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| 18:41.08 | SCO | Hello,i would like to ask is there a bugfix for GNU C Library in Jessie,according to Ubuntu Security notices from 26 May? |
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| 18:41.34 | jelly | SCO: do you know a CVE number for that? |
| 18:41.51 | jelly | SCO: if you do, look it up on the |
| 18:41.56 | jelly | !tracker of doom |
| 18:41.56 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
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| 18:42.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 18:43.13 | ksk | squeeze has no open security bugs? gonna use that now! ;) |
| 18:43.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | is .xsession file still the proper place to put my applications/windowmanager start app? |
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| 18:44.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | or should i put stuff in /usr/share/xsessions/? |
| 18:44.41 | SCO | CVE-2014-9761 is linkid as vulnerable |
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| 18:45.07 | markybob | Eryn_1983_FL: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_entries#Autostart |
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| 18:49.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmm |
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| 19:01.10 | jelly | SCO: then it is vulnerable. Notes say debian's security team considers it a minor issue |
| 19:01.18 | jelly | aaand you're gone |
| 19:01.36 | jelly | lets it go |
| 19:01.36 | AimHere | Just like the SCO group |
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| 19:03.38 | ksk | Im not really into that whole SCO stuff, but will they let it go now? ;) |
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| 19:08.04 | aw | Does ubuntu support hyper v |
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| 19:08.43 | FinalX | aw: Debian is not Ubuntu and vice versa, perhaps you should ask there? |
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| 19:43.18 | Arthur_D | whenever I bridge br0 and eth0 I lose connection with the server and it cannot even be pinged, I have to use a rescue console to it and remove the bridging. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 19:49.08 | kubrickdave | anyone have small fonts when visiting hacker news (news.ycombinator.com) in iceweasel? i do use liberation fonts as standard aliases. |
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| 19:50.01 | kubrickdave | i'm running gnome on stretch. |
| 19:50.49 | TheSin | how does one can an invite to #debian-next? |
| 19:51.10 | TomTomTosch | !debian-next |
| 19:51.10 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:51.18 | TheSin | ah |
| 19:51.21 | TomTomTosch | TheSin, kubrickdave ^ |
| 19:51.29 | kubrickdave | generally font sizes don't seem to match between different fonts. |
| 19:51.54 | TheSin | ty kubrickdave |
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| 19:54.15 | Andre483 | hi, is there a way to configure sendmail so that it doesn't try to send the mail locally? I am trying to send emails and because the domain is matching with the user I am sending it to, it's requiring the user to be local |
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| 20:00.26 | agar_agar | Can any one tell me how to change a read only file sytem |
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| 20:05.27 | teraflops | agar_agar: nope unless you give more detailed info |
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| 20:05.54 | jmcnaught | agar_agar: "mount -o remount,rw /dev/device /media/mount" is how to remount a filesystem in read-write mode |
| 20:08.08 | rdz | hey. what script is called when doing 'dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates'? I get a nice whiptail dialog that adjusts width and height to my terminal and i wonder how it is doing that |
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| 20:12.24 | TomTomTosch | the lib used for the TUI is tui. if you want to learn what dpkg-reconfigure does you can read into debconf. |
| 20:12.32 | TomTomTosch | * ncurses |
| 20:12.38 | TomTomTosch | it's late... |
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| 20:13.00 | jmcnaught | rdz: dpkg-reconfigure is a perl script you could read if you want. it's using the debconf system to ask those questions. debconf has a few frontends, the default dialog one uses whiptail or dialog (debconf(7)) |
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| 20:13.40 | rdz | jmcnaught, ok, but do you know how whiptail knows the terminal width and height? |
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| 20:14.40 | TomTomTosch | i think that's a function in curses. |
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| 20:16.15 | rdz | TomTomTosch, ah.. i'll check.. thanks |
| 20:16.27 | TomTomTosch | interesting. it doesn't resize for me. are you on testing/unstable? |
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| 20:17.21 | rdz | TomTomTosch, I'm on jessie |
| 20:17.38 | rdz | TomTomTosch, do you have package xterm installed? |
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| 20:18.04 | rdz | it comes with 'resize' command which seems to do that.. i wonder if resizing is dependent whether xterm is installed or not |
| 20:18.09 | rdz | i seem to have it installed |
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| 20:18.36 | rdz | ah no., i don't have it installed |
| 20:18.47 | rdz | so there seems to be another way |
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| 20:27.14 | winsen | Hi all |
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| 20:28.57 | winsen | I had problem to open ntfs partition, this is error message: http://paste.debian.net/712762/, does anyone know how to fix it? thanks |
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| 20:30.15 | mtn | winsen: looks like fast startup was turned on in windows when you shut it down. |
| 20:30.27 | winsen | mtn: sorry? |
| 20:30.28 | mtn | winsen: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-10-a.html |
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| 20:42.15 | winsen | mtn: ok thank you. on the hand it seems to be less useful for windoz once I remove fast startup. |
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| 20:42.41 | winsen | mtn: thanks again |
| 20:44.10 | catbehem1th | when I am setting up a bridge with ipv6 after iface br0 inet6 static i have address and gateway etc lines, do I need to repeat bridge_ports eth0 eth1 and bridge_stp off? or having it under iface br0 inet static is enough? |
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| 20:47.44 | Die | Hat debian UEFI -Unterstützung haben |
| 20:48.00 | markybob | !de |
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| 20:48.00 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:48.08 | markybob | i assume that was german anyway |
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| 20:48.28 | TomTomTo1 | about as german as blinkenlights. |
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| 20:49.07 | zh1 | any decent free software pdf editor for debian? |
| 20:50.20 | unborn | pdf editor? inkspace? |
| 20:50.32 | TomTomTosch | zh1: bunch. you will have to see which one smell nice to you. https://wiki.debian.org/PDF#Editors_.2F_Generators |
| 20:50.40 | unborn | I dont know if there is any pdf editor |
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| 20:53.06 | catbehemoth | I want to create a bridge and enable ipv6 on it (I have net.ipv6.conf.br0.autoconf=0 because I want for everything to be fully manual) do I need to have bridge_stp off and bridge_ports eth0 eth1 under inet and inet6 or having in under inet is sufficient in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:53.18 | zh1 | TomTomTosch, i dont get why this is on list, "pdfedit was an editor for manipulating PDF documents; it is no longer available in debian" |
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| 20:53.56 | markybob | squeeze is still debian |
| 20:54.16 | Dagger | catbehemoth: my gut feeling is "no, just inet is enough", but I looked through all my systems and it turns out I've never tried doing that |
| 20:55.07 | Dagger | catbehemoth: in one case I used `up ip addr add 2001:db8::2/64 dev $IFACE` instead of a separate stanza |
| 20:55.09 | TomTomTosch | zh1: because someone thought it to be a good idea to keep it on the list. it's a wiki. |
| 20:55.44 | catbehemoth | Dagger: it's a headless machine that authenticates through ipv6 with AD so if I screw it up I need to find a monitor and keyboard (and most importantly the box itself) to restore everything, kinda need to be sertain lol |
| 20:56.40 | catbehemoth | Dagger: I just put it under both and try, wish me luck :D |
| 20:56.54 | Dagger | catbehemoth: hold on, testing |
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| 20:58.16 | Dagger | catbehemoth: seems to work fine with it just under one |
| 20:58.32 | catbehemoth | Dagger: thanks! brb trying |
| 20:58.32 | Enchanted | Miss You |
| 20:58.33 | Dagger | (I have inet first with the bridge config, and inet6 second with just an "address" line) |
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| 21:00.05 | catbehemoth | Dagger: one last thing I laways had 2 dns-nameservers lines one for ipv6 and one for ipv4 and it worked fine, do you know if I can combine then into one line? have both ipv4 address and ipv6 address on same dns-nameservers line? |
| 21:00.41 | Dagger | catbehemoth: ah, wait, there is one problem: when you do `ifdown br0`, Debian will destroy the bridge when it processes the inet section |
| 21:01.10 | Dagger | catbehemoth: then it attempts to flush the v6 addresses for the inet6 section, which fails because the bridge is gone |
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| 21:02.33 | catbehemoth | Dagger: am i better of creating 2 bridges? one for ipv6 and one for ipv4? seems too complex for something that simple |
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| 21:02.48 | Dagger | catbehemoth: (for me, that *seems* to cause no problems, but the error message annoyed me so I switched to "up"/"down" lines in the inet stanza for the v6 address) |
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| 21:03.24 | Andre483 | hi, I need to come up with a hostname for a server but I am not sure. any recommendations? |
| 21:03.43 | Dagger | catbehemoth: not sure about DNS servers (you can do them in /e/n/i?) |
| 21:04.00 | Dagger | catbehemoth: definitely not two bridges, that won't work |
| 21:04.16 | teraflops | Andre483: I use Lotr locations |
| 21:04.20 | markybob | Andre483: any word ever typed. or whatever your cat types on your keyboard. nothing could matter less. |
| 21:04.36 | Andre483 | well, I am reading articles where they are saying it should contain helpful information |
| 21:04.54 | Andre483 | like this hcluster3-web1.sjc.sl.serverdensity.net |
| 21:05.02 | markybob | if you're in a company with many machines. obviously you're not |
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| 21:05.48 | catbehemoth | Dagger: yeah you can using dns-nameservers (https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers) |
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| 21:06.11 | Andre483 | no one will actually know that hostname but internally it will be used heavily |
| 21:06.26 | Dagger | catbehemoth: grumble, that's not in the manpage |
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| 21:06.46 | Andre483 | agreed, it's just one server though |
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| 21:07.15 | markybob | Andre483: name it your favorite actor. superman. anything. |
| 21:07.20 | TomTomTosch | call it gunter then. |
| 21:07.29 | catbehemoth | Dagger: I think I simply set up ips for my eth0 and eth1 interfaces and a different one for the bridge, that way Illtest everything before getting rid of eth0 and eth1 config |
| 21:07.38 | Andre483 | shouldn't it be reflective of what the purpose of the server is mainly for though? |
| 21:07.48 | teraflops | Not at all |
| 21:07.55 | markybob | no |
| 21:08.00 | TomTomTosch | Andre483: if you want to. do what you feel like. |
| 21:08.09 | Dagger | catbehemoth: you need to have no IPs on bridge member interfaces though |
| 21:08.16 | Andre483 | this particular server will be running mysql, tomcat |
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| 21:08.32 | Andre483 | I was thinking of calling it servlet but it's probably not the best name |
| 21:08.37 | markybob | Andre483: call it mycat |
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| 21:09.19 | catbehemoth | Andre483: I usually follow http://mnx.io/blog/a-proper-server-naming-scheme/ worked fine till now |
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| 21:09.48 | Andre483 | catbehemoth: this is perfect! thank you |
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| 21:10.29 | Andre483 | just out of curiosity, is it difficult to setup clustering |
| 21:11.04 | Andre483 | does it require for the applications to be re-designed or is it strictly an infrastructure effort? |
| 21:11.16 | markybob | Andre483: not generally. i assume you're talking about multiple vps |
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| 21:12.29 | teraflops | Andre483: you mean high availability? |
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| 21:13.10 | Andre483 | for this particular server, it's running a mobile web app servlet. it requires a ton of memory and quite a bit of processing power... just thinking what effort it would be to setup multiple servers |
| 21:13.30 | Andre483 | the database instance would need to be synced through all of them |
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| 21:13.46 | markybob | Andre483: basically none. |
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| 21:14.07 | markybob | Andre483: big players like linode automate all of this |
| 21:14.19 | markybob | Andre483: not to mention amazon |
| 21:14.26 | Andre483 | this is great news :) |
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| 21:15.11 | catbehemoth | Andre483: something like aws should be perfect it scales with you needs, just get more cpus and more memory, for you it will always look like one machine |
| 21:15.30 | catbehemoth | err or is it ec2 |
| 21:15.38 | catbehemoth | always confuse those |
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| 21:16.17 | teraflops | Ha is easy as hell to setup on amazon or azure |
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| 21:18.08 | catbehemoth | Dagger: worked with inet and inet6 no errors on down |
| 21:18.14 | catbehemoth | Dagger: so I leave it as is |
| 21:19.02 | Dagger | catbehemoth: wonder why I get errors then. oh well |
| 21:19.16 | Sark | Just did a fresh install on a laptop, and have a *weird* bug with X. I can't get to the other consoles with ctrl-alt and the function keys |
| 21:19.35 | Sark | And it seems like X is on the wrong console, it's on F1 instead of F7 |
| 21:19.43 | Sark | F2-F7 just produce a black screen, no console |
| 21:20.11 | markybob | Sark: it changed in jessie. are you using the magic fn key in conjunction? |
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| 21:20.52 | Sark | Magic fn key? |
| 21:21.14 | Sark | I'm just using ctrl-alt-Fx |
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| 21:21.18 | markybob | yes. every laptop i've seen in a long time has a magic fn key |
| 21:21.18 | Sark | How do I fix it? |
| 21:21.39 | Sark | oh, yeah - that fn key |
| 21:21.42 | Sark | no, I'm not using that |
| 21:21.46 | Sark | just ctrl alt |
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| 21:22.01 | markybob | well try it |
| 21:22.28 | markybob | i have to get going but i'm sure others will take over |
| 21:22.44 | Sark | It doesn't work. Like I said, ctrl alt F2 gives me a black screen |
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| 21:42.32 | MaBunny | guys how do i connect to freenode via this irc client ---> http://www.vanheusden.com/fi/ |
| 21:44.23 | MaBunny | guys??? |
| 21:45.20 | MaBunny | i mean does freenode forbid connection via old irc clients?? |
| 21:45.29 | Pseudo | issit a new terminal irc client? |
| 21:45.30 | Pseudo | wow |
| 21:45.53 | MaBunny | no...its a terminal irc client as close as to xchat and mirc |
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| 21:46.17 | Pseudo | MaBunny: not i think and as long as you can provide the correct server and port it should can be connected |
| 21:46.24 | MaBunny | im talking to you guys via hexchat...and hav tht client open too |
| 21:46.38 | MaBunny | then what is it pls tell :0 |
| 21:46.41 | MaBunny | *;) |
| 21:46.48 | Pseudo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.55 | MaBunny | ok |
| 21:47.20 | Pseudo | or maybe it could be as /server irc.freenode.net:6667 |
| 21:47.56 | Pseudo | damn its just like bitchs but with a proper nicklist |
| 21:47.57 | xarragon | I am writing some udev rules and they ain't working. I have changed /etc/udev.conf to debug and restarted udev. Where the heck does the debug output end up? |
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| 21:48.00 | Pseudo | *botchx |
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| 21:48.53 | Pseudo | *bitchx |
| 21:48.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | xarragon, dmesg, maybe? |
| 21:49.12 | MaBunny | ok thnx Psuedo it worked :D |
| 21:49.17 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: No, tried that as well as journalctl -xa |
| 21:50.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh my, it's systemdified |
| 21:50.09 | xarragon | And udevadm test shows the rules being loaded probably |
| 21:50.10 | MaBunny | hi im back |
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| 21:50.17 | MaBunny | from the terminal :P |
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| 21:50.38 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: udev and systemd is tied together, yes.. to my chagrain |
| 21:50.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | xarragon, did you restart systemd-udevd.service? |
| 21:50.53 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: no, good point |
| 21:51.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems you could also run /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --debug or so |
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| 21:52.29 | xarragon | wow, i love systemd logs.. they are about as much use as Window's logs |
| 21:52.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, no, nothing can be as useful as that |
| 21:52.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | except the windows help, maybe |
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| 21:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, it's the same log messages as before |
| 21:53.34 | Zorroness | Howdy fellow debian people! |
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| 21:54.09 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: My guess is that the debug goes to the command-line monitor output or similar.. |
| 21:55.56 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: Well I probably did something simple wrong, I will dig through the tutorials/manuals once more. |
| 21:56.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | xarragon, man 8 systemd-udevd.service is your friend... and no.... I see udev messages all the time when plugging in/out usb devices |
| 21:56.01 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks for all your help. |
| 21:56.37 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: Oh, sweet didnt know they had man pages for those |
| 21:57.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not as informative as I thought it is when I started typing the sentence, though |
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| 21:58.48 | xarragon | CutMeOwnThroat: Btw, this particular system is actually running arch linux, hence the difference.. |
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| 22:00.59 | xarragon | gawd, love how the simplest 'this usually takes 5 minutes' craps itself and turns into a 5-hour job |
| 22:01.58 | antzero | Is it normal that viewing epub files is very slow? |
| 22:02.49 | antzero | I have installed okular-extra-backends and Okular now opens epub files but the loading and the use is very very slow in general |
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| 22:08.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | try FBReader? |
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| 22:14.40 | antzero | I switched to Calibre for epub, anyway I found an issue on github and it's a note slowness |
| 22:15.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | try FBReader? |
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| 23:05.25 | mrpelican | : Command line option 't' [from -t] is not known from apt-get |
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| 23:09.11 | awwal | -t ---» target release/default release |
| 23:09.41 | mrpelican | awwal, I don't understand |
| 23:09.58 | awwal | mrpelican, man apt-get :) |
| 23:11.33 | mrpelican | awwal, I'm doing apt-get -t jessie-backports package |
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| 23:12.18 | awwal | mrpelican, if you are running debian stable (right now Jessie) and you want to install X packages from another branch (unstable/testing - sid/stretch) you add that -t option to your command) |
| 23:12.20 | awwal | thats all |
| 23:12.37 | mrpelican | awwal, doesn't the command above do that? |
| 23:12.47 | awwal | mrpelican, apt-get install -t jessie-backports package |
| 23:13.12 | mrpelican | E: The value 'jessie-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
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| 23:15.28 | mrpelican | awwal, well thanks, works now, I removed the ending slash from /etc/apt/sources.lsit |
| 23:15.33 | awwal | mrpelican, first add backports repository to your souces.list file then run apt-get update then apt-get install -t jessie-backports yourpackage |
| 23:15.59 | awwal | !jessie-backports |
| 23:16.00 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 23:18.19 | awwal | dpkg tell mrpelican about bdo sources.list |
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| 23:19.02 | NipsuspiN | Hi |
| 23:19.14 | mrpelican | awwal, I see, so those are THE most up to date intel graphics drivers I can possibly get? |
| 23:19.23 | mrpelican | awwal, I can't push for more updated from sid or something? |
| 23:19.46 | NipsuspiN | So, anyone else experienced the "A start job is running for LSB: Raising network interfaces [xx seconds / no limit]" |
| 23:20.30 | awwal | mrpelican, running stable(jessie) its not recommended at all install pkgs from testing or sid |
| 23:21.08 | awwal | install the one from backports. or it doesn't suite your needs? |
| 23:21.21 | NipsuspiN | Because I'm in a strange situation where the computer hangs there literally forever (33h tested) but if I use the systemd (shit as that is) shell to kill the job it will boot and then internet does work |
| 23:21.56 | mrpelican | awwal, My problem is that cinnamon seems to be running VERY slow grafially |
| 23:22.01 | mrpelican | graphically |
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| 23:22.32 | Die | Is it better to compile a program then convert a rpm to deb? |
| 23:22.35 | awwal | mrpelican, try another DE |
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| 23:22.51 | mrpelican | awwal, I don't like the others. |
| 23:22.56 | awwal | gnome classic mode is similar to cinnamon |
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| 23:24.46 | NipsuspiN | No one else? |
| 23:25.04 | awwal | mrpelican, I wonder if you weren't the same user having issues with cinnamon rendering mode, but with different username :P |
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| 23:28.45 | mrpelican | awwal, Sounds like an interesting problem. o.o |
| 23:29.43 | awwal | mrpelican, if your debian system is just for daily home use, I suggest you xfce/lxde, or only a window manager |
| 23:30.32 | Phibonacci | Hello, I want to create a bridge to an interface with static IP for openvpn but doing disables the connection: https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenVPNBridging#Linux |
| 23:30.42 | Phibonacci | doing so* |
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| 23:43.18 | SPIHDMI | Hello |
| 23:43.21 | SPIHDMI | How can I write a script that when I run it it switches the mode from SPI to HDMI? I have my Pi in SPI mode for my touch screen, and I now would like to switch to HDMI. |
| 23:43.24 | SPIHDMI | I am using Raspbian Jessie |
| 23:43.25 | SPIHDMI | and a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B |
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| 23:47.54 | simonlnu | just run a sequence of your nick and you'll geta nice bridge of your own. :P |
| 23:48.17 | simonlnu | !raspian |
| 23:48.17 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 23:48.33 | simonlnu | SPIHDMI: ^^^ |
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| 23:50.03 | NipsuspiN | Anyone run into the problem of "A start job is running for LSB: raise network interfaces [x seconds / no limit]" |
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| 23:50.53 | NipsuspiN | Can anyone help with "A start job is running for LSB: raise network interfaces [x seconds / no limit]" |
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| 23:54.11 | SPIHDMI | simonlnu: Thanks, but how do I run that script? |
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| 23:55.23 | simonlnu | what script? |
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| 23:56.14 | simonlnu | oh. ask in #bash and #raspian |
| 23:56.15 | SPIHDMI | simonlnu: A script that when I run it it switches the mode from SPI to HDMI? I have my Pi in SPI mode for my touch screen, and I now would like to switch to HDMI. |
| 23:56.32 | SPIHDMI | simonlnu: Alright, I will |
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