| 00:00.10 | roundcirle | do i have to change the apt sources (afaik i dont have to, but better be sure) |
| 00:00.14 | roundcirle | :) |
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| 00:07.02 | iWaldo_ | i'm rebuilding the 3.16 kernel in jessie and i'm trying to enable 3 options (all supposedly under "Bus options (PCI etc.)": 1) "Support for DMA Remapping Devices", 2) "Enable DMA Remapping Devices", and 3) "PCI Stub driver". I found "PCI Stub driver" and changed it from a module to enabled, but 1 and 2 aren't found in the "Bus Options (PCI etc.)" menu. Any advice? |
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| 00:13.20 | iWaldo_ | although |
| 00:13.22 | iWaldo_ | now that i look |
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| 00:14.49 | iWaldo_ | i already get "AMD-Vi: Using passthrough domain for device 0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 which are both of the video cards that i'd like to pass through in the first place. |
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| 00:15.11 | iWaldo_ | maybe i don't even have to rebuild |
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| 00:17.42 | ctmjr | iWaldo_: what are you trying to do vga pass through with kvm? |
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| 00:37.57 | kWO901 | my wireless interface turns off at random (very rarely) |
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| 00:38.04 | kWO901 | why |
| 00:41.00 | shay_shay | anyone ever build kfreebsd on debian kfreebsd? |
| 00:41.05 | shay_shay | i mean, the kernel |
| 00:41.15 | shay_shay | it seems like I need bsd make in order to do it |
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| 00:48.29 | iWaldo_ | ctmjr: primary- create a VM that can run openCL. secondary - create a windows guest that can game if any gamers visit |
| 00:49.11 | iWaldo_ | also i want to keep the server host machine headless, and it seems equally tricky to set up a VM with X for openCL and to set up headless AMD drivers at the moment |
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| 00:56.33 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I'm trying to roll back from a system installation that put a custom version of tar on my system. I force-removed tar but now see that dpkg depends on it to install the Debian original tar package. How can I achieve this reinstallation? Boot to rescue mode and install it there? |
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| 00:58.34 | centrx | Pegasus_RPG, easiest thing might be to just put a tar binary in /bin/tar |
| 00:58.48 | centrx | extract it from the Debian package |
| 00:59.03 | centrx | Then install the package normally |
| 00:59.12 | Pegasus_RPG | ok cool thanks centrx |
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| 01:04.43 | zykotick9 | shay_shay: fyi there is a #debian-kbsd on oftc, good luck. /me knows nothin' about kbsd |
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| 01:07.40 | nmschulte | Does there exist a way to defer the loading of a PCI device driver (or any driver) to the user via GUI? |
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| 01:27.42 | sslb | I'm going to install debian after I just installed Windows. Can I use debian installer to partition the single hard drive or should I use a tool in windows? |
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| 01:28.53 | mutante | sslb: should be possible to do the partioning in the Debian installer |
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| 01:29.33 | sslb | mutante, okay thanks. |
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| 01:39.37 | tapout | with libjson-maybexs-perl, why would SID have it, wheezy nope, jessie yes.. why skip wheezy? |
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| 01:43.16 | pantato | I'm trying to etherwake my server upon powering up a client. The only puzzle is I need to put a delay on the mounting of the samba shares of said server or else it'll fail. Any ideas? |
| 01:43.57 | centrx | tapout, wheezy is a previously released version of Debian |
| 01:44.18 | centrx | tapout, new software that is present in unstable or testing is not added to the stable release until the next major release |
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| 01:47.02 | mutante | wants something like webalizer for mbox files. throw mbox mailboxes at it and have it generate stats for number of senders, country of origin etc |
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| 01:48.40 | sslb | I'm partitioning the disk that windows is installed on (has 300gb unallocated) but in the debian graphical installer I don't see any partitions. It only shows the whole disk. Any reason why? |
| 01:48.58 | corndog | Is there a software package to maintain a reverse ssh tunnel indefinitely ? |
| 01:49.26 | corndog | I had a script that used 'wait' but it never seems to work, not sure why this time, but just came all the way home and can't ssh into my box at work |
| 01:49.45 | centrx | ah because you can't host a server |
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| 01:57.00 | sslb | I'm doing a manual install using the graphical installer. How do I setup an encrypted system using the 300gb of unallocated space? |
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| 01:57.19 | sslb | I am using 1gb for swap and the rest for the encrypted debian install |
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| 01:58.24 | sslb | I also want to use LVM. I don't know whether I should setup the 299gb as LVM then configure that or if I should set it up as a physical block for encryption then configure it. |
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| 01:59.39 | zykotick9 | sslb: i don't use the graphical install, so don't know, but the regular text d-i offers Encrypted LVM as an option during partitioning. good luck. |
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| 02:00.08 | aspect | I have both iceweasel and firefox installed (debian 8.0), with /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser pointing at /usr/bin/firefox. When I invoke x-www-browser, it starts iceweasel. I'm guessing firefox is doing something horrible in examining argv[0], but don't know how fix it. Help? |
| 02:00.49 | sslb | zykotick9: that is available as well, but it only shows use entire disk and setup encrypted LVM - I don't want to use the entire disk |
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| 02:03.36 | mutante | aspect: does 'update-alternatives --get-selections' really show it as firefox? |
| 02:03.49 | zykotick9 | sslb: ahhh... /me understands issue now... sorry i have nothin' to suggest. good luck! |
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| 02:04.29 | sslb | zykotick9: thanks anyways! :) |
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| 02:05.37 | mutante | aspect: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ? |
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| 02:07.06 | aspect | mutante: yes on both counts, and the symlink is to /usr/bin/firefox. It must be hitting the correct executable, which is why I'm disturbed :) |
| 02:08.34 | aspect | creating a random symlink to /usr/bin/firefox and invoking it via that has the same effect: iceweasel starts |
| 02:08.36 | zykotick9 | remembers setting a new "alternative" as being more complicated then just a symlink... but it's been a while... further, installing firefox seems redundant and a PITA imo... |
| 02:09.13 | aspect | .. even if that new symlink's basename is firefox |
| 02:10.41 | kWO901 | my wireless interface turns off at random (very rarely) why?? |
| 02:11.18 | aspect | at this point the best solution seems to be creating a pseudo-package with a shell script that execs firefox, then pointing alternatives at that. Which is horrible. |
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| 02:15.37 | aspect | oh crap, /usr/bin/firefox is the culprit .. it's a shell script which invokes $0.real (if it exists), and falls back on iceweasel |
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| 02:16.41 | aspect | a bit of $(readlink $0) will fix that, then I can figure out where to send the patch .. thanks for listening :) |
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| 02:23.58 | donofrio | paste.debian.net/166890 - anyone want to help me get audio and 3d working on this box (it's netinstalled jessie) fully updated |
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| 02:26.47 | centrx | donofrio, It seems like you already have 3D because: GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI nv18 GLX Version: 1.2 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes |
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| 02:27.21 | donofrio | humm.....xbmc didn't want to start....so figured it was not running |
| 02:27.42 | abrotman | wonders why xbmc would need 3d acceleration |
| 02:28.34 | donofrio | I dunno checking xbmc.log now, would love to have sound working, this is imac (lampshade) |
| 02:31.40 | pengown | sound on my alienware gave me a ton of issues for a while and i just broke it more trying to fix it |
| 02:31.41 | donofrio | paste.debian.net/166891 |
| 02:32.09 | pengown | turned out i had to shutdown (runlevel 0) not runlevel 6 to fix the alsa drivers failing |
| 02:32.17 | pengown | i now know as it does it from time to time |
| 02:33.28 | pengown | i doubt i know how to fix it for an imac but i dont suggest trying to add tons and tons of kernel modules to fix it xD |
| 02:33.42 | pengown | which is what i did and i just ended up with a ton of errors when i booted |
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| 02:45.47 | srg | What's the best/recommended way to encrypt a non-system drive? LUKS/cryptsetup? |
| 02:46.15 | greggory | LUKS i think is whats currently recommended, however i may be wrong |
| 02:46.16 | pengown | thats what i use |
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| 02:53.45 | dgriffi | could someone who knows pthreads take a look at http://pastebin.com/KA0JUGjF and tell me what I'm doing wrong with line 182? |
| 02:54.54 | buu | using threads |
| 02:55.16 | buu | dgriffi: Isn't this a ##c question |
| 02:55.55 | dgriffi | whoops.. wrong channel |
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| 03:07.43 | zRecursive | If the NIC plugged into PCI slot cannot be detected by OS, then the NIC is bad ? |
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| 03:27.21 | sslb | well I got the LVM with encryption setup - now I can't boot into debian because of a nouveau error -_- |
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| 04:01.48 | nmschulte | It seems that my SSD likely has a 1536 K erase block size (1024 + 512). I've aligned all of my partitions to 1 M (1024 K), as the tools do. Am I correct that as long as I've also aligned to 3 M boundaries, then I should be good for both 1024 K erase blocks size and 1536 K erase block sizes? |
| 04:02.17 | nmschulte | As well, I feel the tools should be updated to account for this. Perhaps even by switching to 3 M alignment rather than 1 M alignment... |
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| 04:11.17 | nmschulte | Hmm... it seems like the point is moot: the odds of seeing "speedup" from "alignment" here (or "slowdown" from "misalignment") are very slim: only writes at the ends of partitions will potentially incurr this cost, and in that case it's only a loss if the write is larger than the erase block size to begin with. |
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| 04:11.46 | nmschulte | This is due to the fact that the file system is likely using 4K blocks anyway. |
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| 04:38.30 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Where would I look up which video bards take which drivers? Hubby wants to install a GeForce 8400GS DDR3 512MB PCI in this computer. So just in case plug and play doesn't kick in, which driver would it take? |
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| 05:56.30 | kWO901 | wireless interface turns off and on at random times (very rarely), sometimes even remains off. what could it be? |
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| 05:57.27 | centurion18 | maybve tor channel? |
| 05:57.29 | bolt | kWO901: /var/log |
| 05:58.39 | kWO901 | bolt: lots of stuff in there. |
| 05:59.54 | kWO901 | bolt: http://paste.debian.net/166898/ |
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| 06:00.26 | cy5 | How to block all incoming request from wifi |
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| 06:04.11 | kWO901 | bolt: |
| 06:05.47 | ChrisH | cy5: ifconfig down? |
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| 06:07.18 | bolt | kWO901: you need to look through kern.log, messages, and possibly others, for the time when your problems occurred |
| 06:07.22 | cy5 | chrish: you mean my ifconfig must be down |
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| 06:08.06 | bolt | cy5: he's being sarcastic. you probably want a firewall. check out something like shorewall |
| 06:08.25 | bolt | cy5: or just don't run your services on that interface in the first place |
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| 06:12.11 | cy5 | bolt:when i try this command iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s 192.168.0.102 -j DROP this command blocks ipuser from pinging but still he can use my wifi |
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| 06:17.46 | cy5 | Iam trying to block incoming request form wifi so i'm blocking wifi interface but it doesn't work iptables -A INPUT -i wlan0 -j DROP |
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| 06:23.48 | ChrisH | cy5: I still did not get what is your goal? remove services listening from wlan/wifi interface is step one. Then find out which services are still listening like netstat -an | grep LISTEN |
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| 06:25.50 | themill | tapout: sure. that's the default |
| 06:26.13 | cy5 | chrish:thanks for reply how to remove all service listening from wlan0 interface |
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| 06:29.31 | ChrisH | cy5: depends on the service. most allow to specify the listening interface... but still why do you want to do that? |
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| 06:31.28 | cy5 | actually we are working on wifi captive portal and we are stuck on iptables routing |
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| 06:33.53 | cy5 | chrish: A captive portal is a special web page that is shown before using the Internet normally. |
| 06:34.44 | cy5 | chrish: what we have tried to route http://pastebin.com/PYucn3uF |
| 06:35.39 | ChrisH | cy5: I see... never heard that term before. So you want a tranparent proxy forcing the users through a proxy and eg. without cookie you will redirect then to your webserver first. |
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| 07:29.50 | kWO901 | can anyone see why my wireless interface randomly turns off at times ? http://paste.debian.net/166902/ |
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| 07:48.01 | tapout | i have a large file, and i want to goto offset but the file won't open in vim.. any ideas? |
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| 07:49.43 | tapout | ahh right, i forgot about those |
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| 07:55.55 | emash | hello everyone! i just installed testing in vm, without any DE. When i try to install mate-desktop-enviroment via apt-get i get 'unable to locate package' |
| 07:56.39 | Knaldgas | Trying to set up Jessie bluetooth so I can connect via IP to an Lego EV3 device. So far I've managed to pair the devices, and most of the guides I found relate to making an ethernet-bridge, but I would really just like to connect from the PC to the device. |
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| 07:56.55 | themill | emash: sounds like you need to fix your sources.list -- /msg dpkg jessie sources.list |
| 07:57.09 | emash | ty |
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| 07:59.07 | Knaldgas | I've tried http://www.redtreerobotics.com/ip-over-bluetooth-with-linux/ which creates a bridge, but the python test-script fails claiming that the DefaultAdapter method does not exist. |
| 07:59.36 | Knaldgas | "qdbus --system org.bluez" does not present any Manager, so I guess that's why, or? |
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| 08:01.28 | emash | i have "ftp.se.debian.org" in them, is it okay? |
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| 08:02.51 | themill | should be fine |
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| 08:08.13 | Knaldgas | Hmm, on second thoughts, I do need it bridged... |
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| 08:09.05 | julius_- | update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/bin/java" 1 <- do i need to relog after this command? |
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| 08:11.16 | emash | still no luck in installing mate-desktop, sources seem to be fine, and when i launch aptitude there is no mate in the list of not installed |
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| 08:13.06 | marens | julius_-: no, just set the preferred java runtime with "update-alternatives --config java" and check via "java -version" |
| 08:13.31 | themill | dpkg: tell emash about bat |
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| 08:25.50 | emash | themill i don't know how to select text and copy it in command line interface :,( |
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| 08:27.39 | Knaldgas | Yes! - Found the solution here: http://blog.fraggod.net/2015/03/28/bluetooth-pan-network-setup-with-bluez-5x.html |
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| 08:30.03 | Aldaron | Hiya. Just tried to install Jessie RC2, but get grub rescue mode. "ls (hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub" lists only unicode.pf2 and grub.cfg. The whole i386-pc/ dir seems to be missing. Any ideas where to find this dir & whether I should report a bug somewhere? |
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| 08:46.29 | debn00b | i have a live install of debian and cant boot from it for some reason |
| 08:46.57 | debn00b | i get errors about Id "n" respawning too quickly disable for 5 minutes |
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| 08:47.49 | iaj | hi there, when I have a global logrotate setting in my config file which says, rotate 4, and then I specify a configuration for a file afterwards that says, size 500k for that file - which one is gonna be used? I want the file not to be rotated before it gets 500k in size |
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| 08:48.59 | emash | my problem is solved, thanks everyone |
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| 08:51.05 | debn00b | "no more processes left in this runlevel"? |
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| 08:57.01 | fraff | iaj: no idea but you can figure out with logrotate --debug |
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| 09:30.59 | cy5 | my network layout is this gateway---(wlan0)pi(eth0)----client i want to block all my wifi user from accessing internet I tried cmd but its not working iptables -A FORWARD -o wlan0 -j DROP |
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| 09:35.34 | ChrisH | cy5: did you google for transparent proxy? all restriction shoyuld be applied on our ptoxy afterwrds |
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| 09:39.08 | cy5 | chrish: yeah i did but didn't help |
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| 09:40.44 | cy5 | this is my network layout gateway---(wlan0)pi(eth0)----client |
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| 09:44.27 | Iridos | and from what you draw there your network layout doesn't get clear at all |
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| 09:52.09 | vvuja | cy5, and on which interface on pi ends up wlan0 |
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| 09:52.26 | vvuja | if you say you have wlan0 - pi - eth0 --- client |
| 09:52.44 | vvuja | then I guess that on pi you have also wlan0 interface |
| 09:52.56 | vvuja | to connect wi-fi to wi-fi |
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| 09:53.26 | vvuja | and then traffic goes to eth0 and later on to client |
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| 09:56.13 | vvuja | cy5, are you there? |
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| 09:57.01 | cy5 | yes |
| 09:57.14 | vvuja | cy5 that pi have wlan0 and eth0 |
| 09:57.35 | vvuja | so you have wi-fi clients connecting to PI over wlan0 |
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| 09:58.27 | vvuja | and you want to disable wi-fi connections on pi |
| 09:58.29 | vvuja | right? |
| 09:58.38 | cy5 | i'm sorry but my i'm not good at drawing layout i'll just describe my layout internet is coming from lan to pi and pi has created hotspot so how should be layout? |
| 09:58.47 | ChrisH | I still do not understand where the proxy is located, how to the wifi-clients connect and what the PI is used for as the gateway should handle the transpatrent proxy stuff. |
| 09:59.06 | vvuja | cy5 if it goes this way |
| 09:59.20 | vvuja | example 1. - PI have wlan0 and eth0 interfaces |
| 09:59.27 | vvuja | which means wi-fi and ethernet |
| 09:59.32 | cy5 | i want to redirect my wifi user to server page or specific ip |
| 09:59.44 | ChrisH | (nomading client) --wifi--- (pi-wlan0) proxy (pi-eth0) -- LAN -- Internetgateway |
| 10:00.07 | vvuja | that is simple cy5 |
| 10:00.43 | cy5 | how it's done i'm hitting bushes from 2 months |
| 10:00.50 | vvuja | make in script that brings up wi-fi connection to any wifi user that he uses defined default gateway |
| 10:00.55 | vvuja | then make eth0 alias |
| 10:01.06 | vvuja | ifconfig eth0:1 <ip_addr> <netmask> up |
| 10:01.20 | vvuja | configure that as default gateway for your wi-fi user |
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| 10:01.35 | vvuja | and on that IP address on alias of interfce configure that it listens on specific port |
| 10:01.45 | vvuja | when he opens browser |
| 10:01.57 | vvuja | for that to be his homepage |
| 10:02.07 | vvuja | by setting up automatic proxy |
| 10:02.17 | vvuja | you can go this way |
| 10:02.37 | vvuja | if user does not know how to turn off automatic proxy then you are fine |
| 10:02.48 | vvuja | and it is configured by proxy.pac file in /var/www/html |
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| 10:02.53 | vvuja | DocumentRoot of your website |
| 10:03.09 | vvuja | then browser will pickup configuration and setup homepage |
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| 10:03.23 | vvuja | that homepage is what you want to serve to your wi-fi users |
| 10:03.24 | vvuja | right? |
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| 10:04.48 | cy5 | thanks for reply but i'm novice can you help me more on this topic like link for tutorial or Paste bin example |
| 10:05.10 | vvuja | also if you want more strict restriction you can always use iptables |
| 10:05.20 | vvuja | and use port redirection |
| 10:05.23 | cy5 | vvuja: thanks for reply but i'm novice can you help me more on this topic like link for tutorial or Paste bin example |
| 10:05.32 | vvuja | well I don't have it |
| 10:05.44 | vvuja | I can not write you set of commands that you actuallly do |
| 10:05.50 | vvuja | you need to tweak around a little bit |
| 10:05.51 | cy5 | yeah i'm doing through port direction but its not working |
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| 10:05.58 | vvuja | ok |
| 10:06.49 | cy5 | here's what i tried for port http://pastebin.com/PYucn3uF |
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| 10:08.19 | vvuja | this is correct |
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| 10:08.31 | vvuja | although you don't need part in FORWARD chain |
| 10:08.37 | vvuja | only in nat table |
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| 10:08.47 | vvuja | since it will go to INPUT chain |
| 10:08.59 | vvuja | and DNAT it to defined IP and port |
| 10:09.13 | vvuja | each attempt to port 80 and port 443 |
| 10:09.17 | cy5 | i think my wlan0 is not configured |
| 10:09.23 | vvuja | ok |
| 10:09.43 | vvuja | this is correct setting of iptables |
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| 10:10.01 | cy5 | ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured |
| 10:10.03 | vvuja | you just need to accept packets on interface and see if they will be forwarded to your LAN network IP |
| 10:10.18 | vvuja | cy5 configure wlan0 |
| 10:10.27 | vvuja | that is somehow easy part |
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| 10:11.09 | cy5 | can you help me please |
| 10:12.00 | vvuja | well configuring of wlan0 needs more then just input of IP addr and gateway |
| 10:12.06 | vvuja | you need to configure DHCP server |
| 10:12.18 | vvuja | and to put wlan0 on IP which will be the IP of DHCP server |
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| 10:12.50 | vvuja | and every wi-fi client will get defined IP from set of IPs from that DHCP server |
| 10:13.01 | vvuja | and it will be able to communicate |
| 10:13.03 | cy5 | i'm using static ipaddress for raspberry pi so do i need dhcp server |
| 10:13.35 | vvuja | which later means that connection on port 80 on every web address will be forwarded to your LAN network IP address |
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| 10:13.46 | vvuja | make sure it is from same network as your DHCP sets of IP |
| 10:13.48 | vvuja | yes you need DHCP |
| 10:14.00 | vvuja | you can not have wlan0 with static IP addrs |
| 10:14.06 | vvuja | only if you plan to have only one client |
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| 10:14.18 | vvuja | or you will set up manually wi-fi on each client |
| 10:14.22 | vvuja | which is not the way it is done |
| 10:14.36 | vvuja | wi-fi connects to hotspot and gets all the settings from there |
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| 10:14.42 | vvuja | no need to configure client also |
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| 10:20.29 | cy5 | vvuja: thanks for elp we will configure wlan0 and if any doubts we will post here |
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| 10:20.38 | cy5 | sorry help |
| 10:21.15 | vvuja | ok cy5 |
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| 11:12.26 | shingouz | oskie: not that i know of. of course, if you want to actually run the new kernel, you need to reboot on it |
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| 11:17.04 | ccat | . |
| 11:17.05 | ccat | q: help please -- apt-get broke chrome |
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| 11:18.57 | babilen | ccat: chrome isn't it Debian and how exactly did apt-get break it? |
| 11:19.49 | ccat | quote: <Brun0L3z> running chrome on Linux debian wheezy for 2 years no issues, last night i did an apt-get dist-upgrade and once i started PC this morning chrome won't start, no error message given just the ticking 'cursor' |
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| 11:20.15 | Brun0L3z | hwo do I downgrade google chrome on debian wheezy? |
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| 11:20.53 | future28 | Hi, how can I use iw to connect to a wireless router once off? Just so I can install packages |
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| 11:21.17 | babilen | Brun0L3z: You could install an older package manually with "dpkg -i /path/to/the/package.deb" and put it on hold. You might find it in /var/cache/apt/archives/. |
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| 11:22.23 | Brun0L3z | babilen: Thanks for that, let me check both ways. just saying: i have this issue because i upgraded debian with apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 11:23.15 | babilen | Brun0L3z: Those are issues in *Google's* chrome packages that have nothing to do with Debian. Debian ships chromium not chrome. |
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| 11:24.20 | Brun0L3z | babilen: Thanks for that, what really is the difference between chrome and chromium, i can't seem to figure it out - Just asking |
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| 11:24.44 | babilen | dpkg: chromium |
| 11:24.45 | dpkg | Chromium is an open source web browser produced by Google, based on WebKit. Google Chrome is based on Chromium. https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium http://www.chromium.org/Home #chromium-support on irc.freenode.net. For the game formerly known as Chromium, ask me about <chromium-bsu>. |
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| 11:25.33 | converge | can I upload testing(hello world) packages to mentors.debian.net ? |
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| 11:26.40 | babilen | converge: I'd recommend to ask anything related to mentors in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) |
| 11:26.59 | babilen | Ah, you cross-posted |
| 11:27.04 | babilen | Just be patient |
| 11:27.22 | converge | yes.. sometimes it takes long time |
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| 11:28.19 | babilen | And you can upload whatever you want, but don't expect it to be sponsored |
| 11:28.46 | babilen | Which kind of defeats the purpose |
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| 11:29.10 | converge | babilen: nice, I just need to upload it for my mentor be able to check it |
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| 11:29.58 | babilen | Okay, I won't ask why somebody would want to sponsor a hello world program ... |
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| 11:30.40 | babilen | (or ist that simply part of some sort of training exercise?) |
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| 11:32.05 | converge | babilen: it's an exercise |
| 11:32.35 | babilen | have fun then :) |
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| 11:40.19 | Brun0L3z | babilen: I want to say THANK YOU, all I did was cd into var/cache/apt.. installed previous version with dpkg and all works perfectly now. Many Thanks. |
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| 11:41.12 | babilen | Brun0L3z: You are welcome. Don't forget to put that package on hold so that it won't be upgraded in the future. Once you want to actually upgrade you have to unhold it though. |
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| 11:42.23 | Brun0L3z | babilen: I am grateful. Thanks again. I will stay around to try and help other too. |
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| 11:48.18 | bazhang | babilen, is 'hold' equivalent to 'pinning' |
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| 11:51.11 | Hercules | Hello, can anyone in India provide a free disc of debian to me ? |
| 11:51.23 | Hercules | I can't download one, cause the ugly speed |
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| 11:51.41 | Disconsented | your best bet will be finding someone who can download it |
| 11:51.49 | Disconsented | Or put up with the slow speed |
| 11:52.24 | bazhang | find an india lug |
| 11:52.48 | Hercules | There is none here. |
| 11:52.57 | bazhang | there are many |
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| 11:53.10 | Hercules | There is but far away |
| 11:53.16 | bazhang | I could find one in less than five minutes |
| 11:53.31 | Hercules | I am 14, I can't travel alone. |
| 11:53.36 | Hercules | My parents won't allow |
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| 11:54.06 | bazhang | buy a linux magazine, they usually have some |
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| 11:54.40 | Hercules | I buyed one but there wasn't a disc |
| 11:54.41 | bazhang | the net install of debian is tiny |
| 11:55.04 | SPF | how slow is slow? |
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| 11:55.37 | Hercules | 4 kbps |
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| 11:56.04 | bazhang | did you want someone to actually dccyou a full debian disc |
| 11:56.38 | micalm | bazhang: I think he means a physical CD |
| 11:56.51 | bazhang | by mail? |
| 11:57.00 | Hercules | yh |
| 11:57.13 | SPF | by flying usb pigeon? |
| 11:57.21 | bazhang | go to a public library, bring a usb stick |
| 11:57.31 | micalm | I think he already is using IP over Avian Carriers. ;P |
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| 11:57.33 | bazhang | india has libraries I bet |
| 11:57.55 | lo0m | or school PC lab .. there has to be some place with better conn |
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| 11:58.20 | Hercules | School won't allow me to download, it is setup with monitoring system. |
| 11:58.22 | bazhang | a loco/lug is the best bet |
| 11:58.42 | Hercules | bazhang: away from my house, I live in industrial area cause of my fathers job. |
| 11:58.43 | bazhang | whats the closest major city |
| 11:58.44 | oskie | get loco at a lug |
| 11:58.55 | Hercules | I am in Major City |
| 11:59.04 | bazhang | which one |
| 11:59.10 | SPF | how many residents? |
| 11:59.24 | Hercules | more than 30 families |
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| 11:59.33 | bazhang | what |
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| 12:00.02 | bazhang | mumbai? delhi? what |
| 12:00.40 | Hercules | Its Lucknow |
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| 12:00.54 | bazhang | !lug |
| 12:00.54 | dpkg | [lug] Linux User Group. They are superb for getting free, in-person help for Linux installation and other issues. There is one in every large city, and some in smaller places too. Use Google to search for: London Linux User Group or New York Linux User Group or some such. Or, ask your local college's Computer Science department if there is a computer club or Linux club. Or ask us. http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups |
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| 12:02.27 | nstr | www.meetup.com/Lucknow-learners |
| 12:02.56 | nstr | http://wikiwikiweb.de/LugsList |
| 12:03.01 | lo0m | http://www.meetup.com/Lucknow-learners/members/ -> some have FB account.. try them |
| 12:03.14 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.45 | bazhang | many of them can score you that cd/usb |
| 12:03.51 | Hercules | oh |
| 12:03.56 | bazhang | yeah |
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| 12:15.59 | elcheckito | can i put <comments> in an apt source list at all? |
| 12:16.39 | Cullz | any line starting with #, it will skip |
| 12:16.41 | paradigm | "#" is the comment character - start a line with that and the rest is ignored, put whatever you want there |
| 12:17.07 | elcheckito | paradigm: perfect. it works. thank you! |
| 12:17.13 | paradigm | happy to help |
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| 12:17.20 | elcheckito | i was trying with /* my comment */ :) |
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| 12:23.34 | blonkel | hey guys, i got some trouble: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tggtemyddvaksk4/bug.PNG?dl=0 sda,sdb,sdc are "Intel SSDSC2BB30" SSDs |
| 12:23.41 | blonkel | any idears why the latency is that crazy high? |
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| 12:25.10 | blonkel | got 2 servers of this, both of them having the same issue.. |
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| 12:31.57 | valdyn | blonkel: what filesystem is it? |
| 12:32.41 | blonkel | valdyn ext4 |
| 12:32.55 | valdyn | blonkel: you need to reproduce this, not just show us that graph |
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| 12:33.39 | blonkel | valdyn well i tried but not that easy :) |
| 12:33.49 | blonkel | i didnt yet digged into the munin plugin code |
| 12:34.09 | blonkel | i tried "ioping" which seems so far normal ~ 0.2ms |
| 12:34.24 | blonkel | still high but not that high like the graph is.. |
| 12:35.14 | valdyn | blonkel: is there an actual problem or just that graph? |
| 12:35.41 | valdyn | http://bencane.com/2012/08/06/troubleshooting-high-io-wait-in-linux/ |
| 12:35.48 | blonkel | well, i would like to port my project on this servers, but as long as this graph is that strange im thinking twice over it |
| 12:36.11 | blonkel | since those two servers are new ones, maybe theres some faulty hardware or something? |
| 12:36.15 | valdyn | blonkel: is that graph better on a different system? |
| 12:36.26 | valdyn | blonkel: (at the *same* load ?) |
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| 12:37.12 | blonkel | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0alp9t029jxzu7y/productive.png?dl=0 |
| 12:37.24 | blonkel | thats on the productive full load system currently |
| 12:37.44 | inthl | I am having a normal user account with say UID 10000 and GID 5000, and that user has a homedir. now when logging in the user is owner + group owner of his homedir, in my case I would like the user to be able to create/edit/remove files from within that folder, but NOT to be able to modify the folder itself, say its chmods. now that is possible by setting chattr +i, but then the user can not create or delete files from within tha |
| 12:37.44 | inthl | t folder (but he can still edit them). is there any way to forbid chmod'ding that folder by the user who is the owner of it? |
| 12:38.02 | valdyn | blonkel: also ssd? |
| 12:38.02 | blonkel | the graphs above are on system which are not under load (even bare metal servers!), the produtive system is virtualised |
| 12:38.21 | blonkel | valdyn yes both sda and sdb |
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| 12:39.24 | valdyn | blonkel: ok, anyway, see that link, at least I think this graph is not very useful without knowing what exactly is going on |
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| 12:41.03 | blonkel | valdyn thanks so far, but somehow this scares me to port the produtive system there which is maybe then overloaded ;) |
| 12:41.22 | valdyn | blonkel: of course |
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| 12:42.04 | valdyn | blonkel: i use unsafe caching on some vm disks where i can (because nothing important is written) and those vms are also faster than "real" systems |
| 12:42.24 | valdyn | blonkel: just meaning theres alot to consider.... |
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| 12:43.44 | blonkel | valdyn, well thanks for this hint but i switched over to docker since i realised that theres about 20% loss of performance with virtualisiation (at least in my write intensive enviroment) |
| 12:44.10 | valdyn | inthl: ls -ld /tmp (though i dont know if its really possible what you want withou acl use) |
| 12:44.11 | thabom | hi all, does anyone know where gnutls looks for CA certificates? (in order to prevent this: - Status: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate issuer is unknown.) |
| 12:44.34 | thabom | /etc/ssl/{certs,private} doesn't work |
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| 12:45.06 | valdyn | thabom: it can not use individual files in /etc/ssh/certs |
| 12:45.18 | valdyn | thabom: thats why update-ca-certificates creates the big one |
| 12:45.23 | inthl | valdyn, I do have grsecurity in use |
| 12:45.24 | thabom | aha |
| 12:45.41 | thabom | i also put my ca in ca-certs |
| 12:45.52 | thabom | didn't work either |
| 12:46.11 | thabom | *ca-certs.pem |
| 12:46.17 | richied | hey guys how do i get my bridging to work on debian jessie please help |
| 12:46.23 | valdyn | /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt |
| 12:46.52 | thabom | aha |
| 12:46.55 | valdyn | thabom: assuming you use wheezy or earlier of course, jessie onwards uses the non-ancient gnutls |
| 12:46.56 | thabom | i didn't see that one yet |
| 12:47.05 | thabom | ehm well i use jessie |
| 12:47.25 | thabom | so how about this non-ancient gnutls? |
| 12:47.29 | thabom | another location? |
| 12:47.34 | valdyn | thabom: then most probably gnutls is the new one, there may be a few programs left using the old one, i dont know |
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| 12:48.04 | thabom | i'm on version 3.3.8-6 |
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| 12:50.28 | teraflop | thabom: on wheezy you put the cert file ending in .crt into /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ then you run update-ca-certificates as root |
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| 12:51.55 | teraflop | thabom: also the cert must be in pem format i mean it must start with the BEGIN CERTIFICATE stuff |
| 12:51.56 | richied | hey how do you set up bridge using nmtui in debian jessie |
| 12:52.30 | thabom | teraflop: i see thanks |
| 12:53.30 | teraflop | thabom: if you have it in binary DER format then you must convert it with openssl x509 |
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| 12:55.32 | thabom | teraflop: i have it in pem, according to the update command my cert was added |
| 12:55.58 | thabom | and if i grep a line from my cert in ca-certificates.crt i see it is there |
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| 12:56.42 | teraflop | thabom: it picked a cert not ending in .crt? |
| 12:57.00 | teraflop | uhm curious, are sure it's all ok? |
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| 12:58.27 | teraflop | are you* |
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| 13:02.06 | thabom | but still: teraflop: hi srry was disturbed by co-workers |
| 13:02.34 | thabom | it's not ending in crt |
| 13:02.46 | thabom | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.22 | teraflop | thabom: it only works for me if the cert ends in .crt |
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| 13:04.58 | thabom | teraflop: changed it to crt, update-ca-certificates tells me; 1 added, 0 removed; done |
| 13:05.04 | thabom | but still no result.. |
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| 13:07.54 | thabom | i don't know yet how to solve this, i'll try my good old friend g00gle |
| 13:08.02 | teraflop | thabom: no clue then since you added a pem and a crt ones |
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| 13:08.42 | teraflop | thabom: may be removing the pem one and doing update-ca-certificates --fresh just guessing |
| 13:08.43 | thabom | teraflop: i actually moved the pem to crt |
| 13:08.53 | thabom | that is worth a try |
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| 13:12.42 | thabom | teraflop: no success yet, check http://pastebin.com/WCYb2vyn |
| 13:12.50 | thabom | maybe i forgot something obvious |
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| 13:14.47 | teraflop | thabom: who is the issuer of the cert? |
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| 13:15.45 | thabom | me |
| 13:15.56 | thabom | it's for my ldap server |
| 13:16.04 | teraflop | selfsigned? |
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| 13:17.19 | thabom | yup |
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| 13:18.05 | thabom | does it matter in this fasion? |
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| 13:20.56 | teraflop | then I think you have to create the CA the key sign the crt etc etc |
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| 13:22.17 | thabom | hmm i hoped the gnutls instruction from this howto would be sufficient; https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup |
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| 13:22.59 | teraflop | thabom: do you have those files? |
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| 13:23.53 | teraflop | i mean the ones in https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup#Configuring_LDAPS |
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| 13:24.40 | teraflop | thabom: also why do you bother? it's a selfsigned one, do you have errors? |
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| 13:26.52 | thabom | yes it affects ldapsearch |
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| 13:27.21 | thabom | client tools like ldasearch work only if i set TLS_REQCERT on allow |
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| 13:27.35 | thabom | that makes it vulnarable for MITM attacks |
| 13:27.43 | cy5_ | which is the simple to use GUI firewall for raspberry pi |
| 13:27.49 | teraflop | thabom: sometimes depending on the sw that deals with the cert i have to cat ca.pem >> mycert.crt && cat key.ssl >> mycert.crt then it works |
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| 13:28.57 | rlndvt | I'm trying to install skype but apt-get can't resolve my dependencies, this is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10826699/ anyone have any insight? |
| 13:29.24 | thabom | teraflop: hmm tht might be an option |
| 13:29.45 | thabom | but it means the private key is on the clients |
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| 13:30.14 | thabom | so if one is compromised it is a potential danger |
| 13:30.50 | teraflop | thabom: it has it logic since you had to create a CA and a key for emiting selfsigned certs but sincerely i do not deal with selfsigned certs |
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| 13:31.36 | shingouz | rlndvt: the dependencies are most probably screwed up by the mint repository. you have successfully created a frankendebian system |
| 13:31.36 | jelly | !tell rlndvt about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 13:31.50 | jelly | oh, mint |
| 13:31.57 | jelly | !mint |
| 13:31.57 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 13:32.12 | shingouz | most of it is debian according to the sources, but still.... |
| 13:32.17 | shingouz | groans |
| 13:32.28 | jelly | it's the least part that's most broken |
| 13:32.38 | cy5_ | which is the simple to use GUI firewall for raspberry pi? |
| 13:33.05 | teraflop | cy5_: since when it is raspberry pi a debian thing? |
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| 13:33.35 | valdyn | cy5_: what *else* is that pi going to be used for? |
| 13:33.56 | valdyn | cy5_: if the answer to that is "nothing", then use a dedicated distro -> google |
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| 13:34.39 | cy5_ | captive portal wifi |
| 13:34.42 | ntz | hello |
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| 13:35.06 | ntz | I guess that if etc/debian_version says 8.0, it's brand new debian stable, right ? |
| 13:35.16 | valdyn | ntz: no |
| 13:35.22 | ntz | o.O |
| 13:35.22 | valdyn | ntz: 8.0 is not stable |
| 13:35.26 | jelly | ntz: soon to be 8, but not yet |
| 13:35.30 | ntz | so is it testing ? |
| 13:35.36 | jelly | probably |
| 13:35.39 | teraflop | heh |
| 13:35.43 | ntz | pff |
| 13:35.44 | valdyn | ntz: for few more weeks |
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| 13:36.07 | jelly | ntz: the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list can provide more clues |
| 13:36.16 | jelly | !wwjr |
| 13:36.16 | dpkg | Debian 8 "Jessie" will release on 2015-04-25; ask me about <wheezy->jessie>. There's plenty of bugs still to squash so ask me about <how-can-i-help>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie pool 1>. See <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html> |
| 13:36.30 | ntz | thanjs |
| 13:36.33 | ntz | **kkkkk |
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| 13:37.16 | richied | hey guys i set up a bridge i made a bridge i assigned the proper slave thru nmtui but it doesnt work |
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| 13:38.14 | teraflop | richied: since youre talking about nmtui im pretty sure you are running jessie or sid |
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| 13:39.14 | thabom | richied: nmtui is Redhat/centos |
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| 13:39.29 | teraflop | thabom: nope is in network manager |
| 13:39.38 | thabom | teraflop: Oh my bad |
| 13:39.48 | richied | im running jessie |
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| 13:40.59 | msl09 | how do I setup my machine to be an ssh server |
| 13:41.01 | msl09 | ? |
| 13:41.05 | richied | im running jessie thabom |
| 13:41.46 | msl09 | I'm trying to follow this guide https://wiki.debian.org/SSH but when I try to connect to my own user from my own machine I get connection refused |
| 13:42.16 | ChrisH | msl09: you run ssh user@localhost ? |
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| 13:42.49 | msl09 | what the f |
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| 13:43.42 | msl09 | running ssh user@localhost works but ssh user@<my ip as shown by ifconfig> doesn't |
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| 13:44.27 | ChrisH | msl09: check netstat -an | grep :22 and search for the LISTEN line |
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| 13:44.35 | teraflop | thabom: hmm why don you get a free startcom account and get proper certificates that has a proper CA, is what I do for my personal certificates, including web servers email smime etc etc |
| 13:44.48 | queso | What the right way to install Oracle Java SDK on Debian? Or, otherwise, it seems I already have OpenJDK installed but JDK_HOME is not set, how do I find that? I'm trying to install a Python package that requires Java. |
| 13:45.16 | msl09 | nevermind I was typing the wrong ip |
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| 13:48.09 | teraflop | thabom: i mean startcom or whatever that provides the same functionality |
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| 13:49.17 | richied | hey quenten |
| 13:49.30 | thabom | teraflop: mm interesting |
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| 13:49.35 | thabom | i didn't know about it |
| 13:49.49 | thabom | is it something like letsencrypt? |
| 13:50.06 | teraflop | thabom: i never had a warn whatever os or client i use since I do this way |
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| 13:50.25 | teraflop | ios, android, iceweasel, firefox etc etc |
| 13:51.18 | teraflop | thabom: http://a.pomf.se/mksxff.png |
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| 13:52.14 | TomyWork | hi |
| 13:52.24 | qav | hi |
| 13:52.36 | TomyWork | i have a bunch of packages in a directory and generated a Packages.gz for them |
| 13:52.57 | TomyWork | then I moved them out and pointed apt to that directory |
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| 13:53.11 | TomyWork | now it complains about missing signatures for one of them but not the others |
| 13:53.56 | TomyWork | I can't spot any difference between the Packages.gz entries |
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| 13:54.22 | thabom | teraflop: many thanks :) |
| 13:54.37 | TomyWork | But yet i get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" |
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| 13:55.20 | teraflop | thabom: about startcom it's ok because it's for free but be careful generating the certs since the revocations because your fault are not for free |
| 13:55.26 | rlndvt | jelly: thanks |
| 13:55.27 | themill | TomyWork: it's the Release file that needs to be signed for apt to be happy. You can either sign the release file and teach apt to trust that key or you can suppress authentication for that local repo |
| 13:56.48 | TomyWork | themill there's no Release file |
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| 13:59.16 | TomyWork | it's just a directory with a Packages.gz file |
| 14:00.53 | themill | yes |
| 14:01.15 | TomyWork | themill and some work, some dont |
| 14:01.59 | TomyWork | themill although, i used to have a repo in my apt, which had the packages that work and that repo had a Release with proper signing |
| 14:02.06 | TomyWork | but i removed that repo more than a year ago |
| 14:02.34 | TomyWork | and the packages that work were built last month or something |
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| 14:02.57 | TomyWork | so there's no way apt ever knew those packages through that repo which i removed |
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| 14:04.01 | rlndvt | shingouz and jelly, can I 'purge' my system of things installed from that repository? Shouldn' t be anything all too important |
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| 14:11.22 | rlndvt | I've removed the linuxmint source, and I'm stuck with the installation of 'libasound2-plugins' |
| 14:12.11 | rlndvt | :i386* |
| 14:12.42 | kodapa | hmmm, ftp.ro.debian.org mirror 500s |
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| 14:17.31 | Roberth1990 | kodapa: pings fine here |
| 14:18.36 | kodapa | Roberth1990: Yeah, it answers ping. But the web server reponds with internal server error |
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| 14:24.23 | Pnoexz | hey, I need to set up this Debian machine to connect to a router using a static internal IP address instead of using one from the pool. I haven't had much success googling, could somebody point me in the right direction please? |
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| 14:25.03 | bolt | Pnoexz: set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:25.51 | bolt | Pnoexz: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 14:25.51 | jelly | Pnoexz: man 5 interfaces, also, zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 14:26.05 | bolt | Pnoexz: one wonders what you've been googling... |
| 14:26.32 | jelly | examples are probably a better starting point than the man page. |
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| 14:26.57 | Pnoexz | bolt: oh, it's not that I was in the wrong place, I just can't find the part I need in the documentation I'm reading |
| 14:28.10 | jelly | Pnoexz: the first simple "iface eth0 inet static" example or "Configuring the interface manually" on the wiki page |
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| 14:29.46 | Pnoexz | jelly, bolt: thank you very much, will read that |
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| 14:31.06 | CissWit | rlndvt: you should be able to find linux mint package with "aptitude search '?origin(linuxmint)'". You should purge them all, but it's hard to tell if you can *really* purge what was installed from that repository as its hard to know the interactions it might have had with other packages |
| 14:32.31 | rlndvt | CissWit: perfect thanks, let me see what I can find |
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| 14:33.17 | rlndvt | returns empty |
| 14:33.31 | CissWit | what was the repository you used ? |
| 14:33.51 | rlndvt | deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import |
| 14:34.34 | rlndvt | I wanted to get normal firefox installed, but then changed my mind and am using iceweasel and icedove |
| 14:34.45 | rlndvt | * instead |
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| 14:38.40 | rlndvt | CissWit: Is there a different keyword I could use for the search? |
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| 14:42.26 | CissWit | rlndvt: you can try '?version(lmde)' as most packages looks to use "lmde" in their version |
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| 14:42.57 | CissWit | seams to use |
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| 14:48.16 | rlndvt | CissWit: that also comes up empty, I think it' s quite possible I haven't got any of those packages installed |
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| 14:49.12 | rlndvt | Can I search for packages that aren't '?origin(debian)' |
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| 14:55.12 | rlndvt | CissWit: I found something interesting: http://paste.debian.net/166943/ |
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| 14:59.02 | rlndvt | CissWit: I'll manually go through that list and then come back here, but first, dinner! Thanks for your help! |
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| 15:00.28 | sslb | when is Jessie set to be released? |
| 15:00.42 | kodapa | sslb: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html |
| 15:00.55 | sslb | kodapa: thanks |
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| 15:14.16 | CissWit | rlndvt: '?narrow(~i, ?not(?origin(Debian))' should work |
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| 15:14.55 | cy5 | how to find wifi incoming request port number or ipaddress in raspberry pi |
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| 15:16.32 | thabom | teraflop: it's quite interesting, this generated a usable cert + key: openssl req -newkey rsa:1024 -x509 -nodes -out slapd.pem -keyout slapd.pem -days 3650 |
| 15:16.59 | thabom | without CA cert but still TLS_REQCERT can stay on hard/demand |
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| 15:20.13 | thabom | conclusion: screw gnutls we'll stay with openssl eventhough i don't trust it anymore.. |
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| 15:22.17 | teraflop | thabom: heh |
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| 15:25.15 | nitze | Bonjour, je recherche quelqu'un pour ecrire mon htacces apres une migration phpbb-seo to xenforo |
| 15:25.35 | NoImNotN1neVolt | #debianfr |
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| 15:27.16 | nitze | thx |
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| 15:27.35 | NoImNotN1neVolt | de rien |
| 15:28.20 | nitze | tu penses que je peux trouver de l'aide ici ou maquestion est totallement horssujet ? |
| 15:29.04 | NoImNotN1neVolt | only if you speak english, because i haven't studied french in over 15 years :P |
| 15:29.14 | nitze | hmm ok , ty |
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| 15:29.45 | nitze | Hello, i am looking to someone who could creat my new htacces after a phpbb-seo to xenforo migration |
| 15:30.06 | NoImNotN1neVolt | that's... that's not a debian question :P |
| 15:30.14 | NoImNotN1neVolt | try #apache maybe? |
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| 15:30.34 | NoImNotN1neVolt | or sorry, #httpd |
| 15:31.04 | nitze | ty |
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| 15:36.03 | mi11k1 | hello, I just installed the wrong architecture of jessie, how can I upgrade the system to the right arch without reinstalling? |
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| 15:37.17 | mtn | mi11k1: does it boot now? |
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| 15:38.39 | jelly | mi11k1: you can't |
| 15:38.53 | mtn | mi11k1: if it boots now, then it is not the wrong architecture |
| 15:39.25 | Szeraax18 | using isc-dhcp-server, made a change to dhcpd.conf and now doing ipxe boot no longer works because server isn't responding to bootp queries. |
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| 15:39.40 | mi11k1 | I thought the processor was older and I installed i386 |
| 15:39.53 | Szeraax18 | Any ideas? I have 'allow dynamic bootp clients;' in that pool |
| 15:39.54 | mi11k1 | but it's 64 |
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| 15:47.33 | mi11k1 | Szeraax18: I'm trying with dnsmasq, it looks simpler |
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| 15:48.28 | Szeraax18 | I've had it working great for about 3 months |
| 15:48.37 | Szeraax18 | using FOG, mi11k1. |
| 15:49.04 | Szeraax18 | I just added some new pools and tried to put the bootp stuff into one of the pools and now they don't get an ip address when doing the LAN boot |
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| 15:52.03 | Szeraax18 | mi11k1, wow I feel stupid! I took out the next-server and didn't add it to that pool |
| 15:52.13 | Szeraax18 | added it and now its working perfect. |
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| 15:54.04 | mi11k1 | Szeraax18: sometimes you just gotta walk away for a sec |
| 15:54.48 | Szeraax18 | haha, ya. I was really hoping to not have to add ANOTHER piece of software in the cahin |
| 15:54.54 | Szeraax18 | chain* |
| 15:55.03 | Szeraax18 | Do you want to see my dhcpd.conf file? |
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| 15:58.35 | TaZeR | hey what a coinsidence my ex-girlfriend's name was Debian |
| 16:00.41 | Szeraax18 | awk! |
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| 16:03.01 | cy5 | How to make NAT rules get affected in my iptables |
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| 16:04.11 | jelly | TaZeR: hello there. This channel is for tech support, you're welcome to ask tech questions related to using this distro but try to stay away from dumb lines like that. |
| 16:04.51 | TaZeR | its actually very interesting and dives into the roots of the debian distro herself as i believe one of the founders named it after a girlfriend he had of the same name |
| 16:05.15 | cy5 | How to make NAT rules get affected in my iptables |
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| 16:05.32 | nstr | "very interesting" ? |
| 16:05.33 | jelly | TaZeR: let me reinterate: Tech. Support. |
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| 16:06.10 | bolt | cy5: what do you mean? |
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| 16:10.07 | cy5 | bolt: Iam trying to apply Prerouting and Postrouting but i cannot see it in iptables -L |
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| 16:10.27 | jelly | cy5: iptables -t nat -L |
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| 16:11.15 | jelly | cy5: or iptables-save |
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| 16:13.47 | cy5 | jelly:thanks that work i want to redirect wifi user to my web page how is it possible through iptables? |
| 16:14.14 | valdyn | cy5: once or always? |
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| 16:14.40 | cy5 | always |
| 16:16.29 | valdyn | first the iptables setup: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-port-redirection-with-iptables/ |
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| 16:17.18 | valdyn | http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDsQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fservercomputing.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F03%2Fsquid-proxy-redirect-url.html&ei=_o4uVaTVIsblaqfHgMAH&usg=AFQjCNEqSS62vbey8WpakyxmSlX8f1XTrw&sig2=4YFcn40WvoS987zcGvkXGQ&bvm=bv.90790515,d.d2s |
| 16:17.23 | valdyn | oops |
| 16:17.24 | valdyn | sorry |
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| 16:17.57 | valdyn | cy5: then something like squid to redirect the http traffic: http://www.powershelladmin.com/wiki/Linux_squid_proxy_url_rewriting_or_redirection |
| 16:18.15 | valdyn | cy5: probably not that easy for you, and i cant you you through it. |
| 16:18.23 | valdyn | cy5: probably not that easy for you, and i cant *walk* you through it. |
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| 16:20.05 | cy5 | valdyn:thanks for answer i'll have to go through each link you provided, is it not just possible with iptables command |
| 16:20.15 | cy5 | i mean redirection |
| 16:20.19 | valdyn | cy5: yea, its not |
| 16:20.27 | valdyn | cy5: because a URL is not just an ip |
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| 16:20.54 | valdyn | cy5: if your user try "www.debian.org/bugs", then if you only do iptables he well still *see* that name |
| 16:21.15 | valdyn | cy5: and of course he will get a "page not found" error from your web site. |
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| 16:22.04 | valdyn | cy5: but doing this properly he will see the redirection target in his address bar in his browser |
| 16:22.09 | cy5 | yes thats right and like on your first link its say to enter src port number so iam no raspberry pi ssh port is 22 and ngnix server is on 80 port so what should be my port number in src and dest |
| 16:22.25 | valdyn | cy5: src does not matter |
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| 16:22.42 | valdyn | srg: the link gives *port* rediret,you redirect the *ip* instead |
| 16:23.00 | valdyn | srg: src and dst port of course is 80 (http) i suppose |
| 16:23.17 | valdyn | srg: err, sorry |
| 16:23.28 | valdyn | srg: *original* dst and redirect dst port is 80 |
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| 16:23.46 | valdyn | srg: the *source* port is irrelevant and is a random high port |
| 16:24.12 | cy5 | valdyn:and dest port is 80 |
| 16:24.24 | valdyn | cy5: for now |
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| 16:25.08 | Malinux | how do I downgrade libc6 from sid to libc6 from wheezy ? |
| 16:25.26 | valdyn | cy5: hmm, actually, you can just have the redirect http in your web server, so you dont really need squid |
| 16:26.03 | cy5 | valdyn:yes thats what i was thinking |
| 16:26.10 | valdyn | cy5: so just that iptables stuff you are doing now, and some generic url rewrite in apache (or whatever web server) |
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| 16:28.33 | cy5 | apache is set but i'm confuse with src port and dest port what it should be? like to route all wifi user to my webserver how can i know the port on which i'm getting wifi packets |
| 16:29.07 | valdyn | cy5: your users are doing web access |
| 16:29.12 | valdyn | cy5: thats a dst port of 80 |
| 16:29.24 | valdyn | cy5: or 443 if you want to serve https too |
| 16:29.55 | cy5 | yes and src should be ? |
| 16:30.05 | valdyn | cy5: src is random |
| 16:30.21 | srruby | Will my server blow up if I run timidity and lame on it ? I need to convert midi files to mp3. My server is running on linode. Debian wheezy |
| 16:30.47 | valdyn | cy5: src as he calls it on that website is also 80 |
| 16:30.53 | Malinux | srruby: you should have a safety line of 100 meters at least |
| 16:30.59 | valdyn | cy5: i would call that "original dst" |
| 16:31.08 | valdyn | cy5: both are 80 for you |
| 16:31.23 | Malinux | the libc6 package is part of some sid-packages I needed from sid, but I want to reverse it. How can I do that? |
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| 16:31.39 | cy5 | valdyn: thanks and interface is wlan0 right? |
| 16:31.53 | valdyn | cy5: you want to rewrite *only* the ip, not the port anyway, you use --dport as a selector, to *only* redirect web traffic |
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| 16:34.03 | cy5 | valdyn:how to flush nat rules |
| 16:34.28 | valdyn | cy5: iptables -t nat -F |
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| 16:39.05 | g00se | Forgot my mysql-server root password. Fortunately i was able to purge as the server was untouched. Trouble is, after reinstalling, there didn't seem to be any debconf going on (could have sworn the root password is chosen at install time) so i'm STILL locked out ... |
| 16:39.14 | cy5 | I tried but its not redirecting here my command http://pastebin.com/HSj6ZtgD |
| 16:39.30 | cy5 | valdyn:I tried but its not redirecting here my command http://pastebin.com/HSj6ZtgD |
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| 16:40.34 | ChrisH | cy5: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-5.html redirects to the proxy port on 3218 redirecting from 80 to 80 does not make sense to me. offline now |
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| 16:45.35 | g00se | nm folks. I was reconfiguring the metapackage |
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| 16:56.05 | rlndvt | CissWit shingouz and jelly, Thank you guys, got rid of my frankendebian system! (well the franken aspect that is ;) ) |
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| 16:56.29 | rlndvt | cheers! |
| 16:56.29 | shingouz | rlndvt: congratulations |
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| 17:02.01 | {xmb} | anyone who done xen hvm can help me ? |
| 17:02.33 | shingouz | !anyone |
| 17:02.34 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 17:03.46 | Malinux | {xmb}: how do you think anyone can help you with xen if you don't explain what the problem is? :) |
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| 17:38.20 | Goran_ | if i install debian with debotstrap and boot it with grub2win, do i still need a /boot partition? |
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| 17:40.56 | shurnormal | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/256/is-it-good-to-make-a-separate-partition-for-boot |
| 17:41.35 | shurnormal | Ah noes those are generalities. |
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| 17:41.58 | {xmb} | Malinux i have done xl.conf and xl create xl.conf, what else do i need to do |
| 17:42.15 | Malinux | have no idea |
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| 17:49.37 | wyre | hi guys! :D i need to install that software :D https://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=ghdl |
| 17:49.52 | wyre | but i'm on Debian Jessie and the package isn't in repos :( |
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| 17:55.31 | Malinux | {xmb}: my question was |
| 17:55.33 | Malinux | {xmb}: how do you think anyone can help you with xen if you don't explain what the problem is? :) |
| 17:57.29 | ripdisk | any hams in here? i'm broadcasting an sstv image of a trollface to a repeater network and am wondering if anybody can see it lol |
| 17:57.36 | ripdisk | oops wrong channel |
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| 17:59.56 | small-chimp | hi everyone! |
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| 18:00.00 | small-chimp | burn all jews in oven |
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| 18:00.50 | ripdisk | 4etc |
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| 18:02.01 | ompaul | !ops troll and or idiot small-chimp |
| 18:02.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ompaul complains about: troll and or idiot small-chimp |
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| 18:04.00 | SynrGy | ompaul: thanks |
| 18:04.27 | ompaul | SynrGy: np |
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| 18:14.08 | DrDamnit | apt-get upgrade has hung at: Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64. What do I do here? (It's been 20 minutes). |
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| 18:19.08 | stacks88 | so is this the right procedure i should be following with my servers: To always login as a user, then sudo -i to become root -- and never define a root password ? and keep ssh as root to without-password ? like is this the right philsophy i should be having. cause i still enjoy being root or, not having to constantly put sudo before everything, thats the main thing. Just dont wanna do sudo sudo |
| 18:19.08 | stacks88 | sudo constnatly, so thats why i do sudo -i -- but am asking you guys if this is OK to do, this behavior ive outlined. |
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| 18:43.12 | [TheFlash] | hi, why does alsa-base depend on kmod? |
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| 18:44.46 | joephilly | anyone know where I can find an updated version of python3-postgresql? The one in the debian repo is outdated |
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| 18:45.42 | Brigo | ,v python3-postgresql? |
| 18:45.42 | SynrG | er, because it uses insmod, etc.? |
| 18:45.43 | Brigo | ,v python3-postgresql |
| 18:45.44 | judd | No package named 'python3-postgresql?' was found in i386. |
| 18:45.45 | judd | Package: python3-postgresql on i386 -- wheezy: 1.0.2-1+b1; sid: 1.1.0-2+b1; jessie: 1.1.0-2+b1 |
| 18:45.52 | SynrG | isn't that a bit obvious? :) |
| 18:46.18 | SynrG | if you have a non-standard kernel (no modules), alsa-base probably won't help you much :p |
| 18:46.19 | [TheFlash] | SynrG: but insmod is useless on my machine, my kernel was compiled without module support |
| 18:46.38 | [TheFlash] | SynrG: alsa was compiled in, it works |
| 18:46.38 | SynrG | then alsa-base will throw a bunch of errors, won't it? |
| 18:46.41 | SynrG | yeah |
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| 18:46.49 | [TheFlash] | will it still work even if i remove alsa-base? |
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| 18:47.28 | SynrG | i don't think you can without disrupting a whole bunch of dependencies on it ... |
| 18:47.34 | joephilly | Brigo, what is that telling me? |
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| 18:48.10 | [TheFlash] | SynrG: kmod also wants to pull acpi-support-base with it too |
| 18:48.48 | [TheFlash] | SynrG: is there any way to tell apt to ignore dependencies? |
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| 18:49.03 | SynrG | at your own peril |
| 18:49.08 | tremon | !equivs |
| 18:49.08 | dpkg | equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell <apt> you really have installed (through some other means) the package. aptitude install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, see also <usrlocal>. A better plan is often to adapt the Debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>. |
| 18:49.33 | [TheFlash] | thanks tremon |
| 18:49.48 | SynrG | i was just about to reach for that factoid ;) |
| 18:49.48 | tremon | [TheFlash]: also, some kernel options are better not chosen if you want to remain compatible with debian proper |
| 18:50.21 | [TheFlash] | i generally try to disable as much as i can |
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| 18:51.10 | mtn | joephilly: it simply says there are newer versions in jessie and sid. you could upgrade to jessie or try doing a backport of the package. |
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| 18:51.22 | pharpend | Hey guys, I have debian installed in a virtualBox virtual machine. I updated to debian-testing. |
| 18:51.27 | pharpend | Everything worked perfectly before |
| 18:51.37 | pharpend | At the moment, pretty much everything works |
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| 18:51.57 | pharpend | The only thing that doesn't is resizing the virtual monitor |
| 18:52.01 | joephilly | mtn, which one is stable? |
| 18:52.13 | pharpend | https://a.pomf.se/cebuts.png |
| 18:52.15 | mtn | joephilly: wheezy |
| 18:52.31 | pharpend | ^ How do I get the debian VM to fill up the whole screen? |
| 18:52.33 | [TheFlash] | equivs is a amazing, thank you all! |
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| 18:52.45 | [TheFlash] | s/a amazing/amazing/ |
| 18:52.53 | pharpend | I've upgraded everything, and installed virtualbox-guest-x11 |
| 18:52.57 | pharpend | and rebooted |
| 18:53.01 | pharpend | Still doing that |
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| 19:33.31 | anddam | how can just copying the iso image at 4.3.1 possibly work? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 19:33.59 | anddam | is there need for special support from the firmware? |
| 19:34.35 | anddam | also on a 4GB Celeron system should I go with i386 image or amd64? |
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| 19:36.42 | SynrG | Which precise Celeron model? |
| 19:37.17 | SynrG | Is it a 64 bit Celeron? If so, yes, use amd64 |
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| 19:37.34 | SynrG | If an old 32 bit, use i386 |
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| 19:38.00 | anddam | N2820 |
| 19:38.09 | anddam | it's the Intel NUC thingy |
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| 19:38.25 | anddam | I'll check that |
| 19:38.30 | anddam | what about the booting process? |
| 19:39.03 | anddam | http://ark.intel.com/products/79052/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2820-1M-Cache-up-to-2_39-GHz says 64 bit ISA |
| 19:39.39 | anddam | I'm a bit confused about the install process, I have been installing VM only for a few years, now I need to build an actual USB stick |
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| 19:40.44 | SynrG | Build? It's a simple copy to the device node |
| 19:41.05 | SynrG | It's a hybrid iso. Works directly |
| 19:41.22 | SynrG | !usb install |
| 19:41.23 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 19:41.48 | anddam | I don't get how the simple cp operation would allow the USB to be bootable |
| 19:41.53 | anddam | is there special support nowadays? |
| 19:42.21 | anddam | I'm reading the install guide, chapter 4 specifically |
| 19:42.47 | SynrG | It's magic |
| 19:42.47 | dondelelcaro | anddam: cp to a block device just writes directly to the block device |
| 19:43.03 | SynrG | It works because it includes a valid boot sector |
| 19:43.04 | anddam | oh, right, missed that /dev/sdX bit |
| 19:43.11 | SynrG | Yep |
| 19:43.13 | anddam | ok makes totally sense |
| 19:43.35 | anddam | so a CD image |
| 19:43.44 | anddam | should I go testing now? |
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| 19:44.20 | anddam | IIRC "the Jessie is coming" (tm) |
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| 19:45.10 | SynrG | Personally i would. But i need to give the obligatory risks lecture |
| 19:45.10 | SynrG | !testing |
| 19:45.10 | SynrG | Lower risk this close to release though |
| 19:45.11 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 19:45.40 | anddam | it's a small home system |
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| 19:45.53 | SynrG | Probably OK then |
| 19:45.58 | anddam | nothing critical about the risk, if something goes wrong I'll just wipe |
| 19:46.21 | anddam | mm what else? I haven't installed a DE in a while, I remember one of the two small was moving from GTK to Qt |
| 19:46.26 | anddam | let me check |
| 19:46.34 | anddam | LXDE |
| 19:46.44 | SynrG | Lxqt not ready yet |
| 19:46.52 | anddam | ok that I wanted to know |
| 19:46.55 | SynrG | Or whatever they call it |
| 19:47.05 | anddam | I LXQt |
| 19:47.16 | anddam | I don't have a bias between the two, any hint? |
| 19:47.19 | SynrG | But that's my preferred light desktop |
| 19:47.39 | anddam | oh this is fun, haven't done the DE dance in years :-) |
| 19:47.52 | SynrG | Well, Debian doesn't have lxqt so the point is moot |
| 19:47.59 | anddam | but it will, eventually |
| 19:49.02 | anddam | does deb have this "MATE" DE? |
| 19:49.18 | anddam | nvm, should have checked https://wiki.debian.org/Mate |
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| 19:58.52 | anddam | debian-cd has only stable, right? |
| 19:59.15 | anddam | i.e. I couldn't find a mirror for testing images |
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| 19:59.38 | rainfyre | you can download a current testing snapshot |
| 19:59.38 | ompaul | anddam: the official way to install testing is install stable and dist-upgrade |
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| 19:59.42 | ompaul | there are testing images |
| 19:59.52 | ompaul | you will find them on the debian site |
| 19:59.53 | anddam | ompaul: yes, but I couldn't find in mirror |
| 19:59.54 | pangolinrollin | is there not a stable html editor in jessie repos?! |
| 19:59.57 | rainfyre | but better to download and install a minimal stable image and upgrade |
| 20:00.06 | pangolinrollin | tried kompozer, bluefish etc.. |
| 20:00.25 | anddam | ompaul: I was trying to reduce the load on debian's, I'll use a stable mirror |
| 20:01.08 | pangolinrollin | ^ ahh nvmd bluefish appears to work |
| 20:01.20 | pangolinrollin | just not kompozer fy |
| 20:02.29 | SynrG | of course, this close to the jessie release, you can provide valuable feedback to the debian-boot team if you try the jessie installer release candidate |
| 20:03.31 | SynrG | https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:03.33 | anddam | SynrG: like https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2015/20150327? |
| 20:03.38 | anddam | without the trailing ? |
| 20:03.49 | anddam | (that HTTP will gladly swallow tho') |
| 20:04.12 | SynrG | RC2 hopefully has most of the kinks worked out |
| 20:04.36 | SynrG | also note: "After using the Debian-Installer, please send us an installation report, even if there weren't any problems." |
| 20:05.03 | SynrG | ,v installation-report |
| 20:05.04 | judd | Package: installation-report on i386 -- squeeze: 2.44; wheezy: 2.49; jessie: 2.58; sid: 2.58 |
| 20:05.13 | anddam | also why is there "other images (netboot, USB stick, etc.)" with specific reference to USB stick if you said installing from USB just uses the hybrid iso? |
| 20:05.24 | anddam | at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:05.40 | SynrG | anddam: in rare corner cases, BIOS can't handle hybrid |
| 20:05.59 | SynrG | or due to other special needs (e.g. existing USB stick, don't want to overwrite contents) you might need to do it the 'hard way' |
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| 20:06.51 | SynrG | that's what 'hd-media' is for |
| 20:07.12 | SynrG | it's perhaps misleading to call that "USB stick" now |
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| 20:19.20 | alien1it | #list |
| 20:19.41 | ompaul | !debian |
| 20:19.41 | dpkg | it has been said that debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 20:24.43 | anddam | dd'ing the image to the usb stick now |
| 20:24.53 | damiox | Hi. Fresh Debian Jessie installation, no cron.daily is running. I'm wondering if I should configure something for anacron to work properly. Any thoughts? |
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| 20:26.25 | damiox | My computer is power off at 6.25AM (when it should run the cron.daily) but I just found that it should be executed the next time it's being started (anacron's duty). |
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| 20:30.13 | kryo_ | how do i find out which source to add to my sources.list if i want a specific package? |
| 20:30.57 | ompaul | kryo_: perhaps you would like to tell us what you are looking for |
| 20:31.00 | ompaul | we can tell you more than |
| 20:31.02 | ompaul | then |
| 20:31.05 | kryo_ | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=openjdk-7-jre |
| 20:31.19 | ompaul | ,v openjdk |
| 20:31.20 | judd | No package named 'openjdk' was found in i386. |
| 20:31.25 | ompaul | ,v openjdk-7 |
| 20:31.26 | judd | No package named 'openjdk-7' was found in i386. |
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| 20:31.37 | kryo_ | ,v openjdk-7-jre |
| 20:31.38 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jre on i386 -- wheezy: 7u3-2.1.7-1; wheezy-security: 7u75-2.5.4-1~deb7u1; jessie: 7u75-2.5.4-2; sid: 7u75-2.5.4-3 |
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| 20:32.17 | ompaul | it's in main |
| 20:32.38 | kryo_ | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main |
| 20:32.44 | ompaul | apt-get update && apt-get install openjdk-7-jre |
| 20:32.46 | kryo_ | that's from my sources.list |
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| 20:33.02 | ompaul | do that as root and you will have it |
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| 20:33.17 | ompaul | assuming networking works |
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| 20:33.27 | kryo_ | ah, just needed the update |
| 20:33.33 | kryo_ | strange cause it's a new installation |
| 20:33.37 | ompaul | no |
| 20:33.40 | ompaul | not strange :) |
| 20:33.52 | kryo_ | i would expect it to update after installing |
| 20:33.56 | kryo_ | but i guess that's not what it does |
| 20:34.14 | ompaul | correct |
| 20:34.24 | kryo_ | welp thanks |
| 20:34.24 | ompaul | welcome to the, now you know department |
| 20:34.29 | kryo_ | lol |
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| 20:41.09 | damiox | I found out anacron was not running in my system |
| 20:42.45 | dewp | Hellohello :) having problems running a stable x with hardware acceleration via radeon on an ibook g4.... It is freezing and i cant even log in. This is my log http://paste.debian.net/166991/ |
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| 20:44.25 | dewp | maybe somebody has an idea? |
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| 20:51.32 | Ravenslock | 'sudo apt-get update' returns errors for mirror.zol.co.zw:http: |
| 20:51.32 | Ravenslock | http://pastebin.com/4BBkpNbL |
| 20:51.32 | Ravenslock | What do I do now? |
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| 20:57.20 | Brigo | Ravenslock, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 21:00.06 | Ravenslock | @ Brigo http://pastebin.com/N0hg7L5b |
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| 21:01.33 | Brigo | Ravenslock, i think it's fine, so it have to be a server problem. Try again in some time. |
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| 21:02.20 | Ravenslock | ok thanks Brigo :) :-D |
| 21:02.27 | Brigo | Ravenslock, np :) |
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| 21:04.02 | introom | hi. for a virtual package like this: https://packages.debian.org/sid/awk |
| 21:04.16 | introom | how can I know what the exact package will be before I actually install it? |
| 21:05.41 | towo` | you cant install such package |
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| 21:28.34 | vlt | Hi |
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| 21:29.18 | Agiofws | all of the sudden debian lost my screen resolution it won't increase more than 1024x768 how can i fix this |
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| 21:30.36 | Agiofws | ok fixed |
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| 21:33.19 | abrotman | glad we could help .. |
| 21:33.19 | gzcwnk | anyone in? |
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| 21:34.20 | gzcwnk | I am trying to get 4 nics to work and need to write persitant rules the script /lib/udev/write_net_rules is asking for $INTERFACE but i cant find what that's meant to be |
| 21:34.41 | gzcwnk | eth0 doesnt work |
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| 21:34.51 | gzcwnk | nor all_interfaces |
| 21:35.30 | abrotman | dmesg | grep eth ? |
| 21:37.21 | gzcwnk | abrotman i dont follow u, the nics are eth0 to eth3 |
| 21:37.41 | gzcwnk | eth0 isnt acceptable tot he script |
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| 21:39.28 | abrotman | gzcwnk: I thought these thigns were supposed to go in the z70 file? |
| 21:39.38 | abrotman | dpkg: tell gzcwnk about z70 |
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| 21:40.00 | gzcwnk | for older stuff yes but not newer but it looks like just a name change |
| 21:40.13 | gzcwnk | ls -l |
| 21:40.18 | gzcwnk | oops |
| 21:40.25 | gzcwnk | there is a persisatnt cd file |
| 21:40.30 | gzcwnk | no net file |
| 21:40.36 | gzcwnk | I need to generate one |
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| 21:42.35 | gzcwnk | ive tried to write it manually, no joy |
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| 21:50.38 | valdyn | gzcwnk: why are you writing rules instead of using the default ? |
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| 21:51.58 | valdyn | gzcwnk: you certainly dont need to write one manually |
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| 21:52.49 | gzcwnk | with 4 nics they keep changing about and dropping IPs |
| 21:52.55 | valdyn | gzcwnk: of course |
| 21:53.19 | valdyn | gzcwnk: why dont you read /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian |
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| 21:53.35 | gzcwnk | well if eth0 is on lan1 and eth0 is now on lan 2 but keeps the lan addresss of lan 1 well you have no network |
| 21:54.35 | gzcwnk | because i didnt know it existed |
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| 21:56.58 | gzcwnk | hmm that didnt help much |
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| 21:59.10 | valdyn | gzcwnk: yea, you are right |
| 21:59.38 | valdyn | gzcwnk: here goes: the /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules has various exceptions that will disable a z70- file being generated |
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| 21:59.49 | gzcwnk | ive googled quite a bit seems its a bit lacking in a doc |
| 22:00.26 | gzcwnk | weird thing but redhat is easy... |
| 22:00.38 | valdyn | gzcwnk: you can replace that file (and remove those exceptions) by copying that file to /etc/udev/rules.d |
| 22:00.39 | gzcwnk | it generates teh file then its an easy edit |
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| 22:01.40 | gzcwnk | im looking in that file and its very complex |
| 22:01.54 | valdyn | # ignore Xen virtual interfaces, # ignore UML virtual interfaces etc |
| 22:01.59 | valdyn | all "exceptions" |
| 22:02.23 | gzcwnk | hmm bit much for me to undersatnd |
| 22:02.42 | valdyn | gzcwnk: did you get the part where you need to copy the original generator ? |
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| 22:03.35 | gzcwnk | these rules generate rules and writes them to 70-x which is what I want it to do |
| 22:03.46 | valdyn | gzcwnk: .... |
| 22:04.00 | gzcwnk | sorry i am not following |
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| 22:04.12 | valdyn | gzcwnk: copy /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules to /etc/udev/rules.d |
| 22:04.18 | gzcwnk | ok |
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| 22:05.17 | gzcwnk | then what? |
| 22:05.18 | valdyn | gzcwnk: now that replaced the generator with an identical one, not yet useful |
| 22:05.27 | valdyn | gzcwnk: now you can *edit* that file |
| 22:05.46 | gzcwnk | ah but what to put in it? |
| 22:05.51 | valdyn | gzcwnk: nothing |
| 22:06.03 | valdyn | gzcwnk: see line 28 ? |
| 22:06.30 | valdyn | gzcwnk: now if you're in a Xen virtual machine, you might want to remove line 28-29, simple |
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| 22:07.38 | gzcwnk | still confused |
| 22:07.41 | valdyn | gzcwnk: line 19-38 seems to cover exceptions, which if tested true will quit the script and not create the z70 file. |
| 22:08.07 | valdyn | gzcwnk: now if youre still confused you need to tell which part here exactly is hard |
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| 22:08.15 | gzcwnk | so for KERNEL!=eth..... i just remove taht line? |
| 22:08.21 | valdyn | gzcwnk: because i dont know what is not ovious now |
| 22:08.52 | valdyn | gzcwnk: why the hell? |
| 22:09.16 | valdyn | gzcwnk: this line sais "make no rule if the network interface has an unusual name" |
| 22:09.17 | gzcwnk | no idea....like I said I odnt understand |
| 22:09.39 | valdyn | gzcwnk: but yours are called eth0-eth3 I think |
| 22:09.47 | gzcwnk | yes |
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| 22:11.03 | valdyn | gzcwnk: remove lines 19-38, reboot |
| 22:12.03 | valdyn | gzcwnk: is this a real physical machine? |
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| 22:12.18 | valdyn | gzcwnk: what is the nic chip producer company? |
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| 22:12.49 | gzcwnk | vmware |
| 22:12.54 | gzcwnk | vmxnet3 |
| 22:13.20 | gzcwnk | though the real machine when I get it will have a quad port intel nic |
| 22:13.28 | gzcwnk | plus on board |
| 22:13.37 | gzcwnk | so 5 or 6 nics |
| 22:13.45 | gzcwnk | it will be a kvm host |
| 22:14.08 | valdyn | # ignore interfaces with locally administered or null MAC addresses |
| 22:14.09 | valdyn | # and VMWare, Hyper-V, KVM, Virtualbox and Xen virtual interfaces |
| 22:14.19 | valdyn | gzcwnk: we removed the wrong lines, but thats ok |
| 22:14.53 | valdyn | gzcwnk: see lines 72-81 |
| 22:15.06 | valdyn | gzcwnk: err, thats not longer true in your file |
| 22:15.15 | valdyn | gzcwnk: just find "VMWare" in your file |
| 22:15.18 | gzcwnk | i did a # and not a remove |
| 22:15.24 | valdyn | gzcwnk: ok |
| 22:15.26 | gzcwnk | so its all still there |
| 22:15.36 | valdyn | gzcwnk: you dont need to put it back |
| 22:15.47 | valdyn | gzcwnk: since we already know you dont want to abort... |
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| 22:16.42 | valdyn | gzcwnk: you could just have reordered the interface in vmware btw, I think |
| 22:16.56 | valdyn | gzcwnk: but nvm, this works too |
| 22:17.26 | gzcwnk | i tried that didnt work |
| 22:17.48 | gzcwnk | the real machine will be physical so I wont have that option anyway |
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| 22:18.06 | valdyn | gzcwnk: theres alot more rules in there |
| 22:18.13 | valdyn | gzcwnk: i cant say which one else might match |
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| 22:19.10 | gzcwnk | ENV match is 00:50:56:* |
| 22:19.40 | gzcwnk | so i'd just hash out that one line? |
| 22:19.53 | valdyn | gzcwnk: of course |
| 22:20.50 | gzcwnk | nothing like confidence.... |
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| 22:26.24 | gzcwnk | well I dont see what that acheived |
| 22:26.37 | gzcwnk | I cant see how I say MAC 1 = eth0 |
| 22:26.51 | gzcwnk | :1 |
| 22:27.29 | valdyn | gzcwnk: was the file generated? |
| 22:27.35 | gzcwnk | nope |
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| 22:28.13 | valdyn | gzcwnk: maybe that needs to get into the initrd, i dont know |
| 22:28.19 | valdyn | gzcwnk: anyway, just use this: |
| 22:29.03 | valdyn | http://paste.debian.net/167006/ |
| 22:29.35 | gzcwnk | i tried writing that before |
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| 22:30.12 | gzcwnk | ah i made a typo before |
| 22:30.24 | gzcwnk | I missed a second hash |
| 22:30.36 | gzcwnk | so this reboot it made the file |
| 22:30.37 | gzcwnk | :D |
| 22:30.52 | valdyn | at last |
| 22:31.17 | gzcwnk | hehe, thanks |
| 22:31.45 | gzcwnk | I am going to write it up in simpleton terms for me |
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| 22:32.08 | valdyn | i really have no idea why they need to exempt so many systems from persistent interfaces |
| 22:32.32 | gzcwnk | me neither RH for instance generates a lot of rules |
| 22:32.42 | valdyn | thats older redhat |
| 22:32.51 | gzcwnk | probably |
| 22:32.54 | gzcwnk | rhel6 |
| 22:32.56 | valdyn | and you're on jessie |
| 22:33.03 | valdyn | which is not even released |
| 22:33.05 | gzcwnk | i have not looked at rhel7 much yet |
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| 22:33.23 | gzcwnk | not released? |
| 22:33.39 | valdyn | well, jessie is not officially stable yet |
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| 22:33.44 | valdyn | !wwjr |
| 22:33.44 | dpkg | Debian 8 "Jessie" will release on 2015-04-25; ask me about <wheezy->jessie>. There's plenty of bugs still to squash so ask me about <how-can-i-help>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie pool 1>. See <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html> |
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| 22:34.01 | gzcwnk | oh i am on 7.8 so its stable |
| 22:34.17 | valdyn | gzcwnk: ok, I didnt even know that 7.8 has those exceptions too |
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| 22:38.44 | gzcwnk | well taht didnt work |
| 22:38.55 | gzcwnk | it ignored eth0 and made a eth4 |
| 22:38.59 | gzcwnk | :/ |
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| 22:39.23 | valdyn | gzcwnk: maybe because that name was in use at the time |
| 22:39.38 | valdyn | gzcwnk: i go ethX -> netX |
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| 22:40.08 | gzcwnk | might be a plan |
| 22:40.27 | gzcwnk | I can see I can just name them |
| 22:40.36 | gzcwnk | which is useful I suppose |
| 22:40.54 | valdyn | gzcwnk: some ancient programs will break at unusual name |
| 22:41.00 | valdyn | gzcwnk: but thats rare |
| 22:41.27 | gzcwnk | well network is still broken |
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| 22:47.11 | gzcwnk | roueting screwed up... |
| 22:47.15 | gzcwnk | roueting |
| 22:47.19 | gzcwnk | dih |
| 22:47.23 | gzcwnk | routeing |
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| 22:51.59 | blackjack | guys how do i mount my android tablet via USB connection on debian? |
| 22:52.41 | gzcwnk | plug it in? |
| 22:52.43 | gzcwnk | :P |
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| 22:54.21 | blackjack | gzcwnk it is already plugged. |
| 22:54.39 | blackjack | i dont see my system detecting the device |
| 22:55.58 | gzcwnk | type dmesg |grep -i 'SCSI device' |
| 22:56.30 | gzcwnk | also maybe grep SCSI /var/log/messages |
| 22:56.39 | gzcwnk | anything? |
| 22:57.28 | blackjack | someone told me i should instll mtpfs and mtp-tools first on my debian |
| 22:57.33 | blackjack | is this the case? |
| 22:57.40 | gzcwnk | dunno |
| 22:57.55 | gzcwnk | I assume its seen as a scsi disk over usb |
| 22:58.10 | gzcwnk | you should be able to see it as sdb first |
| 22:58.20 | gzcwnk | i assume its sdb |
| 22:58.30 | blackjack | how do i view that via thunar? |
| 22:58.47 | blackjack | you mean i need to mount sdb first? |
| 22:58.55 | gzcwnk | open an xterm and type grep -i SCSI /var/log/messages |
| 22:59.41 | blackjack | done |
| 22:59.46 | blackjack | no result |
| 22:59.51 | gzcwnk | ok do you get an output? |
| 22:59.54 | gzcwnk | oh |
| 23:00.02 | blackjack | no output |
| 23:00.19 | gzcwnk | dmesg |grep -i SCSI anything? |
| 23:00.41 | blackjack | wait. |
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| 23:01.17 | blackjack | http://paste.debian.net/167007/ |
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| 23:01.46 | gzcwnk | taht is your hard drive |
| 23:02.01 | blackjack | thats all for the result |
| 23:02.12 | blackjack | maybe the thing is not detected eh? |
| 23:02.16 | gzcwnk | is it usb3? |
| 23:02.27 | gzcwnk | doesnt look like it |
| 23:03.48 | gzcwnk | what is your laptop? |
| 23:03.49 | blackjack | ooh wait |
| 23:03.49 | blackjack | stupid me. the tablet is off |
| 23:03.49 | blackjack | let me try it again when its open. lol |
| 23:03.49 | gzcwnk | <giigle> |
| 23:03.59 | blackjack | its android 5.1 though |
| 23:04.19 | blackjack | i dont know if that new version can be detected |
| 23:04.30 | gzcwnk | well first thing lets see if the hardware is seen |
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| 23:05.28 | gzcwnk | any joy? |
| 23:05.46 | blackjack | should i type the commands you instructed me a while ago? |
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| 23:06.10 | blackjack | hmm same results |
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| 23:06.35 | gzcwnk | unplug it an re-plug it in |
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| 23:07.32 | blackjack | done. |
| 23:07.46 | gzcwnk | u unplugged? |
| 23:07.49 | blackjack | err same results |
| 23:07.51 | blackjack | yes |
| 23:07.54 | gzcwnk | bummer |
| 23:07.59 | blackjack | unplugged and plugged. hmm |
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| 23:08.15 | gzcwnk | try a different usb port? |
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| 23:08.39 | blackjack | ok let me try the back |
| 23:08.43 | blackjack | coz im using front USB |
| 23:08.49 | blackjack | on my desktop |
| 23:08.54 | blackjack | me try that. brb |
| 23:09.02 | gzcwnk | is front usb on in the bios? |
| 23:09.11 | blackjack | im not sure. |
| 23:09.19 | gzcwnk | try the back then |
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| 23:11.52 | blackjack | same :( |
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| 23:12.13 | blackjack | on my android, it says USB computer connection,. Connected as.. Media Device (MTP) |
| 23:12.13 | gzcwnk | Ok, well I odnt know from here on in, sorry |
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| 23:12.35 | blackjack | the other one is Camera (PTP) |
| 23:12.57 | blackjack | but so far. the only use of plugging my tablet on my Desktop usb is to charge |
| 23:13.06 | gzcwnk | dont know Ive not used debian on a desktop |
| 23:13.29 | blackjack | maybe because the usb cable that am using is only used for charging? (this one i get on my charger) |
| 23:13.30 | gzcwnk | do u have a usb std key to try? |
| 23:13.37 | gzcwnk | ah yes |
| 23:13.41 | gzcwnk | that could be it |
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| 23:13.58 | blackjack | aw. but when my sister gave this to me. she didnt provide any USB data cable |
| 23:14.02 | gzcwnk | some cables are like that |
| 23:14.02 | blackjack | hmmm |
| 23:14.16 | gzcwnk | belkin do that |
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| 23:14.43 | blackjack | oh well. bummer |
| 23:14.45 | blackjack | thanks anyway :) |
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| 23:15.39 | gzcwnk | u need something to test with to see |
| 23:15.50 | gzcwnk | to eliminate that as a possibility |
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| 23:36.46 | iip2 | Hello, I had some problem with the php-json and made a patch but it seems it won't make it for Jessie's first release. I'm looking for advice/suggestion if it can be helped. |
| 23:36.50 | iip2 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780078 |
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| 23:51.49 | future28 | Hi, I just got a new lenovo x1 carbon. Looking for advice on what packages/mods I need to make to improve battery life |
| 23:52.34 | future28 | Also any tips for resolution stuff? The font is damn tiny everywhere since it's 2560x1540 |
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| 23:53.08 | mtn | future28: using a desktop environment? if so, fonts are easily adjustable |
| 23:53.12 | jerichowasahoax | I'm trying to bridge my wireless connection and my ethernet connection using NetworkManager. The wireless connection is my "outbound" connection, and my route to the Internet, and I'm going to use the ethernet to bring the Internet connection to another router. Where do I begin? |
| 23:53.19 | future28 | mtn: Using gnome3, yes. |
| 23:53.30 | mtn | future28: system settings ;) |
| 23:53.46 | future28 | mtn: Fonts seem fine in some places eg gnome stuff, vim etc are all nice, but firefox is absurdly small. Just modded it in prefernces thoigh and it's all good! |
| 23:53.49 | mtn | future28: oops, no, you need the tweak tool |
| 23:54.11 | mtn | future28: yes, some apps control their own settings |
| 23:54.21 | acz32 | change the font size within firefox |
| 23:54.28 | future28 | mtn: Another odd thing - Gnome3 onthis machine has no animations, if that makes sense |
| 23:54.46 | future28 | Eg changing workspace used to 'slide', now it just snaps to another one. I preferred the sliding style but cannot seem to activate it |
| 23:55.15 | mtn | future28: it may be snapping because of the speed of the new machine |
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| 23:55.33 | future28 | mtn: Quite possible, yeah. |
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| 23:58.34 | future28 | So does anyone have suggestions for mods to improve battery life? It's reporting 6 hours at 95%, lenovo state 10 hours in windows 8 |
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