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| 00:14.15 | Otyg | cekano: no, just a mass of nick-changes. |
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| 00:14.48 | Otyg | mallx: do you got networkmanager installed? |
| 00:15.31 | mallxs | Otyg: NO i disabled it with a exit 0 in the rc file |
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| 00:18.12 | parakeit | hi guys, um...newbie question. How do I get free alternative to flash player on debian? I am running powerpc debian |
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| 00:20.52 | mallxs | parakeit: did you try chomium or Google chome |
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| 00:22.43 | Otyg | mallxs: one way (people might hang me now for even suggest it) is to make your changes to /etc/resolv.conf and then do chmod +i /etc/resolv.conf. The better way is to put your configuration in interfaces after the dhcp-part; something like iface ethX inet\n dns-nameservers w.x.y.z |
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| 00:24.36 | jmcnaught | parakeit: as far as I know there is no official flash plugin for PPC. You could try Gnash, but honestly youtube with html5 will probably work better. Another one of the downsides of proprietary formats :/ |
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| 00:26.01 | OomElvis | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-atheros <-- would that be ok for debian testing? or is it only for stable? |
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| 00:27.07 | mallxs | Otyg: Both are a good idea lol, but i also have a local dns running and for that i have a domain and search line in my resolv.conf |
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| 00:27.28 | Otyg | mallxs: yet another option are to hack around in dhclient.conf... not sure what to poke at but "something something domain-name-servers w.x.y.z" somewhere, "man dhclient.conf" might give some hints (just seen others do that) |
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| 00:28.03 | mallxs | Otyg: thx i will read into that |
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| 00:30.52 | Otyg | mallxs: do you got a local dhcp? In that case it can be easier to make the fix in that part; just make the dhcp throw out the "right" stuff like local domain and dns ;) |
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| 00:44.21 | rawfodog | im trying to install a game. I get this error when I launch it : |
| 00:44.21 | Otyg | mallxs: ah, in that case I suggest poking in dhclient.conf and/or "dns-nameservers" in interfaces (chmod +i was merely a joke... but it does work, and will get you a bad headache the day you want to change it) |
| 00:44.25 | rawfodog | Error loading Python lib 'libpython2.7.so.1.0': /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/windows/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Unity of Command/bin/libpython2.7.so.1.0) |
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| 00:47.37 | cekano | rawfodog: is your game being distributed for ubuntu? |
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| 00:55.43 | rawfodog | cekano, steamos (which is built on wheezy) |
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| 00:56.36 | Otyg | rawfodog: installing multiarch might help you |
| 00:56.56 | rawfodog | How ?? |
| 00:56.59 | cekano | rawfodog: most-probably your game has been built depending on a newer version of glibc |
| 00:57.04 | rawfodog | yes |
| 00:57.09 | rawfodog | thats what it looks like |
| 00:57.28 | rawfodog | So I guess I'm screwed lol |
| 00:58.35 | cekano | hell no, there is a way to get a newer version of glibc, just you need to add the relevant packages from testing |
| 00:58.41 | jmcnaught | rawfodog: there is a #steamOS channel (it's not supported here despite being based on wheezy) |
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| 01:00.08 | jmcnaught | adding libc6 from testing/jessie to a stable/wheezy system isn't a very good idea. For one thing it won't get security updates any more (because the libc6 version will always be newer than any wheezy security update versions). Might as well go full jessie if you want to use a newer libc6 |
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| 01:01.54 | cekano | well, there is no "perfect" solution here, but I've tried that myself, and works quite well |
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| 01:02.31 | cekano | *it |
| 01:03.03 | jmcnaught | cekano: well please don't recommend mixing suites here. See https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_basic_precautions and https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian for more info :) |
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| 01:07.53 | cekano | jmcnaught: of course what I'm saying is just a quick and dirty fix, which might be useful if nothing else works. |
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| 01:09.44 | jmcnaught | cekano: quick and dirty fixes lead to more stuff breaking down the line. I understand you just want to help, but recommending people install libc6 from testing is bad advice. |
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| 01:44.25 | masterlock | how can i change my ip address with a shell script? |
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| 01:54.57 | Otyg | masterlock: #!/bin/sh \n dhclient <interface> |
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| 01:56.00 | Otyg | masterlock: jokes aside, how do you want to change your ip address more precisely? |
| 01:56.29 | masterlock | oh sorry, i want to set a static address |
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| 01:56.43 | masterlock | you see i have a base debian template that i am deploying onto kvm |
| 01:57.00 | masterlock | and then i want a script to run on boot to change the preset static ip address |
| 01:57.03 | masterlock | to one of my choice |
| 01:57.25 | masterlock | well not on boot, when i decide to run it |
| 01:58.03 | masterlock | its so i can rapid provision my VMs for testing stuff |
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| 01:59.52 | masterlock | this is my script so far but i seem to be having problems http://pastebin.com/epMP7NcG |
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| 02:05.11 | Otyg | masterlock: why not squash varip1 and varip2 and skip varfullip? |
| 02:05.45 | masterlock | im a noob |
| 02:06.26 | masterlock | + i just saw that VARUSRFULLIP should be $VARIP1$VARUSRIP |
| 02:06.44 | Otyg | just saw that too :) |
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| 02:07.06 | masterlock | oh not much just derpin around on the computer :/ |
| 02:07.14 | Otyg | are a noob too so |
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| 02:08.42 | masterlock | you see i deploy the ovf |
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| 02:08.43 | masterlock | it boots up |
| 02:08.50 | masterlock | it has a static ip already |
| 02:09.06 | masterlock | then i want to ssh into it, run my script, reboot and have it come up with different ip and hostname |
| 02:09.13 | masterlock | probably should regen ssh stuff too |
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| 02:13.06 | Otyg | masterlock: ovf? |
| 02:13.35 | masterlock | open virtualzatio format |
| 02:13.45 | masterlock | its basically a virtual machine in a single file |
| 02:14.50 | masterlock | and then you can deploy it onto a hypervisor |
| 02:15.03 | masterlock | so i dont have to build a new OS every time |
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| 02:24.38 | Otyg | masterlock: my fasttrack are something like http://paste.debian.net/107228/ |
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| 02:25.37 | masterlock | that seems a lot more concise than mine |
| 02:26.02 | Otyg | quick and really dirty |
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| 02:26.51 | mn332 | i installed rsync to try and keep two external devices in sync, and i just ran a command that began to erase data on the target device even though it exists on the origin device. rsync -vas --delete -h -i /media/dev1/documents/ /media/dev2/ |
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| 02:28.44 | rryoumaa | mn332: did you forget the last component on the target? |
| 02:29.56 | rryoumaa | mn332: maybe it thinks the contents of documents needs to overwrite all of dev2 |
| 02:30.27 | Otyg | masterlock: I forgot the change hostname part though... but it follows the same scheme as the other things. |
| 02:30.44 | mn332 | oh i just figured it out. that stupid / in dev1/documents shouldn't be there |
| 02:31.01 | mn332 | the trailing slash |
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| 02:31.53 | rryoumaa | that's the worst ui decision part of the otherwise great rsync |
| 02:32.28 | hamiltont | just confirming: is it possible to post to linux.debian.* using Google Groups? |
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| 02:32.38 | atari314 | On wheezy, if its found that a given package has a breaking bug (unrelated to security), would it prolly be updated on wheezy-update or on security or only on the next point release? |
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| 02:33.18 | mn332 | rryoumaa: ya, it's a convenient tool otherwise, but --delete can be dangerous if everything isn't perfect |
| 02:33.21 | Otyg | masterlock: I forgot some other things too; "allow hotplug <interface>" (or if it should be "auto <interface>" or both) no when I read it... I blame it on the early hour and I'm going to bed now. nn |
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| 02:37.57 | masterlock | thx otyg |
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| 02:40.32 | Otyg | masterlock: no problems, hope my dirty-hack at least can point you in the right direction |
| 02:41.49 | jmcnaught | masterlock: have you checked out libguestfs-tools? It has a "virt-sysprep" command for things like changing hostname and deleting SSH hostkeys, and a "virt-edit" command for sed like substitution among other things. It directly modifies a VM's image file or LV |
| 02:42.58 | masterlock | no but that is interesting jmcnaught i will investigate this |
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| 02:45.15 | jmcnaught | masterlock: http://paste.debian.net/107229/ <--- here are some command I use to prepare a fresh VM for example |
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| 02:46.17 | masterlock | dang had to install 158mb of packages for that packages |
| 02:47.29 | jmcnaught | masterlock: yeah it's big.. a related tool is guestfish, which is a sort of interactive shell for working with guest images |
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| 02:51.13 | jmcnaught | masterlock: the way i use it at home for creating test VMs is I have an LVM LV with a fresh debian install on it, which I snapshot, modify with these tools, then use the "virt-install --import ..." command to create a new VM |
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| 02:59.01 | kushal2 | hello friends, I am on wheezy 7.4 and I just installed git. I'd like to be able to use git subtree. How can I get access to a newer version of git so I can use the subtree command? I have 1.7.10 and I believe subtree is available as of 1.7.11 |
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| 02:59.58 | jmcnaught | ,v git |
| 02:59.59 | judd | Package: git on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.0.0-2; sid: 1:2.0.0-2; experimental: 1:2.0.0+next.20140616-1 |
| 03:00.25 | jmcnaught | kushal2: ^^ it looks like Git 1.9.1 is in wheezy-backports. http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 03:00.33 | kushal2 | ah |
| 03:00.37 | kushal2 | thank you |
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| 03:02.20 | masterlock | im actually using esxi right now |
| 03:02.28 | masterlock | so i have it in an ovf |
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| 03:03.31 | jmcnaught | atari314: sometimes major problems with packages are fixed in a minor stable release (7.X for example). Have you looked at the bug reports for that package? |
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| 03:06.48 | kushal2 | I assume for wheezy I'd run apt-get -t wheezy-backports install git instead of squeezy, right? |
| 03:06.56 | atari314 | jmcnaught: I did, but wasn't listed there (prolly due to strict relation to specific hardware), the issue was brought from a security update (chromium 35.0.1916.153-1~deb7u1) |
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| 03:07.42 | jmcnaught | atari314: well it needs to be reported for it to be fixed :) |
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| 03:08.56 | jmcnaught | kushal2: not sure what squeezy is, but yes as per the instructions to install packages from wheezy-backports you use "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install git". Check them again if you're not sure |
| 03:09.17 | kushal2 | yeah, looks like it is working |
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| 03:10.39 | jmcnaught | masterlock: ahh.. well it wouldn't surprise me if esxi has some proprietary tools that work the same way as libguestfs (unless that's what this .ovf format is all about). Although it wouldn't surprise me if libguestfs can work with that format |
| 03:10.44 | l33794m3r | ok to be absolutely sure/safe I personally don't feel like I really need the linux image debug symbols? |
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| 03:12.22 | jmcnaught | l33794m3r: you don't need them unless you're debugging the kernel. I don't have them installed. |
| 03:12.31 | l33794m3r | ah ok I don't know why I got them |
| 03:12.52 | l33794m3r | I was compiling some kernel modules a long while ago to get some new drivers but I still have them and I don't know why I installed htem. Just wnated to be sure. |
| 03:12.55 | atari314 | jmcnaught: I know, but it's like the fourth time it happens between versions (guess it's due to the crazy release cycle of chromium). Would it be possible to blacklist chromium on security (while keeping all other packages)? |
| 03:13.36 | l33794m3r | My / is only 25GiB and handles the base debian system whereas home is different mainly do trying out btrfs and seeing 2.5GiB just sitting there doing nothing made me look at it funny. |
| 03:14.46 | somiaj | atari314: what is the major bug that needs to be reported? |
| 03:14.53 | jmcnaught | atari314: it's possible to put a hold on a package with aptitude. You could also use Iceweasel |
| 03:15.06 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell atari314 -about hold |
| 03:15.31 | somiaj | atari314: in the case of chromium since the standard security policy is to pull in a newer upstream version now, I would file the bug upstream and the fix will make it into debian eventually. |
| 03:15.37 | jmcnaught | atari314: suppressing security updates in a browser probably isn't a very good idea mine you... |
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| 03:16.50 | l33794m3r | also about chromium offtopic I know, but I've purposefully kept it behind a few releases due to them removing support for gnash and I use it as my side browser still hate them for that. Wish they did ESR releases. But anyway since I've got my answer I'd like to thank you all for the help. |
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| 03:17.12 | l33794m3r | have fun everyone and I hope you all have a nice night/day. |
| 03:17.52 | somiaj | l33794m3r: use iceweasel if you want to be able to still use the napi plugin interface. You can get flash in chorimum via peperflash but not other napi modules. |
| 03:17.53 | atari314 | somiaj: it's this recurring bug (https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=124569), since 2012 till now happens between some versions. |
| 03:18.25 | atari314 | jmcnaught: tks for the hold option, I'll try that. I know, but they keep breaking things. |
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| 03:57.04 | linuxguy101 | anyone know where you set the default permission levels for each user |
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| 04:15.24 | ArtVandalae | linuxguy101, permission levels for what? what are you trying to do? |
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| 04:29.08 | rryoumaa | umask |
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| 04:54.26 | linuxguy101 | ArtVandalae, i am trying to set the default permission levels for all users in home |
| 04:54.52 | linuxguy101 | to 077 |
| 04:55.37 | linuxguy101 | so when i create a new user acct it will be defaulted to that level for all other files |
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| 04:56.13 | ArtVandalae | yep, umask is the way to go; but I don't think it'll stop the user changing permissions for his/her files |
| 04:56.49 | linuxguy101 | what script file sets up the user default levels? |
| 04:57.08 | linuxguy101 | or did was that left out. |
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| 04:57.18 | linuxguy101 | i have been looking for a while now and i cant find it. |
| 04:57.27 | ArtVandalae | linuxguy101, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html |
| 04:57.28 | linuxguy101 | usually it is un the etc/bashrc |
| 04:58.08 | ArtVandalae | try /etc/profile too -- bashrc will only get sourced by a few shells (bash, being of them :) |
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| 05:02.48 | linuxguy101 | ArtVandalae, looks like /etc/bashrc is not even created |
| 05:02.53 | phogg | linuxguy101: man useradd |
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| 05:04.06 | linuxguy101 | phogg, man useradd does not allow for permission levels set as written for this process |
| 05:04.38 | linuxguy101 | Artemis3, looks like there is no centeral place for user permission levels in debian? |
| 05:04.44 | phogg | linuxguy101: Sounds more like you're asking for how to set the default mode of created home directories |
| 05:04.58 | linuxguy101 | phogg, correct |
| 05:05.29 | phogg | linuxguy101: see /etc/login.defs, or useradd's -K switch, and also look at /etc/skel/ -- the modes of those files should remain the same, only ownership changes |
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| 05:07.33 | phogg | linuxguy101: and it looks like pam_umask is the right place to configure a user's umask thereafter. Interesting. |
| 05:10.05 | linuxguy101 | that is odd |
| 05:10.33 | phogg | linuxguy101: why? |
| 05:11.22 | linuxguy101 | i am used to it being in the /etc/bashrc file |
| 05:12.02 | phogg | linuxguy101: read the comments in /etc/login.defs at the section talking about UMASK |
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| 05:22.45 | linuxguy101 | i set the /etc/login.defs to 077 and it had no effect on creating a new user account to a that level |
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| 05:23.17 | linuxguy101 | seems there is a problem with permission levels |
| 05:23.27 | linuxguy101 | with debian |
| 05:23.45 | linuxguy101 | and a proper documentation problem as well as to where this is actually set at |
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| 05:32.15 | fommil | hi all, since I updated jessie a few days ago, the power button on my desktop machine is no longer running the script that it used to. Any ideas if anything under the hood could have changed dramatically? |
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| 05:56.06 | Mountain_R | Hi everyone I wold like to improve the quality of the visualization, I have a eye problem and for some reason to me is much more relaxing to read on ubuntu or windows than debian, even if I love debian much more than others. I think is something about proprietary driver that ubuntu has and maybe debian not. I gave some command in the terminal to understand what proprietary drivers were in ubuntu 's video card driver so that I could try t |
| 05:56.06 | Mountain_R | o install the same on Debian. I have done this search trying to get more infos that I can about it. can someone help me? http://paste.debian.net/107231/ thanks |
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| 06:16.43 | fommil | Mountain_R: it's probably because debian has shockingly bad font setups by default. Try reading the section on anti-aliasing here https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts |
| 06:17.10 | fommil | subpixel hinting, I should say |
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| 06:47.05 | ryonaloli | hey, i'm wondering if my server may be compromsed somehow. according to rkhunter, dpkg's sha1 changed. the date it changed, i could not find anything in dpkg.log about dpkg being *updated* for any reason, and the *previous* sha1 is the same as another debian stable computer of mine which is not compromised |
| 06:48.05 | ryonaloli | but both computers, the server i'm worried about, and a known good install, should update at the same time, so there's no reason for them to have different hashes for dpkg, especially when there's no logs of the server's updating |
| 06:48.20 | fommil | that is concerning |
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| 06:49.42 | fommil | have you checked the debian .deb of the dpkg binary? |
| 06:49.43 | rryoumaa | ryonaloli: maybe library differences? |
| 06:49.55 | ryonaloli | rryoumaa: library differences? how would i tell |
| 06:49.57 | fommil | I mean, download it in an uncompromised machine and do an SHA1 |
| 06:50.02 | ryonaloli | i'm not compiling anything frmo source |
| 06:50.23 | ryonaloli | fommil: that's what i did already |
| 06:50.50 | rryoumaa | ryonaloli: dunno, seems unlikely but if you had frankendebian for one of them you might have different statically compiled libraries in dpkg |
| 06:50.51 | ryonaloli | i checked the sha1 on a computer which i *know* is safe (it's on my lan and serves only to handle backups) |
| 06:51.07 | ryonaloli | frankendebian? |
| 06:51.08 | rryoumaa | what are the shas? |
| 06:51.09 | fommil | ryonaloli: so you know the exact version of dpkg you have installed, and the SHA1 doesn't match the SHA downloaded from debian? |
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| 06:51.24 | ryonaloli | the good sha is e9e5841d3d1fc4c95ce794f95f579d8982bb589d |
| 06:51.35 | ryonaloli | for /usr/bin/dpkg |
| 06:51.40 | rryoumaa | that's good |
| 06:51.42 | fommil | you might have some data corruption problems |
| 06:52.24 | ryonaloli | that good sha is from the uncompromised machine |
| 06:52.38 | ryonaloli | fommil: the binary is the same size as previously, and it seems to run |
| 06:52.48 | fommil | what's the bad sha? |
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| 06:53.06 | ryonaloli | 44dea5dfb60347aec951768ef8d8ff630daedef6 |
| 06:53.56 | fommil | maybe try an xdelta on it and the original? |
| 06:54.17 | fommil | if it's one bit, you'll know its data corruption |
| 06:54.20 | ryonaloli | that would be a delta of the od output or something? |
| 06:54.35 | fommil | od? |
| 06:54.51 | ryonaloli | oh, apt-cache search shows it |
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| 06:55.42 | rryoumaa | does xdelta have human-readable output or would he | xd or something? |
| 06:55.53 | fommil | no idea, never used it. |
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| 06:56.39 | fommil | best do the delta on your uncorrupted machine, incase xdelta is also rooted ;-) |
| 06:56.40 | WombleWay | shots and geek hangout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySivN4fMIXw |
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| 06:57.36 | fommil | it'd be a pretty crappy rootkit if it didn't hide itself from sha1 and md5 |
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| 06:57.54 | fommil | rkhunter is pretty limited... it relies on people not thinking about that |
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| 06:58.15 | ryonaloli | the patchfile is 39kb |
| 06:58.24 | ryonaloli | er, the delta is |
| 06:58.36 | fommil | i'm guessing that's the size of the file more or less |
| 06:58.41 | ryonaloli | the file is 256kb |
| 06:58.48 | fommil | that sounds like you've got a totally different file then |
| 06:58.59 | ryonaloli | totally different? all but 39kb are the same |
| 06:59.18 | fommil | that is a lot more than I'd expect from a flipped bit |
| 06:59.38 | ryonaloli | /usr/bin/dpkg on the worrisome machine is 256kb, the /usr/bin/dpkg on a known good install is 256kb, and there's 39kb that's different. neither of those are compiled myself |
| 07:00.03 | fommil | that sounds concerning, if you are really sure the versions are identical |
| 07:00.12 | babilen | fommil: fwiw, "debsums -s" is a great way to find files with different checksums |
| 07:00.44 | ryonaloli | is AIDE any good on a server, or is it only good for offline scans from a live cd? |
| 07:01.43 | fommil | babilen: cool. that's great for finding corrupted files I guess |
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| 07:24.06 | Otyugh | If I want to focus apps instead of launching them if they are already up |
| 07:24.21 | Otyugh | should I use something like devilspie, or is there another way ? |
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| 07:28.06 | poeticrpm | Otyugh, that depends on the desktop environment. Youd prolly be better off cooking up a bash script using wmctrl and xdotool |
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| 07:35.01 | rrman | sorry im having trouble with switching network interfaces, i have eth0 and usb0 so i wanna use one of them in a terminal and another one in another one. is there any way to do this?? |
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| 07:36.01 | _odie | i'm using -stable atm with an i5 sandy bridge cpu. is it worth it to enable the i915_enable_rc6 kernel options which 'should' save power? I'm using the standard kernel 3.2+deb |
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| 07:37.47 | Shadow_7 | rrman: if the terminals will talk to different things you could doing some routing or firewall tricks |
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| 07:38.19 | rrman | Shadow_7: can plz you explain more? |
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| 07:39.14 | rozie | rrman: by terminal you mean command line (separate window)? so no, network devices are system wide |
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| 07:39.37 | rozie | you can tell application to use given iface (if app supports this) |
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| 07:40.16 | rozie | or you can use virtual machine and assign traffic from this to given iface (which is routing/firewall as Shadow_7 said) |
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| 07:40.26 | rrman | well is there anyway that i can connect to an ssh with usb0? |
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| 07:42.00 | _odie | rrman: i think you want a com-port |
| 07:42.16 | rozie | rrman: as said above. network settings are system wide. ssh does not use interface to reach its target, but routing |
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| 07:43.22 | rozie | if you make routing/firewall to given host by usb0, you can reach this host with ssh via that iface |
| 07:43.58 | rrman | wow ill work on that, thanks you guys |
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| 07:44.42 | Mountain_R | Hi everyone I wold like to improve the quality of the visualization, I have a eye problem and for some reason to me is much more relaxing to read on ubuntu or windows than debian, even if I love debian much more than others. I think is something about proprietary driver that ubuntu has and maybe debian not. I gave some command in the terminal to understand what proprietary drivers were in ubuntu 's video card driver so that I could try t |
| 07:44.42 | Mountain_R | o install the same on Debian. I have done this search trying to get more infos that I can about it. can someone help me? http://paste.debian.net/107231/ thanks! |
| 07:47.08 | babilen | Mountain_R: There is no proprietary driver for that GPU |
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| 07:47.59 | moein | I have problem after updating libc to sid version,Is there any way to fix it other than reinstallation? |
| 07:48.53 | babilen | Mountain_R: You might want to run "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" and choose "Autohinter", "Automatic", "No". It would also help if you could actually provide some information on what it is that makes it more relaxing. |
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| 07:49.45 | babilen | moein: unstable is supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net -- but then the last couple of libc6 uploads have been quite uneventful. |
| 07:50.03 | babilen | moein: But what is the problem? |
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| 07:54.13 | sigmatek | By any chance has anyone noticed that some window themes are not properly applied ? I suspect it might be a recent Qt update http://i.imgur.com/2Yg3KcS.png |
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| 07:56.24 | Mountain_R | babilen, it is mainly about reading on the webpages... on ubuntu they are more defined with a good focus and "hi resolution" I am trying to explain my perception when I read. On debian unfortunately i must strive more and the words are less focused. Maybe is not a problem for everyone but I have not a good eye vision |
| 07:56.53 | babilen | Mountain_R: And performing the steps that I just outlined doesn't change that? |
| 07:57.17 | Mountain_R | I will try now |
| 07:58.04 | Mountain_R | thanks |
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| 07:59.35 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_R: perhaps some screenshots to verify your eyes perception? But I suspect fonts since reading would imply text. Or the dpi is set differently. |
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| 08:01.00 | Mountain_R | Shadow_7, yes I will do a screenshot of both |
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| 08:36.55 | Mountain_r | babilen, I have tried with "Autohinter", "Automatic", "No" but it is not changed anything |
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| 08:39.18 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: did you check the dpi setting in about:config ? To match-ish the old I.E. font size it should be 96. But in days of old *nix defaulted to 75 or 100, I suspect some setting in that arena. Or some fonts that are not installed. |
| 08:40.09 | angezanetti | hey guys, i would like to add a subdonmain to my server. I added a ste-avaliable config; make a2ensite 1 change the /etc/hosts, but the subdomain still show the /var/www/index.html content. |
| 08:40.29 | angezanetti | I'm missing something in the apache conf ? |
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| 08:42.41 | Mountain_r | Shadow_7, it's set on 96 yes |
| 08:43.13 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: for both? |
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| 08:43.42 | Mountain_r | yes both the os |
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| 08:45.54 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: And I assume that xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi and msttcorefonts is installed. Might want some Terminus and neep fonts too if you do a lot of terminal stuff |
| 08:46.00 | Mountain_r | maybe there's some font missing or some driver |
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| 08:47.17 | Mountain_r | Shadow_7, I don't know what you mean, I am not a linux expert |
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| 08:48.17 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: or it could be simpler like the color depth in X is 16, not 24. |
| 08:48.44 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: apt-get install xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi msttcorefonts |
| 08:49.55 | Mountain_r | the words are skinnier here in debian |
| 08:50.33 | Mountain_r | even if is everything set like ubuntu, fonts etc. |
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| 08:51.40 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: and the font setting is? |
| 08:52.25 | Shadow_7 | Terminus 14 for me atm, but that's a pretty skinny font. There doesn't appear to be a neep font for armel |
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| 08:55.09 | Mountain_r | on the computer is droid sans 10 antialiasing enabled Slight + RGB + 96 but anyway I realize that it doesn't change anything on the browser but on everything else on the pc. I need an improvement on the browser visualization, not on the pc |
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| 08:56.56 | Mountain_r | changing all this stuff in the appearance it does not modify anything on the webpages |
| 08:57.17 | Shadow_7 | droid sans does look better on this chat. but not monospace... sigh |
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| 08:57.44 | lostNick | hi |
| 08:57.55 | lostNick | vino is not working |
| 08:58.53 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: that's probably font-family in the styles sheets. font-config has a few manual ways if you do custom fonts. as root: xset fp rehash && fc-cache |
| 08:58.57 | lostNick | there is no error , seems like desktop,sharing is working fine, but client cannot find vino server. do i need to reinstall vino? |
| 08:59.12 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: and you'll likely need to restart the browser for any changes to take affect |
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| 09:00.36 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: distro wise using dpkg-reconfigure font-config might accomplish the same ends |
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| 09:00.57 | lostNick | how to,re install desktop sharing? |
| 09:01.42 | Shadow_7 | lostNick: are you sure the firewall isn't playing a role? |
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| 09:03.13 | lostNick | can someone help me to enable desktop sharing? |
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| 09:03.56 | Mountain_r | Shadow_7, it says that font-config is not installed |
| 09:05.08 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: looks like the actual package name is fontconfig |
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| 09:05.45 | Mountain_r | could it be |
| 09:06.12 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: and one named fontconfig-config ... *sigh* |
| 09:07.15 | Mountain_r | Shadow_7, after that i have run: apt-get install xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi msttcorefonts words in terminal are now yellowish.. :D |
| 09:07.30 | Mountain_r | faded like |
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| 09:08.01 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: still running? |
| 09:08.19 | Shadow_7 | the fontconfig-config is probably the one to reconfigure |
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| 09:11.57 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: you might also check that your font shows up in xfontsel or xlsfonts. |
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| 09:12.45 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: if it does then it's configured appropriately, and it's probably the app / browser. |
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| 09:15.03 | LordDebux | On two different systems now when I install from a live cd connect to the internet (wifi/usb tethered) the installer doesnt see the network connection and asks me to connect but if I try to connect via the installer it always fails. What's up with that? |
| 09:16.18 | Shadow_7 | LordDebux: A wireless card that requires proprietary firmware? |
| 09:16.56 | LordDebux | I am able to connect fine in the "live" system it just won't work when installig |
| 09:17.23 | Shadow_7 | LordDebux: I tend to avoid installers, debootstrap is more forgiving, albeit a bit admin/technical-ish. |
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| 09:19.14 | LordDebux | okay thanks. I thought I'd ask if anyone knew about the issue as it seems odd to me. |
| 09:19.29 | Shadow_7 | LordDebux: it basically lets you install linux via a chroot. Which you can do from the working live system. |
| 09:20.06 | Shadow_7 | LordDebux: wireless issues in linux are certainly not uncommon. |
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| 09:21.32 | LordDebux | sure I've had enough of them myself it just seems strange that it's an issue with the installer and not an isolated one as i've had it happen on two totally different systems |
| 09:22.22 | Shadow_7 | back in the day I had issues like that with pcmcia. Which drove me to debian as it was the only one to let me skip the probe-ing step. |
| 09:22.47 | itry | Hello! I did this: "sshfs myserver:/sompath/ tmp/; cp bigfile tmp/" and now *all* my terminals (gnome-terminal) are black and do not react anymore. I had to come here via webirc. Do you guys know whats going on? It looks like the file is being copied, because there is net-activity going on. |
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| 09:23.01 | Shadow_7 | suse and mandrake failed. although I found a way to make suse work via floppies and the older installer pre-YaST2 |
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| 09:24.07 | Mountain_r | Shadow_7, get it, because of that command apt-get install xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi msttcorefonts I have some strange colours on the text, maybe it doesn't work here. how to unistall it? |
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| 09:26.20 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: apt-get remove... or dpkg --purge --force-all in the most extreme of cases. But fonts shouldn't change colors on you. Perhaps a restart of the affected terminal or app? Or issuing reset && clear |
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| 09:27.14 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: or bypassing aliases by prefixing with \ |
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| 09:28.59 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: it's more likely that something got fixed than broke. As in working as designed (not any correlation to desired). |
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| 09:30.54 | Shadow_7 | Mountain_r: as in "ls --color=auto" vs. "ls --color=none" |
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| 09:32.41 | itry2 | hello! did you see my question about slow performance while uploading a file over sshfs? not sure if my connection still works... |
| 09:34.11 | Mountain_r | Shadow_7, i try to restart and fix it later thanks man |
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| 10:03.28 | lostNick | how to check desktop,sharing is either enabled or disabled ? |
| 10:03.53 | lostNick | what command i need to run in terminal to check desktop sharing? |
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| 10:04.55 | lostNick | does anyone know how to fix desktop sharing ? |
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| 10:06.17 | lostNick | mag dpkg desktop sharing |
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| 10:07.00 | lostNick | dpkg |
| 10:07.06 | lostNick | msg dpkg |
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| 10:07.48 | lostNick | fuk |
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| 10:08.55 | lostNick | dpkg sharing |
| 10:08.55 | dpkg | well, sharing is caring. Ask me about <nfs>, <samba>, <user private groups>. |
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| 10:09.23 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, lostNick |
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| 10:23.40 | lostNick | how to have desktop sharing enabled ? what server do i need to run? |
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| 10:49.04 | temhaa | HÄ°, I want bind to ldap my containers. But I dont any idea about ldap. Can you suggest any document |
| 10:49.42 | temhaa | I'm using lxc. I want ensure authentication with ldap |
| 10:50.48 | SynrGy | not sure what bind has to do with it ... |
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| 10:51.51 | temhaa | SynrGy, bind-using |
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| 10:53.21 | SynrGy | that didn't really clarify anything for me. |
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| 10:56.28 | temhaa | SynrGy, how can I use ldap server? my containers connect ldap server. but how configure ldap server. I dont know anything about ldap |
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| 10:57.40 | SynrG | you could start at https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP |
| 10:57.45 | SynrG | there is a lot of material there. |
| 10:58.22 | SynrG | ldap can be used to do many things, so what I'm trying to get you to share is what you want to accomplish with it. |
| 10:58.31 | SynrG | so far, i haven't heard a coherent problem statement |
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| 11:12.06 | Xierra | Is there a way to install Debian OS on Galaxy S4? |
| 11:13.44 | NeilHanlon | rm -rf / --no-preserve-root |
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| 11:19.05 | SynrGy | NeilHanlon: not funny |
| 11:19.20 | SynrGy | please don't tell users to type destructive commands |
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| 11:29.32 | anudas | and another prog, deja-dup |
| 11:30.19 | abrotman | notes SynrGy is much kinder than abrotman would have been .. |
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| 11:30.58 | SynrGy | abrotman: coffee and waffles mellows me |
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| 11:42.30 | arven | I'm needing to create a local mirror of the Debian repository, and am using ftpsync. However, I can't for the life of me find out what the public key to any of the mirrors are. |
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| 11:43.41 | yekwol | hello, is there a way in debian stable not to mount /run as tmpfs at startup process |
| 11:43.55 | Brigo | arven, what about debmirror? |
| 11:46.01 | arven | Brigo: I just wanted a complete mirror with ftpsync, or is that deprecated now? |
| 11:47.05 | arven | can I use rsync, or another tool to simply grab the public key from a given mirror? |
| 11:47.47 | Brigo | arven, i neve did it, so i really do not know about it, but if i should do it, i will use debmirror. |
| 11:48.01 | arven | Unless, of course, giving away your public key is somehow insecure now. |
| 11:48.06 | abrotman | arven: what in the world do you need your own mirror for? |
| 11:48.35 | arven | abrotman: I need a mirror of i386, amd64, and sources, because I might not have internet access for a while |
| 11:48.40 | stakewinner00 | "sudo rm -r folder" -> folder is not empty "ls folder" -> ". .." WTF? |
| 11:48.48 | abrotman | arven: so just get the DVD ISOs? |
| 11:49.05 | abrotman | seems so much easier than creating your own mirror |
| 11:49.43 | Brigo | stakewinner00, rm -rf folder |
| 11:50.08 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.11 | abrotman | stakewinner00: ls -al folder/ |
| 11:50.25 | stakewinner00 | ls -a folder I type... xD |
| 11:50.37 | abrotman | paste.debian.net please |
| 11:51.03 | stakewinner00 | sudo rm -rf don't work... |
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| 11:53.09 | arven | abrotman: It doesn't seem like so much trouble, if only it was more documented in ftpsync |
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| 11:53.33 | arven | abrotman: and I'm honestly only stuck on getting the public key |
| 11:53.37 | abrotman | right .. a few wgets, or saying "I wish it had more documentation" |
| 11:53.56 | Dixi | I cant seem to unmount partitions in recovery mode? Do I need to run the iso or something to do that? I need to resize a partition |
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| 11:55.21 | Brigo | Dixi, what partitions? |
| 11:55.30 | Dixi | the / partition |
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| 11:56.33 | Dixi | i think ill give it at go with the livecd |
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| 11:57.43 | Brigo | Dixi, you will need a livecd, of course, / partition is needed for the operating system to work, it is where the operatin system is. |
| 11:57.53 | Dixi | yea |
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| 11:58.10 | rhapbit | Any idea why the netinst usbs I create keep hanging |
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| 11:58.16 | rhapbit | I don't even see the menu |
| 11:58.34 | rhapbit | Using unetbootin and uui |
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| 11:59.17 | rhapbit | Oh and hi :) |
| 11:59.52 | Brigo | !tell rhapbit about usb install |
| 12:00.14 | abrotman | rhapbit: Unetbootin is a broken pile of crap |
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| 12:00.28 | rhapbit | And Universal USB Installer? |
| 12:00.50 | abrotman | are you writing the usb image in windows? |
| 12:00.57 | vlade_imir | stakewinner00, are you sur it's not a subvolume ? |
| 12:00.59 | rhapbit | Yes, that's my choice at the moment |
| 12:01.05 | abrotman | rhapbit: try win32-diskimager |
| 12:01.26 | rhapbit | It works with it, but with the mini iso it doesn't see my network card |
| 12:01.36 | abrotman | which is hwat? |
| 12:01.38 | rhapbit | I will try a live cd, which around 200mb |
| 12:01.54 | rhapbit | abrotman, uhm...? |
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| 12:02.26 | abrotman | rhapbit: if we do't know what the netowrk card is, can't help much as to why it doesn't work |
| 12:02.30 | rhapbit | the mini.iso is about 20mb |
| 12:02.33 | rhapbit | Ah, I see |
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| 12:02.45 | rhapbit | Some broadcom, I assume, let's see |
| 12:03.00 | rhapbit | Never had trouble with it so far, but with ubuntu |
| 12:03.00 | stakewinner00 | vlade_imir: I deleted it, it works but i don't know why... http://pastebin.com/65tWxHUn |
| 12:03.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell rhapbit about firmware images |
| 12:03.14 | abrotman | rhapbit: Ubuntu is not Debian .. things work differently |
| 12:03.30 | rhapbit | I've not used debian on this PC I think and this is the first time I have this problem |
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| 12:04.01 | rhapbit | Will try the 200mb iso now and will whine about it in a bit :) Thanks |
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| 12:04.50 | abrotman | okay, totally ignore what we say .. brilliant |
| 12:05.32 | tschundeee | is it possible to get golang in version 1.3 via apt-get install golang? |
| 12:06.01 | Brigo | ,v golang |
| 12:06.02 | judd | Package: golang on i386 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.2-1.1; jessie: 2:1.3-1; sid: 2:1.3-1 |
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| 12:06.24 | Brigo | tschundeee, are you using wheezy? |
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| 12:07.09 | tschundeee | 7.5 wheezy |
| 12:07.09 | Dixi | What program from the gnome livecd should I run to be able to shrink the partition? |
| 12:07.13 | Dixi | gparted? |
| 12:07.19 | Brigo | Dixi, yes |
| 12:07.30 | Dixi | im not used to this desktop thing |
| 12:07.51 | Brigo | there is a console version |
| 12:08.05 | Dixi | gparted is not on the livecd |
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| 12:08.22 | tschundeee | Brigo: how to I switch to jessie mode? |
| 12:08.27 | Brigo | tschundeee, so no, sorry, but you will need to backport it from sid |
| 12:08.27 | tschundeee | do |
| 12:08.42 | tschundeee | Brigo: okay I'll simply install it via source |
| 12:08.49 | rhapbit | Ok, it boots the install now, but still no network card... let's see which one I have |
| 12:08.49 | abrotman | dpkg: tell tschundeee about ssb |
| 12:09.03 | abrotman | rhapbit: did you use the image witht he firmware? |
| 12:09.03 | Brigo | tschundeee, jessie is the testing suit, is not a good idea to switch to jessie ... |
| 12:09.20 | rhapbit | abortman, no I've no idea how to do it, really |
| 12:09.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell rhapbit about firmware images |
| 12:09.47 | abrotman | again ... |
| 12:09.53 | Brigo | xD |
| 12:10.05 | rhapbit | abrotman, I didn't see the pm there, ty |
| 12:10.22 | Dixi | what tool can I use if not gparted? |
| 12:11.13 | abrotman | parted ? |
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| 12:12.02 | rhapbit | abrotman, I hope this is the one: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 12:12.03 | Dixi | abrotman: thats not on the livecd either |
| 12:12.33 | Dixi | why would you create a livecd without gparted or parted.. thats wierd :) |
| 12:12.40 | rhapbit | abrotman, ty again |
| 12:12.50 | jelly-home | Dixi: you don't have a /sbin/parted executable? |
| 12:12.58 | Dixi | nope, its not there |
| 12:13.43 | jelly-home | well, you can install it, I guess |
| 12:13.54 | Dixi | ill try |
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| 12:13.59 | abrotman | rhapbit: yes |
| 12:14.09 | abrotman | Dixi: gparted is a liveCD ? |
| 12:14.13 | abrotman | or can be anyway |
| 12:14.35 | Dixi | i mean.. wouldnt it be just as easy to include just 1 filesystem tool on a livecd.. |
| 12:14.40 | Dixi | partitioning* tool |
| 12:14.57 | Dixi | now its just becoming a pain in the A |
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| 12:16.00 | abrotman | Dixi: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 12:16.10 | Dixi | shrinking a partition |
| 12:16.31 | SynrG | Dixi: so what you're expecting is a specific kind of live CD called a "rescue" live CD, and debian does have that flavour. otherwise, the other flavours are intended to be more or less the same as if you had done a fresh debian install using various standard debian install options (none of which include "install gparted") |
| 12:16.56 | Dixi | so, the rescue livecd has these tools? |
| 12:17.02 | SynrG | yes, but no gui |
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| 12:17.19 | Dixi | gui doesnt matter |
| 12:17.26 | Dixi | thanks, ill try that iso then |
| 12:17.35 | SynrG | which is what we though, which is why we didn't include one :) |
| 12:17.42 | SynrG | thought* |
| 12:17.54 | SynrG | (we == Debian live team) |
| 12:18.00 | centrx | *won |
| 12:18.16 | Dixi | hehe |
| 12:18.37 | abrotman | centrx: ? |
| 12:18.40 | Dixi | im totally fine with using resizefs etc |
| 12:19.34 | SynrG | it is, of course, possible to build a desktop + rescue tools live cd with any combination at all that you like. install live-build and see http://live.debian.net/manual (or the live-manual package) |
| 12:20.36 | Dixi | Its fine.. I never usually resize anything.. |
| 12:20.52 | SynrG | pretty sure the commandline gparted can resize stuff |
| 12:21.10 | SynrG | parted, i mean |
| 12:22.36 | SynrG | oh, hmm. but the man page claims specifically resizing ext3 doesn't work and refers to resize2fs |
| 12:24.43 | Dixi | yup |
| 12:24.53 | Dixi | you have to use resizefs for ext3/4 |
| 12:25.11 | Dixi | ive extended alot before, so i guess it will be a breeze |
| 12:25.45 | Dixi | whats this now |
| 12:25.59 | Dixi | ive downloaded the live rescue cd |
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| 12:26.07 | Dixi | but theres not resize2fs on this.. |
| 12:26.10 | Dixi | not even fdisk |
| 12:26.13 | Dixi | what the hell? |
| 12:27.00 | Dixi | uhm.. |
| 12:27.46 | Dixi | its things like this, that makes me consider other O/S's... |
| 12:27.47 | Dixi | i mean.. |
| 12:27.55 | Dixi | For the loving mother of god.. |
| 12:27.59 | Dixi | I just need to resize.. |
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| 12:28.31 | SynrG | parted makes fdisk redundant. resize2fs, checking ... |
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| 12:29.21 | Dixi | ah |
| 12:29.23 | Dixi | its in /sbin |
| 12:30.00 | Dixi | permission denied while opening dev/sda2 ? |
| 12:30.02 | Dixi | what? |
| 12:30.16 | SynrG | become root? |
| 12:30.18 | SynrG | sudo -i |
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| 12:34.01 | SynrG | yeah, e2fsprogs includes resize2fs and util-linux contains fdisk. |
| 12:34.15 | SynrG | Dixi: so it was just a matter of you forgetting to become root. all OK now? |
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| 12:35.43 | Dixi | yes |
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| 12:35.51 | Dixi | I of course assumed I was root on a livecd |
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| 12:37.47 | SynrG | Why should live be special in that regard? |
| 12:38.43 | Dixi | most operations to correct or alter system-wide settings, which I assume you would need a rescuecd for, requies SU rights? |
| 12:38.46 | SynrG | In general, do not use root unless you require it. |
| 12:38.49 | Dixi | So my assumption was that :) |
| 12:39.35 | Dixi | most things are run on our prod environment as users. |
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| 12:39.51 | Dixi | i dont actually think anything is run as root |
| 12:40.16 | vompatti_ | how is it possible that my debian server has changed it's filesystem to readonly |
| 12:40.17 | SynrG | Anyway, wrong assumption fixed. Moving on ... |
| 12:40.23 | abrotman | vompatti_: filesystem error |
| 12:40.24 | vompatti_ | on its onw |
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| 12:40.28 | vompatti_ | own* |
| 12:40.44 | Dixi | you have a filesystem error of sorts |
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| 12:40.58 | Dixi | check your messages |
| 12:41.00 | vompatti_ | abrotman: so it just some (known) bug/error or someone has broken in to my server |
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| 12:41.16 | SynrG | or hardware failure |
| 12:41.20 | abrotman | vompatti_: filesystem error .. I'm not sure how that's confusing .. fsck the filesystem, hope there are no larger issues .. continue |
| 12:41.37 | Dixi | usually my experience is that its hardware thats failing |
| 12:41.48 | vompatti_ | well fuck |
| 12:42.04 | vompatti_ | do I just reboot and cross my fingers? |
| 12:42.06 | abrotman | no, fsck |
| 12:42.07 | Dixi | or a coldboot that messed up stuff |
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| 12:42.15 | Dixi | how ever you need to fsck your system |
| 12:42.19 | abrotman | Dixi: that's not a 'cold boot' |
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| 12:42.58 | Dixi | hard boot then |
| 12:43.10 | abrotman | seriously? |
| 12:43.26 | abrotman | vompatti_: is it a server or workstation ? |
| 12:43.39 | Dixi | holding down the freaking powerbutton to force a shutdown |
| 12:43.44 | abrotman | vompatti_: and which filesystem is RO? |
| 12:43.47 | Dixi | what are you getting at ffs.. |
| 12:43.53 | abrotman | Dixi: that's not either thing that you said .. |
| 12:44.00 | Dixi | fucking call it a fish boot |
| 12:44.05 | Dixi | jesus christ |
| 12:44.10 | abrotman | no wonder you can't figure anything out |
| 12:44.11 | vompatti_ | abrotman: home server, and its all in one partition |
| 12:44.15 | Dixi | .... |
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| 12:44.24 | vompatti_ | I just do backup on my homefolder and reboot |
| 12:44.29 | SynrG | Dixi: kindly tone down the hostility |
| 12:44.39 | Dixi | i just cant stand cleavers like that.. |
| 12:44.50 | abrotman | vompatti_: First look for errors in /var/log/messages .. |
| 12:44.51 | Dixi | he knows what I mean, and he turns it into a war of words. |
| 12:45.03 | abrotman | I know what you mean, the other guy probably doesn't |
| 12:45.05 | Dixi | like a kid in 2nd grade |
| 12:45.11 | jelly-home | Dixi: grml.org is a nice rescue livecd based on debian with lots of rescue-related tools |
| 12:45.16 | abrotman | try using the correct words .. a 2nd grader can do it .. |
| 12:45.16 | Dixi | We told him, both of us.. |
| 12:45.23 | Dixi | check your messages, do fsck |
| 12:45.50 | Dixi | jelly-home: i was just looking at that acutally and parted iso as well |
| 12:45.54 | Dixi | looks like nice tools |
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| 12:47.06 | vompatti_ | abrotman: https://paste.xinu.at/yMQIY/ |
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| 12:48.11 | abrotman | vompatti_: only tihngs related to HDDs? |
| 12:48.56 | vompatti_ | I have three HDDs (sda/b/c) which all are on softraid |
| 12:48.57 | abrotman | vompatti_: reboot the system .. try 'shutdown -rF now' |
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| 12:49.13 | vompatti_ | I'll just copy my work files first |
| 12:49.14 | abrotman | it may whine it can't write to utmp or something along those lines |
| 12:49.55 | abrotman | sorry, wtmp |
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| 12:50.17 | abrotman | if it does, use 'reboot -d -f' IIRC |
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| 12:53.43 | Dixi | vompatti_: a reboot wont fix that error |
| 12:54.06 | Dixi | either your cable or the drive is failing, or beginning to fail |
| 12:54.32 | Dixi | whats the smart status of the drive connected on that pata port? |
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| 12:55.36 | vompatti_ | how do I check that? |
| 12:55.45 | SynrG | with smartctl |
| 12:55.55 | SynrG | do you have smartmon-tools? |
| 12:56.04 | SynrG | do you have rescue media with smartmon-tools? |
| 12:56.16 | vompatti_ | no |
| 12:56.37 | SynrG | pardon. no dash |
| 12:56.40 | SynrG | smartmontools |
| 12:56.50 | Dixi | SynrG: Its done resizing 512g to 50g now, thanks for your help |
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| 12:56.55 | abrotman | The reboot was to fix the read-only filesystem .. |
| 12:56.55 | SynrG | Dixi: great! |
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| 12:57.14 | vompatti_ | well, I guess I'm fuckd up |
| 12:57.16 | Dixi | abrotman: it will only reboot in RO mode again |
| 12:57.45 | SynrG | vompatti_: some BIOSes have a builtin S.M.A.R.T. status thingy ... otherwise, boot rescue media containing the software and use it from there. |
| 12:57.46 | abrotman | perhaps, perhaps not. The reset of the hardware may have some impact |
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| 13:00.26 | Dixi | perhaps.. it is an old drive probably, considering it is pata. |
| 13:01.14 | SynrG | hence, smart status would be really interesting to see |
| 13:01.18 | Dixi | yup |
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| 13:01.58 | SynrG | i'm guessing a frightening number of hours of uptime, at least |
| 13:02.08 | vompatti_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.13 | SynrG | not that uptime |
| 13:02.24 | Dixi | chuckles |
| 13:02.24 | SynrG | the powered on hours for the drive |
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| 13:03.12 | SynrG | vompatti_: so either boot rescue media containing smartmontools and check the status of the drive with smartcl, or else boot to your BIOS S.M.A.R.T. tool |
| 13:03.22 | SynrG | smartctl* |
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| 13:03.54 | SynrG | vompatti_: this will tell you if the drive is logging errors, # of hours powered on time, etc. |
| 13:03.59 | vompatti_ | SynrG: is this any good? www.sysresccd.org/ |
| 13:04.32 | vompatti_ | first time server shit on it self so I have no experience on this kind of stuff |
| 13:04.41 | SynrG | never heard of it. the debian rescue CD is fine. or else as someone else recommended earlier, grml |
| 13:04.52 | vompatti_ | I'll try that |
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| 13:36.54 | hanshenrik | i have to transfer about 3 TB of data over an unstable connection, and i want to verify that the data is intact when im done.. how should i transfer it? (its 2 BIG files, 1x1TB , 1x2TB) , i was thinking rsync, but i dont know if rsync is a good idea for "few big files" |
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| 13:37.41 | Seb | hanshenrik: it is |
| 13:37.42 | vompatti | rebooted and it gave me an rescue shell, then ran fsck |
| 13:37.47 | Cpuroast | rsync |
| 13:37.50 | vompatti | it had some bad sectors which it fixed |
| 13:38.23 | hanshenrik | will rsync "continue where it broke off" if connection drops and i resume when connection is back up? |
| 13:38.32 | hanshenrik | or will it start from scratch on the BIG FILE ? |
| 13:39.11 | Cpuroast | rsync will continue |
| 13:39.17 | Cpuroast | it can do deltas |
| 13:39.49 | hanshenrik | know if it does by default? |
| 13:40.25 | Cpuroast | man rsync |
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| 13:40.25 | deepblue | how to extract bz2 files? |
| 13:40.27 | Cpuroast | please |
| 13:40.28 | Cpuroast | :) |
| 13:40.49 | Eremiell | deepblue: man bz2 |
| 13:41.21 | Eremiell | deepblue: if "man page for bz2 doesn't exist" then (sudo) apt-get install bz2 |
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| 13:42.53 | deepblue | Eremiell: E: Unable to locate package bz2 |
| 13:43.27 | Cpuroast | apt-get install bzip2 |
| 13:43.53 | Eremiell | deepblue: Cpuroast has it right. my fault. |
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| 13:44.18 | Cpuroast | it may already be there |
| 13:44.20 | Cpuroast | by default |
| 13:44.42 | Cpuroast | deepblue: is it a tar.bz2? |
| 13:45.22 | deepblue | Cpuroast: nope,just bz2 |
| 13:45.25 | Eremiell | it should, I believe, but I'm not sure with anything since I first debootstrapped. :) |
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| 13:46.15 | Cpuroast | deepblue: man bunzip2 |
| 13:47.41 | Cpuroast | so bunzip2 somefile.bz2 should do the trick |
| 13:48.11 | deepblue | Cpuroast: ok,thanx a lot |
| 13:48.32 | Cpuroast | you can also do bzip2 -d somefile.bz2 |
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| 14:10.48 | SOUL_OF_R00T | hello guys great morning here, time to say nice morning |
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| 14:11.37 | SOUL_OF_R00T | i had some troubles here with debian keymap to br-latin1 and gnome ç is not appear appear c with acent some tip for me? |
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| 14:22.36 | savask | Hello. I used to shut down my PC via a dbus command (I use bare awesome WM without anything else) but after an update it stopped working. It says "... not authorized". How do I fix it? |
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| 14:24.14 | mariok | Hello guys |
| 14:24.37 | mariok | I'm looking for a sound applet suitable for stalonetray. |
| 14:25.07 | poeticrpm | mariok, volwheel? |
| 14:25.19 | mariok | I remember some weeks ago there was gnome-sound-applet but that tool disappeared |
| 14:25.46 | poeticrpm | savask, no idea. Where does it say that? |
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| 14:26.09 | savask | poeticrpm: I can see that when I run the command in the terminal |
| 14:26.22 | poeticrpm | can you give me the exact command? |
| 14:26.40 | savask | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop |
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| 14:27.09 | poeticrpm | do you run it as user or root? |
| 14:27.16 | savask | As user |
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| 14:27.27 | savask | Well, it is supposed to work as a usual user. |
| 14:27.28 | poeticrpm | does it work as root? |
| 14:27.32 | poeticrpm | right |
| 14:27.59 | poeticrpm | im just trying to determine how exactly it fails. If you run that same command as root, does it work? |
| 14:28.20 | poeticrpm | also, are you on Debian stable, jessie, or sid? |
| 14:28.28 | poeticrpm | savask, ^ |
| 14:28.45 | savask | poeticrpm: /etc/issue says Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid |
| 14:29.05 | savask | I'll try it as root now (probably I will log out from IRC xD) |
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| 14:30.25 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys i have pt_BR.utf8 pt_BR.iso88591, end_US.utf8 en_US.iso88591 locales generated and use pt_BR but on gnome my user locale returns pt_BR.utf8 and no ceddill appear correctly what can i try to solve it |
| 14:30.27 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ? |
| 14:30.45 | savask | poeticrpm: It works as a root |
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| 14:31.09 | poeticrpm | you need to check consolekit config files- it prolly changed with an update (im guessing you are rolling on testing right?) |
| 14:31.25 | poeticrpm | Im looking hold on |
| 14:31.43 | savask | Oh, okay |
| 14:31.53 | mariok | thanks for the tipp with volumewheel |
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| 14:32.05 | mariok | but there is no debian package in the repository |
| 14:32.24 | mariok | Do you know a way to start a gnome applet suitable for stalonetray? |
| 14:32.59 | mariok | I loged in to Gnome and checked the process list but I didn't find anything suitable. |
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| 14:34.36 | poeticrpm | mariok, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Volume_managers |
| 14:34.37 | Tau | hello. why isn't tap click in touchpads marked as on in debian dists? |
| 14:34.50 | Tau | my touchpad just doesnt click. |
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| 14:35.00 | Tau | why isn't it working? |
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| 14:38.17 | poeticrpm | savask, are you using systemd? |
| 14:38.34 | savask | poeticrpm: I don't know :C |
| 14:39.08 | poeticrpm | probably. Type in: sudo systemctl |
| 14:39.14 | poeticrpm | do you get a bunch of stuff? |
| 14:39.29 | savask | Nope, I don't have that program |
| 14:39.40 | poeticrpm | or even just try: Journalctl -r -b |
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| 14:39.44 | poeticrpm | hmmm.. |
| 14:40.11 | poeticrpm | savask, /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ConsoleKit.conf |
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| 14:40.45 | poeticrpm | if you look at that file, it very clearly at the top has: <!-- Only root can own the service --> |
| 14:40.45 | poeticrpm | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.45 | poeticrpm | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.56 | savask | Yeah |
| 14:41.12 | savask | poeticrpm: Should I change that? |
| 14:41.24 | SynrG | Tau: it is disabled by default and is documented as such |
| 14:41.39 | poeticrpm | but if you arent on systemd, I dont know if changing it to your user name would work. To be honest, I dont even use consolekit |
| 14:41.48 | poeticrpm | If I were you, id give it a shot and see |
| 14:41.57 | savask | Right |
| 14:41.59 | savask | Let's try it |
| 14:42.07 | poeticrpm | you might have to reboot |
| 14:42.28 | savask | Okay |
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| 14:42.34 | SynrG | Tau: see /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/NEWS.Debian.gz |
| 14:42.55 | SynrG | Tau: note, this is upstream's decision, not Debian's |
| 14:43.17 | SynrG | apparently "tap to click" is too easy to accidentally do and confusing to users who don't know about it |
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| 14:43.57 | SynrG | Tau: if you use a desktop, such as GNOME, it probably has its own configuration GUI for enabling tap to click |
| 14:44.45 | poeticrpm | SynrG, though strangely often these tools dont seem to do anything o.O |
| 14:44.55 | SynrG | but if not, the commands in the NEWS file will do it (but only for the current session). see also http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
| 14:45.27 | SynrG | poeticrpm: well. the GNOMEish tool is (or was, last I checked) a bit deficient in the number of knobs it offers ... |
| 14:45.41 | SynrG | poeticrpm: but i have found it actively works against you making the changes the "xorg way" :p |
| 14:46.02 | SynrG | so where it does have a knob, you need to use it, or else you may find your xorg settings overridden |
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| 14:46.15 | poeticrpm | SynrG, in my experience, I cant even get any of the features it does have to work. Yeah, ive pretty much defaulted to using the xorg way |
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| 14:46.54 | poeticrpm | where is savask.. hmmm |
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| 14:49.08 | poeticrpm | savask: ?? |
| 14:49.09 | savask | poeticrpm: It didn't work. |
| 14:49.24 | poeticrpm | as long as it took I figured it might have given you issues |
| 14:49.43 | savask | Well, I changed it back if you mean that. |
| 14:50.33 | poeticrpm | there are tons of deny/allow options in that same file. Again, I doubt it applies to you if youre not using systemd |
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| 14:52.23 | poeticrpm | savask, not sure dude. There is also /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90consolekit, but it doesnt seem to offer anything either. This might be a problem for the forums dude |
| 14:52.37 | savask | Right |
| 14:52.57 | savask | poeticrpm: I heard installing something like lightdm solves this problem so I will give it a go |
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| 14:53.08 | poeticrpm | might very well |
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| 14:54.11 | poeticrpm | alot of dm's load needed services. I never assume that anyone wants a new piece of software to solve a problem if there is a config file that can prolly fix it. Prolly be less painful with a dm though |
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| 14:55.27 | savask | poeticrpm: I could try to use good old shutdown and reboot instead of dbus calls after all. Thanks for help, hopefully I will get this sorted out :-P |
| 14:56.14 | some-cowbell | curious, what was up with dpkg? what was wrong with it? |
| 14:57.19 | poeticrpm | savask: another option if it doesnt offend your security senses is to setup a no password exception in sudo solely for that dbus command... |
| 14:57.36 | poeticrpm | then you could run it with sudo, but sudo wouldnt require a password |
| 14:57.38 | some-cowbell | I'm doing an upgrade of older wheezy (no idea how old) to uptodate wheezy, noticed dpkg was replaced |
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| 14:57.51 | poeticrpm | it would still require a password for everything else |
| 14:58.07 | savask | poeticrpm: I used dbus cause it didn't require sudo or anything so it won't make any differences with shutdown or anything, heh |
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| 14:59.03 | savask | is rebooting |
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| 15:01.08 | brontosaurusrex | 2 |
| 15:01.12 | savask | poeticrpm: Lol, lightdm didn't work |
| 15:01.39 | savask | The only difference is a fancy cursor |
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| 15:01.50 | poeticrpm | savask, right, i understand. I personally would not want to have an exclusion for "reboot" or "shutdown -h now" since many people know those commands. Your long dbus command is cryptic enough I wouldnt mind having an exclusion (to earlier comment) |
| 15:02.09 | savask | Oh |
| 15:02.13 | Rovanion | I'm hosing a flask app that depends on python-flask-sqlalchemy. This is not packaged for wheezy but is for jessie and sid. What is the best way to proceed? Get it through a debian repo, perhaps it's in backports; or install it through pip or easy-install both python packaging tools. |
| 15:02.18 | Rovanion | hosting* |
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| 15:03.50 | poeticrpm | savask, just an idea. It would allow you reboot without having to punch in a password. A DM like slim, gdm, etc should be more convenient and require no exclusions though. I know you can edit something pertaining to consolekit to get it working again |
| 15:03.57 | poeticrpm | anyways, im oyt |
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| 15:04.00 | poeticrpm | out* |
| 15:04.04 | poeticrpm | gl |
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| 15:04.25 | savask | Yeah. Thanks for help and wasted time :-P |
| 15:04.57 | poeticrpm | np |
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| 15:06.39 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:13.24 | jlim | hey guys |
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| 15:14.06 | jlim | anybody know how to install nvidia drivers in debian |
| 15:14.30 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jlim about nvidia |
| 15:14.32 | aguitel | follow the wiki |
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| 15:15.42 | jlim | i did follow the wiki and no luck.. that is why i am here |
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| 15:16.03 | abrotman | Can you provide us with more detail? |
| 15:16.03 | mtn | !ask |
| 15:16.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:16.40 | jlim | uh yeah,,, i am trying to install nvidia drivers in debian wheezy 32 bit |
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| 15:18.22 | abrotman | whichcard? what's the error? what doesn't work? |
| 15:18.50 | jlim | will not boot,, ca't remember the error |
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| 15:19.15 | jlim | something about xorg not configured |
| 15:19.49 | abrotman | something? |
| 15:19.57 | abrotman | Those error messages are actually helpful .. |
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| 15:22.12 | deepblue | how to install kde DE? |
| 15:23.23 | mtn | deepblue: I believe the package name is kde. synaptic should tell you all about it |
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| 15:34.36 | abrotman | dpkg: tell deepblue about install kde |
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| 16:08.50 | silicon_othermac | dpkg: I'm now using the machine that has the issue - What command should I enter to get the needed output? |
| 16:08.51 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, silicon_othermac |
| 16:09.40 | silicon_othermac | I'm now using the machine that has the issue - What command should I enter to get the needed output? |
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| 16:10.22 | mtn | silicon_othermac: probably best to start with a complete question about your situation. |
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| 16:11.08 | Shadow_7 | silicon_othermac: perhaps start by defining needed output? |
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| 16:11.43 | Shadow_7 | silicon_othermac: or defining issue |
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| 16:11.54 | silicon_othermac | mtn: Okay. I would like to install kupfer. In root I typed "apt-get install kupfer" and received the message that such a pakage cannot be found.... |
| 16:12.30 | mtn | silicon_othermac: is it in debian?: http://packages.debian.org |
| 16:12.57 | abrotman | mtn: he was on OFTC before .. |
| 16:13.19 | abrotman | judd: versions kupfer |
| 16:13.22 | judd | Package: kupfer on i386 -- squeeze: 0+v201-2+squeeze2; wheezy: 0+v208-2; jessie: 0+v208-5; sid: 0+v208-5 |
| 16:13.26 | mtn | abrotman: so I see |
| 16:13.32 | Shadow_7 | silicon_othermac: dpkg-query --load-avail -l '*kup*fer*' --- it seems to exist on debian jessie (on my raspberry pi) |
| 16:13.34 | abrotman | silicon_othermac: pastebin your sources.list in paste/debian.net |
| 16:13.45 | abrotman | Shadow_7: apt-cache search kupfer? |
| 16:14.20 | talin | hello. i am trying to figure out how to make a bootable usb stick with the debian installer. the webpage takes me to some repository with a bunch of files, but there is no readme-file there |
| 16:14.27 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: more likely to apt-file find bin/kupfer myself |
| 16:14.34 | abrotman | dpkg: tell talin about usb installer |
| 16:14.38 | abrotman | Shadow_7: that's silly .. good luck |
| 16:14.47 | abrotman | dpkg: tell talin about usb install |
| 16:14.55 | talin | abrotman: thank you, noble sir |
| 16:15.06 | abrotman | dpkg: tell talin about firmware images |
| 16:15.21 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: But I'm normally looking for .h files that apt-cache and other queries are not that useful for. |
| 16:15.32 | abrotman | Shadow_7: good luck |
| 16:16.53 | silicon_othermac | okay I pasted /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:17.38 | mtn | silicon_othermac: where is the link? |
| 16:18.04 | silicon_othermac | oops http://paste.debian.net/107280/ |
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| 16:20.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell silicon_othermac about wheezy sources.list |
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| 16:22.42 | mitchreward | hi guys, i am in big trouble with my wireless interface, and i need to work. I've opened a post here on debian forum. could you help ? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115559 |
| 16:23.42 | mitchreward | am now stuck since 3 days with it |
| 16:23.51 | abrotman | mitchreward: what is 'uname -r' ? |
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| 16:24.09 | mitchreward | abrotman, 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 16:24.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mitchreward about bpo kernel |
| 16:24.34 | abrotman | might help |
| 16:24.35 | mtn | silicon_othermac: you will probably want to add contrib and non-free after main in those lines in your sources.list |
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| 16:25.05 | mitchreward | abrotman, sorry do you want I grep bpo in dopg -l ? |
| 16:25.17 | mitchreward | dpkg ? |
| 16:25.18 | dpkg | mitchreward: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 16:25.39 | mitchreward | dpkg ? |
| 16:25.40 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, mitchreward |
| 16:25.47 | mitchreward | ok |
| 16:26.01 | mtn | mitchreward: heh. dpkg is a bot ;) |
| 16:26.03 | abrotman | it's a bot |
| 16:26.11 | abrotman | mitchreward: see what the bot told oyu in msg |
| 16:26.22 | mitchreward | abrotman, ok :) |
| 16:26.27 | Shadow_7 | mitchreward: if you have spare cash just get a stand alone router for your wireless needs and ethernet to it. |
| 16:26.47 | mitchreward | I am actually in ethernet |
| 16:26.50 | abrotman | wtf .. |
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| 16:27.03 | mitchreward | but the wire is like 20cm long .. |
| 16:27.03 | abrotman | mitchreward: try the BPO kernel .. |
| 16:27.24 | mitchreward | do you think it's a kernel issue ? |
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| 16:27.36 | abrotman | Do I thnik it's worth trying a new kernel? yes |
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| 16:29.05 | silicon_othermac | mtn: I think that the line says ...main contrib and non-free. Am I missing something? |
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| 16:29.18 | mtn | silicon_othermac: did you read what the bot sent you? |
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| 16:29.34 | Skyrider | Hey all |
| 16:29.39 | Guest83465 | Hi |
| 16:30.07 | Skyrider | After an upgrade of nginx and a reboot of the VPS, I suddenly receive an nginx error nginx: [emerg] socket() [::]:80 failed (97: Address family not supported by protocol) |
| 16:30.14 | Skyrider | I googled it up and it appears to be related to ipv6? |
| 16:30.24 | mitchreward | abrotman, can I upgrade my kernel with apt ? |
| 16:30.57 | silicon_othermac | mtn: Sorry. I'm really new to debian. I didn't realise that dpkg is a bot. |
| 16:31.06 | abrotman | mitchreward: again, see wha thte bot told you |
| 16:31.10 | Guest83465 | The :80 part is what lets you know that the error is related to IPv6. |
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| 16:31.31 | silicon_othermac | mtn: This is crazy! A bot. |
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| 16:32.24 | Skyrider | I'm rather confused how this suddenly came to be. |
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| 16:32.29 | Skyrider | I wasn't having any issues before the vps reboot |
| 16:32.33 | Dagger2 | ...the :: part is the v6 address. the :80 is the port |
| 16:32.34 | Skyrider | and nginx was working fine, including the config. |
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| 16:33.12 | Dagger2 | and it's possible you don't have the v6 modules loaded (although that makes no sense for Debian because Debian compiles v6 into the kernel) |
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| 16:34.21 | mitchreward | abrotman, the bot didn't say anything how to upgrade kernel |
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| 16:35.16 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mitchreward about bpo kernel |
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| 16:35.59 | Skyrider | so I'd need to enable ipv6... |
| 16:36.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mitchreward about wheezy-backports |
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| 16:38.06 | Skyrider | Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). |
| 16:38.06 | Skyrider | weird |
| 16:38.17 | Skyrider | its also empty.. |
| 16:40.32 | Skyrider | I'm officially lost. |
| 16:40.57 | Dagger2 | Skyrider: does `modprobe ipv6` help any? |
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| 16:41.44 | Skyrider | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.2.48-grsec-vs-rc15+/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
| 16:44.05 | Dagger2 | Skyrider: sounds like your modules are a bit messed up... and I'm not sure what to do about that |
| 16:44.19 | Dagger2 | you could try `depmod -a` first but I suspect that won't do much |
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| 16:47.12 | silicon_othermac | mtn: Thanks. It worked |
| 16:47.33 | silicon_othermac | somiaj: Thanks for your help. |
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| 16:48.13 | silicon_othermac | abrotman: Thanks for the wheezy sources.list. |
| 16:48.55 | Skyrider | WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/3.2.48-grsec-vs-rc15+: No such file or directory |
| 16:48.55 | Skyrider | FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/3.2.48-grsec-vs-rc15+/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory |
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| 16:49.37 | abrotman | Skyrider: oh, it's not a Debian kernel |
| 16:49.48 | Skyrider | ? |
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| 16:51.45 | dfl | hey there |
| 16:51.49 | Skyrider | hi |
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| 16:52.02 | dfl | I'm looking for a subtitle editor on mp4 |
| 16:52.09 | dfl | (generating .srt) |
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| 16:52.24 | dfl | subtitleeditor gets "segmentation faults :s |
| 16:52.31 | dfl | is there alternatives ? |
| 16:52.51 | dfl | thanks for any help |
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| 16:53.29 | Shadow_7 | dfl: there's the hardway... avconv -i file.mp4 -vn -an -y file.srt |
| 16:53.46 | Shadow_7 | might need some form of -scodec, but I really haven't dabbled there. |
| 16:54.16 | Skyrider | abrotman |
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| 16:54.26 | Skyrider | .. /lib/modules is empty. |
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| 16:56.52 | Skyrider | i'm doomed. |
| 16:58.32 | dfl | Shadow_7: mhm |
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| 16:58.40 | dfl | what is avconv doing there ? |
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| 16:59.05 | petn-randall | Skyrider: That's still not a Debian kernel, we can't help you with that one. |
| 16:59.18 | Skyrider | kk |
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| 17:00.08 | abrotman | Skyrider: this is a VPS? |
| 17:00.08 | dfl | (what is the bot name already that we can ask questions others than soft versions, I mean)) |
| 17:00.16 | Skyrider | Ya, it is |
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| 17:00.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dfl about stuff |
| 17:00.26 | dfl | thanks |
| 17:00.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dfl about foo |
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| 17:01.41 | thowe | Hi folks. How do I see which version of Debian I currently have? uname -a doesn't seem to be what I want... |
| 17:02.00 | Shadow_7 | thowe: lsb_release -a |
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| 17:02.31 | Skyrider | nvm abrotman |
| 17:02.31 | Shadow_7 | thowe: or old school cat /etc/issue if you never changed default motd stuff, but less accurate. |
| 17:02.32 | Skyrider | got it to work |
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| 17:03.14 | thowe | Shadow_7, Huh. Never heard of that... OK, then can I use apt-get to upgrade the system? I'm not sure how to differentiate between upgrading the system and upgrading apps... |
| 17:03.21 | thowe | I'm apparently at 7.1 |
| 17:03.24 | distantflare | hi Skyrider |
| 17:03.32 | Skyrider | hi |
| 17:04.06 | distantflare | Skyrider: there is channel #grsecurity aimed at supporting grsec, on irc network OFTC (irc.oftc.net). On same server there is #mempo which packages grsec for debian |
| 17:04.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell thowe about point release |
| 17:04.19 | distantflare | Skyrider: they might be able to answer questions regarding grsecurity kernels |
| 17:04.31 | thowe | abrotman, Thanks! |
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| 17:06.00 | Skyrider | Thanks distantflare |
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| 17:06.03 | Skyrider | Bit I think I got it.. |
| 17:06.12 | Skyrider | The nginx upgrade re-added the default nginx file. |
| 17:06.17 | Skyrider | Of which was causing the issue. |
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| 17:13.21 | codepython777 | I've a wierd problem with debian 7.5. I'm running it inside windows virtualbox. When I try to open a TLS socket to a non-existent domain (having sni), it hangs. |
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| 17:13.29 | codepython777 | Any ideas how to fix this? Wheezy 7.5 - up2date. |
| 17:13.55 | abrotman | reverse DNS problems? |
| 17:14.14 | codepython777 | abrotman: DNS goes thru correctly. |
| 17:14.22 | abrotman | reverse ... |
| 17:14.40 | codepython777 | abrotman: how is reverse dns coming into the picture when one does: gnutls-cli -d 1 -p 443 nonexistent.blib.us |
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| 17:15.57 | codepython777 | abrotman: How can i fix this problem? |
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| 17:16.37 | abrotman | i'm sure there's a debug mode |
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| 17:17.07 | qu | Well x2go is broken -again- and I am real tired of it. |
| 17:17.26 | codepython777 | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722380/ |
| 17:17.35 | qu | Are there any -reliable- remote desktop systems, hopefully open-source? |
| 17:18.41 | abrotman | codepython777: good, you've got something to start with |
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| 17:19.47 | Shadow_7 | qu: x11vnc ? or are you looking for something that can be trusted across public data lines? |
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| 17:20.06 | qu | Shadow_7: Y, must be ssh. |
| 17:20.50 | qu | Last time I tried vnc it was slow, and colors were messed up. |
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| 17:21.48 | Lis | how do i search for a file and show in which package it is contained? |
| 17:22.08 | Shadow_7 | Lis: apt-file find filename.ext |
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| 17:22.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Lis about apt-file |
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| 17:24.12 | Lis | abrotman, ok thank you and its possible throught the webpage of debian too |
| 17:24.30 | Lis | abrotman, only chroot allows apt in setup |
| 17:24.37 | abrotman | Lis: yes, see packages.debian.org |
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| 17:25.52 | Guest98131 | Hallo |
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| 17:26.24 | dpkg | guest98131: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 17:49.50 | shovel_boss | fuck off |
| 17:49.51 | shovel_boss | faggots |
| 17:49.52 | McLive | god |
| 17:49.53 | snoopybbt | ma porco dio |
| 17:49.54 | xBytez | sigh |
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| 17:49.55 | nzerob | oh jaaa, sehr gut |
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| 17:50.01 | xBytez | someone's having fun |
| 17:50.01 | qu | Alright. This was a waste of time. |
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| 17:50.04 | McLive | same idiot like in #ubuntu |
| 17:50.07 | LoRez | shovel_boss: that's enough of that. don't demean gay people. |
| 17:50.09 | bakaneko | lol |
| 17:50.12 | Skyrider | right.. |
| 17:50.13 | Modeuse | BORING !! |
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| 17:50.46 | hanshenrik | xBytez, someone's extremely bored * |
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| 17:50.55 | xBytez | hanshenrik: I assume. |
| 17:51.01 | redShadow | dafuq.. |
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| 17:51.13 | hanshenrik | (to whomever is, may i suggest tvtropes, xnxx, or xkcd ? :p ) |
| 17:51.18 | redShadow | why can't people simply watch porn.. |
| 17:51.28 | hanshenrik | or BOFH |
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| 17:51.59 | babilen | ##comment-on-spam please |
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| 17:51.59 | ExeciN | redShadow: what makes you think they cannot? |
| 17:52.05 | hanshenrik | redShadow, because my girlfriend is sleeping behind me. not only would i wake her up, but, she'd probably hit me |
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| 17:52.25 | hanshenrik | dawwww shes so cute when shes sleeping |
| 17:52.25 | Sleepy63 | spambots have hit p2p-network today as well. using open relays |
| 17:52.29 | Corey84 | sorry been out helping clients today |
| 17:52.46 | Sleepy63 | oh. now in #gentoo. lovely |
| 17:52.47 | hanshenrik | makes me wanna raep her |
| 17:52.55 | redShadow | ExeciN: hanshenrik: I mean, instead of annoying other people.. |
| 17:53.14 | babilen | Please, take it somewhere else |
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| 17:53.21 | hanshenrik | redShadow, i told you why, because id make my gf angry :p |
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| 17:53.25 | RA3OR | hanshenrik, you wanna watch porn with your g/f behind you? just get behind her and DO porn :D |
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| 17:53.58 | babilen | hanshenrik: Totally inappriate and I would *strongly* recommend to reconsider your attitude towards woman. |
| 17:54.01 | RA3OR | dont be scurred, its only p... :) |
| 17:54.10 | RA3OR | me? |
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| 18:02.34 | babilen | RA3OR: And yes, your comments were also inappropriate and I would hope that you refrain from remarks like that in here in the future. |
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| 18:05.16 | RA3OR | babilen: :) okay |
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| 18:07.29 | babilen | s/in here// realle tbh |
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| 18:33.46 | mariok | poeticrpm: thank you for the tipp. I installed pasystray |
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| 18:34.16 | dimitris | I'm thinking of installing debian stable and kde from testing |
| 18:34.27 | dimitris | is this a good choice? |
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| 18:34.56 | jmcnaught | dimitris: mixing stable and testing is usually a bad idea |
| 18:35.02 | mariok | dimitris: I don't think it's a good idea |
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| 18:37.07 | dimitris | should I go then fully testing? |
| 18:37.23 | silicon_ | Hello. I tried to install cheese. It said how much would need to be installed, I said yes. Then it wanted me to insert the disk: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5.0 _Wheezy_ - Official powerpc lxde-CD Binary-1 20140426-14:33 |
| 18:37.26 | somiaj | dimitris: one would usually suggest you backport, but backporting all of kde is a very large project. Don't mix, if you must have the newer kde you will want to run fully testing. You could try it out in a vm or chroot first. |
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| 18:38.07 | silicon_ | Could this be a /etc/apt/sources.list problem? |
| 18:38.09 | somiaj | silicon_: that is because you still have the deb-cdrom sources in your sources.list. Now that you have the internet sources set up you should go comment out that deb-cdrom line in your sources.list file. |
| 18:38.22 | somiaj | you can also just delete the line |
| 18:38.27 | silicon_ | somiaj: okay. |
| 18:38.33 | somiaj | then run apt-get update after |
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| 18:39.16 | dimitris | somiaj: kde in stable is way too old. That's why I want the one from testing |
| 18:39.55 | mariok | I want to use a power-manager-applet within stalonetray. Is there one you can recommend? |
| 18:40.11 | mariok | I'm using FVWM |
| 18:40.59 | somiaj | mariok: what sort of things do you want it to do. I use xosview just to see the batery ammount, it is simple but might not have all the features you want. |
| 18:41.09 | somiaj | also it doesn't run in stalonetray it can be swallowed into fvwmbuttons |
| 18:41.42 | mariok | somiaj: thanks for the hint. |
| 18:41.53 | ivanshmakov | Any idea how to reach the http://http.debian.net/ folks? As it seems, one of the mirrors for my IP range is incomplete. |
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| 18:42.17 | daytric | Hi everyone. I have a quick question. Why does debian have two package managers: dpkg and apt-get^ |
| 18:42.20 | daytric | ? |
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| 18:42.49 | silicon_ | somiaj: Thanks. Now it doesn't look for the disk. |
| 18:42.56 | ivanshmakov | daytric: The one deals with packages, the other with the mirrors. |
| 18:43.08 | rryoumaa | daytric: those are entirely different. there are others like apt-get, and it is a matter of preference. |
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| 18:43.23 | daytric | Oh, ok. Thank you. |
| 18:43.38 | somiaj | mariok: if ya find me in #fvwm I can help ya set up some xosview, I find it quite nice to display monintors. But it doesn't have fancy features. |
| 18:44.29 | somiaj | daytric: dpkg is the actual package manager, apt is just a front end with intelligence to follow dependencies, find thigns on the internet and so forth. (: |
| 18:45.05 | daytric | Wow, neat little bundle then. |
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| 18:46.08 | petn-randall | openssl says that it reads a config file by default that is set by a compile time flag. How do I find out which it is with Debian? |
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| 18:48.28 | some-cowbell | petn-randall, which? what are the alternatives? |
| 18:49.55 | some-cowbell | usually config files that are system-wide are kept in /etc, and the name of each config should be clear |
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| 18:50.52 | petn-randall | some-cowbell: Did a strace on openssl, apparently the compiled default is /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf |
| 18:51.42 | some-cowbell | that location doesn't make a lot of sense... but, you seem to have found it |
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| 18:52.56 | some-cowbell | but if you're interested in where the flag is set, grab the source for openssl and look around |
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| 18:53.35 | some-cowbell | most likely spot is in the ./configure invocation, and most likely spot for that is debian/rules |
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| 18:54.50 | mariok | thanks for helping me. bye |
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| 18:55.18 | esakish | Is 6 going to be a longterm support release? |
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| 18:55.57 | starbuck | hi, i get this error message from cron, could somebody tell me where the problem lies? http://paste.debian.net/107300/ |
| 18:56.17 | some-cowbell | starbuck, are you trying to use cron? |
| 18:56.39 | esakish | starbuck, Does your logrotate folder exist? |
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| 18:57.27 | rhapbit | abrotman, are you here? |
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| 18:57.52 | rhapbit | Or anyone else, who could help with an issue |
| 18:58.08 | esakish | Show us the issue... |
| 18:58.14 | rhapbit | Trying to install Debian and it doesn't detect my network card - even when using the firmware iso |
| 18:58.21 | some-cowbell | and we'll try applying tissue |
| 18:58.25 | rhapbit | lolz |
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| 18:58.46 | rhapbit | it actually recognized the card, but fails at getting an ip |
| 18:58.51 | some-cowbell | what are you installing from? what media? |
| 18:58.52 | rhapbit | setting it manually doesn't work either |
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| 18:59.06 | esakish | Ethernet or wireless? |
| 18:59.07 | rhapbit | usb, used win32diskimager |
| 18:59.19 | some-cowbell | which image? |
| 18:59.28 | rhapbit | tried ethernet and then a usb wifi, which doesn't work either |
| 18:59.30 | rhapbit | it's a ralink |
| 18:59.46 | rhapbit | amd64 with firmware |
| 18:59.50 | babilen | dpkg: tell esakish -about squeeze-lts |
| 18:59.52 | esakish | iirc debian handles USB networking just fine |
| 19:00.13 | esakish | babilen, Thanks |
| 19:00.21 | rhapbit | any ideas? |
| 19:00.42 | esakish | rhapbit, I've installed via usb tethering to a phone before, no issues. |
| 19:00.46 | some-cowbell | could you tell us what the exact filename of the image is? different ones may or may not let you install the base without networking |
| 19:01.06 | rhapbit | try usb tethering...? |
| 19:01.09 | starbuck | esakish: yes, logrotate folder exists: http://paste.debian.net/107301/ |
| 19:01.25 | rhapbit | it's a netinst, just a sec |
| 19:01.29 | somiaj | petn-randall: does the man page not specify? |
| 19:01.36 | rhapbit | firmware-7.5.0-amd64-netinst |
| 19:01.43 | some-cowbell | oh, ok, netinsts do have the base |
| 19:01.45 | esakish | starbuck, I mean the folder you rotate to, e.g. if you rotate logs to /var/log/archive, does that exist? |
| 19:02.03 | rhapbit | I've installed it before, now it doesn't work for some reason... |
| 19:02.08 | rhapbit | very weird |
| 19:02.27 | somiaj | petn-randall: guess it dosen't. hmm. |
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| 19:02.58 | rhapbit | I was also having issues using unetbootin and universal usb installer, and tried disk imager |
| 19:03.06 | esakish | unetbootin? |
| 19:03.07 | some-cowbell | what you can try, is install from the start, don't establish networking (the installer will think: no networking? then install the base from the cd), then after you boot into the new installation, you kinda have to establish the networking manually |
| 19:03.07 | rhapbit | and they used to work before... |
| 19:03.12 | esakish | How did you write the iso to disk? |
| 19:03.40 | starbuck | esakish, yes this exists too, and the file as well: -rw-r----- 1 root adm 0 Jun 29 07:46 sftp.log |
| 19:04.07 | rhapbit | well, I didn't put the iso as a file, if that's what you mean. I used win32diskimager, which boots fine into the installation, but then I have no internet |
| 19:04.09 | some-cowbell | looks empty |
| 19:04.09 | esakish | starbuck, paste your logrotate conf (not from the folder, the actual .conf in /etc) |
| 19:04.34 | esakish | rhapbit, Get a usb flash drive, dd the iso to it and try installing again. I have no idea what win32diskimager is... |
| 19:04.45 | rhapbit | it's dd for win |
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| 19:04.49 | rhapbit | basically |
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| 19:04.56 | esakish | ic |
| 19:05.00 | Lindrian | Hello |
| 19:05.07 | some-cowbell | rhapbit, did you try installing without net? do you have another machine to be here on? or a smart cell or whatever |
| 19:05.09 | somiaj | petn-randall: the config(5) manpage seems to suggest the mater OpenSSL config file is /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf |
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| 19:05.14 | Lindrian | I am in the process of installing debian on a USB stick and I want to use f2fs. How should I go about doing this? |
| 19:05.15 | starbuck | esakish: http://paste.debian.net/107303/ |
| 19:05.17 | esakish | You dont need anything special when writing the iso, just copy it exactly as it is |
| 19:05.24 | rhapbit | I have a phone, yes, what do you have in mind? |
| 19:05.31 | esakish | And I also advise installing base without net |
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| 19:05.51 | whomp | when i run `sudo apt-get foo`, i get this error message: https://gist.github.com/michaeleisel/2e7132e7c4b61a66b1e6 |
| 19:05.56 | whomp | any ideas? debian wheezy |
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| 19:06.05 | rhapbit | esakish, it won't boot without a bootloader, I think? I can't do it in win, or don't know how, at least |
| 19:06.07 | some-cowbell | rhapbit, come here on a separate machine (or phone). that's all... that would make it easy to help you |
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| 19:06.32 | esakish | starbuck, mkdir /var/log/archive; echo "olddir /var/log/archive" >> /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 19:06.44 | Lindrian | Does anybody know? |
| 19:06.44 | esakish | rhapbit, It will boot if you wrote it correctly |
| 19:06.48 | some-cowbell | then the machine you're installing on is free to install with or without net, and at the same time you can ask questions here |
| 19:07.19 | jmcnaught | petn-randall: you can also specify a config file on the command line with "openssl -config <path to file>", which is what I do for managing my private CA for example |
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| 19:07.36 | some-cowbell | esakish: he's saying it is booting |
| 19:07.45 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, well, I have only one question - why does the install fail at dhcp, and there's no issue with the same card under win |
| 19:07.58 | some-cowbell | dunno. |
| 19:08.02 | rhapbit | I've used the same pc with ubuntu too, I realizd it's not debian... |
| 19:08.09 | esakish | rhapbit, How is your network configured? Do you just connect to a router via dhcp or is there something more to it? |
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| 19:08.13 | starbuck | esakish, what does it do? |
| 19:08.16 | some-cowbell | so under ubuntu, same issue? |
| 19:08.30 | esakish | It makes logrotate send all rotated logs to that dir |
| 19:08.34 | somiaj | rhapbit: are you using the non-free firmware installer, it could be your network card requires non-free firmware. |
| 19:08.39 | esakish | Good practice to keep them all in one place |
| 19:08.41 | rhapbit | No, used to boot and work fine under ubuntu. It's a straight cable to the router, uses dhcp. |
| 19:08.45 | esakish | Not sure if it will fix the issue though |
| 19:08.56 | rhapbit | somiaj, I'm using firmware-7.5.0-amd64-netinst |
| 19:09.25 | some-cowbell | and you do want 64-bit userland? |
| 19:09.48 | rhapbit | since I'm installing on a 4gb machine, I thought it'd be nice not to wase the ram |
| 19:09.48 | esakish | rhapbit, It might be easier to use a cd that contains all the packages you need for base install |
| 19:09.51 | esakish | Networking can come after |
| 19:10.03 | rhapbit | hm... |
| 19:10.16 | some-cowbell | esakish: I believe that cd does have the base on it |
| 19:10.28 | somiaj | esakish: the netinstall contains a complete base system, he can completely install a base debian with that image with out the network. |
| 19:10.33 | esakish | some-cowbell, netinst has a base base. I mean something with window system/etc |
| 19:10.34 | some-cowbell | how large in mg is the image? |
| 19:10.41 | starbuck | esakish, that sounds liek a good idea, but does the error message have something to do with this? |
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| 19:10.54 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, 241mb |
| 19:10.57 | esakish | starbuck, Not sure. From what I can tell, logrotate has issues creating something |
| 19:11.07 | some-cowbell | yeah, that image should contain the base |
| 19:11.17 | somiaj | rhapbit: you could complete the install without the network, then you will boot into a console. From there we can try to help y ou get your network running. Knowing what chipset your network card is using would be helpful, or the pciid of teh card. |
| 19:11.44 | rhapbit | it's a realtec 8111 or some such - ok, will try it |
| 19:11.47 | rhapbit | Thanks for the assistance |
| 19:11.56 | rhapbit | Will be back to moan a bit later |
| 19:12.04 | rhapbit | :) |
| 19:12.06 | some-cowbell | good luck |
| 19:12.09 | rhapbit | ty |
| 19:12.43 | some-cowbell | so either he can't come here at the same time, or just plain not going to |
| 19:15.29 | talin | i'm a bsd user that is giving debian a try. i have some questions about things that are very weird to me: why is PermitRootLogin enabled by default with ssh ?(!!!) and why are a bunch of services like cups (printer server?), exim, rpcstat, rpcbind etc accepting connections? |
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| 19:16.39 | talin | also, why is emacs23 the latest when 24 has been out for more than a year? and what about enlightenment? i can't find it at all |
| 19:16.57 | starbuck | ok, thank you esakish |
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| 19:20.27 | starbuck | esakish, one last question, which files get moved to the archive (olddir variable), only the .gz files? |
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| 19:22.57 | esakish | Depends |
| 19:23.04 | Brigo | talin, emacs version in wheezy is 45 |
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| 19:23.31 | esakish | if you have a file {} rule, that will probably not be sent there, but anything that the logrotate.conf affects will be |
| 19:23.42 | esakish | You need to read the man page, I don't recall exactly how it works. |
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| 19:24.07 | rryoumaa | Brigo: ? |
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| 19:24.16 | esakish | But imho, you don't really need any special rules for specific files. A single logrotate.conf and an empty logrotate.d is enough |
| 19:24.35 | Brigo | rryoumaa, what? :) |
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| 19:25.06 | rryoumaa | Brigo: emacs 25 has not been released yet, and you are saying that 45 is the latest. |
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| 19:25.31 | Brigo | ,v emacs |
| 19:25.32 | judd | Package: emacs on i386 -- sid: 23.2+1-7; squeeze: 23.2+1-7+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 23.2+1-7+squeeze1; jessie: 45.0; sid: 45.0; wheezy: 45.0 |
| 19:25.52 | Brigo | of course, i know nothing about emacs ... |
| 19:26.06 | rryoumaa | those are not meaningful for emacs |
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| 19:27.04 | rryoumaa | anyway the answer is that 23 was there just before the freeze |
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| 19:27.32 | jelly-home | ,v emacs24 |
| 19:27.33 | judd | Package: emacs24 on i386 -- jessie: 24.3+1-4+b1; sid: 24.3+1-4+b1 |
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| 19:28.26 | rhapbit | So, I've got the base install, but still no dhcp |
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| 19:28.36 | rhapbit | Any help? |
| 19:28.37 | rryoumaa | would be happy with an emacs24 backport |
| 19:28.57 | Brigo | rhapbit, what do you mind for base install? |
| 19:29.07 | rhapbit | Mind? |
| 19:29.15 | Brigo | meant, sorry |
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| 19:29.54 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell Brigo about base install |
| 19:30.06 | rhapbit | I was just here a few minutes ago - I have a base debian install now, but cant get networking to work |
| 19:30.23 | somiaj | so what network card/chipset do you have, lspci -v |
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| 19:31.01 | Brigo | rhapbit, may be beacuse you do not install it. |
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| 19:31.18 | rhapbit | r8169 |
| 19:31.21 | jelly-home | rhapbit: is isc-dhcp-client package installed? |
| 19:31.52 | rhapbit | dhclient is here |
| 19:32.07 | jelly-home | does it work if you run it manually? |
| 19:32.25 | rhapbit | nope, not at all, hangs for a bit |
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| 19:33.06 | jelly-home | rhapbit: dhclient -v eth0 (or whatever ethX) |
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| 19:33.23 | jelly-home | put it in background, see if anything appears in the logs |
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| 19:34.00 | jelly-home | rhapbit: grep dhcl /var/log/daemon.log afterwards |
| 19:34.22 | rhapbit | jelly-home: ok, waiting for it to finish |
| 19:34.55 | jelly-home | it won't quit |
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| 19:35.14 | jelly-home | just inspect the logs to see if it did anything |
| 19:35.27 | rhapbit | it did, saying "no dhcpoffers received" |
| 19:35.38 | rhapbit | Same thing in the log |
| 19:35.50 | jelly-home | alright. is the interface up? |
| 19:35.59 | rhapbit | also "no working leases in persistent database" |
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| 19:36.23 | rhapbit | Had to bring it up myself, now shows on ifconfig |
| 19:36.33 | jmcnaught | talin: Debian normally starts services if the package has a reasonably secure default configuration. As for newest versions, Debian Stable (currently Wheezy) emphasizes "not-changing" over having the latest version. If you use Debian Stable, your computer doesn't surprise you with behaviour changes when you update. |
| 19:36.33 | rhapbit | Has mac addreess |
| 19:36.41 | levlaz | Hey everyone, I am hoping someone could help me with a host name question. I use openconnect to connect to my companies VPN. In ubuntu I am able to resolve the Windows machines hostnames without doing anything special. However, in Debian (I am using Testing) when I type in the hostname it is never found. I looked around online and installed winbind and avahi but this does not seem to do anything. Any thoughts? |
| 19:36.50 | Brigo | rhapbit, and the wire is plug-in, of course ... |
| 19:37.08 | rhapbit | Brigo: it works wgen I boot in win |
| 19:37.12 | rhapbit | When |
| 19:37.30 | jelly-home | rhapbit: pastebin the output of "ip link show dev eth0" or "ifconfig -a" |
| 19:37.48 | jelly-home | a screenshot made with a camera is fine too |
| 19:37.58 | talin | jmcnaught: i see. sounds like it's worth it in a server environment |
| 19:38.15 | rhapbit | A screenshot is better - where to upload it? |
| 19:38.32 | jelly-home | http://picpaste.com/ or imgur or wherever |
| 19:38.47 | rhapbit | Okie |
| 19:38.54 | jmcnaught | talin: definitely, but i also use it on my desktops. My computer works the same way each day so I spend less time tweaking. You can of course get some newer versions from backports, and lots of stuff you can backport yourself too |
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| 19:39.46 | talin | jmcnaught: okay. now that i know why, it makes sense :-) |
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| 19:41.06 | rhapbit | jelly-home: http://picpaste.com/20140629_223947-7REC95s9.jpg |
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| 19:42.07 | rhapbit | Hm |
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| 19:42.23 | jelly-home | rhapbit: NO-CARRIER means the link is not detected |
| 19:42.48 | jelly-home | rhapbit: perhaps your card needs realtek firmware to work properly |
| 19:43.05 | rhapbit | But I do have net access even I boot in win... weird |
| 19:43.15 | rhapbit | When |
| 19:43.20 | jelly-home | !realtek firmware |
| 19:43.20 | dpkg | Firmware from userspace is required by the <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192su>, <r8712u>, <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192de> and <rtl8192se> Linux kernel drivers. Firmware patches providing bug fixes for specific Realtek Ethernet controllers are also available. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-realtek package to provide. |
| 19:43.39 | jelly-home | rhapbit: windows drivers likely contain the firmware by default |
| 19:43.39 | talin | what's a clean, lightweight and decent-looking window manager? |
| 19:44.00 | jelly-home | rhapbit: this is debian 7? |
| 19:44.25 | rhapbit | jelly-home: yes, latest firmware net install |
| 19:44.33 | rhapbit | So what can I do? |
| 19:44.41 | jelly-home | rhapbit: hm. is firmware-realtek package installed? |
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| 19:45.46 | rhapbit | I think not... |
| 19:46.13 | rhapbit | Wants the cd, but I used a usb, grr |
| 19:46.19 | jelly-home | rhapbit: dpkg -s firmware-realtek |
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| 19:47.00 | rhapbit | Not installed |
| 19:47.19 | jelly-home | rhapbit: grab it from https://packages.debian.org/firmware-realtek |
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| 19:47.46 | rhapbit | But... I don't have net :D |
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| 19:48.09 | rhapbit | Will try to use the phone in tethering |
| 19:48.09 | jelly-home | rhapbit: how are we talking now then!??! |
| 19:48.19 | rhapbit | Through the phone :) |
| 19:48.33 | jelly-home | grab it from the phone, or reboot windows |
| 19:49.01 | rhapbit | Yep, ok, ty a lot for the valuable assistance jelly-home |
| 19:49.03 | jelly-home | http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb |
| 19:49.08 | rhapbit | Will try it now |
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| 19:55.35 | rhapbit | jelly-home: installed it with dpkg -i |
| 19:55.42 | talin | doesn't debian support enlightenment? |
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| 19:56.05 | talin | i can't find it with apt-cache search enlightenment |
| 19:56.19 | jelly-home | rhapbit: easiest thing to do is reboot; otherwise, modprobe -r r8169 and load it again |
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| 19:56.37 | jelly-home | ,i e17 |
| 19:56.38 | judd | No package named 'e17' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 19:56.54 | jelly-home | ,v e17 |
| 19:56.55 | judd | Package: e17 on i386 -- jessie: 0.17.3-3; sid: 0.17.6-1 |
| 19:57.52 | jelly-home | talin: if you're on debian 7, that command should find e16 |
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| 19:58.19 | jelly-home | sorry, no, that was debian 6 |
| 19:58.49 | talin | i am running debian 7 |
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| 19:58.54 | jelly-home | talin: so yeah, current release does not seem to have any E |
| 19:59.17 | talin | is it common that it skips stuff like that? are there any similar window managers that you'd recommend? |
| 19:59.38 | jelly-home | packages that are really buggy don't enter a release |
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| 20:00.44 | talin | strange that they removed both e16 and 17 though. 16 should've been super-stable by then |
| 20:01.01 | jelly-home | or "not maintained" by late 2012 |
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| 20:02.17 | rhapbit | jelly-home: still not working - no carrier after reboot |
| 20:03.27 | jelly-home | rhapbit: hm, do you have a different ethernet cable to try? |
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| 20:03.45 | jelly-home | rhapbit: also, what does "grep -E 'eth|r8169' /var/log/kern.log" say? |
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| 20:06.30 | Shadow_7 | rhapbit: or $ dmesg | grep -i eth |
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| 20:07.28 | jelly-home | not just eth, both eth and driver-specific lines might have clues |
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| 20:13.21 | mitchreward | hi guys, i got troubles with network drivers on my laptop. I run a wheezy64; kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 20:13.24 | mitchreward | stable |
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| 20:15.31 | rhapbit | jelly-home: Are you here? The net spilt. |
| 20:15.53 | mitchreward | hi guys, i got troubles with network drivers on my laptop. I run a wheezy64; kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 20:15.58 | mitchreward | how can I upgrade the kernel? seams to be the last one |
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| 20:18.00 | jelly-home | rhapbit: yes. Are you able to pastebin some "grep -E 'eth|r8169' /var/log/kern.log" or "dmesg|grep -E 'eth|r8169'" output? |
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| 20:18.16 | rhapbit | Ok, will do |
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| 20:20.59 | rhapbit | jelly-home: http://picpaste.com/20140629_231947-vZxsgsH2.jpg |
| 20:22.19 | _odie | rhapbit: looks like you're missing firmware |
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| 20:22.56 | rhapbit | I did install the firmware-realtek package |
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| 20:23.43 | _odie | that should work. usually |
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| 20:24.06 | klrr__ | anyone know where i can get a deb of latest eclipse? is there any such repo providing builds? |
| 20:24.08 | rhapbit | But it doesn't :) |
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| 20:25.03 | jelly-home | !rtl8168c |
| 20:25.17 | jelly-home | nothing special about that one apparently |
| 20:25.21 | TJ- | rhapbit: Did you check in dmesg/kern.log that the firmware is loaded? |
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| 20:25.56 | rhapbit | TJ-: I believe it's in the pic above? |
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| 20:36.03 | TJ- | rhapbit: I'd expect to see a "firmware: requesting ..." message by the r8169 module |
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| 20:37.28 | rhapbit | It's not there... looking at this page atm http://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/ |
| 20:37.37 | rhapbit | Not sure if it's relevant |
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| 20:40.20 | TJ- | rhapbit: What is the [Vendor:Product] ID shown for that device "lspci -nn -s 01:0.0" ? |
| 20:41.40 | rhapbit | Rtl8111/8168B |
| 20:42.26 | rhapbit | But it should be 8111c/8168c, if I remember from win |
| 20:42.27 | TJ- | rhapbit: Nope, that's not the [Vendor:Product] ID ... I need the hex numbers in the square brackets that "lspci -nn" shows |
| 20:42.47 | rhapbit | 10ec:8168 |
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| 20:43.06 | TJ- | rhapbit: Thanks... and which kernel version is in use "uname -r" ? |
| 20:43.30 | rhapbit | 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 20:47.32 | d3lxa | hey, I used btrfs-convert successfully, used a bit my partition then decided to subvol delete ext2_saved and from then on, I have kernel oops as soon as I try to write anything (wait_on_page_read or rwsem_down_write_failed or the like) any idea guys, please? Linux 3.14-1, cannot even reboot softly |
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| 20:51.00 | jelly-home | rhapbit: the only remaining idea I can think of is trying a newer kernel from wheezy-backports. However those packages have a couple of dependencies, and figuring them out manualy if going to be... interesting |
| 20:51.50 | rhapbit | No reason to go through this madness |
| 20:52.01 | rhapbit | I really appreciate the help |
| 20:52.04 | TJ- | rhapbit: OK, I've just read the kernel source-code. That device is known as RTL_GIGA_MAC_VER_22 and doesn't require firmware, so that can be discounted as the cause of your problem |
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| 20:52.29 | magnulu | hello - crosschatting on its way: :) any way to configure how my webcam appears when activating it through a java chat? I have tried guvcview, but the settings are not coming through in the java chat |
| 20:52.42 | talin | hmm, i'm searching with apt-cache for window managers. i can't find gala nor enlightenment nor windowmaker. do they appear with different names these days? |
| 20:52.53 | rhapbit | Indeed, I don't remember installing fw under ubuntu |
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| 20:53.27 | rhapbit | jelly-home and TJ- thanks a lot, guys! |
| 20:53.44 | rhapbit | Will figure what to do tomorrow |
| 20:53.57 | rhapbit | I have a ralink wifi usb |
| 20:54.04 | rhapbit | May try that too |
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| 20:55.05 | TJ- | rhapbit: Actually... have you checked the interface hasn't been renamed by udev to something else? |
| 20:55.18 | jelly-home | rhapbit: grab firmware-ralink right now ;-) |
| 20:55.26 | jelly-home | ,v firmware-ralink |
| 20:55.27 | judd | Package: firmware-ralink on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.41~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; sid/non-free: 0.43 |
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| 20:55.35 | TJ- | rhapbit: does "ifconfig eth0" and "ethtool eth0" show useful active info? |
| 20:55.46 | TJ- | jelly-home: It isn't a firmware issue |
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| 20:56.04 | rhapbit | jelly-home: will do :) |
| 20:56.18 | jelly-home | TJ-: it will be, with that wifi stick |
| 20:56.23 | rhapbit | TJ-: ifconfig -a shows eth0 |
| 20:56.34 | rhapbit | I have to up it |
| 20:56.45 | rhapbit | And then dhclient does nothing |
| 20:56.56 | rhapbit | says "no link" |
| 20:57.26 | rhapbit | I can see the mac address, if that's useful |
| 20:57.56 | jelly-home | TJ-: ifconfig [21:41] <rhapbit> jelly-home: http://picpaste.com/20140629_223947-7REC95s9.jpg |
| 20:58.34 | rhapbit | ty, it's hard going back on my phone :) |
| 20:59.16 | Lindrian | Is it a bad idea to use debian with btrfs and raid5? |
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| 21:00.11 | jelly-home | Lindrian: bad idea if you want to help making btrfs stable and useful? no |
| 21:00.35 | Lindrian | bad idea if i want to set it up and forget about it |
| 21:00.39 | jelly-home | Lindrian: bad idea if you want to put your data on it? Yes, wait 3-5 more years |
| 21:01.11 | Lindrian | jesus |
| 21:01.13 | jelly-home | well, unless you also have working backup and restore |
| 21:01.17 | Lindrian | so ext4 + mdadm instead? |
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| 21:01.31 | jelly-home | that's a lot safer, yes |
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| 21:01.38 | rhapbit | Have a good day/night guys |
| 21:01.42 | TJ- | jelly-home: rhapbit That (Rtl8111/8168B 10ec:8168) isn't a wireless device |
| 21:01.48 | rhapbit | Thanks a lot, again! |
| 21:01.49 | rhapbit | No |
| 21:01.52 | rhapbit | It's not |
| 21:01.57 | jelly-home | TJ-: we know. |
| 21:02.13 | rhapbit | :) Thanks! |
| 21:02.22 | TJ- | jelly-home: so why did you say "TJ-: it will be, with that wifi stick" |
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| 21:02.28 | TJ- | jelly-home: confusing :D |
| 21:03.01 | jelly-home | TJ-: the context was <rhapbit> Will figure what to do tomorrow <rhapbit> I have a ralink wifi usb <rhapbit> May try that too |
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| 21:03.29 | TJ- | jelly-home: Ahhh... OK, I wasn't following that bit; thought you were replying to me |
| 21:03.35 | jelly-home | TJ-: it's only confusing if you don't read everything |
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| 21:08.33 | jelly-home | !greet cra1g321 |
| 21:08.33 | dpkg | Bonjour, cra1g321 |
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| 21:24.40 | jelly-home | !qotd0 |
| 21:24.41 | dpkg | <extor> I formatted 800GB worth of pr0n, warez, cbtz, isos and VMs by mistake. Any suggestions as to how to recover? I tried diskinternals linux recovery and R-Linux but they couldn't find the old stuff :( |
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| 21:51.04 | diegows | hi |
| 21:51.06 | diegows | are there some documentation about the meaning of the numbers in an expert partman recipe? (preseed) |
| 21:51.50 | talin | i'm trying to run the windowlab wm, but it seems to just hang. all other wms i've tried have worked. are there any known issues with it? |
| 21:52.33 | some-cowbell | how do you run windowlab? |
| 21:52.42 | talin | with "exec windowlab" in .xinitrc |
| 21:53.21 | Shadow_7 | When no other documentation exists, the code is the documentation. Although there may be other documentation. |
| 21:53.22 | some-cowbell | how do you start x? with startx? or do you log in at an xdm prompt? |
| 21:53.31 | talin | some-cowbell: i use startx |
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| 21:53.45 | some-cowbell | ok, so what happens when you do that? |
| 21:54.01 | Eremiell | Any chance, someone has experience with neo4j? I'm a bit confused with their packaging system. |
| 21:54.24 | talin | some-cowbell: i get a black screen, and nothing seems to happen. then i frantically press ctrl+alt+random f-key until i find the one where i started so i can exit |
| 21:54.52 | some-cowbell | ok,,, |
| 21:54.57 | Shadow_7 | some-cowbell: a lot of wm's use the wm-session tendency. i.e. exec icewm-session or exec gnome-session |
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| 21:56.16 | some-cowbell | make a wrapper script, #!/bin/bash \n\n exec windowIcan'tremember |
| 21:57.16 | teraflops | uhm may be using update-alternatives talin |
| 21:57.19 | some-cowbell | then edit it again, put echo "entering wm" >> /home/youruser/logfile.txt |
| 21:58.14 | some-cowbell | then edit it again, put echo "leaving wm" >> /home/youruser/logfile.txt after the exec (the first one goes before the exec and after the #! line) |
| 21:58.34 | some-cowbell | replace youruser with your user name |
| 21:59.05 | talin | some-cowbell: hmm, okay. i can try that, but i don't see how that will log anything apart from entering and leaving |
| 21:59.18 | some-cowbell | then try startx and do the crazy fkey exit thign you described |
| 21:59.23 | talin | by the way, how can i install manpages for dev? like section 3 |
| 21:59.44 | some-cowbell | wait, forgot, don't use exec inside the script |
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| 21:59.51 | talin | i tried to strace the pid of the process that hangs (windowlab), and it stops at select(NULL, NULL ...) |
| 22:00.12 | some-cowbell | if you do it won't come back to print leaving |
| 22:00.56 | some-cowbell | at least you'll know it tries to run the wm |
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| 22:01.54 | some-cowbell | another thing you can try, is use a different wm, then fire up an xterm, and run windowlab |
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| 22:03.18 | some-cowbell | we're more or less noticing an elephant in the room that we can't see, and shooting balls at it and record the angle they apparantly bounce off at |
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| 22:03.48 | some-cowbell | shoot enough balls at enough different angles, we start to notice, yes, it IS an elephant |
| 22:04.23 | some-cowbell | it does seem like windowlab is broke |
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| 22:06.39 | some-cowbell | one thing, if it doesn't exit, then it holds the process id, and so startx (or something it calls) that's watching that process id would notice it's gone and therefore exit... seems like that's not happening either |
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| 22:08.03 | some-cowbell | maybe windowlab is just misconfigured, maybe just colorwise |
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| 22:08.49 | Shadow_7 | seems that matlab doesn't play well with desktop effects. Something about AWT_TOOLKIT environment variable. |
| 22:08.49 | talin | some-cowbell: hmm. i tried aewm which windowlab is based on, and i get the same thing |
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| 22:09.14 | talin | time to sleep. i'll give it another go tomorrow. thanks for the help |
| 22:09.39 | some-cowbell | you have a coupla ideas to try, maybe those will help |
| 22:10.23 | Shadow_7 | seems like matlab is more of a desktop environment than a window manager. Perhaps run it under a working window manager. |
| 22:10.30 | some-cowbell | awt is java? |
| 22:10.32 | Shadow_7 | I've never used it myself though |
| 22:10.47 | Shadow_7 | It seemed linked with java to some degree |
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| 22:11.17 | some-cowbell | awt is a fairly largish class library used by java |
| 22:11.25 | Shadow_7 | Seemed like it might be nautilus like back in the early gnome days |
| 22:11.55 | some-cowbell | yeah, awt sounds like the very first one |
| 22:12.00 | Shadow_7 | just one google hit that I looked at. Like I said, never used it myself. |
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| 22:14.28 | |oop | swing baby |
| 22:14.45 | some-cowbell | rhapbit, what did you find out? |
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| 22:14.54 | rhapbit | hey, again |
| 22:15.12 | |oop | 9/11 was an inside job |
| 22:15.24 | rhapbit | The wierdest thing - two of my router ports (wrt54gl) don't work... fully |
| 22:15.46 | some-cowbell | so plugging into a different one worked? |
| 22:15.48 | rhapbit | If I dhcp under nix, it doesn't work, but under win, it works |
| 22:16.07 | rhapbit | If I move the cable to another port, it works both under win and nix |
| 22:16.14 | some-cowbell | ahh |
| 22:16.26 | rhapbit | So two, out of four ports, work like this atm |
| 22:16.29 | some-cowbell | so you have a broken but known workaround |
| 22:16.37 | rhapbit | lol :) |
| 22:16.58 | rhapbit | Not sure if the tomato firmware is at fault or the router's hardware - and not sure how to debug that |
| 22:17.01 | some-cowbell | kinda sucks, but at least you can have win clients on the halfbad ports |
| 22:17.22 | rhapbit | Yeah, but I want to dualboot and all but one ports are in use |
| 22:17.39 | TJ- | rhapbit: That sounds like an auto-config issue with MDI-X |
| 22:17.43 | some-cowbell | is one always win? |
| 22:18.11 | rhapbit | one is another router, two for an ubuntu server, three for this dualboot, four is broken apparently |
| 22:18.20 | rhapbit | TJ-, what now? You know too much |
| 22:18.22 | rhapbit | :D |
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| 22:18.31 | some-cowbell | anyway tho, so you installed with networking, it pulled in all the packages and installed them? |
| 22:18.40 | TJ- | rhapbit: I'm just thinking of (obvious) hardware issues that could cause the issue |
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| 22:18.54 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, Nope, it's 1:13 here, will do it tomorrow |
| 22:19.12 | some-cowbell | ok. seems you have it well in hand/ |
| 22:19.13 | rhapbit | TJ-, are you talking router side problems? |
| 22:19.15 | TJ- | rhapbit: Are the ports on the router gigabit? |
| 22:19.27 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, indeed, but I really appreciate the support, you guys are great |
| 22:19.37 | rhapbit | TJ-, nope, it's a wrt54gl |
| 22:19.38 | some-cowbell | thanks :) |
| 22:19.42 | rhapbit | with tomato :) |
| 22:20.01 | TJ- | rhapbit: OK, so fast ethernet... and the PC port, is it gigabit? |
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| 22:20.11 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, I guess I'll stick around and suck on your brains |
| 22:20.29 | some-cowbell | I'm melllllltingggg |
| 22:20.31 | rhapbit | TJ-, not sure, but almost certainly not |
| 22:20.58 | rhapbit | it's an old asrock board, I doubt they'll put a gigabyt card |
| 22:21.09 | TJ- | rhapbit: what does "ethtool eth0" show (if eth0 is the interface) ? |
| 22:21.10 | rhapbit | It's the same we were torturing a few minutes back |
| 22:21.24 | rhapbit | the realtek 8111c or 8168 |
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| 22:21.42 | rhapbit | under windows, nothing much at the moment, sorry TJ |
| 22:21.56 | rhapbit | I just showed up to let you know that the problem was not in the distro |
| 22:22.13 | rhapbit | I even wrote an ubuntu image and it didn't get dhcp either |
| 22:22.22 | rhapbit | so the problem is the router for certain |
| 22:22.38 | rhapbit | but I'm not sure if it's a software or hardware problem |
| 22:22.51 | some-cowbell | so before when ubuntu worked, it must have been plugged into the working router socket? |
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| 22:23.12 | TJ- | rhapbit: Ahhh OK... My (tentative) theory is, the Linux driver doesn't correctly configure the chipset for auto MDI-X, which is why the link state remains 'down', whereas the Windows driver correctly configures it |
| 22:23.27 | rhapbit | No, it was in the same. We had thunder, lightning and it was very frightening :) Though it's weird that the WAN port is OK. |
| 22:23.31 | some-cowbell | I guess you could plug a 10/100 hub into one of the working ports |
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| 22:24.03 | TJ- | rhapbit: And I'd further suspect that the ports on the WRT54GL (I've one here) are on different controllers, and slightly differently configured |
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| 22:24.38 | rhapbit | TJ-, hm, that's interesting. Well, it's a "stock" tomato, haven't tinkered with it in any way. |
| 22:24.59 | some-cowbell | what's a tomato again? |
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| 22:25.17 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, I guess, but I just don't like the idea of using yet another switch/router |
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| 22:25.27 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, it's a firmware for the router |
| 22:26.01 | some-cowbell | what features does it have? |
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| 22:26.16 | TJ- | rhapbit: There are known issues when the WRT54GL ports are connected to a gigabit port, due to auto-MDI-X. Manually setting the connection mode can fix that |
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| 22:26.39 | rhapbit | TJ-, but it worked so far, grrr |
| 22:26.42 | TJ- | rhapbit: quote "Linksys routers seems to suffer from auto negotiate issue with their ethernet ports" |
| 22:26.44 | some-cowbell | TJ, from which side? |
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| 22:27.08 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, well, it has QOS for example |
| 22:27.09 | TJ- | some-cowbell: rhapbit using ethtool to set the PC port mode manually |
| 22:27.35 | some-cowbell | so on the router client side |
| 22:27.52 | some-cowbell | seems easy enough... |
| 22:27.52 | rhapbit | TJ-, not sure how to see what win is doing as compared to nix |
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| 22:28.34 | rhapbit | TJ-, surprisingly, it's a gygabit card... |
| 22:28.34 | TJ- | rhapbit: In Device Manager, adapter properties |
| 22:28.42 | TJ- | rhapbit: I wasn't surprised :) |
| 22:29.34 | rhapbit | TJ-, LOL :) So... what you are saying is that under win it connects as a gygabit card, but not under nix? |
| 22:29.39 | rhapbit | I'm rather new to this |
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| 22:30.16 | some-cowbell | it negotiates properly I guess |
| 22:30.53 | rhapbit | I guess that means that it's a software issue on the router side |
| 22:30.59 | TJ- | rhapbit: I'm saying the Windows driver causes auto-negotiation correctly, whereas the Linux driver doesn't |
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| 22:31.19 | rhapbit | But! I did work fine before, when I had ubuntu on this box |
| 22:31.20 | some-cowbell | and, we haven't ruled out the possibility that when the nix giganic tries, it puts the router port into a weird state |
| 22:31.31 | rhapbit | hm |
| 22:31.35 | TJ- | rhapbit: So, you may be able to use 'ethtool' on Linux to force a mode and get the port up, which would prove this hypothesis |
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| 22:32.35 | TJ- | rhapbit: If you can use 'ethtool' to get the port in 10Mbps duplex mode then work up to 100Mbps half then full duplex, and it works, then let the port auto-negotiate and it fails, you have evidence |
| 22:32.53 | some-cowbell | rhapbit: I had guessed that under ubuntu, you may have been connected to one of the working ports |
| 22:33.17 | rhapbit | TJ-, how do I do this with ethtool? |
| 22:33.41 | TJ- | rhapbit: You'll need to do some reading (and experimenting) starting with "man ethtool" |
| 22:33.59 | rhapbit | some-cowbell, I don't often move cables around and now that I tested it, neither the router or the ubuntu server want to work on the other ports |
| 22:34.10 | TJ- | rhapbit: You can do things like "autoneg off" |
| 22:34.11 | rhapbit | It didn't matter before where or what I plugged |
| 22:34.25 | Shadow_7 | there should be some auto-negotiation going on. Try turning on the router with the ifup state of the devices connected to it active. |
| 22:34.26 | rhapbit | TJ-, OK, will test it out tomorrow |
| 22:34.48 | TJ- | rhapbit: and setting modes like "advertise 0x002" for 10Mbps full duplex |
| 22:34.50 | rhapbit | TJ-, but I'm certain it's an issue with the router |
| 22:34.53 | anoob | i used to plug my network cable and "dhclient eth1" and it used to work ... recently it's not working anymore, i don't have internet ... "ifconfig -a" shows both eth0 and eth1 ... ping doesn't work at all ... |
| 22:35.01 | TJ- | rhapbit: I'm not |
| 22:35.30 | rhapbit | TJ-, ok, will report back tomorrow :) Thanks again, going to sleep! |
| 22:35.40 | rhapbit | Bye guys |
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| 22:36.01 | rhapbit | exit |
| 22:36.02 | rhapbit | opsie |
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| 22:37.02 | some-cowbell | anoob, noting that your net is working right now, if you could use a pastebin site to show us /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:37.09 | some-cowbell | that would be a good start |
| 22:37.43 | hatter_ | Why would I be able to boot a wheezy install on a 500Gb (which installs a Bios Boot Partition) but not be able to boot of a 4Tb that appeared to install succesfully but won't boot ? (it also installed a Bios Boot Partition) |
| 22:38.39 | some-cowbell | for one, you have to allow for the fact the 4tb has a different partition structure |
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| 22:39.12 | Shadow_7 | hatter_: motherboard firmware? |
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| 22:39.48 | Shadow_7 | I seem to recall needing something recent to use > 2TB drives |
| 22:41.11 | hatter_ | shadow_7, I have changed it back to IDE instead of AHCI, it has a BIOS Boot Partition which is required for drives greater than 2Tb |
| 22:41.43 | hatter_ | the firmware is UEFI which I thought was the problem, but then it installed fine on a 500Gb |
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| 22:42.29 | anoob | some-cowbell, thanks: http://pastebin.com/XPRmGWzp |
| 22:45.00 | some-cowbell | so you configured it static |
| 22:45.30 | anoob | i think the installer did it some-cowbell |
| 22:46.11 | some-cowbell | ok, so what is it you plug into? |
| 22:47.13 | anoob | some-cowbell, sorry, what you mean? |
| 22:47.41 | some-cowbell | do you use wired networking? |
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| 22:51.41 | Otyugh | hey |
| 22:51.44 | Otyugh | wondering |
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| 22:52.23 | mhoney | anyone with experience with the new hybrid sshd drives got time for a few questions? |
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| 22:52.27 | Otyugh | "the greffon GStream is missing for decoding H.264" |
| 22:52.32 | Otyugh | what package is that ? |
| 22:53.09 | Shadow_7 | I'd guess gstreamer and x264 |
| 22:53.23 | Otyugh | gstreamer has a lot of components |
| 22:54.06 | Shadow_7 | you'd probably start with x264 + libav-utils for video base abilities |
| 22:54.58 | Otyugh | libav-utils not found |
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| 22:56.07 | Shadow_7 | or libav-tools |
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| 22:56.28 | Shadow_7 | for avconv which is a fork of ffmpeg |
| 22:56.30 | Otyugh | much better :) |
| 22:57.01 | Otyugh | I wasn't aware ffmpeg was forked x) |
| 22:57.03 | anoob | yes some-cowbell |
| 22:57.26 | Shadow_7 | ffmpeg is still going, just debian uses avconv which forked from ffmpeg |
| 22:57.44 | Otyugh | arf |
| 22:57.47 | Otyugh | still same error |
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| 22:58.18 | Shadow_7 | a few minor syntax differences at this point and avconv seems more about speed and simplicity. With ffmpeg striving to be some sort of CLI full featured editor. by appearances |
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| 22:58.50 | Otyugh | ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-h264, stream-format=(string)byte-stream, alignment=(string)au, level=(string)2.1, profile=(string)constrained-baseline, width=(int)450, height=(int)360, framerate=(fraction)25/1, pixel-aspect-ratio=(fraction)1/1, parsed=(boolean)true |
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| 23:04.41 | Shadow_7 | Otyugh: perhaps install the gstreamer0.10-x264 package (the version in jessie) |
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| 23:06.51 | some-cowbell | anoob, if you use wired networking, there is a network cable involved at least between your computer and something |
| 23:06.59 | Otyugh | ,v gstreamer0.10-x264 |
| 23:07.00 | judd | Package: gstreamer0.10-x264 on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 0.10.17-0.0 |
| 23:07.24 | Otyugh | well Shadow_7 seem not to have upper versions :s |
| 23:07.55 | Otyugh | that is odd, right ? |
| 23:08.03 | Otyugh | is the name deprecated or something ? |
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| 23:08.35 | Shadow_7 | Is there a newer version? idk, I don't use that. avconv does most of what I need. |
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| 23:16.49 | rawfodog | my OS seams choppy. I was thinking it was the crappy on board intel card on my laptop. I was wondering what tweaks exist to ease up stress on the processor |
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| 23:20.46 | somiaj | rawfodog: what desktop are you running? Myabe run a light weight wm or desktop alternative. |
| 23:21.19 | somiaj | I'm assuming you are actually using the intell drivers for that card, you should check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and make sure it didn't fall back to vesa for some reason. |
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| 23:21.55 | whomp_ | if i ssh in and run "cmd &", then i leave, should cmd still be running? |
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| 23:23.02 | Shadow_7 | whomp_: it shouldn't. Under most configurations. screen and other things can be used to stuff like that. |
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| 23:23.36 | somiaj | whomp_: not unless you disown the app from the shell, or use screen/tmux or set up an init script to run as a daemon. |
| 23:24.02 | rryoumaa | is it only video? |
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| 23:24.40 | rawfodog | somiaj, I am using mate |
| 23:25.20 | Shadow_7 | rawfodog: does top show any process hogging all your resources? |
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| 23:27.07 | rawfodog | Shadow_7, Iceweasle and steam :3 |
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| 23:28.05 | Shadow_7 | rawfodog: having beefy cpu + loads of RAM + fast drives can help... But those intel things don't do 3D very well (yet) |
| 23:28.51 | rawfodog | yeah. I put in 4gigs. its a dual 1.8. Also added an ssd. It shouldn't lag. Just when a browser is on does it start to lag a bit. |
| 23:28.57 | rawfodog | Thanks for the advice |
| 23:29.15 | Shadow_7 | rawfodog: it should be fine for videos (if in supported codecs and low bitrates) |
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| 23:30.09 | Shadow_7 | As my desktop remains off while my raspberry pi seems to have become my desktop. |
| 23:31.07 | Shadow_7 | Never thought quiet + 10F cooler in my room would be this desirable. |
| 23:31.34 | rryoumaa | on my machine, the thing that makes it stutter makes everything stutter including each keystroke in irc. and that is rsync. and ionice and nice don't fix it. |
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| 23:32.05 | Shadow_7 | I tend to launch my browser with nice -n 18 |
| 23:32.16 | Shadow_7 | makes everything else so much smoother |
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| 23:33.49 | Shadow_7 | when I screen capture I renice X to -2 and avconv to -5. But my tech is ancient |
| 23:34.28 | Shadow_7 | by default everything userland runs at nice -n 0 |
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| 23:35.08 | Shadow_7 | which is the same level as X and can be undesirable |
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| 23:36.14 | Shadow_7 | Not that you'd notice much on anything modern with 4x 2GHz+ cores and 4GB+ of fast RAM. |
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| 23:36.46 | teraflops | cgroups exists :D |
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| 23:50.34 | somiaj | funyun: apt-cache search argvfile -- many perl libaries are already packaged, it appears that one is too |
| 23:52.01 | funyun | somiaj: thanks. how about Perl Pod::Usage? i can't find that one with search |
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| 23:52.09 | Shadow_7 | funyun: or apt-file find argvfile... seems like libgetopt-argvfile-perl meets the reqs under jessie |
| 23:52.18 | funyun | it says these are all cpan modules. but i don't understand how to install these.. |
| 23:52.29 | Shadow_7 | funyun: tried cpan.org ? |
| 23:52.52 | funyun | Shadow_7: yes. they're all there. but how do i install from there? |
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| 23:59.33 | somiaj | funyun: you might want to ask people more familar with perel, though there is dh_make_perl to automatic the process of building a cpan module on debian |
