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| 00:02.22 | pycoderf | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse why does the wpa_supplicant instructions here not work |
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| 00:03.39 | SynrGy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:03.57 | SynrGy | is it significantly different from what you'll find in wpasupplicant's own doc? |
| 00:03.57 | pycoderf | which i also trie dto follow |
| 00:04.03 | pycoderf | no its similar |
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| 00:04.13 | SynrGy | well, works for me. i guess it's just you. but we have no details, so ... |
| 00:04.47 | pycoderf | well what details do you need or want? i followed that settin tit to match my network but no luck |
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| 00:05.29 | SynrGy | you know the routine |
| 00:05.29 | marioxcc | pycoderf: have you tried using the CLI version of network-manager? |
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| 00:05.41 | WilliamWS | Hi. |
| 00:05.47 | SynrGy | provide output, errors, etc. |
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| 00:07.19 | pycoderf | what is the packahe name? networkmanager-cli is not it |
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| 00:07.48 | pycoderf | if you say wicd-cli yes and it did not work |
| 00:07.51 | SynrGy | nmcli is the name of the binary |
| 00:08.17 | marioxcc | pycoderf: I don't remember the name, I'm not knowledgeable in the subject, but I just *think* that it might help you |
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| 00:08.26 | SynrGy | comes with network-manager. |
| 00:08.29 | marioxcc | though, network-manager is targeted to desktop environments |
| 00:08.41 | pycoderf | SynrGy: it is not available alone and not putting a DE it isn't needed |
| 00:09.02 | marioxcc | D |
| 00:09.03 | marioxcc | DE? |
| 00:09.09 | pycoderf | desktop environment |
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| 00:09.16 | SynrGy | uh? network-manager doesn't require a desktop |
| 00:09.34 | SynrGy | the network-manager package installs the backend, and it includes the cli nmcli |
| 00:09.43 | pycoderf | network-manager-gnome |
| 00:09.49 | SynrGy | no. network-manager. |
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| 00:10.03 | pycoderf | ok lets try it |
| 00:10.14 | WilliamWS | apt-get purge WilliamWS |
| 00:10.17 | SynrGy | i think the cli is pretty primative |
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| 00:10.35 | SynrGy | primitive* |
| 00:12.28 | SynrGy | when i tried it, it did not give me anything that wpa_cli didn't do better. |
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| 00:14.21 | pycoderf | both are being annoying. wpa_cli wont stop scroll by so i cannot see options |
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| 00:15.11 | SynrGy | is that the old one without readline? |
| 00:15.30 | SynrGy | pycoderf: you're trying to sort this all out before upgrading? |
| 00:15.33 | pycoderf | probably i dont know |
| 00:15.33 | toonces | wicd is pretty slow |
| 00:15.42 | pycoderf | i am already on debian testing |
| 00:16.52 | SynrGy | it shouldn't make that much scroll ... every once in a while it will notify of scan results |
| 00:17.03 | SynrGy | but again, we haven't seen *any* output from you |
| 00:17.14 | SynrGy | and you seem to just want to flit from one thing to the next ... so ... |
| 00:17.51 | pycoderf | yeah i cannot get any output nor what you are looking for. and i am between things because you guys just toss out applications with no guidance |
| 00:18.00 | pycoderf | so i am stoppign and trying to just do wpa_cli |
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| 00:18.11 | SynrGy | which is what i recommended in the first place. |
| 00:18.14 | pycoderf | but it will NOT stop scanning and scrolling off sos i cannot see the help to try things |
| 00:19.20 | SynrGy | change the scan_interval? |
| 00:19.29 | SynrGy | that would at least slow down the scroll a bit :) |
| 00:19.42 | pycoderf | well i also do not understand why the wiki is not helpful. but ok let me try i guess |
| 00:19.54 | SynrGy | shrugs |
| 00:20.00 | SynrGy | i never needed the wiki. just the README |
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| 00:20.24 | pycoderf | fine wait then i will redo all of last nights wpa_supplicant configs and /etc/network interfaces and copy/paste fo ryou to see that its broke |
| 00:20.25 | SynrGy | set up /etc/network/interfaces for roaming. set up my networks in wpa_suppliacnt.conf ... |
| 00:20.27 | pycoderf | i followed the readme |
| 00:20.39 | SynrGy | each time i add a new network there, i 'reconfigure' to reload it |
| 00:20.57 | SynrGy | and the README has some hint about an option to use for hidden networks, iirc. |
| 00:23.11 | pycoderf | root@xbmc-dell:~# wpa_cli reconfigure |
| 00:23.11 | pycoderf | Selected interface 'wlan0' |
| 00:23.11 | pycoderf | FAIL |
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| 00:23.21 | pycoderf | after configuring my wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 00:23.27 | SynrGy | so i guess you have errors in it |
| 00:23.29 | pycoderf | following the REAADME |
| 00:23.33 | pycoderf | and copied the example |
| 00:23.48 | pycoderf | i straight copied the example and edited in my info |
| 00:24.33 | pycoderf | tthis is getting stupid |
| 00:24.39 | pycoderf | and turning out to be far too much effort |
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| 00:24.53 | pycoderf | the README and EXAMPLES are obviously unhelpfult o me if they still fail |
| 00:25.01 | SynrGy | clearly the instructions are wrong. it couldn't possibly be a mistake you made |
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| 00:25.22 | SynrGy | of course there remains the mystery how *i* got it to work following the same instructions ;) |
| 00:25.28 | pycoderf | ok but where is the issue i cannot seem to find from the readme |
| 00:25.36 | SynrGy | dunno. haven't seen your configs |
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| 00:26.28 | pycoderf | http://pastebin.com/NYKxzRyM |
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| 00:26.35 | pycoderf | obviously with passphrase and ssid matching my network |
| 00:26.48 | SynrGy | wpasupplicant is the "hard way". most people use network-manager, which "just works". but you seem determined to do it the hard way, and i know it works so ... if you're still wanting to get it to work, i can help. |
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| 00:27.16 | pycoderf | there is my config |
| 00:27.26 | pycoderf | and if this is due to symbols in my passphrase then its broken |
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| 00:28.08 | SynrGy | hmm... ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant |
| 00:28.17 | SynrGy | is what i have |
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| 00:29.13 | pycoderf | so i added that and the two lines the readme said for hidden networks and it still fails |
| 00:29.38 | SynrGy | for psk and ssid i have double-quotes around the arguments |
| 00:30.08 | pycoderf | still fail |
| 00:30.12 | SynrGy | and for hidden networks, i have scan_ssid=1 |
| 00:30.27 | pycoderf | same |
| 00:32.04 | SynrGy | in fact, the whole line is: |
| 00:32.07 | SynrGy | ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev |
| 00:32.16 | SynrGy | this allows anyone in the netdev group to run wpa_cli |
| 00:32.28 | pycoderf | well i dont care about that if it can run at boot |
| 00:33.10 | SynrGy | also, i do not specify anything but key_mgmt=WPA-PSK |
| 00:33.15 | pycoderf | the readme seems to prefix everything with wpa- |
| 00:33.16 | SynrGy | the rest, it figures out on its own |
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| 00:33.54 | pycoderf | still fail |
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| 00:34.43 | SynrGy | why is it called wlan0.conf? |
| 00:35.05 | pycoderf | justw hat i chose fo rit. didn't think it mattered. iw ill try to call it wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 00:36.00 | SynrGy | i guess it doesn't really matter. |
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| 00:36.26 | pycoderf | ok renamed |
| 00:36.48 | pycoderf | so i rebooted to clean up anything i may have screwed up |
| 00:36.53 | pycoderf | i do wpa_cli reconfigure and get |
| 00:36.59 | pycoderf | Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: (null) error: No such file or directory |
| 00:37.50 | pycoderf | oh |
| 00:37.50 | SynrGy | great. so you don't even have a wpasupplicant to talk to |
| 00:37.51 | pycoderf | wait |
| 00:37.55 | pycoderf | yeah how do i fix that |
| 00:38.05 | SynrGy | it should be started via /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:38.19 | SynrGy | e.g. |
| 00:38.26 | SynrGy | iface wlan0 inet manual |
| 00:38.38 | SynrGy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:39.06 | SynrGy | and you also need in there somewhere, something like: |
| 00:39.11 | SynrGy | allow-hotplug wlan0 |
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| 00:39.23 | pycoderf | ok that is in there |
| 00:39.24 | SynrGy | oh, probably also: |
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| 00:39.36 | SynrGy | iface default inet dhcp |
| 00:40.20 | pycoderf | ok so i tried to ifup wlan0 |
| 00:40.30 | pycoderf | root@xbmc-dell:~# ifup wlan0 |
| 00:40.31 | pycoderf | wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start |
| 00:40.31 | pycoderf | run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1 |
| 00:40.31 | pycoderf | Failed to bring up wlan0. |
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| 00:40.56 | pycoderf | so the daemon i snot starting |
| 00:41.03 | SynrGy | and daemon.log has reasons? |
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| 00:41.35 | pycoderf | failed to read or parse config |
| 00:41.57 | pycoderf | inmvalid line ap-scan and ssid-scan |
| 00:42.33 | SynrGy | where are those? not in any paste you showed me |
| 00:42.42 | pycoderf | i added them to the conf file |
| 00:43.52 | SynrGy | so remove them? |
| 00:44.05 | SynrGy | basically, start simple, make it work, then add options |
| 00:44.40 | SynrGy | if you do one thing at a time you have a better chance of knowing which thing broke it |
| 00:44.49 | pycoderf | so i could ifup but it did not connect to anything |
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| 00:44.57 | SynrGy | progress :) |
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| 00:45.19 | pycoderf | so what i snext |
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| 00:46.20 | SynrGy | ap_scan=1 (note, underscore, not dash) is for the global section. ssid_Scan=1 (again note: underscore, not dash) belongs in the network definition |
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| 00:46.50 | pycoderf | in the wpasupplicant.conf? |
| 00:46.55 | SynrGy | yes |
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| 00:47.33 | SynrGy | sorry, typo. ssid_scan=1 |
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| 00:48.30 | pycoderf | yeah thhat did not work |
| 00:48.31 | pycoderf | sec |
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| 00:48.50 | SynrGy | "did not work". again ... details? |
| 00:48.54 | pycoderf | ok back. ssh session broke |
| 00:49.00 | pycoderf | nothing logged |
| 00:49.09 | SynrGy | reconfigure succeeded? |
| 00:49.09 | marioxcc | hello |
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| 00:49.28 | pycoderf | Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: (null) error: No such file or directory |
| 00:49.37 | marioxcc | is there a way to run a program inside a chroot jail without copying the dynamically linked libraries to the jail? |
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| 00:49.51 | SynrGy | (null) doesn't seem like a great filename ... |
| 00:50.06 | pycoderf | i did not even touch that line though |
| 00:50.42 | SynrGy | is there a /var/run/wpa_supplicant? |
| 00:50.52 | pycoderf | ok now there is and i get a fail |
| 00:50.53 | pycoderf | moment |
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| 00:51.06 | pycoderf | it is not logging anymore |
| 00:51.14 | pycoderf | daemon.log is empty |
| 00:51.33 | SynrGy | there should be a socket for your interface in that dir |
| 00:51.34 | pycoderf | i moved it so i could isolate what was happened |
| 00:51.52 | pycoderf | yes i see wpa_supplicant and one for the interface |
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| 00:52.53 | pycoderf | i do not understand why it will not log now |
| 00:53.00 | pycoderf | and keeps failing even when i remove those lines |
| 00:53.26 | pycoderf | ok so |
| 00:53.36 | pycoderf | ap_scan=1 and ssid_scan=1 causes reconfigure to fail |
| 00:53.55 | SynrGy | i haven't seen it in a paste |
| 00:54.35 | pycoderf | i would paste but as i said NO LOGS |
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| 00:54.56 | SynrGy | i haven't seen your config in a paste. |
| 00:55.08 | SynrGy | you said it causes reconfigure to fail. so the config is wrong |
| 00:55.18 | SynrGy | if it were in a paste i could see *how* it is wrong |
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| 00:55.44 | pycoderf | http://pastebin.com/TXzp0XU1 |
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| 00:56.14 | SynrGy | it's scan_ssid |
| 00:56.20 | SynrGy | don't trust my memory :) |
| 00:56.24 | SynrGy | trust the doc |
| 00:56.34 | SynrGy | sorry about that |
| 00:56.42 | pycoderf | ok now that is fine |
| 00:56.52 | pycoderf | oh and it got an ip |
| 00:57.05 | SynrGy | there you go |
| 00:57.12 | pycoderf | so if i do auto wlan0 it should work on boot then? and do i need manual or can dhcp work |
| 00:57.22 | SynrGy | well, allow-hotplug wlan0 |
| 00:57.47 | pycoderf | ? |
| 00:58.04 | SynrGy | you can use auto, which affects what happens at boot. but allow-hotplug is more appropriate |
| 00:58.16 | pycoderf | will allow-hotplug let it start at boot |
| 00:58.19 | SynrGy | yes |
| 00:58.30 | pycoderf | so so if i disconnect my eth0 and reboot it should be fine? |
| 00:58.41 | SynrGy | yep |
| 00:58.44 | pycoderf | and manual is sufficient for dhcp? |
| 00:58.49 | pycoderf | or should i have it say dhcp? |
| 00:58.52 | marioxcc | Hello. Is there a way to run a program inside a chroot jail without copying the dynamically linked libraries to the jail? |
| 00:59.01 | SynrGy | remember i said you needed a default clause in there too? |
| 00:59.06 | SynrGy | that's as per the README as well |
| 00:59.08 | pycoderf | oh yeah |
| 00:59.35 | pycoderf | ok then this should solve this now on to xbmc itself and have it start at boot. have you done that |
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| 01:00.24 | SynrGy | nope. i start xbmc manually |
| 01:00.31 | SynrGy | it's not on a purpose-built system |
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| 01:00.48 | pycoderf | i found an upstart script ont heir site. that should be appropriate for debian right? or do i need init |
| 01:01.11 | star-Y | krux is my crux |
| 01:01.24 | star-Y | crucible |
| 01:01.35 | star-Y | krux was my cross |
| 01:01.38 | star-Y | krux is my boss |
| 01:01.39 | star-Y | now |
| 01:01.40 | pycoderf | upstart i think is ubuntu only |
| 01:01.52 | SynrGy | right |
| 01:02.21 | pycoderf | http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Autostart_XBMC_for_Linux#Add_a_new_init_script so that should be ok ? |
| 01:02.23 | pycoderf | number 3 |
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| 01:02.49 | SynrGy | i would start with whatever doc the debian package includes |
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| 01:02.54 | SynrGy | it may have some debian-specific advice |
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| 01:04.26 | SynrGy | /usr/share/doc/xbmc/examples includes an xbmc.service file |
| 01:04.36 | SynrGy | that will work with systemd |
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| 01:13.45 | SynrGy | i'm off to bed. nite |
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| 01:44.06 | marioxcc | Hello. How can I know the direct library dependencies of an executable? it seems like ldd resolves recursively the dependencies |
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| 01:46.12 | star-Y | don't die |
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| 01:50.34 | riceandbeans | with the advent of systemd in debian 8, does that mean there will no longer be debian gnu k/freebsd? |
| 01:51.05 | OptimizedCoder | Hi - I want ot install gcc-4.1 package :https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gcc-4.1 but do not want to overwrite my default gcc (sort of like a sandbox) - this possible? |
| 01:53.11 | riceandbeans | nevermind, I see they've officially thrown out the release |
| 01:53.26 | riceandbeans | god this distro has gone down hill |
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| 02:13.42 | tomivs | What is the best video editor in GNU/Linux? |
| 02:14.06 | bsdbeard | tomivs, avidemux is nice, don't know if it's the best |
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| 02:15.04 | marioxcc | I have created a directory "cr" with a "bin/bash" and the libraries it requires, nonetheless, if I do "chroot ." as root I get: chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory. What's the problem?. |
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| 02:17.32 | rryoumaa | no bsd kernel? really? |
| 02:18.15 | MrCurious | anyone familiar arietta g25? arm board, used emdebian. now emdebian is gone, does anyone know the deb repo's i can point it at to get new packages from? |
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| 02:20.08 | bsdbeard | rryoumaa, what about it? |
| 02:21.08 | rryoumaa | just confirming |
| 02:21.19 | slitt_pcbsd | If either Joel Roth or Joel Rees is here, please come to #golug on freenode to talk with me. |
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| 02:30.00 | marioxcc | what do you guys thing of lighttpd vs nginx, which one will suit better to host a small mediawiki and a forum? |
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| 03:06.33 | causual-usage | Debian |
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| 03:07.27 | bsdbeard | causual-usage, debian? |
| 03:07.45 | causual-usage | bsdbeard: TRAP SprRUNG |
| 03:07.55 | causual-usage | FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYSSSSSSTTTTTEEEEEEMMMMMMM |
| 03:07.57 | causual-usage | DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 03:08.02 | causual-usage | (Fuck Systemd) |
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| 03:08.23 | bsdbeard | alright... |
| 03:08.23 | causual-usage | bsdbeard: you die from a grid bug eating you |
| 03:08.31 | causual-usage | bsdbeard: seriously |
| 03:08.33 | causual-usage | fuck systemd |
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| 03:08.42 | causual-usage | duck systemd |
| 03:08.46 | causual-usage | fuck systemd |
| 03:09.18 | jm | is there any IRC network that considers spam "on topic"? |
| 03:09.19 | bsdbeard | what the hell was that |
| 03:09.28 | bsdbeard | jm, #spam probably :-) |
| 03:09.43 | bsdbeard | oh, "network" |
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| 03:10.21 | Devastator | maybe efnet :P |
| 03:10.29 | davidvj | My first day-out with Debian .. install went OK but disaster from then on. Need to set-up sudo and no package manager ... is it really necessary to make the initiation so difficult? |
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| 03:10.53 | bsdbeard | davidvj, apt-get should be there by default |
| 03:11.14 | marioxcc | davidvj: no package manager? not even apt-get? that would be strange |
| 03:11.30 | marioxcc | when I installed LXDE, I think that synaptic was installed by default |
| 03:11.32 | bsdbeard | setting up sudo is as simple as typing visudo :P |
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| 03:12.20 | davidvj | Can't use apt-get without sudo ... not even in root!! Is there a reason that synaptic is not in the basic setup? |
| 03:13.31 | bsdbeard | what does synaptic do that apt-get doesnt? I'm only vaguely familiar with synaptic |
| 03:13.45 | astings | hello guys |
| 03:14.01 | astings | gsharkdown no run in debian |
| 03:14.08 | davidvj | bsdbeard, thanks .... I guess I missed that instruction ... |
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| 03:14.17 | astings | how resolve this problem? |
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| 03:15.38 | davidvj | bsdbeard, It does provide a listing of available software ... saves guessing what will and what will-not work |
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| 03:19.11 | cwillu_at_work | greendragonfly77, can I help you? |
| 03:19.34 | greendragonfly77 | yeah, do you have a moment to speak privately |
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| 03:19.45 | cwillu_at_work | perhaps |
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| 03:51.17 | Foxhoundz | I'm trying to install Wheezy via netinstall |
| 03:51.31 | Foxhoundz | but my killer LAN (atheros based NIC) is not being detected |
| 03:51.46 | Foxhoundz | Reading the documentation shows that the alx drivers, which supports the killer lan series should've been loaded |
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| 03:52.13 | Foxhoundz | when it gives me a list of drivers to select, alx is in the list. Selecting it and hitting continue (via the GUI installaiton option) doesn't do anything and just stays on that screen. |
| 03:52.48 | astings | gsharkdown no run in debian |
| 03:52.58 | astings | how resolve this problem? |
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| 03:54.05 | newCB | can multiarch still work if I upgrade to jessie? |
| 03:55.35 | Devastator | Foxhoundz is it amd64? |
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| 03:56.00 | Foxhoundz | Yes, Devastator |
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| 03:58.19 | Devastator | Foxhoundz can you try this one? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 04:01.22 | percY-work | Should LAMP Stack be installed under root? |
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| 04:07.18 | somiaj | newCB: yes, multiarch works in jessie just like wheezy, and upgrading will upgrade all packages for both arches |
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| 04:08.27 | mangoat | hello, I am trying to resize a partition and parted throws out "File system was not cleanly unmounted! You should run e2fsck. Modifying an unclean file system could cause severe corruption.". I have run e2fsck, fsck.ext4 remounted and unmounted the partition, but I keep gettng the same error? What can I do? |
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| 04:09.20 | Foxhoundz | Devastator: no dice |
| 04:09.23 | Foxhoundz | didn't work. |
| 04:10.06 | Devastator | Foxhoundz maybe somiaj has an idea, I don't know what else to try |
| 04:10.24 | newCB | somiaj: thanks very much |
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| 04:21.01 | damo22 | how do i remove systemd and install sysvinit on jessie? |
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| 08:05.44 | Poodle2 | Question: Generating a 4096 RSA-key via ssh-keygen is very fast. But generating a 4096 RSA-key via gpg is taking so long because of entropy. Can someone tell me the reason? |
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| 08:35.05 | Rastus_Vernon | What package should I use to have the driver for a Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n chipset? The issue is documented there and there, and there are many packages containing drivers for Broadcom chipsets, but none seems to contain the driver for BCM4331. |
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| 08:38.08 | CQ | hello, what's the best way to get a key signed? Just mail some of the developers at https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers in the area? |
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| 08:45.05 | babilen | CQ: Yes, that is typically the best idea. You might also want to check if there are local LUGs/DUGs and contact them as not every DD/DM would have thought about adding themselves to that list. Another great way is to attend some FOSS conference and find a Debian boot/Debian table there. |
| 08:45.41 | CQ | babilen munich has quite a few dds listes, so that should be OK, thanks |
| 08:47.07 | babilen | Indeed, just write them and see who is around. https://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups/DebianMuc is also worth looking into. I'd recommend attending the upcoming bug squashing party. |
| 08:47.37 | babilen | I would probably do that before I started to contact individual DDs |
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| 08:48.50 | babilen | (or go to their meeting on Tuesday) |
| 08:50.16 | CQ | yeah, just saw the topic on #debian-muc |
| 08:50.34 | babilen | Viel Spaß :) |
| 08:51.37 | CQ | babilen danke... question is how to recognise the debianites :) |
| 08:52.26 | babilen | I leave that to you. Shouldn't be too hard. |
| 08:52.29 | CQ | besides lots of laptops and "will code for food"-tshirts ;) |
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| 08:55.04 | sandman13 | CQ: say something that is against Debian ;) |
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| 08:55.24 | sandman13 | see who respond |
| 08:55.27 | sandman13 | jk :D |
| 08:55.48 | Abhijit | what if they agree and just nod? |
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| 08:58.02 | CQ | perfect, something like "systemd is worse than windows" ? ;) |
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| 08:58.38 | CQ | the emacs-vim thing is so passe... |
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| 08:59.06 | sandman13 | you got it CQ |
| 08:59.43 | sandman13 | but let's not clutter the channel furthermore with our offtopic discussions ;) |
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| 09:13.57 | Rastus_Vernon | I think I found the solution to my problem, and it basically requires that I switch to testing since the bug that prevented b43 from working has only been fixed in a version that is not yet in stable… |
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| 09:28.19 | LinuxGuy2020 | I was just looking at the Live DVD images and I see you can choose one with +NonFree. WHat exactly does that mean? Does the live boot contain firmware such as wifi etc? I'm just guessing here. |
| 09:28.31 | relaxed | Rastus_Vernon: wouldn't you just need an updated kernel? |
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| 09:44.31 | CQ | http://xkcd.com/505/ this one is nice ;) |
| 09:44.42 | Disconsented | I am looking for a tool like top to monitor network io I am using nethogs atm but it shows "RECIEVED" in KB/S whilst "SENT" is just in KB (I want that as KB/S) any recommendations? |
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| 09:46.34 | Disconsented | nvm I was just reading it wrong |
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| 10:39.43 | tsun | for some reason this laptop that I took off its monitor doesn't have a good screen resolution when plugged into a VGA monitor |
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| 10:39.54 | tsun | it only shows half of it. Even in a debian tty terminal :/ |
| 10:39.58 | tsun | any ideas? |
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| 10:41.21 | tsun | It's an HP Pavilion Entertainment laptop |
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| 10:42.52 | tsun | I'm guessing it might be video hardware related, but I don't know what to do here hmm |
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| 12:05.47 | hgl | i have python 2.7 installed, but when ask debian 7.7 to install python-pip, it wants to also install python2.6. is it possible to ask it to use python2.7 instead? |
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| 12:12.19 | eb0t | hey how do i find out what version of weechat i am running from command line |
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| 12:13.41 | valdyn | eb0t: apt-cache policy weechat |
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| 12:14.04 | eb0t | thanks valdyn |
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| 12:18.33 | Icedream | sorry, amsg fail on another network my bouncer is connected to >_> |
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| 12:21.42 | micechal | Is it possible to upgrade a package to other branch without updating the whole system to that branch? |
| 12:22.21 | micechal | I'm on wheezy now but would like to install latest libav-tools from the unstable branch |
| 12:22.30 | jelly-home | ,v libav-tools |
| 12:22.31 | judd | Package: libav-tools on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 6:11-2; sid: 6:11-2; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.4.3-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.4.3-dmo1 |
| 12:23.02 | micechal | That changes a bit |
| 12:23.07 | jelly-home | micechal: if the version from wheezy-backports is good enough, use that |
| 12:23.42 | jelly-home | !tell micechal -about wheezy backports |
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| 12:23.54 | micechal | At first I misinterpreted the version naming |
| 12:24.13 | micechal | but now i see this is libav 6 release which is old |
| 12:24.26 | micechal | the newest is 11 |
| 12:24.34 | jelly-home | it's 10.1 |
| 12:24.41 | jelly-home | !epoch |
| 12:24.41 | dpkg | [epoch] a fixed point in a chronology or the start of an era. For example, y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. In Unix, epoch often refers to the time from which seconds are counted; epoch was is Jan 1 1970 and we will run out of 32 bit numbers for this on Jan 18 2038 (by which time we will have hopefully all migrated to 64-bit architectures). An epoch can also be used to help manage version numbering in Debian; ask me about <version epoch>. |
| 12:24.48 | jelly-home | argh. |
| 12:25.01 | micechal | On their site latest is 11 |
| 12:25.01 | jelly-home | micechal: ignore the number before the colon |
| 12:25.45 | micechal | So i didn't misinterpret then, I misinterpreted now :D |
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| 12:26.44 | micechal | This is really confusing me now |
| 12:26.44 | jelly-home | backports are there because it's not safe to use packages built for unstable on the current release. If you absolutely require 11, you can try making a backport yourself |
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| 12:27.09 | jelly-home | I'd suggest trying that 10.1 thing and see if it fits your needs, first |
| 12:27.14 | micechal | I'll try with the wheezy backports then |
| 12:27.36 | micechal | Hope it already had vp9 in that version :) |
| 12:27.40 | micechal | Thank you |
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| 13:02.30 | DebianUser1 | Someone is strong in LVM phisical and logical issues? |
| 13:02.51 | Abhijit | what are the issues? just ask. someone will reply |
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| 13:03.41 | DebianUser1 | Ok, i've installed debian that completely use my single hard disk with LVM logic. |
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| 13:04.17 | DebianUser1 | i need to get a new phisical volume from the lvm |
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| 13:04.29 | DebianUser1 | and install windows on it |
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| 13:04.47 | ChrisH | DebianUser1: You put Physical Volumes (PV) INTO LVM Volume Group |
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| 13:06.34 | DebianUser1 | First i think that I must resize the LVM to have space for the new Phisical volume |
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| 13:08.08 | ChrisH | DebianUser1: run vgs, lvs, blkid as root and put the result paste.debian.net please |
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| 13:09.50 | micechal | ,v libvpx |
| 13:09.51 | judd | No package named 'libvpx' was found in i386. |
| 13:10.06 | micechal | ,v libvpx-dev |
| 13:10.08 | judd | Package: libvpx-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.1-2; squeeze-multimedia: 0.9.7.p1-2.squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 1.0.0-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.0-1; sid: 1.3.0-3; jessie: 1.3.0-3 |
| 13:10.37 | micechal | What if a package is not in wheezy-backports? |
| 13:10.56 | micechal | Can i install it still? I need at least 1.3 |
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| 13:13.21 | DebianUser1 | root@debianUser:/home/debianUser# vgs |
| 13:13.22 | DebianUser1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.22 | DebianUser1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.22 | DebianUser1 | root@debianUser:/home/debianUser# lvs |
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| 13:13.22 | DebianUser1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:13.56 | Abhijit | kicking and then using "please". |
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| 13:15.57 | micechal | Should i install from sid or jessie? The version number seems the same |
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| 13:16.48 | ChrisH | micechal: you should install stable unless you know what you can expect |
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| 13:17.39 | DebianUser1 | paste.debian.net/131880 |
| 13:18.01 | micechal | ChrisH: vp9 was introduced in 1.3 but stable is 1.1 |
| 13:18.18 | micechal | And I need vp9 |
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| 13:19.14 | ChrisH | micechal: then forget my comment. |
| 13:19.27 | ChrisH | DebianUser1: please add a fdisk -l |
| 13:20.14 | micechal | If something goes terribly wrong I can always reinstall :P |
| 13:20.56 | CQ | micechal: another option is to isntall stable, run a VM in vbox, and install unstable in there |
| 13:21.43 | micechal | My resources are already constrained as I'm running this on a phone |
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| 13:21.52 | micechal | I'll try backporting |
| 13:21.54 | CQ | lol OK :) |
| 13:22.37 | jelly-home | micechal: don't install packages from jessie OR sid, you'll just break your system |
| 13:22.50 | DebianUser1 | @ChrisH http://paste.debian.net/plain/131882 |
| 13:23.19 | micechal | Building would probably take ages though... |
| 13:23.34 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport libvpx-dev |
| 13:23.35 | judd | Backporting package libvpx-dev in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 13:23.44 | micechal | In that case I can only give up |
| 13:23.51 | jelly-home | looks like a building it might work |
| 13:23.59 | CQ | micechal: can you cross-compile in a sandbox? |
| 13:24.17 | jelly-home | !tell micechal about simple sid backport |
| 13:24.38 | micechal | CQ: I don't understand, can you elaborate? |
| 13:25.25 | CQ | https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers and https://wiki.debian.org/MultiarchCrossToolchainBuild |
| 13:25.43 | CQ | that way you can build on a PC and isntall the package on the phone |
| 13:25.45 | micechal | jelly-home: from what that bot told me, seems simple |
| 13:25.54 | ChrisH | DebianUser1: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67702/how-to-reduce-volume-group-size-in-lvm shows a way to do it. I never shrinked PVs or LVs only extended. |
| 13:26.30 | Zerock | I just formatted an external drive with XFS. Why are my tools treating it like ntfs? |
| 13:26.51 | avshalom | Hi all, I want to reverse Fn key behavior at boot. I am using "echo 2 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode" with success after runtime. how do i effect this on a systemd system? |
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| 13:26.57 | micechal | CQ: Has to be done on debian on pc? |
| 13:27.08 | avshalom | (jessie) |
| 13:27.11 | ChrisH | DebianUser1: pvresize should do the job and afterwards you able to create another partition for whatever you need... ot you create a virtual machine eg. using virtual box inside debian. |
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| 13:27.23 | CQ | micechal: yes |
| 13:27.41 | CQ | micechal: that way you set up a build toolchain that can compile packages for your other device |
| 13:28.19 | micechal | I've only got debian on my server but not my pc |
| 13:28.23 | micechal | Could try that |
| 13:28.27 | micechal | thanks |
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| 13:31.46 | gebruiker_ | guys |
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| 13:32.05 | gebruiker_ | is there a kernel rep for debian wheezy that has CK buildin? |
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| 13:39.28 | micechal | Failed on step 3: http://hastebin.com/raw/hapiceziqa |
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| 13:54.33 | twisty-1 | Hi, i have a "LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI" storage controller with a HDD and a CD/DVD-ROM. Debian can't found a driver for my CD/DVD-ROM, and i can't find any drivers in the internet. How can i fix it? |
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| 13:57.17 | vtdmhd | twisty-1, what CD-Rom are you using? |
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| 13:58.33 | twisty-1 | vtd: What do you mean? Hardware? |
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| 13:58.43 | vtd | yes |
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| 13:58.55 | vtd | the controller seems to bi supported |
| 13:59.08 | twisty-1 | vtd: Don't know, it's a VPS and my provider said i have to join the #debian IRC for assistance |
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| 14:01.11 | twisty-1 | Any idea? |
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| 14:02.22 | ChrisH | twisty-1: check lspci -k to see if the controller is visible and if/which module is attached |
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| 14:03.56 | twisty-1 | SCSI Subsystem: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic Device 8000 |
| 14:04.24 | hairy-potter | hello, i use debian wheezy with xfce, and randomly windows become semi seethrough, it's completely random when it happens and i gotta close & reopen the application to get it opaque again. it's also seems variable how much seethrough it is |
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| 14:06.31 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: Is the output correct you want? |
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| 14:06.52 | xreal | !seen Debian kernel with Overlay-FS |
| 14:06.52 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'debian kernel with overlay-fs', xreal |
| 14:06.55 | xreal | d'oh |
| 14:07.09 | ChrisH | twisty-1: there should be onbe line more... paste all to paste.debian.net please |
| 14:07.40 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: I have to type it in manually, i have a remote VNC connection for fresh installations |
| 14:07.49 | twisty-1 | I'll try it |
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| 14:07.59 | ChrisH | paste a screenshot? |
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| 14:09.47 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: http://www.img-load.de/images-i1755038bi6qr0.png |
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| 14:10.53 | ChrisH | twisty-1: looks pretty different from what I see/expect. whats the output from lsb_relase -a ? |
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| 14:11.43 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: -/bin/sh: lsb_release: not found |
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| 14:12.20 | twisty-1 | But it's a 7.7 amd64 netinst |
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| 14:14.07 | xreal | What's the equal Ubuntu version of Debian Wheezy? 12.x ? |
| 14:14.16 | xreal | 12.04 ? |
| 14:14.43 | twisty-1 | xreal: Ubuntu is using "sid" and/or "experimental" packages, mostly not stable packages |
| 14:15.01 | xreal | twisty-1: hmm ok |
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| 14:17.30 | twisty-1 | xreal: You can find the Debian version on which your Ubuntu version is based in the file: /etc/debian_version |
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| 14:18.07 | twisty-1 | But most packages have newer versions in Ubuntu |
| 14:18.25 | ChrisH | xreal: you cannot really map Ubuntu to Debian. |
| 14:18.55 | twisty-1 | xreal: The latest Ubuntu version that equals Debian is 13.10 |
| 14:19.04 | twisty-1 | *Debian Wheezy |
| 14:19.23 | twisty-1 | 14.04+ is jessie |
| 14:19.38 | ChrisH | twisty-1: give me the line form spci -n | grep 00:14 |
| 14:20.07 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: 00:14.0 0100: 1000:0030 |
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| 14:22.31 | ChrisH | twisty-1: from https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI (search for 1000:0030) its mptspi which should do the job. check lsmod | grep mptspi if there is nothing try modprobe mptspi |
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| 14:26.58 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: The modules doesn't exist |
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| 14:27.32 | ojaito1 | hi everyone; i'm running latest debian 7.x. i have latest flashplugin-nonfree installed; live streams from the rosetta mission briefings and now also the world chess championship in sochi will hang after 10 seconds; chromium now complains I need flashplayer > 10.0. what is your flash video streaming solution under wheezy? |
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| 14:28.31 | twisty-1 | ojaito1: HTML5 ... Flash Player ended the support for Linux |
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| 14:29.39 | ojaito1 | twisty-1: in terms of practical steps I can take to watch game 6 of the world chess championship, which is underway now... |
| 14:30.15 | ChrisH | twisty-1: on stable it should be here: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/message/fusion/mptspi.ko |
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| 14:31.35 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/message doesn't exist |
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| 14:31.57 | ChrisH | twisty-1: depening on the kernel you installed. |
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| 14:33.16 | twisty-1 | ChrisH: Yep, doesn't ecist |
| 14:33.20 | twisty-1 | *exist |
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| 14:38.37 | ojaito1 | to answer my own question: apt-get install pepperflashplayer-nonfree, then run chromium-browser. |
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| 14:42.28 | SirLagz | so, I had a power surge kill the power in my house. Now one of my boxes won't boot back up - I get this error - Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-load.c: 772: _dl_init_paths: Assertion `pelem->dirname[0] == '/'' failed! |
| 14:42.46 | SirLagz | any ideas where I should start looking to try and fix that ? |
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| 14:43.07 | SirLagz | Debian was installed onto a USB stick, and I've pulled it out, plugged it into another machine, tried to chroot into the usb stick, but I get the same message |
| 14:43.26 | ChrisH | SirLagz: I would start with boot from a CD/rescue media and .... OK then fsck -f it |
| 14:43.37 | SirLagz | ChrisH: already did a fsck, didn't show any errors |
| 14:44.54 | WormFood | is the -Q option on wget busted in debian? I can't get it to work. |
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| 14:50.02 | SirLagz | ChrisH: no bad blocks on it either apparently |
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| 14:52.22 | ChrisH | SirLagz: dd from the stick's device is OK? like dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null bs=1m ?? |
| 14:52.30 | SirLagz | ChrisH: yep, that finished fine |
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| 14:56.34 | SirLagz | ChrisH: perhaps glibc is broken or something =/ |
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| 14:58.52 | SirLagz | damn, forgot this was an x86 box and not a x64 box too...I don't know if I have any other debian X86 boxes left to check md5sums on =/ |
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| 15:01.12 | zkx | How do I compile this file? http://pastebin.com/VKxfhyL6 |
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| 15:02.13 | kalpu | Hi, I have multistrapped debian testing (armhf) and can boot into it. Systemd just almost starts fine but "Failed to start Login Service.". How to track this down? Do I need a logind? I'm a bit confused. |
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| 15:06.18 | kalpu | ah, I need dbus :) |
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| 15:10.10 | HelloShitty | hi |
| 15:10.29 | HelloShitty | anyone around? |
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| 15:11.34 | SirLagz | HelloShitty: no. :P |
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| 15:15.28 | crwbs | hey, i think I'm screwed here. I'm locked out of my account, and the login prompt isn't showing up. |
| 15:15.45 | SirLagz | crwbs: which login prompt ? |
| 15:16.16 | crwbs | I have some work I can't loose, something mustve happened to gnome |
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| 15:17.58 | crwbs | SirLagz: gnome |
| 15:18.15 | SirLagz | crwbs: did you do any updates etc lately ? |
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| 15:19.01 | crwbs | yes, and I kept getting notifications that updates had failed |
| 15:19.17 | SirLagz | crwbs: that probably has something to do with it then... |
| 15:19.17 | mtn | crwbs: which version of debian? |
| 15:19.37 | crwbs | wheezy with some backports |
| 15:19.49 | mtn | crwbs: which video card/chip? |
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| 15:20.18 | un214 | dmraid is doing something incredibly screwball |
| 15:20.29 | crwbs | old intel one family chipset something |
| 15:20.31 | un214 | I partitioned 5 partitions |
| 15:20.34 | crwbs | sec |
| 15:20.42 | un214 | I only got 4 partition devices |
| 15:20.48 | un214 | I then partitioned 4 partitions |
| 15:20.50 | un214 | I only got 3 |
| 15:21.32 | mtn | crwbs: if it is intel, then probably not video problem. paste your updating error to http://paste.debian.net |
| 15:22.10 | un214 | anybody know how to use dmraid? |
| 15:22.27 | dury | great .... hi there channel :-) |
| 15:22.32 | hairy-potter | if you only want one partition, is it generally a good idea to not make any partitions and put the filesystem straight on the block device, eg. /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 ? |
| 15:22.37 | hairy-potter | or does it barely matter |
| 15:22.53 | crwbs | mtn: on the terminal I dont get any error, it was a popup that kept showing up |
| 15:22.55 | mtn | hairy-potter: no, make it sda1 for you root partition |
| 15:23.03 | un214 | I agree with mtn |
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| 15:23.08 | mtn | crwbs: so your updates are successful? |
| 15:23.25 | crwbs | yes |
| 15:23.46 | un214 | wow |
| 15:23.52 | mtn | crwbs: do you get to a tty if you hit ctrl+alt+F2? |
| 15:24.01 | e-anima | what backupsoftware do you use on debian to backup like remote servers to one centralized backup storage server? |
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| 15:24.47 | crwbs | mtn: I'm at one right now, gvim and other graphical programs are still running, but I'm not getting h login prompt |
| 15:25.05 | un214 | So I have /dev/mapper/garbage_Volume1 |
| 15:25.14 | un214 | and /dev/mapper/garbage_Volumne1[1-3] |
| 15:25.17 | mtn | crwbs: is gdm still installed? |
| 15:25.18 | un214 | how do I make 4 appear |
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| 15:25.46 | un214 | somehow I don't think mknod is the right answer |
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| 15:28.04 | un214 | ah this might be promising: ERROR: dos: partition entry past end of RAID device |
| 15:28.27 | un214 | apparently fdisk thinks a larger size |
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| 15:30.01 | un214 | well that makes me even more stumped |
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| 15:30.10 | un214 | somehow fdisk got it wrong and I have no clue |
| 15:30.21 | crwbs | mtn: installed ansd running |
| 15:31.02 | mtn | crwbs: running but not showing up, is that correct? not visible, anyway. |
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| 15:31.15 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
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| 15:31.46 | crwbs | crwbs: at the login screen I see the time changing, so something must be working |
| 15:31.53 | un214 | so how do I use dmraid to find out how big a RAID device is? |
| 15:32.31 | mtn | crwbs: please paste your sources.list to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 15:35.54 | crwbs | mtn:I'm writing from my tablet, I'll switch to the terminal |
| 15:36.00 | un214 | ?!? dmraid -r says 195352166 sectors and fdisk says the partition ends on sector 1953519879 |
| 15:36.21 | un214 | something's incredibly wrong |
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| 15:44.53 | dury | running wheezy in this laptop > http://www.toshiba.eu/discontinued-products/satellite-2410-303/ a bit slow... (never mind) Mate Desktop Environment. The question is how to autologin without typing user and pwd |
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| 15:46.02 | dury | I tried, tried and tried... and not success :-( |
| 15:46.40 | mtn | dury: I don't use mate, but there should be a way to set it in system settings. usually under Users or Login. which desktop manager are you using? |
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| 15:49.44 | dury | mtn: desktop manager... you mean where I type user & pwd at the beginning, is that right? |
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| 15:50.31 | un214 | is there way to build dmraid while booted from cd? |
| 15:51.03 | mtn | dury: yes, like gdm, kdm, etc. |
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| 15:51.22 | un214 | because it's diagnositic is erroneus |
| 15:51.26 | mtn | dury: they all have config files where you can set things like autologin, if I am not mistaken |
| 15:51.33 | un214 | and I want to make it print out the numbers it's using for it |
| 15:51.55 | dury | mtn: right... hang on one sec. please |
| 15:52.46 | un214 | what did I do, piss a bunch of people off? |
| 15:53.01 | un214 | !dmraid |
| 15:53.01 | dpkg | Fakeraid is a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS. For use with Debian systems, it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID instead; ask me about <md>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
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| 15:53.50 | dury | mtn: right!! it's lightdm |
| 15:53.56 | un214 | !md |
| 15:53.56 | dpkg | "Multidisk Device" (MD) is commonly used to describe the software <RAID> facilities available in the Linux kernel. To establish a software RAID array at Debian installation time, see section 6.3.3.4 of the <install guide>. See also <mdadm>. http://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ #linux-raid on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:54.08 | cinnamonrollz | Can Anyone suggest a good vps service that I can use alongside open vpn and dm-crypt? |
| 15:54.10 | mtn | dury: should be easy to research how lightdm handles that. |
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| 15:54.25 | mtn | un214: if you want to query the bot, please use /msg dpkg |
| 15:54.30 | cinnamonrollz | I suppuse any vps would do |
| 15:54.38 | cinnamonrollz | but ive not porchased one before |
| 15:54.45 | cinnamonrollz | *purchased |
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| 15:55.12 | mtn | un214: no pms please. |
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| 15:56.01 | dury | mtn: right!! believe me...but I've tried several times and not success.. gesssss :-( |
| 15:56.01 | un214 | well I'm still completely stuck |
| 15:56.44 | mtn | dury: have you looked at the arch wiki entry for lightdm? I would start there. |
| 15:56.57 | dury | mtn: can you assist me, please |
| 15:57.21 | mtn | un214: if anyone had an answer for you they would respond. perhaps you could find a channel that handles raid questions? |
| 15:57.32 | mtn | dury: sorry, no. I don't use lightdm or mate. |
| 15:57.50 | dury | mtn: tel me what to do and I will paste for you |
| 15:57.59 | un214 | ok I have enough information to file bug against dmraid |
| 15:58.21 | dury | gesssss :-( |
| 15:58.40 | ChrisH | un214: I did not get the whole story, are you trying to recover or doing a fresh installation? |
| 15:58.49 | un214 | fresh install |
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| 15:58.57 | un214 | trying to partition a dmraid device |
| 15:59.07 | mtn | dury: why not go read the wiki I mentioned? |
| 15:59.20 | ChrisH | un214: then get away from fakeraid and use mdraid... This will save you tons of problems. |
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| 16:00.01 | dury | mtn: which wiki which url is? |
| 16:00.13 | un214 | according to my documentation the bios somehow knows which disk write failed when you have a torn write, and MD raid requires a complete raid recheck on any power failure |
| 16:00.17 | mtn | dury: have you looked at the arch wiki entry for lightdm? I would start there. |
| 16:00.32 | mtn | dury: I assume you can use google, yes? |
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| 16:00.49 | un214 | is this not the case? |
| 16:00.51 | ChrisH | un214: If you know it better.... have fun with your BIOS raid. |
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| 16:09.20 | dontknow | is it possible to backup current downloaded package and reinstall system using netinstall cd with backuped packages? |
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| 16:09.54 | dontknow | so that it wouldn't have to download packages again |
| 16:10.01 | dury | mtn: isn't that for Archlinux user? |
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| 16:14.04 | dury | mt: .....Archlinux users, I mean |
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| 16:16.22 | Spida | what is "ntpd_intres[pid]: send to NTP server failed: Operation not permitted" suposed to tell me? port 123 outgoing is allowed in any packetfilters... |
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| 16:17.49 | wols | are you starting ntpd as root? |
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| 16:19.52 | Spida | wols: it gets started by the init script |
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| 16:20.10 | dfh | banging my head against sudo. got the following in sudoers: "backup localhost NOPASSWD: /bin/mount". still asks for a password. if i change "localhost" -> "ALL", it works. so it seems not to resolve localhost correctly. any pointers? |
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| 16:20.23 | Spida | wols: seems to drop privileges, though |
| 16:20.39 | wols | if it's started as root, then all is fine |
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| 16:20.59 | wols | or rather, then it must be some other problem |
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| 16:26.58 | Spida | wols: i cannot get anything from ntpd by using ntpq, either |
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| 16:47.05 | SirLagz | the file /var/lib/dpkg/status has all the information on the packages that have been installed ? |
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| 16:47.22 | frangor | hello |
| 16:47.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, yes |
| 16:47.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't wreck it |
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| 16:50.42 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
| 16:50.54 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: the system is already wrecked :P I need to recover it haha |
| 16:51.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's wrong with it |
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| 16:51.29 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: not booting up after a power outage |
| 16:52.03 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: gets this error on bootup - Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-load.c: 772: _dl_init_paths: Assertion `pelem->dirname[0] == '/'' failed! |
| 16:52.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh |
| 16:52.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | what filesystem is that... have you checked it? |
| 16:52.50 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: ext3/4 and yes |
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| 16:54.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, that should be pretty robust... as I remember... you can even run the ext2 checks on it, then regenerate the journal? |
| 16:55.08 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah I thought it was pretty robust |
| 16:55.20 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: but somethings corrupted somewhere. I'm suspecting something with libc |
| 16:55.45 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: would regenerating the journal help with file corruption ? |
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| 16:57.22 | qjqqyy | ,v apache2 |
| 16:57.23 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; squeeze-security-lts: 2.2.16-6+squeeze14; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u3; jessie: 2.4.10-7; sid: 2.4.10-7 |
| 16:57.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, what does e2fsck tell about it? |
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| 16:58.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I guess you have to boot into some type of rescue system to do anything on it |
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| 16:58.49 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: the install is on a USB stick, so I've just pulled it out and plugged it into a different machine |
| 16:59.10 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: e2fsck thinks it's all good |
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| 16:59.48 | dryzer | Hi |
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| 17:01.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, was that e2fsck -f -p? |
| 17:01.09 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: just a -f |
| 17:01.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, weird |
| 17:01.32 | SirLagz | USB media - not the most reliable haha |
| 17:01.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe just some sector(s) of the usb drive died |
| 17:01.51 | dryzer | Do you know how to upgrade a package with multiple dependences under Debian Lenny? |
| 17:01.51 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: nope, did a badblock scan, and also did a full dd of the usb stick and no issues |
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| 17:01.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | weird |
| 17:02.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you couldn't run *any* commands from within? |
| 17:02.28 | dryzer | I'm trying to upgrade g++ to v4.7 under Lenny |
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| 17:02.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, you could try to chroot into it to get a more "inside" view, I guess |
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| 17:03.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | dryzer, Lenny has not been supported since 2006 /o\ |
| 17:04.05 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: chroot gets the same error message |
| 17:04.34 | dryzer | CutMeOwnThroat: yes I know but I must do that. The server can't be upgrade |
| 17:04.37 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: i can't boot into the install at all, it fails right after grub pretty much |
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| 17:05.46 | jelly-home | dryzer: what will you do with said g++ 4.7 once it's installed? |
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| 17:06.34 | dryzer | jelly-home: I must compile a nodejs module |
| 17:06.54 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: lenny has not been supported since 2012, actually |
| 17:06.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, doesn't even (necessarily) sound like it's a file content |
| 17:07.05 | dryzer | jelly-home: in fact it's because Lenny use GLIBC under 2.13 |
| 17:07.39 | jelly-home | dryzer: interesting, how did you build node.js in the first place? |
| 17:07.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, errr, yes. I was looking at the factoid but mangled the numbers |
| 17:07.49 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: from what I've found by googling, this message comes up when there's corruption in libc |
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| 17:08.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, well, you could try debsums, I guess... |
| 17:08.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell SirLagz about debsums |
| 17:08.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | it has a -r option |
| 17:08.56 | dryzer | jelly-home: I update python to v2.7, and after ./configure + make install for the last version of nodejs |
| 17:09.04 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: that would check it against the current running system though wouldn't it ? |
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| 17:09.30 | jelly-home | dryzer: so you already installed packages from a release newer than lenny? |
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| 17:10.56 | dryzer | jelly-home: yes :( and I would like to release a special version for Debian Lenny and Squeeze (I must recompile modules for nodejs with a npm install) |
| 17:11.28 | jelly-home | dryzer: I'd set up a wheezy chroot, rebuild and run node.js inside that instead of on the lenny system. That requires you're running a kernel >= 2.6.30 or so |
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| 17:11.54 | jelly-home | ,v g++-4.7 |
| 17:11.55 | judd | Package: g++-4.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5; sid: 4.7.4-3 |
| 17:12.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, <CutMeOwnThroat> it has a -r option |
| 17:12.56 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: -r sets root...but the -p option does what I need i think |
| 17:13.21 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: debsums would have to get checksums from somewhere, and the usb instal is a x86 install while my running system is a x64 |
| 17:13.32 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: which is why I thought i might have issues |
| 17:13.35 | jelly-home | dryzer: you can use schroot (or debootstrap a chroot manually) to set up such an environment |
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| 17:14.34 | dryzer | jelly-home: ok |
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| 17:14.41 | dryzer | jelly-home: thank you |
| 17:14.44 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: i'm just hoping I have the deb files for everything on that system... |
| 17:14.47 | dryzer | I will try |
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| 17:15.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, I've not used it a lot, but -r is what you should need. -p looks for local debs, I've not checked up on it, but usually I thought it's getting the md5sums from the net |
| 17:15.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, err, it gets them from /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums, as the manpage says of course |
| 17:16.03 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: which would be on my running system and not on the system I'm trying to rescue in this case |
| 17:16.30 | SirLagz | unless the checksums in /var/lib/.../*.md5sums have both x86 and x64 |
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| 17:18.41 | SirLagz | CutMeOwnThroat: hmm it only found 2 files that have changed, and one is part of a kernel that I'm not using |
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| 17:23.29 | SirLagz | I give up for now. Might just rebuild it from scratch :( |
| 17:24.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell ompaul about awe |
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| 17:24.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell SirLagz about reinstall everything |
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| 17:25.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | SirLagz, I don't see that that'll help a lot if the files it'll install are identical anyway |
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| 17:26.44 | ompaul | looks in CutMeOwnThroat's direction |
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| 17:29.00 | Guest6907 | Hello, I'm running on Debian jessie and my sound does not work. My lspci -v output looks like this: http://pastebin.com/EC9jAzUD. Anyone have and idea how I can troubleshoot it? |
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| 17:30.27 | mtn | Guest6907: you can start here: https://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ |
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| 17:32.01 | Guest6907 | I went through each step except the one mentioning alsaconf, because it links to a dead link... |
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| 17:34.51 | mtn | Guest6907: check sound settings, pavucontrol and alsamixer (command line) |
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| 17:36.50 | mr_foobar_baz | Hi, I want apt to connect to the mirrors using https instead of http. I changed the http:// to https:// in my /etc/apt/sources.list and installed apt-transport-https, but when I try to apt-get update, I get Err https://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages |
| 17:36.55 | mr_foobar_baz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:38.02 | mr_foobar_baz | I tried to force apt to use ipv4, but it doesn't work. I suppose the mirrors always resolve to a ipv6 address when using ssl for some reason... |
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| 17:38.34 | mofino | nope |
| 17:38.38 | mofino | SSL is just a port |
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| 17:39.12 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: then why doesn't it work? |
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| 17:39.40 | mofino | you received an error message that clearly states what the problem is |
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| 17:40.29 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: it tries to connect to an unreachable ipv6 address which it is unreachable, right? but why does it do that? |
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| 17:41.07 | mofino | you're asking me like i know your network configuration |
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| 17:42.52 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: What parts of my network configuration are relevant in this case? It is using my router as nameserver, which, I think, in turn uses my providers nameservers |
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| 17:43.40 | mofino | it's defaulting to ipv6, you probably have v6 configured on that machine |
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| 17:44.50 | mofino | can force name resolution to use ipv4 if you want |
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| 17:45.15 | mofino | but it might be better to shutdown v6 if you can |
| 17:45.32 | mofino | unless your ISP is providing it |
| 17:45.43 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: could it be that security.debian.org and ftp.debian.org don't support https? |
| 17:45.52 | mofino | maybe, but that's not the problem |
| 17:45.58 | mr_foobar_baz | ok |
| 17:46.15 | mr_foobar_baz | how I'll try to disable ipv6 then |
| 17:46.26 | mr_foobar_baz | if I haven't done so already |
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| 17:46.40 | Katharsis | hi |
| 17:46.41 | mofino | give it a try, if you can't figure it out, you can force DNS resolution to use ipv4 |
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| 17:47.08 | Katharsis | i just connect my new Acer monitor (1680x1050) to VGA notebook |
| 17:47.36 | Katharsis | it works on Debian too, but do you know how can I fix the blur effect? |
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| 17:48.36 | mofino | Katharsis, has nothing to do with software |
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| 17:49.41 | Katharsis | mofino: whats about the hertz refresh? |
| 17:49.47 | mofino | nothing to do with it |
| 17:49.59 | mofino | VGA is analog |
| 17:50.14 | mofino | VGA compared to HDMI is like dialup compared to fibre |
| 17:50.22 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: I tried disabling it by adding a few lines to /etc/sysctl.conf and running sysctl -p as described in https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 (At the end of the page). I still get the same errors. Should I still try rebooting? |
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| 17:50.34 | mofino | is it actually disabled? |
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| 17:50.50 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: How can I check? |
| 17:51.34 | mofino | sysctl -a |grep disable_ipv6 as root |
| 17:51.44 | jelly-home | !tell mr_foobar_baz about noipv6 |
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| 17:51.52 | mofino | jelly-home, ahh nice |
| 17:52.32 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: that returns the lines including disable_ipv6 that I just added to the sysctl.conf file. So it should be disabled??? |
| 17:52.42 | mofino | jesus man |
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| 17:53.16 | mofino | the point of looking up that information is to know what the values are |
| 17:53.54 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e89a94f4f4b4703cd1d9 |
| 17:54.45 | mofino | i presume ipv4 should be working now, but obviously it's now |
| 17:54.46 | mofino | not* |
| 17:55.01 | mr_foobar_baz | jelly-home: What do you mean with "noipv6" ? |
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| 17:55.30 | jelly-home | mr_foobar_baz: you got a private message from dpkg, the bot. Possibly in a separate tab or "window". Read it. |
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| 17:56.29 | mr_foobar_baz | jelly-home: ah, yes. that was described on the wiki page too, but requires a reboot. also the sysctl.conf alternative was described, which doesn't require a reboot so I used that one |
| 17:57.09 | mofino | can shutdown the ipv6 internet |
| 17:57.14 | mofino | ... interface* |
| 17:58.18 | jelly-home | mr_foobar_baz: that alternative has an issue in that it does not work, AFAIR |
| 17:59.53 | mr_foobar_baz | jelly-home: oh, ok. I'll try the grub option |
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| 18:03.03 | mr_foobar_baz | rebooting, brb |
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| 18:05.26 | mr_foobar_baz | back |
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| 18:06.23 | mr_foobar_baz | ok, so I disabled ipv6 using the kernel option. Now I just get the error "couldn't connect to host". So I suppose that ftp.debian.org doesn't support https? |
| 18:06.50 | Dagger | rolls eyes |
| 18:06.51 | jelly-home | mr_foobar_baz: it doesn't. Should it? |
| 18:06.53 | Dagger | now go reenable v6 |
| 18:07.12 | babilen | mr_foobar_baz: And it is typically preferred if you use a local mirror anyway |
| 18:07.22 | jelly-home | mr_foobar_baz: I mean, did you see a reference anywhere that mirror is reachable over https ? |
| 18:07.29 | Dagger | apt-get reports the *last* connection error. if you have no public v6 address, it tries v4 first (for obvious reasons) and then tries v6 last (because hey, why not, it might work) |
| 18:07.55 | Dagger | then it stupidly reports only the v6 connection error, which makes everybody immediately go "disable the v6s!!" -.- |
| 18:07.57 | jelly-home | Dagger: what if I have a NAT66 address? |
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| 18:08.21 | mr_foobar_baz | jelly-home: no, but I haven't seen any saying that it isn't either. |
| 18:08.22 | Dagger | then you're being dumb. turn the NAT66 off and use public addresses |
| 18:08.23 | jelly-home | Dagger: and a default route for ipv6 that works? |
| 18:08.34 | CissWit | it it still a good practice to disable ipv6 if you are not using it anyway |
| 18:08.42 | jelly-home | Dagger: I don't have a public address, only NAT66. |
| 18:09.14 | mr_foobar_baz | CissWit: why? |
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| 18:09.24 | Dagger | then get one; there's really no sane reason to subject yourself to NAT in v6 |
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| 18:09.47 | Dagger | but the answer appears to be that it'll try v4 first unless you manually edit the preferences in /etc/gai.conf |
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| 18:10.07 | CissWit | mr_foobar_baz: it is always a good practice to disable what you don't use. |
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| 18:10.56 | Dagger | "not using v6" isn't a good practice in itself though... |
| 18:11.40 | jelly-home | Dagger: I'm not a network admin and cannot discuss sanity of policy. The fact is, it would be nice if the resolver tried ipv6 in this situation. |
| 18:11.58 | mr_foobar_baz | CissWit: I disagree. If I wanted to disable every feature of a standard debian system that I don't use I'd have to spend a lot of time with no real benefit. |
| 18:12.51 | mofino | Dagger, v6 probably needs to be disabled if his router is handing it out without his ISP providing it |
| 18:13.19 | Dagger | mofino: it's not, though, from what I saw of the above conversation |
| 18:14.01 | mofino | well that's odd, why was it preferring v6 then? |
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| 18:14.15 | Dagger | it wasn't |
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| 18:14.30 | Dagger | [18:07:36] <Dagger> apt-get reports the *last* connection error. if you have no public v6 address, it tries v4 first (for obvious reasons) and then tries v6 last (because hey, why not, it might work) |
| 18:14.36 | mofino | are you sure? he came in here with a connection error relating to v6 |
| 18:14.40 | Dagger | very |
| 18:14.47 | Dagger | if it was preferring v6, it'd report a v4 connection error |
| 18:14.56 | mofino | that doesn't even make sense |
| 18:15.18 | mofino | 12:36 < mr_foobar_baz> Failed to connect to 2001:a78:5:1:216:35ff:fe7f:6ceb: Network is unreachableY |
| 18:15.29 | mofino | name resolution uses v6 over v4 |
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| 18:15.47 | CissWit | mr_foobar_baz: IPv6 is a feature that expose your system on the network. Even if you don't use it or don't configure it, it is still reachable over local network. It might be an issue with laptop or servers in the cloud that might not be alone on their local network. If you configure a firewall or any security policy for IPv4 and not for IPv6 without disabling it, you might be exposing yourself. That's why i |
| 18:15.50 | CissWit | was saying it is a good practice. |
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| 18:16.04 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: If it did, it wouldn't work with http:// mirror addresses either |
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| 18:16.35 | Dagger | mofino: apt-get always reports the last error. in his case, it tried v4 first (and failed, because no https://), then it tried v6 (which failed because of no v6) |
| 18:16.38 | mofino | well, i don't know what to tell you, SSL is a port, has nothing to do with what comes back from DNS |
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| 18:16.44 | Dagger | mofino: then it reported the v6 error, because the v6 error happened last |
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| 18:17.16 | mofino | whatever the case, he was attempting to connect to a v6 address without having routable v6 |
| 18:17.35 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: because ipv4 address wasn't reachable. so it tried v6 |
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| 18:17.44 | Dagger | mofino: yes... which doesn't suggest that his router was handing out v6 |
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| 18:17.57 | mofino | well it does for me, I don't have this problem |
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| 18:19.10 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: you are probably not using https:// mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:19.14 | Dagger | mofino: do you have v6? |
| 18:19.17 | sotto | If anyone is using Debian xfce could you check the default keyboard settings for "Enable key repeat" |
| 18:19.21 | mofino | dagger, it's enabled but not configured |
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| 18:19.36 | Dagger | mofino: try blocking your mirror's v4 address and doing `apt-get update` then |
| 18:19.37 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: or you are using mirrors that support https, while I tried using https://ftp.debian.org which doesn't support it |
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| 18:19.47 | Dagger | (blocking with iptables) |
| 18:19.59 | mofino | mr_foobar_baz, yes, using SSL for mirrors is silly anyway |
| 18:20.27 | mofino | dagger, it doesn't hit v6 |
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| 18:21.23 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: silly, why? less plaintext traffic -> more privacy |
| 18:21.34 | mofino | SSL trust chain |
| 18:22.01 | Dagger | mofino: (I'm installing a v4-only container, let me see what it does for me) |
| 18:22.27 | mr_foobar_baz | afaik if I am using http for the mirrors, a mitm attacker on the LAN could see what packages and versions I am installing which is valuable information |
| 18:22.27 | mofino | mr_foobar_baz, only use SSL mirrors with CA certificates |
| 18:23.00 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: yes, I tried a couple. with most I got errors about having no cert. now I found one that doesn't give me an error |
| 18:23.02 | mofino | mr_foobar_baz, yeah they could, depends on your level of paranoia i guess |
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| 18:23.34 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: my thinking is that if it is easy to increase security, why not do it? |
| 18:23.39 | mofino | NSA et al collect netflow information, deeper in specific cases |
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| 18:25.07 | mofino | I suppose SSL provides a slight protection against DNS attacks |
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| 18:26.18 | mr_foobar_baz | I think it is more likely to be attacked on the LAN you are on than remotely. And probably not by the NSA. |
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| 18:26.42 | mofino | and how realistic is a LAN attack for you? |
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| 18:27.10 | mr_foobar_baz | since I am connecting to other LANs in offices, etc., quite plausible |
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| 18:27.29 | Dagger | apt-get already checks authenticity of packages, so it's not possible to MITM and replace them |
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| 18:27.36 | mofino | you are using a series of HUBs or full broadcast switches? (doubt it) |
| 18:27.51 | Dagger | but frankly... even though it's only package updates, nobody has any business looking at your traffic, so it should just be https:// |
| 18:27.52 | mofino | Dagger, it's the information leak |
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| 18:28.05 | mr_foobar_baz | Dagger: probably not, but at least it could reveal what packages and what versions I am using |
| 18:28.16 | Dagger | (there's also the "oh, he's using $xyz, I know a vuln in that" aspect, I guess) |
| 18:28.21 | mr_foobar_baz | Dagger: exactly. |
| 18:28.30 | mofino | pretty far stretch |
| 18:28.44 | mofino | reality is, most attacks come from phish related entry |
| 18:29.16 | Dagger | yeah, I tacked an "I guess" onto the end for a reason |
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| 18:29.42 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: depends. in a business espionage kind of scenario, LAN attacks could be quite reasonable I think |
| 18:29.44 | Dagger | since you can always just scan for network-facing vulnerabilities |
| 18:30.00 | mofino | vulnerabilities are business now, anyone with glorious remote holes in major server software are going to be them secret |
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| 18:30.23 | mofino | lowly desktop users are targetted by spammers / malware |
| 18:30.45 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: also, if a remote attacker succeeds in gaining access to one machine in a LAN, then that machine could be used for MITM attacks on the other machines |
| 18:30.53 | mofino | how so? |
| 18:31.03 | mofino | MITM means you use them for something |
| 18:31.29 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: sniffing the network traffic of the other machines |
| 18:31.43 | mofino | how is that 'in the middle'? |
| 18:31.44 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: which inevitably contains valuable information |
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| 18:31.49 | LinuxGuy2020 | Is it possible to use "apt-get install -d <package-name>, but be ablwe to specify what folder the packages are downloaded to instead of the default /var/cache/apt/archives folder? |
| 18:31.55 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: arp poisoning is used to do so |
| 18:31.56 | mofino | again, do you have hubs at your office? |
| 18:32.07 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: yes |
| 18:32.11 | mofino | ARP poisoning doesn't work nearly as well as people think |
| 18:32.21 | mofino | you don't have hubs |
| 18:32.26 | mofino | they haven't made hubs in a decade |
| 18:32.31 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: I tried it on my own network and it worked fine |
| 18:32.43 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: then switches |
| 18:32.58 | mofino | how did you do it? |
| 18:33.18 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: don't remember the details but you can google it |
| 18:33.23 | mofino | oh right... |
| 18:33.49 | mofino | do you remember if you convinced all machines on your network of your ARP change? |
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| 18:34.08 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: in any case, I think we should expect attacks to come from the LAN as well as the internet |
| 18:34.23 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: I think only the target machine |
| 18:35.08 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: so it sends all it's "internet" traffic through me first |
| 18:35.27 | mofino | but you aren't talking back |
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| 18:38.50 | iveevue | Any reason why my logs aren't working? This is a fresh install and ls on /var/log shows all as size 0... |
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| 18:39.04 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: iirc bruce schneier wrote in an article that he opened his wifi AP because he thinks that you should be secure against other machines on your own network anyways |
| 18:39.34 | mr_foobar_baz | mofino: what do you mean |
| 18:39.46 | mr_foobar_baz | iveevue: permissions problem? |
| 18:40.05 | mr_foobar_baz | iveevue: what does this return? ls -al /var/ | grep log |
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| 18:40.32 | iveevue | root:root 0755 from the looks of it |
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| 18:41.13 | iveevue | Inside /var/log they are mainly root:root or root:adm, permissions allow owner rw |
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| 18:42.52 | mr_foobar_baz | iveevue: and you probably haven't done chattr +i /var/log ? |
| 18:43.03 | iveevue | Not that I know of |
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| 18:43.37 | mr_foobar_baz | can you write files in /var/log manually? |
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| 18:44.04 | iveevue | sudo touch /var/log/abc seems to work fine |
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| 18:44.20 | iveevue | so does writing to said file |
| 18:44.38 | mr_foobar_baz | then idk, sorry. |
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| 18:45.19 | Dagger | mofino: Cannot initiate the connection to ftp.uk.debian.org:80 (2001:1b40:5600:ff80:f8ee::1). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:1b40:5600:ff80:f8ee::1 80] |
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| 18:45.24 | Dagger | that's from my v4-only VM |
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| 18:51.21 | Dagger | or am I going to have to whip out tcpdump to get a record of it trying v4 first :/ |
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| 19:04.38 | canolucas | # j #fedora |
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| 19:06.23 | mr_foobar_baz | canolucas: yes. there is a way. |
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| 19:06.59 | canolucas | mr_foobar_baz, excelent. please don't make me guess it :) |
| 19:07.00 | mr_foobar_baz | canolucas: at the very least you should be able to detect when HDMI is connected, and then tell pulseaudio to switch to the HDMI output |
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| 19:08.25 | mr_foobar_baz | canolucas: you can switch the output using pacmd. and you can detect the HDMI connection by parsing the output of xrandr. |
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| 19:09.05 | canolucas | mr_foobar_baz: great. One more thing: Do you know if there is an already programmed script that I could install to do the job? So i don't have to do it myself, coz it would save me a lot of time ! |
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| 19:10.16 | mr_foobar_baz | canolucas: not as far as I know. although I have some scripts that do somewhat similar things. perhaps they could help you a little |
| 19:10.22 | mr_foobar_baz | canolucas: want me to gist them? |
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| 19:11.51 | canolucas | mr_foobar_baz: You don't need to. I found some software named "pulseaudio" that does the job |
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| 19:12.18 | canolucas | Thanks a lot ! |
| 19:12.23 | mr_foobar_baz | canolucas: lol. PA can do what you need out of the box? |
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| 19:12.37 | canolucas | indeed |
| 19:12.40 | mr_foobar_baz | cool |
| 19:12.51 | canolucas | ty |
| 19:12.55 | mr_foobar_baz | np |
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| 19:15.00 | Halma | hello all |
| 19:15.03 | mr_foobar_baz | hi |
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| 19:15.30 | Halma | how i can enable wlan without using the "FN" function keys .. is there anyway to do so ? |
| 19:16.15 | sydney | Halma: If the bios shut down the card, no. |
| 19:16.15 | teraflops | Halma: yes, on the bios a fn keys behavoiur option may be available |
| 19:16.40 | Halma | in the bios is nothing about FN keys :( |
| 19:16.48 | troete | "rfkill unblock wlan" might work |
| 19:16.50 | teraflops | Halma: oh thats sound rfkill related |
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| 19:18.11 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: wicd also has a button to enable/disable wifi using rfkill. |
| 19:18.14 | Halma | before i had the wireless mini pci express card working , but after some time lspci doesnt show anymore the card, i opened the netbook and replaced the card with a different card but no changes also not with an live system |
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| 19:18.50 | Halma | lspci is no more showing the wlan card and also not the new one |
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| 19:19.24 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: do you have your mainboard chipset drivers installed? |
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| 19:19.31 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: does it show in lsusb? |
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| 19:19.48 | Halma | sorry its an mini pci express card |
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| 19:19.57 | mr_foobar_baz | yes... |
| 19:20.01 | Halma | so i think lsusb is wrong here but i can try |
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| 19:20.12 | mr_foobar_baz | just in case |
| 19:20.18 | Halma | i try |
| 19:20.22 | Halma | just some seconds |
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| 19:21.40 | Halma | no, lsusb doenst not show the card and also lspci |
| 19:21.52 | mr_foobar_baz | ok |
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| 19:22.55 | mr_foobar_baz | try if it shows up when running a recent livecd of e.g. ubuntu |
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| 19:23.10 | Halma | i did with system rescue , but also not shown |
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| 19:23.29 | mr_foobar_baz | (ubuntu should support most hardware ootb because it includes non-free drivers) |
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| 19:23.51 | mr_foobar_baz | just to see if it is a hardware failure or missing drivers |
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| 19:24.11 | Halma | so far i know lspci doesnt need a driver to show devices |
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| 19:25.12 | Halma | rfkill unblock wlan ... no changes |
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| 19:25.25 | Halma | lspci doesnt show the card .. strange |
| 19:25.29 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: are you running wheezy? |
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| 19:26.06 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: trying it with a recent version of ubuntu or similar couldn't hurt tho |
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| 19:26.31 | Halma | 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 smp Debian 3.2.63+deb7u1 i686 gnu/linux |
| 19:26.37 | Halma | uname output |
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| 19:26.51 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:27.04 | Halma | 7.7 |
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| 19:27.39 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: that's wheezy then. so you could be missing some OOTB support for newer hardware like what I have. |
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| 19:27.51 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: I had some issues with USB, dual screen, etc. |
| 19:27.57 | Halma | something tells me to open the netbook and try to clean the pci express slot |
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| 19:28.01 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: try the linux kernel from wheezy-backports |
| 19:28.05 | Halma | yeah but the lspci shows the card before |
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| 19:28.14 | Halma | thats the strange point |
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| 19:28.33 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: I told you, try it with a recent ubuntu livecd to see if it is a hardware or software issue |
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| 19:28.41 | Halma | ill reply after i cleaned the pci slot |
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| 19:28.47 | Halma | just some mintes |
| 19:28.47 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: i doubt its a hardware issue but ok |
| 19:28.51 | Halma | *minutes |
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| 19:29.24 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: 3.2 is an old kernel. In most cases you will need the kernel from backports to get current desktop hardware to work properly |
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| 19:30.04 | Halma | all begans with "bad password" from wicd ... then after a while lspci was no more showing the card ... strange |
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| 19:30.31 | Halma | ok let me clean the slot and then i will try lspci again |
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| 19:32.40 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: this is how you enable backports: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 19:33.37 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: instructions how to install new kernel: https://scottlinux.com/2013/11/23/how-to-install-newer-kernel-from-debian-wheezy-backports/ |
| 19:33.56 | mr_foobar_baz | Halma: ofc if you don't have 64bit you have to install the 32bit kernel instead |
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| 19:34.53 | [1]Bret | Hey guys, trying to disable speedstep/enable the performance governor on Debian 7.5 yet whatever I've followed seems to have not worked and cpufreq-info reports that each core is still being governed by powersave. Some ideas / other bits to try would be great! |
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| 19:38.03 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, using cpufreq-utils? what is output from `cpufreq-info` |
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| 19:38.58 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, using cpufrequtils |
| 19:39.08 | [1]Bret | http://pastebin.com/Vi35j5Xj |
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| 19:39.18 | marioxcc | hello |
| 19:39.24 | [1]Bret | It has 8 cores but all report the same info so left those out |
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| 19:39.51 | marioxcc | what's the name of the shell which prints a lists of current objects when doing autocompletion (almost all do this) AND allows the user to interactively select one with cursor arrows? |
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| 19:40.34 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, you can config the daemon here: /etc/default/cpufrequtils |
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| 19:40.55 | [1]Bret | I already have performance set in there, PryMar56 |
| 19:41.16 | [1]Bret | I've tried everything I can find on the internet to change it over but nothing seems to be making the change "stick" |
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| 19:42.13 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, there might be another system trying to compete with it |
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| 19:42.30 | ix | marioxcc: zsh does this, at least. |
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| 19:42.43 | Halma | so i cleaned the slot and replaced the old wireless pci express card , lspci no shows the card .... no comments XD -.- |
| 19:42.50 | Halma | -no |
| 19:42.53 | Halma | is showing |
| 19:42.59 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, look in lsmod | grep pow |
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| 19:43.19 | marioxcc | ix: ok, thanks, do you know if that's the one used by default in Arch's installer? |
| 19:43.24 | Halma | sorry , i mean lspci show the card now -.- |
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| 19:43.43 | teraflops | oh that's fine Halma |
| 19:43.46 | [1]Bret | Ah hmm, http://pastebin.com/nFTfDbQz - looks like I may have a bigger problem, PryMar56? |
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| 19:43.52 | Halma | and also did cmos reset, by removing the battery |
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| 19:44.30 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, and enumerate here: find /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/cpufreq -name "*.ko" |
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| 19:44.39 | Halma | lg x130 has weak password protection by the way i regonized, just removing the battery will also detroy the password ... securyti weakness |
| 19:45.02 | Halma | sorry my english and typos |
| 19:45.53 | [1]Bret | PryMar56, I'm starting think this error may be an OVH specific issue due to them using non-default kernels, just looking at something now |
| 19:46.00 | ix | marioxcc: I'm sorry, I have close to zero knowledge about arch, so I can't tell you. If you have access to run commands, you could try looking at the $SHELL environment variable, i.e. running 'echo $SHELL'. |
| 19:46.01 | [1]Bret | but when I google that error, there are a lot of OVH forum posts |
| 19:46.21 | Halma | thank you all for your help |
| 19:46.36 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, I use the powersave governor, and lsmod show cpufreq_powersave loaded |
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| 19:47.39 | marioxcc | ix: Thanks you. Don't worry, I asked in the channel, it's indeed zsh. |
| 19:47.48 | marioxcc | (Arch "Linux" channel) |
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| 19:48.18 | [1]Bret | Ah, on one of OVH's own kernels/OS, PryMar56? lsmod provides me with the same error as previously mentioned. /proc/modules just doesnt exist |
| 19:48.57 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, throttling is meaningless on your env |
| 19:49.16 | PryMar56 | its out of your control |
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| 19:50.35 | ix | marioxcc: No problem :-) if you are intending to change to zsh as your default shell, you should check out the oh-my-zsh repository on github. |
| 19:50.36 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, same as in AWS, its meaningless there |
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| 19:51.11 | marioxcc | ix: I'm just taking a look at different shells. Which one do you prefer personally and why? |
| 19:51.50 | [1]Bret | I'm not sure if I follow exactly, PryMar56 but I'm wanting to have the CPU in this dedicated server run at 3.4GHz on all cores at all times as we're running game servers on it. They don't tend to like the frequency ramping up and down |
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| 19:52.51 | PryMar56 | [1]Bret, sir in OVH you are the game |
| 19:53.13 | [1]Bret | heh, I can install my own kernel though it seems? |
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| 19:55.07 | ix | marioxcc: I changed from bash to zsh, but can't really tell you which feature I love most. Try googling for the "why zsh is cooler than your shell" slideshow, that's what inspired me to make the change. |
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| 19:56.21 | marioxcc | ix: Ok, thanks. |
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| 20:23.47 | cnnx_ | which install cd .iso do i need for an atom cpu? amd64? |
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| 20:45.27 | SupaYoshi | My debian cant find this package https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-b43-installer |
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| 20:51.21 | marioxcc | SupaYoshi: good for you, since it's meant to install proprietary software, which would take away some of your freedom as computer user :). |
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| 20:51.35 | SupaYoshi | oh |
| 20:51.40 | SupaYoshi | well im trying to install this, |
| 20:51.44 | SupaYoshi | firmware-b43-installer |
| 20:51.47 | SupaYoshi | and it cant find it |
| 20:51.51 | SupaYoshi | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-b43-installer |
| 20:51.54 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: can you please stop harassing people who are using non-free in this channel? |
| 20:52.14 | marioxcc | dondelelcaro: I don't harrass anybody |
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| 20:52.31 | SupaYoshi | dondelelcaro, can you help me? |
| 20:52.34 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: you've now done it to at least three separate people that I've seen. |
| 20:52.36 | SynrG | SupaYoshi: you're missing contrib in your sources.list, probably |
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| 20:52.49 | SupaYoshi | Oh |
| 20:52.51 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: please stop. |
| 20:52.52 | SupaYoshi | How do I add that? |
| 20:52.55 | SynrG | SupaYoshi: at paste.debian.net, please show your sources.list |
| 20:53.31 | marioxcc | dondelelcaro: that's YOUR opinion, if you're a moderator, then ban me, period. |
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| 20:53.55 | SupaYoshi | http://paste.debian.net/131934/ |
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| 20:54.46 | dondelelcaro | SupaYoshi: hrm; that looks fine. What does apt-get update; apt-cache policy firmware-b43-installer; say? |
| 20:54.51 | SynrG | SupaYoshi: line 9 is correct, but you should also have contrib at lines 12 and 16 |
| 20:55.10 | SynrG | ,v firmware-b43-installer |
| 20:55.11 | judd | Package: firmware-b43-installer on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 4.150.10.5-4; wheezy/contrib: 1:015-14.1; sid/contrib: 1:019-1; jessie/contrib: 1:019-1 |
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| 20:55.25 | SupaYoshi | http://paste.debian.net/131935/ |
| 20:55.28 | SynrG | SupaYoshi: those issues shouldn't prevent you from finding the package, though |
| 20:55.50 | kj4 | hello. I have an issue with Jessie on a laptop with Intel HD sound, (no sound output at all, controls all working) I believe I have to blacklist snd_hda_codec_hdmi to fix this, can anyone tell me how to do that? |
| 20:56.00 | SupaYoshi | http://paste.debian.net/131936/ |
| 20:56.04 | SupaYoshi | ik |
| 20:56.26 | dontknow | marioxcc shouldn't have been quiet because of telling truth |
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| 20:57.18 | SynrG | it's not helpful. go read the debian social contract as remedial reading |
| 20:57.52 | SynrG | https://www.debian.org/social_contract point 5 |
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| 20:58.45 | SupaYoshi | aaaand now it works. |
| 20:58.46 | SupaYoshi | wtf |
| 20:58.49 | dindinx | well, the point 4 isn't respected anymore, so I guess the whole contract is moot |
| 20:59.03 | SynrG | people who don't want to support them aren't forced to support them. people who do should be free to render that support without being obstructed by those who feel differently |
| 21:00.08 | SynrG | getting all holier-than-thou on people who are stuck with hardware requiring contrib and non-free is not being constructive. |
| 21:00.40 | teraflops | oh lord so the freedom is to use what you say |
| 21:01.36 | SynrG | we didn't tell him what to use. he asked for help getting it to work. there were people here wanting to give that help. their choice |
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| 21:02.34 | teraflops | fair enough SynrG |
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| 21:04.30 | teraflops | sorry i need to say one thing more, the only think I do not like about debian is politics |
| 21:05.01 | dontknow | SupaYoshi, you can solve this issue by buying a hardware that works with free software next time ;) |
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| 21:08.50 | kj4 | ^^ any modprobe/systemd info regarding this ? |
| 21:09.15 | SupaYoshi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9031407/ help help |
| 21:09.17 | SupaYoshi | what's going on lol |
| 21:09.23 | SupaYoshi | No runnable kernel found for vortualbox? |
| 21:10.20 | centrx | SupaYoshi, It looks like it's building it after |
| 21:10.36 | SupaYoshi | ah okay cool :) |
| 21:10.37 | centrx | SupaYoshi, virtualbox uses a kernel module that has to be built for a new kernel |
| 21:10.43 | SupaYoshi | :D got yah |
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| 21:12.17 | SynrG | which happens later in that log |
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| 21:22.43 | HFSPLUS | hi |
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| 21:32.56 | amoise | Did /var/run recently move to /run? |
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| 21:33.30 | dontknow | i am testing jessie about an hour. it looks like quite stable. you can release it :p |
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| 21:33.41 | Devastator | heheh |
| 21:33.46 | Devastator | one hour? |
| 21:34.07 | dontknow | Devastator, yes. it works fine |
| 21:34.23 | centrx | thanks, you're a big help |
| 21:34.39 | dontknow | sure : |
| 21:34.44 | Devastator | ok, I bet they will release right now just because you said |
| 21:34.51 | dindinx | dontknow: great. Now try rebooting, and come back crying, telling us how systemd just broke all your system. |
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| 21:35.14 | dontknow | dindinx, i actually rebooted it multiple times. everything is fine |
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| 21:36.53 | dindinx | you had to reboot multiple times in about one hour? |
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| 21:38.02 | dontknow | dindinx, no. after installing and setting some stuff for the new thing |
| 21:38.32 | dontknow | needed to change some configuration |
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| 21:42.30 | sterns | Debian Jessie: Setting up Canon printer per: https://wiki.debian.org/PrinterDriver/Canon/UFR-II everything looks good, I see the job in the queue, then disappear, but the printer never prints |
| 21:42.47 | SupaYoshi | Hey guys |
| 21:42.50 | SupaYoshi | This wont work for me? http://www.linuxharbour.com/mounting-virtualbox-vdi-image-file/ |
| 21:42.57 | SupaYoshi | Im tyring to mount a vdi file. |
| 21:43.06 | SupaYoshi | But it works? I think? And then... doens't? |
| 21:43.08 | SupaYoshi | I cant mount it |
| 21:43.09 | SupaYoshi | :/ |
| 21:44.02 | SupaYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:12.13 | PinkFreud | hey folks. I'm having some issues tracking down the cause of a crash I'm seeing in Jessie. |
| 22:13.27 | PinkFreud | xbmc tends to drop dead on me while playing music back with any of the visualizers active. Turning off visualization appears to resolve the issue. |
| 22:13.41 | PinkFreud | (by drop dead, I mean it exits and leaves a crash dump) |
| 22:13.43 | centrx | GL graphics driver? |
| 22:14.01 | PinkFreud | centrx: that's what it looks like. so far, I've been unable to reproduce with glxgears. |
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| 22:14.47 | centrx | PinkFreud, Is this xbmc from the Debian repositories and is all software updated? |
| 22:14.49 | PinkFreud | also, the crash does not occur with video playback - only music, using the visualizer. |
| 22:15.50 | PinkFreud | centrx: all software is updated. I've tried several different versions of xbmc on here, including Marillat's and rbalint's (to verify that it wasn't libav-related). |
| 22:16.16 | PinkFreud | if it helps, the video chipset is AMD Kabini. |
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| 22:16.39 | PinkFreud | ... which is too new to have wheezy work on it, alas. :/ |
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| 22:17.57 | PinkFreud | I last updated last night, before it crashed yet again. |
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| 22:19.16 | PinkFreud | any suggestions for what I can try to track down exactly what's responsible? I'd like to file a bug report. |
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| 22:21.44 | teraflops | PinkFreud: sounds like a bug, anyway i do not know if it is xmbc related |
| 22:22.27 | teraflops | PinkFreud: at least that is what i think the xbmc guys will tell |
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| 22:22.59 | PinkFreud | teraflops: so far, that's what they've told me. the crash dump appears to implicate opengl, which likely means driver-related. |
| 22:22.59 | SynrG | possibly not gl, but xv, by the way |
| 22:23.07 | PinkFreud | SynrG: possible. |
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| 22:23.28 | PinkFreud | there's too damn many components at work here. :) That's why I'm trying to figure out waht to file a bug against. |
| 22:23.29 | SynrG | but if you have a dump implicating opengl, i can't argue with that |
| 22:23.52 | teraflops | PinkFreud: what driver? radeon of fglrx? |
| 22:23.57 | PinkFreud | radeon. |
| 22:24.01 | teraflops | oh |
| 22:24.06 | PinkFreud | I purposefully try to avoid fglrx. :) |
| 22:24.26 | SynrG | but to isolate the issue you might try fglrx |
| 22:24.45 | PinkFreud | that doesn't make me happy. :P |
| 22:24.46 | SynrG | if it fails in the radeon driver and not fglrx, it builds your case for a radeon driver bug |
| 22:24.49 | PinkFreud | hehe. |
| 22:24.50 | SynrG | it's a diagnostic |
| 22:24.53 | PinkFreud | nods |
| 22:24.55 | SynrG | not a lifestyle |
| 22:24.57 | PinkFreud | lol |
| 22:25.03 | teraflops | hah |
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| 22:26.13 | PinkFreud | come to think of it, I'm occasionally seeing another issue on here, one that looks like it was fixed some time back. |
| 22:26.38 | PinkFreud | Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 21 on CPU 0. |
| 22:26.58 | teraflops | PinkFreud: anyway do not drop using xbmc because it is awesome! |
| 22:27.19 | PinkFreud | teraflops: I'm trying not to. I have other HTPCs in the house that I run it on, and I like it. :) |
| 22:27.46 | PinkFreud | looks like the NMI issue was reported a couple years ago, and supposedly fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664855 |
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| 22:28.21 | PinkFreud | but I'm seeing it on occasion on this box, which makes me wonder if it's a regression, or if it's just the newer hw that the kernel isn't handling properly. |
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| 22:29.13 | [sr] | hi |
| 22:29.18 | [sr] | in last util-linux |
| 22:29.40 | [sr] | when i execute dmesg, now i have the timestamp, but i want to remove it |
| 22:29.43 | [sr] | how to do it? |
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| 22:30.43 | frostschutz | try dmesg -t |
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| 22:31.47 | [sr] | hum that |
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| 22:31.57 | [sr] | but i havent enabled it in kernel |
| 22:32.11 | [sr] | thats the default now right? |
| 22:32.33 | [sr] | the colours are pretty and handy |
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| 22:36.00 | [sr] | ok an alias solves it :) |
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| 22:36.31 | CarlGel | Hi, I'm looking into having my partitions automount on boot, I edited my fstab file and would like to check if this seems right? http://paste.debian.net/131957/ |
| 22:36.57 | CarlGel | the last 4 lines are the only lines that were changed |
| 22:37.17 | CarlGel | (or rather, created) |
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| 22:40.41 | teraflops | [sr]: coloured dmesg output ... \o/ |
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| 22:43.07 | Argyle | looks fine if the directories exist that should be fine, im not sure if fstab can make directories |
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| 22:44.42 | CarlGel | Argyle: They currently do exist, although I don't know if they permanantly exist? |
| 22:44.45 | Argyle | hi i'm running debian jessie i've installed libimobiledevice-dev and -utils. I can see the ipod touch (3rd gen) but clementine or banshee are not detecting it. Ipod isn't jailbroken |
| 22:44.52 | [sr] | teraflops: it's handy :) |
| 22:45.02 | CarlGel | Argyle, last time I checked there was a segfault |
| 22:45.12 | Argyle | just try it and see you will see if it errors on boot |
| 22:45.17 | CarlGel | I forget which driver |
| 22:45.21 | CarlGel | no, for the ipod touch. :p |
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| 22:46.08 | CarlGel | here's what I get when plugging in my ipod touch, although it's 4th gen I think. http://paste.debian.net/131959/ |
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| 22:47.22 | CarlGel | I don't claim to know anything, Argyle, but that's my experience with ipod touch on debian testing |
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| 22:48.18 | Argyle | im going to get it working |
| 22:48.40 | centrx | I believe in you |
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| 22:49.35 | CarlGel | heh heh, go for it. I'll watch the channel if there's anything useful :) |
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| 22:49.46 | CarlGel | (because I don't really want to use windows just to put music on it) |
| 22:50.09 | Argyle | yh im managing it through a vm atm |
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| 22:50.26 | CarlGel | hmm, interesting, you at least have more than me :( |
| 22:50.31 | Argyle | i get same error in dmesg btw |
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| 22:50.35 | CarlGel | I can't even appear to see it in vm |
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| 22:51.35 | CarlGel | Virtualbox claims nothing can be seen, but again, I'm not very experienced. |
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| 22:53.17 | cnnx | i have wlan0 that is sending and receiving packets in RX/TX from ifconfig wlan0 but the route command hands and i can't actually ping anywhere, what else to check? |
| 22:53.37 | cnnx | hands=hangs |
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| 23:17.04 | fffggg | ubuntu ops are invalids |
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| 23:17.36 | dvs | ours arent |
| 23:17.42 | teraflops | heh |
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| 23:17.56 | teraflops | weekends ... |
| 23:18.20 | centrx | invalid reference to invalids |
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| 23:31.29 | CinderBDT | I have mail sitting in /var/spool/nullmailer/queue and I would like to use a different program to process this mail and deliver it so I can read it. Where should I start to try to get this done? What program or script? |
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| 23:35.00 | dindinx | CinderBDT: formail/procmail |
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| 23:48.03 | dondelelcaro | CinderBDT: what do you want to do with the mail there? |
| 23:48.35 | dondelelcaro | CinderBDT: all nullmailer does is relay, so if you have a working smtp server, you can just have it deliver all of that mail somewhere... or you can just read all of it with less or similar. |
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