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| 00:01.47 | _riz_ | so I'm trying to figure out why /etc/network/interfaces on this beaglebone debian image isn't doing the same as /etc/network/interfaces on the raspbian image I've been using up until today |
| 00:02.04 | abrotman | beaglebone? |
| 00:02.08 | _riz_ | I have |
| 00:02.10 | _riz_ | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 00:02.10 | _riz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.11 | _riz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.18 | _riz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.21 | _riz_ | abrotman: yes |
| 00:02.23 | abrotman | _riz_: please use #raspbian |
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| 00:02.46 | _riz_ | well, except that raspbian is not what I'm having trouble with |
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| 00:03.00 | _riz_ | let me rephrase |
| 00:03.18 | abrotman | what the hell is beaglebone? |
| 00:03.31 | abrotman | I can't imagine your wireless card is eth0 ? |
| 00:03.31 | _riz_ | what's the official way to launch wpa_supplicant for 802.1X on a wired ethernet? |
| 00:03.38 | _riz_ | no wireless. wired. |
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| 00:03.48 | abrotman | so you're using wpa on your wired card? |
| 00:03.48 | _riz_ | I need to do 802.1x authentication |
| 00:03.51 | _riz_ | yes. |
| 00:03.55 | _riz_ | for 802.1x |
| 00:04.07 | abrotman | did you set "allow-hotplug eth0" ? |
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| 00:04.20 | _riz_ | what does allow-hotplug do? |
| 00:04.30 | _riz_ | eth0 shows up |
| 00:04.34 | _riz_ | so that's not the issue |
| 00:04.37 | abrotman | it's like "auto eth0" but allows hotplugging |
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| 00:05.25 | abrotman | man 5 interfaces if you need a reference |
| 00:06.06 | Sia- | i'm running also debian wheezy on imac intel (7.1) with Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV630, everything woking like a charm. Just after suspend can't load the driver correctly again happening this http://postimg.org/image/ctpots04p/ |
| 00:06.18 | Sia- | any idea what's wrong? |
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| 00:06.42 | KaaK | can distribution names have slashes in them? e.g. 'squeeze/updates' |
| 00:06.51 | _riz_ | ok interfaces(5) will probably have what I want |
| 00:07.02 | _riz_ | didn't expect decent man pages from linux ;) |
| 00:07.03 | _riz_ | thanks |
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| 00:07.44 | abrotman | as opposed to what? |
| 00:08.11 | wood_quinn_ | I'd really like to use tkgate to do digital circuit simulation, but it A) Complains about corrupted files when saving (seeminly incorrectly) and B) Crashes. I'm using tkgate-1.8.7-4 and Debian testing. |
| 00:08.26 | wood_quinn_ | Has anyone else experienced, or better still solved, these issues? |
| 00:09.01 | centrx | KaaK, That is the standard naming scheme... |
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| 00:09.45 | centrx | wood_quinn_, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554464 |
| 00:10.22 | petn-randall | wood_quinn_: testing and newer are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. This channel is for (old)stable only. See you there! |
| 00:10.23 | wood_quinn_ | I've already followed those steps and still have the problems. |
| 00:10.33 | wood_quinn_ | Oh OFTC. |
| 00:10.46 | wood_quinn_ | I had joined #debian-next here and got forwarded. |
| 00:10.58 | petn-randall | wood_quinn_: :) |
| 00:11.10 | petn-randall | Yeah, it's a little tricky that we have #debian on two networks. |
| 00:12.06 | KaaK | centrx: are distributions containing slashes relatively new? on a squeeze box, i get an apt-get error when updating a repository containing slashes |
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| 00:12.57 | petn-randall | KaaK: It's not a matter if there are slashes or not, but a question of "Does this repository actually exist?" |
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| 00:13.03 | KaaK | centrx: specifically a warning about conflicting distributions |
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| 00:14.23 | babilen | qpls_: They are managed automagically by inssrv, but you can take a look at them in /etc/rc*.d as they are executed in alphabetical order. Do not edit those links manually though. |
| 00:14.25 | KaaK | petn-randall: the distribution was setup by me using reprepro and very certainly exists -- it grabs the Release and other incidcies |
| 00:14.51 | petn-randall | KaaK: What is the error message then? |
| 00:15.30 | KaaK | petn-randall: 'W: Conflicting distribution:' |
| 00:15.47 | petn-randall | KaaK: Can you paste the full output to http://paste.debian.net? |
| 00:15.55 | petn-randall | KaaK: including the command |
| 00:15.58 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 00:15.58 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 00:17.39 | unholycrab | is there a way to see the size of packages in aptitude that are not installed yet? |
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| 00:19.02 | abrotman | unholycrab: aptitude show |
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| 00:20.07 | KaaK | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/74880/ |
| 00:20.14 | unholycrab | perfect abrotman thanks |
| 00:21.35 | wood_quinn_ | ... |
| 00:21.41 | wood_quinn_ | #debian-next is invite-only? |
| 00:21.57 | n-st | is there some smaller alternative to dig and nslookup from dnsutils? |
| 00:22.23 | abrotman | wood_quinn_: irc.oftc.net |
| 00:22.29 | wood_quinn_ | dig is 118K |
| 00:22.30 | abrotman | n-st: those are pretty small |
| 00:22.34 | wood_quinn_ | abrotman: That's where I am. |
| 00:22.41 | abrotman | wood_quinn_: no, this is freenode |
| 00:22.44 | n-st | they've got 42MB of dependencies... |
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| 00:23.04 | abrotman | n-st: those are basic libraries |
| 00:23.07 | wood_quinn_ | Dependencies that are required for everything else on your machine to work too. |
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| 00:23.53 | n-st | abrotman: there's stuff like bind9-host and geoip-database among the dependencies -- i'm probably ignorant, but i don't see their use when i just want to query a dns server... |
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| 00:24.53 | abrotman | n-st: try without recommends |
| 00:25.05 | KaaK | petn-randall: the apt-get client is running on emdebian squeeze -- apt 0.8.10.3 for armel compiled on Apr 15 2011 21:19:53 |
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| 00:26.01 | n-st | abrotman: 5.4MB. thank you :) |
| 00:26.29 | abrotman | n-st: if this is an on-going concern, you can set your preferences to always act that way unless you override it |
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| 00:28.19 | n-st | abrotman: just create a new file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/, right? |
| 00:28.22 | JoeE | Is this the appropriate place to ask questions related to running debian on an HP Proliant server? |
| 00:28.35 | dondelelcaro | JoeE: sure |
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| 00:29.45 | petn-randall | KaaK: Can't check this as I don't have a squeeze machine within reach. It surely works with wheezy. |
| 00:29.49 | petn-randall | !emdebian |
| 00:29.49 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
| 00:30.08 | petn-randall | KaaK: You might also ask there ^^^ |
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| 00:30.19 | KaaK | petn-randall: thanks for digging |
| 00:30.34 | JoeE | I'm running squeeze on a proliant ml350 g3 using hardware raid (hp smartarray 641 controller, array a: raid 1+0 with 2 73gb 15k drives, array b: raid 5 with 3 73gb 15k drives. |
| 00:30.39 | petn-randall | KaaK: You're welcome. |
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| 00:31.42 | JoeE | Using hdparm -t, array a is getting around 106mb/sec and array b is getting around 40mb/sec. The performance seems quite slow for 15k scsi drives. Do these numbers sound average for my raid levels/setup? |
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| 00:33.17 | JoeE | I'm using the cfq scheduler on both arrays, and tried tweaking read_ahead_cache and nr_requests to no avail |
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| 00:40.02 | JoeE | how would I make changes to /sys/block/* permanent? |
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| 00:40.43 | Deeps | JoeE: man sysctl.conf |
| 00:40.56 | JoeE | thanks deeps |
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| 00:42.54 | eristisk | Where are fonts installed on a Debian system? |
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| 00:44.19 | cyclick | eristisk: I don't know, but you can add your own in /home/username/.fonts (most program look there I think) |
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| 00:47.31 | JoeE | aren't they normally installed in the X11 (or XOrg) directory? |
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| 01:03.11 | unholycrab | so i have an issue where i need a specific version of a package, for example apache2=2.2.22-1ubuntu1.3. i found this; but the .deb on this page only has the files which were changed from the last build (im guessing), and i need the entire package https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/4355409 |
| 01:03.18 | unholycrab | anyone know where i can find something like this? |
| 01:03.45 | unholycrab | the current version on the tree is apache2=2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4 and 1.3 is no longer available |
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| 01:05.22 | centrx | unholycrab, http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
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| 01:21.18 | Sia- | i wrote my question in forum of debian, maybe their some which they have the same device. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=110548 |
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| 01:36.38 | unholycrab | thank you, centrx |
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| 01:37.35 | centrx | No probloemo! |
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| 01:39.41 | n-st | i'm trying to set up tinydns and it fails to do anything *at all*... :/ tinydns-get A foo.voidptr.de returns "1 foo.voidptr.de:" without any actual result and dig foo.voidptr.de @localhost queries a completely different nameserver instead of localhost |
| 01:40.28 | n-st | netstat: udp6 0 0 a.b.c.d:53 :::* 0 8248 2689/tinydns |
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| 01:42.15 | n-st | and tinydns's data file: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b390ed59/ |
| 01:42.16 | k0d3r | hi all |
| 01:42.30 | k0d3r | i have such problem |
| 01:42.36 | k0d3r | i am using antix |
| 01:42.46 | k0d3r | when system starts |
| 01:42.58 | k0d3r | there is a sound of soundcard of amplifier |
| 01:43.05 | k0d3r | normally it is once |
| 01:43.11 | k0d3r | and in my installation |
| 01:43.17 | k0d3r | it repeats all the time |
| 01:43.18 | themill | Perhaps you should ask #mepis -- #debian isn't going to be of much help here... particularly when your ENTER key seems broken too |
| 01:43.21 | k0d3r | what is wrong |
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| 01:43.42 | k0d3r | ok thx |
| 01:43.49 | edj | If I use pulseaudio sound is scratchy. If I remove it and use alsa, sound is fine but juk is silent. Running kde and have NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio. Any pointers, advice greatly appreciated. |
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| 01:51.20 | Kobra | hey, does anyone know when OpenSSL will be fixed on Sid? |
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| 01:51.57 | smove | hey guys, is it possible to use a specific repo (ie. testing) only for a few packages? is there a config file or something where I can say, only this and that package can get updates from testing, the rest plz stay stable? |
| 01:52.18 | nabilaa | Hmm |
| 01:52.28 | dondelelcaro | smove: yes, but in general you don't want to do that |
| 01:52.28 | n-st | Kobra: the people in #debian-next might be able to help you |
| 01:52.40 | dondelelcaro | smove: use backports instead |
| 01:52.46 | Kobra | n-st: ty |
| 01:52.52 | smove | dondelelcaro: why not? |
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| 01:53.11 | dondelelcaro | smove: because packages in testing often depend on libraries and other things which are only in testing |
| 01:53.17 | Kobra | n-st: #debian-next: Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invite |
| 01:53.26 | dondelelcaro | smove: and if you naïvely install them, you'll basically end up running testing. |
| 01:53.34 | abrotman | Kobra: irc.oftc.net |
| 01:53.43 | Kobra | ah |
| 01:53.56 | dondelelcaro | Kobra: which "fix" to openssl? |
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| 01:54.10 | n-st | Kobra: sorry, i didn't read all of the channel topic apparently... |
| 01:54.44 | dondelelcaro | #732972, #732754, or #732986 are all supposedly fixed. |
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| 01:54.56 | Kobra | it's er |
| 01:55.07 | Kobra | OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 10001060, you have 1000106f |
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| 01:55.16 | Kobra | i had it before, then it was fixed, now it's come back again |
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| 01:55.44 | themill | dpkg: tell cypherman about root |
| 01:56.42 | smove | dondelelcaro: well, dependencies should be included in that approach. so if a dependency is only in testing and is needed for that package which I'd like to install, it should be ok and I'm aware of that. I don't do that naively. I'll have a look at backports. Thanks so far |
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| 01:57.45 | str3 | if i'm on jessie, am i supposed to get updates marked as unstable stream? |
| 01:57.49 | str3 | as opposed to testing |
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| 01:57.53 | dondelelcaro | Kobra: presumably you can either downgrade openssl, or upgrade ssh |
| 01:58.05 | Kobra | ssh is up to date though |
| 01:58.09 | Kobra | will a dist-upgrade work? |
| 01:58.17 | dondelelcaro | Kobra: I don't see a bug for that particular one, so it's possible that a rebuild of ssh needs to be scheduled |
| 01:58.33 | Kobra | yeah, i have no updates for ssh |
| 01:58.37 | dondelelcaro | Kobra: you're running unstable. It's possible that no one has done the update for ssh yet. |
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| 02:05.45 | Kobra | yeah, i was just wondering if anyone knew about it yet, and if there was an ETA |
| 02:05.46 | Kobra | thanks |
| 02:07.24 | dondelelcaro | smove: yes, the dependencies will be included, but often that's not what you want. You want to run a newer version which is built against the libraries in stable. |
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| 02:10.54 | smove | dondelelcaro: ye ofc. if thats possible it should be the first choice. but if the dep is also newer you cant avoid that :) anyway, Im afraind backports are not really what I want |
| 02:11.12 | dondelelcaro | smove: why not? |
| 02:11.41 | smove | dondelelcaro: first of all it doesn't have that particular package. :) |
| 02:11.41 | dondelelcaro | smove: and if backports doesn't have the package, you can always backport it yourself |
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| 02:11.49 | dondelelcaro | !tell smove -about ssb |
| 02:11.49 | smove | hehe ok |
| 02:11.51 | abrotman | smove: which package? |
| 02:12.08 | smove | phpmyadmin >=4 |
| 02:12.32 | dondelelcaro | ah; yeah, that particular package you can pretty much install directly from testing |
| 02:12.49 | abrotman | would vote for learning the CLI interface :) |
| 02:13.07 | dondelelcaro | because it basically doesn't have any real library dependencies |
| 02:13.11 | smove | which I did, but I dont want apt-get upgrade to pull everything else from testing |
| 02:13.22 | dondelelcaro | smove: so in this case, you can use pinning |
| 02:13.23 | smove | only that single package |
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| 02:14.21 | smove | dondelelcaro: its set up in /etc/apt/preferences right? gonna have a look at it |
| 02:14.24 | dondelelcaro | smove: yes. |
| 02:14.30 | smove | k, thanks |
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| 02:15.49 | dondelelcaro | smove: you'll do something like Package: *\n Pin: release a=testing\nPin-Priority: -1 Package: phpmyadmin\nPin: release o=Debian,a=testing\nPin-Priority: 450; or something like that. |
| 02:16.21 | dondelelcaro | smove: but obviously, double check that the apt-get output looks sane and the apt-cache policy foopkg; output is correct before doing anyting |
| 02:16.21 | themill | (I think our apache maintainers would say that the package needs updating for the new apache packaging, however... when that happens, it won't be as easy to lift it from one release to another) |
| 02:16.24 | dondelelcaro | s/ting/thing/ |
| 02:16.44 | smove | ye, I'll figure that out but it seems it is exactlly what I want |
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| 02:17.03 | smove | ye will certainly do that ;p |
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| 02:17.57 | smove | Im actually a Gentoo user (never used debian before ;x). So, I'll be careful ;)) |
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| 02:21.03 | Belial` | dondelelcaro, if i wanted to just nab the latest iceweasel from experimental, does this look right |
| 02:21.05 | Belial` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.06 | Belial` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.06 | Belial` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.36 | Belial` | for automatically updating just iceweasel |
| 02:23.43 | dondelelcaro | Belial`: you want Pin-Priority: 500 |
| 02:24.55 | Belial` | dondelelcaro, thanks |
| 02:24.58 | evdo | newbie question: is there any command line weather tool available for debian? |
| 02:25.16 | themill | Belial`: which release are you currently running? |
| 02:25.35 | Belial` | themill, testing |
| 02:25.46 | themill | ok, that's fine. Just making sure it wasn't wheezy. |
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| 02:26.21 | Belial` | obviously create the preferences file in /etc/apt if it isn't there, right? |
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| 02:29.51 | themill | yeah |
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| 02:30.29 | Belial` | themill, i'm seeing conflicting things on google over where it should go. i'm seeing something for /etc/apt/preferences.d/<release> and /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences |
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| 02:30.37 | Belial` | and then of course, just /etc/apt/preferences |
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| 02:32.33 | themill | Belial`: any of them are fine -- all of them are included. |
| 02:33.06 | Belial` | themill, ah ok. thanks again. |
| 02:33.52 | dizzylizzy | Do most developers run wheezy and just have a sid chroot or something? |
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| 02:35.11 | abrotman | dizzylizzy: it's a reasonable approach |
| 02:35.16 | dvs | dizzylizzy: I bet most developers run sid |
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| 02:35.32 | dizzylizzy | and just backport all the packages you want newer |
| 02:35.38 | dizzylizzy | for your wheezy thingy |
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| 02:38.54 | dizzylizzy | I like all the updates in sid. It reminds me of everything I have installed. When an update comes along for something I don't need, I just remove it. Forgot I had that installed! :P |
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| 02:40.02 | dawdaw | I need some help |
| 02:40.05 | dawdaw | I have mysql installed |
| 02:40.14 | dawdaw | and I try to make it accessible from a remote host |
| 02:40.17 | the__Dreamer | once you have everything you want and it all works, you can set preferences in synaptic to only update to stable |
| 02:40.18 | dawdaw | and it doesn't seem to work |
| 02:40.35 | dawdaw | it says Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| 02:40.38 | dawdaw | whatever I type in |
| 02:41.24 | dawdaw | I log in to mysql and use this command GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO root@'my.ip' IDENTIFIED BY 'root_password'; |
| 02:41.26 | dawdaw | any help |
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| 02:42.56 | ChmEarl | use mysql; select user,host,password from user; |
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| 02:43.26 | ChmEarl | dawdaw, then see if your change was made |
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| 02:43.53 | dawdaw | Yeah but I can't connect to the server from my IP |
| 02:43.57 | dawdaw | using the root_password |
| 02:44.26 | dawdaw | ChmEarl it says OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| 02:44.34 | dawdaw | shouldn't it say at least 1 rows affected |
| 02:44.35 | dawdaw | or something |
| 02:44.37 | ChmEarl | dawdaw, in the grant: root@'%' |
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| 02:44.48 | abrotman | cries |
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| 02:46.14 | dawdaw | ChmEarl how would I be able to remove that in case I want to |
| 02:46.20 | dawdaw | so that mysql is not accessed by everyone |
| 02:46.33 | abrotman | perhaps this would be better suited for #mysql ? |
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| 02:47.13 | dawdaw | abrotman I try to speak in #mysql and says my message can't be sent, I am using debian so my second best bet would be here |
| 02:47.29 | abrotman | dawdaw: you likely have to be registered |
| 02:47.51 | dawdaw | can u still help me or know what is wrong? |
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| 02:49.21 | ChmEarl | dawdaw, netstat -an | grep 3306 |
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| 02:54.29 | relipse | Question: How can we trust github and/or bitbucket private repositories, linode virtual machines, and other online services which can be used to store sensitive information? Couldn't a snoopy employee go through files? |
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| 02:55.22 | Penix | couldn't I slip over in the shower and crack my head open? |
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| 02:56.03 | Penix | relipse: take the risk, or don't take the risk. this isn't something for #debian though |
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| 02:59.46 | relipse | but who ensures that the data is not snooped thorugh |
| 03:00.02 | relipse | why not i'm sure the ma majority of people on here use a linodeor github |
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| 03:01.09 | abrotman | relipse: again, please take this elsewhere, #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
| 03:01.18 | relipse | lol |
| 03:01.28 | relipse | it says i'm banned from debian-offtopic |
| 03:05.11 | abrotman | ah, webchat problems |
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| 03:58.22 | tekzilla | are there shell tools to calculate the transfer time of a given amount of data at a given speed ? |
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| 04:06.52 | abrotman | tekzilla: what sort of transfer? |
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| 04:08.14 | tekzilla | eg. a file transfer, just to get an estimate |
| 04:09.01 | jelly-home | so, basically something that can divide two numbers |
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| 04:11.33 | bullgard4 | w is a symlink to /usr/bin/w.procps . What stands "procps" for? |
| 04:12.06 | jelly-home | bullgard4: which package does /usr/bin/w.procps belong to? |
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| 04:17.50 | sideup66 | hey room |
| 04:18.15 | dvs | !room |
| 04:18.15 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 04:18.18 | sideup66 | simple question, i have a debian system running as purpose built with only shell, mainly accessed via ssh, i would like to set the screen in the shell to actually turn off after a certain period of time |
| 04:18.29 | sideup66 | i do note that the screen blanks after so long but does not actually turn off |
| 04:19.32 | dvs | sideup66: Maybe apmd is what you're looking for. |
| 04:20.14 | abrotman | eh .. no way |
| 04:20.22 | Daemoen | lo all; with preseed and expert recipe, is it possible to do multiple lvm vgs on a single drive ? |
| 04:20.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sideup66 about blank |
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| 04:22.25 | sideup66 | ok |
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| 04:25.50 | sideup66 | hmm |
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| 04:28.30 | Symmetria | hrm, any reason that sysctl won't let me tune even when I'm root (getting permission denied on all my sysctl -w's) |
| 04:29.05 | nevyn | selinux? |
| 04:29.18 | sideup66 | abrotman: thanks, just set those settings up a bit :) |
| 04:29.20 | sideup66 | not too hard |
| 04:29.21 | Symmetria | selinux affects sysctl as well? |
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| 04:29.41 | sideup66 | abrotman: thanks again for help yesterday, I was finally able to get the machine running, seems fine :) |
| 04:29.45 | nevyn | Symmetria: do you have it on? |
| 04:29.49 | nevyn | getenforce |
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| 04:30.46 | Symmetria | checking, I didnt install this box (and Ive never actually used selinux settings before) |
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| 04:31.42 | nevyn | getenforce will tell you if it's on. |
| 04:32.06 | Symmetria | getenforce command isnt even installed so Im guessing not :) |
| 04:32.26 | Symmetria | no sestatus command on the box either |
| 04:32.49 | nevyn | roles? |
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| 04:33.22 | Symmetria | as far as I know, this is a stock standard debian box and Im logged in as root, nothing special configured on it |
| 04:33.52 | Symmetria | root@speedtest:/selinux# sysctl -w net.core.rmem_max=16777216 |
| 04:33.52 | Symmetria | sysctl: permission denied on key 'net.core.rmem_max' |
| 04:33.56 | Symmetria | but thats what Im seeing |
| 04:34.26 | CallMeBio | Hey, has anyone had any luck with intuos 5 on wheezy? |
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| 05:15.02 | veek | which pkg has the system/exec man pages |
| 05:16.04 | veek | nm fixed |
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| 05:37.33 | pbn | ~version |
| 05:37.33 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, version is for the kernel "uname -r", for your distro "cat /etc/*-release" or "lsb_release -d". For other applications, try running it with a --version command. |
| 05:37.38 | pbn | ~version munin |
| 05:38.09 | pbn | ~show munin |
| 05:38.30 | pbn | ~packages munin |
| 05:38.41 | pbn | !show munin |
| 05:38.58 | pbn | hmmmm |
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| 05:40.47 | Daemoen | is it seriously just not possible to do multiple vgs in a preseed configuration ? |
| 05:41.08 | pbn | tring to find what versions of munin is avaialable in each Debian release |
| 05:41.14 | pbn | !tell |
| 05:41.24 | pbn | !find munin |
| 05:41.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'munin' (6 of 26): (/usr/share/doc/nsd/contrib/nsd_munin_.gz) in net/nsd ;; (/usr/sbin/sitesummary-update-munin) in misc/sitesummary ;; (/usr/share/perl5/App/pmuninstall.pm) in perl/pmuninstall ;; (/usr/share/mumble-django/munin.py) in python/mumble-django ;; (/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/munin-common.conf) in net/munin-common ;; (/usr/share/slbackup/contrib/munin-plugin) in utils/slbackup. |
| 05:42.15 | pbn | !releases munin |
| 05:42.24 | pbn | !version munin |
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| 05:42.38 | pbn | !dists munin |
| 05:43.05 | pbn | ah I'll come back later |
| 05:46.29 | JohnA1 | I am rebuilding my server, original setup was LVM on to of raid 6. I was looking at the latest setup. Is ZFS worthwhile? how would I use it? |
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| 06:01.45 | themill | pbn: "/msg judd versions munin" or look at packages.debian.org/munin |
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| 06:11.19 | tekzilla | so when i was asking about a shell transfer speed calculator before, i was thinking of something like this: http://paste.debian.net/74924/ |
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| 06:11.37 | tekzilla | maybe it'll come in handy.. |
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| 07:45.11 | Dirkos | I have a problem with reaching a host from my machine. The ping etc gives me a 100% package loss: http://pastebin.com/a2bfdZ4v |
| 07:45.33 | Dirkos | also the traceroute does not do much. The thing is that i dont know if its related to the machine (OS) itself or the host |
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| 07:46.25 | yang | Dirkos: probably not so much to the OS as to your network configuration |
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| 07:50.53 | tekzilla | Dirkos: probably trouble at a provider/carrier somewhere or some strange routes on your machine ? |
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| 07:53.33 | Voyager_MP | good morning, I'm having some trouble setting the hostname right. Can anyone help ? Why is %M not showing the FQDN ? print -P '%M' => sulfs001 |
| 07:53.53 | Voyager_MP | domainname => intern.local |
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| 07:57.36 | Dirkos | tekzilla: well its running in MS Azure so i doubt that that would be the problem though |
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| 07:59.33 | tekzilla | Dirkos: so have you tried anything beyond pinging ? maybe ICMP is being filtered |
| 08:00.03 | Dirkos | tekzilla: nope, i have no idea what you mean though so some help would be very kind |
| 08:00.12 | Daemoen | is it possible to create multiple VGs in a preseed expert reciper directive ? |
| 08:00.29 | Dirkos | tekzilla: i can reach it from my local VM so the service is up and running |
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| 08:02.37 | tekzilla | Dirkos: so this is a linux box ? just try "telnet api.discogs.com whateverport" |
| 08:03.30 | tekzilla | if you're able to make a connection, your app will be too |
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| 08:04.16 | Dirkos | *trying* so no connection can be made |
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| 08:06.02 | tekzilla | Dirkos: can you reach anything on the outside ? "telnet google.com 80" |
| 08:06.29 | Dirkos | yep working like a charm |
| 08:06.34 | Dirkos | only having problems with this certain host |
| 08:06.40 | Dirkos | and i need it for their api whehe |
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| 08:07.12 | tekzilla | ok, maybe its the azure firewalls because of the special api port ? i have no clue |
| 08:07.21 | Dirkos | me neither |
| 08:07.29 | Dirkos | just wanna be sure it is not in the OS or anything |
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| 08:14.14 | aktau | Hey guys :) |
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| 08:14.27 | aktau | I'm having some problems. My rootfs seems full |
| 08:14.38 | aktau | But I can't determine where the big files are located |
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| 08:14.56 | aktau | I've tried mounting /dev/sda0 in a seperate location and running du and ncdu |
| 08:15.04 | aktau | They all show about 246MB of files |
| 08:15.09 | aktau | While rootfs has 2GB total |
| 08:15.15 | Dirkos | aktau: find / -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }' |
| 08:15.17 | aktau | Only df -h, shows 2GB in use |
| 08:15.29 | aktau | Dirkos: will run that asap |
| 08:15.45 | Dirkos | if im right though :) |
| 08:15.45 | aktau | Dirkos: will that not also look in the mountpoints? |
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| 08:16.11 | jeeves_moss | I'm running into this issue when I'm trying to setup Bind9. http://pastebin.com/NRgEkuQE what am I doing wrong? |
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| 08:19.50 | Mosi | i'm trying to configure a pre-auth banner for sshd with the "Banner /etc/file" parameter in /etc/ssh/ssh_config, but after adding the parameter, creating a world-readable file at the correct path, and restarting the service several times, i'm still not seeing the banner. Are there any tricks to getting this to work on debian? |
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| 08:24.00 | aktau | Dirkos' suggestions doesn't find anything different than du/ncdu |
| 08:24.16 | aktau | Does anybody know how to view (perhaps hidden) files on rootfs? |
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| 08:26.34 | SirLagz | aktau: what are you trying to find ? |
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| 08:33.31 | aktau | SirLagz: my rootfs is full, but du shows it has about 10% utilization |
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| 08:33.52 | aktau | SirLagz: du says about 254MB in use, rootfs has 2.0GB |
| 08:33.58 | SirLagz | does df show that it's full ? |
| 08:34.02 | aktau | SirLagz: yes |
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| 08:34.43 | aktau | di -i on rootfs gives: rootfs 122400 11979 110421 10% / |
| 08:34.47 | aktau | So that's ok |
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| 08:34.56 | SirLagz | does lsof show any files that are marked as deleted ? |
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| 08:35.16 | aktau | YEs |
| 08:35.19 | aktau | Big ones, actually |
| 08:35.24 | aktau | All owned by mysql |
| 08:35.26 | SirLagz | that's where the space is |
| 08:35.29 | SirLagz | restart mysql |
| 08:35.34 | aktau | It's running a repair |
| 08:35.42 | aktau | I think restarting it might make it even worse |
| 08:35.48 | SirLagz | wait for it to finish, then restart it |
| 08:35.54 | aktau | I don't think it can finish |
| 08:36.14 | aktau | It's got 100% rootfs utilization going on, so it's stuck, I believe |
| 08:36.27 | aktau | the load is almost zero, atop doesn't show drive activity |
| 08:36.29 | SirLagz | well at least you know where the space is... |
| 08:36.33 | aktau | I believe it's waiting for an fsync |
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| 08:37.07 | omid8bimo | hey, how can i kinda reprogram a key on my keybaord to function as Insert? |
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| 08:37.29 | aktau | SirLagz: I'm actually sure it's stuck since I cleaned some old packages and suddenly mysql started processing again for a tiny bit |
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| 08:37.39 | omid8bimo | like Shift+(that key) to act as Insert |
| 08:37.55 | aktau | Is there any way to force the deleted files to go away? |
| 08:38.09 | SirLagz | aktau: sure...by restarting mysql =/ |
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| 08:39.29 | aktau | SirLagz: damn, that's the only thing that's not really an option... |
| 08:39.39 | SirLagz | yeah =/ |
| 08:39.40 | pfote | if mysql repairs a table it makes a full copy of it .. so if you repair a 5GB table you need at least 5GB free space |
| 08:39.53 | SirLagz | unless you can mount a ramdisk with enough space to move things to |
| 08:39.58 | kalzu | Hi! what is the state of iscsi target (ctld) on 10? |
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| 08:40.27 | pfote | but it should be safe to restart it while repair .. |
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| 08:40.54 | aktau | pfote: in the mysql /var/lib/mysql mountpoint there is plenty of space, just not in rootfs |
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| 08:41.13 | aktau | pfote: I have no idea why it tried to use /tmp... grmbl |
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| 08:41.33 | pfote | hrm |
| 08:41.34 | SirLagz | aktau: how much ram do you have ? |
| 08:41.42 | aktau | SirLagz: 3GB |
| 08:41.50 | pfote | those repair tables are usually in /var/lib/mysql |
| 08:42.03 | pfote | could these be big queries? |
| 08:42.46 | aktau | pfote: it's just a REPAIR statement on a biggish table (9.2 GB) |
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| 08:43.10 | aktau | pfote: there's a TMD file that's big |
| 08:43.20 | aktau | pfote: it's in /var/lib/mysql. |
| 08:43.25 | pfote | thats the repair in progress |
| 08:43.37 | aktau | pfote: I know, but it seems to also be using things in /tmp |
| 08:43.40 | aktau | I checked with lsof |
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| 08:43.43 | aktau | I'll paste somewhere |
| 08:44.22 | aktau | pfote: http://nopaste.info/2c75121e6c.html |
| 08:44.50 | aktau | If I'm reading that right, that's about 1.5 GB of temp file every x temp files |
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| 08:45.03 | aktau | Actually, only one of those 1.5GB files would be enough to fill up rootfs |
| 08:45.21 | aktau | I have zero clue why it wants to make a 1.5GB temp file like that though... :( |
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| 08:47.01 | pfote | these could be queries .. for instance if the sort buffer is not big enough it starts to sort things on disc |
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| 08:47.33 | pfote | wonder why it has these files still open though |
| 08:47.50 | aktau | pfote: I too, wonder |
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| 08:48.48 | pfote | why is restarting no option? |
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| 08:49.55 | aktau | pfote: it's important data, the last backup is from a few days ago (+ it takes ages to restore) |
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| 08:50.05 | aktau | pfote: it's not impossible to restart I guess, but I would really prefer not to |
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| 08:50.25 | aktau | pfote: if I could just somehow give mysql more space... or make it use another /tmp dir |
| 08:50.51 | pfote | i think theres a config option for that |
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| 08:51.05 | ChrisH | aktau: If its important data then the backup needs to be current and restore must be tested and documented. |
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| 08:51.28 | ChrisH | aktau: I assume no LVM in place, so on the fly smooth resize of filesystem is not possible |
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| 08:54.01 | pfote | yap, there is a "tmpdir" in my.cnf |
| 08:55.35 | pfote | aktau: it shouldn't hurt if you cancel the repair as the original data is not touched but the .TMD is written to instead. so you can cancel and restart a repair |
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| 09:01.06 | aktau | pfote: done that, it was the repair causing the trouble |
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| 09:02.22 | pfote | akp__: if the data is that important i would at least see to get away from myisam table type to innodb (or migrate away from mysql alltogether) |
| 09:02.25 | pfote | ups |
| 09:02.35 | pfote | aktau was meant :-) |
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| 09:04.33 | Moviuro | good morning all! I'm encountering problems on Debian 7.1 with zsh 4.13.7: I use grml's zsh config but the launching fails on one server with this line: +VCS_INFO_realpath:7:cmdand> pwd; the config works great on the desktops (same version of both debian & zsh). with no .zshrc I don't get any error. |
| 09:07.36 | misterli | by the way.. Thank you for he hint with rsyncing my two servers (1,5TB). Its running the whole night already without crashing |
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| 09:08.55 | statusfailed | and i'm on 6.0.8 |
| 09:09.06 | statusfailed | how do I force git to pick up curl from the prefi? |
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| 09:10.35 | omid8bimo | anyone? |
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| 09:10.50 | omid8bimo | hey, how can i kinda reprogram a key on my keybaord to function as Insert? |
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| 09:13.44 | Moviuro | omid8bimo: look at the .xbindkeyrc (IIRC) |
| 09:13.50 | Moviuro | (when using X) |
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| 09:13.59 | klys | "setxkbmap" |
| 09:14.19 | Moviuro | klys: doesn't it require to create a custom keymap ? |
| 09:14.37 | klys | it seems to remap keys somehow according to its manpage |
| 09:14.47 | Moviuro | oh |
| 09:15.24 | klys | with the -option parameter |
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| 09:44.05 | M4dH4TT3r | hello basic deb questions, what is term command to change hostname |
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| 09:44.49 | ChrisH | M4dH4TT3r: vi /etc/hostname /etc/hosts |
| 09:44.52 | ChrisH | reboot |
| 09:44.54 | M4dH4TT3r | keeps changing back on reboot |
| 09:45.17 | M4dH4TT3r | edited /etc/hosts /etc/hostname |
| 09:45.17 | M4dH4TT3r | on reboot changes back |
| 09:45.27 | M4dH4TT3r | also tried sysctl |
| 09:45.44 | ChrisH | M4dH4TT3r: then find /etc -type f | xargs grep -l PLACEOLDHOSTNAMEHERE |
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| 09:46.52 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: is this machine using dhcp to set up its networking? |
| 09:47.26 | nkuttler | M4dH4TT3r: is that some kind of vps? i've seen providers where the hostname is set through an init script.. or something |
| 09:47.44 | M4dH4TT3r | its a thin client |
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| 09:47.57 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 09:48.13 | M4dH4TT3r | no i have the networking set to static |
| 09:49.16 | M4dH4TT3r | deb thin client image on a rpi I'm reconfiguring as a soho server |
| 09:49.29 | themill | what does "thin client" mean in this context? |
| 09:49.32 | M4dH4TT3r | w/ redundency though |
| 09:50.15 | M4dH4TT3r | themill small computer made for pxe boot |
| 09:50.26 | M4dH4TT3r | (software wise) |
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| 09:50.46 | anddam | hi |
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| 09:50.59 | anddam | is there a dpkg flag for inspecting the Provides: of a deb package? |
| 09:51.15 | anddam | I mean without extracting the whole package |
| 09:51.23 | M4dH4TT3r | btw ChrisH the command returned the 2 files I edited already and if I nano into them it shows my changes only |
| 09:51.54 | themill | anddam: dpkg --info foo.deb |
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| 09:53.51 | M4dH4TT3r | rewrote again cause nano'd in and had reverted? on reboot I bet will do again |
| 09:54.38 | anddam | themill: thanks |
| 09:55.16 | anddam | quite self-explanatory, also |
| 09:55.31 | M4dH4TT3r | yep reverted |
| 09:55.35 | anddam | when installing tomcat7 I got https://gist.github.com/anddam/8314329 |
| 09:55.39 | M4dH4TT3r | how do I make perm? |
| 09:55.54 | anddam | should I manually set JAVA_HOME? |
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| 09:56.11 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: is your pxe boot setting the hostname? |
| 09:56.30 | M4dH4TT3r | no not even pxebooting atm |
| 09:56.57 | ChrisH | anddam: that the usual way to make sure the expected java is used |
| 09:57.14 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: perhaps you could start again then. |
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| 09:57.38 | M4dH4TT3r | ran find before reboot and came back with nothing ran after and etc files showed up again |
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| 09:57.50 | M4dH4TT3r | start again? |
| 09:58.20 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: what are you actually booting? how are you booting it? The only piece of information I'd managed to get was about this thin client setup was PXE booting and apparently that's wrong now... |
| 09:58.55 | M4dH4TT3r | RPITC armel img |
| 09:59.08 | M4dH4TT3r | on RPI |
| 09:59.52 | M4dH4TT3r | if it were pxe booting id have hostname resolve by dns |
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| 10:01.37 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: the first thing I find on their website is "hostname generated on macaddress at boot" |
| 10:01.59 | anddam | ChrisH: should I edit the tomcat init.d script? |
| 10:02.10 | themill | (also, RPITC isn't debian... it's yet another derivative and we don't know how it differs from debian. Our instructions work on debian... you probably should ask the people who make this distribution such questions) |
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| 10:02.42 | ChrisH | anddam: again: that the usual way :) |
| 10:03.21 | themill | anddam: do you have a jdk installed? |
| 10:03.44 | M4dH4TT3r | themill most of what you might answer to my questions will work though |
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| 10:04.16 | anddam | ChrisH: I don't have any experience running tomcat or using a java server at all |
| 10:04.40 | anddam | themill: I do, I followed JavaPackage instructions from wiki and edited the deb to provide java-6-runtime as jelly-home suggested |
| 10:05.00 | anddam | in fact the tomcat7 dependencies are satisfied by the oracle jdk7u45 deb |
| 10:05.21 | anddam | I'm reading #644340 and #644414 now |
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| 10:06.04 | themill | anddam: if these jdk packages are doing the right things and tomcat is looking in the right way, using update-java-alternatives to select the right jre and jdk could work |
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| 10:07.00 | anddam | dpkg updated alternatives for java when I installed jdk7 |
| 10:07.02 | dpkg | no idea, anddam |
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| 10:08.35 | anddam | "If JAVA_HOME is not set, some common directories for OpenJDK, the Sun JDK, and various J2SE 1.5 versions are tried." |
| 10:08.40 | anddam | from /etc/defaults/tomcat7 |
| 10:09.10 | themill | anddam: anything that requires JAVA_HOME to be set is broken. Have you double checked update-java-alternatives? |
| 10:09.34 | anddam | themill: how do I "check" that? |
| 10:09.42 | anddam | https://gist.github.com/anddam/8314329 updated with update-alternative --display java |
| 10:09.53 | themill | (then again, common directories might not included non-free java these days, I don't know) |
| 10:10.00 | anddam | does it looks sane? |
| 10:10.06 | anddam | look* |
| 10:10.11 | themill | that doesn't look like update-java-alternatives to me |
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| 10:10.46 | anddam | sudo update-java-alternatives --list |
| 10:10.47 | ChrisH | themill: I cannot agree. Its not unusual to have different java version installed on servers. So setting JAVA_HOME is common |
| 10:10.48 | anddam | j2sdk1.7-oracle 317 /usr/lib/jvm/j2sdk1.7-oracle |
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| 10:11.09 | anddam | the point is I don't know what a correct output should be |
| 10:11.40 | themill | ChrisH: emphasis on *requires* -- it should work without but you may wish to point at it a different jvm for other reasons. |
| 10:12.10 | themill | ChrisH: this is particularly true for anything from a debian package |
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| 10:12.55 | anddam | themill: are we talking about what tomcat7 package should be or about what I should do in order for make it work? |
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| 10:14.42 | themill | anddam: it looks like you need to fiddle with where tomcat is looking for java here. Doing so in /etc/defaults/tomcat7 would be appropriate. |
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| 10:18.03 | anddam | the tomcat init.d scripts looks for executables in JDK_DIRS that is an space separated list of paths |
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| 10:18.23 | anddam | the first one is /usr/lib/jvm/default-java , should I provide that with the alternatives system? |
| 10:18.38 | anddam | I mean that sounds a good "default" path |
| 10:19.52 | anddam | I edited JAVA_HOME in /etc/default/tomcat7 setting it to /usr/lib/jvm/j2sdk1.7-oracle and the service is now running |
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| 10:20.18 | anddam | I'm still interested in the /usr/lib/jvm/default-java question tho' |
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| 10:30.12 | M4dH4TT3r | hey themill what deb img would you recommend for rpi? |
| 10:30.33 | M4dH4TT3r | just going to use it like I said as SOHO server |
| 10:30.49 | M4dH4TT3r | with vnc11x |
| 10:31.22 | M4dH4TT3r | pref with gnome desktop |
| 10:31.34 | M4dH4TT3r | (can always install later though) |
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| 10:40.58 | M4dH4TT3r | anyone? |
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| 10:44.05 | nkuttler | M4dH4TT3r: in grub? during boot? |
| 10:44.16 | nkuttler | M4dH4TT3r: if you didn't install it.. are you sure you're running Debian? |
| 10:44.20 | M4dH4TT3r | during boot |
| 10:44.34 | M4dH4TT3r | yes |
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| 10:45.12 | nkuttler | !tell M4dH4TT3r about plymouth |
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| 10:45.40 | M4dH4TT3r | plymouth? |
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| 10:46.36 | nkuttler | M4dH4TT3r: read the bot's msg |
| 10:46.55 | M4dH4TT3r | I did still didnt tell the directory |
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| 10:47.18 | nkuttler | M4dH4TT3r: next, /usr/share/doc/<package> |
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| 10:51.32 | vvor | where can I look for a script to help generate rsyncd authorized_keys per user? |
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| 10:54.33 | ksk | authorized_keys is ssh related. nothing to do with rsyncd. and no one even knows what you plan to do, so the answer is no :> |
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| 10:55.51 | M4dH4TT3r | thanx nklutter |
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| 10:59.40 | superlinux-hp | hi. I am having troubles moving Gnome menu items up/down. alacarte's "move up/down" are not working. |
| 10:59.50 | thims | I don't want to break my current X system. Also, I am using multiarch. |
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| 11:31.29 | wafic | Good morning all |
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| 11:34.09 | wafic | i got a small problem with re installing some of the plugins on the system http://pastebin.com/b75wAPFW can any one help me with it iv been looking all over the internet but getting no replies from no one |
| 11:34.55 | nkuttler | ,v openmediavault-autoshutdown |
| 11:34.59 | judd | No package named 'openmediavault-autoshutdown' was found in i386. |
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| 11:35.15 | wafic | the system is based on debian |
| 11:35.19 | nkuttler | wafic: you appear to be using third party packages, or not debian. ask them for support |
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| 11:35.36 | wafic | i tried but no answer there |
| 11:35.47 | wafic | i thought maybe some one here can help |
| 11:35.48 | nkuttler | !they don't know |
| 11:35.48 | dpkg | We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us. |
| 11:36.14 | wafic | ok thanks |
| 11:37.38 | vvor | party pupper:) |
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| 11:37.46 | Iridos | there's a squeeze VPS which uses sysklogd, while my wheezy desktop uses rsyslog... what I just saw is, rsyslogd has logrotate rules, while sysklogd has not... what's the main difference between the two? And... what would be easier/less problematic, installing rsyslogd or writing logrotate rules for sysklogd? |
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| 11:38.48 | vvor | md but that is in the next relese |
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| 11:40.12 | Iridos | hm, apparently rsyslog should be default since lenny... let me ask that the other way around... are there ill effects from switching from one to the other? |
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| 11:41.23 | raton | hi everybody |
| 11:41.39 | raton | I've got a problem and can't find a solution |
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| 11:42.13 | raton | On my other Debian, I didn't have these problems and I can't find a solution |
| 11:42.28 | raton | Is anyone there? |
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| 11:43.09 | Iridos | no |
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| 11:43.17 | raton | ^^ |
| 11:43.21 | Iridos | we're all out for lunch |
| 11:43.21 | raton | thanks |
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| 11:43.24 | raton | okok |
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| 11:43.43 | Iridos | what would you have done if 1400 people had said "yes" |
| 11:43.53 | M4dH4TT3r | is deb armel available as an img not an ISO? |
| 11:43.55 | raton | I found it funny |
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| 11:46.39 | M4dH4TT3r | and really wtf is with the ftp site looks like sht and confusing as hell |
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| 11:49.43 | Penix | it's a directory listing. what were you expecting? |
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| 11:50.08 | M4dH4TT3r | hello? |
| 11:50.41 | M4dH4TT3r | a directory listing that lists file extentions and actually hass them |
| 11:51.22 | Penix | where are you looking? |
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| 11:51.57 | M4dH4TT3r | http://ftp.nl.debian.org |
| 11:52.39 | Penix | and what's the problem? |
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| 11:52.53 | Thraul | maybe use a ftp client instead of a browser if you don't like the way it looks |
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| 11:53.51 | M4dH4TT3r | alot of files there dont have the ext listed and have yet to see a img |
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| 11:54.09 | Penix | which directory are you looking in? it's exactly the same as any other mirror |
| 11:54.13 | Penix | it just has html pages |
| 11:54.18 | M4dH4TT3r | armel |
| 11:54.19 | Penix | well, styles html pages |
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| 11:54.50 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: that's because there are only directories inside armel/ |
| 11:55.02 | themill | ".img" is pretty meaningless anyway |
| 11:55.14 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: look at the 'Directory' sidebar table |
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| 11:55.24 | M4dH4TT3r | ohh whys that themill |
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| 11:56.25 | M4dH4TT3r | I havee 2 armel devs and 2 mips devs I would like to put deb on and all will need a img format |
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| 11:57.03 | debian-n00b | Every start up i am getting unwanted process which is always pop up an windows whenever i restart my computer. How can i remove it and get all start up application list? |
| 11:57.04 | themill | "img format" is meaningless... |
| 11:57.09 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: 'img' isn't a format. do you want a usb or cd bootable image? |
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| 11:57.32 | themill | Penix: hd image of some sort at a guess |
| 11:57.37 | M4dH4TT3r | sd |
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| 11:57.44 | M4dH4TT3r | and no live shit |
| 11:57.52 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: go to the 'iso-cd' directory |
| 11:58.03 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: you can boot the iso images from sd or usb |
| 11:58.21 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: but, yes, it sounds like you want a pre-prepared fs image |
| 11:58.29 | M4dH4TT3r | yeah |
| 11:58.32 | themill | Debian doesn't distribute root filesystem images -- you'll have to make your own using the tools provided |
| 11:58.53 | M4dH4TT3r | sounds like a pain in the ass |
| 11:58.57 | Penix | or maybe https://wiki.debian.org/EmDebian/CrossDebootstrap if you're really keen |
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| 12:00.39 | kalzu | hmm, should it be possible to upgrade from 10.0-BETA3 to 10.0-RC4? |
| 12:00.59 | M4dH4TT3r | also Penix that page doesnt exist |
| 12:01.02 | Penix | kalzu: what? did you want #freebsd? |
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| 12:01.10 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: yes, it does |
| 12:01.24 | kalzu | Penix: ouh, yeah, sorry. Wrong channel |
| 12:01.54 | Penix | kalzu: and, yes, it should be possible. read UPDATING though |
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| 12:03.41 | M4dH4TT3r | Penix no it doesnt according to the wiki maybe emdebian.org? |
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| 12:04.03 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: I'm looking at that page right now |
| 12:05.17 | M4dH4TT3r | so am I, capped Strap (obvious running nix servers |
| 12:05.19 | M4dH4TT3r | ) |
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| 12:07.16 | M4dH4TT3r | ok question: which is the least time consuming way? |
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| 12:15.13 | milligan | I'm fiddling about with syslinux.cfg that's on a usb stick. Changes I make in there, don't seem to reflect on the boot menu though. Do I need to run any commands after fiddling with it ? |
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| 12:16.21 | M4dH4TT3r | quick question for the network installs how do they work? |
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| 12:16.56 | Thraul | the netinstall iso? |
| 12:17.00 | M4dH4TT3r | do they install the network hw first? or do I have to use another sys etc... |
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| 12:17.25 | M4dH4TT3r | sure say the iso |
| 12:18.08 | Thraul | The netinstall iso boots the system, detects the network hardware and looks for DHCP server and gets IP address then askes to select debian mirror to install from and downloaded and installs the packages |
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| 12:18.56 | shomon | hi |
| 12:18.58 | M4dH4TT3r | if I mount the iso on one partition and leave the other unformatted or can I do on same partition as iso mount? |
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| 12:19.19 | Thraul | you can't boot from iso? |
| 12:19.25 | M4dH4TT3r | and is the netinstall only over eth0? |
| 12:19.39 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: it's over which ever interface you choose |
| 12:19.40 | M4dH4TT3r | not on some systems |
| 12:19.47 | M4dH4TT3r | wlan? |
| 12:19.53 | Thraul | if you have more than one eth device will display a lists of devices to choose thats connected to system. |
| 12:19.54 | Penix | M4dH4TT3r: if you want wifi, you'll need external firmware files |
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| 12:20.54 | M4dH4TT3r | bt? |
| 12:21.17 | Penix | bluetooth? no |
| 12:21.21 | Penix | bittorrent? no |
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| 12:22.03 | M4dH4TT3r | bluetooth |
| 12:22.17 | M4dH4TT3r | cant do a netinstall over a bt bridge? |
| 12:22.26 | Penix | no |
| 12:22.44 | Penix | if you can, I've never heard of it. it would be a massive waste of time anyway |
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| 12:22.52 | M4dH4TT3r | why? |
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| 12:23.14 | Thraul | why not just wire the thing in for the install after setup get wlan working then continue installing packages you want? |
| 12:23.30 | Penix | because there are so many others ways to install without going to the trouble of integrating bluetooth drivers and utilities in to the installer, and configuring all that crap |
| 12:23.53 | M4dH4TT3r | what I really need is img files |
| 12:24.00 | M4dH4TT3r | but takes time to build |
| 12:24.07 | Thraul | why img files? what are you trying to achieve? |
| 12:24.09 | Penix | then you better get started |
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| 12:24.19 | M4dH4TT3r | 4am as is... |
| 12:24.22 | Penix | we've gone over this already. there are no premade filesystem images |
| 12:24.28 | M4dH4TT3r | ik |
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| 12:25.25 | M4dH4TT3r | Thraul one I was talking about doesnt have wifi or eth ;) |
| 12:25.25 | Penix | only other possibility may be installing the armel port in a qemu arm vm. make sure everything's compatible and configured to boot on your real hardware |
| 12:25.35 | afidegnum | hi, please I am facing this error on my bash script. /etc/init.d/red5: 29: Syntax error: "then" unexpected (expecting ";;") please what can be the cause? here is the bash script. http://pastebin.com/WkfRWpat |
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| 12:26.28 | Penix | afidegnum: which package does that file belong to? |
| 12:26.50 | petn-randall | afidegnum: Check line 29, you'll notice the mistake immediately ... |
| 12:27.19 | afidegnum | I am not good in batch script, I am follwing an installation directive |
| 12:27.34 | ChrisH | petn-randall: puh, took me several looks to see it |
| 12:27.37 | Penix | afidegnum: as petn-randall mentioned, line 29. should be 'if', not 'f' |
| 12:27.46 | ChrisH | afidegnum: looks like you did copy-and-paste :) |
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| 12:28.01 | M4dH4TT3r | petn-randall do ik u? |
| 12:28.11 | afidegnum | lol, yes I did some copy and paste :)_ |
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| 12:28.27 | afidegnum | yes, it's if |
| 12:29.11 | petn-randall | M4dH4TT3r: english please |
| 12:29.21 | M4dH4TT3r | that was english |
| 12:29.32 | M4dH4TT3r | nm obv not |
| 12:29.38 | Thraul | missing ;; above esac under the *) function all the others have it |
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| 12:32.01 | shomon | I'd like to install a secure debian based liveusb.. what options or distros are there? |
| 12:32.18 | M4dH4TT3r | can deb be installed over usb? |
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| 12:32.20 | shomon | not a penentration testing tool, just something secure enough for my granny etc... |
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| 12:33.58 | boudiccas | how can i get a screenshot of a table on a web page, which has to go full-screen [think F11] to get all the table on please? I've tried shutter, but it doesnt seem to allow me to go full-screen before i take the shot. what other screenshot programme would do it please? |
| 12:33.59 | Mikaela | Debian has live images that can be put on USB. |
| 12:34.13 | Mikaela | Yes, Debian can be installed over USB. |
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| 12:34.55 | M4dH4TT3r | not alot of choices for MIPS systems |
| 12:35.09 | M4dH4TT3r | any touchscreen support? |
| 12:35.09 | Thraul | boudiccas: try xfce4-screenshooter ? will allow you to add time delay to take screen shot and select active window and go full screen? |
| 12:35.25 | shomon | Mikaela, where can you get an image for a usb install to run from live cd? |
| 12:35.30 | boudiccas | ah thanks Thraul , will do |
| 12:35.31 | shomon | I just had a look around a few debian searches |
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| 12:35.42 | shomon | but the site puts everything in spanish and it's a bit hard to follow |
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| 12:36.20 | shomon | I thought there'd be a usb installable image somewhere here: http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ but it's a bit confusing to figure out what it is |
| 12:36.27 | M4dH4TT3r | is raspbian actual debian? |
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| 12:37.39 | Mikaela | shomon: all images can be put on USB. |
| 12:37.41 | boudiccas | Thraul; unfortunately that is one of the two that i've tried, and in the time-gap when you expand the target you lose the focus of the screenshot program, so it doesnt work, unfortunately |
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| 12:39.00 | Thraul | what about trying the screen capture in gimp? |
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| 12:39.50 | Kuba | I'm trying to migrate my NAS from FreeBSD; whould you recommend ext2 or ufs2 for data migration purposes? |
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| 12:41.40 | boudiccas | Thraul; i'm trying to capture a rather large table, and dont really want to have to crop it or anything afterwards, just include it in my emacs file and then publish to wordpress |
| 12:42.26 | jelly | M4dH4TT3r: it's a derivative, not debian |
| 12:42.43 | Thraul | no there is create screen shot in gimp i just put a web page full screen opened gimp, create screen shot 5 sec delay went back to web page full screen and it grabbed it full screen. |
| 12:42.56 | M4dH4TT3r | so sick of derivatives... |
| 12:43.47 | boudiccas | Thraul; ok, i'll have a look |
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| 12:46.51 | Thraul | boudiccas: here is example i took - http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/152/km8w.png dual monitors left is full screen webpage right i gimp open on second screen |
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| 12:48.34 | M4dH4TT3r | I see the first ISO's dont include the desktop in the title are they just core installs? |
| 12:48.52 | themill | It'd help if you were more precise. |
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| 12:49.36 | M4dH4TT3r | cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/mips/iso-cd/ |
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| 12:50.26 | M4dH4TT3r | hows that themill? |
| 12:50.54 | petn-randall | M4dH4TT3r: Just use the netinst, the CD/DVD/BR isos are for installations withouth internet access, like nuclear bunkers. |
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| 12:51.08 | d34df00d | Hi! |
| 12:51.18 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: that still doesn't tell me what image you're asking about |
| 12:51.37 | M4dH4TT3r | im asking about the link I posted |
| 12:51.43 | hramrach | how does initramfs determine what initramfs to generate? |
| 12:51.45 | d34df00d | I occasionally run into cases where people complain about my app, and the root of the problem is that the maintainer forgot to package some files that my app installs. |
| 12:51.50 | themill | M4dH4TT3r: yes, that's a link to a list of images |
| 12:52.09 | d34df00d | Is there an automated way to check that all files installed during `make install` stage during packaging got actually into some package? |
| 12:52.10 | hramrach | it generates initramfs for tons of non-existent kernels but not for the kernels I actually have |
| 12:52.12 | M4dH4TT3r | the first few images dont say a desktop name |
| 12:52.13 | themill | d34df00d: is there a bug number for bugs.debian.org we can look at> |
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| 12:52.41 | d34df00d | themill: nope, as the package didn't get into official Debian repos yet. |
| 12:52.44 | d34df00d | Unfortunately :) |
| 12:52.47 | M4dH4TT3r | they dont include a desktop just command line? |
| 12:52.54 | petn-randall | d34df00d: Who's the maintainer then? |
| 12:53.31 | M4dH4TT3r | and as I mentioned petn-randall one of my devs only has bt |
| 12:53.34 | d34df00d | petn-randall: the one who maintains a third-party repo for Debian and a PPA for Ubuntu. |
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| 12:53.45 | d34df00d | But the build systems are the same AFAIK, so that shouldn't matter probably. |
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| 12:54.05 | M4dH4TT3r | do they include a desktop or just command line? |
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| 12:55.13 | petn-randall | d34df00d: Hard to say without seeing the package. But if the is a "intent to package" bug reported for your software, you can ask at #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net for help. |
| 12:55.13 | boudiccas | Thraul; thanks, i've been able to get a shot using shutter which has got virtually the whole table on, but only just! |
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| 12:55.25 | Thraul | cool nps |
| 12:56.16 | d34df00d | petn-randall: well, I thought of asking about a tool to check the packages in general, but thanks nevertheless, I'll ping the maintainer as soon as he comes online. ITP probably was somewhere. I'm not very familiar with Debian packaging or maintainer hierarchy, so I won't say anything here to avoid confusion :) |
| 12:57.48 | Kuba | anyone has an info on how to properly align 4K disks? |
| 12:58.11 | Kuba | something like gnop -S in freebsd? |
| 12:58.14 | petn-randall | d34df00d: There are several ways to make sure nothing goes missing, but it depends on how the debian/rules in the package looks like. |
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| 12:58.44 | petn-randall | Kuba: IIRC all partitioning tools in Debian wheezy do that automatically. |
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| 12:59.24 | Kuba | petn-randall: even if the device has 512 logical and 4096 physical? |
| 12:59.36 | petn-randall | Kuba: Yes, even then. |
| 12:59.40 | themill | d34df00d: yes, dh_install has list-missing and fail-missing options to help with these cases; no, it's not always appropriate to use them |
| 12:59.43 | hramrach | hmm, seems to remember what version it was called with in the past |
| 12:59.53 | Kuba | petn-randall: cool, let me see the man |
| 13:00.15 | d34df00d | petn-randall: something like this: https://github.com/tehnick/leechcraft-unstable-debian/blob/launchpad/debian/rules |
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| 13:00.51 | d34df00d | themill: so here's the debian/rules in my previous message, is it relevant to use these options? Or what are (non-)appropriate cases? |
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| 13:01.03 | Kuba | petn-randall: Since util-linux-2.17, fdisk differentiates between logical and physical sector size. This option changes both sector sizes to sectorsize |
| 13:01.35 | Kuba | petn-randall: but couldn't find anything for (g)parted |
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| 13:02.19 | themill | d34df00d: make install is obviously not doing the right things here (see all the extra stuff that's being done) which would make those options a problem |
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| 13:03.40 | d34df00d | themill: hm, what stuff are you talking about? if override_dh_auto_install, then it's just the documentation being generated, standard make install doesn't do that in my app (and I'm not really sure it should). |
| 13:03.46 | Kuba | petn-randall: found good info here: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/ |
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| 13:04.13 | themill | d34df00d: actually, that doesn't look too bad |
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| 13:14.39 | Absolute0 | Postfix can email to my gmail account, but not to my clients email: "refused to talk to me: 476 connections from your host are denied)" |
| 13:15.00 | Absolute0 | Is there anything I can configure in postfix to get this to work, or is this something I can't fix? |
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| 13:15.43 | petn-randall | Absolute0: Can you paste all the relevant lines from /var/log/mail.log to http://paste.debian.net for us to inspect? |
| 13:16.33 | petn-randall | Absolute0: You can replace the mail addresses with xxx and yyy if you're not comfortable with sharing those. |
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| 13:16.58 | ChrisH | Absolute0: I am not sure if your understanding of how mail work is correct or complete. |
| 13:17.26 | Absolute0 | ChrisH: I am getting emails, but this guy is not. |
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| 13:17.45 | petn-randall | We won't be able to debug this without further info. |
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| 13:21.50 | Absolute0 | ChrisH, petn-randall: http://bpaste.net/show/GBbl8p7ygYniJfX6OOD8/ |
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| 13:25.05 | petn-randall | Absolute0: If their mail server refuses to accept mail, there's little you can do. |
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| 13:26.12 | Absolute0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.17 | Absolute0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.29 | Absolute0 | petn-randall: so I read that error correctly? |
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| 13:28.43 | thims | Does anyone know why /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/subsystem/devices/cpu0/... is a recursive loop? Is it used for anything? |
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| 13:29.34 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | many recursive loops under /sys |
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| 13:29.49 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | many* |
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| 13:30.20 | Dirkos | What could this be: http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/a36d0381 |
| 13:30.24 | jelly | thims: easier/simpler access in scripts |
| 13:30.50 | ChrisH | Absolute0: is that a valid email address at all? |
| 13:31.24 | Absolute0 | ChrisH: it was before I changed it. |
| 13:31.54 | thims | jelly: access to what? Doesn't it go on forever? |
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| 13:32.36 | petn-randall | Absolute0: What does 'postqueue -p' show you? |
| 13:32.56 | afidegnum | please can someone tell me where to find my apache tomcat server logs? |
| 13:33.10 | petn-randall | Hello IlIlIlIlIlIlI, do you have a support question? |
| 13:33.16 | jelly | thims: access to whatever useful directory is symlinked, instead of having to traverse the whole tree again |
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| 13:34.01 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | petn-randall: what is it to you? :D |
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| 13:34.13 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | I do, but I'm preparing it :p |
| 13:34.15 | thims | Oh, so it is dynamically changed by the kernel depending upon the state of the system? |
| 13:34.37 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | petn-randall: also Hi and thanks! :) |
| 13:34.39 | jelly | thims: whole /sys is virtual and represents various kernel internals, yes |
| 13:34.56 | petn-randall | IlIlIlIlIlIlI: Until now it is only a context-free statement ... :) |
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| 13:35.22 | Absolute0 | petn-randall: http://bpaste.net/show/EY0tPbTt8Rvxb78Ivhx4/ |
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| 13:36.51 | petn-randall | Absolute0: Just to clarify: business.org.2.0001.arsmtp.com is the mailserver of your client? And max@business.org is your client's mail address? |
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| 13:37.10 | Absolute0 | petn-randall: yup |
| 13:37.26 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | I'm wondering why, after dch --bpo "", a source package fails to build with debuild |
| 13:37.32 | petn-randall | Absolute0: They need to fix their setup, the mail will then be delivered automatically. Nothing you can do. |
| 13:37.36 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | missing some usr/share/... files in debian/tmp |
| 13:37.45 | Absolute0 | petn-randall: don't try those since they are fake. |
| 13:37.50 | Absolute0 | petn-randall: thanks. |
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| 13:38.11 | petn-randall | Absolute0: You're welcome :) |
| 13:38.26 | petn-randall | IlIlIlIlIlIlI: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net might be a better place to ask. |
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| 13:40.56 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | whoa, whole 260 people in there, will get my answer surely! thanks :) |
| 13:41.03 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | (no cynism here) |
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| 13:42.03 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | petn-randall: though, the topic says my question is irrelevant there |
| 13:43.32 | rnat | i wanted to point out some abnormal behavior in the 3.12 kernel in sid , seems like i would have to wait for an invitation from that channel -_- |
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| 13:47.13 | themill | rnat: #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net; bug reports go via bugs.debian.org and not via IRC |
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| 14:15.48 | Kuba | why isc-dhcp-server-ldap conflicts with isc-dhcp-client? :( |
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| 14:19.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell Kuba -about bat |
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| 14:21.31 | Kuba | babilen: okay, my isc-dhcp-client wasn't updated to the newest version |
| 14:21.33 | Kuba | babilen: thx |
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| 14:22.30 | babilen | Kuba: np, sounds as if you are not running wheezy. is that the case? |
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| 14:22.57 | Kuba | babilen: no, it was wheezy live cd |
| 14:23.07 | Kuba | babilen: and I wanted to install isc dhcp server |
| 14:23.29 | Kuba | babilen: but it required newer version of isc-dhcp-common |
| 14:23.55 | Kuba | babilen: whereas already installed, and outdated, isc-dhcp-client wanted stictly older version |
| 14:24.03 | Kuba | ;) |
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| 14:26.27 | babilen | Kuba: Ah, fair enough. Rock on! :) |
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| 14:43.54 | afidegnum | hi, pls can you offer hands? I can send mails but I can't receive |
| 14:45.33 | babilen | Start by telling us all the steps you have tried so far (cf. http://mattgemmell.com/what-have-you-tried/ ) |
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| 14:46.32 | str3 | why are tiling wms so pointless |
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| 14:46.47 | mtn | str3: why is the sky blue? |
| 14:47.10 | babilen | str3: Do you need help with anything in particular? |
| 14:47.11 | str3 | it isnt, space is black |
| 14:47.21 | str3 | babilen: no, no issues, i just find it meh |
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| 14:47.33 | str3 | maybe if i could activate it purely for terminals, it might be useful |
| 14:47.41 | babilen | Then please whine elsewhere ;) |
| 14:47.48 | str3 | such as? |
| 14:48.21 | babilen | #defocus comes to mind, but /dev/null might be a better choice. This is certainly not the right place :) |
| 14:48.33 | str3 | k |
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| 14:55.36 | Absolute0 | If I run a webapp on port 5000, do I need to do anything other than enable port 5000 on my router to get the other computers on the network to see it? |
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| 14:56.13 | Absolute0 | If I try 192.168.1.6:5000 from 192.168.1.5, it fails. But localhost:5000 works |
| 14:56.41 | Absolute0 | If I try 192.168.1.6:5000 from 192.168.1.6, it fails. But localhost:5000 works |
| 14:56.42 | Absolute0 | sorry |
| 14:56.57 | Absolute0 | I enabled port forwarding for 192.168.1.6 5000 |
| 14:57.07 | stew | Absolute0: what ip address is the service bound to? |
| 14:57.13 | Absolute0 | 5000 |
| 14:57.21 | stew | that's not an ip address, that's a port number |
| 14:57.26 | Absolute0 | 192.168.1.6 |
| 14:57.32 | stew | how did you check that? |
| 14:57.41 | Absolute0 | ip addr show, under wlan0 |
| 14:57.55 | Absolute0 | inet 192.168.1.6/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global wlan0 |
| 14:57.58 | stew | that shows the ip of a interface, not what ip the service is listening to |
| 14:58.09 | stew | try "netstat -plant | grep :5000" |
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| 14:58.15 | Absolute0 | ah I need my global ip... |
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| 14:58.39 | stew | you'll see something like 127.0.0.1:5000 or 192.168.1.6:5000 or ::1:5000... |
| 14:58.49 | Absolute0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.00 | stew | right, so it's only listening to localhost |
| 14:59.04 | Absolute0 | I got it, I need to do 0.0.0.0 |
| 14:59.07 | Absolute0 | thanks! |
| 14:59.08 | Absolute0 | :) |
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| 15:09.24 | oznt | hi guys, can someone help me figure this out? |
| 15:09.27 | oznt | http://paste.debian.net/75027/ |
| 15:09.36 | oznt | thunderbird won't launch ... |
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| 15:11.00 | stew | oznt: the file not found error is likely coming from some shared library it can't find |
| 15:11.04 | jordanm | oznt: ldd thunderbird-bin |
| 15:11.06 | stew | oznt: try "ldd ./thunderbird" |
| 15:11.16 | jordanm | stew: thunderbird is a shell script |
| 15:11.20 | stew | ok, then :) |
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| 15:14.54 | oznt | oh, now I get it, the mozilla website gave me a i686 binary but i needed the amd64 binary |
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| 15:16.13 | JuanDaugherty | has a problem building against libstdc++ on wheezy that doesn't show on squeeze and which he thinks may be multiarch related |
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| 15:17.17 | afidegnum | hi, please on my server, I can send mail but i can't receive. can anyone please help? how do i fix that? |
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| 15:17.38 | JuanDaugherty | using postfix? |
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| 15:20.36 | afidegnum | JuanDaugherty: yes i think so |
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| 15:20.49 | afidegnum | how do i find out? |
| 15:21.15 | JuanDaugherty | /etc/init.d/postfix status |
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| 15:22.06 | afidegnum | ok |
| 15:22.48 | afidegnum | postfix is running |
| 15:23.11 | wols_ | afidegnum: why did you install postfix? |
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| 15:24.56 | babilen | afidegnum: Start by telling us all the steps you have tried so far (cf. http://mattgemmell.com/what-have-you-tried/ ) |
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| 15:25.16 | linuxator | how to connevt to debian irc server OFTC? |
| 15:25.26 | afidegnum | it was requested with installation of DTC from GPLhost |
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| 15:25.52 | afidegnum | wols_: it was a bundle installation |
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| 15:29.03 | wols_ | afidegnum: of what? not debian afaik |
| 15:29.20 | afidegnum | debian squeeze |
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| 15:35.07 | afidegnum | please I am trying to diagnose the issue, but can't find my head. can you pelase give hand? |
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| 15:36.41 | afidegnum | hi, pleease here is the mail reply I got... http://pastebin.com/h0sVL1Mr |
| 15:36.51 | jordanm | oznt: the mozilla pre-built binaries are all i686, you need 32bit libraries on your amd64 system |
| 15:36.57 | jordanm | !tell oznt about multiarch |
| 15:37.01 | afidegnum | I don't know if it's due to the hostname or anything else. |
| 15:37.22 | wols_ | it's due to you not having configured your Cyrus imap server |
| 15:37.32 | wols_ | or rather, local delivery |
| 15:37.42 | wols_ | line 13 |
| 15:38.21 | oznt | jordanm, i found 64bit binaries |
| 15:38.37 | oznt | http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest/linux-x86_64/en-US/thunderbird-24.2.0.tar.bz2 |
| 15:38.41 | afidegnum | wols_: Cyrus, does it deliver or receive mails? |
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| 15:38.58 | jordanm | cool, guess they do build them now |
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| 15:39.53 | Absolute0 | What was the fix to get vim cursor to work properly in debian? |
| 15:39.56 | wols_ | it's your imap server. it stores mails |
| 15:40.07 | oznt | jordanm, never the less, i added the i386 architechture, but how do i install ia32 libs? cant find this package for jessie |
| 15:40.07 | Absolute0 | If you have a large monitor, the cursor doesn't register past a certain column. |
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| 15:40.35 | afidegnum | wols_: ok, thanks, so is there anything else that can be used apart from cyrus? |
| 15:40.57 | jordanm | oznt: libc6:i386 |
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| 15:41.04 | jordanm | oznt: see the multiarch wiki page |
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| 15:43.35 | wols_ | afidegnum: dovecot. or nothing at all |
| 15:43.52 | afidegnum | ok, checking |
| 15:44.01 | wols_ | afidegnum: but it still needs configuration. manual configuration. a mailserver is not something you can't apt-get |
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| 15:44.50 | afidegnum | ok |
| 15:45.06 | afidegnum | I wanted to get rid if cyrus and install dovecot as said |
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| 15:48.18 | afidegnum_ | I was disconnectd |
| 15:48.25 | afidegnum_ | wols_: what d you think? |
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| 16:11.05 | ausjke_ | when i boot wheezy I saw "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'", however after boot I can restart mysql without errors, why is that |
| 16:11.33 | utopian | Hi. Can someone tell me if this is how one is supposed to add an ipv6 and ipv4 static ip to an interface? It doesn't seem to be working. The ipv4 part works. http://codepad.org/is2qc8ik |
| 16:11.50 | ausjke_ | this is repeatable, each reboot gave me errors on mysql, but it seems still running, /var/log/mysql.* showed no errors(just in syslog) |
| 16:11.59 | JoeE | has anyone here worked with the cciss scsi driver for the hp smart array controller? I'm trying to increase drive performance on my raid 10 array and my raid 5 array, but don't know what else to do to get the random access read beyond 40 mb/sec |
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| 16:12.09 | ausjke_ | and each manual mysql runs without issues, i can also access mysql after the boot |
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| 16:12.48 | petn-randall | JoeE: Are you hitting the hardware limit? |
| 16:13.08 | JoeE | no, I don't believe so. The drives are 15k rpm |
| 16:13.32 | ausjke_ | could this be a race condition of some sort? |
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| 16:13.55 | ausjke_ | service stop mysql will clear /var/run/mysqld/* as expected |
| 16:14.17 | JoeE | I believe the SA 641 controller supports 360mb/sec across all 6 bays |
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| 16:15.16 | shingouz | ausjke_: comes into my mind that there is a remote posiblity that mysql starts too early in the boot process. did you install it the debian way or was it some other type of install? |
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| 16:16.12 | shingouz | JoeE: just for giggles, check the terminations on the system |
| 16:16.34 | JoeE | scsi terminators? |
| 16:16.50 | shingouz | JoeE: correct. |
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| 16:17.16 | JoeE | that was the first thing I checked, and I even replaced a blank in case that may be the issue |
| 16:18.08 | JoeE | my raid 10 is getting around 100mb/sec - I would expect a raid 10 with 2 73gb 15k rpm drives to get at least 150mb/sec on average |
| 16:18.38 | shingouz | you sure all the cabling is correct? I also seem to remember that some systems wanted terminators pretty much everywhere |
| 16:19.11 | JoeE | the raid 5 has 3 73gb 15k's as well. the drives are mounted in the hot-swappable bays and the remaining empty bay has a blank in it |
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| 16:19.15 | shingouz | JoeE: these two raids are on the same controller? |
| 16:19.33 | JoeE | yes, that is correct; same controller |
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| 16:20.28 | JoeE | the raid 10 array contains /boot, grub, and main root fs. the raid 5 array contains /home and /var |
| 16:20.33 | shingouz | any weird and wonderful proprietary setup utility available that might mess up the speed settings for one array, yet leave the other correctly configured? |
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| 16:21.27 | shingouz | JoeE: i am talking something along the lines of the EISA or MCA configuration utilities that needed to be booted up separately before even installing the o/s on the box |
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| 16:21.55 | JoeE | nope, nothing like that outside of a proprietary driver that I loaded on a usb stick during install |
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| 16:23.12 | JoeE | I'm pretty sure it has something to do with tweaking the read_ahead_cache, nr_requests and friends, but I'm not very familiar with the other settings nor what values they should have |
| 16:23.49 | freeroute | hi, would you recommend me installing Virtualbox from the repo's (Debian 7 stable) or downloading it from virtualbox.org? I'm going to run it headless on a server and experiment hosting a website. |
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| 16:24.09 | shingouz | JoeE: unless that is a production system, play with it. on the other hand, why a proprietary driver? linux doesn't have anything for that thing? |
| 16:24.54 | JoeE | I don't recall what the driver was for, but the installation prompted me for it |
| 16:25.28 | babilen | freeroute: I'd recommend using virt-manager and kvm, but the version from the Debian repositories should be fine. We won't support the other and you would have to take it to upstream if you have (any!) problems. |
| 16:25.29 | JoeE | I prob could have gotten by without it; I think it had something to do with the on-board scsi controller (which I am not using) |
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| 16:25.45 | babilen | judd: v virtualbox |
| 16:25.46 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.2.16-dfsg-3~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.2-dfsg-1; sid/contrib: 4.3.2-dfsg-1 |
| 16:26.01 | babilen | freeroute: Note that there is a version in wheezy-backports ^^ |
| 16:26.04 | shingouz | JoeE: "the installation" being...? the debian installer? |
| 16:26.17 | JoeE | correct, the debian installer |
| 16:27.16 | shingouz | hmm |
| 16:27.17 | ausjke_ | http://pastebin.com/Yz4Q9TMX can someone help to check the mysql/wheezy log? it always fails now at boot-up time |
| 16:27.48 | ausjke_ | however i can restart mysqld after boot-up, and apps are running fine, but the err is wierd |
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| 16:28.31 | freeroute | babilen: Yeah I definitely want to experiment with KVM in the future. But what do you mean with the upstream? The main development version of Virtualbox? (in this case at Oracle?) |
| 16:28.41 | afidegnum | please what is the cause and how do I fix maildrop: Temporary authentication failure |
| 16:29.02 | shingouz | JoeE: this does sound strange. you are saying that you have two arrays hanging off the same hw raid controller and both arrays are on the same scsi chain. the other works as planned, the other doesn't? |
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| 16:29.13 | JoeE | ausjke_: does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist, and if so what are the ownership detains and permissions? |
| 16:29.14 | utopian | I'ma GI I'ma GI |
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| 16:29.38 | babilen | freeroute: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstream_(software_development) -- I was referring to the virtualbox developers and meant that you would have to seek support with their packages in #vbox -- the Debian packages should be fine though |
| 16:29.46 | ausjke_ | -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 5 Jan 8 10:23 mysqld.pid |
| 16:29.55 | ausjke_ | srwxrwxrwx 1 mysql mysql 0 Jan 8 10:23 mysqld.sock |
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| 16:30.10 | JoeE | shingouz: yep, that about sums it up. I'd expect a performance hit on the raid 5 simply due to the redundancy, but a 60mb/sec loss is rather steep imo |
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| 16:30.27 | JoeE | ausjke_: can you connect via the mysql command? |
| 16:31.17 | ausjke_ | JoeE: yes |
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| 16:31.26 | ausjke_ | after boot up, i can start/stop mysqld, and connect to it |
| 16:31.30 | babilen | freeroute: And there really isn't much to experiment with KVM/virt-manager/virsh as you can just use it ;) |
| 16:31.40 | freeroute | babilen: ah thanks, so upstream is basically the original unforked software project? |
| 16:31.59 | freeroute | babilen: yeah but I haven't used them before (only VBox on desktop) |
| 16:32.09 | ausjke_ | JoeE: i can connect to them right away after initial login, also my drupal which uses mysql seems running ok |
| 16:32.17 | ausjke_ | JoeE: it's just the bootup err is odd |
| 16:32.26 | freeroute | also I'm on a limited time in which I have to finish a project :( |
| 16:34.04 | JoeE | ausjke_: sounds like a configuration problem with /usr/bin/mysqladmin then. You might want to check /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to confirm that it is correct. I'm guessing that the password information in there is incorrect/corrupt |
| 16:34.12 | shingouz | JoeE: it's been a long time since i played with scsi raids, all my more interesting boxes are sitting in storage as per instructions from mrs shingouz. i am suspecting some setup error in the scsi chains, the raid setup on the controller; ála bios setting or maybe some goof on the scsi cabling. sorry that i cannot really offer any additional help |
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| 16:34.52 | JoeE | shingouz: no problem. I appreciate the attempt nevertheless :) |
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| 16:35.07 | ausjke_ | JoeE: debian.cnf is auto generated |
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| 16:35.23 | ausjke_ | JoeE: and I'm using the default my.cnf |
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| 16:35.41 | JoeE | ausjke_: right; did you change the password at all? debian.cnf has nothing to do with my.cnf |
| 16:35.49 | Celphish | small weird question, I've got 2 .pl-scripts in a folder on my irssi-machine (using debian) and I've created 2 symlinks (with ln -s) and when I run ls in that folder one of the files is blue and one is red, anyone got an idea om why? |
| 16:36.01 | babilen | freeroute: Yeah, sure. I'd just use the packages from Debian (wheezy or wheezy-backports) and be done with it. Can't comment on the upstream packages. |
| 16:36.11 | babilen | dpkg: tell freeroute -about vbox |
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| 16:36.38 | afidegnum | please here is my myster.cf can you please give a hand? http://pastebin.com/t4LpVQvG currently maildrop is giving authetication failure maildrop -d designslads@gmail.com maildrop: Temporary authentication failure. |
| 16:36.40 | ausjke_ | JoeE: why do you mean? i used the same root password for mysql, by the way, how to update debian.cnf just in case? |
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| 16:36.54 | ausjke_ | i can mysql -u root -p just fine |
| 16:36.58 | ausjke_ | same password |
| 16:37.08 | JoeE | Celphish: sounds like one symlink is broken, but the man page for your shell under the section colors should help |
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| 16:37.22 | js | hi! I'm wondering if Debian for SH4 is still being maintained? |
| 16:37.59 | JoeE | ausjke_: I'm not sure how to regenerate that file; maybe try apt-file search debian.cnf, then purge and re-install the package that provides it (unless that package is mysql-server) |
| 16:38.05 | afidegnum | any answer please? |
| 16:38.14 | ausjke_ | http://blog.janjonas.net/2010-02-25/ubuntu-reset-debian-sys-maint-mysql-password |
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| 16:38.35 | ausjke_ | JoeE: the above blog mentioned how to do that, but syslog did not mention 'debian-sys-maint' access error so it might not be relevant |
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| 16:39.37 | ausjke_ | and again i can manually restart mysql afterwards |
| 16:39.48 | JoeE | ausjke_: does that user exist in mysql? |
| 16:39.50 | ausjke_ | maybe i can just ignore it for now, though it makes me nervous |
| 16:40.02 | ausjke_ | JoeE: how to check that? |
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| 16:40.07 | freeroute | babilen: thanks, I'll check it out :) |
| 16:40.17 | ausjke_ | i would think debian-sys-maint should be in mysql, it's system default? |
| 16:40.18 | JoeE | show all grants or show grants, something like that |
| 16:40.36 | freeroute | !ask dpkg -about how do I install only one package from backports or other repo? |
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| 16:40.53 | freeroute | oops |
| 16:41.11 | freeroute | dpkg: ask how do I install only one package from backports or other repo? |
| 16:41.13 | dpkg | freeroute: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 16:41.25 | freeroute | oh |
| 16:41.26 | ChrisH | freeroute /msg dpkg backports |
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| 16:41.40 | freeroute | thanks |
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| 16:45.16 | Celphish | JoeE: I re-created the symlink and tabbed my way to the names and it's still red.. weird |
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| 16:46.00 | jhutchins | Celphish: Nothing prevents you from creating an invalid symlink. |
| 16:46.27 | Celphish | jhutchins: I don't understand, I did the exact same thing with another script that seems to be fine |
| 16:46.30 | trueneu | Hi. I have a couple of php5-dev packages, versions 5.3.8 (from official repo) and 5.4.23 (from dotdeb). 5.3.8 is installed, but I can't upgrade it (by `apt-get install php5-dev`), apt tells me that the newest version is already installed. |
| 16:46.40 | trueneu | How do I upgrade the package? |
| 16:46.48 | wols_ | !dotdeb |
| 16:46.48 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
| 16:46.54 | jhutchins | !dotdeb |
| 16:47.25 | jhutchins | Heh. |
| 16:47.41 | jhutchins | trueneu: dotdeb does not have a very good reputation here. |
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| 16:48.53 | trueneu | jhutchins, got it. :) |
| 16:50.15 | ChrisH | ausjke_: the reset pw link looks OK to me. you can check it as follows. get the password from debian.cnf log into mysql and run SELECT PASSWORD ('PW-FROM-debian.cnf'); compare that to the PW visible in SELECT User,Host,Password FROM user; |
| 16:50.37 | ChrisH | ausjke_: if they match, the issue is somewhere else. if not simply adjust them. |
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| 16:51.37 | ofeby | what filesystem is recommended nowadays for USB keys that shall also be readable on great systems like windows? vfat or something else? |
| 16:52.36 | ksk | ofeby: ntfs Id say |
| 16:53.08 | ofeby | ksk: isn't ntfs support on UNIX systems still in beta status? |
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| 16:53.30 | ksk | ofeby: some years ago maybe. just use fuse(+ntfs-3g) works fine and stable |
| 16:53.38 | ksk | !tell ofeby about ntfs-3g |
| 16:54.05 | babilen | How is NTFS support on OSX? |
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| 16:54.32 | ksk | afaik write acc4ess only possible with tools you have to pay for |
| 16:54.38 | ksk | but this is #debian ;) |
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| 16:55.26 | ausjke_ | ChrisH: it seems like someone hashed the password for mysql into debian.cnf |
| 16:55.31 | ausjke_ | if I do |
| 16:55.33 | afidegnum | please how do I find my SMTP info on my system? using debian squeeze |
| 16:55.50 | ausjke_ | mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p with my un-hashed passworkd i can connect, otherwise it will fail |
| 16:56.29 | ausjke_ | ChrisH: not sure why that happens, i don't know why debian.cnf got hashed instead clear-text password |
| 16:56.35 | ofeby | have a read a bit about ntfs support on Linux; am not perfectly satisfied with it, so what's the second choice? vfat, fat32 or what? |
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| 16:57.03 | ausjke_ | mysqladmin --defaults-file=/tmp/debian-cleartext-password.cnf ping |
| 16:57.11 | ausjke_ | works |
| 16:57.14 | Bronze | afidegnum: SMTP is "Simple Mail Transport Protocol" its not a program, it's a 'way" for programs to send mail. |
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| 16:57.24 | bl4ckdu5t | The virtualization software(vmware and vbox) are failing to show USB devices within them on my deb7.2 |
| 16:57.51 | Bronze | afidegnum: you kind of need to ask a better question or ask a question at a simpler level |
| 16:57.52 | bl4ckdu5t | Is there something to be configured to allow the USB devices to be released to these virtualization software? |
| 16:58.19 | JoeE | Celphish: are you sure the source file exists? |
| 16:58.33 | afidegnum | I am running an installation and i am asked about my SMTP server username and password |
| 16:58.43 | afidegnum | which I am not aware of yet, even though I ran installations thre |
| 16:58.45 | ofeby | !tell afidegnum about squeeze->wheezy |
| 16:59.15 | Bronze | afidegnum: That installation tool is assuming depths of knowledge and purposes that you do nothave. |
| 16:59.27 | ausjke_ | I'm thinking this as a wheezy-bug now |
| 16:59.35 | Bronze | afidegnum: where do you get youremail now |
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| 16:59.50 | afidegnum | I am using squeeze not wheezy |
| 17:00.15 | afidegnum | I have postfix, dovecot, and cyrus installed |
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| 17:00.35 | Celphish | JoeE: Like I said, I ran ln -s, then tabbed to the file-name and then the folder and then wrote the symlink-name manually |
| 17:00.44 | Bronze | afidegnum: Do you get your email from gmail? yahoo? Hotmail, your isp, Or do you have your own domain name and email address? |
| 17:01.12 | JoeE | Celphish: can you paste the ln command you ran? |
| 17:01.13 | ofeby | afidegnum: Since squeeze is very old, it is recommended to upgrade; that's why I tols the bot to send you the appropriate instructions |
| 17:01.18 | afidegnum | Bronze: I have my own dedicated server |
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| 17:01.20 | ofeby | *told |
| 17:01.52 | ausjke_ | not sure if this helps, but 'select user from mysql.user' showed 3 root users |
| 17:01.56 | afidegnum | I wanted to upgrade but the core application i have is built on squeeze, if I upgrate now, all programms installed will gone into ashes |
| 17:02.38 | Bronze | afidegnum: #1 sounds like ofevy is giving goodadvice. #2 - I suspect the install software has assumed that you get your email from a service like gmail and do not have your own email server, which, according to your answer, you do. |
| 17:02.41 | Celphish | JoeE: ln -s awaylogcnt.pl autorun/awaylogcnt.pl (ran it from .irssi/scripts |
| 17:02.57 | Bronze | *ofeby |
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| 17:03.29 | JoeE | Celphish: try creating your symlink using full paths |
| 17:03.49 | afidegnum | Bronze: no |
| 17:04.24 | afidegnum | #2 I have installed postix, dovecot and cyrus. I can send email from my dedicated server all rigth |
| 17:04.30 | afidegnum | but I can't reeive a mail |
| 17:04.35 | afidegnum | that's the issue i am facing |
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| 17:04.47 | Celphish | JoeE: solved it! went into the autorun-folder and ran "ln -s ../awaylogcnt.pl awaylogcnt.pl" and that made it blue :D |
| 17:04.50 | Celphish | thanks! |
| 17:04.52 | Celphish | afk |
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| 17:05.27 | Bronze | afidegnum: turn on very verbose logging in your SMTP server (postfix?) and send yourself an email from a freeemail service, like gmail etc.. |
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| 17:05.54 | Bronze | afidegnum: also make sure that DNS knows what IP your server is at. |
| 17:06.03 | diazepan | Why every time I try to install some executable wine returns me 'BAD EXE FORMAT'? I'm running Debian x64 |
| 17:06.24 | ChrisH | ausjke_: I had this a while ago and was unable to determine why. It can happen during an upgrade or ... |
| 17:06.28 | afidegnum | Bronze: I don't get that one please. where do I set teh verboze loging? |
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| 17:06.57 | shingouz | diazepan: maybe you are trying to install a 64-bit exe. i believe wine only does 32 bits |
| 17:06.58 | Bronze | afidegnum: in the config for whatever SMTP server you are using (postfix?) |
| 17:07.06 | wols_ | diazepan: windows x32 or x64 binaries? |
| 17:08.05 | diazepan | wols_: all |
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| 17:10.16 | afidegnum | Bronze: I m using postfix |
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| 17:10.25 | afidegnum | where is it's configuration file ? |
| 17:10.32 | afidegnum | is it the master.conf ? |
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| 17:12.48 | ausjke_ | ChrisH: how did you fix that, manually edit debian.cnf? as otherwise it is having the hash password |
| 17:13.41 | ChrisH | ausjke_: your blog entries is very clear on this. get the PW from debian.conf and set it in MySQL for the user. |
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| 17:15.25 | Bronze | afidegnum: I don't know postfix. I only use sendmail (since 1985) |
| 17:15.34 | hfp | Hi! I have two debian 7.2 servers, I have SSH access to both (but they don't have SSH access to each other). I need to compare the output of dpkg -l of both servers. I am somewhat novice when it comes to Linux. Is there a command I don't know off that could do this without involving a lot of copy pasting? |
| 17:15.52 | Bronze | afidegnum: I understand postfix has good documentation. Have you tried reading the man page forit? |
| 17:15.53 | hfp | of* |
| 17:16.22 | afidegnum | Bronze: yes, i did read many times |
| 17:16.45 | Bronze | and they never say where the config file is? |
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| 17:17.02 | shingouz | hfp: dpkg --get-selections > preferred.filename, scp both files to your home computer, run a diff on them is one possiblity |
| 17:17.03 | Bronze | or what the config gui tool is (if there is one) |
| 17:17.03 | ChrisH | hfp: ssh SERVER1 dpkg -l > dpkg.SERVER1 ; ssh SERVER2 dpkg -l > dpkg.SERVER2 ; diff dpkg.SERVER1 dpkg.SERVER2 |
| 17:17.24 | ChrisH | hfp: --get-selections might be the better choice |
| 17:18.07 | Bronze | afidegnum: did you google for it? |
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| 17:18.23 | Bronze | afidegnum: I just did, and the answer was readily available. |
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| 17:18.56 | Bronze | rude bugger |
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| 17:19.31 | jhutchins | afidegnum: In order to receive mail, someone has to send it to you. |
| 17:19.44 | jhutchins | afidegnum: ISPs sometime block port 25 (Comcast does). |
| 17:20.18 | Bronze | comcast? who dat? |
| 17:20.34 | afidegnum | well, I am on hetzner |
| 17:20.41 | afidegnum | they are in Germany |
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| 17:22.44 | hfp | shingouz, ChrisH : Thanks |
| 17:23.04 | ausjke_ | ChrisH: sigh, even after i modify debian.cnf to make it clear-text, boot up still errs, though again after boot-up everything is fine |
| 17:23.09 | av0idz | hetzner does not block port 25 afidegnum to be sure, do you use an vps or an dedicated server |
| 17:23.12 | ausjke_ | i will ignore it for now, no more time on that debugging |
| 17:23.17 | frostschutz | afidegnum, maybe a dns (mx) issue? hetzner don't block anything, so it'll be something on your end |
| 17:23.32 | afidegnum | av0idz: deidcated server |
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| 17:23.41 | afidegnum | my mx is mx.alexprohost.com |
| 17:23.46 | av0idz | sure sending mail should work |
| 17:24.00 | afidegnum | yes, I can send mails all right |
| 17:24.07 | afidegnum | but can't be receiving them |
| 17:24.09 | av0idz | maybe check your iptables config and try to send a mail with the command line tool mail |
| 17:24.40 | av0idz | oh so just receiving is the problem |
| 17:24.40 | av0idz | sry just entererd the conversation |
| 17:24.40 | afidegnum | av0idz: how do I do that please? |
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| 17:25.29 | ChrisH | ausjke_: I need to leave now. You should take the pw from debian.cnf and set it using PASSWORD(PW-FROM-debian.cnf) |
| 17:25.55 | av0idz | well afidegnum simplest solution o can think of try telnetting to port 25 of your server |
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| 17:26.11 | av0idz | watch out for a greeting line |
| 17:26.12 | Kuba | hey |
| 17:26.18 | afidegnum | telnet localhost port 25 ? |
| 17:26.26 | Kuba | is /etc/apt/sources.list required? or am I fine with sources.list.d files? |
| 17:26.33 | av0idz | no you should do that from another machine |
| 17:26.37 | av0idz | not from localhost |
| 17:26.47 | av0idz | as you want to receive mails from the outer internet ;) |
| 17:27.03 | av0idz | if that fails check your IP or MX Domain name with this service: http://mxtoolbox.com/diagnostic.aspx |
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| 17:28.26 | jhutchins | afidegnum: Do you have a valid MX record in a public DNS server pointing to your host? |
| 17:28.28 | afidegnum | ok, |
| 17:28.39 | afidegnum | yes, I believe |
| 17:29.17 | afidegnum | during the installation I checked and it gave me correct results |
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| 17:29.52 | teraflops | so many people this times setting up mail servers i wonder why but i think i know the answer |
| 17:30.36 | Kuba | is it safe to remove /etc/apt/sources.list and rely solely on /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*? |
| 17:30.39 | jhutchins | afidegnum: mx.alexprohost.com is your server? |
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| 17:30.47 | afidegnum | yes |
| 17:30.53 | ScottE | teraflops: yes, and yet people don't understand that the S in SMTP does *not* mean secure :-) |
| 17:31.07 | teraflops | yeah ScottE i think so |
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| 17:31.24 | afidegnum | ScottE: Eeeeh... who said that? |
| 17:32.13 | afidegnum | av0idz: here is the test rsult. Reverse DNS does not contain the hostname, Reverse DNS mismatch The hostname was not found in the reverse dns lookup. In other words, the PTR for your server IP address (reverse lookup) does not match the DNS name (forward lookup). |
| 17:32.29 | jhutchins | afidegnum: What's a valid address on that server? |
| 17:32.50 | ScottE | afidegnum: nobody here, but the point is that many people set up their own mail server thinking it will somehow be more secure |
| 17:33.17 | afidegnum | ah, lol, well it depends on who's concept :) |
| 17:33.37 | afidegnum | jhutchins: I used either my domain or my IP address |
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| 17:33.52 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.54 | jhutchins | afidegnum: The server is running on that addres and is accepting connections. If you give me a valid username I will try to send mail. |
| 17:34.32 | afidegnum | support@alexprohost.com |
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| 17:34.40 | ScottE | teraflops: exactly! |
| 17:35.01 | afidegnum | here is the previous mail response http://pastebin.com/h0sVL1Mr |
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| 17:37.03 | ausjke_ | shingouz: i installed it the debian way, on linode |
| 17:37.26 | afidegnum | jhutchins: have you seen it ? |
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| 17:49.33 | afidegnum | can anyone offer a hand please ? I am stuch here. |
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| 17:51.32 | Mongo44 | I would like to install Debian in VBox. Does anyone know how? |
| 17:51.57 | brontosaurusrex | Mongo44, like any other iso |
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| 17:58.11 | porton | When to expect seamless SELinux support? It is absolutely needed for my project which will turn Web upside down |
| 17:58.13 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : porton : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
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| 17:58.28 | porton | Maxuma: I don't know this language |
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| 17:59.49 | jelly-home | it's ugroturkish! |
| 17:59.50 | porton | Now after enabling SELinux XWindows or GDM does not work on my machine (so I turned SELinux off) |
| 18:00.26 | Kuba | sorry for repeating my question, but... is it safe to remove /etc/apt/sources.list and rely solely on /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*? |
| 18:00.26 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : Kuba : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
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| 18:01.10 | jelly-home | !tr |
| 18:01.10 | dpkg | i heard tr is t�rk�e yardIm i�in #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:01.23 | xand | dpkg: fix your encoding. |
| 18:01.24 | dpkg | takes your encoding. to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 18:01.33 | porton | Kuba: If you remove ANY config file, upgrading a package will recreate it again. Better make it an empty file |
| 18:02.00 | Kuba | porton: right |
| 18:02.28 | Mongo44 | I have an Intel CPU that mean I choose ia64 install? |
| 18:02.35 | jelly-home | Mongo44: no, use amd64 |
| 18:02.40 | lroe | I have an embedded device that supports scp. It will automatically scp a config file to a host (debian) when the config is changed. I would like the debian host to be able to store historical versions of the config file. Is there something I can configure on the debian side that will perform a rotation everytime the embedded device attempts to push a new copy of hte config? |
| 18:02.41 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : lroe : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
| 18:02.47 | jelly-home | !ops Maxuma spam |
| 18:02.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: Maxuma spam |
| 18:02.50 | Kuba | jelly-home: kickban Maxuma? |
| 18:02.57 | jelly-home | Kuba: not an op |
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| 18:03.04 | Kuba | jelly-home: sry, thought you are |
| 18:03.25 | Kuba | !help ops |
| 18:03.46 | Mongo44 | jelly-home, ok thanks. |
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| 18:04.11 | jelly-home | Kuba: that like above alerted them already |
| 18:04.14 | jelly-home | line* |
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| 18:04.35 | porton | Which release goal is to make SELinux really work? |
| 18:04.54 | porton | (timeline: year, two years, ...?) |
| 18:05.05 | Mongo44 | I guess I will do a network install as I don't want it on another storage medium. |
| 18:05.06 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : Mongo44 : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
| 18:05.24 | Kuba | jelly-home: just wanted to check which bot handles it and what are other availalbe commands |
| 18:05.38 | Kuba | jelly-home: but it seems that dpkg didn't find !ops |
| 18:05.39 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : Kuba : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
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| 18:05.45 | Mongo44 | Maxuma, sorry I don't understand foreign languages. |
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| 18:06.42 | Mongo44 | It says the network install is more difficult. Is it really? |
| 18:07.03 | porton | Mongo44: It isn't (unless you have a trouble configuring network) |
| 18:07.04 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : porton : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
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| 18:07.38 | tonyt | someone should learn english it looks like |
| 18:07.38 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : tonyt : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
| 18:07.52 | Mongo44 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.08 | jelly-home | Mongo44: don't do that, just /ignore the bot |
| 18:08.25 | Mongo44 | Ok sorry. |
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| 18:10.58 | Mongo44 | I selected amd64 but I am not sure if it is downloading. |
| 18:10.58 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : Mongo44 : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
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| 18:12.52 | Mongo44 | It should be right? There is a progress bar that says: Current bandwidth utilization 204.92 Mbit/s |
| 18:13.56 | Mongo44 | The bar is static however. It is not increasing. |
| 18:14.00 | Maxuma | [ U y a r ý ] : Mongo44 : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim... |
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| 18:16.48 | Mongo44 | Damn it I don't think it is working. It sent me to a German site abbreviated SNT. |
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| 18:18.38 | Mongo44 | Alright I can select mini.iso, netboot.tar.gz, and pxelinux.0. Which one do I choose? |
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| 18:21.26 | abrotman | wtf is that? |
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| 18:22.37 | Mongo44 | abrotman, what? |
| 18:22.48 | abrotman | carry on |
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| 18:23.30 | Mongo44 | How should I proceed? |
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| 18:23.51 | jelly-home | Mongo44: what site are you browsing? |
| 18:24.04 | Mongo44 | This is what I am looking at: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ |
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| 18:24.33 | zinx | Mongo44: you want network installer most likely, not network boot |
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| 18:25.30 | jelly-home | Mongo44: if you really want to download from a local mirror, take a pick from http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#mirrors |
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| 18:26.09 | Mongo44 | jelly-home, as opposed to installing with the terminal? |
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| 18:26.30 | aixsyd | Hey there guys - i'm having a hell of a time with eth devices - hope someone can help |
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| 18:26.57 | aixsyd | ive got a dell 2950 with non-free bnx2 NIC's - and every time i boot, they should up as "rename" devices |
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| 18:27.24 | aixsyd | I've delete the 70-persistent-net rules file, and it works after a reboot - but subsequent reboots, they go back to rename |
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| 18:27.36 | Mongo44 | jelly-home, I want to install to my hard drive not another storage medium. |
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| 18:27.54 | jelly-home | Mongo44: that's what most people do. |
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| 18:28.20 | Mongo44 | jelly-home, install to CD or jump drive? |
| 18:28.33 | jelly-home | Mongo44: install to hd |
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| 18:29.31 | jelly-home | Mongo44: look, grab the netinst .iso for amd64, attach it to the vbox virtual cd/dvd, boot from that and install to the virtual hd |
| 18:29.38 | jelly-home | it's not rocket science |
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| 18:30.33 | Mongo44 | Ok so I don't need an additional storage medium to install an iso. |
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| 18:32.05 | jelly-home | that'd be silly |
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| 18:33.38 | raboof | how do I find out which file contains (for example) the font '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-100-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1' ? |
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| 18:34.11 | mcr1 | on the disk, or which package? |
| 18:34.20 | raboof | on the disk |
| 18:34.29 | mcr1 | xset q |
| 18:34.32 | mcr1 | will tell you the font path. |
| 18:35.10 | mcr1 | then there is an index in each dir that contains the full mapping. usually the filenames are relevant too. |
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| 18:35.31 | mcr1 | fonts.alias |
| 18:35.56 | mcr1 | so, grep /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.alias and all the other files in fontpath |
| 18:36.13 | raboof | cool thanks |
| 18:36.15 | mcr1 | er, maybe it's fonts.dir you want. |
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| 18:38.39 | Mongo44 | Cool, I used wget -c, typed the address, and it works. |
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| 18:41.54 | raboof | mcr1: hmm, for i in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi ; do grep "\-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13" $i/fonts.dir ; done" does give a list but none of those contains the font that I was able to select in xfontsel |
| 18:42.06 | raboof | with "for i in `locate fonts.dir`" neither |
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| 18:43.21 | raboof | xset has ':unscaled' for some directories - does X generate more options by scaling the fonts in the others? |
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| 18:43.52 | iateadonut | can you remount your home directory in the middle of an operation? |
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| 18:44.36 | iateadonut | mount -o remount /home |
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| 18:45.44 | iateadonut | i can do it on my laptop, but wondering if it's a good idea on a server that might have some processes running. (i need to enable ACL's) |
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| 18:46.22 | bullgard4 | !sound |
| 18:46.22 | dpkg | Ask me about <alsa>, <alsa checklist>. See also <default alsa>, <pulseaudio>. |
| 18:46.39 | bullgard4 | !alsa |
| 18:46.40 | dpkg | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) is a Linux kernel component providing device drivers for sound cards. Ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <default alsa>, <alsa firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:48.22 | mcr1 | raboof, are there any tcp sources for fonts? |
| 18:48.45 | mcr1 | X does scale/generate some fonts, and I seem to recall that the font server is now regularly used...? |
| 18:49.23 | raboof | mcr1: I don't remember setting up a font server, so probably no tcp source |
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| 18:51.23 | aixsyd | :( |
| 18:51.29 | Arroyo1010 | I'm trying to hide two partitions from showing on my desktop on Xfce. I'm using Jessie, Xfce 4.10. I've tried using udev rules, but they don't seem to trigger, or I'm using them wrong. I don't know in which direction to start troubleshooting seeing that Jessie is using systemd, and I don't know if that has anything to do with this. If someone could nudge me in the right direction, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you. |
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| 18:58.45 | r3m | ,v znc |
| 18:58.46 | judd | Package: znc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.092-3; wheezy: 0.206-2; jessie: 1.2-3; sid: 1.2-3 |
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| 19:02.57 | sandGorgon | Arroyo1010, jessie is using systemd ? where did u download it from ? |
| 19:03.08 | sandGorgon | i thought the decision is still pending |
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| 19:03.22 | jelly-home | only if you install it |
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| 19:07.02 | Arroyo1010 | sandGorgon, jelly-home, I've upgraded my wheezy installation. I don't recall installing systemd on wheezy, and yet it's installed on jessie. Actually, I'm not sure if systemd is being used |
| 19:09.13 | sandGorgon | Arroyo1010, just type "systemctl status" |
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| 19:10.41 | Arroyo1010 | Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. |
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| 19:11.53 | sandGorgon | you have systemd allright - but it has not been enabled. which means you are still on sysvinit |
| 19:12.14 | sandGorgon | surprising though - how you ended up with systemd |
| 19:12.40 | jelly-home | "aptitude why systemd" |
| 19:12.56 | jelly-home | or grep apt/aptitude/dpkg logs |
| 19:13.03 | sandGorgon | Arroyo1010, can you also type "ps -p 1 -o comm=" I want to verify sysvinit |
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| 19:14.07 | Arroyo1010 | output is "init" |
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| 19:23.10 | Randolph_Carter | Does anyone here know whether Windows 8 must be installed 1st on a drive that will be dual-booted with Linux? |
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| 19:25.08 | jhutchins | Randolph_Carter: It's usually easier. |
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| 19:25.24 | Randolph_Carter | Alright, thanks |
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| 19:39.30 | n2diy | How can I configure X to accept ctrl-alt-del as a shutdown -h now command? |
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| 19:40.19 | jhutchins | n2diy: The kernel should intercept that as shutdown -r now. |
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| 19:40.28 | jhutchins | n2diy: Used to be in inittab. |
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| 19:41.52 | n2diy | jhutchins, my understanding is X has to be configured to pass that command on, that is what I'm trying to figure out. |
| 19:42.06 | jhutchins | n2diy: # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. |
| 19:42.08 | jhutchins | ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now |
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| 19:44.50 | n2diy | jhutchins, I don't understand that? Is that an entry in a config file somewhere? |
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| 19:49.29 | Jarmer | I'm wondering if anyone can help me learn how to change the keychain "default" password...? I've changed my user account password, but I can't figure out where the keychain password can be chained? |
| 19:53.47 | relipse | how do i disable firewall? |
| 19:53.50 | relipse | or open port 9999 ? |
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| 19:54.12 | n2diy | jhutchins, found it, that IS an entry in /etc/inittab. |
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| 19:55.28 | jhutchins | Yup. |
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| 19:57.24 | jhutchins | relipse: Configure something to listen on it. |
| 19:58.00 | Euclidis_ | Greetings. |
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| 19:58.27 | Euclidis_ | Debian Kwheezy supports mobile broadband? |
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| 20:00.43 | rod156 | Euclidis_: Support for Mobile broadband in Debian depends on your hardware. |
| 20:01.54 | Euclidis_ | rod156: My modem was recognized as a device, meantime, doesn't connect even configuring everything correctly. |
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| 20:03.54 | rod156 | Euclidis_: What hardware modem is this? |
| 20:04.38 | bullgard4 | What is meant by »PM core« in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-3.2/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt? |
| 20:05.27 | Euclidis_ | huawei e3131, rod156 |
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| 20:05.41 | Euclidis_ | rod156: usb 3.0 connected. |
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| 20:11.59 | rod156 | Euclidis_: Do you have the libusb-dev package installed? It is in the Debian repositories. |
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| 20:13.09 | Euclidis_ | rod156: I just had 'freshly' installed kwheezy. I will update the system and install it. |
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| 20:14.10 | mrmr | first time i hear of 'kwheezy'... |
| 20:14.22 | rod156 | Euclidis_: Run all the updates available and see if your modem works then. If not, you could use the sakis3G script to configure the system. |
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| 20:15.07 | Euclidis_ | ok, rod156. I appreciate your tips. Thank you. |
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| 20:18.03 | grn | wow! I've just installed a wifi scanner in 5 minutes. I expected problems but it works really great! |
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| 20:19.38 | ageis | how to debug errors in dpkg-buildpackage ? |
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| 20:20.58 | Kiril | hello guys |
| 20:21.07 | Kiril | what do i need to get the latest nginx version |
| 20:21.23 | Kiril | like nginx repo for debian 7x |
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| 20:22.08 | jhutchins | ,v nginx |
| 20:22.09 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-backports: 1.4.4-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.4.4-3; sid: 1.4.4-4 |
| 20:22.26 | jhutchins | Kiril: Nothing special. |
| 20:22.37 | jhutchins | Kiril: backports if you're on squeeze. |
| 20:23.05 | Kiril | nginx version: nginx/1.2.1 |
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| 20:23.21 | hassen | duh... |
| 20:23.41 | hassen | where to access the OS sys logs?my debian wheezy has crashed oddly and the screen froze |
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| 20:24.00 | jhutchins | hassen: /var/log |
| 20:24.06 | jhutchins | hassen: dmesg | less |
| 20:24.21 | Jarmer | I finally got keefox working wohoo! had an issue with mono |
| 20:24.30 | Kiril | jholden_ |
| 20:24.33 | Kiril | uhh |
| 20:24.36 | Kiril | jhutchins |
| 20:24.37 | Kiril | root@vs1146:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:24.37 | Kiril | 7.3 |
| 20:25.06 | hassen | jhutchins: understood,thanks |
| 20:25.30 | Euclidis_ | rod156: http://thasulinux.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/sakis3g-magic-script/ - Can I proceed? |
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| 20:25.50 | Euclidis_ | rod156: What do you think about it? |
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| 20:27.40 | hassen | given that my debian OS suddenly froze minutes ago,this is the log file: |
| 20:27.41 | hassen | http://pastebin.com/kUByHKGa |
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| 20:28.29 | rod156 | Euclidis_: Sakis3g's website has been offline for a while, but the package can still be found at SourceForge. |
| 20:28.54 | rod156 | Euclidis_: You can find it at http://goo.gl/3dNkyj |
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| 20:29.14 | Euclidis_ | rod156: Ok. Does it depends of any extra package? |
| 20:29.53 | rod156 | Euclidis_: You have to have libusb-dev installed for it to work. |
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| 20:30.35 | Euclidis_ | rod156: Got it. |
| 20:30.37 | mtn | Euclidis_: kwheezy is not supported in this channel, but I imagine it has support in some other channel or website. |
| 20:30.37 | lroe | Can anyone see anything wrong with how I have configured incrond: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/27163d2c/ |
| 20:30.37 | lroe | It isn't executing the logged command |
| 20:30.42 | Euclidis_ | mtn: And? |
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| 20:30.54 | mtn | Euclidis_: and find support in the proper location, not here. |
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| 20:31.25 | Euclidis_ | mtn: Because? |
| 20:31.35 | Euclidis_ | loop... |
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| 20:31.43 | mtn | Euclidis_: channel rules and politeness ;) |
| 20:31.53 | Euclidis_ | Thank you, rod156. |
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| 20:32.45 | mtn | Euclidis_: and this channel does not know what changes they have made to debian when they released their distro |
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| 20:33.25 | rod156 | mtn: Well, all their changes are done post-install after loading a raw Debian Wheezy 7 install. |
| 20:33.30 | Euclidis_ | mtn: I understand. You understand too. |
| 20:34.17 | mtn | rod156: not my rules, but the rules we are all supposed to follow. if that distro was debian, it would be called debian and not kwheezy |
| 20:34.43 | rod156 | mtn: Ok. |
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| 20:39.47 | NiLon | I wonder what kind of solutions there is to have synced directory in that way that only server does have write access but clients can add their own files to that directory and it should work with windows as well :/ |
| 20:40.17 | NiLon | I wonder if rsync script is the way to go, I guess there is ports for windows too |
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| 20:50.32 | jhutchins | NiLon: Probably samba/cifs. |
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| 21:02.36 | Kiril | jhutchins, see this |
| 21:02.36 | Kiril | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nginx&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
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| 21:04.47 | bluesm | What is "libusbx-devel" package in debian ? |
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| 21:08.21 | nkuttler | ,v libusbx-devel |
| 21:08.22 | judd | No package named 'libusbx-devel' was found in i386. |
| 21:08.26 | nkuttler | bluesm: nothing |
| 21:08.47 | bluesm | nkuttler: I need download source? |
| 21:09.13 | nkuttler | bluesm: apparently, no idea, might have a different name, probably not though |
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| 21:09.58 | nkuttler | bluesm: looks like it's a libusb fork? are you sure you need that? |
| 21:10.17 | zwick | bluesm: Is "libusbx-devel" a package name from another distro and you want to know the Debian equivalent package? |
| 21:10.25 | zwick | bluesm: maybe libusb-dev |
| 21:10.26 | nkuttler | bluesm: debian's libusb is libusbx btw |
| 21:10.31 | nkuttler | right |
| 21:11.11 | bluesm | zwick: Yes, I need equivalent |
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| 21:11.30 | bluesm | zwick: nkuttler To install https://github.com/utzig/lm4tools.git |
| 21:11.32 | nkuttler | libusb-dev, like he said. Debian dev packages are usually foo-dev |
| 21:11.37 | zwick | bluesm: I would guess libusb-dev would be a good place to start |
| 21:11.43 | nkuttler | bluesm: no no no, Debian has libusbx |
| 21:11.55 | nkuttler | bluesm: it's just called libusb |
| 21:12.26 | zwick | nkuttler: You had me second guessing myself there for a second :) |
| 21:12.34 | nkuttler | ;) |
| 21:13.00 | bluesm | so... I should install libusb-dev ? |
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| 21:14.04 | zwick | bluesm: and/or libusb-1.0-0 |
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| 21:14.28 | zwick | libusb-dev is "userspace USB programming library development files" |
| 21:15.16 | zwick | bluesm: libusb-1.0-0 is the library itself |
| 21:15.59 | bluesm | zwick: But does it have "develop" package. |
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| 21:19.48 | nkuttler | bluesm: apt-cache search libusb dev |
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| 21:22.49 | petn-randall | NiLon: Only the server has write access? |
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| 21:23.22 | petn-randall | NiLon: Not sure what you mean, but owncloud has dropbox-like features. |
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| 21:23.40 | NiLon | petn-randall meaning that only the one that got access to server can modify the source |
| 21:24.08 | koell | owncloud has a really slow web interface |
| 21:24.33 | gregc2 | Hey all, I have removed tty2 - tty6 yet the user can still hit alt f2 and obviously not get a shell. how can i remove the alt f2 (i am building a kiosk) |
| 21:24.37 | NiLon | basically idea is that files are always up to date without client machines doing much to none effort |
| 21:25.19 | petn-randall | koell: Works pretty fast for me ... |
| 21:25.43 | petn-randall | koell: Maybe you shouldn't run a LAMP stack on your mobile phone .... ;) |
| 21:26.01 | ompaul | petn-randall: that is QOTD |
| 21:26.06 | petn-randall | NiLon: owncloud does that for you, and has clients for all major platforms. |
| 21:26.26 | koell | petn-randall: as i tested it last time (v5.0) i got a really slow response, when clicking around there. |
| 21:26.57 | NiLon | petn-randall does that have size limitations, we are talking about terabytes worth of data transferred each day |
| 21:27.21 | petn-randall | NiLon: TB? Interesting. Should work, though. |
| 21:27.22 | NiLon | also if it requires some third party server it doesn't work out, no bandwidth to support that |
| 21:27.33 | koell | NiLon: u may should look at the commercial version for owncloud.com |
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| 21:28.04 | petn-randall | NiLon: What do you mean with 3rd party server? You run your own instance. |
| 21:28.08 | NiLon | well I'll take a look |
| 21:28.19 | NiLon | with third party server I do mean like remote server |
| 21:28.40 | petn-randall | NiLon: Well, you need something hanging on the internet ... |
| 21:29.05 | petn-randall | NiLon: Other option would be btsync, which is closed-source though. |
| 21:29.20 | NiLon | I need this to work purely on lan, there's no way or sanity to transfer all the data to somewhere |
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| 21:30.10 | NiLon | I tried btsync but if you make repo something like over 100 GB it will really start to eat cpu |
| 21:30.13 | petn-randall | NiLon: Then just run owncloud on your LAN server. |
| 21:30.28 | petn-randall | NiLon: You won't get around that ... |
| 21:30.41 | petn-randall | NiLon: Why do you need to sync several TB a day, anyway? |
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| 21:31.14 | chs | im trying to setup/use forticlient. it shows that tunnel is running and im getting exttra dev ppp0 with an ip. i wish to run vnc on my computer in the office with priv ip.ppp0 has ip starting with 172. my workstation in office starts with 192 |
| 21:31.39 | NiLon | there are tons of videos that need to transfer into backup and to different people, huge files |
| 21:32.06 | NiLon | and some profiles that will get changed each day should be avaible for everyone etc |
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| 21:32.34 | petn-randall | NiLon: And you have to shovel several TB a day to different machines on the LAN? |
| 21:32.58 | NiLon | to proper groups yes |
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| 21:35.59 | NiLon | on-demand system would be more optimal but it's too slow to use |
| 21:36.12 | idueppe | Hi, need some help. I'm trying to deactived php register_globals and expose_php on wheezy /php5 system. But all my attemps didn't work? |
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| 21:36.38 | Jarmer | I'm wondering if anyone can help me learn how to change the keychain "default" password...? I've changed my user account password, but I can't figure out where the keychain password can be changed? |
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| 21:37.15 | petn-randall | Jarmer: which keychain? |
| 21:37.29 | petn-randall | idueppe: What did you try until now? |
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| 21:37.35 | idueppe | I changed /etc/php5/apache/php.ini and restarted apache2 but it doesn't work |
| 21:37.54 | idueppe | also I add a /etc/php5/conf.d/security.ini |
| 21:38.30 | petn-randall | idueppe: Editing /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini should be enough for mod_php (notice the 2 in the directory name). |
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| 21:38.38 | Jarmer | I think it's just the default keychain |
| 21:38.52 | idueppe | I'm not sure: is it "register_globals = off" or "= 0" |
| 21:39.04 | Jarmer | sorry I wasn't clear in what I wrote, I meant I have set a password in the "default" keychain, but I'd like to change it now |
| 21:39.17 | petn-randall | Jarmer: There are many keychains. apt keychain, your gpg keychain, the gnome one, KDE probably has one too ... |
| 21:39.23 | idueppe | Oh typo... I changed it in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini |
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| 21:40.09 | idueppe | I will try again... is "service apache2 restart" enough that lynis register the changed |
| 21:40.18 | bluesm | zwick: How you get this name ? |
| 21:40.24 | bluesm | zwick: Of that package ? |
| 21:40.34 | bluesm | Where I could find how is callled package here : http://packages.debian.org/jessie/libtool ? |
| 21:41.00 | petn-randall | idueppe: which release are you on? |
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| 21:41.16 | idueppe | of what? |
| 21:41.23 | idueppe | lynis? |
| 21:41.24 | petn-randall | idueppe: Debian. |
| 21:41.29 | Jarmer | how can I tell what I have? I don't even see a "keychain" of any kind in my menus, I'm using lxde |
| 21:41.42 | jarkko | i know this is debian channel, but did you hear the news about redhat and centos |
| 21:41.48 | idueppe | mmh how do I know ... I think 7.3 but how can I verify? |
| 21:42.06 | petn-randall | jarkko: We have #debian-offtopic for that :) |
| 21:42.25 | bluesm | ? |
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| 21:42.46 | gregc2 | Hey all, I have removed tty2 - tty6 yet the user can still hit alt f2 and obviously not get a shell. how can i remove the alt f2 (i am building a kiosk) |
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| 21:43.22 | petn-randall | Jarmer: I see. Then you mean the keychain for e.g. network manager, etc.? |
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| 21:44.00 | petn-randall | idueppe: Can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.debian.net? |
| 21:44.57 | bluesm | trying to install libtool i get Package libtool is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 21:45.09 | bluesm | What does it mean ? |
| 21:45.12 | idueppe | http://paste.debian.net/75110/ |
| 21:45.36 | petn-randall | bluesm: This should happen in debian stable. Which release are you running? |
| 21:46.02 | petn-randall | idueppe: So you're running wheezy. It comes with PHP 5.4, which has register_globals removed. |
| 21:46.11 | petn-randall | idueppe: See http://www.php.net/manual/en/security.globals.php |
| 21:47.02 | petn-randall | bluesm: This should *not* happen in debian stable. Which release are you running? |
| 21:47.15 | bluesm | petn-randall: lsb_release -a return that I'm on wheezy |
| 21:47.20 | idueppe | so I can ignore the warning of lynis... thx |
| 21:47.38 | bluesm | petn-randall: Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.35-2 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:47.57 | drasko | hi all. Debian installer demands me to provide manually iwlwifi firmware, then when I say "no" it coplains about Ethernet card not detected. |
| 21:48.01 | petn-randall | bluesm: Sounds like you're mixing repositories. Can you provide the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:48.03 | Jarmer | petn-randall: yes it only ever prompts me when I try to connect to my vpn, so yes, network manager |
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| 21:48.04 | idueppe | petn-randall: how did you find out the php version? |
| 21:48.19 | drasko | Is it ETH card it does not detect or the WiFi and could I proceed installation safely? |
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| 21:48.50 | petn-randall | idueppe: I've got a wheezy machine myself :). You can check it with 'dpkg -l php5*' |
| 21:48.51 | wsky | guys |
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| 21:48.58 | petn-randall | wsky: and gals? |
| 21:49.11 | pharvey | previously I've installed btrfs just through the debian installer, when using testing |
| 21:49.17 | petn-randall | idueppe: Nice choice of hoster, btw ;) |
| 21:49.17 | wsky | i just copied my ipv4 iptables rules to v6 file and i'm getting: |
| 21:49.25 | wsky | ip6tables-restore: line 40 failed |
| 21:49.30 | pharvey | now with wheezy I don't see btrfs as an option when partitioning |
| 21:49.31 | wsky | line 40 is COMMIT |
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| 21:49.51 | petn-randall | wsky: I wouldn't expect it to work either ... |
| 21:49.52 | wsky | i use default debian iptables rules from the debian site |
| 21:50.00 | pharvey | and I'm trying to remember how I'd load partman-btrfs module... |
| 21:50.16 | petn-randall | pharvey: btrfs isn't supported in wheezy. |
| 21:50.25 | wsky | i just changed the lo address to ::1/128 and it fails at COMIT |
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| 21:50.48 | idueppe | thx.. I hope so.. its my first root server... but I didn't saw any better offer |
| 21:50.58 | bluesm | petn-randall: https://gist.github.com/bluesm/8325156 |
| 21:51.01 | drasko | hi all. Debian installer demands me to provide manually iwlwifi firmware, then when I say "no" it coplains about Ethernet card not detected. |
| 21:51.03 | drasko | Is it ETH card it does not detect or the WiFi and could I proceed installation safely? |
| 21:51.26 | pharvey | petn-randall: ouch. I see partman-btrfs is on the ISO image. Should it just be a matter of udpkg -i partman-btrfs ? I tried this but it seems to have done very little |
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| 21:51.53 | bluesm | petn-randall: All commented out ? |
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| 21:52.54 | petn-randall | bluesm: Seems like you collected every apt repo you could find, then commented them all out, yes. |
| 21:53.29 | petn-randall | drasko: Can you provide the exact error message? |
| 21:53.31 | bluesm | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rXuoBFlO |
| 21:53.47 | bluesm | ucomment this : # deb http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main |
| 21:53.47 | bluesm | # deb-src http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main |
| 21:53.47 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.02 | bluesm | petn-randall: ^ |
| 21:54.18 | petn-randall | bluesm: Please use http://paste.debian.net, you last paste doesn't work for me. |
| 21:54.23 | petn-randall | *your |
| 21:54.37 | drasko | petn-randall, "No Ethernet card was detected. If you know the name..." and then the menu from companies to select. |
| 21:55.04 | drasko | petn-randall, but I do not know if this relates really to ETH or to WiFi, as I can see drivers like ath9k in this meny |
| 21:55.07 | drasko | *menu |
| 21:55.13 | drasko | which is wireless driver |
| 21:55.15 | bluesm | petn-randall: Uncomment this : http://paste.debian.net/75112/ ? |
| 21:55.20 | drasko | very confusing |
| 21:55.34 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell bluesm about sources.list |
| 21:55.47 | pharvey | I can see an infinite number of references on building udebs, describing udebs, how debian-installer itself is packaged and how it boots and... but nothing on how to load one at installation time |
| 21:56.24 | petn-randall | bluesm: It's very likely that you've brought your system to an unusable state. I don't recommend collecting apt repos in your sources.list like other people collect candies ... |
| 21:56.52 | petn-randall | pharvey: You can select it in the menu. |
| 21:57.24 | petn-randall | pharvey: IIRC it's something like "load further installer modules". |
| 21:57.46 | pharvey | I don't have that. Must be because I'm using a LiveCD. |
| 21:57.51 | drasko | it is very strange that installer does not detect ethernet card, right? |
| 21:57.51 | pharvey | thanks pet |
| 21:57.53 | pharvey | thanks petn-randall |
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| 21:58.14 | drasko | And my PC is Toshiba Satellite P50, so somthing rather popular |
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| 21:58.39 | drasko | can I presume that installer is actually complaining about WiFi driver and continu the installation? |
| 21:58.43 | petn-randall | pharvey: But I wouldn't use the btrfs-tools or the kernel in wheezy for btrfs, it's at the state of two years ago. |
| 21:58.47 | drasko | I have ethernet cable pluged in |
| 21:59.22 | petn-randall | drasko: I can't tell since I don't have the installer in front of me. |
| 21:59.35 | petn-randall | drasko: And you only provided half of the error message. |
| 21:59.43 | pharvey | petn-randall: thanks |
| 22:00.19 | petn-randall | drasko: But you can select detecting network connectivity later in the main menu again if it doesn't work for you. |
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| 22:02.44 | pharvey | back to testing it is :D |
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| 22:04.59 | mallxs | hi planning to buy a Asus Maximus VI Hero, it has a "gamefirst ii" Ethernet onboard; will this work with debian ? |
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| 22:07.36 | rod156 | mallxs: Yes, GameFirst II is just a brand name for Intel's Gigabit Ethernet, which is supported by Debian. |
| 22:07.51 | mallxs | rod156: thx |
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| 22:18.44 | pharvey | aaand even on testing, mkfs.btrfs makes d-i barf because it refuses to create on a partition where it detects an existing filesystem |
| 22:19.00 | pharvey | solved with a bit of dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdaN |
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| 22:21.22 | kukac | Hi, just a try. Is there somebody who can help me about javascript slowness in iceweasel compared to its counterpart on windows under virtualbox? |
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| 22:23.10 | kukac | ... or compared to firefox on an underpowered android machine |
| 22:25.54 | kukac | Iceweasel on my desktop wheezy machine is about 500 - 1000 times slower with javascript as Chromium or Firefox on windows under virtualbox and 100-200 times slower than firefox on an android device. What can be the problem? Is it only mine or a general issue? |
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| 22:28.29 | themill | kukac: are you actually comparing the same versions of the browser here? |
| 22:29.46 | kukac | themill: yes, iceweasel is version 26 on wheezy and the same on windows under virtualbox. Would you like to try on your machine? |
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| 22:30.02 | storge_ | hi |
| 22:30.11 | rod156 | kikac, Chromium uses a different Javascript engine than Iceweasel. |
| 22:30.12 | kukac | themill: in the worst case, the script runs for 300000 ms |
| 22:30.22 | kukac | rod156: I know |
| 22:30.47 | storge_ | question: in debian jessie, i've put systemd-sysv on hold with: 'echo systemd-sysv hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections' and have 'apt-get remove sysvinit' but at any update system tries to reinstall sysvinit. i know debian as yet sees sysvinit as 'essential' but i want to know why my hold isn't working. (trying to stay with systemd and not have sysvinit always offered) |
| 22:30.48 | kukac | rod156: what I don't understand why on debian it is slower than on android for example |
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| 22:31.53 | kukac | themill: but the normal running time is about 300 ms |
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| 22:37.47 | alphazulu | question: i have ~/bin directory and relevant lines to add it to $PATH uncommented in ~/.profile but apparently ~/.profile is not getting sourced at login. |
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| 22:39.45 | alphazulu | also do not have ~/.bash_profile nor ~/.bash_login |
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| 22:43.02 | alphazulu | maybe something with konsole not using login shell? |
| 22:44.04 | alphazulu | guess that was it. set command to /bin/bash --login -i |
| 22:44.13 | themill | terminal emulators aren't logging in so they don't run a login shell. You can configure konsole to use "bash -ls" if you want |
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| 22:48.24 | petn-randall | storge_: You've answered your question yourself. By removing it you make your installation inconsistent (missing dependencies), and apt tries to fix that. |
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| 22:49.17 | themill | storge_: my recollection is that you don't need to remove sysvinit to use systemd |
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| 22:49.26 | storge_ | petn-randall: for over a month, i was never prompted in daily updated to reinstall sysvinit. now its every time. so it seems something has changed, perhaps the hold is incorrectly done? |
| 22:49.36 | petn-randall | kukac: You're comparing apples with oranges. Android's Firefox has only the name in common with it's desktop counterpart. |
| 22:49.48 | storge_ | themill: maybe not, as i am passing systemd along to grub boot default command |
| 22:50.27 | petn-randall | storge_: if you've got the init=/lib/systemd/systemd kernelparameter, you don't need to remove it. |
| 22:50.37 | storge_ | petn-randall: themill thanks |
| 22:51.08 | petn-randall | storge_: You're welcome :) |
| 22:51.12 | pero | kukac: you can try installing the firefox binary and compare that to iceweasel... |
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| 22:52.13 | storge_ | on that note... i like having boot messages (not 'quiet') but it's uglified in that i see huge font for half the boot and then a switch to a smaller clean font. this might not be a debian question, perhaps, but does anyone know how that can be improved (how i can see a better font throughout bootup?) this is a laptop so i boot often. |
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| 22:52.57 | storge_ | if not a debian question that's ok i'll continue searching |
| 22:53.19 | petn-randall | storge_: I recommend you check out #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, where jessie and newer are supported. I've got a laptop, which is why I hardly ever boot ;) |
| 22:53.41 | storge_ | petn-randall: thanks! |
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| 23:15.43 | kukac | pero: same result or worst. I don't know what the problem would be.... |
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| 23:17.35 | ixio2 | hey guys where does sendmail log on debian squeezy? /var/log/mail ? |
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