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| 00:15.05 | afx237 | anyone know what the solution to "curl: (7) Failed to connect to example.com port 443: Network is unreachable" is on debian jessie? worked fine on wheezy, and i can access it using any other program on the same box (wget/elinks/lynx etc). it's just a curl issue on jessie |
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| 00:19.27 | iflema | afx237: how does curl work you think - re https? Does the Man page mentio anything about https? |
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| 00:19.51 | afx237 | iflema: its some issue to do with SSLv2 SSLv3 TLS protocols I think |
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| 00:30.07 | afx237 | hmm seems that its trying to use ipv6, that must be the problem |
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| 00:32.17 | afx237 | yep, that was it |
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| 00:46.14 | mintx | harro |
| 00:46.46 | mintx | uh can someone help me with something? |
| 00:46.55 | bazhang | ask and see |
| 00:47.01 | at0m|c | !ask |
| 00:47.01 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:47.33 | mintx | well i installed debian on a hard drive and when i start my pc the bootloader shows up so i highlight debian and press enter |
| 00:47.40 | mintx | and it starts to boot up but stops idk |
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| 00:48.31 | mintx | Do I have to use every disk to install? cause i thought if i just did dvd 1 it should boot |
| 00:48.36 | somiaj | mintx: you will have to give us more info, where does it stop? Are you sure it stops, it could be that xorg is having trouble and it really is running |
| 00:48.59 | somiaj | i.e. 'but stops' doesn't tell us anything, if you see a black screen try hitting ctrl-alt-f1 and see if a standard login console appears. |
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| 00:49.23 | afx237 | i have a question: i have a thing, and it doesn't work. what's wrong with it? |
| 00:49.40 | at0m|c | afx237: good one. |
| 00:49.40 | mintx | Uh hold up I'll write what it says during boot |
| 00:50.15 | mintx | uh I don't need an internet connection to install debian right? |
| 00:50.20 | somiaj | mintx: you do not. |
| 00:50.38 | somiaj | mintx: even if you had the minimial netinstall image you wouldn't need an internet connenction to install (but to install additional software yes) |
| 00:50.52 | somiaj | afx237: it's broken. |
| 00:50.55 | iflema | afx237: hows the wget working? You should have that thing also... |
| 00:51.53 | afx237 | iflema: seems it was just curl trying to use ipv6. everything else worked. i've just disabled ipv6 completely seeing my ISP doesn't support it. |
| 00:54.15 | mintx | ok this is weird its saying reboot and select proper boot device,,, but It was booting into grub earlier |
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| 00:54.55 | afx237 | anyone know of any websites that store mailing list emails, but don't require you to click and load a new page to go through every single post? an interface like reddit would be cool. |
| 00:55.15 | afx237 | as in public mailing lists like debian, kernel, etc |
| 00:55.18 | somiaj | mintx: you said you have multiple drives? Which drive did you install grub to? Was it the same as the drive you are booting from and has debian installed on it? You may have to rescue your isntall by using the installer to chroot your install and fix grub. |
| 00:56.00 | somiaj | afx237: I haven't seen any thing like that, but this will be dependent on the mailing list archive webpage and there won't be some tool that can just view mailing lists this way. |
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| 00:56.16 | mintx | It is just a small hdd i have all of my other ones unplugged, and yes i installed debian on it like just last night |
| 00:56.21 | somiaj | afx237: The closest thing in debian is the bug reports, all the replays are in a single page (: |
| 00:57.03 | somiaj | mintx: I'm unsure what the issue could be. If it isn't booting make sure you have selected the proper boot device, this could have changed when you unpluged things and this is done in the bios. |
| 00:57.40 | mintx | i have done the boot order already its still just saying select proper boot device like theres nothing on the hard drive |
| 00:59.07 | afx237 | somiaj: yeah i assume the actual places that run the mailing lists wouldn't have a decent interface for the most part as the standard tools to operate the lists all seem to have that basic layout you normally see on the web. but there's plenty of sites out there that just contain mirrors of all the posts. was hoping one would have a nice interface though. i might build a site that does it, assuming there's no copyright issues with mirroring public |
| 00:59.07 | afx237 | mailing lists or anything. |
| 00:59.10 | somiaj | !fixmbr |
| 00:59.10 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 00:59.40 | somiaj | mintx: well that is the quick instructions on how to fix grub on the boot device. If it was booting and you did nothing except unplug drives and then it stop booting. Did you happen to install grub on the mbr of another disk? |
| 01:00.51 | somiaj | afx237: I think access the archive database is the hardest part, but I would of course ask first. I just think mailing list have been aroudn a long time and are happy with the archive layout. I wonder if people who use the lists regurally just have a local archive from being on the list. |
| 01:01.00 | mnrmnaugh | somiaj, i either chroot onto the disk, or force grub to a partion i know contians mbr |
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| 01:02.00 | mintx | hold up im going to try to wipe the drive and reinstall debian, will come back if i need your help |
| 01:02.48 | afx237 | somiaj: anyone who actually participates would likely just use their mail client anyway. i'm just thinking of something for people that are browsing old posts on the web and post likely aren't actually signed up (usually coming in from a google search). if i couldn't download all the old posts, I would just sign up for the lists and collect from that day onwards. |
| 01:02.49 | somiaj | mintx: feel free to ask questions during the install if you have anything you need clarified. |
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| 01:03.47 | afx237 | somiaj: although would be pretty easy to scrape from the web |
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| 01:06.25 | mintx | I have another stupid question, Is it possible for me to install drivers I downloaded for debian in another distro? i think the file was like a .deb or something |
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| 01:07.29 | somiaj | mintx: no, you do not want to install .deb that are not made for the version of debian you are using on your system. This is a good way to break your system. |
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| 01:08.12 | somiaj | mintx: what drivers are you worried about. In linux almost all drivers come with the kernel, so it is the kernel version that you should look at for hardware drivers. jessie has 3.16 and will start to back port newer kernels for users who have hardware that need a kernel newer than 3.16 |
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| 01:10.17 | mintx | I have a usb wifi dongle called dlink dwa-130 and i cant find the linux drivers for it, but there was a driver for debian |
| 01:11.11 | somiaj | mintx: when you are in the installer if you can get the actual chipset on that device I can look up if it is supported in debian. |
| 01:11.24 | somiaj | mintx: most likely it just needs firmware, which debian provides via it's non-free repos. |
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| 01:12.09 | mintx | I had gotten the chipset while installing and the installer showed me where to get the firmware for it but i want to know if i can take that same firmware and install it on say linux mint |
| 01:13.06 | somiaj | are you installing debian or mint? We only support debian here. |
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| 01:13.34 | bazhang | what version of mint mintx |
| 01:13.54 | mintx | im installing debian but I just wanted to know if the firmware would work if i ever need it |
| 01:14.02 | somiaj | Mint should provide you with firmware or you can go upstream and get it from the vendor, either way this is not the place to ask how to install firmware on mint. I wouldn't install a package for debian on mint and visa/versa, use the distro's packages and support for the disto you choose to use. |
| 01:14.31 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.34 | somiaj | mintx: firmware is tied to the kernel (thus driver) that is used. It is best to not mix. You will get mixed results, and you could break your system. |
| 01:14.40 | bazhang | mintx, for mint^ |
| 01:15.00 | somiaj | mintx: but if you want to know the prefered way to install said firmware on mint, that is what their support is for. (: |
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| 01:15.40 | mintx | Thanks for your help, also I'm banned from the mint channel so |
| 01:15.45 | mintx | thats why i asked |
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| 01:16.40 | bazhang | that doesnt make this mintsupport |
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| 01:17.16 | mintx | ik jeez calm |
| 01:17.17 | mintx | down |
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| 01:33.11 | GUYwithJessieM8 | hi |
| 01:33.22 | GUYwithJessieM8 | am having a problem with openJDK |
| 01:33.46 | GUYwithJessieM8 | minecraft was running fine until openjdk broke |
| 01:33.54 | GUYwithJessieM8 | and i cant run it |
| 01:34.12 | black | that has nothing to with debian itself though.. |
| 01:34.29 | black | and you need to provide some form of error, so people whom are willing to help, can help. |
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| 01:35.00 | GUYwithJessieM8 | okay |
| 01:35.16 | GUYwithJessieM8 | openjdk is not working in debian anymore |
| 01:35.25 | GUYwithJessieM8 | any idea? |
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| 01:35.39 | black | again, provide some form of the error. |
| 01:35.52 | black | either output of a logfile, or the command you run for minecraft |
| 01:36.16 | GUYwithJessieM8 | i always run it with open with |
| 01:36.32 | GUYwithJessieM8 | but when it got broken |
| 01:36.40 | GUYwithJessieM8 | i tired java -jar |
| 01:36.52 | black | did you do a update and it broke? |
| 01:37.03 | GUYwithJessieM8 | it says Error : unable to access java file minecraft |
| 01:37.04 | black | things just dont break unless you've commited some changes |
| 01:37.17 | black | do you have permissions to the java file? |
| 01:37.20 | black | does it EXIST? |
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| 01:37.31 | GUYwithJessieM8 | nope i didnt do anything |
| 01:37.35 | GUYwithJessieM8 | wait |
| 01:37.58 | GUYwithJessieM8 | i will chmod +x it |
| 01:37.58 | black | 'java -jar minecraft' isnt how you start it. |
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| 01:38.17 | GUYwithJessieM8 | then how ? |
| 01:38.19 | black | java -jar /home/username/minecraft/start.jar' for example is how it should look. |
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| 01:38.40 | GUYwithJessieM8 | but i opened the console at that location |
| 01:38.43 | black | you need to either start it with an absolute path, or within the folder its stored in |
| 01:38.49 | black | ok |
| 01:38.57 | black | did you select the ACTUAL .jar file? |
| 01:39.08 | black | or just: java -jar minecraft ? |
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| 01:39.56 | DrDisconsented | If your CLI session is in the same directory that MC is in 'java -jar minecraft.jar' does work |
| 01:40.20 | black | GUYwithJessieM8: ^ |
| 01:41.08 | DrDisconsented | However you should be including a bunch of flags relating to memory. At the very least you should be speficying -Xmx and -server |
| 01:42.03 | DrDisconsented | Depending on what you're doing you may need to increase the permgen |
| 01:42.08 | DrDisconsented | and he left |
| 01:42.23 | black | i bet he got it working |
| 01:42.37 | black | i honestly hate java, and minecraft so i was just about to say to hell with it :P |
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| 01:42.57 | DrDisconsented | Its not that bad |
| 01:43.05 | DrDisconsented | Until you get into non vanilla server stuff |
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| 01:43.07 | dvs | too blocky! |
| 01:43.22 | black | the game serves no purpose.. |
| 01:43.32 | DrDisconsented | Wrong |
| 01:43.35 | DrDisconsented | Entertainment :P |
| 01:43.37 | black | build a world, then what? |
| 01:43.50 | dvs | get the dynamite |
| 01:43.55 | DrDisconsented | Also "Sandbox" |
| 01:44.07 | black | I'll read a book, at least theres a purpose in that. |
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| 01:44.28 | black | Anywho fellas, laters. |
| 01:44.40 | dvs | o/ |
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| 02:17.18 | shibly | Can anyone tell how to stop lock screen ? |
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| 02:32.16 | smw_ | Hi all, I have a kindle and when I plug it is automatically mounted as a vfat file system. However, it is owned by root. Is there any way to force it to be writable by my user? |
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| 02:32.28 | smw_ | I am running gnome if that matters. I think gnome is doing the automounting |
| 02:33.14 | smw_ | I don't understand what is doing the automounting so I have no idea how to fix it. |
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| 02:33.30 | Equa | smw_: sudo chown youruser:yourgroup device |
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| 02:34.21 | smw_ | Equa, what happens when I unplug it and plug it back in? |
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| 02:34.44 | smw_ | Equa, what if another user is on the machine? I really just want to force the "user" option but I am unsure how. |
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| 02:35.53 | Equa | smw_: is the user in the dev group? mount it with the user |
| 02:36.18 | Equa | smw_: it's plugdev |
| 02:36.29 | smw_ | I am in the plugdev group |
| 02:36.46 | smw_ | Equa, it is being mounted when I plug it in, and I can unmount it, but I can't write to it |
| 02:37.25 | somiaj | smw_: what is the filesystem on the drive? |
| 02:37.31 | smw_ | vfat |
| 02:37.49 | smw_ | Equa, from a non-power user perspective, I plug it in, "kindle" becomes an option in the file manager, I can browse, I can unmount |
| 02:37.55 | smw_ | I can't write :-\ |
| 02:38.06 | somiaj | smw_: yea you will have to configure the automounter to set the uid and gid you want or even just set the permissions to 777, those are the only choices you have. |
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| 02:38.25 | smw_ | somiaj, sounds great, who is the automounter? |
| 02:38.57 | llimeht_ | does gnome really not get this right on its own? |
| 02:39.11 | somiaj | smw_: actually you may want to check 'dmesg' first and make sure the mount not mounting read-only due to a setting on the devie |
| 02:39.14 | smw_ | llimeht, not for me at the moment |
| 02:39.26 | smw_ | somiaj, well, I can move stuff as root |
| 02:39.30 | somiaj | smw_: I really don't know, I don't use automounter. but if you can get the device name you can unmount it then manually mount it. |
| 02:39.52 | smw_ | somiaj, yeah, at that point, I just use sudo cp :-) |
| 02:40.06 | smw_ | somiaj, my goal is to fix this once and get use of gui! |
| 02:40.20 | llimeht | gnome-disk-utility â udisks2 |
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| 02:41.35 | llimeht | Do you have this already configured in /etc/fstab? |
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| 02:41.40 | smw_ | llimeht, not sure what you are saying |
| 02:41.49 | smw_ | no, I don't have an fstab entry |
| 02:42.01 | smw_ | how would I get a UUID to add it? |
| 02:42.15 | Equa | smw_: sudo blkid |
| 02:42.23 | llimeht | You shouldn't need to but if you do it overrides the automounter's behaviour and that's normally the problem |
| 02:42.37 | llimeht | Q "who is the automounter?" A: gnome-disk-utility asks udisks2 to do it |
| 02:42.56 | smw_ | llimeht, ah, got it |
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| 02:44.08 | smw_ | what I would really like is to get to the bottom of what is going wrong and fix it permanently. Barring that, get my kindle to work as I move books to it all the time. |
| 02:44.24 | smw_ | I will do a bit more digging, then give up and fstab it by uuid |
| 02:44.47 | llimeht | udisksctl is able to give lots of diagnostics on this. |
| 02:45.09 | smw_ | llimeht, yeah, just found that |
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| 02:46.56 | smw_ | llimeht, in case you are interested: https://gist.github.com/stephenmw/b2351ae4bef3978a4380 |
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| 02:49.29 | llimeht | smw_: are you *sure* you don't have an entry in fstab for it? udisks seems to think you do |
| 02:49.44 | llimeht | (line 63) |
| 02:50.11 | smw_ | um... no idea how that got there |
| 02:50.18 | llimeht | win! |
| 02:51.29 | smw_ | llimeht, ok, you officially win. Thanks a ton :-D |
| 02:51.35 | smw_ | wonders how that got there |
| 02:51.44 | llimeht | np |
| 02:52.47 | smw_ | llimeht, well, I learned a lot about disk mounting :-D |
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| 03:10.59 | mnrmnaugh | so.... i have a patch id like to apply to libreadline. im used to doing this kinda thing on arch/slackware. and my halfass attempts of just copying those over/trying what the build scripts dump out both result in awk spouting undefined symbol errors. what is the correct way to apply a patch to libreadline.6.3 on jessie? |
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| 03:16.25 | llimeht | !package recompile |
| 03:16.26 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
| 03:16.50 | mnrmnaugh | niiiiiccee. ty llimeht |
| 03:17.24 | llimeht | if it's a patch that will just apply cleanly, then you might be able to just add it to the series in debian/patches |
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| 03:18.50 | mnrmnaugh | its pretty small. it adds some stuff to vi-mode's show-mode-in-prompt like moveing/coloring it |
| 03:19.43 | llimeht | you'll find out soon enough if it applies cleanly... if it doesn't then you'll have to fiddle with quilt to import the patch into the series properly |
| 03:20.06 | llimeht | !debsrc3.0 |
| 03:20.07 | dpkg | Rather than having a long set of diffs containing the changelog and any Debian-specific patches to a package in a <diff.gz>, source packages may have a <debian.tar.gz> file instead. See http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 for more information on how to work with the 3.0 source format. See also <policy> <nmg> <source package> <quilt>. |
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| 05:37.06 | Zipf | Hi, new user here, ive updated my box few days ago from squeezy to wheezy, everything is fine, im just not sure how to do not use that activities menu, how can i set the old style menu ? like http://puu.sh/iJXfk/d8e2ff8c39.jpg |
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| 05:45.28 | ryouma | why do i sometimes have xfs and jfs processes even though i do not use those? |
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| 05:46.25 | maziar | after i change setting on sysctl.conf at debian jessie , should i restart any service? or should i reboot server ? |
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| 06:04.34 | syntroPi | i have a jessie vserver and a qemu vm which i want to keep in sync with duplicity: after performing a full restore to the vm: which files woud i have to change to get a running system? /etc/fstab the uuid's? |
| 06:05.10 | black | sounds about right |
| 06:05.45 | syntroPi | is that everything i should expect to change? |
| 06:06.07 | black | yeah |
| 06:06.20 | black | or you can drop the uuid/s and use the actual /dev/sd# |
| 06:06.22 | shay_shay | might need to delete persistent net rules |
| 06:06.30 | syntroPi | is there a way to "set" the uuid of the vm disk to the same as the vserver's? |
| 06:06.45 | black | he wont need too, it will generate new ones, just causing wlan0 to become wlan1 and so on |
| 06:06.51 | black | not sure syntroPi |
| 06:08.19 | syntroPi | hmm it seems one can change the uuid of a disk like "tune2fs /dev/sde5 -U f0acce91-a416-474c-8a8c-43f3ed3768f9" |
| 06:09.06 | syntroPi | question would be: are they choosen completely randomly or would i break stuff when i just write on my vm the vserver's uuid? |
| 06:09.11 | shay_shay | black: if you wanted it to stay eth0 which I assume others do because I do |
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| 06:09.43 | black | depends on how anal the person is |
| 06:09.46 | black | im on wlan9.. |
| 06:10.42 | syntroPi | and id neet to chroot.. grub-install probably |
| 06:10.50 | syntroPi | *need |
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| 06:11.02 | black | now thats one thing im not sure of syntroPi |
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| 06:11.27 | shibly | Where is to put the file in /var/www/ ? |
| 06:11.38 | shibly | in /var/www/html/ ? or in /var/www/ ? |
| 06:12.28 | BuzzBuzzard | default or not, the choice is yours |
| 06:13.32 | black | its /var/www/html |
| 06:13.35 | Equa | shibly: in /var/www/html |
| 06:13.51 | black | in for the win! GO ME! |
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| 06:15.01 | shibly | Equa: Then how to hit url in browser ? http://localhost ?? or do i have to add virtualhost ? |
| 06:15.26 | Equa | shibly: it's enabled by default on your virtual host. yes just visit http://localhost |
| 06:15.42 | BuzzBuzzard | 127.0.0.1 |
| 06:16.00 | Equa | shibly: oh change your local host to match. i can give you a sample. let me make one |
| 06:16.13 | Equa | shibly: *virtualhost |
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| 06:18.07 | shibly | Equa: I will be back |
| 06:18.27 | ryouma | is it normal for kernel xfs and jfs processes even though i do not use those? |
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| 06:22.34 | BuzzBuzzard | XFS is a high-performance 64-bit journaling file system created by Silicon Graphics, Inc (SGI) in 1993 |
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| 06:23.28 | shibly | Equa: Hi, did you do virtualhost ? |
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| 06:23.59 | Equa | shibly: http://paste.debian.net/278763/ |
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| 06:27.17 | syntroPi | "grub-install /dev/vdb": Installing for i386-pc platform. ahm i have x86_64 system? is that correct "i386"? |
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| 06:30.07 | syntroPi | oh ok its "bios" systems |
| 06:30.19 | shibly | Equa: How did you hit the url? |
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| 06:30.36 | shibly | Equa: Did you put the website in /var/www/html/ ? |
| 06:30.42 | Equa | shibly: just do http://localhost |
| 06:31.17 | Equa | shibly: look in /var/log/apache2/error.log if you can't visit it |
| 06:32.15 | shibly | Equa: http://localhost/ i got "Apache2 Debian Default Page" |
| 06:32.24 | shibly | It's debian jessie |
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| 06:32.50 | Equa | shibly: yes. they put an index.html in there for you. replace it with your files |
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| 06:34.08 | ryouma | BuzzBuzzard: bot? i am just wondering why the kernel seems to sometimes have those processes |
| 06:35.15 | BuzzBuzzard | xfs is normal according to what google says for linux |
| 06:35.31 | syntroPi | lol dangit ofc i got uuid trouble... |
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| 06:39.55 | syntroPi | how can i mount a disc from rescue console? mount /dev/vda1 /mnt yields "no such file or directory"??? Ahm BOTH the device and the target exist.. confused |
| 06:40.43 | Equa | syntroPi: make a directory for it and do mount device /path/to/directory |
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| 06:41.00 | syntroPi | yup thats what i tried first: same result |
| 06:41.22 | Equa | syntroPi: fdisk -l make sure you have the correct device |
| 06:41.29 | syntroPi | would be nice to know WHICH file it claims does not exist |
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| 06:41.51 | ikerDePount | Hello |
| 06:43.08 | ikerDePount | I've just installed jessie but my bluetooth don't work. I've HP ProBook 4240s. |
| 06:43.24 | BuzzBuzzard | so does apache come preinstalled on jessie lxde desktop? because i get a webpage at http://localhost and i dont remember installing it already |
| 06:43.39 | Equa | BuzzBuzzard: it does not |
| 06:43.41 | syntroPi | lol rescue console is useless it wont even poweroff so i have to pull the plug |
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| 06:44.28 | BuzzBuzzard | maybe something had it as a dependancy the, oh yes i intalled a ping tester that needed that i think |
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| 06:45.14 | BuzzBuzzard | i wanted to make graphs of ping times |
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| 06:53.25 | syntroPi | are uuid's bound to a disk?? it seems they keep changing depending on how the disk is mounted... |
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| 06:54.08 | syntroPi | i.e. i see blkid lists ANOTHER uuid when i have it mounted from my rescue system than the actual boot process sees?? |
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| 06:55.40 | Equa | syntroPi: uuid does not change hence it's the recommended method |
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| 06:58.04 | syntroPi | well here they do |
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| 07:02.20 | syntroPi | aaah i think its in the initramfs... probably need to update that in the chroot |
| 07:03.07 | clu3l3ss | hi there. can anyone help me out mounting my usb stick in gparted live cd? |
| 07:03.13 | soundtoxin | Any of you guys have experience installing Debian on a MacBook? The usual flashdrive I use to install Debian isn't showing up in the Mac's EFI bootmenu thing. I just used dd to make it. |
| 07:03.13 | clu3l3ss | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.19 | clu3l3ss | works but still cant write to it |
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| 07:13.36 | clu3l3ss | anyone? |
| 07:13.45 | syntroPi | hmm where does debian store its uuid's? i changed /etc/fstab and ran "update-initramfs -k all -u" |
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| 07:14.07 | syntroPi | still get the error about no such device ... uuid... |
| 07:14.40 | syntroPi | update-initramfs in the chroot ofc |
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| 07:32.44 | syntroPi | how would i adjust the uuid of jessie on a mounted drive? |
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| 07:35.22 | syntroPi | i have the disk mounted on the restore system via fstab: now i take that uuid and update the offline fstab in that disk right? then i did chroot into the mountpoint of that disk and update-initramfs from there |
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| 07:35.40 | soundtoxin | syntroPi: run sudo blkid to see uuids of devices |
| 07:35.46 | soundtoxin | and fstab is where you set them |
| 07:35.56 | syntroPi | soundtoxin, yes thats what i did |
| 07:36.03 | soundtoxin | oh okay |
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| 07:36.24 | syntroPi | the disk appears with another uuid when i run blkid on a) the restore system and b) the initramfs rescue shell |
| 07:36.48 | syntroPi | also itried to put /dev/vda1 in fstab |
| 07:37.11 | syntroPi | but even after update-initramfs in the chroot it complains about missing uuid |
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| 07:42.14 | syntroPi | do UUID's depend on where a disk appears? e.g. same disk image UUID(/dev/vda1) !== UUID(/dev/vdb1) ? |
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| 07:53.04 | somiaj | syntroPi: UUID is part of the filesystem, so if you do a dicrect copy of the whole filesystem it will copy the UUID. |
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| 07:53.21 | somiaj | syntroPi: there are also uniquie ID"s for partitions, but those are different |
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| 07:53.52 | syntroPi | somiaj, i have a duplicity backup which i restored so i did not cope the fs but the files on it |
| 07:54.26 | somiaj | syntroPi: yea if you create a new fs you will get a new UUID, though you can use fs tools to set the UUID to what you want |
| 07:54.45 | syntroPi | i want to get that running again but i just see a error about "no such device" uuid ... then i land in the rescure shell... but i dont recognice that uuid at all its none of my disks |
| 07:55.24 | syntroPi | somiaj, can i set the uuid like "tune2fs /dev/sde5 -U f0acce91-a416-474c-8a8c-43f3ed3768f9" |
| 07:55.37 | syntroPi | without causing any confusion? |
| 07:55.38 | somiaj | syntroPi: I belive so, I forget the exact syntax to set it though. |
| 07:55.47 | syntroPi | id like to avoid this NIGHTMARE in future |
| 07:56.08 | somiaj | I think if you clone the whole filesystem, disk image it would work |
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| 07:57.12 | syntroPi | hmm yeah but i keep the duplicity backups on a webdav somewhere |
| 07:57.30 | somiaj | then you will have to adjust uuid's when you restore |
| 07:57.45 | syntroPi | i could clone the whole fs but id like to just use those backups to sync from vserver -> local vm |
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| 07:58.18 | syntroPi | somiaj, how would i adjust them? |
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| 07:59.36 | somiaj | syntroPi: either edit the fstab file of the system to match the new uuid, restore to the exact same filesystem so the uuid wouldn't change, or I belive tunetfs should work |
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| 08:01.16 | syntroPi | somiaj, just adjusting fstab does not seem to be sufficient (idk why), the binary clone is not the way i want to have it setup, well i think then i have to try tune2fs |
| 08:01.54 | somiaj | syntroPi: I'm unsure of your full setup, but it should be. |
| 08:02.46 | syntroPi | i really should have stayed away from uuid's in the first place... would i just have /dev/vda1 in there it should have worked without any trouble |
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| 08:05.45 | somiaj | syntroPi: is this grub that is failing to find the uuid, in this case you'll have to edit how grub boots. This is different than fstab which is used for mounting |
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| 08:07.04 | valdyn | syntroPi: the uuid is *always* stored on the block device, its static till you change it |
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| 08:35.16 | strk | apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 # fails from wheezy |
| 08:35.27 | strk | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "stop" failed. |
| 08:35.29 | syntroPi | somiaj, wow adjusting the uuid with tune2fs worked like a charm, plus now i would not have to worry about it when pulling from my backups :) |
| 08:36.06 | syntroPi | a pitty that debian spreads the uuid around in the whole system so the user cant adjust it properly... |
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| 08:36.36 | somiaj | syntroPi: that is not debian. A uuid is created when a filesystem is created, and that file system keeps it until it is changed. You create a new filesystem, you get a new uuid. |
| 08:36.57 | somiaj | syntroPi: that is how uuid's work. fstab uses uuid to mount things at boot, grub uses uuid to find the root filesystem. |
| 08:37.11 | somiaj | ,v mysql-server-5.5 |
| 08:37.12 | judd | Package: mysql-server-5.5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.40-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.43-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.43-0+deb7u1; jessie-security: 5.5.43-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.5.43-0+deb8u1; jessie: 5.5.43-0+deb8u1; stretch: 5.5.43-0+deb8u1 |
| 08:37.51 | syntroPi | somiaj, yeah but debian takes those uuid values and stores then in several places (fstab, maybe initramfs, grub files and whatnot??). that makes it almost impossible to change after installation |
| 08:38.31 | strk | somiaj: was that for me ? |
| 08:38.31 | syntroPi | having it to change in the fs defeats the whole idea of having an _unique_ id... |
| 08:38.43 | strk | what I'm prompted for install is mysql-server-5.5_5.5.43-0+deb7u1_amd64.deb |
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| 08:40.48 | somiaj | strk: I was just making sure it was a wheezy package. Unsure what the issue is, you could edit the postinstall script located in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5-5.*, and comment out the line that is trying to stop the server and is failing. |
| 08:41.38 | somiaj | syntroPi: a UUID is a unique ID assoicated with the filesystem, if you change the filesystem you will have to change the UUID. There are also unique id's assoicated with a partition. |
| 08:42.54 | strk | invoke-rc.d mysql stop # indeed it fails |
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| 08:43.59 | somiaj | strk: or you could figure out what is wrong with the script. Another thing you could od is put 'exit 0' at the top of the /etc/init.d/ script so that doesn't fail, (: |
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| 08:45.12 | strk | might be due to error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
| 08:45.32 | strk | I've used name/password found in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 08:45.41 | strk | but I dont' remember having set them myself, really |
| 08:45.55 | somiaj | strk: could have been from a previous install? |
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| 08:46.33 | strk | fixing those name/password fixes the stop command |
| 08:46.36 | strk | could be, yes |
| 08:49.57 | strk | now "start" doesn't start as it says it's already running... |
| 08:50.23 | strk | oh, that's correct |
| 08:52.00 | strk | alright, dist-upgrade time, how do I 'unlock' it ? (because right now it just says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.) |
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| 08:52.34 | strk | ah, forgiv me, will follow instructions :) -- need to update sources.lits |
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| 10:09.28 | problame | Hi, I have found a bug in the sd_journal API which is described in the RedHat Bugtracker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=979487 Should I re-open an issue there or rather create a new one in the Debian tracker? |
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| 10:10.36 | SynrG | problame: if your problem is being experienced on a debian system, and there is no debian bug, definitely file a debian bug with reportbug, xreffing any other bugs as needed to give background. |
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| 10:11.21 | problame | Would this pane be the right place to file the bug on Debian? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=libsystemd-journal-dev |
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| 10:12.31 | SynrG | the -dev package contains only the headers. it is not the headers that cause the bug, presumably ... |
| 10:13.52 | SynrG | ,v systemd |
| 10:13.55 | judd | Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u1; stretch: 221-1; sid: 221-1 |
| 10:14.27 | SynrG | problame: as i understand it, the claim in the bug is that a particular API call, in and of itself, does not work, and that another call needs to be added as a workaround, and that a later version of systemd fixes the issue. |
| 10:14.48 | SynrG | problame: so the problem isn't "a bug in the API", but a bug in systemd, with a workaround given in the example |
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| 10:15.03 | problame | There is a person reporting the bug for systemd 214. Jessie is on 215, where I am experiencing the same issue |
| 10:15.30 | mizo | i'm trying to build kde frameworks in debian, and i'm getting an error for khtml: http://pastebin.com/C1vNGc7M |
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| 10:16.34 | SynrG | problame: so i would file the bug on systemd, if there is not one already, and xref this old RH bug |
| 10:17.28 | SynrG | problame: incidentally, the RH response is that F20 is EOL. what version of systemd is in current releases of Fedora? |
| 10:17.35 | Amun_Ra | mizo: apt-cache search KF5IconThemes (you need -dev pkg) |
| 10:17.58 | SynrG | problame: presumably the bug was closed because it isn't reproducible in current versions? |
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| 10:18.51 | problame | from what i can tell: it looks like it got lost and was closed automatically. the message looks rather generic |
| 10:19.07 | SynrG | yeah. the filer failed to reproduce it in a non-EOL version |
| 10:19.13 | problame | current fedora is on 219 |
| 10:19.37 | problame | Or the finder did forget about it. |
| 10:19.44 | SynrG | same thing |
| 10:19.58 | SynrG | failed to reproduce (didn't even try) |
| 10:20.46 | SynrG | problame: you could look at freedesktop.org. presumably a tracker there for systemd ... |
| 10:20.48 | mizo | thanks Amun_Ra; i'm also getting an error for KAuth (cmake succeeds but makes fails?) http://pastebin.com/QaJxbd95 |
| 10:20.53 | SynrG | see if you can find this issue |
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| 10:21.07 | problame | nope, they reference the distributions' bugtrackers |
| 10:21.13 | SynrG | reopening the issue on fedora is not appropriate unless you're experiencing the bug in fedora |
| 10:21.27 | SynrG | which is OT for here in any case |
| 10:21.55 | SynrG | oh, they don't have a separate tracker? |
| 10:21.57 | SynrG | bluh |
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| 10:22.15 | problame | I guess RH is closer to upstream. I'll try if i can reproduce the bug on fedora and file at RH then |
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| 10:22.35 | SynrG | they *do* have a separate tracker |
| 10:22.56 | SynrG | apt-cache show systemd |
| 10:23.00 | SynrG | Homepage: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd |
| 10:23.23 | SynrG | right before the list of distribution trackers, a link to tracker at github |
| 10:23.42 | SynrG | it's the very first thing under "Bug Reports". can't miss it :) |
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| 10:25.05 | problame | apt-cache show systemd doesn't do show any bugtracker on my machine but I found the tracker -,- |
| 10:25.21 | SynrG | problame: umm. as i said ... |
| 10:25.44 | SynrG | it shows the link i gave above, in the "Homepage" field |
| 10:25.58 | SynrG | and under that "Bug Reports", so it is trivial to find their tracker |
| 10:26.06 | SynrG | that's how i typically find it |
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| 10:34.49 | mizo | i'm getting this error when trying to build kde frameworks (fails for kauth): http://pastebin.com/QaJxbd95 |
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| 10:44.07 | mizo | nvm giving up :( are there binary packages for kde frameworks on debian? |
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| 10:53.58 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 10:55.29 | mizo | i saw that some people were discussing kf5 coming to debian unstable soon so i guess the answer is 'soon' |
| 10:55.50 | BluesKaj | ugh! |
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| 10:57.03 | BluesKaj | installed jessie to get back to a desktop that I prefer, plasma4/kde4 |
| 10:57.06 | Penix | yep |
| 10:57.09 | Penix | oops |
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| 10:58.56 | mizo | BluesKaj: do you know an easy way to get plasma5 (particularly kate)? i tried building kde frameworks from source but i gave up; or should i just wait for the packages? |
| 11:00.43 | themill | waiting for (a) packages (b) it to mature sounds like a better plan |
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| 11:02.46 | Kajika | sorry to ask here (but #kde seems dead) : is there any way to switch to superuser? I'm trying to edit a file and i cannot launch kate in su (kate: cannot connect to X server :0 |
| 11:02.46 | Kajika | ) |
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| 11:03.50 | at0m|c | Kajika: try kdesu kate. or nano. |
| 11:03.53 | phogg | Kajika: kdesu, if it still exists, or change X connection permissions |
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| 11:04.59 | BluesKaj | mizo, http://media-opensource.blogspot.com/2015/01/kde-plasma-520-is-out-you-can-install.html , I'm not personally impressed with plasma5/KF5 due to loss of some of my favourite features |
| 11:05.33 | Kajika | no kdesu here (of course i'm on kde) and nano isn't kate sadly |
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| 11:05.36 | BluesKaj | mizo, i usually run Kubuntu |
| 11:06.27 | mizo | BluesKaj: yes you have to build it yourself; it was a pain i had too many errors so i gave up |
| 11:06.28 | Kajika | i have ran kde 3,4 and now 5 and i have never ever had kdesu, i don't dont this command much but it''s very frustated to hear about something wich isn't installed on vanilla debian/kde |
| 11:06.46 | mizo | i'll just wait for the packages i guess |
| 11:07.01 | Kajika | before kde had a button to switch to superuser mode, window had a red border... great time |
| 11:08.10 | BluesKaj | mizo, it was available in the kubuntu ppa repos and I've been testing it on kubuntu 15.10 for a while now and I'm bored with it.. |
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| 11:08.47 | mizo | BluesKaj: the only reason for which i wanted to try: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56958 :D |
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| 11:13.28 | MrmacHD | hi |
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| 11:13.33 | BluesKaj | Kajika, I installed sudo, works for me because I'm used to it on kubuntu |
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| 11:13.41 | MrmacHD | how to install kde from mounted cd on jessie? |
| 11:15.16 | MrmacHD | cd in question: debian-8.1.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 11:17.03 | MrmacHD | nm |
| 11:17.43 | BluesKaj | MrmacHD, https://wiki.debian.org/KDE |
| 11:20.04 | Kajika | installing sudo is as weird as installing debian on a debian, i can already sudo |
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| 11:20.33 | BluesKaj | then try kdesudo |
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| 11:22.44 | alfiepates | guuys... i had a dream that debian was cancelled |
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| 11:23.10 | BluesKaj | a nightmare then , not a dream :-) |
| 11:23.22 | alfiepates | i was like "oh shit i need to find a new distro" |
| 11:23.33 | alfiepates | i tried OpenSUSE but didn't like it, so settled on fedora |
| 11:23.41 | alfiepates | i think i'm a little too invested in this whole linux thing |
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| 11:26.10 | BluesKaj | alfiepates, it's better than being "invested" in windows |
| 11:26.20 | Kajika | can't tell the difference between linux distro... don't have time to test them (it's so non user friendly it needs hours to learn, i just learn how to move icons in KDE 5 because drag would have been to obvious) |
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| 11:28.41 | zykotick9 | Kajika: "*nix Is User Friendly. It's Just Selective About Who Its Friends Are" |
| 11:30.14 | aphorise | I've installed Jessie on dual boot drive with Windows on seperate partition - but how comes I have the process "C:\windows\system32\explorer.exe /desktop" - whats this? |
| 11:30.30 | valdyn | aphorise: thats wine |
| 11:30.54 | aphorise | valdyn it comes with desktop install? - whats it for? |
| 11:31.12 | valdyn | !wine |
| 11:31.12 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . http://wiki.winehq.org/HowTo http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
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| 11:33.45 | aphorise | oh right I think it comes with the TeamViewer appliation that I installed |
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| 11:35.07 | Otyugh | hey there. If someone is familiar with podget. Is there a way to do a "dry run" to just not download the 30Go of podcast that is available in each feed ? |
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| 11:37.48 | CryptoSiD | Hi i just updated my debian and now eth1 is named enp2s11, how do i move back to eth* |
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| 11:39.30 | alfiepates | CryptoSiD: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ scroll down to the bottom. I would not advise it, however |
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| 11:41.26 | randomuser123 | in live builds, what does the firmware.chroot file change? |
| 11:41.30 | CryptoSiD | I don't have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules |
| 11:41.40 | CryptoSiD | I only have /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 11:42.34 | CryptoSiD | and in 70-persistent-net.rules its eth* |
| 11:43.03 | CryptoSiD | well it only list eth0, not eth1 (eth1 is now enp2s11 tho) |
| 11:43.06 | alfiepates | CryptoSiD: first answer here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/81834/how-can-i-change-the-default-ens33-network-device-to-old-eth0-on-fedora-19 |
| 11:43.13 | alfiepates | i really wouldn't advise it, however |
| 11:43.23 | alfiepates | the network naming behaviour was changed for a reason |
| 11:43.49 | CryptoSiD | for what reason? |
| 11:45.07 | alfiepates | fully predictable interface names, stable interface names across reboots/hardware changes/kernel updates |
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| 11:47.10 | CryptoSiD | Guess I'll get used to it |
| 11:47.20 | CryptoSiD | but, eth0 is still eth0 why? |
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| 11:47.31 | CryptoSiD | only eth1 changed to enp2s11 |
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| 11:48.48 | CryptoSiD | I just wasted 1 hours trying to bring eth1 up, keep getting "no such device" |
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| 11:49.00 | CryptoSiD | finally did "ifconfig -a" and understood:D |
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| 11:50.50 | Equa | CryptoSiD: enp2 sounds like you're on arch linux |
| 11:51.09 | Otyugh | Hey all. I wonder why debian is still using eth0/ethX when it is kind of "obsolete" because of its unpredicatbility on reboot (eth0 and eth1 could switch) |
| 11:51.59 | pyface | got to get it up before you can touch and fsck |
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| 11:52.14 | CryptoSiD | I'm not on arch linux lol, never even tryed Arch, im stuck to debian |
| 11:52.26 | CryptoSiD | its because eth0 was in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 11:53.49 | themill | Otyugh: they're not unpredictable |
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| 11:54.14 | Otyugh | themill: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ |
| 11:54.36 | themill | Otyugh: what of it? (I know the document well) |
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| 11:55.45 | Otyugh | themill: well if you know it, it say "lassic, unpredictable kernel-native ethX naming (example: eth0)" |
| 11:56.19 | themill | except that debian doesn't use the kernel-native ethX naming. The devices are renamed predictably by udev |
| 11:56.43 | Otyugh | how can udev do that ? |
| 11:56.53 | themill | !70 |
| 11:56.53 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, edit this file to change the mappings. To apply changes: «udevadm trigger» or reload the relevant driver module. See also <udev>. |
| 11:57.45 | Otyugh | For a longer time udev shipped support for assigning permanent "ethX" names to certain interfaces based on their MAC addresses. This turned out to have a multitude of problems ? |
| 11:57.46 | themill | (debian has been doing this for 6 or 7 years at least... I've lost count) |
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| 11:58.03 | Otyugh | right ? |
| 11:58.15 | themill | there's a race condition in there that occasionally bites. For 99.99â¦% of people the multitude of problems doesn't exist. |
| 11:58.31 | themill | That said, stretch is likely to change to this new style of naming soon |
| 11:58.51 | Otyugh | well this is actually what I wanted to know. Thanks ! o/ |
| 11:58.52 | brainwash | from the debian changelog for systemd 220-7: "Switch to net.ifnames persistent network interfaces ..." |
| 11:59.13 | themill | Otyugh: maybe ask your actual question rather than posing it like someone who is trolling next time :) |
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| 11:59.49 | Otyugh | Meh. Trolling ? é_è |
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| 12:09.09 | strk | while upgrading from wheezy to jessie I got the udav error also reported here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/12/msg01228.html |
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| 12:09.38 | strk | I wanted to take the safe path by upgrading the kernel at the same time, but I'm not sure how to do it |
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| 12:11.20 | strk | attempts to install the kernel tell me |
| 12:11.44 | strk | (linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64) linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 : Depends: linux-base (>= 3~) but it is not going to be installed |
| 12:11.47 | strk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.50 | strk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.53 | strk | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). |
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| 12:12.40 | themill | strk: can you try "aptitude install linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64" |
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| 12:15.17 | themill | (please put the command and full output into a paste.debian.net) |
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| 12:19.37 | strk | sorry, I continued by touching /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade |
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| 12:19.55 | strk | and now installing 'linux-image-amd64" |
| 12:19.59 | strk | in the hope things will be fine at that point |
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| 12:27.38 | shibly | Hello, Why isn't there any desktop for jessie ? |
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| 12:28.07 | Amun_Ra | there is |
| 12:28.15 | shibly | I have to minimize all application window |
| 12:28.27 | shibly | What is the shortcut for desktop ? |
| 12:28.30 | shibly | Amun_Ra: ^ |
| 12:29.14 | Amun_Ra | shibly: oh, you mean the shortcut, that viaries from wm to wm |
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| 12:30.42 | shibly | It is gnome-classic on jessie |
| 12:31.03 | shibly | Amun_Ra: What desktop environment do you use? |
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| 12:32.14 | Amun_Ra | shibly: gnome, and I change the default shortcut to win+d |
| 12:32.59 | shibly | Amun_Ra: How did you change? What was the default ? |
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| 12:35.09 | Amun_Ra | I don't remember the default |
| 12:35.17 | shibly | How did you change? |
| 12:36.31 | Amun_Ra | shibly: http://bfy.tw/eZM ;> |
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| 12:44.18 | mioso | i'm using debian unstable, and kde network manager doesn't appear in the system tray anymore; how can i fix that? |
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| 12:46.52 | zykotick9 | mioso: for sid support you might want to try the #debian-next channel on OFTC |
| 12:47.12 | mioso | zykotick9: i tried :( |
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| 12:50.47 | Amun_Ra | mioso: check if there was something removed during update |
| 12:51.40 | mioso | not sure if it's related, but i also tried to install kde frameworks 5 and gave up; now when i start bash i get "bash: :/plugins:/home/dbl/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/: No such file or directory" |
| 12:51.49 | mioso | Amun_Ra: network-manager-kde is installed |
| 12:52.33 | Amun_Ra | I can't help much, I'm using sid + gnome |
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| 12:53.41 | mioso | np |
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| 13:08.06 | srg | I'm running debian stable amd64. How big is my "memory page" ? 4k or 8k? (I'm configuring an application that says the default setting is based on the platform) |
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| 13:10.16 | DebianJessieUser | hi |
| 13:10.43 | DebianJessieUser | i got a problem running postal 2 share the pain |
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| 13:11.27 | DebianJessieUser | here is what it said |
| 13:11.42 | DebianJessieUser | http://paste.debian.net/278933/ |
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| 13:14.41 | DebianJessieUser | any help |
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| 13:18.38 | jelly | srg: why does your application care? You probably have 4KiB and 2MiB sized pages (look at /proc/meminfo) |
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| 13:19.24 | srg | jelly: it's nginx, i was setting up the fastcgi buffers. i figured it out, i just wrote a quick c program to printf getpagesize() |
| 13:19.26 | srg | thanks! |
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| 13:24.06 | nebbia_ | why when i run lspci -k i see my video card but no driver associated ? |
| 13:24.19 | nebbia_ | something let me think i'm not using it although i installed bumblebee |
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| 13:27.17 | at0m|c | nebbia_: you need to "optirun app" to let an app use the nvidia |
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| 13:28.05 | at0m|c | nebbia_: by default app will use the default gfx card (intel?) |
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| 13:43.18 | streulma | hello who knows the X205 Asus netbook ? |
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| 13:44.48 | at0m|c | !anyone |
| 13:44.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 13:45.43 | streulma | I does not use the word anyone :) |
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| 13:46.57 | at0m|c | and you're not getting any answers for not asking specifics either |
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| 13:49.01 | micechal_ | "Need to get 210 MB/212 MB of archives." what is this supposed to mean? |
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| 13:49.53 | hexnewbie | micechal_: 2 MB are already downloaded? |
| 13:50.05 | micechal_ | hexnewbie: but why would they be? |
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| 13:50.55 | hexnewbie | micechal_: You've downloaded/installed them before, or tried to, or you have automatic download of updates enabled. On the top of my head |
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| 13:51.54 | micechal_ | thanks |
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| 14:19.19 | jdahm | Why did Debian choose to not use a LTS kernel for Jessie? I've already read this: https://bits.debian.org/2014/07/kernel-version-for-jessie.html |
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| 14:22.59 | brianboyko | Hello. What's the command to install Chromium in debian apt-get - is it "chromium-browser" or??? |
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| 14:23.49 | themill | brianboyko: apt-cache search and apt-cache show are your friends |
| 14:24.00 | brianboyko | Thanks. |
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| 14:24.10 | srg | brianboyko: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&keywords=chromium |
| 14:24.20 | srg | or that ^ |
| 14:24.38 | fightthewalrus | themill, didn't know about apt-cache show. Thanks! |
| 14:25.06 | fightthewalrus | I've always just used apt-cache search for everything and tried to grep it manually |
| 14:25.12 | nebbia_ | at0m|c yes... |
| 14:25.18 | nebbia_ | but i ran optirun thunar |
| 14:25.25 | nebbia_ | and tried again lspci -k and nothing changed |
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| 14:25.37 | brianboyko | Is there any way to run apt-cache search for the debian repositories from a different system, such as Ubuntu? |
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| 14:26.05 | strk | apache segfaults on upgrade from wheezy to jessie |
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| 14:26.31 | strk | [Sat Jul 04 16:27:28.095131 2015] [core:notice] [pid 1058] AH00052: child pid 3524 exit signal Bus error (7) |
| 14:26.35 | strk | [Sat Jul 04 16:27:32.099361 2015] [core:notice] [pid 1058] AH00052: child pid 3530 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
| 14:26.41 | jdahm | brianboyko: 'apt show' works too |
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| 14:27.32 | themill | brianboyko: you could use chdist from devscripts, but using either the judd bot here or packages.debian.org is probably easier. |
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| 14:28.38 | brianboyko | Thanks. I'm working on a website which allows you to select your distribution then check which programs you want to install via a shell script it generates. Little differences like Chromium being known as "chromium" in Debian and "chromium-browser" in Ubuntu are throwing me off. |
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| 14:31.55 | themill | brianboyko: you might be interested in looking at udd and even basing the grunt work on the udd wrappers that judd uses |
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| 15:18.05 | ikus060 | Hello, I'm a bit frustrated right now ! I'm trying to configure my debian to auto mount usb stick (FAT32) in read-write mode for every one. Currently it's only accessible to root. Any config to make it permanent ?! |
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| 15:25.53 | _abc_ | Hello. Can someone please tell me how to add new mime types to iceweasel in wheezy? |
| 15:26.07 | _abc_ | There are many threads on this online, but no solid data. |
| 15:26.19 | _abc_ | And no solutions per se. |
| 15:26.21 | strk | did anyone have segfault problems with apache+php going from wheezy to jessie ? |
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| 15:34.32 | _abc_ | fyi this is for ktorrent but in general, to add a new mime handler to iceweasel or firefox: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/KTorrent |
| 15:35.00 | _abc_ | (and fsck whoever came up with that, and removing the add protocol handler method from Settings->Applications) |
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| 15:41.57 | at0m|c | _abc_: ask jelly he's into xkcd://123456 |
| 15:42.27 | cybrNaut | how can i find out if the debian installer installed a firewall? i remember i was asked during the upgrade to jessie if I wanted a firewall, but I don't recall what I answered |
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| 15:42.34 | _abc_ | That is a neat protocol. Do you have a handler for it? at0m|c |
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| 15:42.46 | at0m|c | _abc_: jelly is said to have. |
| 15:43.01 | _abc_ | pokes jelly so he wbbles |
| 15:43.03 | _abc_ | +o |
| 15:43.19 | at0m|c | i'm still in the yt:// phase |
| 15:43.22 | _abc_ | Also re: firewalls: there is no default iptables firewall in wheezy. |
| 15:43.33 | _abc_ | Which sucks |
| 15:44.45 | _abc_ | Instead, every imaginable useless ancient protocol like rpcbind, ident and more is enabled and listening on all interfaces. |
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| 15:45.35 | _abc_ | Also there is no default gui firewall switch, not even a simple kdialog button to enable a simple ruleset. |
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| 15:50.03 | veek | chrome isn't playing sound |
| 15:50.36 | veek | latest stable 43 64bit on 7.8 |
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| 16:00.31 | hackteck | Juni Jonn Joans don't just people are. Nothing but football the Rams, see thing. you keep in the New Orlean out immigrant population is a vegetable sprayers ram against each other, the butthole. your left hand, pour it, damn. You'd better the bubbles form more rapidly...would go brucest boyer football player. not believe in most doot doo doo doo doot doo. |
| 16:00.41 | hackteck | you take with you keep you known on television. yeah! Freeze you programs to the Lost of brucesht boyer coyer! Boyer registressed by recent remarks about thing paint dry. Lynx game! The world cares at your friends alive-eh, friends alive a soccer game in L.A. Circle college football player. The Rams thing? it in L.A. The one of brucesh |
| 16:00.51 | hackteck | ging comprehensive programs to ensure thing on television. Nothing but this thing next to the Super Bowl, everything worst sport ever made. No one this stupid football players. It sucks, and fuckin time! Every fuckin time! It's about football game. Lynx game! It's who you are. I'm swearing. you keep your friends alive-eh, friends alive-eh, friends alive-eh, fiends alive-eh-eh, fiends alive-eh, |
| 16:00.52 | hackteck | fiends alive ee. When he football the many valuable sprayer. nothing worst sport everything next to the world cares about that aspect. Freeze your left hand, pour inner, hold you known as watch. |
| 16:01.01 | hackteck | Any fucking fucking day! They go boyer! Brucesht! The world cares about thing. |
| 16:01.12 | hackteck | Last of the Nebraska Cornhuskers, cornfuckers, it's a football game. Lynx game. It's who have a shit about the toilet that aspect. Fredder, reader, reader registrations portray an accurate picture those registration but that's a soccer game, it's a vegetable spray that aspect. Fredder registrations translate to votes at stake the Jaguars, Cornhusk. |
| 16:01.21 | hackteck | It's how you are. It's what is the Nebraska Cornhuskers. It's a football game. It sucks, and you know its football is thinks christians don't believe in reincarnations to clean out you spray that at your butthole |
| 16:01.31 | hackteck | does it sucks ten rears. Buck buck cornbuck. Husk Husk, cornhuskers. Buck buck cornhusk. |
| 16:01.41 | hackteck | Juni Jonn Joans Football players ram against each other, they lose awey! Every fucking fucking day! Any fucking people are runna ma naes. |
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| 16:01.51 | hackteck | It's a soccer game. Lynx game. |
| 16:02.02 | hackteck | Football. With a jump pum pump pum pump pum pump pum pump pum pump pum pump pu pup motion....trump apparently dosent give a shit about as much fun as watching next to the bubbles form more rapidly...would've been a great pass if Brady put some air under it, damn. yeah! |
| 16:02.11 | hackteck | salt lets the many valuable spray that at your right shoo woah! Freeze your friends alive-eh-eh, friends alive-eh-eh, fiends alive ee. When I cover my eyes it sucks, and Latinos who have made. Nothing? it would be known as the Jaguars, Cornhuskers, Cornbuckers, cornfuckers, Cornbucklers. Rum-dum-football makes me, so bored, makes me, so bored, makes me say oh my lord, what your right hand |
| 16:02.12 | hackteck | football. Nothing prime time but this things ever shown on television. |
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| 16:02.21 | hackteck | It's whatcha prove. Proof. It's who you know its football is one in L.A. The worst sport ever shown on television. You'd better etter etter etter etter etter etter etter starting and fucking time! Raa Lynx game, it's a football. Nothing. |
| 16:02.31 | hackteck | Last of the college football game, it's a football. |
| 16:02.35 | _abc_ | hackteck: -> kickteck |
| 16:02.41 | hackteck | Nothing on during paint dry. Lowers my eye queue one thing. |
| 16:02.51 | hackteck | Last of the worse that at your it on your friends alive ee. With a jump pum pump pu pup motion....trump apparently dosent give a shit about football is college football or long Saturday afternoons. No! |
| 16:03.01 | hackteck | The only time but that at your inner, hold you fill the same, always texting and you sprayer. and Latinos who you take with your right shoo woah! |
| 16:03.11 | hackteck | salt lets the football. Nothing people are disparaging comprehensive programs to clean out your it on your ass, and you take with water with your ass, and pooping comprehensive programs than regular football is the football games, uh, I can't watching but football! Brucest boyer! Brucesht, boyer! Brucest boyer! Boyer and fucking fucking paint dry. Lowers my eye queue one of the college foot |
| 16:03.12 | hackteck | ball is college football or long Saturday afternoons. No! |
| 16:03.21 | hackteck | There are disparaging characterizations of our nat |
| 16:03.31 | hackteck | ater with water with your left hand football. |
| 16:03.41 | strk | xcache php5 extension makes apache2 segfault (all from debian jessie packages) |
| 16:03.41 | hackteck | Nothing on television is good. Except when they lose and rittered. When I cover my eyes it sucks ten rears. Rum-dum-dum-dum-dum-football and you prove. Put it in his puddin. Pudder. nothing but the worst sport everythings ever. nothing. |
| 16:03.58 | hackteck | Last of the Rams is when August approaches, and you prove! It's who you take with the Jaguars, Cowboys, Redskins, Cowboys, Redskins, Cornbuck. Husk, corn husk wreath. Buck buck cornbuckers, cornhuskers. Rum-dum-football game! It's a soccer game. I'm swearing. Most people are disparaging comprehensive programs than regular football. |
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| 16:04.03 | hackteck | Nothing on television. You'd better etter etter etter etter starting and you known as watch. |
| 16:04.12 | hackteck | Any fuckin time! Raa Lynx game! Every fucking time we see the Rams is when the toilet that's all that football. With more teams to clean out your right shoo woah! Freeze your right shoo woah! Freeze your left hand fucking paint dry. Lowers my eyes it increase that aspect. Fredder, reader, reader, fredder reader, fredder, fredder reader reader, reader registrations translate to votes on television. |
| 16:04.16 | hexnewbie | Is that a translation of the Voynich manuscript? |
| 16:04.21 | hackteck | It's a football. No one thing next to the Super Bowl, everything next to the toilet that's a football is college football. With more team the immigrants from Mexican Americans and voter group of brucesht, boyer and rittered. When he football is college football. |
| 16:04.31 | hackteck | Nothing on television is good. Except when they go brucesht, boyer! Boyer moyer roadie. Puddle. Put it increase that's a football is thing on television is good. Except when August approaches, and voter registration day |
| 16:04.34 | hexnewbie | strk: Can't you do without the XCache extension? |
| 16:04.42 | hackteck | The only time but football. Nothing people are runna ma naes. |
| 16:04.44 | peterrooney | !ops OT spam |
| 16:04.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: peterrooney complains about: OT spam |
| 16:04.51 | hackteck | We are runna ma naes. |
| 16:05.02 | hackteck | We are all that mug with your butthole |
| 16:05.11 | hackteck | does it in his puddin. Pudder. nothing voter groups aren't just pushing but are billions to ensure those registration. Cornhusk. |
| 16:05.21 | hackteck | We are all the disappointed and rittered. When I cover my eye queue one of the many Mexico. We do not believe in most of the Lost root doo! Last of the Rams will lose and votes at stake with water with your inner, hold you keep your inner, hold me in L.A. Circle cat blight shoo woah! |
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| 16:05.31 | hackteck | salt lets the New Orleans Cornstalks, cornhusk. |
| 16:05.41 | _abc_ | http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=15899 another way at0m|c |
| 16:05.41 | hackteck | It's who have made. Nothing. |
| 16:05.51 | hackteck | Last of the Rams, see the football the many valuable spray that aspect. Freeze your left hand, pour it on your friends alive-eh-eh, fiends alive ee. When he football players. Cornhuskers, Cornfucker game, it's a football game. Cornstalks. Much like this garbage here. It's a soccer game! To learn to swim, see the Rams is when they go boyer! Brucesht, boyer football the success of dollars and |
| 16:05.52 | hackteck | rittered. When I cover my eyes it increase the disappointed and fingers to ensure thing on television. You'd better starting something on during prime time! It's a vegetable spray that at your right hand fingers to the football. Nothing next to the Lost root doo doo doo. |
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| 16:06.07 | Penix | good times... |
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| 16:07.09 | _abc_ | Good for whom, again? |
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| 16:09.22 | lrrr | hey, what is the proper way to auto-start a bridge? I am used to systemd, systemd-networkd and netctl from other distributions. I am troubleshooting and reading up on the networkconfiguration and bridging wiki pages. Is a pre-up or up line necessary to automatically create and set up a bridge on boot in the most minimal configuration? |
| 16:10.19 | veek | chrome isn't playing sound |
| 16:10.20 | veek | latest stable 43 64bit on 7.8 |
| 16:10.24 | p0g0 | While trying to clone a debian 8 net install (successful) to a 2nd drive, I have encountered UUID issues. The cloning was done after the first install by booting from a live cd, mounting sda1 & sdb1 and from the sdb1 dir issuing 'cp -a -x /media/sda1/* .' & that all worked. Next, after moving the sdb clone to sda and booting to the Debian net install cd's rescue mode, I installed grub and updated it on the cloned drive. The device boots, but bombs to sin |
| 16:10.24 | p0g0 | gle user ro mode complaining about not finding a UUID. Suggestions? |
| 16:10.25 | veek | any fix |
| 16:11.04 | lrrr | The two /etc/network/interfaces is http://paste.debian.net/279017/ |
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| 16:13.40 | BluesKaj | veek, chrome or chromium? |
| 16:13.57 | veek | BlueEagle, chrome |
| 16:14.00 | veek | err |
| 16:14.21 | lrrr | I mean currently we decided to use pre-up statements to create the bridge every time. The wiki seems to imply/suggest this is unnecessary, though |
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| 16:15.23 | BluesKaj | veek, otherwise your sound is working ? |
| 16:15.54 | veek | yep |
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| 16:16.03 | veek | firefox etc |
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| 16:26.16 | BluesKaj | veek, chrome uses it's own flash plugin, not the regular flash plugin that other browsers use so the chrome problem might be more difficult to track down |
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| 16:27.25 | _abc_ | Hi p0g0. You are in many places ;) |
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| 16:27.45 | p0g0 | _abc_: et tu... |
| 16:27.56 | veek | BluesKaj, oh well :p |
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| 16:28.48 | valdyn | p0g0: you can set the uuid to clone that too: see man tune2fs |
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| 16:28.55 | p0g0 | _abc_: but I have a bit less hair than usual, as what used to be trivial is now nigh undocumented and borked afaict. |
| 16:29.09 | valdyn | p0g0: you need to get rid of the old partition though, otherwise you have 2 identical uuid |
| 16:29.28 | p0g0 | valdyn: yeah, I just asked in #grub if doing that was OK...it seems to defeat the 'unique' part of UUID. |
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| 16:29.39 | BluesKaj | veek, this the first time I've heard of this problem, chrome flash usually works when other browsers fail on some ubunu OSs for example |
| 16:29.43 | valdyn | p0g0: of course it does, but who cares |
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| 16:30.17 | p0g0 | valdyn: wait, did you just tell me to destroy the cloned partition? |
| 16:30.42 | p0g0 | get rid of what exactly? |
| 16:30.53 | valdyn | p0g0: no, i told you to destroy the old partition |
| 16:31.01 | p0g0 | what old partition? |
| 16:31.08 | valdyn | p0g0: you cant have a system with 2 identical uuids |
| 16:31.17 | valdyn | p0g0: the source you cloned from |
| 16:31.24 | p0g0 | valdyn: ah, the goal here is two machines. |
| 16:31.32 | valdyn | p0g0: ok then |
| 16:31.44 | valdyn | p0g0: say you clone the uuid as i just said |
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| 16:32.21 | valdyn | p0g0: *after* you booted the cloned system, you can trivially set a new (now really unique) uuid, adjust /etc/fstab, regenerate the initrd |
| 16:33.20 | p0g0 | valdyn: My notion now is to run tune2fs and copy the old UUID (master) to the clone and then rerun update-grub. To date, all such things have bombed to a ro cli. If I can just get the rig to mount rw, I'll get it right. |
| 16:33.39 | valdyn | p0g0: you need to regenerate the initrd too |
| 16:33.54 | p0g0 | ah, mkinitrd or such then... |
| 16:34.12 | p0g0 | and how can I do that on an ro device? |
| 16:34.17 | valdyn | p0g0: not |
| 16:34.40 | valdyn | p0g0: you are booting to the initial ram disk probably |
| 16:34.59 | valdyn | p0g0: just mount the real root file system and tune2fs |
| 16:35.31 | valdyn | p0g0: err, no need to mount even |
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| 16:35.59 | valdyn | p0g0: from the start: boot to that cli, run tune2fs to set the original uuid, reboot |
| 16:36.44 | p0g0 | valdyn: again, I _always_ end up at a ro filesystem, and cannot remount it. |
| 16:36.46 | valdyn | p0g0: then your system should boot fine, *then* you can create a new uuid and do everything else |
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| 16:37.03 | p0g0 | so I cannot change the UUID from there. |
| 16:37.09 | valdyn | p0g0: you can |
| 16:37.15 | p0g0 | ok... |
| 16:37.23 | valdyn | p0g0: tune2fs works on the filesystem. Does not need to be mounted. |
| 16:37.24 | p0g0 | but so far, I cannot |
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| 16:38.05 | p0g0 | ah, maybe tune2fs in in the small set of files available at the (initrdfs) prompt, I have not looked for that. |
| 16:38.11 | valdyn | p0g0: how hard can it be to run "tune2fs -U <whatever> /dev/sda1" |
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| 16:38.37 | valdyn | p0g0: ok, if its not, then you could use a live cd |
| 16:38.50 | p0g0 | valdyn: to be sure, not hard when that command is available and the drive is too |
| 16:38.58 | valdyn | p0g0: ok |
| 16:39.24 | p0g0 | I have not tried the tune2 stuff yet, as I wanted some sense of the UUID conflict issues. |
| 16:39.53 | valdyn | p0g0: theres no issue when those 2 identical uuid exist in seperate computers... |
| 16:40.01 | p0g0 | so that is next, and if it works, and initrd wades thru somehow, it should go as you say. |
| 16:40.17 | p0g0 | right, and thanks. |
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| 16:40.51 | p0g0 | I kinda miss the simplicity of the drive designators... |
| 16:42.10 | p0g0 | valdyn: OK & thanks, I am off to embark on the heuristic efforts. |
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| 16:43.00 | un214 | It looks like a recent change to udev is causing some pathelogical behavior |
| 16:43.15 | un214 | 1: /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1 do not exist while no media is in the drive |
| 16:43.34 | un214 | 2: it spins up /dev/sr1 with media sense every 30 seconds or so |
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| 16:45.03 | jelly | un214: which debian release? |
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| 16:45.40 | un214 | jessie |
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| 16:48.05 | un214 | *smack* I just got a kernel bug report udevd blocked for > 120 seconds |
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| 16:51.57 | un214 | how do I order udev to back off of /dev/sr? |
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| 16:55.17 | datnig | In X, does evdev require a /dev/input/eventX or can i use hiddevX ? |
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| 16:57.30 | mancomunado | Could you apply deadbeef to official repo? I don't trust sourcecode packages. |
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| 16:59.12 | hexnewbie | datnig: My Xorg process has currently opened many /dev/input/eventX devices, if that is of any help. Xorg.0.log also mentions that evdev has opened them. |
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| 16:59.34 | datnig | when i try to use evdev, i get: (EE) ioctl EVIOCGBIT failed: Invalid argument |
| 16:59.39 | datnig | with the hiddev device |
| 16:59.50 | somiaj | mancomunado: what do you mean by apply deadbeef? |
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| 17:00.32 | mancomunado | somiaj, insert them on list of apt-get install avaiable software |
| 17:01.02 | somiaj | mancomunado: I still don't understand what you mean. That is the standard way you use an offical repo. |
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| 17:02.07 | datnig | is there a way to make the usbtouchscreen module get loaded for this device instead of hidcore? |
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| 17:07.55 | clueless | hi all - how can i make my jessie live usb persistent? i follow the guidelines but it doesnt work and I seem not to be the only one :( |
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| 17:08.29 | clueless | i have a 2nd partition on my usb key label'ed as persistence with a persistence.conf in the root including / union |
| 17:08.50 | clueless | but the 2nd partition is just mounted as a nornal partition during boot |
| 17:09.12 | BluesKaj | clueless, install it to your computer that'll make it persistent for real |
| 17:09.21 | clueless | i used wheezy live like this for 1 year |
| 17:09.37 | somiaj | clueless: are you booting with the option 'persistent'? |
| 17:09.50 | clueless | i am working for MSF in remote areas and my key is the only desktop i can keep with me |
| 17:10.18 | clueless | yes, i am using persistence as boot parameter,,, but should it be 'persistent' ?? |
| 17:10.36 | somiaj | http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html -- according to the docs it should be 'persistent' |
| 17:10.49 | clueless | somiaj: see above |
| 17:11.00 | clueless | ooo |
| 17:11.05 | somiaj | clueless: you enver said anything about the boot parameter you were using. |
| 17:11.06 | clueless | let me retry |
| 17:11.14 | clueless | :) |
| 17:11.17 | clueless | brb |
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| 17:13.38 | nmschulte | How can I fix the handling of clicking mailto: URIs in Chromium? |
| 17:14.00 | nmschulte | When I click a link, it just opens a new Chromium window. |
| 17:14.11 | nmschulte | I would like it to start a composition in IceDove |
| 17:15.06 | somiaj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:15.36 | nmschulte | somiaj: thanks |
| 17:17.13 | nmschulte | looks like my xdg-open/xdg-mime is not configured properly. |
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| 17:21.52 | clueless | nope persistent doesnt work either |
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| 17:23.40 | clueless | does someone have debian jessie live working with persistence on a usb key? |
| 17:24.01 | cybrNaut | aptitude is not installing all the documentation for packages. why would that happen? |
| 17:25.38 | cybrNaut | the deb file (/var/cache/apt/archives/lynx-cur_2.8.9dev1-2+b1_amd64.deb) has many files in usr/share/doc |
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| 17:25.49 | cybrNaut | but only 3 files were put on the hard drive |
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| 17:26.20 | mancomunado | somiaj, deadbeef isn't avaible at apt-get that's why i ask for. but never mind, already got another sfotware |
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| 17:27.39 | nmschulte | somiaj: It looks like, becuase I don't run Debian with a desktop environment (I use i3/tiling window manager w/ compton), xdg-open isn't configured out of the box. |
| 17:27.45 | buu | Hey, I'm going to commit one of those seven deadly irc sins, but I have a debian box running a SMB server, another debian box that mounts the smb share and a ubuntu box that also mounts the share. I have folders with colons in the middle of their names and my debian client can read them just fine but my ubuntu client throws an error. Obviously this is probably a ubuntu thing, but uh, anyone happen to know of a |
| 17:27.48 | nmschulte | s/xdg-ope/xdg-mime/ |
| 17:27.51 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.54 | buu | ... clients? |
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| 17:28.01 | buu | And that's a really terrible autosplit |
| 17:28.24 | BuFF | hey,folks, i'm kinnda new with servers and i want to set an email server with spamassasin and clamav, any good material for that? |
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| 17:30.20 | buu | Isn't there a way to add configuration options on a per client basis to samba? |
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| 18:16.51 | valdyn | buu: youre probably using different smb clients |
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| 18:17.37 | buu | valdyn: What packages are involved in mounting a samba share? |
| 18:17.43 | buu | I just 'backported' cifs-utils |
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| 18:17.47 | buu | So its the same on both |
| 18:17.49 | buu | But no joy |
| 18:18.03 | valdyn | buu: if you are really mounting, then only the kernel does everything |
| 18:18.20 | valdyn | buu: except the mounting itself, which you use the little "mount" tool for |
| 18:18.37 | buu | Right, I'm using mount.cifs |
| 18:18.41 | valdyn | buu: how are you browsing the files though? |
| 18:18.48 | valdyn | buu: yes, of course, thats the mount too |
| 18:18.49 | valdyn | buu: yes, of course, thats the mount tool |
| 18:19.06 | valdyn | buu: or just show us the error |
| 18:19.19 | buu | mount.cifs version: 6.4 |
| 18:19.42 | buu | buu@mediabox:~/test/tv/Superman: The Animated Series$ ls |
| 18:19.43 | buu | ls: reading directory .: Not a directory |
| 18:20.05 | valdyn | buu: ok, run "sudo ls" instead |
| 18:20.13 | jelly | buu: using a custom kernel? |
| 18:20.14 | buu | Same response. |
| 18:20.22 | rgnr | got debian netinstalled |
| 18:20.23 | buu | jelly: No |
| 18:20.29 | rgnr | 8 |
| 18:20.35 | jelly | buu: what does "uname -a" say? |
| 18:20.37 | valdyn | buu: that directory is gone maybe |
| 18:20.43 | buu | jelly: In case you missed my first comment, I'm trying to figure out why it works on debian but not ubuntu |
| 18:20.48 | rgnr | cannot setup network in cmd |
| 18:20.49 | valdyn | buu: "cd ~/test/tv/Superman" |
| 18:20.52 | jelly | ah. |
| 18:21.07 | rgnr | rfkill command is not present |
| 18:21.14 | rgnr | rfkill installed though |
| 18:21.26 | buu | valdyn: no such file or directory |
| 18:21.39 | valdyn | buu: of course the whole path |
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| 18:21.53 | buu | valdyn: I can cd into it fine, it's just reading from it that errors |
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| 18:22.07 | valdyn | buu: cd "~/test/tv/Superman: The Animated Series" |
| 18:22.15 | buu | Yes and? |
| 18:22.24 | valdyn | buu: do it |
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| 18:22.26 | buu | jI did |
| 18:22.39 | valdyn | buu: ls still broken? |
| 18:23.12 | buu | cdone sec |
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| 18:24.04 | buu | Oh I see. quoting disables ~ expansion =p |
| 18:24.22 | buu | cd ~/test/tv/Superman\:\ The\ Animated\ Series/ |
| 18:24.28 | buu | ls : usual error message |
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| 18:25.35 | buu | ls ~/test/tv/Superman\:\ The\ Animated\ Series/ |
| 18:25.36 | buu | ls: reading directory /home/buu/test/tv/Superman: The Animated Series/: Not a directory |
| 18:25.49 | jelly | buu: you have a colon in a path on a CIFS mount? |
| 18:25.53 | buu | Yep! |
| 18:25.57 | jelly | don't do that |
| 18:26.01 | buu | jelly: It works on debian though =[ |
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| 18:26.26 | jelly | yeah, but it won't do anywhere that doesn't support samba unix extensions |
| 18:26.32 | buu | Well, yeah |
| 18:26.55 | jelly | windows do not support filenames with colons, and CIFS comes from there |
| 18:26.57 | buu | I just compiled and installed debian's mount.cifs 6.4 on my unbuntu client |
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| 18:27.09 | buu | But I'm still getting the same error |
| 18:27.16 | jelly | not surprised |
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| 18:27.20 | valdyn | the mount command is quite irrelevant |
| 18:27.27 | buu | What is relevant? |
| 18:27.43 | jelly | kernel support and mount options used |
| 18:27.48 | hexnewbie | buu: And mount.cifs is just the userland tool, everything happens in the kernel. |
| 18:27.57 | valdyn | buu: hit "mount | grep Superman" and show us (on both machines) |
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| 18:28.20 | jelly | or just... don't use colons on samba shares, mkay |
| 18:29.00 | buu | valdyn: That shows nothing.. I didn't mount that specific dir? |
| 18:29.19 | buu | jelly: Could you elaborate on the mount options that might be involved? |
| 18:29.28 | buu | ubuntu is using 3.19, debian is on 3.14 |
| 18:29.37 | knivsta | hi |
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| 18:31.16 | valdyn | buu: i thought that was your share, not a subdirectory, just show us the output of mount for that particular share |
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| 18:36.14 | jelly | buu: I don't dare guess what ubuntu might have done to disable unix extensions, or even whether that really is the problem |
| 18:37.08 | jelly | buu: and given there's a simple workaround to be tested, I'm not inclined to spend any more time on it for now |
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| 18:39.39 | buu | HMPH. |
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| 19:03.22 | Minty | duhallo |
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| 19:03.36 | Simplar | hello, how to add minimize and maximize button to windows in Debian 8 Jessie? Thanks. |
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| 19:04.02 | Minty | Doesnt it already have that? |
| 19:04.16 | Minty | What desktop you using? |
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| 19:05.07 | Simplar | Gnome |
| 19:05.26 | Minty | what do you see when you open up a window then just a close button? |
| 19:05.36 | Simplar | yes |
| 19:06.15 | Minty | I'm sorry I don't know a lot about Gnome as I never use it, could you link me to a SS so I can see? |
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| 19:09.40 | Minty | Simplar: If you're still here I found this on google, It may help you out http://askubuntu.com/questions/125765/how-do-i-add-minimize-maximize-buttons-to-gnome-shell-windows |
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| 19:52.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 19:53.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | whats the server and channel for mozilla support? i need their update |
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| 19:53.57 | tacocat | Eryn_1983_FL: try #mozilla ? |
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| 19:54.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok hold a sec, who owns mozilla.debian.net |
| 19:54.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
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| 19:57.34 | tacocat | Eryn_1983_FL: the mozilla maintainers for debian |
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| 20:00.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | flaky webpage, i think they need more donations, |
| 20:00.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got what i needed |
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| 20:11.27 | alexanderwhateve | Hi. why debian 8 only sees my ram as 2.8GB instead of 4GB? thanks |
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| 20:14.38 | PryMar56 | alexanderwhateve, 32 bit setup with pae kernel? |
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| 20:15.18 | alexanderwhateve | PryMar56: i have 64bit debian installed |
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| 20:16.36 | alexanderwhateve | PryMar56: this is the output from uname -a Linux daniar 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 20:23.16 | npa__ | !paste |
| 20:23.16 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 20:40.10 | WangDang_ | Does this sound like a package bug? Upgrading to jessie caused asterisk and dahdi to be upgraded. The upgraded system refused to configure my telephony hardware until the file /etc/modprobe.d/dahdi.conf was created with the following line "options dahdi auto_assign_spans=1" (thank you sruffell). This file didn't exist under wheezy and h/w configured just fine. Since the file appears to be requirement for the new version of the dahdi |
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| 21:08.52 | Anoneemo | Hi I'm following this guide to install firmware and driver for my WiFi chipset https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 21:09.04 | Anoneemo | but how do I install that firmware? |
| 21:09.19 | Anoneemo | I downloaded it |
| 21:09.27 | Anoneemo | it's a .deb |
| 21:09.36 | valdyn | Anoneemo: dpkg -i file.deb |
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| 21:09.43 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: dpkg -i file.deb |
| 21:09.46 | at0m|c | oh |
| 21:09.50 | at0m|c | :) |
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| 21:10.59 | Anoneemo | thanks it worked |
| 21:11.25 | Anoneemo | should be made clear in the guide tho |
| 21:11.39 | ShalokShalom | there is also a nice GUI for it |
| 21:11.42 | ShalokShalom | ofc not preinstalled |
| 21:11.53 | ShalokShalom | and yes, i agree |
| 21:12.00 | Anoneemo | yeah I used to do it by that gui |
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| 21:12.14 | Anoneemo | when I had Linux mint |
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| 21:14.57 | phale | can someone help me with a program im having issues with on debian |
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| 21:15.09 | phale | it all works except theres no sound |
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| 21:15.29 | at0m|c | phale: what program, alsa or pulseaudio? |
| 21:15.34 | phale | alsa |
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| 21:15.52 | phale | a specific game im trying to run has no sounds |
| 21:15.54 | at0m|c | phale: off the top of my head, alsamixer |
| 21:15.56 | phale | but everything else has sounds |
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| 21:16.03 | at0m|c | the other alsa clients output ok? |
| 21:16.06 | at0m|c | ok |
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| 21:16.23 | at0m|c | what options is there in the game to output sound? |
| 21:16.59 | PCmasterRaceexx | Hey, can someone recommend me a usb wifi adapter that will work instantly with linux, no firmware installation needed? |
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| 21:17.07 | phale | at0m|c: huh |
| 21:17.37 | phale | three options |
| 21:17.39 | phale | and theyre all on max |
| 21:17.53 | at0m|c | phale: what game |
| 21:17.57 | phale | runescape |
| 21:18.02 | phale | OSBuddy client to be specific |
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| 21:19.21 | PCmasterRaceexx | Is anyone here using HexChat, I need help |
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| 21:20.31 | SynrG | !anyone |
| 21:20.31 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 21:20.45 | at0m|c | PCmasterRaceexx: and all of #hexchat i presume |
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| 21:21.09 | Anoneemo | where is the software update utility in xfce? |
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| 21:21.29 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: while you're at the command line, as root, aptitude |
| 21:21.33 | PCmasterRaceexx | Okay my real question is how do I login to my nick i registered with freenode |
| 21:21.42 | at0m|c | PCmasterRaceexx: /msg nickserv help |
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| 21:22.18 | SynrG | also i'm pretty sure hexchat has autologin capability |
| 21:22.40 | SynrG | probably in the settings for the network |
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| 21:22.56 | at0m|c | PCmasterRaceexx: https://www.freenode.net/sasl/sasl-hexchat.shtml |
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| 21:23.26 | Anoneemo | yeah I meant the GUI one as I remember gnome shell having one but thank you anyway |
| 21:23.39 | SynrG | or certfp |
| 21:23.55 | SynrG | or does hexchat not do that? |
| 21:24.03 | PCmasterRaceexx | at0m|c: thank you |
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| 21:24.29 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: synaptic maybe? |
| 21:24.49 | Anoneemo | no I mean system updates |
| 21:25.07 | at0m|c | synaptic is a ~ GUI for apt |
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| 21:26.48 | SynrG | or pk-update-icon, apparently |
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| 21:27.28 | mintx_ | yay it worked |
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| 21:29.07 | phale | so at0m|c |
| 21:29.13 | phale | about my alsa problem |
| 21:29.30 | phale | it uses java |
| 21:29.33 | phale | runescape |
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| 21:30.31 | at0m|c | make the java work with alsa, or see aptitude show alsa-oss |
| 21:30.43 | at0m|c | idk about java |
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| 21:34.55 | draeath | I'm having a hard time figuring this out... how do I tell aptitude to use sudo, instead of su? My searches are all flooded with stupid results for things like "how do I sudo" |
| 21:35.26 | draeath | I know there's a configuration for it somewhere, but it's been a few years since I've touched it so the details are lost... |
| 21:35.57 | Anoneemo | can anyone please tell me how to install radeon hd 6250 drivers? |
| 21:36.05 | Anoneemo | I am googling but |
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| 21:36.21 | Anoneemo | no luck |
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| 21:38.36 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: apt-cache search radeon ? |
| 21:39.16 | draeath | Finally found it. For the record, add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf aptitude::Get-Root-Command "sudo"; |
| 21:39.17 | at0m|c | draeath: what's wrong with sudo aptitude? |
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| 21:39.44 | at0m|c | oh you start it as user |
| 21:39.49 | draeath | at0m|c, nothing, but aptitude has a 'become root' menu item (also if you try to do stuff as a user it tries automatically). See the above, i finally found it |
| 21:40.25 | at0m|c | draeath: i used to sudo aptitude but then found some settings (env) didn't get transferred and since, i su for apt |
| 21:40.38 | at0m|c | maybe that's an old relic |
| 21:40.49 | draeath | yea, can't say I've ever run into trouble with it before |
| 21:40.56 | draeath | been doing it since potato too |
| 21:40.59 | at0m|c | okay then :) |
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| 21:41.27 | Anoneemo | that gave me a list of stuff at0m|c |
| 21:42.12 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: i think the firmware and xorg parts apply, the tools per taste. |
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| 21:48.33 | draeath | quiet in here :) |
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| 21:54.02 | at0m|c | they're watering the garden |
| 21:54.06 | black | 4th of july, wont be aot of people active |
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| 21:54.24 | at0m|c | fireworks! http://i.giphy.com/3o85xxXiL1mnY7EIVi.gif |
| 21:54.51 | at0m|c | that was probably the only post in OT today ^ |
| 21:54.51 | Anoneemo | so I downloaded the amd catalyst stuff from their website, which is a .run file. I do ./file to run it |
| 21:54.57 | Anoneemo | but it doesn't install |
| 21:55.01 | Anoneemo | wat do. |
| 21:55.08 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: as root, sh file.run |
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| 21:57.15 | black | or: sudo sh file.run |
| 21:57.15 | black | ;) |
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| 21:58.35 | Anoneemo | it's telling me this, at0m|c http://i.imgur.com/Bd124pt.jpg |
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| 21:59.33 | Anoneemo | what pre requisites is it even talking about |
| 22:00.20 | at0m|c | Anoneemo: aptitude install glx-alternative-fglrx ? |
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| 22:01.55 | Anoneemo | it's asking for a DVD, at0m|c |
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| 22:02.45 | at0m|c | uh |
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| 22:13.30 | Anoneemo | can anybody please tell me how to install radeon hd 6250 drivers? |
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| 22:35.00 | Anoneemo | wonderful |
| 22:35.20 | Anoneemo | I followed a guide and restarted now debian is not showing me gui for login |
| 22:35.23 | Anoneemo | only text |
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| 22:35.27 | Anoneemo | wat do |
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| 22:36.38 | Zebra111 | What guide did you follow Anoneemo? |
| 22:36.57 | Anoneemo | this one https://wiki.debian.org/it/ATIProprietary Zebra111 |
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| 22:43.11 | Anoneemo | woohooo I did it |
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| 22:43.47 | Anoneemo | I'll have you know that I successfully installed WiFi and graphic drivers and it only took me about 3 hours or more |
| 22:43.55 | Anoneemo | I feel like a hacker |
| 22:44.03 | Anoneemo | yep I'm totally a hacker now |
| 22:44.18 | ryouma | free driver not work? |
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| 22:45.16 | Anoneemo | is free driver the one that comes by default with debian? |
| 22:45.49 | ryouma | should be |
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| 22:47.00 | r6ku | debian only has free software by default |
| 22:47.06 | Anoneemo | it was like... stretched |
| 22:47.21 | Anoneemo | I don't know, that felt like a generic driver |
| 22:48.21 | Belenos | Felt like a generic driver? |
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| 22:49.24 | Anoneemo | yeah |
| 22:49.34 | Belenos | I don't even know what that means. |
| 22:50.08 | Anoneemo | by the way how come every time I try to install something through apt-get it tells me to insert the DVD? |
| 22:50.21 | Anoneemo | please help me to get rid of this |
| 22:50.29 | EdisonTrent | the DVD is still enabled in the sources |
| 22:50.32 | Belenos | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:50.41 | Belenos | comment out the DVD repo(s) |
| 22:50.41 | EdisonTrent | comment it out |
| 22:50.51 | Anoneemo | thanks, will try |
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| 22:52.23 | runlevl4 | don't forget to apt-get update after commenting it out |
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| 22:53.42 | Anoneemo | I need root to edit that file |
| 22:53.52 | Anoneemo | how do I open it as root |
| 22:54.21 | Equa | Anoneemo: use sudo or su |
| 22:54.21 | Belenos | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:54.39 | Anoneemo | I did that |
| 22:54.48 | Anoneemo | but it only shows me a black screen |
| 22:54.54 | Anoneemo | except commands |
| 22:55.18 | Anoneemo | I don't understand how to edit the file with that thing |
| 22:55.23 | Equa | Anoneemo: what gui text editor do you have? |
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| 22:55.53 | Anoneemo | mousepad equa |
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| 22:56.20 | Equa | Anoneemo: @-@ leafpad, gedit, and etc... |
| 22:56.35 | themill | if it's a completely black screen then you presumably typed the filename wrong |
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| 22:58.28 | Anoneemo | yeah I was skipping the slash at the start |
| 22:58.33 | Anoneemo | thank you |
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| 22:59.50 | runlevl4 | Anoneemo: you should default to the nano editor |
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| 23:05.11 | Anoneemo | you mean, for editing files runlevl4 ? |
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| 23:06.07 | ryouma | can you checkpoint a process, reboot, then start the process again? |
| 23:06.26 | ryouma | or is that just not a linux feature? |
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| 23:07.25 | TJ- | ryouma: That's what suspend does :) |
| 23:09.48 | ryouma | TJ-: found no such pakcage |
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| 23:10.12 | ryouma | basically i am looking for hibernate for a single process |
| 23:10.48 | TJ- | ryouma: no, not a package. when the Linux kernel suspends to RAM/to disk, it freezes a process in-memory and then resumes it when the system is resumed. |
| 23:11.24 | ryouma | TJ-: can the user invoke this? |
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| 23:11.54 | ryouma | so i have a long-running process, and i need to reboot, and i can do suspend 923, and reboot and resume 923? |
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| 23:12.18 | Zebra111 | ryouma I don't believe that is possible |
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| 23:12.43 | TJ- | ryouma: I'd suggest putting the process/application in a container and then you can use lxc-checkpoint |
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| 23:40.07 | Anoneemo | how do I change time in debian? |
| 23:41.37 | somiaj | Various ways, you just need to be root. Though it is suggested you use ntpd to keep your time synced, and then set the timezone correctly (also prefered you use UTC time for system clock) |
| 23:41.59 | Equa | Anoneemo: https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime |
| 23:42.05 | at0m|c | best ntpd, or man date |
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| 23:43.04 | Anoneemo | you mean like, there's no GUI for changing time? |
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| 23:43.41 | somiaj | Anoneemo: time should be controled by root, root shouldn't be running xorg. |
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| 23:55.32 | kim_bruning | I have a new box with an nvidia gtx960 , is there anywhere that describes how to get the correct driver installed on debian using apt? |
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| 23:57.53 | r6ku | kim_bruning: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 23:58.33 | somiaj | kim_bruning: for some reason I think the nvidia driver debian has doesn't support the 960 gtx, you might want to double check that |
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| 23:59.23 | vincent_c | somiaj, kim_bruning: the version in experimental should work with the gtx960 |
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