| 00:00.04 | abrotman | acz32: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2015/threads.html |
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| 00:00.15 | mns | I must've updated something that caused libgcc1-5-dev to get installed. |
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| 00:08.38 | cilkay | Does anyone know how to script adding a Samba user with a password? |
| 00:08.39 | doesntmatter | is there already a concise opinion over systemd? |
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| 00:09.37 | themill | doesntmatter: "most users wouldn't know the difference" |
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| 00:10.38 | doesntmatter | can i install iusing apt-get and then do nothing? |
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| 00:10.46 | cilkay | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12009/piping-password-to-smbpasswd |
| 00:11.06 | cilkay | answering his own question in case anyone else is curious |
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| 00:11.07 | doesntmatter | it has a log of features though |
| 00:11.10 | acz32 | abrotman: for some reason i haven't gotten any even though i've done update & upgrade |
| 00:11.13 | doesntmatter | s/log/lot |
| 00:11.15 | acz32 | in about 4-5 days |
| 00:12.18 | Equa | cilkay: take a look at post # 5 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/shell-script-to-add-samba-users-309812/ |
| 00:12.47 | WangDang_ | I'm trying to prepare a box for upgrading to jessie. I've run update several times, and there is one Packages file that refuses to download. Sometimes I get a 408, sometimes a 404. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/5f7136fe/ Can anyone help me figure why that one file won't download? |
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| 00:13.35 | cilkay | Equa: Thanks. |
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| 00:14.44 | Equa | WangDang_: seems like the host is unstable. |
| 00:15.21 | WangDang_ | Equa: what do you mean by unstable? |
| 00:15.26 | themill | WangDang_: your proxy hates you |
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| 00:16.33 | WangDang_ | themill: any suggestions on how to get it like me :) |
| 00:16.52 | doesntmatter | themill do you think systemd will prevail? |
| 00:17.02 | abrotman | acz32: perhaps you don't have those packages installed? |
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| 00:17.24 | WangDang_ | Equa: if it were unstable, would it choke at the same place each try? |
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| 00:18.33 | Equa | WangDang_: 408 error means it timeout and 404 means it's not there. might do to do network diagnosis |
| 00:19.30 | Equa | WangDang_: do you have another workstation you can run the test on? see if it's just the current computer |
| 00:21.19 | WangDang_ | Equa: I don't have another workstation, but I have another server I can try it from... gimme a sec |
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| 00:24.48 | emunah | how come i can't add a repository via the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mjblenner/ppa-hal" , i get the error that command add-apt-repository is not available |
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| 00:27.21 | themill | emunah: PPAs are not for Debian |
| 00:27.47 | Equa | emunah: are you on jessie? |
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| 00:28.11 | Equa | .v add-apt-repository |
| 00:28.20 | abrotman | ... |
| 00:28.23 | Equa | ,v add-apt-repository |
| 00:28.24 | judd | No package named 'add-apt-repository' was found in amd64. |
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| 00:28.34 | abrotman | They're still not for Debian ... |
| 00:28.49 | Equa | emunah: it's under the name python-sofotware-properties |
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| 00:29.16 | abrotman | and there's a good chance it will break your system in unrecoverable ways |
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| 00:29.53 | Equa | ,v software-properties-common |
| 00:29.54 | judd | Package: software-properties-common on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.82.7.1debian1; sid: 0.92.25debian1; jessie: 0.92.25debian1; stretch: 0.92.25debian1 |
| 00:29.56 | un214 | what's the recommended way of gaining access to /dev/ttyUSB0? |
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| 00:30.42 | themill | un214: a udev rule that puts it in an appropriate group (plugdev for instance) is typical |
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| 00:32.05 | emunah | i'm trying to install the "hal" package so hbogo will work |
| 00:32.30 | emunah | apparently the solution for ubuntu was this http://askubuntu.com/questions/333925/hbo-go-doesnt-work |
| 00:33.11 | themill | hal? how quaint. |
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| 00:33.25 | emunah | how can i get it installed on debian |
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| 00:33.43 | Equa | ,v hal |
| 00:33.44 | judd | Package: hal on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.5.14-3; wheezy: 0.5.14-8 |
| 00:33.59 | emunah | i'm on jessie |
| 00:34.04 | un214 | so I looked up how to write the rule and I found a set of really bad advice: http://askubuntu.com/questions/112568/how-do-i-allow-a-non-default-user-to-use-serial-device-ttyusb0 |
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| 00:35.22 | themill | why on earth would a flash thing depend on hal? |
| 00:35.38 | WangDang_ | Equa: good call. I thought the problem was with the server, but apt-get update on another client ran flawlessly. So I checked out the client and it was out of space on the device. I added space to the device and the update worked as expected. Thanks for the help :) |
| 00:35.43 | h00sier | emunah that link you showed had a ppa |
| 00:35.52 | emunah | i want to try it, i have no idea, i just want to get hal installed |
| 00:36.13 | Equa | WangDang_: nice :D |
| 00:36.56 | emunah | h00sier: i don't understand what ppa is |
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| 00:37.11 | emunah | and if that's the proper way to install hal on debian |
| 00:37.27 | themill | emunah: it's not |
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| 00:37.42 | Equa | emunah: not all steps on ubuntu applies to debian |
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| 00:38.19 | emunah | is it possible that "hal" is a problem for me? |
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| 00:39.01 | Equa | emunah: need to know your end goal. don't just install things because you found it on the web. need to check documents for the software you're actually trying to run / install |
| 00:40.02 | emunah | i am using google chrome, it uses flash version 17, when i try to stream an hbogo movie i get a black screen, i am on debian jessie |
| 00:40.35 | Equa | emunah: that's odd. i didn't need to install hal for chrome using flash |
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| 00:40.52 | Equa | emunah: let me check my version of flash |
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| 00:42.05 | h00sier | emunah http://askubuntu.com/questions/217179/how-to-add-ppa-repositories dont' forget to apt-get update |
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| 00:42.42 | Equa | emunah: Adobe Flash Player - Version: 18.0.0.194 |
| 00:43.20 | Equa | emunah: give me a link of the page you're loading so i can test it on my system |
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| 00:44.07 | emunah | equa i don't think you'll be able to unless you have an account, to create an account you need select your cable provider, http://www.hbogo.com/ |
| 00:44.28 | Equa | emunah: does flash work everywhere else? |
| 00:44.44 | emunah | Equa: yeah it works everywhere else |
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| 00:46.42 | Equa | emunah: what error loaded up and how did you come about to the unbuntu fix page? |
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| 00:47.43 | emunah | i don't get an error anywhere, i just get a black screen whenever i try to play a movie, i googled "linux hbogo black screen" and found that link |
| 00:47.51 | r3m | a |
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| 00:50.47 | Equa | emunah: do you have another browser you can test the site? |
| 00:51.19 | emunah | yes i have ice weasel but that shows as using flash version 11 |
| 00:51.37 | Equa | emunah: the site does a check and say you require an update? |
| 00:51.39 | emunah | it black screens in ice weasel as well |
| 00:51.54 | emunah | nope i just get a black screen instead of the movie there too |
| 00:52.00 | abrotman | emunah: did you run the script to update flash? |
| 00:52.06 | Equa | emunah: sounds to me like the site is the problem |
| 00:52.32 | emunah | abrotman: i'm using flash 17 in chrome and it black screens there |
| 00:53.01 | abrotman | That doesn't answer my questoin |
| 00:53.17 | emunah | abrotman: what script are you referring too? |
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| 00:53.51 | abrotman | update-flashplugin-nonfree and update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 00:54.32 | emunah | do i install those? |
| 00:55.31 | abrotman | they're already installed if you installed flash using the Debian packages |
| 00:56.06 | emunah | i get command not found when running those |
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| 00:58.23 | abrotman | emunah: did you install from packages? Are you root? |
| 00:58.53 | emunah | i am trying to figure out how to installthe packages |
| 00:59.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell emunah about non-free |
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| 01:01.03 | Equa | emunah: go to the test protected video content playback and follow those instructions to test your player with drm |
| 01:01.10 | Equa | emunah: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/protected-video-content-play.html |
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| 01:06.48 | Equa | emunah: the page you are looking up for answer. read the 2nd line of the user. He installed hal and it still didn't work. The answer below does not have a check mark or reply from the user that it works. i wouldn't try that solution just yet |
| 01:07.48 | abrotman | or wait for emunah to ensure the plugins are up to date |
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| 01:08.09 | Equa | abrotman: i think he's new. running commands without superuser |
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| 01:12.15 | Equa | ,v flash-plugin |
| 01:12.16 | judd | No package named 'flash-plugin' was found in amd64. |
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| 01:12.45 | Equa | ,v flashplugin-nonfree |
| 01:12.47 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; stretch/contrib: 1:3.6.1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6.1; sid/contrib: 1:3.6.1 |
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| 01:14.55 | abrotman | Equa: feel free to msg the bot |
| 01:15.17 | Equa | abrotman: thanks. i'll learn it a bit later. gotta go |
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| 01:17.23 | emunah | Equa, i'm trying the DRM solution out |
| 01:17.31 | Miesco | !upgrade-to-jessie |
| 01:17.38 | Miesco | !upgrade |
| 01:17.39 | dpkg | from memory, upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <squeeze->wheezy> <wheezy->jessie>. |
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| 01:17.57 | Miesco | !wheezy->jessie |
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| 01:18.08 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Miesco about wheezy->jessie |
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| 01:19.57 | emunah | "Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
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| 01:20.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell emunah about contrib |
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| 01:20.59 | Miesco | abrotman: I rather have my hard drive crash than read all that |
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| 01:25.21 | emunah | hmmmm it's not working, i put contrib and non-free after all of my repos in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:25.31 | Miesco | Okay looks like its upgrading, thanks! |
| 01:26.30 | abrotman | emunah: did you apt-get update after? |
| 01:26.48 | emunah | oh no |
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| 01:28.54 | runlevl4 | it's good habit to always update before installing etc |
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| 01:31.52 | emunah | ok well i ran "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" |
| 01:32.10 | emunah | they seem to install fine |
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| 01:38.48 | emunah | hbogo still not working |
| 01:39.05 | emunah | i did the drm test and the video never played even though i deleted NativeCache |
| 01:39.11 | emunah | NativeCache never got rebuilt |
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| 02:28.15 | DebianGNU | Has anyone reported their screen totally freezing in Debian 8 with MATE? |
| 02:30.31 | abrotman | Sounds more like a driver issue |
| 02:30.34 | Amarande | not that I've heard of |
| 02:30.37 | abrotman | (or hardware) |
| 02:30.48 | Amarande | are you able still to ctrl-alt-f1 to reach a text terminal, or is the system entirely frozen? |
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| 02:31.23 | Amarande | if X is frozen, you should still be able to reach a text terminal |
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| 02:31.40 | Amarande | if you can't reach a text terminal at all, then you've probably experienced kernel panic, which means something's wrong with a driver |
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| 02:32.19 | Amarande | as a non-root userland application should never be able to cause a kernel panic (that would be a serious bug with kernel or cpu, and most of the latter I think were ironed out years ago, e.g., f00f bug, cyrix coma bug etc.) |
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| 02:32.40 | abrotman | or the hardware is overheating and just dying ... |
| 02:32.50 | Amarande | or you may have defective system ram |
| 02:32.52 | Amarande | run memtest86+ |
| 02:33.45 | Amarande | only time I've recently experienced graphics card overheating was in star wars: the old republic on windows, and it was always attended by the screen going all weird as well, not just a "the system just stopped" thing |
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| 02:52.05 | bieyeik2aX | I'm with Debian 8 and Mate, no problem at all |
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| 03:36.36 | nebbia | hello everyone i installed debian 8 with xfce |
| 03:36.53 | nebbia | have problems with auotoounting usb... since it opens in read only mode |
| 03:37.01 | nebbia | any idea how to solve this ? |
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| 03:42.57 | i5um41ru | i need help on this, my filesystem is in readonly http://pastie.org/10267334 |
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| 03:44.30 | dvs | i5um41ru: Your CD-ROM is mounted read-only |
| 03:44.41 | wsky | i5um41ru: what does mount -o remount /dev/sda1 do? |
| 03:44.48 | wsky | -i remount,rw* |
| 03:45.00 | wsky | i mean, -o remount,rw |
| 03:45.42 | i5um41ru | wsky: it say you must specify a filesystem |
| 03:45.53 | i5um41ru | dvs, no i'm not using any CD-ROM |
| 03:46.15 | wsky | uhm |
| 03:46.25 | wsky | i5um41ru: you mean that your fat filesystem is ro |
| 03:46.26 | jaggzed | why's everything gotta be so difficult.. this software wants openjdk.. tests it with lib/tools.jar. had jre installed, needed jdk. installed 7-jdk.. software complains that it wants version 6. my debian (testing) doesn't have 6-jdk, only jre |
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| 03:48.53 | wsky | i5um41ru: try mount -t vfat -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 /your/mountpoint |
| 03:49.19 | wsky | or without even the mount point sice it's already mounted |
| 03:49.29 | i5um41ru | wsky: i'm currently running my ubuntu with live CD, because I can't login into my main OS, debian |
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| 03:50.07 | wsky | why can't you login to your debian? |
| 03:50.49 | i5um41ru | wsky: yes, i can't login in first boot text only, something say systemd-tmpfiles[175] ... read only filesystem |
| 03:51.21 | wsky | can you show me the fstab from that system? |
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| 03:51.59 | wsky | also provide some more info, take a pic when it happens and upload it somewhere |
| 03:52.10 | i5um41ru | wsky: what to type? i don't know, sorry i don't know much about sysadmin. |
| 03:52.23 | wsky | the contents of the /etc/fstab file |
| 03:52.30 | wsky | cat /etc/fstab |
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| 03:53.32 | i5um41ru | wsky: here is for the fstab http://pastie.org/10267345 |
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| 03:54.06 | wsky | i5um41ru: this is fstab from your livecd |
| 03:54.16 | wsky | i need the fstab from the debian filesystem |
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| 03:58.05 | i5um41ru | wsky: what do you think about this http://postimg.org/image/ug8lvkvx1/ this happen when i try to login |
| 03:59.33 | wsky | well, something is broken! |
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| 03:59.56 | i5um41ru | wsky: -_-, any idea about this? |
| 03:59.58 | wsky | and i'm unsure is this you or is this systemd |
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| 04:00.51 | wsky | you still haven't shown me your fstab |
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| 04:02.14 | i5um41ru | wsky: wait, since if want to show the fstab, means i need to restart this pc. |
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| 04:03.14 | jd1 | cants you mount your system and get it off? |
| 04:03.25 | jd1 | wow. thats what she said |
| 04:03.27 | jd1 | anyways |
| 04:03.39 | jd1 | mount or chroot in |
| 04:03.43 | i5um41ru | wsky: i'm trying another way. with e2fsck -cf /dev/sda1 |
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| 04:04.05 | wsky | ah so you have a prompt |
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| 04:04.09 | wsky | ? |
| 04:04.50 | wsky | or are you ding this using the live system |
| 04:05.04 | i5um41ru | wsky: i'm running live ubuntu as an alternatif to search for this problem |
| 04:05.14 | i5um41ru | wsky: yes, live system |
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| 04:05.26 | wsky | well running fsck is a good idea in this situation |
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| 04:08.26 | wsky | i5um41ru: what debian is it? |
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| 04:10.48 | i5um41ru | wsky: debian 8 |
| 04:11.11 | wsky | i5um41ru: and when it started happening? |
| 04:11.18 | wsky | i mean when it stopped working |
| 04:11.24 | wsky | what did you do before |
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| 04:14.01 | wsky | it's a spambot |
| 04:14.03 | i5um41ru | wsky: well, first i'm using SSD as my HDD, and this happens sometimes. Each time the batter power reach low level , zero. Suddenly the os sleep (or shutdown maybe), charing it and then yup, like the screenhost upload. I don't know is this a problem with my SSD, or with the system. Since that i never get this kind of problem before i change my hdd |
| 04:14.20 | i5um41ru | -battery--- |
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| 04:14.38 | i5um41ru | --charing-- |
| 04:14.43 | i5um41ru | i mean charging.. |
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| 04:15.12 | i5um41ru | wsky: well, it's done, well log off now, i wish my problem solved |
| 04:15.16 | i5um41ru | exit |
| 04:15.26 | wsky | i5um41ru: probably it does not catch in putting your machine to sleep and the filesystem gets damaged |
| 04:15.47 | Amarande | yeah sounds like laptops really need ssds with supercaps |
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| 04:19.20 | Character7 | Hello, quick and stupid question for anyone familiar with Cinnamon desktop environment ... The "menu" gear likes to get super big on hover and it annoys the stuffing out of me. How can I safely disable this? |
| 04:20.55 | Character7 | It seems like a hover effect; however, no hover options appear in right click dialogue. |
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| 04:35.31 | Character7 | Anyone? |
| 04:36.39 | Character7 | Hello, quick and stupid question for anyone familiar with Cinnamon desktop environment ... The "menu" gear likes to get super big on hover and it annoys the stuffing out of me. How can I safely disable this? |
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| 04:48.50 | shay_shay | :D |
| 04:49.36 | mech422__ | Anyone around that could help with a problem regarding 'install' and a simple .deb I'm creating ? |
| 04:50.04 | shay_shay | ask |
| 04:50.22 | mech422__ | I pasted the 3 lines to #flood - for some reason sudoers.d is ending up as a FILE with the contents of ops_users |
| 04:50.36 | shay_shay | i am not in #flood, try a pastebin site |
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| 04:50.52 | shay_shay | ...so everyone can see it |
| 04:51.28 | shay_shay | e.g. paste.debian.net |
| 04:53.06 | mech422__ | shay_shay: http://paste.debian.net/272404/ |
| 04:53.31 | mech422__ | btw - the join message actually says to use #flood - might need to update it ? |
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| 04:54.46 | mech422__ | all it should be doing is copying 2 sudoers files to a sudoers.d directory...but somehow I bolloxed it up :-/ |
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| 04:59.29 | shay_shay | install -m 440 -t sudoers.d/lxvm $(DESTDIR)$(etcdir)/sudoers.d |
| 04:59.44 | shay_shay | wait |
| 04:59.52 | shay_shay | install [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY SOURCE... |
| 05:00.02 | shay_shay | install [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY |
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| 05:00.29 | shay_shay | i think if you name three files it assumes the first two are source and therefore the third must be a destination |
| 05:00.33 | shay_shay | just a guess |
| 05:00.39 | mech422__ | shay_shay: Hmm... |
| 05:00.50 | shay_shay | but if you use -t you can force it to use a directory |
| 05:00.55 | shay_shay | according to the man page! |
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| 05:01.37 | shay_shay | s/therefore the third must be a destination/therefore the third must be a directory |
| 05:01.56 | mech422__ | I only have 2 parameters though ? |
| 05:02.22 | iseverynametaken | I was reading the securing debian manual, and for the installation, it says not to use net install and to pull updates from a local mirror. Is this a serious concern? I imagine that all the updates are cryptographically signed and that a firewall is running during installation, no? |
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| 05:03.05 | shay_shay | yeah so try install -m 440 -t $(DESTDIR)$(etcdir)/sudoers.d sudoers.d/lxvm |
| 05:03.07 | shay_shay | or: |
| 05:03.15 | themill | iseverynametaken: the concern is that a mirror of the security archive might not be up to date which means you miss updates. |
| 05:03.35 | shay_shay | install -m 440 sudoers.d/lxvm sudoers.d/ops_users $(DESTDIR)$(etcdir)/sudoers.d |
| 05:04.18 | shay_shay | mech422__: the first example will work according to the manual, but it might work if you just name both files first and the directory last |
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| 05:04.37 | iseverynametaken | themill: the manual seems to be more concerned with connecting an unupdated computer with the internet. But if there's no known security flaws in the debian image, it seems pointless to worry about? |
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| 05:06.22 | mech422__ | shay_shay: ohh - haven't tried it that way yet...let me give that a go.. |
| 05:06.26 | mech422__ | shay_shay: Thanks! |
| 05:06.47 | themill | iseverynametaken: oh... I misread you. Yes, it is possible that the netinst image has a vulnerable kernel when it is first fired up. I don't think we've seen a remotely accessible vulnerability like that in the installation media for a good long time though |
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| 05:07.50 | themill | iseverynametaken: it always comes down to "what threat are you trying to prevent?", "how likely is it really?", "how much effort am I prepared to make to mitigate that threat?", "how paranoid do I feel today?". |
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| 05:09.56 | iseverynametaken | themill: right, I feel like worrying about the netinst when there's no known vulernerability is silly. If you're that concerned about connecting the machine to the internet, then maybe that machine shouldn't connect to the internet at all lol |
| 05:10.23 | iseverynametaken | thanks for the help |
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| 05:10.41 | themill | np. A powered down machine is certainly less vulnerable than a powered on one. |
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| 05:11.02 | iseverynametaken | lolol |
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| 05:25.27 | mrrhq | I know someone's going to hate me for this, but I am so tempted to try out PC-BSD on one of my laptops. |
| 05:25.49 | mrrhq | Just wondering how far it's gotten. |
| 05:26.54 | mrrhq | How else do I say that Debian gets dull and boring sometimes? |
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| 05:29.53 | zacts | mrrhq: hm... I've been considereing pcbsd too |
| 05:29.57 | pencilandpaper | i have thought about it and tried to boot it but it wouldnt boot mrrhq . so i wasnt able to check it out. |
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| 05:32.01 | mrrhq | pencilandpaper: Sounds like a challenge for me. Goodie. |
| 05:32.25 | Amarande | I wonder what this Google vs Oracle thing might potentially do to traditional Linux use ... probably nothing, *unless* ... |
| 05:32.42 | Amarande | there seems to be some anxiety that it might essentially mean Android phones are just plain banned |
| 05:32.52 | Amarande | which would be a horrid blow to Linux by indirect |
| 05:33.20 | Amarande | (both iOS and Windows phones suck in conjunction with a Linux PC, meaning that without Android phones it's that much more of a pain to be mobile as well as desktopped ...) |
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| 05:35.10 | pencilandpaper | there you go mrrhq ..have fun man. :) |
| 05:35.29 | Lady_Aleena | How long was Wheezy the stable? |
| 05:35.49 | wsky | around 2 years |
| 05:35.56 | pencilandpaper | i am over here watching something now mrrhq ..chillin. |
| 05:36.09 | Lady_Aleena | Only 2 years? *face palm* |
| 05:36.21 | mrrhq | I'll need my Ethernet cord. If there's anything I've learned, Wi-Fi usually does not work out of the box unless it's Atheros. |
| 05:36.52 | pencilandpaper | mine always works. |
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| 05:37.13 | Lady_Aleena | I need at least 5 to get over the trauma of upgrading from wheezy to jessie. |
| 05:37.13 | mrrhq | Amarande: Nobody could probably cound how many times people have tried to sue Google. |
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| 05:37.37 | mrrhq | Oracle doesn't care ablot Linux as much as Sun, and Google has all the money to buy software patents anyway. |
| 05:37.50 | pencilandpaper | i luck out a lot since i tend to stick with intel..but as far as wifi i usually go to /lib/firmware and get the drivers from a Puppy Linux install that i have and get my wifi drivers and then move them to my debian installs to get wifi working..then i am good to go. |
| 05:37.52 | mrrhq | Darn software patents. Lol. |
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| 05:38.35 | mrrhq | True, I guess I could have a Wi-Fi card that doesn't work with Linux or BSD at all, but it's quite rare. |
| 05:38.46 | mrrhq | I just mean I'd want it working OOTB. |
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| 05:39.36 | pencilandpaper | well then grab a Puppy Linux and put it on a stick..if it works for you right out of the box then you know what to do. exactly what i just mentioned..it works. |
| 05:40.08 | pencilandpaper | i only have wifi, so thats how i have to do things even when installing Debian. |
| 05:40.24 | pencilandpaper | i dont do the net installs, i do the iso's. |
| 05:40.29 | mrrhq | Yeah, Puppy Linux is allowed to do that. Debian just doesn't do it because of the DFSG they have up I believe. |
| 05:40.45 | pencilandpaper | right right.. |
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| 05:41.08 | mrrhq | Oh, I wish I could lend you my USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet adapter. |
| 05:41.16 | mrrhq | Works with Linux, also with USB 2.0. |
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| 05:42.06 | pencilandpaper | thats decent..so it takes a wifi signal and allows for you plug in and get the connection through a ethernet cable? |
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| 05:42.35 | mrrhq | It's handy when working with older hardware. I also have an Atheros Wireless-N dongle, but I mistakingly found out that it needs ath9k-htc |
| 05:42.47 | mrrhq | The htc one is not in Debian installer by default. |
| 05:43.17 | Amarande | mrrhq: the gold standard for linux seems pretty much to be newegg's Rosewill RNX-N150PCe internal PCIe card |
| 05:43.28 | Amarande | that one's AR9485, which is basically as Linux friendly as it can possibly get |
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| 05:43.34 | mrrhq | pencilandpaper: No it allows you to turn a USB port into an ethernet port, basically. |
| 05:43.46 | pencilandpaper | ok i see mrrhq ..thanks. |
| 05:43.56 | mrrhq | Maybe I can find an Amazon link. |
| 05:44.04 | pencilandpaper | see well the beauty in using a laptop is a built-in wifi card man..you cant beat that. |
| 05:44.28 | pencilandpaper | i remember when wifi cards plugged in to the laptop. what were they called, ummm..i forget now. |
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| 05:45.02 | mrrhq | http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters®-SuperSpeed-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00BBD7NFU |
| 05:45.17 | mrrhq | It's much cheaper than when I first bought it. Look at dem ratings. Yep. |
| 05:45.38 | mrrhq | If it's over USB 2.0, then speed is bottlenecked to 100Mbps, which is not too bad. |
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| 05:46.25 | pencilandpaper | no, thats not too bad. |
| 05:46.43 | Amarande | pencilandpaper: PCMCIA cards? |
| 05:47.28 | BuzzardBuzz | pcmcia cards for 10Mbps ethernet |
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| 05:47.41 | pencilandpaper | no, i forget what they were called Amarande , they plugged in so that you could get wifi from your router when that first started. |
| 05:48.11 | BuzzardBuzz | usb for wifi |
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| 05:48.21 | BuzzardBuzz | or cardbus |
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| 05:48.56 | pencilandpaper | it was a wifi card that slid in to a slot BuzzardBuzz ..i forget the name of the router..and the card. |
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| 05:49.09 | BuzzardBuzz | the slot was cardbus |
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| 05:49.24 | BuzzardBuzz | or usb |
| 05:49.27 | pencilandpaper | well the name of the card though is what i cant remember. |
| 05:49.51 | BuzzardBuzz | wireless b/g |
| 05:50.03 | pencilandpaper | no. |
| 05:50.16 | shingouz | pencilandpaper: the first ones were PCMCIA and were 16-bit, later there was an addition to the PCMCIA called Cardbus and that was 32-bit. a 16-bit card works in a 32-bit slot, but not vice versa |
| 05:50.28 | BuzzardBuzz | maybe just b, wireless b was first popular one |
| 05:50.31 | Lady_Aleena | Um, why is it that I suddenly don't have permission to access localhost? |
| 05:50.59 | pencilandpaper | Linksys is what they were called. :) |
| 05:51.06 | Lady_Aleena | I just got a 403 error. Did the upgrade from wheezy to jessie mess up my Apache setup? |
| 05:51.09 | BuzzardBuzz | that is a brand name |
| 05:51.16 | shingouz | pencilandpaper: linksys is a brand name... |
| 05:51.17 | BuzzardBuzz | made by cisco |
| 05:51.19 | pencilandpaper | yeah, well those are what i remember using. |
| 05:51.28 | shingouz | !pcmcia |
| 05:51.28 | dpkg | [pcmcia] PC Card (originally PCMCIA) is a hardware expansion technology for laptop computers. Install the pcmciautils package to provide PCMCIA initialisation tools. No socket driver loaded? (e.g. old system with ISA-to-PCMCIA bridge): modprobe i82365, tcic or i82092 and add the working module's name to /etc/modules. To identify a PC Card device, see http://wiki.debian.org/HowToIdentifyADevice/PC_Card . See also <cis>. |
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| 05:53.00 | Lady_Aleena | I got "Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server." |
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| 05:54.10 | pencilandpaper | are we still alllowed to connect to freenode using Tor? |
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| 05:54.47 | Amarande | yay now I'm compiling source code in a thunderstorm :) |
| 05:55.01 | pencilandpaper | lol Amarande . |
| 05:55.11 | Lady_Aleena | I'm not doing anything because I can't seem to access localhost. |
| 05:55.18 | Lady_Aleena | ...in my browser. |
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| 05:55.33 | mrrhq | !expresscard |
| 05:55.39 | mrrhq | Lol. |
| 05:55.58 | mrrhq | I have one of those rare laptops where I use Expresscard 54 instead of 34. |
| 05:56.06 | mrrhq | Kinda cool. |
| 05:57.40 | Lady_Aleena | I take it there are no Apache users here at the moment. |
| 05:57.47 | pencilandpaper | thats cool mrrhq . |
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| 05:58.25 | Lady_Aleena | bangs her head against a metaphorical wall. |
| 05:58.35 | pencilandpaper | Lady_Aleena, :) |
| 05:59.22 | mrrhq | I would be the time of dude who would use lighttpd or Nginex over Apache. |
| 05:59.28 | mrrhq | **type |
| 05:59.56 | mrrhq | Cool fact that YouTube uses lighttpd. |
| 06:00.04 | shingouz | Lady_Aleena: maybe there is something called #apache? sounds like that might be a problem with some permission or another, maybe the apaches would be able to give a hint |
| 06:00.27 | Lady_Aleena | shingouz, I didn't have this problem BEFORE the upgrade from wheezy to jessie. |
| 06:00.33 | mrrhq | Oh yeah, best to use the right channel. |
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| 06:01.15 | Lady_Aleena | Also, Debian meddled a lot with the Apache configs, so the Apache people may send me back here. |
| 06:01.44 | shingouz | Lady_Aleena: i see... and i should be quiet as i do not run apache :) |
| 06:02.05 | Lady_Aleena | I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow then. |
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| 06:02.19 | BuzzardBuzz | i have gotten apachi to run on wheezy without issue |
| 06:02.30 | shingouz | Lady_Aleena: this is just a guess: dpkg-reconfigure apache? |
| 06:03.10 | BuzzardBuzz | are you using jessie or wheezy with the apache issues? |
| 06:03.23 | Lady_Aleena | BuzzardBuzz, jessie. |
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| 06:04.13 | BuzzardBuzz | so when you installed it, it starts up and runs or what do your logs say? |
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| 06:06.04 | Lady_Aleena | BuzzardBuzz, I was in my browser. I typed 'localhost' into the address bar. I got 'Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server.'. This tells me something has gone wrong. |
| 06:06.48 | Lady_Aleena | I installed Apache when I was using wheezy, and I still have installed (though maybe upgraded) when I upgraded to jessie. |
| 06:07.43 | at0m|c | Lady_Aleena: i think apache crossed a milestone there and has all new config syntax. (or was that when i went to stretch) |
| 06:08.49 | Lady_Aleena | So does that mean I have to set it up all over again?! |
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| 06:09.05 | at0m|c | it's been maybe a year since i ditched apache, so i'm suspecting it was wheezy->jessie upgrade that did it |
| 06:09.19 | BuzzardBuzz | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat |
| 06:09.43 | BuzzardBuzz | apache is incompatable from wheezy to jessie upgrade |
| 06:09.51 | at0m|c | there you go ^ |
| 06:09.54 | pencilandpaper | goodnight everyone. |
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| 06:10.44 | Lady_Aleena | head desks. |
| 06:11.13 | TuxShells | Don't hurt the desk. |
| 06:11.42 | BuzzardBuzz | lady_Aleena you the issue is likely solvabable wi th some research, you are not the only one that has found out there is a problem with that upgrade |
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| 06:12.35 | BuzzardBuzz | the init and systemd issue might be causing trouble too |
| 06:12.43 | BuzzardBuzz | for you with that |
| 06:12.55 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: where is your root document? |
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| 06:16.04 | Lady_Aleena | ~/Documents/fantasy/ |
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| 06:18.40 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: now make a folder in ~/Documents and mv fantasy in there. We're doing this so other plugin/software can put their conf files there without exposing it to the web server |
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| 06:19.33 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, ~/Documents/fantasy is the location of my web site files. No configs are there. |
| 06:19.44 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: i would go with something like ~/Documents/html/fantasy |
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| 06:20.04 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, add yet another level down? |
| 06:20.06 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: i know. I'm helping you secure it for future plugin/software that likes to put their conf in the doc root |
| 06:20.09 | Lady_Aleena | head desks. |
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| 06:20.35 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, when you say "doc root", what are you talking about, exactly? |
| 06:21.17 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: you it will be clear to you soon. just follow for a bit and you'll see. the way of wheezy apache was /var/www |
| 06:21.42 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, I know which I changed to ~/Documents/fantasy/ |
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| 06:22.04 | Lady_Aleena | Well, I used the full path. |
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| 06:22.25 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: just follow and i'll help you configure a secure way |
| 06:22.29 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, where are the new Apache configire files? |
| 06:22.35 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: debian way isn't the same as apache's default |
| 06:22.45 | Lady_Aleena | Damn! I am so tired, I can't type tonight. |
| 06:22.49 | pragomer | when I create a new udev rule, is it then effective instantly or do I have to do a reboot? |
| 06:22.53 | themill | Did you fix your apache http configuration as instructed by the package's NEWS file? |
| 06:23.02 | centurion18 | hi people |
| 06:23.08 | BuzzardBuzz | hello |
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| 06:23.21 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: have you made a directory and put fantasy in it ? |
| 06:23.46 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: the apache2.conf is located in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 06:24.25 | themill | not that you should be touching that file |
| 06:25.31 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: modify the part where it says /var/www to fullpath of ~/Documents/yournewfoldername |
| 06:25.45 | themill | Equa: please don't... |
| 06:25.53 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: dont' add fantasy in yet |
| 06:26.12 | Equa | themill: you want me to help her move it back to the regular spot? |
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| 06:26.51 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: are you the only user on the computer? i host my website in my home folder as well |
| 06:26.57 | themill | Equa: there's no need to edit the files that are shipped in the apache packages. Doing so just creates an on-going maintenance burden |
| 06:27.13 | themill | /etc/apache2/sites-* exists for a reason |
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| 06:27.23 | Equa | themill: that is where i'm gonna add the fantasy in |
| 06:27.40 | themill | no, you said /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 06:27.54 | Equa | yes. she can do all in one spot |
| 06:28.07 | themill | and that's exactly what I'm saying is not a good thing to do |
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| 06:28.31 | Equa | themill: but we're just setting the root doc. i guess she could put everything in the site-available conf |
| 06:28.36 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, I just went to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf and it has the correct directory already listed as the one I want as DocumentRoot |
| 06:29.07 | themill | yes, the idea is to never modify the packaged files. There's no need to. |
| 06:29.18 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: apache need read and excute on all directories leading to the site |
| 06:29.38 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, what? |
| 06:29.40 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: your files will only need read permission |
| 06:29.53 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, they are already 755. |
| 06:30.12 | themill | Lady_Aleena: you need to update the config syntax |
| 06:30.33 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: k permissions are set. check if the site is enabled |
| 06:30.35 | themill | (and if you're tired, I predict this is better done another day) |
| 06:30.41 | Lady_Aleena | So DocumentRoot is no longer the correct term for the root directory then. |
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| 06:30.52 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: it's a security change |
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| 06:31.16 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: some software like to put their config in the doc root so they moved it host a subdirectory |
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| 06:31.53 | Lady_Aleena | I wish Debian would have left httpd.conf as all one big happy file. |
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| 06:32.28 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: it's easier this way though. you dont' mess with that file and you just load your extra conf in the includes directory |
| 06:32.29 | themill | Lady_Aleena: you can make it that if you want, but then you have to fix the entire thing every upgrade rather than let the maintainer scripts do things for you |
| 06:32.40 | asterismo | how do i disable the server to startx? and just drop to a shell? |
| 06:32.47 | asterismo | i'm running debian KDE |
| 06:32.51 | themill | dpkg: tell asterismo about nod |
| 06:32.51 | Lady_Aleena | So, if I am reading this right, I have to put something in my /fantasy/ directory so Apache will let me see the files in my browser? |
| 06:32.53 | themill | dpkg: tell asterismo about nodm |
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| 06:34.52 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: if you dont' want to do it the secure way and dont' run other software with the webserver, you don't need to put fantasy in a subfolder |
| 06:35.05 | asterismo | and how do i modprobe modules on startup? |
| 06:35.12 | asterismo | load modules |
| 06:35.23 | Equa | asterismo: do lsmod to see what's loaded |
| 06:35.38 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, I use Apache to view my work, but I upload the files to a web server after they are done. |
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| 06:37.59 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a web page which has these instructions all laid out in simple terms? |
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| 06:38.19 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: i'm just security consciousness |
| 06:38.27 | asterismo | the module is not loaded at startup |
| 06:38.38 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: looking for it now |
| 06:38.39 | asterismo | so i want the modprobe to be persistent |
| 06:38.39 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, I just want this as simple and as shallow as possible. |
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| 06:39.02 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: only one easy change is hosting it under 1 directory of the doc root |
| 06:39.08 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: that's the only changed |
| 06:39.10 | Lady_Aleena | I don't want to add another level of directories. Some of my directories already to pretty deep. |
| 06:39.32 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: that's fine. i'll look for a simple link as you wish |
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| 06:40.09 | ShalokShalom | hi there :) |
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| 06:40.19 | ShalokShalom | where can i find the non free images of jessie, please ? |
| 06:40.29 | Lady_Aleena | I mean this is deep enough ~/Documents/fantasy/files/lib/RolePlaying/WorldBuilding/HighLevelCampaigns |
| 06:40.30 | themill | Lady_Aleena: you really need to read and comprehend the second news entry in /usr/share/doc/apache2/NEWS.Debian.gz |
| 06:40.34 | knivsta | hi |
| 06:40.59 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: i understood. the thing is doc root doesn't show up. You will still type the same thing to see your site |
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| 06:41.45 | Lady_Aleena | themill, it appears /usr/share/doc/apache2/NEWS.Debian.gz is a binary file. |
| 06:42.01 | themill | Lady_Aleena: .gz |
| 06:42.05 | bertro | could it be an archive |
| 06:42.19 | Lady_Aleena | I hope I didn't mess it up when I tried 'more /usr/share/doc/apache2/NEWS.Debian.gz' |
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| 06:43.22 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, the question now is, how do I read /usr/share/doc/apache2/NEWS.Debian.gz? |
| 06:43.23 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: the guides here are decent. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-the-apache-web-server-on-an-ubuntu-or-debian-vps |
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| 06:44.34 | pragomer | whats wrong about this (very simple) udev-rule: http://pastebin.com/7wk5qbBx it does nothing when I plug my usb-stick (sdc) on |
| 06:45.16 | themill | pragomer: that would run as root and I doubt root has the config or ability to open an X11 program |
| 06:45.32 | at0m|c | Lady_Aleena: try zmore or zless for /usr/share/doc/apache2/NEWS.Debian.gz |
| 06:46.16 | pragomer | themill: ok.. I also tried to run a script with udev in my home folder that just runs gedit... did not work either |
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| 06:46.41 | veek | how do you set your xterm to chinese |
| 06:46.42 | themill | pragomer: the script is still run by root |
| 06:46.46 | veek | or mlterm |
| 06:47.07 | pragomer | how can I tell in the udev-rule to run it as normal user? |
| 06:47.16 | veek | i've set locale as LANGUAGE=zh_CN.utf8 within mlterm and mlterm itself is UTF-8 |
| 06:47.45 | ShalokShalom | where can i find the non free images of jessie, please ? |
| 06:47.58 | Lady_Aleena | My eyes are burning; I'm so tired. |
| 06:48.00 | pragomer | themill: sorry... how can I tell in the udev-rule to run it as normal user? |
| 06:48.08 | veek | what's the significance of zh_CN.utf8 vs en_US.utf8.. utf-8 is utf-8 why the en/zn |
| 06:48.47 | at0m|c | ShalokShalom: there isn't any. images are free. you can add non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list lines if you want non-free |
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| 06:49.09 | themill | dpkg: tell ShalokShalom about firmware images |
| 06:49.19 | jelly | veek: you don't have to set xterm to chinese, you just need to tell it to use a font that actually has those glyphs |
| 06:49.35 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730372 |
| 06:49.36 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/730372 in apache2 (closed): «apache2: Please change the default document root to /var/www/html»; severity: important; opened: 2013-11-24; last modified: 2014-03-05. |
| 06:49.44 | ShalokShalom | themill: at0m|c: there are some for wheezy: http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 06:49.49 | themill | Equa: I don't believe that's relevant |
| 06:50.33 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, I'm reading the link you gave me. So under "Enabling Sites and Modules in Apache" there is a mention of 'sudo a2ensite virtual_host_file_name'. The virtual_host_file_name is the directory I'm using? |
| 06:50.54 | themill | Lady_Aleena: have you fixed the config? |
| 06:51.14 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: yes. you can go into /etc/apache2/sites-enable to make sure it's enabled |
| 06:51.17 | veek | jelly, isn't that what setting xterm to chinese is.. i mean.. a font-family won't have all characters so.. hmm.. doesn't xterm read locale and pick the appropriate font.. or do i have to start it up from scratch with the font loaded |
| 06:51.18 | ShalokShalom | at0m|c: /etc/apt/sources.list help less, when i want to use a WLAN chip, which is just supported via the non free drivers (and WLAN my only option to connect in the web) |
| 06:51.20 | Lady_Aleena | themill, it looks okay according to the link I'm reading. |
| 06:51.30 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: do all your modifications first |
| 06:51.35 | themill | Lady_Aleena: maybe you could pastebin it |
| 06:51.56 | themill | given that the guide you are looking at is out of date... |
| 06:52.10 | ShalokShalom | themill: thanks :) |
| 06:52.10 | jelly | veek: start it from scratch with right -fn option |
| 06:52.24 | themill | pragomer: no way that I know of |
| 06:52.59 | jelly | veek: some other terminal emulators can try to wing it and use replacements from other fonts, but xterm does not AFAIK |
| 06:53.07 | Lady_Aleena | themill, hold on, I'm trying to find where the file is again. |
| 06:53.23 | ShalokShalom | themill: that is just netinstall |
| 06:53.31 | ShalokShalom | live please :) |
| 06:53.34 | ShalokShalom | see my link |
| 06:53.47 | themill | ShalokShalom: ahh.. that's not what you asked for |
| 06:53.50 | veek | jelly, how do i pick the font xfontsel? |
| 06:53.55 | ShalokShalom | there are some for wheezy: http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 06:54.15 | ShalokShalom | live images are standard today, sorry |
| 06:54.37 | Lady_Aleena | themill, http://paste.debian.net/272637/ |
| 06:54.37 | themill | ShalokShalom: if you want to install, you're much better off with the installer images. |
| 06:54.54 | veek | there's -guobiao-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* daewoo etc |
| 06:54.56 | ShalokShalom | i want a KDE SC 4 live image |
| 06:55.19 | ShalokShalom | do they dont work proper for installations ? |
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| 06:55.55 | ShalokShalom | there are images for 7.6, so i guess this list is just outdated :) |
| 06:56.01 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: your documentroot and directory don't match up |
| 06:56.15 | Lady_Aleena | Equa, PM please? |
| 06:56.16 | themill | Lady_Aleena: so you need to update that syntax as I have been saying. |
| 06:56.59 | Lady_Aleena | themill, is there a document for very tired people which tells me which lines to change and how? |
| 06:57.17 | themill | Lady_Aleena: my suggestion about half an hour ago was to do this another day because I knew this would happen. |
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| 06:57.43 | Equa | Lady_Aleena: i'll make one for you. let me paste it. then you cna modify or copy it |
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| 06:58.14 | Lady_Aleena | themill, since my surgery, I've not been sleeping well for the last several weeks. |
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| 06:58.35 | themill | Lady_Aleena: sure. So leaving it for another day would be fine |
| 06:59.07 | jelly | veek: if you're using a bitmapped font, once you choose pxlsz, encoding, etc. and find something looking nice, click "select" and then middle-button paste somewhere (in a terminal or editor) |
| 06:59.21 | pragomer | And what is wrong about THIS udev rule? http://pastebin.com/r24CuJk1 |
| 06:59.25 | Lady_Aleena | themill, I'm sorry I'm so snippy, but I didn't know my whole system would get mucked up in the upgrade from wheezy to jessie. I assumed things like Apache were untouchable. |
| 07:00.05 | themill | Lady_Aleena: the release notes document that you need to fix your apache config. That's why we told you to read them... and why we were unimpressed when you chose not to. |
| 07:00.07 | jelly | veek: make sure to use a font that uses utf8 encoding with uxterm, so *-*-*...-iso10646-1 |
| 07:00.08 | Lady_Aleena | themill, other things have also been lost which I have to recreate, and this is just one of them. |
| 07:01.07 | themill | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat |
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| 07:01.38 | veek | jelly, gahh! |
| 07:01.54 | ShalokShalom | themill: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 07:06.12 | veek | jelly i did dpkg -l|grep -i chine; then xlsfonts|grep -i cns and got a bunch -cbs-song-medium-r-normal-fantizi-16-160-75-75-c-160-cns11643.1992-3 |
| 07:06.25 | veek | but xterm acts weird when i -fn that |
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| 07:07.47 | jelly | veek: I have no idea what encoding is "cns11643.1992-3" but it's _not_ "iso10646-1" |
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| 07:09.01 | jelly | veek: go install something like unifont to have a fallback to test. It's not the prettiest |
| 07:09.19 | veek | /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/neep-alt-iso10646-1-06x13-bold.pcf.gz |
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| 07:15.52 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, I see I need to change 'Order allow,deny'; 'Allow from all' to 'Require all granted'. so far. |
| 07:15.58 | jelly | veek: also that page does not say which codepage it's using, and I bet lynx doesn't even try to guess (unlike firefox) |
| 07:17.22 | veek | jelly got something working..http://imgur.com/DCotsCj |
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| 07:18.11 | jelly | veek: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ outputs UTF-8 and looks fine with lynx or elinks inside uxterm -fn '-*-unifont-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1' |
| 07:18.37 | veek | http://i.imgur.com/VIFFXke.png and then it gets a bit corrupted |
| 07:18.48 | jelly | veek: that looks sane-ish |
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| 07:19.20 | jelly | to my eye, but I can't read it |
| 07:19.37 | veek | check the second link.. there are some odd chars |
| 07:20.12 | veek | happens even with the wiki |
| 07:21.03 | Lady_Aleena | themill, do I need to read anything else after http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html |
| 07:21.13 | veek | basically my script b0rks for some reason (python) and i need CN support |
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| 07:21.51 | jelly | veek: your script will have to guess the correct input encoding |
| 07:21.54 | veek | ah much better |
| 07:22.07 | veek | jelly thanks you're a genius it's working somewhat |
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| 07:23.11 | veek | how the heck do i get less to support utf now.. grr! that b0rks with unicode error |
| 07:23.38 | veek | ah hmm LANG |
| 07:23.58 | jelly | <meta charset="gbk"> <- not utf-8, that's gb2312 I think |
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| 07:25.15 | veek | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 1288-1289: ordinal not in range(128) |
| 07:25.21 | veek | that's with less |
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| 07:25.31 | veek | but when i run it on the wiki it works great |
| 07:25.34 | themill | that's an error from python, not less |
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| 07:25.47 | themill | Lady_Aleena: that's the main thing by the looks of it |
| 07:26.17 | veek | ah hmm let me check on gbk |
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| 07:39.41 | veek | jelly i've set LANG=zh_CN.gbk; mlterm is encoding GBK and yet i get 'UnicodeEncodeError: 'gbk' codec can't encode character u'\ue600' in position 6843: illegal multibyte sequence' |
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| 07:40.39 | stack | hi, --set-selections gives me a lot of dpkg: warning: package not in database at line... I have contrib and non-free also, same debian release version, (packages that gives warnings are like wget, python2.6, rsync and many more), what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 07:41.40 | stack | the last line is dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this mean the available database is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method... what is this method? |
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| 07:44.00 | jelly | veek: do you have zh_CN.GBK (note uppercase) enabled in "dpkg-reconfigure locales" at all? |
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| 07:44.55 | veek | jelly yes |
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| 07:45.28 | veek | jelly http://imgur.com/B0basUB |
| 07:46.02 | jelly | dunno then |
| 07:46.58 | veek | let me caps it in locale |
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| 07:48.31 | stack | so, any suggestion from anyone, this is really strange and I never encountered this error |
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| 07:49.57 | themill | veek: from what I can see python is right -- you have a character in unicode that has no representation in GBK |
| 07:50.38 | veek | themill but the charset is GBK |
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| 07:51.02 | themill | the declared charset doesn't actually mean that the bytes received are in that charset |
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| 07:52.46 | themill | if you're receiving GBK, how are you turning it into unicode? |
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| 07:53.43 | veek | http://pastebin.com/qjT5hi38 |
| 07:54.14 | veek | themill i don't understand that unicode line well |
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| 07:54.52 | themill | my head hurts now... → #python is just over there |
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| 07:54.59 | veek | line 28, I get an object of type QByteArray but the data() contains utf8 |
| 07:55.07 | veek | heh |
| 07:55.25 | veek | yeah i think i've got the terminal right |
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| 08:02.09 | nonplusultra1 | hello |
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| 08:03.18 | nonplusultra1 | i am a newer using linux |
| 08:04.43 | nonplusultra1 | please helping me if you have books. |
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| 08:06.23 | at0m|c | nonplusultra1: https://wiki.debian.org/ is a good start |
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| 08:07.53 | dgriffi | wonders what the first language of that last person was... something indian? |
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| 08:08.40 | hypermist | how can i install libdb4.8-dev ? |
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| 08:12.26 | trae32566[w] | dgriffi: of course it was Indian |
| 08:12.30 | trae32566[w] | it's like 2PM there |
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| 08:15.47 | petn-randall | dgriffi, trae32566[w], geoiplookup says Vietnam. |
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| 08:19.53 | hypermist | how can i install libdb4.8-dev ?, anyone actually going to say ;( |
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| 08:26.53 | asterismo | so? |
| 08:27.01 | asterismo | how do i load modules at startup? |
| 08:27.10 | asterismo | modeprobe some_module |
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| 08:28.04 | dgriffi | I wonder what /etc/modules is for... |
| 08:28.50 | asterismo | really? |
| 08:28.59 | asterismo | i thauht tha tfile was removed long ago |
| 08:29.10 | asterismo | and replaces by other script or so |
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| 08:29.38 | asterismo | dgriffi: before or after the loop |
| 08:29.57 | dgriffi | asterismo: /etc/modules is for kernel modules to load at boot time |
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| 08:30.53 | asterismo | oh |
| 08:30.57 | asterismo | loop is a module |
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| 08:33.16 | at0m|c | asterismo: /etc/modprobe.d/ is a better place. /etc/modules can get overwritten on upgrade. |
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| 08:38.54 | phale | Hello, my wi-fi card wasn't working correctly so I got a dongle. i'm having the trouble finding the firmware and installing it, anyone can help ? |
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| 08:41.46 | phale | it has some letters on the dongle named "edup" |
| 08:41.58 | phale | i'm unsure which dongle model this is |
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| 08:43.20 | asterismo | at0m|c: but under whoch file? |
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| 08:43.34 | asterismo | like /etc/modprobe.d/whitelist? |
| 08:44.38 | asterismo | at0m|c: |
| 08:44.47 | at0m|c | asterismo: you can choose any name |
| 08:44.52 | at0m|c | afaik |
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| 08:45.44 | phale | synrGy: are you there? |
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| 08:53.20 | meaneye | Is there a way to enable logging for pulseaudio? |
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| 08:53.38 | meaneye | It keeps crashing on me whenever I open any kind of config tool (Gnome Control Center or pavucontrol). |
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| 08:55.06 | phale | so what do i do about the wifi dongle |
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| 08:56.18 | bertro | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:57.31 | phale | oh sorry |
| 08:57.33 | phale | i didnt put it in yet |
| 08:57.56 | phale | ok its in |
| 08:58.07 | bertro | google combinations of `idVendor` `idProduct` |
| 08:58.09 | bertro | heh |
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| 08:58.20 | phale | should i post the output to a pasting service |
| 08:58.33 | bertro | just feel free to google it out |
| 08:58.36 | phale | http://codepad.org/nrPHuqM5 |
| 08:58.37 | phale | ok |
| 08:58.58 | bertro | one of the worst things that could happen is learning something new ;) |
| 08:59.39 | bertro | is this it? |
| 08:59.41 | bertro | `Bus 001 Device 007: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter` |
| 08:59.44 | phale | yes probably |
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| 08:59.54 | phale | it says its from "EDUP" on the front though |
| 08:59.56 | phale | not Ralink |
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| 09:02.16 | bertro | just to be sure remove it |
| 09:02.25 | phale | from the laptop? |
| 09:02.27 | bertro | lsusb>t1 |
| 09:02.31 | bertro | insert it |
| 09:02.36 | bertro | lsusb>t2 |
| 09:02.38 | bertro | diff t1 t2 |
| 09:02.43 | phale | bertro |
| 09:02.47 | phale | i accidentally got the top off |
| 09:02.50 | phale | i think its broken now |
| 09:02.55 | bertro | :D |
| 09:03.05 | bertro | just place it back |
| 09:03.29 | phale | yes |
| 09:03.31 | phale | thats he wifi |
| 09:03.39 | phale | i removed it and it got off the lsusb list |
| 09:03.46 | bertro | lsb_release -a |
| 09:04.05 | phale | Debian GNU/Linux 8.1 (jessie) |
| 09:04.35 | bertro | add `deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free` to `/etc/apt/sources.list` |
| 09:04.41 | bertro | apt-get update |
| 09:04.42 | phale | i did |
| 09:04.55 | bertro | apt-get install firmware-ralink |
| 09:05.02 | phale | wait |
| 09:05.07 | phale | what do i do about my existing firmware |
| 09:05.13 | phale | for my integrated wifi chipset |
| 09:05.27 | bertro | it shouldn't be a problem |
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| 09:05.42 | bertro | it's possible that it's not recognized |
| 09:06.31 | phale | ok its being installed |
| 09:06.36 | phale | im on the laptop was we speak btw |
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| 09:06.54 | phale | its installled |
| 09:07.12 | bertro | is your laptop internet connected currently? |
| 09:07.23 | bertro | or are you on another pc |
| 09:07.56 | phale | its internet connected now |
| 09:07.58 | asterismo | hi people |
| 09:08.01 | asterismo | still need help |
| 09:08.02 | phale | with my awful wifi |
| 09:08.11 | asterismo | i need to load this 2 modules at startup |
| 09:08.26 | asterismo | modprobe -vr saa7134 |
| 09:08.35 | asterismo | modprobe -v saa7134 card=21 |
| 09:08.42 | asterismo | and then do |
| 09:09.01 | asterismo | this /etc/init.d/zoneminder restart |
| 09:09.13 | asterismo | how do i add all this in a script at startup? |
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| 09:11.00 | phale | bertro: strange |
| 09:11.09 | phale | i read the "Contents" of the firmware-ralink package |
| 09:11.19 | phale | it doesnt have support for my |
| 09:11.20 | phale | card |
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| 09:11.24 | phale | dongle* |
| 09:11.52 | bertro | you said it was `RT5370` |
| 09:13.01 | phale | yeah |
| 09:13.33 | bertro | the package `firmware-ralink` should do it |
| 09:14.04 | phale | okay |
| 09:14.07 | phale | so what do i do now |
| 09:15.43 | bertro | what does `ifconfig -a` give |
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| 09:16.21 | phale | bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 09:16.33 | bertro | as root |
| 09:16.40 | at0m|c | or /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 09:16.43 | at0m|c | as user |
| 09:16.47 | bertro | ^ |
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| 09:17.04 | at0m|c | it's not in user $PATH |
| 09:17.06 | phale | http://codepad.org/XR10tZNb |
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| 09:19.50 | phale | im pretty sure its wwan0 |
| 09:20.09 | phale | since -a shows all devices even if they are down |
| 09:20.17 | phale | while ifconfig normally doesnt show them |
| 09:21.41 | bertro | currently you're connected to `wlan0` or? |
| 09:21.51 | phale | yeah |
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| 09:22.37 | bertro | you could edit `/etc/network/interfaces` setting `iface wlan0 inet manual` after which running `service network-manager restart` |
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| 09:23.28 | bertro | network manager doesn't interfere with interfaces that are configured in `interfaces` |
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| 09:24.08 | bertro | alternatively `ifconfig <interface> up/down` |
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| 09:26.47 | phale | bertro: wait |
| 09:26.53 | phale | you mean wwlan0, not wlan0 |
| 09:27.04 | bertro | i mean the one you want to stop using |
| 09:27.09 | phale | oh |
| 09:27.20 | phale | what if it doesnt work |
| 09:28.10 | bertro | if something doesn't work, there might be a reason behind that... upon inspection such a reason could be identified and resolved |
| 09:28.32 | phale | i mean |
| 09:28.35 | phale | how do i come back here |
| 09:28.43 | bertro | where is `here` |
| 09:29.04 | phale | #debian |
| 09:30.22 | bertro | do you have another pc? |
| 09:30.33 | bertro | just reverse the actions made |
| 09:30.35 | phale | yes but I cant access it now |
| 09:30.41 | phale | oh okay |
| 09:30.46 | phale | so i remove the "iface wlan0 inet manual" |
| 09:30.49 | bertro | yes |
| 09:30.50 | phale | and restart it again |
| 09:30.52 | phale | okay |
| 09:31.19 | bertro | and `up` the interfaces you `down`-ed |
| 09:31.41 | phale | i didnt down them though |
| 09:31.49 | phale | i just edited the interfaces file |
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| 09:33.48 | phale | one more thing |
| 09:33.52 | phale | do i disable the wireless in my laptop |
| 09:33.56 | phale | like the little swithc |
| 09:33.58 | phale | switch* |
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| 09:36.26 | bertro | after you see that the dongle is working you could surely |
| 09:37.29 | phale | bertro: not working |
| 09:37.40 | phale | i also tried the alternative |
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| 09:44.21 | phale | bertro: so what do i do |
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| 09:48.48 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
| 09:48.49 | sep | hello. when running a shared storage (via san and fiberchannel) you need some kind of multiple access filesystem. i see packages for gfs2 and ocfs2 are any of you doing something similar ? what is the best tool for the job in debian ? |
| 09:49.19 | sep | the shared storage will run vm images |
| 09:49.51 | bieyeik2aX | hello BluesKaj |
| 09:50.34 | BluesKaj | Hi bieyeik2aX |
| 09:50.58 | mquin | Used both at different times. They've got pros and cons so you'll need to do your research before choosing one. If you don't actually need concurrent access to the storage you can use a regular filesystem but you'll need to do some sort of fencing to ensure only one system tries to access it at a time |
| 09:51.00 | bieyeik2aX | sorry sep, can't help, but good morning to you |
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| 09:51.14 | sep | :) |
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| 09:51.42 | phale | bertro: ? |
| 09:51.48 | sep | been a difficult thing to google. hard to find anything giving real advice. |
| 09:51.55 | Equa | phale: could you give me the output of ip a? |
| 09:52.18 | phale | yes |
| 09:52.24 | phale | http://codepad.org/ZuR4z5Tn |
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| 09:53.16 | Equa | phale: do ip link set wlan1 up |
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| 09:54.00 | Equa | phale: seems like you got an ip address with your first wireless card |
| 09:54.59 | phale | Equa: wait |
| 09:55.09 | phale | if it doesnt work do I down it again |
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| 09:55.24 | Equa | phale: what OS and DE? |
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| 09:55.41 | phale | Debian 8.1.0 Jessie XFCE |
| 09:56.13 | Equa | phale: i haven't been on xfce for awhile. does it use network manager or wicd? |
| 09:56.28 | phale | network manager i think |
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| 09:56.45 | Equa | phale: try to setup your internet from there. one of the wifi is up |
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| 09:58.06 | phale | ill try "ip link set wlan1 up" |
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| 09:58.29 | phale | how do i know if it worked |
| 09:58.47 | Equa | do ip a. look at the state if it's UP or DOWN |
| 09:58.53 | phale | DOWN |
| 09:59.18 | Equa | phale: you have two wireless card. one is up. go configure your wifi info from network manager |
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| 09:59.38 | Equa | phale: for the device choose wlan0 |
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| 10:00.36 | halvor | hello |
| 10:01.11 | bieyeik2aX | hi halvor |
| 10:01.29 | phale | how do I launch it, Equa |
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| 10:02.02 | Equa | phale: should be in the panel with the network icon |
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| 10:02.07 | phale | im on xfce |
| 10:02.15 | phale | sorrhy |
| 10:02.16 | phale | im on dwm |
| 10:02.20 | phale | with xfce as the DE |
| 10:02.53 | Equa | phale: you have an ip so you are connected to the router. visit a website |
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| 10:08.07 | phale | Equa: i clicked it what now |
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| 10:08.44 | GPenguin | hello. i try to use the pre-installed vino but i cant find the vino-preferences app. any hints? |
| 10:08.48 | Equa | phale: have you tested your internet connection? open a browser and visit yahoo or google |
| 10:09.04 | phale | what? lol |
| 10:09.07 | phale | i havent configured it |
| 10:09.10 | phale | not sure how |
| 10:09.45 | Equa | phale: one of your wifi card is setup. it's got an ip means you are connected to the router. open a browser and visits a few websites. |
| 10:09.55 | phale | no, thats my wifi card |
| 10:10.03 | phale | my integrated wifi card |
| 10:10.06 | phale | i'm using a wifi dongle |
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| 10:10.18 | Equa | phale: so it's working and you want to setup a 2nd wifi? |
| 10:10.24 | phale | yes |
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| 10:10.29 | phale | the reason is because it partially works |
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| 10:10.31 | halvor | nope, it’s ethernet card |
| 10:10.34 | phale | i have a bad connection with this wifi |
| 10:10.37 | halvor | and it is slow as hell |
| 10:10.41 | Equa | oic |
| 10:10.47 | halvor | but i should check the able |
| 10:10.50 | halvor | *cable |
| 10:10.52 | phale | like, I have intermittent connections, I tried every solution |
| 10:10.55 | phale | nothing worked |
| 10:11.01 | phale | so I got a dongle since im scared to open my laptop |
| 10:11.04 | Equa | phale: good signal? |
| 10:11.08 | phale | hm? |
| 10:11.16 | phale | yeah the signal is okay |
| 10:11.20 | Equa | phale: are you getting good signal with the integrated one |
| 10:11.22 | phale | 4 bars at all the times |
| 10:11.23 | phale | yes |
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| 10:12.02 | Equa | phale: everyone else using wifi is fine ? |
| 10:12.30 | phale | yes |
| 10:13.16 | Equa | phale: might just be your hardware. let's setup the other one. what error do you get when you try to bring up wlan1? |
| 10:13.37 | phale | no error |
| 10:14.08 | Equa | phale: open a terminal. su. change to root account |
| 10:14.18 | phale | why cant i just use sudo |
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| 10:14.35 | Equa | phale: you can. i'm not sure how you are doing it. |
| 10:14.39 | phale | okay then |
| 10:15.07 | Equa | phale: sudo ip link set wlan1 up. then do ip a to check it's status. if it's not up. do dmesg and give me the output |
| 10:15.39 | phale | interesting |
| 10:15.42 | phale | it failed to load osme f |
| 10:15.43 | phale | firmware |
| 10:15.46 | phale | ill give the dmesg output |
| 10:16.05 | phale | ill give it where it shows the USB being connected |
| 10:16.07 | phale | if thats ok |
| 10:16.33 | Equa | phale: that's fine unless some other issues are preventing it and i can't see the log |
| 10:16.45 | phale | wow its a load of spam |
| 10:16.51 | phale | its best you check it out |
| 10:17.04 | phale | http://codepad.org/xCipDsY7 |
| 10:17.04 | Equa | use paste.debian.net |
| 10:17.07 | phale | ok |
| 10:17.09 | Equa | that's fine too |
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| 10:17.25 | phale | you can see some firmware not being loaded |
| 10:17.28 | phale | the package may be broken |
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| 10:18.49 | Equa | phale: have you installed the package and where + how did you install it? |
| 10:19.11 | phale | apt-get install firmware-ralink |
| 10:19.16 | phale | from non-free contrib repos |
| 10:19.21 | phale | on jessie |
| 10:19.37 | Equa | phale: it's a usb device correct? do lsusb for me |
| 10:19.47 | phale | Bus 001 Device 010: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter |
| 10:19.49 | phale | this is the one |
| 10:19.53 | Equa | *an |
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| 10:21.39 | ghoulsblade | hi! any preinstalled tool on wheezy that allows making partitions bigger than 2T ? cfdisk and fdisk seem to fail, i can install parted i suppose, just suprised that the preinstalled ones are not enough |
| 10:22.58 | rozie | try parted |
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| 10:23.23 | rozie | but I'd bet that cfdisk can handle much bigger partitions than 2TB |
| 10:24.14 | phale | Equa: so what now |
| 10:24.35 | Equa | phale: give me a second to check your firmware and etc... |
| 10:24.40 | phale | ok |
| 10:24.58 | ghoulsblade | that'll work, had to install parted first tho. tried with cfdisk, looked fine at first but when reading again my 3.980 gb partition had turned to 1.781gb |
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| 10:26.57 | Equa | phale: when you installed the firmware, were there any error? |
| 10:27.06 | phale | no |
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| 10:28.57 | Equa | phale: let's redo the installation. sudo apt-get purge firmware-ralink |
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| 10:30.06 | phale | wait Equa |
| 10:30.08 | phale | I need to go now |
| 10:30.16 | phale | I'll switch to my PC though |
| 10:30.25 | phale | we can do this later if you're here again ? |
| 10:30.58 | Equa | phale: if i'm around sure. if not someone else can help you in the channel. |
| 10:31.03 | phale | ok |
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| 10:35.31 | ychaouche | Hello #debian |
| 10:35.47 | ychaouche | How do I set the timezone on my server ? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/4735fd2132f89aaadb52/raw/653e5c311335b73d268a0777e6af2b1dabfb3ebb/gistfile1.txt |
| 10:35.59 | ychaouche | there still is 1 hour difference when I do date |
| 10:36.16 | ghoulsblade | try dpkg-reconfigure tzdata : https://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges |
| 10:37.08 | at0m|c | ychaouche: or tzconfig |
| 10:37.41 | ychaouche | at0m|c: it says it's deprecated |
| 10:37.46 | ychaouche | ghoulsblade: thanks, will try that |
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| 10:38.23 | ychaouche | ghoulsblade: works like a charm |
| 10:38.38 | ychaouche | so that means tzselect isn't appropriate |
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| 10:39.02 | ychaouche | oh, man page says it only is used to view timezones |
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| 10:40.16 | ychaouche | Is this an official debian site ? http://www.debian-administration.org/article/213/Changing_the_timezone_of_your_Debian_system |
| 10:40.23 | ychaouche | got the command from there |
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| 10:40.46 | ychaouche | it's a little misleading it says tzselect will edit the timezone |
| 10:41.04 | at0m|c | ychaouche: not official, but i visit often. |
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| 10:45.43 | ghoulsblade | what is the recommended way to make 3.9TB partitions on wheezy? parted with GPT partition table seems to work, but fdisk and cfdisk cant list it, and i cant set fs type on partitions |
| 10:45.50 | ghoulsblade | so sth better would be appreciated |
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| 10:47.57 | detergnet | ghoulsblade: you need the GPT fdisk, the package is gdisk and the program's name is sgdisk |
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| 10:50.00 | ghoulsblade | detergnet, thanks, but sgdisk /dev/sdd just returns without any output, anything with a curses/console gui ? |
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| 10:53.19 | detergnet | ghoulsblade: gdisk /dev/sdd? gdisk should be the interactive version |
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| 10:55.08 | ghoulsblade | thanks, that looks like fdisk =) |
| 10:55.17 | ghoulsblade | and it shows the parted table |
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| 10:56.30 | detergnet | ghoulsblade: damn, I keep messing them up... cgdisk should be like cfdisk :) |
| 10:56.56 | detergnet | so many tools for the same purpose, a blessing and a curse :) |
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| 10:57.56 | WildMinion | What file system can you recommend me for only storage data on some TB's disks? ext4? xfs? some other? |
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| 10:58.26 | vibhavp | I just upgraded to testing, and journalctl says: "Failed to get journal fields: Cannot assign requested address". Any idea whats wrong? |
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| 11:02.38 | BluesKaj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:05.06 | BluesKaj | WildMinion, I use ext4 for media /data on my data drive, works well and is stable, dunno much about xfs |
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| 11:07.32 | WildMinion | BluesKaj: okay, sounds good. Thanks! |
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| 11:08.20 | BluesKaj | WildMinion, at least you'll know it's safe |
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| 11:16.06 | flider | Hello! I did "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" on my Debian 8 box today and rebooted. Now it is not reachable anymore. Not via http and not via ssh. What happened, what can I do? |
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| 11:17.17 | Equa | flider: do you have any other way to connect to it ? Need logs to figure out the problem. |
| 11:17.41 | vlt | flider: serial console maybe? A ... screen? |
| 11:18.39 | Equa | flider: ask your provider to reboot the system. sometime they are halted and haven't rebooted |
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| 11:18.52 | flider | i still have the frozen terminal open. it says it updated "unattended-updates". |
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| 11:19.25 | Equa | flider: if your system rebooted. it would have closed the connection |
| 11:19.27 | flider | and and complained about "udate-rc.d: start and stop scripts no longer supported". |
| 11:20.08 | flider | Equa: so it hangs in the "shutting down" phase? |
| 11:20.09 | Equa | flider: debian jessie uses systemd now so it's just warning ya about sysVinit stuff. |
| 11:20.17 | Equa | flider: ya. |
| 11:20.28 | flider | i cant even ping it anymore. |
| 11:20.50 | Equa | flider: it's about to shutdown but one or more processes is blocking it |
| 11:21.30 | flider | so it already shut downa apache, sshd and the ping server but now it is waiting for some process? |
| 11:21.43 | Equa | flider: it's possible. |
| 11:22.09 | flider | ok, gonna hard reset it... |
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| 11:25.00 | flider | if it comes back, how do i check what went wrong? |
| 11:25.26 | flider | it's back |
| 11:25.27 | Equa | flider: syslog / kernlog / daemon log |
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| 11:27.03 | flider | Equa: tail /var/log/syslog ? |
| 11:27.31 | Equa | flider: you might want to see more than the last 10 lines. read thru it. if you need help give me the whole output of dmesg |
| 11:28.37 | flider | the last line is "/etc/mysql/debian-start[...]: Triggering myisam-recover for all MyISAM tables" |
| 11:29.04 | Equa | flider: your sql is just repairing / checking itself |
| 11:29.30 | flider | but why would that kill the machine so ping, ssh etc go down? |
| 11:30.23 | Equa | flider: certain process are being shutdown. when you reboot, it starts shutdown down service before it will reboot. one of the program preventing it makes the system hung up |
| 11:30.39 | flider | not the last in syslog? |
| 11:31.08 | flider | maybe that entry is from after the reboot? |
| 11:31.09 | Equa | flider: read the time log. when you reboot it makes more logs |
| 11:31.44 | flider | ok.. so i guess that was from after the reboot. lets see where it tried to shut down... |
| 11:31.47 | Equa | flider: do another reboot and your system will work fine... just a one time thing. i wouldn't worry too much about it |
| 11:31.58 | flider | probably at 12:53:11 then... |
| 11:32.13 | Equa | flider: if it occurs again then you'll want to look into it. I usually look into everything. |
| 11:33.15 | flider | Jul 1 12:53:11 ... kernel: xvdb: unknown partition table |
| 11:33.25 | flider | is that normal? |
| 11:33.36 | Equa | flider: no. look at all your partitions |
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| 11:33.56 | flider | fdisk -l ? |
| 11:34.02 | Equa | flider: i'll start with a backup as of today as well |
| 11:34.41 | flider | how do you mean? |
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| 11:35.36 | Equa | flider: backup your data just incase of hard driver data corruption. read this site for some hints on checking your disk http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/08/fsck-command-examples/ |
| 11:35.48 | Equa | *hard drive data |
| 11:35.48 | flider | i always have backups |
| 11:36.17 | Equa | flider: you might lose a few hrs depending on how long ago the backup was... hence i suggested to do one now |
| 11:36.22 | WildMinion | https://packages.debian.org/fr/jessie/hyperv-modules-3.16.0-4-amd64-di --- How can I load this inside the Installer? |
| 11:36.25 | flider | i wonder what xvdb is. i guess it's my swap partition. |
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| 11:37.31 | flider | yes, xvdb is my swap partition |
| 11:37.41 | flider | so i guess it's normal to not have a partition table. |
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| 11:38.44 | flider | the very last line of the shutting down phase was this: |
| 11:38.46 | flider | Jul 1 13:24:54 j16333 rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.4.2" x-pid="2146" x-info="http://www.rsysl |
| 11:39.03 | flider | log.com"] start |
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| 11:40.56 | flider | let's try another reboot |
| 11:41.09 | flider | hangs again... |
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| 11:41.39 | flider | ah no |
| 11:42.14 | flider | it rebooted |
| 11:42.30 | Equa | flider: just a one time thing. you should be fine |
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| 11:42.50 | flider | well, let's hope so... |
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| 11:44.54 | flider | thanks for your help |
| 11:45.01 | Equa | flider: np |
| 11:45.03 | flider | cu |
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| 12:05.20 | brontosaurusrex | gitweb is read-only right? |
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| 12:07.09 | WildMinion | brontosaurusrex: if you've access to the github project, no |
| 12:07.17 | WildMinion | for all others: yes |
| 12:07.37 | brontosaurusrex | github has what to do with gitweb? |
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| 12:07.54 | WildMinion | Oh, i've read github :/ |
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| 12:07.58 | brontosaurusrex | or with other words, not using github at all for this one |
| 12:07.59 | WildMinion | Sorry, brontosaurusrex :( |
| 12:08.53 | brontosaurusrex | WildMinion: no problem :) |
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| 12:29.19 | d1b | git/win42 |
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| 12:31.42 | Equa | is there a way to tell if the graphic card in the system is an optimus? |
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| 12:32.53 | hollusion_ | hello |
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| 12:33.08 | hollusion_ | ./csgo_linux: error while loading shared libraries: libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:33.28 | hollusion_ | can you tell me where to get this lib? i am running a 64bit lmde but i think i need the 32bit lib |
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| 12:34.50 | phale | Equa: are you still there? |
| 12:34.59 | Equa | phale: maybe |
| 12:35.14 | phale | remember when I accidentally tugged the dongle's top? |
| 12:35.18 | phale | it has a little crack on it now |
| 12:35.19 | Equa | hollusion_: it's only in wheezy i386 |
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| 12:35.45 | phale | will it be fine? |
| 12:35.48 | Equa | phale: we can try to redo the installation, if it fails go return or replace it |
| 12:36.05 | phale | okay |
| 12:36.06 | BluesKaj | Equa, lspci | grep VGA , if you have optimus it will show intel and nvidia cards |
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| 12:36.54 | Equa | BluesKaj: thanks. i saw that but was hoping for another way. asking the user if they have one or not isn't an option. wanted a more reliable way |
| 12:37.32 | Equa | phale: do you wish to start? |
| 12:37.44 | phale | Equa: sure, is 1 hour and a half okay with you? |
| 12:37.54 | phale | i mean, when to start |
| 12:38.07 | Equa | phale: in 1hr? if i'm around. others may help you too |
| 12:38.11 | phale | okay |
| 12:38.15 | phale | thanks |
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| 12:46.11 | hollusion_ | ./csgo_linux: error while loading shared libraries: libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
| 12:46.22 | hollusion_ | what does this mean? |
| 12:46.33 | hollusion_ | wrong arch? |
| 12:46.33 | Equa | hollusion_: what is your os? |
| 12:46.40 | hollusion_ | linux mint debian |
| 12:46.47 | hollusion_ | 64 bit |
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| 12:46.58 | hollusion_ | i think ./csgo_linux is 32bit |
| 12:47.13 | jelly | hollusion_: it means your app is likely 32bit and your OS is missing support for 32bit apps ("multiarch") |
| 12:47.14 | Equa | hollusion_: have you followed the method to add other arch? |
| 12:47.21 | jelly | !mint |
| 12:47.21 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 12:52.28 | BluesKaj | Equa, ask the user if this works , lspci| grep controller, I don't have an optimus system so i don't know, but usually lspci should list all hardware in the VGA group for example, even if it's not in use at the time |
| 12:53.11 | Equa | BluesKaj: usually they just come and ask for help on installing nvidia driver. I will just ask for lspci | grep VGA |
| 12:53.41 | BluesKaj | Equa, yes that's normally what i do as well |
| 12:54.38 | BluesKaj | usually linux users are knowledgeable enough to know if they have an optimus gpu setup |
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| 12:54.56 | Equa | @-@ not when all they want is to install nvidia for gaming |
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| 12:55.05 | abrotman | anyway ... |
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| 13:08.55 | zykotick9 | BluesKaj: i've heard (don't have the hardware myself) that "lspci -v" _might_ be required to show both video adapters with these dual-setups... |
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| 13:09.49 | BluesKaj | zykotick9, could be |
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| 13:25.34 | armin | so, i heard it was possible to let the compositor on a headless machine render things that thin clients then display. is there some buzzword i can google for? |
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| 13:27.02 | detergnet | armin: headless X server |
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| 13:33.20 | s7r | Setting up ca-certificates (20130119+deb7u1) ... |
| 13:33.21 | s7r | debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog |
| 13:33.21 | s7r | debconf: (No usable dialog-like program is installed, so the dialog based frontend cannot be used. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 76.) |
| 13:33.21 | s7r | debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline |
| 13:33.21 | s7r | Processing triggers for ca-certificates ... |
| 13:33.21 | s7r | mktemp: failed to create file via template `/tmp/ca-certificates.crt.tmp.XXXXXX': No such file or directory |
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| 13:33.37 | s7r | i keep getting errors for ca-certificates on wheezy |
| 13:33.50 | s7r | cannot purge it, cannot update it, anything |
| 13:34.02 | jelly | s7r: show the output of ls -ld /tmp |
| 13:34.22 | s7r | ls: cannot access /tmp: No such file or directory |
| 13:34.41 | jelly | s7r: do you see the problem? |
| 13:34.56 | s7r | how do I fix it? |
| 13:35.10 | jelly | s7r: mkdir /tmp && chmod 1777 /tmp |
| 13:35.26 | jelly | s7r: howEVER. If /tmp is missing, who knows what _else_ is missing, too |
| 13:35.50 | jelly | so please check your OS installation against your last backup |
| 13:36.21 | s7r | yeah it's a strange setup here |
| 13:36.25 | s7r | it's a crappy openvz virtual box :( |
| 13:36.40 | s7r | now it worked, i was able to install ca-certificates and clone something from github |
| 13:37.06 | jelly | ,v ca-certificates |
| 13:37.07 | judd | Package: ca-certificates on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 20090814+nmu3; squeeze: 20090814+nmu3squeeze1; wheezy: 20130119+deb7u1; jessie: 20141019; sid: 20150426; stretch: 20150426 |
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| 13:38.55 | jelly | s7r: you should really investigate the cause, a directory owned by root doesn't just disappear on its own |
| 13:39.24 | milwaukee | this may be a ridiculous question to ask, but I'm just curious; is there an estimated LTS until date for Debian 7? |
| 13:39.25 | s7r | jelly ack. thanks |
| 13:39.57 | jelly | milwaukee: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
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| 13:40.35 | milwaukee | ah, didn't even know it was decided. Thanks |
| 13:41.29 | jelly | milwaukee: that's just preliminary, assuming the LTS effort gets enough resources. If you're using in a commercial environment, consider funding. https://www.freexian.com/services/debian-lts.html |
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| 13:42.41 | dTal_ | Hi chaps. I can't seem to persuade aptitude to install recommended packages. I have "APT::Install-Recommends "0" ; APT::Install-Suggests "0" ;" in apt.conf, but I can't seem to override it with the command line list. |
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| 13:44.29 | dTal_ | For example, today's upgrade recommends firmware-linux-free, irqbalance, and libssl-doc. Adding -r or --with-recommends does not change the message from "The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:" |
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| 13:51.35 | jelly | dTal_: I _think_ once you decided not to install a particular recommended package, aptitude somehow remembers that decision |
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| 13:52.40 | jelly | dTal_: obvious workaround is to install explicitely, then markauto the package(s). |
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| 14:01.34 | detergnet | my dmesg is getting spammed with "link down" "link up" for a network interface added to a brigde, about 2-4 times a day, every day; nobody unplugs any cable :) is there anything wrong with my bridge configuration or more likely a problem with the other end of the wire (an el-cheapo ONT router)? http://paste.debian.net/273878/ |
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| 14:12.08 | phale | Equa: can we start now |
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| 14:20.33 | nebbia | hello everyone... can somebody explain me why when windows copies files to usb keys or external HDD it just copies and when unmounting it just unmounts it, whyle with Debian, it just copies the file when unmounting ??? both should use async... so why this happens ? |
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| 14:21.53 | Zharf | writing files doesn't always happen right away |
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| 14:22.12 | Zharf | if you're unmounting it's forcing the stuff to be written |
| 14:22.20 | phale | Equa: sorry if i'm disturbing you |
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| 14:29.24 | nebbia | everytime i should enter with root :( |
| 14:29.29 | nebbia | how do i change this settings? |
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| 14:31.23 | Miesco | Hi, where can I find out how to use a virtual python filesystem to put all my libraries as to not corrupt my debian filesystem? |
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| 14:36.22 | dvs | BlueEagle: Why not create your own .conf file? |
| 14:36.43 | dvs | BluesKaj: ^^^ |
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| 14:37.38 | BluesKaj | dvs, I tried , but I guess I'm missing something |
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| 14:38.52 | dvs | BluesKaj: It must have a ".conf" extension. That should be it. |
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| 14:51.35 | mtn | Miesco, use the one in the package manager |
| 14:51.58 | Miesco | mtn: There is a bunch, I have lualatex, pdflatex, xelatex... |
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| 14:52.21 | mtn | Miesco, read their descriptions ;) |
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| 14:56.53 | BeaverP2 | hi |
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| 14:57.04 | BeaverP2 | I need to shoot a linux server in the head using plain software |
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| 14:57.12 | BeaverP2 | i asked the question in ##linux as well |
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| 14:58.17 | BeaverP2 | well maybe i should ask the dev mailing list |
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| 14:59.34 | vlt | Could you describe what your goal is here? |
| 14:59.43 | vlt | BeaverP2: ^ |
| 14:59.46 | planetmaker | BeaverP2, no, you should ask a better question really. 'Shoot in the head' is anything but well-defined. |
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| 15:00.36 | planetmaker | And also as said in the(?) other channel: asking generally how to exploit a system is not really going to give you answers either |
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| 15:05.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | planetmaker, well... I think if he mounts a head to it and gets a software-gun... |
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| 15:05.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | a gun with plain software, that is... |
| 15:06.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | ^^ |
| 15:06.09 | planetmaker | :) |
| 15:06.17 | jelly | it's an active-passive cluster idiom. STONITH |
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| 15:07.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's true... but that directly conflicts with "plain software" |
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| 15:14.01 | Spelunky | Hello everybody! I got a strange Problem which I can not resolve. I need the bnx2 Driver for a Broadcom NIC. I loaded the modules and it works fine (on one DELL Server). Now I) installed Debian (latest STABLE) on another Dell Server with identical NICs and I get an issue during loading the module. If I do a "ifconfig eth0 up" I get a SIOCSIFFLAGS: Can not allocate memory (in german: Nicht genügend Hauptspeicher verfügbar), which i |
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| 15:14.07 | Spelunky | Did anybody ever had such issues? |
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| 15:15.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | How do I go about adding a second menu entry to GRUB2 that boots the same kernel with an extra parameter? |
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| 15:15.51 | ghoulsblade | Spelunky, wild guess, maybe there's another network interface and you need eth1 or similar ? |
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| 15:17.13 | planetmaker | Spelunky, also your 1st message got truncated after "verfügbar), which i" |
| 15:17.18 | ghoulsblade | Eduard_Munteanu, take a look at /etc/default/grub, e.g. http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html section 5.1 |
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| 15:18.13 | Spelunky | planetmaker: for both onboard BNCs I get the same Error |
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| 15:18.15 | ghoulsblade | Eduard_Munteanu, probably by adding a file to /etc/grub.d/ |
| 15:18.41 | Spelunky | I attached now a USB-based NIC as a workaround to not always stay in the DC |
| 15:18.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | ghoulsblade, that seems to suggest disabling autodetection and writing entries manually, I was hoping there was a nicer way |
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| 15:19.27 | ghoulsblade | if there is its in some /etc/default/grub parameter, like a variant of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= |
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| 15:23.35 | Spelunky | planetmaker: short: not enought memory avaiable (which can't be true related to 16GB, this error makes no sense) |
| 15:24.05 | Spelunky | german originaL SIOCSIFFLAGS: Nicht genügend Hauptspeicher verfügbar |
| 15:24.16 | Spelunky | and this comes if I try to "ifconfig eth0 up" |
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| 15:27.20 | Spelunky | I assume something with the PCI mappins might got fucked up completly....hm.. I will try to change BIOS settings (maybe disabling the onboard remote control (DRAC)) and try it again tomorrow.. if somebody has any other ideas please drop me a line int he query! |
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| 15:30.45 | Iridos | Spelunky, your initial sentence ends with ", which" |
| 15:31.08 | Iridos | ah, someone said |
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| 15:31.47 | Iridos | but don't see you completing it |
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| 15:34.29 | Spelunky | Iridos: loading bnx2 module fails with "not enought memory"-Error (which can't be true since this box has 16GB) |
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| 15:35.08 | Spelunky | I fac this Bug on 2 different Servers, one with 16GB, one with 2GB... I assume that the PCI mapping is fucked up and I will try to play with BIOS settings since all works flawlessly on a 3rd Server (with 4GB) |
| 15:35.15 | Spelunky | fac -> face |
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| 15:35.46 | Iridos | did you install the firmware for bnx2? |
| 15:35.51 | Spelunky | yes |
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| 15:36.17 | Spelunky | Iridos: ifconfig eth0 shows a mac and config.. |
| 15:36.23 | Iridos | did you try different kernel versions (or bnx2-versions) |
| 15:36.24 | Spelunky | ifconfig eth0 up <- not enought memory |
| 15:36.47 | Spelunky | Iridos: there different BNX versions?! I installed apt-get install firmware-linux-non-free |
| 15:37.40 | jelly | Spelunky: how old are your servers? |
| 15:37.42 | Iridos | I mean the kernel module |
| 15:37.52 | Spelunky | Latest Debian stable + modules |
| 15:37.58 | Iridos | I mean other ones |
| 15:38.04 | Spelunky | which other ones? |
| 15:38.09 | Iridos | any other ones |
| 15:38.16 | Spelunky | there aint no other ones |
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| 15:38.36 | jelly | firmware-bnx2 and firmware-bnx2x |
| 15:38.38 | Spelunky | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:38.46 | Iridos | I would say that more than one kernel version exists on this planet :) |
| 15:39.01 | Spelunky | jelly: I installed the firmware via "apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree", I read they shoulöd be included there |
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| 15:39.33 | jelly | Spe....eh |
| 15:40.00 | Iridos | jelly, ^^ |
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| 15:40.07 | Spelunky | thanks for the hint! |
| 15:40.11 | jelly | Spelunky: you read wrong. |
| 15:40.17 | Spelunky | apt-get install firmware-bnx2 is required as well |
| 15:40.23 | Spelunky | jelly: I noticed it |
| 15:40.30 | Spelunky | the NIC works, hurray :D |
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| 15:40.35 | phale | Equa: hello |
| 15:40.38 | jelly | !win Spelunky |
| 15:40.38 | dpkg | Congratulations, Spelunky! You have won the US presidency! |
| 15:40.45 | phale | can i win too |
| 15:40.54 | Spelunky | jelly: I realy thought firmware-linux-nonfree is all I need |
| 15:41.05 | jelly | phale: nope, all out |
| 15:41.30 | Spelunky | goes now back to the DC to disassemble the workaround and tries it out. :) |
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| 15:42.55 | Iridos | should write a bug-report... it's fine that it doesn't work without the firmware... but the error shouldn't be something else |
| 15:43.19 | Spelunky | the error is realy misleading |
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| 15:45.22 | Spelunky | Thank you Iridos and jelly \o/ :) |
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| 15:45.46 | phale | Hello, a fellow user was helping me out earlier with my WiFi dongles firmware. |
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| 15:46.16 | phale | WiFi: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter |
| 15:46.40 | phale | After using dmesg I have found the problem (sort of) |
| 15:47.12 | phale | Here is some of the dmesg output: http://codepad.org/xCipDsY7 (from the top it spams something about not loading a .bin file) |
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| 15:52.20 | jodiendo | hello all debian users |
| 15:54.56 | phale | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:00.51 | jodiendo | Good news, the file that debian offers as a non-free package for the Lan and WIFI devices on a Lenovo G486. Does not works on the WiFi side. I decided and succesfully was able to remove the WIFI card, and did discover that the bios of my laptop only accepts WIFI cards manufactured FOR THEM! The bios settings for the WIFI is full of DRM firmware . I opt to buy later a USB WIFI device that is not DRM and completly free through The Penguin Web site |
| 16:01.20 | phale | i have a thinkpad as well |
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| 16:01.30 | haet244cut | me too |
| 16:01.31 | phale | i was shipped with a very bad wifi card |
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| 16:02.06 | phale | so can anyone help m eiwth my dongle |
| 16:02.08 | phale | dongle |
| 16:02.52 | phale | no ones here :^( |
| 16:03.00 | jodiendo | My debian 7.8 works fine. Is not debian fault, it is Lenovo company. |
| 16:03.08 | jelly | judd: file lib/firmware/rt2870.bin |
| 16:03.11 | judd | Search for lib/firmware/rt2870.bin in jessie/amd64: firmware-ralink: lib/firmware/rt2870.bin |
| 16:03.17 | phale | yeah I have it |
| 16:03.23 | phale | wait, amd64? |
| 16:03.27 | phale | im using i386 |
| 16:03.42 | phale | i have firmware-ralink package installed |
| 16:03.44 | jelly | phale: firmware's the same for all architectures, you can ignore that difference. |
| 16:03.47 | phale | okay |
| 16:03.49 | jodiendo | Same her 386 |
| 16:03.53 | jelly | phale: is /lib/firmware/rt2870.bin in place? |
| 16:04.03 | phale | yes |
| 16:04.05 | phale | its there |
| 16:04.14 | jelly | phale: did you reboot after installing? |
| 16:04.17 | phale | yes |
| 16:04.43 | phale | wait jelly |
| 16:04.44 | phale | that was old dmesg |
| 16:04.56 | jodiendo | I have not tested the Camera, neither the other ports that are designed to coonected to a TV. |
| 16:04.59 | phale | the new dmesg hasn't those errors |
| 16:05.09 | phale | so it loads it, ok |
| 16:05.15 | phale | but how do I use the wifi now? |
| 16:06.05 | jodiendo | I will oder the USB WIFI from the penguin web site |
| 16:06.06 | jelly | phale: dunno, is there a NetworkManager icon in the tray present? |
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| 16:06.17 | phale | not using xfce, dwm |
| 16:06.25 | phale | but thats my main DE (xfce) |
| 16:06.50 | jelly | phale: maybe use nmcli, then |
| 16:06.57 | jodiendo | once I order will inform everyone If the stuff works |
| 16:07.07 | jodiendo | or not |
| 16:07.10 | phale | jelly: ok |
| 16:07.12 | phale | so what do i do now |
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| 16:07.56 | jelly | phale: you'll have to figure that out or wait for someone who uses nmcli, I don't know a lot about it |
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| 16:08.12 | phale | jelly: I have the GUI of network manager though |
| 16:08.26 | jelly | presumably there's a way to scan available networks, and a way to connect to one |
| 16:08.48 | phale | yes |
| 16:08.54 | jodiendo | Phale If you could live without the WIFI and wait 1 week, I will post the results |
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| 16:09.52 | jodiendo | lets hope it works for me, I want to step on lenovo so bad |
| 16:10.08 | phale | jelly: the problem is im not using the dongle |
| 16:10.10 | jodiendo | for their arrogance sin |
| 16:10.11 | phale | im using the wifi card atm |
| 16:10.14 | phale | how do i switch |
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| 16:11.39 | jodiendo | I wish I could reload the firmware of my laptop, the problem I dont know how too |
| 16:11.53 | jodiendo | with a libre firmware |
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| 16:15.53 | phale | how do I switch network interfaces |
| 16:15.57 | phale | wlan0 to wlan1 |
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| 16:16.48 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's unclear what you mean by that. |
| 16:16.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | you want to rename wlan0 to wlan1? |
| 16:17.09 | phale | no |
| 16:17.14 | NoImNotNineVolt | you want your default route to go out over wlan1? |
| 16:17.34 | phale | i have a wifi dongle |
| 16:17.39 | phale | its name in ifconfig is wlan1 |
| 16:17.47 | phale | i just want to use the wifi dongle not the default wifi card in my laptop |
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| 16:18.39 | at0m|c | phale: always or just now? |
| 16:18.53 | phale | always |
| 16:20.01 | at0m|c | phale: find the module/driver for wlan0 and blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/onboard-wifi.conf as "blacklist $modulename" |
| 16:20.12 | phale | okay |
| 16:20.17 | phale | what about "just now"? |
| 16:20.24 | phale | i want to try it first before adding it forever |
| 16:20.41 | at0m|c | rmmod $modulename |
| 16:20.56 | at0m|c | wlan0 will disappear but wlan1 will remain wlan1 |
| 16:21.00 | at0m|c | afaik |
| 16:21.17 | phale | thats for just now? |
| 16:21.21 | at0m|c | on reboot with "blacklist $modulename", wlan1 will become the 0 |
| 16:21.39 | phale | what if this doesnt work |
| 16:22.14 | at0m|c | at worst, you rmmpd the driver of wlan1 and you modprobe it again |
| 16:22.20 | at0m|c | *rmmod |
| 16:22.36 | phale | im not sure |
| 16:22.40 | phale | is there an easier way |
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| 16:23.39 | jelly | it doesn't really matter which one's called wlan0 and which one is wlan1, just that the inside one is disabled? |
| 16:23.51 | at0m|c | you can also renumber them using "options $usbmodulename adapter_nr=0" or so, also in /etc/modprobe.d/wifi-dongle.conf |
| 16:24.00 | jelly | phale: can't you disable it somewhere in networkmanager? |
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| 16:24.33 | phale | yes |
| 16:24.34 | phale | it doesnt have to be disabled permanently so i cant reverse that change |
| 16:24.37 | phale | jelly: no |
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| 16:24.46 | phale | should I try wicd? |
| 16:25.21 | jelly | nah, if they use two different drivers, blacklisting is probably the easiest solution |
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| 16:25.31 | phale | jelly: I got an easier solution though from Equa |
| 16:25.47 | phale | iface wlan0 inet manual in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:26.06 | jelly | but it will be enabled and poking the ether |
| 16:26.15 | at0m|c | phale: the device will continue to probe and seek |
| 16:26.18 | at0m|c | ^^ |
| 16:26.24 | jelly | (and wasting battery) |
| 16:26.35 | phale | then restarting the network manager |
| 16:26.48 | jelly | phale: does the machine have a physical kill switch? |
| 16:27.00 | jelly | or some Fn-F5 thing? |
| 16:27.07 | phale | what? |
| 16:27.11 | at0m|c | oh jelly so @ppy |
| 16:27.20 | jelly | oh |
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| 16:27.53 | knivsta | TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5 for security |
| 16:27.55 | phale | you mean, the wifi card kill switch? |
| 16:28.02 | jelly | phale: yes |
| 16:28.12 | phale | oh yeah its this little button that you can shift left or right |
| 16:28.15 | at0m|c | some wifi have physical switch, like for airplane mode |
| 16:28.24 | Anaximandre | i, I'm looking for the main security mailing list for Jessie (stable), but can't find it on the website (there are too many). Can someone link me to it? |
| 16:28.26 | jelly | phale: if you're lucky, that will only disable the onboard thing |
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| 16:28.35 | phale | heres the other problem |
| 16:28.41 | phale | even if I disable wlan0 and use wlan1 |
| 16:28.48 | phale | it doesnt connect |
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| 16:29.31 | at0m|c | phale: blacklist the wlan0 driver. reboot. wlan1 will now be wlan0. try from there. if it doesn't work, undo the blacklist |
| 16:29.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | why not just set the ip of wlan1 as the default gateway? |
| 16:30.07 | phale | at0m|c: I tried doing it with the /etc/network/interfaces thing |
| 16:30.17 | phale | it should be disabled then but the wifi in my dongle doesnt work |
| 16:30.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | imho this should be solved via routing configuration. |
| 16:30.30 | at0m|c | phale: every device in interfaces is ignored by NM |
| 16:30.42 | phale | oh |
| 16:30.54 | phale | is rmmod permanent? |
| 16:30.58 | at0m|c | no |
| 16:31.01 | at0m|c | modprobe to undo |
| 16:31.07 | phale | do I need the module file or |
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| 16:31.15 | at0m|c | module name |
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| 16:31.36 | phale | ill just try blacklisting |
| 16:32.03 | NoImNotNineVolt | why not just ifdown the interface? |
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| 16:32.14 | NoImNotNineVolt | all of these solutions seem overly draconian. |
| 16:32.29 | jelly | there's nothing to ifdown, NoImNotNineVolt |
| 16:32.48 | phale | okay |
| 16:32.52 | phale | if I remove the blacklist conf |
| 16:32.56 | phale | wlan0 will exist again, right |
| 16:33.31 | at0m|c | phale: like rmmod ath9k. or permanent, echo "blacklist ath9k" >> /etc/modprobe.d/pickfilename.conf |
| 16:33.38 | at0m|c | phale: yes |
| 16:33.43 | phale | ok |
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| 16:33.51 | phale | so now I reset my laptop |
| 16:33.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | can't ifdown wlan0? |
| 16:34.11 | at0m|c | NoImNotNineVolt: wlan0 is not up |
| 16:34.16 | at0m|c | and he never wants it to be |
| 16:34.20 | at0m|c | he wants it gone |
| 16:34.30 | at0m|c | and is now fiddling with dongle wlan1 |
| 16:34.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | i understood the problem differently. i understood it as he wants his wifi going over wlan1 instead of wlan0. |
| 16:34.41 | phale | also, when I tried downing wlan0 before |
| 16:34.41 | phale | the USB didnt work |
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| 16:34.59 | phale | atom0|c: wlan0 is up |
| 16:35.02 | phale | its my wifi card |
| 16:35.12 | at0m|c | phale: and wlan1 is the onboard? |
| 16:35.15 | at0m|c | now im confused |
| 16:35.19 | phale | wlan1 is the dongle |
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| 16:35.22 | phale | wlan0 is the wifi card |
| 16:35.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | rmmod accomplishes that (and also plenty of other things which he didn't specifically say he wanted to accomplish), whereas ifdown wlan0 would also accomplish that with fewer side effects. |
| 16:35.36 | at0m|c | but you want the wlan1 cos it's higher specs or so? |
| 16:35.46 | phale | because my wifi card has a bad connection |
| 16:35.50 | phale | i keep losing connection randomly |
| 16:35.53 | at0m|c | oh i see now |
| 16:36.23 | NoImNotNineVolt | ifdown wlan0 |
| 16:36.29 | phale | ok |
| 16:36.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | if that doesn't work, you can just ifup wlan0 again. |
| 16:36.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | or, imho, the better-still solution would be just just change your default gateway. |
| 16:37.06 | phale | ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured |
| 16:37.07 | NoImNotNineVolt | that would accomplish your goal with minimal side-effects. |
| 16:37.27 | NoImNotNineVolt | oh this is one of those networkmanager things isn't it :P |
| 16:37.32 | phale | ya |
| 16:37.46 | socomm | People are still using wi-fi in 2015?! |
| 16:37.52 | phale | i have to |
| 16:38.13 | at0m|c | an echo "iface wlan0 inet manual" >> /etc/network/interfaces would save wlan0 from the hands of nm |
| 16:38.20 | socomm | Man, I can only imagine when Apple comes out with a laptop with no USB ports and no ethernet card. |
| 16:38.23 | at0m|c | but the device will still drain your battery |
| 16:38.30 | phale | i know |
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| 16:38.37 | at0m|c | socomm: they called netbooks |
| 16:38.38 | phale | at0m|c: heres the problem |
| 16:38.39 | socomm | That'd be one way to push everyone onto the "cloud". |
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| 16:38.41 | phale | when I did what you just said before |
| 16:38.46 | phale | my dongle didnt connect to my router |
| 16:38.54 | phale | it didnt get an IP address and networks couldnt be reached |
| 16:39.02 | socomm | I think Apple was the first to do computer with no floppy. |
| 16:39.37 | socomm | Do you need network-manager? |
| 16:40.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | network-manager is the bane of my existence. |
| 16:40.11 | at0m|c | +1 |
| 16:40.29 | phale | okay so what do i do about the dongle not connecting |
| 16:40.34 | at0m|c | maybe cos i never understood it. life can be so simple without. |
| 16:40.49 | at0m|c | phale: check network manager applet? |
| 16:40.50 | at0m|c | idk |
| 16:40.57 | phale | nm-applet? |
| 16:41.06 | at0m|c | i don't use nm |
| 16:41.24 | phale | oh ok |
| 16:41.24 | socomm | phale: Did you set your wlan for DHCP or set static IP? |
| 16:41.30 | phale | which wlan |
| 16:41.40 | socomm | phale: The one which is failing? |
| 16:41.45 | phale | i dont know |
| 16:41.50 | phale | i just plugged it in |
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| 16:42.55 | socomm | Hmmmm okay. |
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| 16:46.32 | phale | oh well |
| 16:46.40 | phale | is it worth mentioning theres a small crack |
| 16:46.47 | phale | i accidentally pulled it too hard when i was trying to get it out |
| 16:47.10 | at0m|c | phale: that's probably ok. can you scan networks on the dongle? |
| 16:47.22 | phale | how do i know that |
| 16:47.27 | at0m|c | nm-applet? |
| 16:47.40 | at0m|c | if you find networks, it works |
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| 16:47.43 | phale | nm-applet doesnt give me a gui |
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| 16:47.58 | phale | nm-connection-editor does |
| 16:48.05 | phale | let me try |
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| 16:49.39 | phale | at0m|c: im not sure how to scan networks in DWM |
| 16:50.32 | phale | iwlist maybe? |
| 16:50.34 | at0m|c | phale: how did you connect the onboard? |
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| 16:50.39 | phale | the wifi card? |
| 16:50.43 | at0m|c | yes |
| 16:50.47 | phale | i was on xfce at that time |
| 16:51.05 | at0m|c | and how did you do it there |
| 16:51.18 | phale | I just right clicked the little wi-fi icon on the menu on top |
| 16:51.21 | phale | there were networks on there |
| 16:51.36 | phale | It didnt open a window |
| 16:51.42 | phale | just a little menu that you get when you right click something |
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| 16:54.47 | cemg | hello guys , i run these commands " /usr/sbin/useradd --home-dir /app --shell /bin/bash --comment 'ulakbus operations' ulakbus " , "chown ulakbus:ulakbus /app -Rf" , " su ulakbus" , at the first time , its okey it doesnt ask me password , for second time when i do "su ulakbus" , it asks me password , what should i do ? |
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| 16:55.26 | cemg | sudo su - ulakbus , is it okey with this ?, because it doesnt ask password like this. |
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| 16:56.30 | jelly | cemg: sudo -u ulakbus -i, if you want an interactive shell |
| 16:56.48 | jelly | there's no need to call su with sudo |
| 16:56.57 | cemg | whats the difference ? |
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| 16:57.22 | phale | sudo su asks for your password, not the root password |
| 16:57.26 | phale | su asks for the root password |
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| 16:57.47 | jelly | cemg: avoiding one extra process |
| 16:58.06 | cemg | okey , i got it |
| 16:58.11 | cemg | ty |
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| 17:00.02 | phale | jelly: can I say something about my dongle |
| 17:00.09 | phale | do you know the iwlist command |
| 17:00.31 | jelly | I know it exists... not much more |
| 17:00.40 | jelly | doesn't deal with wifi often |
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| 17:00.52 | phale | well I did |
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| 17:00.59 | phale | sudo iwlist wlan1 scan |
| 17:01.03 | phale | and it scanned my network |
| 17:01.09 | phale | does that mean the dongle works |
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| 17:02.25 | sine` | I have downloaded a tarball |
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| 17:03.27 | NoImNotNineVolt | it looks like it works to some extent at least. |
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| 17:04.05 | phale | NoImNotNineVolt: not sure about that |
| 17:04.06 | phale | wlan0 lists more networks than wlan1, wlan1 only scans the network im connected to on wlan0 |
| 17:04.08 | meaneye | Hey folks, anyone knows how I can enable mouse-follows-focus option. |
| 17:04.52 | NoImNotNineVolt | in that case, the extent isn't quite so great :P |
| 17:04.57 | phale | meaneye: what DE? |
| 17:05.02 | meaneye | Gnome Shell. |
| 17:05.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | this is why i run ubuntu on all my non-server boxes :P |
| 17:05.40 | phale | you go to system -> preferences -> windows |
| 17:05.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | i find wifi to be incredibly annoying to deal with. |
| 17:05.54 | phale | check "select windows when the mouse moves over them" |
| 17:06.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | mousefocus--; |
| 17:06.33 | meaneye | phale, You misunderstood me. :D I don't need focus follows mouse, the other way around, mouse follows focus. |
| 17:06.45 | phale | oh right uh |
| 17:06.46 | meaneye | I have two displays and paddling my mouse across them is pain. |
| 17:06.57 | phale | not sure actually |
| 17:07.05 | phale | never used GNOME |
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| 17:08.05 | phale | so what do I do about my dongle guys .. |
| 17:08.52 | deb | �DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0 |
| 17:08.52 | at0m|c | phale: i'd blacklist wlan0. and with a bit of luck whatever manager you got will see the dongle as wlan0 and connect |
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| 17:09.15 | at0m|c | deb: bored? |
| 17:09.56 | cemg | i run a shell script when i root for another user with " su - ulakbus " commands " at the end , the user didnt change but commands executed for ulakbus user right ? |
| 17:09.57 | at0m|c | phale: and if it doesn't, mute #blacklist |
| 17:10.12 | deb | i was sending // but insted i send single /, sorry guys |
| 17:10.31 | niko | deb: don't do that thanks. |
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| 17:10.55 | meaneye | I guess I'll have to make my own. |
| 17:10.56 | phale | at0m|c: ill try to config it on xfce |
| 17:11.12 | phale | xfce4-session starts xfce right? |
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| 17:17.05 | qu | Anyone know why I can't mount an nfs directory? |
| 17:17.13 | qu | "No permission" |
| 17:17.35 | qu | I know UID & GID have to be the same so I have all_squash set. |
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| 17:22.54 | phale | i was able to connect using the wifi dongle |
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| 17:23.09 | phale | it was listed on the options along with some sniffed networks |
| 17:23.12 | at0m|c | congrats, phale |
| 17:23.17 | phale | heres the problem |
| 17:23.20 | phale | its REALLY slow |
| 17:23.31 | at0m|c | and it's wlan0 and onboard is disabled/blacklisted? |
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| 17:23.45 | phale | well |
| 17:23.48 | phale | wlan0 is still in ifconfig |
| 17:23.52 | phale | but its not connected |
| 17:23.55 | phale | wlan1 is though |
| 17:24.47 | phale | is that ok? |
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| 17:25.17 | at0m|c | phale: i'd move the wlan1 to 0 by blacklisting wlan0 driver and reboot. for battery sake. not sure on the 'really slow' thing. |
| 17:25.27 | phale | yeah |
| 17:25.32 | phale | also the kill switch also kills the wifi dongle |
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| 17:26.17 | Miesco | How come shift+insert pastes in vim, but not in firefox? |
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| 17:28.37 | grabbizle | So I installed the Debian KDE system on my 8GB flash drive and I theres no x window system installed. I wasn't planning to use this flashdrive but my 1TB primary drive wasn't configured for accepting partitions on its free space and so I went with the flash drive I had connected. I retrieved KDE desktop manager from the "additional package download" step. Can it be that there is no space left to install an X window system or even the KDE desktop |
| 17:28.38 | grabbizle | manager? Thanks. |
| 17:29.25 | at0m|c | Miesco: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html |
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| 17:30.43 | hexnewbie | Miesco: Dunno about Firefox, but it does the clipboard paste in Iceweasel. Its vim-specific that it doesn't paste the clipboard, but the primary, I think |
| 17:31.08 | hexnewbie | s/clipboard paste/paste clipboard/; |
| 17:31.44 | qu | No one knows nfs well. |
| 17:32.10 | at0m|c | grabbizle: df knows about 'disk free' |
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| 17:33.14 | Miesco | at0m|c: I don't have time to read all that. Whats the summary? |
| 17:33.40 | at0m|c | Miesco: different copy buffers |
| 17:33.49 | Iridos | magic! |
| 17:33.56 | Iridos | yeah, well, or that |
| 17:34.13 | valdyn | Miesco: vim is probably irrelevant here, its your terminal that does cut & paste handling |
| 17:34.39 | Iridos | Miesco, look at autocutsel |
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| 17:35.39 | Iridos | and if doing that is too much text... then we better not produce more text by giving any more answers |
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| 17:36.54 | PoIRoot | I have an MSI GT60 20D and nothing on SSD or secondary drive; BIOS is in Legacy mode; Installed both Kali Linux and Debian 8.1 and it would freeze the screen so i couldnt do anything. Someone mentioned from reading to try Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit because there was a CPU error in kernel in 3.16 that was fixed in latest version of Ubuntu. Downloaded Ubuntu tried installing it off USB Flash drive same thing happens it freezes. Has worked fine |
| 17:36.54 | PoIRoot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:37.05 | grabbizle | atomi: ok ill try that command thx |
| 17:37.24 | grabbizle | well actually i dont need to because i used up the entire disk |
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| 17:38.00 | grabbizle | its probably that there is no more space for it considering all the packages that were installed and the separate partitioning of /var /tmp /etc and /home |
| 17:38.01 | grabbizle | idk |
| 17:38.17 | grabbizle | I'll free up my external 500gb one. |
| 17:39.01 | Iridos | grabbizle, put everything into one partition |
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| 17:39.33 | grabbizle | Iridos I want to try mounting partitions though |
| 17:39.36 | grabbizle | it sounds interesting |
| 17:39.40 | Iridos | it's nonsense to separate into so many partitions for a desktop... the only thing that can make sense is a separate /home |
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| 17:39.56 | grabbizle | what about system organization? |
| 17:40.04 | Iridos | what about it |
| 17:40.11 | grabbizle | doesn't security also play a part in it? |
| 17:40.29 | Iridos | on a system that only you use? |
| 17:40.31 | grabbizle | These are uneducated guesses. Im new to linux |
| 17:40.38 | flufmnstr | Tristan, whats your steam ID? |
| 17:40.46 | flufmnstr | woops, wrong window |
| 17:40.55 | Miesco | How do I use xclip to insert text into the shift+insert clipboard on firefox? |
| 17:41.00 | ZZRMike | HA!^ |
| 17:41.13 | ZZRMike | flufmnstr: gonna ask for my password next? ;] |
| 17:41.16 | Iridos | Miesco, ^ |
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| 17:42.00 | flufmnstr | ZZRMike Hello, i am from Valve Customer Service. may i please have your steam ID and password for confirmation? |
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| 17:42.29 | ZZRMike | flufmnstr: Yeah it's ZZRMike and ********* |
| 17:42.39 | flufmnstr | ;) |
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| 17:43.07 | ZZRMike | It's a good thing that irc filters your password and ss#, right? ;D |
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| 17:44.50 | phale | at0m|c: This is bad, this is very bad |
| 17:44.55 | phale | both wlan0 and wlan1 are now connected |
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| 17:45.45 | phale | wlan0 takes precedence |
| 17:45.45 | phale | how do I disconnect one |
| 17:46.18 | phale | ? |
| 17:46.32 | meaneye | Anyone knows where Ghome Shell Extension API is located? Site is anything but useful.' |
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| 17:46.49 | phale | can someone help? |
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| 17:47.05 | phale | both of my wifi devices are connected |
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| 17:55.50 | phale | nevermind, I just disconnected the wifi connection from wlan0 |
| 17:55.52 | phale | all works now |
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| 18:00.19 | felix___ | hello all. I'm building a custom installation CD which includes the redmine package. My issue is that postgres needs to be running for redmine to configure itself. |
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| 18:01.10 | lllama | in Wheezy I ended up using a custom package that would run "service start postgres" after install, which caused postgres to run. |
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| 18:02.09 | cemg | how i run multiple commands with " sudo - u user " ? |
| 18:02.16 | lllama | This doesn't work in jessie, however. I get "unknown service". I can force it by running the init.d script but was wondering whether anyone had a better suggestion for dealing with this. |
| 18:02.25 | greycat | cemg: sudo -u user sh -c 'cmd 1; cmd 2; cmd 3' |
| 18:02.47 | cemg | ohh nice okey |
| 18:02.57 | cemg | thank you |
| 18:03.04 | greycat | Awkward and painful, but it does work. |
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| 18:30.25 | Miesco | Hi, I am a keyboard purist. When I am in the terminal and type `echo Blessed are the cheese makers | xclip -i`, then go to firefox (pentadactyl plugin), it will only let me paste with the middle mouse button... the middle MOUSE button. How do I fix this? |
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| 18:32.14 | frostschutz | Miesco, see your psychiatrist first and buy the mouse after? |
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| 18:40.05 | frostschutz | Miesco, http://askubuntu.com/questions/7769/keyboard-shortcut-for-pasting-the-primary-selection |
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| 18:40.37 | phale | synrGy: are you there |
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| 18:41.03 | phale | guys i need quick help |
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| 18:41.41 | phale | i was having intermittent connections with my wifi card |
| 18:41.43 | phale | so i got a wifi dongle |
| 18:41.52 | phale | but now its having the same issue so it may not be my wifi right |
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| 18:44.15 | phale | hello ? |
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| 18:44.49 | abrotman | or the AP is overheating and resetting |
| 18:44.54 | phale | maybe |
| 18:44.59 | phale | but it doesnt happen on my PC |
| 18:45.04 | phale | i dont disconnect on there usually |
| 18:45.45 | abrotman | did you check dmesg? |
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| 18:46.31 | phale | just did |
| 18:46.38 | abrotman | and? |
| 18:46.48 | phale | it just calls CDRA to update regulatory domain and authenticates a couple times |
| 18:46.54 | phale | and associates itself |
| 18:47.13 | abrotman | did oyu install the cdra package? |
| 18:47.17 | phale | the what |
| 18:47.36 | abrotman | what was that called ... |
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| 18:48.03 | abrotman | judd: versions cdra |
| 18:48.04 | judd | No package named 'cdra' was found in amd64. |
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| 18:48.07 | abrotman | judd: versions crda |
| 18:48.08 | judd | Package: crda on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 1.1.2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.2-1; stretch: 3.13-1; jessie: 3.13-1; sid: 3.13-1 |
| 18:48.11 | phale | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.18 | abrotman | no, not installed? |
| 18:48.22 | phale | dunno |
| 18:48.30 | abrotman | waits while it checks |
| 18:48.40 | phale | ope not installed |
| 18:48.41 | phale | should i install it |
| 18:49.05 | abrotman | Do you think it could get any worse? |
| 18:49.09 | phale | no |
| 18:49.32 | phale | so what now |
| 18:50.26 | abrotman | reload the driver |
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| 18:50.31 | phale | resetting it? |
| 18:50.36 | phale | the laptop i mean |
| 18:50.41 | abrotman | that's one method |
| 18:50.48 | phale | the other is .. |
| 18:51.12 | abrotman | unload/reload the driver |
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| 18:51.27 | abrotman | if you don't know how to do that, rebooting takes less time |
| 18:51.38 | phale | ok ill reboot and get to you in a second |
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| 18:57.06 | phale | abrotman: I reloaded the driver |
| 18:57.15 | abrotman | you mean you rebooted the whole system :) |
| 18:57.19 | abrotman | Any change? |
| 18:57.31 | phale | yes |
| 18:57.32 | phale | in the dmesg |
| 18:57.36 | abrotman | if not, you may need to look at what you're using to manage the connection |
| 18:57.39 | phale | now the "link becomes ready" |
| 18:57.45 | abrotman | this is better or worse? |
| 18:57.48 | phale | not sure |
| 18:57.53 | phale | my connection seems to be faster too, though |
| 18:59.52 | abrotman | Well, when it doesn't crap out, that tends to be the feeling :) |
| 19:00.01 | phale | thank you |
| 19:00.08 | abrotman | have a good day |
| 19:00.11 | phale | im not sure why that fixed it, can you elaborate though |
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| 19:01.53 | abrotman | Read the descriptoin of the package, and google a bit. From what I remember, it says which regions various controllers are permitted to work in. But it's been a long time since I had to look at it |
| 19:02.21 | abrotman | phale: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/regulatory/crda |
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| 19:06.01 | dokma | Is there any way to group in htop by executable? I'd like to know how much memory Chrome/Opera are using. But since they run multiple processes htop lists memory usage per each process while I need a overall total. |
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| 19:06.14 | dokma | Any other tools is fine by me as well. |
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| 19:18.11 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a way to downgrade Apache 2.4 back to 2.2? It seems I can't get 2.4 to work. |
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| 19:19.06 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, and make it so Apache 2.2 never gets upgraded back to 2.4? Sort of locking it. |
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| 19:20.08 | at0m|c | Lady_Aleena: no joy on the upgrade heh |
| 19:20.55 | abrotman | Lady_Aleena: Please don't do that, figure out how to make it work |
| 19:21.21 | Lady_Aleena | at0m|c, no joy. Why the **** did Apache have to mess with how it is configured? *is near tears* |
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| 19:22.05 | at0m|c | Lady_Aleena: it's all stated in the apt before upgrading. it's there to read. dpkg-reconfigure debconf and set to low or so |
| 19:22.28 | at0m|c | and read the changes next time |
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| 19:23.48 | at0m|c | admittedly, i don't remember another upgrade that puzzled me so much as to apache2.4. but i'm reading. if they're mission critical, you better read and research before upgrading. |
| 19:24.25 | Lady_Aleena | at0m|c, too late, I already upgraded. |
| 19:24.32 | abrotman | Good, figure it out now |
| 19:25.44 | Lady_Aleena | Should I just nuke Apache off of my system and reinstall fresh? |
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| 19:26.16 | abrotman | that seems excessive. You're not the first, you won't be the last. People manage to upgrade, I'm sure you can too |
| 19:26.19 | Lady_Aleena | Everything I have tried has failed. |
| 19:26.25 | antiatom | Is the armhf port of Debian not actively developed anymore? |
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| 19:26.35 | at0m|c | what is failing, Lady_Aleena |
| 19:26.39 | at0m|c | not all parts i assume |
| 19:26.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell antiatom about arm |
| 19:27.01 | Lady_Aleena | at0m|c, my site is not loading into the browser. |
| 19:27.13 | abrotman | did you check your apache logs? |
| 19:27.19 | Lady_Aleena | s/my site/localhost at the directory I chose/; |
| 19:27.20 | phale | abrotman |
| 19:27.24 | phale | i just disconnected from runescape |
| 19:27.29 | abrotman | I don't know what that is |
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| 19:27.36 | phale | its a game |
| 19:27.44 | phale | why did i disconnect |
| 19:27.53 | abrotman | I couldn't possibly answer that. Check your system logs |
| 19:28.06 | phale | just CDRA and associating with wlan1 again |
| 19:28.27 | phale | nothing special |
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| 19:28.32 | abrotman | There should be more, read a bit more. It should at least say it disconnected |
| 19:28.54 | phale | it didnt |
| 19:29.01 | at0m|c | phale: you suffered disconnects on onboard wlan. so you picked an external one. same disconnects. where are you stashing the access point? |
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| 19:29.21 | phale | at0m|c: on my computer tower top |
| 19:29.37 | at0m|c | 2 meters? 4 rooms down the hall? |
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| 19:30.17 | phale | no |
| 19:30.19 | at0m|c | bad reception seems to be an issue, too |
| 19:30.21 | antiatom | dpkg: tell antiatom about armhf |
| 19:30.23 | phale | id say its like |
| 19:30.30 | phale | 1 hall away |
| 19:30.38 | phale | but the hall is very small |
| 19:30.52 | at0m|c | ok 2 rooms shouldn't be an issue |
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| 19:31.03 | phale | yeah |
| 19:31.20 | at0m|c | as root, tail -f /var/log/dmesg /var/log/syslog to keep a live monitor |
| 19:31.27 | antiatom | dpkg: tell antiatom about armel vs armhf |
| 19:31.33 | at0m|c | and see hat errors you're getting |
| 19:31.36 | at0m|c | what |
| 19:31.40 | phale | ok |
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| 19:35.54 | dashs | With systemd-sysv how can I force a given sysv init script to wait for a specific mount? The mount is in fstab. |
| 19:36.34 | phale | (Nothing has been logged.) |
| 19:36.37 | phale | yet |
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| 19:39.15 | DrPc | how to install awesome in debian |
| 19:39.32 | phale | at0m |
| 19:39.38 | phale | why does dmesg say nothing has been logged |
| 19:39.41 | DrPc | without any DskEnv |
| 19:40.09 | kisser | Hello |
| 19:40.13 | kisser | i got a problem |
| 19:40.21 | kisser | am trying to install Debian on my laptop |
| 19:40.28 | kisser | my touch pad is not working |
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| 19:40.43 | kisser | but the left and right click are working but using my touch pad to move the cursor |
| 19:40.47 | kisser | its not i tired all ways |
| 19:43.01 | DrPc | how to install awesome in debian jessie ? |
| 19:43.13 | antiatom | DrPc: apt install awesome |
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| 19:44.54 | feh__ | wow apt finally works |
| 19:45.04 | feh__ | I was still using apt-get |
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| 19:45.20 | iveevue | What's the difference between apt and apt-get? |
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| 19:45.48 | feh__ | apt does not have super cow powers :-) |
| 19:47.01 | hassoon | what is that supposed to mean |
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| 19:47.18 | greycat | It... does, actually. Or at least some kind of bovine. |
| 19:47.24 | feh__ | type "apt-get" in a terminal |
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| 19:47.57 | hassoon | i did ? |
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| 19:48.07 | kisser | anyone can help me with that? |
| 19:48.31 | feh__ | hassoon, it's the last line that apt-get prints |
| 19:48.49 | greycat | also try "apt-get moo" or "apt moo" |
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| 19:49.12 | feh__ | oh sweet |
| 19:50.00 | feh__ | kisser, have you installed task-laptop? |
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| 19:50.56 | Yukiteru | hiii o/ |
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| 19:51.04 | kisser | no |
| 19:51.05 | kisser | Lol |
| 19:51.15 | kisser | apt-get install task-laptop |
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| 19:51.25 | feh__ | kisser, it's a good place to start |
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| 19:53.34 | phale | at0m|c: uh |
| 19:53.36 | phale | something about a SSID |
| 19:53.40 | phale | should I post the whole dump somewhere |
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| 19:55.53 | phale | at0m|c: http://codepad.org/ia2z1RtL |
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| 19:57.22 | DrPc | antiatom: my sources.list is not completed |
| 19:57.38 | DrPc | antiatom: i installed now |
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| 19:58.32 | phale | also, in general |
| 19:58.40 | phale | can anyone tell me why my wifi is failing to connect (random disconnects) |
| 19:58.42 | phale | http://codepad.org/ia2z1RtL |
| 19:59.20 | at0m|c | phale: looks like dhcp issue. can you set static ip? |
| 19:59.30 | phale | but all my computers use DHCP |
| 19:59.36 | phale | not sure whats wrong here |
| 20:00.02 | phale | yes I can set static ip |
| 20:00.05 | phale | for ipv4 or ipv6 |
| 20:00.27 | at0m|c | phale: rule of thumb: static ip's on the LAN |
| 20:00.53 | phale | ah |
| 20:00.59 | phale | how do i set to static ip |
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| 20:01.36 | at0m|c | idk, you're doing the nm thing not me |
| 20:01.39 | greycat | configure the interface(s) that you want to be static in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:01.58 | at0m|c | greycat: and that excludes them from his applet/nm |
| 20:02.05 | at0m|c | but yea |
| 20:02.07 | greycat | *shrug* I know nothing about that. |
| 20:02.12 | at0m|c | same |
| 20:02.17 | phale | : ( |
| 20:02.49 | phale | so by static IP |
| 20:02.51 | phale | you mean like |
| 20:02.51 | at0m|c | phale: so then back to the applet |
| 20:02.54 | phale | ok |
| 20:03.04 | at0m|c | like pick your own ip per MAC |
| 20:03.07 | at0m|c | or device |
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| 20:03.20 | phale | im really confused |
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| 20:04.29 | feh__ | phale, oh I had this once, I don't remember how I solved it |
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| 20:04.39 | phale | :( |
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| 20:05.47 | feh__ | phale, on how to configure your network with /etc/network/interfaces https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 20:06.47 | feh__ | using that will disable network manager in your wireless interface |
| 20:07.10 | phale | so |
| 20:07.18 | phale | this can be any address and gateway |
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| 20:08.03 | feh__ | yep |
| 20:08.15 | phale | ok |
| 20:08.23 | phale | and my problems are solved? |
| 20:08.24 | feh__ | just use the same gateway that you use on your other machines |
| 20:08.35 | phale | i dont know that gateway |
| 20:08.40 | feh__ | if you follow the guide, probably |
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| 20:08.45 | greycat | and the same netmask, though that is probably 255.255.255.0 |
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| 20:09.02 | feh__ | what OS are you using on your other machines? |
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| 20:09.12 | phale | linux |
| 20:09.17 | phale | debian 7 to be precise |
| 20:09.20 | phale | on my PC |
| 20:09.26 | feh__ | and they are connecting? |
| 20:09.30 | phale | not with wifi |
| 20:09.33 | phale | but yea |
| 20:09.43 | feh__ | sudo ifconfig |
| 20:09.47 | phale | inet addr:192.168.1.100 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 20:09.54 | feh__ | there |
| 20:09.58 | phale | so I just bind it to this? |
| 20:10.12 | feh__ | just use a different ip address |
| 20:10.14 | ompaul | 7.8 one hopes |
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| 20:10.23 | phale | so |
| 20:10.28 | greycat | use an IP address that no other computer is currently using |
| 20:10.30 | phale | 192.168.1.109 is acceptable |
| 20:10.35 | feh__ | sure |
| 20:10.48 | feh__ | yeah, that that greycat said |
| 20:10.50 | phale | gateway: 88.207.88.1 |
| 20:11.04 | greycat | Best would be to find out what range your DHCP server is allowed to use, and use a static IP just outside that range. |
| 20:11.08 | at0m|c | phale: you get dhcp time-outs on the lan. sticking to fix ip will rid you of the dhcp timeouts, and maybe maybe of the wlan reconnects |
| 20:11.18 | phale | ok |
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| 20:11.29 | phale | is it iface lo |
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| 20:11.31 | phale | or iface wlan1 |
| 20:11.34 | at0m|c | wlan1 |
| 20:11.35 | phale | ok |
| 20:11.37 | greycat | lo is loopback |
| 20:11.40 | at0m|c | lo is 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:12.03 | at0m|c | greycat: even better, set the router for the mac to the same IP as the static ip. |
| 20:12.03 | phale | whats my gateway |
| 20:12.16 | feh__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopback |
| 20:12.24 | at0m|c | if router has dhcp reservation ofc |
| 20:12.30 | greycat | ask your other computer what its default gateway (route) is |
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| 20:12.36 | phale | i cant |
| 20:12.39 | greycat | why not? |
| 20:12.41 | phale | i dont have access to it now |
| 20:12.55 | greycat | where did you get that "inet addr:192.168.1.100 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0" from? |
| 20:12.59 | phale | ifconfig |
| 20:13.05 | feh__ | lol |
| 20:13.21 | phale | 192.168.1.1? |
| 20:13.24 | phale | thats my router IP |
| 20:13.25 | phale | is that it? |
| 20:13.27 | feh__ | so you are using a physical cable to connect right? |
| 20:13.31 | phale | no, wifi |
| 20:13.39 | at0m|c | phale: router is your gw |
| 20:13.43 | phale | ok then |
| 20:13.45 | at0m|c | so .1.1 |
| 20:13.49 | feh__ | how are you talking to us then? |
| 20:13.57 | at0m|c | your wifi, .1.100 i suppose |
| 20:13.58 | phale | my wifi works partially |
| 20:14.05 | feh__ | ah I see |
| 20:14.14 | phale | so |
| 20:14.19 | phale | address 192.168.1.147 |
| 20:14.19 | phale | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 20:14.19 | phale | gateway 192.168.1.1 |
| 20:14.23 | phale | good? |
| 20:14.28 | at0m|c | yup |
| 20:14.33 | phale | alright ill try it |
| 20:14.39 | phale | sudo service networkmanager restart right |
| 20:14.54 | at0m|c | you're the nm guy |
| 20:14.58 | phale | kk |
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| 20:14.59 | at0m|c | (or gal) |
| 20:15.06 | feh__ | have you used networkmanager to input the information? |
| 20:15.24 | feh__ | thinks it's too late |
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| 20:17.08 | phale | oh god |
| 20:17.11 | phale | well it disconnected me |
| 20:17.14 | phale | i couldnt connect |
| 20:18.28 | feh__ | did you use /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 20:18.36 | phale | yes |
| 20:18.39 | feh__ | ah |
| 20:19.09 | feh__ | you have to use ifup and ifdown |
| 20:19.16 | phale | why |
| 20:19.41 | feh__ | because when you edit that file network-manager says "fuck it" |
| 20:19.44 | at0m|c | needs wpa settings in interfaces when he goes without nm |
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| 20:19.48 | phale | so |
| 20:19.48 | feh__ | and does not configure that interface |
| 20:19.59 | phale | I do that after editing the file |
| 20:20.12 | feh__ | ah at0m|c is right also |
| 20:20.43 | phale | at0m|c: huh |
| 20:20.59 | at0m|c | phale: tl;dr in the end we all use interfaces except gannies |
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| 20:21.05 | at0m|c | grannies |
| 20:21.15 | phale | ok |
| 20:21.18 | feh__ | I use network manager |
| 20:21.23 | feh__ | :^) |
| 20:21.27 | phale | so i how do i put WPA |
| 20:21.28 | at0m|c | oh feh__ |
| 20:21.29 | phale | in it |
| 20:21.38 | at0m|c | walk him through :) |
| 20:21.44 | abrotman | !enter |
| 20:21.44 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 20:21.46 | feh__ | first you revert your changes to intertaces |
| 20:22.16 | phale | already done |
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| 20:22.36 | feh__ | do you see some kind of wireless symbol at your status bar |
| 20:22.44 | feh__ | usually at the top of your screen |
| 20:22.49 | phale | no |
| 20:22.53 | phale | im using dwm |
| 20:23.19 | feh__ | oh |
| 20:23.28 | phale | anyways |
| 20:23.31 | phale | tell me what to do |
| 20:23.36 | phale | i know how to access the connection editor |
| 20:23.37 | feh__ | you need the widget to configure network manager |
| 20:23.40 | phale | yes |
| 20:23.42 | phale | nm-connection-editor |
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| 20:24.30 | feh__ | select your wifi ssid and edit it |
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| 20:25.21 | phale | doing it |
| 20:25.24 | phale | now what |
| 20:25.26 | feh__ | in the ipv4 settings you will find the method selector which you need to set to manual |
| 20:25.33 | phale | ok |
| 20:25.38 | phale | i did |
| 20:25.45 | feh__ | then you input the stuff that we were talking about |
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| 20:26.17 | feh__ | address netmask and gateway |
| 20:26.33 | phale | done |
| 20:26.33 | phale | now what |
| 20:26.46 | feh__ | click save and hopefully it will reconnect |
| 20:26.54 | phale | fingers crossed ! |
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| 20:27.13 | phale | ok |
| 20:27.16 | phale | how do i know it reconnected |
| 20:27.26 | feh__ | ... |
| 20:27.38 | phale | lol |
| 20:27.59 | feh__ | the widget should have flashed and notificated that you have reconnected :D |
| 20:28.04 | phale | it didnt |
| 20:28.30 | feh__ | alright, let me retrace the steps over here |
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| 20:32.17 | feh__ | I forgot to tell you to input the dns server :B |
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| 20:32.37 | phale | ok |
| 20:32.50 | phale | whats the dns server |
| 20:33.01 | feh__ | it should be the same as your gateway |
| 20:33.13 | feh__ | probably |
| 20:33.33 | phale | ok now what |
| 20:33.35 | phale | did i reconnect |
| 20:33.41 | feh__ | nah |
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| 20:33.56 | feh__ | you have to tell network manager to connect to your ssid |
| 20:34.30 | phale | cant i just restart it |
| 20:34.31 | feh__ | the way you normally do, which for me is through the widget |
| 20:34.43 | feh__ | I don't know |
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| 20:35.04 | phale | ill try restarting |
| 20:35.08 | feh__ | k |
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| 20:36.40 | synt_ | feh__ |
| 20:36.43 | synt_ | it worked, |
| 20:36.48 | feh__ | oh sweet |
| 20:36.55 | synt_ | I did ifconfig and it says my inet addr is 192.168.1.147 |
| 20:36.57 | synt_ | thats right |
| 20:37.09 | synt_ | so i shouldnt get any more connection issues? |
| 20:37.20 | feh__ | I have no idea |
| 20:37.27 | synt_ | ok |
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| 20:44.41 | meaneye_ | Anyone knows how to install OBS on Debian? |
| 20:44.43 | Linnak | Hi Everyone, I have never could install Debian with Gnome-shell just with gnome fallback. At the point at installation there is a window which asks which desktop environment do I want to install I have to choose debian and gnome or just gnome? |
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| 20:50.01 | allizom | Linnak: task-gnome-desktop depends on task-desktop so you should need both if you want GNOME |
| 20:50.02 | acz32 | you can choose debian desktop environment |
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| 20:50.22 | greycat | well, choosing x that depends on y is going to install y |
| 20:50.35 | greycat | but it doesn't hurt to explicitly ask for y as well |
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| 20:52.09 | acz32 | i wonder why debian even has a default "debian desktop environment" option when it lists them all and makes you select what you want anyways |
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| 20:56.20 | phale | hey guys |
| 20:56.21 | Linnak | allizom thank you |
| 20:56.25 | phale | I get some disconnection reason from syslog |
| 20:56.27 | phale | but idont disconnect |
| 20:56.30 | phale | can anyone inspect this |
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| 20:58.57 | Brigo | Linnak, gnome-shell is the default. |
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| 20:59.10 | Brigo | if you cannot install it, you should have an issue. |
| 20:59.22 | Brigo | more likely graphics card support. |
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| 20:59.32 | Linnak | Brigo non of them marked except debian desktop |
| 21:00.20 | Linnak | so that's the default and that is not gnome, maybe the fallback or classic |
| 21:00.35 | Brigo | Linnak, the fallback, i think. |
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| 21:00.46 | Linnak | i think so |
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| 21:02.00 | Brigo | Linnak, do you can choose gnome from loggin screen? |
| 21:02.27 | Linnak | i couldn't |
| 21:05.50 | Brigo | Linnak, did you have gnome-session-bin package installed? |
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| 21:08.31 | Linnak | Brigo sorry I can't remember. tomorrow I will try it again. now I'm playin with manjaro because on this I can try out gnome |
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| 21:08.47 | Brigo | Linnak, ok. |
| 21:09.31 | Brigo | Linnak, my guess is you need non-free drivers, which are not available in debian by default. |
| 21:10.24 | Linnak | Brigo I'll try that as well. thanks |
| 21:10.31 | Brigo | Linnak, np, good luck :) |
| 21:10.40 | Linnak | bye |
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| 21:24.22 | Denlud | Hey, how is it going? |
| 21:24.41 | Denlud | I have a problem... |
| 21:24.51 | phale | elaborate |
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| 21:25.51 | Denlud | A big problem... |
| 21:26.35 | balleroctopus | Thank you for elaborating |
| 21:27.45 | Denlud | I have to set up a server for a company. |
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| 21:28.06 | Denlud | And this server must save the data from 1200 people + their accounts. |
| 21:28.28 | Denlud | And i dont know anything about linux or server.... |
| 21:28.38 | balleroctopus | is there anyone there who has done this? |
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| 21:29.09 | balleroctopus | An IT guy from $company past, or that one guy who sat in the corner and nobody really knew what he did? |
| 21:29.10 | Denlud | what should i do now? |
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| 21:30.59 | Denlud | But now i have to do something, the server must be ready until tomorrow |
| 21:31.01 | phale | Denlud: install debian |
| 21:31.14 | Denlud | how? |
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| 21:31.20 | phale | its easier than you think |
| 21:31.35 | phale | does the server have an internet connection at this moment |
| 21:31.52 | Denlud | no |
| 21:32.04 | phale | then you have to either install debian with an USB, CD or DVD |
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| 21:32.33 | phale | do you have any of those peripherals? |
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| 21:32.48 | Denlud | i have a 2gb usb stick |
| 21:32.57 | phale | hmm |
| 21:33.03 | micechal | in your usual Debian installation, do you need linux-headers-* package? |
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| 21:33.23 | Denlud | and the server has to save the whole windows account |
| 21:33.31 | Denlud | i dont know how to do that |
| 21:33.54 | phale | oh yeah |
| 21:34.01 | phale | the CD drives are less than a gigabyte |
| 21:34.03 | balleroctopus | wait you mean every windows acct has to be backed up completely? |
| 21:34.11 | Denlud | I never installed a linux distri |
| 21:34.21 | Denlud | Yes from 1200 people. |
| 21:34.25 | phale | Denlud: its okay ill try to help you install debian |
| 21:34.28 | phale | its very simple |
| 21:34.42 | phale | do you want a lightweight desktop environment? |
| 21:34.49 | phale | or an aestethical one |
| 21:34.56 | phale | (XFCE, KDE, GNOME) |
| 21:35.28 | Denlud | i take "Gnome" thats a funny name |
| 21:35.37 | phale | it uses a lot of resources |
| 21:35.38 | phale | are you sure |
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| 21:35.46 | Denlud | oh then i take kde |
| 21:35.52 | phale | oh well |
| 21:35.52 | phale | sure |
| 21:35.57 | phale | i think its okay on a server |
| 21:36.02 | phale | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-8.1.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 21:36.10 | phale | download this then burn it to an USB somehow |
| 21:36.20 | phale | its 647MB |
| 21:36.22 | micechal | wait |
| 21:36.29 | micechal | doesn't KDE use more resources than gnome? |
| 21:36.34 | phale | i dont think so |
| 21:36.44 | micechal | I always believed it did |
| 21:36.51 | balleroctopus | micechal: i think KDE4 does by default |
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| 21:37.05 | phale | gnome is really strange though |
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| 21:37.33 | Denlud | maybe i take xfce, all good things are 3 |
| 21:37.38 | phale | ok |
| 21:37.47 | phale | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-8.1.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso |
| 21:37.56 | phale | this is Debian 8.1.0, should be easy enough to install |
| 21:38.08 | Denlud | good, after i installed it, what should i do? |
| 21:38.15 | phale | setup your server |
| 21:38.32 | phale | im not sure how that works so you have to ask someone else |
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| 21:38.39 | Denlud | I have a infrastructure with 1200 computer. And their user accounts should be backup on my server |
| 21:38.46 | phale | okay |
| 21:38.52 | phale | i understand |
| 21:39.08 | phale | user accounts, you mean like their logins? |
| 21:39.17 | Denlud | Yes their windows accounts |
| 21:39.33 | Denlud | i have to finish my project until tomorrow |
| 21:39.42 | phale | i guess you connect to the computers |
| 21:39.50 | phale | and copy the profile settings |
| 21:39.55 | phale | probably |
| 21:40.02 | micechal | this doesn't sound easy at all, at least for me |
| 21:40.11 | phale | micechal: it's not |
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| 21:40.47 | micechal | Denlud: do you have some script for that already? |
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| 21:40.56 | Denlud | No |
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| 21:41.13 | micechal | well, good luck then |
| 21:41.38 | Denlud | itś easy....ask phale... |
| 21:41.53 | phale | no its not |
| 21:42.01 | phale | sorry |
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| 21:42.24 | Denlud | and the server should be able to block users, too. |
| 21:42.33 | Denlud | and activate them again. |
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| 21:42.51 | Denlud | It has to be a linux server. |
| 21:43.08 | Denlud | i must finish it until tomorrow. |
| 21:43.10 | micechal | but you haven't got much experience administering linux systems, am I right? |
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| 21:43.28 | phale | Denlud: just install debian and you should be fine by asking someone what to do |
| 21:43.32 | phale | about the server |
| 21:43.41 | Denlud | 3 years ago i buy a computer and on it was ubuntu |
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| 21:44.02 | Denlud | after that i never did something with configurations in linux again |
| 21:44.14 | macbookusb | is there any 2015 newbie friendly guide on installing jessie via a usb stick on a macbook? The cdrom drive is broken. The machine is a Late 2007 - MB063LL/B - MacBook3,1 - A1181 - 2200 |
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| 21:45.46 | Denlud | Yes it starts installing.... |
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| 21:46.12 | jd1 | well for start, dd the livecd img to the usb |
| 21:46.20 | jd1 | not sure what macbook specific things you need from there |
| 21:46.22 | Denlud | now it cant be much work to do. |
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| 21:46.32 | allizom | macbookusb: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 21:46.39 | micechal | Denlud: I don't think I've joined this channel early enough, so I didn't have the opportunity to read your earlier messages. All these 1200 computers are reunning windows, right? |
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| 21:47.25 | Denlud | Yes |
| 21:47.46 | micechal | they are all in the same network? |
| 21:47.50 | micechal | local network? |
| 21:48.00 | Denlud | And i have to set up a Server which stores their windows accounts. And is able to disable their accounts. |
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| 21:48.04 | Denlud | And to enable them. |
| 21:48.26 | Denlud | yes they are all in one local network |
| 21:48.53 | Denlud | some virtual lans, but one big physical lan |
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| 21:49.20 | micechal | so the server has to connect to each of them, fetch the profile and so? |
| 21:49.31 | micechal | or the computers connect to server and upload their profile |
| 21:49.38 | Denlud | I have never do configurations in linux. And never installed one. |
| 21:49.45 | Denlud | So thats the Problem... |
| 21:49.51 | macbookusb | allizom, i tried cp <file> <device> and the sync . the usb stick boots jessie on my intel core i3 laptop but not on the macbook |
| 21:50.00 | micechal | and you haven't got any software to do the job? |
| 21:50.05 | Denlud | Yes yes micechal |
| 21:50.18 | Denlud | No, nothing. |
| 21:50.20 | jd1 | that sounds like something a windows app would do |
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| 21:50.32 | micechal | it seems kind of impossible |
| 21:50.40 | micechal | at least to make it work until tomorrow |
| 21:50.42 | Denlud | What why? |
| 21:50.54 | balleroctopus | Denlud: How did you get this project |
| 21:51.05 | Denlud | phale said that would be easy....i already downloaded the image... |
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| 21:51.11 | phale | i said installing it would be easy |
| 21:51.16 | phale | not setting up the server |
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| 21:51.32 | Denlud | i thought installing would be the difficult part |
| 21:51.35 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Installing linux does not magically set up exactly what you need |
| 21:51.45 | balleroctopus | the install is easy... the rest is hard |
| 21:52.05 | Denlud | I have to finish it in 6 hours....that must be possible... |
| 21:52.12 | balleroctopus | Denlud: WHAT |
| 21:52.14 | _yareckon | hey, anyone had the situation that a laptop thinks that eth0 is up, and wireless wont really work? |
| 21:52.16 | micechal | Denlud: do you have experience with scripting languages like Python, Perl, maybe shell scripts? |
| 21:52.17 | Denlud | ? |
| 21:52.20 | allizom | macbookusb: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204417 |
| 21:52.32 | balleroctopus | Denlud: How did you get this project? |
| 21:52.33 | jd1 | you might want to spend the next 6 hours brushing up your resume |
| 21:52.38 | Denlud | No, no experience. |
| 21:52.43 | micechal | wow |
| 21:52.55 | _yareckon | web pages wont load until I do ifdown eth0 |
| 21:52.58 | netdemon | anything that simulate active directory in linux ? |
| 21:53.09 | Denlud | How i get the project? |
| 21:53.12 | micechal | netdemon: in what way? |
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| 21:53.44 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Yes, if you have no experience then why are you suddenly jumping in to crazy projects? |
| 21:53.50 | allizom | macbookusb: you need to start Startup Manager by holding Option at boot time |
| 21:54.07 | Denlud | I had a conversation with a company two mounths ago. And i get the project.... |
| 21:54.13 | macbookusb | allizom, the macbook has NO operating system currently installed |
| 21:54.14 | Denlud | *mounths |
| 21:54.28 | Denlud | *months |
| 21:54.39 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Did they give you the project two months ago? Or did they just now give you the project? |
| 21:54.56 | micechal | so during these 2 months you didn't do anything? |
| 21:55.04 | Denlud | They gave it two months ago. |
| 21:55.19 | Denlud | I bought a server 1 month ago.... |
| 21:55.37 | Denlud | that was hard, i had to bring to the company with my private car... |
| 21:55.54 | micechal | I kinda find this funny |
| 21:56.02 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Can you link us to the server? |
| 21:56.05 | netdemon | micechal, http://pgina.org/ |
| 21:56.12 | _yareckon | Denlud, you are trolling us dude, |
| 21:56.14 | allizom | macbookusb: It should work anyway, if it doesn't, hold the C key at startup ( https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255 ) |
| 21:56.30 | balleroctopus | _yareckon: Let's not assume! |
| 21:56.54 | phale | _yareckon: Please don't call people "trolls" without knowing if they're joking or not |
| 21:57.11 | _yareckon | I stand corrected |
| 21:57.24 | micechal | netdemon: not sure what you mean with this link |
| 21:57.28 | balleroctopus | ... how do I scroll down in the userlist in weechat :P |
| 21:57.47 | Denlud | So the install finished |
| 21:57.57 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Okay, that's a start |
| 21:57.57 | Denlud | the server is starting, aah great. |
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| 21:58.34 | micechal | the installation disc or the installed system? |
| 21:58.46 | Denlud | the installation disc finished |
| 21:58.57 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Good! That means that your computer turns on! |
| 21:58.59 | Denlud | i took xfce |
| 21:59.00 | macbookusb | i did hold the option key at boot time but the usb stick did not boot up. The C key? you mean the letter c key? |
| 21:59.16 | allizom | macbookusb: yes, that one |
| 21:59.19 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Now what do you have to do with it? |
| 21:59.20 | Denlud | Yes, maybe i should now take a break, that was a kind of tricky |
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| 21:59.30 | micechal | netdemon: actually nevermind, I didn't know Active Directory was a thing |
| 21:59.36 | balleroctopus | Denlud: whattttttt |
| 21:59.40 | micechal | hahaha |
| 21:59.42 | _yareckon | lol |
| 21:59.48 | netdemon | micechal, isn't Denlud searching on an authentication system ? |
| 21:59.55 | macbookusb | i did hold the C key as well and the usb stick did not boot up |
| 21:59.56 | _yareckon | some folks are coming around to my opinion |
| 21:59.59 | micechal | is this the real life? |
| 22:00.09 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Come ON what are you doing?! Don't just take a break! |
| 22:00.14 | Denlud | Oh ok. |
| 22:00.30 | balleroctopus | Denlud: you're SURE this is a real job? |
| 22:00.38 | micechal | netdemon: I believe his problem is much more than that, actually |
| 22:01.00 | balleroctopus | micechal: netdemon: I think this might be a place to start, perhaps |
| 22:01.05 | allizom | macbookusb: you should be holding it from the moment you hear the chime up until the usb key is booted |
| 22:01.11 | Denlud | Sure? |
| 22:01.14 | Denlud | What do you mean? |
| 22:01.22 | balleroctopus | so Denlud, what are your goals with this? |
| 22:01.49 | balleroctopus | You have to make this debian server connect to your network and administer all the windows accounts? |
| 22:02.01 | mossyfoss | hello. i'm trying to boot debian using an efi stub. it appears that efibootmgr is working okay, but when I try to boot the only paramater it's getting is the initrd, no root=, rootfstype=, ro, add_efi_memmap etc. i'm using the guide here: https://wiki.debian.org/EFIStub |
| 22:02.14 | macbookusb | allizom, i held it immediately after pressing the power button. that was wrong wasn't it? |
| 22:02.19 | Denlud | I have to save their user accounts on the server. And be able to activate and disable them. |
| 22:02.33 | netdemon | micechal, balleroctopus he talked about enabling and disabling accounts |
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| 22:02.52 | Denlud | And store their accounts, manage the logins and so on. |
| 22:02.56 | Denlud | create new users. |
| 22:02.57 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Okay, so knowing the objective is the first step. What server do you have? Did you buy one or buy a bunch of parts, etc |
| 22:03.06 | micechal | haha |
| 22:03.12 | allizom | macbookusb: could be, I don't remember if that works too, however the suggested method is the one I told you. Does it work now? |
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| 22:04.19 | macbookusb | i do not have the macbook right now. but will try out your suggestions as soon as i have it |
| 22:04.56 | Denlud | I buy one, which was ready to run. |
| 22:05.05 | balleroctopus | Okay |
| 22:05.12 | Denlud | I mean i dont have to get the parts together. |
| 22:05.21 | balleroctopus | Which server did you buy? Just so we can see what you're working with |
| 22:05.23 | micechal | that's actually better I believe |
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| 22:06.18 | Denlud | Yes, i dont know how to build a computer. So that was better. |
| 22:06.36 | balleroctopus | I agree. |
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| 22:07.32 | balleroctopus | So let's identify some goals here... 1: we need network storage for everything to back up to. Denlud, how much storage space does your server have? |
| 22:07.51 | Denlud | Ahhhh now i could connect to the virtual lans. There was a Problem with the network cards. |
| 22:08.15 | Denlud | Is debian limited to the number of network cards? |
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| 22:08.24 | Denlud | There is one that is not working. |
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| 22:09.12 | Denlud | i have 100 TB storage. |
| 22:09.20 | phale | what the hell |
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| 22:09.43 | balleroctopus | phale: yeah, i'm just trying to be helpful |
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| 22:10.05 | phale | wasnt talking about you |
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| 22:10.07 | phale | 100TB storage? |
| 22:10.19 | Denlud | Is the number of network cards limited? |
| 22:10.28 | Denlud | @phale: yes |
| 22:10.32 | micechal_ | damn it, had to lose connection just now |
| 22:10.34 | micechal_ | a bit of backlog anyone? |
| 22:10.54 | phale | sorry i wasnt aware that exists until a quick google search |
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| 22:11.13 | Denlud | there are 1200 accounts.... |
| 22:11.29 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Okay... where did you get this server?! |
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| 22:12.04 | Denlud | I think this project will be close in time!! |
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| 22:12.26 | Denlud | this is more than i expect on work, but ok. |
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| 22:12.31 | Denlud | *of |
| 22:12.36 | balleroctopus | wattttt |
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| 22:12.45 | balleroctopus | micechal_: so he has 100TB of storage |
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| 22:12.52 | balleroctopus | and one network card is killed |
| 22:12.55 | netdemon | i think this a trolling situation |
| 22:13.03 | balleroctopus | Denlud: how many network cards do you have? |
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| 22:13.19 | micechal_ | balleroctopus: that's a lot |
| 22:13.22 | Denlud | 9 |
| 22:13.29 | Denlud | and one is not working |
| 22:13.36 | Denlud | but the led is working |
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| 22:13.50 | micechal_ | how do you know it's not working? |
| 22:14.00 | Equa | Denlud: what do you need to do. Try to give me a goal set in mind instead of task. |
| 22:14.02 | balleroctopus | Sweet, so you can hook up a battery to the LED and have a flashlight!!!! |
| 22:14.08 | Denlud | i cant ping a client in the 10. virtual network |
| 22:14.24 | Denlud | sry 9. network |
| 22:14.54 | balleroctopus | Denlud: wait, was there a server before this one? |
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| 22:16.06 | Denlud | Yes..... |
| 22:16.15 | micechal_ | it was on Windows? |
| 22:16.17 | Denlud | but i dont think that will help us |
| 22:16.24 | balleroctopus | Denlud: OHHHH THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH |
| 22:16.30 | hexnewbie | Does not compute |
| 22:16.45 | Denlud | it was a linux server and it only stores data. |
| 22:16.55 | Denlud | It cant handle the logins usw. |
| 22:17.01 | Denlud | sry *etc. |
| 22:17.05 | micechal_ | so it wasn't configured to do what the new server has to? |
| 22:17.17 | Denlud | but i dont set it up |
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| 22:17.54 | balleroctopus | So this means we don't have to set up network connections, etc |
| 22:18.00 | Denlud | Yes |
| 22:18.10 | balleroctopus | So what still needs done then? |
| 22:18.13 | Denlud | The only problem is that i cant ping my 9. network |
| 22:18.17 | balleroctopus | and what have you been doing for a month? |
| 22:18.22 | micechal_ | balleroctopus: now it's the easier part |
| 22:18.33 | micechal_ | just set up a control-panel kind of script |
| 22:18.36 | micechal_ | preferably with a gui |
| 22:18.41 | balleroctopus | micechal_: yeah, not too bad at all |
| 22:18.50 | micechal_ | so you can backup accounts and whatnot |
| 22:19.02 | balleroctopus | though I've never done it, so maybe its craAaAaAazy |
| 22:19.09 | Denlud | I get it, the driver wasnt installed. |
| 22:19.18 | micechal_ | oh my |
| 22:19.22 | balleroctopus | Denlud: do the network cards have different drivers? |
| 22:19.32 | Denlud | I think so. |
| 22:19.39 | micechal_ | did you install the driver for each of the other cards? |
| 22:19.43 | Denlud | no |
| 22:19.53 | micechal_ | is it a different type of card or something? |
| 22:20.01 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Seriously, can we get some specs for this server? |
| 22:20.15 | Denlud | I think so, the card looks a bit different |
| 22:20.32 | micechal_ | that would make sense |
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| 22:21.41 | Denlud | I can ping every client!! |
| 22:21.44 | Denlud | Guys i love you! |
| 22:21.54 | balleroctopus | We love you to Denlud |
| 22:22.00 | netdemon | me too |
| 22:22.14 | balleroctopus | Still want some specs :/ But I'll never get em |
| 22:22.49 | Denlud | Ok... what do you want to know, i got the manual.... |
| 22:23.28 | hexnewbie | There really needs to be a ENOCOMPUTE errno, it should be intepreted simialrly to EAGAIN. The Linux kernel AI should parse any chat messages, and return them back to the (IRC) client if necessary asking for them to be rewritten. |
| 22:23.28 | Denlud | Sorry i dont answer every question, i am a bit nervous at the moment. If you could understand that |
| 22:23.55 | balleroctopus | Denlud: I totally get it man, no problem. Just... what's the brand and model of the server? If you have one |
| 22:24.08 | mossyfoss | hello. i'm trying to boot debian using an efi stub. it appears that efibootmgr is working okay, but when I try to boot the only paramater it's getting is the initrd, no root=, rootfstype=, ro, add_efi_memmap etc. i'm using the guide here: https://wiki.debian.org/EFIStub |
| 22:25.09 | phale | hexnewbie: no |
| 22:25.14 | mossyfoss | i've just tried installing grub efi and failed miserably as it can't find the disk (by uuid) |
| 22:25.20 | Denlud | I think its a PowerEdge R920. |
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| 22:25.37 | Denlud | But somebody else customized it for me. |
| 22:25.38 | Linnak | Hi, if I don't give password to root the user has rott priviliges with sudo right |
| 22:25.45 | Linnak | I can't boot my system |
| 22:25.54 | Linnak | i've just installed |
| 22:26.21 | balleroctopus | Denlud: What customizations did he make? Do you know? |
| 22:26.32 | Equa | Linnak: the user need to be in the sudo group in order to do sudo |
| 22:26.50 | phale | Equa: hey equa |
| 22:26.53 | Linnak | Can i do it in recover ymode? |
| 22:26.54 | phale | I got the wifi dongle working |
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| 22:27.03 | Equa | phale: that's good news |
| 22:27.19 | phale | i had to make the IP static as well since I was having issues with DHCP |
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| 22:27.44 | Equa | Linnak: what's wrong with your computer atm? |
| 22:27.47 | Denlud | How can i start a linux script? |
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| 22:28.09 | micechal_ | ./script |
| 22:28.14 | Equa | phale: how is it going for you? if you have access to the router, reserve ip would work too |
| 22:28.14 | Linnak | Equa atm? |
| 22:28.17 | Denlud | great thanks |
| 22:28.41 | phale | Equa: well, the wi-fi is slow |
| 22:28.44 | phale | a little bit |
| 22:28.48 | Denlud | Its Working. The script started. |
| 22:28.48 | phale | you get some lag issues at times |
| 22:28.50 | Equa | Linnak: what issues are you having? You stated if you don't give root, user can use sudo. I don't know the problem |
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| 22:29.04 | balleroctopus | HOLY CHRIST... that server is a beast! |
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| 22:29.44 | balleroctopus | Denlud: though Dell does recommend either Suse, Red Hat, or probably CentOS |
| 22:29.45 | Denlud | My work is done, thanks micechal, the script is working now. |
| 22:29.49 | phale | wow |
| 22:29.51 | Equa | phale: wifi isn't realiable. i prefer wired over wireless |
| 22:29.54 | phale | it costs for $9399 |
| 22:29.59 | micechal_ | Denlud: you said you didn't have any script? |
| 22:30.00 | phale | thats too much for a server |
| 22:30.28 | balleroctopus | phale: yeah. But look at the specs! maybe not killer for a server, but from a desktop user perspective that's awesome |
| 22:30.31 | Equa | phale: if you server a large number of clients... it's not even a big server |
| 22:30.34 | Denlud | Yes i had no script for the installation |
| 22:30.40 | balleroctopus | Denlud: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 22:30.42 | Equa | *serve |
| 22:30.52 | Denlud | but after the installation the drivers i only have to run the script |
| 22:30.58 | Denlud | *and the drivers |
| 22:31.03 | balleroctopus | Denlud: Can I ask you a few more questions? |
| 22:31.20 | Denlud | Clear. |
| 22:31.54 | balleroctopus | What processor/RAM are currently in there? |
| 22:32.55 | Linnak | After this http://i.imgur.com/ZH5jYHs.jpg |
| 22:32.56 | Denlud | My company ordered a customization, i get the bill and look for it. |
| 22:33.03 | Denlud | *can get |
| 22:33.18 | Linnak | I have a black screen with the curson on the top left and I can't do anything |
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| 22:33.50 | micechal_ | Denlud: just cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:34.08 | Equa | Linnak: do you have the installation cd ? we'll need to go into rescue mode |
| 22:34.16 | Linnak | yes |
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| 22:35.02 | Denlud | The script is working now. |
| 22:35.17 | balleroctopus | Denlud: awesome! |
| 22:35.22 | balleroctopus | did you write it? |
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| 22:35.48 | Denlud | Ok i dont know exectly what it is, but it has a raid 5 with 96 TB storage. |
| 22:36.14 | Denlud | No i dont wrote it. |
| 22:36.17 | balleroctopus | Denlud: you can type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" into a terminal |
| 22:36.49 | Denlud | As i said, the script is working.... |
| 22:37.05 | micechal_ | you can have many terminal windows open at any time |
| 22:37.14 | micechal_ | you are in the XFCE mode? |
| 22:37.15 | balleroctopus | Denlud: yeah! You should be able to open up 2 terminals at once :-) |
| 22:37.15 | Denlud | How? |
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| 22:37.24 | balleroctopus | Well... you're using xfce right? |
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| 22:37.31 | Linnak | Equa I'm in rescue mode. Can you help me? |
| 22:37.44 | Denlud | I can only see a black screen with a massage: Please Wait.... |
| 22:37.53 | balleroctopus | wait |
| 22:37.55 | balleroctopus | wut |
| 22:37.57 | balleroctopus | hmmmmm |
| 22:37.57 | Denlud | i already tried to stop it with "esc" |
| 22:38.01 | micechal_ | so you didn't even start XFCE? |
| 22:38.02 | balleroctopus | Well... try this |
| 22:38.07 | micechal_ | you stop it with ctrl C |
| 22:38.13 | balleroctopus | press ctrl + alt + f1 |
| 22:38.26 | Equa | Linnak: type df -h in the shell screen |
| 22:39.05 | balleroctopus | then, you can press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to where you were... but for now, just do that |
| 22:39.12 | Linnak | Equa yes |
| 22:39.12 | balleroctopus | then you have a new terminal to type in |
| 22:39.14 | Linnak | done |
| 22:39.20 | micechal_ | balleroctopus: why 7? |
| 22:39.36 | Equa | Linnak: i need the output. use paste.debian.net |
| 22:39.37 | balleroctopus | micechal_: because I thought that's where X runs by default? |
| 22:39.53 | dokma | Can all meta packages be safely removed? |
| 22:40.08 | micechal_ | balleroctopus: it doesn't look like he's in X at all |
| 22:40.11 | Linnak | as i set hungarian I type it for you |
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| 22:40.27 | balleroctopus | Denlud: What do you see on your screen right now? |
| 22:40.29 | Equa | !locale |
| 22:40.29 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
| 22:41.15 | Linnak | f |
| 22:41.35 | Denlud | @micechal the script isnt working anymore |
| 22:41.49 | Denlud | i pressed strg+c |
| 22:42.03 | balleroctopus | Denlud: okay, what's happening now? |
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| 22:42.14 | Linnak | Equa http://i.imgur.com/H8JG3G9.png |
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| 22:42.46 | allizom | Linnak: Are you in a VM? |
| 22:42.51 | Linnak | yes |
| 22:43.18 | Denlud | The output is really long: |
| 22:43.55 | Denlud | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.55 | balleroctopus | wait don't paste it! |
| 22:44.09 | balleroctopus | woah wat |
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| 22:44.16 | Denlud | i can t copy that by myself |
| 22:44.26 | Denlud | i have no internet on my server |
| 22:44.58 | Denlud | I dont want to copy that all |
| 22:44.59 | micechal_ | that's some nice server you've got there |
| 22:45.11 | Denlud | that is not mine |
| 22:46.16 | Denlud | I will start the Script again and go sleeping. My work is done. |
| 22:46.24 | balleroctopus | Okay man, you have a good night |
| 22:46.35 | balleroctopus | Ludmila |
| 22:47.19 | Equa | Linnak: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 22:47.41 | Denlud | I love you guys. I will give it back to you some day. |
| 22:47.53 | Denlud | Have a good night all. |
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| 22:48.07 | balleroctopus | ayy lmao |
| 22:48.14 | balleroctopus | least we can do brother :) |
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| 22:48.30 | balleroctopus | alright, FedEx just got here, so my night is ending as well! |
| 22:49.24 | micechal_ | Denlud, balleroctopus good nite guys |
| 22:50.30 | Linnak | Equa http://i.imgur.com/Vg1IRyh.png |
| 22:50.58 | Equa | Linnak: choose /dev/sda1 |
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| 22:51.23 | Linnak | Equa http://i.imgur.com/qrxZl3E.png |
| 22:52.34 | Equa | Linnak: reinstall grub boot loader |
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| 22:53.05 | Linnak | where to install? |
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| 22:53.25 | Equa | Linnak: you have only one hard driver /dev/sda correct? |
| 22:53.30 | Linnak | Equa http://i.imgur.com/FOkPssv.png |
| 22:53.31 | Equa | *drive |
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| 22:53.33 | Linnak | yes |
| 22:53.39 | Linnak | so there? |
| 22:53.43 | Equa | Linnak: yes |
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| 22:54.29 | Linnak | Equa done |
| 22:54.46 | Equa | Linnak: reboot the system and see if you can get pass the vm bios warning. |
| 22:56.28 | Linnak | I have exactly the same problem |
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| 22:57.11 | allizom | Linnak: people seem to have solved with this: https://web.archive.org/web/20120530095424/http://finster.co.uk/2010/11/16/virtualbox-piix4_smbus-error |
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| 22:58.47 | Linnak | allizom Thank you but this wasn't a problem for me. I will fix it as well, but all my VM-s starts with that error, and then boots properly |
| 22:59.02 | Linnak | just this one with gnome and without a root password |
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| 22:59.14 | Linnak | doesn't start |
| 22:59.19 | Equa | Linnak: try that solution. i'll be back in a bit to check on you. |
| 22:59.32 | Linnak | i reinstall it with root password |
| 22:59.37 | Equa | Linnak: boot into rescue mode and follow that instruction |
| 22:59.53 | Linnak | i just don't understan why is the function without root password |
| 22:59.59 | Linnak | ok |
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| 23:04.18 | Linnak | whai if blacklist.conf is empty? |
| 23:05.06 | allizom | just write: blacklist i2c_piix4 |
| 23:05.11 | allizom | then save |
| 23:05.14 | Jikan | Hi. Jessie/awesome user here. How do I change the default display font? |
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| 23:06.15 | Linnak | http://i.imgur.com/gakwpXr.png |
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| 23:09.04 | Linnak | i have to go to bed now |
| 23:09.11 | Linnak | thanks foe everything |
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| 23:09.15 | Linnak | bye |
| 23:09.17 | allizom | Linnak: echo "blacklist i2c_piix4" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
| 23:09.37 | Linnak | sorry i switched off VM |
| 23:09.42 | allizom | ah ok |
| 23:09.48 | Linnak | godd night |
| 23:09.51 | Linnak | good |
| 23:10.04 | allizom | bye |
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| 23:28.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there any work being done to support the hardware on Intel Compute Stick? |
| 23:29.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | (especially WiFi) |
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| 23:32.50 | abrotman | seemslike more of a kernel question |
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| 23:36.27 | Eduard_Munteanu | abrotman, there's an out of tree driver, it would be nice to have it packaged for the Debian kernel |
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| 23:36.57 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | hi |
| 23:37.02 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | i forget the commad |
| 23:37.14 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | of Permission Denied |
| 23:38.41 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | PLEASE I NEED Help fast |
| 23:38.49 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | just forget the cmd lel |
| 23:39.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | IForgetTHECOMMAN, that's an error, not a command, what do you want to do? |
| 23:39.34 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | nvm now i found it |
| 23:39.50 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | there is the commandls -al executable |
| 23:39.58 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | ls -al |
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| 23:43.26 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | okay i need help |
| 23:43.35 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | i forget how to give the permission |
| 23:43.46 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | when i get Permission Denied on .32 |
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| 23:44.58 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | ? |
| 23:44.58 | thorrr | file permissions? |
| 23:45.12 | azmodeus | chmod? |
| 23:45.16 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | yes |
| 23:45.24 | thorrr | chmod and/or chown |
| 23:45.43 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | bash: /home/midou-king/Downloads/godot_x11-1.1stable.32: Permission denied |
| 23:45.46 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | srry |
| 23:45.55 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | lagged |
| 23:46.10 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | so? |
| 23:46.17 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | what the command |
| 23:46.23 | thorrr | 4=read 2=write 1=execute |
| 23:46.28 | thorrr | look it up |
| 23:46.46 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | i forget how to chmod |
| 23:46.57 | Equa | IForgetTHECOMMAN: are you trying to make it excutable? |
| 23:47.03 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | Equa |
| 23:47.12 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | i am DebianJessieUser |
| 23:47.21 | thorrr | chmod +x filename |
| 23:47.25 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | yea |
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| 23:47.52 | IForgetTHECOMMAN | thanks |
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