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| 00:00.08 | nodus | boxatom: yes, but the usb stick you put debian on to install, do you still have it? |
| 00:00.16 | boxatom | yes |
| 00:00.27 | nodus | boxatom: does it now have grub installed on it rather than the standard installer menu? |
| 00:00.34 | boxatom | its a dvd 1, stable |
| 00:00.47 | C1z | Please Can you help me? |
| 00:00.52 | boxatom | no, it loads the installer |
| 00:00.58 | WednesdayFin | hope you don't shit up your grub boxatom |
| 00:01.04 | C1z | yes |
| 00:01.09 | nodus | boxatom: Shrug, i would reinstall grub to the hdd |
| 00:01.11 | WednesdayFin | i did one time, recovery was hell |
| 00:01.22 | julius_ | C1z, run "dmesg" in a console window |
| 00:01.27 | boxatom | i thing im in hell |
| 00:01.30 | boxatom | think :D |
| 00:01.33 | nodus | WednesdayFin: sshhh you will scare the newbies |
| 00:01.36 | WednesdayFin | running grub in recovery mode might help |
| 00:01.39 | julius_ | C1z, look at the last few lines...does it refer to mount? |
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| 00:02.00 | WednesdayFin | it should recognize the partitions and what's inside them |
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| 00:04.05 | WednesdayFin | my laptop battery ran empty during a debian installation, shat up grub and it didn't recognize any partitions, a new installer booted from usb fixed everything |
| 00:04.08 | nodus | boxatom: you encrypted something, was it your home dir or a partition? if a partition, what does your layout look like |
| 00:04.13 | C1z | To /dev/sda1 on /mnt/Storage not refer mount... |
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| 00:04.57 | WednesdayFin | boxatom, if the grub is able to recognize an encrypted partition it should be possible to mount it |
| 00:05.14 | nodus | C1z: you need to stop being lazy and type more or cut and paste. 2 or 3 words does not give us enough information. |
| 00:05.27 | nodus | C1z: you need to type whole exact lines with no typos |
| 00:05.30 | WednesdayFin | and decrypt it with your password |
| 00:05.42 | nodus | WednesdayFin: but you need a unencrypted /boot |
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| 00:06.14 | WednesdayFin | a fresh grub from a usb could handle it i recon |
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| 00:06.25 | boxatom | let me get a screenshot |
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| 00:07.05 | C1z | This is log http://pastebin.com/pVxSyY6A |
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| 00:07.31 | queso | On Debian Wheezy with a Brother printer. When I print from a browser, the job fails and CUPS says "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftops failed" and the printer becomes unusable. This has happened before but I can't remember what I did to get the printer working again. I know not to print from a browser because of the bug that causes this. But my wife forgot. So the printer is stuck. I rebooted, restarted the printer, etc., nothing ... |
| 00:07.37 | queso | ... seems to make it so I can print again. I realize the bug has been fixed upstream and I don't need to fix the issue locally. But what do I need to do to make it so my printer works again when I don't print from the browser? |
| 00:07.38 | WednesdayFin | i'd say mount the encrypted root with grub from stick and you should be able to get it working |
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| 00:07.59 | WednesdayFin | *root |
| 00:07.59 | C1z | of "dmesg" |
| 00:08.17 | nodus | C1z: can you do the same thing, but with the command you are using to mount? |
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| 00:09.40 | nodus | C1z: i do not see anything in this that looks like "/mnt/Storage not refer mount" |
| 00:09.43 | C1z | nodus: I wanted to mount automatically on etc/fstab |
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| 00:10.08 | nodus | does it work in the command line now? |
| 00:10.16 | nodus | c1z |
| 00:10.28 | Atm0spher1c | nodus: It works, but now the error is - missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) |
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| 00:10.57 | nodus | well someone else will have to pick this up, or i will be back after work |
| 00:10.59 | C1z | yes but I don't see the file on mint/Storage |
| 00:11.08 | C1z | mnt* |
| 00:11.08 | nodus | good luck everyone |
| 00:11.08 | WednesdayFin | it's 3 am in here |
| 00:11.13 | Atm0spher1c | thanks |
| 00:11.15 | WednesdayFin | gonna hit the bunk |
| 00:11.39 | Beret- | how can I remove dotfiles but not .dotfolders? If I do rm .* it will remove everything right? |
| 00:12.51 | phy1729 | Beret-: depends on the shell |
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| 00:13.05 | phy1729 | zsh is .*(.) with extended glob |
| 00:13.13 | at0m | Beret-: use find |
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| 00:13.27 | phy1729 | there's also find . -name '.*' -type f -delete |
| 00:13.40 | phy1729 | should -print first to verify it's right |
| 00:14.04 | C1z | nodus: yes but I don't see the file on /mnt/Storage |
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| 00:15.26 | Beret- | well, if I do "rm .*" it only removes dotfiles and not dotfolders because I need "rm -rf" for folders |
| 00:15.45 | abrotman | Beret-: you could use find instead |
| 00:15.54 | Beret- | yea its more clean |
| 00:15.58 | boxatom | nodus: WednesdayFin : Here are 3 images http://imgur.com/cbBuzhW,q9pEefo,aKF1Iy6#0 |
| 00:16.02 | abrotman | phy1729: you probably want a maxdepth on that |
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| 00:16.51 | ryouma | Beret-: depending on your shell there might be a way to specify file only. i think zsh can do it, dunno if bash can. |
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| 00:17.46 | WednesdayFin | boxatom, i'm too tired to think properly but your system seems to recognize the debian installation properly |
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| 00:18.20 | WednesdayFin | try to mount it as boot somehow if you want to boot to it every time |
| 00:18.25 | boxatom | yes, its just the gap loading itâ¦. |
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| 00:18.59 | WednesdayFin | i'm not the one to ask really, i have to access my windows 7 installation through two bootloaders |
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| 00:19.47 | boxatom | i might just solder the super grub usb to the computer |
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| 00:21.58 | asterismo | hi ppl |
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| 00:22.24 | asterismo | is there any free and opensource web engine like imgur for sharing screenshots and photos in debian repos? |
| 00:22.43 | WednesdayFin | boxatom, good luck |
| 00:22.49 | boxatom | thank you :) |
| 00:22.58 | WednesdayFin | np |
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| 00:23.51 | WednesdayFin | asterismo, buy shell with home page space, share through simple home page |
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| 00:24.31 | WednesdayFin | billions of easy-to-use js/html/css media share implementations |
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| 00:25.00 | WednesdayFin | or if you have static ip, share them from a local server |
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| 00:25.15 | abrotman | asterismo: None that I know of |
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| 00:25.39 | asterismo | like a pastebin of images |
| 00:25.43 | asterismo | i need that |
| 00:25.51 | abrotman | I know what you mean |
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| 00:25.57 | abrotman | like picpaste.com |
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| 00:58.54 | Kniaz | hi. In debian 7 when I type apt-get update I get this http://apaste.info/Rqz |
| 00:59.08 | nodus | boxatom: it does seem like you just need to run grub-install /dev/sda |
| 00:59.37 | boxatom | ive tryed that :( |
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| 01:05.22 | Devastator | hehe |
| 01:06.10 | boxatom | http://imgur.com/qFsRX0d im suspecting its the MBR⦠|
| 01:06.26 | mdlioth | mkdir $date(+%s) && cd $date(+%s) --- way to make that work without relying on something that changes less frequently than seconds? |
| 01:07.50 | nodus | boxatom: yeah, something is pear shaped there. uefi is off right? |
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| 01:08.28 | boxatom | there are no uefi options on my computer |
| 01:08.39 | boxatom | just secure boot and its off |
| 01:08.40 | Brigo | boxatom, then the MBR |
| 01:08.43 | mdlioth | What did you do before this happened? |
| 01:09.08 | Brigo | hopefully |
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| 01:10.28 | boxatom | I have no clue what to doâ¦. and the thing is that other linux distros like fedora and opensuse did work |
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| 01:10.48 | Brigo | boxatom, from that disk? |
| 01:11.08 | mdlioth | so you've been trying out different distros and went through the debian install from a CD and ended with that? |
| 01:11.13 | boxatom | yes |
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| 01:11.34 | Madsy | I'm trying to get user pages to work with apache2. Other than enabling the userdir module, make a public_html directory and check the directory and file permissions, what do I have to di? |
| 01:11.40 | boxatom | well yes, but from usb⦠|
| 01:11.46 | mdlioth | Can you still boot from your USB w/ debian? |
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| 01:11.59 | Madsy | I'm getting 403 forbidden when I access host/~myuser/ but I have no clue why |
| 01:12.12 | boxatom | i can boot to debian using super grub |
| 01:12.46 | Brigo | Madsy, ask in #httpd |
| 01:12.56 | mdlioth | To make your USB you used cp command debian.iso /dev/sdX? |
| 01:13.07 | WednesdayFin | Madsy, set folder permissions with sudo chmod |
| 01:13.21 | boxatom | no, i created it on windows with rufus |
| 01:13.57 | mdlioth | it should work with rufus anyways, although I prefer to just copy the hybrid ISO to the USB because no program is required for debian |
| 01:13.59 | Madsy | WednesdayFin: The folder permissions are correct. 755 for all user homes and same for public_html |
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| 01:14.34 | WednesdayFin | Madsy, is the server itself configured too closed? |
| 01:14.34 | Madsy | Just to be sure I set public_html's group to www-data |
| 01:14.53 | WednesdayFin | check apache firewall |
| 01:15.03 | mdlioth | @boxatom: did you have other OSes that you wanted to preserve / got messed up? If not: reinstall debian and make sure you select a good drive for your MBR |
| 01:15.06 | Madsy | WednesdayFin: Well, do I have to use a2ensite to enable each user's home sites? |
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| 01:15.21 | boxatom | I used complete disk space for debian⦠|
| 01:15.34 | mdlioth | no other disks? |
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| 01:15.47 | boxatom | its a laptop with only one disk |
| 01:15.59 | mdlioth | Like if you accidentally chose USB to write your MBR then it won't boot without the USB |
| 01:16.06 | WednesdayFin | Madsy, i'm out of my depth from here, go to http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-web-server-firewall-tutorial/ |
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| 01:16.55 | boxatom | i made sure that it was sda in the last reinstall |
| 01:17.05 | mdlioth | I see |
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| 01:18.16 | Madsy | WednesdayFin: Yeah it's not a firewall issue. But thanks. |
| 01:18.38 | WednesdayFin | Madsy, hope you get it working |
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| 01:18.40 | mdlioth | i'd recommend using a live CD or another computer and use cp debian.iso /dev/sdX and see if it installed correctly, programs that handle your USB install like that have been known to change stuff. |
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| 01:18.53 | boxatom | should i run something like this > # grub-install /dev/hda |
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| 01:19.21 | mdlioth | update-grub should locate your OS and list it if its bootable |
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| 01:20.31 | mdlioth | speaking of which is there a syntax to exclude certain locations from grub's nosey autosearching? |
| 01:20.53 | boxatom | can that live cd be in USB? |
| 01:21.18 | boxatom | no⦠i guess⦠i need to go to walgreens and buy cdrâs |
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| 01:21.25 | mdlioth | no it can be USB |
| 01:21.25 | mdlioth | for sure |
| 01:21.38 | mdlioth | some OS you can load entirely in memory on a USB, and then format that same USB with debian |
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| 01:22.03 | mdlioth | er, by format, I mean copy debian to the USB using cp |
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| 01:23.50 | mdlioth | you could always install one of the linux OS that you know work first |
| 01:24.09 | mdlioth | then make the debian iso the natural way and see if the graphical install gives you the same problem |
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| 01:26.34 | boxatom | how is it the natrual way? linux? |
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| 01:27.14 | dvs | boxatom: He means onto a hard drive. |
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| 01:27.53 | mdlioth | i guess i also find it more natural to copy the debian.iso of your choice with cp than to use rufus in windows |
| 01:28.57 | mdlioth | And with that i'll retreat to my special heat lamp and treated iced tea |
| 01:29.32 | boxatom | ok thanks and enjoy that :D |
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| 01:30.20 | mdlioth | np i ask a bunch of questions and can never help so im glad |
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| 01:35.18 | abrotman | Yeah, works fin ehere |
| 01:35.28 | abrotman | keyboard, not so much |
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| 01:58.57 | mdlioth | My tty1 fonts are horrendously small. Should I install a framebuffer? The dpkg-reconfigure console-setup seems to suggest this as a course of action for choosing larger fonts. But from what I can tell on debian, using that tool isn't changing anything. |
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| 02:00.40 | Chocolate_Chip | Anyone here? |
| 02:00.54 | Chocolate_Chip | I am trying to make a bash sceript, and onw of the commands is apt-get install lxde |
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| 02:01.14 | Chocolate_Chip | And I want to install lxde without installing clipit, dillo, and wicd |
| 02:01.20 | bazhang | ,v lxde |
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| 02:01.21 | judd | Package: lxde on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.5.0-4; wheezy: 4+nmu1; sid: 6; jessie: 6; stretch: 6 |
| 02:01.52 | Chocolate_Chip | Those are the only ones I wish to ommit. The only command I found to do it is --no-install-recommend |
| 02:02.21 | Chocolate_Chip | But I want the recommended packages to be installed. I just don't want those 3 to be |
| 02:02.44 | mdlioth | Makes sense Chocolate. |
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| 02:03.13 | Chocolate_Chip | Is there a command for that? |
| 02:04.01 | mdlioth | Chocolate: A thought from a forum: procede at own risk I havent done this |
| 02:04.02 | mdlioth | After you install the package with the --ignore-depends option, go and edit the /var/lib/dpkg/status file, and remove whatever dependency you think is not needed. Just be very careful. In order a dep. to be required, it is more than likely to BE required |
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| 02:04.20 | mdlioth | you may be able to edit the recommends from that location too |
| 02:04.31 | mdlioth | if you install with ignore-depends and no recommendations |
| 02:05.09 | mdlioth | probably possible to script, maybe annoying, there is probably a better answer |
| 02:05.42 | mdlioth | another thought Chocolate |
| 02:05.51 | Chocolate_Chip | It's a bash script tho |
| 02:05.53 | mdlioth | It may be possible to create dummy packages with your script, so it doesn't install recommends |
| 02:05.58 | Chocolate_Chip | eh |
| 02:06.03 | mdlioth | It depends on how it treats dummy packages with recommends |
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| 02:09.56 | holiday | I'm trying to install a font. I unpacked the tarball and move it to /usr/share/fonts/. Then, I did "mkfntdir" then I ran "fc cache -fv." It says that the new font was found, but it isn't showing up in any of my applications. Anyone know why? |
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| 02:10.14 | mdlioth | Hey chocolate: https://askubuntu.com/questions/75895/how-to-forbid-a-specific-package-to-be-installed |
| 02:10.36 | mdlioth | your script could possibly create those entries then update the environment and do what you want |
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| 02:12.33 | holiday | Nevermind, I figured it out. |
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| 02:12.50 | mdlioth | What was the solution Holiday? |
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| 02:19.22 | k_sze | We have some NFS shares between a wheezy machine and a jessie machine. |
| 02:19.40 | k_sze | Sometimes the uid and gid on certain files is completely out of whack. |
| 02:20.07 | k_sze | What's the proper way to fix it? |
| 02:22.26 | k_sze | Like, most of the files would have the uid and gid mapped correctly most of the time. |
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| 02:22.35 | k_sze | And then sometimes, the same files get the 4294967294 uid and gid. |
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| 02:26.27 | cafuego | k_sze: A single authoritative source of account info, I guess. |
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| 02:51.28 | Guest68723 | hello |
| 02:51.40 | Guest68723 | anyone know why linux hates python3 so much? |
| 02:51.55 | Guest68723 | i switched from windows to linux becasue I thought it was supposed to make more sense |
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| 02:56.41 | koawla | what do you mean Guest68723, Python is an interpreted programming language... |
| 02:57.22 | Guest68723 | i know, i just spent 2 days getting pygame to work on python3, and am having a real rough time trying to get neurolab installedo n python3 |
| 02:57.36 | Guest68723 | python 2.X never screws me like python 3 does |
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| 02:59.16 | mdlioth | Is there an easy way to set the TTY font in debian without a FB? I want a larger font, but the documentation regarding FB is taking me all over the place. |
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| 03:05.37 | somiaj | mdlioth: what video card do you use? do you also use xorg? kms is more common on lots of free drivers than framebuffers thesedays |
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| 03:08.05 | somiaj | mdlioth: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition though the debian kernel may already have what it needs ready, check out the Grub 2 and the VGA parameter in this. I belive this is what you need on jessie |
| 03:08.45 | mdlioth | somiaj i'm using the open sourse drivers and im using xorg because i run i3wm |
| 03:08.54 | mdlioth | AMD HD radeon 6950 |
| 03:09.02 | somiaj | mdlioth: us the radeon or fglrx drivers? |
| 03:09.23 | mdlioth | the fglrx is prop right im using the radeon ones that come with jessie |
| 03:09.37 | mdlioth | or at least in the contrib non-free repo |
| 03:09.43 | somiaj | mdlioth: the radeon drivers use a kernel modules that uses kms and you can adjust the console resolution via the kms (not that I have done this, haven't played with it in years) |
| 03:10.05 | mdlioth | my console resolution has been fine ever seen switching to the open source drivers |
| 03:10.08 | somiaj | mdlioth: well try just adding thsoe options I pointed at to /etc/default/grub, if that doesn't work look up how to use kms to set console resolution. |
| 03:10.12 | mdlioth | the font is so small though! |
| 03:10.20 | somiaj | yea that is because kms I dont' think deafults to 800x600 |
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| 03:10.47 | somiaj | I think the font is a mater of resolution, so you want to lower the resolution? |
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| 03:11.23 | mdlioth | I suppose I could, but I was under the impression that something like vesafb would allow me to set my fonts and keep resolution |
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| 03:13.35 | somiaj | mdlioth: look at /etc/default/console-setup |
| 03:14.26 | somiaj | You may awnt to change the font from 'Fixed' to 'Terminus', as that is the one I see mentioned it has various sizes |
| 03:14.55 | somiaj | mdlioth: seems dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-setup will give you options too |
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| 03:21.06 | mdlioth | I already ran dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, but it didnt change much as far as I could tell |
| 03:22.00 | mdlioth | and I did try to switch to terminus |
| 03:22.10 | somiaj | make sure you have the priority turned up, seems you can change the fontsize that way |
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| 03:22.24 | mdlioth | Hmmm how do I do that? |
| 03:22.30 | somiaj | look at the command I pasted |
| 03:22.42 | mdlioth | I'm thinking about making it just startx on login and ignoring tty...but i may need it at some time and i hate squinting |
| 03:22.43 | mdlioth | ill take a look |
| 03:23.05 | mdlioth | ill run it with the -plow option to see what happens |
| 03:24.16 | mdlioth | the fonts that say framebuffer only |
| 03:24.20 | mdlioth | they seem to be the larger fonts |
| 03:24.21 | mdlioth | lol |
| 03:24.51 | somiaj | mdlioth: it worked for me, I ran the command in a console and it changed the fonts, you may havae to reboot for it to effect all the consoles |
| 03:25.04 | mdlioth | even the framebuffer ones? |
| 03:25.10 | mdlioth | ill change to terminus 16x32 and reboot |
| 03:25.13 | mdlioth | ill brb |
| 03:25.56 | somiaj | mdlioth: yea framebuffer is actually quite common, basically it is supplied by the 'kms' video driver you are using |
| 03:26.22 | somiaj | !kms |
| 03:26.22 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
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| 03:26.58 | mdlioth_ | Didn't change the font |
| 03:27.47 | somiaj | well I'm using the nvidia non-free drivers, I thought kms allowed changing the console font. You didn't disable modsetting did you? |
| 03:28.03 | mdlioth_ | nope, it says it should be enabled from sid on |
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| 03:28.10 | mdlioth_ | i have a modesetting.conf |
| 03:28.15 | mdlioth_ | but it seems good |
| 03:28.39 | mdlioth_ | i know for a fact im buying a nvidia card next time -.- |
| 03:29.34 | somiaj | mdlioth: do you have the package kdb installed? |
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| 03:29.41 | somiaj | sorr kbd |
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| 03:35.48 | mdlioth_ | ill check |
| 03:36.13 | mdlioth_ | Yep |
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| 03:38.52 | mdlioth_ | somiaj: Wow, so running dpkg-reconfigure console-setup -- i can change a tty console from the console, but not from x? |
| 03:39.02 | ryouma | mdlioth_: totally probably a clueless answer, but i have /etc/default/grub GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 |
| 03:39.07 | somiaj | mdlioth_: that is what I said, I had the same experince. |
| 03:39.16 | somiaj | ryouma: that sets the resolution, not fontsize |
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| 03:39.31 | ryouma | somiaj: for me it changed font back to the normal good size |
| 03:39.38 | ryouma | i.e. back to what it was on wheezy |
| 03:39.50 | ryouma | (which i am still using, but this is from when i tried to upgrade) |
| 03:39.58 | somiaj | yea well fonts will look bigger, but he wanted to keep his resolution but have bigger fonts. |
| 03:40.00 | mdlioth_ | also, I've tried a similar solution on an earlier install of debian, editing the grub files didnt seem to matter |
| 03:40.05 | ryouma | somiaj: ok |
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| 03:40.13 | ryouma | somiaj: this would only affect grub? |
| 03:40.29 | mdlioth_ | it would effect tty1- whatever |
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| 03:40.48 | somiaj | with kms there is a lot more you can do in consoles than just text. I think you have a framebuffer of sorts and could say watch a video in a console |
| 03:40.56 | ryouma | ok, so no connection to x still, but you want high res and larger fonts for hte console, it sounds like. carry on :) |
| 03:41.04 | somiaj | ryouma: there is another option you can add to have the linux console keep the resolution you pick |
| 03:41.27 | ryouma | somiaj: what do you mean? does it not stick? |
| 03:41.29 | somiaj | ryouma: you can also put fancy backgrounds in your consoles if you wanted, instead of just a black background. |
| 03:41.44 | mdlioth_ | I use x, it's not a big deal. I may be able to run a script on tty start to change font |
| 03:41.47 | somiaj | I'm unsure if it sticks by dfault, or if that option just keeps other thigns from changing it later on. |
| 03:42.38 | somiaj | ryouma: being able to customize consoles is just nifty, I stoped doing it when I decided i liked to use xterms more than consoles. so now isntead of switching consoles alot I have piles of xterms open |
| 03:43.50 | ryouma | somiaj: ah. for me console is for when the os screws up. all i want is: no blinking (haven't fixed that), large fonts, and keys working more or less like a regular terminal (haven't fixed that either but not as critical as blinking) |
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| 03:44.21 | somiaj | ryouma: I don't boot into a dsiplay manager still, but find myself in x |
| 03:44.35 | somiaj | ryouma: though I wish I had kms when I was using consoles a lot, the no lag between the xorg and console switch is nice |
| 03:45.23 | ryouma | i'd rather have the basics fixed than all the fancy features |
| 03:45.29 | mdlioth | running console-setup worked and persisted after reboot - but only when done from whatever tty console you want to adjust. |
| 03:45.45 | mdlioth | Maybe that's obvious, but I had been trying to run it from xterm and that didn't change the consoles. |
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| 04:12.03 | Pwkay | morning |
| 04:13.14 | Pwkay | still have problem with proprietary nvidia driver - de crashes at lauch and cant login into root cuz of "login incorrect" |
| 04:13.23 | Pwkay | also cant login into safe mode |
| 04:13.28 | Pwkay | any ideas? |
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| 04:14.26 | Pwkay | i still can reinstall system, i think, but... no other ways to fix it without that hardcore method? |
| 04:14.58 | cafuego | Fix one problem at a time. |
| 04:15.05 | cafuego | 1: Set a new root password. |
| 04:15.13 | Pwkay | how? |
| 04:15.16 | cafuego | 2: test that you can login with the new root password. |
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| 04:15.34 | Pwkay | i have no sudo packet |
| 04:15.36 | cafuego | http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html |
| 04:16.00 | cafuego | You have access to the hardware, thus you can reset anything. |
| 04:16.03 | svetlana | Ooh. (packet --> package, btw.) |
| 04:16.20 | Pwkay | @svetlana, yes, sorry :c |
| 04:16.38 | Pwkay | @cafuego, thnx, i ll try |
| 04:16.43 | svetlana | np. I did this process once, it's not too bad, just ask if you have questions. |
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| 04:17.10 | cafuego | has done it lots of times - when a sysadmin left somewhere and didn't document anything... |
| 04:17.50 | cafuego | just keep in mind that the 'reboot' command at the end will probably not reboot the machine (because no init running) |
| 04:18.07 | cafuego | You can safely remount all partitions read-only and then hit the reset button |
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| 04:19.17 | Pwkay | emmmh.... what i can do, if i have no end button? ._. |
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| 04:21.17 | Pwkay | and enter makes me to go to the next line - not boot |
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| 04:22.54 | cafuego | Of you have no end button you can use arrow keys to go to the end of the line |
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| 04:23.20 | Pwkay | it says me to use f10 to boot |
| 04:23.44 | Pwkay | im booted. And im again on broken de |
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| 04:24.54 | Pwkay | and it still ask me about password |
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| 04:26.07 | cafuego | then you didn't boot with init=/bin/sh |
| 04:26.21 | Pwkay | im typed it |
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| 04:27.05 | cafuego | at the end of the kernel line? |
| 04:27.10 | Pwkay | yes |
| 04:27.27 | Pwkay | wait. there was an error, but now im restarted and its booted without this message |
| 04:27.29 | boxatom | does debian live include the firmware? |
| 04:27.34 | Pwkay | maybe i did smthing wrong |
| 04:27.37 | Pwkay | i ll try again |
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| 04:28.12 | Pwkay | @boxatom, just use netinstaller, there are broken grub in live sometimes |
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| 04:28.37 | boxatom | just tryied the netinstallerâ¦. no boot! |
| 04:29.07 | boxatom | I installed fedora with its live⦠yes boot⦠|
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| 04:29.14 | Pwkay | oh my... |
| 04:29.25 | Pwkay | its still ask me about password |
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| 04:30.01 | Pwkay | im typed that at the end of line, then pressed f10 to boot, then typed mount, but its still ask me about password |
| 04:30.08 | Pwkay | any ideas? |
| 04:30.24 | AlexLikeRock | send me a tutorial to FORDWARE internet from my pc to ACCES POINT |
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| 04:31.40 | boxatom | whats the difference between bt-hybrid and iso-hybrid? |
| 04:31.55 | Pwkay | bt is torrent download |
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| 04:32.02 | Pwkay | and iso is direct |
| 04:32.09 | boxatom | oh :D |
| 04:32.12 | Pwkay | only difference is iso download method |
| 04:32.22 | boxatom | ok, ill checksum that :D |
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| 04:35.48 | Pwkay | its doesnt work for me. Any ideas? |
| 04:35.51 | AlexLikeRock | send me a tutorial to FORDWARE internet from my pc to ACCES POINT |
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| 04:36.33 | Pwkay | or only reinstall can help? |
| 04:36.42 | Pwkay | in that situation |
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| 04:40.35 | jetblackcloud | anyone else having issues with jessie and bios compat mode on uefi machine? |
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| 04:41.35 | AlexLikeRock | help |
| 04:41.39 | AlexLikeRock | hoe to fordware internet |
| 04:41.41 | AlexLikeRock | ? |
| 04:42.04 | Pwkay | @jetblackcloud, which issue? |
| 04:42.38 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: basically, grub locks |
| 04:42.42 | Pwkay | if you about "bios cant see debian" - just use netinstaller, livecd is broken |
| 04:42.53 | jetblackcloud | feels like it tries to hhok efi even when in compat mode |
| 04:43.02 | jetblackcloud | tried both |
| 04:43.07 | jetblackcloud | wheezy still works fine |
| 04:43.09 | Pwkay | compat mode... you about legacy or what? |
| 04:43.13 | jetblackcloud | yes |
| 04:43.15 | jetblackcloud | legacy |
| 04:43.24 | Pwkay | just use netinstaller |
| 04:43.27 | jetblackcloud | i did |
| 04:43.30 | jetblackcloud | not working |
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| 04:43.42 | jetblackcloud | has there been a change in the last few days? |
| 04:43.44 | Pwkay | hm... maybe you have fast boot ON? |
| 04:43.50 | jetblackcloud | fast boot is off |
| 04:44.04 | jetblackcloud | and as i said, wheezy distros work absolutely fine |
| 04:44.17 | jetblackcloud | plus, the jessie installers i have work fine in vm for bios mode |
| 04:44.19 | Pwkay | no ideas. Netinstaller works fine for me, but livecd's grub is broken |
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| 04:44.31 | jetblackcloud | just becomes an issue when run from a mahcine with uefi in legacy mode |
| 04:44.42 | jetblackcloud | even if trying to install entirely to a usb stick |
| 04:44.43 | Pwkay | do you use nonfree netinstaller? |
| 04:44.48 | jetblackcloud | no |
| 04:44.53 | jetblackcloud | standard installer |
| 04:44.55 | Pwkay | just try it |
| 04:44.58 | jetblackcloud | should i try nonfree? |
| 04:44.59 | jetblackcloud | ok |
| 04:45.24 | Pwkay | maybe its will help you, cuz helped me :D |
| 04:45.48 | Pwkay | okay. I ll w8 2 more hours for someone, who can help and then reinstall system cuz out of ideas |
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| 04:46.23 | jetblackcloud | was trying to narrow down |
| 04:46.31 | jetblackcloud | unfortuantely got rid of the last wheezy install |
| 04:46.44 | jetblackcloud | trying to determine if it is debian installer or grub version issue |
| 04:47.00 | Pwkay | i think, it is |
| 04:49.01 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: if you provide more details i'll try to help you |
| 04:49.32 | jetblackcloud | the versions of grub between jessie and wheezy are different, so i'm assuming grub. |
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| 04:51.23 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: any error message? is your problem that the installer will not boot, or that the installed system will not boot? |
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| 04:52.06 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: installefd system |
| 04:52.11 | jetblackcloud | no error messages usually |
| 04:52.16 | jetblackcloud | either a blank screen |
| 04:52.25 | jetblackcloud | a lock at "grub" in black |
| 04:52.30 | jetblackcloud | or a message about a file missing |
| 04:52.38 | Pwkay | @j,cnaught, im installed debian from nonfree netinstaller one day ago, after 2 days of brain****, cuz of bug in livecd. It works fine, but i got glitches in games (looks like problem with vsync) and then installed proprietary nvidia driver |
| 04:52.55 | Pwkay | rebooter. Its login to grub, login to debian and de crashes at lauch |
| 04:52.59 | Pwkay | *d |
| 04:53.06 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: that message about the file missing would help, did you search the web for it? |
| 04:53.13 | jetblackcloud | i did |
| 04:53.14 | jetblackcloud | nothing |
| 04:53.22 | Pwkay | im tries http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html |
| 04:53.34 | jetblackcloud | that only happened once though |
| 04:53.37 | Pwkay | cuz i cant login to my root |
| 04:53.48 | jetblackcloud | so, may have been a fluke with a bad usb drive |
| 04:53.53 | Pwkay | i type su, then my password - and it says "login incorrect" |
| 04:53.54 | jetblackcloud | that just didn't take |
| 04:54.00 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: where are you trying to log into root? On the text mode virtual console? |
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| 04:54.12 | Pwkay | from ctrl+alt+f1 |
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| 04:54.19 | Pwkay | and i cant for no reson |
| 04:54.21 | jetblackcloud | every other time, either locked at black screen or locked at "grub" with blinking cursor. |
| 04:54.39 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: jetblackcloud: since you're both typing at the same time it will be easier to follow both of you if you write longer lines (press enter less often :) |
| 04:54.39 | Pwkay | tryed recipe from link, but its not work - it still ask me about password |
| 04:54.42 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: wheezy still works fine. |
| 04:55.09 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: my apologies. i'll pause. |
| 04:55.17 | Pwkay | ok :I |
| 04:55.24 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: if you are at a login prompt, the username is root not su, did you try that? |
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| 04:56.07 | Pwkay | emmh... what you said again? my english isnt perfect :c |
| 04:56.34 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: no need to pause, just finishing your thought before you start a new line makes you a lot easier to follow :) |
| 04:56.47 | Pwkay | im right now on text mode, logined as user |
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| 04:57.20 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: okay, if you go to tty2 with ctrl+alt+f2, can you log in as root there, with the username root? |
| 04:58.05 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: is that file missing error that you searched about still in your browser history? if you can find it, maybe someone here knows about it |
| 04:58.29 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: sorry. memory got a bit fuzzy. found the name of the missing file. but nothing about it from anew install. grub complains about missing "normal.mod." but, like i said, that was an anamoly. only happened once. every other time. black screen for "grub" + blink cursor after install. |
| 04:58.38 | jetblackcloud | if installed in efi mode, works fine. |
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| 04:59.04 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: debian boots without problem in efi mode? |
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| 04:59.37 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: yes. no problems at all. and here's the issue. i'm trying to work it with either a straight usb stick install or a usb key as /boot in bios mode. |
| 04:59.42 | Pwkay | >username root. What you means? |
| 05:00.15 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: for 7.8.x, this still works fine. for jessie, it's not working. |
| 05:00.18 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: instead of logging in as user and using "su -" to become root, log in as root directly |
| 05:00.27 | Pwkay | after type su, and then password, i still get "login incorrect" message |
| 05:00.29 | AlexLikeRock | help |
| 05:00.48 | Pwkay | how to login as root directly? :I (im noob, i said) |
| 05:01.27 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: where it says "login:" type "root" |
| 05:02.01 | Pwkay | YES |
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| 05:02.08 | Pwkay | im logined as root right now |
| 05:02.14 | Pwkay | what should i do next? |
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| 05:02.29 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: root is a user that you can log in as. su is a command that lets a regular user become root. |
| 05:02.51 | Pwkay | i ll remember |
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| 05:03.15 | Pwkay | im installed my 1st penguin 3 mounth ago and im nood, i said |
| 05:03.24 | Pwkay | so - what should i do right now? |
| 05:03.57 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: hard to say. you're issue was not getting su to work with your password. but you're logged in as root. |
| 05:04.07 | jetblackcloud | so, password is working. |
| 05:04.26 | Pwkay | i got it after installed proprietary nvidia driver |
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| 05:04.33 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: how did you install the nvidia drivers? Did you install the debian packages with apt-get? If you installed those packages and cannot get into graphical mode, you probably need to do the config stuff listed here: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration |
| 05:04.33 | Pwkay | so... maybe i need to remove it? |
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| 05:05.24 | Pwkay | emmh... one question - how to use this as text mode? |
| 05:05.44 | Pwkay | i have no sudo package, i said |
| 05:06.03 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: you don't need sudo if you are logged in as root. |
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| 05:06.09 | AlexLikeRock | help |
| 05:06.44 | Pwkay | so - im only needs to type nvidia-xconfig? |
| 05:06.57 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: those instructions say to install the nvidia-xconfig package, do that with "apt-get install nvidia-xconfig". Then after it installs, run nvidia-xconfig |
| 05:07.09 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell AlexLikeRock about ask |
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| 05:07.35 | Pwkay | but... isnt apt not need "apt-get" right now? ._. |
| 05:07.41 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, i need forware INTERNTE by Ethernet |
| 05:08.25 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: i don't know what you mean |
| 05:08.29 | AlexLikeRock | MODEM --> wifi -> PC -> eth --> Acces point --> cellphone |
| 05:08.53 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, rigth? :) |
| 05:08.59 | Pwkay | lol. Its download. I think, its strongly needs to being added as required packages |
| 05:09.05 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: sounds like fun |
| 05:09.34 | Pwkay | done. and im typed it. Now reboot? |
| 05:09.48 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: the manual instructions are pretty easy to follow. did nvidia-xconfig say it did stuff? |
| 05:11.10 | Pwkay | it said about creating file at the /etc/x11/ |
| 05:11.43 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, you can helpme ? |
| 05:11.43 | Pwkay | how i can restart system from text mode? |
| 05:11.49 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: so, have you heard of anyone else having the grub issues with jessie on efi systems that i have in regards to installing debian to a usb key or a hybrid install where root is on an encrypted partition and /boot is on a usb? i haven't found it yet and i've reproduced this issue on multiple machines with efi in legacy mode. |
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| 05:11.51 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: hey so i haven't tried to install jessie on a USB stick. Is the computer you're doing it on UEFI but you want the stick to work on BIOS computers? |
| 05:11.59 | Hedphelym | Pwkay: type reboot |
| 05:12.01 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: exactly |
| 05:12.17 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: and with wheezy, this is not an issue. still works fine. |
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| 05:12.24 | Pwkay | wait |
| 05:12.34 | Pwkay | how i can find, need i bumblebee or not? |
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| 05:12.58 | AlexLikeRock | help |
| 05:13.26 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: if you are using an optimus based system, just don't bother with nvidia drivers. do you actually need them? |
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| 05:13.46 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: hmmm... i don't really know a lot about UEFI to be honest. I just got my first UEFI computer a month ago and Jessie installed to it without issue. There must be a way to make something EFI and BIOS bootable. Have you tried with both DOS and GPT partition tables? |
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| 05:14.25 | Pwkay | i dont know, thats problem. There are laptop with 850M and intel video too |
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| 05:15.07 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: i havne't gotten into that so much since i'm trying to keep a system guide smooth. with wheezy, i could install uefi or bios legacy without issue. this only changed with jessie. and like you, i'm relatively new to uefi since, while having machines that have used it for years, the configurations i desired were not conducive to it. |
| 05:15.34 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: have you looked for way to do it online and are trying to narrow down options or something? What have you tried? What problem did you encounter? |
| 05:15.46 | jetblackcloud | it very much seems like something in jessie, whether grub or the debian installer, gets caught by uefi and works as if it is efi even if bios legacy mode is set. |
| 05:15.52 | jetblackcloud | wheezy didn't do that. |
| 05:16.02 | jetblackcloud | at least, not for any of the machines i installed it on. |
| 05:16.17 | Pwkay | google said, i have optimus. What should i do? |
| 05:16.20 | jmcnaught | jetblackcloud: are you having this problem with jessie on multiple machines? |
| 05:17.09 | jetblackcloud | yes |
| 05:17.22 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, i try this way |
| 05:17.22 | AlexLikeRock | http://i.stack.imgur.com/KCYl9.png |
| 05:17.32 | AlexLikeRock | a logn time ago, Work fine, |
| 05:17.33 | jetblackcloud | if it was just once machine, i'd assume anamoly. but it's happened on every uefi based machine i've tried |
| 05:17.39 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.44 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, |
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| 05:17.55 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: so i'm thinking bug |
| 05:18.02 | Pwkay | should i install bumblebee or bumblebee-install or primus? |
| 05:18.21 | jetblackcloud | jmcnaught: an to be fair, my configs are a little screwier. |
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| 05:18.27 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: there are instructions here: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 05:18.37 | Pwkay | yes-yes |
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| 05:19.44 | Pwkay | i found, thanks so much |
| 05:19.46 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, |
| 05:19.48 | AlexLikeRock | help |
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| 05:20.43 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: are you having an issue getting gui if you do a vanilla jessie install without nvidia drivers? |
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| 05:21.20 | jetblackcloud | are you getting gnome in standard 3d mode rather than fallback? |
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| 05:21.34 | Pwkay | no, i have n o issues |
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| 05:21.43 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: that looks like like NetworkManager. You could check NetworkManager related logs with "journalctl -b 0 -u NetworkManager" |
| 05:21.47 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: stick with the vanilla |
| 05:21.58 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: is there a reason you need the nvidia driver? |
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| 05:22.15 | Pwkay | i need it for games, cuz of glitches on free driver |
| 05:22.18 | jetblackcloud | optimus and bumblebee are screwy |
| 05:22.23 | jetblackcloud | ahh |
| 05:22.24 | jetblackcloud | ok |
| 05:22.34 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, "No journal files were found." |
| 05:22.56 | jetblackcloud | sorry, don't game with debian |
| 05:23.03 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: did you run it as root? |
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| 05:23.18 | AlexLikeRock | yes jmcnaught |
| 05:23.29 | AlexLikeRock | i don like systemd |
| 05:23.37 | AlexLikeRock | i like init-sys |
| 05:23.56 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: are you using something other than network manager to configure your networking? check the syslog if you don't use systemd? |
| 05:24.04 | AlexLikeRock | nop |
| 05:24.41 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: here's the thing. at least in the past, if you ran nvidia-xconfig, that can screw up nvidia drivers with optimus |
| 05:25.12 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: try the instructions on debian.org for installing nvidia and work with bumblebee from there |
| 05:25.22 | jetblackcloud | expect headacges |
| 05:25.23 | jetblackcloud | haha |
| 05:25.37 | AlexLikeRock | help |
| 05:25.40 | AlexLikeRock | any one |
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| 05:26.09 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: explain exactly what it is you are trying to do again |
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| 05:26.58 | AlexLikeRock | fordware internet by eth0 |
| 05:27.03 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, |
| 05:27.18 | Pwkay | what. Im logined to tty1 after reboot o_o |
| 05:27.23 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, |
| 05:27.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.42 | Pwkay | how to switch to graphic interface? |
| 05:27.54 | AlexLikeRock | TTY7 Pwkay |
| 05:27.57 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: is your cellphone possibly locked?' |
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| 05:28.05 | AlexLikeRock | nop jetblackcloud |
| 05:28.13 | Pwkay | type tty7 or what? |
| 05:28.15 | AlexLikeRock | i have a tablet too |
| 05:28.29 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: did you install a new os on your phone or tablet? |
| 05:28.32 | AlexLikeRock | Pwkay, CTRL+ALT+F7 |
| 05:28.39 | AlexLikeRock | no, jetblackcloud |
| 05:28.45 | Pwkay | it doesnt work |
| 05:28.55 | AlexLikeRock | Pwkay, or try "startx" |
| 05:29.07 | AlexLikeRock | or "startx twm" |
| 05:29.20 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: are you seeing a connect between your machine and your cell phone, but not netowkring afterwards? |
| 05:29.22 | Pwkay | oh |
| 05:29.26 | Pwkay | i found my problem |
| 05:29.56 | Pwkay | "dile /root/.Xauthority doesnt exist" |
| 05:29.59 | Pwkay | *file |
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| 05:31.15 | Pwkay | and "fatal server error - no screens found" |
| 05:31.19 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, i need fordware DHCP |
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| 05:31.32 | AlexLikeRock | Pwkay, do not try as "root" |
| 05:31.38 | Pwkay | ok |
| 05:31.39 | AlexLikeRock | try as normal user |
| 05:31.53 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: but, are you connectin to your phone/tablet? |
| 05:32.01 | Pwkay | but as user, it asks me about password |
| 05:32.49 | Pwkay | and then "login incorrect" again |
| 05:33.24 | Pwkay | any ideas? |
| 05:33.48 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: did you make a typo in your user password? login as root and try "passwd [yourusername]" without the brackets. then reset the password and try again. |
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| 05:34.02 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 05:34.11 | AlexLikeRock | hi ShapeShifter499 |
| 05:34.16 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, |
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| 05:34.19 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.34 | AlexLikeRock | not now |
| 05:34.44 | ShapeShifter499 | say I want to run a debian chroot on a linux system, would said chroot get access to fuse if it's installed on the non-chroot linux system? |
| 05:34.49 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.55 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, |
| 05:34.56 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: can you or can you not tether to your phone? |
| 05:34.58 | Pwkay | it syas me, there are no user with this name |
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| 05:35.22 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: so there's your issue. typo in user name? |
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| 05:35.26 | AlexLikeRock | i don not uunderstand jetblackcloud |
| 05:35.51 | ShapeShifter499 | I'd like to make a debian NAS chroot on my OpenWRT router but I don't want to have to compile/recompile fuse if OpenWRT already has it installed |
| 05:36.01 | Pwkay | nvm, changed right now |
| 05:36.02 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: you are trying to connect a machine to a phone to network. can you connect your machine to your phone? |
| 05:36.14 | AlexLikeRock | no jetblackcloud |
| 05:36.24 | AlexLikeRock | i can't |
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| 05:36.54 | AlexLikeRock | my celphone stock at "obtain IP " |
| 05:37.02 | Pwkay | im changed password |
| 05:37.08 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: i'm not talking about getting out on to the internet. are you able to connect your machine to your phone with either wifi or usb? |
| 05:37.20 | Pwkay | but tty1 still says me "login incorrect" when im type it |
| 05:37.34 | AlexLikeRock | yes jetblackcloud |
| 05:37.42 | Pwkay | tryed user and root passwords - noone works here |
| 05:37.53 | Pwkay | and root works only as "root" |
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| 05:38.27 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: the place to look for problems is in your log. if you are not using systemd, check your /var/log/syslog, put relevant sections on http://paste.debian.net/ so that others can help you understand errors |
| 05:38.32 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: just a hunch, but you probably have an android install on your machine that blocks tethering. have you tried installing an alternative android os like synogenmod? |
| 05:38.38 | jetblackcloud | cyanogenmod |
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| 05:39.12 | Pwkay | any ideas? |
| 05:39.44 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: i'm lost. if you create a user and password with the root account, should be able to login with it. |
| 05:39.51 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: it sounds to me like you are mistyping, or have the passwords confused. root and your regular user can have different passwords and you need to enter the appropriate one for each account |
| 05:39.55 | Hedphelym | when I connected one of my computers to internet through my phone - I had to disable the wired connection, then it worked. |
| 05:40.14 | Pwkay | no, im writed correct password |
| 05:40.29 | Pwkay | thats problem im got after install proprietary nvidia driver |
| 05:40.52 | Pwkay | i cant su and cant login as user cuz of "login incorrect" error |
| 05:40.53 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: are you at a login prompt? or a shell prompt? |
| 05:41.12 | jetblackcloud | installing nvidia drivers should not modify account logins |
| 05:41.26 | AlexLikeRock | jmcnaught, and jetblackcloud my LOG |
| 05:41.26 | AlexLikeRock | https://paste.debian.net/309904/ |
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| 05:42.26 | Pwkay | im at text view right now |
| 05:42.51 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, i don not understan you |
| 05:42.51 | Pwkay | i cant run de cuz of xauthority cant find file |
| 05:46.07 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: it looks like you installed dhcpd? did you configure it somehow? The screenshot you shared earlier looked like networkmanager, that wouldn't be using dhcpd. I don't know the details of how Networkmanager shares connections, I suspect it's using dnsmasq |
| 05:46.31 | AlexLikeRock | yes, |
| 05:46.34 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: otherwise the logs you provided don't have any other mention of the word "net", so keep looking |
| 05:46.54 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: we can't see what you see, you need to be more specific. |
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| 05:49.16 | AlexLikeRock | i need remove dhcp jmcnaught ? |
| 05:49.29 | jetblackcloud | dchpd |
| 05:49.45 | AlexLikeRock | this |
| 05:49.48 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 05:49.59 | jmcnaught | AlexLikeRock: you haven't really described your config very much, so i don't know what you've done, how you normally have it set up, so i don't know what you need to remove |
| 05:50.14 | Pwkay | i said. Im type startx, then it ask me about password. Im type my user password (also tryed root), it waits 3 secs and then tell me "login incorrect" |
| 05:50.17 | AlexLikeRock | mmmm |
| 05:50.18 | AlexLikeRock | :( |
| 05:50.19 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: have you tried the same thing from a live disk? |
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| 05:50.32 | AlexLikeRock | nop |
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| 05:50.56 | zhxk | hello, where to paste img? |
| 05:50.59 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: what does the screen say when you type in "startx"? |
| 05:51.04 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: grab a live image, boot from that, and see if you have same issue. |
| 05:51.38 | Pwkay | Password: |
| 05:51.41 | AlexLikeRock | of cource , not will be a same |
| 05:51.43 | AlexLikeRock | jetblackcloud, |
| 05:51.55 | AlexLikeRock | i have a isssue of configuration :( |
| 05:52.03 | AlexLikeRock | tankyou |
| 05:52.15 | AlexLikeRock | other day i will try more |
| 05:52.21 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.28 | AlexLikeRock | tanks jetblackcloud |
| 05:52.31 | jetblackcloud | AlexLikeRock: maybe. or it could be your phone. narrow down the surface. |
| 05:52.36 | jetblackcloud | no problem. |
| 05:52.53 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: where it says "login:" type a user name. then that user's password when it asks for the password. Then it will bring you to a shell prompt, which you should describe |
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| 05:53.41 | Pwkay | im tryed to type users password. Tryed root password. But it still say me "login incorrect" |
| 05:54.28 | nuclearnadal | hello.please help me, how do I change brightness in Nvidia X server? the X server control panel has no option to change brightness, if someone is using nvidia gfx card please tell me. http://i.imgur.com/dqJk3J7.png |
| 05:55.52 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: Right after it says "login incorrect", where it says "login: ", type in your username. Then it asks for the password. Is that what you are doing? |
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| 05:57.44 | Pwkay | right now it works, thanks. But it still says "xauth: file /home/username/.Xauthority does not exist" |
| 05:58.25 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: that happens when you try startx? |
| 05:58.37 | jetblackcloud | nuclearnadal: are you running jessie? with gnome? |
| 05:58.45 | nuclearnadal | yes |
| 05:59.13 | Pwkay | yes |
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| 05:59.16 | jetblackcloud | click in the upper right hand corner of your screen where the various icons are |
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| 05:59.28 | jetblackcloud | you will likely see s slider for birghtness |
| 05:59.40 | nuclearnadal | there is none, there is only for audio |
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| 06:01.14 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: the best place to check would be /var/log/Xorg.0.log. open it with "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look for lines with (EE) |
| 06:01.19 | jetblackcloud | nuclearnadal: do you need the nvidia driver? when i've installed it, depending on machine often causes more problems than solutions |
| 06:02.23 | jetblackcloud | machines i have with nvidia crad all work fine with jessie without need for nvidia driver |
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| 06:02.55 | Pwkay | (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module doesnt exist, 0) |
| 06:03.14 | Pwkay | (EE) no drivers available |
| 06:03.32 | Pwkay | (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) no screens found |
| 06:03.45 | Pwkay | thats what it says |
| 06:04.03 | jetblackcloud | i just stick with nouveu. even with errors, still works fine. but i don't game. |
| 06:04.09 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: so the driver cannot be found. how did you install the drivers? |
| 06:04.20 | Pwkay | from synaptic |
| 06:04.51 | Pwkay | then got this problem, cuz forgot about xorg settings |
| 06:05.25 | Pwkay | then download nvidia xconfig and bumblebee by text mode |
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| 06:05.33 | Pwkay | and primus too |
| 06:05.37 | Pwkay | restarted |
| 06:05.45 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: try that less command again with /etc/X11/xorg.conf (hit q to quit less) |
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| 06:05.55 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: running the xsettings with an nvidia optimus can fuck things up |
| 06:06.11 | Pwkay | which command? |
| 06:06.12 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: it did with wheezy |
| 06:06.21 | jetblackcloud | nvdia-xconfigi believe |
| 06:06.28 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| 06:06.30 | nuclearnadal | brb |
| 06:06.46 | Pwkay | by user or by root? |
| 06:07.03 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: regular user, we're just looking at tit |
| 06:07.07 | jmcnaught | oops |
| 06:07.38 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: if you have an optimus, setting up a standard xorg.conf can screw things up |
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| 06:08.41 | Pwkay | by user - ERROR - unable to write to directory '/etv/X11' |
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| 06:09.24 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: what command did you use? less shouldn't need to write. also it's /etc not /etv |
| 06:10.10 | Pwkay | *etc, yes. Im typed it wrong |
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| 06:11.41 | Pwkay | ok. Im logined and typed "nvidia-xconfig". It says "Using X configuration file: "etc/X11/Xorg.conf". And on next line - "ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11' |
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| 06:12.52 | BenNZ | Pwkay: you need to run that as the root user |
| 06:13.08 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: the wiki page with the instructions to use nvidia-xconfig say *not* to use it on an optimus system. I was asking you to look at the contents of that file with the less command. |
| 06:13.38 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: "As the nvidia driver is not autodetected by Xorg, a configuration file is required to be supplied. However, the configuration described below should not be applied to Nvidia Optimus systems; on such systems, the primary X display is driven by your Intel GPU, which is autodetected by X. See Bumblebee for more details on how to configure an Optimus system." https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 06:13.50 | BenNZ | oops didnt read optimus |
| 06:14.39 | jetblackcloud | https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 06:14.39 | Pwkay | oh... |
| 06:15.04 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: i recommend going back to the way it was before. You will need to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and and files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ The nouveau kernel module might be blacklisted by a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ which will need to be removed. Finally you will need to remove/purge any nvidia or bumblebee packages you have installed |
| 06:15.09 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: you likely have to undo the nvidia tweaks you did |
| 06:15.56 | BenNZ | Pwkay: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 06:15.57 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: be very careful not to remove anything you need. When removing packages it always shows a list, if it wants to remove more than what you asked for directly, look up or ask if it's safe to remove those packages |
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| 06:17.18 | Pwkay | so... i cant use proprietary driver? or what? |
| 06:17.42 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: you probably can, you just need to follow instructions more carefully |
| 06:18.03 | Pwkay | okie. What should i do, at 1st? |
| 06:18.20 | Pwkay | remove all i installed? or what? |
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| 06:19.08 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: but maybe you don't need to if they're this difficult for you. Not using the proprietary drivers is probably easiest but it's up to you. Good luck, i've gotta go to bed :) |
| 06:19.44 | Pwkay | goodnight. I cant, cuz opensource drivers have glitches in games and at video render |
| 06:20.05 | OUTsider | fixed your pw issue ? |
| 06:20.19 | Pwkay | which one? morning |
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| 06:20.42 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: restore your system to point where nvidia drivers were not installed |
| 06:20.47 | OUTsider | as they say 'unfucked' it ? :) |
| 06:20.49 | jetblackcloud | then follow instructions for optimus |
| 06:21.09 | Pwkay | ok... but i forgot, which drivers i installed |
| 06:21.11 | jmcnaught | Pwkay: maybe you just need to undo whatever nvidia-xconfig did, which was probably creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and then follow the instructions on the Bumblebee wiki page, reading them a couple of times first so you understand them |
| 06:21.35 | Pwkay | ok. How to undo this? |
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| 06:22.11 | jetblackcloud | Pwkay: we could only guess, which may mess up your machine more. |
| 06:22.19 | jetblackcloud | best bet, if you don't know, start over from scratch |
| 06:22.27 | OUTsider | he won't :P |
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| 06:22.40 | OUTsider | took him 3 days now until this state |
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| 06:24.03 | Pwkay | guys? |
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| 06:25.07 | OUTsider | I think nvidia-xconfig left the original .conf as backup or old file there |
| 06:25.24 | OUTsider | check your /etc/X11 folder to see if it has |
| 06:25.31 | Pwkay | how to do this? |
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| 06:26.26 | OUTsider | look in your /etc/X11 folder for files that look like xorg.conf, with an extra extension like 'old' or 'backup' etc |
| 06:26.38 | OUTsider | then compare the contents, you could use diff for that |
| 06:26.44 | Pwkay | i means "how to look here?" |
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| 06:26.59 | OUTsider | ls -l /etc/X11 perhaps ? |
| 06:27.08 | Pwkay | as root? |
| 06:27.10 | OUTsider | you are really new with debian eh ? :) |
| 06:27.19 | Pwkay | yes, i am |
| 06:27.22 | OUTsider | you got rootaccess now ? :) |
| 06:27.30 | Pwkay | yes |
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| 06:28.21 | OUTsider | I think you are allowed to read it without root privs |
| 06:28.52 | OUTsider | and in your case it might be safer to first LOOK at it to see if you can find the file before modding anything |
| 06:29.19 | Pwkay | there are xorg.conf and xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original |
| 06:29.26 | OUTsider | there you go :) |
| 06:29.55 | Pwkay | i seen it as root |
| 06:30.09 | OUTsider | try this (as root): mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.with-nvidia |
| 06:30.21 | OUTsider | then mv xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original xorg.conf |
| 06:30.29 | OUTsider | wait |
| 06:30.34 | OUTsider | then cp xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original xorg.conf |
| 06:30.47 | OUTsider | then you keep both versions as backup |
| 06:31.18 | OUTsider | and to learn what the changes are, diff xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original xorg.conf.with-nvidia |
| 06:31.45 | OUTsider | but thats just informational to learn stuff |
| 06:31.57 | Pwkay | tryed 1st command |
| 06:32.19 | Pwkay | and it says "cant make stat for sorg.conf - no such file or partition" |
| 06:32.26 | Pwkay | *xorg |
| 06:32.51 | OUTsider | ls -l xorg.conf |
| 06:32.58 | OUTsider | what does that say ? |
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| 06:33.11 | Pwkay | no such file or partition |
| 06:33.15 | OUTsider | (i gotta work in a few btw) |
| 06:33.19 | OUTsider | oh |
| 06:33.22 | OUTsider | cd /etc/X11 |
| 06:33.29 | OUTsider | you are probably not there yet :) |
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| 06:34.11 | Pwkay | done |
| 06:34.13 | Pwkay | and now? |
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| 06:34.38 | OUTsider | now cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.with-nvidia |
| 06:34.48 | OUTsider | to backup the current for just in case |
| 06:35.19 | Pwkay | done |
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| 06:35.27 | OUTsider | cp xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original xorg.conf |
| 06:36.03 | swatti | hi al |
| 06:36.05 | swatti | hi all |
| 06:36.10 | OUTsider | hi alone |
| 06:36.42 | OUTsider | got that Pwkay |
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| 06:37.09 | OUTsider | btw, if you type the first letters of a file, you can use TAB to scroll through the matching file names |
| 06:37.13 | swatti | nv sli problem? |
| 06:37.16 | OUTsider | not sure if you knew this :) |
| 06:37.31 | OUTsider | lol |
| 06:37.32 | Pwkay | cant make stat for "xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original"- no such file or partition |
| 06:38.02 | OUTsider | ls -l xorg.conf.nvidia-config-original |
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| 06:38.35 | Pwkay | no such file or partition |
| 06:38.49 | OUTsider | oh, you did that mv command I guess |
| 06:38.57 | Pwkay | yes |
| 06:39.14 | Pwkay | what should i do right now? |
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| 06:39.17 | OUTsider | well, ok, restart and see if it works |
| 06:39.46 | OUTsider | and the mv worked without error then I assume when you where in /etc/X11 |
| 06:40.11 | OUTsider | in that case both files will be the same |
| 06:40.19 | Pwkay | p, at tty1 again |
| 06:40.19 | OUTsider | shouldn't matter |
| 06:40.22 | Pwkay | *im |
| 06:40.39 | OUTsider | good, now see if you can get into Xserver |
| 06:40.43 | OUTsider | startx |
| 06:41.14 | OUTsider | anyways, gotta work now.. might be back later from work |
| 06:41.31 | OUTsider | xserver should now be without the nv driver |
| 06:41.40 | Pwkay | EE - fatal server error - no screens found |
| 06:41.59 | OUTsider | we will look at that later, take a break :) |
| 06:42.15 | Pwkay | okay... gl |
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| 06:47.44 | afidegnum | hello, please, how do I change permissions of this? Failed to load /etc/phpmyadmin/config-db.php Check group www-data has read access and open_basedir restrictions. |
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| 06:49.03 | afidegnum | it's like i need to change permissions of www-data |
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| 06:52.28 | somiaj | afidegnum: you don't need to change permisions of www-data, you most likely need to allow the group www-data certain permsions. look at man chmod and man chown |
| 06:52.37 | Kurvivor | Hello! i do not have mouse in my terminal, only keyboard. As a consequence, i cannot use X and wotk from console. How can i ensure XServer does not start at atartup? |
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| 06:53.00 | somiaj | !nodm |
| 06:53.01 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 06:53.09 | afidegnum | ok, i think it was authentication isssue |
| 06:53.27 | somiaj | Kurvivor: why not just uninstall x if you don't need it, but you can uninstall or disable your display managers as per that factiod |
| 06:53.55 | Kurvivor | well, uninstalling x is ok too. What are its packages? |
| 06:54.00 | somiaj | Kurvivor: also you can get window managers that work almost fully off of keybindings, that way you can kinda be in x if you like multiple xterms. (: |
| 06:54.22 | somiaj | Kurvivor: dpkg -l | grep xorg (note you may want to keep some of the xlibs in there as some console programs depend on them..the libs are small) |
| 06:54.33 | Kurvivor | I am in DSL, actually. I do not know keybindings there and i have no big desire to find out |
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| 06:55.04 | Kurvivor | i can always install emacs and get all the windows i need there |
| 06:55.13 | Kurvivor | after all ) |
| 06:55.42 | somiaj | Kurvivor: oh yea, I'm just listing options. Easiest will be disable the display manager with the echo false > foo command the bot said above |
| 06:56.09 | somiaj | Kurvivor: after that it is a matter of taste if you want to remove xorg or maybe learn some wm like ratposion (it uses screen like bidings) |
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| 06:57.20 | Kurvivor | oh. I missed hat echo option |
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| 06:57.36 | Kurvivor | if i understand correctly, it will overwrite config for all future boots? |
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| 06:58.07 | somiaj | Kurvivor: displaymanager start up scripts should check that file, and only launch the dm if they are mentioned in that file |
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| 06:58.36 | somiaj | Kurvivor: unsure how systemd is dealing with this, but over all that is just a file to configure which display manager gets used to ease having to manage each service if you say have multiple display managers installed |
| 06:58.53 | Pwkay | and, about my problem - i can reinstall debian (i have all files backuped), if someone know, how to fix this lines on the meddle of screen in opengl games (in teeworlds too, lol) |
| 06:59.06 | Pwkay | *middle |
| 06:59.31 | Kurvivor | somiaj: i did not have tha file, though |
| 07:00.37 | somiaj | Kurvivor: hmm that is strange. Do you know what display manager you are using. You could just uninstall your display manager...other is try to manage the service with systemctl. Again systemd may do things a bit differntly since it dosen't use init.d scripts which I think is what was using that file. |
| 07:00.53 | somiaj | Kurvivor: I haven't tested, I just always have 'false' there and don't install displaymanagers as I don't like them. (: |
| 07:01.32 | somiaj | Pwkay: so you are getting graphical glitches with opengl? Sure it is not hardware? What version of debian are you running and what drivers? |
| 07:02.56 | Pwkay | there was debian jessie nonfree with lates drivers. And 850M videocard |
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| 07:03.36 | somiaj | Pwkay: 850M nvidia? How did you install the latest drivers? |
| 07:03.40 | somiaj | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 07:03.41 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.76-5~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.76-5; sid/non-free: 340.76-5; experimental/non-free: 352.30-1 |
| 07:04.10 | Kurvivor | so, my display manager is fluxbox |
| 07:04.16 | Pwkay | im used, whats was installed by default from netinstaller |
| 07:04.36 | somiaj | Kurvivor: no it is not |
| 07:04.42 | somiaj | Kurvivor: that is a window manager |
| 07:05.03 | somiaj | Kurvivor: that factoid the bot gave listed all possible package names for display managers I belive |
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| 07:05.14 | somiaj | Kurvivor: and suggested just removing all those packages. (: |
| 07:05.22 | ctmjr | Pwkay: earlier you said you installed bumblebee is this an optimus laptop? |
| 07:05.51 | somiaj | Pwkay: I am just checking you didn't install the drivers from nvidia.com or as ctmjr mentioend bumbleebee from some third party sources. |
| 07:06.46 | Pwkay | i didnt. Im installed debian -> installed steam from repo -> got glitches -> going to install proprietary drivers -> got bugs with them. I did it wrong? |
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| 07:07.58 | somiaj | Pwkay: 850M or 850M GTX? |
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| 07:08.20 | Kurvivor | somiaj: i do not believe i have any of display managers, though. At least, there is no graphical prompt to login |
| 07:09.39 | somiaj | Kurvivor: if you have no display manager, xorg should not start at startup unless you made some special script to autologin your user and startx as that user. |
| 07:09.41 | Pwkay | <somiaj>, whats the difference? |
| 07:09.59 | Kurvivor | so, i do not have gdm, pdm, wdm, xdm or what have you (checked with dpkg -l)) |
| 07:10.14 | somiaj | Pwkay: I don't think there is a non GTX version, I was just double checking the supported cards for the non-free version in jessie and I didn't see 850M, I only saw GTX 850M |
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| 07:10.37 | somiaj | Pwkay: but even with a newer driver it doesn't add a non GTX 850M card |
| 07:11.07 | Pwkay | http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-850m/specifications |
| 07:11.14 | Pwkay | this, i think ^ |
| 07:11.30 | somiaj | Pwkay: well from what I see if you installed the non-free drivers from the debian repos and double checked there was no errors in loading them in dmesg, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and maybe checked the output of glxinfo and it appears the drivers are running correctly |
| 07:11.32 | Pwkay | google says, there are no non gtx version |
| 07:11.45 | Kurvivor | somiaj: that's how it works out of the box in damn small linux. I would sk there, but the channel is somewhat dead |
| 07:12.00 | Pwkay | xorg crashes at launch - i did smthing wrong |
| 07:12.19 | somiaj | Kurvivor: oh so no wonder none of the info I gave you worked. This is why we dont' support debian derivatives |
| 07:12.22 | somiaj | !damn small linux |
| 07:12.23 | dpkg | sends small linux to the deepest circle of hell, reserved for mutineers and betrayers. |
| 07:12.39 | Pwkay | anyways - do you know, how to fix problem with opengl render of free driver? |
| 07:12.49 | somiaj | !dsl |
| 07:12.49 | dpkg | [dsl] Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable, or Damn Small Linux (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/), join #damnsmalllinux on irc.freenode.net for related questions, see also <based on debian>. |
| 07:12.50 | Pwkay | i can reinstall debian every time |
| 07:13.08 | Kurvivor | well, i did try to install debian for 2 days straight and it failed to do so. And dsl iwas installed fine |
| 07:13.13 | Kurvivor | so there |
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| 07:13.18 | somiaj | Pwkay: no I use the non-free nvidia driver personally. (: |
| 07:13.29 | somiaj | Kurvivor: well what failed? I can help you with that. |
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| 07:14.37 | Kurvivor | in one word: installation. In more words: during the installation, if some funny failure did not occur (usually related to reading from disc or hdd), system went into reboot and then did not boot from hard drive) |
| 07:14.43 | somiaj | Pwkay: unsure what the issue could be, my experience with graphical glitches always ended up being bad hardware, but besides that the only other option is check logs for errors, and see if google can enlighting you. |
| 07:15.01 | Kurvivor | from what i could tell, boot recod was not, well, recorded |
| 07:15.02 | somiaj | Kurvivor: what install medium were you using? HOw did you create this install medium? |
| 07:15.14 | Pwkay | okay... im going to sleep right now, ll back later and ask someone else. If i ll find way to fix glitches, i ll reinstall opensource driver. Otherways, i ll try to fix xorg |
| 07:15.49 | Kurvivor | downloaded iso from debian.org and burned it - specifically, netinstall one (i downloaded several of them, but for some reason live cd merrily went into kernel panic after boot menu)) |
| 07:16.27 | somiaj | Kurvivor: so you burnded it to an actual cd/dvd as opposed to a usbstick? |
| 07:16.39 | somiaj | Kurvivor: efi or legacy boot? |
| 07:18.20 | Kurvivor | wasn't sure if embedded board i am working with supported loading from usb. And - what is more important - burning CD from ISO is the most straightforward way to use it |
| 07:19.03 | somiaj | Kurvivor: yea, debian iso's are really straight forward to put on usb too, 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdX' |
| 07:19.41 | Kurvivor | if you already have some linux/unix ) |
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| 07:19.50 | somiaj | Kurvivor: Anyways just making sure you didn't make the usb with unetbootin or some other tool that is common for putting an .iso on a usb drive as those break debian's isos. (: |
| 07:19.55 | somiaj | then get win32diskimager for win32 systems |
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| 07:20.31 | madmattco | rufus |
| 07:20.36 | Kurvivor | why is burning them wrong? |
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| 07:20.40 | somiaj | If you burnt them to cd's and double checked the iso's checksums then I can't really guess what the problems would be. |
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| 07:21.02 | somiaj | Kurvivor: burning them is not, using something like unetbootin or rufus to copy them to a usb can damage the image and make it not boot correctly |
| 07:21.24 | somiaj | but as long as you did a direct image burn (that didn't do anything fancy like try to make it bootable) it should work |
| 07:21.43 | somiaj | as for your issue with how to configure DSL to not start into xorg, you need to ask their support. |
| 07:21.57 | Kurvivor | i see. Sorry for taking your time |
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| 07:22.14 | Kurvivor | i will keep wht you said in mind |
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| 07:22.31 | somiaj | Kurvivor: no problem, sorry debian wouldn't install for you. I'd like to say it works for me, but Ihaven't had to install debian in 8+ years. |
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| 07:33.48 | Burps | Hi : I just wanted to upgrade my Soekris FW from wheezy to jessie, but it does not boot anymore more : read something about grub2 not friend with net5505 : did anyone already meet this issue ? |
| 07:34.07 | Burps | ^^net5501 |
| 07:34.27 | somiaj | Burps: so it is grub2 is not loading? Or is grub loading but failing to run init? |
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| 07:35.08 | somiaj | I have not heard of such an issue, maybe google will have more info, but there are alternatives to grub in jessie, though you'll need some recovery media to fix your system |
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| 07:36.04 | Burps | I don't even get to grub : I'm connected with a serail cable, and the last line is " 1 Seconds to automatic boot. Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.", then keyboard press doesn't do anything |
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| 07:37.18 | somiaj | Well I would try to reinstall the boot loader, or if you find grub2 has trouble with the system try another boot loader |
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| 07:38.34 | guigeek | hi how to co |
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| 07:38.59 | guigeek | how to convert compiled sources into a package debian with the easiest way ? |
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| 07:42.33 | Burps | here is the boot process : http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/497890 |
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| 07:43.43 | Katharsis | not id / pk, index is what i need |
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| 07:44.12 | Katharsis | (for and enumerate isn't good for it) |
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| 07:47.30 | guigeek | any ideas ? |
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| 07:54.03 | Aprendiz1234 | hi all. do Samba respect unix ACLS? I have permissions with ACLs and I test with the user logged in the server and it is working but from samba ACLs are ignored |
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| 07:58.13 | break3r | Aprendiz1234, as I just read in my book - it's possible, but it's not smart |
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| 07:58.38 | Aprendiz1234 | break3r: why is not smart? |
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| 07:59.50 | break3r | that's what's not written there |
| 08:00.16 | guigeek | how to convert compiled sources into a package debian with the easiest way ? |
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| 08:01.22 | Aprendiz1234 | break3r: but is bad practice playing with unix ACLs? |
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| 08:02.18 | break3r | Following sentence in the end of the article: If you want to use Samba with ACLs, since Samba 3.0 you need to activate the ACLs in filesystem level, to change unix rights from your windows pc |
| 08:02.35 | break3r | Now you just need to find an unix admin, who'd do something like that |
| 08:02.48 | break3r | (not exactly the sentence, but I think it hits the point) |
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| 08:06.58 | lxsameer | I accidentally removed my nginx.conf file how can i revive it using apt ? |
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| 08:09.42 | Aprendiz1234 | break3r: Ext4 have ACLs enable by default. I don't need to change unix rights from windows, only that clients(linux, OSX ..) respect unix ACLs. With the same user in order to access to a folder I have different behaviours. If I login in the server the ACLs is working in the way I need but from smb:// ACLs are ignored |
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| 08:10.26 | Mathisen | lxsameer, apt-get install nginx but you need to purge before.. |
| 08:10.56 | Mathisen | lxsameer, otherwise download the .deb and " dpkg --force-confmiss -i " |
| 08:11.19 | lxsameer | Mathisen: thanks |
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| 08:21.07 | jelly | lxsameer: first figure out which package the path belongs to: dpkg -S /etc/nginx/nginx.conf |
| 08:21.24 | jelly | then do the confmiss or confnew thing |
| 08:21.27 | lxsameer | jelly: thanks |
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| 08:21.31 | jelly | dpkg, tell lxsameer about confmiss |
| 08:21.53 | Touki | How should I restart iptables on squeeze, after having add a rule for opening a port? |
| 08:22.04 | jelly | Mathisen: assuming it belonged to the package named "nginx" might be wrong |
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| 08:27.05 | Mathisen | jelly, well i correct myself then in one of these it must be " nginx nginx-common nginx-full " |
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| 08:29.45 | dansushi | I'm having a problem where my debian machine is pausing upon any reboot, showing "a start job is running for dev-disk-by x2duuid" and then the UUID of a partition that I have in my fstab, but have set as nofail |
| 08:30.01 | dansushi | does anyone have any experience with any issue like this? |
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| 08:35.48 | wulllst | i just found that there is currently no sea monkey package maintained by debian. but there has been one before. does anyone know why it has been dropped? |
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| 08:38.18 | jelly | !iceape |
| 08:38.18 | dpkg | Iceape Internet Suite is an unbranded <SeaMonkey> suitable for free distribution. Security support for Iceape has ended in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" (DSA 2819-1), the iceape packages were removed at the <7.4> and <6.0.9> point releases (Debian bug #732314). Debian recommends migrating to <iceweasel> and <icedove> for web browsing and mail functions. |
| 08:38.22 | jelly | wulllst: ^^ |
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| 08:40.08 | wulllst | jelly: sorry, yes i was talking about iceape |
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| 08:42.42 | wulllst | dpkg: so is iceape less secure in any generally known way? |
| 08:42.43 | dpkg | ...but so is already something else... |
| 08:42.58 | bazhang | thats a bot wulllst |
| 08:43.17 | wulllst | bazhang: oh my, am i acting stupid today. |
| 08:43.30 | bazhang | its irc it ahppens |
| 08:43.35 | bazhang | and happens |
| 08:43.48 | wulllst | well, you would't talk to dpkg in the command line either |
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| 08:44.29 | wulllst | so, is iceape known to have any general security disadvantages compared to iceweasel? |
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| 08:45.51 | jelly | it had at the time of removal |
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| 08:46.34 | wulllst | reason is ask this is: i just updated to iceweasel 38.2.1 on wheezy yesterday and i'm fed up with mozillas user interface changes without asking. |
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| 08:49.52 | xreal | systemd question (wheezy): Can I start sshd in emergency or maintainance mode like this? "systemctl start sshd.service" |
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| 08:50.49 | jelly | wulllst: you might like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ but there's no way around getting a new ESR release every 7-9 months for firefox. Er, iceweasel. |
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| 08:52.02 | jelly | xreal: systemd in wheezy doesn't seem like a common configuration, don't be surprised if there's no answer (apart from the obvious Try It And See) |
| 08:52.14 | xreal | jelly: JESSIE! Sorry, JESSIE. |
| 08:52.25 | xreal | jelly: I'm sorry ;-( |
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| 08:52.49 | xreal | All those names mess my mind up. I'm a Windows guy. We've numbers. |
| 08:53.09 | xreal | Windows 7, 8, 95, 98, 10 ... |
| 08:53.36 | RoyK | xreal: debian 8, then ;) |
| 08:53.47 | xreal | RoyK: will there be Debian 9 or directly Debian 10 :) |
| 08:54.15 | RoyK | xreal: https://paste.debian.net/309919/ |
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| 08:54.39 | RoyK | xreal: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch |
| 08:55.49 | xreal | RoyK: just was a joke because Microsoft missed out the "9" |
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| 08:58.13 | RoyK | xreal: well, I have no idea why M$ skipped the 9 - or indeed why the didn't name it windows X |
| 08:58.44 | jelly | xreal: also, it's called "ssh" or "ssh.service", |
| 09:00.16 | xreal | RoyK: they've problems with some software in Windows 95 and windows 98 checking the "9" only. |
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| 09:03.10 | RoyK | xreal: the problem with certain types of programmers is that they shouldn never be allowed to go beyond the initial 'hello world' code |
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| 09:12.23 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 09:12.47 | spaceone | hi |
| 09:12.49 | spaceone | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libefence.so.0 |
| 09:12.59 | spaceone | â what does this mean? |
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| 09:13.08 | spaceone | i have specified the package dependency |
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| 09:15.16 | rook2pawn | Hi, how can i add an entry to NetworkManager from the command line? Is there a utility for this? |
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| 09:18.25 | spaceone | solved |
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| 09:22.31 | aswin | rook2pawn: I think you can do all the configuration by editing /etc/NetworkManager |
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| 09:22.47 | aswin | rook2pawn: I am not sure about that |
| 09:23.41 | aswin | rook2pawn: But I am sure that you can configure almost everything from /etc/ |
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| 09:25.13 | DoctorD90 | rook2pawn: |
| 09:26.10 | DoctorD90 | nmcli, but i like much more create a config file and put it in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connection/ |
| 09:26.27 | DoctorD90 | and restart networkmanager :) |
| 09:26.52 | DoctorD90 | afk |
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| 09:28.25 | Burps | So, i'm booting a Soekris with console port, with PXE : I get to the DHCP, then start pxe, then it seems the "ncurse" menu does not display : I only have some "frame" char at the first column : any idea ? |
| 09:29.48 | Burps | (I don't know if it's really a ncurse menu, it's just a guess) |
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| 09:31.52 | SKYRAN | Hello All! How to add option in debian installer to install some extra package. I mean in the menu that we select kde or gnome or blabla how to add som extra selection? |
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| 09:36.09 | SynrGy | SKYRAN: those are tasksel metapackages |
| 09:36.24 | SynrGy | SKYRAN: you need to customize tasksel-data |
| 09:36.54 | SKYRAN | SynrG, Hello, I should I handle that? Where is that file? |
| 09:38.04 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 09:38.19 | tite12345 | What's this thing I can use for my chords that I can attach underneath my desk? |
| 09:38.26 | tite12345 | I think I really need that. |
| 09:38.42 | tite12345 | I'll check out NewEgg |
| 09:38.46 | SynrGy | SKYRAN: have a look at the /usr/share/tasksel/descs/debian-tasks.desc stuff belonging to Section: user, i think |
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| 09:39.09 | SynrGy | tite12345: offtopic |
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| 09:41.23 | SKYRAN | SynrG, I want to change that file in cd or dvd that people install needed package though the installetion witout pain! |
| 09:41.36 | c0m0 | Hi, How can i start tgt iscsi server daemon in debian 7.8? |
| 09:42.06 | SynrGy | SKYRAN: i can't specifically help with that today. i've given you enough info to try to solve it on your own. if you run into trouble, if you have *specific* questions, feel free to ask |
| 09:42.16 | SynrGy | maybe someone else here can help further |
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| 09:42.31 | SynrGy | i've never done this kind of customization before. |
| 09:42.41 | SKYRAN | SynrG, Okey thanks for your help! :) |
| 09:42.45 | SynrGy | np. good luck |
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| 10:21.18 | Burps | When pxe booting, using minicom or cu, the windows shows 15 chars on the line and keeps overwriting them, thus making the text unreadable : did youy already meet that ? |
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| 10:38.02 | bijan_ | is there a 8.1 package that offers mysql 5.6 behaviour? |
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| 10:38.28 | bijan_ | mariadb? |
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| 10:40.21 | ksk | bijan_: for what debian release? stable? |
| 10:40.27 | bijan_ | stable, yes |
| 10:40.37 | bijan_ | I need mysql 5.6 compatibility |
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| 10:41.08 | bijan_ | is there a way to install mysql 5.6 in a clean way? |
| 10:41.42 | bijan_ | I saw that SID offers mysql 5.6 but SID is not stable, right? |
| 10:42.20 | ksk | !tell bijan_ about isd |
| 10:42.23 | ksk | !tell bijan_ about sid |
| 10:42.36 | ksk | seems there is no 5.6 in debian nor debian backports |
| 10:43.15 | bijan_ | ksk: so shall I remove the VM and switch to ubuntu? |
| 10:43.23 | ksk | I know percona offers 3rd party repos, take a look: https://www.percona.com/doc/percona-server/5.6/installation/apt_repo.html |
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| 10:43.43 | ksk | If you want mysql5.6 from your distributor, you would have to change the distri, yes. |
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| 10:43.58 | bijan_ | ksk: I also found https://www.dotdeb.org |
| 10:44.07 | ksk | if you can accept using the one from percona (they are rockstable/business-level packages/guys) |
| 10:44.07 | bijan_ | they offer mysql 5.6, too |
| 10:44.11 | ksk | but they are not debian. |
| 10:44.42 | bijan_ | percona is drop in replacement, right? |
| 10:44.47 | ksk | yes. |
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| 10:45.03 | bijan_ | ksk: would you go with percona or with the dotdeb mysql? |
| 10:45.08 | ksk | has some extra features that normally only oracly mysql hast |
| 10:46.16 | ksk | I dont like dotdeb, but package quality will likely highly depend on the maintainer |
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| 10:46.50 | ksk | percona does security patches and has some manpower, dont know about the maintainer of the mysql5.6 package at dotdeb |
| 10:47.21 | themill | dotdeb packages have a reputation for being pretty low quality |
| 10:47.39 | bijan_ | ksk okay thxso I'll try percona |
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| 10:59.20 | xreal | Interesting, my mdadm array is "clean", but mounting gives me " wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock" :( |
| 10:59.43 | xreal | ah, now it works. sorry |
| 11:00.43 | xreal | wtf, I've found the bug, which made my systemd go amok! |
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| 11:01.21 | xreal | fstab had "/dev/md/avv_wms:osm" as device. mdadm was updated and the device is names "/dev/md/osm" now |
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| 11:01.35 | unborn | themill, how can we help you regards .deb packages? |
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| 11:08.00 | themill | !how-can-i-help |
| 11:08.01 | dpkg | Want to help out with Debian and become more involved in the Debian project? The tools wnpp-alert, rc-alert (both from the devscripts package) and how-can-i-help can provide inspiration on buggy or unmaintained packages that you have installed on your system. Ask me about <wnpp>, <rc-alert>, <devscripts>, <new maintainer guide>. https://debian.org/intro/help |
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| 11:08.45 | aswin | how to copy text from terminal to terminal in vim |
| 11:09.16 | unborn | aswin, ctrl+shift+c |
| 11:09.27 | unborn | and paste is just +p |
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| 11:10.42 | Pwkay | ~ |
| 11:10.47 | noodles1 | Am I the only one who gets 403 from https://wiki.debian.org/ ? |
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| 11:10.57 | unborn | i mean paste is like ctrl+shift+p aswin |
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| 11:11.05 | Pwkay | @noodles, yes |
| 11:11.22 | unborn | noodles1, yes |
| 11:11.38 | Pwkay | someone know, how to fix opengl render in nouveau? |
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| 11:11.42 | noodles1 | hm, what could be causing that? |
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| 11:11.47 | aswin | unborn: that doesn't work |
| 11:12.02 | unborn | aswin, let me check that |
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| 11:12.27 | unborn | aswin, for paste use ctrl+shift+v |
| 11:12.38 | unborn | that should work for you :) sorry |
| 11:12.48 | SynrGy | noodles1: probably caught up in their spam filter. write them at debian-www@lists.debian.org or see #debian-www @ irc.oftc.net for support. |
| 11:13.03 | fmerges | hello, quick question regarding loading of xmodmap settings, I' trying to use an ~.xsessionrc file that calls xmodmap with the ~/.xmodmaprc file for interchanging the caps lock with escape key, I think im missing something because it's not being called |
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| 11:13.20 | fmerges | debian jessie btw |
| 11:13.25 | unborn | aswin, before you copy the command in terminal you have to highlight it |
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| 11:15.23 | unborn | noodles1, tor? perhaps apache config to ban your country which is highly unlikely .. cache in your browser? |
| 11:15.53 | noodles1 | unborn: I figured it out, I'm using a vpn. First time that's happened |
| 11:16.43 | unborn | noodles1, well sometimes is good to go there with direct connection ;) |
| 11:17.01 | Pwkay | guys? someone got glitches while render opengl on nouveau? |
| 11:17.08 | aswin | unborn: If you select the text by using pointer then it works fine! |
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| 11:17.34 | aswin | unborn: But if you select with "V" Visual command then that doesn't work |
| 11:17.36 | aswin | !! |
| 11:17.37 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 11:17.39 | unborn | aswin, exactly.. I am hoping that you sorted then :) |
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| 11:18.28 | aswin | unborn: But most of the time I am not using poiter at all |
| 11:18.40 | Aprendiz1234 | why samba4 is ignoring ACLs? anyone knows abot it? |
| 11:19.01 | unborn | ah you mean highlight the text in nano? meh that should work.. just highlight the source you need to with nano command and then use short cut Ive gave you.. on my end it does work |
| 11:19.12 | unborn | me too.. |
| 11:19.13 | unborn | :) |
| 11:19.17 | vickycq | is away: I'm busy |
| 11:19.57 | maziar | i have too many TIME_WAIT on port 80 , ( this is netstat command : netstat -nat | grep :80 | grep TIME_WAIT | wc -l ) ,,,,,, is it bad ?? should i decrease it ? |
| 11:20.22 | aswin | unborn: Not in nano!! in vim |
| 11:20.32 | unborn | perhaps you can use your shortcut keys on your editor differently? meh sorry I use only nano.. |
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| 11:20.57 | ItTakesTwo | eeeeee6 |
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| 11:23.06 | fmerges | can anyone point me to the direction for having caps lock and escape key exchanged in jessie? |
| 11:29.58 | Pwkay | guys, which kernel jessie stable uses right now? |
| 11:30.18 | fmerges | Pwkay: 3.16.0 |
| 11:31.08 | Pwkay | any ways to switch kernel to 4.1 or later? |
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| 11:31.44 | Amun_Ra | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 11:31.45 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.1+66~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.1+66; sid: 4.1+67 |
| 11:31.55 | Amun_Ra | (hint included) |
| 11:32.27 | jelly | maziar: what do you mean by "too many", is your service suffering? Does anything not work? |
| 11:34.09 | maziar | jelly, i think 24000 TIME_WAIT is to many for 36000 connection |
| 11:34.32 | Pwkay | https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-4.1.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 im need this one, right? |
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| 11:36.08 | jelly | maziar: that really depends on your traffic. If things work well, don't worry about it |
| 11:36.35 | maziar | jelly, thank you, its seems that every thing is fine |
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| 11:41.25 | Aprendiz1234 | how is possible that samba server ignored posix acls? is that possible? |
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| 11:43.26 | Stummi | Aprendiz1234, samba does not know about ACLs |
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| 11:46.41 | Vitaly-Lava | does any body know how to handle "run-parts: failed to stat component /etc/kernel/postinst.d/update-notifier: No such file or directory |
| 11:46.41 | Vitaly-Lava | " during kernel upgrade to 3.16.0-4? |
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| 11:48.13 | Pwkay | simple question. If im need to make drivers for my wifi, cuz of bugs in proprietary - should i update kernel at 1st? Or i can update it later and changes ll being saved? |
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| 11:49.41 | Aprendiz1234 | Stummi: why? if I have ACL permissions, samba doesn't pay attention to that? |
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| 11:51.04 | nkuttler | Pwkay: what do you mean? |
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| 11:52.51 | Pwkay | @nkuttler, i have realtek wifi - it doesnt work with opensource driver, and bugged with nonfree. But there are way to fix it, by git clone and then make (there are custom made drivers on github, they works). |
| 11:53.24 | Pwkay | it requires kernel-headers. Should i update kernel at 1st? |
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| 11:55.14 | nkuttler | Pwkay: yes |
| 11:55.27 | Pwkay | thanks, thats what i needs to hear |
| 11:55.34 | Pwkay | *going to reinstall debian* |
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| 12:09.49 | Stummi | Pwkay, uhm, updating kernel does not mean reinstalling debian |
| 12:10.19 | SaEeDIRHA | hey guys , do you know how can i add "ssh server " to system startup? i have tried "update-rc.d -f ssh remove and then update-rc.d -f ssh defaults" but they don't seem to work and i have to manually start the service after each reboot |
| 12:10.24 | SaEeDIRHA | i am using Kali 2.0 |
| 12:10.29 | Stummi | !kali |
| 12:10.30 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 12:10.46 | SaEeDIRHA | i really appricaite if anyone could help since , didnt find anything online so far |
| 12:11.12 | Brigo | SaEeDIRHA, we don't know how kali manages the ssh server, sorry. |
| 12:11.18 | Stummi | SaEeDIRHA, you probably have to configure in whatever init sytem kali uses |
| 12:11.40 | Stummi | also, kali is not really a usefull everyday-linux-distribution to work with, IMHO |
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| 12:11.58 | Pwkay | @Stummi, proprietary nvidia driver crashed my xorg and xauthority and i spend one day to fix it. No, thanks - its easier way |
| 12:12.11 | SaEeDIRHA | Stummi, i know , i have it in my vm , just playing with it and thats why i need ssh access |
| 12:12.29 | Stummi | Pwkay, remove nvidia driver, delete your xorg config and voila, you should be able to run xorg again |
| 12:12.39 | SaEeDIRHA | but thanks though , i am asking in Kali-linux channel as well , since it is debian based , i thought it would be relevent here |
| 12:13.21 | Stummi | SaEeDIRHA, the problem with debian based systems is that we don't know what changes another distribution does to its debian base |
| 12:13.24 | Pwkay | nvm, im already on installation process |
| 12:13.32 | SaEeDIRHA | Stummi, i use Kubuntu for everyday use |
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| 12:14.55 | markybob | SaEeDIRHA, he didn't have root |
| 12:15.45 | SaEeDIRHA | markybob, sorry ? i do have root access, i am logged it with root |
| 12:15.53 | SaEeDIRHA | logged in* |
| 12:16.36 | markybob | SaEeDIRHA, did i say "you" or "he"? :P |
| 12:16.47 | markybob | SaEeDIRHA, don't worry about it. not important |
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| 12:22.14 | SaEeDIRHA | well i just had to enable it , lol |
| 12:22.27 | SaEeDIRHA | update-rc.d ssh enable |
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| 12:22.40 | SaEeDIRHA | sometimes simple answers take hours to find |
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| 12:26.24 | Aprendiz1234 | Stummi: can you help me with samba and posix ACL. why did yo tell me that samba understand ACLs? |
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| 12:27.34 | Stummi | Aprendiz1234, nah sorry, was a misunderstanding. I don't know enough about samba to be particular helpfull |
| 12:27.56 | Aprendiz1234 | Stummi: ok, thanks |
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| 12:34.38 | Robololyev | Hello, a folder from a mounted drive, so in "/mnt/usb" has "drwx------ root root" permissions. How can I change permissions so it becomes "drwx------ alex alex" (my normal user)? Therefore I can "cd" inside and not use root to do it. |
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| 12:36.57 | ezra-s | Robololyev: sudo chown alex:alex /path/to/dir |
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| 12:38.26 | themill | Robololyev: what filesystem is on this usb drive? |
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| 12:40.00 | Robololyev | themill: its ext2 |
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| 12:41.10 | themill | then you can use chown and chmod as normal |
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| 12:41.43 | Robololyev | alright |
| 12:41.48 | Robololyev | thank you guys, it worked |
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| 12:48.09 | snow | Grsecurity Kernel patch is ending public release of stable patches: http://grsecurity.net/ |
| 12:48.12 | snow | Important Notice Regarding Public Availability of Stable Patches |
| 12:48.15 | snow | Due to continued violations by several companies in the embedded industry of grsecurity®'s trademark and registered copyrights, effective September 9th 2015 stable patches of grsecurity will be permanently unavailable to the general public. For more information, read the full announcement. |
| 12:48.20 | snow | They are based on the GPL'd Linux kernel. And say "fuck you" to us plebs |
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| 12:49.00 | Pwkay | i think, everyone heard it |
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| 12:49.12 | snow | Pwkay: what can be done about this? |
| 12:49.33 | choice | Do you guys use skype to talk to people who want to "skype" with you or are there alternatives in the debian repos? |
| 12:49.36 | snow | Pwkay: ??? |
| 12:49.40 | themill | snow: Well you'd talk to them about it, not #debian |
| 12:49.41 | snow | what can be done about this? |
| 12:49.47 | snow | themill: where? |
| 12:49.54 | Pwkay | their new patches ll be only for group of people, but i heard, they ll be available for public later |
| 12:49.57 | snow | #grsecurity is dead and I don't use twitter |
| 12:50.15 | snow | Pwkay: it doesn't say that in the announcement |
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| 12:50.31 | themill | snow: try their mailing lists then |
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| 12:50.43 | Pwkay | idk, is it truth, but i heard it |
| 12:50.43 | snow | it just says the public may only test patches "not fit for public consumption" |
| 12:50.56 | snow | themill: they don't use that anymore, it's "legacy" |
| 12:51.11 | snow | ie: they take the GPL'd linux kernel |
| 12:51.12 | Pwkay | @choice, i seen plugins for pidgin in debian's repo, i think |
| 12:51.17 | snow | we then "test" for them |
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| 12:51.25 | snow | then they polish their "product" |
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| 12:51.31 | snow | and they sell it to their sponsors |
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| 12:51.34 | Pwkay | redhat v2? |
| 12:51.44 | themill | snow: that's quite enough of your crap again, thanks |
| 12:51.54 | planetmaker | <snow> They are based on the GPL'd Linux kernel. And say "fuck you" to us plebs <-- no, on the contrary. They say 'fuck you' to those who don't play by the rules of GPL and rip-off on their work |
| 12:52.22 | planetmaker | they only stop to provide *binary*. and they totally play by GPL rules |
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| 12:53.00 | jelly | planetmaker: this is offtopic for #debian, #debian-offtopic is more appropriate |
| 12:53.07 | planetmaker | agreed. sorry |
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| 12:58.23 | Martin7777 | hello all! |
| 12:58.44 | xreal | What do all these crazy errors mean? The httpd is working: http://pastie.org/pastes/10389575/text |
| 12:59.12 | Martin7777 | pls help me install aptitude to debian |
| 12:59.30 | jelly | Martin7777: alright, which debian release are you using? |
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| 13:00.32 | markybob | xreal, "88 Address already in use" seems self explanatory |
| 13:00.46 | planetmaker | Martin7777, sudo apt-get install aptitude |
| 13:00.51 | planetmaker | !apt-get |
| 13:00.52 | dpkg | apt-get is a program (part of the apt package) used as a simple command line tool to libapt. apt-get is the original frontend for <apt>, but <aptitude> is now the recommended tool for managing packages. See also <why aptitude>, <reference>, <synaptic>, <apt-cache>, <gdebi>. http://wiki.debian.org/apt-get http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9 |
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| 13:00.54 | Martin7777 | I'm linuxes do not understand. What is the command to find out information about the current release? |
| 13:00.54 | xreal | markybob: I don't have anything else running than this httpd. let me play around. |
| 13:01.25 | Martin7777 | apt-get and aptitude not installed |
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| 13:02.15 | jelly | !debian suite |
| 13:02.15 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 13:02.18 | jelly | Martin7777: ^^ |
| 13:02.49 | jelly | Martin7777: if you don't have apt-get installed, it's not likely your OS is Debian |
| 13:03.40 | MrBuddy | hi |
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| 13:04.45 | Martin7777 | 7.1 |
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| 13:05.10 | planetmaker | :-O |
| 13:05.20 | peterrooney | jelly: ...or you have no administrator permission on said machine |
| 13:05.46 | planetmaker | that is... ancient and definitely unsafe, Martin7777. I recommend really to do a sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade. And accept the changes |
| 13:06.02 | planetmaker | you're prone to several vulnerabilities fixed since release of 7.1 |
| 13:06.06 | themill | you'd need apt to be installed first |
| 13:06.24 | planetmaker | is there a debian without apt? :) |
| 13:06.26 | jelly | peterrooney: don't need those to make sure /usr/bin/apt-get exists |
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| 13:06.49 | jelly | lol, ancient |
| 13:07.01 | jelly | looks at a etch/lenny machine |
| 13:07.16 | planetmaker | that's not ancient, that's pre-historic then ;) |
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| 13:13.53 | snow | planetmaker: just to clear things up, grsec is not talking about binaries, they are no longer to distribute their stable patch of the linux kernel |
| 13:14.04 | snow | planetmaker: ie the source code to their stable version |
| 13:14.07 | markybob | oh c'mon |
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| 13:14.17 | markybob | learn your lesson |
| 13:14.36 | snow | planetmaker: and they claim on their site that anything else "is not fit for public consumption" |
| 13:15.21 | snow | planetmaker: so it's not like they're releasing that sourcecode but if you want binaries you have to pay. No they aren't releasing the source of that stable patch unless you pay. |
| 13:15.26 | snow | planetmaker: that is their statement |
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| 13:17.05 | snow | planetmaker: basically: they take linux kernel (GPL), make a derivative work (their source code patch) that adds security features, then we test it, then they release the stable patch to the people that pay them and we do not get it |
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| 13:17.53 | queso | On Debian Wheezy with a Brother printer. When I print from a browser, the job fails and CUPS says "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftops failed" and the printer becomes unusable. This has happened before but I can't remember what I did to get the printer working again. I know not to print from a browser because of the bug that causes this. But my wife forgot. So the printer is stuck. I rebooted, restarted the printer, etc., nothing ... |
| 13:17.59 | queso | ... seems to make it so I can print again. I realize the bug has been fixed upstream and I don't need to fix the issue locally. But what do I need to do to make it so my printer works again when I don't print from the browser? |
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| 13:24.30 | BadCodSmell | How can I change the locale of my system? It is stuck to LANG=en_US and I want it C, resurcive grep in etc finds no EN_US |
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| 13:25.00 | markybob | BadCodSmell, tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 13:25.10 | BadCodSmell | I don't have locales installed |
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| 13:25.42 | markybob | BadCodSmell, edit /etc/default/locale ? |
| 13:25.51 | BadCodSmell | Is it possible it's taking the setting from ssh? |
| 13:25.55 | BadCodSmell | The file doesn't exist |
| 13:26.11 | BadCodSmell | maybe it's a symlink |
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| 13:26.39 | markybob | BadCodSmell, might help. https://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 13:28.05 | BadCodSmell | Bah so it is coming from ssh |
| 13:29.24 | dennis_345 | Hello. I have a Debian Jessie server which does not start when one of drives listed in /etc/fstab is not present. All I see is screen metions failed dependency and than machine drops to emergency mode (root shell). Is this normal behaviour? How can I configure system to boot without mounting missing hard drives? |
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| 13:31.36 | themill | !nofail |
| 13:31.36 | dpkg | Systemd by default does not let your system boot if any filesystem fails to mount. You can prevent that by adding the mount option "nofail" in /etc/fstab to non-essential filesystems. see https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#systemd-auto-mounts-incompat |
| 13:32.26 | dennis_345 | Thank you! |
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| 13:34.01 | Vitaly-Lava | does any body know how to handle "run-parts: failed to stat component /etc/kernel/postinst.d/update-notifier: No such file or directory" during kernel upgrade to 3.16.0-4? |
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| 13:37.17 | Pwkay | how to update linux kernel? |
| 13:37.50 | peterrooney | That's a stunningly non-intuitive mount option. |
| 13:38.11 | markybob | Pwkay, same way you upgrade everything else. apt-get |
| 13:38.50 | Pwkay | @markybob, i need to install backported 4.1. What should i type? |
| 13:39.20 | markybob | Pwkay, read this http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 13:39.32 | boblee | anyone know where I can check "how" a package was upgraded. As in what script was run? |
| 13:39.46 | markybob | Pwkay, there's an instructions section |
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| 13:39.49 | themill | peterrooney: like user, auto, noauto, it's an fstab option not a mount option |
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| 13:42.44 | Pwkay | @markybob, it says "bash: deb: command not found" |
| 13:43.20 | markybob | Pwkay, yeah. you're supposed to add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:43.32 | markybob | Pwkay, read more carefully. it says it |
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| 13:43.41 | themill | Pwkay: "add this line ⦠to your sources.list" |
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| 13:43.55 | pragomer1 | find . -iname *.mkv -exec ffmpeg -i {} -vcodec copy -acodec copy -ss 00:00:00.000 -t 00:00:10.000 out.mkv \; How do I name "out.mkv" to {}_edited.originalfileextension ? |
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| 13:44.20 | Stummi | Pwkay, start reading documentations please |
| 13:44.32 | Stummi | and thinking, before you do anything |
| 13:44.59 | Pwkay | oh sorry :'D im strongly needs to sleep |
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| 13:50.27 | Stummi | Pwkay, you could be probably done by now if you wouldn't have reinstalled your debian serval times for stupid reasons ;) |
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| 13:52.31 | SPF | I'm trying to netinst debian 8.1, but it's stuck at the following line: |
| 13:52.33 | SPF | [ 0.128420] pci 0000:00:1c.0: PCI bridge to [bus 02] |
| 13:53.22 | SPF | I tried with pci=noacpi, but that doesn't work, any suggestions? |
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| 13:54.46 | Pwkay | and how to enable this? |
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| 13:55.00 | markybob | SPF, hrm. i wonder what your acpi bios settings are. |
| 13:55.11 | markybob | SPF, take a look at this https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6539#c28 maybe? |
| 13:55.36 | Stummi | Pwkay, the way its explained here: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 13:56.23 | Pwkay | oh, okay... believed, kernel have different way to activate |
| 13:56.43 | Stummi | no, the kernel is a debian package like everything else |
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| 13:57.09 | Pwkay | i made apt-get install. Whats now? reboot to enable? |
| 13:57.29 | markybob | Pwkay, did you apt-get update and install? then just reboot |
| 13:57.42 | Stummi | Pwkay, did it say it was successfully? |
| 13:57.55 | markybob | Pwkay, and given your history get ready for another reinstall :P |
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| 13:58.18 | Pwkay | it says no errors |
| 13:58.31 | Stummi | and it installed your new kernel? |
| 13:59.08 | Pwkay | it says, it found my new kernel |
| 13:59.13 | Pwkay | *its |
| 13:59.20 | Stummi | well, try a reboot than |
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| 13:59.54 | Stummi | worst thing that can go wrong is something not starting because of missing or incompatible drivers |
| 14:00.34 | Pwkay | its failed to load nonfree firmware, but its... done |
| 14:00.50 | markybob | Pwkay, uname -r for giggles. what's it say? |
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| 14:01.40 | Pwkay | 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 14:01.51 | vickycq | is away: æ²æµ´æ´è¡£ |
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| 14:02.08 | themill | vickycq: please disable that |
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| 14:02.27 | Pwkay | wait, im lagged |
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| 14:03.06 | Pwkay | nouveau sched error after reboot |
| 14:03.09 | rselon | is there a way to check when a package is going to hit testing? |
| 14:03.23 | rselon | (if no new problems are found) |
| 14:03.34 | Pwkay | a lot of |
| 14:03.41 | Pwkay | should i update nouveau? |
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| 14:03.51 | themill | rselon: well if it's not a standard "in 5 days" then you can't know |
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| 14:05.00 | Pwkay | or install it from backports too? |
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| 14:05.13 | silentpj | hello, I need help with preseed via dhcp. What is the option code for the filename option? I'm not using isc dhcpd. |
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| 14:08.01 | Pwkay | guys? |
| 14:08.10 | esde | girls? |
| 14:08.22 | Pwkay | and girls too |
| 14:08.30 | jelly | small furry creatures from alpha centauri? |
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| 14:08.38 | Pwkay | yes, them too |
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| 14:09.12 | Pwkay | is there nouveau driver in backports? |
| 14:09.14 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 14:09.15 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5; squeeze-backports: 1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.0.1-5; jessie: 1:1.0.11-1; sid: 1:1.0.11-1+b1; stretch: 1:1.0.11-1+b1 |
| 14:09.25 | jelly | Pwkay: signs point to "no" |
| 14:09.25 | kradenn_ | exir |
| 14:09.44 | jelly | Pwkay: except for the kernel part, which you already know about |
| 14:09.45 | SPF | markybob: thanks, I managed to get it to work with acpi=off instead of pci=noacpi. I could not find any acpi settings in the bios |
| 14:09.48 | Pwkay | but i got some nouveau errors when start |
| 14:09.58 | markybob | SPF, cool. you're welcome |
| 14:09.58 | Pwkay | how to fix them? |
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| 14:11.03 | jelly | eh, errors at start is fine. Machine consistently crashing after 2-3 days uptime is bad... |
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| 14:11.26 | jelly | using the blob again |
| 14:11.31 | Pwkay | there wasnt on default kernel. But ok |
| 14:11.40 | choice | Is the following a legit command or is it somehow broken? /sbin/modprobe cpufreq_ondemand > /dev/null 2>&1 echo 'ondemand' > '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor'; |
| 14:11.40 | BadCodSmell | In which debian configuration file can I find where to change login to /bin/goaway? |
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| 14:11.51 | BadCodSmell | I do not want a login on boot |
| 14:11.57 | BadCodSmell | Just the goaway screen |
| 14:11.58 | avar | choice: you're missing a && before "echo" |
| 14:12.17 | avar | also unless you're root that pipe won't work |
| 14:12.43 | choice | avar: let me check... |
| 14:13.20 | choice | avar: i think it is actually two command |
| 14:13.21 | choice | avar: i think it is actually two commands |
| 14:13.37 | jelly | choice: maybe you can just install cupfrequtils and configured them to do that. I think that's their default anyway |
| 14:13.42 | jelly | cpufrequtils * |
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| 14:13.48 | choice | this is from powertop |
| 14:13.56 | BadCodSmell | ah I think I have to pass it to getty with -l |
| 14:14.54 | choice | jelly: it seems to work well this way |
| 14:15.25 | jelly | choice: yeah, but then you have to put it in rc.local or somewhere |
| 14:16.00 | choice | jelly: yes, true. is putting "source /my/powersavescript.sh" into /etc/rc.local the right way to go about it? |
| 14:16.10 | choice | or without the "source"? |
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| 14:19.54 | vickycq | is back (gone 00:18:03) |
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| 14:20.07 | Pwkay | pastebin.com/Q7UVc8Jq |
| 14:20.10 | Pwkay | any ideas? |
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| 14:20.55 | eyebrowns | hello. here is question: how to run second desktop session in currently running X server? (p.s. i couldnt figure right question for google) |
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| 14:21.11 | markybob | vickycq, no one cares. please disable those notices all themill told you to |
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| 14:21.25 | fmerges | I'm using a docking station, with 2 monitors, the strange thing is that with these new laptop with debian installation it just recognizes one monitor when running xrandr, but it actually is mirroring on both, any idea on where to look for it? |
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| 14:22.08 | vickycq | markybob, sorry. |
| 14:22.36 | madmattco | anyone know what setting to change to specify the dir to use for the root of automounts? |
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| 14:22.47 | ianliu | I just installed Debian through netinstall without any graphical interface in VirtualBox. What driver should I install so X11 works? |
| 14:23.08 | markybob | Pwkay, i think if you add nouveau.modeset=0 to kernel parameters you'll be fine |
| 14:23.11 | madmattco | what desktop environment do you want |
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| 14:26.20 | Pwkay | @markybob, how to do this? |
| 14:26.43 | markybob | Pwkay, again, you learn how to google. dude, c'mon. |
| 14:26.55 | markybob | Pwkay, i give you the tools. you need to do your part |
| 14:27.09 | madmattco | backspaces all the lines he was going to type |
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| 14:27.45 | ChrisH | ianliu: install the DE you want to use and that should be sufficient... like: apt-get install kde |
| 14:27.58 | choice | When I add my script to /etc/rc.local - should I still have the "exit 0" at the end of rc.local? I guess yes. |
| 14:28.27 | jelly | choice: yes |
| 14:29.24 | Pwkay | in nouveau irc says, older nouveau wont work |
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| 14:29.35 | choice | jelly: ok, thanks |
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| 14:29.53 | markybob | Pwkay, that's terrific. don't even try it. |
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| 14:30.26 | markybob | Pwkay, in fact, ask them all further questions about it |
| 14:30.32 | madmattco | hooray nvidia amirite |
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| 14:31.28 | fink3 | Any packages on debian/jessie work particularly well for creating bootable windows USB? or do i need to go off-menu? |
| 14:31.46 | jelly | Pwkay: that's too bad, because stable, testing and unstable currently have the same version of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
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| 14:32.41 | madmattco | fink3: you can d the iso to usb i know that |
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| 14:32.49 | madmattco | dd* |
| 14:33.11 | fink3 | Alright I'll do that with my win 10 disk |
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| 14:33.46 | madmattco | make sure you use BS=4M to make it go a little faster |
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| 14:35.25 | Pwkay | they said about use 4.1.3 kernel, but... its not here yet, right? |
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| 14:35.42 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 14:35.43 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
| 14:35.56 | jelly | Pwkay: I see exactly 4.1.3 in jessie-backports? |
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| 14:36.47 | kradenn_ | exit |
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| 14:37.48 | Pwkay | my kernel is from backports and 4.1.0-0. How to up this to 4.1.13? |
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| 14:38.31 | jelly | Pwkay: what does your "uname -a" command say? |
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| 14:38.37 | markybob | Pwkay, at this point i'm not sure you're running debian |
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| 14:39.32 | Martin7777 | who can help to set up openvpn server via teamviewer? And how much will that cost me? |
| 14:39.39 | thealchemist | Anyone using llpp out here? |
| 14:40.00 | madmattco | Martin7777: there are bash scripts out there for that |
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| 14:40.36 | Pwkay | it says, "Linux pcname 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.1.3-1~bpo8.1 (2015-08-12) x86-64 |
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| 14:40.46 | jelly | Pwkay: see that 4.1.3-1~bpo8.1 bit? |
| 14:41.08 | Pwkay | it means, im on 4.1.3? okie |
| 14:41.12 | Pwkay | i ll try to reboot |
| 14:41.15 | jelly | Pwkay: that means your kernel is based on upstream 4.1.3, yes |
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| 14:41.42 | fink3 | jelly: possible to remove that startup message somewhere? |
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| 14:43.25 | jelly | fink3: sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about |
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| 14:44.02 | markybob | fink3, i guess you're talking about /etc/motd ? |
| 14:45.36 | Pwkay | pastebin.com/G6B3s3jJ |
| 14:46.21 | markybob | Pwkay, you still didn't do what i suggested. |
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| 14:46.47 | markybob | Pwkay, you're basically impossible to help. |
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| 14:47.17 | madmattco | what is he trying to do anyway? |
| 14:47.29 | fink3 | markybob: you can remove some welcome text from /etc/motd - but i havent found a way to remove login-time / version of linux/kernel |
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| 14:49.05 | fmerges | anyone with an idea of why xorg would see two monitors as one? |
| 14:49.16 | madmattco | mirror mode |
| 14:49.21 | fink3 | sounds like its mirroring the display |
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| 14:49.49 | otyugh | ,v handbrake |
| 14:49.50 | judd | Package: handbrake on amd64 -- wheezy-multimedia: 0.9.8+git20121007-dmo7; wheezy-backports: 0.9.9+dfsg-2~2.gbpa4c3e9~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.9.9+svn6422+dfsg1-2; stretch: 0.10.2+ds1-1+b1; sid: 0.10.2+ds1-1+b1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.10.1-dmo3; sid-multimedia: 1:0.10.2-dmo2 |
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| 14:49.54 | abrotman | !motd |
| 14:49.54 | dpkg | The "Message Of The Day" (MOTD) may be shown to users at login time. In Debian 8 "Jessie", motd is entirely under the control of the administrator; edit /etc/motd as desired. For login(1), pam will prepend uname; customise that in /etc/pam.d/login. For ssh, /run/motd.dynamic is used with sysvinit and nothing is used with systemd; customise that in /etc/init.d/motd. See "man 5 motd" http://deb.li/3WLLd |
| 14:49.58 | fmerges | xrandr -q only shows laptop screen and one of the external monitor connected to the dock, while i have two |
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| 14:50.11 | madmattco | are you using an ati card? |
| 14:50.23 | jelly | fmerges: what does that mean, same picture on both? One output visible in "xrandr"? |
| 14:50.28 | fmerges | madmattco: intel, its an dell latitude e7450 |
| 14:50.47 | madmattco | what dm are you using? |
| 14:50.51 | fmerges | jelly: eDP1 is laptop screen and DP1 is one of the monitors |
| 14:51.11 | fmerges | bt there should be a second one, and in fact i have those two monitors in mirror |
| 14:51.22 | fmerges | madmattco: im using standard gnome 3 |
| 14:51.29 | fmerges | madmattco: debian jessie |
| 14:51.36 | madmattco | well, i had a problem similar to this while running slim and openbox |
| 14:51.39 | jelly | fmerges: hm. Save the xrandr output. Then poweroff the machine, and power it on while it's connected to the dock. Take xrandr -q again, does it change? |
| 14:51.56 | madmattco | i had to go in my config and specify each monitor before xrandr would see them |
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| 14:53.00 | jelly | fmerges: dock hotplugging histroically had some issues. I have no idea if that's still the case. |
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| 14:53.49 | jelly | fmerges: Xorg.log differences might also be interesting |
| 14:53.52 | madmattco | anyone have any idea about the mount issue i posted |
| 14:54.28 | fmerges | jelly: http://paste.ofcode.org/32AFn2k3KrJyYdKDFBKE4AV |
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| 14:57.05 | fmerges | madmattco: you mean xorg.conf? |
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| 14:57.37 | madmattco | i believe it was yes. i run 5 screens on my system and xrandr had a very hard time telling what was what |
| 14:57.38 | jelly | fmerges: which cpu/gpu do you have, does it support three CRTC outputs at the same time? |
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| 14:58.53 | fmerges | jelly: INTEL CORE I7-5600U |
| 14:58.56 | madmattco | but i am technically running 4 gpu's |
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| 14:59.27 | Pwkay | 4 gpus? r u mining bitcoins? :O |
| 15:00.08 | jelly | fmerges: ah, that's a recent HD5500 one |
| 15:00.27 | jelly | fmerges: version of xserver-xorg-video-intel package? |
| 15:00.42 | fink3 | conspiracy theory: bitcoin ties computing power directly to monetary gain - people develop faster computers - singularity - money doesn't matter. [] |
| 15:00.43 | fmerges | jelly: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1 |
| 15:00.49 | fmerges | jelly: from jessie-backports |
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| 15:01.03 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 15:01.21 | ShapeShifter499 | what is the absolute minimal space required for a debian chroot? |
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| 15:01.23 | madmattco | no. when i was into windows, i multiboxed world of warcraft lol |
| 15:01.37 | jelly | fmerges: kernel also from backports or 3.16? |
| 15:01.37 | ShapeShifter499 | can I get away with using this on a 4gb SD card? |
| 15:01.40 | Pwkay | @shape, toaster pc |
| 15:01.43 | fmerges | 316 |
| 15:01.58 | jelly | fmerges: I'd try using the kernel from backports as well. |
| 15:02.01 | ShapeShifter499 | Pwkay: toaster? lol |
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| 15:02.20 | jelly | !bpo kernel |
| 15:02.20 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 15:02.25 | jelly | fmerges: ^^ |
| 15:02.37 | madmattco | http://puu.sh/iwGVk/bcd902e169.jpg <-my rig |
| 15:02.45 | ShapeShifter499 | Pwkay: I'd be running this on a OpenWRT router via USB storage, just wondering how small the USB storage could be before I'd see issue |
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| 15:03.10 | madmattco | http://puu.sh/jUhah/852f93e7c9.jpg <-my screens |
| 15:03.19 | Pwkay | i seen some guides - i think, it ll works fine |
| 15:03.21 | thealchemist | I am compiling a package but it says ft2build.h even though I installed python-dev and libfreetype6-dev |
| 15:03.44 | fmerges | jelly: installing 4.1 |
| 15:04.00 | fmerges | jelly: let me reboot |
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| 15:05.15 | ShapeShifter499 | Pwkay: alright |
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| 15:05.31 | namoamitabuddha | How can I sto the current installation in debian-installer? |
| 15:05.42 | madmattco | press the reset button |
| 15:06.17 | namoamitabuddha | No, I mean, just stop the current step. |
| 15:06.49 | madmattco | ive no idea. what did you miss that you need to go back to |
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| 15:07.32 | namoamitabuddha | I chose a wrong mirror therefore network connection is very slow. |
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| 15:07.55 | madmattco | well |
| 15:08.01 | madmattco | unplug your network cord then |
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| 15:08.15 | madmattco | let it stall, it will give an error, then go back and chose another |
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| 15:08.58 | fmerges | jelly: ok, now the three work fine. thank you a lot :) |
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| 15:09.11 | jelly | fmerges: ah, good to know |
| 15:09.16 | namoamitabuddha | Okay, but no shortcut keybinding to simply stop the current step? |
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| 15:09.38 | d3c0 | !hi |
| 15:09.38 | dpkg | hello, d3c0 |
| 15:09.46 | madmattco | not that im aware of |
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| 15:10.50 | namoamitabuddha | I removed the cable. |
| 15:10.54 | namoamitabuddha | It doesn't stop. |
| 15:11.40 | namoamitabuddha | Abort current step. |
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| 15:13.23 | madmattco | what step is it on |
| 15:13.36 | namoamitabuddha | Okay, it takse some time to detect a network disconnection, lol. |
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| 15:14.27 | madmattco | yeah |
| 15:14.57 | Pwkay | pastebin.com/hjhDTirE |
| 15:15.41 | madmattco | Pwkay: what is your goal |
| 15:16.08 | Pwkay | fix nouveau errors |
| 15:16.26 | eyebrowns | Chuck Norris mining bitcoins in mind |
| 15:16.33 | An_Ony_Moose | In bug reports, are "+1"-style comments discouraged in cases where one has no additional information to provide, but wishes to express support for some subjective decision? |
| 15:16.56 | madmattco | just boot with kernel arg nomodeset and be done with it |
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| 15:21.57 | eyebrowns | i could make multiple desktop sessions in gnome with some applications in system tab. dont remember how its name, but it started another desktop session with remaining currect one |
| 15:22.35 | eyebrowns | now i use xfce, and i cant even recognize what kind of functionality it was |
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| 15:23.59 | An_Ony_Moose | q |
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| 15:26.57 | cam^ | hi, my monitor can handle 2560x1440 through displayport and 2048x1152 through VGA, xrandr --auto VGA1 will use the entire monitor and "magnify" the output. how can i display the VGA resolution on the displayport resolution (and have black borders around)? |
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| 15:27.31 | jelly | An_Ony_Moose: right, you shouldn't metoo a bug just for that. Maybe if there's a patch in there and it hasn't been touched for 6+ months, there's a reason to gently poke |
| 15:28.07 | fink3 | why does umount hang in one terminal but seems to complete when checked by another |
| 15:28.12 | jelly | cam^: it's probably the monitor itself that is doing the scaling |
| 15:29.27 | cam^ | jelly: arr.. that might be the reason. but is there a way to avoid that scaling? text is way too big ... |
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| 15:30.50 | jelly | cam^: in the monitor menus somewhere, maybe |
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| 15:35.23 | An_Ony_Moose | jelly: alright, thanks! |
| 15:35.24 | Pwkay | guys, i think, i fixed my problem |
| 15:35.35 | fink3 | What did you do? |
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| 15:37.11 | Pwkay | @fink3, i did what this unfriendly guy said - nouveau.runpm=0 |
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| 15:38.45 | cam^ | jelly: u2713hm does not seem to offer such option unfortunately...:/ |
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| 16:26.46 | Pwkay | guys |
| 16:27.11 | Pwkay | i need to install bumblebee, but it has older kernel header, than i use. What should i do? |
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| 16:33.54 | BadCodSmell | When I boot into debian (text only) in getty tty1 my keyboard mapping is all messed up |
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| 16:34.05 | BadCodSmell | What manages the keyboard setup at that stage? |
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| 16:35.37 | petn-randall | BadCodSmell: How is it messed up? |
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| 16:36.13 | jhutchins | BadCodSmell: Termcap maybe? |
| 16:36.16 | R0B_ROD | Jessie with lxde :) |
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| 16:38.00 | BadCodSmell | I think it's just not what I'm used to. My bad. |
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| 16:38.30 | BadCodSmell | Ctrl +c, etc makes weird characters and the term doesn't seem to know how to display them properly, backspace, etc |
| 16:38.50 | Pwkay | pastebin.com/MgvkCbzJ |
| 16:38.52 | Pwkay | any ideas? |
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| 16:40.01 | BadCodSmell | corruption? |
| 16:40.03 | BadCodSmell | apt-get update |
| 16:40.11 | BadCodSmell | and apt-cache policy linux-image |
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| 16:41.15 | srg | Where should I put my `fortune` command so that it runs on login? I know certain files are for interactive sessions and some for non-interactive...I only want it for interactive. |
| 16:41.22 | srg | Is it .profile or .bashrc or...? |
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| 16:42.03 | shay_shay | .profile |
| 16:42.06 | srg | thanks |
| 16:42.11 | shay_shay | well, .bash_profile |
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| 16:42.36 | shay_shay | .profile is for shell agnostic stuff, but bash wont source it if .bash_profile exists |
| 16:42.37 | BadCodSmell | ouch |
| 16:42.41 | BadCodSmell | getty on debian is bugged |
| 16:42.58 | shay_shay | best thing is to source .profile from .bash_profile, srg |
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| 16:43.06 | shay_shay | and put shell agnostic stuff in .profile |
| 16:43.15 | Pwkay | how to downgrade kernel? |
| 16:43.20 | eyebrowns | well, xfswitch-plugin pull out gdm dependencies |
| 16:43.22 | srg | shay_shay: Ok, thanks! |
| 16:43.33 | eyebrowns | awesome |
| 16:43.47 | Guest97679 | Hi guys, I need some help please my audio just cut out on debian jessie, i have checked I am not muted, this happened post last shutdown |
| 16:43.51 | petn-randall | Pwkay: Install the other kernel, boot into it, remove the newer one. |
| 16:44.31 | eyebrowns | <Guest97679 so many information about your problem |
| 16:44.43 | ctmjr | Pwkay: you installed a newer kernel from backports you can choose the older kernel at the grub menu when you boot your computer |
| 16:44.49 | Pwkay | but its already installed |
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| 16:45.06 | Pwkay | but... how to switch it permanently? |
| 16:45.39 | Guest97679 | @eyebrowns, how can i give you more information, what are you looking for and what do i need to provide in order to get a fix |
| 16:45.53 | petn-randall | Pwkay: Then select that kernel to boot in the grub menu, and remove the one you don't need. |
| 16:46.13 | Pwkay | emmh... but how? oO |
| 16:46.35 | petn-randall | Pwkay: Which part are you having problems with? |
| 16:46.44 | Pwkay | every :I |
| 16:47.00 | Pwkay | im noob and needs how-to-step-by-step |
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| 16:47.14 | Pwkay | thats why noone likes me on debian channel :c |
| 16:47.21 | bazhang | Pwkay, this is the third round of step by step |
| 16:47.37 | petn-randall | Pwkay: Restart, and you'll see the grub menu with a timeout. Press the arrow down key and select the older kernel. |
| 16:47.49 | Qwertii | eyebrowns, can you help me? |
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| 16:48.01 | eyebrowns | Guest97679 i had problems with sound too. i didnt remember what to do |
| 16:48.06 | eyebrowns | Guest97679 try google |
| 16:48.09 | Pwkay | i see no older kernel in it. Only "debian" and "other settings" (or smthing like that) |
| 16:48.20 | petn-randall | Pwkay: Then select other settings ... |
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| 16:48.43 | Pwkay | yay thanks |
| 16:49.19 | Qwertii | eyebrowns: sorry changed nickname, Im not sure what could have caused it, it literally happened after boot |
| 16:49.40 | Pwkay | and then...? how to remove newer one? |
| 16:50.20 | petn-randall | Pwkay: Which release of Debian are you running, and which kernel do you want to remove? |
| 16:50.44 | Pwkay | im on debian jessie stable with 3.16 kernel and want to remove kernel from backports |
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| 16:50.58 | R0B_ROD | RTFM |
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| 16:51.10 | eyebrowns | Qwertii, there is somewhere alsa config. its removed in debian, dunno why, but debian use default configuration then. i put in this file soundcard type. this affects alsamixer channels |
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| 16:51.39 | Pwkay | 4.1.0.0-0, i think |
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| 16:51.58 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 16:51.59 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
| 16:52.12 | Pwkay | yes, this |
| 16:52.27 | Pwkay | 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1) |
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| 16:53.08 | markybob | Pwkay, apt-get remove linux-image-`uname -r` will remove your running kernel |
| 16:53.14 | petn-randall | Pwkay: run `dpkg -l 'linux-image*'`, check with `uname -a` that you're *not* running the kernel you want to remove, and then run `apt-get purge X`, X being the complete package name. |
| 16:53.25 | markybob | Pwkay, then reboot into whatever other kernel you have |
| 16:53.32 | petn-randall | markybob: That's a dangerous thing to do. |
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| 16:54.26 | Pwkay | so... i must to boot to 4.1.0, run apt-get-remove linux-image-`uname -r` and reboot |
| 16:54.29 | Pwkay | right? |
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| 16:55.07 | markybob | without the dash before remove. *assuming* you have another working kernel. you do, right? |
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| 16:55.22 | petn-randall | Pwkay: That's the way you should not do it. If the other kernel doesn't boot, you won't be able to recover without a live system. |
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| 16:55.43 | markybob | Pwkay, you have another working kernel? |
| 16:55.51 | ctmjr | why would you boot into a kernel and try to remove it? |
| 16:55.52 | Pwkay | yes |
| 16:56.01 | Pwkay | i have 3.16 and 4.1.0 |
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| 16:56.22 | Pwkay | my default right now is 4.1.0 |
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| 16:56.50 | Pwkay | how to change default kernel? then, i wont need to remove newer |
| 16:57.04 | petn-randall | Pwkay: I have already given you the instructions, you just have to follow them. |
| 16:57.20 | markybob | Pwkay, https://wiki.debian.org/GrubConfiguration |
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| 17:01.22 | webuser32 | hi, I've got a weird problem with graphic card and I'm not too sure how to start debuging it |
| 17:01.39 | webuser32 | on certain websites the screen connected with HDMI cable goes blank |
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| 17:02.07 | webuser32 | the driver in use is i915 |
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| 17:02.22 | webuser32 | I think it has got to do something with decoding certain pictures as |
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| 17:02.38 | webuser32 | I certain videos cause the same problem |
| 17:02.47 | webuser32 | but then again is nly hdmi |
| 17:03.00 | webuser32 | there's nothing in the logs |
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| 17:03.37 | webuser32 | where would you start the investigation? |
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| 17:04.17 | webuser32 | I'm using debian testing kernel 4.1 |
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| 17:06.38 | ctmjr | webuser32: make sure the cable is seated firmly if you have another cable try it |
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| 17:07.22 | webuser32 | ctmjr, yes, I've done that already with different cables |
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| 17:09.03 | petn-randall | webuser32: So are you running testing? |
| 17:09.14 | webuser32 | petn-randall, yes |
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| 17:09.22 | petn-randall | !testing |
| 17:09.22 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a very bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 17:09.52 | petn-randall | webuser32: testing/sid are supported on #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 17:10.33 | webuser32 | petn-randall, I'm more fishing for ideas how to debug the problem than for support. I doubt it's distro related. |
| 17:11.09 | webuser32 | it's just that I never really did anything graphics related on linux |
| 17:11.40 | petn-randall | webuser32: I'm pretty sure it makes a difference between stable and testing, since practically all the packages are newer and less tested versions by now. |
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| 17:12.27 | webuser32 | petn-randall, so then I'm testing the testing which is also good |
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| 17:13.11 | petn-randall | webuser32: Indeed :). testing just went through a rough gcc5 transition, that caused a lot of trouble for users on the way. |
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| 17:14.34 | webuser32 | could be, but I'm gessing this is more hardware related .. long shot but some decoding /hw decoding libraries cause this error |
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| 17:15.07 | webuser32 | as it's only only certain images that trigger the behaviour |
| 17:15.16 | jhutchins | webuser32: Nothing relevant in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
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| 17:15.53 | webuser32 | jhutchins, nothing at all |
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| 17:15.55 | jhutchins | webuser32: X is a seperate subsystem from the kernel (at least until systemd gets hold of it), but you could try different kernels. |
| 17:16.12 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 17:16.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
| 17:16.43 | jhutchins | webuser32: You should be able to get a 3.16 kernel. |
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| 17:17.05 | webuser32 | jhutchins, the problem was also present with 3.16 so maybe 4.2 |
| 17:17.13 | webuser32 | 4.2 I haven't tried yet |
| 17:17.16 | jhutchins | webuser32: In cases like this it's useful to have both testing and stable installed so you can switch and see if it's software or hardware. |
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| 17:32.12 | SPF | after installing debian 8.1 successfully, I'm trying to boot for the first time, but I get a blank screen |
| 17:32.16 | SPF | I don't even see grub |
| 17:32.30 | SPF | is this because of the 686-pae kernel? |
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| 17:35.23 | abrotman | SPF: what's your hardware? |
| 17:35.47 | SPF | I have a Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z510 |
| 17:37.07 | SPF | abrotman: here are all the details: http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/fit-pc2/ |
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| 17:37.20 | abrotman | SPF: I don't think it would be, but you could try the -386 installer and have it install the 486 kernel |
| 17:37.24 | SPF | I'm already running debian on it for years, but never tried installing 8 |
| 17:37.31 | abrotman | it's a 32bit CPU |
| 17:37.38 | SPF | abrotman: can I chroot to install the 386 kernel? |
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| 17:37.45 | abrotman | you can certainly try |
| 17:37.47 | abrotman | shouldn't be too hard |
| 17:37.52 | SPF | ok thanks |
| 17:38.13 | SPF | so 686 isn't 32 bit? |
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| 17:39.02 | Amun_Ra | it is |
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| 17:40.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | 686 can be 32 bit. |
| 17:40.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | or, well, it is. it's also supported by 64-bit architectures as well. |
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| 17:40.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | by amd64, at least. |
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| 17:49.07 | Pwkay | thank you, guys - im installed bumblebee and everything works fine. Next time, i im ll read documentation :D |
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| 17:53.10 | Amun_Ra | Pwkay: that's the way to go in every scenario :> |
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| 18:09.32 | ShiroNeko | hello, i have the following output on apt-cache policy php5 |
| 18:09.55 | ShiroNeko | http://pastebin.com/pX60s5Rf |
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| 18:10.13 | ShiroNeko | how do i force php 5.3 to be installed |
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| 18:10.55 | somiaj | ShiroNeko: dotdeb repos are known to sometimes be poor quality, and installing a package for squeeze in wheezy can be problemmatic. |
| 18:11.09 | ShiroNeko | vi this is my /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences |
| 18:11.09 | ShiroNeko | http://pastebin.com/wRpzq2yK |
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| 18:11.29 | somiaj | ShiroNeko: I personally suggest using the version that is supported by wheezy security. That being said, apt-get install package=version, and note you may not be able to satsify the depends for the package since it was not made for wheezy. |
| 18:11.32 | ShiroNeko | but php 5.4 is be installed, no matter what i do |
| 18:11.51 | Brigo | remove it? |
| 18:12.11 | Brigo | what do you need version 5.3 for? |
| 18:12.14 | ShiroNeko | somiaj: unfortunatlly i have to use php 5.3, but its for an internal serer only |
| 18:12.26 | ShiroNeko | dewntreon 2.5.3 |
| 18:12.30 | ShiroNeko | centreon |
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| 18:12.57 | Brigo | ShiroNeko, don't know what this is. |
| 18:13.09 | ShiroNeko | configuration frontend for nagios |
| 18:13.15 | Brigo | i am wonder if you can install squeeze in a container and run centreon from there. |
| 18:13.23 | Brigo | ShiroNeko, use icinga!! :D |
| 18:13.25 | somiaj | ,v php5 |
| 18:13.26 | ShiroNeko | it supports only php 5.3 |
| 18:13.26 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3.1-7+squeeze26; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.44-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.44-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.9+dfsg-1; stretch: 5.6.11+dfsg-1; jessie-security: |
| 18:13.27 | judd | 5.6.12+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.12+dfsg-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.12+dfsg-1 |
| 18:13.51 | ShiroNeko | icinge is not an option, has to be centreon |
| 18:13.54 | somiaj | if security isn't an issue, a squeeze-lts chroot should work just fine and run the server from there. |
| 18:14.13 | ShiroNeko | sec isn't an issue |
| 18:14.22 | somiaj | anyways, I would suggest looking for an alternative that is not installing a squeeze package from dotdeb (I'd say this even if you were runing squeeze) |
| 18:15.35 | Brigo | ShiroNeko, is a web interface admin tool? |
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| 18:17.35 | ShiroNeko | Brigo: yes, with some graphing |
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| 18:18.36 | Brigo | ShiroNeko, if you need graphic access -Xorg access- then a container could be a problem (it is possible but not as easier as without graphic access). |
| 18:18.59 | Brigo | ShiroNeko, intall squeezy just for try in a container is very easy with lxc. Try it. |
| 18:19.32 | jaojo | Guys, what are hemorrhoids |
| 18:19.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | jaojo: shouldn't you be on undernet? |
| 18:19.56 | jaojo | damn ok it would. no my 4s (ios7) it waster teeth africa. your for mixing to marry |
| 18:20.04 | jaojo | cd. someone unded a swat think it was and is then brothere we got 12 guage. ur 12 guage would ax, what king mass transfers. Pastor Dewey Smith the are young. why doesn't prope just use shit but what are pissed to mean, im nor in good girl. rofl. the half + 7 rule. and collapse if i wont he lease door. runatrain basektball the basicallers. yep.... GENITAL WARTS! maybe. just a hard them like you |
| 18:20.06 | jaojo | wont datpiff. for no these days. I aint shit but pleast marrying mass transit |
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| 18:20.12 | jaojo | what man right as a wuss. i donkey braine. heh. i only played with jazz or forbin is super audi Arabia's king with has quite all. ur teeth make gary from stuff. forskin for some rounded a sacd and collapse in you need a ton of random rap ppl. mainly played with great that's reason why the tinderneath then this is a joke |
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| 18:20.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | !ops |
| 18:20.16 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 18:20.20 | jaojo | your shack dood. 23 and sing b/c on you do you arent. i know or r&b problem is good girl....shes marry a guy? ok .... ns hows you do shit. Let's not as yer swat team. you became prevery-game. hands. They neighbors warm indifferees |
| 18:20.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | !ops spam |
| 18:20.28 | jaojo | culture. forbin are ball official files davis sacd. that contist. ill go to instructs ready forbin. Why are you knock on you're talking here. im indifferents, i think 25. is sacd. someone partied to deal at 62% |
| 18:20.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: noimnotninevolt complains about: spam |
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| 18:20.36 | jaojo | someone partied for president. Hey culture faste space is more 30 every a 23 and he got thats thing. where. o god. 23 and game. what married, speak your living on..... ns how to separate the done. just tanks. tanks are cbr. but how to they had a virtual spotify to fine action. Hi. o god. tanks are just looking to the aretha franklin sacd. sue you knock on thing dealing space on you're jealous |
| 18:20.42 | jaojo | ^ |
| 18:20.43 | jaojo | i wasn't there's URL title: "Europe just that. forbin future. just areason why does think think 25. is a game. yarddog's URL title Roethlisberger w/ her your for meeee. the Hof game witch rememberi was like your for 3 yeah a guy? ok ....Id be that si. his excited.... for 3 year . talk I talking that guy |
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| 18:20.51 | jaojo | Peter: no one part he is 37 *shrug*. Dfnc Sounds on my fist jackass. i dones knocked over country to married for problem is got be the rock. classic rock. classic do mean, she certainly likes davis supposed the rounds like if i want. i thing about 5hrs, downloading ans spline/local file on my bare cbr. break young. ryan101 nuked over. just great shit. when i know.... GENITAL WARTS! maybe. and |
| 18:20.53 | jaojo | roethlisberger w/ her you so each section. |
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| 18:22.17 | bamboozle | hi. a huawei 4g dongle, works on ubuntu, worked on debian until i unplugged and plugged it in again. in ubuntu appears as ethernet device, in debian something else (wwan). any ideas? |
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| 18:23.36 | bamboozle | in dmesg, in ubuntu i see cdc_ether, in debian cdc_mbim |
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| 18:25.59 | Brigo | bamboozle, can you paste more about that logs in paste.debian.net? |
| 18:26.09 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: look into usb-modeswitch-data and put correct file into /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/ |
| 18:26.17 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: paste lsusb |
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| 18:26.59 | bamboozle | Brigo, Amun_Ra, ok. will take a while. |
| 18:27.18 | Brigo | bamboozle, no hurry :) |
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| 18:27.33 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: ie. if your device is 12d1:1f01 look for that file in /usr/share/usb_modeswitch/configPack.tar.gz |
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| 18:30.17 | Amun_Ra | (where 12d1:1f01 is the vendor:product ID in mode you want to switch from) |
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| 18:33.56 | Amun_Ra | inâof |
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| 18:37.10 | bamboozle | Brigo, Amun_Ra, i have only this 4g conenction in use. need to switch computer. brb if doesn't work :) |
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| 18:47.27 | at0m | hi, when i "ssh -X server x-www-browser", the local log mentions "libGL error: failed to load driver: $mylocalGLdriver". Does that mean installing $mylocalGLdriver on the remote machine will accelerate that forwarded window? |
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| 18:50.23 | linwiz | I am trying to run a bash script when a usb drive gets mounted, anyone have any ideas? |
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| 18:50.49 | Brigo | linwiz, i think you need to add an UDEV rule. I don't know how :) |
| 18:51.34 | linwiz | I tried udev rules, but they run the script before I can access the files on the drive |
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| 18:53.28 | bamboozle | Brigo, Amun_Ra: putting the file from the configpack to the modeswitch dir didn't seem to do anything. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0c233fe5/ |
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| 18:54.05 | bamboozle | Brigo, Amun_Ra: now there's dmesg and lsusb, idk how helpful that will be |
| 18:54.24 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: ls -l /etc/usb_modeswitch.d |
| 18:55.13 | Touki | Hello, got an impossibility to connect to vnccserver on debian squeeze. |
| 18:55.20 | Touki | (111) |
| 18:55.21 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: it's on another computer, but the file "12d1:157d" is now there |
| 18:55.43 | Touki | Ports seem open on the server. |
| 18:55.48 | Touki | any idea ? |
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| 18:56.32 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: -rw-r--r-- root:root |
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| 18:58.06 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: check /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf |
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| 18:58.55 | Amun_Ra | if disablefoos are set to 0 set logging on and check again |
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| 19:00.07 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: ok, brb |
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| 19:03.46 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: i cant see any difference in dmesg at least |
| 19:04.04 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: check lsusb |
| 19:04.14 | Amun_Ra | if the device still 12d1:157d? |
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| 19:05.07 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: yes it's that |
| 19:05.11 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: and do you have usb-modeswitch installed |
| 19:05.23 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: yup |
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| 19:05.56 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: there should be usb_modeswitch log file in /var/log |
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| 19:07.43 | Amun_Ra | has got to go and teleports away |
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| 19:08.10 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: ok. right. hmm. "targetproduct set to 14db" ? but 'command to be run' usb_modeswitch -W -D -s 20 -b 3 -g 7 -v 12d1 -p 157d -f $configBuffer |
| 19:09.07 | bamboozle | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0c233fe5/ |
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| 19:09.43 | bamboozle | if i got debian to use cdc_ether like ubuntu instead of cdc_mbim, might that solve it? and what should i think of that segfault? |
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| 19:11.56 | Fjorgynn | anyone here writing markdown ? |
| 19:12.01 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: check usb_modeswitch -J -v 12d1 -p 157d -P 14db |
| 19:12.51 | bamboozle | ok |
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| 19:16.40 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: 'message endpoint not given or found. abort.' |
| 19:16.47 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: after careful inspection I found this: usb_modeswitch[2617]: segfault at 100000002 ip 00007ffb69666664 sp 00007fffc3da1508 error 4 in libc-2.19.so[7ffb695ea000+19f000] |
| 19:17.07 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: yes that's there too haha |
| 19:17.16 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: I guess that causes problems |
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| 19:18.14 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: possibly. weird thing is everything worked right in the beginning, and after updates and reboots but once i unplugged the modem, and plugged it back, after that it never worked again |
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| 19:19.33 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: and the same thing happened twice, i reinstalled debian once and it worked again until i removed the stick |
| 19:20.12 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: if it was that segfault causing it, what could i try to do? |
| 19:20.19 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: I had similar issue (I had to replug to use huawei in rndis mode) and simple copy solved that |
| 19:20.37 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: no idea |
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| 19:22.44 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: ok. dang. any idea why in ubuntu it uses the cdc_ether while in debian cdc_mbim? they are drivers right? |
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| 19:26.01 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: assuming there was a problem with the cdc_mbim driver, could i prevent the system from trying to use that and use cdc_ether instead? i don't understand anything about how drivers work |
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| 19:27.02 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: weird thing is the device registers under the same vendor:product as in ubuntu |
| 19:27.36 | Amun_Ra | bamboozle: I'm using Sid, if you're using different one perpahs file a bug |
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| 19:31.12 | bamboozle | Amun_Ra: ok |
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| 19:34.32 | otyugh | ,v handbrake |
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| 19:34.32 | judd | Package: handbrake on amd64 -- wheezy-multimedia: 0.9.8+git20121007-dmo7; wheezy-backports: 0.9.9+dfsg-2~2.gbpa4c3e9~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.9.9+svn6422+dfsg1-2; stretch: 0.10.2+ds1-1+b1; sid: 0.10.2+ds1-1+b1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.10.1-dmo3; sid-multimedia: 1:0.10.2-dmo2 |
| 19:34.32 | otyugh | well here I see handbrake is in wheezy-backport |
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| 19:34.48 | krav | lol netsplits. |
| 19:34.48 | otyugh | but adding it, after an apt-get update doesn't seem to set it available |
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| 19:37.10 | acidchild | hello, how do i go about rebuilding https://launchpad.net/~monotek/+archive/ubuntu/samba-vfs-glusterfs-3.6 for debian jessie? |
| 19:37.29 | fearnothing | how do I show what nameservers are currently set? |
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| 19:37.37 | acidchild | fearnothing: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 19:38.30 | fearnothing | ok, so why is there nothing in there even when I have two dns-nameserver entries in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:39.41 | acidchild | please pastebin your interfaces file. |
| 19:39.50 | Amun_Ra | fearnothing: no resolvconf installed |
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| 19:40.24 | fearnothing | http://pastebin.com/f998sqPD |
| 19:40.43 | fearnothing | Amun_Ra - no, it's installed |
| 19:41.21 | Amun_Ra | fearnothing: I see the problem: dns-nameserverS |
| 19:42.03 | fearnothing | huh, I could swear I found instructions that were showing the opposite |
| 19:42.04 | Amun_Ra | fearnothing: change to dns-nameservers ns1 ns2 |
| 19:42.04 | fearnothing | ok |
| 19:42.17 | Amun_Ra | fearnothing: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#The_resolvconf_program |
| 19:42.55 | fearnothing | well happy days |
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| 19:42.58 | fearnothing | I have DNS again |
| 19:43.08 | Amun_Ra | :> |
| 19:43.08 | fearnothing | tyvm |
| 19:43.14 | Amun_Ra | nw |
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| 20:00.32 | dimitry7 | Hi guys, I need a good LAN monitor. Any recommendation? |
| 20:01.24 | poorUser | hi people! little question, i'm going to install debian in a laptop with nvidia optimus, should i install later bumbleblee or now is supported? |
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| 20:05.41 | mtn | poorUser, I think you still need to use bumblebee |
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| 20:07.49 | poorUser | mtn: k tnk, that method isn't deprecated yet :( |
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| 20:21.49 | phale | what's better, network manager, wicd, or the plain old wifi that you set up with the ip command? |
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| 20:22.48 | nodus | phale: desktop? server? Laptop? |
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| 20:22.54 | phale | laptop |
| 20:23.04 | nodus | probably network manager |
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| 20:23.10 | phale | yeah i have a LOt of problems with it |
| 20:23.15 | nodus | as much as i hate to say |
| 20:23.16 | phale | ive asked around ,, couldnt find solutions |
| 20:23.32 | centrx | I use wicd |
| 20:23.37 | centrx | works fine |
| 20:23.43 | phale | i tried wicd, btw. was slower than nm for me |
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| 20:23.55 | jaggzes | why is this? "debsums: no md5sums for binutils" |
| 20:23.56 | phale | does anyone here know how to solve wifi related issues? |
| 20:24.01 | jaggzes | (along with many other packages) |
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| 20:25.18 | phale | im experiencing wifi issues with every wifi-card and dongle I try. mostly "authentication with MAC ADDRESS timed out" and "association with MAC ADDRESS timed out". in /var/log/syslog I get: Connection Disconnected (Reason: -4) or (Reason: -3) |
| 20:25.30 | phale | i can post full logs if anyones interesting in looking in this issue |
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| 20:26.56 | Nik05 | phale the problem isnt with the wifi access point? |
| 20:27.04 | phale | nope |
| 20:27.19 | phale | Devices work perfectly when connected to the ap |
| 20:27.23 | phale | just not the laptop it appears |
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| 20:27.30 | poorUser | avahi bug? |
| 20:27.40 | phale | avahi? |
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| 20:29.42 | phale | Nik05: tried moving laptop, only fixes it temporarily |
| 20:29.49 | phale | even when right next to the router it disconnects randomly |
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| 20:31.14 | nickjj | are there any known outages with jessie when it comes to apt installing packages? seems like security.debian.org is unreachable through apt |
| 20:31.23 | greycat | um, what |
| 20:31.38 | nickjj | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nickjj/10c5029158819397be5f/raw/3e23f704adbe05c6361bebd2a0d600370969824c/gistfile1.txt |
| 20:31.40 | greycat | I can reach it. |
| 20:32.00 | nickjj | been getting that for the last ~5min but i've successfully built this image over 100 times in the past |
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| 20:32.23 | poorUser | phale: edit as root this file /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 20:32.44 | poorUser | phale: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
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| 20:33.02 | poorUser | phale: replace that line with hosts: files dns |
| 20:33.42 | phale | ok what now |
| 20:33.56 | poorUser | phale separator is space, so it should look like-> host: files dns |
| 20:34.10 | phale | hosts: files dns |
| 20:34.12 | phale | looks like that for me |
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| 20:34.31 | poorUser | oh yes is a tab |
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| 20:34.40 | phale | ok |
| 20:34.44 | phale | so now i restart network manager? |
| 20:34.55 | poorUser | service networking restart |
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| 20:35.00 | phale | ok |
| 20:35.16 | phale | didnt really do anything |
| 20:35.23 | phale | didnt disconnect me, is that normal |
| 20:35.35 | poorUser | are you root? |
| 20:35.45 | phale | yep |
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| 20:36.07 | poorUser | cool |
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| 20:36.18 | phale | should i try to restart network-manager service |
| 20:36.23 | poorUser | try |
| 20:36.53 | phale | alright |
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| 20:36.56 | phale | it disconnect and reconnected me, normal |
| 20:37.04 | phale | not sure if it did anything though |
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| 20:37.11 | no_gravity | Whats a good way to measure resource usage of firefox with and without adblock? Is there a linux command to run an application and then get infos on the resource usage? |
| 20:37.39 | nickjj | greycat, ended up being an iptables issue, false alarm |
| 20:38.45 | poorUser | phale: are drivers ok? |
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| 20:38.54 | phale | poorUser: i have the firmware, yes. |
| 20:39.00 | phale | they arent damaged if thats what you meant |
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| 20:41.00 | poorUser | phale: if you press the wifi hardware with your finger, it works? |
| 20:41.15 | phale | if i press the wifi hardware with my finger it throws up errors in dmesg |
| 20:41.20 | phale | doesnt disconnect it or anything though |
| 20:41.27 | poorUser | phale: it could be a short-circuit problem |
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| 20:41.42 | phale | maybe |
| 20:42.14 | poorUser | the adapter is easy to reach removing the plastic cover |
| 20:42.30 | poorUser | check if the hw is ok |
| 20:42.40 | poorUser | or looks not damaged |
| 20:42.45 | phale | plastic cover? |
| 20:42.51 | phale | im using a dongle BTW |
| 20:43.16 | poorUser | sorry thougth a laptop |
| 20:43.18 | poorUser | mmm |
| 20:43.30 | phale | i have a laptop |
| 20:43.33 | poorUser | have you tested the dongle elsewhere? |
| 20:43.37 | phale | yep |
| 20:43.44 | phale | works fine on my other computer with firmware |
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| 20:43.57 | poorUser | power issues with usb? |
| 20:44.07 | poorUser | dmesg say nothing? |
| 20:44.07 | phale | not any that i know of |
| 20:44.09 | phale | nope |
| 20:44.15 | phale | well i think theres something about it in the near beginning |
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| 20:45.08 | phale | nvm |
| 20:45.10 | phale | doesnt say anything |
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| 20:46.26 | poorUser | phale: rfkill list |
| 20:46.53 | phale | 0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth |
| 20:46.53 | phale | Soft blocked: yes |
| 20:46.53 | phale | Hard blocked: no |
| 20:46.53 | phale | 1: tpacpi_wwan_sw: Wireless WAN |
| 20:46.53 | phale | Soft blocked: no |
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| 20:47.00 | phale | Soft blocked: no |
| 20:47.02 | phale | Hard blocked: no |
| 20:47.04 | phale | woops sorry for spam lol |
| 20:47.05 | poorUser | tadaaa |
| 20:47.18 | poorUser | Soft blocked: yes |
| 20:47.18 | phale | tada? |
| 20:47.22 | phale | thats the bluetooth |
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| 20:47.31 | poorUser | lol |
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| 20:49.13 | jhutchins | phale: Is it possible that that particular port on your laptop is slightly damaged/worn and the connection is unstable? |
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| 20:49.30 | phale | jhutchins: i got this laptop just recently and havent used the USB for anything but the dongle |
| 20:49.52 | jhutchins | phale: Is there another port you can try? |
| 20:50.45 | jhutchins | phale: I have successfully located and installed wifi modules in a couple of laptops that didn't have them originally. |
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| 20:51.00 | phale | nope only one usb port |
| 20:51.33 | Fjorgynn | nope |
| 20:52.00 | Fjorgynn | lsusb |
| 20:52.07 | Fjorgynn | phale: |
| 20:53.09 | Fjorgynn | good night |
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| 20:53.17 | phale | bye |
| 20:53.36 | phale | http://codepad.org/4VeKQv8s |
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| 20:59.32 | Chocolate_Chip | Opinions on this? https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript |
| 21:00.46 | greycat | Chocolate_Chip: paste it into http://www.shellcheck.net/ |
| 21:00.54 | Chocolate_Chip | ok |
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| 21:03.35 | dowwie | I'm struggling to set a custom application shortcut in debian 8.. is anyone familiar with how to use the settings panel keyboard shortcut app? |
| 21:04.13 | Siente | Hello guys, can I run Debian on my machine there are my PC specs http://pastebin.com/HBYhfdEi |
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| 21:05.08 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.13 | greycat | Yes, I'm sure you can run Debian on this. |
| 21:05.16 | towo` | Siente, why not? |
| 21:05.35 | Siente | always when I've tried to install Debian it's saying that I should compile the kernel on my own or stop the installation ? |
| 21:05.37 | Brigo | Siente, i can't see why not. |
| 21:05.38 | jelly | Siente: probably, try it and see |
| 21:05.54 | jelly | Siente: where is it saying that? |
| 21:06.06 | mutante | Siente: very likely yes |
| 21:06.07 | Siente | during the installation of Debian |
| 21:06.15 | Siente | mutante, but why? |
| 21:06.16 | Brigo | are you sure it was debian installer which said that? |
| 21:06.20 | Siente | yes |
| 21:06.23 | Siente | I am sure |
| 21:06.32 | jelly | Siente: can you provide a screenshot? The default debian-installer never says that, far as I know |
| 21:07.02 | Siente | http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu_di_kernel.png |
| 21:07.14 | Siente | aaa no |
| 21:07.16 | Siente | that's not the case |
| 21:07.25 | jelly | Siente: that's not a screenshot of an installation attempt for your machine |
| 21:07.30 | Siente | yes |
| 21:07.35 | Siente | I don't have screenshots |
| 21:07.40 | Siente | I am looking now in google for the same case |
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| 21:08.43 | jelly | Siente: also, you can grab and boot debian live iso and see how it works on your hardware |
| 21:08.50 | mutante | maybe you are trying to use the wrong ISO |
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| 21:09.03 | greycat | If your machine is greatly newer than the stable release of Debian (which tends to happen after a year or so), then you might have issues getting your network card, video card, or disk controller to work. |
| 21:09.05 | jelly | the nvidia card might work with free drivers, or it might not |
| 21:09.29 | Siente | the net install one |
| 21:09.35 | mutante | like f.e. an "IA64" when it shouldn't be |
| 21:09.37 | Siente | btw tell me good software to use to burn the iso on my USB |
| 21:10.02 | Siente | because the startup disk creator of ubuntu is giving an error |
| 21:10.20 | greycat | IA64 is the "Itanium" platform that never caught on. |
| 21:10.41 | jhutchins | Siente: sudo dd if=image.iso of = /dev/<usbdrive> |
| 21:10.49 | towo` | Siente, the good software is dd, or cat or cp |
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| 21:10.57 | mutante | Siente: https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 21:11.02 | jelly | jhutchins: itym cp image.iso /dev/<usbdrive> |
| 21:11.49 | Siente | how to check on which /dev is my USB |
| 21:11.56 | Siente | where my USB is mounted? |
| 21:12.02 | greycat | Siente: plug it in, wait 3 seconds or so, and run "dmesg | tail" |
| 21:12.09 | greycat | Siente: it should not be mounted |
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| 21:12.27 | greycat | if you're running something that automounts USB disks as you plug them in, you may have to UNmount it |
| 21:12.43 | Siente | I am with Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS now |
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| 21:13.06 | Siente | greycat, with dmesg | tail I didn't get anything |
| 21:13.24 | tristan-mei | Nothing at all or nothing pertaining to your USB device? |
| 21:13.51 | Siente | nothing pertaining to my usb device |
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| 21:14.31 | jelly | Siente: pastebin the output of dmesg|tail -n 200 |
| 21:14.40 | jelly | !paste |
| 21:14.40 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 21:15.34 | jelly | Siente: while you're at it, pastebin the output of "sudo lsblk" as well, in the same paste preferably |
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| 21:18.01 | Siente | ââsdc1 8:33 1 7,3G 0 part /media/siente/2EA9-8795 |
| 21:18.05 | Siente | seems like /dev/sdc1 is my usb |
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| 21:19.05 | Siente | jelly, |
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| 21:20.49 | jelly | Siente: pastebin the complete requested output, you might be right or not but I cannot guess based on just that line |
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| 21:21.18 | Siente | http://pastebin.com/mf8VMnVv |
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| 21:22.09 | jelly | Siente: and dmesg | tail -n 200? |
| 21:24.02 | Siente | wait I am going to reboot.. omg.. ;x |
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| 21:26.32 | Siente | http://pastebin.com/BrVmJbXc |
| 21:26.33 | Siente | jelly, |
| 21:27.00 | aruna | hi, anyone have any experience using vpnc to connect to a cisco-vpn please ? I need help |
| 21:28.19 | jhutchins | aruna: To the extent that I've used it and it's worked just fine, yes. To the extent that I have any experience troubleshooting it, no. |
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| 21:29.10 | aruna | jhutchins: Thank you GOD... oh-kay I can make the connection using vpnc but my problem is HOW do i view what is on teh remote server ? |
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| 21:29.36 | jhutchins | aruna: You're not connected to a server, you're connected to a network. |
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| 21:29.50 | jelly | Siente: lines 2-9 and 24-31 look like sdc is really your usb stick |
| 21:30.22 | greycat | jelly: did he have the stick *already in* when he booted? |
| 21:30.30 | aruna | jhutchins: have patience and lots coz this is my first time trying to do this. Okay so am connected to a network yes so HOW do I see anything anywhere ? |
| 21:30.34 | jhutchins | aruna: Sorry, I have to leave. Use whatever client you would use on the network if you were there. |
| 21:30.53 | jelly | greycat: 2.7 seconds post kernel init, you tell me |
| 21:31.07 | aruna | jhutchins: when will u be back on irc ? |
| 21:31.19 | greycat | Well, that would explain why "insert the stick, wait, dmesg | tail" didn't work. |
| 21:31.20 | jelly | sorry, 1.7 |
| 21:31.56 | jelly | and that's why we don't trust the user |
| 21:32.30 | Siente | jelly, so what? |
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| 21:33.24 | jelly | Siente: so you can now verify /dev/sdc1 isn't accidentally mounted, umount it if necessary, then write the iso image directly to /dev/sdc |
| 21:34.12 | Siente | jelly, but how to format it first? |
| 21:34.20 | jelly | Siente: no formatting required. |
| 21:34.38 | jelly | the iso image contains the format and the data and the boot thingies |
| 21:34.48 | Siente | so sudo cp Downloads/debian-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc ? |
| 21:34.53 | jelly | Siente: yes. |
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| 21:35.20 | Siente | and before that umount /dev/sdc1? |
| 21:35.24 | ctmjr | aruna: what do you expect to see on your vpn? |
| 21:35.28 | jelly | if it's mounted, yes |
| 21:35.40 | Siente | it was mounted I guess |
| 21:35.46 | Siente | ubuntu is mounting everything |
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| 21:35.57 | Siente | so after sudo cp Downloads/debian-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc |
| 21:36.01 | Siente | how can I check what is written on the USB? |
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| 21:36.23 | mutante | try to boot from it and see the installer :p |
| 21:36.34 | aruna | l ctmjr: I have to connect and do some stuff on a remote server for a friend, I can connect ok but have NO idea how to see/view the folders/files/etc.. |
| 21:36.39 | jelly | Siente: unplug it, then plug it back in and see what's there. All your previous data will be lost, and contents of debian-installer should be visible |
| 21:36.58 | jelly | Siente: or what mutante said! |
| 21:37.56 | Siente | okay brb |
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| 21:38.38 | aruna | ctmjr: vpnc says connceted and runing in background and drops me back to a shell, so what do I do next ? |
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| 21:41.47 | jelly | aruna: now you go and access the services that are only available in the private network |
| 21:42.17 | aruna | jelly: how do I do this please ? |
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| 21:42.30 | aruna | am running Debian |
| 21:42.31 | jelly | aruna: for example, if you have a linux server accessible over ssh service, you can ssh into it using an ssh client |
| 21:42.41 | jelly | aruna: which OS is on the remote machine? |
| 21:42.58 | aruna | jelly: uh-h the remote uses win-doze |
| 21:43.10 | jelly | aruna: how do you normally access it? |
| 21:43.35 | aruna | jelly: I am yet to access anyting, this is the first try |
| 21:43.49 | jelly | aruna: you have never connected to that remote machine before now? |
| 21:44.00 | aruna | jelly: Nope |
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| 21:44.29 | jelly | aruna: do you have some sort of instructions from the admin? |
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| 21:44.45 | aruna | jelly: no.. :( |
| 21:45.17 | aruna | jelly: they told me use winows and cisco-vpn client but my argument is why do dat when I have linux ? |
| 21:45.24 | jelly | aruna: do you even have the full hostname or the IP of the remote machine? |
| 21:45.39 | jelly | aruna: ok, but did they give you the instructions for windows at least? |
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| 21:45.55 | aruna | jelly: I have to hostname yes its vpn.<something>.com |
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| 21:46.31 | aruna | jelly: Yes they did, they are nice folks but I don have two boxes all I have is the one running Debian |
| 21:46.47 | jelly | aruna: that sounds like the vpn server itself. Ask the admin what the remote windows machine name is |
| 21:47.12 | aruna | jelly: oh-kay I will thanks and what else should I ask him/her ? |
| 21:47.30 | jelly | aruna: or what its IP address accessible via VPN is. Also, which username and password to use when connecting. |
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| 21:48.14 | jelly | aruna: then use a Remote Desktop client for Linux, to connect to the windows machine. Possible options: remmina, xfreerdp-x11, rdesktop. |
| 21:48.48 | aruna | jelly: How about xvnc4viewer ? |
| 21:48.49 | mutante | aruna: "Which wiki page should i paste the Linux docs too that i just added?" :) |
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| 21:49.03 | jelly | aruna: verify with them if the remote windows machine is accessible via remote desktop or something else. |
| 21:49.20 | aruna | jelly: Some of them are accessing and using |
| 21:49.36 | aruna | jelly: But they all use 64bit Windows |
| 21:49.36 | jelly | aruna: if it's accessible via VNC instead of RDP, then xvnc4viewer is an option |
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| 21:50.00 | jelly | but usually windows go with rdp, it's faster and more usable |
| 21:50.16 | aruna | mutante: Email all dat to me aruna.hewapathirane@gmail.com please |
| 21:50.26 | jelly | blinks |
| 21:50.44 | aruna | mutante was messing wid meee |
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| 21:51.14 | jelly | mutante: I see either a vast language barrier here, or a troll. Can't be sure! |
| 21:51.59 | aruna | jelly: Thank you so much for all the guidance |
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| 21:52.23 | aruna | mutante: Seriously if you have any notes/how-to's do send my way |
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| 21:53.17 | jelly | aruna: he meant that you investigate and figure how things work, then create the documentation in case other linux users happen at your place. |
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| 21:53.46 | jelly | aruna: and add it to your internal knowledge base |
| 21:54.09 | aruna | jelly: Ohh.. sorry I misunderstood my apologies and sure will DO ! |
| 21:54.21 | mutante | it was not trolling, the question was what to ask them and it was my reply |
| 21:54.22 | Stevie-O | I'm writing a sh script and want to run something if grep returns 0, which combination of if and [[ and test do I use? |
| 21:54.25 | mutante | ask them where to add the missing docs |
| 21:54.41 | jelly | mutante: I didn't suggest it was _you_ who was trolling |
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| 21:54.52 | aruna | mutante: lol I cant do dat I will get fired :) |
| 21:55.12 | mutante | aruna: ? for helping them with their work ?:P |
| 21:55.35 | mutante | i thought company wikis are fairly normal nowadays |
| 21:55.42 | jaggzes | why is this? "debsums: no md5sums for binutils" |
| 21:55.49 | jelly | Stevie-O: posix sh doesn't implement [[, that's bash-specific syntax |
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| 21:56.02 | aruna | mutante: Well... lets just say not everyone has a sense of humour and at times when bad thinsg happen no one really knows how or what to fix ? Soo.. am IT ! |
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| 21:56.19 | Stevie-O | jelly: okay, so what *is* the correct syntax to test the exit code of a program |
| 21:56.28 | jelly | Stevie-O: however, if you're checking the exit code of a command you don't need any extra [[ or test at all. |
| 21:56.35 | Stevie-O | what, just |
| 21:56.47 | Stevie-O | if echo "$LIST" | grep -w "$WORD"; then |
| 21:56.56 | jelly | Stevie-O: if /bin/true; then echo true returned 0; fi |
| 21:57.03 | jelly | Stevie-O: yes, precisely |
| 21:57.04 | Stevie-O | oh cool |
| 21:57.10 | Stevie-O | tyvm |
| 21:58.04 | Stevie-O | I can still define functions in classic sh, right? |
| 21:58.09 | jelly | yeah |
| 21:58.12 | Stevie-O | function myfunc() { ... } and access them with $1 $2 $3 |
| 21:58.25 | jelly | right. |
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| 21:59.07 | jelly | Stevie-O: amusingly, #bash channel is good for sh questions, just mention you're writing for posix sh and not bash |
| 21:59.45 | Stevie-O | oh, there's a #bash too? cool |
| 22:00.05 | Kathgrar | Hey all. I think I solved my WLAN issue: Added the line "blacklist ideapad-laptop" to /etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf, and WLAN _with_ the airplane key works now fine. ;) |
| 22:00.13 | Stevie-O | has installed Debian on a little chromebook and is trying to set up scripts to address certain issues |
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| 22:01.34 | nmschulte | Is anyone familiar with the Barracuda SSL VPN? I'm needing to know if I can play with it (connect to it) via Debian. |
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| 22:02.18 | Stevie-O | okay I am about to test resume-from-S3, wish me luck |
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| 22:22.46 | Siente | jelly, hello man I could install it this time |
| 22:23.00 | Siente | I've tried sudo apt-get update |
| 22:23.03 | Siente | and.. siente is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 22:24.05 | Siente | how to configure my Debian? |
| 22:24.47 | Siente | I've just installed it with the graphical installer |
| 22:25.00 | ctmjr | Siente: debian does not come with sudo you need to install it then adduser "name" sudo then log out and back in |
| 22:25.14 | Siente | ctmjr, but do I need sudo? |
| 22:25.18 | Siente | can't I just use su - ? |
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| 22:25.42 | ctmjr | no you do not needsudo |
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| 22:26.01 | jelly | Siente: yes, you can just use su - |
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| 22:26.37 | Siente | apt-cache policy git is saying git: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1:2.1.4-2.1 Version table: 1:2.1.4-2.1 0 500 http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages |
| 22:26.42 | Siente | but I need version 2.5.0 ? |
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| 22:27.12 | jelly | Siente: when a command says "sudo other-command" they usually really mean "run other-command as root, doesn't matter what way" |
| 22:27.15 | jelly | ,v git |
| 22:27.17 | judd | Package: git on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1; stretch: 1:2.5.0-1; sid: 1:2.5.1-1 |
| 22:27.36 | jelly | Siente: tough luck, jessie has 2.1.4 |
| 22:27.51 | jelly | you may be able to build a local backport |
| 22:27.52 | tristan-mei | Gogo Stretch! |
| 22:27.59 | jelly | judd: checkbackport git |
| 22:28.07 | Siente | so what now? |
| 22:28.17 | judd | Backporting package git in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 22:28.31 | jelly | dpkg, tell Siente about simple sid backport |
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| 22:28.42 | Siente | I am a total newbie |
| 22:28.59 | jelly | a total newbie, but you absolutely require git 2.5 ? |
| 22:29.15 | Siente | yes |
| 22:29.26 | Siente | I must learn to use Debian and Linux at all |
| 22:29.46 | jelly | Siente: why do you require that exact version of git and nothing older? |
| 22:29.58 | Siente | at work I am with git 2.5.0 |
| 22:30.10 | Siente | idk |
| 22:30.12 | jelly | okay, and? |
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| 22:31.26 | jelly | Siente: I'd try using the version that's available. If it's too different, then try doing the backport build. (dpkg bot told you the recipe for that in a private message) |
| 22:32.39 | Siente | jelly, okay during the installation I've checked to install web server |
| 22:32.55 | Siente | but there's no php installed, so maybe it have installed only apache? |
| 22:33.06 | Siente | no mysql too or postgresql |
| 22:33.29 | jelly | that's quite possible. "web server" does not mean "the LAMP stack" |
| 22:33.37 | Siente | so it means only apache or? |
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| 22:35.08 | jelly | judd: depends task-web-server |
| 22:35.09 | judd | Package task-web-server in jessie/amd64 -- depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), apache2. |
| 22:35.21 | jelly | Siente: yeah, it looks it's just apache |
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| 22:36.28 | Siente | okay so I need apt-get install php5 php5-mysql mysql-server or postgresql ? |
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| 22:39.22 | jelly | Siente: something like that. I guess you can read /msg dpkg lamp |
| 22:40.01 | Kathgrar | Is there a way to make "setterm -blength 0" globally instead of typing this into .bashrc etc ? |
| 22:40.20 | Siente | jelly, do I need to install aptitude ? |
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| 22:40.32 | Siente | and when to use aptitude and when apt-get? |
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| 22:42.13 | El-Aurian | does anyone have experience of creating distribution-quality debian packages? |
| 22:43.59 | El-Aurian | I want to re-compile wine with tweaked source code, but and want to maintain the separation of the different wine parts corresponding with the debian package names |
| 22:44.19 | centrx | El-Aurian, Try #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 22:44.36 | El-Aurian | centrx: thanks |
| 22:45.09 | centrx | !mentors |
| 22:45.09 | dpkg | mentors is probably the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 22:45.43 | jelly | Siente: hm, you should already have it installed |
| 22:45.47 | jelly | !why aptitude |
| 22:45.47 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. <lenny->squeeze>, <squeeze->wheezy>). http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
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| 22:47.34 | Siente | jelly, Debian is not coming with firefox what's the best way to install it? manually or with apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 22:48.05 | Siente | sorry for asking 2323 questions per second |
| 22:48.13 | jelly | Siente: it's called iceweasel, and either of those will work |
| 22:48.34 | centrx | !iceweasel |
| 22:48.34 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of <firefox>, which replaced it in Debian since 4.0 "Etch". Ask me about <why iceweasel>, <iceweasel vs firefox>, <iceweasel user-agent>. In GNOME, use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. Since June 2013, Iceweasel in Debian <stable> is based on the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. See also <iceweasel ntlm>. https://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel |
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| 22:49.25 | Siente | btw what is ll on ubuntu doing? |
| 22:49.27 | Siente | it's like ls |
| 22:49.34 | Siente | but I prefere it |
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| 22:51.08 | jelly | Siente: usually an alias for "ls -l" or "ls -la" |
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| 22:53.45 | Siente | jelly, thank you very much man!!! |
| 22:54.49 | jelly | you're welcome |
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| 22:56.16 | Siente | jelly, could you help me with something else? |
| 22:56.55 | jelly | nope, too tired. Ask the channel, someone else might. |
| 22:57.04 | Siente | Make sure to place the ~/.composer/vendor/bin directory in your PATH so the laravel executable can be located by your system. |
| 22:57.11 | Siente | what doest that mean in your PATH ? |
| 22:57.28 | Siente | last time I've did ln -s /home/siente/.composer/vendor/laravel/installer/laravel /usr/local/bin/ |
| 22:57.45 | Siente | jelly, okay thanks! |
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| 23:00.45 | eyebrowns | noob question: is it normal to use startx to login and remove lightdm? |
| 23:01.02 | yohnnyjoe | Siente: Your PATH tells your computer where programs are, most are in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin |
| 23:01.25 | yohnnyjoe | That's already set, you can see the PATH by typing echo $PATH |
| 23:01.38 | Kathgrar | $PATH |
| 23:01.55 | yohnnyjoe | you need to add ~/.com...../bin to your .bashrc |
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| 23:03.06 | Siente | yohnnyjoe, to my .bashrc or to /usr/local/bin ? |
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| 23:05.10 | eyebrowns | sorry, hello? |
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| 23:06.31 | yohnnyjoe | to your .bashrc |
| 23:06.52 | critter | Hi, Im having trouble with php on apache2 (jessie) |
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| 23:07.02 | Siente | yohnnyjoe, how to do that exactly? |
| 23:07.11 | markybob | eyebrowns, there is no "normal". do what you want. doesn't matter at all |
| 23:08.06 | yohnnyjoe | Siente: or to .profile if it's not a program started in bash |
| 23:08.56 | eyebrowns | markybob, im trying to not do thing that not intended to be used with my ideas |
| 23:09.12 | yohnnyjoe | Siente: PATH="~/.composer/vendor/vin:${PATH}" |
| 23:09.20 | yohnnyjoe | Siente: export PATH |
| 23:09.56 | yohnnyjoe | add those two lines, to either .bashrc or .profile |
| 23:10.58 | yohnnyjoe | Siente: oops, not /vin obv |
| 23:11.20 | Siente | yeah bin ofc |
| 23:11.26 | eyebrowns | markybob, how do you login into system? |
| 23:11.31 | Siente | but can't I just do that ln -s /home/siente/.composer/vendor/laravel/installer/laravel /usr/local/bin/ |
| 23:11.57 | markybob | eyebrowns, i use lightdm on my laptop. |
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| 23:12.16 | eyebrowns | markybob, you have only laptop? |
| 23:12.45 | markybob | eyebrowns, personally, yes. about 200 desktops and 15 servers where i work... |
| 23:12.58 | yohnnyjoe | Siente: if that works sure, the way they suggest is just cleaner |
| 23:13.43 | Siente | yohnnyjoe, echo 'export PATH="$PATH:~/.composer/vendor/bin"' >> ~/.bashrc ? |
| 23:13.44 | eyebrowns | markybob, i want to know where peoples use linux? where its popular? |
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| 23:17.03 | markybob | eyebrowns, just about everywhere. i work at a large (four locations) health clinic and we use it |
| 23:17.46 | markybob | eyebrowns, 50/50 odds it's on your phone |
| 23:17.56 | Siente | yohnnyjoe, thank you very much man! |
| 23:18.01 | Siente | goodnight guys see you! |
| 23:18.35 | eyebrowns | markybob, i just seek for work with linux, im not happy to work with windows. im ready to make many solution with linux. |
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| 23:29.35 | ariscop | selinux-policy-default seems to be missing in jessie |
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| 23:36.02 | OUTsider | could it be that the debianized version of exim4 ignores the dns_ipv4_lookup setting ? |
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| 23:37.16 | OUTsider | i added dns_ipv4_lookup='true' in update-exim4.conf.conf, executed update-exim4.conf, restarted exim, and exim -bP dns_ipv4_lookup returns empty |
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| 23:37.55 | OUTsider | oh wait, it's now a domain list |
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| 23:39.37 | OUTsider | and still remains empty |
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| 23:42.04 | jaggzt | how do you "run" a non-executable from commandline (using whatever the os's associated software is)? |
| 23:42.33 | jaggzt | for example, I have a .PDF here and don't remember the names of the assortment of pdf viewers on the system.. |
| 23:42.46 | phy1729 | xdg-open <file> should work |
| 23:42.50 | foul_owl | Hi folks. Anyone have an issue with svgs not displaying properly? I'm having someone vectorize a piece of art for me. They sent it back with a ton of problems, line thickness, etc. Then they sent me a screenshot and it looks like it's not rendering correctly on my Debian 8 system. |
| 23:43.06 | foul_owl | I've tried gimp, inkscape, firefox, and eog and they all have the same issue. |
| 23:43.17 | foul_owl | So at least there is a consistency there |
| 23:43.25 | phy1729 | perhaps the svg itself is the problem then? |
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| 23:44.13 | foul_owl | The svg was exported by adobe illustrator I believe |
| 23:44.32 | foul_owl | How would i tell if the svg itself is the problem, or the svg renderer on debian is the problem? |
| 23:45.15 | foul_owl | Generally I would expect an extremely well used tool like illustrator to not have issues |
| 23:45.28 | foul_owl | Yep, looks like it was exported by illustrator 19.1.0 |
| 23:45.45 | foul_owl | I need a vector format for my art, since it's going on a giant banner |
| 23:46.00 | phy1729 | could try looking at it on another computer |
| 23:46.14 | foul_owl | I only have Debian systems unfortunately |
| 23:46.33 | foul_owl | I mean, Debian is kick ass but unfortunate in this case |
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| 23:49.15 | foul_owl | Let me try my phone actually. Not sure if android can view svgs, but I would imagine it could |
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| 23:51.06 | jaggzt | phy1729, and I'm supposed to remember xdg-open when I can't remember 'okular'? :) |
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| 23:51.25 | jmcnaught | foul_owl: if you can export the file from illustrator again, maybe it has different options. my guess is that all the programs you've tried on Debian adhere more closely to the SVG standard than illustrator (which makes bank on a competing proprietary format) |
| 23:51.39 | phy1729 | you could stick alias open=xdg-open in your shell's rc file |
| 23:51.44 | jaggzt | foul_owl, adobe illustrator's output? |
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| 23:52.05 | jaggzt | phy1729, yup yup.. thanks :) |
| 23:52.07 | foul_owl | jmcnaught: Let me contact the artist and ask him to send me a screenshot of the svg export options |
| 23:52.40 | cusco | hi folks |
| 23:52.43 | jmcnaught | foul_owl: maybe also ask them to confirm it renders properly in firefox ? |
| 23:52.55 | foul_owl | Ah good idea |
| 23:53.01 | cusco | I'm trying to rescue data from a mdadm raid1 partition, and only have one disk |
| 23:53.09 | cusco | I'm reading trough http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72279/how-do-i-recover-files-from-a-single-degraded-mdadm-raid1-drive-not-enough-to |
| 23:53.23 | cusco | it states I should be able tu use offset and mount it as a loop |
| 23:53.41 | cusco | thing is I'm not being able to find out the offset |
| 23:53.52 | cusco | with mdadm --examine |
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