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| 00:42.17 | brandon` | Hi all. I just updated my system and now the Control and Window key on my keyboard is swapped |
| 00:42.28 | brandon` | Which is screwing up Emacs big time |
| 00:42.46 | brandon` | Anyone know why/how they're swapped |
| 00:42.49 | brandon` | ? |
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| 00:46.41 | kxb901 | which version did you update to |
| 00:46.46 | kxb901 | that shouldn't happen |
| 00:47.25 | brandon` | Hmmm. 4.2.0-1-amd64 |
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| 00:48.13 | kxb901 | oh so you updated the kernel and this happened? |
| 00:48.35 | bennypr0fane | Hello, I'd like to backport a package to Stable that isn't in the repo. can you help me find instructions? |
| 00:48.51 | brandon` | Yeah, but it was a pretty big dist-upgrade so it could be something other than the kernel |
| 00:49.04 | brandon` | Could be gnome, doubt it's Emacs itself |
| 00:49.16 | brandon` | No, the ctrl and window key are swapped for all applications |
| 00:49.39 | bennypr0fane | I have pavucontrol 2.0-3, Stretch has 3.0-3+b2, I'd like to try that. |
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| 00:51.03 | kxb901 | brandon`: enter xev into a terminal and try hitting those keys and see if it recognizes them as ctrl and super |
| 00:52.10 | somiaj | or look at 'xmodmap', wonder if they keys are actually swaped, or the modmap is changed, since it is probabaly the modifier that is the issue he describes. |
| 00:52.26 | somiaj | ,v pavucontrol |
| 00:52.27 | judd | Package: pavucontrol on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.9-1; wheezy: 1.0-1; jessie: 2.0-3; stretch: 3.0-3+b2; sid: 3.0-3+b2 |
| 00:52.34 | somiaj | !tell bennypr0fane about ssb |
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| 00:52.54 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: you will have to try and backport it yourself. That is the best suggestion for installing a newer version from stretch in jessie. |
| 00:53.00 | brandon` | When I do this, if I press the Window key, I get the following output: |
| 00:53.46 | brandon` | KeyPress event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001, root 0x26d, subw 0x0, time 2114832, (824,410)..., keycode 133 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L) |
| 00:53.49 | brandon` | etc |
| 00:53.50 | ghostinzshell | When it comes to debian stable, it's advisable to get newer kernels through backports. Current version for linux in backports is 4.1. Suppose I wanted 4.2, how would I go about getting that? |
| 00:54.09 | somiaj | ghostinzshell: you would have to compile it yourself. |
| 00:54.10 | brandon` | Anywho, keycode 133 is mapped to the Window key |
| 00:54.15 | kxb901 | was that the control key you hit? |
| 00:54.27 | ghostinzshell | somiaj: Alright, thanks. |
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| 00:54.31 | kxb901 | look at xmodmap like somiaj said |
| 00:54.45 | bennypr0fane | somiaj, are there any official instructions on how to perform a backport? I only found some in a forum |
| 00:54.48 | somiaj | kxb901: he said he hit the windows key, so sounds like his keymap got switched. |
| 00:54.55 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: look at the message I had the bot send you |
| 00:54.55 | brandon` | And when I hit the control key, it performs a keymap notify follwed by a leavenotify follwed by focusOut events |
| 00:54.57 | kxb901 | oh ok |
| 00:55.12 | bennypr0fane | On linuxquestions: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/craigevil-176422/howto-get-newer-package-versions-for-debian-stable-34611/ |
| 00:55.27 | somiaj | ghostinzshell: the upstream kernel includes a 'make deb-pkg' and that is the current suggested way to compile the upstream source from kernel.org into your own custom deb. You will find documentaiont bout other tools like make-kpkg out there. |
| 00:55.30 | brandon` | So the Control key is doing something system-level I think, which makes me think the window key thing is happening in a layer under the xev application |
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| 00:55.54 | ghostinzshell | somiaj: Oh, that's great. Thank you for that. |
| 00:55.56 | somiaj | ghostinzshell: or just wait, kernels go from sid -> stretch -> jessie backports. Debian will most likely provide newer kernels via backport if you wait. |
| 00:56.06 | brandon` | xmodmap output is as follows: |
| 00:56.18 | brandon` | shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) |
| 00:56.18 | brandon` | lock Caps_Lock (0x42) |
| 00:56.18 | brandon` | control Control_R (0x69), Control_L (0x85) |
| 00:56.18 | brandon` | mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) |
| 00:56.18 | brandon` | mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) |
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| 00:56.58 | ghostinzshell | somiaj: Yea, I figured I should wait. |
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| 00:57.03 | bennypr0fane | somiaj: why does it say to add a deb-src line from sid, if I want something from stretch? |
| 00:57.11 | brandon` | Sorry. Got the stupid debian flood error. Let me figure out how to paste the damn thing in |
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| 00:57.24 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: the factoid is made for sid, jsut add the deb-src line from stretch, the process is the same |
| 00:57.29 | kxb901 | lol "error" |
| 00:57.29 | ghostinzshell | somiaj: I suppose if I only require one new thing from the kernel, I could find that relevant module and compile it against my current kernel right? |
| 00:58.02 | brandon` | @kxb901, I get it, 4-lines pasted on the chat will cause everybody real mental strain, my bad. |
| 00:58.04 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: this is provided you can meet the build requirements in jessie for the package you want to compile. I think in your case it will work just fine, but not positive. |
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| 00:58.32 | somiaj | ghostinzshell: in theory yes, and use the linux-headers package for that. In practice it may not be that easy to extra/compile a modle indie a newer kernel for your current kernel. So can't answer that for sure. |
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| 00:59.39 | ghostinzshell | somiaj: Hmm, I'll look around. Thanks for your help. |
| 00:59.56 | brandon` | The output of xmodmap is here: https://paste.debian.net/314572/ |
| 01:00.13 | bennypr0fane | somiaj: that means "Testing" instead of "Unstable" in the sources.list line? |
| 01:01.04 | bennypr0fane | somiaj: or "stretch"? |
| 01:01.05 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: correct, the method works for automatic compiling of a debian source package with apt's tools. The actual source you compile from can vary, and putting deb-src lines in your sources.list won't hurt your system since you can only get the sourcecode. |
| 01:01.16 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: I would use stretch over testing. But either will work |
| 01:01.38 | somiaj | brandon`: that looks fine, my idea was incorrect. For somereason yoru keymap has changed. Unsure the best way to track that down |
| 01:02.00 | brandon` | Thanks somiaj |
| 01:02.30 | kxb901 | it could be some keyboard setting in gnome |
| 01:02.48 | bennypr0fane | good, so I'm adding this: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free |
| 01:03.22 | allizom | Does anybody know why security advisories stopped being issued on September 25? |
| 01:04.03 | Atm0spher1c | bennypr0fane: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=38976 |
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| 01:08.14 | bennypr0fane | Anyway, the Stable version of this package has a bug, should I report it even if it's fine in the newer version? |
| 01:08.53 | bennypr0fane | I'm also not sure whether it would belong to Pulseaudio upstream or to Debian. |
| 01:09.10 | bennypr0fane | building backport now... |
| 01:09.31 | brandon` | Thanks kxb901 |
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| 01:10.05 | brandon` | Not sure. Just followed instructions on wiki.debian.org/Keyboard to try to make sure it's the right keyboard model and everything. Didn't help |
| 01:11.03 | bennypr0fane | Atm0spher1c, thanks for the link. I got some instructions from dpkg bot, but they differ from the ones under that link. Apparently there are like a dozen ways to do this... |
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| 01:12.00 | bennypr0fane | Woosh, this is 750MB of source code... |
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| 01:25.02 | allizom | why is that, there are no more sec advisories after September 25? |
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| 01:44.36 | brian|lfs | question did a package change somewhere on Jessie |
| 01:44.59 | brian|lfs | I can't seem to have skype and kde installed at the same time on this box its debian jessie 64 bit. |
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| 01:45.42 | Toma | hello, i want to run rsyslog service, but when i run 'systemctl status rsyslog.service', it shows 'Active: active (exited)' It seems works not correct. I try to google, but nothing help. |
| 01:46.53 | Toma | when i run /etc/init.d/rsyslog status nothing output, but using systemctl command. |
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| 02:20.43 | black_13_ | is the desktop that is windows like (please dont throw things at me) |
| 02:20.58 | LordShadowWIng | KDE |
| 02:21.09 | LordShadowWIng | black_13_: KDE is what you want |
| 02:21.28 | black_13_ | i have kde |
| 02:21.31 | somiaj | black_13_: depends on what you mean by windows like |
| 02:21.42 | black_13_ | desktop links |
| 02:21.43 | somiaj | some desktops will mimic more of windows features, others more of windows look/feel |
| 02:24.16 | somiaj | kde doesn't have a way to put links on the desktop? |
| 02:24.55 | LordShadowWIng | I think it does |
| 02:25.20 | somiaj | Usually this is done with the filemanager, at least in gnome. |
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| 02:26.24 | somiaj | black_13_: each de (gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, cinimon, mate) is gonna have lots of windows liek automation. Each will have its own flavor/twist and if you are looking for a good one you may want to try differnt ones until you find one you like. |
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| 02:26.44 | somiaj | black_13_: if you like kde, then you may want to find out how to achive what you are trying to achive inside of kde which is probabaly possible. |
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| 02:28.55 | black_13_ | somiaj: sure |
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| 02:38.45 | factor | Do I need any kernel options in 4.x for LVM? |
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| 02:57.28 | darsie | which tool would tell me the current NIC transfer rate, processes, ports? |
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| 03:20.07 | maximusfl | hi All |
| 03:20.31 | maximusfl | Anyone know of a C language IRC Channel |
| 03:21.06 | darsie | ##c |
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| 03:21.24 | maximusfl | Thanks! |
| 03:22.45 | maximusfl | Has anyone ever pointed the console to a 9-pin serial port? Instead of using a video card |
| 03:23.36 | maximusfl | I know this is low level Debian stuff |
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| 03:41.27 | bazhang | !work |
| 03:41.27 | dpkg | methinks work is a great place to play network games like Quake against your friends..... an improper way of saying funzionirt! Work at what? Do the dishes? Clean your room? , or see <play> =-) |
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| 04:01.58 | deego | check-support-status shows certain unsupported packgaes. So, I type, for example, echo "libkcmutils4 hold" | dpkg --set-selections, but I get: dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 1: libkcmutils4 |
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| 04:05.20 | deego | Or, IOW, I would like to blacklist this package .But, as soon as I purge it, it gets removed from the hold status. |
| 04:07.14 | deego | (2) This package is already purged and I have no conflicts. Yet, aptitude hold libkcmutils4 wants to remove a 1000 other packages. |
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| 04:17.13 | x86_64 | load average 4.21, 3.33, 1.80 WTF |
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| 04:41.31 | hvpc | hi! i have a problem with keyboard layout... XKBLAYOUT="us,ru" in /etc/default/keyboard, but "setxkbmap -query | grep layout" returns - layout: us,ru,ru |
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| 04:57.19 | weox | does debian 8 uses systemd ? because I was struggling for 2 hours with "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Connection refused." error , and after checking I saw the pid=1 is not even systemd . how can Fix the problem ? |
| 04:57.40 | weox | I cannot create any service because of "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Connection refused." error |
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| 05:02.14 | BW^- | exit |
| 05:02.27 | BW^- | my qemu process seems to freeze and die immediately after that |
| 05:02.32 | BW^- | i close the terminal |
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| 05:08.22 | x86_64 | Linodians! |
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| 05:09.47 | BW^- | so weird, incredibly: nohup qemu-system-x86_64 .......... </dev/null &>/dev/null & |
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| 05:18.01 | relaxed | BW^-: use screen or tmux |
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| 05:22.09 | Sh4d03 | A little help I use TeamViewer for remote support to clients. I have a license for version 7 so must use this version. Somehow I've ended up with a newer version installed and when I try to run dpkg -i path_to_tv7.deb (downloaded from their website) it says 'teamviewer conflicts with teamviewer7'. I've run apt-get remove teamviewer* which said that 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 were not installed and so not removed. |
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| 05:41.03 | darsie | Sh4d03: try dpkg -l 'teamviewer*' |
| 05:41.17 | darsie | and aptitude purge instead of remove |
| 05:41.35 | darsie | Does aptitude purge work on removed packages? |
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| 05:42.41 | shawn1 | yo |
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| 05:45.29 | somiaj | darsie: It may, but you may just have to use dpkg --purge |
| 05:45.31 | Sh4d03 | darsie: They're all 'none' excpet for verrsion 10, which has a name of 'teamviewer' |
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| 05:47.59 | Sh4d03 | darsie: and aptitude purge teamviewer said there was nothing to be removed |
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| 05:49.35 | somiaj | Sh4d03: dpkg -l teamviewer (what are the two letters in front of the package name) |
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| 05:52.14 | Sh4d03 | somiaj: 'ii' |
| 05:54.02 | somiaj | Hmm, I think I'm to tired, I don't see why it isn't removing the installed package. |
| 05:54.11 | darsie | That means it's installed and is supposed to be installed. |
| 05:54.29 | Sh4d03 | Glad I'm not stupid then :P |
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| 06:06.22 | Sh4d03 | Anyone? |
| 06:06.55 | somiaj | !bat |
| 06:06.55 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 06:07.20 | somiaj | Sh4d03: I think you should rephrase your question and paste the actual output of the commands you are running at paste.debian.net (also include the command you typed in the paste) |
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| 06:21.45 | Sh4d03 | So here's the output from various commands to try and give some information. |
| 06:21.47 | Sh4d03 | $ sudo dpkg -l | grep team |
| 06:21.57 | Sh4d03 | https://paste.debian.net/314581/ |
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| 06:26.15 | darsie | How can I make a bomb in an airplane toilet? |
| 06:27.18 | darsie | With liquids. |
| 06:27.40 | darsie | Or ... why did they restrict liquids on airplanes? |
| 06:28.21 | darsie | oops, wrong chan :). |
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| 06:30.03 | tparcina | How to find out when has the last time NTP client successfully synchronized with server? |
| 06:31.14 | bug | just eat a lot of taco bell, darsie. |
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| 06:33.55 | darsie | tparcina: ntpq -p tells you the successful ping history in an octal number in 'reach'. |
| 06:34.27 | darsie | It's a bit field with the bits set to one where there was a ping reply received. |
| 06:35.20 | tparcina | darsie: I was just reading about it. |
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| 06:35.55 | darsie | The LSB is the most recent one, IMO. |
| 06:36.00 | tparcina | And I read that "when" is the time when it was last successful sync. |
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| 06:36.50 | darsie | ahh, yes, appearently. I thought it was when it's gonna ping next. |
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| 06:37.50 | darsie | And yes, I have a time larger than the poll interval, so it's really hte time since last reply. |
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| 06:38.19 | tparcina | darsie: Reach doesn't change over time. |
| 06:38.32 | tparcina | For me it's always 377. |
| 06:38.54 | darsie | That's because you didn't lose any packets. |
| 06:39.21 | darsie | it's 0b11111111 |
| 06:39.23 | tparcina | And "poll" time is 64 and "when" changes up to 64. |
| 06:40.01 | tparcina | darsie: Great. :) |
| 06:40.09 | tparcina | darsie: Thank you for your time. |
| 06:40.20 | darsie | disconnect your network shortly before the next ping and it will change. |
| 06:40.43 | darsie | Thank you for making my life useful. |
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| 06:56.10 | ShadowPwn | Hi all, I was having an issue with eeprom too old, so i moded and installed backports, then installed iwlwifi-firmware, because i had errors it was missing (maybe i should of done this b4 backports?) not i can see my device but it crashes Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x82000000 |
| 06:56.17 | ShadowPwn | http://pastebin.com/UT3RzKyC |
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| 06:58.14 | babilen | ShadowPwn: Do you also run a backported kernel? (and please don't use pastebin.com, but http://paste.debian.net_ |
| 06:58.17 | babilen | ) |
| 06:58.48 | ShadowPwn | sorry, umm no i'm suppose to run a backported kernel? |
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| 06:59.53 | ShadowPwn | latest debian |
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| 07:11.46 | SpaghettiCat | Good morning, where are the actual packages stored in an apt mirror? I can't find them for the life of me. http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/ |
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| 07:13.35 | Epakai | http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/ |
| 07:13.56 | msn | so finally build the pacemaker package for jessie taking sources from sid but i am not sure about using them in prod :( |
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| 07:14.17 | SpaghettiCat | Epakai: oh thank you, not the most obvious place |
| 07:14.52 | SpaghettiCat | Also, is wheezy named after Lil Wayne because of how much ganja he smokes? |
| 07:15.15 | Epakai | they're all toy story character names |
| 07:16.00 | SpaghettiCat | I bet the Toy Story character can't smoke as much ganja as lil wayne :P |
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| 07:17.39 | Mathisen | SpaghettiCat, https://41.media.tumblr.com/53af536a2ec7ad9687fd03e6715ac2c6/tumblr_mt1swfYGyq1s5xk6qo1_500.jpg |
| 07:18.00 | SpaghettiCat | hahha |
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| 07:23.18 | factor | I cant seem to boot any new kernel image I build with make-kpkg using BTRFS |
| 07:23.38 | factor | My original kernel works fine booting to BTRFS, but no new ones. |
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| 07:23.44 | BW^- | relaxed: the installer/rescue CD doesn't have screen/tmux. as it turned out, qemu has a -daemonize argument , which solved it. |
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| 07:25.03 | factor | Should I use some new method to make kernels other than make-kpkg? |
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| 07:32.06 | bug | are you building btrfs support into the kernel? |
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| 07:36.50 | damo | I have a command that needs to be runned at each start-up. what file do I need to write & save it, in order to be executed at the start-up? |
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| 07:37.35 | damo | should I write it into /etc/rc.local? |
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| 07:39.54 | msn | dame :that should do it |
| 07:41.13 | msn | damo: though u should research how rc.local works with systemd |
| 07:42.01 | damo | thanks |
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| 07:48.24 | hns | Hi. I'm using debian/testing on my laptop, but since some months it dose not wake up from hibernation, sometimes it does. I see the image loading but than nothing happens. Any idea to debug this? |
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| 11:55.10 | MadHatter42 | why would lsof take forever to execute ? |
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| 11:56.20 | vamps | MadHatter42: maybe you have a stalled nfs mount or something like that |
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| 11:56.41 | MadHatter42 | hmm interesting |
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| 11:59.01 | msn | think i am done testing pacemaker/corosync |
| 11:59.12 | vamps | MadHatter42: check with "strace lsof" |
| 11:59.15 | f0o | msn: what's the verdict? |
| 11:59.29 | msn | i am gonna use gfs2 on drbd in multimaster |
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| 11:59.40 | msn | would take less time then pacemaker/corosync |
| 11:59.51 | MadHatter42 | f0o, what am I looking for ? |
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| 12:00.11 | msn | MadHatter42: try mount command |
| 12:00.21 | msn | see if you can find any mount with nfs in it |
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| 12:01.23 | f0o | msn: lsof can hang for a multitude of things, simple as stale storage to laggy dns and such. strace should tell you where it hangs or loops forever |
| 12:01.32 | f0o | urgh MadHatter42 ^ |
| 12:01.37 | f0o | tab is bad |
| 12:01.39 | pgiarrusso | Hi all, I have problems with alioth... |
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| 12:02.13 | pgiarrusso | I wanted to report a website problem with benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org (HTTPS mixed content warnings), they say to register on alioth, but it seems verification doesnât work. |
| 12:02.47 | pgiarrusso | In particular, |
| 12:03.26 | pgiarrusso | Alioth seems to think that before verifying I need to login. |
| 12:03.41 | pgiarrusso | How do I report this? |
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| 12:04.10 | pgiarrusso | or who should I contact? (not sure this channel is perfect) |
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| 12:04.58 | omid8bimo | i have an application server that clients connect to via MQTT protocol. the problem is that the server is running out of file/socket descriptors and i have to kill/start the daemon every 24 hours. |
| 12:06.16 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: You can increase the limit with 'ulimit', but if there is a leak you need to fix that first. |
| 12:07.00 | MadHatter42 | thnx f0o |
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| 12:10.16 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: i've increased it to 400000 but still its keeps growing and filling up |
| 12:10.45 | omid8bimo | is there a setting/systcl config to force close unused sockets? |
| 12:10.47 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Sounds like a leak to me ... |
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| 12:11.13 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: How should the kernel know if they're unused? |
| 12:11.16 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: by leak you mean the application server is not closing the sockets after clients disconnected? |
| 12:11.22 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: yes |
| 12:12.06 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: okay, so if the client (which is android app) disconnects, should connection to that port on application server (1883) remains eshtablished ? |
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| 12:12.29 | omid8bimo | i run this "netstat -tuan | grep ':1883 ' | awk '{print $6}' | sort | uniq -c" and i get "175605 ESTABLISHED" |
| 12:13.08 | omid8bimo | but according to application server (rabbitmq) they are only 21k connections/Consumers |
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| 12:13.46 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Sounds like the connections never get closed and never get a chance to time out. That is the bug you need to investigate. |
| 12:13.49 | otyugh | what app it is ? |
| 12:13.58 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Or somebody is DDOSing you. |
| 12:14.11 | Ticho | if they are still in ESTABLISHED state, then the disconnected client never sent a RST packet to end the connection |
| 12:14.30 | petn-randall | Ticho: Not only that, the amount implies that they're still holding the connection open. |
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| 12:14.38 | omid8bimo | otyugh: its rabbitmq msg broker which android clients connect to |
| 12:15.03 | otyugh | ok. I've no idea what this is o/ |
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| 12:16.18 | omid8bimo | well, im comparing the netstat report the rabbitmq application server's monitoring tool that shows that same amount of Socket descriptors |
| 12:16.32 | omid8bimo | which by my guess means that much open connections. correct? |
| 12:16.55 | Ticho | petn-randall: is there some mandatory keepalive process in tcp? I didn't think so - maybe the connections are just there, unused, but not ended |
| 12:16.58 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Maybe you have 170k legitimate connections? Are the source IP addresses all unique? |
| 12:17.23 | msn | everytime i run crm cluster i get PSSH library not installed or is not up to date. |
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| 12:17.56 | petn-randall | Ticho: Yes, of course there is a mandatory timeout. If you don't receive any packets from the other side, it must eventually clean that up. Otherwise you'd have a rising amount of dead connections that are still tracked in the kernel. |
| 12:18.00 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: well, not all unique. connections from so many IPs |
| 12:18.27 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: awk by source IP address, then count how many unique ones there are. |
| 12:18.49 | omid8bimo | Ticho: how can i know what is that keepalive value? is that a sysctl params? |
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| 12:20.20 | Ticho | omid8bimo: http://www.raveontech.com/cigorn/configuring-linux-tcp-keepalive/ |
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| 12:20.47 | Ticho | petn-randall: that is implementation-specific, though, not something in tcp specification, right? |
| 12:20.49 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: actually, src IP are all the same. source IP is my server and destination IP is android mobile devices |
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| 12:23.01 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: I don't think your server established the connections. |
| 12:23.12 | omid8bimo | okay clarify something for me please. "sysctl -a | grep -i keepalive" shows this: net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time = 7200 |
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| 12:23.15 | omid8bimo | net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_probes = 9 |
| 12:23.18 | omid8bimo | net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_intvl = 75 |
| 12:23.35 | omid8bimo | does this mean after connection becomes idle, server waits for 2 hours |
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| 12:23.51 | omid8bimo | then sends keepalive msg 9 times (9 * 2 hours) ? |
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| 12:24.27 | ewew | omid8bimo I think this is true. Wait checking on my system. |
| 12:24.35 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: If it says ESTABLISHED your server recently got a response from the clients, so they're still keeping the connections open. |
| 12:24.39 | thms | How can I know if a specific package (lsyncd) will be in debian 8 ? |
| 12:25.29 | petn-randall | thms: Since it's released, there won't be any new packages coming to Debian 8. There might be some backports in the future, though, if it's available in jessie+1. |
| 12:25.31 | thms | packages.debian.org, thanks thms. |
| 12:25.43 | petn-randall | ,v lsyncd |
| 12:25.44 | judd | Package: lsyncd on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.34-1; wheezy: 2.0.7-3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.0.7-3+deb7u1; stretch: 2.1.5-2; jessie: 2.1.5-2; sid: 2.1.5-2 |
| 12:26.02 | thms | judd: so it's not in jessie ? |
| 12:26.05 | petn-randall | thms: It's in jessie. |
| 12:26.08 | thms | ho it is, didn't read the line. |
| 12:26.11 | petn-randall | thms: judd is a bot. |
| 12:26.14 | thms | Yeah; was confusing |
| 12:26.29 | thms | understood this meant to ask you. thanks anyway :) |
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| 12:26.58 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: TCP timeouts are a *lot* faster than that. |
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| 12:28.08 | omid8bimo | okay. is it possible that somehow server is keeping the file/socket descriptor alive while the client (the user's android device) is long gone? |
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| 12:29.13 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: No |
| 12:30.17 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Can you paste the full output of your previous command to http://paste.debian.net? The other output would be interesting, too. |
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| 12:31.07 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: sure. which cmd? |
| 12:31.24 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: "netstat -tuan | grep ':1883 ' | awk '{print $6}' | sort | uniq -c" |
| 12:31.34 | omid8bimo | all right |
| 12:31.44 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Is 1883 the port of your rabbitmq server? |
| 12:32.22 | omid8bimo | yes. 1883 is MQTT protocol port |
| 12:32.23 | omid8bimo | https://paste.debian.net/314621/ |
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| 12:35.49 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: FIN_WAIT1, FIN_WAIT2, LAST_ACK, TIME_WAIT are values when the connection closes or times out. So the android client never closes the connection. |
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| 12:36.56 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: so its possible that android device is offline but it doesnt send a packet to close the connection? thus server keeps it alive? |
| 12:37.09 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: No. |
| 12:37.32 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: "ESTABLISHED" means the android client is _ACTIVELY_ holding the connection open. No timeouts, no disconnects. |
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| 12:38.12 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: but im sure the device is off. in my tests i did turn off the WIFI on the device. |
| 12:38.42 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: You have 170k devices? |
| 12:38.58 | petn-randall | And turned them off? |
| 12:39.24 | petn-randall | Guess omid8bimo turned off the wrong device. |
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| 12:41.34 | thms | Let's say I have a .conf file on a remote server, any way I can open it with my local gedit through SSH ? |
| 12:41.40 | thms | I use SSH keys |
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| 12:43.10 | rozie | thms: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-run-firefox-from-the-command-line/ |
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| 12:43.29 | rozie | (remote part) |
| 12:43.29 | deepy | There's sshfs |
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| 12:44.04 | thms | rozie: you mean I install gedit on the remote server, then ssh-X and run gedit ? |
| 12:44.08 | rozie | yes, even beter. because what I posted runs remote gedit, not local one |
| 12:44.19 | thms | That's what I was thinking |
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| 12:44.22 | rozie | thms: look what deepy wrote |
| 12:44.24 | thms | I'm gonna look into sshfs |
| 12:44.28 | thms | Yes thanks deepy |
| 12:44.31 | deepy | Or you could scp the file locally, open it in gedit, scp it back |
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| 12:44.54 | omid8bimo | sorry i got disconnected i think. |
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| 12:45.24 | omid8bimo | PeterSilie: if you said something after my last post, i didnt get it |
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| 12:46.03 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: if you said something after my last post, i didnt get it |
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| 12:54.39 | droid909 | guys |
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| 12:54.49 | droid909 | grep -e '^User' /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 12:54.53 | droid909 | User ${APACHE_RUN_USER} |
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| 12:54.58 | droid909 | which use is that? |
| 12:55.05 | droid909 | www-data ? |
| 12:55.16 | droid909 | where this var is set? |
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| 12:55.23 | aldo_ | Hello |
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| 12:55.50 | aldo_ | Will Debian 9 provide the LXDE environment as an iso? |
| 12:56.08 | droid909 | what user operates apache in debian? |
| 12:56.48 | jelly | aldo_: probably, much like 7 and 8 did, but it's too early to say at this point |
| 12:56.57 | quantic | droid909: I'm sure you can grep the contents of /etc for that user and find what you're looking for. |
| 12:57.10 | droid909 | quantic: well i grepped |
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| 12:57.24 | quantic | droid909: So did I, found the file. |
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| 12:57.52 | droid909 | quantic: www-data? |
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| 12:58.08 | themill | aldo_: no, desktop-specific ISOs are not being generated any more |
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| 12:58.50 | aldo_ | jelly: I am asking because with the release of LXQT, maybe theyre moving all their efforts to it instead of LXDE. |
| 12:59.31 | aldo_ | themill: Since when will they not be generated? |
| 12:59.48 | msn | since internet became faster then CD/DVD images |
| 13:00.10 | aldo_ | jelly: Is LXDE still in developlment for it to arrive in Debian? |
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| 13:02.37 | vilpan | hi, I've noticed a bug in a stable package that has already been reported and fixed upstream. testing already has a newer version of the package that has the fix. Am I right in assuming there's no point in reporting the bug against stable at this point? |
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| 13:07.09 | aldo_ | vilpan:Interested in that question too. |
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| 13:08.46 | milkywayprotein | ab |
| 13:09.00 | vilpan | on the other hand, I guess the new version isn't likely to land in stable anyway (not a security issue). So my best course of action is to either patch locally or build a local backport from testing, right? |
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| 13:12.06 | themill | vilpan: how serious is the bug and how big is the patch that fixes it? |
| 13:12.13 | jordanm | vilpan: if it is a release critical issue (makes the package mostly unusable), than a patch for the fix can be backported to stable |
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| 13:15.14 | aldo_ | vilpan: What package is it? |
| 13:15.16 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: Yeah, I asked if you really turned off 170k devices. |
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| 13:15.55 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: no no. 170k devices (the screenshot and netstat report) is on our production server |
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| 13:16.24 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: by test i meant in our local setup that i was testing with 2/3 android devices |
| 13:16.28 | allizom | Does anybody know why security advisories have stopped being issued after September 25th? |
| 13:17.04 | Jck_true | This init script fails because the pid saved is the PID of the sudo call - How do I fix that? :| https://github.com/fhd/init-script-template/blob/master/template |
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| 13:18.51 | dontknow | could someone send me latest wheezy netinstall download link please. lol i can't find it in debian.org! |
| 13:19.20 | dontknow | i can't believe this! |
| 13:19.29 | themill | dpkg: tell dontknow about install wheezy |
| 13:19.54 | vamps | dontknow: ... ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso |
| 13:20.03 | vamps | very easy to find |
| 13:20.11 | themill | err, no |
| 13:20.21 | dontknow | themill, vamps thanks! i was looking it for about half an hour! |
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| 13:22.38 | vilpan | aldo_: it's meld and this issue - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742142. |
| 13:22.38 | vilpan | themill, jordanm: the patch is simple, if not trivial, but I wouldn't call the bug critical ^^ |
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| 13:23.32 | jordanm | vilpan: ah, I backported meld for myself, for a different bug.... |
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| 13:23.39 | g105b | I'm looking for advice on customising a minimal Debian installation that I can then configure with my own packages, for putting onto lightweight hardware. I would like to be able to use git to manage versions of the custom OS, so would it make sense to use chroot to configure a base filesystem? |
| 13:23.52 | jordanm | vilpan: it was unusable in KDE |
| 13:24.09 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: And what happened there? |
| 13:24.31 | aldo_ | vilpan: This should get fixed on stable ASAP. |
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| 13:25.08 | omid8bimo | petn-randall: well, according to netstat and rabbitmq web interface, when i turned off the device's wifi, connection went to fin_wait and closed |
| 13:26.24 | aldo_ | Theres free wifi in an area of my city in which I cant browse but can apt-get install programs and ping. What could be the issue? |
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| 13:27.05 | vilpan | jordanm: right, I used a local backport of mc in wheezy as the stable package had a regression of dropping changes in nested archives. I was just wondering if there's any good I could do for fellow debian users in this case |
| 13:27.43 | petn-randall | omid8bimo: That's why I'm saying, you have 170k connections that are actively being kept alive by the clients. |
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| 14:00.13 | sine` | what is the tool that allows me to see how many domains are hosted on a single ip (i.e virtual hosts in apache) |
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| 14:00.54 | jelly | sine`: apachectl -S will give you a summary of apache configuration, a list of VirtualHosts |
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| 14:07.07 | sine` | ok ta |
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| 14:18.11 | Guest85349 | hi, how can i change language on debian base ?, how pack download? |
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| 14:18.45 | vamps | Guest85349: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 14:19.29 | nkuttler | Guest85349: depends which language you mean though.. man pages, desktop env, specific apps, etc |
| 14:19.58 | nkuttler | Guest85349: i guess a good start would be task-LANG.. |
| 14:20.06 | nkuttler | and task-LANG-foo |
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| 14:25.48 | lawyer | hi |
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| 14:27.55 | Guest85349 | i give "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and output:bash: sudo: command not found |
| 14:28.25 | karlpinc | How do I keep systemd from broadcasting to all my tty/ptys when I start openvpn and a password prompt is required to connect? |
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| 14:29.20 | karlpinc | Guest85349: Try using 'su -' to become root instead of using sudo. Then issue your commands and type 'exit' to leave. |
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| 14:30.22 | swift110-phone | Hey all |
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| 14:36.04 | milkywayproteins | I dont understand how gnome notifications work, I press super m to bring it up, and the messages arent there (but notifications are on) |
| 14:36.17 | milkywayproteins | I see them when they appear but theyre not in the message tray for me to see |
| 14:36.23 | milkywayproteins | (jessie) |
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| 14:37.56 | abrotman | milkywayproteins: tried sliding your mouse down and to the right? |
| 14:38.03 | milkywayproteins | Keyboard user |
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| 14:38.24 | milkywayproteins | Okay so its the icon Im looking for |
| 14:38.44 | milkywayproteins | I thought the message would appear on that space |
| 14:38.47 | abrotman | I'm a keyboard user too .. I can't remember the shortcut to get to those, but you'd have to click on them anyway |
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| 14:39.18 | Guest85349 | ok thx, now how can change gnome language |
| 14:39.21 | Guest85349 | ? |
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| 14:40.13 | milkywayproteins | abrotman, in that case is it possible to make the messages last longer, even with high contrast and large text I can't read them quickly enough |
| 14:40.28 | abrotman | I haven't tried, maybe ask #gnome |
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| 14:41.20 | milkywayproteins | Guest85349, if you go to settings theres an option there for Region & Language |
| 14:41.24 | milkywayproteins | If youre in gnome |
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| 14:42.02 | collin11 | I'm trying to remove package (apt-get purge) but i'm also getting information that NEW packages will be installed. How i can only remove package without NEW packages been installed ? |
| 14:43.00 | flyingkiwi | Hi there! I'm using the debian-live image (on a thumb drive) a lot. Usually I'm working in an environment without DHCP - so, on every live-boot I've to wait ~1.5 minutes, because the image is trying to get DHCP offers. Any idea how to modify that image to disable network "initialization" on boot? |
| 14:43.12 | jelly | collin11: show your complete command line and full output up to the confirm question in a pastebin, https://paste.debian.net |
| 14:43.14 | swift110-phone | How do I add a package to debian thats not already there |
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| 14:44.13 | milkywayproteins | swift110-phone, you mean to redistribute it to other people? Or for your own use? |
| 14:44.55 | swift110-phone | Well its for me but others could find it useful |
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| 14:47.47 | Guest85349 | in Region & Language select other lang, and i restasrt pc but all againt is in english, only clock change language |
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| 14:48.55 | milkywayproteins | If you have the .deb you'd just click it to install, if you only have the source and want to create a .deb: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian swift110-phone |
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| 14:50.11 | milkywayproteins | Unless I'm planning on sharing with other people I just compile the source, but Im having a hard time finding a tutorial at the moment swift110-phone |
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| 14:52.16 | abrotman | swift110-phone: if it's already there, why not talk to the maintainer about helping with package maintenance ? |
| 14:53.14 | Guest85349 | in ubuntu first install language-pack-**.deb and language-pack-**-base.deb is same for debian? |
| 14:53.59 | swift110-phone | Ok thanks guys |
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| 15:02.19 | Guest85349 | yes, now all change, very thanks |
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| 15:03.21 | swift110-phone | http://m.webupd8.org/2014/02/quickly-charge-your-iphone-or-ipad-in.html?m=1 |
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| 15:03.40 | swift110-phone | That's what i want to add |
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| 15:10.54 | lewix | yo |
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| 15:13.29 | abrotman | swift110-phone: okay, still have to talk to the maintainer |
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| 15:13.52 | swift110-phone | Ok so i email him |
| 15:14.05 | abrotman | good plan |
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| 15:15.26 | swift110-phone | Thats cool i would like others that aren't on ubuntu to benefit from it |
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| 15:16.37 | swift110-phone | So pretty much I tell him what I want to do and see what he says? |
| 15:16.53 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:17.00 | abrotman | or file a bug |
| 15:17.05 | abrotman | dpkg: tell swift110-phone about reportbug |
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| 15:18.21 | swift110-phone | I don't understand |
| 15:18.42 | abrotman | you can file a feature request bug via reportbug |
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| 15:21.41 | swift110-phone | So i install reportbug to my laptop then request to have ipad_charge to debian? |
| 15:22.03 | abrotman | it has documentation |
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| 15:35.39 | swift110-phone | Ok im just new to this so i don't understand everything |
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| 15:41.16 | syao | hello, I am using net install of debian amd64. The problem is that the internet provider requires me to enter username and password, I tried to use wget to post data but wget seems not to support --post-data |
| 15:41.33 | syao | is there a way to post a data from net install cd? |
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| 15:42.28 | nkuttler | syao: what makes you think wget doesn't support it? |
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| 15:43.32 | oddRaven | is it possible to run a portable version of Debian on an usb device that is not a live CD transferring all data to the memmory? |
| 15:43.47 | oddRaven | I need to install some programs and like to keep them |
| 15:43.49 | nkuttler | oddRaven: what do you mean, to memory? |
| 15:44.00 | nkuttler | oddRaven: you can install debian on any usb device you like |
| 15:44.02 | syao | wget prints help message on --post-data argument provided |
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| 15:44.08 | bazhang | persistent usb? |
| 15:44.12 | oddRaven | with the Live CD version the operating system runs on the memmory, if I'm correct |
| 15:44.12 | nkuttler | !tell syao about errors |
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| 15:45.10 | syao | I have DVD-RW right now only :/ |
| 15:45.11 | oddRaven | nkuttler: ah yes, I was think about Grub, but forgot I can choose to boot in the BIOS |
| 15:45.27 | nkuttler | oddRaven: ah, right |
| 15:45.29 | syao | bw, I need to use UEFI in my system |
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| 15:45.53 | nkuttler | syao: which wget command do you use, and what's the output? |
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| 15:46.11 | bacce | I recently upgraded to jessie and now have this very awkward behaviour, which I didn't have on wheezy. any ideas what's going on? https://gist.github.com/baccenfutter/4a103eb4546a4a368f97 |
| 15:46.13 | nkuttler | (edit the pw) |
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| 15:46.15 | collin11 | I want to remove package, but i get information that NEW packages will be installed also. How to only remove package ? https://paste.debian.net/314653 |
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| 15:46.45 | syao | wget --post-data "username=someuser&password=somepass" www.someurl.com |
| 15:47.19 | nkuttler | syao: paste.debian.net, the output please as well |
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| 15:50.10 | syao | http://pastebin.com/KdSpTcaZ |
| 15:50.15 | syao | the output |
| 15:51.01 | nkuttler | syao: er. wget --version ? |
| 15:51.16 | nkuttler | looks like busybox wget.. |
| 15:51.23 | syao | as i see installer is using busybox.. |
| 15:51.44 | nkuttler | syao: how far are you in the installation process? is base installed? |
| 15:51.48 | syao | so is there a way? |
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| 15:52.04 | syao | Configure package manager |
| 15:52.38 | syao | I need to select a mirror to download packages, but I can't :) |
| 15:52.42 | nkuttler | syao: why do you need a password anyway? is that some proxy configuration? |
| 15:52.59 | nkuttler | syao: or can you use another device to auth with the isp? |
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| 15:53.52 | nkuttler | syao: i guess you could use netcat or somesuch if that's available |
| 15:54.41 | nkuttler | syao: or, get the first full installer cd/dvd.. |
| 15:55.07 | syao | No not a proxy, just an internet of university.. |
| 15:55.44 | syao | full installer does not boot in UEFI mode for me :/ |
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| 16:09.03 | petn-randall | ,v gnome |
| 16:09.04 | judd | Package: gnome on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.14+3; sid: 1:3.14+3; stretch: 1:3.14+3 |
| 16:09.34 | petn-randall | blah-: You'll have to build it from the upstream sources, it's not packaged in Debian yet. |
| 16:10.26 | collin11 | how to remove cron without acron installed ? https://paste.debian.net/314655 |
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| 16:10.47 | blah- | ahhh i see. |
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| 16:12.19 | petn-randall | collin11: cron is a service that other packages depends on. Either you remove those services, too, or you leave cron where it is. |
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| 16:14.37 | hns | hi, here is a hard one: mostly my laptop doesn't wake up from hibernation, sometimes it does. i see the image loading, and after that the laptop is stuck. anyone an idea to debug this? |
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| 16:17.18 | collin11 | petn-randall: do you know how to get a list of these services ? I'm installed debian from netinstall without standart system utilities, so maybe i even dont have these services running |
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| 16:23.06 | JohnA1 | q1) which if GUI would be "best" for a sever? I know don't use a GUI on a server, but!!! |
| 16:23.16 | nkuttler | collin11: what happens when you try to remove cron and anacron simultaneously? |
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| 16:23.44 | nkuttler | JohnA1: what do you need a gui for? |
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| 16:24.25 | JohnA1 | q2) is there a "cron" type function that would allow me to run task on specific dates? |
| 16:25.50 | collin11 | nkuttler: i'm getting "E: Unable to locate package acron" |
| 16:26.07 | nkuttler | collin11: it's anacron.. |
| 16:26.27 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: There a a number of GUI based tools that might make it easier to admin a server. I use mc for most things, but some of the people involved are x M$. |
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| 16:26.51 | nkuttler | JohnA1: that doesn't answer my question. "gui" by itself is meaningless to me. do you mean a desktop environment? |
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| 16:27.27 | collin11 | nkuttler:it worked. thanks |
| 16:28.21 | collin11 | what about exim4? does systems must have this ? I read that it is used to display error messages, can my system fully work without it ?â® |
| 16:28.23 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: no I would assume a very stripped down setup, probably text editor and whatever GUI based toosl for server admin there are out there. |
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| 16:28.55 | nkuttler | collin11: there are packages like nullmailer.. |
| 16:29.09 | nkuttler | collin11: would be hard to have a system without mta i guess.. |
| 16:29.50 | JohnA1 | collin11: MTA is not essential MUA makes life easier. |
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| 16:30.03 | nkuttler | JohnA1: i'm not sure about your setup. is that some remote "server"? |
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| 16:30.26 | nkuttler | JohnA1: what kind of files should people edit, etc. i'm not aware of any general purpose gui admin tools |
| 16:30.32 | droid909 | guys, i need to send messages from my web site, what i need to install on my debian vps to do so? |
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| 16:30.42 | nkuttler | droid909: messages? emails? |
| 16:30.49 | droid909 | nkuttler: emails |
| 16:31.08 | droid909 | nkuttler: i don't need to receive |
| 16:31.16 | nkuttler | droid909: exim should be installed by default, configure it? dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 16:31.17 | droid909 | nkuttler: only send, like registration confirmed |
| 16:31.33 | droid909 | nkuttler: not on vps's ? |
| 16:31.33 | albru123 | What is a preffered way to automount USB drive? |
| 16:31.42 | nkuttler | !automount |
| 16:31.43 | dpkg | If you're running one of the desktop environments in Debian, then ask me about <kde automount>, <thunar-volman>. If you want something for the command line, then ask me about <usbmount>, <pmount> or <halevt>. For a completely different approach to automounting, ask me about <autofs>. |
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| 16:31.53 | droid909 | nkuttler: so exim is the way to go? |
| 16:32.02 | nkuttler | droid909: it's the default. personally, i like postfix |
| 16:32.19 | keltim | albru123, depends on your environment ... console, desktop, it depends |
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| 16:32.27 | keltim | I like postfix as well |
| 16:32.34 | NoImNotNineVolt | you don't need to install an mta just to send email, wow. |
| 16:32.36 | keltim | I liked exim3 ... |
| 16:32.47 | albru123 | keltim: Console, no GUI (well, there is a GUI, but it is mostly unused) |
| 16:32.48 | nkuttler | droid909: if you don't need *any* configuration exim is probably easier because you can just config it through debconf |
| 16:32.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | i send email all the time without running a local mta. |
| 16:33.06 | keltim | ssmtp will do for that |
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| 16:33.16 | droid909 | nkuttler: is this still aplicable for debian 7 ? https://www.linode.com/docs/email/exim/sendonly-mail-server-with-exim-on-debian-6-squeeze |
| 16:33.25 | collin11 | nkuttler:but i'm talking about just simple desktop pc, no server ... |
| 16:33.29 | nkuttler | ssmtp relies on external smarthosts though, doesn't it? |
| 16:33.34 | albru123 | keltim: For server usage, I have a cron setup to clone some folders onto the drive o I can take it away sometimes |
| 16:33.37 | droid909 | applicable* |
| 16:33.46 | nkuttler | collin11: er, yes? |
| 16:33.56 | NoImNotNineVolt | collin11: don't install an MTA. you don't need one. |
| 16:34.06 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: YES, and no. when I am around its local to me. BUT, I am often away for long periods (3-4 months and long distances 10000+km) so I need to rely on local "help". |
| 16:34.23 | NoImNotNineVolt | why would exim be installed by default? what madness is this? |
| 16:34.29 | nkuttler | JohnA1: you can't ssh in? |
| 16:34.43 | nkuttler | !why exim |
| 16:34.44 | dpkg | Exim was chosen as the default MTA a long time ago: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1997/06/msg00476.html or see http://feayn.org/~lewis/exim.txt |
| 16:34.44 | NoImNotNineVolt | nkuttler: why would it be hard to have a system without an mta? |
| 16:35.03 | nkuttler | NoImNotNineVolt: because many packages depend on one |
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| 16:35.34 | nkuttler | NoImNotNineVolt: if you care at all about email, you'll probably install something else. otherwise it works just fine |
| 16:35.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | i care a lot about email and i don't run exim nor have i installed an alternative mta. |
| 16:36.02 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: Again yes and no. depending on where I go (am sent) some things like ssh are blocked. I had wondered abour webmin but as my setup is not quite standard I am not certain! |
| 16:36.10 | nkuttler | NoImNotNineVolt: good for you |
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| 16:36.33 | NoImNotNineVolt | that was intended at a counterexample to your claim. |
| 16:36.35 | nkuttler | JohnA1: webmin is really bad, and not supported here |
| 16:36.47 | nkuttler | NoImNotNineVolt: no, you installed something else |
| 16:36.57 | nkuttler | e.g. nothing |
| 16:37.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | nkuttler: please stop trolling. nothing is not something. |
| 16:37.31 | nkuttler | NoImNotNineVolt: we can take this to #debian-offtopic if you care |
| 16:37.48 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: I agree, but when you are clutching at straws... |
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| 16:38.43 | NoImNotNineVolt | collin11: please ignore everything you just heard about MTAs. you don't need one, and unless you want the responsibility of maintaining and securing a mail server, you don't want one. |
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| 16:40.07 | albru123 | nothing? |
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| 16:40.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | sorry, i got droid909 and collin11 mixed up. |
| 16:40.55 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: the only ports that are almost guaranteed to be open are 53, 25, 80, 443 (possibly filtered), 587, 993, (? the last two). VPN suggestions? |
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| 16:44.21 | nkuttler | JohnA1: well, anything you can connect to. if you can't get out through ssh, what makes you think you can connect to a vpn? |
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| 16:45.13 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: optimism (mis-placed) |
| 16:45.49 | nkuttler | JohnA1: i hear you can proxy ssh through http(s), never tried to do that though |
| 16:46.11 | nkuttler | JohnA1: but if "they" do any packet inspection that might not be possible either |
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| 16:46.27 | nkuttler | JohnA1: you might want to look into tor as well.. |
| 16:46.48 | JohnA1 | nkuttler: any experiance with the "great firewall"? |
| 16:48.12 | nkuttler | JohnA1: i'd ask the guys in #debian-zh on oftc |
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| 16:48.32 | collin11 | nkuttler:So im confused now. Do i need this exim4 on my home pc or no ? I'm trying to make lightweight environment, on that pc i will only run internet browser and virtualbox. |
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| 16:49.00 | nkuttler | collin11: you don't need it, no. |
| 16:49.21 | nkuttler | collin11: personally, i want an mta on every system, but it's really up to you |
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| 16:49.31 | collin11 | ok |
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| 16:54.55 | JohnA1 | q2) repeat - susggestions for a "cron" like tool that will allow for long range task/job scheduling. ie DNSSEC gen on 2016-03-01 |
| 16:55.34 | jhutchins | JohnA1: at |
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| 16:57.56 | JohnA1 | jhutchins: Tanks I had completely forgotten at |
| 16:58.08 | JohnA1 | jhutchins: tanks _> thanks |
| 16:58.26 | jhutchins | JohnA1: tanks accepted as well. |
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| 17:00.34 | albru123 | Even autoFS doesn't work :( |
| 17:00.50 | nkuttler | collin11: i want an mta because of cronjobs and other reporting tools |
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| 17:03.52 | Psy-Q | which package might the Adwaita gnome/gtk theme be in? |
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| 17:04.52 | Psy-Q | libadwaita.so is in gnome-themes-standard, but i have that and the adwaita theme is now showing |
| 17:04.57 | collin11 | nkuttler:ok |
| 17:06.26 | collin11 | what is good lighweight browser with html5 support? Like netsurf ... |
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| 17:07.14 | Psy-Q | collin11: html5 in the sense of html5 video or just in general? |
| 17:07.42 | jmd | Any grub experts here? |
| 17:08.03 | collin11 | html5 video, for youtube bassically |
| 17:08.03 | Psy-Q | collin11: in general i find konqueror to be pretty good at most things. also, built-in adblocker |
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| 17:08.13 | Psy-Q | aha, ok. let me check what konqueror supports there |
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| 17:08.57 | Psy-Q | collin11: it does not support MSE or VP9. but H.264 and VP8 work fine |
| 17:09.23 | Psy-Q | so you won't get 4K but you'll get 720p at least |
| 17:09.48 | collin11 | 720p enough for me :D thanks |
| 17:10.06 | Psy-Q | no prob :) |
| 17:12.02 | RoyK | !ask | jmd |
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| 17:14.01 | JohnA1 | I run a server which is often unattended and difficult to get to! After a bit of digging and some trial and error I have managed to it and its UPS to work together during prolonged power outages. I replaced the apccontrol script doshutdown option(?) with one that issues a ups hibernate command and then waits for the power to die. to handle the race condition if the timer expires the system reboot. ? would it be a "good" idea to p |
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| 17:19.47 | jmd | RoyK: Please don't use the bot to throw rebukes at people you think below your level. |
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| 17:21.00 | Iridos | also, this is not |
| 17:21.04 | Janusz1 | Hi, I just installed nvidia drivers, I have kernel 4.1 (tried also on 3.19), when I do modprobe nvidia I get http://pastebin.com/k7Xxechc any idea why? |
| 17:21.29 | Iridos | this is not #ubuntu, so this (x | user) is not how the bot works |
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| 17:22.52 | Iridos | JohnA1, your sentence is cut off after "a good idea to" |
| 17:24.32 | JohnA1 | Iridos: Would it be a good idea to put the machine into rcS state or equivalent? if so how do I do that with systemd? |
| 17:25.16 | abrotman | jmd: there is #grub, or just ask away |
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| 17:26.14 | JohnA1 | Iridos: rather than rebooting would it be feasible put the system into "emergency" mode wait for power to died, if it doesn't recover from emargency mode. ? how? |
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| 17:30.02 | jmd | abrotman: I have tried #grub. I'm not going to waste my time and everyone else's with a long winded question if there is nobody here qualified to answer it. |
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| 17:30.49 | mtn | heh |
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| 17:31.16 | Iridos | collin11, I wish I could answer "debtags" to that question... they're really the mechanism that should give you a list ... but... sadly nobody tagged packages accordingly, so far... you could be the first :) |
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| 17:32.07 | milkywayprotein | Gnome doesn't let you Ctrl Alt D to top bar, if a window is fullscreen, is that correct? |
| 17:32.29 | Iridos | jmd, the only way for anyone to know if they're qualified to answer it is by reading your long winded question, though. I cannot guarantee anyone will be able to answer if you ask the question... but I can guarantee that nobody can answer it if you don't ask it. |
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| 17:33.11 | ksk | what Iridos says, people will never anwser to an "do you know about XY" metaquestion |
| 17:33.48 | unborn | jmd, what was the question? sorry I was not here at the time you did post it |
| 17:33.49 | Brigo | Janusz1, i think you need the nvidia driver module. |
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| 17:34.36 | Iridos | JohnA1, rcS is not a state/runlevel, but the the boot-scripts run at boot-up... so I'm not sure what you mean. But hibernate and then bring it up manually after power returned sounds like a good/sound plan to me |
| 17:34.59 | albru123 | Can someone tell me why is this happening? https://paste.debian.net/314666/ |
| 17:35.13 | albru123 | Is automount running under some other user than root? |
| 17:35.33 | Iridos | JohnA1, did you mean to put it into pm-suspend first? That's what windows does with laptops... then auto-wakes up and does the hibernate if still needed... but I think any more complicated set-up will make things more complicated for you, but not necessarily better |
| 17:35.37 | RoyK | jmd: and please ask to ask, don't ask if there are experts areound - the bot is here for good reason |
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| 17:36.02 | jmd | RoyK: Oh grow up. |
| 17:36.13 | unborn | albru123, removable with timeout check your usb devices |
| 17:36.22 | Janusz1 | Brigo: I think I know why this is happening, when I try to reinstall nvidia-kernel-dkms it fails to install modules, this is log: http://pastebin.com/7xC4rjST |
| 17:36.40 | Janusz1 | it search for autoconf.h and auto.conf in headers-common |
| 17:36.45 | Janusz1 | while it is in -amd64 |
| 17:36.51 | Janusz1 | but why? |
| 17:37.11 | RoyK | jmd: okokok - the bot is only for distinctive newbies and not for major know-it-alls - I will remember |
| 17:37.11 | unborn | RoyK, just ignore it.. |
| 17:37.15 | Brigo | Janusz1, lines 87-91 |
| 17:37.47 | Janusz1 | Brigo: yes, I know, those files exists in /usr/src/linux-headers-4.1.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 17:37.51 | Janusz1 | I checked |
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| 17:38.46 | Brigo | Janusz1, are you running jessie? |
| 17:38.50 | Janusz1 | yes |
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| 17:38.55 | Brigo | with backports |
| 17:39.01 | JohnA1 | Iridos: unfortunately doing anything manually might be a problem. I could be anywhere from next door to 10000+Km away. The power has to stay on, part of the problem is that if the turns off the UPs will not restore power to what it sees as a "gracefully" exiting system. |
| 17:39.07 | Janusz1 | yes, this kernel was in repository |
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| 17:39.39 | unborn | albru123, external disks may be dead for usb connection or something.. errors you have is that backup external disk is not reachable due some permission issues or somewhat.. |
| 17:40.03 | Brigo | Janusz1, we have the same kernel, then and i am using nvidia without a problem |
| 17:40.12 | Brigo | can't see why that error. :-/ |
| 17:42.02 | JohnA1 | Iridos: I have it working at the moment, when the UPS get near the end of battery, It signals the server which then issues a UPS hibernate command. If you kill the server the UPS has enough power left and a very small load that it thinks it can run for up to 84 hours. |
| 17:42.15 | Brigo | Janusz1, i think that is about your problem: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=121784 |
| 17:43.14 | JohnA1 | Iridos: even if the power comes back it does not restart the server. The UPS has to died with the server still running. |
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| 17:43.56 | Iridos | JohnA1, that sounds useful... |
| 17:45.23 | Iridos | JohnA1, by "manually", I meant to restart by some wake-on-lan mechanism or a remote console or somesuch that will be restarted e.g. because it's not behind the UPS |
| 17:45.54 | jhutchins | Brigo: One of the fun things about Nvidia chipsets is that they're used by various hardware manufacturers who can implement the same chipset differently. |
| 17:46.38 | Brigo | jhutchins, but this is a compilation problem. |
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| 17:47.54 | albru123 | unborn: I can mount it manually without any issue |
| 17:49.38 | unborn | albru123, so have look at the script you are using to mount it automatically.. error msg is complaining regards some permissions issues.. make sure system have proper permissions to mount this automatically (not as you but as system user)... |
| 17:49.59 | jhutchins | albru123: Gnome and other desktops and some filemanagers have the ability to mount removable drives as the user with fuse. They often mount them as root, read-only for some strange reason. |
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| 17:50.21 | jhutchins | albru123: I believe I had one xfce desktop that required gnome in order to do this. |
| 17:50.57 | unborn | jhutchins, ? |
| 17:50.59 | albru123 | jhutchins: I'm not using any desktop |
| 17:51.46 | albru123 | unborn: I'm using just an automount assignment, only things I can change are mount options |
| 17:52.11 | unborn | jhutchins, we are talking about mounting disk in boot.. i guess.. |
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| 17:54.08 | albru123 | unborn: I'm talking about USB hard drive, most of the time it will be available during the boot time, but not always, so I wan't it to be able to mount the drive automatically after insertion |
| 17:54.17 | unborn | albru123, well try to mount them via some system user.. I used fstab to mount disks before system would boot up and system was used that external disks as backup partition.. |
| 17:54.17 | Nindustries | Hi guys, a netstat -s shows me a lot of stuff under TcpExt.. can anyone confirm if this is normal..? http://pastie.org/private/ldtqcqeomzvwmlqi1v6eba |
| 17:54.41 | unborn | albru123, aha.. now I can see.. |
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| 17:55.42 | unborn | albru123, well as I said my knowhow is reaching only to usb mounted permanently and un-plugged only when server was in danger or it burns it out heh |
| 17:56.38 | albru123 | unborn: Um, so how to do that? I used mount command inside udev with fstab line for it, but from jessie, mount command inside udev doesn't work |
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| 17:58.12 | JohnA1 | Iridos: We have looked at nearly all of these, none of them work in this particular setup. May be our setup is wrong, but it works 99% of the time. |
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| 17:58.35 | LordShadowWIng | http://www.mcld.co.uk/decipher |
| 17:58.55 | LordShadowWIng | (Sorry wrong chat) |
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| 17:59.26 | unborn | albru123, meh that was possibly slightly changed as well.. to be honest I use now old laptop as ssh server for backups with internal hdd.. did not come across this problem yet which means I should do some exploring.. sorry for not helping you on this issue.. I just use automatic boot mount via fstab.. |
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| 18:00.37 | lubarch | vm.swappiness=1 or vm.swappiness=5 which one would be better option? |
| 18:01.01 | ewew | lubarch Kernel version ? |
| 18:01.08 | albru123 | unborn: Well, I can't do anything about that... |
| 18:01.20 | lubarch | yes |
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| 18:02.22 | unborn | albru123, I thing well.. give us couple of days.. I am interesting in this issue my self. |
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| 18:03.11 | albru123 | unborn: I'm trying to resolve it for three days... This is the closest point I can achieve |
| 18:03.15 | lubarch | ewew: yes |
| 18:03.20 | ewew | lubarch What you want to do ? You want less swapping |
| 18:03.40 | ewew | ? |
| 18:03.40 | lubarch | yes |
| 18:03.57 | ewew | lubarch Debian version ? |
| 18:04.08 | lubarch | ewew: yes |
| 18:04.10 | GJdan | Why would a server that is hosting multiple websites get "firefox can't establish a connection to the server" for just one of them? |
| 18:04.22 | GJdan | server is running a basic lamp stack |
| 18:04.25 | unborn | albru123, well first of all can you pm me your mount script? i mean your setup (via pastebin of course) as error msg complains regards the permissions.. - I will try to replicate on my system |
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| 18:04.32 | unborn | and we will see.. |
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| 18:05.04 | albru123 | unborn: okay |
| 18:05.18 | unborn | GJdan, coz you have problem :) |
| 18:05.51 | GJdan | Ah, lovely. A problem. I suppose I'm doomed :'( |
| 18:06.19 | ewew | GJdan What the logs say ? |
| 18:06.31 | GJdan | nothing useful :\ |
| 18:06.57 | ewew | GJdan Pastebin the output from netstat -anv |
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| 18:07.49 | GJdan | checked apache error logs, and syslog, no clues. Thing is it's working fine atm. It happens intermittently :\ I'll try that next time I see the problem |
| 18:07.50 | abrotman | jmd: There's no short version? |
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| 18:08.53 | TheLemonMan | albru123, you might like this https://github.com/LemonBoy/ldm |
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| 18:09.41 | ewew | GJdan Maybe some random flod ? |
| 18:09.41 | albru123 | TheLemonMan: Yeah, it looks nice, thanks |
| 18:10.41 | GJdan | ah, actually I see some more useful errors in /var/log/messages |
| 18:10.49 | GJdan | I always forget to check that one :\ |
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| 18:13.17 | albru123 | unborn: btw I set fstype to fuse because of some problems with ntfs-3g |
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| 18:14.26 | albru123 | When I set it to ntfs-3g, it is showing this (autofs is doing something wrong probably): https://paste.debian.net/314669/ |
| 18:15.25 | unborn | albru123, do you have any disk with ext4 ? just for trial... |
| 18:15.40 | albru123 | nope, but can format this one |
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| 18:16.39 | GJdan | or... not, actually these errors are also useless |
| 18:17.00 | GJdan | ewew: flod? flood? |
| 18:17.20 | ewew | yes |
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| 18:17.51 | f31n | hi is it normal that unter debian jessy there is no status from restarting services anymore? |
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| 18:18.02 | ewew | GJdan Or random loss on the way to server. |
| 18:18.28 | f31n | when i type in service xy restart i just drop into the new line, nothing about stoped ok, started ok or anything like that |
| 18:18.53 | ewew | f31n It is using now systemd. |
| 18:18.55 | AvatarA | start using systemctl f31n |
| 18:19.12 | GJdan | hm |
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| 18:19.45 | f31n | /etc/init.d/xy? i thought i shoud use service instead cause its the 'better' way? |
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| 18:20.13 | unborn | albru123, sorry for late reply, Im just trying to eat my dinner heh well if you have no data there and you are sure you can do it, try it.. |
| 18:20.56 | Djdeep | Hi @ all |
| 18:21.23 | albru123 | unborn: With ext4 AutoFS is not creating directory to mount into |
| 18:21.36 | Djdeep | I have a question, about midnight commander |
| 18:22.23 | Djdeep | Can i copy from hdd to usb hdd and quit the terminal without abort the operation ? |
| 18:22.42 | unborn | GJdan, did you check your iptables? did you check dns routes to it? is it on local net or outside net? if outside did you try to load the site via tor? did you checked your network interface for server as well? ports? did you checked hostname? if everything is okay, check the loopback on server and on your router.. |
| 18:22.58 | Djdeep | I want copy movie from dreambox to external usb hdd and telnet with midnight commander |
| 18:23.02 | unborn | albru123, any errors ? |
| 18:23.07 | unborn | maybe permissions? |
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| 18:23.55 | unborn | Djdeep, not know to me.. however you can set up command on end of copying to terminate the program |
| 18:24.03 | unborn | if that is what are you looking for |
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| 18:24.42 | albru123 | unborn: No, with no fstype - "Mount call unsuccessful: not a directory" (or something like that, it is shown in my system language) |
| 18:24.47 | Djdeep | I must run the pc till the copy is ready ? |
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| 18:25.49 | albru123 | And with fstype=auto - "mount: wrong file system type, switch, superblock on /dev/sdb1....." |
| 18:25.57 | unborn | albru123, that is strange.. check the paths and ids for that disk.. also it may be worth to check disk it self.. maybe it is dying |
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| 18:26.39 | unborn | aha albru123 check mount script.. maybe you didnt change file system specs there |
| 18:26.45 | unborn | *didnt |
| 18:26.52 | milkywayproteins | (Gnome/Jessie) I don't want the Super key to show the overview. I set the settings > keyboard > shortcuts > system > Show the overview to "Super + O". but just hitting Super brings it up anyway. |
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| 18:27.47 | unborn | Djdeep, I usually do.. I like to have visual control you know.. |
| 18:27.59 | albru123 | unborn: Oh, I had some uneccessary lines in auto.master |
| 18:28.09 | unborn | Djdeep, did you checked out mc help file? |
| 18:28.09 | albru123 | So I deleted them and it's working |
| 18:28.23 | unborn | albru123, :) |
| 18:28.26 | unborn | good news |
| 18:28.33 | albru123 | unborn: Now let's try ntfs |
| 18:28.37 | unborn | I was hoping that hdd is not dying meh |
| 18:28.56 | unborn | lets try ntfs albru123 but I would still suggest you to use ext4 ;) |
| 18:28.56 | albru123 | I thing those switches were just uncompatible with ntfs-3g |
| 18:29.45 | albru123 | unborn: I personally would like to use it too, but it's really a struggle when you want to take it to school or to friend with a Windows PC |
| 18:30.02 | unborn | albru123, could it be however error log told to me at least complaining about permissions |
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| 18:30.22 | milkywayproteins | (Found my answer, Tweak Tool had a conflicting option with Gnome Settings in Keyboard and Mouse > Switch Between Desktop and Overview. I set it to right Super so it wouldn't work with left Super. |
| 18:30.38 | unborn | well there could be solution for that as well.. let see how ntfs performs albru123 first |
| 18:32.03 | albru123 | unborn: Formated and rewrited udev rule, let's see |
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| 18:32.23 | albru123 | With fstype=auto... |
| 18:32.56 | albru123 | unborn: Damn, looks like it's working |
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| 18:34.12 | GJdan | unborn: it's on an outside server. I didn't try using tor. I didn't check iptables or routes. I'll do that next time. ssh and other sites on the server worked fine |
| 18:34.12 | unborn | :) albru123 I did mention to you on very start of our convo that you should check mount script :D cool.. so make your self some docs in a case you will come across same issue... and enjoy.. (and perform backup) ;) |
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| 18:34.54 | albru123 | unborn: Thanks a lot, I thought auto.master is ok... seems like it's not |
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| 18:35.23 | unborn | albru123, whats the problem then? |
| 18:35.36 | albru123 | unborn: Oh, I meant before the fix |
| 18:35.50 | albru123 | unborn: Now I'm just checking if rsync is working properly |
| 18:35.56 | unborn | albru123, :) it will works |
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| 18:36.38 | unborn | albru123, as I said make your self docs for this issue.. so next time you will do it in 5 mins :) I am going to finish my dinner now.. brb |
| 18:37.22 | albru123 | unborn: Thanks a lot, rsync is working... I've been unsure because it needs to be used somehow before it gets actually mounted. Thanks a lot again |
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| 18:44.03 | unborn | albru123, happy to help, have good day |
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| 18:46.00 | leadbox | i installed debian8 on an external drive but did not have a connection at the time. How to install/activate the kernel driver ? I find that one finds more signals than the STA |
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| 18:48.17 | jhutchins | leadbox: What do you mean by STA? |
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| 18:48.44 | leadbox | jhutchins: the proprietary one is STA right ? |
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| 18:49.35 | leadbox | jhutchins: i found one on another distro iso and got it to work but rather have the free version |
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| 18:50.23 | jhutchins | leadbox: I have no idea what you are talking about. |
| 18:51.14 | bazhang | broadcom leadbox ? |
| 18:51.37 | leadbox | jhutchins: Maybe STA is wrong term. I am on mint right now but this is for debian8 install. |
| 18:51.50 | leadbox | yes Broadcom, should have mentioned. |
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| 18:52.39 | jhutchins | leadbox: So you're looking for a broadcom driver. Presumably a network interface, and since you mention signals maybe wifi. |
| 18:52.43 | leadbox | in mint i did not install proprietary drivers and works good. In sysnaptic I see nothing under broadcom |
| 18:53.02 | jhutchins | leadbox: Which chipset is it? lspci -nn to see. |
| 18:53.22 | leadbox | jhutchins: i need the free module/driver for broadcom 4313. |
| 18:53.32 | jhutchins | leadbox: There we go. |
| 18:53.41 | jhutchins | !bcm4313 |
| 18:53.41 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) - incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by Broadcom's proprietary driver - is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset. Not supported by the <b43> driver at this time. For device support, ask about me about <brcmsmac>, <wl>. Not to be confused with the <bcm4331>. |
| 18:54.02 | unborn | GJdan, if you want pm domian which you cannot reach.. I'll have look for you |
| 18:54.36 | leadbox | Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01) |
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| 18:54.48 | leadbox | Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
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| 18:55.33 | unborn | hey leadbox .. did you had a look at this brilliant resources? https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 18:55.59 | unborn | leadbox, I hope so it will do right job for you |
| 18:56.17 | GJdan | ah okay. I found it potentially |
| 18:56.27 | GJdan | when it goes down it seems to be forwarding to the wrong ip |
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| 18:56.33 | GJdan | looking for the reason why... |
| 18:56.35 | jhutchins | leadbox: So what you need is the brcmsmac driver, which should be part of the kernel package, and the firmware-brcm80211 package from non-free. |
| 18:56.39 | GJdan | unborn: ^ |
| 18:56.40 | leadbox | unborn: it is external hardrive (not with me) trying to manually activate/install module for it |
| 18:56.45 | unborn | GJdan, logs .. |
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| 18:56.53 | jhutchins | leadbox: wl is the proprietary driver. |
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| 18:57.42 | unborn | jhutchins, didnt you just answered the question regards open and closed driver regards this chip? |
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| 18:58.19 | unborn | or non free.. which means no open source? |
| 18:59.01 | unborn | GJdan, any luck? |
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| 18:59.27 | leadbox | jhutchins: i dont need both do I ? I can use apt-get to download brcmsmac ? |
| 19:00.00 | leadbox | jhutchins: right, wl is one i found on iso that am using on it now |
| 19:00.13 | leadbox | bcmwl |
| 19:00.41 | jhutchins | leadbox: You should already have that in the kernel package. It's probably already loading but lacks the firmware. |
| 19:02.00 | leadbox | the distro i am on right now is using: b43, mac80211, cfg80211, bcma, cordic, ssb |
| 19:02.51 | leadbox | jhutchins: the mac and cfg are already installed on debian8 install and currently the bcmwl |
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| 19:07.15 | unborn | GJdan, I was just thinking... any cloudflare or something involved? |
| 19:07.22 | GJdan | unborn: Not really but it seems to be to do with our dns management |
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| 19:08.41 | GJdan | unborn: zoneedit |
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| 19:09.07 | GJdan | no cloudflare on this site. Not busy enough |
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| 19:10.21 | jhutchins | leadbox: You don't actually appear to be running Debian. |
| 19:10.30 | unborn | GJdan, ah I see.. well my reply would be kindly hopeless for you but I manage all dnses on my own. |
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| 19:10.38 | unborn | GJdan, I mean on my own server |
| 19:10.56 | leadbox | jhutchins: downloaded firmware, thanks. Just read brcmsmac = mac80211, right ? so will apt-get the bcmwl out, install new, reboot. Correct? |
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| 19:11.14 | unborn | so it must be something in dns records.. have look on files if you can GJdan |
| 19:11.33 | unborn | GJdan look for that wrong ip |
| 19:11.41 | leadbox | jhutchins: I said so. It is external install. drive is at home. |
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| 19:12.19 | leadbox | jhutchins: need driver to work to be able to connect and update |
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| 19:13.13 | unborn | leadbox, he said that it seems to him that you dont use debian.. I understand that it is remote session.. can you confirm to him that you use debian on remote machine? otherwise I would agree with his view as it looks to me same eh |
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| 19:14.06 | leadbox | unborn: not remote system. on an external WD elements drive currently at home. Debian with gnome3. |
| 19:14.48 | leadbox | just trying to get drivers now so can set up at home, since doesnt want to connect |
| 19:15.12 | unborn | leadbox, home ? like what /home like partition? |
| 19:15.26 | leadbox | anyhow, going to try the firmware that I just downloaded |
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| 19:15.49 | leadbox | unborn: no, home as in "me casa". |
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| 19:16.16 | leadbox | jhutchins: ty for info, will try it out. |
| 19:16.19 | unborn | leadbox, aha I see.. and you are trying to load driver onto your machine with debian is that right? |
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| 19:17.13 | leadbox | unborn: to an external harddrive. See above |
| 19:17.17 | leadbox | until next time |
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| 19:17.54 | unborn | meh I guess I have to re-read :) |
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| 19:26.15 | unborn | @ leadbox - that is not possible. |
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| 19:32.43 | jhutchins | unborn: I believe he's making plans to update when he gets home (which we infer he is not now). |
| 19:34.33 | jhutchins | unborn: I'm not sure he's actually running debian though, the proprietary wl driver shouldn't be on the ISO. |
| 19:35.17 | unborn | jhutchins, me too.. however what he was saying all the time was to load drivers into kernel on debian install on external hdd which was not booted or mounted.. it is insane to give advice to this as you cannot generate logs or anything.. at least for me.. btw thanks for your suggestion regards fstab mounts but you possibly did not read whole conversation. However you where right regards some file managers :) |
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| 19:35.38 | unborn | jhutchins, just what I said.. ^^^ |
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| 19:36.32 | jhutchins | unborn: Presumably he will mount it and modify the system later. |
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| 19:38.50 | unborn | jhutchins, exactly as you are saying this.. it is not good to do it on blind eye.. he must be booted up on exact system.. if he create docs for him self - that is his issue.. but it is insane to advice on system which is not booted and have no logs.. meh not insane but pointless at least for me.. its like how that car would suit me when I sit inside, having no idea what car you are going to sit in.. |
| 19:39.37 | unborn | jhutchins, lets hope he will boot up and use right system then you can see how you can help him.. well we shall I say :) |
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| 19:49.00 | JyZyXEL | why does '/run/user/1000/pulse' randomly become owned by root:root? |
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| 19:49.18 | JyZyXEL | and can i somehow permanently freeze it to correct permissions? |
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| 19:51.31 | rainfyre | JyZyXEL: i've never even seen the /run directory before. what are you trying to do? |
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| 19:51.58 | JyZyXEL | listen to audio |
| 19:52.18 | rainfyre | and you're trying to start it from the terminal? |
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| 19:52.44 | JyZyXEL | no? |
| 19:52.53 | JyZyXEL | where did you get that idea |
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| 19:52.58 | abferm | Any ideas on what is wrong with my locale? I have LANG set to en_US.UTF-8 and see things like this a lot on my serial console ��â/etc/machine-id��â -> ��â/var/lib/dbus/machine-id��â. |
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| 19:53.57 | rainfyre | "why does '/run/user/1000/pulse' randomly become owned by root:root?" <-- b/c it looks like you're trying to run something from the terminal |
| 19:54.12 | JyZyXEL | ?? |
| 19:54.18 | otyugh | abferm: did you do locale-gen ? |
| 19:54.30 | abferm | otyugh: yeah |
| 19:54.53 | JyZyXEL | how does that imply running something from terminal? |
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| 19:55.07 | otyugh | sometimes I goy something that beaks into my console. Reopening one does the same stuff ? |
| 19:55.20 | otyugh | *got* *breaks |
| 19:55.42 | ius | Using iptables-persistent on jessie, if I add v6 rules my box fails to boot (read: spawn usable ssh - i have no console access)? what could possibly be the cause? |
| 19:55.45 | rainfyre | that's what it looks like to me. maybe you could provide more information if you want an answer that will help you |
| 19:55.53 | ius | the v6 rules work fine if i load them manually using iptables-restore.. |
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| 19:59.07 | abferm | otyugh: yeah, it doesn't matter if I close and reopen my connection. |
| 19:59.39 | otyugh | also in tty ? |
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| 20:00.41 | abferm | That is the only way I have to communicate with the host |
| 20:02.04 | abferm | I'm using an ftdi connected directly to an arm system running debian jessie |
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| 20:22.50 | milkywayprotein | I installed gnome-do which installed mono and a bunch of other stuff. I removed gnome-do but the other stuff remains. tried to remove mono but says it doesn't exist. How do I get rid of it? |
| 20:22.53 | milkywayprotein | Tried purge. |
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| 20:23.07 | milkywayprotein | Autoremove too. |
| 20:23.36 | Nirvash | This may be -offtopic (you tell me), but is there a web-based, self-hosted FTP client that exists for Debian? |
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| 20:27.09 | abrotman | self-hosted? |
| 20:27.26 | Nirvash | I think I found it -- looks like ownCloud may be the ticket. |
| 20:27.30 | abrotman | milkywayproteins: using which tool? |
| 20:27.43 | milkywayproteins | abrotman, installed with synaptic, removed with apt-get |
| 20:27.49 | abrotman | Nirvash: There are web-based FTP clients. Consider that you probalby shouldn't be using FTP |
| 20:27.55 | milkywayproteins | Sorry if I miss a message wireless is weak |
| 20:27.59 | abrotman | milkywayproteins: that might explain it .. you can try the autoremove features |
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| 20:28.35 | Nirvash | abrotman -- is there another protocol that is better suited for what I'm asking? |
| 20:28.47 | abrotman | for uploading files to a server? |
| 20:28.57 | abrotman | scp and sftp are far better |
| 20:29.08 | abrotman | not sure about a web client though |
| 20:29.15 | rainfyre | rsync? |
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| 20:29.27 | rainfyre | obviously that's not a web client either |
| 20:29.42 | abrotman | ITYM rsync over ssh? :) |
| 20:29.49 | milkywayproteins | abrotman, did the autoremove already unfortunately. But why does it say mono doesnt exist? 'which mono' shows it does |
| 20:30.10 | Nirvash | Hmm, I guess a web-client is starting to make less sense ultimately. |
| 20:30.17 | Nirvash | Although ownCloud does look promising. |
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| 20:30.52 | rainfyre | abrotman: yes :) |
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| 20:51.53 | Joe7 | hi |
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| 20:52.54 | Joe7 | Could anyone -prettyplease- lead a hand to UNDELETE from ext3 partition? data was deleted 1day ago, and is 1 directory with 70GB of data. $100 bounty is ready to be awarded :) |
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| 20:55.07 | abrotman | Save it for the data recovery company |
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| 20:58.03 | jelly | Joe7: $100 covers one hour work, here in a east european country it takes about $300 to get decent data recovery service |
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| 21:00.24 | vitfalk | Nello guys |
| 21:00.31 | vitfalk | Hi |
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| 21:04.25 | Joe7 | jelly: thanks for the headsup, need something that helps ;) Tried extundelete, no luck |
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| 21:05.45 | allizom | Joe7: look into testdisk/photorec |
| 21:06.09 | jhutchins | Joe7: The system isn't designed to make deleted files recoverable. A lot of people have trie photorec. If data has been written to the drive since the delete your chances are very low. |
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| 21:06.44 | jhutchins | jelly: I'm surprised it's come down so far - last I knew it was about five figures. |
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| 21:08.07 | jelly | jhutchins: apparently there are afforable insta-clear-enough-room labs |
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| 21:10.03 | Atm0spher1c | I built a debian package of sdl. Dpkg complains that it's trying to overwrite libsdl package that's already installed. Can I safely use dpkg --force-overwrite? |
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| 21:10.55 | blurkis | Atm0spher1c, safe? probably not.. it might mess stuff up, if your own package tries to overwrite files already installed.. |
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| 21:11.36 | Atm0spher1c | blurkis: But I'm basically just updating the package, no? |
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| 21:11.56 | shaun413 | hello |
| 21:12.10 | shaun413 | im tying to run a software and getting issues with pyhtong-opencv |
| 21:12.12 | Atm0spher1c | I can uninstall it then if I need to |
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| 21:12.47 | shaun413 | http://pastebin.com/E8Mw14DP |
| 21:12.49 | shaun413 | heres the error |
| 21:12.52 | shaun413 | down below |
| 21:14.17 | Joe7 | jhutchins: thanks. around 70GB was deleted..maybe 1GB was written since then, at max. Sucks, raid1 doesn't help much in cases like this ;) |
| 21:14.22 | shaun413 | any help |
| 21:14.48 | ewew | Joe7 Next time be more carefull. |
| 21:15.02 | Joe7 | would not be a biggie, but belongs to an animal shelter with 10years of their charity work documentation (photos).. |
| 21:15.09 | Joe7 | ewew: sure, tell them, would solve the issue. |
| 21:15.22 | jhutchins | Joe7: There is a solution for this. |
| 21:16.23 | shaun413 | antone? |
| 21:16.42 | Joe7 | jhutchins: all ears, really. |
| 21:16.59 | ewew | Joe7 How did it happen ? |
| 21:17.02 | allizom | Joe7: backup I'd guess |
| 21:17.16 | jhutchins | Joe7: Backups. It's crazy to have one copy of data like that. |
| 21:17.48 | jhutchins | Disks fail. Raid controllers fail. Fires happen. Mistakes happen. |
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| 21:18.15 | Joe7 | ewew: a smart user deleted their root album instead of a sub one. aka user error. :> |
| 21:18.35 | shaun413 | can anyone help? |
| 21:18.37 | Joe7 | jhutchins: I get you dude, but gotta work with what I have here, teaching them wont restore |
| 21:18.39 | jhutchins | Joe7: I know it's hard to sell management on the expense, but now would be a good time to get them interested. |
| 21:18.43 | shaun413 | http://pastebin.com/E8Mw14DP |
| 21:18.47 | shaun413 | heres the error |
| 21:19.00 | jhutchins | Joe7: Yeah, but still, fix the root problem while you're fixing the symptom. |
| 21:19.16 | jhutchins | Joe7: Is this ext4? |
| 21:19.40 | ewew | Joe7 If they dont start creating backups, then the data is not valuable. |
| 21:19.43 | Joe7 | jhutchins: its not like that..we provide free hosting for shelters and communities etc..for _free_. We have raid1 coverage of everything..but talking about 10TB of data here..cant really afford to keep offline daily/weekly backup |
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| 21:20.41 | shaun413 | how do I update debian repos? |
| 21:21.08 | Joe7 | jhutchins: ext3 |
| 21:21.13 | allizom | Joe7: I'd switch that RAID1 for a proper backup |
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| 21:22.48 | ewew | Joe7 Can you describe your hw ? |
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| 21:24.37 | Joe7 | ewew: i could, but would rather focus on _solving this immediate problem_ instead of learning about how it should _have_ been done. Obviously aware of offline backup solutions, which was unfortunately not a financial etc option here. Thx for understading.. |
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| 21:27.39 | abferm | can anyone tell me why sed -i -e "s/(@\\h)/device/g" is not replacing @\h in my file? |
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| 21:29.57 | jhutchins | abferm: Just a guess, maybe escape @ |
| 21:30.01 | Joe7 | thing is, after the directory was deleted, an empty directory with the same name got created there..is it confusing extundelete possibly? strange not to be able to undelete _anything_ of 70GBN |
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| 21:31.02 | jhutchins | Joe7: Maybe the clients could be persuaded to do their own backups. They should have that anyway, in case your company cuts their access for some reason. |
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| 21:33.15 | allizom | Joe7: stop using that disk drive. Boot off something else, install testdisk and use it |
| 21:33.28 | jhutchins | Joe7: This may be helpful: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/recovering-a-deleted-file-on-ext3-almost-there-441914/ |
| 21:33.33 | lpopov | abferm, try sed -e "s/@\\\h/device/g" |
| 21:33.37 | jhutchins | Joe7: Scroll down to the list of recommended tools. |
| 21:33.43 | jhutchins | Joe7: ext3 is the hardest to recover. |
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| 21:36.20 | bennypr0fane | hello, can reportbug send a report if it hasn't been configured for which SMTP server to use? |
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| 21:37.36 | bennypr0fane | Bcs I tried it yesterday, and it just went right ahead without complaining like "I don't know how to send your e-mail, you haven't supplied any mail server credentials" etc. |
| 21:37.52 | jhutchins | Joe7: It's often recommended to clone the partition and work on the clone, and to be sure that the original partition is not "live" or mounted until your recovery effort is done. |
| 21:38.02 | jelly | bennypr0fane: it tries to send directly to bugs.debian.org in that case, I think |
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| 21:38.29 | bennypr0fane | jelly, but how? |
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| 21:39.05 | jelly | bennypr0fane: just like any other smtp client software? |
| 21:40.14 | jelly | connects to port 25 of the machine listed as MX or A record for "bugs.debian.org.", talks SMTP to it |
| 21:40.57 | Atm0spher1c | How do I update a package with my own source compiled deb build that is a dependancy by other packages? It was not recommended to use dpkg --force-overwrite. I uninstalled the package along with all the packages that depend on it. Now during reinstall, apt wants to pull in the dependancy that I intended to upgrade. |
| 21:40.59 | bennypr0fane | jelly, but any other software usually requires one to tell it which SMTP server to use and how to start talking to it. reportbug did not. just wondering if my report went through. I filed it against pavucontrol, but don't know where it turn up then. I thought it should be here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=pulseaudio;dist=stable |
| 21:41.18 | bennypr0fane | jelly, so bugs.debian.org has an SMTP server? |
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| 21:43.21 | jelly | bennypr0fane: yes |
| 21:43.29 | allizom | bennypr0fane: you should look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=stable;package=pavucontrol not pulseaudio |
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| 21:50.15 | bennypr0fane | jelly I can't find my bug report here though. Releated problem: I tried to replace the buggy version in Stable with the one from Stretch, which according to reportbug is 3.0-3+b2. I backported the package, but apparently it installed 3.0-3: http://pastie.org/10464947 |
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| 21:50.59 | parabyte | if you create a ext2 filesystem using current ext2 tools and if you take that drive to say a 2.2 series kernel machine the ext2 becomes unreadable and the 2.2 kernel spits out a error stating the file system uses new features! |
| 21:51.07 | parabyte | this is all debian based systems |
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| 21:52.17 | bennypr0fane | allizom, thanks, it seems my report isn't here. There is an older one though which describes my exact issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724014 this was filed against an ancient version though - but still not fixed in the one I have installed now. |
| 21:52.19 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/724014 in pavucontrol (open): «pavucontrol: Output settings are forgotten and must be set again»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-09-22; last modified: 2013-09-22. |
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| 21:53.17 | bennypr0fane | Can I vote for this bug or something? Does it make sense if I update the version number? |
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| 21:54.10 | jelly | !binNMU |
| 21:54.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, binnmu is binary <NMU>, which means a package was recompiled without changing the source. This often occurs when one of the libraries a package depends on has changed, and it needs to be recompiled against the newer library. The <debian revision> part of the package version normally has +b1 (+b2 etc) appended to it. http://wiki.debian.org/binNMU |
| 21:54.36 | jelly | bennypr0fane: ^^ what that +b2 means, and why a backport doesn't have +b2 version |
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| 21:55.35 | jelly | so if a binNMU fixes a bug, it means the bug is triggered by something in the build environment |
| 21:56.51 | bennypr0fane | jelly: ...meaning I can't try the +b2 version in my build environment? |
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| 21:57.51 | jelly | bennypr0fane: there's nothing to try -- the source code wasn't changed, the environment had been changed instead |
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| 21:58.31 | jelly | and then someone triggered a rebuild (say, against a fixed version of some library) and magically the bug was gone |
| 21:58.35 | parabyte | can i report this ext2 thing as a bug? |
| 21:58.46 | bennypr0fane | then why does reportbug insist that the +b2 version newer? |
| 21:58.47 | parabyte | cause to my understanding ext2 is ext2 regardless of decade your in |
| 21:59.16 | parabyte | i can mount vintage ext2 partitions but no the other way around |
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| 21:59.46 | jelly | bennypr0fane: well it is. |
| 22:00.12 | bennypr0fane | jelly forgive my limited understanding of this, but if the +b version did fix the bug, why do you say there is nothing to try for me? |
| 22:01.20 | jelly | bennypr0fane: if the +b version fixed the bug, that means it got built against fixed libraries that are only present in the newer release |
| 22:01.52 | jelly | parabyte: the format and features available evolved with time (and versions), inode size comes to mind but there are many others |
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| 22:02.36 | bennypr0fane | jelly ...so that is yes to that previous question of mine? ("I can't try the +b2 version in my build environment?") |
| 22:03.16 | jelly | parabyte: use dumpe2fs -h to look at an old fs, and try to find differences in features, inode and block sizes etc. |
| 22:04.16 | jelly | bennypr0fane: yes. You can try building, but it's something else in the environment that fixes or creates the bug |
| 22:04.41 | parabyte | jelly, i will do a little web site document my findings |
| 22:04.45 | parabyte | its not that important just annoying |
| 22:04.58 | parabyte | plus im trying to get a more recent debian to work on my 486 |
| 22:05.12 | parabyte | was it debian 6 that was last to use initd |
| 22:05.14 | jelly | parabyte: 2.2 is very, very old. |
| 22:05.17 | parabyte | or 5? |
| 22:05.35 | jelly | some annoyance expected |
| 22:05.37 | parabyte | jelly, indeed ! i like using it for the reaction i get frm people :) |
| 22:05.41 | parabyte | from |
| 22:06.11 | parabyte | current debian kernel just reboots the 486 without no text on console, i learnt its a bug in the kernel |
| 22:06.12 | jelly | I like telling people that ask support for horribly old software to piss off... but I don't. |
| 22:06.46 | parabyte | jelly, no its just that, i expected ext2 to work regardless |
| 22:07.12 | bennypr0fane | jelly: Ok, so without knowing whether or not this bug was fixed in the new build, is it useful if I update that report (the one I linked to previously) to say the bug is still there in my build? |
| 22:07.24 | jelly | parabyte: it will, if you pick the right options for mke2fs |
| 22:07.46 | parabyte | i will try in a bit after i get tired of trying to get debian 6 to function |
| 22:07.54 | parabyte | on a 486 |
| 22:07.57 | parabyte | :) |
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| 22:08.15 | jelly | parabyte: does d-i boot? |
| 22:08.28 | parabyte | yes |
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| 22:08.39 | jelly | that's the same kernel, so clearly it works |
| 22:08.55 | parabyte | oh sorry i misunderstood |
| 22:08.58 | parabyte | no it does not |
| 22:09.00 | parabyte | sorry |
| 22:09.18 | parabyte | i have to use loadlin.exe and the kernel just dies |
| 22:09.33 | jelly | parabyte: can't boot from cdrom? |
| 22:10.06 | parabyte | no |
| 22:10.12 | parabyte | its really that old |
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| 22:11.16 | jelly | bennypr0fane: it might be worthwhile to replicate the issue on an actual debian installation first. I think solydxk is a derivative distro, with changes done unknown to us |
| 22:11.26 | venum | frenchs here ? |
| 22:11.29 | parabyte | http://www.mailbrowse.com/linux-kernel/77197.html |
| 22:11.39 | parabyte | i cant seem to find it in the official mailing list |
| 22:11.43 | parabyte | but there specifies the problem |
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| 22:11.49 | parabyte | with earlier kernel |
| 22:12.06 | parabyte | that is issue i get with current debians vs 486 |
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| 22:13.22 | bennypr0fane | jelly, I made sure that wasn't the case. In fact, that bug report would have been forwarded from SolydX to Debian. |
| 22:13.28 | jelly | parabyte: how did you get the stack trace to figure out that's your problem? |
| 22:13.46 | parabyte | im assuming thats my problem |
| 22:13.52 | jelly | parabyte: why? |
| 22:14.03 | parabyte | literally soon as the kernel starts it instantly reboots the hardware |
| 22:14.52 | parabyte | please excuse me my pizza is here |
| 22:14.54 | parabyte | :) |
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| 22:15.14 | jelly | parabyte: that's not really a symptom pointing to one definitive cause |
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| 22:16.22 | jelly | bennypr0fane: oook, so you're running debian and it's just the hostname is solydxk? |
| 22:17.05 | DanDare | On Wheezy I have this missing file /etc/ssh/moduli. I did 'apt-get install --reinstall openssh-client' to have file back but nothing happened, file isn't back. What am I missing? |
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| 22:17.35 | bennypr0fane | jelly, no, I run SolydX. But obviously I reported this bug there first. I was told that this is upstream, and it should go to Debian. |
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| 22:18.22 | jelly | bennypr0fane: ok, but can you confirm the same bug actually happens on a debian installation regardless of what they told you? |
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| 22:18.42 | jelly | dpkg, tell DanDare about confmiss |
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| 22:19.14 | DanDare | Thank you jelly |
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| 22:19.57 | bennypr0fane | jelly, not at the moment. I might get a live medium and see if it occurs in a live session. Do you think there could be different outcomes in a live system vs. installed one? |
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| 22:20.41 | jelly | bennypr0fane: depends on the bug, and I did not find what the actual bug is about |
| 22:20.53 | BenLue | i follow an tut but i get an error: /usr/sbin/postconf: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 81: overriding earlier entry: virtual_transport=virtual my postconf -n https://paste.debian.net/hidden/b4364864/ |
| 22:21.15 | jelly | bennypr0fane: going with a cautious "probably not" there |
| 22:21.19 | bennypr0fane | jelly, you did not find? What do you mean? |
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| 22:22.27 | jelly | bennypr0fane: I can't find in my log what the actual bug is, you joined asking about reportbug which is not the problem you're trying to solve |
| 22:23.38 | jelly | BenLue: sounds like you have two or more definitions for virtual_transport in the config file? |
| 22:24.00 | bennypr0fane | jelly: well my bug report obviously didn't go through (reportbug), but there already is an older one for my problem: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724014 |
| 22:24.01 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/724014 in pavucontrol (open): «pavucontrol: Output settings are forgotten and must be set again»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-09-22; last modified: 2013-09-22. |
| 22:24.21 | BenLue | jelly yes |
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| 22:24.47 | BenLue | virtual_transport = virtual & virtual_transport = dovecot |
| 22:24.49 | jelly | BenLue: "warning" is usually a non-fatal issue, hence, "warning". An "error" is usually something with definite consequences to functionality. |
| 22:24.58 | jelly | BenLue: well, don't |
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| 22:26.03 | BenLue | jelly how can i fix this Warning? |
| 22:26.26 | jelly | BenLue: don't have two conflicting definitions for the same setting? |
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| 22:27.59 | jelly | BenLue: main.cf basically has a key = value syntax. You can't have more than key with same name. Remove one. |
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| 22:28.27 | BenLue | jelly; is virtual_transport = virtual recommend? |
| 22:28.47 | jelly | BenLue: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#syntax |
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| 22:29.54 | jelly | BenLue: I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish. They do different things, and if you have a reason to change it, change it. But try to understand what you're changing and why. |
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| 22:30.57 | BenLue | jelly i try but the the definition "virtual_transport" isnt listet on http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#syntax |
| 22:31.19 | jelly | BenLue: no, that's the explanation for basic syntax |
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| 22:34.58 | jelly | BenLue: postfix (and mail in general) is a complex beast. you should have a thorough understanding of unix/linux principles and SMTP, and then start with BASIC... and STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html and only then move onto virtual. |
| 22:35.23 | BenLue | jelly thanks for Info |
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| 22:36.07 | srg | What's the best way to configure cpu frequency profiles? I tried setting up cpufreqd/cpufrequtils but it seems I don't have "ondemand" ? |
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| 22:38.19 | jelly | BenLue: I'm told the "ISPmail-style" tutorial at https://workaround.org/ isn't bad, and won't pretend things are simple and paint-by-numbers |
| 22:38.35 | jrabbit | how can I setup my tty font? |
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| 22:39.10 | jrabbit | e.g. my console access is like 25x160 |
| 22:40.27 | jelly | jrabbit: setfont command |
| 22:41.41 | jelly | jrabbit: eg. setfont /usr/share/consolefonts/Uni3-TerminusBold16.psf.gz |
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| 22:43.09 | jrabbit | jelly: thanks |
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| 23:12.14 | Angelvel | Hola |
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| 23:18.37 | cusco | hi |
| 23:19.09 | cusco | Im on a live debian based distro atm, and would like to install debian on the hard drive |
| 23:19.20 | cusco | can I use debotstrap or something to make it happen? |
| 23:19.30 | Angelvel | mmm de que se trata este canal |
| 23:19.54 | abrotman | cusco: the live CD has aninstaller, but yes, you can use deboostrap |
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| 23:20.00 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:20.00 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
| 23:20.07 | Angelvel | quien me pasa el wine 1.3.13 |
| 23:20.33 | cusco | its not debian live, its debian based... aninstaller is like a package?» |
| 23:20.53 | abrotman | sowhat are youtrying toinstlal? |
| 23:20.58 | abrotman | Ugh, seriously need a new keyboard |
| 23:21.07 | cusco | ah sorry |
| 23:21.15 | abrotman | cusco: what are you actually installing? |
| 23:21.34 | cusco | right now im on kali, but I would like to not wipe this usb drive |
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| 23:21.40 | cusco | but I mean to install debian |
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| 23:21.50 | abrotman | cusco: so use debootstrap |
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| 23:21.57 | cusco | ok so I've used debootstrap in the past, my issue is.. |
| 23:22.07 | cusco | I would like to install it on a md array |
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| 23:22.19 | cusco | so I'm worried about the boot |
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| 23:22.51 | cusco | should I have a single /boot partition or in the array as well? |
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| 23:26.15 | cusco | ok perhaps I will have to use a regular debian installer later |
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| 23:42.45 | kxb901 | is there anything in debian repos to log keystrokes? |
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| 23:55.19 | Guest55990 | i want used dvd for synatic without dvd-driver |
| 23:55.31 | abrotman | apt-cdrom |
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