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| 00:00.39 | Gryllida | egazz, what was your fix? |
| 00:00.44 | fredl | hmm maybe you can tell network manager to do that |
| 00:00.51 | ariel__ | I think my hard-drive might be about to fail |
| 00:00.52 | fredl | not sure, I hate network manager |
| 00:01.06 | egazz | gryllida: working on that, but the current hypothesis is that it's the proprietary wi-fi firmware |
| 00:01.27 | Gryllida | egazz: ah, free firmware'd wifi cards are really cheap, I recommend to get one :) |
| 00:01.46 | Gryllida | replacing them is easy on most laptops, just 2 mins |
| 00:01.52 | egazz | any suggestions? |
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| 00:05.18 | zeta- | Wondering if my sources.lst is right: I have jessie with updates and proposed-updates, plus security of course, then testing with updates and proposed-updates too. Not sure about last two, would testing on its own be sufficient? |
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| 00:12.50 | zeta- | Also wondering about the dep11 directory in testing/main. There's a couple of large files in there, icons-64x64 (6MB) seems to update a lot and is often 75% of a sync! |
| 00:13.36 | bhurstpdx1 | Thanks awall! |
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| 00:16.33 | Sygram | hey guys |
| 00:16.38 | Sygram | another newbie question |
| 00:17.11 | Sygram | i just finished installing gnome with "tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install" |
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| 00:17.35 | Sygram | do I need to install anything else for the GUI to show? or am I good to go? |
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| 00:33.56 | Sygram | I installed gnome on my debian |
| 00:34.00 | Sygram | and now nothing shows |
| 00:34.06 | Sygram | just a blinking _ |
| 00:34.16 | Sygram | I don't even see the shell |
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| 00:48.29 | _unreal_ | hello I'm trying to build from the instructions here https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CuBox |
| 00:49.23 | _unreal_ | this command is giving me errors: git co v4.5 says co is not a valid command and lists 3 options: commit, clone, and log |
| 00:54.22 | jmcnaught | _unreal_: from the context i would guess that they meant "git checkout ..." |
| 00:55.04 | _unreal_ | I dont know "git" well at all |
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| 00:55.07 | _unreal_ | I'll try it |
| 00:57.51 | _unreal_ | sweet worked thanks |
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| 01:03.55 | hitch | hello? |
| 01:04.25 | hitch | Looking for local GNU, mvlug, Linux club.... |
| 01:04.29 | hitch | anyone? |
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| 01:05.57 | _unreal_ | have you tried looking online for any web sites that have a database of that? |
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| 01:08.09 | hitch | Ive looked everywhere, that I can think of. I've only found very dorment sites from 2009. |
| 01:08.37 | TomTomTosch | jmcnaught: do you plan to fix it? else i would do it quickly. |
| 01:08.53 | Gryllida | hitch: local to what area? |
| 01:09.31 | hitch | Gryllida: Las Cruces / Mesilla Valley NM area |
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| 01:11.48 | Gryllida | hitch, I guess you could contact the 2009 ones and ask them what's up and whether they're still around anywhere or where they would recommend you to go |
| 01:13.09 | hitch | I guess, I could try that. |
| 01:13.19 | _unreal_ | arg.... compiling so SLOW |
| 01:13.47 | _unreal_ | lol 1.6ghz intel atom |
| 01:14.20 | missmbob | !ccache |
| 01:14.20 | dpkg | methinks ccache is a compiler cache, for speeding up code recompilation. To use it, see /usr/share/doc/ccache/README.Debian and INSTALLATION of ccache(1). http://ccache.samba.org/ See also <distcc>. |
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| 01:18.52 | dondelelcaro | hitch: I don't know of any myself, but I'd expect there would be some group at the university |
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| 01:19.58 | hitch | Yeah, I was thinking so, too. |
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| 01:39.24 | jmcnaught | TomTomTosch: oh I got distracted, I'll change it right now |
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| 01:53.54 | TomTomTosch | okayo x) |
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| 02:05.28 | awal1 | How to make compositing stuff only for X application? |
| 02:06.22 | awal1 | I use compton, but I dont want transparency for all my window manager; I only want transparency for guake |
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| 02:09.07 | chaddy | unagi |
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| 02:11.27 | awal1 | yeah, tehere are choice (xcompmgr, compton, unagi ...) but the problem is how to enable transparency for a specific app :P |
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| 02:12.59 | Orbinaut | compton has include/exclude options |
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| 02:17.48 | awal1 | 0rbinaut, you're refering to shadow-exclude, fade-exclude and so? |
| 02:19.44 | awal1 | in that case i'll have to exclude compton features for all my X session except guake, bcoz I see only a few option for include and a lot for exclude :P :D |
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| 02:55.09 | CtrlC | I got a jessie installed. When root, the auto complete doesn't work properly. Like I can't get apt-get options. How can I fix this? |
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| 02:57.14 | dcosnet | hi all |
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| 02:57.51 | angevin | linux is harder for me to use than OpenBSD because linux is bloated GUI crap that treats you like an idiot and does not act like a transparent unix under the hood |
| 02:58.04 | dcosnet | anyone have a config for 3840x2160? need it for xfce, lightdm, slim |
| 02:58.06 | angevin | linux is for mentally retarded chimpanzees |
| 02:58.11 | angevin | OpenBSD is for the elite |
| 02:58.35 | dcosnet | o look another situation where if i was op. the pests would be gone. |
| 02:58.50 | dcosnet | anyway. |
| 02:58.53 | dcosnet | anyone have a config for 3840x2160? need it for xfce, lightdm, slim |
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| 02:59.35 | angevin | dcosnet: whatever, systemd is an example of where people who do not understand unix are bound to reinvent it poorly |
| 02:59.45 | angevin | dcosnet: systemd is a insecure complex piece of code |
| 02:59.55 | angevin | dcosnet: it will be the next attack vector |
| 03:00.12 | angevin | dcosnet: it was never audited and complex code tends to have more bugs |
| 03:00.16 | aedinius | so don't use systemd? |
| 03:00.30 | angevin | aedinius: I use OpenBSD idiot. Linux is a piece of shit |
| 03:00.38 | aedinius | Then why are you here? |
| 03:00.57 | aedinius | Bad troll is bad. |
| 03:01.14 | dcosnet | ehhh |
| 03:01.25 | dcosnet | are you serious right now? |
| 03:01.43 | dcosnet | i'm not here to argue with you. and stop digging out quotes to try and get me to you fuck. |
| 03:01.53 | angevin | dcosnet: yeah, the dude who coded systemd said the BSDs are not relevant anymore. Then Edward Snowden came out |
| 03:01.58 | aedinius | I'm pretty sure systemd gets audited... |
| 03:01.59 | dcosnet | ugh why am i in this channel. |
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| 03:02.05 | angevin | dcosnet: now guess what faggots ? OpenBSD is more relevant than ever |
| 03:02.13 | angevin | you dumb linux faggots |
| 03:02.19 | aedinius | Edward Snowden came out? Good for him. |
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| 03:03.16 | angevin | aedinius: yeah he came out with his revelations |
| 03:03.35 | angevin | aedinius: linux has no point to its existance other than for android so the NSA can spy on your phone |
| 03:03.43 | aedinius | Better or worse than Peter's Revelations? |
| 03:03.45 | angevin | aedinius: I fail to see the point of linux's existance |
| 03:03.53 | angevin | why does linux exist ? |
| 03:04.19 | aedinius | Because BSD was embroiled with legal issues at the time. |
| 03:04.26 | jmcnaught | !ops angevin trolling |
| 03:04.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: angevin trolling |
| 03:04.39 | aedinius | Oops, John wrote Revelations not Peter. My bad! |
| 03:04.43 | angevin | aedinius: yeah, but MacOSX for the desktop and the BSDs for server, router and firewall |
| 03:04.49 | angevin | aedinius: end of story. there is no point to linux |
| 03:04.57 | angevin | aedinius: you can all go home now since linux is pointless |
| 03:05.05 | Hello71 | /ignore |
| 03:05.11 | solarnetone | i feel the boot warming up for a kicking... |
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| 03:05.20 | aedinius | solarnetone: Like, 300 style. |
| 03:05.31 | aedinius | "This.. is... #DEBIAN." |
| 03:05.35 | solarnetone | lol |
| 03:05.40 | dvs | studders at solarnetone |
| 03:06.02 | martman | im trying to learn how network namespaces work so i can use openvpn just for specific apps. im wondering if anyone has done anything similar. i see posts online using iptable rules and funky routing, but im not sure why that would needed |
| 03:06.27 | Hello71 | it's not nice to use amsg |
| 03:08.19 | dondelelcaro | martman: you mean so certain applications will route packets through the VPN, and others won't? |
| 03:09.31 | martman | dondelelcaro think that might be a trick question. i do want to force certain apps to go through the vpn, but it sounds like namespaces can avoid routing chaos |
| 03:10.13 | martman | it looks like any app launched in that namespace should be using the vpn,, so im not sure what i see iptables or routing shenanigans in alot of posts online |
| 03:11.31 | martman | my fav guide so far https://schnouki.net/posts/2014/12/12/openvpn-for-a-single-application-on-linux/ |
| 03:12.00 | martman | i dont get why he does this in step 5 |
| 03:12.00 | martman | # iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.200.200.0/24 -o wl+ -j MASQUERADE |
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| 03:20.24 | hitch | martman, that seems to me like the author is setting up to run as a NAT server for all ip-addrs on 10.200.200.X, which can be found on the wireless network interface. And then -j MASQUERADE, to be the gateway. |
| 03:22.08 | CtrlC | Why can't I start nginx as a non root user? |
| 03:22.16 | CtrlC | It says command not found. |
| 03:22.45 | dondelelcaro | CtrlC: you can, it's probably just /usr/sbin/nginx |
| 03:23.35 | CtrlC | dondelelcaro: Why not just nginx? it's weird. |
| 03:23.39 | martman | hitch any ideas why? |
| 03:23.42 | hitch | if there were a command not found, you could probably just add that path to "~/.profile", or run by the wholepathname |
| 03:23.47 | martman | im not sure why you would want or need that |
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| 03:24.14 | CtrlC | Why isn't it there by default? |
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| 03:24.47 | dondelelcaro | CtrlC: because it's not in your PATH |
| 03:25.05 | dondelelcaro | CtrlC: in general, things in /usr/sbin are typically only useful for the administrator, and therefore aren't in noraml user's paths |
| 03:25.12 | CtrlC | Yeah I figured that out. I mean why isn't it in my path. |
| 03:25.14 | CtrlC | oh |
| 03:25.14 | hitch | to find the path, if not root: "sudo updatedb;sudo locate nginx|grep bin" |
| 03:25.23 | CtrlC | ok. Thanks. |
| 03:27.48 | hitch | You could probably add an alias to the wholepathname of that command, to something that is in a normal users path. e.g.: "ln -s /usr/bin/nginx /bin/nginx" |
| 03:28.53 | dondelelcaro | or just dpkg -S nginx; |
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| 03:36.15 | lhx | Question: I'm on testing, gnome 3.20, and I can't figure out how to get a screensaver to come on and lock my screen after XX seconds. I also can't figure out why Super-L doesn't lock my screen |
| 03:36.17 | hitch | Oh, my bad... "Martman: Any Ideas Why?" It would help route traffic where you want it to go. |
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| 03:38.38 | hitch | here are how mine are setup: |
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| 03:39.05 | hitch | :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] |
| 03:39.06 | hitch | -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp ! -d 192.168.0.1/24 --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.1:3128 |
| 03:39.06 | hitch | -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp ! -d 192.168.0.1/24 --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 80 |
| 03:39.07 | hitch | -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE |
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| 03:42.29 | CtrlC | Why am I getting the apaches working page while it is purged? |
| 03:43.05 | hitch | this is me rerouting all port 80 tcp traffic to 3128 through the proxy, and the proxy service is grabbing the world-wide-web in place of other hosts. |
| 03:46.32 | hitch | aight, peace out, my nerdy brothers and sisters! |
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| 03:49.11 | CtrlC | apachectl stop && apt-get purge apache2* and I still get the "it works" page. |
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| 03:49.52 | lhx | (figured it out... totally bullshit that gnome 3 requires GDM to be able to lock the screen.... ) |
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| 03:54.15 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: is apache2-bin still installed? |
| 03:54.54 | CtrlC | jmcnaught: dpkg -l | grep apache returns nothing. |
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| 04:01.18 | CtrlC | Any idea anyone? |
| 04:02.43 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: "w3m http://localhost/" brings up apache working page? |
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| 04:03.04 | CtrlC | jmcnaught: I used curl and it brings it up. |
| 04:04.16 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: netstat -tulpn | grep ':80' what process is using port 80? |
| 04:04.49 | CtrlC | jmcnaught: It seems it is nginx. |
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| 04:06.20 | CtrlC | I guess that solves the mystery. |
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| 04:19.09 | jasonwc | I tried to use the instructions here (https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation) to backport Samba 4.4.5 to Wheezy. When I used the fakeroot command, I got an error "unable to load addon: systemd". Is systemd needed to run the latest Samba? Note: I installed all build dependencies in a prior step. |
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| 04:21.14 | somiaj | ,v samba |
| 04:21.16 | judd | Package: samba on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze13; squeeze-backports: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u10; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3; |
| 04:21.17 | judd | jessie-security: 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u3; stretch: 2:4.4.5+dfsg-2; sid: 2:4.4.5+dfsg-2 |
| 04:21.43 | jasonwc | I need Samba 4.4 for the feature I want to test (SMB 3.0 multi channel) |
| 04:22.21 | somiaj | I'm unsure, but backporting all the way back to wheezy may need to take some work. I'm unsure about your error, but you can modify how the package is built if there is a way to remove the systemd requiremnt you are seeing |
| 04:22.27 | jasonwc | I've been running Debian Wheezy with updated ZFS packages for my storage server for a long time as it is very reliable and I never needed to upgrade. |
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| 04:23.50 | jasonwc | Yeah, I imagine it requires systemd since that's the default in Jessie. |
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| 04:27.14 | jasonwc | first line is "dh binary --with python2 --with systemd". That's promising. |
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| 04:34.57 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: samba 2:4.4.5+dfsg-2 has a Build-Depend of dh-systemd (>= 1.5).. were there errors or warnings when you did "apt-get build-dep samba" ? |
| 04:35.51 | jmcnaught | ,checkbackport samba --fromrelease sid --torelease wheezy |
| 04:36.12 | judd | Backporting package samba in sidâwheezy/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), libsystemd-dev [linux-any], libtalloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), libtdb-dev (>= 1.3.8~), libtevent-dev (>= 0.9.25~), python-ldb (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-ldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-talloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), python-tdb (>= 1.3.8~). |
| 04:36.54 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: see what judd says. to build the samba package from testing/unstable on wheezy you'd need to deal with those build-deps first |
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| 04:37.51 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: is the feature you need in the samba 4.2 in jessie? |
| 04:37.58 | jasonwc | No |
| 04:38.01 | jasonwc | It was added in 4.4 |
| 04:38.05 | jasonwc | Ah, you're right. |
| 04:38.08 | jasonwc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.08 | jasonwc | E: Build-dependencies for samba could not be satisfied. |
| 04:38.15 | jmcnaught | ,checkbackport samba |
| 04:38.16 | judd | Backporting package samba in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), libtalloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), libtdb-dev (>= 1.3.8~), libtevent-dev (>= 0.9.25~), python-ldb (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-ldb-dev (>= 2:1.1.26~), python-talloc-dev (>= 2.1.6~), python-tdb (>= 1.3.8~). |
| 04:38.20 | jasonwc | Sounds like I'll probalby have to upgrade to Jessie |
| 04:38.29 | jasonwc | I'll test in VM to see if the feature even works |
| 04:38.48 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: it doesn't look like the testing/unstable version of samba is easily backported to jessie either |
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| 04:39.09 | jasonwc | jmcnaught, It can't just be installed from sid? |
| 04:39.24 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: no, you cannot mix stable and unstable like that |
| 04:40.12 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: unstable and testing are using newer versions of libraries than stable, it'll break or you'll end up with a frankendebian hybrid system |
| 04:40.20 | jasonwc | Hmm, I thought you could. The only packages I need updated versions of are ZFS and Plex Server and I have repositories that are updated for wheezy. |
| 04:40.28 | jasonwc | Got it. |
| 04:40.43 | jmcnaught | that's why people backport, but it can't always be done |
| 04:40.46 | jasonwc | So, what's my best bet to get 4.4 on a stable Debian system? |
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| 04:40.58 | babilen | (without essentially backporting everything else also) |
| 04:41.11 | babilen | jasonwc: wheezy isn't stable, but oldstable |
| 04:41.47 | jasonwc | Yeah, I know. I meant "stable" as in messing up my system. |
| 04:42.08 | babilen | jasonwc: I see no way to samba 4.4+ on either wheezy nor jessie |
| 04:42.10 | jasonwc | I'm OK upgrading to Jessie if necessary, but it doesn't seem like it'll do me any good here. |
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| 04:42.25 | babilen | *get |
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| 04:44.59 | jasonwc | Looks like there is no backport for Jessie at this time |
| 04:45.01 | jasonwc | wonder why |
| 04:45.36 | jasonwc | 4.4 added a ton of interesting features and is really the only way to get multi Gbit speeds on a single transfer without a 10 Gbit NIC over samba |
| 04:46.50 | jasonwc | My alternative is to get some 10 Gbit fiber NICs and run OM3 |
| 04:47.14 | jmcnaught | jasonwc: jessie was released with samba 4.1 which got bumped to 4.2 because of a security flaw that could not be fixed in 4.1. That's the only reason a version bump happens on a Debian stable release |
| 04:47.37 | jasonwc | Right, but wheezy-backports offers 4.1 from 3.6 |
| 04:47.41 | jasonwc | on wheezy |
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| 04:48.05 | babilen | Yes, because it was possible to backport that version to wheezy at the time |
| 04:48.26 | jasonwc | I thought the entire point of backports was to offer newer versions (new features) for specific packages so people can retain the stable release while selectively upgrading packages they want |
| 04:48.38 | jasonwc | Ah |
| 04:49.39 | babilen | Yes, that is the point of backports, but it simply isn't possible to backport every package as some of them would require that you also backport a *huge* number of other packages also to satisfy build and runtime dependencies. |
| 04:50.24 | babilen | That would, essentially, be equivalent to just upgrading to the release that the package is from without the benefits of tracking the original release directly |
| 04:50.25 | jasonwc | So, at best 4.4 might be backported in the future. But as of now I'm stuck at 4.1? |
| 04:50.45 | babilen | No, it will never get backported nor will it really get much easier to do that |
| 04:51.03 | jasonwc | Sounds like my best option is just to get some 10 Gbit NICs |
| 04:51.25 | babilen | Well, you could run a different distribution |
| 04:51.29 | jasonwc | NFS can do what I want. Is there a decent NFS client for Windows? |
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| 04:52.19 | jasonwc | I really like using Debian for my storage server. It's run 24/7 for the last year and a half without any issues and all my experience is on Debian or Debian derivatives. |
| 04:52.52 | babilen | Sure, I understand, but there *is* that option and it might be better than investing in 10GbE NICs just to happify samba |
| 04:52.58 | babilen | (and switches) |
| 04:53.25 | babilen | Unfortunately even Ubuntu xenial does not come with 4.4, but 4.3 |
| 04:53.35 | jasonwc | I only need to connect two machines so no switch needed thankfully. The Mellanox fiber NICs are quite cheap. The only reaosn I haven't gone that route is that running fiber is a lot more challenging. |
| 04:53.48 | babilen | aye |
| 04:56.20 | jasonwc | The fact that I'm still on Wheezy speaks to my experience with Debian. I made the mistake of running Windows Home Server at first because it was easy to setup, but then required constant tinkering, broke a lot, and lost me data since there are no good software RAID solutions. I spent some time setting up my Debian server (mostly learning ZFS) but since then, it's just been rock solid. Don't really want to screw with it. |
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| 04:57.56 | somiaj | jasonwc: usnure on your setup but would something simple like winscp over ssh work for your needs or do you actually need to mount the filesystem in windows? |
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| 04:58.33 | jasonwc | That might work. |
| 04:58.59 | jasonwc | Would that allow me to get greater than 1 Gbit speeds for a single transfer? |
| 04:59.06 | jasonwc | i.e. is it multi-threaded? |
| 04:59.22 | somiaj | jasonwc: I'm unsure about winscp, and because it is transfering over encryption there will be some speed loss for that. |
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| 04:59.44 | jasonwc | Right now I'm seeing 99.9% utilization (119 MB/sec) transferring from an SSD to a 24 drive RAID-Z2 array |
| 05:00.07 | jasonwc | but it'll only use a single port |
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| 05:01.21 | jasonwc | looks like winscp can multithread |
| 05:01.33 | jasonwc | Just not sure how LACP will handle it. |
| 05:01.52 | jasonwc | Might still send over a single port since it's still the same client |
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| 05:02.27 | orlock | OS doesngt need to be LACP aware does it? |
| 05:03.13 | orlock | but i guess you really need multiple streams for it to matter |
| 05:03.15 | jasonwc | if you're using Dynamic LACP (802.3ad), it does. There are a bunch of bond modes, and if you want to use LACP, you need OS and switch support. |
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| 05:03.21 | jasonwc | The other modes don't require switch support. |
| 05:03.39 | jasonwc | Yeah, that's what SMB 3.0 multi channel would offer |
| 05:03.49 | jasonwc | multiple streams for a single transfer over as many interfaces as you hve |
| 05:03.50 | jasonwc | *have |
| 05:04.00 | MadRat- | I have a fairly easy (I hope) question to answer: How do I display Japanese file names? |
| 05:04.17 | orlock | jasonwc: i should know, but never had to look into it that hard |
| 05:04.33 | orlock | mix of 10G and 40G interconnects here |
| 05:04.44 | jasonwc | orlock, https://wiki.debian.org/Bonding |
| 05:04.50 | orlock | It's never been the limiting factor :) |
| 05:05.14 | jasonwc | orlock, Dynamic LACP is mode 4 or 802.3ad |
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| 05:06.34 | jasonwc | sounds like this is very easy with NFS |
| 05:06.35 | jasonwc | http://louwrentius.com/achieving-450-mbs-network-file-transfers-using-linux-bonding.html |
| 05:08.08 | jasonwc | Linux has a bonding mode that will send packets round-robin that effectively achieves Nx port speeds. However, it can't assure packets arrive in order which can cause issues. Also, doesn't work with non-Linux clients. |
| 05:08.30 | orlock | hmm, nice |
| 05:08.39 | orlock | say - are jumbo frames generally required anyore? |
| 05:08.56 | orlock | i remember about 5-10 years ago i needed them to get gig throughput otherwise i maxed out the switches CPU |
| 05:09.01 | jasonwc | No |
| 05:09.07 | jasonwc | It makes no difference |
| 05:09.08 | orlock | but now everythings 1500 and seems fine |
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| 05:09.28 | jasonwc | Any decent Intel NIC will offload and the switches can all manage at regular packet sizes |
| 05:09.44 | jasonwc | There is a slight efficiency benefit (95% vs 99.4%) |
| 05:09.50 | jasonwc | At Gigabit speeds |
| 05:10.01 | jasonwc | orlock, You're using 1500 at 40 Gbit? |
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| 05:10.17 | jasonwc | I would think the overhead would be insane |
| 05:12.02 | orlock | 10 gig is at 1500 |
| 05:12.08 | orlock | just trying to remember where we had 40 |
| 05:13.17 | orlock | full-duplex, 40 Gb/s, media type is 40G |
| 05:13.22 | orlock | MTU 9216 bytes, |
| 05:13.54 | orlock | thats just on an interlink between the core nexus |
| 05:14.10 | jasonwc | The issue is that I can't terminate fiber so I would have to use patch cables and I need to run the cables between floors. I imagine that's a bad idea. :P |
| 05:14.33 | orlock | I forget what the 40G's over |
| 05:14.34 | jasonwc | I've already run Cat 6 and it's relatively short (~15-20 M), well within the range where 10 Gig will run fine on Cat 6 |
| 05:14.53 | orlock | we have a mix of twin-coax and cat6 and fiber and other stuff |
| 05:15.22 | jasonwc | I was looking for some cheap Intel 540-T1/2 NICs but all the cheap ones are knockoffs sold from China |
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| 05:15.52 | jasonwc | There are plenty of affordable fiber cards but no 10GBASE-T |
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| 05:21.07 | memguy | how does debian make its changelogs for important version to version enhancement lists |
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| 05:22.28 | memguy | the commit /history of a version control is overwhelmingly to much info do you guys /girls uses special tags /descriptions to filter what you deem important |
| 05:23.13 | nevyn | win 5 |
| 05:24.46 | memguy | what? |
| 05:24.50 | memguy | is win 5 |
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| 05:25.38 | jmcnaught | memguy: Debian packages also have NEWS files |
| 05:26.23 | memguy | what creates the news files |
| 05:27.05 | memguy | I would imagine at some point it has to be some one manually doing it to determine which changes are relevent |
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| 05:27.31 | jmcnaught | memguy: dch has a --news option |
| 05:27.34 | memguy | I was looking at the kernel itself but ya new repo software is another thing |
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| 05:28.18 | memguy | Also was having another issue i am wondering from this http://pastebin.com/MgRRXdTf |
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| 05:28.19 | jmcnaught | memguy: have you looked at apt-listchanges? |
| 05:29.10 | memguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.30 | memguy | i think the later is just the -r tags option in cvs |
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| 05:30.58 | memguy | but i am not sure how to keep adding version to the main trunk 1.6,1.7,...etc I want to understand it |
| 05:31.21 | memguy | jmnaught not really will do |
| 05:31.32 | memguy | when i get the chances |
| 05:32.18 | jmcnaught | memguy: are you using cvs? |
| 05:32.51 | memguy | yes |
| 05:34.05 | jmcnaught | because some project you want to get involved in is already using it? |
| 05:34.11 | memguy | I know about -r tags and i have seen some examples of creating branches with cvs but i don't get fully how one can create them for the main trunk |
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| 05:35.05 | memguy | what makes me create a branch off of 1.2.4.2 as opposed to adding 1.6 |
| 05:35.28 | memguy | guess i get to see a better example for me to get it |
| 05:36.09 | jmcnaught | i don't use cvs. does it create branches from what's currently checked out? |
| 05:37.21 | jmcnaught | there are probably some good books on cvs since it's been around for so long. if you're just using cvs for the sake of learning or a new project, i recommend using something newer like git |
| 05:37.54 | memguy | ya well how do you do it in either svn or git |
| 05:38.56 | jmcnaught | memguy: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Branching-Branches-in-a-Nutshell |
| 05:39.40 | jmcnaught | memguy: tagging is covered in the previous chapter, check the table of contents |
| 05:40.30 | nevyn | http://learngitbranching.js.org/ |
| 05:40.40 | memguy | well i see they have git branch to create the branch but what controls where the branch is created off of ? |
| 05:40.42 | nevyn | I thought this was neat ^^ |
| 05:40.58 | nevyn | memguy: wherever HEAD is. |
| 05:41.24 | nevyn | git makes moving around history far more straightforward than cvs imo |
| 05:42.07 | memguy | but say one wants to create the branch not off the head |
| 05:42.19 | nevyn | so move HEAD |
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| 05:42.27 | memguy | where how can he create it say off C0 or C1 |
| 05:42.39 | nevyn | git checkout C1 |
| 05:42.39 | Sygram | anyone has any idea |
| 05:42.49 | Sygram | how can i get an usb type c port to work? |
| 05:42.51 | nevyn | but this is ot try #git |
| 05:42.57 | memguy | I thought head was current version or top of the branches or trunk |
| 05:42.57 | nevyn | work for what? |
| 05:43.05 | Sygram | Im trying to display a vga screen |
| 05:43.06 | nevyn | memguy: go do the tutorial |
| 05:43.20 | Sygram | using an adapter |
| 05:43.25 | nevyn | HEAD is the current checked out branch in git. |
| 05:43.35 | nevyn | Sygram: is the adapter suported? |
| 05:43.39 | memguy | you don't move head you build off it or branch off it or an earilier version from the main trunk or branchs before it |
| 05:44.01 | Sygram | nevyn: yeah, it worked fine with windows |
| 05:44.33 | memguy | All i am saying is how does one with git branch off different versions of the software not the head always |
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| 05:45.04 | nevyn | what does dmesg say when you in git you move head |
| 05:45.04 | nevyn | asdf |
| 05:45.07 | nevyn | ugh |
| 05:45.12 | Sygram | my laptop is the dell xps 13 9350 if that helps |
| 05:45.15 | nevyn | What does git say when you plug it in? |
| 05:45.17 | nevyn | ugh |
| 05:45.29 | nevyn | Sygram: What does dmesg say when you plug it in? |
| 05:45.47 | nevyn | memguy: in git HEAD is the current commit you're 'on' |
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| 05:46.11 | nevyn | tips of the tree are usually branches |
| 05:46.24 | nevyn | and tags are fixed navigation points in hoistory |
| 05:46.27 | nevyn | history |
| 05:47.03 | memguy | ya and what happens if you want to go back in history or versions and create a branch of there not the head |
| 05:47.09 | memguy | thats what i am asking |
| 05:48.09 | jmcnaught | memguy: what you're asking doesn't make sense, you need to understand git a little better it seems |
| 05:49.13 | nevyn | memguy: you move HEAD |
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| 05:49.24 | nevyn | ie checkout the old commit and then git branch |
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| 05:51.04 | memguy | O so you kind of have to go back in history find oldversion say , then git checkout oldversion , then git branch myoldversion branch |
| 05:51.11 | nevyn | no |
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| 05:51.32 | babilen | Wouldn't #git be a better place for this? |
| 05:51.33 | nevyn | so 'go back in history' is what checkout oldversion does. |
| 05:51.35 | memguy | then checkout my oldversion you just created |
| 05:51.36 | nevyn | yes |
| 05:51.40 | nevyn | I've said this already |
| 05:52.00 | nevyn | 15:42 < nevyn> but this is ot try #git |
| 05:52.28 | babilen | Yeah, I see |
| 05:52.49 | babilen | memguy: Please /join #git and continue there :) |
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| 05:53.03 | memguy | Ok if thats correct i got it. Little different command wise for cvs but i think its mostly the same. Not sure you do the same thing with svn that you do for git and cvs that we are talking about |
| 05:53.14 | memguy | Ok i will leave it at that |
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| 05:56.59 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 05:57.19 | nevyn | mea culpa |
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| 05:58.49 | Sygram_ | nevyn: i get a lot of info |
| 05:59.11 | Sygram_ | and i used it with | tails and got this |
| 05:59.16 | Sygram_ | [ 9072.074880] VFS: Can't find a Minix filesystem V1 | V2 | V3 on device sda2. [ 9072.076607] hfsplus: unable to find HFS+ superblock [ 9072.077943] qnx4: no qnx4 filesystem (no root dir). [ 9072.079004] ufs: You didn't specify the type of your ufs filesystem mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun|sunx86|44bsd|ufs2|5xbsd|old|hp|nextstep|nextstep-cd|openstep ... >>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old [ 9 |
| 06:00.28 | nevyn | ugh... |
| 06:00.40 | nevyn | gist or paste.d.net (gist would be better.) |
| 06:00.53 | nevyn | so that's not related. |
| 06:01.14 | nevyn | that's a filesystem set to auto that probably should be ntfsv3 or something |
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| 06:04.40 | Sygram_ | how can I keep dmesg 'running' |
| 06:04.48 | Sygram_ | I dont see any real-time changes |
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| 06:06.16 | somiaj | Sygram_: maybe watch /var/log/messages |
| 06:06.17 | Sygram_ | nvm |
| 06:06.19 | Sygram_ | brb |
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| 06:14.28 | Sygram_ | well |
| 06:14.32 | Sygram_ | I failed |
| 06:14.59 | Sygram_ | didn't find anything useful in /var/log/messages |
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| 06:15.10 | Sygram_ | and var/log/dmesg says it's empty |
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| 06:17.59 | Sygram_ | I'm pretty sure nothing happens when I connect the adapter to the usb |
| 06:18.10 | Sygram_ | because the dmesg doesn't display anything new |
| 06:18.19 | Sygram_ | this is what lsusb shows |
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| 06:18.58 | Sygram_ | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:670c Microdia Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0a5c:6412 Broadcom Corp. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |
| 06:19.52 | Sygram_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c65d6982b1b6f7294b16e93783bcc7c0 |
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| 06:20.00 | Sygram_ | for formatting i guess |
| 06:20.59 | Sygram_ | could it be that my USB-C is not even mounted/detected |
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| 06:28.55 | nevyn | Sygram_: is that different with the device unplugged? |
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| 06:30.15 | Sygram_ | no, it stays the same |
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| 06:33.03 | nevyn | that's not encouraging. |
| 06:34.52 | Sygram_ | im gonna do a restart |
| 06:34.56 | Sygram_ | see if antyhing changes |
| 06:35.19 | Sygram_ | this is the first debian login on this machine |
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| 07:08.28 | dionysus69 | is snapd supported on jessie? for ubuntu snap package development? |
| 07:08.51 | dionysus69 | and is it even worth diving into this ecosystem? |
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| 07:25.51 | Se7en | Is there a debian port for the Mothra web browser? |
| 07:26.00 | Se7en | Which was designed for Plan 9 from Bell Labs |
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| 07:35.17 | simbalion | I've got a desktop running Debian 8, X, and Cinnamon. I use this desktop to monitor for alerts, but when the system idles and locks the screen the alerts do not sound. Does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 07:35.53 | simbalion | Cinnamon might be irrelevant to the problem, I just thought I'd mention that I'm using it |
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| 07:39.35 | simbalion | I'm not sure if it's the audio that's shutting off, or if iceweasel stops getting updates, since it's iceweasel that sounds an alert |
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| 07:43.57 | Epakai | where are the alerts coming from? a web site that produces sound? |
| 07:45.48 | simbalion | Yeah |
| 07:46.15 | simbalion | it doesn't use flash, btw |
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| 07:54.12 | Epakai | i really can't find much related to iceweasel or cinnamon's lock screen that would cause that |
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| 07:54.38 | simbalion | me either, which is why I thought to ask here :) But I appreciate the effort |
| 07:55.07 | Epakai | if it's iceweasel there's no obvious setting that affects this. if you're using cinnamon's lock screen maybe try using xscreensaver or something else and see if it still has the same effect |
| 07:55.37 | simbalion | I could also try chromium, but I dont think it's installed |
| 07:56.03 | simbalion | I wonder if there's a programmatic way to see if iceweasel continues to function behind a lock screen |
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| 07:57.20 | Epakai | there's a browser console that might log such events |
| 07:57.56 | simbalion | I'm not sure how to use it |
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| 08:40.29 | hramrach | any dd willing to sponsor httpfs2 upload? |
| 08:41.19 | sogi | hey guys. I am trying to install jessie on Dell PE server with Fusion-MPT SAS-2 [Falcon] but installer is not correctly choosing the appropriate module and keep giving up on installation afterwards |
| 08:41.23 | sogi | any idea |
| 08:42.23 | hramrach | iirc there was an option to choose modules by hand in the installer |
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| 08:42.41 | hramrach | but I haven't used it for years |
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| 08:42.49 | Sygram | hi all |
| 08:43.04 | Sygram | does this patch only works if im using the 4.6 kernel? |
| 08:43.05 | Sygram | http://marc.info/?l=linux-acpi&m=145929159015853&w=2 |
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| 08:44.07 | hramrach | if you have the hardware you can test it ;-) |
| 08:45.13 | Sygram | k will try |
| 08:45.20 | hramrach | or you can look at the code changes between when tha patch was posted and your kernel |
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| 08:45.57 | hramrach | the acpi code does get some development so it changes over time |
| 08:46.05 | Epakai | sogi: so you need to blacklist the module you don't want loaded? see last section https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s03.html.en |
| 08:47.28 | Sygram | newbie question but |
| 08:47.35 | Sygram | how do I run that patch? |
| 08:47.53 | Sygram | i know I'm supposed to use patch -p1 path/to/file |
| 08:48.06 | Sygram | so should I download it first? |
| 08:48.23 | Sygram | patch -p1 < path/to/file ** |
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| 08:49.35 | Iridos | also... do you enjoy compiling kernels? |
| 08:50.29 | pfote | only pussies use precompiled ones :-D |
| 08:50.40 | Iridos | *meow* |
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| 08:51.45 | Sygram | I guess not |
| 08:51.53 | Sygram | D: |
| 08:52.12 | Sygram | im pretty new to linux stuff, so I dont know much |
| 08:52.37 | Sygram | i just need to get my usb type c to work, so I can use debian as my main OS |
| 08:52.40 | Iridos | this may not the first easiest task to pick |
| 08:52.46 | bezaban | usb-c is a pain |
| 08:52.54 | Sygram | i know :/ |
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| 08:52.59 | Sygram | been at it the whole day |
| 08:53.03 | Iridos | judd, kernels |
| 08:53.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc4-686-pae (4.7~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.3-1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1) |
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| 08:53.19 | petn-randall | Sygram: Are you sure this patch isn't already in a stable kernel release? The timestamp on that mail says it was merged end of March. |
| 08:53.29 | Iridos | judd, kernels --arch amd64 |
| 08:53.30 | judd | (kernels [--release <squeeze>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 08:53.55 | Sygram | i currently have the 4.4.0 kernel |
| 08:54.44 | Sygram | do you think they applied the patch to that version? |
| 08:55.05 | Iridos | I don't know, but it would be simple to test by installing it from backports |
| 08:55.09 | petn-randall | Sygram: Let's maybe step a little back and look at your problem. |
| 08:55.18 | Se7en | No one answered my question earlier or I didn't catch anyone's answer |
| 08:55.29 | Se7en | Is there a port for Mothra |
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| 08:55.38 | Se7en | A web browser designed for Plan 9 from Bell Labs |
| 08:55.44 | bezaban | ,v mothra |
| 08:55.45 | judd | No package named 'mothra' was found in amd64. |
| 08:55.49 | Sygram | ok, I'm open for all suggestions |
| 08:56.01 | bezaban | Se7en: doesn't look like it |
| 08:56.01 | petn-randall | Sygram: What problem are you actually experiencing? |
| 08:56.09 | Sygram | basically, I need my usb type C to work |
| 08:56.28 | Sygram | in order to be able to use an usb-c to vga adapter |
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| 08:56.38 | Sygram | so I can use 2 screens |
| 08:56.52 | Sygram | the adapter works fine with windows |
| 08:57.10 | petn-randall | Sygram: Ok, but the patch you linked to is for fixing a bug when attaching a Ethernet dongle to a Thunderbolt port. |
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| 08:57.56 | petn-randall | Sygram: Which release are you currently running? |
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| 08:58.06 | petn-randall | distro release that is |
| 08:58.55 | Sygram | debian 8.5 |
| 08:59.15 | Sygram | yeah but I thought since the whole port wasn't working |
| 08:59.21 | Sygram | maybe that could fix my problem |
| 08:59.31 | Sygram | but i dont know to be honest |
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| 09:02.15 | Sygram | petn-randall: do you think I could get my screen to work by simply plugging it and running some xrandr command? |
| 09:02.38 | petn-randall | Sygram: Can you run 'tailf /var/log/kern.log' and then plug in the device? Send us the output you got via http://paste.debian.net. |
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| 09:02.52 | petn-randall | Sygram: Depends on what the problem is. |
| 09:03.00 | Sygram | petn-randall: k, will do |
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| 09:03.49 | donoban | does anyone know how to see details of an ext4 partition (chunk size, etc...)? |
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| 09:05.08 | petn-randall | donoban: 'tune2fs', check the -l option. |
| 09:05.30 | donoban | uhm, I've just read the --help info, I'm gonna recheck ty |
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| 09:07.59 | Sygram | petn-randall: should I have seen new messages after i plugged the device? |
| 09:08.05 | Sygram | because nothing happened |
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| 09:11.01 | Sygram_ | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/782574/ |
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| 09:16.36 | Sygram | petn-randall: also my laptop is a dell xps 13 9350 |
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| 09:23.30 | Zliba | is a clock skew going to mess with my kernel compilation? |
| 09:23.49 | Iridos | Sygram, there should be new messages there and/or in the output of "dmesg" ... if there are none at all, that usually means the kernel doesn't recognize the device at all |
| 09:24.31 | Sygram | Iridos, there are none :( I already checked |
| 09:24.52 | Sygram | do you think upgrading the kernel could help? |
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| 09:25.21 | hexnewbie | Which moron thought HTTPS apt would be a good idea? *weeping* |
| 09:26.19 | Iridos | Sygram, try it, it should be easy enough. ---> https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 09:26.42 | Sygram | Iridos, but in the kern.log there were new messages |
| 09:26.45 | Sygram | the last 2 |
| 09:27.09 | babilen | hexnewbie: People who serve unsigned packages? |
| 09:27.19 | Sygram | here's the log http://paste.debian.net/782574/ |
| 09:27.43 | hexnewbie | Maybe, but now it's impossible for me to download any jessie packages. apt-transport-https is not installed, so I can't install it, obviously........ |
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| 09:28.09 | hexnewbie | It would be great if packages.debian.org had links on the package pages (not after clicking a link to the link) |
| 09:28.34 | Sygram | Iridos, I already have the backports in my sources.list |
| 09:28.57 | Sygram | Iridos, in fact I already tried to upgrade the kernel but i got this message |
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| 09:30.00 | Zliba | when compiling a kernel, how do i use multiple CPU? make -j 8 |
| 09:30.02 | Zliba | ? |
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| 09:30.19 | hexnewbie | Zliba: yes |
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| 09:31.03 | Sygram | depends: linux-base (>=4.3) but 3.5 is to be installed |
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| 09:38.25 | Iridos | Sygram, that's not something from backports ... and not a kernel. |
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| 09:42.14 | Sygram | Iridos, I tried installing linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 09:42.27 | Sygram | Iridos, which gave me that error |
| 09:42.36 | Iridos | Sygram, pastebin the command you ran and the full output you get |
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| 09:43.13 | Iridos | judd, versions linux-base |
| 09:43.15 | judd | Package: linux-base on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.6.32-48squeeze6; squeeze: 2.6.32-48squeeze6; squeeze-security-lts: 2.6.32-48squeeze20; squeeze-backports: 3.4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.5; jessie: 3.5; jessie-backports: 4.3~bpo8+1; sid: 4.4; stretch: 4.4 |
| 09:43.32 | Iridos | pft. backports has its own linux-base? wtf |
| 09:43.53 | Iridos | Sygram, nevermind, I get the same |
| 09:44.47 | Iridos | wtf... why would it depend on a newer linux-base |
| 09:45.46 | Sygram | Iridos, apparently I installed it. Now trying to do a reboot but it's stuck with a blinking underscore |
| 09:45.47 | Sygram | lol |
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| 09:46.26 | Iridos | Sygram, well, seems you have to install linux-base from backports first.... |
| 09:46.37 | Sygram | I did |
| 09:46.37 | Iridos | this would work: apt-get install linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 -t jessie-backports |
| 09:48.02 | Sygram | Iridos, should I keep waiting or do a force-shutdown? |
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| 09:48.40 | Iridos | both? :) |
| 09:49.00 | Iridos | I mean... I'd wait a bit... but at some point you'll probably have little choice |
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| 09:50.00 | Sygram | k |
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| 09:53.38 | Sygram | Iridos, well the new kernel seem installed |
| 09:54.07 | Sygram | Iridos, I ran uname -r and it says "4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64" |
| 09:54.21 | Sygram | seems * |
| 09:55.19 | Sygram | usb C still doesn't work thought |
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| 10:02.10 | Iridos | maybe time to be a bit more systematic |
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| 10:04.06 | Zliba | jelly, debian can mount ufs as rw, but the kernel needs to have a module compiled in to do it. CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE=y |
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| 10:04.34 | Iridos | usb-c is only the new connector type, no? what you're probably looking for is usb 3.1? |
| 10:04.53 | Sygram | yeah it's the new connector |
| 10:05.01 | Iridos | I must admit... I don't have any of these new things and I don't really have the time to read up on it |
| 10:05.25 | Iridos | but 4.6 kernels should support usb 3.1 |
| 10:05.28 | Sygram | Iridos, can you tell me how to apply this patch http://marc.info/?l=linux-acpi&m=145929159015853&w=2 |
| 10:05.35 | Iridos | but possibly not your specific device |
| 10:05.43 | Sygram | I have high hopes |
| 10:06.15 | Iridos | but you don't have an ethernet dongle |
| 10:06.36 | Iridos | and you don't see anything like the kernel trace shown in the bug |
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| 10:09.04 | Iridos | but sure, I can tell you... you msg our bot with "/msg dpkg kernel handbook" and read the stuff it links to. Then you build a regular debian kernel, when that works, you apply the patch to the kernel source and rebuild. then, in a couple of days, you notice that the patch didn't have anything to do with your problem and raise your hands in frustration... |
| 10:09.27 | boser | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.31 | Iridos | you should try to look up what the exact device is you're trying to connect |
| 10:09.32 | boser | ??? |
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| 10:09.49 | Sygram | lol |
| 10:10.00 | Sygram | look at this |
| 10:10.06 | Sygram | this was in 4.4 kernel |
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| 10:10.16 | Sygram | Iridos, http://paste.debian.net/782574/ |
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| 10:11.52 | Sygram_ | Iridos, http://paste.debian.net/782597/ (with 4.6 kernel) |
| 10:12.23 | daniel-s | Hi there. For many languages there is a package manager for that particular language, e.g. pip for Python and Cabal for Haskell. In some cases there are also Debian packages. How should packages be managed given this overlap? |
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| 10:14.06 | Sygram | Iridos, the ACPI errors appear when I plug in the device |
| 10:14.36 | Sygram | they are differente tho |
| 10:16.09 | TomTomTosch | daniel-s: if using pip it's advisable to use virtualenv to not install the packages globally but limit it to a directory. |
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| 10:21.30 | Iridos | Sygram, is that even the message you get when plugging in the device? |
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| 10:22.07 | Sygram | Iridos, when I plug in the device in only get the ACPI errors |
| 10:22.25 | Sygram | the last couple of lines |
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| 10:23.14 | Sygram | the rest of the msgs (at the top) were already there when i ran kern.log |
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| 10:40.35 | ychaouche | Hey #debian |
| 10:40.55 | monoxane | hey ychaouche |
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| 10:41.18 | monoxane | what can i (probably not) help you with? |
| 10:41.40 | erm3nda | girls |
| 10:41.55 | monoxane | ಠ_ಠ|
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| 10:42.24 | ychaouche | I'm writing and init.d script and I need to get some parameters passed to my daemon. start-stop-daemon manual page says that daemons started with --exec can be passed arguments after --, like this : start-stop-daemon --exec something -- something something. It seems it doesn't work in my case, the arguments get ignored. |
| 10:43.40 | monoxane | i cant help you with that |
| 10:43.45 | erm3nda | what if you try --exec=something ? |
| 10:43.51 | ychaouche | here's the script https://clbin.com/dw7aR |
| 10:44.16 | ychaouche | erm3nda: that's not how most scripts in /etc/init.d/ look like |
| 10:44.34 | ychaouche | they all look like --exec something |
| 10:45.35 | erm3nda | did u wrote that? |
| 10:45.38 | erm3nda | start-stop-daemon --start --no-close -b -m --pidfile "$PIDFILE" --exec "$DAEMON" -- "$OPTIONS" || return 1 |
| 10:47.02 | erm3nda | what is "start-stop-daemon" ?? |
| 10:47.15 | erm3nda | is a binary? located where? at least is not the ethercal, so what is? |
| 10:47.23 | erm3nda | is the script itself? |
| 10:47.33 | ychaouche | erm3nda: that's how daemons get started, it's a binary. |
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| 10:48.02 | ychaouche | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/1c87071ff755087204c0dd0b9bd44dad/raw/1aaf57599e4bc7994adc9d717dda4a8fe6f2281e/gistfile1.txt |
| 10:51.03 | TomTomTosch | so it gets started only without arguments being passed? |
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| 10:51.27 | ychaouche | correct |
| 10:51.42 | ychaouche | I need to set a specific port because port 8000 is already taken |
| 10:52.02 | ychaouche | ethercalc starts at port 8000 by default |
| 10:52.09 | themill | (start-stop-daemon is an excellent reason to instead write a systemd unit) |
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| 10:52.44 | ychaouche | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/6e710a94d8f8ce5f9f3a1b761f8ef172/raw/03816caa0c1b8c19b1463446cf203217d13e4dd4/gistfile1.txt |
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| 10:54.12 | nullbyte_ | ow can i add somethings for grub command line to default to be added automatically when i run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg GRUB_CMDLINUX_DEFAULT i mean something like that but added stuff to be from another OSs (fedora, ubuntu) ? |
| 10:54.46 | ychaouche | question is unclear |
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| 10:55.34 | erm3nda | hum, seems that using --arch=armeabi desn't fully work |
| 10:55.46 | erm3nda | soon or late something does set armv7 cpu |
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| 11:08.17 | TomTomTosch | ychaouche: starting ethercalc with --port 8060 works otherwise? |
| 11:08.34 | TomTomTosch | i don't see any obvious error in your declaration. |
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| 11:09.57 | zoomgry | Hi! Installed drraw, no man page, the home page has no usage guide. I'm struggling to figure out where to look next (I'm looking for tutorials on the web, but that's moving slowly). |
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| 11:14.43 | mirazi_heket | what entry should i put in /etc/crypttab if id like to mount volume with no passphrase (no prompt on boot) |
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| 11:16.26 | ychaouche | TomTomTosch: if you mean without the init script then yes. |
| 11:19.13 | ychaouche | zoomgry: laste version in 2009 ? the software doesn't seem to be maintained anymore |
| 11:19.34 | ychaouche | in cases like these I usually contact the author directly |
| 11:19.47 | ychaouche | look for his email in the licence or readme file |
| 11:20.01 | ychaouche | or in source file headers |
| 11:20.09 | dionysus69 | is there a tool that I can use to backup my system fully with an option to launch it later on a live uSB by just changing fstab file? |
| 11:20.29 | zoomgry | ychaouche: ok. I am logging cpu temperature using lm-sensors, but it's saved in rrd format. I would like to have a simple intuitive program which can read it and produce reports (tabulated,or plots). I thought rrdtool would do that but I spent 5 minutes trying to get it to output a plot and it was not intuitive. |
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| 11:20.43 | zoomgry | I already sent them an e-mail now, too, thank you. |
| 11:21.37 | ychaouche | good. I have zero knowledge in graphing, can't help you in that field. Although I often hear people mentionning graphviz and dot files... |
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| 11:22.17 | ransur0t | dionysus69: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php |
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| 11:24.39 | dionysus69 | ransur0t: ok thank you ransur0t )) |
| 11:24.59 | ransur0t | yw, it's a very versatile tool |
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| 12:06.28 | dagerik | ntp service is not adjusting time correctly. ntpq -p shows only one and it is old server |
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| 12:10.34 | ychaouche | dagerik: do you have a source to synchronize to or do you wish to synchronize to a public ntp server ? |
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| 12:14.31 | dagerik | ychaouche: I have servers listed in /etc/ntp.conf |
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| 12:14.34 | dagerik | server 0.no.pool.ntp.org iburst |
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| 12:14.46 | ychaouche | :D |
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| 12:15.06 | ychaouche | this is what happens when you ignore your client's advise |
| 12:15.10 | ychaouche | ce* |
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| 12:19.14 | ychaouche | dagerik: you there ? |
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| 12:22.58 | quax | Q: who is in charge for bttracker.debian.org? the version its running (hefur?) seems to be full ob bugs :( |
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| 12:24.52 | dagerik | ychaouche: yeah |
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| 12:28.21 | zyley | bittorrent reminds me about something ....many of the bittorrent debian downloads do not work |
| 12:28.50 | ychaouche | dagerik: so, why do you say ti does not adjust time correctly ? |
| 12:28.51 | quax | afais that's because the tracker isn't protocol-correct |
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| 12:30.04 | quax | I'm playing with my own bt-client pet-project, and use some deb torrents for my tests too. The problem ist -- it sends me garbage back. |
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| 12:30.48 | quax | where a list of dictionary values is supposed (and required by spec), it sends simple a concanation of dict values |
| 12:31.24 | quax | (missing `l' tag at beginning, but(!) present `e' tag at the end) |
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| 12:44.01 | dagerik | ychaouche: because I check with other clocks on the internet and it differs by 60 sec |
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| 12:53.06 | ychaouche | did you paste the output of ntpq -p ? |
| 12:53.12 | ychaouche | dagerik: ^ |
| 12:53.53 | dagerik | yeah |
| 12:53.56 | dagerik | no |
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| 12:54.20 | dagerik | ychaouche: http://sprunge.us/SeiF |
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| 12:56.33 | ychaouche | dagerik: that server doesn't seem to have ntpd running : http://paste.debian.net/plain/782661 |
| 12:57.26 | ychaouche | did you paste your /etc/ntp.conf ? |
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| 13:10.51 | dagerik | ychaouche: here is ntp.conf: http://sprunge.us/VEgM |
| 13:11.04 | dagerik | and it's not syncing from those servers |
| 13:11.12 | dagerik | yes I have tried restarting ntp service |
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| 13:13.08 | ychaouche | ntnu-gsw-l0.net was mentioned in your ntpq -q output earlier, yet it's not in your ntp.conf file. |
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| 13:13.38 | ychaouche | when you restarted your ntp service, did you check for errors in syslog ? |
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| 13:21.09 | dagerik | ychaouche: yep. no errors |
| 13:22.05 | ychaouche | Now that I have consumed all my reasonable guesses, there are only stupid guesses left |
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| 13:44.49 | jjulian | anyone uses netplugd here? im having an issue where it goes oin boot "inning" -> "watiting for in script" -> gets dhcp -> "outing" -> "inning" -> "watiting for in script" -> gets dhcp -> Running. And thatts always. Anyone any idea? |
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| 13:46.02 | iLogic | hey guys, i have an usb drive connected at boot time (not install, but regular boot) that gets detected as /dev/sda while the internal/main hd is detected as sdb .. is that because of the bios boot order? am i missing some setup? |
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| 13:54.08 | Sepultura | Hallo |
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| 14:01.16 | Ooze | Can someone take a look at this and point me in the right direction? From my searches it looks like this module must be enabled in multiple locations? http://paste.incorrigible.me/faqenixuma.hs |
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| 14:10.56 | unborn | zyley: transmission works |
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| 14:14.06 | rasperrian | Hello guys :) |
| 14:14.27 | rasperrian | i wonder... are you willing to help me even if im using raspberry pie? |
| 14:14.41 | rasperrian | Its Raspbian OS, but it is based on debian, so... |
| 14:14.42 | greycat | If you're running Debian (not Raspbian) on it, sure. |
| 14:14.59 | rasperrian | nope, its just raspbian, sorry |
| 14:15.06 | rasperrian | i dont know if debian works |
| 14:15.59 | rasperrian | I found there is a irc channel for raspbian, too, i can try that first |
| 14:16.05 | rasperrian | sorry for the trouble man |
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| 14:17.55 | ashka | hi, I installed debian 8 and openssh-server, but systemd didn't wait for DHCP before starting sshd, is this the expected behavior by default ? |
| 14:18.05 | johnkeates | yes |
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| 14:20.33 | greycat | That's odd. My jessie box *appears* to be waiting for the network to come up before it moves on to anything else... |
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| 14:27.24 | zyley | unborn, bittorrent??? assuming yes ... i downloaded some live nonfree debian ISOs some time ago and bittorrent did not work. but now bittorrent files aren't available anymore so it's sort of fixed. |
| 14:29.08 | rasperrian | I have a general question: my machine have both WIFI and ethernet connected to the router... they both have static IPs. So. when i log in via SSH, and download a file, will my machine use WIFI or ethernet to connect to internet and download? will it use the connection that i SSH into ? |
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| 14:29.19 | rasperrian | I find that difficult to understand |
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| 14:29.42 | greycat | It will use whichever interface is indicated by your routing table. |
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| 14:30.56 | greycat | Doesn't matter whether the download command originated from a cron job, a local terminal, an ssh connection, or anywhere else. Routing table to the destination IP tells the kernel where to send the packets. |
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| 14:31.50 | rasperrian | OK thanks |
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| 14:32.27 | rasperrian | will this work to make wlan default: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1 wlan0 |
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| 14:34.58 | rasperrian | greycat: is it the /etc/network/interfaces file that tells the kernel this ? |
| 14:35.49 | greycat | That file is read by various programs that run at boot time (or when a dhcp daemon encounters certain events) to trigger various actions. It's not used by the kernel directly. |
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| 14:36.56 | rasperrian | Okey |
| 14:37.02 | rasperrian | i think i found a solution |
| 14:37.18 | rasperrian | Just unplug the Ethernet cable, then im sure its the wifi going on |
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| 14:50.05 | RAZZZZ | hello. My partition is only 2 gb, but the disk (its USB) is 120 gb. How can i extend that partition (same as the OS drive) to be 120 gb ? |
| 14:50.12 | ychaouche | It could be that the modules are already compiled in php and need not be loaded explicitely in php.ini |
| 14:50.20 | ychaouche | Ooze: ^ |
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| 14:51.05 | ychaouche | Ooze: check your php.ini and see if the extensions are explictely loaded. comment the out and run the scripts manually (don't wait for the cron) and see if the error disappears |
| 14:51.22 | RAZZZZ | By the weay great work with the Jessie debian relase, it kicks ass guys! |
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| 14:52.06 | ychaouche | Ooze: look for lines like extension=gd.so and extension=mysql.so |
| 14:52.34 | ychaouche | should be in the cli directory (/etc/php5/cli/php.ini) |
| 14:52.44 | ychaouche | since the script is run from the command line |
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| 14:55.16 | ychaouche | ashka: what happens then for statically configured interfaces ? |
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| 14:56.31 | ashka | ychaouche: it works fine on static interfaces. I don't have time to test atm so I added network-online.target to sshd and systemctl enable systemd-networkd-wait-online, I hope it'll work on next restart |
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| 14:56.49 | [1]wasted | Hi guys! |
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| 14:57.41 | [1]wasted | Can anybody help me to configure udev to assign alway the same interface name? I would love to make my scheme according to location of the connector of the hw |
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| 15:03.29 | Misa3l2 | Hola??? como estan? hay alguien que me ayude a confgurar mi opendkim? |
| 15:03.34 | greycat | !es |
| 15:03.35 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
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| 15:03.54 | Misa3l2 | -.-" |
| 15:04.04 | Misa3l2 | !uk |
| 15:04.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, uk is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and comprises the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (Under ISO 3166-1, it should have been .gb not .uk, but that never quite caught on.) |
| 15:04.09 | Misa3l2 | !ch |
| 15:04.09 | dpkg | from memory, ch is Switzerland or Confoederatio Helvetica. There is also a Swiss Debian Association: http://debian.ch/ which lives in #debian.ch . See also #linux.ch on Freenode. |
| 15:04.22 | Misa3l2 | :V |
| 15:04.29 | RodrigoLeandro | Hello people, I havê a questionar, how do I for shutdown AMD reboot the intel baytrail tablet, I bougth a Tablet, chuwi hi8, AMD I installed Debian Stretch (testing) bit nothing of shutdown nor reboot, freeze in the and with the text: watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop! |
| 15:04.30 | greycat | If you want to chat with dpkg randomly, please use /msg or /query. |
| 15:04.47 | johnkeates | !nl |
| 15:04.47 | dpkg | Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl. |
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| 15:04.57 | johnkeates | !greycat |
| 15:05.02 | johnkeates | aww, he doesn't know yo |
| 15:05.06 | Misa3l2 | no show error on start? |
| 15:05.20 | RodrigoLeandro | AMD=and |
| 15:05.42 | Misa3l2 | i need help to configure my opendkim T_T |
| 15:05.48 | Misa3l2 | spanish / englih :V |
| 15:05.58 | [1]wasted | Is there any channel for udev support? |
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| 15:06.01 | johnkeates | nah, you need help with eating those chicken nuggets |
| 15:06.03 | johnkeates | hand them over! |
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| 15:06.11 | johnkeates | udev->#linux |
| 15:06.15 | [1]wasted | tks |
| 15:06.22 | unborn | opendkim T_T what version is that? |
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| 15:13.58 | unborn | !pm |
| 15:13.59 | dpkg | somebody said pm was private message (something you don't do without asking for permission first, see <private>), or post meridiem, or prime minister, or perl mongers, or pathetic moron, or provocative/preventative/percussive maintenance, or power management (see <pm debug>) |
| 15:14.59 | ychaouche | provocative maintenance :p |
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| 15:27.27 | koollman | hi, how would I find the documentation for the 'apt' binary? (man apt is rather empty, man apt.conf is not related). I'm looking for a way to disable the default 'clear screen after install' behavior |
| 15:27.58 | ychaouche | I need something to eat. In the meanwhile : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=129115 |
| 15:27.58 | themill | koollman: which release of debian? |
| 15:28.08 | koollman | jessie |
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| 15:28.19 | themill | "man apt" is hardly empty |
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| 15:29.14 | koollman | well, there are whole 4 options documented. and then it refers to configuration variables that are from apt.conf |
| 15:30.45 | themill | man apt.conf is also not unrelated. |
| 15:30.52 | themill | Maybe you could just ask your real question? |
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| 15:32.12 | koollman | that's the second part of the sentence. Is there a way to disable the default behavior of "send clear screen after apt install stuff" |
| 15:32.34 | avc | hello! |
| 15:32.35 | greycat | huh? |
| 15:32.42 | themill | koollman: I know of no such behaviour |
| 15:32.53 | greycat | There is nothing that clears the screen after an apt-get command. By default anyway. |
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| 15:35.10 | Hobart | When I purge an old Kernel package, because I have added components that use dkms (either zfs or custom video drivers), it kicks off a full build/compile of the kernel modules before removing it. Is there something I'm doing wrong? :) For deleting packages, a rebuild seems excessive |
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| 15:35.44 | jhutchins | greycat: He's actually asking about apt, not apt-get, and apt may behave differently. |
| 15:36.16 | koollman | yes |
| 15:36.32 | greycat | oh, he's one of the 5 people in the whole world who use apt(1)? |
| 15:36.45 | greycat | sorry, (8) |
| 15:37.15 | greycat | What specific command are you running which clears the screen? |
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| 15:37.55 | greycat | tries "apt update" and is slightly nauseated by the mustard-yellow text of the bottom line against the terminal's sane white background |
| 15:38.50 | greycat | tries "apt list --upgradable" next as hinted. Neither of these commands cleared the screen. |
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| 15:39.51 | johnkeates | I use apt too |
| 15:39.54 | koollman | I'm trying to debug it and I think it's terminal related. |
| 15:40.22 | koollman | any apt install, for a new package. apt purge sl ; apt install sl. |
| 15:40.54 | Misa3l2 | someone who wants to help me with my opendkim? |
| 15:40.57 | greycat | Damn, so I have to do something *intrusive* to test it. |
| 15:41.23 | Misa3l2 | e ts dmarc the firm have spf and everything else, but I get to spam |
| 15:41.23 | themill | I tried it with sl 10 min ago and it didn't clear the terminal |
| 15:42.01 | koollman | yep it does not clear the screen in a linux console. it does from one of my term ... not from a different one. I suspect the way the progress bar is displayed matters. meh |
| 15:42.03 | greycat | koollman: what *exactly* are you typing? Are you typing it as root, or as a regular user with "sudo", or something else? |
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| 15:42.45 | bezaban | Misa3l2: any specific providers? I recently had to have hotmail remove me since they'd blocked a whole range |
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| 15:43.16 | Misa3l2 | i test gmail |
| 15:43.21 | Misa3l2 | :( |
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| 15:43.28 | bezaban | they said I was removed for a 'trial period' and that their blocking 'likely wasn't a mistake', but I am the only user on that mail server and have been for many years, so.. yeeah' |
| 15:43.45 | bezaban | Misa3l2: PTR records good? |
| 15:44.09 | Misa3l2 | yes |
| 15:44.11 | Misa3l2 | and rdns |
| 15:44.12 | bezaban | and SPF/DMARC validate? Could the MTA be using ipv6 which doesn't have said records? |
| 15:44.19 | Misa3l2 | yes ia validated |
| 15:44.26 | koollman | apt purge -y sl; apt install -y sl ... and ... it seems sensible inside xterm, too. meh. So, terminfo is strange. sorry for the initial question, I will have to find a better term :) |
| 15:44.26 | apt | koollman: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:44.33 | koollman | :) |
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| 15:44.51 | bezaban | Misa3l2: did you look at a raw email header in gmail? |
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| 15:45.22 | bezaban | email setup is getting quite tedious.. |
| 15:45.29 | Misa3l2 | bezaban |
| 15:45.29 | bezaban | ugh. phone. brb |
| 15:45.30 | Misa3l2 | you send private message |
| 15:45.39 | teraflops | Misa3l2: mail is a headache, did you look at the headers of one of those emails for any clue, also the logs on the server side? you just said it gets to spam which can be caused by a bunch of reason, I wish you good luck |
| 15:46.00 | koollman | (yay, term not cleared from inside 'screen' program. definitely termcaps strangeness) |
| 15:46.00 | bezaban | Misa3l2: it will be much more helpful if you do it in the channel, then everyone can see what you have and have not checked |
| 15:46.25 | bezaban | but yeah, I'll check that pastebin |
| 15:46.26 | Misa3l2 | ok look |
| 15:46.28 | Misa3l2 | this header |
| 15:46.28 | Misa3l2 | http://pastebin.com/fFJU4Yb0 |
| 15:46.46 | Misa3l2 | cp.idata.com.ve is my domain |
| 15:46.55 | jhutchins | !es |
| 15:46.56 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
| 15:48.02 | Misa3l2 | bezm |
| 15:48.11 | bezaban | Misa3l2: it all looks good really. It could be as easy as the HTML content.. |
| 15:48.12 | Misa3l2 | bezaban |
| 15:48.25 | Misa3l2 | dkim=pass dkim=pass spf=pass dmarc=pass |
| 15:48.30 | Misa3l2 | selector default |
| 15:48.31 | bezaban | Misa3l2: yeah :/ |
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| 15:49.06 | Misa3l2 | T_T |
| 15:49.43 | bezaban | Misa3l2: localhost.localdomain may also trigger spam filters if I am not mistaken |
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| 15:50.05 | teraflops | jhutchins: why did you call the debian-es factoid? |
| 15:50.07 | Misa3l2 | I see everything properly configured. I do not understand what happens achievement |
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| 15:50.16 | bezaban | I know, mail is annoying |
| 15:50.24 | bezaban | war over. spammers won. |
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| 15:51.00 | bezaban | Misa3l2: have you checked block lists? |
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| 15:51.11 | Misa3l2 | yes is clean |
| 15:51.19 | Misa3l2 | the ip |
| 15:51.39 | Misa3l2 | look the result of spam cheker |
| 15:51.40 | Misa3l2 | http://isnotspam.com/newlatestreport.php?email=ins-xzu5atei%40isnotspam.com |
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| 15:52.37 | pierre365 | hi! |
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| 15:53.59 | Misa3l2 | bezaban i send a email from my terminal and look this root <root@cp.idata.com.ve> :O |
| 15:54.07 | Misa3l2 | and spam T_T |
| 15:54.08 | Misa3l2 | xD |
| 15:54.48 | pierre365 | for work i had to install windows 10 on my computer as a dual boot on top of my previous debian install. So I made a primary ntfs partition, installed windows, recovered grub and rebooted on debian. but now update-grub can not find the windows partition, and grub-install /dev/sdxY gives me "grub-install: warning: File system `ntfs' doesn't support embedding. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not |
| 15:54.54 | pierre365 | possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged." anyone has an idea please? |
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| 15:58.05 | teraflops | pierre365: beacuse youre doing it wrong |
| 15:58.31 | pierre365 | teraflops: ah? it's been a while i didn't do that so that might be possible... |
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| 15:58.52 | pierre365 | teraflops: how to make grub detect windows partition? |
| 15:59.00 | teraflops | pierre365: /dev/sdaY installs grub in a partition not the mbr |
| 15:59.18 | pierre365 | yeah so i tried /dev/sda first |
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| 15:59.38 | teraflops | or if youre doing uefi tell grub where the ESP is |
| 15:59.46 | pierre365 | teraflops: ah ok i see so /dev/sdaY doesn't make sense i see |
| 15:59.57 | pierre365 | teraflops: but how to tell grub where to find windows then? |
| 16:00.10 | teraflops | pierre365: sorry? |
| 16:00.53 | pierre365 | pierre365: i mean, so grub is on my mbr. great that's waht i want. but how to tell him to run windows boot manager? |
| 16:01.01 | teraflops | you do update-grub, with os prober intalled it *detects* other OSes |
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| 16:02.34 | teraflops | pierre365: if you install grub in /dev/sdxy and you reboot the computer it will not start grub, unless that's the UEFI esp and you did not clarified that point yet |
| 16:02.43 | pierre365 | teraflops: thanks..... i missed os-prober..... |
| 16:02.50 | teraflops | ok |
| 16:02.58 | teraflops | s/ok/np |
| 16:03.04 | pierre365 | hehe |
| 16:03.27 | pierre365 | is rebooting on windows :( |
| 16:04.25 | bezaban | Misa3l2: there is https://www.mail-tester.com/, and try to send a text only email to gmail. I'm out of ideas, as it seems everything is right. If you just recently added these things you might have to build a 'reputation'. I am not sure how different sites like multilevel domains either, eg. cp.idata.com.ve |
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| 16:08.42 | Misa3l2 | bezaban 3 test per days |
| 16:08.47 | Misa3l2 | i exeded the limit xD |
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| 16:09.33 | Misa3l2 | y domifi the hosts and look now Received: from cp.idata.com.ve (cp.idata.com.ve [127.0.0.1]) |
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| 16:12.41 | teraflops | if you do spamassasin ⦠spam filters rules are silly same as all those guys spamhaus at the head making things a clusterfuck. e.g if your email subject is short or if the content is not properly formatted, or if you say shit it subtracts points and so on |
| 16:14.26 | Misa3l2 | ummmm |
| 16:14.44 | Misa3l2 | I understand I'll get back to testing |
| 16:15.47 | Misa3l2 | i edit the hosts now Received: from cp.idata.com.ve (cp.idata.com.ve [162.208.8.136]) |
| 16:16.10 | nyuszika7h | installer is telling me httpredir.debian.org does not support jessie |
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| 16:16.16 | nyuszika7h | but I'm using it on my server without problem... |
| 16:16.39 | teraflops | tried using a real server instead httpredir |
| 16:16.44 | TheSpiderPig | any suggestions for upgrading from squeeze to newest version of debian? |
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| 16:16.51 | TheSpiderPig | like i just want it do do it inplace |
| 16:17.07 | themill | You need to upgrade to wheezy and then jessie |
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| 16:37.12 | awal1 | Wonders why 'cryptotokenextension' is installed by default in debian chromium and if it's from a secure source... |
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| 16:38.42 | babilen | awal1: I'm sure it reports directly to some TLA |
| 16:39.31 | WormFood | awal1, that is what was recommended by the FBI, CIA, DEA, KGB and MI6 |
| 16:39.43 | WormFood | oh yeah, and the TLA |
| 16:39.44 | unborn | Misa3l2: whats the domain that emails going to spam? |
| 16:39.46 | WormFood | :P |
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| 16:40.14 | Misa3l2 | cp.idata.com.ve idata.com.ve |
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| 16:40.27 | Misa3l2 | cp.idata.com.ve is my server postfix |
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| 16:40.30 | awal1 | babilen, TLA? |
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| 16:40.34 | awal1 | whats that? |
| 16:40.39 | babilen | argh |
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| 16:41.00 | WormFood | You really don't know? |
| 16:41.19 | WormFood | Three Letter Acronym...What I just listed off previously. |
| 16:41.50 | awal1 | yeah, just googled it, can mean cia, fbi, dst, kgb,... |
| 16:42.24 | awal1 | how to remove it completly ? |
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| 16:43.28 | awal1 | one can disable it but no option for remove it |
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| 16:43.58 | WormFood | You need a revolution to remove the TLAs |
| 16:44.40 | awal1 | :D |
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| 16:45.39 | awal1 | I dont find useful info googling about that extension, apart some technical discussions in google world |
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| 16:47.53 | awal1 | hmmm, that's why firefox-esr/iceweasel has always been my main web browser, I have chromium only bcoz of some movie website which require flash and use it only for that |
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| 16:48.06 | qzio | hi, I'm trying to install debian on a machine running kvm, I have 3 guests already installed but today I can't install a new one. I keep getting "Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting." |
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| 16:48.25 | qzio | my google-fu have not given me an answer for this problem.. |
| 16:48.46 | awal1 | I dont know why, but I'm always suspicious about google stuff, no matters if is open source or non-free pkgs |
| 16:49.17 | WormFood | Maybe that is the real reason why Google is banned in China. |
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| 17:41.02 | fredl | hi guys, I'm trying to make Apache listen to an IPv6 address only |
| 17:41.47 | fredl | So I follow some documentation, add <VirtualHost [2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae]:80> to my vhost definition |
| 17:42.08 | fredl | but it gives The address or port is invalid |
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| 17:52.33 | lasdam | hello. I'm wondering what's going on with apt when I install package A, install package B, remove package B (and I seem to have to answer "yes" to removing all of its dependencies as well), running apt-get autoremove (reason 1: else I'll be bugged with the autoremove notice indefinitely, reason 2: I assume it frees up space by removing unneeded dependencies from package B), and package A is unintentionally and unwittingly removed in |
| 17:52.33 | lasdam | the process. anyone knows why this happens and what the workaround is? |
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| 18:03.58 | sine0 | quick question, debian headless, via DHCP, now I want to specify which address i get from teh DHCP, i suppose I create a static ? |
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| 18:08.04 | pi__ | hey! |
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| 18:08.27 | pi__ | does anyone here knows how to install debian on a USB stick ? |
| 18:08.46 | pi__ | When I do it, it just does not boot, so I guess there is an additionnal step I'm missing |
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| 18:09.15 | mtn | pi__: do you mean install the iso to the usb, or a complete install of debian to the usb? |
| 18:09.16 | pi__ | I install grub on the /dev/sdX of the usb stick ; is there more to do ? |
| 18:09.24 | pi__ | a complete install |
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| 18:09.44 | mtn | pi__: your machine does legacy boot, not uefi? |
| 18:09.49 | pi__ | I thought it would be the same as on a regular hdd |
| 18:09.52 | pi__ | yup legacy |
| 18:10.26 | mtn | pi__: is usb first in your boot order? |
| 18:10.27 | pi__ | and thought all I get is a black screen and a blinking prompt |
| 18:10.54 | mtn | pi__: oh, so it does boot, but fails with a black screen? |
| 18:10.59 | pi__ | yes, I also did boot on it from a boot selection menu, and select the "usb flash" one, not the "EFI:usb" one. |
| 18:11.10 | pi__ | mtn, seems |
| 18:11.29 | mtn | pi__: that is a video driver problem. try booting with nomodeset in the kernel line |
| 18:11.53 | pi__ | mhmmm |
| 18:12.04 | pi__ | a video problem ? Why not giving a tty then ? |
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| 18:12.21 | mtn | pi__: doesn't work that way ;) |
| 18:12.28 | pi__ | mhhhhhhhm |
| 18:12.38 | mtn | pi__: or do you mean you tried ctrl+alt+F2 or similar? |
| 18:12.43 | pi__ | I'll look how to nomodeset |
| 18:12.47 | pi__ | sure I did |
| 18:12.51 | pi__ | does nothing |
| 18:13.04 | mtn | pi__: hmm, some video cards cause a problem like this. what is your card? |
| 18:13.07 | pi__ | It's like if it was a pre-tty |
| 18:13.42 | pi__ | I tried on two different desktop, one amd, the other nvidia, and also from a virtualbox :o |
| 18:13.53 | pi__ | I only get a blinking dot é_è |
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| 18:14.20 | pi__ | mhm |
| 18:14.21 | mtn | pi__: you could also remove the quiet and splash from the kernel line to see the error messages |
| 18:14.48 | up2late | pi__: u using debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst? |
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| 18:15.05 | pi__ | aye up2late |
| 18:15.11 | up2late | hmm |
| 18:15.18 | up2late | mine went in fine on 17 year old hardwre |
| 18:15.24 | up2late | amd box |
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| 18:15.45 | pi__ | mtn, I'm not very used to play with these |
| 18:15.54 | pi__ | it's a /etc/something line ? |
| 18:16.12 | mtn | pi__: not too hard to do. any change you make to the kernel line at boot time is not permanent, so no worries |
| 18:16.33 | mtn | pi__: no, I mean in the boot menu that comes up when you boot |
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| 18:16.45 | pi__ | what boot menu ? |
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| 18:16.54 | mtn | pi__: sorta like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu |
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| 18:17.40 | pi__ | mhm |
| 18:18.04 | pi__ | this is a good question, I have no idea if grub is working, let's try that |
| 18:18.23 | mtn | pi__: yes, grub is working, otherwise you would not get as far as you do ;) |
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| 18:19.12 | TheSpiderPig | guess who tried upgrading debian without a backup |
| 18:19.24 | mtn | do we get three guesses? |
| 18:19.28 | TheSpiderPig | and who actually has a backup sitting in cold storage (thank god) |
| 18:19.43 | TheSpiderPig | its running on squeeze |
| 18:19.48 | TheSpiderPig | tried upgradinmg |
| 18:19.52 | TheSpiderPig | the whole thing went to shit real fast |
| 18:19.58 | TheSpiderPig | slowly walks away |
| 18:21.20 | pi__ | mtn, mhm, grub does not show up pushing "shift" |
| 18:22.19 | pi__ | this is confusing, before loading the bios, there is also a prompt blinking on a black screen, quite similar. I'm not sure if theses two are the same :/ |
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| 18:24.18 | mtn | pi__: it is also possible something basic is wrong with your install |
| 18:24.42 | mtn | pi__: not grub, but a bad install |
| 18:24.51 | pi__ | m'well |
| 18:25.09 | leba2 | Do you know if there were bugs in Samba 4 3 or 4 months ago on Debian 8.4? |
| 18:25.12 | pi__ | this is possible, but I thought I knew the basic of this, I'm not new in this |
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| 18:25.39 | pi__ | thought it the first time a try on a USB stick, but nobody seem to think it has something different |
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| 18:27.43 | mtn | pi__: I have never tried it, so not sure how well it works |
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| 18:29.16 | Samereabelvar | ha |
| 18:29.51 | Samereabelvar | maybe it's about gpt not being handled with usb... Well or not. I don't know. Nobody did this ? X_X |
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| 18:30.59 | Samereabelvar | tiens |
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| 18:33.27 | leba2 | Do you know if there were bugs in Samba 4 3 or 4 months ago on Debian 8.4? |
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| 18:34.34 | mtn | leba2: debian has a bug tracker |
| 18:35.03 | leba2 | thanks |
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| 18:37.15 | leba2 | Is there a bug search in bug tracker? I mean, I'm trying to find if there was a bug with samba4 3 or 4 months ago. |
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| 18:38.24 | greycat | !jessie samba |
| 18:38.24 | dpkg | A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <http://bugs.debian.org/820983> for the correct instructions. Win XP clients use NTLM by default; to switch them to NTLMv2 you will need admin, and follow <https://www.imss.caltech.edu/node/396> depending on which XP it is. |
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| 18:43.51 | leba2 | Thanks graycat. Hope it's that... I was told to look for a bug that affected Samba 4 which had to be solved by updating to testign release Stretch |
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| 18:56.02 | vlt | Hello. How can I find out if a kernel image is GZ or XZ compressed? |
| 18:56.53 | vlt | And is there a way to take an XZ image and re-compress it as GZ without having to completely recompile it? |
| 18:57.14 | tremon | vlt: file can tell you |
| 18:57.40 | vlt | tremon: file says "executable bzImage" |
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| 18:58.15 | tremon | hmm, I had thought it would have mentioned the compression method too |
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| 18:58.33 | tremon | oh that's only for initramfs, apparently |
| 18:58.53 | greycat | I believe the first part of the kernel (which is what file(1) reads) is uncompressed. |
| 18:59.07 | greycat | Has to be so it can be executed. |
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| 18:59.49 | tremon | yes. simply uncompressing and recompressing will never work unless you split it between early-kernel and payload again |
| 19:00.47 | vlt | The x/y problem here is that the current Debian 8 kernel doesnât boot on one of our Xen dom0 (a rather old Xen 4.1.2 installation) as domU :-/ |
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| 19:02.01 | tremon | you think that's because of the compression method? it may be (I have no experience with xen) but it's one of last things I'd have thought of |
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| 19:05.33 | vlt | tremon: #xen thinks it |
| 19:06.18 | tremon | well one would assume they know a thing or two about xen :) |
| 19:06.26 | vlt | tremon: They know that XZ support was added in a later version. We have other machines with newer xen where Debian 8 works just fine. |
| 19:06.45 | tremon | I think you're stuck with a kernel rebuild |
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| 19:07.35 | vlt | Can I install a different kernel? Is there a "legacy" kernel version in the official repos? |
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| 19:07.48 | greycat | You can add a wheezy source if you want a wheezy kernel. |
| 19:07.51 | tremon | even if you were able to split the compressed and uncompressed parts, you might still end up with a kernel that only knows how to uncompress itself using the old method |
| 19:08.45 | vlt | hmmm |
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| 19:09.37 | vlt | I think Iâll have to update the xen host then. Via serial from 200 km away. Fun! |
| 19:09.58 | vlt | Thanks, tremon and greycat! |
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| 19:12.40 | ppkk | Can anyone explain a simple reality of gpg keys? The host name of both public and private keys are the same. ??? |
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| 19:13.24 | ppkk | gpg --list-keys is the same as gpg --list-private-keys |
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| 19:13.55 | mutante | ppkk: gpg: Invalid option "--list-private-keys" |
| 19:14.08 | ppkk | E.g., 6382285E. This seems weird, since I don't want to give away the private key. Just want to make sure. |
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| 19:14.53 | mutante | ppkk: --list-secret-keys |
| 19:15.10 | mutante | and no, the output is not the same |
| 19:15.18 | ppkk | gpg --list-secret-keys |
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| 19:15.38 | mutante | that just tells you which private keys you have imported |
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| 19:15.55 | mutante | for me --list-keys is a lot more, since i have keys from other people |
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| 19:16.06 | mutante | where of course i dont have their private keys |
| 19:16.14 | ppkk | I just did gpg --key-gen so I didn't import anything. |
| 19:16.27 | mutante | in that situation it happens to be the same, yea |
| 19:16.30 | ppkk | I just did gpg ---gen-key |
| 19:16.37 | mutante | simply because you have no other keys besides your onw |
| 19:16.39 | mutante | own |
| 19:16.44 | ppkk | Okay making sure. |
| 19:17.42 | ppkk | It's safe to use it and share it then...and I can make a revocation with it too? |
| 19:18.15 | XndrK | I am trying to update Flash for Chromium on Debian Jessie and have downloaded a file called "flash_player_ppapi_linux.x86_64.tar.gz". I extracted it and found a folder containing the LGPL, two files "libpepflashplayer.so", "manifest.json", and the README, which said nothing on where to put them. Where do I put them so Chromium can access them and I have an updated Flash version/ |
| 19:18.17 | XndrK | ? |
| 19:18.18 | mutante | ppkk: yes, but i would recommend to let your key expire after a year or something. don't let it be valid until forever |
| 19:18.41 | ppkk | Agreed. |
| 19:18.44 | mutante | ppkk: then make the revocation cert, store it in a safe place.. upload key to keyserver |
| 19:18.57 | mutante | ppkk: then you can tell others the keyid and they just get it from server |
| 19:20.37 | ppkk | And what if I want to use the same key for two "user" accounts? Can I copy .gnupg directory, provided perms are the same to the other user ? |
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| 19:21.34 | mutante | ppkk: you can copy it, but using separate keys per user seems cleaner solution |
| 19:22.21 | mutante | ppkk: also, you can have multiple subkeys on one key..btw |
| 19:23.24 | ppkk | I'm not as knowledgeable with subkeys. How can that help? |
| 19:23.29 | XndrK | any help? |
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| 19:26.49 | awal1 | any tool for find out the exact color name/format (hex triplets in RGB format) used by X gtk2/3-qt theme? |
| 19:27.49 | ppkk | Oh: "subkeys are like a separate key pair, but automatically associated with your main key pair." Hmmm, I suppose you can import then, export, etc |
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| 19:30.53 | awal1 | Xndrk, you are talking about pepperflashplugin-nonfree of chromium? |
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| 19:33.45 | tacomaster1 | Hello I was wondering, is there a way to fully uninstall gnome 3 and all dependencies? Basically i want to switch to mate desktop but with out all the un-needed dependencies. |
| 19:34.20 | tacomaster1 | could i just apt-get autoremove gnome? |
| 19:34.26 | abrotman | try it and see ... |
| 19:34.34 | greycat | bot has a factoid for removing gnome 2.x but not for 3.x yet |
| 19:34.41 | abrotman | because why would you want to?! |
| 19:34.47 | abrotman | tacomaster1: you can also use tasksel perhaps |
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| 19:36.25 | tacomaster1 | abrotman: I am not a big fan of gnome 3 and i just don't want a bunch of unused packages on my machine. Does mate support composite? |
| 19:36.46 | awal1 | Xndrk, you don't need to download stuff from the web. If you are running chromium + pepperflashplugin-nonfree (amd64 arch), just run as root: update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install (--status for check versions installed/available). If your arch is i386 (32 bit), so forget it, google has dropped support for 32b. |
| 19:36.47 | abrotman | FIIK, I'd prefer the MATE based on gtk2 would die in a fiery crash |
| 19:37.15 | abrotman | tacomaster1: if you installed it with tasksel, it should be able to remove it also |
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| 19:38.41 | tacomaster1 | abrotman: would this be best to switch to tty1 before doing this with tasksel? |
| 19:38.53 | awal1 | tacomaster1, mate supports compositing yes, (at least in stretch/sid version) |
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| 19:39.14 | tacomaster1 | awal1: I'm on debian stable |
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| 19:40.13 | awal1 | tacomaster1, you can remove all gnome stuff, but that will not be easy, many pkgs (almost gtk2/3 ones based have deps or recommends on gnome stuff |
| 19:40.52 | greycat | I think he's OK with leaving libs that are used by *other* applications |
| 19:40.57 | awal1 | if you want we can try :P |
| 19:40.59 | greycat | Maybe. |
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| 19:41.08 | abrotman | tacomaster1: yes, use the tty, and make sure your sshd is working |
| 19:41.29 | awal1 | also mate and gnome share many stuff |
| 19:41.48 | tacomaster1 | Brb ill tell you how it goes :D |
| 19:41.50 | abrotman | tacomaster1: if you want, you can purge base X libraries, watch all Xorg/Gnome-ish things be purged, then install the xorg and mate packages |
| 19:42.10 | abrotman | tacomaster1: also, you might want to install irssi so you can IRC from the console if needed |
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| 19:42.38 | abrotman | or just go away and let 'er rip ... |
| 19:42.38 | tacomaster1 | abrotman: ahh i got a few computers near me. i can irc on any of them |
| 19:42.41 | abrotman | oh k |
| 19:42.43 | abrotman | :) |
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| 19:44.09 | awal1 | tacomaster1, in stable branch (jessie, now) packages are not upgraded (execpt security or important functionality stuff); for avoid losing your time, I suggest you install mate desktop just alongside gnome and use it as default; gnome will be there if any... |
| 19:44.35 | abrotman | that has nothing to do with his question .. |
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| 19:46.37 | awal1 | well, if he wants to remove it, thats not a big deal. the factoid for gnome2 is perfectly appliable for gnome3, with a bit of extra commands |
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| 19:56.56 | afx_ | Hello ! Can i use rsync with /source1 /destination1 /source2 /destination2 ? |
| 19:57.44 | greycat | Sounds like you want to run two separate rsyncs, either in series or in parallel. |
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| 19:58.48 | afx_ | greycat, shall I use a script for this ? would like to do this serially |
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| 19:59.26 | greycat | rsync /source1 /destination1 ; rsync /source2 /destination2 |
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| 19:59.46 | afx_ | thank you ! |
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| 20:04.16 | tacomaster1 | well it installed mate but it did not remove gnome 3 when i unselected it |
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| 20:05.28 | afx_ | greycat, I am syncing from a remote machine with rsync -avP user@ip:/source/dir /local/dir . Is there a way I can pass the password for the remote too ? |
| 20:05.36 | tacomaster1 | plus i have some weird thing happening where i have to manually go back to x. Its like when i boot now i get a black screen with no prompts but i have to ctrl+alt+f7 to see gdm |
| 20:07.06 | greycat | afx_: after you get tired of typing the passphrase for your private key over and over, you learn how to set up ssh-agent and ssh-add |
| 20:07.29 | greycat | (If you haven't got from "password" to "passphrase for your private key" yet, then first you make that step.) |
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| 20:09.45 | afx_ | greycat, so I have to setup an ssh-agend? |
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| 20:11.27 | awal1 | tacomaster1, gnome3 is called 'gnome', a metapackages which installs all gnome stuff |
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| 20:26.20 | x86iac | noone with problems? eh? or did you pawn all the trouble makers off onto ubuntu? ;) |
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| 20:31.29 | Fat-Zer | x86iac: I've got a problem, I was gonna to just google the solution, but If you insist... how I can provide a -jX option to make running by debuild |
| 20:32.06 | Fat-Zer | and how to disable the test phase? |
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| 20:37.34 | maurer | Is there a way to tell debian that some of the repos I've added to sources.list do not have all the archs I use on my system? |
| 20:38.00 | maurer | My system is sometimes used for some cross-work, so it fetches things from e.g. arm and mips in a default apt-get update |
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| 20:38.20 | maurer | but some repos I've added provide only x86 packages, and I'd prefer for apt-get update to not error, since this is expected |
| 20:38.46 | x86iac | Fat-Zer: is the solution really on google? |
| 20:38.51 | TomTomTosch | maurer: deb [arch=amd64,i386] <url ...> |
| 20:39.01 | maurer | TomTomTosch: thanks |
| 20:41.18 | Fat-Zer | x86iac: I found DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=4" on slashdon, bat haven't tried it yet... |
| 20:41.40 | Fat-Zer | *on ask ubuntu |
| 20:42.26 | Fat-Zer | *ment stackoverflow not slashdot |
| 20:42.40 | Fat-Zer | *but haven't |
| 20:43.17 | Neville | Anybody familar with monitor calibration with 8.5 and xfce desktop? I am using Displaycal and will add a dispwin command in the /etc/rc.local |
| 20:43.53 | x86iac | Fat-Zer: i'm guessing you have a typo error in the command ;) |
| 20:44.20 | Fat-Zer | x86iac: m? |
| 20:45.52 | x86iac | you have 5 cpus? |
| 20:46.10 | x86iac | i think it is j = number of cpus - 1 |
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| 20:47.18 | spacebug^ | in which package is the command "file" ? |
| 20:47.27 | RoyK | x86iac: I read some time back that using -j$(( ncores + 1 )) would be a god idea |
| 20:47.49 | RoyK | spacebug^: file: /usr/bin/file |
| 20:48.07 | RoyK | spacebug^: from dpkg -S /usr/bin/file |
| 20:48.33 | spacebug^ | RoyK: yeah but from which package do I install it? |
| 20:48.38 | Fat-Zer | x86iac: it's number of cpus + 1, not minus |
| 20:48.41 | RoyK | spacebug^: file |
| 20:48.54 | Fat-Zer | oh |
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| 20:49.13 | Fat-Zer | x86iac: oh, sure, a typo overthere... |
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| 20:49.25 | spacebug^ | RoyK: ah ok.. sorry :) |
| 20:50.00 | RoyK | x86iac: ncpus + 1, since some time is always spent on I/O |
| 20:51.00 | RoyK | x86iac: or ncpus + n if you have a lot of cores (and slow I/O) |
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| 20:54.22 | teraflops | notify-osd is fine too |
| 20:54.30 | teraflops | ooops |
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| 20:57.14 | Fat-Zer | ok, where I can find the list of options may be passed throw DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? |
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| 20:57.59 | fredl | hmm.... |
| 20:58.15 | fredl | anybody around with great big ipv6 skills? |
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| 20:58.28 | fredl | because I just don't understand this shit anymore |
| 20:58.44 | ajp-tech | Hello, I try to make the lvm2 running on debian Jessie but I am in huge troubles even enabling the service. I see just an error message 'Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory'. I would appreciate any advice here. |
| 20:59.11 | fredl | I have a bridge interface, it has a Scope:Global ip6 address |
| 20:59.52 | fredl | when I ping it from outside my network I do see ICMP6 echo requests coming in |
| 20:59.58 | fredl | (with tcpdump) |
| 21:00.09 | fredl | I just never see any replies being sent back |
| 21:00.13 | Fat-Zer | ajp-tech: when exactly do you see this message? |
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| 21:00.47 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: when running 'systemctl enable lvm2' |
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| 21:01.24 | x86iac | fredl: check the /etc/sysctl.conf for net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all=0 |
| 21:01.29 | ajp-tech | ajp-tech: I have feeling like I miss some kind of dependecy but I have no idea what could that be. The lvm2 package is installed. |
| 21:01.32 | x86iac | ipv6 |
| 21:01.46 | ascended | using /etc/network/interfaces can i have it on DHCP but override the DNS servers and DNS search? |
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| 21:02.34 | x86iac | ascended: /etc/nsswitch and /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:02.44 | fredl | it's not in there x86iac |
| 21:03.03 | ascended | resolv.conf says not to edit |
| 21:03.27 | Fat-Zer | ajp-tech: have you tried to just reboot (if you can)? AFAIK most of units on debian are created dnamicly as just wraps around /etc/init.d scripts |
| 21:03.38 | x86iac | are you using dhcpcd? then the -R will not overwrite it - dhcp overwrites it is all |
| 21:03.44 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: also, when I try to start the lvm2 services, I got into troubles with lvm-activation.service which does not start |
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| 21:03.56 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: rebooting does not help me unfortunately |
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| 21:04.14 | fredl | this ipv6 stuff is really driving me apeshit :/ |
| 21:04.27 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: the activation and activation-early fail to start ... I will provide journalctl output somewhere |
| 21:04.34 | x86iac | does your isp really use it? |
| 21:05.56 | fredl | x86iac - yes they do |
| 21:06.01 | fredl | check my whois |
| 21:06.38 | fredl | other than the ICMP6, when I try telnetting into a port also see packets coming in but nothing goes out |
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| 21:07.06 | Fat-Zer | ajp-tech: lvm2 script makes nothing more but "vgchange -aay" can you run it yourself? |
| 21:07.13 | fredl | I have to say... I'm NOT sure about the routing I configured |
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| 21:08.18 | x86iac | fredl: you have firewall up? |
| 21:08.35 | x86iac | are you able to browser out? |
| 21:09.03 | fredl | x86iac - I did but took that down for now |
| 21:09.08 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/782898/ |
| 21:09.14 | holycow | hi all. systemd seems to start up services just fine at startup. however, i cannot use sysctl restart whatever.service on any service for some reason. i get sysctl: cannot stat / pro/sys |
| 21:09.19 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: I get ' device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: Invalid argument |
| 21:09.31 | holycow | i'm not googling anything useful. anyone have any tips on what to look at next? |
| 21:09.33 | hassoon | wtf |
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| 21:09.45 | hassoon | why has notify-osd command disappeared |
| 21:09.58 | hassoon | it's installed but the cli doesn't recognize it |
| 21:09.59 | fredl | x86iac, I'm using www.ipv6scanner.com |
| 21:10.14 | fredl | That *does* say that all my ports are being filtered |
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| 21:10.33 | fredl | So logically speaking I'd say maybe something in my router somewhere |
| 21:10.43 | jhutchins | fredl: Possibly not getting passed by your router, yeah. |
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| 21:10.50 | fredl | however, ip6 packets do come through the router to my server |
| 21:11.04 | fredl | just my debian box does not talk back |
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| 21:11.44 | Fat-Zer | ajp-tech: hm... that sounds strange... aren't you running ownbuild kernel? |
| 21:11.55 | holycow | nm, i'm an idiot. sorry for the noise. |
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| 21:13.09 | fredl | I bet it's ufw doing something weird, even after I disabled it there are still iptables entries |
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| 21:15.18 | x86iac | did you flush the rules? |
| 21:15.20 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: I have not installed the machine myself, but afaik just the graphical installation with default options was used. |
| 21:15.43 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: I am surprised that it has not had the lvm2 installed by default but that was it |
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| 21:15.57 | fredl | x86iac, nope, just ufw disable |
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| 21:16.22 | leba2 | Does Samba Debian package come with init scripts, or do I have to do this https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/InitScript ? |
| 21:16.27 | ascended | hmm so how can i add a DNS server when using DHCP? |
| 21:16.39 | ascended | i dont have control of the DHCP server |
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| 21:17.51 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: this looks suspicious: http://paste.debian.net/782897/ |
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| 21:18.03 | tom99 | that's what SHE said |
| 21:18.13 | fredl | flushed the rues x86iac, no difference |
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| 21:19.08 | fredl | x86iac, http://paste.debian.net/782900/ |
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| 21:20.40 | fredl | jhutchins, doesn't look like anything to do with the router, packets seem to pass unaltered, I exposed the server on the router to let all ip6 traffic through to it |
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| 21:21.10 | Fat-Zer | ajp-tech: have also some troubles with raid? |
| 21:21.45 | Fat-Zer | ajp-tech: ans have you got /proc/config.gz or a kernel config in /boot/ ? if so could you try to grep it if LVM is enabled? |
| 21:21.45 | fredl | hmm somebody doing a portscan on me? |
| 21:21.58 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: hard to say, I just installed the lvm2 to enable software raid. AFAIK, the board does not have any hardware raid controller. |
| 21:22.38 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: what to grep for< |
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| 21:23.36 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: I gues you might have asked for this: 'CONFIG_MD_RAID1=m' |
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| 21:24.50 | jhutchins | fredl: I have two Global addresses, and niether one responds to the public ping servers. |
| 21:25.05 | jhutchins | I wonder if ICMP is disabled by default, or if it's just the router. |
| 21:25.46 | fredl | not sure about ICMP, I checked what x86iac told me to check in sysctl.cong |
| 21:26.04 | fredl | jhutchins, you getting any portscan results? |
| 21:26.07 | wewlad | hello, pals |
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| 21:26.34 | wewlad | I'm back with my uncommon ssh-connection problem about unreadable cyrillic :( |
| 21:26.56 | fredl | jhutchins, can you try a telnet smtp.3dn.nl smtp? |
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| 21:28.27 | chaddy | wewlad: all fonts available on client? |
| 21:28.50 | wewlad | chaddy: I guess so, how do I check? |
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| 21:29.22 | chaddy | wewlad: perhaps need something like "unifont" from apt |
| 21:29.27 | wewlad | [I mean I can echo some cyrillic symbols] |
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| 21:31.07 | holycow | hmmm |
| 21:31.18 | ajp-tech | Fat-Zer: ok, trying reboot to finish some force action, will be back soon |
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| 21:40.34 | x86iac | fredl: curl -v smtp.3dn.nl looks good from here |
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| 21:41.00 | fredl | x86iac, I just removed the AAAA |
| 21:41.09 | fredl | so you probably tested the ipv4 |
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| 21:41.25 | fredl | I can't keep it disfunctional for too long |
| 21:42.05 | fredl | sorry about not saying that before, thought nothing was going on |
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| 21:45.00 | x86iac | is the ipv6 kernel module loaded? |
| 21:45.39 | fredl | ehm... that's what it's called literally? |
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| 21:45.59 | fredl | BTW, now have ICMP6 and SMTP enabled on router to 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833 |
| 21:46.01 | x86iac | lsmod |
| 21:46.43 | fredl | http://paste.debian.net/782902/ |
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| 21:46.54 | x86iac | hey that's the ipv6 of my toaster ;) |
| 21:47.13 | tom99 | wait appliances have ipv6 now? |
| 21:47.22 | fredl | phones do |
| 21:47.22 | tom99 | so you can use your smartphone over wifi to control them? |
| 21:47.59 | fredl | bottomline is.... ICMP6 goes through my router, arrives at my interface, nothing is done with it |
| 21:48.04 | x86iac | home appliances all internet ready |
| 21:48.07 | fredl | no replies are sent |
| 21:48.11 | miskatonic | no, so the manufacturers may control yopu better and upply remotely obnoxious patches |
| 21:48.13 | fredl | that's odd right? |
| 21:48.18 | x86iac | modprobe ipv6 |
| 21:48.38 | fredl | there is no such module?!?! |
| 21:48.51 | fredl | it's built in in kernel isn't it? |
| 21:49.29 | x86iac | http://www.telecom.otago.ac.nz/tele301/student_html/v6bootcamp-enable-disable.html |
| 21:49.40 | x86iac | ^^ don't know if that is helpful |
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| 21:50.48 | fredl | I don't think so, have ipv6 enabled, think that's default these days |
| 21:51.01 | x86iac | /proc/net/if_inet6 |
| 21:51.08 | fredl | one thing that could be a problem is that it's going over bridging device |
| 21:51.24 | fredl | yeah that file exists |
| 21:52.04 | x86iac | that is the ipv6 |
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| 21:52.51 | _unreal_ | hello, ok I just finished building this https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CuBox |
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| 21:54.21 | bhuey | Hi |
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| 21:54.59 | bhuey | What does splitconfig.p do in for the kernel build ? How can I make changes to a cofig so that it can compile with my own options enabled ? |
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| 21:55.24 | fredl | Well, hrmmm.... I need the stupid bridge device but thats only reason I can think of why something as simple as ICMPv6 wouldn't work |
| 21:55.30 | fredl | *ponder* |
| 21:55.43 | x86iac | tom99: i made the mistake of installing my refrig with a bottle of miller beer in it and now since i only drink lowenbrau the damn thing won't stop sending me emails that i am low on miller beer ;) |
| 21:56.42 | _unreal_ | ok that sucks, I was about to transfer the build files but the thumb drive that is 16gigs has 14gigs of data on it. @#$$@# I guess I should transfer that off of there |
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| 22:43.36 | Mutter | Yo yo yo! |
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| 22:45.18 | x86iac | pulls up Mutter's saggy jeans for him and flicks his hair knot |
| 22:45.45 | badgerSqueegee | is there a way to install a single package from testing/. |
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| 22:46.00 | Mutter | x86iac: thanks |
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| 22:46.58 | x86iac | badgerSqueegee: use dpkg |
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| 22:48.29 | Hardbasslover | https://discord.gg/fGa4Zhttps://discord.gg/fGa4Z |
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| 22:52.02 | badgerSqueegee | x86iac: thanks, care to spoonfeed a command? :) |
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| 22:53.36 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: you shouldn't install packages from testing on stable |
| 22:53.42 | jmcnaught | !ssb |
| 22:53.42 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 22:53.43 | x86iac | what is the package dkpg -i any.deb after you download it and ALL it's dependencies |
| 22:53.56 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: you can try a simple backport. what is the package? |
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| 22:54.44 | badgerSqueegee | jmcnaught: dnscrypt-proxy |
| 22:55.31 | jmcnaught | ,checkbackport dnscrypt-proxy |
| 22:55.31 | judd | Backporting package dnscrypt-proxy in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
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| 22:55.57 | badgerSqueegee | hmm, i have jessie backports in my sources... |
| 22:56.18 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: you should be able to do a backport. This recompiles the package for the libaries that are in jessie. It's a manual process that needs to be repeated for any updates |
| 22:58.24 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: what judd checks is only the build dependencies, you may need to manually backport other packages that dnscrypt-proxy depends on |
| 22:58.38 | badgerSqueegee | jmcnaught: so jessie-backports is adequate in my sources? (im new to debian) |
| 22:59.05 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: you'll need to follow the instructions in the ssb factoid from dpkg above |
| 22:59.21 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: or alternatively https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
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| 23:04.46 | wald0 | why there's not a backport of the chromium package on wheezy? (i ask specially because i thought that i have see it before) |
| 23:05.07 | chaddy | wald0: 32 bit? |
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| 23:06.01 | wald0 | yes |
| 23:06.20 | x86iac | try seamonkey better then chrome |
| 23:06.28 | chaddy | upstream from google has stopped on 32bit chrome? |
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| 23:07.44 | wald0 | yes i have see that on chrome, but there was versions much more recent than the version 37 of chromium |
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| 23:09.22 | miesco | ,nonfree debian dvd |
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| 23:11.59 | miesco | dpkg: nonfree debian dvd |
| 23:12.00 | dpkg | no idea, miesco |
| 23:12.20 | miesco | dpkg: what is the link to the nonfree dvd |
| 23:12.20 | dpkg | miesco: what are you talking about? |
| 23:12.36 | miesco | dpkg: install |
| 23:12.36 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 23:13.17 | miesco | Whats the link to the debian dvd that has nonfree drivers? |
| 23:13.20 | chaddy | miesco: the expert mode install allows for adding nonfree/contrib sources |
| 23:13.44 | miesco | chaddy: Yea well I need the drivers for my wifi |
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| 23:14.03 | x86iac | and add more partitions |
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| 23:14.40 | chaddy | miesco: that's a bit of a chicken and egg problem, then |
| 23:14.54 | miesco | Where is the nonfree debian dvd |
| 23:14.57 | chaddy | do you have wired connectivity? |
| 23:15.16 | miesco | chaddy: Where is the nonfree debian dvd? |
| 23:15.35 | chaddy | which one? |
| 23:16.47 | miesco | chaddy: Something that lets me install debian with nonfree firmware on amd64 |
| 23:17.05 | chaddy | so the netinstall, expert mode, lan cable |
| 23:17.15 | zyley | you probably want http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/ |
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| 23:18.40 | miesco | I'll just use the free one |
| 23:19.06 | jmcnaught | !firmware images |
| 23:19.07 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 23:19.36 | jmcnaught | miesco: there is a netinst image with most of the non-free firmwares, it's also linked to in the chapter about missing firmwares in the install manual |
| 23:20.22 | miesco | Well I have a ethernet if I need it anyway |
| 23:20.46 | miesco | do I just do this? `cp file.iso /dev/sdc1`? |
| 23:20.48 | chaddy | miesco: you should be fine in an expert mode install, then |
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| 23:21.20 | chaddy | dd if=some.iso of=/dev/device*not*partition |
| 23:21.55 | chaddy | so /dev/sdc if you're sure that's the device |
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| 23:22.22 | jmcnaught | you don't need to use dd, cp is fine. but you do need to write to the device. "lsblk" or running "dmesg" after plugging it in should tell you the device to use |
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| 23:23.15 | miesco | jmcnaught: I hope its the right one! |
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| 23:23.29 | jmcnaught | miesco: don't just hope, check |
| 23:23.39 | miesco | I think it is |
| 23:23.56 | chaddy | unplug, dmesg, replug, dmesg |
| 23:24.15 | miesco | ah its probably it |
| 23:24.45 | miesco | Should I type `sync` after? |
| 23:25.05 | jmcnaught | yes |
| 23:25.08 | x86iac | what is in the /etc/fstab (about sync) |
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| 23:25.39 | jmcnaught | most people don't have random USB sticks in their fstab |
| 23:26.03 | x86iac | tsk tsk using udev ... |
| 23:26.14 | miesco | Anyone use luks? |
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| 23:26.30 | x86iac | ^^ bad security if not controlling it manually |
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| 23:26.38 | miesco | x86iac: luks? |
| 23:26.49 | x86iac | no |
| 23:27.03 | miesco | x86iac: Do you use it?> |
| 23:27.09 | x86iac | no |
| 23:27.56 | jmcnaught | miesco: the install can configure LUKS encryption for you |
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| 23:35.11 | qrtx | anyone here have audible working under wine? |
| 23:35.17 | qrtx | it freezes every time I try and auth |
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| 23:37.47 | Fat-Zer | is there a way to use plain folder with locally-created *.deb's as a local repository for apt? |
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| 23:41.58 | x86iac | what is a non-plain folder? |
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| 23:42.44 | RoyK | Fat-Zer: perhaps an apache install is easier |
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| 23:43.35 | x86iac | check apt.onf |
| 23:43.40 | x86iac | check apt.conf |
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| 23:45.12 | Fat-Zer | x86iac: a folder with some additional filestructure/subdirs |
| 23:45.20 | jmcnaught | Fat-Zer: if you check "man sources.list" it can understand file URIs, but the directory would still need the files that makes it a repository. You could look at using reprepro for that |
| 23:45.28 | Fat-Zer | RoyK: IMHO it's an overkill =) |
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| 23:47.12 | badgerSqueegee | jmcnaught: thanks. building the source now :) |
| 23:49.54 | badgerSqueegee | so the best way to install a built package is with dpkg? |
| 23:50.32 | jmcnaught | badgerSqueegee: yes |
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| 23:51.50 | fredl | damnit... |
| 23:52.12 | fredl | do me favor folks, check if you can connect to 83.161.146.194:25 |
| 23:52.34 | fredl | this router is really starting to baffle me :/ |
| 23:53.37 | fredl | *ugh* got it working again |
| 23:54.23 | fredl | if I enable IPV6 port forwarding it no longer does IPV4 forwarding |
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| 23:56.22 | wewlad | hey, could anyone explain on what level is it broken that I'm getting unreadable chars when connecting over ssh instead of cyrillic chars? |
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| 23:56.42 | wewlad | is it a terminal issue? is it ssh server issue? what is it? |
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| 23:57.03 | orlock | wewlad: hmm - tried a different terminal? |
| 23:57.24 | orlock | wewlad: did you accidentally read some binary? |
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| 23:57.36 | jmcnaught | wewlad: missing fonts, or not using utf-8 encoding in your terminal emulator |
| 23:57.37 | wewlad | orlock: I doubt so |
| 23:57.48 | orlock | is it only the ssh connection? does the password prompt appear ok>? |
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| 23:58.50 | wewlad | orlock: just tried a different terminal - same thing |
| 23:59.05 | orlock | at what point does the text garble? |
| 23:59.08 | wewlad | both password prompts appear ok |
| 23:59.26 | Fat-Zer | jmcnaught: thanks |
| 23:59.44 | orlock | wow, weird |
| 23:59.45 | wewlad | orlock: https://i.imgur.com/YU3xlPU.png |
