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| 00:33.28 | m3nda_ | Hi |
| 00:34.15 | m3nda_ | Help: I've tried to configure my nvidia on Debian Jessie but i don't know why is not working. |
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| 00:35.43 | c0fe | m3nda_: usually nvidia doesn't play well with linux, have you checked to make sure you have linux drivers for your nvidia card? |
| 00:36.15 | c0fe | dpkg |
| 00:36.24 | m3nda_ | I've installed it on Mint, so i can say it's can work with some Linux |
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| 00:37.09 | m3nda_ | c0fe, right now im installing it again, following another guide |
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| 00:37.29 | c0fe | m3nda_: here is the thing, linux mint is based on ubuntu which is based on unstable version of debian |
| 00:37.44 | m3nda_ | c0fe, Mint now is based on stable |
| 00:37.45 | c0fe | m3nda_: so sometimes you have a bit of changes made from distro to distro |
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| 00:38.02 | m3nda_ | c0fe, do you mean that nvidia don't work on Debian at all? |
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| 00:38.17 | c0fe | m3nda_: no but they don't always work |
| 00:38.34 | m3nda_ | c0fe, what should i check ? |
| 00:39.17 | m3nda_ | c0fe, sorry, must restart because of the install, im back in few |
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| 00:43.03 | karlpinc | !nvidia |
| 00:43.03 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:48.57 | ksx4system | is it possible to run jessie without bullshitd (systemd)? |
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| 00:49.51 | ksx4system | or do I have to actually abandon GNU/Linux after wheezy LTS support ends? |
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| 00:50.22 | bazhang | #debian-fork ksx4system |
| 00:50.25 | c0fe | ksx4system: no its not possible |
| 00:50.39 | c0fe | ksx4system: duvuan is a choice, so is abandoning |
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| 00:53.20 | c0fe | ksx4system: though a lot of distros are changing over to systemd and there is good reasons for it |
| 00:55.58 | c0fe | though I do not think Duvuan is serious |
| 00:56.03 | abrotman | ksx4system: yes |
| 00:56.12 | abrotman | c0fe: it is possible, please don't make things up |
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| 00:56.28 | c0fe | abrotman: really? well then |
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| 00:56.58 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ksx4system about remove systemd |
| 00:57.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ksx4system about systemd paranoia |
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| 00:57.52 | c0fe | dpkg: tell c0fe about systemd paranoia |
| 00:59.00 | ksx4system | abrotman: unfortunately that doesn't help much (first reboot after doing what you suggest is ok, second hangs the server) |
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| 00:59.38 | abrotman | ksx4system: install a minimal system, do these steps first |
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| 01:00.19 | c0fe | ksx4system: i am curious what is your issue with systemd? |
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| 01:00.32 | ksx4system | abrotman, this is exactly what I was doing... still no dice |
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| 01:01.55 | abrotman | ksx4system: Should I install a VM to try this? |
| 01:02.29 | ksx4system | abrotman, I haven't try this one on systems with true hard drive (only nbd) |
| 01:03.07 | ksx4system | tried* |
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| 01:05.17 | ksx4system | is Debian/kFreeBSD still supported? maybe this is how could I stay with Debian but keep off bullshitd |
| 01:05.21 | abrotman | ksx4system: I don't think that should matter |
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| 01:05.33 | abrotman | ksx4system: or you could try to learn systemd? :P) |
| 01:06.12 | ksx4system | abrotman, why learn something what sucks on its basic philosophy level? |
| 01:06.52 | ksx4system | excluding higher TCO I think that even Windows Server makes more sense than *any* distro with bullshitd |
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| 01:08.58 | c0fe | ksx4system: you can use Windows or Macs |
| 01:09.37 | c0fe | but macs use launchd |
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| 01:09.47 | abrotman | ksx4system: a little dramatic .. |
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| 01:09.59 | abrotman | ksx4system: anyway, do yu want me to install a VM, or are you going to try again? |
| 01:10.20 | abrotman | notes every distro now defaults to systemd, except Gentoo AFAIK |
| 01:10.20 | ksx4system | abrotman: trying again with one little nbd related hack |
| 01:10.23 | abrotman | major distro |
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| 01:10.45 | ksx4system | understands, that's why it's most likely time to abandon Linux |
| 01:10.58 | abrotman | you can run Jessie without systemd |
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| 01:12.19 | abrotman | ksx4system: there's always HURD :) |
| 01:12.56 | c0fe | well there is systembsd as well now |
| 01:13.28 | ksx4system | abrotman, no thanks :) I don't do *that much* drugs |
| 01:13.40 | ksx4system | (if I did then I would most likely love bullshitd) |
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| 01:13.55 | abrotman | it's really not that bad .. |
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| 01:14.10 | abrotman | it's different .. remember how much we fought against udev? |
| 01:14.17 | themill | Also, feel free to ask for help without making up names for things that make you look like a 6 year old |
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| 01:14.57 | ksx4system | abrotman, udev wasn't that bad |
| 01:15.05 | ksx4system | actually it sometimes was great |
| 01:15.09 | c0fe | continues to sit behind his windows computer smiling |
| 01:15.14 | abrotman | ksx4system: It was a train wreck for early adopters .. |
| 01:15.50 | ksx4system | I'm never early adopter of stuff that might break my OS ;) |
| 01:16.10 | ksx4system | c0fe, and now I'm really scared (that systembsd thing) |
| 01:16.11 | abrotman | well, you're in luck. Systemd has been around for a bit .. sohuldn't break your OS now |
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| 01:17.34 | c0fe | ksx4system: exactly, systembsd is newer port for bsd |
| 01:17.43 | somiaj | systemd works fine here for me, it did what I wanted it to. Hid nicely in the background, I just cringe each time I see all the extra processes I don't need running. |
| 01:17.52 | ksx4system | themill, I doubt that 6yo would use that word ;) let alone having strong views regarding any OS and/or its parts |
| 01:18.13 | c0fe | ok then ksx4system a 13 year old living in the basement |
| 01:18.36 | abrotman | somiaj: use grep, hide it in the background :) |
| 01:19.18 | ksx4system | some people still care about fresh OS ram usage... 68M? just let me die... |
| 01:19.39 | ksx4system | with wheezy it was something 10M-ish |
| 01:19.57 | somiaj | abrotman: I just think systemd needs a 'minimial' flag that says, I don't want all this fancy desktop integration stuff running. Oh and systemctl needs to give better output/errors. |
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| 01:21.18 | somiaj | took me far to long to realize why my .service file wasn't working was because I had to tell systemctrl to stop the service before starting it again with my fixed .service file. Output like "service is running, stoping." would have been very nice. |
| 01:21.29 | ksx4system | c0fe, not really |
| 01:21.51 | ksx4system | somiaj, exactly! why waste resources when there's no reason to do so |
| 01:22.19 | somiaj | ksx4system: anyways, why just use sysvinit if you dont' like systemd? I missed your original issue, but I think debian is taking a good route, giving users choice. |
| 01:22.36 | abrotman | somiaj: he's having problems installing systemd-shim and getting it to work |
| 01:22.54 | ksx4system | somiaj, systemd as default means taking worst possible route |
| 01:23.14 | somiaj | abrotman: ahh. |
| 01:23.26 | abrotman | ksx4system: in your opinion .. Not everyone agrees with you .. Shocker |
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| 01:23.55 | ksx4system | abrotman, systemd-shim doesn't really help :P still broken nbd on 2nd and any next reboot |
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| 01:24.31 | shawn | abrotman: +1 |
| 01:24.33 | abrotman | ksx4system: so, your setup is weird? |
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| 02:22.42 | Nirvash | http://dpaste.com/34YQQGY <-- Is line 1 a HUP failure as reported in /var/log/messages? |
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| 02:28.59 | jordanm | Nirvash: HUP is a signal, usually sent by logrotate |
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| 02:30.07 | Nirvash | So that line is stating that the process ID 7193 was terminated? I'm having a process end every Thursday, but no one can find out why. =/ |
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| 02:31.02 | jordanm | Nirvash: no, it doesn't terminate it |
| 02:31.16 | jordanm | Nirvash: it tells rsyslog to reopen it's log handles |
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| 02:31.42 | Nirvash | Ah, okay. I'm at a loss... I know cron could affect it, but couldn't find anything there. |
| 02:31.42 | jordanm | http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/master/compatibility/v4compatibility.html#hup-processing |
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| 02:33.04 | jordanm | Nirvash: what is the problem you are having? are you losing log data? |
| 02:33.55 | Nirvash | It looks like it (unless I'm looking in the wrong place). The service is shout, and it closes every Thursday. It's not normal behavior from other users, but I can't find logs or anything that is stopping it. |
| 02:34.09 | jordanm | Nirvash: your syslog service? |
| 02:34.42 | jordanm | Nirvash: oh, shout is the name of the service |
| 02:35.23 | jordanm | Nirvash: dmesg show any OOM killing? |
| 02:35.38 | jordanm | Nirvash: does journalctl -u shout display anything useful? |
| 02:35.52 | Nirvash | 0_0 Let me check :) |
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| 02:38.21 | Nirvash | jordanm -- Logs begin at Thu 2015-09-24 14:44:22 EDT, end at Wed 2015-10-28 22:23:42 EDT. |
| 02:38.29 | Nirvash | That's the only output I received. |
| 02:38.53 | jordanm | Nirvash: dmesg should contain all kernel messages since boot |
| 02:39.02 | Nirvash | Alright, I'm going to check now |
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| 02:40.19 | Nirvash | Apparently it's empty. |
| 02:40.44 | jordanm | Nirvash: you ran "dmesg" and it returned no output? |
| 02:41.02 | Nirvash | .... no I did not. I see that I have 4 OOM warnings... |
| 02:41.23 | jordanm | mystery solved |
| 02:41.26 | Nirvash | So, we're getting OOM and systemd is killing Shout? |
| 02:41.35 | Nirvash | (Thank you, no one else thought to check that.) |
| 02:41.42 | jordanm | the kernel, not systemd, kills processes via OOM killer |
| 02:42.00 | jordanm | it does so to prevent the system from crashing |
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| 02:42.27 | jordanm | you can add some swap to try and mitigate it from being killed, but performance will suffer |
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| 02:43.01 | jordanm | if the process has a memory leak and memory will always grow in usage until restarted, you will have to cron restarts some other hackish solution |
| 02:43.46 | Nirvash | Interesting... this is a VPS and doesn't have a ton of anything. I wonder what's taking all the memory though 0_o |
| 02:43.59 | jordanm | or if shout is started via a systemd unit, you can add "restart=on-failure" to the service file so you at least don't need to manually start it after it gets killed |
| 02:44.18 | jordanm | Nirvash: is it a VM or a container? |
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| 02:45.22 | Nirvash | OpenVZ so a container, correct? |
| 02:45.25 | jordanm | yeah |
| 02:45.41 | jordanm | so it might not even be your container or your processes |
| 02:45.55 | jordanm | resources are only semi-isolated on openvz containers |
| 02:46.22 | jordanm | hosting companies typically oversell the resources on them as well. not recommended for anything serious |
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| 02:48.06 | Nirvash | Yeah, it's just something for me to play around with and learn Debian a bit. I mean... I paid $15 for a year, so I'm getting my money's worth lol. This IRC is on there at the moment. |
| 02:48.31 | jordanm | yeah, that's a lot cheaper than ec2 |
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| 02:54.58 | wadadli_ | Nirvash: One doesn't learn debian. |
| 02:55.30 | Nirvash | You should have said "simply learn" and you'd have a good Sean Bean reference. |
| 02:55.33 | Nirvash | And Linux*. |
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| 02:57.42 | wadadli_ | seriously |
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| 03:20.37 | Nirvash | jordanm -- it looks like Shout may just be a beefy program! haha |
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| 03:22.40 | own3dz | hi, anyone can explain me the differences of "sudo update-rc.d <package> enable" / "sudo update-rc.d <package> enable" / "sudo update-rc.d <package> enable. i already search about and can't understand.<package> |
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| 03:24.06 | jordanm | own3dz: <package> is a placeholder. you put the name of thing you want to enable there |
| 03:24.09 | own3dz | ops :x hi guys, anyone can explain me the differences of "sudo update-rc.d <package> enable start defaults" |
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| 03:25.10 | own3dz | i need to enable symlink at all runlevels, or default script defined levels |
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| 03:25.29 | own3dz | i see that is update-rc.d package enable |
| 03:25.41 | jordanm | own3dz: what version of debian? |
| 03:26.42 | own3dz | this is a raspbian image, debian v8 jessie |
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| 03:27.26 | jordanm | own3dz: rc.d links are not relevant in jessie with systemd |
| 03:27.53 | own3dz | what not relevant means ? |
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| 03:28.28 | jordanm | sysvinit links are not used. the concept of a runlevel doesn't really exist |
| 03:28.48 | own3dz | what is systemd on debian ? i create a init.d script and i should create a symlink after for defaults levels ? |
| 03:28.59 | own3dz | defined here "# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5" |
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| 03:29.26 | jordanm | own3dz: nope, links don't matter. "systemctl enable <yourservice>" is all you need |
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| 03:29.46 | own3dz | okey but this scripts is compatible right ? |
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| 03:30.33 | jordanm | own3dz: yes, it's compatible with sysvinit scripts |
| 03:30.35 | own3dz | systemd manage init scripts ? was the new sysv init ? |
| 03:30.41 | own3dz | hmm ok |
| 03:31.27 | own3dz | when i do "systemctl enable <yourservice>" i need to ahve yourservice file in /etc/init.d ? |
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| 03:31.42 | jordanm | own3dz: yes |
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| 03:32.42 | own3dz | update-rc.d yourservice enable|disable don't make sense on jessie now ? |
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| 03:35.55 | Nirvash | jordanm -- if I'm at a sustainable RAM and VSwap usage, could cron tasks be tipping it OOM? |
| 03:36.27 | jordanm | Nirvash: if they consume RAM, yes |
| 03:36.50 | Nirvash | Step 2... how do I check cron tasks? |
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| 03:47.25 | jordanm | Nirvash: crontab -l |
| 03:48.37 | benaiah | so, I installed debian jessie with kde from a live usb using the netinst iso, and then once I'd booted I replaced all instances of "jessie" in /etc/apt/sources.list with "testing". I did a sudo apt-get update and installed firmware-iwlwifi, which worked fine. then I tried to install chromium, and now apt-get is removing a ton of packages and things are beginning to stop working (konqueror can't find any |
| 03:48.39 | benaiah | plugins, including webkit, the system settings panels are beginning to stop working, etc). why did installing chromium cause the removal of all this stuff? I have a ton of broken packages and it looks like I'm going to have to reinstall the os on this computer for the third time in as many days. |
| 03:51.19 | jordanm | benaiah: did you upgrade your system to testing after adding the testing sources? |
| 03:51.40 | benaiah | jordanm: I didn't do an apt-get ugrade, no |
| 03:51.59 | jordanm | benaiah: there is your problem. you can't mix releases like that |
| 03:52.08 | jordanm | benaiah: need to go all testing or not at all |
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| 03:53.27 | benaiah | is the situation I'm in now easily recoverable, or would it be better to nuke it and start over? |
| 03:54.08 | jordanm | benaiah: probably recoverable if you don't mind the upgrade to testing |
| 03:54.26 | jordanm | benaiah: but to remain on stable would be more trouble than it's worth |
| 03:54.56 | benaiah | jordanm: I wanted to use testing, I just wanted chromium and emacs installed so I could use them while waiting through the upgrade |
| 03:55.54 | jordanm | ,v chromium |
| 03:55.55 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 44.0.2403.89-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 46.0.2490.71-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 46.0.2490.71-1~deb8u1; stretch: 46.0.2490.71-1; sid: 46.0.2490.71-1; experimental: 47.0.2526.16-1 |
| 03:56.13 | jordanm | benaiah: jessie already had the latest chromium version |
| 03:56.35 | benaiah | yeah, I just didn't think to install it before changing the sources.list |
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| 03:57.21 | jordanm | benaiah: at this point, you can probably just apt-get dist-upgrade and then apt-get install kde-full to get to a working state |
| 03:57.40 | benaiah | jordanm: excellent, thanks |
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| 04:00.08 | karlpinc | own3dz: It might, possibly. They say systemd is backwards compatible. (Excpet where it's not.) But better to use the systemd way. |
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| 05:26.40 | aswin | I cant connect to the usb ethernet |
| 05:27.18 | aswin | I have connected Beagle bone black through the USB |
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| 05:28.06 | aswin | System recognize it as a USB ethernet but it fails to create a connection |
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| 05:30.14 | aswin | no Its a beagle bone black |
| 05:30.23 | lesta | ok |
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| 05:31.41 | aswin | lesta: Connected !! |
| 05:31.57 | aswin | I created a new profile. :) |
| 05:32.00 | lesta | good |
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| 05:56.59 | shawn | Bbb's are win |
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| 05:57.18 | Quodpipax | ssbbw |
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| 05:58.52 | dionysus69 | can anyone please support me on how to boot a custom debian installation as a live usb? |
| 05:59.12 | dionysus69 | for example how can I boot my current installation from usb |
| 06:00.25 | GitGud | hi there. i have a question. what plugin do i need to install to play soundcloud music on my computer? i run debian 8 |
| 06:00.27 | Quodpipax | Just burn the ISO to the usb with correct sowtware, then boot it through bios. |
| 06:01.34 | BuzzardBuzz | dionysus69: you want to run your debian from usb, not install from it right? |
| 06:01.48 | dionysus69 | well run it with option of installation would be nice |
| 06:02.00 | dionysus69 | just like any other live bootable linux usb works |
| 06:02.56 | dionysus69 | but I want to understand which branches of the / tree are crucial parts in boot, which directories should I copy? |
| 06:03.17 | somiaj | dionysus69: live.debian.net is a set of tools to build custom live images. You could go read though the docs and try to build your own custom live image. |
| 06:03.18 | BuzzardBuzz | dionysus69: so you want to boot a live debian from usb, the issue here is that it wont remember stuff, between boots |
| 06:03.18 | Quodpipax | dionysus69: What do you mean by "custom"? |
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| 06:03.50 | somiaj | dionysus69: The other option is to use a premade live image and configure persistance. This way it will rember changes you make to it such as installing additional software, changing settings in $HOME etc. |
| 06:04.06 | somiaj | dionysus69: live.debian.net contains documenation on how to use peristance with the debian live images |
| 06:04.15 | dionysus69 | Quodpipax: right now I have fully setup debian on which I spent a week so I want to back it up so in case something happens I can just install it again |
| 06:04.48 | dionysus69 | ok will check that site thanks :) |
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| 06:06.14 | dionysus69 | is this the custom options for debian? http://cgi.build.live-systems.org/cgi-bin/live-build |
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| 06:06.46 | muse | rsync works great for that, dionysus69. |
| 06:07.41 | dionysus69 | muse ok yes thats where I was leading my question actually, can you please tell me what directories exactly would I need to boot rsynced system from usb ? or perhaps from same machine if I just paste backed up thing later |
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| 06:09.20 | muse | dionysus69, i just mount backup media on /mnt and use: rsync -aAHX --info=progress2 --exclude={"/home/*","/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /* /mnt |
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| 06:09.44 | muse | or you can remove the home bit if you want to back up /home, too. |
| 06:10.09 | Quodpipax | dionysus69: If I were you, I'd make it easy and copy the whole drive. :D |
| 06:10.24 | dionysus69 | muse: will do ))) ok so that step image is done, I also paste in efi directory and it will boot or there will be something more to do? |
| 06:10.56 | dionysus69 | Quodpipax: yes but I have heard directories like proc should not be copied. I am doing my research before proceeding :D |
| 06:10.58 | muse | dionysus69, the just fix fstab and grub on the backup and you can boot it. |
| 06:11.03 | muse | then* |
| 06:11.18 | dionysus69 | ok let me take a look at fstab so I know whats going on |
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| 06:12.42 | dionysus69 | ok so /dev/disk/by-uuid/, would I need to change that though? uuid stays same doesn't it? |
| 06:12.54 | dionysus69 | or you mean if I want to boot from different hardware? |
| 06:13.18 | muse | if you boot from different partitions |
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| 06:13.38 | dionysus69 | didnt get it :S |
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| 06:14.54 | muse | spoze you rsync to another drive. then you have to tell fstab where your partitions live now. /, /home, swap, optical drive. you can use device names or uuid's, doesn't matter. |
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| 06:16.15 | dionysus69 | oh ok now its clear :D ok and the last part, what happens with grub in case of legacy &| efi boot? |
| 06:17.25 | muse | efi is not something i'm qualified to pontificate on. :) |
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| 06:18.18 | dionysus69 | I thought it was easier than legacy :D but fine lets just discuss legacy boot then ? :P where how do I install grub on that different partition, with chroot from different running system? |
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| 06:20.31 | muse | dionysus69, you can just update and existing grub with the new drive plugged in. you might have to fix grub.cfg. it sometimes puts in the wrong uuid. then boot the backup, and do grub-install /dev/sdX and update-grub for the new drive. |
| 06:20.38 | muse | and=an |
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| 06:21.35 | dionysus69 | cool will try all that now |
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| 06:21.39 | dionysus69 | will post results |
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| 06:22.38 | dionysus69 | one last thing :D how do I encrypt the backed up stack? there are so many tools its hard to make a decision so whats the best in your opinion? |
| 06:22.56 | muse | cryptsetup, imo. |
| 06:23.10 | dionysus69 | is it cross platform? |
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| 06:23.23 | dionysus69 | not necessary but still |
| 06:23.37 | muse | that i don't know. haven't used windows in forever. |
| 06:23.46 | dionysus69 | haha ok sounds good |
| 06:23.52 | dionysus69 | will note that down too )) |
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| 06:24.05 | muse | but if windows can do crypt-luks... |
| 06:24.07 | dionysus69 | thanks allot for consulting |
| 06:24.13 | muse | np :) |
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| 06:29.19 | dionysus69 | is it ok to back up ext4 stuff on ntfs? will "something" be lost? |
| 06:29.50 | muse | bad idea. lots of problems. unless you tar it. |
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| 06:30.05 | dionysus69 | ok so I ll make backup media ext4 too? |
| 06:30.16 | muse | definitely good. |
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| 06:30.23 | dionysus69 | kk sounds good |
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| 06:32.27 | aswin | clear |
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| 06:45.16 | enthdegree | hi goys |
| 06:45.27 | enthdegree | I have a Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) |
| 06:45.48 | enthdegree | when I plug something into my displayport I can turn the display on |
| 06:45.54 | enthdegree | but only one display works |
| 06:46.18 | enthdegree | I can set multimonitor in Gnome's display settings, but only one screan turns on |
| 06:46.38 | enthdegree | the computer thinks everything is working but only one display is actually on at any point |
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| 06:47.12 | enthdegree | interestingly i can switch between the audio from the external monitor and the internal one with no problem |
| 06:47.21 | enthdegree | What is going wrong? |
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| 07:27.21 | Quodpipax_ | Guys, anyone know anything about Sabayon? I'm trying to install it all week but with no success, I think it is because of not very unstable releases. So I'm looking for more stable, and I want to ask, if anybody knows, what build (version || kernel || relase) is the most stable? |
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| 07:32.13 | mancomunado | Aptitude and apt-get is failling me. I purged aptitude to install it again, and now it requires dependencies that always demands more downloading them manually since I can't install by apt-get. Synaptic as well. |
| 07:32.18 | mancomunado | What I do? |
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| 07:33.27 | SirLagz | mancomunado: resolve the dependencies? Why would you need to download things manually? apt-get should download everything for you... |
| 07:33.48 | mancomunado | the initial poroblem SirLagz |
| 07:33.58 | mancomunado | aptitude and apt-get isn't working by some reason |
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| 07:34.08 | SirLagz | mancomunado: what's the error you get when you try and use apt-get ? |
| 07:34.12 | mancomunado | I only use apper |
| 07:34.42 | mancomunado | nothing, it just finishes its stuff and says there no package when installing or update it prompts a new line as a command was finished |
| 07:35.38 | SirLagz | mancomunado: apper as in the KDE package manager? |
| 07:35.49 | mancomunado | Yes. |
| 07:36.11 | SirLagz | mancomunado: ok. Let's ignore apper for now. Can you run apt-get update? Does that return an error? |
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| 07:37.29 | mancomunado | This is what happens by update |
| 07:37.31 | mancomunado | http://pastebin.com/mvcxUkt4 |
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| 07:38.16 | SirLagz | mancomunado: take out those ppa.launchpad.net entries from your source file and try again |
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| 07:38.48 | mancomunado | Do you know the command by chance? |
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| 07:39.14 | SirLagz | mancomunado: nope. I do it manually by modifiying /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 07:40.19 | mancomunado | sources.list.d only |
| 07:40.33 | mancomunado | folder sources.list.d |
| 07:40.40 | mancomunado | files sources.list.save |
| 07:40.45 | SirLagz | mancomunado: ok...so something in sources.list.d has those ppa entries. remove them ppa entries |
| 07:40.48 | mancomunado | files sources.list |
| 07:41.05 | mancomunado | There's 3 source.liost |
| 07:41.07 | mancomunado | a folder, sources.list.d |
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| 07:41.10 | mancomunado | a file, sources.list |
| 07:41.20 | mancomunado | other file asources.list.save |
| 07:41.25 | mancomunado | sources.list.save |
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| 07:43.04 | SirLagz | mancomunado: look through all the files, remove ppa entries. |
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| 07:45.24 | mancomunado | http://pastebin.com/DgMT59uA |
| 07:47.09 | jelly | ,v rarian-compat |
| 07:47.10 | judd | Package: rarian-compat on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.1-5; wheezy: 0.8.1-5; sid: 0.8.1-6; jessie: 0.8.1-6; stretch: 0.8.1-6 |
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| 07:48.22 | JyZyXEL | is annoying that every little KDE bug found in jessie will not get fixed until stretch releases because the answer always is "it's been fixed in KDE 5" |
| 07:49.05 | mancomunado | SirLagz |
| 07:49.06 | mancomunado | mancomunado@mancomunado:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic |
| 07:49.06 | mancomunado | A ler as listas de pacotes... Pronto |
| 07:49.07 | mancomunado | A construir árvore de dependências |
| 07:49.07 | mancomunado | A ler a informação de estado... Pronto |
| 07:49.07 | mancomunado | Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 07:49.08 | JyZyXEL | just have to live with the bugs and figure out workarounds |
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| 07:51.01 | trewas | isn't that the same with every package and bug in a stable debian release? (except something security related) |
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| 07:52.12 | JyZyXEL | well yeah, but lonely packages can be backported or "easily" upgraded to stretch version |
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| 07:56.09 | SirLagz | lol...look away for a bit and the guy got kicked |
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| 07:57.59 | JyZyXEL | a huge portion of my time goes to just figuring out workarounds for debian jessie :D |
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| 08:00.41 | mancomunado | SirLagz any ideas? |
| 08:01.18 | leandrosansilva | hey guys, when using XDM (sddm is buggy and does not work anymore), how do I define the user session? |
| 08:01.26 | leandrosansilva | it's not $HOME/.xinitrc anymore |
| 08:01.26 | SirLagz | mancomunado: I can't read what you psated. |
| 08:01.48 | leandrosansilva | my .xinitrc has only xterm, but xdm starts kde tomy user! |
| 08:01.51 | mancomunado | E: Package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate |
| 08:01.57 | mancomunado | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 08:02.00 | mancomunado | is only available from another source |
| 08:02.01 | SirLagz | mancomunado: though it look like synaptic is not available as a package. so maybe try installing something else |
| 08:02.05 | mancomunado | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:02.32 | mancomunado | all packages creates the same error |
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| 08:04.17 | SirLagz | mancomunado: have you run apt-get update since you removed all the references to ppa.launchpad.net ? |
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| 08:06.03 | mancomunado | http://pastebin.com/imbq8HUf |
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| 08:06.53 | SirLagz | mancomunado: ok cool...can you also paste the contents of all of your files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
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| 08:07.57 | mancomunado | I deleted them as long as sources.list.save |
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| 08:09.40 | SirLagz | what? |
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| 08:15.23 | mancomunado | the folder is gone |
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| 08:16.46 | BuzzardBuzz | mancomunado: want them back? |
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| 08:18.38 | mancomunado | BuzzardBuzz, apt-get and aptitude aren't working |
| 08:18.53 | mancomunado | I don't know how to install synpatic to get ffmpeg without installing hundreads of dependencies |
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| 08:20.38 | BuzzardBuzz | mancomunado: is there any data on your partition that you want to keep? If yes, then make a backup copy on a different drive and reinstall your OS, would be what I would do |
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| 08:22.00 | mancomunado | BuzzardBuzz, For a simple bug like synpatic/apt-get? |
| 08:23.10 | BuzzardBuzz | mancomunado: You are sure that you only have that issue and that it is simple then you have no issue to worry about |
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| 08:26.52 | mancomunado | ffmpeg is something I wanted to get it done on my partition, if I can't, windows is ready on a boot. my intention coming here was to solve, not receive advice on what to do to not accomplish anything |
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| 08:34.58 | nstr | mancomunado: ??? |
| 08:35.26 | nstr | o_O |
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| 08:51.54 | gabboman | Hi, I still have the problem of my computer freezing and I compiled my own kernel |
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| 08:51.57 | gabboman | what could I do? |
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| 08:52.28 | gabboman | (Debian testing, laptop with silvermont chip, intel HD graphics) |
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| 09:10.40 | gabbomanOnAndroi | The computer froze :/ |
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| 09:13.59 | jelly | gabbomanOnAndroi: does it answer to pings from a different machine in the local network when it appears to freeze? |
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| 09:17.35 | DeaDSouL | i just love debian as server.. i have 3 debian servers in my home .... i wanted to make a real NAS-box ... should I use NAS servers, like freenas or open vault.... or is it better to build it from scratch with a fresh minimal installation of debian ? |
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| 09:20.17 | JyZyXEL | DeaDSouL: i went with the later option and it certainly has thought me a lot over the years |
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| 09:20.33 | SynrGy | DeaDSouL: you're on #debian. the answer to "should i use debian or something else" is always "use debian" :) |
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| 09:21.46 | SynrGy | certainly if you want support here, that's what you should use |
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| 09:27.37 | DeaDSouL | JyZyXEL: indeed it will tech us a lot if did everything on our own |
| 09:27.40 | gabbomanOnAndroi | Jelly as always, total freeze. Cant ssh to it |
| 09:27.56 | DeaDSouL | SynrGy: i have no problem with that... as i said... i just love debian :) |
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| 09:28.53 | jelly | gabbomanOnAndroi: and ping? |
| 09:28.55 | gabboman | jelly, back to the computer but it can explode aaaaany second. What coud I do for debug that. It seems a bigger problem that the kernel |
| 09:28.58 | gabboman | nope, no ping |
| 09:29.27 | gabboman | I tried to connect to my machine, and then sshd to my raspberry pi to make a nmap to the network. And there wasn't any ssh |
| 09:29.49 | JyZyXEL | DeaDSouL: you will get to spend a lot of quality time with debian, learning the best practices then :) |
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| 09:30.36 | gabboman | now I am trying gnome in wayland. Xfce also freezes |
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| 09:31.48 | JyZyXEL | just keep in mind that there will be lots of rope, enough to hang yourself and everyone else involved if you don't take it seriously enough :P |
| 09:32.03 | JyZyXEL | we've seen this many many times on #linux-raid hehe |
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| 09:32.57 | DeaDSouL | JyZyXEL: trust me i did that many times... :) |
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| 09:33.02 | gabboman | what do you wanna do? |
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| 09:34.37 | DeaDSouL | JyZyXEL: with debian its like you'll be awarded with a stable solid system to work as you want it to almost forever, just configure it... unlike some other distros :P |
| 09:34.54 | xaa | hello, I am trying to make first steps with ACL but I am not sure if I have remount the disk or not ? It seems that if kernel is older than 2.6.38 (ext3) this is not required ? |
| 09:35.36 | DeaDSouL | JyZyXEL: hehehe, i guess i will be using only mirroring :D |
| 09:35.44 | DeaDSouL | safer and easier :D |
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| 09:39.50 | plamot | Hi I'm on debian testing, and since yesterday my X is broken, I can see a segfault related to libxcb.so in my kernel.log when sddm is started or when I do a startx |
| 09:40.16 | plamot | Is it something knowned? is there a fix? |
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| 09:40.48 | JyZyXEL | plamot: hmm, perhaps #debian-next on OFTC? |
| 09:41.04 | plamot | OFTC? |
| 09:41.13 | Tsutsukakushi | plamot: it's an irc network |
| 09:42.05 | plamot | ok thanks |
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| 09:55.11 | schutzwurst | SPF: if you do not know where it is you could use: find / | grep X |
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| 10:00.38 | dionysus69 | I did chroot on a copy of my current system usb drive |
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| 10:00.46 | dionysus69 | i want to update grub but apparently nothing is mounted |
| 10:01.07 | dionysus69 | fdisk -l doesnt work since /proc is also empty |
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| 10:01.31 | dionysus69 | how do I make it see root as a usb drive itself? |
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| 10:02.11 | Stummi | dionysus69, either boot from it or mount proc, sys and dev correctly on your chroot |
| 10:02.36 | dionysus69 | how do I mount them correctly? |
| 10:02.51 | Stummi | mount -t proc proc proc; mount -t sysfs sys sys; mount -o bind /dev dev |
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| 10:07.02 | dionysus69 | Stummi: thanks Stummi I did that but it still doesnt see any partitions |
| 10:07.22 | dionysus69 | those dirs you made me mount are empty I just didnt copy them from my current system |
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| 10:13.17 | fireba11 | hi, i'm calling "service apache2 reload" from a shell script running as root and get a -1 return value. what does that mean? |
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| 10:27.01 | mflow | Can I revert overwitten files from an ext4 filesystem in a specific directory ? |
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| 10:30.28 | gabboman | I'll be back if I have more problems of my system freezing. I'm on wayland and for a few hours everything is ok |
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| 10:34.51 | x86_64 | fireba11, try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
| 10:34.53 | x86_64 | and then start |
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| 10:47.43 | fireba11 | x86_64: interestingly /etc/init.d/apache2 reload works while service apache2 reload does not ... thx |
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| 10:49.54 | sorin-mihai | is there any known way to add a nfs share that is inside a kvm vm so that it is also available in the host? |
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| 10:54.12 | Quodpipax69 | mancomunado just could use 'apt-get -f install' to get all dependencies. :)) I always use that command, when I see something is not installing and throwing me dependencies problems. |
| 10:54.24 | shneh | Should jessie-backports contain the same version of packages as debian testing? |
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| 10:55.29 | shneh | For example I am trying to install claws-mail on jessie, which normally offers version 3.11.1-3. When I -t jessie-backports, I am still offered 3.11.1-3, instead of 3.13.0-1 that is in testing. |
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| 11:01.30 | ctmjr | shneh: are you sure it is in backports? |
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| 11:11.20 | paul` | I'm trying to remove libaudit-common, for some reason this gives me a messag "Init predepends on systemd-sysv but it is not going to be installed" |
| 11:11.29 | paul` | In fact it's already installed |
| 11:11.40 | paul` | not sure what's causing this? |
| 11:11.47 | Quodpipax69 | apt-get -f install |
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| 11:13.23 | paul` | thanks, but that didn't help |
| 11:14.03 | Quodpipax69 | How do you know it is installed? |
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| 11:14.29 | Quodpipax69 | Maybe it needs some other, different version. |
| 11:15.37 | paul` | that could be, I just added security jessie/updated to the sources list this morning |
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| 11:16.03 | paul` | for some reason the guy who provisioned the system had not added it |
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| 11:17.15 | zzz20021 | really really dumb question - I have a fixed IP range nnn.nnn.nnn.176/29 for a long time I set-up my interfaces as eth0 - network ...176, gateway ...177, address ...178, broadcast ...183. Am I doing this wrong? I ask because I lose 3 addresses, 176,177, 183 whereas other people I talk to only lose 2. What should my network set-up look like? |
| 11:17.19 | Quodpipax69 | For old versions you have to search http://pkgs.org/download/systemd-sysv |
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| 11:18.29 | Quodpipax69 | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=systemd |
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| 11:19.29 | shneh | ctmjr: How would I find out? The package search on debian website does not list backports for jessie yet. |
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| 11:21.03 | ctmjr | ,v claws-mail |
| 11:21.04 | judd | Package: claws-mail on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.7.6-4+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.8.1-2; wheezy-backports: 3.10.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.11.1-3; stretch: 3.13.0-1; sid: 3.13.0-1 |
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| 11:21.46 | Lethalman | hello |
| 11:21.51 | Lethalman | I have a systemd service |
| 11:21.52 | ctmjr | it is not in jessie backports |
| 11:21.55 | Lethalman | I've put it in /lib/systemd/system |
| 11:22.14 | Lethalman | now if I do systemctl enable servicename I get an error: Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory |
| 11:22.22 | Lethalman | the problem is that there's no /etc/init.d/servicename |
| 11:22.29 | Lethalman | but I DON'T want an lsb init script |
| 11:22.31 | Lethalman | I only want the systemd service |
| 11:22.47 | shneh | ctmjr: does that mean that there is no way I can get claws-mail 3.13.0-1 from a debian repository onto jessie? |
| 11:22.51 | Lethalman | pretty sure this is one of the 206 patches of debian systemd... so anybody knows how can I workaround this issue? |
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| 11:22.59 | ctmjr | and to search jessie backports use http://backports.debian.org/Packages/ |
| 11:23.02 | misterioso | Hello all, I am reading about the differences between pts and tty. So far I found out that tty is like a "real" terminal and pts is a program that depends on a real terminal |
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| 11:23.20 | misterioso | can someone help me out on this? |
| 11:23.29 | ctmjr | shneh: you can backport it yourself |
| 11:23.44 | misterioso | pointing me to information on this or something |
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| 11:25.08 | shneh | ctmjr: thank you for your help, I'll look into it. |
| 11:25.45 | shneh | btw searching on http://backports.debian.org/Packages/ redirects me to the official debian package search - is that expected? |
| 11:25.50 | paul` | ok, looking closer I guess I shouldn't remove libaudit-common |
| 11:25.52 | paul` | thanks |
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| 11:32.46 | ctmjr | Lethalman: user created service files should go in |
| 11:32.59 | ctmjr | /etc/systemd/system/ |
| 11:33.41 | Lethalman | ctmjr, ok thanks, that doesn't solve the issue though |
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| 11:39.11 | ctmjr | Lethalman: what does "systemctl start servicename.service" output? |
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| 11:40.31 | Lethalman | ctmjr, start works correctly |
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| 11:40.38 | Lethalman | ctmjr, it's enable/disable that tries to find the lsb init script and fails |
| 11:40.58 | Lethalman | ctmjr, filed a bug here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=803373 |
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| 11:44.48 | trewas | Lethalman: the systemd service file should be under /etc/systemd/, not /lib/systemd/, but I don't know if that makes a difference |
| 11:45.02 | Lethalman | trewas, no it doesn't unfortunately |
| 11:45.06 | Lethalman | I've already moved them to /etc |
| 11:45.16 | Lethalman | but enable/disable still tries to find the lsb script, and then fails |
| 11:45.25 | Lethalman | creating an empty lsb init script make enable/disable work |
| 11:45.28 | Lethalman | but I really don't want that |
| 11:45.43 | Lethalman | especially because then I don't know the consequences of autogenerated systemd services from lsb |
| 11:46.04 | Lethalman | so for the time being I'm manually creating links to multi-user.target.wants |
| 11:46.16 | trewas | enable/disable has worked for me without lsb init script in debian 8.something system |
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| 11:46.53 | Lethalman | trewas, oh |
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| 12:55.14 | ZIPY | hi, does someone know how to stream audio/mp3 direct to debian/pulseaudio? |
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| 13:03.30 | jelly | ZIPY: what kind of sink do you have that would accept a raw mp3 stream? |
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| 13:13.05 | ZIPY | jelly: i would prefer to use debian as bluetooth speaker for all sounds of my android phone |
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| 13:13.12 | Psy-Q | how can i prevent my dovecot from listening on port 143 (i.e. enable only imaps, not imap)? |
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| 13:13.35 | Psy-Q | the listening config seems to be distributed in a bunch of files on debian |
| 13:14.15 | ZIPY | currently i can use kodi and stream single mp3s over upnp but it is a little inconvenient |
| 13:14.37 | jelly | ZIPY: sounds specific enough to ask in #pulseaudio |
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| 13:16.03 | ZIPY | yes i think so too. i found some solutions from google, but they wanted to edit /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf which is missing in debian tho |
| 13:16.21 | ZIPY | but i will ask in #pulseaudio then thx |
| 13:16.47 | jelly | dunno anything about bluetooth -- the infrastructure seems to completely change on a yearly basis |
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| 13:17.37 | ZIPY | hehe ok I see |
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| 13:19.17 | matei | hi there |
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| 13:19.58 | matei | is there a way to add key to .ssh/authorized_keys via deb package? |
| 13:20.03 | sisccl | hey, anyone can tell me if Raspbian is based on debian? |
| 13:20.12 | matei | sisccl: yes, it is |
| 13:20.17 | sisccl | bet |
| 13:21.20 | jelly | !raspbian |
| 13:21.21 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 13:22.01 | sisccl | There unfortunately is not a Raspbian option in PuPHPet but if itâs based on Debian that gets me close. So I will be using Debian. |
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| 13:24.52 | NikLP | heyoo. I'm updating to jessie; I depend on my lamp stack. I've got php 5.4, mariadb 5.5, apache 2.2. I understand that apache 2.2 will go to 2.4 and the ramifications of that. |
| 13:25.04 | NikLP | I don't really know what to do about my current php and maria installs tho. |
| 13:25.22 | NikLP | if jessie includes both of these by default, do I have to uninstall them, or leave them alone, or what? |
| 13:25.59 | NikLP | additionally I have maria 5.5 in my sources and that's giving me an error as I try to run the intial apt-get update to jessie, what do I do with that? |
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| 13:33.15 | WangDang | I'm having trouble with ripit. I don't actually want to encode, I just want the wav files. But if I add --noencode to the command line, I don't get an m3u file. Without the --noencode flag, I get an m3u file for the *.ogg files and a separate m3u file for the *.wav's. Anyone know how to fix this? I've already tried the -p flag to no avail |
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| 13:39.34 | NR87z | MY PEOPLE! Good moring all |
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| 13:40.05 | cisco87 | good morning? |
| 13:40.15 | NR87z | well, For me it's the morning |
| 13:40.29 | ewew | cisco87 timezones. |
| 13:40.36 | NR87z | and I am just now logging |
| 13:40.37 | NR87z | in |
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| 13:40.41 | NR87z | so 'that's cool |
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| 13:43.31 | withextrasalt | Hello, I'm running debian testing and yesterday I updated my system with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. After a while I turned off the computer and when i turned it back on I was no longer able log in kde (plasma 5). I logged in using gnome, however several of my kde aplications do not start. After some research i found this: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-rc@lists.debian.org/msg403284.html that seems recent and describes something |
| 13:43.31 | withextrasalt | very similar to what is happening in my pc. Does anyone know how can i solve this? |
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| 13:46.40 | cisc | withextrasalt: ~/.cache/ directory can get corrupted, also ~/.kde folder could have old files from old KDE version |
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| 13:49.17 | withextrasalt | cisc: ok, i will try to remove the cache and rename the .kde folder, and give it a try. thanks for the tip. |
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| 13:50.04 | cisc | withextrasalt: sure, gl |
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| 13:51.41 | NR87z | Does anyone in the room have experience with X2GO on Debian 7? |
| 13:52.03 | NR87z | I'd be grateful for any assistance getting it running, need to do some certificate work |
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| 13:56.06 | withextrasalt | cisc: well, no luck with that solution :S |
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| 13:58.11 | cisc | withextrasalt: was worth a shot |
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| 13:59.15 | cisc | withextrasalt: i don't run any DE on my Debian box, and Plasma 5 is far from stable, and it's Debian testing, so.. I don't know what your issue is but you could check dmesg & journalctl |
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| 13:59.57 | cisc | `dmesg -w` |
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| 14:01.42 | withextrasalt | yes, I understand, i'm aware of the risks and issues of using testing. I'm just trying to understand what goind on and how can be solved. |
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| 14:04.40 | mihapiha | Hello guys, I have a problem with my debian. When I login, it takes like 25 secods for the password promt to pop up. I am talking about SSH. I have googled and tryed the fix with USEDNS no |
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| 14:25.58 | particleman72 | question for KDE users is it safe to unhold libqt5x11extras5 yet? |
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| 14:27.00 | Ticho | there isn't any new version, so I'd say not |
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| 14:30.24 | Ticho | the fixed package seems to be in unstable, though, since yesterday |
| 14:30.39 | particleman72 | thats good news |
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| 14:31.53 | ewew | mihapiha can you ping the target host ? |
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| 14:35.54 | HebusLeTroll | Hello, how can i mount (as normal user) a windows cifs volume *after* log in (i use xfce as DE if that matter) please ? |
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| 14:48.15 | Doxin | so how am I supposed to install kicad? apt-get tells me it has been replaced with kicad-common, but that doesn't include the binary. |
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| 14:51.34 | jelly | ,v kicad |
| 14:51.36 | judd | Package: kicad on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.0.20100314-1; wheezy: 0.20120526+bzr3261-1; wheezy-backports: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3; sid: 0.20141025+bzr4029-2 |
| 14:52.00 | jelly | dpkg, tell Doxin about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 14:52.36 | Stummi | hm, in my book kicad seems to be a normal pacakge, nothing replaced or something |
| 14:52.41 | Stummi | ~$ apt-file search bin/kicad |
| 14:52.43 | Stummi | kicad: /usr/bin/kicad |
| 14:53.39 | Doxin | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e196f300/ http://paste.debian.net/318733/ http://paste.debian.net/318734/ |
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| 14:53.55 | greycat | I'm guessing Doxin is not running a stable release of Debian. |
| 14:54.08 | greycat | notice what's missing in judd's output up there |
| 14:54.17 | Doxin | I'm on testing with a hint of unstable. |
| 14:54.30 | greycat | Hint: what's missing in judd's output was "stretch" |
| 14:55.41 | Bittarman | ok... I've got hhvm and I need to run multiple demons for it... I've duplicated the init.d scripts, and changed the pid files for them, and the correct pid files get updated with the correct values when the demons start |
| 14:55.53 | Bittarman | but when I restart, all of the hhvm demons get killed.... |
| 14:56.01 | Bittarman | any ideas what I'm missing? |
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| 14:56.27 | jelly | Doxin: you don't have any sources for unstable configured. |
| 14:56.33 | Bittarman | im fairly sure the problems in the start-stop-demon stuff, but not sure where, as the PIDfiles are properly configured. |
| 14:56.33 | Stummi | Doxin, you don't have sid |
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| 14:56.44 | jelly | dpkg, tell Doxin about debian-next |
| 14:56.47 | jelly | dpkg, tell Doxin about tum |
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| 14:56.50 | Stummi | Doxin, aka unstable. Add sid or unstable to your repositories |
| 14:56.52 | Doxin | oh |
| 14:56.55 | jelly | dpkg, tell Doxin about why is kicad not in testing |
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| 14:57.31 | Doxin | jelly: okay so, how do I get kicad then? |
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| 14:57.49 | jelly | Doxin: read what dpkg told you in the private messages, first |
| 14:57.50 | Stummi | Doxin, from sid |
| 14:57.55 | greycat | Doxin: the instructions in "/msg dpkg tum" looked clear enough to me. Anyone who's fucking with testing or unstable should be able to do that. |
| 14:58.16 | Doxin | so I get kicad from unstable is the advice here? |
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| 14:58.35 | greycat | It's either that, or jessie's. Because it's not currently IN testing. |
| 14:58.37 | greycat | As judd told us. |
| 14:58.38 | Stummi | if you have testing, yes. Pinning packages from unstable into testing is perfectly fine |
| 14:58.45 | jelly | Doxin: yes, and here is the suboptimal place to get advice about testing |
| 14:58.46 | Doxin | alright |
| 15:01.02 | Smither | hey, I'm trying to set up an ircd + hybserv server on my debian system, byt hybserv is not connecting. And when i look at the logs they're basically useless, http://pastebin.com/04MEAc5A . I have googled everything i can think of and have tripple checked the configs for both ircd and hybserv, both services are running fine, all the necessary ports are open (confirmed by netstat). I have no idea what else to check. or |
| 15:01.02 | Smither | what the problem could even be. Any help please? |
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| 15:01.52 | Doxin | jelly: now I'm getting "Depends: libwxbase3.0-0 (>= 3.0.2) but it is not going to be installed" |
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| 15:03.03 | DJ___ | @Doxin Yeah good luck Dependancy problems can be a bitch. Try apt-get -f install |
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| 15:04.23 | DJ___ | @Doxin let us know if that works for you, alternatively you could download the package and install it individually |
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| 15:08.51 | jelly | Doxin: yeah well, welcome to testing |
| 15:09.14 | Doxin | yeah :P |
| 15:09.22 | Doxin | well, got it working by removing some other packages |
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| 15:09.32 | jelly | ask in the right channel, see if anyone has better clues |
| 15:09.42 | shawn | Sometimes all you have to do is wait a few days |
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| 15:10.30 | shawn | Confucius said |
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| 15:14.27 | ikanobori | Hi, I am trying to install tzdata-java on my jessie system; however it depends on tzdata 2015f-0+deb8u1 - tzdata (5 2015f-0+deb8u1) while the version of tzdata in jessie is 2015g-0+deb7u1. |
| 15:14.37 | ikanobori | Is this something I can override myself or do I need to contact its maintainer? |
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| 15:14.42 | greycat | ,v tzdata-java |
| 15:14.44 | judd | Package: tzdata-java on amd64 -- squeeze: 2014e-0squeeze1; wheezy: 2015f-0+deb7u1; jessie: 2015f-0+deb8u1; squeeze-security-lts: 2015g-0+deb6u1; wheezy-updates: 2015g-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2015g-0+deb7u1; jessie-updates: 2015g-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2015g-0+deb8u1; sid: 2015g-1; stretch: 2015g-1 |
| 15:15.05 | greycat | you're missing one of the jessie sources (the one with updates in it) |
| 15:15.19 | ikanobori | Let me check. |
| 15:15.42 | jelly | the one that used to be called "volatile" before someone decided to overload the word "updates" with more meaning |
| 15:16.11 | ikanobori | You are correct, thank you :) |
| 15:16.15 | jelly | oh, it's in proposed-updates, too |
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| 15:18.15 | ikanobori | Oh I remember volatile. I just didn't think package versions in stable only would depend on stable-updates :) |
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| 15:19.53 | jelly | the discrepancy between versions of tzdata and tzdata-java is technically a bug, but it will be fixed when the next point release pushes the -java one into main repo |
| 15:20.12 | jelly | in the meantime you have to work around it |
| 15:20.13 | ikanobori | Yes, I understand. |
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| 15:25.51 | gnat_x | hi folks, i am setting up a debian router. and need a hand getting an iptables setting right. |
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| 15:27.16 | gnat_x | i want to open up a subnet (192.168.60.0/24) to a range of public ip addresses (for the phone system) |
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| 15:27.36 | jomofcw | Hello ! |
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| 15:27.42 | jomofcw | Will a cp follow symlink ? |
| 15:27.54 | gnat_x | jomofcw: it should. |
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| 15:28.21 | gnat_x | jomofcw: assumiung you mean cp -r |
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| 15:28.23 | jomofcw | Mouarf I've done a huge mistake so :/. |
| 15:28.45 | ksk | jomofcw: take a look at "man cp", especially -l and -P |
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| 15:29.15 | jomofcw | Hm it seems that it doesn't in fact. |
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| 15:29.25 | dfda | Hello, is there anyway to hide the openrc boot? |
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| 15:29.28 | dfda | The logs I mean |
| 15:29.56 | gnat_x | so far i have iptables -A INPUT -p udp -s xx.xx.xx.xx/27 --dport 69 -j ACCEPT and then iptables -A FORWARD -d 192.168.60.0/24 -p udp -m udp --dport 69 -j ACCEPT |
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| 15:30.35 | gnat_x | my worry is that the INPUT rule is not properly scoped to limit the access from those ips to just the phones' subnet. |
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| 15:30.57 | Bombo | hi |
| 15:31.49 | Bombo | i got a 'ri gnupg' in dpkg -l, i tried to remove it, how can i reset the r flag? i tried with dpkg-reconfigure gnupg, but didn't help |
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| 15:32.09 | greycat | start with "dpkg --configure -a" and see how that goes |
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| 15:34.24 | Bombo | greycat: package gnupg is already installed and configured |
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| 15:36.12 | greycat | So what are you trying to do with it? Purge it? |
| 15:37.03 | Bombo | no keep it |
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| 15:37.40 | Bombo | i was trying to remove it, because there is gnupg2, but several deb tools depend on it |
| 15:38.05 | greycat | Sounds like you just need to tell dpkg/aptitude that you no longer want to remove it. |
| 15:38.13 | greycat | I'm not sure how you told it you wanted to remove it in the first place. |
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| 15:38.23 | Bombo | yes, that. |
| 15:38.31 | Bombo | 'dpkg -r gnupg' |
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| 15:39.20 | Bombo | complains 'dependency problems - not removing' |
| 15:39.43 | Bombo | but the ri is still there |
| 15:39.46 | greycat | well stop telling it to remove! |
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| 15:40.32 | Bombo | it won't go anyway ;) |
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| 15:40.59 | jelly | Bombo: apt-get install gnupg" will tell the package management system you want it |
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| 15:41.34 | Bombo | jelly: gnupg is already the newest version. |
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| 15:42.04 | Bombo | jelly: ri gnupg 1.4.18-7 |
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| 15:42.36 | Bombo | jelly: it is installed, there is just that r flag still.. |
| 15:43.44 | jelly | ,v gnupg |
| 15:43.45 | judd | Package: gnupg on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.4.10-4+squeeze4; squeeze: 1.4.10-4+squeeze4; squeeze-security-lts: 1.4.10-4+squeeze7; wheezy-security: 1.4.12-7+deb7u7; wheezy: 1.4.12-7+deb7u7; jessie: 1.4.18-7; stretch: 1.4.19-6; sid: 1.4.19-6 |
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| 15:44.39 | jelly | Bombo: oh well. Be low level then, echo gnupg install | dpkg --set-selections |
| 15:45.24 | LordShadowWing | is running Jessie |
| 15:45.31 | Bombo | jelly: ha! thx ;) now it's ii again |
| 15:45.46 | Bombo | feels better ;) |
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| 16:01.21 | PsynoKhi0 | greetings, I'm setting up a Jessie server to act as an OpenVPN bridge (for roadwarriors) on an OpenStack IaaS, with 2 eth interfaces on distinct subnets without routing inbetween, each interface having its own floating IP. eth0 is the "management/SSH" interface that should only be accessible from our office's public IP, and eth1 is to be used for the VPN bridge interface. eth0 is set as the default gatew |
| 16:01.27 | PsynoKhi0 | ay for now, and I'd like to change that to eth1, and set use ip route to set eth0 as the gateway for traffic back to our office's IP. I wonder however if the VPN traffic initiating from our office will also try to return passing through eth0 |
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| 16:01.47 | Jaga-Jaga | is there any simple (preferable command line) tool to cut an mp3? like from 00:05:15 to 00:07:45 |
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| 16:02.42 | PsynoKhi0 | Jaga-Jaga: ffmpeg might do the trick |
| 16:03.12 | Jaga-Jaga | PsynoKhi0: yeah i know it can split, but can i set the specific second ? |
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| 16:06.10 | PsynoKhi0 | Jaga-Jaga: I've only done a quick search based on a hunch, but: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 -acodec copy -t <length in hh:mm:ss format> -ss <start in hh:mm:ss format> output.mp3 |
| 16:06.26 | PsynoKhi0 | if I understood correctly |
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| 16:06.48 | PsynoKhi0 | otherwise audacity if you fancy a gui, not sure it has a cli |
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| 16:07.49 | JyZyXEL | im able to make whole Xorg crash on jessie with audacity :P |
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| 16:08.10 | Jaga-Jaga | PsynoKhi0: ok thx |
| 16:08.23 | PsynoKhi0 | JyZyXEL: that's literally "going out with a BANG"? |
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| 16:08.55 | JyZyXEL | just freezes dead |
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| 16:09.27 | JyZyXEL | probably something to do with the blocking nature of xorg |
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| 16:11.58 | IanWizard | I'm here, finally. I finally left Ubu for Fed, and after several months I've left Fed for Debian. Yay. Life just isn't right without a debian system. |
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| 16:12.11 | IanWizard | #neveragain |
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| 16:32.17 | IanWizard | Curious, is there a goto unofficial repo that I should add? When I went to Fedora it was RPMFusion, is there an equivelant for debian that has all the things debian won't package directly? |
| 16:32.55 | IanWizard | I added contrib and non-free, but things like FF aren't in them, and other niceties. |
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| 16:33.22 | greycat | Debian packages firefox as "iceweasel" due to license requirements. |
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| 16:33.51 | greycat | If you want it to be named "Firefox", just download the binaries from mozilla.com directly. |
| 16:34.27 | IanWizard | greycat: Yes, but IIRC, there are something that (due to licensing) can't support, particularly codec wise. |
| 16:35.35 | IanWizard | Perhaps I'm mistaken or misinformed. If so I'm more than happy to use IceWeasle, I always preferred it's mascot anyway. |
| 16:35.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | at night, the ice weasels come. |
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| 16:36.00 | polyphagia | no IanWizard |
| 16:36.05 | polyphagia | there's nothing iceweasel can't do |
| 16:36.08 | polyphagia | you can install all the codecs |
| 16:36.32 | polyphagia | it's the same thing just with the rebranding and i don't think it includes ads and pocket |
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| 16:37.31 | polyphagia | IanWizard: get these packages if you don't already have them and you should be fine gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-plugins-good |
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| 16:40.55 | IanWizard | NoImNotNineVolt: lol. I'm going to start saying that everytime I hear it mentioned around me. :P |
| 16:41.34 | IanWizard | polyphagia: you're right, I was just reading and it's just a trademark issue with Mozilla, which, is slightly surprising given how open they are (most of the time). |
| 16:41.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | :) |
| 16:41.56 | IanWizard | And yeah, I have the various gstreamer stuffs installed. TY |
| 16:42.32 | polyphagia | yeah IanWizard it's not completely unreasonable of them |
| 16:42.54 | polyphagia | because even debian has trademarks on its official logos |
| 16:43.06 | polyphagia | and google did the two program model instead to protect their trademark |
| 16:43.19 | polyphagia | it does 'protect' mozilla from scammers and malware from legally using their logos |
| 16:43.20 | polyphagia | and names |
| 16:43.32 | polyphagia | or any other sort of shadyware |
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| 16:44.45 | IanWizard | Yeah. I completely understand it, but I've been pleasantly surprised in the past to see FOSS projects backed by orgs that say "Use our logo if you like, just not for bad things", and with stipulations that they can make you stop. |
| 16:44.56 | ewew | offtopic ? |
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| 16:50.56 | jomofcw | Installing MariaDb on a Debian Jessie (following this tutorial : http://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/), I've got this error : http://paste.debian.net/318754/ |
| 16:51.01 | jomofcw | Any idea how to fix it please :s ? |
| 16:51.07 | jomofcw | Running aptitude ? |
| 16:52.14 | greycat | a tutorial to install a package? |
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| 16:52.33 | jomofcw | ... i'm a newbie :D And mariaDb look kinda strange for me :/. |
| 16:52.53 | jomofcw | So I would like to get a tutorial yea :x. Anyway, the problem is that it perform an error :/. |
| 16:52.55 | somiaj | the tutorial is about adding some ubuntu repo it seems, or some repo for sid in jessie. |
| 16:53.09 | somiaj | jomofcw: your problem is that tutorial sucks. You should not be installing packages made for sid inside of jessie. |
| 16:53.14 | greycat | jomofcw: oh dear god. Your error message says sid in it. |
| 16:53.16 | greycat | This is very bad. |
| 16:53.18 | jomofcw | Yup, the MariaDB one on the latest version, I've checked |
| 16:53.29 | somiaj | the tutorial has him add this repo add-apt-repository 'deb http://mariadb.biz.net.id//repo/10.1/debian sid main' |
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| 16:53.39 | jomofcw | Oh god xD How can I remobve this ? |
| 16:53.40 | somiaj | we do not support third party repos, and this is why. That repo is not designed to work with debian jessie. |
| 16:53.40 | greycat | Undo all of it, if you can. |
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| 16:53.56 | somiaj | most likely just errored out before anything was installed, just remove teh repo fomr your sources.list |
| 16:54.10 | jomofcw | OK, I can do that :) |
| 16:54.13 | greycat | Remove the repository you added, remove those mariadb packages, re-run apt-get update, and just install the version of mariadb that is in jessie. |
| 16:54.20 | jomofcw | And then... how can I install mariaDB :x ? Is it oon the debian repo ? |
| 16:54.24 | greycat | yes |
| 16:54.29 | jakeFat | what is difference between jdk7 at oracle site and OpenJDK in debian repos? I am just gonna go with the one in the repo then. |
| 16:54.54 | jomofcw | OK, thanks for your help, ,I try. |
| 16:55.01 | somiaj | seems that tutorial was written for when jessie was testing and since then their sid repo has drifted. See if they provdie a jessie repo. Again we won't suppor that either, but it is more likely to work if they make it for jessie |
| 16:55.16 | jakeFat | openjdk-7-jdk |
| 16:55.36 | jomofcw | miracle, it install it from debian repo :D... I'm a dumb newbie :/. |
| 16:55.41 | somiaj | jakeFat: the openJDK part is the same as the one provided by oracle (well could be an older version). But this is different than their orcale jdk7 which contains additional stuff that is not open. |
| 16:56.07 | jakeFat | somiaj, thx |
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| 16:56.36 | somiaj | jakeFat: there are differences. They are mostly small now, but some java software won't run correclty on openJDK and you need the non-free JDK from java. If this is the case I suggest using java-package but installing java in /usr/local works just fine to. |
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| 16:57.12 | greycat | jomofcw: everyone starts as a newbie |
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| 16:57.46 | jomofcw | greycat ;). Anyway, it works, thanks to you and to somiaj :). |
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| 16:58.44 | jakeFat | somiaj, do you have any experience, how about for using Android Studio? Also, so I should just copy javac program to /usr/local -it is moot at the moment cause I am install openjdk-7-jdk package, but if you know off hand I can make a note for future reference |
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| 17:00.19 | somiaj | jakeFat: no experince with andriod studio. java should come as a compress .bin from oracle that extracts to a directory, java-whatever-version, just copy that whole directory to /usr/local and then either add the bins to your path or make links in /usr/local/bin (that is how I use to do it back when it was sun-java) |
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| 17:00.36 | somiaj | jakeFat: but look at the debian pacakge 'java-package', these are tools to make a custom .deb from oracles java you can just isntall with dpkg |
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| 17:01.39 | jakeFat | somiaj, thx much |
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| 17:19.30 | PsynoKhi0 | greetings, I'm setting up a Jessie server to act as an OpenVPN bridge (for roadwarriors) on an OpenStack IaaS, with 2 eth interfaces on distinct subnets without routing inbetween, each interface having its own floating IP. eth0 is the "management/SSH" interface that should only be accessible from our office's public IP, and eth1 is to be used for the VPN bridge interface. eth0 is set as the default gatew |
| 17:19.36 | PsynoKhi0 | ay for now, and I'd like to change that to eth1, and set use ip route to set eth0 as the gateway for traffic back to our office's IP. I wonder however if the VPN traffic initiating from our office will also try to return passing through eth0, is my theory valid? |
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| 17:23.27 | NR87z | I love how no one answers people who have legitimate technical questions. dis cray cray |
| 17:23.49 | greycat | We are not experts in every field of human endeavor. |
| 17:24.09 | NR87z | YOU SHOULD BE GREYCAT |
| 17:24.17 | greycat | Yeah, I'll get right on that. |
| 17:24.25 | abrotman | NR87z: knock it off, if you need help, just ask |
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| 17:24.29 | NR87z | YOU THINK THE INTERNET IS HERE FOR REQULAR HUMAN BEINGS!? |
| 17:24.47 | NR87z | I kid I kid, The room is just so quiet |
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| 17:25.53 | beergear | PsynoKhi0: PsynoKhi0 yes traffic will return to eth0 from what I read breifly there, but don't take my word for it. Go look at some tcpdump output! |
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| 17:26.48 | beergear | you might also have better luck asking in ##networking |
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| 17:28.02 | PsynoKhi0 | beergear: ok thanks, I asked here first since the routing would be set up on the Debian server with "ip route" |
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| 17:29.15 | IanWizard | ewew: in a quiet (at the time) room, discussing FOSS, licensing, and copyright, specifically in the context of debian.... I think it's fine. |
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| 17:29.40 | IanWizard | Though I haven't been in here in years, so maybe it's stricter than I remember. |
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| 17:30.50 | beergear | PsynoKhi0: *nods* they should know it over there. I just notice people don't get nearly as much help in off-topicish rooms. |
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| 17:53.06 | k_j | hi |
| 17:53.23 | k_j | is there a way to see the copyright files before installing a debian package? |
| 17:53.36 | greycat | should be on packages.debian.org |
| 17:53.49 | k_j | greycat, i meant to say a .deb generally |
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| 17:53.54 | k_j | in general |
| 17:54.08 | greycat | e.g. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/bash => "Copyright File" |
| 17:54.08 | k_j | from the .deb itself |
| 17:54.27 | greycat | you want to extract a single file from a .deb and display it? |
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| 17:54.53 | k_j | yes, i thought there was a built-in way to do this |
| 17:55.15 | k_j | i mean...somebody gives me a .deb, how can i see that file before installing |
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| 17:55.35 | greycat | you could write a script to extract the data.tar.gz file from the .deb and then extract the copyright file from the data.tar.gz file |
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| 17:55.59 | k_j | greycat, but there is no way to do just that with deb tools? |
| 17:56.14 | greycat | If you can find a quicker way, more power to you. |
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| 17:59.47 | greycat | k_j: here, this worked: ar p telnet_0.17-36_amd64.deb data.tar.gz | tar xzO --wildcards -f - './usr/share/doc/*/copyright' |
| 18:00.11 | k_j | thx |
| 18:00.33 | greycat | won't work on super-old deb files that had /usr/doc/ but hopefully you won't need that |
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| 18:05.27 | grauzikas | Hello, there is any easy way to add NetXtreme II driver to debian PXE image? how i know i was removed some time ago (may be in newer version it was added?) |
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| 18:09.08 | ewew | grauzikas It looks like you need to create your own image. Not sure how to add it. |
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| 18:09.49 | ewew | grauzikas you can look here for info https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify |
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| 18:12.58 | grauzikas | ewew thank you ill try this |
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| 18:13.39 | ewew | grauzikas I did not try this. |
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| 18:24.49 | HebusLeTroll | Hello, is there a standard way to launch a script when xfce session starts/ends ? Or do I have to do this kind of thing : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7579438/how-to-execute-a-script-when-xfce-session-ends |
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| 18:26.40 | icecream | Hello |
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| 18:26.58 | icecream | Is it possible to install Debian via iPXE chainloads? |
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| 18:32.45 | zammy | hello I have just some problem now as I just installed debian on my laptop |
| 18:32.57 | zammy | there is no wireless detected |
| 18:33.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell zammy about firmware netinst |
| 18:33.59 | zammy | how should I do that? |
| 18:34.09 | zammy | Oh I see now |
| 18:34.29 | greycat | If you also have an ethernet jack, you can use that to download the firmware packages. |
| 18:34.47 | zammy | yes I am by eth now |
| 18:35.21 | zammy | I looked for firmware in synaptic and seems the package are already installed |
| 18:35.28 | abrotman | WHICH WIFI device? |
| 18:35.30 | abrotman | damn capslock |
| 18:35.41 | zammy | my laptop |
| 18:36.08 | abrotman | yes ... lspci -nn | grep -i net .. what is the device? |
| 18:36.10 | zammy | it's old laptop though ... hp510 |
| 18:37.59 | zammy | 02:04.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection [8086:4220] (rev 05) |
| 18:38.00 | zammy | 02:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection [8086:1092] (rev 03) |
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| 18:38.24 | zammy | so did it detect it at the end |
| 18:38.39 | abrotman | that's detected, but you need firmware |
| 18:38.47 | abrotman | the package is firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 18:39.18 | greycat | ,pci-id 8086:4220 |
| 18:39.19 | judd | [8086:4220] is 'PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'ipw2200', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4220 http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 |
| 18:39.31 | abrotman | !ipw2200 |
| 18:39.31 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a Linux kernel driver supporting Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 (802.11bg) and 2915 (802.11a/bg) devices. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-ipw2x00 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:39.37 | abrotman | oh, wrong package :( |
| 18:39.39 | zammy | one thing at a time |
| 18:39.48 | greycat | zammy: you need the firmware-ipw2x00 package |
| 18:40.15 | zammy | hey anyway don't make me crazt |
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| 18:40.24 | zammy | no match in synaptic |
| 18:40.35 | greycat | You have to add non-free to your sources.list, and apt-get update. |
| 18:40.43 | zammy | alright |
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| 18:43.02 | zammy | I must add manually the non-free repository |
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| 18:43.28 | greycat | in /etc/apt/sources.list where it says " main " change it to " main contrib non-free " |
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| 18:43.58 | greycat | (or " main" apparently) |
| 18:44.06 | zammy | I don't have it |
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| 18:45.02 | zammy | I reached sources.list and watched in there... that you mention there is not |
| 18:45.32 | zammy | can I have it from you |
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| 18:45.35 | zammy | which line is it |
| 18:45.41 | greycat | lordy... if you did an install without any working network then you may have a totally stupid sources.list and it may be easier to nuke it and start fresh |
| 18:45.47 | greycat | !jessie sources.list |
| 18:45.47 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 18:46.04 | greycat | I don't know why the installer does that. |
| 18:46.07 | zammy | I used eth to install debian |
| 18:46.32 | zammy | btw I am no lordy |
| 18:47.44 | greycat | so, use the lines the bot said, but replace "main" with "main contrib non-free" in each case |
| 18:48.26 | zammy | right |
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| 18:50.42 | zammy | all the three lines the same contrib non-free |
| 18:50.43 | zammy | right? |
| 18:51.06 | greycat | yes, they should all end with "main contrib non-free" |
| 18:51.12 | zammy | yes |
| 18:51.14 | zammy | that |
| 18:51.16 | zammy | alright done |
| 18:51.30 | greycat | apt-get update ; apt-get install firmware-ipw2x00 |
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| 18:55.02 | mallardest | How can I check if a package from experimental is supported on stretch? |
| 18:55.19 | greycat | Nothing is supported on stretch at all. It's called "testing" for a reason. |
| 18:55.27 | mallardest | I mean, if I am able to install it. |
| 18:55.50 | greycat | Experimental is "if you have to ask, you can't". |
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| 19:03.21 | benaiah | mallardest: do you have a stretch system? if so, you could apt-cache find |
| 19:03.39 | benaiah | I don't know the best place to look if you're just on the web |
| 19:04.24 | KjetilK | It isn't very clear what the participating machines are in this text: https://wiki.debian.org/MediaWiki#Moving_mediawiki_to_another_server_.28.3Darchiving.2B-restoring.29 |
| 19:04.49 | KjetilK | if anybody understands it clearly, it would be nice if it was improved :-) |
| 19:05.45 | KjetilK | So, would it be correct to say that "server" is the old machine, server2 is the new machine and localhost is a third machine, possibly the admin's own box? |
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| 19:07.48 | zammy | error |
| 19:07.50 | zammy | idk why |
| 19:07.54 | zammy | wait a moment |
| 19:07.55 | user1 | Hello. You guys knows what could be the reason there is packages likes drupal7, mysql-*, apache2, php5 (automatically) installed (and for some, running) on my debian desktop box ? Can I remove them safely if I don't know why I could need them for ? |
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| 19:08.59 | zammy | oh I agreed now |
| 19:09.04 | greycat | The most likely reason is that, at some point, someone selected the "web server" task in tasksel. |
| 19:09.05 | zammy | I installed by cli |
| 19:09.13 | zammy | it's cool apt colors btw |
| 19:09.16 | zammy | thanks debian support |
| 19:09.31 | zammy | well now that I installed that firmware |
| 19:10.01 | zammy | shall I reboot the debian? |
| 19:10.49 | KjetilK | user1, yeah, that sounds weird, you shouldn't need them |
| 19:10.55 | zammy | by |
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| 19:11.30 | user1 | greycat: I don't remember doing that... I installed and use an ssh and ftp server on my box but that's it |
| 19:11.52 | greycat | If you don't want them, remove them. |
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| 19:14.19 | user1 | greycat: KjetilK: Anyway, if a program I use depend on those packages, aptitude should warn me about it when I remove them right ? |
| 19:14.51 | KjetilK | user1, yeah |
| 19:15.09 | KjetilK | it is a good idea to check if there is anything you want when it prompts you |
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| 19:21.31 | user1 | ok, purge done. Don't feel I miss something now :) |
| 19:21.49 | greycat | If something breaks, you can always reinstall it. |
| 19:21.54 | user1 | yes |
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| 19:32.11 | JunoReactor | how to make my debian to look like this: http://i3wm.org/screenshots/i3-5.png |
| 19:32.23 | JunoReactor | how to instal this GUI? |
| 19:32.34 | greycat | based on the URL I would guess it's i3 |
| 19:32.36 | ArtooDetoo | looks like i3wm |
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| 19:33.06 | JunoReactor | yes its window manager, but if i install this on my debian, it doesnt starts, so i am not sure how to get this result |
| 19:33.13 | JunoReactor | what i have to install before i3? |
| 19:33.26 | tharkun | How can I tap into the video feed of mylaptops video camera. I accidentally took a picture with it using xsane. |
| 19:33.40 | greycat | It may be more a matter of selecting an i3wm session instead of whatever kind of session you're currently using. |
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| 19:34.08 | JunoReactor | for example do i need to install xorg or something? i have pure netinst debian currently |
| 19:34.12 | greycat | Do you run startx by hand, or are you using one of the *dm logins? |
| 19:34.20 | greycat | Yes, you would need xorg. |
| 19:34.40 | JunoReactor | xorg is enough to install i3? |
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| 19:35.08 | greycat | Apt will automatically grab whatever is strictly *needed*. |
| 19:35.08 | apt | okay, greycat |
| 19:35.13 | ArtooDetoo | :D |
| 19:35.25 | greycat | apt, forget will automatically grab whatever |
| 19:35.25 | apt | i forgot will automatically grab whatever, greycat |
| 19:35.34 | greycat | stupid bots. |
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| 19:38.25 | greycat | "apt-get install xorg i3" should be enough for you to login, run startx, and have an i3 session, but you probably also want a terminal emulator, a web browser, and so on. |
| 19:38.45 | JunoReactor | oh just a second i try this |
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| 19:42.21 | JunoReactor | greycat, ah heh finaly i could make this work, i was struggling with ratpoison, and i wanted it to be looking like i3 and cool stuff like this, but i could only have terminal and nothing else there, but this i3 works now |
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| 19:45.30 | JunoReactor | #i3 |
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| 19:49.31 | Nirvash | Any idea why my swap usage would be 78%, but my RAM usage is only 60%? |
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| 19:49.50 | greycat | because something big just exited and freed up a chunk of RAM |
| 19:50.08 | Nirvash | So swap is used when a process ends? |
| 19:50.11 | greycat | No. |
| 19:50.19 | greycat | Swap is used ALL THE TIME whenever necessary. |
| 19:50.34 | greycat | But RAM is *FREED* when a process exits. |
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| 19:50.54 | Nirvash | Ah, gotcha! Read that incorrectly. What would cause my usage to stay that way for hours on end? |
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| 19:51.03 | greycat | Which part? |
| 19:51.25 | greycat | Overall the answer is "you need more RAM". |
| 19:51.48 | greycat | unless that 78% swap usage is, like, 78% of 1 MB or something... |
| 19:51.53 | Nirvash | I found out last night that a process I use for IRC is getting shut down because of OOM every Thursday. I checked my usage last night before restarting and it was hovering at 78-80% SWAP and 60-70% RAM. |
| 19:52.11 | greycat | If your swap partition is of any reasonable size, that is a LOT of swap. |
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| 19:55.20 | greycat | In top, if you press Shift-M it will sort processes by memory usage. |
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| 19:56.27 | Nirvash | greycat -- I checked htop last night and Shout (my IRC) uses virtually all of the memory. I just don't know what's running on Thursday/Friday and tipping it over the edge. |
| 19:56.39 | Nirvash | This is also a VM container. |
| 19:56.52 | karlpinc | Nirvash: Maybe it's leaking memory. |
| 19:57.11 | greycat | If the memory usage keeps going steadily up and up and up... then yes, it is probably a leak. |
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| 19:58.46 | Nirvash | That's a definite possibility. It's hovering at 70% right now. |
| 19:58.55 | Nirvash | Is there an "easy" way to test if it's leaking? Other than waiting and watching? |
| 20:00.35 | greycat | If memory leaks were easy to spot and fix, there wouldn't be so many. |
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| 20:02.04 | greycat | You'll probably have to continue this discussion with the maintainers of your IRC program, or whatever addons you're using that may be the source of the leak. |
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| 20:03.11 | HebusLeTroll | Hello, i'm mounting a cifs share using /etc/fstab but shutdown/reboot it very long if i don't umount it before. How can i fix this please? |
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| 20:19.13 | Jaga-Jaga | my wlan0 drops randomly, here is dmesg https://paste.debian.net/318782/ |
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| 20:25.19 | p8m | HebusLeTroll: Do you use networkmanager ? It may be shutting down the network before the shares are unmounted. |
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| 20:26.22 | HebusLeTroll | p8m: how do i know which network manager i'm using ? (so for the noobness...) |
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| 20:26.45 | greycat | NetworkManager is a single thing, which either is or isn't being used. |
| 20:27.10 | greycat | ps auxw | grep Manager |
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| 20:29.10 | HebusLeTroll | yes i'm using it, is it possible (and not too complex) to replace it by netctl ? i've read that the later doesn't have this issue |
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| 20:29.52 | greycat | has found it on one of his machines... probably not coincidentally, it is the only machine I've installed with a Desktop Environment chosen during install |
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| 20:32.25 | teraflops | HebusLeTroll: there is no netctl, this is debian not archlinux and even in arch netctl is crap |
| 20:32.30 | p8m | HebusLeTroll: Is this a machine that you will be moving between networks (a laptop maybe) ? |
| 20:33.13 | p8m | You could just setup the network in /etc/network/interfaces and remove networkmanager |
| 20:33.21 | HebusLeTroll | yes a netbook |
| 20:34.50 | HebusLeTroll | p8m i try that thanks |
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| 20:35.55 | Sallos | Hi, I am getting im getting terriable wifi speeds on my new atheros based WLAN card (10-20Mbps). However, the gnome settings menu it shows that I have a 'Good' signal strength and a link speed of 86 Mb/s. What can I fix this issue? |
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| 20:38.07 | Brigo | Sallos, i think the only thing you can change is the kernel. You can try another one from backports. |
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| 20:39.32 | p8m | Sallos: Numbers reported by wifi drivers like signal strength are not necessarily trustworthy. How are you measuring the wifi speed? |
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| 20:42.31 | teraflops | Sallos: also check your ap settings, may be the channel is just the worst |
| 20:42.33 | Sallos | p8m: With an Internet speed testing website. |
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| 20:44.03 | Sallos | teraflops: I have a notebook which shows a much higher speed so I assumed the channel has not an issue, but ill try. |
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| 20:45.51 | dun3 | oh hi! |
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| 20:46.58 | teraflops | Sallos: oh nvm then unless they have the very same wifi nic and driver |
| 20:47.27 | teraflops | Sallos: I used to have that issue with ath9k time ago |
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| 20:52.26 | HebusLeTroll | p8m: it works \o/ thanks |
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| 20:55.45 | gabrielb374k | hello guys |
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| 20:56.37 | dun3 | gabrielb374k: hi! |
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| 20:57.37 | gabrielb374k | how are you dun3 |
| 20:57.42 | gabrielb374k | :D |
| 20:57.44 | gabrielb374k | ? |
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| 21:02.16 | commux8 | !help systemd |
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| 21:02.48 | commux8 | how to request a help topic that is about migrating from systemd to sysv ? |
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| 21:04.02 | peterrooney_ | dpkg: listkeys systemd |
| 21:04.04 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'systemd' by key (8): systemd ;; systemd debugging ;; why systemd ;; remove systemd ;; /etc/init.d systemd ;; systemd ranting ;; systemd-shim ;; systemd paranoia. |
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| 21:05.07 | captainchris | hi guys |
| 21:06.06 | greycat | You may want /msg dpkg jessie sysvinit |
| 21:06.10 | gabrielb374k | hi :D |
| 21:06.37 | captainchris | heheh |
| 21:06.40 | captainchris | ;) |
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| 21:07.28 | captainchris | hi gabriel do you remeber me ? |
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| 21:08.01 | captainchris | It's been a long time I'm not come here |
| 21:08.15 | commux8 | it says how to install sysV, but how can i remove systemd ? |
| 21:09.17 | captainchris | maybe 5 years |
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| 21:11.48 | Tipolosko | hi |
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| 21:14.39 | commux8 | apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd seem to be enough |
| 21:14.44 | gabrielb374k | no capta =/ |
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| 21:26.05 | Chaser | commux8: also http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation |
| 21:26.23 | commux8 | just found it as well, thank you :) |
| 21:26.25 | greycat | Be careful when removing boot systems... I don' |
| 21:26.36 | greycat | I don't know how trustworthy these web sites are. |
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| 21:26.57 | Chaser | I did it couple of times, seems to have gone fine. Just on base debian with out desktop. |
| 21:26.57 | commux8 | it worked as charm |
| 21:27.15 | commux8 | got rid of a useless thing |
| 21:27.19 | greycat | And you were able to boot? |
| 21:27.25 | commux8 | yes |
| 21:27.27 | greycat | ok |
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| 21:29.31 | otyugh | Hey, I want to try to see how to simply get the parent proccess name. I first use "pgrep process" to get the name, then "ps --ppid" should work right ? But it does not find anything, why that ? :( |
| 21:29.45 | otyugh | *to get the pid |
| 21:29.50 | otyugh | -name |
| 21:30.21 | otyugh | Hurh. Maybe I should try #bash thought. |
| 21:30.24 | greycat | otyugh: generally it's easier to do ps axf and scroll up/down |
| 21:30.33 | jhutchins | otyugh: What process? |
| 21:30.44 | otyugh | in that case it's Xorg |
| 21:31.02 | greycat | it's called "X" in the process namespace |
| 21:31.13 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.17 | otyugh | pgrep finds Xorg's PID oO |
| 21:32.04 | otyugh | but "ps --ppid $(pgrep X)" does not work |
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| 21:32.47 | greycat | "That is, it selects processes that are children of those listed in pidlist." |
| 21:32.57 | greycat | you're finding X's children, not parent |
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| 21:33.18 | greycat | (and it has none on my system) |
| 21:33.55 | greycat | If you don't like ps axf, try: ps -fp $(pgrep X) |
| 21:33.59 | gabrielb374k | Hello Guys :D |
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| 21:35.28 | hiyo | I upgraded to Jessie from Wheezy and now my iptable rules I set for my VPN and saved using iptables-persistent aren't being persistent at all |
| 21:36.32 | jhutchins | Yay! Another victory for systemd! |
| 21:36.41 | commux8 | :D |
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| 21:38.08 | jhutchins | hiyo: Put your rules in /etc/iptables/iptables.rules - systemd should detect that file and start the service. |
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| 21:38.32 | hiyo | jhutchins: okay, how is that a victory for systemd though? |
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| 21:41.17 | teraflops | hiyo: he is being sarcastic, or I think so, anyway he is blaming systemd instead debian's systemd clusterfuk I think |
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| 21:43.35 | nglpx1 | systemd is the big brother |
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| 21:43.53 | GitGud | is anyone here familiar with mps-youtube |
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| 21:43.55 | GitGud | ? |
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| 21:43.57 | Tony2000 | ciao |
| 21:44.22 | Tony2000 | !lista |
| 21:44.46 | rattking | yeah I have been having problems with iptables-persistent too.. it use to be a init script but now it seems to live in /usr/share/netfilter-persistent but I am not sure how thats called anymore |
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| 21:45.04 | rattking | make that /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d |
| 21:45.06 | teraflops | GitGud: just ask |
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| 21:45.26 | GitGud | i think i figured it out haha |
| 21:45.40 | GitGud | my question was how to start. cause i did 'mps-youtube' and it said command not found |
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| 21:45.51 | jhutchins | hiyo: Yet another task conquered and assimilated. |
| 21:46.04 | GitGud | i dont know why they put the 'mpsyt' not so obviously |
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| 21:46.28 | jhutchins | GitGud: Did you read the README file? |
| 21:46.36 | GitGud | in github? |
| 21:46.41 | GitGud | yeah well i skimmed it |
| 21:47.16 | jhutchins | GitGud: If it's a Debian package there should be something like /usr/share/doc/mps*/README |
| 21:47.29 | GitGud | oh not that one |
| 21:47.34 | GitGud | one from github yeah |
| 21:48.11 | teraflops | GitGud: mpsyt? |
| 21:48.23 | GitGud | teraflops, thats the command to start mps-youtube |
| 21:48.27 | GitGud | apparently |
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| 21:49.33 | gabrielb374k | algum BR ? |
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| 21:50.14 | jhutchins | !br |
| 21:50.14 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 21:51.23 | GitGud | in mps-youtube when i do /search terms. it says nothing found for that term. |
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| 21:51.34 | GitGud | but in the docs thats how they explain to search for things |
| 21:51.36 | GitGud | so what gives? |
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| 21:54.22 | matu | Hi i have a big problem, this code does not work, i dont get why |
| 21:54.24 | matu | http://codepaste.net/jsy68v |
| 21:54.48 | netsca | matu what language is that? |
| 21:54.51 | matu | i have installed postgresql in debian stable |
| 21:54.53 | matu | plpgsql |
| 21:55.06 | netsca | does it work on other distros |
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| 21:57.27 | matu | but this one works : http://pastie.org/10516928 |
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| 21:58.28 | matu | it is an example i got from a school book, it worked last year on window |
| 21:59.12 | matu | it seems my debian postgresql does not like the $FUNCT$ stuff |
| 21:59.59 | matu | is it because it is a stable version of postgresql ? do i need to something in order to make it work ? |
| 22:00.27 | matu | +install |
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| 22:03.27 | karlpinc | matu: You could try asking on #postgresql (Didn't read it, requires js.) |
| 22:03.53 | matu | ok thank you |
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| 22:05.49 | GitGud | i removed it |
| 22:05.50 | hiyo | jhutchins: quick follow up my rule is like this "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.5.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE" what would I acutually put in the file |
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| 22:06.36 | matu | haha my code was wrong |
| 22:07.16 | commux8 | hiyo, try putting your rules again and run dpkg-reconfigure iptables-persistent |
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| 22:15.07 | Terminus- | hello. i'm running debian on digital ocean and when i use systemctl --user, i get the error "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Connection refused" any idea why? |
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| 22:51.29 | argoneus | hello |
| 22:51.38 | argoneus | is there a simple way to install python 3.4 or 3.5 on wheezy? |
| 22:51.48 | argoneus | all guides I found say I need to switch to sid |
| 22:51.52 | argoneus | and there's no python 3.4 in backports |
| 22:54.13 | Terminus- | argoneus: why not install it in $HOME? |
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| 22:54.22 | Terminus- | that way it's separate from system. |
| 22:54.29 | argoneus | I need to use it in Jenkins |
| 22:54.33 | argoneus | to CI build stuff |
| 22:54.44 | argoneus | so I thought having it system wide would be easiest |
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| 22:56.19 | Terminus- | argoneus: i dunno man. that's what i've always done for software i'm to lazy to package. nicer to have separation, especially when some system files might depend on specific versions of python. |
| 22:57.12 | ewew | !scroot |
| 22:57.22 | ewew | !schroot |
| 22:57.23 | dpkg | schroot is an easy way of setting up a <chroot> of testing or unstable within your installation of stable. See https://wiki.debian.org/Schroot and http://linuxgazette.net/150/kapil.html |
| 22:57.34 | ewew | maybe relevant |
| 22:57.45 | ewew | not sure |
| 22:59.04 | argoneus | Terminus-: so I just build from source in my home dir |
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| 22:59.14 | argoneus | and then make a symlink in bin? |
| 22:59.22 | Terminus- | argoneus: you could just suck it up and install it in /opt/ or something. i think that's the most reasonable thing to do. then again, i'm addicted to separating all my crap with virtualenv/rvm/etc. |
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| 22:59.57 | Terminus- | argoneus: build from source, set --prefix or what have you, then just add to path. or symlink to ~/bin/ which should be in your path if it exists. |
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| 23:06.50 | gnat_x | i'm looking for help with iptables. i've asked in here, and no one has answered, which is totally fine, however, does anyone know of a more appropriate place to ask. |
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| 23:07.17 | gnat_x | i'm trying to set up a router, that allows traffic to-from our phone provider but only for the subnet. |
| 23:07.19 | testa | hi all |
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| 23:08.02 | testa | i try to install a new debian |
| 23:08.21 | testa | to my allwinner a13s |
| 23:08.32 | zxd | gnat_x: #iptables |
| 23:08.36 | zxd | gnat_x: #netfilter |
| 23:08.40 | matu | gn and thank you |
| 23:08.58 | gnat_x | zxd: thanks! |
| 23:09.36 | testa | i prepared a microsd card with uboot |
| 23:09.49 | testa | sorry for my english |
| 23:10.10 | testa | but my result a simple black screen |
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| 23:10.35 | bazhang | testa ubuntu ? |
| 23:11.19 | bazhang | what is 'uboot ' testa |
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| 23:11.42 | bazhang | ,v uboot |
| 23:11.43 | judd | No package named 'uboot' was found in amd64. |
| 23:12.58 | testa | https://www.olimex.com/wiki/A13-SOM-building-latest-Debian |
| 23:13.03 | teraflops | ,v u-boot |
| 23:13.04 | testa | pls dont kill me :D |
| 23:13.04 | judd | Package: u-boot on amd64 -- squeeze: 2010.06-1; wheezy: 2012.04.01-2 |
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| 23:14.01 | teraflops | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/u-boot |
| 23:14.16 | teraflops | ^ |
| 23:14.34 | testa | ttps://packages.debian.org/jessie/u-boot |
| 23:14.56 | teraflops | oh well I think the bot does not care about arm |
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| 23:15.22 | teraflops | since they are debian too im not sure what to think |
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| 23:16.23 | Brigo | testa, did you follow any guide or howto? |
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| 23:17.29 | Brigo | testa, like https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner#Introduction |
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| 23:27.41 | testa | i followed the howto |
| 23:27.52 | testa | i double check many times |
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| 23:29.08 | testa | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner#Installing_from_an_SD_card_image |
| 23:29.19 | testa | i try this but same result |
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| 23:35.33 | ewew | testa I dont know if your device support netboot. |
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| 23:43.19 | testa | hmm |
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| 23:44.11 | ewew | testa I dont work with these devices. So i can not tell what will happen. I use only PC based computers. |
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| 23:46.08 | SuperTramp83 | hi! Can someone help me with this? I just made a apt update && upgrade and got this -> https://paste.debian.net/318806/ |
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| 23:47.17 | mtn | SuperTramp83: have you changed your software sources? added repos or ppas? |
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| 23:47.26 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: nope |
| 23:47.34 | mtn | SuperTramp83: only stable or....? |
| 23:47.35 | SuperTramp83 | Haven't changed anything at all |
| 23:47.39 | SuperTramp83 | yeo |
| 23:47.44 | SuperTramp83 | er * yep |
| 23:47.56 | ewew | SuperTramp83 Did you install something in the past ? |
| 23:48.11 | SuperTramp83 | the only thing is bitmask |
| 23:48.15 | testa | ewew me too |
| 23:48.25 | SuperTramp83 | the vpn client |
| 23:48.29 | mtn | run this in a terminal: apt-cache policy and the name of the package |
| 23:48.57 | testa | i just looking a cheap way to change my house to smart ;) |
| 23:49.17 | teraflops | testa: heh |
| 23:49.45 | teraflops | testa: what arm board are you using? |
| 23:50.10 | teraflops | which* |
| 23:50.16 | testa | $40 tabblets |
| 23:50.31 | testa | i try to use 3 different |
| 23:50.41 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: https://paste.debian.net/318808/ |
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| 23:51.09 | teraflops | tablets? |
| 23:51.10 | testa | JYJ 7 Inch |
| 23:51.22 | testa | JYj jia |
| 23:51.33 | testa | and this a13s |
| 23:52.43 | teraflops | do you know if debian is supposed to boot on that things? or if anyone installed debian on those tablets? |
| 23:52.44 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: indeed I see it point to bitmask.. |
| 23:52.51 | SuperTramp83 | er *points |
| 23:53.16 | mtn | SuperTramp83: so is that a repo you added? |
| 23:53.28 | ewew | SuperTramp83 I think its caused by repo version missmatch.guess. |
| 23:54.03 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: you are right, sorry, yes I added the repo for bitmask. I followed the instructions on their website.. |
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| 23:54.25 | mtn | SuperTramp83: and that is the cause or your problem. using non debian repos |
| 23:54.51 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: yes. But I need bitmask and it is really the only thing I added.. |
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| 23:55.33 | ewew | SuperTramp83 It looks like bitmask requires some depedencies that dont match in debian main repository. |
| 23:55.56 | teraflops | SuperTramp83: but you own now a frankendebian |
| 23:56.36 | SuperTramp83 | teraflops: any useful suggestion or just trivial comments? |
| 23:57.15 | teraflops | SuperTramp83: the useful suggestion is do not add 3rd party repos and bv do not ask here how to fix that shit :P |
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| 23:57.25 | teraflops | obv* |
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| 23:58.48 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: any suggestion other than removing bitmask repo and bitmask? |
| 23:58.55 | teraflops | dpkg: frankendebian |
| 23:58.56 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 23:59.33 | SuperTramp83 | mtn: is this a serious security issue, this package leaving it at the older version? |
