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| 00:12.38 | ^v | im having a bit of an issue :( RAM slots 1 & 2 (labeled on mobo, furthest from CPU) aren't working, they show up in lshw and dmidecode, ive tried re seating them in many different configurations and in every case those two dun work |
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| 00:14.23 | ^v | the full set is always detected in the BIOS |
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| 00:16.30 | OerHeks | 1/2-3/4 or 1/3-2/4 |
| 00:17.01 | OerHeks | sometimes the slots are coloured |
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| 00:18.24 | missmbob | parity is still a thing? |
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| 00:19.30 | pingfloyd | ^v: what's the motherboard make and model? |
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| 00:20.39 | ^v | pingfloyd, GA-970A-UD3P (rev.1) http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4717#ov |
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| 00:22.23 | ^v | OerHeks, slots arent colored, my bad its 1/3 - 2/4 and 2/4 arent working |
| 00:23.52 | pingfloyd | ^v: how many memory modules are you installing? |
| 00:24.22 | ^v | i have 2 4GB modules plus 2 2GB modules of a different brand |
| 00:25.08 | pingfloyd | ^v: are you matching slot 2 with 4 and 1 with 3? |
| 00:25.27 | pingfloyd | ^v: the channels match up every other slot |
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| 00:29.42 | ^v | pingfloyd, brb gonna try again |
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| 00:43.29 | jaggz | is there an alternativer to "checkinstall" for installing some 3rd party software, quickly, without making a debian package myself out of it? |
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| 00:43.42 | jaggz | like: checkinstall pip install foobar |
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| 00:45.00 | TomTomTo1 | why don't you use python virtualenv for installing pip packages? |
| 00:45.14 | jaggz | dunno, never done it |
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| 00:45.55 | TomTomTo1 | then you might want to check it out^^ |
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| 00:46.16 | jaggz | thanks :) |
| 00:46.18 | crazygull | i use virtualvenv (project) thne work within the env |
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| 00:47.05 | jaggz | already used checkinstall now though.. it seems to be nice and pretty.. and then I have a nice globally-accessible python package |
| 00:47.35 | jaggz | I presume virtualenv can be setup to work in my own user's homedir, for all python scripts run by the user? |
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| 00:48.12 | TomTomTo1 | yes. virtualenv basically creates a development environment where you can install and test things without affecting the global system. |
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| 00:48.37 | crazygull | you need to have the virtual env activated to use hte packages though? |
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| 00:49.34 | TomTomTo1 | you create it inside a directory. |
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| 00:51.39 | ^v | pingfloyd, so when i have them alternating i get 6GB (closest two modules), when i have them grouped together i get 8GB or 4GB when 2GB modules are closest |
| 00:52.12 | pingfloyd | ^v: is dual channel memory mode enabled in the bios? |
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| 00:52.42 | ^v | yep |
| 00:52.57 | ^v | unless my CMOS randomly reset |
| 00:53.08 | pingfloyd | I'd check it |
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| 00:55.42 | pingfloyd | also, are there any differences between the pairs of modules you're matching up in the channels? (differences in capacity, brand, speed, etc.) |
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| 01:13.49 | ^v | pingfloyd, double checked, reset CMOS, nothing |
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| 02:05.07 | plorph | what is the best way to install libdb4.8 and libdb4.8++ on debian 8? i know they are outdated but I need it for buildling bitcoin |
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| 02:09.25 | roylapra1tep | Goodbye to all of you. Switching to RapidSeedbox since they have a slot in Camada for me. Feral and my ISP doesn't like each other, very slow speed. |
| 02:09.32 | roylapra1tep | Canada* |
| 02:10.00 | roylapra1tep | plorph: You can't. |
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| 02:10.22 | roylapra1tep | plorph: You will have conflict. |
| 02:10.32 | plorph | figures. seems i can compile it manually |
| 02:11.04 | roylapra1tep | Brrr. |
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| 02:12.34 | roylapra1tep | sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler libqrencode-dev |
| 02:12.37 | roylapra1tep | try this. |
| 02:12.54 | roylapra1tep | You want the graphical install ? |
| 02:13.19 | plorph | for bitcoin? nah im just doing terminal |
| 02:14.02 | roylapra1tep | sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf libssl-dev libboost-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-system-dev libboost-test-dev libboost-thread-dev |
| 02:14.12 | roylapra1tep | for Bitcoind. |
| 02:14.24 | roylapra1tep | bitcoin-core* |
| 02:14.54 | roylapra1tep | then add this to your sources.list |
| 02:14.56 | roylapra1tep | deb http://[your favorite repository]/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 02:14.56 | roylapra1tep | deb-src http://[your favorite repository]/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 02:15.10 | roylapra1tep | then, apt-get install libdb4.8++-dev libdb4.8-dev |
| 02:15.16 | missmbob | uh, what? |
| 02:15.27 | plorph | ok i tried the sqeeze and i had errors |
| 02:15.35 | missmbob | yeah, that's not going to work |
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| 02:15.56 | roylapra1tep | cd /root git clone -b 0.13 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.git cd bitcoin/ |
| 02:16.03 | roylapra1tep | try it and follow me. |
| 02:16.08 | missmbob | holy hell you just have vomit of the mouth |
| 02:16.13 | roylapra1tep | it will w ork. |
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| 02:16.26 | jmcnaught | missmbob: is there another kind? |
| 02:16.39 | roylapra1tep | i did it and it worked. |
| 02:16.42 | roylapra1tep | jesus-christ... |
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| 02:23.10 | roylaprattep | Damn. |
| 02:23.15 | roylaprattep | Wrong channel, sorry guys! |
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| 03:01.40 | roylaprattep | plorph: So, it worked? ;) |
| 03:02.12 | plorph | yes, it worked. thanks roylaprattep :D |
| 03:02.54 | roylaprattep | plorph: NP! |
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| 03:29.59 | n-iCe | do it in your motd window, status window |
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| 03:32.00 | TheMariuz | hello folks... theres developed an invoice application for norwegians (norways accounting makes programs like gnucash unusable) and it should be added to the debian repository... there are currently no such app avaliable in the repositories and this would increase usability alot for people from my country.. how do i accomplish this? |
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| 03:55.40 | scarekr0w | hi, can anyone tell me how to register my nickname please |
| 03:56.03 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell TheMariuz about rfp |
| 03:56.19 | jmcnaught | TheMariuz: check the message from dpkg about requests for packinging |
| 03:56.56 | jmcnaught | scarekr0w: "/msg nickserv help register" and there is also a #freenode channel for IRC network help |
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| 04:12.37 | SmileyVW | https://www.darkmoon.me/2016/nice-german-lady-punished-for-asking-where-did-6-millions-jews-die-video-5-29-mins/ |
| 04:12.55 | SmileyVW | "You can damn well bet the average Jew has been just as deceived by the lies as has the average Anglo-European NON-Jew. It is an indictment upon those whoâve been informed by Ms. Haverbeck that an outrage has not been loudly expressed about her incarceration." |
| 04:13.41 | Rusty1_ | somiaj: |
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| 04:16.07 | Olsenwowers | Ursula Haverbeck is now faced criminal hate speech charges after debating how many Jews died in the Holocaust on national television. The debate was aired on German public television and broadcast all over Europe. It was the first time anyone has been allowed to question the official holocaust death toll on German television. |
| 04:16.38 | television | meow |
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| 04:38.33 | foul_owl | Hi folks. I'm trying to install a package from backports but it seems to not resolve the deps correctly |
| 04:40.12 | jmcnaught | foul_owl: can you show the command and output in a paste? |
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| 04:54.35 | foul_owl | http://pastebin.com/nLaBdF3v |
| 04:54.43 | foul_owl | Thanks! |
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| 04:55.00 | foul_owl | I can manually install the single dep, but it could go on like this... |
| 04:55.09 | foul_owl | There must be a command that resolves the deps |
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| 04:59.52 | princessstein | Ursula Haverbeck is now facing criminal hate speech charges after debating how many Jews died in the Holocaust on national television. The debate was aired on German public television and broadcast all over Europe. It was the first time anyone has been allowed to question the official "Holocaust" death toll on German television. |
| 05:00.14 | princessstein | https://www.darkmoon.me/2016/nice-german-lady-punished-for-asking-where-did-6-millions-jews-die-video-5-29-mins/ |
| 05:00.31 | polyzen | good to know |
| 05:00.36 | princessstein | You can damn well bet the average Jew has been just as deceived by the lies as has the average Anglo-European NON-Jew. It is an indictment upon those whoâve been informed by Ms. Haverbeck that an outrage has not been loudly expressed about her incarceration. |
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| 05:02.21 | TomTomTo1 | foul_owl: you should enable the i386 architecture if you are on an amd64 system and want to use wine. |
| 05:02.32 | foul_owl | Currently using wine |
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| 05:02.45 | Kaleene | https://www.darkmoon.me/2016/nice-german-lady-punished-for-asking-where-did-6-millions-jews-die-video-5-29-mins/ |
| 05:02.51 | foul_owl | I'm just trying to install the lastet version from the backports |
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| 05:03.25 | TomTomTo1 | foul_owl: oh, don't pass the version number to apt-get, use -t jessie-backports |
| 05:03.44 | foul_owl | Ahhhhhhhhh |
| 05:03.46 | foul_owl | ok perfect |
| 05:03.48 | foul_owl | Let me try |
| 05:04.04 | foul_owl | Perfect! |
| 05:04.06 | foul_owl | Thanks! |
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| 05:04.10 | TomTomTo1 | ^^ |
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| 05:24.27 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Is there anyone here who can walk me through setting up Apache? I altered /sites-available/000-default.conf and restarted apache, however, I'm now getting "Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server." I put /home/me/Documents/fantasy as the DocumentRoot, not / |
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| 05:29.09 | epsilon | Lady_Aleena: guess file permission issue, apache runs as www-data, but that user can't access /home/me/Documents/fantasy |
| 05:30.07 | Lady_Aleena | epsilon, how do I fix that? |
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| 05:42.22 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, now I changed a line in apache2.conf, it seems to want to load my site, except the browser tries to get me to download the index.pl instead of loading it in the browser. |
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| 05:45.34 | bibble_ | https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/wiki (Debian testing/unstable) |
| 05:45.49 | bibble_ | is that the best way to install latest for Jessie ? |
| 05:46.32 | bibble_ | so add testing to source.list, then apt-get install -t testing rtorrent ? |
| 05:47.27 | jmcnaught | bibble_: no |
| 05:47.53 | jmcnaught | bibble_: you can't mix testing and stable. https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 05:48.11 | bibble_ | see. thanks jmcnaught |
| 05:48.39 | jmcnaught | ,v rtorrent |
| 05:48.40 | judd | Package: rtorrent on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.2-1; wheezy: 0.9.2-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2; sid: 0.9.6-2 |
| 05:49.02 | bibble_ | seems recent enough ? ..latest 0.9.6 |
| 05:49.08 | jmcnaught | bibble_: is there that big a difference between the version in jessie and the one in stretch? |
| 05:49.32 | bibble_ | don't think really. ..and would definitely prefer to use stable |
| 05:49.42 | TomTomTo1 | Lady_Aleena: i'm sure you can find instructions on how to enable perl cgi in apache. |
| 05:49.47 | jmcnaught | bibble_: if there's a missing feature or something, you can try to backport the package, but it's extra effort |
| 05:50.24 | bibble_ | right, thanks jmcnaught judd . will just do a normal install :) |
| 05:50.35 | Lady_Aleena | TomTomTo1, I just tried adding ExecCGI in apache2.conf, but that caused apache2.service to fail to restart. |
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| 05:50.59 | Lady_Aleena | Also apache doesn't support Debian's apache configuration. |
| 05:51.04 | TomTomTo1 | you also need to install some packages. |
| 05:51.30 | Lady_Aleena | So, I have to come to Debian to get help with their version of Apache. |
| 05:52.07 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: the details of Debian's apache config are in /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz |
| 05:52.52 | Lady_Aleena | I have already installed libapache2-mod-perl2 |
| 05:53.48 | Lady_Aleena | It should be as simple as changing the DocumentRoot. |
| 05:54.14 | preaction | Lady_Aleena: you meant you tried Options +ExecCGI, correct? |
| 05:54.33 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, I will try again. |
| 05:54.40 | preaction | mod_perl2 isn't related to cgi. so you either need mod_cgi or mod_perl2 |
| 05:55.22 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, Job for apache2.service failed. See 'systemctl status apache2.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. |
| 05:55.36 | preaction | Lady_Aleena: if it fails again, get the error message from the error log, or do apache2ctl -t |
| 05:55.43 | preaction | right so check those things it told you to check |
| 05:56.16 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, http://paste.debian.net/842953/ |
| 05:57.05 | preaction | no. "Options +ExecCGI". Apache configs are "<directive> <argument1> <argument2>..." |
| 05:57.25 | preaction | so line 2 should be "Options +ExecCGI Indexes FollowSymlinks" |
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| 05:58.58 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, apache2 still fails to restart. |
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| 05:59.23 | preaction | so check the things it told you to check! |
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| 06:01.03 | preaction | also check the apache error log: /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 06:03.12 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, okay, how do I make it so I can view all logs without sudo? I tried "sudo cd apache2/" but "sudo: cd: command not found" |
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| 06:03.50 | preaction | cd isn't a command, it's a shell built-in. that's why you can't "sudo cd". you can get a root "shell" by doing just "sudo -i" |
| 06:04.16 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, is it normal to hide logs? |
| 06:04.27 | preaction | yes. sensitive things can be in logs |
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| 06:05.29 | preaction | i mean, the apache logs, probably not so much, but auth.log or secure.log (different distros have different names) can have some important stuff in there |
| 06:05.58 | Lady_Aleena | http://paste.debian.net/842964/ <-error log |
| 06:06.13 | preaction | but if you wanted to keep the usernames on your site private, you'd need to keep the apache access logs (and likely error logs) private. a un/pw combo is two things that need to be known for someone to gain access. give them the un, then they only need one thing |
| 06:06.16 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: you can say cat/less each log indvidually with sudo. |
| 06:06.28 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: add your user to the adm group if you want to be able to read logs without being root |
| 06:06.51 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, how do I do that? |
| 06:07.01 | preaction | Lady_Aleena: alright, and then what does "apache2ctl -t" say? |
| 06:07.08 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: "adduser username adm" and then logout, login |
| 06:08.27 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, http://paste.debian.net/842976/ |
| 06:08.40 | preaction | whatever apache2ctl -t ends up saying is, i expect, the same things 'systemctl status apache2.service' and 'journalctl -xn' would say, but i don't know anything about systemd at all |
| 06:08.52 | preaction | ah. of course. |
| 06:09.48 | preaction | Lady_Aleena: so, the + on +ExecCGI is what it's referring to. you can either: remove that + (i don't recommend) or add a + to Indexes and FollowSymlinks (so it's Options +ExecCGI +Indexes +FollowSymlinks) |
| 06:09.51 | Lady_Aleena | preaction, I just added + to everything. |
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| 06:10.50 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I will reboot in as soon as I can get my site loaded into the browser. |
| 06:11.05 | jmcnaught | the error in the paste is about apache2.conf, not sites-available/000-detault.conf |
| 06:11.09 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: why reboot? |
| 06:11.18 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, the last time I logged out, I just got a blank screen with no way back in. |
| 06:11.27 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I caught that. |
| 06:11.53 | Lady_Aleena | logging out eq reboot |
| 06:12.04 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: that ain't right |
| 06:12.13 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, that's the way it is. |
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| 06:13.03 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: if you don't want to fix that problem right now, you should come back another time to fix it |
| 06:13.39 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I'm here to fix apache localhost loads my local version of my site. |
| 06:13.57 | jmcnaught | if you can get to a virtual terminal when that happens, i bet "systemctl restart display-manager" would fix it |
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| 06:14.37 | Lady_Aleena | Should I just run all of these: a2enmod, a2ensite, a2enconf? |
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| 06:14.49 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, fix what? |
| 06:15.15 | preaction | if there isn't a reason to run those programs, then there's no need to run them |
| 06:15.27 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: i never edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. I do everything in virtualhost files in /etc/apache2/sites-available, and general configs in /etc/apache2/confs-available |
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| 06:15.45 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: restarting your display manager would let you log back in, i bet |
| 06:16.05 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, when do I type that in? |
| 06:16.14 | Lady_Aleena | before or after I log out? |
| 06:17.00 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: those commands a2enmod etc, are for symlinking configs from /etc/apache2/mods-available to mods-enabled. This stuff is covered in the apache2 package's README.Debian.gz |
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| 06:17.30 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: you would restart your display manager when you are having the problem, so after you log out. run it from a virtual terminal |
| 06:18.16 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I told you, all I have is a blank screen, not even a blinking cursor when I log out, so I just reboot. |
| 06:18.40 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: do you try to go to a virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+f1? |
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| 06:19.43 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, so far I've just pushed the button to restart my computer. I keep forgetting about c-a-f1. |
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| 06:25.20 | Lady_Aleena | finding README.Debian.gz now. This will take a while. |
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| 06:26.25 | Lady_Aleena | I take it more README.Debian.gz is not the way to read this? |
| 06:27.33 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: use zless |
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| 06:28.33 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I found it on the web first. |
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| 06:29.11 | Lady_Aleena | Um, it only has one instance of the word perl, but only in the word proPERLy. |
| 06:29.57 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: it explains the Debian way of configuring apache |
| 06:30.51 | Lady_Aleena | And I guess copying my apache2 directory from my old drive over won't help. |
| 06:31.41 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: some of the individual files might help, but if the old drive was from wheezy then the overall layout has changed a bit |
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| 06:32.06 | Lady_Aleena | Why did Debian devs do away with httpd.conf? |
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| 06:34.32 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: because enormous config files are ridiculous and easier to read and manage if broken up into individual files. It also allows for other packages to drop apache config files into /etc/apache2/conf-available for easy apache integration for web applications |
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| 06:39.07 | Lady_Aleena | ACK! I just ran a2enmod cgi, restarted apache, and my site still won't load. |
| 06:39.29 | maziar | my debian machine is no response without no reason ! even from ESXI console i can not connect to it !, and ssh is not work, how can i check the reason of this problem ? |
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| 06:41.17 | jelly-home | maziar: do you see anything at the console, if you press a key or two? does it answer to ping? |
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| 06:43.09 | DzamoNorton | jell |
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| 06:43.25 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: are you using ScriptAlias? |
| 06:43.40 | maziar | jelly-home i said no answer to any thing even in console or ping |
| 06:43.57 | maziar | after hard restart i should check which log |
| 06:44.28 | DzamoNorton | Client: HexChat 2.12.0 ⢠OS: Debian stretch/sid ⢠CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3317U CPU @ 1.70GHz (964MHz) ⢠Memory: Physical: 7.3 GiB Total (6.3 GiB Free) Swap: 4.8 GiB Total (4.8 GiB Free) ⢠Storage: 57.4 GB / 248.1 GB (190.7 GB Free) ⢠VGA: 8086:0166 @ 8086:0154 ⢠Uptime: 1h 52m 34s |
| 06:45.43 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/cgi.html the LoadModule stuff should be handled by the files in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled. You should also consider trying that libapache2-mod-perl2 module, which probably also has a /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-perl2/README |
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| 06:46.30 | jelly-home | maziar: you could try to Alt-SysRq-b at the console if possible. Be very careful not to boot your own workstation if you're on linux |
| 06:46.46 | jelly-home | maziar: that would at least confirm the kernel was alive |
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| 06:47.47 | jelly-home | maziar: after reboot, look at /var/log/kern.log but there may not be anything useful |
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| 06:47.58 | maziar | jelly-home , did you read my question ? i dont want a solution, i want to check why it happens and i need a log file that contain this problem reason ! |
| 06:48.28 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I installed libapache2-mod-perl2. |
| 06:48.35 | jelly-home | maziar: which esxi version, and which debian release on the guest? |
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| 06:49.13 | jmcnaught | maziar: /var/log/syslog or 'journalctl --boot -1 -n' to see last few lines of previous boot's journal |
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| 06:51.38 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: i've never used that module but it has a user's guide: https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/index.html |
| 06:52.07 | Lady_Aleena | I just put LoadModule cgid_module modules/mod_cgid.so into apache2.conf, restarted apache2, and my scripts still won't load in the browser. |
| 06:52.25 | maziar | jmcnaught Failed to look up boot -1: Cannot assign requested address |
| 06:52.26 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: why did you put that in apache2.conf? |
| 06:53.02 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, why not? It is the main conf file. |
| 06:53.18 | jmcnaught | maziar: see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian for how to enable persistent boot, or look for messages in /var/log/syslog |
| 06:53.35 | Lady_Aleena | Also, directions on apache's site all say httpd.conf, not debian's burst out confs. |
| 06:54.00 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: because that's not how you configure apache on Debian. You should do "a2enmod cgid" |
| 06:54.23 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I did. |
| 06:54.24 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: this is why i asked you to read that README.Debian.gz file, so you would understand the differences |
| 06:54.49 | Lady_Aleena | sudo a2enmod cgid has been done for about 15 minutes. |
| 06:55.01 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: the files in /etc/apache2/mods-available are text files that you can read to see what they say |
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| 06:56.02 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: if you're going to use mod_perl2, i would disable the cgi and cgid modules |
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| 06:57.13 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a way to reset and start from scratch? I've done so much in the last hour, I don't remember what I did. |
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| 06:57.18 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: and where ever apache upstream docs say to add something to httpd.conf, if it's specific to a site it goes in a file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/. If it's a module, the package will have made a file in mods-available for you to a2enmod |
| 06:57.46 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell Lady_Aleena about confnew |
| 06:58.18 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, will that just reset the conf for apache or all my confs? |
| 06:59.03 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: the commands dpkg just told you about only work on the packages you list in the command |
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| 07:01.10 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, http://paste.debian.net/842978/ |
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| 07:02.42 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: the command dpkg told you about was 'apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install apache2' |
| 07:03.22 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: alternatively you can purge the package, and then reinstall it (after making sure /etc/apache2 is gone) |
| 07:04.43 | Lady_Aleena | rebooting |
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| 07:07.32 | pragomer_1 | how can I check what grafics driver is used? |
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| 07:08.12 | jmcnaught | pragomer_1: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 07:10.51 | pragomer_1 | http://pastebin.com/yanhpf32 |
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| 07:10.54 | pragomer_1 | what is my driver? |
| 07:12.01 | jmcnaught | pragomer_1: ctrl+f 'driver' |
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| 07:14.19 | pragomer_1 | sorry.. dont find it... "driver" of course.. but not about my graphics card |
| 07:14.24 | pragomer_1 | sorry I am beginner |
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| 07:15.33 | Guest54189 | which graphics card do u have ? |
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| 07:15.48 | Guest54189 | fdasfasdf |
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| 07:16.31 | pragomer_1 | when I do lspci | grep -i vga its this: |
| 07:16.41 | pragomer_1 | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) |
| 07:17.04 | tx | yes |
| 07:17.14 | tx | you have an iGPU that is built in to your Xeon CPU. |
| 07:17.45 | tx | er |
| 07:17.56 | pragomer_1 | yes.. I wanted to determine if I could install a proprietary driver for gaming or if noveau driver is used |
| 07:18.07 | tx | Noveau is used for Nvidia products. |
| 07:18.18 | pragomer_1 | oh.. only for nvidia? did not know that |
| 07:18.24 | TomTomTo1 | pragomer_1: this is the driver you use. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 07:18.41 | tx | Indeed. |
| 07:18.54 | pragomer_1 | so.. it is a free or a propr. driver? |
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| 07:19.04 | TomTomTo1 | it's the free intel driver. |
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| 07:19.30 | pragomer_1 | ok. thank you. and do you think it could be worth, for gaming, to search for an driver by intel? |
| 07:19.39 | tx | lol |
| 07:19.43 | pragomer_1 | or isnt the difference that much? |
| 07:19.51 | tx | If you want to game I suggest getting a deciated graphics card |
| 07:19.56 | tx | otherwise no, not really |
| 07:20.01 | TomTomTo1 | never had any issues with the free intel driver. |
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| 07:20.09 | tx | has had heaps |
| 07:20.23 | tx | I found one the other day actually, enabling TearFree prevents you from rotating screens using xrandr :0 |
| 07:20.52 | pragomer_1 | ok.. I think the chip would be enough for the game I want to play under debian (Gothic3).. but I have graphic issues (no text in menu, black world) and I wanted to test it with some different drivers |
| 07:21.00 | pragomer_1 | but ok.. so I have to look for another solution |
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| 07:25.02 | Lady_Aleena | The reboot didn't help my apache problem. |
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| 07:30.14 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, "sudo apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install apache2" did not overwrite my apache2 conf files. |
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| 07:32.17 | Lady_Aleena | I'm submitting the question to the forum to give you all a break. |
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| 07:42.11 | michael2903 | Hello |
| 07:43.05 | michael2903 | I have an issue with apt preferences, pinning refuses to work despite the doc and there are no logs :( |
| 07:44.11 | michael2903 | #flood |
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| 07:44.56 | TomTomTo1 | use http://paste.debian.net instead, please. |
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| 07:48.17 | michael2903 | you can see my details http://paste.debian.net/842993 |
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| 08:01.35 | logithack1337 | when i start minecraft, i get to the menu. when i hover over an in-game button, say Options, it becomes highlighted. however, when i click it, nothing happens. any ideas? |
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| 08:03.24 | TomTomTo1 | michael2903: for the originator you would have to check the release file, it's an optional field. for pinning an archive you would use for example Pin: release a=jessie-experimental |
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| 08:10.10 | michael2903 | @TomTomTo1: oh I see |
| 08:10.17 | TomTomTo1 | michael2903: here for example http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian8.6/Release o= and l= reference the Origin and Label field in the Release file. |
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| 08:11.19 | michael2903 | TomTomTo1: yes I saw the Release file and the values in my preferences matched the Release file |
| 08:13.14 | michael2903 | TomTomTo1: now, I have an issue and don't know if I can solve without rebuilding my repo. I mirrored jessie repo (so a=jessie) and my company own repo has also a=jessie, should I change my company repo to a=jessie-company? |
| 08:13.36 | michael2903 | that was the point of using o= and l= actually :) |
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| 08:15.43 | TomTomTo1 | it would be easy if your company put a different label in the release file. if that's a copy of a debian release file i'm not sure. |
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| 08:17.10 | TomTomTo1 | "o=company jessie" doesn't look like a valid origin. |
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| 08:19.44 | michael2903 | the official jessie mirror I have looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/843006/ |
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| 08:19.56 | michael2903 | (in /var/lib/apt/lists) |
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| 08:21.51 | TomTomTo1 | mine just has "Debian" for both^^ |
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| 08:26.49 | TomTomTo1 | michael2903: mind trying Pin: release a=company-experimental, n=jessie-experimental ? |
| 08:27.51 | TomTomTo1 | michael2903: n= stands for codename from what i can gather from man apt_preferences |
| 08:27.55 | dionysus69 | how can windows be so annoying |
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| 08:28.37 | dionysus69 | it is a poor joke of an os, doesnt even have option to optionally download or not to download updates... lol |
| 08:29.21 | michael2903 | I guess you mean win10 ;) win7/8 did allow this |
| 08:29.23 | jelly-home | dionysus69: #debian-offtopic is over there --> |
| 08:29.29 | dionysus69 | haha |
| 08:29.46 | dionysus69 | i know was just kind of a trolling joke, but really! |
| 08:30.15 | jelly-home | yes really |
| 08:30.34 | th0r | jelly-home, if you feed the troll he will never leave |
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| 08:31.17 | michael2903 | TomTomTo1: I guess my repo is not built as it should :( codename: jessie for official debian and own repo |
| 08:31.28 | jelly-home | th0r: everyone gets a warning first, if they behave all is fine |
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| 08:32.03 | michael2903 | TomTomTo1: but nevermind, I'll fix our repo |
| 08:33.24 | jelly-home | michael2903: if you showed your actual Release files, or output of "apt-cache policy", maybe someone could suggest a better approach |
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| 08:34.49 | michael2903 | something like this: http://paste.debian.net/843009/ |
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| 08:35.45 | michael2903 | the two first repos are from our company. The third one is an internal mirror of official Debian |
| 08:35.55 | jelly-home | and "apt-cache policy" ? |
| 08:36.28 | michael2903 | here: http://paste.debian.net/842993 |
| 08:37.09 | jelly-home | no output of command «apt-cache policy» in there |
| 08:37.39 | jelly-home | michael2903: just "apt-cache policy" not "apt-cache policy something" |
| 08:37.45 | michael2903 | oh |
| 08:37.56 | jelly-home | hence the quutes. |
| 08:38.03 | jelly-home | can't spell today |
| 08:38.39 | jelly-home | it's also nice because it shows you potential things to pin on |
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| 08:39.09 | michael2903 | didn't even know we can do it without any package, very useful |
| 08:39.10 | michael2903 | http://paste.debian.net/843010/ |
| 08:39.34 | TomTomTo1 | i think the second pin should be a=jessie instead of a=company |
| 08:40.17 | TomTomTo1 | and the first simply a=jessie-experimental |
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| 08:43.19 | TomTomTo1 | ah, you already fixed that one^^ |
| 08:44.26 | jelly-home | I'm not exactly sure Origin may contain a space |
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| 08:45.19 | michael2903 | it shouldn't, apt-cache warns about it when I use it without any package |
| 08:45.26 | michael2903 | "W: Did not understand pin type o=jessie-backports" |
| 08:46.04 | michael2903 | needs a BIG coffee to avoid typos in cfg files |
| 08:46.22 | TomTomTo1 | the archive is jessie-backports, not the origin |
| 08:46.45 | TomTomTo1 | and the official jessie-backports release file has spaces too http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-backports/Release |
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| 08:47.39 | michael2903 | tadam, I took the output from "apt-cache policy" to get the right syntax of "o=,a=,etc" and I put it in apt_prefenreces and pinning works as I was expecting :D |
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| 08:48.02 | michael2903 | you guys are magic :) |
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| 08:57.11 | dionysus69 | jelly-home: i am not a troll btw i am always online in this channel wtf I am using debian :D |
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| 08:58.26 | jelly-home | dionysus69: which is why I didn't say you were a troll |
| 08:58.44 | dionysus69 | th0r did so I thought you believed him xD |
| 08:59.20 | jelly-home | that's usually what trolls say about others! |
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| 09:10.26 | boxrick1 | With group permissions alone ( without owning a file ) is it possible to delete it? |
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| 09:11.35 | ksk | boxrick1: that depends on the rights of the directory the file is in. but yes, group permissions do the job ;) |
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| 09:12.07 | boxrick1 | So what assumptions would need to be made of the directory the file is in? |
| 09:12.14 | boxrick1 | If that was also owned by the group |
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| 09:13.08 | ksk | you need +w to that dir if i remember correctly. just give it a try? |
| 09:13.22 | ksk | sticky bit an option for you? |
| 09:13.25 | ksk | !tell boxrick1 about sticky bit |
| 09:14.23 | boxrick1 | Ok cool, So on that basis, is there any real need for Advanced ACL much of the time? |
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| 09:19.24 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 09:24.18 | boxrick1 | Howdy |
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| 09:24.31 | boxrick1 | I have a file with the following permissions: |
| 09:24.32 | boxrick1 | -rwx------ 1 bob bob |
| 09:24.50 | boxrick1 | So that tells me bob can read write and execute |
| 09:24.55 | boxrick1 | And in theory no one else can |
| 09:25.08 | bibble_ | right |
| 09:25.09 | boxrick1 | bob is also a member of bobgroup |
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| 09:25.19 | boxrick1 | As is bob2 |
| 09:25.26 | boxrick1 | I su to bob2 and can delete those files. |
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| 09:25.46 | boxrick1 | I assume this is something to do with the directory above then ? |
| 09:25.57 | bibble_ | strange. wouldn't have thought bob2 could |
| 09:26.21 | boxrick1 | the folder these are is in the group bobgroup |
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| 09:26.55 | bibble_ | even with parent dir settings. if deleted folder had no group permissions for bob2, then still seems strange |
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| 09:28.05 | boxrick1 | It was a file rather than a folder |
| 09:28.10 | boxrick1 | Within a folder ofc |
| 09:28.16 | bibble_ | is it related to the executable bit x. can bob2 still delete with just rw ? |
| 09:28.32 | boxrick1 | Ill give it a go |
| 09:28.38 | bibble_ | cool |
| 09:30.18 | boxrick1 | Oddly even with 000 octal permissions bob2 can still delete |
| 09:30.22 | boxrick1 | Something is weird here |
| 09:30.37 | boxrick1 | rm: remove write-protected regular empty file 'file'? I do get though |
| 09:30.57 | bibble_ | hmm, weird.. |
| 09:31.09 | boxrick1 | This is in /tmp I wonder if that is affecting it here |
| 09:31.24 | bibble_ | perhaps also dependant on umask of the users |
| 09:31.37 | bibble_ | whatever that's set to |
| 09:32.01 | boxrick1 | umask only sets default permissions though, if I am modding with chmod it shouldn't matter |
| 09:32.13 | bibble_ | see |
| 09:32.56 | darxmurf | it's related to the parent folder permission I would say |
| 09:33.09 | darxmurf | if you try to vim the file and add text you won't be able to save it |
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| 09:33.31 | darxmurf | but as bob got the access rights on the parent folder he is able to delete the file |
| 09:33.51 | darxmurf | if you chmod 000 the file you can't even reat it isn't it ? |
| 09:34.08 | bibble_ | should be |
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| 09:36.13 | bibble_ | mount permissions too perhaps |
| 09:37.28 | bezaban | when you delete, move or rename a file it is only checked towards rights to modify the parent directory, not the file itself |
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| 09:38.00 | darxmurf | voilà :-) |
| 09:38.01 | bezaban | tmp is special with regards to sticky bit, but the key to this issue is what rights you are working against |
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| 09:39.02 | bibble_ | interesting |
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| 09:42.34 | mrrhq | using tmpfiles.d with systemd is still rather confusing for me. Especially when programs require /var/tmp instead of /tmp to be set correctly (mpd). |
| 09:42.44 | boxrick1 | So in this case the user cannot modify the file as you said but can delete it |
| 09:42.49 | mrrhq | Not to go off topic, but yeah, sticky bits are cancer. |
| 09:43.11 | boxrick1 | So how could I stop file deletion? |
| 09:43.14 | mrrhq | So is tmpfiles. |
| 09:43.24 | mrrhq | I wish they just set it the right way by default, lol. |
| 09:44.07 | mrrhq | Actually scratch that, I had to set up /run/user/$USER not /var/tmp |
| 09:44.17 | mrrhq | I could set /var/tmp manually. |
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| 09:47.40 | teraflops | mrrhq: sorry for what? mpd? |
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| 09:50.09 | mrrhq | teraflops: Actually, I guess I'm just blabbering from sleeplessness... I just have mpd using /var/tmp/mpd/ for all my files. I don't really need it for that. Shoot, I wish I remembered what I needed tmpfiles for... |
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| 10:00.51 | teraflops | mrrhq: /var/tmp/mpd/ looks weird to me, but a wise man said: whatever floats your goat |
| 10:02.03 | mrrhq | teraflops: The thing is the directory needs to be owned by $USER/mpd, and not root. |
| 10:02.12 | mrrhq | /var/tmp and /tmp are owned by root. |
| 10:02.34 | mrrhq | I just don't want to stick temporary files in my home directory. |
| 10:02.43 | mrrhq | Feels wierd man. |
| 10:02.45 | teraflops | mrrhq: you're running mpd as normal user? |
| 10:02.49 | mrrhq | Yes. |
| 10:02.58 | teraflops | use a systemd --user unit and use ~/ |
| 10:03.08 | mrrhq | Because I usually just use it directly with the client, too. |
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| 10:06.09 | teraflops | what is that client? mpd is just a server no default client perhaps mpc? |
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| 10:07.13 | mrrhq | ncmpcpp. |
| 10:07.33 | mrrhq | Been thinking of using a Web app on Android, too. |
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| 10:07.52 | mrrhq | With or without icecast, depending where I am. |
| 10:08.30 | teraflops | ncmpcpp is a client i dont think is *the* client. for android I like mpdroid |
| 10:09.32 | mrrhq | mpc is actually not too bad. I also tried out xmms2 before they compiled in better ffmpeg support to play midi/mod files. |
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| 10:09.51 | mrrhq | Back them I could only play those files with XMMS2 plugins, now I switched back to mpd, so yay! |
| 10:09.58 | teraflops | mpc is not bad, at least for me |
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| 10:11.14 | mrrhq | XMMS2 also feels heavier, and not as widely supported. There's a lot more better terminal-based mpd clients. XMMS2 is seriously lacking in ncurses clients. |
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| 10:11.37 | teraflops | I build my playlists from curl directly and feed mpc whit them, it's also easy to use it in scripts, so it has its uses I think |
| 10:11.49 | teraflops | mrrhq: well ncmpcpp is not bad |
| 10:12.07 | mrrhq | teraflops: You can easily set up lirc to use mpc commands, if you have a remote control. |
| 10:12.23 | mrrhq | That's why I think it's useful, for hotkeys or triggerhappy. |
| 10:12.24 | teraflops | that too |
| 10:13.48 | mrrhq | teraflops: How do you build playlists from curl? |
| 10:14.01 | teraflops | hmm if you have a smartphome mpdroid looks better as a remote too |
| 10:14.23 | mrrhq | Thing is I never got mpc to actually add files and play them. |
| 10:14.28 | mrrhq | Not sure what commands to use. |
| 10:14.31 | teraflops | mrrhq: I use a google music proxy locally for serving the music |
| 10:14.46 | mrrhq | I've only used mpc for basic playback controls. |
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| 10:16.01 | teraflops | hmm I guess I have an example |
| 10:16.15 | teraflops | mpc is fine for use it in little scripts |
| 10:16.36 | teraflops | https://mediagoblin.mysticemporium.xyz/mgoblin_media/media_entries/35/screencast-1473847104.webm |
| 10:17.05 | tx | what is with that domain name |
| 10:17.10 | boxrick1 | Within apt can I get it to ignore 32bit packages? |
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| 10:18.09 | mrrhq | The .xyz is just another creative TLD. |
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| 10:28.30 | fghnvcb | hello, i have a short question, which program would the live-cd offer for serial console conections ? i want to use tty0 to connect to a device |
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| 10:34.49 | relaxed | fghnvcb: screen has serial console support |
| 10:35.08 | tdn | What is the preferred clustered file system in Debian? Gluster? GFS2? Something else? |
| 10:35.10 | relaxed | oh, it's probably not on the live-cd, sorry |
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| 10:36.21 | mrrhq | I think screen comes by default on Debian. otherwise, make a custom debian live/install CD. There's tutorials on it. Highly recommended if you want certain programs on your live image. :) |
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| 10:37.36 | mrrhq | If you're lazier and want to connect to the internet and install programs in your live environment, you can do that, too. |
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| 10:39.41 | rembo | hello everyone, i'm getting this error CMAKE Error at /src/server/authserver/cmake_install.cmake:42(FILE): file INSTALL cannot set permissions on "/.wow/cores/255test/bin/authserver" , can someone help? |
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| 10:42.17 | jelly-home | rembo: which command generates this error? |
| 10:42.18 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 10:42.18 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 10:46.51 | rembo | jelly-home: make install |
| 10:47.16 | jelly-home | rembo: make install of what? |
| 10:47.17 | rembo | it is a permission issue username cannot execute /.wow/cores/255test/bin/authserver |
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| 10:48.02 | jelly-home | rembo: which debian release is this? Which software are you trying to build? |
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| 10:48.33 | rembo | Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l |
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| 10:49.50 | rembo | http://i63.tinypic.com/21aclf9.jpg |
| 10:51.47 | jelly-home | rembo: which filesystem type is the destination mount point? pastebin the output of "mount" |
| 10:51.48 | jelly-home | !passte |
| 10:51.52 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 10:51.52 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 10:52.07 | jelly-home | rembo: weird filesystem types sometimes miss unix permissions |
| 10:52.49 | rembo | http://hastebin.com/pubehugigi.hs |
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| 11:00.11 | fghnvcb | yes i downloaded cu.deb to some usb stick and installed it, thought there would be some 100kb program implemented for that.. but little do i know |
| 11:00.51 | rembo | jelly-home: any suggestions? |
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| 11:09.06 | jelly-home | rembo: looks about right. what's your user and current permissions on the destnation file path and directory where it's stored? |
| 11:10.17 | jelly-home | rembo: id -a; ls -ld $(readlink -f /.wow/cores/255test/bin) $(readlink -f /.wow/cores/255test/bin/authserver) |
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| 11:19.43 | Abcdefghijkl | Debian shouldn't be patronizing freenode with its support channel |
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| 11:20.07 | babilen | dpkg: oftc move |
| 11:20.07 | dpkg | irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 11:20.25 | Abcdefghijkl | There are other networks, or setting up a new one with Ubuntu |
| 11:20.33 | ikonia | Abcdefghijkl: yeah, we did this dance |
| 11:20.36 | ikonia | Abcdefghijkl: stop it here too |
| 11:20.40 | Abcdefghijkl | This place is absolutely rancid |
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| 11:21.05 | Abcdefghijkl | It's hostile to free software |
| 11:21.27 | Abcdefghijkl | Ikonia sorry I don't know you |
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| 11:21.42 | babilen | Abcdefghijkl: I believe that your "question" has been answered and you are welcome to investigate the history of the move to OFTC in more detail. This is, however, not really on-topic in here and I would kindly ask you to take it elsewhere. |
| 11:22.08 | Abcdefghijkl | I don't know what move you're referring to |
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| 11:22.33 | rembo | jelly-home: http://hastebin.com/uwupuyebor.bash |
| 11:22.41 | Abcdefghijkl | I'm just voicing my opinion to find *some* other place, idc where |
| 11:23.00 | Abcdefghijkl | The culture here is absolutely toxic |
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| 11:23.38 | Abcdefghijkl | I mean, as it stems from the network management now |
| 11:23.53 | Abcdefghijkl | Which has monetized |
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| 11:24.56 | babilen | Abcdefghijkl: This is a technical support channel. Please drop it. |
| 11:25.34 | Abcdefghijkl | Babilen: why are you so eager to censor me? |
| 11:26.09 | Abcdefghijkl | Just provide support and redirect me to the right place or person to bring this issue to |
| 11:26.11 | babilen | Do you have a technical problem with Debian that we can help you with? |
| 11:26.37 | Abcdefghijkl | Yes, it's technical use of this network to provide support |
| 11:26.46 | Abcdefghijkl | Its* |
| 11:27.48 | babilen | Abcdefghijkl: Feel free to continue this in #debian-offtopic, but #debian is definitely not the right place for this topic. I also believe that there is little that needs to be addressed. |
| 11:27.52 | Abcdefghijkl | Who do I speak to about how freenode is no longer a healthy place to foster free software projects like debian, do you know? |
| 11:27.54 | ikonia | !ops #debian Abcdefghijkl cross channel troll |
| 11:27.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ikonia complains about: #debian Abcdefghijkl cross channel troll |
| 11:28.03 | ikonia | ahh babilen apologies, didn't know you where on the access lit |
| 11:28.04 | ikonia | list |
| 11:28.08 | babilen | ikonia: That was unnecessary |
| 11:28.17 | ikonia | babilen: apologies, didn't know you where on the list |
| 11:28.24 | babilen | aye |
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| 11:29.36 | Abcdefghijkl | Why is everyone here so quick to censor, punish, rule-nazi and defend this network which really doesn't deserve your effort? |
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| 11:30.17 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 11:30.35 | ikonia | he's been doing this routine in other channels, |
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| 11:33.13 | FaTony | how can I share files between 2 Debian PCs? |
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| 11:34.21 | towo^work | FaTony, be more specific |
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| 11:35.00 | Johann | FaTony: if you just want to copy from one to the other scp (copy over ssh) seams better, if you need a permanent share have a look at nfs (or samba if you might have windows box accessing the sahre too) |
| 11:35.08 | FaTony | I have 2 PCs with debian which run MATE and I want to transfer files from 1 pc to another |
| 11:35.31 | FaTony | is there a GUI for scp? |
| 11:35.37 | towo^work | use scp, it would be the easyest way |
| 11:35.48 | ransur0t | FaTony: as Johann said, scp is great, or sftp as well ... |
| 11:36.09 | Johann | FaTony: if those are two desktop, the simplest way is probably just an usb key btw |
| 11:36.09 | towo^work | yes, many, mc, gftp, most filemanagers with gvfs-support |
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| 11:38.27 | FaTony | so scp uses ssh, right? so I get the same right as if I login directly? |
| 11:39.43 | teraflops | why not using a gui for sftp if you're looking for a gui it makes more sense |
| 11:39.46 | rembo | jelly-home: any suggestions? |
| 11:41.59 | rembo | http://hastebin.com/uwupuyebor.bash |
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| 11:44.17 | jelly-home | ransur0t: technically sftp is great, scp is slightly less than great |
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| 11:44.55 | jelly-home | filezilla, winscp both support sftp so use that |
| 11:44.57 | ransur0t | jelly-home: yes sir, I know what ya mean! |
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| 11:45.21 | jelly-home | (or sshfs, on linux) |
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| 11:51.39 | FaTony | ok, next problem, I'm trying to adjust mouse sensitivity using MATE app, and it doesn't change when I adjust the slider |
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| 11:52.06 | myReaper | tu |
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| 12:13.30 | jelly-home | rembo: why are you compiling stuff as root? Do it as user twisted, see if there's any difference |
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| 12:21.48 | darxmurf | anybody familiar with samba+ldap+active directory config ? I have a random GID issue on my config Oo |
| 12:22.11 | darxmurf | for almost everybody accessing smb shares it's working fine and sometimes (that's the problem) for one or 2 guys the GID detected by samba is not the good one Oo |
| 12:22.21 | darxmurf | IE: in the smb logs I can find: register_existing_vuid: User name: greenwoo@edch |
| 12:22.32 | darxmurf | but when I "id" his account: uid=164180(greenwoo) gid=20233(lcso) groups=30089(edch),607.... |
| 12:22.41 | darxmurf | the primary group is LCSO and not EDCH |
| 12:22.57 | darxmurf | is there anything I can force in the smb conf to correct that ? |
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| 12:24.11 | rembo | jelly-home: i'm compiling as twisted user |
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| 12:24.33 | rembo | jelly-home: only root can change perms on a folder/file? |
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| 12:28.20 | jelly-home | rembo: no, but it's possible root user CAN'T write to that folder |
| 12:28.47 | jelly-home | (often the case with nfs mounts) |
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| 12:39.48 | DammitJim | can I force logrotate to rotate a log file? |
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| 12:40.13 | DammitJim | I'm running /usr/sbin/logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 12:40.26 | DammitJim | but it's not rotating the file even though it's going through the renaming and zipping |
| 12:40.35 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.37 | darxmurf | ? |
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| 12:42.10 | DammitJim | http://paste.debian.net/843107/ |
| 12:42.33 | DammitJim | it says log needs rotation |
| 12:42.53 | DammitJim | but then it says: log->rotateCount is 13 |
| 12:43.02 | DammitJim | and it starts trying to rename files that don't exist |
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| 12:43.37 | DammitJim | and at the end it never does this: copying /var/lib/upapps901test8444/logs/catalina.out to /var/lib/upapps901test8444/logs/catalina.out.1 |
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| 12:43.58 | DammitJim | the file is still catalina.out and it's the same size |
| 12:44.11 | darxmurf | which command did you run ? |
| 12:44.23 | DammitJim | /usr/sbin/logrotate -f -d /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 12:44.39 | darxmurf | hm |
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| 12:45.37 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 12:45.38 | DammitJim | meeting |
| 12:45.40 | DammitJim | I'll be back |
| 12:47.10 | pho}e{nix | hello everyone, I need some help :) I've reinstalled debian on one of my 3 hdd, on one of the other 2 there's windows on it. Grub menu does not show the windows entry. How can I fix this? Reinstalling grub? Did I overwrite windows mbr? Please help :P |
| 12:47.46 | jelly | pho}e{nix: is os-prober package installed? If not, install it and run update-grub |
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| 12:48.29 | pho}e{nix | os-prober is already the newest version. |
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| 12:49.36 | pho}e{nix | I've done the update-grub, but it does not show the windows entry...could this be because I have the windows drive currently unmounted? |
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| 12:50.18 | pho}e{nix | It does recognize another OS that's installed on the same drive as windows... |
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| 12:53.45 | uioysn | any one else have 4 mesa packages held back when apt-get upgrade; libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libgles2-mesa |
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| 12:55.43 | pho}e{nix | I'm kind of a linux noob, could someone please help me get this grub thing right? |
| 12:56.56 | pho}e{nix | jelly, :) |
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| 12:59.51 | pho}e{nix | I've probably installed grub on the windows partition or something like that |
| 13:00.15 | towo^work | if os-prober doesn't find windows, then propably there is no windows anymore, so maybe you have done something wrong when you have installed debian |
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| 13:06.11 | pho}e{nix | towo^work, there is windows... I'll try to fix the mbr with the win7 install disc and then reinstall grub with a linux live cd |
| 13:06.49 | pho}e{nix | this happened to me once before...the boot files of windows are probably missing |
| 13:06.52 | towo^work | installing grub in mbr of the windows disc, would not make any problem |
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| 13:07.07 | towo^work | the boot-files are not in mbr |
| 13:07.19 | pho}e{nix | they are in a separate partition |
| 13:07.24 | pho}e{nix | that windows creates upon install |
| 13:07.27 | pho}e{nix | right? |
| 13:07.32 | towo^work | so it is |
| 13:07.55 | pho}e{nix | let me paste the results of fdisk -l |
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| 13:09.07 | pho}e{nix | towo^work, http://pastebin.com/0Rx1zbzd |
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| 13:10.00 | pho}e{nix | win is installed on sdb1 |
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| 13:10.15 | pho}e{nix | my current os (debian) is on sdc1 |
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| 13:10.19 | towo^work | pho}e{nix, "I've reinstalled debian on one of my 3 hdd, on one of the other 2 there's windows on it." |
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| 13:10.27 | towo^work | that's a wrong statement |
| 13:10.36 | pho}e{nix | why is that wrong? |
| 13:10.50 | pho}e{nix | it's correct :) |
| 13:10.56 | towo^work | on the other 2 there is windows |
| 13:11.02 | towo^work | look on your output |
| 13:11.05 | pho}e{nix | on one of the other two |
| 13:11.30 | towo^work | nvm, there is not windows boot-partition visible on any of your discs |
| 13:11.34 | pho}e{nix | I have 3 hdd... sda is storage, sdb has windows and another linux distro installed... sdc had debian |
| 13:11.37 | pho}e{nix | i reinstalled debian on hdc |
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| 13:12.52 | pho}e{nix | towo^work, how is that possible? What could I have done? I didn't touch the sdb disk while partitioning sdc for the fresh install of debian |
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| 13:13.18 | towo^work | maby, that partition was on sdc |
| 13:13.28 | pho}e{nix | hmmm |
| 13:13.46 | pho}e{nix | I've changed the drive (forgot to mention) ;D |
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| 13:14.16 | pho}e{nix | How can I fix this? ... If it's even possible? |
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| 13:28.02 | iamawesome | Hi, when i install lxde all packages related to lxde are installed, but when i do aptitude remove lxde, only the lxde package is removed, why aren't other packages removed? |
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| 13:32.56 | th0r | iamawesome, when you installed the system knew that it needed those other packages. Now to remove them, use 'apt-get autoremove' and it will take out the ones it no longer needs |
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| 14:28.56 | xreal | Is it secure to use Plesk, cPanel an other "helpers", which come with their own LAMP binaries instead of Debian ones? |
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| 14:29.33 | greycat | Plesk is proprietary. How much do you trust them? |
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| 14:30.13 | greycat | !cpanel |
| 14:30.13 | dpkg | cPanel is a proprietary web hosting control panel. Ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 14:30.27 | xreal | greycat: how can I ask dpkg ? |
| 14:30.34 | greycat | !free whcp |
| 14:30.35 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 14:30.45 | greycat | Or "/msg dpkg free whcp" and so on. |
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| 14:31.21 | xreal | I wonder, if I need a panel at all. Up to now, I did it all on command line ;) |
| 14:31.35 | hycer | don't use webmin lol |
| 14:31.35 | xreal | shell* |
| 14:31.50 | hycer | xreal, try it, you can remove license anytime. |
| 14:31.58 | greycat | Panels are normally installed if you're providing web hosting or other restricted services to a non-technical customer. |
| 14:32.13 | greycat | If you're just adminning your own server, you don't need or want one. |
| 14:32.47 | xreal | greycat: yeah, I'm using my own website only. But creating mail users etc. isn't that easy always. |
| 14:32.50 | missmbob | heh. isp-control's demo "coming soon!" ...really? cant even see how the thing woks |
| 14:32.52 | xreal | You have to know every tool. |
| 14:33.12 | hycer | if you have multiple domain, multiple wordpress and sites it can be useful |
| 14:33.16 | xreal | Hmm.. I think the website is outdated. ISPConfig just got updated. |
| 14:33.42 | xreal | I think, I need a freelancer to help me with setting up the server for a new project. I'm too afraid to make bugs. |
| 14:33.45 | missmbob | yeah...from the looks of it i'd rather shoot myself. very much worthwhile learning how to do it yourself |
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| 14:34.27 | missmbob | last updated 2011. nice |
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| 14:43.28 | xreal | Sorry, my fault. Forgot a hostname :D |
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| 14:44.50 | xreal | I like this one: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/perfect-server-debian-8-jessie-apache-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3/ |
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| 14:59.00 | r3 | so I've a system that I have the way I want it, and am planning to clone it to another system with the same hardware. Other than changing the hostname (obviously) are there other things that I should 'clean up' or change before releasing the new(cloned) system into the wild? |
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| 15:00.50 | greycat | Root password? SSH host keys. |
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| 15:01.56 | somiaj | you might want to modify the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules since your mac address has changed. |
| 15:02.14 | r3 | root password is ok to be the same, and do ssh into them, so I should look at changing the keys I suppose |
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| 15:03.42 | r3 | somiaj: hrm, I don't seem to have that file ... I should also mention that I'm a bit of a newb and still learning.... |
| 15:03.50 | r3 | I do really appreciate the tips, thanks a ton |
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| 15:04.15 | somiaj | r3: It would jsut rename your network card eth1 instead of eth0 because eth0 would be reserved for the mac address of the old interface |
| 15:04.31 | DammitJim | is there a way that I can guarantee that a samba mount is available for an application? |
| 15:04.33 | somiaj | It isn't needed, but you should boot the sytem up and check out things |
| 15:04.33 | DammitJim | anyone worked on this? |
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| 15:05.36 | greycat | DammitJim: There's findmnt(8) in Debian, or you can just check for the presence of a file or directory that you know SHOULD be present if the file system is properly mounted. |
| 15:06.00 | somiaj | DammitJim: is this something you want to be done at startup? |
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| 15:06.15 | DammitJim | somiaj, I have the entry in fstab |
| 15:06.22 | DammitJim | but these servers don't get rebooted often |
| 15:06.31 | DammitJim | the problem seems to be sometimes if the remote server goes offline |
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| 15:06.43 | DammitJim | and the application tries to use the resource |
| 15:06.57 | DammitJim | I would like to have a monitor of some sort that would at least let me know that something happened to it |
| 15:07.01 | DammitJim | greycat, I'll look into findmnt |
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| 15:08.42 | DammitJim | I think I looked at using something like: grep -qs "/mnt/mymount" /proc/mounts |
| 15:09.12 | greycat | That's not a terrible answer. |
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| 15:09.57 | DammitJim | I wonder how often /proc/mounts gets refreshed |
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| 15:10.28 | somiaj | DammitJim: if doing this from bash, bash if statement can check for the existance of a file if you know a file that is always going to be on the share to check fro. |
| 15:10.48 | DammitJim | somiaj, or check for a directory? |
| 15:10.57 | somiaj | I think so |
| 15:11.00 | greycat | Yes. |
| 15:11.07 | greycat | [[ -d ... ]] |
| 15:11.08 | somiaj | if [-f /path/to/dir] I think is the syntax |
| 15:11.14 | somiaj | oh -d for directory. |
| 15:11.19 | greycat | you need a space after [ and a space before ] |
| 15:11.25 | DammitJim | sounds easier than checking /proc/mounts |
| 15:11.34 | DammitJim | /proc/mounts is probably not 100% accurate, right? |
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| 15:13.28 | K-Bastian | anyone knows what happened to SWAT (Samba Web Administration Tool)? Isnt included in default sources of Jessie? |
| 15:14.11 | missmbob | ,v swat |
| 15:14.12 | judd | Package: swat on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u10 |
| 15:14.49 | greycat | !swat |
| 15:14.49 | dpkg | The <Samba> Web Administration Tool (SWAT) allows administration of a Samba server via a web browser. SWAT is no longer actively maintained, its default configuration is not secure for use over an untrusted network, and is not suitable for use in conjunction with hand-edited smb.conf files. Upstream support for SWAT was removed at Samba 4.1.0. |
| 15:15.13 | DammitJim | man, this stinks... I need this monitoring to be dynamic |
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| 15:15.29 | DammitJim | the checking for a file or folder might not work as I can't be adding files or folders to these shares |
| 15:15.54 | DammitJim | do you guys think I can do a file count or directory count? |
| 15:16.52 | DammitJim | but this is probably a bash channel question |
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| 15:21.25 | K-Bastian | Thanks a lot greycat |
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| 15:27.47 | debian-alain | hi guys |
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| 15:28.06 | debian-alain | i need again some help |
| 15:29.14 | debian-alain | i was on the vlc forum and i tried to install , like they said , ivtv on debian jessie |
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| 15:31.46 | debian-alain | my video is video1 and my sound is hw:4,0 |
| 15:31.53 | debian-alain | normally |
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| 15:39.26 | r3 | so, if I change the SSH host keys on the cloned system(s), that means that the stored key(s) on my desktop here (and other clients) would no longer match and that when I went to connect to the cloned server again, the client (like PuTTY) would freak out. Any other ramifications from doing this? And is this a good guide?: http://serverfault.com/questions/471327/how-to-change-a-ssh-host-key |
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| 15:41.07 | greycat | Your client caches host keys based on the server's hostname and the server's IP address. If you clone server S1 (IP addr i1) to server S2 (IP addr i2), then your client will keep cached host keys for S1, S2, i1 and i2. Each independent of the others. |
| 15:42.13 | greycat | If you change the host keys on S2 before you ever connect with a client, then there is absolutely no problem at all. S2 is just a new host. |
| 15:42.41 | greycat | There is only a problem if you clone S1->S2, forget to change the host key, connect with a client, THEN remember to change the host key. |
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| 15:43.58 | r3 | I see, thanks greycat. I was thinking of changing all of the host keys (internal systems, nobody else really accesses them via ssh, and I may have cloned a couple in the past) |
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| 15:45.08 | greycat | If you change the host key and then (re)connect from a client that had an old one cached, you'll get error messages from the client telling you which line in which file contains the bad key. Then you can just go delete that line. |
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| 15:55.06 | r3 | right got it, thanks a bunch, greycat |
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| 15:56.42 | r3 | in a related question, could I use a 'diff' of 'dmesg' output on two different systems to determine if they really are running the same hardware? (think of the system as a black box in this case, where I am unable to peer inside them to see if - for instance - both network cards are from 3COM or whatever) |
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| 15:57.20 | greycat | Every line will be reported as different because of the timestamps. If you strip those off, then I don't know. |
| 15:57.44 | greycat | It might be better to compare "lspci -nn" or something similar. |
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| 16:04.03 | r3 | greycat, I didn't know about lspci, thanks for that, but I get an error on a little test system here because I think it doesn't have any PCI devices (it's a RPi) |
| 16:04.41 | greycat | I don't have any ARM experience, so you may need different tools for those. |
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| 16:04.46 | r3 | nods |
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| 16:04.51 | r3 | thanks anyway, I will look |
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| 16:07.18 | domovoy | hi |
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| 16:13.14 | domovoy | i have troubles getting adminer to work right under debian stable. What i did: apt-get install adminer. create /etc/apache2/sites-available/dbadmin.conf: http://pastebin.com/rNc8wJ2A . a2ensite dbadmin. service apache2 reload. I do have access to adminer when browsing dbadmin.my.domain, but with some troubles (the css is not loaded for example). The log shows stuff like "GET /adminer/static/default.css HTTP/1.1" 404. Is that a bug in adminer? or is my |
| 16:13.14 | domovoy | config wrong? |
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| 16:18.39 | jmcnaught | domovoy: it looks like the adminer package has a /etc/adminer/apache.conf that it tries to put in /etc/apache2/conf.d (which existed in apache 2.2 on debian). You could link that file to /etc/apache2/conf-available/adminer.conf and then do "a2enconf adminer" to make adminer available on all virtual hosts |
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| 16:19.41 | jmcnaught | domovoy: or look at that file and use parts of it in your virtualhost conf |
| 16:20.19 | domovoy | jmcnaught> just found that file thanks. anyway, since i want it to be a vhost, i'll have to adapt. i guess the key is the Alias /adminer |
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| 16:21.20 | jmcnaught | domovoy: i didn't take that close a look because i don't use adminer, but it might be a bug that the package tries to put its conf in /etc/apache2/conf.d on jessie |
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| 16:22.15 | domovoy | jmcnaught> guess it is |
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| 16:29.40 | d3lphi | how can I ensure that systemd is being used on my system or not? I suspect it is installed but not in use at all. |
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| 16:31.06 | greycat | d3lphi: ls -l /sbin/init |
| 16:31.39 | greycat | Also try running "systemctl" as root. |
| 16:32.36 | d3lphi | greycat: "ps aux |grep init" shows that process id 1 is /sbin/init and latter is a link to "/lib/systemd/systemd". So my system definitely uses systemd ? |
| 16:32.54 | d3lphi | greycat: yeah, systemctl return a lots of services |
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| 16:33.02 | bibble_ | great |
| 16:33.09 | bibble_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:34.01 | bibble_ | 'systemctl status' |
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| 16:35.26 | greycat | systemctl has a whole bunch of options to play with |
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| 16:36.12 | greycat | Oh, and process 1 is *always* going to be /sbin/init, so you have to check what it points to. |
| 16:36.24 | d3lphi | bibble_: systemctl status shows me on the upper line = "degraded" is it something bad ? |
| 16:36.59 | missmbob | speaking of systemd...wtf is protectsystem? ugh |
| 16:37.15 | d3lphi | bibble_: so "systemctl status" seems something like "ptree" :) just for services ? |
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| 16:38.32 | bibble_ | yep d3lphi , really useful :) |
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| 16:38.52 | bibble_ | think degraded means a service isn't fully functioning |
| 16:38.59 | rattking | protectsystem and others are explained here.. tl:dr it mounts certain things RO.. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html |
| 16:39.08 | bibble_ | but don't know if bad |
| 16:39.16 | bibble_ | but just a state |
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| 16:42.30 | bibble_ | interesting rattking , thanks. |
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| 16:49.02 | K-Bastian | how can I add an alias to an existing user? |
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| 16:49.41 | greycat | Edit the user's ~/.bashrc file, assuming that user uses bash. |
| 16:49.57 | K-Bastian | Lets say Ive got Bob, but Bob also shoulld be recognized as bob |
| 16:50.01 | greycat | ... also assuming you mean a shell command alias, not like a mail alias or something. |
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| 16:50.18 | nkuttler | K-Bastian: recognized by whom? |
| 16:50.25 | K-Bastian | no, more like a login alias |
| 16:50.27 | greycat | ... if you meant a second username that works the same as the first one, use vipw to edit the /etc/passwd file and the /etc/shadow file. |
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| 16:50.52 | greycat | Copy the line for the user in each of those two files, and change the username in the second copy. |
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| 16:54.01 | K-Bastian | greycat: thats all? just copy the lines and change the names? thats easy :D |
| 16:54.15 | greycat | yes |
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| 17:03.11 | nkuttler | ,v gpointing-device-settings |
| 17:03.12 | judd | Package: gpointing-device-settings on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.5.1-6; sid: 1.6.0~git20150314.de7fe9e7-1 |
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| 17:43.45 | notososos | hello |
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| 17:44.02 | notososos | what is the difference between http and repo in sources.lst? |
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| 17:44.13 | notososos | i see that both work for package update |
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| 17:45.31 | jelly | notososos: can you show an example of the latter? |
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| 17:47.29 | K-Bastian | is there any way to get some kind of progress bar when copying large amounts of data an a console session? |
| 17:47.33 | notososos | jelly: i use kali which is based on debian and in sources.lst. http://http.kali.org/kali can be changed to http://repo.kali.org/kali . both work |
| 17:47.51 | notososos | jelly: its not important , i just cant understand what this is about |
| 17:47.55 | teraflops | K-Bastian: pv? |
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| 17:49.11 | K-Bastian | teraflops: as option for cp? |
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| 17:49.46 | teraflops | K-Bastian: no |
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| 17:51.22 | K-Bastian | teraflops: ? |
| 17:52.09 | Akuli | http://askubuntu.com/questions/17275/progress-and-speed-with-cp |
| 17:52.23 | teraflops | now it is when do do trivial serch about pv + cp |
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| 17:53.47 | K-Bastian | ah okay, i think this dosnt fit my needs |
| 17:53.54 | teraflops | search* |
| 17:54.15 | K-Bastian | I have a hole lot of directories with a lot more files inside.. |
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| 17:56.03 | greycat | Are you asking for "rsync with a progress bar"? |
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| 17:56.16 | K-Bastian | rsync -ah --progress does |
| 17:56.30 | K-Bastian | yes, thats finally it greycat |
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| 18:14.53 | K-Bastian | thanks for your support, thanks for having this here. Bye... |
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| 18:21.44 | d3lphi | I did read about gnome 3.22 release. Is it somehow possible to say when it'll be available to use on GNU/Linux Debian testing ? |
| 18:22.17 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 18:22.17 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:23.01 | greycat | The first question would be "has it been uploaded to unstable yet?" After that happens, then there is a chance it can migrate to testing, but that process is complex. |
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| 18:24.56 | d3lphi | ok |
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| 18:40.46 | tlatelolco | Hello! Since a reboot, I have this problem: after I log on with KDM, the screen of my laptop changes to 4:3 and the sides are black and unreachable. Maybe you'll find something in my dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/843333/ @2.676408 |
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| 19:00.01 | mazert | hello, i'm creating a new page on the debian wiki. How can i save my actual test as a draft ? Save changes is ok ? |
| 19:00.26 | mazert | *text |
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| 19:01.10 | greycat | If it's a brand new page, I'd just save it whenever you have it partially written in such a way that it is coherent. Then you can resume writing later. |
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| 19:02.42 | mazert | greycat: ok thanks :) |
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| 19:06.37 | mazert | well, save changes makes the page public. Maybe there is no draft system so |
| 19:06.45 | mazert | *saving |
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| 19:07.00 | greycat | That's correct. |
| 19:07.30 | greycat | That's why I suggest that you make the saves coherent (no half-written sentences, no missing exceptions to a generalization). |
| 19:08.14 | Captain_Haddock | Is there any way I can install https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php-numbers-words in Jessie? |
| 19:08.26 | greycat | Of course another way would be to store your unfinished writing locally. |
| 19:08.59 | greycat | ,v php-numbers-words |
| 19:09.00 | judd | Package: php-numbers-words on amd64 -- jessie: 0.16.4-1; wheezy: 0.16.4-1; stretch: 0.18.1-2; sid: 0.18.1-2 |
| 19:09.07 | greycat | Jessie has this package. |
| 19:09.21 | Captain_Haddock | greycat: I'm looking for the 0.18.1 package |
| 19:09.28 | tom99 | greycat enters the realm of debian wikis and outside the area of bashing bash noobs. :D |
| 19:09.33 | greycat | ,checkbackport php-numbers-words |
| 19:09.34 | Captain_Haddock | (which oddly enough was released in 2014 :|) |
| 19:09.34 | judd | Backporting package php-numbers-words in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 19:09.41 | greycat | You can try backporting it. |
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| 19:12.12 | greycat | tom99: I've been writing for the debian wiki longer than the debian wiki has existed. |
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| 19:12.36 | tom99 | radical! |
| 19:13.20 | Captain_Haddock | greycat: I see that Ubuntu 16.04 has this version. Can I use that somehow? |
| 19:13.24 | greycat | Back when all we had was tarzeau's private MoinMoin wiki... some articles from there, including mine, were dumped directly onto wiki.debian.org. |
| 19:13.33 | greycat | Captain_Haddock: ABSOLUTELY NOT. |
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| 19:13.49 | Captain_Haddock | heh |
| 19:13.53 | Captain_Haddock | Message received |
| 19:13.55 | Captain_Haddock | loud and clear :) |
| 19:14.00 | greycat | Captain_Haddock: Backport it from stretch sources, or install it from upstream in /opt or /usr/local. NEVER EVER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES use a .deb from a different distro. |
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| 19:17.23 | awal1 | why never ever? |
| 19:17.31 | greycat | !frankendebian |
| 19:17.31 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 19:18.00 | tom99 | i just finished installing my stable wheezy, so now I'm running wheezy stable and a frankendebian |
| 19:18.12 | tom99 | (it had packages from testing in it I guess?) |
| 19:18.15 | greycat | technically, we call wheezy "oldstable" |
| 19:18.18 | awal1 | personally I never use third party pkgs |
| 19:18.51 | tom99 | in any event the not bad thing about frankendebian is you can do what you want without really caring if it messes things up |
| 19:18.58 | greycat | Third party packages are OK if you trust the packager, and if there is some assurance that the packages are *intended* to work on your specific version of Debian. |
| 19:19.30 | tom99 | for example, someone was complaining that libgweather doesn't work anymore in wheezy and we tried various things to fix it, like unzipping deb files and modifying /usr/lib. only way to fix it was to edit the scripts and replace the URL though |
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| 19:20.13 | greycat | Modifying packaged scripts and then putting the package on hold *can* work, but then you lose security updates, so you have to take personal responsibility for those. |
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| 19:20.42 | greycat | Kind of a last resort, if you care about security. |
| 19:20.51 | awal1 | I have all what I need in official deb repos :P |
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| 19:21.06 | croddy | *(except libgweather) |
| 19:21.26 | tom99 | greycat: I do have one third party repo in my frankendebian, it was put there to install a CAS system called xcas. |
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| 19:22.15 | tom99 | their webpage has a list of installation methods for about a dozen distros |
| 19:23.18 | greycat | I have third-party repositories for crawl (a game) and google-chrome. |
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| 19:24.02 | croddy | google-chrome is a pretty good example of what a third-party deb *should* look like, venturing outside of /opt only where absolutely necessary |
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| 19:24.20 | tom99 | so if it's a repo for one specific package that's a good guideline because you can guess they packaged it specifically for your deb system? |
| 19:24.28 | awal1 | man people uses iwlwifi firmware; i wonder if debian maintainers patches it regarding how non-free/contrib stuff are managed under debian |
| 19:24.31 | tom99 | croddy: ah ok |
| 19:24.33 | awal1 | many ^ |
| 19:25.15 | awal1 | greycat, but third party pkgs are also .deb |
| 19:25.17 | tom99 | in the case of an individual package maybe there are ways to remove it safely? |
| 19:25.31 | greycat | awal1: And green is also a color. Yes, what of it? |
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| 19:25.52 | awal1 | so you told never ever .deb |
| 19:26.05 | awal1 | but third party ok if trusted |
| 19:26.07 | greycat | awal1: No, I said never use sources from a different distro. |
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| 19:26.29 | tom99 | what if it's a third party deb that doesn't specifically say jessie or wheezy in it? |
| 19:26.49 | greycat | Then you have to make a decision. |
| 19:26.50 | awal1 | greycat, right; excuses |
| 19:27.03 | greycat | awal1: The important part of my sentence was "different distro" not ".deb" |
| 19:27.11 | TomTomTosch | they sometimes say stable or something to that degree, you have to look at the datecode, then^^ |
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| 19:27.35 | awal1 | greycat, yeah, i just got confused. sorry :P |
| 19:27.44 | greycat | If I said "Never eat food that is poisoned", you wouldn't respond with "You said never eat food!" |
| 19:27.55 | awal1 | hehe |
| 19:28.19 | tom99 | Well xcas had decent looking webpage and some images, so that was enought to convince me of its legitimacy |
| 19:28.25 | tom99 | Here's its instructions for deb/ubuntu: http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~parisse/install_en#packages |
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| 19:30.27 | Captain_Haddock | greycat: Thanks. The backport works fine :) |
| 19:30.49 | Captain_Haddock | (I followed the guide here: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation) |
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| 19:38.13 | Captain_Haddock | "This will install a package named mame-build-deps depending on the listed build dependencies. If you remove this package later, the actual build dependencies will be marked as "automatically installed and no longer needed" and can be cleared with apt-get autoremove." |
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| 19:38.35 | Captain_Haddock | I don't see a "mypackage-build-deps" ... |
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| 19:39.17 | TomTomTosch | try dpkg -l *build-deps* |
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| 19:42.12 | Captain_Haddock | Thanks. PEBKAC. |
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| 20:47.30 | john_rambo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:48.38 | teraflops | huh? |
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| 20:54.28 | andril | o/ |
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| 21:01.31 | cruncher | john_rambo, changed to what picture? |
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| 21:02.18 | john_rambo | cruncher, Another one from (I think) /usr/share/wallpapers |
| 21:02.27 | cruncher | i mean, it shouldnt, but if it changed to a debian standard pic maybe its just an error somewhere |
| 21:03.02 | john_rambo | Okay |
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| 21:04.59 | cruncher | john_rambo, you should check the logs for errors, login attemps/success, etc |
| 21:05.46 | john_rambo | cruncher, Never done that before ... Where are the logs ? |
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| 21:06.17 | john_rambo | cruncher, I dont have any ports open |
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| 21:08.38 | cruncher | john_rambo, logs are located in /var/log, but a good start is man journalctl as if you never did that before it wont help you much to directly view a logfile |
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| 21:48.05 | dtcrshr | how do I setup debian to reach apt-get behind a proxy? |
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| 21:49.20 | izua | export http_proxy="http:..." |
| 21:49.25 | izua | export https_proxy="https:..." |
| 21:49.30 | izua | temporarily |
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| 21:52.48 | dtcrshr | izua, and how do I make it permanent? |
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| 21:54.00 | pawi | Hello |
| 21:54.02 | izua | that setting affects the proxy globally (so every program will use that setting, in that shell) |
| 21:54.11 | izua | if you want it like that, put it to bash.rc |
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| 21:54.59 | izua | if oyu want just apt to use the proxy, add in /etc/apt/apt.conf something like: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://..." |
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| 22:09.31 | google77 | hi |
| 22:09.57 | google77 | by default debian comes without either apparmor, selinux or tomoyo, am I right? |
| 22:10.33 | missmbob | right |
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| 22:11.05 | google77 | So I can install tomoyo easily? |
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| 22:11.43 | missmbob | yes |
| 22:11.45 | missmbob | ,v tomoyo-tools |
| 22:11.46 | judd | Package: tomoyo-tools on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.5.0-20120414-2; jessie: 2.5.0-20140601-1; stretch: 2.5.0-20140601-7; sid: 2.5.0-20140601-7 |
| 22:11.52 | google77 | cool |
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| 22:12.32 | google77 | I guess I want to study Tomoyo and its fork Akari a bit in a virtual machine. |
| 22:12.54 | google77 | Finally something to dissect a bit :D |
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| 23:09.11 | cusn | I broke my package manager. (apt-get) Tried to manually remove Google-chrome-stable (thought I had installed it manually). Now I get error message on every apt operation I do, and i can't get Google-chrome-stab;e to install or remove. Is there anyway i can for apt-get to remove the zombie remnants? |
| 23:10.10 | rjsalts | cusn: use a paste service and show us the output |
| 23:11.19 | rjsalts | cusn: or man dpkg and search for force. There are many categories of what you can force, depending on your problem |
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| 23:11.40 | cusn | http://pastebin.ca/3723197 |
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| 23:18.46 | rjsalts | cusn: have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst. It's erroring when calling xdg-icon-resource, if it's same as on my system then there is a bug on line 16 |
| 23:19.21 | rjsalts | cusn: actually I misread the script, it should be fine |
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| 23:19.32 | cusn | urf. :) |
| 23:20.23 | cusn | Can I manually remove the dpkg info file for gooogle-chrome stabe and then re-install? |
| 23:21.09 | rjsalts | cusn: try running for icon in "/opt/google/chrome/product_logo_"*.png; do size="${icon##*/product_logo_}";echo ${size%.png};done and see what it says |
| 23:22.00 | cusn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.56 | cusn | Quth the Raven, "You're a Bore!" |
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| 23:25.02 | rjsalts | cusn: it's trying to finish the install of google chrome. If you do dpkg -i google-chome-stable..deb then it should put those files in place. or you could do dpkg --purge google-chrome-stable |
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| 23:26.53 | cusn | those both erred out |
| 23:27.31 | cusn | xdg-icon-resource: size argument must be numeric and no such deb file (" cannot access archive: No such file or directory |
| 23:27.31 | cusn | ") |
| 23:28.41 | rjsalts | cusn: when I said dpkg -i google-chrome-stable..deb I meant /path/to/deb. e.g. it might be dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/google-chrome-stable_*deb |
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| 23:29.11 | cusn | ah, ok |
| 23:29.26 | rjsalts | cusn: but editing or removing /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst will also work |
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| 23:45.41 | cusn | rjsalts: Thank you for the help. |
| 23:46.00 | cusn | Still borked, but I appreciate the effort. |
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| 23:49.06 | rjsalts | cusn: you deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info/google-chrome-stable.postinst and ran dpkg --configure -a and it's still borked? |
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| 23:55.04 | AciD` | hey |
| 23:55.26 | AciD` | I installed a fresh debian (stretch) on a root btrfs partition (20Gio) |
| 23:55.56 | AciD` | it keeps getting full with `dh` showing 18Gio is used, 0 is free |
| 23:56.03 | AciD` | is there a way to stop that madness? |
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| 23:59.15 | AciD` | I just removed all the snapshots created by snapper, got 2.7Gio back |
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| 23:59.54 | AciD` | literally 1 second later, tried to remove snapper : 'disk full, cannot remove snapper' |
| 23:59.55 | AciD` | :/ |
