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| 00:03.58 | Shadow_7_ | I can only assume that freenode rebooted |
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| 00:04.15 | Guest86771 | netsplit? |
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| 00:04.34 | teraflops | I think so |
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| 00:04.40 | matthiaskrgr_ | :s |
| 00:04.41 | Shadow_7_ | seemed like more than a netsplit. like my DHCP release expired |
| 00:04.49 | teraflops | heh |
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| 00:08.20 | Nenis43 | Outstanding customer service from Amazon. They are refunding me 100% on my opened computer. |
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| 00:16.34 | BenLue | hi together im using Apache 2.4 with debian. Now i have some trouble with my redirection (.htaccess) http://apaste.info/tlP mod_rewrite is enabled. when i folow an link i get The requested URL /user/login was not found on this server. My page isnt in an subfolder |
| 00:17.09 | BenLue | https://urls.s3root.ovh |
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| 00:42.15 | JaredFogle | sudo apt-get remove ian-murdoch |
| 00:42.32 | rrt | Hola |
| 00:42.37 | JaredFogle | lol |
| 00:43.23 | BenLue | ctrl +v = Fail? :D |
| 00:43.39 | rrt | I'm trying to make mps-youtube package work on Debian Jessie, it does install but can't search youtube or anything. I guess it's outdated, anyone has an idea or I should report it to tracker? |
| 00:44.06 | Shadow_7_ | versus minitube? |
| 00:44.13 | JaredFogle | So mps with search for youtube? |
| 00:44.16 | JaredFogle | cool |
| 00:44.20 | JaredFogle | I like the idea |
| 00:44.36 | rrt | JaredFogle: yeah command line youtube to listen mostly for my part |
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| 00:44.47 | rrt | annoyed of using gui |
| 00:45.03 | teraflops | JaredFogle: lol? |
| 00:45.09 | JaredFogle | So it scrapes the audio and plays it in CLI? |
| 00:45.11 | JaredFogle | cool |
| 00:45.18 | JaredFogle | That's neat |
| 00:45.29 | JaredFogle | teraflops: lol what |
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| 00:46.45 | rrt | Trying things so if there is anyone familiar with that, I will send you an imaginary chocolate cookie :3 |
| 00:46.47 | teraflops | JaredFogle: lol your idiotic 3 yo joke? |
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| 00:47.19 | JaredFogle | teraflops: 3 yo joke? I'm so lost. |
| 00:47.53 | teraflops | JaredFogle: yeah you are |
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| 00:48.04 | rrt | Shadow_7_: checked minitube it's cool but I'm more looking for being in text-mode to listen to youtube and/or bandcamp music from terminal |
| 00:48.29 | Shadow_7_ | rrt: youtube-dl... but meh, always out of date on stable |
| 00:49.08 | AlexLikeRock | Shadow_7 try youtube-dl |
| 00:49.20 | Shadow_7_ | I just use a second machine. And turn off the monitor |
| 00:49.24 | AlexLikeRock | They download the mp4 |
| 00:49.37 | rrt | How do you actually search youtube? |
| 00:49.38 | AlexLikeRock | They play whit mplayer |
| 00:49.57 | AlexLikeRock | Then*** |
| 00:49.59 | JaredFogle | public static var cops(var ianMurdoch){ianMurdoch = null; return ianMurdoch;} |
| 00:50.08 | JaredFogle | teraflops: ;) |
| 00:50.10 | rrt | Goal being: search & listen simply, I know I can map commands but maybe there is something already working lol |
| 00:50.39 | Devastator | !ops JaredFogle |
| 00:50.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: devastator complains about: JaredFogle |
| 00:50.40 | teraflops | JaredFogle: yes youre a prick |
| 00:50.45 | JaredFogle | lmao |
| 00:50.47 | Horton | really? |
| 00:50.53 | teraflops | fuking trolls ... |
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| 00:51.37 | Horton | also, it's Murdock, if wikipedia is to be trusted. |
| 00:51.37 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.55 | Horton | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Murdock |
| 00:52.02 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: jaja oyes troll y contestas? jeje |
| 00:52.11 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: feliz año nuevo |
| 00:52.17 | Shadow_7_ | also capital I... it's a var, not a function |
| 00:52.18 | AlexLikeRock | Si. |
| 00:52.29 | AlexLikeRock | La costumbre :-) |
| 00:52.32 | teraflops | xD |
| 00:52.43 | AlexLikeRock | Hapy new year |
| 00:53.00 | xxavi | I have a standard USB 2.0 webcam plug in system, when I view the video capture with cheese-like program I get a *lag* time in video ; I need any special configuration for standard USB 2.0 webcam ? |
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| 00:53.44 | Shadow_7_ | xxavi: a faster computer? there's v4l2-ctl and stuff to adjust webcam settings |
| 00:54.25 | AlexLikeRock | No xxavi |
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| 00:54.39 | xxavi | Shadow_7_: in various computers |
| 00:54.39 | Shadow_7_ | xxavi: v4l2-ctl --set-fmt-video=width=1280,height=720 && mpv --ao=jackd --vo=opengl --geometry +0+0 --demuxer-lavf-format=video4linux2 /dev/video0 |
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| 00:54.48 | Shadow_7_ | tends to be how I view my webcam |
| 00:55.18 | xxavi | Shadow_7_: ok, I try it, thanks |
| 00:55.23 | xxavi | AlexLikeRock: ok, thanks |
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| 00:55.45 | AlexLikeRock | No problem. Welcome to debian |
| 00:56.10 | rrt | Horton: he didn't worked long at docker, that's a cool project actually |
| 00:56.13 | xxavi | AlexLikeRock: thanks, I'm newbie in Debian worlf |
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| 00:56.16 | xxavi | world* |
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| 00:56.53 | Shadow_7_ | xxavi: there's also v4l2ucp to help adjust webcam settings |
| 00:57.49 | AlexLikeRock | Xxavi try whit mani programs |
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| 00:58.15 | xxavi | Shadow_7_: ohh, good, I try it too, thanks |
| 00:58.36 | xxavi | AlexLikeRock: ok, thanks |
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| 00:59.48 | SC0RP10N | So I got a really weird situation.... TLDR - Server with Debian 8. x64. Cannot login to su after reboot. Now, Ive verified the password is correct. Non-sudo accounts always login perfectly fine. No issues at all. Ive reinstalled 6x - made the password very basic ex password or similar to make sure there are no issue with me "spelling it incorrectly". It thought it might be due to using a usb keyboard. I went out and bought an old PS/2. |
| 00:59.48 | SC0RP10N | Nothing. Im at a lose because I want to use debian for my personal server but of course wont be able to if I cannot login to root. Any ideas? |
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| 01:01.03 | Shadow_7_ | by default ssh doesn't allow root logins... or am I missing something? |
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| 01:01.21 | SC0RP10N | gui |
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| 01:02.19 | teraflops | or if you set the passwd in tty with a different keymap maybe youre not typing the same in gui |
| 01:02.50 | Shadow_7_ | SC0RP10N: is it erroring instantly? or not responding 30-ish seconds? |
| 01:03.17 | SC0RP10N | about 3 secs |
| 01:03.23 | SC0RP10N | or less |
| 01:03.40 | Shadow_7_ | so enter registers? |
| 01:04.43 | SC0RP10N | Yup it registers I submitted it then gives the typical "sorry that didnt work please try again" |
| 01:05.03 | Shadow_7_ | SC0RP10N: perhaps... dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
| 01:05.21 | SC0RP10N | Wouldnt I need root? |
| 01:05.34 | Shadow_7_ | you can chroot to get that... |
| 01:05.45 | SC0RP10N | alright |
| 01:06.03 | teraflops | my 2 cents: the DE does not have the same keyb layout |
| 01:06.30 | Shadow_7_ | raspbian tends towards a brittish keyboard. # = squigel L... pipe = not pipe / tilde?... annoying |
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| 01:07.57 | SC0RP10N | Hmmm well thinking critically... I think it should work regardless. the password for "user" is password. Root is "pass" so if I can login to the user account they same keystrokes should register for the root password. |
| 01:08.51 | Shadow_7_ | might be capslock or other Fn type issue |
| 01:09.09 | SC0RP10N | nope |
| 01:09.24 | Shadow_7_ | I had an old laptop where Fn+shift would enable a special mode (leasons taught by cats) |
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| 01:09.32 | SC0RP10N | lol |
| 01:09.55 | teraflops | Shadow_7_: oh cats ikr |
| 01:10.07 | Shadow_7_ | plus I'd always hit that accidentally |
| 01:10.20 | SC0RP10N | Better watch out or they'll murder you in your sleep O.o |
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| 01:11.26 | teraflops | SC0RP10N: but appart from a kyboad layout issue or some weird keyb mode being activated it has no sense at all |
| 01:11.35 | SC0RP10N | ^^^ |
| 01:11.36 | Shadow_7_ | then the dog will eat her food and she'll get no more |
| 01:11.45 | SC0RP10N | Plus ive tried a brand new Iso downloaded fresh |
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| 01:12.21 | rescue | hey, still can not boot my system. volume group not found. debian jessie |
| 01:13.05 | teraflops | SC0RP10N: nah it's not about debian iso |
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| 01:13.30 | SC0RP10N | wel ya |
| 01:13.36 | SC0RP10N | Im just trying to cut out any possiblities |
| 01:13.44 | rescue | how does the /etc/default/grub.cfg have to look like for luks |
| 01:13.49 | SC0RP10N | I mean this doesnt make sense to begin with so |
| 01:14.48 | rescue | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:vgroup" is this relevant for booting ? |
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| 01:15.32 | gnubio | Happy GNU year! |
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| 01:22.55 | AlexLikeRock | Yeah GNU year |
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| 01:29.11 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: vente al birras |
| 01:31.04 | AlexLikeRock | NASA da weba |
| 01:31.06 | AlexLikeRock | Naaaa |
| 01:31.36 | AlexLikeRock | Cuandobkiero ponerle sabor al canal se les awita el #$%&@ y me banean |
| 01:31.59 | AlexLikeRock | Y por lo regular es bien aburrido el canal |
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| 01:34.29 | tpanarch1st | hello, i'm struggling with an FQDN not working properly |
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| 02:11.54 | roylaprattep | The Wheezy-Jessie upgrade was A1. |
| 02:12.01 | FuZi0N | Does Debian offer relro, fortify, pic/pie? |
| 02:12.05 | roylaprattep | Now going with the dist-upgrade! |
| 02:12.15 | roylaprattep | All's good for now... |
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| 02:14.50 | tpanarch1st | hello, could I ask, is there someone watching who is confident with FQDN's? |
| 02:15.01 | roylaprattep | Ask. |
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| 02:15.44 | tpanarch1st | hi roylaprattep i'm trying to do the initial stages of setting up my mail server and this is what I have http://snag.gy/xzC1C.jpg |
| 02:15.55 | tpanarch1st | the issue is there seems to be lots of different ideas of what should go there |
| 02:16.18 | tpanarch1st | or there's lots of incorrect (and therefore confusing) sources |
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| 02:18.22 | tpanarch1st | any ideas roylaprattep ? |
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| 02:20.07 | roylaprattep | http://s29.postimg.org/w175tp3xz/hosts.png |
| 02:20.15 | roylaprattep | That's mine. |
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| 02:21.19 | roylaprattep | I have mail server too. |
| 02:22.06 | tpanarch1st | excellent roylaprattep thank you for the practical response :) |
| 02:22.08 | tpanarch1st | lifesaver! |
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| 02:22.36 | tpanarch1st | roylaprattep: could I ask what is the difference between the two lines - if i'm going to remember, i need to understand :) |
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| 02:23.57 | roylaprattep | Theres not much difference man |
| 02:24.12 | roylaprattep | Both bound to the loopback interface. |
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| 02:25.06 | roylaprattep | There isn't a great deal of difference between the two; 127/8 (eg: 127.0.0.0 => 127.255.255.255) are all bound to the loopback interface. |
| 02:25.37 | tpanarch1st | ahhh and what is the purpose of the FQDN for later |
| 02:25.47 | tpanarch1st | ive got all that fun to come! |
| 02:26.02 | roylaprattep | You can remove it if you have permanent address tho. |
| 02:26.40 | roylaprattep | As you already have en entrie with your 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 02:26.40 | tpanarch1st | oh - home setup :) |
| 02:26.50 | tpanarch1st | I promise it's not to cause trouble |
| 02:26.53 | tpanarch1st | or spam or anything |
| 02:27.11 | tpanarch1st | half my battle is to ensure security to actually stop others breaking in right? |
| 02:27.39 | roylaprattep | You can leave your hosts files as it is. |
| 02:28.23 | tpanarch1st | roylaprattep: just been having a stab at this :) http://www.iredmail.org/docs/install.iredmail.on.debian.ubuntu.html#access-webmail-and-other-web-applications |
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| 02:31.01 | roylaprattep | Why ? |
| 02:31.12 | roylaprattep | I am using Roundcube, |
| 02:32.33 | tpanarch1st | sure :0 |
| 02:32.35 | tpanarch1st | :) |
| 02:32.40 | tpanarch1st | but what are you asking? |
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| 02:35.56 | roylaprattep | Nothing. I'm only tellin. :P |
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| 02:37.17 | ghj | Hi, what permissions does my user need so that the file manager can mount partitions? |
| 02:37.54 | roylaprattep | fstab control this |
| 02:38.00 | roylaprattep | just add the flag "user" in it, |
| 02:38.39 | roylaprattep | or users* |
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| 02:38.49 | roylaprattep | Don't remember. |
| 02:38.59 | ghj | roylaprattep: Where in it exactly? |
| 02:39.16 | roylaprattep | In your line where you configured your mount point. |
| 02:39.42 | roylaprattep | /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| 02:39.47 | roylaprattep | For example. |
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| 02:40.08 | roylaprattep | And it's "user", not "users" sorry. |
| 02:40.37 | ghj | So should I like declare every partition in it or what? |
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| 02:43.06 | roylaprattep | ghj: You should. |
| 02:43.24 | ghj | roylaprattep: Got it. Thank you. |
| 02:43.32 | roylaprattep | Np. |
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| 02:48.13 | PigDude_ | what font packages do I need for proper unicode support in debian? |
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| 02:50.37 | PigDude_ | presumably the answer is one of the packages listed on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUIFonts but not sure |
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| 02:51.35 | Amfmclockradio | ZOMG |
| 02:51.49 | PigDude_ | https://fruit.je/utf-8 only seems to cover console fonts |
| 02:51.56 | PigDude_ | or program config |
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| 02:53.10 | PigDude_ | i have fonts-dejavu-extra installed already ... hm .. |
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| 02:55.26 | ghj | So I changed the fstab. How can I make the system use the new config without rebooting? |
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| 03:02.52 | tpanarch1st | i've got W: Duplicate sources.list entry when downloading iredmail - i'm not sure what to do :( |
| 03:02.58 | roylaprattep | ghj: mount mountpoint |
| 03:03.34 | roylaprattep | tpanarch1st: Take a look in /etc/apt/ |
| 03:03.42 | roylaprattep | if there is 2 of them. |
| 03:03.44 | ghj | yeah. It gives me some permission errors. checking it out to see what I can find out. |
| 03:03.47 | roylaprattep | delete the bad one. |
| 03:04.57 | tpanarch1st | roylaprattep: http://snag.gy/ok4hR.jpg |
| 03:05.50 | roylaprattep | You can delete the one with the tilde ~ |
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| 03:06.10 | tpanarch1st | do i not have to now reinstall the whole system though |
| 03:06.20 | tpanarch1st | as it was going through the installer at the time it crashed? |
| 03:06.28 | roylaprattep | What ?! |
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| 03:06.42 | roylaprattep | Complete waste of time if you do that. |
| 03:06.50 | tpanarch1st | what is? :) |
| 03:06.50 | roylaprattep | Delete the one with the ~ |
| 03:06.56 | roylaprattep | do a apt-get update |
| 03:06.59 | roylaprattep | and try again |
| 03:07.02 | tpanarch1st | yeah, but is the install program not going to come into more errors |
| 03:07.13 | tpanarch1st | because there will be bits its done and bits it hasnt done |
| 03:07.27 | roylaprattep | Whatever. |
| 03:07.31 | roylaprattep | Do what you want. |
| 03:07.56 | tpanarch1st | i was hoping you'd explain why my concern was unfounded please? |
| 03:07.57 | tpanarch1st | :) |
| 03:08.07 | roylaprattep | Please read. |
| 03:08.14 | tpanarch1st | I have, |
| 03:08.26 | roylaprattep | I don't have enough time to answer all your little questions. I gave you solutions. |
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| 03:09.29 | tpanarch1st | "little" is subjective |
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| 03:09.58 | ghj | Ok now I fixed that errors and this comes up: mount: only root can mount /... /..... |
| 03:10.27 | tpanarch1st | more to the point, I was politely saying, given that you hadn't seen what the install program did, how long it ran for etc and given that it is a new install, is there any possibility that the installer having part changed a significant number of files could actually lead to even more problems |
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| 03:14.51 | roylaprattep | ghj: Show me your fstab |
| 03:14.53 | xormor | tpanarch1st, with root rights: apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a |
| 03:14.58 | roylaprattep | on pastebin |
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| 03:15.41 | ghj | /dev/sda2/somepointntfsuser,noauto00 |
| 03:15.59 | ghj | I just added that line. roylaprattep |
| 03:16.03 | roylaprattep | Thanks to all who helped me, the wheezy-jessie upgrade was smooth, only little tweak to do then I'm done! |
| 03:16.24 | roylaprattep | I want to see the file in nano or vi pls |
| 03:16.29 | roylaprattep | ghj: |
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| 03:17.15 | ghj | roylaprattep: Like I upload the file?:O |
| 03:17.38 | roylaprattep | http://pastebin.com/ |
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| 03:17.53 | roylaprattep | Is this a NTFS partition ? |
| 03:18.13 | tpanarch1st | roylaprattep: thanks for your help though anyway :) |
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| 03:20.28 | ghj | roylaprattep: Yes, NTFS. I added the errors too: http://paste.debian.net/359148/ |
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| 03:20.46 | ins3 | Hi, I have /dev/root and /dev/md2 and I want to merge /dev/md2 with /dev/root - how can I do this with fdisk? |
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| 03:21.12 | ghj | roylaprattep: Also the errors should be sda2 |
| 03:21.22 | ghj | typing issue. |
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| 03:22.23 | roylaprattep | ntfs-3g |
| 03:22.27 | roylaprattep | not ntfs |
| 03:22.35 | tpanarch1st | roylaprattep: you were saying to Delete the one with the ~ and do a apt-get update - same errors |
| 03:22.52 | tpanarch1st | xormor: im trying to get iredmail setup |
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| 03:22.56 | hagb4rd | query ecmabot |
| 03:22.59 | roylaprattep | did you tried what xormor said ? |
| 03:23.06 | tpanarch1st | which is supposed to install postfix anyway |
| 03:23.18 | tpanarch1st | the command just took me to an attempt to install it outside of the iredmail program |
| 03:23.21 | ghj | roylaprattep: Still the same. |
| 03:23.39 | roylaprattep | apt-get tpanarch1st apt-get -f install |
| 03:23.48 | roylaprattep | tpanarch1st: apt-get -f install |
| 03:24.34 | tpanarch1st | roylaprattep: sure - but iredmail warns that if anything is configured outside of iredmail, it will cause problems :) |
| 03:24.56 | ins3 | Hi, I have /dev/root and /dev/md2 and I want to merge /dev/md2 with /dev/root - how can I do this with fdisk? |
| 03:24.57 | roylaprattep | ghj: gpasswd -a username disk |
| 03:25.12 | roylaprattep | ghj: chown user /mnt/mountpoint |
| 03:25.48 | ghj | roylaprattep: I have full permission of the mount point. |
| 03:26.26 | ghj | What does the first command do exactly? |
| 03:26.27 | roylaprattep | ghj: you did chown username:username /mountpoint ? |
| 03:26.53 | ghj | roylaprattep: The mount point is in my home. |
| 03:27.06 | tpanarch1st | ah thanks anyway but i'm going to give it up as a bad job |
| 03:27.07 | roylaprattep | It will give access to the mountblock to the specified username to be able to mount NTFS-3G. |
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| 03:27.40 | ghj | disk is /dev/sda2 .right? |
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| 03:28.28 | ghj | uh, it is group disk |
| 03:28.39 | roylaprattep | no |
| 03:28.43 | ghj | Still the same error. |
| 03:28.44 | roylaprattep | group disk |
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| 03:29.44 | roylaprattep | ghj: Sometimes gpasswd need a reboot |
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| 03:29.51 | roylaprattep | so, try a reboot. |
| 03:30.00 | roylaprattep | come back after |
| 03:30.12 | ghj | oh god! I hate reboots! ok, let me try. |
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| 03:34.33 | ghj | roylaprattep: Problem solved. Thank you. Just one more thing. why gpasswd needed the reboot? And why not use other commands to add my user to the disk? |
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| 03:35.04 | roylaprattep | try to umount now |
| 03:35.22 | roylaprattep | I think it will not work unless you use "users" instead of "user" in fstab. |
| 03:35.27 | ins3 | Hi, I have /dev/root and /dev/md2 and I want to merge /dev/md2 with /dev/root - how can I do this with fdisk? |
| 03:36.22 | ghj | roylaprattep: It works. Thank you very much. |
| 03:36.47 | roylaprattep | ghj: Yeah we could used useradd instead, but what's the difference, it worked in many ways. |
| 03:37.10 | roylaprattep | it work* |
| 03:37.21 | ghj | Thanks.:) I still don't get why it needed a reboot. |
| 03:37.26 | roylaprattep | umount worked only with users tho ? |
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| 03:38.10 | ghj | No it worked with user too. roylaprattep |
| 03:38.23 | roylaprattep | ghj: Oh, fine then. |
| 03:38.27 | roylaprattep | ghj: Pleasure. |
| 03:38.39 | roylaprattep | ghj: I have no explanation for the reboot, sorry. |
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| 03:39.20 | ghj | ins3: /dev ? hmm |
| 03:39.25 | roylaprattep | I don't know why it's needed. |
| 03:39.45 | ins3 | ghj: yeah? |
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| 03:40.07 | ins3 | http://pastebin.com/raw/TuxWjRTJ |
| 03:40.16 | ins3 | ghj ^ |
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| 03:44.12 | ghj | I'm not sure if you can do that with fdisk without deleting the partitions. |
| 03:44.32 | ghj | Well, that won't be a merge exactly. |
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| 03:45.14 | ins3 | I don't really care; I don't have any data on there |
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| 03:47.15 | ghj | Do you mind giving me a sudo fdisk -l ? I never seen something like /dev/root before. ins3 |
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| 03:47.38 | ghj | paste.debian.net |
| 03:48.41 | ins3 | ghj: https://paste.debian.net/359151/ |
| 03:48.45 | ins3 | it's a dedicated server |
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| 03:51.36 | careta | anyone here an expert in apparmor? |
| 03:52.00 | bazhang | ,v apparmor |
| 03:52.01 | judd | Package: apparmor on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.103-4; jessie: 2.9.0-3; stretch: 2.10-2+b2; sid: 2.10-2+b2 |
| 03:52.05 | ghj | Well I don't know then. If both are on the same disk let's say disk sda then you do a fdisk sda and delete those and add a new one. Sorry ins3 |
| 03:52.23 | careta | if I have a file access rule /** rx, followed by /home/** rwx, will home be writeable? |
| 03:53.34 | ins3 | thanks ghj |
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| 04:05.27 | dioz | so. what's wrong with gterm? |
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| 04:05.49 | dioz | i'm running stable and gterm seems to be fucky |
| 04:05.59 | dioz | switching between windows, for example, in irssi |
| 04:06.17 | dioz | switching between screens with... screen |
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| 04:27.20 | tpanarch1st | hi, im unsure what command to use to locate where my roundcube install is, i tried locate but it bought back far too many results |
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| 04:45.59 | vvande | tpanarch1st: use the which command probably. Type "which roundcube". |
| 04:47.25 | vvande | And, from the web: /usr/share/doc/roundcube-core/README.Debian file gives you additional information |
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| 04:53.15 | tpanarch1st | vvande: thank you :) |
| 04:53.45 | tpanarch1st | from the roundcube website? |
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| 05:03.34 | vvande | tpanarch1st: I just googled and that line was in the results. Hang on I'll see if I can find it again. |
| 05:04.55 | vvande | It was this one. No idea if it's any use to you. https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy/webmail-roundcube |
| 05:05.12 | vvande | I saw a useful directory and copied it. lol |
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| 05:10.09 | drpresident | can someone help me with my nvidia proprietary drivers? |
| 05:10.34 | drpresident | every since i blacklisted nouveau and installed the nvidia-driver all i get is a black screen, and startx tells me "no screens found" |
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| 05:19.48 | drpresident | can anyone help me? |
| 05:20.22 | tomreyn | personally i would not, i'd suggest to stay away from them. |
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| 05:20.46 | tomreyn | nouveau drivers are ususally much better integrated into the system. |
| 05:22.31 | tomreyn | but then the proprietary ones can provide better performance if you can get them to work, and can handle the annoyance the repeated breakage (such as during driver or linux upgrades) causes. |
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| 05:23.48 | tomreyn | you may have noticed that several linux (kernel) developers are not great fans of the conduct of this company, which has its reasoning. |
| 05:24.19 | drpresident | so if i was going to play some pretty demanding 3D games you think the nouveau driver could handle it? |
| 05:25.14 | tomreyn | probably. just most likely with less speed and possibly less features than the proprietary ones. |
| 05:25.26 | Rusty1 | drpresident: what is the nvidia chipset that you have? |
| 05:25.41 | drpresident | which im fine with, since as of now im stuck doing evrything in terminal mode |
| 05:25.49 | drpresident | i believe its a 760M |
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| 05:28.07 | tomreyn | 760 (the desktop one) seem to wrok since mesa 10.1. |
| 05:28.40 | Rusty1 | try: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and see if you get a x session on reboot |
| 05:29.24 | drpresident | i believe i have that installed, what steps should i take to revert just to nouveau? i can remove it fromt the blacklist and uninstall the nvidia-driver but what else do i need to do? |
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| 05:31.57 | Rusty1 | drpresident: for the time being , to get a working xserver , nothing |
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| 05:33.09 | Rusty1 | drpresident: see if there is a nvidia driver package that matches the chipset , install it and hope for the best |
| 05:33.12 | drpresident | ok, im gonna try that |
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| 05:33.29 | Rusty1 | 304 , 340 , whatever |
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| 05:34.18 | drpresident | wait, how should i reconfigure the xorg.conf so that it will look for nouveau? |
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| 05:34.53 | mernilio | Hi all! |
| 05:35.11 | Rusty1 | the install should take care of that iirc |
| 05:35.24 | randomadsfads | wow |
| 05:35.26 | randomadsfads | just read the news about ian |
| 05:36.00 | OdicforceSounds | how to change hours ? |
| 05:36.13 | drpresident | alright thanks im gonna reboot |
| 05:36.17 | tomreyn | drpresident: might not be too easy after all unless you upgrade to kernel 4.1 + mesa > 10.4.0 |
| 05:36.22 | tomreyn | but you'll see... |
| 05:36.30 | mernilio | Its disturbing news. nerds know how to kill themself. |
| 05:36.57 | randomadsfads | damn |
| 05:37.04 | drpresident | whos ian? |
| 05:37.19 | mernilio | Its a tradic loss. nevertheless |
| 05:37.19 | babak | Debian founder |
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| 05:38.42 | mernilio | and he was only a little over 40 years old. Its sad. |
| 05:38.48 | tomreyn | drpresident: move xorg.conf out of the way before you'll switch back to nouveau, or you may end up with non-working X. |
| 05:39.06 | tomreyn | oh whoops i'm late |
| 05:39.34 | Binaryc | Long time user about to take the leap and put my daily driver on stretch. Watching the apt scroll feeling a bit of nostalgia and dropping in |
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| 05:40.47 | mernilio | Our condolansis goes to debbie and their kids. The last in deb-ian. |
| 05:41.15 | drpresident | hey so just wanted to let you know, i installed xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, did apt-get purge nvidia-*, and removed the xorg.conf and i have an x session running! thanks all for your help |
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| 05:43.26 | mernilio | In the kde-kommunity i live in. we have had a few suiicides. Its hard to handle. Being a good friend is all you can be! |
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| 05:44.42 | babak | it was rally suicide ? against police violence ? |
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| 05:44.51 | babak | rally\y/really |
| 05:45.29 | mernilio | honestly? I dont know.. there have been som police brutality.. |
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| 05:45.44 | randomadsfads | sounds fishy |
| 05:45.52 | mernilio | mm! |
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| 05:47.43 | tomreyn | at this point there are only rumors out there. various ones. it does not help to speculate. at some point the family will come forward with some details, or not. |
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| 05:48.39 | mernilio | You dont kill yourself because of rough police work. Of course not. |
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| 05:50.04 | OdicforceSounds | each one, who don't know how to handle emotive situations, can kill him self even because he didn't buy an ice screem |
| 05:50.36 | babak | from wikipedia.org: "Murdock continued to tweet that the police arrested him, beat him up, sexually harassed him..." |
| 05:52.24 | mernilio | Maybe he was gay and out in the street husting? |
| 05:53.37 | mernilio | I support the gay comminity here in debian. Baing a linux nerd is not a sexuall thing! |
| 05:53.50 | OdicforceSounds | :o that is an gay excuse.. are you gay? |
| 05:53.51 | mernilio | :-P |
| 05:54.12 | OdicforceSounds | ^.^ who are if you are or not |
| 05:54.21 | OdicforceSounds | damn it.. |
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| 05:55.44 | mernilio | Homosexuallity is still a hot issue it seems :-) Im not gay for the record. |
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| 05:56.54 | mernilio | "hot issue" .. bad use of words.. maybe... |
| 05:57.22 | OdicforceSounds | for the record() does anyone is recording this? yeah logs.. ok I understand you :p |
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| 05:58.29 | OdicforceSounds | "hot issue" is the best expression I hear... but then, it works for both sides |
| 06:01.49 | mernilio | Many have seen the motion picture with Joaquin Phenix as Johhny Cash. Here is the real deal with him att San Quitin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eNeY |
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| 06:02.11 | sandGorgon | hi guys - what is the recommended storage backend for debian 8.1 ? I'm not able to figure out whether I should use devicemapper, aufs, etc ? |
| 06:06.32 | mernilio | sandGorgon: There are many cheep hback up-utits you can use for your back-ups! |
| 06:06.56 | sandGorgon | mernilio, oops.. sticky fingers. this is for docker on debian. |
| 06:07.39 | mernilio | Just dont use tar änd gz .. thats to much nerdie. |
| 06:08.29 | mernilio | and for god sake, dont use rar. |
| 06:09.18 | OdicforceSounds | mernilio: made this track days ago.. send it to debian team https://www.mixcloud.com/odicforcesounds/dont-take-us-seriously-we-are-having-fun/ |
| 06:10.53 | SpaceAce | rip Ian Murdock |
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| 06:13.25 | mernilio | SpaceAce: The cops killed him.despite he was all white. How that match up with police brutality, we never can tell. |
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| 06:13.58 | SpaceAce | that's probably what happened |
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| 06:15.41 | mernilio | SpaceAce: He was probablly depressed also.! You dont till yourself from a little police beating. |
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| 06:16.25 | SpaceAce | oh definitely. what a waste of life |
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| 06:18.31 | mernilio | Other than Ian, goes our memory to his wife Debbie, and his two kids. |
| 06:19.33 | roylaprattep | Yeah baby. |
| 06:19.37 | mernilio | Debbie was the first in deb-ian. |
| 06:20.02 | roylaprattep | Wheezy-Jessie upgrade and dist-upgrade and all little after-tweaks done. |
| 06:20.12 | roylaprattep | Back in business. |
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| 06:23.40 | mernilio | What is your second man in charge when ian has passed away? |
| 06:24.12 | mernilio | If one can assk? |
| 06:25.12 | OdicforceSounds | don't ask if you can ask, just ask ! \: |
| 06:26.18 | mernilio | In the kernel theree is linus, Alan Cox, and Dave miller. |
| 06:26.54 | mernilio | not everyone can die at the same time.. :-) |
| 06:27.24 | OdicforceSounds | can, but let us not think about it.. |
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| 06:28.33 | mernilio | sure they can.... with some nerdish ingenous thinking.. everybody can die! :-P |
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| 06:30.48 | mernilio | But this is debian. We support the notion of being friendly. |
| 06:30.58 | OdicforceSounds | everybody will.. but is not expected that police handle it |
| 06:32.00 | mernilio | OdicforceSounds: my dad is a former police officer. Dont rain on his parade! |
| 06:32.22 | mernilio | :-P |
| 06:32.32 | jelly | mernilio: read the topic, please |
| 06:33.10 | OdicforceSounds | I say Police ( not your father ) ... see.. that is the biggest problem of interpretation. is like calling object to a class |
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| 06:34.01 | jelly | keep this channel for tech support, please |
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| 06:50.04 | nenis43 | why did Ian kill himself? |
| 06:50.25 | roylaprattep | Is it safe to remove the "lost+found" directory in the home dir ? |
| 06:52.27 | peterrooney | roylaprattep: no. |
| 06:52.45 | iflema | roylaprattep: no |
| 06:53.08 | iflema | not the best idea |
| 06:53.16 | valerius | roylaprattep depending on FS. For JFS, it is safe, for example |
| 06:53.41 | valerius | for ext2, it's not |
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| 06:54.09 | jelly | roylaprattep: this directory is part of ext2/3/4 and other fs types, used at fsck time. Keep it there. |
| 06:54.36 | jelly | !lost+found |
| 06:54.36 | dpkg | [lost+found] a directory where recovered information (bits of files usually) goes after repairing an ext{2,3,4} or XFS filesystem. Created by mklost+found or xfs_repair. |
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| 06:55.04 | Guest76819 | I accidentally remove some packages now I have no network and I cant start mate which package to install |
| 06:55.45 | peterrooney | well, if you do proceed with such madness, fsck will try to create it on its next run, and if it cannot, your data are doomed. |
| 06:55.46 | jelly | Guest76819: look at /var/log/dpkg.log to see which packages you removed |
| 06:56.49 | jelly | Guest76819: or, depending on the tool you'd used, /var/log/apt/ or /var/log/aptitude |
| 06:57.38 | AlexLikeRock | Or synaptic |
| 06:57.43 | AlexLikeRock | Were? |
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| 07:04.53 | Guest76819 | with apt |
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| 07:50.35 | Guest76819 | will I be able to install those removed packaged from the install cd? |
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| 07:55.30 | Guest76819 | will I be able to install those removed packages from the install cd? |
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| 08:01.20 | tomreyn | Guest76819: which "removed packages" are you referring to there? |
| 08:02.03 | tomreyn | maybe take a step back and tell us: what is the issue, what are you trying to accomplish? |
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| 08:06.16 | Guest76819 | I've lost networking and mate and obvious want them back. There's quite a large list of packages that I removed such as network manager. |
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| 08:07.18 | jpinx | Guest76819: probably easier to start again - fresh install |
| 08:07.43 | jpinx | sounds like a total screw-up and too difficult for you to unravel |
| 08:08.09 | tomreyn | Guest76819: that's unless you are into setting up and using a chroot AND running apt-get from the command line |
| 08:08.24 | tomreyn | but i'm mostly with jpinx there |
| 08:09.32 | rww | what's that bot command for checking backport dependencies |
| 08:09.33 | Guest76819 | OK, I can live with that. |
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| 08:10.19 | rww | ,checkbackport letsencrypt |
| 08:10.23 | judd | Backporting package letsencrypt in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: python-acme (>= 0.1.1~), python-configargparse, python-openssl (>= 0.15), python-sphinx (>= 1.3.1-1~). |
| 08:10.27 | jpinx | Guest76819: back up your data - preferable to something you can physically unplug, and start again:) |
| 08:11.00 | rww | bleh pythons |
| 08:11.07 | rww | ,checkbackport python-acme |
| 08:11.08 | judd | Backporting package python-acme in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: python-openssl (>= 0.15), python-sphinx (>= 1.3.1-1~), python3-ndg-httpsclient, python3-openssl (>= 0.15). |
| 08:11.18 | jelly | rww: you can /msg judd |
| 08:11.21 | rww | jelly: ah, thanks |
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| 08:36.42 | Haxxa | How often are updates pushed to debian repos? |
| 08:37.05 | Haxxa | I am considering installing deluge 1.3.12 but the rpo has only 1.3.10 |
| 08:37.08 | aedinius | I lose all of my input devices if Xorg exits (say I log out). It works fine on boot, but if it exits, Xorg.log reports "no input driver specified, ignoring this device". Why does this happen only on second Xorg instance and not first? |
| 08:37.11 | Haxxa | unless I use sid |
| 08:37.42 | aedinius | Haxxa: what does .12 have that .10 doesn't? |
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| 08:39.10 | jelly | .02 |
| 08:39.17 | Haxxa | aedinius, it fixes a web ui bug I have |
| 08:39.29 | Haxxa | .11 would also be ok |
| 08:40.12 | jelly | Haxxa: unless it's a critical bug that completely breaks functionality or is security related, it won't get fixed in jessie |
| 08:40.54 | jelly | ,checkbackport deluge |
| 08:40.55 | judd | Backporting package deluge in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 08:41.03 | jelly | dpkg, tell Haxxa about simple sid backport |
| 08:42.41 | jelly | Haxxa: don't use packages from sid directly, that can easily have serious consequences. Make a backported build of the newer version instead. |
| 08:43.33 | Haxxa | jelly, Do packages if not security related get updated in point releases i.e. would 1.3.12 ever be found in debian? |
| 08:43.47 | Haxxa | *debian jessie |
| 08:43.52 | Haxxa | like in 8.3 |
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| 08:44.04 | jelly | Haxxa: no |
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| 08:44.31 | jelly | repeating, only if it's completely broken or has security issues |
| 08:44.54 | Haxxa | jelly, how wouls something suddenly break? |
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| 08:45.16 | jelly | Haxxa: doesn't have to be sudden |
| 08:45.26 | Haxxa | elaborate? |
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| 08:45.41 | aedinius | "sudden" breakage are typically weeded out before it makes it to a release, I imagine. |
| 08:46.00 | jelly | it might be the version in jessie never really worked, but noone noticed. |
| 08:46.29 | jelly | it might be some package relies on an outside API and the API changed |
| 08:47.09 | jelly | it might be it relied on a bug in a different package that got fixed |
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| 08:48.38 | Haxxa | ok the other issue becomes as deluge is a server to more updated clients if the server gets to old - then the clients may not communicate correctly in which case I would need to backport right? |
| 08:48.44 | aedinius | Hm. Reboots are fast these days. I'll just remap logout to reboot :| |
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| 08:48.50 | Haxxa | which is considered bad practise |
| 08:49.04 | Babelfischchen | test |
| 08:49.27 | aedinius | Haxxa: Depends, are we talking bt protocol or what? |
| 08:49.27 | jelly | Babelfischchen: test failed. |
| 08:49.34 | aedinius | Babelfischchen: test passed. |
| 08:49.48 | Babelfischchen | Thx :) |
| 08:50.02 | jelly | it's a heisentestresult |
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| 08:50.06 | aedinius | no, you have to figure out why it only sometimes passes |
| 08:50.24 | aedinius | my bet is on system gremlins |
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| 08:51.31 | jelly | Haxxa: you can ask the backports people to include it in jessie-backports |
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| 08:57.57 | Haxxa | jelly life is short debian should just pull packages built from source in repos make it completely new |
| 08:58.13 | Haxxa | every package up to date! :) |
| 08:58.29 | aedinius | There's always arch? |
| 08:58.42 | aedinius | They play it fast and loose with the packages... |
| 08:58.58 | Haxxa | aedinius, nah arch is unstable sometimes |
| 08:59.03 | aedinius | .... |
| 08:59.15 | Haxxa | aedinius, I want new and completely stable |
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| 08:59.50 | aedinius | k |
| 09:00.02 | jelly | Haxxa: life is too short to introduce bugs and new interactions into a release Debian calls "stable" |
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| 09:00.23 | jelly | "new" and "stable" work against each other |
| 09:00.24 | aedinius | Haxxa: Just roll with testing. |
| 09:00.53 | Haxxa | aedinius, This is a production server |
| 09:00.56 | aedinius | I mean, it works for me except like 3 outstanding issues. |
| 09:01.08 | jelly | Haxxa: thus: you use stable as a platform. Only introduce small bits of new stuff that you actually need. |
| 09:01.36 | jelly | that's the workflow that works well when you have a debian installation |
| 09:01.59 | Haxxa | Sad bugs exist :( if only programmers coded perfectly - too careless I say! |
| 09:02.13 | jelly | !nopony Haxxa |
| 09:02.13 | dpkg | Haxxa: http://www.brainfuel.tv/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/nopony.jpg |
| 09:03.12 | aedinius | ... great. |
| 09:03.18 | aedinius | now keyboard doesn't work on boot |
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| 09:04.40 | aedinius | wait, I think I know why. |
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| 09:07.20 | chiefahol | other peripheral plugged in? like a joystick? |
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| 09:08.30 | aedinius | No, that time it was part of experimenting, I broke 10-evdev.conf. But the exit and then everything breaks happens on two systems, one of which is a laptop without anyone plugged in |
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| 09:09.01 | mumbles1 | hello, is this a place i could get some help with my debian install or am i better off going to a forum |
| 09:09.07 | derener | i have a question about the debian-installer |
| 09:09.11 | aedinius | Doesn't hurt to ask. |
| 09:09.43 | derener | does the debian-installer copy the debs in the harddrive and then installs them? |
| 09:10.24 | aedinius | I believe only if its a netinstall. if its a cd/disk install, I don't think it does. |
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| 09:10.42 | mumbles1 | ok.. i have a bootable usb with jesse 8 on it. i left it on one day, came home and rebooted and got this error after entering the decrypt passwrd |
| 09:10.45 | derener | shouldn't this be fixed for netinstall? |
| 09:11.21 | derener | debian installation takes too long for no reason |
| 09:11.42 | derener | i think ubuntu installer has fixed this |
| 09:11.54 | at0m | derener: netinstall downloads the selected packages from repo's, it has to store them somewhere. |
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| 09:12.09 | at0m | just like apt/aptitude do |
| 09:12.11 | mumbles1 | /bin/sh : cant't access tty ; job control turned off |
| 09:12.18 | mumbles1 | (initramfs) |
| 09:12.32 | aedinius | mumbles1: can't find the boot partition |
| 09:12.35 | aedinius | err / |
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| 09:13.51 | mumbles1 | theres a bunch of other stuff above it about manual tsck , modprobe and busybox |
| 09:14.10 | aedinius | fsck you mean? |
| 09:14.15 | mumbles1 | yep |
| 09:14.25 | mumbles1 | sound familiar |
| 09:14.26 | aedinius | might not be able to mount /. |
| 09:14.36 | aedinius | try fsck'ing whatever gets mounted as / |
| 09:14.38 | mumbles1 | any fix? |
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| 09:15.43 | mumbles1 | /dev/mapper/debian--vg-rppt: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY ; RUN fsck manually |
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| 09:16.08 | s4ndm4n | I am using Wireshark 2.0 (from jessie-backports) and it currently looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/gaR59EL.png What packages do I need to fix its look? |
| 09:16.12 | aedinius | rppt ? |
| 09:16.22 | mumbles1 | rppt? |
| 09:16.32 | aedinius | < mumbles1> /dev/mapper/debian--vg-rppt: |
| 09:16.46 | mumbles1 | sorry means nothing |
| 09:16.48 | aedinius | rppt is weird. anyway. that's what you got when you ran it manually? |
| 09:17.21 | mumbles1 | no thats just the msg when trying to boot |
| 09:17.38 | aedinius | oh. run it then |
| 09:17.45 | mumbles1 | how |
| 09:17.46 | aedinius | fsck /dev/mapper/debian--vg-rppppppt |
| 09:17.59 | mumbles1 | ok |
| 09:18.12 | aedinius | or not. i dunno. |
| 09:18.15 | aedinius | fixes another drink |
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| 09:19.27 | mumbles1 | error 2 no such file |
| 09:19.29 | morf | takes the drink |
| 09:19.31 | morf | thanks |
| 09:19.47 | morf | where is the other one? :) |
| 09:20.25 | aedinius | mumbles1: well don't like use so many ps |
| 09:20.30 | aedinius | p's? |
| 09:20.31 | aedinius | pees |
| 09:20.49 | aedinius | morf: give it back |
| 09:21.00 | morf | the glass? |
| 09:21.03 | mumbles1 | error 2 (no such file or directory) while executing fsck.ext2 for /dev/mapper/debian-vg-rppt |
| 09:21.05 | aedinius | no the whole thing |
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| 09:21.14 | morf | well the thing is... the glass :) |
| 09:21.24 | aedinius | where's the contents |
| 09:21.30 | aedinius | you know what, i don't care |
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| 09:21.36 | morf | yeah carry on |
| 09:21.47 | aedinius | mumbles1: so its like not there or something |
| 09:22.04 | aedinius | mumbles1: run vgscan ? |
| 09:22.34 | mumbles1 | not found |
| 09:23.06 | mumbles1 | im in (initramfs) does that matter |
| 09:23.29 | aedinius | hm. i dunno? |
| 09:23.33 | aedinius | I assumed it'd be there. |
| 09:23.42 | aedinius | vgactivate -y ? |
| 09:23.45 | mumbles1 | modprobe : module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep |
| 09:24.08 | mumbles1 | not found |
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| 09:24.12 | aedinius | you said this was external? |
| 09:24.16 | aedinius | what's your PATH ? |
| 09:24.23 | mumbles1 | usb |
| 09:24.23 | aedinius | echo $PATH |
| 09:25.14 | jelly | mumbles1: does "vgchange -ay" work in initramfs shell? |
| 09:25.14 | morf | path not found |
| 09:25.56 | mumbles1 | path /sbin:/usr/sbin"/bin:/usr/bin |
| 09:26.07 | jelly | wonders why the LV name for root filesystem is misspelled as rppt |
| 09:26.32 | aedinius | seriously. |
| 09:26.34 | aedinius | wait |
| 09:26.37 | aedinius | let's try something |
| 09:26.53 | aedinius | fsck /dev/mapper/debian*vg-r*t |
| 09:26.59 | aedinius | wait wait |
| 09:27.02 | aedinius | fsck /dev/mapper/* |
| 09:27.05 | aedinius | fsck it all! |
| 09:27.05 | mumbles1 | yep that came back with 2 logical volumes in volume group "debian-vg" now active |
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| 09:27.25 | jelly | aedinius: what are you trying to accomplish with those fscks |
| 09:27.42 | jelly | mumbles1: that's good. Now just exit the initramfs shell. |
| 09:27.45 | aedinius | fsck it all! fsck it all... |
| 09:28.02 | mumbles1 | how to exit |
| 09:28.05 | aedinius | exit |
| 09:28.09 | jelly | ^^ |
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| 09:28.23 | jelly | or control-d |
| 09:28.43 | mumbles1 | came back with errors and same tty error |
| 09:28.50 | jelly | orly |
| 09:29.03 | aedinius | tty error is irrelevant, ignore it |
| 09:29.11 | mumbles1 | fsck exited with status code 4 |
| 09:29.14 | aedinius | It's because of the environment being wonky since the system isn't all booted and you know? |
| 09:29.25 | jelly | mumbles1: put _all_ those errors in a pastebin. Take a shot of the screen if possible and upload it someplace |
| 09:29.25 | aedinius | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.03 | mumbles1 | ok ill be back |
| 09:30.06 | mumbles1 | thank you |
| 09:32.56 | jelly | aedinius: I don't think it's a great idea to suggest fsck before we know whether the device nodes exist at all, or to fsck unrelated volumes for no real reason |
| 09:34.03 | aedinius | I don't think it'd do harm. 1) if mounted, it'll whine and quit. 2) if unrelated, eh, extra fsck. regardless: 3) if nothing wrong, not happens. if something wrong, might be related. |
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| 09:34.56 | jelly | at the very least it wastes time |
| 09:36.52 | jelly | it might do harm if the user has hibernation in place -- journal is replayed, resume is not possible any more and there might be some minor data loss |
| 09:37.12 | aedinius | Ah, I hadn't thought of that. |
| 09:37.44 | jelly | it's really doing a random act without a reason |
| 09:37.57 | aedinius | I was aiming for fsck'ing the root (hence the r*t) since it seemed that there was an issue with it |
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| 09:39.09 | jelly | tho yes, I missed /dev/mapper/debian--vg-rppt: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY ; RUN fsck manually |
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| 09:39.26 | jelly | but in this case it was a bogus message |
| 09:39.41 | aedinius | Do we have confirmation of that? |
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| 09:40.08 | jelly | the fact it did not exist at all is confirmation |
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| 09:40.34 | jelly | error 2 (no such file or directory) while executing fsck.ext2 for /dev/mapper/debian-vg-rppt |
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| 09:40.54 | aedinius | oh. |
| 09:40.58 | jelly | or course that might have been a typo |
| 09:41.43 | aedinius | i'm betting its a typo somewhere. |
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| 09:42.55 | achylles | When I plug my earphones on my laptop Debian does not show a popup message showing it. How can I enable the popup message? |
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| 09:43.41 | achylles | is there a config file to make that happens or a package? |
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| 09:51.00 | mumbles1 | http://postimg.org/image/6pgaevpaj/ |
| 09:51.05 | mumbles1 | sorry that took ages |
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| 09:54.22 | jelly | mumbles1: right. you'll have to do a "fsck -C /dev/mapper/debian--vg.root" or something similar |
| 09:54.39 | jelly | mind the typo |
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| 09:55.14 | mumbles1 | whats the typo |
| 09:55.47 | jelly | fsck -C /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root |
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| 09:56.22 | mumbles1 | done |
| 09:56.36 | mumbles1 | fsck from util-linux 2.25.2 |
| 09:56.47 | jelly | rww: so did you manage to backport letsencrypt or what |
| 09:57.05 | rww | ended up using letsencrypt.sh instead |
| 09:57.13 | jelly | mumbles1: did it exit right away? |
| 09:57.19 | mumbles1 | no |
| 09:57.21 | rww | simple shellscript, none of the python dependencies |
| 09:57.25 | mumbles1 | still in init |
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| 09:57.44 | jelly | mumbles1: I mean fsck, did it finish and return the prompt? |
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| 09:58.03 | rww | I read there's some DDs working on a bpo backport for letsencrypt though |
| 09:58.04 | mumbles1 | when i exit? |
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| 09:58.14 | jelly | mumbles1: when you did the fsck command |
| 09:58.40 | mumbles1 | no it just came back with this sck from util-linux 2.25.2 |
| 09:58.52 | jelly | mumbles1: and nothing else? |
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| 09:58.56 | jelly | that's weird |
| 09:58.57 | mumbles1 | no |
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| 09:59.33 | jelly | mumbles1: do you have some live image of linux to boot instead? |
| 09:59.57 | mumbles1 | i have a dvd |
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| 10:01.15 | achylles | how do I install an atheros wireless card in a new lenovo laptop > atheros qualcomm that needs a ath10k drive. I the last kernel in stretch and that does not work. Then, I compiled that using backports. It does, but on rebooting they do not load and I get stuck with ath9k which does not fit my card :( |
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| 10:01.38 | jelly | mumbles1: boot that instead, then bring up lvm (vgchange -ay), then do the fsck |
| 10:02.06 | ayansh | hi Debian, i have Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter on jessie, i am not able to connect to 5Gz wifi network of dual band router. |
| 10:02.31 | ayansh | iwlist wlan0 freq #i can see 5Gz listed. |
| 10:02.55 | ayansh | :-( just purchased RT-AC68U |
| 10:02.57 | mumbles1 | so boot it and run from terminal the fsck |
| 10:03.04 | achylles | tons of people are having issues with this new atheros card that needs ath10k. |
| 10:03.12 | jelly | mumbles1: yes |
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| 10:03.15 | mumbles1 | on the usb |
| 10:03.36 | mumbles1 | i will need your help i think.. |
| 10:04.01 | ayansh | i was getting slow speed with scp and X redirection, so i purchased dual band Asus RT-AC68u router. however still the same. |
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| 10:04.39 | ayansh | not able to connect to 5GHz network. |
| 10:05.11 | mumbles1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.34 | ayansh | followed https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 10:06.03 | mumbles1 | it will only allow me to install not run |
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| 10:09.03 | mumbles1 | @jelly can i fsck the usb from the ubuntu install im chatting on now |
| 10:09.22 | jelly | mumbles1: oh well. When you get a rescue shell, start the vg again, look at the contents of /dev/mapper/ to see if debian--vg-root is present, then run fsck again |
| 10:09.35 | jelly | mumbles1: yes |
| 10:10.27 | mumbles1 | ok i have terminal open , do i change to the usb dir |
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| 10:11.11 | mumbles1 | it is encrypted btw |
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| 10:12.40 | jelly | encrypted how? |
| 10:13.07 | mumbles1 | full disk |
| 10:13.42 | jelly | mumbles1: you don't need to change to any dir. Just open a root shell (sudo -i) and start the volume group. |
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| 10:13.53 | mumbles1 | ok |
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| 10:14.15 | mumbles1 | done |
| 10:14.17 | jelly | mumbles1: after that, show the output of "lsblk" in a pastebin |
| 10:14.22 | mumbles1 | it changed to red |
| 10:14.31 | jelly | what did? |
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| 10:14.45 | jelly | !paste |
| 10:14.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 10:17.06 | mumbles1 | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/63771d60/ |
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| 10:18.11 | jelly | so... you decrypted it on your own in ubuntu already, good |
| 10:18.36 | mumbles1 | no |
| 10:18.53 | jelly | how did it recognize the contents, then? |
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| 10:19.51 | mumbles1 | it asked me for a password when i inserted but it says was incorrect. it must have given the wrong response |
| 10:20.11 | mumbles1 | it is mounted now anyway |
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| 10:20.32 | jelly | um, what's mounted now? |
| 10:20.45 | jelly | mumbles1: show the output of "df" |
| 10:20.47 | mumbles1 | the usb |
| 10:21.51 | mumbles1 | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/981d2470/ |
| 10:22.18 | mumbles1 | my wife just crashed her car.. will be back soon |
| 10:24.11 | mumbles1 | all good |
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| 10:26.43 | An_Ony_Moose | mumbles1: they're mounted in /media/rhphc |
| 10:26.56 | An_Ony_Moose | it is even |
| 10:27.08 | An_Ony_Moose | you should be able to open it in your file manager |
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| 10:28.43 | tomreyn | ayansh: you could try this proprietary driver https://packages.debian.org/jessie/broadcom-sta-dkms |
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| 10:31.06 | mumbles1 | @ jelly im back |
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| 10:32.42 | jelly | mumbles1: okay. so right now you'll probably want to "umount /media/rhphc/e70ed536-2b92-45b1-b25d-f93d41fff9ee" and do that fsck. |
| 10:33.26 | mumbles1 | yep |
| 10:33.42 | ayansh | tomreyn:already tried, upgrading kernel now. |
| 10:33.46 | mumbles1 | which was the fsck again? |
| 10:34.38 | tomreyn | ayansh: which ID does lsusb report for your BCM4313? |
| 10:35.03 | tomreyn | * device ID |
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| 10:36.57 | mumbles1 | this - fsck -C /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root |
| 10:37.08 | ayansh | tomreyn: Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0a5c:21e3 Broadcom Corp. HP Portable Valentine |
| 10:37.41 | jelly | mumbles1: yes |
| 10:38.08 | ayansh | and from lspci => 0a:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
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| 10:38.43 | mumbles1 | done |
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| 10:39.03 | mumbles1 | /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** |
| 10:39.04 | mumbles1 | /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root: 184576/909312 files (0.2% non-contiguous), 2368127/3634176 blocks |
| 10:39.21 | jelly | mumbles1: that means it should be fine now |
| 10:39.32 | mumbles1 | hell yes!! |
| 10:39.38 | mumbles1 | ill give it a go |
| 10:40.01 | jelly | remember to unplug the device cleanly |
| 10:40.24 | mumbles1 | oops |
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| 10:42.32 | mumbles1 | fixed!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:42.32 | mumbles1 | thank you jelly |
| 10:42.38 | mumbles1 | you are my hero |
| 10:43.27 | Devastator | ownnnn <333 heh |
| 10:43.53 | jelly | aedinius has done the useful detection work there |
| 10:44.01 | jelly | !win mumbles1 |
| 10:44.01 | dpkg | Congratulations, mumbles1! You have won a one way ticket to Charlotte, North Carolina ... YeeHaw!! |
| 10:44.10 | mumbles1 | thanks aedinius |
| 10:44.32 | mumbles1 | so happy |
| 10:44.43 | mumbles1 | any idea why it happend |
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| 10:51.14 | mumbles1 | it was working fine when i left for work. came home and had that froblem |
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| 10:58.00 | Filystyn | helo;-) |
| 10:58.02 | Filystyn | Problem |
| 10:58.03 | Filystyn | ;> |
| 10:58.17 | Filystyn | guys i would like to save somewhere iceweasel configuration |
| 10:58.26 | Filystyn | because i neeed to purge it and than reinstall;) |
| 10:58.33 | Filystyn | i mean the |
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| 11:00.09 | Amun_Ra | Filystyn: save entire $HOME/.mozilla directory somewhere |
| 11:00.30 | Amun_Ra | Filystyn: oh, purging iceweasel won't remove user files |
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| 11:02.14 | Filystyn | ok |
| 11:02.21 | Filystyn | sorry dic but i will read now |
| 11:02.25 | Filystyn | disc** |
| 11:02.54 | Filystyn | the problem is solved |
| 11:02.55 | Filystyn | ;) |
| 11:03.06 | Filystyn | somethign retardid happened but it got fixed |
| 11:03.08 | Filystyn | ;> |
| 11:03.11 | Filystyn | no need to purge |
| 11:03.17 | Filystyn | cya all and thank you for help ! |
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| 11:19.28 | tomreyn | ayansh: thanks, (and sorry for the late response, been sidetracked), that's a bluetooth device, though |
| 11:20.19 | tomreyn | the ID should start with 14e4, i assume |
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| 11:29.57 | ayansh | tomreyn: 0a:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01) |
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| 11:35.52 | ayansh | installed version: 6.30.223.271 (r587334) however still the same. iwlist freq can give me channel list which includes Channel 124 : 5.62 GHz |
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| 11:42.55 | tomreyn | ayansh: and lsmod reports which driver ? |
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| 11:43.07 | tomreyn | lsmod | egrep 'b43|brcm' |
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| 11:46.57 | ayansh | tomreyn: i have driver: wl0 in use. |
| 11:47.12 | ayansh | wl 6447104 0 |
| 11:47.19 | ayansh | cfg80211 544768 1 wl |
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| 11:48.37 | tomreyn | lspci -knnv | grep -A10 Wireless | grep 'driver' |
| 11:48.41 | tomreyn | reports the same? |
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| 11:49.39 | ayansh | lspci -knnv | grep -A10 Wireless | grep -i 'driver' #no output |
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| 11:50.50 | ayansh | Kernel driver in use: wl |
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| 11:51.41 | tomreyn | okay thats the proprietary one indeed https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
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| 11:52.16 | tomreyn | so NOT the brcmsmac one |
| 11:52.55 | tomreyn | you could blacklist wl in /etc/modprobe.d/ to try the open one instead |
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| 11:53.23 | tomreyn | but if you already tried both then i have no further suggestions, i'm afraid |
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| 11:53.39 | tomreyn | other than maybe disabling bluetooth if you have it enabled |
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| 11:53.59 | tomreyn | this often helps improve wlan signalling quality. |
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| 12:01.40 | ayansh | tomreyn: Thanks for your time, i would resume later on this issue. |
| 12:02.04 | tomreyn | good luck there |
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| 12:05.28 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, re you there? my previuos hdd has died....so i have to install again system from netinst xD only 1 thing....during parting, i have NAME and LABEL in options of each partition....what do they mean? |
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| 12:11.31 | tomreyn | DoctorD90: are there any example or pre-populated values given in these columns which you can share with us? |
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| 12:12.54 | tomreyn | DoctorD90: to me, the meaning of these terms is pretty similar, but i don't remember exactly how they are used on the manual partitioning screens of the debian installer. |
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| 12:14.12 | DoctorD90 | hi tomreyn :) no, empty value. Im using my own language as installation, so i may translate from it. During creation of partition, once i set Dimension, it showes me other setting; |
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| 12:15.01 | DoctorD90 | in these settings at top it says "name", "use as", "mount point", "mount options", "label", etc... |
| 12:15.03 | tomreyn | DoctorD90: can you show a screenshot maby? |
| 12:15.47 | DoctorD90 | if i enter name, it says "partiotion name", if i enter in label it says "label for file system of this partition" |
| 12:16.11 | tomreyn | yes, makes sense |
| 12:16.23 | tomreyn | so name refers to the device name |
| 12:16.23 | DoctorD90 | eh... tomreyn it is in italian :P due to this i translate instead of provide screeen xD |
| 12:17.17 | tomreyn | and label is a value you can set freely (i would suggest restricting yourself to alphanumerical values, though) |
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| 12:18.05 | tomreyn | i would expect that you cannot actually edit the "name" value then |
| 12:18.37 | DoctorD90 | ehm...wait...one moment |
| 12:18.46 | DoctorD90 | in this partition i will set luks |
| 12:18.57 | DoctorD90 | so name and label where i can see in future? |
| 12:19.36 | DoctorD90 | for example, when i open file manager, on the left, it will show me disk list. There what i will read? |
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| 12:23.13 | DoctorD90 | tomreyn, ? |
| 12:23.49 | tomreyn | the "label" you set there will (or may, if anything) show in a file manager |
| 12:24.24 | tomreyn | that's for the mounted file system |
| 12:25.10 | tomreyn | for the raw (unmounted) device you may get to see the "name" in a file manager |
| 12:26.11 | Furai | How do you examine under linux dump from visual studio? |
| 12:27.11 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: label is just a fs label you set using mk2fs/tune2fs |
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| 12:27.27 | DoctorD90 | ok, so i may setup the same for both |
| 12:27.39 | DoctorD90 | with "strnage" name so i can retreive certanly them |
| 12:27.48 | DoctorD90 | btw, only chars for sure... |
| 12:27.52 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: I just give self-explanatory values in there |
| 12:28.00 | DoctorD90 | better do not play with those value |
| 12:28.12 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, /boot will be myboot |
| 12:28.20 | DoctorD90 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.23 | DoctorD90 | or similar |
| 12:28.30 | DoctorD90 | home.....Myhome xD |
| 12:28.31 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: labels are, of course, optional |
| 12:28.47 | DoctorD90 | they will be overwritten by luks? |
| 12:29.11 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: luks is one level under |
| 12:29.23 | roylaprattep | Tonight is the night. Lawler vs. Condit. Prepare for the best match since few months. |
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| 12:29.29 | DoctorD90 | ok, so i can name them as i want.. |
| 12:29.41 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: if you name your partition with label it will be shown in /dev/disk/by-label/ |
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| 12:30.42 | DoctorD90 | oh, great! |
| 12:30.57 | DoctorD90 | name where i will see? |
| 12:31.27 | DoctorD90 | label in file manager and in /dev/disk/by-label, name isntead? |
| 12:31.50 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: http://pastebin.com/n1fcSMkV |
| 12:32.24 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, sorry, ptah-swap ??? |
| 12:32.36 | DoctorD90 | have you rename them or they are strange formatting? |
| 12:32.46 | DoctorD90 | something that i dont know? |
| 12:32.48 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: that's just LVM's group-partition naming |
| 12:32.58 | DoctorD90 | ah ok :D so i didnt know :D |
| 12:33.09 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: I always name LVM group same as hostname |
| 12:33.44 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: that way if you mount that drive on other host you won't get lvm group collision |
| 12:34.36 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: as you can see in the example there is 250M boot partiton, and 940G luks partiton |
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| 12:35.24 | DoctorD90 | yes |
| 12:35.27 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: then all that place is used by lvm and it's partitions |
| 12:36.01 | DoctorD90 | using gpt and bios(old pc) it wants create(it need to) also a bios_grub 1Mega partiition |
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| 12:36.13 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: this is a common structure that allowes you to have multiple partitions yet still having one password |
| 12:36.42 | DoctorD90 | uea...im using /boot / /home /swap :P without lvm, and with luks |
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| 12:37.02 | DoctorD90 | (yes, multiple pass) but in future i will learn to automitize with file key :P |
| 12:37.08 | Amun_Ra | you can have multiple luks partitions and one password still, but that's more tinkering |
| 12:37.26 | DoctorD90 | yea xD |
| 12:37.33 | tomreyn | Furai: are you referring to a windows .dmp file? |
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| 12:37.39 | Furai | tomreyn, yes |
| 12:37.42 | Amun_Ra | just google:// how to change luks password with key file |
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| 12:37.56 | tomreyn | look into google breakpad, it has code to do just that |
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| 12:38.17 | DoctorD90 | so if i use NAME, it will be shown in lsblk instead of sda? 0o |
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| 12:38.31 | tomreyn | Furai: you will also need the .pdb file originally generated when compiling the application, though |
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| 12:38.45 | Furai | I can get it. |
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| 12:38.56 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: not instead |
| 12:38.59 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, yes, i have them a lot of file :D i was at 99% to install system with debootstrap, but GRUB hasnt ended its own installation :P so now im using netinst .P |
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| 12:39.18 | Furai | tomreyn, what if dump comes from mac os x? Is there way to open that as well? |
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| 12:39.30 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: it's an extra field like UUID (/dev/disk/by-uuid/) |
| 12:39.37 | DoctorD90 | ah ok |
| 12:39.40 | DoctorD90 | better now |
| 12:40.05 | DoctorD90 | in lsblk i will see as normal, but it add a file like UUID. Label instead, is used in file manager :D |
| 12:40.06 | DoctorD90 | great |
| 12:40.06 | tomreyn | Furai: i don't know which format they use on OS X. but breakpad is meant to work cross platform, so chances are they have some solution for this, too. |
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| 12:40.41 | Furai | tomreyn, ok, thanks for help. :) |
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| 12:41.31 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: label is just a "weaker" uuid |
| 12:41.31 | tomreyn | Furai: if you're developing this software yourself and want to automatically gather information on application crashes then breakpad on the client (shipped witht he appication) and socorro on the server (developed by mozilla) is a good option. |
| 12:41.40 | tomreyn | all of this is open source |
| 12:41.58 | Furai | tomreyn, thanks for the tips. |
| 12:42.00 | Furai | :) |
| 12:42.05 | DoctorD90 | yea....im naming them as "boot" "system" and "home"...easy to remember, easy to manage, easy to understand :) |
| 12:42.26 | tomreyn | welcome |
| 12:42.28 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: same here :> |
| 12:42.47 | vladimirdvorak | hi guys ... quick consultation ... i have prepared in virtual box server configuration and I would like to "burn" it to USB stick in order to allow boot real (hardware) server ... do you please have any hint how to create such USB hard drive? |
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| 12:43.42 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, intead of getting UUID for ...no another quest before.....i have used live on a xp system. when i click on disk in file manager, it mounts in /media/a7as998f9s09as9.....that was "name" of disk? |
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| 12:43.53 | DoctorD90 | or label? ...name? |
| 12:44.05 | DoctorD90 | probably used by its own uuid |
| 12:44.16 | DoctorD90 | name=uuid ?? rigth? |
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| 12:44.51 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: uuid |
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| 12:45.53 | DoctorD90 | ah ok. easier. Ok, now. For luks. If i boot from live, and i want to mount from file manager, how may I choose to see "everywhere" "myhome" instead of uuid? i have to setup "name" in luks partioton step? |
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| 12:46.22 | DoctorD90 | because when i mount from file manger, in /media/ i see their uuid...long and boring... |
| 12:46.36 | DoctorD90 | hard to understand which of them are the correct one :P |
| 12:46.46 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: yes you can |
| 12:47.09 | DoctorD90 | ok, so i just leave them in name untouched :) great... |
| 12:47.24 | DoctorD90 | but file manager, when "auto mount" disk, where and what value use? |
| 12:47.38 | DoctorD90 | label to show me, and to mount in /media? |
| 12:47.41 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: auto mount usually uses uuid |
| 12:47.47 | DoctorD90 | name? label? uuid? |
| 12:48.05 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: mind label may not be unique |
| 12:48.15 | DoctorD90 | no, in my personal pc case, i have HP as "label" in file manager, and in HP in /media/HP |
| 12:48.25 | bazhang | !blkid |
| 12:48.38 | DoctorD90 | yes, infact sometimes i find out for data partiotions /media/DATA and /media/DATA_2 |
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| 12:49.03 | DoctorD90 | yes bazhang, but i would just "easy" understand how file manager works to understand :) |
| 12:49.30 | bazhang | use that to get them |
| 12:49.51 | DoctorD90 | o mount a disk, manually, i have to "mount /devsda /media/somewhat" ..i would understand how filemanager knowes what "somewhat" to use instead of UUID |
| 12:49.55 | bazhang | read the manpages for a deeper understanding |
| 12:49.58 | DoctorD90 | i get also from blkid? |
| 12:50.02 | cyris212 | I would like to install debian onto my macbook... do I need rEFInd at all if want to nuke OSX? |
| 12:50.56 | DoctorD90 | bazhang, the answwer i hoped to not go with xD |
| 12:51.00 | DoctorD90 | ahhaha |
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| 12:56.28 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: files in /dev/disk/by-* are just symlinks, you can use them instead of direct /dev/sda1 |
| 12:57.32 | DoctorD90 | uhm....im used to lsblk>/dev/sda :P less to type, faster.... |
| 12:58.15 | DoctorD90 | but to understand each of them what are, Im used to mount them in file manager, lsblk, understand partiotion, and use that /dev/sda |
| 12:58.35 | DoctorD90 | understanding from where file managers read that "label" i can use the command :P |
| 12:59.04 | DoctorD90 | oh! kernel to install: linux-image-amd64 or linux-image-2.16.0-4-amd64? |
| 12:59.10 | DoctorD90 | which is better? |
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| 12:59.25 | tomreyn | vladimirdvorak: look at "vboxmanage clonehd" to export the hdd(s) to raw format, then dd that to your usb. you may need to add or modify the boot loader as well as any environment specific configuration files of the operating system. |
| 12:59.50 | vladimirdvorak | tomreyn, many thanks for hint! |
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| 13:00.33 | tomreyn | welcome. check the online documentation of virtualbox, i think they have described this very use case and some pitfalls in some more detail |
| 13:00.49 | tomreyn | where "online" = website |
| 13:00.55 | DoctorD90 | tomreyn, Amun_Ra, ? linux-image-amd64 (meta package i think) or linux-image-"number"-amd64? |
| 13:01.49 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: linux-image-amd64 |
| 13:01.54 | DoctorD90 | ok thx! |
| 13:02.00 | Amun_Ra | that's just meta package |
| 13:02.05 | DoctorD90 | (why btw?) |
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| 13:02.18 | tomreyn | it should dpend on the latest numbered package |
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| 13:02.29 | Amun_Ra | for easy switching to next linux-image-version-amd64 |
| 13:02.30 | DoctorD90 | so it will be updated? :) |
| 13:02.30 | tomreyn | so you get always the latest kernel |
| 13:02.43 | DoctorD90 | oh ok :) im learning well linux thinking ) |
| 13:02.50 | DoctorD90 | and genric drivers too :D |
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| 13:03.12 | DoctorD90 | lunch time! many thx to you all :) |
| 13:03.33 | tomreyn | 1 thing to strike out on the new year proposition list already! |
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| 13:22.34 | DoctorD90 | come back :) |
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| 13:24.53 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, print server what does it give? 0o |
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| 13:35.12 | tomreyn | a print server primarily queues and channels printing jobs from multiple computers in a network to one or more printers. |
| 13:35.35 | tomreyn | it's a software used in offices usually. |
| 13:36.13 | tomreyn | ...where you have printers connected to ethernet and not directly to your computer via usb. |
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| 13:40.27 | DoctorD90 | tomreyn, so even if i havent to share printers, but easly to print on ntework-rpinter? |
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| 13:57.00 | no_gravity | Is there an url-decode command line tool? |
| 13:58.08 | no_gravity | it looks like this works. but i have no idea why: sed 's@+@ @g;s@%@\\x@g' file.txt | xargs -0 printf "%b" |
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| 14:06.14 | kingkong | hi. im on debian wheezy and installed clamav but always get WARNING: Local version: 0.98.7 Recommended version: 0.99 |
| 14:06.41 | polyphagia | wheezy is oldstable |
| 14:06.47 | polyphagia | jessie is stable |
| 14:06.47 | kingkong | i searched on google but couldnt fix. any help ? |
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| 14:08.15 | kingkong | i can not fix it without update to jessy? |
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| 14:09.34 | dvs | ,v clamav |
| 14:09.35 | judd | Package: clamav on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; squeeze-security-lts: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb6u2; wheezy: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; wheezy-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; jessie: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch: 0.99+dfsg-1; sid: 0.99+dfsg-1 |
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| 14:12.37 | kingkong | so that means my version is right. no need fix |
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| 14:20.10 | kingkong | thanks :) |
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| 14:40.01 | michauk | hi there, just upgraded from lenny to jessie (I'm a bit late I know). Everything fine (approx.) except policy-spf (python version). It started to reject any incoming email, python script exits with RC 1 |
| 14:40.56 | michauk | I know there is something with pyton 2 vs 3 and this script. I force the use of python3.4 in the master.cf but still, policy-spf doesn't do its job anymore. If I simulate it manually (from commad-line), it's OK. Getting crazy. Any idea? thank you |
| 14:41.09 | theweirdn8 | hey i'm not using linux right now |
| 14:41.13 | theweirdn8 | but i'm devving for it |
| 14:41.26 | theweirdn8 | can someone tell me if "/etc/mtab" is its own directory or attatched to teh home directory? |
| 14:42.24 | RachaelLee | its a file |
| 14:42.29 | RachaelLee | not a directory, |
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| 14:42.55 | RachaelLee | and its got nothing to do with home, unless your /home is its own partition, then it maybe listed in mtab |
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| 14:43.17 | theweirdn8 | so im trying to find where u will store ur mounted devices |
| 14:43.22 | theweirdn8 | like on windows u have my computer |
| 14:43.29 | theweirdn8 | what is the directory for that on here? |
| 14:43.41 | abrotman | theweirdn8: /etc/mtab or /proc/partitions .. it depends what you're looking for |
| 14:44.32 | RachaelLee | rather use /proc/mounts |
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| 14:44.37 | theweirdn8 | mounted devices u can read/write to |
| 14:44.45 | jlim | what is the backport url? |
| 14:44.58 | RachaelLee | cause mtab is created on boot, and if someone manually mounts something you wont see it in mtab |
| 14:45.07 | jlim | for jessie |
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| 14:45.28 | RachaelLee | theweirdn8, yeah, look in /proc/mounts if there is a rw then its read write |
| 14:46.58 | abrotman | jlim: backports.debian.org has instructions |
| 14:47.44 | theweirdn8 | what do u mean if there is a rw? |
| 14:47.50 | theweirdn8 | how would i know that? |
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| 14:48.29 | jlim | abrotman: they are gining the wrong url on that website |
| 14:48.44 | abrotman | jlim: such as? |
| 14:48.55 | jlim | abrotman: it http://redirhttp |
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| 14:49.08 | abrotman | jlim: and? |
| 14:49.38 | jlim | abrotman: and the website is giving the wrong info |
| 14:49.41 | abrotman | jlim: on the instructions page, I see http.debian.net |
| 14:49.46 | jlim | abrotman: i need the right info |
| 14:50.03 | abrotman | jlim: which instructions are you reading? what's the URL? |
| 14:50.20 | jlim | abrotman: try it your self. the url doesn't work |
| 14:50.24 | abrotman | I did .. |
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| 14:50.35 | abrotman | I'mreading the instructions on backports.debian.org now |
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| 14:50.42 | jlim | abrotman: the backport url they give is no good |
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| 14:51.08 | abrotman | jlim: which one?! |
| 14:51.15 | abrotman | which instructions are you reading? |
| 14:51.18 | jlim | abrotman: the website is fine. the info they provide is wrong |
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| 14:51.45 | abrotman | on which page? |
| 14:51.56 | jlim | abrotman: instuction page |
| 14:51.57 | abrotman | I just triedit, works fine |
| 14:52.03 | abrotman | jlim: which URL are you reading? |
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| 14:52.12 | abrotman | I just used the instructions for Jessie, and it worked 100% fine |
| 14:52.30 | jlim | abrotman: the correct backport url starts like this http://redirhttp |
| 14:52.37 | abrotman | no, they both work |
| 14:52.54 | jlim | abrotman: not hear it doesn't |
| 14:52.56 | abrotman | Again, I just added it to mine, ran apt-get update, works fine |
| 14:52.59 | jlim | here* |
| 14:53.04 | abrotman | jlim: then that's a problem on your system, not the remote system |
| 14:53.11 | abrotman | jlim: what did you add to your sources.list ? |
| 14:54.54 | theweirdn8 | so in theory this will work: http://pastebin.com/HJm6nWF8 |
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| 14:55.27 | abrotman | jlim: ? |
| 14:56.07 | abrotman | theweirdn8: that won't tell you what you have access to, be aware |
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| 14:57.13 | theweirdn8 | abrotman: what wil tell me what i have access to? |
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| 14:58.38 | abrotman | probably an open command, or maybe parse the output of stat .. There's probably a better channel for this OS development, maybe the one for the language you're using |
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| 14:59.18 | abrotman | theweirdn8: are you trying to do this in C or C++? |
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| 14:59.34 | abrotman | theweirdn8: if so, oyu might want to ask ##c |
| 15:00.35 | theweirdn8 | yes |
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| 15:02.44 | jsgrant | Is there a reason besides "it's old", that xscreensaver doesn't seem to ship with a service file? |
| 15:03.29 | jsgrant | looks like he can manually start it's daemon via xscreensaver-demo, but not directly via "systemctl --user enable xscreensaver". :^P |
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| 15:11.35 | xand | jsgrant: maybe because it runs per-X-session rather than systemwide? that's a guess |
| 15:12.14 | kingkong | i will loose user data, mail data, www data, confs or settings if i will update from wheezy to jessie or stretch? |
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| 15:13.38 | jsgrant | xand: Is a usersession and an xsession seperate things? I always assumed that x was started and ran in a user session; Hence why I assumed something like "systemctl --user enable xscreensaver" would work; That being said, I'm (clearly) not educated enough to do anything but speculate. |
| 15:14.12 | jsgrant | Atm, I plan on starting said process via my stumpwm config, but that's a very sloppy way of doing it -- it seems to me. :^P |
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| 15:29.46 | taylan | emacs-related question: I have aspell-de installed, but choosing a german dictionary in M-x ispell-change-dictionary tells me it can't open it (and indeed the supported dictionary names like "deutsch" and "german" don't exist in /usr/lib/aspell, only de, de_DE, etc.) |
| 15:30.49 | ompaul | taylan: apt-cache search spell de might give you more packages that would be useful |
| 15:31.12 | ompaul | if you do install something else you might want to restart emacs (or worse your session) |
| 15:32.13 | taylan | "session" meaning login, or how? (like some systemd/logind stuff? I'm very ignorant about that stuff.) |
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| 15:33.19 | taylan | hm, I tried installing aspell-de-alt but that didn't help either |
| 15:33.27 | ompaul | hunspell? |
| 15:33.37 | taylan | nope, emacs is using aspell |
| 15:33.38 | ompaul | session is login |
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| 15:35.47 | ompaul | taylan: are you running xemacs |
| 15:35.55 | ompaul | or uemacs |
| 15:35.58 | taylan | nope, GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) of 2015-11-17 on localhost |
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| 15:36.23 | taylan | tries emacs -q |
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| 15:36.58 | taylan | ooh, works |
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| 15:54.39 | taylan | now I'm getting "ispell-init-process: Error: Expected language "de" but got "en"." (the error seems to come from the aspell executable) unless I run emacs -q, but I have no idea where I might be breaking things :\ |
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| 16:00.26 | taylan | OK, it's because I set ispell-personal-dictionary to some file in my .emacs, and this file contains some meta-data saying it's an English dictionary. but I can't find a setting in Emacs that maps languages to personal dictionary file names, ugh. anyway, nothing Debian related |
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| 16:06.09 | Shadow_7 | I guess a few 3.19 kernel things have been backported to debians 3.16. |
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| 16:10.48 | Shadow_7 | aka I got a 2nd hp stream 11 and current jessie has everything just work. |
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| 16:11.24 | loquitoslack | hellou, My name in loquitoslack, I'm from Lima Peru, my speak inglish isn't very well but happy room channel |
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| 16:13.06 | rsync | hello |
| 16:13.31 | rsync | my brothers and friends |
| 16:14.00 | loquitoslack | ok thanks, i work in support debian to users desktop |
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| 16:17.55 | korst3n | Hello, there's a mysterious "-bash" process using 100% CPU. strace results in "read(0, "", 1) = 0". any ideas on how to find the cause and the fix? |
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| 16:24.45 | DoctorD90 | guys, icon on panel on top left of GNOME what they do? settings, something, a locker, and shutdown.....2 icon at the center, what they do? |
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| 16:26.09 | dontknow | DoctorD90, do you mean "activities"? |
| 16:26.40 | DoctorD90 | dontknow, in top rigth, sorry XD |
| 16:26.43 | DoctorD90 | gnome.classic |
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| 16:27.31 | dontknow | DoctorD90, they do lock, shutting down etc.. lol |
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| 16:27.54 | dontknow | at the center it is calendar |
| 16:28.09 | DoctorD90 | yes, but at center, ...no...wait...you have understand where im pointing... |
| 16:28.22 | DoctorD90 | clicking in the corner, to shutdown, i have 4 icons |
| 16:28.36 | DoctorD90 | settings, at left, shutdown at rigth |
| 16:28.45 | DoctorD90 | between them, i have 2 other icons |
| 16:28.51 | DoctorD90 | 1 circle, and 1 lock |
| 16:29.04 | DoctorD90 | i dont know what they do. |
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| 16:29.19 | DoctorD90 | clicking on the arrow in circle, it happends nothing |
| 16:29.42 | AvatarA | without a screenshot I cannot be sure, but maybe you're talking about the auto-rotate feature |
| 16:29.53 | dontknow | DoctorD90, it would be better sending screenshot |
| 16:30.16 | DoctorD90 | oh no...i have to restart ....once |
| 16:30.19 | DoctorD90 | one moment |
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| 16:33.38 | careta | does nayone knows what this means "profile has merged rule with conflicting x modifiers" |
| 16:33.42 | careta | from apparmor |
| 16:35.03 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, yea...you probably shoot at my point...btw all entire internet, and i cant find it...i have to start pc...just 1 second |
| 16:36.58 | AvatarA | sometimes it appears there even if your laptop does not have a gyroscope or whatever rotation sensor; for example in my case, that appeared because my hard disk has an accelerometer and gnome incorrectly detects that laptop supports rotation |
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| 16:38.40 | heap_ | hi |
| 16:38.57 | heap_ | im booting jessie but ... my booting log is flooded by |
| 16:39.41 | heap_ | [ 7.874473] systemd[1]: Time has been changed |
| 16:39.53 | heap_ | the system was running fine but now its not booting |
| 16:39.57 | heap_ | only those messages are there |
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| 16:40.11 | Shadow_7 | heap_: older comp with dead motherboard battery? |
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| 16:40.48 | Shadow_7 | otherwise probably ntp setup and non network or odd server that it connects to |
| 16:40.51 | heap_ | Shadow_7: i can boot other image without problems |
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| 16:41.07 | heap_ | but why this crap interupting system boot? |
| 16:41.15 | heap_ | systemd is sick |
| 16:41.24 | heap_ | clock interupt the system boot? |
| 16:41.44 | Shadow_7 | heap_: any firmware updates for your motherboard? |
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| 16:42.34 | heap_ | no |
| 16:42.35 | heap_ | nothing |
| 16:42.37 | heap_ | it was running |
| 16:42.39 | heap_ | i just did reboot |
| 16:42.43 | heap_ | and as i said |
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| 16:42.52 | heap_ | if i boot other image on another sd card it works |
| 16:43.29 | Shadow_7 | so card going flakey? |
| 16:44.22 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55848044/screenlinux.png |
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| 16:45.18 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: looks like setup, rotate, lock, and power |
| 16:45.44 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, rotate?? 0o..... rotate on a desktop? 0o |
| 16:46.06 | AvatarA | yep it's what I told you in the last message DoctorD90 if you got it (the accelerometer stuff) |
| 16:46.45 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: xrandr has rotate options if your monitor is in portrait, not landscape, an option. |
| 16:46.48 | DoctorD90 | .....lol on pc too nowaday? |
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| 16:46.50 | AvatarA | it's similar to what some phones offer, a rotation lock so you can rotate your phone horizontally but prevent it from rotating the image on the screen |
| 16:47.15 | heap_ | Shadow_7: i dont know ;-( |
| 16:47.31 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, Shadow_7 and how i may use on a pc? 0o old one |
| 16:47.34 | DoctorD90 | without sensor |
| 16:47.48 | Shadow_7 | heap_: I tend to dd if=/dev/zero and device and cmp /dev/zero /dev/... to verify |
| 16:47.56 | DoctorD90 | because if i click on it, it appears a lock |
| 16:48.10 | Shadow_7 | You'd be amazed how many fail before running out of size of media |
| 16:48.28 | heap_ | Shadow_7: huh? |
| 16:48.31 | heap_ | dd if of? |
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| 16:49.01 | Shadow_7 | of == the partition in question (assuming nothing on it you want to keep) |
| 16:49.08 | AvatarA | I'll repeat one of my messages, maybe you restarted and didn't get it DoctorD90: sometimes it appears there even if your laptop does not have a gyroscope or whatever rotation sensor; for example in my case, that appeared because my hard disk has an accelerometer and gnome incorrectly detects that laptop supports rotation |
| 16:49.15 | AvatarA | so it may be something similar in your case |
| 16:49.15 | heap_ | Shadow_7: its fucked up |
| 16:49.19 | heap_ | that install worked |
| 16:49.21 | heap_ | i just did reboot |
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| 16:49.46 | heap_ | now its loading weird drivers during boot |
| 16:49.47 | Shadow_7 | heap_: I've had cards fail in less than a day... several... And I don't have "that" many cards. |
| 16:49.58 | heap_ | and got suck [ 211.459537] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain |
| 16:50.01 | heap_ | [ 214.611538] cfg80211: Exceeded CRDA call max attempts. Not calling CRDA |
| 16:50.08 | DoctorD90 | ah! AvatarA sorry! i didnt know of that :) |
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| 16:50.11 | AvatarA | it may be considered a gnome bug DoctorD90, seems their detection mechanism is not polished enough |
| 16:50.33 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, so, better to lock up... |
| 16:50.38 | DoctorD90 | and lock? just lock screen? |
| 16:50.43 | DoctorD90 | or hibernate? |
| 16:51.14 | AvatarA | lock screen as far as I can remember (don't have gnome installed now) |
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| 16:51.19 | Shadow_7 | class 4 cards especially |
| 16:51.32 | DoctorD90 | why i dont press? because i have crypted all partitions, and i read about to not hibernate system with partiotion encrypted :P |
| 16:51.47 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, ah ok...so all go easY :D |
| 16:51.56 | heap_ | Shadow_7: it started with network, network adapter got disconnected |
| 16:51.58 | heap_ | multiple times |
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| 16:52.01 | heap_ | then i did reboot |
| 16:52.03 | heap_ | and now .. |
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| 16:52.34 | Shadow_7 | heap_: in general... wierdness == hardware fail |
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| 16:54.03 | DoctorD90 | thx AvatarA Shadow_7 :) |
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| 16:54.53 | AvatarA | np, and extra tip, if you keep ALT key pressed when you display that menu, power icon will turn to a pausa icon and you can suspend=standby |
| 16:55.02 | heap_ | Shadow_7: http://pastie.org/10665717 |
| 16:55.04 | AvatarA | pause* icon |
| 16:55.09 | heap_ | Shadow_7: is still hanging here |
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| 16:58.03 | Shadow_7 | heap_: service --status smartd |
| 16:58.16 | heap_ | http://pastie.org/10665725 |
| 16:58.22 | heap_ | Shadow_7: i cant get shell |
| 16:58.23 | Shadow_7 | heap_: the 80211 thing is likely wifi related |
| 16:58.32 | heap_ | there is no wifi device |
| 16:58.40 | Shadow_7 | which it complains about |
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| 16:58.53 | Shadow_7 | smartd from what I recall is hard drive monitoring stuff |
| 16:59.15 | Shadow_7 | don't have it installed / used on my system(s) |
| 16:59.17 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, really?? :D i tri! |
| 16:59.19 | DoctorD90 | try* |
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| 16:59.42 | heap_ | i think its fucked up |
| 16:59.56 | DoctorD90 | AvatarA, great xD ...but standby is as i close screen? |
| 17:00.02 | DoctorD90 | (laptop) |
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| 17:00.56 | Shadow_7 | heap_: probably need to fsck the partition |
| 17:01.21 | heap_ | i did |
| 17:01.22 | heap_ | ;;/ |
| 17:01.24 | Shadow_7 | heap_: which you could do with a raspberry pi since filesystems are not cpu tied |
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| 17:01.49 | heap_ | i did fsck |
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| 17:02.27 | DoctorD90 | yea D it is as if i'd close screen :D |
| 17:02.29 | DoctorD90 | great! |
| 17:02.31 | Shadow_7 | heap_: a fresh install cures most ails |
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| 17:02.42 | heap_ | yes but u lose all the stuff |
| 17:02.46 | heap_ | fuck those fresh installs |
| 17:02.56 | Shadow_7 | fresh install on other media |
| 17:03.05 | heap_ | i cant believe how this arm shit is that unstable |
| 17:03.05 | Shadow_7 | and cp what you need from old thing |
| 17:03.17 | heap_ | im getting headache |
| 17:03.21 | Shadow_7 | most stuff is unstable if you give it too little power |
| 17:03.45 | Shadow_7 | or buy faulty media that runs hotter than it should |
| 17:04.35 | Shadow_7 | heat and noise is a good indicator of storage quality. probably why most of mine is external |
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| 17:06.44 | heap_ | Shadow_7: fsck says no problems. |
| 17:06.55 | heap_ | Shadow_7: i did dd if=/sdcard of=/dev/null |
| 17:07.05 | heap_ | if there is no error while reading whole card... then i dont knwo |
| 17:08.02 | Shadow_7 | heap_: how about of=file.img... then cmp file.imp /dev/... |
| 17:08.45 | Shadow_7 | aka if it doesn't match itself on a 2nd pass... probably faulty media |
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| 17:10.10 | heap_ | i cant believe its card error |
| 17:10.10 | heap_ | ;/ |
| 17:10.27 | Shadow_7 | verified card error? |
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| 17:10.43 | heap_ | dd does it? |
| 17:10.47 | heap_ | if u cant dd whole image |
| 17:10.55 | heap_ | i run dd without noerror check |
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| 17:11.09 | Shadow_7 | or sandisk fanboy? i've had them fail. they have limited writes, sometimes exceeded before they leave the factory |
| 17:11.30 | heap_ | ;/ |
| 17:11.44 | Shadow_7 | probably why they're $10 |
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| 17:13.09 | Shadow_7 | As I run my new-ish hp stream 11 from a usb 3 stick. |
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| 17:17.41 | heap_ | i dont know |
| 17:17.56 | heap_ | why usb stick? |
| 17:18.18 | Shadow_7 | I had a class 4 SDHC that literally failed in < 4 hours... installed debian, watched about 2 hours of youtube and fail |
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| 17:18.49 | heap_ | what a shit they sell |
| 17:18.52 | Shadow_7 | it's a usb3 high speed one. 32GB where the internal MMC is 32GB |
| 17:19.10 | Shadow_7 | stick so I could do the install elsewhere and boot it there |
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| 17:20.14 | Shadow_7 | I got the display model and it looks like someone used it previously and left a lot of pictures behind. Curious what's in all the pictures. |
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| 17:20.38 | Shadow_7 | can't find out if I whipe the internal storage |
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| 17:21.31 | Shadow_7 | heap_: I tend to buy cards in pairs... so if one fails, I don't have to go back to the store for another |
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| 17:24.20 | Shadow_7 | plus they're cheap, I can get two and still come out cheaper than filling up the gas tank |
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| 17:45.15 | rueda | hello I have issues |
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| 17:46.02 | rueda | I want to say after grub the message that says loading initial image takes too long to move on about 35 seconds or more where it used to take only less then 10 seconds, does anyone here knows why? |
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| 17:50.55 | AvatarA | without seeing a log nobody can know why |
| 17:51.06 | rueda | AvatarA: hi |
| 17:51.11 | rueda | AvatarA: how do I obtain taht log |
| 17:51.43 | heap_ | Shadow_7: ;/ |
| 17:51.49 | AvatarA | sudo journalctl > log |
| 17:51.57 | AvatarA | then paste it on pastebin |
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| 17:53.03 | rueda | AvatarA: |
| 17:53.08 | rueda | I got message saying Length of code is not allowed to exceed 150kB |
| 17:53.10 | rueda | help |
| 17:53.44 | rueda | I'll upload the file somewhere |
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| 17:55.43 | rueda | AvatarA: here http://misdibujos.xyz/uploads/log |
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| 17:59.39 | dontknow | anyone use midori? |
| 17:59.45 | DoctorD90 | yes |
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| 17:59.55 | DoctorD90 | oh..sorry..i have wrong |
| 18:00.03 | dontknow | DoctorD90, do you have bad font rendering on midori |
| 18:00.10 | AvatarA | doesn't look like anything is delaying your boot rueda |
| 18:00.59 | DoctorD90 | dontknow, im used to iceweasol :P |
| 18:01.19 | dontknow | ok |
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| 18:01.55 | rueda | AvatarA: hi |
| 18:02.00 | Shadow_7 | I used midori on the raspberry pi |
| 18:02.01 | dontknow | will debian strech get budgie desktop. i liked it |
| 18:02.03 | rueda | AvatarA: but is slower then last month |
| 18:02.05 | heap_ | whats the best way to install debian on arm .. .can i install whole system on external disk or do i need to use sd carD? |
| 18:02.08 | heap_ | i have cubox-i |
| 18:02.20 | dontknow | Shadow_7, is font rendering bad? |
| 18:02.41 | Shadow_7 | no worse than any other browser |
| 18:03.03 | dontknow | hmm |
| 18:03.07 | Shadow_7 | dontknow: apt-get install fontconfig fontconfig-config msttcorefonts xfonts-jmk |
| 18:03.14 | AvatarA | rueda, after grub says it's loading kernel, it takes ~35 seconds until your desktop loads? |
| 18:03.32 | Shadow_7 | dontknow: and dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config ... to enable bitmap fonts |
| 18:03.51 | rueda | AvatarA: no it takes more like a minue |
| 18:03.55 | dontknow | Shadow_7, font rendering looks good in iceweasel but bad in midori |
| 18:04.07 | rueda | AvatarA: but the moving betweem segments is slower |
| 18:04.31 | rueda | AvatarA: for example it says loading the initial staff and sits there for 35 seconds before it moves to the black screen |
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| 18:04.42 | Shadow_7 | dontknow: probably anti-alias handling |
| 18:04.42 | rueda | AvatarA: before it will say that and move on after 3 seconds |
| 18:05.01 | Shadow_7 | most fonts look bad if you screen cap and gimp convert to B&W |
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| 18:05.50 | Shadow_7 | aka I like bitmap fonts... they look identical on screen and B&W |
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| 18:07.33 | AvatarA | so 35 seconds before grub loads the kernel, that doesn't get written to that log, don't know what the problem might be |
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| 18:08.20 | Shadow_7 | AvatarA: if the linux line with root= doesn't match the right device/label/uuid and /etc/fstab doesn't, then fail |
| 18:08.51 | Shadow_7 | AvatarA: /dev/ names can change between boots if you use external storage... so best to use labels or UUIDs |
| 18:09.44 | AvatarA | with a default install he should have UUIDs in his fstab though |
| 18:09.53 | Shadow_7 | also changes if you mother board supports (and you used) both PATA and SATA drives |
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| 18:10.37 | Shadow_7 | AvatarA: depends on how it is installed |
| 18:10.59 | Shadow_7 | I tend towards debootstrap style and no /etc/fstab exists by default |
| 18:11.05 | AvatarA | rueda, paste your /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 18:11.18 | rueda | AvatarA: right on |
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| 18:12.51 | rueda | AvatarA: here http://paste.debian.net/359240/ |
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| 18:12.55 | heap_ | Shadow_7: i run dd if=card of=img, then cmp img /dev/card |
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| 18:13.05 | heap_ | Shadow_7: i got so many lines as number 0 number |
| 18:13.05 | heap_ | etc |
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| 18:14.52 | Shadow_7 | heap_: cmp should only output when the image differs |
| 18:14.52 | heap_ | Shadow_7: does it mean card is corrupteD? |
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| 18:15.19 | Shadow_7 | heap_: which should be when one ends up bigger than the other |
| 18:15.53 | Shadow_7 | aka end of card... any output beyond that is likely corruption |
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| 18:16.16 | Shadow_7 | assuming card was NOT live... and output location not the card being read from |
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| 18:17.22 | AvatarA | I don't know why you have this in your kernel line: initrd=/install/initrd.gz |
| 18:17.30 | AvatarA | maybe Shadow_7 knows something about it |
| 18:17.39 | heap_ | Shadow_7: not live |
| 18:17.44 | heap_ | Shadow_7: so card is dead then ;/ |
| 18:17.45 | heap_ | fuck |
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| 18:18.04 | Shadow_7 | initrd is your kernel + modules so you can have things like / filesystem as module and not be SOL |
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| 18:18.28 | Shadow_7 | heap_: probability high |
| 18:18.32 | heap_ | ;-((( |
| 18:18.46 | AvatarA | yeah but why in /install ? |
| 18:18.54 | Shadow_7 | heap_: but they fail read-only in most cases, so you can recover some (untrusted) data from it |
| 18:18.58 | AvatarA | initrd line is: initrd/boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 18:19.58 | AvatarA | rueda, do you have /install directory in your root filesystem? |
| 18:21.39 | rueda | AvatarA: dont know hah |
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| 18:22.24 | AvatarA | go into a terminal and type: ls / |
| 18:22.29 | rueda | AvatarA: hi no I don't |
| 18:22.30 | AvatarA | see if install shows up in there |
| 18:22.42 | rueda | AvatarA: I just checked nope |
| 18:22.51 | AvatarA | well I have no idea how you got that in the grub.cfg |
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| 18:23.18 | AvatarA | but to test things out you could bring up the grub menu at boot and edit that first grub entry |
| 18:23.40 | AvatarA | and from linux/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=5eeac31e-c105-4bbb-9ab8-1b10027bf55a ro initrd=/install/initrd.gz quiet |
| 18:23.52 | AvatarA | remove initrd=/install/initrd.gz |
| 18:24.01 | AvatarA | and see if it gets rid of the delay |
| 18:24.18 | rueda | right on brb |
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| 18:31.16 | rueda | AvatarA: hi! nope still lags |
| 18:31.22 | rueda | I removed the line really |
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| 18:31.39 | rueda | AvatarA: do you think I had to completely shut off pc for changes to take effect |
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| 18:32.33 | AvatarA | don't remove the line, just that part with /install |
| 18:32.48 | AvatarA | linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=5eeac31e-c105-4bbb-9ab8-1b10027bf55a ro quiet |
| 18:33.05 | AvatarA | this is how it should look like after you edit it in grub |
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| 18:33.29 | AvatarA | changes are not permanent, grub will just use that for current boot only |
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| 18:34.25 | rueda | AvatarA: I did removed that line from the file before I revotted 8D |
| 18:34.43 | AvatarA | and before you do that, also type in a terminal "sudo blkid" and see that it matches "5eeac31e-c105-4bbb-9ab8-1b10027bf55a" for your root partition |
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| 18:37.23 | rueda | AvatarA: they match |
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| 18:45.03 | AvatarA | I get the feeling you did something wrong, especially if you edited grub.cfg in a file editor instead of editing the boot entry in grub |
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| 18:47.03 | rueda | AvatarA: isn't it the same thing? |
| 18:47.12 | rueda | AvatarA: I can't save the file from grub anyway |
| 18:47.45 | AvatarA | not quite |
| 18:47.58 | AvatarA | you may have edited some other entry instead of the first, default grub entry |
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| 18:49.47 | rueda | AvatarA: I was careful I promess |
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| 18:51.06 | Juppiter | hello all. does anyone know a good way to replace or get the weather extension in debian jessie to work? |
| 18:52.03 | Juppiter | i changed the city using dconf but this doesn't work (in the gui it isn't possible to change it) |
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| 18:54.23 | rueda | Juppiter: happy new year |
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| 18:54.47 | fishbulb | hi |
| 18:54.49 | Juppiter | thank you, you too |
| 18:54.57 | fishbulb | there's some weird shut down errors happening |
| 18:55.07 | fishbulb | they scroll away too fast to see what they are |
| 18:55.09 | rueda | I like that weather extension too but I don't use it nor have experience with it |
| 18:55.29 | fishbulb | the stock weather extension with jessie doesn't work, you have to upgrade it from the gnome page |
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| 18:57.06 | Juppiter | ah, using github? |
| 18:57.45 | fishbulb | are you having problems with the standard weather extension? |
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| 18:58.05 | fishbulb | it's out of date and you go to the gnome extensions page, and upgrade it |
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| 18:58.28 | fishbulb | well I did that, and it worked |
| 18:59.08 | AvatarA | Juppiter, last time I used it, it needed the API key from the weather provider's website |
| 18:59.13 | Juppiter | okay. did you use the zip-package from github? |
| 19:00.15 | AvatarA | because the site that the plugin used to get the data changed their policy |
| 19:00.16 | Juppiter | yes, i have this key, it is just not possible to change the city using the gui interface. therefore i tried it using dconf, but it didn't work. i'll try a a update :-/ |
| 19:00.28 | Juppiter | yes |
| 19:00.48 | Juppiter | ./configure: line 4556: GLIB_GSETTINGS: command not found |
| 19:00.51 | fishbulb | yeah, the stock jessie extension doesn't work, go to gnome |
| 19:00.56 | fishbulb | extensions |
| 19:01.03 | fishbulb | the website. just upgrade it from there |
| 19:01.16 | fishbulb | I had to uninstall it, then install it again. |
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| 19:01.34 | fishbulb | the newer version has a few more settings and options |
| 19:01.47 | Juppiter | sounds really good. :-) thanks! |
| 19:02.01 | fishbulb | I was stuck trying to make the stock one work for ages, and it just wouldn't |
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| 19:02.04 | heap_ | how do you guys stress your hdd? as a test when you buy new drive |
| 19:02.14 | smhar | greetings |
| 19:03.05 | Juppiter | yes, fishbulb :-/ |
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| 19:04.55 | heap_ | any idea? |
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| 19:05.34 | Juppiter | i used a windows vm to make such a test with my ssd |
| 19:05.51 | Juppiter | there are a lot of programs out there, but on linux idk |
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| 19:13.19 | Juppiter | thx!, have to restart ... |
| 19:14.22 | Tom012 | Is there a Utility, that show the cpu-temp of an Core-i3? |
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| 19:16.57 | zykotick9 | Tom012: does "sensors" from the lm-sensors package not work with an i3? |
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| 19:17.46 | iresf | how to install lib32bz2-1.0 on debian jessie i ran apt-get install lib32bz2-1.0 but it deos not isntall it please help me |
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| 19:18.18 | head8debian | iresf: What is the output when you try to install it? |
| 19:18.49 | AvatarA | there is no lib32 package |
| 19:19.00 | iresf | head8debian: Package lib32bz2-1.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:19.01 | iresf | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 19:19.01 | iresf | is only available from another source |
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| 19:22.24 | iresf | head8debian : i need to lib32bz2-1.0 to run android-studio |
| 19:22.37 | jlim | how do i set up non-free repo? |
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| 19:23.05 | AvatarA | only squeeze and wheezy has that package iresf |
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| 19:23.22 | rapha | Hi! |
| 19:23.42 | zykotick9 | dpkg: tell AvatarA about non-free sources |
| 19:23.49 | iresf | AvatarA : is there alternative for jessei ? |
| 19:23.52 | rapha | I know that I shouldn't, but I want to. So if I'm going to, what would be the "best" way of upgrading to Mesa >= 10.4 in Jessie? |
| 19:23.55 | zykotick9 | AvatarA: sorry. |
| 19:24.02 | zykotick9 | dpkg: tell jlim about non-free sources |
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| 19:27.13 | iresf | gradle does not work correctly without lib32bz2-1.0 |
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| 19:30.33 | iresf | why android-studio does not work on debian jessie correctly i have a problem when i installed debian |
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| 19:31.52 | iresf | debian is the best for me and i only one problem in debian and that is running android-studio and gradle on it |
| 19:32.49 | rapha | Hmm, http://www.a3nm.net/blog/debian_mesa.html looks good. |
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| 19:36.15 | iresf | anyone know anything about android-studio on debian 8 ? |
| 19:36.27 | morf | yeah |
| 19:36.37 | morf | some stranger keep asking about it |
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| 19:41.04 | morf | iresf: what's the problem exactly? |
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| 19:43.05 | jhutchins | It's a known issue, and somebody posted a work around, so it's somewhere on Google. |
| 19:43.39 | iresf | morf : i will get you my problem with pastebin line |
| 19:43.42 | iresf | link* |
| 19:43.46 | jhutchins | Something about gradle not completing tasks. |
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| 19:47.36 | iresf | morf : on Gradle Console i saw this errors : http://pastebin.com/d5KsVAbs |
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| 19:51.05 | iresf | it solved |
| 19:51.16 | iresf | i changed permission and then solved |
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| 19:52.02 | iresf | i am happy android-studio on debian is very very fast than ubuntu and windows and macintash |
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| 19:54.11 | cisc | can `apt-get autoremove` end up in a bad result, as you can have a dependency that it thinks nothing depends on it and vice versa, but it's still used by a program? |
| 19:54.43 | RichiH | cisc: not if you installed everything via packages |
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| 19:57.18 | cisc | RichiH: so how does it calculate the dependencies and know, like for instance, Firefox depends on nothing, nothing depends on it |
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| 19:57.52 | cisc | or a program that was installed that's being used with no dependencies |
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| 20:02.25 | Tom012 | lm-sensors works. Is there a Gnome-App for it available? |
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| 20:12.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | cisc, if you do "apt-cache show packagename" for any package that you have installed, you see a line "Depends:" that contains the dependencies of that package |
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| 20:13.39 | cisc | CutMeOwnThroat: ok thanks |
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| 20:14.35 | cisc | CutMeOwnThroat: but in theory one could be using a program that depends on nothing and one which has no dependencies, so if you ran `apt-get autoremove` how would aptitude know to not delete that package? |
| 20:14.52 | polyphagia | autoremove only applies when the package wasn't installed by you |
| 20:15.01 | polyphagia | you can remove the autoremove flag from a package by manually running apt-get install on it |
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| 20:15.44 | cisc | i see, thanks |
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| 20:20.00 | r3vlibre | Hi all, I am a regular user, not DD. I recently filed a comment to a bug, and meanwhile I wrote a solution for it. What's the process to submit a patch ? |
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| 20:22.01 | Shadow_7 | !patch |
| 20:22.01 | dpkg | somebody said patch was just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
| 20:22.22 | Shadow_7 | !submit |
| 20:22.27 | r3vlibre | :-) |
| 20:22.40 | Shadow_7 | Can't say I didn't try |
| 20:22.46 | r3vlibre | "submit" seems silent. |
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| 20:23.26 | Shadow_7 | r3vlibre: bugreport probably has features to submit. with things like apt-listbugs and such |
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| 20:23.47 | Shadow_7 | not a DD either, but have coded in a past life |
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| 20:25.30 | r3vlibre | Shadow_7: Thank you. However, I didn't find anything querying the web. That's why I came here... |
| 20:26.16 | r3vlibre | I wonder if there is a "right way to do it". Like send a mail to the BTSwith the proposal ? Or, directly to the dev ? |
| 20:26.27 | Shadow_7 | I've seen patches submitted directly to the bugreport. But I don't get out much |
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| 20:26.56 | Shadow_7 | r3vlibre: apt-cache show might list a contact for the maintainer |
| 20:27.30 | r3vlibre | I saw the maintainer on the BTS, so that's one step done. Maybe, I just mail him ? |
| 20:28.05 | Shadow_7 | !mentor |
| 20:28.06 | dpkg | hmm... mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 20:28.47 | r3vlibre | !nmg |
| 20:28.48 | dpkg | The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
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| 20:28.58 | r3vlibre | I got the trick :D |
| 20:29.01 | Shadow_7 | r3vlibre: if you submit to the actualy mainstream project it'll make it downstream eventually |
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| 20:30.00 | Shadow_7 | r3vlibre: the #debian-next on the oftc irc network might be more UP on the patch submission process... |
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| 20:30.12 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 20:30.28 | r3vlibre | What is #debian-next ? Preparing the next release ? |
| 20:30.36 | marioxcc | What instruction sets does the Debian 8 for AMD64 require?. |
| 20:30.46 | Shadow_7 | r3vlibre: the official-ish channel for testing/unstable |
| 20:31.14 | marioxcc | To which extent will Debian take advantage of instruction sets like SSE 4.2 and AVX when they are present?. |
| 20:31.17 | r3vlibre | Shadow_7: Great ! Thanks, I'll try there... Need to find about oftc now ;) |
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| 20:31.49 | Shadow_7 | r3vlibre: irc.oftc.net or something |
| 20:31.52 | Shadow_7 | !oftc |
| 20:31.52 | dpkg | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
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| 20:33.06 | r3vlibre | Shadow_7: "Décidément" (I can't translate ;), this bot has anwser for (almost) every* |
| 20:33.16 | r3vlibre | *thing I eman |
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| 20:34.09 | Shadow_7 | probably written by the older devs... aka offsite brain RAM |
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| 20:36.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | marioxcc, that's a very gentooy question.. does it matter for ls? |
| 20:36.29 | Cork | is it possible to install debian on a system with 60mb of ram? |
| 20:36.40 | de-facto | is there an api to apt for getting the number of upgradeable packages from scripts (e.g. bash)? |
| 20:36.44 | Cork | doesn't look like the installer an handel it |
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| 20:38.15 | Shadow_7 | Cork: probably. As long as you have like 300MB of storage for the OS part |
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| 20:38.39 | Cork | Shadow_7: how do i solve that with the installer? |
| 20:38.44 | Cork | it goes black after probing |
| 20:39.04 | Cork | (text mode) |
| 20:39.29 | Shadow_7 | I tend to do debootstrap installs |
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| 20:40.03 | Shadow_7 | The base install tends to be 200MB - 300MB... but that's without gui stuffs |
| 20:40.42 | Cork | ah interesting |
| 20:41.03 | Cork | ya, i have 6gb of diskspace |
| 20:41.24 | Cork | and ya, i only want console |
| 20:41.25 | r3vlibre | Shadow_7, Cork: 60Mb RAM is it still supported ? I am not sure... |
| 20:41.29 | Shadow_7 | My booted system at around 42MB usage. But as much as 100MB depending on what's installed |
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| 20:41.57 | Cork | r3vlibre: according to the docs 128 is min |
| 20:41.59 | Shadow_7 | The systemd bloat probably makes it difficult at best |
| 20:42.08 | Cork | hmm |
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| 20:42.17 | Cork | ya |
| 20:42.18 | Shadow_7 | Cork: probably better off on puppy or other options |
| 20:42.33 | Cork | i need a distro that has smokeping though |
| 20:42.51 | galex-713 | Hi, transmission doesnât work: download stays at 0 and â0 peersâ, even when the client âreceiced a list of 80 peersâ |
| 20:43.16 | Cork | galex-713: most likely router or firewall blocking inbound connections |
| 20:43.19 | Shadow_7 | DSL ... damn small linux... or other options |
| 20:43.50 | Shadow_7 | Or buy new stuff... just got an hp stream 11 for $160-ish yesterday |
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| 20:44.32 | Cork | Shadow_7: ya, i have them, just not so i can use them right now :) |
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| 20:44.47 | Cork | and this old computer is standing around so... :) |
| 20:45.07 | Cork | dsl looks like an interesting option, will try that |
| 20:45.07 | Cork | thx |
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| 20:45.09 | r3vlibre | I think there are also "lighter Debian derivatives"... like DSL (damn small Linux) |
| 20:45.22 | Shadow_7 | the old stuff is cheap... but the power usage of the new stuff... it pays for itself if you use it for any duration |
| 20:46.17 | Cork | Shadow_7: ya, this isn't for a long running gig |
| 20:46.30 | Cork | i want to graph the internet connection for a few days |
| 20:46.36 | Cork | that's it |
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| 20:50.09 | r3vlibre | Sorry, I was split between channels I repeated sthg already said. As for the 128Mb, I think it's quite some time already. Before systemd ;) |
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| 20:52.49 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... about 430MB atm watching youtube on the new hp stream |
| 20:53.41 | Shadow_7 | almost 1G on the old hp stream... gaming |
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| 21:13.26 | BinBasher | why isn't gnash available through aptitude anymore? |
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| 21:14.37 | Shadow_7 | ,v browser-plugin-gnash |
| 21:14.38 | judd | Package: browser-plugin-gnash on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.8-5+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 0.8.8-5+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.10-5~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.11~git20120629-1+deb7u1; jessie-backports: 0.8.11~git20150419-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.8.11~git20150419-3+b3; stretch: 0.8.11~git20150419-3+b3 |
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| 21:15.21 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... backports, but not jessie? |
| 21:16.02 | BinBasher | nope, weird |
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| 21:18.04 | Shadow_7 | pretty much only need it for hulu these days |
| 21:18.24 | Shadow_7 | and even there have to use adobe's + libhal |
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| 21:29.45 | Ephexeve | I am trying to get gitweb to work with nginx, however I am getting this error ->https://bpaste.net/show/ee4197842570 |
| 21:29.47 | Ephexeve | any idea? |
| 21:29.56 | de-facto | is there an direct interface to get the number of upgrades from apt? something like LANG=C apt-get upgrade -s |grep -P '^\d+ upgraded'|cut -d" " -f1 but more elegant? |
| 21:31.33 | Shadow_7 | de-facto: apt-get -d dist-upgrade |
| 21:31.41 | Shadow_7 | where -d is download only |
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| 21:34.58 | de-facto | huh? that does not give me a number as answer...? |
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| 21:35.30 | awal1 | radio "open /dev/radio0: No such file or directory" , any idea on how to solve this issue? http://www.justskins.com/forums/fm-radio-tuner-error-115107.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xawtv/+bug/398120 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=296858 |
| 21:35.31 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/296858 in radio (closed): «radio fails to find radio device»; severity: normal; opened: 2005-02-25; last modified: 2005-02-28. |
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| 21:35.51 | de-facto | Shadow_7 i want to use that in a script for getting the number of upgradeable packages |
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| 21:38.03 | tharkun | Ephexeve: I'm not that fluent with nginx configurations but you can go to their website they do have a lot of examples and very nice documentation that can walk you through |
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| 21:40.10 | tharkun | And BTW using google as your dns provider is not a good idea. |
| 21:40.49 | de-facto | Ephexeve i think you need location for fastcgi but there is also #nginx channel on freenode |
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| 21:41.05 | Ephexeve | Yeah, I think I figure it out, Thanks! |
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| 21:44.51 | de-facto | Ephexeve http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_fastcgi_module.html#fastcgi_pass |
| 21:45.01 | awal1 | can anyone please check if he have radio location in /dev ? |
| 21:45.06 | Ephexeve | de-facto: Yeah, that's what I saw, nice, thanks! |
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| 21:50.41 | Waxhead | Hi, anyone here responsible for bits debian org? If so may I speak with someone in private? |
| 21:50.49 | shovel_boss | did debian just got literally killed? |
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| 21:54.00 | mniip | does debian offer a 4.x+ kernel? |
| 21:54.06 | r3vlibre | Hi Waxhead, you have the info page there, there is a mailing-list address mentioned there, I guess you can ask for private info there: https://bits.debian.org/pages/about.html |
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| 21:54.25 | mniip | and/or is it possible to install it on an otherwise "stable" distro |
| 21:54.57 | Waxhead | r3vlibre: yeah I know , but it would be much easier to talk with someone in private here if that is possible. |
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| 21:55.04 | shovel_boss | Ian Ashley Murdock |
| 21:55.05 | shovel_boss | rip |
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| 21:56.04 | mtn | mniip: yes |
| 21:56.14 | mniip | I would like to know more |
| 21:56.45 | mtn | !tell mniip about debian-backports |
| 21:57.47 | r3vlibre | Waxhead: Mweel, then I don't know myself :/ |
| 21:57.59 | r3vlibre | Mwell* |
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| 21:58.24 | Waxhead | r3vlibre: Mkay :) |
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| 22:01.47 | sorin-mihai | i'm trying to disable all messages from dmesg showing up on boot. I tried with /etc/sysctl.d/20-quiet-printk.conf set to 0 0 0 0 and loglevel=0 rd.udev.log-priority=0 quiet on the kernel command line. nothing actually works, I get some errors from drm/i915 and some udev related to a usb disk. any idea? |
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| 22:10.00 | jhutchins | sorin-mihai: Pay attention to what the messages say and address them. |
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| 22:10.20 | jhutchins | sorin-mihai: You can also force a "quiet" boot by configuring grub. |
| 22:10.32 | sorin-mihai | jhutchins, drm:gen8_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* The master control interrupt lied (SDE)! |
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| 22:10.54 | sorin-mihai | quiet and printk set to lower also |
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| 22:15.08 | jhutchins | sorin-mihai: Those messages exist for a reason. |
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| 22:17.12 | den-3local-den | hi. i am try to figure out bash and write some simply script`s. one of them install in vagrant zsh. all installed done but have question about post install. by step chsh -s /bin/zsh; shell ask me a password. how can use chsh -s /bin/zsh without input password? |
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| 22:19.04 | sorin-mihai | jhutchins, yeah, i get that, but I don't want 200 lines of the same error while I boot. quiet wouldn't allow me to see any other messages, and that error is worse than the bug itself. |
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| 22:27.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, kernels |
| 22:27.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.4.0-rc6-686-pae (4.4~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.3-2); stretch: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.3-2); jessie-backports: 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.3.3-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.73-2+deb7u1) |
| 22:28.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | sorin-mihai, guess you can get a newer kernel from backports |
| 22:28.36 | Axton | is there a way to escape a ! symbol in a svn adress? I am trying to run "svn co https://svn.code.sf.net/p/despotify/code/!svn/vcc/default" |
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| 22:29.32 | Axton | Im getting a !svn/vcc/default: event not found |
| 22:31.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | sorin-mihai, this seems to be it... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1488719 |
| 22:31.12 | sorin-mihai | CutMeOwnThroat, actually this is a 4.3.3-2 kernel, seeing the error since updated. qill check with quiet for now... |
| 22:31.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | and there is no w |
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| 22:32.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | and there is no way, afik, to suppress certain messages - except by fixing them |
| 22:32.06 | sorin-mihai | CutMeOwnThroat, actually I have only the laptop screen, no attached monitor |
| 22:32.19 | penrod | quickest & best method to find out when Debian was installed ? |
| 22:32.39 | AvatarA | Axton, put the URL between quotes ' ' |
| 22:33.44 | Axton | AvatarA: Thx ;-) |
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| 22:35.05 | ghost_ | Hi, anyone know if the latest version of flashplugin-nonfree is vulnerable? I have seen a few websites tell me that my flash player is outdated? |
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| 22:39.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | penrod, no sure method... possibly "stat /etc/skel/" |
| 22:40.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | ghost_, as I remember, the latest linux version is often several versions behind the latest windows version... |
| 22:41.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | but also the update-flash thingy has to be updated and can lag behind and not fetch the latest available version |
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| 22:42.32 | AvatarA | penrod, you could try "sudo less /var/log/installer/syslog" |
| 22:42.57 | AvatarA | you can see when you have booted the installer |
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| 22:43.17 | AvatarA | although not all installation methods will create that directory |
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| 22:46.18 | penrod | Avatar thanks, for some reason, on one of the installations it isn't showing the year, which is what I am after, I could use /etc/apt/sources, but that would only give me the distro. usually the year is listed,..... odd |
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| 22:48.33 | Shadow_7 | penrod: I tend to put YYYYMMDD in the UUID of the partition, but not a standard way |
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| 22:49.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | pft. why. "2000" isn't so hard to remember |
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| 22:49.57 | AvatarA | you could also stat /opt and see the Modify time since that is equal to creation in most cases since it's usually untouched as almost nobody uses it |
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| 22:50.32 | AvatarA | of course, if that has been used, files created and deleted there, then the modify time will just show the last time that the directory was modified |
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| 22:53.14 | Shadow_7 | penrod: ls -al --full-time /etc/fstab (if it never changes since install) |
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| 22:55.14 | macslayer | Awwww |
| 22:55.22 | macslayer | This conversation is reminding me of Crunchbang... |
| 22:55.32 | macslayer | weeps. |
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| 22:59.33 | penrod | Shadow_7: still just shows month and day, no year. |
| 23:00.24 | Shadow_7 | penrod: even with --full-time |
| 23:01.40 | penrod | Shadow_7 "if I could only spell full-time correctly, argh, yes that did work, yyyy-mm-d |
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| 23:03.49 | tharkun | How can I change the default pdf reader on debian? |
| 23:04.01 | Devastator | is it possible to install squeeze with netinstall? I want to debug a kernel driver in 2.6 kernel |
| 23:05.16 | Shadow_7 | tharkun: reinstall the one you want last... apt-get install --reinstall okular |
| 23:05.35 | Waxhead | tharkun: you should ask how can I change the default pdf reader <insert_desktop_environment_here> |
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| 23:08.00 | tharkun | Gentlemen there is no dpkg-reconfigure option for that? |
| 23:08.27 | at0m | tharkun: or try update-alternatives |
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| 23:08.58 | tharkun | at0m: looking into it now. Thanks |
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| 23:10.09 | at0m | hm seems alternatives doesn't handle pdf here |
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| 23:13.02 | nkuttler | pff. so after a network disconnect i have some network mounts in uninterruptible sleep started from pid 1 that apparently prevent me from remounting the devices... anything i can do besides rebooting? |
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| 23:20.04 | lmw | what is the difference of ubuntu server vs debian in server environments? |
| 23:20.27 | tharkun | lmw: A ton and nothing at the same time. |
| 23:20.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, there's lazy unmounts with umount -l |
| 23:20.35 | Shadow_7 | ubuntu tends to install and enable everything by default... debian not so much |
| 23:20.51 | ompaul | eh if debian installs something it enables it |
| 23:21.07 | ompaul | that is and has been the default modus operandi for as long as I can remember |
| 23:21.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | wait, I got it... one of them is ubuntu, the other is debian! |
| 23:21.27 | ompaul | I'm forgetting the nineties |
| 23:21.29 | lmw | ubuntu server is like windows server then? a ton of **** preinstalled and preconfigured? |
| 23:21.34 | ompaul | mostly because of old age |
| 23:21.36 | nkuttler | CutMeOwnThroat: that's the first thing i tried, thanks though |
| 23:21.50 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: fair point well made |
| 23:21.56 | nkuttler | seems like i'll just have to reboot. box doesn't even suspend any more.. |
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| 23:23.03 | ompaul | lmw: do a study and come back and tell us which is which |
| 23:23.29 | tharkun | ompaul: ++ |
| 23:23.33 | Devastator | I've asked this a little above, but I guess I can't install squeeze with netinstall anymore, right? I want to debug a kernel driver in 2.6 |
| 23:23.52 | lmw | ompaul: would be interesting, making 2 virtual machines and do a default / standard install of debian (without desktop) and ubuntu server |
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| 23:24.27 | ompaul | lmw: at the end of the day - do whatever suits your skills and set up best |
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| 23:24.38 | lmw | sure |
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| 23:27.21 | tharkun | lmw: the purpose of having a dedicated "server" is to be able to configure to your needs if you thing that ubuntu is "Your" tool of choice. Then Go with it. If not. Then look the other way and use whatever suits your needs. |
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| 23:28.02 | Devastator | besides installing squeeze, is there any other way to use kernel 2.6 with debian? |
| 23:28.21 | ompaul | you don't want to be doing that |
| 23:28.26 | ompaul | supporting that will cost you |
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| 23:28.43 | ompaul | if it is internetfacing - go to the archives and you can get the full experience |
| 23:28.45 | tharkun | Devastator: I really hope that is one theoretical question |
| 23:28.46 | lmw | tharkun: yes, that's true. i'm just studying for myself and testing debian vs ubuntu in server environments. let's call that "hobby" |
| 23:28.52 | Shadow_7 | Devastator: kernel-package |
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| 23:31.00 | Devastator | ompaul the thing is: a driver was accepted in kernel 2.6.21 and I want to git bisect it, but I couldn't find a "good" revision in jessie's default 3.16.7 and the issue is still present in 4.3.3, so I thought I would go down to closest 2.6.21 kernel which is 2.6.32 in squeeze, just to see if the issue doesn't appear there, then start going up until 3.16.7 |
| 23:31.03 | sr20det | hello everyone, where can i find source code for debian x32 ports ? |
| 23:31.38 | Devastator | ompaul if the issue is present in 2.6.32 it is likely to be there since day 1 |
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| 23:31.58 | ompaul | Devastator: what is the issue / driver |
| 23:32.45 | xevz | It seems something else than systemd handles the ACPI event of my power button, because it suspends and poking at logind.conf won't do anything. Where else should I look? |
| 23:33.03 | Devastator | ompaul atl1 driver, poor performance when I run iperf as client, could debug I little and in debug mode the driver shows "tx busy", now I'm in contact with the maintainer who asked a git bisect |
| 23:34.17 | ompaul | The atl1 driver was released as part of kernel version 2.6.21 on April 27, 2007, and is now part of the mainline kernel. |
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| 23:34.48 | ompaul | given the age of it I wonder if the nick is just dying |
| 23:35.06 | ompaul | because tbh if I had a nick that old I'd be getting a new one |
| 23:35.31 | ompaul | that is frighteningly old |
| 23:35.32 | Devastator | ompaul not really, just tested on windows and performance, although not so stable, I can get 940+Mbit/s both ways |
| 23:35.58 | ompaul | Devastator: what does your mtu tell ya |
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| 23:36.10 | Devastator | ompaul in Windows 1500 |
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| 23:36.30 | Devastator | I haven't touched mtu in linux, so I can presume default is 1500 as well |
| 23:36.34 | ompaul | is it having problems on it's own lan |
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| 23:37.06 | Devastator | ompaul it's two computers directly connected with a cat6 |
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| 23:37.21 | ompaul | got a cat five? |
| 23:37.26 | ompaul | just to test it :-) |
| 23:37.34 | Devastator | ompaul tried, same results hehe |
| 23:37.36 | ompaul | if it's in mainline |
| 23:38.06 | ompaul | Devastator: right so on both computers now do an mtu test regardless of operating system - given you say both are suboptimal |
| 23:38.36 | Devastator | ompaul which value do you want me to try? |
| 23:38.51 | ompaul | Devastator: I want you to test fragged packet testing |
| 23:39.22 | Devastator | all I know is that in windows, if I set 1514 in driver, it sets 1500, so it has an offset of 14 |
| 23:39.42 | ompaul | eh 1500 is a natural max |
| 23:39.56 | ompaul | if you don't understand the question please say so |
| 23:40.37 | ompaul | there are massive packets but I'm guessing you don't have that kind of setup |
| 23:40.55 | Devastator | ompaul I understand the question, all I'm saying is that the driver has an offset of 14, which is odd |
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| 23:41.39 | Barbarossa | Hi there |
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| 23:41.56 | Barbarossa | I'm having troubles with gbp/dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 23:42.55 | Barbarossa | http://pastebin.com/qnUaDbHc |
| 23:43.04 | Barbarossa | Anyone having an idea what is going wrong? |
| 23:43.25 | ompaul | Devastator: these are the commands I want to see run http://muzso.hu/2009/05/17/how-to-determine-the-proper-mtu-size-with-icmp-pings |
| 23:43.27 | Barbarossa | I'm wondering why there seem to be modifications with a freshly created orig tarball |
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| 23:46.32 | Devastator | ompaul from windows (atl1 card) to linux (rtl8169) max is 1472, 1473 says it needs fragmentation, testing the other side now |
| 23:48.40 | Devastator | ompaul from linux to windows is the same 1472 |
| 23:48.59 | ompaul | I've seen windows do strange things really strange things because it didn't like the mtu |
| 23:49.01 | ompaul | just saying |
| 23:49.05 | ompaul | leaves that there |
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| 23:49.30 | Devastator | ompaul yeah, but I see the problem running both on linux |
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| 23:50.30 | ompaul | Devastator: so set the mtu and make sure you are still seeing the problem |
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| 23:52.05 | Devastator | ompaul set both to 1472, right? |
| 23:52.36 | ompaul | Devastator: that's a good starting point |
| 23:53.00 | ompaul | Devastator: are they linked by a router |
| 23:53.04 | ompaul | or directly |
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| 23:53.41 | Devastator | ompaul directly |
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| 23:54.21 | ompaul | for fun you might try a reasonable switch |
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| 23:56.09 | Devastator | ompaul this is where it all started hehe before testing the performance of my network I checked the performance of these two computers just to be sure I had 940+Mbit/s both ways |
| 23:56.46 | Devastator | ompaul then, after 3 days playing and testing I could see that as client this computer couldn't give more than ~600Mbit/s |
| 23:56.59 | ompaul | well you won't get 1gig there is tcp overhead |
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| 23:57.28 | ompaul | big packets little packets all do different things |
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| 23:58.04 | Devastator | sure, the maximum I could achieve is 948Mbit/s, that's way I'm using iperf, to remove a few variables from the equation |
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