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| 00:09.53 | hanasaki | how do you get hibernate and suspend working on a laptop with gnome and also lid close/open? |
| 00:10.04 | bitgeek | why is it when I do 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' it tells me I'll use less disk space, each time? |
| 00:10.06 | livingroom | been a long time since i've been in #debian |
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| 00:10.54 | rainfyre | bitgeek: it's telling you that the packages that get removed with give you that much disk space back |
| 00:11.06 | rainfyre | bitgeek: *will give you that much back |
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| 00:11.48 | bitgeek | rainfyre: I would expect an upgrade to use more space, assuming it's adding features and upgrades to my installed software |
| 00:12.09 | rainfyre | bitgeek: packages are added and removed. |
| 00:12.44 | rainfyre | bitgeek: newer doesn't mean it necessarily takes up more space evidently |
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| 00:20.10 | ProfessorKaos64 | is 'apt-get --build PKG' a completely bad way to rebuild/link a Ubuntu ppa package if I need a build ? |
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| 00:40.52 | RevertToType | anyone know a quick way to find out free/busy status from an exchange server via command line? |
| 00:41.07 | abrotman | seems like the wrong channelto ask |
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| 00:41.45 | wathek | hey guys |
| 00:41.58 | wathek | what browser are you using ? |
| 00:42.03 | abrotman | !polls |
| 00:42.04 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
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| 00:42.19 | wathek | haha sorry |
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| 00:43.11 | wathek | cause I'm using chrome on my laptop and it doesn't have the feature of hardware video decoding enabled so when I watch videos it heats the CPU |
| 00:43.29 | abrotman | on what OS? |
| 00:43.36 | wathek | Debian Jessie |
| 00:43.41 | abrotman | Checked the BTS? |
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| 00:43.54 | wathek | abrotman, what's BTS ? |
| 00:44.46 | wathek | bug tracking system :p |
| 00:45.56 | wathek | abrotman, yeah I searched for a while and I think that Google disabled that feature because it makes the browser unstable |
| 00:46.54 | wathek | abrotman, but it seems like you know we cannot still don't have that feature |
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| 00:52.20 | abrotman | I don't know anything about it |
| 00:52.29 | abrotman | hence my suggestion to look in the BTS |
| 00:52.40 | wathek | ok thanks man :p |
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| 01:26.37 | GPN_Vince | hey guys |
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| 01:29.49 | Sh4d03 | Ok, this will sound stupid. I'm trying to delete a partition (/dev/sdb8). I enter fdisk (fdisk /dev/sdb). I hit 'p' I can |
| 01:29.52 | Sh4d03 | see the partition is the 5th in the list. I hit 'd' and then |
| 01:29.55 | Sh4d03 | '5'. I then hit 'p' to check but the wrong partition has been |
| 01:29.57 | Sh4d03 | deleted, it's deleted the last on the list. What am I |
| 01:30.00 | Sh4d03 | misunderstanding? |
| 01:30.32 | padawin | Sh4d03: isn't it zero-based? |
| 01:31.08 | Sh4d03 | padawin: I wondered that, but it says enter the partition number between 1-10 |
| 01:31.24 | abrotman | try paste.debian.net to show us |
| 01:31.31 | padawin | ^ what he said :) |
| 01:31.42 | padawin | :q |
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| 01:31.47 | padawin | sorry |
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| 01:38.26 | GPN_Vince | I really, really love/hate how linux does this to me. I just wanted to fix my wordpress install, and now hours later I read documentation about ProFTP and xinetd. The original problem isnât fixed yet, but Iâm pretty sure I made it worse. Now, ftp is broken too. |
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| 03:38.21 | deego | I have a new jessie install. But, my tmp is not a tmpfs. It's just in the / partition. |
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| 03:39.08 | deego | It's probably because I initially assigned a /tmp partition during install. Now, I have removed that from fstab and rebooted. I hear debian uses a tmpfs partition for tmp now, but it's not used it for me automatically, upon reboot. |
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| 03:41.32 | beergear | deego: I think you need to add a fstab line for tmp, to mount it on a tmpfs directory |
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| 03:45.40 | deego | beergear: ah, thanks. i'm now googlin for the default fstab entry debian would do for that. |
| 03:46.11 | STMelon | Knight allz |
| 03:47.16 | beergear | np |
| 03:48.05 | deego | beergear: do you have such a line in /etc/fstab? was it created automatically by debian upon install ? |
| 03:49.14 | beergear | tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,size=100m 0 0 |
| 03:49.39 | beergear | thats one I have for my raspi, you might want to remove the noatime and change the size or whatever |
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| 03:51.03 | beergear | I don't have a default one as this computer is using device mapper, and my other jessie system is a live-build. sry :/ |
| 03:51.21 | deego | beergear: np, and thanks |
| 03:51.29 | black_13 | how do i know that i got "all" fonts available when i installed debian |
| 03:51.37 | beergear | :) |
| 03:52.04 | beergear | black_13: /usr/share/fonts |
| 03:52.45 | deego | hm, i'm looking at a mint default install, and even that doesn't have a tmpfs tmp |
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| 03:53.20 | black_13 | how do i get more fonts |
| 03:54.43 | beergear | I dunno man I don't use more than the default fonts |
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| 03:55.42 | beergear | deego: it's really preference if you want it tmpfs or not |
| 03:56.38 | deego | beergear: ah, i see an option in /etc/default/tmpfs |
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| 03:57.48 | beergear | you could do it there too sure |
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| 03:58.14 | deego | and yeah, it does say you can create /etc/fstab option.. |
| 03:58.55 | beergear | I think the more debian way would be to do it in /etc/default/tmpfs |
| 03:59.19 | beergear | But I'd never remember if I put it there. :p |
| 03:59.45 | deego | http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html - hm, this says the default in tmpfs should have been ramtmp, but it doesn't seem to be so in my /etc/default/tmpfs |
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| 04:00.39 | beergear | tmpfs will page, while ramfs will not |
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| 04:02.00 | deego | yes, but #RAMTMP=no seems to be the default, which seems to conflict with http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html |
| 04:02.40 | beergear | looks like the release notes for wheezy, maybe they changed it? |
| 04:03.13 | deego | ah! |
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| 04:05.04 | deego | still trying to figure out the "right" ("debian") way to do that. it seems that setting won't have effect any longer: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg01314.html, and i should use the systemd method now |
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| 04:06.25 | beergear | oh hmm |
| 04:06.33 | beergear | I'm still adapting to this systemd thing |
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| 04:07.43 | beergear | I find remembering commands like that wayyyyy more difficult than filestructure config |
| 04:08.13 | deego | yeah, i'm no fan of this new thing myself. maybe i will learn to like it. |
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| 04:13.11 | beergear | the fact that it's still all mixed up like that doesn't make it any easier :P |
| 04:13.27 | beergear | just gonna be time before everyone gets used to it |
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| 04:23.40 | swift110-phone | Hmm |
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| 04:30.55 | deego | beergear: ah, so, that sysctl incantation worked for me. After a reboot, it mounted to tmpfs to /tmp (otoh, froma live cd, I saw that it left the old /tmp unclean, mounting on top of it, and i rm'd all that.) |
| 04:31.13 | deego | i guess it's just like dpkg-reconfigure. Less modifying files by hand.. |
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| 04:40.00 | deego | reads https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/tmpfs-considered-harmful/ |
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| 04:42.54 | beergear | deego: sweet! glad it worked fr you man :) |
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| 04:44.22 | schultza | is there a way to have scripts have and use a passworded key pair for use with ssh and not have the password saved anywhere? |
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| 04:46.55 | millican | I'm trying to not have X start on booting up a machine. I would love for it to boot to console, but that seems to be a pipe dream. |
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| 04:53.36 | solarnetone | apt-get remove $displaymanager |
| 04:54.02 | solarnetone | you have to fill in the variable as pertains to your installation |
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| 04:55.02 | deego | beergear: ah, Upon reading more, the "right" way seems to be to use /run/shm/ instead of /dev/shm/ when I explicitly want to use shm. I can still use /tmp (tmpfs), of course. |
| 04:55.06 | millican | I didn't install one. It was from the minimal install. |
| 04:56.05 | millican | The annoying thing is, X keeps trying to start. Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing and the CPU gets thrashed by X trying to start. I have to ssh into the machine. |
| 04:58.04 | beergear | deego: I know /dev/shm/ symlinks to /run/shm/. Didn't know I should use that instead though, neat. |
| 04:59.20 | beergear | deego: got a link for where ya saw that? |
| 05:01.20 | millican | I'm beginning to think that it's just not possible to boot without starting X-server with Jessie. |
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| 05:02.08 | deego | beergear: ah, they are just symlinks. i see. |
| 05:02.45 | deego | i didn't see it anywhere. it just seemed strange to me to use a /dev/foo directory as a directory, so assumed there /run/shm must be the proper abstraction |
| 05:03.12 | beergear | millican: you can boot without X, you don't need to install it to begin with! |
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| 05:06.08 | millican | beergear: Thanks. I didn't install it. |
| 05:06.22 | millican | It wasn't optional. |
| 05:07.38 | millican | On previous releases of Debian, one could replace "quite splash" in the grub command line to "text". That doesn't work with Jessie either. |
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| 05:12.00 | beergear | I was under the impression a minimal install, without selecting the desktop packages, would not pull in X... |
| 05:12.23 | millican | I was too. :-) I just removed xorg.conf and rebooted. That seems to "fix" it. |
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| 05:13.05 | beergear | did you maybe install something after, that had it as a dependancy? |
| 05:14.02 | millican | I mostly use the machine for database and grass (GIS) scripts through ssh. The CPU was getting hammered by X though. |
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| 05:15.17 | beergear | wierd |
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| 05:16.30 | millican | It is. htop shows nothing X related now. It can't be as simple as removing xorg.conf. |
| 05:17.48 | millican | Thanks for the suggestions earlier. |
| 05:18.02 | beergear | apt-get -s autoremove xorg will show ya what it would remove |
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| 05:18.37 | beergear | -s runs a simulation, you would be able to catch anything thats dependant on it before you remove it. |
| 05:19.46 | millican | I'll try that. Thanks again. |
| 05:19.54 | beergear | yeah np man :) |
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| 05:25.22 | bug | i just install from the live+non-free "standard" iso, which doesn't have x at all. easy to add it, though. |
| 05:26.42 | bug | eg, apt-get install xorg openbox. then boot to console and use startx when you want it. |
| 05:26.43 | millican | Alright. I'm getting the CD out now. |
| 05:27.51 | millican | I made a mistake. It's the netinstall disk, not the minimal. |
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| 06:05.32 | bpeak | debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso -> Can this iso be used to make a bootable usb stick? |
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| 06:11.31 | bpeak | I was hesitant I was downloading the right file because the download page has a section "other images (netboot, USB stick, etc.)", so it made me think that regular CD isos don't work for making bootable USB sticks. Thanks for the clarification. |
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| 06:13.25 | FI_OpwK | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html when in doubt |
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| 06:30.14 | arahael | So, I an external hard drive which I've just connected. |
| 06:30.33 | arahael | It appears that this hard drive contains an LVM2 volume, how do I mount it? |
| 06:30.48 | arahael | The filesystem type is "LVM2_Member". |
| 06:31.22 | millican | does -t auto work in the mount command? |
| 06:32.01 | arahael | millican: No, it says: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' |
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| 06:32.23 | jelly | arahael: use "vgs" to look at which LVM volume group (VG) it belongs to. If it's self-contained, you can bring up that VG with vgchange -ay name-of-vg, and then you'll be able to access logical volumes inside (new block devices will appear under /dev/mapper) |
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| 06:33.15 | arahael | jelly: That worked as a dream - I keep forgetting these steps. |
| 06:33.18 | arahael | Thanks. |
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| 06:33.49 | jelly | after you umount and are done with it, don't forget to vgchange -an ... before disconnecting |
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| 06:34.13 | arahael | Thanks. |
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| 06:51.46 | arahael | So, I deleted the LVM partition, and re-created a new partition in it's place. |
| 06:51.59 | arahael | I suspect that the partition layout was ultimately unchanged, except for the filesystem type. |
| 06:52.15 | arahael | However, when I try to reformat it, it says that it contains an LVM2_member filesystem. |
| 06:52.55 | arahael | Is mkfs.ext4 checking the _contents_ of the partition just in case I did something wrong? |
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| 06:55.47 | arahael | I notice that the blkid for this partition is set as 'LVM2_member', however I deleted it. Shouldn't it have deleted the blkid's as well? |
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| 06:57.42 | arahael | continues regardless. |
| 06:58.10 | arahael | Ah, the blkid stuff got replaced when I reformatted it. I guess it takes it from the partitino data, rather than the partition table. |
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| 07:07.55 | milkywayprotein | Installing apt-build, and it asks my pc architecture. If I have intel core 2 duo, I choose 'core2'? |
| 07:08.39 | arahael | milkywayprotein: Core2 is in the list of options? |
| 07:10.20 | milkywayprotein | Yes arahael |
| 07:11.10 | milkywayprotein | I thought architecture was like 'amd64' like it shows for my kernel |
| 07:11.38 | arahael | milkywayprotein: So did I, but I'm not familiar with apt-build. |
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| 07:12.03 | milkywayprotein | Ill go with it and give it a try arahael, seems the best choice |
| 07:12.55 | arahael | milkywayprotein: I would suspect that it will enable core2 specific optimisations, and might not work on a non-core2 amd64 system. |
| 07:13.08 | arahael | milkywayprotein: But I'd rather confirm that. |
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| 07:41.07 | HeavyMetal-2 | hi I am wondering what would cause this error at boot https://paste.aseriesoftubez.com/p/1444203649-G4nKz.txt |
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| 08:25.39 | kruger | hi, i've rebuild a bootable dvd with a new kernel version but i'm unable to boot in uefi mode -i've got (initramfs) error-, but i'm able only to boot in bios mode. Whats' wrong? |
| 08:28.00 | break3r | maybe something to do with secure mode? |
| 08:28.17 | break3r | s/mode/boot |
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| 08:36.21 | JRS | Can i install NFS MW on debian ? |
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| 08:41.24 | kruger | break3r: secure mode is disabled |
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| 08:43.54 | break3r | maybe something with your copy went wrong? |
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| 08:44.02 | break3r | in EFI folder |
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| 08:47.28 | wm4 | how do I build and install the perf tool with a custom kernel? |
| 08:47.51 | wm4 | and why are the kernel devs so incompetent and require a perf tool specific to a kernel version? |
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| 08:53.07 | wm4 | USER_HOME=$(bash <<< "echo ~$SUDO_USER") |
| 08:53.11 | wm4 | who thought this was a good idea |
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| 08:54.00 | wm4 | in a damn makefile |
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| 09:10.34 | afx237 | i've got a debian jessie system that i installed with LVM encryption, was working for a few weeks, reboots with different keyboards etc all good. now all of a sudden it's not accepting my encryption password on boot. i've tried with different keyboards and stuff. it's just a standard US keyboard, password doesn't contain any special chars, and have checked it's not a caps lock issue. i've now booted the debian netinst iso, and put into rescue mode. |
| 09:10.34 | afx237 | this also doesn't accept the password. anyone have ideas where to start looking to try and get back in? maybe a header corruption issue or a recent update broke it? |
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| 09:12.28 | rozie | I believe that disk got corrupted |
| 09:12.41 | rozie | especially master key could got corrupted |
| 09:13.11 | rozie | or LUKS DB |
| 09:13.17 | rozie | afx237: do you have backup? |
| 09:14.11 | afx237 | rozie: do you know how to / or of any guides to restore the header on an unbootable system? i assume it keeps a copy of the header in multiple locations on the disk ? well this system itself is a dedicated backup system, so i won't lose anything. don't really want to have to waste a whole day setting it up again though. |
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| 09:15.58 | collin11 | i'm missing pstree command on one of my systems. apt-get update && apt-get install pstree didn't help. /etc/apt/sources.list look identical to other systems where pstree available. Where can be problem ? |
| 09:16.46 | woffs | collin11: dpkg -S /usr/bin/pstree says psmisc is what you want to install |
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| 09:18.17 | collin11 | woffs: thank you |
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| 09:19.56 | rozie | afx237: no, I guess it's rare issue and you will have problem finding someone who did this, better search on the web. and be careful, think twice before doing/changing anything |
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| 09:36.37 | guest154 | Hi there, I got a question about ssh/sftp chroots, hoping this is the right channel - currently when logging in to sftp I end up in the ChrootDirectory given through the SSH config. Is it possible to configure a custom subdirectory as "home" directory where it goes by default? |
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| 09:59.26 | ksk | guest154: yes it is. see man sshd_config |
| 09:59.45 | ksk | eh, gimme a sec |
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| 10:00.45 | ksk | you can setup in your sshd_config: "match user blafoo -> chrootdirectory /chroot1" |
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| 10:03.00 | guest154 | ksk: I actually have that now, what I want is actually: ChrootDirectory /var/www - but when I log in via sftp I want to end up in /var/www/username (with the option to go one directory higher) |
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| 10:18.03 | Iridos | guest154, manpage says "After the chroot, sshd(8) changes the working directory to the user's home directory." --> your problem is that the user's home directory doesn't exist in the chroot. |
| 10:18.35 | Iridos | sshd probably tries to change into /var/www/home/username, but you have only /var/www/username |
| 10:18.57 | SimonB__ | Im not sure if this is going to be a Debian or a VMWare issue, but... Debian jessie VM on ESX5.1, if the machine is idle for about 5 minutes it looses all network connectivity, it is almost always resolved by restarting networking service and then pinging something. Any idea whats going on? |
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| 10:20.08 | SimonB__ | interestingly enough, this also happened during OS net installation. |
| 10:21.08 | Iridos | I guess the simplest fix would, in theory, be cd /var/www/ ; ln -s . home ... anyway, you need a full chroot environment... I doubt the wisdom of having /dev and /etc in /var/www |
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| 10:21.49 | Iridos | SimonB__, look if anything happens in dmesg and other logs |
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| 10:22.55 | SimonB__ | Iridos: I cant see anything thats relvant... in dmesg, syslog, and messages |
| 10:23.02 | SimonB__ | *relevant |
| 10:24.22 | Iridos | then I would guess it must be vmware or your outside host doing something |
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| 10:26.09 | guest154 | Iridos: Ah yes of course, since it's for an sftp only case I can just change the home directory to /username which is correct when chrooted. cheers |
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| 10:32.28 | ksk | guest154: take a look what Iridos says, you can however using pam build something that creates the homes on the fly when the user is connecting.. |
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| 10:40.07 | ewew | ksk Can be used with pam_mkhomedir.so ? |
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| 10:48.51 | ksk | ewew: I used pam_mount.so and bindmounts - but mkhomedir if that exists sounds good, too :) |
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| 10:50.35 | ewew | ksk http://www.linux-pam.org/Linux-PAM-html/Linux-PAM_SAG.html. Have fun. |
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| 11:05.49 | blurkis | is it possible to try wayland in debian testing? the packages seems there? |
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| 11:07.25 | Iridos | judd, versions xwayland |
| 11:07.26 | judd | Package: xwayland on amd64 -- jessie: 2:1.16.4-1; stretch: 2:1.17.2-1.1; sid: 2:1.17.2-1.1; experimental: 2:1.17.2-2 |
| 11:08.00 | Iridos | blurkis, "apt-cache show xwayland" shoud tell you more about the package if you're on jessie or testing |
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| 11:10.31 | blurkis | Iridos, any idea of the easy to go back to x if wayland for somereason fails? :) |
| 11:10.57 | ewew | You using virtualization ? |
| 11:11.15 | blurkis | ewew, talking to me? |
| 11:11.21 | ewew | Yes |
| 11:11.40 | Iridos | blurkis, backups? try it inside a vm? try it on a 2nd install or inside a chroot? |
| 11:11.49 | blurkis | no. normal install of deb testing, |
| 11:12.05 | Iridos | blurkis, just uninstalling the package and installing the xorg package should of course also do it... |
| 11:12.07 | ewew | blurkis LVM present ? |
| 11:12.59 | blurkis | no. normal install of deb testing, :) |
| 11:13.32 | blurkis | no idea about lvm, |
| 11:13.33 | g00se | Why should sync take up to two minutes to return? |
| 11:14.10 | ewew | blurkis Generate list of packages a use the file if you need reinstall. You will have list of your current installed packages. |
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| 11:15.21 | blurkis | ewew, ah.. will look into that. thanks. |
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| 11:16.09 | ewew | blurkis Check man page of "dpkg" |
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| 11:17.24 | blurkis | ewew, feeding my 2month baby at the same timee so i cant multitask at the moment, will look in a minute :) |
| 11:17.48 | ewew | blurkis I am just writing suggestions. |
| 11:18.27 | blurkis | i know, no worries.. |
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| 11:18.52 | ewew | blurkis You know this channel is not encrypted. ? |
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| 11:19.17 | blurkis | ewew, and? |
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| 11:19.50 | blurkis | why would i mind? |
| 11:20.01 | ewew | Anyone can read this and not need to be connected to channel. |
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| 11:20.19 | blurkis | and? did i say something wrong? |
| 11:20.28 | ewew | no |
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| 12:03.50 | alebeta | Friends! Good morning. This morning i restart my Debian server, and i had Kernel Panic and i cannot start my server. I think was because i have a auto upgrade and install a update for the kernel 29-Sept. I use a rescuecd live to boot the system and try to repair |
| 12:04.10 | alebeta | which is the best option to say to grub use the kernel which was working before? |
| 12:04.15 | alebeta | thanks |
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| 12:13.32 | Iridos | alebeta, that shouldn't happen with upgrades in stable, as it's basically the same kernel and everything (just with added security patches) |
| 12:13.38 | sidi | I maintain a .deb package (on an Ubuntu PPA..) for a library, and would need that package to install a sh file into /usr/local/bin. What's the proper/easy way to do that (knowing that I don't care about the package being "clean", it's an absolute emergency for me and my clients and won't be needed after 2 months from now)? |
| 12:14.18 | ksk | sidi: install? |
| 12:14.35 | alebeta | Iridos, and then why i have this kernel panic? |
| 12:14.35 | ksk | the ... you maintain a package on a ppa and dont even know how to put a file somewhere? |
| 12:14.54 | sidi | ksk, what i mean here is, if i write an install rule it has to go within the prefix of my package, right? |
| 12:15.09 | sidi | ksk, which is /usr. i want to put an extra file outside that prefix |
| 12:15.11 | Iridos | alebeta, you what was the previous kernel and what is the current one? |
| 12:15.21 | sidi | i know there's a specific way to do that for /etc (which I forgot, though) |
| 12:15.45 | alebeta | Iridos, the current one is 3.14.50 |
| 12:15.53 | alebeta | the last i dont know... :c |
| 12:16.39 | Iridos | judd, kernels |
| 12:16.41 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-rc3-686-pae (4.3~rc3-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.3-1); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.1-2); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.1.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u4) |
| 12:17.03 | Iridos | alebeta, what version of debian is that supposed to be? |
| 12:17.17 | alebeta | Iridos, is Debian 7 |
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| 12:17.43 | meaneye | Hey folks. Anyone else has broken GDM after latest update in testing? |
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| 12:18.01 | jelly | sidi: uh, /usr/local is inside /usr... and you can dh_install anywhere you want, anyway |
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| 12:18.43 | jelly | as long as you bring the directory with your package |
| 12:18.51 | alebeta | Iridos, i use uname -r and appear 3.14.50. but now with the rescue disk im in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and i see that is configured with 3.2.0-4 |
| 12:18.53 | Iridos | alebeta, but wheezy has 3.2.0 ... and current backports offer 3.16.0 from jessie... I don't see how you could have upgraded to 3.14.x recently |
| 12:19.01 | Iridos | ah |
| 12:19.13 | alebeta | maybe is the kernel form the rescue cd.... sorry |
| 12:19.17 | sidi | jelly, thanks, will do that. |
| 12:19.21 | Iridos | yes... it's your current kernel |
| 12:19.26 | ewew | Iridos Own compilation of kernel ? |
| 12:19.38 | Iridos | ewew, no, the rescue-disk kernel |
| 12:19.51 | collin11 | How i can disable these tty's? running in the background ? Do i really need them ? https://paste.debian.net/314776 |
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| 12:20.38 | Iridos | alebeta, why exactly can you not start your server? What's the exact error you get? Do you see the grub boot menue before it goes to a kernel? |
| 12:21.01 | Iridos | (I guess you must be able to access some console, else using a rescue disk would probably have been problematic) |
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| 12:21.10 | kininarimasu | hi guys |
| 12:21.24 | alebeta | Iridos, yes i see the boot menu, and i see only this new kernel. and then next i have the kernel panic |
| 12:22.12 | alebeta | boot loader -> black screen with Kernel Panic error |
| 12:22.16 | Iridos | what does the panic message say? |
| 12:22.48 | alebeta | Iridos letme transcript i a pastebin |
| 12:23.24 | Iridos | I mean... e.g. if /root isn't found that also triggers a kernel panic, but has nothing to do with the kernel |
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| 12:26.03 | alebeta | Iridos, http://pastebin.com/UcdYz3am |
| 12:26.24 | Vladimirski | Is there an implemented program which tests the condition of the hard disc? |
| 12:26.33 | Iridos | duh |
| 12:26.45 | ewew | Vladimirski smartmontools. |
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| 12:27.46 | Iridos | alebeta, try checking the filesystem from the rescuedisk with fsck; then try to mount it and see if it's intact... specifically look for /sbin/init |
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| 12:28.14 | ewew | alebeta Try to boot with init=/sbin/init. |
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| 12:28.37 | alebeta | with the rescue disk i already boot the system, and the server is working |
| 12:28.40 | Iridos | you don't think /sbin/init will be what it's trying to boot by default? :) |
| 12:29.29 | Iridos | alebeta, you obviously did boot the kernel from the rescue disk... and I am not sure what init process that means... so please check it |
| 12:29.32 | RoyK | Iridos: if there's data on that drive, don't just fsck it before making a full copy of it with ddrescue :P |
| 12:29.49 | alebeta | oki then fsck to check the file system |
| 12:29.57 | Iridos | alebeta, hmm, but if you booted into it, that's problematic... unmount it first |
| 12:29.57 | g00se | Vladimirski: best thing is to use manufacturer's diagnostics |
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| 12:30.46 | g00se | Why should sync take up to two minutes to return? |
| 12:30.49 | alebeta | ok i can try boot again the server and say to the rescuecd to dont start te system Iridos |
| 12:30.55 | Iridos | g00se, because you've got a lot to write? |
| 12:31.00 | alebeta | and then mount the filesystem |
| 12:31.17 | g00se | Iridos: don't think so... |
| 12:31.55 | Vladimirski | g00se: you mean directly from bios? |
| 12:31.56 | g00se | I'm calling it as a precaution in a script that unmounts an mp3 player |
| 12:32.23 | g00se | Vladimirski: commonly they are packaged into a boot medium |
| 12:32.24 | Iridos | but sync will affect all disks |
| 12:32.56 | g00se | Iridos: yes, i know. Perhaps because i have an sshfs mount? |
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| 12:33.27 | Iridos | sshfs on a new connect has a hideous lag... that may well be it |
| 12:33.41 | kininarimasu | hi guys |
| 12:33.45 | g00se | Next time i try it, i'll unmount the sshfs before i run it and see if there's any change |
| 12:33.53 | Iridos | although it must have become better... I keep having an sshfs and don't notice so much difficulties with it anymore |
| 12:34.03 | petn-randall | g00se: If you unmount, it will "sync" only for that disk. So no need to call a global "sync" on the system. |
| 12:34.15 | kininarimasu | i'm using gnome. can i completely remove, or permanently disable tracker without removing gnome? |
| 12:34.29 | petn-randall | kininarimasu: Which tracker? |
| 12:34.29 | g00se | petn-randall: ok, so redundant anyway? ;) |
| 12:34.36 | petn-randall | g00se: Pretty much, yeah. |
| 12:34.53 | kininarimasu | petn-randall: gnome's tracker |
| 12:35.02 | g00se | was getting spooked, probably by flaky FAT |
| 12:36.03 | petn-randall | kininarimasu: You can remove the package, it might remove the gnome metapackage, too. Just make sure that the rest stays installed. |
| 12:37.08 | kininarimasu | petn-randall: it says gnome metapackage, gnome-core, and various other gnome-* will be autoremoved |
| 12:37.42 | Iridos | kininarimasu, do you mean the tracker-gui package? |
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| 12:38.20 | Iridos | if so... can't you just call /usr/bin/tracker-preferences and switch "Monitor file and directory changes" off? |
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| 12:39.31 | kininarimasu | Iridos: i'm not sure, i just ran ``apt-get remove tracker'' to see which package will be removed. |
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| 12:40.02 | Iridos | ah |
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| 12:40.47 | kininarimasu | Iridos: i don't know which one to set from tracker-preference, i've uncheck all the checkbox in "Semantics" and remove all path in "Location" tab |
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| 12:41.22 | kininarimasu | still, tracker-store and the likes automagically started when i press some keys (to search files) on nautilus window |
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| 12:42.02 | Iridos | well, yes, then you start the client-side... but the indexing would be gone |
| 12:42.55 | alebeta | Iridos, i already mount the disk in the filesystem in the rescue cd |
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| 12:46.46 | alebeta | Iridos, i did fsck /dev/sda1 and dont say any error in th edisk |
| 12:47.08 | alebeta | then the disk is intact right? |
| 12:47.19 | ewew | alebeta Can you check what is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg file ? |
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| 12:47.53 | alebeta | yes of course |
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| 12:49.22 | alebeta | ewew, but which part exactly?? because the file is extense and i will be difficult write everything here hahah |
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| 12:49.33 | ewew | alebeta pastebit |
| 12:50.05 | alebeta | mmm.. let me se if from the rescue console i can connect the network interfacez |
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| 12:51.00 | collin11 | how i can enable logind ? systemctl start logind - says no file found... |
| 12:51.04 | alebeta | and then i cant not connect from ssh o the machine |
| 12:51.41 | ewew | alebeta Do you have the servers root mounted ? |
| 12:51.55 | alebeta | yes |
| 12:52.11 | alebeta | i mount the disk in the rescue cd |
| 12:52.27 | alebeta | and then i can see inside c: |
| 12:52.40 | alebeta | also i can start with the rescue cd the Server and works normally |
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| 12:52.51 | ewew | alebeta /boot is mounted. Search /boot/grub/grub.cfg for line linux. |
| 12:53.25 | alebeta | yes im in the file |
| 12:54.02 | alebeta | ewew, im already in the file |
| 12:54.29 | ewew | alebeta Try to find line with Loading ... |
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| 12:55.17 | alebeta | the word loading doesn't exist in the file |
| 12:55.50 | alebeta | only i can see load |
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| 12:57.04 | ewew | alebeta Your grub falls in grub rescue shell ? |
| 12:57.16 | alebeta | let me try |
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| 12:58.51 | alebeta | ewew, from the rescue shell of the grub i had the problem with the Kernel panic also |
| 12:59.33 | ewew | alebeta When you try to boot from rescue shell it panics ? Does it show any other messages ? |
| 13:00.14 | alebeta | yes show me messages like loading the things and then stop in the kernel panic error message |
| 13:00.48 | ewew | alebeta add to boot parameters debug. |
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| 13:01.10 | alebeta | ewew, before the kernel panic, say Failed to execute /init |
| 13:01.51 | ewew | alebeta Then add init=/sbin/init and try boot. It looks like init is missing. |
| 13:02.09 | alebeta | ok let me try |
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| 13:03.29 | ewew | collin11 http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-logind.service.html |
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| 13:04.19 | salvatete | for some obscured reason the internet connection goes online when down, what is the correct setting in interfaces? |
| 13:05.18 | salvatete | when the pc is running and the internet connection is down and cron is killed, what makes it go online? |
| 13:05.38 | alebeta | ewew, in wich part i add the init=/sbin/init ?? |
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| 13:06.01 | alebeta | in the line linux? |
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| 13:06.24 | ewew | alebeta yes |
| 13:07.25 | salvatete | what makes debian think at bootup it can switch videomode at will? |
| 13:08.25 | salvatete | how does debian thinks the user is to change video mode in console? |
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| 13:09.29 | ewew | salvatete Is this a issue ? |
| 13:10.00 | salvatete | dont know huh? |
| 13:10.42 | abrotman | don't know what? |
| 13:10.49 | abrotman | you don't know if it's an issue? |
| 13:11.01 | salvatete | hi abrot turd |
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| 13:11.17 | abrotman | salvatete: Please take the insults elsewhere, thank you |
| 13:11.30 | ewew | salvatete At early boot is used basic video mode. |
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| 13:11.35 | petn-randall | salvatete: Take some time to cool off. If you're still interested in getting your problems solved, ask in a polite and constructive manner. |
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| 13:12.00 | petn-randall | salvatete: Take some time to cool off. If you're still interested in getting your problems solved, ask in a polite and constructive manner. |
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| 13:12.37 | abrotman | ... |
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| 13:13.50 | abrotman | wonders about sending to ##fixyourconnection |
| 13:14.10 | ewew | abrotman Does it matter ? |
| 13:14.16 | abrotman | yes |
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| 13:17.12 | alebeta | ewew, i have the line like this: linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 init=/sbin/init root=UUID=f4fa...etc... ro quiet |
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| 13:17.31 | alebeta | is like this?? |
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| 13:18.37 | ewew | alebeta It is okay. Try to boot. But not sure if it works. |
| 13:19.24 | alebeta | no, no work :c |
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| 13:20.14 | ewew | alebeta Do you know what was upgraded ? |
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| 13:24.28 | alebeta | yes |
| 13:24.35 | alebeta | the kernel and kernel headers |
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| 13:24.41 | alebeta | i have the email from the upgrade |
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| 13:25.21 | ewew | alebeta Does it say if something gone wrong ? |
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| 13:27.42 | ewew | alebeta Was the disk full when it upgraded ? |
| 13:28.22 | alebeta | no the disk was not full |
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| 13:28.48 | alebeta | linux headers linuxheaders common and linux image libc-dev |
| 13:28.57 | alebeta | this 3 thing was upgraded |
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| 13:30.13 | alebeta | only errors from php5-common |
| 13:30.27 | ewew | alebeta Ok. Heres the plan. Boot to rescue with cd. Then mount the root partiotion and other partition that contain /var, /usr and etc... After that mount procfs, sysfs, devtmpfs, devpts and then chroot. |
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| 13:34.05 | blurkis | Hi! I have installed wayland/weston etc in debian testing. How do I make my computer use wayland now instead of X? |
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| 13:37.34 | unicr0n | blurkis: check if there's an additional option at the login screen, like: [your DE] on Wayland |
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| 13:47.12 | daedeloth | I'm fighting with a debian package that doesn't want to build |
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| 13:51.47 | ewew | alebeta Did you fix it ? |
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| 13:59.26 | reciprocity | hi |
| 13:59.30 | reciprocity | im running tails downstream |
| 13:59.41 | reciprocity | but im having some problems configuring my 3g modem |
| 13:59.58 | ewew | reciprocity Are you using debian ? |
| 14:00.02 | bazhang | tails OS? |
| 14:00.40 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:01.05 | reciprocity | alis list ? |
| 14:02.47 | ewew | reciprocity Setup a account on irc.oftc.net a look for channel #tails. |
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| 14:04.38 | bazhang | reciprocity, /msg alis list tails |
| 14:04.55 | sine` | I have a headless debian server, how can i check what compiler is installed. gcc is not found when i try it |
| 14:04.55 | bazhang | you get in a /msg with the search service alis |
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| 14:06.32 | ewew | sine` How do you connect to your server ? ssh ? |
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| 14:07.33 | sine` | yes |
| 14:07.43 | sine` | ewew: I have just apt-get install gcc |
| 14:07.54 | sine` | I just assumed it would be on there! |
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| 14:08.41 | Aprendiz1234 | what log level in slapd is is neccesary for seeing the ask for login? |
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| 14:09.17 | sine` | I have installed and compiled a program, thanks for getting involved, albeit briefly :D |
| 14:09.47 | ewew | Aprendiz1234 It would be better to ask on ldap channel. |
| 14:10.06 | Aprendiz1234 | ewew: OK |
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| 14:11.37 | stefan912 | can someone reccomend me good books about terminal? |
| 14:11.59 | Stummi | "about terminal"? |
| 14:12.09 | bazhang | bash? |
| 14:12.13 | stefan912 | about bash |
| 14:12.15 | stefan912 | commands |
| 14:12.29 | g00se | Using the command line is really the only way to learn it. And man bash |
| 14:13.03 | bazhang | http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com stefan912 |
| 14:13.03 | Stummi | if you want to learn bash especially, use the bash guide: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide |
| 14:13.20 | bazhang | general linux stuff |
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| 14:14.18 | g00se | Other reference: online examples |
| 14:14.29 | stefan912 | thanks |
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| 14:14.38 | Stummi | especially with shell or bash scripting, the most "online examples" are crap |
| 14:14.47 | g00se | (you don't normally get enough of those for single complex-ish commands in a book) |
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| 14:15.37 | bazhang | abs -advanced bash scripting |
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| 14:16.16 | bazhang | ,v abs-guide |
| 14:16.17 | judd | Package: abs-guide on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 6.2-1; wheezy/non-free: 6.5-1; jessie/non-free: 6.6-1; stretch: 10-2; sid: 10-2 |
| 14:16.28 | Stummi | the abs-guide is a good example for crappy online tutorials |
| 14:16.40 | bazhang | in the repos |
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| 14:17.01 | ewew | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html |
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| 14:17.23 | Stummi | ABS is crap, don't use it |
| 14:17.51 | ewew | Stummi Can you tell us why ? |
| 14:17.52 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's great in dry conditions, but with snow covering the road surface, you might as well cut your brake lines. |
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| 14:18.52 | Stummi | ewew, it just ignores the bash best practice. Like defining local uppercase variables (don't use that), regulary mixing up [ and [[ (don't do that in bash), etc. |
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| 14:19.47 | p8m | NoImNotNineVolt: With a loose road surface(gravel, snow, etc) ABS increases stopping distance but it keeps the vehicle controllable |
| 14:19.51 | ewew | Stummi So the man pages should be fine ? |
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| 14:20.01 | jelly | !bash guide |
| 14:20.01 | dpkg | [bash guide] http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide |
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| 14:20.35 | Stummi | yes, man page and the bash guide on wooledge |
| 14:20.51 | Optic | if I want to make a package that is supported for startup on both systemd and legacy systems, are there any hints about how to deal with that? |
| 14:21.09 | Optic | maybe an example I could look at? |
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| 14:23.47 | jelly | Optic: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/pkg-systemd/Packaging ? |
| 14:23.56 | Stummi | I would go so far to say theres not a single code listing in the whole ABS without any flaws |
| 14:25.11 | ewew | Stummi But it is not possible to update it every time something changes. |
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| 14:25.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | p8m: exactly. but even still, 'controllable' within the bounds of physics. just because slamming the [ABS] brakes in the snow doesn't lock your wheels also doesn't mean that you'll be able to make sharp turns without losing traction. the ABS-equivalent for steering would be a drive-by-wire system where cutting the steering wheel hard doesn't actually budge the front wheels. |
| 14:25.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | also, sorry, this should be happening in -offtopic. |
| 14:25.46 | bazhang | not that abs NoImNotNineVolt |
| 14:25.48 | jelly | NoImNotNineVolt: please don't... drag that joke for too long in here |
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| 14:26.31 | Stummi | ewew, its was wrong from the beginning. And actually yes, a guide should change if the stuff it tells is wrong |
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| 14:28.36 | Optic | nice! so you can just deploy both startup scripts and systemd will do the right thing |
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| 14:28.44 | Optic | choosing either the .service or the init.d |
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| 14:29.12 | jelly | if they're named foo.service and /etc/init.d/foo, yes, I think so |
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| 14:30.09 | Optic | great. we have a bunch of stuff that manipulates startup with update-rc.d and it doesn't work right under jesse |
| 14:30.22 | Optic | jessie |
| 14:31.13 | jelly | postinst boilerplate has changed but I haven't looked at details. Asking in |
| 14:31.16 | jelly | !mentors |
| 14:31.17 | dpkg | [mentors] the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 14:31.23 | jelly | may give better results |
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| 14:32.44 | Optic | this feels like a pretty faqqish question :D |
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| 14:33.57 | jelly | not a lot package dev chat has remained in here, most of it over on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org) |
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| 14:50.55 | alebeta | ewew, sorry i was resolving some issues with other server o.o hahahahaha |
| 14:50.55 | alebeta | Ok. Heres the plan. Boot to rescue with cd. Then mount the root partiotion and other partition that contain /var, /usr and etc... After that mount procfs, sysfs, devtmpfs, devpts and then chroot |
| 14:50.55 | alebeta | this is what i need to do? |
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| 14:52.01 | ewew | alebeta The try aptitude and check if it show some broken packages. |
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| 14:53.20 | ewew | alebeta If you want to reinstall some packages, you need to chroot in root fs of server. |
| 14:53.56 | alebeta | which aptitude i need to do? aptitude upgrade? |
| 14:54.21 | ewew | alebeta only open aptitude and then press b. |
| 14:54.46 | alebeta | only b? |
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| 14:55.59 | alebeta | i push b |
| 14:56.02 | alebeta | but nothing hehe |
| 14:56.04 | alebeta | ewew, |
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| 14:57.22 | ewew | alebeta If it did not show anything that means no package is broken. Now find this string linux-image. |
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| 14:57.35 | alebeta | ewew, i have the option q u ? g |
| 14:57.54 | alebeta | in the aptitude? |
| 14:58.00 | ewew | alebeta Yes |
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| 14:58.44 | ewew | alebeta I want to try reinstall the kernel. |
| 14:58.49 | SynrG | ugh. teaching to navigate a gui / tui is tedious. give command-line equivalents. |
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| 15:00.06 | ewew | alebeta Forget aptitude. Exit from it and run update-grub |
| 15:00.15 | alebeta | jajaja ok ok |
| 15:00.33 | alebeta | ok ewew done |
| 15:00.49 | alebeta | said that found linux image and initrd |
| 15:01.00 | ewew | alebeta no errors ? |
| 15:01.05 | alebeta | no |
| 15:02.11 | ewew | alebeta update-initramfs -v -u -k all |
| 15:02.29 | alebeta | now im running the disk of the server and the server is working. Using a kernel from the sysresccd to keep the websites alive for a while |
| 15:02.30 | alebeta | ok |
| 15:03.16 | alebeta | ok ewew i run the command |
| 15:03.52 | ewew | alebeta now look in /var/log for file named aptitude and pastebin it. |
| 15:04.36 | alebeta | aptitude? |
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| 15:04.54 | ewew | alebeta The file in /var/log. |
| 15:04.58 | alebeta | yes |
| 15:05.01 | alebeta | but is empty |
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| 15:06.18 | ewew | alebeta Do you have /var mounted ? |
| 15:06.44 | alebeta | yes |
| 15:06.49 | alebeta | there is the file, but empty |
| 15:06.56 | Ooze | Hi. My root partition is about filled up and I'd like to allocate some more space to it from my home partition |
| 15:06.57 | alebeta | i can see all the logs of the system |
| 15:07.13 | Ooze | Is it unhealthy to unmount my home partition while my system is powered on? What's the best way to do this? |
| 15:07.23 | ewew | alebeta Do you can allow me to have access ? |
| 15:07.37 | Ooze | Probably shut it down and boot it up on a flash drive, use gparted there? |
| 15:08.35 | Ooze | I'd rather do it live so I don't lose my uptime... |
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| 15:09.26 | ewew | alebeta With ssh ? |
| 15:09.27 | petn-randall | Ooze: You can always unmount /home if there is nothing accessing it. |
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| 15:10.05 | Ooze | Does it matter if that user's homedir is being used for ssh access at the time? |
| 15:10.17 | Ooze | er, the user |
| 15:10.20 | Ooze | Not necessarily the dir |
| 15:10.43 | petn-randall | Ooze: But I'm not sure how you how/what you want to move there. You should be careful, since some parts, like /usr, need to be accessible at boot time. |
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| 15:11.13 | alebeta | ewew, is not possible, is behind a firewall which i dont have access :c |
| 15:11.19 | Ooze | I've got my .config folder and such in my homedir |
| 15:11.19 | petn-randall | Ooze: Don't care about the uptime, you should be rebooting on critical kernel updates, anyway. |
| 15:11.49 | Ooze | It's virtual so would be a little more too it than plugging in a flash drive anyway |
| 15:12.01 | Ooze | I'm just trying to give some of my open homedir space to my system |
| 15:12.58 | ewew | alebeta Now check in folder /var/log/apt/ if there is files named history.log and term.log |
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| 15:13.43 | alebeta | both are empty :/ ewew |
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| 15:15.10 | ewew | alebeta Not sure, but backup will be necessery. |
| 15:15.36 | alebeta | and format and reinstall? hahahahah |
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| 15:16.02 | alebeta | strange thing :c i dont understand which is the problem |
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| 15:17.16 | ewew | alebeta Just in case. You can try reboot now. before reboot exit the chroot and run sync. |
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| 15:17.31 | ewew | alebeta Dont know what is wrong. |
| 15:17.59 | alebeta | ok let me see, if something change |
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| 15:21.10 | ewew | alebeta Any results ? |
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| 15:22.57 | alebeta | no, the same message of Kernel Panic :/ |
| 15:23.08 | alebeta | ewew, |
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| 15:24.39 | ewew | alebeta This is weird. Last you can try install the previous kernel. The packages should reside in /var/cache/apt. This can be done in chroot. |
| 15:25.19 | ewew | alebeta If this does not work, then i dont know. |
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| 15:27.35 | nzst | Hi, I have a web application server, but am adding a standalone app to the server which runs backups. Should I be creating a different user to encapsulate this concern, or some other methodology? |
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| 15:31.38 | alebeta | ewew, in /var/cache/apt/archives/ is the new kernel 3.2.0-4 |
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| 15:32.01 | ewew | alebeta Try reinstall it. |
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| 15:33.44 | ewew | alebeta Do you have LVM on disk ? |
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| 15:35.58 | hit_ | Hello I have a text file, when I open it with vim it contains the string "Unión Europea"; however, when I view it with cat, I only see "Uni�n Europea" |
| 15:36.00 | Vladimirski | Is it possible to redirect a script to be executed from another server ? |
| 15:36.02 | hit_ | how to fix it? |
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| 15:36.32 | jelly | hit_: what does "file name-of-file" think about its encoding? |
| 15:36.49 | hit_ | HTML document, ISO-8859 text, with very long lines, with CRLF, LF line terminators |
| 15:36.55 | hit_ | I got it with wget |
| 15:37.02 | alebeta | i see if i check aptitude upgrade i see problems with some things of php5. this is not possible cause? ewew |
| 15:37.11 | alebeta | is the only thing that have a problem in the aptitude |
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| 15:37.46 | ewew | alebeta This should not affect boot. Do you have lvm on disk ? |
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| 15:38.01 | jelly | hit_: your terminal expects UTF-8 instead of an ISO-8859-* encoding. This is normal in this case. vim probably detects the encoding and changes the output for screen to UTF-8 on the fly. |
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| 15:38.36 | Akuw | hi, i have an application that saves file in /var/www/myapp/path/to/folder |
| 15:38.36 | kaak | what is the debian way for loading specific modules at boot time? |
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| 15:38.53 | hit_ | jelly: and how can I force it to be UTF-8? |
| 15:39.03 | hit_ | when I download it with wget I mean |
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| 15:39.09 | Akuw | but i need to mve all files to another partition and saved new files there |
| 15:39.16 | SynrG | kaak: /etc/modules works, just like on other distros |
| 15:39.19 | alebeta | ewew, no i dont have |
| 15:39.20 | Akuw | then my idea is to use symbolic link |
| 15:39.31 | kaak | SynrG, thanks! |
| 15:39.48 | Akuw | then, if my path is /var/www/myapp/path/to/folder |
| 15:39.56 | jelly | hit_: to what purpose? If you convert the encoding with "iconv" or "recode" you have to change the html metadata as well. |
| 15:40.00 | ewew | alebeta Lets try this. On what /dev/sdaX you have / ? |
| 15:40.09 | Akuw | and have particion /dev/sda6 |
| 15:40.16 | SynrG | kaak: if you need them in early boot, i.e. in the intrd, see /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
| 15:40.28 | SynrG | kaak: and make sure the initramfs is built with those modules included. |
| 15:40.35 | SynrG | initrd* |
| 15:40.36 | alebeta | ewew, i have /dev/sda1 / |
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| 15:40.44 | jelly | hit_: downloaded as it is, it will work with a browser (a html viewer) |
| 15:41.20 | hit_ | jelly: I pipe that file and more like it to some greps and cuts, and want to see the good output |
| 15:41.25 | hit_ | not sure how to do it |
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| 15:43.01 | SynrG | kaak: what modules? are they needed to boot the kernel at all? (e.g. modules to deal with disk hardware/filesystem) |
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| 15:43.27 | SynrG | if not, then you probably don't need to worry about initramfs-tools |
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| 15:43.55 | JoelJo | to write on the channel ##linux I where need to register? |
| 15:43.56 | kaak | SynrG, its for a relatively esoteric use: Loading the g_ether (USB gadget ethernet) module for an embedded board |
| 15:44.13 | kaak | Looks like /etc/modules worked great! |
| 15:44.32 | jelly | hit_: pipe some more through iconv |
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| 15:45.27 | alebeta | ewew, in /var/cache/apt/archives i have to linux-header image one from 20 sept and other from 5 of aug |
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| 15:45.33 | fornax | I have a problem with lxc on ubuntu and debian when I try to get the ip via dhcp. After some hours my network stops working. When I execute dhclient I get a RTNETLINK answers: File exists. If I delete the lease file in /var/lub/dhcp the network comes back but after some hours it is broken again. Anyone having similar problems or an idea to get rid of it? |
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| 15:46.09 | fornax | I ask here because my current setup is entirely on debian jessie (guests and hosts) |
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| 15:46.47 | hit_ | jelly: yep Im trying: "iconv --from=ISO-8859 --to=UTF-8" but I get "iconv: no se admite la conversión de `ISO-8859'" which means that is not allowed conversion from ISO-8859 |
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| 15:48.13 | marioxcc | Hello. |
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| 15:50.20 | SynrG | JoelJo: /msg nickserv help register |
| 15:50.31 | jelly | hit_: ISO-8859 is a series of encodings. ISO-8859-15 is for western europe latin languages |
| 15:50.34 | SynrG | JoelJo: also, not a #debian question. if you have issues, join #freenode & ask there |
| 15:51.07 | jelly | hit_: html metadata should tell you which encoding the file is in |
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| 15:51.22 | JoelJo | SynrG, thanks |
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| 15:52.19 | ewew | alebeta Let try to add to boot line root=/dev/sda1. |
| 15:52.35 | jelly | hit_: are these files publically available somewhere to take a look? |
| 15:52.39 | hit_ | jelly: ooh yes, that's clear now. Thank you very much! |
| 15:53.17 | hit_ | yep its an spanish forum at http://www.forocoches.com. It's on ISO-8859-1 |
| 15:53.30 | alebeta | ewew, in the linux line? |
| 15:53.47 | jelly | alright, you figured that out |
| 15:54.22 | ewew | alebeta Yes. I had this all the time on eyes. |
| 15:54.57 | alebeta | ok let me restart and we will se c: |
| 15:55.02 | ewew | alebeta It is simple. When root is not available the init cant be found. |
| 15:55.50 | ewew | alebeta Just last resource tip. |
| 15:55.55 | alebeta | the line now look like: linux /boot/vmlinuz..... root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet |
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| 15:56.22 | ewew | alebeta ok |
| 15:56.24 | alebeta | ewew, what mean this ro at the end? |
| 15:57.02 | ewew | alebeta To mount root initially as read-only. Dont worry about it. It is not important. |
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| 15:57.37 | alebeta | the same |
| 15:58.01 | alebeta | not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel |
| 15:58.03 | alebeta | ewew, |
| 15:58.21 | ewew | alebeta What debian version do you use ? |
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| 15:58.31 | alebeta | Debian 7 |
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| 16:01.42 | ewew | alebeta Do you think is it worth trying to fix it ? |
| 16:01.52 | HeavyMetal-2 | hi I am wondering what would cause this error at boot https://paste.aseriesoftubez.com/p/1444203649-G4nKz.txt |
| 16:01.53 | HeavyMetal-2 | I have to start networking manually at each reboot |
| 16:01.59 | marioxcc | Hello. I want to install LXDE in Debian 8 without extras (no LibreOffice, Iceweasel, and similar programs that are NOT part of LXDE). I have noticed that by default, the LXDE CD installs those extras. Following a previous recommendation, I have installed a text-only environment, then I'm going to install the graphical environment with aptitude. I noticed that there are 4 relevant packages: lxde, lxde-common, lxde-core and task-lxde, and for each o |
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| 16:02.36 | alebeta | hahahaha why? |
| 16:02.37 | alebeta | ewew, |
| 16:03.06 | alebeta | well i need fix hehehe if i dont fix the server, no server and no server no good hahahahaha |
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| 16:03.58 | petn-randall | marioxcc: look at the dependencies each package has. From my guess lxde-core would be the minimal LXDE, and lxde/task-lxde would be the complete tools that come with a LXDE release. |
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| 16:04.07 | ewew | alebeta Boot rescue and reinstall sysvinit. If it does not work then i dont know. You can wait for someone who could help you. |
| 16:04.31 | Iridos | dpkg, install lxde |
| 16:04.32 | dpkg | To install <LXDE> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «apt-get install lxde». To install using Debian-Installer (if not using LXDE CD-1): from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose "LXDE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then "Continue"; an Internet connection may be required to obtain these packages. |
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| 16:04.59 | alebeta | ok ok |
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| 16:05.12 | Iridos | marioxcc, ^^^^ if the lxde package depends on too many things for your liking, you can install it with --no-recommends or instead install the lxde-core package |
| 16:05.19 | alebeta | how i reinstall this sysvinit ? ewew which is the best ? |
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| 16:05.57 | Iridos | marioxcc, err, that's --no-install-recommends for apt-get and --without-recommends for aptitude |
| 16:06.14 | marioxcc | petn-randall: Ok, that's what I'm doing. I think that the complete environment you talk about is the "task" one. |
| 16:06.19 | ewew | alebeta Simply just copy it from debian repository and use "dpkg -i package_name"/ |
| 16:06.31 | alebeta | ewew, ok ok c: |
| 16:06.43 | ewew | alebeta without last character after " |
| 16:06.51 | marioxcc | Iridos: Exactly, there are several sensible (at a glance) combinations. Should I go with -R and "lxde" or "lxde-core" without -R? |
| 16:06.58 | ewew | alebeta "dpkg -i package_name" |
| 16:06.58 | jelly | marioxcc: apt-cache show packagename will show you the dependencies (what a metapackage pulls in) |
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| 16:07.29 | Iridos | marioxcc, well, you want to install only a sub-set... I can hardly decide that for you |
| 16:07.50 | ewew | jelly Do you know ho to fix kernel panic with messages no init can be found ? |
| 16:08.31 | marioxcc | Iridos: I want to install LXDE without extras (that is it, only LXDE itself, including gcalculator and so on, but without Iceweasel, LibreOffice and similar ones). |
| 16:08.40 | jelly | ewew: that's really too vague to tell... so, probably |
| 16:09.00 | jelly | ewew: try booting an older kernel if you can pick one from the boot loader menu |
| 16:09.12 | marioxcc | jelly: I'm taking a look. Is there a similar command in aptitude?. |
| 16:09.15 | Iridos | marioxcc, jelly told you how to check which packages are installed by the meta-package... see what fits your need |
| 16:09.38 | jelly | marioxcc: there probably is, but I don't know it |
| 16:10.09 | Iridos | it's... (dramatic pause) aptitude show lxde |
| 16:10.17 | ewew | jelly http://pastebin.com/UcdYz3am |
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| 16:10.33 | alebeta | ewew, debian has a search to find the package in the repositories? |
| 16:10.44 | marioxcc | Iridos, jelly: ok. |
| 16:10.45 | marioxcc | Thanks. |
| 16:10.45 | Iridos | that doesn't give the identical output, though... and I don't see what's the point wanting to do that with aptitude anyway |
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| 16:11.10 | marioxcc | Well, it's more convenient to do that within aptitude if I'm selecting packages to install with aptitude. |
| 16:11.16 | JyZyXEL | why does KDE chown /run/user/1000/pulse to root:root when ever i plug in a USB storage stick? |
| 16:11.25 | jelly | ewew: that really doesn't give a lot of info. Do you have an older or different kernel in boot loader menu, to try? |
| 16:11.56 | JyZyXEL | it does some kind of root elevation to mount that stick and that causes the chownage? |
| 16:12.01 | ewew | jelly Any attempt to fix failed. |
| 16:12.27 | jelly | ewew: sorry to hear that. Can you answer my quesito |
| 16:12.42 | ewew | jelly no |
| 16:13.04 | ewew | jelly He does not have any other kernel. |
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| 16:13.50 | alebeta | ewew, i already found the package c: |
| 16:13.56 | shaun413 | hi |
| 16:13.59 | shaun413 | having an issue |
| 16:14.00 | jelly | ewew: in that case, you will have to boot a liveusb, or livecd or rescue image (or even debian installer), mount your OS and try to fix it from there |
| 16:14.09 | shaun413 | I try to import cv in a python code |
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| 16:14.15 | shaun413 | and says no package cv available |
| 16:14.19 | shaun413 | any help? |
| 16:14.23 | shaun413 | I have opencv installed |
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| 16:16.03 | abferm | sooo, how does debian handle permissions for ping? On my local host I can ping anyone just fine, but on my armhf host I get the error "ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted" I checked the permissions of /bin/ping on both, and they are the same. |
| 16:16.39 | petn-randall | abferm: apparmor/selinux might stop you from this. |
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| 16:17.39 | dutchfish | shaun413, tried import cv2 ? |
| 16:17.40 | Jef91 | Anyone around that knows there way around reprepro? I mistakenly deleted a but of deb files from my server, but the reprepro package list still contains all of their names. How can I have reprepro update its package lists to reflect the deb files that are actually still there? |
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| 16:22.06 | BadCodSmell | How can I search my fonts to see if they contain a representation for a specific unicode symbol? |
| 16:22.08 | alebeta | ewew, i lose the connection ^^ im back |
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| 16:23.05 | dutchfish | Jef91, depending on the repo, a sync would solve that i gues, see manual about conf/updates |
| 16:24.22 | ewew | alebeta Did it help ? |
| 16:24.27 | dutchfish | Jef91, but having a backup is always better |
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| 16:24.50 | alebeta | well i did the reinstallation of sysvinit and nothing |
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| 16:25.16 | alebeta | ewew, now i will try install the kernel package from 20 sept, because i supouse the bad one is the other from 5 augst |
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| 16:25.32 | abferm | petn-randall: selinux looks promising, I have it installed on my local machine, and they have something specificly for ping. Any idea where it loads that config from on debian? |
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| 16:27.18 | ewew | alebeta And in grub add this lines root =/dev/sda1 init=/sbin/init debug |
| 16:27.18 | ewew | remove work quiet. |
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| 16:29.08 | ewew | correction remove word quiet |
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| 16:30.51 | AvatarA | can't alebeta pastebin "fdisk -l" and grub.cfg? |
| 16:31.31 | ewew | AvatarA He does not have a connection to internet on that server. |
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| 16:32.05 | alebeta | let me see i can access locally now and can paste from the console |
| 16:32.08 | AvatarA | mount usb, fdisk -l > file |
| 16:32.08 | alebeta | copy* |
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| 16:34.37 | alebeta | ok ewew trying |
| 16:35.20 | alebeta | ewew, ok i have the same error, but exactly before the error i have two lines |
| 16:35.33 | ewew | paste the here |
| 16:35.49 | alebeta | "failed to execute /init" and "failed to execute /sbin/init. Attemting defaults." |
| 16:35.51 | alebeta | ewew, |
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| 16:36.13 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 16:37.02 | marioxcc | I find that selecting "lxde" for installation under "aptitude -R" selects some other packages for installation but doesn't marks them as "automatically installed" (as it should, as far as I know), why is it that? |
| 16:37.05 | ewew | alebeta I dont know whats wrong. |
| 16:37.36 | alebeta | me too.... i dont understand why this server has this error :S was working normal |
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| 16:38.21 | petn-randall | marioxcc: This sounds new to me. Which packages get marked as manually installed, besides the ones you marked? |
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| 16:39.00 | marioxcc | petn-randall: It was some libraries. I don't recall the exact name. Is it important?. I can look it up, but it will take a bit of time and effort. |
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| 16:41.05 | petn-randall | marioxcc: Not really, unless the question of why interests you. |
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| 16:47.03 | alebeta | ewew, what do you think about that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228437&page=2 ? scroll down to see the solution |
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| 16:47.54 | eyebrowns | ps aux command output PID 1 /sbin/init, but i cant use "service isso start". it show me: Failed to start isso.service: Unit isso.service failed to load: No such file or directory. |
| 16:48.18 | ewew | alebeta This is what we been doing. |
| 16:48.30 | petn-randall | eyebrowns: The error message is telling you that this service doesn't exist. Should it exist? |
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| 16:48.55 | eyebrowns | petn-randall, it is. i made autorun script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 16:49.05 | alebeta | i will reinstall c: |
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| 16:49.19 | alebeta | hahahahahahahaha xD and make my own installation lol |
| 16:49.51 | eyebrowns | i am confused, i am using sysvinit, but system output me systemd messages |
| 16:51.47 | petn-randall | eyebrowns: what does 'ls -l /sbin/init' show you? |
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| 16:52.04 | petn-randall | eyebrowns: /sbin/init is a symlink to either systemd or sysv-init. |
| 16:52.20 | petn-randall | (or upstart, openrc, etc.) |
| 16:52.35 | eyebrowns | /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd |
| 16:53.04 | marioxcc | petn-randall: The "packages to install" are "lxde" (which should be there as I selected it manually), "libpango1.0-0", "libpangox-1.0-0" and "lxde-core", which I think shouldn't be there. |
| 16:53.37 | marioxcc | The other packages that will be installed to meet dependencies are under a different category (in aptitude review of changes to be performed). |
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| 16:57.09 | jelly | ,depends lxde |
| 16:57.10 | judd | Package lxde in jessie/amd64 -- depends: galculator, gpicview, leafpad, lxappearance, lxappearance-obconf, lxde-core, lxde-icon-theme, lxinput, lxrandr, lxsession-edit, lxterminal, xarchiver. |
| 16:57.27 | jelly | marioxcc: lxde Depends: lxde-core |
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| 16:58.09 | shaun413 | dutchfish: its not my code tbh |
| 16:58.15 | shaun413 | im just trying to get a program to work |
| 16:58.35 | dutchfish | shaun413, ok |
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| 16:58.41 | shaun413 | o idk |
| 16:58.43 | shaun413 | so |
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| 16:58.57 | sidi | Anyone here who has used dh_usrlocal before and can help me? i'm trying to make a Debian package with a *file* in /usr/local/bin but not a directory. If I understand properly, I should map the directory that contains my target file to usr/local/bin in my "install" file and then let dh_usrlocal do its job? |
| 16:59.32 | eyebrowns | so where debian store systemd autorun scripts? |
| 17:00.05 | jelly | sidi: uh... what the hell is dh_usrlocal and what is it supposed to do? |
| 17:00.08 | dutchfish | ik twijfel nog aan :url |
| 17:00.14 | dutchfish | oops, wrong channel |
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| 17:01.08 | sidi | jelly, dh_usrlocal is what is needed for a package to install files in /usr/local. It gets called when the installed files of a package contain a /usr/local directory and it'll fail if you map files from your build dir to your install dir in "install" unless you override it. |
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| 17:01.26 | jelly | sidi: are you sure about that? |
| 17:01.29 | sidi | Still, Launchpad (and possibly other repos...) will fail to build packages that override dh_usrlocal and install files to /usr/local "manually" |
| 17:01.44 | jelly | sidi: "dh_usrlocal is a debhelper program that can be used for building packages that will provide a subdirectory in /usr/local when installed." |
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| 17:01.47 | sidi | jelly, no, but that's what i've understood so far from my build attempts. if you want to shed some light feel free to |
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| 17:02.04 | jelly | sidi: does dh_install not do the right thing? |
| 17:02.16 | jelly | sidi: show your .install file |
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| 17:02.40 | sidi | jelly, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/220540588/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.libpreload-logger_0.23_BUILDING.txt.gz is the build log, dh_gencontrol seems to be failing, saying "Found files in /usr/local (must be in /usr)" |
| 17:02.43 | marioxcc | In aptitude, how can I install a package WITHOUT its recommends, yet install any recommends of any other package that is going to be automatically installed?. |
| 17:02.44 | jelly | er, debian/install or debian/whatever.install |
| 17:02.49 | sidi | I may be looking at the completely wrong problem though |
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| 17:03.09 | marioxcc | I want to install the package "lxde" without is recommends, but I want to install the recommends of all packages that are going to be installed automatically. |
| 17:03.19 | sidi | jelly, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ucl-cs-study-devs/activityfinder/preload-logger-no-chromium/files/head:/debian/ |
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| 17:04.46 | jelly | sidi: do I want to know why you have both a debian/install and two separate per-package ones, referencing same paths |
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| 17:05.28 | underArcus | Hi, for some reason my debian install doesn't boot graphically anymore |
| 17:06.08 | jelly | sidi: er, nevermind, I don't think I ever messed with a multi-binary-package source |
| 17:06.20 | underArcus | I can log in and start x but I'd like to be thrown into xfce directly. How do I fix this? I have no clue what I did for the system to start that way |
| 17:06.26 | sidi | jelly, because I have absolutely no clue how Debian packages work and I was told to do that to separate my lib package and dev package (and might've misunderstood what I was told) |
| 17:06.48 | sidi | jelly, also i'm very time-pressured so I tend to stop working as soon as my packages work as expected on the end-user side :-) |
| 17:06.55 | underArcus | it' a debian 3.265-1+deb7u2 |
| 17:07.17 | JyZyXEL | why does "/sbin/mdadm --monitor --scan" keep getting started after using apt-get, even though i have "START_DAEMON=false" in /etc/default/mdadm? |
| 17:07.25 | eyebrowns | how to use this new crazy systemd system (lol) anyone knows? |
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| 17:09.45 | KaiserA | Hey, what's all the fuzz with systemD, like it actually affects non server users? |
| 17:10.23 | sidi | eyebrowns, http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html there's also a 2, 3 and 4 |
| 17:10.43 | KaiserA | Thanks I'll give it a read! |
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| 17:11.47 | rainfyre | underArcus: apt-get install lightdm |
| 17:12.24 | eyebrowns | i still dont understand. one of main sysadmin rules is to not touch working things or change them. kinda. and now it is what we actually doing. |
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| 17:13.53 | jelly | sidi: honestly this looks like an ubuntu-specific issue. can you try building on actual debian to see if it happens here? |
| 17:14.14 | sidi | jelly, i'm talking with the Launchpad staff right now, as indeed debuild-ing myself seems to work just fine |
| 17:14.20 | sidi | Thanks for having a look though |
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| 17:14.36 | underArcus | rainfyre: now it's coming back to me! I was installing a fancy window manager |
| 17:14.49 | underArcus | ugh.. If only I knew which files I touched |
| 17:14.56 | jelly | sidi: I suspect they're running extra checks at dh_builddeb time |
| 17:15.07 | jelly | at least that's what the log suggests |
| 17:15.42 | underArcus | is there something like dpkg -s \*dm ? |
| 17:15.48 | sidi | jelly, in that case would I be able to override those rules? or that depends on how their build bot is configured? |
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| 17:15.54 | jelly | if you're intent on breaking policy for some locally used package, don't see a reason why dh would stop you in such an ugly way |
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| 17:16.32 | jelly | sidi: no idea where those rules even are |
| 17:16.50 | sidi | no worries |
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| 17:18.02 | underArcus | dpkg -s awesome gives me status: install ok installed |
| 17:18.02 | dpkg | You Fool! awesome gives me status: install ok installed is installed! |
| 17:18.27 | underArcus | huh? |
| 17:18.50 | ewew | underArcus It is a bot response. |
| 17:19.16 | underArcus | not sure what it's trying to tell me |
| 17:19.32 | ewew | underArcus It reacts on word "dpkg" |
| 17:20.02 | underArcus | anyway, I wrecked my x11 config. the system doesn't boot graphically anymore. where do I start looking? |
| 17:20.26 | ewew | underArcus First your debian version ? |
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| 17:20.47 | underArcus | it' a debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 |
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| 17:21.16 | ewew | underArcus Do you have any special settings in Xorg.conf ? |
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| 17:22.21 | underArcus | where is this file? /etc/x11/xorg.conf.d is empty |
| 17:22.34 | jelly | sidi: even if interesting, ultimately your question has just given me another reason to dismiss any questions about derivative distros as soon as possible |
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| 17:23.07 | ewew | underArcus Ok. Look at logs in /var/log. |
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| 17:23.13 | sidi | jelly, most of the time Debian packaging experts are found on Debian ;-) |
| 17:23.16 | jelly | doesn't like debugging things that can't even happen in debian at all |
| 17:23.17 | underArcus | ewew: disregard. I have three files in there 20-fglrx.con and larger-virtual.conf |
| 17:23.49 | sidi | My original issue (how to package that thing properly) was a Debian one (i.e. had to override dh_usrlocal since I'm installing a file and not a directory), by the way |
| 17:23.50 | underArcus | I remember trying to increase the resolution on my extra monitor |
| 17:24.13 | jelly | ah |
| 17:24.18 | eyebrowns | just to be sure, debian stores systemd autorun acripts in /lib/systemd/system/? they actually looks like conf files, than bash scripts |
| 17:24.24 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 17:24.33 | abferm | If anyone is curious I found the answer to my ping problem, I was missing the cap_net_raw+ep capability for /bin/ping on my armhf host. |
| 17:24.37 | ewew | underArcus What does say Xorg.0.log ? |
| 17:24.40 | jelly | eyebrowns: do you mean service unit definitions? |
| 17:24.53 | jelly | eyebrowns: they're not scripts at all |
| 17:25.04 | underArcus | ewew: a lot of things. what am I looking for? |
| 17:25.05 | eyebrowns | jelly, i just want to make my own service autostart each time boot up |
| 17:25.26 | underArcus | last line is 210.813 Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. |
| 17:25.29 | marioxcc | I am trying to install LXDE without the extras (components not part of LXDE installed as part of the Debian desktop environment, that is it: LibreOffice, VLC, and so on). |
| 17:25.35 | ewew | underArcus Something that look weird or it is a error. |
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| 17:25.46 | abferm | eyebrows: you can write a systemd service that starts whatever script you want |
| 17:25.46 | ewew | underArcus or pastebin. |
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| 17:25.57 | jelly | eyebrowns: put your custom unit definition in /etc/systemd/system/ |
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| 17:26.24 | jelly | marioxcc: you said that already |
| 17:26.45 | jelly | marioxcc: did you notice that... lxde Depends: lxde-core |
| 17:26.45 | marioxcc | I have installed "lxde-core" and "lxde" (the later with no recommends or "-R" in aptitude), but I don't get a working graphical environment with either. The system still boots into console mode. |
| 17:27.03 | marioxcc | jelly: Yes, but the 2 options still give different results. |
| 17:27.05 | underArcus | ewew: how can I paste from console? |
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| 17:27.16 | jelly | marioxcc: you need to install xorg, and one Display Manager |
| 17:27.17 | underArcus | I'm not on that box right now |
| 17:27.31 | underArcus | I have internet there tho |
| 17:27.58 | ewew | Try ssh to send the file to working computer. |
| 17:28.23 | marioxcc | jelly: I see. Will LXSession work as a display manager?. |
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| 17:28.47 | jelly | marioxcc: I have no idea what lxsession is, sorry |
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| 17:29.07 | marioxcc | jelly: It's fine. |
| 17:29.09 | jelly | judd: whatprovides x-display-manager |
| 17:29.13 | judd | Package x-display-manager in jessie/amd64 is provided by: gdm3, kdm, lightdm, slim, wdm, xdm. |
| 17:29.21 | jelly | one of those, marioxcc |
| 17:29.58 | jelly | or use /usr/bin/startlxde after logging in, I guess |
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| 17:30.47 | marioxcc | jelly: Ok, thanks you very much. |
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| 17:53.08 | underArcus | ok, so I have awesome (the display manager) installed but the system isn't booting into it. How do I fix it? |
| 17:53.17 | marioxcc | Hello. |
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| 17:53.36 | marioxcc | What's the name of the tool used to enable HTTPS package repositories? |
| 17:53.44 | cheapie | Isn't awesome a window manager? |
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| 17:54.43 | Brigo | marioxcc, there is not https, afaik |
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| 17:54.54 | underArcus | cheapie: true |
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| 17:55.07 | marioxcc | Brigo: I recall seeing one such tool being mentioned in this channel. |
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| 17:55.56 | Brigo | marioxcc, not me. |
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| 17:56.53 | marioxcc | Brigo: Ok. |
| 17:56.55 | cheapie | Looks like apt-transport-https. |
| 17:56.56 | underArcus | I have lightdm installed |
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| 17:57.22 | Brigo | marioxcc, i just saying i have never saw it, :) |
| 17:57.32 | Brigo | s/saw/seen/ |
| 17:57.47 | marioxcc | Brigo: It's fine. I know that you didn't say that it didn't exist. |
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| 17:58.06 | marioxcc | Indeed it is apt-transport-https. |
| 17:58.25 | marioxcc | cheapie: Where can I find a list of Debian HTTPS mirrors?. |
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| 17:58.56 | underArcus | the lightdm log is full of debug messages |
| 17:59.36 | Brigo | marioxcc, i bet in the package's documentation. |
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| 17:59.53 | marioxcc | Brigo: Right. I will take a look. |
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| 18:05.11 | underArcus | ewew: pastebin.com/f2JLvZds |
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| 18:05.26 | underArcus | note: I have lightdm installed and it has a log. Posting that as well |
| 18:07.03 | underArcus | pastebin.com/sdR9BK4u |
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| 18:07.54 | goiken | My /var/log/syslog has swollen to 17G and I just discovered, that it contains about 17 Million lines saying something like 'Oct 7 19:59:26 stanis neutron-linuxbridge-agent[1239]: 2015-10-07 19:59:26.514 1239 ERROR oslo_messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [req-c995a5a7-299e-448d-8900-caf9270b987d ] AMQP server on 127.0.0.1:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED. Trying again in 2 seconds.' with varying timestamps. Any idea what it means? |
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| 18:11.28 | ewew | underArcus How many things did you change in your config files. |
| 18:11.42 | ewew | underArcus ? |
| 18:12.07 | underArcus | ewew: I'm checking |
| 18:12.21 | underArcus | I have a xorg.conf.bu |
| 18:12.40 | ewew | underArcus Next time make a backup of the files and then edit them. |
| 18:12.59 | underArcus | I certainly hope that's what I did |
| 18:13.08 | somiaj | goiken: you have some app (neutron-linuxbridge-agent) trying to connect to localhost (127.0.0.1) on port 5672 and failing. Is this an app you need to use, if so you need to ensure the AMQP server it is looking for is linstening on the desired port. Or just disable/remove this service. |
| 18:13.31 | somiaj | goiken: I'm unfamilar with both neutron-linuxbridge-agent and AMQP servers, but that is what that error is saying is happening |
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| 18:14.05 | underArcus | ewew: the xorg.conf.bu holds four sections for LVDS and CRT1 |
| 18:14.09 | underArcus | do you want to see it? |
| 18:14.46 | underArcus | where is my system being told to run lightdm (presumably?) and then fails? or is awesome the problem? |
| 18:15.00 | underArcus | I'm very confused about where even to start |
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| 18:15.23 | minty | Hello. Is there Cinnamon included during standard Debian installation? |
| 18:15.26 | ewew | underArcus Post the files. |
| 18:15.50 | jelly | ,v cinnamon |
| 18:15.51 | judd | Package: cinnamon on amd64 -- jessie: 2.2.16-5; sid: 2.6.13-1; stretch: 2.6.13-1 |
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| 18:16.09 | jelly | minty: no, but you can install it |
| 18:16.15 | somiaj | minty: depends. By default gnome is the desktop, but if you tell debian to install cinnamon during the install it iwll |
| 18:16.27 | underArcus | ewew: xorg.conf.bu pastebin/100MHyVU |
| 18:16.33 | somiaj | minty: the netinstaller will give you the choice of de's to install. You can also download cd1 for teh cinnamon desktop I belive. |
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| 18:17.21 | minty | somiaj: Will DVD version include Cinnamon? I'm everyday user and don't want to manually install Cinnamon later. |
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| 18:18.26 | ewew | underArcus Does not work. |
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| 18:19.49 | ewew | underArcus It works. |
| 18:20.11 | underArcus | ewew: lightdm.conf pastebin/YGsH2Dve |
| 18:20.14 | somiaj | minty: I belive so. I personally suggest the netinstall image, but dvd1 should include all the major desktops. I have not tested this though. |
| 18:20.59 | underArcus | pastebin.com that is.. |
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| 18:21.14 | underArcus | pastebin.com/YGsH2Dve |
| 18:21.47 | ewew | underArcus When it stopped working ? After your edit ? |
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| 18:22.36 | underArcus | If I remember correctly I was trying to get my extra display to work correctly (i.e. the max resolution) |
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| 18:24.04 | ewew | underArcus I suggest to rewrite the configuration. If still not working check the Xserver irc channel. |
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| 18:24.22 | underArcus | ewew: which configuration should I rewrite? |
| 18:24.25 | underArcus | and to what? |
| 18:24.52 | ewew | underArcus Or try to leave it to autoconfig. |
| 18:25.08 | underArcus | can I kick off autoconfig? |
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| 18:25.34 | ewew | underArcus Are you using non-free driver ? |
| 18:25.49 | underArcus | not sure |
| 18:25.53 | underArcus | how would I check? |
| 18:27.11 | underArcus | and what driver are you talking about? |
| 18:27.21 | underArcus | graphic card? |
| 18:27.28 | underArcus | noveau isn't installed |
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| 18:27.31 | ewew | underArcus graphic card. |
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| 18:29.22 | goiken | So how can I find out which process is flooding my syslog or what might be causing this? |
| 18:29.47 | somiaj | goiken: the process name and PID is printed in the syslog |
| 18:29.52 | ewew | underArcus Did you need to setup the config before your layout can be used ? |
| 18:31.09 | ewew | [ Â 3879.148] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian[ Â 3879.148] Current Operating System: Linux hvar 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 x86_64 ? |
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| 18:33.28 | ewew | underArcus Did you install newer version of xorg in older debian ? |
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| 18:34.02 | goiken | somiaj: So I'd just say `apt-get remove neutron-linuxbridge-agent` to get rid of it?! (I never consciously installed it anyways) |
| 18:34.45 | somiaj | goiken: if you don't think you need that. Pay attention to anything else that gets removed, as maybe it was pulled in by something else you need |
| 18:34.51 | somiaj | ,v neutron-linuxbridge-agent |
| 18:34.52 | judd | Package: neutron-linuxbridge-agent on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 2015.1.0-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2015.1.0+2015.06.24.git61.bdf194a0e1-4; sid: 2015.1.0+2015.06.24.git61.bdf194a0e1-4; experimental: 1:7.0.0~rc1-1 |
| 18:35.15 | JyZyXEL | where can i see the ./configure options used in a debian package? |
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| 18:35.17 | underArcus | ewew: I did configure lightdm |
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| 18:36.20 | greycat | JyZyXEL: in the Debian source patch, typically in the "debian/rules" file |
| 18:36.26 | JyZyXEL | yup, found it |
| 18:36.36 | ewew | underArcus Did you comment something or changed something ? |
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| 18:38.38 | joker_89 | hi |
| 18:38.52 | joker_89 | why i dont have the partition type FD option in my linux distro :( ? |
| 18:38.58 | joker_89 | I only have LINUX RAID option |
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| 18:40.10 | ewew | underArcus The file is in default state. |
| 18:40.21 | underArcus | ewew: yes but I don't remember what exactly I did |
| 18:40.28 | underArcus | which one |
| 18:41.10 | trickshotjohnny | joker_89: are you using fdisk or gdisk? |
| 18:41.18 | joker_89 | fdisk |
| 18:41.24 | joker_89 | but gdisk says the same |
| 18:41.30 | joker_89 | my debian is in spanish |
| 18:41.47 | joker_89 | there are options from 1 to 65 |
| 18:41.51 | joker_89 | so 64 partition types |
| 18:41.58 | joker_89 | from number 1 to number 65 |
| 18:42.11 | joker_89 | i dont know which is the 0xFD option |
| 18:42.18 | tremon | joker_89: try running LC_ALL=C fdisk |
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| 18:42.26 | joker_89 | where? |
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| 18:42.54 | tremon | as root, on your spanish box :) |
| 18:42.58 | rainfyre | lol |
| 18:43.00 | ewew | underArcus Dont know whats wrong. You can try reinstall X and lightdm or wait for someone who could help. |
| 18:43.21 | joker_89 | it only shows a help menu |
| 18:43.22 | joker_89 | for fdisk |
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| 18:44.00 | greycat | joker_89: but in English, yes? |
| 18:44.12 | joker_89 | yes |
| 18:44.17 | tremon | of course, you need to provide the disk you're running against, so LC_ALL=C fdisk /dev/sda or suchlike |
| 18:44.30 | joker_89 | ah ok |
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| 18:44.48 | tremon | LC_ALL simply overrides the environment's current language |
| 18:45.11 | joker_89 | But types are the same |
| 18:45.24 | joker_89 | why on internet people says FD type |
| 18:45.30 | joker_89 | if it doesnt exist |
| 18:45.32 | tremon | ah, I see what you're getting at |
| 18:45.32 | joker_89 | :S |
| 18:45.38 | tremon | tried the same just here |
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| 18:45.51 | joker_89 | i want to mount a soft raid 1 |
| 18:45.58 | tremon | apparently newer fdisk has gotten support for gpt partitioning |
| 18:46.10 | tremon | joker_89: "linux_raid" is number 21 |
| 18:46.20 | joker_89 | but is not linux raid autodetect |
| 18:46.22 | joker_89 | is the same? |
| 18:46.35 | tremon | I'm guessing it is, yes |
| 18:46.57 | joker_89 | and what means FD? |
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| 18:47.13 | tremon | FD is the partition type for linux raid on MBR style partitions |
| 18:47.18 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to --purge the current kernel you are running? |
| 18:47.30 | trickshotjohnny | 0xfd00 is the gpt type, too |
| 18:47.43 | tremon | GPT style partitions don't use the single-byte partition type, they use GUIDs |
| 18:47.55 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: yes but dpkg will complain and make you confirm that what you are doing could be a very bad idea |
| 18:47.59 | joker_89 | ok |
| 18:48.15 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: whats going to happen? |
| 18:48.18 | joker_89 | but 21 'linux raid' is the same |
| 18:48.32 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: i.e. you will remove all modules so if any module needs to be loaded into memory, this will fail. If you do not have another kernel installed, you won't be able to boot the system again once it is shut down. |
| 18:48.56 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: usully one installs a new kernel, boots that new kernel and once you are sure everything is fine, remove the old kenrel. You can have more than one kernel installed. |
| 18:49.09 | tremon | joker_89: I'm guessing it is. I've been running linux raid on gpt partitions for five years, and never had an issue with autodetect |
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| 18:49.42 | somiaj | joker_89: just note the partition ID really doens't mean much. It can be useful to the admin, but you could easily put a ext4 file system on a fat32 partiiton ID |
| 18:49.48 | underArcus | thanks ewew, I'll keep looking |
| 18:50.10 | tremon | joker_89: yet none of my partitions are marked as linux raid autodetect |
| 18:50.54 | joker_89 | I see |
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| 18:52.09 | mi11k1 | what is the easiest simplest way to set up an email server? |
| 18:52.09 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: im just trying to do a re-install because i think "make install" has done something to the modules |
| 18:52.29 | mi11k1 | Just for like 5 users |
| 18:53.12 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: you shoudln't have to purge the old kerenel to install a new kernel, you compile the kernel into a .deb right? |
| 18:53.28 | JyZyXEL | i already did it all |
| 18:53.31 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: or do you just run make install (you can just run that over the old kernel), but you should really use 'make deb-pkg' and make debian kernel packages. |
| 18:53.42 | JyZyXEL | i meant "make install" on lirc |
| 18:54.02 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: worst case is you will have to use a recovery tool to get your system working. But you should be fine. (famous last words) |
| 18:54.20 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: also if compiling a kernel from source, use 'make deb-pkg', it is better to manage the kernels that way in my opinoin |
| 18:54.31 | JyZyXEL | im trying to just get lirc working |
| 18:54.47 | mi11k1 | JyZyXEL: for IR? |
| 18:54.49 | somiaj | I don't know much about lirc, so cna't help you there. |
| 18:54.51 | JyZyXEL | yeah |
| 18:55.01 | mi11k1 | i got it down on rpi pretty easy |
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| 18:55.13 | JyZyXEL | its hard to get working after u've had it installed from the sources |
| 18:55.15 | mi11k1 | hold on lemme check my notes |
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| 18:55.36 | mi11k1 | what is it? jessie? |
| 18:55.38 | JyZyXEL | because you know how "make uninstall" really never works |
| 18:55.46 | JyZyXEL | wheezy |
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| 18:57.13 | mi11k1 | JyZyXEL: what kind of IR receiver? |
| 18:57.15 | mi11k1 | usb? |
| 18:57.20 | JyZyXEL | yeah, mceusb |
| 18:57.39 | JyZyXEL | doesn't work anymore after a reboot :P |
| 18:57.46 | mi11k1 | you want me to dcc you my config files? |
| 18:57.51 | JyZyXEL | no |
| 18:57.52 | mi11k1 | so you can check them out? |
| 18:58.08 | mi11k1 | oh, it works already? |
| 18:58.09 | rainfyre | JyZyXEL: have you tried checkingstall? |
| 18:58.11 | shaun413 | hello all |
| 18:58.14 | rainfyre | *checkinstall |
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| 18:58.20 | JyZyXEL | rainfyre: back then i didn't know about checkinstall |
| 18:58.25 | shaun413 | can I have some help with a module issue? |
| 18:58.43 | JyZyXEL | not that lirc even works with checkinstall anyways |
| 18:58.47 | mi11k1 | JyZyXEL: so you need to enable lirc service on boot |
| 18:59.06 | JyZyXEL | the udev rule takes care of that |
| 18:59.12 | mi11k1 | is there anything in /etc/default? |
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| 18:59.47 | mi11k1 | i dunno, i would try and update-rd.d too |
| 18:59.52 | shaun413 | http://pastebin.com/aDseRg3n |
| 18:59.56 | shaun413 | heres the issue Im having |
| 19:00.06 | shaun413 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.06 | shaun413 | ImportError: No module named cv |
| 19:00.10 | shaun413 | mainly this.. |
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| 19:01.41 | tremon | shaun413: wrong channel? |
| 19:01.46 | shaun413 | no? |
| 19:01.51 | shaun413 | im running debian |
| 19:01.55 | mi11k1 | shaun413: did you install the .deb? |
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| 19:02.01 | shaun413 | i was told in opencv this is a debian issue |
| 19:02.03 | mi11k1 | i installed it today on ubuntu |
| 19:02.06 | joker_89 | i have a partition with luks, how can ir emove it |
| 19:02.08 | shaun413 | what .deb? |
| 19:02.17 | joker_89 | iit says type= luks_crypt |
| 19:02.21 | joker_89 | how can i delte it |
| 19:02.21 | mi11k1 | is that mission planner? |
| 19:02.27 | shaun413 | yes |
| 19:02.35 | mi11k1 | theres a .deb for debian |
| 19:02.37 | mi11k1 | wheezy |
| 19:02.48 | shaun413 | no its not mission planner |
| 19:02.51 | mi11k1 | but it install on ubuntu 12.04 flawless for me |
| 19:02.54 | shaun413 | its an SITL for arducopter |
| 19:02.58 | mi11k1 | oh |
| 19:03.29 | shaun413 | im not sure whats wrong, all the packages and dep are installed |
| 19:03.47 | tremon | joker_89: just mkfs it (probably with -f), or use cryptsetup erase first |
| 19:04.08 | mi11k1 | I want to use processing from data at another location, what's the best way to pipe serial data through SSH? |
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| 19:04.15 | shaun413 | been battling this for days |
| 19:05.01 | joker_89 | [tremon] |
| 19:05.15 | joker_89 | I have made mkfs.ext4 and now i have the FD option |
| 19:05.27 | joker_89 | is not the same as before |
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| 19:05.44 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 19:06.21 | kxb901 | minitube in debian is broken for the past 5 months or so, even the one in sid. |
| 19:06.24 | tremon | shaun413: still, we don't know your program nor what library it needs. I could make a guess that 'cv' refers to the python-opencv package |
| 19:06.32 | shaun413 | yes it does |
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| 19:06.49 | jelly | kxb901: youtube-dl seems to be broken a bit as well at least with some sites |
| 19:06.50 | shaun413 | the error is in the opencv |
| 19:07.02 | shaun413 | im trying to use the map module, which runs on opencv |
| 19:07.14 | shaun413 | and it cant find the cv mod for some reason? |
| 19:07.19 | kxb901 | jelly: that's what i've turned to using, although the developer of minitube has a working .deb on his site |
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| 19:08.45 | kxb901 | jelly: when you download from youtube with youtube-dl do your filenames have a random string of characters at the end? |
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| 19:09.57 | jelly | kxb901: right now, it doesn't work. It might be the video id is embedded in the file name format by default... |
| 19:10.24 | kxb901 | it doesn't work at all? i was using it yesterday |
| 19:10.32 | jelly | good for you |
| 19:11.54 | kxb901 | your version must be older. i just tested and it's working for me |
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| 19:12.05 | shaun413 | hmm |
| 19:12.07 | shaun413 | anyone? |
| 19:12.44 | jelly | kxb901: it's quite possible I forgot how to use it |
| 19:13.03 | tremon | shaun413: I'm not familiar enough with opencv nor python to help here. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23962293/installing-opencv-no-module-named-cv2-cv seems to imply that the cv2.cv module is deprecated |
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| 19:13.19 | shaun413 | deprecated? |
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| 19:14.41 | tremon | but I don't know whether that already applies to the package in your debian version |
| 19:14.50 | shaun413 | hm |
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| 19:15.33 | tremon | since it is the cv module itself that imports cv2.cv, I would guess the problem is something else but I don't know |
| 19:15.41 | TomasCZ | Hi, anyone know what to do when usb mouse is not working on first ~0-3 connections to usb port? ultrabook, usb hub, Keyboard always works. |
| 19:15.44 | shaun413 | right |
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| 19:29.11 | jhutchins | TomasCZ: First thing to try is a different mouse. |
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| 19:31.40 | Guest2610 | hello |
| 19:32.57 | Guest2610 | i donwloan libreoffice debs, how this debs can add in synaptic? all debs is in one folder |
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| 19:34.26 | tremon | Guest2610: Why not use the libreoffice version already available through synaptic? |
| 19:35.43 | Guest2610 | i used dvds and in dvd is not last version |
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| 19:36.27 | jhutchins | Guest2610: Did you download them from a Debian mirror? |
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| 19:36.31 | tremon | why do you need latest version? |
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| 19:37.30 | Guest2610 | no i downloan from libreoffice site is zip |
| 19:38.21 | shaun413 | sigh |
| 19:38.27 | shaun413 | how can I edit protected files |
| 19:38.31 | shaun413 | it says im not the owner... |
| 19:38.33 | shaun413 | wth |
| 19:38.36 | jhutchins | Guest2610: It is better to enable the Debian repos and install from them. You will have to do extra work to maintain the non-debian packages. |
| 19:38.59 | jelly | shaun413: what does "ls -ld /path/to/affected/file" say? |
| 19:39.09 | shaun413 | its in the gui |
| 19:39.10 | shaun413 | so IDK |
| 19:39.22 | Guest2610 | i used offline pc |
| 19:39.33 | tremon | shaun413: you need to be root to edit anything outside of your home directory (yeah, lots of buts and ifs to that, but broadly...) |
| 19:39.36 | jelly | shaun413: can't help you then |
| 19:39.45 | shaun413 | why |
| 19:39.48 | shaun413 | I am root |
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| 19:40.26 | tremon | if you are root, "it" should not be complaining about file ownership |
| 19:40.36 | shaun413 | how can I get root in the gui? |
| 19:41.16 | greycat | My preferred way to run a GUI app as root in a session logged in as a normal user is to do "ssh -X root@localhost" in a terminal, then run the GUI apps from there. |
| 19:41.20 | Guest2610 | for self used the dvds |
| 19:41.37 | rainfyre | greycat: that's slick, never seen that before |
| 19:41.42 | greycat | Running a GUI app as root should be rare enough that you don't care about a little performance penalty. |
| 19:41.49 | shaun413 | how to run the gui as root? |
| 19:41.50 | tremon | depends on your desktop. probably through gksudo or kdesudo or |
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| 19:41.57 | greycat | shaun413: My preferred way to run a GUI app as root in a session logged in as a normal user is to do "ssh -X root@localhost" in a terminal, then run the GUI apps from there. |
| 19:42.02 | shaun413 | how? |
| 19:42.08 | greycat | I just told you how. |
| 19:42.10 | shaun413 | i just want to open files |
| 19:42.16 | somiaj | you can also just use sudo, from a terminal inside an xorg session, run 'sudo command' and it will run the command with root permissions inside your current xorg session |
| 19:42.23 | somiaj | shaun413: ^^ |
| 19:42.24 | greycat | Meaning what? You want to run some GUI file manager app? |
| 19:42.32 | beergear | shaun413: the terminal is the best bet |
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| 19:42.37 | shaun413 | suyes |
| 19:42.39 | shaun413 | how |
| 19:42.44 | somiaj | shaun413: might be an xy problem. What files do you want to open and why? |
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| 19:42.47 | shaun413 | i just want to open the file browswer |
| 19:42.48 | greycat | Figure out the name of the app. |
| 19:42.48 | shaun413 | as root |
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| 19:42.52 | shaun413 | files |
| 19:42.56 | shaun413 | thats the name |
| 19:42.56 | jhutchins | shaun413: http://milq.github.io/install-opencv-ubuntu-debian/ http://indranilsinharoy.com/2012/11/01/installing-opencv-on-linux/ |
| 19:43.12 | greycat | shaun413: I am not aware of a file manager named 'files'. |
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| 19:43.29 | tremon | probably gnome's latest attempt at dumbing down their users |
| 19:43.31 | shaun413 | thats what it says |
| 19:43.32 | tremon | ducks |
| 19:43.40 | jelly | >o_/ |
| 19:43.43 | beergear | shaun413: you can run commands as superuser in linux by going to a command line and using 'sudo' |
| 19:43.51 | shaun413 | i know |
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| 19:43.59 | shaun413 | how do i get to the files |
| 19:44.08 | greycat | Which desktop environment are you in? |
| 19:44.11 | beergear | run the file manager as root :) |
| 19:44.12 | somiaj | shaun413: what files? |
| 19:44.12 | shaun413 | idk |
| 19:44.13 | squinty | files is the wonderful and very stupid name that is dirived from nautilus |
| 19:44.18 | shaun413 | a python file |
| 19:44.30 | greycat | If it's a python SCRIPT, you can just run it by name. |
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| 19:44.35 | greycat | ./myscript.py |
| 19:44.40 | shaun413 | idk how to get to it |
| 19:44.43 | greycat | cd |
| 19:44.51 | shaun413 | idk how to get to usr |
| 19:44.55 | greycat | cd /usr |
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| 19:44.56 | shaun413 | it doesnt show up |
| 19:45.01 | greycat | ls |
| 19:45.03 | shaun413 | ok |
| 19:45.14 | somiaj | shaun413: what python script? where is it located? you can run it with 'python name_of_script' or with a proper #!/bin/python as the first line and the executable bit, you can just run the script. |
| 19:45.43 | somiaj | you don't want to copy random scripts to /usr/bin, use /usr/local/bin, though I personally put $HOME/bin in my $PATH and put my users scripts there |
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| 19:47.02 | shaun413 | there we go! |
| 19:47.06 | shaun413 | quick edit in vim and done |
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| 19:49.13 | somiaj | shaun413: note you can run gui editors from the cli too, sudo gedit foo for example. or what ever gui editor you like. I use gvim |
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| 19:50.32 | sine` | So did a ./configure; make and make was not found. I apt-get install build-essential and now when i type make i get this error http://pastebin.com/3J0NuFTU |
| 19:50.37 | sine` | any ideas |
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| 19:51.13 | shaun413 | ok fixed one file |
| 19:51.15 | shaun413 | onto the next.. |
| 19:51.50 | somiaj | shaun413: note if you are editing files in /usr/bin installed by dpkg, these edits may be overwritten the next time package is upgraded. YOu may want to be clear what you are editing to get a better solution. |
| 19:51.57 | jhutchins | sine`: bad makefile? Not meant for use with Debian? |
| 19:52.04 | greycat | sine`: install autoconf and automake |
| 19:52.18 | shaun413 | i know what im editing |
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| 19:52.36 | jhutchins | greycat: Shouldn't build-essential include that? It icludes several kitchen sinks. |
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| 19:53.07 | greycat | jhutchins: no, build-essential is pretty bare bones |
| 19:53.38 | jhutchins | greycat: Last time I looked it was "oh, you need a bigger disk". Maybe it's leaner these days. |
| 19:53.41 | somiaj | lots of software doesn't actually need autoconf, as the ./configure script is already created. |
| 19:53.55 | jhutchins | sine`: Yeah, if those aren't installed you should install them. |
| 19:54.20 | sine` | jhutchins: ok |
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| 19:55.10 | jhutchins | somiaj: Which we note is true in this case (exsting configure). |
| 19:55.33 | greycat | jhutchins: except the ./configure is trying to run aclocal-1.11 |
| 19:55.50 | jhutchins | greycat: Which is strange syntax. |
| 19:55.55 | greycat | So it might be a half-assed ./configure, or something else might have the wrong timestamp, etc. |
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| 19:56.21 | jhutchins | sine`: What sourcecode are you working with? |
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| 20:11.02 | Chaser | Hello, how do I add debian-installer subsection to my apt sources.list ? I have entry as "deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main debian-installer" but doesn't seem to work. |
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| 20:12.56 | somiaj | Chaser: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:13.33 | Chaser | somiaj: I want to install partman-auto package to playaround with it. From what I see its part of debian-installer section. |
| 20:14.27 | somiaj | Chaser: debian-installer packages are special apcakges for the installer and don't work in a normal install. There really is no debian-installer section |
| 20:14.31 | somiaj | ,v partman-auto |
| 20:14.32 | judd | No package named 'partman-auto' was found in amd64. |
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| 20:15.43 | somiaj | Chaser: Chaser there is #debian-boot and #debian-instaler on irc.oftc.net that may have some advise on how to play around with those tools outside of the installer, but I haven't messed with such a thing. |
| 20:15.43 | Chaser | somiaj: I understand it doesn't work in a normal install. I see its a package though, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/partman-auto |
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| 20:16.32 | Chaser | somiaj: Cool, will try those channels. Thanks. |
| 20:17.54 | sine` | greycat: jhutchins: i grabbed a source from kali-linux repo because the spike fuzzer software homepage is down |
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| 20:19.13 | jhutchins | sine`: So "incompatible software" is a likely answer. |
| 20:19.30 | jhutchins | sine`: What package is it? |
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| 20:22.15 | sine` | http://git.kali.org/gitweb/?p=packages/spike.git;a=summary |
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| 20:25.16 | sine` | I gitted it |
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| 20:27.04 | jhutchins | ,v spike |
| 20:27.05 | judd | No package named 'spike' was found in amd64. |
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| 20:28.55 | gefdecue | I changed mac in interfaces according to a tutorial, and now i see the eth0 shows the mac i set, and wlan0 shows my real mac still |
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| 20:29.38 | Atm0spher1c | Trying to build package from debian source. dh is telling me no packages to build. dpkg-genchanges: error: binary build with no binary artifacts found; cannot distribute. How do i fix this? |
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| 20:30.27 | jhutchins | gefdecue: Not all hardware supports mac spoofing. |
| 20:30.45 | gefdecue | jhutchins: mine does. it worked a while ago |
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| 20:31.36 | jhutchins | gefdecue: So do it the way you did before. |
| 20:31.40 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: did u set it on wlan0? |
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| 20:32.45 | gefdecue | gefdecue: before i edited /etc/network/interfaces . however after a major ugrade it didnt work anymore |
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| 20:33.39 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: no |
| 20:33.48 | gefdecue | i added a line to interfaces.// hwaddress ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 |
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| 20:34.43 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: have you tried macchanger? |
| 20:34.45 | jhutchins | gefdecue: What is your goal? |
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| 20:35.27 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: i dont want to install macchanger when a simple edit worked fine before |
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| 20:36.11 | Nicop06 | Hello. I got stuck at "loading initial ramdisk" when rebooting Debian 8 (power on is working). Any clue/ideas I can try? I have grub with efi on a usb drive with 2 partitions (efi boot and btrfs). Thanks |
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| 20:37.04 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: not so simple now is it :D. You'd need to put it under wlan0 in interfaces, if that doesnt work I don't know |
| 20:37.27 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: sounds like it's set under eth0 |
| 20:38.17 | rainfyre | gefdecue: macchanger is easy. and Atm0spher1c is letting you know that you need to specify the interface that you want to change |
| 20:39.01 | gefdecue | should i edit like this: hwaddress ether wlan0 01:02:03:04:05:06 |
| 20:39.04 | gefdecue | ? |
| 20:39.38 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: no, like this - https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 20:39.51 | sine` | jhutchins: can you help me out with this .git clone that I have done |
| 20:40.04 | sine` | I have wiped it and pulled it in again |
| 20:42.23 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: here is how mine looks https://paste.debian.net/314877/ |
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| 20:42.53 | gefdecue | and the mac i added at the end, it shows for eth0, while wlan0 mac is untouched |
| 20:43.09 | Atm0spher1c | How do we build a package from debian source? Using - dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc gives me ERRORS - dh: no packages to build. dpkg-genchanges: error: binary build with no binary artifacts found; cannot distribute. |
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| 20:44.21 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: Yes, you'll have to write a field for wlan0. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration shows you - either with DHCP or set a static address like you have on eth0. And then under that set your mac. |
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| 20:47.16 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: like this? https://paste.debian.net/314880/ |
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| 20:49.04 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: yes something like that ( I can't test it). Might not need the allow-hotplug line, I'm not sure. see if it works. |
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| 20:57.38 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: nope, it didnt work |
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| 20:58.01 | gaccardo | is away: I'm busy |
| 20:58.05 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: nope, it didnt work |
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| 20:58.39 | Atm0spher1c | is the interface up and working? And the mac didnt change? |
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| 20:59.02 | kminor | Hey guys quick question |
| 20:59.11 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: yes interface is up, im connected via wifi now. and the mac is the real one |
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| 20:59.21 | gefdecue | only eth0 shows the new mac |
| 20:59.31 | kminor | Can I dist-upgrade a debian squeeze server directly to jessie or do I need to go in order & do wheezy first? |
| 20:59.43 | rainfyre | kminor: wheezy first |
| 20:59.55 | gaccardo | is back (gone 00:01:55) |
| 21:00.14 | Atm0spher1c | remove the one on eth0. And jhutchins mentioned not all hardware supports mac spoofing, so you've done this before on the same hardware? |
| 21:00.14 | kminor | awwe man that sucks... oh well. Better safe than sorry. |
| 21:00.37 | gaccardo | is away: me fui |
| 21:00.38 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: yes wored before |
| 21:00.41 | rainfyre | yep :) |
| 21:00.41 | gefdecue | worked* |
| 21:00.49 | gaccardo | is back (gone 00:00:08) |
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| 21:01.04 | kminor | rainfyre, in the past I've just updated the sources.list and done apt-get dist-upgrade, had this machine since etch. That more or less the same? |
| 21:01.18 | rainfyre | kminor: exactly the same :) |
| 21:01.53 | kminor | it is apt-get dist-upgrade isnt it? man so long since I checked this old beast of a server |
| 21:01.54 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: so i will try this https://paste.debian.net/314881/ |
| 21:01.59 | gefdecue | right? |
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| 21:02.28 | rainfyre | kminor: yes, change your /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:02.48 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: no just remove the mac you set for eth0, because eth0 will go if you set that. |
| 21:03.16 | karlpinc | kminor: But don't skip releases. And always good to read the release notes. |
| 21:03.36 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: https://paste.debian.net/314883/ |
| 21:03.37 | gefdecue | correct ? |
| 21:04.06 | kminor | karlpinc, Are the release notes on debian.org somewhere? |
| 21:04.20 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: wlan0 needs it's own address. It can't be the same as eth0 |
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| 21:05.00 | tremon | kminor: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 21:05.36 | Guest58072 | hello, i want mount dvd for synaptic and i give "mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/Disk1/debian-8.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso /media/dvd1-mountpoint" and output:"mount: mount point /media/dvd1-mountpoint does not exist", i first give "su" i'm root |
| 21:05.37 | Guest58072 | ???? |
| 21:05.45 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: https://paste.debian.net/314884/ |
| 21:05.53 | gefdecue | here? |
| 21:06.01 | tremon | Guest58072: read the error message |
| 21:06.43 | JyZyXEL | why does "/sbin/mdadm --monitor --scan" process keep starting? |
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| 21:07.13 | JyZyXEL | ah, cron! |
| 21:07.30 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: Yes but you have duplicate lines. Double check first. I want to help but too much message exchange for simple mistakes. |
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| 21:08.31 | Guest58072 | output only:"mount: mount point /media/dvd1-mountpoint does not exist" |
| 21:08.42 | rainfyre | Guest58072: create the mount point |
| 21:09.29 | rainfyre | Guest58072: mkdir /media/dvd1-mountpoint |
| 21:09.46 | Guest58072 | ok |
| 21:10.10 | Guest58072 | i created /media/dvd1-mountpoint |
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| 21:12.26 | ymartineau | hi, I'm trying to build linus' latest kernel version on jessie using "make deb-pkg", but I get the following error: dpkg-genchanges: error: package linux-image-4.3.0-rc3+-dbg has section kernel in control file but debug in files list |
| 21:12.28 | ymartineau | scripts/package/builddeb has been modified "recently" but I don't understand why it fails. Should I try to build kernel using latest debian dev version instead of stable? |
| 21:12.48 | rainfyre | Guest58072: well try it again :) |
| 21:12.58 | Guest58072 | yes now start, very thx |
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| 21:17.30 | Guest58072 | one more question, why synaptic dnot read this iso dvd? |
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| 21:19.41 | Guest58072 | i try install stellarium and synaptic want dvd-1, i mount iso-dvd-1 but dnot read |
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| 21:20.11 | Guest58072 | want from me dvd-1 |
| 21:20.16 | kminor | So in the release notes it says don't dist-upgrade on kdm or gdm? Should i dist-upgrade from init 1? |
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| 21:21.33 | greycat | kminor: I'd just logout of the GUI and login on a text console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F2) |
| 21:22.06 | jhutchins | I don't think init1 has networking started. |
| 21:22.24 | kminor | single user mode sure, just no multitasking |
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| 21:23.12 | kminor | greycat, oh cool thanks I'll do that... so are the repos the same? just change squeeze to wheezy & then wheezy to jessie in the sources.list? |
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| 21:23.23 | jhutchins | kminor: I guess it depends on the distro. Last time I was in single-user mode it was not started (but could be started). |
| 21:23.45 | bug | Guest58072, comment out the cd/dvd line in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update. then try again. |
| 21:23.46 | greycat | kminor: the release notes are the definitive answer. For 95% of cases, yes, just edit the file and run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, plus possibly a kernel installation. |
| 21:23.58 | jhutchins | kminor: I've also seen it be read-only. |
| 21:24.01 | kminor | Yea, this is an old i686 32-bit machine |
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| 21:24.55 | kminor | jhutchins, Yea I'm doing a partimage backup now & will probably just do what greycat said with the Ctrl-Alt-F2 |
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| 21:26.16 | kminor | This Debian Hard Drive has run on 4 different physical servers... love that you can swap drives into new machines with debian |
| 21:26.38 | kminor | Can't do that with Windowz's HAL |
| 21:26.53 | zmitya | hi there. Maybe it is a bit OT, but what is the best way to mount a google drive on a Wheezy ? |
| 21:27.38 | greycat | It's on topic. I just don't know the answer. |
| 21:27.48 | jhutchins | kminor: You should log out of the GUI if you can. |
| 21:28.02 | Guest58072 | what change-add in /etc/apt/sources.list??? |
| 21:28.14 | greycat | Guest58072: /msg dpkg jessie sources.list |
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| 21:28.39 | cra1g321 | <zmitya> there is no official google drive client for linux, there is alternatives, like https://www.insynchq.com/, though never used it |
| 21:29.56 | zmitya | cra1g321: looks great, thanks !! |
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| 21:30.13 | kminor | httpredir? |
| 21:30.20 | kminor | that's wierd...i can use the regular right? |
| 21:30.53 | bug | Guest58072, the line near the top, that enables your cd or dvd as a software source. put a # in front of it so it will be ignored. then apt-get update. |
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| 21:33.56 | jhutchins | bug: I guess the actual question was why didn't the system recognize the disk when he inserted it? |
| 21:35.45 | bug | jhutchins, true. just saves a step in case there are updates. |
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| 21:36.22 | kminor | You can mount a google drive? I didn't know that |
| 21:36.52 | kminor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.59 | kminor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:40.19 | kminor | One last question u guys. Last time i dist-upgrade'd I couldn't double click the mouse to paste what i had highlighted in konsole. How do I get that set right? |
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| 21:41.13 | jhutchins | kminor: Do you mean using gdm, or an xterm? |
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| 21:43.08 | kminor | jhutchins, well i use kdm so it's konsole, but when I highlight something, click off of it, then I can click both mouse buttons & it pastes it |
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| 21:43.19 | kminor | without that feature im lost hehehe |
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| 21:43.45 | Nectur | Hello |
| 21:43.49 | ewew | kminor What does right click on highlighted do ? |
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| 21:44.08 | Nectur | does +b1 mean beta in a package name? |
| 21:44.40 | kminor | ewew, it brings up the menu to paste but that gets annoying. I like how u can click both left & right buttons & it pastes it with no menu popping up |
| 21:44.59 | kminor | that way you don't have to select COPY & then PASTE all the time |
| 21:45.20 | kminor | man, i forgot how i fixed that last time |
| 21:45.47 | Nectur | i'm confused whether it means beta or build |
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| 21:46.25 | kminor | Nectur, probably build...usually it'd say beta |
| 21:46.35 | ewew | kminor https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html#_special_key_strokes |
| 21:46.37 | Nectur | ok |
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| 21:47.41 | kminor | ewew, oh cool thanks man...ya its under unix style mouse operations... i guess clicking both buttons is the same as middle button click |
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| 21:51.45 | kminor | I've still never tried out Ubuntu yet... any of u Debian guys try it out yet? |
| 21:52.56 | kminor | I tried this german branch of Debian Sid called SIDUX once... they had some firmware that fried my Sony Vaio laptop |
| 21:53.16 | kminor | Never had that happen to me...before that I didn't think that was possible |
| 21:54.07 | kminor | Usually I use straight Debian Stable on production servers... but I do like how Ubuntu always has newer kernels. Why is that you guys? |
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| 21:55.46 | kminor | Nobody knows? |
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| 21:57.56 | kminor | What are the proposed updates in Jessie all about? |
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| 21:59.00 | ewew | kminor https://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 21:59.58 | ewew | kminor https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1.3 |
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| 22:00.57 | t4nk822 | dpkg:sources.list |
| 22:00.57 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 22:14.28 | t4nk822 | how to install httplib2? |
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| 22:18.54 | Sez | t4nk822: do you know which package it is included into? |
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| 22:28.52 | dpkg | linuxd: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 22:29.40 | linuxd | how to get python library httplib2? |
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| 22:36.46 | kminor | ewew, I just don't understand the regular jessie updates & the proposed updates thing |
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| 22:58.49 | ricc | Hello. Is there a way to check all the updates in the repositories? |
| 22:59.37 | ricc | I want to see the latest updates in the repositories, from say today. Not the updates of the packages installed in my system, but globally. |
| 22:59.56 | deego | ricc: debian security advisories |
| 23:00.09 | deego | ricc: and point release announcements. And (3) volatile updates |
| 23:00.34 | ricc | deego: How? |
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| 23:08.31 | SuperTramp83 | ricc: https://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 23:08.59 | SuperTramp83 | that is just for the sec updates |
| 23:09.01 | CalEzone | Could someone pass me a copy of their .desktop file for Adobe Acrobat Reader, please? I need a working copy as a sample. But it has to come from an actually functioning installation. |
| 23:09.18 | ricc | SuperTramp83: And for all the updates in stable? |
| 23:09.25 | ricc | Is there a page or command for that? |
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| 23:09.44 | SuperTramp83 | I woul like to know that too. I don't know |
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| 23:14.24 | aypea[1] | is there a better commandline tool to find files than find? or, perhaps, merely a different one? |
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| 23:16.17 | jrabbit | aypea[1]: maybe ack does what you want? |
| 23:16.34 | jrabbit | it has a filename search option it's built originally to replace grep |
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| 23:17.13 | aypea[1] | ah. I need to search by date. something that lets me say "within blah of blah date" |
| 23:17.58 | CalEzone | aypea[1]: "whereis" command is decent; try it. |
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| 23:19.29 | andril | hello |
| 23:19.39 | aypea[1] | CalEzone: no options for modified date searches, it seems. |
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| 23:20.26 | andril | is there any way to find out why my laptop freezes from time to time with Jessie, any type of log |
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| 23:23.54 | aypea[1] | it officially odds me that I cannot find such a utility. |
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| 23:23.59 | headpool182 | hello |
| 23:24.36 | headpool182 | so, i'm having an issue with a fresh install of debian jessie... i seem to be unable to select my video drivers |
| 23:24.48 | headpool182 | and it doesn't seem to detect my display |
| 23:24.53 | CalEzone | aypea[1]: what's wrong with "find"? |
| 23:25.00 | kminor | What kind of video card do you have? |
| 23:25.26 | aypea[1] | CalEzone: it's time-based searching functions are a pain in the butt to use. |
| 23:25.35 | headpool182 | R9 380 |
| 23:25.36 | kminor | headpool182 try to boot to single-user mode to the console |
| 23:25.40 | headpool182 | so FGLRX is not an option with gnome |
| 23:25.58 | aypea[1] | CalEzone: it's 2015 and I have to do time math to figure out how to use them. can't even give a specific day, for example. |
| 23:26.04 | kminor | then install the graphics driver packages manually with aptitude or apt-get |
| 23:26.06 | headpool182 | i can find the card with the lspci | grep VGA command |
| 23:26.17 | headpool182 | and xorg seems to be installed |
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| 23:26.23 | CalEzone | aypea[1]: hm, yea. cumbersome. |
| 23:26.26 | kminor | You using a modified xorg? |
| 23:26.29 | headpool182 | nope |
| 23:26.38 | headpool182 | i have done nothing but install the OS so far |
| 23:26.43 | aypea[1] | CalEzone: rather :) |
| 23:26.49 | headpool182 | well, i tried to run fglrx not knowing about the issue with it |
| 23:26.56 | headpool182 | and had to boot into recovery mod |
| 23:26.58 | headpool182 | *mode |
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| 23:28.09 | kminor | headpool182, https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 23:28.40 | headpool182 | ahhh there's the issue |
| 23:28.42 | headpool182 | i have a tonga card |
| 23:28.58 | bug | headpool182, after installing fglrx-control, did you do sudo aticonfig --initial ? |
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| 23:29.23 | headpool182 | no, i wasn't aware i was supposed to |
| 23:29.34 | bug | necessary |
| 23:30.18 | headpool182 | that should be immediately after the drivers are installed, before reboot correct? |
| 23:30.37 | bug | whenever you like, then reboot. |
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| 23:30.49 | headpool182 | gotcha |
| 23:31.03 | headpool182 | cause i rebooted after installing fglrx and gnome diaf'd everytime |
| 23:31.46 | headpool182 | kk, thanks for the advice bug |
| 23:31.48 | headpool182 | bbl |
| 23:31.56 | bug | yup |
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| 23:56.46 | mojtaba | Hi, I just restart my computer and now keepass2 does not run. Does anybody know what should I do? :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/12705370/ |
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