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| 00:05.14 | WormFood | Does enabling xrandr disable DRI? |
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| 00:11.24 | yoLo_ | so.. the software update signals me of an update which is google chrome |
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| 00:11.39 | KM0201 | yoLo_: here lately, that seems like every day |
| 00:11.40 | yoLo_ | when i try to download i get this E: Error http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main google-chrome-stable amd64 40.0.2214.93-1 |
| 00:11.40 | yoLo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.03 | yoLo_ | KM0201, what seems like everyday ? |
| 00:12.09 | WormFood | yoLo_, that isn't a problem with debian |
| 00:12.11 | KM0201 | yoLo_: chrome updating |
| 00:12.57 | KM0201 | I'm using jessie though, and it seems like every single day I have a chrome upgrade... no big deal, but that seems to be the main thing that updates all the time |
| 00:12.59 | yoLo_ | yea i'm aware of that.. |
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| 00:13.28 | yoLo_ | but how can i get an update when the chrome site doesn't work ? |
| 00:14.01 | KM0201 | yoLo_: well, for now, you won't... it's probably just temporarily down |
| 00:14.03 | yoLo_ | not the site but the link debian uses to download and install it |
| 00:14.06 | KM0201 | i'd try it again in a couple hours or tomorrow. |
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| 00:14.15 | yoLo_ | KM0201, this is actually the second time |
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| 00:14.54 | yoLo_ | which was tw weeks ago and i still havn't been able to install that specific chrome update |
| 00:14.55 | WormFood | not being able to access a google url is not an issue with debian. Ask google about it. |
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| 00:17.38 | yoLo_ | must i install it manually or ?? |
| 00:18.05 | samlero_ | do you have a dns server problem? or using a stale /etc/hosts? |
| 00:18.14 | yoLo_ | i'm an in no rush.. but if they know their link doesn work, they shouldn't notify debian about it |
| 00:18.42 | KM0201 | yoLo_: they aren't "notifying debian".. you have a additional source list in your sources.list.d folder, that is for google. |
| 00:18.54 | KM0201 | i just ran apt-get update, and it's ignoring the "google repo" which means it's down most likely |
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| 00:19.28 | KM0201 | debian probably checked it at some point, saw there was an update, and notified you |
| 00:19.35 | KM0201 | then for whatever reason, the server went down |
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| 00:20.34 | KM0201 | FWIW, though.. I'm using 40.0.2214.111 |
| 00:20.40 | yoLo_ | i see |
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| 00:22.13 | KM0201 | weird though, cuz i just pinged that IP address, and it went fine |
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| 00:22.59 | KM0201 | yoLo_: what happens if you try to ping it? |
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| 00:32.32 | Bierdieb | Hello. I have had set up a working debian installation. Then i added a new partition to the system drive and installed windows7. the grub bootloader now is overwritten by the windows mbr. how to reinstall and configure grub now, to make all os choosable and working? |
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| 00:33.45 | WormFood | Bierdieb, you should have installed Winblows first, then installed Linux :P |
| 00:34.29 | SynrG | boot from install media, reinstall grub |
| 00:34.41 | WormFood | but, it's easy enough to fix. You should be able to boot with a rescue disk, and edit the partition table, to set the linux partition as active, and it should reboot into Linux. After that, just run update-grub |
| 00:34.48 | SynrG | update-grub will detect it and set up ok |
| 00:34.59 | SynrG | to boot windows too i mean |
| 00:35.06 | yoLo_ | KM0201, you got something similar to this ? 64 bytes from 206.126.112.162: icmp_req=11 ttl=60 time=42.1 ms |
| 00:35.13 | yoLo_ | when you pinged |
| 00:35.49 | WormFood | the update-grub command, will search out all bootable partitions, and add them to the grub config, so make sure you don't have any bootable USB disks in the drive, or it will be added to the grub boot menu (unless you want that) |
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| 00:35.55 | KM0201 | 64 bytes from 206.126.112.173: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=60.5 ms |
| 00:36.21 | WormFood | yoLo_ and KM0201, this is off topic for this channel. |
| 00:36.26 | KM0201 | .. |
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| 00:36.29 | yoLo_ | WormFood, ok |
| 00:36.41 | WormFood | your problem has *nothing* to do with debian |
| 00:36.54 | yoLo_ | WormFood, we understand... |
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| 00:37.21 | WormFood | There is a #debian-offtopic channel, you can discuss this in ;P |
| 00:37.30 | Bierdieb | thx. |
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| 00:38.43 | cdb23ax | hello, i have troubles with otrs open source ticket system. i installed it onto a debian server in an windows environment |
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| 00:39.18 | cdb23ax | it reads all infos from active directory via ldap |
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| 00:40.17 | cdb23ax | if i want to create a mail account with an adress other then company.local then error appears about missing mx record |
| 00:40.33 | yoLo_ | WormFood, grow up.. |
| 00:40.35 | cdb23ax | company.com for example wont work and |
| 00:41.11 | cdb23ax | it simply quits with an error msg |
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| 00:41.38 | WormFood | yoLo_, "grow up"? Get on topic, or go away. |
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| 01:02.32 | okamis_ | Hi, I need help with finding the url to a deb package called tinyos-tools, the url is http://tinyprod.net/repos/debian-save/dists/squeeze.old/main/binary-amd64/Packages , and that page has a path Filename: pool/main/t/tinyos-tools/tinyos-tools_1.2.4-20111126_amd64.deb |
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| 01:06.43 | nkuttler | ,v tinyos-tools |
| 01:06.45 | judd | Package: tinyos-tools on i386 -- sid: 1.4.2-1; jessie: 1.4.2-1 |
| 01:06.55 | nkuttler | !tell okamis_ about pdo |
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| 01:10.19 | okamis_ | would prefer version 1.2.4, but I cant figure out what to go before the filename in the url |
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| 01:13.23 | okamis_ | nkuttler: my bad, it seems its outputting the version 1.4.2, even though the link says 1.2.4 |
| 01:14.05 | bazhang | okamis_, this for ubuntu or debian |
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| 01:15.13 | okamis_ | bazhang: my apology, was under the impression that I needed an older version |
| 01:16.07 | bazhang | okamis_, I gave you the link for 1,4,2 in #ubuntu if thats what you are running |
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| 01:21.23 | okamis_ | thanks, my ultimate goal was to find the package and install it on archlinux |
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| 01:22.24 | bazhang | try in #archlinux with their bot phrik perhaps |
| 01:24.07 | Beast | hi all |
| 01:24.18 | polyphagia | hi Beast |
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| 01:28.15 | Beast | say, not to start a flame war but did Ubuntu's debranded software center package not make it into jessie? I prefer terminal but sometimes find a gui interface useful |
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| 01:30.51 | polyphagia | no but there is an excellent simple GUI package manager as well as synaptic |
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| 01:32.31 | Beast | will look into synaptic. Thanks |
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| 01:52.45 | BigMouthCommie | running jessie and my keyboard is unusable. commands which were previously ctrl+shift are now ONLY read with shift+control, and many of the other behaviors i expect (ctrl+tab) are also broken all over the place |
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| 02:02.48 | zeitsofa | hello @ all - did anyone have a good howto for setting up wifi in initramfs befor dropbear starts (for remote enter luks passphrase)? |
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| 02:05.27 | bytes | So I've been trying to install Debian Jessie on my laptop and get rid of Windows 8, I apparently wasn't thinking during the process and didn't bother to do anything with the EFI partition and wrote over it |
| 02:05.50 | bytes | Now since it won't boot, what can I do to recover the EFI partition and make it boot |
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| 02:12.53 | sheap | I'm trying to install Debian 7 on virtualbox but the installer keeps failing to find a disk drive. Ubuntu works fine, but I'm not sure what the difference is...anyone have any ideas? |
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| 02:30.55 | ryouma | can you search for bugs the bug report or comments of which contain a string? |
| 02:31.48 | ryouma | does wheezy-backports have a bug tracker? |
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| 02:37.35 | Beast | The easy solution that comes to mind is reinstalling Windows and see if it resets your efi particularities. I installed Debian on a EFI based mac. Of course, I'd installed Ubuntu first. For some reason Ubuntu installs fine onto macs, and has some some years, but Debian hasn't. |
| 02:38.53 | zeitsofa | ryouma: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/ below you will find a search box. maybe it helps for you |
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| 02:40.14 | ryouma | i don't think it woulod be considred a security bug (not /per se/) |
| 02:40.33 | Beast | I recall getting the same mac to boot Debian by using a boot CD with some next generation version of grub on it, though. So that may be of help while you find a quick fix. |
| 02:40.38 | ryouma | and there would be no cve |
| 02:40.40 | Beast | bytes |
| 02:42.03 | bytes | yes? |
| 02:42.44 | bytes | Hmm, rEFInd is stating that I didn't mount properly |
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| 03:03.33 | snadge | anyone here know much about creating a debian image on aws? |
| 03:04.02 | snadge | the default jessie one (community contributed) is 8gb.. and i spent all day trying to figure out how to make it 20gb.. only to terminate both the vm, and the recovery vm i created to do the resize job |
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| 04:02.14 | srg | What's the difference between the real userid and the effective userid? I'm writing a perl script that checks if it's being run as root. Should I check for both uid and euid? |
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| 04:07.32 | ryouma | i happily ignore euid; wfm |
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| 04:10.03 | ryouma | or rather, i just use defaults |
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| 04:11.56 | Waxhead | I am running debian jessie and can't hibernate with systemctl hibernate. THe error seems to be console-kit-daemon: warning error waiting for native console 36 activation: resource temporarily unavailable. Where should I report this bug? console-kit or systemd ? |
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| 04:29.49 | srg | Do the RX and TX values in ifconfig overflow? I'm on amd64. |
| 04:30.01 | srg | I imagine they must have to. How can I find out the limit? |
| 04:32.59 | cheapie | srg: Probably something along the lines of 2^64 (kilo)bytes. I don't think you'll see it overflow unless you download the Internet several times over. |
| 04:34.15 | srg | I plan to download the internet exactly 3 times, to be specific |
| 04:34.22 | srg | (Thanks!) |
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| 04:35.16 | ryouma | how big is it? if you only do text and just crawl like google? |
| 04:35.24 | ryouma | oh, not a discussion channel |
| 04:35.47 | srg | Nah, I'm actually just setting up a tor node |
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| 04:36.33 | srg | 2^64 bytes = 16 EB, so that is plenty. If I transfer that much, I'll probably have an angry letter from the netadmin |
| 04:36.57 | ryouma | how come torbrowser-launcher in wheezy-backports is entirely broken and there are apparently no bug tracker entries for it? |
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| 04:37.30 | srg | ryouma: I don't know about wheezy-backports, but in Jessie, it's broken due to a GPG key change upstream. It was fixed on the github tracker and released, just hasn't made it to debian yet. |
| 04:38.11 | ryouma | yeah that |
| 04:38.14 | srg | See https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher/issues/164 |
| 04:38.28 | ryouma | so it just takes a few weeks? |
| 04:38.52 | srg | I'd imagine so. It's easy enough to download tbb manually though |
| 04:39.02 | srg | That's what I'm doing in the mean time |
| 04:39.08 | srg | doesn't require root or anything. |
| 04:39.16 | srg | Just verify those gpg sigs ;-) |
| 04:39.28 | ryouma | i found no option for just "do not upgrade" |
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| 04:52.53 | intx | is there anyway to speed up apt-get on an older machine? all ideas are welcome |
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| 05:14.22 | jelly | intx: depends on why it's slow. If there's not enough RAM, you can't do much. If the disk is slow with writes, eatmydata can help a bit |
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| 05:15.14 | jelly | but using eatmydata makes dpkg not safe on power-loss |
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| 05:28.14 | smithd | hi |
| 05:28.16 | smithd | OK, in what table or chain this has been dropped?: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=d2:d2:c2:82:8f:b2:fe:0c:1c:5b:c4:eb:08:00 SRC=192.168.15.101 DST=10.0.0.12 LEN=56 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=4950 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=50569 DPT=25 WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 |
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| 05:30.23 | Rusty1 | smithd: can also ask #netfilter, possibly with greater details |
| 05:30.48 | smithd | aha |
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| 05:35.59 | ryouma | does eatmydata speed up huge rsync operations? |
| 05:36.05 | ryouma | over usb2? |
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| 05:38.12 | themill | ryouma: it gets rid of the forced sync steps. IO still takes the same amount of time, it just takes place in the background instead. |
| 05:38.29 | ryouma | so sounds like not |
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| 05:39.29 | themill | depends what you mean by "speed up" |
| 05:40.08 | ryouma | oh, just hours to run rsync from internal to external |
| 05:40.14 | themill | The amount of time taken for a command prompt to come back is less; the amount of time for the data to hit the disk is about the same. |
| 05:40.26 | themill | yeah, for big transfers, it won't make any difference |
| 05:40.56 | ryouma | thinking of getting an adaptor |
| 05:45.20 | darthanubis | anyone getting issues with google gmail constantly asking for your password in gnome, and even giving it the password never sticks? |
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| 05:54.15 | SAKUJ0 | when i am using a backup tool like duplicity, what happens when files change during the update process? |
| 05:55.31 | SAKUJ0 | say it hits me exactly during an aptitude upgrade and half of my backup happens to be already upgraded while the upgrade of the other half is still pending |
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| 06:00.54 | ryouma | SAKUJ0: you need something like btrfs, zfs, or lvm if you really want atomicity |
| 06:02.00 | SAKUJ0 | i am just curious, honestly |
| 06:02.19 | SAKUJ0 | is it advised during the first full backup leaving the PC alone or can i continue setting up the server? |
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| 06:16.36 | daniel-s | Hello, does anyone get just an empty rectangle when they go here: http://timeline.debian.net/ |
| 06:16.38 | daniel-s | ? |
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| 06:19.11 | zvz | daniel-s: yes, in Iceweasel I get the same thing |
| 06:19.35 | zvz | and chromium as well |
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| 06:23.21 | daniel-s | zvz: Is that because the site is broken and doesn't work, or because it doesn't work for our browsers? |
| 06:23.41 | zvz | I couldn't tell ya |
| 06:24.02 | daniel-s | zvz: Can confirm that it doesn't work for Firefox and Opera on Windows. |
| 06:24.16 | zvz | it is also a blank page in w3m |
| 06:24.43 | zvz | and lynx :p |
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| 06:34.11 | inahd | hey guys, i was just trying to show a friend av linux, but when attempting to boot from USB, it gives the error: "no bootable partition table found (or something)" |
| 06:34.43 | inahd | i used unetbootin... |
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| 06:49.59 | aleion | Hi folks, I am new to debian and want to contribute. Can anyone tell me which version control system does debian use for creating patches? |
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| 07:13.41 | jhuebner | i know, he's gone. how hare can it be to type "debian contribution" into google and come up with https://wiki.debian.org/ProjectNews/HowToContribute ? |
| 07:13.50 | jhuebner | s/hare/hard |
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| 07:54.58 | BenLue | guten Morgen zusammen, meine Clients bekommen ein Lease, kommen jedoch aber nicht ins Internet! Meine Konfiguration: #/etc/network/interfaces http://paste.debian.net/144513/ #/etc/default/isc-dhcp-server http://paste.debian.net/144516/ #/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf http://paste.debian.net/144514/ #/etc/iptables/rules.v4 http://paste.debian.net/144515/ |
| 07:55.33 | BenLue | kann mir wer sagen woran es liegen könnte? |
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| 07:55.54 | jelly | !de |
| 07:55.54 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 07:56.39 | mjt | wow, that's a lot of info.. ;) |
| 07:56.55 | mjt | btw, who processes /etc/iptables/rules* files? |
| 07:58.06 | BenLue | good morning together, my clients become an lease, but they cant surf in the web! my config files: #/etc/network/interfaces http://paste.debian.net/144513/ #/etc/default/isc-dhcp-server http://paste.debian.net/144516/ #/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf http://paste.debian.net/144514/ #/etc/iptables/rules.v4 http://paste.debian.net/144515/ anyone ideas? |
| 07:58.12 | BenLue | mjt; iptables-persistent |
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| 07:59.12 | mjt | I always used a home-grown script for that, putting it to /etc/network/iptables |
| 08:00.37 | BenLue | mjt; isnt iptables-persistent working correct? |
| 08:01.08 | mjt | anyway, when dealing with network problems, the usual procedure is to check various layers of it one by one - ping/arp, name resolution, tcp outside |
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| 08:02.49 | BenLue | hmmm |
| 08:02.58 | mjt | "can't surf the web" is too vague (even if it's exactly how it looks like for the users). I've seen this resolved to "did you turn on your PC?" -- "Oh, damn, yes, you're right, it is turned off!" |
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| 08:03.13 | BenLue | lol |
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| 08:03.51 | mjt | does `ping www.debian.org' work from the client side? |
| 08:04.01 | BenLue | nope |
| 08:04.14 | mjt | ping <your.server.ip.address> ? |
| 08:04.20 | BenLue | only the GW1 inside the net |
| 08:04.21 | BenLue | Yes |
| 08:04.25 | BenLue | its working |
| 08:04.39 | mjt | ping <ip.add.ress.of.www.debian.org> ? |
| 08:04.50 | mjt | 130.89.148.14 |
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| 08:05.29 | BenLue | mope |
| 08:05.29 | mjt | "only the GW1 inside the net" -- what does it mean? |
| 08:05.47 | BenLue | we have some Gateways in our Net |
| 08:06.00 | mjt | and, how the first ping doesn't work - it can't resolve the name or can't actually ping, after successfully resolving it? |
| 08:07.06 | mjt | like, does it say "pinging 130.89.148.14.. no answer" or "www.debian.org: unknown host" ? |
| 08:07.59 | BenLue | Destination Host Unreachable |
| 08:08.17 | BenLue | with ping 130.89.148.14 |
| 08:08.24 | mjt | so name resolution works, but not ip connectivity |
| 08:08.37 | mjt | so the "only the GW1" is the most interesting part |
| 08:09.14 | mjt | if this GW1 is between your network and their machines, and it works (ping from it works) but not their machines, this is the problem place |
| 08:09.29 | BenLue | with ping www.debian.org cant find host www.debian.org |
| 08:09.41 | mjt | sorry? |
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| 08:10.16 | BenLue | ping with hostname istn working too |
| 08:10.24 | BenLue | *isnt |
| 08:10.42 | mjt | you just said it works |
| 08:11.06 | BenLue | ehhh no, sry |
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| 08:11.28 | mjt | I'm hungry, will go find some food first. laterz. |
| 08:11.39 | BenLue | hb |
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| 08:27.54 | eyebrowns | can someone help me make BMP3 image with transparency? i dont ahve such tools. this one please http://imgur.com/8jgBftS |
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| 09:01.58 | Waxhead | I am running Jessie, I used to be able to hibernate no matter what but after systemd upgrade his no longer seems to be the case. Is this a known bug, if not does this paste contain enough information to be useful? http://paste.debian.net/144525/ also I am not sure if this should be posted as a bug to systemd or another package. If I don't know what package to use in reportbug what should i do? |
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| 09:04.13 | nkuttler | Waxhead: considering khubd hangs that sounds more like a kernel problem |
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| 09:05.17 | Waxhead | nkuttler: any advice to how I can debug that? |
| 09:05.31 | nkuttler | Waxhead: no |
| 09:06.24 | Waxhead | nkuttler: hmmm fun.... |
| 09:06.32 | nkuttler | yeah.. systemd fun |
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| 09:12.46 | Halcyforn | hello i wanna instal debian on my dad laptop ( curently opensuse). What version debian have this: Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4 .This is need for last version video driver for amd hd 3200 and 4500. |
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| 09:16.42 | valdyn | Halcyforn: that looks like bogus requirements |
| 09:16.59 | valdyn | judd: versions xserver-xorg |
| 09:17.00 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:7.7+3~deb7u1; jessie: 1:7.7+7; sid: 1:7.7+7 |
| 09:17.32 | jelly | xserver-xorg-core will show server versions, valdyn |
| 09:17.41 | jelly | (1.12 in wheezy) |
| 09:17.42 | valdyn | judd: versions xserver-xorg-core |
| 09:17.43 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-security-lts: 2:1.7.7-18+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u5; wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u5; jessie: 2:1.16.2.901-1; sid: 2:1.16.2.901-1 |
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| 09:18.07 | Halcyforn | valdyn say this to ati. this is legacy driver. |
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| 09:18.28 | valdyn | Halcyforn: wheezy / latest stable should be ok for you |
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| 09:19.16 | jelly | however, if you need fglrx-legacy-driver, probably better to install it using Debian's packaging |
| 09:19.21 | Phagus | What's up with the Jessie repos? I'm gettting all of these connection refusal errors |
| 09:19.22 | valdyn | Halcyforn: yea, except that i dont believe the kernel really has to be "up to 3.4" |
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| 09:20.00 | Phagus | tried to apt-get xclip and got this: E: Failed to fetch http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/pool/main/x/xclip/xclip_0.12+svn84-4_amd64.deb Could not connect to debian.yorku.ca:80 (130.63.236.141). - connect (111: Connection refused) |
| 09:20.14 | jelly | valdyn: I'm not an ATI user, but I guess it's possible the driver breaks after a certain kernel version? |
| 09:20.17 | nkuttler | Phagus: sounds like your mirror is down |
| 09:20.21 | valdyn | Phagus: then use a mirror that works |
| 09:20.42 | nkuttler | !tell Phagus about jessie sources.list |
| 09:20.50 | valdyn | jelly: of course, but we dont know that fglrx is a hard requirement |
| 09:21.14 | Halcyforn | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.33 | valdyn | Halcyforn: maybe you will be better off using the free drivers anyway |
| 09:21.49 | Halcyforn | free drivers? this in system? |
| 09:22.02 | valdyn | Halcyforn: just try to install wheezy and see what you get |
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| 09:22.14 | valdyn | Halcyforn: the free driver is default. |
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| 09:22.34 | Halcyforn | yeach like always overheat. |
| 09:23.03 | Phagus | valdyn: Where is there a list of working mirrors? |
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| 09:24.40 | nkuttler | Phagus: check the message dpkg sent you |
| 09:24.48 | Phagus | Yeah it gave me a bogus link |
| 09:24.56 | Phagus | Then my fix didn't work to the link |
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| 09:25.12 | nkuttler | Phagus: huh? |
| 09:25.28 | Waxhead | Phagus: not really paying attention to the discussion here, but if you need to access the debian repos you can try http.debian.net |
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| 09:26.39 | Phagus | I'm trying to get working repo links for Debian to put in my sources.list |
| 09:26.58 | Phagus | dpkg told me to add this: deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main |
| 09:26.59 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Phagus |
| 09:26.59 | nkuttler | Phagus: you already said that. explain why the cdn repo link is bogus |
| 09:27.09 | Phagus | It failed. |
| 09:27.22 | Phagus | That link that d-pkg told me to add failed |
| 09:27.28 | nkuttler | Phagus: paste.debian.net the command you used, and the entire output |
| 09:27.38 | nkuttler | Phagus: and your /etc/apt/sources.list as well |
| 09:27.58 | Phagus | One sec |
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| 09:30.48 | Phagus | Wow |
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| 09:31.09 | Phagus | way to go, the paste thing cleared all of my preapred output |
| 09:32.25 | Phagus | Ok. I don't like debugging tools that are meant to help with debugging. Pasting this elsewhere on the internet |
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| 09:34.26 | Phagus | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/apXGGV3g |
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| 09:35.22 | nkuttler | Phagus: your network setup is broken |
| 09:35.40 | Phagus | Okay, how do I fix |
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| 09:39.33 | Phagus | nkuttler: How is it broken? I'm able to use wget and web browser. What is the issue? |
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| 09:41.10 | nkuttler | Phagus: well, for starters, it looks like apt is trying to use ipv6 |
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| 09:42.47 | dutchfish | Phagus, maybe your uplink supports both ipv4 and ipv6, but you havent dns resolving setup for both |
| 09:43.31 | Phagus | I'd rather stick to IPv4. Honestly I just plopped in the ISO and installed it in Vmware |
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| 09:43.54 | dutchfish | Phagus, then disable ipv6 on the host for now |
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| 09:45.18 | krypt0h_ | hi all. I have an XPS 13, and according to the wiki it should work with the nonfree iso but I can't get it to detect my wireles card. |
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| 09:46.05 | dutchfish | !tell krypt0h_ about wifi |
| 09:46.31 | krypt0h_ | intel 7260 |
| 09:46.35 | rozie | krypt0h_: does lspci display the card? on other distro (livecd)? |
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| 09:46.51 | krypt0h_ | yes, works fine in ubuntu/fedora |
| 09:47.20 | krypt0h_ | downloaded the specific firmware listed in the wiki page for the 9333 and installed the .deb and still no luck |
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| 09:47.31 | rozie | if you just want to install Debian, using debootstrap from liveCD can be easier |
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| 09:48.23 | krypt0h_ | I went ahead with the install, but besides installing the .deb for my wifi card I don't know what else I could do to get it working |
| 09:48.48 | dutchfish | krypt0h_, https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 09:49.01 | mjt | the fw should aslo be loaded not only installed |
| 09:49.14 | rozie | yep. check dmesg and lspci |
| 09:49.24 | mjt | is there an easy way to load it into hw? |
| 09:49.51 | mjt | lspci should list the card regardless of the firmware |
| 09:49.59 | krypt0h_ | dutchfish: that's the firmware I installed |
| 09:50.07 | krypt0h_ | how do I load it after instaling it mjt ? |
| 09:50.18 | krypt0h_ | i'll go ahead with the install and try that, thanks :) |
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| 09:51.13 | dutchfish | krypt0h_, normally it is loaded on boot, or by insmod (not the firmware but the driver) |
| 09:51.22 | mjt | insmod does not do that |
| 09:51.28 | mjt | oh yeah |
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| 09:51.53 | dutchfish | mjt, you load the driver, not the firmware, the driver pulls the firmware |
| 09:51.54 | mjt | but I don't know how to load fw at "late" runtime, that's why I asked |
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| 09:52.27 | dutchfish | mjt, in short you dont, it is autoloaded on boot |
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| 09:52.33 | mjt | lol |
| 09:53.33 | mjt | that's a catch-22 dutchfish |
| 09:53.41 | mjt | so there's no way to install debian on this hw |
| 09:53.44 | dutchfish | mjt, that is if you current kernel recognize the card |
| 09:54.03 | dutchfish | mjt, sure it can be done |
| 09:54.10 | mjt | following your way it can't be done |
| 09:54.27 | mjt | because on reboot - of the installer - there will be no fw deb installed |
| 09:54.28 | dutchfish | mjt, you prep a custom install with th driver and firware at hand for that specific card (see wiki) |
| 09:54.34 | mjt | yeah, custom install |
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| 09:54.39 | Hunterkll | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.54 | mjt | while actually, the whole thing is just 2 commands away without rebooting |
| 09:55.01 | mjt | 2 or so |
| 09:55.13 | dutchfish | mjt, sure, but that can give problems |
| 09:55.17 | Phagus | Okay, I disabled IPv6, and I'm still getting these repo errors in Jessie |
| 09:55.18 | mjt | there's a standard way to load fw by echoing somehting to /sys/devices/<$yourdevice>/firmware |
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| 09:55.24 | Hunterkll | I apologize for that |
| 09:55.26 | dutchfish | mjt, within the context of a fresh install |
| 09:55.28 | Hunterkll | accidental paste :/ |
| 09:55.48 | Phagus | Err http://debian.net jessie/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.62 80] |
| 09:55.50 | mjt | dutchfish: here we had a prob when the _installer_ can't install because there's no network |
| 09:55.51 | dutchfish | mjt, but loading driver for now manually is ok with insmod |
| 09:56.05 | mjt | yes, that's what I had in mind too |
| 09:56.07 | dutchfish | mjt, fair enough |
| 09:56.18 | mjt | I just don't remember how to tell the installer to re-configure network |
| 09:56.31 | mjt | note you have to _remove_ the module and load it again |
| 09:56.43 | mjt | for the fw to be loaded |
| 09:57.04 | dutchfish | mjt, in the past releases it was /etc/init.d/networking restart, but that is no longer valid i suppose |
| 09:57.26 | dutchfish | mjt, yes |
| 09:57.35 | mjt | installer procedure has several steps one of which is detect/configure networking -- that's what I mean |
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| 09:57.50 | mjt | anyway |
| 09:57.56 | dutchfish | yes, sure |
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| 10:03.47 | dutchfish | Phagus, can you again pastebin its outcome? does it still refer to ipv6? |
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| 10:05.30 | dutchfish | Phagus, sorry, overlooked your line |
| 10:05.50 | dutchfish | Phagus, it looks like there is no ipv4 connectivity |
| 10:06.14 | dutchfish | Phagus, setup vmware accordingly to do so |
| 10:06.50 | dutchfish | Phagus, assuming that there is ipv4 on your uplink |
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| 10:07.51 | Phagus | dutchfish: Host machine has IPv6/4 support, yes |
| 10:08.53 | dutchfish | Phagus, ok, and dns resolving is correct (i checked that) |
| 10:09.10 | dutchfish | Phagus, so, left to configure vmware for your hosts |
| 10:09.22 | dutchfish | s/hosts/vm's |
| 10:09.50 | dutchfish | then it should work |
| 10:10.11 | dutchfish | Phagus, also check your hosts firewall settings |
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| 10:10.31 | Phagus | See, all of my other VMs work just fine |
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| 10:10.40 | dutchfish | ok |
| 10:11.08 | Phagus | I don't know how to disable IPv6 for just this one guest |
| 10:11.32 | dutchfish | Phagus, either on the host or, within that vm |
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| 10:12.00 | dutchfish | Phagus, on the host is epxlained here https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 |
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| 10:13.00 | NemeSis | i have one question about freeradius, is there any document about :"radius authorization attributes" ??? |
| 10:13.02 | Phagus | I was here and followed the steps for https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 |
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| 10:13.10 | dutchfish | Phagus, ok |
| 10:13.14 | Phagus | I did step 1 and 2. I did not do that obscure "even better" part |
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| 10:13.23 | NemeSis | i have one question about freeradius, is there any document about :"radius authorization attributes" ??? |
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| 10:14.00 | dutchfish | Phagus, and you did run sysctl -p to activate the changes? |
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| 10:14.27 | Phagus | I didn't edit sysctl.conf |
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| 10:14.48 | Phagus | Mainly beacuse its not written clearly enough for me |
| 10:14.51 | dutchfish | Phagus, you altered grub? |
| 10:14.59 | Phagus | Yes |
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| 10:15.16 | dutchfish | Phagus, then you need to run update-grub |
| 10:15.27 | dutchfish | Phagus, changes will be in effect next boot |
| 10:15.42 | Phagus | I did and did |
| 10:15.47 | dutchfish | ok |
| 10:16.03 | dutchfish | can yo ping that ip (not by name)? |
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| 10:16.17 | dutchfish | within the vm? |
| 10:16.19 | NemeSis | i have one question about freeradius, is there any document about :"radius authorization attributes" ??? |
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| 10:17.56 | Phagus | dutchfish: Pinging that IP does not work |
| 10:18.18 | dutchfish | Phagus, ok, can you ping one of th eother vm's or the host itself? |
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| 10:18.59 | Phagus | Yep. Google, Yahoo, 8.8.8.8 all right |
| 10:19.01 | Phagus | all work* |
| 10:19.39 | dutchfish | Phagus, no, i ment can you ping the host or one of the other vm's? |
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| 10:20.24 | Phagus | Oh one sec |
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| 10:21.19 | NemeSis | i have one question about freeradius, is there any document about :"radius authorization attributes" ??? |
| 10:21.21 | Phagus | Pinging the host works. Pinging my Arch virtualmachine works |
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| 10:21.45 | dutchfish | Phagus, then there is one thing left to check, and thats your firewall setup |
| 10:21.53 | ghost75_ | on jessie i had crash during install with cd on asm1061 controller, is this known to have problems? |
| 10:22.09 | ghost75_ | https://public.bl3302.livefilestore.com/y2p71vI76prV6ZcuONH0rdGfee0S9oz2D1t-3mXJQe9xmXG3zzYiKs3BNrgAAyDY4JNhnbjxG1AhEgPgD3a1CfEC8iduamdO_qVG8pDpDR6C5E/P2080990.jpg?psid=1 |
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| 10:22.14 | dutchfish | Phagus, assuming that you have disabled ipv6 by now |
| 10:22.24 | NemeSis | authorization attributesi have one question about freeradius, is there any document about :"radius authorization attributes" ??? |
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| 10:22.31 | dutchfish | Phagus, and checked it in ifconfig |
| 10:23.03 | ghost75_ | should i do bugreport? |
| 10:23.55 | dutchfish | Phagus, fyi, i had this issue myself many times in vmware, where the host blocks ipv4 |
| 10:23.56 | Phagus | Okay, what am I looking for in my ifconfig? I don't see any IPv6 addrs |
| 10:24.17 | dutchfish | Phagus, ok, thats good |
| 10:24.18 | Phagus | dutchfish: ah okay.. Its really frustrating. Especially since I'm doing all this work just to develope in one python library |
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| 10:24.35 | dutchfish | Phagus, yes |
| 10:25.14 | dutchfish | Phagus, have you checked if you got access to one of the other mirrors |
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| 10:26.51 | dutchfish | Phagus, can you reach ftp.nl.debian.org as an example? |
| 10:27.00 | Phagus | Ping it? |
| 10:27.07 | dutchfish | Phagus, yes |
| 10:27.16 | Phagus | Okay so it resolves the IP address, but now it's just kinda hanging |
| 10:27.51 | dutchfish | Phagus, i think there is a firewall problem, sinc you can ping others out there on the net |
| 10:28.08 | Phagus | Very uncool. |
| 10:28.22 | dutchfish | Phagus, ftp.nl.debian.org should resolve to 130.89.149.21 |
| 10:28.23 | Phagus | Well, Kivy installs and runs just fine in Arch linux. I think I'm just going to ditch Jessie then |
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| 10:28.35 | Phagus | Yes I got that |
| 10:28.46 | Phagus | PING ftp.nl.debian.org (130.89.149.21) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 10:29.29 | dutchfish | Phagos, ok, i dont believe the problem is in the vm, just inside vmware or your host |
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| 10:30.35 | dutchfish | Phagus, but i have no idea what went wrong there |
| 10:30.48 | Phagus | Honestly, I just went with all the default settings at the installer |
| 10:31.12 | Phagus | But then I followed these steps: |
| 10:31.19 | Phagus | http://kivy.org/docs/installation/installation-linux.html#debian-jessie-or-newer |
| 10:31.22 | Phagus | Maybe this broke something? |
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| 10:31.40 | dutchfish | Phagus, are you running jessie or stable atm? |
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| 10:31.55 | dutchfish | Phagus, or accidently mixed the 2 |
| 10:32.13 | Phagus | uname -a says: Linux deb-jessie 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:33.53 | dutchfish | Phagus, did you choose the stable build or the daily in there? |
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| 10:34.06 | Phagus | Oh sorry |
| 10:34.07 | Phagus | Stable |
| 10:34.16 | Phagus | Jessie/Testing, stable builds |
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| 10:34.35 | dutchfish | Phagus, rem since this is all 'testing' you might try again with the daily |
| 10:34.47 | dutchfish | Phagus, or ask the fora in there |
| 10:34.57 | Phagus | Ehhhhhhhhgghh... Well, thanks for you help but |
| 10:35.03 | Phagus | Screw it, lol. |
| 10:35.10 | dutchfish | right |
| 10:35.12 | Phagus | I got Kivy working in Arch Linux |
| 10:35.21 | Phagus | I owe you a beer though for that! |
| 10:35.27 | Phagus | That was alot of running around you did |
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| 10:35.45 | dutchfish | Phagus, stop ranting, go fixing it, if you are a real man |
| 10:36.22 | Phagus | Nah it's not worth it. I have my whole IDE set up on Arch Linux now :-) |
| 10:36.40 | Phagus | I shall return to Jessie someday |
| 10:36.47 | dutchfish | Phagus, again, this is all testing currently, and it is outside's debian support anyway, have a nice day |
| 10:37.39 | Phagus | Yeah I figured as much. Thanks for your help |
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| 10:37.45 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 10:38.56 | Geraldus | Hi folks! |
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| 10:40.13 | Geraldus | Is there some linux commands to get current X keyboard config, i.e. actual parameters passed to setxkbmap? |
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| 10:41.12 | mjt | xkbcomp |
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| 10:42.12 | mjt | hmm. I don't remember |
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| 10:43.03 | BenLue | mjt; its working now |
| 10:43.14 | mjt | what was the problem? |
| 10:43.48 | BenLue | /etc/dnsmasq.d/rules wasnt configurated correct |
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| 10:44.12 | mjt | giving wrong ip addresses to clients? |
| 10:44.49 | BenLue | nope. server=213.73.91.35@tun0 # dnscache.berlin.ccc.de |
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| 10:45.00 | BenLue | DNS Server wasnt working |
| 10:45.11 | mjt | ok! |
| 10:45.47 | BenLue | replace with other fav. DNS Server and now ist working fine |
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| 10:47.07 | BenLue | mjt; Have you found something to eat? :P |
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| 10:50.04 | GNU\colossus | on jessie, when using mpv with the packaged Lua extension to auto-crop (/usr/share/doc/mpv/examples/lua/autocrop.lua), pressing C (for invoking the autocrop magic) yields thefollowing error: |
| 10:50.08 | GNU\colossus | [autocrop] No crop data. Was the cropdetect filter successfully inserted? |
| 10:50.09 | GNU\colossus | [autocrop] Does your version of ffmpeg/libav support AVFrame metadata? |
| 10:50.16 | GNU\colossus | how can I check the latter? |
| 10:50.49 | GNU\colossus | the video material has a large, mostly-black border. mplayer with "-vf dropdetect" used to be able to determine the correct settings for "-vf crop=..." in that case |
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| 10:52.48 | Geraldus | `xkbcomp` is to compile keyboard description, not sure what that means though |
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| 11:00.00 | Geraldus | ok, this one prints **current** layout code `$(xset -q|grep LED| awk '{ print $10 }')` |
| 11:00.14 | Geraldus | found it here http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/27688/94741 |
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| 11:01.30 | mjt | that line prints 00000000 here :) |
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| 11:01.44 | mjt | (which is the LED mask) |
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| 11:03.16 | lore20 | Hello everybody: I have started working with minimal debian chroot jail instances and as a beginner I have a probably silly question, but google and man pages didn't help (I only found some documentation about Freebsd that I don't think applies to linux): if I want to mount inside the chroot only a limited devfs (null, random, urandom, ...) to avoid giving access to the disk/network devices and to the host syslog socket, what should |
| 11:03.45 | lore20 | I'm looking for a safer/cleaner alternative to mount --bind /dev/ $chroot/dev |
| 11:04.04 | nkuttler | why is binding unsafe/unclean? |
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| 11:04.24 | mjt | bind-mounting is very clean but very unsafe :) |
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| 11:05.17 | lore20 | yes.. the actually the only unclean thing is that i get syslog filled with messages from any chroot, I would like to run a separate instance of syslogd inside some chroots |
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| 11:05.54 | tremon | I think you will need to create your own then. Mount a new tmpfs, and manually create the device nodes that you need |
| 11:05.55 | lore20 | and to avoid mounting some block devices |
| 11:06.20 | mjt | maybe something like lxc will serve you better than plain chroot |
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| 11:06.38 | tremon | there still is makedev btw |
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| 11:07.02 | mjt | it is enough to just copy the needed devices from the host |
| 11:07.03 | detha | ehm, what prevents something running with UID 0 in the chroot from creating the block device nodes you don't want it to see anyway? |
| 11:07.13 | mjt | cp -a /dev/tty? /chroot/dev/ etc |
| 11:07.23 | mjt | detha: nothing |
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| 11:07.34 | mjt | hence I mentioned lxc |
| 11:07.47 | Geraldus | mjt: oh, thank you. Looks like this cheap trick reads LED indicators state, but not layout itself |
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| 11:08.53 | mjt | Geraldus: there was some command to "compile" a run-time map into useful text representation, I think it is xkbcomp, but now when I looked at the options I'm not sure anymore |
| 11:09.17 | Geraldus | in the end I just want to use Win+Space to swicth my kbd layout instead of Alt+Shift [1](http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28386117/xmonad-how-to-bind-super-win-key-space-to-keyboard-layout-switch/28387105#28387105) |
| 11:09.57 | lore20 | yes, try to avoide starting process with UID=0 in the chroot, but any UID != 0 would have at least read access unless I chmod them also in the host |
| 11:10.16 | mjt | Geraldus: can't you choose that key combination in keyboard-configuration? |
| 11:10.21 | lore20 | (ok my message wasn't to clear) |
| 11:10.46 | Geraldus | my fish shell prompts me that xkbcomp is tool to compile kdb map indeed |
| 11:10.46 | mjt | lore20: it was clear enough :) |
| 11:11.02 | Geraldus | but it want's to have some file as input |
| 11:11.14 | lore20 | I'll check the solution you proposed, thank you! :) |
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| 11:11.28 | tremon | xkbcomp can also export the current kbd map iirc (-e?) |
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| 11:11.54 | mjt | lore20: the simplest way is to create the /chroot/dev manually by copying just a subset of devices from /dev/ |
| 11:12.14 | Geraldus | mjt: I'm not sure I have keyboard-configuration app at all (if I've unterstood you are talking about GUI app) |
| 11:12.23 | tremon | hmm... or not. maybe I'm misremembering |
| 11:12.40 | mjt | lore20: you'll need some basic devices like null, zero, tty, ..., and whatever else your apps will need |
| 11:12.54 | mjt | Geraldus: it is a package. dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
| 11:13.05 | pessoa | keyboiard for X11 or for the virtual console? |
| 11:13.19 | Geraldus | mjt let me check |
| 11:13.20 | mjt | pessoa: in debian it is handled in one place |
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| 11:14.08 | pessoa | so xbindkeys has got an effect on the virtual console? |
| 11:14.36 | mjt | no, xbindkeys isn't used by default |
| 11:14.55 | mjt | but indeed you can use that one to |
| 11:14.56 | mjt | to |
| 11:14.58 | mjt | too |
| 11:15.00 | mjt | damn :) |
| 11:15.51 | Geraldus | mjt: well, there is no option Win+Space, only single Win keys offered |
| 11:16.02 | mjt | I see |
| 11:16.31 | hassoon | d'oh |
| 11:16.44 | Geraldus | anyway, this helped a bit (: at least now how can I configure keyboard using dpkg |
| 11:16.44 | hassoon | i have been installing debian over [Cpxe LAN, then my mother just cut off power in the middle of the installation :s |
| 11:17.06 | hassoon | is there a way to resume the installation from that phase? |
| 11:17.26 | hassoon | is there a way to resume the installation from that phase? |
| 11:17.32 | hassoon | oh dear |
| 11:17.37 | hassoon | paste fail |
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| 11:17.52 | lore20 | mjt: ok thank you.. I think for the moment I'll try with some mknod |
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| 11:20.05 | lore20 | i don't think there is any difference if mknod is run from inside or outside the chroot? right? |
| 11:20.34 | pessoa | so I can actually disable the capslock on teh virtual console by using xbindkeys? I would nopt want all x bindings work on the virtual console, though |
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| 11:24.04 | hassoon | okey gentlemen, i restarted a past interrupted pxe install of debian, and it tells me to go back and erase/format the target file system before proceeding the install(since it contains files of the said past uncompleted installation), wouldn't ignoring that and moving on restores the installation from the point where the pc got shut down ? |
| 11:24.48 | ompaul | hassoon: there is no provision for doing a partial install. |
| 11:25.03 | hassoon | ompaul: sorry what dp you mean |
| 11:25.17 | hassoon | i should just erase things and restart the whole installation from 0 ? |
| 11:25.48 | ompaul | hassoon: installs are meant to be completed in one sitting, configuration is another things. |
| 11:25.53 | ompaul | s/things/thing/ |
| 11:25.56 | Dagger | Phagus, dutchfish: when you see apt-get reporting v6 errors, it usually means a) the host has no global v6 (so disabling v6 won't do anything useful), and b) something is broken on the v4 side |
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| 11:26.55 | ompaul | hassoon: if you don't have the time for such an event you need to look at a different install, perhaps a dvd image on a usb stick |
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| 11:27.11 | Dagger | apt-get only reports the last connection error. for a host with global v6, v6 will be tried first, so the last error will be on v4. for a host with no global v6, v4 will be tried first (which is failing in this case) and v6 last |
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| 11:27.19 | ompaul | hassoon: as you are aware there are many ways to install debian (given you found that odd shaped one ;-)) |
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| 11:27.31 | hassoon | ompaul: installing a full-featured debian iso/dvd over pxe LAN? :-O |
| 11:27.31 | Dagger | i.e. please don't tell people to disable v6 just because there's a v6 address in apt-get's error message |
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| 11:28.42 | hassoon | ompaul: yeah i got a desktop that has a malfunctioning CD Reader yet a bunch of USB ports unable to boot, but it got the PXE booting functionality :> |
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| 11:29.27 | hassoon | and i need to install debian in that desktop |
| 11:29.46 | hassoon | so yeah, here I am doing it from my other laptop using a configured pxe server |
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| 11:30.27 | ompaul | so do it in one sitting |
| 11:30.44 | hassoon | ompaul: okey, redo the whole thing from 0, you mean \o/ |
| 11:31.20 | ompaul | I do |
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| 11:38.14 | mnms_ | is there any way to change root shell if I changed it to dev null from another account which is in sudoers file |
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| 11:40.03 | ompaul | mnms_: your question doesn't tell us if you changed /etc/passwd or sudoers |
| 11:40.11 | ompaul | or did something else |
| 11:40.39 | mnms_ | ompaul: I did chsh -s /dev/null root |
| 11:41.19 | mnms_ | sudo chsh ... |
| 11:41.36 | ompaul | mnms_: I'd turn off the machine and mount the box using a live cd |
| 11:41.44 | ompaul | given you can't get a shell now |
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| 11:42.16 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:43.23 | mnms_ | ompaul: I was experimenting |
| 11:43.24 | mnms_ | :) |
| 11:43.30 | SynrGy | yes. i think you should get a medal |
| 11:43.46 | SynrGy | a foot-shaped trophy with a hole in it |
| 11:43.56 | ompaul | mnms_: you should read man pages before you do --- man chsh |
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| 11:46.15 | mnms_ | ompaul: Mhm.. |
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| 11:46.42 | mnms_ | I see I can do anything with superuser privileges using sudo beside changing shell |
| 11:46.57 | woshty | why does xz -C req an arg if supposedly |
| 11:47.02 | ompaul | mnms: there are many ways to break a computer beyond repair |
| 11:47.08 | woshty | crc64 is the default? |
| 11:47.31 | ompaul | mnms_: which is why learning things the right way and reading about defensive administration and playing in vms is more sensible :) |
| 11:47.47 | mnms_ | ompaul: Who said I dont use vms :) |
| 11:48.02 | ompaul | virtual machines not VMS |
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| 11:48.42 | mnms_ | I mean virtual machines too |
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| 11:50.29 | ghost75_ | when i plan to use the final jessie later, should i install the beta or the snapshot version? |
| 11:50.38 | winterss | hi |
| 11:51.09 | ompaul | ghost75_: then use the final version |
| 11:51.31 | ghost75_ | but i install it now and dont want to reinstall |
| 11:51.32 | ompaul | ghost75_: if you are installing it now, do it right by installing stable and doing a d-u |
| 11:51.44 | ompaul | the other method is for testing the installer |
| 11:51.47 | ghost75_ | i will not install any wheezy |
| 11:51.59 | ompaul | ghost75_: well you've been told |
| 11:52.07 | ghost75_ | pls answer my question |
| 11:52.11 | ompaul | I did |
| 11:52.15 | ompaul | I told you how to do it right. |
| 11:52.31 | ghost75_ | no, i want to know if the snapshot version is already ahead where the final will be |
| 11:52.47 | ompaul | how could it be, final isn't finished |
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| 11:53.03 | ghost75_ | there is a freeze |
| 11:53.27 | ompaul | freeze is about bug squashing and getting a release ready. |
| 11:53.44 | ghost75_ | the freeze also applies to snapshot? |
| 11:53.46 | ompaul | if you want to know the supported way do it the way I said, anything else may not work. |
| 11:53.59 | ompaul | what is a snapshot? |
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| 11:54.10 | ompaul | it is an image at a point in time |
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| 11:54.32 | ghost75_ | latest weekly build http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 11:54.36 | ompaul | if it was finished there would be a release |
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| 11:55.17 | ompaul | that shows the point at which is it prepared, it may not even boot due to bugs, so the supported way is stable -> testing |
| 11:55.21 | ompaul | which is what you are talking about |
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| 11:55.37 | Waxhead | ghost75_: I don't really want to be part of this discussino but I can't help myself... you are wasting more time discussing this than actually just doing it right like ompaul suggested. Just had to get that off my chest. |
| 11:55.40 | ompaul | you can try it |
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| 11:55.54 | ompaul | but it is not the right way to do it |
| 11:56.08 | ghost75_ | i didnt ask anything about what is supported, please acknowledge that |
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| 11:56.25 | ompaul | the right / therefore supported way has been said, you can try anything else |
| 11:56.33 | ompaul | but you are not doing it the supported way |
| 11:56.46 | ghost75_ | i dont ask about anything supported |
| 11:56.55 | ompaul | please feel free to use it and then report any bugs BUT |
| 11:57.00 | ompaul | it's not the best way |
| 11:57.32 | ompaul | you can install a very minimal stable from the netinstall and then later (i.e. on testing) use tasksel to sort out what desktop and other things you want |
| 11:58.39 | ompaul | but don't ask anyone here to support you if the installer doesn't boot |
| 11:58.50 | ompaul | so do as you want |
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| 11:59.27 | ompaul | notes that is as close to a concession as I'll go on this one |
| 11:59.48 | ghost75_ | who said this channel is only about stable |
| 12:00.02 | ompaul | !debian-next |
| 12:00.02 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 12:00.11 | ghost75_ | k |
| 12:00.18 | ompaul | but I'll tell you the same thing there |
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| 12:00.53 | ompaul | feel free to test the testing installer and file reports against it - but don't come crying if it fails |
| 12:01.03 | ompaul | and often times it does |
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| 12:01.34 | ghost75_ | i am using it already on few boxes |
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| 12:02.05 | ompaul | so your question is kind of moot, you have a way |
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| 12:18.44 | f10 | my external monitor (vga connection) stays off after resume on a thinkpad t410s. it worked for years and suddenly stopped working. also after a shutdown the machine doesn't turn off anymore. I'm runnind debian testing/sid. Any ideas hot to fix this? |
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| 12:19.46 | macrobat | f10: try #debian-next on the oftc network |
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| 12:36.06 | phix | hey gang! |
| 12:36.12 | phix | Who's up for some Jessie? |
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| 12:36.35 | pessoa | what? Jessie is declared stable? |
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| 12:37.38 | pessoa | at least it is not named for Disney's Jessie |
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| 12:39.11 | Busserl | f10: look at creating a service file for systemd maybe. |
| 12:39.13 | ger1e | I'm a newbie user, thinking about upgrading to Sid. |
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| 12:39.19 | ger1e | Should I? |
| 12:40.12 | pessoa | I won't upgrade anything until Jessie is stable |
| 12:40.51 | Busserl | f10: I found that re-executing a xrandr command for multiple monitor setup resets them correctly, and you mey only need to do this automatically after resume. |
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| 12:41.56 | nkuttler | ger1e: do you have any experience with other linux distros? |
| 12:42.26 | phix | pessoa: it is frozen, good enough for me |
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| 12:42.37 | phix | pessoa: what is Disney's Jessie? |
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| 12:42.44 | Komanda | E: Unable to locate package libvirt |
| 12:42.45 | f10 | Busserl: what's the command? |
| 12:43.06 | pessoa | Jessie is a show on the Disney channel |
| 12:43.12 | nkuttler | Komanda: apt-cache search libvirt |
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| 12:43.22 | phix | ger1e: just use Ubuntu, that is debian sid on steriouds |
| 12:43.25 | phix | steriods* |
| 12:43.30 | f10 | Busserl: I would be happy if I could tell the external screen to wtfu |
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| 12:44.01 | Komanda | nkuttler: wich one should i pcik? |
| 12:44.51 | nkuttler | Komanda: what are you trying to do? just install virt-manager and be done with it? |
| 12:46.13 | Busserl | f10: I meant the one for enabling multimonitor output, for example xrandr --output ... --output --auto --right-of ... etc. When I disconnect a monitor, I can still move my mouse to the invisible desktop area. When I issue the same xrandr command, it automatically detects the disconnected monitor and disables the desktop area as wel. |
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| 12:47.55 | phix | f10: How's your neighbours? |
| 12:48.09 | Busserl | f10: So in my case it is pretty easy to fix the desktop area by using the same command, whenever I connect or disconnect a monitor. I am not saying this is the only possibility. |
| 12:48.30 | Busserl | *way |
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| 12:51.52 | ninahm | Hello I was wondering if you could help. I am trying to open vlc as a different user from the terminal. It's working fine if I open the video as the current user with vlc video.mp4. When using su otherUser and using the same command, the video output always fails. Any idea? |
| 12:52.02 | f10 | phix: what? |
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| 12:52.22 | phix | f10: Your neighbours, F9 and F11 |
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| 12:52.51 | nkuttler | phix: if you have no technical questions or want to help, please use #debian-offtopic |
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| 12:53.24 | ger1e | phix Ubuntu seems to me like it's for kids |
| 12:53.26 | ger1e | And I'm 23 |
| 12:53.37 | ger1e | Still a kid at heart though |
| 12:53.41 | ger1e | so I might give it a shot |
| 12:53.42 | ger1e | :D |
| 12:53.45 | nkuttler | !tell ninahm about sux |
| 12:53.58 | phix | nkuttler: When did you become cheeser?? |
| 12:54.31 | phix | ger1e: Nope, Ubuntu is just refined and aimed towards desktop and newer packages |
| 12:54.43 | phix | ger1e: I am 31, now what? |
| 12:54.47 | nkuttler | phix: also this is not the right place to market ubuntu |
| 12:54.47 | phix | :) |
| 12:54.57 | pessoa | ubuntu makes it much harder to avoid non-free software |
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| 12:55.28 | phix | pessoa: no it doesn't, they just make non-free software available if you want to use it, you don't have to use it |
| 12:56.16 | phix | pessoa: debian takes on a nazi view of free software, metaphorically of course |
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| 12:56.32 | macrobat | why not kick phix? |
| 12:56.36 | ger1e | i'm in love with nazi uniforms |
| 12:56.44 | ger1e | hugo boss $$$$ |
| 12:56.47 | macrobat | and ger1e |
| 12:56.49 | phix | ger1e: You like the leather pants?? |
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| 12:56.54 | ger1e | why kick me? |
| 12:56.59 | phix | macrobat: ssshhh |
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| 12:57.08 | ger1e | macrobat why so mean. |
| 12:57.09 | phix | free as in freedom of speech |
| 12:57.12 | phix | not beer |
| 12:57.19 | ger1e | Phix nah the hats and leather jackets! |
| 12:57.26 | ger1e | The long sleeve ones |
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| 12:57.32 | phix | ger1e: ah, hugo bausss! |
| 12:57.52 | phix | but yes macrobat is right, we should take this to the offtopic channel now |
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| 12:58.03 | phix | see you there |
| 12:58.05 | ger1e | ok |
| 12:58.06 | ger1e | kk |
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| 13:16.24 | __mel | Hi. i try to increase the nofile value via imits.conf on wheezy. the entry is simply "root - nofile 6400". After rebooting sshd shows only 1024/4096 via "cat /proc/<id>/limits. "ulimit -a" on cmdline shows the correct valu |
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| 13:18.04 | phix | hyperthermia or hypothermia |
| 13:18.28 | turtlehat | hello, how do i make my system automatically login at the command line? |
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| 13:18.59 | phix | turtlehat: you don't, it is a security breach |
| 13:19.08 | phix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:19.19 | phix | turtlehat: you can make stuff happen in the background at startup though |
| 13:20.51 | turtlehat | security is not a concern |
| 13:21.10 | turtlehat | its not a networked machine |
| 13:21.18 | phix | turtlehat: oh, can I have your credit card number, expiry date and csc number thnx? |
| 13:21.29 | turtlehat | thanks for not being a dick about this |
| 13:21.39 | phix | any time buddy |
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| 13:22.29 | phix | but really, what is your use case? You say you want to login automatically into a console but what are you really trying to achieve? |
| 13:23.10 | turtlehat | to make it run a program that takes input from the keyboard without having to login first |
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| 13:23.27 | turtlehat | embedded applicationo |
| 13:23.34 | __mel | turtlehat: you can change the inittab to autologin with agetty |
| 13:23.48 | turtlehat | all right, thanks ill have a look |
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| 13:23.51 | phix | turtlehat: ok, what is a fair enough usecase |
| 13:23.59 | phix | s/w/t/ |
| 13:24.01 | __mel | like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3150425/how-to-start-a-linux-shell-as-from-etc-inittab |
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| 13:24.46 | nkuttler | turtlehat: notice that inittab is obsolete once you'll upgrade to systemd |
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| 13:25.02 | alipoor90 | Hi, what is the difference between deadline and noop schedulers? which is better choice for SSD? |
| 13:25.18 | turtlehat | nkuttler, im not sure it will be upgraded once it works ;) |
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| 13:25.29 | turtlehat | thanks for the pointers all |
| 13:26.04 | phix | turtlehat: any time buddy |
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| 13:26.17 | turtlehat | not you, phix o_O |
| 13:26.26 | phix | turtlehat: that was quite rude mate |
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| 13:26.41 | turtlehat | i know, i still wonder why you did it |
| 13:26.57 | phix | turtlehat: you're doing that thing are ya |
| 13:27.03 | phix | turning it around and what not |
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| 13:27.25 | turtlehat | yes, the flippetyfloppety |
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| 13:32.15 | Komanda | i'm virtualizing debian with qemu |
| 13:32.18 | Komanda | qemu |
| 13:32.24 | Komanda | wan't to get a terminal going |
| 13:32.28 | phix | nice |
| 13:32.35 | Komanda | what would be the quickest .iso to make that happen |
| 13:32.36 | Komanda | ? |
| 13:32.52 | Komanda | only need to debug some netwwork settings |
| 13:32.55 | nkuttler | Komanda: do you already have debian installed? |
| 13:33.09 | Komanda | nope, don't want to wait for a full install |
| 13:33.20 | nkuttler | are you looking for a live cd? |
| 13:33.21 | Komanda | currently booting debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
| 13:33.32 | nkuttler | that's perfect, use that to install debian |
| 13:33.32 | Komanda | can i run that as live cd |
| 13:33.36 | nkuttler | no |
| 13:33.40 | Komanda | nah don't want to wait for install |
| 13:33.47 | nkuttler | !tell Komanda about debian-live |
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| 13:36.04 | Komanda | nkuttler: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/?C=S;O=A |
| 13:36.12 | Komanda | they all look so small |
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| 13:36.38 | Komanda | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.8.0-i386-standard.iso |
| 13:36.52 | Komanda | that one is plain vanilla right? |
| 13:37.27 | nkuttler | Komanda: i don't use live images, but i would think so |
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| 13:37.37 | nkuttler | no gui |
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| 13:38.01 | Komanda | hmm |
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| 13:38.07 | Komanda | i wan't to use http://cloudfront.debian.org as mirror |
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| 13:38.19 | Komanda | http://cloudfront.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.8.0-i386-standard.iso |
| 13:38.21 | Komanda | doesn't work |
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| 13:38.53 | jpadavan | Hellow! what is a full-good tutorial for network administration in Debian? Who to vpn, iptable, tunnel, etc... |
| 13:39.00 | nkuttler | Komanda: i've never seen debian use cloudfront |
| 13:39.18 | phix | nkuttler: aws does that |
| 13:39.27 | Komanda | badwidth charge |
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| 13:39.37 | nkuttler | phix: what does that have to do with debian |
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| 13:39.55 | phix | nkuttler: you can run debian on aws |
| 13:40.19 | Komanda | appearantly http://cloudfront.debian.net/ |
| 13:40.57 | nkuttler | Komanda: so get your isos there |
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| 13:41.23 | Komanda | nkuttler: i assumed it was .org, didn't know it was .net |
| 13:41.31 | Komanda | now it works :3 |
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| 13:42.26 | Komanda | wtf is live 486, 686 pae etc? |
| 13:42.33 | phix | Komanda: CPU archs |
| 13:42.43 | phix | Komanda: like MIPS and ARM |
| 13:43.17 | Komanda | but i downloaded a i386 live cd |
| 13:43.19 | phix | Komanda: but different versions of intel arch |
| 13:43.26 | phix | with flags and what not |
| 13:43.29 | phix | Komanda: ok |
| 13:44.02 | Komanda | so wich one should i go for |
| 13:44.42 | Komanda | the first one, fuck it |
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| 13:45.30 | Komanda | looking on the wikipedia page of the argitecture i'm using, that shit is 40 year old |
| 13:45.52 | nkuttler | Komanda: what cpu do you have? |
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| 13:46.19 | nkuttler | Komanda: if you don't know, just use i386 |
| 13:47.16 | rozie | Komanda: grep --color " lm " /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 13:47.35 | rozie | if lm flag is present, you can safely use amd64 |
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| 13:48.34 | Komanda | i686 booted fine |
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| 13:49.14 | phix | Komanda: depends on the computer you are using |
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| 13:49.37 | phix | Komanda: if you are using a 1995 PC then probably the i486 or i586 |
| 13:49.44 | Komanda | lol no |
| 13:49.49 | NemeSis | authorization attributesi have one question about freeradius, is there any document about :"radius authorization attributes" ??? |
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| 14:02.26 | hassoon | what arethe packages i need to make my ati X1600 work at its best performances |
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| 14:02.38 | hassoon | excluidng the so-called fglrx |
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| 14:02.49 | hassoon | excluding* |
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| 14:03.35 | towo` | hassoon, there is no fglrx anymore for that card |
| 14:03.57 | hassoon | towo`: yeah let's deak with the open source ones then |
| 14:04.00 | hassoon | *deal* |
| 14:04.03 | towo` | hassoon, so you only need firmware-linux-nonfree, xserver-xorg-video-ati and mesa |
| 14:04.11 | hassoon | towo`: alright, thanks |
| 14:04.37 | Komanda | does this look normal? |
| 14:04.46 | Komanda | first screenshot is the host & second is the guest vm |
| 14:04.50 | Komanda | http://imgur.com/ahZd1xV,jivFfj9 |
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| 14:05.56 | nafac | how to stfu? ._. |
| 14:06.05 | nafac | I'm tired of sharing.. |
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| 14:06.47 | turtleding | hello. im not sure whether i undestand release based distros. is it possible to securly upgrade without reinstalling the full distro? |
| 14:06.51 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, is there a log file that records all closed / killed processes of the system? |
| 14:06.55 | turtleding | +correctly^^ |
| 14:07.11 | ger1e | turtleding yes just edit your sources.config |
| 14:07.28 | ToApolytoXaos | turtleding: i'm doing this since 2005 |
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| 14:08.42 | turtleding | ger1e: ToApolytoXaos but is this considered secure, respectively is that the "normal" way? |
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| 14:09.26 | abrotman | turtleding: yes, the release notes cover this |
| 14:09.38 | ToApolytoXaos | as far as i know there's no such thing as security lol |
| 14:09.55 | abrotman | ToApolytoXaos: wtf |
| 14:09.56 | ToApolytoXaos | i'm using testing for ages now and follow the update flow |
| 14:10.00 | turtleding | abrotman: thx |
| 14:10.20 | ToApolytoXaos | what abrotman? |
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| 14:12.14 | hassoon | towo`: what about glx-alternative-mesa and glx-alternative-fglrx ? |
| 14:12.28 | towo` | what should be with that? |
| 14:12.53 | towo` | since you can't use fglrx, you wouldn't need those packages |
| 14:13.06 | hassoon | ah they rely on fglrx in the first place? |
| 14:13.18 | hassoon | even glx-alternative-mesa ? |
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| 14:13.53 | towo` | hassoon, <ou don't need a alternative with only mesa installed |
| 14:14.03 | towo` | should be clear |
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| 14:16.13 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks |
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| 14:17.45 | SquirrelCZECH | poll <server> with proto POP3 port 110 user '<email>' there with password '<password>' is '<local_user>' here options flush mda 'formail -b | /usr/bin/procmail procmail-ip' | this fecthmail config worries me because I am not exactly sure about the "flush" option here |
| 14:17.59 | SquirrelCZECH | does it flush emails on the pop3 server it connects to? |
| 14:18.01 | SquirrelCZECH | or localy? |
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| 14:34.03 | shay_shay | i just used the weirdest command |
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| 14:34.10 | shay_shay | apt-get install $(aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p) |
| 14:34.14 | shay_shay | lmao |
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| 14:34.33 | BenLue | i need to install fastd http://paste.debian.net/144552/ |
| 14:34.56 | BenLue | E: Package 'libjson-c2' has no installation candidate |
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| 14:35.19 | BenLue | but libjson-c2 is listed on https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libjson-c2 |
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| 14:36.16 | BenLue | anyone ideas were can i get the package libjson-c2 |
| 14:36.19 | shay_shay | BenLue, apt-cache policy libjson-c2 |
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| 14:37.12 | shay_shay | BenLue, you need to add wheezy backports to your sources.list |
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| 14:37.23 | shay_shay | presumably |
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| 14:37.33 | BenLue | shay_shay i have added sid |
| 14:37.41 | BenLue | http://paste.debian.net/144553/ |
| 14:37.41 | shay_shay | :o |
| 14:38.08 | shay_shay | BenLue, dont add sid unless its a deb-src line |
| 14:38.24 | shay_shay | its not okay to mix wheezy with sid |
| 14:38.35 | BenLue | ahh okay |
| 14:38.43 | shay_shay | however, you can compile packages from sid onto wheezy |
| 14:38.50 | BenLue | can u give me the for wheezy backports plz? |
| 14:39.13 | shay_shay | !tell BenLue about ssb |
| 14:39.31 | abrotman | that's not what he asked? |
| 14:39.44 | shay_shay | abrotman, i was getting there |
| 14:40.04 | abrotman | shay_shay: btw, aptitude install '~pstandard' etc .. |
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| 14:40.43 | shay_shay | abrotman, i know |
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| 14:41.34 | shay_shay | BenLue, http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 14:43.53 | shay_shay | abrotman, that wasn't what he asked, however he was headed for disaster if I didn't say anything. so you would rather me just put blinders on so i don't get "spooked" by adjacent problems? |
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| 14:46.07 | nafac | blaah my phone ringtone is set to nyan cat and now it plays nonstop in my head.. |
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| 14:46.24 | nafac | installing debian on my Galaxy. |
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| 14:48.10 | nafac | and my servant android is a male.. |
| 14:48.12 | nafac | bah |
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| 14:51.01 | nafac | Willing to "port" any C/C++ open-source software to mobile platforms for money. |
| 14:51.06 | nafac | x) |
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| 14:52.52 | abrotman | nafac: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 14:54.56 | sydney | Ok, i need to have a command run on my computer starting and independent of the DE. How would i do that? |
| 14:55.02 | sydney | Crontab doesn't seem to work. |
| 14:55.28 | sydney | Well, when i do "crontab" it sits and doesn't do anything. |
| 14:55.38 | sydney | Liek the command freezes. |
| 14:56.03 | tr00p | rc.local? |
| 14:56.24 | sydney | But not as root. |
| 14:56.24 | tr00p | sydney: did you tried it? |
| 14:56.27 | tr00p | ok |
| 14:56.49 | tr00p | so maybe screen then login to non-root and execute it |
| 14:56.52 | tr00p | in rc.local |
| 14:57.35 | sydney | Well, is it possible to see if crontab would work? Maybe im not doing somethign right. |
| 14:57.56 | tr00p | i didn't use crontab, so i don't know :P |
| 14:58.14 | sydney | Oh, crontab -e. duh me. |
| 14:58.20 | nafac | nope, just signed to a dev team of over 200 persons |
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| 14:59.01 | ctmjr | nafac: so whts your job spamming irc for work? |
| 14:59.34 | sydney | hehe. |
| 15:00.12 | tr00p | sydney: in crontabs man is writed that user must be in allow file to exec crontab (if allow file exists) |
| 15:00.38 | sydney | Here is a question. i try to write it and get this. " crontab: installing new crontab |
| 15:00.41 | sydney | "/tmp/crontab.IOuvdW/crontab":23: bad minute |
| 15:00.42 | tr00p | sydney: did you tried creating allow file |
| 15:00.43 | sydney | errors in crontab file, can't install. |
| 15:00.46 | sydney | " |
| 15:00.58 | sydney | What? |
| 15:01.00 | tr00p | i don't know, i didn't use crontab :/ |
| 15:01.26 | sydney | Does anyone else know? |
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| 15:02.23 | ins3 | sydney: |
| 15:02.25 | ins3 | paste your crontab |
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| 15:05.18 | sydney | ins3: http://paste.debian.net/144557/ ? |
| 15:05.57 | SAKUJ0 | hey can you guys help a new one out? just installed duplicity and it seems to work but i am lacking a way to find the log files. I searched the man pages for the 10 occurrences of the word "log" and read through the Debian wiki. Should duplicity not log by default? |
| 15:06.09 | ins3 | sydney: when do you want to run it? |
| 15:06.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sydney about run at startup |
| 15:06.22 | sydney | Its a script that runs 24/7 |
| 15:06.26 | sydney | Command* |
| 15:06.44 | ins3 | # 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/ |
| 15:07.01 | ins3 | you're trying to get it to run 24/7 with this? |
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| 15:07.16 | sydney | A friend told me to do it this way, so yes/ |
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| 15:07.36 | abrotman | sydney: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 15:07.39 | sydney | SAKUJ0: I didn't think it logged. |
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| 15:08.16 | SAKUJ0 | apparently it doesn't but i read that it can and i believe it should |
| 15:08.17 | sydney | abrotman: I have a terminal comand to run my autossh client. Currently i have to DE handle running it but i want the machine to handle it. |
| 15:08.59 | sydney | the system* |
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| 15:09.44 | sydney | And its a script that you type in a terminal and it just runs. |
| 15:09.54 | SAKUJ0 | hmm i guess i have to just log the output manually? |
| 15:09.54 | sydney | you close the terminal and it quits. |
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| 15:10.33 | SAKUJ0 | maybe i did not realize that that was what the shell scripts did |
| 15:10.46 | sydney | abrotman: An init script would do it? |
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| 15:13.34 | SAKUJ0 | are there any 'good practices' on how to log manually? |
| 15:13.53 | SAKUJ0 | if i start just hacking in some newbie shell scripts i am bound to make them not 'good' (they'll probably work, though) |
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| 15:16.38 | sydney | SAKUJ0: I really don't know. |
| 15:16.48 | sydney | I use deja dup quite a bit. |
| 15:16.53 | sydney | But its a frontend. |
| 15:16.59 | SAKUJ0 | yeah i know |
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| 15:17.04 | SAKUJ0 | setting up HTPC right now |
| 15:17.09 | SAKUJ0 | even hesitant installing fluxbox :p |
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| 15:17.58 | SAKUJ0 | installing all that gtk stuff is a bit too much bloat for my taste and i ran into this issue many times. learning by doing i guess. like i forgot to unset my passphrases and passwords with my duplicity script |
| 15:18.03 | SAKUJ0 | it is the small things that you mess up |
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| 15:38.04 | by4 | hello everyone |
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| 15:38.15 | by4 | i have a problem accesing a windows share |
| 15:38.18 | by4 | any help? |
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| 15:39.52 | Brigo | by4, explain the problem and we will see :) |
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| 15:40.38 | by4 | well when i open thunar |
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| 15:40.55 | by4 | and click on network and then windows network nothing shoiws up |
| 15:41.03 | by4 | i can ping the ip of the machine |
| 15:41.08 | by4 | but cannot mount anything |
| 15:41.14 | by4 | or browse it etc. |
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| 15:41.55 | by4 | even smbclient -L localhost gives me NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED |
| 15:42.03 | Brigo | by4, i do not know if thunar has windows network support |
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| 15:42.25 | by4 | well i was accesing the share yesterday |
| 15:42.27 | by4 | ... |
| 15:42.34 | Brigo | by4, NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED minds windows are blocking the connection |
| 15:42.48 | by4 | but localhost? |
| 15:42.55 | by4 | which is my linux machine |
| 15:42.58 | Brigo | may be somthing change in the windows connection |
| 15:43.13 | Brigo | by4, ah, yes. |
| 15:43.25 | by4 | the moment i uprgade to debian testing that thing happens btw... it was the same with jessie 2 weeks ago |
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| 15:44.15 | by4 | i upgraded my crunchbang from stable to testing made a distro-upgrade and lost ability to browse shares |
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| 15:44.52 | Brigo | by4 i do not know samba enoght to help you beyond this, sorry :/ |
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| 15:44.58 | by4 | :( |
| 15:44.59 | Brigo | enough* |
| 15:45.43 | babilen | dpkg: crunchbang |
| 15:45.43 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 15:45.58 | by4 | sorry |
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| 15:55.58 | shay_shay | question, in order for exim4 to work to send mail to another computer on my LAN, do i need to dpkg-reconfigure it as an internet site? |
| 15:56.21 | shay_shay | i am using sendmail on the command line to test my postfix vm, but its not getting the mail |
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| 15:57.23 | aeg | upgraded to new machine and new install, when sending mail the hostname is added to the outgoing email address. this happens form cli and form squirrelmail, so i think this is happening in exim4 correct ?; but i cant't find any diff between the old and new machine exim4 config |
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| 15:59.06 | aeg | other changes in the new install: going from corrier to dovecot |
| 16:00.19 | jeangab | Hi all, this is more a tomcat related question but #tomcat is not very responsive... So I'll try here : I have openjdk7, tomcat 8.0.18 and the same war both on ArchLinux and Debian Wheezy but on Debian I'm always getting org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.startInternal Error listenerStart. |
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| 16:00.28 | shay_shay | aeg, how is squirrelmail? i am in the process of installing that myself |
| 16:01.30 | jeangab | I tried adding a <listener...> statement in web.xml as suggested somewhere in the logs but it didn't help at all. I tried both downloading tomcat zip and tomcat8 from wheezy-backports |
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| 16:02.00 | aeg | shay_shay: it is very basic but works and is save |
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| 16:07.06 | blawiz | anyone know if theres an easy option for installing a newer version of zathura on deb stable? |
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| 16:07.26 | blawiz | all the pdfs with vim keybindings are like v 0.1 :S |
| 16:07.35 | blawiz | pdf viewers* |
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| 16:09.52 | duelle | blawiz, if the dependencies listed on https://pwmt.org/projects/zathura/installation/ are met on your installation you could install it from source |
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| 16:10.09 | blawiz | duelle, ye, doesnt seem to be :/ |
| 16:10.15 | blawiz | (tried it earlier) |
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| 16:10.49 | abrotman | !checkbackport zathura |
| 16:11.03 | abrotman | ,checkbackport zathura |
| 16:11.18 | judd | Backporting package zathura in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgirara-dev (>= 0.2.3), libsynctex-dev. |
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| 16:14.30 | duelle | blawiz, I guess the girara package is the problem? |
| 16:14.43 | phix | sup |
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| 16:15.24 | blawiz | duelle, thats right :) |
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| 16:16.45 | duelle | blawiz, if not needed by other tools you could try to install that from source too. It's not a very good way - but it could work.. |
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| 16:17.11 | duelle | seems to only have the gtk3 as a dep |
| 16:17.44 | O[n] | estimate when jessie will go stable? please don't say "when it's ready" |
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| 16:19.19 | blawiz | duelle, i need the -dev stuff i guess? |
| 16:19.22 | abrotman | O[n]: When it's ready |
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| 16:19.47 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, when will be jessie released? |
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| 16:20.18 | asdfasdf | I |
| 16:20.37 | asdfasdf | I'm having trouble installing wine32 on a 64 bit machine (running jessie) |
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| 16:21.30 | asdfasdf | I ran dpkg --add-architecture i386, but apt-get install wine32 keeps saying that various dependencies are "not going to be installed" |
| 16:21.34 | asdfasdf | it doesn't really say a reason |
| 16:21.56 | duelle | blawiz, you can follow the installation guide for the stable versions on the page of girara/.. |
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| 16:22.19 | duelle | If you do not have make, etc installed already you have to install it beforehand |
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| 16:23.53 | shay_shay | O[n], it's only being given a title, you can take that with a little salt |
| 16:24.02 | duelle | blawiz, seems as if the gtk3-version in wheezy isn't high enough too :/ |
| 16:24.20 | nafac | good environments ruined by malicious hackers |
| 16:24.31 | abrotman | nafac: Please stop with the nonsense |
| 16:24.42 | duelle | At least my vm does not build the girara package from source because it requires gtk 3.2 |
| 16:24.50 | blawiz | duelle, ohhh.. which package installs "gtk3"? |
| 16:24.55 | hassoon | why do i have to run sudo dhclient eth0 everytime i wake up the laptop or power it on : |
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| 16:25.16 | hassoon | *: S |
| 16:25.19 | duelle | blawiz, I tried libgtk-3-0 |
| 16:25.21 | hassoon | meh |
| 16:26.06 | duelle | now trying libgtk-3-dev |
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| 16:26.25 | blawiz | duelle, hmm... looks high enough to me... 3.4? |
| 16:26.37 | duelle | the build said it needed 3.2 |
| 16:26.38 | blawiz | requires 3.2? |
| 16:28.08 | duelle | blawiz, my vm doesn't want this to work. But perhaps you get it to work ;) |
| 16:29.00 | blawiz | lets roll the dice ;P |
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| 16:29.31 | duelle | fingers crossed^ |
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| 16:34.25 | blawiz | duelle, couldnt install girara ... im probably too unskilled for this ;P |
| 16:34.38 | duelle | blawiz, what is the error message? |
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| 16:34.53 | blawiz | duelle, cc: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-fdiagnostics-color=always’ |
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| 16:44.57 | duelle | blawiz, That was the compilation error I got too. Unfortunately I am not that proficient in C/C++ compilation errors. Perhaps someone else can tell whether this is some "real error"? |
| 16:45.17 | duelle | Or if one can workaround this |
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| 16:47.12 | duelle | Might be that this option is only supported by a higher version of gcc. |
| 16:47.56 | blawiz | oh... ye |
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| 16:52.16 | YamakasY | can I run find from /home in /home/user/foo ? |
| 16:53.13 | duelle | blawiz, which version of girara did you try to compile? |
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| 16:55.38 | blawiz | duelle, dowloaded the zip https://github.com/pwmt/girara |
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| 16:57.03 | duelle | blawiz, as the zathura page states, that it needs girara 0.1.8 or above, you could try version 0.1.8. Perhaps this does not use the compiler option that causes the error: https://pwmt.org/projects/girara/download/ |
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| 16:57.35 | duelle | Unfortunately that's my last idea to solve this problem :/ |
| 16:57.35 | blawiz | duelle, good idea :D |
| 16:58.17 | duelle | At least 0.1.8 is about a year older than the latest (0.2.3). There are chances that you have luck^^ |
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| 17:01.08 | blawiz | ohh.. latest zathura requires GIRARA is 0.2.3 |
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| 17:02.01 | duelle | blawiz, the installation page states 0.1.8 as a minimum dependency .. |
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| 17:02.24 | duelle | blawiz, https://pwmt.org/projects/zathura/installation/ |
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| 17:03.54 | blawiz | duelle, yeah ... guess they like "developing more than documentation" ;P |
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| 17:05.01 | duelle | blawiz, not unusual .. depending on how many versions you want to go up, you could at least try to get a bit "higher" than the default version on debian is. Got no more ideas - sorry :/ |
| 17:05.32 | blawiz | yeah |
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| 17:10.45 | blawiz | duelle, got a bit further on zathura 0.2.5 :P fatal error: magic.h: No such file or directory |
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| 17:13.00 | duelle | blawiz, sounds good so far. Does it also tell you where the error occurs? |
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| 17:14.09 | blawiz | duelle, hmm not sure what you mean, heres the output: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974176/pastebin.txt |
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| 17:17.23 | Quatroking | how do i view available hdd space in a cli |
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| 17:18.54 | duelle | blawiz, Now it gets tricky. I am not a C expert, so this is just a thing to try: |
| 17:19.12 | Vroomfondel | Quatroking: df -h |
| 17:19.15 | duelle | Open the document.c file and add the following line before the other #define-lines: |
| 17:19.18 | duelle | #define WITH_MAGIC 0 |
| 17:19.20 | Quatroking | thanks |
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| 17:22.46 | duelle | blawiz, I have to correct myself, hang on |
| 17:22.51 | blawiz | duelle, hmm didnt seem to work, but slightly different output https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974176/pastebin.txt (the === new === section) |
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| 17:25.34 | duelle | blawiz, You can remove the line. This setting says whether you want to compile libmagic into zathura. For now I would say we see that it works without. To do that you can edit the config.mk file in line 38 and set WITH_MAGIC to 0 |
| 17:25.57 | duelle | Later you perhaps can install libmagic and recompile with it |
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| 17:26.28 | duelle | So remove the line you added before (#define WITH_MAGIC 0) and set the WITH_MAGIC flag in config.mk to 0 |
| 17:26.41 | duelle | then the error should be gone. |
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| 17:34.56 | blawiz | duelle, now it installed, but wont show pdfs :P just opens a gray window ... |
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| 17:35.10 | duelle | Ok, at least we got a bit further ;) |
| 17:35.22 | duelle | So we probably really need the magic-lib ;) |
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| 17:35.52 | blawiz | oh.. installed libmagic-dev and recompiled too, no luck |
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| 17:37.53 | duelle | blawiz, did you set the flag back to 1 then? |
| 17:39.27 | blawiz | duelle, mhm, but will try 0.2.4 |
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| 17:41.50 | duelle | blawiz, please check whether you have the tool `file` installed. As the installation page states, the libmagic is part of the file package. Did the compilation show any warnings/errors |
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| 17:44.05 | duelle | blawiz, depending on what document you want to use, you might install a plugin (e.g. pdf, ps, ..) |
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| 17:47.17 | blawiz | duelle, yeah, i think i need to install plugins |
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| 17:50.26 | blawiz | duelle, omg i think its working now :D |
| 17:50.43 | duelle | blawiz, sounds great ;) |
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| 18:59.49 | cmouse | hi! is this the right place to ask why my package is picking up wrong libc6-amd64 version dependency in substvars? |
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| 19:00.58 | nkuttler | how should i add screenshots to bug reports? as attachments? |
| 19:01.52 | cmouse | it's picking up 2.4 but should take 2.1 |
| 19:01.53 | cmouse | 2.19 |
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| 19:02.40 | nkuttler | cmouse: paste.debian.net the output of apt-cache policy for the involved packages |
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| 19:03.26 | cmouse | nkuttler: er, this is during dpkg-buildpackage... |
| 19:03.47 | cmouse | nkuttler: not sure how apt-cache policy relates to this |
| 19:04.00 | nkuttler | cmouse: ah.. sounds like you want #debian-mentors @ oftc |
| 19:04.09 | cmouse | i hope so. |
| 19:04.23 | nkuttler | cmouse: are you a dd? |
| 19:04.57 | cmouse | nkuttler: no, just a poor sysadmin having to backport stuff |
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| 19:10.38 | jhutchins | !mentors |
| 19:10.38 | dpkg | i guess mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 19:22.35 | pessoa | who pessoa |
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| 19:22.46 | pessoa | grrrr typo |
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| 19:24.15 | isaaclw | is there a switch for bzip2 that I can use to compress the following named file?: 'sda1.dd-img.bz' I'm getting the error: bzip2: Input file sda1.dd-img.bz already has .bz suffix. |
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| 19:32.23 | niilos | Hi all! |
| 19:33.14 | duelle | Hi |
| 19:33.24 | ghostlines | hello, so I installed Wheezy and I can list firewall rules with "iptables -L" but don't see service for iptables in /etc/init.d/. For like reloading rules |
| 19:33.59 | niilos | I've go a permission issue : I recently installed wordpress but it can't create file or directory. the wp directory belong to the ftp user. |
| 19:34.02 | socomm | ghostlines: That's because iptables is not services. |
| 19:34.21 | niilos | Do you know how to fix this? |
| 19:34.38 | OSVG | niilos: Fix your permissions? |
| 19:34.49 | socomm | s/services/service/g |
| 19:35.01 | niilos | I want WP able to create file and directory |
| 19:35.29 | socomm | niilos: Change your permissions, also does apache run as the 'ftp' user? Probably not. |
| 19:35.31 | OSVG | Ok, so you'll need to provide it permissions either by adding it's user to a group with permissions or adjusting the folder permissions above where WP is installed to allow it to write. |
| 19:35.47 | ghostlines | socomm gotcha. so I guess on other distro's /etc/init.d/iptables is just a script used to reload/start/etc.. |
| 19:36.09 | ghostlines | does Debian have a such an equivalent? |
| 19:36.18 | socomm | ghostlines: Its just a wrapper to load/unload rules to the ip filter. |
| 19:36.42 | socomm | https://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
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| 19:36.50 | socomm | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall |
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| 19:37.09 | niilos | How can I allow WP to write? |
| 19:37.35 | OSVG | niilos: Offhand, what is your familiarity level with unix style permissions? |
| 19:37.48 | OSVG | And, how secure do you need/want your WP site to be? |
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| 19:38.23 | socomm | niilos: Change ownership to www-data and then check the permission of the directory. |
| 19:38.43 | socomm | niilos: Also you can add your 'ftp' user to the www-data group and make the directory group writable. |
| 19:38.46 | socomm | All set. |
| 19:39.17 | socomm | niilos: If you have problems I'll be more than glad to help you for 20 dollars. :^) |
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| 19:40.14 | socomm | ghostlines: so the iptables script on redhat pretty much clears the rules when you stop it, and loads the rules when you start it, and reloads rules from file when you restart it |
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| 19:40.43 | ghostlines | socomm interesting stuff, thanks for the links and info |
| 19:40.50 | socomm | ghostlines: np |
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| 19:44.11 | Dan39 | hi :) |
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| 19:44.54 | Dan39 | using exim4 on debian 7. any suggestions for getting outlook/hotmail to accept my emails? gmail does happily, not even marked as spam, and SPF passes |
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| 19:46.49 | OSVG | Are you sending email from a non outlook/hotmail domain ~to~ the hotmail domain? |
| 19:47.03 | Dan39 | yes, to outlook.com domain |
| 19:47.14 | Dan39 | tho the mx server in logs shows i think mx4.hotmail.com or something |
| 19:47.18 | Dan39 | from my own domain |
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| 19:47.30 | OSVG | And what message are you receiving back? |
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| 19:48.08 | Dan39 | nothing that i see in logs |
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| 19:49.50 | Dan39 | just says completed, then nothing |
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| 19:54.05 | Dan39 | i can even receive email from outlook just fine |
| 19:54.07 | Dan39 | >_< |
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| 20:03.33 | ger1e | Hey guys, what drivers do I need to apt-get for my radeon X550? |
| 20:03.48 | ger1e | I know about the linux-firmware-nonfree |
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| 20:03.54 | ger1e | Any other stuff? |
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| 20:04.29 | polyphagia | fglrx or fglrx-legacy ger1e |
| 20:04.37 | polyphagia | im not sure how old that card is |
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| 20:04.54 | polyphagia | oh apparently it's 2002 so you might be SOL on current debian release |
| 20:05.12 | polyphagia | although i bet the free drivers are probably fine f or it |
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| 20:07.55 | ger1e | trhanks polyphagia really old |
| 20:08.02 | ger1e | Like from 2008 |
| 20:08.07 | ger1e | or something |
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| 20:09.21 | polyphagia | ger1e: yeah look up fglrx and fglrx legacy and see if it's covered. if not you'll either have to downgrade debian or just use the free drivers |
| 20:09.32 | polyphagia | although the free drivers are usually pretty good for older cards |
| 20:09.39 | ger1e | I'm good with the free drivers |
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| 20:09.44 | polyphagia | kk nice |
| 20:09.45 | ger1e | which one are those? |
| 20:09.49 | sydney | yes they are, with the exception of mine. |
| 20:09.50 | polyphagia | the ones alrdy installed :P |
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| 20:09.59 | SilverSlimer | quick question, is there a way to play blu-ray in debian now... with makemkv i mean? |
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| 20:10.02 | sydney | THe defualt oned. |
| 20:10.06 | sydney | ones* |
| 20:10.16 | ger1e | okok thank you guys |
| 20:10.18 | sydney | Noveau they are called ger1e. |
| 20:10.22 | sydney | FYI :) |
| 20:10.25 | polyphagia | sydney: for nvidia |
| 20:10.33 | polyphagia | the ATI free ones are called radeon |
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| 20:10.42 | sydney | Oh! |
| 20:10.45 | sydney | Oops. |
| 20:10.55 | sydney | I thought noveau worked both ways. |
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| 20:11.10 | polyphagia | apparently they're >radeon, r128, mach64) |
| 20:11.11 | sydney | So a debian release has to cover both at the same time? good grief. |
| 20:11.19 | polyphagia | yeah |
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| 20:11.33 | polyphagia | xserver-xorg-video-radeon/noveau |
| 20:11.47 | sydney | noveau is not friendly with my card. at least not jessie. Wheezy worked. |
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| 20:18.03 | nindustries | Hi, trying to connect my synology to a webdav server (apache2 on debian). Im getting the "Not a WebDAV enabled share" error; suggestions? On my server, I see the '/webdav/ file not found' error. I can visit/mount the file fine on other systems.. |
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| 20:18.41 | nea1 | hi, is there a way to make dhcpd less verbose? i don't really geht the log-facility parameter |
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| 20:21.51 | ghostlines | socomm I'm now using iptables-persistent which is pretty nice, only drawback I see is if having everything in onf file. Do you know a handy workaround for that? |
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| 20:26.11 | Rudde | I have a script on my system |
| 20:26.17 | Rudde | how can I find the abolsute location of it? |
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| 20:27.35 | ghostlines | Rudde locate <scriptname> might work |
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| 20:27.43 | Rudde | Did not :/ |
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| 20:28.29 | maziar | how to redirect *. |
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| 20:28.49 | maziar | how to redirect *.site.com to x.com on nginx ? |
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| 20:31.21 | ghostlines | Rudde and I guess the find command didn't work either? |
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| 20:32.18 | Rudde | I don't know if I use it right, but no. |
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| 20:33.00 | socomm | Rudde: find / -iname filename |
| 20:33.16 | socomm | Rudde: find / -iname script_name |
| 20:33.39 | ghostlines | that's gotta find it |
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| 20:33.48 | socomm | Where script_name is the name of your script. |
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| 20:33.53 | Rudde | That fond it yes :D |
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| 20:34.07 | Rudde | crontab -e |
| 20:34.07 | maziar | how to redirect *.site.com to x.com on nginx ? |
| 20:34.21 | socomm | maziar: There is an nginx channel on this network. |
| 20:34.31 | socomm | maziar: /j #nginx |
| 20:34.46 | maziar | socomm, they are sleeping, can you helpp ? |
| 20:34.50 | socomm | maziar: Also I'd recommend using google, that seems like fairly frequently asked question. |
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| 20:35.58 | socomm | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6045020/how-to-redirect-to-a-different-domain-using-nginx |
| 20:36.15 | socomm | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-bsd-nginx-rewrite-old-domain-to-new-domain/ |
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| 20:36.23 | socomm | You could also redirect via HTML. |
| 20:36.49 | socomm | http://webmaster.iu.edu/tools-and-guides/maintenance/redirect-meta-refresh.phtml |
| 20:36.59 | socomm | maziar: Took me less than 1 minutes to find these. |
| 20:37.06 | maziar | socomm, i want if some one use x.website.com go to that url not website.com |
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| 20:38.33 | maziar | socomm, like : if someone try x.maziar.com goto socomm.com,,,,, but if try maziar.com go to maziar.co, |
| 20:38.37 | socomm | http://serverfault.com/questions/583944/nginx-redirect-all-old-domain-subdomains-to-new-one |
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| 20:39.08 | socomm | maziar: Or just go to the source. http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_rewrite_module.html |
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| 20:40.30 | maziar | socomm, i read that but it doesn't any thing |
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| 20:41.03 | socomm | So you probably want to add a server block and then put your subdomain in there and then use: return 301 $scheme://www.test.com$request_uri; |
| 20:41.14 | socomm | Where test.com is the domain you wanna redirect to. |
| 20:41.22 | socomm | Obviously the www. bit is optional. |
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| 20:42.02 | socomm | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10294481/how-to-redirect-a-url-in-nginx |
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| 20:43.51 | dawiba | Can anyone help? Trying to get cpu scaling to work on Jessie. Worked on Wheezy last night, upgraded today and now can't get it to work. |
| 20:43.59 | socomm | maziar: If you're stuck I'll be happy to help you set it up for 20 dollars. :^) |
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| 20:45.36 | Plop-linux | why don't I find /boot/grub/menu.lst :O |
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| 20:47.10 | socomm | Plop-linux: I think that's under /etc/default/grub. |
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| 20:48.45 | socomm | https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg01603.html |
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| 20:49.18 | maziar | socomm, :)) |
| 20:49.32 | mint | Any idea on when will the next debian stable be available? |
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| 20:51.45 | shay_shay | mint, its available now |
| 20:51.47 | OSVG | mint: when they've fixed all the major bugs. |
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| 20:54.17 | socomm | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
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| 20:54.26 | mint | Hmm. Ok. I was happily using Debian wheezy, but I bought intel sandy bridge laptop from 2011 which is horribly unstable under (and only in) linux due to intel GPU drivers, most stable experience so far with the latest mint 17.1. I was thinking maybe try to use something else until next stable debian is 'released' |
| 20:54.41 | socomm | Mint looks like it takes around 2 years from previous stable release. |
| 20:54.46 | socomm | Going off recent trends. |
| 20:55.13 | socomm | 7.0 wa released in 2013. So we're just about due for another stable release. This is not 100% guaranteed though. |
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| 20:55.47 | socomm | mint: You can always try testing. |
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| 21:06.40 | leafwiz__ | Hello. I'm trying to connect up to my wpa-psk open network, with my wpa_supplicant , but I get error message that the key is wrong when it is not. |
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| 21:07.26 | leafwiz__ | On my Cisco router I have specified the password in ASCII. The network works with other devices. I'm using a linux certified wifi card. |
| 21:08.12 | leafwiz__ | I'm using stock wpa_supplicant config. So I'm a bit at a loss.. |
| 21:08.31 | leafwiz__ | I have also tried generating the config with wpa_passphrasee |
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| 21:09.16 | ctmjr | . |
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| 21:22.45 | Plop-linux | og so debian uses grub2 instead of brub 1? :O |
| 21:22.54 | Plop-linux | *grub* |
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| 21:23.11 | abrotman | Wheezy, yes |
| 21:23.17 | abrotman | grub1 is dead upstream |
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| 21:27.50 | Guest50300 | Hey guys i am trying to test out some ssh tunneling. is there a way that i could setup a tunnel so that i could connect to the client who is tunneled into my ssh server? (client a) -> (internet) -> (ssh server) <- (client b). I would like to get from "client b" to "client a" |
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| 21:28.19 | confrey | hi everybody |
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| 21:28.27 | shay_shay | yo |
| 21:28.30 | Guest50300 | so far i know how to connect "client a" to "client b" but cannot seem to figure out the best way to get to client a |
| 21:28.35 | Guest50300 | from client b |
| 21:28.37 | Guest50300 | hello |
| 21:29.04 | confrey | just installed debian testing (actually, it's a debian based, solydX), I have some thing not working, may I get some help here? |
| 21:29.10 | abrotman | Guest50300: google 'ssh reverse proxy' or something to that effect |
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| 21:29.24 | abrotman | confrey: you sohuld ask their support channel, we only suppport Debian here |
| 21:30.11 | confrey | abrotman: ok, I'm understanding |
| 21:30.19 | abrotman | confrey: they have their own support channel, #solydx, or try ##linux .. Thank you |
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| 21:30.34 | Guest50300 | abrotman: reverse ssh tunnel got me somewhere. Thank you! |
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| 21:31.42 | i5um41ru | when pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1, the startup still showed. while pressing Ctrl+Alt+F[2-6] it's only showing a blank, there are no tty that requires a login.. what to do? |
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| 21:33.18 | shay_shay | when pinging a from b, it loops back to b, e.g. 127.0.1.1. i expect it to resolve to 192.168.0.1... my /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts files are correct |
| 21:33.29 | shay_shay | this always happens when I clone VMs |
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| 21:33.32 | shay_shay | what am i missing |
| 21:33.45 | confrey | abrotman: I installed that to make it easy, may you suggest me a valid iso image to install testing from scratch? I can use terminal too if needed |
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| 21:37.23 | pwnd | how to solve this problem on debian wheezy 64bit? configure: error: Package requirements (openssl) were not met: No package 'openssl' found |
| 21:38.00 | pwnd | i have installed openssl |
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| 21:41.12 | nkuttler | pwnd: paste.debian.net the command you used and the entire output |
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| 21:44.18 | EriC^^ | !find /etc/init/tty1.conf |
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| 21:49.34 | i5um41ru | EriC^^: but there is no tty1 at there |
| 21:49.56 | EriC^^ | i5um41ru: i think there's supposed to be |
| 21:50.02 | EriC^^ | type ps a |
| 21:50.24 | EriC^^ | dpkg just left! he msged me about updating the database then left |
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| 21:52.42 | i5um41ru | EriC^^: here is the output http://www.fpaste.org/183084/34323461/ |
| 21:53.01 | i5um41ru | EriC^^: what database do you mean? |
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| 21:53.13 | EriC^^ | i5um41ru: the database of which files are in which packages |
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| 21:53.39 | EriC^^ | i5um41ru: this is mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/10132265/ |
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| 21:55.56 | EriC^^ | heh, i think there's a bug with dpkg |
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| 21:56.59 | lszyba1 | hello, I'm moving root partition to a /home partition. I mounted / as /mnt/src and /home as /mnt/dest in live cd...I copied everything over to /mnt/dest using rsync...then bind dev,sys,proc and chroot /mnt/dest..... I updated fstab....BUT update-grub still find and writes a patch to my old root partition(lvmgroup_root) instead of the new one(/lvmgroup_home)? Any idea what might be a problem ? |
| 21:57.56 | i5um41ru | EriC^^: recently it work, but after installing kde-full i got this problem.. |
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| 21:58.20 | shay_shay | hmm |
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| 21:58.55 | EriC^^ | lszyba1: did you chroot into /mnt/src ? |
| 21:59.07 | EriC^^ | nevermind |
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| 22:00.06 | EriC^^ | lszyba1: is everything still there in "/" ? |
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| 22:00.50 | lszyba1 | Eric: chroot into /mnt/dest.... Yes the original root is there until I can confirm it works... |
| 22:01.23 | EriC^^ | lszyba1: update-grub will still pick it up, confirm that the new installation works then delete it and then update-grub |
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| 22:01.42 | lszyba1 | I can boot by clicking e when grub comes up and changing lvmgroup_root to lvmgroup_home....and it works fine...but if there is an update or somebody does update-grub it will change back to original root |
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| 22:02.30 | lszyba1 | I can probably inactivate that lvm group and see if not finds it then,.... |
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| 22:18.17 | porton | I see "This plugin is vulnerable and should be updated" in Firefox at a Flash. But I have the latest version 11.2.202.440 of the plugin. What is it and what should I do? |
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| 22:18.55 | porton | ... from about:plugins : State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE) |
| 22:18.56 | abrotman | porton: Firefox or Iceweasel? |
| 22:19.01 | porton | Iceweasel |
| 22:19.10 | abrotman | porton: restarted it lately? |
| 22:19.20 | porton | abrotman: yes, restarted |
| 22:20.07 | abrotman | porton: run 'update-flashplugin-nonfree --install' ? |
| 22:21.04 | porton | abrotman: 'update-flashplugin-nonfree --install' and restarting Iceweasel does not help |
| 22:21.21 | mtn | porton: the only way to get rid of the message is to use a newer version of flash, like pepperflash in chromium. |
| 22:22.12 | abrotman | mtn: eh, I have iceweasel and flash, I don't get that warning |
| 22:22.30 | porton | flashplugin-nonfree |
| 22:22.32 | mtn | abrotman: probably told it to use it and not remind you? |
| 22:22.53 | abrotman | mtn: doubtful .. I don't goof with it much, just use it |
| 22:22.53 | mtn | abrotman: doesn't change the fact it is very outdated |
| 22:23.06 | abrotman | mtn: it's been getting security patches |
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| 22:23.08 | porton | Should I just wait for a newer release of Adobe Flash? |
| 22:23.47 | porton | Maybe to remove flashplugin-nonfree and install it again? |
| 22:23.55 | mtn | porton: adobe doesn't update the flash for linux, except for what chromium/chrome uses |
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| 22:24.21 | mtn | porton: except for security fixes |
| 22:24.23 | abrotman | mtn: That's not true |
| 22:24.27 | abrotman | ugh .. too late |
| 22:24.43 | mtn | :) |
| 22:25.00 | porton | I used flashplugin-nonfree with Iceweasel long time without any problems |
| 22:25.23 | mtn | porton: still can use it, it gives you the option to use it and ignore the warning |
| 22:25.32 | abrotman | porton: check the wiki page |
| 22:25.39 | porton | mtn: But should I ignore the warning? |
| 22:25.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell porton about flash |
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| 22:25.46 | mtn | porton: up to you ;) |
| 22:25.48 | porton | abrotman: which wiki? |
| 22:25.53 | kernik | hi, is there a guide called 'debian hardening for dummies'? |
| 22:26.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell kernik about hardening |
| 22:26.09 | abrotman | porton: see what the bot told you |
| 22:26.17 | mtn | porton: I ignore it and the house is still standing :P |
| 22:26.36 | abrotman | realistically, Flash has almost awlays been a security issue |
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| 22:27.13 | mtn | and not needed for youtube anymore |
| 22:27.27 | abrotman | though, sadly still needed for various websites |
| 22:27.34 | mtn | yup |
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| 22:30.33 | svetlana | Debian is being unfriendly to me, emacs's list-packages command isn't defined. I am not sure where to head; presumably I ought to install some package despite this being the core feature of emacs. I couldn't find which package is missing, though. |
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| 22:33.23 | temhaa | hello |
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| 22:33.31 | temhaa | I have question |
| 22:33.37 | temhaa | I removed bin direcotry |
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| 22:33.43 | temhaa | sudo rm -rf /bin |
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| 22:33.52 | mtn | was it a good idea? |
| 22:33.56 | temhaa | I am sorry. |
| 22:34.05 | mtn | temhaa: which version of debian? |
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| 22:34.58 | temhaa | mtn: actually I am using ubuntu 14.04 |
| 22:35.04 | mtn | !ubuntu |
| 22:35.04 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 22:36.32 | kernik | I just ran debsecan |
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| 22:36.43 | kernik | and got tons of results |
| 22:36.48 | svetlana | temhaa: Interesting. How did you find this channel, if I may ask? |
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| 22:37.34 | abrotman | svetlana: it's not important, this is the wrong channel |
| 22:37.42 | abrotman | kernik: yes, but what severity? |
| 22:37.59 | kernik | full range I guess |
| 22:38.00 | temhaa | svetlana: actually this question ask my friend. |
| 22:38.09 | kernik | it's a fresh installation |
| 22:38.24 | temhaa | svetlana: I already using debian. but ubuntu is debian based to |
| 22:38.58 | abrotman | temhaa: it's offtopic here, go to #ubuntu |
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| 22:39.37 | abrotman | kernik: make sure you install all available patches, try again |
| 22:39.47 | sudoBacon | Hello how can I enable non-free in debian after not enabling it in an expert install |
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| 22:40.28 | mtn | sudoBacon: edit /etc/sources.list |
| 22:40.30 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sudoBacon about non-free |
| 22:40.37 | temhaa | abrotman: mtn: I asked ubuntu channel this question. should reinstall ubuntu. But why? |
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| 22:40.57 | abrotman | temhaa: ask #ubuntu, we do not support Ubuntu here |
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| 22:43.28 | sudoBacon | mtn: trying to install fglrx or amd drivers but debian is not letting me gcc a required prerequisite is installed but it says I need too install linux headers 3.7 or use those as linux kernel headers when I want latest testing kernel |
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| 22:44.27 | mtn | sudoBacon: which version of debian are you running? |
| 22:44.37 | abrotman | sudoBacon: you should use the fglrx that are packaged in Debian |
| 22:44.59 | sudoBacon | mtn: debian testing 8 jessie |
| 22:45.08 | abrotman | sudoBacon: use the drivers already in Debian |
| 22:45.22 | sudoBacon | abrotman: fglrx-driver won't install |
| 22:45.33 | abrotman | sudoBacon: it will if you have the non-free repos enabled |
| 22:45.51 | sudoBacon | abrotman: How can I enable the non free |
| 22:46.06 | abrotman | the bot already told you |
| 22:46.10 | abrotman | look for a msg from dpkg |
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| 22:55.24 | axel_fly | my system switches off, when i am using primusrun on debian testing! |
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| 22:58.39 | BigMouthCommie | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.53 | un214 | WOW |
| 22:58.55 | un214 | just WOW |
| 23:00.10 | svetlana | Does the same happen under another user? |
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| 23:00.33 | Brigo | BigMouthCommie, what did you change? |
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| 23:08.21 | lszyba1 | eriC: I guess the key was: on the old / there was a boot folder that had the old scripts pointing to lvmgroup_root....I renamed it to boot_notused.... |
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| 23:19.05 | Komanda | is there a way to make the output of "free -m " more noob friendly? |
| 23:19.13 | Komanda | showing mb |
| 23:19.15 | Komanda | etc |
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| 23:19.31 | kernik | free -h |
| 23:19.41 | Komanda | basically i need to find a way to make the output of commands like that more pretty |
| 23:19.43 | Brigo | Komanda, free -h |
| 23:19.51 | Komanda | ah ok thanks |
| 23:19.55 | Brigo | Komanda, -h = human readable |
| 23:20.03 | Brigo | np :) |
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| 23:21.40 | abrotman | 'free -m' is MB .. |
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| 23:24.46 | Tobbi | When I try to install mono-devel on debian jessie, I keep getting the error message that some dependencies cannot be installed. Does anyone else have that problem? |
| 23:25.08 | un214 | I got 'em installed |
| 23:25.17 | Tobbi | Same thing with mono-all |
| 23:25.19 | un214 | if you scroll up you can determine what dependency failed and read off that message |
| 23:25.24 | Tobbi | hmm, okay. |
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| 23:26.30 | abrotman | Tobbi: aptitude update, try again |
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| 23:28.38 | Tobbi | abrotman, un214: Apparently it fails because libjpeg8 >=8c is not installable for whatever reason. |
| 23:29.09 | un214 | try apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:29.14 | un214 | or equivalent in aptitude |
| 23:29.49 | Tobbi | hrm, did that...nothing. |
| 23:30.47 | axel_fly | howto setup: syndaemon -i 1 -K -d |
| 23:30.54 | axel_fly | in debian jessie? |
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| 23:31.31 | abrotman | Tobbi: did you aptitude update? |
| 23:31.53 | Tobbi | abrotman: I did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 23:32.47 | abrotman | Tobbi: pastebin "apt-cache policy mono-develop" |
| 23:32.58 | un214 | a google search turns up a ubuntu mailing list indicating a problem with the package |
| 23:33.03 | un214 | maybe it's not real |
| 23:33.34 | Tobbi | abrotman: That just tells me that that package cannot be found. |
| 23:34.45 | jelly | ,v mono-develop |
| 23:34.46 | judd | No package named 'mono-develop' was found in i386. |
| 23:34.52 | jelly | ,v mono-develop --arch amd64 |
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| 23:34.53 | judd | No package named 'mono-develop' was found in amd64. |
| 23:35.08 | jelly | Tobbi: doesn't look like there's anything like that in Debian's repos |
| 23:35.21 | Tobbi | jelly: Wait, there is. It's called mono-devel |
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| 23:36.18 | jelly | are you sure that's MonoDevelop? |
| 23:36.39 | Tobbi | jelly: I never wanted mono develop. |
| 23:36.53 | Tobbi | Actually, I want mono-runtime + devel |
| 23:37.02 | Tobbi | aka, mono compilers etc. |
| 23:37.22 | jelly | oh, alright then |
| 23:39.01 | abrotman | Tobbi: sorry, my mistake |
| 23:39.13 | Tobbi | Maybe I should try debian stable then? |
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| 23:39.54 | abrotman | Tobbi: it sohuld work |
| 23:40.02 | jelly | Tobbi: does installation of "mono-devel" fail as well? |
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| 23:40.42 | abrotman | Tobbi: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy mono-devel;aptitude install mono-devel;cat /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 23:40.56 | Komanda | E: Unable to locate package inxi |
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| 23:41.31 | abrotman | Tobbi: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy mono-devel;aptitude install mono-devel;cat /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 23:41.36 | abrotman | looks at the bot ... |
| 23:41.36 | Tobbi | hold on. |
| 23:42.53 | sydney | Tobbi: Supertux won't buid on debian stable. |
| 23:43.06 | Tobbi | sydney: Alright, no problem. |
| 23:43.08 | Tobbi | BUt wait a minute. |
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| 23:43.12 | sydney | Tobbi: I have already tried it and i put a ton of effort into it. |
| 23:43.17 | sydney | To no avail. |
| 23:43.46 | Komanda | why do i get E: Unable to locate package inxi when i do apt-get install inxi |
| 23:43.56 | abrotman | Komanda: which version of linux? |
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| 23:44.00 | Tobbi | abrotman: It suggested a "solution" to me. I'm trying that out. |
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| 23:44.16 | Komanda | abrotman: weezy |
| 23:44.25 | abrotman | not available for hweezy |
| 23:44.26 | abrotman | wheezy |
| 23:44.30 | sydney | Tobbi: And it should work in Jessie since that is what im using. |
| 23:44.45 | Komanda | abrotman: no backport or some other way i can install taht package? |
| 23:45.01 | abrotman | no idea |
| 23:45.09 | abrotman | doesnt' appear so |
| 23:45.14 | sydney | Komanda: Probably not, but i will look. |
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| 23:46.06 | sydney | Nope. |
| 23:46.43 | Komanda | https://code.google.com/p/inxi/wiki/Installation |
| 23:46.50 | Komanda | sydney: already found something |
| 23:46.54 | smithd | Komanda: check whether that package is in the backports, if not, as a last resort, you can also backport it by yourself from jessie source. |
| 23:46.55 | Komanda | to get it working on weezy |
| 23:46.58 | Komanda | thanks anyways |
| 23:47.07 | abrotman | its' not in backports |
| 23:47.47 | Tobbi | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/3jDd5hHw |
| 23:48.02 | Komanda | W: GPG error: http://packages.siduction.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY |
| 23:48.07 | Tobbi | Sorry for this being German, hope you can get the relevant information anyway. |
| 23:48.28 | Komanda | Tobbi: NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN |
| 23:48.36 | Tobbi | hahaha. |
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| 23:48.45 | sydney | Oh, hum. |
| 23:48.46 | Tobbi | Es tut mir leid. |
| 23:48.58 | Komanda | lol |
| 23:49.02 | sydney | hehe |
| 23:49.06 | svetlana | (resent #1) emacs's list-packages command isn't defined. I am not sure where to head; presumably I ought to install some package despite this being the core feature of emacs. I couldn't find which package to install, though. |
| 23:49.23 | smithd | ok, then you can take the source from jessie and re-build it for wheezy - in many times this even works without any extra resolving. |
| 23:49.38 | Tobbi | Komanda: Are you German or did you understand what I said anyway? |
| 23:49.58 | Komanda | Tobbi: dutch |
| 23:50.03 | Komanda | i understand german |
| 23:50.07 | sydney | Or are you one of those peoples who do on-the-fly google translation? :P |
| 23:50.08 | Tobbi | Ah, nice. |
| 23:50.11 | Komanda | can;t speak it without looking like a retard |
| 23:50.13 | sydney | eheh :) |
| 23:50.15 | Komanda | lol |
| 23:50.35 | abrotman | Komanda: this isn't the right channel for siduction |
| 23:50.38 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 23:50.39 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@unaffiliated/komanda3] by abrotman |
| 23:50.39 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 23:50.46 | abrotman | Komanda: Please use the siduction support channels |
| 23:50.59 | sydney | Great. |
| 23:51.30 | abrotman | win 13 |
| 23:51.41 | sydney | ? |
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| 23:52.11 | sydney | Tobbi: I think i had that issue once, but i don't remember how o fix it. |
| 23:52.30 | sydney | Also, does it ask you for the jessie cd sometimes? |
| 23:52.43 | abrotman | Tobbi: pastebin just your sources.list please |
| 23:52.43 | Tobbi | Something like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjpeg8-empty/+bug/1404584 |
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| 23:54.00 | sydney | Tobbi: told you that debian wasnt such a "baby" distro. hehe :) |
| 23:54.10 | abrotman | not helping .. |
| 23:54.38 | sydney | abrotman: He is a pretty close friend of mine from another channel. |
| 23:54.58 | sydney | I will let my case rest.. |
| 23:55.02 | sydney | i don't know. |
| 23:55.25 | Tobbi | http://pastebin.com/6bhLApk3 |
| 23:55.41 | Tobbi | Wait, probably not. |
| 23:56.04 | abrotman | Tobbi: apt-get update;apt-get install mono-devel |
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| 23:58.58 | Tobbi_ | abrotman: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8626132 |
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| 23:59.52 | abrotman | Tobbi_: 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/' ... anything in there? |
