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| 00:27.16 | test2 | what is the german, help channel on Debian? Sry my english is very bad. |
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| 00:31.26 | ryouma | !de |
| 00:31.26 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 00:31.29 | ryouma | test2: |
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| 00:32.05 | test2 | Thx of lot?! ;) |
| 00:32.22 | chaddy | salty |
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| 00:35.17 | bhurstpdx1 | any useful script ideas for an amature learing the shell? |
| 00:35.56 | bhurstpdx1 | nothing realated to backups though |
| 00:36.21 | jercos | my traditional first semi-serious project in any new language, shell included, is to write an IRC bot :p |
| 00:37.35 | bhurstpdx1 | 0ooo good one, thanks! |
| 00:38.01 | jercos | from a more interactive and less programmatic perspective, the "find", "grep", and "xargs" commands are incredibly flexible and useful tools. reading their man pages and practicing selecting groups of files, or files with given content can come in quite handy. |
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| 00:39.19 | ryouma | also parallel |
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| 00:40.58 | Orbinaut | Is it possible to specify multiple options when running a shell script? |
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| 00:48.46 | Wyzard | Orbinaut: command-line options are bound to $1, $2, etc. within the script. |
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| 00:50.05 | jercos | there's also the bash builtin "shift" that allows for more dynamic argument consumption |
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| 00:50.32 | Orbinaut | I have a script with options, but maybe I implemented wrong |
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| 00:51.27 | Orbinaut | Right now, I have if [$1 = something] ; do something fi |
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| 00:51.40 | jercos | if you're trying to implement flags, there's a builtin "getopts" documented in the bash man page... |
| 00:51.43 | jercos | oh |
| 00:51.52 | jercos | well first off [ is a command. ] should be spaced off as well. |
| 00:51.54 | missmbob | Orbinaut: ask #bash for scripting help |
| 00:54.00 | Orbinaut | alright, I shall go there then, thank you |
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| 00:54.13 | socomm | Orbinaut: Yes, also check out #bash. |
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| 01:28.45 | internat | Howdy, IM wondering if there are any better alternative to showing network usage on a router than ntop? |
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| 01:30.30 | test2 | Can everyone "Harden" as Programm? 7.1 Das Paket harden |
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| 01:31.14 | hiexpo | !harden |
| 01:31.14 | dpkg | To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>. |
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| 01:33.22 | test2 | Debian security ok, have you this only english or in german? |
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| 01:33.40 | hiexpo | !gm |
| 01:33.40 | dpkg | gm is, like, Gambia |
| 01:33.47 | hiexpo | oh |
| 01:34.09 | test2 | Gambia? |
| 01:34.23 | hiexpo | oops sorry test2 |
| 01:34.29 | test2 | ;) |
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| 01:34.48 | hiexpo | ! german |
| 01:34.48 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 01:36.22 | hiexpo | test2, you can install it in german |
| 01:36.44 | test2 | yes, in this channel i use. In this channel all user Sleep ;) This my Problem ;) |
| 01:37.18 | hiexpo | oh you speak english though no? test2 |
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| 01:37.39 | hiexpo | test2, what is your problem you are having? |
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| 01:39.45 | test2 | @hixpo i search help wie "harden" debian virtual-server ... my english is very bad... and in the channel #debian.de ...the user a sleep... in german time 03:43 @ night ;) |
| 01:39.59 | test2 | ups with |
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| 01:44.49 | hiexpo | let me find it test2 |
| 01:45.56 | test2 | Ok, my fail ;) |
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| 01:54.17 | tacomaster | Ok before i start I already know how to install wireless firmware to get my wireless working. My question is if it is possible to only allow that firmware from the non-free repo and reject all other non-free software from even showing? I want this to be a fully open source laptop besides the wifi driver |
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| 01:57.50 | hiexpo | tacomaster, yeh |
| 01:58.50 | tacomaster | hiexpo: do you have some website that would explain this more? |
| 01:59.17 | hiexpo | tacomaster, just use the reg repo's |
| 02:00.24 | tacomaster | but i have to enable the non-free repos to get the iwlwifi firmware. I dont want any other app to even show up from that repo besides that firmware |
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| 02:01.44 | hiexpo | just install that than |
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| 02:02.16 | tacomaster | you mean use dpkg -i to install directly? |
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| 02:04.24 | awal1 | I noticied that gnome, mate xfce, and maybe other DE/WM's append %U at the end of some commands nautilus, caja, thunar, firefox.... I looked at exec key man but I dont really get the meaning https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html Trying to add some keyboard shortcut's for some file managers (caja/thunar/pcmanfm) and not sure if I really must add %U at the end of the command |
| 02:05.20 | awal1 | at the end of the command for launch nautilus, caja, thunar, firefox... ^ |
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| 02:09.28 | awal1 | I usually just launch pcmanfm &thunar with "thuna" "pcmanfm", or adding & if via cli, but a bit confused now :P |
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| 03:22.23 | tmh1999 | Hi hope guru here could help me out. I want to find build log of debian package. Found https://buildd.debian.org but I cannot find packages I need. |
| 03:22.38 | tmh1999 | for example : https://buildd.debian.org/status/recent.php?pkg=gcc&a=&suite=jessie&limit=1000 gave me nothing |
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| 03:28.38 | awal1 | friday/saturday nights debian channel users are sleepy or drunk :P |
| 03:30.48 | tmh1999 | awal1 : just try to give myself a chance ^^ |
| 03:31.01 | tmh1999 | kind of desperate ... |
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| 03:31.38 | awal1 | tmh1999, ask tomorrow :P |
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| 03:32.17 | awal1 | aslo there is #debian in OFTC server |
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| 03:33.40 | tmh1999 | thanks I will it a try |
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| 03:52.17 | wald0 | i started using httpredir.debian.org for the repositories which seemed more reliable, but in fact i have see already two times a "remote hang up" broken connections trying to use apt |
| 03:52.25 | wald0 | so it is httpredir.debian.org a not so reliable source? |
| 03:53.21 | jmcnaught | !httpredir issues |
| 03:53.22 | dpkg | The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code). Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>. |
| 03:53.36 | jmcnaught | wald0: ^^ some people have problems with it, there are alternatives |
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| 03:54.33 | wald0 | jmcnaught: thx, to use XX was just the thing that I tried to avoid :) |
| 03:54.49 | wald0 | i have see my repositories to become the fastest ones to the slowest ones depending of my location |
| 03:55.33 | wald0 | is there other alternatives? |
| 03:55.43 | wald0 | automated ones i mean |
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| 03:55.52 | wald0 | wonders why not disable from the list the ones that hangs up |
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| 03:56.34 | jmcnaught | i think httpredir works well for most people most of the time |
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| 04:13.52 | hanasaki | how do you make a new cert for dovecot? |
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| 04:21.34 | jmcnaught | hanasaki: "openssl req -out mycert.csr -new -newkey rsa:4096 -nodes -keyout myprivatekey.key" and then you submit the "mycert.csr" Certifcate Signing Request to a Certiticate Authority (https://startssl.com/ is a free one) |
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| 04:22.14 | jmcnaught | hanasaki: they will give you a signed certificate that email clients will accept without needing to approve the unsafe, unsigned certificate |
| 04:22.43 | jmcnaught | hanasaki: you could also use let's encrypt for this, but it would take some setting up for the automated renewals |
| 04:23.02 | hanasaki | lets encrupt? |
| 04:23.43 | jmcnaught | hanasaki: https://letsencrypt.org/ it's a free service that gives out free signed certificates, requires some automation. there are packages for it in jessie-backports |
| 04:24.37 | hanasaki | thakn you |
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| 04:25.16 | hanasaki | anyone having trouble with icedove or thunderbird? when I click accept / confirm for the self signed cert... it does nothing. dialog just remains |
| 04:25.59 | jmcnaught | hanasaki: is there a checkbox to permanently store the exception? |
| 04:26.03 | hanasaki | yes |
| 04:26.24 | hanasaki | check and unchecked... either way the "confirm exception:" dialog does nothing when I click on it |
| 04:26.28 | jmcnaught | i don't use self-signed certificates |
| 04:26.29 | hanasaki | cancel does dismiss the dialog |
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| 04:38.31 | hanasaki | jmcnaught: thanks. reguardless. dialog button is broken |
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| 04:45.27 | wald0 | jmcnaught: most of the time for me too, just "not enough" :), unfortunately |
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| 05:01.06 | simbalion | Hi, I did apt-get install mailutils on debian 8 but it doesn't seem to have installed or replaced the mail command properly, can someone help? |
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| 05:05.43 | jmcnaught | simbalion: "update-alternatives --display mailx" does that tell you what's going on? |
| 05:06.50 | simbalion | jmcnaught: yup, ' link currently points to /usr/bin/bsd-mailx', thanks |
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| 05:07.27 | jmcnaught | simbalion: you can use update-alternatives --config |
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| 05:08.06 | simbalion | jmcnaught: thanks, I just changed the symlink by hand heh |
| 05:09.54 | jmcnaught | simbalion: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html#s-diverse |
| 05:10.18 | simbalion | jmcnaught: thanks I'll give that a read |
| 05:10.45 | jmcnaught | simbalion: it's a cool Debian feature. You can look in /etc/alternatives to get an idea of what it covers |
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| 05:45.54 | KALASH | hey I'm on debian stretch with MATE 1.14.1 (debian-next is dead right now). I have a problem with the MATE indicator background in black and am wondering if there is a fix for this. see this: https://anonmgur.com/up/ee7105b1ab09ac0fce81787ea2276b0d.png |
| 05:46.06 | KALASH | the indicator used to be the same color as the panel |
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| 05:56.58 | KALASH | I did a work around in dconf editor org>mate>marco>general and then in their set compositing manager to true. I get a new indicator though but thats fine. |
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| 06:19.09 | heyitshound | Is this a joke? |
| 06:19.10 | heyitshound | https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment |
| 06:19.34 | heyitshound | I seriously hope it's some sort of sick joke, or someone got control over the wiki |
| 06:19.58 | heyitshound | "checking your male privilege" |
| 06:20.06 | heyitshound | "mansplaining" |
| 06:20.11 | heyitshound | "men who explain things" |
| 06:20.27 | heyitshound | "The Male Programmer Privilege Checklist" |
| 06:20.39 | heyitshound | I thought it was a joke, but I keep reading |
| 06:20.59 | heyitshound | It's sexist, irrelevant, demeaning, and hateful |
| 06:21.07 | heyitshound | Seriously unprofessional |
| 06:21.13 | heyitshound | How did this end up in the wiki? |
| 06:21.19 | heyitshound | Honestly curious. |
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| 06:21.28 | up2late | watch out, the PC poclice is in the room |
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| 06:34.49 | heyitshound | Is nobody going to answer me? |
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| 06:35.39 | heyitshound | How did you make it so an anti-harrassment policy harasses, defames, and attacks its users? |
| 06:35.44 | heyitshound | sorry, HALF its users |
| 06:36.14 | heyitshound | Seriously unprofessional. I'll be moving my servers to slack. |
| 06:36.25 | heyitshound | And I wont be pushing anything else upstream. |
| 06:36.28 | heyitshound | Good luck. |
| 06:37.17 | dutchfish | heyitshound, have you considered that half the world might be sleeping (i just popped in)? |
| 06:37.45 | heyitshound | Oh, dutchfish |
| 06:37.51 | heyitshound | here, this is what I'm referring to |
| 06:37.52 | heyitshound | https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment |
| 06:38.04 | heyitshound | On privilege and what we can do about it |
| 06:38.05 | heyitshound | Standing out in the crowd |
| 06:38.05 | heyitshound | Men who explain things |
| 06:38.05 | heyitshound | Mansplaining |
| 06:38.05 | heyitshound | The Male Programmer Privilege Checklist |
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| 06:38.18 | heyitshound | On privilege and what we can do about it |
| 06:38.18 | heyitshound | Standing out in the crowd |
| 06:38.18 | heyitshound | Men who explain things |
| 06:38.18 | heyitshound | Mansplaining |
| 06:38.18 | heyitshound | The Male Programmer Privilege Checklist |
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| 06:38.44 | heyitshound | Seriously sexist. |
| 06:38.50 | dutchfish | heyitshound, dont paste in here |
| 06:38.53 | heyitshound | Not even gonna bother. Just done with debian. |
| 06:39.03 | heyitshound | No more commits |
| 06:39.33 | up2late | lol |
| 06:39.35 | up2late | cta then |
| 06:39.37 | dutchfish | heyitshound, well, if you have any question i could help, but seriously don't throw mud, we are all volenteers. |
| 06:39.38 | up2late | cya |
| 06:39.41 | heyitshound | Not going to write code if it's going to be looked down upon for my gender. |
| 06:40.05 | heyitshound | You can't fight non-existent sexism with more sexism. |
| 06:40.08 | up2late | with a name like gilfhound69 u dont have much room to talk |
| 06:40.43 | heyitshound | golden imp latte foundation |
| 06:41.09 | up2late | means girl i'd like to fuck around these parts |
| 06:41.18 | heyitshound | Girl? |
| 06:41.22 | heyitshound | Why not grandmother? |
| 06:41.25 | heyitshound | Shitlord |
| 06:41.29 | up2late | lol |
| 06:41.32 | up2late | trolls... |
| 06:41.51 | heyitshound | >check your male privilege |
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| 06:41.56 | heyitshound | >not trolling |
| 06:42.00 | heyitshound | lol ok |
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| 06:42.14 | up2late | slaps heyitshound with his male "privilege |
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| 06:42.17 | heyitshound | anyways, im not pushing anything else upstream. Fuck this sexist bullshit. I'm out. |
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| 06:42.23 | up2late | LOL |
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| 06:44.56 | oho | hi |
| 06:45.02 | up2late | hi |
| 06:45.14 | oho | i think the debian wiki may have been hacked |
| 06:45.37 | up2late | ok? |
| 06:45.41 | oho | it's full of antimale sexist stuff |
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| 06:46.27 | oho | can someone fix it? it might trigger someone |
| 06:46.34 | up2late | it'll be ok |
| 06:46.36 | oho | it looks really bad |
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| 06:46.50 | up2late | example? |
| 06:47.20 | oho | it's biased against males |
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| 06:47.28 | oho | (of which i am now one) |
| 06:47.50 | up2late | trollol |
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| 06:48.29 | oho | so it's supposed to be like that? |
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| 06:48.46 | up2late | probably not |
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| 06:49.46 | up2late | call the p.c. police |
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| 06:52.18 | up2late | any other comments or did that answer your question? |
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| 06:52.46 | oho | so you don't care that it makes you all look incredibly ignorant? |
| 06:52.53 | oho | gg |
| 06:53.10 | oho | rip |
| 06:53.31 | up2late | lol |
| 06:53.35 | up2late | next |
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| 07:29.25 | RebelCoderW | Guys. I am using screen for serial port monitoring, but can't find a way to close it correctly. Does anyone here use it ? |
| 07:29.58 | RebelCoderW | I would connect to a device, and interact with it, but then I have to kill the terminal window and re open to re-connect. Ctrl+X does not work |
| 07:30.06 | RebelCoderW | any ideas ? |
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| 07:38.55 | zifxify | How to mount /usr at boot time with an initramfs? /usr is a on separate lv partition on vg (vg0) which is on a luks encrypted container (LVM on LUKS) |
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| 07:56.02 | sbstn | zifxify: I think you just need to configure crypttab and fstab, then update initramfs |
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| 07:59.51 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
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| 08:09.20 | zifxify | sbstn: crypttab is configured to unlock the device , fstab also contains /dev/mapper/vg0-usr and is available in userspace but systemd complains about /usr when not pre-mounted https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken/ |
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| 09:38.06 | Sygram | hi all |
| 09:38.19 | Sygram | im having some trouble with my debian installation |
| 09:38.31 | Sygram | im getting sudo: command not found |
| 09:38.49 | Sygram | and I did an apt-get install sudo |
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| 09:39.36 | Sygram | and i get "media change: please insert the disc labeledel debian.... in the drive /media/cdrom' but i was doing an usb installation |
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| 09:41.29 | teraflops | Sygram: take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list and you'll know why apt keeps asking about installation disks |
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| 09:42.44 | Sygram | k let me check |
| 09:43.52 | Sygram | yeah well |
| 09:44.07 | Sygram | the thing is i cant execute a sinngle sudo command |
| 09:44.17 | Sygram | because apparently it is not install |
| 09:44.39 | Sygram | i was trying to run sudo sed -i '/cdrom/d' /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:45.17 | teraflops | Sygram: what's your issue then? |
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| 09:45.37 | Sygram | im following this guide https://myles.sh/installing-debian-jessie-on-a-dell-xps-13-9350-via-a-custom-debian-installer-iso-with-complete-hardware-support/ |
| 09:45.57 | Sygram | im stuck in the sudo ip link set dev wlan0 up |
| 09:45.59 | Sygram | step |
| 09:46.06 | Sygram | because i cant run sudo commands |
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| 09:50.29 | teraflops | Sygram: sorry im not going to read that tutorial. you want to install packages, setup your sources.list to pick either a mirror or a cdrom do apt-get update and them install whatever you want. you dont need sudo, just su - unless you said *no* to allow root login during installation |
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| 09:51.21 | teraflops | but in this case i suppose debian installs sudo |
| 09:51.40 | teraflops | so su - would be fine I suppose |
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| 09:52.56 | teraflops | if you dont know you can do su - if you dont have sudo you have major problems there, no offense intended |
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| 10:06.44 | dob1 | hi, if /home becomes full can you login via ssh? |
| 10:07.14 | dob1 | other than quota, can i prevent it to become full? |
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| 10:22.17 | Kipiatilnik | please explain how to update kernel on cubian (that's debian for one dev board)? my corrent version is Cubian 3.4.79-sun7i i need that becouse my wifi adapter didn't work on this version of kernel |
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| 10:27.28 | babilen | dpkg: cubian |
| 10:27.28 | dpkg | Cubian is a <derivative> installation image for a specific <armhf> board; #debian doesn't know what exactly the image contains. Ask in #cubian (irc.freenode.net) about issues with the image itself, #cubieboard (irc.freenode.net) about the hardware, or #linux-sunxi (irc.freenode.net) channel for kernel and driver development. |
| 10:27.32 | babilen | Kipiatilnik: ^ |
| 10:28.27 | Kipiatilnik | ok thank's |
| 10:28.44 | latemus | hey |
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| 10:29.27 | latemus | im using jesse 8.5. i've configured a static ip viaarg |
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| 10:30.27 | latemus | static ip via interfaces file. my problem is that after adding my nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf, when i reboot, the changes do n not persist |
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| 10:30.39 | latemus | res |
| 10:30.45 | latemus | olvconf is not installed |
| 10:31.03 | latemus | why |
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| 10:32.58 | loopdo | i've had the same problem. why don't changes to /etc/resolv.conf persist accross reboot? |
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| 10:33.24 | latemus | wish i knew bro |
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| 10:36.35 | teraflops | latemus: go install it? |
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| 10:40.13 | latemus | teraflops: sorry -- i wasnt clear. i dont want to use resolvconf, i'm using /etc/network/interfaces, and the debian guide section 5.5.5 says that when using /etc/network/interfaces you have to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf (like on traditional unices), but my changes to /etc/resolv.conf dont persist across reboot, the file is being dynamically regenerated somehow. why? |
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| 10:41.01 | teraflops | do you do dhcp? |
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| 10:42.01 | latemus | nam man, i'm setting up a static ip address |
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| 10:42.14 | latemus | s/nam/nah/ |
| 10:43.04 | teraflops | mind pasting your /e/n/I file? |
| 10:43.22 | latemus | np, one sec. rebooting first |
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| 10:45.57 | donoban | jmcnaught: teraflops, I'm trying to switch libvirt to my normal user (instead running it as root) but I'm getting an error when I start a a Network with virsh net-start . are you using qemu:///system or qemu:///session? |
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| 10:47.51 | donoban | should I expect a x4 read speed from a mdraid-10? |
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| 10:48.04 | teraflops | donoban: oh I just do plain quemu or virt-manager and I do qemu:///system in virt-manager |
| 10:48.31 | donoban | hi teraflops, could you check what user is running your qemu process? |
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| 10:50.14 | latemus | teraflops: http://pastie.org/10909702 |
| 10:51.06 | teraflops | donoban: I have no debian achine at hand right nwo. If you really want me to do so give a few minutes |
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| 10:51.43 | donoban | well, don't worry if it's too much problem :) |
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| 10:52.54 | teraflops | donoban: according to https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration youre doing it wrong |
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| 10:53.12 | latemus | teraflops: you mean me? |
| 10:53.16 | teraflops | yes |
| 10:53.29 | latemus | k i'll take a look, thanks teraflops |
| 10:54.08 | teraflops | if you do have resolvconf package installed you do the dns-nameservers thing in /e/n/i, if you dont you just edit /etc/resolv.conf file unless im getting https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration wrong |
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| 10:55.40 | latemus | teraflops: ah, thanks much for that crarification |
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| 10:56.59 | teraflops | latemus: if you have resolvconf package installed and your /etc/resolv.conf still gets overwritten, then there's something else you are missing |
| 10:57.47 | teraflops | donoban: nah, wait I recall I have one debian jessie here with qemu and virt manager |
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| 10:57.59 | donoban | nice |
| 10:58.35 | latemus | okay. i think that youre caught the error, my theory is that because of the resolvconf directives in /e/n/i, resolv.conf was being generated. i'll reboot now and see, thanks teraflops |
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| 11:03.55 | latemus | hm, still regenerating resolv.conf. here's the new /etc/network/interfaces file: http://pastie.org/10909715 |
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| 11:04.56 | latemus | wierder still is that resolv.conf is generated with an ipv6 address for the nameserver field, and i have only configured 'inet' as opposed to 'inet6' in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:06.23 | latemus | but why, #debian at six am |
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| 11:08.21 | latemus | echo $(which resolvconf) returns nothing |
| 11:08.23 | teraflops | latemus: is your router doing ra or something like that? |
| 11:08.32 | latemus | teraflops: no sire. |
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| 11:10.09 | latemus | im going to ingorantly blame systemd |
| 11:10.12 | latemus | lel |
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| 11:11.43 | latemus | arg, why cant a flat text file be enough |
| 11:12.00 | latemus | wtf evil demon is ruinging my laife rn |
| 11:12.00 | teraflops | donoban: virt-manager runs as my user and qemu runs as libvirt user |
| 11:12.39 | donoban | could you su libvirt and check the groups where it is? |
| 11:12.45 | donoban | it's on KVM? |
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| 11:16.16 | teraflops | donoban: stock debian jessie here, /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf all commented out (no user or group manually set), my user is uid=1000(teraflops) gid=1000(teraflops) groups=1000(teraflops),122(libvirt),124(libvirt-qemu) |
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| 11:17.24 | teraflops | donoban: you cannot su libvirt-qemu, its's a group |
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| 11:17.28 | teraflops | it's* |
| 11:18.10 | teraflops | I also cannot su libvirt |
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| 11:18.35 | donoban | uhM |
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| 11:18.58 | donoban | could you 'grep kvm /etc/groups' ? |
| 11:19.12 | donoban | group |
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| 11:19.29 | teraflops | donoban: also https://ptpb.pw/lqiv.png |
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| 11:20.57 | donoban | there is nobody on kvm group? |
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| 11:21.39 | teraflops | donoban: as I said stck debian jessie here /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf untouched |
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| 11:21.46 | teraflops | stock* |
| 11:21.50 | donoban | and do you have kvm enabled there? |
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| 11:25.19 | teraflops | donoban: http://ix.io/14FH ^ |
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| 11:26.25 | teraflops | donoban: how did you create your user there? |
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| 11:27.45 | donoban | uhM, my user? |
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| 11:28.07 | teraflops | yeah is your user no the same groups as mine? |
| 11:28.14 | teraflops | on* |
| 11:28.31 | teraflops | 122(libvirt),124(libvirt-qemu) |
| 11:28.35 | donoban | yes |
| 11:28.37 | donoban | ahm |
| 11:28.48 | donoban | yes |
| 11:28.52 | donoban | and kvm also |
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| 11:28.59 | teraflops | and you restore /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf to it's stock state? |
| 11:29.28 | donoban | yes, all commented |
| 11:29.31 | teraflops | and then restarted libvirtd? |
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| 11:30.17 | donoban | yes |
| 11:30.22 | teraflops | if yes to all try droping the user frm kvm group and start virt-manager and create a new connectio jto the hypervisor |
| 11:30.43 | donoban | I'm now also with error: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied |
| 11:30.51 | teraflops | sorry^i meant connection to the hypervisor |
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| 11:32.23 | donoban | teraflops: could you check the file permissions on /var/lib/libvirt? |
| 11:32.33 | donoban | I have one folder with libvirt-qemu, and the other root:root |
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| 11:34.16 | teraflops | wait installing curl :S |
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| 11:35.20 | teraflops | donoban: http://ix.io/14FU |
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| 11:36.36 | teraflops | also https://ptpb.pw/AmAz.png |
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| 11:38.25 | donoban | i can't load first url |
| 11:38.42 | donoban | lol, eres español xd |
| 11:38.49 | teraflops | the ix one? loads fine here |
| 11:39.08 | donoban | maybe tor.. |
| 11:39.09 | teraflops | donoban: yeah ^ |
| 11:39.23 | donoban | ok, uhM |
| 11:40.10 | donoban | could you check user/groups inside images dir? I guess them should be libvirt-qemu but since I've restored them from a backup I have root instead |
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| 11:42.16 | teraflops | donoban: sorry I dont get what you say |
| 11:43.02 | teraflops | you mean the qcow/raw images? |
| 11:43.03 | donoban | on /var/lib/libvirt/images (which has root:root) should are iso's, qcow files, etc... what permissions have? |
| 11:43.05 | donoban | yes |
| 11:43.07 | teraflops | ok |
| 11:43.52 | teraflops | donoban: http://sprunge.us/NEQf |
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| 11:44.51 | donoban | so it's root:root and 644 and qemu process runs as libvirt-qemu .... |
| 11:45.06 | donoban | strange? |
| 11:45.15 | teraflops | donoban: did you just try to drop the user from kvm group and just restart the machine aka doing an itcrowd? |
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| 11:45.40 | teraflops | no it's not if you see the gettent outputs i pasted above |
| 11:45.58 | donoban | I can't restart the machine from here |
| 11:48.13 | teraflops | donoban: you cannot retart the machine from there? what about reboot? |
| 11:48.20 | donoban | LUKS |
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| 11:49.09 | teraflops | well, what will you do when new kernel or reboot is required by an update? |
| 11:49.46 | teraflops | also threre are methods for dealing with luks remotely, just saying |
| 11:49.50 | donoban | I will go to his pyhsical place and enter the luks passphrase manually |
| 11:50.01 | donoban | yes I could think on that, I've installed debian yesterday |
| 11:50.19 | donoban | I had alpinelinux wich boots and started ssh before unlock the crypto partition |
| 11:50.27 | donoban | but I had unstable qemu/kvm |
| 11:50.47 | donoban | segfaults and some total crash, I decided go to most stable way and choose debian ^^ |
| 11:51.19 | donoban | alpinelinux guys seems more focused on containers than virtualization, and qemu / muslc bugs should be hard to fix |
| 11:51.35 | teraflops | donoban: no idea then, I guess messing with /dev, permissions and so on in a fresh install doesnt look like a good idea |
| 11:51.58 | donoban | interesrintg, i did chmod 777 /dev/kvm but it doesn't fix anything |
| 11:52.11 | teraflops | also how do you restart libvirtd? |
| 11:52.24 | donoban | /etc/initd.d/libvirtd restart |
| 11:52.47 | teraflops | donoban: there is a systemd service and a virtlockd.socket too |
| 11:53.19 | teraflops | donoban: sorry but im afraid I cannot help you more than I did |
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| 11:53.20 | donoban | if I change user to root on /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf and restart libvirt, all works fine :\ |
| 11:53.34 | donoban | hehe don't worry and thx :) |
| 11:53.35 | teraflops | because /dev I suppose |
| 11:53.44 | teraflops | that's why I asked you to reboot |
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| 11:54.05 | donoban | I could swtich to root and try to fix it again when I could reboot the machine |
| 11:54.33 | donoban | and least I know you are using qemu:///system so I can discard qemu:///session way |
| 11:54.42 | teraflops | letting /dev/kvm get proper permissions after the reboot was my guess |
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| 11:55.12 | teraflops | since it does not allow any group there |
| 11:55.47 | donoban | how looks your /dev/kvm? 660 ? |
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| 11:57.06 | teraflops | oh I switched the machine off |
| 11:57.20 | donoban | ok don't worry, I have to leave |
| 11:57.26 | donoban | see you and ty for your time and effort ;) |
| 11:57.33 | teraflops | nah, good luck |
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| 12:07.09 | JohK | hi |
| 12:08.05 | JohK | the desktop/menu search in my kde desktop environment is not working, manually installed baloo and had the indexer run, still not working |
| 12:08.11 | JohK | any hints? |
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| 12:08.49 | aBadThing | What the hell is this https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment |
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| 12:10.45 | Spiffy | aBadThing, I believe it says so, right on the page. |
| 12:11.01 | aBadThing | Is this a joke? |
| 12:11.11 | aBadThing | Are we supposed to chuckle? |
| 12:11.23 | aBadThing | Why? Just why..? |
| 12:11.47 | aBadThing | I like debian |
| 12:11.54 | aBadThing | but now it is maggot infested |
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| 12:24.20 | cousin_luigi | aBadThing: Maggt infested? |
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| 12:24.30 | aBadThing | Yes |
| 12:24.36 | Coweater | don't engage the trolls |
| 12:24.48 | aBadThing | >trolls |
| 12:25.01 | aBadThing | elaborate please |
| 12:25.10 | cousin_luigi | Likewise. |
| 12:25.22 | cousin_luigi | What are these maggots you talk about? |
| 12:25.32 | teraflops | aBadThing: I kindly suggest you to continue your whining in #debian-offtopic |
| 12:26.28 | aBadThing | i wont engage further, but sjws will kill you inside out just like they did with other companies |
| 12:26.31 | aBadThing | good day |
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| 12:27.30 | cousin_luigi | sjws, companies??? |
| 12:27.37 | cousin_luigi | Are we even talking about distros? |
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| 12:28.08 | AimHere | I thought Debian was fairly SJW-ish from the outset |
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| 12:30.56 | google77 | hi |
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| 12:32.18 | google77 | does burning blu rays generally work on debian? |
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| 12:32.40 | google77 | I mean I heard the story about cdrkit vs cdrtools |
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| 12:35.04 | ByteStorm | cousin_luigi: whats sjws? |
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| 12:38.19 | AimHere | ByteStorm, 'Social Justice Warriors'. These days, it's a derogatory term used by various mostly right-wing types to describe people who advocate feminism, racial equality, etc. |
| 12:38.44 | ByteStorm | okkk....rather mean |
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| 12:42.55 | cousin_luigi | Actually I had come here to ask about haveged. |
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| 12:43.47 | eclipse | who can i pay to fix my locale errors |
| 12:43.53 | ByteStorm | no one |
| 12:43.59 | ByteStorm | ask us :D |
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| 12:44.31 | eclipse | well, according to python I have a "unsupported locale setting" |
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| 12:45.00 | ByteStorm | is some lib missing eclipse? |
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| 12:45.12 | eclipse | i really don't know |
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| 12:45.34 | eclipse | I've tried everything I can |
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| 12:46.49 | ByteStorm | eclipse try /join #python |
| 12:46.58 | eclipse | the issue is not python |
| 12:47.03 | ByteStorm | well |
| 12:47.07 | eclipse | I get locale errors everywhere |
| 12:47.08 | ByteStorm | then? |
| 12:47.14 | TomTomTosch | eclipse: what locale do you have configured and when das the error occure? |
| 12:47.30 | ByteStorm | code you paste it somewhere,like paste.debian.net |
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| 12:47.41 | eclipse | TomTomTosch, en_us utf-8 |
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| 12:48.33 | eclipse | and I get errors like https://paste.debian.net/782305/ |
| 12:48.53 | sondiag | FLAG THIS VIDEO: |
| 12:48.57 | RebelCoderW | Guys, please suggest THE EASIEST way to view other linux desktop ? Not new X session but existing desktop ? |
| 12:49.02 | sondiag | https://vimeo.com/130010762 |
| 12:50.49 | TomTomTosch | eclipse: dpkg-reconfigure locales was the first thing you did? |
| 12:50.50 | google77 | VNC |
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| 12:51.29 | eclipse | https://paste.debian.net/782306/ TomTomTosch |
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| 12:53.41 | TomTomTosch | eclipse: dpkg -l locales shows locales as installed? |
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| 12:54.16 | eclipse | TomTomTosch, https://paste.debian.net/782307/ |
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| 12:58.55 | TomTomTosch | eclipse: okay. then edit /etc/locale.gen remove the hash from the locale that you want, then run locale-gen |
| 12:59.17 | zeronineseven | Hi guys! Could somebody please explain how can I build custom gcc with debian-specific patches applied? I've unpacked gcc-4.9-source deb package and it looks like there are quite a few of them. Should I just apply all the *.diff files to the upstream source or there's more? Thx in advance! |
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| 13:00.39 | zeronineseven | BTW I've already successfully compiled upstream gcc 4.9 and it looks like everything is working fine. Do I even need those debian patches? |
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| 13:02.03 | TomTomTosch | eclipse: if that doesn't work try apt-get install --reinstall locales |
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| 13:06.26 | anku | Hi |
| 13:06.28 | anku | booting it, menu bar and task bar vanishes, and I can't use keyboard on close the open window |
| 13:06.29 | anku | [18:27] <ank> Does anyone know what might be the problem |
| 13:06.29 | anku | [18:27] <ank> ? |
| 13:06.53 | anku | Any one heard something related? |
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| 13:10.22 | zeronineseven | anku: what desktop environment(or window manager) are u using? |
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| 13:10.51 | anku | Debian 8 |
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| 13:13.05 | google77 | anku gnome, kde, lxde or xce? |
| 13:13.22 | anku | Kde |
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| 13:14.13 | google77 | can you reboot into safe mode? |
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| 13:14.36 | anku | I don't know how to |
| 13:14.45 | teraflops | are you in jessie |
| 13:15.08 | anku | ?? |
| 13:15.28 | anku | I am not using my pc right now |
| 13:15.30 | google77 | teraflops yes he said debian 8 |
| 13:16.34 | teraflops | ah sorry |
| 13:17.07 | zeronineseven | anku: when do menu bar and task bar disapper? Immediately after login? |
| 13:17.23 | google77 | these steps are for Ubuntu, but it should work on debian too. |
| 13:17.26 | google77 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode |
| 13:17.33 | anku | After 10 or 15 mnts |
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| 13:17.47 | google77 | anku does it do so every time? |
| 13:18.39 | zeronineseven | and what kde major version do you have? |
| 13:19.22 | google77 | should we tell him to install another DE? |
| 13:19.36 | google77 | it would probably fix his problem |
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| 13:21.00 | google77 | zeronineseven he probably has the one that is in stable ATM. |
| 13:21.01 | anku | K I'll try another DE |
| 13:22.59 | google77 | anku you know how to install another DE? |
| 13:23.23 | anku | Online tutorials |
| 13:23.28 | anku | :) |
| 13:23.33 | google77 | yeah |
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| 13:34.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | Hi, there's a bug in the nvidia-kernel-dkms package that causes dkms to fail on the linux 4.6kernel from jessie-backports. I have a bugfix for it, where's the right place to hand it in? |
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| 13:34.34 | hacker13 | hello |
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| 13:35.12 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: BTS |
| 13:35.20 | hacker13 | hello |
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| 13:35.33 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: You could also CC the maintainer of that backport |
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| 13:36.07 | hacker13 | i am cosmos camper |
| 13:36.47 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index6h2 |
| 13:37.24 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: Are you referring to nvidia-kernel-dkms from backports or from jessie? |
| 13:37.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: from jessie, there is non in backports |
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| 13:38.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | atleast my aptitude says so |
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| 13:38.48 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: 340.96 is the version of the nvidia package |
| 13:39.22 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: And your patch allows it to build both against the kernel in jessie and the one from backports? |
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| 13:39.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: all kernels |
| 13:39.53 | KaffeeJunky123 | right now I'm on 4.6-rt |
| 13:40.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | and it works for now, but I'd like other people to test it too |
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| 13:41.16 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: Okay, I'd report it against nvidia-kernel-dkms then. Run "reportbug --configure" (you want to use the Debian SMTP server, so say that you don't have one) and "reportbug nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 13:42.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: well, nvidia-kernel-dkms is part of the larger nvidia-driver package, which is what I used as a starting point |
| 13:42.21 | babilen | https://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 13:42.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: ty |
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| 13:47.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | one of these facepalm moments... |
| 13:48.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | there's a new nvidia driver in jessie-backports, I just didn't have non-free enabled |
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| 13:50.03 | babilen | KaffeeJunky123: That's why I asked if the patch is also needed for the nvidia package in backports |
| 13:51.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | babilen: which is why I noticed :-) |
| 13:51.15 | KaffeeJunky123 | so thanks again |
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| 13:54.40 | iamawesome | Is it possible to run a c executable double clicking it on linux? |
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| 13:58.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | iamawesome: Your question doesn't make any sense |
| 13:58.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | It doesn't matter what kind of executable you have |
| 13:58.46 | iamawesome | gcc test.c -o test, test is the executable , i want to run test double clicking it. |
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| 13:58.52 | rapha | Hi! |
| 13:59.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | iamawesome: you sure can, the default in most desktops is a single click thou |
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| 14:00.35 | iamawesome | If i double click it, nothing happens. |
| 14:00.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | well |
| 14:00.41 | iamawesome | It doesn't show any output. |
| 14:00.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | let me guess |
| 14:00.47 | KaffeeJunky123 | it's a terminal application |
| 14:00.57 | rapha | What's wrong with these preseed/late_command statements here? They cause the installer to hang just before rebooting :( https://gist.github.com/sixtyfive/862d908d7227c9b35e1a6019628c7ef1 |
| 14:01.26 | iamawesome | I also think that it's a terminal application. |
| 14:01.44 | iamawesome | It has only one line: printf("Hello world.\n"); |
| 14:01.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | yeah |
| 14:02.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | the application does just that when you double click it |
| 14:02.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | but you won't see it |
| 14:02.41 | KaffeeJunky123 | since the application is not attached to an open terminal window |
| 14:03.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | on a really slow pc you'd see the terminal open |
| 14:03.37 | iamawesome | How can i make it attached with a terminal? |
| 14:03.46 | KaffeeJunky123 | you run it from a terminal |
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| 14:03.57 | iamawesome | How can i run it double clicking it? |
| 14:04.04 | iamawesome | Double click and run it on terminal. |
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| 14:07.44 | KaffeeJunky123 | iamawesome: isn't it much simpler to run it from a terminal? |
| 14:08.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | I mean, why would you run a terminal application from the gui |
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| 14:08.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | iamawesome: if you want an easy way to run an application you just compiled, you should use an IDE |
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| 14:25.52 | otyugh | hey. I'm looking for an active IRC channel where you can ask random questions about IT |
| 14:26.23 | iamawesome | otyugh: What type of question? |
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| 14:30.00 | otyugh | (mine would be about how much you can ask selling bunch selling old 800*600 or 1200* VGA only stuff. I don't want having 30 of them taking all of space, but I really am clueless about value) |
| 14:31.14 | otyugh | Guess they are representents of the just after the "after catodic" era that compnies do trash by the thousant now and then. |
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| 15:20.11 | hanasaki | http://www.cacert.org/ is it any good? yesterday someone here recommended (https://startssl.com/ |
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| 15:21.04 | themill | hanasaki: given most browsers don't trust cacert certificates, no. All the cool kids are using letsencrypt these days |
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| 15:25.39 | hanasaki | themill: thanks . I will take a look |
| 15:26.01 | hanasaki | themill: my server is totally internall. no access to the net.. will that be an issue? |
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| 15:28.56 | hanasaki | hmm nice :( certbot wants to run as root |
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| 15:32.09 | teraflops | what's wrong with it? |
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| 15:33.39 | bezaban | the clients way want connectivity for ocsp/crl checks of certificate. However you will also need to expose the web server name externally for the domain validation to succeed |
| 15:34.45 | teraflops | hanasaki: also it depends on what you do, https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/1741 |
| 15:34.47 | bezaban | or. not really when I think about it, unsure about LE, you can do the domain validation on the main domain |
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| 15:35.11 | bezaban | but it needs to be a valid domain on the internet, not a pure internal one |
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| 15:37.50 | teraflops | with letsencrypt-auto you need the dns set up correctly, the webserver stopped and ports mapped to the machine that is actually requesting the certificates so it can be reachable via dns from outside |
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| 16:33.03 | AngeFede | hi all |
| 16:33.44 | AngeFede | is there someone who previously suceeded in inserting authentification code inside a ppd file for a Sharp MFP ? |
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| 16:44.24 | chachasmooth | is it recommended to use tls in addition to signed packages for debian repos? |
| 16:45.17 | chachasmooth | the only real benefit I get is a bit more privacy, as no one can see which packages I'm installing, right? |
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| 16:48.43 | CtrlC | it seems I need a nameserver. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:01.56 | CtrlC | Any idea? |
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| 17:11.26 | Arrowmaster | i lost all sound, i think it happened after pulse got updated to 9.0-1.1 |
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| 17:14.07 | babilen | Arrowmaster: So, downgrade it and try again? |
| 17:14.12 | babilen | Also: |
| 17:14.16 | teraflops | Arrowmaster: this channel is for debian jessie |
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| 17:14.26 | babilen | â #debian-next on irc.oftc.net might be more to your liking |
| 17:16.00 | teraflops | CtrlC: about what? or am I missing context? |
| 17:16.24 | CtrlC | teraflops: Any suggestion on a nameserver? |
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| 17:16.41 | teraflops | nameserver? as in setting up a dns server? |
| 17:16.58 | CtrlC | teraflops: for /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:17.01 | teraflops | ah |
| 17:17.27 | teraflops | well my suggestion is to use dns cache and dnssec validation ^ |
| 17:17.41 | CtrlC | I meant a server. |
| 17:17.57 | CtrlC | I'm configing the new server I got. |
| 17:18.10 | babilen | heh .. I almost started to suggest powerdns, nsd, ... |
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| 17:18.31 | teraflops | CtrlC: then I suggest you using your server/vps provider ones |
| 17:19.11 | CtrlC | I ticketed them. Not available yet. :D Thought maybe I can do some of my stuff till they arrive. |
| 17:19.23 | teraflops | 8.8.8.8 works :S |
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| 17:19.33 | CtrlC | ok thanks. let me try it. |
| 17:20.44 | babilen | CtrlC: Google's 8.8.8.8 and Level 3's 4.2.2.4 are common choices |
| 17:21.01 | babilen | http://www.tech-faq.com/public-dns-servers.html has a larger list |
| 17:21.23 | CtrlC | Thanks gusy. |
| 17:21.27 | CtrlC | guys* |
| 17:22.19 | teraflops | CtrlC: if you do ipv6 you may not need one, but if you dont resolve ipv6 addresses 2001:4860:4860::8888 is fine |
| 17:22.22 | teraflops | np |
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| 17:35.43 | pflanze | Why does this file when fed to xmodmap not modify that key with altgr to issue backslash?: keycode 133 = less greater backslash backslash |
| 17:36.23 | pflanze | < and > work, but together with AltGr it still gives < > |
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| 17:53.01 | pflanze | I need a tutorial for xmodmap, or how key mapping works in X. |
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| 17:58.01 | vic | is anyone available to give me a hint about how to verify the netinst iso? |
| 17:58.03 | vic | i see the md5sums.txt but can't find the signature file for that either |
| 17:58.06 | vic | descending into a mirror to find these didn't help and i'm lost on an ordinary simple process |
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| 17:58.47 | pflanze | There's usually a signed file with hashes in the same directory. |
| 17:58.57 | pflanze | vic, what was the url you got the netinst from? |
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| 17:59.14 | vic | pflanze: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 17:59.35 | pflanze | I mean the url to the actual image file. |
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| 18:00.00 | vic | the link on that page goes straight to: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 18:00.23 | pflanze | look at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 18:00.37 | vic | pflanze: Oh! I see that now! |
| 18:00.37 | pflanze | (the parent dir of that url you used) |
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| 18:00.54 | vic | Ok, thanks. I think that's got me off in the right direction !!! |
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| 18:03.01 | LunaLovegood | How do I fake-remove a package? (I want dpkg/apt to (afterwards) think the package isn't installed, but I don't want it to actually remove any files or run deconfigure scripts). |
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| 18:04.59 | pflanze | LunaLovegood, you could unpack the .deb file for that package and run its install script after removing it yourself |
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| 18:05.16 | pflanze | Don't know of any other way. It sure sounds like an odd request. |
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| 18:06.00 | pflanze | I guess you could manually edit the package database instead, but you'll have that out yourself :) |
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| 18:10.37 | vic | pflanze: thanks again, that got me working -- the instructions on the verify page are clear in hindsight |
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| 18:10.49 | vic | I think I got lost digging into the mirror trying to find the netinst.iso |
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| 18:12.10 | vic | now that I know it won't be a problem in the future, but a direct link to the sha/md5sums file and signature would have helped |
| 18:12.33 | vic | Ah, I see you'd have to do that for each architecture though :^/ |
| 18:12.43 | LunaLovegood | Ok, editing /var/lib/dpkg/status by hand worked. Thanks. |
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| 18:24.51 | SirShmoopy | Hello, I'm afraid I'm being very dense. I recently installed debian 8.5 as a home server, and cannot for the life of me get send-only email to work fully. |
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| 18:25.28 | SirShmoopy | I've bounced back and forth between exim4, postfix, and ssmtp, but the best I can seem to get is cron and mail -s to send, but nothing pointing to localhost will work. |
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| 18:27.57 | bumbar | i've created a user and ssh keyfile on server A, copied keyfile A to server B and i can't login from server A to B with keyfile. any ideas? https://dpaste.de/Ake1 |
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| 18:28.24 | bumbar | i can't login from server B to A is what i meant |
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| 18:33.27 | pflanze | SirShmoopy, your local addresses will just be the username, no @localhost |
| 18:34.03 | pflanze | Also, that's receive after all, not sure what you mean with send-only. |
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| 18:35.20 | SirShmoopy | pflanze, I'm just trying to set up mail to send in the case of reports, not to be able to receive mail as well |
| 18:35.51 | pflanze | But if you send to local, you still receive them there. |
| 18:36.04 | pflanze | I mean the question this leaves open is, where do you send them to? |
| 18:36.33 | pflanze | Happy with using POP3/IMAP/local mail reader? Then fine. |
| 18:37.12 | pflanze | I think what you want to say, "I'm just trying to enable mail from system tools to go somewhere." |
| 18:37.23 | SirShmoopy | specifically, cron worked, but after installing ossec, I would get error saying that it failed to |
| 18:37.33 | SirShmoopy | shit. I can't think with three people talking at me IRL |
| 18:37.41 | SirShmoopy | I'm trying to send to a gmail |
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| 18:38.40 | pflanze | Sending to gmail is a different beast, two approaches: (a) set up outgoing email properly, lots of work, (b) use gmail itself as a smart host (authenticated smtpd) |
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| 18:38.58 | pflanze | I've done the first but not the second so don't know how to do the second. |
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| 18:39.48 | pflanze | (a) is lots of work because gmail will stubbornly put your mail to the spam folder otherwise. |
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| 18:41.51 | SirShmoopy | It WAS working for ssmtp, except ossec would fail. I've switched between ssmtp, postfix and exim4, and I think now it's not doing anything. |
| 18:41.54 | ppkk | bumbar: maybe review this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/394305/public-key-authentication-failed |
| 18:42.56 | pflanze | SirShmoopy, what email address did you configure ossec to send to? |
| 18:43.00 | SirShmoopy | My main issue is most everything I've come across online has given instructions to a point, but then it says to test it, and assumes everything is okay. The hits I've gotten for trying to fix the problem I'm having all end in "I figured it out" |
| 18:44.03 | SirShmoopy | pflanze, all sorts. I had the actual gmail, I've had root@localhost after setting up root in aliases |
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| 18:44.24 | pflanze | As I said, "root@localhost" probably wouldn't work, "root" would |
| 18:44.34 | SirShmoopy | currently in ossec is configured as <smtp_server>localhost</smtp_server> |
| 18:44.49 | ppkk | bumbar: also, check your permissions. http://superuser.com/questions/698352/how-to-debug-public-key-ssh-authentication-failure |
| 18:45.12 | pflanze | SirShmoopy, that's probably why. As soon as you've got @something then the mail server needs to be told to be responsible for something, which may not be the case for localhost. |
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| 18:45.41 | pflanze | Otherwise the mail server will refuse to accept the mail. "I don't know about localhost". |
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| 18:47.04 | pflanze | SirShmoopy, because this is about mail domains, not IP addresses. It doesn't matter that the mail server actually listens on localhost (which it actually might not; mail is injected through the "sendmail" program, not by opening a TCP connection) |
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| 18:48.20 | pflanze | (well seems that ossec insists on delivering to an smtp_server, instead of relying on the sendmail program. Whatever. Stupid program.) |
| 18:48.23 | SirShmoopy | hmmm. I just set <email_to>root</email_to> with <smtp_server>localhost</smtp_server>, and restarting now throws an error saying root is an invalid email address |
| 18:48.40 | pflanze | yes, stupid ossec then |
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| 18:48.56 | pflanze | so it requires you to configure your mail server properly. |
| 18:49.28 | pflanze | But try google's smtp instead, if you want to deliver to a gmail address anyway? |
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| 18:49.48 | pflanze | since ossec insists on using SMTP, why would you even want it to go through your own smtp server. |
| 18:50.39 | SirShmoopy | because i'm not terribly familiar with this kind of thing to start with, and it looked to be that that is required |
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| 18:50.56 | pflanze | Yes, of course. |
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| 18:51.27 | ppkk | Sirhmoopy: Exim4 setup for outgoing email is pretty easy --> https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 |
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| 18:52.45 | pflanze | SirShmoopy, I suggest you simply try say: alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com |
| 18:53.02 | pflanze | which is one of the addresses that gmail.com returns for the MX DNS lookup. |
| 18:53.22 | pflanze | Then you don't need any local mail server at all for ossec. |
| 18:53.41 | pflanze | But of course the same what I said applies: gmail loves to put your mails to the spam folder. |
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| 18:55.22 | ppkk | Only catch is to remember to set Gmail to allow less secure apps: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en But, that's not to say Exim4 is less secure. |
| 18:56.27 | pflanze | well, your random web server is never going to be very secure |
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| 18:56.55 | pflanze | So, ppkk 's suggestion is to use the smarthost approach as I said. |
| 18:57.07 | pflanze | I'm zoning out now. Better things to do... |
| 18:57.27 | ppkk | :) |
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| 18:58.59 | pflanze | I mean I'm happy to provide understanding but it's too frustrating if there's not enough patience around to walk on that level. |
| 18:59.34 | pflanze | Working out understanding is work. |
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| 19:00.52 | pflanze | (And I came here in the hopes for anyone to provide some understanding on X key maps. No luck so far.) |
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| 19:06.37 | ppkk | Pflanze: I haven't really worked with X Keyboard Maps...? What do you want to do? |
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| 19:07.40 | pflanze | I'm relying on a particular key, which on my swiss german keymap is here: xmodmap -pke |grep backslash -> keycode 94 = less greater less greater backslash brokenbar backslash brokenbar less greater backslash brokenbar less greater backslash brokenbar |
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| 19:08.16 | pflanze | Now I'm attaching a keyboard that doesn't have this key 94. I'd like to use the left windows key instead, which xev says has key code 133. |
| 19:08.35 | pflanze | So I feed "keycode 133 = less greater less greater backslash brokenbar backslash brokenbar" to xmodmap. |
| 19:09.07 | pflanze | Now < and with shift > work on that key, but AltGr which should give me the backslash will just give < |
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| 19:09.26 | pflanze | I don't understand how this can happen. |
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| 19:11.41 | nkuttler | pflanze: backslash works for me, with either config |
| 19:12.08 | pflanze | nkuttler, when presing which key? |
| 19:12.21 | nkuttler | well i mapped it to 48 |
| 19:12.31 | nkuttler | not sure where 133 would be |
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| 19:12.38 | pflanze | left wndows key |
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| 19:13.25 | nkuttler | pflanze: you might have to use clear ModX, whichever is Super_L i guess |
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| 19:13.44 | ppkk | Okay, I see. I haven't worked on the problem before. But, I found an interesting URL you might find helpful. |
| 19:14.06 | ppkk | However, you probably found it. LOL. |
| 19:14.20 | nkuttler | pflanze: but i'm really just guessing there. i had to use a few clear and remove stuff to get my keymap working |
| 19:14.31 | pflanze | nkuttler, indeed it works for me too on key 48 |
| 19:14.43 | nkuttler | i think the meta/super keys are somewhat special |
| 19:15.03 | pflanze | yeah I guess so. I've noticed the clear stuff but the man page talks about Control, Mod1, Mod2, Mod3, Mod4, Mod5 |
| 19:15.28 | pflanze | whereas xev talks about Control_L Alt_L ISO_Level3_Shift Super_R Menu Control_R |
| 19:15.39 | nkuttler | yeah, it's messy |
| 19:15.42 | pflanze | so I've got no clue which is what, even how they are related. |
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| 19:16.45 | ppkk | Pflanze,: maybe you're using the wrong key code or keysym? |
| 19:17.21 | ppkk | I have a simple C prog that might help verify this. |
| 19:17.31 | pflanze | As I said < and > do work on that key now so it seems the key code is right |
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| 19:18.02 | ppkk | Then what doesn't work? |
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| 19:18.16 | pflanze | AltGr, i.e. the combo that should issue backslash |
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| 19:18.47 | pflanze | I do get backslash when doing the same on key 48. I do not on key 133. |
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| 19:22.24 | pflanze | I've cleared Mod1 Mod2 Mod3 Mod4 Mod5 and still doesn't work |
| 19:23.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | 133 being... right windows key? |
| 19:24.03 | pflanze | Situated left on my keyboard. |
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| 19:24.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | possible, the laptop here only has one (on the left) |
| 19:24.25 | pflanze | 134 is my right windows key |
| 19:24.54 | pflanze | Same problem with that one btw. |
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| 19:26.01 | pflanze | Fun, xfce's keyboard selection tool doesn't restore the cleared modifiers. Guess I'm gonna have to restart X. |
| 19:26.53 | pflanze | The weirdest part of all of this is that IIRC I *had* it working a long time ago. |
| 19:27.12 | pflanze | (like 10 years ago) |
| 19:27.28 | ppkk | Pflanze: Looks very cool for you. Hope so...seems so - http://rlog.rgtti.com/2014/05/01/how-to-modify-a-keyboard-layout-in-linux/ |
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| 19:29.44 | pflanze | Hm. Maybe |
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| 19:35.18 | pflanze | Wow. I still have the keymap saved with "xmodmap -pke", tried to load it with "xmodmap < saved", took about a minute, blocking X, and raising system load to 2.18, but didn't restore the cleared modifiers either. |
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| 19:36.48 | pflanze | This all feels like the worse part in the "worse is better" approach, of course. |
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| 19:39.44 | pflanze | Extremely odd: Alt-tab still works as a window switcher in the Xfce window manager. Also, Alt-F12 which I've configured to open xterm would not do that anymore now except suddenly several minutes later all the xterms I tried to open appear out of the blue. |
| 19:40.04 | pflanze | Time to restart X. |
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| 20:11.09 | ar | hi |
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| 20:14.49 | Evropi | q: are there any plans to redo the website? |
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| 20:20.17 | Engys | Are you aware of the problem that Debian is freezing the whole system if you open more than one XSession and afterwards close one of them? I got this problem on Jessie and Stretch with nVidia GTX 960. |
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| 20:22.13 | Engys | Archlinux does fine in the same situation. |
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| 20:35.51 | strap | any way to disable automatic dependency handling in aptitude? |
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| 20:36.42 | kyndel | Anyone run LMDE? |
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| 20:38.36 | Engys | strap you can get single packages with apt |
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| 20:39.57 | awal1 | kybdel, lmde is debian based OS, not debian |
| 20:40.16 | kyndel | awal1: i know |
| 20:40.27 | themill | strap: aptitude's only job is to deal with dependencies. What are you really trying to do? |
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| 20:40.35 | mtn | kyndel: he means you are in the wrong channel |
| 20:40.59 | kyndel | it's debian under the hood so i cna learn a lot by being here |
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| 20:41.17 | mtn | kyndel: this channel does not support anything other than debian. |
| 20:41.29 | strap | Engys: themill; playing with the system for now and wondering if the system will run without libsystemd0 |
| 20:41.38 | strap | but then apt will freak out and remove a bunch of packages |
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| 20:42.37 | awal1 | dpkg: tell kyndel about based on debian |
| 20:43.12 | kyndel | i haven't even asked a question |
| 20:43.16 | kyndel | you guys are being snobs |
| 20:43.28 | awal1 | kyndel, why run lmde if you can just run debian testing (=stretch) (or unstable=sid) |
| 20:43.41 | themill | kyndel: this isn't a social channel so anyone running LMDE isn't particularly relevant |
| 20:44.03 | kyndel | whatever *eye rolls* |
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| 20:44.27 | themill | it's about as relevant as asking if anyone runs windows. The answer is "probably but we don't care" |
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| 20:45.48 | themill | strap: anything that is linked against that library will simply fail to run even if that code would not have been executed in on your system. It's not a great path to go down. |
| 20:46.32 | Engys | kyndel Mint is not even a rolling release anymore. I was shocked yesterday as I tested LMDE. |
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| 20:47.21 | mtn | still off-topic |
| 20:47.26 | strap | themill: thanks |
| 20:48.01 | awal1 | How to kill a given WM via Console (tty) without killing the whole Xorg? |
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| 20:49.29 | teraflops | awal1: kill the wm instance |
| 20:49.58 | awal1 | teraflops, tried but doesnt work |
| 20:50.12 | strap | just killed openbox here and still up |
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| 20:50.45 | awal1 | for example killall openbox not working (user / root) |
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| 20:51.32 | teraflops | awal1: how did you start it? |
| 20:51.48 | awal1 | kill -9 doesn't work too. so usually I just killall Xorg (as root) |
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| 20:52.16 | teraflops | awal1: how did you start it?^ |
| 20:52.17 | strap | iirc, if you started with startx it will do that though |
| 20:52.17 | awal1 | teraflops, so via a DM (sddm, lightdm or wdm) or via xinitrc |
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| 20:52.58 | teraflops | awal1: I never used openbox, just exec openbox in xinitrc? |
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| 20:53.13 | awal1 | strap, you mean killall openbox via tty works for you? |
| 20:53.37 | strap | not via tty, i used a terminal emulator if that is relevant |
| 20:54.11 | awal1 | teraflops, no , with exec /usr/bin/openbox-session |
| 20:54.21 | teraflops | awal1: you want a logout thingy for openbox? |
| 20:54.36 | awal1 | hmmm, Im may have to killall openbox-session or /usr/bin/openbox-session |
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| 20:55.29 | awal1 | teraflops, openbox is just an example, I cant kill any WM via tty if not killing Xorg as root |
| 20:56.11 | awal1 | openbox have exit function yes, but it's just an example |
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| 20:59.05 | strap | you could try to do that with a window open |
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| 21:00.12 | teraflops | awal1: if the wm is borked and you do startx whats wrong with killing xorg since youll have to startx again anyway? |
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| 21:01.12 | teraflops | or systemctl restart myDM.service |
| 21:01.29 | awal1 | I have installed all WM available in debian in my sid VM and playing with them for learn stuff but some off them are broken :P |
| 21:01.59 | teraflops | and how it helps killing the WM but not xorg? |
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| 21:03.26 | awal1 | teraflops, you are right. thinking about what you say; you are logical yes. so never mind :P |
| 21:04.24 | teraflops | awal1: I was wondering too, not meant to do some socratic method shit ;) |
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| 21:06.23 | awal1 | teraflops, I know that killing X window manager Xorg recieves a sigterm anyway, same if exiting the WM normally, but my question is bcoz I was wondering if it's not "good" for xorg |
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| 21:09.43 | CtrlC | Now the static files don't get served using apache. I pasted the lines in the doc. changing the pathes. I get 404 at /static |
| 21:09.46 | teraflops | awal1: ah I dont know, but I think xorg won't get borked because you kill -9 it |
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| 21:09.55 | CtrlC | ah sorry wrong channel. |
| 21:10.28 | CtrlC | But still related though. I'm trying to deploy django on apache. |
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| 21:12.15 | CtrlC | Here's the apache config lines I added(21 lines) http://paste.debian.net/hidden/da717e1a/ |
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| 21:24.23 | rgr | best pdf reader for debian these days? And please dont say xpdf. |
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| 21:28.13 | Coweater | atril |
| 21:28.45 | teraflops | best sounds a bit subjective , zathura, mupdf, evince are fine for me |
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| 21:33.00 | awal1 | rgr, kde uses okular |
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| 22:07.33 | unborn | document viewer 3.14.1 here eh.. it does pdfs well.. at least for me |
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| 22:24.25 | N0Lif3 | which installation disc for Debian would I choose for an old laptop that has this cpu? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103377 |
| 22:26.08 | themill | N0Lif3: i386 by the looks of it |
| 22:26.14 | missmbob | N0Lif3: do you want gnome or xfce or netinst and pick during install? |
| 22:26.52 | N0Lif3 | probably going to put xfce on it, since it's an old lappy with only 512mb of DDR ram |
| 22:27.09 | missmbob | N0Lif3: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso |
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| 22:28.00 | N0Lif3 | thanks |
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| 22:29.45 | dvs | N0Lif3, it matters more if you are going to install via WiFi |
| 22:32.00 | N0Lif3 | wifi if it works out of the box, ethernet if not |
| 22:32.56 | missmbob | for a computer that old i'd do normal install (what i linked you to) |
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| 22:33.13 | N0Lif3 | downloading the iso now |
| 22:33.22 | N0Lif3 | well, halfway done now |
| 22:33.46 | missmbob | N0Lif3: how are you coping it to media? following the guide and just using cp? |
| 22:34.32 | N0Lif3 | I thank you for your assistance, but I know what I'm doing. I was just unsure of which installation I should get for that old AMD processor |
| 22:35.42 | missmbob | yeah. 32-bit vs 64-it is difficult vs firmware and such |
| 22:36.00 | dvs | or multi-arch |
| 22:36.51 | missmbob | i'm betting unetbootin |
| 22:37.00 | dvs | !unetbootin |
| 22:37.00 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 22:37.21 | N0Lif3 | the laptop is too old to boot from USB. |
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| 22:37.28 | N0Lif3 | im burning a CD the whole fashioned way |
| 22:37.33 | N0Lif3 | old* |
| 22:37.35 | dvs | O_O |
| 22:37.37 | N0Lif3 | asdfjkl; |
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| 22:40.46 | n0kt | I wanted to install in my lappy the propietary drivers for ATI M HD4000 but I see there's no support for Jessie... |
| 22:40.51 | n0kt | Should I re-install Wheezy or look for another oldstable-based distro? (don't have any clue, actually) |
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| 22:42.05 | dvs | ,v linux-firmware-nonfree |
| 22:42.12 | judd | No package named 'linux-firmware-nonfree' was found in amd64. |
| 22:42.35 | dvs | ,v firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 22:42.36 | judd | Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20160110-1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20160110-1; sid/non-free: 20160110-1 |
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| 22:52.23 | finalform | /help |
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| 22:56.28 | Sygram | Hi everyone |
| 22:56.50 | Sygram | I'm new to this linux world, and I just installed debian jessie from netinst to my laptop |
| 22:57.37 | Sygram | but I can't run a single command on it |
| 22:57.50 | Sygram | all of them say cannot execute binary file |
| 22:58.20 | Sygram | i.e. i did a "su root apt-get install sudo" |
| 22:59.00 | Sygram | and I get "/usr/bin/apt-get: /usr/bin/apt-get: cannot execute binary file" |
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| 22:59.24 | Sygram | I'm pretty I selected the right architecture |
| 22:59.39 | dvs | Sygram, su root -c apt-get install sudo |
| 23:00.11 | Sygram | i got a lot of info |
| 23:00.18 | Sygram | but i dont think the command executed |
| 23:00.26 | Sygram | a lot of info about apt-get |
| 23:00.44 | dvs | Sygram, su root -c "apt-get install sudo" |
| 23:02.10 | Sygram | dvs, yeah that worked |
| 23:02.19 | Sygram | thanks |
| 23:02.28 | dvs | np |
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| 23:04.18 | Sygram | another thing, since using that type of command |
| 23:04.24 | Sygram | requires " " |
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| 23:04.40 | Sygram | what if i need to run a command that uses " inside of it |
| 23:04.42 | Sygram | like this |
| 23:04.47 | Sygram | wpa_passphrase "$SSID_NAME" > /home/$USER_NAME/ssid_psk.key |
| 23:05.05 | dvs | Sygram, set up sudo so you won't |
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| 23:05.12 | Sygram | the thing is |
| 23:05.22 | Sygram | i have to set up my internet first |
| 23:05.26 | Sygram | right? |
| 23:05.48 | Sygram | because i ran the apt-get install sudo |
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| 23:05.58 | Sygram | and it said E: unable to locate package sudo |
| 23:06.07 | Sygram | I guess I need my internet conection working |
| 23:06.08 | Sygram | first |
| 23:06.08 | unborn | cannot he just use su to do the job what it needs and then just logout with exit from it? |
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| 23:06.21 | dvs | unborn, that's too easy! |
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| 23:06.53 | unborn | sudo is reminding me old ubuntu days heh |
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| 23:08.00 | unborn | Sygram: you could try that command and see it if it works |
| 23:08.13 | Sygram | on it |
| 23:08.57 | Sygram | in the var /home/$USER_NAME should i use root |
| 23:10.12 | Sygram | got it working |
| 23:10.15 | Sygram | will update |
| 23:10.16 | Sygram | lol |
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| 23:14.58 | Sygram | another question |
| 23:15.05 | dvs | time up1 |
| 23:15.08 | dvs | ;-) |
| 23:15.16 | Sygram | :( |
| 23:15.37 | Sygram | are these, all the repositories I need for my debian jessie |
| 23:15.38 | Sygram | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main non-free contrib |
| 23:16.20 | dvs | Sygram, you dont "need" backports but it's fine. But you need security! |
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| 23:16.45 | dvs | !jessie sources.list |
| 23:16.45 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 23:18.00 | Sygram | what do you by see <deb-src> ... etc |
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| 23:18.06 | Sygram | do you mean * |
| 23:18.17 | dvs | !deb-src |
| 23:18.17 | dpkg | 'deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ [wheezy|squeeze|jessie|stretch|sid] main contrib non-free' (for example), replace with your own for a local mirror. Ask me about <source> for some information about how to build stuff, make sure the "build-essential" package is installed. You might need to have linux-headers-$(uname -r) (if using a Debian kernel) and the libc6-dev packages installed. |
| 23:18.35 | Sygram | oh, I see thanks |
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| 23:18.53 | dvs | or, better yet, /msg dpkg deb-src |
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| 23:19.17 | Sygram | dvs, thanks |
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| 23:23.13 | fredl | well that's an interesting ipv6 gotcha I just learned |
| 23:23.57 | fredl | if an interface is configured as forwarding interface, such as automatically happens when you make a bridge.... it will stop accepting ipv6 router advertisements |
| 23:24.32 | fredl | fortunately however there exists a 3-value boolean in the kernel configuration |
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| 23:25.01 | dvs | 3-value boolean? |
| 23:25.17 | fredl | yeah |
| 23:25.19 | fredl | well |
| 23:25.19 | Dagger | accept_ra=0|1|2 |
| 23:25.25 | fredl | yup |
| 23:25.32 | Dagger | bridges don't require forwarding=1 though, I don't think |
| 23:25.46 | fredl | No I'm surprised about that myself Dagger |
| 23:25.46 | Dagger | as in, my bridges are set to 0 and both SLAAC and the bridge work |
| 23:26.08 | fredl | but it's the only cause I can find for my forwarding being set to 1 |
| 23:26.23 | fredl | but you're right it should not be neccessary |
| 23:26.25 | themill | assumes Boole is spinning in his grave |
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| 23:26.34 | dvs | heh |
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| 23:26.50 | fredl | :) |
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| 23:30.30 | fredl | does STP require forwarding=1? |
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| 23:31.25 | fredl | actually, hmmm I think I know the reason why my br0 is forwarding |
| 23:31.27 | fredl | hostapd |
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| 23:38.31 | egazz | evening all, a question/issue I'm hoping someone can help me with |
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| 23:39.08 | simbalion | if I try to do sudo cat blah >> restricted-file, I get permission denied, presumably because the >> part isn't performed as root. Is there a way around this? |
| 23:39.53 | fredl | well ask away egazz |
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| 23:40.29 | fredl | I'm in a good mood, guess I just got my exim to listen properly to ipv6 again, so why not help someone else :P |
| 23:40.35 | egazz | my issue is that my laptop will not suspend properly. Most of the time it'll do the suspend part, but then hard locks when I try to wake it up. Every once in awhile it does something that causes it to heat up like crazy. In either case I get a blank screen with the power button lit, but no response |
| 23:40.57 | egazz | thanks fredl |
| 23:41.19 | egazz | the output of uname -r, lsmod, and hwinfo is here: https://ghostbin.com/paste/4ujpn |
| 23:41.42 | fredl | I've had similar locking behavior before, in all cases proprietary firmware for NIC's were the problem |
| 23:41.59 | egazz | hmm |
| 23:42.32 | egazz | would that be the case even if it weren't on ethernet? It is connected to wifi when it happens, though |
| 23:43.06 | fredl | Well if you turn off your wifi interface, does the problem exist too then? |
| 23:43.36 | egazz | good question, I haven't tried that. I assume I have to do more than just disconnect from a network, right? |
| 23:43.39 | fredl | My RTL NICS required proprietary firmware but that was ethernet... BCM usually require proprietary firmware as well |
| 23:44.10 | egazz | yeah, the wifi in my laptop did |
| 23:44.19 | fredl | well depends, if Network Manager manages that interface as it likely does, just shutting down the interface from there may suffice |
| 23:44.26 | fredl | Try it, see if you like it :) |
| 23:45.13 | egazz | haha |
| 23:45.27 | egazz | yeah, it's using iwlwifi |
| 23:45.56 | egazz | but ok, I'll try that. Obviously I will disconnect...will be back on shortly if it works, longer if not (since that'll require a hard reboot) |
| 23:46.01 | simbalion | nvm got my answer |
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| 23:50.47 | fredl | hmm I should configure my pdns to give my kids' PC a default IP for all hosts they try to visit after they should be in bed, asleep |
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| 23:51.04 | egazz | back |
| 23:51.08 | fredl | much more fun than just blocking them |
| 23:51.19 | fredl | that took too long egazz, guessing it didn't help |
| 23:51.31 | egazz | fredl: that seemed to work, or at least I was able to suspend and wake up twice without issue |
| 23:51.52 | fredl | oh okay, gawd, I done my good deed for the day then |
| 23:51.56 | egazz | haha |
| 23:52.31 | egazz | but I guess the question is if there's something I can do or if I have to turn off networking every time |
| 23:53.18 | fredl | well... to me it's clear that it's a bug in the proprietary networking drivers |
| 23:53.38 | fredl | but good luck with telling the vendors |
| 23:53.50 | fredl | if that is where those drivers come from |
| 23:54.00 | egazz | they were package with debian |
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| 23:54.03 | egazz | packaged |
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| 23:54.09 | fredl | well not quite |
| 23:54.14 | fredl | they're in non-free :) |
| 23:54.39 | egazz | true |
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| 23:57.37 | egazz | could I at least set up a script to disable networking before suspend, and then to turn it back on? |
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