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| 00:01.43 | DANtheBEASTman | Xmode: not that I'm an expert by any means, but I only know of two packages that handle network connections, wicd and nm. if you don't like either and want a cli option there's always iwconfig and the like |
| 00:02.29 | penguin42 | http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/binnmuing-architectures-breaks-multi-arch-same-help-207039942.html is apparently to my libffi5 problem |
| 00:02.36 | penguin42 | or at least the explanation - hmm |
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| 00:04.23 | superboot | Do I need console-kit-daemon on a no-X11, commandline only system? |
| 00:04.37 | superboot | For that matter, what does it do? |
| 00:04.42 | Xmode | thanks for the suggestions. I'll take a look at them. |
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| 00:08.01 | RagingMind | Xmode, maybe something in here? http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 01:09.11 | firztspawn | how can I manually change the default application if it is nt showing in the "Default Applications" menu? |
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| 01:10.22 | RagingMind | firztspawn, that desktop/filemanager? |
| 01:10.28 | RagingMind | *what |
| 01:10.40 | firztspawn | gnome 2.1 |
| 01:10.58 | tensorpudding | 2.1...? |
| 01:11.10 | firztspawn | not the latest one |
| 01:11.14 | firztspawn | the classic |
| 01:11.34 | tensorpudding | That on squeeze? |
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| 01:12.08 | firztspawn | yes |
| 01:12.14 | firztspawn | sorry.. 3.2.1 |
| 01:12.23 | firztspawn | err 3.4.2 |
| 01:12.26 | firztspawn | I mean |
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| 01:13.45 | RagingMind | firztspawn, right click > Properties > Open With... at the bottom you'll see the button to set default |
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| 01:15.06 | firztspawn | oh.. that easy |
| 01:15.10 | firztspawn | ty |
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| 02:25.14 | twinkie_addict | hi |
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| 02:34.05 | xTz | hey guys |
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| 02:34.17 | xTz | any1 that have been on a comptia linux+ exam? |
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| 02:43.15 | twinkie_addict | i noticed in jessies synaptic they took out the notify me of new ubuntu updates |
| 02:43.24 | daveee123 | i am installing something through the command line, but after 10 mins the computer goes to sleep. why is this? does the terminal running not count as computer activity? or is there a way for it to go to sleep(at minimum turn off the display), but continue to run terminal in the background? |
| 02:44.14 | twinkie_addict | did they allso fix that in wheezy |
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| 02:51.15 | altker128 | Hey all. I'm moving from one HDD to another, and all the data has been copied. What's the easiest way to get grub onto the new drive? I'm booted via sysreccd |
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| 03:08.51 | daveee123 | #grub might be able to help with that |
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| 03:21.32 | imoris | How can I bridge internet connection from a Debian machine to another computer? I tried the wiki and did the commands, and not only did the bridge not work, but my internet connection dropped. The wiki says something about allowing my machine to act as a port, but I am not sure how. |
| 03:21.56 | imoris | rather, act as a port switch * |
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| 03:26.23 | altker128 | imoris: You need to use bridge-utils |
| 03:26.29 | altker128 | imoris: brctl add br0 |
| 03:26.39 | altker128 | imoris: brctl addif <ethernet_interface_name> |
| 03:26.47 | altker128 | brctl addif <other_ethernet_interface_name> |
| 03:27.13 | altker128 | imoris: You'd be better of using a dedicated router or Ethernet switch |
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| 03:28.23 | imoris | I was following http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
| 03:28.37 | imoris | btw, I actually run Gentoo and my friend is running Debian and bridging to me, but this is all taking place on his computer |
| 03:28.55 | altker128 | imoris: Why even do this? Are you trying to connect two machines together? |
| 03:28.58 | altker128 | just assign them IPs |
| 03:29.22 | imoris | I know nothing about networking. :x I usually connect directly to a modem with dhcpcd |
| 03:29.31 | imoris | I'll try a dedicated router |
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| 03:30.18 | peterrooney | sometimes, people run out of ports on their routers |
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| 03:30.48 | altker128 | imoris: You have to enable dhcp for the br0 |
| 03:30.58 | altker128 | That will pull an IP |
| 03:31.12 | altker128 | peterrooney: Sure...longer term its still better to use a switch |
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| 03:32.14 | imoris | altker128: Any article on doing that? Or, you simply mean kill existing dhclient/dhcpcd process and relaunch connecting to eth0 if I am using br0 eth0 and eth1? |
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| 03:34.19 | altker128 | imoris: No article, but Linux bridging is a bit weird, you can assign an IP to the "bridge" which really gets mapped to the first ethernet device added. So if you turn on DHCP for the bridge, I bet it will go out eth0 |
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| 03:52.21 | Seegee | Hey there guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could make this IPTables rule filter per IP: -A syn-flood -m limit --limit 10/sec --limit-burst 30 -j RETURN |
| 03:54.59 | reavengr1y | f0 0f c7 c8 |
| 03:55.26 | Rusty1 | Seegee: there is a #Netfilter channel if nobody here can help |
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| 04:00.37 | caf | Seegee: you need to use hashlimit instead of limit |
| 04:00.55 | caf | there are some hashlimit examples in the iptables man page |
| 04:00.55 | Seegee | i am not familiar with hashlimit |
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| 04:02.33 | Seegee | caf, would I just change "limmit" in my rule to hashlimit? |
| 04:03.14 | caf | i believe "-m hashlimit --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-upto 10/sec --hashlimit-burst 30" is what you're looking for |
| 04:03.44 | caf | --hashlimit-mode srcip means it applies on a per-source-ip basis |
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| 05:40.54 | jhutchins | caf: Why hashlimit instead of limit? |
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| 05:42.12 | NotJimCarrey | in pavucontrol, every time i try to make changes to the configuration, it kills pulseaudio |
| 05:43.21 | jhutchins | caf: According to the manpage, hashlimit applies to destination IP or IP/Port pair, not source. |
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| 05:45.25 | jhutchins | I guess I missed that conversation. It looks like it's not too well documented and many people have misunderstood. |
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| 05:51.22 | NotJimCarrey | ok, i ran apt-get purge & install in pulseaudio, and still have the same problem |
| 05:51.24 | NotJimCarrey | wth |
| 05:52.22 | peterrooney | NotJimCarrey: have you tried removing your personal PA configs? |
| 05:52.48 | NotJimCarrey | there isn't a .pulse anything in ~ |
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| 05:54.51 | NotJimCarrey | PulseAudio Manager is showing Connection Refused |
| 05:54.55 | peterrooney | NotJimCarrey: find ~ -name *pulse* ? |
| 05:55.24 | peterrooney | dislikes the mess that is audio on linux almost as much as n-m |
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| 05:55.36 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
| 05:55.42 | NotJimCarrey | know the feeling |
| 05:56.36 | NotJimCarrey | especially the random "I don't feel like working any more" |
| 05:57.59 | NotJimCarrey | other than some stuff in git & Steam, no pulse files in ~ |
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| 05:58.47 | daveee123 | when i have the gnome 3 desktop running, i can log out and log back in to KDE by changing the desktop environment in a dropdown menu in the login screen. if I install openbox. will openbox be added to the dropdown screen? |
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| 05:59.05 | daveee123 | i would install using these instructions http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox |
| 05:59.33 | jelly-home | NotJimCarrey: ls -ld $HOME/.pulse says there's no such file? |
| 05:59.48 | NotJimCarrey | nada |
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| 06:00.20 | jelly-home | NotJimCarrey: can your user write files in their home? ls -ld $HOME |
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| 06:00.48 | NotJimCarrey | yup |
| 06:01.01 | jelly-home | NotJimCarrey: show the output please. |
| 06:01.08 | NotJimCarrey | drwxr-xr-x 150 notjimcarrey notjimcarrey 4096 Jul 7 10:15 /home/notjimcarrey |
| 06:01.42 | jelly-home | good. what happens if you run "pulseaudio" manually? |
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| 06:02.21 | NotJimCarrey | if I run "pulseaudio -D" I get a small "pop" in my headphones, and it shows up in pavucontrol |
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| 06:02.42 | NotJimCarrey | but, as soon as I try to disable a device in configuration, it kills pulseaudio |
| 06:02.50 | jelly-home | and without -D ? |
| 06:03.10 | NotJimCarrey | runs |
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| 06:03.28 | jelly-home | now do the same thing that crashes it |
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| 06:04.00 | NotJimCarrey | great, now pavucontrol just says "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please Wait..." |
| 06:04.24 | daveee123 | when i have the gnome 3 desktop running, i can log out and log back in to KDE by changing the desktop environment in a dropdown menu in the login screen. if I install openbox. will openbox be added to the dropdown screen? |
| 06:04.26 | daveee123 | i would install using these instructions http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox |
| 06:04.38 | NotJimCarrey | paman shows "Failure: Connection refused" |
| 06:05.04 | jelly-home | NotJimCarrey: you didn't suspend the process perhaps? |
| 06:05.43 | NotJimCarrey | if I kill the manually ran one, there is no pulseaudio running |
| 06:05.54 | jelly-home | the point is to let it run in foreground and see if it spits out anything when it dies |
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| 06:06.52 | NotJimCarrey | i can't even connect to the one i'm running as user |
| 06:07.03 | NotJimCarrey | paman says connection refused |
| 06:07.26 | NotJimCarrey | same if ran by root |
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| 06:07.44 | jelly-home | hm |
| 06:10.21 | daveee123 | anybody? |
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| 06:16.41 | NotJimCarrey | jelly-home: if I run /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start, I get: |
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| 06:16.48 | NotJimCarrey | N: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at {790a2e4e82ab10dab7b055bb50f0d510}unix:/tmp/pulse-2L9K88eMlGn7/native tcp:bastian.notjimcarrey.com:4713 tcp6:bastian.notjimcarrey.com:4713, refusing to start/autospawn. |
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| 06:34.50 | NotJimCarrey | damn, forgot who was helping me |
| 06:35.01 | NotJimCarrey | anyway, somehow, it works again |
| 06:35.09 | jelly-home | as if by magic :-| |
| 06:35.16 | NotJimCarrey | yup |
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| 06:35.31 | NotJimCarrey | purge/install pulseaudio |
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| 06:35.51 | NotJimCarrey | rm -rf .config/pulse & pavucontrol |
| 06:35.52 | NotJimCarrey | reboot |
| 06:35.55 | NotJimCarrey | poof |
| 06:36.19 | NotJimCarrey | PulseAudio..when it works, it works great |
| 06:36.39 | NotJimCarrey | when it doesn't, no one knows why, and it randomly fixes itself |
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| 06:36.50 | NotJimCarrey | but not until the last hair is pulled from your scalp |
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| 06:49.41 | daveee123 | when i have the gnome 3 desktop running, i can log out and log back in to KDE by changing the desktop environment in a dropdown menu in the login screen. if I install openbox. will openbox be added to the dropdown screen? |
| 06:49.43 | daveee123 | i would install using these instructions http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox |
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| 06:56.46 | lolcakes | daveee123, yes it will be added to the login manager |
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| 08:20.32 | monod | good guys |
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| 08:21.11 | monod | Why debian has no sound through my USB audio card, until I disconnect and reconnect it? Then, everything works fine, but I always have to do that manually =_= |
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| 09:07.45 | Agiofws | hello using debian with gnome 3 how do i add an app to the favorites bar ? |
| 09:08.49 | xgley | Agiofws: right click on app in menu. |
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| 09:09.47 | Agiofws | app menu ? |
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| 09:10.35 | xgley | Agiofws: drag and drop also works. |
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| 09:11.10 | Agiofws | thank you :) |
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| 09:20.39 | eddy | hello? what is proper way to disable the system bell? I'm using wheezy |
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| 09:24.30 | anonnumberanon | do you have to register on irc for each network? if so, can you use the same credentials for every network? |
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| 09:26.34 | eddy | anonnumberanon, talking... to me? |
| 09:26.46 | anonnumberanon | to anyone... |
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| 09:43.02 | imdea | Isn't supposed that if you upgrade from one debian version to another, all packages from the old version get upgraded to their newest version? |
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| 09:46.08 | anonnumberanon | i think there is a difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade, look that up |
| 09:46.14 | anonnumberanon | imdea |
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| 09:48.08 | imdea | anonnumberanon, uhm? |
| 09:48.11 | imdea | anonnumberanon, what do you mean? |
| 09:48.52 | anonnumberanon | I'm not too sure about this man I never needed it before. |
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| 09:49.33 | anonnumberanon | You should backup your system now so if you break packages or something, you can always go back to the last system. |
| 09:49.55 | imdea | anonnumberanon, that's not the question. |
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| 10:05.06 | HelenaKitty1 | How do I stop my /etc/resolv.conf file from being updated? I need it to be kept set to different DNS servers. :/ |
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| 10:13.59 | digdilem | HelenaKitty1, ideally stop whatever keeps changing it. :/ |
| 10:14.23 | digdilem | might be network manager or some other thing - alternatively, whatever is changing it, see if you can specify the ns's there |
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| 10:15.08 | digdilem | if the software has permission to change network interfaces, it probably already has root perms so not much you can change on the perm option and still keep it usable (afaik, not a perms wizard) |
| 10:15.26 | digdilem | alternative, set a cronjob to over-write that file every minute to what you want |
| 10:15.30 | digdilem | (bodge) |
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| 10:17.40 | mishke_ | anybody?) |
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| 10:27.53 | HelenaKitty1 | digdilem: I know but I want to know what keeps changing it! I don't use a network manager, I just use good old fashioned /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:28.58 | HelenaKitty1 | I'd rather find ut if I can stop such software modifying the file before I go with a cronjob. |
| 10:29.03 | nkuttler | HelenaKitty1: using dhcp? |
| 10:29.10 | HelenaKitty1 | nkuttler: Yes. |
| 10:29.14 | digdilem | a quick google suggests it is usually NetworkManager, HelenaKitty1 - but could be any networky thing, lincluding wifi |
| 10:29.20 | digdilem | ah |
| 10:29.33 | HelenaKitty1 | digdilem: I don't have NetworkManager. |
| 10:29.39 | digdilem | nkuttler might be onto it |
| 10:29.42 | nkuttler | hrm, there's something to keep your dns settings with dhcp.. but i can't remember |
| 10:29.52 | HelenaKitty1 | :/ |
| 10:29.57 | digdilem | dhcp servers can supply ns info and can overwrite resolv.conf |
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| 10:30.02 | HelenaKitty1 | I checked the coonf on the dhclient |
| 10:30.11 | HelenaKitty1 | *conf |
| 10:30.14 | digdilem | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.22 | digdilem | from a page, might be worth a try? |
| 10:30.33 | HelenaKitty1 | digdilem: What does that do? |
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| 10:30.43 | digdilem | write protects |
| 10:30.49 | HelenaKitty1 | okies :3 |
| 10:30.55 | nkuttler | HelenaKitty1: try http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers |
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| 10:31.52 | _joules | hi, why is this missing from the qt packages (qt-creator-doc I assume)? http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/13264 |
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| 10:32.07 | _joules | been searching for it for ages, no where to be found. |
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| 10:32.34 | nkuttler | _joules: apt-cache search qt creator doc |
| 10:32.41 | _joules | nkuttler: not in there. |
| 10:32.50 | nkuttler | ,v qtcreator-doc |
| 10:32.52 | judd | Package: qtcreator-doc on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3.1-3; wheezy: 2.5.0-2; jessie: 2.7.0-1; sid: 2.7.0-1 |
| 10:33.29 | _joules | dpkg-query -L qtcreator-doc |
| 10:34.17 | nkuttler | _joules: and? |
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| 10:36.13 | _joules | and what? |
| 10:36.57 | _joules | just curious as to why its omitted from any packages. |
| 10:37.24 | _joules | its apart of this qt4-doc-html: /usr/share/qt4/doc/html/gettingstartedqt.html |
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| 10:38.20 | _joules | i could submit a bug report or I could just do my own deb like I have for half a dozen other things. |
| 10:38.24 | HelenaKitty1 | nkuttler: With resolvconf installed I can use the dns-nameservers option in /etc/network/interfaces, right? |
| 10:38.33 | _joules | Is this distro seriously run by fucking tards? |
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| 10:39.07 | gumble | does anyone know a nice cloud service to back up the important files? |
| 10:39.24 | HelenaKitty1 | Wow _joules is full of testosterone |
| 10:39.31 | HelenaKitty1 | o.o |
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| 10:46.57 | nkuttler | HelenaKitty1: no idea, never had to do that |
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| 10:47.01 | nkuttler | but if the wiki says so.. |
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| 10:47.35 | nkuttler | !find gettingstartedqt.html |
| 10:48.00 | nkuttler | ah, already left anyway. |
| 10:48.36 | HelenaKitty1 | :3 |
| 10:49.12 | HelenaKitty1 | cat: /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README: No such file or directory |
| 10:49.20 | HelenaKitty1 | Where can I get this?! o.o |
| 10:49.42 | HelenaKitty1 | oh a man page |
| 10:49.44 | HelenaKitty1 | nvm |
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| 10:50.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gettingstartedqt.html' (1): (/usr/share/qt4/doc/html/gettingstartedqt.html) in doc/qt4-doc-html. |
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| 10:53.45 | doebi | i can't boot my wheezy anymore. it says: "thinkpad_ec: initial ec test failed" |
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| 10:56.11 | HelenaKitty1 | nkuttler: :D |
| 10:56.28 | HelenaKitty1 | It worked out the box tho it said programs like dhclient would have a problem with it. :3 |
| 10:56.32 | HelenaKitty1 | thnx! |
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| 11:05.00 | wolfez | Hello |
| 11:05.12 | wolfez | How can i work with localhost on debian? |
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| 11:05.42 | wolfez | ? |
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| 11:06.13 | Nik05 | hi wolfez |
| 11:06.22 | Nik05 | what do you mean? |
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| 11:06.57 | wolfez | Nik05: On ubuntu you cn go to localhost/test.php and you get the output f test.php |
| 11:07.27 | wolfez | Nik05: When i do this on debian he says localhost doesnt exist or somthing? |
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| 11:08.07 | Nik05 | localhost should be in /etc/hosts |
| 11:08.39 | wolfez | Nik05: 1127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 11:08.44 | Nik05 | yes |
| 11:08.45 | wolfez | Nik05: 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 11:08.48 | wolfez | It is |
| 11:08.55 | wolfez | But they doesnt work |
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| 11:09.22 | Nik05 | ping localhost |
| 11:09.26 | Nik05 | does it work? :P |
| 11:09.32 | Nik05 | ctrl c to stop |
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| 11:10.15 | wolfez | Nik05: PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 11:10.57 | Nik05 | so what isnt working? |
| 11:11.17 | Nik05 | did you install apache? |
| 11:11.28 | wolfez | Nik05: If i go in iceweasel to localhost it doesnt work |
| 11:11.38 | wolfez | Nik05: How can i chek? |
| 11:12.47 | Nik05 | wolfez do you use apt-get, aptitude or something else? |
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| 11:13.44 | wolfez | Nik05: apt |
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| 11:17.42 | iceroot | http://www.debian.org/security/dsa does this include all debian packages from the official repos (non-free, backports and so on) or only the main-repo? |
| 11:17.59 | Nik05 | wolfez so did you install apache? |
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| 11:19.10 | wolfez | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.15 | wolfez | apache2 |
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| 11:19.53 | abrotman | iceroot: anything there would be a Debian-released security update |
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| 11:20.46 | iceroot | abrotman: so when there is a sec-update for e.g. flashplugin-nonfree or something else from non-free it will be shown there |
| 11:22.24 | abrotman | iceroot: Would be yes, but Adobe flash another method of updating ... update-flashplugin-nonfree --install |
| 11:23.02 | iceroot | abrotman: so that means by default i will not get sec-updates for flash when only using apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 11:23.10 | Nik05 | wolfez and what do you get when going to localhost? |
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| 11:23.28 | abrotman | iceroot: if Debian releases one, yes .. but you have the other method as well |
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| 11:24.13 | iceroot | abrotman: thank you for that useful info, didnt know that |
| 11:24.48 | abrotman | iceroot: security updates are not always the same as a stability update that Adobe might relase, or a functionality upgrade, etc |
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| 11:27.36 | wolfez | Nik05: |
| 11:28.08 | wolfez | Nik05: The server at localhost is taking too long to respond. |
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| 11:31.59 | boodie | Hi: I have a problem with CUPS ... up until yesterday it worked fine, now I can't access it. In the meanwhile the HP opensource update notice came out, so I updated the hplip package. The printer prints & scans, but if I tried to access cups, it just times out and doesn't display the page ... |
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| 11:34.03 | boodie | Unfortunately, as debian was updated to 7, the printer didn't work at all, with the packages downloaded from the official repositories. It did with the hplip packages downloaded from hpolipopensource.com. I had an awful time making the scanner work, but then I managed it too. |
| 11:34.29 | Dion | lolo |
| 11:34.31 | boodie | This morning, CUPS was not accessible, and still isn't |
| 11:34.32 | Dion | lol * |
| 11:34.38 | Dion | boodie, Bad config? |
| 11:34.57 | boodie | Well, it worked yesterday, what can I say? |
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| 11:36.30 | wolfez | Nik05: ?? |
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| 11:36.44 | boodie | I usually write in firefox http://192.168.0.3:631 or http://192.168.0.2:631 (according to where the linux box has been put by the router) and the cups page pops up |
| 11:37.01 | boodie | But now it just times out |
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| 11:38.22 | abrotman | is it actually running? |
| 11:38.26 | abrotman | verified with netstat ? |
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| 11:41.13 | boodie | Apologies, with http://localhost:631/ it works , I still have a minor problem though: since I use this printer also with a couple of windows laptops, I would like to know the URL of cups |
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| 11:41.32 | boodie | Windows printer management is awful |
| 11:43.01 | boodie | along with other things, but more or less every time I connect I try the addresses http://192.168.0.3:631 or http://192.168.0.2:631 so I then send the prints to the right location. |
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| 11:43.16 | Nik05 | yes wolfez |
| 11:45.27 | boodie | So, since "localhost" masks http://192.168.0.2 or 3 ... what's the best way to discover what is actually localhost? |
| 11:45.54 | boodie | Sorry, I'm a goat, technically ... |
| 11:46.31 | doebi | boodie: 127.0.0.1 ? |
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| 11:50.09 | wolfez | Nik05: What to do?? |
| 11:51.28 | Kromitvs | Hy there. Is there any Debian/Linux policy regarding parameters for commands (e.g. -h should show help)? |
| 11:51.37 | Kromitvs | (where can I find it?) |
| 11:51.56 | wolfez | Kromitvs: use man pages. |
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| 11:52.46 | Kromitvs | I'm a wanna be developper... This is for new parameters, not existing ones. :) |
| 11:53.10 | Nik05 | sorry wolfez i dont know... |
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| 11:55.41 | tomahill | JESUS |
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| 11:55.56 | boodie | Ok forget about everything ... it's hooked to 192.168.0.4 ... strange (at least it works regularly), now I have to investigate, never had 3 devices connected to the router! |
| 11:55.56 | iron | JESUS IS LORD! |
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| 11:55.57 | abrotman | looks |
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| 11:57.22 | wolfez | ?? |
| 11:57.34 | bazhang | some kind of spambots |
| 11:57.39 | abrotman | we can see, thanks |
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| 11:57.44 | wolfez | bazhang: Oke |
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| 11:58.08 | wolfez | gry: ? |
| 11:58.21 | abrotman | ignore the bots .. |
| 11:58.26 | wolfez | abrotman: Ok |
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| 12:00.04 | abrotman | ... |
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| 12:00.41 | wolfez | not again please// |
| 12:00.56 | abrotman | wolfez: ignore them .. it's not that hard |
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| 12:01.11 | abrotman | wolfez: staff are working on it .. just ask your question |
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| 12:04.53 | ursu | hello |
| 12:05.04 | ursu | guys, which package installs the OGRE renderer? |
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| 12:05.38 | ursu | I'm already tired of searches, and it seems like debian doesn't include it... |
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| 12:06.49 | abrotman | ogre? or ORCA? |
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| 12:07.19 | abrotman | judd: versions ogre-1.8-tools |
| 12:07.20 | judd | Package: ogre-1.8-tools on i386 -- jessie: 1.8.0+dfsg1-3; sid: 1.8.0+dfsg1-3; wheezy: 1.8.0+dfsg1-3 |
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| 12:08.51 | ursu | abrotman, it's Ogre |
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| 12:08.58 | ursu | yes, I have that one installed |
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| 12:09.32 | abrotman | ursu: i'm not sure what you're asking for then? |
| 12:09.37 | abrotman | ursu: aptitude search ogre |
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| 12:11.09 | ursu | abrotman, I have that package, but RenderSystem_GL is not there |
| 12:11.21 | ursu | that's the ogre renderer, and I can't find it.... |
| 12:11.27 | abrotman | ursu: did you install libogre? |
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| 12:17.21 | no_gravity | Hello! Wanna try a vim plugin for the first time: Nerdtree. How do I go about that? Maybe it already is part of Debian? |
| 12:17.39 | ursu | no_gravity, the best option is to use Vundle |
| 12:17.42 | ursu | ;) |
| 12:17.51 | ursu | you can try as many plugins for vim as you like |
| 12:18.08 | ursu | and you will be able to update them, install and search |
| 12:18.26 | no_gravity | ursu: whats Vundle? |
| 12:19.06 | tremon | hi all, what's the preferred way to configure per-user keymaps? I'm not looking to change the keyboard layout, but the extended functions such as compose key location and function |
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| 12:20.06 | tremon | and if possible, in a DE-agnostic way. It's not necessary to change the console keymap too |
| 12:20.23 | ursu | no_gravity, a plugin manger for Vim. Vundle is to vim what apt-get is to debian |
| 12:23.01 | flukiluke | tremon: To set the compose key, ~/.Xmodmap is the file you're looking for. Of course, that's only under X. |
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| 12:23.39 | tremon | thanks, I'll look into it |
| 12:23.56 | flukiluke | You may want to look here: http://alec.mooo.com/xcompose.html |
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| 12:25.17 | tremon | thanks again :) |
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| 12:43.58 | AndreeeCZ | hi. I would like to calibrate alsa line in gain by a finer grain than is possible with alsamixer. How can I do this? |
| 12:45.43 | abrotman | isn't that a scale of 0 to 100 ? |
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| 12:49.17 | AndreeeCZ | abrotman, may be, but still too unprecise |
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| 12:54.09 | valexandru | hi |
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| 12:54.34 | valexandru | how can i update from debian 7.0 to debian 7.1? |
| 12:55.10 | abrotman | !tell valexandru about point release |
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| 13:08.08 | jelly-home | valexandru: if you're doing regular security upgrades, you're already there |
| 13:08.51 | valexandru | jelly-home, yea |
| 13:09.37 | abrotman | or mostly there, depends on the full release notes |
| 13:09.46 | abrotman | (and sources.list) |
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| 13:21.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps can somebody help me with ldap on debian? |
| 13:21.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am not sure if my config is correct |
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| 13:22.15 | abrotman | just ask your real question and see if anyone can help |
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| 13:22.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/hLLT |
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| 13:23.09 | abrotman | doesn't see a question |
| 13:23.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | not sure what to ask abrotman |
| 13:23.44 | abrotman | what doesn't work? |
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| 13:43.34 | LinuxGuy2020 | Ok I dont know if this is on topic or not so here goes. I'm about to burn the Bluray i386 images to disc. Im using Nero Linux 4. It lists the burn speeds after I select the ISO. My BD-R discs are clearly labeled 4X. Nero lists 2X,4X,6X,8X. I had trouble with the AMD64 bluray images not installing completely. I burned those at 8X. The checksum for the disk after burning was fine though. Is there still a possibility of a bad burn even if t |
| 13:44.48 | dvs | LinuxGuy2020: You can do an image check before you do the actual install. |
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| 13:45.24 | Joost | Does anyone have any experience with Synergy? Where do I configure the password etc on the client? |
| 13:45.25 | abrotman | and you were truncated |
| 13:45.31 | abrotman | and do you really need a BD for install? |
| 13:45.38 | Joost | (assuming the client is running debian) |
| 13:45.45 | LinuxGuy2020 | dvs: Do you think the results of that may differ from running a md5sum in the terminal? |
| 13:45.59 | LinuxGuy2020 | BD is for offline machine. |
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| 13:46.31 | dvs | LinuxGuy2020: You ran the md5sum on the disk image (not the iso file) |
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| 13:48.02 | dvs | download the BD image to put on a USB drive |
| 13:48.14 | LinuxGuy2020 | dvs: Well yeah I always check the iso after download. It was good. Im pretty sure I md5sumed the disc in the drive also. Im just trying to figure out if the images are bad and its the debian developers fault or my burns are bad or whats going on. |
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| 13:49.06 | LinuxGuy2020 | Maybe I should just boot the disc and have it check itself. |
| 13:49.16 | dvs | LinuxGuy2020: That's what I'd do. |
| 13:49.25 | LinuxGuy2020 | Ok Ill be back. |
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| 13:50.06 | michal_ | Hi |
| 13:50.19 | michal_ | Can I install nvidia drivers when I have optimus? |
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| 13:53.50 | LinuxGuy2020 | Hmm I didnt see an option on the boot menu to check the disc. Do debian discs have that feature? |
| 13:54.15 | dvs | Last time I checked they did. Maybe it's part of the expert install. |
| 13:54.52 | LinuxGuy2020 | Ok Ill check that |
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| 14:16.14 | akurczyk | hi, i would like to install debion on my usb flash drive. i found live images on debian official web site, but this images are in iso format. i know i can "burn" it on usb flash an it will boot, but what's with the presistant storage? it is only supproted on img images, right? what will be better - to instal debian on my usb flash normally like on hdd or to use this isos? i want to use this debian live on may computers, and be able to access my files, not just to |
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| 14:27.28 | peta_ | hello everybody |
| 14:27.44 | peta_ | don't laugh at me … what is a secure way to trigger a graceful restart of apache from a low-privilege script? |
| 14:28.07 | abrotman | sudo |
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| 14:28.55 | peta_ | I have a PHP web application that must be able to trigger a apaceh restart. without entering my password to it first :) |
| 14:29.00 | peta_ | is there a way to do this? |
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| 14:30.00 | abrotman | sudo |
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| 14:30.44 | peta_ | abrotman: :) okay, could you please elaborate a little bit on how to do this? |
| 14:31.25 | akurczyk | peta_: useradd |
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| 14:32.46 | abrotman | peta_: man sudoers |
| 14:33.42 | abrotman | akurczyk: how does that help? |
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| 14:51.48 | wolfez | hello |
| 14:52.07 | wolfez | im having debian lxde |
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| 14:52.17 | wolfez | where can i find the settings? |
| 14:52.23 | abrotman | your'e having? |
| 14:52.27 | abrotman | there's a Setting option in the menu |
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| 14:52.52 | wolfez | abrotman: thatsall? |
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| 14:53.49 | wolfez | ?? |
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| 14:54.38 | valexandru | does anybody know how to control the fan speed? |
| 14:54.52 | abrotman | valexandru: of what? |
| 14:54.58 | abrotman | wolfez: what seettings are you looking for? |
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| 14:55.12 | valexandru | abrotman, of the computer |
| 14:55.41 | valexandru | CPU's fan speed i mean |
| 14:55.54 | wolfez | abrotman: Nothing, but i couldnt find the, |
| 14:56.12 | abrotman | valexandru: depends on your system type .. please give the channel more details |
| 14:56.21 | abrotman | wolfez: so you're all good now? |
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| 14:56.32 | valexandru | abrotman, what kind of details? |
| 14:56.49 | abrotman | system type? |
| 14:56.53 | wolfez | abrotman: Yes :) |
| 14:57.22 | abrotman | "HIYAS I HAVE A COMPUTER, FAN NO WORKIE!" .. Is that a 486? laptop? ARM? |
| 14:57.47 | valexandru | Linux stefan 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:57.57 | valexandru | it's an amd processor |
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| 15:09.10 | LinuxGuy2020 | Whats really confusing me is that the Wheezy 64bit 7.1.0 Bluray image that I burned will install fully on a virtualbox machine. I would assume that the disk is good. I just cant see why it wont install on my desktop machine. Ive had Debian installed on this machine since version 5 lenny. What could be wrong? The DVD installs fine, but I need the blurays to work for offline use. |
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| 15:09.12 | txomon | I finally succeeded installin with UEFI |
| 15:09.13 | txomon | :D |
| 15:09.25 | txomon | now I am stuck with the wireless driver |
| 15:09.29 | txomon | ;( |
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| 15:10.07 | txomon | I can't get this chipset working: BCM43142 |
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| 15:10.37 | txomon | already installed firmware-realtek and firmware-brcm80211 |
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| 15:13.40 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Debian_7.0_(Wheezy)_on_a_ThinkPad_Edge_E135 |
| 15:13.54 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: same chipset |
| 15:14.28 | abrotman | txomon: that's not the right model number |
| 15:14.42 | abrotman | it should be like bcm4314 or bcm4312 |
| 15:15.08 | abrotman | (unless they changed their naming scheme) |
| 15:15.20 | LinuxGuy2020 | abrotman: No there is a BCM43142 out there. |
| 15:15.30 | abrotman | damn broadcom |
| 15:15.34 | abrotman | US,160658 |
| 15:15.43 | txomon | yes, damn broadcom |
| 15:15.48 | LinuxGuy2020 | abrotman: Yep |
| 15:15.53 | abrotman | dpkg: tell txomon about BCM43142 |
| 15:16.06 | abrotman | no one cares about that random paste above :) |
| 15:16.19 | LinuxGuy2020 | lol |
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| 15:16.48 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: Looks like non-free drivers that are not in the repos from the looks of it. |
| 15:16.50 | txomon | as a point, I am using Lenovo b590 |
| 15:17.16 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2020: they are ... |
| 15:17.26 | abrotman | oh .. nevermind .. |
| 15:17.28 | abrotman | damn dell |
| 15:17.31 | abrotman | damn broadcom |
| 15:17.36 | txomon | I was looking that thread (the #688823) |
| 15:17.40 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: When I used to have my Dell Inspiron Mini I remember downloading the driver from there website. It was pretty painless. |
| 15:17.52 | txomon | abrotman: its also used in lenovo b590 |
| 15:18.05 | abrotman | txomon: i meant based on what the bot said |
| 15:18.22 | chrisirc | Is there a commandline tool that opens documents the same way that for example gnome does? i.e. using Debian's or Gnome's registry. |
| 15:18.26 | LinuxGuy2020 | Richard Stallman would not have approved at all. I fealt naughty. |
| 15:18.53 | chrisirc | i.e. so that I can say "open foo.xyz" and it will run the program that handles xyz with that file. |
| 15:19.03 | rypervenche | chrisirc: xdg-open foo.xyz |
| 15:19.11 | chrisirc | thanks, trying. |
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| 15:19.34 | chrisirc | Perfect. |
| 15:20.06 | txomon | so I have to go to their webpage... |
| 15:21.20 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: Let me check for you. I have time. |
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| 15:23.12 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: you on wheezy right? 32 or 64? |
| 15:23.33 | txomon | 64 |
| 15:23.37 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: k |
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| 15:25.49 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: I read on that link I posted for you that you can use a newer Ubuntu package for it. |
| 15:26.06 | LinuxGuy2020 | Under the heading "BCM43142 models" |
| 15:26.07 | txomon | LinuxGuy2020: I got it working with the thread abrotman pointed |
| 15:26.18 | txomon | http://jas.gemnetworks.com/debian/pool/main/w/wireless-bcm43142/ |
| 15:26.22 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: good deal |
| 15:26.41 | txomon | thanks a lot LinuxGuy2020 |
| 15:26.57 | LinuxGuy2020 | txomon: I tried |
| 15:26.59 | txomon | (and abrotman for knowing nearly all the issues on Debian) |
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| 15:27.36 | txomon | I may leave now, thanks for your help! |
| 15:27.41 | txomon | bb! |
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| 15:36.40 | legg | hello all, how would I find a mentor to help add a package to debian? |
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| 15:37.05 | LinuxGuy2020 | legg: Just ask what you need and we will try and help. |
| 15:37.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell legg about mentors |
| 15:37.25 | abrotman | dpkg: tell legg about nmg |
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| 15:38.33 | legg | I have compiled a newer version of clanlib and super methane bros. game and I would like to have it available as a debian package |
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| 15:39.06 | abrotman | what version of libclan is it? |
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| 15:39.57 | legg | Clanlib-2.3.6 |
| 15:40.26 | abrotman | legg: do you want to be the maintainer for the package, or just help out? |
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| 15:41.14 | abrotman | legg: you have two ways to go .. you can ask #debian-mentors, or ask #debian-games about helping out with maintaining it .. both channels are on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:41.37 | legg | I don't know where to start? I would be the maintainer if I knew how |
| 15:42.19 | abrotman | first, hit up #debian-games, see if they'd be interested in having you help (I'm going to say they probably would) .. then you can ask #debian-mentors how to ensure your packaging work is up to par |
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| 15:43.04 | abrotman | legg: make sense? |
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| 15:43.51 | legg | debian-mentors is invite only |
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| 15:44.54 | legg | ok, thanks! just realized it's not on freenode |
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| 15:54.14 | abrotman | legg: which i said a few times :) |
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| 15:55.02 | legg | thanks abrotman |
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| 15:55.47 | deroot | I have a computer at the office that I use it for both downloading and my work. I turn off it at ~15:00 O'clock and it turns on at 22:00 by itself (using BIOS features). I've set a `crontab -e` to run transmission-gtk and wget applications at 22:15. the problem is "login screen = GDM" that prompts for the password to authenticate the user. I can't disable it and active auto-login because the computer is at work and my personal files is storage on it. is there any |
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| 15:57.34 | deroot | *storaged |
| 15:57.53 | abrotman | deroot: why not use something like a CLI client |
| 15:58.03 | abrotman | you were also truncated |
| 15:58.20 | abrotman | deroot: something like rtorrent |
| 16:00.16 | deroot | abrotman: you mean cli commands can start without authentication? also wget? |
| 16:00.47 | abrotman | deroot: you can even start it inside a screen session so you can acess this later (i'd recommend that) |
| 16:00.50 | abrotman | access |
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| 16:02.20 | deroot | abrotman: I didn't get! what do you mean for "acess this later"? 'this' referes to? |
| 16:02.29 | deroot | *access |
| 16:02.35 | abrotman | deroot: all of your programs that are running |
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| 16:04.32 | legg | screen can detach and re-atach running process |
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| 16:07.50 | deroot | abrotman: 1. I can start commands by crontab without login to desktop 2. commands does not interrupt if I login 3. graphical programs can't start from GDM without login -> these are that I get! -> correct? |
| 16:07.50 | deroot | I checked now and there is a transmission-cli software (transmissio-[Tab][Tab]). |
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| 16:18.07 | abrotman | deroot: i've never used the -cli part of transmission, but go ahead and give it a whirl |
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| 16:44.28 | b0ss_ | hey how to play AVI files on Wheezy ? |
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| 16:47.52 | lord_rob | install vlc or mplayer |
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| 16:49.59 | lord_rob | b0ss_: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/vlc |
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| 16:54.19 | rndnickf393lvm | i started lvconvert --merge to merge a snapshot on a system with old 2.6.x kernel missing snapshot-merge (squeeze). now i can't open the lv. can i fix/complete the merge with a newer kernel (wheezy) or should i plan to restore from backup? |
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| 17:05.24 | frostschutz | rndnickf393lvm, that's a tough one. LVM usually likes to make backups in /etc/lvm/archive or /etc/lvm/backup, see if the newest one says "created before lvconvert --merge", then maybe that could be used. |
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| 17:12.58 | maroloccio | hi :) i am on wheezy, have this bug (http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2013/05/msg00539.html). i'd like to install a kernel > 3.8.. it's the only way to get rid of the bug.. |
| 17:13.40 | brontosaurusrex | maroloccio, perhaps just upgrade to jessie? |
| 17:14.25 | maroloccio | brontosaurusrex: how? |
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| 17:15.22 | brontosaurusrex | maroloccio, something like http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=308725#p308725 |
| 17:15.43 | brontosaurusrex | maroloccio, + possible breakage warning, just so i will not be guilty |
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| 17:17.08 | brontosaurusrex | maroloccio, + I would probably disable #! repos |
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| 17:17.49 | brontosaurusrex | or make them lesser priority than 1000 |
| 17:19.14 | maroloccio | oh. thanks brontosaurusrex. |
| 17:19.28 | maroloccio | land of sudden "unsupported everything" :) |
| 17:21.25 | maroloccio | what are my options to get a kernel 3.8 on wheezy |
| 17:21.35 | maroloccio | 1) is the one mentioned by brontosaurusrex |
| 17:21.38 | maroloccio | 2) ... ? |
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| 17:23.13 | babilen | maroloccio: Does it have to be 3.8 exactly or would 3.9 be an option too? |
| 17:23.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell maroloccio about backports |
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| 17:24.11 | maroloccio | babilen: 3.9 is an option, yes |
| 17:24.38 | babilen | If the latter, just install the 3.9 kernel from backports. I would actually recommend to install the linux-image-amd64 / linux-image-686-pae metapackage as that will pull in newer kernels as they arrive in backports |
| 17:24.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell maroloccio about bdo kernel |
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| 17:26.20 | LinuxGuy2020 | Besides making a bug report (which i have done), what else can i do to get someone to check out the bd-r install images that dont work? |
| 17:26.25 | babilen | maroloccio: Please also make sure to install relevant firmware packages from wheezy-backports too. You can list all currently installed firmware packages by running "aptitude search ~i~nfirmware" and you would install all those from backports with, say, "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install PKG1 PKG2 ..." |
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| 17:28.54 | maroloccio | i am using 32bit/ |
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| 17:31.25 | doebi | i can't take a screenshot using 'Print' key on keyboard |
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| 17:31.31 | doebi | nothing happens at all |
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| 17:33.12 | doebi | i simply want to take a stupid screenshot |
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| 17:33.58 | abrotman | did you try ctrl+PrtSc ? |
| 17:34.00 | abrotman | or alt+? |
| 17:34.48 | brontosaurusrex | doebi, "scrot scrot.png" does anything? |
| 17:34.50 | wolfez | Can somone help me |
| 17:34.56 | wolfez | I want flash on debian |
| 17:34.57 | abrotman | did you ask a questoin? |
| 17:35.01 | wolfez | But how? |
| 17:35.01 | abrotman | !tell wolfez about adobe flash |
| 17:35.37 | doebi | brontosaurusrex: command not found |
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| 17:35.46 | abrotman | doebi: install it |
| 17:35.57 | brontosaurusrex | doebi, sorry, iam on the wrong channel, lol |
| 17:36.07 | wolfez | abrotman: I know, but when i do apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree it doesnt work |
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| 17:36.27 | abrotman | !tell wolfez about non-free |
| 17:36.35 | abrotman | did you read the wiki page about the adobe flash? |
| 17:36.51 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell drhouse123 about ru |
| 17:37.18 | maroloccio | babilen, abrotman: thank you, i am working on your suggestions.. (not the first time i use backports but first i do something like this - i'll have to change many things around..) |
| 17:38.07 | drhouse123 | jelly-home: my english so bad ? |
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| 17:38.53 | wolfez | abrotman: I just need to set contrib non-free on the end? |
| 17:39.02 | abrotman | sure |
| 17:41.16 | wolfez | :) |
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| 17:49.20 | wolfez | abrotman: It works |
| 17:49.52 | abrotman | did you think i would lie? |
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| 17:50.42 | mumpitze1 | abrotman: well.... :P |
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| 17:52.44 | krababbel | clonepart.ext4 gets stuck when I use the -q quiet option. |
| 17:53.20 | krababbel | It reads the sectors at the beginning, but the it doesn't do anything anymore. Normal mode works fine. |
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| 17:54.37 | jelly-home | !nl |
| 17:54.38 | dpkg | Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl. |
| 17:54.52 | jelly-home | did you mean that? |
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| 17:57.55 | bolder | hi |
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| 18:00.15 | wxcafe | hey |
| 18:00.32 | wxcafe | i'm trying to set up a prosody install on my debian wheezy server |
| 18:00.59 | wxcafe | using cyrus-sasl as a bridge for pam auth |
| 18:01.16 | wxcafe | well prosody works, but the connection with sasl doesn't |
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| 18:01.30 | wxcafe | which is weird, because postfix works fine with sasl |
| 18:01.48 | wxcafe | has anyone already got this working? |
| 18:01.55 | wxcafe | can anyone help me on this? |
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| 18:03.16 | abrotman | isn't postfix in a chroot? |
| 18:03.46 | wxcafe | not on my server |
| 18:03.57 | wxcafe | well i don't remember setting it so |
| 18:04.02 | wxcafe | (it's been a long time) |
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| 18:05.59 | mumpitze1 | wxcafe: it does it automatically. see /etc/postfix/master.cf |
| 18:06.21 | jelly-home | debian defaults to almost all parts of postfix being chrooted, for some reason. This is different from what upstream does |
| 18:06.38 | jelly-home | I usually undo all that crap |
| 18:06.46 | wxcafe | that's weird, yeah |
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| 18:07.21 | wxcafe | but hmm, that's not the point |
| 18:08.27 | abrotman | are yo usure? |
| 18:09.05 | wxcafe | well the saslauthd pid is at /var/run/saslauthd |
| 18:09.12 | wxcafe | so i don't think it's the problem |
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| 18:09.46 | wxcafe | oh, and if i try using testsaslauthd, it works fine |
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| 18:13.36 | wxcafe | with both root and prosody users |
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| 18:16.44 | ichthys | YES |
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| 18:22.56 | maroloccio | babilen: linux-image-686-pae from backports is actually the best way for me to keep tracking 3.9+ updates on my wheezy, thank you. why did you mention upgrading firmware packages? (i do have some, wifi for example) |
| 18:23.39 | jelly-home | maroloccio: newer drivers (that come with newer kernels) often require updated, matching firmware bits |
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| 18:24.23 | babilen | exactly ^^ :) |
| 18:24.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell maroloccio -about microcode |
| 18:24.56 | babilen | Install microcode while you are at it too |
| 18:24.59 | Devastator | '/msg dpkg nvidia |
| 18:25.01 | Devastator | opss |
| 18:25.18 | babilen | Devastator: Bow your head in shame! |
| 18:25.33 | Devastator | heheh I will! |
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| 18:27.48 | maroloccio | babilen: alright.. so --get-selections to see what i already have from main (debian stable), then apt-get -t wheezy-backports install all of my firmware packages.. (which grep gets me the microcode updates?) |
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| 18:30.03 | babilen | maroloccio: I never mentioned --get-selections, but I guess that would work too. |
| 18:30.36 | babilen | maroloccio: I don't know if you have the microcode packages installed already, but I advise you to install them. |
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| 18:31.30 | maroloccio | babilen: i do not use aptitude.. generally the apt-{get,cache} front-ends and dpkg/dselect/etc directly |
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| 18:33.30 | babilen | maroloccio: One of the nice features of aptitude is its search functionality - You really might want to consider using aptitude for things it is good at (searches, interactive resolver, ...) |
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| 18:34.02 | dokma | what's the diff between: "ifconfig usb0 192.168.42.2/24" and "ifconfig usb0 192.168.42.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ?? |
| 18:34.12 | babilen | maroloccio: there is nothing wrong with using more than one tool. It is a bit like swearing not to use mv because cp + rm does the job too ;) |
| 18:35.29 | babilen | dokma: /24 is essentially a netmask of 255.255.255.0 in CIDR notation |
| 18:35.31 | maroloccio | babilen: nah, i was wondering whether you may be able to recommend a *better* way! there is always a better way.. anyway, this is how i check for installed firmware packages these days: dpkg --get-selections '*firmware*' |
| 18:35.37 | babilen | dokma: You might want ##networking though |
| 18:35.50 | dokma | babilen, interesting that one works and the other does not |
| 18:36.00 | babilen | maroloccio: Well, I did already didn't I? (aptitude search ~i~nfirmware) |
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| 18:36.35 | babilen | dokma: Well, ifconfig has been deprecated in favour of iproute2 for a while now already anyway ;) |
| 18:37.01 | babilen | You might have found a bug, but I am being called away now and won't debug this further. |
| 18:37.21 | dokma | babilen, this is in android so that might not apply |
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| 18:37.37 | maroloccio | babilen: you did. looks equivalent. :) where can i read more re: ifconfig's deprecation? (i use it, did not know about that) |
| 18:37.41 | Shtl | (Shtl) Can any one help me how to remove transend 8gb pen drive write protection |
| 18:37.43 | babilen | dokma: This is #debian so you are *clearly* asking about a Debian system. |
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| 18:37.55 | dokma | babilen, of course |
| 18:38.00 | wxcafe | and err |
| 18:38.33 | file-exists-p | how comes a remote xterm does not require to have the font installed server-side, while emacs needs it? |
| 18:38.34 | abrotman | Shtl: with which OS? |
| 18:38.53 | babilen | dokma: But I guess I just have to ask you to take your question to another channel. Please bear in mind that we only support Debian here. I'd recommend ##networking -- Please don't abuse this channel. |
| 18:38.57 | Shtl | Debian 7 |
| 18:39.03 | wxcafe | noone about that prosody problem? |
| 18:39.22 | abrotman | Shtl: have you considered it's part of the hardware |
| 18:39.37 | abrotman | wxcafe: have you verified that both user and user@domain work with SASL? |
| 18:39.47 | Shtl | There is no switch on it |
| 18:39.53 | abrotman | wxcafe: note that some apps require the domain to be filled in for the sasl |
| 18:40.01 | abrotman | (others do not) |
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| 18:40.08 | wxcafe | abrotman: aah, good point |
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| 18:40.40 | wxcafe | abrotman: looks like that's the problem |
| 18:41.30 | abrotman | wxcafe: sorry, i should have spoken up earlier :) |
| 18:41.41 | maroloccio | babilen: back to the search for microcode packages.. which pattern would you use? (tracking firmware packages from backports worked great, btw. :) |
| 18:41.50 | wxcafe | abrotman: now to find out how to fix it :) |
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| 18:42.08 | abrotman | wxcafe: when you add the user, IIRC, there's a -d flag |
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| 18:42.50 | wxcafe | abrotman: when i add the user? |
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| 18:43.58 | babilen | maroloccio: There are only two (intel-microcode or amd64-microcode) and you just install the one that corresponds to your processor (intel-microcode for Intel processors and amd64-microcode for AMD processors) |
| 18:44.10 | abrotman | wxcafe: it's been a while since i messed with all of those .. let me look |
| 18:44.29 | wxcafe | abrotman: i think if you do that i might fall in love with you |
| 18:44.31 | abrotman | wxcafe: saslpasswd2 has a -d flag ? |
| 18:44.59 | wxcafe | abrotman: saslpasswd2 is not on my system |
| 18:45.12 | abrotman | that's how i used to manipulate the SASL users |
| 18:45.27 | abrotman | oh, and it's -u for saslpasswd2 |
| 18:45.45 | wxcafe | well i'm using pam |
| 18:45.50 | wxcafe | so the users already exist |
| 18:46.02 | wxcafe | i mean, i don't have any "sasl users" |
| 18:46.03 | abrotman | can you configure prosody to change the auth requirements? |
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| 18:46.07 | DexterF | hi |
| 18:46.18 | wxcafe | sasl just checks with pam if the login matches the passwd |
| 18:46.27 | wxcafe | abrotman: yes, but what to? |
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| 18:47.07 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 18:47.07 | maroloccio | babilen: done. thank you. i am on 3.9. this includes the fix i needed that was hanging my laptop. i *really* appreciate your help. if you have a paypal account, i'll buy you coffee.. do you? |
| 18:47.09 | abrotman | wxcafe: i'm poking around a bit .. |
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| 18:47.23 | Bryanstein | Anyone in here ever used a unisys es7000 ? I'm having issues getting this huge hunk of metal to do anything other than turn on :oO |
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| 18:47.28 | DexterF | how can I compile kernel modules against a new kernel *before* rebooting to that kernel? |
| 18:47.35 | DexterF | src is not dkms-prepared |
| 18:48.01 | dokma | does Ian Murdock ever tread around here? |
| 18:48.11 | abrotman | wxcafe: i should also note that the prosody channel was fairly helpful when I was working with it |
| 18:48.18 | abrotman | dokma: three times a week |
| 18:48.27 | abrotman | Bryanstein: what are you expecting it to do? |
| 18:48.30 | dokma | what's his nick? |
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| 18:48.57 | Bryanstein | abrotman, to actually give me video output...say boot a cdrom |
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| 18:49.02 | Bryanstein | act like a computer |
| 18:49.02 | jelly-home | dokma: ^^ sarcasm |
| 18:49.04 | wxcafe | abrotman: well when i asked my question there, i didn't get any answwer despite waiting for ~2hours |
| 18:49.06 | abrotman | Bryanstein: oh, this isn't Debian related ? |
| 18:49.09 | jeffrin | any channel to discuss about debian newmaint |
| 18:49.18 | abrotman | jeffrin: the process or packaging? |
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| 18:49.20 | dokma | damn |
| 18:49.33 | jelly-home | yes, sarcasm is evil |
| 18:49.40 | abrotman | SDNWOTN |
| 18:49.43 | dokma | I had hope I found an OS project where the founder actually pops in here and there |
| 18:49.47 | jeffrin | abrotman : i have tried to adopt a package |
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| 18:50.09 | abrotman | !tell jeffrin about mentors |
| 18:50.12 | abrotman | i guess? |
| 18:50.21 | Bryanstein | abrotman, there is basically no where else to ask...Debian users have been known to run Debian on obscure hardware. It's a Debian question because I run Debian lol |
| 18:50.48 | Bryanstein | dokma, Ian has moved on to many other things |
| 18:51.12 | jeffrin | abrotman : let me try related to debian-mentors |
| 18:51.17 | dokma | that's ok, still it would be ok to pop in here and there... |
| 18:51.20 | jelly-home | dokma: try Slackware |
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| 18:51.29 | wxcafe | or crunchbang |
| 18:51.32 | abrotman | or myspace |
| 18:51.37 | wxcafe | haha |
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| 18:51.48 | abrotman | Bryanstein: does it possibly require a sync-on-green monitor or osmething ? |
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| 18:52.47 | jeffrin | abrotman : it says i have been kicked off related and it is a invite only channel |
| 18:52.49 | Bryanstein | abrotman, naw...there is some odd issue that has completely escaped me...something else is a miss. I have two of these units and they do the same thing |
| 18:52.57 | abrotman | jeffrin: irc.oftc.net, read the whole factoid |
| 18:52.59 | Bryanstein | Although all lights are green |
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| 18:53.25 | Bryanstein | dokma, so why is it that you want the founder to "hang around"? |
| 18:53.30 | abrotman | Bryanstein: you might want to see if #hardware has an idea .. or see if there's something like a #oldgreybeards :) |
| 18:53.39 | abrotman | i guess it's ##hardware now |
| 18:53.53 | maroloccio | (service ssh start) works.. (invoke-rc.d ssh start) does not. 1) why? 2) seems like /etc/init.d/ssh is just a normal dependency-aware init script.. should it not respond to invoke-rc.d? |
| 18:53.56 | dokma | maybe I'm just romantic... who knows |
| 18:54.21 | jeffrin | abrotman : hey i got in with irc.oftc.net |
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| 18:54.31 | jeffrin | abrotman : any thanks |
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| 18:55.10 | Bryanstein | abrotman, sure...I'll pop in and see if anyone has any knowledge |
| 18:57.21 | Bryanstein | dokma, the whole power of free software is that it empowers others to be the founder at moments in time |
| 18:58.13 | Bryanstein | 80 years from now...can someone expect the founder of their project to say...be at a local coffee house? Do you expect Beethoven to hang out at the local symphony lol |
| 18:58.26 | wxcafe | i'd like that |
| 18:58.37 | dokma | Bryanstein, you've got a point |
| 18:58.39 | wxcafe | "hey beethov, how's it going?" |
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| 18:59.00 | dokma | but romance is not a logical thing. that's why you don't have a girlfriend ;) |
| 18:59.16 | wxcafe | man, i'm french |
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| 18:59.25 | wxcafe | don't even dare tell me what romance is |
| 18:59.31 | Bryanstein | LOL |
| 18:59.39 | wxcafe | do i try to tell you what a burger looks like? |
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| 19:01.07 | jgiorgi | icedove constantly redownloads messages and entire folders (i use imap) can this behavior be changed? |
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| 19:01.47 | wxcafe | anyway :) |
| 19:01.55 | wxcafe | abrotman: so any news? |
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| 19:11.12 | wxcafe | hmm |
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| 19:11.39 | wxcafe | the weird thing is, in /var/log/prosody/prosody.log, it looks like prosody doesn't get the user name |
| 19:12.06 | wxcafe | "Jul 07 21:10:52 c2s986640infoDestroying session for (unknown) ((unknown)@wxcafe.net)") |
| 19:12.10 | wxcafe | woops |
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| 19:12.22 | wxcafe | "Jul 07 21:10:52 c2s986640 info Destroying session for (unknown) ((unknown)@wxcafe.net)") |
| 19:12.39 | abrotman | could it be a problem with your client setup? |
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| 19:12.50 | abrotman | have you tried not using sasl with prosody just to see if you can get it to work? |
| 19:12.52 | wxcafe | well my client works with google's servers |
| 19:13.02 | wxcafe | yep, it works without sasl |
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| 19:16.11 | abrotman | it seems like it's not passing the user/domain correctly |
| 19:16.42 | wxcafe | it definitely looks like it |
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| 19:18.06 | abrotman | does not miss messing with SASL on a weekly basis |
| 19:19.02 | wxcafe | the thing is, i don't have a damn clue where the problem is |
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| 19:19.55 | abrotman | you can put pam in debug mode |
| 19:20.01 | wxcafe | haha |
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| 19:20.08 | abrotman | no? |
| 19:20.26 | wxcafe | that's pretty much like sending a rocket to the sun and expecting the passengers to come back in a boat |
| 19:20.28 | robin_sz | so ... where does Firefox pick up its flashplayer from in Debian, im gussing its a .so someplace |
| 19:20.32 | wxcafe | but yeah, i guess i could :p |
| 19:20.45 | abrotman | wxcafe: you don't have much of a choice from what i can tell ? |
| 19:20.56 | wxcafe | abrotman: i must agree |
| 19:21.51 | abrotman | wxcafe: vi /etc/rsyslog.conf .. make sure *.debug is enabled, then touch /etc/pam_debug IIRC |
| 19:22.02 | wxcafe | abrotman: correct :) |
| 19:22.20 | abrotman | don't forget to restart rsyslog .. and you also have to add the pam debug stuff to whichever pam mechanism you want to debug |
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| 19:23.22 | wxcafe | now that's a good question |
| 19:23.34 | wxcafe | which pam mechanism am i trying to debug... |
| 19:23.48 | wxcafe | common-auth? |
| 19:23.58 | abrotman | don't know what your WF is |
| 19:24.01 | abrotman | workflow |
| 19:24.23 | wxcafe | well my workflow is telling sasl to use pam |
| 19:24.34 | wxcafe | i don't know what it does, after that |
| 19:24.35 | abrotman | which PAM? |
| 19:25.00 | wxcafe | 'MECHANISMS="pam"' |
| 19:25.11 | wxcafe | that's all i know, officer |
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| 19:26.32 | abrotman | so try the common-auth i suppose |
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| 19:29.05 | wxcafe | abrotman: got that : http://pastie.org/8118854 |
| 19:29.56 | abrotman | wxcafe: so it looks like it's passing your full user@domain which PAM can't grok ? |
| 19:30.04 | wxcafe | yup |
| 19:30.21 | wxcafe | which is weird, because postfix works the exact same way |
| 19:30.31 | wxcafe | wait a minute |
| 19:31.06 | wxcafe | ooh |
| 19:31.15 | wxcafe | looks like postfix is failing now |
| 19:31.29 | wxcafe | we're moving. Not in the right direction, but we're moving |
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| 19:33.47 | wxcafe | alright, so now postfix's working again |
| 19:34.02 | abrotman | and prosody is still busted? |
| 19:34.09 | wxcafe | but prosody still isn't |
| 19:34.23 | wxcafe | (postfix wasn't working because of symlinks ) |
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| 19:35.41 | abrotman | which XMPP client are you using? |
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| 19:35.51 | wxcafe | gajim |
| 19:35.55 | abrotman | really? |
| 19:35.58 | wxcafe | yep |
| 19:36.03 | abrotman | !pal wxcafe |
| 19:36.04 | dpkg | points at wxcafe and laughs |
| 19:36.12 | wxcafe | why? |
| 19:36.19 | abrotman | goes to look at the interface screenshots :) |
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| 19:36.29 | wxcafe | oh, come one |
| 19:36.31 | wxcafe | on* |
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| 19:36.56 | wxcafe | i didn't yet have time to configure bitlbee |
| 19:37.10 | wxcafe | and it actually looks pretty good in my tilingWM |
| 19:37.12 | abrotman | what is your username for the account ? |
| 19:37.25 | wxcafe | wxcafe@wxcafe.net (original, ain't it?) |
| 19:37.32 | abrotman | can you try just wxcafe |
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| 19:37.45 | wxcafe | nope, tells me it's not a valid username |
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| 19:37.54 | wxcafe | (which is good, becase it isn't) |
| 19:37.58 | abrotman | which the other one does as well ? |
| 19:38.15 | wxcafe | which other one? |
| 19:38.24 | abrotman | including the @wxcafe.net |
| 19:38.41 | wxcafe | wait, which other one? |
| 19:39.51 | nl287 | have you working tor? |
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| 19:40.00 | wxcafe | i don't use tor |
| 19:40.01 | abrotman | you tried "wxcafe" and "wxcafe@wxcafe.net", right ? |
| 19:40.19 | wxcafe | abrotman: wxcafe is not authorized by gajim |
| 19:40.40 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 19:40.47 | wxcafe | which is logical |
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| 19:40.53 | Tenchworks | I have a question about partioning. During a fresh debian install, using the graphical installer, the guided partitioning option using LVM and whole disk with a seperate /home partition wants to give / 10GB. Normally I tend to give / 15-20GB but the desire for 15+GB an old windows XP update bloatage buffer thinking style that I really should stop applying to other os's. My question is whether |
| 19:40.53 | Tenchworks | or not 10GB for / is fine when /home is on a seperate (and much larger) partition, and in todays terms, what should I expect disk space usage on / to be on a base desktop install with xfce as the WM for a generally websurfing machine? |
| 19:40.54 | wxcafe | because it ain't legal |
| 19:41.00 | Tenchworks | bleh sorry for wall of text |
| 19:41.05 | abrotman | wxcafe: it could be, depending on other config options |
| 19:41.39 | wxcafe | Tenchworks: give it 25 gigs, it's plenty enough |
| 19:42.05 | wxcafe | abrotman: i think it's illegal in xmpp specs |
| 19:42.55 | anonnumberanon | Tenchworks, 10Gb, change it later if need be. |
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| 19:43.04 | abrotman | wxcafe: are you using cyrus sasl? |
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| 19:43.06 | tgs3 | thebananafish_: 10 GB is not that bad |
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| 19:43.10 | wxcafe | abrotman: yep |
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| 19:44.08 | Tenchworks | anonnumberanon, I'm new to lvm's, will it be trivial to upsize it in the future should the need arise? |
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| 19:44.35 | wxcafe | abrotman: but it's weird |
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| 19:46.15 | wxcafe | abrotman: because postfix gets "sasl_username=wxcafe" while prosody gets "[user=wxcafe@wxcafe.net] [service=prosody] [realm=wxcafe.net]" |
| 19:46.28 | anonnumberanon | Tenchworks, I have no idea what LVMs are for all the installs I've ever done were never LVMs. |
| 19:46.53 | abrotman | wxcafe: because you're only sending your UID to postfix, right ? |
| 19:48.03 | Tenchworks | Alrighty, well thanks yall |
| 19:48.14 | wxcafe | abrotman: my muttrc says 'set smtp_url = "smtp://wxcafe@wxcafe.net:465/"' |
| 19:48.18 | wxcafe | so, no |
| 19:48.32 | abrotman | but postfix correctly separates the UID and realm |
| 19:49.00 | wxcafe | abrotman: looks like it |
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| 19:50.35 | babilen | maroloccio: No, I don't and I wouldn't accept any money anyway. If you want to thank me stay in this channel and help other people whenever you can. Great that it worked out and you are most welcome. |
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| 19:51.55 | nl287 | something strange is with tor |
| 19:52.04 | wxcafe | abrotman: that bothers me so much... |
| 19:52.15 | abrotman | wxcafe: PAM bothers me sometimes :) |
| 19:52.45 | wxcafe | abrotman: pam bothers me all the time -.- |
| 19:52.55 | abrotman | wxcafe: can you pastebin your prosidy config files ? |
| 19:53.06 | wxcafe | abrotman: yep, doing it right now |
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| 19:56.34 | wxcafe | abrotman: http://paste.wxcafe.net/?5039f281b12bc382#6OkS8gq/4ek55gLCxiGIiSD4SUc1weI94K5XKPtZQss= |
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| 19:59.38 | abrotman | wxcafe: anything in the conf.d/ that might override your settings? |
| 20:00.08 | wxcafe | abrotman: nothing in there |
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| 20:03.13 | abrotman | wxcafe: and your /etc/sasl/prosody.conf looks normal also? juts a couple of lines? |
| 20:03.25 | wxcafe | yep |
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| 20:03.40 | wxcafe | wait |
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| 20:03.53 | wxcafe | /etc/sasl is a symlink to /usr/lib/sasl2 |
| 20:03.57 | abrotman | i wonder if the service_name matters? |
| 20:04.26 | abrotman | all the docs I look at say to use cyrus_service_name="xmpp", but i'm not sure where that becomes important |
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| 20:05.59 | abrotman | wxcafe: and you installed liblua5.1-cyrussasl0, right ? |
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| 20:06.11 | abrotman | though i suspect the auth wouldn't get logged without it |
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| 20:06.31 | wxcafe | abrotman: yes i did |
| 20:09.06 | abrotman | the docs are not so great ... |
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| 20:10.56 | wxcafe | not so. |
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| 20:13.07 | abrotman | wxcafe: so the only thing i really see is that your service_name is set to "prosody" and all the docs say to set it to "xmpp" |
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| 20:13.18 | wxcafe | abrotman: let me try |
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| 20:13.43 | abrotman | wxcafe: it says it's opptional and defaults to 'xmpp' .. |
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| 20:15.15 | wxcafe | abrotman: nope, still the same error |
| 20:15.56 | abrotman | wxcafe: and no one in #prosody ever answered eh? |
| 20:16.17 | wxcafe | abrotman: well #prosody is empty |
| 20:16.27 | wxcafe | abrotman: i meant the prosody chat room |
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| 20:16.50 | abrotman | wxcafe: http://code.google.com/p/gtalksms/issues/detail?id=217 .. see, that's the same thing you're seeing, right ? |
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| 20:17.48 | abrotman | no idea why it's at that codebase |
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| 20:18.43 | wxcafe | abrotman: i don't have a _xmpp-client._tcp.wxcafe.net |
| 20:18.51 | abrotman | wxcafe: can you try another client like pidgin that allows you to separate the UID and domain ? |
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| 20:21.17 | wxcafe | abrotman: pidgin throws the same error |
| 20:21.32 | abrotman | how did you configure it? |
| 20:21.39 | abrotman | or rather, what did you put as your username? |
| 20:21.47 | wxcafe | wxcafe as username |
| 20:21.52 | wxcafe | and wxcafe.net as domain |
| 20:22.09 | abrotman | and the error is that the user doesn't exdist, or auth fails? |
| 20:22.24 | wxcafe | pidgin says auth fails |
| 20:22.35 | wxcafe | but pam says [user=wxcafe@wxcafe.net] |
| 20:22.38 | abrotman | can you try without anything in the domain field ? |
| 20:22.47 | abrotman | (if it will let you save it) |
| 20:23.48 | wxcafe | invalid ID |
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| 20:23.59 | abrotman | this is awful |
| 20:24.12 | wxcafe | yep |
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| 20:25.44 | abrotman | when i did this before, i used the domain part of the saslpasswd to set the realm for auth'ing .. everything worked great after that |
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| 20:27.55 | CableNinja | afternoon all, I just bought a new laptop that is uefi, my old one was not. I found a guide from april last year to convert to uefi, but I wanted to know if it still applied or if converting it to uefi was something more simple now? |
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| 20:28.23 | wxcafe | abrotman: i tried logging in manually using telnet |
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| 20:29.04 | abrotman | wxcafe: and worlds collided? |
| 20:29.24 | wxcafe | abrotman: but i can't do ssl by hand |
| 20:29.34 | wxcafe | abrotman: and the server requires ssl |
| 20:29.43 | wxcafe | abrotman: wait, i'll try using openssl |
| 20:29.56 | jhutchins | abrotman: How does one check to see if a newish package might be a candidate for Debian? |
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| 20:30.28 | abrotman | jhutchins: you mean an ITP or RFP? |
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| 20:31.03 | jhutchins | abrotman: Not sure what ITP is, possibly RFP. Plex media server, packaged for Ubuntu but I'm not sure about licensing. |
| 20:31.21 | abrotman | jhutchins: you can check the license on Ubuntu's site |
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| 20:32.30 | abrotman | jhutchins: i don't see an ITP or RFP for it |
| 20:33.17 | abrotman | jhutchins: what's the package name for the other distro ? |
| 20:33.34 | jhutchins | abrotman: Not sure if it's distributed by ubuntu. |
| 20:33.41 | wxcafe | abrotman: what do you mean, using the domain part of the saslpasswd to set the realm? |
| 20:33.46 | jhutchins | abrotman: plexmediaserver_0.9.7.28.33-f80a4a2_i386.deb |
| 20:34.21 | abrotman | wxcafe: this is what i was talking about oroginally, I used the -u option of saslpasswd2 to set the realm for usernames, then auth would work correctly |
| 20:34.38 | abrotman | jhutchins: seems like a PPA or something, i don't see it on their website |
| 20:34.50 | wxcafe | abrotman: oh right, but then sasl is having its own database of users |
| 20:34.51 | wxcafe | ? |
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| 20:35.14 | abrotman | wxcafe: right, which you don't want |
| 20:35.32 | wxcafe | abrotman: not really |
| 20:35.43 | abrotman | jhutchins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plex_(software)#Legality |
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| 20:38.25 | abrotman | wxcafe: Bleh, I hate to say it, but there's are two small #xmpp and #jabber .. I was able to get good help there ages ago. |
| 20:38.46 | abrotman | wxcafe: i can't tell if this is a SASL problem or a Prosody issue |
| 20:38.53 | wxcafe | abrotman: i |
| 20:39.01 | wxcafe | abrotman: i'd say a sasl problem |
| 20:39.07 | jhutchins | abrotman: Danke. Looks like it might be a good candidate. |
| 20:39.16 | abrotman | jhutchins: i'd disagree |
| 20:39.19 | wxcafe | abrotman: since prosody works nice with its own users |
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| 20:39.46 | abrotman | wxcafe: but it could be the way that prosody is configured to send the user/realm to PAM |
| 20:39.54 | wxcafe | possible |
| 20:40.09 | wxcafe | abrotman: but understood. I'll be on #jabber if you need me |
| 20:40.16 | jhutchins | abrotman: Ah, it seems the server is proprietary/closed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plex_(software)#Plex_Media_Server |
| 20:40.18 | wxcafe | abrotman: thanks for your help :) |
| 20:40.20 | abrotman | wxcafe: i'm there .. ay |
| 20:40.20 | abrotman | yay |
| 20:40.32 | abrotman | wxcafe: sorry i couldn't be more help |
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| 20:40.50 | jhutchins | abrotman: Also in your reference I see. |
| 20:40.52 | wxcafe | abrotman: you were plenty help already! thanks |
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| 20:41.10 | CableNinja | is efi conversion as simple as installing grub-efi and its assosicated grub-efi-{arch} package? also how can I install packages from a live cd onto my actual system |
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| 20:47.05 | monod | what if I put debian 7 into a netbook? |
| 20:47.11 | monod | will it run fast? |
| 20:47.41 | monod | oh |
| 20:47.48 | monod | I think I already know the answer: |
| 20:48.00 | monod | change WM, that's all. I've asked that |
| 20:48.10 | monod | I've already* asked that |
| 20:48.31 | CableNinja | ....heh |
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| 20:59.18 | jhutchins | ,versions glibc |
| 20:59.19 | Devastator | ,versions xampp |
| 20:59.19 | judd | No package named 'glibc' was found in i386. |
| 20:59.20 | judd | No package named 'xampp' was found in i386. |
| 20:59.23 | jhutchins | ,versions glibc-2 |
| 20:59.24 | judd | No package named 'glibc-2' was found in i386. |
| 20:59.54 | abrotman | jhutchins: packages.debian.org/glibc |
| 20:59.59 | abrotman | or just libc |
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| 21:03.26 | jhutchins | Interesting, aptitude search returns it as a virtual package. |
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| 21:05.01 | Devastator | does debian have a better way to install xampp? I mean, "don't install xampp, install apache+php separately" |
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| 21:07.06 | abrotman | Devastator: aptitude install mysql-server php5-mysql apache2 |
| 21:07.38 | Devastator | which ftp server is advisable? |
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| 21:11.45 | jhutchins | Devastator: ftp is an insecure and deprecated protocol. |
| 21:12.03 | Devastator | hummm, right, scp :) |
| 21:12.17 | jhutchins | Devastator: Right, scp/rsnc/sftp. |
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| 21:16.35 | Nothing4You | i am looking to enable a ton of IPv6 addresses on my server |
| 21:16.47 | Nothing4You | what would be the best practice for that? |
| 21:17.24 | Nothing4You | adding two lines per address in /etc/network/interfaces seems to be quite much |
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| 21:19.27 | abrotman | Nothing4You: a script |
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| 21:19.53 | Nothing4You | you mean a script adding them ot /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:20.51 | Nothing4You | i feel like entries for e.g. 1000 addresses there wouldn't be the optimal solution |
| 21:21.09 | jhutchins | Nothing4You: Why are you adding so many addresses? |
| 21:21.16 | abrotman | has a good idea ... |
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| 21:21.23 | Nothing4You | i need them for some service |
| 21:21.30 | Nothing4You | rDNS and stuff |
| 21:21.44 | jhutchins | Nothing4You: The reason it seems ridiculous is because it's a ridiculous thng to do. |
| 21:22.12 | Nothing4You | why would i have a /64 subnet if it's not intended to be used? |
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| 21:22.43 | abrotman | do you actually need /64 IPs? |
| 21:23.16 | Nothing4You | no, i was just going to enable 1000 to have a pool of ips available |
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| 21:26.14 | dvs | that sounds like a dhcp server |
| 21:26.55 | jhutchins | dvs: You wouldn't want a dhcp server responding to all of it's available addresses. |
| 21:27.12 | dvs | ah, ok |
| 21:27.12 | Nothing4You | it's not about a dhcp server |
| 21:27.38 | Nothing4You | it's about some service i'm going to launch that will most likely need many IPs |
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| 21:28.30 | dcrypt | you can use a bash script to generate the vlan interfaces if thats what you're talking about |
| 21:28.42 | jhutchins | Spambots get detected even if they address hop, especially within a range. |
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| 21:29.48 | jhutchins | ... so do dos attacks. |
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| 21:30.03 | Nothing4You | it's not about attacks |
| 21:30.09 | Nothing4You | it's a bouncer service |
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| 21:30.54 | jhutchins | Nothing4You: There is probably a more reasonable way to do what you're trying to do than have 1000 addresses on the same NIC. |
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| 21:31.37 | jhutchins | Is a router table even going to be able to hold that much? |
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| 21:32.20 | Nothing4You | what do you mean |
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| 21:33.07 | Nothing4You | i have the /64 routed to my server |
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| 21:39.07 | frikinz | whats the reason why one has to choose very early kde install in the installer and not later? |
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| 21:40.38 | abrotman | what? |
| 21:41.44 | frikinz | or is this specific to netinst maybe |
| 21:42.19 | abrotman | your question doesnt' make sense |
| 21:42.57 | frikinz | could be yes |
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| 21:45.11 | jhutchins | frikinz: Package selection is all in the same place in the installer and comes fairly early. You can choose not to install any graphical desktop and install KDE later if you prefer. |
| 21:46.50 | Nothing4You | even if i'd just set up like 200 IPs i still think having two lines per IP in /etc/network/interfaces isn't the right solution |
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| 21:49.50 | Nothing4You | or would there be a way to create some kind of virtual interface and enable the whole subnet at once? |
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| 21:50.26 | Nothing4You | or probably a /117 part of it |
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| 21:50.37 | Nothing4You | err /118 i mean |
| 21:50.40 | abrotman | use a script to loop through them, this isn't hard |
| 21:50.51 | Nothing4You | yes i could use a script to loop them |
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| 21:51.05 | Nothing4You | but is having two lines per IP the shortest solution? |
| 21:51.30 | Nothing4You | is there no way at all to have IPs enabled as subnet with multiple IPs in it? |
| 21:51.36 | abrotman | feels like someone that can't work out how to add all the interfaces maybe shuldn't be running this type of service |
| 21:52.17 | Nothing4You | "all the interfaces"? why distribute it to different interfaces? |
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| 21:52.27 | abrotman | all the IPs |
| 21:52.42 | Nothing4You | currently i have all IPs that are enabled on the same interface |
| 21:52.51 | Nothing4You | why would i want multiple interfaces |
| 21:53.21 | Nothing4You | i'm putting everything on eth0 |
| 21:53.31 | nl287 | have anybody debian testing and tor working? |
| 21:53.43 | abrotman | nl287: you? |
| 21:54.04 | nl287 | abrotman: tor stopped working |
| 21:54.37 | abrotman | check your logs, ask #tor on irc.oftc.net |
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| 21:55.58 | GarethTheGreat | to any devs here, just want to say awesome job on the last release - i just upgraded from squeeze and it was painfully simple and had precisely 0 complications |
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| 21:56.01 | GarethTheGreat | really surprising |
| 21:57.04 | Th0masR0ss | Welcome to debian upgrades. |
| 21:57.11 | dvs | ha! |
| 21:57.54 | GarethTheGreat | heh |
| 21:58.01 | GarethTheGreat | i used to be a fedora user.... |
| 21:58.33 | dvs | !pity GarethTheGreat |
| 21:58.37 | maroloccio | hi. why does `invoke-rc.d ssh start' not start ssh as `service ssh start' does? |
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| 22:00.40 | jhutchins | maroloccio: It's intended for use in scripts, not as a start/stop tool for daily use. |
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| 22:06.13 | maroloccio | jhutchins: pls explaing what you mean by "use in scripts" |
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| 22:25.33 | jhutchins | maroloccio: It's used in the pre- and post- install scripts by dpkg. |
| 22:26.09 | jhutchins | maroloccio: As such it may expect different paths or environment variables than you have in your shell. |
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| 22:27.08 | jhutchins | maroloccio: Having used Linux since before some of these utilities were available, I just use /etc/init.d/<daemon> start|stop|restart|reload|status |
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| 22:27.50 | maroloccio | i understand. i used to do that too. debian-policy talks about the merit of invoke-rc.d though |
| 22:27.54 | maroloccio | wish i knew how to use it properly |
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| 22:28.30 | maroloccio | service is my current practice, as a "slightly better than /etc/init.d" approach |
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| 22:33.47 | DrFoo | Case fans are no longer keeping my pc cool enough. Smartmond is notifying me that my hdds are at critical temps. Does anyone know of other technology to keep the PC cool? I think liquid cooling is for pcu only. |
| 22:34.04 | DrFoo | cpu ^^ |
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| 22:34.47 | Getterac7 | So I just updated Debian from Squeeze to Wheezy and i've lost the ability to ping anything on WAN. Ping LAN works, and i can wget google's index.html, but when i try to ping it gives me "destination port unreachable" ... Anyone have ideas? |
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| 22:35.14 | nkuttler | DrFoo: more fans? slower hds? less hds cramped in a small case? put the box in a cooler room? |
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| 22:36.23 | DrFoo | It's just the weather lately has been 90+ with 70%+ humidity.... was never a prob before... |
| 22:36.27 | abrotman | Getterac7: did you pick up IPv6? |
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| 22:37.12 | Getterac7 | abrotman: it looks like i might have, i have an inet6 addr assigned. I'm using static ip/dns, how would i disable ipv6 ? |
| 22:37.13 | johnpooley | could anyone give me some help with setting up a SFTP server with a second hard drive? |
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| 22:37.32 | brontosaurusrex | DrFoo, open the cases until the weather is gone |
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| 22:38.18 | brontosaurusrex | DrFoo, also put them on the floor if possible |
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| 22:38.53 | DrFoo | already did... to both. This is brutal... I need AC. |
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| 22:39.51 | Dagger2 | Getterac7: if all your inet6 addresses say "Scope:Link" at the end, you can ignore them |
| 22:39.57 | brontosaurusrex | DrFoo, rearrange the drives so there is more space between them and yes get an AC |
| 22:40.00 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Getterac7 about noipv6 |
| 22:40.03 | Dagger2 | also you can ignore v6 for `ping` because `ping` doesn't do v6 at all |
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| 22:40.26 | Getterac7 | Dagger2: ah, it does have Scope:Link. |
| 22:40.30 | abrotman | Dagger2: what it resolves to a AAAA before an A? or does it never request a AAAA ? |
| 22:40.41 | abrotman | Getterac7: do you have any iptables loaded? |
| 22:40.48 | Dagger2 | abrotman: it never requests an AAAA (and it doesn't do v6 literals either) |
| 22:41.00 | Dagger2 | abrotman: that's all done by `ping6` (which doesn't do A/v4 literals) |
| 22:41.02 | abrotman | doesn't use ping as a test so hasn't tried this |
| 22:41.15 | Dagger2 | which is a pretty silly situation, but there you go :/ |
| 22:41.23 | abrotman | Dagger2: i know about ping6 .. ping is so flaky, so i tend it ignore it |
| 22:41.24 | Getterac7 | abrotman: a few things for using moblock |
| 22:41.41 | dskfl | i'm trying to set up openvpn on squeeze using a tun setup. The server is listening on port 1194, udp and with "server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0" option. So having generated the keys for server and client , i try to connect to it using my laptop (squeeze) and what it does it creates a tun0 interface with ip 10.8.0.6 and i can ping 10.8.0.1 that is the tun0 interface on server. Problem is when i set up "push redirect-gateway def1 " in the server |
| 22:41.41 | dskfl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.22 | xubuntu_ | i ask in ubuntu forum, not get help... i use this guide http://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/ .... and get stuck on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5853844/ Please help somebody |
| 22:42.39 | abrotman | xubuntu_: you should ask #ubuntu |
| 22:42.43 | dskfl | so it has to be a routing problem.. |
| 22:42.57 | xubuntu_ | i dont get help there :/ |
| 22:43.01 | abrotman | xubuntu_: then install Debian |
| 22:43.08 | abrotman | or ask ##linux |
| 22:43.16 | xubuntu_ | ok |
| 22:43.21 | abrotman | this channel is for Debian support, Ubuntu support belongs in #ubuntu |
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| 22:43.48 | DrFoo | I've got one fan left that I could plug into the PC, but it has a male molex on it, and I don't have any more female molex in the PC. Any ideas? |
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| 22:44.38 | Getterac7 | DrFoo: as a drastic measure you could take the hardware out of the case to give it more air.... use a box fan to blow on the parts or something. |
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| 22:45.32 | abrotman | Getterac7: can you ping your router? |
| 22:45.39 | CableNinja | Trying to install debian on my new laptop, the display gets weird when the system enters the usb stick, I cant make out any of the screen, its, scrambled like... any boot params I can put on to fix the video? I dunno what to put on there, or think about putting on there |
| 22:46.09 | abrotman | CableNinja: which installer ISO did you use? |
| 22:46.16 | DrFoo | I've powered down at the moment, but need a long term solution. I need to get a molex gender changer I need another female molex to use this fan. |
| 22:46.34 | CableNinja | abrotman: tbh, not sure |
| 22:46.36 | Getterac7 | abrotman: yes, i can ping the router, i can ping my desktop... can't ping 4.2.2.1 or any DNS outside. |
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| 22:46.57 | Getterac7 | abrotman: i can't ping my cable modem though. |
| 22:47.07 | abrotman | Getterac7: is it possible that your ISP blocked and you didn't know til now? |
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| 22:47.20 | Getterac7 | abrotman: i feel like everything was working fine a few days ago. |
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| 22:47.32 | Getterac7 | abrotman: also i can ping anything with my desktop. |
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| 22:48.15 | Getterac7 | abrotman: i disabled ipv6 support in the kernel... rebooting now. |
| 22:49.21 | CableNinja | abrotman: going through the gui setup.exe while here in windows, it gives me these default params: video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=1024 priority=low, anything I should change there? |
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| 22:49.43 | Ollusory | Hello! |
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| 22:52.12 | abrotman | CableNinja: setup.exe? |
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| 22:53.04 | CableNinja | abrotman, yes, this iso apparently had a setup.exe in it for debian, so you can start the install while still in windows (I dunno, I've never seen it until now, never had an issue getting a display from the usb stick) |
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| 22:53.25 | abrotman | you sohuld stil know which ISO it is? |
| 22:53.58 | CableNinja | I put it on this usb stick a few months ago, I just know its wheezy, its almost 2gb.. |
| 22:54.09 | CableNinja | er, like maybe 2 months ago at the most |
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| 22:54.26 | Ollusory | If I remember correctly, Ubuntu had a client like that, something you could set up in Windows and then get to reboot. |
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| 22:55.06 | abrotman | CableNinja: i would think those settings would work |
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| 22:56.40 | Getterac7 | abrotman: you had it right. I disabled ipv6 in the kernel and everything works fine! |
| 22:56.56 | abrotman | Getterac7: that's bizarre .. i agree with Dagger2 that it shouldn't have mattered |
| 22:57.14 | Getterac7 | abrotman: yeah, i have no idea why it mattered, but it did... |
| 22:57.16 | Dagger2 | does it continue working if you re-enable IPv6? |
| 22:57.29 | Getterac7 | Dagger2: is there a command i can run to re-enable it? |
| 22:57.35 | abrotman | youd have to reboot again |
| 22:57.37 | Getterac7 | bah. |
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| 22:58.07 | Getterac7 | i suppose i can reboot again... for science! |
| 22:58.15 | Dagger2 | see, this is why people attribute disabling IPv6 to fixing their problem |
| 22:58.29 | Dagger2 | they have to spend 10 minutes futzing around to figure out how, and then they reboot |
| 22:58.37 | CableNinja | abrotman, what is 'ywrap' on the bootline? |
| 22:58.39 | Dagger2 | and either the reboot or the waiting 10 minutes often fixes the problem anyway |
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| 22:59.16 | Ollusory | Dagger2: what was the issue i connected half way through the conversation |
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| 22:59.43 | abrotman | Dagger2: the alteration to enable/disable isn't that long of a thing |
| 22:59.53 | abrotman | takes a minute or two, reboot, check, change, reboot |
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| 23:00.07 | Dagger2 | Ollusory: so did I ;) only jumped in because somebody said "ipv6" |
| 23:00.32 | Getterac7 | i'm rebooting now to test... we'll know in a minute if it really was ipv6 |
| 23:00.57 | Ollusory | When I was setting up debian, it tried to use IPv6 to start with and then fell back to ipv4 |
| 23:00.59 | Getterac7 | ps: the command i ran to disable ipv6 in the kernel was: echo net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 > /etc/sysctl.d/disableipv6.conf |
| 23:01.06 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.13 | Ollusory | right now at the bottom of my window manager it says "no IPv6" |
| 23:01.23 | Honeybadger | I don't want to annoy anyone could one of you help me with a wifi driver install? |
| 23:01.33 | abrotman | Honeybadger: ask your real questoin please |
| 23:01.34 | Getterac7 | Honeybadger: don't ask to ask... just ask. |
| 23:01.46 | Dagger2 | original problem was here: [23:34:42] <Getterac7> So I just updated Debian from Squeeze to Wheezy and i've lost the ability to ping anything on WAN. Ping LAN works, and i can wget google's index.html, but when i try to ping it gives me "destination port unreachable" |
| 23:01.57 | Dagger2 | which was 25 minutes ago, not 10 :p |
| 23:02.05 | abrotman | hours ago! |
| 23:02.27 | Honeybadger | Sure, ok...how do I get an Intel 2915 to install in a laptop? |
| 23:02.34 | abrotman | Honeybadger: which OS? |
| 23:02.38 | Honeybadger | I did google and did updates. |
| 23:02.48 | Honeybadger | Backtrack r3 |
| 23:02.59 | abrotman | Honeybadger: ask their channel, we can't possibly know what that OS supports |
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| 23:03.23 | abrotman | Honeybadger: #backtrack-linux on this network, /join #backtrack-linux |
| 23:03.30 | Honeybadger | Thought it was based on Debian, the Backtrack channel is a bunch of zombies. |
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| 23:04.07 | abrotman | Honeybadger: you can install Debian if you'd like support here, or maybe ask ##linux |
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| 23:05.26 | Ollusory | I rebooted my system today, moved my laptop to my office and plugged in the ethernet so I could have another attempt at setting up my wireless, and low and behold it was already done, I just hadn't restarted since my last attempt! |
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| 23:07.00 | ex-parrot | can someone tell me what the canonical way to set LC_TIME in Debian is? (I am also running XFCE if that makes a difference) |
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| 23:07.12 | Getterac7 | abrotman, Dagger2: okay, false alarm... i'm back to having ipv6 enabled and i can still ping. I have no clue what happened. |
| 23:07.23 | Getterac7 | so just ignore me :P |
| 23:07.45 | Honeybadger | Thanks Abrotman! |
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| 23:08.36 | Honeybadger | Thanks all. |
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| 23:10.27 | abrotman | Getterac7: that's neat |
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| 23:18.01 | Getterac7 | abrotman, Dagger2: so things were working fine for a minute or two after boot, now i'm back to "destination port unreachable" ... can't ping anything on the WAN, can't use git (connection refused), etc. |
| 23:18.10 | Getterac7 | so i'm going to leave ipv6 disabled. |
| 23:18.19 | Dagger2 | Getterac7: `iptables -vnL` show anything? |
| 23:18.20 | abrotman | could it be network-manager? |
| 23:19.07 | Tenchworks | Question, is there a way to get a fresh install loading into the xfce desktop enviro to go to the bash prompt instead? that way if I need a desktop enviro I can luanch X on my own. |
| 23:19.15 | Getterac7 | Dagger2: lots of things because of peer guardian, but that was all working fine prior to upgrading. |
| 23:19.36 | Dagger2 | Getterac7: does it start working again if you drop all those things? |
| 23:19.42 | Tenchworks | I remember doing it back when squeeze came out but know clue what I did and the googles is failing me >.> |
| 23:19.58 | ex-parrot | Tenchworks: do an install without a DE, then just install xfce over top? |
| 23:20.00 | Dagger2 | -X and -P ACCEPT, or whatever the parameters for doing that were |
| 23:20.25 | ex-parrot | or potentially install the full XFCE desktop and remove lightdm, but I'm not sure if that would work as well |
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| 23:21.45 | abrotman | !tell Tenchworks about nodm |
| 23:21.56 | abrotman | Tenchworks: i think that's what youre asking? |
| 23:22.19 | Getterac7 | Dagger2: yeah, i cleared out the iptables and it works :( |
| 23:22.52 | CableNinja | abrotman: I got it figured out.... I was able to disable uefi and get my original drive working so I dont have to install fresh |
| 23:22.55 | Getterac7 | Dagger2: i guess i'll be removing pgl.. |
| 23:23.20 | CableNinja | thanks for the help abrotman |
| 23:24.26 | Getterac7 | abrotman, Dagger2: thanks for all of the help! |
| 23:24.27 | Ollusory | Tenchworks: would editing the ~/.xinitrc file so xfce doesn't run when x starts work? |
| 23:25.03 | Tenchworks | could I just make it so the system doesn't start x for me at boot? |
| 23:25.59 | dvs | Tenchworks: dpkg gave you the right answer |
| 23:26.16 | Tenchworks | alrighty then thanks |
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| 23:28.12 | Getterac7 | *facepalm* Ping worked fine for a few minutes, and we're back to "destination port unreachable" for WAN.... i can do a "service networking reload" and it fixes the problem for a few minutes. |
| 23:29.06 | Getterac7 | i'm not using network-manager... this is a headless system, no X server. |
| 23:29.21 | dvs | !blame IPv6 |
| 23:29.21 | dpkg | blames CissWit and IPv6 for all the evil in the world |
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| 23:31.10 | CissWit | hum ? |
| 23:31.25 | abrotman | Getterac7: so something else is messing with your iptables |
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| 23:33.57 | Getterac7 | abrotman: yeah, good point... pgl re-created the iptables that were causing issues. |
| 23:34.03 | Getterac7 | time to remove it. |
| 23:35.14 | abrotman | pgl? |
| 23:38.09 | Getterac7 | abrotman: peer guardian linux... firewall software for blocking bad ips. |
| 23:40.16 | abrotman | oh |
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| 23:46.57 | brainhunter | hi. can anyone can help me with mate gui? after the iwlwifi driver the keyboard and touchpad are not working in Mate. But they r working whe i shut mate down |
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