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| 00:34.32 | converge | will it show all incoming/outcoming requests from/to website.com ? tcpflow -p -c -i eth0 host website.com -d 10 |
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| 00:36.25 | bazhang | why not try #netfilter converge |
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| 00:36.40 | converge | ok, thanks |
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| 00:38.25 | random_numbers | Hey, I'm trying to set zrtp in linphone (jessie package) and the setting appears to be msising. |
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| 00:49.45 | random_numbers | So, I found it's because of a particular compile flag with upstream patches. |
| 00:50.04 | random_numbers | Is there any VoIP package that's not crippled into uselessness that's in the repos, aside from Mumble? |
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| 00:52.30 | bazhang | ,v line |
| 00:52.31 | judd | No package named 'line' was found in amd64. |
| 00:52.53 | bazhang | there might be a build of line somewhere |
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| 00:56.18 | bazhang | there is a 'line' for debian on github |
| 00:56.44 | bazhang | it's the best voip out there |
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| 00:57.25 | random_numbers | So nothing in the repos? |
| 00:57.36 | random_numbers | Because otherwise I might as well bother building jitsi. |
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| 00:57.51 | mutante | Is there a package for the creation of podcasts? I see quite a few client programs to listen to them, but it's surprisingly not obvious what to use to create one from a Debian server, command line. |
| 00:58.23 | mutante | wants to create the RSS feed so people can actually subscribe and that |
| 00:58.43 | random_numbers | Oh. That's a tad different. |
| 00:58.52 | preaction | look at one of the static site generators perhaps |
| 00:59.02 | random_numbers | Probably the most efficient answer. |
| 00:59.18 | random_numbers | You'd pretty much just need a web-server, rss and file structure. |
| 00:59.31 | preaction | i imagine one of them has a theme for all the itunes-related rss/atom metadata |
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| 01:00.15 | mutante | right, thank you. i'll look up the right format of the RSS, guess i can just write a script myself |
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| 01:01.17 | mutante | dislikes that it's so iTunes-centric |
| 01:03.23 | random_numbers | Heh. You could always use atom? |
| 01:03.41 | random_numbers | I think that's what it was anyway. |
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| 01:04.14 | mutante | yea, but in the XML i see tags like <itunes:owner> and all that |
| 01:04.27 | mutante | well, fair enough though, shouldnt be that hard to copy that |
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| 01:31.37 | r4co0n | Hello. I am currently on a business trip in China and thought this could be the first time I could find Tor really useful. However, /var/log/tor/log is stuck at "Connecting to directory server" for the last 30min. Can I run such a directory server on another host of mine to which I can connect just fine? All my mentioned machines are running Debian... |
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| 01:32.15 | Anselmo | are you connecting over a bridge? |
| 01:32.54 | r4co0n | Just plain installed tor as it comes, should've prepared better, I suppose. |
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| 01:33.23 | r4co0n | Should I try to configure my server as a bridge? |
| 01:34.10 | Anselmo | wait. . .so you're connecting to your own tor node? |
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| 01:34.36 | r4co0n | No, but I have a machine in Germany that I can SSH into and set it up as a Tor bridge. |
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| 01:35.23 | Anselmo | so are you trying to connect to a tor node, or to your machine in germany? |
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| 01:36.04 | r4co0n | I am trying to connect to the tor network in order to be able to connect to some services I need. |
| 01:36.08 | AvatarA | couldn't you just get away with a ssh tunnel? |
| 01:36.13 | AvatarA | why tor? |
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| 01:37.01 | r4co0n | AvatarA, I would need to setup some proxying too, wouldn't I? |
| 01:37.08 | AvatarA | ssh -D |
| 01:37.44 | AvatarA | then you setup your browser or whatever to use local socks proxy |
| 01:37.46 | Anselmo | unless those are tor services you need. . .ssh seems like it should be fine |
| 01:39.10 | random_numbers | Unless you're doing stuff the regime doesn't like there seems to be little reason not to just use your ssh tunnel. |
| 01:40.10 | r4co0n | random_numbers, the only thing I can think about they wouldn't endorse is browsing 4chan, but my girlfriend does neither. |
| 01:40.33 | AvatarA | they can't see what's going on between you and your ssh server |
| 01:40.36 | r4co0n | I just tried the ssh -D , it is working flawlessly |
| 01:41.09 | Anselmo | yay! |
| 01:41.12 | random_numbers | The way they see it is still you connecting for hours at a time to the same ssh server. Even if you were to pipe Tor through that. |
| 01:41.14 | r4co0n | I should also be able to do this on an android phone, shouldn't I? |
| 01:41.39 | Anselmo | yes, you can |
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| 01:42.37 | r4co0n | random_numbers, yeah, I am aware of that, thank you. I just thought Tor would be install-and-forget method, I am a lazy person. But your approach suits my laziness even better :) |
| 01:43.33 | AvatarA | they're pretty good at spotting tor, even bridges, plus tor is too slow and doesn't offer you anything you need for your specific case |
| 01:43.33 | random_numbers | Heh. They probably spend some effort getting bridge addresses to block easy Tor access. |
| 01:44.04 | r4co0n | the socks-proxy i am using right now is a built-in into openssh-client? |
| 01:44.30 | random_numbers | Oh hey, lights flickering again. I like this place. |
| 01:45.50 | AvatarA | you just need to keep secrets between you and your ssh server, from that point on it doesn't matter |
| 01:46.21 | AvatarA | if you wanted that not even your ssh server knows what you're doing, and the sites you're visiting not knowing who is visiting, that's when you start needing tor |
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| 01:48.03 | r4co0n | I am not really concerned about who is knowing what, I just want my connections to go through, and that was easily achieved using ssh socks proxy. |
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| 01:51.31 | r4co0n | thanks again, bye |
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| 02:09.10 | SamSagaZ_ | hey guys, i was using freebsd as SO for my two servers, now want to test some linux distro as server and was thinking about use Debian. Is ok to install Jessie? |
| 02:10.00 | mutante | SamSagaZ_: yes |
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| 02:10.36 | SamSagaZ_ | ok, will email the service provider that install Debian :) |
| 02:11.38 | random_numbers | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:12.13 | SamSagaZ_ | random_numbers, ok |
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| 02:16.57 | somiaj | SamSagaZ_: next year sometime stretch will release and jessie will become old stable. It will get a year of support and then transition to lts which only has support for server software. |
| 02:17.10 | random_numbers | And security. |
| 02:17.26 | somiaj | security is what I mean by support. |
| 02:17.33 | random_numbers | Ah, apologies. |
| 02:18.02 | somiaj | and lts support is like another 3 years, so that is about 4 years or more for jessie |
| 02:18.14 | SamSagaZ_ | more than enough |
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| 02:18.42 | random_numbers | Hm. Should I attempt an upgrade or reinstall? |
| 02:19.10 | SamSagaZ_ | someone know some web panel to manage domains and users of the server that let use apache+php using php-fpm? i was using mod_php in my freebsd servers and tested in my local server using php-fpm, and found that php-fpm was 7x times faster in some cases! |
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| 02:20.28 | somiaj | !free whcp |
| 02:20.28 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
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| 02:25.31 | gasull | How can I troubleshoot my microphone? arecord throws a segmentation fault: http://pastebin.com/VCPCr7vZ |
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| 02:28.24 | AvatarA | try recording in some other format |
| 02:28.43 | AvatarA | I mean like 32 bit and 44100 |
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| 02:33.42 | SamSagaZ_ | about panels, looks like ispconfig is the most used, right? at least i see that are the most updated |
| 02:34.55 | gasull | AvatarA: how? |
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| 02:37.31 | AvatarA | see man arecord, I don't know, didn't use it |
| 02:37.37 | AvatarA | seems -f and -r would do the trick |
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| 02:39.50 | random_numbers | Huh. There's a software-category function to that bot. Nice. |
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| 03:46.15 | Agafnd | so I seem to be suffering from this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685040 |
| 03:46.16 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/685040 in gnu-smalltalk-el (closed): «gnu-smalltalk-el: emacs24 no inhibit-first-line-modes-regexps»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-08-16; last modified: 2015-10-01. |
| 03:46.42 | Agafnd | I'm assuming it's a bad idea to get smalltalk 3.2.5 from unstable? |
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| 03:48.39 | somiaj | Agafnd: you are running jessie or stretch? |
| 03:48.46 | Agafnd | jessie |
| 03:49.02 | somiaj | ,v gnu-smalltalk-el |
| 03:49.03 | judd | Package: gnu-smalltalk-el on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2.4-2; jessie: 3.2.4-2.1; sid: 3.2.5-1 |
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| 03:49.13 | somiaj | Agafnd: you could try to backport it from sid. |
| 03:49.23 | somiaj | ,checkbackport gnu-smalltalk-el |
| 03:49.26 | judd | Backporting package gnu-smalltalk-el in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
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| 03:49.53 | somiaj | !tell Agafnd about ssb |
| 03:50.31 | Agafnd | somiaj: thanks |
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| 04:01.38 | Agafnd | somiaj: so, how do I "install the resultant debs"? |
| 04:01.56 | Agafnd | where are they? |
| 04:02.32 | rumflump | my partner was using windows 10 because it's "better for gaming", but today asked me to install linux, because windows kept interrupting the game with alerts and randomly lagging. would debian be a good distro for gaming due to its stability, or do video game players tend to want "bleeding edge" distros? |
| 04:02.34 | somiaj | Agafnd: they should be one level up from the source dir |
| 04:04.36 | somiaj | rumflump: depends on the games wanted to play. Most from steam can run in debian, and the steam will keep itself up to date in the users $HOME as they come available. wine works, but for new or changing games one sometimes needs a newer version of wine. Though debian does provide these in jessie-backports. |
| 04:05.14 | Agafnd | somiaj: cd .., ls isn't finding me anything |
| 04:05.44 | somiaj | Agafnd: actually they might just be in the directory you were in. |
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| 04:06.13 | Agafnd | they don't seem to be there either |
| 04:06.32 | somiaj | Agafnd: did you get any errors when you tried to comiple the package. |
| 04:06.35 | rumflump | I currently only use debian as a media server, and mint for GIMP and web browsing, so I'm less certain about video games. I don't think we have the technical expertise between us, needed to deal with wine. I think steam is the primary target, though I'll try to find FOSS games too |
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| 04:07.23 | Agafnd | somiaj: "Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: libncurses-dev"? |
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| 04:07.43 | somiaj | Agafnd: you got this error when running apt-get build-dep packagename? |
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| 04:08.34 | Agafnd | somiaj: well, I used aptitude, but yes |
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| 04:11.12 | somiaj | ,v libncurses5-dev |
| 04:11.13 | judd | Package: libncurses5-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.9-10; jessie: 5.9+20140913-1+b1; sid: 6.0+20160917-1; stretch: 6.0+20160917-1 |
| 04:11.43 | somiaj | does it say what version is needed? |
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| 04:13.23 | Agafnd | somiaj: I don't think so. |
| 04:14.35 | somiaj | I'm unsure why the dependency doesn't have a 5 in it. Not all packages backort in a straight forward fashion. |
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| 04:29.37 | Agafnd | somiaj: so, just for kicks, I tried apt-get build-dep gnu-smalltalk |
| 04:29.52 | Agafnd | it installed libncurses5-dev |
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| 04:31.59 | Agafnd | but didn't seem to do much else |
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| 04:35.46 | Agafnd | wait, I never ran apt-get -b source gnu-smalltalk |
| 04:36.19 | Agafnd | that sure is doing a lot! |
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| 04:38.51 | somiaj | Agafnd: gnu-smalltalk is most likely the source package name. I thought it translated binaries to their source package but maybe it didn't translate that one lib |
| 04:39.21 | Agafnd | I have a bunch of .debs now |
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| 04:39.53 | Agafnd | what do I do with them? |
| 04:40.20 | somiaj | install the ones you need for the software. It might not be all of them. I don't know the software you are using so little advise from me |
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| 04:43.19 | Agafnd | yay emacs now highlights smalltalk! :D |
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| 06:35.27 | digrouz | Hello, I've a zfs issue with grub version of jessie, seems like missing somes patches to detect zpools with some features enabled, (https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2016/09/msg00091.html) How can I get an updated version of grub including thoses patches ? |
| 06:36.20 | morf | digrouz: what version you need? |
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| 06:37.09 | digrouz | morf: can be the same, just need thoses patches included |
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| 06:40.41 | digrouz | morf: originally, I was using zfsonlinux grub2-common as explained on their wiki. But now, they don't provide zfs packages for debian anymore as they were included in the debian-backports (if i'm correct?). The issue is that the grub2-common (or another grub package) does not include the patches required to detect my zpool |
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| 07:19.31 | pennTeller | Hi guys, I recently tried to create a Debian live cd for the first time with what I found here https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ but I can't make it boot |
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| 07:20.31 | pennTeller | I did the same procedure with an ubuntu iso and it worked.. I am new to the real Debian so any tips on how to successfully create a live cd are much appreciated |
| 07:21.24 | TomTomTo1 | pennTeller: how did you create it? also note that jessie live images don't support uefi. |
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| 07:22.20 | pennTeller | TomTomTo1, I created it by using the "burn iso" option in the Brasero cd burning software |
| 07:23.05 | pennTeller | TomTomTo1, I think the UEFI thing makes sense this is a gaming computer with Asus mobo |
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| 07:23.26 | TomTomTo1 | pennTeller: using tools other than cp/dd can break thing. try using cp <iso> /dev/sdx where sdx is the device you want to copy it to. |
| 07:23.36 | eumel | can you check the contents of your dvd? maybe brasero burned the image on the disk instead of making a copy |
| 07:23.38 | TomTomTo1 | s/thing/things/ |
| 07:24.16 | TomTomTo1 | pennTeller: then try setting boot to legacy in your boot menu. |
| 07:24.30 | pennTeller | TomTomTo1, thanks I will give it a shot with cp and report |
| 07:24.46 | TomTomTo1 | good luck |
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| 07:25.42 | pennTeller | eumel, something is seriously wrong with the dvd because I can't even view its contents |
| 07:25.43 | eumel | i'd recommend using a usb-key if you're laptop supports booting from it, try dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/path/to/device instead, should work just fine |
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| 07:27.42 | pennTeller | eumel, thanks and yes I agree usb is the way to go but I just enjoy having cd´s with different OS´s for old times sake |
| 07:28.08 | pennTeller | eumel, I will give it my best to make it work |
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| 07:30.03 | TomTomTo1 | oh, brasero is a cd burning tool. well, cp/dd will not help you much with that. |
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| 07:31.06 | eumel | that's true |
| 07:31.12 | pennTeller | TomTomTo1, lol yes it also clicked in my head after I started thinking about it |
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| 08:27.14 | bolt | Any convenient solutions for running tail on a binary file? I have an application that writes its (huge) logs already compressed as a .gz, and I want to run the equivalent tail -F and grep on this file. I attempted to use "tail -F -c +0", also with -z to trigger on \0 instead of newlines, but piping this to zgrep I get no output. Removing -F gives me output, but of course doesn't follow :/ |
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| 08:39.05 | evilman_work | bolt: noway. |
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| 08:43.41 | Iridos | bolt, uh, buffering |
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| 08:45.14 | jelly | bolt: write your own? Figuring out when there's a whole new block to deflate is left as an exercise for the reader |
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| 08:45.23 | jelly | inflate* |
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| 08:46.02 | Iridos | but⦠where is the table stored that has the decompression rules |
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| 08:48.02 | greenit | hi, i'd like to use a normal Debian on my raspberry pi 3 rev B. is this (easily) possible? Is it possible to use Raspbian and then switch to the official Debian branches? Or should I use Raspbian instead? |
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| 08:49.11 | bolt | Iridos: it's flushed at regular intervals. buffering shouldn't be an issue, but it will be stuttery, i'm aware of that |
| 08:49.31 | bolt | Iridos: and it would have to start at the beginning of the file. also acceptable. |
| 08:50.16 | Iridos | have you tried reading the whole file with -n999999 or somesuch? |
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| 08:51.11 | bolt | Iridos: my example uses -c +0 |
| 08:51.34 | Iridos | oh, right, I read that as -c 0 |
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| 08:54.58 | bolt | to add to that, tail does actually seem to work when the file is large enough. guessing there ends up being a random newline character in the compressed data somewhere |
| 08:55.53 | aricz | Is there a package that installs the kernel source to /usr/src/ ? |
| 08:56.33 | aricz | I'm pretty sure I did this ~1 year ago, but I can't find it anymore.. false memories? :\ |
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| 08:58.20 | Iridos | linux-source? |
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| 09:17.55 | Iridos | greenit, last time I heard, a lot of people use stock debian⦠and maybe the raspian kernel ⦠maybe try asking in #raspian? |
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| 09:20.16 | eumel | #raspbian is the place to go |
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| 09:25.13 | Iridos | oops, yeah, forgot a b there |
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| 09:33.13 | greenit | thanks for the info :) |
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| 09:42.54 | avian | recently I'm seeing websites in Firefox (and Chrome) that have all their text missing. |
| 09:43.25 | avian | it seems to be Debian specific, because the same website looks fine on Ubuntu with the same Firefox version. |
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| 09:44.16 | greenit | do you have an example image? |
| 09:44.34 | avian | it seems to be an issue with fonts loaded from Google |
| 09:44.37 | avian | here's a simple test case |
| 09:44.41 | avian | https://www.tablix.org/~avian/stuff/fira.html |
| 09:45.01 | avian | on my Debian system, the first line that uses "Fira Sans" doesn't display |
| 09:45.41 | bolt | works for me (tm) |
| 09:45.56 | bolt | (firefox, debian) |
| 09:46.05 | avian | bolt, which Debian release? |
| 09:46.11 | bolt | jessie |
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| 09:46.50 | avian | bolt, just to be sure. You see a line saying "Hello, World! (Fira Sans Google)"? |
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| 09:47.31 | bolt | avian: oh. heh. no. just the fira sans line. |
| 09:48.10 | avian | my question is, how to find out where to report this bug? |
| 09:48.28 | avian | since it's the same in Chrome, I'm guessing it's some font rendering lib |
| 09:49.11 | bolt | avian: https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tablix.org%2F~avian%2Fstuff%2Ffira.html |
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| 09:49.52 | bolt | avian: should probably make sure it validates first |
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| 09:50.33 | avian | bolt, I fixed the validation errors. |
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| 09:51.33 | bolt | avian: hm. still broken. interesting. |
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| 09:57.05 | netnetnert | Hey guys, running sshd in debug mode gives me a Permission Denied error (Could not open authorized_keys) file. |
| 09:57.14 | netnetnert | however, when I log in as this user with password authentication, I can cd to all the way down into .ssh |
| 09:57.21 | netnetnert | and I can cat authorized_keys |
| 09:57.27 | netnetnert | wouldn't this indicate that the permissions aren't too restrictive? |
| 09:57.33 | eumel | try ssh -v and give us some more input |
| 09:58.46 | petn-randall | â http://paste.debian.net, not into the channel. |
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| 09:59.11 | netnetnert | eumel, http://pastebin.com/L5UTZuPv |
| 09:59.26 | netnetnert | eumel, and sshd running in debug gives me the permission denied error |
| 09:59.59 | netnetnert | enumel, so public key is failing because the sshd doesn't have permission to read ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 10:00.15 | petn-randall | netnetnert: Can you give us the *complete* output? You can anonymize the hostname if you want. |
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| 10:00.43 | eumel | what permissions are set on the directory / authorized_keys file on the remote site? |
| 10:01.15 | netnetnert | eumel, -rw-------. |
| 10:01.37 | eumel | never seen this make a difference in debian but several times on red-hat systems, ~/.ssh should have 700, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys 600 |
| 10:02.33 | netnetnert | eumel, sorry, misread your message. ~/.ssh has permissions drwx------. |
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| 10:02.51 | netnetnert | authorized_keys has -rw-------. |
| 10:03.00 | eumel | okay |
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| 10:05.44 | avian | bolt, I'm checking now with a clean Jessie install in a VM and fonts work OK. |
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| 10:05.50 | netnetnert | eumel, http://pastebin.com/GZ8M3HjQ |
| 10:05.58 | netnetnert | output from sshd run with -d |
| 10:06.03 | greenit | is there any reason why krita is in debian jessie and wheezy, but not in testing and unstable? |
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| 10:11.15 | avian | bolt, it gets weirder. "Fira sans" displays fine when using XFCE, but not when using GNOME |
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| 10:24.00 | bolt | avian: i run awesomevm |
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| 11:07.58 | neosie | hey. network is working well but apt is not able to connect and update |
| 11:08.14 | neosie | i can ping the update server but i'm able to telnet it |
| 11:08.19 | neosie | or ftp it |
| 11:08.51 | neosie | example: ftp ftp.ch.debian.org stuck forever |
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| 11:15.34 | neosie | i'm not able to open new socks with remote servers |
| 11:15.48 | neosie | example "w3m google.com" unable to open socket |
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| 11:17.18 | themill | So what do you mean by "network is working well" then? |
| 11:17.31 | neosie | i can ping xD |
| 11:17.45 | neosie | i can open sockets to my router too... but not wan |
| 11:17.49 | greenit | ip or full name, like "www.google.at"? |
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| 11:17.54 | neosie | same resault |
| 11:17.59 | neosie | i can nslookup fine |
| 11:18.05 | neosie | i can ping fine. i can't open sockets |
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| 11:22.41 | neosie | i thought about a router fault but i'm able to reach net through other machines |
| 11:23.31 | themill | firewall? proxy server? |
| 11:23.39 | neosie | nope |
| 11:23.51 | neosie | firewall is empty |
| 11:24.03 | neosie | no proxy since i even tired telnet |
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| 11:27.10 | eumel | what does nc -zv ftp.ch.debian.org 21 return? |
| 11:27.48 | eumel | is dns-resolution working? you could try to use the ip-address |
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| 11:28.18 | themill | also, try http ports and protocol, not ftp |
| 11:28.28 | neosie | i did |
| 11:28.42 | neosie | i can solve dns yes |
| 11:28.47 | neosie | i can ping things. i just can't open sockets |
| 11:28.47 | hramrach | does tcpdump show packets? |
| 11:29.01 | hramrach | if you can access the router does it show them at router? |
| 11:29.18 | neosie | probably not if the socket doesn't open? |
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| 11:29.40 | neosie | i can chat fine with router. even ssh into it |
| 11:29.45 | neosie | the issue is vs wan |
| 11:30.00 | hramrach | what are the firewall rules on router? |
| 11:30.08 | neosie | empty |
| 11:30.12 | neosie | i mean... default? |
| 11:30.19 | neosie | i have other machines working |
| 11:30.36 | hramrach | did you dump the iptables? |
| 11:30.39 | themill | Can you pastebin "ip r" and "ip a" on that machine? |
| 11:30.43 | neosie | yep |
| 11:30.48 | neosie | sure |
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| 11:32.13 | hramrach | I am experiancing weird issue with building kernels |
| 11:32.18 | neosie | http://paste.debian.net/883698/ |
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| 11:32.42 | hramrach | when I build a x86_64 kernel on my Debian machine it does not boot. It shows no messages, just sits there |
| 11:32.57 | hramrach | when I upload sources to build service I get working kernel |
| 11:33.25 | hramrach | how do you debug kernel not doing anything whatsoever? |
| 11:34.29 | eumel | you've set the networks broadcast address as you're ip-address for eth0 |
| 11:34.32 | eumel | am i right? |
| 11:34.44 | eumel | ah sry it's 225 |
| 11:34.52 | neosie | nope. it's by dhcp tha tnumber |
| 11:35.07 | eumel | my fault, saw 255 instead of 225 |
| 11:35.24 | eumel | output seems to be valid |
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| 11:36.43 | hramrach | with tcpdump you should be able to see where the packets get lost |
| 11:37.17 | hramrach | do they come to the router? go out of router? replies go to router? go out of router? get to your box? |
| 11:38.51 | neosie | i discovered udp is working |
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| 11:39.57 | eumel | have you tried to analyze a communication approach with tcpdump yet? |
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| 11:41.28 | neosie | it's a bit noise |
| 11:41.44 | hramrach | you can dump only the host you are talking to |
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| 11:42.35 | eumel | you can filter the noise, try tcpdump -i eth0 'tcp port 80' for example |
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| 11:47.04 | neosie | gonna try |
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| 11:47.49 | juslintek | Hi, how to allow regular user to write on apache virtualhost DocumentRoot with 750 permissions on dirs and 640 on files, while retaining user and usergroup of the original user, not changing them to www-data and so on. |
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| 11:52.20 | eumel | apache2 usually runs as www-data, so you have to grant access to folders and files for that user |
| 11:53.05 | eumel | if you want a regular user to write in the same directories add it to www-data group or set permissions for files and folders to www-data:some other group |
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| 11:53.57 | eumel | neosie, tcpdump -i eth0 'tcp port 80 and host ftp.ch.debian.org' should fit even better for you |
| 11:54.15 | neosie | i saw the traffic |
| 11:54.23 | neosie | i get my host creating new things to router |
| 11:54.28 | neosie | but no packets back from my router |
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| 11:55.55 | eumel | -A makes tcpdump output everything in ASCII, that could help identifying traffic |
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| 11:57.17 | neosie | there is no traffic back |
| 11:57.21 | neosie | nothing to explore really |
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| 11:59.32 | neosie | eumel: http://paste.debian.net/883707/ |
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| 12:08.18 | juslintek | <eumel>, isn't there any other solution, for example directadmin somewhow does it so user:user can read and write in its /home/user/domain/domain.tld/public_html |
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| 12:09.23 | juslintek | because if I change files to www-data user I can no longer save then after editing without sudo. |
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| 12:12.31 | marsupapu | I have trouble with Exaile: trying to play mp3:s result to no suitable plugins -error, eventhough I have gstreamer1,0-plugins-good and gstreamer0,10-plugins-good installed. |
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| 12:14.35 | teraflops | marsupapu: iirc you need ugly too |
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| 12:19.46 | marsupapu | Apparently that was the only thing I was missing. I read old quide earlier, and had the package name wrong, but now it is playing. Thanks! |
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| 12:20.25 | eumel | juslintek, can you be more concrete? can't really follow you. you want to share some users home directory in a virtual host? |
| 12:20.44 | teraflops | marsupapu: np |
| 12:21.30 | marsupapu | Apparently special hotkeys doesn't work in exaile, eventhough they work in different players. |
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| 12:21.36 | juslintek | emuel, no I don't want to be shared, I want it only be accessible by that user and I want that user to perform php write, execute requests via that user, not www-data. |
| 12:23.09 | eumel | okay, if you want to write to a directory somewhere on you're filesystem from a php script running in apache you'll need to have either the user www-data or the group www-data granted for writing to that directory |
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| 12:24.17 | teraflops | marsupapu: idk about that player, maybe they implement they own keybinding |
| 12:24.22 | eumel | if i want www-data to write to heini's home directory i'd chmod it to 750 and chown it to heini:www-data |
| 12:24.34 | eumel | or something in that direction |
| 12:24.54 | teraflops | their* |
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| 12:25.39 | juslintek | <eumel>, so how do I grant www-data group or user writing to directory? By chown? |
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| 12:27.16 | eumel | you'll have to use chown heini:www-data directory |
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| 12:28.03 | eumel | and then chmod 770 directory |
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| 12:28.21 | eumel | for heini to be able to write to it, as well as any user in www-data and noone else |
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| 12:42.27 | microbit | hello |
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| 12:44.12 | microbit | on my renamed Firefox browser (Iceweasel) ... i get a message that i have to install a new flash-version ... is there actually a new flash-version for debians firefox ? |
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| 12:45.42 | avian | bolt, I summarized my findings here: bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=841293 |
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| 12:47.49 | avian | not sure what good it will do since I see the "general" pseudopackage is going away. |
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| 12:54.15 | Iridos | microbit, /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 12:57.59 | microbit | Iridos : sweet, thx ! you are awesome sir |
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| 12:58.38 | microbit | i should write that down , so i remember it next time ... c _ c |
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| 13:32.11 | choice | Hello! I installed two debian servers from scratch, however one seems to use UTC and the other CEST. |
| 13:32.17 | choice | How do I change the UTC ond to CEST? |
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| 13:32.56 | choice | On the UTC one, all log files etc are in UTC time. I don't like that. |
| 13:33.23 | bolt | choice: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 13:33.42 | bolt | log files in UTC are generally a good thing, by the way |
| 13:34.08 | bolt | if you want a specific locale for your user, that should be set on your user |
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| 13:34.11 | bolt | just my 2c |
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| 13:34.25 | choice | Ok.. will try that. How do I see what the old setting was? |
| 13:34.40 | bolt | cat /etc/timezone |
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| 13:34.53 | choice | Etc/UTC |
| 13:34.54 | choice | Hmm... |
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| 13:35.58 | choice | Ok, I did. dpkg-reconfigure tzdata. |
| 13:36.01 | choice | That looks better. |
| 13:36.06 | choice | Will it survive a reboot? |
| 13:36.12 | bolt | cat /etc/timezone |
| 13:36.39 | choice | Incoming logs are still wrong. |
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| 13:36.55 | bolt | choice: you may need to restart rsyslogd, or whatever you're using |
| 13:37.11 | choice | bolt: Maybe a reboot? |
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| 13:37.28 | choice | tries "reboot" |
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| 13:37.45 | bolt | that'll do |
| 13:37.50 | bolt | a bit brutal, but it should do |
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| 13:40.55 | choice | That helped :) |
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| 13:42.12 | juslintek | Hi I've kind solved the problem earlier I spoke about with setfacl, but another problem arose, now I can write anything with php on any permissions, but problem is that owner is changed from user to www-data and again from console, I cannot list or edit anything modified by php, because owner ir set to www-data. How to solve this misunderstanding, because my user is in www-data group and www-data user is in my user group, so cross-linked. :-) |
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| 13:44.31 | ChrisH | A question on Bug 820794: Will that fixed package: 820794 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u1 appear in stable repos sonner or later automatically or do I need to do some requests? Assumed answer: will be there automagically sonner |
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| 13:47.25 | jelly | judd, bug #820794 |
| 13:47.26 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/820794 in smbclient (closed, fixed-upstream, patch): «smbclient: "cli_list: Error: unable to parse name from info level 260" with Windows 10 shares»; severity: grave; opened: 2016-04-12; last modified: 2016-10-18. |
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| 13:47.53 | jelly | ChrisH: that package version strongly suggested it's destined for an upload to stable |
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| 13:48.08 | jelly | ,v smbclient |
| 13:48.09 | judd | Package: smbclient on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u10; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3; jessie: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3; sid: 2:4.4.6+dfsg-2; stretch: 2:4.4.6+dfsg-2 |
| 13:48.44 | ChrisH | jelly: that was what I hoped for :) My Dad is missining his backup sind April |
| 13:48.52 | jelly | ouch |
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| 13:52.12 | jelly | ChrisH: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/samba I'm reading the "accepted" as "it's going to be in jessie-proposed-updates and possibly jessie any day now" |
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| 13:57.22 | ChrisH | jelly: thanks. I just wanted to avoid missing a step and waiting for the update. |
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| 14:03.31 | bolt | juslintek: i don't know what you're up to, but you may want to check out apache2-mpm-itk, to run your websites as a given user rather than as www-data |
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| 14:13.25 | juslintek | bolt, know that one, but even apache itself doesn't recommend it. Now reading about php-fpm pool.d config per virtual host |
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| 14:14.00 | juslintek | But it is very easy and usefull solution that mpm-itk |
| 14:14.22 | juslintek | But not the most secure one. |
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| 14:17.20 | NapoleonWils0n | hi all |
| 14:18.06 | NapoleonWils0n | im trying to run xkbcomp after gnome starts up |
| 14:18.24 | NapoleonWils0n | tried creating desktop file, xsession and using bashrc |
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| 14:21.40 | bolt | juslintek: do you have a source on the apache project recommending against mpm-itk? |
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| 14:23.40 | juslintek | bolt, can't find it, guess I'll try it out. :-) |
| 14:23.43 | NapoleonWils0n | guess ill have to disable gdm and use startx and xinitrc |
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| 14:23.50 | NapoleonWils0n | or not use gnome |
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| 14:28.12 | NapoleonWils0n | i can run thexkbcomp command in the teminal and it works just a pain to have to do it manuallly after login |
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| 14:29.10 | bolt | NapoleonWils0n: i was pretty certain gnome had a functioning autostart feature |
| 14:29.29 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: tried ~/.xprofile? |
| 14:30.03 | NapoleonWils0n | allright teraflops |
| 14:30.12 | NapoleonWils0n | will try .xprofile |
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| 14:30.42 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: also when you say desktop file, where do you put it? ~/.config/autostart? /etc/xdg/autostart? |
| 14:30.52 | sn0wmonster | is there anything special required to run an AppImage from the terminal? |
| 14:30.56 | NapoleonWils0n | ~/.config/autostart |
| 14:31.42 | sn0wmonster | im trying and it's saying "No such File or Directory" |
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| 14:32.22 | babilen | And what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 14:32.24 | NapoleonWils0n | xprofile doesnt work either |
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| 14:33.50 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: it's ~/.xprofile, also what's the command you're running? |
| 14:34.00 | teraflops | the *exact* command |
| 14:34.34 | NapoleonWils0n | xkbcomp -I$HOME/.xkb $HOME/.xkb/keymap/keymap.xkb $DISPLAY |
| 14:34.59 | NapoleonWils0n | im remapping crl to alt, alt to super and super to ctrl |
| 14:35.11 | NapoleonWils0n | works in the terminal and with xinitrc from startx |
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| 14:37.04 | NapoleonWils0n | trying xprofile |
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| 14:38.06 | NapoleonWils0n | xprofile not working either |
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| 14:38.50 | babilen | NapoleonWils0n: ~/.xsessionrc ? |
| 14:39.20 | NapoleonWils0n | tried that as well didnt work |
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| 14:39.57 | NapoleonWils0n | tried ~/.xprofile, ~/.xsession, desktop autostart file, ~/.bashrc |
| 14:40.11 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: that's weird gdm sources ~/.xprofile so if the very same command you pasted above works pasted from terminal I have no idea |
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| 14:40.11 | NapoleonWils0n | do desktop autostart files need to be executable |
| 14:40.30 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: nope afaik |
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| 14:40.39 | NapoleonWils0n | didnt think so |
| 14:41.02 | NapoleonWils0n | guess ill have to disable gdm login and use startx with xinitrc |
| 14:41.16 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: are you sure the very same command you pasted above works from terminal, including the env vars? |
| 14:41.28 | NapoleonWils0n | yes works like a charm |
| 14:41.47 | NapoleonWils0n | even if you log out and back in again the change persists |
| 14:41.48 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: then I guess gdm is doing something there |
| 14:41.57 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 14:42.20 | tobiasBora | In xkb, I would like to remap the "Enter" key of a remote control device. |
| 14:42.34 | NapoleonWils0n | i used dconf to override the gnome desktop settings with [] |
| 14:42.40 | tobiasBora | I would like to use this script : http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/xkb_remap/ |
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| 14:43.18 | tobiasBora | However I don't knot how to find the keylabel (for example <FK10>) of my key. I just know it's displayed as Enter in my screen |
| 14:43.29 | NapoleonWils0n | i know gnome can override setkbmap |
| 14:43.44 | tobiasBora | And xen gives me : state 0x10, keycode 36 (keysym 0xff0d, Return), same_screen YES, |
| 14:44.26 | NapoleonWils0n | you mean xev |
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| 14:44.36 | tobiasBora | yes xev sorry |
| 14:45.08 | NapoleonWils0n | you can dump the keyboard mapping with xkbcomp i think |
| 14:45.13 | babilen | NapoleonWils0n: So you didn't try ~/.xsessionrc ? |
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| 14:46.11 | babilen | NapoleonWils0n: And you might also want to try hardcoding $HOME in there for testing |
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| 14:46.23 | NapoleonWils0n | i reied ~/.xsessionrc as well |
| 14:46.40 | NapoleonWils0n | i was using $HOME maybe need to hardcode |
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| 14:46.51 | babilen | Which DM are you using? |
| 14:47.10 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: tried double quoting The env vars? |
| 14:47.13 | NapoleonWils0n | using gnome |
| 14:47.16 | CQ | hello, my machine hangs on shutdown... how can I figure out what's causing it? I haven't seen anything strange in messages, syslog etc. yet... what should i be looking for? |
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| 14:47.21 | babilen | NapoleonWils0n: So that's gdm3 then? |
| 14:47.33 | NapoleonWils0n | yup |
| 14:47.52 | th0r | CQ, do you have network drives mounted at shutdown? |
| 14:47.55 | babilen | NapoleonWils0n: I'd make the script as simple as possible and call it in ~/.xsessionrc -- Once that works you can make it more generic |
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| 14:48.13 | CQ | th0r: samba shares, yes (usually at least) |
| 14:48.39 | th0r | CQ, I found they will cause a long delay at shutdown. Try unmounting them first and see if the shutdown is any quicker |
| 14:49.07 | CQ | th0r: let me try that now, thanks... bbiab then. Need to reboot anyway |
| 14:49.12 | NapoleonWils0n | changed $HOME to hardcoded path and rebooting |
| 14:51.33 | NapoleonWils0n | changed xkbcomp to /usr/bin/xkbcomp and hardcoded home path and rebooting |
| 14:52.25 | NapoleonWils0n | doesnt work with .xprofile |
| 14:52.41 | babilen | ~/.xsessionrc |
| 14:52.41 | apt | it has been said that /.xsessionrc is outside their purview and should still work |
| 14:52.57 | babilen | apt: thanks |
| 14:52.57 | apt | bitte, babilen |
| 14:53.41 | tobiasBora | NapoleonWils0n: I tried to but key 36 {[space]} but I got errors... |
| 14:53.44 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: or just pipe the command outpu you run from .xprofile to > whatever and then look at it. or make a script with set -x at top of it and call it from. xprofile |
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| 14:54.47 | NapoleonWils0n | xsessionrc doesnt work either |
| 14:54.57 | NapoleonWils0n | will try your sugesstion teraflops |
| 14:55.10 | noahmg123 | how can i get chrome text inputs to trigger the on screen keyboard ? |
| 14:55.43 | greycat | dpkg, .xsessionrc is <reply>~/.xsessionrc is read by startx and by all display managers, before starting the X session. See <https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables> and <https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession>. |
| 14:55.44 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 14:59.09 | NapoleonWils0n | tried your suggestion teraflops no dice |
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| 14:59.28 | greycat | NapoleonWils0n: I missed the start of this. What are you trying to do? |
| 14:59.32 | NapoleonWils0n | seems like only way is to disable gdm login and use startx |
| 14:59.36 | NapoleonWils0n | hi greycat |
| 14:59.43 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: what's the output? |
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| 15:00.00 | NapoleonWils0n | greycat trying to run this command after login |
| 15:00.02 | NapoleonWils0n | xkbcomp -I$HOME/.xkb $HOME/.xkb/keymap/keymap.xkb $DISPLAY |
| 15:00.26 | greycat | So is your problem "this works, but GNOME overrides it later"? |
| 15:00.34 | NapoleonWils0n | yes greycat |
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| 15:00.35 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: how did you tried then? is there any output? |
| 15:00.43 | greycat | I can't help you with making GNOME stop doing stuff. :( |
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| 15:01.07 | NapoleonWils0n | created script with set -x and then command and started from .profile |
| 15:01.12 | NapoleonWils0n | didnt do anything |
| 15:01.17 | greycat | .profile is not used by gdm3 logins |
| 15:01.21 | tobiasBora | I found the solution, it was RTRN ! |
| 15:01.27 | teraflops | .xprofile |
| 15:01.31 | greycat | .xprofile is not even a THING |
| 15:01.46 | greycat | I think Arch uses that. Or maybe it's specific to some DE. |
| 15:01.56 | NapoleonWils0n | gotcha |
| 15:02.09 | teraflops | greycat: gdm3 sources ~/.xprofile |
| 15:02.13 | greycat | Ah. |
| 15:02.29 | teraflops | lightdm too |
| 15:03.07 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: but told the script to redirect output to a file? |
| 15:03.11 | greycat | I ... if lightdm does that, it sure as hell isn't *documented*. |
| 15:03.25 | NapoleonWils0n | missed that bit my bad mate |
| 15:03.31 | greycat | Not that lightdm has any documentation. "Lightdm is a display manager." |
| 15:03.50 | jonah | Hi can anyone help with a spare server I have. I have made a "hotswap" server as a backup box, so if I get a hardware failure on a different machine I can stick the drives in the spare/hotswap and boot that. Now it does boot great when testing with my debian jessie hard drives - BUT the Network card doesn't work as it has a different one to the other systems. I just wondered how I can enable the network card to work with debian jessie if I need to |
| 15:03.50 | teraflops | greycat: I tried to find out where is it documented but no luck |
| 15:03.51 | jonah | use this backup box... Thanks for any help? |
| 15:04.14 | greycat | Reverse engineering the DM madness requires actually installing the DMs, unfortunately. |
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| 15:04.36 | teraflops | hehe |
| 15:04.49 | petn-randall | jonah: Do you mean the network card of the backup box gets a different interface name assigned? |
| 15:04.50 | jonah | the card in the working server uses eth0, but when I boot the spare with a livecd (ubuntu) it uses enp2s0. The spare's card is Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 |
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| 15:05.27 | NapoleonWils0n | ill just disable gdm and use startx and xinitrc |
| 15:05.35 | NapoleonWils0n | im a startx kind og guy |
| 15:05.36 | teraflops | heh |
| 15:05.45 | greycat | uses startx too |
| 15:05.46 | derphilipp_ | I set up my raspi as a wifi -> internet router, but I need to deny access to Lan as it shall be a guest wifi; What firewall rule do I have to add? |
| 15:05.54 | teraflops | but you miss the debugging fun |
| 15:06.02 | NapoleonWils0n | lifes too short |
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| 15:06.20 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: nah. I do startx too |
| 15:06.21 | ChrisH | jonah: then I assume you have two options. 1. get the same card into the spare box. 2. dokument the difference and put a second network config file in and show how they have to be replaced in case a switch happens |
| 15:07.06 | NapoleonWils0n | sudo systemctl disable gdm, something like that |
| 15:07.06 | petn-randall | 3. change the udev config to assign both cards the same interface name. The only case it won't work is when both devices ever get put into the same machine. |
| 15:07.10 | greycat | dpkg, xsessionrc is <reply>see .xsessionrc |
| 15:07.10 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 15:07.11 | teraflops | the funny thing is that you can source. xprofile from |
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| 15:07.25 | teraflops | xinitrc too |
| 15:07.28 | teraflops | oops |
| 15:07.37 | jonah | ChrisH: yeah i unfortunately can't use the same network card due to it being a small itx form factor on the spare, but a seperate config file would suit me. I tried just putting enp2s0 in the network interfaces file but that didn't work... |
| 15:07.50 | teraflops | will that work? :P |
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| 15:08.33 | greycat | teraflops: Everything I've discovered so far is on https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables and https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession |
| 15:09.10 | NapoleonWils0n | i tend to check the arch wiki even if im using a differnt distro to be honest |
| 15:09.14 | NapoleonWils0n | best wiki bar none |
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| 15:09.40 | greycat | The arch wiki is good for certain things, but dot files are unique to distros. Debian made ~/.xsessionrc so you won't see that on the Arch wiki. |
| 15:09.41 | teraflops | greycat: hmm. well I'm pretty sure it sources .xprofile in debian jessie |
| 15:09.51 | greycat | teraflops: what's "it"? |
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| 15:09.56 | teraflops | gdm3 |
| 15:10.00 | greycat | That may be true. |
| 15:10.29 | greycat | I am absolutely certain that startx does not. |
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| 15:10.40 | NapoleonWils0n | debian wiki blocks you if you use privateinternetacess vpn |
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| 15:10.45 | teraflops | yeah that's true |
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| 15:11.14 | teraflops | but I said that you can source it from .xinitrc not that it sources it by default |
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| 15:11.45 | NapoleonWils0n | is this the correct command to disable gdm |
| 15:11.46 | greycat | You could also source ~/.nanonano from ~/.xsession but I'm only concerned with the defaults. |
| 15:11.47 | NapoleonWils0n | # systemctl set-default multi-user.target |
| 15:11.54 | teraflops | yeah hehe |
| 15:12.06 | greycat | NapoleonWils0n: I'd just use "systemctl disable gdm3" |
| 15:12.08 | teraflops | I meant yeah for greycat |
| 15:12.21 | NapoleonWils0n | cheers greycat |
| 15:12.26 | greycat | This whole "make believe we're still using sysvinit on Red Hat and have run levels" thing is weird. |
| 15:13.39 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: nope. just systemctl disable the thing |
| 15:13.55 | jelly | systemd's targets can probably emulate "3" or "5" or even "s" quite well |
| 15:14.06 | greycat | The other way probably works too, but I've never tried it, and it seems like drastic overkill. |
| 15:14.15 | NapoleonWils0n | greycat that didnt disable gdm login |
| 15:14.24 | greycat | If it's already running you also have to stop it. |
| 15:14.33 | greycat | Disable just prevents it from starting at boot. |
| 15:14.35 | NapoleonWils0n | should be gdm |
| 15:14.38 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: because disable is not stop |
| 15:14.40 | greycat | Oh? Weird. |
| 15:14.59 | jelly | greycat: note that disable doesn't actually disable a service, if something else depends on it and wants it started... it gets started. Just not on its own |
| 15:15.23 | th0r | CQ, the boot go quicker |
| 15:15.36 | NapoleonWils0n | no that didnt work either |
| 15:15.54 | greycat | what are you getting from "systemctl status gdm" and/or "systemctl status gdm3"? |
| 15:16.11 | th0r | CQ, the shutdown rather...did it go faster ? |
| 15:16.27 | NapoleonWils0n | no its running |
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| 15:18.39 | NapoleonWils0n | i give up on gnome too much hasle will just using i3m-wm |
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| 15:19.21 | Ayatollah | Hello |
| 15:19.27 | Ayatollah | When is systemd coming to Debian GNU/Hurd? |
| 15:19.48 | greycat | Does HURD have cgroups? I think systemd depends on those. |
| 15:19.49 | petn-randall | Ayatollah: It's linux only, so it's never coming. |
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| 15:20.11 | Ayatollah | fack |
| 15:20.24 | Ayatollah | Debian should have the same init system across platforms |
| 15:20.26 | Ayatollah | that's goofy |
| 15:20.41 | greycat | There are things that depend heavily on an architecture or a kernel. |
| 15:20.47 | teraflops | !bug 749374 |
| 15:20.52 | teraflops | !bug #749374 |
| 15:20.53 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/749374 in gdm3 (closed): «gdm3: Disable gdm3 service for systemd doesn't work»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-05-26; last modified: 2015-08-03. |
| 15:20.57 | greycat | E.g. you don't have LILO or GRUB on the esoteric platforms. |
| 15:20.57 | Ayatollah | greycat: true |
| 15:21.10 | NapoleonWils0n | # systemctl set-default multi-user.target does disable the gdm login |
| 15:21.21 | jonah | ChrisH: I'm installing debian now on the spare, but when you say have a second network config file, can I not just add enp2s0 to the /etc/network/interfaces file with the same entries as eth0 has - I tried this but it didn't work for some reason? |
| 15:21.25 | NapoleonWils0n | but now its not running the command in .xinitrc with startx |
| 15:21.39 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: mask it, read the bug I pasted |
| 15:22.08 | NapoleonWils0n | as in sticky back plastic like blue peter |
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| 15:22.45 | greycat | .xsession has been preferred over .xinitrc in Debian for like 15 years |
| 15:23.28 | NapoleonWils0n | ok will try .xessions |
| 15:23.35 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: again are you sure is not related to what you run? that's why I suggested sex -x and/or 2>&1 to a file |
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| 15:24.24 | NapoleonWils0n | will try renaming xinitrc to xsession |
| 15:24.32 | teraflops | ಠ_ಠ|
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| 15:25.08 | greycat | I second the suggestion to *log* what your dot files are doing. |
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| 15:26.05 | NapoleonWils0n | sex -x thats a new one teraflops you getting jiggy with your laptop |
| 15:26.08 | teraflops | oops s/sex/set |
| 15:26.15 | teraflops | heh |
| 15:26.18 | teraflops | sorry |
| 15:26.22 | NapoleonWils0n | freudion slip mate |
| 15:26.22 | teraflops | pheeewww |
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| 15:28.47 | NapoleonWils0n | thinks it not working because of xkbcomp errors no symbol defined for key |
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| 15:31.53 | NapoleonWils0n | i did see that error when googling, seems like it wont work at login with those errors but works in the terminal |
| 15:32.08 | NapoleonWils0n | strange works perfectly on Arch with startx |
| 15:32.31 | greycat | (Back when the display manager of choice was xdm, when dinosaurs roamed the earth and we had CRTs, xinit used to read .xinitrc and xdm used to read .xsession. And Debian was like "this is crap" and made them both read .xsession.) |
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| 15:33.51 | Hello71 | implying that people don't still use xdm |
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| 15:34.01 | greycat | It's no longer the DM of choice. |
| 15:34.06 | greycat | lightdm seems to have taken over that role |
| 15:34.06 | Hello71 | eh, alright. |
| 15:34.17 | derphilipp | What do I need to modify in my ruleset to disallow traffic to local network of eth0 _but_ allow access to the internet in this ruleset: http://pastebin.com/TcajV1HC |
| 15:34.27 | NapoleonWils0n | yup bug from 2009 |
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| 15:34.45 | NapoleonWils0n | and 2006 |
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| 15:37.13 | NapoleonWils0n | came across suggestion to: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 15:38.00 | woshty | Connecting a usb floppy drive, it does get assigned sdx device name. How to get it to be fd0? |
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| 15:58.50 | ChrisH | woshty: why do you want it to be named fd0? |
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| 15:59.35 | jelly | cd /dev; ln -s sdx fd0 # can be done with custom udev rules, but I have no idea about the syntax |
| 15:59.54 | cqu | hello, my machine is hanging on shutdown... "Stopping remaining crypto disks" . I tried just booting and shutting down without logging in, so nothing's mounted. I have an encrypted home |
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| 16:02.03 | cqu | crypttab just has the encrypted swap in it |
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| 16:02.32 | cqu | logging in as root (so the encrypted user home isn't mounted) and then shutting down doesn't help either, same result. |
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| 16:04.05 | petn-randall | derphilipp: Your indenting is all over the place, it's hard to read. |
| 16:04.48 | derphilipp | petn-randall: oh wow, i wasnt aware, sorry, gimme a sec |
| 16:05.29 | derphilipp | http://pastebin.com/raw/4cQWd9sJ => Same paste, but properly aligned |
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| 16:08.35 | sn0wmonster | Hi guys. I'm trying to mount a veracrypt encrypted USB device that used to be used in a windows environment. Because it was in Windows and windows could not recognize it, it constantly popped up a "would you like to format this drive?" prompt. For fear of accidentally clicking "yes" or hitting the y key when it would decide to randomly prompt, I took internet advice and flipped a bit on the drive. It worked! No more auto-format prompt. |
| 16:08.40 | sn0wmonster | I could *always* just see the drive under "drives" inside of Truecrypt/veracrypt while in windows so it was a win/win. Here I am a year later though, and now that i am trying to use said drive in Debian, i see it listed in the "Hard Disk" menu in Gnome, but not shown in the command line of lsblk. Is there a way to flip that bit back or force Debian to see the drive? it says the location is /dev/sdd despite lsblk not showing such. |
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| 16:12.54 | bolt | sn0wmonster: i'm almost certain that knowing what you meant by "flipping a bit" would help |
| 16:13.23 | petn-randall | sn0wmonster: Could you still use the device after "flipping the bit"? What is stopping you from flipping it back? |
| 16:13.27 | sn0wmonster | yea, trying to find the page i read. something about making the computer think the USB drive was a CD drive or something |
| 16:13.54 | sn0wmonster | it was somehting about assigning it a "device type" bit |
| 16:14.09 | bolt | sn0wmonster: do tools like parted show any partitions on your /dev/sdd? |
| 16:14.13 | petn-randall | derphilipp: What is eth0 and wlan0 connected to in your scenario? |
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| 16:14.35 | derphilipp | wlan0 is my wifi point; here the guests shall connect to (dhcp, etc. is running) |
| 16:15.00 | derphilipp | eth0 is the lan the raspi is inside. here also the router is located. |
| 16:15.16 | petn-randall | derphilipp: Especially, on what device is your uplink connected to, and how? |
| 16:15.22 | derphilipp | So I want to allow to route all âinternetâ traffic to that device, while disallowing any traffic to my lan services |
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| 16:16.08 | derphilipp | the paste is from the raspberry pi that shall create a wifi for guests that are allowed to access the internet, but not local services |
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| 16:17.12 | jmcnaught | cqu: then it sounds like this task that is hanging is to do with your encrypted swap. Does it eventually time out? |
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| 16:17.32 | jmcnaught | sn0wmonster: have you tried mounting it in the gnome disks utility? |
| 16:17.42 | cqu | jmcnaught: not sure, at least not after waiting 20 minutes... |
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| 16:18.12 | rapha | hi! |
| 16:18.13 | jmcnaught | cqu: oh, the default time out would be 90 seconds |
| 16:18.23 | sn0wmonster | it shows in the Gnome disks utility, but it does not show any partitions or mount buttons, just an options, and i can disable the auto-mount, and put in my own info (althoguh i have no idea what to put in) |
| 16:18.28 | jmcnaught | cqu: this is Debian 8 with systemd? |
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| 16:18.40 | rapha | in stretch, is there a way to install 32bit java 8 + 32bit firefox alongside the 64bit versions? |
| 16:18.59 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 16:18.59 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 16:19.25 | rapha | thanks |
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| 16:19.58 | forgotmynick | hello. i have a server that says 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 (2016-09-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux -- am I affected by CVE 2016-7117? |
| 16:19.59 | cqu | jmcnaught: 8.6 , I think still with sysvinit |
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| 16:21.17 | petn-randall | derphilipp: Yes, but WHERE is the internet connected to? Right now you have two devices connected to the LAN. |
| 16:21.19 | jmcnaught | sn0wmonster: you could also try "cryptsetup open --type tcrypt /dev/sdX name" but i recommend that you read the relevant part of cryptsetup(8) first |
| 16:21.37 | derphilipp | petn-randall: ah, sorry, it is a static ip on eth0 |
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| 16:22.08 | jmcnaught | cqu: systemd is default on debian 8 unless you took steps to install sysvinit. what does "ls -l /sbin/init" point to? |
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| 16:23.12 | petn-randall | derphilipp: Is this a static public IP on eth0? Or one from the private subnets? |
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| 16:23.30 | derphilipp | static public ip on eth0 |
| 16:23.47 | derphilipp | as far as i understand |
| 16:23.52 | jmcnaught | forgotmynick: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-7117 |
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| 16:24.42 | forgotmynick | thanks. so i don't need to worry? :D |
| 16:24.49 | jmcnaught | cqu: if it is systemd that's good, it's got sweet tools for debugging. look at /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian about the debug-shell you can enable during shutdown to see what is going on |
| 16:24.59 | petn-randall | derphilipp: Then the internet can already connect to that device, as you haven't change the default policy. |
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| 16:25.23 | derphilipp | petn-randall: correct; but i want to DENY clients coming from wifi to all other lan services |
| 16:25.54 | jmcnaught | forgotmynick: does "apt-cache policy linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64" match the fixed version on the security tracker? |
| 16:26.41 | petn-randall | derphilipp: I thought wifi is your LAN? |
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| 16:26.59 | forgotmynick | jmcnaught: i believe so? https://paste.linux.community/view/raw/e73d704c |
| 16:28.23 | jmcnaught | forgotmynick: 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 == 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 but don't trust my eyes, i'm some stranger on the internet :P (trying to show you how to check this stuff on your own in the future) |
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| 16:29.14 | derphilipp | petn-randall: ah sorry; wifi is where the clients are connection to the raspi; they shall be able to connect to the internet but not to any other lan services. on eth0 the router resides and also multiple other services/servers |
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| 16:29.22 | petn-randall | derphilipp: You can add 'iptables -A INPUT -i wlan0 -d <wifi ip> -j REJECT', then anything that comes from wlan0 destined to <wifi ip> will be rejected. |
| 16:29.37 | forgotmynick | the link you sent was helpful too thanks. debians security tracker is easier to read so i figured but then when you made me check i thought maybe i was missing something |
| 16:30.06 | petn-randall | derphilipp: In that case replace <wifi ip> with the subnet on the other side, like '192.168.0.0/24'. |
| 16:30.29 | jmcnaught | forgotmynick: the idea is that you compare the versions. it looks like you're all good. |
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| 16:36.18 | sn0wmonster | im just gonna load it up in windows and redo it. thanks guys |
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| 16:36.50 | Rinpoo | I'm having trouble with file permissions I've used sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www and sudo chmod -R g+rw /var/www and sudo chmod -R 770 /var/www/html but I still get You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 16:37.31 | greycat | What makes you think it's due to file perms? What is the error in the web server's log? |
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| 16:39.31 | jelly | Rinpoo: which web server software? which debian release? what's the DocumentRoot? See if your access logs can confirm you're trying to read the right VirtualHost, and if your error log points to a cause. |
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| 16:40.18 | Rinpoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:40.34 | Rinpoo | doc root is var/www/html/website |
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| 16:42.00 | jelly | Rinpoo: pastebin the output of "apachectl -S" and a dozen lines of relevant access log and error log, point out your attempt |
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| 16:46.38 | Rinpoo | http://pastebin.com/CVQwLpjt |
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| 16:47.02 | Rinpoo | what a day I've been on this for over 10 hours now |
| 16:47.17 | Rinpoo | I mean the whole vhost setup process |
| 16:47.32 | Rinpoo | one problem after another |
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| 16:48.41 | Rinpoo | I'm not sure what you mean by pointing out my attempt |
| 16:48.51 | jmcnaught | Rinpoo: can you show us /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/BrahRah.conf ? |
| 16:48.58 | Rinpoo | sure |
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| 16:49.54 | Rinpoo | http://pastebin.com/NpPiA8G8 |
| 16:50.27 | Rinpoo | the domain doesnt work though just a test domain I sue with hosts |
| 16:50.32 | Rinpoo | use |
| 16:50.43 | Rinpoo | in case you try to visit it XD |
| 16:51.06 | CtrlC | How can I run a vpn on a machine and then provide a proxy from that machine to outside so that others use the VPN IP? |
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| 16:52.49 | Rinpoo | I wish managing servers was easier |
| 16:53.36 | jelly | Rinpoo: googling for AH01797 suggests issues with mod_access_compat, try to get rid of old Allow / Deny / Order stuff and replace with just "Require all granted" |
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| 16:54.02 | Rinpoo | I'll try |
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| 16:57.05 | Rinpoo | now I can open website2 folder |
| 16:57.11 | Rinpoo | called brahrah |
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| 16:58.18 | Rinpoo | I still get [Wed Oct 19 16:47:48.509850 2016] [access_compat:error] [pid 27858:tid 140183476946688] [client 5.2.64.89:51657] AH01797: client denied by server configuration: /var/www/html/BrahRah/ |
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| 17:00.54 | Rinpoo | god damn it I'm dieing |
| 17:01.36 | Rinpoo | been config. the server for month now and I still can;t get shit done |
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| 17:02.37 | Rinpoo | maybe I should reset the file permissons |
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| 17:05.22 | Rinpoo | any ideas how I should continue? |
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| 17:08.52 | Rinpoo | anyone? |
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| 17:10.31 | greycat | "client denied by server configuration: /var/www/html/BrahRah/" has nothing to do with unix file permissions. Look at your httpd configs. Make sure access is granted to this directory at the WEB SERVER level. |
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| 17:12.41 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: remove the order line |
| 17:12.45 | `Kevin | is this is 2.4 |
| 17:13.37 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: is this apache 2.2 or 2.4 |
| 17:13.37 | Rinpoo | Require all granted is the only thing left |
| 17:13.52 | Rinpoo | did that already |
| 17:14.24 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: is this an upgraded apache with old configs possibly still hanging around? |
| 17:14.41 | Rinpoo | I purged it today |
| 17:14.49 | Rinpoo | and reinstalled cause it was buggy |
| 17:16.11 | `Kevin | do you have an index.html file? curious if maybe it is asking for a directory listing |
| 17:16.24 | Rinpoo | yes I have 2 of them |
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| 17:16.31 | Rinpoo | one for weall one for brahrah |
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| 17:17.16 | Rinpoo | I get no more errors though |
| 17:17.31 | Rinpoo | last error was half an hour ago |
| 17:17.48 | `Kevin | so whats happening now :P |
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| 17:18.16 | Rinpoo | I get redirected to www/html/ |
| 17:18.30 | Rinpoo | and only one folder is showing |
| 17:18.39 | Rinpoo | the one for brhrah |
| 17:18.41 | Rinpoo | +a |
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| 17:19.06 | Rinpoo | for both websites |
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| 17:20.00 | Rinpoo | damn I wish I had an AI that would do this shit |
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| 17:21.30 | jhutchins_wk | Rinpoo: That sounds like the <Directory> section of your config file isn't allowing access. |
| 17:21.52 | jhutchins_wk | Rinpoo: "Denied by server configuration" says it's not file ownership/permissions, it's access config. |
| 17:21.54 | Rinpoo | let me check it |
| 17:22.07 | Rinpoo | it shouldnt though |
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| 17:23.16 | jhutchins_wk | Rinpoo: (Which is what greycat told you.) |
| 17:23.30 | Rinpoo | apache2.conf: var/www/ Require all granted |
| 17:23.50 | greycat | You still need <Directory> stuff. |
| 17:23.58 | Rinpoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.14 | `Kevin | (17:17] < Rinpoo> I get no more errors though) |
| 17:24.22 | `Kevin | ^ is the denied no longer showing up? (fixed?) |
| 17:24.28 | Rinpoo | yes |
| 17:24.51 | Rinpoo | last entry in error.log was over half an hour ago |
| 17:25.57 | Rinpoo | just getting redirected to the wrong directory now |
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| 17:26.22 | Rinpoo | sill dono how to fix it tough |
| 17:26.43 | `Kevin | can you paste curl output so we have context |
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| 17:26.50 | `Kevin | curl -I http//blah.../blah |
| 17:26.59 | `Kevin | pastebin* |
| 17:27.31 | Rinpoo | which website? |
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| 17:27.58 | greycat | Whichever one does not work. |
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| 17:29.02 | Rinpoo | http://pastebin.com/MntWYJrm |
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| 17:29.48 | Rinpoo | other one is exactly the same |
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| 17:30.44 | greycat | 5.4.22 is a somewhat old PHP... my wheezy server has php5-fpm 5.4.45-0+deb7u5 |
| 17:30.55 | greycat | Did you ever say which version of Apache this is? |
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| 17:33.21 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: thats a 200 not a redirect |
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| 17:34.03 | `Kevin | perhaps some terminology gaps here :) |
| 17:34.17 | greycat | Seems probable his virtual host config is all messed up. |
| 17:34.24 | `Kevin | yep |
| 17:34.35 | greycat | Even more so if we've been giving him apache 2.4 advice and he's on wheezy or squeeze or something. |
| 17:34.45 | `Kevin | so he means its serving from the wrong directory/vhost |
| 17:34.48 | `Kevin | yea |
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| 17:34.56 | Rinpoo | 2.4.10 |
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| 17:35.22 | Rinpoo | @ kevin Im not sure what 200 is |
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| 17:35.39 | Resilience | hello to everyone, I am having trouble with hibernate, it seems that it corrupts my fs, and it is related to the kernel 4 series, is there some workaround? |
| 17:36.05 | greycat | I don't understand how he has a jessie Apache version (2.4.10) but his paste is showing X-Powered-By: PHP/5.4.22 which is older than wheezy's. |
| 17:36.33 | Rinpoo | deb 8.6 |
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| 17:36.52 | Rinpoo | let me check php |
| 17:37.26 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: dpkg -l | egrep 'php|apache' |
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| 17:38.31 | Rinpoo | PHP 5.6.26-0+deb8u1 |
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| 17:38.40 | `Kevin | lol.. |
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| 17:38.49 | `Kevin | wtf |
| 17:39.25 | Rinpoo | well that what I got with apt-get |
| 17:39.49 | cqu | are there "official" instructions on setting up encrypted swap? googling turns up a ton, with different variations... |
| 17:40.00 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: what command did you use to check the version |
| 17:40.22 | Rinpoo | dpkg -l | egrep 'php|apache' and php -v |
| 17:40.25 | dpkg | No packages found matching | egrep 'php|apache' and php -v |
| 17:40.33 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: can you provide the curl command you used? |
| 17:40.53 | cqu | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch09.en.html#_encrypted_swap_partition_with_dm_crypt ? |
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| 17:42.15 | Rinpoo | uff it's somewhere in a 10+h long terminal log |
| 17:42.28 | `Kevin | history | grep curl | tail |
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| 17:42.58 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 17:42.59 | Rinpoo | curl -I http//www.weall-system.one |
| 17:43.12 | `Kevin | regarding apache not serving from the correct virtualhost/directory you likely need NameVirtualHost *:80 |
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| 17:43.35 | tobiasBora | Is it possible to use xkb to remap to a key with a modifier. |
| 17:43.58 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: actually maybe not in 2.4 looking |
| 17:44.00 | Rinpoo | I'll try addin Name to it |
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| 17:44.22 | Rinpoo | so I dont need Name in apache 2.4? |
| 17:44.30 | tobiasBora | For the moment I use key <RTRN> { [ space , space, space, space ] }; |
| 17:44.32 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: actually yea you do not need that in 2.4 |
| 17:44.37 | Rinpoo | k |
| 17:44.37 | tobiasBora | to map Return to Space. |
| 17:44.38 | greycat | arc3:~$ cat /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/wiki.eeg.ccf.org.conf |
| 17:44.38 | greycat | <VirtualHost *:80> |
| 17:44.38 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.53 | greycat | That's on jessie (2.4). |
| 17:44.53 | tobiasBora | But I don't know how to map it to Ctrl+space. |
| 17:45.18 | Rinpoo | one small change one avalanche of problems |
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| 17:46.27 | Rinpoo | well Ill update php later I'll need to fix this shit first |
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| 17:47.50 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: we are just confused why the pastebin you did shows php 5.4.22 |
| 17:47.51 | Rinpoo | could this have something to do with the default-ssl.conf file? |
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| 17:48.34 | Rinpoo | any downsides to using that version? |
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| 17:49.10 | `Kevin | im also confused that when i use curl it seems like im hitting a different ip than you are |
| 17:49.27 | Rinpoo | sec |
| 17:49.49 | Rinpoo | server ip needs to be 45.32.153.224 |
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| 17:51.01 | az_ | any good idea to diff 2 file systems local (mounted from dd image) and remote? |
| 17:51.11 | FinalX | az_: rsync? |
| 17:51.15 | az_ | how? |
| 17:51.17 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: http://pastebin.com/raw/DLiW1rFX |
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| 17:51.31 | `Kevin | why does this differ from your paste? |
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| 17:52.14 | Rinpoo | sec |
| 17:52.22 | FinalX | az_: rsync has a ton of options, you'll probably want to look at its manual for what you want usually starting with rsync -av --dry-run <source> <target> is a good start |
| 17:52.25 | az_ | FinalX: http://pastebin.com/YMF9Ldif |
| 17:53.14 | az_ | FinalX: same with your command in both cases (switched source/target) |
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| 17:53.23 | Rinpoo | I'll redo it with cygwin |
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| 17:53.34 | Rinpoo | maybe Ill get a different result |
| 17:53.43 | az_ | FinalX: hiddenfile* are hidden by rootkit on remote system |
| 17:54.06 | az_ | so when it compare file2file then exist |
| 17:54.09 | az_ | but only when know name |
| 17:54.10 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: do you have a HOSTS dns entry or something? |
| 17:54.17 | Rinpoo | yea |
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| 17:54.33 | az_ | so not sure why in both cases there are not any results because should be in least one |
| 17:54.48 | `Kevin | can you pastebin your hosts file |
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| 17:55.38 | Rinpoo | dont need to only new entry is that server ip plus some made up domain |
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| 17:56.06 | Rinpoo | on the client side |
| 17:56.18 | `Kevin | you shouldnt need a hosts entry if it is indeed 45.32.153.224 as that is what it is resolving as currently for me publically. |
| 17:56.22 | Rinpoo | oh wait I did enter something serverside too |
| 17:56.37 | Rinpoo | but its the same IP you got there |
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| 17:58.07 | Rinpoo | cygwin one: http://pastebin.com/v5UpzKyN |
| 17:58.11 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: specifically this question is in regards to a hosts file on a host where you can your curl from |
| 17:58.24 | `Kevin | right |
| 17:58.29 | `Kevin | that one looks correct |
| 17:58.46 | Rinpoo | than it because I used curl on the host |
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| 17:58.50 | `Kevin | what host did you run the curl from that showed php 5.4 |
| 17:58.51 | `Kevin | right |
| 17:59.41 | Rinpoo | used curl on server where u got the ip from |
| 17:59.57 | greycat | The server's name resolution is generally not important. |
| 17:59.59 | `Kevin | and if you do ( ping -c 1 www.weall-system.one ) on that machine what ip does it show |
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| 18:00.40 | Rinpoo | works finr 0ms |
| 18:00.44 | Rinpoo | -r |
| 18:00.46 | Rinpoo | +e |
| 18:00.49 | `Kevin | yes but what is the ip |
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| 18:00.52 | `Kevin | is it correct? |
| 18:01.02 | Rinpoo | yes |
| 18:01.24 | `Kevin | cant make sense of where this php 5.4 header is coming from.. :| |
| 18:01.47 | Rinpoo | prob cause it's the version installed |
| 18:02.02 | greycat | But it's not. |
| 18:02.07 | Rinpoo | oh |
| 18:02.14 | greycat | I mean, sure, it's installed SOMEWHERE... but not on your jessie host. |
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| 18:02.40 | greycat | So your curl wasn't hitting your jessie host, and we were trying to figure out what host it *did* hit. |
| 18:02.46 | `Kevin | ^ |
| 18:03.35 | Rinpoo | right it's 5.6 |
| 18:03.51 | Rinpoo | let me curl the server itself again |
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| 18:05.01 | Rinpoo | it shows the php 5.6 when I use 127.0.0.1 |
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| 18:05.17 | greycat | Good start. |
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| 18:05.54 | Rinpoo | strange now it's showing the 5.6 with the domain |
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| 18:07.16 | Rinpoo | well we did all this and I'm still stuck with the same problem |
| 18:07.24 | Rinpoo | I guess I'm calling it a day |
| 18:07.29 | Rinpoo | my brain is all mush |
| 18:07.43 | Rinpoo | and nobody seems to know what the problem is anyway |
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| 18:09.38 | Rinpoo | before I go could the default-ssl file be a problem? |
| 18:09.43 | Rinpoo | I found this: https://serverfault.com/questions/739803/redirecting-my-site-is-not-working |
| 18:09.52 | Rinpoo | but I'm not sure if that is the problem |
| 18:10.16 | Rinpoo | I checked the file and it redirects to the var/www/html though |
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| 18:11.17 | Rinpoo | I think I'll try that |
| 18:11.24 | AciD` | hey, what's the 'debian-way' for getting the version 3.* of npm? In stretch, the npm package is very old. Is there a backport somewhere, or should I just `npm -g install npm`? |
| 18:11.43 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: i dont think you have https setup |
| 18:11.47 | greycat | If you're in stretch, go to OFTC #debian-next |
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| 18:11.52 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: so i doubt that is related |
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| 18:12.26 | Rinpoo | well since I dono what it is I'll have to test it |
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| 18:13.00 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: back to the actual problem. can you describe what you are testing that is not working? |
| 18:13.16 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: is the server sending back data from the wrong directory |
| 18:13.31 | Rinpoo | I'm trying to host multiple websites on my server |
| 18:13.40 | `Kevin | right |
| 18:14.28 | Rinpoo | and I get redirected to var/www/html insted of the folders inside the html |
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| 18:14.46 | greycat | Stop using the word "redirected". Say what actually happens. |
| 18:14.49 | Rinpoo | one chost should direct me to one fodler and the other to another |
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| 18:14.59 | Rinpoo | vhost |
| 18:15.06 | Rinpoo | ehhh |
| 18:15.13 | `Kevin | ^ you are confusing people when saying redirected because that is HTTP speak for something else that HTTP does |
| 18:15.32 | Rinpoo | only the BrahRah folder sis shown on both urls |
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| 18:16.04 | unborn | guys - he just setup couple of vhosts and his problem is apache showing default site which means /var/www folder - |
| 18:16.26 | Rinpoo | +html |
| 18:16.26 | `Kevin | indeed |
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| 18:16.34 | unborn | should be clear without need it to specify what it is actually happening or other crap |
| 18:16.53 | greycat | unborn: Please stay out of this. |
| 18:17.06 | Rinpoo | ? |
| 18:17.26 | unborn | Rinpoo: sorry to hear about your issue, but since it is not debian OS related issue I think you should seek advice somewhere else.. |
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| 18:17.45 | Rinpoo | well ok thx anyays |
| 18:17.48 | Rinpoo | +w |
| 18:17.58 | Rinpoo | it was one anyway |
| 18:18.08 | Rinpoo | I ahd permission issues before |
| 18:18.15 | rawf | I've got a cron job running that tries to clean my php sessions. But I don't have php or apache installed, so it keeps mailing me error messages. Does anyone know what this is about? |
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| 18:18.20 | unborn | greycat: sorry - okay |
| 18:18.26 | Rinpoo | this is kinda what's left |
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| 18:20.12 | somiaj | AciD`: you can install things locally but should be careful to ensure local packages don't overlap debian packages (other wise dpkg may clober local info when it is updated) |
| 18:20.19 | somiaj | AciD`: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794890 |
| 18:20.20 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: weall-system.one appears to work for me, but www.brahrah.com is indeed coming up as the wrong document root |
| 18:20.20 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/794890 in npm (open): «npm: new upstream version»; severity: important; opened: 2015-08-07; last modified: 2016-08-10. |
| 18:20.34 | AciD` | thank you somiaj |
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| 18:21.16 | somiaj | AciD`: seems the matainer is not responding, so I don't see any suggested way, but it is considered a bug at the moment. With the freeze happing soon it may be that this part of node.js won't be included in stretch at a newer version and other means will be the only way |
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| 18:22.04 | AciD` | considering npm is a vital part of any web developper, I'd consider this with top priority for the freeze, just saying :) |
| 18:22.04 | somiaj | AciD`: the npm install npm may work, problem is ensure that local vs dpkg files and I don't know node.js well enough as to weither that command will install a new version locally or try to replace the one prodided by dpkg. |
| 18:22.05 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: add access log files to each virtualhost and then use curl to hit them, verify when you hit www.brahrah.com that brahrah's access log adds an entry for your curl |
| 18:22.27 | AciD` | it's local if you do not use the `-g` option |
| 18:22.50 | somiaj | AciD`: webdevelopment worked just fine before node.js so vital is a matter of opinion, though yours it not alone, many have wanted the newer version. You could try to contact the node.js team. |
| 18:23.28 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: if the entry is added to a different access log then you know it isnt hitting the proper vhost due to configuration |
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| 18:24.04 | `Kevin | (name each log file differently ... based on the virtualhost servername) |
| 18:24.41 | Rinpoo | sec |
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| 18:24.59 | `Kevin | does that all make sense regarding how to troubleshoot? |
| 18:26.31 | AciD` | somiaj -> for info : http://paste.debian.net/884006/ |
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| 18:26.55 | somiaj | AciD`: the top of the bug report has a mailing list to can check the archive or email to see what their plan for npm in stretch is |
| 18:27.56 | somiaj | AciD`: logout/backin, the /usr/local/bin/npm should be default in $PATH (echo $PATH to check), but you probably have the wrong path in memory becuase of running npm before the version was installed in /usr/local |
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| 18:28.40 | somiaj | AciD`: and yes that is the prefered way in debian, install it in /usr/local so if the debian package changes it won't overwrite your local intsalled files. Just rember you installed this locally if the debian package every upgrades you will hvae to uninstall the local version. |
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| 18:29.14 | AciD` | somiaj -> yep, using `exit`, then `su -`, then `npm -v` output the 3.* version, thanks |
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| 18:44.31 | t4nk201 | hi i'm installing debian with the network installer. it asksme if what software to install... i want xfce desktop environment but idk if i should install the "debian desktop environment" package too... does it install gnome3? i do not want that if that's the meaning... what should i do? |
| 18:45.07 | greycat | If you're unsure, just don't select it during the installer. Wait until you're booted properly into Debian and then install whatever you want. |
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| 18:46.16 | missmbob | debian desktop just selects gnome by default if it is selected and nothing else is. if you pick xfce and not gnome, then gnome wont be installed even is debian desktop is selected |
| 18:46.29 | greycat | sounds confusing ;-) |
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| 18:47.10 | t4nk201 | missmbob: thank you very much |
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| 18:47.57 | t4nk201 | missmbob: do you know what's inside debian desktop then? |
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| 18:48.32 | missmbob | nothing extra. just the defaulting to gnome if nothing else is selected |
| 18:49.18 | Rinpoo | website 1 log is empty website 2 log has 2 entries |
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| 18:54.38 | Braven | After running a network trace I was able to determine that my server are updating DNS. Are there any option to prevent an interface from registering it's dns? |
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| 18:54.49 | Braven | I mean in DNS |
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| 18:56.12 | greycat | ... it's you again. The guy who is using a Windows DHCP+DNS server. |
| 18:56.53 | Braven | Yeap it's me. We did a trace and it is Server that is updating it records. |
| 18:57.00 | greycat | You were already told to change that setting on the Windows box, and if you *can't* do that, then maybe you can have dhclient *LIE* about your hostname, so your IP address gets assigned to LOLUSUX instead of SERVER23 |
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| 18:58.32 | Braven | So there is no option to tell the Linux server not register a certian interface |
| 18:58.51 | greycat | Linux isn't "registering" anything. |
| 18:58.57 | ipx | Braven, yeah can define *which* interface it listens on |
| 18:59.18 | ipx | default is 0.0.0.0/all |
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| 18:59.27 | greycat | He's got multiple interfaces, one of them static, one DHCP. Windows DHCP/DNS server monstrosity thing. He wants DNS to return his *static* address instead of his DHCP address. |
| 18:59.40 | Braven | no. |
| 18:59.43 | greycat | His debian system is a DHCP client. He has no control. |
| 19:00.12 | Braven | I want linux not register only the static IP |
| 19:00.17 | greycat | ... |
| 19:00.20 | Braven | DHCP |
| 19:00.28 | ipx | ah. /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf "send host-name = HOSTNAME" |
| 19:01.00 | greycat | That would be the "make dhclient lie about your hostname to Windows" answer you were given multiple times. |
| 19:01.01 | Braven | tried that.. Thing is it not send a hostname. |
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| 19:01.38 | ipx | actually, its "send host-name = HOSTNAME;" |
| 19:01.47 | greycat | If the Windows abomination is altering DNS based solely on your recorded hostname (via MAC address???) then you will have to contact the admins of the Windows abomination and tell them to stop that. |
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| 19:02.01 | Braven | So in the network trace.. My server deleting it entry in DNS then updating it |
| 19:02.18 | greycat | *what8 |
| 19:02.29 | Braven | Linux can do this because it part of AD and can prove that it is the host |
| 19:02.30 | teraflops | well use a hammer. put hostname whatever in /etc/rc.local haha |
| 19:02.31 | disi | is there a way to force apt-get to use http? |
| 19:02.44 | greycat | disi: use http sources in sources.list |
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| 19:02.48 | GNU\colossus | is there a graphical utility in Debian that allows for non-technical keeping a directory on a USB stick in sync with variant-copies of the same directory on a number of machines? |
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| 19:04.20 | Braven | So because the linux server it authority over it's DNS record. For some reason it pick the DHCP IP instead of the Static |
| 19:04.38 | greycat | You don't have a linux server. You have a linux client. |
| 19:04.46 | greycat | The rest of your sentences, I can't even parse. |
| 19:04.46 | Braven | So because linux server is part of AD* |
| 19:04.52 | greycat | ESPECIALLY THAT |
| 19:05.00 | disi | greycat: ty |
| 19:05.08 | greycat | Linux has absolutely no knowledge of Windows Active Directory at the DHCP level. |
| 19:05.21 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: re: logs, what curl hostname did you do and what logfile did it end up in |
| 19:06.40 | Braven | Sorry Greycat. I know you are very knowledgable from what I have seen. I am not explaining it correctly. |
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| 19:08.47 | Braven | The linux server is able to change the DNS entry because the dns server integrated into Active Directory. |
| 19:09.00 | greycat | What command are you running to perform this "change"? |
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| 19:11.10 | martman | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc++ |
| 19:11.18 | nemo | GNU\colossus: grsync ? |
| 19:11.21 | martman | anyone know what package i need? i think i have the regular c++ stuff already installed |
| 19:11.37 | nemo | GNU\colossus: it's just a gui to rsync, but rsync seems like the ideal thing for something like this |
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| 19:11.45 | nemo | personally I'd be using a cronjob + rsync but whatev |
| 19:12.01 | nemo | GNU\colossus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/514963/is-there-any-gui-application-for-command-rsync |
| 19:12.06 | nemo | someone also mentions "unison" |
| 19:12.07 | GNU\colossus | nemo, yeah, I'll check it out |
| 19:12.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:12.17 | GNU\colossus | thanks :) |
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| 19:12.36 | `Kevin | martman: g++ ? |
| 19:12.43 | nemo | GNU\colossus: BTW, for automating the remote server work you'll probably need ssh connections with public key auth |
| 19:12.58 | greycat | martman: libstdc++-4.9-dev in jessie |
| 19:13.05 | GNU\colossus | nemo, I guess that tip is for someone else to receive :) |
| 19:13.10 | GNU\colossus | I didn't ask such a question |
| 19:13.12 | greycat | martman: but it should be part of the deps for build-essential |
| 19:13.15 | nemo | GNU\colossus: for the public keys, they'll either have to not have a lock password, or else the lock password stored in some keychain, either the gentoo-origin "keychain" utility or else gnome keychain or something |
| 19:13.26 | nemo | GNU\colossus: you said "on a number of machines" |
| 19:13.43 | nemo | GNU\colossus: you'll need someway to access those machines. usually that is ssh. guess you might be using samba |
| 19:13.45 | GNU\colossus | nemo, ah, yes, I did not make that clear. it's just a number of distinct machines that aren't on the same network |
| 19:13.46 | Braven | http://paste.debian.net/884018/ < -- network trace where Linux server delete it's Dns Entry |
| 19:13.56 | GNU\colossus | it's just a single USB stick moving with the user of those machines |
| 19:13.59 | nemo | GNU\colossus: right.. so ssh is typically the way one does that ⺠|
| 19:14.08 | martman | greycat nope no good |
| 19:14.08 | nemo | oh |
| 19:14.24 | GNU\colossus | I am aware of ssh, but thanks for so gently explaining it again :) |
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| 19:14.47 | nemo | GNU\colossus: heh. well looking for a gui rsync made me think maybe you weren't familiar. sorry. |
| 19:15.05 | nemo | GNU\colossus: so.. the goal is to sync the stuff on the USB key over to the user's home when they plug it in on a new machine? |
| 19:15.06 | GNU\colossus | I'm "asking for a friend", really :D |
| 19:15.22 | qqx | Braven: is there anything in the /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d directory that looks relevant? |
| 19:15.24 | nemo | GNU\colossus: 'cause making something like that work automagically might be best w/ a custom script. |
| 19:15.30 | greycat | $ dpkg -L libstdc++-4.9-dev | grep \\.so |
| 19:15.30 | greycat | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.9/libstdc++.so |
| 19:15.42 | GNU\colossus | nemo, syncing, yes - but not automatically. like MSFT's syntoy does it |
| 19:15.53 | nemo | GNU\colossus: ah. totally unfamiliar w/ syntoy |
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| 19:15.59 | GNU\colossus | I was going for a shellscript with an XDG desktop launcher |
| 19:16.00 | nemo | well. hopefully the ideas in that ubuntu thread help. gl |
| 19:16.01 | unborn | anyone familiar with gpg for emails? |
| 19:16.13 | Braven | http://paste.debian.net/884020/ <--- here it is updating it's DNS entry with the wrong IP |
| 19:16.16 | GNU\colossus | but I'd like to use something that's already proven out there if it's more fancy that that |
| 19:16.20 | ChrisWarrick | How can I poweroff a system as a user in text mode? |
| 19:16.23 | Braven | let me look qqx |
| 19:16.25 | nemo | GNU\colossus: yeah. that's normally what I do. make a launcher and a shellscript, possibly zenity or similar for interaction |
| 19:16.26 | GNU\colossus | nemo, thanks, I'll look at it right away :) |
| 19:16.52 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: shutdown |
| 19:16.56 | greycat | Braven: I don't know what that paste *COMES FROM*. Not even which system, let alone which command you ran to get this output. |
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| 19:17.07 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: or reboot |
| 19:17.23 | ChrisWarrick | nemo: -bash: shutdown: command not found |
| 19:17.26 | Braven | This output is coming from the Windows DNS server |
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| 19:17.35 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: how about reboot? ⺠|
| 19:17.36 | greycat | Braven: THEN WHY DO YOU THINK THE DEBIAN SYSTEM IS DOING IT!>!> |
| 19:17.36 | ChrisWarrick | I wouldnât ask if it was that easy, what is Debian messing with? |
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| 19:17.44 | greycat | glares at the > key |
| 19:17.52 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: usually one or the other is available on any linux machine I've encountered ⺠|
| 19:17.55 | ChrisWarrick | nemo: They live in /sbin |
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| 19:18.03 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: ah. you weren't root? |
| 19:18.07 | ChrisWarrick | nemo: > as a user |
| 19:18.13 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: root is a user ! |
| 19:18.18 | ChrisWarrick | as a regular user |
| 19:18.20 | ChrisWarrick | you are not helping. |
| 19:18.23 | nemo | .. |
| 19:18.37 | ChrisWarrick | How do I shut down a Debian machine without having the root password? |
| 19:18.39 | Braven | Unknown... In windows there just a check box that tell the server not register this interface in AD. I am able to find that in Linux |
| 19:18.43 | greycat | Braven: Please just ASK the Windows server admin to help you. Explain what you want. Make them do their job. |
| 19:18.43 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: add your user to sudoers |
| 19:18.48 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: sudo group that is |
| 19:18.53 | ChrisWarrick | nemo: without sudo? |
| 19:19.01 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: +s the file. but that seems like a bad idea |
| 19:19.19 | nemo | ChrisWarrick: ctrl-alt-del probably works if you're actually physically at the machine I bet |
| 19:19.23 | nemo | from a vt |
| 19:19.26 | ChrisWarrick | nemo: Shut up. |
| 19:19.31 | nemo | sighs |
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| 19:19.40 | ChrisWarrick | Ubuntu, Arch, ⦠have solved this |
| 19:19.49 | ChrisWarrick | probably with some polkit magic |
| 19:20.02 | GNU\colossus | ChrisWarrick, you press the physical power button, and let either acpid or systemdlogind take care of the rest |
| 19:20.11 | GNU\colossus | systemd-logind* |
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| 19:20.53 | Rinpoo | @kevin forgot to use curl I just visited the websites via browser |
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| 19:21.17 | Rinpoo | I've cureld both websites but the hosts one didnt work but I got log entries |
| 19:21.34 | ChrisWarrick | GNU\colossus: Iâm looking for the polkit solution. |
| 19:21.50 | Braven | Sorry GreyCat. I had a case open with Microsoft, i did ask DNS guys. |
| 19:22.10 | `Kevin | Rinpoo: after visiting both sites do both log entires goto the same log file? if so which logfile |
| 19:22.25 | Braven | They don't know how linux select the IP it registers |
| 19:22.27 | GNU\colossus | ChrisWarrick, I assume that for a systemd-powered Debian release, this should hold true? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/allow_users_to_shutdown#Using_systemd-logind |
| 19:22.34 | `Kevin | or do you get entries in both logs files as would be expected |
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| 19:23.57 | Rinpoo | it seem seperate but the curl entry is missing from the brahrah log |
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| 19:24.43 | `Kevin | do you see anything at all going to the brahrah log when visting the site? if not which log file do they show up in |
| 19:24.47 | Rinpoo | the weall log has only the curl entry though |
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| 19:25.07 | Rinpoo | the brahrah log is full |
| 19:25.44 | `Kevin | `full`? |
| 19:25.50 | Rinpoo | y chrome entries |
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| 19:26.18 | Rinpoo | Ill just show you |
| 19:26.36 | `Kevin | i just did a curl did you see it in the brahrah log |
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| 19:28.40 | Rinpoo | http://pastebin.com/feeefUFJ |
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| 19:28.53 | h3207584 | Correct me if I'm wrong, but would it be possible to safely run closed-source programs if one were to apply strong restrictions using SELinux or AppArmor? |
| 19:29.02 | Rinpoo | yes that worked |
| 19:29.15 | Rinpoo | 158.69.80.41 - - [19/Oct/2016:19:27:14 +0000] "HEAD / HTTP/1.1" 200 127 "-" "curl/7.38.0" |
| 19:29.44 | `Kevin | ok so |
| 19:29.58 | `Kevin | the vhost configuration seems to be working |
| 19:30.04 | Rinpoo | yes |
| 19:30.35 | Rinpoo | maybe it's the ssl file like I said earlier? |
| 19:30.40 | Rinpoo | but Im wasted |
| 19:30.51 | Rinpoo | I'm not gonna do much anymore |
| 19:30.56 | Rinpoo | gote go to sleep soon |
| 19:30.59 | Rinpoo | gotta |
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| 19:31.33 | jhutchins_wk | Rinpoo: There comes a point in the day where the work you do is likely to need to be completely redone tomorrow, and you're making negative progress. |
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| 19:34.02 | Rinpoo | yea at least I'm learning a lot |
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| 19:41.55 | neglesaks | Any suggestions on how to upgrade a Deb box which is stuck on Deb 5 with no repository access? |
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| 19:43.08 | greycat | If it's not networked, don't even attempt it. Just leave it. Makes a nice room heater or something. |
| 19:43.46 | neglesaks | well, the 'net apps work. its rather that the package managers / updaters draw a blank :P |
| 19:44.01 | greycat | So you're lying when you say it has no repository access. |
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| 19:44.19 | neglesaks | I do? |
| 19:44.22 | greycat | Point it at the squeeze LTS sources for the 5->6 upgrade, then proceed from there. |
| 19:44.30 | juslintek | how to check if command "wp" exists? |
| 19:44.37 | juslintek | sorry wrong chat |
| 19:44.38 | neglesaks | I'll have to check it again, then. |
| 19:44.39 | greycat | if command -v wp >/dev/null; then ... |
| 19:45.24 | neglesaks | thanks. |
| 19:45.30 | greycat | !squeeze sources.list |
| 19:45.31 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main" "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main". Put "Acquire::Check-Valid-Until false;" in /etc/apt/apt.conf and run «aptitude update». Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze-lts> <squeeze-updates> and "man sources.list". |
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| 19:45.45 | greycat | sorry, archive rather than LTS |
| 19:46.14 | neglesaks | ty. |
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| 19:47.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, squeeze lts ended march, I forgot |
| 19:47.31 | skokkk | hi. I'm new to debian - I need some help start a program on default, the directory must also be set to the program's directory |
| 19:47.45 | greycat | what does "on default" mean? |
| 19:47.52 | skokkk | bootup* |
| 19:48.08 | greycat | Is it a daemon, or something that just runs for a fraction of a second and then stops? |
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| 19:48.30 | skokkk | no, its a shell script that runs in a loop |
| 19:49.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | as root or as a user? |
| 19:49.06 | greycat | Then you'll need to launch it in the background. Something like this, in /etc/rc.local : (cd /wherever && ./myscript &) |
| 19:49.21 | greycat | Unless you want to get fancy and write a systemd unit for it. |
| 19:50.04 | skokkk | I have systemd files, but I can't see a systemd directory in windows.. |
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| 19:50.11 | greycat | in what |
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| 19:50.30 | skokkk | ffs my brain is gone, debian* |
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| 19:50.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's also @reboot in crontab⦠I personally kind of like that |
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| 19:51.00 | greycat | If you're in jessie, custom systemd units go in /etc/systemd/system/ |
| 19:51.02 | skokkk | wait firstly, why can't I apt-get install nano |
| 19:51.15 | somiaj | skokkk: you should be able to, though nano is usually installed by default |
| 19:51.15 | skokkk | this is debian 6 |
| 19:51.21 | greycat | Then you have sysvinit. |
| 19:51.28 | greycat | Use rc.local and be happy. |
| 19:51.53 | skokkk | yeah.. now I need my favorite editor, which I can't get for some reason? |
| 19:51.57 | somiaj | skokkk: if using debian 6 you have to ensure your sources.list point to archive.debian.org as you are using an outdated no longer supported release |
| 19:51.57 | greycat | To install things on squeeze, use the squeeze sources.list that dpkg mentioned a few minutes ago. |
| 19:52.09 | somiaj | rc.local also works with systemd |
| 19:52.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions nano |
| 19:53.00 | judd | Package: nano on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.6-1+b1; jessie: 2.2.6-3; stretch: 2.7.0-1; sid: 2.7.0-1 |
| 19:53.14 | skokkk | what do I replace "deb http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib non-free |
| 19:53.15 | skokkk | " with? |
| 19:53.28 | greycat | squeeze has nano 2.2.4-1 |
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| 19:53.37 | greycat | or at least one of mine does |
| 19:53.54 | greycat | skokkk: /msg dpkg squeeze sources.list |
| 19:53.58 | greycat | it's not just one line to replace |
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| 19:57.07 | lindylex | I am try to create a iso image of a C.D. Where is the C.D. mounted? |
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| 19:57.17 | lindylex | I meant device location? |
| 19:57.23 | greycat | It should not be mounted if you're trying to rip an ISO image of it. |
| 19:57.32 | greycat | Or at least, mounting doesn't gain you anything. |
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| 19:57.36 | lindylex | It is not mounted. |
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| 19:57.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | are you talking about an audio cd? |
| 19:57.52 | lindylex | Yes |
| 19:57.55 | greycat | /dev/sr0 in jessie |
| 19:58.02 | greycat | audio CDs don't have ISO file systems |
| 19:58.08 | skokkk | is systemctl in debian 6? |
| 19:58.10 | greycat | skokkk: no |
| 19:58.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | you cannot make an iso images of an audio cd, because the format on an audio cd is not iso |
| 19:58.27 | skokkk | greycat: how would I "systemctl enable cronie" then? |
| 19:58.28 | greycat | lindylex: what *are* you trying to do? |
| 19:58.43 | lindylex | Create a disk image of the audio cd. |
| 19:58.44 | greycat | skokkk: I don't know what the hell cronie is. |
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| 19:59.02 | Emil | Yo |
| 19:59.02 | lindylex | using dd |
| 19:59.10 | Emil | So mdadm can't find /root device |
| 19:59.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | lindylex, that's not possible⦠google it if you don't believe me⦠|
| 19:59.16 | Emil | so it drops me to shell |
| 19:59.18 | greycat | lindylex: audio CDs don't even have deterministic "images". It's all fuzzy bits that usually come through the same, sort of. |
| 19:59.18 | skokkk | greycat: what is the cron package called in debian then? |
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| 19:59.27 | Emil | How can I update mdadm.conf and update-initramfs? |
| 19:59.34 | skokkk | oh, cron.. |
| 19:59.34 | greycat | skokkk: Jesus fucking christ, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THIS SYSTEM |
| 19:59.37 | Emil | From /bin/sh busybox shell |
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| 19:59.58 | skokkk | greycat: it's my host that did this, not me, it's a fresh machine |
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| 20:00.17 | babilen | A fresh squeeze box? |
| 20:00.20 | greycat | And you think they shipped it to you with the cron daemon DISABLED? Based on what evidence? |
| 20:00.32 | skokkk | greycat: it wasn't installed |
| 20:00.37 | greycat | How do you KNOW this? |
| 20:01.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | hush, no shouting and no running with scissors |
| 20:01.10 | qqx | I'd avoid a host that gives out fresh Debian 6 systems now. |
| 20:01.18 | skokkk | I apt-get install cron and it mentioned "The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 20:01.19 | skokkk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:01.46 | greycat | Kind of a backwards way to see whether a thing is installed, but I guess that qualifies as evidence. :-/ |
| 20:01.56 | greycat | This provider is sounding very like a poor choice. |
| 20:02.10 | radw62 | hello |
| 20:02.38 | skokkk | yes.. now how on earth do I enable this? I'm missing systemd a lot :'( |
| 20:02.58 | greycat | All daemons run by default when they are installed. Unless your provider had it installed, and partially removed it. |
| 20:03.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | can't you get an image of something newer? |
| 20:03.19 | greycat | Installing cron should just WORK. Don't sweat it unless you find that it's NOT working. |
| 20:03.25 | skokkk | CutMeOwnThroat: nope, I have tried and emailed support and everything |
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| 20:03.42 | greycat | I also wouldn't bother installing a lot of stuff before your upgrade to wheezy. |
| 20:03.54 | babilen | skokkk: I would strongly suggest to look into alternatives |
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| 20:04.11 | greycat | Might as well upgrade first, *THEN* install the missing stuff. |
| 20:04.15 | skokkk | babilen: this is the only host that offers DDoS protection |
| 20:04.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | he probably can't upgrade the kernel if it's a vps |
| 20:04.25 | skokkk | CutMeOwnThroat: it is a VPS |
| 20:04.33 | greycat | Even an OpenVZ VPS can run wheezy with no problem |
| 20:04.47 | greycat | $ cat /etc/debian_version; uname -a |
| 20:04.47 | greycat | 7.11 |
| 20:04.47 | greycat | Linux remote 2.6.32-042stab090.5 #1 SMP Sat Jun 21 00:15:09 MSK 2014 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 20:08.09 | cart_man | Hi everyone |
| 20:08.31 | cart_man | How do I install libboost-dev on debian ? I cant seem to add UNIVERSAL to my source.list file |
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| 20:09.28 | missmbob | cart_man: universal is ubuntu. this is #debian |
| 20:09.29 | greycat | I'm afraid to ask what UNIVERSAL means. I bet it's related to Ubuntu somehow. |
| 20:10.28 | cart_man | Ok.... how about we focus on the first question then since that is quite obviously nothing to do with debian |
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| 20:11.04 | greycat | ,v libboost1.55-dev |
| 20:11.05 | judd | Package: libboost1.55-dev on amd64 -- jessie: 1.55.0+dfsg-3 |
| 20:11.34 | skokkk | what is journalctl -xe in debian? |
| 20:12.26 | cart_man | judd: I can not seem to find any of the packages.. I am on a ARM device running wheezy |
| 20:12.27 | judd | No package named 'can' was found in wheezy/amd64. |
| 20:12.51 | greycat | Then you may have to do your own "apt-cache search --names-only libboost dev" on wheezy |
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| 20:43.27 | Emil | How can I remote into a live install? |
| 20:43.44 | greycat | make sure sshd is running, figure out the IP address |
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| 20:44.11 | Emil | I already have a reverse ssh tunnel running |
| 20:44.19 | Emil | but for some reason I get permission denied (publickey) |
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| 20:48.48 | teraflops | Emil: the installer has a "continue the installation through ssh" too |
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| 20:49.00 | Emil | teraflops: Not installing anything |
| 20:49.05 | Emil | trying to recover my broken mdadm conf |
| 20:49.18 | teraflops | well I read install ^ |
| 20:49.20 | teraflops | hehe |
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| 20:50.26 | Emil | ah |
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| 20:50.28 | Emil | my bad :D |
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| 20:50.37 | Emil | Yeah, meant just a live disk |
| 20:50.56 | teraflops | Emil: nah sorry I just misread |
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| 20:52.23 | teraflops | what I dont remember is if you have to edit sshd config to permit root login or not |
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| 20:52.51 | teraflops | I meant while in the installation medium |
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| 20:55.26 | Emil | Managed to get in |
| 20:55.32 | Emil | now on to fixing the bloody mdadm config |
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| 21:14.12 | Emil | Alrighty |
| 21:14.20 | Emil | have / mounted |
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| 21:14.53 | Emil | /boot and swap are not correctly set |
| 21:14.55 | Emil | Which I need to fix |
| 21:15.15 | Emil | So I can just edit /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and then chroot to that mounted system |
| 21:15.25 | Emil | and then run update-initramfs? |
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| 21:27.47 | Braven | I might have found my solution. nsupdate |
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| 22:12.00 | dviv | hi, okular is taking forever to open pdf files. am i missing some package? |
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| 22:16.27 | irn4l | hi |
| 22:16.48 | jmcnaught | dviv: if you open okular from a terminal emulator you may see some errors or other messages that tell you what's going on |
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| 22:19.26 | Resilience | hello to everyone, I am having trouble with hibernate, it seems that it corrupts my fs, and it is related to the kernel 4 series, is there some workaround? |
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| 22:21.07 | jmcnaught | Resilience: before you can workaround something you need to know what the problem is. Can you show us some logs from before and after a hibernate event? And also whatever you're seeing that tells you that your file system is corrupt? |
| 22:21.12 | dviv | this is what i have so far, its still loading https://paste.debian.net/884090/ |
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| 22:23.27 | jmcnaught | dviv: does okular take a long time to start, or just load PDF files? what about other file types or other programs? Details about the session type and how you start it could help too. |
| 22:24.11 | Resilience | jmcnaught, mmm /var /log/syslog or what? what I'm seeing is that when resuming from hibernate state it never load the image and always tries a fsck, then the system finds a corrupted filesytem and then make a fsck "repairing" it (maybe my filesystem is damaged?) |
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| 22:25.18 | jmcnaught | Resilience: so instead of resuming, it does a fresh boot that needs to fsck? |
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| 22:26.06 | Resilience | jmcnaught, right, not sure if it is a "fresh boot" but it does always fsck |
| 22:26.43 | jmcnaught | Resilience: how are you not sure if it is a new boot or resuming the previous boot. Do you not have a session running? |
| 22:26.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think there's even a mechanism to fsck during resume⦠|
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| 22:26.57 | NapoleonWils0n | hi all |
| 22:27.15 | NapoleonWils0n | just installed rxvt-unicode-256color |
| 22:27.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you should know if it boots into your resumed state/session or a new one easily |
| 22:27.29 | NapoleonWils0n | cant seem to change the font size |
| 22:27.52 | NapoleonWils0n | its not picking up the inconsolata for powerline and the font size |
| 22:28.17 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, how are you trying yo change it? |
| 22:28.35 | Resilience | jmcnaught, I have a sesion running (this one) but I am not sure how to kow if it is a fresh boot (it starts trying to load an image, then it fsck's, and then it boot the machine as alwys, loosing all session image, and restarting t as if it was powered up, is it a "fresh" boot?) |
| 22:28.40 | NapoleonWils0n | i manually installed inconsolata in fonts and ran fs-cache |
| 22:29.08 | NapoleonWils0n | also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 22:29.24 | dviv | jmcnaught: other programs starts fine, opening okular alone takes just as long apparently. running xfce right now |
| 22:29.37 | NapoleonWils0n | but inconsolata isnt listed as a terminal font, and if i use apt to install inconsolata it doesnt show up either |
| 22:30.04 | dviv | does not matter the filetype i try to open, it is slow |
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| 22:30.36 | jmcnaught | Resilience: it sounds like it is failing to resume then. If you're on Debian 8 with systemd you can run "journalctl" as root to see log entries for the current boot. There might be messages about this problem at the start of this log. |
| 22:30.59 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, you need to create an .Xresources file and set the urxvt config there, or if you just want to config the font the use the -fn and -fb options |
| 22:31.20 | jmcnaught | dviv: is the problem happening with other KDE programs? It's not clear what it's trying to authenticate. |
| 22:31.35 | NapoleonWils0n | i have an ~/.Xresources with the font and font size |
| 22:31.57 | dviv | no jmcnaught |
| 22:32.10 | dviv | tried krita, kolourpaint |
| 22:32.16 | dviv | they open instantly |
| 22:32.17 | Resilience | jmcnaught, unfortunately I am running systemd-shim, logs are in /var/log/syslog? or where can I find them? |
| 22:32.28 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, ok then do xrdb ~/.Xresources to make it happen |
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| 22:32.36 | NapoleonWils0n | ah yes thats it |
| 22:33.28 | dviv | i think i will install kde just to see if it opens faster |
| 22:33.42 | NapoleonWils0n | aaro thx mate that worked |
| 22:34.00 | NapoleonWils0n | no more large shouty font in the terminal |
| 22:34.04 | jmcnaught | Resilience: look in /var/log/syslog, the output of 'dmesg'. It's up to you to find the part in syslog where the hibernate event happened. |
| 22:34.11 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, np :) |
| 22:34.32 | NapoleonWils0n | strange thing is the spacing seems off |
| 22:34.47 | NapoleonWils0n | very wide spacing compared to same set up on arch |
| 22:35.12 | Resilience | jmcnaught, thanks, I am going to chek it |
| 22:35.27 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, use the letterSpace resource |
| 22:35.57 | NapoleonWils0n | aaro sorry for being dense is that in Xresources |
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| 22:36.25 | jmcnaught | Resilience: i recommend looking for messages from when the previous boot put the computer into hibernate, and also messages from when it resumes or boots. You may find relevant messages in some of the other logs in /var/log too. |
| 22:36.35 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, yes URxvt*letterSpace: -1 |
| 22:36.56 | NapoleonWils0n | just found it on stack cheers mate |
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| 22:39.59 | NapoleonWils0n | tried URxvt*letterSpace: -1 and URxvt.letterSpace: -1 |
| 22:40.13 | NapoleonWils0n | and xrdb ~/.Xresources |
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| 22:40.28 | NapoleonWils0n | but still not looking the same as on arch |
| 22:40.44 | teraflops | URxvt.letterSpace: -1 whan an ugly hack⦠|
| 22:40.50 | teraflops | s/what* |
| 22:40.53 | solrize | is wheezy stlil getting updates? should i worry about the new kernel exploit i've been hearing about? |
| 22:41.16 | NapoleonWils0n | hi teraflops hope your not still trying to sex up your laptop |
| 22:41.21 | teraflops | xD |
| 22:42.01 | NapoleonWils0n | i ran dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 22:42.35 | jmcnaught | solrize: do you know the CVE for the exploit? You can look it up here: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/ . Wheezy is in LTS, which means limited support mostly for server related packages. |
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| 22:42.56 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, paste your Xresources to check it out |
| 22:42.59 | solrize | CVE-2016-7117 |
| 22:43.01 | solrize | looking |
| 22:43.12 | NapoleonWils0n | this is my Xresources |
| 22:43.14 | NapoleonWils0n | https://github.com/NapoleonWils0n/arch-dotfiles/blob/master/.Xresources |
| 22:43.23 | solrize | linux (PTS)wheezy3.2.78-1vulnerable |
| 22:43.39 | NapoleonWils0n | just used my arch setup and install powerline for inconslata |
| 22:43.50 | missmbob | solrize: see the very next line |
| 22:43.52 | NapoleonWils0n | did a fc-cache |
| 22:44.14 | solrize | missmbob, yeah i'm checking my version which is somewhat older |
| 22:44.30 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, define boldFont too |
| 22:44.37 | solrize | i do have security in my apt.sources maybe i just need to reboot |
| 22:44.53 | solrize | there goes my 8 month uptime :/ |
| 22:44.56 | solrize | rebooting |
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| 22:46.10 | jmcnaught | solrize: rebooting won't do a lot of good if you haven't installed the updated pacakge |
| 22:46.20 | solrize | well i did apt-get upgrade |
| 22:46.33 | missmbob | and didn't notice a kernel upgrade? |
| 22:46.43 | missmbob | you're fired |
| 22:46.50 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup is not related at all to Xorg and you don't have to run fc-cache manually (it's useless) |
| 22:46.59 | solrize | i didn't see a kernel upgrade but i see i have a new kernel after the reboot |
| 22:47.12 | NapoleonWils0n | ok cheers teraflops |
| 22:47.23 | solrize | which unfortunately is 3.2.81-2 |
| 22:47.37 | jhutchins_wk | solrize: You can always check the running kernel against what dpkg says is installed. |
| 22:47.38 | NapoleonWils0n | the spacing is like t h i s |
| 22:47.38 | solrize | where the cve page says 3.2.82-1 |
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| 22:48.06 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, got a screenie? |
| 22:48.32 | solrize | ii linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 3.2.81-2 amd64 Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs |
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| 22:48.41 | solrize | could that be a typo in the cve page? |
| 22:48.45 | solrize | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-7117 |
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| 22:50.29 | NapoleonWils0n | maybe it some gnome font setting |
| 22:50.45 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, i'm not sure that font name is correct, check what;s the font name in some other program, an editor maybe |
| 22:50.47 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: urxvt ignores fontconfig at all |
| 22:51.20 | NapoleonWils0n | URxvt*font: xft:Inconsolata\ for\ Powerline:size=13 |
| 22:51.22 | solrize | is there an authoritative way to find out what the latest wheezy kernel is? |
| 22:52.06 | NapoleonWils0n | teraflops any inconsolata alternatives worth looking at |
| 22:52.13 | aaro | NapoleonWils0n, try another font and see if the spacing continues like that |
| 22:52.26 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 22:52.27 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-2) |
| 22:52.39 | teraflops | NapoleonWils0n: I dont use powerline so idk |
| 22:52.50 | somiaj | solrize: are you wantnig this just for knowledge, or do you have a wheezy box you want to check what the latest kernel is from? |
| 22:53.14 | solrize | i have a wheezy box that i just upgraded but there's a mismatch between uname -a and what the cve page says |
| 22:53.25 | NapoleonWils0n | ill try install fonts-inconsolata and remove the powerline version |
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| 22:53.44 | jmcnaught | solrize: because of that mismatch i would consider asking in #debian-lts on OFTC |
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| 22:54.02 | solrize | hmm what's oftc? another irc network? |
| 22:54.05 | somiaj | solrize: what cve page? Do you have the correct security sources needed for wheezy-lts? |
| 22:54.22 | somiaj | solrize: also is the missmatch just because you haven't rebooted on the newer kernel? |
| 22:54.36 | solrize | cve page is https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-7117 says kernel 3.2.82-1 |
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| 22:55.01 | solrize | my security source is deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:55.03 | solrize | is that right? |
| 22:55.07 | NapoleonWils0n | ok fixed it |
| 22:55.29 | solrize | uname -a says i'm running kernel 3.2.81-2 |
| 22:55.29 | somiaj | solrize: run 'apt-get update' then run 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64' (assuming amd64 arch) |
| 22:55.36 | NapoleonWils0n | used fonts-inconsolata and then xrdb ~/.Xresorces |
| 22:55.59 | NapoleonWils0n | thx guys |
| 22:56.03 | solrize | apt-cache policy gets a pile of 500 errors sec |
| 22:56.27 | pikaroo- | ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 22:56.28 | NapoleonWils0n | time to right down the steps so i dont forgot |
| 22:56.30 | somiaj | solrize: 500 errors? You may have a problem in your soruces.list (it might show lots of pinnings at 500 which is default and totally normal) |
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| 22:56.46 | solrize | oh i thought those were http errors |
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| 22:57.39 | somiaj | solrize: seems that tracker page is outdated, the current wheezy kernel seems to be 3.2.82-2 but still put the output of apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 at a pastebin. |
| 22:57.56 | solrize | http://paste.debian.net/884103/ here's policy output |
| 22:58.32 | solrize | brb |
| 22:58.36 | jmcnaught | solrize: 'apt-cache policy linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64' |
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| 22:58.53 | somiaj | solrize: thanks, but follow jmcnaught advise, I thought the metapackage was more specific than that. |
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| 23:01.01 | solrize | http://paste.debian.net/884104/ |
| 23:01.46 | jmcnaught | somiaj: rmadison shows 3.2.81-2 from wheezy-security for me, same with packages.d.o. I suggested asking in the #debian-lts channel on OFTC because of the mismatch between security tracker and what's in the archives |
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| 23:02.25 | jmcnaught | anyways i'm out for a bit, solrize i hope you get to the bottom of this :) also consider upgrading to jessie! |
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| 23:03.07 | somiaj | jmcnaught: yea I wonder if the tracker is having issues with the wheezy-lts sources so when it says wheezy(Security) it is listing the last version provided from the security team before lts. |
| 23:03.09 | solrize | thanks jmcnaught yeah i'll keep at it... i'm scared to upgrade this box to jessie without backing it up first, which means i need to get hold of 2+ TB of backup space so i've been putting it off... |
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| 23:03.45 | somiaj | solrize: you seem to be up to date. I'm unsure why the tracker is showing an outdated version for wheezy(security) |
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| 23:04.16 | solrize | tracker you mean apt-cache? it says 3.2.81-2 which sounds older |
| 23:04.33 | somiaj | solrize: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/data/report |
| 23:04.50 | solrize | oh ok should i still go ask on oftc? |
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| 23:05.22 | somiaj | solrize: Oh i missread it, I saw 3.2.82-2 not 3.2.81-2 (yea it does look older) |
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| 23:06.10 | somiaj | solrize: I would follow that link I gave you and report this issue somewhere like the mailing list |
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| 23:06.35 | solrize | ok i'll see what i can find.. thanks somiaj |
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| 23:08.06 | irn4l | a linux that pays users to use it |
| 23:08.36 | mtn | this idiot just got kicked in the arch channel |
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| 23:08.54 | mtn | what takes a bit to do ;) |
| 23:09.06 | irn4l | yeah |
| 23:09.12 | irn4l | and just got kicked cause im a genious |
| 23:09.27 | somiaj | irn4l: if you don't have a specific debian support question or are not on topic here the same will happen. |
| 23:09.37 | irn4l | not on topic |
| 23:09.43 | irn4l | couldnt be more on topic man |
| 23:09.45 | irn4l | linux |
| 23:09.53 | irn4l | build to pay users to use it |
| 23:10.07 | irn4l | selling themes |
| 23:10.14 | irn4l | and cosmetic stuff |
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| 23:10.58 | solrize | lol |
| 23:12.54 | solrize | reported on oftc awaiting response which tracker page says might take a while |
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| 23:14.42 | somiaj | solrize: yea mostly on irc you get users so trying to get response or info from a matainer of the tracker page may be a bit. I find the mailing lists are far more reliable (though you do have to wait for a reply) |
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| 23:15.29 | solrize | well i should be online most of the afternoon so i figured if i don't hear anything on irc by tonight i can email the list, does that sound like a good plan? |
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| 23:16.12 | somiaj | solrize: thank you for following up on this and reporting it. |
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| 23:16.22 | solrize | np |
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| 23:20.29 | posi | gf |
| 23:20.50 | Emil | hMMMMM |
| 23:20.57 | Emil | adduser is not creating userhome |
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| 23:22.50 | somiaj | Emil: what was the exact command you typed? is /home mounted read-only or something that prevents it from being created? |
| 23:23.51 | Emil | somiaj: adduser user --gecos "" |
| 23:24.20 | Emil | followed by some bad things like adduser user sudo and passwd -d user |
| 23:24.58 | somiaj | Emil: the man page suggest you need to do adduser --gecos "" username -- unsure if order matters (sometimes it does) |
| 23:25.43 | Emil | somiaj: I tried both ways |
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| 23:26.29 | somiaj | I'm not familar with the --gecos option so unsure if it is causing any issue |
| 23:26.34 | somiaj | what if you just 'adduser username' as a test |
| 23:27.19 | rebelgenesis | I'm having issues recording my desktop with vokoscreenrecorder it says it records but when I play the video I just recorded it says there's 0 mins on it and flashes then stops. |
| 23:27.36 | Emil | somiaj: can't, adduser becomes interactive :/ |
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| 23:29.38 | somiaj | Emil: ahh so the --gecos makes it non-interactive? You still need to supply the info it wants. I'm not use to the error, but almost seems like there is issue with how you are using it, but I don't know enough to say much more than that. |
| 23:29.50 | Emil | somiaj: "" supplies the data |
| 23:30.34 | somiaj | it might be supllying no data so no home dir is created as a result. |
| 23:30.39 | somiaj | Emil: what is your end goal (what are you trying to achive)? |
| 23:30.57 | Emil | somiaj: Automating logins to a live installation |
| 23:31.08 | Emil | I'm doing bad boy things with it |
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| 23:31.15 | Emil | Regarding my own security :D |
| 23:31.35 | somiaj | Emil: maybe useradd is what you want, and you want to specify each thing you need (like the homedir to create) |
| 23:31.43 | Emil | Yeah, used it and worked |
| 23:32.18 | somiaj | Emil: you could also suplly the --home /home/user --gecos "" to specifiy the home so it creates it |
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| 23:32.32 | somiaj | (still unsure on the details here as to why it isn't creating the home dir) |
| 23:32.34 | Emil | Did just that |
| 23:32.52 | Emil | It worked until I added the passwd -d option iirc |
| 23:33.02 | Emil | But I cannot see how it could disable home creation |
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