| 00:00.09 | Juesto | MachinaeWolf: Other terminals and vttys dont have this issue? |
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| 00:00.33 | zykotick9 | A|an: are you currently running squeeze? if not, mixing binary repos probably isn't a good idea... |
| 00:00.40 | MachinaeWolf | Terminator doesn't, I was just going for a simpler terminal that would allow transparency in the settings |
| 00:01.00 | MachinaeWolf | yeah tty is fine as well |
| 00:01.18 | Juesto | MachinaeWolf: rvxt config files are separate from X* stuff, look for rvxt files in your $HOME, and .config as well, |
| 00:01.21 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: fyi, you need to call the file .Xdefault-YOURHOSTNAME |
| 00:01.26 | A|an | no, wheezy, but he package is only available from the squeeze oldstable archive |
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| 00:01.36 | MachinaeWolf | ohh |
| 00:01.36 | A|an | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=libdb4.8-dev |
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| 00:02.13 | A|an | I've gotta have it to install bitcoin |
| 00:02.36 | Juesto | A|an: Why install bitcoin? wont that "DDoS" your disk? |
| 00:02.40 | A|an | (it's what I did on my previous installation (I've reinstalled to a new SSD)) |
| 00:02.44 | themill | Juesto: removing the init script from /etc/init.d and then rerunning your remove command should work |
| 00:02.48 | A|an | nooo... |
| 00:02.48 | MachinaeWolf | nope, no rxvt files in ~/home/. or ~/home/.config/ as far as I can tell |
| 00:02.51 | Juesto | themill: Okay. |
| 00:02.54 | MachinaeWolf | I'll try the hostname trick |
| 00:03.11 | A|an | I guess I'll have to look at my old sources.list |
| 00:03.16 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: it's not a "trick"... |
| 00:03.24 | Juesto | MachinaeWolf: Or other folders, or urxvt files :P |
| 00:03.29 | A|an | I included oldstable in some appropriate syntax |
| 00:03.37 | Juesto | A|an: its oldstable main |
| 00:03.43 | A|an | thanks |
| 00:03.46 | Juesto | A|an: Read sources.list synthax |
| 00:03.52 | A|an | ok |
| 00:03.58 | MachinaeWolf | What's the syntax on that hostname bit, it's not accepting that... |
| 00:04.15 | Juesto | A|an: re-read it, the examples cleanly tells you how you should do it |
| 00:04.19 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: if you box is named foo then .Xdefault-foo |
| 00:04.37 | Juesto | zykotick9: why going into such thing? |
| 00:04.43 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: sorry, .Xdefaults-foo |
| 00:04.52 | A|an | thanks |
| 00:04.58 | MachinaeWolf | xrdb: No such file or directory |
| 00:05.01 | MachinaeWolf | xrdb: can't open file '/home/todd/.Xresources-shadow_lugia' |
| 00:05.17 | MachinaeWolf | hostname is shadow_lugia |
| 00:05.30 | Juesto | MachinaeWolf: permissions? |
| 00:05.32 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: ahhh, .Xresource != .Xdefaults |
| 00:05.40 | Juesto | XD |
| 00:05.51 | MachinaeWolf | d'oh so I should be using the xdefaults? |
| 00:06.05 | Juesto | zykotick9: he's trying to change urxvt settings or something |
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| 00:06.17 | MachinaeWolf | yep |
| 00:06.34 | Juesto | themill: Well, how i make xtell not fail again? i wanted to install it in first place. |
| 00:06.37 | zykotick9 | Juesto: MachinaeWolf i use .Xdefaults-MYHOSTNAME to configure my rxvt-unicode (aka urxvt) |
| 00:06.46 | Juesto | lol :P |
| 00:06.58 | MachinaeWolf | ok I'll try that |
| 00:07.22 | MachinaeWolf | same error and yes I have permission for my home directory... |
| 00:07.31 | Juesto | MachinaeWolf: and the file itself? |
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| 00:07.39 | MachinaeWolf | yeah |
| 00:07.47 | Juesto | check. |
| 00:08.04 | Juesto | nevermind if you just did :P |
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| 00:08.20 | Juesto | How i prevent xtell not to fail again? |
| 00:08.40 | Juesto | How i prevent xtell from failing again?** |
| 00:08.59 | MachinaeWolf | checked and yep |
| 00:09.24 | MachinaeWolf | the file itself is just called .Xdefaults though... |
| 00:09.37 | Juesto | I wonder why xtell fails when not using init.d script |
| 00:09.42 | zykotick9 | .Xdefaults isn't going to do anything... |
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| 00:10.09 | Juesto | why xtell fails without being inetd? |
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| 00:11.26 | MachinaeWolf | well the same goes for the .Xresources file that's it's name... |
| 00:11.55 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: i believe .Xresources is correct... i don't use it however... |
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| 00:13.44 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: assuming you've configured .Xdeafults correctly, try "mv .Xdefaults .Xdefaults-YOURHOSTNAME" (changing YOURHOSTNAME to your actual box's name) |
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| 00:14.07 | MachinaeWolf | ok |
| 00:14.10 | Reelax | when a make a script executable , from properties window, why is it rolling back ?? |
| 00:14.31 | zykotick9 | Reelax: is it on a FAT or NTFS partition? |
| 00:15.03 | MachinaeWolf | well that worked but the changing of colors didn't... |
| 00:15.17 | Reelax | zykotick9: ntfs :( |
| 00:15.37 | zykotick9 | Reelax: thats why. use a better filesystem = problem solved. |
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| 00:16.52 | Reelax | zykotick9: ok thanks ! |
| 00:16.55 | zykotick9 | Reelax: translation, FAT/NTFS doesn't support POSIX permissions (that you're trying to apply) |
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| 00:24.38 | Coweater | when gdm shows this silly arrow animation what do i do to get a login prompt? |
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| 00:46.36 | zykotick9 | Coweater: i have no idea what you're refering to, but perhaps "ctrl+alt+f1" then login as root, and "service gdm restart" perhaps? (or salt-to-taste with sudo) |
| 00:47.06 | zykotick9 | Coweater: sorry, it's probably gdm3 |
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| 00:47.42 | zykotick9 | doesn't use gdm/gdm3 so is at a disadvantage here |
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| 00:59.06 | andrew | hey guys, newbie here. I'm having trouble intalling drivers. I googled it and nothing I've tried is working, can anyone help me out? |
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| 01:00.15 | zykotick9 | andrew: perhaps stating what driver(s) you're trying to install would help... best of luck |
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| 01:00.48 | andrew | ati mobility radeon HD 5850 drivers. its a laptop |
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| 01:02.05 | zykotick9 | andrew: i don't really help with ATI issues, but have you added the non-free repo and installed the non-free firmware package? anyways, good luck. |
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| 01:03.12 | andrew | zykotick9: no, i've downloaded the drivers from the website. I then ran into through terminal but it says i'm missing dependencies |
| 01:03.54 | zykotick9 | andrew: oh, if you've installed a driver from ati's site - then i'd personally consider your install "broken", best of luck - you might need it. |
| 01:04.33 | andrew | what is that supposed to mean? |
| 01:04.38 | andrew | I did something wrong? |
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| 01:05.48 | zykotick9 | !tell andrew about ati |
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| 01:06.47 | zykotick9 | andrew: according to that factoid, you might want to try in the #ati |
| 01:07.18 | zykotick9 | andrew: using debian's method(s) support could be offered here (but NOT by me ;) |
| 01:07.38 | andrew | ok thank you |
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| 01:09.20 | Volkard | So I get back home today and I see a weird fishing boat harboring on our dock, and a bunch of drunk teenagers bonfiring on our beach, playing guitar and drinking vodka. |
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| 01:09.58 | zykotick9 | Volkard: and that's a debian support issue how? |
| 01:10.17 | Juesto | Volkard: Doesn't that go to #defocus? |
| 01:10.25 | Volkard | sorry |
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| 01:13.44 | anton02 | how do you check what time it was when your computer last went to sleep? |
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| 01:16.37 | somiaj | anton02: check the logs, there is a pm-utils or pm-suspend log in /var/log |
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| 01:20.15 | anton02 | thanks. i closed my laptop lid just before i went to sleep and wanted to know how long i was sleeping for. turns out i was sleeping for over an hour but i strangely dont feel all that rested |
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| 01:24.36 | anton02 | benefits of linux over windows eh |
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| 01:26.29 | somiaj | anton02: windows does keep good logs |
| 01:27.18 | zykotick9 | somiaj: what? is that sarcasm? |
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| 01:39.16 | Reelax | hi, if i delete, re-create swap partition and make it swapon, will linux automatically know where the swap partition is ? |
| 01:39.39 | dvs | Reelax: yes |
| 01:39.45 | rjsalts | Reelax: if it's in /etc/fstab |
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| 01:41.34 | Reelax | i don't wanna touch that file, will gparted arrange it for me ? |
| 01:41.44 | dvs | nope |
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| 01:44.50 | dbb0 | Are these tiny cd links wrong or am I missing something? https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 01:46.04 | dbb0 | I looked at the manifest as indicated. Still don't see any images |
| 01:46.15 | Reelax | ok thanks. |
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| 01:46.48 | rjsalts | dbb0: see the media section down the side? |
| 01:47.21 | dbb0 | yes, i looked in the hd-media dir |
| 01:47.27 | dbb0 | seems to just have a kernel |
| 01:48.35 | rjsalts | dbb0: and an initrd |
| 01:48.54 | rjsalts | dbb0: and boot.img.gz |
| 01:49.15 | dbb0 | so there's no image file then |
| 01:50.04 | zykotick9 | dbb0: are you sure it's hd-media you want? do you know what that is? |
| 01:50.04 | rjsalts | dbb0: it's not boot.img.gz? |
| 01:50.28 | A|an | What's the difference between qt 4 and 5? |
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| 01:50.38 | zykotick9 | 1 |
| 01:50.47 | dbb0 | the installation guide says cd/dvd image should be written directly to the usb stick |
| 01:51.12 | zykotick9 | dbb0: but that's NOT hd-media... |
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| 01:51.25 | dvs | dbb0: Yes, and those aren't it |
| 01:51.44 | dbb0 | then why is that linked under the "USB sticks" section of the downloads page? |
| 01:51.54 | themill | dbb0: you want "small CDs" |
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| 01:54.15 | dbb0 | then just cp the image to the unmounted drive? seems strange |
| 01:54.23 | dbb0 | i though you needed to use dd |
| 01:54.27 | k-man | is pgrep installed by default usually? |
| 01:54.38 | nevyn | !installed |
| 01:54.39 | dpkg | To list installed packages, dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; or aptitude search -F '%p' '~i'; or ask me about <aptitude clone>, <debian clone>. See also <installed test>. For one package, use "dpkg -l packagename" or "apt-cache policy packagename" or (from squeeze onwards) "aptitude versions packagename". |
| 01:54.45 | A|an | Is qt 5 available for wheezy? |
| 01:55.07 | zykotick9 | dbb0: cp or cat can work. be sure to copy to the drive itself, and not a partition (so for example: sdb, and NOT sdb1 type thing) |
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| 01:56.03 | k-man | nevyn, could i rely in pgrep in a sysvinit script? |
| 01:56.11 | k-man | on pgrep being there i mean |
| 01:57.18 | nevyn | I don't think so. |
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| 01:57.40 | nevyn | is it in base or core or whatever the list you're allowed to rely on? |
| 01:57.59 | k-man | no idea |
| 01:58.02 | themill | k-man: procps is Priority: important so it *should* be on the system, but you shoudl depend on it |
| 01:58.03 | k-man | how does one check that? |
| 01:58.11 | k-man | themill, ah thanks |
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| 03:25.45 | grim4593 | (rainfyre): that sucks :( |
| 03:25.58 | dvs | ??? |
| 03:26.18 | grim4593 | Yes? |
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| 03:34.49 | Reelax | Q: if there is no fstab file, OS will not boot, correct ? |
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| 03:36.53 | dvs | correct |
| 03:37.21 | Reelax | dvs: mine is gone in a virtualbox partition, how to get it back ? |
| 03:38.04 | Reelax | with chroot, grub is it possible ? |
| 03:38.25 | dvs | nope, it's gone |
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| 03:48.41 | wols | dvs: it will boot: root=/dev/sda1 |
| 03:49.21 | wols | Reelax: what is your actual problem? |
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| 03:52.46 | Reelax | wols: need to install grub on a partitoned i rsynced a root directory in. |
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| 04:07.31 | Fare | hi. where can I get help about git-buildpackage? Up until now, it was happy with not having upstream/ as a prefix for upstream version tags, using directly, e.g. 3.0.3 but somehow I can't reproduce that |
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| 04:27.56 | wicd_u530 | hello, I am having some issues with getting wifi drivers to work with my debian installation on a lenovo ultrabook (u530), and I was hoping to get some help |
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| 04:48.23 | Fare | finds --git-upstream-tag="%(version)s" |
| 04:48.31 | Fare | it's in the --help but not in the man |
| 04:49.12 | wols | !tell Reelax about fixmbr |
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| 05:00.38 | TheLegace | hi, ive been googling around on getting my old powermac g4 to boot debian |
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| 05:01.10 | TheLegace | it seems to boot up ok |
| 05:01.24 | TheLegace | but i cant seem to load LXDE |
| 05:02.11 | TheLegace | but even getting into text mode seems to be a hassle |
| 05:02.37 | TheLegace | i want to try and login just through terminal but ctrl-alt-F keys dont seem to do anything |
| 05:02.42 | TheLegace | using yaboot |
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| 05:03.47 | peterrooney | TheLegace: do you get to a login manager at all? Also, #debianppc |
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| 05:04.09 | TheLegace | peterrooney: no login manager but i found a ubuntu page with yaboot parameters to disable video |
| 05:04.15 | TheLegace | so im going to try that and see where that takes me |
| 05:04.21 | TheLegace | at least i can have a terminal to send commands |
| 05:05.17 | TheLegace | can't tell if i have pci or agp gfx |
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| 05:06.28 | justanotheruser | Hi, I am wondering if there is an easy way to encrypt the volume when installing Debian. I don't see the option anywhere |
| 05:07.28 | TheLegace | ok well it looks like it hangs |
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| 05:13.47 | melt7777 | justanotheruser, take the drive out and shake it really good to scramble the files |
| 05:13.58 | Fare | justanotheruser, there must be, since I'm using it, but I have no remembrance how I did it long ago |
| 05:14.21 | melt7777 | justanotheruser, during install choose "guided partitioning choose encrypted LVM" |
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| 05:14.31 | Fare | these days, I use a work-managed ubuntu machine at work, and nixos at home |
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| 05:20.36 | justanotheruser | melt7777: for some reason that isn't an option in the partitioning section |
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| 05:22.45 | melt7777 | should be guided, guided encrypted, lvm, etc |
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| 05:27.15 | justanotheruser | melt7777: http://imgur.com/SACRL8o |
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| 05:27.59 | melt7777 | the screen before that, you're in the manual partitioning section |
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| 05:28.14 | melt7777 | unless it's in one of the settings of an individual partition |
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| 05:29.06 | justanotheruser | melt7777: its guided (full disk) or manual on the previous screen |
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| 05:30.03 | melt7777 | only the 2 options? |
| 05:30.16 | melt7777 | what are u isntalling exactly? wheezy amd64? |
| 05:30.40 | justanotheruser | melt7777: yes |
| 05:30.54 | melt7777 | maybe Debian User Forums • View topic - Encrypted LVM install on Debian ...: <http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=103619> |
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| 05:31.56 | melt7777 | Try Configure Encrypted Volums |
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| 05:32.01 | melt7777 | in the partition list |
| 05:32.22 | melt7777 | or read that article i found as the FIRST thing in a google search for that. |
| 05:32.29 | melt7777 | SLAP |
| 05:33.15 | justanotheruser | melt7777: I don't see those options when I use a single partition and not the full disk. |
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| 05:33.44 | justanotheruser | actually, I don't see them for full disk either |
| 05:33.51 | melt7777 | justanotheruser, Look at the PDF file in that forum post in detail it will guide you. You're dismissed - i am going to sleep |
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| 05:35.38 | justanotheruser | melt7777: I have followed it and I don't have those options... |
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| 05:36.22 | hid3 | Hello everyone. Is there any way to rename bunch of files removing spaces from the file names and replacing the spaces with underscores ("_")? |
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| 05:38.05 | arcke | hid3: there are ways to this using sed |
| 05:39.30 | arcke | hid3: can you use shell scripting? |
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| 05:40.30 | arcke | hid3: also, mmv is a tool made for such tasks iirc |
| 05:40.41 | hid3 | indeed |
| 05:40.47 | rryoumaa | emacs can do it if it is not a huge number of paths |
| 05:40.48 | hid3 | I was hoping to do that with find |
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| 05:41.16 | hid3 | find . -iname *somestring* -exec <something> |
| 05:43.29 | rryoumaa | yeah you really want a more powerful find language, but then it would get even more idiosyncratic |
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| 05:44.56 | arcke | it can execute anything, sounds powerful to me |
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| 05:46.37 | Voyage | Hi |
| 05:48.56 | Voyage | If I want to implement https on my apache httpd server. Do I need to pay some one for CA or its free? |
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| 05:50.01 | arcke | you can use custom certificates or less official authoririties and users will get a dialog asking to confirm the certificate |
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| 05:53.07 | arcke | Voyage: "free ways" of getting certification exist, but these authorities are not installed by default in browsers |
| 05:53.27 | Voyage | hm |
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| 05:55.53 | Voyage | arcke, CAcert.org is a community-driven Certificate Authority that issues certificates to the public at large for free. so, I would have to use some master certicifacte in my apache httpd config , (that I got from cacert.org)? |
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| 05:57.14 | Voyage | so the server actually SHOULD have the root CA in its configs? |
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| 05:58.22 | petern_ | Voyage, only if your server needs to verify certificates. |
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| 05:59.25 | petern_ | It's handy to have intermediate CAs handed out by the webserver, but not the root CA especially. |
| 06:00.17 | Voyage | petern_, this is deep. I need to read. Is there some good site? |
| 06:00.41 | petern_ | Probably, I don't know offhand though. |
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| 06:04.06 | Juesto | How do i configure the proper FQDN on a wheezy server |
| 06:04.35 | Juesto | and after that, how i make the proper CA Root certs? |
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| 06:05.20 | Juesto | Help? |
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| 06:07.04 | petern_ | put the hostname in /etc/hostname |
| 06:07.50 | petern_ | as for domainname, for me it seems to be magic and just works off /etc/hosts 127.0.1.1 entry |
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| 06:08.46 | Juesto | Domain name is what is NOT working. :( |
| 06:08.50 | Juesto | petern_: ^ |
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| 06:09.20 | Juesto | Should i name it how i want then? |
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| 06:09.26 | Juesto | and add the extra magic on hosts? |
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| 06:09.42 | Juesto | i've ran into a problem with xauth and displays. |
| 06:10.00 | Juesto | that it complains bad hostname or whatever |
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| 06:14.15 | Voyage | petern_, arcke can i make my own self signed cert? |
| 06:15.11 | Juesto | Should i make a CA authority or a self signed cert for online https? |
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| 06:16.10 | Juesto | Guys |
| 06:16.15 | Juesto | Anyone alive? |
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| 06:17.30 | Voyage | Juesto, if you want free, cacert.org |
| 06:17.45 | Juesto | i want to make my own CA authority |
| 06:18.05 | Voyage | ok |
| 06:18.06 | Voyage | you can |
| 06:18.10 | Juesto | How |
| 06:18.16 | Voyage | dont know. |
| 06:18.20 | Voyage | google? |
| 06:18.34 | Juesto | found complex stuff :( |
| 06:18.55 | Juesto | and im trying to match the proper FQDN |
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| 06:19.47 | petern_ | well that's easy enough, you just make sure the cn (common name) on the cert is the same as the name you use to connect to the server |
| 06:20.03 | petern_ | that doesn't need server configuration |
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| 06:21.08 | Juesto | petern_: after making the required hostname changes should i restart services? |
| 06:21.12 | Juesto | apache2 in this case |
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| 06:22.54 | petern_ | can do, i don't think apache cares though |
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| 06:24.48 | Juesto | http://paste.debian.net/99871 <-- this is realvnc virtual server log when i try to execute it as normal user trough sudo -l |
| 06:25.22 | Juesto | I've just changed the hostname and its working |
| 06:25.41 | Juesto | i now have the fqdn i required, now, how do i make up the cert |
| 06:26.20 | Juesto | i mean, how do i generate a CA authority = self (but NOT self signed cert) certificate? |
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| 06:26.50 | Juesto | and without expiration if possible (or "unreachable" dates) |
| 06:26.52 | Juesto | Any help? |
| 06:27.00 | Juesto | petern_ ? |
| 06:27.08 | petern_ | loads of ways, i tend to use tinyca2 myself |
| 06:27.19 | Juesto | An easy one? |
| 06:27.25 | petern_ | which i don't run on any server |
| 06:27.55 | petern_ | tinyca2 is pretty easy, it's all gui |
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| 06:28.43 | Juesto | i would like to know how do i create a certificate with the stock tools and with the "guidelines"/requirements said adove using built-in tools.... |
| 06:28.51 | Juesto | on wheezy. |
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| 06:29.18 | Juesto | ... |
| 06:29.21 | petern_ | .. |
| 06:29.26 | Juesto | ^^^ |
| 06:29.40 | petern_ | oh the package is tinyca, but the binary is tinyca2, confusing |
| 06:30.10 | Juesto | petern_: well, you highly recommend it? |
| 06:30.28 | petern_ | i don't recommend anything, it's just what i use |
| 06:30.32 | Juesto | Oh |
| 06:30.47 | Juesto | im looking for an easy way for this :| |
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| 06:32.01 | Juesto | Anyone..? ugh |
| 06:32.03 | petern_ | apt-cache search certificate authority |
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| 06:32.29 | petern_ | or just use openssl's command line tool |
| 06:32.57 | Juesto | Which the commandline would be for my requirements? |
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| 06:35.59 | Psil0Cybin | hey guys using a debian like distro when i am using an encrypted LVM I keep getting this |
| 06:36.00 | Psil0Cybin | hey guys i keep getting one or more block devices are holding /dev/dm-0 |
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| 06:36.03 | Psil0Cybin | when i try to access my hard drive |
| 06:36.23 | bazhang | Psil0Cybin, debian like? |
| 06:36.53 | Juesto | Psil0Cybin: if the appropiate debian like distro haves its own channel please talk there. (smells ubuntu) |
| 06:37.42 | Juesto | petern_: lol, tinyca haves a bug |
| 06:37.59 | Psil0Cybin | kali? |
| 06:38.04 | Psil0Cybin | i think tis using debian wheezy |
| 06:38.16 | bazhang | they have a support channel |
| 06:38.24 | Psil0Cybin | okay sorry guys |
| 06:38.36 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.41 | Juesto | Psil0Cybin: as i said, talk to the proper channel and kali is more ubuntu based fyi |
| 06:38.47 | Psil0Cybin | oh is it |
| 06:38.51 | Psil0Cybin | okay sorry then thank you |
| 06:38.59 | Juesto | Sort of. Good luck |
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| 06:40.38 | Juesto | serious bugs of tinyca (-> 0.7.5-4) <marked as done in some version> |
| 06:40.49 | Juesto | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.56 | Juesto | petern_: ^ |
| 06:41.51 | Juesto | Does the Country need to be valid? for the ca |
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| 06:42.41 | Juesto | CN = FQDN? |
| 06:42.44 | petern_ | set whatever you need |
| 06:42.59 | Juesto | petern_: CN = FQDN? |
| 06:43.10 | petern_ | for the server cert, yes. not for the ca acert. |
| 06:43.12 | petern_ | -a |
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| 06:43.32 | Juesto | im using tinyCA |
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| 06:43.58 | petern_ | doesn't change my answer. |
| 06:43.59 | Juesto | petern_: Would i need to make more than one cert? |
| 06:44.22 | Juesto | ... What is the commandline to create a CA authority |
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| 06:45.10 | petern_ | you wanted to create a CA, therefore you'll have a ca cert and a cert for the server. |
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| 06:47.48 | Juesto | petern_: Okay, What command line i would need to type to achieve said goal? |
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| 08:06.47 | ABDU1989 | Problem in the kernel did not add to the boot loader |
| 08:06.50 | ABDU1989 | http://im89.gulfup.com/IAYSH4.png |
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| 08:08.33 | ABDU1989 | http://paste.debian.net/99885/ |
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| 08:12.29 | ABDU1989 | Problem in the kernel did not add to the boot loader |
| 08:12.32 | ABDU1989 | http://paste.debian.net/99885/ |
| 08:12.40 | ABDU1989 | http://im89.gulfup.com/IAYSH4.png |
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| 08:16.15 | Gr11 | Hi guys |
| 08:16.29 | Gr11 | I changed ulimit open file limit for all user from limits.conf |
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| 08:16.39 | Gr11 | But it is not reflecting for one particular user |
| 08:17.00 | Gr11 | For all other users, it is reflecting |
| 08:17.23 | Gr11 | What am I doing wrong ? |
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| 08:19.32 | ABDU1989 | Problem in the kernel did not add to the boot loader |
| 08:19.35 | ABDU1989 | http://paste.debian.net/99885/ |
| 08:19.40 | ABDU1989 | http://im89.gulfup.com/IAYSH4.png |
| 08:20.28 | babilen | ABDU1989: Could you paste the output of "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" to http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 08:21.15 | babilen | (and there is typically no need to repeat a question every five minutes if the channel is as serene as it is now) |
| 08:24.31 | ABDU1989 | babilen, |
| 08:24.32 | ABDU1989 | Kernel Thread does not appear in the boot loader |
| 08:24.58 | babilen | ABDU1989: Yes, please show me the output of that command I mentioned earlier. |
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| 08:25.47 | ABDU1989 | how |
| 08:26.04 | babilen | ABDU1989: Run it and copy its output to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 08:28.28 | ABDU1989 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/99887/ |
| 08:29.23 | babilen | ABDU1989: That is not the command I mentioned. I want you to run "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" |
| 08:32.55 | ABDU1989 | babilen, Give me complete it if allowed |
| 08:33.09 | babilen | What? |
| 08:33.23 | ABDU1989 | I am new in Linux |
| 08:34.01 | babilen | Sure, that is no problem. Please open a terminal and run "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" (without the ") and paste the output of that to http://paste.debian.net |
| 08:34.15 | babilen | Do you know how to do that? If not: What are you having troubles with? |
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| 08:35.57 | ABDU1989 | so aptitude search |
| 08:36.35 | babilen | ABDU1989: Did you manage to open a terminal? |
| 08:37.04 | ABDU1989 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/99889/ |
| 08:37.45 | ABDU1989 | sory |
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| 08:38.44 | babilen | ABDU1989: No problem -- Okay, so you installed a backported kernel. Could you run "apt-get install pastebinit" and then "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg" please and give me that link? |
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| 08:42.20 | ABDU1989 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/99894/ |
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| 08:46.26 | babilen | ABDU1989: Ah, you didn't actually install the kernel. |
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| 08:47.09 | wrksx | hey there |
| 08:47.29 | babilen | ABDU1989: You installed linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae-dbg which is the debug package, but you want linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae. Please run "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-686-pae" |
| 08:47.29 | wrksx | I just found out my box is not on the good time |
| 08:47.53 | wrksx | what is the better way to set time in a debian environement ? |
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| 08:48.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell wrksx about ntp |
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| 08:49.25 | babilen | ABDU1989: Any particular reason you installed i386 (32bit) and not amd64 (64bit) by the way? |
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| 08:51.20 | ABDU1989 | babilen, 686 64? |
| 08:52.43 | petern_ | heh, i still use 32bit cpus ;p |
| 08:53.09 | eugenmayer | hello, after a dist-upgrade of a debian squeeze server ( installed on a software-raid + lvm/root lvm/var and /dev/md0 as /boo ) i cant get grup working again. After rebooting, i got symbol not found grub_divmod64_full .. now i booted a resuce system and trying to repair grub, but evertime i try to install it i get: http://pastie.org/9181077 |
| 08:53.21 | ABDU1989 | my cpus 32 |
| 08:53.39 | eugenmayer | i have found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/681535 .. eventhough thats ubuntu, i just found it. Is there a similar issue on wheezy ( relax, i dont have ubuntu :) ) |
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| 08:54.33 | eugenmayer | I have a GPT based partition + 2x 3TB hardrives. It somehow seems to be related to GPT and drives > 2TB? |
| 08:54.40 | eugenmayer | (or is this FUD?) |
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| 08:55.15 | krpt | how do i list scripts loaded at startup ? |
| 08:55.42 | krpt | i know update-rc to add one.. |
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| 08:59.20 | ABDU1989 | babilen, What is the kernel that must be installed my cpus 32 |
| 08:59.22 | bezaban | krpt: scripts are in /etc/rcX.d for each runlevel X |
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| 09:00.11 | bezaban | ones that start with K stop a service/script, S starts them. They are generally symlinks to scripts in /etc/init.d |
| 09:00.39 | bezaban | oo. lunch train passing by |
| 09:00.40 | Turingi | would iceweasel implement the firefox DRM solution? |
| 09:00.53 | Tachyon` | I'd assume so, iceweasel /is/ firefox in all but name |
| 09:01.13 | Turingi | wouldn't there be problems license-wise at least? |
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| 09:01.21 | Tachyon` | that's why it's called iceweasel |
| 09:01.33 | Tachyon` | but I doubt it, heh |
| 09:01.40 | Tachyon` | whether we want drm is quite another question |
| 09:01.51 | Tachyon` | I'm not sure why they're not just declining to implement it but heh |
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| 09:01.56 | Turingi | would the debian project be opposed to firefox drm? |
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| 09:02.19 | Tachyon` | not sure anyone can speak for the whole project |
| 09:02.36 | Tachyon` | but I personally think DRM will not be good for anyone, as has been shown in the past |
| 09:03.00 | Turingi | it could encourage everyone to deliver content via it |
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| 09:03.05 | Tachyon` | well, other than people who sleep on piles of cash, it'll probably be good for them -.o |
| 09:03.05 | Turingi | for instance, newspapers |
| 09:03.23 | wrksx | thanks babilen |
| 09:03.44 | koollman | Turingi: Would it stop anyone (or, more than a few) if it was not in firefox ? |
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| 09:04.13 | Turingi | if firefox took a principled stance against it, it could stop widespread adoption |
| 09:04.17 | ABDU1989 | babilen, You are here |
| 09:04.38 | koollman | Turingi: I do not think so. |
| 09:05.18 | koollman | Turingi: "hey, you need this plugin to watch our content". done. |
| 09:05.44 | Turingi | of course, there are other "ways" to get content |
| 09:06.49 | wrksx | as a root I'm trying to "ntpq -p" which gives me this error: "ntpq: read: Connection refused" |
| 09:07.03 | wrksx | any known traps ? |
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| 09:12.55 | wrksx | service wasn't running, it's fixed. NTP works perfectly thanks |
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| 09:21.00 | abdu89_ | babilen Please help me |
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| 09:21.56 | gdm85 | I am having a libc6 problem with postgresql 9.3 (on wheezy) |
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| 09:22.11 | babilen | abdu89_: I already did, run "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-686-pae" if you want to install the backported kernel. You only installed the debug (-dbg) package. Also read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html |
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| 09:22.19 | gdm85 | has anybody tried to install PostgreSQL 9.3 (from vendor, not from official Debian repos)? |
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| 09:23.04 | abdu89_ | thinks |
| 09:23.24 | tyll_ | How can I make the debian install not set a locale with a preeseed file? |
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| 09:23.39 | tyll_ | I would like /etc/defaults/locale to be empty or completely commented |
| 09:23.51 | gdm85 | tyll_: isn't that the default? |
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| 09:24.20 | RKo | hi |
| 09:24.47 | tyll_ | gdm85: hm, it does not seem to be or I made an mistake |
| 09:26.52 | petn-randall | gdm85: Which repo are you using for that? |
| 09:27.29 | RKo | I have an nfs issue. I use automounter to mount an nfs share. Right now it seems unmounted, but the directory in the filesystem where automount would mount it exists. It seems to be in a funny state. Anything I try to do with it (ls, umount, umount -l -f , etc) fails. When I strace these commands, it seems they are all stuck on readlink(), stat(), etc. for that directory. Anyone could suggest any solution?? |
| 09:27.30 | gdm85 | petn-randall: apt.postgresql.org |
| 09:27.49 | gdm85 | tyll_: afaik it's always all-commented, at least if I debootstrap |
| 09:28.06 | joltcan | RKo: force unmount, restart automount maybe? |
| 09:28.25 | ebfull | how can i figure out what experimental packages i have installed? |
| 09:28.42 | RKo | joltcan, I tried force, it's the same issue ... mount is stuck on readlink() |
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| 09:29.08 | RKo | I dare not restart automounter, I fear it will be stuck as well and the situ will be even worse ... |
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| 09:29.27 | RKo | maybe my only choice is a reboot :-/ |
| 09:29.55 | stef1 | :p |
| 09:29.55 | RKo | I just wanted to get some help so I can understand better what happens ... |
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| 09:31.19 | petn-randall | gdm85: Works fine here on one of my servers. What problems do you observe exactly? |
| 09:31.25 | petn-randall | !tell gdm85 -about bat |
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| 09:31.55 | gdm85 | petn-randall: it complains about libc: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.13-38+deb7u1 is to be installed |
| 09:32.03 | gdm85 | maybe I can override that |
| 09:32.19 | petn-randall | gdm85: Looks like you have the wrong repo in there. What is your complete sources.list? |
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| 09:32.53 | petn-randall | gdm85: → http://paste.debian.net |
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| 09:33.12 | superlinux-hp | hi. I built freeradius from tarball. and I have built also a newer version of openssl from tarball too. now when I run freeradius using radiusd -X, it's still using the older version of libssl.a . now how can I tell freeradius which version of libssl to use? |
| 09:33.36 | jelly | gdm85: you're trying to install a binary package built for a different distro onto Debian, that's almost never a good idea |
| 09:33.42 | gdm85 | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/s2LuRzef |
| 09:33.50 | eugenmayer | hello, after a dist-upgrade of a debian squeeze server ( installed on a software-raid + lvm/root lvm/var and /dev/md0 as /boo ) i cant get grup working again. After rebooting, i got symbol not found grub_divmod64_full .. now i booted a resuce system and trying to repair grub, but evertime i try to install it i get: http://pastie.org/9181077 |
| 09:33.54 | gdm85 | jelly: I think you've got a clue there |
| 09:34.00 | joltcan | RKo: Sounds like the usual issue when NFS stops to work, could be due to network issues, server closed down or something completely different |
| 09:34.00 | RKo | superlinux, maybe play around with LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
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| 09:34.13 | eugenmayer | i have foundhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/681535 .. eventhough thats ubuntu, i just found it. Is there a similar issue on wheezy ( relax, i dont have ubuntu ) I have a GPT based partition + 2x 3TB hardrives. It somehow seems to be related to GPT and drives > 2TB? (or is this FUD?) |
| 09:34.32 | jelly | gdm85: if it's open source, rebuild it, if it's closed, complain to the vendor |
| 09:34.37 | RKo | joltcan, server works fine, and the mountpoint does not show up in mount list with command, or /proc |
| 09:34.48 | gdm85 | jelly: the thing is, I've read that this guy did it, thus I was puzzled by the dep error: http://www.pontikis.net/blog/postgresql-9-debian-7-wheezy |
| 09:34.59 | RKo | I think the fact of the mount is somehow stuck in the kernel somehow |
| 09:35.06 | jelly | gdm85: or run inside a chroot of testing or the correct ubuntu release they built for. |
| 09:35.10 | petn-randall | gdm85: Where ist the apt.postgresql.org mirror? |
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| 09:35.56 | superlinux-hp | just remind me, there is this env variable called LD_..something.. ? what is it called exactly? |
| 09:35.57 | petn-randall | gdm85: I don't see it in your sources.list. |
| 09:35.58 | gdm85 | petn-randall: so you have libc6 >= 2.15 on your Debian Wheezy? the full path is: deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ precise-pgdg main |
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| 09:36.04 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: the dist-upgrade was just to update within squeeze, or to update to wheezy? |
| 09:36.09 | gdm85 | petn-randall: sorry, was in an addendum. I am a moron, it says precise! |
| 09:36.15 | SynrGy | upgrade* |
| 09:36.28 | petn-randall | gdm85: Yep, you had the wrong repo there. :) |
| 09:36.33 | gdm85 | petn-randall: I completely didn't notice that precise-pgng.. |
| 09:36.38 | gdm85 | thanks guys :) |
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| 09:36.46 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, within squeeze |
| 09:36.52 | eugenmayer1 | (did that make sense? ) |
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| 09:39.01 | stormy3 | any one had experince of setting a l2tp client up and any how tos? one i found dated back to 2010! |
| 09:39.03 | RKo | joltcan: well, thanks anyway, seems I need a reboot |
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| 09:40.29 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: dunno. on my only raid system i don't install grub to md0. i install it twice, once to each drive |
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| 09:40.55 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: that makes sense, but even if i install it ot sda and sdb it wont work |
| 09:41.06 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: because? |
| 09:41.20 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: http://pastie.org/9181246 |
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| 09:42.43 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: and your device.map is correct? |
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| 09:42.56 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: looks good, i even deleted and regenerated it - no help |
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| 09:43.41 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: the ubuntu bug you dredged up seems like multiple people with same symptom reporting different problems. so ... very confusing :p |
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| 09:44.19 | eugenmayer1 | ubuntu - confusing by the book because people without knowledge try to do vodoo |
| 09:44.20 | jelly | ubuntu's bts is full of crap like that |
| 09:44.26 | eugenmayer1 | signed. |
| 09:44.35 | jelly | not enough people doing triage |
| 09:44.46 | SynrGy | so, i'm stumped here. anyone else with ideas? |
| 09:45.03 | SynrGy | (haven't had morning coffee yet ;) |
| 09:45.18 | eugenmayer1 | in this case, its my only server with a sofwtare-raid. I guess i wont run into those issue on the other nodes. But iam very curious what happened |
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| 09:45.49 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: NEVER do this! You will harm your soul coming into IRC whithout having a least 2 coffee. Thats a general rule of nature |
| 09:46.07 | jelly | eugenmayer1: did you show your /boot/grub/device.map and /proc/mdstat yet? |
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| 09:46.41 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: maybe we could see output of 'blkid' and also your device.map |
| 09:46.44 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 09:46.56 | eugenmayer1 | nope. On my way jelly: http://pastie.org/9181256 |
| 09:47.21 | jelly | that seems sane. |
| 09:47.25 | eugenmayer1 | http://pastie.org/9181257 |
| 09:48.01 | SynrGy | humm, blkid is only going to show it by uuid. grub has id, so 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-id' |
| 09:48.02 | eugenmayer1 | the symlinks in /dev/disk/by-id are correct and do map |
| 09:48.06 | SynrGy | k |
| 09:48.38 | eugenmayer1 | whatever you wish :) http://pastie.org/9181259 |
| 09:49.44 | eugenmayer1 | (iam in at rescue system right now, so you should not wonder about the oters /dev /sys /proc mounted as usual |
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| 09:50.06 | eugenmayer1 | rescue and chrooted system are both x64 |
| 09:50.11 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: bind-mounted? |
| 09:50.32 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: sorry - never seen that. Is that a command? |
| 09:50.39 | SynrGy | before chroot: |
| 09:50.58 | SynrGy | mount --bind /dev /mountpoint/dev |
| 09:50.59 | SynrGy | etc. |
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| 09:51.09 | eugenmayer1 | hmm, somehow iam not sure, wait a second. |
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| 09:51.22 | SynrGy | do this for /dev, /proc, /sys and /dev/pts |
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| 09:51.36 | Affix | Hey Guys have an issue with Broadcom Nics and tap interfaces |
| 09:51.54 | Affix | It seems that when we try to ping a non-existant address we loss network connectivity |
| 09:52.00 | Affix | and become unable to ping the gateway |
| 09:52.28 | Affix | I thought increasing the TCP/IP Stack size would resolve this issue. It did mitigate it but it didn't entirely resolve it |
| 09:52.37 | Affix | We run Debian 7.5 |
| 09:52.49 | Affix | Hardware is Both HP DL320g8ev2 and Dell R210 |
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| 09:53.49 | Affix | hi bagpuss_thecat |
| 09:53.49 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: i explicitly unmounted all 3 and mounted it with bind again - just to be 100% and not waste your time :) Did not help though, cant install grub mit grub-install /dev/sda - same issue as before |
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| 09:54.45 | eugenmayer1 | i kinda smell this will go down to be a GPT issue, couldnt it |
| 09:54.49 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: so just to be clear. *outside* the chroot, bind-mount each of the four to make them visible inside the chroot. then chroot. |
| 09:55.03 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: of course yes :) |
| 09:55.06 | SynrGy | bind-mounting just makes a path accessible somewhere else |
| 09:55.22 | SynrGy | k |
| 09:55.30 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: yeah i know all that - i was just not sure what i did and wanted to ensure i did not silly mistake. |
| 09:55.37 | SynrGy | good, good |
| 09:55.47 | SynrGy | i got nothing :( |
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| 09:55.59 | eugenmayer1 | i even below nothing |
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| 09:56.47 | eugenmayer1 | Just in general, there are no general issues known with raid installations on > 2TB drives with GPT partiioned tables? |
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| 09:57.00 | jelly | Affix: for a start, is firmware-bnx2 installed? |
| 09:57.02 | SynrGy | http://pastie.org/9181246 is perplexing. why does it even care about md0? how is md0 involved in this command? |
| 09:57.35 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: as far as i see, md0 actually stores all the grub files, its /boot |
| 09:57.37 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: what's the grub version of the rescue system? |
| 09:57.45 | SynrGy | this is a wheezy rescue? |
| 09:57.51 | jelly | Affix: also, do you have latest firmware for the network cards? |
| 09:57.53 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: since i chroot, i wil use the wheezy one anyway? |
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| 09:58.06 | jelly | Affix: (flashed) |
| 09:58.08 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: yes wheezy resuce and chroot -> wheezy anyway |
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| 09:58.19 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 09:58.56 | SynrGy | oh, right. grub-install does want to know where the grub files are. but does that need to be inside the array? isn't that ... not assembled yet? |
| 09:59.07 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: http://pastie.org/9181283 |
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| 10:00.03 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: its assembled |
| 10:00.04 | eugenmayer1 | md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1] |
| 10:00.04 | eugenmayer1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:00.32 | eugenmayer1 | (http://pastie.org/9181256) |
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| 10:00.50 | SynrGy | it's assembled *now*, but at the time that grub looks for it? |
| 10:00.53 | SynrGy | i mean, at boot |
| 10:01.34 | eugenmayer1 | hmm, it used to work beforehand..hm |
| 10:02.58 | SynrGy | well, seems grub can figure it out. i have: |
| 10:02.59 | SynrGy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.03 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: http://pastie.org/9181290 |
| 10:03.09 | SynrGy | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 May 1 08:25 684abcf6-24f4-49a8-9308-83e073ce018d -> ../../md0 |
| 10:03.24 | SynrGy | so the root is indeed md0 |
| 10:03.35 | eugenmayer1 | you meen grub-root |
| 10:03.38 | SynrGy | yup |
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| 10:03.53 | eugenmayer1 | most probly grub can do it by |
| 10:04.07 | eugenmayer1 | insmod raid |
| 10:04.08 | eugenmayer1 | insmod mdraid1x |
| 10:04.13 | SynrGy | right |
| 10:04.16 | G-Ray | http://patch-tracker.debian.org/ is down ? |
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| 10:05.44 | daniel-s_ | Hi |
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| 10:06.03 | eugenmayer1 | SynrG: i dont really mind the issue on this node it particual, beacuse it will be canceled/removed anyway. It just was a test-upgrade to see what can happen |
| 10:06.14 | daniel-s_ | I have a new laptop with UEFI bios. I have turned off secure boot and set a USB drive to boot. |
| 10:06.23 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: AFAICs all the other nodes have hardware raids, but also GPT and 3TB drives |
| 10:06.25 | daniel-s_ | But it keeps booting form the hard drive. |
| 10:06.30 | daniel-s_ | What else do I need to do? |
| 10:06.58 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: ah. fun |
| 10:07.10 | stormy3 | is for me G-Ray |
| 10:07.11 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: well, keep plugging away at it. i have to work :/ |
| 10:07.25 | eugenmayer1 | SynrGy: thank you _a lot_ for your time. |
| 10:07.28 | SynrGy | eugenmayer1: it certainly would help increase confidence the other upgrades won't go south to figure it out :) |
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| 10:07.43 | eugenmayer1 | hehe, yes it would. |
| 10:08.46 | G-Ray | stormy3: Is there a mirror ? I would like to retrieve that patch http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/series/dl/scgi/1.13-1.1/port-to-apache24 |
| 10:09.44 | stormy3 | urm, not sure i've never seen one! |
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| 10:21.34 | FaTony | hey guys, what would debian do in response to this? https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/reconciling-mozillas-mission-and-w3c-eme/ |
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| 10:22.38 | SynrG | tl;dr |
| 10:22.52 | SynrG | also, offtopic |
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| 10:23.32 | average | FaTony: also I can read your name like Fat-Ony if I want |
| 10:23.54 | SynrG | average: that was uncalled for. please be nice |
| 10:24.04 | average | ok sorry, but it wasn't personal.. |
| 10:24.36 | SynrG | commenting on someone's nick like that on irc is no better than commenting on someone's appearance irl. you think it's well-meant, but it is rarely constructive. |
| 10:25.56 | FaTony | I was concerned that Iceweasel will have that proprietary DRM module in it |
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| 10:29.24 | average | FaTony: ok so my tl;dr of that document is "They want to implant some module to find out if you're watching illegal content, and fingerprint you anyway so yo can basically go to jail if you watch illegal content" |
| 10:29.29 | average | FaTony: is that accurate ? |
| 10:30.14 | FaTony | average, no |
| 10:30.16 | SynrG | FaTony: without reading it, if they want to include something that is in violation of DFSG, it won't be in iceweasel. it would be an RC bug |
| 10:30.40 | SynrG | failure to address the issue would lead to the removal of iceweasel from the archive |
| 10:30.42 | average | FaTony: ok, then do you have a tl;dr for it? I have very little context and not enough time to go through it right now |
| 10:30.44 | FaTony | SynrG, RC? I am still new to Debian |
| 10:30.58 | SynrG | release critical |
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| 10:31.51 | FaTony | average, Mozilla is implementing a proprietary extension to decrypt media that use W3C EME |
| 10:32.10 | average | decrypt media? |
| 10:32.11 | SynrG | FaTony: again, the details are unimportant. if it's proprietary, it can't be put in debian. |
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| 10:32.24 | SynrG | any other discussion about this is OT |
| 10:32.27 | average | FaTony: wait, decrypting media? why would someone decrypt media? and who encrypted it in the first place ? |
| 10:32.45 | SynrG | so please take it to #debian-offtopic if you want to continue to discuss ... |
| 10:32.51 | FaTony | average, content providers such as Netflix |
| 10:32.57 | FaTony | SynrG, ok |
| 10:33.10 | SynrG | i think we've answered your question, though. |
| 10:33.39 | average | I think Mozilla is kinda pushing it. Why not just have that extension on AMO (addons.mozilla.org) |
| 10:33.48 | SynrG | average: #d-ot please |
| 10:34.43 | average | SynrG: could we relax the channel rules a bit please? nobody's talkin right now, so we're not disturbing anything really, and outside over here it's raining anyway heh |
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| 10:36.03 | SynrG | average: speculating on what mozilla does or doesn't do or should or shouldn't do in the future is not a debian support request. |
| 10:36.53 | FaTony | SynrG, I just hope you guys can take it out of the code if Mozilla implements it inside the core |
| 10:37.16 | SynrG | average: and no. "nobody's talkin right now" is not ever an excuse (and is highly insensitive to helpers later scanning the backlog to see if there is anything worth following up on) |
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| 10:37.51 | SynrG | FaTony: i have every confidence our developers are capable. |
| 10:38.33 | SynrG | FaTony: as i said, failure to do this will result in removal of iceweasel from the archive. that's the worst possible outcome. what will never be an acceptable outcome is "debian ships with non-free software included" |
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| 10:42.18 | skilz | How come when I move windows around on my desktop my cpu usage goes up? Shouldn't the GPU handle that? I have a Radeon 5800 |
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| 10:45.36 | Qantourisc | The debian installed removed my windows, but I never choice to delete the partition ! |
| 10:46.19 | nkuttler | you certainly were asked if you wanted to use a specific disk/partition |
| 10:46.37 | nkuttler | Qantourisc: or do you only mean that there's no entry in the boot menu? |
| 10:46.37 | cast | Qantourisc: did it actually delete the partition? |
| 10:46.55 | cast | Qantourisc: lsblk, see if its still there |
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| 10:47.00 | Qantourisc | nkuttler: manual partition layout I selected, and no i did not overwrite the partition, since it's a differnt size |
| 10:47.19 | nkuttler | Qantourisc: yeah, you might have to set up your windows manually then, if grub can't find it |
| 10:47.50 | Qantourisc | nkuttler: grub also failed to install yes, but the parition of windows is GONE |
| 10:47.56 | average | skilz: only if you have working video drivers installed |
| 10:48.08 | skilz | average, Yes I do |
| 10:48.44 | average | skilz: as for CPU usage related to moving windows around. I use i3 as a tiling window manager, I don't move windows around with my mouse, and everything works extremely fast (it's so fast it's like *zap* ) |
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| 10:49.09 | Qantourisc | Going to eat and install arch instead |
| 10:49.20 | Qantourisc | that's a full manual install that will NOT screw up Windows |
| 10:49.49 | skilz | average, http://paste.debian.net/99925/ See |
| 10:50.01 | feisar | if you screwed up your computer installing Debian I would be hesitant about trying Arch! |
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| 10:50.44 | cast | Qantourisc: so, whats in the space on disk where the windows partition was? |
| 10:50.49 | average | Qantourisc: you will have a very long day my friend. Load/stock up on coffee, you'll need it |
| 10:50.56 | skilz | average, See the radeon ATI driver is installed |
| 10:51.09 | cast | [that said, i like arch, they have a very good wiki :)] |
| 10:51.18 | average | skilz: yeah, you haven't given details about what applications you're running.. |
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| 10:53.05 | skilz | average, I'm running Fluxbox with XChat and rxvt-unicode terminals, pretty much any program that I grab the top of the window and move it around I see a CPU spike in Conky. |
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| 10:53.23 | skilz | Not a lot, but enough to wonder why the GPU isn't handling it. |
| 10:54.36 | trewas | skilz: I think fluxbox is not using compositing, so GPU is not really involved and everything is done by CPU and 2D graphics "acceleration" |
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| 10:54.39 | stormy3 | anyone setup a l2tp connection client on debian to a router / netgear utm? kinda stuck and confused! |
| 10:54.55 | SynrG | skilz: your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please, at paste.debian.net |
| 10:55.25 | skilz | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/99925/ |
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| 10:55.38 | SynrG | ah, you did that paste above and i missed it |
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| 10:56.26 | skilz | trewas, I'm running xcompmgr for compositing. |
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| 10:57.04 | trewas | skilz: that's probably even worse :) |
| 10:57.15 | average | skilz: running some form of compiz perhaps ? |
| 10:57.26 | skilz | wow |
| 10:57.56 | SynrG | i run xcompmgr and use intel integrated gfx on an old netbook ... |
| 10:57.59 | Walex | FaTony: that's not what the page says, over and over: they insist they are just implementing an API to a proprietary binary plugin, which will not be part of Firefox. |
| 10:58.02 | SynrG | i don't see any such spikes |
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| 10:58.17 | NecessaryEvil | Hi my DSL connection is dead so I m gonna use dialup, but it seems I need the wvdial package. What is its latest version in stable and where is it so that I can try to download it ? |
| 10:58.36 | SynrG | at least, nothing very high |
| 10:58.37 | average | Walex: SynrG insisted above that this is Completely offtopic and should be taken to #debian-offtopic |
| 10:58.47 | SynrG | skilz: how high of a spike? |
| 10:58.59 | Walex | NecessaryEvil: you can use 'wvdial' or directly 'pppd' or any other PPP wrapper. |
| 10:59.11 | skilz | I have an i7 quad core, so it's concerning when I start moving windows around and I see some cores spike to 34% |
| 11:00.00 | SynrG | average: please. if i thought there was a problem with Walex's response i would say so. since he took the time to read the article to shed new light on the debian aspect of this problem, it's still on-topic (inasmuch as it answer's a user's question about future debian support) |
| 11:00.22 | Walex | skilz: that statement is based on not understanding how CPU load works. |
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| 11:00.31 | SynrG | average: only talk about mozilla's choice itself is OT |
| 11:00.44 | SynrG | answers* |
| 11:00.46 | average | SynrG: you're such a nitpicker. ok.. |
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| 11:00.59 | NecessaryEvil | Yes but where is the package ? I am on a smartphone and cannot use aptitude on it. Would be great if someone could point me to a http link for the package. |
| 11:01.00 | Walex | average: yes, the point I was making is that as far as Debian packaging goes, the new Firefox situation is not different from the current one. |
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| 11:01.26 | skilz | Walex, ? |
| 11:01.27 | Walex | NecessaryEvil: try 'aptitude search ppp' |
| 11:02.09 | Walex | skilz: there are two bits about your report that are not entirely insightful... |
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| 11:02.48 | cast | is blockdev --getalignoff reliable through layers of LVM+dm-crypt? |
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| 11:02.54 | NecessaryEvil | Walex: Yes but my machine has no Internet connectivity... DSL is dead... I'm here using 3G on a smartphone and the smartphone isn't a Debian system. |
| 11:03.16 | Walex | skilz: first, that CPU usage of something like 34% is a statistical illusion: CPU can only be used 100% or 0%. The 34% means that it was used 100% but only 34% during the sampling time. |
| 11:03.51 | Walex | skilz: the second is that "CPU time" includes *memory* access time. In particular the time needed to access the framebuffer, and framebuffers are *slow*. |
| 11:04.46 | skilz | Walex, Ok thanks for the insight |
| 11:04.52 | skilz | Whats the framebuffer? Xorg? |
| 11:05.19 | skilz | WHy are they slow? |
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| 11:05.47 | Walex | skilz: the framebuffer is the memory dedicated to displaying the GUI, on the GPU. |
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| 11:06.57 | Walex | skilz: because of semi-complicated things it is usually fast to access from the GPU, and slow to access from the CPU, because the two things are mutually exclusive. |
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| 11:07.47 | Walex | skilz: also because usually the GPU has a dedicated high speed bus to the framebuffer, and the CPU accesses it over PCI/PCIe. But that's not necessarily the whole story. |
| 11:07.56 | skilz | How could this problem be solved in computing? |
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| 11:09.04 | Walex | skilz: things get complicated if you have enabled many visual effects, because this triggers use of CPU-side compositing in most cases, and that means several window operations have to be done in sw on the CPU instead of hw on the GPU. |
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| 11:12.40 | cast | next question, so hdparm confirms sda has trim support, which has / setup as dm-crypt -> LVM -> ext4. i notice fstrim / fails with FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported. which layer is 'losing' the trim support? |
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| 11:14.45 | cast | oh...i see now, --allow-discards must be passed to cryptsetup. |
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| 11:17.26 | Walex | cast: I use '--allow-discards' but note that it is controversial as it can help cryptanalysis |
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| 11:18.17 | Walex | cast: also, as usual, LVM2 is usually unnecessary except for one or two possible features that are rarely needed. |
| 11:20.10 | petn-randall | Walex: How is LVM in this setup unnecessary? Being able to have several partitions, and snapshot support come to mind ... |
| 11:20.52 | gdm85 | there's something that automatically resets my file limit to 1024. I have changed limits.conf and even on a running shell, I see the limit being put lower without my intervention |
| 11:20.54 | gdm85 | what can it be? |
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| 11:21.06 | cast | i use LVM on servers extensively, but on my desktop, can't say i've used its features more than once or twice |
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| 11:21.57 | jelly | gdm85: which debian release? Are you logging in through a service that has pam_limits enabled? |
| 11:22.19 | gdm85 | jelly: Wheezy. I am using ssh, let me check that.. |
| 11:22.22 | jelly | dpkg, tell gdm85 about limits.conf |
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| 11:22.51 | jelly | cast: once is enough if it avoids repartitioning and annoynace |
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| 11:23.33 | gdm85 | ideally I would like to set this limit for the whole system |
| 11:23.51 | gdm85 | jelly: yes sshd has pam_limits enabled |
| 11:24.05 | skilz | Can I jailbreak my iPhone4 with Debian? |
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| 11:25.10 | jelly | gdm85: but you don't see limits being set after logging in via ssh? |
| 11:25.20 | gdm85 | from /etc/sysctl.d/README.sysctl: "My personal preference would be for local system settings to go into..." oh god, my Linux is getting self-awareness :D |
| 11:25.24 | lucido | how can I prevent a member of the sudo group changing anyones but his own pawword? |
| 11:25.38 | gdm85 | jelly: yes it works fine. except that after a while limits are back at 1024.. |
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| 11:25.55 | jelly | gdm85: in the same process? |
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| 11:26.26 | cast | lucido: what do you want people in the sudo group to be able to do? |
| 11:26.27 | gdm85 | jelly: you're right, this is a new shell. so the problem is just that limits.conf is not being read |
| 11:26.45 | jelly | gdm85: how did you start the new shell? |
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| 11:26.54 | lucido | cast, anything except that |
| 11:27.05 | gdm85 | jelly: so: I've set the limit to 100000 for root, but I use sudo to get a shell. that might explain this |
| 11:27.11 | gdm85 | (a root shell) |
| 11:27.27 | lucido | cast, I dont think that its possible |
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| 11:27.38 | cast | lucido: blacklists are extremely hard to get right |
| 11:27.50 | gdm85 | actually I could disregard the limit for shells. what I want is that services have a higher file limit |
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| 11:28.21 | lucido | cast, yes |
| 11:28.37 | jelly | gdm85: did you configure pam_limits for sudo? |
| 11:28.43 | cast | lucido: you can configure sudo to allow any command other than passwd, but i wouldn't bother. they can still run vi /etc/shadow, or /etc/sudoers, etc.... |
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| 11:29.14 | gdm85 | jelly: it's not there |
| 11:29.21 | jelly | gdm85: what's not there? |
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| 11:29.40 | gdm85 | jelly: pam_limits is not loaded in the includes of /etc/pam.d/sudo. so this explains everything, thanks |
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| 11:30.02 | gdm85 | now I am looking for a way to set this limit for an auto-started daemon |
| 11:30.14 | jelly | gdm85: this won't help with services that are being brought up at boot. |
| 11:30.20 | gdm85 | yeah, exactly |
| 11:30.30 | lucido | cast, another approach: how can I give a user administrative rights for administering a lamp environment |
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| 11:32.37 | OpenTokix | lucido: sudo with specific commands, - define administer? - Change configfiles etc? |
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| 11:33.06 | cast | lucido: give them root access, they need it to administer the L part |
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| 11:35.50 | jelly | gdm85: some services have their own specific places to put limits, eg. /etc/apache2/envvars |
| 11:36.25 | jelly | gdm85: others, dunno, at best you have to modify their init script |
| 11:36.26 | gdm85 | jelly: I might resort to modifying the init script |
| 11:36.30 | gdm85 | yep |
| 11:36.30 | lucido | OpenTokix, install/remove packages, edit config files |
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| 11:36.47 | jelly | gdm85: if they source /etc/default/foo you can put it there |
| 11:36.57 | lucido | OpenTokix, I guess the packages part kills it |
| 11:36.58 | gdm85 | jelly: yeah, right |
| 11:36.58 | jelly | one less custom conffile |
| 11:37.05 | gdm85 | originally I was putting the ulimit command in /etc/rc.local, but that is not effective |
| 11:37.08 | OpenTokix | lucido: just give the person root, since its essentially what you give them. |
| 11:37.49 | lucido | yep |
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| 11:40.57 | lucido | how about just editing config files and reloading configs? |
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| 11:54.19 | OpenTokix | lucido: then you can make sudo actions for specifc commands, like "$EDITOR conf-file" |
| 11:54.33 | byte | hi |
| 11:54.39 | OpenTokix | lucido: not a blanket sudo editor, since then they can edit sudoersfile |
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| 11:55.16 | OpenTokix | lucido: or you write a script with specifc commands, ie. lampadmin arg arg arg, and give lampadmin sudo, with the specific commands needed |
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| 12:11.11 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 12:11.12 | dpkg | <sussudio> !irritate ravenqr <dpkg> ravenqr: HELP ME!!! who uses cable hello? <ravenqr> dpkg: what you need bro? <dpkg> bugger all, i dunno, ravenqr <ravenqr> i have cable |
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| 12:11.59 | Qantourisc | average: I often use gentoo, arch is a breeze :p |
| 12:12.36 | Qantourisc | cast: gentoo installation ow |
| 12:12.39 | Qantourisc | *now |
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| 12:20.51 | skilz | Can I jailbreak my iPhone4 with Debian? |
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| 12:25.23 | krpt | failing to launch snmptrapd with '/bin/systemctl start snmptrapd.service' stdout says it's ok but no one in ps, any idea on how to make it more verbose ? |
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| 12:26.11 | petn-randall | skilz: Maybe, it's not a supported platform though, and I haven't seen anyone do that yet. |
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| 12:31.08 | krpt | launching it 'by hand' works , looks like the start-stop-daemon line which fail somehow |
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| 12:31.52 | petn-randall | krpt: systemd is a tech preview on wheezy, it's still full of bugs. |
| 12:32.17 | frostschutz | robert___, you can use /dev/disk/by-id/... |
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| 12:35.46 | robert___ | frostschutz inside smartctld.conf? |
| 12:35.56 | Norbertos | Hi there ! |
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| 12:38.43 | Norbertos | How much backports can I install if I don't want trouble ? I've read that it's not wise to install much backports (and pointless as well). 5 is okay ? |
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| 12:39.35 | babilen | Norbertos: 5 |
| 12:40.04 | babilen | Norbertos: There is no way to quantify this. "As many as needed as few as possible" |
| 12:40.17 | Norbertos | babilen: I understand, thank you ! :) |
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| 12:41.32 | Norbertos | See ya ! |
| 12:42.30 | babilen | Norbertos: The main problems are: 1. Package combinations with backports in the mix aren't nearly as extensively tested as those in the stable release 2. Upgrade path(s) for backported packages to the next release are not necessarily tested 3. Security patches might take a while to appear in backports ... |
| 12:42.36 | babilen | :( |
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| 12:47.54 | krpt | petn-randall: yes I can see that, it tells me my service launch ok , though obviously |
| 12:48.01 | krpt | not |
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| 12:59.09 | Gabi- | hi guys , i do have 4 x 2 TB hard disks , i am trying to make all 4 as one cluster , when i go to installation and try to partition with LVM it picks one hard disk out of the 4 and makes it solo OS drive , how can i make it as one cluster of 8 tb ? |
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| 13:02.05 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: Add the other disks to the vg |
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| 13:02.18 | petn-randall | Gabi-: What steps to you take until now (e.g. commands + output), and what did you expect? |
| 13:02.55 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: install evertyhing on the single drive, then when its up and running (ie. on /dev/sda - your do: pvcreate /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd - and vgextend vgname /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd |
| 13:03.08 | petn-randall | Gabi-: Probably you want to make a software or hardware RAID0 out of those disks. Keep in mind though that you have zero redundancy, so if one disk fails, all data is gone. |
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| 13:04.12 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: also, lvm will fill them up sequentially, so sdb will not be used until sda is full etc. - if you want to fill them up at the same time you have to configure the vg as a stripe, HOWEVER, you cant online resize striped vg's |
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| 13:05.18 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: if you want the added speed, use raid0 and build the vg on top of that, - if you lose a drive, all data is gone. So other raid levels is a better option for that style of massive drives, but if its just a volatile 8T bucket, go with raid0 lvm |
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| 13:06.03 | Gabi- | OpenTokix can you teamviewer and help me out |
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| 13:06.20 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: What is teamviewer? |
| 13:06.42 | a7x | OpenTokix google it, software for remote access |
| 13:06.51 | OpenTokix | ssh -o TeamViewer ? |
| 13:06.52 | OpenTokix | ) |
| 13:06.53 | OpenTokix | ;) |
| 13:07.04 | bhuddah | don't we have a "don't trust noone factoid" here? |
| 13:07.15 | OpenTokix | bhuddah: pobably |
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| 13:07.39 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: Sure, I can help you |
| 13:07.51 | Gabi- | i trust someone that tryed to help me :) |
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| 13:08.12 | bhuddah | that's a con-man classic. |
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| 13:09.49 | petn-randall | Seriously? OpenTokix, install a backdoor for me, too, and I'll cover you ;). What happened to the whole learn how to fish thing?! |
| 13:10.03 | OpenTokix | petn-randall: =) |
| 13:10.16 | OpenTokix | petn-randall: I have a glistenign white hat on at all times |
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| 13:13.53 | jaami | hi |
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| 13:14.00 | a7x | what is the name of ffpmeg on jessie? |
| 13:14.04 | jaami | hotspot stop working |
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| 13:14.32 | petn-randall | a7x: libav is the alternative that you're probably looking for. |
| 13:14.49 | skilz | What package do I need to install to run .jar files? |
| 13:14.53 | jaami | htspot is disconnected automatically after i click on hotspot button |
| 13:14.59 | jaami | hotstop*** |
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| 13:15.31 | petn-randall | skilz: one of the JREs (e.g. default-jre). |
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| 13:16.08 | skilz | What about Oracle's JVM? |
| 13:16.44 | petn-randall | skilz: You'll have to get that from Oracle, since it's non-free. |
| 13:16.46 | skilz | I want to play Minecraft |
| 13:17.00 | skilz | I have non-free sources in apt |
| 13:17.03 | somiaj | skilz: mine craft works fine for me on openJDK |
| 13:17.08 | skilz | Ok |
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| 13:17.33 | somiaj | skilz: you won't get oracle's java vm via debian packages (they do not let us distribute it, even though non-free), if you really want Oracle java, look at java-package |
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| 13:18.29 | skilz | Im getting openjdk-7-jdk |
| 13:18.35 | skilz | Is that correct? |
| 13:18.53 | somiaj | I think you only need the -jre packages to run java applications such as minecraft |
| 13:19.01 | somiaj | though if you wan the full -jdk enviroment install that |
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| 13:20.19 | SynrG | a7x: you want libav-tools. the name of the binaries are avconv, avplay, etc. |
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| 13:22.40 | SynrG | skilz: typically: java <options> -jar <filename>.jar |
| 13:22.51 | SynrG | skilz: the minecraft site will say exactly how to run it |
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| 13:23.01 | skilz | $ java Minecraft.jar |
| 13:23.02 | skilz | Error: Could not find or load main class Minecraft.jar |
| 13:23.11 | SynrG | because you're doing it wrong |
| 13:23.11 | abrotman | skilz: try reading their documentation |
| 13:23.12 | a7x | SynrG, thanks but i'm not sure, will check |
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| 13:23.58 | skilz | Nothing there https://minecraft.net/download |
| 13:24.23 | abrotman | skilz: ask #minecraft .. good luck |
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| 13:25.51 | Walex | petn-randall: on LVM: several partitions are as a rule unnecessary, never mind resizable ones. Snapshots are useful, but even those are best implemented at the filesystem level. |
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| 13:28.33 | petn-randall | Walex: On a desktop machine I split / and /home, on servers into even more. It makes sense to split it so you don't have to fsck a single > 10 TB filesystem, which might take ages. |
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| 13:29.31 | Walex | petn-randall: 'fsck' is one of the cases where splitting may be necessary. But it is a very sad limitation of filesystems without "chunking" or some form of parallel 'fsck'. |
| 13:29.54 | petn-randall | Walex: There are filesystems that can do that? |
| 13:30.00 | Walex | petn-randall: sort of... |
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| 13:30.22 | Walex | petn-randall: they are meta-filesystems that spread files over multiple filesystems. |
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| 13:31.00 | Walex | petn-randall: but regrettably the start of the art in 'fsck' is pretty behind the times -- most people never 'fsck'. Good luck to them :-). |
| 13:31.35 | petn-randall | Walex: Well, I do want to fsck / after a server crash, but not necessarily the humongous amounts of bulk data. After all, I want to keep the unprepared downtime as little as possible. |
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| 13:32.58 | Walex | petn-randall: that is why the state of the art is behind the times. In practice "hidden" filesystem corruption happens, but it may take a long time for it to become noticeable, so many sysadms don't care. |
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| 13:33.10 | ABDU1989 | How has proved the latest version of vlc |
| 13:33.13 | ABDU1989 | my version of vlc 2.0.6 |
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| 13:34.02 | ABDU1989 | I want vlc 2.1.3 |
| 13:34.11 | abrotman | so install it |
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| 13:35.06 | babilen | ABDU1989: 2.1.2 is in wheezy-backports |
| 13:35.30 | petn-randall | Walex: Hidden data corruption is horrible, I'm scared of it and take precautions. |
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| 13:38.05 | Gabi- | OpenTokix just helped me out , hes really good :P and trusty btw |
| 13:38.33 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: thank you |
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| 13:38.58 | ABDU1989 | babilen, my last version in synaptic 2.0.6 |
| 13:38.58 | ABDU1989 | in wheezy-backports |
| 13:39.09 | jaami | i cant remember why i had need for backport but i felt like i am taking unnecessary updated after having backport in source list |
| 13:39.24 | babilen | ABDU1989: Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy vlc" to http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 13:39.33 | babilen | ABDU1989: I never use synaptic |
| 13:39.39 | OpenTokix | Gabi-: But generally you should not do what you just did, just fyi |
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| 13:41.18 | ABDU1989 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/99949/ |
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| 13:43.00 | babilen | ABDU1989: I will not support that system -- you have enabled many third-party repositories that I would not recommend to use. And you have the wheezy-backports version in there, but decided to enable debian multimedia. I wouldn't do that. |
| 13:43.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell ABDU1989 about dmm |
| 13:43.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell ABDU1989 about dmm remove |
| 13:43.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell ABDU1989 about why not dmm |
| 13:43.37 | a7x | great, jessie is missing openjpeg2 |
| 13:43.39 | babilen | ABDU1989: And don't get me even started on webmin. And *sarge* repositories? Oh dea ... |
| 13:43.50 | babilen | judd: v openjpeg2 |
| 13:43.51 | judd | No package named 'openjpeg2' was found in i386. |
| 13:44.12 | babilen | judd: v libopenjpeg5 |
| 13:44.13 | judd | Package: libopenjpeg5 on i386 -- jessie: 1.5.2-2; sid: 1.5.2-2 |
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| 13:44.29 | babilen | a7x: Which package are you thinking of? |
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| 13:45.27 | Walex | petn-randall: on hidden corruption, a famous quote from an old-style datacenter manager, in "Datamation": "As far as we know we never had an undetected error" :-). |
| 13:45.31 | a7x | i need the original ffmpeg, so i tried to use deb-multimedia (unofficial repo) which need libopenjpeg2 and it's missing, babilen |
| 13:45.47 | petn-randall | Walex: Hahahaha |
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| 13:46.23 | babilen | a7x: Well, don't expect unsupported third-party packages to work. I am sorry for that, but there is nothing we can do. The general recommendation is to not use DMM |
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| 13:46.47 | a7x | E: Package 'libopenjpeg2' has no installation candidate |
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| 13:46.53 | a7x | , just to disagree with judd, babilen |
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| 13:47.34 | babilen | a7x: Why would that be in disagreement with what judd just said? |
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| 13:48.01 | a7x | babilen, sure that doesn't change the fact the libopenjpeg it's missing |
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| 13:50.30 | SynrG | a7x: if a third-party repo depends on a missing package, what does that have to do with us? or judd? |
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| 13:51.27 | tremon | a7x: just to be pedantic, libopenjpeg (the library) isn't missing. The package libopenjpeg2 is missing, but the package libopenjpeg5 is available |
| 13:51.34 | SynrG | a7x: you'll find we profoundly don't care about this problem. just use the debian-supported packages and you'll have a much better day. |
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| 13:52.10 | Dinux | If I move a directory from the root to a smb share it shows up as hidden on windows |
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| 13:52.49 | Dinux | can't find the source of the problem |
| 13:52.56 | robert___ | frostschutz it worked great!!! |
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| 13:53.10 | SynrG | Dinux: i'm having a hard time parsing "shows up as hidden" (does it show up? or is it hidden?) :) |
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| 13:53.32 | babilen | ABDU1989: Just to make this clear: You really shouldn't use all those third-party repositories but only stick to official packages. Your system is unsupportable and you will, sooner or later, run into problems. |
| 13:53.32 | SynrG | Dinux: anyway, start with ownership/perms, i guess. |
| 13:53.40 | wols | SynrG: windows has a file flag "hidden" :) |
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| 13:54.01 | tremon | Dinux: does the directory name start with a . ? |
| 13:54.06 | wols | well, FAT at least has, not totally sure about how NTFS does it |
| 13:54.09 | Dinux | SynrG: I does show up but as an System Directory |
| 13:54.32 | SynrG | so, what is a "System Directory" to Windows? i really have no idea. |
| 13:54.35 | Dinux | tremon: Windows ignores dots in filenames |
| 13:54.44 | tremon | but samba doesn't |
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| 13:55.04 | jaami | i am sorry to bother, just a simple question. is there a way to stop the right click popup menu to display exactly at the location of mouse pointer? |
| 13:55.19 | Dinux | SynrG: Windows hides it by default although the folder is there |
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| 13:55.45 | Dinux | SynrG: permissions are correct as far as I know |
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| 13:56.12 | tremon | jaami: which menu? Your question isn't as simple as you want it to be. It depends on the program, desktop environment and a couple of other variables I'm missing |
| 13:56.22 | SynrG | jaami: i'm sure in a WM with knobs for it, it could be tweaked ... |
| 13:56.41 | SynrG | i've heard awesome WM is highly tweakable, for example |
| 13:56.56 | ABDU1989 | babilen, best packages |
| 13:57.05 | babilen | ABDU1989: No, worst packages |
| 13:57.19 | tremon | but it general, I don't think moving the location of a mouse-click triggered context menu is given much thought |
| 13:57.32 | jaami | tremon: if i right click anywhere in file manager , for example on a file then second click is automatically made because the popup menu display exactly at the location on mouse pointer |
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| 13:57.56 | jaami | location of mouse pointer *** |
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| 13:58.03 | ABDU1989 | babilen, clen my packages |
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| 13:58.31 | babilen | ABDU1989: What is your native language? Would you prefer to chat in something other than English? |
| 13:58.32 | DammitJim | do you guys know if ports with dates mentioned on iana.org |
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| 13:58.54 | SynrG | jaami: so get out of the habit of double-clicking things when a single-click only is needed. problem solved. |
| 13:58.58 | jaami | SynrG: i use debian sometime and have little knowledge about use of debian |
| 13:59.11 | SynrG | you probably don't want awesome WM then |
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| 13:59.35 | SynrG | jaami: this seems like a clear cut case of you needing to adjust your habits. i think there's no (easy) technical solution to this issue. |
| 13:59.40 | jaami | SynrG: i click only one time but second click is done automatically and creating many problems |
| 13:59.51 | SynrG | use a non-broken mouse |
| 14:00.03 | jaami | it is not the mouse |
| 14:00.04 | SynrG | click-bounce is a common problem with dying mice |
| 14:00.11 | tremon | jaami: which file manager? There's dolphin, thunar, nautilus, konqueror... :) I'm going to assume that you have a default debian install with Gnome, in which the answer is sadly "no, you can't change it" |
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| 14:00.21 | somiaj | hmm, looking for scripts that turn paticular formated text files into html, any suggestions |
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| 14:00.32 | SynrG | jaami: what debian release are you running? |
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| 14:00.52 | a7x | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.56 | SynrG | jaami: there's no way wheezy has this problem. we would have thousands of irate users ... so it appears to be 'just you' |
| 14:01.23 | jaami | tremon: i just give one example of file manager, even in editor if i right click on selected text then sometime text is cut and sometime it is copied without second click |
| 14:01.45 | shelpe | jaami: Live boot a different OS and see if you have the same problem. If you do, it's the mouse. |
| 14:01.47 | ABDU1989 | babilen, I want packages official |
| 14:01.56 | a7x | SynrG, don't care for hatred answers, sorry. That's just the way the world is, i need a package unavailable on debian, i'll find it somewhere else (not pretending to be helped here ofc). |
| 14:01.59 | jaami | SynrG: wheezy 7.1 |
| 14:02.00 | shelpe | Honestly, I'm very sure it's a hardware problem |
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| 14:02.10 | SynrG | a7x: hatred? i was honestly trying to be helpful. |
| 14:02.14 | tremon | jaami: is this a laptop with a touchpad? Some touchpads can be configured to be less sensitive |
| 14:02.23 | a7x | SynrG, well just don't mind then |
| 14:02.28 | jaami | it is not hardware problem, because same mouse is used on vbox for win7 |
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| 14:03.02 | babilen | ABDU1989: Yes, then do *not* use anything in your sources.list but official Debian mirrors. A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list would look like: http://paste.debian.net/99965 -- Do *not* use Debian Multimedia, webmin, ... |
| 14:03.13 | jaami | i have an extra plastic sheet on touchpad of my laptop and there no chance of use of the touchpad |
| 14:03.17 | SynrG | a7x: already forgotten :) |
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| 14:05.08 | jaami | tremon: yes, it is laptop with touchpad disabled because i covered the touchpad with extra plastic sheet |
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| 14:06.36 | jaami | shelpe: i have vbox and use win7 sometime, same muse has no problem on win7 |
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| 14:06.44 | jaami | mouse** |
| 14:06.46 | tremon | jaami: I have never seen that behaviour, and wouldn't know where to look for a solution. You can try asking on #gnome, if that's the desktop you're using |
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| 14:07.04 | jaami | tremon: it is gnome |
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| 14:08.02 | linuxthefish | is there any command line web browser that can display images as ascii art? |
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| 14:09.06 | jaami | tremon: thanks for help , i will check gnome channel |
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| 14:11.04 | SynrG | linuxthefish: i think any browser could do it provided it used an external libaa-based image viewer (and those do exist) |
| 14:11.29 | SynrG | but why would you want to do that, when if you have a framebuffer, the images could be displayed directly? |
| 14:11.35 | jhutchins | jaami: Try creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the following lines: |
| 14:11.37 | jhutchins | Section "InputDevice" "Generic Mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents" "false" |
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| 14:12.02 | jhutchins | jaami: Sorry, line break before "Option". |
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| 14:17.30 | jaami | jhutchins: doing it now |
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| 14:21.56 | jaami | jhutchins: what is next to do http://paste.debian.net/99969/ |
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| 14:22.44 | malinus | I've tried to install mysql, but ran into some error, now this keeps happening when I try to apt-get upgrade: http://paste.debian.net/99970/ |
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| 14:25.02 | babilen | jaami: you need "EndSection" at the end and I would strongly recommend to put that in its own file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (create that directory) |
| 14:25.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell jaami -about xorg.conf.d |
| 14:25.25 | jordanm | malinus: look at the mysql logs or daemon.log to determine why mysql is failing to start |
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| 14:25.33 | jaami | oh ok |
| 14:25.39 | babilen | malinus: What happens if you try to start MySQL? Anything intere ...^^^ |
| 14:25.55 | malinus | IERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 14:26.04 | malinus | *ERROR |
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| 14:26.53 | bstarek | malinus, have you tried "service mysqld stop" |
| 14:27.09 | afidegnum | hello, pls where is apache log messages located? |
| 14:27.13 | jordanm | malinus: that error is from the client, not the server |
| 14:27.16 | bstarek | malinus, then service mysqld start |
| 14:27.18 | afidegnum | my apache can't start for no reason |
| 14:27.31 | jordanm | afidegnum: /var/log/apache2 |
| 14:27.34 | bstarek | afidegnum, whats the error message |
| 14:27.49 | afidegnum | now checking, |
| 14:27.57 | malinus | bstarek, mysqld: unrecognized service |
| 14:28.01 | malinus | hmpf |
| 14:28.02 | afidegnum | I was upgrading php 5.3 to 5.4 |
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| 14:28.09 | afidegnum | bonne arrivee |
| 14:28.15 | bstarek | malinus, service mysql restart |
| 14:28.36 | afidegnum | oh sorry that was for someone else |
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| 14:34.43 | malinus | bstarek, Stopping Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
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| 14:34.57 | malinus | bstarek, also, nothing in any of the mysql logs (var/log/mysql |
| 14:35.26 | bstarek | malinus, are you sure mysql is installed? |
| 14:35.33 | malinus | I'm pretty sure it isn't! |
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| 14:36.01 | malinus | let me show you what happens when I'm trying to install it |
| 14:36.23 | bstarek | malinus, apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client |
| 14:36.44 | malinus | bstarek, http://paste.debian.net/99974/ |
| 14:36.51 | malinus | that's just for the server, let me try for the client |
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| 14:37.13 | jordanm | malinus: /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 14:37.45 | jhutchins | jaami: babilen is right, and then you need to restart X. |
| 14:37.51 | bstarek | malinus, apt-get -f install |
| 14:37.58 | jaami | babilen: i created the file http://paste.debian.net/99976/ . |
| 14:38.26 | afidegnum | bstarek: here is the error message, Restarting web server: apache2no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs Action 'start' failed. |
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| 14:39.55 | babilen | jaami: I wouldn't call it xorg.conf but, for example, "10-mouse-events.conf" (or so) |
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| 14:40.38 | jaami | ah ok babilen |
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| 14:42.14 | malinus | root@malserver:~# cat /var/log/daemon.log | pastebinit \n http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 14:42.16 | malinus | nice tool :D |
| 14:42.28 | bstarek | afidegnum, did you do "apt-get install apache2"? |
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| 14:43.08 | afidegnum | yes, I did, it's ok now, its' running |
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| 14:43.17 | afidegnum | just some minor udpate and everthing si done |
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| 14:45.32 | jaami | babilen: i created empty "xorg.conf" and also created the "10-mouse-events.conf" http://paste.debian.net/99979/ |
| 14:45.52 | malinus | bstarek, I've tried that earlier, http://paste.debian.net/99980/ |
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| 14:47.23 | bstarek | malinus, did you install myslq from repository or you got it from the website?? |
| 14:47.36 | malinus | repository |
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| 14:48.49 | malinus | jordanm, from a couple of tries: http://paste.debian.net/99982/ |
| 14:48.55 | bstarek | malinus, check this out: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13276088/cant-start-mysql5-5-on-ubuntu-12-04-dpkg-dependency-problems |
| 14:49.09 | bstarek | malinus, try this and come back. Google is your friend. |
| 14:49.15 | malinus | thanks |
| 14:49.45 | themill | malinus: this would normally be because of an error in your mysql config file and mysql will yell about it in your daemon.log |
| 14:49.52 | bstarek | afidegnum, so what do you need exactly? |
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| 14:50.24 | afidegnum | bstarek: I think I have solved the issue everything seems working now |
| 14:50.33 | bstarek | afidegnum, good. |
| 14:50.39 | jaami | jhutchins: plz tell me how to restart X |
| 14:50.48 | bstarek | jaami, startx |
| 14:50.58 | jaami | oh ok bstarek |
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| 14:51.34 | jaami | bstarek: command not found error |
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| 14:51.52 | bstarek | jaami, are you on terminal? |
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| 14:52.09 | jaami | bstarek: yes, on terminal with root access |
| 14:52.30 | bstarek | jaami, you dont need to be root |
| 14:52.46 | bstarek | jaami, you can startx from a regular user |
| 14:53.07 | jaami | bstarek: i think you are asking me about gnome to restart.not sure |
| 14:53.32 | jaami | startgnome something ? |
| 14:53.37 | jhutchins | bstarek: He needs to restart it, nto start it. |
| 14:54.00 | jhutchins | jaami: /etc/init.d/gdm restart or service gdm restart - from Ctrl-Alt-F1 preferably. |
| 14:54.18 | jaami | oh ok jhutchins , thanks |
| 14:54.29 | malinus | bstarek, nope no luck, still same problem |
| 14:54.42 | zykotick9 | jaami: use tab to complete that gdm, as it might be gdm3 |
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| 14:56.46 | ctmjr | malinus: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 see what error you get |
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| 14:57.11 | malinus | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed |
| 14:58.40 | themill | malinus: have you looked in daemon.log? |
| 14:58.59 | malinus | yes |
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| 14:59.23 | themill | and the output is ___ |
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| 15:00.47 | malinus | I wish pastebinit worked :D |
| 15:00.52 | abrotman | it does |
| 15:01.07 | malinus | cat /var/log/daemon.log | pastebinit\n http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 15:01.32 | malinus | seems I don't know how to use it then |
| 15:01.34 | themill | you only need to pastebin the relevant section |
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| 15:01.57 | malinus | yeah but it would be nice to have it in the browser for easy editing instead of in tmux |
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| 15:02.19 | themill | it's going to be 10 lines... |
| 15:03.02 | zykotick9 | malinus: use "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" to use debian's pastebin |
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| 15:03.22 | themill | zykotick9: it already is |
| 15:03.44 | zykotick9 | themill: oh, so i don't need my alias anymore. thanks. |
| 15:03.58 | malinus | themill, it's around 100+lines |
| 15:04.03 | themill | zykotick9: it's a default that the maintainer likes to change often |
| 15:04.28 | themill | malinus: for one start attempt of mysql-server? It must be very unhappy with you |
| 15:04.38 | malinus | yep |
| 15:05.03 | malinus | zykotick9, root@malserver:~# cat /var/log/daemon.log | pastebinit -b "http://paste.debian.net" |
| 15:05.03 | malinus | http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 15:05.17 | petn-randall | twiddles thumbs in anticipation. |
| 15:05.26 | themill | repeating the same thing tends not to lead to different results |
| 15:06.05 | zykotick9 | malinus: according to themill the -b isn't required anymore. BUT, i'm not sure the double quotes are required... |
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| 15:07.19 | zykotick9 | malinus: i might be mistaken, but "pastebinit /var/log/daemon.log" might work? |
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| 15:07.58 | malinus | themill, 136 lines :) http://paste.debian.net/99989/ |
| 15:08.19 | zykotick9 | themill: that's the definition of insanity, according to <someone_famous_i_forget> |
| 15:08.32 | malinus | but yeah, not all is esensial |
| 15:09.06 | malinus | zykotick9, no, that won't work |
| 15:09.12 | malinus | how would that work :S |
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| 15:09.29 | malinus | oh wait |
| 15:09.40 | malinus | no it doesn't |
| 15:09.41 | malinus | :( |
| 15:10.20 | zykotick9 | s/someone_famous_i_foget/Albert Einstein/ |
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| 15:11.46 | zykotick9 | malinus: sorry, according to the man page, you need to use a -i for files as input |
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| 15:15.44 | jaami | babilen, i presssed Ctrl Alt F1 and i was sent to a text based screen where i was asked for login and password. i used my root id/pass and i did not how to come back to gnome then i typed restart and grub menu was shown i selected deabin from menu and debian after scrolling some text on screen , went blank and now debain do not boot . i am using live usb now. i was trying to fix the mouse problem but now debian is not working. please tell me what i should do |
| 15:15.44 | jaami | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.54 | bstarek | jaami, sorry i didnt see your message |
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| 15:16.33 | bstarek | jhutchins, good call, thanks :) |
| 15:16.34 | jaami | bstarek, my debian is not booting into gnome desktop, it shows blank screen and do nothing |
| 15:16.52 | jaami | good call? |
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| 15:17.24 | jaami | jhutchins, i was trying to fix the damn mouse problem now have to fix debian/gnome |
| 15:17.29 | bstarek | jaami, have you tried to restart? |
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| 15:18.11 | jaami | bstarek, yes, i restarted 3 times and also selected recovery mode but again blank screen is shown and nothing else |
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| 15:18.23 | babilen | jaami: Do *not* use an empty /etc/X11/xorg.conf but delete it and you should be able to "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-mouse-events.conf{,_bkp}" to remove it. Restart and you should be back to where you were before. |
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| 15:19.05 | jaami | oh ok babilen , i try to delete the file |
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| 15:19.20 | malinus | themill, sorry for pinging again, but did you take a quick look at the deamon.log? |
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| 15:28.03 | malinus | dammit |
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| 15:28.15 | Peace- | i have installed wheezy on virtual box |
| 15:28.19 | Peace- | minimal installation |
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| 15:28.30 | Peace- | and when i do tput setaf 2 |
| 15:28.36 | Peace- | it doesn't show the colour |
| 15:28.38 | Peace- | :s |
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| 15:28.52 | Peace- | i mean i should see red words |
| 15:28.59 | malinus | shouldn't I be able to ping myself? |
| 15:29.03 | malinus | like "ping localhost"? |
| 15:29.09 | wols | malinus: yes |
| 15:29.19 | malinus | wols, okay I think that is the problem then |
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| 15:29.51 | malinus | let's try rebooting |
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| 15:33.14 | some1_ | I was addicted to watching pornography for 10 years, write me if you want to know more :) |
| 15:33.50 | bazhang | !ops | some1_ |
| 15:33.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | some1_ |
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| 15:36.55 | mentor | some1_: Remain on-topic. |
| 15:37.57 | malinus | bstarek, themill sorry for pinging again again. But I just wanted to let you know that the problems were caused by the fact that I didn't have a local interface up. |
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| 15:40.04 | wldef | hi |
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| 15:44.08 | jaami | Babalau, deleted xorg.conf and now restarting system |
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| 15:44.28 | userland | How does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD? |
| 15:44.45 | jaami | babilen, , deleted xorg.conf and now restarting system |
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| 15:46.10 | babilen | userland: This is #debian, try ##freebsd |
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| 15:48.10 | `ryban | :) |
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| 15:50.58 | jhutchins | babilen: How did he end up with an empty xorg.conf? I thought he was going to create a stub file in conf.d and restart X, now he's rebooting? |
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| 15:51.22 | userland | "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" |
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| 15:51.46 | babilen | jhutchins: I think jaami explicitly created an empty xorg.conf |
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| 15:52.01 | arthurfiggis | hello :) i'm currently using the wheezy-backports version of the nvidia drivers (nvidia-kernel-dkms), with 3.2 they work great...but with 3.13 from backports, i'm affected by the same bug as these people here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735630 does anyone know if this has been resolved for the wheezy-backports drivers yet? |
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| 15:52.21 | babilen | userland: exactly -- if you have questions regarding Freenode and how to use its services ask in #freenode please. This really has nothing to do with Debian. |
| 15:52.42 | userland | btw, it was a joke. google my question :P |
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| 15:53.09 | userland | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_does_one_patch_KDE2_under_FreeBSD%3F |
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| 15:53.38 | babilen | userland: Please play elsewhere, thank you. |
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| 15:55.43 | qasket | What does +q do? |
| 15:56.25 | Angelous | how do i find out how much ram a process is using? |
| 15:56.51 | babilen | qasket: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml (but please take further questions to #debian-offtopic or #freenode) |
| 15:57.05 | jhutchins | Angelous: top |
| 15:57.26 | guampa | after cleaning up a vm (removing some packages i don't quite remember esp because deps), grub throws a "file not found", though it does boot |
| 15:57.36 | guampa | how can i debug that? |
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| 15:57.47 | jhutchins | guampa: What file is it looking for? |
| 15:57.51 | Angelous | ty, jhutchins |
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| 15:58.16 | guampa | jhutchins: doesn't say, wait i'll rebot it again to be sure |
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| 15:59.09 | jhutchins | guampa: Do you have a verbose boot screen? You can remove "quiet" from the end of the boot command to get more information. |
| 16:00.31 | jhutchins | guampa: there should be logs in /var/log for dpkg and the other package utilities. |
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| 16:03.02 | guampa | jhutchins: thanks for your help brb phone atm |
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| 16:07.56 | guampa | jhutchins: thanks. yes i've searched in the dpkg log for "grub", but nothing. The error appears before the grub menu or prompt, and after the "grub loading / welcome to grub" |
| 16:08.27 | guampa | it's a line reading "error: f0 read error" and four "error: file not found" |
| 16:08.47 | guampa | after that the menu shows up, times out and boots normally with the newest kernel |
| 16:10.22 | guampa | i'll try reconfiguring grub |
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| 16:11.42 | jhutchins | guampa: Yes, and possibly a filesystem check (shutdown -Fr now). |
| 16:11.59 | guampa | ok |
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| 16:17.31 | guampa | nope, after dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and shutdown -Fr now the messages persist |
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| 16:25.21 | jhutchins | I suppose you could re-install grub. It's probably not grub that's damaged, but something related. |
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| 16:26.49 | guampa | yeah, i guess i'll start checking the other vms, maybe it isn't a new problem after all, from what i gather in searches it might even not be grub |
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| 16:27.06 | guampa | seems that broken bioses may cause the error too |
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| 16:27.47 | ConnextionEval | Can anyone help me on this linux error i keep getting every now and then http://i.imgur.com/eDa1X0V.jpg |
| 16:27.58 | guampa | thanks! |
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| 16:28.19 | petn-randall | !ops child porn pasted by ConnextionEval |
| 16:28.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: child porn pasted by ConnextionEval |
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| 16:35.50 | malinus | I've only been here a couple of hours, is this normal? |
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| 16:36.03 | malinus | I guess with 1.5k people it is. |
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| 16:36.42 | petn-randall | malinus: No, first time I saw things like this in 2 years. But let's move on. |
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| 16:40.53 | jhutchins | I'm always suspicious when people post image files instead of describing the problem. |
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| 16:53.12 | PlogFloyd | anyoneobdy know php and can explain this error? http://goo.gl/mzptU5 |
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| 16:57.32 | gdaymate | is there a way to use dpkg or apt-get to see which version of a package is in the repositories? E.g. if I want to download foobar > v.1.7, is there a quick way to check what version is in the repos? |
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| 16:58.45 | justanotheruser | During installation, I try to install grub and it says "Executing grub-install /Dev/mapper failed. This is a fatal error." This is my partition table. http://imgur.com/3rFPDH2 |
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| 16:59.03 | justanotheruser | Do you see anything wrong with the partition table |
| 16:59.31 | jelly | justanotheruser: is that the exact, full error? |
| 16:59.31 | gdr4336 | Unknown command: crawl |
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| 16:59.47 | jelly | /dev/mapper is not a valid device to install grub onto |
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| 16:59.57 | zykotick9 | gdaymate: "apt-cache policy foo" is one method, but that might not be what you mean... good luck. |
| 17:00.10 | justanotheruser | jelly: yes. Before that it says "unable to install grub in /Dev/mapper" |
| 17:01.03 | gdaymate | zykotick9: yeah, I think that solves it! The "candidate" field is the version that would be installed from the repos? |
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| 17:01.21 | zykotick9 | gdaymate: judd's versions command in #d is handy to show all versions available in the various debian tracks. |
| 17:01.41 | zykotick9 | gdaymate: ya, candidate would be what "would be" installed. |
| 17:01.56 | jelly | justanotheruser: that does not make a lot of sense. However, if you're setting up an encrypted layer, it makes things easier if you have a separate, unencrypted /boot partition and filesystem |
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| 17:02.41 | jelly | justanotheruser: I'd make a separate 200-500MB partition for /boot and a large one for the rest |
| 17:02.41 | gdaymate | zykotick9: thanks! |
| 17:03.07 | jaami | babilen: thanks a lot, deleted both files and debian came back to working state. and i ate my food happily |
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| 17:03.51 | justanotheruser | Did anyone say anything, I got disconnected after that last comment |
| 17:03.56 | gdaymate | cool, and thanks for the judd command! |
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| 17:11.32 | necrogami | I'm trying to setup a bridged network adapter and for some reason after creating vmbr0 ip addr reports the bridge as UNKNOWN link/void |
| 17:11.34 | necrogami | any idea why? |
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| 17:14.15 | jhutchins | justanotheruser: /dev/mapper is not a valid device, you need /dev/mapper/<something>. |
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| 17:24.44 | spinningcompass | What’s the proper way to obtain a list of all packages available from a specific Debian repository? |
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| 17:25.27 | mtn | spinningcompass: I use synaptic, which makes it easy to do so |
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| 17:28.45 | hexhaxtron | What is the deferwq process for? |
| 17:30.56 | spinningcompass | mtn: Thank you. :) |
| 17:31.38 | mtn | spinningcompass: yw |
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| 17:34.25 | M4rkus | Hi! I have an issue after upgrading debian squeeze to wheezy. Its a md softraid and lvm2 volumes. after booting the error message is "grup rescue" error:invalid license |
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| 17:35.28 | M4rkus | I can boot with a rescue / live system and can access to everything after chrooting but I cannot manage to update grub so the system is again booting normal with grub |
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| 17:36.30 | M4rkus | during the dist-upgrade from squeeze everything seemed to be o.k.... until the reboot |
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| 17:36.57 | centrx | hexhaxtron, It is a kernel process for handling a certain kind of queue (defer wait queue) |
| 17:37.14 | krpt | :D M4rkus , I think there are outstanding bugs concerning lvm and raid atm |
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| 17:38.04 | spinningcompass | I’m playing with creating a customized Debian distro, just for fun. I’m having trouble grasping some of the concepts. It seems as if the differences between Debian-based distros can be grouped into (a) patches that are applied to individual packages when they are rebuilt, (b) packages that are added/removed by default, compared to Wheezy (or whichever); and (c) differences in systemwide configuration (DNS, firewall, etc.). What did I miss? |
| 17:38.05 | spinningcompass | :-/ |
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| 17:39.03 | M4rkus | hmm so should / can I remove raid 1 so I can get it up and running again ? |
| 17:39.25 | centrx | spinningcompass, That's the general idea. Of course the sum is greater than those simple parts |
| 17:39.36 | krpt | M4rkus: forget what I just said , i read Jessie |
| 17:40.00 | centrx | M4rkus, You tried running update-grub2 ? |
| 17:41.06 | M4rkus | I used update-grub not grub2 in any combinations |
| 17:41.31 | zykotick9 | M4rkus: centrx update-grub & update-grub2 are the exact same - one's just a link to the other |
| 17:41.40 | Nik05 | update-grub2 is just a symlink to update-grub |
| 17:41.43 | M4rkus | k |
| 17:42.37 | M4rkus | I tried with /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and also tried with "(hd 0)" and "(hd 1)" |
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| 17:44.53 | wols | M4rkus: so you don't even get to the grub menu, right? |
| 17:45.07 | M4rkus | exactly |
| 17:45.15 | wols | if so, then update-grub is the totally wrong program. you need grub-install instead |
| 17:45.24 | M4rkus | the error message is shown instantly |
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| 17:45.49 | ciaobelli | ciao |
| 17:45.55 | ciaobelli | !lista |
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| 17:46.01 | wols | chroot into your installation and use grub-install then, and with it, your /dev/sda etc options are actually appropriate |
| 17:46.14 | wols | !tell ciaobelli about list |
| 17:46.48 | M4rkus | anything else ? |
| 17:47.02 | M4rkus | "installation finished. No error reported" |
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| 17:47.26 | wols | M4rkus: you chrotted into it and had /proc and /dev bind mounted? then it should be ok. note: "should be" |
| 17:47.32 | sa_ | iam a engineering cse student studying 3rd year iam very much intrested in linux |
| 17:47.46 | sa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.53 | sa_ | how to do that any guidence |
| 17:48.03 | sa_ | i know java bash python C |
| 17:48.04 | M4rkus | yes I did it along this howto http://blog.mydream.com.hk/howto/linux/howto-reinstall-grub-in-rescue-mode-while-using-lvm-mdadm |
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| 17:48.08 | wols | sa_: have you ever programmed? if so, what programming language? |
| 17:48.14 | sa_ | is those languages are enough to me |
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| 17:48.33 | sa_ | java c bash python |
| 17:48.34 | sa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.37 | wols | sa_: all of them are available in debian. you can start with "apt-get install build-essential" for C/C++. |
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| 17:49.09 | sa_ | i hate C++ and i dont want learn it without C++ can i devlop the software |
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| 17:49.12 | krpt | yes sa_ pick a project you like , suscribe to the mailing list and contribute, easy as pie |
| 17:49.22 | arthurfiggis | sa_: any one of those languages would be good depending on what you're trying to write :) if you're interested in writing GUI applications in particular, i'd suggest looking at qt quick (part of more recent releases of qt creator) |
| 17:49.33 | wols | sa_: you can develop software with any of the languages you listed in debian. no problems at all |
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| 17:50.00 | M4rkus | no same result after grub-install |
| 17:50.01 | sa_ | ok and iam not a big devlopper can i get small projects? |
| 17:50.07 | sa_ | for learning purpose |
| 17:50.10 | arthurfiggis | i started learning qt quick/qml because i knew more javascript than c++, qt quick lets you use javascript to write the application logic and qml (which looks a lot like css really) to lay out the gui...almost as fast as visual basic for beginners :) |
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| 17:50.24 | wols | sa_: you don't "get projects". you just do whatever you want. |
| 17:50.31 | M4rkus | GRUB loading. Welcome to GRUB! error: incompatible license. Entering resue mode... |
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| 17:51.17 | wols | M4rkus: google says "thats is due to the newest grub 2.0 which conflict with the previous grub 1.99 before upgrading ." |
| 17:51.26 | wols | M4rkus: so what does dpkg -l |grep grub say ? |
| 17:52.14 | sa_ | any link for full guide how to devlop any debian project |
| 17:52.21 | sa_ | and list of projects to select |
| 17:53.12 | abrotman | sa_: debian.org/intro/help IIRC |
| 17:53.18 | krpt | sa_: what i wrote , don't look for more complicated |
| 17:53.48 | krpt | people of the project will guide you |
| 17:54.02 | krpt | contribute to what you like/use |
| 17:54.18 | sa_ | where to register to start |
| 17:54.38 | abrotman | sa_: you don't register, you submit patches, etc to bugs, or file bugs, or create man pages .. see the URL I gave you |
| 17:54.40 | krpt | find a project |
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| 17:55.11 | M4rkus | I am on the way to chroot into it |
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| 17:59.18 | jhutchins | M4rkus: It sounds like the grub version in the MBR does not match the grub version on the system. Do you have more than one OS installed? |
| 17:59.33 | sa_ | so what about qt i wanna devlop gui application in debian is there any link for to learn qt |
| 17:59.56 | M4rkus | no, only one os |
| 18:00.36 | Affix | jelly: Yes bnx2 is installed |
| 18:00.53 | Affix | I discovered the cause of the issue is in a mis-configured network device |
| 18:00.59 | jhutchins | M4rkus: I have no personal experience, but I believe I've seen people break the raid, install grub on each device, then reassemble the raid. |
| 18:01.24 | arthurfiggis | sa_: if you were interested in learning/using qt quick this would be a good place to start on it :) http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-index.html i've never done any gui programming until now, but i've found it pretty easy to work with |
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| 18:01.59 | abrotman | sa_: I already told you how to help .. go read the website. |
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| 18:02.23 | sa_ | i had gone through the website |
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| 18:02.28 | sa_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.49 | M4rkus | when doing lvm pvscan I get: "found duplicate PV ... using /dev/md127 not /dev/md126 |
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| 18:02.56 | sa_ | when i opened devloping site it contains so many things policy documentation .....gibberish iam getting confused |
| 18:03.06 | abrotman | sa_: okay, so go read the BTS, start fixing bugs |
| 18:03.40 | sa_ | my aim is to write the software and packaging it with .deb format |
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| 18:06.51 | M4rkus | jhutchins: it shows version 1.99-27+deb7u2 after chrooting |
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| 18:10.48 | Extensa5630G | so now that I uninstalled all of the fglrx* non-free packages, there isn't any GUI at all, only tty1, shouldn't the OS get back to the opensource ati driver? |
| 18:10.56 | Extensa5630G | i use debian wheezy kde |
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| 18:11.18 | centrx | Extensa5630G, Install the free radeon driver? |
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| 18:11.42 | Extensa5630G | centrx: what is its package name?i use the tty currently |
| 18:11.45 | centrx | Extensa5630G, xserver-xorg-video-radeon or xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 18:11.52 | abrotman | it might have blacklisted it |
| 18:11.52 | centrx | depending on your card |
| 18:11.52 | Extensa5630G | centrx: i see, thanks |
| 18:12.01 | Extensa5630G | mine is ati hd 3470 anyyway |
| 18:12.05 | Extensa5630G | *anyway |
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| 18:12.35 | centrx | Extensa5630G, Looks like it's a radeon |
| 18:12.51 | Extensa5630G | centrx: yep, codnamed mobility radeon |
| 18:12.59 | Extensa5630G | codenamed* |
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| 18:15.52 | M4rkus | at packages.debian.org I can see that grub 1.99-27+deb7u2 is the correct version |
| 18:20.30 | wols | M4rkus: delete everything grub, make sure /boot/grub/ is empty and then reinstall it |
| 18:20.54 | Extensa5630G | d'oh, it seems like fglrx-legacy-driver is on my way, it echoes this thingy everytime that i try to install the opensource ati driver |
| 18:20.57 | Extensa5630G | Unable to read from: /root/aaa |
| 18:21.04 | Extensa5630G | my bad.. |
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| 18:21.50 | Extensa5630G | i meant this: |
| 18:21.50 | Extensa5630G | Unable to read from: /home/hassen/aaa |
| 18:21.53 | M4rkus | wols: how to reinstall ? apt-get remove grub && apt-get install grub ? |
| 18:21.57 | Extensa5630G | :o |
| 18:22.38 | wols | M4rkus: no. I gave you command above. use it |
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| 18:26.46 | M4rkus | wols: sorry can´t find it. Was it "grub-install" ? |
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| 18:29.55 | penth | Does anyone wordpress using the wheezy packages as opposed to a tarball? |
| 18:31.39 | elbing | hi. Since network-manager 0.9.8.0-5 system cannot connect wifi anymore. iwlwifi, lenovo l420, i386 32b. And the only one way to reboot is by cli (but I think this is an issue with gnome and systemd/sysvinit-core). Any idea about nm? |
| 18:32.10 | ctmjr | <wols> M4rkus: delete everything grub, make sure /boot/grub/ is empty and then reinstall it |
| 18:32.56 | hexhaxtron | What is the deferwq process for? |
| 18:33.19 | centrx | hexhaxtron, That question was already answered. Scroll up. |
| 18:33.30 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, is there anything i should get to see why php5-fpm insists to change sockets' permissions to root:root instead of www-data:www-data? |
| 18:33.38 | ToApolytoXaos | could it be something with groups? |
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| 18:35.23 | Ruum | hey guys I did an expert install of debian |
| 18:35.35 | Ruum | that is totally GUIless |
| 18:35.46 | hexhaxtron | centrx: and fsnotify_mark? |
| 18:35.59 | lucido | on my web server, what usr.grp should own the serverd filed and with what perms |
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| 18:36.27 | Ruum | but now I am trying to run an instance of a derivative of mysql, so I trying installing mysql-admin - and debian says it cant find the package. |
| 18:36.31 | centrx | hexhaxtron, Also a kernel process, probably related to inotify |
| 18:36.40 | Ruum | Can anyone help? |
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| 18:37.15 | mentor | Ruum: The package does not exist. |
| 18:37.15 | wols | M4rkus: dpkg -l |grep grub |
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| 18:37.24 | mentor | !tell Ruum about search |
| 18:37.32 | penth | mysql runs just fine on the command line ; apt-cache search mysql |
| 18:37.40 | Centor | is there any pre-installed tool for connecting via ethernet? |
| 18:37.50 | centrx | Ruum, That package was removed from Debian |
| 18:38.07 | wols | Centor: what tool would you need? there is a dhcp client and there is an editor to edit your network configuration. what else is necessary? |
| 18:38.09 | Ruum | so how do I administer mysql? |
| 18:38.18 | Ruum | what package do I need? |
| 18:38.33 | Ruum | besides mysql-client |
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| 18:38.40 | babilen | Ruum: mysql-server is a start |
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| 18:39.00 | centrx | Ruum, mysql-workbench is a GUI mysql admin tool |
| 18:39.00 | Ruum | babilen: I am using memsql |
| 18:39.04 | jhutchins | WHich tmp directory is supposed to persist across reboots? |
| 18:39.21 | centrx | Ruum, Then why are you installing mysql packages? |
| 18:39.32 | metaphysician | jhuq |
| 18:39.32 | Ruum | because it works with mysql |
| 18:39.46 | qasket | Will debian go to systemd soon and on maybe version 8? |
| 18:39.46 | babilen | Ruum: In that case I don't quite follow - http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ has information on various versions of MySQL |
| 18:39.48 | Ruum | memsql is a derivative of mysql |
| 18:39.54 | centrx | qasket, Correct |
| 18:39.59 | Ruum | www.memsql.com |
| 18:40.02 | babilen | qasket: It will, yes |
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| 18:40.11 | mentor | Ruum: You can use any of the available administration tools, including the included command line tools to administer mysql |
| 18:40.20 | mentor | Ruum: What do you want to be using? |
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| 18:40.52 | mentor | qasket: By default, yes. |
| 18:41.02 | M4rkus | wols: dpkg -l |grep grub is only for getting installed version |
| 18:41.31 | jhutchins | Ah, /var/tmp, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.15.html |
| 18:41.33 | wols | M4rkus:not quite. it tells you about all the grub packages you have. which is the first necessary step to remove them all |
| 18:41.36 | centrx | qasket, Alternative init's will still be available, just as systemd is available today on wheezy |
| 18:41.55 | M4rkus | remove or purge ? |
| 18:42.14 | qasket | centrx: oh nice, so init and systemd. nice. |
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| 18:42.33 | Ruum | centrx: lol well just stop me when we get too far off topic |
| 18:42.35 | wols | Centor: please stop messaging people unasked. thank you |
| 18:43.00 | Ruum | guys just let me know when I need to ask #mysql I have that open too. |
| 18:43.12 | centrx | Ruum, What are you asking about now? |
| 18:43.13 | Ruum | but I DO need help with this from the #debian end. |
| 18:43.35 | mentor | Ruum: What are your requirements for mysql administration tools? |
| 18:44.18 | Ruum | mentor: being able to set the root password, adding users, securing my installation... things like that. |
| 18:44.23 | wols | Centor: ifdown eth0 will work if you configured your network via /etc/network/interfaces. how to make it work with systemd automatically I don't know however |
| 18:44.35 | mentor | Ruum: You can do all those things with the command line tools |
| 18:44.40 | babilen | Ruum: Run "mysql" and use standard commands on the command line. |
| 18:44.48 | wols | first two is done via commandline (or maybe phpmyadmin). 3rd is simpyl bogus |
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| 18:45.06 | penth | M4rkus, what are you trying to do with grub? update it or reinstall the boot blocks? |
| 18:45.11 | babilen | Ruum: Please also note that we do not support memsql as that is not packages in Debian AFAICT |
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| 18:45.59 | M4rkus | penth: reinstall |
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| 18:46.07 | Ruum | babilen: I know, but almost all the stuff it uses, uses mysql tools |
| 18:46.11 | wols | M4rkus: I would purge. and as I told you: check /boot/grub/ afterwards |
| 18:46.45 | Ruum | babilen: I am just trying to find the best tool - the one that gives me the most control. And I definitely dont mind CL. :-) |
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| 18:46.55 | penth | wols is right. backup, --purge, and install. |
| 18:47.23 | babilen | Ruum: Then use the command line. It's perfectly fine to do that. |
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| 18:48.00 | Ruum | babilen: but what debian mysql package does that? mysql-client ? |
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| 18:48.58 | lucido | who should own the files in /var/www? |
| 18:49.05 | babilen | Ruum: yeah |
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| 18:49.16 | Ruum | babilen: that works. |
| 18:49.19 | Extensa5630G | how to fix a broken package in the tty1(given that my ati fglrx is screwed and that i'm trying to install the open source drive, but fglrx-legacy-driver is getting in my way)? |
| 18:49.23 | babilen | lucido: www-data is one convention on Debian |
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| 18:49.25 | Extensa5630G | i use debian wheezy |
| 18:49.38 | Ruum | babilen: lol now I have other problems.... like most of my .sock files arent there. |
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| 18:49.57 | babilen | Ruum: They might be in your .drawer |
| 18:50.21 | babilen | Ruum: But honestly: Where do you expect what kind of file to be? |
| 18:50.24 | lucido | babilen, from https://wiki.debian.org/Apache/Hardening: For historical reasons, the Apache runs as a user named www-data. This is somewhat misleading since normally, the files in the ?DocumentRoot (/var/www) should not be owned or writable by that user. |
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| 18:51.46 | Ruum | well I trying to locate memsql.sock - and it tells me where, but I do an ls and the file isnt listed. :-/ |
| 18:51.54 | babilen | lucido: You can change ownership to whatever you want if you don't want to use www-data |
| 18:52.14 | babilen | Ruum: Ask memsql support |
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| 18:52.30 | penth | I save /var/www for files owned by www-data and use /srv/www for files owned by users |
| 18:52.36 | penth | but that's just me |
| 18:52.41 | Ruum | babilen: lol I have already emailed them twice.... waiting on a response. |
| 18:52.56 | babilen | Ruum: Yes, #debian still does not support it. |
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| 18:55.18 | Ruum | babilen: I am not trying to be a pain in the ass, again using my derivative of a LAMP stack, it just a matter of WHERE in the stack do I need to solve the problem. So right now I am trying to fix the "L" part |
| 18:55.19 | sgnut | Does anyone know how can I create a cgroup to limit the CPU.shares per user, I mean to fix for instance a 10℅ of CPU per user? The only solution that I know is to create one cgroup for each user |
| 18:55.31 | M4rkus | there are complaints while reinstalling grub-common that /dev/pts (not mounted?) so all this get "no such file or directory" |
| 18:55.42 | lucido | babilen, my concern is that then apache or php wont be able to write there (serving CMSMS) |
| 18:56.05 | Ruum | babilen: so if I am looking in the wrong place, I will just look to the "M" part instead. |
| 18:56.26 | M4rkus | before chrootin I did mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev so everything should be good |
| 18:57.02 | babilen | lucido: The user apache runs as obviously requires the permission to write to /var/www if you want it to write there. That that is not necessarily the *most* secure way of configuring Apache should also be obvious. |
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| 18:57.24 | hexhaxtron | centrx: and iprt? |
| 18:57.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell M4rkus -about fixmbr |
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| 18:57.47 | wotvad | does anyone know of a way to retrieve a list of all manually installed packages? The catch here is to exclude those pkgs installed by debian-installer. |
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| 18:59.11 | babilen | lucido: You always have to find a balance between security and ease of use or features. The most secure system is one that has been turned off and ground to pieces. It is, however, not a very usable one. This is why you will find contrary advice on how to configure things. You could, if that is possible, only make a small number of selected directories/files writable for www-data. |
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| 18:59.52 | babilen | lucido: It really depends on what you are trying to do and PHP doesn't necessarily have the best security track record to begin with. |
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| 19:00.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell wotvad -about aptitude clone |
| 19:00.15 | lucido | babilen, you're right. I'll take trq's advice from http://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/186274-debian-varwww-file-permissions/ |
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| 19:02.55 | wotvad | babilen: that's not what I have been looking for |
| 19:04.13 | babilen | wotvad: How so? |
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| 19:06.04 | wotvad | babilen: the aptitude cmd that the bot has been telling me also lists packages that have been installed by debian installer. I need a list that only contains those that have been installed manually after installation by the debian-installer |
| 19:06.49 | babilen | wotvad: It's impossible to do that because *you* have been installing those packages too. What are you really trying to do? |
| 19:06.59 | babilen | dpkg: tell wotvad -about standard |
| 19:07.05 | babilen | dpkg: tell wotvad about essential |
| 19:07.26 | wotvad | babilen: these packages have been chosen by the people who defined what's a minbase system :-) |
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| 19:08.01 | babilen | wotvad: Essential packages will be installed in every case (and their dependencies) and the standard task should be installed on most systems -- Maybe you can compile the list of packages you are looking for based on these sets? |
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| 19:09.19 | wotvad | it's good for different things to know just what one has installed manually. I don't want to go through such pains as to have a script or something remove the packages that are listed as essential |
| 19:09.46 | wotvad | (I mean remove from the resulting list) |
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| 19:10.34 | babilen | wotvad: You have complete logs in /var/log/apt/history.log* -- It's just that packages you installed during the initial installation (e.g. the "desktop task") also count as manually installed. Rightfully so I would argue. |
| 19:10.49 | babilen | wotvad: What is contained in that list that you don't want in there? |
| 19:11.24 | wotvad | babilen: nothing; because it's empty on my system :-) |
| 19:11.43 | wotvad | babilen: I am currently using Debian live but have already installed some pkgs |
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| 19:12.35 | babilen | wotvad: Well, that is not comparable at all to a normal installation. Does '~i!~M!~v' really not match a single package? |
| 19:13.33 | babilen | wotvad: So your real question is: How can I find all explicitly/manually installed packages on Debian live? |
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| 19:14.24 | wotvad | babilen: it's more important for me to have it on an installed system, because that is what I am using most of the time. But I guess one solution fits both. |
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| 19:14.48 | babilen | Well, it obviously doesn't. |
| 19:15.05 | babilen | What do you want to use that list for? |
| 19:15.23 | wotvad | babilen: does the cmd you have written ('~i!~M!~v') not include apt and the like? |
| 19:16.07 | wotvad | I just want to know what I have installed explicitly |
| 19:16.19 | babilen | wotvad: It sure does, it was explicitly installed and not pulled in as a dependency. |
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| 19:16.33 | diginet | how would I get gvfs to mount say, ftp.example.com as /home/myusername/ftp/example.com |
| 19:17.14 | babilen | wotvad: Parse your logs then. As explained earlier: From the perspective of the package manager there is no difference between explicitly installed packages during the initial installation and later on. |
| 19:17.56 | wotvad | babilen: I still guess that one solution would fit both because what is listed on an installed system via debian-installer is what is part of the live system and thus marked as such the same way |
| 19:18.43 | wotvad | babilen: that's why I said from the beginning that that's "the catch", to exclude pkgs installed by debian-installer (or included on a live system which is similar) |
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| 19:18.48 | babilen | wotvad: You said that "aptitude search '~i!~M!~v'" is empty on a live system (which I am too lazy to verify now, so I just believe you) |
| 19:18.55 | cek | test |
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| 19:19.19 | babilen | cek: You want ##test |
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| 19:19.54 | centrx | That is a pretty overblown reaction to someone typing a single word |
| 19:19.55 | wotvad | babilen: no, the file /var/log/apt/history.log is empty is what I meant :-) |
| 19:20.19 | wotvad | babilen: the cmd you wrote gives all packages installed minus the pkgs marked as auto |
| 19:20.53 | babilen | wotvad: Ah, okay -- fair enough. Sorry that I misunderstood that (I was surprised, but who knows what those live people do) |
| 19:21.40 | babilen | wotvad: I am not aware of any way to distinguish between packages that you installed with the debian installer or those that you installed later on. |
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| 19:23.17 | Tachyon` | what on earth is +q? |
| 19:23.24 | babilen | quiet |
| 19:23.27 | Devastatr | quiet mode |
| 19:23.27 | Tachyon` | ahh |
| 19:23.34 | babilen | Tachyon`: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
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| 19:23.50 | babilen | → #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 19:25.37 | wotvad | babilen: okay, thanks anyway. I think of always creating a list of all manually installed packages right after installation (which are, of course, the ones installed by debian-installer) and then to remove those lines from a later on generated list in order to retrieve the explicitly installed packages |
| 19:25.52 | tormen | Hi. I am having getting a nice Kernel panic - not syncing: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 0 when syncing onto a btrfs parition, which (after talking to the btrfs guys) leads to the interest of having a 3.14.4 kernel on my debian stable machine. ... But it wants a gcc-4.8 to compile it :( ... is that *really* necesary ?! |
| 19:26.15 | tormen | s/having getting/getting/ |
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| 19:26.44 | wotvad | "a nice kernel panic" implies that there might exist kernel panics that are not nice |
| 19:27.05 | tormen | wotvad: or it could be ironic :) |
| 19:28.22 | larrikin | having a crash kernel in place works for me |
| 19:28.46 | babilen | tormen: It should hit wheezy-backports in a while. Would 3.13 be an option for now? |
| 19:28.48 | tormen | ... so I guess either I do like this guy : http://pevma.blogspot.fr/2014/04/upgrading-debian-wheezys-kernel.html and just compile 3.14 with gcc 4.7 ... or I woud need a chroot build-environment which would be "sid" unstable ? |
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| 19:29.15 | tormen | babilen: I am already using 3.13 (because of btrfs) |
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| 19:29.30 | babilen | Ah, fair enough |
| 19:29.51 | tormen | babilen: "in a while" = days / weeks / hard-to-tell ? |
| 19:29.54 | babilen | moves btrfs back to the "definitely not ready" list |
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| 19:30.29 | babilen | tormen: It has to transition into testing first (without bugs, couple of days) and it typically doesn't take too long for a backport to appear. I'd say 2-3 weeks. |
| 19:30.34 | tormen | babilen: I was moving 3TB on a 4TB partition with compression=zlib... and I think it's the compression that causes the problem |
| 19:30.54 | tormen | babilen: thanks ! |
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| 19:31.09 | babilen | tormen: Where does the gcc dependency come from? |
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| 19:31.32 | tormen | babilen: I think from the "linux" package let me check |
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| 19:32.27 | babilen | tormen: So you are referring to the kernel as packaged in sid and not the kernel itself? I would be quite surprised if you wouldn't be able to change that build-dependency yourself and simply compile with a version that is available in wheezy. |
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| 19:33.35 | babilen | tormen: It's just not a fully automatic backport, but you have to put some work in ... Adjusting the build-dependencies to match the situation on the target system is a pretty standard task and I guess that's all you need in this case. |
| 19:33.45 | tormen | babilen: "So you are referring to the kernel as packaged in sid" ... yes I think.. I did a "apt-get source linux" which got me the 3.14.4 (with debian patches, so I assume as packaged in sid) |
| 19:34.06 | tormen | babilen: ok, cool. |
| 19:34.16 | babilen | Just grab the source packages, edit debian/control and adjust debian/rules (if necessary), "dch -l+local1" + build |
| 19:34.41 | tormen | makes sense! ... I don't know why I was somehow thinking that it might actually NEED something from the gcc-4.8 ;) |
| 19:34.47 | babilen | tormen: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 19:35.06 | tormen | babilen: hehe, that works. Thanks a lot! |
| 19:35.17 | babilen | tormen: Well it *might* (you never know), but I would be surprised if that is actually the case. |
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| 19:35.54 | babilen | I think it is more a case of "it is available in sid, so lets use it) |
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| 19:35.58 | babilen | s/)/" |
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| 19:36.07 | tormen | babilen: would this decision be easy to find in the debian package doc for sid or something ? |
| 19:36.29 | babilen | tormen: It might have been explicitly noted in debian/changelog |
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| 19:38.25 | tormen | babilen: ok, no the changelog is clean, so I guess you are right. Cool, I'll add your remarks to my /learn/it/debian/build-from-source___backport_your-own-packages ;) |
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| 19:39.47 | ompaul | and then to the wiki and let it be said |
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| 19:42.42 | RichiH | 1/09 |
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| 20:08.22 | M4rkus | o.k. maybe the raid is the issue here cat -proc-mdstat shows both hdds active but with U_ and the other disk with _U |
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| 20:09.23 | M4rkus | mdadm -D /dev/md127 reveals that the it has 33429770 Events |
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| 20:15.02 | Jeeves_Moss | I have a beagleone black, and I would like to install the desktop. How do I do that from the CLI without all the addons for open office, etc? |
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| 20:16.04 | wols | Jeeves_Moss: which desktop? |
| 20:16.11 | wols | Jeeves_Moss: and you can disable recommends |
| 20:16.39 | Jeeves_Moss | wols, I'd prefer Gnome. I'm intsalling it on a BBB, so I have to make sure that not a lot of extra crap gets installed |
| 20:17.03 | M4rkus | I give up for now. Have a nice evening everyone and thx for trying to help me. |
| 20:17.08 | wols | so disable recommends. and /msg dpkg install gnome |
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| 20:18.16 | Jeeves_Moss | wols, thanks |
| 20:19.18 | wotvad | is there an apt-get equivalent to "aptitude hold"? |
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| 20:31.07 | justanotheruser | On the install grub phase of installing Debian, I get "executing grub install /dev/mapper failed. This is a fatal error". http://imgur.com/3rFPDH2 that is my partitioning to the left and I think its the cause of the problem. Do you guys see anything wrong with my partitioning and the LVM I tried to set up? |
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| 20:32.48 | drac_boy | hi |
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| 20:33.06 | lucido | why are home directories readable by other in debiean by default |
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| 20:33.56 | drac_boy | just had to ask out of curiousity but does the Expert install even let you actually select things or its still somewhat broken yet in the current version? |
| 20:34.42 | dvs | lucido: I'd like to ask the very same question. :-) |
| 20:34.58 | lucido | feels good to come back to debian after ten years of ubuntu, it doesn't try to hold your hand |
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| 20:35.18 | vook | I think it still only lets you select tasks. You're really better off don't a minimal install anyway and then using aptitude after the first boot |
| 20:35.30 | vook | don't/doing |
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| 20:36.16 | drac_boy | vook thats the problem...I already did ask for minimal install but its still wanting to tie up a lot of things |
| 20:36.16 | zykotick9 | lucido: you can change the default home directory permission if you wish (fyi, it's the same in ubuntu) |
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| 20:36.25 | Jeeves_Moss | is there any simple way of displaying system info (load, disk space, etc) on a webpage? |
| 20:36.34 | filenox | @lucido, interessting question („why are home directories readable by other in debiean by default”) |
| 20:36.40 | vook | drac_boy: minimum or "standard" ? |
| 20:36.47 | vook | minimum is with nothing selected |
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| 20:37.37 | vook | Jeeves_Moss: ganglia |
| 20:37.45 | filenox | Jeeves_Moss you can extract system info and post it with a PHP-page |
| 20:38.18 | magyar | hi, I'm looking for a vnc alternative for a remote connection from stable to stable desktop. The vnc server installed by gnome and kde is very slow. |
| 20:38.42 | DammitJim | can I use tar to uncompress a rar file? |
| 20:38.55 | vook | magyar: freenx is nice, but can be toilsome to build and install (in later versions of debian) |
| 20:39.01 | vook | DammitJim: not |
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| 20:39.20 | vook | freenx is much faster than vnc |
| 20:39.22 | filenox | DammitJim install unrar or unrar-free |
| 20:39.23 | drac_boy | vook well to put it bluntly: Expert Install > Standard System + Laptop > ok...now why does it want to tie up a lot of time and net neverminding I'm just going to have to uninstall a lot of apps afterward to then get to a somewhat useable point |
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| 20:39.26 | centrx | magyar, There are also different packages that can be VNC servers: apt-cache search vnc server |
| 20:39.46 | drac_boy | whatever happened to the more classic distros anyway..but meh what do I know |
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| 20:40.13 | Jeeves_Moss | filenox, do you have a URL to an example? |
| 20:40.24 | zh1 | does debian iso have an option to low level format hard disk? |
| 20:40.27 | centrx | drac_boy, Just don't choose to install anything on that menu? |
| 20:40.38 | centrx | zh1, yes |
| 20:40.42 | vook | drac_boy: if you select nothing, you can often get to a bootable state without any (or nearly any) net usage on install |
| 20:40.56 | zh1 | centrx, is it using dd? |
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| 20:41.13 | vook | "standard" installs all kinds of packages you may not want or need, such as cups |
| 20:41.16 | magyar | centrx: I know there is a bunch if them, I guess I need to install and try each individually, but in my experience vnc is a slow solution. |
| 20:41.24 | magyar | thanks vook |
| 20:41.29 | drac_boy | centrx...what you mean? I didn't even ask for file server or anything if thats what you mean |
| 20:41.31 | zykotick9 | vook: i could be wrong, but i think even "standard tools" are included on the netinst image... without need for network |
| 20:41.35 | filenox | well, not really but you can use shell_exec to show it. For example $uptime = shell_exec(uptime -p); echo $uptime; |
| 20:41.41 | filenox | Jeeves_Moss: |
| 20:41.48 | centrx | drac_boy, "Standard System + Laptop". The Standard system includes a lot |
| 20:42.27 | drac_boy | centrx...then pls explain how I'm even supposed to connect online neverminding making sure the fans wouldn't self-destruct? |
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| 20:42.39 | drac_boy | or is there something just more broken than I had always thought about debian |
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| 20:42.57 | Reelax | need help with copying files. Please check : http://paste.kde.org/pvrttyt98 |
| 20:43.04 | zykotick9 | drac_boy: are you using a wheezy netinst, or a testing netinst? |
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| 20:43.40 | vook | drac_boy: the debian installer has always been a point of contention. I personally like it, but it doesn't offer much control |
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| 20:44.30 | filenox | zykotick9: why are you asking? :) |
| 20:44.35 | vook | I wouldn't judge the distro by the installer at least |
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| 20:45.03 | drac_boy | vook why not? it wasted a lot of times and bogged down the system in meanwhile too |
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| 20:45.25 | zykotick9 | filenox: 'cause i've NEVER had any issues with netinst (even using expert install), while the "testing installer" isn't really for general consumption, and can't be depended on to work all the time. see <testing installer> for details. |
| 20:45.51 | wotvad | is it wanted that irssi does not highlight a post when one's nickname is mentioned but not in the beginning of a line but somewhere in between or is it a bug in my install? |
| 20:45.53 | filenox | it depends on your needs, for example, i’m using testing :P |
| 20:45.57 | filenox | zykotick9: |
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| 20:46.21 | zykotick9 | filenox: "/msg dpkg testing installer" |
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| 20:46.31 | drac_boy | zykotick mm can't really recall as I finally nuked the iso and went with someone else some time ago sorry |
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| 20:47.12 | centrx | drac_boy, So you're just here to complain about something that was easy to fix? |
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| 20:47.33 | drac_boy | centrx...the only fix is for the debian people to make the Expert Install -actually work- |
| 20:47.43 | zykotick9 | drac_boy: it does... |
| 20:47.45 | drac_boy | if I didn't select a DE why am I still getting craps for it |
| 20:48.13 | vook | drac_boy: that's just my take. I don't think, in Debian's case, the installer does a good job reflecting the integrity of the distribution as a whole. Keep in mind, there are other debian installers. Live CD's for example that can install a greater part of the system without reliance on the network. |
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| 20:50.28 | drac_boy | on a side note...can gimp run at console alone? |
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| 20:52.46 | ross` | excuse m, i'm using dovecot and exim4 imap with squirrelmail as a frontend, i want to know the cleanest way to create a email address/domain wildcard blacklist of email addresses/domains to not include in my inbox |
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| 20:53.22 | zykotick9 | drac_boy: no, it's an xorg program |
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| 20:56.42 | vook | drac_boy: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/ |
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| 21:00.01 | drac_boy | hmm zykotick9 I'm wondering why someone thought it seem ok to install gimp when 'desktop environment' pretty much isn't selected..oh well may be something else going on there |
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| 21:00.30 | drac_boy | this was like I thik 7.0 or testing 6.0 as far as I recall mind you |
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| 21:04.50 | Sonarpulse | I have some broken packages involving libstdc++ |
| 21:05.07 | Sonarpulse | how can I see a list of _installed_ reverse dependancies |
| 21:05.22 | Sonarpulse | before I try to use dpkg to remove the bad package installs |
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| 21:05.41 | v1ckyz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.41 | v1ckyz | FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is |
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| 21:05.41 | v1ckyz | Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- |
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| 21:06.10 | zykotick9 | Sonarpulse: you could try "apt-cache rdepends foo" or "apt-cache depneds foo" depending on the direction you want. |
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| 21:08.41 | Sonarpulse | zykotick9: doesn't that give me all (reverse) dependancies? |
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| 21:09.01 | Sonarpulse | if so I'll need to intersect installed packages |
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| 21:09.41 | zykotick9 | Sonarpulse: that might be true, perhaps it's NOT limited to installed packages. sorry, best of luck. |
| 21:10.02 | Sonarpulse | Ok, thanks for the help |
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| 21:15.24 | lucido | how does apache know for which virtual host the request is intended? |
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| 21:16.59 | babilen | lucido: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html |
| 21:18.03 | lucido | babilen, oh those chatty clients |
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| 21:18.19 | babilen | lucido: huh? |
| 21:18.39 | lucido | With name-based virtual hosting, the server relies on the client to report the hostname as part of the HTTP headers. |
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| 21:19.31 | teraflops | lucido it knows depending on how you request it |
| 21:19.43 | babilen | lucido: You can also use IPs or simply rely on the default "first" |
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| 21:25.21 | zh1 | get an error here "could not get updates", sources? |
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| 21:28.51 | ross` | excuse m, i'm using dovecot and exim4 imap with squirrelmail as a frontend, i want to know the cleanest way to create a email address/domain wildcard blacklist of email addresses/domains to not include in my inbox |
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| 21:29.32 | babilen | zh1: okay |
| 21:29.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell zh1 -about bat |
| 21:31.33 | zh1 | babilen, just used a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, sometimes it works fine but on software update warning it retrieves that could not get updates pop up |
| 21:32.14 | zh1 | weird |
| 21:32.29 | uncle_ben | i followed the advice here: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=216 in order to configure my user to be able to reboot/shutdown. it's not working. here's my configs: https://defuse.ca/b/veIoh8hayDmbwa5I6beOSj i'm using jessie |
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| 21:33.57 | babilen | uncle_ben: Which DE/DM are you using? Did you switch to systemd as init already or did you install systemd-shim? Please also take it to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing/unstable support |
| 21:34.01 | weezhard | exit |
| 21:34.09 | teraflops | zh1: did you tried other mirrors? |
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| 21:34.32 | SynrGy | uncle_ben: that advice is ancient |
| 21:34.40 | SynrGy | did you notice the date? |
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| 21:34.50 | babilen | didn't even look at the links |
| 21:34.50 | SynrGy | quite a bit has changed in debian since then |
| 21:35.06 | uncle_ben | SynrG, so does debian have updated info on a wiki? |
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| 21:35.21 | SynrGy | for jessie? no. it is not released yet. |
| 21:35.22 | babilen | uncle_ben: Oh yeah, and undo everyhting you changed |
| 21:35.44 | SynrGy | you're probably experiencing whatever bug du jour prevents it from working ... |
| 21:35.45 | uncle_ben | there must be a way for user to shutdown/reboot |
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| 21:35.59 | SynrGy | you chose to run testing by mistake, perhaps? |
| 21:36.05 | uncle_ben | it's really a bug issue? |
| 21:36.08 | uncle_ben | not config? |
| 21:36.11 | zh1 | teraflops, not yet |
| 21:36.15 | SynrGy | jessie is not released. what do you think? |
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| 21:36.29 | zh1 | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/100064/ have this |
| 21:36.35 | SynrGy | we support testing/unstable on #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
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| 21:37.01 | uncle_ben | calm down...i'm just playing with it in virtualbox...don't have these issues in arch...oh well...thanks anyway |
| 21:37.04 | babilen | uncle_ben: It would help if you could answer my questions, but please undo whatever you changed first. |
| 21:37.08 | Informanimo | hello, recommendation to apache? |
| 21:37.15 | SynrGy | uncle_ben: calm down? i'm trying to help. |
| 21:37.24 | SynrGy | right. doesn't want to be helped. oh well. |
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| 21:38.00 | SynrGy | someone needs to inform arch users jessie is not the "rolling release version" of debian :p |
| 21:38.52 | teraflops | i think they know that SynrGy |
| 21:39.16 | SynrGy | i think some of them don't |
| 21:40.14 | teraflops | may be a better definition of "arch user" would clarify that |
| 21:40.32 | SynrGy | sorry, i did not mean to disparage them as a group. |
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| 21:40.37 | teraflops | anyway its not related to the topic |
| 21:40.52 | teraflops | sure SynrGy my apologies |
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| 21:43.33 | extor | Is there any distro I can use or some tweak that will disable file journaling because according to top and iotop the journal writes are sucking up half of my disk load |
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| 21:44.09 | buu | https://www.google.com/search?{google:acceptedSuggestion}oq=ext4+disable+journaling&ion=off&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ext4+disable+journaling |
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| 21:45.57 | diginet | firefox crash, and no matter if I try and kill the process with kill, it still doesn't kill it, any suggestions? |
| 21:46.02 | diginet | *crashed |
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| 21:46.26 | zykotick9 | diginet: firefox proper, or iceweasel? |
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| 21:46.37 | diginet | zykotick9: the former |
| 21:46.58 | Mr-R | diginet: try kill -9 |
| 21:47.00 | zykotick9 | diginet: not supported in #d then... i'm sure mozilla has a channel somewhere. |
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| 21:48.06 | sgnut | extor: there is an option in fstab/mount to disable journaling |
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| 21:49.17 | extor | ext4 defaults,data=writeback,discard,noatime,nodiratime 0 0 what else can I add to this |
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| 21:49.57 | Mattx | Hi |
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| 21:50.50 | Mattx | I want to install an app which depends on libdigest-sha1-perl, but for some reason it's not in wheezy |
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| 21:50.51 | Mattx | why is that? |
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| 21:51.50 | buu | Where are you getting this app from? |
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| 21:52.17 | Mattx | let me check, I installed it long time ago, not sure if I compiled it |
| 21:52.41 | Mattx | it seems I compiled it |
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| 21:52.48 | Mattx | and it was working until I upgraded |
| 21:53.09 | buu | If you compiled it manually why not manually install the perl module then? |
| 21:53.13 | Mr-R | Mattx: whats wrong with libdigest-sha-perl? |
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| 21:53.52 | babilen | judd: v libdigest-sha-perl |
| 21:53.53 | judd | Package: libdigest-sha-perl on i386 -- squeeze: 5.48-1; wheezy: 5.71-2+deb7u1; jessie: 5.90-1; sid: 5.90-1 |
| 21:53.57 | buu | Woah, digest::sha1 is old |
| 21:53.58 | babilen | Mattx: ^^^ there you go |
| 21:54.11 | buu | babilen: Because thats a different module =] |
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| 21:54.20 | babilen | Ah, lovely :) |
| 21:54.21 | Mattx | Mr-R, I don't know, this app is compaining because I don't have libdigest-sha1-perl |
| 21:54.22 | Mattx | :| |
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| 21:54.41 | babilen | .oO( port the program to the other sha digest library ? ) |
| 21:54.49 | Mattx | I do have libdigest-sha-perl |
| 21:54.56 | buu | Well, yeah, or just install the old library |
| 21:55.01 | babilen | And with this shitty advice I bid you all farewell. Good night :D |
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| 21:56.41 | buu | Mattx: If the program is literally checking for the debian installed package you're kinda out of luck |
| 21:56.51 | buu | But I'm sure there's a way to trick debian into reporting a package as installed |
| 21:56.52 | SynrG | sha1 is crap. you don't want to be using it anyway |
| 21:57.29 | Mattx | I'm checking if there's an upgrade for this app, maybe it got fixed |
| 21:57.54 | Mattx | lol |
| 21:58.01 | Mattx | it went from 3.8.1 to 3.8.2 |
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| 21:58.08 | Mattx | I'm guessing it's still a problem |
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| 21:58.20 | babilen | Mattx: "this app" ? And what does upstream say about support? |
| 21:58.21 | buu | Mattx: Why is something you compiled literally asking for a *debian* package? |
| 21:58.33 | Mattx | it's ddclient, I suppose you don't know it |
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| 21:58.54 | buu | My router does that for me =/ |
| 21:59.00 | babilen | ddclient? That's old :) |
| 21:59.05 | Mattx | is it? |
| 21:59.07 | Mattx | what do you use? |
| 21:59.29 | Mattx | (I don't want to put that on my router) |
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| 21:59.42 | babilen | judd: v ddclient |
| 21:59.43 | judd | Package: ddclient on i386 -- squeeze: 3.8.0-11.3; wheezy: 3.8.0-11.5; jessie: 3.8.1-1.1; sid: 3.8.1-1.1 |
| 21:59.53 | babilen | Mattx: So, "apt-get install ddclient" done? |
| 22:00.15 | Mattx | it's even older in wheezy ^ |
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| 22:00.47 | babilen | Mattx: Are you saying that the version in wheezy doesn't work? |
| 22:01.08 | Mattx | I'm saying chances are that it doesn't work, yes |
| 22:01.15 | Mattx | I'll try, one sec |
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| 22:01.59 | babilen | Mattx: btw, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=ddclient might be of interest |
| 22:02.10 | lakcaj | Hello. I'm running wheeze with i3wm. Bought a new logitech mouse and the speed it way too fast. I'm currently slowing by running xinput manually in a terminal, but it seems to keep reverting back. Do I have to specify the mouse speed somewhere for it to stay persistent? |
| 22:02.18 | lakcaj | s/wheeze/wheezy |
| 22:02.22 | Mattx | ~~ installing 3.8.0 ~~ |
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| 22:04.31 | babilen | lakcaj: Create a suitable Xorg configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (e.g. 10-slowdown.conf) -- Refer to "man 5 xorg.conf" and read about "POINTER ACCELERATION" |
| 22:04.51 | babilen | lakcaj: I am sure that there are plenty of examples to be found on the internet if the manpage is a bit too dense. |
| 22:05.46 | babilen | lakcaj: The exact xinput command you use would come in handy btw |
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| 22:05.52 | lakcaj | babilen, thanks a lot... I'll try that. |
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| 22:07.02 | babilen | lakcaj: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#In_Xorg_configuration has a bit of information. But read the manpage and figure out which options your xinput command corresponds to and then create a suitable file. |
| 22:07.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell lakcaj -about xorg.conf.d |
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| 22:18.24 | A|an | Does there exist a Debian package naming convention? |
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| 22:26.20 | babilen | A|an: You would typically use the upstream name, but there are various naming schemes for libraries, python software, perl software, java software, ... |
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| 22:38.46 | AlexLikeRock | whats need iceweasel to open -----> index.asp |
| 22:38.52 | AlexLikeRock | ??? |
| 22:39.01 | abrotman | AlexLikeRock: what? |
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| 22:39.22 | AlexLikeRock | i open a web page in iceweasel |
| 22:39.33 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.37 | abrotman | and what? |
| 22:40.01 | AlexLikeRock | and , whit iexplore on WinShit , they open the full webpage |
| 22:40.12 | abrotman | so ask the person that coded the page |
| 22:40.33 | AlexLikeRock | no way |
| 22:40.45 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.56 | AlexLikeRock | like html ,php ,etc . |
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| 22:41.02 | abrotman | no |
| 22:41.14 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 22:41.21 | abrotman | Okay, you clearly don't know what you're talking about |
| 22:41.34 | AlexLikeRock | mmmmmmmm |
| 22:41.36 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 22:41.46 | abrotman | AlexLikeRock: Talk to the developer of that website, not us |
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| 22:42.09 | FaTony | asp code runs on the server, not in the browser |
| 22:42.27 | abrotman | But the browser has to render the generated code |
| 22:42.35 | abrotman | He should still talk to the developer |
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| 22:42.42 | AlexLikeRock | they have a <script language="JavaScript"> inside |
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| 22:42.49 | phy1729 | If I boot with a /etc/network/interfaces of https://gist.github.com/e5a04283ffaf426b59c8 and then change it to https://gist.github.com/9c0f422630c4dbe36f12 when I run ifdown -va --exclude=lo (or when networking reload does) I get RTNETLINK answers: No such process after the line ip route del default via 192.168.42.3 dev eth1 2>&1 1>/dev/null || true |
| 22:42.54 | phy1729 | This meakes sence becuase the route does indeed not exist but it means that sudo service networking reload will hang. How can this be fixed? |
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| 22:43.03 | abrotman | AlexLikeRock: Please talk to the developer of that ASP page |
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| 22:43.12 | AlexLikeRock | MMmmmm |
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| 22:43.45 | abrotman | AlexLikeRock: Please talk to the developer of that website to determine why it may not work in a non-IE browser. |
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| 23:04.09 | A|an | babilen: I hate to show my stupdity, but what's meant by upstream? |
| 23:04.19 | abrotman | A|an: the original software author |
| 23:04.24 | A|an | oh |
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| 23:05.43 | Fedev | I'm assuming Iceweasel will stay DRM free even when Firefox is adding DRM support to the browser, am I right? |
| 23:05.50 | ompaul | A|an: absence of knowledge is not stupidity, not asking would have been stupid. ;-) You did the clever thing and asked a reasonable question. |
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| 23:06.22 | A|an | The reason I ask about naming, reinstalling bitcoin-qt, it required libdb4.8-dev, but the package is only referred to as libdb4.8, when configuration fails...I was wondering if there's a convention for naming where one can ascertain the proper package name. |
| 23:06.33 | abrotman | Fedev: the browser is DRM free .. you mean will it support DRM? |
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| 23:07.20 | Fedev | Yes, that's what I mean abrotman . I hope not? |
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| 23:08.28 | ompaul | looks in his crystal ball and notes that the future can't be foretold until it is history. |
| 23:08.39 | abrotman | no, but Fedev can contact the maintainer |
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| 23:09.04 | ompaul | abrotman: that much is possible. |
| 23:09.51 | A|an | That's an example of a commonly encountered thing, though...only having the truncated name to ascertain the proper package from. |
| 23:09.53 | Fedev | Since Debian has always stayed on that good side of the fence, I thought it would remain that way |
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| 23:11.08 | Fedev | Thank abrotman. ompaul, what a pity about that crystal ball |
| 23:11.38 | abrotman | Fedev: you could perhaps file a bug (minor severity) and request information about that |
| 23:11.39 | Fedev | s/Thank/Thanks/ |
| 23:11.53 | abrotman | Fedev: be aware, supporting DRM doesn't make the package non-free IMO |
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| 23:12.31 | ompaul | it may be possible for it to be an apt-get installable thing at some future point |
| 23:12.54 | Fedev | I know, however Iceweasel is what it is so far because they have removed certain parts which Firefox had. Since the new DRM code is closed source, I thought Iceweasel wouldn't want to have it there |
| 23:13.44 | linuxuz3r | hi |
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| 23:14.08 | linuxuz3r | so is there drm for movies and flash on firefox webbrowser? |
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| 23:15.05 | Fedev | Not yet. Flash would require HAL. Bad thing. Firefox is trying to implement a sandbox which works with some close code from Adobe |
| 23:15.40 | Fedev | So eventually, you should be able to play DRM content on it |
| 23:15.44 | babilen | → #debian-offtopic please |
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| 23:16.33 | Fedev | I'm not particularly happy about it so I'm hoping Iceweasel won't follow that approach linuxuz3r |
| 23:16.52 | linuxuz3r | i love opensource |
| 23:17.08 | linuxuz3r | and free software |
| 23:17.18 | Fedev | I guess all of us here do. It is kind of sad to see Firefox heading this way |
| 23:17.20 | linuxuz3r | but movie companies need to make money |
| 23:17.38 | linuxuz3r | its hard to make movies now a days |
| 23:17.48 | Fedev | They can have another way. Adding DRM support on the browser won't stop piracy |
| 23:18.09 | linuxuz3r | Fedev, how do you curb piracy then |
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| 23:18.24 | mtn | guys, you have been asked nicely to move it to offtopic |
| 23:18.31 | linuxuz3r | sorry |
| 23:18.34 | Fedev | Yeah, quite right |
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| 23:20.56 | Owner__ | whats the best practices for installing a package from sid when you are on wheezy ? |
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| 23:21.30 | babilen | Owner__: Short answer "don't" |
| 23:21.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell Owner__ -about ssb |
| 23:21.55 | babilen | Owner__: You can try to backport it yourself if it hasn't been backported already |
| 23:22.06 | babilen | Owner__: Which package are you thinking of? |
| 23:22.27 | Owner__ | php 5.5.12 |
| 23:22.51 | babilen | ugh, no .. that will be hard. |
| 23:23.08 | Owner__ | i have a fresh vm to try on |
| 23:23.26 | Owner__ | but i guess i should install php5 current beforei try to replace it as well |
| 23:24.05 | Owner__ | how do i check for a backport ? |
| 23:24.35 | babilen | Owner__: My recommendation would be to use a distribution that ships that PHP version. You could try backportsing it, but the package will be tailored for Apache 2.4 and not Apache 2.2 and there are probably a large number of other differences. |
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| 23:24.56 | Owner__ | ah |
| 23:24.58 | babilen | Owner__: There is none |
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| 23:25.08 | jmcnaught | not to mention there are over 70 php5 packages in wheezy that would probably need to be backported as well |
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| 23:25.50 | babilen | Oh, I thought I'd mentioned that. Excellent point jmcnaught! |
| 23:26.28 | Owner__ | so do i take the source for the current php and patch in the new source package from php.net and then build ? |
| 23:26.49 | babilen | Owner__: My recommendation to use a distribution that ships that PHP version still stands |
| 23:27.12 | Owner__ | cant re-install the server... |
| 23:27.16 | babilen | (or to get your devs to write code that runs on 5.4 and 5.5) |
| 23:27.18 | Owner__ | just want to upgrade |
| 23:27.24 | jmcnaught | Owner__: have you tried using the php that comes with wheezy? note that debian applies something like 145 patches to the upstream php5 in wheezy |
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| 23:28.07 | Owner__ | someone asked me to build a php 5.5.12 64-bit package for debian... |
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| 23:28.19 | babilen | Owner__: What is the problem with 5.4 in wheezy? "just want to upgrade" is easily said, but very hard when it comes to PHP. I have yet to encounter another language that is that version specific... |
| 23:28.24 | Owner__ | bt i saw one exists in sid |
| 23:28.31 | jmcnaught | Owner__: another point to consider, when you backport you need to repeat the process every time there's a security update (vs letting debian handle that for you) |
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| 23:28.48 | Owner__ | so then the question is |
| 23:28.58 | babilen | Owner__: Yes, it does exist in sid, but that doesn't mean that it is available in wheezy. |
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| 23:29.06 | Owner__ | how to switch to sid to upgrade php...you say its not great becaue it will want to upgrade apache also ? |
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| 23:29.50 | alex3 | hello friends, |
| 23:30.03 | Owner__ | alex3, hello! |
| 23:30.10 | babilen | Owner__: Seriously, don't even consider running production boxes on sid. Let alone those that serve PHP. The current Ubuntu release ships PHP 5.5 so use that. |
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| 23:31.18 | jmcnaught | Owner__: or convince your friend to target versions that are available in the stable release of the platform she/he is using |
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| 23:33.14 | justanotheruser | Recommend a repository that will let me install chromium, I2P, Tor, Bitcoin and a bunch of other useful mainstream programs please |
| 23:33.17 | jmcnaught | Owner__: php5.5 for wheezy can be found in some third-party repositories too, but that is also not recommended because package conflicts can be very tough to support (and you probably won't get much help here). If you absolutely need php5.5 babilen's suggestion to use Ubuntu is probably best |
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| 23:35.28 | jmcnaught | justanotheruser: most of those are available in debian aren't they? |
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| 23:38.56 | Owner__ | well i installed wheezy php5 |
| 23:39.12 | Owner__ | then replaced wheezy with testing in sources.list, apt-get update, and then apt-get install again |
| 23:39.16 | Owner__ | then switched it back |
| 23:39.41 | Owner__ | seems fine |
| 23:40.18 | Owner__ | could this setup not be maintained with a slightly more involved weekly/daily upgrade process |
| 23:40.29 | dvs | Owner__: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 23:40.44 | Owner__ | ii libc6:amd64 2.18-5 amd64 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 23:40.54 | dvs | welcome to testing |
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| 23:41.25 | Owner__ | so it upgraded libc also...i wasnt looking closely ;) |
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| 23:59.11 | N34lO | hi, i have some problems with debian jessie in an vm |
