| 00:00.20 | GinTonic | mentions which problem ? |
| 00:00.28 | aegis | berarma: roger that. I saw that. I was just curious if anyone had any success overcoming this issue. I'm about ready to just buy an ATI graphics card and call it a day. |
| 00:00.47 | berarma | GinTonic: that's a lot of problems for a migration, the only thing I know is you may need to install a firmware package for your nic |
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| 00:00.51 | GinTonic | berarma:do you know what's wrong with it ? |
| 00:02.27 | GinTonic | berarma:what the name of the firmware package |
| 00:04.24 | sideup66 | think i found the problem |
| 00:04.31 | sideup66 | i need to configure the stupid driver by hand |
| 00:05.09 | berarma | GinTonic: lspci to identify the network card |
| 00:05.18 | Mike9863 | I was able to fix my audio distortion issue by using the solution here http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad Thanks |
| 00:05.21 | berarma | sideup66: I think I told you to read the README |
| 00:05.49 | sideup66 | berarma, I read this about the nvidia graphics driver as well: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#configure |
| 00:06.08 | berarma | Mike9863: this channel is for Debian support, not Ubuntu |
| 00:06.48 | berarma | that's exactly what the README I pointed you to says |
| 00:08.04 | GinTonic | lspci to identify the network card ,and then ? |
| 00:08.11 | Mike9863 | berarma: I didn't ask for Ubuntu support. I've been asking all day for support with an audio issue I've been having on Debian. It just so happened that the solution provided there worked and I was letting it be known that the issue was fixed that way. |
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| 00:09.05 | berarma | Mike9863: great, that should go to the Debian wiki then |
| 00:09.07 | sideup66 | better yet there is a program for debian called nvidia xconfig which did it automagically :) |
| 00:09.20 | sideup66 | it is in there |
| 00:09.23 | sideup66 | thats where my link goes |
| 00:09.30 | sideup66 | surprised its not updated to use that |
| 00:09.46 | GinTonic | berarma:when i manipulate net card ,it always show failed to open statefile /run/network/.....no such file ,,,, |
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| 00:09.56 | berarma | sideup66: the package installation shows a warning that you may have missed |
| 00:10.08 | berarma | GinTonic: lspci |
| 00:10.16 | sideup66 | ? |
| 00:11.00 | GinTonic | berarma:ok, after lspic ,what to do next step ? |
| 00:11.11 | berarma | look for your nic |
| 00:11.38 | MonkWitDaFunk | Hi users. When did the magic sysrq key become apart of linux? |
| 00:11.41 | sideup66 | hmm apparently it doesnt get along with it, annnnd i have desktop! |
| 00:12.05 | sideup66 | and that did it :D |
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| 00:12.16 | sideup66 | now to figure out why i cant open some things in there |
| 00:12.16 | GinTonic | and then ,do what |
| 00:12.23 | sideup66 | and then crank up resolution too oO |
| 00:12.39 | berarma | look for you firmware package where applicable |
| 00:14.24 | GinTonic | where can i find the firmware package,my net card maybe is 'tp-link RTL8139D' |
| 00:15.08 | GinTonic | berarma:you mean i need a net card driver ? |
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| 00:16.33 | berarma | it's just a guess, I don't think that card needs firmware, better go look for error messages in the logs |
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| 00:18.23 | GinTonic | how do 'modprobe' and intalling |
| 00:19.00 | sideup66 | wow that did it |
| 00:19.19 | sideup66 | somthing in my driver must have been broken because with the xserver config tool I set everything and gnome seems happy |
| 00:19.22 | sideup66 | go figure |
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| 00:22.01 | GinTonic | sideup66:how did use the xserver config tool ,how start up the tool |
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| 00:23.44 | sideup66 | when I installed it, you simply run it from shell and itll make the necessary file to make things go |
| 00:24.05 | sideup66 | the wiki command wasnt doing it for me |
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| 00:25.40 | GinTonic | sideup66:what's the tool's name ,and how run it in command |
| 00:26.17 | sideup66 | gintonic: to get it type into shell apt-get install nvidia-xconfig |
| 00:26.20 | sideup66 | and itll install |
| 00:26.26 | sideup66 | then just run nvidia-xconfig |
| 00:26.31 | marc_smith | hello. How can I add SMTP account to CONE console e-mail client? |
| 00:26.43 | sideup66 | it will complain that the nvidia config file does not exist and automaticaly create it |
| 00:27.10 | themill | sideup66: that should only be necessary if you have previously created an xorg configuration and/or you didn't do what the wiki said |
| 00:27.35 | GinTonic | o,no,i can link to internet now , |
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| 00:28.30 | sideup66 | gin, no online |
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| 00:29.49 | GinTonic | themill:i can't link to internet,ifconfig show nothing ,and when i manipulate net card it always tell this:failed to open statefile /run/network/...no such file ,,,,, ;;another problem is 'mounting local filesystems ,,,,failed |
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| 00:31.39 | sideup66 | eh, it doesnt like writing though nor running gksu :p |
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| 00:31.53 | sideup66 | because it isnt root she complains, ah well her res needs a tweak |
| 00:31.54 | sideup66 | no biggie |
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| 00:36.48 | sideup66 | i think my driver was broken and reloading it actually cleaned it up |
| 00:36.54 | sideup66 | so now all functions of gnome seem normal |
| 00:37.06 | sideup66 | and re-writing that file (it was alot more messy in squeeze) |
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| 00:44.30 | DammitJim | is there a copy command with an option to not copy certain files? |
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| 00:44.52 | DammitJim | I have multiple directories that I'm copying but don't want some files in them copied |
| 00:45.21 | rryoumaa | DammitJim: rsync |
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| 00:45.30 | DammitJim | yeah, I've used that before |
| 00:45.33 | DammitJim | makes sense |
| 00:45.35 | rryoumaa | have a nice few days reading the manual :) |
| 00:46.14 | DammitJim | yeah, I already use rsync but wasn't sure if there was a copy option |
| 00:46.23 | DammitJim | but you are right, it's the same with more options |
| 00:46.32 | rryoumaa | rsync --archive --delete --exclude ... |
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| 00:46.56 | rryoumaa | then a/ b (assuming you want idempotency) |
| 00:47.20 | DammitJim | thanks |
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| 00:47.35 | rryoumaa | (test it first) |
| 00:47.38 | DammitJim | I am using rsync -av --progress <source> <destination> --exclude *.CR2 |
| 00:47.39 | DammitJim | :) |
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| 00:51.23 | sideup66 | might as well just reload gnome core again |
| 00:51.26 | sideup66 | as it does the basic |
| 00:51.31 | sideup66 | now that I have things working |
| 00:51.40 | sideup66 | I dont need all the goodies xD |
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| 00:52.01 | Tramp | DammitJim: I'd recommend to quote the pattern |
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| 00:53.34 | venturecommunist | has anyone here seen the proposal on lists.debian.org/debian-project to do apt-donate as a crowdfunder for packages et al.? http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/06/msg00028.html |
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| 00:56.50 | abrotman | wishes the term "kickstarter" would die already |
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| 00:57.01 | Harzilein | abrotman: why? |
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| 00:57.13 | Warp4 | so everyone upgraded to 7.1 yet? |
| 00:57.14 | Derpadong | Lets do a kickstarter |
| 00:57.18 | Derpadong | lol |
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| 00:58.33 | abrotman | Harzilein: overused IMO |
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| 00:59.57 | venturecommunist | don't people want debian to skyrocket in prominence like occupy wall street did when they took in a ton of money? |
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| 01:00.31 | venturecommunist | and they did it with a centralized single intake point for donations, no information technology in the field (pen and paper, human microphone) and no structured financial data for realtime transparency |
| 01:00.44 | abrotman | venturecommunist: as pointed out, there are already methods to donate to Debian. |
| 01:00.47 | venturecommunist | so what if debian did it the right way "we have the technology. we can rebuild him" |
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| 01:01.01 | venturecommunist | abrotman: do you know anything about debian's finances? |
| 01:01.51 | abrotman | venturecommunist: they're public I believe .. |
| 01:01.59 | phix | Warp4: I have |
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| 01:02.02 | venturecommunist | abrotman: about whether donors are able to easily donate when they want to? about whether whatever central committee tasked with that is willing to take responsibility for the donations people are willing to give or whether they're recoiling in horror at the idea of taking responsibility for routing all that money to package maintainers |
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| 01:02.17 | phix | what happened to version 7.0? |
| 01:02.32 | venturecommunist | abrotman: i have no doubt they have some public web presence, i just wanted to clarify that you hadn't heard anything ever much about them other than that they exist and will accept donations |
| 01:03.03 | abrotman | venturecommunist: if you can work out how to use "apt-donate" at teh command line, you can workout how to surf a website called Google for "donate Debian" .. not rocket science |
| 01:03.18 | abrotman | phix: huh? |
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| 01:03.55 | rjsalts | you don't even need google. It's the 4th link in About on www.debian.org |
| 01:04.02 | phix | abrotman: well version 6 was squeeze, version 7.1 is wheezy, just wondering what happened to 7.0 |
| 01:04.35 | venturecommunist | abrotman: it sounds like you would rather debian took in fewer donations maybe even than it is? |
| 01:04.37 | abrotman | phix: 7.0 was the initial release of Wheezy |
| 01:04.53 | abrotman | venturecommunist: no, i'm saying it's not hard to figure out how to donate as things are |
| 01:05.13 | venturecommunist | abrotman: i'm just trying to get a sense of why there's opposition to making it more prominent and easier |
| 01:05.25 | phix | abrotman: and to your "it's not rocket science" statement, I prefer to combine "it's not rocket science" and "it's not brain surgery" together to form "it's not rocket surgery" |
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| 01:05.41 | venturecommunist | phix: there's a book with that title. author got the title from me back in the day |
| 01:05.42 | abrotman | venturecommunist: I don't see how it's easier |
| 01:05.49 | phix | abrotman: oh ok, well 7.1 seem to have came out pretty fast |
| 01:06.01 | rjsalts | venturecommunist: it's already prominent and easy |
| 01:06.01 | abrotman | phix: it did, just over the weekend though |
| 01:06.01 | phix | was there some issues in 7.0 that warranted the release? |
| 01:06.13 | abrotman | phix: check the changelog/announcement |
| 01:06.17 | venturecommunist | abrotman: if i wanted to donate 25 cents to 20 different package maintainers |
| 01:06.23 | phix | venturecommunist: nie |
| 01:06.25 | phix | nice* |
| 01:06.26 | venturecommunist | for instance---because that's what the proposed technology allows |
| 01:06.32 | phix | abrotman: oh ok |
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| 01:06.59 | rjsalts | venturecommunist: package maintainers aren't receiving the donations, they're volunteers |
| 01:07.09 | venturecommunist | rjsalts: the proposal is that they would be able to |
| 01:07.17 | venturecommunist | apt-donate [package] [amount] |
| 01:07.29 | abrotman | venturecommunist: so do that .. you don't need the proposed item to do that |
| 01:07.36 | venturecommunist | then it would scroll how the funds would be split up by default: Y/n |
| 01:07.43 | phix | which package do you maintenance again abrotman ? |
| 01:07.48 | phix | maintain even |
| 01:08.16 | Tramp | phix: http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130615 |
| 01:08.27 | abrotman | venturecommunist: there's a number of factors that are also a potential problem. What if you apt-donate to a maintainer that has been kicked from the project? or you're using an out of date distro and that package doesn't exist any more? |
| 01:08.50 | abrotman | phix: what? |
| 01:08.58 | abrotman | doesn't see how this is relevant |
| 01:09.00 | venturecommunist | abrotman: presumably apt-donate knows who's a maintainer at present yes? |
| 01:09.19 | venturecommunist | anyway that's an implementation detail |
| 01:09.23 | abrotman | venturecommunist: how? it would rely on the sources.list for the version of Debian it's installed on presumably? |
| 01:09.44 | venturecommunist | if you're opposed for reasons other than this implementation detail then i'd like to hear those reasons not the details that are presumably not insurmountable |
| 01:09.44 | abrotman | venturecommunist: anyway .. it's not really related to this channel, maybe phix would like to join you in #debian-offtopic to discuss it |
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| 01:09.56 | rjsalts | venturecommunist: where is the metadata for that? wouldn't it be easier to email the maintainer in the package manifest and say, I really like your stuff. What's your bitcoion/flattr/... address so I can make a donation? |
| 01:09.57 | abrotman | venturecommunist: i've already given some, you don't care |
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| 01:10.26 | phix | abrotman: I am just wondering what packages you maintain |
| 01:10.44 | rjsalts | venturecommunist: and then they also get the fuzzy feeling of human interaction that is probably more useful to them than most of the money you could donate |
| 01:10.48 | abrotman | venturecommunist: please move this to #debian-offtopic if you'd like to continue the conversatoion (i'll continue there if you like) |
| 01:11.19 | venturecommunist | i'm there |
| 01:11.23 | abrotman | phix: i'm not sure i udnerstand why you're asking? |
| 01:11.53 | phix | regarding venturecommunist's apt-donate questions |
| 01:12.02 | abrotman | gives up |
| 01:12.10 | phix | ok |
| 01:12.18 | phix | returns to idle |
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| 01:13.02 | abrotman | phix: the conversation moved, it's not on-topic here |
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| 01:23.36 | raSter^ | excuse me |
| 01:23.44 | raSter^ | whats the proper way in debian to add a user? |
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| 01:23.53 | raSter^ | add normal shell user |
| 01:24.04 | raSter^ | is it adduser or useradd |
| 01:24.06 | raSter^ | hmmm |
| 01:24.09 | epsilon | adduser |
| 01:24.13 | raSter^ | thanks. |
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| 01:24.31 | Mattx | hello |
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| 01:25.02 | Mattx | so I have this problem http://paste.kde.org/776546/ |
| 01:25.03 | Mattx | any idea? |
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| 01:26.07 | beepie | su -l<enter> (relogin to root) |
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| 01:26.33 | Mattx | now it works, PATH was recreated |
| 01:26.36 | Mattx | why is that beepie? |
| 01:26.46 | beepie | the output says |
| 01:26.50 | sideup66 | I have a mild question that will be quick |
| 01:26.56 | beepie | echo $PATH |
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| 01:27.26 | sideup66 | if I keep iceweasel installed on my system, will the debian repos keep things up to date for me, or is this one version it? Id like to know so if they dont, I can switch to chromium or similar |
| 01:27.53 | beepie | sideup66, the .deb from google chrome is compatible with debian |
| 01:28.04 | epsilon | Mattx: how did you change to root, that PATH was not parsed? |
| 01:28.04 | beepie | sideup66, (and so is other browsers) |
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| 01:28.32 | sideup66 | thanks beepie i know this, I just want to know if iceweasel is kept up to date by the debian maintainers or if it stays as a horribly outdated firefox (i think of squeeze at this thought) |
| 01:28.40 | dvs | dpkg: tell sideup66 about mdn |
| 01:28.42 | ImaLamer | sideup66: those are both in the debian repos |
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| 01:29.13 | sideup66 | ok |
| 01:29.19 | sideup66 | I may just go chromium honestly |
| 01:29.20 | beepie | sideup66, wheezy was released may 6.. |
| 01:29.34 | sideup66 | I meant squeeze |
| 01:29.40 | sideup66 | not wheezy, I know wheezy is up to date |
| 01:29.42 | beepie | well get updated. |
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| 01:29.55 | sideup66 | It is, im running wheezy |
| 01:29.56 | ImaLamer | sideup66: install iceweasel from backports |
| 01:29.58 | Mattix | I'm sorry, I lost the connection |
| 01:30.06 | sideup66 | ok |
| 01:30.08 | Mattix | I know what the problem is.. but why? |
| 01:30.16 | Mattix | every time I login the PATH is /usr/bin:/bin |
| 01:30.24 | Mattix | any solution to this problem so I don't have to su -l every time? |
| 01:31.09 | squisher | Mattix, how do you log in? |
| 01:31.32 | Mattix | it's a server, I do ssh root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 01:32.19 | squisher | how bash executes config files is sometimes a bit strange |
| 01:32.25 | epsilon | maybe your shell is somehow misconfigured... |
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| 01:32.51 | Mattix | so it got misconfigured all of a sudden (?) |
| 01:33.06 | raSter^ | epsilon: what are popular GUI engines for use in debian? |
| 01:33.28 | epsilon | X? |
| 01:33.34 | raSter^ | ok |
| 01:33.40 | dbbo | just installed wheezy on a PPC machine. it boots and I can SSH into it, but the screen goes black mid way through boot. framebuffer issue? |
| 01:33.42 | epsilon | .oO wtf |
| 01:34.00 | dbbo | the nouveau module is loaded too. |
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| 01:35.01 | squisher | raSter^, you're probably asking about gnome, xfce, kde, awesome, fvwm2, .... |
| 01:35.19 | raSter^ | yes lol |
| 01:35.19 | raSter^ | thats its |
| 01:35.28 | squisher | take your pick, google around, it's a lot of personal preference |
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| 01:35.59 | raSter^ | how about you squisher? |
| 01:36.15 | peterrooney | dbbo: Yes, most likely a fb issue. /join #debianppc and set your patience level to "responses in days" |
| 01:36.23 | squisher | raSter^, mixture of awesome & xfce at home, xfce on the laptop and at work |
| 01:36.31 | raSter^ | by the way its my first time going linux. is it wise enough to choose debian as my first salt? |
| 01:36.55 | squisher | raSter^, if you want to learn, then yes :) actually I feel debian has become easier to use over the years |
| 01:37.49 | epsilon | raSter^: doesnt care, everyone will break first linux installs anyway |
| 01:37.58 | raSter^ | errr |
| 01:38.27 | raSter^ | my objective is not to be like them |
| 01:38.29 | epsilon | install with default setting and play around until it's broken |
| 01:38.30 | raSter^ | lol |
| 01:38.53 | raSter^ | breaking it = learning |
| 01:38.56 | raSter^ | is that what you mean. |
| 01:39.01 | epsilon | yes |
| 01:39.04 | raSter^ | k |
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| 01:44.21 | dbbo | peterrooney: is it worth a try to blacklist nouveau? |
| 01:46.12 | austin987 | dbbo, probably, I've had issues with it hanging gdm on startup (on x86_64) though that was a while back |
| 01:46.20 | austin987 | can't hurt to try of course :) |
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| 01:47.15 | beepie | raSter^, gnome,kde,lxde,xfce |
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| 01:47.33 | beepie | raSter^, there's dedicated live images for them too |
| 01:52.45 | critter | do you know if HD can be blocked via bios password? |
| 01:53.14 | lolgnu | critter: nope |
| 01:54.09 | critter | lolgnu: so if I forgot my bios hd password all I have to do is find a way to reset it? |
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| 01:54.48 | lolgnu | critter: take out the cmos battery, press teh powerbutton twice with the cord unplugged |
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| 01:55.26 | lolgnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.53 | critter | lognu: is a lenovo laptop. It has three passwords (boot, setup, hdd). cmos battery trick only removed boot password |
| 01:56.40 | lolgnu | okat |
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| 02:02.36 | sideup66 | all good but now mediatomb is borked |
| 02:02.40 | sideup66 | getting there though! |
| 02:03.05 | squisher | critter, hdd encryption does exist, though the hdd probably has to support it |
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| 02:03.37 | squisher | software encryption is generally safer, but maybe a bit slower |
| 02:03.43 | critter | squisher, do you think it can be set up via bios interface? |
| 02:04.03 | critter | squisher, I need to disable hd bios password it was set up by mistake |
| 02:04.07 | squisher | IF your hdd actually supports it |
| 02:04.28 | squisher | bios password is something different, though on a laptop that may be a bit more difficult to remove |
| 02:04.53 | critter | squisher, I dont want to pay lenovo for it but i cant find service manual for my model |
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| 02:05.46 | squisher | critter, well, good luck... I've done this before, but it took a long time of googling to find the right procedure. And sometimes there just isn't one. |
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| 02:12.40 | critter | squisher, and is possible to disable HD password if is stored on disk? |
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| 02:16.06 | squisher | critter, hdd passwords are hard to get around AFAIK |
| 02:16.50 | critter | maybe Ill need to send my hdd to a recovery service... |
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| 02:17.22 | squisher | critter, if you accidentially set the password, then why can't you remove it? |
| 02:17.36 | squisher | or did I missunderstand something? |
| 02:18.41 | critter | squisher, because I dont know the password, i need to enter the password to disable it |
| 02:19.29 | squisher | then I hope you don't have data on there, because recovering that may be impossible |
| 02:20.24 | critter | squisher, Im talking about bios level. Data is on a lvm encrypted partition but i Know that password. The one i dont know is bios hdd password |
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| 02:23.48 | squisher | critter, stop calling it bios hdd then..... ;-) as you said there is a bios boot, bios setup, and bios hdd password -- generally when people talk about a bios password it's the boot one |
| 02:24.01 | squisher | and that has nothing to do with your hdd... |
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| 02:24.45 | critter | ok |
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| 02:37.43 | sideup66_ | does anyone know about mediatomb |
| 02:37.58 | abrotman | sideup66_: please ask a real question |
| 02:37.59 | sideup66_ | Im having a probvlem where it refuses to start on my debian 7 system |
| 02:38.19 | abrotman | sideup66_: what's the error? |
| 02:38.30 | sideup66_ | I have installed it from synaptic, and the installation went smoothly, but when I try to start the service it will come up failed |
| 02:38.41 | sideup66_ | and will not autostart at boot (no command is shown starting it) |
| 02:39.54 | abrotman | sideup66_: did you try to start it manually? |
| 02:40.23 | sideup66_ | yes if I enter into the shell as root service mediatomb start |
| 02:40.25 | sideup66_ | it fails |
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| 02:40.32 | abrotman | with what error? |
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| 02:41.09 | Nothing_Much | o |
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| 02:41.21 | sideup66_ | it just says starting upnp server: mediatomb failed |
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| 02:41.52 | dantaz | hi, is there a way to force a package downgrade in debian? |
| 02:42.01 | dantaz | xorg to be more specific |
| 02:42.02 | abrotman | sideup66_: check the logs |
| 02:42.07 | abrotman | !tell dantaz about downgrade |
| 02:42.29 | sideup66_ | ok, hang on let me find them first :o |
| 02:43.54 | dantaz | oh well, thank you. |
| 02:45.29 | dansushi | Does anyone here know why a drive would show up as sda but not show any partitions like sda1 or sda2? I tried using gparted to manually look at it, but it's not being recognized |
| 02:45.41 | sideup66_ | abrotman: I found the problem |
| 02:45.48 | sideup66_ | it wasnt reading the config file right |
| 02:45.59 | abrotman | you mean you had a bug in your config file ? |
| 02:46.11 | grimeton | dansushi: no partitions on the drive? |
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| 02:47.09 | sideup66_ | yeah its saying permission denied |
| 02:47.19 | sideup66_ | could be somthing minor, no biggie xD |
| 02:47.31 | histo | dansushi: if you wrote an iso filesystem to it or something goofy you could do that. |
| 02:47.48 | grimeton | suggests file -s /dev/sda |
| 02:48.12 | dansushi | grim4593, for some reason the partition that was there seems to have completely gone away. |
| 02:48.16 | Dewi | dansushi: could there be lvm or raid instead of a partition table on that disk? |
| 02:48.56 | dansushi | histo, i didn't do that. it's just a disk with a windows 7 install that suddenly decided to no longer work. I can't boot from it. and so I put it in my linux box for some troubleshooting |
| 02:48.59 | sideup66_ | best thing to do might be a reinstall |
| 02:49.12 | sideup66_ | just remove it totally with config files, hunt down leftovers and delete then let it reload |
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| 02:49.21 | grimeton | dansushi: run file -s /dev/sda |
| 02:49.27 | Dewi | dansushi: is it an MBR or GUID partition table? |
| 02:49.31 | sideup66_ | the system always had mediatomb, it got pulled when I had to tear the desktop environments apart for no good reason |
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| 02:49.53 | histo | dansushi: What happened in windows that it "no longer working" |
| 02:49.59 | grimeton | sideup66_: read about "--purge" in the dpkg man page |
| 02:50.06 | sideup66_ | i know about that |
| 02:50.15 | sideup66_ | i just want to double check the files is all :) |
| 02:50.41 | grimeton | dpkg -L mediathomb | while read line; do [[ -f "$line" ]] && rm "$line"; done |
| 02:50.42 | dpkg | No packages found matching mediathomb | while read line; do [[ -f "$line" ]] && rm "$line"; done |
| 02:50.43 | dansushi | grimeton, ran it, and it says "/dev/sda: no read permissions" |
| 02:50.52 | dansushi | Dewi, afaik, it's MBR |
| 02:50.55 | grimeton | dansushi: try as root again |
| 02:52.06 | dansushi | histo, it gave me a BSOD that said KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR |
| 02:52.22 | grimeton | heh |
| 02:52.24 | dansushi | grim4593, cannot read sda be cause of an input/output error |
| 02:52.42 | Dewi | dansushi: starting to sound like you have a completely failed disk |
| 02:52.45 | dansushi | (it's on another computer, so I can't copy and paste the text) |
| 02:52.46 | grimeton | dansushi: sounds like you're hitting a card reader without a card inserted or something |
| 02:53.22 | histo | dansushi: do you ahve sudo installed? |
| 02:53.27 | grimeton | dansushi: did you check dmesg to see if sda is really the device you want to use ? |
| 02:53.27 | dansushi | Dewi, yeah, i was thinking that |
| 02:53.32 | dansushi | it's an M$ Crucial 2.5 SSD if that helps |
| 02:53.44 | Dewi | dansushi: do confirm it's definitely the right disk; query its black box with smartmontools (smartctl --all /dev/sda) |
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| 02:54.01 | histo | dansushi: and lsblk or # blkid could tell you what is there |
| 02:54.10 | dansushi | grimeton, yeah, it really is sda. I'm also getting crazy erros through dmesg |
| 02:54.20 | dansushi | *that should read M4 Crucial |
| 02:54.21 | grimeton | dansushi: then it's dying i'd say |
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| 02:54.32 | grimeton | dansushi: wrong firmware? |
| 02:55.12 | histo | dansushi: use smartmontools to confirm or try a different cable. How old is the SSD? |
| 02:55.16 | dansushi | histo, it happened all of the sudden, when the machine was on, and so i already did some troubleshooting, like updating the firmware, and the problem is still there |
| 02:55.32 | dansushi | oops, that should be to grimeton, not histo |
| 02:55.39 | grimeton | dansushi: updating the firmware usually makes the data unusable |
| 02:55.41 | sideup66_ | nope |
| 02:55.45 | sideup66_ | deleted its directory |
| 02:55.46 | sideup66_ | nothing |
| 02:56.21 | dansushi | i've also plugged it into my windows machine and get a cyclic redundancy check error (which I'm guessing it's windows's version of an input/output error) |
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| 02:56.50 | grimeton | crc errors |
| 02:56.52 | dansushi | grimeton, from the instructions from Crucial's website, they say that the data should be fine |
| 02:56.53 | grimeton | hm kinda |
| 02:57.08 | grimeton | dansushi: i'd say you can drop it |
| 02:57.18 | dansushi | but independent of that, i got the same problems even before i did the firmware update |
| 02:57.21 | grimeton | dansushi: if you can reformat it, be happy - else just drop it |
| 02:57.39 | dansushi | i did a lot of troubleshooting already, and am just coming here as a last resort to see if anyone else has any other ideas that i've missed |
| 02:57.42 | Dewi | dansushi: CRC is the stamp it uses to confirm a good read |
| 02:57.55 | Dewi | so the read (or the data) is not coherent |
| 02:58.14 | grimeton | dansushi: there is one last thing that could help |
| 02:58.21 | dansushi | grimeton, yeah, i can't even format it. windows won't let me initialize the disk to be able to even format it, and linux isn't seeing it effectively |
| 02:58.22 | Dewi | bag in freezer? |
| 02:58.27 | Dewi | heh, it's not a HDD |
| 02:58.30 | grimeton | dansushi: it's called "backup" |
| 02:58.30 | dansushi | Dewi, lol, just tried it |
| 02:58.41 | dansushi | even though it was an SSD, i just thought, it couldn't hurt |
| 02:58.42 | dansushi | lol |
| 02:58.57 | grimeton | dansushi: for real: get testdisk and boot the testdisk cd then let testdisk test the disk for any kind of filesystem and partitions and see what it finds |
| 02:58.57 | Dewi | I've only tried that trick once. Didn't help |
| 02:59.33 | dansushi | i just talked to another computer repair guy friend i know and he said that he was getting CRC errors and freezing the drive fixed it long enough for him to get the data off it |
| 02:59.50 | dansushi | grimeton, testdisk, eh? |
| 02:59.54 | dansushi | i've never used that |
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| 03:00.15 | sideup66_ | this is weird |
| 03:00.17 | grimeton | dansushi: yeah |
| 03:00.20 | sideup66_ | its installing but not writing its directorie |
| 03:00.21 | sideup66_ | s |
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| 03:00.38 | grimeton | dansushi: there is even a debian package |
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| 03:01.37 | ImaLamer | dansushi: maybe you should call the crucial folks |
| 03:02.11 | sideup66_ | just did an apt-clean and autoremove to clean up after it |
| 03:02.15 | sideup66_ | but its still not working |
| 03:02.19 | grimeton | every ssd can die, but the crucial ones die a lot, don't they ? |
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| 03:03.23 | dansushi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.48 | dansushi | grimeton, i'll try with the debian package |
| 03:03.59 | grimeton | dansushi: be careful |
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| 03:04.13 | dansushi | why? |
| 03:04.30 | grimeton | dansushi: testdisk can't only "repair" broken partitions |
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| 03:04.46 | grimeton | follow these steps: |
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| 03:04.59 | grimeton | think -> read -> think again -> double check -> think about it -> press the button |
| 03:05.06 | dansushi | lol |
| 03:05.17 | dansushi | yup, those are my partitions/formating steps as well |
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| 03:06.50 | grimeton | dansushi: i'm serious about this |
| 03:07.03 | grimeton | testdisk sometimes finds old partitions that are from the last millenium |
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| 03:07.15 | grimeton | just because those blocks haven't ever been overwritten since then |
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| 03:13.50 | sideup66_ | that did it |
| 03:13.52 | sideup66_ | put my file in and changed the permissions |
| 03:14.06 | sideup66_ | i had a backup pre upgrade of scripts incase somthing borked up |
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| 03:15.54 | grimeton | sideup66_: don't get me wrong, but: when i see somebody having so much trouble with a distro and how it works there can be only one conclusion: you're doing it wrong |
| 03:17.03 | sideup66_ | grimeton: maybe, I dont understand why my upgrade path was so rocky but I got things working |
| 03:17.41 | sideup66_ | The desktop issue I looked up was a known bug, the graphics drivers from version 6 were goofy from then, and in the upgrade were cleaned out which fixed their quirkiness |
| 03:18.10 | sideup66_ | its quiet now, and dont ask me why apt decided it was a good idea to mess with a program that was working properly |
| 03:19.17 | ImaLamer | sideup66_: one worked for me, one didn't (upgrades) |
| 03:20.07 | sideup66_ | Im honestly not sure how it messed up permissions for mediatomb either as I had not modified anything as that part of my system remained unchanged and configured the way It needed to be |
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| 03:21.07 | grimeton | sideup66_: a good idea is always to backup /etc and then let the updates put there new config files in place |
| 03:21.18 | grimeton | sideup66_: when running a dist-upgrade |
| 03:21.42 | sideup66_ | gimeton: thanks for the tip, I had copied config files for mediatomb and samba scripts out as those had the most customization done |
| 03:22.00 | themill | ,i etckeeper |
| 03:22.01 | judd | Package etckeeper (admin, optional) in wheezy/i386: store /etc in git, mercurial, bzr or darcs. Version: 0.63; Size: 35.5k; Installed: 243k; Homepage: http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/etckeeper/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/etckeeper |
| 03:22.10 | sideup66_ | I also had xorg, fstab, and my sources file backed up |
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| 03:24.13 | sideup66_ | make a bugfix and noone bats an eye |
| 03:24.16 | grimeton | hm I don't think fstab changes a lot ;) |
| 03:24.22 | sideup66_ | change the version and everyone loses their minds! |
| 03:24.33 | sideup66_ | I have automounts I modified grimeton |
| 03:24.40 | sideup66_ | I have a raid 1 running for the samba shares |
| 03:24.57 | jpinx | I'm having an issue with virtualbox after doing squeeze-wheezy. It refused to configure so I aptitude purge virtualbox and started again with aptitde install virtulbox but it's still giving me an error - http://paste.debian.net/11025/ |
| 03:25.01 | grimeton | the problem with a lot of linux distros is that they touch a lot of stuff that shouldn't be touched by the distro |
| 03:25.23 | grimeton | jpinx: dpkg -l | grep virtualbox |
| 03:25.30 | sideup66_ | true |
| 03:25.35 | grimeton | jpinx: and check which packages are still installed "ii" at the beginning of the line |
| 03:25.48 | sideup66_ | im not sure why it messed up the permissions in mediatomb, i have not touched that program as all of its files are where they need to be |
| 03:25.54 | sideup66_ | and havent been modified at all |
| 03:25.55 | grimeton | jpinx: remove them, best is to purge them: dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | grep virtualbox | awk '{print $2}') |
| 03:26.02 | sideup66_ | thank god for my backup copy of its config file |
| 03:26.17 | grimeton | jpinx: then add the virtualbox repositority from virtualbox.org to your tree and install that version |
| 03:26.23 | grimeton | jpinx: it's the latest version available |
| 03:26.34 | grimeton | and be careful with purging, not that the virtual machines get deleted too |
| 03:26.56 | themill | jpinx: do you also have vbox packages from oracle installed? (or with an init script in /etc/init.d?) |
| 03:27.14 | grimeton | jpinx: read this: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads |
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| 03:27.39 | jpinx | grimeton: ok thanks - and themill not sure - will check now |
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| 03:27.57 | themill | I wouldn't suggest using the packages from virtualbox.org |
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| 03:28.20 | grimeton | themill: then don't do it |
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| 03:30.26 | SARC | I have been able to disable tty2-tty6 in /etc/default/console-setup and /etc/inittab. How can I disable tty7 (so that pressing Ctrl+F7 does nothing instead of showing a black screen)? |
| 03:30.51 | grimeton | SARC: check /etc/inittab |
| 03:30.58 | grimeton | SARC: that's the main place for tty stuff |
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| 03:31.53 | jpinx | themill: ls /etc/init.d shows nothign virtualbox-esque |
| 03:32.14 | SARC | grimeton: /etc/inittab doesn't mention tty7, only tty1-tty6. |
| 03:32.17 | grimeton | SARC: if unsure, run: lsof -n | grep tty7 |
| 03:32.17 | jpinx | but I'm getting dpkg: warning: while removing virtualbox-qt, directory '/usr/lib/virtualbox' not empty so not removed |
| 03:32.20 | themill | jpinx: nothing? I don't believe that... can you pastebin "rgrep vboxdrv /etc/init.d" |
| 03:32.44 | grimeton | SARC: possible that some log daemon keeps it open |
| 03:33.05 | grimeton | SARC: or X keeps it open for logs |
| 03:33.12 | jpinx | themill: no output for that |
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| 03:33.44 | themill | jpinx: did you purge all the virtualbox packages? |
| 03:34.05 | grimeton | jpinx: that's probably because there are some config files or something in there |
| 03:34.06 | jpinx | themill: yes all purged |
| 03:34.15 | grimeton | jpinx: check the contents of /usr/lib/virtualbox |
| 03:34.21 | themill | jpinx: ok, just try installing them then. |
| 03:34.43 | SARC | grimeton: x isnt installed either. |
| 03:34.59 | grimeton | SARC: any hits on the lsof command? |
| 03:35.48 | jpinx | grimeton: contains VBoxDD2.so.original and ....02 and ...03 |
| 03:36.07 | grimeton | jpinx: delete them by hand as root |
| 03:36.13 | jpinx | grimeton: ok |
| 03:36.26 | grimeton | jpinx: and then run dpkg -l | grep -E '^ii.*virtualbox.*' | wc -l |
| 03:37.21 | SARC | grimeton: 'lsof -n | grep tty7' yields nothing |
| 03:37.27 | grimeton | SARC: that's what i thought |
| 03:37.56 | grimeton | SARC: i have no debian system with console at hand |
| 03:38.09 | grimeton | SARC: so i can't check in detail, but check if the kernel is told to use tty7 as console |
| 03:38.14 | grimeton | maybe that solves it |
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| 03:38.37 | jpinx | themill: fwiw the previous install of virtualbox was from their repos, not .d.o |
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| 03:39.02 | themill | jpinx: yeah, and it uses slightly different names for the init scripts, which is what you saw |
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| 03:39.21 | grimeton | i'd go for the virtualbox.org version |
| 03:39.31 | grimeton | the 4.1.x versions have a lot of bugs... |
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| 03:39.39 | themill | poor quality, non-policy compliant packages? no thanks |
| 03:39.48 | grimeton | themill: blahblah |
| 03:39.55 | jpinx | themill: oki doki -- now installing fresh and it's doing the building modules for pae atm |
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| 03:40.15 | themill | grimeton: you've not been around here long enough to have spent time fixing people's systems because of the crappy things they do |
| 03:40.37 | grimeton | themill: i'm using debian since slink, which is about 1996/1997 and I've done _A LOT_ support in channels |
| 03:40.47 | grimeton | themill: i know how it is |
| 03:40.57 | themill | then you've somehow managed to miss that bit of fun. Lucky you |
| 03:41.03 | grimeton | but i also know that debian doesn't follow any standards |
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| 03:41.37 | sideup66_ | really? |
| 03:41.43 | grimeton | really |
| 03:42.00 | sideup66_ | I thought debian was standard, the reason I chose it for my server is the wide acceptance of their package system |
| 03:42.11 | sideup66_ | and the forks, meaning a large chance of integration if needbe |
| 03:42.11 | themill | I'd say [citation needed] but I don't care enough to argue and this is a support channel anyway |
| 03:42.29 | grimeton | sideup66_: ever wondered why debian packages nearly always patch the default paths in applications and daemons? |
| 03:42.34 | grimeton | sideup66_: just one point ... |
| 03:42.48 | sideup66_ | generalization? simplicity? |
| 03:42.57 | grimeton | sideup66_: no, debianization |
| 03:43.19 | grimeton | the usual unix way is to have a base system that populates /bin,/sbin,/usr/bin and /usr/sbin |
| 03:43.23 | themill | "nearly always" is blatantly untrue. |
| 03:43.31 | grimeton | and all _OPTIONAL_ packages go to /usr/local/* |
| 03:43.44 | sideup66_ | ah i see |
| 03:43.45 | themill | grimeton: no, that's not what the FHS says at all. |
| 03:43.50 | sideup66_ | its breaks original designs of the os |
| 03:44.00 | sideup66_ | of how linux was originally designed |
| 03:44.23 | sideup66_ | I have to admit though, yeah it is a pain in the arse to setup but once up I need to do very little to keep it alive |
| 03:44.53 | grimeton | themill: ... |
| 03:45.08 | jpinx | themill: virtualbox installed ok and runs from commandline but not appearing in lxde menu - any ideas ? |
| 03:45.23 | themill | jpinx: did you install the -qt package too? |
| 03:45.32 | grimeton | jpinx: just restart the wm |
| 03:45.34 | grimeton | themill: The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being overwritten when the system software is updated. It may be used for programs and data that are shareable amongst a group of hosts, but not found in /usr. |
| 03:45.47 | grimeton | themill: scroll back, read what i've written again |
| 03:45.55 | jpinx | wm restarted and I logged out and in for good measure |
| 03:46.18 | themill | grimeton: right. So the packaging system is not permitted to install things into /usr/local even if they are considered optional. |
| 03:46.19 | grimeton | jpinx: probably because the icon isn't put there |
| 03:46.26 | sideup66_ | but the standardization I thought was good |
| 03:46.31 | themill | grimeton: you were talking about "optional" not "locally compiled" |
| 03:46.40 | grimeton | themill: wrong - the packaging system should use /usr/local because the system administrator installs those packages locally |
| 03:46.48 | grimeton | themill: i know some unices and they all do it that way ... |
| 03:46.55 | themill | grimeton: please reread that FHS |
| 03:47.00 | sideup66_ | also its widespread growth of how its understructure is, means alot of projects can be crossed with different packages if needbe depeneding on user needs |
| 03:47.33 | grimeton | themill: this discussion isn't going nowhere until you stop thinking in debianized ways ... |
| 03:47.38 | mumpitze1 | sideup66_: doing that is what creates a frankendebian |
| 03:47.39 | themill | grimeton: I'm not. |
| 03:47.53 | mumpitze1 | grimeton: you are on crack and ride a hobby horse. a dead horse |
| 03:48.09 | grimeton | mumpitze1: ah thanks, i always wondered what's wrong |
| 03:48.10 | mumpitze1 | and have no clue whatsoever about FHS either |
| 03:48.19 | grimeton | ./... |
| 03:48.21 | sideup66_ | a franken debian? |
| 03:48.30 | mumpitze1 | !tell sideup66_ about frankendebian |
| 03:48.32 | sideup66_ | i thought it was handy to have that ability |
| 03:48.36 | venturecommunist | sometimes a frankendebian is more powerful |
| 03:48.37 | themill | grimeton: I think "use by the system administrator" is pretty unequivocal. But you're right, your quite unique reading of the FHS is going nowhere. Perhaps #debian should be for debian user support after all... |
| 03:48.39 | venturecommunist | like debian with conary |
| 03:48.54 | sideup66_ | i see |
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| 03:48.58 | venturecommunist | it just has bolts coming out of its neck which is okay |
| 03:49.35 | sideup66_ | I wouldnt use it widely, I primarily rely on debian for debian |
| 03:49.41 | sideup66_ | very little is from elsewhere |
| 03:49.48 | sideup66_ | all of what I had issues with was pure debian |
| 03:49.54 | mumpitze1 | thanks to the magic of dependencies, you can't do that sideup66_ |
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| 03:51.02 | sideup66_ | hm |
| 03:51.15 | sideup66_ | my main issue concerned gnome3 and nvidia, they didnt play nice |
| 03:51.33 | sideup66_ | my nvidia drivers were broken which was annoying the crap out of gnome |
| 03:51.55 | grimeton | sideup66_: yeah but that doesn't have anything todo with placing files into wrong directories |
| 03:52.00 | peterrooney | if you're going to argue "debianization", then you can look at it this way: Any valid combination of debian packages can be considered a distribution. Thus, /usr, and not /usr/local. Even if your argument were correct, it is a more powerful generalization that outperforms the old way. |
| 03:52.04 | grimeton | sideup66_: as you upgraded debian it still took the wrong places |
| 03:53.10 | grimeton | peterrooney: yeah, but "the old way" is still the standard |
| 03:53.19 | themill | no it isn't.... |
| 03:53.19 | grimeton | and when software is installed locally it belongs to /usr/local/ |
| 03:53.56 | sideup66_ | took the wrong places? |
| 03:54.40 | themill | sideup66_: just ignore grimeton. Some people think "helping" on irc means picking as many fights as possible. |
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| 03:55.05 | grimeton | sideup66_: read the FHS and get your own view ... |
| 03:55.51 | sideup66_ | themill: I always believed debian was all about customization, its the linux way, heres a pile of stuff, put it together as needed and make it do what you need it to do |
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| 03:56.02 | sideup66_ | take the core piece and make the os your own |
| 03:56.08 | themill | grimeton: you are the only person in the world who thinks that "apt-get install foo" is "the system administrator when installing software locally" and could be "safe from being overwritten when the system software" |
| 03:56.15 | grimeton | sideup66_: that's what you get with freebsd or openbsd |
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| 03:56.55 | grimeton | themill: go read the /usr/local part in the fhs |
| 03:57.02 | grimeton | they even mention to use /usr/local/etc for installers |
| 03:57.04 | themill | grimeton: umm I have. |
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| 03:57.31 | mumpitze1 | I wonder what grimeton defines as the OS and what as "Locally installed software" |
| 03:58.22 | themill | grimeton: for *local* binaries. Please, drop it. You're on your own here and all you are doing is distracting the channel. |
| 03:58.53 | grimeton | themill: yeah, and /usr/local/ needs to be backed up to reproduce a system (read the FHS) |
| 03:59.11 | grimeton | themill: they also write that the /usr/bin and /usr/sbin stuff needs to be clean so that it can be shared BETWEEN hosts |
| 03:59.17 | themill | grimeton: please stop telling me to read the FHS as if I have noe. |
| 03:59.18 | themill | t |
| 03:59.23 | grimeton | and if one host installs X and another one doesn't then this stuff doesn't belong to /usr |
| 03:59.27 | grimeton | it's all in the FHS |
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| 03:59.48 | themill | I've already asked you to drop it as have others. Please move on |
| 04:00.13 | sideup66_ | free bsd requires alchohol and the balmer peak to be reached |
| 04:00.33 | venturecommunist | if only debian had some of those foresight linux features so you could really do customization without doing rote busywork that would be just fine with me |
| 04:00.45 | venturecommunist | need that conary :-) |
| 04:03.02 | themill | jpinx: sorted now? |
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| 04:03.49 | sideup66_ | themill: I just had a rocky installation, Im not quite sure how I did anything wrong |
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| 04:04.19 | sideup66_ | Honestly im learning this os, and built a home server as an attemtp to get used to the world of linux, I figured as I use and work on it, I would slowly learn how to work with the os |
| 04:04.34 | sideup66_ | so id rather sit and curse all night as ill figure somthing new out |
| 04:04.46 | jpinx | themill: yes thanks |
| 04:04.56 | themill | good good |
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| 04:06.54 | sideup66_ | -_- it messed up my permissions in samba |
| 04:06.58 | sideup66_ | I want to cry now |
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| 04:12.22 | ImaLamer | sideup66_: you should have been prompted to keep or replace your samba conf files |
| 04:12.47 | sideup66_ | imalamer: I was and I think it did, however, I do have that backed up fortunately :) |
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| 04:17.23 | ImaLamer | i kept them |
| 04:18.11 | sideup66_ | I think I did that the first time, I didnt know what it would change, my shares are there and accounted for though |
| 04:20.44 | ImaLamer | you can view the differences with diff as you install |
| 04:22.02 | sideup66_ | i know, ive seen the prompts |
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| 05:29.59 | adh0c | Can anyone explain to me how it is that a network interface configured on the loopback device is able to communicate externally? |
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| 05:30.12 | adh0c | Is it a route or iptables thing? |
| 05:30.45 | adh0c | I'm trying to add a new IP address to /etc/network/interfaces to host an SSL authenticated site. |
| 05:31.14 | adh0c | Despite their being many other lo:XX interfaces on the same range, the address I'm adding - while pingable from the box itself once up - is not pingable from outside once up. |
| 05:31.23 | adh0c | It's driving me mad. |
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| 05:40.22 | squisher | adh0c, why would you be adding the ip to lo? |
| 05:40.32 | squisher | add it to the external interface that you want to use it on |
| 05:41.15 | adh0c | All the other interfaces on this range are done so. |
| 05:41.23 | adh0c | But truthfully, I have no idea why. |
| 05:41.43 | adh0c | Nowhere in /etc/network/interfaces is a gateway declared for this range. |
| 05:41.48 | adh0c | Which is why I'm stumped. |
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| 05:42.23 | squisher | maybe a pastebin of your interfaces would help, but I'm almost out of here for tonight anyway |
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| 05:43.02 | adh0c | Eh, I would but it's for a sensitive work machine so I'm hesitant. I could make a mockup real quick. |
| 05:43.44 | tkl | Hello, Someone here who can tell me when icedove gets 17? |
| 05:44.17 | squisher | adh0c, understandable... and the other IPs are pingable from the outside? |
| 05:44.25 | squisher | is this some kind of virtualization? |
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| 05:44.44 | adh0c | Yes, all the other lo:XX interfaces are pingable outside the box. |
| 05:45.11 | adh0c | No virtualization, just alias IPs to assign when shared customers need SSL certs. |
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| 05:47.52 | caf | adh0c: is it a problem with the packet coming in, or the response going out? |
| 05:48.15 | caf | and is the outside pinging box on the same subnet or not |
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| 05:50.57 | adh0c | squisher: here's a look at the /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/KubNhvUv |
| 05:51.15 | adh0c | caf: I'm not sure, but the outside box is on a different subnet. |
| 05:51.27 | adh0c | Though still able to ping the other lo interfaces. |
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| 05:55.33 | adh0c | This box was originally on XX.XX.128.36, and then later set up to serve a PHP5-able apache server on XX.XX.143.6 without disturbing the PHP4 users on 128.36. |
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| 05:57.30 | caf | what's the address you're adding that doesn't work? |
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| 06:08.58 | justmmt | hello ! |
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| 06:09.33 | caf | adh0c: anyway, i'm guessing that your problem is that your new address is outside the range that the router(s) on that subnet are forwarding to your box |
| 06:09.56 | justmmt | how to get the packages not upgraded ? |
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| 06:11.50 | themill | justmmt: context? |
| 06:12.04 | themill | (perhaps there's a command and full output you could pastebin?) |
| 06:13.16 | venturecommunist | quick question, is #debian-offtopic someplace someone might be able to go to advocate to organize towards big goals in the debian community or is it more of a social club where people drink on irc |
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| 06:14.01 | venturecommunist | cause it would appear if it's not for advocacy then one shouldn't really direct people to there from here when they're advocating for specific technologies |
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| 06:15.11 | smp | Hi guys, I just installed debian 7. The desktop is blank. I found out that it can be changed in the advanced settings but when i try to open it, it loads but the window does not open. Is there a particular reason for it? |
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| 06:15.59 | themill | venturecommunist: it's not for ranting for hours on end, as per /topic. Your advocacy style is also appalling and if you want to help your causes rather than hinder them, I suggest you improve that greatly. |
| 06:16.23 | dansushi | p |
| 06:16.30 | justmmt | themill: I got this message, "0 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 139 not upgraded." |
| 06:16.35 | justmmt | and I want to know those packages not upgraded. |
| 06:16.49 | themill | justmmt: "aptitude search ~U". Sounds like you need to "dist-upgrade" |
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| 06:19.22 | venturecommunist | themill: you just put me on +q for saying and i quote "<venturecommunist> i'm advocating for technologies" |
| 06:19.27 | venturecommunist | talk about dysfunctional |
| 06:19.44 | themill | venturecommunist: that's not true and you know it. Please stop now. |
| 06:19.53 | venturecommunist | half of people in here have the logs i assume |
| 06:20.05 | venturecommunist | if it's not true then why don't you just say what is true |
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| 06:23.28 | themill | venturecommunist: the channel is a wall of text from you ranting away for 5 hours solid despite several attempts to encourage you to (a) adopt a better style (in particular, don't tell people what they think or feel) and (b) offer real information about why something is good. I'm sorry you feel "cut off". One of us should have done it several hours earlier for the sanity of all concened. |
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| 06:24.38 | justmmt | themill: I got message like this: http://pastebin.com/6YEjFBvp |
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| 06:26.07 | themill | justmmt: yes? And what does "aptitude full-upgrade" (or apt-get dist-upgrade) want to do? |
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| 06:28.52 | justmmt | themill: I just want to get the name of those packages but I'm not yet ready to upgrade them X( I think apt-geet dist-upgrade will upgrade all packages not upgraded yet, |
| 06:29.28 | themill | justmmt: can you explain what you're trying to do here? |
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| 06:30.53 | justmmt | themill: I am learning to manage my debian :) |
| 06:31.27 | themill | justmmt: what are you upgrading from and to? Any reason you don't want to just run "apt-get dist-upgrade" right now? |
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| 06:34.56 | phy1729 | justmmt: you could apt-get -s dist-upgrade |
| 06:35.30 | hanibana | I want to be notified if a specific process has been stopped. Is there any mechanism in Linux to do this efficiently without polling the process status (I mean by ps etc.) ? |
| 06:35.30 | justmmt | themill: mmmmmmhh, I want to upgrade just some packages, not all :3 |
| 06:36.44 | themill | justmmt: you can aptitude upgrade $package; but you're opening yourself up for a world of fun^Wpain when you start games like that |
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| 06:38.53 | caf | hanibana: the parent process can use waitpid() to do that |
| 06:39.12 | mhall | Does anyone have some advice how you can mark a file system as mounted-upon-boot, but nonfatal if it fails? |
| 06:39.18 | justmmt | great, to upgrade one package, I used "aptitude install package00" now I get "aptitude upgrade package00" |
| 06:39.23 | mhall | I have an FS that comes from WebDAV |
| 06:39.29 | justmmt | thank you themill phy1729 |
| 06:39.53 | mhall | I'd like to opportunistically try to mount on boot, but not have the system croaking if it fails because the Intarnet decides to sux0r for a while |
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| 06:43.49 | caf | mhall: You can put "nofail" in the fourth field of fstab |
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| 06:47.56 | mhall | caf: thanks for that, accidentally fried my IRC client, but got your reply |
| 06:48.09 | mhall | caf: So, just append nofail, with the other mount options, and life is good |
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| 06:55.50 | caf | yeah, i don't specifically know how that interacts with webdav mounts but hopefully it dtrt |
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| 07:10.57 | Wizard | Hi. |
| 07:11.17 | Wizard | Does any *sane* desktop environment exist in huge Debian repos? |
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| 07:11.57 | themill | considering that's entirely subjective, only you can answer that question for yourself |
| 07:12.26 | jelly-home | Wizard: what's wrong with xfce |
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| 07:12.47 | Wizard | Well, nothing actually :P |
| 07:12.55 | jelly-home | !next |
| 07:12.56 | dpkg | rattles the #debian tip jar (http://www.debian.org/donations) |
| 07:12.58 | Wizard | I've forgotten about this. |
| 07:12.59 | Wizard | :D |
| 07:13.05 | Wizard | Thanks, jelly-home. |
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| 07:13.24 | Wizard | drops 5zł into #debian tip jar |
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| 07:25.03 | Wizard | :O |
| 07:25.17 | Wizard | No gtk3-engines-xfce in wheezy? :O |
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| 07:33.01 | me-1 | hi...how stable is software centre VS apt-get..? |
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| 07:34.46 | Wizard | me-1: Stable? What do you mean? |
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| 07:35.33 | me-1 | Wizard, I meant reliable , faster etc |
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| 07:40.14 | ChrisH | What does this named message mean? (more detailed then something failed wanted) Jun 18 00:02:06 clio4 named[2842]: error (chase DS servers) resolving org.sh/DS/IN: 194.0.1.1#53 |
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| 07:41.36 | dipra | Hello, I want to shutdown pc with one click, Is it possible? (for example an script on desktop); I know it can be done by editing sudoers file and changing `shutdown` permissions, but I've already heard in our lug that it also is available by `dbus`, I searched for dbus, couldn't find something useful, Do you know how can I shutdown computer directly by one click using D-Bus? |
| 07:41.58 | themill | ChrisH: dnssec info should be available but couldn't be found (iirc) |
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| 07:42.26 | dipra | !Debian |
| 07:42.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 07:44.37 | dipra | anything about D-bus? |
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| 07:45.26 | themill | it's probably possible.... using qdbusviewer is a good way of working things out |
| 07:46.03 | ChrisH | dipra: _I_ would create a script calling poweroff via sudo and modify sudo-config to allow that. Sounds the most straight forwar approach and is possible for any UNIXish system. |
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| 07:47.16 | dipra | ChrisH: How gnome/kde/etc can shutdown computer without password? |
| 07:47.19 | ChrisH | themill: dnssec could be... searching logs... found: Jun 18 00:02:07 clio4 named[2842]: validating @0x7f7f78982770: ns1.truste.com A: no valid signature found |
| 07:47.58 | themill | ChrisH: DS/IN is certainly dnssec. It's the "chase DS servers" I can't recall the details for |
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| 07:48.37 | ChrisH | themill: last Q: Is there anything _I_ can do on my named side to improve the situation? I assume not. |
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| 07:48.50 | themill | dunno |
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| 08:25.15 | CalimeroTeknik | kvm has -threads |
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| 08:37.11 | dipra | How gnome can shutdown computer without password? |
| 08:37.28 | Moosebro | hold down the power button. |
| 08:37.37 | themill | consolekit permits it |
| 08:37.58 | Moosebro | I just unplug my computer. |
| 08:38.16 | _niCe_ | hi, can someone explain why grub can't find /dev/sda (debian wheezy, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0aec7bb6/) |
| 08:38.36 | dipra | Moosebro: no no, my question is why it does not ask for password, when you're going to shutdown the system? |
| 08:39.08 | Moosebro | your question was dodgy. |
| 08:39.12 | zmode | dipra: themill answered you |
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| 08:39.50 | vlt | I’m trying to find a (lightweight) audio player that can playback audio files with customisable crossfades. On key press I want the next track to immediately fade in, for example, 150 ms while the currently running fades out in 750 ms. I’d prefer something that runs on CLI. Any idea? |
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| 08:40.42 | dipra | zmode: oh yes, He didn't call me so I did not his/her answer! Can I make changes into consolekit to force it for asking password all the time? |
| 08:40.57 | AbsintheSyringe | do you have to pay some kind of subscription for ksplice? |
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| 08:41.15 | AbsintheSyringe | is it a free product? (coming from Oracle, I have trouble believing this) |
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| 08:42.23 | themill | AbsintheSyringe: you're free to use ksplice but the patches to use it with either come at a cost or you generate them yourself |
| 08:42.32 | zmode | dipra: i think that you can change what the button does, but it's been too long since i last had to do anything related |
| 08:44.11 | AbsintheSyringe | themill, makes sense, tnx |
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| 08:46.20 | dipra | I want to ban my little brother to turn off the computer :P, it is my server too, a password on the power button is usefull; how? |
| 08:46.56 | zmode | dipra: don't let him use it and get some screen lock |
| 08:49.15 | ChrisH | dipra: inside gnome systems settings below energy (IIRC) you can remove all these default actions |
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| 08:49.43 | dipra | We have one computer in our home, he needs to do his homework and usually plays online games! I've disabled screen lock because of him, the problem is that he is headstrong and ... |
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| 08:50.23 | dipra | ChrisH: ok, let me check that... |
| 08:50.29 | _niCe_ | how do the apt_preferences work? i followed the debian wiki but it doesn't work some how >.< https://paste.debian.net/11058/ |
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| 08:53.07 | dipra | ChrisH: Mmmm, I haven't `energy` on system setting! do you mean "Power"? "Power" does not have any related preferences?! |
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| 08:55.19 | ChrisH | dipra: dunno. I do not have gnome at hand currently. |
| 08:56.50 | MaXim_ | vlt: DeadBeeF |
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| 08:57.37 | vlt | MaXim_: I’ll google that. Thanks |
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| 08:59.18 | ChrisH | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexspeak 0xDEADBEEF ("dead beef") ... On Sun Microsystems' Solaris, it marks freed kernel memory. |
| 09:00.40 | nevyn | I thought it was on s390 |
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| 09:01.31 | ChrisH | nevyn: if you check the page, you will find IBM mentioned, too. I never was in touch with IBM Hosts, so I reduced the line to Sun Solaris. |
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| 09:13.23 | vlt | MaXim_: Does DeadBeef run on CLI? |
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| 09:23.00 | histo | vlt: something like music on console? Not sure if it does fades though |
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| 09:24.29 | V155 | perhaps try mpd it also got clients for console for example ncmpcpp |
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| 09:24.48 | vlt | histo: I used mocp before and now discovered cmus. But can’t find crossfade settings. |
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| 09:25.19 | vlt | V155: Can I configure crossfades with mpd? |
| 09:25.59 | V155 | im not shure |
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| 09:28.02 | V155 | vlt: yes you can |
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| 09:29.36 | ksk | hey |
| 09:29.57 | idl0r | hey guys, has anything bonding related been changed in wheezy? since the upgrade to wheezy it doesn't set the primary slave anymore |
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| 09:30.30 | ksk | do i get this right: i cannot reboot a keepalived "master (or change the master state to a slave) without loosing active connections to my application? |
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| 09:32.25 | ksk | or can i, because the slave sets up the "service ip" and tcp handles that there is a small gap? |
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| 09:37.37 | iveqy | how can I see which packages that are installed on my computer? |
| 09:37.41 | iveqy | dpkg -l? |
| 09:37.41 | dpkg | Files in package iveqy-pr0n: /srv/iveqy-pr0n/iveqy.jpg |
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| 09:38.29 | V155 | iveqy: yes |
| 09:38.37 | mumpitze1 | iveqy: dpkg -l |grep ^ii |
| 09:38.57 | iveqy | okay thanks |
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| 09:39.31 | ksk | hum, it works. one can do it using ipvsadm --start-daemon $STATE |
| 09:39.43 | iveqy | how can I see which package has installed an other package? |
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| 09:40.51 | ksk | aptitude why $package |
| 09:40.57 | ksk | if you want to know why $package was installed. |
| 09:41.13 | iveqy | thanks |
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| 09:41.47 | TheElusiveTool | hey all |
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| 09:49.01 | vlt | V155: Thank you. I’ll have a look at it. |
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| 09:49.59 | V155 | vlt: no problem. its a nice music player |
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| 10:05.42 | Shtl | hello all, i have a Transend USB flash drive of 8 GB, trying to format but says drive is write protected, plz help me to format the drive |
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| 10:07.06 | CalimeroTeknik | unmount the partitions on it and you'll be fine ^^ |
| 10:09.37 | vlt | V155: Can you recommend an mpd client? |
| 10:10.11 | ksk | mpc? :D |
| 10:10.17 | Tchaikovsky | ncmpcpp |
| 10:10.48 | CalimeroTeknik | I like ario for its usability, sonata for its design |
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| 10:11.00 | vlt | Thanks |
| 10:11.01 | CalimeroTeknik | ario for features, mostly I mean |
| 10:11.12 | vlt | I’m looking for something on CLI |
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| 10:11.24 | CalimeroTeknik | →ncmpcpp indeed |
| 10:11.36 | Tchaikovsky | Yep.. |
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| 10:12.18 | CalimeroTeknik | or mocp, but that's not mpd, however quite nice. |
| 10:13.35 | vlt | CalimeroTeknik: I used mocp and it’s nice indeed. But I couldn’t find any crossfade settings. |
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| 10:21.32 | ThoMe | hiho |
| 10:21.59 | ThoMe | i have a outout like bla blub bla and many text. but i would like only inside "+------------+---------------------+-----------+" blub +------------+---------------------+-----------+ |
| 10:22.08 | ThoMe | also vom +------------+---------------------+-----------+ (first line) to "+------------+---------------------+-----------+" last line |
| 10:22.11 | ThoMe | is it posible with sed? |
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| 10:23.57 | vlt | ThoMe: I doubt anyone could understand this. |
| 10:24.04 | ThoMe | vlt: hm. |
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| 10:24.33 | ThoMe | vlt: i would like get all contet after the first "+" |
| 10:24.58 | ThoMe | content. |
| 10:25.19 | vlt | Tchaikovsky: I feel so dumb. I fail adding any audio files with ncmpc in its screen #3. What do I miss? |
| 10:25.29 | ThoMe | vlt: can you help me? |
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| 10:31.34 | V155 | vlt: perhaps your mpc settings re not correct. |
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| 10:31.45 | artej | Hi! |
| 10:31.45 | V155 | vlt: try to update your lib by pressing u |
| 10:31.48 | artej | sup! |
| 10:32.23 | artej | dear #debian I've made myself a problem |
| 10:32.39 | artej | how was xorg service called? |
| 10:32.43 | artej | capital X? |
| 10:33.12 | artej | if so then damn package manager deleted it and I need to redownload it |
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| 10:54.27 | petn-randall | ThoMe: Paste the actual text you want to tranform to http://paste.debian.net. Then explain what you want to have as the end result. |
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| 11:03.24 | sfxcc | hi how i install binutils package on lenny 5.01 |
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| 11:05.17 | ksk | sfxcc: any reason you are using lenny? |
| 11:05.26 | ksk | how about "aptitude install" |
| 11:05.29 | sfxcc | server have it i cant change it |
| 11:05.29 | ksk | !tell sfxcc about lenny |
| 11:05.42 | ksk | bot is dead :( |
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| 11:20.51 | blizzkid | Lo all. I moved a website (joomla) from host1 to host2. On the new host some characters are displaying wrong. I checked the database and the tables. Both are identical. I checked the http headers, both are identical. What am I missing? |
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| 11:22.07 | ksk | its most likely database collation. you checked it? :> |
| 11:22.13 | vlt | V155: How can I define a crossfade in mpd where the next track fades in in 150 ms and the current one fades out in 750 ms? |
| 11:22.18 | blizzkid | ksk, only twice :) |
| 11:22.35 | ksk | blizzkid: webservers/apache has a default-encoding, too iirc. |
| 11:22.40 | ksk | maybe took a look there. |
| 11:22.52 | ksk | erm, mhm |
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| 11:23.21 | ksk | its either your data is "wrong" or your webserver serves it wrong |
| 11:23.27 | ksk | cannot really think of a 3rd option |
| 11:24.08 | blizzkid | ksk, that's what I was thinking too. Problem is I don't have access to the host1 config. |
| 11:24.27 | blizzkid | maybe just try latin1 for a sec |
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| 11:26.02 | SNow | hi, which hw has the problem, cpu? http://p.defau.lt/?G3jaQ1nxGERBq94IBcNk7Q |
| 11:26.11 | blizzkid | nope, AddDefaultCharset ISO-8859-1 doesn't do it. |
| 11:26.50 | blizzkid | neither does UTF-8 |
| 11:27.26 | ksk | SNow: *filesystem* sounds like disk-issue. but hard to tell from only that |
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| 11:30.13 | sfxcc | i type make on the console and it is not found i need ito to insall some thing where i found it |
| 11:31.17 | ksk | sfxcc: if you dont know how to install software using a package manager you probably _do not_ want to compile software yourself. |
| 11:31.31 | sfxcc | how i install binutils |
| 11:31.38 | sfxcc | i need to instal other package |
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| 11:32.01 | blizzkid | ksk, any other suggestions? |
| 11:32.03 | sfxcc | i have it on a folder but i need to do make install but it says make not found |
| 11:32.11 | ksk | blizzkid: no sorry. |
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| 11:35.38 | sfxcc | how i set a env path to run make |
| 11:35.39 | sfxcc | ? |
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| 11:36.15 | V155 | press 1 there u find the help |
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| 11:36.27 | V155 | i dont know exactly how it works |
| 11:36.29 | sfxcc | 1 |
| 11:36.49 | V155 | sfxcc: srz |
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| 11:36.56 | V155 | vlt: ^ |
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| 11:54.28 | ChrisH | SNow: show the lines before. I assume this might be only outstanding io |
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| 11:59.59 | sfxcc | how do i updtae kpackage repository |
| 12:00.26 | sfxcc | im looking for binutils and lazarus but i cant find it |
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| 12:01.42 | Siebjee | Hi, does any one has seen or is familiar with performance difference between identical Dell PowerEdge M420's ? |
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| 12:09.32 | linuxuz3r | sfxcc, hi |
| 12:09.43 | sfxcc | hi |
| 12:09.53 | linuxuz3r | http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers |
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| 12:11.50 | linuxuz3r | sfxcc, did that work for you? |
| 12:12.02 | sfxcc | il looking |
| 12:12.23 | sfxcc | i did apt-ge source bintuils gcc-41 |
| 12:12.31 | sfxcc | but it syas i need some uri |
| 12:12.44 | linuxuz3r | apt-ge? |
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| 12:12.50 | linuxuz3r | apt-ge wornt work |
| 12:12.59 | linuxuz3r | wont work |
| 12:13.12 | sfxcc | apt-get |
| 12:13.26 | linuxuz3r | apt-get source binutils gcc-41 ? |
| 12:13.31 | sfxcc | the command is ok i dont knoe is the uri for the packlit |
| 12:13.39 | abrotman | packlit ? |
| 12:13.51 | sfxcc | source.lsit |
| 12:13.57 | sfxcc | list |
| 12:14.05 | abrotman | sfxcc: would you rather get help in portuguuese? |
| 12:14.11 | sfxcc | nop |
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| 12:14.28 | sfxcc | why ? |
| 12:14.44 | abrotman | just an observation |
| 12:15.09 | sfxcc | i cna read and write very good .. im anoing with my keyboard |
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| 12:15.27 | linuxuz3r | sfxcc, what does it do after apt-get source binutils gcc-41 ? |
| 12:15.37 | linuxuz3r | can you paste the error |
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| 12:15.54 | sfxcc | is in portuguese |
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| 12:16.12 | linuxuz3r | can you translate |
| 12:16.13 | sfxcc | it says ,,, u must set source uri's source.list |
| 12:16.37 | abrotman | sfxcc: so add some deb-src lines |
| 12:16.39 | sfxcc | im using leeny 5.0.1 |
| 12:16.48 | abrotman | sfxcc: please upgrade your box .. |
| 12:16.58 | Wizard | Which library should I use for reading Desktop Entries? |
| 12:16.58 | abrotman | that's so out of date |
| 12:17.00 | sfxcc | im a linux newbie how can i know |
| 12:17.09 | abrotman | !tell sfxcc about wheezy netinst |
| 12:17.10 | WinstonSmith | take it to the woods and shoot it ;-) |
| 12:17.17 | abrotman | sfxcc: if you don't have anything useful on the box, just install wheezy |
| 12:17.25 | sfxcc | i cant i installed it to be compatibel to a server i need to compile a software to |
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| 12:18.28 | linuxuz3r | you have to upgrade your source.list |
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| 12:18.40 | linuxuz3r | you may have a very old source list |
| 12:18.48 | sfxcc | i need to compile to 5.01 because of the libcrypto0.98 it doesnt have libcrypto100 so i need to do it for debian 5.0.1 lenny thats the physical server have |
| 12:19.00 | ksk | ,version mysql-server |
| 12:19.01 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1; wheezy: 5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.31+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.31+dfsg-1 |
| 12:19.08 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sfxcc about pt |
| 12:19.18 | sfxcc | does wheezy compatible with lenny |
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| 12:19.43 | linuxuz3r | ,version libcrypto |
| 12:19.44 | judd | No package named 'libcrypto' was found in i386. |
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| 12:19.58 | linuxuz3r | ,version libcrypto0.98 |
| 12:19.59 | judd | No package named 'libcrypto0.98' was found in i386. |
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| 12:20.02 | sfxcc | licrypto.so.1.0.0 |
| 12:20.22 | linuxuz3r | ,version libcrypto.so.1.0.0 |
| 12:20.24 | judd | No package named 'libcrypto.so.1.0.0' was found in i386. |
| 12:21.07 | abrotman | you can msg the bot .. |
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| 12:21.22 | abrotman | but since sfxcc isn't making sense .. probably won't get far |
| 12:21.23 | sfxcc | so i need to compile to lenny because 0.98 and i need binutils to install lazarus |
| 12:21.24 | linuxuz3r | ok |
| 12:21.56 | babilen | sfxcc: The version of Debian you are using is not supported *at all* these days and hasn't been supported for a while now. The sensible thing to do is to upgrade it to wheezy (Debian 7), but you have to upgrade to squeeze (Debian 6) first. |
| 12:22.03 | caf | ,version libssl-dev |
| 12:22.05 | judd | Package: libssl-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2; jessie: 1.0.1e-3; sid: 1.0.1e-3 |
| 12:22.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell sfxcc about lenny->squeeze |
| 12:22.10 | caf | that's the one you want for libcrypto |
| 12:22.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell sfxcc about squeeze->wheezy |
| 12:22.34 | abrotman | caf: sort of besides the point ... |
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| 12:22.40 | babilen | dpkg: tell sfxcc about squeeze release notes |
| 12:22.43 | sfxcc | i cant upgrade server because is from an enterprise... |
| 12:22.44 | babilen | dpkg: tell sfxcc about release notes |
| 12:23.03 | sfxcc | but i need to compile a program to use openssl0.98 |
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| 12:23.50 | babilen | sfxcc: Then please make whoever is responsible for that server aware that it has not been supported *at all* since 2012-02-06 and that it is about time to upgrade to a supported release. |
| 12:23.51 | abrotman | like libgcc ? |
| 12:24.11 | sfxcc | this program is running on ubunto Ok... but it says on server that cant find libcrypto.so.1.0.0 so it only have libcrypto.so.0.9.8 so i need to install the compiler there to compile eith 0.98 |
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| 12:24.59 | sfxcc | i can tell the what to do .. the y have lenny so if i wanna work i have to doi for lenny . |
| 12:25.14 | abrotman | why do they have lenny? |
| 12:25.18 | sfxcc | so im installing lenny and the compiler but it says it needs binutils |
| 12:25.24 | babilen | judd: v libssl1.0.0 |
| 12:25.25 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on i386 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2; jessie: 1.0.1e-3; sid: 1.0.1e-3 |
| 12:25.31 | sfxcc | but i cant find it on kpackage repositories |
| 12:25.34 | abrotman | binutils is a package, you don't need to compile binutils |
| 12:25.39 | abrotman | !tell sfxcc about archive |
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| 12:25.59 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sfxcc about lenny sources.list |
| 12:26.02 | sfxcc | i already got binutils.deb but it says that cant instal becuase libc6 |
| 12:26.39 | linuxuz3r | sfxcc, finish your sentences |
| 12:27.31 | ThoMe | hiho |
| 12:27.37 | sfxcc | binutils i got says it needs libc6.7 nad i have only on lenny libc6.2 so it doesnt install |
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| 12:28.04 | abrotman | sfxcc: you're doing it WRONG |
| 12:28.22 | sfxcc | yap because i only touch linux since yesterday |
| 12:28.24 | abrotman | sfxcc: you should stop, and read some of what the bot sent you |
| 12:28.30 | abrotman | sfxcc: so why are you using lenny? |
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| 12:29.04 | sfxcc | because the client enterprise have it there and they dont want to upgrade because install issues |
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| 12:29.20 | sfxcc | so if i want to earn som money i hav to do it to lenny |
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| 12:29.50 | sfxcc | there is a binutil pack for lenny? where can i find it |
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| 12:31.38 | ChrisH | sfxcc: there IS a binutils package for lenny and you will find if, if you start to read what the bot told you. |
| 12:31.52 | sfxcc | ok |
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| 12:32.55 | abrotman | fsteh bot already told you |
| 12:32.56 | abrotman | grr |
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| 12:52.27 | Droids | hey, I have the following problem, maybe someone can help me: I successfully setted up an sftp-guest-account via chroot, but now the "normal"-users cannot login via sftp anymore (only via ssh). wo could I change that? |
| 12:53.16 | jelly | Droids: where did you set up the chroot-only-account? |
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| 12:54.31 | jelly | Droids: show your sshd_config and highlight the customizations made; also: pastebin the output of a connection attempt with "sftp -vv ..." |
| 12:54.47 | Droids | jelly: in /etc/ssh/ssdh.conf |
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| 12:55.10 | Droids | sec, i'll pastebin it |
| 12:55.12 | jelly | !tell Droids about paste |
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| 12:56.48 | jelly | ,v wine-unstable |
| 12:56.49 | judd | Package: wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.5.29-1 |
| 12:56.57 | jelly | wow, that's almost uptodate |
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| 12:59.37 | Droids | jelly: here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/jiY4Ec5B |
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| 13:00.06 | Droids | btw, your "tell droids ..." cmd didn't make anything happen here (xubuntu + xchat). don't know what should have happened |
| 13:00.27 | jelly | Droids: look for a new tab opened with a private message from dpkg the bot |
| 13:00.54 | Droids | ah alright, sorry, found the tab |
| 13:01.20 | jelly | Droids: would you care to do an exact copy/paste of the config file from the server? |
| 13:01.28 | jelly | !tell Droids about nopaste |
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| 13:02.48 | sfx | linuxuz3r: |
| 13:02.54 | Droids | sure, give me a second. thanks for nopaste-info, looks pretty useful |
| 13:03.04 | sfx | open linuxuz3r |
| 13:03.28 | sfx | how i open a window to talk in private ? on webchat |
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| 13:06.45 | ChrisH | Droids: I assume you checked /var/log/auth.log on the sshd-system? |
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| 13:10.59 | linuxuz3r | can you source an archive site in your source.list? |
| 13:11.10 | Droids | jelly, ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/12B4bjQX -> full sshd.conf; http://pastebin.com/HcqsA6yc -> logout of /var/log/auth.log |
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| 13:12.32 | themill | Droids: is this actually raspbian rather than debian? |
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| 13:13.38 | winsen | Hi all |
| 13:14.28 | Droids | themill, yes, maybe I should have mention that |
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| 13:15.24 | themill | Droids: derivatives often do some odd things with their packages and we just can't support them here. (last I looked, raspbian images had some very odd ssh config) |
| 13:15.30 | WormFood | why is it, that "basic tools", like openvpn are so old in wheezy? |
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| 13:16.32 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell WormFood about sns |
| 13:17.04 | WormFood | ChrisH, it isn't about sns, it's about having it fuckin' work! |
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| 13:17.22 | themill | WormFood: thank you for volunteering to help maintain openvpn. |
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| 13:17.45 | Droids | themill: damn, so you have no clue what the problem might be? couldn't it be something debian-related (or linux-related) in general? |
| 13:18.07 | themill | Droids: please ask #raspbian |
| 13:18.17 | ChrisH | Droids: from the server side log, it looks like the client side simply drops the line. |
| 13:18.35 | Droids | oh, you have that channel. alright, I'll try there, thank you : > |
| 13:18.53 | Droids | ChrisH: What does that mean? |
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| 13:19.25 | ChrisH | Droids: I would try with a differnt client system and then go to #raspbian |
| 13:19.49 | Droids | I already tried different clients (xubuntu terminal, and windows cygwin) |
| 13:20.14 | ChrisH | Droids: you did not mention that. :) |
| 13:20.45 | Droids | Didn't know I should. I mean I didn't think its relavant. Sorry : > |
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| 13:24.06 | linuxuz3r | can you add archive.debian.net lenny main in deb source.list |
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| 13:28.38 | jelly | Droids: you have a typo in line 78 "interal-sftp" missing a n |
| 13:29.35 | Droids | jelly, are you fckn kidding me |
| 13:29.45 | Droids | ... hold on a moment |
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| 13:30.42 | jelly | .pal Droids |
| 13:30.44 | jelly | erm. |
| 13:30.50 | jelly | !pal Droids |
| 13:30.51 | dpkg | points at Droids and laughs |
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| 13:32.15 | Droids | jelly: this is so embarassing. you're right, and the fix totally made everything work |
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| 13:34.10 | jelly | Droids: happens to everyone |
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| 13:35.56 | Droids | jelly: Alright. Only thing that counts is that it works now :> Thank you very much, and also the other guys that offered help. Think I should come here more often ;) |
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| 13:36.50 | jelly | Droids: next time, please make sure to run actual debian |
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| 13:37.34 | jelly | Droids: eg. this thing can run debian armhf userspace unmodified: http://cubieboard.org/ |
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| 13:39.26 | Droids | jelly: Yeah ofc, now I know. Thx also for the link; Actually the server was my buddy's RaspberryPi, but I'll drop him a note about that |
| 13:39.53 | jelly | goes back to #cubieboard for a commision |
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| 13:47.38 | ntnd | I've seen conflicting opinions on this on the web so I'm asking here. How should I partition a 128GB drive (SSD) for my notebook? I'm probably going to encrypt my home using ecryptfs if that has some implications I'm unaware of |
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| 13:49.10 | darsie | How can I permanently set my gnome3 sound control to card0? |
| 13:49.55 | frostschutz | ntnd, I'd go for one big partition myself |
| 13:50.27 | ChrisH | allways recommends the use of LVM |
| 13:50.31 | ntnd | frostschutz: So just /root and a swapfile (no partition) ? |
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| 13:50.41 | babilen | ntnd: Just use LVM and don't use all the space in your volume group - That way you can easily enlarge filesystems later. I would probably start with 10/15/20GB for / and the rest for /home, but you might also want to consider simply using one partition for everything. |
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| 13:52.40 | ntnd | I see, I guess not using everything might increase the SSD's life span |
| 13:53.23 | frostschutz | ntnd, only if your ssd sucks |
| 13:53.35 | darsie | ntnd: The SSD spreads wear over the whole memory range, AFAIK. |
| 13:53.48 | babilen | ntnd: I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just make sure that you use "discard,relatime" as filesystem mount options |
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| 13:54.10 | ntnd | I've read Apple's controllers are pretty good so that shouldn't cause too much trouble anyway |
| 13:54.23 | babilen | ntnd: Tools such as unburden-home-dir come in handy too. |
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| 13:54.53 | ntnd | babilen: Thanks, I'll look into that |
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| 13:56.56 | ntnd | For swap, I have 8gb RAM, should I use a swapfile or a partition? |
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| 13:57.16 | ntnd | This probably only matters for hibernation |
| 13:57.27 | babilen | ntnd: Make sure that your drive actually supports TRIM before using discard |
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| 13:59.35 | frostschutz | ntnd, are you ever using 8GB RAM? if not, you may choose no swap at all. if you need swap only rarely, swap file works fine |
| 14:00.14 | ntnd | Probably not but I want to play it safe in case I need it for VMs |
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| 14:01.36 | sfxcc | babilen: i didnt need to change from lenny pro solved :9 |
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| 14:02.28 | sfxcc | linuxuzer helped me and some others :) |
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| 14:04.16 | babilen | sfxcc: You still have to change. It might be that there is a way to make it work on lenny, but using lenny is *not an option*. It simply isn't supported, is inherently insecure and just shouldn't be used. You had a lot of time to prepare for the upgrade of that server and it is way to late to start planning now. |
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| 14:05.38 | mitrax | ip addr add 192.168.1.43/24 dev eth0 label eth0:0 <= what the /24 for is that another way to specify the network mask? |
| 14:05.39 | sfxcc | babilen: i didnt have a choise i needed to so ... saing i have to change and saing i couldnt do it etc.. etc.. igning me didnt help at alll if any one dont want to help just dont dont bother the others |
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| 14:06.27 | babilen | mitrax: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing |
| 14:06.49 | babilen | mitrax: Specifically the section on notation |
| 14:06.59 | mitrax | babilen: thanks! |
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| 14:15.03 | sfxcc | why a compiled prog on debian 7 does work on debian 5? |
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| 14:15.27 | jdoles | How do I display on Squeeze how much memory a process, and its shared libraries are using (all separated out by process/shared library)? |
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| 14:15.49 | jdoles | sfxcc, depends on the program. |
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| 14:17.18 | sfxcc | i have on i added libcrypto,so and i compiled it on ubuntu 13 and works , when i run it on debian 5 is says libcrypto100 needed but i didnt ask for 100 i did libcrypto.so , why this ? |
| 14:18.33 | themill | sfxcc: I think quite a few people have had a go at explaining this to you already at this stage. Is there some other language you'd be happier seeking help in? |
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| 14:19.27 | queso | Has anyone been able to get NoMachine NX client/server .deb files to install and work correctly in Wheezy? |
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| 14:20.27 | sfxcc | i didnt understand because no one explained me ,.. try to find the text where someone explains to me please ... what you where doing anoing me to change and seing to go to pt brasilian channel happy now |
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| 14:24.32 | jelly | sfxcc: build your libs on debian 5 if you want them to run on debian 5. |
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| 14:26.16 | sfxcc | this is the question : i have on i added libcrypto,so and i compiled it on ubuntu 13 and works , when i run it on debian 5 is says libcrypto100 needed but i didnt ask for 100 i did libcrypto.so , why this ? |
| 14:26.42 | caf | because libcrypto is just a symlink to the actual version of the library |
| 14:26.55 | sfxcc | can some one help me to underwstand why it used libcripto.so.100 instead of libcrypto.so |
| 14:26.59 | caf | libraries are versioned because the ABI can change with a major version |
| 14:27.01 | babilen | and you linked against libcrypto1.0.0 |
| 14:27.04 | sfxcc | hmm |
| 14:27.05 | sfxcc | ok |
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| 14:27.19 | caf | you can't link against just "libcrypto" with no version, it always has to link against an ABI verion |
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| 14:27.28 | sfxcc | ok thanks |
| 14:27.47 | sfxcc | so lybcrypto is always point to a file with a diff name |
| 14:27.53 | caf | yes |
| 14:28.18 | sfxcc | so whne an app is compiled it go to the target and not the link name |
| 14:28.25 | jelly | !soname |
| 14:28.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, soname is a version number by shared libraries used to refer to the binary compatibility of a shared library's api. when the api changes in such a way as to potentially require code changes by clients of the library, the soname changes. also see the Debian Shared Library Packagin guide: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html#sonameapiabi |
| 14:28.58 | jelly | sfxcc: an app links, roughly, against the particular soname |
| 14:29.02 | sfxcc | thanks jelly |
| 14:29.24 | sfxcc | eays explanation |
| 14:29.27 | sfxcc | :) |
| 14:29.32 | sfxcc | easy |
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| 14:39.52 | SARC | I have been able to disable tty2-tty6 in /etc/default/console-setup and /etc/inittab. How can I disable tty7 (so that pressing Ctrl+F7 does nothing instead of showing a black screen)? |
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| 14:43.50 | queso | What is a good NX server/client solution? I've been using NoMachine's NX packages, but they aren't working for me on Wheezy. I've used x2go, but the interface is really bad. |
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| 14:46.12 | kristijonas | Hello, I'm trying to install openwebmail and getting the error: "Dependency is not satisfiable: perl-suid"... |
| 14:46.53 | jhutchins_wk | SARC: No. |
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| 14:47.20 | nkuttler | ,v openwebmail |
| 14:47.21 | judd | No package named 'openwebmail' was found in i386. |
| 14:47.32 | nkuttler | kristijonas: how do you try to install that? |
| 14:47.46 | jelly | SARC: I don't know of a way to close a virtual console once it is open (eg by starting X which defaults to tty7) |
| 14:48.19 | jelly | oh, deallocvt(1) |
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| 14:48.35 | jhutchins_wk | The black screen with the blinking cursor is what you get when there's no VTTY at that address. |
| 14:49.02 | jelly | wonders why SEE ALSO in openvt doesn't list it |
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| 14:49.06 | kristijonas | nkuttler, http://openwebmail.org/openwebmail/download/debian/ own2.53-2.deb package on gDebi Package Installer. |
| 14:49.12 | babilen | kristijonas: As the people who packaged openwebmail -- It doesn't seem to be in Debian. |
| 14:49.38 | nkuttler | kristijonas: contact their support |
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| 14:50.11 | babilen | kristijonas: It also looks as if their package is meant to be used with Debian squeeze and not wheezy. (at least squeeze is the last version that shipped a package called "perl-suid") |
| 14:50.31 | jelly | SARC: /usr/bin/deallocvt possibly |
| 14:50.48 | SARC | jelly, hutchins: FYI... X is not installed. I am running a base install of the command line only. |
| 14:51.13 | themill | SARC: that doesn't actually change the way the kernel creates VTs |
| 14:51.40 | SARC | themill: OK |
| 14:52.01 | babilen | kristijonas: You might want to consider using a supported webmail solution such as roundcube, php-horde, squirrelmail or .... |
| 14:52.03 | kristijonas | babilen, right it worked on Squeeze. Then it showed the dependency error of libmd5-perl, but then i installed libmd5-perl_0fake-1_i386.deb from http://openwebmail.org/openwebmail/download/debian/2012.02.19/ and it worked.. |
| 14:52.13 | jelly | SARC: something opened it, you could try to inspect debian's boot process to figure out the cause but I suspect it's easier to just close it |
| 14:52.27 | kristijonas | babilen: can I use roundcube with SMTP, or only IMAP? |
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| 14:52.33 | babilen | kristijonas: I have no idea what they do in their packages and I also don't support their packages. |
| 14:52.48 | jelly | kristijonas: smtp is not used to read a mailbox. |
| 14:52.51 | babilen | kristijonas: How would one use a webmail solution with SMTP? |
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| 14:53.04 | babilen | kristijonas: IOW: I don't quite understand your question |
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| 14:53.31 | nkuttler | kristijonas: such apps usually use whatever the system provides to send mails |
| 14:53.44 | kristijonas | babilen: I used openwebmail to read letters on mail server. |
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| 14:55.19 | babilen | kristijonas: Sure, but it doesn't contact the mail server via SMTP. It does probably simply provide an interface to a (locally?) running IMAP server, accesses maildirs/mboxes directly or does something over POP |
| 14:56.48 | babilen | kristijonas: See http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki for information about roundcube and don't forget to read README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/roundcube*/ (for information on how to use and setup roundcube) |
| 14:57.02 | kristijonas | right. and I run postfix, and I need a solution to read/send e-mail. |
| 14:57.15 | kristijonas | babilen: and I did setup roundcube. |
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| 14:58.07 | babilen | kristijonas: Sure, psotfix can still be used to receive/send mails, but that is not related to being able to read them or a specific method that is used to read them |
| 14:58.30 | babilen | kristijonas: So ... why are you asking about openwebmail if you already configured roundcube? |
| 14:58.58 | kristijonas | babilen: because rouncube doesn't seem to work with SMTP, only IMAP. |
| 14:59.53 | ksk | kristijonas: it a "webmail" software, im kinda sure it supports smtp - how to send a mail without it? |
| 15:00.01 | ksk | it is |
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| 15:01.11 | kristijonas | ksk: well, when I used openwebmail what I did is I just used to login to openwebmail with the same data (username and password) as I do when I turn on the computer. |
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| 15:02.59 | babilen | kristijonas: SMTP is not used to *read* mail but is about sending mails. |
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| 15:03.54 | kristijonas | babilen: what is used to STORE emails? |
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| 15:06.28 | babilen | kristijonas: Mails are typically stored in maildirs or mboxes - It really depends on how you configure your mailserver and what you use as mail delivery agent (MDA) |
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| 15:07.28 | kristijonas | babilen: by sying "how you configure your mailserver" you refer to smtp server, right? |
| 15:07.49 | babilen | kristijonas: mails are delivered to /var/mail/account_name as detailed in, for example, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s05.html.en but you can change that if you want to. That is, change it if you prefer to have it delivered to /home/accountname/Maildir |
| 15:07.56 | babilen | kristijonas: yes, exactly |
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| 15:09.08 | kristijonas | babilen: so I need a solution to read email that are stored in /var/mail |
| 15:09.30 | kristijonas | babilen: openwebmail worked perfectly. |
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| 15:11.15 | babilen | kristijonas: I know nothing about Openwebmail, but it shouldn't be too hard to install dovecot-imapd and use roundcube with that. It might also be possible to configure roundcube to access your mail directly, but I am not familiar with that. |
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| 15:15.58 | kristijonas | babilen: I dont want to use IMAP, only SMTP. |
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| 15:18.12 | ezra-s | kristijonas, imap has nothing to do with smtp |
| 15:18.31 | ezra-s | kristijonas, you may be meaning POP3 |
| 15:18.55 | mumpitze1 | ezra-s: pop3 has as much to do with smtp has imap: nothing :) |
| 15:19.01 | kristijonas | ezra-s, isnt IMAP just another way to send e-mails, just like SMTP? |
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| 15:19.06 | mumpitze1 | kristijonas: no |
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| 15:19.20 | mumpitze1 | imap is an email storage just like pop3 |
| 15:19.21 | ezra-s | mumpitze1, he says he doesn't want to use imap, so he probably means pop3 instead |
| 15:19.31 | mumpitze1 | ezra-s: no he doesn't. read the backlog |
| 15:19.36 | ezra-s | mumpitze1, lol |
| 15:19.50 | mumpitze1 | kristijonas: storage and access protocol |
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| 15:20.17 | kristijonas | so what you are saying is without POP3 or IMAP i cannot store e-mails? |
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| 15:20.39 | mumpitze1 | no I don't |
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| 15:20.45 | ImaLamer | can i3wm be configured to start xscreensaver also? (how) |
| 15:21.09 | ezra-s | kristijonas, pop3 and imap are protocols to pick up e-mail for you from a a server, if you want to read mail from your server locally you can use mutt or any other e-mail client |
| 15:21.54 | kristijonas | ezra-s, I used openwebmail to read e-mails locally, openwebmail no longer works on wheezy |
| 15:22.14 | ezra-s | note the differences between actions: SMTP sends mail, POP3, IMAP, pickup e-mail stored in a mail server (e-mails received), Email client (used to read e-mails) |
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| 15:23.09 | ezra-s | kristijonas, you can use any email client you like |
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| 15:24.23 | kristijonas | ezra-s, are u familiar with roundcubemail? |
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| 15:25.54 | ezra-s | kristijonas, nope, all I use is gmail and lotus notes lately |
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| 15:26.36 | kristijonas | ezra-s, so how to read mails locally? |
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| 15:27.30 | themill | kristijonas: there are dozens (hundreds?) of mail clients in debian. Try them until you like one. |
| 15:27.40 | ezra-s | webmail clients need some deal of configuring |
| 15:27.59 | ezra-s | kristijonas, why don't you use thunderbird or any client solution easily accesible from your distro? |
| 15:28.13 | ezra-s | I used to like mutt a lot |
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| 15:28.41 | kristijonas | ezra-s, can I use thundebird without having pop3 and imap, only smtp" |
| 15:28.42 | kristijonas | ? |
| 15:29.08 | themill | kristijonas: smtp is for sending mail not reading it. But we've covered that several times already. |
| 15:29.31 | kristijonas | themill, I want to read e-maisl LOCALLY. |
| 15:29.43 | themill | kristijonas: READING is not SENDING. |
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| 15:30.04 | kristijonas | themill, ok, openwebmail did read it. |
| 15:30.15 | kristijonas | I want an alternative for openwebmail |
| 15:30.25 | nkuttler | kristijonas: you have been told about several |
| 15:30.26 | themill | kristijonas: how do you actually receive mail? |
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| 15:30.48 | kristijonas | themill, i receive mail through smtp server, and e-mail are stored in text files. |
| 15:30.55 | kristijonas | I don't have any pop or imap. |
| 15:31.08 | themill | kristijonas: you are running your own smtp server on that machine? |
| 15:31.14 | kristijonas | themill, right. |
| 15:31.24 | themill | So absolutely any mail client in debian will work. |
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| 15:31.43 | kristijonas | themill, like what? |
| 15:31.55 | nkuttler | themill: not necessarily, some are just imap/pop clients |
| 15:31.57 | ksk | mutt, claws-mail, thunderbird... |
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| 15:32.08 | jhutchins_wk | pine |
| 15:32.11 | jelly | you can run your own imap server on localhost to use thunderbird :-| |
| 15:32.26 | kristijonas | i don't want pop or imap, i just just smtp |
| 15:32.27 | themill | nkuttler: I can't think of any that don't also support unix mailspool |
| 15:32.30 | ezra-s | kristijonas, you are mixing stuff, if your mail is already in your local machine you don't need pop3 or imap server. |
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| 15:32.36 | brotatos | `set default-path $PWD` doesn't seem to be working in tmux.conf. |
| 15:32.50 | jelly | themill: thunderbird fails to read or understand my local maildirs. |
| 15:33.05 | nkuttler | kristijonas: use mutt |
| 15:33.20 | ezra-s | I'm sure there is a nice MAIL Howto somewhere which can explain you the basics much better than us through here |
| 15:33.29 | kristijonas | nkuttler, is mutt a web interface? |
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| 15:33.41 | jordanm | i believe evolution can do maildir |
| 15:33.46 | jordanm | I know it can atleast do mbox |
| 15:33.52 | nkuttler | kristijonas: absolutely not |
| 15:33.52 | themill | kristijonas: google is a wonderful thing... |
| 15:33.57 | jhutchins_wk | The problem is getting the client to recognize whether you have mbox or maildir. |
| 15:34.14 | nkuttler | kristijonas: but really, just install something, we can't do your research for you.. |
| 15:34.19 | themill | jelly: icedove does mbox not maildir |
| 15:34.26 | jhutchins_wk | There's always mailx |
| 15:34.31 | nkuttler | kristijonas: and if you have to install an imapd, so be it |
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| 15:34.46 | kristijonas | nkuttler, I already told you that I don't want imap |
| 15:34.50 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: What desktop environment do you use? |
| 15:35.06 | kristijonas | jhutchins_wk, gnome3 |
| 15:35.11 | nkuttler | kristijonas: yeah, you want an unsupported app that never was in debian.. doesn't seem to work for you |
| 15:35.17 | themill | kristijonas: perhaps it's time to actually try some of these suggestions rather than repeating yourself all the time |
| 15:35.25 | jelly | themill: mbox needs to die! |
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| 15:35.36 | themill | jelly: tell that to mozilla. |
| 15:35.37 | nkuttler | jhutchins_wk: he wants webmail anyway |
| 15:36.03 | ezra-s | kristijonas, how can you know there is something you don't want if you don't really know what it is? |
| 15:36.36 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: You should be able to use the native Gnome mail application - I think they have cleverly renamed "gmail" to "mail". |
| 15:37.00 | jhutchins_wk | ezra-s: Not knowing what it is is an adequate reason for not wanting it. |
| 15:37.13 | jhutchins_wk | You shouldn't need pop or imap for purely local mail. |
| 15:37.14 | kristijonas | what I want is I want to read e-mails on the web interface that arrived to my machine through smtp |
| 15:37.33 | themill | kristijonas: can you explain why a web interface is important? |
| 15:37.34 | jelly | jhutchins_wk: and yet you do if you want to use thunderbird full featured |
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| 15:38.13 | kristijonas | themill, so I can just go to web interface from any computer, and read it. |
| 15:38.15 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: To do that you have to have a working webserver and a working web client, which usually involves PHP. Using a simple local mailreader would probably be all you want. |
| 15:38.16 | ezra-s | jhutchins_wk, heheh, I'm just trying to understand the logic in all this :P |
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| 15:38.44 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: I would try the gnome client and see if it's what you like. |
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| 15:38.50 | nameless` | hi |
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| 15:38.59 | nkuttler | ezra-s: he seems to think that repeating questions over and over is better than configuring a service |
| 15:39.00 | themill | kristijonas: sounds like openwebmail is a pretty poor match then. Old, unmaintained packages that rely on deprecated features of perl... lucky they don't work any more. |
| 15:39.01 | nameless` | how do i install cyrus sasl on debian ? |
| 15:39.13 | ezra-s | kristijonas, what you want to do is a basic feature with IMAP, do you know? |
| 15:39.31 | nkuttler | nameless`: apt-cache search cyrus sasl |
| 15:39.45 | kristijonas | jhutchins_wk, I do have a working webserver and roundcube.. but it's a bit different then openwebmail... |
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| 15:39.56 | themill | zomg it's different |
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| 15:40.01 | ezra-s | nkuttler, then maybe we can give all sorts of different valid answers for multiple possibilities |
| 15:40.06 | ezra-s | nkuttler, ;) |
| 15:40.13 | nkuttler | ezra-s: that's what has been going on for a while |
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| 15:40.33 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/applications/best-linux-email-client-5-reviewed-and-rated-1041236 |
| 15:40.59 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: I'm not sure how openwebmail works, but most of the webmail clients use pop or imap. |
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| 15:41.24 | ezra-s | some people like to build stuff starting from the ceiling |
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| 15:41.59 | midacts | Is there any option to sync time without using NTP? |
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| 15:42.36 | themill | midacts: ntp is the preferred way of doing this; things like rdate and ntpdate are icky at best |
| 15:42.49 | damacus | GPS |
| 15:43.02 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: There is squirrelmail, which is official debian, but requires pop/imap. aptitude search ~dwebmail will show several others that are supported. |
| 15:43.09 | midacts | themill, Gotcha. Is NTP still the way to go with VMs on vsphere? |
| 15:43.38 | jhutchins_wk | kristijonas: ...or you could just fix openwebmail... |
| 15:43.46 | themill | midacts: ah.. virtualisation things often have their own clock disciplines. I don't know what vsphere uses. |
| 15:43.55 | kristijonas | jhutchins_wk, ok, i will just try installing dovecot |
| 15:44.22 | midacts | themill, thank you for your replies, kind sir. |
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| 15:46.47 | jhutchins_wk | midacts: Current EMXI guests are much better about timekeeping than the were years ago, yes ntp is a good way to keep the clocks in sync and it doesn't break all the time like it did. |
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| 15:47.06 | folivora | Anyone familiart with apache-tomcat CONFIDENTAL, yes I know that I should go to #tomcat but since I am running Debian I will ask it in here. I have CONFIDENTAL setup for /* dir on my web.xml. I get all traffic encrypted, it does not complain about encryoption on the "root" but I go further /* -> firefox ect. says that the connection is partially encrypted. |
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| 15:47.35 | midacts | jhutchins, Awesome. I just have one host im articular that is a minute or two off that is causing problems setting up Puppet on. |
| 15:47.37 | karlpinc | I want to extend my luks partition. Any reason I can't extend the underlying partition and do a 'cryptsetup resize /dev/foo' on it? |
| 15:48.20 | jhutchins_wk | midacts: ca 2004 the guest clocks tended to drift so far they broke ntp, but we run ~50 guests with no clock problems today. |
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| 15:49.09 | karlpinc | midacts: I missed the conversation. What's the vm technology? |
| 15:49.28 | jhutchins_wk | karlpinc: vmware. |
| 15:49.35 | karlpinc | jhutchins_wk: Thanks. |
| 15:49.49 | midacts | Yes its vmware vsphre esxi hosts |
| 15:50.27 | karlpinc | (It seems the obvious way to extend a luks partition. But when it comes to messing around with encrypted data better safe than sorry.) |
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| 15:51.21 | midacts | i looked at the configuration > time configuration > properties > options to see where they are synced at, and they are pointing to our DCs. Maybe ill dig a little more on the client |
| 15:51.32 | ChrisH | midacts: none real way you want to use |
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| 15:53.39 | karlpinc | Is there a better place to ask the question? (I'm off the web at the moment.... Well, I suppose I could use links.) |
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| 15:55.39 | jhutchins_wk | karlpinc: When you originally set up an encrypted partition, the system usually overwrites it. I would think it would want to do something similar if you extended it. |
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| 15:55.54 | jhutchins_wk | karlpinc: Not sure what the extend process would be. |
| 15:56.11 | jhutchins_wk | karlpinc: There is always backup/reconfigure/restore. |
| 15:56.21 | karlpinc | jhutchins_wk: This is where I keep the backups. |
| 15:56.41 | karlpinc | jhutchins_wk: I don't think that cryptsetup overwrites.... |
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| 15:57.20 | karlpinc | jhutchins_wk: I filled the whole disk with random numbers before starting anything, so no worries there. (pseudo random) |
| 15:57.28 | jhutchins_wk | karlpinc: My only evidence is complaints from people about how long it takes. |
| 15:57.47 | karlpinc | jhutchins_wk: The installer default is to overwrite. And random numbers take forever. |
| 15:57.54 | karlpinc | It took about 2 weeks. |
| 15:58.10 | karlpinc | (I don't think the installer uses random numbers.) |
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| 15:59.39 | karlpinc | However, I did an emergency install and have a luks disk that's straight from the factory and not initialized with random numbers. I wonder what's the best way to fill the whole thing with random numbers, while still using it. Any ideas? I could just write big files and fill the disk. Sounds a bit brutal but would work. |
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| 16:01.30 | karlpinc | I've got lvm on it. I'll probably make some pvs and fill those with psudo random numbers and move the vgs around and eventually cover the whole disk. |
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| 16:02.27 | blue_sky | '-bash: less: command not found' - really?! which package provides 'less'? |
| 16:02.44 | nkuttler | blue_sky: you have one guess |
| 16:02.56 | blue_sky | nkuttler: not less than one? |
| 16:03.11 | blue_sky | hmm, what a doofus |
| 16:04.11 | Vicissitude | less is nice but bzless is cooler :) |
| 16:04.51 | karlpinc | My luks partition is gpt. If I use parted to resize it (extending it's endpoint) will parted do ugly things? (Parted makes me nervous, but I don't know what else to do with a gpt partition. Any suggestions?) |
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| 16:05.30 | frostschutz | karlpinc, overwrite free space, that should be just fine. or you could just ignore it - it's not that big an issue |
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| 16:06.08 | karlpinc | frostschutz: Everything after the luks partition is unallocated, outside of a partition. |
| 16:07.16 | karlpinc | frostschutz: parted makes me nervous because it wants to frob the partition content, resizing the fs and so forth. But of course there isn't a fs. |
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| 16:07.22 | AbsintheSyringe | anyone have experience with OVH for hosting? |
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| 16:07.48 | Vicissitude | I had a free account there before they got rid of them. It was pretty nice. |
| 16:07.49 | karlpinc | frostschutz: I don't understand what you mean by ignore it. |
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| 16:08.39 | AbsintheSyringe | I'm talking about hosting a lot of servers |
| 16:08.49 | AbsintheSyringe | and their deal sounds too good to be true |
| 16:08.57 | AbsintheSyringe | so, what's the catch :P |
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| 16:10.05 | Vicissitude | you might want to ask them that. they were very sensible in their replies to any concerns I had |
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| 16:10.47 | AbsintheSyringe | k, tnx |
| 16:11.26 | jelly | AbsintheSyringe: host half there, half on hetzner so you get at least some alive when the other half dies? :-) |
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| 16:12.35 | AbsintheSyringe | jelly, :D |
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| 16:26.30 | thyrant | I shut down a session out of SSH in the terminal while I edited a file. The file I edited was / etc/php5/cgi/php.ini and used "vi" editor. I closed down the session instead of saving .. as the result was not what I wanted. Figured I could close it and reconnect but now it only times out and I can't connect through ssh anymore. |
| 16:26.40 | thyrant | how do I fix this? |
| 16:27.20 | Bronze | thyrant: next time you login via ssh, use screen or tmux so you can re-connect to the session right where you left it |
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| 16:27.55 | Bronze | but you must starts cree/tmux rights wasy, you cant reconnect to a session that was not started under screen/tmux |
| 16:28.04 | Bronze | s/cree/screen |
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| 16:28.41 | Bronze | thyrant: right now the best you can do is see if there is a vi recovery/swap file available |
| 16:28.55 | peterrooney | Eventually everyone joins the fight between tmux or screen. |
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| 16:29.20 | Bronze | I remain neutral. I have no gender pref,, er multiple access preference... |
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| 16:29.30 | Bronze | :-D |
| 16:29.31 | thyrant | I still have file access, where is it located? |
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| 16:30.01 | Bronze | usually in the dir you were editin. read how to use vi -r in the vi man page |
| 16:30.11 | Bronze | *editing |
| 16:30.19 | blizzkid | Lo all. I installed 6.0.7 with sendmail, but I have nothing in /var/log/mail.* What's wrong? |
| 16:30.26 | thyrant | I should have used nano, this would not be an issue then? |
| 16:30.38 | Bronze | blizzkid: no one likes you and your not geting any email? |
| 16:30.52 | Bronze | thyrant: would still be an issue. |
| 16:31.07 | blizzkid | Bronze: very funny, there should be entries when *sending* mail, no? |
| 16:31.15 | thyrant | .php.ini.swp, found it |
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| 16:31.32 | Bronze | blizzkid: if logging is turned on and *if*( sendmail is running |
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| 16:32.05 | grothendieck | blizzkid: sent messages typically go in a ~/sent file, and logs are usually in /var/log/maillog |
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| 16:32.18 | Bronze | blizzkid: logging is almost always on. is sendmail running? |
| 16:32.32 | blizzkid | Bronze: grothendieck there's no maillog |
| 16:32.33 | thyrant | so do I delete the file, or? |
| 16:32.49 | Bronze | thyrant: read the man page on using the -r option |
| 16:32.58 | Bronze | do not delete the file |
| 16:33.10 | blizzkid | Bronze: since mails arrive at my end, the sendmail part as such is ok, it's just the logging that goes wrong |
| 16:33.14 | grothendieck | blizzkid: what MTA are you using? exim4? |
| 16:33.21 | blizzkid | grothendieck: yep |
| 16:33.33 | Bronze | blinks |
| 16:33.52 | grothendieck | http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-log_files.html |
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| 16:34.22 | blizzkid | grothendieck: let me have a quick look |
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| 16:36.29 | grothendieck | the exim config should contain directives for where the logfiles are and what gets written to them |
| 16:37.38 | blizzkid | grothendieck: hmm, isn't that for receiving rather than sending? (never used exam before) |
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| 16:37.46 | grothendieck | you can run 'exim -bP' to dump the config to stdout, probably you will want to pipe it to 'less' and/or 'grep' or something |
| 16:37.52 | kristijonas | hello, can I ask a question about dovecot? |
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| 16:38.42 | blizzkid | grothendieck: I have log_file_path = /var/log/exim4/%slog, |
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| 16:39.20 | blizzkid | in /var/log/exim4 I have only mainlog. That's pretty much empty apart from some "Frozen" |
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| 16:40.28 | thyrant | I am in again.. I really need to read up on this. Starting using debian today after three years of ubuntu server |
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| 16:43.27 | grothendieck | blizzkid: that's normal, next patient |
| 16:43.32 | grothendieck | kristijonas: don't ask to ask a question |
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| 16:44.25 | blizzkid | grothendieck: hmmm. Not happy with the answer. I want to see in a log whether a message is delivered or not. Is that a (bad) postfix habit? |
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| 16:44.46 | grothendieck | blizzkid: IIRC exim does log such things by default |
| 16:44.56 | thyrant | Bronze: Thanks :) |
| 16:45.02 | blizzkid | grothendieck: apparently not |
| 16:45.06 | grothendieck | not sure what your config is like or if you've got other software getting in the way |
| 16:45.48 | chipotle | what's the best video screen capture program for kde or gnome? |
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| 16:46.06 | grothendieck | blizzkid: this might be helpful to make sure your config is correct, since configuring exim is notoriously painful http://rute.2038bug.com/node33.html.gz |
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| 16:46.17 | kristijonas | grothendieck, i just installed dovecot, but i cannot login with it using user servername other than localhost (even I login in from localhost, but specify something like 127.0.0.1, or other domain name that is supposed to open localhost). |
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| 16:49.40 | grothendieck | kristijonas: http://wiki.dovecot.org/TestInstallation |
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| 16:49.54 | grothendieck | see the section "checking that it's allowing remote logins" |
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| 16:51.10 | independentinfo | Hello few days ago I downloaded the wheezy-iso for lxde and as I finished the installation I 1. had Gnome installed and 2. no Internet repositories were included in the sources.list . Anyway I was not very vigilant in the installation process, but is that normal? |
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| 16:55.55 | amboss | Hi, all. I've got Dropbear and cryptsetup on the initramfs for an encrypted session but '/lib/cryptsetup/passfifo' doesn't seem to exist when booted, and echo-ing my password into it (with or without '-n') doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 16:56.09 | amboss | I was wondering if anyone could help with this. |
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| 16:56.27 | amboss | The cryptsetup binary does exist on the initramfs, as does '/lib/cryptsetup' and '/lib/cryptsetup/askpass'. |
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| 16:57.02 | kristijonas | grothendieck, yes, the test is successful, but i still can't connect to it from roundcube |
| 16:57.45 | grothendieck | then I wager the problem is with roundcube and not dovecot |
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| 17:15.18 | krofna | When I debug programs with GUI my X server *always* freezes. How do I make it not freeze? :/ |
| 17:15.56 | independentinfo | krofna: Did you checked the logs? |
| 17:16.10 | krofna | independentinfo: What logs? :P |
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| 17:17.04 | independentinfo | krofna: XServer logs? |
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| 17:17.40 | krofna | /var/log/Xorg* doesnt show anything suspicious. In fact, they're all same. |
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| 17:18.25 | independentinfo | hmm... is there maybe somethine like a "more verbose" logging function? |
| 17:19.26 | krofna | idk |
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| 17:27.45 | Pingu | Hey guys |
| 17:27.57 | `MArceLL` | hey |
| 17:28.02 | `MArceLL` | what does exim -bpc, exim -bp and exim -qf do? |
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| 17:28.21 | Pingu | just installed wheezy and it came with Gnome 3 I hate it, if I install mate will it fuck anything up? |
| 17:28.23 | elisa87 | in which step should I do the mkfs? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5776124/ |
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| 17:34.00 | kristijonas | hello, where do I find dovecot logs? |
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| 17:34.47 | studious | <kristijonas> /var/log ? |
| 17:35.12 | studious | kristijonas: try locate / | grep dovecot |
| 17:35.19 | nivio | i have an old lenny box, can i upgrade directly to wheezy or do i need to go through squeeze? |
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| 17:35.45 | studious | nivio: you should be able to do apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 17:36.22 | studious | it will give you a warning of any dependency issues or conflicts |
| 17:36.30 | studious | before you do the dist upgrade |
| 17:36.47 | kristijonas | studious, " locate / | grep dovecot" ? |
| 17:36.57 | studious | yup |
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| 17:37.14 | kristijonas | studious, didn't return anything |
| 17:37.38 | studious | type "whereis dovecot" |
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| 17:38.24 | peterrooney | `MArceLL`: man exim | egrep -A10 -- '-(bpc?|qm) ' should provide a strong hint. |
| 17:38.26 | kristijonas | dovecot: /usr/sbin/dovecot /etc/dovecot /usr/lib/dovecot /usr/share/dovecot /usr/share/man/man1/dovecot.1.gz |
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| 17:38.52 | studious | if you installed in default directory, it should be in /var/log/dovecot/ |
| 17:39.04 | studious | try to chdir into that location |
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| 17:39.54 | peterrooney | kristijonas: I can't think of any package that doesn't log in or somewhere under /var/log |
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| 17:40.10 | independentinfo | ha |
| 17:40.19 | kristijonas | studious, i'm using nautilus in root. |
| 17:40.21 | peterrooney | kristijonas: well, not without administrator intervention. |
| 17:41.04 | studious | ok then use the gui to click into that directory |
| 17:41.26 | studious | if not, then maybe dovecot conf file settings need to be modified to enable logging |
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| 17:44.02 | nivio | thanks :) |
| 17:44.26 | ilikenwf | <3 mozilla https://optin.stopwatching.us/ |
| 17:44.40 | Section58 | seenn that |
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| 17:44.48 | `MArceLL` | peterrooney thx :) |
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| 17:45.56 | kristijonas | studious, all config files are commented out with "#' |
| 17:46.17 | nonameerin | hey peeps i seem to of lost support for vfat filesystems, i attempted to reboot and the like but no working |
| 17:46.33 | nonameerin | its the mounting which i cannot do not the mkfs.vfat |
| 17:46.42 | Section58 | ilikenwf, you know something funny, signing that thing just gives them a name to an email :) |
| 17:47.31 | kristijonas | studious, #log_path = syslog |
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| 17:48.20 | ilikenwf | Section58: yes; however mozilla and the eff are far more trustworthy than google |
| 17:48.29 | ilikenwf | or the fracking NSA |
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| 17:49.09 | AimHere | NSA is pretty trustworthy. They'll listen to everything you do and not tell you anything at all, but might tell the rest of the government |
| 17:49.21 | AimHere | You can count on them 100% of that |
| 17:49.23 | independentinfo | Google is the main sponsor of Mozilla |
| 17:49.23 | AimHere | *for |
| 17:49.30 | Section58 | yeah er.. the uk version of the nsa has been splitting the interent and listening to everything we push |
| 17:49.41 | Section58 | this prism thing wasn't really shocking news |
| 17:49.54 | Section58 | they have been doing it for like 50 years |
| 17:49.54 | AimHere | Yeah. The UK version of the NSA has invited the NSA into Menwith Hill and plugged them into our phone system too |
| 17:49.55 | nonameerin | this is my error peeps mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat' |
| 17:49.57 | ilikenwf | google's money to the moz foundation is only because of ad/search revenue |
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| 17:50.10 | AimHere | That way we don't get no Parliamentary oversight into what they're up to |
| 17:50.22 | ilikenwf | otherwise google is competing with firefox, so they actually have more interest in seeing mozilla fail |
| 17:50.23 | independentinfo | ilikenwf: the standard search engime of firefox is google |
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| 17:50.28 | ilikenwf | same with firefoxos |
| 17:50.37 | ilikenwf | independentinfo: it's all about the money there, though |
| 17:50.49 | independentinfo | ilikenwf: money and influence |
| 17:50.50 | Section58 | yes, they are only nice with firefox to keep up aprences, but secretly they want them to go bankrypt |
| 17:50.51 | ilikenwf | and mozilla doesn't really collect much personal info unless you use sync, and even then that's encrypted |
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| 17:51.58 | studious | kristijonas: create the directory /var/log/dovecot and then explicitly set that in the conf file |
| 17:52.20 | studious | so in terminal or bash, type "mkdir /var/log/dovecot " |
| 17:52.35 | studious | then set the permissions to the uid |
| 17:54.06 | kristijonas | studious, what is uid? |
| 17:54.41 | studious | which user is dovecot running as? |
| 17:54.47 | studious | it is a root level daemon? |
| 17:54.55 | studious | or a specific user account running the process? |
| 17:55.16 | studious | if your not sure, then leave it default, should be fine. |
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| 17:56.49 | pagios | hello |
| 17:57.00 | pagios | 0.0.0.0:724 0.0.0.0:* , 760 49937 port numbers |
| 17:57.05 | pagios | what do these ports run |
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| 18:00.14 | mumpitze1 | pagios: as root: netstat -anp |grep 724 and you know |
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| 18:00.35 | pagios | rpcbind |
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| 18:00.49 | mumpitze1 | now you know |
| 18:00.56 | pagios | :D |
| 18:00.57 | pagios | sexy |
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| 18:02.17 | pagios | this statd eats up like 10 ports |
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| 18:03.23 | acu | OK, I got a problem, I installed debian it seem that the uefi bios does not see the installation - did I need to do anything for uefi bios ? |
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| 18:22.56 | wcwrel | how do i login via private key? |
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| 18:23.45 | jelly-home | wcwrel: if everything is set up, just ssh to the correct username and hostname |
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| 18:24.03 | wcwrel | how do i set it up correclty jelly |
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| 18:24.53 | jelly-home | wcwrel: http://wiki.debian.org/SSH#Using_shared_keys |
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| 18:25.20 | Grizzly | Hello |
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| 18:25.43 | Grizzly | Would anyone like to assist me in pm to setupa a host to a debian vps? |
| 18:25.53 | jelly-home | wcwrel: I'm assuming you have a Debian client and some sort of a unix or linux server. |
| 18:26.04 | wcwrel | no i have a windows client |
| 18:26.09 | wcwrel | with git bash installed |
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| 18:26.33 | jelly-home | wcwrel: how exactly did you install git and bash, using cygwin or some other way? |
| 18:26.50 | wcwrel | i just downloaded it , it is an option in the installer |
| 18:27.02 | jelly-home | wcwrel: where exactly did you download it from? |
| 18:27.28 | wcwrel | the git website |
| 18:27.33 | jelly-home | sigh |
| 18:27.33 | wcwrel | why? |
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| 18:27.45 | wcwrel | sigh what |
| 18:27.57 | jelly-home | because I can't help if I don't know which ssh client is used |
| 18:28.06 | wcwrel | its just openssh |
| 18:28.17 | wcwrel | it comes intstalled with the git bash shell |
| 18:28.27 | wcwrel | i tried to use ssh-copy-id but it didn't work |
| 18:28.49 | jelly-home | bash is not a "git shell", bash is a unix shell that runs in some sort of unix-line environment |
| 18:29.05 | jelly-home | wcwrel: you want to do the ssh-keygen thing first |
| 18:29.11 | wcwrel | i know jelly i already did that |
| 18:29.40 | jelly-home | wcwrel: can you pastebin the output of "env" in your bash? |
| 18:30.13 | wcwrel | i have my id_rsa |
| 18:30.22 | wcwrel | i just need to copy it over to the linux box |
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| 18:30.51 | wcwrel | id_rsa.pub |
| 18:30.56 | jelly-home | wcwrel: id_rsa.pub is to be copied. id_rsa must not leave your machine |
| 18:31.17 | wcwrel | ok how do i copy a file over using ssh |
| 18:31.23 | wcwrel | and where do i copy it to? |
| 18:31.31 | jelly-home | wcwrel: how does ssh-copy-id fail? |
| 18:31.37 | wcwrel | it doesnt exist |
| 18:31.49 | wcwrel | command not found |
| 18:31.58 | wcwrel | i'm copying from client to server, right? |
| 18:32.14 | jelly-home | wcwrel: yes. you can use scp. |
| 18:32.54 | jelly-home | copy id_rsa.pub to the server, login to the server with password, and add the contents of id_rsa.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server. |
| 18:32.57 | wcwrel | ok i got it on my machine |
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| 18:33.29 | jelly-home | if ~/.ssh/authorized_keys does not exist on the server yet, you can just cp id_rsa.pub ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 18:33.45 | wcwrel | which home directory |
| 18:33.47 | wcwrel | root? |
| 18:33.58 | jelly-home | the user you're logging in to |
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| 18:34.55 | jelly-home | (it's often a good idea to avoid logging in as root directly) |
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| 18:35.25 | wcwrel | i added it to root and to user 'jim' |
| 18:35.30 | elisa87 | somebody please tell me in which step I should do the mkfs.ext2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5776124/ thanks a lot |
| 18:36.09 | wcwrel | sweet it works |
| 18:36.14 | wcwrel | thanks jelly-home |
| 18:36.26 | jelly-home | you're welcome! |
| 18:37.05 | acu | hey guys - I want to make a efi installation - I have a hdd, thought to make a Volume GROUP root and two LV / and swap, however, first when I create the VG one mb is extra at the beginning of the hard disk, is that impeding the booting ? |
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| 18:37.53 | acu | second: the EFI option means I have to create a /boot 100 MB and use it as EFI ? -should that be straight on HDD or can be a LV ? |
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| 18:39.31 | wcwrel | how do i get colors and short commands like 'll' inside all of my shell accounts? |
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| 18:43.08 | acu | sorry, I do not know why I am disconected so often |
| 18:43.18 | acu | did I get any suggestions about EFI ? |
| 18:43.58 | sh_t | hey folks. I'm trying to create a package with checkinstall that I can use on a few identical debian servers. I've added a few extra lines into my Makefile/install area to create some directories in addition to some similar commands already there (mkdir -p). When I checkinstall on the server that I'm creating the package on (in the source tree) everything in my Makefile is done correctly. When |
| 18:43.58 | sh_t | I copy the package to another server, only some of these commands are actually ran. I've tried --fstrans=no to no avail. any ideas what might cause this? |
| 18:45.27 | sh_t | to clarify.. when I install the package on another server, not all commands under the install portion of the Makefile are run. Is this because checkinstall is not catching them with the watch utility when it's being created? seems very odd |
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| 18:49.21 | Naphatul | i did a minimal install and installed urxvt, i'm setting it as default by adding TERM=urxvt in ~/.bashrc, but when i try to launch nano for example i get "Error opening terminal" |
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| 18:49.27 | wcwrel | I'm trying to use SFTP to connect to my debian box but it isn't working |
| 18:49.29 | Naphatul | what's the issue? |
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| 18:50.33 | jelly-home | wcwrel: using the standard sftp client, how does it fail? |
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| 18:50.55 | wcwrel | SFTP] Error initialising sftp: Access denied. Authentication that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive |
| 18:50.55 | wcwrel | Unable to connect |
| 18:50.55 | wcwrel | Disconnected |
| 18:51.28 | jelly-home | wcwrel: pastebin the output of sftp -v username@servername, please |
| 18:53.01 | wcwrel | sftp: command not found |
| 18:53.02 | wcwrel | lol |
| 18:53.09 | wcwrel | didnt come with git bash |
| 18:53.11 | jelly-home | really? |
| 18:53.17 | wcwrel | i'm on windows 7 |
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| 18:53.33 | jelly-home | whatever your environment is, it has scp and ssh, but no sftp? |
| 18:53.36 | wcwrel | i'm using the NppFTP plugin for notepad++ |
| 18:53.48 | mumpitze1 | then ssh to your debian and run sftp -v user@localhost |
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| 18:54.44 | jelly-home | wcwrel: so again. pastebin the output of "env" in your bash. |
| 18:54.48 | wcwrel | pastebin.com |
| 18:54.52 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 18:54.53 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 18:55.08 | wcwrel | http://pastebin.com/kLHgtxYh |
| 18:55.35 | jelly-home | wcwrel: as for the localhost one, tell it "yes" and see if it works |
| 18:55.58 | acu | any hint how to deal with EFI ? |
| 18:56.05 | mumpitze1 | !efi |
| 18:56.06 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
| 18:56.22 | jelly-home | mumpitze1: that's not overly useful |
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| 18:56.35 | mumpitze1 | feel free to be useful then |
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| 18:56.48 | jelly-home | I can't in this case. |
| 18:57.21 | wcwrel | http://pastebin.com/3aHECJgt |
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| 18:57.51 | jelly-home | wcwrel: interesting. How did you install your debian machine? |
| 18:58.10 | wcwrel | jelly-home: its a VM, and i used latest 64 bit iso |
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| 18:58.45 | jelly-home | wcwrel: can you pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config and did you make any changes? Also, is there anything related in /var/log/auth.log? |
| 19:00.11 | wcwrel | http://paste.debian.net/11154/ |
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| 19:01.17 | jelly-home | wcwrel: it seems to be highly customized, as if someone copied it from a different distro |
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| 19:01.56 | wcwrel | jelly-home, i copied it from some random folder |
| 19:01.59 | wcwrel | because i was having troubles |
| 19:02.11 | wcwrel | and screwed up the file to begin with |
| 19:02.17 | wcwrel | where do i get the default file? |
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| 19:03.12 | jelly-home | !confnew |
| 19:03.12 | dpkg | [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>. |
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| 19:03.29 | jelly-home | wcwrel: openssh-server package |
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| 19:04.53 | jelly-home | be careful not to log off until you can confirm ssh is working again |
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| 19:06.25 | wcwrel | ok i can log in with another session |
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| 19:07.59 | jelly-home | wcwrel: great. verify sftp localhost works. |
| 19:08.38 | Zambezi | I installed Wheezy without problems. I upgraded to the Nvidia drivers and no Xorg won't load. Any ideas what went wrong? Stuck in console. |
| 19:09.05 | wcwrel | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/418sczBm |
| 19:09.10 | wcwrel | does that mean it is working? |
| 19:09.19 | jelly-home | Zambezi: did you install them "the debian way" or with nvidia's installer? |
| 19:09.39 | Zambezi | jelly-home: The Debian way with a tutorial from debian.org. |
| 19:09.39 | Slagwag | woo hoo |
| 19:09.46 | Slagwag | enter debian channel and problem fixes itself |
| 19:09.51 | Slagwag | self-high-five. |
| 19:09.55 | babilen | heh |
| 19:10.05 | babilen | Zambezi: Which tutorial exactly? |
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| 19:10.27 | Vicissitude | is there some obvious reaso why /etc/inetd.conf doesn't exist? (wheezy here) |
| 19:10.31 | Zambezi | babilen: Let me start another computer. |
| 19:11.03 | jelly-home | Vicissitude: inetd is not installed by default. |
| 19:11.24 | wcwrel | [SFTP] Error initialising sftp: Access denied. Authentication that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive |
| 19:12.02 | Vicissitude | jelly-home, ah, that would explain it then. thank you. |
| 19:12.05 | jelly-home | wcwrel: nope, same thing as before. can you "service ssh restart" as root and try again? |
| 19:12.23 | wcwrel | pretty sure it already did that |
| 19:12.44 | wcwrel | i did it again and same problem |
| 19:13.00 | jelly-home | wcwrel: does /etc/ssh/sshd_config look any different at all? |
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| 19:13.27 | Zambezi | babilen: wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicDrivers |
| 19:13.30 | wcwrel | http://paste.debian.net/11162/ |
| 19:13.35 | wcwrel | no it doesnt |
| 19:13.38 | wcwrel | its the exact same |
| 19:13.47 | wcwrel | what command do i execute to replace it? |
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| 19:15.31 | babilen | Zambezi: Which card do you have? (lspci -nn|grep -i vga -- provide the pciid at the end (looks like [abcd:1234])) -- Could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Did you create the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf with the correct content? Could you paste that as well? |
| 19:15.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell Zambezi -about nopaste |
| 19:15.48 | jelly-home | wcwrel: huh. Not sure, but try this: mv /etc/ssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh/sshd_config.old && dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server |
| 19:17.36 | wcwrel | jelly-home, YES!! |
| 19:17.37 | wcwrel | that worked!! |
| 19:17.39 | wcwrel | thank you |
| 19:18.38 | Zambezi | babilen: Well. In console everything is a bit more trick providing logfile. GT215 (GT 240) lspci says. |
| 19:18.47 | wcwrel | and SFTP works! |
| 19:18.52 | jelly-home | wcwrel: be careful when configuring sshd |
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| 19:19.09 | wcwrel | well what happened was i created sshd_config file BEFORE i installed it |
| 19:19.12 | wcwrel | and so it kept it |
| 19:19.22 | wcwrel | and some guy in this channel kept telling me random locations to copy a new one from |
| 19:19.32 | jelly-home | bad guy! :-) |
| 19:19.35 | jelly-home | no cookie |
| 19:19.51 | wcwrel | i think his name was jelly-home |
| 19:19.56 | wcwrel | just kidding ;) |
| 19:20.40 | wcwrel | ok i want to authenticate using private key, but how do i get my id_rsa in correct private key format ? |
| 19:21.03 | jelly-home | did you not already set that up? |
| 19:21.06 | babilen | Zambezi: Our bot sent you information on how to paste from the console using the "nopaste" tool |
| 19:21.25 | babilen | Zambezi: And please give me the pciid not the name of that card. :) |
| 19:21.28 | wcwrel | jelly-home, that was for git bash, not Notepad++ which apparently uses a different format |
| 19:21.30 | Zambezi | babilen: Will check. |
| 19:21.37 | babilen | dpkg: nopaste |
| 19:21.37 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
| 19:21.48 | babilen | Zambezi: ^^^ That factoid was sent to you in a private message |
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| 19:22.15 | Zambezi | babilen: I'm checking. |
| 19:22.23 | jelly-home | wcwrel: I have no idea which format Notepad++' ssh plugin uses. Try asking ##windows, or try using putty and puttygen to convert it to putty format, maybe. |
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| 19:27.43 | Zambezi | babilen: Xorg.log http://pastie.org/8056651 and lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/5778086 |
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| 19:28.31 | babilen | Zambezi: Please run "lspci -nn" because that actually lists the PCIID. But its okay, I am sure I can find it. |
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| 19:29.37 | babilen | Zambezi: Hmm, did you create a configuration file ( /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf ) as instructed on http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration and did you reboot after installing the drivers? |
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| 19:30.19 | Zambezi | babilen: http://pastie.org/8056670 |
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| 19:30.59 | babilen | Zambezi: yeah, that card is supported by the driver in wheezy |
| 19:31.10 | gics | hello, it's possible to add an hard disk in a second moment within a system already set with lvm+encrypted disk ? |
| 19:31.44 | gics | or i need to format all and reinstall? |
| 19:31.51 | Zambezi | babilen: Maybe a bit unattended during the part about the configuration file... |
| 19:32.41 | babilen | Zambezi: I don't quite understand what that means. did you create that configuration file or did you not? Did you reboot after you installed the drivers? |
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| 19:33.52 | babilen | gics: Sure, just add it as physical volume to your existing volume group (cf. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/addpvstovg.html) -- You can then do whatever you want to do with the space. |
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| 19:34.32 | babilen | gics: Note that this simply adds the additional storage space to the volume group, but does not change any logical volumes let alone filesystems |
| 19:34.54 | gics | babilen, thanks i'm going crazy with all this vg/pv... |
| 19:35.20 | babilen | You might want to read that howto and keep http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/LVM1.svg/500px-LVM1.svg.png around |
| 19:36.02 | babilen | gics: It certainly gets more complicated if you have LUKS-on-LVM and then filesystems on top of all that. |
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| 19:36.26 | Zambezi | babilen: I didn't create the file before I rebooted. I didn't finish the whole tutorial which I understand now would been a good idea. |
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| 19:37.09 | babilen | Zambezi: Okay, please create the file (e.g. by running: mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf) and reboot |
| 19:37.16 | gics | babilen, i can see dmcrypt don't know if it's the same as luks |
| 19:37.18 | babilen | (or simply restart your X server) |
| 19:37.56 | babilen | gics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Key_Setup might clarify that |
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| 19:40.21 | gics | babilen, one thing i still don't understand is if i can preserve my passphrase also for the new HD or i'll need to set 2 different passphrase |
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| 19:43.02 | babilen | gics: Do you have LUKS on LVM or the other way round? |
| 19:43.36 | gics | babilen, i have luks and LVM on top of it |
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| 19:43.45 | petn-randall | gics: The recommended layer order is (lowest to highest): HDDs → RAID → LUKS → LVM → filesystem |
| 19:43.46 | gics | if i'm not wrong |
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| 19:44.57 | gics | petn-randall, i think i'm in the right order, there is a way to check for? |
| 19:45.13 | petn-randall | If you put LUKS before RAID you'll have to provide two passphrases to unlock, do twice the encryption, and have the chances doubled to malicously access your data. |
| 19:45.28 | gics | petn-randall, no raid here |
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| 19:46.01 | gics | only dm-crypt and lvm on top |
| 19:46.21 | babilen | petn-randall: gics want to add an additional physical volume to one of his/her volume group(s) and (presumably) also enlarge some of the filesystems |
| 19:46.23 | gics | all done at the installation stage |
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| 19:46.56 | petn-randall | gics: Are the drives the same size? |
| 19:46.58 | gics | babilen, bingo except for her ;) |
| 19:47.35 | gics | petn-randall, more or less, one 128gb an d the other 120gb |
| 19:47.52 | babilen | gics: hence his/her (you never know and I don't like making wrong assumptions) :) -- I'll take a short break and will be back later. |
| 19:48.33 | gics | babilen, thanks for your interest |
| 19:48.35 | petn-randall | gics: Then make it a RAID0, if you want no redundancy. It'll be faster than having two PVs, and not less safe (You data will be gone when one of the drive dies). |
| 19:48.54 | babilen | concurs |
| 19:49.17 | babilen | until later peeps |
| 19:49.29 | petn-randall | babilen: See ya! |
| 19:49.43 | petn-randall | eats supper, so no support for a while. |
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| 19:54.24 | Zambezi | babilen: Almost there. For some reason I can run startx as root. So at least it's working again. I've never experienced this problem with permission. |
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| 19:54.43 | wcwrel | how do i add group write permissions? |
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| 19:55.16 | gics | wcwrel, chmod g+w "file" |
| 19:55.35 | wcwrel | sweet it worked1 |
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| 20:01.40 | wcwrel | I'm trying to fetch php extension php5-xmlrpc but it's not working: Failed to fetch http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/php5-xmlrpc_5.4.4-14_amd64.deb 404 Not Found |
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| 20:03.23 | Zambezi | babilen: I'm a nut. :-P I started Xorg within a screen by accident. So now it's working. Thanks alot for your help. Much appreciated. I even thank you tomorrow! |
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| 20:06.55 | gics | wcwrel, that version doesn't exist, you can see http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ but there is an higher version php5-xmlrpc_5.4.4-15_amd64.deb |
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| 20:07.21 | DreamPCs | Hey guys, I'm running Wheezy with KDE but after a reboot my titlebars are missing. Also my ALT+TAB functionality is not working. |
| 20:07.23 | wcwrel | I just did apt-get install php5-xmlrpc |
| 20:07.29 | wcwrel | and that didnt work |
| 20:07.35 | DreamPCs | I tried kwin --replace but I get a bad command error. |
| 20:07.48 | gics | wcwrel, try to apt-get update first if you haven't done |
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| 20:10.29 | wcwrel | gics, oh that did the trick |
| 20:10.31 | wcwrel | thanks |
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| 20:11.33 | gics | wcwrel, np it's nice to share solution ;) |
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| 20:15.45 | jelly-home | ,v php5-xmlrpc |
| 20:15.47 | judd | Package: php5-xmlrpc on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze15; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze15; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u2; jessie: 5.4.4-15; sid: 5.5.0~rc3+dfsg-2 |
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| 20:18.52 | Guest87428 | o |
| 20:19.20 | midacts | For a fileserver, would sshfs be a one stop shop, or would it be better to have samba/vsftpd. |
| 20:19.55 | phy1729 | local fileserver? |
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| 20:20.07 | midacts | Well for a home fileserver |
| 20:20.16 | midacts | Potentially to be used remotely. |
| 20:20.18 | phy1729 | do you trust the network? |
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| 20:20.50 | midacts | Yes, its just my xen hypervisor and my folks that live at my house |
| 20:21.13 | phy1729 | any need for permissions on files? |
| 20:21.46 | midacts | ehhh, kinda. i have one directory that I have set so only I can access it |
| 20:22.03 | midacts | i currently have samba and vsftpd. I am looking at going the sshfs route |
| 20:22.31 | phy1729 | I'd go for samba for the part that doesn't need permissions. sshfs will have some crypto overhead you don't need and would probably be a mess on windows |
| 20:22.47 | phy1729 | however if you want to test out sshfs by all means ;) |
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| 20:23.40 | midacts | No doubt. I got the local part working. I was looking at sshfs because i could use it remotely and almost make my remote fileserver a mounted drive. |
| 20:24.13 | midacts | and it would be encrypted with ssh, whereas i dont think samba or vsftpd (without ssl) would be encrypted over the internet |
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| 20:25.15 | MaddinXx_ | hi there. how can I calculate debian default-start and default-stop from chkconfig values (for APF Firewall init script)? |
| 20:25.28 | phy1729 | You could also setup a vpn or look into ssh -L but that said sshfs is probably the simplest |
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| 20:26.54 | midacts | phy1729, Thank you for your replies. I have openvpn setup on my dd-wrt router at home. I didnt think about that. Thanks for your advice. It helps to beat around ideas to make sure I am heading in the right direction |
| 20:28.27 | martin__ | hi im using debian unstable. gnome tells me that there are new updates available. when clicking install updates i get "E: Error http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libllvm3.2 amd64 1:3.2repack-7 |
| 20:28.30 | martin__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.39 | martin__ | does some one know how to fix this? |
| 20:28.48 | phy1729 | did you apt-get update? |
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| 20:29.39 | martin__ | no |
| 20:29.50 | martin__ | i can update via terminal without problems |
| 20:29.55 | martin__ | but isnt this a gnome issue? |
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| 20:30.08 | Joe7 | hi |
| 20:30.25 | phy1729 | martin__: oh I couldn't say |
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| 20:30.47 | Joe7 | trying to turn on Spamassassin in EXIM4 with no luck. Is http://wiki.debian.org/Exim outdated by any chance or any typical mistakes? :o |
| 20:31.20 | martin__ | LordDeath, are u a spy? |
| 20:31.31 | martin__ | you are everywhere xD |
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| 20:37.41 | brotatos | What version of tmux is currently packaged in jessie? |
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| 20:38.07 | brotatos | 1.8.3 |
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| 20:44.15 | tubaman | Joe7, I ended up hooking up spamassassin via procmail |
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| 20:45.58 | petn-randall | gics: You got any further yet? |
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| 20:47.42 | brotatos | Is netctl available in the official debian repos? |
| 20:48.02 | vadimkolchev | I'm a little bit confused. What's the difference between kernel release and kernel version? In my installation kernel version is 3.2.46-1 and kernel release is 3.2.0-4 |
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| 20:52.05 | immotus | anyone happen to remember the name of a utility for loading Linux over the currently running OS (in RAM)? Something like "bootload" from http://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-linux-bootloader.php but I want to do this on x86_64 |
| 20:52.41 | koanhead | does anyone here know a command to tell if KMS is running? started kernel with 'nomodeset' but can't tell if it took. |
| 20:53.04 | immotus | ... unless there's a better way to downgrade Ubuntu 12.04 to 10.0 when I'm a few miles away from the console and we don't have a PXE setup on that network |
| 20:53.28 | koanhead | immotus: do you mean loadlin? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loadlin |
| 20:54.06 | immotus | koanhead: would that work? Is that the same as LILO? |
| 20:54.31 | jelly-home | immotus: kexec |
| 20:55.15 | immotus | looks at both |
| 20:55.16 | koanhead | immotus: no, iirc it works from within a running (win32) system and can run live or install to disk- caveat: have not used it in >5 years |
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| 20:55.43 | immotus | koanhead: good memory :^) |
| 20:55.49 | koanhead | immotus: do you need to downgrade the whole system or just use an older kernel? |
| 20:56.01 | immotus | jelly-home: I found a package called "kexec-tools" I'm looking at now |
| 20:56.32 | jelly-home | vadimkolchev: 3.2.0-4-amd64 denotes kernel module compatibility that may cross actual versions, /msg dpkg kernel abi |
| 20:56.47 | immotus | koanhead: it looks like loadlin runs from DOS |
| 20:57.25 | jelly-home | immotus: you didn't specify WHICH currently running os |
| 20:58.00 | zykotick9 | jelly-home: actually they did, ubuntu->ubuntu |
| 20:58.07 | immotus | jelly-home: currently running Ubuntu 12 LTS, switching to Ubuntu 10 |
| 20:58.50 | immotus | later I'll have to upgrade from 10 to 12.. but there are some goofy dependencies I'm having to deal with as I upgrade this particular software |
| 20:58.54 | jelly-home | is suddenly uninterested |
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| 20:59.13 | babilen | immotus: So, take it to #ubuntu -- This channel is for Debian support. |
| 20:59.21 | immotus | jelly-home: I was hesitant to ask in #ubuntu.. I figured ya'll would have a better chance :^) |
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| 20:59.52 | immotus | it does look like kexec is what I want |
| 21:00.01 | jelly-home | immotus: ##linux isn't as bad, and I heard there was something like ubuntu-server |
| 21:00.15 | jelly-home | but please keep to debian proper while in here |
| 21:00.35 | immotus | jelly-home: hey.. there *is* an ubuntu-server thanks! |
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| 21:01.41 | koanhead | I'm trying to get fglrx working- how do I check whether KMS is on / off? |
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| 21:04.35 | koanhead | ...aaand now I know how to clear out a chat room. |
| 21:04.43 | bin_bash | is this channel related to the OFTC one? |
| 21:04.55 | koanhead | bin_bash: what is OFTC |
| 21:05.11 | bin_bash | another net |
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| 21:05.50 | krofna | How can I debug X client from tty? I get "Failed to connect to X server...." when program starts. |
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| 21:06.11 | koanhead | bin_bash: this channel is for Debian support, dunno what OFTC is |
| 21:06.26 | phy1729 | krofna: what does echo $DISPLAY say? |
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| 21:06.35 | Dark_light | does iceweasel in wheezy have the "new" private browsing functionalities? (private browsing per tab) I've been asked but I'm not on debian right now |
| 21:06.43 | krofna | phy1729: :0 |
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| 21:06.54 | zykotick9 | krofna: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, especially for EE lines. good luck. |
| 21:07.32 | phy1729 | koanhead: it's another IRC network like freenode http://www.oftc.net/ |
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| 21:07.52 | Dark_light | if anyone could quickly check it |
| 21:07.54 | unr3al011 | hey i deleted some gb of data on my debian box but "df -h" doesnt report any free space? |
| 21:07.58 | unr3al011 | it doesnt change |
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| 21:08.34 | krofna | zykotick9: I dont see how it helps me |
| 21:09.09 | gics | petn-randall, nope i'm still googling and thinking to reinstall Deb |
| 21:09.31 | zykotick9 | Dark_light: my iceweasel 17 (from wheezy security) seems to have the old style Tools / Start Private Browsing... how can i test for sure? |
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| 21:09.43 | phy1729 | Dark_light: all I see is a new private window on stable iw23 |
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| 21:10.42 | Dark_light | just ctrl-shift-p and check if private browsing starts in a different window/tab or replaces the current session |
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| 21:11.05 | phy1729 | Dark_light: new window |
| 21:11.10 | Dark_light | phy1729: thanks! |
| 21:11.32 | zykotick9 | phy1729: iw17 it replaces current session |
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| 21:11.45 | zykotick9 | Dark_light: see above, my bad |
| 21:11.51 | phy1729 | is on iw23 |
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| 21:13.33 | Dark_light | phy1729: didn't they switch to ESR by default ? |
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| 21:14.20 | phy1729 | Dark_light: I just followed http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 21:14.35 | zykotick9 | Dark_light: phy1729 must be using mozilla.debian.net (or some other repo), that's NOT default debian wheezy version! |
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| 21:21.14 | Dark_light | why are the release versions not in the main repos ? |
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| 21:21.43 | sam2468_ | hi there, i am trying to install debian jessie with mini.iso . When I finish the Disk partitioning the Disk partitioning goes to loop and I can't install the base system. Is it a known bug? |
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| 21:22.00 | zykotick9 | Dark_light: wheezy came with iw10, to get the 17 version you should have security enabled |
| 21:22.38 | zykotick9 | ,versions iceweasel |
| 21:22.38 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; jessie: 10.0.12esr-1+nmu1; wheezy-security: 17.0.6esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 17.0.6esr-1; experimental: 21.0-1 |
| 21:23.34 | Dark_light | zykotick9: no I meant why not having both the esr and the release builds avaiable ? |
| 21:23.38 | Dark_light | *available |
| 21:24.08 | zykotick9 | Dark_light: stable is stable (debian version of word) - for better or worse. |
| 21:24.54 | Dark_light | zykotick9: that's true but in the past it has used the release builds since ESR is fairly recent right ? |
| 21:24.55 | ImaLamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:28.48 | zykotick9 | Dark_light: mozilla and chromiums version number race - doesn't fit well with debian stable... it's madness IMO. |
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| 21:32.22 | ImaLamer | i have a mount point that only root can use, but i want to share it via SMB w/o any privledges needed |
| 21:32.47 | ImaLamer | do i change the ownership of the mount point itself in media |
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| 21:38.03 | Dark_light | zykotick9: on an unrelated note where can I browser wheezy backports ? |
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| 21:48.20 | schneider | hi. I've got a debian jessie with the same problem as described here: |
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| 21:48.28 | schneider | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/37582 |
| 21:48.53 | schneider | basically: "snd_pcm: Unknown symbol vm_iomap_memory" |
| 21:49.12 | schneider | we've reinstalled the kernel package, but no luck |
| 21:49.24 | schneider | is there some kind of known bug? |
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| 21:51.44 | ashka | an apt question - why is there sometimes a package both in oldstable and sid, but not in stable nor testing ? |
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| 21:55.55 | ImaLamer | in wheezy can i feed it a random win* partition to mount and it'll figure out which it is? |
| 21:56.03 | ImaLamer | *which type |
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| 21:57.03 | Dark_light | ImaLamer: you'd probably need ntfs-3g |
| 21:57.18 | ImaLamer | i'm sure they are all installed, i'm wondering how smart 'mount' is |
| 21:57.21 | ImaLamer | and testing it |
| 21:57.26 | ImaLamer | takes as much time as asking |
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| 22:08.09 | ImaLamer | just mount w/p parameters, makes it rw and automounts :) |
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| 22:08.58 | dekiss | hi, I think I have done something to my terminal now I can't scroll in the terminal |
| 22:09.12 | dekiss | I did some command pager .. something, how can I reset the terminal? |
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| 22:13.52 | peterrooney | dekiss: try ^Q, the companion to ^S |
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| 22:14.42 | laddu | I'm trying to get my wifi to work! I've uninstalled wicd. I've installed network manager. How do I get it to recognise my routers? Do I need to manually start the daemon? |
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| 22:16.28 | mumpitze1 | laddu: does iwlist wlan0 scan show any SSIDs? |
| 22:17.03 | laddu | it says it doesn't support scanning |
| 22:17.57 | laddu | but wlan2 does show a connection ot a cell |
| 22:18.08 | laddu | but there's no wifi |
| 22:18.36 | laddu | the ESSID: is 'Plusnetwireless7B32A7' |
| 22:18.36 | mumpitze1 | give the actual output, no paraphrasing |
| 22:18.49 | mumpitze1 | why do you have a wlan2? |
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| 22:19.02 | mumpitze1 | 3 wlan adapters in a PC is a bit much... |
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| 22:19.31 | laddu | mumpitzel: i'm on a laptop. not on the messed up computer. wlan2l: becayse I had 3 adapters. This is my third one. The other two are gone. Debian seems to just still remeber them |
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| 22:21.42 | laddu | is there something I can do? |
| 22:22.54 | mumpitze1 | laddu: check your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules then you should be able to make wlan2 wlan0 again |
| 22:23.42 | mumpitze1 | and I suggest http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK for accessing the wlan with cli tools only |
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| 22:29.21 | Joe7 | tubaman: how come? |
| 22:29.29 | Joe7 | re exim+spamass^ |
| 22:29.47 | Joe7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:30.30 | tubaman | Joe7, I wanted to drop detected spam into a "spam" folder. procmail works well for this kind of filtering |
| 22:30.47 | laddu | mumpitzel: i've editied the file. how do I 'bring the interface up'? |
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| 22:33.12 | Joe7 | tubaman: and how do you add spamass filterin in there? |
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| 22:34.18 | acu | are debian repos very slow, or is just my computers ? |
| 22:34.57 | tubaman | Joe7, https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsedViaProcmail |
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| 22:35.26 | tubaman | that's the recipe I used minus the fix for procmail dropping the 'F'. I never had to do that |
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| 22:35.55 | tubaman | good luck Joe7 |
| 22:35.56 | schneider | ok, downgraded the kernel... |
| 22:36.04 | schneider | it's now working again |
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| 22:57.08 | pixelshuck | Hello, I have pretty old laptop(ddr1, centrino), and want to get KDE3 on Wheezy, is it possible to do? Trinity seems to be Squeeze only |
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| 23:34.37 | robertl_ | some blogger at mariaDB says the MySQL license changed in 5.5.31 to not GPL ... so will debian be dropping MySQL some time in the future? |
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| 23:39.59 | cz21 | anyone know how to get the search box to stay open in geany when you control-F to search for something and hit the next button? |
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| 23:40.43 | koanhead | Robert_L: https://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.html -> probably not |
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| 23:43.47 | Robert_L | koanhead, thanks. FYI: https://blog.mariadb.org/mysql-man-pages-silently-relicensed-away-from-gpl/ |
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| 23:44.34 | asciiker | hello |
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| 23:45.49 | asciiker | I've just created a script that will do automatic failover between virtualbox hosts on different datacenters, it is based on debian squeeze but it works on wheezy. |
| 23:45.54 | asciiker | where should I post it? |
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| 23:48.38 | asciiker | I'm willing to share this with the community, what's the "proper" way |
| 23:48.43 | mmnicolas | asciiker: somewhere in the wiki I guess ? or your own blog or wiki I'll get indexed eventually |
| 23:49.07 | asciiker | mmnicolas: debian or virtualbox wiki ? |
| 23:49.36 | mmnicolas | I don't think there is one proper way, you have multiple channels, forums, mailing lists, wiki/blogs etc |
| 23:49.46 | asciiker | mmnicolas: I'm a programmer, not a web developer, I've never "shared" my code |
| 23:50.01 | mmnicolas | How is that supposed to mean anything |
| 23:50.28 | reavengrey | asciiker: u not good person |
| 23:50.32 | reavengrey | u no share the codez |
| 23:50.38 | asciiker | it means most of my work runs in custom closed environments |
| 23:50.42 | asciiker | enterprise style |
| 23:50.54 | asciiker | but I want to share this |
| 23:50.57 | reavengrey | i curse u in the name of stallman our god and the holy unix tradition |
| 23:51.20 | reavengrey | asciiker: normally you just create an account on an online source host |
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| 23:51.24 | asciiker | I love debian |
| 23:51.30 | asciiker | (in my defense) |
| 23:51.35 | reavengrey | like github.com, gitorious, bitbucket, sourceforge etc |
| 23:51.41 | mmnicolas | asciiker: another simpler way to put it, use the internet |
| 23:51.43 | reavengrey | and just push your source there |
| 23:52.01 | reavengrey | then people can download it, view it, contribute, etc as needed |
| 23:52.20 | reavengrey | the spirit of ~openness~ :3 |
| 23:52.27 | asciiker | I've looked at github but it seems like to much trouble, can I just create a blog and post it here? how does it work ?? |
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| 23:54.10 | asciiker | reavengrey: the last piece of code I've shared was in 1996 through a peer to peer BBS and a 14,4K modem connection |
| 23:55.15 | asciiker | mmnicolas: I guess I'll do that |
| 23:55.23 | Robert_L | asciiker, it's bash, php, perl, something else? |
| 23:55.50 | Robert_L | asciiker, souceforge or github is probably the best place |
| 23:55.52 | asciiker | bash, heavily based on mmonit and the virtualbox API |
| 23:55.55 | Gaxnys | Robert_L: How come you only wrote the name of one proper programming language? :D |
| 23:56.09 | Robert_L | Gaxnys, you mean php? |
| 23:56.48 | Gaxnys | Robert_L: perl. PHP is not a proper programming language imo. |
| 23:57.02 | asciiker | php is not a programming language |
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| 23:57.23 | Robert_L | Gaxnys, asciiker, Facebook and Wikipedia respectfully disagree :) |
| 23:57.47 | asciiker | sorry but I'll never consider it to be one since it isn't (or need to be) compiled |
| 23:57.51 | Gaxnys | Robert_L: Script language, perhaps. |
| 23:58.12 | Robert_L | asciiker, well then at least Perl fails your test too :) |
| 23:58.14 | Gaxnys | asciiker: Actually, facebook uses some precomliling-stuff. Not sure how it works though. |
| 23:58.15 | Robert_L | has contempt for perl |
| 23:58.43 | Robert_L | that said I also have contempt for Java, so... |
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| 23:59.46 | mmnicolas | oh so requiring to be compiled makes it a programming language |
| 23:59.53 | Gaxnys | Robert_L: Well, yeah, but Java is awful. |
