144.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 16:33.42 | Emil | without there actually being new mail |
| 16:34.02 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 16:34.06 | Artej | but have you checked @Emil? |
| 16:34.43 | *** join/#debian Maxou (~maxou@46.252.178.180) |
| 16:35.22 | Emil | Yes |
| 16:35.27 | RoyK | Emil: just run "mail" or "mutt" or "alpine" or something that checks for local mail - it should be in the file pointed to by the variable $MAIL |
| 16:35.34 | Emil | Artej: I have catted the file, opened it in nano and whatnot |
| 16:35.36 | jelly | Emil: ls -ld /var/mail/$USER |
| 16:36.05 | jelly | show the output. Is the timestamp recent? |
| 16:36.23 | *** join/#debian centrx (~centrx@pool-96-237-225-85.bstnma.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:36.23 | Emil | jelly: I manually updated the timestamp with opening and saving in nano and now it went away |
| 16:36.31 | Emil | Before it worked with just catting |
| 16:36.44 | Emil | jelly: timestamp was recent |
| 16:37.12 | Emil | Another question: what is your preferred folder encryption program (cli)? |
| 16:37.34 | Emil | Preferably block based so that changing one bit doesn't corrupt the whole thing |
| 16:38.32 | *** join/#debian tatalazo_ (68dc44a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.220.68.162) |
| 16:39.00 | *** join/#debian juantelez (~juantelez@unaffiliated/juantelez) |
| 16:39.56 | *** join/#debian gonz0 (~gonz0@r89-pw-tamanduaete.ibys.com.br) |
| 16:40.27 | petn-randall | Emil: I'm guessing that is because a cron job is failing that is running as that user, and it gets delivered locally. |
| 16:40.54 | petn-randall | Emil: Regardings your second question, LUKS. |
| 16:40.57 | petn-randall | -s |
| 16:40.57 | Emil | hmm |
| 16:41.15 | petn-randall | Emil: cat /var/mail/$USER will tell you. |
| 16:41.22 | jelly | luks only works on block devices, so full filesystems, not mere folders |
| 16:41.50 | Emil | jelly: yeah, that's the problem: I'd rather have it encrypt folders and files |
| 16:41.56 | Emil | instead of a full fs |
| 16:42.23 | jelly | encfs is easy to use but has some crypto issues; ecryptfs is kernel based and a bit complicated |
| 16:42.27 | *** join/#debian fhdrin (~fhdrin@136.0.16.230) |
| 16:44.35 | *** join/#debian d3c0 (be742be2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.116.43.226) |
| 16:44.42 | d3c0 | !hi |
| 16:44.50 | *** join/#debian greycat (~wooledg@remote.wooledge.org) |
| 16:45.16 | d3c0 | I can't install the pyodbc!! :( |
| 16:45.41 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 16:46.30 | *** join/#debian Qwertie (~Qwertie@unaffiliated/qwertie) |
| 16:46.39 | *** join/#debian fearnothing (~nothing@unaffiliated/fearnothing) |
| 16:47.27 | jelly | d3c0: which debian release? |
| 16:47.46 | jelly | !bat |
| 16:47.52 | jelly | dselect: bat |
| 16:47.52 | dselect | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 16:48.13 | jelly | d3c0: ^^ pastebin all the info |
| 16:48.33 | jelly | presumably of your python-pyodbc package installation attempt |
| 16:49.06 | d3c0 | I uninstalled the python-pyodbc |
| 16:50.28 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 16:51.13 | d3c0 | pyodbc log : http://pastebin.com/rPBVafif :( |
| 16:52.04 | d3c0 | jelly: what happens with this pyodbc? |
| 16:52.20 | d3c0 | jelly : debian 8 jessie |
| 16:52.49 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:52.59 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@201.165.35.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:53.18 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@flossk/altin) |
| 16:55.07 | jelly | d3c0: why did you uninstall it? |
| 16:55.09 | d3c0 | jelly: do you have some ideas to install the pyodbc API ? |
| 16:55.39 | d3c0 | ok I gonna install right nw |
| 16:55.51 | jelly | that doesn't answer the question |
| 16:56.13 | d3c0 | I thought was the problem |
| 16:56.18 | d3c0 | It was |
| 16:56.26 | d3c0 | I think I wrong |
| 16:56.58 | *** join/#debian Envil (~envil@x55b63e03.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 16:57.03 | jelly | also, I hope you're doing that pip install inside a virtualenv as normal user. Not as root. |
| 16:57.15 | *** join/#debian Lokke1 (~Thunderbi@ip5f5ad2f8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 16:58.30 | d3c0 | I already installed the python-pyodbc |
| 16:58.56 | d3c0 | I guest I shoul be but.. |
| 16:58.57 | *** join/#debian siddfinch (~user@wopr.neodttc.us) |
| 16:59.29 | jelly | so at that point you should not need to install the same thing via pip |
| 16:59.42 | *** join/#debian karthago (~edgrey@178.204.80.109) |
| 16:59.55 | d3c0 | jelly: ok |
| 16:59.56 | jelly | !goal |
| 17:00.05 | d3c0 | 3 2 1... |
| 17:00.24 | greycat | dselect: goal |
| 17:00.25 | dselect | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 17:01.35 | d3c0 | what ? |
| 17:02.07 | jelly | d3c0: why are you installing pyodbc |
| 17:02.07 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@2605:6400:10:a15d:ca7:ea75:b12d:dead) |
| 17:02.17 | jelly | %test |
| 17:02.18 | dselect | Test failed. |
| 17:02.27 | *** join/#debian B[]rG (~tuptidup@46-150-40-173.cable.teleing.net) |
| 17:02.50 | d3c0 | jelly: I need install this API to connect with a sqlserver |
| 17:03.16 | jelly | ms sql server? |
| 17:03.20 | d3c0 | yes |
| 17:03.44 | d3c0 | I have the same error when I do this : pip install pyodbc !! :( |
| 17:04.04 | greycat | *what* error |
| 17:04.06 | jelly | d3c0: it's already installed! Why are you trying to install it again?! |
| 17:04.12 | greycat | Also that. |
| 17:04.21 | jelly | d3c0: fuck, just install python-pymssql |
| 17:04.32 | jelly | and use it |
| 17:04.46 | jelly | ,i python-pymssql |
| 17:04.47 | judd | Package python-pymssql (python, optional) in jessie/amd64: Python database access for MS SQL server and Sybase. Version: 1.0.2+dfsg-1+b3; Size: 50.7k; Installed: 168k |
| 17:04.48 | *** join/#debian otirc (~fish@cpc2-burn7-2-0-cust351.10-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:04.49 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@72.168.160.238) |
| 17:05.19 | *** join/#debian krytarik (~krytarik@xebian/developer/krytarik) |
| 17:05.27 | jelly | no reason to compile stuff when it's already present in the distro |
| 17:05.43 | *** join/#debian shootbird (~quassel@beepbeep.serverpit.com) |
| 17:06.15 | jelly | (how did I find it? apt-cache search mssql python) |
| 17:06.18 | d3c0 | jelly: :D apt-get install python-pyodbc , pip install pyodbc ---fail |
| 17:06.36 | jelly | d3c0: YOU DO NOT NEED TO pip install pyodbc ANY MORE |
| 17:06.49 | d3c0 | jelly: ok ok!! |
| 17:06.53 | greycat | He doesn't even need python-pyodbc either, according to what judd told us. |
| 17:07.14 | greycat | Not that I know anything at all about accessing MS SQL server with python. |
| 17:07.40 | d3c0 | pyodbc API for this: https://github.com/michiya/django-pyodbc-azure |
| 17:07.42 | jelly | no idea if that package relies on pyodbc or uses freetds directly |
| 17:07.53 | *** join/#debian davlab (~davlab@net77-43-3-082.mclink.it) |
| 17:08.41 | todd_dsm | changing the shebang to "#!/bin/bash" fixed the issue. turns out, the script was run with sudo so the default shell for root is /bin/sh. |
| 17:08.42 | *** join/#debian benlue (~benlue@2001:41d0:fe59:9200::11) |
| 17:08.49 | *** join/#debian murphy (~murphy@8.19.46.3) |
| 17:09.15 | jelly | d3c0: so skip the step for installing pyodbc, you've done that, and move to the next step of whatever tutorial you're blindly following |
| 17:09.28 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 17:09.31 | *** join/#debian Nnavd (~Nnavd@d50-92-9-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 17:09.44 | todd_dsm | Question, why was dash implemented over bash? I'd like to understand the philosophy of the debian system. |
| 17:09.56 | jelly | todd_dsm: it's smaller and starts faster |
| 17:10.07 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 17:10.57 | jelly | if, for example, someone's using an init system that relies a lot on /bin/sh scripts, it adds up to a measurable effect |
| 17:11.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.29 | *** mode/#debian [-bqbo *!*@159.203.20.9 *!*@138.197.132.52 *!*@138.197.132.52 eir] by eir |
| 17:12.35 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 17:14.19 | todd_dsm | jelly: that's it? nothing about being more POSIX compliant or something really meaty? |
| 17:14.35 | *** join/#debian SpeccyMan (~nick@94.197.120.46.threembb.co.uk) |
| 17:14.41 | jelly | if anything bash is probably less buggy and more compliant |
| 17:14.50 | greycat | Differently buggy. |
| 17:14.53 | *** join/#debian SCHAAP137 (~SCHAAP137@unaffiliated/schaap137) |
| 17:14.54 | *** join/#debian remo (~remo@235-82-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 17:15.05 | jelly | mksh for everyone! |
| 17:15.19 | greycat | Every shell has a unique set of bugs. Like a snowflake full of ants. |
| 17:16.02 | jelly | todd_dsm: amusingly there's a shell in Debian that aims to _only_ implement the POSIX sh compliant features, nothing more, nothing less |
| 17:16.09 | jelly | ,i posh |
| 17:16.18 | d3c0 | jelly: ok the same error :'( |
| 17:16.28 | d3c0 | I gonna reinstall this ... |
| 17:16.30 | greycat | *what* error |
| 17:16.33 | judd | Package posh (shells, optional) in jessie/amd64: Policy-compliant Ordinary SHell. Version: 0.12.3; Size: 85.6k; Installed: 201k; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/posh |
| 17:16.47 | jelly | d3c0: which error? which command did you run? |
| 17:17.01 | jelly | judd: wow you're slow today |
| 17:17.01 | greycat | Hint: we can't see your screen. |
| 17:17.26 | todd_dsm | I can :-| |
| 17:17.40 | d3c0 | jelly: I run django framework, doesn't find the pyodbc |
| 17:18.12 | d3c0 | Error loading pyodbc module: No module named 'pyodbc' |
| 17:19.01 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 17:19.05 | *** join/#debian Fr_Dae (~Dae@did75-h11-89-86-12-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 17:19.20 | jelly | d3c0: does this django thing use python2 or python3? |
| 17:19.39 | d3c0 | interesting, I use the 3 |
| 17:20.18 | jelly | debian 8 does not seem to ship a build of pyodbc for python3 |
| 17:20.56 | TomTomTo1 | and the pip command is for installing python 2 packages. |
| 17:21.11 | jelly | is it now? I honestly have no idea |
| 17:21.12 | d3c0 | what ? |
| 17:21.30 | d3c0 | :'( are you sure? |
| 17:21.32 | TomTomTo1 | yes, pip3 is for python 3. |
| 17:21.37 | TomTomTo1 | man pip ^^ |
| 17:21.42 | FinalX | apt-get install python3-pip .. |
| 17:21.43 | d3c0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.59 | d3c0 | let me do that |
| 17:22.04 | jelly | ,v python3-pip |
| 17:22.05 | judd | Package: python3-pip on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.1-3; jessie: 1.5.6-5; stretch: 8.1.2-2; sid: 8.1.2-3; stretch: 8.1.2-3 |
| 17:22.14 | jelly | ,i python3-pip |
| 17:22.15 | judd | Package python3-pip (python, optional) in jessie/amd64: alternative Python package installer - Python 3 version of the package. Version: 1.5.6-5; Size: 94.9k; Installed: 441k; Homepage: http://www.pip-installer.org/ |
| 17:23.13 | d3c0 | installing xD |
| 17:23.32 | jelly | that would explain why the relevant -dev package was apparently not installed |
| 17:24.15 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-221-230.home.otenet.gr) |
| 17:24.50 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udpwzwikrthsgswx) |
| 17:25.04 | *** join/#debian warsoul (warsoul@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-vcrivhnrgwgicvxw) |
| 17:25.04 | *** join/#debian warsoul (warsoul@unaffiliated/warsoul) |
| 17:25.04 | *** join/#debian warsoul (warsoul@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-vcrivhnrgwgicvxw) |
| 17:25.07 | *** join/#debian karimb (~karimb@89.107.183.7) |
| 17:25.40 | *** join/#debian nikoma (~nikoma@ip4-95-82-164-56.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 17:25.54 | jelly | ,v python3-pyodbc |
| 17:25.55 | judd | Package: python3-pyodbc on amd64 -- stretch: 3.0.10-2; sid: 3.0.10-2 |
| 17:26.24 | *** join/#debian nathanleclaire (~nathanlec@c-73-189-234-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:26.46 | *** join/#debian James_T (james@2400:8901:e002::dead:face:b00c) |
| 17:27.26 | jelly | d3c0: I'm guessing wildly you'll also want to install tdsodbc |
| 17:28.16 | *** join/#debian ki0_ (~ki0@46.red-213-4-16.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:28.26 | *** join/#debian SuperTramp83 (~gnu@unaffiliated/supertramp83) |
| 17:28.29 | *** join/#debian Guest8095 (~abc@213.147.97.58) |
| 17:28.38 | *** join/#debian toli (~toli@ip-62-235-238-98.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:29.05 | *** join/#debian bvs (~beavis@c83-250-85-208.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:29.05 | *** join/#debian bvs (~beavis@unaffiliated/bvs) |
| 17:29.34 | d3c0 | BOYS!! |
| 17:29.41 | d3c0 | you are the best!! |
| 17:29.49 | d3c0 | xD |
| 17:30.06 | d3c0 | the pip3 was the solution my god! |
| 17:30.17 | Guest8095 | Hey folks, who can point me to the right direction in understanding why a Jessie installation I've done on 3 machines multiple times doesn't want to boot from any of them after installation? I suspect this has to do with UEFI and Legacy boot, but I have no idea why it doesn't work by default and/or how to fix it |
| 17:30.39 | Guest8095 | After everything goes well and the machine reboots after installation, I just get a blank screen and it won't boot grub |
| 17:31.04 | *** join/#debian GJ_ (~Thunderbi@88.159.116.196) |
| 17:31.28 | Guest8095 | And I've tried changing the BIOS settings to enable/disable UEFI, and/or to use just one or the other, all with the same unsuccessful result |
| 17:31.52 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflops@mysticemporium.net) |
| 17:31.52 | *** join/#debian Stranger09 (~stranger0@103.213.15.206) |
| 17:32.09 | petn-randall | Hi Guest8095, how did you prepare the installation medium? That is, what image did you use, and with what commands did you put it into the CD/DVD/USB device? |
| 17:32.35 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 17:32.49 | *** join/#debian xehbit (~xehbit@2a01:7c8:aac3:276:5054:ff:fe4a:69c1) |
| 17:33.15 | petn-randall | Guest8095: In general it will only boot in the same mode as it was installed. That is pretty universal for all OSes, even Windows. So if you flipped from UEFI to BIOS or other way around after installation, you'll always get an unbootable system. |
| 17:33.22 | *** join/#debian hue- (hue@zirc/eclipse) |
| 17:34.42 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@91.160.41.30) |
| 17:34.57 | *** join/#debian Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@unaffiliated/nh3xus) |
| 17:35.59 | *** join/#debian Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) |
| 17:36.01 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 17:36.08 | Guest8095 | petn-randall, standard jessie netinstall image, saved to USB stick with unetbootin |
| 17:36.16 | missmbob | !unetbootin |
| 17:36.16 | Guest8095 | It booted just fine from the stick for install |
| 17:36.35 | missmbob | anyway, you cant use that |
| 17:36.48 | missmbob | unetbootin is known to break debian installer images |
| 17:36.50 | Guest8095 | ah gee, ok good to know |
| 17:36.52 | *** join/#debian vikki (~vikki@122.167.159.51) |
| 17:36.53 | Guest8095 | Thanks |
| 17:36.58 | missmbob | are you using windows? |
| 17:37.03 | *** join/#debian OS-24749 (~OS-24749@128.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 17:37.05 | *** join/#debian Elgixy (~elgix@46.197.34.249) |
| 17:37.07 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@97-90-17-109.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 17:37.27 | *** join/#debian stray (~stray@84.216.70.112) |
| 17:37.37 | missmbob | which OS are you copying the iso to the usb with? |
| 17:37.56 | *** join/#debian bollo (~bollo@unaffiliated/bollo) |
| 17:37.58 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~agiofws@2a02:582:7ca5:aa00:196c:d996:157c:b919) |
| 17:38.00 | Elgixy | Hi, i just installed Jessie Gnome from DVD , i was able to put icon on the top bar. I want to do the same on Jessie, is it possible ? |
| 17:39.27 | *** join/#debian Olipro (~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro) |
| 17:39.29 | petn-randall | dselect: unetbootin |
| 17:39.29 | dselect | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 17:39.33 | petn-randall | Guest8095: ^^^^ |
| 17:40.05 | mtn | Elgixy: what were you using when you could put the icon on the top bar? |
| 17:40.13 | petn-randall | Elgixy: Gnome is part of jessie. Do you mean xfce4? |
| 17:40.48 | Elgixy | mtn: i was using Wizzy with Gnome desktop |
| 17:41.05 | mtn | Elgixy: you mean wheezy? |
| 17:41.12 | Elgixy | sorry yes |
| 17:41.46 | mtn | Elgixy: what kind of icons? apps or notification icons? |
| 17:42.07 | Elgixy | app icons |
| 17:42.17 | Guest8095 | !usb install |
| 17:42.19 | *** join/#debian rsarson (~rsarson@2607:fea8:29e0:257:7881:43f6:b53d:1008) |
| 17:42.27 | mtn | Elgixy: I am sure there is some sort of extension you can install, but you will have to find the name by using a search engine |
| 17:42.44 | mtn | Elgixy: gnome has lots of extensions available |
| 17:43.01 | *** join/#debian Guest80364 (~electro7@host86-162-141-198.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:43.12 | missmbob | Guest8095: you answer questions if you want better help |
| 17:43.54 | Elgixy | mtn: what kind of extension ? don't you think it's already on DVD1 ? |
| 17:44.06 | *** join/#debian deeb (~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:44.23 | mtn | Elgixy: they are called gnome extensions. some you can see in the tweak tool. others can be added from there, too |
| 17:44.36 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 17:44.44 | Elgixy | so what exactly the name of the ext i need ? |
| 17:44.44 | *** join/#debian stoffepojken (~stoffe@h-148-185.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 17:44.56 | petn-randall | Guest8095: /msg dselect usb install |
| 17:45.12 | petn-randall | Guest8095: Our main bot dpkg is currently broken. |
| 17:45.21 | Guest8095 | petn-randall, right, figured it and already done so. Thanks! |
| 17:45.51 | mtn | Elgixy: did you not see where I said to use a search engine to find it? |
| 17:47.01 | Elgixy | mtn : you just said extension , and lots of it, what do i need ? |
| 17:47.15 | *** join/#debian tadej (~universe@tadej.nl) |
| 17:47.23 | mtn | Elgixy: one that puts icons on the panel? sounds like it to me ;) |
| 17:47.33 | greycat | https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=gnome%20extension%20add%20app%20icon%20to%20top%20bar |
| 17:47.36 | *** join/#debian jnavila (~jnavila@2a01:e35:2ef1:f910:2cf8:87ce:a4a1:42ee) |
| 17:47.52 | mtn | yay! google to the rescue! |
| 17:48.02 | Elgixy | the programs i have written in Qt dont look the way i want. |
| 17:48.14 | greycat | He's a programmer and he can't figure out how to ask google a question? |
| 17:48.15 | Elgixy | is it Gtk ? |
| 17:48.22 | greycat | yes, gnome uses gtk |
| 17:48.24 | mtn | heh |
| 17:48.35 | *** join/#debian Fr_Dae (~Dae@did75-h11-89-86-12-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 17:48.45 | *** join/#debian ExoUNX (~ExoUNX@unaffiliated/exounx) |
| 17:48.45 | benlue | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gnome+extension+add+app+icon+to+top+bar&t=ffsb&ia=qa |
| 17:48.50 | benlue | :P |
| 17:49.14 | *** join/#debian akash_ (uid150251@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sybiboqwyxxgqfqp) |
| 17:49.18 | Elgixy | greycat: as you said i code programs, and i use linux only because i feel its secure, especially linux live. |
| 17:49.38 | *** join/#debian macartur (~macartur@gwime.semfio.usp.br) |
| 17:49.52 | Elgixy | i dont have time to check how linux colors desktop environment. |
| 17:49.54 | *** join/#debian posi (sid124649@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skpxkoeoowbdusda) |
| 17:50.01 | *** join/#debian `z (sid68223@wikipedia/Zhaofeng-Li) |
| 17:50.02 | *** join/#debian lift (~lift@2a04:1980:3100:1aab:e61d:2dff:fe29:f1e1) |
| 17:50.05 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 17:50.16 | greycat | Then I don't have time to listen to you whine. |
| 17:50.18 | missmbob | "i build rockets but i dont understand chemistry" |
| 17:50.19 | *** join/#debian ashb (sid79875@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wpfcgdsyynlwmkqx) |
| 17:52.36 | Elgixy | mtn: please give me a better clue, i have seen people spoon feed kids here for very simple quesitons. i want my Wheezy desktop style back in Jessie , thats all. |
| 17:52.58 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 17:53.07 | mtn | Elgixy: log out, choose gnome classic, I think it is, log in |
| 17:53.19 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m8@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 17:53.21 | jelly | Elgixy: possibly switch to mate desktop environment if gnome classic is not close enough |
| 17:53.29 | Elgixy | in Wheezy thats what i do. Here it didnt work |
| 17:53.38 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 17:53.46 | *** join/#debian silverhom (~silverhom@c83-252-238-248.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:53.47 | mtn | looks for a very large spoon |
| 17:53.55 | jelly | gnome 3 in jessie is a lot different from 2.x in wheezy |
| 17:54.05 | missmbob | jelly just gave him the spoon. install mate |
| 17:54.11 | *** join/#debian sputnik (~kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf) |
| 17:54.15 | mtn | there is no spoon |
| 17:54.21 | *** join/#debian blipz (~blipz@46.101.85.139) |
| 17:54.41 | jelly | mate is a fork of gnome 2 iirc |
| 17:54.56 | jelly | %mate |
| 17:55.15 | jelly | ,i task-mate-desktop |
| 17:55.21 | dselect | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 17:55.34 | judd | Package task-mate-desktop (tasks, optional) in jessie/amd64: MATE. Version: 3.31+deb8u1; Size: 1.0k; Installed: 21k |
| 17:55.44 | jelly | dselect: why are you slow, you don't even use the database thingy! |
| 17:55.44 | dselect | jelly: I think you lost me on that one |
| 17:55.49 | Elgixy | ok i will check mate, thanks mate ! |
| 17:56.03 | *** join/#debian KB3VGW- (~Rich@12.144.144.173) |
| 17:56.20 | KB3VGW- | ok anyone know how to rem a custom made device |
| 17:56.32 | jelly | rem? |
| 17:56.32 | KB3VGW- | having issues with rm a rtc I added |
| 17:56.43 | jelly | how did you add it? |
| 17:56.47 | KB3VGW- | remove |
| 17:57.42 | KB3VGW- | I folled the page on how toset it up |
| 17:58.00 | jelly | ah, the page. |
| 17:58.03 | jelly | which page?! |
| 17:58.04 | mtn | heh |
| 17:58.12 | KB3VGW- | and I tried the echo 0xid >> path/delete.device |
| 17:58.34 | KB3VGW- | 1 min |
| 17:58.36 | greycat | what in the hell is that even supposed to do |
| 17:58.55 | jelly | KB3VGW-: which debian release are you using, and are you using some sort of unusual or embedded hardware plaform? |
| 17:58.57 | greycat | Starting with "0xid is not a valid hexadecimal number" |
| 17:59.09 | KB3VGW- | like 0x51 |
| 17:59.12 | jelly | I assumed that was pseudocode |
| 17:59.17 | KB3VGW- | yes |
| 17:59.19 | *** join/#debian insane_tesla (~docker@233.red-213-97-251.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:59.21 | insane_tesla | hi |
| 17:59.21 | greycat | Why can't you just write 0x51 then? It's not any longer. |
| 17:59.31 | KB3VGW- | well it had 2 id |
| 17:59.33 | jelly | because "path/delete.device" isn't a valid /sys/ path either |
| 17:59.38 | KB3VGW- | 2 diff chips I tried |
| 17:59.44 | greycat | What's the signifance of 0x51, what device node did you ACTUALLY write it to, what did youe expect to happen, what happened? |
| 17:59.46 | KB3VGW- | 51 and 68 |
| 17:59.46 | insane_tesla | I've got a simple question: Why deleting a directory has to be done recursively? |
| 18:00.07 | greycat | You can't delete a directory with stuff in it. It has to be empty. |
| 18:00.07 | jhutchins | insane_tesla: You have to delete what's in it first. |
| 18:00.08 | insane_tesla | even if the directory is empty |
| 18:00.10 | jelly | insane_tesla: to avoid leaving cruft in the filesystem |
| 18:00.20 | greycat | You can delete an empty directory: rmdir dirname |
| 18:00.34 | jhutchins | insane_tesla: It just follows the standard procedure even if it's empty so it's consistent. |
| 18:00.52 | jhutchins | insane_tesla: Also makes sure you know you're deleting a directory, not a symlink or file. |
| 18:01.24 | KB3VGW- | looking for the page 1 min |
| 18:01.35 | jelly | awaits with bated breath |
| 18:01.53 | KB3VGW- | https://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/17209332-adding-a-real-time-clock-to-your-raspberry-pi |
| 18:02.02 | jelly | KB3VGW-: which debian release are you using, and are you using some sort of unusual or embedded hardware plaform? |
| 18:02.13 | KB3VGW- | arm |
| 18:02.21 | KB3VGW- | pi |
| 18:02.29 | jelly | do you have an actual debian installation there, or raspbian? |
| 18:02.35 | greycat | I bet it's not even Debian. Probably Raspbian. |
| 18:02.41 | *** join/#debian surge (4cbb070f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.76.187.7.15) |
| 18:02.50 | KB3VGW- | raspbian |
| 18:03.00 | KB3VGW- | its debian |
| 18:03.01 | *** join/#debian alxy (uid115853@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qazsznfnovqwredt) |
| 18:03.08 | greycat | %raspbian |
| 18:03.10 | jelly | KB3VGW-: ask in #raspbian channel, then |
| 18:03.12 | dselect | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 18:03.27 | KB3VGW- | I did they sent me here |
| 18:03.50 | jhutchins | KB3VGW-: Bad on them then. |
| 18:03.52 | jelly | let me look at #raspbian logs |
| 18:03.57 | greycat | Probably because you wrote bullshit like echo 0xid >> path/delete.device instead of something actually meaningful. |
| 18:03.58 | surge | Is make your only option if you want to use the latest update of software that's not in the repository? |
| 18:04.11 | KB3VGW- | ok |
| 18:04.14 | KB3VGW- | like |
| 18:04.16 | jelly | KB3VGW-: when was this? |
| 18:04.19 | *** join/#debian Death_rattle (~death@p5DC9B655.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:04.29 | jelly | KB3VGW-: don't see you there in the last 12 hours |
| 18:04.37 | jhutchins | !tell surge about ssb |
| 18:04.54 | *** join/#debian jakew (~jakew@adsl-065-015-102-004.sip.jan.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:05.01 | KB3VGW- | was looking logs diff server not freenode |
| 18:05.07 | *** join/#debian Guest67184 (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 18:05.14 | KB3VGW- | so on freenode I had not been in that channel |
| 18:05.36 | missmbob | no time like the present |
| 18:05.49 | TomTomTo1 | surge: depends on the software. |
| 18:05.57 | surge | Snort |
| 18:06.21 | jelly | KB3VGW-: if you remember who sent you to #debian, maybe mention it so they can receive a spanking |
| 18:06.37 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 18:06.48 | jelly | this channel typically knows fuck-all about device trees or r.pi |
| 18:06.48 | TomTomTo1 | ,checkbackport snort |
| 18:06.51 | judd | Backporting package snort in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libdaq-dev. |
| 18:06.57 | TomTomTo1 | :/ |
| 18:07.09 | *** part/#debian Elgixy (~elgix@46.197.34.249) |
| 18:07.24 | TomTomTo1 | ,checkbackport daq |
| 18:07.25 | judd | Backporting package daq in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 18:07.27 | KB3VGW- | ok jelly |
| 18:07.34 | KB3VGW- | on raspbian channel now |
| 18:08.12 | *** join/#debian d3fc0n (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 18:08.21 | TomTomTo1 | surge: sid has 2.9.7 if that's fine for you. you would have to backport daq first, then snort. the bot already sent instructions. |
| 18:08.39 | jelly | [17:52] <KB3VGW> have to get a diff chip for the pi #raspbian yesterday, UTC timezone |
| 18:08.40 | TomTomTo1 | surge: otherwise, if you want to build it from upstream source, have a look at checkinstall. |
| 18:09.11 | surge | okay |
| 18:09.17 | jelly | KB3VGW-: so it was freenode, but not today and I don't see anyone telling you to ask in #debian |
| 18:09.26 | surge | I used ./configure and it said i needed libcap |
| 18:09.45 | greycat | The find the libcap devel package and install that and repeat. |
| 18:09.59 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 18:10.01 | jelly | KB3VGW-: if anything, #debian-arm on OFTC (irc.oftc.net, or irc.debian.org is the same thing) would be a better place |
| 18:10.06 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.07 | KB3VGW- | no it was on efnet |
| 18:10.13 | *** join/#debian BlueByte (~walther@ipservice-092-211-087-195.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 18:10.13 | greycat | oops, that was the wrong one... |
| 18:10.15 | jelly | ah |
| 18:10.18 | greycat | apt-cache search --names-only -- lib cap -dev |
| 18:10.25 | surge | okay |
| 18:10.26 | *** join/#debian converge (~converge@177.125.234.219) |
| 18:10.43 | *** join/#debian converge (~converge@unaffiliated/joaop) |
| 18:11.30 | *** join/#debian bmr (bmr@nat/redhat/x-vmrhpztfskthzydf) |
| 18:12.00 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 18:12.29 | *** join/#debian zyclonicz (~zyclonicz@2a02:2b88:2:1::3e3a:1) |
| 18:13.12 | KB3VGW- | on oftc now |
| 18:14.01 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@244.red-79-153-71.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:14.39 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boudiccas@175.106.7.51.dyn.plus.net) |
| 18:14.41 | jhutchins | According to this https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianIRC the #raspian channel here on freenode is the official one. |
| 18:15.25 | *** join/#debian meauses (~Niels@ip503d5dba.speed.planet.nl) |
| 18:18.15 | *** join/#debian elky (~elky@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elky) |
| 18:18.55 | *** join/#debian hspcd_ (~hspcd@209.194.238.238) |
| 18:19.23 | *** join/#debian __R__ (~boss@95.84.66.72) |
| 18:22.03 | *** part/#debian __R__ (~boss@95.84.66.72) |
| 18:23.07 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 18:23.12 | *** join/#debian Echo6 (~Echo6@64.136.247.50) |
| 18:23.19 | *** join/#debian chanpibe (~oscar@host167.190-228-99.telecom.net.ar) |
| 18:24.13 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 18:24.27 | *** join/#debian ChrisWarrick (kwpolska@nikola/developer/kwpolska) |
| 18:25.00 | *** part/#debian yottabyte (48008896@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.0.136.150) |
| 18:25.42 | *** part/#debian ChrisWarrick (kwpolska@nikola/developer/kwpolska) |
| 18:25.47 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 18:27.25 | *** join/#debian warsoul (warsoul@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-ctxuogjjojfasyry) |
| 18:27.25 | *** join/#debian warsoul (warsoul@unaffiliated/warsoul) |
| 18:27.25 | *** join/#debian warsoul (warsoul@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-ctxuogjjojfasyry) |
| 18:27.32 | *** part/#debian chanpibe (~oscar@host167.190-228-99.telecom.net.ar) |
| 18:27.56 | *** join/#debian vikki (~vikki@122.167.159.51) |
| 18:28.06 | *** join/#debian djD3f (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 18:29.32 | *** join/#debian qqx (~qqx@pug.qqx.org) |
| 18:29.34 | *** join/#debian vjacob (~textual@ip1.c3268.amb314.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 18:29.43 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 18:29.46 | *** join/#debian cosmos_ (~quassel@193-83-46-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 18:30.27 | *** join/#debian Attoy (~attoy@46.101.120.76) |
| 18:30.38 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 18:30.58 | vjacob | Hello all. I am getting an error from fsck (upon boot jumping out to maintenance mode) indicating that the filesystem of my /home partition according to superblock has a size which is larger than the physical size of the device. What would be the best way to resolve such a situation? |
| 18:31.07 | vjacob | the last thing that I did was use a lvresize command (the partitions are all of them LVM-based) |
| 18:33.29 | *** join/#debian debhelper (~debhelper@crito.ucr.edu) |
| 18:33.43 | *** join/#debian wonton_ (~wonton@unaffiliated/wonton) |
| 18:33.43 | *** join/#debian debhelper (~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper) |
| 18:33.43 | *** mode/#debian [+o debhelper] by ChanServ |
| 18:34.24 | *** join/#debian EduDamGv2 (~egalvan@157.92.96.250) |
| 18:34.56 | *** join/#debian fguide (~fguide@unaffiliated/fguide) |
| 18:36.06 | *** join/#debian gonzaloaf (beed0a12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.237.10.18) |
| 18:36.16 | *** part/#debian KB3VGW- (~Rich@12.144.144.173) |
| 18:38.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1735] by debhelper |
| 18:40.09 | *** join/#debian converge (~converge@unaffiliated/joaop) |
| 18:41.08 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 18:42.16 | *** join/#debian sandeepkr_ (~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5) |
| 18:42.43 | *** join/#debian deeb (~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 18:44.12 | *** join/#debian ryouma (~user@unaffiliated/ryouma) |
| 18:44.47 | jelly | vjacob: roughly: 1) carefully restore old LV geometry and size from lvm backups of the relevant VG 2) next time, _first_ shrink the filesystem _then_ shrink the underlying block device (the LV in question) |
| 18:45.06 | jelly | /etc/lvm/backups/ |
| 18:45.42 | jelly | /etc/lvm/backup/ that is * |
| 18:45.56 | *** join/#debian fguide (~fguide@unaffiliated/fguide) |
| 18:46.08 | *** join/#debian overlord_tm (~andraz@213.172.234.141) |
| 18:46.18 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 18:46.58 | humbag | is it |
| 18:47.02 | humbag | oops |
| 18:47.16 | *** join/#debian netzfisch (~Thunderbi@x55b06191.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 18:47.31 | *** join/#debian marcozink (~marcozink@201.141.17.165) |
| 18:48.11 | *** join/#debian sandeepkr_ (~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5) |
| 18:48.34 | vjacob | jelly: thank you very much. I will try that |
| 18:48.48 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:49.05 | *** part/#debian LorD_n1c0w (~igorhenri@177.75.77.4) |
| 18:49.20 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@91.160.41.30) |
| 18:50.02 | *** join/#debian karimb (~karimb@87.pool85-52-16.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 18:50.18 | *** join/#debian hugleo (~ths@unaffiliated/hugleo) |
| 18:50.27 | *** join/#debian samodid (~vsamodid@2001:67c:1324:cf01::1000) |
| 18:51.08 | *** join/#debian pencilandpaper (~penciland@unaffiliated/pencilandpaper) |
| 18:52.21 | vjacob | jelly what would I be looking for in particular in that backup file, if you have any thoughts on this? What am I hoping to find in there? Something in the logical volumes section? |
| 18:52.44 | *** join/#debian pLk (~sherwood@dyndsl-092-252-026-070.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 18:52.50 | *** join/#debian t0mmy (~tprrt@217.114.201.133) |
| 18:53.03 | *** join/#debian N3X15 (~Rob@2602:47:23a5:5b00:8da:161c:65de:4d81) |
| 18:54.20 | *** join/#debian Lowl3v3l (~Lowl3v3l@ip5f5ad506.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 18:55.03 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-201-218.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 18:58.43 | *** join/#debian nidr0x (~z4.30i@nidr0x.ddns.jazztel.es) |
| 18:59.06 | *** join/#debian t0mmy (~tprrt@217.114.201.133) |
| 18:59.42 | vjacob | jelly might I be able to do something like what is shown in example 4 here? https://alnitech.com/whmcs/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=4 |
| 19:00.51 | *** join/#debian maziar (~textual@5.202.249.190) |
| 19:01.04 | *** join/#debian tww3 (~tww@222.18.167.202) |
| 19:01.08 | *** join/#debian nathanleclaire (~nathanlec@50-233-46-103-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:01.12 | *** join/#debian maziar (~textual@unaffiliated/maziar) |
| 19:01.19 | *** join/#debian ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@87.117.15.99) |
| 19:01.22 | *** join/#debian Rackham (~Rackham@199-7-156-131.eng.wind.ca) |
| 19:01.56 | vjacob | I guess not |
| 19:02.31 | *** join/#debian _foldLeft (~foldleft@205.153.36.170) |
| 19:03.56 | *** join/#debian crayon (~user@unaffiliated/crayon) |
| 19:04.22 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~k@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 19:04.45 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 19:04.51 | *** part/#debian gonzaloaf (beed0a12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.237.10.18) |
| 19:05.26 | *** join/#debian faw (~faw@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 19:05.29 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@159.22.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 19:05.59 | *** join/#debian gdot (~gdot@pD9FEC022.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:06.02 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~ghost@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 19:08.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1745] by debhelper |
| 19:08.22 | vjacob | is there any way that I can simply mount ignoring any partition size errors? (Read-only using -o ro) ? |
| 19:08.23 | missmbob | why would ccache not be reading ~/.ccache/ccache.conf? |
| 19:08.26 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 19:08.54 | *** join/#debian TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@yes.tenlab.net) |
| 19:10.48 | missmbob | even if i add it to /etc/ccache.conf and ccache -s it doesn't show the changes. hrm |
| 19:11.55 | *** join/#debian h1t3sh (~h1t3sh@43.229.25.179) |
| 19:13.27 | *** join/#debian ma1k (~gyoza.jp@unaffiliated/ma1k) |
| 19:13.51 | jelly | vjacob: use vgcfgrestore to restore the whole VG state to what it was before the messup |
| 19:15.26 | vjacob | jelly: thanks again for sharing your help |
| 19:15.32 | *** join/#debian z0ran (~z0ran@77.105.40.98) |
| 19:15.38 | vjacob | your advice I mean and offering to help |
| 19:15.41 | jelly | vjacob: you're welcome. Also if there's noone else around knowledgeable in lvm, try the #lvm channel here on freenode |
| 19:16.07 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:7df9:8644:1641:3297) |
| 19:16.31 | jelly | vjacob: also I didn't read the link you pasted just yet, busy with something right now |
| 19:17.34 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-221-230.home.otenet.gr) |
| 19:17.45 | vjacob | jelly: no bother. I dont think its worth reading that page either way. thanks for the tip about #lvm |
| 19:17.55 | *** join/#debian tomreyn (~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn) |
| 19:19.10 | *** join/#debian edgrey (~chatzilla@178.204.80.109) |
| 19:20.14 | *** join/#debian magnulu (~magnulu@46.246.20.9) |
| 19:20.22 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:7df9:8644:1641:3297) |
| 19:22.45 | *** join/#debian Janos (~Janos@190.171.102.56) |
| 19:23.31 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 19:24.01 | vjacob | jelly: I dont think vgcfgrestore is going to work, I am seeing errors with "vgcfgrestore -v -l" |
| 19:24.33 | vjacob | on the surface it appeared to complete and work, but with the -l it seems there were a lot of things it was unable to do, and neither fsck gives different results nor does a reboot change matters |
| 19:24.56 | vjacob | we may be down to trying to clone by block and then restoring somehow |
| 19:25.13 | vjacob | I am unsure how to "retrieve" the old geometry |
| 19:25.55 | vjacob | since it was a series of lvresize commands. regardless if I knew them lvresize does not allow me to change given the error status on the parition |
| 19:25.58 | vjacob | partition |
| 19:26.23 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkv@87-231-36-164.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:26.27 | jelly | vjacob: ah yes. vgcfgrestore changes the state on disk, but not in kernel. You need to vgchange -an that VG, and -ay it back online |
| 19:27.02 | jelly | no LVs can be in use for vgchange -an to work |
| 19:27.11 | vjacob | right, so I would have to do it from the boot menu |
| 19:27.31 | jelly | or just reboot instead |
| 19:27.46 | vjacob | but a reboot did not change it |
| 19:27.50 | vjacob | tried that earlier |
| 19:28.30 | jelly | you did a reboot after vgcfgrestore? |
| 19:28.46 | vjacob | yes, that is why I wrote the last part of the sentence at 20:24:33 |
| 19:29.03 | *** join/#debian maotm (~mao@81.24.87.132) |
| 19:29.20 | jelly | perhaps you picked the wrong restore point? |
| 19:30.22 | jelly | vjacob: pastebin the current output of "lsblk", "ls -la /etc/lvm/backup/". What was the size of the affected LV before? |
| 19:30.46 | *** join/#debian InfoTest (~Thunderbi@tgn.149.23.220.dts.mg) |
| 19:30.56 | d3c0 | !hi again |
| 19:31.07 | d3c0 | wine is 100 % sure to use? |
| 19:31.12 | jelly | vjacob: dumpe2fs -h /dev/vgname/lvname will tell you the size in blocks if you don't remember, that's good enough as well |
| 19:31.23 | jelly | d3c0: nothing is 100% sure. NO WARRANTY |
| 19:32.09 | d3c0 | :) ok |
| 19:32.16 | d3c0 | go to install !! |
| 19:32.21 | d3c0 | xD |
| 19:32.26 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 19:32.31 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-sever1-nat-m.pilsfree.net) |
| 19:33.22 | vjacob | jelly, but what would I do with that size amount? |
| 19:33.32 | d3c0 | I need install sone ide to connect with the f sqlserver ! |
| 19:33.43 | jelly | vjacob: you would be able to figure out which backup is the right one |
| 19:33.46 | vjacob | jelly, getting the output as you requested, just need to finish booting |
| 19:34.11 | jelly | (that is, which vg backup has the LV size matching the filesystem size) |
| 19:34.17 | *** join/#debian OS-24749 (~OS-24749@128.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:34.44 | *** join/#debian Shentino (~Shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino) |
| 19:36.03 | *** join/#debian lethu (~lethu@unaffiliated/lethu) |
| 19:36.11 | jelly | also consider grabbing some sort of live cd/dvd/usb linux so you can do "vgchange -an vgname" without having to reboot as much |
| 19:36.11 | *** join/#debian maotm (~mao@81.24.87.128) |
| 19:36.24 | *** join/#debian d3fc0n (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 19:36.27 | jelly | grml.org isn't bad and is debian-based |
| 19:36.34 | vjacob | but there is only one file in there in the /etc/lvm/backup for this volume group. the /etc/lvm/archive dir contains a bunch of files |
| 19:36.49 | jelly | oh, right |
| 19:36.57 | *** join/#debian deeb (~dee@a85-139-8-162.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:37.22 | jelly | don't trust everything people tell you on irc! |
| 19:37.52 | vjacob | :) |
| 19:38.13 | jelly | well then ls -la /etc/lvm/archive/ :-) |
| 19:38.18 | *** join/#debian lethu (~lethu@unaffiliated/lethu) |
| 19:38.43 | *** part/#debian hassoon_ (hassoon@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-baiwhoogjnwccylo) |
| 19:39.08 | vjacob | yeah.... :) |
| 19:39.12 | vjacob | this might be a long night |
| 19:39.16 | *** join/#debian B[]rG (~tuptidup@46-150-40-173.cable.teleing.net) |
| 19:39.42 | *** join/#debian stojic (~ivstojic@unaffiliated/stojic) |
| 19:40.34 | jelly | grabs the chips |
| 19:41.38 | *** join/#debian luxpir (~luxpir@dsl78-143-211-209.in-addr.fast.co.uk) |
| 19:42.44 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~jurisl@cpc74579-lewi13-2-0-cust201.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:45.55 | jelly | vjacob: I'll be afk for a bit, maybe an hour, but now you figured out the _right_ place for previous version backups of VG info, i think you'll be able to at least get the system back to the previous working state |
| 19:46.19 | *** join/#debian julius_ (~jason4@dslb-092-077-030-144.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 19:46.21 | vjacob | jelly: thanks a lot |
| 19:46.27 | vjacob | cya around sometime :D |
| 19:46.50 | *** join/#debian djD3f (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 19:48.18 | *** join/#debian krystof (~titof@ip-107.net-80-236-50.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:50.13 | *** join/#debian RebelCoderRU (~jurisl@cpc74579-lewi13-2-0-cust201.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:51.00 | *** join/#debian ]3n19m4[ (~]3n19m4@77.229.26.33) |
| 19:51.29 | *** join/#debian aem34i (~user@37.254.183.180) |
| 19:51.31 | *** join/#debian tatalazo (~tatalazo@2607:fb90:a493:cdd6:1552:1b40:1787:2f98) |
| 19:51.39 | *** join/#debian Guest28892 (irc@unaffiliated/mosene) |
| 19:51.39 | *** join/#debian Guest28892 (irc@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-koqjpxprgaebwuzj) |
| 19:51.43 | aem34i | How can I disable raw socket processing on an specific interface? |
| 19:52.18 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#debian SpaceAce (~SpaceAce@124-149-89-143.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 19:52.24 | *** join/#debian tatalazo (~tatalazo@2607:fb90:a493:cdd6:1552:1b40:1787:2f98) |
| 19:53.43 | *** join/#debian lethu (~lethu@unaffiliated/lethu) |
| 19:55.23 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (~Huevos@c-76-113-42-18.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 19:55.58 | *** join/#debian ToBeCloud (uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree) |
| 19:58.06 | vjacob | jelly: I just want to say.... you the man! |
| 19:58.51 | obiwahn | aem34i: interfaces are usually not in promiscuous mode |
| 19:59.14 | vjacob | watches hits the switch and watches the rocket boosters turn white... and /home loads |
| 19:59.35 | *** join/#debian ben_roose (~roose@roose.cs.wichita.edu) |
| 19:59.40 | *** join/#debian shootbird (~quassel@beepbeep.serverpit.com) |
| 19:59.57 | *** join/#debian njumdl2014 (~njumdl201@client-104-39-66-98.mobility.psu.edu) |
| 20:01.43 | *** join/#debian tecuzin (~tecuzin@154.70.108.104) |
| 20:02.53 | tecuzin | Hi |
| 20:03.54 | *** join/#debian hotwings (hd@core.apache2.ca) |
| 20:04.14 | *** join/#debian meauses (~Niels@ip503d5dba.speed.planet.nl) |
| 20:07.58 | *** join/#debian koowgnojeel (~user@122.47.13.229) |
| 20:07.58 | *** join/#debian koowgnojeel (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/koowgnojeel) |
| 20:07.59 | *** join/#debian adrem (~adrem@184.53.153.23) |
| 20:08.29 | *** join/#debian kiao2938 (~mj@46.128.154.166.dynamic.cablesurf.de) |
| 20:09.15 | koowgnojeel | [Q] I have installed libuser however with '# lid' I get 'command not found'. |
| 20:11.15 | koowgnojeel | with 'dpkg -L libuser' I get '/usr/sbin/lbuser-lid' and with 'sudo libuser-lid' I get '/etc/libuser.conf': no such file or directory. |
| 20:12.26 | *** join/#debian l3archos (~Icedove@unaffiliated/l3archos) |
| 20:12.47 | *** join/#debian Ormm (~ard1t@unaffiliated/ard1t) |
| 20:13.34 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~jurisl@cpc74579-lewi13-2-0-cust201.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:13.34 | koowgnojeel | [A] fixed with 'sudo touch /etc/libuser.conf' - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libuser/+bug/214959 |
| 20:13.37 | *** join/#debian basic` (sid141140@drupal.org/association-staff/basic) |
| 20:14.11 | posi | I am building a package where the build install is managed by npm. Even worse i need a recent version of npm. Would it be crazy for my deb-src to bring it's own chrooted npm? |
| 20:14.41 | *** join/#debian RogueEcho (~RogueEcho@c-73-250-116-54.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 20:14.52 | *** join/#debian OneORZero (~oscar@host167.190-228-99.telecom.net.ar) |
| 20:15.03 | *** part/#debian koowgnojeel (~user@pdpc/supporter/active/koowgnojeel) |
| 20:16.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 20:16.29 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 eir] by eir |
| 20:17.49 | *** join/#debian tecuzin (~tecuzin@154.70.108.104) |
| 20:19.23 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.38.175.122) |
| 20:19.29 | *** join/#debian humbag (~unkraut@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 20:22.24 | *** join/#debian Fr_Dae (~Dae@did75-h11-89-86-12-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 20:22.57 | obiwahn | posi search for nvm |
| 20:23.12 | posi | haha i was thinking about nvm |
| 20:23.17 | *** join/#debian dqsii (~dqsii@082.203-93-216-nokia-dsl.dynamic.surewest.net) |
| 20:23.26 | *** join/#debian foormea (~foormea@host86-157-142-229.range86-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:23.27 | posi | obiwahn: is this forbidden in packages? |
| 20:24.05 | *** join/#debian sidmo_ (~sidmo@p5489C805.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:24.15 | *** join/#debian OS-24695 (~OS-24695@106.209.157.242) |
| 20:24.23 | obiwahn | forbidden? |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#debian Levure (~quassel@109.132.56.75) |
| 20:24.36 | hotwings | is /lib/systemd/system the correct place for a custom .service file i need to make? or should user-made .service files be placed somewhere else? |
| 20:24.37 | obiwahn | i think you can upgrade npm using npm |
| 20:24.39 | foormea | hi. i'm looking for a general linux&sysadmin reference book. "linux in a nutshell" seems to have had no new edition since 2010. do you still recommend it, or do you recommend some other book? (i realise my question is not debian-specific but i'm not sure where else to ask :/) |
| 20:24.51 | obiwahn | i tend to install everything as user |
| 20:24.51 | *** join/#debian netzfisch (~Thunderbi@x55b06191.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 20:25.07 | obiwahn | so i do not mess up the system ... |
| 20:25.42 | obiwahn | foormea: read manages or ask here |
| 20:25.55 | obiwahn | What do you need to know? |
| 20:26.41 | *** join/#debian Shentino (~Shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino) |
| 20:26.58 | foormea | i just want a general reference book. i find linux in a nutshell really good to remind me of how to use stuff like sed or awk or regex etc, after not using those tools for a while |
| 20:27.14 | foormea | i find the book pretty good to get started and as a mini reference |
| 20:27.54 | foormea | so yeah, i'm used to manpages and google and occasionally asking stuff on IRC |
| 20:28.39 | foormea | i just want something paper for a change, straight to the point, not a manpage, not online |
| 20:28.51 | foormea | well that sort of format |
| 20:29.18 | *** join/#debian ffatman (~ffamousff@2a01:e35:8ad7:6b60:b1eb:c288:4afd:f4da) |
| 20:29.57 | greycat | %handbook |
| 20:29.57 | dselect | The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also can be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>. |
| 20:30.08 | greycat | I don't know how good it is, though. |
| 20:30.23 | jhutchins | foormea: The nutshell books are ok. Running Linux (O'Reilly) is decent, but it goes back to early RedHat. |
| 20:30.27 | obiwahn | ok - Sorry I do understand what you are looking for, but can not help you. I had always some task to solve, general guides had usually not enough detail. |
| 20:30.44 | jhutchins | foormea: They are a good place to start, and more current info tends not to be in printed books anyway. |
| 20:30.52 | jhutchins | foormea: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
| 20:31.24 | jhutchins | Also a bit dated and rethat-ish, but still good basics and good practices. |
| 20:33.10 | obiwahn | foormea: you can learn a lot of interesting stuff just reading #bash |
| 20:33.12 | *** join/#debian aaro (~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147) |
| 20:33.31 | foormea | mhhhhhhh yeah i suppose i could just print some cheat sheets (sed, awk, regexp, common admin/monitoring tools [sar, iostat, ps, tcpdump...] with a summary of their options/flags) |
| 20:33.51 | foormea | cause really you guys are right |
| 20:33.54 | greycat | sar? common? |
| 20:34.03 | Emil | Hey |
| 20:34.11 | Emil | Could someone help with a makefile? |
| 20:34.15 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.15 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.21 | Emil | ? |
| 20:34.36 | Emil | Oh, a reply to someone else |
| 20:34.44 | greycat | If you've been reading books that say sar is common, I say you're in the wrong decade. And the wrong universe. |
| 20:35.07 | *** join/#debian danke (~danke@host86-137-58-167.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:35.18 | obiwahn | Emil: I am good with cmake:P but for simple make it should be enough. Ask your question and we shall see:P |
| 20:35.33 | Emil | obiwahn: https://emil.fi/jako/makefile |
| 20:35.47 | jhutchins | Emil: You might want to paste it to paste.debian.net |
| 20:35.48 | Emil | made sure there is src and obj dirs |
| 20:35.50 | foormea | i haven't been reading books saying that sar is common, i'm just state sar as an example of something i could have a cheatsheet for. i take it you don't find sar useful, or is it deprecated? i don't know, i'm asking an honest questeion |
| 20:36.09 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 20:36.26 | Emil | obiwahn: I made sure there are src and obj dirs |
| 20:36.28 | greycat | It's a System V tool, for proprietary Unices. |
| 20:36.30 | *** join/#debian DrNo (~DrNo@112.58.7.51.dyn.plus.net) |
| 20:36.39 | obiwahn | Emil: what is the problem |
| 20:36.43 | greycat | It's not installed in Debian, at least not by default. |
| 20:36.52 | Emil | and src has one .h and two .c files |
| 20:36.55 | foormea | yep no it's part of the sysstat package |
| 20:37.12 | Emil | obiwahn: fatal error, no input files |
| 20:37.33 | *** join/#debian h9 (Elite17198@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ixpuyogemqthzaxa) |
| 20:37.37 | *** join/#debian anuxivm (~anuxi@92.177.99.40) |
| 20:38.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1737] by debhelper |
| 20:38.07 | obiwahn | $(OBJ): $(OBJDIR)/%.o : $(SRCDIR)/%.c looks odd |
| 20:38.34 | Emil | from this stack overflow |
| 20:38.35 | Emil | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7004702/how-can-i-create-a-makefile-for-c-projects-with-src-obj-and-bin-subdirectories |
| 20:38.44 | *** join/#debian manjaroCinnamon1 (~Manjarous@host-89-241-236-211.as13285.net) |
| 20:39.11 | greycat | Emil: if you're writing your own Makefiles from scratch, I think the recommended channel is ##workingset |
| 20:39.39 | foormea | greycat: http://sebastien.godard.pagesperso-orange.fr/ "the sysstat utilities that I created for Linux" |
| 20:39.45 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@host198-2.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 20:39.51 | *** join/#debian blueness_ (~blueness@gentoo/developer/blueness) |
| 20:39.59 | Emil | greycat: I'm only interested in taking at as far as you can see in the makefile, just that simple makefile |
| 20:40.04 | *** join/#debian canopus (~canopus@unaffiliated/pierrot) |
| 20:40.23 | greycat | It stopped being simple when you made multiple subdirectories for a project that has THREE source files. |
| 20:40.36 | foormea | but anyway. thanks for everyone's response regarding book opinions! |
| 20:40.38 | greycat | Just put them all in one directory, write a 4 line makefile, done. |
| 20:40.44 | *** join/#debian knidos (~knidos@88.246.59.10) |
| 20:41.57 | *** join/#debian Shentino (~Shentino@gentoo/contributor/shentino) |
| 20:42.10 | Emil | greycat: would be awesome if I could reuse it elsewhere |
| 20:42.13 | *** join/#debian jehaby (~urf@95-27-15-206.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 20:42.37 | obiwahn | lets fix it in workingset |
| 20:42.39 | greycat | Then go ask ##workingset for whatever fancy template you want. That's the channel that supports makefiles. |
| 20:43.02 | *** join/#debian _foldLeft (~foldleft@205.153.36.170) |
| 20:43.15 | *** join/#debian surfist (~surfist@122.200.0.2) |
| 20:44.09 | *** join/#debian datasmurf (~datasmurf@unaffiliated/datasmurf) |
| 20:44.11 | *** join/#debian krystof (~titof@ip-107.net-80-236-50.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 20:44.54 | *** join/#debian mihaicmn (~mihaicmn@79.114.92.76) |
| 20:46.07 | *** join/#debian NoteOn (~noteon@s174004.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) |
| 20:47.05 | *** join/#debian moss1 (~moss@ns527644.ip-198-27-66.net) |
| 20:47.20 | *** join/#debian d3fc0n (~forsaken@50-81-193-12.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:47.55 | *** join/#debian shtrb (~shtrb@unaffiliated/shtrb) |
| 20:48.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1745] by debhelper |
| 20:49.11 | *** join/#debian moss (~moss@ns527644.ip-198-27-66.net) |
| 20:49.43 | shtrb | anyone can suggest a usb wifi dongle ( non RTL8188) up to 50$ that works in debian ? (you can run hostapd on it) |
| 20:50.29 | *** join/#debian phila_ (~philamons@fairport-216-226-127-130.monroe.edu) |
| 20:50.50 | *** join/#debian moss (~moss@ns527644.ip-198-27-66.net) |
| 20:50.50 | *** join/#debian moss (~moss@fsf/member/moss) |
| 20:52.59 | jhutchins | shtrb: Most work pretty well, but you can never be sure what chipset you're getting. Some manufacturers change chipsets without renaming the device. |
| 20:53.54 | shtrb | Yeh , I bought three already and all hold the same RTL8188 that isn't supported |
| 20:54.01 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 20:54.22 | *** join/#debian TheDrizzle (~iamthedri@162.216.46.162) |
| 20:54.22 | jhutchins | shtrb: Wow, that's some winning streak. |
| 20:54.31 | shtrb | or a very common chipset |
| 20:54.58 | jhutchins | shtrb: Probably a good idea to search "linux usb wifi" and find accounts of models that work. |
| 20:55.38 | SuperTramp83 | shtrb: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux |
| 20:55.52 | shtrb | someone gave me a link to a store that suppose to sell AR based |
| 20:55.57 | *** join/#debian ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@87.117.15.99) |
| 20:55.58 | shtrb | yeh the same link |
| 20:56.54 | SuperTramp83 | those will work with any distro, they don't require proprietary firmware |
| 20:57.43 | shtrb | thank you |
| 20:58.10 | SuperTramp83 | yw |
| 20:58.34 | *** join/#debian foormea (~foormea@host86-157-142-229.range86-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:59.11 | Emil | obiwahn: managed to help me fix the file. Here's for others interested https://emil.fi/jako/comclean/makefile |
| 21:00.28 | *** part/#debian TheDrizzle (~iamthedri@162.216.46.162) |
| 21:01.17 | *** join/#debian mroe (~roe@unaffiliated/roe) |
| 21:01.29 | *** join/#debian [ADNWO] (~Test@euf3300163-pip.sys.ntt.eu) |
| 21:01.31 | posi | Are source packages allowed to download things? |
| 21:01.45 | posi | Like what if i had a curl ... | bash in my src package? |
| 21:01.52 | somiaj | posi: not by new policy. |
| 21:02.16 | posi | somiaj: ok so what should I do if i want a new nodejs/npm for a package? |
| 21:02.35 | somiaj | posi: https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/upgrading-checklist.txt as of 3.9.7.0 debian/rules target should not attempt network access. (Unsure about any policy regarding if the source itself downloads things) |
| 21:03.05 | jhutchins | posi: Make it a dependency. Package it if necessary/possible, or provide instructions for getting and installing it if not. |
| 21:03.11 | *** join/#debian th0r (~thor@tx-184-7-56-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 21:03.30 | posi | jhutchins: but what happens when i want npm install? |
| 21:03.39 | posi | and it downloads all the javascript |
| 21:04.35 | somiaj | posi: are you trying to figure out policy for a package you are creating? |
| 21:04.52 | somiaj | posi: (i.e. a package you want to get into debian) or just trying to create a package for your own local use? |
| 21:05.00 | posi | I'm trying to create a ppa for the brace webbrowser |
| 21:05.14 | posi | Brave |
| 21:05.29 | somiaj | then you should ask #ubuntu about their policies. Debian doens't use ppa's |
| 21:05.43 | somiaj | it might be different than debian |
| 21:05.52 | posi | Well I'm trying to make a src Dev |
| 21:05.56 | posi | Deb |
| 21:05.57 | *** join/#debian shabius (~shaburov1@broadband-46-188-78-140.2com.net) |
| 21:06.22 | somiaj | sure but source packages not made for Debian may have different policy they have to follow. |
| 21:06.26 | *** join/#debian texla (~ray@h247.203.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 21:06.30 | *** join/#debian jemadux (~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux) |
| 21:06.44 | posi | I think Debian is important |
| 21:06.48 | somiaj | as for debian policy, you may get a better answer on the debian policy needed in your case in #debian-mentors. |
| 21:06.49 | *** join/#debian clopez (~tau@neutrino.es) |
| 21:06.51 | *** join/#debian AnD[a]LeS (~andales@122.52.69.221) |
| 21:06.54 | posi | So not going to give up on Debian packages |
| 21:07.01 | posi | Kk |
| 21:07.03 | *** join/#debian OerHeks (~OerHeks@ubuntu/member/oerheks) |
| 21:07.07 | somiaj | posi: sure, but ubuntu has different policy. So a .deb for ubuntu may not require the same considreations. |
| 21:08.02 | somiaj | posi: #debian-mentors is on irc.oftc.net there is alos #packaging, but thta is more for general questions, not related to policy to get into debian as much. |
| 21:08.30 | posi | Lets only considered Debian for now |
| 21:09.38 | somiaj | posi: my understanding is the source package should not be attempting network access when building. But I think it is okay (not positive on the scope here) to have pre/post install scripts download stuff (there are packages in debian that do this) |
| 21:10.28 | *** join/#debian meauses (~Niels@ip503d5dba.speed.planet.nl) |
| 21:11.58 | jhutchins | posi: I don't think you're working with debian packages anyway, so the standards don't apply. Good practices might, but if you're using a perl package manager anyway, you've already left the system. |
| 21:12.13 | *** part/#debian hotwings (hd@core.apache2.ca) |
| 21:12.26 | jhutchins | posi: The Debian way would be to build a .deb package. |
| 21:13.17 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 21:13.24 | posi | I want to do the Debian way |
| 21:13.43 | posi | But it seems like anything using js is doomed |
| 21:13.56 | posi | I am currently trying to construct a source package |
| 21:14.12 | posi | Amd it won't work because NPM wants to reach out of the network |
| 21:15.17 | *** join/#debian axdoomer_ (8e8935d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.137.53.211) |
| 21:15.49 | *** join/#debian evade (~evade@208.93.94.10) |
| 21:15.51 | *** join/#debian OS-23863 (~OS-23863@dslb-088-069-244-005.088.069.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:16.05 | *** join/#debian OS-24695 (~OS-24695@27.5.69.9) |
| 21:16.59 | *** join/#debian Ignacy (~igi@c1910BF51.dhcp.as2116.net) |
| 21:17.17 | *** join/#debian soee (~soee@user-46-112-203-127.play-internet.pl) |
| 21:17.31 | *** join/#debian thunderrd__ (~thunderrd@61.7.186.3) |
| 21:19.44 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@CPE-144-132-235-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 21:20.21 | *** join/#debian ckuehl (~ckuehl@nitrogen.techxonline.net) |
| 21:21.21 | *** join/#debian cerebro (~cerebro@goo.atnf.csiro.au) |
| 21:22.43 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 21:22.44 | *** join/#debian cerebro (~cerebro@goo.atnf.csiro.au) |
| 21:22.54 | *** join/#debian tlab (~tlab@104.235.20.44) |
| 21:22.58 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 21:23.05 | *** join/#debian iik (~IIK@staticline-31-183-6-84.toya.net.pl) |
| 21:24.21 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@pa49-180-138-35.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:24.22 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 21:25.04 | *** join/#debian vOYtEC (~vOYtEC@2a02:2430:3:2500::be84:d38) |
| 21:25.42 | *** join/#debian philamonster (~philamons@104.244.194.24) |
| 21:25.43 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 21:26.42 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 21:26.57 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@cpc102316-sgyl38-2-0-cust632.18-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 21:27.17 | *** join/#debian gebruiker (~gebruiker@77-172-237-233.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 21:27.40 | samodid | Hi there |
| 21:27.41 | samodid | I'm searching for manual or example howto add package to install iso |
| 21:28.00 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@164.11.60.178.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 21:28.10 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 21:28.13 | *** join/#debian magnulu (~magnulu@46.246.20.3) |
| 21:28.19 | samodid | I want to have iso with all package and install os without internet connection |
| 21:28.40 | samodid | could someone help me ? |
| 21:29.07 | gebruiker | samodid: you want to create a debian installer with all the packages? |
| 21:30.08 | samodid | gebruiker: I want to remaster debian netinstall iso, with my preseed file and additional packages |
| 21:31.19 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 21:31.47 | gebruiker | samodid: have you looked at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD ? |
| 21:32.06 | *** join/#debian kenp (~kenp@unaffiliated/kenan) |
| 21:32.25 | *** join/#debian piggah (~nick@dt0c0n96.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 21:32.34 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFD33C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:34.10 | *** join/#debian mtcj (~AndChat21@2600:1014:b102:b1b1:bc84:e4a7:7350:3db5) |
| 21:34.23 | *** part/#debian mtcj (~AndChat21@2600:1014:b102:b1b1:bc84:e4a7:7350:3db5) |
| 21:34.33 | *** join/#debian fripster (~fripster@dsl-087-195-188-050.solcon.nl) |
| 21:34.38 | samodid | no,I have not |
| 21:34.53 | samodid | going to read, thanks |
| 21:35.15 | fripster | can I please ask a question? |
| 21:35.28 | *** join/#debian mtcj_ (~AndChat21@75-170-240-218.desm.qwest.net) |
| 21:36.09 | gebruiker | fripster: hi, sure |
| 21:36.33 | *** join/#debian Dadou (~Dadou@LFbn-1-4345-61.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:36.45 | *** join/#debian Atm0spher1c (~future@unaffiliated/atm0spher1c) |
| 21:36.55 | fripster | okay... i run debian testing... this week my apt-upgrade / dist-upgrade broke VLC |
| 21:37.05 | fripster | is that a known issue? |
| 21:37.15 | cra1g321 | !testing |
| 21:37.15 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 21:37.16 | fripster | how to find out? |
| 21:37.34 | gebruiker | go to OFTC #debian-next |
| 21:37.40 | fripster | solution was to purge all things related to VLC and reinstall |
| 21:37.48 | gebruiker | and I would recommend you to check the BTS |
| 21:37.50 | fripster | but I find it strange |
| 21:37.55 | *** part/#debian mtcj_ (~AndChat21@75-170-240-218.desm.qwest.net) |
| 21:37.55 | fripster | okay thanks |
| 21:38.12 | gebruiker | fripster: this channel mainly focuses on stable releases |
| 21:38.20 | fripster | okay ... did not know |
| 21:38.23 | *** join/#debian njumdl2014 (~njumdl201@client-104-39-66-98.mobility.psu.edu) |
| 21:38.24 | fripster | have a nice evening |
| 21:38.30 | gebruiker | you too .. best |
| 21:39.02 | *** part/#debian fripster (~fripster@dsl-087-195-188-050.solcon.nl) |
| 21:39.40 | *** join/#debian bgray (~root@192.227.129.227) |
| 21:40.14 | *** join/#debian datasmurf (~datasmurf@unaffiliated/datasmurf) |
| 21:41.29 | *** join/#debian lasdam (lasdam@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-okxmnbygtdflfruc) |
| 21:41.29 | *** join/#debian lasdam (lasdam@unaffiliated/lasdam) |
| 21:41.29 | *** join/#debian lasdam (lasdam@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-okxmnbygtdflfruc) |
| 21:42.44 | *** join/#debian Two-4-Flinching (~Two-4-Fli@168.28.22.84) |
| 21:42.53 | *** join/#debian riex (gaming@unaffiliated/riex) |
| 21:43.58 | jhutchins | Testing is SUPPOSED to do that - it's where things like that are supposed to happen so they don't happen in stable. |
| 21:44.04 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@pa49-180-138-35.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:44.04 | *** join/#debian maziar (~textual@5.117.227.46) |
| 21:44.19 | RebelCoder | hi |
| 21:44.26 | *** join/#debian alowinz (~lnx@47.pool85-61-185.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:44.33 | RebelCoder | =) |
| 21:44.56 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@service-inf-drzs-vpn-109.ethz.ch) |
| 21:46.00 | *** join/#debian idts (~lxuser@unaffiliated/tdis) |
| 21:46.33 | *** join/#debian datasmurf (~datasmurf@unaffiliated/datasmurf) |
| 21:47.03 | *** join/#debian cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@212-178-2-163.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) |
| 21:48.54 | jhutchins | RebelCoder: Did you have a Debian support question? |
| 21:49.07 | RebelCoder | No. Sorry. |
| 21:49.54 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@37.35.64.108) |
| 21:49.54 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@flossk/altin) |
| 21:49.55 | *** join/#debian gl-prout (~gl-prout@197.158.85.149) |
| 21:50.25 | centrx | !ask |
| 21:50.25 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:51.07 | jhutchins | RebelCoder: No need to be sorry, just making sure you weren't waiting for help. |
| 21:51.17 | jhutchins | *me is also looking for something to do. |
| 21:51.28 | jhutchins | Oops. |
| 21:53.21 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 21:53.27 | somiaj | samodid: what package is missing? |
| 21:54.11 | somiaj | samodid: or in general what package do you want? Would having a bigger image (the dvd image) have all the packages you need? |
| 21:56.49 | *** join/#debian MrSmurf (MrSmurf@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-yqtckmexqjbgrpyo) |
| 21:57.07 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@pa49-180-138-35.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:58.54 | roger` | hi, what's the best command to hot-unplug hard drive, hdparm -Y /dev/sdX or echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/device/delete |
| 21:59.52 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@189.1.19.4) |
| 22:00.14 | *** join/#debian _foldLeft (~foldleft@205.153.36.170) |
| 22:00.25 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~jurisl@cpc74579-lewi13-2-0-cust201.2-4.cable.virginm.net) |
| 22:02.54 | *** join/#debian douzer (~douzer@unaffiliated/douzer) |
| 22:04.38 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a95-92-107-215.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 22:07.20 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 22:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1738] by debhelper |
| 22:08.10 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 22:08.57 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 22:09.34 | *** join/#debian t0m0 (~t0m@84.200.14.205) |
| 22:09.48 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 22:10.49 | *** join/#debian Gi0 (~Gi0@unaffiliated/gi0) |
| 22:13.03 | *** join/#debian cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@62.16.29.79) |
| 22:14.21 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@37.35.64.108) |
| 22:14.21 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@flossk/altin) |
| 22:14.45 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 22:15.55 | th0r | roger`, what's wrong with eject? |
| 22:16.00 | *** join/#debian olalonde (uid136@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zrtywrnkzoiualie) |
| 22:16.52 | th0r | roger`, or are you trying for an internal fixed disk? |
| 22:16.52 | *** join/#debian Quatroking (~Quatrokin@50709887.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 22:17.25 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@173-165-36-107-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 22:18.07 | th0r | roger`, either way, unmounting the drive should make it safe to remove it |
| 22:18.13 | *** join/#debian t0m0 (~t0m@84.200.14.205) |
| 22:19.30 | roger` | apparently its better to spin it down before |
| 22:20.01 | roger` | so far nobody avised to use eject |
| 22:20.06 | roger` | im looking it up |
| 22:20.18 | roger` | i want to do it the proper way |
| 22:20.41 | th0r | roger`, it is my understanding the only thing that might be necessary is a 'sync' to flush the buffer before unmounting. |
| 22:21.13 | th0r | eject works for removable media like usb drives. |
| 22:21.19 | roger` | its a SATA disk |
| 22:21.33 | roger` | and there is moving parts inside |
| 22:21.53 | roger` | so i want to be extra careful, its critical offline backup |
| 22:22.05 | roger` | wouldn't be happy if it fails when i need it |
| 22:22.14 | th0r | roger`, unless it is the main os drive, simply sync-ing and then unmounting should be safe |
| 22:22.34 | *** part/#debian blipz (~blipz@46.101.85.139) |
| 22:22.37 | *** join/#debian _sfiguser (~sfigguser@93-35-242-188.ip57.fastwebnet.it) |
| 22:23.33 | *** join/#debian denisk (~denisk@220-244-148-246.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 22:24.04 | roger` | most people said that, but some advice a spin down and waiting 2 minutes before you remove it |
| 22:24.15 | roger` | to be safe |
| 22:24.36 | th0r | roger`, just fyi...if the drive is auto mounted in fstab, and is not in place at boot, the boot process might hang. |
| 22:25.05 | roger` | i experienced that before ^^ |
| 22:25.21 | roger` | but its not in fstab, i use autofs for the backup drives |
| 22:25.26 | th0r | you might wait after unplugging it to give the head time to retract, but spinning down I don't think is a issue |
| 22:26.02 | roger` | i think you cannot be too careful though |
| 22:26.17 | roger` | since im making a script to launch rsync automatically |
| 22:26.34 | roger` | its not a cost to add the spindown after umount |
| 22:27.13 | th0r | roger`, all my data and backup drives that are in fstab have the noauto option. Means after bootup I have to mount each one, but the command is simply |
| 22:27.27 | th0r | mount (mountpoint) |
| 22:27.56 | roger` | i put my backups in drives that i physically remove from the machine when done |
| 22:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1731] by debhelper |
| 22:28.45 | th0r | I do mine over my home network at night. one of the advantages of being retired :) |
| 22:28.50 | roger` | with a 5.25" enclosure made for that purpose |
| 22:29.01 | roger` | id be paranoid |
| 22:29.14 | roger` | imagine someone breaks into your system |
| 22:29.21 | roger` | and mess your disks up |
| 22:29.58 | roger` | oh well i guess im just more paranoid than most ^^ |
| 22:30.14 | *** join/#debian blueness_ (~blueness@gentoo/developer/blueness) |
| 22:30.18 | *** join/#debian saturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:31.03 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@37.35.64.108) |
| 22:31.03 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@flossk/altin) |
| 22:31.52 | th0r | if it was business I would be paranoid also. but all I have now is personal data and software archives |
| 22:32.36 | *** join/#debian Noah0504 (~noah@24-139-61-140.fidnet.com) |
| 22:33.06 | th0r | course, I could always power up the backup server for an hour to do the job, then take it offline again |
| 22:33.21 | roger` | i thought about using a dedicated machine |
| 22:33.30 | roger` | ^^ |
| 22:33.42 | th0r | but there is some advantage to 24/7 access. |
| 22:34.14 | roger` | i do have 24/7 access to my files, but i like to isolate the backups |
| 22:34.19 | th0r | is this for business or personal use? |
| 22:34.43 | roger` | personal but that's knowledge ill be able to use later |
| 22:35.54 | *** join/#debian stooj (~stooj@181.198.151.122.dynamic.dsl.dv.iprimus.net.au) |
| 22:36.37 | th0r | well...I have a paspberry pi with a usb hub for data and another with large usb thumb drives for backup. total investment maybe $200 including the 2 - 2TB spinning drives and 5 thumb drives |
| 22:37.14 | roger` | rpi doesn't have sata though ^^ |
| 22:37.37 | roger` | i have one running but i use it mostly to try things |
| 22:37.44 | th0r | true. what it does have is a $35 price tag :) |
| 22:38.02 | roger` | my next project is to make an ssh only pentest device |
| 22:38.16 | roger` | with battery pack and alfa wifi |
| 22:38.22 | Dracunos | Also there's #raspberrypi |
| 22:38.23 | roger` | with the pi |
| 22:38.29 | th0r | I am running five. A desktop, two file servers, a firewall/gateway, and one for fun |
| 22:38.34 | roger` | yep im on it :p |
| 22:38.38 | roger` | and #raspbian |
| 22:38.52 | th0r | I'm on that one |
| 22:38.53 | roger` | seriously pi :D |
| 22:38.58 | Dracunos | I just have an ssh server running by I don't really have any more use for it |
| 22:39.30 | th0r | we were just talking about backup drives and the discussion went to how we handle it all |
| 22:39.39 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@gateway/tor-sasl/pos) |
| 22:40.54 | th0r | roger`, I used to work in a related field and ran debian for years, but these days I rarely even power it up. |
| 22:41.21 | th0r | My network now is five pi's and four android tablets. |
| 22:41.37 | roger` | that's original |
| 22:42.07 | th0r | I am presently using a 10"tab to vnc into my experimental pi...which has been running hexchat for two days |
| 22:42.20 | roger` | irssi > all ^^ |
| 22:43.04 | th0r | never was tempted by irssi, but quite happy at the cli |
| 22:43.22 | roger` | i need more power than a pi for my nas though |
| 22:44.01 | roger` | i often capture HDTV, download torrents at 100mbps, stream movies i downloaded |
| 22:44.09 | roger` | sometimes all at the same time |
| 22:44.24 | th0r | I am using a pi3 for my media. it is fine for streaming video. although I admit there is just me, a one person load |
| 22:44.26 | *** join/#debian dqsii (~dqsii@082.203-93-216-nokia-dsl.dynamic.surewest.net) |
| 22:44.31 | roger` | rpi cound't even handle the 100mbps line |
| 22:44.58 | roger` | all i can say is i make good use the the gigabit lan |
| 22:45.06 | roger` | and 100mbps internet |
| 22:45.10 | th0r | probably true. I use an rv park wifi capped at 2Mb. |
| 22:45.18 | missmbob | !ot |
| 22:45.18 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 22:45.35 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 22:45.39 | roger` | oh well, anyway i have to cook curry |
| 22:46.22 | th0r | roger`, good luck with the backup drives. unmounting should be as complex as you need |
| 22:46.30 | roger` | thanks |
| 22:48.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1721] by debhelper |
| 22:49.46 | *** join/#debian ffatman (~ffamousff@2a01:e35:8ad7:6b60:add4:4d49:f03:d72d) |
| 22:50.05 | *** join/#debian cubby (~Slumlord@50-82-101-22.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:51.29 | *** join/#debian _ebola_ (~irc@unaffiliated/-ebola-/x-9337621) |
| 22:52.33 | *** join/#debian Wizek_ (~Wizek@catv-89-132-132-110.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 22:52.45 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@31.221.63.146) |
| 22:54.24 | *** join/#debian nullbyte_ (~ghost@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 22:54.45 | *** join/#debian Starky (~Starky@unaffiliated/starky) |
| 22:55.28 | *** join/#debian cyan___ (~cyan@217.170.162.68) |
| 22:57.44 | *** part/#debian th0r (~thor@tx-184-7-56-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 22:57.44 | *** join/#debian sandeepkr__ (~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5) |
| 22:57.56 | *** join/#debian karmelle (~karmelle@185.108.128.11) |
| 22:58.13 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@tx-184-7-56-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 22:58.43 | *** join/#debian Starky (~Starky@unaffiliated/starky) |
| 22:58.49 | *** join/#debian dqsii (~dqsii@082.203-93-216-nokia-dsl.dynamic.surewest.net) |
| 23:00.16 | *** join/#debian Rackham (~Rackham@199-7-156-140.eng.wind.ca) |
| 23:01.01 | *** join/#debian _foldLeft (~foldleft@205.153.36.170) |
| 23:02.15 | *** join/#debian hspcd_ (~hspcd@cpe-173-95-187-19.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:03.15 | *** join/#debian ssaturos (~saturos@host86-184-89-46.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:05.58 | *** join/#debian sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@catv-89-132-97-31.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 23:07.08 | *** join/#debian helpwithsqueeze (~Ivan@bzq-79-177-119-101.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 23:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1715] by debhelper |
| 23:10.17 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@72.168.161.157) |
| 23:11.26 | *** join/#debian meauses (~Niels@ip503d5dba.speed.planet.nl) |
| 23:12.57 | *** join/#debian chachasmooth (~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth) |
| 23:14.08 | *** join/#debian otirc (~fish@cpc2-burn7-2-0-cust351.10-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:16.25 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@reriding.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 23:16.37 | *** join/#debian musicnate (~musicnate@S010630b5c2fb31cf.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 23:17.24 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@174.90.222.178) |
| 23:17.25 | *** join/#debian PadawanLearner (~JC@a213-22-213-124.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 23:17.48 | *** join/#debian jeep (~jeep@174.90.222.178) |
| 23:18.02 | *** join/#debian gonz0 (~gonz0@r89-pw-tamanduaete.ibys.com.br) |
| 23:18.41 | *** join/#debian Scourje (uid63311@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aacwuymqkfxbfmsj) |
| 23:21.47 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@gateway/tor-sasl/pos) |
| 23:22.42 | *** part/#debian karmelle (~karmelle@185.108.128.11) |
| 23:25.02 | *** join/#debian kbdkode (~kbdkode@unaffiliated/kbdkode) |
| 23:26.30 | *** join/#debian shootbird (~quassel@205.185.122.214) |
| 23:27.50 | *** join/#debian Guest12919 (~gianni@host27-214-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1704] by debhelper |
| 23:30.26 | *** join/#debian pitelpan (~panagioti@79.103.194.78.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:30.26 | *** join/#debian pitelpan (~panagioti@unaffiliated/pitelpan) |
| 23:30.36 | *** part/#debian Guest12919 (~gianni@host27-214-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:30.42 | *** join/#debian gebruiker (~gebruiker@77-172-237-233.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 23:31.03 | gebruiker | Guys, what is the command again to list all packages that are not installed from offical repository? |
| 23:31.42 | *** join/#debian spacebug- (~spacebug@78-67-182-219-no258.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 23:32.46 | Atm0spher1c | why do you want to do that?? |
| 23:33.09 | bazhang | did you mean dpkg -l |
| 23:33.45 | *** join/#debian jonasbits (~quassel@213-21-80-56.customer.t3.se) |
| 23:33.47 | gebruiker | bazhang: yeah similar but more elegantly and less time consuming |
| 23:34.18 | bazhang | that takes about two seconds |
| 23:34.34 | Atm0spher1c | dpkg -l doesnt list not installed packages tho |
| 23:34.34 | dpkg | No packages found matching doesnt list not installed packages tho |
| 23:34.41 | gebruiker | i know there is an aptitude reg exp somewhere that did this and I tried with apt-show-versions but to no avail |
| 23:34.47 | Atm0spher1c | apt-cache search |
| 23:35.21 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@reriding.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 23:35.46 | TomTomTo1 | aptitude search "?narrow(?installed, ?not(?archive(stable)))" |
| 23:35.46 | *** join/#debian RickXy (~zncadmin@27.7.126.56) |
| 23:35.50 | *** join/#debian Jan\ (kvirc@198.13.255.87) |
| 23:35.59 | *** join/#debian booboy (~booboy@159.203.86.114) |
| 23:36.07 | TomTomTo1 | well... maybe not ?archive, lemme see. |
| 23:36.14 | *** join/#debian LmZ (~alex@2001:7e8:d617:c01:a8f0:784a:c0f3:7acd) |
| 23:36.49 | gebruiker | TomTomTo1: thanks! |
| 23:37.08 | TomTomTo1 | ?origin(Debian) would probably be a better fit. |
| 23:40.17 | *** join/#debian Rackham (~Rackham@199-7-156-134.eng.wind.ca) |
| 23:42.03 | *** join/#debian grimsley (~grimsley@2602:306:319e:c390:7554:cbc9:c05:dc57) |
| 23:43.20 | *** join/#debian trumee (~trumee@c-73-155-87-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:44.07 | *** join/#debian ptkrm (~ptkrm@209.95.50.27) |
| 23:44.33 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@unaffiliated/pos) |
| 23:44.33 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@gateway/tor-sasl/pos) |
| 23:45.11 | *** join/#debian ryerye (~ryerye@c-73-48-155-53.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.39 | *** join/#debian moss (~moss@2607:5300:60:1bdf::1) |
| 23:47.39 | *** join/#debian moss (~moss@fsf/member/moss) |
| 23:48.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1698] by debhelper |
| 23:49.27 | *** join/#debian Cloudish (~Cloudish@unaffiliated/cloudish) |
| 23:50.17 | *** join/#debian mekeor (~user@2001:a61:2261:6f01:c6d9:87ff:fe26:2947) |
| 23:50.59 | *** join/#debian PosterdatiMobile (~posterdat@host123-7-dynamic.250-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:51.00 | *** join/#debian _PosterdatiMobil (~posterdat@host123-7-dynamic.250-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:51.13 | *** join/#debian brett_ (~brett@67.139.42.219) |
| 23:51.49 | *** join/#debian jarif (~jarif@dsl-espbrasgw1-50dfb9-80.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:52.05 | *** join/#debian Lostfile (~kvirc@pool-96-237-141-18.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:53.29 | *** join/#debian nighty (~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp) |
| 23:54.46 | *** join/#debian andril (~andril@c-66-229-28-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:54.47 | *** join/#debian aaro (~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147) |
| 23:56.11 | *** join/#debian steelsw0rd (~steelsw0r@37.48.65.170) |
| 23:56.39 | *** join/#debian _tremo (~tremo@wurzeldiener.jfreitag.de) |
| 23:58.48 | *** join/#debian f31n (~f31n@62.178.19.161) |
| 23:59.06 | f31n | hi, i've got an issue with psad, auto_dl / whitelisting istn't working? |
| 23:59.58 | f31n | it keeps blocking my ip even though its inside of the auto_dl? |