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| 00:02.51 | linuxator | is zfs filesystem supported? |
| 00:03.35 | Aeiri | linuxator: for native ZFS on linux due to licensing issues, you have to go here: http://zfsonlinux.org/ |
| 00:04.00 | centrx | ZFS FUSE is in the repository though |
| 00:04.13 | Aeiri | centrx: yeah but it slow as fuck |
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| 00:15.21 | jimcooncat | linuxator: not to detract from Debian, but I know there's people who like PC-BSD for setting up zfs on a shared server |
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| 00:16.33 | linuxator | jimcooncat: u happened to be one of them |
| 00:17.03 | linuxator | me too |
| 00:17.44 | xparanoik | not sure if this has been talked about in here today, but... http://news.techworld.com/security/3507256/windigo-linux-bot-hijacks-servers-feast-on-pcs-behind-sysadmins-backs/ |
| 00:17.50 | xparanoik | openssh exploit |
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| 00:18.01 | xparanoik | lot of info released on it |
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| 00:24.17 | jimcooncat | xparanoik: my ssh does not have a -G option |
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| 00:25.05 | jimcooncat | xparanoik: so it spits out an "illegal option -- G" error |
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| 00:29.06 | ___FBi | xparanoik, http://downloads.securityfocus.com/vulnerabilities/exploits/OpenFuckV2.c ? |
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| 00:29.37 | skytrash | old |
| 00:30.15 | skytrash | used in on some pentests |
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| 00:30.57 | dondelelcaro | xparanoik: it's not an ssh exploit, it's a mechanism of trojaning ssh and maintaining the trojan status |
| 00:31.53 | skytrash | but orginially exploit with that exploit |
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| 00:33.42 | skytrash | if your going to use that openfuck you have to add a couple headers |
| 00:34.31 | skytrash | or the mod ssl |
| 00:35.14 | Routh | I'm failing ato Google today. I have a Macbook Pro - I DO NOT want dual boot. I DO NOT want EFI. I wand single boot Debian in BIOS Compatibility mode. Yet no matter how I word it, Google just brings back documents on dual booting with EFI. Can someone please point me to a relevant document on Single boot BIOS compatibility mode? |
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| 00:35.20 | Aeiri | he already left, but as i understood it if -G doesnt exist you arent exploited |
| 00:35.43 | centrx | Routh, Disable EFI in the BIOS |
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| 00:36.04 | Routh | It's a Macbook - there is no Bioa |
| 00:36.08 | Routh | *BIOS |
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| 00:40.14 | LordDeath | SMB share on a Windows Server: Why does Thunar not ask for a login but Dolphin does? |
| 00:41.39 | nkuttler | LordDeath: it's already mounted when thunar tries to access it? |
| 00:41.54 | LordDeath | nkuttler: no |
| 00:41.59 | LordDeath | it cant mount it |
| 00:42.14 | LordDeath | because the server denies the access for guests |
| 00:42.16 | nkuttler | no idea then... maybe it has the credentials saved |
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| 00:42.53 | LordDeath | no, it just gives me an error that the server denied it |
| 00:43.30 | LordDeath | Nautilus and Dolphin are asking me for me Login but Thunar doesn't |
| 00:43.52 | LordDeath | but well, I think I should try to mount it over fstab |
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| 00:45.13 | pakaran | Hi, how do I keep Calibre from opening all PDF files, but adding them to the library and never actually opening them? Somehow it grabbed the file association. |
| 00:46.05 | nosklo | pakaran: right click a pdf file, go properties > open with |
| 00:46.20 | nosklo | pakaran: there you can set the default program |
| 00:46.56 | pakaran | thanks |
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| 01:23.02 | p8m | I'm getting this "Hash Sum mismatch" error when I run apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/v2cnbqA2 |
| 01:23.30 | p8m | Does anyone know what could cause this? I'm on amd64 and just added i386 |
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| 01:34.44 | SanchoPensa | hi! |
| 01:34.59 | dotDeb | so debian is detecting my flash drive but i don't know how to access the files |
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| 01:35.09 | SanchoPensa | i am trying to enable the backports repository according to this description: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 01:35.11 | dotDeb | on ubuntu it showed up in the file manager |
| 01:36.26 | SanchoPensa | unfortunately i receive an error message when i apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch http://debian.lagis.at/debian-backports/dists/squeeze-backports(-sloppy)/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 83.164.133.195 80] |
| 01:36.50 | SanchoPensa | i get that one on several mirrors that i have from this adress: http://backports.debian.org/Mirrors/ |
| 01:37.07 | SanchoPensa | any thoughts please? |
| 01:37.12 | dotDeb | do i need to mount the flash drive? |
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| 01:37.29 | dvs | SanchoPensa: Use http.debian.net ? |
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| 01:38.06 | SanchoPensa | dvs: i will give it a shot, sev pls |
| 01:38.11 | SanchoPensa | sec even |
| 01:39.32 | SanchoPensa | dvs: same error, i must have somthing wrong in the sources.list syntax or something... |
| 01:39.40 | dvs | must |
| 01:39.53 | dotDeb | hm, the logs say that usbmount mounted the device |
| 01:40.01 | dotDeb | where do i go to access the device in debian? |
| 01:40.04 | dotDeb | it's a flash drive |
| 01:40.31 | LtL | dotDeb: look in /media/ or possibly /mnt/ |
| 01:40.33 | SanchoPensa | dvs: what have i gotten wrong? http://paste.debian.net/88488/ |
| 01:41.02 | dotDeb | LtL thanks ill look |
| 01:41.21 | SanchoPensa | except for that i should maybe remove the cd-rom link...? |
| 01:41.22 | dvs | SanchoPensa: remove "[-sloppy]" |
| 01:41.35 | SanchoPensa | dvs: k, sec pls |
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| 01:42.24 | SanchoPensa | dvs: chams, thanks :) do the sloppy backports from jessie still work now...? |
| 01:42.40 | dvs | I don't use testing. |
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| 01:43.09 | LtL | dotDeb: if you just type 'mount' in a terminal, you should see where it is |
| 01:43.12 | SanchoPensa | dvs: i see, thanks anyways! :) |
| 01:43.15 | dotDeb | LtL found it, thanks |
| 01:43.22 | LtL | dotDeb: cheers |
| 01:43.31 | dotDeb | :) |
| 01:43.43 | SanchoPensa | the instructions in the debnian wiki should be adapted accordingly, though... |
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| 01:44.40 | SanchoPensa | now... i urgently need consulting on flash please... |
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| 01:45.31 | centrx | Debian Installer Jessie Alpha 1 Released |
| 01:46.24 | centrx | SanchoPensa, Remove the (-sloppy) |
| 01:46.38 | dvs | centrx: already said |
| 01:46.59 | SanchoPensa | that adobe flash really drives my hardware ressources into the ground; usually i have some 3-4 broswer windows open with some 20-40 tabs each... |
| 01:47.00 | SanchoPensa | now firefox "cleanes the memory" on a regular basis, for chromium there are plugins that keep your mem free, but the main perpetrator is actually always FLASH |
| 01:47.00 | centrx | I'll change the wiki, this keeps happening |
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| 01:47.06 | centrx | Except jessie doesn't have -sloppy does it? |
| 01:47.09 | centrx | I mean wheezy |
| 01:47.35 | centrx | SanchoPensa, Don't use Flash, it sucks |
| 01:47.44 | dvs | centrx: Or make two lines out of it. |
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| 01:48.04 | SanchoPensa | with adobes flash it is worst... last i started debian i had a live cd with some free flashplayer, and it was WAY BETTER! |
| 01:48.04 | SanchoPensa | unfortunately it wouldn't play half of the streams on the net like from youtube... |
| 01:48.27 | centrx | SanchoPensa, For Youtube and other video sites, use youtube-dl, cclive, or minitube |
| 01:49.00 | SanchoPensa | centrx: errr... i haven't heard of those, what are those..? |
| 01:49.44 | centrx | SanchoPensa, With youtube-dl and cclive, you simply run "youtube-dl <youtube video URL>" from the command line and it downloads the video in ordinary video format |
| 01:49.47 | SanchoPensa | centrx: i really agree on the flash suxx, dude, i really got an aversion agains ths f***** spyware crap... |
| 01:50.00 | centrx | SanchoPensa, minitube is a native youtube client, I haven't used it |
| 01:50.09 | SanchoPensa | OH! |
| 01:50.17 | SanchoPensa | and how about porntube? :D |
| 01:50.39 | centrx | SanchoPensa, youtube-dl and cclive work on many many video sites, not sure if that is one of them |
| 01:51.08 | SanchoPensa | centrx: hmm... if it works with one flash stream, why wouldnt it with another... |
| 01:51.33 | SanchoPensa | gosh, it would be such a relieve not to have to isntall adobes flash... SERIOUSLY!! |
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| 01:51.59 | centrx | SanchoPensa, It parses the website to find the flash link, and so forth |
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| 01:53.18 | SanchoPensa | mhm, clear... i realized, that debian has a habit of wanting to save mp4 files, if you haven't installed adobes crap yet, i suppose that is one of youtube-dl or cclive...? |
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| 01:54.14 | centrx | SanchoPensa, What? |
| 01:54.20 | SanchoPensa | nope it isnt... |
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| 01:54.47 | centrx | I do not know what you are saying. Your mind has been warped by watching too much pornography. |
| 01:55.22 | SanchoPensa | centrx: if you have no flash isntalled and you open youtube in iceweasel and click the vid, you get a dialog that asks you whether you want to save or open |
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| 01:55.35 | SanchoPensa | default says vlc |
| 01:55.51 | centrx | I'm not familiar with that. What browser are you using? |
| 01:55.56 | SanchoPensa | centrx: i am trying to explain, dude :D |
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| 01:56.08 | SanchoPensa | ya as saisd iceweasel :D |
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| 01:56.10 | centrx | That doesn't happen on my machine |
| 01:56.22 | SanchoPensa | it doesn't?? |
| 01:56.30 | SanchoPensa | WTF?? :D |
| 01:57.17 | SanchoPensa | i forgot to mention; when i click the save option it is ALWAYS a p240.mp4 file that it wants to save per default! |
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| 01:58.09 | centrx | SanchoPensa, Maybe you have a Firefox Extension that is doing that? |
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| 01:58.32 | SanchoPensa | centrx: none that i am aware of, but good theroy |
| 01:58.47 | SanchoPensa | theory, geez, dyslexia... |
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| 02:00.11 | SanchoPensa | centrx: vlc can play flash vids from youtube and porntube btw if you enter the url directly... |
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| 02:00.35 | centrx | !youtube |
| 02:00.36 | dpkg | YouTube is a video sharing website. Video download utilities include <clive>, <cclive>, <minitube>, quvi and <youtube-dl>; gcap can retrieve closed captions. For <VLC>, use Ctrl+N. The <HTML5> player can be used instead of <Adobe Flash> for supported browsers, see http://www.youtube.com/html5 ; for <Epiphany>, install the epiphany-extensions package and enable its HTML5 plugin. |
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| 02:03.20 | SanchoPensa | centrx: says there: The HTML5 player is currently used when possible. |
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| 02:03.34 | SanchoPensa | yeah... deonsn't seem possible that often usually... |
| 02:03.52 | SanchoPensa | then, where do i fiond that minitube and all? |
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| 02:04.02 | centrx | They are in Debian |
| 02:04.46 | centrx | It looks like youtube-dl and minitube are not in stable |
| 02:04.48 | SanchoPensa | not in mine... |
| 02:04.52 | SanchoPensa | am i missing some repos...? |
| 02:05.05 | SanchoPensa | mhm aparently.. |
| 02:05.09 | centrx | Try cclive and/or quvi |
| 02:05.22 | SanchoPensa | let me see if they are in he backports, since i just enabled them :D |
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| 02:06.11 | SanchoPensa | nope... |
| 02:06.47 | SanchoPensa | centrx: the point with the cclive and so on is, you need to actually DOWNLOAD all of those vids, i mean who doeas that...? :( |
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| 02:09.16 | SanchoPensa | or copy paste the link... |
| 02:09.17 | SanchoPensa | its cumbersome... |
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| 02:15.32 | converge | Im looking for a mail server for simple smtp/imap service, Im looking for something fast to setup and secure for 50 clients, does someone knows what mail server could help me ? |
| 02:17.59 | centrx | converge, exim? |
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| 02:19.11 | converge | centrx: será? pq vc recomenda ? |
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| 02:20.49 | dotDeb | so i insert my usb |
| 02:20.56 | dotDeb | and it says does not contain a filesystem or disklabel |
| 02:20.59 | centrx | converge, exim is the default, postfix is another good one but it might be more complicated than you need |
| 02:21.16 | dotDeb | after it says Attached SCSI disk |
| 02:21.24 | dotDeb | and i tried googling that error but nothing worked |
| 02:21.33 | dotDeb | is my usb corrupted? |
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| 02:21.38 | converge | centrx: sounds good, thanks |
| 02:22.35 | gnugnu9 | With what text editor (I prefer nano) can I see the newlline chars (LF / CR and friends)? |
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| 02:28.09 | dotDeb | anyone ever seen that? |
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| 02:28.20 | dotDeb | "does not contain a filesystem or disklabel" after usb drive insert |
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| 02:29.16 | nsgn | Well, what on earth. I had a working virtual machine of debian. Perfect. I cloned the disk and created a new VM cause I wanted another with very similar config. I now have no ethX interface. I can't get on the network. But LSPCI shows my ethernet card just fine. I'm stumped. Probably something simple. |
| 02:29.47 | nsgn | But literally same virtualizer software, same server physically..just duplicated the virtual hdd, made a new VM, and now no network. |
| 02:29.51 | viscera | nsgn, udev changed the device name due to the new mac |
| 02:29.55 | adh0c | Hi, I'm pulling my hair out trying to sort a remote backup using backuppc & rsync. On my client machine, rsync refuses to start in daemon mode claiming that its pid file at /var/log/rsyncd.log already exists. |
| 02:30.25 | nsgn | viscera, thas what I thought..but I can't figure out what on earth the new dev name is |
| 02:30.34 | viscera | nse, /etc/udev* |
| 02:30.45 | viscera | or just type ip ad |
| 02:30.46 | adh0c | I've verified this pid file does not exist while the daemon is down. Starting it will create that pid file, but then return the following error: |
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| 02:31.00 | adh0c | 2014/03/19 02:27:43 [22816] rsync: failed to create pid file /var/log/rsyncd.pid: File exists (17) |
| 02:31.22 | adh0c | Both /etc/rsyncd.conf and the init script are set up to use /var/log/rsyncd.pid. |
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| 02:31.48 | xbr3031 | the brightness adjustment on my laptop is really crazy. doing FN+brightness arrows seems to increase or decrease brightness at random, not incrementally. does anyone know if there is a fix for this? from what i was reading there's some talk about editing the grub configuration but i was wondering if that's neccessary |
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| 02:33.54 | nsgn | viscera, ha. ip ad showed it. it landed all the way up at eth7. wow |
| 02:34.10 | nsgn | what is that "ip ad" command? that's pretty handy |
| 02:34.17 | nsgn | like..what is it specifically doing internally? |
| 02:34.24 | SanchoPensa | what file manager alternatives are there to dolphin? |
| 02:34.27 | viscera | nsgn, what do you mean "what is"? |
| 02:34.35 | viscera | oh |
| 02:34.36 | nsgn | viscera, i mean what is it polling inside the os? |
| 02:34.40 | viscera | i have no idea |
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| 02:34.51 | viscera | strace it and find out, maybe |
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| 02:35.16 | nsgn | viscera, alright. thanks for the help. i'm gonna see if i can get this sucker online now |
| 02:35.19 | viscera | np |
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| 02:40.01 | dotDeb | :( mounting help anyone? |
| 02:40.08 | nsgn | viscera, works now. thank you. all i needed to know was that ip ad command to show interfaces. never knew that. always stabbed in the dark |
| 02:40.29 | dotDeb | im getting "does not contain a filesystem or disklabel" after usb drive insert |
| 02:44.13 | xparanoik | dotDeb try formatting it and then mount |
| 02:44.19 | xparanoik | you can mount a block device without a filesystem as far as i know |
| 02:44.25 | xparanoik | *can't* |
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| 02:44.37 | dotDeb | xparanoik how do i format it if it's not detected/mounted |
| 02:44.53 | xparanoik | detected and mounted are two distinct "states" |
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| 02:45.09 | dotDeb | xparanoik ok how do i format it if it's detected but not mounted |
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| 02:45.15 | xparanoik | if your usb stick was detected, then you could access it through /dev/*device_name* |
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| 02:45.39 | dotDeb | xparanoik but then how would i format it? |
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| 02:46.32 | xparanoik | man mkfs |
| 02:47.12 | dotDeb | xparanoik ah ok and would i do it to sdd or sdd1? |
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| 02:47.55 | xparanoik | those are probably your system drive and partitions |
| 02:48.28 | xparanoik | try lsusb to see the detected usb devices |
| 02:48.30 | dotDeb | xparanoik when i plug it in it says /dev/sdd does not contain a filesystem or disklabel |
| 02:48.39 | raxip | http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Hard_Disk_Formatting/Partitioning_and_Mounting_in_Debian_Linux |
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| 02:49.02 | dotDeb | xparanoik lsusb command not found |
| 02:49.26 | xparanoik | lsblk ? |
| 02:49.34 | raxip | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disk-format/ |
| 02:49.46 | dvs | dotDeb: You format /dev/sdd1 |
| 02:49.46 | dotDeb | xparanoik that's it thx |
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| 02:51.57 | dotDeb | ok this is weird |
| 02:51.58 | dotDeb | now |
| 02:52.02 | dotDeb | when i do lsblk |
| 02:52.11 | dotDeb | it says that sda5 = 9.1gb |
| 02:52.14 | dotDeb | which is the size of the drive |
| 02:52.22 | dotDeb | and sdd1 is 931mb |
| 02:52.42 | dotDeb | which is the size of the iso i tried to put on there |
| 02:53.03 | dotDeb | actually wait nvm |
| 02:53.10 | dotDeb | sda5 is my swap |
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| 02:53.18 | dotDeb | oh wait i see whats going on |
| 02:53.36 | dotDeb | is it normal to see sdd as 7.5G and then sdd1 as 931m? |
| 02:54.05 | xparanoik | did you try making a bootable usb drive? |
| 02:54.06 | dvs | Can be. Depends on partitioning. |
| 02:54.27 | xparanoik | it sounds like there's more than one partition, or empty space |
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| 02:55.28 | dotDeb | xparanoik how do i wipe it? |
| 02:55.54 | dvs | dotDeb: What do you want to use it for? |
| 02:55.54 | xparanoik | i think in your case a tool like gparted would be the easiest to work with |
| 02:56.01 | dotDeb | dvs making a bootable drive |
| 02:56.10 | dotDeb | dvs i tried using dd and that's what i think is on ther |
| 02:56.11 | dvs | dotDeb: For a Debian iso? |
| 02:56.15 | dotDeb | dvs no a different iso |
| 02:56.21 | raxip | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<drivehere> bs=1M |
| 02:56.47 | dotDeb | raxip what does the bs=1M do? |
| 02:56.52 | raxip | makes it faster |
| 02:57.23 | dotDeb | raxip ok |
| 02:57.47 | raxip | are you gonna actually read up on commands, or just ask questions non-stop? not trying to be rude, but these folks have been helping you.. and it doesn't seem like you've bothered to look up what they're saying |
| 02:59.14 | dotDeb | raxip i said ok, i'm done now |
| 02:59.27 | dotDeb | raxip i already knew dd |
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| 02:59.47 | raxip | you know dd, but you don't know the diff between sdd and sdd1? |
| 02:59.54 | raxip | interesting |
| 03:00.10 | dotDeb | raxip i knew to do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<drivehere> |
| 03:00.30 | dotDeb | raxip that doesn't mean i know anything about sdd vs sdd1 |
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| 03:01.43 | LtL | dotDeb: fyi sdd would be the drive, sdd1 would be a partition on sdd |
| 03:02.12 | dvs | LtL: he's gone |
| 03:02.22 | dvs | !next |
| 03:02.22 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 03:02.23 | LtL | dvs: ah, thx duh |
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| 03:15.47 | aax | ftheader.h: no such file or directory. It is in a subfolder in /usr/include. Still it cant find it :( |
| 03:17.38 | raxip | what's the full path of the file? |
| 03:19.43 | aax | raxip: /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/config/ftheader.h? |
| 03:20.42 | raxip | are you trying to compile something using gcc? |
| 03:20.59 | aax | raxip: yes :( |
| 03:21.07 | aax | slimlock |
| 03:21.16 | raxip | then you probably need to use "freetype-config --cflags" |
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| 03:21.47 | raxip | type that. it will be an additional command you need to compile. unless there's a ./configure script that comes with that. otherwise, there's generally a "--with-freetype=FOO" option |
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| 03:24.08 | aax | raxip: okey will try, thank you :) |
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| 03:37.05 | Okee | Is there a way to change the default browser in IceDove (Thunderbird)? |
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| 03:41.54 | Aeiri | Okee: yeah i did it recently hold on |
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| 03:44.02 | Okee | Aeiri> OK, I am holding/hanging.........:)(: |
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| 03:46.09 | Aeiri | wtf where did it go |
| 03:46.19 | Aeiri | well you should be able to use update-alternatives anyway |
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| 03:51.55 | Aeiri | Okee: got it |
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| 03:52.19 | Aeiri | Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Config Editor |
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| 03:52.31 | Aeiri | "I'll be careful, I promise!" |
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| 03:52.59 | Aeiri | network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http |
| 03:53.04 | Aeiri | toggle both results to true |
| 03:53.12 | Aeiri | close everything |
| 03:53.19 | Aeiri | next time you click a link it will ask what program to use |
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| 03:54.39 | Okee | Aeiri> So what exactly does the changes to the following do: network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http |
| 03:54.46 | Okee | ??? |
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| 03:56.10 | Aeiri | it warns you when you click a link that you are going to an external application, then lets you choose which application to use |
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| 04:02.01 | Okee | Aeiri> Thanks for your help. I will need some time to test this out. |
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| 04:05.30 | jerkey | can anyone tell me how to add a source of packages if i don't have it? I am trying to install android-tools-adb |
| 04:05.43 | jerkey | apt-cache search can't find it, so i googled it but i can't figure out how to get it |
| 04:07.47 | LtL | jerkey: add a deb-src line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:08.40 | jerkey | deb-src and something else on the line? how do i know what to put? |
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| 04:09.46 | LtL | jerkey: make an identical deb line as to what you have and adjust to deb-src http://etc.etc |
| 04:10.03 | LtL | then update |
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| 04:11.07 | jerkey | ok thank you i will try that.. how did you know that??? |
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| 04:11.25 | LtL | ive been at this awhile |
| 04:11.44 | jerkey | how was i supposed to know to do that? |
| 04:12.00 | jerkey | and why didn't they set it that way default? and what does it mean? |
| 04:12.05 | LtL | jerkey: the wiki probably documents it |
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| 04:13.02 | uwjesq | How can I ask another server for its fqdn? |
| 04:13.08 | LtL | jerkey: average users don't grab the source, what does it mean? thats kind of self-explanatory yeah? |
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| 04:13.42 | jerkey | do i want the source? i just want to install a package that other people talk about, but my system doesn't have it |
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| 04:14.23 | jerkey | it didn't work, it still says E: Unable to locate package android-tools-adb |
| 04:14.32 | LtL | jerkey: then deb-src is likely not needed, maybe contrib and non-free appended to existing deb lines and update |
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| 04:14.38 | themill | jerkey: what release of debian are you using? |
| 04:14.45 | jerkey | i'm running the latest crunchbang |
| 04:14.54 | LtL | jerkey: wrong channel |
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| 04:15.05 | themill | jerkey: then please ask the crunchbang people... adb is available quite happily for debian user |
| 04:15.06 | themill | s |
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| 04:16.22 | jerkey | i have deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free already but it still won't install. |
| 04:16.32 | themill | jerkey: wrong channel. |
| 04:16.37 | LtL | jerkey: bad idea |
| 04:16.52 | centrx | jerkey: run five laps |
| 04:17.22 | jerkey | um.. just looking for a little general advice on package problems. cb is based on debian anyway. |
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| 04:18.27 | jerkey | do you guys know how to tell what source a package is in? from this page: https://packages.debian.org/sid/android-tools-adb |
| 04:18.37 | themill | jerkey: there's no such thing as a "general package problem". There are problems with crunchbang packages. |
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| 04:19.26 | centrx | Interestingly, he connects from spaz.org |
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| 04:26.10 | shellox | hi |
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| 04:26.51 | shellox | A dev needs write access to /var/www. What's the cleanest way to realize that? |
| 04:27.00 | shellox | /var/www is owned by www-data |
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| 04:27.38 | shellox | is it better to change the owner of /var/www to dev:www-data or add him to the group www-data and give the group write access? |
| 04:28.08 | uwjesq | Second option sounds better imho. |
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| 04:29.29 | QuinnStorm | generally the latter, or perhaps go a step further and make the specific site owned by the user (some subdirectory under /var/www) |
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| 04:38.55 | costeyk | System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (13-inch 2011) • CPU: Intel Core i5-2415M (4 Threads, 2 Cores) @ 2.30 GHz • Memory: 8.00 GB • Uptime: 3 Days • Load: 33% • OS: Mac OS X 10.9.2 (Mavericks) (Build 13C64) |
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| 04:42.32 | compTECH | hello guys |
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| 04:51.09 | pozican | I'm having issues figuring out how alsa / pulse interact and/or coexist. Any documents anyone can recommend? |
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| 04:58.24 | henry_ | hello ladies and gentlemen |
| 04:59.15 | henry_ | can anybody hear me? |
| 04:59.18 | pozican | yes |
| 04:59.23 | pozican | well no |
| 04:59.24 | henry_ | thank goodness |
| 04:59.36 | pozican | but I'll PONG your PING if you know what I'm saying ;) |
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| 04:59.49 | henry_ | i'm actually henry151 but i'm having a hard time figuring out how to change my nickname for some reason. /nick henry151 doesn't seem to be doing it for some reason |
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| 05:00.41 | pozican | a little identity crisis; do you have a server message? Maybe there's already a henry151 on freenode? |
| 05:00.59 | henry_ | i've got henry151 registered |
| 05:01.11 | henry_ | but i'm using irssi which i'm not used to at all |
| 05:01.25 | henry_ | i usually use xchat |
| 05:01.47 | henry_ | so i can't even figure out how to switch to my server message window |
| 05:01.51 | henry_ | but anyway |
| 05:02.01 | henry_ | but anyway, here's my new issue |
| 05:02.03 | pozican | well, on your bottom bar it should say something like 2:freenode/#debian - 2 represents the window you are on. Try /w 1 to check server messages |
| 05:02.26 | pozican | you may also have a message from nickserv or something; on the right side of that info bar is "Act:" that shows you the wwindows with recent activity |
| 05:02.46 | henry_ | how do i switch them? |
| 05:03.00 | henry_ | literally type /w 1 ? doesn't seem to do anything |
| 05:03.08 | pozican | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.13 | henry_ | hm |
| 05:03.15 | pozican | i think alt+num or ctrl+num is another hotkey |
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| 05:03.33 | henry_ | aha |
| 05:03.33 | henry_ | thank you |
| 05:04.00 | henry_ | i think i'm logged in as Henry151 on another computer in the other room or something |
| 05:04.20 | pozican | i think so, you can use the ghost command with nickserv to kick him; or just stay henry |
| 05:04.35 | pozican | doesn't look like this channel requires being identified |
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| 05:04.58 | henry_ | so here's the new issue: Hp Pavilion TX2500 series convertible laptop, had a pirated copy of windows vista business on it, i just decided to make it a dual-boot with debian |
| 05:05.27 | pozican | self incriminating, I like it |
| 05:05.46 | bullgard4 | What is the executable filename of the Project Hamster (http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/about/) in Wheezy? |
| 05:05.47 | henry_ | i install debian from a "cd 1" iso on a thumb drive; use the installers partitioning tool to shrink the vista partition and make some room, install debian, everything looks good |
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| 05:06.15 | henry_ | start up debian and i see the x window login screen |
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| 05:06.25 | henry_ | click my username, "henry" |
| 05:06.36 | henry_ | type my password, and hit enter, and it gives me a blue screen |
| 05:06.40 | henry_ | a light-blue screen specifically |
| 05:06.45 | pozican | bullgard4: have you installed hamster-applet? |
| 05:06.58 | henry_ | for a moment i saw the debian background, but then it was covered by a blue screen. |
| 05:06.59 | themill | dpkg: tell bullgard4 about search |
| 05:07.38 | henry_ | so i hit ctrl+alt+f2 and started irssi from a terminal in tty2 so that i could ask you guys what i should do. |
| 05:07.51 | shekhinah | hello, all. I have wheezy and fvwm. I mounted cdrom by setting user in /etc/fstab, but still having a permission problem. what can I do? thx. |
| 05:07.52 | bullgard4 | pozican: No. But I have installed the relevant menu item. |
| 05:09.29 | henry_ | oh hey, i just ctrl+alt+f7'd back over to check it out, and it had a "enter your password" screen, so i typed my password and for a moment i saw gnome and it looked great and then, kaboom, light blue screen again |
| 05:09.34 | henry_ | but i saw something weird |
| 05:10.17 | henry_ | where it shows your username in the upper right corner--instead of showing "Henry", it said "H nry" |
| 05:10.37 | henry_ | and the date and time? it had only the number "9" and no other text there |
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| 05:13.12 | pozican | henry_: i'm not really familiar with the default install of debian. I'm guessing we should check your X.log first, and if things look ok, maybe the problem is in gdm |
| 05:13.19 | pozican | trying to find where gdm would log |
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| 05:14.23 | henry_ | such weird symptoms |
| 05:14.35 | pozican | try /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look around /var/log for soemthing to do with gdm |
| 05:14.52 | henry_ | now i can see the debian desktop and stuff but all the text is rendering with a bunch of missing characters |
| 05:15.01 | henry_ | thanks pozican i will check that out immediately |
| 05:15.03 | pozican | oh |
| 05:15.06 | pozican | gnome is running? |
| 05:15.34 | henry_ | yes |
| 05:15.38 | henry_ | gnome is now running |
| 05:15.48 | henry_ | but all the text renders with missing characters |
| 05:15.50 | henry_ | it's weird. |
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| 05:20.35 | shekhinah | what I am trying is that I have exe app I want to install using wine uninstaller. Should I try with autofs instead? thank you. |
| 05:21.05 | henry_ | in that log file you pointed me at, Xorg.0.log, i see something about the truetype font directory path not existing |
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| 05:22.11 | henry_ | all my i's, e's, and s's are missing |
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| 05:25.32 | henry_ | anybody ever seen anything like that before? |
| 05:25.55 | shekhinah | is autofs preferred? |
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| 05:33.06 | henry_ | so... |
| 05:33.26 | henry_ | no ideas about why my gnome wouldn't display all the letters of the alphabet? |
| 05:33.45 | Routh | How would I go about changing grub from EFI to non-EFI |
| 05:33.48 | Routh | ? |
| 05:34.02 | henry_ | electronic fuel ignition? |
| 05:34.05 | henry_ | :P |
| 05:34.28 | uwjesq | Hello. How can I see all installed packages that match a certain keyword with apt? |
| 05:34.58 | centrx | uwjesq, dpkg -l |grep <keyword> |
| 05:35.26 | centrx | henry_, Have you travelled back in time? |
| 05:37.02 | Routh | I need to install grub in standard mode for graphics drivers byt the Wheezy installer installs it in EFI mode on the macbook, I need to change that so I can boot in legacy |
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| 05:37.30 | uwjesq | It gives me rc postfix 2.7.1-1+squeeze1 High-performance mail transport agent 2.7.1-1+squeeze1 |
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| 05:37.45 | uwjesq | But if I want to remove rc or postfix it says there is nothing to remove. |
| 05:38.08 | centrx | uwjesq, rc is a notation from dpkg telling the package status |
| 05:38.36 | henry_ | centrx: probably. Who's the current queen of england? |
| 05:38.41 | uwjesq | centrx: I see. So the package is remote controled. |
| 05:38.53 | centrx | uwjesq, :) |
| 05:39.14 | centrx | uwjesq, Looks like rc means the package was removed, but the configuration files were not purged. So basically postfix is uninstalled/not installed |
| 05:39.29 | centrx | henry_, Engwhat? |
| 05:39.32 | uwjesq | centrx: Then why is it still running? |
| 05:39.56 | uwjesq | centrx: And why is it still running after a reboot? |
| 05:40.01 | centrx | uwjesq, Programs can run even if the binaries have been deleted. If it was uninstalled properly, the process should have been stopped. |
| 05:40.10 | centrx | uwjesq, Perhaps it was installed outside of the Debian package management system? |
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| 05:40.29 | uwjesq | centrx: I hope not. Not by me. |
| 05:41.22 | uwjesq | centrx: If I can not remove it is there a way from stopping the deamon to get started everytime and blocking the port for exim? |
| 05:41.27 | henry_ | so really though. If for some reason, gnome were to start being selective about which letters of the alphabet it would render, what would you think was going on? |
| 05:41.30 | centrx | uwjesq, Hmm, it's possible it was not actually uninstalled, but that it is marked for uninstallation, I read the definition of rc wrong I guess |
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| 05:41.46 | echo083 | helloooooooo |
| 05:41.46 | centrx | uwjesq, But you said dpkg --purge postfix does nothing? |
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| 05:42.29 | uwjesq | centrx: It removed it and deleted my config file, too. |
| 05:42.41 | centrx | ok |
| 05:42.45 | centrx | but it's still running on boot |
| 05:43.16 | centrx | If so, it undoubtedly means there is an installation of postfix that is not tracked by the Debian package management system -- not installed by apt/dpkg |
| 05:43.33 | uwjesq | centrx: No idea. Let's see how it does in the future. This server reboots more often then a shoe model. |
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| 05:43.50 | centrx | That is definitely the joke of the day |
| 05:44.04 | uwjesq | centrx: Was trying very hard. |
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| 05:44.39 | henry_ | hmm. here's something funny: when it goes to the lock-screen, the letters all render properly--in the upper right hand corner i see my username, "Henry" .... when i type my password and unlock the screen, then it changes to "H nry" |
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| 05:48.02 | m00n | Hello |
| 05:49.26 | m00n | So i kinda screwed up my debian I think. Its a VM, and non imperative, so i want to figure out how to fix it myself more or less... but I plan on asking questions because ive been atthis for a day and I need guidance |
| 05:49.56 | QuinnStorm | is here to help |
| 05:50.01 | m00n | thanks |
| 05:50.12 | QuinnStorm | so what happened? |
| 05:50.39 | m00n | right now my current problem is that networking wouldnt work, and kde was all nuffed up too. |
| 05:50.56 | uwjesq | m00n: Did it ever work? |
| 05:51.13 | QuinnStorm | as I said, what happened? what led to this state? |
| 05:51.39 | uwjesq | QuinnStorm: Sounds like guess the animal to me. |
| 05:51.56 | m00n | uwjesq: yes, for a few months. I broke it two days ago, but not /entirely/ sure how.. and so tonight i decided to boot up to a console using a livecd, fix packages and get it online |
| 05:52.17 | QuinnStorm | well can you tell us anything about what you were doing that broke it? |
| 05:52.46 | henry_ | hey hey hey what about all my problems i was totally here first |
| 05:52.55 | m00n | my problem now is that i cant safely halt, "shutdown: /run/initctl: no such file or directory" |
| 05:53.27 | QuinnStorm | henry_: I'd offer help if I knew anything about why that might be happening, I'm sorry |
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| 05:54.58 | m00n | QuinnStorm i dont really know, but it seemed to be doing fine until something broke when i rebooted. there were packages installed and uninstalled, etc |
| 05:55.06 | QuinnStorm | ah ok |
| 05:55.07 | m00n | i think its an init problem |
| 05:55.17 | QuinnStorm | that much is obvious at this point |
| 05:55.26 | m00n | yeah |
| 05:55.31 | QuinnStorm | are you using sysv or systemd? |
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| 05:55.59 | m00n | systemd |
| 05:56.05 | QuinnStorm | ok |
| 05:56.11 | QuinnStorm | hmm |
| 05:56.59 | QuinnStorm | is systemd actually running? /run/initctl on my sid is a link to /dev/initctl... |
| 05:57.23 | QuinnStorm | I'd imagine /dev is mounted or there would be bigger problems |
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| 05:57.46 | QuinnStorm | or has the link become damaged somehow? |
| 05:58.02 | SanchoPensa | so how do i import my thunderbird's profile into debian's icedove? |
| 05:58.08 | m00n | indeed. keep in mind though, that i booted with a livecd |
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| 05:58.50 | QuinnStorm | you are going to have to boot the system itself if you really want to see what's going on, I presume you booted a livecd and then chrooted into it? |
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| 05:59.06 | QuinnStorm | if so you can't shutdown from inside the chroot, and that explains why /dev/initctl is missing |
| 05:59.14 | m00n | ok |
| 05:59.35 | QuinnStorm | just log out of the chroot (^D) and such and shut down the livecd |
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| 05:59.51 | QuinnStorm | chroot isn't like starting a vm, you don't have to shut it down |
| 06:00.01 | m00n | mmhm i did that, i forgot it was a chroot >.> |
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| 06:00.08 | QuinnStorm | ok |
| 06:00.34 | QuinnStorm | so once you get the system itself booted (or failing to boot) we can start diagnosing it (if it has problems) |
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| 06:02.19 | m00n | actually it seemed to boot fine. perhaps what i did before i got on irc (eg fix some package issues, upgrade and dist-upgrade, and then remove some stuff) fixed it? |
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| 06:02.49 | QuinnStorm | probably |
| 06:02.57 | QuinnStorm | is it jessie or sid? |
| 06:03.13 | QuinnStorm | if so it could have just gone through a broken state package-wise |
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| 06:03.33 | m00n | nope |
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| 06:03.44 | QuinnStorm | hmm...stable is supposed to be stable... |
| 06:03.46 | QuinnStorm | oh well |
| 06:03.48 | QuinnStorm | things happen |
| 06:03.52 | m00n | its jessie |
| 06:03.53 | m00n | sorry |
| 06:03.56 | QuinnStorm | ah ok |
| 06:03.58 | QuinnStorm | then yeah |
| 06:04.01 | m00n | nope was to it being fixed |
| 06:04.09 | QuinnStorm | ok so what's broken? |
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| 06:05.13 | m00n | well, many kde programs just sit there, dont open a window (but the task panel at the bottom shows one, with a spinny on it) |
| 06:05.26 | m00n | then the window closes |
| 06:05.27 | QuinnStorm | ok so...open a terminal and try launching a kde program that way |
| 06:05.29 | m00n | "window" |
| 06:05.41 | QuinnStorm | assuming you can get anything to run |
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| 06:06.16 | QuinnStorm | also if you don't care about your kde config, you can try moving aside .kde and logging in again |
| 06:06.30 | m00n | first, two "qdbusconnection: session dbus connect[...]may misbehave" |
| 06:06.37 | QuinnStorm | that's normal >.< |
| 06:06.39 | m00n | then it sits |
| 06:06.42 | QuinnStorm | hmm |
| 06:06.43 | m00n | nothing |
| 06:07.05 | QuinnStorm | well like I said, try moving your .kde aside (don't delete it in case there's something important in there), it'll get kde started with a fresh config |
| 06:07.12 | QuinnStorm | if that doesn't work we'll have to dig deeper |
| 06:07.52 | QuinnStorm | which terminal worked btw? |
| 06:07.55 | QuinnStorm | I presume not konsole? |
| 06:08.27 | m00n | yes, it seems like non kde programs work fine |
| 06:08.43 | QuinnStorm | ok then, so yeah, try mv .kde .kde-bak |
| 06:09.32 | m00n | yup done |
| 06:10.21 | QuinnStorm | and then log out/back in |
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| 06:10.43 | m00n | ok that was rather interesting |
| 06:10.46 | QuinnStorm | (technically its best to log out, do that, and log back in) |
| 06:11.08 | m00n | "ctrl + alt + backspace" to kill xserver IMMEDIATELY crashed vbox |
| 06:11.50 | QuinnStorm | ...strange |
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| 06:12.50 | QuinnStorm | generally has dontzap on on her machines (nozap? can't remember) so would never have run into that...generally if I need X to die that badly that shortcut won't work |
| 06:12.50 | m00n | very |
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| 06:14.16 | m00n | moving .kde fixed it |
| 06:14.24 | QuinnStorm | ok |
| 06:14.51 | QuinnStorm | not really sure what could be wrong there...probably permissions on something in .kde, haven't run into that bug specifically though |
| 06:15.10 | QuinnStorm | its unlikely to pop back up though |
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| 06:16.25 | m00n | now my internet, which was JUST working in the vm, is dead |
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| 06:16.33 | QuinnStorm | >.> |
| 06:16.39 | QuinnStorm | network-manager? |
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| 06:18.51 | m00n | not installed |
| 06:19.13 | QuinnStorm | how are you setting up networking? |
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| 06:20.28 | m00n | it kinda used to just work, to be honest. because its a vm, the hardware never changes, nor does the network |
| 06:21.03 | QuinnStorm | so...try the obvious...check ifconfig, find the interface, run dhclient on it? |
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| 06:22.31 | m00n | mmhm doing it all |
| 06:24.13 | m00n | ^^ |
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| 06:26.13 | QuinnStorm | I assume it came up? |
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| 06:26.46 | m00n | yes |
| 06:26.58 | m00n | thanks very much, ive learned quite a bit |
| 06:27.39 | QuinnStorm | if so, edit /etc/network/interfaces, make sure there's an auto in there for your interface |
| 06:27.45 | QuinnStorm | you're quite welcome |
| 06:27.56 | m00n | mmhm did that already :) |
| 06:28.19 | QuinnStorm | cool |
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| 06:34.16 | towski_ | the bluetooth button on my keyboard doesn't work anymore |
| 06:34.31 | towski_ | maybe the new kernel somehow stopped detecting my bluetooth adapter? |
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| 06:34.55 | towski_ | lsmod shows bluetooth, but doesn't detect anything |
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| 06:48.30 | echo083 | towski_, do you have gnome-bluetooth ? |
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| 06:54.29 | cypherman | to |
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| 07:01.57 | m09 | I can't find information on java8 on the debian wiki. Anyone knows if there is work in progress to package the new openjdk? |
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| 07:23.10 | twanny796 | trying to do a partition on my 300GB hard disk and the first sector starts at 2048, with the result that my hard disk is seen as 33GB??? |
| 07:24.15 | Iridos | what's a factor 10 between friends... |
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| 07:28.15 | towski_ | well it doesn't seem like my kernel is detecting my bluetooth adapter |
| 07:28.46 | uwjesq | towski_: Module missing? |
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| 07:35.41 | towski_ | uwjesq: lsmod shows bluetooth, and I tried enabling btusb but no change |
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| 07:36.01 | towski_ | should have kept track of the old kernel mods I had when it worked |
| 07:36.38 | uwjesq | towski_: Yes, updates are always russian roulette. |
| 07:37.05 | uwjesq | towski_: I hope you'll have success in fixing this. I have to head out. See you arround. |
| 07:37.36 | towski_ | thanks |
| 07:38.21 | relaxed | towski_: did you uninstall the older kernel? |
| 07:39.08 | towski_ | hm yeah it probably went away when I did a dist-upgrade |
| 07:39.38 | relaxed | I doubt it |
| 07:40.00 | towski_ | oh duh right, yeah doesn't grub keep them around or something |
| 07:40.04 | rryoumaa | so zim formats text as outlines? |
| 07:40.17 | towski_ | I see this in /boot "Feb 1 16:51 vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64" |
| 07:40.29 | relaxed | towski_: dpkg -l "*linux-image*"|grep ^ii |
| 07:41.00 | towski_ | yeah there is a 3.2, but I'm not sure why I would have gone from 3.2 to 3.13 |
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| 07:41.28 | towski_ | anyways, is there an easy way to compare the two kernels? |
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| 07:42.45 | towski_ | guess I can try booting up ini t |
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| 07:43.20 | relaxed | you should be able to reboot the machine and select the older kernel in grub |
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| 07:43.56 | relaxed | maybe compare `lsmod` between the two |
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| 07:44.30 | towski_ | thanks |
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| 08:50.15 | factor | What iso's do I need to get kde installed? |
| 08:50.47 | factor | at least the core. |
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| 09:23.07 | kjs | i was going to do /srv/chroot |
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| 09:25.53 | JasonWoof | how do I get chromium to stop telling me to install flash? (without installing flash). |
| 09:26.00 | JasonWoof | I hate this nag bar: https://15104268797498972201.googlegroups.com/attach/8b10a14bd2882f2f/example.png?part=2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrGtl3CBOk4TFKwg-nBSuRBBB7L0umXKOYrhK29sWQZuYI7KUdttGN432QnrkAlY0eZ6Lx3akYFAydjLr6aspE6S-cSy_Zd2crjpTYs1ww2ajWMUU2g |
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| 09:26.36 | bazhang | doesnt chrome come with its own flash? |
| 09:27.19 | JasonWoof | chromium doesn't |
| 09:27.26 | JasonWoof | flash is proprietary |
| 09:27.33 | SynrGy | chrome is not chromium |
| 09:27.37 | SynrGy | nods |
| 09:27.42 | bazhang | indeed its not |
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| 09:28.04 | JasonWoof | I don't want chrome to nag me about any plugins ever |
| 09:28.19 | JasonWoof | but it's mostly flash that gets all up in my business |
| 09:28.28 | bazhang | well since chrome has it builtin, it wouldnt |
| 09:28.30 | SynrG | but yes, chrome has pepper flash |
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| 09:28.32 | SynrG | oh, fun |
| 09:28.34 | SynrG | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-2014 |
| 09:28.43 | SynrG | we have that to look forward to |
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| 09:29.18 | SynrG | wonders what debian's plans are wrt that |
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| 09:30.00 | bazhang | http://www.openfl.org/ |
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| 09:30.20 | relaxed | JasonWoof: adblock plus will block flash I believe |
| 09:30.27 | babilen | judd: i pepperflashplugin-nonfree --release=sid |
| 09:30.28 | judd | Package pepperflashplugin-nonfree (contrib/web, optional) in sid/i386: Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. Version: 1.3; Size: 9.6k; Installed: 18k; Homepage: http://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer |
| 09:30.33 | babilen | SynrG: ^^^ |
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| 09:30.36 | blue_sky | tab completion, "tar zxvf [letter] Tab" used to complete file name, works with ls, but not with tar, what have I broken? |
| 09:31.18 | SynrG | babilen: ah. neat |
| 09:31.37 | babilen | SynrG: Not sure why they state "the Pepper Flash plugin cannot be downloaded from the web or installed from the Ubuntu Software Centre" but that might be an Ubuntuism |
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| 09:31.45 | SynrG | babilen: likely |
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| 09:32.24 | SynrG | blue_sky: downgrade bash to the version before 4.3-2 |
| 09:32.29 | relaxed | blue_sky: broken bash-completion, I recommend uninstalling it. |
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| 09:32.48 | SynrG | relaxed: no |
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| 09:32.55 | blue_sky | oooh, really? That's not good. This is well known I take it? |
| 09:33.05 | babilen | Bug number? |
| 09:33.08 | SynrG | sec, let me find the bug#. i have it on hold as a result |
| 09:33.18 | JasonWoof | babilen: I had to read that bit a couple times. it's the flash plugin, not pepper support that they're talking about |
| 09:33.24 | SynrG | tab-completion is broken with filepaths with blanks in the |
| 09:33.25 | SynrG | them* |
| 09:34.01 | blue_sky | how did that get into 'stable'?! someone screwed up! |
| 09:34.05 | SynrG | no |
| 09:34.12 | SynrG | problem is different, then |
| 09:34.20 | SynrG | see relaxed's answer instead |
| 09:34.23 | SynrG | :) |
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| 09:35.02 | SynrG | actually, i wouldn't say "broken bash completion", but just "bash completion doesn't know the file extension" |
| 09:35.09 | blue_sky | can't uninstall bash? oh, yes, I can, I'm not lumbered with csh I have choice! |
| 09:35.16 | SynrG | that's not what he said |
| 09:35.20 | babilen | JasonWoof: I don't quite follow. The pepperflash plugin can clearly be downloaded (as part of chrome), extracted and used in Chromium. I am doing just that and the aforementioned package automates that. |
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| 09:35.29 | relaxed | blue_sky: no, uninstall bash-completion |
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| 09:35.43 | SynrG | bash-completion is so incredibly useful, however, that i wouldn't do that |
| 09:35.46 | relaxed | I uninstall it on every machine I touch. |
| 09:35.57 | blue_sky | relaxed: I didn't realise it was separable. |
| 09:36.00 | JasonWoof | blue_sky: wait, you're passing "x" to tar, which means extract... don't think extract takes more than one path |
| 09:36.00 | relaxed | It's not needed. |
| 09:36.07 | babilen | Why? I mean you can surely use zsh, but uninstalling bash-completion sounds like a horrible idea |
| 09:36.17 | SynrG | babilen: for the issue *i* was thinking about, see #741060 |
| 09:36.19 | blue_sky | relaxed: OK, thank you |
| 09:36.25 | relaxed | babilen: horrible how? |
| 09:36.34 | blue_sky | JasonWoof: tar zxvf is perfectly valid |
| 09:37.23 | babilen | relaxed: Well, you wouldn't have bash completion and have to type everything :) |
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| 09:38.03 | relaxed | babilen: I think you're confused on its purpose. |
| 09:38.16 | peterrooney | life without bash completion would be largely filled with the pain of RSI. |
| 09:38.17 | relaxed | tab completion will still work |
| 09:38.29 | JasonWoof | blue_sky: I'm saying I don't think it's valid to have _two_ arguments after the "zxvf" |
| 09:38.32 | babilen | s/everything/a lot more/ |
| 09:38.34 | SynrG | blue_sky: what is the exact command you typed? |
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| 09:39.30 | JasonWoof | babilen: I was confused. I thought there were two steps, one to get chromium to support the plugin api, and another to install flash. I don't think that's true anymore, don't mind my previous comment on this subject |
| 09:40.00 | blue_sky | SynrG: tar zxvf |
| 09:40.10 | blue_sky | SynrG: and then the first letter of the file, then tab |
| 09:40.23 | SynrG | blue_sky: and what happens? |
| 09:40.35 | blue_sky | SynrG: no completion |
| 09:40.40 | SynrG | blue_sky: and what happens with a second tab? |
| 09:40.44 | babilen | relaxed: Sure, but "git <TAB>" would no longer show applicable commands (and so on for a lot of other things) |
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| 09:41.16 | blue_sky | SynrG: nothing, however many presses, nothing |
| 09:41.28 | SynrG | blue_sky: and what happens with "tar zxvf <tab><tab>"? |
| 09:41.41 | SynrG | (i.e. without the first letter) |
| 09:41.43 | blue_sky | SynrG: no completion |
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| 09:41.54 | blue_sky | no nothing |
| 09:41.54 | JasonWoof | blue_sky: ahh, in your first post, you had a space after the letter, I think that's what threw me off |
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| 09:42.03 | SynrG | blue_sky: on a wheezy system, this works fine for me. |
| 09:42.20 | blue_sky | JasonWoof: no problem - I couldn't think of a better way to describe |
| 09:42.27 | SynrG | bash-completion 1:2.0-1 |
| 09:42.33 | SynrG | blue_sky: you *are* using wheezy? |
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| 09:42.54 | JasonWoof | blue_sky: sounds like your tab completion is a bit borked. this would be a good time to switch to zsh if you haven't already :) |
| 09:43.32 | blue_sky | SynrG: yes, I think orderering of the command line switches has an impact, I just did "tar <tab><tab?" and got suggestion for options, will experiment and get back to you |
| 09:43.50 | blue_sky | s/?/>/ |
| 09:43.53 | SynrG | hmm |
| 09:44.47 | finga | how can i create a folder with the current date as name in bash (geting the output of # date to # mkdir) |
| 09:44.50 | relaxed | I had the same issue on jessie. Removed bash-completion and everything went back to normal. |
| 09:45.00 | JasonWoof | it was probably firefox, but at somepoint I had a browser plugin that killed the "you're missing plugin x" nagbar. |
| 09:45.12 | blue_sky | tar x w<tab><tab> completes |
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| 09:45.47 | OpenTokix | finga: curdate=`date +%y-%m-%d`; mkdir $curdate |
| 09:45.59 | llutz | finga: mkdir $(date +'....format') |
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| 09:46.15 | relaxed | missing quotes |
| 09:46.36 | finga | ahh thx a lot OpenTokix, llutz |
| 09:46.57 | JasonWoof | finga: mkdir "$(date "+%Y-%m-%d")" |
| 09:47.17 | SynrG | blue_sky: are you putting a blank between the options and the first letter of the filename? |
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| 09:47.39 | SynrG | blue_sky: if not, bash-completion thinks the next letter is an option, so it gets confused |
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| 09:48.15 | blue_sky | SynrG: yes, I'm not that much of a n00b |
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| 09:48.37 | blue_sky | SynrG: thanks for your suggestions, but I've removed bash-completion and all is acting as I expect now. |
| 09:49.12 | blue_sky | ? no doubt it will trip me up at a later date though |
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| 09:49.52 | relaxed | blue_sky: I doubt you'll notice |
| 09:50.00 | SynrG | blue_sky: odd that i can't reproduce your results with the same version of bash-completion |
| 09:50.37 | blue_sky | SynrG: sorry, I can't compare notes now I've removed it. |
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| 09:51.51 | blue_sky | SynrG: one thing that I just noticed, it's not a .tar.gz/tgz it's a .tar.xz maybe it looked at my options and wouldn't match a file that 'z' couldn't 'unzip' |
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| 09:52.13 | SynrG | blue_sky: probably |
| 09:53.12 | SynrG | blue_sky: yes. if i am in a dir with i*.tar.gz and tar zxvf i<tab><tab>, then the only completions are directories |
| 09:53.20 | SynrG | er, zjvf, i meant |
| 09:53.40 | SynrG | so logically, the same sort of thing would happen with xz vs tgz |
| 09:54.02 | SynrG | so, nothing at all wrong with it. behaving exactly as expected :) |
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| 09:54.29 | SynrG | this is why providing complete output is so important :) (a directory listing would've been appropriate) |
| 09:54.31 | blue_sky | I've just re-installed, I confirm bash-completion is not at fault, it's my not spotting the file type. |
| 09:54.56 | SynrG | even the more experienced of us sometimes forget this :p |
| 09:55.23 | SynrG | (and i'm as much at fault, as i thought of this 5 minutes ago but failed to ask :P ) |
| 09:55.25 | blue_sky | SynrG: 16 years experience here. |
| 09:55.39 | SynrG | 19 here :/ |
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| 09:55.53 | blue_sky | senility |
| 09:55.54 | SynrG | hangs his head in shame |
| 09:55.56 | blue_sky | :) |
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| 09:56.52 | relaxed | hides |
| 09:56.58 | blue_sky | tar zxvf is in my muscle memory when I see a file ending .tar.<>z |
| 09:57.05 | SynrG | ahh |
| 09:57.33 | blue_sky | must admit, until this problem I'd never even heard of .xz |
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| 09:58.22 | SynrG | tar, why aren't you smart enough to determine the compression by examining the magic number so we can stop this "different letter for each compression type" foolishness? |
| 09:58.38 | blue_sky | SynrG: ++ |
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| 09:59.29 | kjs | If i have a chrooted version of deb, can i mount partitions (or access them somehow) that are on the main machine from INSIDE the chroot ? |
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| 10:00.31 | SynrG | kjs: bind mount |
| 10:00.45 | JasonWoof | SynrG: I use "unar" which figures that out |
| 10:00.47 | themill | blue_sky: you might like to look at "a" instead of "z" there |
| 10:01.23 | SynrG | kjs: more specifically, mount man page, read about --bind, and do that *outside* the chroot first. |
| 10:01.28 | blue_sky | themill: oooh, piece of candy |
| 10:01.51 | themill | blue_sky: if you're already retraining the muscles |
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| 10:01.56 | SynrG | kjs: your target should be a path inside the chroot. |
| 10:02.28 | kjs | SynrG: thanks |
| 10:02.30 | blue_sky | themill: not looked in the docs for years, just shows I should from time to time, thanks for metioning it, I'll make a note. |
| 10:02.37 | SynrG | kjs: pro tip. very useful for /dev :) |
| 10:02.44 | JasonWoof | unar also (by default) creates a directory to unpack into if the archive contains more than one top-level file/directory. I love not having to worry about (or check for) directory spams before extracting something |
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| 10:04.00 | JasonWoof | you can call bind from inside a chroot right? you just need the source (eg block device) and mount point to be within the chroot |
| 10:04.02 | relaxed | JasonWoof: rar doesn't maintain permissions, correct? Or are you saying it handles .tar.* too? |
| 10:04.18 | kjs | SynrG: ok, looking at it i should do that for dev proc and say home if i want it, but is there a way to make these mount perm ? |
| 10:04.27 | kjs | mounts* |
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| 10:04.45 | JasonWoof | relaxed: not unrar, unar (was called "the-unarchiver" or some such at first) |
| 10:04.52 | SynrG | kjs: i think bind mounts can be made in /etc/fstab just like any other mount |
| 10:04.52 | babilen | JasonWoof: I use aunpack from atool for that, not sure what the differences are though |
| 10:05.07 | relaxed | JasonWoof: ah |
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| 10:05.44 | JasonWoof | unar was the first free software to be able to unpack something I had |
| 10:05.54 | JasonWoof | I forget if it was stuffit or a recent version of rar files |
| 10:05.56 | SynrG | kjs: again, as per mount man page when discussing bind: |
| 10:05.57 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.57 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:06.30 | MrHeisenberg | hello, i have a problem upgrading openssh-client and openssh-server. if i want to do a upgrade i get an "the following packages have been kept back: openssh-client openssh-server" |
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| 10:06.54 | jelly | MrHeisenberg: which debian release are you using? |
| 10:06.56 | jelly | !bat |
| 10:06.56 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 10:07.19 | jelly | MrHeisenberg: ^^ show all of the information requested |
| 10:07.30 | MrHeisenberg | wheezy (7.4) |
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| 10:10.36 | theknight | hi there |
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| 10:11.04 | theknight | is there iceape in wheezy anymore?apt-cache search iceape does not return it |
| 10:11.23 | pl_ | Hi. Is there a way to list which installed packages come from the (e.g.) experimental suite? |
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| 10:13.36 | SynrG | theknight: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732314 |
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| 10:15.52 | themill | dpkg: tell pl_ about which repo |
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| 10:16.18 | SynrG | theknight: also https://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2819 if you didn't know where to look that up. |
| 10:16.45 | theknight | SynrG, thanks, is there any other internet suite for debian? |
| 10:17.07 | Brigo | ,v iceape |
| 10:17.09 | judd | Package: iceape on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.0.11-17; squeeze-backports: 2.7.12-1~bpo60+1 |
| 10:17.14 | SynrG | internet suite is an outmoded concept |
| 10:17.17 | SynrG | :p |
| 10:17.22 | Brigo | theknight, not, i was removed |
| 10:17.32 | SynrG | web browsers make good web browsers. email clients make good email clients ... |
| 10:17.45 | SynrG | bundling everything in one is a bad idea |
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| 10:18.08 | theknight | SynrG, but i'm quite tired having both iceweasel and icedove opened, i also see in htop that they often require a lot of resources from my laptop-. |
| 10:18.43 | SynrG | but to the degree that they use the same components, a lot of what top reports will be shared memory |
| 10:18.45 | theknight | i really liked opera concept, but i know it's proprietary, so sounds not good on debian... ;) |
| 10:18.59 | SynrG | bundling them together in a single executable doesn't necessarily save as much as you think |
| 10:19.07 | pl_ | themill, thanks |
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| 10:20.10 | SynrG | (if anything at all) |
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| 10:20.50 | SynrG | theknight: how much ram on the laptop? |
| 10:20.54 | SynrG | total, i mean |
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| 10:21.33 | theknight | SynrG, i've 4 GB they take 1 GB... |
| 10:21.42 | SynrG | theknight: on my netbook, which is limited to 2G, i have trimmed memory consumption in other areas to make it comfortable to run icedove and iceweasel together. |
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| 10:22.26 | Skaag | what's a good filesystem type for SSD? |
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| 10:23.22 | JaneSmith | is this the right place to ask about the future pid1? :) |
| 10:23.31 | SynrG | Skaag: ext4 |
| 10:23.55 | SynrG | Skaag: https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization |
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| 10:24.54 | SynrG | theknight: also, i have learned that having email 'always on' is an unwelcome distraction that lowers my productivity. if i'm really pressed for space within that 2G, i just exit icedove :p |
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| 10:26.03 | theknight | SynrG, this was also my starting point :D |
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| 10:27.53 | SynrG | theknight: i dumped gnome3 for lxde, run urxvt (tweaked to the max to make it pretty/functional :) and where resources are still tight, vnc-over-ssh elsewhere to a system with more RAM |
| 10:27.53 | JaneSmith | SynrG could you send me a link on the 'trimmed memory consumption' (noob-friendly version) |
| 10:28.03 | SynrG | not really |
| 10:28.12 | SynrG | it varies on a case-by-case basis |
| 10:28.51 | SynrG | do a self-assessment of your usage of software on your system. sort the things in use by their memory footprint. decide which areas are worth spending time reducing |
| 10:29.29 | SynrG | evaluate "lighter" packages ... compare figures before/after switching |
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| 10:29.48 | JaneSmith | in the output of free -m: 'used' contains the buffers/cache? |
| 10:29.54 | theknight | SynrG, i run i3wm..;) |
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| 10:30.30 | SynrG | JaneSmith: just make sure you're looking at the 2nd line: -/+ buffers/cache |
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| 10:30.58 | JaneSmith | Mem: 7829 1880 5949 326 11 779 |
| 10:30.58 | JaneSmith | -/+ buffers/cache: 1088 6740 |
| 10:31.28 | JaneSmith | I use 1880 + 1088? |
| 10:31.29 | SynrG | sure. so you have 1088M in use, actually, noce buffers/cache are subtracted. |
| 10:31.34 | SynrG | once* |
| 10:31.56 | SynrG | no. that is the figure *after* buffers/cache are subtracted (from the used column) or added (for the free column) |
| 10:32.02 | Skaag | thanks SynrG |
| 10:32.46 | SynrG | JaneSmith: if you want to cross-check by hand, on the first line, compute: used - buffers - cache |
| 10:33.01 | SynrG | JaneSmith: it should (more-or-less) match the -/+ buffers/cache 'used' column figure. |
| 10:33.24 | SynrG | actual figure may differ due to rounding |
| 10:33.41 | JaneSmith | thx, i never understood if it's + or - |
| 10:33.41 | dimmem | i have dell 64bit system i want to use for debian. can you provide me correct link for the debian iso? |
| 10:34.10 | aberlin | on an old laptop: the c-drom is opening randomly, i dont need it, can I just unload modules? I just want to switch of the energy... |
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| 10:34.43 | Brigo | !tell dimmem about install |
| 10:35.29 | Brigo | aberlin, yes, and then add it to a blacklist |
| 10:35.53 | Brigo | !tell aberlin about blacklist |
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| 10:37.53 | farciarz84 | hi do you know any way to save terminal tabs and sessions and reuse them after restart? |
| 10:38.42 | SynrG | farciarz84: gnome-session-properties |
| 10:38.43 | Brigo | farciarz84, not me, and if you learn it, please tell me :) |
| 10:39.01 | SynrG | Options > Automatically remember running applications when logging out |
| 10:39.39 | SynrG | (assuming you're on gnome, that is) |
| 10:39.43 | farciarz84 | yep |
| 10:39.47 | farciarz84 | thx |
| 10:39.54 | SynrG | np |
| 10:39.56 | farciarz84 | looks quasi ok |
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| 10:40.03 | SynrG | quasi? |
| 10:40.11 | farciarz84 | what if there is power interrupiotn |
| 10:40.23 | SynrG | you do have a UPS, right? |
| 10:40.29 | farciarz84 | nope |
| 10:40.32 | SynrG | get one |
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| 10:40.42 | farciarz84 | restart can be issued also by overheating |
| 10:40.43 | SynrG | run a daemon with it that does a proper shutdown |
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| 10:40.56 | SynrG | tough luck. |
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| 10:42.46 | oskie | hello, I have "* soft core 2147483647" and "* hard core 2147483647" in my /etc/security/limits.conf, but still "ulimit -c" says "0" after ssh login!? |
| 10:42.48 | farciarz84 | anyway looks okey |
| 10:42.51 | farciarz84 | SynrG: thx |
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| 10:43.52 | SynrG | farciarz84: the point of the UPS is not "make shutdowns not happen". it's " |
| 10:43.59 | SynrG | "make shutdowns happen properly" |
| 10:44.22 | SynrG | as long as the system is shutting down properly, the desktop session should be terminated properly and the session will be saved. |
| 10:44.26 | SynrG | does that address your concern? |
| 10:44.32 | SynrG | a UPS + daemon solves that. |
| 10:45.13 | SynrG | so does a proper power manager on a portable device (i.e. when battery reaches critical state and system automatically shuts down) |
| 10:46.00 | theknight | Thank you all, thanks SynrG , have a nice day, goodbye! |
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| 10:46.08 | SynrG | theknight: later |
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| 11:02.23 | steinex | dpkg: backports |
| 11:02.24 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 11:02.35 | steinex | dpkg: simple sid backport |
| 11:02.36 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 11:07.13 | Pascal_1 | hello |
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| 11:07.46 | Pascal_1 | is there a way to create pdf form compatible with adobre reader ? i mean as with evince the possibility to record form filled ? |
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| 11:08.53 | converge | I need a simple (easy to setup and maintain) smtp/imap server, is exim the best option ? for 50 clients |
| 11:08.56 | Pascal_1 | i create pdf form with libreoffice then export to pdf; it works fine with evince (i can save the filled form) but it doesnt works with adobe reader (i cant save filled form) |
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| 11:13.46 | umarzuki | converge,can't comment about exim since i lacked experiences with it |
| 11:14.11 | umarzuki | but why not postfix? plenty of documents on the net |
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| 11:19.16 | converge | umarzuki: isnt postfix hard to setup ? |
| 11:20.06 | umarzuki | at least for me, easier than exim |
| 11:22.13 | converge | umarzuki: nice, I'll try that |
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| 11:23.20 | umarzuki | converge, if you'r efeeling lazy, there's iredmail for debian |
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| 11:24.24 | converge | umarzuki: not really lazy, I need something easy to setup because I had never setup an email server before and I really need it now |
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| 12:02.37 | zoom | hello what does exactly cat > filepath ? |
| 12:05.11 | SynrG | zoom: it directs anything entered from standard input to filepath |
| 12:05.20 | SynrG | press ctrl-d to exit |
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| 12:06.25 | zoom | SynrG so i can also nano and edit right ? its the same just edit a file |
| 12:07.40 | SynrG | you could replace that with nano filepath, yes. |
| 12:07.50 | SynrG | it just creates a file |
| 12:08.13 | SynrG | completely replacing the contents of any existing file at filepath, though |
| 12:08.37 | SynrG | (compare with cat >> filepath, which appends to an existing file) |
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| 12:18.49 | zoom | guys i have installed everything with root , nginx, mysql , php , git is it correct ? |
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| 12:22.48 | musca | zoom: well, only root can install debian packages. |
| 12:23.32 | zoom | musca y but every folder owns root now don't it ? when i installed everything from root user |
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| 12:23.57 | vlt | !details | zoom |
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| 12:24.13 | zoom | ? dont work |
| 12:24.16 | SynrG | zoom: did you install it from debian packages? even if you're root, debian packages include maintainer scripts that change ownership as needed. |
| 12:24.36 | zoom | SynrG yes i did |
| 12:24.53 | SynrG | typically a 'postinst' script is run that will add any groups and chown / chmod anything that needs to be. |
| 12:25.13 | SynrG | users/groups, that is |
| 12:25.17 | zoom | SynrG becuase i asked on git channel if i should do git --bare folder to own root they said no |
| 12:26.22 | SynrG | zoom: it would be better if we know what you were trying to accomplish, and if you're following some guide, please share the URL with us |
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| 12:26.53 | SynrG | packages need to be installed as root, but checking out and managing git clones is something not typically done as root. |
| 12:26.54 | zoom | SynrG http://toroid.org/ams/git-website-howto and this is the video guide this guy makes the same thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULlKTflHqbs |
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| 12:27.55 | zoom | SynrG they create a folder on the server where they do git --bare init and people on #git said this folder must be created by me but don't should have root access |
| 12:27.55 | SynrG | " First, the work tree (/var/www/www.example.org above) must be writable by the user who runs the hook (or the user needs sudo access to run git checkout -f, or something similar)." |
| 12:28.05 | SynrG | exactly |
| 12:28.15 | elichai2 | hi |
| 12:28.27 | SynrG | so your /var/www/www.example.org must be writable by you, the ordinary user |
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| 12:28.50 | elichai2 | i try to figure out the keycode of my volume up key (Fn+PageUp) and xev give me this: http://pastebin.com/bhp2ikMh |
| 12:28.54 | elichai2 | any idea why? |
| 12:29.00 | SynrG | zoom: typically this is accomplished by adding yourself to an appropriate group and setting the group on the directory tree |
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| 12:29.08 | zoom | SynrG and the git repo should be chown by "git" ? if git creates automatically a user |
| 12:29.37 | SynrG | the git repo needs no special ownership |
| 12:30.22 | SynrG | the post-receive hook is making sure that when you publish, the files are copied to the web site |
| 12:30.33 | SynrG | all you need to do is make sure the web site is writable by you, and you're all set. |
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| 12:31.46 | zoom | SynrG yes the website is owned by root |
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| 12:32.04 | zoom | SynrG i don't have another user "as you" i mean i do everything from the root |
| 12:32.16 | SynrG | that's not best practice. |
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| 12:32.49 | zoom | SynrG you mean i should create a user for me and grant "sudo" so i can sudo things from my user? |
| 12:32.54 | SynrG | best practice is to avoid using root unless you really need it |
| 12:32.58 | SynrG | no |
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| 12:33.04 | SynrG | as i said, use unix groups here |
| 12:33.48 | SynrG | let's say you are username 'user' |
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| 12:33.52 | SynrG | adduser user www-data |
| 12:33.58 | SynrG | ^^ adds user to group 'www-data' |
| 12:33.58 | QuinnStorm | wishes more tools were written with the understanding of wanting g+w |
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| 12:34.23 | SynrG | if the web site is in group www-data, and grants read/write, it will all just work |
| 12:34.31 | elichai2 | any one? |
| 12:34.59 | QuinnStorm | looks at the paste... |
| 12:35.03 | zoom | SynrG aha and let www-data group own my website root which will hook to git |
| 12:35.12 | SynrG | elichai2: what were you expecting? |
| 12:35.25 | QuinnStorm | probably a keysym |
| 12:35.33 | QuinnStorm | so... |
| 12:35.42 | QuinnStorm | that is rather strange, to me at least |
| 12:35.54 | QuinnStorm | or at least a scancode |
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| 12:36.00 | QuinnStorm | that's like...no information |
| 12:36.14 | elichai2 | SynrG: i was expecting something like this: http://pastebin.com/6cSqdyNi (this is for Alt button) |
| 12:36.17 | SynrG | hmm, i see keycode 112, 117 |
| 12:36.43 | QuinnStorm | yeah that's normal xev output |
| 12:36.48 | QuinnStorm | ...maybe its not really a key? |
| 12:36.53 | QuinnStorm | maybe its sending acpi messages? |
| 12:36.59 | QuinnStorm | I've seen that now and then |
| 12:37.10 | SynrG | and keysyms Prior, Next, respectively |
| 12:37.17 | QuinnStorm | not usually on volume though |
| 12:37.22 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: yeah but i just can't get it's key code |
| 12:37.33 | QuinnStorm | if its sending acpi messages it won't have a key code |
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| 12:37.48 | elichai2 | SynrG: where do you see 1127 177? |
| 12:37.51 | QuinnStorm | the message gets routed through the dsdt and the acpi virtual machine |
| 12:37.52 | SynrG | oh, that's just for my pgup/pgdn |
| 12:37.54 | SynrG | sorry |
| 12:38.06 | SynrG | it's Fn-UpArrow, actually, on my keyboard |
| 12:38.10 | SynrG | to *get* pgup |
| 12:38.22 | SynrG | (netbook ... tiny keyboard) |
| 12:38.27 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: what do you mean? i want to do that when it's been clicked the volume will change |
| 12:38.30 | QuinnStorm | checks xev for her keys, just in case there's something odd |
| 12:38.33 | QuinnStorm | nods |
| 12:38.34 | QuinnStorm | I know |
| 12:38.44 | QuinnStorm | if its going through acpi its going to be a headache |
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| 12:39.14 | QuinnStorm | hmm I only get keyrelease events... |
| 12:39.21 | QuinnStorm | maybe something is grabbing it before xev gets to it? |
| 12:39.27 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: that's weird cause before i had debian i had ubuntu and i did got an key code |
| 12:39.28 | QuinnStorm | b/c I'm getting the same 0's message |
| 12:39.31 | QuinnStorm | ok then |
| 12:39.33 | QuinnStorm | that's not it |
| 12:39.38 | elichai2 | and now thats key code not working |
| 12:39.49 | QuinnStorm | like I was saying, an app is probably grabbing it before xev gets it |
| 12:39.55 | QuinnStorm | and not doing anything sane with it |
| 12:40.08 | elichai2 | how can i determine which app is it? |
| 12:40.14 | QuinnStorm | I use kde, kmix grabs mine...what DE do you use? |
| 12:40.49 | elichai2 | no DE i use WM fluxbox |
| 12:41.08 | QuinnStorm | ...very strange |
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| 12:41.34 | elichai2 | and i used fluxbox on my ubuntu too (when it does worke) |
| 12:41.36 | elichai2 | *worked |
| 12:41.46 | QuinnStorm | so its definitely producing a scancode when pressed...and there shouldn't be anything running in fluxbox that would grab it... |
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| 12:42.08 | QuinnStorm | (my messages aren't quite like yours, the first 0 is replaced with a number, so I'm unsure here) |
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| 12:42.23 | elichai2 | how can i know what grab it? which apps can even grab it? (i mean what comes before the xev?) |
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| 12:43.00 | QuinnStorm | well any app can register a grab for a keysym, I'm assuming something grabbed xf86vollumeup/down I'm not sure how to find out though |
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| 12:43.05 | QuinnStorm | or if the server supports such a query |
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| 12:43.39 | elichai2 | yeah it's the same thing for volume down but not for volume up |
| 12:43.44 | QuinnStorm | ...google is no help b/c the search terms are hard to put together |
| 12:43.47 | QuinnStorm | ...oh? |
| 12:43.55 | QuinnStorm | ...that's even weirder |
| 12:44.06 | QuinnStorm | ...its not hardware, right? |
| 12:44.28 | elichai2 | i don't think so |
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| 12:46.17 | SynrG | elichai2: before the xev there is the input subsystem |
| 12:46.30 | QuinnStorm | rebuilds that communication module. "anyhow, the next thing to look at is to see if the key does the right thing at a vt..." |
| 12:46.35 | SynrG | input-events devnr |
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| 12:47.17 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: what do you mean? |
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| 12:47.41 | QuinnStorm | well actually you can probably do it in x too since udev comes first |
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| 12:48.25 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: ? |
| 12:48.26 | QuinnStorm | http://gpl.back2roots.org/source/fritzbox/7270_5.05/GPL-busybox/udev-151/extras/keymap/README.keymap.txt has some information on getting information out of udev |
| 12:48.37 | QuinnStorm | I'm looking into it, I haven't had to do this in a while |
| 12:49.03 | Lope | I set a static IP on a VM in /etc/network/interfaces. and after doing a whole bunch of stuff that static IP remains now if I check the IP with ifconfig. however my /etc/network/interfaces file says DHCP now. any ideas? |
| 12:49.32 | SynrG | elichai2: input-events is in input-utils |
| 12:49.40 | QuinnStorm | ...go with SynrG , elichai2 |
| 12:49.41 | SynrG | elichai2: use lsinput to list input devices to get devnr |
| 12:49.53 | QuinnStorm | they seem to have more coherent information |
| 12:50.11 | elichai2 | lsinput: command not found |
| 12:50.12 | SynrG | elichai2: then, e.g. sudo input-events 0 |
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| 12:50.27 | SynrG | as i said, both utilities are in input-utils |
| 12:50.43 | SynrG | which, making the huge leap of logic, if you don't have, you need to install :) |
| 12:50.52 | elichai2 | ok, i'll install it right now :) |
| 12:51.24 | SynrG | this gives you a lower-level view of what's happening. Xorg gets all its input from the input subsystem. |
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| 12:52.14 | elichai2 | SynrG: http://pastebin.com/YwybNpMd |
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| 12:53.15 | QuinnStorm | you want device 0 |
| 12:53.18 | QuinnStorm | most likely |
| 12:53.26 | SynrG | elichai2: so yes, event0 is your keyboard |
| 12:53.41 | SynrG | elichai2: hence "sudo input-events 0" |
| 12:53.49 | elichai2 | SynrG: here: http://pastebin.com/wWRdX5Hg |
| 12:54.14 | QuinnStorm | ok that's even stranger...its obviously detecting it properly... |
| 12:54.17 | SynrG | so yes, your input subsystem happily produces the right event. yay |
| 12:54.54 | SynrG | or events plural, i should say (key up and down) |
| 12:55.08 | QuinnStorm | so we're back to...has something grabbed the event before xev gets it? (xev doesn't grab keys, it just listens for events that come to it normally) |
| 12:55.22 | SynrG | yeah |
| 12:55.29 | SynrG | you could startx -- xev |
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| 12:55.48 | zoom | i can create a new user and also assign a existing group to him ? |
| 12:55.50 | SynrG | (this is assuming gdm is shutdown and no desktop is open, login to a virtual console for this) |
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| 12:55.57 | QuinnStorm | make sure the thing you're using to configure the keys doesn't already have it bound |
| 12:55.59 | zoom | like adduser username:existinggroup will work ? |
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| 12:56.00 | QuinnStorm | that could be the problem |
| 12:56.02 | elichai2 | startx: command not found lol |
| 12:56.04 | SynrG | this would run Xorg with nothing but xev |
| 12:56.37 | SynrG | you need the xinit package for that. |
| 12:56.41 | elichai2 | so to go into tty and killall and then run startx --xev? |
| 12:56.43 | QuinnStorm | we already have the keysym |
| 12:56.57 | QuinnStorm | there's not necessarily a reason to go to those lengths |
| 12:56.59 | SynrG | no, read carefully |
| 12:56.59 | Lope | is it possible for debian to change the /etc/network/interfaces file by itself? |
| 12:57.03 | SynrG | 09:55 < SynrG> you could startx -- xev |
| 12:57.36 | elichai2 | im now installing xinit and then will run it |
| 12:57.45 | elichai2 | after ill kill all :) |
| 12:57.47 | SynrG | this says to startx, -- ends argument processing for startx. "xev" gets sent to xinit |
| 12:58.10 | elichai2 | wait, why not start xev right from tty? |
| 12:58.12 | SynrG | i forget if it needs the full path to the executable |
| 12:58.13 | QuinnStorm | (the spaces are important, its not an option --xev, its -- to end options) |
| 12:58.18 | QuinnStorm | and why not is its an X application |
| 12:58.19 | SynrG | elichai2: because it is an X application |
| 12:58.26 | SynrG | it needs an X server |
| 12:58.49 | SynrG | the idea here is "if no other applications, nor even a WM is running, does xev see the right thing?" |
| 12:58.52 | elichai2 | ohh right lol |
| 12:58.58 | elichai2 | so to run startx -- xev ? |
| 12:59.02 | SynrG | yes |
| 12:59.08 | elichai2 | (i will need to disconnect for this) |
| 12:59.14 | SynrG | or startx -- /usr/bin/xev |
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| 12:59.24 | QuinnStorm | you might need to move the mouse over the window to get it to pick up events, depending |
| 12:59.29 | SynrG | as i said, i don't remember if it requires the full path to the executable |
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| 12:59.56 | SynrG | when all done, ctrl-alt-f1 back to the vc and ^C the process |
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| 13:01.04 | SynrG | as for "who intercepted this event?" i don't know how to do that systematically :p |
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| 13:02.56 | elichai2 | ok, i will be right back |
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| 13:03.51 | elichai2 | so you killall just the WM or the DM too? |
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| 13:04.29 | SynrG | killall? no, i wouldn't do it that way |
| 13:04.33 | QuinnStorm | shooting X in the head usually takes it all down |
| 13:04.35 | SynrG | just logout of X |
| 13:04.40 | SynrG | then: /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop |
| 13:04.46 | QuinnStorm | but yeah that's the right way |
| 13:04.53 | elichai2 | how exactly? (i use lightdm) |
| 13:04.59 | SynrG | /etc/init.d/lightdm stop |
| 13:05.07 | SynrG | again ... no huge leaps of logic here :) |
| 13:05.23 | elichai2 | ok so bye then |
| 13:06.04 | aaa | How do i put something in the background when combining two commands at the same line like echo "hi" &; echo "bye", gives me syntax error near unexpected token ';' :( |
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| 13:06.24 | aaa | i cant use && eaither? |
| 13:06.29 | QuinnStorm | you just drop the ; |
| 13:06.34 | QuinnStorm | echo hi & echo bye, I think |
| 13:06.43 | QuinnStorm | yeah |
| 13:06.52 | aaa | oh lol |
| 13:06.53 | aaa | thanks |
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| 13:08.20 | doebi | trying to compile and run juno.c but i keep getting a segault on debian. on knoppix it works just fine |
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| 13:10.19 | elichai2 | it didn't worked :( |
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| 13:10.46 | elichai2 | i've got "Connection to X server lost" |
| 13:10.52 | SynrG | moment |
| 13:11.44 | SynrG | my mistake. |
| 13:11.45 | SynrG | just: |
| 13:11.48 | SynrG | startx xev |
| 13:12.00 | SynrG | you would only need the double-dash to demarcate options to xinit |
| 13:12.00 | SynrG | e.g. |
| 13:12.07 | SynrG | startx xev -- :2 |
| 13:12.19 | SynrG | (starts a new X server even while :1 is active) |
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| 13:12.46 | SynrG | i should really test these things first, :) |
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| 13:13.13 | elichai2 | lol ok so brb |
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| 13:21.16 | elichai2 | it did worked: http://pastebin.com/RiZDr5jB |
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| 13:21.57 | elichai2 | now how i know what is the problem? |
| 13:22.12 | QuinnStorm | ok...so I suspect the culrprit is a partially configured setting in whatever you are using to map the key to an action |
| 13:23.08 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: you mean it's fluxbox fault? |
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| 13:24.26 | QuinnStorm | well its possible, check your config to see if it already mentions the keysym in question |
| 13:24.29 | QuinnStorm | or keycode or whatever |
| 13:25.47 | lorenzo | hi! I need help with a wifi adapter |
| 13:25.55 | lorenzo | it's an onboard AR9565 |
| 13:26.00 | lorenzo | I've installed firmware-atheros but no luck |
| 13:26.34 | lorenzo | dmesg tells me usbcore: registered new interface driver ath3k |
| 13:27.12 | QuinnStorm | so does no interface show up? (and does anyone have domain-specific knowledge here? never dealt with this card) |
| 13:27.40 | lorenzo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.57 | QuinnStorm | ok...hmm... |
| 13:28.19 | elichai2 | QuinnStorm: thats weird.... |
| 13:28.32 | QuinnStorm | have you looked to see if there's anything specific to the manufacturer/device id from lsusb, lorenzo ? |
| 13:28.38 | elichai2 | it was always mentioned in the keys config (key number 122 and 123) |
| 13:28.44 | QuinnStorm | elichai2: interesting |
| 13:28.48 | elichai2 | i think its work now |
| 13:28.51 | lorenzo | it just sayd 0cf3:3004 Atheros Communications, Inc. |
| 13:28.53 | lorenzo | also appears under lspci |
| 13:29.04 | lorenzo | as AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter |
| 13:29.08 | QuinnStorm | hmm |
| 13:29.12 | elichai2 | i mean, xev still not recognizing it but fluxbox act as what i told him to act |
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| 13:29.29 | elichai2 | it's run the command that i configured |
| 13:29.31 | QuinnStorm | that's quite strange to see it in both places...wish there was someone around who knew atheros cards better |
| 13:29.37 | QuinnStorm | googles that card though |
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| 13:30.14 | lorenzo | looks like I need a kernel backport :( |
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| 13:30.23 | gcbirzan | Is it possible to tell ifupdown to run dhclient on all network interfaces? |
| 13:30.31 | QuinnStorm | well that's not a big deal, just add -backports to your sources |
| 13:30.32 | gcbirzan | or, well, to have a default for all interfaces |
| 13:30.33 | QuinnStorm | right? |
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| 13:32.03 | MrAlexandro | setfacl -m u:tester:rw filename |
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| 13:32.06 | elichai2 | backports have now a kernel that one of it's dependecies is uninstallable |
| 13:32.26 | MrAlexandro | but then i want to modify. do i really have to -x u:tester: filename Then readd |
| 13:32.31 | MrAlexandro | or is there i way to directly modify |
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| 13:32.48 | QuinnStorm | -f install doesn't work? (or just a general upgrade/dist-upgrade?) (don't do any of those blind of course, they may remove things you don't want removed) |
| 13:33.02 | lorenzo | elichai2, I've issued apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
| 13:33.05 | lorenzo | and it's installing |
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| 13:35.03 | lorenzo | perfect, wifi works with backport kernel :) |
| 13:35.46 | QuinnStorm | awesome |
| 13:35.53 | elichai2 | lorenzo: i'm talking about linux-image-686-pae |
| 13:35.58 | lorenzo | ah |
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| 13:36.48 | elichai2 | lorenzo: http://pastebin.com/Ry71ee2S |
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| 13:37.10 | lorenzo | ah :/ no idea about that |
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| 13:38.47 | elichai2 | lorenzo: look: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-686-pae |
| 13:38.53 | themill | it's not built yet |
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| 13:40.50 | elichai2 | themill: yep, it's like that for about a week |
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| 13:41.13 | themill | 2 days, perhaps. |
| 13:41.28 | elichai2 | you sure? lol i remember it's more than that |
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| 13:42.14 | Burps | Hi : I need to add a repository in sources.list but I would like to make sure that only ONE specific package will be taken from this repo : what's the correct way ? pinning ? if yes, please elaborate, as I didn't understand how to... |
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| 13:46.02 | babous | hello |
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| 13:47.22 | babous | does someone use wmfs ? |
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| 13:48.15 | petn-randall | !someone |
| 13:48.16 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 13:48.43 | QuinnStorm | ...that one's new, I like it |
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| 13:49.11 | babous | yes i like it to |
| 13:49.33 | petn-randall | Burps: In general we don't encourage to add 3rd party repositories, unless there is no other way. You can use pinning to do that, see 'man apt_preferences' for details on how to do that. |
| 13:50.25 | SynrG | Burps: if we knew which one package, we might be able to advise better. |
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| 13:51.33 | Burps | http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/DebianPackages --> hpacucli, for RAID management |
| 13:52.18 | Burps | It's juste that I want to make sure that, for example, this repo won't replace may bash, or sshd, or... |
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| 13:52.55 | OpenTokix | Burps: they only have the packages listed, for raidutils |
| 13:54.24 | Burps | well, yes, today, but whatif.... (paranoïa is my best friend...) |
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| 13:55.32 | SynrG | Burps: ugggh. and you don't want to use the recommended mdraid instead because ... ? |
| 13:55.50 | SynrG | mdadm |
| 13:55.53 | SynrG | !md |
| 13:55.53 | dpkg | "Multidisk Device" (MD) is commonly used to describe the software <RAID> facilities available in the Linux kernel. To establish a software RAID array at Debian installation time, see section 6.3.3.4 of the <install guide>. See also <mdadm>. http://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ |
| 13:55.56 | Burps | becasue I didi'nt know it could do the job... I'll check that :) |
| 13:55.56 | petn-randall | Burps: Then again, if they'd want to pwn your machine, they'd just do it as root in the post-install script, so you'd only catch "accidental" packages, not malicious ones. |
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| 13:56.42 | SynrG | Burps: do you keep replacement hardware controller spares on hand? |
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| 13:56.52 | Burps | SynrG: mdadm is for softraid, I guess, I have a hardware RAID, I'm not sure it's the same thing... |
| 13:57.08 | SynrG | just because you have hardware RAID doesn't mean it's a good idea to use it |
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| 13:57.35 | Burps | well, in my case, believe me, it's the right way |
| 13:57.52 | petn-randall | only uses mdraid, no hardware RAID for the reasons above. |
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| 13:57.53 | SynrG | read the carefully laid out arguments in the second link ... |
| 13:58.26 | SynrG | you can *assert* it's right for you, and i have to take it at face value ("don't convince me! i really do want to shoot myself in the foot!") ... |
| 13:58.31 | petn-randall | Burps: You forgot to add ™ to "it's the right way™" :) |
| 13:58.54 | SynrG | Burps: or you could read the material with an open mind and tell me what you think :) |
| 13:59.04 | Burps | Actually, it's not my choice : this is a dedicated server from an online provider |
| 13:59.26 | Burps | and the provider does have some spare (I just made change of component an houra ago) |
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| 14:01.22 | Burps | SynrG: OK, I agree with most of the arguments, just, in my case, it's this way, I can't change anything |
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| 14:02.39 | SynrG | Burps: oh. "higher ups have decreed it, and i have no bal^wpower to change that"? |
| 14:02.41 | xzutzz | Hi all. I just got a raspberry pi and am trying to make my wireless usb adapter work with it (D-LINK DWA-140). ifconfig and iwconfig do not list any wireless interface. lsusb lists the device as "Bus 001 Device 008: ID 2001:3c20 D-Link Corp." - As far as I can understand from this page: https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb i need to do apt-get install firmware-ralink, and it should work, but it is already the newest version. Any suggestio |
| 14:02.44 | SynrG | ;) |
| 14:03.07 | SynrG | Burps: if so, i am sad for you. good luck. |
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| 14:03.19 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 14:03.19 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 14:03.50 | SynrG | consider working for someone who respects technical advice that comes from the collective experience of those actually working on the systems "from the trenches" |
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| 14:04.28 | Burps | SynrG: I understand your point, but, in this situation, I can't do anything |
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| 14:04.46 | SynrG | yup. sincerely ... sad |
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| 14:04.57 | SynrG | Burps: you can, as said before, use apt pinning |
| 14:05.10 | Burps | the thing is : wa had some trouble while it was not monitored, now I'm lloking for monitoring it si that if that happens again, I know before |
| 14:05.13 | SynrG | if you have problems with those third-party packages, you'll have to see the vendor for help |
| 14:05.15 | jelly | Burps: or just download it from HP's web and install with dpkg |
| 14:05.49 | jelly | Burps: better: download it once, put it in own repo and let the clients use your own repo |
| 14:06.10 | Burps | hmm, right, maybe the "best" way for me |
| 14:06.14 | jelly | also, they renamed it to hpssacli |
| 14:06.26 | jelly | because Reasons! |
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| 14:07.43 | SynrG | Burps: longer term, work on a plan to migrate off hardware raid to software raid. |
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| 14:08.09 | SynrG | case building can take time (and unfortunately, sometimes a catastrophe :p) |
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| 14:08.26 | jelly | SynrG: that's reason to move _to_ hw raid, not from |
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| 14:08.28 | josef_ | Hello where is the cd disk in / ? |
| 14:08.45 | josef_ | ls /media is nothing |
| 14:09.03 | Brigo | josef_, is it already mounted? |
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| 14:09.23 | SynrG | jelly: hmm? as in "the raid controller bit the dust and we spend 3 days down because we didn't have a spare" kind of catastrophe? |
| 14:09.43 | jelly | SynrG: why would you not have spares? |
| 14:09.49 | SynrG | that's why i asked |
| 14:09.50 | SynrG | he didn't answer |
| 14:10.15 | josef_ | I think it is it apears in the desktop |
| 14:10.46 | Brigo | josef_, then try with mount comman in the terminal |
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| 14:10.59 | Brigo | josef_, may be in /cdrom or /dvd |
| 14:11.48 | josef_ | there is no /cdrom nor /dvd Im on debian 7.4 |
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| 14:12.49 | crafty1_ | josef_: If the system auto mounted it I think cdrom is under media. It's not in root dir i don't think |
| 14:12.49 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:13.13 | crafty1_ | Not on my Debian system atm or id check |
| 14:13.33 | Brigo | crafty1_, yes, but he said there is nothing in /media |
| 14:14.39 | drwahl_ | josef_: check /media/cdrom |
| 14:14.42 | drwahl_ | or /media/dvd |
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| 14:15.37 | josef_ | ther is nothing in /media not as user nor as su .... |
| 14:15.44 | crafty1_ | Try mounting it manually |
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| 14:16.37 | crafty1_ | or type df to see where it is mounted |
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| 14:19.32 | SynrG | something needs to do that automounting. ime that "something" is coordinated between the file manager and a udisks backend |
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| 14:19.50 | SynrG | when i dumped pcmanfm from my lxde install, i had to use udisks-glue |
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| 14:22.43 | crafty1_ | josef_: any luck? |
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| 14:23.29 | neo1691 | Hey guys! I want to know what exactly is this openstack thing. Any resource like exactly what is it? I am installing this web app called Tracks (http://getontracks.org) and the installing file say that I can also run this on a lacal machine using bitnami (http://bitnami.com/stack/tracks) which is some kind of a cloud. I used to run web apps like moodle and wordpress on localhost before, this is something new |
| 14:23.31 | neo1691 | to me. |
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| 14:23.42 | neo1691 | Can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 14:24.08 | neo1691 | Or can I use simple LAMP setup on debian, or is this stack something really awesome! |
| 14:25.03 | josef_ | crafty yes df says it is in /run/media .... why not /media? |
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| 14:25.29 | DexterF | hi |
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| 14:25.53 | drwahl_ | neo1691: you'd be better off asking in #openstack. but a quick blurb: openstack is a management interface for managing VMs |
| 14:26.02 | bas70 | Hello guys. I cant install both postfix and ssmtp, if you install one it will remove the other. Is there a way to force an installation of both? |
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| 14:26.07 | DexterF | ntpdate and ntpdate-debian both say "no server usable for sync found", tried some stratum 1 servers and pool.ntp.org. what could be the problem? |
| 14:26.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell DexterF about ntpdate |
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| 14:27.23 | babilen | dpkg: "ntpd -qg" should be fine |
| 14:27.24 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, babilen |
| 14:27.44 | babilen | DexterF: "ntpd -gq" should be what you are looking for. |
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| 14:29.50 | Zzeiss | I'm having trouble installing fortran on Debian Wheezy. For "apt-get install gfortran" I get "the following packages have unmet dependencies...." |
| 14:30.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell Zzeiss -about bat |
| 14:31.02 | bas70 | I can't install both postfix and ssmtp, if you install one it will remove the other. Is there a way to force an installation of both? |
| 14:31.19 | babilen | bas70: Doing that wouldn't make sense |
| 14:31.42 | bas70 | babilen: why not? |
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| 14:32.21 | babilen | bas70: Because they would both provide the mail-transport-agent and would, in particular, have to bind to the same ports and whatnot. What are you trying to do? |
| 14:32.33 | DexterF | babilen: thanks, but I can't help but notice that the obsolete and unmaintained ntpdate is still packaged in the distro's stable release... |
| 14:32.55 | babilen | DexterF: Yes, my advice doesn't change though ;) |
| 14:33.09 | bas70 | recreate a server i've used for years :) postfix for receiving mails and ssmtp for sending them |
| 14:33.14 | DexterF | babilen: which I will boldly follow then |
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| 14:33.42 | bas70 | babilen: but i should use postfix for sending too? |
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| 14:34.55 | babilen | bas70: That would be sensible, yes |
| 14:34.56 | DexterF | babilen: doesn't ntpd usually take ages (=minutes) before even providing proper time to clients? that is, even localhost? |
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| 14:35.15 | bas70 | babilen: i'll look into it, thanks |
| 14:35.37 | DexterF | I need proper time as soon as possible after boot, I kicked ntp in favor of ntpdate at first for exactly that reason |
| 14:35.38 | babilen | DexterF: Yes, that is why you quite explicitly use the "-g" option |
| 14:35.41 | jelly | DexterF: you can configure it to do a step at start; whether your apps can survive that is up to you |
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| 14:36.42 | jhutchins | DexterF: ... which is the default in the ntp init script. |
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| 14:37.05 | DexterF | ok, new try. maybe stratum was too high |
| 14:37.21 | neo1691 | drwahl_: Okay thanks! |
| 14:37.29 | jhutchins | DexterF: No. |
| 14:38.07 | DexterF | ? |
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| 14:38.45 | crafty1_ | josef_: whoops sorry. Are you running KDE? Sometime it loads it there |
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| 14:48.15 | DexterF | babilen, jelly, jhutchins uninstalled ntpdate, installed ntp, set a range of ntp server in /etc/ntp.conf, rebooted, still says 17th march and something like current time -2 hours |
| 14:48.17 | elichai2 | hi |
| 14:48.31 | DexterF | even if the timezone was wrong should have at least proper date |
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| 14:48.50 | elichai2 | i want to autorun a command at boot as root(without reentering the password) |
| 14:49.50 | DexterF | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.03 | jelly | DexterF: and /etc/default/ntp contains -g in NTPD_OPTS? |
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| 14:50.36 | elichai2 | DexterF: what do you mean? my problem is i have no sound until i run "sudo alsactl init", but i need to run it every reboot |
| 14:50.58 | elichai2 | so i thought of running this command every time my laptop boot |
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| 14:51.31 | pupil | hello good evening |
| 14:52.12 | zetheroo1 | trying to enable a script with update-rc.d and am getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7120151/ |
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| 14:52.32 | elichai2 | so? |
| 14:52.36 | zetheroo1 | this is Debian Wheezy and the script is in /etc/init.d/ |
| 14:53.18 | DexterF | elichai2: sounds like your alsa setup is a tad weird. well, I meant: as root crontab -e , then add a line @reboot alsactl init , save it. but that's hackish, I'd rather check what alsa does there or not |
| 14:53.21 | zetheroo1 | and this is the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7120177/ |
| 14:53.31 | zetheroo1 | not sure if I am doing this right ... |
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| 14:55.35 | elichai2 | DexterF: ok, so how i check what the problem with alsa? |
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| 14:56.26 | DexterF | elichai2: sorry, beats me. alsa = angst |
| 14:56.40 | crafty1_ | elichai2: you might want to make sure the device isnt muted. Alsa is generally started at boot, maybe it wasnt added |
| 14:56.51 | DexterF | they have a channel here, though. #alsa-project? #alsa? |
| 14:56.58 | elichai2 | #alsa |
| 14:57.03 | elichai2 | but they not answering |
| 14:57.19 | DexterF | well - just as I thought - ntp does the job but not right after boot. dang. |
| 14:57.37 | DexterF | elichai2: you need patience there. mailing list might be the better approach. |
| 14:58.22 | zetheroo1 | can someone help me .. I am trying to get a command to execute on boot ... |
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| 14:59.02 | babilen | Zzeiss: Did you actually paste something as instructed by the bot? |
| 14:59.12 | zetheroo1 | this is the script I made ... but I am not sure if it's done correctly, and I am not sure how to get it to execute on startup |
| 14:59.16 | zetheroo1 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7120177/ |
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| 15:00.24 | elichai2 | sorry for disconnecting :( |
| 15:00.42 | crafty1_ | zetheroo1: you need to put the script in /etc/init.d |
| 15:00.47 | crafty1_ | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-run-a-command-when-boots-up.html |
| 15:00.53 | elichai2 | the last thing i said was to crafty1_ so if you answered i would like you'll repost it :) |
| 15:00.57 | zetheroo1 | crafty1_: it's already there |
| 15:01.24 | elichai2 | crafty1_: DexterF already said how to do this, the question now is how to fix alsa |
| 15:01.32 | crafty1_ | zetheroo1: make sure it has the correct permissions too |
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| 15:02.00 | elichai2 | opsss you talked to zetheroo1 lol |
| 15:02.36 | crafty1_ | elichai2: Oh I was going to say when you reboot check the verbose output if alsa is giving any errors |
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| 15:03.10 | Brody | I have a file /etc/wordpress/config-net.php that I want to change to config-localhost.php I wrote in the CLI mv /etc/wordpress/config-net.php config-localhost.php and after I did this, the file has disappeared. Also, alt+f7 became a black screen with a flashing cursor. The desktop got moved to alt+f8. Ive typed find /etc -iname config-net.php into the CLIbut it didnt return any information. I cant log into gnome using root either. I c |
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| 15:04.13 | crafty1_ | elichai2: I responded but you keep disconnecting I just said check output on boot |
| 15:04.50 | Brody | *I can log in to ctrl+alt_f1 as root though. Have I messed anything important up? |
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| 15:06.38 | babilen | bas70: Oh yeah :) |
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| 15:09.52 | elichai2 | i'm sorry :( i don't know whats happenning here |
| 15:10.08 | crafty1_ | Check to see if you have a device muted elichai2 |
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| 15:10.24 | elichai2 | it's not muted cause i hear music right now |
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| 15:11.01 | Frod | hello all |
| 15:11.05 | Frod | good morning |
| 15:11.22 | Frod | i used to work with red hat or centos |
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| 15:11.37 | SynrG | elichai2: "right now" wasn't the issue, but "right after boot" is. |
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| 15:11.41 | Frod | now i am really happy with debian |
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| 15:11.53 | SynrG | elichai2: the question is: right after boot, is some channel muted? |
| 15:11.55 | elichai2 | SynrG: ok, so how can i check it? |
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| 15:12.06 | elichai2 | what i need to run to see if it's muted? |
| 15:12.12 | Frod | i want to know if there is a similar way to auto update packages for debian |
| 15:12.15 | SynrG | elichai2: pastebin of the output of 'amixer' right after boot |
| 15:12.19 | Frod | i used to use http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~gerald/ftp/autoupdate/general.html |
| 15:12.21 | elichai2 | with amixer? |
| 15:12.23 | SynrG | yes |
| 15:12.27 | elichai2 | to see if its on or off? |
| 15:12.33 | elichai2 | ok, i will reboot my system |
| 15:12.40 | Frod | is there a similar solution for debian |
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| 15:12.54 | zetheroo1 | getting warning messages ... : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7120262/ |
| 15:13.02 | zetheroo1 | are these ignorable ... ? |
| 15:13.05 | elichai2 | i will first remove it from crontab -e |
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| 15:17.30 | DexterF | ok, ntp issue fixed... ntpdate installed alongside, so it gives it the first fix when eth0 comes up then ntpd has time to find its comfy place |
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| 15:17.40 | DexterF | odd but works |
| 15:17.57 | DexterF | obsolete my buttocks |
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| 15:18.30 | petn-randall | zetheroo1: I'm guessing you're missing LSB headers in the script. It also seems that another script is providing "sshd". |
| 15:18.40 | QuinnStorm | ...isn't that the usual way to ntp? or have I been out of it for that long? |
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| 15:19.36 | DexterF | QuinnStorm: dpkg likes to tell you otherwise. "ntp(d) yay, ntpdate nooo!" |
| 15:19.46 | QuinnStorm | I see |
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| 15:19.56 | QuinnStorm | I wonder what ntp.org says |
| 15:20.36 | petn-randall | DexterF: If your time if off by more than 128 ms, it is stepped by ntpd anyway, so there's no benefit of running ntpdate beforehand. |
| 15:20.36 | elichai2 | idk somehow i can't reproduce the problem :( |
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| 15:20.50 | xparanoik | uses all of that for just facebook and twitter |
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| 15:21.32 | buckfast | Hello |
| 15:21.42 | buckfast | I deleted my opensuse partition but now I can't boot to debian |
| 15:21.49 | buckfast | grub says "no such partition" |
| 15:22.06 | QuinnStorm | grub must have been installed to the opensuse partition |
| 15:22.14 | buckfast | I thought I had the grub installed on the debian partition |
| 15:22.48 | QuinnStorm | ...does it get all the way to a menu? or does it fail at 1.5 or whatever? |
| 15:23.08 | buckfast | it goes straight to grub rescue |
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| 15:23.47 | QuinnStorm | grub rescue? >.> things have changed since I looked at grub errors last |
| 15:23.57 | SynrG | DexterF: my understanding is that 'large' clock skew would be gradually brought back into sync by ntp by default. how long it takes may be a function of how large the skew is ... |
| 15:24.20 | SynrG | i think the idea is that large time adjustments on a running system are bad because it confuses the hell out of certain applications |
| 15:24.42 | QuinnStorm | yeah the idea is to run ntpdate at boot |
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| 15:24.45 | QuinnStorm | before they get up |
| 15:24.46 | buckfast | QuinnStorm, what's the right thing to do here? |
| 15:24.48 | SynrG | so maybe 'obsolete' was overstating it ... |
| 15:24.50 | QuinnStorm | or after some kind of mess |
| 15:24.59 | QuinnStorm | so the system starts in a sane state |
| 15:25.00 | SynrG | ntp should, by itself, handle the "normal" case |
| 15:25.14 | SynrG | so that an initial ntpdate sync is not needed |
| 15:25.17 | QuinnStorm | one can never tell what a system will be like on a cold boot |
| 15:25.21 | DexterF | SynrG: which is exactly why I would like the clock to be synced as fast as possible at boot time. but ntp takes a while until it finally decides it likes where it is and starte serving the time |
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| 15:25.28 | QuinnStorm | a slow drift back is a problem |
| 15:25.28 | SynrG | yup |
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| 15:25.46 | QuinnStorm | a pre-service-start ntpdate however gets it into a sane state to start with |
| 15:25.47 | crafty1_ | buckfast: I would reinstall GRUB. |
| 15:25.48 | QuinnStorm | with l ittle skew |
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| 15:27.12 | buckfast | crafty1, how should I do it? I can't boot into debian |
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| 15:27.44 | Brody | oh my, now alt+f8 has become a black screen with flashing cursor too! and the desktop has been moved up again to f9 |
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| 15:28.15 | crafty1_ | buckfast: When I have a serious problem with any OS I use the Gentoo Live CD as a recovery disc. By doing that you have a rescue shell you can boot into |
| 15:28.30 | crafty1_ | From there I would re-install GRUB |
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| 15:29.28 | zetheroo1 | petn-randall: well I rebooted and the web service is starting on boot - but now for some reason the boot does not complete ... so I cannot login to the machine :P |
| 15:29.29 | buckfast | crafty1, can I use the debian netinstall cd? |
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| 15:30.26 | crafty1_ | buckfast: You might be able to |
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| 15:32.02 | zetheroo1 | how do I get Debian to boot to the login prompt? ... it never reaches it anymore since I added a script to /etc/init.d/ |
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| 15:33.48 | abrotman | and what does that script do? |
| 15:33.55 | abrotman | probably disable that script, fix it |
| 15:33.57 | zetheroo1 | starts a web service |
| 15:34.13 | zetheroo1 | how do I disable it? ... I cannot get to login prompt |
| 15:34.17 | dondelelcaro | zetheroo1: most likely your script never relinguishes control by forking |
| 15:34.31 | dondelelcaro | zetheroo1: ^C or similar at boot will probably stop it |
| 15:34.52 | jelly | zetheroo1: use the recovery/rescue boot menu option |
| 15:34.57 | dondelelcaro | zetheroo1: alternatively, you can ctrl-alt-del or magig-sysrq, and boot with single or similar. |
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| 15:36.12 | CollinAnderson | anyone know why apache httpd defaults to LANG=C instead of UTF8? |
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| 15:37.19 | zetheroo1 | jelly: in recovery mode it also loads the script |
| 15:38.06 | jelly | zetheroo1: boot a livecd/liveusb, then |
| 15:38.16 | dondelelcaro | zetheroo1: or boot with init=/bin/bash |
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| 15:39.17 | zetheroo1 | dondelelcaro: from Grub menu? |
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| 15:40.03 | SynrG | yes. e to edit, find the kernel line, append (after a blank) init=/bin/bash |
| 15:40.38 | SynrG | ^^ == "boot with" |
| 15:40.55 | zetheroo1 | kernel line starts with "linux /boot/vmlinuz ..... " right!? |
| 15:40.59 | SynrG | yes |
| 15:41.17 | jelly | (it used to start with kernel ... in older versions of grub) |
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| 15:42.26 | zetheroo1 | ok, now I am at "root@(none):/# |
| 15:43.13 | zetheroo1 | do I rename the script file? ... will that stop it from loading at startup? |
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| 15:44.20 | zetheroo1 | says that this is a read-only filesystem :P |
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| 15:44.25 | musca | zetheroo1: i guess your rootfs is mounted as readonly |
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| 15:44.33 | musca | !irfp |
| 15:44.44 | musca | !ifrp |
| 15:44.44 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 15:45.06 | zetheroo1 | musca: is that for me to do? |
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| 15:45.29 | musca | zetheroo1: yes, replace 4) by your cleanup operation |
| 15:45.45 | zetheroo1 | wow - ok |
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| 15:48.16 | zetheroo1 | ok, back to the login prompt :) |
| 15:48.28 | zetheroo1 | so that init script I made is no good then ... |
| 15:48.49 | zetheroo1 | do I need to add a '& ' somewhere? |
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| 15:51.47 | musca | zetheroo1: aren't there any example initscripts for your webservice on the internet? |
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| 15:52.22 | SynrG | zetheroo1: it's more involved than that. to reliably start and stop a service, you need to save its pid |
| 15:52.38 | SynrG | read about start-stop-daemon |
| 15:53.11 | SynrG | if your program doesn't provide a means to put it in the background, that's what the start-stop-daemon -b option is for |
| 15:54.04 | SynrG | and then that would be used in conjunction with -m (--make-pidfile) |
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| 15:54.20 | zetheroo1 | hmmm |
| 15:54.31 | zetheroo1 | maybe it's not such a bad idea to start it manually :D |
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| 15:56.21 | SynrG | zetheroo1: you can look at /etc/init.d/rsync for the rsync package for an example of start-stop-daemon run this way |
| 15:56.52 | zetheroo1 | ok |
| 15:57.04 | jhutchins | zetheroo1: Just curious, what "web service" is this? |
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| 15:57.11 | zetheroo1 | erpnext |
| 15:57.47 | zetheroo1 | Enterprise Resource Planing ... |
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| 15:59.09 | jhutchins | That really shouldn't require that anything besides MySQL and Apache be started. |
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| 15:59.20 | zetheroo1 | yep |
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| 16:00.03 | zetheroo1 | but to make it accessible they say to initiate this command from user erpnext: ./lib/wnf.py --serve |
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| 16:00.47 | oskie | hello. anyone know how to enable debuggin in Erlang? I have erlang-dbg installed, but I'm not sure how to use it |
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| 16:01.41 | Omilun | hello |
| 16:01.50 | Omilun | ex i need help |
| 16:02.11 | repxxl | how to enable .ssh key to a user |
| 16:02.15 | repxxl | :( |
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| 16:02.30 | josvuk | hello, what's the difference beetween contrib and main in the pool directory? |
| 16:03.35 | jpw | josvuk: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/resources.html#archive-sections |
| 16:03.41 | Omilun | i installed xfce desctop on debian 7 but i removed gnume 3 ... :( this comand https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
| 16:04.00 | repxxl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.31 | oskie | does anyone know how to use a -dbg package in general? I see it contains unstripped executables in /usr/lib/debug - but isn't it necessary that you start those executables explicitly? |
| 16:04.35 | Omilun | now ... all apps is remove and i can not conect wifi and i can not use hard drive |
| 16:04.38 | jpw | repxxl: it all starts by running ssh-keygen (this generates the key in ~/.ssh) then you must put the id_rsa.pub file in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. key based auth is enabled by default. |
| 16:05.48 | Omilun | any body help me? :( |
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| 16:07.07 | Omilun | any body help me? :( |
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| 16:07.26 | jpw | Omilun: that sounds like quite a pickle. what do you mean by you can not use the hard drive? |
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| 16:07.52 | Omilun | jpw: hell master |
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| 16:08.30 | Omilun | jpw: i removed gnome 3 and removed all of aps and configs |
| 16:08.46 | Brigo | Omilun, can you login in xfce? |
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| 16:08.58 | repxxl | jpw i created a user called git and assigned this git user to a existing group www-data and now the git user has no home directory .. wtf |
| 16:09.24 | Omilun | jpw: now i can not conect to internet with wifi and i can not see other hard drive |
| 16:09.29 | jpw | repxxl: did you create the user with `adduser` or `useradd`? |
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| 16:10.02 | Omilun | Brigo: i can login on xfce ~#startxfce4 |
| 16:10.40 | Omilun | Brigo: all packege and all config is removed |
| 16:10.42 | jpw | repxxl: adduser is the more friendly of the two commands as it creates the home directory based from /etc/skel. |
| 16:11.11 | JaneSmith | useradd -m should also create a home |
| 16:11.17 | Omilun | Brigo: bcz i removed gnome 3 and all apps and package |
| 16:11.18 | Brigo | Omilun, try to execute thunar |
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| 16:11.42 | Brigo | Omilun, i know, but xfce has it onw file manager: thunar. Try it. |
| 16:11.43 | Omilun | Brigo: thunar ? whats this? |
| 16:11.54 | Omilun | Brigo: ok |
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| 16:12.35 | Omilun | Brigo: it is instaled |
| 16:12.36 | repxxl | jpw useradd |
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| 16:12.50 | Brigo | Omilun, so can you access your disk now? |
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| 16:13.06 | Omilun | Brigo: only file sistem |
| 16:13.28 | Omilun | Brigo: lol this is thor hammer :D |
| 16:13.38 | Brigo | Omilun, and what do you like? |
| 16:13.44 | Omilun | Brigo: like it thx |
| 16:13.53 | jpw | repxxl: then you have the folloeing options. Either delete the user and recreate using useradd -m or adduser --- or just create the home directory as referenced in /etc/passwd and chown it and all of the contents to git. |
| 16:13.57 | Brigo | Omilun, for wifi, install wicd |
| 16:14.18 | Brigo | it is a network-manager |
| 16:14.43 | Omilun | Brigo: i can not conect all of them |
| 16:14.47 | Brigo | Omilun, go to xfce home page and read about it a bit, it will be better for you. |
| 16:15.09 | Brigo | Omilun, you need wireless connection to download packages ... |
| 16:15.11 | Omilun | Brigo: lol thay sayd con this chanell |
| 16:15.13 | josvuk | hm, are the debian machines often missused? for example as cheap backups |
| 16:15.31 | Brody | Something seems to be not quite right on my machine. When I get to the graphical log in, I cant log in as root. I can log in as Brody though. Additionally I can log in as root using ctrl+alt+f1. Alt+f7 takes me to a black screen with a flashing cursor. The graphical is on alt+f8. |
| 16:15.32 | Brigo | Omilun, sorry, what? |
| 16:15.38 | repxxl | jpw ok i have now a home directory and now when i want ssh i need to run ssh-keygen "myusername" ? |
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| 16:15.51 | jpw | repxxl: no. |
| 16:16.20 | jpw | repxxl: read the man page but usually you just run the command as the user that you want to generate the ssh-key for. |
| 16:16.23 | Omilun | Brigo: lol i was in #xfce and thay sayd we can not hellp u and goo to #debian |
| 16:16.35 | jpw | repxxl: for example "sudo -u git ssh-keygen" |
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| 16:17.17 | Omilun | Brigo: only debian user all of them is master |
| 16:17.29 | Brigo | not all of them :) |
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| 16:17.48 | repxxl | jpw nice thx do i need passparse ? what is this |
| 16:18.05 | Anticom | hi all |
| 16:18.15 | repxxl | anticom hi |
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| 16:18.20 | jhutchins | Omilun: Try this: aptitude instal task xfce-desktop |
| 16:18.21 | Anticom | when i want to uninstall gimp on a fresh installed debian instance, it wants to uninstall gnome aswell |
| 16:18.27 | jpw | repxxl: the passphrase is basically you encrypting the ssh key. It's not necessary so long as you only ever use the key on a secure machine. |
| 16:18.28 | Omilun | Brigo: haha yes bcz im debian user :D |
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| 16:18.34 | Anticom | do i want that? and why is that? |
| 16:19.09 | Brigo | Omilun, :) i didn't kown about you exactly |
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| 16:19.22 | Brigo | s/konw/think |
| 16:19.57 | repxxl | jpw ok now i have .ssh folder and have 2 files like id_rsa and id_rsa.pub now what should i do next ? |
| 16:20.18 | Omilun | Brigo: so why i can not use may wireless device? |
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| 16:20.35 | jhutchins | !tell Omilun about wifi |
| 16:20.36 | jpw | Anticom: Gimp provides an "image editor" for gnome. it's not a dependancy but it is because there is nothing to replace it gnome thinks that it can not function. Short solution - don't uninstall gimp. long solution - find an alternative. |
| 16:20.42 | Brigo | Omilun, you need a wireless manager, like wicd, install it. |
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| 16:21.12 | jpw | repxxl: cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys |
| 16:21.17 | jhutchins | Omilun: Or you could try the command I suggested (using a wired connection). |
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| 16:22.15 | Omilun | Brigo: i have it but it can not find any wifi |
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| 16:22.46 | repxxl | jpw it did nothing ... |
| 16:22.46 | Omilun | jhutchins: yes i use wired conection |
| 16:22.57 | Brigo | Omilun, sorry, i must go. |
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| 16:23.08 | Brigo | Omilun, try to reboot. Good luck :) |
| 16:23.09 | Omilun | Brigo: ok man thx dude |
| 16:23.41 | jpw | repxxl: no it didn't. it appended the public key to the authorized_keys file |
| 16:24.10 | jpw | repxxl: now take the id_rsa file to another machine and run `ssh -i id_rsa git@host` |
| 16:24.12 | repxxl | jpw just for information where is the authorized_keys file ? |
| 16:24.23 | Anticom | jpw thing is I'm trying to set up an image that will be distributed. It should be as slim as possible but i don't want to sacrifice the graphical user interface |
| 16:24.27 | jpw | repxxl: in .ssh |
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| 16:24.55 | jhutchins | jpw: ssh-copy-id can be handy in these cases. |
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| 16:25.47 | repxxl | jpw i still see just 2 files when i F5 it is a hidden file ? |
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| 16:26.55 | philipp_ | hey, whats the fastest way to get v4l support for the libopenvc-dev package on debian? |
| 16:27.01 | jpw | Anticom: i just looked at the gimp dependencies, it doesn't list any alternatives. you're stuck with it. |
| 16:27.03 | Omilun | jhutchins: how can i see my dirvers? i have file manager but i can see filesistems : only home and user downlaod document and video |
| 16:27.10 | jpw | s/gimp/gnome/ |
| 16:27.23 | Anticom | jpw same issue with inkscape and libreoffice |
| 16:27.25 | Anticom | ._. |
| 16:27.30 | buckfast | crafty1, booted from debian rescue cd, chrooted to the debian partitio and tryed 'grub-install /dev/sda' but it says 'error: Cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted=)' |
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| 16:28.41 | SynrG | philipp_: by asking your actual support question |
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| 16:29.35 | philipp_ | SynrG: what? |
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| 16:30.05 | SynrG | you asked what's the fastest way ... |
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| 16:30.18 | Anticom | could removing the doc files cause any issues? `/usr/share/doc/*` |
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| 16:30.45 | Omilun | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.48 | SynrG | philipp_: what are you actually asking? "get v4l support for" is vague |
| 16:30.57 | jpw | Anticom: i wouldn't worry abou it too much gnome isn't renouned for being lightweight. if you really must do without these packages you can create a dummy package with `equivs-control` and `equivs-build` and install these with dpkg -i before installing gnome and your problems will go away :D |
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| 16:31.24 | Omilun | Brigo: :) plz help me |
| 16:31.33 | Anticom | jpw that went a little too fast... i would consider myself still a unix newbie |
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| 16:32.14 | SynrG | philipp_: i assume you typoed, and meant libopencv-dev, not libopenvc-dev |
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| 16:32.28 | tytan | Anticom: No problem! ;) |
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| 16:32.52 | Anticom | so what am i supposed to do now? |
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| 16:33.29 | philipp_ | SynrG: i an trying detect a person via web cam on a raspberry pi debian/noobs. i installed opencv-dev and caompiled the program (that worked fine on my gentoo desktop). Unfortunatly on the raspberry it fails to open the video input (wich usually means v4l support for openvl is missing) |
| 16:33.31 | buckfast | crafty1: Never mind, mounted /dev and /proc and all's good now :-). Thanks for the help, buddy. |
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| 16:33.51 | crafty1_ | buckfast: glad to hear it works! |
| 16:34.02 | repxxl | jpw you know how i can connect with putty to my rsa key i created on linux ? |
| 16:34.11 | jpw | in that case I suggest you don't mess with the package manager and just accept that gnome installs gimp, inkscape et al. |
| 16:34.16 | crafty1_ | buckfast: sorry I was afk |
| 16:34.20 | Omilun | any body help me? |
| 16:34.29 | philipp_ | SynrG: now i wanna geit v4l support for the libopencv-dev package |
| 16:34.40 | jpw | repxxl: download one of putty's sister apps called pagent |
| 16:34.44 | SynrG | for starters: |
| 16:34.47 | SynrG | !rpi |
| 16:34.47 | dpkg | The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:35.06 | SynrG | philipp_: but since i bothered to look it up when i thought you were running debian: http://opencv.org/hot-fix-for-opencv-2-4-6.html |
| 16:35.15 | Omilun | help? |
| 16:35.18 | Omilun | me? |
| 16:35.28 | SynrG | and that's all i know about it. see #raspberrypi for more help |
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| 16:36.03 | repxxl | jpw im trying to add the id_rsa.pub to pagent but it says me he wants only putty keys ... |
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| 16:36.29 | Omilun | plz help |
| 16:36.53 | jpw | repxxl: thats because you haven't converted the key with puttygen. tbh putty is way out of scope of this channel. google it. |
| 16:37.14 | jhutchins | repxxl: You need to import it - putty uses a different format. |
| 16:37.45 | jhutchins | Omilun: Did you do the task install? Did you read the link dpkg sent you about wifi? |
| 16:38.30 | jhutchins | repxxl: Or, you know, read the docs for putty. |
| 16:38.35 | mtn | Omilun: could you retate your problem? what is wrong? |
| 16:38.47 | Omilun | jhutchins: yes i know it and i installed my driver package |
| 16:38.55 | Omilun | mtn: hi |
| 16:38.59 | repxxl | wow so i should create the putty rsa and upload it to my debian or the debian ssh-keygen wow |
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| 16:39.36 | Omilun | mtn: i installed xfce desktop and dell gnome 3 |
| 16:40.02 | Omilun | mtn: know all apps and packeges is removed |
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| 16:40.29 | Omilun | mtn: and know i can not connect any wifi |
| 16:40.33 | hpekdemir | how can I force a file to have user ownership of "foo" even if userA has created the file? |
| 16:40.44 | hpekdemir | I tried sticky bit u+s. but it seems only g+s works |
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| 16:40.59 | hpekdemir | and I set acls with setfacl. group is working so far |
| 16:41.03 | mtn | Omilun: which desktop do you want to use? gnome or xfce? |
| 16:41.06 | Omilun | mtn: and i can not see my hard drivers ... i see only sistem diriver |
| 16:41.18 | hpekdemir | but I want everything created in that directory to have "foo:foo" |
| 16:41.24 | Omilun | mtn: xfce |
| 16:42.34 | mtn | Omilun: follow these instructions about installing xfce in an already installed system: https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
| 16:43.19 | Omilun | mtn: i followed this page |
| 16:43.22 | mtn | Omilun: the exact spot: https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce#Install_Xfce_in_an_already_installed_system |
| 16:43.28 | mtn | Omilun: do it again ;) |
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| 16:43.38 | philipp_ | SynrG: you are a jerk. sireously you did not even bother trying to understand the problem. Thats exactly why i moved to gentoo. People are trying to help each other there and dont just pretend to be sth better |
| 16:43.58 | Omilun | mtn: ok |
| 16:44.09 | philipp_ | SynrG: you should think about why you are in a support channel when you dont actually wanna help... |
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| 16:44.22 | SynrG | philipp_: uh? i provided a useful answer even though i thought your question was off-topic. i don't understand why you're angry. |
| 16:44.38 | SynrG | philipp_: are you or are you not using raspberry pi? if you are, it is not supported in this channel. |
| 16:44.40 | jpw | hpekdemir: using groups and the sticky bit here is the correct solution. the soltion you are after is called a single user file system eg FAT. think twice before implementing that as it is not secure. |
| 16:44.52 | SynrG | philipp_: this is not rudeness. it's just the rules of this channel. sorry if you feel otherwise. |
| 16:45.30 | hpekdemir | jpw: the problem is: I have a dir with www-data as u and g. I want user "ftp" to create files, but I need them to be www-data |
| 16:45.32 | SynrG | philipp_: i pointed you at a useful news item which indicated the version in which opencv appeared to have a fix for non-working v4l. |
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| 16:46.07 | SynrG | philipp_: i spent probably *10 minutes* figuring this out for you ... 10 minutes of my *volunteer* time for, what, to be called a jerK? |
| 16:46.15 | jpw | hpekdemir: what's the ftp software? chown is a common feature of ftp servers. |
| 16:46.26 | repxxl | .ssh/authorized_keys is a folder or a file ? |
| 16:46.29 | hpekdemir | jpw: vsftpd |
| 16:46.39 | hpekdemir | jpw: you mean I should chown ftp to www-data? |
| 16:46.44 | philipp_ | SynrG: no, it has nothing to do with the bug. the bug is since 3.4 and the package is 3.3. And the problem IS debian related i asked for help. I asked for how to get a package with different compiler flags compiled in in debian usually |
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| 16:47.22 | philipp_ | raspberry is debian architecture so it is a debian problem... anyway i dont wanna argue to be honnest. i go and focus on my problem again |
| 16:47.49 | philipp_ | SynrG: sry for beeing so offensive before btw... that was inappropiated |
| 16:47.52 | SynrG | philipp_: did you read the dpkg bot factoid? i did not write that. |
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| 16:48.46 | Omilun | mtn: apt-get install `apt-cache search xfce | cut -d ' ' -f1` this comand not install |
| 16:48.50 | jpw | hpekdemir: no, vsftpd runs as root then on connection forks and drops permissions depending on who authenticated. iirc you can override this and force a connection to become whatever user you want. |
| 16:49.34 | Omilun | mtn: aaaaaaaaaaaa 1.5 gig :D |
| 16:49.34 | mtn | Omilun: sorry, but I don't see that command listed at: https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce#Install_Xfce_in_an_already_installed_system |
| 16:50.55 | Omilun | i used all of them only not used this :apt-get install `apt-cache search xfce | cut -d ' ' -f1` |
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| 16:51.30 | meta-system | hi #debian |
| 16:51.53 | meta-system | I looking for qtmultimedia -dev |
| 16:51.54 | philipp_ | SynrG: what factoid? anyway you can resolve the problem i had by unistalling libopencv-dev installing libv4l-dev and installing libopenvc-dev again |
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| 16:52.05 | SynrG | philipp_: apology accepted. for this, and future raspberry pi support requests, you really do need to see #raspberrypi for help, because even though it is debian-based, it is not debian. they support it there. if you have a compilation problem *on a debian system*, however, we can answer that here. |
| 16:52.05 | meta-system | anybody have an idea to find it? |
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| 16:52.41 | SynrG | philipp_: it's unclear to me which kind of problem you have. you mentioned the rpi, so i thought your issue was rpi-specific. |
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| 16:53.51 | jpw | hpekdemir: yeah here we go. "chown_uploads on", "chown_username www-data". then set the group on the ftp dir to www-data, set the sticky bit on the ftp directoy and put the ftp user in the www-data group. job done. |
| 16:54.04 | Omilun | mtn: thx dude |
| 16:54.26 | mtn | Omilun: after removing gnome you just need to: apt-get install xfce4 |
| 16:54.31 | SynrG | philipp_: cross-compiling for rpi using rpi sources is another matter. i don't think we can help. |
| 16:54.56 | Omilun | mtn: i removed gnome last night |
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| 16:55.12 | Omilun | and i use xfce mtn |
| 16:55.26 | philipp_ | SynrG: anyway i solved it now. sorry for raging you again. could you kindly show me where the ra pi channel is again? (i guess ur right that that is the more appropriate channel) |
| 16:55.31 | mtn | Omilun: I asked you to redo the steps listed in the wiki. please do so and then we can try to work on your issue. |
| 16:55.51 | SynrG | philipp_: #raspberrypi |
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| 16:56.04 | philipp_ | SynrG: thx |
| 16:56.31 | Omilun | mtn: i used it last night and i sad for it bcz its soo bad ... my packeges and apps in gnome removed |
| 16:56.44 | meta-system | no one have an idea ? |
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| 16:57.14 | mtn | Omilun: so what is your problem now? you said applications were missing? |
| 16:57.51 | Omilun | mtn: i can not conect to wifi |
| 16:58.05 | Omilun | mtn: and i can not see my hard drver |
| 16:58.21 | Omilun | mtn: hard drives |
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| 16:59.12 | mtn | Omilun: what does not seeing hard drives mean? what tool are you using? what happens? |
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| 16:59.29 | JaneSmith | Omilun how do you know they are still there? :)) |
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| 17:01.55 | Omilun | mtn: i have filemanager thunder and nemo but i can not use my other hard drive o can use only filesistem |
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| 17:02.31 | SynrG | Omilun: i assume you mean 'thunar'. i have no idea what you mean by 'nemo' |
| 17:02.32 | Omilun | JaneSmith: lol :D |
| 17:02.39 | mtn | Omilun: I don't use xfce, but is there a disks tool? this sounds like you just need to see how xfce handles these things. |
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| 17:02.59 | SynrG | isn't that for cinnamon instead? |
| 17:03.02 | repxxl | this is not working man cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys |
| 17:03.11 | repxxl | i don't see its created authorized_keys |
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| 17:03.53 | elichai2 | !seen nabblet |
| 17:03.53 | dpkg | nabblet <~stuhilkra@2001:4ca0:2e03:0:201:2eff:fe4d:a7bf> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-next, 5d 2h 26m 15s ago, saying: 'hi, are there instruction for getting to run intels OS drivers https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads under debian next?'. |
| 17:03.57 | Omilun | mtn: did u like printscr my file manager? |
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| 17:04.24 | mtn | Omilun: sorry, I have no idea what that means. |
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| 17:04.28 | elichai2 | what #debian-next for?! |
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| 17:04.56 | crafty1_ | Omilun: did you mount the other drive |
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| 17:04.59 | SynrG | elichai2: first of all, #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net, not here. second, it's for support of testing/unstable (jessie/sid) |
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| 17:05.07 | chris_99 | anyone know why i get "Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 17:05.17 | Omilun | crafty1_: yes |
| 17:05.22 | chris_99 | (using wheezy) |
| 17:05.22 | wols_ | ,v build-essential |
| 17:05.24 | judd | Package: build-essential on i386 -- squeeze: 11.5; wheezy: 11.5; jessie: 11.6; sid: 11.6 |
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| 17:05.30 | elichai2 | ohh lol so the bot here is the same for both servers? |
| 17:05.33 | crafty1_ | Omilun: but you cannot browse it? |
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| 17:05.34 | wols_ | chris_99: broken sources.list most probably |
| 17:05.38 | SynrG | elichai2: yes |
| 17:05.40 | wols_ | !tell chris_99 about wheezy sources.list |
| 17:05.43 | chris_99 | i only just installed it |
| 17:05.44 | Omilun | crafty1_: yes |
| 17:05.44 | elichai2 | kk |
| 17:05.52 | crafty1_ | What is the filesystem type on the drive |
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| 17:06.11 | wols_ | chris_99: and dpkg just wrote you what should be in that file |
| 17:06.17 | Omilun | crafty1_: i can use only filesystem |
| 17:06.18 | chris_99 | cheers |
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| 17:06.30 | erore | How do I mount windows share in debian? I tried mount.cifs but it needs root privileges, if I go root, I cannot wirte to the mount as a user. |
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| 17:06.46 | shawnbon206 | installing wheezy on my nexus 7 right now |
| 17:06.51 | crafty1_ | Omilun: I don't know what you mean. Do you mean the drive that Debian is on |
| 17:06.59 | josvuk | in a file are Pre-Depends: so who writes this Depends human developer or is it machine generated? |
| 17:07.01 | wols_ | erore: what are the permissions for the mountpoint? |
| 17:07.11 | crafty1_ | Omilun: Are there files already on it or is it a blank drive? |
| 17:07.12 | wols_ | josvuk: humans |
| 17:07.41 | erore | wols_: before mounting, I am the owner, after mounting root becomes the owner |
| 17:07.52 | shawnbon206 | machines! |
| 17:08.19 | SynrG | erore: look at the rest of the options in the mount.cifs man page |
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| 17:08.33 | SynrG | erore: you either need uid/gid mapping or else force it to a specific uid/gid |
| 17:08.41 | Omilun | crafty1_: u know i can not use any hard drive in windows 7 is drive d c e i can not use them on xfce |
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| 17:08.59 | repxxl | how to check if my rsa works ? with putty i need to use completely different rsa |
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| 17:09.29 | Omilun | crafty1_: i can use only file sistem on filemanager |
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| 17:10.50 | SynrG | erore: personally i just use uid= and gid=. a more elegant solution would be to properly map uid/gid (idmap?) but i never could be bothered to research that. |
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| 17:11.04 | crafty1_ | Omilun: If you could login as root and run fdisk -l and paste the output that would help troubleshoot |
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| 17:11.41 | Omilun | crafty1_: lol :D thx ur id man |
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| 17:11.58 | SynrG | !standard english |
| 17:11.58 | dpkg | Use standard <english> to portray yourself as an intelligent, articulate person. In middle school, <u> <wud> (you would) have thought this was cute. But here, it makes you harder to understand, especially for non-native speakers of English. See also <ne1>. |
| 17:13.18 | JaneSmith | standard english is uk or us english? |
| 17:13.31 | Omilun | :D |
| 17:13.40 | jhutchins | JaneSmith: Yes. |
| 17:13.46 | SynrG | exactly :) |
| 17:13.53 | Omilun | bale bale |
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| 17:14.53 | SynrG | Omilun: but seriously, i know not everyone can type flawlessly, but i have to study everything you say a little bit longer than everyone else's messages because of a) a bad habit of abbreviating the hell out of everything and b) atrocious typing skillz |
| 17:14.57 | Zzeiss | JaneSmith: Either is fine. But billion is still 10^9. |
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| 17:15.21 | SynrG | Omilun: please be kind to your helpers and slow down and say things in plain english :) |
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| 17:15.47 | jhutchins | !fundamentals | Omilun |
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| 17:16.03 | jhutchins | So many bots, so many syntaxes. |
| 17:16.04 | erore | SynrG: I tried with uid and gid and still get permission denied when trying to create a file, root still becomes the owner after mount: mount.cifs //server/share /home/me/share --verbose -o username=me,password=pass uid=1000 gid=1000 rw |
| 17:16.09 | jhutchins | !fundamentals |
| 17:16.09 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/ Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ |
| 17:16.25 | jhutchins | Omilun: I recommend those links. |
| 17:16.35 | jhutchins | Omilun: You can use your windows partitions in Linux. |
| 17:16.45 | SynrG | erore: i don't think that's syntactically correct ... |
| 17:17.02 | jhutchins | Omilun: tldp has a lot of translations but I don't know about Farsi/ |
| 17:17.04 | jhutchins | . |
| 17:17.13 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.31 | SynrG | erore: ^^ use commas to separate the arguments of "-o" |
| 17:17.50 | SynrG | erore: -o username=me,password=pass,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw |
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| 17:18.08 | SynrG | erore: unless that was just a transcription error |
| 17:18.55 | erore | SynrG: commas did the job :-) thanks |
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| 17:19.10 | SynrG | erore: super! |
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| 17:20.37 | Omilun | jhutchins: lol u know farsi? |
| 17:21.11 | jhutchins | Omilun: Nope. |
| 17:21.31 | Omilun | jhutchins: i know |
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| 17:21.38 | Omilun | jhutchins: :D |
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| 17:22.18 | Omilun | jhutchins: but i can not use this chanel all peuple is strong im noob :D |
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| 17:23.36 | Omilun | jhutchins: gnome was many bugs and i removed it but i did know xfce have this problem |
| 17:23.44 | jpw | Omilun: we were all in your position at one point. and believe me 12 years ago the resourses that were available sucked compared to what we have now days :) |
| 17:24.22 | Omilun | jpw: woooow |
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| 17:25.20 | Omilun | jpw: u right |
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| 17:27.38 | Omilun | jpw: i need a good desktop highspeed and strong ... |
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| 17:29.16 | mtn_ | Omilun: gnome is just that, at least for many of us ;) |
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| 17:30.17 | Omilun | mtn_: gnome 3? :( |
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| 17:30.51 | mtn_ | Omilun: yes |
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| 17:31.54 | Omilun | mtn_: windos 7 desktop was faster than it ... gnome 2 is faster than gnome 3 |
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| 17:32.44 | Omilun | mtn_: i was problem on gnome 3 |
| 17:32.59 | Omilun | mtn_: i had* |
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| 17:35.57 | Omilun | i dont like muse mtn i like just keyboard gnome not have good shortcut manager :( |
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| 17:49.49 | repxxl | i created a rsa key how i can test it now ? |
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| 17:52.03 | veryape | repxxl: test it how? |
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| 17:56.06 | iio7 | Everytime I try to access the Debian wiki I get "Forbidden! You are not allowed to access this!", others get the same? |
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| 17:56.43 | bullgard4 | "~$ LANG=C man colord; No manual entry for colord." Where is the documentation for device color profiles to be found? |
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| 18:00.12 | musca | iio7: wrong URL? |
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| 18:01.48 | Anuska | have anyone problem with iceweasel ? |
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| 18:02.09 | Mikaela | iio7: Are you using VPN or proxy? I think that I used to get similar error with PrivateInternetAccess, but I'm not sure. |
| 18:02.09 | iio7 | Url: https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ |
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| 18:02.23 | iio7 | Mikaela, yes |
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| 18:02.31 | Mikaela | That works for me without proxies/VPN. |
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| 18:02.42 | musca | Anuska: No |
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| 18:02.57 | Anuska | Becouse i run 10 iceweasel and crashed |
| 18:03.02 | iio7 | Mikaela, thanks |
| 18:03.21 | Anuska | i click to view the page and not open |
| 18:03.25 | Anuska | and i need ti kill and reopen |
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| 18:05.51 | musca | ,v iceweasel --release wheezy-security |
| 18:05.51 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- wheezy-security: 24.3.0esr-1~deb7u1 |
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| 18:07.11 | musca | Anuska: did i correctly understand, are you still using iceweasel version 10? |
| 18:07.32 | Anuska | 24.3.0 |
| 18:07.46 | musca | ok. |
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| 18:08.32 | Pullphinger | I'm installing Squeeze from a netinst CD. Is there a way of changing the partition sizes during the install steps? Box is an HP desktop with 250GB - using the entire disk |
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| 18:11.47 | Mikaela | There should be. |
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| 18:15.18 | echo083 | hello |
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| 18:15.38 | fireblood | Hi, recently installed wine and i relized it was quite a old version of wine. I also looked for libSDL2 but only found the 1.2 version. I don't know how synaptic package manager, apt and aptitude work. But i think my problem has something to to with the repositries my apt are linked to? How do change my apt or synaptic settings so i can download the latest version of wine and SDL? |
| 18:15.49 | fireblood | realized* |
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| 18:16.21 | echo083 | fireblood, what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list file ? |
| 18:16.31 | fireblood | i will check |
| 18:16.36 | Anuska | pfffff i crashed again |
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| 18:16.47 | Anuska | iceweasel |
| 18:16.49 | Anuska | sucks |
| 18:16.58 | Anuska | whyy :(( |
| 18:17.12 | echo083 | Anuska, because you must use firefox |
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| 18:17.37 | Anuska | hmm |
| 18:17.41 | Anuska | really? |
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| 18:18.11 | echo083 | Anuska, http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Firefox-in-Debian-Linux |
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| 18:18.47 | Anuska | thanks :( |
| 18:18.54 | echo083 | fireblood, i started a league of legend match i might long to answer |
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| 18:19.23 | fireblood | echo083, i got this result when using cat # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20140208-13:45]/ wheezy main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20140208-13:45]/ wheezy main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' |
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| 18:20.19 | mtn_ | fireblood: in the future, please paste stuff like that to http://paste.debian.net |
| 18:20.32 | MMavipc | What's the easiest way to get a command to run 10 seconds after boot and all services started? |
| 18:20.33 | fireblood | ok thank you i will |
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| 18:20.59 | echo083 | fireblood, you have latest stable debian i don't recommend you to install a more updated version of wine it is a very instable application |
| 18:21.16 | echo083 | fireblood, which app doesn't work with your current version of wine ? |
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| 18:21.26 | mtn_ | fireblood: if you need newer apps, you can look in backports, you can make your own backports and you can also install from 3rd party sources, though that is not supported here. |
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| 18:23.48 | fireblood | I have not really tried to install anything yet. But when i looked at t path of exile wine test results, they said it got best results using wine 1.7 forward |
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| 18:24.26 | SynrG | MMavipc: use 'at', running perhaps from /etc/rc.local ? |
| 18:24.27 | Anuska | why not install the firefox with packet manager? |
| 18:24.43 | mtn_ | or even the package manager |
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| 18:24.52 | tremon | MMavipc: put sleep 10 && $command at the end of rc.local |
| 18:25.07 | fireblood | and also SDL2 is not available on my package manager. so i thought there was something wrong with my repository links |
| 18:25.14 | tremon | SynrG: that was my first answer too, but at doesn't do second resolution it seems |
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| 18:25.29 | fireblood | the way my synaptic is set up* |
| 18:25.35 | fireblood | package manager |
| 18:25.36 | fireblood | * |
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| 18:25.54 | mtn_ | fireblood: a good source for package info: http://packages.debian.org |
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| 18:26.14 | SynrG | tremon: seriously? /usr/share/doc/at/timespec ... doh! you're right :( |
| 18:26.21 | fireblood | ok thanks i will chech it out! |
| 18:26.22 | MMavipc | tremon SynrG, thank you. I think I'll use at at the end of rc.local, my problem is that my wlan card is getting soft rf-killed on boot |
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| 18:26.33 | SynrG | MMavipc: so 1 minute after is ok? |
| 18:26.37 | MMavipc | oh |
| 18:26.38 | MMavipc | derp |
| 18:27.04 | MMavipc | how do I launch a shell script in a different process from bash? |
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| 18:27.08 | Anuska | E: Package 'firefox' has no installation candidate |
| 18:27.27 | SynrG | MMavipc: what you *can* do is tell at to run it 'now' |
| 18:27.33 | SynrG | MMavipc: then sleep 10 inside the script |
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| 18:27.52 | mtn_ | Anuska: iceweasel is firefox in debian |
| 18:28.09 | Anuska | yes but iceweasel crashed in the last few days |
| 18:28.09 | Anuska | :(( |
| 18:28.15 | SynrG | MMavipc: but at this point i'm wondering if tremon's solution isn't nicer after all. :) |
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| 18:28.18 | tremon | MMavipc: or even echo "sleep 10 && $command" | at now ;) |
| 18:28.31 | SynrG | that too |
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| 18:29.08 | echo083 | Anuska, firefox is not available in official repo that's why i think i would recommend a manual install |
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| 18:29.35 | echo083 | Anuska, if iceweasel crashed you must make a report |
| 18:30.14 | Anuska | how i see what is the err? |
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| 18:31.20 | echo083 | Anuska, start iceweasel in a terminal |
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| 18:32.07 | echo083 | Anuska, if you have difficulties i would recommend you debian based distribution like ubuntu |
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| 18:32.58 | jhutchins | echo083: No, there is no need to manually install firefox. |
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| 18:33.33 | atannus | RightClick->new on terminal window used to (Wheezy) spawn a new terminal in the same working directory. It (Jessie) now opens in my home. How do I change that? |
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| 18:33.51 | jhutchins | Anuska: Which release are you on, and which iceweasel are you running? |
| 18:34.28 | jhutchins | !why iceweasel |
| 18:34.28 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. Mozilla Corp revoked the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg> <iceweasel vs firefox>. |
| 18:34.31 | Anuska | is the frist time when crashed ! |
| 18:34.37 | Anuska | i like debian is nice |
| 18:34.46 | Anuska | jhutchins the least |
| 18:34.47 | jhutchins | echo083: If iceweasel is crashing, firefox will crash too. It's the same code. |
| 18:34.59 | echo083 | jhulst, no it's not te |
| 18:35.09 | echo083 | jhutchins, no it's not the same version |
| 18:35.29 | jhutchins | !mdo |
| 18:35.31 | echo083 | jhutchins, iceweasel in repo is a very old version of firefox |
| 18:35.56 | echo083 | jhutchins, and i don't know what was exactly modified to be compatible with debian licenses |
| 18:36.19 | jhutchins | !mdn |
| 18:36.19 | dpkg | The "Extended Support Release" version (10) of the Iceweasel web browser is in <squeeze-backports>. Newer Iceweasel (also Icedove and Iceape) are at http://mozilla.debian.net/ for squeeze and wheezy or in <experimental> for jessie and sid. |
| 18:36.30 | jhutchins | echo083: I do know. |
| 18:36.38 | jhutchins | echo083: The name and the icons. That's all. |
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| 18:37.03 | echo083 | jhutchins, still old version |
| 18:37.04 | musca | and the search for upgrades is disabled. |
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| 18:37.30 | jhutchins | Anuska: You haven't responded to which release and which iceweasel yet. |
| 18:37.51 | tremon | musca: of course it is. why would you ever run iceweasel as root? |
| 18:37.59 | jhutchins | Anuska: As buggy as the firefox code is, it's best not to run too new a version directly from Mozilla, but it's probably a plugin that crashed it. |
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| 18:38.07 | Anuska | 24.4.0 |
| 18:38.20 | Anuska | how i run ice from terminal to see the error? |
| 18:38.21 | repxxl | can a user have multiple groups ? |
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| 18:39.17 | musca | tremon: yes, i fine with using apt for upgrading, even for the addons. |
| 18:39.22 | jhutchins | Anuska: just run "iceweasel" from the command line. |
| 18:39.25 | echo083 | jhutchins, no you are wrong sorry latest firefox are exceptionnaly stable :) i use the latest all day and it has never crashed ! |
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| 18:40.07 | jhutchins | echo083: I didn't say it wasn't stable, in fact I said the opposite. The code is full of bugs, but nonetheless it works. |
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| 18:40.31 | jhutchins | echo083: There is a bug in the history module that I reported when it was still called "mosaic". |
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| 18:40.53 | Anuska | y run but not log my error |
| 18:40.54 | musca | echo083: you hardly find any two users that have the same set of addons,plugins and extensions and browse the same sites. |
| 18:40.59 | echo083 | jhulst, "As buggy as the firefox code is, it's best not to run too new a version" |
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| 18:41.07 | echo083 | jhutchins, "As buggy as the firefox code is, it's best not to run too new a version" |
| 18:41.07 | MMavipc | how do I switch the physical disc eject button from request-eject mode to force-eject mode? |
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| 18:41.15 | repxxl | can a user have 2 groups ? |
| 18:41.19 | echo083 | jhutchins, it's what you said |
| 18:41.28 | jhutchins | echo083: Correct. |
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| 18:41.40 | MMavipc | repxxl: a user can be a member of unlimited groups |
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| 18:42.02 | repxxl | MMavipc how to list what groups have my user? |
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| 18:42.07 | musca | repxxl: use the groups command to list your groups. |
| 18:42.15 | MMavipc | or cat /etc/group |
| 18:42.42 | jhutchins | echo083: It's also well known that using the mozilla installer, especially for several releases in a row can make a real mess of your system. |
| 18:43.11 | repxxl | MMavipc when i want remove my current group on the user and add another group |
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| 18:43.44 | Reelax-afk | Hi, what is the update iso at : http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ and do i run it after debian is installed ? |
| 18:43.56 | MMavipc | repxxl: edit /etc/group and relog |
| 18:44.19 | asarch | In a 6.x-based system, I change the /etc/apt/sources.list repositories, then I apt-get update and then can I go directly to apt-get -y dist-upgrade or should I do an apt-get -y update first? |
| 18:44.23 | musca | repxxl: perhaps you should tell us about your problem not about your solution. |
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| 18:44.41 | echo083 | jhutchins, wrong again :p sorry i know very very well firefox i made 5 manual upgrades and i had no problem |
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| 18:45.44 | jhutchins | echo083: Your lack of knowledge of the problems does not bear on their existence. You might consider what I said about mosaic. |
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| 18:46.28 | jhutchins | Good grief, that code is more than thirty years old now. |
| 18:46.38 | echo083 | jhulst, about mosaic ? |
| 18:46.49 | echo083 | jhutchins, about mosaic ? |
| 18:46.59 | musca | Reelax-afk: you can use the online debian repository and do a "apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade" |
| 18:47.15 | jhutchins | !tell echo083 about tab completion |
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| 18:47.56 | echo083 | jhutchins, i know about tab completion ... just keyboard mistakes |
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| 18:48.06 | Reelax | musca: to update from the current version ? |
| 18:48.11 | echo083 | jhutchins, don't be angry because you were wrong about firefox |
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| 18:48.25 | musca | Reelax: this should download only the small number of fixed packages. |
| 18:48.32 | sml | what is the difference beetween apt and aptitude? |
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| 18:48.51 | instadeath | sml: aptitude is curses based |
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| 18:49.11 | tremon | asarch: the release notes will tell you to upgrade first. |
| 18:49.11 | tremon | !tell asarch about squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:49.19 | instadeath | sml: so it has a gui-ish type of interface |
| 18:49.25 | asarch | Thank you tremon |
| 18:49.30 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
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| 18:49.45 | sml | the only diference is the gui? |
| 18:50.15 | instadeath | sml: that has been my understanding, but I've never deep dived on the topic. |
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| 18:50.24 | musca | Reelax: dist-upgrade will not switch to a new distribution, but it allows to introduce new packages. |
| 18:50.33 | sml | ok, thanks instadeath |
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| 18:51.44 | instadeath | sml: it also has a few more book keeping type of features. |
| 18:52.00 | jhutchins | sml: No, there is a text-based menu interface, not a tru GUI, but aptitude is a bit more thorough about resolving dependencies, and can offer you multiple solutions to conflicts as well. /msg dpkg why aptitude , /msg dpkg why not aptitude |
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| 18:52.22 | instadeath | sml: jhutchins is right. like I said: gui-ish |
| 18:52.34 | sml | so i would use aptitude instead apt? |
| 18:53.04 | instadeath | sml: matter of faith I suppose. I'd rather not start a holy war. |
| 18:53.05 | jhutchins | sml: apt refers to the package management system in general. aptitude is a substitute for apt-get. |
| 18:53.32 | sml | ok understand |
| 18:53.32 | jhutchins | sml: It's mostly a matter of what you're used to, but if you're new try both and see which you like better. |
| 18:53.40 | sml | good |
| 18:53.43 | sml | thanks! |
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| 18:54.54 | musca | sml: even switching back and forward between them should be no problem anymore. |
| 18:55.18 | jhutchins | It really never was a problem, because dpkg did the actual work. |
| 18:55.24 | jhutchins | s/did/does/ |
| 18:55.50 | bullgard4 | "~$ LANG=C man colord; No manual entry for colord." Where is the documentation for device color profiles to be found? |
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| 18:56.08 | jhutchins | Wait, no, I can't count on my fingers today. Mosaic is not 30 years old, more like 20. |
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| 18:56.22 | jhutchins | Maybe 22. |
| 18:56.43 | jelly-home | www is 1993 or so |
| 18:56.47 | lockedin | Could someone asisst me in compiling a program from source? I cd'd into the directory did ./configure then when I try to do "make" it says no targets specified and no makefile found |
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| 18:57.03 | MMavipc | does this look valid? |
| 18:57.04 | MMavipc | echo "sleep 10;rfkill unblock all; service hostapd restart" | at now |
| 18:57.25 | jelly-home | gives jhutchins a gopher client |
| 18:57.39 | xingu | gives jelly-home an ftparchie client |
| 18:58.02 | jelly-home | ftpsearch.ntnu.no ftw? |
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| 18:58.34 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Original release January, 1993, development started in late 92. |
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| 18:58.56 | xingu | jelly: sydney.edu.au/engineering/it/~bob/mhs.html |
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| 19:00.14 | jelly-home | xingu: I don't even know what X.400 is! |
| 19:00.36 | xingu | ;) |
| 19:00.48 | xingu | jelly-home: shame on YOU :) |
| 19:01.00 | xingu | kids these days, I dunno. |
| 19:01.11 | jelly-home | I like tech so old it makes me feel like a youngling |
| 19:01.14 | jhutchins | X for an AS400? |
| 19:01.27 | Zzeiss | Is there any way to force apt-get or aptitude to reinstall all of the GCC toolchain? I've screwed myself up badly... |
| 19:01.43 | xingu | jelly-home: was a pretty big deal when someone gated ftpsearch.ntnu into mhsnet ;) |
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| 19:02.43 | jhutchins | Zzeiss: Well, remove it, then install it again, or ask for it to remove, copy the dependencies it reports, then aptitude reinstall that. |
| 19:02.48 | xingu | jelly-home: you'll note some similarities between x.400 and ldap |
| 19:02.58 | xingu | jelly-home: I have no idea why that might be |
| 19:03.00 | xingu | jelly-home: none at all |
| 19:03.06 | xingu | jelly-home: really... none. not a clue. |
| 19:03.27 | Zzeiss | jhutchins: it doesn't reinstall some base libraries.... :-( |
| 19:03.35 | Zzeiss | is there a "what-provides capability? |
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| 19:04.25 | jhutchins | Zzeiss: I think apt-file does that. |
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| 19:06.29 | Cyis | if I setup multiple grok filters inside a filter block am I assured they'll be checked in the order they are listed in? |
| 19:06.46 | Cyis | ack... wrong window |
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| 19:07.18 | MrMonkey31 | ^ ^ ^ -- low blood sugar alert! BEEP-BOOP! |
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| 19:08.37 | jelly-home | xingu: now, I've heard things bout X.500.... but X.400? Nope |
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| 19:10.02 | Zzeiss | jhutchins: thanks. I'll check into that. |
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| 19:11.37 | fireblood | Hi, tried to change which server my synaptic package manager downloads it's packages from. But it just changes to "main server" and only packages already installed on my system is shown. How do i fix this? and are there any official servers that conatins the latest versions of packages? |
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| 19:14.13 | lorenzo | do you install any special font set on debian on a desktop? |
| 19:14.18 | lorenzo | they look uglier compared to ubuntu/mint |
| 19:15.04 | Aeiri | lorenzo: are you using a DE? |
| 19:15.15 | jhutchins | fireblood: It's easier to control that if you use console based tools, and yes, all of the servers should have the most current packages. |
| 19:15.33 | lorenzo | Aeiri, yes, xfce |
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| 19:17.11 | Aeiri | lorenzo: Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts; try enabling anti-aliasing |
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| 19:17.20 | fireblood | Ok, but for me only wine 1.4.1 is available though the latest stable version is 1.6 somthing. And SDL2 i not either, only SDL1.2. |
| 19:17.23 | lorenzo | yeah I've enabled antialiasing and hinting |
| 19:17.41 | lorenzo | I'm starting to think it's just my eyes :P |
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| 19:17.53 | Aeiri | lorenzo: different resolution? |
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| 19:18.08 | lorenzo | Aeiri, yeah, 1920x1080 where they look good, 1366x768 where they look ugly |
| 19:18.14 | lorenzo | on high res they're way smoother |
| 19:18.14 | Aeiri | lorenzo: i guess you could try installing the ttf fonts if you have a problem with them |
| 19:18.22 | Aeiri | lorenzo: ah |
| 19:18.33 | Aeiri | lorenzo: stick to 1920x1080 then, its a better resolution anyway :D |
| 19:18.39 | lorenzo | they're two different PCs |
| 19:18.42 | lorenzo | so I was comparing side by side |
| 19:18.42 | Aeiri | aww |
| 19:18.44 | Aeiri | i see |
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| 19:18.49 | Aeiri | laptop that doesnt have that high of resolution |
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| 19:18.54 | Aeiri | hmm |
| 19:18.59 | lorenzo | yeah most laptops are 1366x768 |
| 19:19.11 | fireblood | how do i whisper to a specific person specific person on irc? |
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| 19:19.25 | lorenzo | fireblood, /query nick |
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| 19:19.30 | fireblood | ok thanks |
| 19:19.31 | Aeiri | fireblood: /msg <NICK> message; or /query <NICK> |
| 19:20.07 | jhutchins | lorenzo: You might read up on how to tune antialiasing for your display. |
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| 19:20.38 | kjs | best debian version for a late 2011 mbp ? |
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| 19:21.02 | jhutchins | !wine |
| 19:21.02 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . http://wiki.winehq.org/HowTo http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
| 19:21.12 | lorenzo | kjs, I'd go with testing, I just installed stable on a laptop and I had to backport some stuff for the driers |
| 19:21.29 | kjs | thats what i figured. |
| 19:21.31 | centrx | What? late 2011 laptop is fine |
| 19:21.39 | kjs | macbook |
| 19:21.49 | kjs | pro |
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| 19:22.07 | Aeiri | fireblood: 1.4.1 is the latest ofr wheezy, you mgiht be wanting to switch to jessie or sid |
| 19:22.24 | jhutchins | kjs: Stable. |
| 19:22.29 | fireblood | ok thanks! |
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| 19:22.47 | Abbott | how do i apt-get packages that are unstable |
| 19:22.48 | jhutchins | kjs: http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro |
| 19:22.55 | fireblood | but is it possible to run latest wine on wheezy? |
| 19:22.57 | centrx | Abbott, What are you trying to do? |
| 19:22.59 | Abbott | by default when i use apt-get it grabs the stable ones |
| 19:23.00 | kjs | jhutchins: already reading it |
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| 19:23.12 | Abbott | i am trying to install deluge-console 1.3.6 instead of 1.3.3 |
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| 19:23.15 | centrx | Abbott, If you apt-get unstable package you are likely to upgrade half your system to unstable resulting an a very unstable system |
| 19:23.19 | jhutchins | Abbott: That's what keeps it stable. |
| 19:23.33 | jhutchins | ,v deluge-console |
| 19:23.34 | centrx | Abbott, What do you need in 1.3.6? |
| 19:23.34 | judd | Package: deluge-console on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.3+git20110209.8c36830-0squeeze1; wheezy: 1.3.3-2+nmu1; jessie: 1.3.6-1.1; sid: 1.3.6-1.1 |
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| 19:23.51 | Abbott | i need deluge-console for the thin client |
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| 19:24.11 | Abbott | it doesn't have any dependencies that i would need to worry about |
| 19:24.29 | Abbott | i already have deluged 1.3.6 i just don't remember what i had to append to apt-get to get the jessie/sid version |
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| 19:24.49 | lorenzo | anyway, I wrote a mini tutorial for how to get debian working on my laptop, is it possible to make it available on the debian wiki? |
| 19:24.52 | jhutchins | !tell Abbott about ssb |
| 19:24.58 | lorenzo | I mean, how do I create a page there? |
| 19:25.05 | jhutchins | Abbott: See dpkg's message for instructions on backporting it. |
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| 19:25.31 | jhutchins | lorenzo: Get a wiki account. |
| 19:25.35 | Abbott | thank you very much |
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| 19:25.59 | Aeiri | Abbott: apt-get has a -t option for specifying sid and such... not sure if thats what you are after |
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| 19:26.48 | jhutchins | lorenzo: Probably somewhere under https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn |
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| 19:27.05 | lorenzo | ok thanks |
| 19:27.19 | jhutchins | Aeiri: Mixing releases is very bad practice, please don't help people do it. |
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| 19:27.31 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: says forbidden |
| 19:28.01 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: What does? |
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| 19:28.07 | rryoumaa | 12:26 <jhutchins> lorenzo: Probably somewhere under https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn |
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| 19:28.19 | lorenzo | works fine here |
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| 19:28.45 | rryoumaa | "Forbidden You are not allowed to access this!" |
| 19:29.21 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: Check your typing. |
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| 19:30.24 | rryoumaa | i clicked |
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| 19:31.38 | Aeiri | jhutchins: is there a rules list about what to say and not say? if this is an official #debian channel is it not okay to disclose official debian/apt features? im not trying to be an ass but i know everything i say sounds like i am... im being serious is there a rules list? i never really claimed it was a good idea, he asked how to do a very specific thing and i answered his question; generally speaking when i end up asking questions on IRC/forums and such |
| 19:32.20 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: Can you get to http://wiki.debian.org? |
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| 19:32.43 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: Can you get to http://wiki.debian.org ? (There, that won't include the ?). |
| 19:32.54 | rryoumaa | nope |
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| 19:33.11 | jhutchins | Aeiri: Hm. |
| 19:33.32 | rryoumaa | clicking already removed the ? and it doesn't work |
| 19:33.55 | rryoumaa | ah, but i have https everywhere, so i didn't really test it |
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| 19:34.21 | jelly-home | Aeiri: https://wiki.debian.org/IRC for a start; note there is a separate channel for testing and sid instead of #debian |
| 19:34.25 | jhutchins | Aeiri: There are some specific factoids, /msg dpkg frankendebian for one that refers to mixing releases. |
| 19:34.55 | jhutchins | Aeiri: As you may have noticed, we're not shy about calling you if you misstep <grin>. |
| 19:35.54 | rryoumaa | hmm, even with disabling https everywhere, it redirects to https or something? or did disabling https everywhere not disable it? |
| 19:36.32 | Aeiri | jelly-home: i dont really see rules on there, more like a list of channels that i didnt realize existed... thanks for that!; jhutchins: ill msg him in a second, i agree in principle that mixing releases is bad because of dependencies getting screwed up; jhutchins: please do! im here to learn as well :D |
| 19:36.45 | jhutchins | Aeiri: Generally we try not to guide new users too far off the standard, default track. If they don't know how to do some of the more advanced things, they're not going to be able to handle problems when they come up. |
| 19:36.47 | Aeiri | jelly-home: ah fuck i see the FAQ |
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| 19:38.04 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: I believe the wiki redirects everything to https, so if you've messed with that it may be causing the problem. |
| 19:38.13 | centrx | Aeiri, If you spoon-feed someone into breaking his system, you may be able to spoon-feed him out of it, and you might not even be here so others are left with the mess. |
| 19:38.17 | Aeiri | jhutchins: not only that, but i can see them coming back with a tainted system and wasting a bunch of people's time in this IRC trying to unhose their system... again i do agree with you its just it seemed like a more direct answer to his question; what do you propose the solution be? completely switch to sid? |
| 19:38.24 | centrx | may NOT be able to spoon-feed him out of it |
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| 19:39.13 | jelly-home | Aeiri: sorry about that, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRCChannelGuidelines is a mere three clicks away from that, if you know EXACTLY where to click |
| 19:39.26 | centrx | Aeiri, Usually the better solution for someone asking to upgrade a package to unstable is a) use wheezy-backports, b) backport it from source (see dpkg: ssb) |
| 19:39.26 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: i did not mess with anything. i click. page says forbidden. https everywehre is an extension. i disabled it. the same problem occurs. i don't think that's messing with anythin? |
| 19:40.10 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: iceweasel on stable? |
| 19:40.14 | centrx | Aeiri, In some cases, testing/unstable may be better for them. Never is mixing unstable a good idea. (frankendebian) |
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| 19:40.32 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: yes. and not frankendebian except for using debian mozilla repo. |
| 19:40.51 | rryoumaa | Aeiri: i think the idea is supposed to be to use this channel for stable and another channel for testing (and presumably frankendebian) |
| 19:40.54 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: We consider that kosher. |
| 19:40.56 | centrx | Aeiri, But before helping them upgrade to testing/unstable (here or in #debian-next), some questions need to be asked to find out what they are really trying to do and their level of expertise |
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| 19:41.26 | Aeiri | jelly-home: that is more for question askers, not question answerers... |
| 19:41.36 | jetscreamer | wtf is frankendebian :) |
| 19:41.36 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: Frankendebian is unsupported generally, because we can't know what kind of mix you ended up with. |
| 19:41.52 | Aeiri | centrx: i think a big part of it was i didnt realize there were separate channels for stable/unstable/testing |
| 19:42.08 | Aeiri | #debian just seemed generic to me |
| 19:42.12 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: testing is supported here to the extent of our knowledge, #debian-next on oftc.net tends to have more testing/sid users. |
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| 19:43.57 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: cox shouldn't be blocking anything or preventing redirection to https. That's pretty strange. Do you have any other browser like lynx installed? |
| 19:44.16 | jhutchins | !frankendebian |
| 19:44.16 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 19:44.18 | Aeiri | jhutchins: #debian-next jhutchins why exactly did they make all these channels on two different IRC servers like that? |
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| 19:45.07 | jhutchins | Aeiri: oftc.net is irc.debian.net is official, but freenode is so well known (and I belive was the original). |
| 19:45.53 | bitchxwtf | why isn't bitchx in the debian repos? |
| 19:46.07 | centrx | bitchxwtf, BitchX was removed for security reasons several years ago |
| 19:46.16 | bitchxwtf | :( |
| 19:46.18 | bitchxwtf | meh |
| 19:47.12 | bitchxwtf | now I have to use this epic stuff, gaah |
| 19:47.20 | centrx | ,bug rm ircii-pana |
| 19:47.23 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/451373 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: ircii-pana -- RoQA; security issues, abandoned upstream, unmainted»; severity: normal; opened: 2007-11-15; last modified: 2007-12-22. |
| 19:47.25 | centrx | bitchxwtf, Why not use irssii or weechat? |
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| 19:47.31 | bitchxwtf | what is irssi |
| 19:47.47 | b|os | google -> irssi |
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| 19:47.56 | centrx | bitchxwtf, irssi and weechat are both console IRC clients. They are the console IRC clients commonly used today. |
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| 19:48.04 | bitchxwtf | oh okay |
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| 19:48.51 | jhutchins | ,v exaile |
| 19:48.52 | judd | Package: exaile on i386 -- squeeze: 0.2.14+debian-2.3; squeeze-backports: 0.3.2.2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.3.2.2-3; wheezy-backports: 3.3.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.3.2-1; sid: 3.3.2-1 |
| 19:49.00 | Aeiri | it also looks like bitchx has library problems with debian for some reason |
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| 19:54.56 | Abbott | sorry, i'm following these instructions for the jessie/sid installs and I just had a question. From what i can tell, the instructions are saying to downoad the sources and compile them in two different steps instead of just installing the deb, is there a reason for that? |
| 19:55.38 | centrx | Abbott, The unstable version of the software is compiled on a different set of dependencies/versions than you have installed on your stable system |
| 19:55.56 | jhutchins | Abbott: Kinda depends on what you're installing and from where. Which instructions? |
| 19:56.05 | centrx | Abbott, Therefore, you backport it by compiling it on your own system |
| 19:56.30 | jhutchins | Abbott: Oh, right, backports, sorry, blonde moment. |
| 19:57.10 | jhutchins | Abbott: The binary .deb from the other release would be linked against different versions of some libraries and might cause problems. |
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| 20:07.05 | Abbott | wouldn't it be better to just update those libraries as well? why would that be bad? |
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| 20:07.28 | jhutchins | Abbott: Because that would break all the other packages that are linked against them. Or it might anyway. |
| 20:07.30 | Aeiri | Abbott: you'll be updating them by hand if you do it taht way, plus apt will throw a hissy fit over it |
| 20:07.39 | Aeiri | and for jhutchins' reason |
| 20:07.58 | jhutchins | Abbott: Yes, that path eventually makes it impossible to maintain the system with the package manager. |
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| 20:08.04 | bullgard4 | "~$ LANG=C man colord; No manual entry for colord." Where is the documentation for device color profiles to be found? |
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| 20:09.03 | jhutchins | bullgard4: For what system? |
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| 20:09.25 | jhutchins | bullgard4: There would only be a man page for colord if colord were a valid command. |
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| 20:09.31 | bullgard4 | jhutchins: Thinkpads T61 and X201 |
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| 20:09.53 | jhutchins | bullgard4: What do you mean by "device color profiles"? |
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| 20:10.39 | jhutchins | bullgard4: DO you mean something like the color profile for a monitor? |
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| 20:11.51 | bullgard4 | jhutchins: The Debian 7.4 DEB program package »colord« ha a short package description: "system service to manage device colour profiles -- system daemon ". |
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| 20:12.27 | Abbott | so when i use "aptitude build-dep deluge-console", is that going to build dependencies for the stable release or the unstable release? |
| 20:12.30 | bullgard4 | jhutchins: For my LCDs. |
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| 20:13.05 | fireblood | Hi, i decided that i will stick with wine 1.4.1. but now when i try to download wine using apt. i get: "You must put some 'sources' URIs in your sources.list.". I have not had any problems with downloading with apt before. I think i am getting this problem because i recently tried to change my synaptic package manager server download place. I can not revert it now. How do i fix this? |
| 20:13.06 | babilen | bullgard4: "dpkg -L colord" + brain -- take it from there |
| 20:13.09 | Aeiri | Abbott: it will install deps for the release that you are on |
| 20:13.20 | jhutchins | Abbott: No, it will get the dependencies needed to build the package. |
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| 20:14.01 | jhutchins | bullgard4: Mine uses xcmsdb. |
| 20:14.04 | Artej | hi |
| 20:14.07 | Aeiri | fireblood: check to see if any line is uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:14.19 | werdnativ | I'm not running debian, but does the testing release not have "ed" installed by default? (/bin/ed) |
| 20:14.36 | Artej | Can I disalow other applications to touch global sound volume |
| 20:14.53 | Artej | I am getting constantly earraped by flash videos |
| 20:15.00 | werdnativ | Surprised by this, so I'm asking: https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/pull/2589#issuecomment-38097640 |
| 20:15.09 | centrx | werdnativ, ed: Priority: optional |
| 20:15.10 | fireblood | is comments prenoted with '#' ? |
| 20:15.21 | Aeiri | fireblood: yes |
| 20:15.33 | fireblood | I think the first line is |
| 20:15.36 | werdnativ | centrx: thanks. I hope sed is there then... |
| 20:16.00 | Aeiri | what is the Ubuntu Studio branch? |
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| 20:16.05 | Aeiri | wrong channel |
| 20:16.07 | Aeiri | :) |
| 20:16.16 | bullgard4 | I will scrutinize '~$ dpkg -L colord'. - Thank you. |
| 20:16.21 | centrx | werdnativ, sed: Priority: required |
| 20:16.43 | MMavipc | does this look correct? echo "sleep 10;rfkill unblock all; service hostapd restart" | at now |
| 20:17.03 | werdnativ | Seems odd to me to make ed optional, but anyway... |
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| 20:18.34 | centrx | werdnativ, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577643 |
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| 20:19.44 | werdnativ | centrx: thanks for finding that, I will cope. :) |
| 20:19.52 | centrx | werdnativ, You could install it |
| 20:20.01 | centrx | werdnativ, Or switch to vim |
| 20:20.22 | Abbott | i followed the instruction from dpkg but that installed the stable release, where would I add the unstable tag |
| 20:20.25 | Abbott | or something like that |
| 20:20.30 | babilen | centrx: Leave your fancy modern tools where they are, young whippersnapper! |
| 20:20.39 | werdnativ | centrx: haha, it's for an installer shell script. So the fewer dependencies the better. |
| 20:20.42 | Abbott | i have the experimental deb and deb-src in my sources.list file |
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| 20:21.00 | _dist | I was wondering if anyone here has used the hotplug pcie function in linux kernel 3.6+ I beleive (/sys/bus/pci/slots/#/power etc). Just discovered it and I'm curious if it requires special hardware, and if you can actually power cycle a pcie card and/or slot |
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| 20:21.56 | Guest15295 | Hi. I don't comprehend how ram is distributed. When I do free -h I get results like 975 of 1000 is used, but when I run top -b -n 1 | sed '1,7d' | awk '{print \$10,\$12}' | sort -rn | head -n 5 there is like 50 in use. Can someone please explain it to me? |
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| 20:22.25 | centrx | dpkg: tell Guest15295 about free ram |
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| 20:22.59 | bullgard4 | jhutchins: Very interesting. This brings me an important step forward. I will study it carefully. -- Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 20:24.30 | Guest15295 | centrx, thanks, so I can assume that top tells me current actual memory use, right? |
| 20:24.31 | Abbott | when i run apt-cache policy deluge-console only 1.3.3 shows up so i think my deb and deb-src are wrong |
| 20:24.33 | jhutchins | Abbott: Why experimental? |
| 20:24.43 | elichai2 | hi |
| 20:24.46 | elichai2 | i want to install linux on flash drive, but the problem is that it create a lot of files in the main folder |
| 20:24.53 | Abbott | idk that's just the one i had in there from when i installed 1.3.6 webui |
| 20:24.55 | elichai2 | can i somehow put them all in a seperate folder? |
| 20:24.58 | Abbott | and deluge daemon |
| 20:25.10 | jhutchins | Abbott: You want unstable src only, then stable plus backports. |
| 20:25.13 | elichai2 | and leave only the bootable config file in the root dir |
| 20:25.16 | centrx | Guest15295, free does too, you just need to lookat the second line |
| 20:25.17 | jhutchins | Abbott: ... |
| 20:25.24 | jhutchins | !frankendebian |
| 20:25.24 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 20:25.30 | cff | huh irc.debian.org is a thing? why different server? |
| 20:25.38 | cff | PITA |
| 20:25.45 | Guest15295 | centrx, how stupd of me, thank you very much. |
| 20:25.48 | Guest15295 | Bye |
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| 20:27.01 | Abbott | there isn't a backport for 1.3.6 |
| 20:27.20 | Abbott | i didn't need the deluge console earlier so i didn't bother installing all the dependencies for it |
| 20:27.39 | Abbott | the only thing i have installed that isn't stable is the 1.3.6 webui |
| 20:27.47 | Abbott | and daemon |
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| 20:28.07 | Abbott | i can uninstall them and reinstall the stable versions if that would help me get 1.3.6 on everything |
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| 20:30.52 | centrx | Abbott, It doesn't sound like you followed the instructions from the bot for doing a source backport? |
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| 20:31.28 | Abbott | the bot's first step was to check if there is a backport and i was unable to find one |
| 20:31.37 | Abbott | this might be because i am navigating the site incorrectly |
| 20:31.50 | Abbott | this is what i want https://packages.debian.org/jessie/deluge-console |
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| 20:32.34 | Abbott | after following the bot's commands i have the stable release installed |
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| 20:32.54 | centrx | Abbott, There is no wheezy backport for deluge-console |
| 20:33.08 | centrx | Abbott, Why do you say you have the stable version installed? |
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| 20:34.09 | Outlander | anyone know how to do a multipart s3 upload from command line with resume/continue functionality? I'm transferring very large files |
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| 20:34.55 | MMavipc | Outlander might be better to ask in a more aws oriented chat |
| 20:35.11 | Outlander | any ideas on which channel might be best for that? |
| 20:35.14 | elichai2 | any one? |
| 20:35.18 | Abbott | i ran apt-get -b source deluge-console; and it looked like it built 1.3.3 but after running deluge-console --version i can see that nothing actually installed |
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| 20:36.20 | centrx | Abbott, Read the instructions again? |
| 20:36.24 | centrx | dpkg: tell Abbott about ssb |
| 20:36.32 | kenro | What's the appropriate #irc for gnutella client questions? |
| 20:36.39 | tytan | Does anyone know if "Debian 8" comes for powerpc? |
| 20:36.42 | centrx | Outlander, ##networking ? |
| 20:36.46 | elichai2 | i want to install linux on flash drive, but the problem is that it create a lot of files in the main folder |
| 20:36.48 | elichai2 | can i somehow put them all in a seperate folder? |
| 20:36.57 | elichai2 | and leave only the bootable config file in the root dir |
| 20:37.15 | fireblood | Is there anyway to reset your sources.list to deafault? |
| 20:37.50 | fireblood | default* |
| 20:38.02 | centrx | tytan, That seems to be the plan |
| 20:38.16 | tytan | fireblood: I would have made a copy of it from the beginning to encounter this problem. Copy it from an install disk ;) |
| 20:38.39 | tytan | centrx: How do you know? |
| 20:39.12 | fireblood | ok thanks! |
| 20:39.33 | centrx | tytan, I am trying to find the Bits from the Release Team that mentions it |
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| 20:39.40 | centrx | tytan, Here is the arch matrix: https://release.debian.org/jessie/arch_qualify.html |
| 20:39.55 | centrx | dpkg: tell fireblood about sources |
| 20:39.55 | kenro | Is talk of gtk-gnutella frowned upon? |
| 20:40.07 | Abbott | is this the wrong deb and deb-src line i should be adding to sources.list? |
| 20:40.07 | centrx | kenro, It's fine |
| 20:40.07 | tytan | fireblood: If you have to redownload the image take the net install image. it's the smallest and fastest to download ^^ |
| 20:40.09 | Abbott | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 20:40.44 | centrx | Abbott, That's fine, deluge-console 1.3.6 is in jessie |
| 20:41.12 | centrx | kenro, There is a #gtk-gnutella channel on Freenode, not sure if it is active |
| 20:41.20 | kenro | centrx, Well, I -have- been without a computer for a year, so forget much. |
| 20:41.58 | centrx | !computer |
| 20:41.59 | dpkg | from memory, computer is technically, this is anything that inputs data, processes it in some way, and outputs it. |
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| 20:44.22 | Abbott | the last step says install resultant debs, but doesn't give a command. do i use dpkg for that? what directory are the deb's built to |
| 20:44.29 | tytan | centrx: thank you very much |
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| 20:46.41 | tytan | Well I'm in an iMac G3 with 96MB of RAM and no GUI at the moment ^^ |
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| 20:47.46 | centrx | GUI is for losers |
| 20:48.09 | kenro | centrx, You're correct, channel exists, there are attendents, but like Sleeping Beauty's castle. Thanks, though. |
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| 20:48.24 | centrx | dpkg: tell kenro about ask |
| 20:48.38 | kenro | ??? |
| 20:48.38 | centrx | tytan, Use openbox with fbpanel for a lightweight desktop |
| 20:48.48 | tytan | centrx: lol. no. but I have no choice and I like to play around a bit sometimes ^^ |
| 20:49.44 | tytan | centrx: I'll try Debian 8 with xfce on my 600MHz iMac G3 with 1GB of RAM when it's released. |
| 20:50.06 | Abbott | i got it, they were in /etc/apt and i used dpkg -i *.deb |
| 20:50.10 | Abbott | thank you centrx |
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| 20:51.53 | tytan | centrx: Do you really lika a non GUI environment? |
| 20:52.10 | centrx | I use openbox |
| 20:52.13 | centrx | No GUI on servers |
| 20:52.57 | kenro | centrx, Eh... Look again, please. I didn't ask to ask. Still, fine... Is gnutella client supposed to have empty main window? Mine is. How do I fix this? |
| 20:52.57 | tytan | centrx: I use Crunchbang Linux on my old Laptop. So I kinda use Debian with openbox, too :D |
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| 20:53.28 | Aeiri | i3 ftw |
| 20:53.35 | centrx | kenro, I don't know, I'm just sending info your way. "If you ask, someone may answer" |
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| 20:53.37 | tumppu | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... |
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| 20:53.43 | tumppu | ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... |
| 20:53.49 | tumppu | ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... |
| 20:53.50 | centrx | !ops flooding |
| 20:53.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: centrx complains about: flooding |
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| 20:54.08 | tumppu | ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| 20:54.16 | abrotman | I don't even know what that was .. |
| 20:54.23 | centrx | Morse code |
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| 20:54.40 | tytan | what's up with tumpuu? |
| 20:54.41 | Aeiri | that isnt morse |
| 20:54.46 | up365 | obviously elementary school is out |
| 20:54.58 | JaneSmith | it sure isn't morse :) |
| 20:54.59 | tytan | Well, "/ignore tumpuu" |
| 20:55.00 | abrotman | moving on ... |
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| 20:55.23 | kenro | grrr Is there any way to alter the font in gtk-gnutella's main window? |
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| 20:56.03 | kenro | I swear getting an answer here... What, am I not specific enough? |
| 20:56.13 | centrx | I think no one knows |
| 20:56.34 | centrx | transmission is the more popular bittorrent client now |
| 20:57.05 | kenro | gt-gnutella is not a bt. |
| 20:57.06 | tytan | kenro: I don't know how to solve your problem :/ |
| 20:57.10 | abrotman | kenro: apt-cache search gtk theme .. There's a program to change a GTK2 theme |
| 20:57.51 | kenro | abrotman, Thanks. I'll try that one, then. |
| 20:58.02 | tytan | kenro: good luck |
| 20:58.14 | Aeiri | gtk-theme-switcher or something i think its called |
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| 21:00.11 | centrx | oh right... |
| 21:00.20 | tytan | When I'm running Debian 7.4 without a GUI is there a way to change the solution of the output on the display? |
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| 21:02.07 | pupil | tytan: what do you mean by change the solution? |
| 21:02.17 | centrx | *resolution |
| 21:03.17 | tytan | yes, resolution. that's what i meant, sorry. |
| 21:03.37 | tytan | default seems to be 1024x768 |
| 21:03.39 | pupil | ussually when not using GUI, debian will give the biggest resolution |
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| 21:04.08 | tytan | but I'd like to have 800x600 or 640x480 |
| 21:04.09 | abrotman | gfxmode |
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| 21:04.44 | tytan | 1024x768 is max resolution on this machine :D |
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| 21:05.37 | kenro | Which is newer, gtk-chtheme 0.3.1-5 or gtk-theme-switch 2.1.0-3? |
| 21:06.04 | abrotman | theme-switch I think |
| 21:06.16 | kenro | thanks |
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| 21:07.08 | tytan | Zzeiss: Nice nickname! |
| 21:07.10 | abrotman | kenro: though, you really just want the one that works :) |
| 21:08.00 | kenro | abrotman, True, but thanks for hopelessly complicating the situation. :P |
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| 21:08.35 | tytan | So ... No idea how to change the resolution in an non GUI environment? |
| 21:08.39 | rallyone | OMFG I just tried updating debian |
| 21:08.42 | rallyone | for the 10th time |
| 21:08.49 | rallyone | and I keep getting this popped up error message |
| 21:08.52 | rallyone | before my computer shuts down |
| 21:08.53 | rallyone | http://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg |
| 21:08.55 | rallyone | why? |
| 21:09.05 | rallyone | nobody has been able to help me |
| 21:09.12 | tytan | rallyone: let's have a look |
| 21:09.27 | rallyone | here is the screenshot |
| 21:09.28 | rallyone | http://i.imgur.com/kcQPbVA.jpg |
| 21:09.31 | tytan | rallyone: ... |
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| 21:10.30 | kenro | Seems to describe Raly1's situation perfectly... |
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| 21:11.10 | pupil | well done dondelelcaro |
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| 21:15.32 | kenro | Ls it possible to make a live file bootable image on usb key so I can doctor my parti setup? I keep getting 'file system full, no writable space' errors. Like I say, I've been without lappy for toooo long... |
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| 21:20.21 | arthurma` | hello |
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| 21:21.00 | arthurma` | Reading the docs I've seen that for installing debian from a USB pendrive I just need to *copy* (with cp) the .iso file into the media. Is that right? Is it going to make it bootable?? |
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| 21:21.29 | honestly | does debian have a socks5 proxy server package? |
| 21:21.44 | tytan | arthurma`: I'd say no. use dd |
| 21:22.15 | pupil | arthurma`: i'd recommend to use unetbootin |
| 21:22.15 | elichai2 | hi |
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| 21:22.30 | elichai2 | when i connect an flash drive it's auto mount it as Read only |
| 21:22.39 | elichai2 | how can i change it to auto mount as RW? |
| 21:22.44 | tytan | unetbootin worked only a few times for me :/ |
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| 21:23.16 | ompaul | !unetbootin |
| 21:23.17 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 21:23.19 | kenro | tytan, So if I dd gparted live image to usb key, this will allow me access to unmounted parti tables? |
| 21:23.33 | arthurma` | tytan and pupil: so why the docs said that to me?? :) |
| 21:23.39 | pupil | tytan: well, it's reliable enough for me |
| 21:23.46 | arthurma` | I'll go with unetbootin. |
| 21:23.59 | honestly | debian has dante \o/ |
| 21:24.03 | ompaul | !unetbootin |
| 21:24.03 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 21:24.04 | pupil | elichai2: how do you make the automount? |
| 21:24.09 | ompaul | woops |
| 21:24.23 | pupil | !dante |
| 21:24.24 | dpkg | hmm... dante is at http://velocity.editthispage.com and mesveldt@slc.edu or indistinguishable from a Computer Algebra System |
| 21:25.04 | elichai2 | pupil: i didn't made the automount |
| 21:25.12 | elichai2 | it's just auto lol |
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| 21:25.31 | tytan | arthurma`: which operating system do you use? |
| 21:25.48 | pupil | elichai2: do you make additional config iin fstab? |
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| 21:27.04 | ompaul | arthurma`: when unetbootin doesn't work for you please follow one of the methods the bot says just /msg dpkg usbinstall |
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| 21:28.43 | kenro | It's so frustrating when tried-and-true staples develop insoluble problems. |
| 21:29.05 | elichai2 | pupil: i see that i did add something to fstab |
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| 21:29.10 | elichai2 | '/dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0' |
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| 21:29.38 | elichai2 | but it's mounting more than one USB so i guess it's not connected to this line |
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| 21:31.00 | pupil | if you install debian from usb, that line will almost always added to fstab, cmiiw |
| 21:31.13 | pupil | so, i suggest to remove that line |
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| 21:32.36 | elichai2 | pupil: removed it, what now? |
| 21:32.50 | pupil | reboot, and then try again |
| 21:33.11 | elichai2 | really? |
| 21:33.13 | elichai2 | no way without rebooting |
| 21:33.16 | elichai2 | ? |
| 21:33.25 | pupil | hem, try mount -a |
| 21:33.53 | elichai2 | still read only |
| 21:33.58 | elichai2 | kk i will try rebooting :) |
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| 21:34.06 | dondelelcaro | there's no need to reboot |
| 21:34.18 | elichai2 | dondelelcaro: so? |
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| 21:34.56 | dondelelcaro | elichai2: either unplug the drive and plug it back in, or remount it rw |
| 21:35.11 | dondelelcaro | elichai2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/usb0 for example |
| 21:35.13 | jhutchins | Anybody know where exaile keeps it's database these days? .exaile isn't it any more. |
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| 21:36.07 | elichai2 | dondelelcaro: didn't worke |
| 21:36.09 | pupil | check man exaile |
| 21:36.12 | elichai2 | *work |
| 21:36.19 | pupil | jhutchins: check man exaile |
| 21:36.32 | pupil | maybe there is some info in there |
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| 21:36.45 | elichai2 | what do you mean? |
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| 21:40.19 | jhutchins | pupil: Nope, just command line options, and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc/exaile either. |
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| 21:41.03 | MrPopinjay | Hello all. What package will allow me to view flash videos on youtube? I am begrudgingly willing to use non-free |
| 21:41.09 | arthurma` | tytan: linux (mint) |
| 21:41.12 | arthurma` | ompaul: thanks! |
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| 21:41.26 | jhutchins | elichai2: You are using gnome? |
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| 21:41.41 | jordanm | !tell MrPopinjay about flash |
| 21:41.57 | MrPopinjay | These bots are great. ty |
| 21:42.25 | elichai2 | jhutchins: nope, i'm using lightdm+fluxbox |
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| 21:42.46 | jordanm | MrPopinjay: another note is that proprietary google-chrome comes with it |
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| 21:43.11 | MrPopinjay | I used to use chrome for that reason, but I've switched to firefox as it has better vim style plugins |
| 21:43.16 | MrPopinjay | oh well |
| 21:43.40 | jhutchins | elichai2: You might be interested in the usb-perms package. |
| 21:43.46 | jhutchins | ,info usb-perms |
| 21:43.48 | judd | No package named 'usb-perms' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 21:44.02 | elichai2 | ouch |
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| 21:44.27 | jhutchins | elichai2: Yeah, might be from an older version, we need to clean up the reference bot. |
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| 21:44.52 | elichai2 | jhutchins: so it is in debian repo? |
| 21:45.12 | jhutchins | elichai2: Did you mean that when you told it to remount rw it still isn't rw? Or is it RW for root only? |
| 21:45.28 | elichai2 | jhutchins: E: Unable to locate package usb-perms |
| 21:45.46 | elichai2 | ammm... it's default rw for root only |
| 21:46.04 | elichai2 | lol i frogot that |
| 21:46.18 | elichai2 | the problem is it's rw for root only, how can i change that |
| 21:46.32 | jhutchins | Yeah, I don't know what genius thought that was a good idea for a fuse mount. |
| 21:46.33 | jhutchins | man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, fmask, dmask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like conv=auto,uid=<user>,gid=<group>,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 into your fstab's mount option field. |
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| 21:47.13 | jhutchins | fuse really should take care of that, I haven't been able to find out why it doesn't. |
| 21:47.18 | elichai2 | jhutchins: seriously?! |
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| 21:47.24 | elichai2 | nothing simplier?! |
| 21:47.38 | elichai2 | that will auto do this to all of the drives |
| 21:47.48 | elichai2 | (i don't want to do it for a specific one) |
| 21:47.49 | jhutchins | elichai2: There might be options in the filemanager if you're using gnome. |
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| 21:48.07 | elichai2 | jhutchins: as i said, no gnome :) |
| 21:48.19 | jhutchins | elichai2: If it's the same device each time then yes. If you want different options for different drives use the UUID. |
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| 21:48.42 | elichai2 | jhutchins: it's not the same one, it's any flash drive that i insert |
| 21:49.26 | jhutchins | elichai2: The same port will ususally label it as the same device no matter which drive it is. If not, or if you use more than one port, multiple fstab lines. |
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| 21:50.42 | elichai2 | jhutchins: i want to do this to all of the ports |
| 21:51.29 | pupil | elichai2: does the flash drive formated as fat / ntfs?? |
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| 21:51.58 | elichai2 | fat32 |
| 21:52.06 | jhutchins | elichai2: See also this: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=692 - second post from the end. |
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| 21:52.45 | pupil | i installed my debian from usb, that's why i have to edit config in fstab in order to avoid problem with fat n ntfs |
| 21:52.58 | arthurma` | ompaul: unetbootin is freezing and dpkg doesn't know about usbinstall... anything else I should try? |
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| 21:53.47 | jhutchins | elichai2: Other sources suggest that the pmount package may solve this. |
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| 21:53.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell arthurma` -about usb install |
| 21:53.59 | pupil | arthurma`: what's the error in unetbootin? |
| 21:54.16 | tytan | I need to change the default keyboard layout! I need to switch from en (qwerty) tu de :( |
| 21:54.18 | elichai2 | jhutchins: i removed that line already... |
| 21:54.30 | tytan | *to de |
| 21:54.34 | babilen | arthurma`: Essentially "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" (with /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sdb and your USB stick) |
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| 21:55.22 | ompaul | arthurma`: dpkg sorry two words usb install /msg dpkg usb install |
| 21:56.10 | ompaul | arthurma`: basically it will end up like this cat something.iso > /dev/sdb <<< where that b is the letter of the usbstick and NOT mounted and no number is involved overwrites the stick and makes it bootable and useful for installs |
| 21:56.30 | elichai2 | jhutchins: http://paste.debian.net/88619/ |
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| 22:01.13 | elichai2 | i fixed half of the problem |
| 22:01.21 | elichai2 | i found out i wasn't in fuse group |
| 22:01.42 | elichai2 | so i added my self, and now i can write only on one of my USB |
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| 22:02.14 | elichai2 | maybe i need to reboot |
| 22:02.36 | jhutchins | elichai2: SOmebody may have solved this, but if they have I haven't found it yet. |
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| 22:03.04 | xmj | Hi! |
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| 22:03.16 | elichai2 | jhutchins: fixed :) |
| 22:03.21 | xmj | I heard you guys ship liblinebreak; could you tell me where I'd find their upstream? |
| 22:04.02 | zeroemission | i did ssh-keygen i created a "authorized_keys" in .ssh folder the question is can i now remove pernamently the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub files ? |
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| 22:04.30 | Aeiri | zeroemission: NO |
| 22:04.44 | Aeiri | authorized_keys has only your public key |
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| 22:04.58 | Aeiri | to know who is authorized to connect to that server via that key to that user |
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| 22:05.17 | Aeiri | id_rsa is your private key that you use to start your connections, you need to hold on to that |
| 22:05.26 | petemc | xmj: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/libl/liblinebreak/liblinebreak_1.2-1_copyright |
| 22:05.29 | Aeiri | id_rsa.pub is for adding to other authorized_keys files on other servers |
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| 22:06.07 | bigterd | any idea why a raid5 array would grow at 20mb/sec then jump to 100megs/sec? |
| 22:06.49 | zeroemission | Aeiri but basically i don't need that id_rsa and id_rsa.pub now it's just been created by the keygen and they are useless now for me i already have a private key on my pc and i wrote to authorized_keys |
| 22:07.59 | Aeiri | zeroemission: if you already had a private key, why did you generate a new one? |
| 22:08.47 | Aeiri | zeroemission: especailly if you are just going to delete it... |
| 22:09.05 | zeroemission | Aeiri for rsa key access to work i basically need only the authorized_keys and a private key in my pc no ? |
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| 22:10.43 | Aeiri | zeroemission: okay, you ssh-keygen to generate a private/public key on your client machine, you copy that public key over to your remote machine's authorized_keys file.... from there, when you run "ssh remote.com" it will look for id_rsa, read it, and use it to connect to the remote server... if you want to reuse the key for multiple servers, you keep ahold of id_rsa.pub to copy to those at a later date... if you dont need to, keeping ahold of it isnt any l |
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| 22:11.08 | Aeiri | but they have to match, so if you have two private keys, you have to make sure you are using the private/public keys that match |
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| 22:12.20 | Abbott | can someone help me with the rename program? I want to remove all bracketed strings in a list of filenames but i'm having trouble |
| 22:12.55 | Abbott | i'm using 'rename 's/\[*\]//g'' but it doesn't seem to be working |
| 22:13.27 | Abbott | sorry there's a wildcard after that |
| 22:13.37 | Abbott | 'rename 's/\[*\]//g' *.mkv' |
| 22:14.07 | Aeiri | rename 's/\[.*\]//g' *.mkv |
| 22:14.10 | Aeiri | forgot the . |
| 22:14.40 | Abbott | what does the . do exactly? |
| 22:15.11 | Aeiri | well with "\[*\]" you are looking for "[]". "[[]", "[[[]", "[[[[]", etc |
| 22:15.20 | zeroemission | Aeiri how i can connect from another pc to my ssh ? like ssh myuser@myhost.com and where i put the rsa key ? o.O |
| 22:15.36 | Aeiri | with "\[.*\]", "." matches anything, so you are looking for "[<ANYTHING>]" |
| 22:15.47 | arthurma` | pupil: it freezes. |
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| 22:16.21 | arthurma` | babilen: just copying seems strange, no? It never worked since 1999 (first time I used linux). Is it supposed to work now? I'd be surprised! |
| 22:16.34 | arthurma` | (positively) |
| 22:16.58 | Aeiri | zeroemission: so you have machina A with SSH server and machine B with ssh client; ssh client needs private key (id_rsa) and might as well have public key for record keeping and future use (id_rsa.pub), ssh server needs ".ssh/authorized_keys" to have the public key listed in it |
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| 22:18.00 | Abbott | sorry i don't mean to annoy you, but could you break it down a little more? i see it: look for \[ which is just "[" then * (wildcard) then another \] which is "]". how does the \[*\] turn into [], [[], [[[]? |
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| 22:18.21 | Abbott | and thank you very much, the addition of a dot worked :) |
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| 22:19.28 | nfisher | H'all!! i have the issue, that chromium and mplayer is _not_ giving me sound out on my default device whilse vlc-player is.. can anyone give me a hand real quick? |
| 22:19.44 | zeroemission | if i create git init --bare as root the ownership from the folder will change? |
| 22:19.45 | jelly-home | Abbott: * is not a wildcard. * means "zero or more of the thing left of *" |
| 22:20.14 | Aeiri | Abbott: * isnt a wildcard, its a repeater... it takes the last character and matches it 0 to infinite times.... "." is a single character wildcard in regexp/PCRE, so ".*" is a single digit wildcard matched 0 to infinite times |
| 22:20.34 | jelly-home | Abbott: regular expression syntax is different from shell globbing syntax, just to make things interesting |
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| 22:20.43 | Aeiri | zeroemission: i dont think so, but the .git folder will be owned by root and git commands wont be runnable by users unless you change the perms |
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| 22:22.08 | Abbott | oh so * is a wildcard in shell but not necessarily in the calls of commands |
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| 22:23.03 | Aeiri | Abbott: correct, commands can do what they want with their input, and rename uses PCRE regexps as input |
| 22:23.12 | centrx | Abbott, Regexp and shell expansions are "entirely" different |
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| 22:23.42 | Abbott | thank you guys very much for explaining that to me, it's been hard to find info on this for whatever reason |
| 22:24.29 | Abbott | man doesn't explain the calls in the /// either, like the s and g as in s/replace this/with this/g. i learned that s is substitute and g is for all cases found, but i haven't found an explanation for the other possible calls |
| 22:24.35 | Abbott | i think y was one of them? |
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| 22:24.50 | Aeiri | Abbott: http://www.pcre.org/pcre.txt might help |
| 22:24.51 | nfisher | nobody :(? |
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| 22:25.48 | Aeiri | nfisher: whats the output of `aplay -L`? |
| 22:25.54 | xmj | nfisher: what happens if you cat random files to /dev/dsp ? |
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| 22:26.02 | Abbott | cool i'll look through this now |
| 22:26.04 | Abbott | thank you very much! |
| 22:26.48 | Morou | Hi i have debian sid on thinkpad T60 with intel chhipset. I had xfce but I installed cinnamon to and when I turn on cinnamon enviroment my debian are frozen. Mouse coursor moving but cant do enythink alse. What you think? what is the problem? On xfce this problem wasnt |
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| 22:28.03 | Morou | maybe its cinnamon problem? I used 2D mode of cinnamon too and problem was too |
| 22:28.30 | nfisher | Aeiri, http://paste.debian.net/plain/88623 |
| 22:28.42 | nfisher | xmj, right |
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| 22:31.35 | nfisher | Aeiri, ideas? |
| 22:31.47 | tytan | I did a netinstall and my keyboard layout is wrong. how do I change it? from en_US to de_DE |
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| 22:32.26 | Aeiri | nfisher: thinking/testing |
| 22:33.12 | nfisher | Aeiri, it worked just fine up to today |
| 22:33.19 | tytan | It#s so frustrating :( |
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| 22:33.42 | Aeiri | nfisher: does `mplayer -mixer sysdefault file.ogg` seem to do anything? |
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| 22:34.37 | nfisher | Aeiri, silence |
| 22:35.37 | Aeiri | nfisher: going to test xmj's idea, `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` (Ctrl+C) after a few seconds to stop |
| 22:35.57 | xmj | what took so long? :p |
| 22:36.20 | nfisher | hm? what does that do? |
| 22:36.22 | Aeiri | i wanted to see if it was pulseaudio's fault first, but sysdefault should bypass pulse |
| 22:36.45 | xmj | it generates random data and puts it through your soundcard. white-noise, like |
| 22:36.57 | Aeiri | yeah it will sound like static |
| 22:37.00 | Aeiri | if it works |
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| 22:37.22 | nfisher | permission denied (sudo) |
| 22:37.22 | leoleo11 | Hello |
| 22:37.39 | leoleo11 | would using the terminal use less batery than GUI? |
| 22:37.46 | leoleo11 | i mean ttys |
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| 22:38.19 | Aeiri | nfisher: k then pulse has control over /dev/dsp probably |
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| 22:38.29 | xmj | uhm |
| 22:38.41 | mjt | pulse doesnt use /dev/dsp |
| 22:38.44 | zykotick9 | leoleo11: yes, but VTs are weak... <- coming from someone who used VTs ONLY for months... |
| 22:38.47 | xmj | Aeiri: i'm not sure about debian's usermodel. do you have to be in some audio group to use /dev/dsp ? |
| 22:39.04 | niteye | hi there, anyone knows if its possible to run skype and everything for bitlbee on an ARM using multiarch ? |
| 22:39.17 | Aeiri | xmj: if he used sudo, root will be able to access /dev/dsp... but yeah he should be in an audio group to use it as a user |
| 22:39.28 | Aeiri | xmj: he mentioned sudo |
| 22:39.39 | Aeiri | mjt: and thats why im always screwing up with pulse :) |
| 22:39.40 | xmj | well, is he in *wheel* ? |
| 22:39.45 | nfisher | used sudo, yes |
| 22:39.50 | xmj | good |
| 22:40.14 | themill | xmj: debian doesn't use the wheel group |
| 22:40.28 | zykotick9 | doesn't even have a wheel group |
| 22:40.28 | Aeiri | maybe some other sound server is installed and is controlling /dev/dsp........ trying to think |
| 22:40.45 | Aeiri | zykotick9: neither do i :) |
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| 22:42.36 | Aeiri | nfisher: `lsof | grep /dev/dsp` |
| 22:42.37 | zerick | is it necessary to reboot server while setting ACL's on /etc/fstab? I'm using Debian Wheezy |
| 22:42.46 | nfisher | Umh.. vlc, as i said, is giving me output.. its configured to use "ALSA ausio output"/"device SB!.." if thats of any help |
| 22:43.11 | nfisher | audio* |
| 22:43.19 | Aeiri | nfisher: vlc might be controlling the /dev/dsp... try switching that to pulseaudio instead of alsa |
| 22:43.41 | Aeiri | although i would think dmix would take care of it... not sure |
| 22:43.52 | nfisher | Aeiri, switched; silence |
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| 22:44.19 | nfisher | Aeiri, still permission denied on 'sudo cat..' |
| 22:44.20 | Aeiri | nfisher: what about the lsof? |
| 22:44.56 | nfisher | Aeiri, output: none |
| 22:45.58 | Aeiri | nfisher: `grep -E '^audio:' /etc/group` |
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| 22:46.29 | nfisher | Aeiri, audio:x:29:USER,pulse |
| 22:47.19 | Aeiri | thats correct.. hmm |
| 22:47.41 | nfisher | i didnt hange anything (i know of, obviously) since the last reboot.. i dont get it |
| 22:47.50 | nfisher | change* |
| 22:48.08 | Aeiri | this is going to sound dumb, but are headphones plugged in? |
| 22:48.21 | nfisher | Aeiri, no :) |
| 22:49.47 | nfisher | hmm i played with the soundkeys on my keyboard as i can remember |
| 22:50.05 | Aeiri | nfisher: HDMI plugged in? |
| 22:50.17 | Brody | Have any of you guys installed wordpress because there seems to be a debian specific Permissions issue that arises. Wordpress installs with the default 2013 theme but not the 2014 one. When I try to update it cannot create directories. I have been on this for 5 hours and not found a solution and Ive asked in #wordpress |
| 22:50.21 | abrotman | nfisher: gnome3? |
| 22:50.25 | abrotman | nfisher: and jessie? |
| 22:50.28 | nfisher | now i had it muted as i just noticed.. but unmuting does not do the trick :/ |
| 22:50.37 | nfisher | abrotman, mate |
| 22:50.45 | nfisher | Aeiri, nope |
| 22:50.55 | abrotman | nfisher: which versoin of Debian? |
| 22:51.25 | nfisher | abrotman, Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 22:51.35 | abrotman | that's not a version of Debian |
| 22:51.49 | civillian | or it's a very old version :) |
| 22:52.06 | nfisher | wheezy then |
| 22:52.18 | nfisher | :S |
| 22:52.25 | abrotman | nfisher: MATE isn't part of Wheezy, which distro are you running? |
| 22:52.47 | nfisher | abrotman, Wheezy, installed mate manually |
| 22:53.01 | abrotman | nfisher: have you tried to see if your problem still exists with a supported WM/DE? |
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| 22:53.45 | nfisher | abrotman, it did not since the last reboot as a matter of fact.. what is a supported WM/DE? |
| 22:53.48 | Aeiri | well vlc plays audio just fine, its chromium/mplayer that are having problems so audio should be fine... when he switched to pulse from vlc it went silent |
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| 22:53.54 | abrotman | nfisher: not MATE |
| 22:54.10 | nmschulte | I want one of my machines to use NTP to keep its time accurate. Do I need to install the whole ntp package (which sets up an NTP server daemon) to make this happen? |
| 22:54.11 | abrotman | nfisher: is pulse in use? Do you need to be in a pulse group? |
| 22:54.11 | nfisher | abrotman, it worked jsut fine yesterday |
| 22:54.21 | abrotman | nfisher: so what changed since your previous reboot? |
| 22:54.27 | abrotman | nmschulte: yes |
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| 22:54.52 | abrotman | nfisher: did you audit your package installatoin logs in /var/log/ ? |
| 22:55.05 | nfisher | abrotman, thats what i dont know.. i cant think of anything but playing with keyboard-hotkeys for sound (but i reversed everythibng) |
| 22:55.21 | nmschulte | abrotman: Thanks. Do you know if the default configuration is setup for my "typical" scenario? That is, I don't have to worry about configuring it to restrict the service to only the localhost? |
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| 22:57.00 | nfisher | let me just reboot real quick you guys, i have an idea... |
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| 22:57.06 | nfisher | brb |
| 22:57.14 | abrotman | nmschulte: the default config file should be fine |
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| 22:57.55 | AndreeeCZ | hi, whats current kernel version in wheezy? |
| 22:58.15 | themill | ,kernel --release wheezy |
| 22:58.16 | judd | Available kernel versions are: wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2) |
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| 22:58.26 | AndreeeCZ | thank you |
| 22:58.45 | themill | (you'll find 3.12 or 3.13 in wheezy-backports) |
| 22:59.12 | AndreeeCZ | themill, how are things with linux-ck in wheezy? |
| 22:59.22 | themill | no idea |
| 22:59.23 | AndreeeCZ | are there some unofficial repos for that? |
| 22:59.25 | AndreeeCZ | aha ok |
| 23:01.57 | bigterd | hey debian dudes, what config defines loop devices? i need more. /etc/modules.conf doesn't fit this distro |
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| 23:04.44 | abrotman | bigterd: which loop devices? |
| 23:05.06 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.06 | Aeiri | bigterd: `mknod /dev/loopX b 7 X` works for me |
| 23:05.16 | nfisher | alright now its working again OO.. i did unmute AND reboot (since i muted before reboot).. strange enough that the unmute-key did not work in session (graphical indication was given though).. thanks a bunch for your time guys! Aeiri abrotman xmj |
| 23:05.25 | abrotman | uh, okay |
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| 23:06.55 | xmj | gnu's not unix, apparently reboot works on non-unix :p |
| 23:07.12 | bigterd | abrotman: the ones in /loop? i need 30 or so loops to files for testing raid stuff |
| 23:07.28 | abrotman | bigterd: you could have meant a network loopback .. |
| 23:07.29 | bigterd | i modified /etc/modules and removed/reloaded loop, still shows 7 |
| 23:07.33 | abrotman | anyway .. |
| 23:07.36 | bigterd | abrotman: good point |
| 23:07.39 | abrotman | bigterd: /etc/modprobe.conf ? |
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| 23:09.06 | Aeiri | bigterd: after mknod, rmmod, modprobe the loop8 i made was still there and working |
| 23:09.06 | bigterd | abrotman: modprob.conf doesn't exist in /etc. |
| 23:09.18 | bigterd | trying Brigo 's post. |
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| 23:13.05 | bigterd | i'm an idiot or missing something obvious. |
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| 23:16.43 | Aeiri | lynx is better :P |
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| 23:17.34 | DUKENUKEM | im using qemu to emulate an ARM binary on my x86 machine. its complaining that it wants GLIBC_2.0 (and I have a newer version). is there any easy / debian way to either trick it into using my newer version or obtain an older version and not completely trash my system? |
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| 23:18.15 | abrotman | bigterd: you can create it ? |
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| 23:21.33 | Aeiri | abrotman: like my mknod example? |
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| 23:24.40 | zeroemission | how i can add a rsa key to my client ? |
| 23:24.48 | zeroemission | so i can connect to a user without password |
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| 23:25.36 | Aeiri | zeroemission: ssh-keygen like you did already on the client, copy public key to server in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys... was there an error when you tried this before? |
| 23:25.38 | zykotick9 | zeroemission: check out "ssh-copy-id" |
| 23:26.07 | Brigo | !tell zeroemission about ssh without password |
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| 23:26.58 | zeroemission | because im using git and want to push with a added rsa key but they told me its the same as on a unix ... so i ask here im no clue what they mean my machine is windows .... |
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| 23:29.28 | Aeiri | zeroemission: lead with that next time... so you ssh-keygen'd on the server and not the client? |
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| 23:29.43 | Aeiri | zeroemission: use puttygen to generate your keys |
| 23:31.40 | DeepBlue | A drowned drayman was hoisted on to the slab. |
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| 23:32.04 | DeepBlue | Someone had jammed a lavender aster |
| 23:32.06 | DeepBlue | between his teeth. |
| 23:32.09 | abrotman | Aeiri: no, i meant the file |
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| 23:32.32 | zeroemission | Aeiri i used ssh-keygen on the server yes |
| 23:33.09 | zeroemission | Aeiri it should be the opposite ? |
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| 23:35.02 | Aeiri | abrotman: oh modprobe.conf, yeah |
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| 23:35.23 | Aeiri | zeroemission: generate the keys on the client, copy the PUBLIC key onto the server into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 23:35.46 | Aeiri | zeroemission: somewhere in putty there will be an option to select which private keys to use for authentication, point it to the generated key |
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| 23:37.34 | DeepBlue | When bones and flesh have finished their business together, |
| 23:37.35 | DeepBlue | we lay them carefully, in positions they’re willing to keep, |
| 23:37.37 | DeepBlue | and cover them over. |
| 23:37.38 | DeepBlue | Their eyes and ours won’t meet anymore. We hope. |
| 23:37.53 | cafuego | If you used puttygen you need to make sure you copy the key in the correct format. |
| 23:38.09 | cafuego | and that the permissions on ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are locked down properly. |
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| 23:41.33 | Aeiri | zeroemission: http://katsande.com/using-puttygen-to-generate-ssh-private-public-keys |
| 23:41.54 | zeroemission | Aeiri i have to use ssh not putty since i installed git to use ssh not putty |
| 23:42.01 | zeroemission | Aeiri but np i already did it |
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| 23:42.45 | zeroemission | Aeiri i mean i generated now id_rsa and id_rsa.pub on my widnows (client) now i need to place the id_rsa.pub on my server (debian) ? |
| 23:43.06 | Aeiri | zeroemission: yes |
| 23:43.20 | Aeiri | and as cafuego, make sure the permissions are set right (as the article i linked points out) |
| 23:43.26 | zeroemission | Aeiri and where inside the debian please ? |
| 23:43.37 | Aeiri | zeroemission: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 23:43.58 | Aeiri | read the article, it explains it better |
| 23:44.34 | zeroemission | Aeiri ~/ means root ? or you mean my user like /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys |
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| 23:45.19 | Aeiri | zeroemission: /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 23:45.34 | Aeiri | zeroemission: / is root, ~ is home |
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| 23:48.30 | arthurma` | it worked! Thank you guys for all the help! |
| 23:48.33 | Aeiri | to which question? |
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| 23:49.31 | AndreeeCZ | hi, trying to install debian next to an existing win7 on a separate partition (partitions already laid down) |
| 23:49.42 | AndreeeCZ | but the partition manager doesnt see the windows partition |
| 23:49.46 | AndreeeCZ | why could that be? |
| 23:50.08 | Aeiri | what partition manager |
| 23:50.20 | AndreeeCZ | aegis, in the installer |
| 23:50.34 | AndreeeCZ | uh |
| 23:50.37 | AndreeeCZ | Aeiri, ^ |
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| 23:54.20 | average | would it be ok to re-install dpkg ? apt-get install --reinstall dpkg |
| 23:54.25 | average | or is that a bad move ? |
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| 23:55.09 | AndreeeCZ | Aeiri, mind you this was originally formatted by the win7 installer |
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| 23:55.12 | AndreeeCZ | could that be the cause? |
| 23:56.36 | Aeiri | i dont know how aegis works... its been too long since ive installed debian. that being said the partitions should show up normally |
| 23:56.38 | average | is it ok to reinstall dpkg ? |
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| 23:57.57 | Brody | Well, I finally went to the last resort of changing the permission of wp-content to 777. This was successful. After the install i turned the permission back down to its original setting. But wow not cool. |
| 23:58.15 | AndreeeCZ | Aeiri, aegis is just a random user here :D |
| 23:58.37 | kdog | average: what is going on with dpkg? |
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| 23:59.39 | Aeiri | AndreeeCZ: ohhhhhh i thought that was the name of the partition manager lol |
