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| 00:00.02 | mengesb | I'm trying to rebuild the official debian kernel with two new patches for scst, there's a mention that I would have to enable a 'tcp zero-copy' feature in the kernel config |
| 00:00.13 | mengesb | where can I define that for the kernel package I'm building? |
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| 00:00.28 | mengesb | ubuntu has 'debian/rules editconfigs' |
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| 00:00.36 | mengesb | I don't see that for debian wheezy |
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| 00:02.20 | centrx | mengesb, looks like it might be the vanilla make menuconfig |
| 00:02.22 | centrx | mengesb, https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 00:03.33 | mengesb | isn't that going to just revert my built .config? |
| 00:04.14 | centrx | mengesb, As I recall, make menuconfig comes seeded with the values in your current .config |
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| 00:04.34 | centrx | mengesb, Also if you look under #3 under "Building only a single kernel variant", it says "change" the .config file |
| 00:05.00 | centrx | mengesb, back it up to be safe |
| 00:05.10 | mengesb | hrm... |
| 00:05.16 | centrx | mengesb, http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building |
| 00:05.25 | mengesb | yeah i have had that up |
| 00:06.24 | mengesb | so i can just do menuconfig from the ~/linux-3.2.60 directory? |
| 00:06.55 | centrx | yes |
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| 00:08.57 | mengesb | hrm... don't see the option I'm looking for |
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| 00:11.12 | tachibana | best debian repo? |
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| 00:11.32 | SynrGy | meaningless question. |
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| 00:13.34 | mengesb | I'm looking for 'TCP/IP zero-copy transfer completion notification' |
| 00:13.47 | mengesb | in the kernel config... or is that enabled by default, or someone know that kernel paramter |
| 00:13.48 | mengesb | >? |
| 00:13.53 | mengesb | parameter (sp) |
| 00:14.32 | Resilience | I'm using debian testing and having trouble with the menu, I would like to add the "debian" menu entry, but it seems to be impossible, but in enlightenment it is added, how can I do this? |
| 00:14.41 | somiaj | mengesb: debian kernels put a copy of the config file they use at /boot/config-version |
| 00:15.03 | somiaj | mengesb: if you knew the config variable you sould grep that file to see if it is there, or look at it. I dno't know if that is included or not |
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| 00:15.13 | RoyK | mengesb: what is the kernel option for that? |
| 00:15.19 | mengesb | yeah i don't know the var, that's what I'm looking for |
| 00:15.24 | fedai | hi all |
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| 00:15.32 | somiaj | Resilience: you have the debian menu package installed? What wm, desktop do you want this menu added for? |
| 00:15.35 | fedai | i have a problem with my debian |
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| 00:15.52 | RoyK | mengesb: download the kernel source and check |
| 00:16.02 | fedai | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable" |
| 00:16.03 | mengesb | yeah its not in my config for 3.2 |
| 00:16.17 | RoyK | mengesb: is it a new thing? |
| 00:16.27 | mengesb | didn't think so... referenced since 2.6 |
| 00:16.35 | RoyK | ok |
| 00:16.36 | fedai | any idea for that |
| 00:16.46 | RoyK | mengesb: perhaps it's in by default? |
| 00:16.52 | mengesb | Make sure to enable a few kernel options: in Networking Support -> Networking Options: "TCP/IP networking" and "TCP/IP zero-copy transfer completion notification" |
| 00:17.08 | mengesb | I guess... just odd that I don't see it there... |
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| 00:17.39 | Resilience | somiaj, I have got the debian-menu (Y think, becuase enlightenment has it) I do use xfce with debian testing |
| 00:18.07 | mengesb | its just plum not there... |
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| 00:18.44 | mengesb | i'd think if it were a default it'd still be there, but then again NO ONE online references the actual real config variable |
| 00:18.48 | mengesb | which i also find very odd |
| 00:18.56 | mengesb | i think i'll just build this and call it a day |
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| 00:19.49 | somiaj | Resilience: Well I would have to look up if xfce has a method for xfce, do you see on in /etc/menu-methods/? |
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| 00:20.11 | tachibana | best debian application repository? |
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| 00:20.23 | mengesb | heh; even with 8 procs... debuild -e DEBIAN_KERNEL_JOBS=$(nproc) will take a long time... |
| 00:20.24 | Resilience | somiaj, I go to see it, wait |
| 00:20.43 | mengesb | BLAH! no fuzz |
| 00:20.44 | mengesb | =( |
| 00:20.56 | slurpymcdurpy | Tachibana, your question involves too much relativity to be answered absolutely. |
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| 00:21.20 | mengesb | damnit; now i have to figure out how to fix the darn fuzz |
| 00:21.22 | mengesb | =( |
| 00:21.35 | tachibana | okay let me rehash that question |
| 00:21.49 | tachibana | best repo for networking tools |
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| 00:22.14 | Resilience | somiaj http://pastebin.com/tBVEHPj3 |
| 00:22.24 | somiaj | Resilience: I just wonder if xfce uses fdg .desktop files to generate it's menu and by default doesn't have a method for the debian menu system. Does the menu just look different with things in different places, or is it mising some applications that may not have a .desktop file |
| 00:22.45 | tachibana | best repo for vpn tunnel stuffs? |
| 00:23.29 | somiaj | Resilience: My experience is a simple wm so I haven't done much with xdg, but I do know it has it's own method to generate menus from .desktop files, so that is my guess is why you see a different menu in xfce than elightment |
| 00:23.30 | tachibana | sim card configurations |
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| 00:23.47 | slurpymcdurpy | Dunno. Considering that most Debian repo's are mirrors of eachother, the only real heuristic for "best" that I can think of would be nearest to you, most in your country. (Or if you were in China, perhaps Taiwan) |
| 00:23.49 | Resilience | somiaj, aaaah I understand your enlgish, but I don't understand your concepts sorry, I think I was used to the debiena-menu system, and now the new xfree weird system amazes me, and I don't know even where to start to see |
| 00:24.17 | tachibana | radio interface layer magic |
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| 00:24.39 | tachibana | evolution of the long term |
| 00:25.09 | somiaj | Resilience: https://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu -- maybe that will help |
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| 00:25.34 | Resilience | somiaj, everything from freedesktop seems weird and not human readable, nor xml f*ed files nor its documentation |
| 00:26.06 | somiaj | Resilience: I agree, that is why I use the debian menu system with fvwm. I have just had to use it a few times here and there. |
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| 00:27.36 | somiaj | Resilience: I found a bug from a while ago, it says that in xfce under 'main menu' config there is a option you can select to show the debian menu. Care to look there? |
| 00:27.51 | Resilience | somiaj, I'm thinking about reverting back to fvwm again... becuase with the gtk and whateverkit shit I cannot even start to make things |
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| 00:29.01 | Resilience | somiaj, looked before there, and the problem is that you cannot add the debian menu (in gnoem yes, in xfce not) |
| 00:30.41 | jzk1 | Anyone experience trouble with their Chromium "back-button"/history functionality where pages seem to be reloading several times and clobbering the back-button history |
| 00:31.28 | somiaj | Resilience: well .desktop files are numan readable if all you wanted to do was add some custom enteries |
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| 00:32.09 | Resilience | soiyes, but I do want to add a lot ofo entries from a menu that exists (the debian menu) |
| 00:33.28 | somiaj | Resilience: you could try this, make sure you have the package 'menu' and 'menu-xdg' installed the run update-menus, that should greate the xdg menu from the debian menu that xfce should then see. |
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| 00:39.29 | Resilience | somiaj, I have them, but they dont work, the problem is with the maintainer, he does not want to add anything which is not from fredesktop :( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=558308 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741008 |
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| 00:41.40 | Anuska | Hi, anyone know how to fix this: http://pastebin.com/ybZnb5Q5 |
| 00:41.57 | Resilience | somiaj, do you know where can I read anything about debian menu (for fvwm and others) and about freedesktop menus? |
| 00:42.22 | centrx | Anuska, #1 Don't use Ubuntu PPAs in Debian |
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| 00:42.36 | Anuska | i need to delete from list? |
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| 00:43.29 | centrx | Anuska, The error means those URLs could not be retrieved because they do not exist |
| 00:43.47 | Anuska | where i find this |
| 00:43.48 | centrx | Anuska, They do not exist because there is no distribution name "wheezy" in the Ubuntu PPA repository, because it is not Debian |
| 00:43.50 | Anuska | becouse in /etc/apt/sources.list are not |
| 00:44.03 | somiaj | Resilience: most info you will find out there will be about the freedesktop menu and .desktop files. |
| 00:44.25 | centrx | Anuska, You should remove the lines, yes |
| 00:44.31 | Resilience | somiaj, I remeber not so long ago that I read about debian menu system... but I cannot rememeber where |
| 00:45.13 | somiaj | Resilience: I don't have any resources though. the debian menu is fairly self documented if you start looking at /etc/menu-methods/README that explains how you make a menu-method, and /etc/menu/README describes the debian .menu files, but if you are gonna learn something I sugget learning xdg .desktop files |
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| 00:46.01 | Anuska | centrx, this is my source : http://pastebin.com/wqXvaK0c |
| 00:46.41 | Resilience | somiaj, I think I am allergic to freedesktop, I'm into xfce running away from gnome and systemd, and I will be running away from xfce fron tis dbusism, that does not let me shutdown my computer for something about polikit |
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| 00:47.17 | somiaj | Resilience: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ if you care about specs |
| 00:47.26 | Resilience | somiaj, in he debian documentation there is nothing about the menu system? |
| 00:48.14 | linuxthefish | hi, how can i make a cronjob that runs every day at 00:00 ? |
| 00:48.25 | somiaj | Resilience: what do you mean? What info are you looking for, those README files point you at /usr/share/doc/menu/html/ |
| 00:48.27 | linuxthefish | someone told me * 0 * * * and that's every bloody min... |
| 00:48.38 | Resilience | somiaj, I have that link too, I have take a look at tit and I don't understand, I emeber that when I read the debina menu system was it easier and faster.. and not xml-ized |
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| 00:48.51 | centrx | linuxthefish, I always use this for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron#Overview |
| 00:49.09 | rudi_s | linuxthefish: man 5 crontab |
| 00:49.20 | centrx | linuxthefish, the one that starts with # * * * * * command to execute |
| 00:49.26 | centrx | linuxthefish, that is the format |
| 00:49.28 | somiaj | Resilience: there are also gui menu editors for the xdg menu system you can install and use. |
| 00:50.20 | linuxthefish | thanks centrx |
| 00:50.29 | Resilience | somiaj, ah, I don't know.. I thought it should be provided with the optons options... |
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| 01:06.59 | dmi3on | what should i read first about securing debian ? i am using i3wm with minimal install. And just noticed i don't pay much attention about how secure setups are heh |
| 01:07.38 | dmi3on | i browsing net, in search for good reads, so asking here too :) |
| 01:07.52 | centrx | dmi3on, There is this, the complete manual on the subject: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 01:08.04 | TyrfingMjolnir | I rsynced a system to a newly formatted disk |
| 01:08.13 | centrx | dmi3on, but for a regular desktop system, the main important thing is making sure you keep up with security updates |
| 01:08.16 | centrx | !security |
| 01:08.16 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
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| 01:08.23 | TyrfingMjolnir | Which config files will I need to edit to make it bootable? |
| 01:08.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | I have already update fstab to reflect the blkid of the new volume |
| 01:08.47 | centrx | dmi3on, and stick with Debian packages, since they get prompt security updates |
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| 01:09.36 | dmi3on | centrx: thanks ! I still cant get use to packages, I am leaning more to building everything myself and i dont need much :) |
| 01:09.54 | dmi3on | not everything but as much as i can't |
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| 01:10.14 | centrx | dmi3on, You can build Debian packages from source pretty easily with apt-get source |
| 01:10.28 | dmi3on | btw, any one using chrome on debian ? i still have problems with some websites but mostly work |
| 01:11.38 | LV-426 | centrx, looks like installing a LSM (apparmor, etc.) isn't mentioned there... |
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| 01:12.27 | dmi3on | centrx: I am slowly getting ready to sit down one day and build as minimal system as possible where i know 99% of packages etc |
| 01:12.35 | dmi3on | i am not sure if its possible even :) |
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| 01:12.58 | centrx | dmi3on, yes it works |
| 01:13.09 | centrx | dmi3on, deborphan is a useful tool for getting rid of unneeded packages |
| 01:13.21 | centrx | dmi3on, *potentially unneeded packages |
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| 01:14.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | No bootable medium found system halted.... |
| 01:14.22 | LV-426 | dmi3on, nice intro into apparmor if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKG_WS9uMI |
| 01:14.24 | TyrfingMjolnir | need to run grub perhaps... |
| 01:14.29 | dmi3on | centrx: not minimal or expert install actually package by package starting with kernel |
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| 01:15.06 | dmi3on | LV-426: watching it now, thanks ! |
| 01:15.51 | LV-426 | is still hoping for the lost apparmor debconf video... |
| 01:17.39 | dmi3on | before building from scratch i want to have all packages that i am actually using day to day |
| 01:18.13 | dmi3on | have all config's etc, then trying to figure out how to build debian |
| 01:18.56 | centrx | cool |
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| 01:26.03 | mengesb | ugh... trying to create kernel patch files... and it complains fuzz not allowed |
| 01:26.07 | mengesb | wondering how I can debug the 'fuzz' |
| 01:27.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | error: no such device: <<UUID>> |
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| 01:28.24 | centrx | TyrfingMjolnir, grub and /etc/fstab seems right |
| 01:28.35 | centrx | TyrfingMjolnir, hard drive identified by UUID may have changed |
| 01:28.58 | TyrfingMjolnir | Fcuk! Will I need counter clockwise wine now? |
| 01:29.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | Of course it has changed |
| 01:29.22 | TyrfingMjolnir | I cloned the image |
| 01:29.27 | TyrfingMjolnir | So if I just run in this VM it should work fine? |
| 01:29.53 | TyrfingMjolnir | Hmmm |
| 01:31.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | When from grub I choose /dev/sda1, it boots and it should work fine, but still it booted from /dev/sdb1 |
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| 01:36.45 | rwp | Lewoco, Using the shell "until" and just keep trying with a sleep until it works? |
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| 01:56.28 | baash | Hello.. |
| 01:56.54 | baash | I'm attempting to install crunchbang on my local system but the USB drive isn't being found. |
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| 01:57.28 | baash | I used the dd method described on the site, and I've found no joy. |
| 01:57.57 | TyrfingMjolnir | What is crunchbag? |
| 01:57.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | dd? |
| 01:58.04 | TyrfingMjolnir | Do you need bootflag? |
| 01:58.11 | baash | Now I'm here because I can install kali and DSL and mint and elementary from the |
| 01:58.16 | baash | bootflag? |
| 01:58.42 | TyrfingMjolnir | dd is often used to move a preinstalled system onto a disk |
| 01:58.44 | baash | ... from the same usb. |
| 01:58.47 | TyrfingMjolnir | or bootpartition |
| 01:59.03 | sleenk | baash: what is the link/site to the method for dd and crunchbang? |
| 01:59.23 | themill | baash: none of these things are debian... #debian is for debian. |
| 01:59.53 | sleenk | there is a crunchbang channel, according to /list |
| 02:00.13 | baash | Um.. kali and dsl are debian. |
| 02:00.36 | baash | But I'm here because debian had the same problem |
| 02:00.44 | baash | didn't show up.. |
| 02:01.06 | baash | now crunchbang is out of breath debian |
| 02:01.11 | sleenk | baash: so to clarify, you put an installation/setup for debian/crunchbang/kali/whatever onto a USB stick, and you are unable to boot off the USB stick to install the distro? |
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| 02:02.22 | baash | No no.. I can install kali and a heap of other distros |
| 02:02.32 | baash | just not crunch or debian. |
| 02:02.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | wrong debian for your arch probably? |
| 02:02.58 | sleenk | baash: so, you put a debian installer onto a USB stick, and you are unable to boot the installer? |
| 02:03.07 | baash | right. |
| 02:03.10 | sleenk | and you did so with 'dd' |
| 02:03.13 | baash | the bios didn't see. |
| 02:03.19 | themill | baash: so precisely which debian installer image copied to a usb stick in what way? |
| 02:03.19 | baash | Yep dd if.... |
| 02:03.33 | sleenk | they have software to put the installer onto the USB stick and make it all good, instead of using the dd method |
| 02:03.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | but did you set the bootflag? |
| 02:04.08 | themill | TyrfingMjolnir: you don't need to do anything other than cp foo.iso /dev/sdX |
| 02:04.21 | baash | two questions 1. what software |
| 02:04.27 | sleenk | themill: i wasn't even aware you could 'cp' that way |
| 02:04.28 | baash | 2. bootflag? |
| 02:04.37 | sleenk | baash: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:04.41 | baash | See now this is awesome. |
| 02:04.48 | themill | no, please don't use unetbootin |
| 02:04.49 | TyrfingMjolnir | cp works on anything available to your mounted root |
| 02:04.50 | themill | !unetbootin |
| 02:04.50 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 02:05.07 | sleenk | baash: if your system is using BIOS (not uefi), you should be able to use fdisk /dev/usbdev, and set a partition bootable |
| 02:05.12 | sleenk | brb |
| 02:05.39 | baash | it's a BISO.. |
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| 02:06.58 | sleenk | baash: you are copying the distro from linux to the USB stick, correct? |
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| 02:07.29 | sleenk | baash: from linux, as root, find your device file for the USB stick, e.g. /dev/sdb, then type (at your own risk of course): fdisk /dev/sdb |
| 02:07.35 | baash | Yeah. |
| 02:07.36 | sleenk | baash: then type: p <enter> |
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| 02:07.54 | sleenk | you should see something like: /dev/sdb1 1 3648 29295616 83 Linux |
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| 02:08.17 | themill | baash: you still haven't told us precisely which debian installer image you're using and precisely how you copied the image to the usb stick. |
| 02:08.22 | sleenk | if there is no * anywhere listed, the partition is not flagged as bootable (this is assuming that you copied everything correctly, and it copied a partition header, i don't know really anything about usb booting to be honest) |
| 02:08.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | Where do I set BOOT_IMAGE=? |
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| 02:08.46 | sleenk | baash: to toggle a partition, you can use: a <enter> from fdisk |
| 02:08.49 | baash | Sorry themill I just grabbed a random one.. I doubt I could tel lyou. |
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| 02:09.05 | sleenk | baash: i really recommend you try using unetbootin if you can, or something similiar. it will do it all for you |
| 02:09.10 | themill | baash: umm... and a random image was supposed to work? |
| 02:09.17 | themill | sleenk: really no... not unetbootin. |
| 02:09.19 | centrx | !cruncbhbang |
| 02:09.23 | sleenk | themill: what would you suggest? |
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| 02:09.42 | themill | sleenk: cp works just fine. unetbootin repeatedly breaks the installer. |
| 02:09.43 | baash | I mean I don't remember what version of debian I grabbed.. It was late and I was just trying to debug. |
| 02:10.12 | themill | baash: there are hundreds of different debian iso images. The chances of you picking the wrong image are good. |
| 02:10.14 | baash | I grabbed the base of crunchbang. |
| 02:10.17 | TyrfingMjolnir | baash: cp debnetinstall.iso /dev/sdX |
| 02:10.38 | sleenk | themill: thanks, i didn't know that |
| 02:10.39 | themill | baash: I know nothing about crunchbang install images. #debian can help you with the debian installer. |
| 02:12.10 | baash | To be perfectly honest I'm looking for a really slim version of linux.. I don't much care about which distro it is. |
| 02:12.20 | TyrfingMjolnir | baash: https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 02:12.23 | sleenk | baash: you could use the debian net installer, and choose what to install |
| 02:12.28 | sleenk | 'netinst' |
| 02:12.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | baash: it's called netinstall |
| 02:12.38 | centrx | baash, Debian can be installed pretty lean |
| 02:12.49 | TyrfingMjolnir | base install |
| 02:12.52 | baash | Yep.. that's why I came here :) |
| 02:13.05 | sleenk | baash: 32bit or 64bit? |
| 02:13.08 | TyrfingMjolnir | apt-get vim curl build-essential |
| 02:13.15 | baash | 64 |
| 02:13.23 | TyrfingMjolnir | And you should be ready to do a job |
| 02:13.41 | baash | I'm a dev and I don't need much more than a browser and vim |
| 02:13.50 | sleenk | 'amd64' works for intel 64bit too right? |
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| 02:14.11 | baash | Yeah.. that's the one I went with sleenk. |
| 02:14.17 | baash | Now that you remind me |
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| 02:14.32 | sleenk | baash: i'm going to try to play with an installer for a moment |
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| 02:14.50 | sleenk | although i am going to be using the 32bit installer since i have 32bit hardware heh |
| 02:15.39 | themill | baash: that still doesn't actually tell us which image you're working with or how you're copying it. I suggest that you start afresh and then you will know what you're actually doing and we have some hope of solving problems if they arise |
| 02:15.44 | centrx | sleenk, Intel ultimately adopted AMDs design |
| 02:16.16 | centrx | sleenk, or instruction set rather I suppose |
| 02:16.26 | baash | themill I went with the amd64 netinstaller and I used dd to put it on the stick |
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| 02:16.58 | baash | I got the iso off the debian website. |
| 02:17.10 | sleenk | baash: i'm writing down what i am doing. if it works i'll send you the txt file |
| 02:17.25 | baash | sweet. |
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| 02:18.30 | themill | baash: I don't think you realise how imprecise that is. Exact filenames and exact commands are precise. |
| 02:18.42 | themill | It's completely undebuggable with that level of detail. |
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| 02:20.19 | baash | cool I clicked on http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 02:20.43 | baash | that downloaded the iso to my local downloads directory on my elementary linux box |
| 02:20.44 | sleenk | that is correct |
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| 02:20.51 | baash | I cd'd to that |
| 02:20.52 | sleenk | (well the one i would have suggested) |
| 02:21.39 | sleenk | baash: have you thought about what windows manager you want to use? |
| 02:22.21 | baash | Then I ran dd if=debian-7.6.0-amd63-netinst.iso of=/dev/??? bs= (I tried a few) |
| 02:22.27 | sleenk | baash: no |
| 02:22.28 | baash | I like open box. |
| 02:22.37 | sleenk | baash: themill recommended using: cp debian-7.6.0-amd63-netinst.iso /dev/??? |
| 02:22.45 | themill | so the ??? is actually important too |
| 02:23.04 | sleenk | baash: yes, do you know your actual pathname for the USB stick? |
| 02:23.05 | baash | Yeah.. totally. but I don't have the box with me. It went to the correct USB. |
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| 02:23.21 | baash | I would know the name if I had it.. |
| 02:23.22 | sleenk | baash: fdisk -l |
| 02:23.29 | sleenk | Disk /dev/sdb: 972 MB, 972292096 bytes |
| 02:23.34 | sleenk | for example, that's mine, (1GB stick) |
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| 02:23.41 | sleenk | not literally 1GB though... |
| 02:23.42 | baash | sdb was mine too |
| 02:23.55 | sleenk | baash: type: fdisk |grep /dev/sdb |
| 02:24.00 | sleenk | and tell me what the MB/GB says |
| 02:24.07 | sleenk | (we want to make damn sure you got it right :)) |
| 02:24.23 | baash | I did it with other distros and got it working. |
| 02:24.27 | sleenk | ok, good |
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| 02:24.36 | baash | I just don't have that box with me now. |
| 02:24.49 | sleenk | wait.. so you are doing this remotely, or are going to do it later? |
| 02:25.02 | TyrfingMjolnir | Where does /proc/cmdline get its value? |
| 02:25.04 | baash | No.. I'm doing it later. |
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| 02:25.30 | baash | I'm at work and figured there'd be more help online. |
| 02:25.41 | baash | during the day :) |
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| 02:26.33 | sleenk | TyrfingMjolnir: the boot loader, i believe |
| 02:26.42 | TyrfingMjolnir | Which file? |
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| 02:26.58 | sleenk | TyrfingMjolnir: if you're using grub for instance, check /boot/grub for a file with those parameters. but be careful, you can screw your system if you don't know what you're doing |
| 02:26.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.04 | sleenk | yes |
| 02:27.35 | themill | Do note carefully what it says on line 2 of that file |
| 02:28.00 | sleenk | themill: i suggest you make a backup of it before touching it |
| 02:28.04 | sleenk | woops wrong nick, sorry |
| 02:28.30 | TyrfingMjolnir | Working on a clone |
| 02:28.41 | baash | sleenk what wm would you suggest? |
| 02:28.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | e17 |
| 02:29.09 | TyrfingMjolnir | but XFCE is easier to install |
| 02:29.14 | sleenk | baash: openbox i think is light weight. xfce is light weight too, but i don't much like some parts of it |
| 02:29.29 | centrx | openbox is very lightweight + fbpanel |
| 02:29.41 | sleenk | i would stick with what you know |
| 02:30.12 | baash | I am coming to it fresh.. Off mint and elementary |
| 02:30.29 | baash | Tired of the flashy and extras |
| 02:30.42 | baash | it's a new box, so I figured what better time to pick a new os. |
| 02:31.52 | baash | I found on mint I spent most of my time on the CTRL-ALT-F1 screen. |
| 02:32.25 | sleenk | what does that do? |
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| 02:33.04 | baash | basically brings you out of the gui. |
| 02:33.41 | baash | ctrl+alt+f8 does the revers |
| 02:34.06 | baash | someone else here might know what it's actually called. |
| 02:34.17 | sleenk | themill: are you sure that cp .iso to /dev/sdb works? does it need a partition already created to do so? |
| 02:34.32 | sleenk | baash: oh, i am so stupid. i know what that does, i was thinking it was a special mint thing at first lol |
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| 02:35.01 | sleenk | it drops you to the console (no gui) |
| 02:35.38 | sleenk | baash: i gotta go for a bit, i'll update you with my findings though |
| 02:35.48 | themill | sleenk: these are just bits that need copying and the act of copying the installer onto the raw device destroys any partition table that was there to begin with |
| 02:35.59 | sleenk | themill: /dev/sdb1 * 64 567295 283616 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS |
| 02:36.13 | sleenk | and i did: root@debian:/fs/archive/iso# cp debian-7.6.0-i386-netinst.iso /dev/sdb |
| 02:36.30 | themill | what you are copying is cd image that has a faked up partition table in it to make it a bootable usb image |
| 02:36.42 | mengesb | ok I'm needing some help... I've been referencing wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt while trying to apply two scst patches to the linux source |
| 02:36.50 | themill | so after copying, you've destroyed the old partition table and created a new one with the appropriate information |
| 02:36.53 | mengesb | I used apt-get source to install the kernel source |
| 02:37.17 | sleenk | themill: yes i realize that, but as you see, the partition table looks wrong |
| 02:37.22 | sleenk | but i shall try booting it when i get back |
| 02:37.23 | mengesb | perform 'quilt new debian/patches/features/all/put_page_callback-3.2.patch' |
| 02:37.34 | mengesb | use 'quilt add <file>' to add all the files it patches |
| 02:37.56 | sleenk | afk |
| 02:37.58 | mengesb | go down to '.pc/features/all/put_page_callback-3.2.patch' |
| 02:38.15 | TyrfingMjolnir | themill: line 2? |
| 02:38.18 | mengesb | apply the patch via 'patch -p1 < ~/patchfile' |
| 02:38.22 | TyrfingMjolnir | It tells me not to edit that file |
| 02:38.48 | themill | TyrfingMjolnir: correct |
| 02:39.15 | TyrfingMjolnir | What is the right way of making a new clean grub discarding all the options already in the grub config based on the available stuff in /boot? |
| 02:39.35 | mengesb | but when I get to building the packages, I get errors |
| 02:39.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.57 | mengesb | dpkg-source: info: fuzz is not allowed when applying patches |
| 02:40.04 | mengesb | so I'm totally confused |
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| 02:41.25 | justanotheruser | how do I install iwlwifi-6000g2a-5.ucode |
| 02:41.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | Is /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg the way to go? |
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| 02:45.04 | dvs | justanotheruser: aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 02:46.07 | TyrfingMjolnir | At least this made the thing boot |
| 02:48.03 | justanotheruser | dvs: I don't seem to have that package in my list |
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| 02:48.27 | dvs | !tell justanotheruser about non-free |
| 02:48.34 | justanotheruser | ohh |
| 02:48.36 | justanotheruser | it is nonfree |
| 02:48.49 | zosky` | google chrome flash crashing on debian anybody experiencing this issues ? |
| 02:49.35 | centrx | You mean chromium? |
| 02:49.42 | justanotheruser | thanks |
| 02:49.48 | dvs | np |
| 02:50.06 | mengesb | I'm trying to get some help with quilt and patching a kernel for scst: http://pastebin.com/umFWjgJ0 |
| 02:50.13 | mengesb | anyone have a clue what I'm doing wrong here? |
| 02:50.36 | sterns | zosky: I see that fairly regularly, I have not done any troubleshooting |
| 02:51.16 | justanotheruser | I'm having some issues with grub as well. It seems to have installed to USB (because I can only run grub from usb), but the grub files are in .Trash-1000/files/ |
| 02:51.34 | justanotheruser | Is that directory written to the mbr or something? |
| 02:51.44 | sterns | the old non-free player used to work pretty well, but chromium axed support for that a couple few months ago in favor of their pepper flash |
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| 02:52.45 | centrx | Flash is not cool |
| 02:53.05 | zosky` | sterns, i have looked up and tried various solutions but still same error |
| 02:53.33 | zosky` | only youtube works which i use rarely other than that.. |
| 02:53.37 | zosky` | nothing works |
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| 02:54.35 | zosky` | either google is up to their mischiefs again in making believe that all other sites should stop hosting video other than youtube.. |
| 02:54.39 | zosky` | i don't get it |
| 02:54.51 | themill | zosky`: chrome or chromium? wheezy? |
| 02:55.12 | zosky` | seems to the chrome |
| 02:55.24 | sterns | chromium and wheezy is what I've been having difficulty with |
| 02:56.02 | sterns | frequently see a message at the top of the screen that the flash player has stopped working and the browser freezes for a while |
| 02:56.18 | zosky` | themill, just to be sure how do i check if it's actually chromium or chrome / |
| 02:56.20 | sterns | can't scroll or anything for a number of minutes |
| 02:56.21 | zosky` | ? |
| 02:56.31 | mengesb | i don't run flash anymore... i believe i run pepperflashplugin |
| 02:56.54 | mengesb | or at least not adobe flash |
| 02:56.58 | zosky` | i actually downloaded mine from google site and installed it |
| 02:57.06 | sterns | AFAIK, the current version of Chromium only works with pepperflash |
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| 02:57.30 | sterns | And Chrome comes with pepperflash |
| 02:57.35 | mengesb | I'm trying to get some help with quilt and patching a kernel for scst: http://pastebin.com/umFWjgJ0 - anyone have some input as to the correct way to perform a quilt patch? |
| 02:58.57 | zosky` | all this shockwave flash whatever whatever has crashed pop ups are pissing me off including the flash reload ? pop ups |
| 02:59.19 | centrx | sterns, zosky` There is a Debian package for pepperflash which handles getting pepperflash within the package management system |
| 02:59.22 | centrx | in backports |
| 03:00.15 | zosky` | centrx, how do we install this safely ? |
| 03:00.42 | centrx | !wheezy-backports |
| 03:00.42 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the "Jessie" (8.0) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (7.x) can be found in the "wheezy-backports" repository. Note that wheezy-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 03:01.08 | centrx | !backports |
| 03:01.08 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 03:02.06 | sterns | centrx, that's for the tip, I'll look into that. |
| 03:02.33 | sterns | *thanks |
| 03:04.12 | zosky` | centrx, apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree would do the trick i suppose ? |
| 03:04.31 | centrx | zosky`, yes |
| 03:04.40 | themill | zosky`: pepperflashplugin is just chrome anyway and it is known to be broken in wheezy at the moment |
| 03:04.48 | centrx | oh, that's too bad |
| 03:04.52 | themill | !pepperflash fix |
| 03:04.53 | dpkg | well, pepperflash fix is 1. Locate a cached chrome release in /var/cache/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/ (v35 works for me) 2. ar x <google-chrome-deb> 3. tar --lzma --extract --file data.tar.lzma 4. cp opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so (as root). Keep in mind that this installs an obsolete flash release which might have security implications. |
| 03:06.11 | sterns | themill, that fix is preferable to the backport? |
| 03:06.12 | zosky` | quite disappointing of google that this should happen |
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| 03:06.36 | themill | sterns: that fix is using the backported packages |
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| 03:06.53 | zosky` | despite all the software engineers working around 24/7 this happens |
| 03:07.16 | themill | You're assuming that google tests chrome on wheezy at all |
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| 03:07.49 | zosky` | themill they should.. google employees don't work on windows |
| 03:08.00 | themill | they don't necessarily work on wheezy either |
| 03:08.01 | zosky` | linux or mac OS |
| 03:08.14 | zosky` | themill, their servers do though |
| 03:08.25 | themill | they probably don't run chrome on their servers ... |
| 03:08.31 | zosky` | lol |
| 03:09.03 | themill | for reference https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=410805 |
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| 03:10.26 | zosky` | anyways centrx , themill thanks for the help i best be in bed right now |
| 03:11.00 | zosky` | i'll check on the pepperflashplugin tomorrow |
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| 03:13.27 | zosky` | off topic question does suse uses apt-get or yum ? |
| 03:13.44 | centrx | it used to use rpm so I assume it still uses that so yum |
| 03:14.06 | yates | zosky`: yum |
| 03:15.47 | zosky` | and so you debian guys would be fateful and suggest debian for a server right ? |
| 03:16.00 | zosky` | i also love debian |
| 03:16.06 | centrx | zosky`, Debian is the best for servers |
| 03:16.13 | zosky` | great |
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| 03:24.54 | sleenk | baash: i have to go for the night, i couldn't get it to work (i don't think my bios on my test computer supports USB booting |
| 03:25.27 | baash | Ah.. |
| 03:25.36 | baash | Oh well.. |
| 03:25.38 | sleenk | baash: i take that back, it worked |
| 03:25.40 | baash | it's noon here. |
| 03:25.49 | sleenk | i did: cp file.iso /dev/sdb |
| 03:25.50 | baash | I shall keep poking at it.. |
| 03:25.50 | sleenk | sync |
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| 03:26.04 | baash | thanks for the help.. It might be enough to lead me to the answers |
| 03:26.07 | sleenk | and put it in the computer, booted off USB, and it booted right up |
| 03:26.13 | sleenk | i wish you luck |
| 03:26.19 | sleenk | i gotta go now though |
| 03:26.21 | sleenk | afk |
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| 04:10.28 | narbeh | How can I save ALL the tty (console) output to a file ? |
| 04:13.42 | centrx | narbeh, maybe some kind of redirecting of the output of the /dev/ttyX file/device |
| 04:13.47 | Riastradh | narbeh: script |
| 04:14.14 | narbeh | centrx: Riastradh: thank you all. but where can I find it? |
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| 04:14.52 | Riastradh | Run `script foo', interact with the shell it starts, exit the shell, and all the tty output of your interaction will be saved in the file foo. |
| 04:15.33 | centrx | cool |
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| 04:35.54 | symptom_ | anyone familiar with portknocking? the daemon wont recognize anything. i thought this thing would work around iptables?? |
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| 06:05.43 | siregghead | I have 4x identical Dell R900s with Broadcom NetXtreme2 ethernet cards. The ethernet cards have 4 ports on them. 2 of the servers I installed Debian 6 on a few months ago, and last week I installed Debian 7 on the other 2. 3 of the 4 servers I am not seeing some of my NICs on, via lspci. I even went so far as to order a replacement card from the vendor and I had the same results. Each server shows a different amount of NICs. Server 1 |
| 06:05.43 | siregghead | (deb6) shows all 4 NICs. Server 2 (deb6) shows 2 NICs. Server 3 (deb7) shows 1 NIC. Server 4 (deb7) shows 2 NICs. I installed the bnx2 firmware. |
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| 06:07.35 | jelly-home | siregghead: do lspci -nn outputs look the same on all the machines? |
| 06:08.21 | siregghead | No. They are each different. They are each listed as in my OP. |
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| 06:09.21 | N3X15 | I'm getting some really, really weird behavior with CMake and ccache, namely that the latter is searching for " g++-4.8" (space is intentional). Log: http://pastebin.com/mWC9rTtV Any ideas as to what I screwed up? |
| 06:09.29 | jelly-home | siregghead: if PCI enumeration is different, that suggests the issue is elsewhere instead of the OS, perhaps BIOS settings |
| 06:09.32 | siregghead | jelly-home, to clarify, they are showing the same hardware names, just different amounts. |
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| 06:10.24 | siregghead | jelly-home, I'll see if the DRAC or BIOS gives me any insight here shortly. At the moment i have a 30 minute transfer rolling across them. |
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| 06:12.01 | chicken | im running flash 15.0.0.152 with chrome on debian linux, and it keeps crashing, how do i fix it |
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| 06:19.26 | chicken | im running flash 15.0.0.152 with chrome on debian linux, and it keeps crashing, how do i fix it |
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| 06:21.12 | chicken | im running flash 15.0.0.152 with chrome on debian linux, and it keeps crashing, how do i fix it |
| 06:21.17 | chicken | plzz help |
| 06:21.20 | siregghead | chicken, Chrome plays flash media without additional installation. Disable any additional flash players in chrome://plugins/ |
| 06:21.29 | chicken | i tried that there are none |
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| 06:21.31 | chicken | only 1 flash |
| 06:21.39 | siregghead | chicken, and it's bad form to keep spamming a question. Please post your question once and wait patiently for help. |
| 06:21.40 | chicken | i tried using ice weseal |
| 06:21.47 | chicken | but it just gave me |
| 06:21.49 | chicken | a green screen |
| 06:21.55 | chicken | on all flash video players |
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| 06:22.02 | chicken | same thing with opera |
| 06:24.07 | siregghead | jelly-home, I found what we were missing. Thank you. :) |
| 06:24.11 | siregghead | jelly-home, have a great evening! |
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| 06:26.01 | jelly-home | chicken: ppapi flash plugin for chrome is known to be broken, upstream bug report is at https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=410805 Wait until Chrome people fix it. |
| 06:26.19 | chicken | ok |
| 06:26.36 | chicken | here is an ape shooting african rebels with an ak47 |
| 06:26.36 | chicken | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU |
| 06:27.16 | jelly-home | chicken: here's a warning about not pasting old movie ads here |
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| 06:30.18 | N3X15 | Found it, old cmake bug on their backlog. |
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| 06:31.06 | N3X15 | Just in case anyone happens upon this via Google or something: CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_ARG1 gets spaces in it for some reason. Remove space = get working compiler. |
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| 06:34.21 | TJ- | N3X15: spaces in the value assigned, or in the variable name itself? |
| 06:34.40 | N3X15 | In the value assigned |
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| 06:35.18 | N3X15 | Sounds like something easily caught by a unit test, but *shrug* |
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| 06:39.01 | N3X15 | Yep, works like a charm after manually setting CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_ARG1 to "g++-4.8". |
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| 06:45.21 | cydd | hi |
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| 06:58.06 | N3X15 | TJ-, I should have mentioned this is an old bug in cmake: http://public.kitware.com/Bug/bug_relationship_graph.php?bug_id=12274&graph=relation |
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| 07:07.41 | karlpinc | Any better options than swatch for watching logs and feeding an iptables mod recent blacklist? |
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| 07:34.44 | BlueEagle | karlpinc: Not sure what you're trying to do, but fail2ban? |
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| 07:35.57 | rozie | hello. on mirror list I see ftp.pl.debian.org |
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| 07:36.05 | rozie | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 07:36.30 | rozie | it resolves to 153.19.251.221 and 2001:4070:1::fafb |
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| 07:37.00 | karlpinc | I think fail2ban is a ssh-only solution, yes? |
| 07:37.16 | rozie | whois data for 153.19.251.221 looks weird |
| 07:37.17 | BlueEagle | karlpinc: No, it does a whole host of stuff. |
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| 07:38.44 | BlueEagle | karlpinc: You can set it to block pop3 access attempts, smtp flooding to non-existant mail addresses and so on. |
| 07:38.54 | jelly-home | karlpinc: it's a framework, configure patterns from log files and configure actions to take |
| 07:39.19 | karlpinc | BlueEagle: Does it have a state engine in it? I'm looking for log message regexp B coming within N seconds of log message regexp A, where the regexp for B depends on the content of A. |
| 07:39.56 | BlueEagle | karlpinc: You would have to check the documentation to find that out. |
| 07:40.18 | karlpinc | Ok. Thanks for the tip. Sounds like a possibility. |
| 07:40.33 | jelly-home | I don't _think_ it can deal with multiline matches |
| 07:41.18 | karlpinc | logsurfer looks like it might have such a capabilty, but is not in debian and I've not looked really closely. |
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| 07:42.12 | karlpinc | I suppose I could always break down and actually program something. But it'd be nice not to have to re-invent the wheel. |
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| 07:44.38 | BlueEagle | jelly-home: It can deal with multi-line matches as of 0.9 branch, but I am not sure if it can match one line and then start looking for another line within the next n entries, which is what I think karlpinc is asking. |
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| 07:48.30 | zoku | It seems like my normal user cannot access any usb devices |
| 07:48.36 | zoku | They work fine from the root account though |
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| 07:50.47 | karlpinc | BlueEagle: I want it to look for another line within the next N seconds, and consider that a match if found. Then trigger an action if there's more than X matches in Y seconds. I've sorta faked it with swatch, but it was ugly and imperfect. |
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| 07:52.04 | karlpinc | !tell zoku about desktop groups |
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| 07:54.14 | hooligan132 | still looking for a good/sane solution to launch ui/desktop apps automatically with out them crashing into each other.. this is causing major ass hurt :(.... debians session and automatic startup dialog is no help.. not only does alsa2jack bridge not start in time when your trying to auto startup jackd, considering its the first thing that is started, and because theres not restraint system |
| 07:54.14 | hooligan132 | controling the way apps launch.. they are just blasted into existance all at and once the only governing factor is cpu power.. and if you dont use retarded & extraneously long sleep timeouts jack actually crashes when clients turn up a bit too earlier :( |
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| 07:55.47 | karlpinc | hooligan132: Gotta wonder if you couldn't direct insserv to a different set of configurations and somehow mirror system startup. |
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| 07:57.18 | karlpinc | The fail2ban ini file config syntax seems like it would make me cranky if configurations got at all complex. ini does not do nesting in a pretty fashion. |
| 07:58.26 | BlueEagle | karlpinc: Yeah, what you are trying to do is kinda unusual I think. |
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| 07:59.41 | zoku | karlpinc: /dev/bus/usb/???/??? are all set to 600 |
| 07:59.54 | zoku | karlpinc: so even if i'm in plugdev, it won't read the devices |
| 07:59.59 | zoku | if I manually set the permissions it works though |
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| 08:00.25 | karlpinc | zoku: That's the wrong way. The right way is to add your user to the correct group. (Then logout and back in to have it take effect.) |
| 08:00.26 | BlueEagle | zoku: After adding your user to plugdev, did the user log out and back in? It's a common culprit. :) |
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| 08:01.25 | hooligan132 | yeah karlpinc that is the thing |
| 08:01.33 | zoku | yes, I tried that, but the group does not have permissions on the file either |
| 08:01.35 | karlpinc | BlueEagle: Yes and no. I'm looking at the big picture, and that necessarly means multiple log events. |
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| 08:03.06 | hooligan132 | I dont believe there is a way inside a bash script to wait untill the programs state changes from loading into ram too when its actually in a proper executing state |
| 08:03.54 | hooligan132 | not a builtin any way |
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| 08:04.30 | karlpinc | zoku: Drive like devices show up as /dev/sd* |
| 08:04.52 | BlueEagle | hooligan132: I think there was a util called xstart or somesuch back in the days, which aimed at resolving such issues. |
| 08:04.58 | hooligan132 | the only way would be to script a pritty ugly method to monitor its the pids flags via ps or something till they are "normal" then launch the next app |
| 08:05.19 | hooligan132 | ok tnx i'll check into that |
| 08:05.25 | zoku | karlpinc: I'm using a JTAG interface :] |
| 08:05.29 | karlpinc | hooligan132: I've not looked in a while, but isn't the system startup scripts all bash? |
| 08:05.51 | hooligan132 | thats what I presume |
| 08:06.14 | karlpinc | zoku: That'd be /dev/USB0 or something. I think. Maybe not. Does jtag look like a serial device? |
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| 08:06.41 | karlpinc | hooligan132: Well then it can be done in bash. :) |
| 08:07.02 | zoku | karlpinc: I have no /dev/usb* |
| 08:07.05 | zoku | or USB* |
| 08:07.27 | zoku | when I set the permissions on /dev/bus/usb/???/??? it works as my normal user |
| 08:07.36 | zoku | chmod 666 /dev/bus/usb/*/* |
| 08:07.39 | karlpinc | zoku: It's been a while since I played with it. They are symlinks created by udev when the device arrives on the bus. |
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| 08:08.42 | karlpinc | zoku: Might want to chase the links in this factoid. |
| 08:08.49 | karlpinc | !tell zoku about groups |
| 08:08.59 | mrtnt | Am I correct that Debian for x86 architecture runs on Intel Atom CPU's just as well as on so-called regular Intel/AMD x86 CPU's? |
| 08:09.25 | hooligan132 | yeah should work under x86 generic |
| 08:09.47 | zoku | all of them are gid 0, root group |
| 08:09.52 | jelly-home | mrtnt: if you mean i386 debian architecture, then yes. |
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| 08:11.07 | jelly-home | mrtnt: if it fails to work or install properly, it's typically not the fault of the CPU itself, but BIOS limitations or GPU issues |
| 08:11.24 | karlpinc | zoku: The factoid has the links to offical policy vis access to various devices. The folks on #emdebian might have more jtag experience and know off the top of their heads. |
| 08:11.58 | hooligan132 | hey karlpinc, you know what your right .. i just remembered something... you know the way slackware and redhate did the starting up such and such .. [OK] [FAILED] |
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| 08:17.26 | hooligan132 | HMMM this is an idea still :) |
| 08:17.37 | zoku | huh, my /dev/snd permissions were messed up too |
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| 08:20.05 | hooligan132 | Can a regular user use sys-v service command? if he had his own readable little init.d/ with scripts to start apps??? |
| 08:22.49 | mrtnt | hooligan132, jelly-home: thanks! |
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| 08:26.19 | jelly-home | hooligan132: no, not really |
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| 08:26.56 | hooligan132 | ok |
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| 09:20.31 | sheepman | is it possible to boot debian without networking? If i boot single user mode it still brings the network up immediately |
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| 09:21.27 | t3ngu | sheepman: disable it before reboot? |
| 09:21.55 | sheepman | doesnt help me in my case |
| 09:22.10 | sheepman | although i maybe able to do something else if its not just a single option somewhere |
| 09:22.16 | sheepman | was hoping it would be lol |
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| 09:31.04 | t3ngu | sheepman: have you tried init S ? |
| 09:31.11 | sheepman | no? |
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| 09:31.31 | t3ngu | not sure if its 'debian' way or if it works exactly in linux but in Unix this is the way |
| 09:31.58 | sheepman | t3ngu: i want to disable during boot so the nic never comes up |
| 09:32.12 | sheepman | your suggestion means i have to be booted right? |
| 09:32.31 | t3ngu | sheepman: lemmy check for that. yes , init S is from inside the Os |
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| 09:32.50 | sheepman | i need to disable during boot |
| 09:32.51 | sheepman | somehow |
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| 09:41.23 | jelly | ,v whois |
| 09:41.25 | judd | Package: whois on i386 -- squeeze: 5.0.10; wheezy: 5.1.1~deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 5.1.5~bpo70+1; jessie: 5.1.5; sid: 5.2.0 |
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| 09:44.14 | t3ngu | sheepman: have you tried in boot parameter disable=IPV4 ? |
| 09:44.30 | sheepman | t3ngu: no i haven't actually i'll give it a shot ty |
| 09:44.41 | t3ngu | i know there is an ipv6 option |
| 09:44.46 | t3ngu | i have never tried the ipv4 |
| 09:45.10 | jelly | sheepman: comment out lines starting with "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 09:45.51 | jelly | t3ngu: I've never seen that disable=IPV4 thing, did you make it up? |
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| 09:46.01 | t3ngu | nope |
| 09:46.08 | sheepman | jelly: doesnt help, its a clone of a system i want to boot with network. don't worry too much i think i've figured out a way round it for me anyway |
| 09:46.14 | t3ngu | Linux Kernel Boot Parameters is what I read. |
| 09:46.20 | t3ngu | for kernel 3.14 |
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| 09:46.49 | themill | I've seen «ipv6.disable=1» but not that. |
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| 09:47.17 | jelly | t3ngu: I don't see anything similar in https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
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| 09:47.56 | t3ngu | jelly: disable=[IPV6] See Documentation/networking/ipv6.txt. |
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| 09:49.26 | jelly | t3ngu: right, that one is written as ipv6.disable= ... |
| 09:49.49 | t3ngu | ok my bad, but hte option is there |
| 09:50.00 | jelly | right, just not for ipv4 |
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| 09:50.04 | themill | 4≠6 |
| 09:50.23 | t3ngu | duh |
| 09:50.39 | t3ngu | themill: i type, that *it might be for ipv4* |
| 09:51.14 | dupin | can I ask here something jessie related? |
| 09:51.54 | ebfull | see end of title |
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| 09:52.21 | dupin | I tried but it said I have to be invited |
| 09:52.31 | ebfull | you need to register i think |
| 09:52.51 | dupin | ok never mind tnx |
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| 09:53.59 | delaytime0 | dupin: registered for Freenode or where? |
| 09:54.09 | delaytime0 | sry... meant ebfull |
| 09:54.23 | ebfull | delaytime0: on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:54.24 | themill | #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:54.52 | delaytime0 | I see... reading the whole Header helps :/ |
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| 10:12.24 | mwolny | Hello, is there any way to disable update-alternatives? The case is simple: huge cluster with sun-java6, I would like to install there oracle-java7 but avoid update-alternatives to switch to this in whole system. |
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| 10:23.21 | baash05__ | Hello again |
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| 10:24.39 | baash05__ | Hey.. earlier today I asked if anyone had any issues installing Weezy from a USB. |
| 10:24.59 | baash05__ | I got a lot of hits, but in the end I didn't manage to get a solution. |
| 10:25.37 | baash05__ | Here's the history. I downloaded the amd64 netinstaller (from the site) |
| 10:26.01 | baash05__ | I bb'ed the iso to a known stick and rebooted. |
| 10:26.11 | baash05__ | The bios didn't pick up the stick as bootable. |
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| 10:27.03 | baash05__ | I have done this with the same stick on the same box but with Kali and DSL, mint and elementary. They all worked without issue. |
| 10:27.26 | baash05__ | crunchbang was not successful. |
| 10:27.32 | towo` | and you have created the stick how? |
| 10:27.41 | baash05__ | bb'ed it. |
| 10:27.44 | baash05__ | oops |
| 10:28.09 | towo` | bb'ed? |
| 10:28.11 | baash05__ | dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/. |
| 10:28.16 | baash05__ | ... |
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| 10:28.25 | jelly | baash05__: /dev/whatprecisely? |
| 10:28.42 | baash05__ | Umm what ever my usb was at the time. |
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| 10:28.51 | baash05__ | sdb I believe |
| 10:29.07 | towo` | currupted iso maybe |
| 10:29.08 | jelly | baash05__: it wouldn't have mistakenly been sdb1 ? |
| 10:29.32 | baash05__ | No.. Again I did virtually the same thing with other distros.. |
| 10:29.37 | baash05__ | Nothing went wrong |
| 10:29.41 | baash05__ | they all worked. |
| 10:29.43 | themill | baash05__: there's little point in going through this again unless you're actually sitting in front of this machine and doing steps so you can remember what you're doing and can do some real debugging |
| 10:30.06 | baash05__ | I am sitting here. |
| 10:30.28 | baash05__ | but there are others here.. many eyes shallow bugs |
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| 10:31.10 | baash05__ | I'm on the box now.. running elementary. |
| 10:31.25 | baash05__ | which I installed after trying debian. |
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| 10:31.44 | themill | bugs are only shallow if the details are actually available |
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| 10:32.12 | helpcrypto | hi |
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| 10:32.53 | helpcrypto | on my Debian 7.5 Wheezy there are no libssl0.9.8 deb on the repos, googling it says: download and install from squeeze deb |
| 10:33.24 | helpcrypto | i do sudo dpkg -i libssl0.9.8_i386 AND dpkg -i libssl0.9.8_amd64 on my system |
| 10:33.41 | helpcrypto | i expected dpkg -l list both with :i386 and :amd64, but only showing one |
| 10:33.54 | colo-work | why would you want to install openssl 0.9.8 there? |
| 10:34.05 | colo-work | do you like breaking things? |
| 10:34.06 | helpcrypto | app dependency |
| 10:34.44 | helpcrypto | is there any way to install both i386 and am64 using "multiarch"? |
| 10:34.45 | baash05__ | Themill I've got the system and all the steps.. any suggestions? |
| 10:35.02 | helpcrypto | (dpkg -l showing both) |
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| 10:35.41 | themill | helpcrypto: that old package won't be multiarch enabled |
| 10:35.42 | An_Ony_Moose | I have nodm installed and it's working mostly fine, except that it doesn't seem to exit when rebooting. Can I change this behaviour? |
| 10:35.55 | helpcrypto | themill: its not |
| 10:36.04 | themill | baash05__: well you'd need to actually tell us what the steps where... |
| 10:36.06 | themill | were |
| 10:37.28 | helpcrypto | anyway to install both libssl0.98 i386 and amd64 on the same 64b computer? |
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| 10:39.09 | Thumpxr | Hey. Running Debian 7 stable. I can't get cron working with @reboot to run command under a user different than root. Any advice? |
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| 10:40.16 | moldy | hi |
| 10:40.36 | moldy | jessy/kde: usb sticks are auto-mounted as root, so my user cannot write to them. what am i doing wrong? |
| 10:40.58 | jelly | Thumpxr: wfm, what does your crontab -l look like? |
| 10:41.04 | jelly | !tell Thumpxr about paste |
| 10:41.05 | zetheroo | Is it possible to have a running Debian system (say Wheezy) and "change" it to Ubuntu without formatting and installing Ubuntu fresh!? |
| 10:41.14 | jelly | zetheroo: no |
| 10:41.34 | moldy | zetheroo: it's not impossible, but it's unsupported |
| 10:41.47 | jelly | zetheroo: ubuntu can be installed with debootstrap, but that's just a different way to install it |
| 10:41.48 | baash05__ | 1. Download debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso confirm checksum |
| 10:41.50 | baash05__ | 2. cd to the directory |
| 10:41.52 | baash05__ | 3. insert usb |
| 10:41.55 | baash05__ | 4. confirm usb name |
| 10:41.56 | baash05__ | 5. dd if=debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync |
| 10:42.00 | baash05__ | 6. reboot and enter bios |
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| 10:42.10 | baash05__ | notice that the USB is not listed. |
| 10:42.12 | moldy | zetheroo: the easiest thing is to backup your data and re-install. |
| 10:42.22 | baash05__ | reboot and join irc |
| 10:42.35 | zetheroo | hmm, my co-worker here is of the mind that it would work :P |
| 10:42.42 | zetheroo | and I am VERY skeptical |
| 10:42.46 | jelly | baash05__: that unusual. does the same thing happen if you 5. cp debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc; sync ? |
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| 10:43.01 | helpcrypto | any way to install both libssl0.98 i386 and amd64 using "dpkg -i" on the same 64b computer? (probably the packages are overwriting files 'cause they arent prepared for multiarch) |
| 10:43.33 | An_Ony_Moose | zetheroo: It's probably possible to get it to work, but it would probably be a major pain in the a-neck, and generally seems like a rather bad idea :) |
| 10:43.53 | jelly | helpcrypto: not really, no |
| 10:43.56 | baash05__ | I have not tried that yet. |
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| 10:44.10 | helpcrypto | jelly: thx ;) |
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| 10:44.31 | jelly | helpcrypto: you'll have to tear the packages apart, put the libs in their multiarch place instead of /usr/lib, and package them back |
| 10:44.33 | themill | helpcrypto: no. At best you can unpack one of them manually but you are now responsible for managing updates of this package. |
| 10:44.34 | Thumpxr | jelly: @reboot su xyz; cd /home/xyz/; ./script |
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| 10:45.14 | jelly | Thumpxr: that's a) incorrect syntax for su, b) su won't work for a normal user |
| 10:46.10 | jelly | Thumpxr: which user is this crontab entry from? |
| 10:46.13 | helpcrypto | jelly: themill i thought that, but i dont feel like changing a bunch of packages for a faulty manufacturer. already asked them to do it...thanks for ur help! |
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| 10:46.26 | Thumpxr | jelly: did it from root.. |
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| 10:46.31 | zetheroo | jelly: the notion is that the packages which Ubuntu and Debian use are identically named - so just changing the sources and reinstalling all packages would "work" |
| 10:46.41 | jelly | zetheroo: no, no it wouldn't |
| 10:46.51 | jelly | the notion, it is wrong |
| 10:46.58 | Thumpxr | Okay. |
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| 10:47.37 | zetheroo | could I ask why? :) |
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| 10:48.16 | jelly | zetheroo: because these two distros have different package names |
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| 10:48.51 | moldy | solution to my usb mount problem: make sure you don't have the usbmount package installed |
| 10:48.58 | jelly | zetheroo: and a zillion other reasons |
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| 10:49.47 | baash05__ | Jelly: how would you prepare the drive? |
| 10:49.59 | jelly | Thumpxr: why not just put @reboot /home/xyz/script in user xyz' crontab |
| 10:50.06 | zetheroo | ok thanks guys |
| 10:50.18 | jelly | baash05__: I'd cp the image. |
| 10:50.37 | baash05__ | nothing to prepare the stick? |
| 10:50.41 | jelly | no |
| 10:50.47 | baash05__ | Humm.. |
| 10:51.07 | Thumpxr | jelly: ah, there are user crontabs. Will read the documentation about it. |
| 10:51.27 | hypermist | there is a whole bunch of packages i need to compile this certain thing on debian but they arent there ;\ |
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| 10:52.14 | hypermist | they are libssl, libdb4.8, libboost |
| 10:52.51 | jelly | Thumpxr: as user xyz, run "crontab -e" and put stuff there |
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| 10:53.05 | Thumpxr | jelly: thank you |
| 10:53.17 | jelly | hypermist: install them? |
| 10:53.27 | hypermist | i try but they arent avabile jelly |
| 10:53.28 | jelly | well, except BDB 4.8, that's gone |
| 10:53.58 | baash05__ | Jelly, cld you copy that instruction again? |
| 10:54.02 | hypermist | E: Unable to locate package libboost |
| 10:54.20 | jelly | hypermist: you need development packages for each of those. Search for them using something like "apt-cache search libboost dev" |
| 10:54.26 | baash05__ | I lost my history when i rebooted,and I wasn't clever enough to save the chat |
| 10:54.44 | jelly | baash05__: that unusual. does the same thing happen if you 5. cp debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc; sync ? |
| 10:55.13 | hypermist | oh okay jelly |
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| 10:56.05 | jelly | hypermist: if you feel really lucky, try installing libssl-dev, libboost-dev, and libdb-dev |
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| 10:56.14 | hypermist | :) |
| 10:56.26 | hypermist | bonus libdb-dev worked |
| 10:56.27 | hypermist | C: |
| 10:57.14 | baash05__ | sorry jelly.. should it be the only thing on there? |
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| 10:57.38 | jelly | baash05__: on where? |
| 10:57.44 | pclover | How do you install a single package from sid? |
| 10:57.47 | baash05__ | on the USB |
| 10:57.54 | jelly | baash05__: yes. |
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| 10:58.20 | jelly | baash05__: I don't understand that question. What else would you have on the stick? |
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| 10:58.36 | jelly | pclover: which one? |
| 10:58.44 | pclover | https://packages.debian.org/sid/rtl-sdr |
| 10:58.44 | hypermist | erm /bin/sh: 1: ./build_detect_platform: Permission denied ? |
| 10:58.45 | baash05__ | I had the previous dd contents. |
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| 10:59.45 | jelly | pclover: do not do that. Instead, look whether there's a backport first. Read /msg dpkg wheezy-backports |
| 10:59.51 | jelly | ,v rtl-sdr |
| 10:59.52 | judd | Package: rtl-sdr on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.5.3-3~bpo70+1; sid: 0.5.3-3; jessie: 0.5.3-3 |
| 10:59.57 | pclover | even better |
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| 11:00.28 | jelly | hypermist: your script is broken? |
| 11:00.32 | hypermist | the file im trying to compile jelly was on my debian vps but it works on my home vps |
| 11:00.33 | pclover | thanks jelly |
| 11:00.44 | hypermist | well home *pc* |
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| 11:02.29 | An_Ony_Moose | is there a guide anywhere that explains what the various components of a desktop session are? I'd like to have a better understanding of what's actually happening when I log in. |
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| 11:02.54 | hypermist | so i don't understand why it wouldn't work on my vps jelly |
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| 11:03.45 | jelly | hypermist: sorry, I'm a bit busy atm |
| 11:04.08 | hypermist | no problem jelly im just confused on how it would work on the pc that i have debian on right next to me but not my hosted vps lol |
| 11:04.41 | An_Ony_Moose | hypermist: erm /bin/sh: 1: ./build_detect_platform: Permission denied ? |
| 11:04.57 | An_Ony_Moose | hypermist: try enabling execution on build_detect_platform. |
| 11:05.06 | An_Ony_Moose | where did you get the script? |
| 11:05.12 | hypermist | just going to quickly try something else, and i made it xD |
| 11:05.21 | hypermist | the script is to do with altcoins |
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| 11:22.58 | fujio | Hi, Ive got a local debian repository which is about 9 months old. Is it okay to install packages from that repository on freshly up-to-date debian systems? Or is it mandatory to update the repository to prevent breakages. |
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| 11:24.44 | bogus- | I'm curious |
| 11:24.49 | bogus- | why don't you update the local repo? |
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| 11:27.39 | jelly | fujio: except for the security issues fixed in the meantime, it ought to work |
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| 11:28.14 | fujio | jelly: Good to know, thanks |
| 11:28.46 | jelly | fujio: assuming you're talking about debian 7, current release. testing and unstable might break quite a bit |
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| 11:29.20 | fujio | bogus-: Because I remember that when I downloaded the repository it took a lot time and I worry that I probably have to re-download the whole repository, since I assume since 9 months nearly all packages got repackaged |
| 11:29.32 | fujio | Ye, talking about wheezy |
| 11:30.34 | bogus- | still wondering |
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| 11:30.49 | bogus- | you have a very big network with debian machines or a slow internet connection |
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| 11:31.06 | bogus- | because otherwise, why would you keep a local repo if you're not planning to keep it maintained? |
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| 11:33.15 | valdyn | even then he would probably use a caching procy |
| 11:33.19 | valdyn | even then he would probably use a caching proxy |
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| 11:33.46 | DryEagle | hi guys, can anyone help me with fstab briefly? |
| 11:34.03 | DryEagle | this is the system setup, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/083a105bccaf42b44044 |
| 11:34.11 | DryEagle | does this look ok for fstab for it? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3d47d3fbac9314aa8926 |
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| 11:36.09 | valdyn | DryEagle: is there an actual problem ? |
| 11:36.18 | DryEagle | not yet |
| 11:36.23 | DryEagle | i only just wrote it, haven't saved it |
| 11:36.32 | DryEagle | rather check for problems in advance than find it won't boot or something |
| 11:36.53 | DryEagle | basically i'm just asking if i'm missing anything obvious |
| 11:36.56 | DryEagle | since i'm quite new to all this |
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| 11:42.02 | fujio | bogus-: I have only four machines, that make use of the local debian repository. I have no internet access at all from all of these four machines, thus I can't use chaching proxies I worry |
| 11:43.54 | narbeh | Anyone can help me with this problem in TTY1 on my console? http://i1.someimage.com/JKazdLO.jpg |
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| 11:47.23 | t3ngu | for Debian Wheezy, in order to install Citrix client libc >= 2.18 is required. Is there a 'debian' way to install this libc w/o breaking the whole universe (as I have done already) ? For example, I lost locales as they depend on 2.13-1. Thanx in advance |
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| 11:48.04 | Brigo | DryEagle, i think it should work. |
| 11:50.00 | Brigo | narbeh, what are you doing and what are you trying to archieve? |
| 11:51.03 | Brigo | t3ngu, is it a graphic program? |
| 11:51.14 | t3ngu | Brigo: affirmative sir |
| 11:51.33 | Brigo | t3ngu, you could use containers |
| 11:51.45 | t3ngu | i do. but that is not the point :) |
| 11:51.54 | narbeh | Brigo: Nothing. we've just configured IBSng ( Web analyzer ) and some other packages. it's just this server. the other 100 servers are okay |
| 11:52.27 | Brigo | t3ngu, libc6 is THE basic library, all the system depends on it, if you want to change it you have to change the entire system. |
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| 11:53.00 | Brigo | narbeh, do you have this output in logs too? |
| 11:53.14 | t3ngu | ok. yes. i have forced it in. but I cannot upgrade the rest of the system. thats why it breaks locales for example |
| 11:53.33 | narbeh | Brigo: no |
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| 11:54.51 | Brigo | narbeh, i guess it is a dns issue |
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| 11:55.04 | narbeh | Brigo: the bind service is disabled |
| 11:55.12 | Brigo | narbeh, or dhcp asking by dnss. |
| 11:55.23 | baash05__ | Hey Jelly. |
| 11:55.27 | baash05__ | No joy. |
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| 11:55.45 | baash05__ | I formatted and fiddled, and copied. |
| 11:55.49 | Brigo | narbeh, are you sure the bind is not running anyway? |
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| 11:56.42 | narbeh | Brigo: it's disabled. for sure. |
| 11:57.09 | baash05__ | could it be that the partition table is broken on the install? |
| 11:57.29 | Brigo | narbeh, i am not asking if it si enable, sometimes you disable a service but the daemon does not dead. |
| 11:57.54 | narbeh | Brigo: I disable it with this command. service bind stop |
| 11:58.14 | narbeh | Brigo: if there are other ways, i don't know |
| 11:59.47 | Brigo | narbeh, check for it with ps ax|grep named |
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| 12:01.11 | narbeh | Brigo: after stopping the server I got this error: [....] Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused |
| 12:01.14 | narbeh | is that ok? |
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| 12:01.53 | Brigo | narbeh, of course no7 |
| 12:01.57 | Brigo | not* |
| 12:02.28 | ChrisH | narbeh: most times this this an error with rndc-keys... check rndc status |
| 12:02.53 | petn-randall | narbeh: Looks like you're firewalling on your loopback address, or the server died and nothing is bound to that port. |
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| 12:06.23 | narbeh | ChrisH: how can I turn of the rndc? |
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| 12:11.18 | ChrisH | narbeh: its easier to fix the problem with the keys and kill named using kill command |
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| 12:12.25 | narbeh | ChrisH: root 22542 0.0 0.0 7828 880 pts/1 R+ 16:41 0:00 grep named |
| 12:12.38 | narbeh | this is the ps aux | grep named output |
| 12:12.45 | ChrisH | narbeh: then start it again |
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| 12:12.45 | narbeh | should I kill it? |
| 12:12.55 | t3ngu | not running narbeh |
| 12:13.36 | t3ngu | narbeh: in your named.conf you have a line that loads a 'key' |
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| 12:14.14 | t3ngu | include "/etc/bind/transfer.key"; for exampel |
| 12:15.42 | t3ngu | if you comment this line out named will not a key, so you dont have to do transfers with key. I do not recommend it either. just fyi i mentioned it. |
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| 12:16.32 | narbeh | t3ngu: yes, got it |
| 12:16.43 | t3ngu | coolio |
| 12:18.14 | Iridos | t3ngu, what you get installing "only" libc6 from sid/testing is what we call frankendebian ^^.... it may live in an uncanny way for a while but nobody from us wants to go near it |
| 12:18.17 | Bluewolf | Debian 7.6.0 XFCE and LXDE are for low end systems which is the least hard on older computers? |
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| 12:19.04 | hooligan132 | yay new rnd puter comming later tonight i can reasearch further this whole application auto start thing |
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| 12:19.25 | Iridos | t3ngu, so there's no "debian way" to do this except by installing testing... which you may not want to do for other reasons... the only thing I can think of is to have it in a chroot :-/ |
| 12:19.37 | t3ngu | Iridos: ok i respect that, but as business i need citrix, and i cannot go to jessie yet. so frankedebian taht is. an a stupid container to manage some compilations |
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| 12:20.18 | Iridos | judd, versions libc6 |
| 12:20.19 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-security-lts: 2.11.3-4+deb6u1; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.13-38+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u4; jessie: 2.19-11; sid: 2.19-11 |
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| 12:20.44 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: Yes, they're both suitable for low end systems. |
| 12:21.14 | t3ngu | i have forced the 2.18 in : libc6:armhf 2.18-5 |
| 12:21.21 | t3ngu | well most of the stuff works fine |
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| 12:22.01 | hooligan132 | i am going to try and use a sys-v init.d style script as there method of launching the background service waits for the pid file to be generated by the launch of the background daemon which is what we want the only difference is that we are launching a gui application in the background |
| 12:23.44 | hooligan132 | atleast that wait bash is waiting for the pid of the first application to exist before proceeding to launch the next one that might be all it needs |
| 12:23.47 | hooligan132 | ;/ |
| 12:24.16 | hooligan132 | atleast that way&^&& |
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| 12:24.41 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: Okay thanks, just wanted to make sure. |
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| 12:27.33 | jelly | t3ngu: you could keep the wheezy installation clean and set up a jessie chroot for stuff that needs newer glibc |
| 12:28.05 | t3ngu | jelly would i be able to start an X app from chroot? |
| 12:28.28 | Brigo | t3ngu, yes, but it is no easy. |
| 12:28.42 | t3ngu | :) |
| 12:28.55 | jelly | t3ngu: that requires sharing /tmp, but yes |
| 12:29.12 | Brigo | t3ngu, that is why i asked you if it is a graphic program :) |
| 12:29.35 | t3ngu | eh citrix receiver is only graphical |
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| 12:29.55 | Iridos | right... I wondered about that |
| 12:30.24 | Iridos | citrix server shouldn't use a gui |
| 12:30.46 | Iridos | and iirc the gui is running as a java browser plugin |
| 12:30.48 | t3ngu | Receiver :) not server. Server is in the office. i only wanna connect to the office :) |
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| 12:31.07 | jelly | client, then |
| 12:31.30 | Iridos | hm, but isn't that either java or a windows binary? |
| 12:31.32 | jelly | t3ngu: what's the hardware platform? |
| 12:31.56 | t3ngu | root@lynx:~# ldd /opt/Citrix/ICAClient/wfica |grep libc │······························································· |
| 12:31.57 | t3ngu | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.58 | t3ngu | armh |
| 12:32.06 | Iridos | i.e. ... if there was a native linux citrix client, I'd have tried to install it in my debian about 1-2years ago? |
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| 12:32.16 | jelly | t3ngu: I mean, which hardware are you running this on? |
| 12:32.30 | t3ngu | armh :) odroid u3 |
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| 12:32.41 | t3ngu | exynos |
| 12:33.03 | Iridos | oh, that's why "receiver" it's some weird new thingy they developed for tablets and mobiles |
| 12:33.24 | t3ngu | indeed. thats why i forced the libc |
| 12:33.34 | jelly | t3ngu: and that citrix client is available for download for free? |
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| 12:33.45 | jelly | Iridos: are you thinking what I'm thinking |
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| 12:34.27 | t3ngu | jelly indeed. Receiver for Linux(ARMHF Package) @ http://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-130.html |
| 12:34.27 | Iridos | jelly, dunno what you're thinking... but I checked... and yes, while arm is the main platform, yay, there's a "linux receiver for 64-bit systems", which seems to mean x86-64 |
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| 12:35.08 | jelly | Iridos: I guess "receiver" is a better description of what you need to be to make it run |
| 12:35.12 | Iridos | jelly, I'm thinking that it is quite ironical that citrix does finally offer a linux client via the mobile sector |
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| 12:36.36 | Iridos | jelly, do you mean we're on the receiving end of this joke? |
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| 12:37.10 | jelly | I was thinking binfmt and qemu until you found the x86_64 client binaries |
| 12:37.33 | Iridos | jelly, the joke continues... it's a .deb and it says it needs nspluginwrapper |
| 12:37.58 | jelly | seems legit |
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| 12:38.42 | Iridos | hmm |
| 12:38.45 | Iridos | that means |
| 12:38.51 | Iridos | should get the 32-bit one, I guess |
| 12:39.22 | Iridos | I wonder... nspluginwrapper kind of sounds like it's the same ole java plugin |
| 12:39.25 | Iridos | app |
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| 12:40.58 | jelly | Iridos: the contents are exactly the same, it seems. file icaclient-amd64/opt/Citrix/ICAClient/wfica -> ELF 32-bit LSB executable |
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| 12:43.59 | Iridos | jelly, usable? |
| 12:44.21 | jelly | fiik |
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| 12:44.47 | Iridos | big daddy? |
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| 12:47.36 | t3ngu | if you dont install the nlsplugin the browser just saves the .ica file. theoretically you could open it with the wfica bin directly. in a secure environment does not work, as the citrix server passes an encrypted string to the ica and if not opened by the plugin there is a mismatch |
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| 12:59.29 | Iridos | t3ngu, I remember why I love accessing citrix so much |
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| 13:00.07 | t3ngu | Iridos: love's got nothing to do with it unfortunately. If it was love i will still be running solrais 7 |
| 13:00.11 | t3ngu | solaris* |
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| 13:23.22 | hi_ler | Hi, i am trying to build debian for Beagle Bone Black using this link"https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder". But i am the following error after it running it:"W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/fossfreedom/g2ipmsg/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/fossfreedom/g2ipmsg/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index |
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| 13:26.21 | hi_ler | i dont need g2ipmsg. So can anyone tell me how to disable this? |
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| 13:29.10 | jelly | hi_ler: that sounds like a third-party repo enabled. Find it in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and comment it out |
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| 13:38.21 | urn | is there any way to auth users of an apt server i'm running? |
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| 13:40.37 | urn | nvm I think I'll just force them to ssh proxy to the internal network and only listen on the internal iface |
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| 13:49.22 | zz1 | I am trying to install debian, but I am stuck at installing grub |
| 13:49.56 | zz1 | I can't find on which disk it should go: anyone willing to guide me a bit? |
| 13:50.19 | jelly | urn: should be trivial to add http basic auth to a http server with a repo |
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| 14:19.02 | anddam | hello |
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| 14:20.20 | anddam | I've got a debian machine under a natted ISP, I need to setup ssh access to the host, I've got a couple servers on internet as well. What's the most simple and straightforward way to setup the connection? |
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| 14:20.46 | anddam | I'm thinking a reverse ssh tunnel on a host that's on Internet, using autossh as spawner |
| 14:21.00 | anddam | is there anything better or more debian-ish? |
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| 14:22.32 | Posterdati | hi |
| 14:23.02 | Posterdati | how can I prevent pulseaudio to not interrupt amarok playback during events |
| 14:23.04 | Posterdati | ? |
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| 14:28.37 | anddam | also when setting up a reverse tunnel as service should I create a dedicated user or is there a builtin system user I could|should use? |
| 14:28.53 | anddam | both servers are Wheezy |
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| 14:30.20 | hi_ler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:31.18 | doebi | dist-upgrade to testing is broken |
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| 14:32.27 | doebi | it wants me to auto-remove almost any package, gnome is completly fucked up, i dont have cursor anymore and gnome-term forgets my settings |
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| 14:35.12 | jhutchins | Is stable-updates still a thing? |
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| 14:48.29 | anddam | if I want to route port 6000 on server A to 22 on server B the user on server B has to be superuser, is that correct? |
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| 14:48.36 | anddam | s/route/tunnel |
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| 14:50.33 | t3ngu | anddam: if i understand correct (you want an ssh tunnel?) then no need for superusers |
| 14:50.44 | t3ngu | if the listening port is highter than 1024 that is |
| 14:51.03 | Iridos | anddam, yes... only root can listen/use ports with a number under 1000 (although linux capabilities might make this not completely true anymore, but I haven't used them at all, yet) |
| 14:51.38 | Iridos | CAP_NET_ADMIN [...] bind to any address for transparent proxying; |
| 14:52.37 | Iridos | sounds like it |
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| 14:54.05 | jhutchins | !ssh tunneling |
| 14:54.05 | dpkg | it has been said that ssh tunneling is http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/facilities/faqs/SSHTunnelingUnix.html , or http://www.google.com/search?q='ssh+tunneling' , or http://www.debian-administration.org/article/38/Tunneling_connections_securely_with_SSH |
| 14:54.40 | Iridos | and I'd also say that using a port >1024 would be the preferred way |
| 14:55.20 | anddam | t3ngu: even for -R 6000:localhost:22 ? |
| 14:55.41 | anddam | ok, I can live with a user-level TCP port |
| 14:55.51 | anddam | what about the user to run the server? |
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| 14:56.04 | t3ngu | anddam: why the emphasis on the 6000 ? |
| 14:56.08 | anddam | random |
| 14:56.21 | anddam | the emphasis was on 22 |
| 14:56.41 | anddam | a simple shell script seems quicker than setup a debian init.d service |
| 14:56.53 | jhutchins | anddam: No special permissions to forward to 22, just like no special permissions to connct to it. |
| 14:56.56 | t3ngu | anddam: the 22 is the listening of the remote server |
| 14:57.06 | anddam | jhutchins: right, I didn't think it through |
| 14:57.12 | jhutchins | anddam: Please read the debian admin article above. |
| 14:57.21 | anddam | oh totally missed it |
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| 14:57.35 | anddam | as it wasn't highlighted, thanks for pointing it out |
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| 14:59.55 | jhutchins | anddam: It's good to have a reference if other questions come up. For me, forwarding is something I've done so rarely I don't really have my head around it. |
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| 15:03.26 | Iridos | jhutchins, what he means is something like... $ ssh -L 110:localhost:1100 user@host -----> Privileged ports can only be forwarded by root. |
| 15:04.04 | anddam | Iridos: makes sense since the process has to bind the local port |
| 15:04.15 | Iridos | indeed |
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| 15:04.40 | Iridos | and I guess in principle ssh could do it, as it's already got a process running as root to be able to bind to port 22... |
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| 15:18.03 | t3ngu | enjoy the rest of your days folks |
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| 15:19.36 | anddam | jhutchins: read the article, wasn't anything new |
| 15:19.58 | anddam | but good to have a reference |
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| 15:21.24 | jhutchins | anddam: Sorry it dissapointed. Some articles do tend to miss the whole " |
| 15:21.31 | jhutchins | how do I actually do it" bit. |
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| 15:22.21 | anddam | I've already user ssh tunneling on occasions, what I'm asking about is more about integrating it in the debian system |
| 15:22.35 | jhutchins | anddam: ... and great, the other one is 404. |
| 15:22.56 | jhutchins | anddam: No different than any other Linux system when it comes to that. |
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| 15:23.18 | anddam | so if create an init.d rather than a crontab task, if one of the Debian's default users is suited for running the script |
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| 15:24.50 | jhutchins | anddam: I'd put it in rc.local, you might consider the network up/down scripts too. |
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| 15:36.59 | At00mic | How to choose a good laptop for Debian? |
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| 15:38.02 | mtn | At00mic: use a search engine, type in: linux laptop |
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| 15:38.30 | At00mic | But I wanted to know how to choose manually |
| 15:38.45 | At00mic | By parts... |
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| 15:39.37 | mtn | At00mic: same basic method works a treat ;) |
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| 15:42.27 | jargon | what was the ffmpeg commandline media file conversion replacement again? |
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| 15:43.31 | Nik05 | jargon libav? although ffmpeg entered debian sid again yesterday :P |
| 15:43.44 | jargon | libav. thanks! |
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| 15:44.38 | Nykee | new ffmpeg version is out |
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| 15:45.29 | zz2 | so nobody knows why the screen should blacken after boot? |
| 15:45.46 | mtn | zz2: video drivers? |
| 15:45.59 | mtn | or the lack thereof ;) |
| 15:46.18 | Nykee | http://ffmpeg.org/ |
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| 15:46.29 | zz2 | mh and what could I do? |
| 15:46.31 | jhutchins | zz2: framebuffer, apic, apci |
| 15:46.38 | jhutchins | zz2: Give us much more information. |
| 15:46.58 | Nykee | new site looks great |
| 15:47.03 | zz2 | I am on an iMac, debian is on an external Volume, first boot |
| 15:47.09 | An_Ony_Moose | is there a good reason that the session spawned by nodm doesn't get killed when nodm does? |
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| 15:47.22 | zz2 | asked for my passphrase, checked everything, no error message |
| 15:47.30 | zz2 | and then... black |
| 15:48.56 | jhutchins | zz2: Ok, if you're getting as far as a graphical login screen then all of the basics are working ok. There would seem to be a problem with the desktop. Can you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get a console login prompt? |
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| 15:49.25 | jhutchins | zz2: Is this an intel or powerpc imac? |
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| 15:52.52 | zz2 | jhutchins intel, Core 2 Duo |
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| 15:53.32 | zz2 | and no, no reaction when hitting ctrl alt F1 |
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| 15:54.23 | Nykee | try booting with init 3 |
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| 15:55.04 | zz2 | Got any instruction? |
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| 15:56.13 | Nykee | you coming here for help |
| 15:56.15 | Nykee | ?? |
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| 15:57.42 | zz2 | Yes, I come here for help and since "try booting with init 3" doesn't ring no bell, I was kindly (at least I hope) asking if you have any reference about it that could guide me |
| 15:57.52 | mtn | zz2: you could try booting with nomodeset in the grub line |
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| 15:58.59 | zz2 | thanks mtn, and how could I switch to nomodeset? When booting or else? |
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| 15:59.31 | mtn | zz2: during boot, edit the line in grub that has the kernel. add nomodeset to the line |
| 15:59.55 | mtn | zz2: this is for ubuntu, but is the same for debian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 |
| 16:00.05 | mtn | zz2: oops |
| 16:00.06 | jhutchins | Nykee: Init levels don't mean much in debian, 2-5 are the same. |
| 16:00.17 | mtn | zz2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu |
| 16:00.51 | Nykee | init 3 dosent startx |
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| 16:01.24 | jhutchins | Nykee: Yes it does. Again, 2-5 are the same on ubuntu. RedHat branch is different, 3 is multiuser console, 5 is GUI. |
| 16:01.44 | jhutchins | Er, s/ubuntu/debian, though true of both. |
| 16:01.57 | Nykee | redhat is using systemd |
| 16:02.38 | jhutchins | Nykee: Compare the contents of rc2.d and rc3.d for further enlightenment. |
| 16:02.57 | jhutchins | Nykee: Niether one actually uses startx any more, X is started by the dm. |
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| 16:03.28 | zz2 | mtn, thanks, going to try |
| 16:03.39 | mtn | zz2: :) |
| 16:03.51 | Nykee | just when one has goten holde of thinks they have to change everything again |
| 16:03.58 | jhutchins | Nykee: Yep. |
| 16:04.06 | zz2 | Oh, and since the screen is just black and I can't input anything, I reset the pc |
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| 16:04.29 | jhutchins | zz2: Yeah, that's about all you can do. YOu could try to connect to ssh, but it's probably not running. |
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| 16:04.42 | zz2 | and then the debian volume is like locked, doesn't appear in the volume list |
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| 16:05.26 | jhutchins | zz2: That could be the actual problem. |
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| 16:05.48 | jhutchins | zz2: What kind of external storage is it? |
| 16:05.53 | zz2 | (I add a detail, in case it would prove meaningful: I chose to have /home as a separate partition) |
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| 16:06.08 | zz2 | A 500GB Seagate, USB |
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| 16:06.45 | jhutchins | zz2: Might explore further with disk manager. |
| 16:07.03 | jhutchins | Will OSX handle ext natively? |
| 16:07.15 | zz2 | unfortunately not |
| 16:07.33 | zosky` | does deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free for flashplugin install still works ? |
| 16:07.42 | Dudytz | hi all ... I need to build jessie kernel from source, changing only one configuration (the kernel compression method to gzip instead of xz) ... I am following this guide: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building ... where can I find the default kernel config file used to build the official jessie kernel? |
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| 16:07.56 | zz2 | I have headless raspberry pi I could use to check the disk |
| 16:09.01 | mtn | Dudytz: oddly enough, in /boot |
| 16:09.45 | Dudytz | mtn: the default config is not in the package? |
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| 16:09.56 | mtn | Dudytz: don't know |
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| 16:10.07 | Dudytz | mtn: thank you |
| 16:10.13 | lmat | I'm having some sound trouble. One user on the computer doesn't get sound (the device shows as "dummy device"), but the other users can use sound. |
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| 16:10.25 | lmat | On the trouble user, there is no other device available via the sound settings GUI. |
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| 16:11.31 | lmat | I see stuff online about this, but I don't see anything affecting just one user :( |
| 16:11.42 | hramrach | hello |
| 16:12.00 | hramrach | how do I tell where my libraries are? |
| 16:12.20 | hramrach | since we have multiarch |
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| 16:14.17 | jaccob | I am connected to internet but my browsers can't connect to any sites |
| 16:15.19 | hramrach | hmm, I probably do not want to know |
| 16:15.29 | SynrG | the internet is down |
| 16:15.31 | hramrach | and just let dlopen to figure it out |
| 16:15.32 | jaccob | How can I check if a port is blocked or something or http is blocked somehow |
| 16:15.49 | jaccob | it just happen recently |
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| 16:16.08 | hramrach | jaccob: I would try a different browser first |
| 16:16.22 | jaccob | hramrach, I did, both chromium and firefox |
| 16:16.29 | jaccob | sorry chromium and iceweasel |
| 16:16.33 | lmat | ip addr; ip link; |
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| 16:18.02 | lmat | Oh, the problem user doesn't have nearly as much stuff in their alsamixer... |
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| 16:19.33 | jaccob | I can ping domains, but I when I try to visit domains in browser it fails, and when I try apt-get install , it fails to resolve to the sources domains |
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| 16:23.46 | Nik05 | jaccob does the host command work? |
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| 16:24.41 | jaccob | Nik05, I don' t know how to use, you mean hostname? |
| 16:25.32 | Nik05 | $ host debian.org |
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| 16:26.06 | jaccob | Nik05, yep works, I think my isp did a dns server change over or something, I think it is working again |
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| 16:27.41 | jaccob | google seems to be down, is it down for anyone else? |
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| 16:28.27 | pclover | i head somebody else in networking was having issues |
| 16:28.29 | Nik05 | jaccob there a many servers |
| 16:28.44 | Nik05 | jaccob which ip? |
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| 16:29.19 | zz2 | jacob, there is a website (several acqually) to check in this kind of situations: search (not on google, and not just because it is down) down just for me |
| 16:29.22 | jaccob | Nik05, yeah, but both google.com and play.golang.org seem to do down from here. My ip? |
| 16:29.35 | Nik05 | no the ip of google you are trying to conect with |
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| 16:30.12 | zz2 | Actually it looks like my problem (screen that goes black) ddoesn't come from the linux partt, but from the OS X, since starting from a ubuntu volume I get the same result: black screen |
| 16:30.44 | Nik05 | zz2 maybe you need to turn on the screen or increase the brightness |
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| 16:30.56 | jaccob | oh you know what, when I was saying I can ping domains earlier, I was mistaken, I was pinging on my vps connection not my own |
| 16:31.03 | Nik05 | :P |
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| 16:31.46 | Nik05 | jaccob can you ping to ips? |
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| 16:32.04 | S-Work | Hi, ssllabs.com tested our servers ssl implementation and graded it F because it supports SSL 2, heartbleed issues. But we're running debian squeeze with openssl 0.9.8, am I correct in assuming the site is wrong as heartbleed wasn't implemented in the debian squeeze openssl versions? |
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| 16:32.45 | jaccob | Nik05, ips? I am just gonna wait it out a few mins, I sure it will be back online, I am guessing somethng is happenning at my isp? |
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| 16:33.08 | Nik05 | jaccob can you ping to ip's? $ ping 8.8.8.8 or something |
| 16:33.14 | jaccob | Nik05, I have cogeco, and I tried to ping them, but no luck |
| 16:33.50 | jaccob | Nik05, nope, its not pinging 8.8.8.8 either |
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| 16:34.09 | Nik05 | jaccob and a traceroute to 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 16:34.35 | lmat | jaccob: ip addr; ip link; |
| 16:34.45 | Nik05 | right sorry and that |
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| 16:35.23 | jaccob | Nik05, traceroute is working but pinging isnt |
| 16:35.43 | anddam | worst experience ever, cross-os terminal session using chrome desktop |
| 16:36.05 | anddam | the remote host is windows running Debian in VBox, my keyboard layout isn't US |
| 16:36.09 | anddam | the _horror_ |
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| 16:36.18 | anddam | but I set up the ssh tunnel |
| 16:36.23 | jaccob | eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT qlen 1000 link/ether 00:18:8b:6e:d8:1b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff |
| 16:36.34 | anddam | chrome *remote* desktop |
| 16:36.53 | lmat | jaccob: And is there an ip address under that? |
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| 16:37.18 | jaccob | inet 192.168.0.102/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0 |
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| 16:38.02 | Nik05 | jaccob traceroute is working? really? |
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| 16:38.24 | jaccob | Nik05, yeah |
| 16:38.37 | Nik05 | try ping again... |
| 16:38.41 | lmat | jaccob: and when you type ping google.com; does it mention a public IP address? |
| 16:38.49 | jaccob | Nik05, but slowly, pinging isn't working |
| 16:39.13 | jaccob | lmat, yeah PING www.google.com (74.125.225.52) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 16:39.17 | Nik05 | jaccob but does the traceroute reach destination? |
| 16:39.24 | lmat | jaccob: So you have DNS going :) |
| 16:39.29 | jaccob | Nik05, yes, but it slower than usual |
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| 16:39.59 | jaccob | probably in a few mins or so it will be going back to normal, must be my isp on nothing to do with my system |
| 16:40.41 | Nik05 | and if you call your isp, they say no thing wrong here. "How long are your cable?, Do you use wifi? blablablalb" |
| 16:40.41 | jaccob | yep, its pinging ok now |
| 16:41.06 | jaccob | Nik05, yeah, such a pain to deal with cable company |
| 16:41.06 | Nik05 | I had that for some time until finally some employee said there were more problems |
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| 16:42.20 | anddam | is there a dyndns client working with no-ip in debian's repository? |
| 16:42.40 | anddam | I'm not sure "-- search no-ip" is correct syntax |
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| 16:43.18 | anddam | oops, it's in sid https://packages.debian.org/sid/noip2 |
| 16:43.35 | Nik05 | not for me |
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| 16:44.09 | Nik05 | anddam thats only for m68k |
| 16:44.28 | anddam | now that's handy |
| 16:44.31 | anddam | time to revive the old Mac |
| 16:44.43 | Nik05 | but there are problably other packages |
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| 16:45.25 | Nik05 | anddam https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/inadyn |
| 16:45.26 | Nik05 | w 12 |
| 16:45.43 | anddam | thanks, how did you find? |
| 16:45.46 | anddam | what string search I mean |
| 16:45.54 | Nik05 | aptitude search ~dno-ip |
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| 16:46.02 | anddam | I already built their client since it's very tiny |
| 16:46.21 | Nik05 | apt-cache search no-ip works fine too |
| 16:46.41 | babilen | dpkg: no-ip |
| 16:46.42 | dpkg | No-IP is a dynamic DNS service provider. The ddclient (noip protocol) and inadyn update clients are compatible with this service. The no-ip.com update client (noip2) was removed from Debian to resolve bug #653957. http://www.noip.com/integrate/request |
| 16:46.54 | babilen | (as does asking our omniscient bot) |
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| 16:47.51 | Nik05 | nice babilen :) |
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| 16:54.59 | anddam | Nik05: ah apt-cache, I was using aptitude search |
| 16:55.07 | anddam | thanks |
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| 16:57.37 | Nik05 | anddam you can use aptitude but its only searching package names by default, ~d searches in description |
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| 16:58.11 | anddam | Nik05: didn't know that |
| 16:58.24 | lmat | jaccob: congrats! |
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| 16:59.05 | Nik05 | anddam http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html I have no idea why this isnt in the aptitude manual but oke... |
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| 17:03.46 | SynrG | Nik05, anddam: that's the aptitude manual, provided by aptitude-en-doc |
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| 17:04.10 | anddam | maybe naive question but can I specify multiple -R options with ssh? |
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| 17:04.16 | anddam | SynrG: noticed, thanks |
| 17:04.23 | SynrG | Nik05, anddam: a man page is 'quick reference' doc. for complicated software packages, it can't cover everything |
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| 17:04.27 | SynrG | the user manual is for all the rest |
| 17:04.32 | anddam | I guess that's a mission for TIAS |
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| 17:04.49 | Nik05 | SynrG but why isnt the user manual in debian? |
| 17:04.51 | Nik05 | or is it? |
| 17:04.59 | SynrG | Nik05: i just gave you the name of the package |
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| 17:05.02 | SynrG | install it |
| 17:05.24 | Nik05 | oops :$ sorry netsplits burried your comment |
| 17:05.34 | anddam | nice, I can |
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| 17:05.47 | SynrG | Nik05: and it's even one of the Recommends of aptitude ... |
| 17:05.55 | SynrG | are you, perchance, running a system with recommends disabled? |
| 17:05.56 | Nik05 | yeah i see its already installed |
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| 17:05.59 | SynrG | if so, you get what you deserve :) |
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| 17:06.03 | SynrG | good |
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| 17:08.34 | Nik05 | oke so its somewhere in /usr/share/aptitude/README :) |
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| 17:17.20 | tremon | doke: type weechat[tab] instead of [enter] |
| 17:17.55 | tremon | (the generic answer is to use dpkg -L to review the files installed by the package) |
| 17:18.55 | doke | tremon: It worked, added -curses. Thank you for the trouble shooting tip! |
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| 18:34.18 | jhutchins | An_Ony_Moose: kdm, gdm, xdm, lightdm, etc. |
| 18:34.23 | jhutchins | aptitude search dm |
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| 18:42.03 | An_Ony_Moose | jhutchins: I don't want to pull in all the dependencies of kdm, gdm, or lightdm |
| 18:42.29 | synmuffin | oh lawd i need help please! I'm trying to setup debian on this server that has 4 scsi disks using raid I'm at the installation part where its asking for Guided use entire disk or use entire + LVM (not even sure what LVM is) I have no clue what I'm going with Raid stuff :/ |
| 18:42.54 | An_Ony_Moose | jhutchins: and xdm has no autologin |
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| 18:44.05 | RedDeath | Back |
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| 18:46.09 | sine0 | how do i search for software that is local |
| 18:46.19 | sylar | what to do about this error: zmwatch[13119]: ERR [Can't get shared memory id '7a6d000f', 15: No such file or directory] ? |
| 18:46.20 | sine0 | sudo apt-cache search foo |
| 18:46.29 | sine0 | just searches for packages to install |
| 18:46.52 | centrx | dpkg -l has a complete list |
| 18:46.53 | dpkg | ii has a complete list 3.7-2 centrx's private stamp collection |
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| 18:47.14 | sine0 | how to search for specific |
| 18:47.19 | jhutchins | !lvm |
| 18:47.20 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:47.27 | centrx | sine0, I use dpkg -l |grep X |
| 18:47.58 | jhutchins | synmuffin: I don't recommend it, it adds a layer of complexity and makes many tasks more difficult. |
| 18:48.32 | jhutchins | synmuffin: Some people find it makes some things easier, and it allows you to do things like span physical volumes (which I think is a bad idea anyway). |
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| 18:49.24 | jhutchins | sine0: Specific what? |
| 18:50.18 | sine0 | jhutchins: whatever im searching for |
| 18:50.34 | sine0 | at that point it was to see if I had php5-mysql installed |
| 18:51.15 | jhutchins | sine0: Ah, as centrx said, dpkg -l is the list of everything installed, dpkg -l php* lists anything beginning with php. |
| 18:51.33 | jhutchins | sine0: Look for "ii" at the beginning of the line for installed packages. |
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| 18:53.32 | synmuffin | ahhh thanks for that, got ya so like for example I have 4 scsi disks that are 100g each, i could take 2 of em and make em act as 1 drive using LVM |
| 18:53.32 | synmuffin | that could be nasty if something fails :s |
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| 18:58.55 | jhutchins | synmuffin: Indeed. |
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| 18:59.21 | jhutchins | synmuffin: I know it's come a long way from nt4's disk manager, which could do that, but I still think it encourages bad habits. |
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| 19:10.07 | vcarney | Attempting to install postgresql on Raspian is not working with: sudo apt-get install postgresql |
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| 19:11.02 | centrx | !raspbian |
| 19:11.02 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 19:12.25 | vcarney | ty centrx |
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| 19:18.48 | jhutchins | Probably a variation in the package name like exim4. |
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| 19:32.41 | synmuffin | fml this is not going well, on PPC boot you need that little PPC partition and i'm guess that can't be on a raid 0 cause it has no idea what to do with it |
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| 19:34.04 | jhutchins | synmuffin: An efi partition? |
| 19:35.32 | synmuffin | i'm guessing its called a PPC partition in the installer |
| 19:35.57 | somiaj | in what installer? |
| 19:36.11 | synmuffin | the debian installer |
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| 19:43.52 | sandstein | mh, my sid system stopped booting after an update yesterday... |
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| 19:44.21 | sandstein | I think systemd 215-4 has landed on this system yesterday. |
| 19:45.08 | Z1T1TTT | Hello, when I right-click my desktop, I see a strange menu. what is all about? http://picpaste.com/pics/2014-09-17-214240_1280x800_scrot-xij8h5Xx.1410983062.png |
| 19:45.39 | somiaj | sandstein: well you could try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and see if people there have ran across a similar issue. Or try to figure out what you think broken and start seeing if there is already a bug report on the BTS |
| 19:45.43 | sandstein | Z1T1TTT: you might have chooesen a different de |
| 19:45.53 | sandstein | de -> desktop environment? |
| 19:45.58 | Z1T1TTT | sandstein: I only have one, that is LXDE |
| 19:46.17 | shay_shay | Z1T1TTT: theres a setting somewhere for that, thats the openbox menu |
| 19:46.28 | shay_shay | Z1T1TTT: openbox is the WM of lxde |
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| 19:47.05 | Z1T1TTT | shay_shay: any clue as of what should i try to do ? |
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| 19:48.21 | magyar | hi, I'm running jessie and would like to setup a virtual machine using qemu/kvm. Is there a graphical configuration application that I can use? |
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| 19:48.36 | shay_shay | Z1T1TTT: In LXDE, right click the desktop, choose Desktop Preferences > Advanced tab and untick the "Show Menus" line. Log out > log in. |
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| 19:48.49 | shay_shay | Z1T1TTT: sorry if i had lxde installed i could tell you for sure |
| 19:49.04 | shay_shay | Z1T1TTT: but i had to google that so it may not be true anymore |
| 19:49.21 | shay_shay | rest assured there is a setting for it and its as simple as unticking a box |
| 19:49.39 | Z1T1TTT | shay_shay: when i right click my desktop i get what u see the in screenshot above |
| 19:49.50 | shay_shay | Z1T1TTT: i see that |
| 19:50.01 | Z1T1TTT | shay_shay: hence no Desktop Preferences |
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| 19:50.18 | shay_shay | :O |
| 19:50.30 | shay_shay | We're on the same page |
| 19:50.46 | shay_shay | we have been since before I told you the solution! |
| 19:51.19 | shay_shay | its the openbox menu, its optional in lxde |
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| 19:52.17 | shay_shay | although openbox menu is better dood, give it a chance |
| 19:52.29 | shay_shay | disable the icons on your desktop |
| 19:52.44 | shay_shay | the middle click allows you to switch workspaces and programs quickly |
| 19:52.45 | anasule | is 0.9.8 realy the newest version of openssl that debian squeeze 6 supports? |
| 19:53.07 | shay_shay | the right click is your programs menu |
| 19:53.13 | shay_shay | and it's highly customizable |
| 19:53.49 | Z1T1TTT | ok |
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| 19:54.30 | shay_shay | get package "obmenu" if ou want a wysiwyg way of editing it |
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| 19:55.02 | shay_shay | you can make it automatically populate from the applications you have installed too |
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| 19:56.13 | Z1T1TTT | shay_shay: ure talking me into doing something else then I originally had in mind |
| 19:56.26 | Z1T1TTT | i just want my orginal stuff back thats all |
| 19:56.43 | shay_shay | i told you how to put it back already |
| 19:56.58 | Z1T1TTT | ok thx |
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| 19:57.09 | shay_shay | O.O |
| 19:57.26 | shay_shay | he's going to go reinstall windows |
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| 19:57.56 | An_Ony_Moose | magyar: Just having searched on the repos, there's virtualbricks |
| 19:58.04 | An_Ony_Moose | haven't tried it myself though |
| 19:58.33 | magyar | An_Ony_Moose: thanks |
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| 20:00.54 | DelphiWorld | hi debianists, |
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| 20:01.08 | DelphiWorld | where to add a hostname to be resolved by my box? |
| 20:01.14 | DelphiWorld | example |
| 20:01.21 | DelphiWorld | ping mydeb will resolv to 1.1.1.1 |
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| 20:07.06 | besfort | I did an apt-get upgrade and this is showing up |
| 20:07.07 | besfort | http://pastebin.com/PSdxDtaY |
| 20:07.12 | idodeisuke | When I execute "sudo aptitude install -f", aptitude wants to remove an truckload of packages. When I execute "sudo apt-get install -f", everything is OK, according to apt-get. Is this a problem? Who's right, aptitude or apt-get? |
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| 20:07.20 | Netronix | Hi all |
| 20:07.22 | besfort | I cant remove neither reinstall or rebuild that package |
| 20:07.43 | Netronix | I have looked on the web to find something but I didn't |
| 20:07.51 | Netronix | Hope you can help me :) |
| 20:08.39 | Netronix | --> I'm looking to find an option or something to make my PC automatically connect to my Wi-Fi |
| 20:08.56 | Netronix | when I ifup wlan0 it works |
| 20:09.11 | ompaul | idodeisuke: apt-get update && apt-get -f install |
| 20:09.18 | Netronix | but I would like that to auto connect when the AP goes UP |
| 20:09.44 | Netronix | If someone as a solution, I take it :) |
| 20:09.57 | ompaul | idodeisuke: apt-get dist-upgrade for sid or testing - anything else then you have safe upgrade stuff |
| 20:10.19 | ompaul | idodeisuke: if stable that is not how it should behave |
| 20:10.35 | idodeisuke | ompaul, I'm using sid. |
| 20:10.44 | besfort | and then this one as well http://pastebin.com/67ASgmqR |
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| 20:12.47 | ompaul | idodeisuke: so you now have sufficent info - aptitude on sid can be interesting because it tries to resolve things - however sid is about stepping forward semi sanely so apt-get seems to me to do better (personal opinion and if you don't agree feel free to have aptitude remove lots for you :)) |
| 20:13.41 | idodeisuke | ompaul, Thx. When I was using Min 17, aptitude was the way to go, since it ain't experimental like sid. |
| 20:14.04 | ompaul | experimental is something else in debian |
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| 20:17.22 | DelphiWorld | guys hostname -a give me: hostname: Name or service not known |
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| 20:18.21 | N3X15 | DelphiWorld, apt-get install hostname |
| 20:18.24 | DelphiWorld | uname (a also give none |
| 20:18.38 | DelphiWorld | its there allready N3X15 |
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| 20:21.01 | _4dnan_ | Hi, I've searched a lot and found people with the same problem but never an apparent solution. There is a "sizzling" sound coming out of my speakers. I have Alsamixer (no pulseaudio). Any help ? It's a netbook. |
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| 20:21.12 | _4dnan_ | Oh and Debian sid. |
| 20:22.17 | DelphiWorld | guyss... hostname -a give nothing! |
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| 20:26.34 | LtL | DelphiWorld: what does 'hostname' say |
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| 20:27.59 | DelphiWorld | LtL: none |
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| 20:28.19 | anddam | DelphiWorld: what does "which hostname" says then |
| 20:28.44 | DelphiWorld | anddam: /bin/hostname :P |
| 20:28.50 | DelphiWorld | anddam: i resolved half of it |
| 20:29.04 | DelphiWorld | but what i want is to be able to resolv this host localy to a ip |
| 20:29.09 | anddam | DelphiWorld: because you have an advantage, you can read the monitor |
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| 20:29.31 | LtL | DelphiWorld: set one, also add it to /etc/hostname /etc/mailname and /etc/hosts .. you have something odd going on there. |
| 20:29.32 | anddam | with the incomplete info and the broken grammar it's hard to figure what's happening |
| 20:29.45 | DelphiWorld | anddam: yes, cause i am blind;) |
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| 20:30.11 | anddam | is that meant literally or is it a bad joke? |
| 20:30.12 | DelphiWorld | anddam: simple. hostname of my box is rb. pinging rb dont resolv to a ip, i want it to resolv to the local public ip ofthe box |
| 20:30.21 | DelphiWorld | anddam: realy blind using tts |
| 20:30.26 | anddam | my respect |
| 20:30.31 | anddam | DelphiWorld: my respect |
| 20:30.35 | DelphiWorld | thank anddam |
| 20:30.48 | anddam | DelphiWorld: I have my issues with regular terminal |
| 20:30.54 | DelphiWorld | :) |
| 20:31.06 | DelphiWorld | i use windows to access ssh using putty |
| 20:32.15 | anddam | DelphiWorld: is there a line defining an IP address for "rb" in file /etc/hosts ? |
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| 20:33.01 | anddam | DelphiWorld: you can figure with "grep -q rb /etc/hosts" |
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| 20:40.28 | anddam | oh the joy of rebooting a system from a reverse ssh tunnel |
| 20:40.30 | anddam | will I be back? |
| 20:40.50 | centrx | hah |
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| 20:44.50 | DelphiWorld | anddam: no, only rb, nothing more |
| 20:45.01 | An_Ony_Moose | is there a good reason that the session spawned by nodm doesn't get killed when nodm does, a way to change this behaviour, or a nice alternative to nodm? |
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| 20:46.31 | anddam | DelphiWorld: how does the line containing "rb" look like? |
| 20:46.46 | anddam | DelphiWorld: it should be something like: |
| 20:46.50 | anddam | 127.0.0.1 rb |
| 20:46.50 | DelphiWorld | pretty weird, this is my first time having issue with host |
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| 20:47.23 | anddam | yea, hosts is usually a good file |
| 20:47.35 | DelphiWorld | anddam: hostname contin only "rb" |
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| 20:47.55 | anddam | not hostname, I'm talking about file /etc/hosts |
| 20:49.25 | DelphiWorld | ouffffff anddam, hold on... i think i got my issue |
| 20:49.51 | anddam | I'm freezed |
| 20:49.59 | anddam | (not really I'll keep doing what I alread was) |
| 20:51.37 | DelphiWorld | lol anddam |
| 20:51.39 | DelphiWorld | issue solved |
| 20:51.45 | anddam | what was it? |
| 20:51.50 | DelphiWorld | echo '1.1.1.1 rb' >> /etc/hosts |
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| 20:54.48 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | why is iceweasel compiled with -Os while upstream firefox with -O3 ? |
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| 21:01.59 | anddam | DelphiWorld: nice |
| 21:02.16 | DelphiWorld | anddam: :) |
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| 21:13.12 | karlpinc | An_Ony_Moose: You could use gdm3 and an auto-login. |
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| 21:17.59 | An_Ony_Moose | karlpinc: Need to get 247 MB of archives. After unpacking 757 MB will be used. |
| 21:18.22 | An_Ony_Moose | karlpinc: I was hoping for something more lightweight ;) |
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| 21:19.42 | dune | An_Ony_Moose: apt-get update && apt-cache show lightdm |
| 21:20.15 | An_Ony_Moose | dune: also takes 148MB |
| 21:20.47 | dune | An_Ony_Moose: xdm |
| 21:20.52 | An_Ony_Moose | dune: no autologin |
| 21:21.09 | An_Ony_Moose | the nicest thing would be getting what I want out of nodm's 125kB |
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| 21:21.56 | jhutchins | An_Ony_Moose: What kind of system are you working on that you need to quibble over kilobytes? |
| 21:22.08 | dune | An_Ony_Moose: Why using autologin? |
| 21:22.40 | karlpinc | An_Ony_Moose: slim might have an autologin. But maybe not. I forget. |
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| 21:23.38 | Phyks | hi. I'm trying to build a python3 for the raspberry pi and thus uses the official archive and "checkinstall" but the install fails. However, using "make install", everything works fine. Do you have any ideas ? |
| 21:23.59 | karlpinc | An_Ony_Moose: If you're really committed. Just start X from /etc/inittab. (I always forget how to configure the session, but there's a way.) |
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| 21:25.00 | An_Ony_Moose | jhutchins: it's not kilobytes, it's 150MB |
| 21:25.23 | karlpinc | Still, it's just some disk. |
| 21:25.37 | An_Ony_Moose | I'll try what you said though karlpinc , thanks |
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| 21:26.30 | karlpinc | An_Ony_Moose: Yah. Just forget about a dm entirely. You could consider something like startx. |
| 21:26.34 | jhutchins | You can get a terrabyte sata for less than $50 these days. |
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| 21:45.07 | karlpinc | is supremely lazy and is still using ATA because replacing boxes is work |
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| 21:53.12 | jhutchins | If it works, why create waste? |
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| 22:11.35 | jhutchins | Is stable-updates still used, or has backports replaced it now that it's official? |
| 22:11.51 | DelphiWorld | nighter guys |
| 22:12.06 | DelphiWorld | thank anddam for your H-E-L-P :P |
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| 22:32.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps does raindz/zfs require all of my disks be of equal size? |
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| 22:43.26 | mengesb | I'm rebuilding linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64_3.2.60-1+deb7u3 and wanted to add a default kernel parameter CONFIG_TCP_ZERO_.... how do I make that default to yes ? |
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| 22:48.10 | Brigo | mengesb, i guess you can edit the kernel config file before compile it. |
| 22:48.42 | mengesb | i modified the Kconfig under an x86 directory |
| 22:48.46 | mengesb | would that be sufficient? |
| 22:48.56 | mengesb | (compiling right now, so can't check) |
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| 22:51.17 | Brigo | mengesb, i think the configure file is in the root directory may be starting with a dot. No sure i do not compile kernels for a lot of time :) |
| 22:51.33 | mengesb | well i'm making a package |
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| 23:06.30 | sleenk | mengesb: what version of debian are you compiling for? |
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| 23:06.45 | mengesb | sleenk: wheezy |
| 23:06.58 | sleenk | mengesb: how did you obtain the kernel source? apt-get source linux-image (or something other)? |
| 23:07.09 | mengesb | sleenk: apt-get source linux |
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| 23:09.23 | sleenk | mengesb: i've never compiled a kernel from package before, and it's been a while but if you want, i can try to get you started |
| 23:10.42 | sleenk | mengesb: have you taken a look at: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage ? |
| 23:10.43 | takeyourhatoff | I want to secure a directory served by apache with basic authentication. My server also serves over ssl. How can I define the authentication without copy and pasting between default and default-ssl sites? |
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| 23:11.07 | sleenk | takeyourhatoff: if you are using a shared directory, you may be able to use one .htaccess file |
| 23:11.08 | mengesb | yeah; i have, but there's nothing there really about setting default kernel options |
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| 23:11.24 | sleenk | mengesb: normally, the configuration file is .config (or at least the last time i did it) |
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| 23:11.36 | sleenk | alternatively you could: make menuconfig and find it manually |
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| 23:14.32 | sleenk | mengesb: what is CONFIG_TCP_ZERO suppose to do? |
| 23:16.14 | mengesb | arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig is what i edited |
| 23:16.27 | mengesb | CONFIG_TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION=y is the setting |
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| 23:17.07 | sleenk | mengesb: i think that may be the default configuration if you tried to generate default values for your architechture, not the actual config file |
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| 23:17.41 | sleenk | mengesb: in the root of the linux source directory, check to see if .config exists |
| 23:17.50 | mengesb | well, so when the config is generated and kernel built, that'd make that default config right? |
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| 23:18.11 | mengesb | there is no local .config |
| 23:18.23 | mengesb | in ~/linux-3.2.60 |
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| 23:19.22 | Brigo | mengesb, you can generate and edit the .config file with make config or make menuconfig or even make xmenuconfig, i think |
| 23:20.06 | mengesb | well, yeah, I can for THIS build, but it won't package it |
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| 23:20.27 | Brigo | why not? |
| 23:20.32 | sleenk | that line: fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_amd64_none_real # if you need the linux-headers-XXX-common package e.g. for DMKS modules |
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| 23:20.51 | sleenk | actually, ignore that |
| 23:21.09 | mengesb | well i'm going to see if my vm comes back |
| 23:21.11 | sleenk | there is a way to use debian/rules or debian/rules.gen or something to build a .deb package |
| 23:21.13 | somiaj | mengesb: after you modify the config with say menuconfig how do you then compile the debian package? |
| 23:21.22 | sleenk | mengesb: wait.. you are trying to compile a kernel for a VM? |
| 23:21.39 | mengesb | yeah its a vm, what else would it be =) lol |
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| 23:21.48 | somiaj | I thought the newer kernels had a make target which will actually make a deb from the current .config you generated and not need any additional tools like make-kpkg in days past. |
| 23:22.07 | sleenk | mengesb: do you have access to the boot loader on your VM? |
| 23:24.33 | sleenk | if you have a VM from a provider, you may not be able to upgrade your kernel, depending on what type of VM it is |
| 23:24.43 | sleenk | someone correct me if i'm wrong though.. |
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| 23:26.01 | mengesb | sleenk: nah |
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| 23:26.05 | mengesb | you can compile kernels |
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| 23:27.02 | sleenk | mengesb: can i message you for a moment? |
| 23:27.17 | mengesb | sure |
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| 23:44.12 | justanotheruser | why does debian install keep making a grub boot system that involves my flash drive? |
| 23:44.21 | justanotheruser | I explicitly marked my flash drive as not bootable |
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| 23:44.47 | justanotheruser | but it can't boot except from flash drive. |
| 23:44.53 | mtn | justanotheruser: how did you make the usb disk? what tool/command did you use |
| 23:45.06 | justanotheruser | mtn: I bought it? |
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| 23:45.23 | mtn | justanotheruser: you bought a debian boot disk? pretty cool! |
| 23:45.40 | justanotheruser | mtn: When did I imply I bought it as a debian boot disk? |
| 23:46.13 | mtn | justanotheruser: what install media did you actually use. I can quit guessing at that point ;) |
| 23:46.25 | justanotheruser | mtn: a flash drive |
| 23:46.32 | mtn | justanotheruser: how did you make the usb disk? what tool/command did you use |
| 23:46.33 | justanotheruser | but I installed to /dev/sda |
| 23:47.01 | justanotheruser | mtn: unetbootin to make the install disk, and that installed grub to the flash drive *and* /dev/sda1 |
| 23:47.08 | mtn | !unetbootin |
| 23:47.08 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 23:47.29 | justanotheruser | !usb install |
| 23:47.29 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 23:47.35 | mtn | justanotheruser: use these instruction: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 23:47.45 | justanotheruser | mtn: thanks |
| 23:47.50 | mtn | justanotheruser: welcome |
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| 23:51.33 | symptom_ | anyone using portknocking daemon knockd? |
| 23:52.42 | cafuego | No, I just use key based auth. |
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| 23:54.07 | symptom_ | i just dislike all the bruting in my logs |
| 23:54.31 | cafuego | Then don't look at the logs. |
| 23:54.34 | cafuego | shrugs |
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| 23:55.49 | mengesb | symptom_: there's always fail2ban |
| 23:56.34 | symptom_ | yup, still dont want certain things 'public' |
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| 23:58.41 | cafuego | symptom_: that's what ssh tunnels are for |
| 23:58.52 | cafuego | Don't want them public, don't allow access to them. At all. |
| 23:58.55 | Skyp | quit |
