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| 01:18.12 | jorge2 | which is more up to date ubuntu 12.04 or debian stable? |
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| 01:22.48 | slbtc | can someone verify this is right? https://dpaste.de/HEoY I have that on ubuntu in order for me to dual boot debian and windows 8.1 |
| 01:23.11 | slbtc | when I enter the command to update they all come back as errors |
| 01:23.56 | slbtc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0&html5=1 <--- instructions I'm following to get debian to boot with windows 8.1 |
| 01:24.29 | slbtc | if* |
| 01:25.10 | slbtc | I have debian installed but it won't boot up it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and hangs. |
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| 01:27.49 | mrgoodbytes | hello |
| 01:28.31 | gzcwnk_ | anyone know how to get doevcot 2 to work on debian? I odnt seem to have it listening on port 993 I think |
| 01:29.05 | mrgoodbytes | idonno, i have something strange going on. maybe a domain collision! |
| 01:29.11 | epinky | Hello, I've used slapadd to restore an LDAP database, everything goes fine, it works few minutes and suddendly the service stops and I get "ldif_read_file: checksum error on "/etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config.ldif", I've asked for help in the openldap channel but they sent me here, because I'm using debian |
| 01:29.19 | mrgoodbytes | i mean domain name collision or something. |
| 01:31.24 | mrgoodbytes | hello is anybody home? |
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| 01:31.55 | epinky | mrgoodbytes: domain name collision? what is that? |
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| 01:32.25 | mrgoodbytes | i am running debian jessie - on webchat cause it's updating... |
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| 01:32.42 | mrgoodbytes | anyway, my localhost is named debian.home |
| 01:32.49 | Resilience | jello to everyone, Im looking for some info on authorization on linux, more exactly.... what can be "authorized" (I am a bginner on this, just searching for definitions and some start material to read) |
| 01:33.06 | mrgoodbytes | ok, why is it when i type in dr.foo it resolves to my localhost webserver! |
| 01:33.17 | mrgoodbytes | nslookup shows 127.0.53.53 |
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| 01:33.54 | epinky | dr.foo is another local machine? |
| 01:34.01 | mrgoodbytes | dr.foo is not in my hosts file or virtual domains |
| 01:34.30 | epinky | and why you type dr.foo? |
| 01:34.35 | mrgoodbytes | no, it resolves to my laptop running jessie and apache. i test this by going to one of my /proj and it's definately my laptop. |
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| 01:35.03 | mrgoodbytes | everybody else says they don't have this problem, wth? |
| 01:35.19 | epinky | what is dr.foo? |
| 01:35.26 | mrgoodbytes | i have no idea! |
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| 01:36.04 | mrgoodbytes | my hostname is standard debian stuff and /etc/hosts looks normal. no dr no foo and no dr.foo and no 127.0.53.53 |
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| 01:36.57 | epinky | mrgoodbytes: you told : "mrgoodbytesok, why is it when i type in dr.foo it resolves to my localhost webserver!" |
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| 01:37.07 | mrgoodbytes | I search google and all i can find is something about iCANN TLD name collision or something. i don't know what they are talking about. |
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| 01:39.11 | mrgoodbytes | 127 is reserved but where did dr.foo and 127.0.53.53 come from and why the hell does it resolve with dr.foo |
| 01:39.24 | themill | I think some real output in a pastebin would make life easier here. I don't think anyone has a good picture of what you're actually doing or what you expect to see. |
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| 01:39.56 | mrgoodbytes | i have an image, hold on... |
| 01:39.57 | uniqdom | if i do a ping to dr.foo here in my lap... i get the same local ip address |
| 01:40.12 | mrgoodbytes | so what is it then? |
| 01:40.19 | uniqdom | don't know |
| 01:40.26 | uniqdom | never heard of it |
| 01:40.32 | mrgoodbytes | we being foo'ed by dr foo! |
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| 01:41.52 | mrgoodbytes | i'm going to have watch those old movies and find out who this dr foo is!!! |
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| 01:42.34 | uniqdom | i just remember a dr. falken |
| 01:42.38 | mrgoodbytes | do this, nslookup dr.foog |
| 01:42.40 | slurpymcdurpy | I wonder if he travels in a fartis. |
| 01:42.56 | mrgoodbytes | keyboard fuxored, nslookup dr.foo |
| 01:43.23 | mrgoodbytes | what you get? |
| 01:43.34 | mrgoodbytes | you on debian??? |
| 01:43.34 | uniqdom | Address: 127.0.53.53 |
| 01:43.43 | themill | mrgoodbytes: you do realise that .foo is a legitimate TLD, don't you? |
| 01:43.44 | mrgoodbytes | me to, why it do that? |
| 01:44.03 | raSter^ | what command does make debian alays updated guys? |
| 01:44.09 | mrgoodbytes | now it is, that's why that icann warning. but it resolving to localhost! |
| 01:44.10 | raSter^ | is it just apt-get update ? |
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| 01:44.34 | uniqdom | raSter^: & apt-get upgrade |
| 01:44.37 | themill | mrgoodbytes: no, it's resolving to the IP you specified. There's nothing wrong with that |
| 01:44.40 | mrgoodbytes | i'm updating |
| 01:45.03 | mrgoodbytes | who put this dr.foo in and where they put this? |
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| 01:45.14 | themill | mrgoodbytes: it's no different to foo.com |
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| 01:46.10 | mrgoodbytes | yes it is, foo.com is real site. dr.foo on my laptop takes me to localhost or my test web server on this laptop! |
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| 01:46.30 | epinky | mrgoodbytes: type nslookup anything.foo |
| 01:46.41 | themill | mrgoodbytes: things don't have to be running a web server to be perfectly legitimate dns responses. |
| 01:47.06 | mrgoodbytes | wait a min, dr.foo is only thing that works. no other foo's work! |
| 01:47.08 | themill | There are plenty of domains out there where if you do "nslookup localhost.example.net" it will tell you 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:47.40 | uniqdom | ok... I understand |
| 01:47.41 | uniqdom | lol |
| 01:47.42 | gzcwnk_ | anyone know how to get dovecot 2 to work on debian? I dont seem to have it listening on port 993 I think |
| 01:48.24 | mrgoodbytes | this is how i discover this. i seen .foo i now TLD. so I type in dr.foo and see, but it me! |
| 01:48.30 | themill | It's a geek joke courtesy of google. |
| 01:48.46 | mrgoodbytes | Then why it work in Firefox? |
| 01:48.54 | themill | why wouldn't it? |
| 01:48.55 | mrgoodbytes | google own all .foo? |
| 01:48.57 | themill | yes |
| 01:50.28 | epinky | mrgoodbytes: try nslookup mrgoodbytes.prod |
| 01:50.48 | epinky | :O |
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| 01:52.05 | mrgoodbytes | hold on.. |
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| 01:53.13 | mrgoodbytes | what that mean |
| 01:54.01 | mrgoodbytes | i'm telling ya, my host name debian and dr.foo resolve to localhost but dr.foo is 127.0.53.53 if it's private how could goole point to it? |
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| 01:54.28 | themill | mrgoodbytes: any dns server can return any IP for any name it likes |
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| 01:54.56 | mrgoodbytes | but it should not be looking up 127 on dns? |
| 01:55.32 | themill | it's not looking up anything |
| 01:55.49 | mrgoodbytes | i lookup whois dr.foo says not found. |
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| 01:57.03 | mrgoodbytes | so what i understand, .foo was for beta testing private and now it's a real TLD? |
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| 01:57.37 | themill | Not to my knowledge. |
| 01:57.52 | mrgoodbytes | along with .mail and all their other stupid names... |
| 01:57.55 | themill | I have no idea why google spent time and money registering it |
| 01:58.16 | mrgoodbytes | well whois on debian is broken, says dr.foo not found. |
| 01:58.27 | mrgoodbytes | debian whois no f good. |
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| 01:58.49 | themill | whois would need updating to cope with new registrations |
| 01:59.05 | mrgoodbytes | can i add those to a file so it works? |
| 01:59.08 | gzcwnk_ | anyone know how to make dovecot listen on port 993? |
| 01:59.28 | mrgoodbytes | gzcwnk, you have to setup ssl for that right? |
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| 01:59.52 | gzcwnk_ | as far as i know |
| 01:59.57 | gzcwnk_ | i did the certs |
| 02:00.10 | epinky | mrgoodbytes: http://generalnetworkerror.com/blog/google-prod-gtld-rears-its-head-and-screams-look-at-me.html |
| 02:00.26 | mrgoodbytes | prolly some config that tells it to run on 993 secure stuff. |
| 02:00.28 | gzcwnk_ | no matter what I do it ownt listen on any port |
| 02:00.51 | gzcwnk_ | docs seem sucky |
| 02:01.38 | gzcwnk_ | i have protocols set and yes to ssl and certs done |
| 02:01.54 | gzcwnk_ | im probably missing somethign obvious |
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| 02:02.08 | mrgoodbytes | epinky, so windstreams dns is broken? |
| 02:02.27 | mrgoodbytes | says needs immediate attention. |
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| 02:03.05 | blackjack | gzcwnk_ maybe you have the port block by your firewall? |
| 02:03.06 | epinky | mrgoodbytes: calm down, read carefully |
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| 02:06.07 | mrgoodbytes | why would google be allowed to point a legit tld or domain to a private delegated ip range? |
| 02:06.26 | themill | mrgoodbytes: any dns server can return any IP for any name it likes |
| 02:07.06 | mrgoodbytes | so we just accept it and use the free dr.foo as our test server so we don't have type in long hostname or ugly localhost? |
| 02:08.16 | themill | I wouldn't rely on that not changing. It's outside your control. And since when was "localhost" ugly? And if you wanted something short, why wouldn't you just pop it in your /etc/hosts? |
| 02:09.42 | mrgoodbytes | answer me this, when i typed in dr.foo to buy it on godaddy, it say not avaible, no .foo was available for sale, so how did google get control of .foo? |
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| 02:10.00 | themill | they registered it with icann |
| 02:10.43 | mrgoodbytes | i suspect, everytime i search and discover a very good short domain in those search forms on sites, they tell me it no good. Then THEY BUY IT! |
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| 02:12.13 | mrgoodbytes | they prolly have it all automated. the little guy doesn't have a chance of buying a short or cool domain name. |
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| 02:14.32 | mrgoodbytes | news for debian message, mail root. almost done... |
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| 02:16.35 | mrgoodbytes | whoever did this dr.foo at google needs ass kicked. stupid stupid shit. |
| 02:16.46 | themill | why? |
| 02:16.59 | mrgoodbytes | it just dumb |
| 02:17.05 | themill | how? |
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| 02:17.17 | mrgoodbytes | you waste a 2 letter domain in .foo on localhost? |
| 02:17.57 | themill | eh? |
| 02:18.22 | mrgoodbytes | have you tried testing it, turn off networking, clear dns cache, and ck dr.foo in browser? |
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| 02:19.01 | themill | Why would I do that? I know exactly what will happen. But what's "wasted" about it? It can be changed at any time they like to point to any other IP they want. |
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| 02:19.56 | themill | You have no idea why google went through the steps of creating the .foo TLD so I would recommend against extrapolating your desires against their business plan. |
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| 02:20.24 | mrgoodbytes | google created .foo? |
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| 02:25.18 | mrgoodbytes | registered domain dr.foo pointing to a private ip, geewiz. what got me off track is another user said it didn't work on his box and I thought it was just mine. |
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| 02:26.25 | mrgoodbytes | so, what other domains are currently pointed to 127 range beside hostname, localhost, and dr.foo? and how do i find out? |
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| 02:26.46 | mrgoodbytes | i know about hostname.invalid i think that is legit. |
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| 02:27.30 | mrgoodbytes | but what strange domains point to 127? |
| 02:27.48 | mrgoodbytes | i accidently found dr.foo but don't know how to find any others? |
| 02:28.18 | |xk05| | "Last year NASA announced it had switched laptops used for key functions on board the International Space Station from Windows XP to Debian 6. " |
| 02:28.37 | |xk05| | http://j.mp/1nU9CpS |
| 02:28.53 | mrgoodbytes | xk05 i though that thing was suppose to fall out the sky soon? |
| 02:29.00 | |xk05| | Greetings from Planet Earth |
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| 02:30.15 | |xk05| | mrgoodbytes, apparently at least the NASA underwriters are still perfecting their spreadsheets |
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| 02:31.09 | mrgoodbytes | i mean, i thought i read years ago that ol rust bucket was going to fall out of the sky any day. |
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| 02:32.00 | mrgoodbytes | and no more space shuttle to repair it and we basically let russia have all of it. |
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| 02:33.52 | mrgoodbytes | waste of money. even if they daily ships going to mars, you would have to be a millionaire to buy a ticket. does me and you no good, so fuk it. |
| 02:34.04 | |xk05| | are you kidding? what happens if suddenly Mars has a catastrophic natural disaster? we're back to low earth orbit for at least a decade. no reasonable planner could seriously consider abandoning Space Station, it's getting them the m*ney that's the problem |
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| 02:35.24 | mrgoodbytes | i would abandon all that space mess because the only thing we get out of it is some expensive pretty desktop wallpaper. i don't even use that. |
| 02:35.53 | |xk05| | when the gunboats from Andromeda show up...tell my mother im going to tell them we'll fight :D |
| 02:36.04 | mrgoodbytes | for the common man, wasting money on space just means more taxes. |
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| 02:36.36 | mrgoodbytes | and less money for food and other projects. |
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| 02:39.35 | mrgoodbytes | Before you do or support anything always ask yourself, how you going to make money off it? I never got a check or anything free from nasa. Totally worthless to me. |
| 02:40.19 | mrgoodbytes | I can't afford to ride the grey hound bus, much less travel to space. it's all foo. |
| 02:40.27 | |xk05| | eh, the defense argument for space exploration aside, we really havent tried very hard to convince people that Earth is trying to kill us, and the sooner humanity is properly mobilized, the safer we all will be. then we can talk about the Space Kraken |
| 02:41.53 | mrgoodbytes | i try not to think about things beyond my control. not good for the mental health. |
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| 02:42.31 | |xk05| | niether is confusing control and influence |
| 02:42.56 | mrgoodbytes | i don't have any influence over anyone. just my dog and cats. |
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| 02:43.39 | mrgoodbytes | kids old enough to take care of themselves. my dog and cats is all i worry about. |
| 02:44.28 | |xk05| | ah. some people join civics organizations |
| 02:44.39 | mrgoodbytes | oh, and strange domains that resolve to my notebook like dr.foo! |
| 02:45.10 | mrgoodbytes | i thought i been hacked. i searched google for "dr.foo" didn't find anything. |
| 02:45.49 | mrgoodbytes | plus the whois is broken and returned nothing so I was scratching my head. |
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| 02:46.42 | |xk05| | the internet is under new management, turns out Americans weren't willing to raise taxes to maintain control |
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| 02:47.56 | anonnumberanon | Is the NTFS standard proprietary? |
| 02:48.13 | mrgoodbytes | they been online so long and realized it's not worth wasting your life away online and decided to turn it loose on the world as a psychological weapon. |
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| 02:48.36 | anonnumberanon | formatted a disk under Debian in NTFS but under the Winblows operating system, 3 unwanted partitions had been created. |
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| 02:49.29 | mrgoodbytes | anon they probably already there from you using the usb to install linux. |
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| 02:49.49 | mrgoodbytes | some distros create several hidden read-only partitions. |
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| 02:51.41 | mrgoodbytes | in windows a program called BOOTiCE fix that USB flash drive partitions. |
| 02:51.57 | anonnumberanon | mrgoodbytes, no I got an etra HDD and just hooked it up to my motherboard |
| 02:52.19 | mrgoodbytes | hum... |
| 02:52.27 | |xk05| | i dont exactly know what to say about wasting my life online, i will say that for at least a little while, i /really was/ /on the frontier/ and maybe that's enough. now of course, there's alot of corporate between me and and the real frontier, and not enough years of my life left, most likely, for me to get the kind of education it takes to get far enough forward. but for one shining moment. we. were. it. i can live with that. |
| 02:52.39 | mrgoodbytes | some drives come with extras ;) |
| 02:53.15 | anonnumberanon | funny thing is under Linux it displayed as the whole disk as one partition |
| 02:53.27 | anonnumberanon | under Winblows, 4 partitions |
| 02:53.44 | anonnumberanon | some used, some just free space (so technically not partitions I guess) |
| 02:54.08 | mrgoodbytes | are they ntfs or something else? |
| 02:54.27 | anonnumberanon | I'm not sure mrgoodbytes . |
| 02:54.28 | mrgoodbytes | that makes more sense. |
| 02:54.58 | anonnumberanon | now I'll check if partitioned under Windows it is seen as full under Linux. |
| 02:55.04 | anonnumberanon | Meaning just one partition. |
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| 02:55.53 | mrgoodbytes | Everytime I get a usb drive, i wipe everything and create new partitions, but you best check to see what's on it first. |
| 02:56.29 | veek | anyone get QQ to work on wheezy |
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| 02:57.18 | mrgoodbytes | nobody know what QQ is, what is it? |
| 02:57.23 | anonnumberanon | I formatted it with Xfce's disk utility and then made it a one partition in NTFS |
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| 02:57.48 | veek | ymessenger in chinese with some horrid innovations or bugs |
| 02:58.32 | anonnumberanon | brb |
| 02:58.37 | mrgoodbytes | veek, no thanks then. i did not even use yahoo messenger when it was popular. |
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| 03:01.47 | mrgoodbytes | Jessie working good these days, when will it release? |
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| 03:03.51 | mrgoodbytes | hexchat now recommended over xchat? I see both are in repos. |
| 03:03.57 | Okee | Are backports immediately available after they are posted? I tried to download the latest libreoffice, which was added today, but it wouldn't update. Don't recall receiving an error. |
| 03:04.26 | Okee | myrgoodbytes> Why is hexchat recommended over XChat? The last time i tried it I found it just as buggy if not more so, but that was over 8 months ago. |
| 03:04.53 | mrgoodbytes | i use google docs. the kids at school now use google docs too. |
| 03:05.07 | Okee | The only problem that I have with xchat is that the default server isn't starting automatically, and one extra server tab. So I have to type /server irc.freenode.net |
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| 03:06.15 | mrgoodbytes | i don't know, someone recommended it. I see it's now a newer version than xchat. |
| 03:06.44 | mrgoodbytes | someone forked it because they wanted a free xchat for linux and windows. |
| 03:07.12 | mrgoodbytes | i think windows version of xchat (compiled version) is not free. |
| 03:07.13 | |xk05| | its possible that xchat will take a server uri as a command line argument, but i havent tried it |
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| 03:08.38 | themill | Okee: packages need to be compiled and then they need to copied into the archive. For a big package like libreoffice, that first step takes many hours even if there is no queue of packages. The second step will only happen on a cron job a couple of times per day |
| 03:09.19 | mrgoodbytes | i looked at smuxi, but it says dep -> suite::gnome |
| 03:09.35 | themill | mrgoodbytes: no it doesn't. |
| 03:10.00 | themill | Okee: the amd64 packages for libreoffice on wheezy-backports finished compiling 4 or 5 hours ago so will get included in the next install run and then get pushed out to mirrors soon after. |
| 03:10.03 | mrgoodbytes | oh i see, that just tags. |
| 03:10.21 | Okee | themill> Ok, that is what I thought. I will wait a few days. There are some bugs with the object bar chart. You can't copy the entire program to another file. And also, you loose all your settings when you exit. If you copy segments inside, that hold your data, place them in another spot, and delete the original spot, and reinsert them, then you get to keep your data settings, but you loose the ability to modify the data later on. |
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| 03:11.42 | |xk05| | yep. try "xchat --url=irc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#debian" on the command line or as the command to run in your shortcut or menu item or what have you |
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| 03:13.42 | mrgoodbytes | actually, the webchat at freenode works pretty darn good for a browser irc app. |
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| 03:16.53 | mrgoodbytes | snack time! wife bought some chips. later debians! |
| 03:20.10 | Okee | Does anyone know what the adobe flash package is called in Debian stable? |
| 03:20.34 | themill | Okee: for which browser? |
| 03:20.42 | Okee | chrome |
| 03:20.50 | themill | ,v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 03:20.51 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.4~bpo60+1; jessie/contrib: 1.5; sid/contrib: 1.6 |
| 03:21.03 | themill | oh.. chrome or chromium? |
| 03:21.09 | blackjack | what is the latest kernel version used by debian wheezy? |
| 03:21.17 | Okee | themill> Chrome |
| 03:21.37 | themill | Okee: that has flash built in already. You don't need a flash plugin. |
| 03:21.46 | Okee | themill> I quit using Chromium because the Google Talk Plugin doesn't work, but Chromium is a little faster than Chrome, and I like it a lot. |
| 03:22.29 | Okee | themill> I am getting an error message when viewing a greeting card on 123greetings.com, indicating that I need Adobe Flash Plugin. |
| 03:22.57 | themill | I believe the latest chrome has a broken flash plugin in any case |
| 03:23.04 | Okee | themill> Actually I misstated the problem, the error message indicates that Adobe Flash Player needs my permission to run. |
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| 03:23.21 | Okee | How do I change the permissions, so that Adobe Flash Player may run? |
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| 03:24.15 | Okee | If I could find a package on my system, I could change the permissions on that, but I think it is already built into Chrome, so not sure what to do. |
| 03:24.49 | Okee | judd> Is there an AMD64 version of the pepperflashplugin-nonfree? |
| 03:25.12 | themill | Okee: there is, but as I said, it's probably broken anyway and it is for chromium not for chrome. |
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| 03:26.35 | Okee | themill> Many of the extension in Chromium will work in Chrome. Chrome has a couple of video codecs, and properly runs the Google Talk Plugin, but other than that, there aren't a lot of differences between the browsers. Chromium is faster. |
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| 03:26.58 | themill | Not in this case. |
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| 03:29.53 | Okee | themill> I am installing it, and apparently it is in the repos, but I didn't find it when I did apt-cache search. However, the install looks strange, and I see these status messages going across my screen, indicating 14900k 31% 146k 3m48s, etc. |
| 03:30.16 | themill | yeah, you're wasting your time there... but feel free to ignore me. |
| 03:30.53 | Okee | themill> Why am I wasting my time? And there might be other browsers that need it no? |
| 03:30.57 | themill | All you're doing is downloading chrome again and copying the libpepflashplugin.so into a directory where chrome doesn't look for it. And the plugin that is being downloaded is broken in any case. |
| 03:31.12 | themill | Only chromium and chrome can use libpepflashplugin.so |
| 03:31.31 | Okee | themill> OK, so I use it in Chromium. |
| 03:31.45 | themill | Except it is broken in any case... |
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| 03:32.02 | Okee | themill> I thought you said the internal plugin in Chrome was broken? |
| 03:32.15 | themill | and that's what you're downloading right now |
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| 03:48.24 | resixian | how tough (possible) is it to move all users, groups, samba config and data from an old 32-bit wheezy into a new 64-bit machine? |
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| 03:49.20 | resixian | i am replacing old hardware and i'd rather update but i need to keep all the old user data and permissions intact |
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| 03:50.32 | resixian | is it as simple as copying passwd, group, gshadow etc ? |
| 03:50.48 | Okee | Is there anyone else who has a flash plugin? Adobe has become big, and clunky, and seems to break more of than not. I know on windows there is something called Sumatra, which is much faster than adobe reader for pdf. There has got to be an alternative to Adobe Flash. |
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| 03:52.17 | bit1 | Okee https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer |
| 03:52.21 | resixian | Okee: it's been forever since i've tried but there was one called gnash |
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| 03:52.59 | resixian | and lightspark |
| 03:53.41 | Okee | bitl> I just found a few others: http://alternativeto.net/software/flash-player/?platform=linux Anyone have experience with Lightspark? is it any good. Adobe has other web development tools that are decent, but there PDF editor, reader, and flash are no longer competitive, and I am looking to get rid of them. I want to use another vender. Is PepperFlashPlayer really adobe with a different name? |
| 03:54.19 | themill | Okee: pepperflash is adobe giving up on flash for linux and handing it over to google |
| 03:54.24 | bit1 | Okee, just read the page :) |
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| 03:56.58 | Okee | bitl> read what page? |
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| 03:57.49 | bit1 | Okee https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer it only works in Chrome |
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| 03:58.03 | Okee | bitl> It don't work. |
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| 03:58.27 | Okee | Lightspark is in the repos, and I just installed that. I will need a few minutos to test it out. |
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| 04:00.38 | epinky | Hello, I've used slapadd to restore an LDAP database, everything goes fine, it works few minutes and suddendly the service stops and I get "ldif_read_file: checksum error on "/etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config.ldif", I've asked for help in the openldap channel but they sent me here, because I'm using debian |
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| 04:01.43 | _FBi | because they didn't have an aswer ? :D |
| 04:01.47 | _FBi | answer even |
| 04:02.17 | epinky | _FBi: yes, I think so |
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| 04:02.31 | _FBi | hah. night night -- good luck |
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| 04:05.29 | Okee | Since I installed Lightspark, do I need to uninstall the Adobe Pepper thing? |
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| 04:37.52 | anonnumberanon | Where is the setting for adding an extra monitor? I am using Wheezy with Xfce. |
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| 04:38.52 | somiaj | you can use xrandr from teh command line, though I would assume xfce has a control pannel front end to that anonnumberanon |
| 04:39.02 | anonnumberanon | Right now my second monitor is black and shows a tiny non-blinking dash at top left. |
| 04:39.30 | somiaj | well type xrandr -q in a console, it will tell if it is connected or not |
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| 04:41.36 | anonnumberanon | No only one screen is seen, the main screen that is seen is connected to my GPU and the second screen is connected to my motherboard. |
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| 05:42.01 | Lewoco | Is 'dhclient' the default dhcp client on debian? |
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| 06:39.39 | wooy | hi, i had power failure and after reboot my hdd is showing up in /dev/sda but the single partition sda1 is not. cfdisk,mount gives me "read error", same for testdisk util while it tries to read/list partitions. /proc/partitions also list just the sda1. any idea how to proceed? |
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| 07:26.06 | r4co0n | Hello. Can I tell Rhythmbox to not delete stuff it can't access from its media library? Long Story: I got an external HDD plugged to my Debian Homeserver, contents served over LAN with Samba. I added a folder of the share to the Rhythmbox media library on my workstation. And i got a cat(the fluffy ones), which walks over the USB-Port every now and then, causing the HDD to get disconnected. If I now play anything from the external HDD with Rhythmbox, |
| 07:26.06 | r4co0n | it will delete all the inaccessible files from its library... Ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 07:27.14 | r4co0n | ..I can't patch the cat |
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| 07:28.56 | somiaj | r4co0n: is there a way to back up the libary and just reload it when you plug the drive back in. YOu may also want to look or ask rythembox specific support for that question too |
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| 07:32.56 | r4co0n | somiaj, I think I can backup ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml and copy it back next time stuff gets messed up |
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| 07:40.23 | r4co0n | just looked at rhythmdb.xml - it's huge and full of the same stuff over and over again.. sure, this way i can just copy out one track without caring about parent element's data, but a <location>-tag as parent of <entry> alone could cut down the size of the file by ~10%(made this up) |
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| 07:55.29 | bitgeek | trying to rip dvds, found tutorial using mencoder, but this has been removed from repos, so what should I be using? |
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| 07:56.36 | themill | bitgeek: avconv uses the same libraries (libav*) as mencoder used to |
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| 08:00.03 | bitgeek | themill: thanks, so should I also be using avplay instead of mplayer? |
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| 08:08.22 | r4co0n | somiaj, a guy in #rhythmbox@GIMPNet told me the program is supposed to hide inaccessible files. And indeed, after getting my HDD working again and restarting Rhythmbox, the songs are back.. Sry for the noise |
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| 08:19.10 | ridj222 | So, I just installed wheezy and I seem to be having an issue booting. Here's the occurrence of events: Turn on > Load the OS through Grub > Enter passphrase to pass encryption > Loads a black screen which says "Debian GNU/Linux 7 computer ttyl computer login:" > I enter login information > Basically just logs me in, but I'm still on this black screen. I figure there's some command I have to use now to get to the desktop? |
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| 08:19.40 | jawahertjm | hi |
| 08:20.02 | r4co0n | ridj222, how did you do the install? |
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| 08:20.43 | r4co0n | ridj222, it may be you installed a bare base system without a desktop environment |
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| 08:21.29 | ridj222 | Sounds like it. I used the net install package which was very small. I expected it to take awhile downloading everything, but it was pretty fast. |
| 08:21.58 | ridj222 | Is there a way to salvage this installation or do I have to start over? Erasing & encrypting the drive takes forever. |
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| 08:22.07 | Lildirt | Yeah, you can save it. |
| 08:22.14 | Lildirt | You just need to install xorg and a desktop environment. |
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| 08:22.22 | Lildirt | By default, Wheezy has GNOME. |
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| 08:22.39 | Lildirt | You'll want to look up specifics on how to install it on a barebones though, since blindly installing just the DE won't get you anywhere. |
| 08:22.52 | jawahertjm | <r4co0n> ridj222, how did you do the install? |
| 08:22.56 | Floris497 | good morning, how do i set up a .local adress with some kind of server or something? like my_machine.local? |
| 08:23.08 | Lildirt | but for the most part it should be just a few more packages to install. |
| 08:23.15 | jawahertjm | hi |
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| 08:27.15 | Floris497 | or does someone know what is the best way to give your local machine a domain name if the ip changes every day |
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| 08:28.57 | ridj222 | I just used the amd64 netinst and installed it with an encrypted LVM. I guess I must have have something checked or unchecked that should have been the other way around |
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| 08:29.53 | drybjed | hello. I have backported ruby2.1 packages and its dependencies (ruby, rubygems-integration) from Jessie to Wheezy, but rubygems-integration >= 1.8 is required, and 1.8~bpo76+1 seems to not fit the bill. is there a way to bypass that requirement? maybe don't add ~bpo76+1 to rubygems-integration, will that be safe to upgrade on transition from Wheezy to Jessie? |
| 08:30.30 | bdog7 | Floris497, you probably want a service like dyndns.org |
| 08:31.23 | rozie | Floris497: no-ip.com is free, but you need to click link send in email every month |
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| 08:32.30 | Floris497 | hey, someone awnsered me, and my irc craced before i could read it :s |
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| 08:32.38 | arcke | Floris497: couldnt you just check your provider host mask? |
| 08:32.49 | bdog7 | Floris497, you probably want a service like dyndns.org |
| 08:32.51 | Floris497 | how do you mean? |
| 08:33.06 | Floris497 | hm no i do not want dyndns |
| 08:33.23 | rozie | yes you do |
| 08:33.31 | Floris497 | there is not always internet on the network |
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| 08:33.35 | bdog7 | get a static ip |
| 08:33.36 | rozie | or elaborate what do you exactly want to achieve |
| 08:33.44 | arcke | maybe your host mask is static and your ip changes |
| 08:33.45 | Floris497 | that is prohibbeted |
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| 08:34.45 | rozie | Floris497: you want machine in local network to be reachable by domain name (from this network)? |
| 08:34.56 | Floris497 | oke i had it set up some time, but what is bad about using a .local adress? |
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| 08:35.11 | Floris497 | just only on the network it seld |
| 08:35.22 | Floris497 | *on the same network |
| 08:35.44 | rozie | Floris497: do you control DHCP server? |
| 08:36.37 | Floris497 | rozie: no i don’t, but there is some standart reply thing where someone askes who is machine.local and that machine responds with yes that is me my ip is this |
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| 08:37.17 | ridj222 | Is there a way I can install xorg the desktop environment without connecting to the Internet via the particular computer I'm installing it on? So, like can I download these things to a USB drive on another computer and then transfer them over to the one I'm installing Debian on? |
| 08:37.21 | arcke | standard reply thing? isnt that DHCP? |
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| 08:37.55 | rozie | he is probably talking about this windows domain thing... |
| 08:38.12 | Floris497 | rozie: i have never had a windows :p |
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| 08:38.44 | arcke | Floris497: how do you get/set an IP address? |
| 08:39.04 | rozie | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local |
| 08:39.06 | Floris497 | it gets the ip from the dhcp server |
| 08:39.25 | Floris497 | mdns that was the thing |
| 08:39.46 | rozie | I'd just use dyndns and some domain and update it with local IP |
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| 08:40.40 | Floris497 | rozie: hm na, can you explain why it is better? |
| 08:41.04 | rozie | because it will always work (as it uses global DNS system) |
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| 08:41.38 | rozie | (not sure if all dyndns allow resolving to local IP) |
| 08:41.57 | arcke | ive used dyndns in the past and had a periodically changing semi-static ip |
| 08:42.12 | rozie | and .local... it may work on some machines, and don't work on the other |
| 08:42.14 | arcke | its very easy to update when things are not static |
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| 08:42.47 | rozie | arcke: but we want to resolve to private IP, not public (external for NAT one) |
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| 08:45.33 | Floris497 | hm thanks for the explanation :) i think i will stick to my mDNS solution |
| 08:46.26 | arcke | if i wanted local names i would keep a shared hosts file around my networked machines, could this be of any use? |
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| 08:47.55 | Floris497 | arcke: i have no idea, but i found a great article about it :) |
| 08:48.50 | arcke | dont forget to check the man page - man 5 hosts |
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| 09:03.39 | MY123 | I got my UEFI system into monitor mode. How to enroll new keys? |
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| 09:03.58 | MY123 | (did buy a new PC) |
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| 09:06.07 | wishooooo | Just burned a DVD with debian-7.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso to install. When trying to boot, I just get a blinking _. ? |
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| 09:07.51 | r4co0n | wishooooo, have you ensured your BIOS tries to boot from your DVD drive? |
| 09:07.57 | wishooooo | Yes |
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| 09:08.36 | r4co0n | wishooooo, please check if the md5sum of the image you downloaded is correct |
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| 09:09.16 | r4co0n | wishooooo, can you try another bootable optical disk to ensure booting from CD is working at all? |
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| 09:14.49 | wishooooo | It may not be. Says "no bootable devices." |
| 09:15.35 | MY123 | wishooooo: UEFI or BIOS? |
| 09:15.46 | MY123 | (if UEFI, enable CSM) |
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| 09:15.56 | wishooooo | BIOA |
| 09:15.58 | wishooooo | BIOS |
| 09:16.23 | arcke | wishooooo: x86(-64)? |
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| 09:17.05 | wishooooo | Yes, x86. |
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| 09:17.51 | arcke | right, its the amd64 iso |
| 09:18.16 | arcke | is your machine 64 bit also? |
| 09:18.56 | wishooooo | Yes, it's 64 bit. |
| 09:19.36 | wishooooo | Oh wait |
| 09:19.44 | wishooooo | So it's not x86 |
| 09:20.07 | arcke | yes it is, amd64 = x86-64 |
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| 09:20.37 | wishooooo | x64 means 64-bit architecture. x86 means 32-bit architecture. Right? |
| 09:20.53 | arcke | cant imagine this, but does the BIOS actually support boot from CD |
| 09:20.54 | MY123 | wishooooo: Yes. |
| 09:21.20 | wishooooo | I don't see why it wouldn't. The specific computer is a Dell M6500 |
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| 09:22.02 | arcke | wishooooo: what board/cpu do you have? |
| 09:22.59 | arcke | could be an issue with an old bios version |
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| 09:25.30 | wishooooo | CPU is is an i7 x920. Not sure about the motherboard, I'd have to check. |
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| 09:27.05 | arcke | wishooooo: as a last resort, do you have USB and can you boot from it? |
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| 09:30.51 | arcke | actually, isnt it confusing that the amd64 port supports intel64 |
| 09:31.46 | babilen | Isn't it similarly confusing that i386 runs on AMD? |
| 09:31.51 | babilen | dpkg: tell arcke -about why amd64 |
| 09:33.21 | wishooooo | Yes. I have a bit of an issue with that, though. Only 1 of my USB ports seems to be working. During the installation phrase, I know I need to insert a USB in order to install some non-free firmware. However, that's occupied when booting from a USB, so I figured that if I could boot from a DVD I would still have a free USB slot in order to install the firmware. |
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| 09:34.41 | arcke | wishooooo: integrate the firmware with the installer on a single USB, see if there is space for it |
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| 09:36.10 | wishooooo | I've tried that, but I don't think I am doing it correctly. I was putting the firmware files in the non-free firmware folder on the USB. I figure there is a correct way to do it, but I am new to this so... |
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| 09:37.45 | arcke | during the installation, iirc you can load firmware from a location on disk |
| 09:38.00 | babilen | wishooooo: Which image are you installing from? |
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| 09:38.25 | wishooooo | debian-7.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
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| 09:39.32 | babilen | wishooooo: Okay, if you write that to your USB stick you will have a second partition on there without a filesystem. You will have to create a filesystem (e.g. vfat) on there and then *unpack* the firmware.{zip,tar.gz} file there. Are you writing on Windows or Linux? |
| 09:39.53 | wishooooo | Windows |
| 09:39.58 | babilen | fwiw, there is a netinst image with firmware already |
| 09:40.01 | babilen | dpkg: firmware image |
| 09:40.01 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 09:42.22 | babilen | wishooooo: Okay, please use https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer to write the image. Then download the firmware.zip from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ and create a filesystem on the second partition on your USB stick. (not sure how that is done on Windows). Finally unpack the firmware.zip file on that second partition. The installer might still ask you to provide firmware and you can safely ... |
| 09:42.28 | babilen | ... skip that step. |
| 09:42.45 | babilen | (or you could just use the firmware netinstall image if you have a working internet connection during the installation) |
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| 09:44.33 | wishooooo | I don't have a working connection during installation. I will follow what you said regarding the partitioning of the USB drive and report back. |
| 09:44.47 | wishooooo | Thanks |
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| 10:01.19 | arcke | according to the documentation this a type of package found in contrib: "free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages which are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution". are packages which require non-free third party packages for execution going to execute non-free code on the users system? |
| 10:01.58 | arcke | secondly, are these packages going to be installed if a user has not enabled non-free in his sources |
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| 10:11.41 | newbieAlert | hi is there any way to know which process is not responsding or is lagging ??? |
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| 10:14.40 | arcke | rephrasing my earlier question to whats really important, does adding contrib and excluding non-free from sources.list constitute the risk of getting trojaned by non-free software? |
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| 10:22.41 | arcke | '"contrib": This directory contains packages which are freely distributable, but do not meet the policy requirements for distribution by the Debian project for some reason, e.g., the packages have some unusual restriction on modification by other users, or are only available in binary form. For such packages, the project cannot given the user any means to assure that they are free of Trojan horses, and cannot port them to other architectures. |
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| 10:24.52 | arcke | to me it would seem, if non-free is not in the sources a contrib package requiring a non-free package could not be installed, this there would be no risk of execution of non-free code |
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| 11:11.11 | Z1T1TTT | I'd like to partition hdd |
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| 11:13.39 | yids | im still struggling to compule xombrero, the problem seems to be that pkg-config uses a $prefix that is no valid |
| 11:13.50 | yids | but where does it get this $prefix value from ? |
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| 11:14.03 | yids | in the pc file its just $prefix |
| 11:14.12 | RoyK | is snmpwalk in wheezy supposed to support ipv6? |
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| 11:14.16 | yids | and it is not set in my shell to be anything |
| 11:14.30 | Z1T1TTT | I'd like to partition hdd, but GParted fails on me. Can someone help me do it manually? |
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| 11:15.26 | yids | actually, in the pc file it says prefix=/usr |
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| 11:15.57 | yids | but when i strace pkg-config I see that the prefix is "/home/slomo/blabla/bullshit" |
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| 11:19.55 | yids | oh okay i gues i found it |
| 11:19.59 | yids | slomo is just an asshole |
| 11:20.00 | yids | :P |
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| 11:21.42 | berarma | hi, please, do you know a way to permanently ignore ext4 permissions on usb pens? |
| 11:22.02 | r4co0n | Z1T1TTT, what did you try and where did it fail? Please be verbose |
| 11:22.16 | Z1T1TTT | r4co0n: http://picpaste.com/screenshot_2014-09-14_13_16_19-baDWvqMz.png |
| 11:22.31 | Z1T1TTT | r4co0n: this is how gparted fails on me |
| 11:22.40 | arcke | berarma: https://superuser.com/questions/175987/how-can-i-automatically-set-write-permissions-on-mounting-a-usb-drive-in-linux |
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| 11:30.44 | Thompson | Is DWM easy to use |
| 11:30.56 | berarma | sorry, I got disconnected |
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| 11:33.27 | Z1T1TTT | can I get help with partitioning? |
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| 11:39.33 | RoyK | Z1T1TTT: first of all, save details from there |
| 11:40.52 | RoyK | Z1T1TTT: looks like you're trying to change the partitioning on sda - not a good idea, since I guess your OS lives there |
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| 11:42.39 | r4co0n | Z1T1TTT, we need the details... |
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| 12:14.24 | hypermist | is there anything you can get on debian that can auto replace a whole bunch of stuff at once ? that is text |
| 12:14.43 | babilen | sed comes to mind |
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| 12:19.45 | popallamsimbi | hi, i am running al laptop with debian wheezy on an crypted lvm. i get I/O errors very frequent. so i have to boot a live system and perform fsck on the crypred drive to make it run again. is this normal? |
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| 12:20.38 | popallamsimbi | i have an ssd |
| 12:21.00 | Guest93883 | How do I install DWM |
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| 12:24.29 | rundll32 | Babilen: can you answer me a debian related question? |
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| 12:25.12 | tsam_ | rundll32: I think a lot of people here are able to answer such questions. Just ask and wait. |
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| 12:26.09 | babilen | Guest93883: http://dwm.suckless.org/ (just compile it, also #suckless on freenode) |
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| 12:27.13 | babilen | Guest93883: Though "Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it’s pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions. " might be something you like to keep in mind. |
| 12:27.35 | rundll32 | Babilen: it is not directly related to debian can you answer my question? |
| 12:29.42 | babilen | rundll32: How could I possibly know if I can answer a question that has not yet been asked? Seriously, think about it! I also second tsam_'s comment. |
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| 12:30.22 | rundll32 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:30.57 | rundll32 | About !suse |
| 12:31.04 | rundll32 | !suse |
| 12:31.04 | dpkg | [suse] a linux distribution that can be found at http://www.suse.com, or german, open source, *nix. . . you do the math. the root of all that is wrong and evil, or #suse on irc.freenode.net, or see http://www.omahns-home.co.uk/downloads/sles9.png See also <opensuse>. |
| 12:31.07 | babilen | That really has nothing to do with Debian and is not on-topic in this channel. You might want to try ##linux, #suse or #xen. |
| 12:31.43 | RoyK | popallamsimbi: it's quite normal to get I/O errors if the drive is faulty - make sure you have a good backup ;) |
| 12:32.22 | hypermist | may i ask how to use sed or anything |
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| 12:32.59 | RoyK | hypermist: sed or perl or python or something - perl was designed for that use - sed has a more reduced regex set AFAIK |
| 12:33.09 | RoyK | python uses perl regex, which is very good at that |
| 12:33.25 | hypermist | cause i need to replace the name dogecoin with mistcoin in a bunch of files but idk how haha |
| 12:33.29 | RoyK | hypermist: it all depends what you're trying to change, how complex etc. sed is good for small things |
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| 12:34.04 | popallamsimbi | yes, but it happens multiple times a day, is that also normal? because it makes it impossible to work on that machine. or may be my configuration the problem? |
| 12:34.20 | RoyK | popallamsimbi: I/O errors are hardware errors |
| 12:34.32 | RoyK | popallamsimbi: pastebin some of them |
| 12:34.33 | RoyK | !pastebin |
| 12:34.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 12:34.36 | hypermist | RoyK, cause i need to replace the name dogecoin with mistcoin in a bunch of files but idk how haha |
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| 12:35.09 | RoyK | hypermist: perl -ne 's/dogecoin/mistcoin/g' -i filename |
| 12:35.13 | RoyK | hypermist: should do it |
| 12:35.20 | hypermist | okay |
| 12:35.25 | RoyK | I think... try |
| 12:36.20 | RoyK | hypermist: just take a backup of the files before you start ;) |
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| 12:36.39 | hypermist | lol i better RoyK :D |
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| 12:38.09 | RoyK | hypermist: learning regex will take some time, but it's very nice for modifying text |
| 12:38.26 | RoyK | !perl |
| 12:38.26 | dpkg | Perl (backronymed as Practical Extraction and Report Language and Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister) is an interpreted, high-level, dynamic programming language. http://learn.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/ #perl on irc.freenode.net. See also <dh-make-perl>. |
| 12:38.55 | hypermist | im making my own cryptocurrency/altcoin :D |
| 12:39.03 | RoyK | I'd suggest learning python over perl, though |
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| 12:40.02 | RoyK | which isn't because I really *like* python, I like perl, but python has grown vastly more popular and is easier to learn |
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| 12:41.06 | gerforce | !perl |
| 12:41.06 | dpkg | Perl (backronymed as Practical Extraction and Report Language and Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister) is an interpreted, high-level, dynamic programming language. http://learn.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/ #perl on irc.freenode.net. See also <dh-make-perl>. |
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| 12:52.43 | hypermist | RoyK, is their any software than can scan for the word dogecoin ? |
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| 12:53.19 | RoyK | hypermist: the easiest is grep |
| 12:53.34 | popallamsimbi | i cant find the error messages he shows me whan that errors happen in the /var/log files ho shwos me these errors in the console when i hit ctrl+alt fX: they look like journal commit I/O error or end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 9832748132 |
| 12:53.35 | RoyK | grep whattosearchfor file1 file2 asdsdasdf |
| 12:53.36 | hypermist | how does one use that haha ? |
| 12:53.47 | hypermist | okay |
| 12:53.56 | hypermist | problem is i don't know what files to look in haha |
| 12:54.09 | RoyK | hypermist: grep -r whattosearchfor /some/dir |
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| 12:54.25 | dubiun | hey guys |
| 12:54.30 | dubiun | I've got a question about time |
| 12:54.39 | RoyK | time is relative |
| 12:54.40 | dubiun | I've my debian set to local time |
| 12:54.44 | hypermist | ty RoyK |
| 12:54.53 | dubiun | RoyK: yep, it's relatively wrong in my pc :P |
| 12:54.58 | hypermist | yes you probably wondering why im asking so much its cause im new to debian haha |
| 12:55.04 | babilen | hypermist: You might want to read some generic linux command line tutorial and then through documentation regarding grep, sed and other commonly used tools. |
| 12:55.05 | dubiun | ahah |
| 12:55.31 | RoyK | dubiun: install ntp |
| 12:56.07 | dubiun | so, my pc is in local time, I've the hwclock set to UTC and the time is correct, the problem is that the local time, for some unknown reason says that it's the same as utc o.O |
| 12:56.23 | pessoa | awk is even more powerful than grep and sed |
| 12:56.23 | dubiun | RoyK: I've already installed it but the option to use it is greyed out, |
| 12:56.27 | RoyK | hypermist: everyone is new to linux at some time. google linux introduction or something - there's lots to learn :) |
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| 12:56.55 | RoyK | dubiun: huh - things aren't greyed out in the commandline ;) |
| 12:57.08 | dubiun | I've tried many things, including changing time and copy local time to hw time, nothing seems working when I reboot |
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| 12:57.18 | dubiun | RoyK: that's for sure :) |
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| 12:57.30 | dubiun | RoyK: I was speaking about KDE, so ok, one solution could be that |
| 12:57.33 | sandman13 | is there any difference between Debian Stable and Debian Testing interms of programming? Android App Development to be specific. |
| 12:57.46 | dubiun | but more than anything I'd like to know why it is not working as it should |
| 12:57.49 | hypermist | how to search the main dir so its grep dogecoin mistcoin/ thats all i want to search |
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| 12:58.35 | RoyK | dubiun: I don't use graphical stuff for that sort of things - sorry - can't help |
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| 12:58.59 | dubiun | RoyK: ok, but what about console stuff without ntp |
| 12:59.02 | dubiun | ? :D |
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| 13:00.16 | RoyK | dubiun: google "install ntp debian" or something - you'll learn a lot more if I don't give you that one-liner ;) |
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| 13:00.48 | dubiun | RoyK: I wasn't speaking about ntp, anyway you're right thanks for the hints :) |
| 13:01.05 | hypermist | RoyK, how to just search 1 dir so mistcoin thats all i want to search which is the main dir lol |
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| 13:02.23 | RedDeath | Back |
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| 13:03.09 | fstd | hypermist: learn how to use grep |
| 13:03.13 | RedDeath | Back |
| 13:03.24 | hypermist | GOOGLES C: |
| 13:03.24 | babilen | RedDeath: Please turn that off, ta! |
| 13:03.34 | fstd | hypermist: there's a man page on it, too |
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| 13:05.46 | fstd | RedDeath: thanks. everyone cares. please, keep us posted. |
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| 13:18.43 | hypermist | i have not managed to find what im looking for, for grep |
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| 13:21.25 | RoyK | hypermist: man grep? |
| 13:22.16 | RoyK | hypermist: weren't you just looking for a single word or string? if so, grep -r 'mystring' /my/path should do it |
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| 13:24.29 | hypermist | will try that RoyK |
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| 13:25.42 | hypermist | okay that detected it all |
| 13:26.25 | hypermist | thing is now i have to replace everyfile with the dogecoin in it to mistcoin |
| 13:26.26 | RoyK | hypermist: also, read the manual, manpages are sometimes hard to get started with, since they are somehow written by people who knows the technical parts, but don't care much about pedagogy |
| 13:26.26 | hypermist | xD |
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| 13:26.44 | RoyK | hypermist: are they all in the same dir_ |
| 13:26.45 | RoyK | ? |
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| 13:27.20 | hypermist | they are in dirs like mistcoin/src |
| 13:27.21 | hypermist | ,etc |
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| 13:27.43 | hypermist | cause also inside the files after i renamed them to dogecoin i have to rename the inside lol |
| 13:27.48 | hypermist | mistcoin* |
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| 13:30.09 | hypermist | Okay i g2g |
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| 13:35.06 | belowzero | Hi, Im experimenting strange things on my computer. random applications suddenly crash xorg, java, iceweasel ++ |
| 13:35.35 | RoyK | belowzero: pastebin output of 'dmesg' and 'free' |
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| 13:40.02 | belowzero | free: http://pastebin.com/CJAF2PZk |
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| 13:40.17 | belowzero | the interesting stuff from dmesg: http://pastebin.com/ND3hMyGs |
| 13:40.23 | belowzero | RoyK: ^ |
| 13:41.18 | RoyK | belowzero: try to pastebin the whole of dmesg output - not just the last line |
| 13:41.22 | RoyK | !pastebinit | belowzero |
| 13:41.28 | RoyK | !pastebinit |
| 13:41.29 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 13:42.04 | RoyK | belowzero: also, add some swap to that system - it's not likely you'll need it, but when you do, it'll make the system live a wee bit longer |
| 13:42.56 | belowzero | RoyK: on swap, I had it but the disk died on me, sometimes I just swapon a file or something when needed |
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| 13:43.16 | belowzero | using pastebinit :) its great |
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| 13:43.38 | RoyK | belowzero: just use a 4-8GB swapfile somewhere - you never know when you need it |
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| 13:44.24 | belowzero | RoyK: http://pastebin.com/C04PQ8vb Here is the whole dmesg, but just rebooted after the last crash. |
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| 13:44.58 | Nectur | How can i port a ubuntu package to debian? |
| 13:45.02 | belowzero | so no crash yet, not running much yet, started up iceweasel |
| 13:45.22 | Nik05 | Nectur which package? |
| 13:45.39 | RoyK | belowzero: check /var/log/syslog for those messages you got - dmesg is reset by reboot |
| 13:45.50 | Nectur | a few kwin dependencies that exist only for ubuntu |
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| 13:46.04 | RoyK | belowzero: also, don't reboot if you get such a problem and want to troubleshoot it :P |
| 13:46.16 | Nectur | kde-window-manager-active for example |
| 13:47.19 | Nectur | maybe building from src and go over all the dependencies one by one? |
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| 13:47.33 | belowzero | RoyK: the dmesg is probably almost identical until crash suddenly happens. and it looks like the paste I sent. Applications differ. |
| 13:48.08 | RoyK | belowzero: look in that log file - there should be something there unless the system remounted the root read-only |
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| 13:50.32 | Nectur | guess, I'm asking for the impossible again >.> |
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| 13:54.38 | belowzero | RoyK: nothing in my /var/log/syslog, system has not written anything there for a while |
| 13:55.01 | RoyK | belowzero: what about /var/log/syslog.1 ? |
| 13:55.13 | RoyK | or /var/log/kern.log |
| 13:55.14 | RoyK | or /var/log/kern.log.1 |
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| 14:01.24 | belowzero | RoyK: seems like I have disabled logging :) nothing in there after 26th of July |
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| 14:03.30 | RoyK | belowzero: uh - disabling logging is *bad* |
| 14:03.40 | RoyK | belowzero: check /etc/rsyslog.conf |
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| 14:16.33 | sebastia1 | Does debian booting allow me to "reinstall" as ubuntu does. In such a way it wont touch my windows 8 partition? |
| 14:17.13 | sebastia1 | Im currently using mint 17 on another partition. |
| 14:17.46 | cra1g321 | im near sure i read about ubuntu's reinstall option wiping the whole drive |
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| 14:21.30 | Blokker | could you clarify that question? booting and reinstall don't really add up to me |
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| 14:21.40 | shingouz | sebastia1: if you go expert and do the partitioning manually, it should be possible. if you ask how mint does things, we do not have any idea, ask in #mint (or whatever their channel is) |
| 14:22.24 | sebastia1 | Well it didn't for me. I wiped out whole drive and installed win 8 and lost my debian. Then i installed ubuntu with the dualboot option, because i had no ethernet cable and silly debian installer couldn't find my iwlwifi driver by default. Then i installed mint during the reinstall-option which is similar to ubuntu's. That saved my windows 8.1 partition. |
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| 14:23.06 | sebastia1 | Now im just curious if reinstalling debian, but as dualboot will be too complicated |
| 14:23.20 | sebastia1 | in order to save win 8.1 |
| 14:23.29 | Dixi__ | whats the most common error for smokeping slaves not populating graphs on the master? |
| 14:23.41 | Blokker | unless you tell the debian installer to use your entire drive, it will not wipe your windows partition |
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| 14:24.51 | sebastia1 | okay thanks |
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| 14:27.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell sebastia1 -about firmware image |
| 14:27.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell sebastia1 -about installer firmware |
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| 14:28.02 | babilen | sebastia1: This has nothing to do with "stupid" and you simply forgot that Debian installers don't come with the firmware that you need to make use of your wifi card. Supply it and you can use it. |
| 14:29.08 | babilen | "stupid" generally doesn't apply in the technical context and I'd recommend to simply refrain from using it as it implies a certain intention on the part of the developers that was simply never present |
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| 14:29.51 | cra1g321 | but blaming the computer is a lot easier than learning how to resolve the issue :P |
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| 14:32.25 | sebastia1 | if you are refering to "silly debian installer" i was ironic. This is the main reason why i want debian and not ubuntu :-) |
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| 14:52.43 | jrm2k6 | Hi guys, I just tried to install debian from a USB stick, it told me that everythign seem to be successful but I have a nice blinking cursor when booting |
| 14:52.50 | jrm2k6 | any idea how to proceed? |
| 14:53.23 | sleenk | jrm2k6: post install? |
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| 14:53.50 | jrm2k6 | sleenk: wdym? yes on the first reboot after install |
| 14:53.54 | dvs | jrm2k6: how did you get it on the USB stick |
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| 14:54.12 | jrm2k6 | using Unetbootin |
| 14:54.21 | dvs | sighs |
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| 14:54.27 | jrm2k6 | :( |
| 14:54.46 | dvs | !unetbootin |
| 14:54.47 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 14:55.01 | sleenk | jrm2k6: were you able to boot off of the USB stick, install debian, then reboot, then you get the blinking cursor? |
| 14:55.17 | teraflops | lol cruel ways ... |
| 14:55.19 | jrm2k6 | dvs: oopsie. |
| 14:55.40 | jrm2k6 | sleenk: yes, i check the whole install and everything seemed fine, but i guess UNetbootin was not the right way to do. |
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| 14:56.02 | sleenk | jrm2k6: my guess is that when it went to install the boot loader that something went wrong |
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| 14:56.18 | sleenk | jrm2k6: do you have multiple drives in the computer? |
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| 14:56.32 | jrm2k6 | sleenk: yes i do. |
| 14:56.48 | jrm2k6 | I check the boot order parameter |
| 14:56.52 | jrm2k6 | already |
| 14:56.54 | sleenk | jrm2k6: you could try going into the BIOS, change the boot order around (make sure the drive you installed onto is the primary), in case it installed only on that drive |
| 14:57.00 | sleenk | already ahead of me i see |
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| 14:57.42 | sebastia1 | not that im an expert, jrm2k6. But i have experienced the same when installing ubuntu gnome. I just had to switch my resolution a few times. |
| 14:57.55 | sleenk | jrm2k6: another thing you can try, is making sure the boot order has the primary drive try first, in case grub installed onto that drive instead of the actual drive you installed onto |
| 14:58.05 | jrm2k6 | sebastia1: your resolution? so it was a graphic issue? |
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| 14:58.16 | sebastia1 | Yes |
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| 14:58.28 | jrm2k6 | sleenk: I can just try to do that yes |
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| 14:58.54 | paxcoder | Hey, a few weeks ago, after an update (testing distro), the users were rendered unable to mount external devices. They're still in the plugdev group, and I tried installing pmount and it works. So what's causing this inability to mount in a file manager? |
| 14:59.11 | sleenk | jrm2k6: alternatively, you could load rescue mode via the USB stick and try reinstalling grub |
| 14:59.13 | Blokker | it would surprise me that a resolution problem prevents actual booting since you can't really set much graphics options while booting. The only thing you can have is an out of range, but since he keeps a signal to his monitor that is not the case |
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| 15:00.01 | sleenk | Blokker: i agree, until it gets to the framebuffer part, or loading of X, it should still boot |
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| 15:00.05 | jrm2k6 | sleenk: oh yes i havent thought about that |
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| 15:00.12 | jrm2k6 | i will do that after trying to play with the boot order |
| 15:00.20 | jrm2k6 | sebastia1: how did you change your resolution? |
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| 15:00.37 | sleenk | jrm2k6: good luck. i'm going afk now |
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| 15:01.23 | sebastia1 | Didn't you say the installation was sucessful, and you problem was the mouse flickering? |
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| 15:01.38 | paxcoder | May I divert your attention to my problem please? :) |
| 15:01.46 | Blokker | no, a blinking cursor on the top left |
| 15:02.29 | sebastia1 | Oh sorry then. |
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| 15:04.09 | Blokker | to me it "simply" sounds like a missing or badly configured boot loader |
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| 15:05.56 | slbtc | can someone help me? I'm having issues with debian repos when I sudo apt-get update it comes out with errors |
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| 15:07.00 | slbtc | https://dpaste.de/HEoY <--- my repo list am I missing something? |
| 15:07.16 | zh1 | what flash player should i install in chromium on debian wheezy? |
| 15:07.47 | paxcoder | Can't find nothing via Google: Any reason why a file manager would report being unable to mount a device that can be mounted with pmount (the user is in the plugdev group). |
| 15:07.52 | paxcoder | *? |
| 15:07.53 | slbtc | zhl: pepper flash it was built for chromium |
| 15:08.21 | slbtc | regular flash is no longer supported by chromium |
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| 15:11.08 | Blokker | slbtc, you do have an error, line 5 is wrong |
| 15:11.26 | Blokker | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 15:11.36 | blackjack | guys how to i verify my version of flash player installed on iceweasel? |
| 15:11.38 | Blokker | that's what it should read |
| 15:11.39 | slbtc | Blokker, ah I'll try that |
| 15:11.51 | paxcoder | :( |
| 15:11.56 | zh1 | blackjack, chrome://version |
| 15:12.07 | zh1 | ah sorry |
| 15:13.01 | blackjack | i mean, using dpkg or apt |
| 15:13.36 | Blokker | what flash player do you use? |
| 15:13.54 | blackjack | it says |
| 15:13.55 | blackjack | You have version 11,2,202,280 installed |
| 15:14.06 | blackjack | 11.2.202.280 |
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| 15:14.50 | dawis | jelly you there? |
| 15:15.13 | paxcoder | This was my solution: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=504503&sid=dd0f6db3ad2365ae18cd01c7dcb1b315#p504503 |
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| 15:16.42 | paxcoder | I don't know what that really means, or rather, why it's necessary to do it (after an update), but the issue is now fixed. |
| 15:16.54 | zh1 | blackjack, its About:plugins |
| 15:17.05 | Blokker | blackjack, and when you say verify, do you mean the file integrity? |
| 15:17.12 | dawis | why are my linux saying: Linux debianserver 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 |
| 15:17.17 | Blokker | or that it was installed correctly? |
| 15:17.22 | dawis | i am not using KDE so why it saying PAE? |
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| 15:17.35 | dawis | i removed and purge KDE |
| 15:17.35 | jrm2k6 | it seems that i have a grub issue. I am not able to find /grub/stage1 or /boot/grub/stage1 when in recovery mode |
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| 15:17.40 | dawis | but it still says PAE? |
| 15:17.40 | Blokker | pae: physical address extention |
| 15:17.44 | valdyn | dawis: what does pae have to do with pae? |
| 15:17.47 | valdyn | dawis: what does pae have to do with kde ? |
| 15:17.48 | jrm2k6 | and grub-install doesnt seem to do anything |
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| 15:18.12 | dawis | Blokker: what is physical address extension mean? |
| 15:18.19 | blackjack | Blokker: i want to update from my current version. Is there a newer update or am i already using the newest current version for debian? |
| 15:18.21 | dawis | valdyn: what is PAE using for? |
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| 15:18.55 | dawis | Can I remove PAE somehow? |
| 15:19.03 | valdyn | dawis: what blokker said, its a mechanism to support more RAM on i386 |
| 15:19.06 | Blokker | dawis, it's a technology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension |
| 15:19.15 | valdyn | dawis: no, you should keep it most likely |
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| 15:19.58 | dawis | valdyn Blokker: ok thanks |
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| 15:20.34 | Blokker | blackjack, if you installed it trough the repository with apt-get/aptitude, any update should simply be made available to you when you update your system |
| 15:20.40 | dawis | as my server booting. it shows a console and ask me to login as user i have been added |
| 15:20.43 | dawis | is this default? |
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| 15:21.08 | dawis | should it not boot as root ? |
| 15:21.15 | Blokker | dawis: no |
| 15:21.24 | dawis | Blokker: okay |
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| 15:21.43 | blackjack | ok Blokker. |
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| 15:22.11 | blackjack | Blokker: i just wanted to confirm that the version im using is current? How do i do that? |
| 15:22.19 | slbtc | Blokker: it still says failed to fetch on all repos when I update |
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| 15:23.02 | Blokker | slbtc, that sounds more like a different problem, because they all resolve fine to me. Is that machine connected to the internet (i guess so) and does it resolve domain names? |
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| 15:24.01 | slbtc | Blokker: I'll show you what I'm doing I'm following a vid in order to dual boot debian and windows 8.1 and it requires to use debian repos in ubuntu |
| 15:24.19 | Blokker | what the ... |
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| 15:24.40 | slbtc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 |
| 15:24.45 | Blokker | dual booting debian and windows is a matter of installing windows first and debian second |
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| 15:25.06 | slbtc | Blokker: I installed debian already but can't boot into it. |
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| 15:25.19 | slbtc | Blokker: it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and hangs |
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| 15:25.53 | slbtc | Blokker: tried 4 times to boot into my installed debian through via EUFI |
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| 15:26.30 | Blokker | strange |
| 15:26.32 | slbtc | Blokker: see the vid shows to reinstall grub using ubuntu desktop with debian repos |
| 15:26.36 | Blokker | but then again, i'm no boot expert |
| 15:26.59 | Blokker | does networking work? |
| 15:27.05 | slbtc | Blokker: I see.. yes the network is stable |
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| 15:27.21 | Blokker | and you can e.g. ping google.com |
| 15:27.38 | slbtc | Blokker: I'm able to pull up firefox and surf on it. |
| 15:27.39 | jrm2k6 | slbtc: i have the same issue |
| 15:27.55 | slbtc | jrm2k6: I hate windows 8.1 |
| 15:28.04 | jrm2k6 | related to grub in my case but don't know how to fix it. |
| 15:28.11 | Blokker | no, try it from the same command line you use for the apt-get (you never know something else is getting in the way) |
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| 15:28.47 | slbtc | ah you mean apt-get ping google.com? |
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| 15:29.09 | Blokker | no, on the same command line type ping google.com |
| 15:29.11 | Blokker | without apt-get |
| 15:29.18 | slbtc | ok |
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| 15:31.49 | jrm2k6 | how can i check that grub is correctly configured? |
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| 15:32.20 | Blokker | if you see it while booting, it is correctly configured ... |
| 15:32.33 | Blokker | and that is the only way to check |
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| 15:32.37 | Blokker | afaik |
| 15:32.47 | slbtc | Blokker: it says there's no host |
| 15:32.58 | Blokker | networking issue |
| 15:33.10 | jrm2k6 | Blokker: I don't see it while botting |
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| 15:33.21 | slbtc | Blokker: hmm yet I'm able to get on firefox and browse on it without a problem |
| 15:33.22 | jrm2k6 | I am trying to fix my booting issue, blinking cursor |
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| 15:33.30 | jrm2k6 | so i started the recovery mode |
| 15:33.31 | Blokker | does it say "ping: unknown host google.com"? |
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| 15:33.37 | jrm2k6 | but dont really know what to do from there |
| 15:33.39 | slbtc | Blokker: yes |
| 15:33.48 | Blokker | it's not resolving dns |
| 15:34.03 | Blokker | if you try ping 8.8.4.4 it will probably work |
| 15:34.08 | slbtc | Blokker: ok |
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| 15:35.06 | Blokker | if that works, check your /etc/resolv.conf, if it is empty add a nameserver by adding a line starting with the word nameserver followed by an ip address |
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| 15:35.26 | Blokker | popular free to use servers are 8.8.4.4 (google) and 208.67.222.222 (opendns) |
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| 15:35.50 | somiaj | I thought google was 8.8.8.8 or do they have multiple ones? |
| 15:35.55 | Blokker | yes |
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| 15:36.03 | Blokker | always forget about that one :p |
| 15:36.25 | Blokker | probably because .4.4 was the first one i used |
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| 15:36.58 | Blokker | jrm2k6, you could always try to install your bootloader into the mbr of every drive in your machine |
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| 15:37.23 | jrm2k6 | Blokker: how do i do that? |
| 15:37.31 | slbtc | Blokker: I did ping 8.8.4.4 and it's spamming "64 bytes from 8.8.4.4 icmp req = # ttl = 41 time" |
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| 15:37.58 | Blokker | slbtc, ctrl+c to get out of it and edit your /etc/resolv.conf as described above to add a nameserver |
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| 15:38.24 | slbtc | Blokker: ok |
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| 15:40.25 | jrm2k6 | I dont even know how to access the grub prompt. I know that I dont have any stage1/stage2 in /boot/grub |
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| 15:41.04 | Blokker | jrm2k6, you are in the rescue environment? |
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| 15:41.19 | Blokker | chrooted into your install |
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| 15:41.36 | jrm2k6 | I am not sure that it is the resuce. I just chose the recovery mode |
| 15:41.37 | slbtc | Blokker: ok I'm in /etc/resov.conf |
| 15:41.44 | slbtc | Blokker: what do I put in there? |
| 15:41.48 | jrm2k6 | I don't know if it is the same |
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| 15:42.00 | Blokker | jrm2k6, in that case it should be as simple as using grub-install /dev/sd? |
| 15:42.13 | Blokker | yes jrm2k6, i sometimes get those names mixed up |
| 15:42.20 | jrm2k6 | ok |
| 15:42.23 | Blokker | slbtc: nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
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| 15:42.38 | Blokker | that's all, and try again, it should update this time |
| 15:42.42 | jrm2k6 | Blokker: I have several sd |
| 15:42.46 | jrm2k6 | in /dev |
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| 15:42.59 | jrm2k6 | how do i know which one I should install to? |
| 15:43.14 | slbtc | Blokker: just "nameserver" do I have to give it a name like my wireless connection or something? |
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| 15:43.20 | Blokker | you could try all that don't have a number behind them to be sure |
| 15:43.36 | Blokker | no, only the word nameserver followed by an ip |
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| 15:43.58 | slbtc | ok |
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| 15:44.28 | slbtc | Blokker: o_o yay!it's working! |
| 15:44.33 | slbtc | thanks! |
| 15:44.36 | Blokker | :) |
| 15:45.07 | slbtc | Blokker: wait I got errors at the end |
| 15:45.17 | Blokker | you should only have one for a missing gpg key |
| 15:45.25 | slbtc | Failed to fetch on 3 of them |
| 15:45.35 | Blokker | did you correct the line i gave you? |
| 15:46.03 | Blokker | because that was the line that was creating errors when i tried your sources.list |
| 15:46.11 | jrm2k6 | Blokker: is it risky to do a grub-install to all the sda* partitions? |
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| 15:46.22 | valdyn | jrm2k6: yes, dont |
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| 15:46.37 | jrm2k6 | valdyn: thanks. So what should I do then? |
| 15:46.37 | Blokker | ^ |
| 15:46.46 | slbtc | under deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy/updates main contrib non-free? |
| 15:46.49 | Blokker | in theory sda should be enough |
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| 15:46.53 | jrm2k6 | ok |
| 15:47.00 | Blokker | if it is also the first drive being booted by your system |
| 15:47.01 | valdyn | jrm2k6: usually you want grub on a *disk* not a partition, thats sda |
| 15:47.02 | jrm2k6 | But why it didnt work during the regular install? |
| 15:47.13 | slbtc | the deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy/updates main contrib non-free? |
| 15:47.15 | jrm2k6 | valdyn: thanks for the precision |
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| 15:47.38 | jrm2k6 | it says Installation finished, no error reported |
| 15:47.44 | jrm2k6 | any way to check it has done something? |
| 15:47.52 | Blokker | no, line 5 with security.debian.org |
| 15:48.09 | valdyn | jrm2k6: its ok, now your system (bios) needs to load what grub wrote when you boot |
| 15:48.19 | Blokker | and since it's a deb-src, you could even remove it in this case slbtc |
| 15:48.23 | jrm2k6 | valdyn: so just a regular reboot |
| 15:48.25 | jrm2k6 | lets see. |
| 15:48.39 | valdyn | jrm2k6: we cant know if your system really loads the sda mbr |
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| 15:48.44 | slbtc | Blokker: oh ok yeah I changed it too but it still gives me errors |
| 15:48.49 | slbtc | I'll try to remove it |
| 15:48.52 | Blokker | just ignore it |
| 15:49.01 | Blokker | your packages should be found |
| 15:49.03 | jrm2k6 | valdyn: I might need to change the boot order in my bios then |
| 15:49.09 | jrm2k6 | but yes there is no way to know |
| 15:49.11 | Blokker | possibly |
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| 15:49.55 | slbtc | Blokker: ok I removed it now it worked without any errors |
| 15:49.59 | slbtc | thanks |
| 15:50.42 | Blokker | anyway jrm2k6 good luck, i'm gonna grab some food |
| 15:50.50 | jrm2k6 | Blokker: thanks |
| 15:51.03 | jrm2k6 | seems to be working now |
| 15:51.18 | jrm2k6 | it proposes me the boot welcome screen (regular or recovery) |
| 15:52.10 | jrm2k6 | thanks for the help guys! |
| 15:52.22 | jrm2k6 | I still dont understand why it didnt work during the regular installation |
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| 15:54.55 | dawis | any security advices for my new linux debian 7 server? :) |
| 15:55.19 | dvs | iptables? |
| 15:55.54 | montyboy | dawis: iase.disa.mil 'Unix/Linux STIG' |
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| 15:56.00 | dawis | dvs: what iptables should i use? |
| 15:56.24 | dvs | dawis: There's only one iptables. |
| 15:56.39 | dawis | dvs: apt-get install iptables, i already have that one. |
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| 15:57.04 | dawis | dvs: i thought you was talking about the configs. |
| 15:57.09 | dvs | But is it configured? |
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| 15:57.17 | dawis | dvs: in what way? |
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| 15:57.29 | dawis | montyboy: what is that? |
| 15:57.38 | dawis | iase.disa.mil 'Unix/Linux STIG'? |
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| 15:58.34 | dvs | dawis: If you go here https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and see how many ports are open. |
| 15:58.43 | montyboy | dawis: A pretty large collection of Secutiry Technical Implementation Guides based of NIST standards |
| 15:58.55 | dubtech_ | secutiry |
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| 15:59.16 | montyboy | dubtech: That's a special type of security ;) |
| 15:59.49 | dubtech | montyboy: history teaches us that security by obcsruity does not work. |
| 16:00.07 | dubtech | *runsforcover* |
| 16:00.34 | montyboy | golf claps |
| 16:00.53 | dawis | dvs: what should i type in console? |
| 16:01.01 | dawis | montyboy: okay |
| 16:01.39 | slbtc | Blokker: I'm having another problem I can't reinstall grub it says "can not write log, openpty () failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) |
| 16:01.46 | dvs | dawis: That totally depends on what ports you wan to have open. |
| 16:02.09 | dawis | dvs: i want to close all and then open them by myself? |
| 16:02.11 | dubtech | oh by the way. i was experiencing something weird with network-manager after systemd came in on my thinkpad x220 with testing: sometimes it happens that an eth0 and an eth0-avahi connection accidently appears, modifying the routing table, kind of switching off wifi, until i delete the eth0 entry in nm-applet's config dialog. i had to disable (via systemctl) the eth0 network systemd unit to stop that |
| 16:02.12 | dubtech | behaviour. did anyone experience something like this as well? |
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| 16:03.24 | dvs | dawis: Most servers only leave the ports that they want other computers to connect to open |
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| 16:03.57 | phy1729 | s/Most servers/You should/ |
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| 16:07.10 | dvs | dawis: The iptables-persistent package makes setting up iptable rules easier. |
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| 16:08.15 | RoyK | !ufw | dawis |
| 16:08.21 | RoyK | !ufw |
| 16:08.21 | dpkg_ | Uncomplicated firewall (ufw) is an <iptables> front-end with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter (PF). https://launchpad.net/ufw |
| 16:09.03 | phy1729 | just iptables -P INPUT DROP and iptable -P OUTPUT DROP and add the rules you need |
| 16:09.23 | dawis | RoyK: should i install ufw? does it need any configuration? |
| 16:09.32 | dawis | dvs: thanks |
| 16:09.37 | dawis | dvs: should i use iptables-persistent? |
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| 16:09.56 | RoyK | dawis: I just use ufw - it's easy and persistent |
| 16:10.02 | dvs | dawis: It makes saving and changing your roles a whole lot eaiser |
| 16:10.19 | RoyK | dawis: it doesn't have all the stuff iptables can use, being a simple iptables wrapper, but it has most of it |
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| 16:10.38 | dawis | RoyK: should i use iptables + ufw at same time? |
| 16:10.39 | phy1729 | dawis: it depends on your environment and what you like. Try them all (including just iptables no wrappers) and see what you like |
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| 16:10.47 | dawis | or should i remove iptables while install ufc? |
| 16:10.48 | dawis | ufw |
| 16:10.49 | RoyK | dawis: you can |
| 16:11.04 | RoyK | dawis: remove the iptables rules first |
| 16:11.36 | RoyK | dawis: and configure things not supported by ufw in the secondary rules of ufw, which is iptables, basically |
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| 16:11.50 | dawis | RoyK: i don't get i? i already installed ufw. so now i have iptables + ufw. should i let it be like that? or do i need remove anything at all? |
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| 16:12.05 | RoyK | dawis: iptables -F |
| 16:12.12 | phy1729 | dawis: ufw is a wrapper around iptables |
| 16:12.19 | RoyK | dawis: and remove whatever iptables you have in /etc/rc.local or something |
| 16:12.34 | RoyK | as phy1729 said - it just makes it simpler to program |
| 16:12.48 | dawis | root@debianserver:~# iptables -F |
| 16:12.48 | dawis | vroot@debianserver:~# |
| 16:12.51 | phy1729 | however iptables really isn't that complicated |
| 16:13.08 | RoyK | phy1729: no, or yes, depending on what you want to do |
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| 16:13.25 | RoyK | phy1729: but ufw is a bit easier ;) |
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| 16:13.29 | berarma | !hi |
| 16:13.29 | dpkg_ | hello, berarma |
| 16:13.36 | dawis | RoyK: i only found exit 0 in /etc/rc.local :S |
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| 16:13.58 | RoyK | dawis: ok, so you haven't setup persistent iptables rules? |
| 16:14.19 | dawis | RoyK: i also installed iptables-persistent |
| 16:14.33 | dawis | RoyK: i didnt do anything. i just installed it |
| 16:14.35 | dawis | :) |
| 16:14.36 | RoyK | I don't know that package - sorry |
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| 16:15.47 | phy1729 | dawis: look at ufw and see if you like it. Personally I like just writing iptables rules directly but it's up to you not us to find what you like |
| 16:15.59 | slbtc | I can't figure out what I did wrong I'm trying to reinstall grub with the command "apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi and it says "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) it is mounted |
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| 16:16.27 | Hypfer | hi, I just installed debian wheezy on my thinkpad x220 and I have no audio |
| 16:16.32 | Hypfer | the card is showing up |
| 16:16.36 | Hypfer | but no sound |
| 16:16.39 | Hypfer | it works with windows. |
| 16:16.43 | Hypfer | so its not broken hw |
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| 16:18.36 | jhutchins | !alsa checklist |
| 16:18.36 | dpkg_ | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 16:19.00 | jhutchins | Hypfer: Usually it's something muted in alsamixer |
| 16:21.38 | boudiccas | how can i stop, and possibly kill the screensaver from the commandline please? |
| 16:22.31 | slbtc | I'm stuck trying to dual boot debian and windows 8.1 I can't reinstall grub |
| 16:22.37 | Hypfer | okay, problem was that I wasnt in the audio group |
| 16:22.40 | mtn | boudiccas: find it with ps aux and then kill the pid with kill -9 pid |
| 16:23.14 | boudiccas | mtn; i'm hoping for some command so that i can run it from a bash script |
| 16:23.29 | slbtc | I already mounted the device with "mount /dev/sdx2 /mnt/boot/efi" |
| 16:23.41 | mtn | boudiccas: might have said that first ;) |
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| 16:24.01 | slbtc | and when I try to install grub it says error can not write to log /dev/pts not mounted? |
| 16:24.12 | slbtc | I don't know what to do |
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| 16:29.03 | boudiccas | how can i stop and possibly kill the xscreensaver from the commandline, such that i can then use the command in a bash script |
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| 16:30.16 | sharky | boudiccas, pkill -9 xscreensaver |
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| 16:32.14 | babilen_ | (assuming it is xscreensaver) |
| 16:32.22 | boudiccas | sharky; and how does that work in a bash script? and you only need -9 when you use kill -9 pid |
| 16:32.42 | slbtc | when I try "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg it says mount point /mnt/dev does not exist |
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| 16:33.31 | slbtc | I mean it says /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?) |
| 16:33.52 | mtn | slbtc: are you using the rescue mode from the install disk? |
| 16:33.57 | sharky | boudiccas, it works as it is, directly writing the command |
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| 16:34.14 | slbtc | mtn: no I'm just on the regular desktop |
| 16:34.44 | mtn | slbtc: you mean you are logged into the install that does not have grub installed? |
| 16:35.01 | slbtc | mtn: well live CD |
| 16:35.08 | Floris497 | how do i set colors in debian terminal? do i need a package for it? all users are colorless not only root |
| 16:35.23 | mtn | slbtc: why not use the debian installer and rescue mode? it is really easy to use. do you have the intall disk? |
| 16:35.27 | Floris497 | i want to set it glabally |
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| 16:35.40 | slbtc | mtn: on ubuntu because they say I have to use ubuntu to reinstall grub for debian to load with dual booting windows 8.1 and debian |
| 16:35.50 | ruukasu | why isn't freenet in the debian repos when it's fully free software and gnunet (which has a fraction of the users) is in the repos? |
| 16:36.03 | slbtc | mtn: debian won't load it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and hangs |
| 16:36.09 | mtn | slbtc: huh? really? anyway, try this then: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
| 16:37.47 | Floris497 | I mean in the termianl |
| 16:38.09 | slbtc | mtn: I'll show you the vid I'm trying to follow |
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| 16:38.25 | slbtc | mtn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0&html5=1 |
| 16:38.29 | mtn | slbtc: no need. just follow the guide. |
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| 16:38.35 | slbtc | mtn: ok |
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| 16:40.02 | mechanicalduck | I can put mounts in /etc/fstab also for fuse fs. |
| 16:40.09 | mechanicalduck | Now I want a non-root, userspace fuse fs mount in /etc/fsatb. |
| 16:40.10 | mechanicalduck | *fstab |
| 16:40.14 | mechanicalduck | But - /etc/fstab is used by mount as root. |
| 16:40.17 | mechanicalduck | So it fails - that fuse fs mount requires a mount by non-root. |
| 16:40.22 | mechanicalduck | Is there also a user-specific fstab? Can I emulate this? |
| 16:40.26 | mechanicalduck | I want this mount at system startup. |
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| 16:41.45 | slbtc | mtn: sudo: grub: command not found |
| 16:43.03 | slbtc | they really don't want you to have any kind of freedom from windows 8.1 do they? |
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| 16:45.07 | slbtc | I hate windows 8.1 with passion it's my dad's laptop and he needs it for work so I figured I'd install debian along side it but it's not working |
| 16:45.14 | boudiccas | this might be the relevant command for stopping the xscreensaver running under gnome mediaplayer, in its config "heartbeat-cmd="xscreensaver-command -deactivate >&- 2>&- &" |
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| 16:48.51 | slbtc | ubuntu is so buggy and I can't copy and paste the sources.list so I can just restart the laptop and start over and try again |
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| 16:53.34 | seedix | slbtc: although ubuntu is buggy and cumbersome I don't think that it would make trouble to cp /etc/apt/sources.list /to/some/path |
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| 16:53.45 | funkster | I have ClientAliveCountMax 2 and ClientAliveInterval 100 in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config (on remote server) - and my ssh idle connections still drop from home -> remote server. What else am I missing? |
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| 16:55.54 | Mk558 | Just a question of mine: what would be any significant differences between mint and debian? I'm not real good with the command line I guess, but I'm kind of used to the Debian one. |
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| 16:56.25 | babilen | Mk558: You are probably better off asking the Mint people as they take Debian and change it. :) |
| 16:56.28 | babilen | dpkg_: mint |
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| 16:56.35 | babilen | dselect: mint |
| 16:56.36 | dselect | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 16:56.38 | mtn | Mk558: command line is the same in all distros, pretty much |
| 16:56.42 | Mk558 | bash? |
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| 16:57.25 | babilen | Mk558: The programs you would use on the CLI would, however, be almost identical (I guess, would be surprised if that isn't the case). |
| 16:57.28 | Mk558 | I just know that BSD works a little different (or...at least OS X does) compared to my Ubuntu installs in the command line. Minor things here and there though, nothing drastic like Windows' poor excuse of a command line |
| 16:58.44 | babilen | Mk558: Yeah, there definitely is a difference between the BSDs and Linux, but most Linux distributions are pretty much the same. (modulo package managers, themes and (developer/user) community) |
| 16:58.45 | mtn | Mk558: under the "paint", mint and debian are very similar |
| 16:59.12 | Mk558 | because I've been considering moving from Windows 7 to Mint with MATE |
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| 16:59.31 | babilen | Well, we wouldn't support that in this channel. |
| 16:59.37 | mtn | Mk558: if you want stability you want debian |
| 16:59.51 | babilen | pets his unstable |
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| 16:59.57 | mtn | heh |
| 16:59.59 | Mk558 | I've had a roller coaster of OSs, but that's normal for people like me I guess. OS X -> Ubuntu 10.04LTS -> Windows 7 -> who knows where next |
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| 17:00.33 | Mk558 | stability...such as...repository stability? I don't usually install that much under *NIX |
| 17:00.54 | Mk558 | P.S. I'm typing this from Homer .94 on a Macintosh PowerBook 170 under System 7.0.1 |
| 17:00.55 | ompaul | Mk558: when you pick something that we support please ask us for help, else it is offtopic, you might notice we support Debian |
| 17:00.59 | babilen | Mk558: Just try Mint and Debian and use whatever you like more. Debian is definitely not a bad choice and you'll get a very supportive community and free books such as the excellent http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ |
| 17:01.33 | ompaul | ,v mate |
| 17:01.34 | judd | No package named 'mate' was found in i386. |
| 17:01.56 | babilen | dselect: mate |
| 17:01.57 | dselect | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
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| 17:02.26 | babilen | would argue that mint is a better choice if one really wants MATE. But then I consider MATE to be a horrible mistake and a very suboptimal choice. |
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| 17:03.13 | ompaul | mate is a way to hold on to the past well past the sell by date |
| 17:03.22 | ompaul | who knows how long it will last |
| 17:03.31 | ompaul | then the change will be a lot bigger |
| 17:03.39 | Mk558 | I'm just stuck in the old GNOME 2 pit. I'm sure I can fiddle with Cinnamon to get it close to GNOME 2 appearence, but I am a computer user, not a computer fighter. |
| 17:04.04 | ompaul | so accept the default and get on with your life |
| 17:04.15 | ompaul | seems you want to fight it into a specific shape |
| 17:04.24 | ompaul | you don't even have to use gnome |
| 17:04.38 | ompaul | lxde fvwm and many more |
| 17:04.46 | stylo | >fvwm |
| 17:04.49 | stylo | is that still used? |
| 17:05.02 | ompaul | stylo: by some people it is still maintained |
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| 17:05.19 | ompaul | given that some people only want one or two applications is it a very light load |
| 17:05.32 | ompaul | bit of a dog under SID atm |
| 17:05.47 | stylo | I'm using dwm right now. Very satisfied with it |
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| 17:05.56 | ruukasu | I downgraded a package because my system fails to function when it's on the current candidate. How can I file a bug report for the candidate version when reportbug records the version I have installed as the buggy version? |
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| 17:08.42 | centrx | ruukasu, Choose to edit the message, and change the text in the bug report |
| 17:08.53 | ruukasu | ahh, okay |
| 17:08.54 | ruukasu | thanks |
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| 17:17.55 | slbtc | I'm still having problems the same problems installing grub |
| 17:18.27 | slbtc | it says the device isn't mounted and I mounted it when I try to mount it it says that it's mounted |
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| 17:21.34 | mtn | slbtc: are you chrooting, too? |
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| 17:24.07 | mtn | slbtc: the easiest way to reinstall grub in your case is to use the install disk in rescue mode. mount the proper root partition and then reinstall grub. |
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| 17:27.00 | Lildirt | Does anyone have issues with GNOME crashing (then promptly restarting itself)? |
| 17:27.19 | mtn | Lildirt: which version of debian? |
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| 17:27.48 | ruukasu | now that I've submitted the bug, will I hear back from the maintainer? |
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| 17:28.24 | Lildirt | Debian 7.6 (Wheezy) (64-bit) |
| 17:28.44 | centrx | ruukasu, Yes probably |
| 17:28.45 | Lildirt | but the GNOME UI just randomly seems to crash, then comes back up moments later. |
| 17:29.02 | mtn | Lildirt: that would be unusual. which video card/chip do you have? |
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| 17:29.26 | centrx | ruukasu, Though some unimportant bugs don't get attention and some packages have semi-absent maintainers. |
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| 17:29.41 | Lildirt | AMD Radeon HD 7950 |
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| 17:29.55 | Quantum` | I am trying to run an app as a non-priveleged user, but for some reason it's still trying to use my prived user. |
| 17:30.09 | mtn | Lildirt: using which driver? did you check out the ati section of the debian wiki? |
| 17:30.14 | Lildirt | AMD's proprietary (fglrx-driver) drivers installed, because the open-source ones didn't work at all. |
| 17:30.18 | slbtc | mtn: ok |
| 17:30.38 | Quantum` | https://pastee.org/enf94 |
| 17:30.42 | ruukasu | centrx: it's critical, so hopefully it'll get some attention. though nobody else online seems to have the same issue :/ |
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| 17:32.25 | centrx | Quantum`, This is the mail client? |
| 17:32.26 | ruukasu | centrx: is there any way to see who the maintainer is, and see if they're active? |
| 17:32.44 | Quantum` | centrx: Y. I'm trying to run it as a nonprived user. |
| 17:33.08 | centrx | ruukasu, bugs.debian.org/<package name> will show you the name at the top, as well as other bugs for the package |
| 17:33.20 | centrx | ruukasu, packages.qa.debian.org/<package name> will show you package activity |
| 17:33.26 | ruukasu | thanks |
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| 17:33.35 | SynrGy | Lildirt: using the one provided by wheezy or wheezy-backports, then? |
| 17:33.59 | SynrGy | Lildirt: when you tried the free driver, did you try it with non-free firmware? that is often needed. |
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| 17:34.18 | Lildirt | I did. |
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| 17:34.22 | SynrGy | k |
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| 17:34.44 | ruukasu | centrx: my bug isn't showing up on bugs.bebian.org/pkg. does it need time to be processed or something, or did the report not work? |
| 17:34.54 | centrx | Quantum`, Seems like GL or dconf or evolution/Gnome libraries are broken |
| 17:35.14 | centrx | ruukasu, It should take a few minutes for processing, but might vary |
| 17:35.18 | centrx | ruukasu, Did you use the Debian SMTP server? |
| 17:35.34 | Quantum` | centrx: I'm running systemd, and that's supposed to create the /run/user dir, but it's not. I'll go over there.' |
| 17:35.54 | ruukasu | reportbug couldn't connect to my mail host, so I copied the to, subject, and body, and sent it manually |
| 17:36.00 | ruukasu | (centrx) |
| 17:36.12 | Lildirt | Think I found my issue though, missing gcc-4.6, linux-headers-3.2.0-4, and linux-headers-amd64 |
| 17:36.20 | centrx | ruukasu, yeah that should work |
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| 17:36.50 | centrx | ruukasu, it's only been a few minutes though, so no need to evacuate the planet |
| 17:37.01 | ruukasu | heh, ok |
| 17:37.09 | ruukasu | also |
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| 17:38.37 | ruukasu | since the jessie candidate makes my system unusable, I'm currently using wheezy's candidate. I installed in april and it worked fine, then I reinstalled in september and it's broken. the last migration was august, and the last migration before that was february |
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| 17:38.48 | Lildirt | SynrGy: Yeah, I think it's because I'm missing the linux-headers. No idea how, but VirtualBox began complaining about that today, so I think I'll try that. |
| 17:38.56 | ruukasu | is there any way I can obtain the february version to use that one? |
| 17:39.03 | ruukasu | (instead of the ancient wheezy version) |
| 17:39.10 | Lildirt | Might've accidently uninstalled them or something. |
| 17:39.13 | Lildirt | shrugs. |
| 17:39.19 | centrx | ruukasu, http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
| 17:39.25 | SynrG | Lildirt: without headers you wouldn't be able to build dkms. if you didn't have that, i would think it would just fail to work at all ... |
| 17:39.28 | Bl4ckSh4d0w | Change your language to Finnish. |
| 17:39.30 | SynrG | not fail intermittently |
| 17:39.35 | ruukasu | centrx: thanks |
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| 17:39.54 | Lildirt | SynrG: Like I said, I have no idea. |
| 17:40.03 | Lildirt | Nevertheless, going to install and hopefully reboot without my system dying. |
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| 17:44.08 | seedix | how do I find out what S-ATA version revision my laptop mainboard has? |
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| 17:44.55 | phasip | I'm having trouble with suspend. The first time I suspend it resumes fine using usb. The second time, it doesn't =/ Anyone know what could be the problem? |
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| 17:45.22 | sliddjur | If I set /usr/sbin/nologin as a users shell, can that user somehow change its shell? |
| 17:45.29 | sliddjur | in /etc/passwd |
| 17:45.33 | NiLon | seedix easiest would be checking MB specs out of some site |
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| 17:46.24 | NiLon | and you can try to find that info from dmesg | grep SATA |
| 17:46.43 | slbtc | mnt: debian starts loading then it just hangs on a black screen with a blinking cursor |
| 17:46.52 | slbtc | mnt: I reinstalled grub in rescue mode |
| 17:47.09 | slbtc | mnt: I'm out of ideas. |
| 17:47.20 | seedix | NiLon: I prefer using a tool such as lshw or the like |
| 17:47.52 | slbtc | it's not loading the desktop |
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| 17:48.08 | NiLon | seedix feel free to use any tool |
| 17:48.14 | slbtc | just stuck on the black screen with blinking cursor.. |
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| 17:49.24 | mtn | slbtc: where did you install grub? and was the bios in legacy mode when installing debian? |
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| 17:49.46 | slbtc | mtn: no legacy mode is turned off |
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| 17:50.02 | slbtc | mtn: I installed it to /dev/sda2 |
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| 17:50.20 | mtn | slbtc: well, there is your problem! install to /dev/sda |
| 17:50.23 | slbtc | mtn: does legacy mode have to be turned on? |
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| 17:50.32 | slbtc | mtn: ah ok |
| 17:50.45 | mtn | slbtc: probably not, try installing grub to the correct location first |
| 17:52.38 | slbtc | mnt: ok |
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| 17:54.21 | slbtc | mtn: where do I put the root on? |
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| 17:55.04 | slbtc | mtn: I have free space on sda8 which has 107 GB and sda7 is swap space |
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| 17:56.05 | mtn | slbtc: I thought you already installed debian. didn't you? |
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| 17:56.24 | slbtc | mtn: yes but it's taking me through these steps again in resuce mode |
| 17:56.39 | mtn | slbtc: you mount your root partition |
| 17:56.44 | slbtc | rescue * |
| 17:57.04 | slbtc | mtn: it's not giving me a commandline |
| 17:57.22 | mtn | slbtc: in other words, where did you install debian? if sda2, that is root, so mount sda2 |
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| 17:57.49 | slbtc | sda2 is the grub-efi |
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| 17:58.55 | mtn | slbtc: so which partition did you use to install debian? |
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| 17:59.15 | slbtc | I think sda8 |
| 17:59.19 | slbtc | I'll try that |
| 17:59.31 | mtn | slbtc: you think? yikes! |
| 17:59.48 | slbtc | no I'm sure it is |
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| 18:00.20 | mtn | slbtc: you said sda8 was free space. |
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| 18:01.19 | slbtc | mtn: oh.. no it's where I installed deb my mistake |
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| 18:02.10 | slbtc | mtn: wait |
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| 18:02.37 | slbtc | mtn: is there a way to find out? like gdisk -l /dev/sda? |
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| 18:03.15 | mtn | slbtc: you really sound like you should install again and make sure you do it right this time. might be a lot faster than what you are trying to do. |
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| 18:04.00 | slbtc | mtn: I'll try I'm pretty sure it was installed correctly the first time I followed the instructions to a T |
| 18:04.49 | slbtc | mtn: I think everyone has this problem that's why in the vid the instructions say to reinstall grub through ubuntu desktop |
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| 18:06.17 | mtn | slbtc: I am pretty sure not everyone has the problem ;) |
| 18:06.21 | slbtc | mtn: it's because it's windows 8.1 and they made it so complicated to install anything with it |
| 18:06.33 | slbtc | mtn: I didn't have this problem with windows 7 |
| 18:07.15 | slbtc | with windows 7 I didn't have to do anything but install a linux distro beside it and there were no problems |
| 18:07.40 | mtn | slbtc: this might help you: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall |
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| 18:09.13 | slbtc | mtn: I tried that on ubuntu desktop via the youtube video |
| 18:09.34 | slbtc | mtn: that's where it gives me that /dev/pts not mounted? error |
| 18:09.36 | mtn | slbtc: why not follow the debian wiki instead, since you are using debian? |
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| 18:21.57 | somethingsome | something something debian |
| 18:22.17 | somethingsome | Something I learned a few days ago. |
| 18:22.36 | somethingsome | Never install debian on a western digital drive if you need any type of reliability :/ |
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| 18:22.57 | somethingsome | I lost my entire debian install because the MBR was full of bad sectors and the drive refused to remap them. |
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| 18:23.44 | somethingsome | Also! |
| 18:23.48 | teraflops | somethingsome: oh that's very .... technical |
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| 18:24.07 | somethingsome | I want to say thanks to all the developers and maintainers of debian and it's packages for creating such an awesome distro and comunity. |
| 18:24.15 | somethingsome | I'm running wheezy IIRC |
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| 18:26.43 | somethingsome | teraflops: yea |
| 18:26.53 | teraflops | ;) |
| 18:26.57 | somethingsome | teraflops: I'm never going to head back to a WD drive again. I've had nonstop failure with them |
| 18:27.06 | somethingsome | IMO: WD = Trash |
| 18:27.14 | somethingsome | Seagate doesn't hold up to Quantom though :/ |
| 18:27.28 | somethingsome | I miss my old 40gb quantom fireball from 1998 |
| 18:27.37 | somethingsome | it wasn't the fastest, but it was the most reliable :) |
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| 18:27.54 | teraflops | i have many of the caviar ones they are old and they perform superb somethingsome |
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| 18:27.56 | somethingsome | :') may she keep on beeping. |
| 18:28.18 | somethingsome | teraflops: call me beep |
| 18:28.19 | somethingsome | :) |
| 18:28.25 | teraflops | hah |
| 18:28.28 | somethingsome | Caviar drivers where the shit back in the day |
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| 18:28.43 | somethingsome | Good speeds, great reliability. |
| 18:29.04 | somethingsome | I've moved on to a solid state from OCZ though. Great reliability. Horrible lifespan |
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| 18:32.26 | somethingsome | teraflops: 20 years on a SSD is a horrid life span. |
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| 18:32.58 | teraflops | somethingsome: well, storage is so cheap this days |
| 18:33.10 | somethingsome | teraflops: true. |
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| 18:33.24 | somethingsome | I should do something with my nexus 7 |
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| 18:33.31 | somethingsome | I haven't really been using it since I got it. |
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| 18:34.32 | teraflops | I give a 2k13 one to my cousin ... I do not like such things |
| 18:34.52 | teraflops | somethingsome: i think ubuntu phone fits in this tablets isnt it? |
| 18:35.10 | somethingsome | it does but it's a hackjob right now |
| 18:35.24 | somethingsome | I don't get why they don't build on AOSP. |
| 18:36.00 | teraflops | uhm, im lost regarding that, i read the wiki time ago |
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| 18:37.48 | slbtc | mtn: do I just boot into live CD in advanced options? |
| 18:38.14 | somethingsome | teraflops: it's litterally an ubuntu port |
| 18:38.15 | somethingsome | to arm |
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| 18:39.37 | slbtc | mtn: how do I access a terminal if there's no desktop environment? |
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| 18:40.44 | somethingsome | slbtc: ctrl alt f1 |
| 18:40.47 | somethingsome | or f2 or any of the function ekys |
| 18:40.48 | teraflops | slbtc: from where? |
| 18:40.59 | somethingsome | slbtc: It's quite simple. |
| 18:41.16 | slbtc | it's on the installation screen |
| 18:41.17 | teraflops | debian installer? |
| 18:41.22 | slbtc | yeah |
| 18:41.27 | teraflops | slbtc: as somethingsome says |
| 18:41.36 | slbtc | ok |
| 18:42.59 | slbtc | "mount" unknown command |
| 18:43.18 | slbtc | I'm trying to reinstall grub but I can't remember which pts I installed debian |
| 18:43.26 | slbtc | reinstall grub* |
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| 18:44.44 | somethingsome | slbtc: You could boot into the live cd |
| 18:44.54 | somethingsome | mount your local install then chroot into it and run grub2-install |
| 18:45.03 | slbtc | somethingsome: how? |
| 18:45.19 | slbtc | somethingsome: how do I boot into the live CD? |
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| 18:45.48 | somethingsome | slbtc: do you have a debian live cd? |
| 18:46.15 | slbtc | debian 7.0 not debian 7.6 the debian 7.6 is on a USB device |
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| 18:46.33 | slbtc | windows 8.1 doesn't allow for linux cds to be installed |
| 18:46.44 | slbtc | or used |
| 18:46.52 | somethingsome | lel |
| 18:46.54 | somethingsome | wut |
| 18:47.04 | slbtc | I tried it just boots up to windows 8.1 |
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| 18:47.41 | slbtc | I changed the boot order though maybe it'll work now |
| 18:48.00 | somethingsome | ok... |
| 18:48.09 | somethingsome | did the machine shipw ith winwos 8 |
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| 18:48.20 | somethingsome | or did you install it yourself, as you might have secure boot on if it is a windows 8 computer |
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| 18:49.30 | slbtc | no it came with windows 8 and upgraded to 8.1 |
| 18:50.02 | slbtc | I turned secure boot off |
| 18:50.07 | somethingsome | slbtc: you have to disable secure boot |
| 18:50.07 | somethingsome | ok |
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| 18:53.01 | sliddjur | I need some help setting up a samba share |
| 18:53.15 | sliddjur | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way! |
| 18:53.20 | sliddjur | this is the guide i followed |
| 18:53.49 | somethingsome | I've setup samba shares in the past |
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| 18:53.59 | somethingsome | I am not helping set up anymore. ever. again. period. |
| 18:54.16 | sliddjur | lol |
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| 19:05.50 | W4RH4WK | hi there, is there a way to configure samba to only allow certain characters for the creation of files and folders? |
| 19:05.50 | hans_ | hi. |
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| 19:06.28 | MrTorque | hi. |
| 19:06.33 | MrTorque | Can i revert: sgdisk -G /dev/sde? |
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| 19:06.56 | justanotheruser | hello, I had an encrypted volume set up and had grub set up to boot either win7 or that volume. That volume got corrupted and I reinstalled debian. In the installation GRUB installation failed. Now when I select debian in the grub menu it cannot find the volume groups. |
| 19:06.58 | MrTorque | The old partition table is still in use. |
| 19:07.03 | justanotheruser | ;DR How do I set up and install GRUB so it can find my volume groups |
| 19:07.10 | justanotheruser | *TL;DR |
| 19:07.10 | MrTorque | or other Question: What happens to my Raid 1+LVM if the GUIDs are changed? |
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| 19:11.12 | deb__ | hi all |
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| 19:11.43 | deb__ | have download minimal debian image and installed in my pc |
| 19:12.03 | deb__ | my system is not booting up into text mode |
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| 19:12.32 | deb__ | how to make it boot from GUI |
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| 19:13.07 | deb__ | this is the image file name debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst which I downloaded |
| 19:13.22 | deb__ | its only 224 mb |
| 19:13.43 | deb__ | and might not contain all packages.. |
| 19:13.51 | deb__ | need help to install all the required packages |
| 19:13.59 | deb__ | or any suggestion which I can work out |
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| 19:14.24 | dvs | deb__: pick a desktop environment and install it. |
| 19:15.28 | deb__ | dvs: thanks. I am new to linux. I did some apt-get but there are other issues popping |
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| 19:16.07 | deb__ | do you suggest me to download full cd/dvd which has all the packages |
| 19:16.07 | deb__ | ? |
| 19:16.34 | dvs | deb__: Is your internet connection working in Debian? |
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| 19:17.01 | deb__ | I am not sure of it.. I think it is not working |
| 19:17.16 | deb__ | I was getting some errors when apt-get |
| 19:17.26 | dvs | deb__: What errors? |
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| 19:17.59 | deb__ | give me a min i'll connected the cable to my desktop and tell |
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| 19:28.59 | dvs | !wb |
| 19:28.59 | dpkg_ | thanks, dvs. It's good to be back. |
| 19:29.08 | dvs | imposter! |
| 19:29.34 | somethingsome | !wb |
| 19:29.34 | dpkg_ | thanks, somethingsome. It's good to be back. |
| 19:30.15 | don_armstrong | dpkg: wantnick |
| 19:30.15 | dpkg_ | wish i knew, don_armstrong |
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| 19:30.37 | dvs | !wb |
| 19:30.37 | dpkg | thanks, dvs. It's good to be back. |
| 19:30.41 | dvs | yay! |
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| 19:31.19 | deb__ | hi |
| 19:31.21 | deb__ | all |
| 19:31.39 | deb__ | i did tasksel and aptitude |
| 19:31.47 | deb__ | aptitude install gnome |
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| 19:32.07 | deb__ | it says Conuldn't find any pacakge whose name or description matched "gnome" |
| 19:32.18 | dvs | !install gnome |
| 19:32.18 | dpkg | To install GNOME: «apt-get install …» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
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| 19:32.46 | dvs | deb__: What is in your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
| 19:33.14 | deb__ | i am in tty1 text interface |
| 19:33.27 | dvs | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:33.30 | deb__ | when executing the command apt-get install gnome |
| 19:33.32 | deb__ | it says |
| 19:33.40 | deb__ | E:unable to locate package gnome |
| 19:34.46 | deb__ | dvs: how to print content of source.list |
| 19:34.53 | slbtc | booting from the CD didn't work it said failed to boot from CD. I already tried to rescue reinstall grub it went to 50% and vanished not sure if that means it was done installing but I tried to boot up debian again and it just took me to the black screen with blinking cursor. |
| 19:34.56 | dvs | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:36.38 | deb__ | nothing is being printed |
| 19:36.46 | deb__ | it says no such file source.list |
| 19:36.58 | dvs | deb__: it's "sources.list" |
| 19:37.49 | deb__ | han |
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| 19:37.52 | deb__ | thanks |
| 19:37.59 | deb__ | it says |
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| 19:38.20 | deb__ | deb cdrom: wheezy... |
| 19:38.39 | dvs | thats it</ |
| 19:38.43 | deb__ | rest of the lines are commented out i guess # |
| 19:38.51 | deb__ | yes |
| 19:39.04 | dvs | !wheezy sources.list |
| 19:39.04 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 19:40.17 | deb__ | dpkg: yes it has these line but all of which is commented with # character except one line which reads |
| 19:40.17 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, deb__ |
| 19:41.00 | dvs | deb__: Edit sources.list so that it has the three lines tat dpkg mentioned. |
| 19:41.11 | deb__ | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ = Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20...-14:09]/ wheezy main |
| 19:41.22 | deb__ | okay |
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| 19:43.24 | deb__ | there is one more thing |
| 19:43.49 | deb__ | the line above the command in sources.list reads #Line commented out by installer because it failed to verfy: |
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| 19:44.07 | deb__ | for wheezy/updates main |
| 19:44.51 | dvs | deb__: The only lines that should be in sources.list should be the one mentioned by dpkg |
| 19:45.10 | dvs | deb__: The only lines that should be in sources.list should be the ones mentioned by dpkg |
| 19:45.17 | deb__ | those are present.. I shall uncomment them |
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| 19:45.28 | deb__ | and do I need to restart after uncommenting the lines |
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| 19:45.47 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.59 | deb__ | okay |
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| 19:47.26 | deb__ | i think it is trying to connect to internet |
| 19:47.33 | deb__ | I'll ping you back again in some time |
| 19:47.37 | deb__ | It seems to be working... |
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| 19:47.42 | deb__ | just give me a moment |
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| 19:50.25 | babilen | great, ta |
| 19:50.29 | deb___ | hi all |
| 19:50.31 | dvs | o/ |
| 19:50.37 | deb___ | I am getting an error |
| 19:50.39 | deb___ | it reads |
| 19:51.08 | babilen | That's a talented error indeed |
| 19:51.09 | deb___ | E: GPG Error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signature were invalid: NoDATA 1 NODATA 2 |
| 19:51.27 | Socapex | .leave |
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| 19:51.53 | dvs | never seen that before |
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| 19:52.27 | deb___ | should I dowload a complete CD/DVD and install rather than using mimial setup |
| 19:53.01 | dvs | deb___: If you have a working internet connection it wouldn't make a difference. |
| 19:53.47 | deb___ | i am restarting the pc and then I shall try again |
| 19:54.03 | deb___ | should I install gnome directly |
| 19:54.08 | deb___ | is there a way to do that |
| 19:54.28 | dvs | deb___: aptitude install gnome should do it. |
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| 19:55.14 | deb___ | yes, I tried but it is not working out |
| 19:55.30 | deb___ | it says - Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gnome" |
| 19:56.03 | deb___ | apt-get install gnome --> this one says "E: Unable to locate package gnome |
| 19:56.08 | dvs | deb___: and you did a "aptitude update"? |
| 19:56.18 | deb___ | yes |
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| 19:57.01 | deb___ | after restart? I did it before after modifying sources.list |
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| 19:57.13 | dvs | deb___: Try it now. |
| 19:57.24 | dvs | aptitude update first |
| 19:57.25 | deb___ | okay |
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| 20:02.05 | deb__ | hi all |
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| 20:02.16 | deb__ | no it reads the same error |
| 20:02.27 | deb__ | NODATA 1 NODATA 2 |
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| 20:03.03 | dvs | deb__: Error for what? aptitude update? |
| 20:03.14 | deb__ | yes |
| 20:03.37 | dvs | deb__: I'd still run "aptitude install gnome" and see what happens |
| 20:04.54 | deb__ | okay |
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| 20:05.38 | deb__ | Coudn't find any packages... description matched "gnome" |
| 20:05.44 | deb__ | same error message |
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| 20:06.40 | dvs | deb__: OK, try the full DVD. You'll get Gnome but you still won't get the Internet. |
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| 20:08.49 | Lildirt | Jesus wtf |
| 20:08.56 | Lildirt | tracker-miner-fs is using 5.7GB of RAM. |
| 20:08.57 | Lildirt | What is going on |
| 20:09.03 | deb__ | dvs_ : is it because debian is not able to identify my controller |
| 20:09.12 | deb__ | I have read it earlier |
| 20:09.33 | deb__ | on some site for r81111/8168 |
| 20:09.47 | dvs | deb__: I'm not sure what the problem is. |
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| 20:10.33 | deb__ | dvs: tanks a ton for helping me. thanks again. I am just onto Fedora.. might I'll get some gui there. |
| 20:11.02 | deb__ | and internent connection.. Thanks dvs. |
| 20:11.34 | deb__ | and dpkg thanks. |
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| 20:13.47 | brontosaurusrex | what would iceweasel 33 need to play html5 mp3 audio? |
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| 20:15.56 | brontosaurusrex | about:config says that gstreamer is enabled and command line gstreamer player can easily play mp3s |
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| 20:16.58 | brontosaurusrex | or is mp3 "politicaly" disabled? |
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| 20:18.31 | Artemis3 | probably not anymore, i think that patent expired |
| 20:19.05 | nido | iirc, gstreamer doesn't "play" anything, rather, it knows what kind of codecs can decode what kind of files. the packages libgstreamer-plugins-good/bad/ugly have the actual codecs. mp3 is probably in bad or ugly |
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| 20:20.05 | brontosaurusrex | nido: the gst123 is cli player and plays mp3s fine, so its not a codec issue i'd think |
| 20:20.05 | nido | Artemis3: I have no data, but since the mpeg foundation is still doing licenses for mpeg1, i highly doubt a later technologies patents did expire |
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| 20:21.51 | _4dnan_ | Is there any way I can set a program to automatically relaunch after a crash ? |
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| 20:25.03 | userf | _4dnan_: you can write script checking if program running and restarting it when not |
| 20:25.22 | nido | _4dnan_: i believe you can write a systemd script which manages it; otherwise, assuming the program itself doesn't background, you can write a wrapper script which starts it in a loop, or otherwise the cron job userf suggests |
| 20:25.56 | _4dnan_ | Okay I will look into your suggestions, thank you. |
| 20:26.05 | nido | if possible, finding out why it crashes and fixing that is a better solution, but that isn't always possible |
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| 20:26.50 | Z1T1TTT | I'd like to mount an external drive to my debian |
| 20:26.52 | _4dnan_ | It's Pidgin, I can't really figure out why sadly. I've sent a bug report anyway. |
| 20:26.57 | eptalon | heyas, whats the name of the maven package? |
| 20:28.04 | Z1T1TTT | I'd like to mount an external drive to my debian. Can anyone guide me? |
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| 20:29.40 | nido | brontosaurusrex: seems political: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4923136/why-doesnt-firefox-support-mp3-file-format-in-audio |
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| 20:31.49 | Artemis3 | "The various MP3-related patents expire on dates ranging from 2007 to 2017 in the U.S." oh well for the 5 or so countries where that matters. |
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| 20:32.20 | Artemis3 | opus is better anyway |
| 20:32.38 | Artemis3 | even vorbis is |
| 20:32.48 | nido | not relevant when all people knows is mp3 |
| 20:33.19 | Artemis3 | i think nowdays people know aac more |
| 20:33.49 | nido | here people still catagorises an ipod of all things as an 'mp3 player' |
| 20:34.03 | Artemis3 | but its filled with aacs :3 |
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| 20:34.29 | nido | neece: "the ipods mp3 files are called aac" |
| 20:34.58 | Artemis3 | so we need opus players |
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| 20:35.03 | nido | "but they still play in windows media player so its an mp3 anyway" |
| 20:35.22 | Artemis3 | opus even got standard support |
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| 20:36.00 | Artemis3 | browsers support it :3 |
| 20:36.05 | Z1T1TTT | I plugin my external hdd and ebian does not see it |
| 20:36.30 | dune | Z1T1TTT: paste `dmesg` |
| 20:36.39 | Artemis3 | not in channel |
| 20:36.53 | dune | Artemis3: :> |
| 20:37.05 | nido | perhaps people should just know what 'an mp3 file' (neeces definition) actually is. Then again, people generally don't even know what a "file" is. |
| 20:37.13 | brontosaurusrex | hmm, well that doesn't exaplain why win version of firefox does work by passing the load to system decoders |
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| 20:37.30 | eptalon | nido: tell me what a file is? |
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| 20:37.45 | Artemis3 | hmm i think you can also add a gstreamer plugin thing |
| 20:38.09 | nido | Despite the fact everyone around here has an idea what mp3 is; the definition the word has is what technical people call an audio file. I doubt the use of agressively marketing the term 'opus' |
| 20:38.10 | Artemis3 | or mplayer, or vlc.. |
| 20:38.45 | brontosaurusrex | Artemis3: sure, its not a real usability problem, just an "academic" discussion |
| 20:38.48 | Artemis3 | just tell them like mp3 but better (and free) |
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| 20:39.13 | eptalon | nido: and if you get a container format, then things get even more complex. |
| 20:39.14 | Z1T1TTT | dune: http://paste.debian.net/120887/ |
| 20:39.14 | nido | eptalon: you are in #debian. I make some assumptions about you out of that which probably do not apply to the reason you ask me that question. Perhaps we should take this whole discussion to some ot channel though and keep #debian to its cause |
| 20:39.16 | dune | Artemis3: free like mp3-free? |
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| 20:40.15 | brontosaurusrex | a test page http://hpr.dogphilosophy.net/test/ |
| 20:40.19 | eptalon | nido: I run debian, and am atm pretty annoyed my vlc does not decode encrypted content. |
| 20:40.38 | teraflops | because vlc is a dead man wolking? |
| 20:40.45 | teraflops | zombie? |
| 20:40.59 | eptalon | teraflops: vlc is a versatile media player |
| 20:41.32 | teraflops | sure |
| 20:41.44 | Artemis3 | Z1T1TTT, is your hd powered? do you have to use external power or those double usb thingies? |
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| 20:42.13 | Z1T1TTT | Artemis3: doube. i'll plug in the 2nd one now |
| 20:42.18 | eptalon | Z1T1TTT: If you take an usb key, and plug it into that port, does your system see it? |
| 20:43.10 | Z1T1TTT | now it works! |
| 20:43.11 | Z1T1TTT | :D |
| 20:43.14 | Z1T1TTT | thank you guys |
| 20:43.19 | Artemis3 | underpowered ofc |
| 20:43.23 | nido | eptalon: sounds like something in the decryption process went bad. I know little about vlc or its decrption algorithms though |
| 20:43.48 | eptalon | nido: there is a libdvdcss which I can't find. |
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| 20:45.04 | SynrG | !libdvdcss |
| 20:45.05 | dpkg | libdvdcss is a free software library for unscrambling <CSS>-encrypted DVDs, not to be confused with <DeCSS>. It is not distributed by Debian due to legal concerns. To acquire, see http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html for repository and APT signing key information, then install the libdvdcss2 package. |
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| 20:45.38 | nido | eptalon: https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs : "libdvdcss2 is not available in the official Debian repositories. Details on where to get libdvdcss2 from are described at ..." see link on that page |
| 20:45.48 | dune | Z1T1TTT: ;-) |
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| 20:47.23 | eptalon | nido: thx |
| 20:48.04 | nido | eptalon: you're welcome. |
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| 20:59.10 | Z1T1TTT | /dev/sdb1 * 2048 185921535 92959744 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT |
| 20:59.34 | centrx | that's some nice hard drive right there |
| 20:59.35 | Z1T1TTT | how should i type the command to mount it? sudo mount -t ...... ? |
| 21:00.06 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, -t ntfs |
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| 21:00.16 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, apt-get install ntfs-3g for better NTFS support |
| 21:00.18 | Brigo | Z1T1TTT, sudo mount -t nfts /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
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| 21:01.31 | Z1T1TTT | not working , look... http://paste.debian.net/120892/ |
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| 21:01.57 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, maybe it's this "HPFS" or "exFAT" |
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| 21:02.28 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, also try again with ntfs-3g installed |
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| 21:03.08 | Alive | Hi Debiants |
| 21:03.08 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: I actually want to wipe this hdd |
| 21:03.13 | nido | "NTFS signature is missing." implies it is not actually ntfs |
| 21:03.41 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, if you want to wipe it, just do that without mounting |
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| 21:03.47 | Alive | This is my probably 3rd time ever on irc |
| 21:03.58 | Z1T1TTT | ok |
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| 21:04.23 | Alive | Cool I'll make sure to check back in then. Looking forward to the times. Thanks for everything already |
| 21:04.34 | centrx | Wow |
| 21:04.36 | centrx | Good times |
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| 21:08.21 | Marezz | Hello everyone |
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| 21:09.15 | qwert | hi |
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| 21:09.33 | rn56 | I'm asking this in the mint support since I have LMDE but if anyone has any ideas on running down an issue with wine fonts hit me with it. http://goo.gl/pnEyBm (screenshot) I've installed MS ttf and not sure if its nvidia or wine or what. At least narrowing it down to know where to direct a report would help. |
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| 21:11.25 | Marezz | Can someone please tell me if Debian is getting security patches regularly for its stable branch/release? |
| 21:11.33 | centrx | Marezz, very |
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| 21:12.02 | centrx | verily |
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| 21:13.01 | centrx | !security |
| 21:13.01 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
| 21:13.18 | Marezz | Also, I have been reading about Iceweasel and Firefox. Besides branding, whats the difference? |
| 21:13.18 | Brigo | rn56, LMDE is not supported here. |
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| 21:13.45 | Brigo | Marezz, only the name and the logo |
| 21:13.50 | Marezz | centrx, I am trying to use Debian with free software only (the Richard Stallman way :D) |
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| 21:14.15 | centrx | Marezz, The only difference with Iceweasel is trademark/branding |
| 21:14.34 | qwert | I met Richard Stallman in my city 2 years ago :) i found him "weird" |
| 21:14.38 | Marezz | I've read that Debian does security patches for Iceweasel too |
| 21:14.55 | rn56 | Brigo: yes I know this, I came here looking for mint channel, found it on spotchat.net via dpkg bot. Doesn't hurt to ask if you don't know you can just disregard, if you do know about the issue you can respond outside the channel. duh |
| 21:14.57 | centrx | Marezz, Iceweasel is kept up to date with the ESR release |
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| 21:15.31 | asher1 | Hello |
| 21:15.39 | asher1 | i need please about install |
| 21:15.53 | asher1 | this right install in debian? |
| 21:15.55 | asher1 | apt-get install libgeoip1 libgeoip-dev |
| 21:16.06 | Brigo | rn56, the mint package are different from debian's ones, so i can know what they do with them and so i cannot help you |
| 21:16.11 | centrx | asher1, yes |
| 21:16.16 | rn56 | asher1: yes, that is how you install |
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| 21:16.41 | qwert | i want to try to move to linux but i can't decide if debian or fedora... can someone please explain me the main differences? |
| 21:16.59 | Marezz | centrx, Is this true? "One advantage of iceweasel is external security fixes." |
| 21:17.01 | asher1 | this no |
| 21:17.05 | asher1 | work what i need |
| 21:17.34 | centrx | Marezz, If you install software that does not come from the Debian stable repository, then you would need to handle security updates yourself. |
| 21:17.36 | Z1T1TTT | if it says fs "linux" then what type it is? |
| 21:17.47 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, ext2/3/4 |
| 21:17.59 | Marezz | centrx, 100% Debian default stable repository |
| 21:18.12 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: here... http://paste.debian.net/120895/ |
| 21:18.12 | asher1 | someone? |
| 21:18.16 | rn56 | Brigo: you're a regular genius :-P.. the packages are directly from the debian repo, testing actually.. the ones concerned with this issue. Like I said, the matter of supporting it in here is 1) curtosy to others and 2) knowledge. I you don't dwell on it when you don't know, it doesn't interrupt the flow of this channel, if you don't know you don't say anything. That solves both issues. if you do, you help outside #debian, everybody's |
| 21:18.27 | centrx | Marezz, Right, so you have no option to use "Firefox" from that, only iceweasel, which gets security updates |
| 21:18.28 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: how should i mount it |
| 21:18.48 | centrx | dpkg, tell asher1 about ask |
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| 21:19.51 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, fdisk /dev/sdb |
| 21:19.53 | asher1 | whatt |
| 21:19.56 | asher1 | is this bot |
| 21:19.58 | Marezz | centrx, Yes, I use only Iceweasel and I am concerned about its security updates. From what I've read on the internet, they come directly from Debian and not Mozilla? |
| 21:20.05 | asher1 | someone please can tell to me how i run this |
| 21:20.09 | asher1 | apt-get install libgeoip1 libgeoip-dev |
| 21:20.12 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, fdisk acts on disk devices, like /dev/sdb, mount acts on partitions, like /dev/sdb1 |
| 21:20.19 | centrx | asher1, from a command-line terminal |
| 21:20.25 | centrx | asher1, yes, dpkg is a bot |
| 21:20.48 | Brigo | rn56, the problem may be an bad interaction with other mint package, so the source of the package is not enough. Testing packages are not support here, only stables is. And i only was trying to be polite. I really sorry if i make you lost your time. |
| 21:20.48 | centrx | Marezz, Most security updates come from upstream |
| 21:21.07 | asher1 | :S |
| 21:21.11 | centrx | Marezz, In the case of iceweasel, Debian uses the new ESR release that Mozilla releases when there is a security update |
| 21:21.13 | asher1 | i write from puty |
| 21:21.16 | asher1 | y |
| 21:21.26 | centrx | asher1, That should work, after you have logged in. Is there an error message? |
| 21:21.32 | asher1 | yes |
| 21:21.37 | asher1 | but this i franch |
| 21:21.43 | asher1 | and i dont know frnach |
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| 21:21.56 | centrx | that may be difficult |
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| 21:22.14 | centrx | asher1, are you installing as the root user? You need to be root to apt-get install software |
| 21:22.18 | Marezz | I am just hoping that it's safe to browse the web with "older" version of Iceweasel |
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| 21:22.22 | centrx | asher1, (system administrator) |
| 21:22.31 | asher1 | i in root |
| 21:22.37 | centrx | Marezz, It is not safe to browse without browser security updates |
| 21:22.47 | asher1 | i try doing this and i after try configure |
| 21:23.11 | Marezz | centrx, Am I getting them following only vanilla Debian stable repo? |
| 21:23.16 | centrx | asher1, try pasting the result at paste.debian.net |
| 21:23.23 | centrx | Marezz, You need a line for security.debian.org |
| 21:23.26 | centrx | dpkg, tell Marezz about security |
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| 21:23.44 | centrx | Marezz, take out the "contrib non-free" to only use free software |
| 21:23.57 | rn56 | Brigo: right well when someone mentions they know this isn't the mint support, and doesn't ask more than once, if you don't know, you should probably avoid the debate about scope of this channel.. I'm gonna drop it, I just was letting you know so you can better support debian here and maybe even learn to help others with non-debian specific issues in a way that doesn't interrupt channel flow. |
| 21:24.24 | Marezz | centrx, Ahh, thanks. I was about to ask you about that :) |
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| 21:25.14 | Brigo | !tell rn56 about mint |
| 21:25.27 | Brigo | rn56, i hope this helps you :) |
| 21:25.57 | Z1T1TTT | ok so Id like to mount the external hdd. http://paste.debian.net/120899/ |
| 21:26.17 | Z1T1TTT | how should i do it |
| 21:26.25 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
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| 21:27.12 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 21:27.12 | rn56 | Brigo: yea thats more useful.. thats the FIRST thing I did before I even asked the question. been doing support here since this channel began literally. thanks though. I'm already talking about it in #linuxmint-help on spotchat and heading to #winehq on freenode |
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| 21:27.48 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, -t ext4 probably |
| 21:28.22 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: mount: wrong fs type |
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| 21:28.36 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, You may have a partition without a filesystem |
| 21:28.53 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: yes, what should i do then |
| 21:29.04 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, Something like: mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 |
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| 21:29.40 | Brigo | Z1T1TTT, are the external hdd empty? |
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| 21:30.10 | centrx | he just cleared the partition table with fdisk and created a new "linux" partition, is the stage I think |
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| 21:30.17 | Z1T1TTT | Brigo: yes |
| 21:30.22 | Marezz | centrx, Sorry to bother you, what's the best way to edit "/etc/apt/sources.list"? |
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| 21:30.36 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: it worked i think its mounted, how do i check |
| 21:30.44 | centrx | Marezz, your favorite text editor (not word processor) |
| 21:30.53 | Brigo | and will you want to share the disk with windows computer or any media like a tv? |
| 21:30.57 | dune | Z1T1TTT: try df -h |
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| 21:31.14 | dawin | hi fooks |
| 21:31.19 | centrx | what did you just call me |
| 21:31.26 | dawin | how do i check the temperature on my linux server? |
| 21:31.34 | Marezz | centrx, Currently don't have one installed, there was an integrated one via terminal I believe.. |
| 21:31.44 | centrx | dawin, install lm-sensors and then run "sensors" command |
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| 21:32.12 | centrx | Marezz, nano is the default easy solution, it's like pico |
| 21:32.16 | Z1T1TTT | dune: yeap mounted |
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| 21:32.44 | Marezz | centrx, My apologies, I noticed I have gedit |
| 21:32.49 | Marezz | Will use that one |
| 21:32.53 | Z1T1TTT | but why cant i browse to it via file manager? |
| 21:32.53 | centrx | ok yeah |
| 21:33.05 | dawin | centrx: thanks |
| 21:33.22 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, you mounted it on /mnt, so that's where it is, looking and acting like a normal directory |
| 21:33.59 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: oh ok thx |
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| 21:34.34 | centrx | It is mounted, as the filesystem rides the device like a steed |
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| 21:36.08 | Z1T1TTT | centrx: i tried to paste a picture there, it gives me the permission denied thing |
| 21:36.34 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, if you mounted it as root without any options, it is only writable by root |
| 21:36.49 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, If you are going to be using this device on your computer a lot, add a definition to it in /etc/fstab |
| 21:37.07 | centrx | Z1T1TTT, set up a new directory to mount it on, add the "user" option so users can write to it |
| 21:37.23 | centrx | e.g. |
| 21:37.29 | centrx | /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ ext4 user,noauto |
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| 21:38.12 | Z1T1TTT | ok thx centrx |
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| 21:39.06 | Marezz | strange, I cant add my user to sudoers.. |
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| 21:40.27 | jolt | Marezz: adduser <user> sudo |
| 21:40.30 | jolt | and it's done. |
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| 21:40.39 | jolt | Marezz: But you hve to logout/in |
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| 21:41.07 | Marezz | jolt, ahh thanks |
| 21:41.37 | jolt | There is probably some command to enforce it directly, but that is how I do it |
| 21:42.02 | rn56 | visudo is how you do it |
| 21:42.38 | rn56 | but your method is simpler.. hah.. the sudoers file is not for beginners |
| 21:42.48 | jolt | rn56: The sudo group is already part of sudoers, so why not |
| 21:43.03 | jolt | rn56: Probably one of the most confusing ones for a newbie |
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| 21:43.14 | rn56 | jolt: yeah.. and sudoers manpage looks like it was directed by M Night Shalyman |
| 21:43.17 | jolt | ...still is for me after 15 years of linux |
| 21:43.22 | jolt | rn56: Haha |
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| 21:44.18 | hooligan321 | hrm the session and startup thingy is not reliably starting my applications |
| 21:44.52 | Marezz | jolt, Just wanted to let you know it worked, thank you :) |
| 21:45.51 | jolt | Marezz: np! |
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| 21:49.14 | Marezz | centrx, I just opened /etc/apt/sources.list. "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 21:49.14 | Marezz | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" is already in there :) |
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| 21:51.19 | t4nk336 | hi |
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| 21:56.17 | dawin | my /etc/apt/sources.list says |
| 21:56.18 | dawin | http://pastebin.com/gL6Q44GU |
| 21:56.27 | dawin | is this normal? |
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| 22:01.40 | centrx | dawin, yes |
| 22:01.53 | centrx | dawin, You may want to use http.debian.net as your mirror (a mirror redirector) |
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| 22:07.47 | slbtc | so I couldn't get the debian CD to run but I'm back on ubuntu desktop trying to do this again |
| 22:07.59 | slbtc | still trying to dual boot debian with windows 8.1 |
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| 22:08.32 | slbtc | how do I find out where I installed debian? |
| 22:08.46 | Somelauw | Is it possible to do a kernel upgrade without version conflicts etc? |
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| 22:09.00 | slbtc | I did gdisk -l dev/sda would it be a basic partition or empty space? |
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| 22:09.45 | slbtc | I know the EFI system partion is sda2 but I need to mount the root partion also |
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| 22:23.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 22:23.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | how do i make a sha-2 ssl key ? |
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| 22:23.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | my webpage is reporting a sha-1 and chrome/google is depreceating this eventually i want them gone anyways |
| 22:28.13 | rudi_s | Eryn_1983_FL: AFAIK should the latest ssl use sha-256 by default. But I'm not 100% sure. |
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| 22:29.15 | slbtc | can someone help me? I'm trying to reinstall grub with the command apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi it comes back with "Can not write log, openpty failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) |
| 22:29.48 | slbtc | this is for dual booting debian with windows 8.1 and I have to do it on ubuntu desktop |
| 22:30.15 | slbtc | I can't use the debian live CD windows 8.1 isn't allowing me to |
| 22:30.28 | slbtc | it just says it can't be used |
| 22:30.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | i used the ssleaf.conf file the 'easy way' to make a self signed key |
| 22:30.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | is my config ok? |
| 22:31.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/GcjS |
| 22:31.30 | slbtc | and I know I mounted the partitions correctly |
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| 22:31.57 | slbtc | I mounted /dev/sda8 and then /dev/sda2 for the efi boot |
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| 22:32.19 | rudi_s | Eryn_1983_FL: Check the result. |
| 22:32.26 | slbtc | I'm following this video and I'm getting that error |
| 22:33.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | how |
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| 22:34.02 | rudi_s | Eryn_1983_FL: Look at the resulting certificates. |
| 22:35.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | um they are just keys no txt readable in them |
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| 22:37.27 | rudi_s | Eryn_1983_FL: gnutls certtool -i <path/to/cert from the gnutls-bin makes them readable in a good way IMHO. |
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| 22:38.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok ik see this in my openssl.conf file |
| 22:38.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | digests = md5, sha1 # Acceptable message digests (mandatory) |
| 22:38.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | bad bad i want to0 cry if this is where it is set |
| 22:38.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | its suing md5 or sha1 |
| 22:38.59 | rudi_s | Well, yeah, those suck. |
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| 22:39.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | sobs on the floor |
| 22:39.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | nonono |
| 22:39.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | what should i change it to 256? |
| 22:40.18 | slbtc | I can't even use vmware because it's giving me an error I wish I could just remove windows 8 and install windows 7 |
| 22:40.27 | slbtc | I hate windows 8 |
| 22:40.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | :) |
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| 22:41.57 | slbtc | I'm about to give up on installing debian.. |
| 22:42.01 | slbtc | it's impossible.. |
| 22:42.14 | Somelauw | it can't be that hard |
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| 22:43.13 | slbtc | Somelauw: yes it is! I can't install grub so I can't move any further |
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| 22:43.34 | slbtc | Somelauw: it says the partition isn't mounted but I mounted it already! |
| 22:43.48 | slbtc | Somelauw: I tried mounting it again it says it's already mounted |
| 22:44.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont got the gnutls app |
| 22:44.48 | slbtc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 <------- I'm following these instructions but the last part isn't working for me |
| 22:45.09 | slbtc | I'm required to go to ubuntu desktop and reinstall grub because debian live CD doesn't work |
| 22:45.25 | Somelauw | start gparted and check if it's mounted |
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| 22:45.39 | slbtc | so I had to put the sources.list on to ubuntu update it then reinstall grub. ok |
| 22:45.44 | Somelauw | maybe it is mounted under a different name |
| 22:45.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | did you seperate you partitions into like / /usr/ var /boot? did you mount asll of those too? |
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| 22:46.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | the way i did it last time was use the super grub cd and its mounts and boots me into system that way |
| 22:46.53 | slbtc | the only ones I mounted was sda8 and sda2 which is the efi grub boot loader |
| 22:46.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | then i did a grub command from root cli like update-grub |
| 22:47.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | ewww efi |
| 22:47.03 | slbtc | sda8 is where I installed debian |
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| 22:47.20 | slbtc | well that's the only way it'll work dual booting with windows 8.1 |
| 22:47.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | dont know then |
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| 22:47.32 | slbtc | this is why I hate windows 8.1 |
| 22:47.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | atleast you hate window not linux, |
| 22:47.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | windows |
| 22:47.55 | slbtc | but I don't have a choice my dad uses the laptop I'm trying to dual boot debian on |
| 22:48.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 22:48.06 | slbtc | he needs windows to work on it |
| 22:48.12 | hooligan321 | hrm the session and startup thingy is not reliably starting my applications :( |
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| 22:48.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | well, why dont you boot from a vm in windows or a customizable usb live cd for now |
| 22:48.44 | slbtc | unless I can just install a hacked version of windows 7 last time I did that though it was a broken key and made it a free trial for only a number of days |
| 22:48.47 | Somelauw | the only thing i like about windows is that i don't have wireless issues when using it |
| 22:49.03 | slbtc | I tried I can't use vmware either it says errror interior error |
| 22:49.30 | slbtc | I installed the vmware on to my external hard drive. I tried to uninstall it but it says there was a missing value or something |
| 22:49.43 | slbtc | repairing gave me the same error |
| 22:49.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | try virtualbox they are owned by oracle but are decent |
| 22:50.13 | slbtc | but virtualbox works better on linux |
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| 22:50.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | well aslong as it works, he has something to use and learn from |
| 22:51.18 | Somelauw | for vmware to work, 'virtualization' sometimes needs to be enabled in bios |
| 22:51.33 | slbtc | ah. |
| 22:51.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 22:51.59 | Somelauw | and for virtualbox as well by the way |
| 22:52.00 | slbtc | well gparted says fat32 /mnt/boot/efi and ext4 /mnt are mounted |
| 22:52.23 | slbtc | well I'll try virtual box I guess |
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| 22:56.17 | slbtc | not a fan of ubuntu either anyway they spy by sending IP addresses and data like your log files of searches to google and amazon |
| 22:56.26 | slbtc | and it's really buggy |
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| 22:57.53 | zh | if i have wheezy-backports in sources list will i need wheezy and wheezy-updates? are they all different things? |
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| 23:00.20 | Brigo | zh, yes |
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| 23:02.46 | Somelauw | slbtc: lmde2 will be based on wheezy, but it's probably just their gui frontend added to it |
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| 23:03.25 | Brigo | !tell zh about backports |
| 23:03.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok i sm confused guys |
| 23:03.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am |
| 23:03.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=thrace-lan.info |
| 23:04.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | my thing says sha1 still i made it redo it but it still sha1 wtf |
| 23:04.29 | zh | Brigo backports i read it alredy |
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| 23:05.05 | Brigo | zh in wheezy there are 20.000 packages, in backports may be 100 or so. |
| 23:05.50 | Brigo | zh then you need wheezy for those 20.000 packages, and backport (may be) for those 100 you could need. |
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| 23:06.29 | Brigo | wheezy-updates is for other stuff which changes all the time like virus dabatabases |
| 23:06.37 | Brigo | s/which/like |
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| 23:15.23 | Somelauw | !tell me about updates |
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| 23:24.09 | codekK | Hi, i need some help. Today, i upgrade my system and when i reboot it i have some problems. I didnt have icons and i cant see images. Im on Debian Jessie with Xfce . Some tips??? |
| 23:24.24 | Somelauw | My issue with wireless is as follows. For the first 15 minutes wireless works perfectly. Then it suddenly disconnects. After that I get in a stage where I can run "sudo service network-manager restart" to make it connect for 1 minute after which it reconnects. Finally I get into a stage in which it is no longer possible to connect to make any wireless connection until I reboot completely. |
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| 23:24.31 | Lildirt | Why does Debian come preinstalled |
| 23:24.31 | Lildirt | with |
| 23:24.33 | Lildirt | Java 7 |
| 23:24.40 | Lildirt | I mean Java 6 |
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| 23:25.04 | Lildirt | Who honestly thought this was a good idea x.x |
| 23:25.16 | slbtc | now virtualbox is giving me problems |
| 23:25.43 | slbtc | Lildirt: for NSA spyware? |
| 23:25.54 | Lildirt | slbtc: wat |
| 23:26.14 | slbtc | Lildirt: =x look up PRISM |
| 23:26.18 | Lildirt | I mean |
| 23:26.26 | Lildirt | Why does it come with Java 6, instead of Java 7? |
| 23:26.28 | Lildirt | It's annoying. |
| 23:26.41 | slbtc | I don't know |
| 23:26.57 | Lildirt | Now I literally cannot get my terminal to use Java 7 for "java". |
| 23:27.08 | Lildirt | and I want to jump off a cliff. |
| 23:27.15 | slbtc | I had the option to install debian (64 bit) now it's only letting me install debian (32 bit) |
| 23:27.33 | slbtc | I'm having too many problems on windows 8.1 |
| 23:27.41 | slbtc | I feel like smashing my dad's laptop with a hammer |
| 23:27.47 | Lildirt | Windows 8.1 is NSA-galore |
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| 23:28.05 | slbtc | I don't have a choice unless I can find a windows 7 CD hack that works |
| 23:28.11 | slbtc | last time I tried that the key expired |
| 23:28.18 | Lildirt | but frankly trying to run a single Java application is simplier 10-fold on Windows lol |
| 23:28.28 | codekK | Hi, i need some help. Today, i upgrade my system and when i reboot it i have some problems. I didnt have icons and i cant see images. Im on Debian Jessie with Xfce . Some tips??? |
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| 23:28.32 | slbtc | yeah I know |
| 23:28.46 | Somelauw | Lildirt: just apt-get install openjdk-7, then run something like update-java-alternatives and that's it more or less |
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| 23:29.02 | Lildirt | Already have OpenJDK 7 installed. |
| 23:29.03 | slbtc | well my dad needs windows to work he'd be fine with 7 but I can't find a hacked version I can trust |
| 23:29.20 | slbtc | I have the windows 7 CD somewhere but even then you have to buy the key |
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| 23:29.43 | slbtc | and I don't think windows 8.1 will allow you to boot from a CD it stopped me from booting from debian |
| 23:29.56 | MrFrood | !offtopic |
| 23:29.56 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 23:29.59 | slbtc | even with legacy and secure boot turned off |
| 23:30.06 | Somelauw | pretty sure there was something like update-java-alternatives, but i forgot its name |
| 23:30.22 | Somelauw | you can update-alternatives one by one, but that's annoying |
| 23:30.25 | paxcoder | Perhaps it'd be useful if a bot in here took factoids in the format <problem> ":" <solution>, and then provide fulltext search for those. So whenever your problem is solved in the channel, you could summarize it via /msg dpkg to <problem>: <solution>, and then others could search for it before asking. Publishing these on the web would also make it available via Google. |
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| 23:30.43 | slbtc | I can't remember how to import the debian iso image into virtualbox |
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| 23:31.05 | slbtc | is it just file > import? |
| 23:31.47 | Somelauw | slbtc: not sure, but i think it will keep working after it expires, it will have some limitations, like you won't be able to change wallpaper anymore |
| 23:31.48 | mtn | codekK: did you notice if anything was being removed during the upgrade? also, jessie support is at #debian-next on oftc.net, as per the topic |
| 23:31.52 | paxcoder | Actually, maybe "to" is too narrow still. Maybe just a freeform chunk of text. |
| 23:32.01 | paxcoder | *"to"-form |
| 23:32.13 | codekK | mtn, i didnt see nothing. Can i see it now? |
| 23:32.14 | slbtc | or create new but then it doesn't give you the option to put the iso image in. when I started up debian on the virtualbox it said something about accelleration |
| 23:32.23 | centrx | slbtc, I would say set up the ISO file as a device accessible to virtualbox |
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| 23:33.11 | paxcoder | mtn, last time people said they didn't mind "-next" questions in here. Maybe it's just abrotman? |
| 23:33.13 | slbtc | centrx, I see. |
| 23:33.17 | mtn | codekK: you should be able to find the logs in /var/log/apt |
| 23:33.31 | codekK | mtn, t |
| 23:33.32 | codekK | mtn, tty |
| 23:33.39 | mtn | paxcoder: I didn't say I minded it, but obviously there is a better place for such questions ;) |
| 23:33.47 | centrx | paxcoder, it's fine here, but you might get more relevant knowledgeable people in #debian-next |
| 23:34.01 | MrFrood | Somelauw: If one is using a desktop system there is galternatives |
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| 23:34.18 | paxcoder | centrx, well technically, it's OT ("by abrotman") |
| 23:34.51 | centrx | I'm not sure who said what, but it's not a big deal |
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| 23:35.00 | centrx | not like making fun of Australians |
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| 23:36.00 | centrx | This channel can get very busy sometimes |
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| 23:36.40 | Somelauw | My issue with wireless is as follows. For the first 15 minutes wireless works perfectly. Then it suddenly disconnects. After that I get in a stage where I can run "sudo service network-manager restart" to make it connect for 1 minute after which it reconnects. Finally I get into a stage in which it is no longer possible to connect to make any wireless connection until I reboot completely. |
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| 23:37.13 | WizardGed | yeah wait until an announcement about jessie comes out. |
| 23:37.26 | WizardGed | text flying past a mile a minute |
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| 23:38.56 | WizardGed | Somelauw: it could be a great number of things. do other devices on your network do this? |
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| 23:39.43 | Somelauw | WizardGed: only this laptop(or ultrabook) has the problem and it happens on at least 2 different wireless networks |
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| 23:45.31 | voxadam | Is there any way to move a file from one location to another then create link back to the location where the file originally came from? |
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| 23:46.23 | paxcoder | voxadam, why do I think you know the answer to this question? |
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| 23:48.10 | paxcoder | Unstructured factoids (no title; for fulltext search), who's with me? |
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| 23:48.45 | voxadam | I checked the mv manpage. |
| 23:49.06 | voxadam | I found no mention of mv. |
| 23:49.07 | voxadam | er.. |
| 23:49.10 | voxadam | link |
| 23:49.33 | machdp | night everyone |
| 23:49.48 | voxadam | I would use a hard link but in this case it bridges to file systems' |
| 23:49.51 | MrFrood | voxadam: perhaps you should read the ln man page |
| 23:49.51 | paxcoder | voxadam, remember the unix philosophy. You need a mv+ln combo. You can save it as a script to /usr/bin though. |
| 23:50.11 | paxcoder | voxadam, in that case ln will suffice |
| 23:50.32 | paxcoder | But I find it odd that you know about hard links but not ln. |
| 23:50.42 | voxadam | is an odd person. |
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| 23:51.07 | cafuego | no need for a hard link anyway |
| 23:51.12 | voxadam | I blame it on the fact that mad cow disease is slowly eating holes in my brain. |
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| 23:52.11 | WizardGed | Somelauw: sorry about the pause, can you give me a rundown of the wifi adapter info if usb type lsusb at terminal and look for info pertaining to wireless if pci type lspci and do the same. |
| 23:52.39 | machdp | i have debian on macbook with gnome 3 but when left alt key is pressed mouse pointer (external mouse) not moves, trackpad works properly. Any idea? |
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| 23:55.43 | Somelauw | WizardGed: 'Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0' |
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| 23:56.39 | *** join/#debian dubtech (~dubtech@deep.dubtech.no) |
| 23:56.42 | *** join/#debian shibboleth (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 23:57.27 | WizardGed | Somelauw: 1st, very nice network adapter 2nd give me a second debian might not have perfectly up to date firmware for that nic |
| 23:58.04 | *** join/#debian mspe (~mspe@2205ds5-od.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 23:58.20 | *** join/#debian hitest (~hitest@unaffiliated/hitest) |
| 23:59.14 | *** join/#debian weems_ (~frodo@71-8-90-26.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 23:59.44 | WizardGed | Somelauw: can you type uname -r for me |
