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| 00:02.53 | darthanubis | rythmnbox fails to pause after a few hours playing streamed audio from a local nfs share via dlna over wifi :-P |
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| 00:07.25 | Dimtar | Hello, I need help salvaging a Debian install. |
| 00:08.25 | Dimtar | I dist-upgraded from squeeze to wheezy and dpkg segfaulted midway |
| 00:09.05 | Dimtar | And now all the dependencies are broken |
| 00:10.01 | Dimtar | Anyone alive here? |
| 00:10.03 | ScottG489 | lol why the hell does VIsudo open in nano |
| 00:10.21 | Dimtar | Use |
| 00:10.50 | Dimtar | Export VISUAL='vi' |
| 00:12.00 | ScottG489 | Dimtar: is that the proper way to set that up or is there an 'update-alternative' i should modify? |
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| 00:12.45 | Dimtar | Don't think so, put it in your .profile or something |
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| 00:15.52 | mayhew | update-alternatives --config editor |
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| 00:24.28 | ScottG489 | mayhew: Ah thanks. I'm not on debian too often but I guess I still know my stuff well enough :P |
| 00:25.34 | drhouse123 | hi, how i can disable -Werror for gcc in debian wheezy? |
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| 00:34.47 | johnfg_ | hi guys |
| 00:35.13 | johnfg_ | Is there any kind of services gui available like what we had < wheezy? |
| 00:35.14 | mayhew | drhouse123: isn't it disable by default unless you explicitly pass it as an argument to gcc? |
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| 00:36.33 | mayhew | johnfg_: not too sure about GUI, but sysv-rc-conf has a nice curses interface |
| 00:36.58 | drhouse123 | mayhew: i don't know how |
| 00:37.29 | drhouse123 | export CFLAGS="-Wno-error=format-security" don't work |
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| 00:38.17 | johnfg_ | mayhew: K,I'll check that out then. |
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| 00:40.06 | johnfg_ | mayhew: I didn't even have that package installed! That's what I get for going from cli gui over the last few versions. |
| 00:43.39 | mayhew | You like it? Pretty easy to use IMO. |
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| 00:47.23 | johnfg_ | how can I tell what /dev my mouse is using? |
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| 00:47.38 | johnfg_ | (just installing gpm on wheezy) |
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| 00:49.04 | dvs | johnfg_: /dev/input/mice ? |
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| 00:51.40 | johnfg_ | dvs: Well, that file shows the input of this mouse, but as it's a usb, I need to know which one for gpm. |
| 00:53.44 | johnfg_ | dvs: Nope, you gave it right, thanks! |
| 00:54.15 | dvs | np |
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| 01:56.59 | idler421 | hey |
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| 01:57.05 | idler421 | i need to patch my kernel |
| 01:57.09 | idler421 | how do i do that |
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| 02:00.10 | Devastator | idler421 why you need it? |
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| 02:12.37 | rainfyre | aloha everyone. I'm wondering what these error messages mean when trying to run dpkg --force-architecture -i canon.printer.drivers: cnijfilter-mx860series depends on libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0). |
| 02:13.16 | rainfyre | running wheezy. Does this mean that the versions of the dependent packages are older than what I have installed? |
| 02:13.51 | nevyn | rainfyre: do you have multiarch configured? |
| 02:14.06 | nevyn | why are you trying to --force-architecture? |
| 02:15.17 | rainfyre | nevyn it's the only way to install the drivers I need for my printer |
| 02:15.51 | rainfyre | how do I make sure that I have multiarch installed correctly? |
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| 02:17.57 | nevyn | dpkg --list-foreign-architectures |
| 02:17.57 | dpkg | nevyn: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 02:18.12 | nevyn | !multiarch |
| 02:18.12 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. See also <multi-arch installer>. |
| 02:18.32 | nevyn | rainfyre: I assume the drivers are i386 and you're on an amd64 system? |
| 02:18.33 | rainfyre | nevyn: thank you, I'm already there |
| 02:18.35 | rainfyre | yes |
| 02:18.36 | rainfyre | sorry |
| 02:18.59 | nevyn | so they'll need the i386 version of the libaries |
| 02:19.13 | nevyn | rainfyre: --force-arch is not going to help with that. |
| 02:19.16 | rainfyre | ok |
| 02:19.21 | nevyn | multiarch will tho |
| 02:19.26 | rainfyre | ok |
| 02:20.15 | rainfyre | I've added i386 as an arch |
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| 02:26.29 | slidesinger-ss | Looking for how to globally set mime type handling, if anyone knows. Example, gimp takes over the role of default handler for pdf from evince and I cannot figure out why. |
| 02:26.57 | slovacus | hello |
| 02:29.16 | slovacus | hay algun peruano? |
| 02:29.45 | themill | slidesinger-ss: in what application(s)? mutt? |
| 02:32.07 | slidesinger-ss | mutt, iceweasel, thunar, it became the default pdf handler for every single app that can make that kind of request. |
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| 02:33.06 | slidesinger-ss | I believe it has something to do with /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache, but that file is clearly generated by the system at boot. |
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| 02:35.05 | dvs | slidesinger-ss: What window manager are you using? |
| 02:35.20 | slidesinger-ss | icewm |
| 02:35.37 | themill | slidesinger-ss: there is a progressive change from using mime.types to using desktop files for this; there's a long discussion on debian-devel about how to deal with this |
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| 02:37.25 | slidesinger-ss | themill: Do you have a link or a keyword that would help? Clearly I am not searching for the right topic. |
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| 02:39.51 | slidesinger-ss | themill: Never mind, I added debian-devel to my search and found something useful. Thanks for the help. |
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| 02:40.08 | themill | slidesinger-ss: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/09/msg00004.html and related threads. I can't recall the answer right now... but making your own mailcap entry is possibly what is required (although I'm surprised thunar is looking at that) |
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| 02:41.23 | Arrowmaster | slidesinger-ss: you can try using the xdg-mime default command |
| 02:41.41 | Arrowmaster | thats worked for me in the past |
| 02:42.59 | slidesinger-ss | I found this as the second entry once I added debian-devel to the search. It has specific instructions for system-wide mime type handling. http://wiki.debian.org/MIME |
| 02:43.21 | slidesinger-ss | I really have to learn to use the debian wiki. |
| 02:44.24 | Arrowmaster | i think xdg-mime edits $HOME/.local/share/applications |
| 02:44.32 | Arrowmaster | er the cache in there |
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| 02:51.41 | anonnumberanon | I need to understand how to chroot into my damaged system. |
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| 02:59.13 | anonnumberanon | my face when stable Debian installer... |
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| 03:01.27 | Fabianin | Does anyone know how to use the debug command in dosbox? |
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| 03:02.14 | Fabianin | Or is there a similar command for debian? |
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| 03:34.27 | ichthys | Hello all, I am having trouble shutting down my server. After upgrading to debian wheezy, when i go to shutdown, Linux will shutdown, but my actual box keeps running stuck on the shutdown screen until i hit the power button. I have tried using 'shutdown -h -P' and 'halt -p', but neither have worked. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 03:35.37 | Corey | ichthys: ACPI string in your grub kernel line. |
| 03:35.44 | IT_BONG | guys how to fix siocaddrt no such process in debian |
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| 03:36.28 | ichthys | Corey, i have typed 'dmesg | grep ACPI' and i get results |
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| 03:39.27 | IT_BONG | siocaddrt no such process in debian |
| 03:39.40 | IT_BONG | pls help me solve siocaddrt no such process in debian |
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| 03:43.59 | IT_BONG | how to know the broadcast address |
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| 03:47.01 | IT_BONG | help pls |
| 03:48.06 | scshunt | install siocaddrt? |
| 03:48.20 | scshunt | I dunno, what are you trying to do? |
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| 03:57.19 | moof2 | IT_BONG, you need an IP address in the subnet, and the mask |
| 03:57.36 | mutable_malachi | Hi. I have an old debian installation. I'm able to log in successfully through xdm, and then the screen goes black, and a few seconds later I end up with xdm again. Any guesses? |
| 03:57.51 | moof2 | then you invert the mask and bitwise "or" |
| 03:57.59 | IT_BONG | moof2 my ipaddress is 192.168.1.100 and my subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 |
| 03:58.29 | Moonlightning | special case, for 255.255.255.0, the broadcast is just <whatever>.255 |
| 03:58.31 | Moonlightning | I think. |
| 03:58.32 | moof2 | then your bcast is 192.168.1.255 |
| 03:59.23 | moof2 | Moonlightning, it's a simpler case, but it's the same (ip addr OR NOT mask) |
| 03:59.32 | Moonlightning | Indeed. |
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| 04:00.20 | moof2 | lots of times a bcast addr is not responded to |
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| 04:01.20 | moof2 | I have bad sunbirn on right hand |
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| 04:07.59 | IT_BONG | ok |
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| 04:12.21 | Dimitar | Hello? |
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| 04:14.59 | allure | Guys, need sugestions! I have all my client's files on a Debian VPS and I need to serve all their staff with the files. Obviously, I want to avoid having a smb server facing the internet, so I need sugestions. What should I do? |
| 04:16.48 | Cultist | ftp? |
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| 04:17.12 | allure | Cultist, they need a smb model file-sharing... :) |
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| 04:18.57 | sawjig | allure, then, nothing besides syncing the server locally to some samba server |
| 04:18.57 | Cultist | do they need constant 24/7 access? |
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| 04:19.18 | Cultist | could set up an openvpn server and connect to samba with that |
| 04:19.27 | sawjig | allure, if you run samba on a VPS in the net without setting up a VPN you're being idiotic. |
| 04:19.53 | allure | sawjig, that's the opposite of what I am doing. They can't handle the servers allocated there anymore, so I am moving everything to a cloud :) I know that smb facing the internet is not a good thing, that is why I came here for advice :D |
| 04:20.16 | sawjig | even then hosting providers parceling out VMs from racks of servers aren't always known for their best security practices when isolating hosts. |
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| 04:21.02 | allure | sawjig, yeah, but I got a space on a private cloud from another client of mine :) |
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| 04:22.51 | sawjig | allure, how are you going to encrypt the data? |
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| 04:23.09 | allure | sawjig, with duplicity |
| 04:23.19 | allure | its all gpg |
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| 04:24.18 | sawjig | if you're using duplicity and just pushing these backups to a server not quite understanding why samba is necessary |
| 04:24.47 | allure | sawjig, because the server they got is being discharged in a month's time |
| 04:24.47 | sawjig | especially since duplicity tars everything. |
| 04:25.17 | allure | I am free to do whatever I want with the files, just have to make it available through a filesharing system similar to samba |
| 04:25.18 | sawjig | okay so you're going to have encrypted backups so what about the encryption for the volumes on the server sharing? |
| 04:25.33 | allure | I dont get your question |
| 04:26.22 | idler420_ | hey |
| 04:26.26 | sawjig | duplicity doesn't directly encrypt the original data source. |
| 04:26.27 | idler420_ | i have a question |
| 04:26.31 | idler420_ | relating to kernel |
| 04:27.05 | allure | sawjig, but I wont need the originals anymore... |
| 04:27.34 | sawjig | allure, ... you're sharing tar backup files in a samba share? |
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| 04:27.57 | sawjig | tries to think of why that would ever be necessary |
| 04:28.02 | allure | you know thats not the case |
| 04:28.21 | allure | I am sharing files/folders and I am using duplicity to back it up to a VPS |
| 04:28.23 | allure | the files are there |
| 04:28.28 | sawjig | allure, no, I don't really know much about any of your setup or what you need other than 'samba like interface on a VPS' |
| 04:28.30 | allure | and that's my starting point |
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| 04:29.07 | maher_ | in bash you can remove file suffixes and prefixes with % and ## - how do you do both at the same time? |
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| 04:32.37 | allure | sawjig, Cultist, thanks for trying, guys... I am off to bed :) |
| 04:33.14 | sawjig | samba in the cloud |
| 04:33.15 | sawjig | barf |
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| 04:54.04 | scootypuff | i have the debian version of mint. can i just put only the debian links in my source.list and do a dist upgrade without breaking things? |
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| 04:55.26 | peterrooney | dpkg: tell scootypuff about based on debian |
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| 04:56.30 | scootypuff | lmde claims to be have 100% package compatibility with debian |
| 04:57.07 | sawjig | scootypuff, doesn't mean their repositiories match up |
| 04:57.14 | sawjig | just means they maintain upstream compatibility |
| 04:57.46 | themill | and they may or may not even do that. |
| 04:58.00 | sawjig | so anything for debian should work in lmde, but I wouldn't advise just switching repos. |
| 04:59.03 | sawjig | As I said, compatibility is not the same thing as having matching the same repos, and even if they have a lot of parity with debian in their project that doesn't mean it's a good idea to just switch the repos to debian. |
| 04:59.49 | sawjig | you really need to go ask the Mint people about doing such a thing. |
| 05:00.05 | sawjig | (sounds like an awful idea to me though) |
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| 05:01.01 | scootypuff | it is supposed to be based on testing but now that wheezy is stable it wont let me upgrade |
| 05:02.14 | themill | scootypuff: sounds like a question for #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org |
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| 05:47.14 | kenifanying | hi all, anyone use mupdf? why i can't use w key to shrinkwrap window to fit the page on wheezy? |
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| 06:08.39 | NoOova | Hello! I have very bad font rendering (Linux mint debian edition, so it is debian. (SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux)). What to do? |
| 06:09.33 | freax | yeah I don't like the Bitstream font either |
| 06:09.35 | freax | replace the font |
| 06:10.56 | themill | dpkg: tell NoOova about mint |
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| 06:12.30 | NoOova | Problem is not in font |
| 06:12.38 | NoOova | problem is in rendering system |
| 06:13.04 | NoOova | so in ubuntu that font liiks better, but i dont want install ubuntu. |
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| 06:14.02 | NoOova | System font is DejaVu sans |
| 06:14.26 | themill | NoOova: so definitely time to ask #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org -- mint is not debian so we can't help you here |
| 06:14.55 | NoOova | ooookaaaay ( |
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| 06:26.47 | mutable_malachi | I have inadequate space in /var/ to upgrade. Would anything stop me from making /var/cache/apt/archives a symlink to another directory on a filesystem with more space? |
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| 06:30.26 | mutable_malachi | Yep, looks like that approach works. |
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| 06:30.49 | NoOova | mutable_malachi: i thimg that if symlinking something stops, then something cannot stops mount -o bind =) |
| 06:30.51 | mutable_malachi | Somehow, after over six years using this operating system, ln syntax still messes me up. |
| 06:31.01 | mutable_malachi | NoOova: good idea. :) |
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| 06:39.31 | zenny | Hi |
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| 06:41.50 | zenny | Having an issue with the encryption in Debian Wheezy. After a few successful boots of an encrypted volume (/), cryptsetup stopped recognizing password (fed through remote ssh with dropbear in initramfs). No keyboard issues. Any hints? |
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| 06:47.14 | xbanux1 | hi...i have a couple of debian machines...for some of them the output of the command: "who -b" the timestamp is different than the others... |
| 06:48.03 | xbanux1 | i require this timestamp to be the same accross all machines since i have scripts running which collect these values...is there a way wherein i can set these timestamps? |
| 06:48.09 | xbanux1 | *to a perticular format |
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| 06:53.25 | themill | xbanux1: it's using your locale to format the date correctly |
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| 06:57.44 | caf | xbanux1: execute "LANG=C who -b" to get a consistent timestamp |
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| 06:59.52 | drhouse123 | hi! how i can disable hardening cflags ? DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=no fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -uc -uc doesn't work |
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| 07:02.47 | zenny | Hi, ḧaving an issue with the encryption in Debian Wheezy. After a few successful boots of an encrypted volume (/), cryptsetup stopped recognizing password (fed through remote ssh with dropbear in initramfs). No keyboard issues. Any hints? |
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| 07:07.40 | xbanux1 | @caf Thanks! :) |
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| 07:19.39 | Condenado_ | Hello, what else do I have to do so debian installer extract the requiring non-free firmware from the firmware tarball? |
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| 07:20.41 | moof2 | zenny, unless someone recognizes the problem as something they worked thru, more detail would be helpful; exact text of any messages would help a lot (maybe I can help further, maybe not... kinda doubt it as I never did make an encrypted vol |
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| 07:21.30 | moof2 | what install method |
| 07:21.36 | Condenado_ | DVD |
| 07:21.54 | Condenado_ | expert mode. |
| 07:22.19 | moof2 | you may have to extract the tarball at a specific point in the install process |
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| 07:22.56 | Condenado_ | hmmm okay so do I have to extract all the packages on the root directory of the USB disk? |
| 07:23.12 | moof2 | or maybe you can put it in your diskspace you've reserved for debian |
| 07:23.40 | moof2 | wait, usb? does it have two partitions? |
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| 07:24.12 | moof2 | what |
| 07:24.13 | Condenado_ | No, it's a FAT32 pendrive |
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| 07:24.31 | Condenado_ | I'm installing normally on a notebook of course. |
| 07:24.39 | moof2 | and are you using this as install media? |
| 07:25.03 | Condenado_ | No, the install media is a DVD, the target is a hard drive. |
| 07:25.24 | moof2 | what's the role of the pen drive? |
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| 07:25.35 | moof2 | as you've assigned it |
| 07:25.46 | Condenado_ | To install the required non-free drivers during debian installer. |
| 07:25.57 | moof2 | oh ok... |
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| 07:26.18 | moof2 | I -think- you can extract the tarball onto the pen drive |
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| 07:26.43 | moof2 | then just leave it in a usb port somewhere while you install |
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| 07:27.02 | Condenado_ | okay i will try it, one sec |
| 07:27.31 | moof2 | out of curiousity, what are you trying to support with the firmware? |
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| 07:27.53 | Condenado_ | it's a broadcom wireless card. |
| 07:28.02 | moof2 | ahh... |
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| 07:28.55 | Condenado_ | how do I check if it is loading the pendrive correctly? Like, a verbose mode of what is happening. |
| 07:29.04 | pmo | hmm did you guys have servers die accross the internet? |
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| 07:30.40 | greenmang0 | hi guys, what's the right way to calculate total number of file descriptors opened by a process? |
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| 07:31.11 | greenmang0 | i have seen people using "ls -1 /proc/PID/fd | wc -l" |
| 07:31.39 | greenmang0 | but found that most of the files in /prod/PID/fd are dead symlinks |
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| 07:35.43 | poisond | hello :) Any help what this means: http://pastie.org/7967024 ? |
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| 07:39.29 | moof2 | that's alotta packages kept back |
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| 07:40.33 | moof2 | there is a database that can tell you what pacakges depend on others |
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| 07:47.28 | Condenado_ | hmpf, it doesn't mount, it seems. since there are lots of fail messages |
| 07:47.49 | Condenado_ | but yea I can mount the device. |
| 07:48.13 | Condenado_ | manually but it doesn't find the firmware still. Me sad. |
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| 07:53.29 | moof2 | ok, can you untar the firmware to the mount point after untarrnig? |
| 07:53.55 | moof2 | wait, it mounts? it doesn't mount? |
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| 07:55.07 | moof2 | hey it's 1234 pclock! |
| 07:55.46 | moof2 | that ddn't make sense |
| 07:56.03 | moof2 | ok, can you untar the firmware to the mount point after mounting the pen drive? |
| 07:56.05 | Condenado_ | :V |
| 07:56.24 | Condenado_ | I can mount it manually but the installer can't mount by itself. |
| 07:56.35 | Condenado_ | yea |
| 07:57.11 | moof2 | so you can boot the installer, and using the kernel that's booted, you can mount the device? |
| 07:57.40 | Condenado_ | yes |
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| 07:58.08 | moof2 | hmm, ok, so much for just leaving the pen drive in a socket |
| 07:58.12 | Condenado_ | although it isn't registered in the fstab |
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| 07:58.45 | Condenado_ | I will restart the installer and see what happens. |
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| 07:59.53 | neon__ | anyone know if moonlight works? |
| 07:59.55 | sbarcteam | hey! Thanks for wheezy!!! just upgrade my squeeze to it, NICE! |
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| 08:00.21 | sbarcteam | neon__: wait for the night... and see yourself... |
| 08:00.23 | Condenado_ | I have a slight intuition I'm using the wrong tar ball. |
| 08:00.34 | neon__ | I get "The Silverlight plugin has crashed" |
| 08:00.53 | sbarcteam | I want to rebuild libapache2-mod-wsgi with python 2.6 on wheezy. |
| 08:00.59 | Condenado_ | Why would the firmwares be tarballed in deb format if the alternative console doesn't have dpkg??? |
| 08:01.28 | moof2 | it should have tar tho, and maybe it has ar |
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| 08:02.01 | moof2 | a .deb is an ar archive with two tarballs and a text file |
| 08:02.05 | xeon123 | I switched along time ago the ESC with the Caps Lock. Now I want to take this out. I did it setxkbmap, but everytime I restart the computer, the switch is still there. How can I take permanently the switch out? |
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| 08:03.20 | Condenado_ | hmmm |
| 08:03.27 | Condenado_ | well this is the one http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stable/current/ |
| 08:03.46 | Condenado_ | oh it does have ar |
| 08:04.24 | moof2 | well the thing is there should be an actual tarball in that dir (not a .deb) |
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| 08:05.48 | moof2 | yeah, that dir has a .zip and a .tar.gz |
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| 08:05.57 | mexx | hello |
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| 08:06.56 | Lachezar | Hey all... Trying to install OpenJDK 7 and there are too many dependencies that make no sense: ntfs-3g, libgnome-keyring*, update-inetd, gconf2, gvfs, etc. How can I drop those? |
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| 08:07.01 | mexx | I rebuilt the mutt package with openssl instead of gnutls, but it won't install the /etc/Muttrc* files |
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| 08:07.14 | sbarcteam | What I did was: apt-get build-dep libapache2-mod-wsgi; apt-get source libapache2-mod-wsgi, and then, applied this patch to its debian/rules file: http://pastebin.com/t5RW0iEY |
| 08:07.20 | sbarcteam | and ran dpkg-buildpackage |
| 08:07.32 | Condenado_ | oh damn it, I give up lol |
| 08:07.45 | sbarcteam | it built, but upon the installation the package fails, since it still expects /usr/bin/python to be 2.6.x |
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| 08:08.24 | sbarcteam | is there a doc link somewhere on how to do this PROPERLY debian way (I absolutely have to do this atrocity, and I don't want to change system default py version) |
| 08:08.25 | moof2 | just get the tarball and untar it onto the pen drive (by mounting the pen somewhere, cd to the mount point, extract the tarball) |
| 08:09.01 | Condenado_ | I did, no results. |
| 08:09.09 | sbarcteam | Lachezar: gconf2, gvfs, etc. are probably dependencies of dependencies. |
| 08:09.22 | sbarcteam | Lachezar: what actual package are you installing? |
| 08:09.30 | sbarcteam | you usually need the headless one... |
| 08:09.39 | Lachezar | sbarcteam: That's what I thought... openjdk-7-jdk |
| 08:09.44 | moof2 | when you say "no results", not sure what you mean... did you check the contents of the pen after untarring? |
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| 08:09.59 | Lachezar | sbarcteam: Anyway to trace the dependencies and single out the 'faulty' one? |
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| 08:10.07 | sbarcteam | no. |
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| 08:10.29 | Lachezar | sbarcteam: are there no 'dependency tree' generators? |
| 08:10.52 | sbarcteam | there are. do you need the SDK or JRE ? |
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| 08:11.17 | Lachezar | sbarcteam: Vanilla JDK: APP Servers use a JDK. |
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| 08:11.54 | sbarcteam | I have no idea what you need (and whether for app server or just running a precompiled app), also some servers don't need JDK, but JRE. |
| 08:12.06 | sbarcteam | you need JDK to comile stuff, but not to run. |
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| 08:13.22 | sbarcteam | anyway, deps are easily listed: apt-cache showpk <package> will show you metadata, pipe it into less and go through it. |
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| 08:14.44 | moof2 | Condenado_, there is another approach (completely diferent) |
| 08:14.55 | Lachezar | sbarcteam: You're generally right, but JSP pages need to be compiled to Java code, that gets compiled to Java .class. Some APP servers *do* come with their own compiler though. Maybe I should try the openjdk-jre-headless. |
| 08:15.11 | Condenado_ | after install? |
| 08:15.33 | jiohdi | not recommended but there is a ppa for java to get the real deal |
| 08:15.33 | themill | sbarcteam: that package is already building against python 2.6 for you -- you don't need to rebuild it to achieve that |
| 08:15.34 | moof2 | you could install debian without setting the network up... in that case, the installer will read the cd or dvd for the base and possibly other packages |
| 08:15.44 | Condenado_ | moof2 i think I know why it isn't working, the tarball doesn't have the firmware files. :| |
| 08:15.49 | sbarcteam | themill: so how to use the 2.6 one ? |
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| 08:16.06 | sbarcteam | are there several mod-wsgi-<version> in apache modules tree ? |
| 08:16.08 | moof2 | it doesn't? hmm, that could be a problem... |
| 08:16.09 | Condenado_ | which are b43/ucode5.fw and b43-open/ucode5.fw meh |
| 08:16.17 | themill | sbarcteam: yes |
| 08:16.27 | moof2 | is there an lspci on the installer? |
| 08:16.37 | Condenado_ | lemme see.. |
| 08:17.06 | jiohdi | http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-debian-using-ppa.html |
| 08:17.09 | Condenado_ | yea, broadcom corporation bcm4311 802.11a/b/g |
| 08:17.54 | moof2 | see if lspci -nn shows a thing looking like [qwer:1234] |
| 08:18.05 | sbarcteam | themill: will it be relinked back to 2.7 upon apt-get upgrade ? |
| 08:18.13 | Lachezar | jiohdi: Thanks, but we're moving away from Oracle's Java due to lack of support under FreeBSD (production site). |
| 08:18.28 | Condenado_ | 14e4:4312 |
| 08:18.31 | sbarcteam | themill: is there some a2* tool to link it in a "kosher" way ? |
| 08:18.34 | jiohdi | I have to do uploads to epa.gov and so far only that worked |
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| 08:19.24 | moof2 | themill, mind taking over with Condenado_? he's trying to get the firmware for his card, that's the pci id he just posted |
| 08:19.30 | themill | sbarcteam: you probably want to reinstall the debian package not your own package; once you upgrade to jessie, then yes you will have only python 2.7 (so you really need to fix your code here... not even having py2.6 in wheezy was the original plan) |
| 08:20.32 | themill | sbarcteam: there's no a2enmode thingy for you; just make a new /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/wsgi.load that loads the versioned .so instead of the unversioned one and put a note in your server maintainence log that this has to be changed for jessie. |
| 08:21.09 | sbarcteam | themill: got it :) I like your approach better than just relinking :) |
| 08:21.19 | themill | moof2: bcm :( |
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| 08:21.29 | Condenado_ | http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43_and_b43legacy bad news |
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| 08:30.54 | c00kiemon5ter | hello all |
| 08:31.20 | c00kiemon5ter | I seen to have been bitten by the "r8169 driver" problem :/ |
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| 08:32.16 | c00kiemon5ter | running 2.6.32-5-686 kernel everything is fine; updating to 3.2.0-4-686-pae I run into problems |
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| 08:35.01 | Iridos | did you install the firmware package needed for that? |
| 08:35.05 | Iridos | dpkg, realtek firmware |
| 08:35.05 | dpkg | Firmware from userspace is required by the <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192su>, <r8712u>, <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192de> and <rtl8192se> Linux kernel drivers. Firmware patches providing bug fixes for Realtek Ethernet controllers are also available. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-realtek package to provide. |
| 08:35.17 | Lachezar | sbarcteam: I feel weird: "apt-get install --no-install-recommends openjdk-7-jdk" installs only 10 packages, rather than 102!!! |
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| 08:35.44 | andre_pl | so, I'm having lots of fun with the upgrade. :) actually went fairly smoothly except for my radeonhd 67xx at first I was getting low-graphics-mode, and now after installing fglrx-driver i boot up to a blinking cursor. my Xorg.0.log is here: http://paste.debian.net/6787/ can anyone assist? |
| 08:35.45 | Iridos | c00kiemon5ter, ^^^ |
| 08:35.51 | c00kiemon5ter | I did, nothing changes for 3.2.0-4-686-pae, the problem presists |
| 08:35.56 | themill | Lachezar: you may well find that you need to manually install some of them later, but yes, that's a reasonable thing to do in that situation |
| 08:36.11 | c00kiemon5ter | in fact I get: platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: agent aborted loading radeon/R300_cp.bin (not found?) |
| 08:36.15 | c00kiemon5ter | [drm:r100_cp_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware! |
| 08:36.26 | c00kiemon5ter | http://sprunge.us/iAFj my dmesg |
| 08:37.01 | c00kiemon5ter | and some more info http://sprunge.us/DNZe |
| 08:37.02 | Iridos | that one is in firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 08:37.03 | Lachezar | themill: I'm OK with finding out 'missing' recommendations, but that's the amount of packages I was expecting... Is it reasonable to expect this to work? |
| 08:37.36 | c00kiemon5ter | so I should go for firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 08:37.52 | c00kiemon5ter | should I remove the realtek firmware ? |
| 08:38.34 | themill | Lachezar: depends what you mean by "work". Yes, that should be enough to compile most java things. |
| 08:39.01 | mutable_malachi | Uhg. |
| 08:39.06 | mutable_malachi | This upgrade is not going terrifically well. |
| 08:39.14 | Iridos | it'll only load the firmware it needs... so it shouldn't matter, except if you need firmware from both |
| 08:39.15 | mutable_malachi | "libc6 : Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.3-4) but 2.13-38 is installed" |
| 08:39.24 | Lachezar | themill: Fine by me :) 10x |
| 08:39.25 | mutable_malachi | apt-get -f install doesn't help. |
| 08:39.43 | Iridos | judd, versions libc-bin |
| 08:39.44 | judd | Package: libc-bin on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-3; sid: 2.17-3 |
| 08:39.52 | themill | c00kiemon5ter, Iridos: the r8169 module doesn't use any firmware that I know of. |
| 08:39.53 | mutable_malachi | Oooh. That's a new one. |
| 08:39.58 | mutable_malachi | I hadn't seen that bot before. |
| 08:40.01 | themill | mutable_malachi: can you pastebin the entire output pleas? |
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| 08:40.02 | themill | e |
| 08:40.07 | mutable_malachi | themill: yep, thank you. |
| 08:40.28 | mutable_malachi | http://pastebin.com/h9C80gU5 |
| 08:40.37 | themill | c00kiemon5ter, Iridos: oh.. I lie... it does use firmware-realtek |
| 08:40.40 | Iridos | themill, I guess then he's using another driver, else he wouldn't get the error message that it's missing (which seems in line that the firmware is not in the package one would think it is) |
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| 08:40.53 | Iridos | you lie! that's an outrage! |
| 08:40.58 | c00kiemon5ter | :P |
| 08:41.16 | themill | mutable_malachi: what does "aptitude install libc6" want to do? |
| 08:42.03 | mutable_malachi | themill: http://pastebin.com/Ndp24qHw |
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| 08:42.23 | mutable_malachi | I think this looks good. |
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| 08:42.33 | themill | mutable_malachi: ouch. Don't do that. Try "aptitude upgrade" |
| 08:42.54 | mutable_malachi | Uh-oh. |
| 08:43.15 | c00kiemon5ter | platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: agent loaded radeon/R300_cp.bin into memory |
| 08:43.17 | mutable_malachi | themill: http://pastebin.com/iSdTaFui |
| 08:43.22 | c00kiemon5ter | yay :) lets see how it hold now |
| 08:43.26 | Iridos | c00kiemon5ter, I wonder why it's trying to load radeon firmware? |
| 08:43.27 | themill | mutable_malachi: silly thing |
| 08:43.54 | mutable_malachi | --full-resolver means it has to go through the entire dependency tree, right? |
| 08:43.55 | Iridos | argh, I need coffee |
| 08:44.14 | themill | mutable_malachi: does "aptitude upgrade libc6 libc-dev-bin libc6-i686 libc6-dev" want to be sensible? |
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| 08:44.48 | mutable_malachi | themill: nope :( |
| 08:44.50 | mutable_malachi | Similar output. |
| 08:45.44 | themill | mutable_malachi: one of the things that usually helps this one is to add squeeze back into your sources.list, apt-get update and then try again with "apt-get -f install" "aptitude install" and the commands we've tried here. |
| 08:46.17 | themill | mutable_malachi: basically, there's no sure-fire way through this maze... but there's a series of things to try until you get a solution that's not utterly hideous and then you run with that. |
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| 08:46.53 | themill | (as long as it's not uninstalling things that are really crucial to being able to boot or install new packages, you can cope with lots of removals on the basis you can install them again afterwards) |
| 08:46.55 | mutable_malachi | themill: thank you. :) |
| 08:46.58 | mutable_malachi | I'll give it a shot. |
| 08:47.05 | themill | dpkg: tell mutable_malachi about squeeze->wheezy failures |
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| 08:47.13 | Iridos | c00kiemon5ter, I think you're mixing things up and I'm not awake enough to notice quickly. Are we talking about problems with ethernet/sound (realtek) or video (radeon) |
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| 08:47.53 | themill | mutable_malachi: you obviously can't do some of the removal things dpkg suggested there on libc, but you can do them on libc6-i686 and libc6-dev as that can help quite a bit here. |
| 08:48.13 | c00kiemon5ter | Iridos, yeah yeah, I am :P The ethernet has problems, we fixed the vga's need for firmware |
| 08:48.22 | mutable_malachi | themill: you rock. :) |
| 08:49.34 | Iridos | c00kiemon5ter, that doesn't seem to have problems... those are the lines starting with the one that goes http://sprunge.us/DNZe |
| 08:49.36 | Iridos | argh |
| 08:49.42 | Iridos | that goes [ 1.021040] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded |
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| 08:50.45 | Iridos | but you do get a lot of link down/link up messages lateron |
| 08:51.14 | Iridos | actually you do get the slowpath thing and then lots of eth0: link up |
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| 08:52.30 | mutable_malachi | themill: would you mind looking at a pastebin for me and seeing if the solution suggested will break anything mission critical? |
| 08:52.55 | mutable_malachi | http://pastebin.com/c6bPsdwM |
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| 08:53.17 | mutable_malachi | It looks nasty, but it doesn't include anything that I need on this box. I don't do development on here anymore. |
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| 08:53.57 | c00kiemon5ter | Iridos, right, in practice the net is frozen for a while, then resumes |
| 08:53.59 | Iridos | c00kiemon5ter, try to unload the r8169 module and load it again? I dunno looks like a real problem in the kernel module ... |
| 08:54.06 | mutable_malachi | Unless I missed something. There's always that chance. |
| 08:54.22 | c00kiemon5ter | I was also looking at this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611954 |
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| 08:56.34 | Iridos | you don't get "unable to apply firmware patch", so I don't think what you see is the same as the bug |
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| 08:58.11 | Iridos | (except if different things are described... still I don't see anything quoting the multiple "link up" message that you see) |
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| 08:59.33 | mutable_malachi | All right, be right back. Hopefully this works. |
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| 09:04.36 | Iridos | c00kiemon5ter, dunno... if the machine is still usable and you only have a short freeze on startup... I'd live with it, and install a newer kernel from backports some time later, see if that fixes it |
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| 09:05.17 | Iridos | there's no error message that I think is really characteristic for your problem only, so searching for bug reports is quite difficult |
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| 09:06.19 | Iridos | e.g. this looks similar https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1936581/ but happens only with a 3.8 kernel (i.e. *after* v3.7) |
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| 09:06.55 | Iridos | it might still be the same problem, if some security fix causes it that was backported to the debian kernel... |
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| 09:07.38 | Iridos | judd, kernels |
| 09:07.39 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8.5-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.8-2-686-pae (3.8.13-1); jessie: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.41-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
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| 09:07.58 | Iridos | hmm, sid has 3.8 |
| 09:08.23 | c00kiemon5ter | I may try a newer kernel - the older kernel had no problems |
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| 09:09.20 | Iridos | or keep using the older squeeze kernel with wheezy (supposing that works... easy enough to try as you can have multiple kernels installed and switch back to the newer one if it doesn't boot for some reason) |
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| 09:10.04 | Iridos | the squeeze one still will get 1 year of security patches... lots of time for problems to disappear (or get worse, of course) |
| 09:10.43 | c00kiemon5ter | another problem is the machine is an hour drive away and the lab administrator needs to be there for me to have access (to reboot the machine if it fails) |
| 09:11.30 | Iridos | well... then think up a couple of things you want to try that need access and try them all at once? |
| 09:11.59 | Iridos | also it's probably only useful searching for similar problems if you include the exact hardware in the search |
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| 09:12.29 | Iridos | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1139789 looks pretty similar... at least some of the descriptions |
| 09:13.01 | Iridos | I think people may be mix up several different problems there, anyway, they found no solution |
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| 09:13.36 | Iridos | .oO( 'buntu threads, *sigh* ) |
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| 09:14.39 | c00kiemon5ter | many people seem to suggest to blacklist r8169 and install the official Realtek driver |
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| 09:14.42 | c00kiemon5ter | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.43 | c00kiemon5ter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:14.55 | Corey | Smoove. |
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| 09:15.00 | Corey | c00kiemon5ter: Don't do that please. |
| 09:15.15 | c00kiemon5ter | sorry :/ wrong "paste" |
| 09:15.39 | c00kiemon5ter | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 (more ubuntu) |
| 09:15.44 | c00kiemon5ter | http://djlab.com/2010/10/fixing-rtl8111-8168b-driver-debian-ubuntu/ |
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| 09:16.11 | Iridos | well... obviously a completely different driver wouldn't have the same problem |
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| 09:17.51 | Iridos | dunno, never even knew there was a proprietary driver for those. the ones in the mainline kernel always worked well for me |
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| 10:05.44 | ronny | hi |
| 10:06.12 | ronny | whats the correct way to get recent versions of iceweasel/icedove on debian |
| 10:06.38 | ronny | some addons i use require a more recent version of the browser than availiable on debian |
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| 10:09.26 | sevenfourk | you can try iceweasel from unstable repo or use official version |
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| 10:10.40 | ksuhku | or change extension minversion |
| 10:11.27 | sevenfourk | yeah |
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| 10:11.44 | ezra-s | ronny, what I used to do is to ignore iceweasel version from debian and download firefox package from the web and install it in my home directory somewhere, that way I am always updated and rarely it has dependencies I don't meet, at least, that never happened to me. |
| 10:11.52 | sevenfourk | I do edit about:config to allow some sites use my testing iceweasel. |
| 10:11.58 | ronny | btw, is there any file telling what release a debian box is running on? |
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| 10:13.31 | c00kiemon5ter | cat /etc/*release* /etc/issue |
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| 10:16.53 | ChrisH_ | ronny: lsb_release -a |
| 10:17.48 | moof2 | technically, lsb-release -is- a file... |
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| 10:18.54 | c00kiemon5ter | yes, and the executable is not always there (not here at least) |
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| 10:20.24 | ChrisH | lsb_release -a does work for me, even: ls: cannot access /etc/lsb-release: No such file or directory |
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| 10:33.48 | MariusKarthaus | How do I mount a luks encrypted filesystem in a file as non-root user? The standard way requires me to set up the file as a loopback device, but as a non-root user I have no access to use /dev/loopN ? |
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| 10:41.27 | martin-fletcher | hey all |
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| 10:42.03 | martin-fletcher | i currently have an issue that is puzzling me regarding wifi drivers |
| 10:42.18 | moof2 | all-ball was a kitten owned by a gorilla that could sign |
| 10:42.35 | martin-fletcher | i ned to find what wifi drivers i need |
| 10:42.40 | martin-fletcher | any suggestions? |
| 10:42.46 | moof2 | lspci -nn |
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| 10:43.06 | moof2 | lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 10:43.15 | martin-fletcher | that picks up my usb wifi dongle, but i need to find the linksys pci card |
| 10:43.44 | moof2 | lspci should ignore usb, while lsusb should show that |
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| 10:44.22 | martin-fletcher | ok just ran lspci -nn | grep -i net, this has not shown the pci card |
| 10:44.24 | moof2 | apparantly someone did something they shouldn't :) |
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| 10:44.44 | moof2 | well |
| 10:44.53 | moof2 | you could examine the whole output |
| 10:45.02 | moof2 | lspci -nn | less |
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| 10:45.26 | martin-fletcher | ok it looks like i missed the output for the card |
| 10:45.36 | martin-fletcher | any suggestions on installing b43 drivers? |
| 10:45.54 | moof2 | umm, so you need firmware too |
| 10:46.08 | martin-fletcher | its a BCM4318 AirForce One 54G |
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| 10:46.13 | martin-fletcher | yeah |
| 10:46.49 | moof2 | http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43_and_b43legacy |
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| 10:46.54 | ksuhku | doesn't openfwwf handle bcm4318? |
| 10:47.19 | moof2 | does fwwf rhyme with stuff? |
| 10:47.54 | ksuhku | http://www.ing.unibs.it/~openfwwf/ |
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| 10:48.39 | petn-randall | Hi everyone, first day at work again, I found out one of our servers got rebooted. Is there a way to find out why? 'last' already told me that it was rebooted, but at that time no user was logged in to do it. |
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| 10:50.06 | petn-randall | kern.log shows nothing before the reboot, ditto syslog, messages, auth.log. Any ideas? |
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| 10:51.27 | h00ked | munin using too much CPU cores... its about 6-7 cores when generating reports... its last few days. It is possible, that munin consume CPU's time because there are too much, i think, mysql traffic? |
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| 10:52.13 | h00ked | and three new hard drives |
| 10:52.42 | martin-fletcher | thanks moof2, problem solved! |
| 10:52.46 | martin-fletcher | kudos! |
| 10:53.26 | moof2 | wubba! |
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| 10:54.09 | moof2 | solved? oh, cool :) |
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| 11:10.59 | talin | hello. why does debian allow the use of the freebsd kernel? |
| 11:11.25 | themill | why not? |
| 11:11.45 | talin | because it is extra work for the devs |
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| 11:12.27 | themill | talin: actually, getting software to work on architectures other than linux and i386 is a great way of shaking out other latent bugs |
| 11:12.50 | talin | i see |
| 11:13.09 | exarkun | I upgraded to wheezy rc2 and now icedove has this resizing ... bug ... that effectively makes it unusable. anyone use icedove and know what I'm talking about? |
| 11:13.18 | talin | but that was most likely not the reason why it was done in the first place? |
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| 11:14.38 | themill | talin: some people like the freebsd kernel more than the linux kernel |
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| 11:15.22 | talin | themill: ah, okay. |
| 11:15.39 | talin | themill: thanks for the explaining |
| 11:15.42 | talin | i'm new to debian |
| 11:16.21 | themill | btw choice of linux kernel vs freebsd kernel is an install time decision -- you don't get to change your mind later (except by reinstalling) |
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| 11:18.44 | talin | themill: ah, okay. i would go for the linux kernel anyway. i was just curious |
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| 11:21.23 | talin | more bazaar, less cathedral |
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| 11:50.49 | aelgate3 | Hello |
| 11:50.52 | aelgate3 | i have a problem |
| 11:51.24 | aelgate3 | i can't find where my phpmyadmin is ..i type that command ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin |
| 11:51.40 | aelgate3 | but when i put it it's has got a lot of folder of phpmyadmin www.newvisualway.com/phpmyadmin |
| 11:51.44 | aelgate3 | go to see how it show it to me |
| 11:51.57 | aelgate3 | btw my databases are working. I don't know what I did can't see phpmyadmin |
| 11:52.13 | ksk | are you using google translator? :/ |
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| 11:52.26 | ksk | did you install the phpmyadmin package? what did you to to break it? |
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| 11:53.38 | aelgate3 | maybe i remove it..i was trying to update it |
| 11:53.53 | aelgate3 | when i am going to install it back it says to me |
| 11:53.59 | aelgate3 | E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 11:57.30 | asteriskATmarmuD | hi guys, I'm on debian 7 and "find / -name pam_ldap.so" doesn't give me any result :( libpam-ldap:amd64 is installed. any hints? |
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| 12:03.02 | histo | asteriskATmarmuD: find / -name "pam_ldap.so" |
| 12:03.22 | histo | asteriskATmarmuD: or just use locate "pam_ldap" |
| 12:03.59 | asteriskATmarmuD | locate gives me "/etc/pam_ldap.conf" "/etc/pam_ldap.secret" |
| 12:04.58 | phogg | asteriskATmarmuD: after installation I find the library under /lib/, but then I am not using amd64 |
| 12:05.04 | ksk | aelgate3: keep talking in channel please. |
| 12:07.03 | histo | asteriskATmarmuD: then perhaps there is no pam_ldap.so |
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| 12:07.43 | ksk | dpkg -S $packagename |
| 12:07.44 | dpkg | There is no record of a $packagename package |
| 12:07.53 | ksk | tells you what files come with a package |
| 12:08.00 | ksk | erm, dpkg -L |
| 12:08.01 | asteriskATmarmuD | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.15 | asteriskATmarmuD | ksk: thx |
| 12:08.39 | histo | asteriskATmarmuD: dpkg -S pam_ldap.so |
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| 12:09.13 | asteriskATmarmuD | histo: "no path found matching pattern *pam_ldap.so*" |
| 12:10.05 | asteriskATmarmuD | ksk: "Package `libpam-ldap:amd64' does not contain any files (!)" |
| 12:11.01 | histo | asteriskATmarmuD: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=pam_ldap.so&mode=filename&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 12:11.42 | ksk | remove that :amd64 part, guess its a virtual package |
| 12:13.03 | asteriskATmarmuD | ksk: searched for libpam-ldap only |
| 12:13.22 | asteriskATmarmuD | histo: will reinstall both packages... |
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| 12:13.31 | asteriskATmarmuD | ksk: thx so for |
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| 12:13.37 | asteriskATmarmuD | histo: thx to you too |
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| 12:24.25 | TraindProUSA-ed | Reporting in. |
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| 12:24.29 | TraindProUSA-ed | 07:12 < Edufascistware> experiment: |
| 12:24.29 | TraindProUSA-ed | 07:12 < Edufascistware> #ubuntu-dev to: I trust my code because it's opensource |
| 12:24.29 | TraindProUSA-ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.29 | TraindProUSA-ed | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:24.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | sorry |
| 12:24.36 | TraindProUSA-ed | misclick |
| 12:24.38 | TraindProUSA-ed | rofl |
| 12:24.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | neway i have a question about wheezy |
| 12:24.49 | TraindProUSA-ed | neone here? |
| 12:25.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | i need help setting up RealVNC |
| 12:25.21 | TraindProUSA-ed | but i think selinux is blocking it. |
| 12:25.32 | KdgDev | wheezy has selinux? |
| 12:25.37 | TraindProUSA-ed | I put it on there. |
| 12:25.59 | TraindProUSA-ed | Is there any other security i know its not even vulnerable to virus as its linux |
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| 12:26.07 | TraindProUSA-ed | That would prevent me from remoting in? Its almost too secure hehe |
| 12:26.11 | TraindProUSA-ed | >< |
| 12:26.17 | TraindProUSA-ed | Good for my safety but not productivity. |
| 12:26.23 | TraindProUSA-ed | Oh well first world problems |
| 12:26.34 | KdgDev | i just googled it |
| 12:26.45 | KdgDev | I got 2 links that aren't relevant |
| 12:26.47 | TraindProUSA-ed | u think selinux is blocking? |
| 12:26.55 | KdgDev | and then after that "similar results" all with selinux removed |
| 12:26.59 | TraindProUSA-ed | is debian compatible with REALVNC |
| 12:27.00 | KdgDev | from the earch query |
| 12:27.11 | TraindProUSA-ed | are there some open source alternatives? |
| 12:27.24 | TraindProUSA-ed | i would rather use software made by people that care about me then corporations. |
| 12:27.36 | TraindProUSA-ed | Thats why i use Debian. |
| 12:27.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | The universal OS |
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| 12:28.13 | TraindProUSA-ed | runs chksfv on his morning updates |
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| 12:28.18 | TraindProUSA-ed | grins |
| 12:28.27 | TraindProUSA-ed | ahh, free at last. |
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| 12:28.33 | TraindProUSA-ed | Thank god. Fuck microshit. |
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| 12:28.43 | TraindProUSA-ed | proud debian user glad to be here saying thanks devs |
| 12:28.49 | TraindProUSA-ed | glad someone cares about me |
| 12:28.51 | TraindProUSA-ed | :) |
| 12:29.04 | TraindProUSA-ed | volunteer your time also |
| 12:29.07 | TraindProUSA-ed | amazing the kindness |
| 12:29.12 | TraindProUSA-ed | <3 |
| 12:29.14 | zeeflo | new to debian ? ;) |
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| 12:29.20 | TraindProUSA-ed | Yeaa |
| 12:29.25 | TraindProUSA-ed | i feel like i just got liberated from fascism |
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| 12:29.40 | TraindProUSA-ed | Its so refreshing. Open source... wow.. Derp. |
| 12:29.50 | TraindProUSA-ed | You guys are like the robin hood OS hehe |
| 12:29.58 | TraindProUSA-ed | maybe ill make a fork called robin hood edition |
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| 12:30.20 | TraindProUSA-ed | I started at ubuntu now im here. |
| 12:30.34 | KdgDev | yeah, all those great user permission errors |
| 12:30.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | Through the matrix. Arrival at source. |
| 12:30.36 | KdgDev | good stuff |
| 12:30.45 | KdgDev | :P |
| 12:30.47 | TraindProUSA-ed | yeah. at least it keeps the gov out or hackers |
| 12:30.52 | TraindProUSA-ed | ill sacrifice some usability |
| 12:30.55 | TraindProUSA-ed | for that |
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| 12:31.06 | KdgDev | you honestly believe that? |
| 12:31.06 | TraindProUSA-ed | just takes effort |
| 12:31.06 | TraindProUSA-ed | Umm |
| 12:31.09 | TraindProUSA-ed | Its open source. |
| 12:31.10 | KdgDev | If they *want* in, they'll get in |
| 12:31.12 | KdgDev | don't you worry |
| 12:31.16 | TraindProUSA-ed | Not in linux |
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| 12:31.23 | KdgDev | if they *really* want to, they'll manage |
| 12:31.28 | TraindProUSA-ed | how |
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| 12:31.33 | TraindProUSA-ed | the source code ies peer reviewd |
| 12:31.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | by trustworthy |
| 12:31.37 | TraindProUSA-ed | programmers |
| 12:31.40 | TraindProUSA-ed | with no other intentions |
| 12:31.48 | KdgDev | :P |
| 12:31.48 | TraindProUSA-ed | why would they get in bro ur paranoid |
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| 12:31.50 | apm1 | thats a fucking joke for anything but openBSD |
| 12:31.51 | TraindProUSA-ed | rofl |
| 12:31.59 | TraindProUSA-ed | chemtrails too right |
| 12:32.07 | TraindProUSA-ed | the gov can NOT get in linux. |
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| 12:32.12 | TraindProUSA-ed | the community would not allow it. |
| 12:32.21 | KdgDev | Not paranoid |
| 12:32.23 | KdgDev | realistic |
| 12:32.37 | TraindProUSA-ed | umm do you know what open source is bro |
| 12:32.40 | TraindProUSA-ed | lmao! |
| 12:32.41 | apm1 | TraindProUSA-ed, you have no idea what happens in the real world |
| 12:32.46 | TraindProUSA-ed | what? |
| 12:32.52 | KdgDev | Did you know that Windows employs several hundred people contributing to the linux kernel |
| 12:32.55 | KdgDev | just an example |
| 12:32.59 | KdgDev | microsoft |
| 12:33.00 | TraindProUSA-ed | So? |
| 12:33.03 | KdgDev | microsoft employs |
| 12:33.09 | KdgDev | windows is a product |
| 12:33.10 | TraindProUSA-ed | Open source equals human rights |
| 12:33.15 | TraindProUSA-ed | MS Is greedy |
| 12:33.19 | TraindProUSA-ed | they want to know their competition |
| 12:33.21 | TraindProUSA-ed | obv |
| 12:33.28 | TraindProUSA-ed | fuck em |
| 12:33.29 | ChrisH | !offtopic |
| 12:33.30 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 12:33.36 | TraindProUSA-ed | Yeah anyway |
| 12:33.37 | apm1 | TraindProUSA-ed, you honestly think every single line of code is reviewed before being merged into the tree ? |
| 12:33.45 | TraindProUSA-ed | its not??? |
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| 12:33.49 | TraindProUSA-ed | yeah i did |
| 12:33.50 | TraindProUSA-ed | think that.. |
| 12:33.55 | TraindProUSA-ed | is appalled |
| 12:33.58 | KdgDev | "Open source equals human rights" Sorry, how old are you? |
| 12:34.00 | TraindProUSA-ed | oface |
| 12:34.02 | TraindProUSA-ed | :O |
| 12:34.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | O_o |
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| 12:34.27 | apm1 | TraindProUSA-ed, /join #debian-offtopic |
| 12:34.28 | TraindProUSA-ed | did i just get a false sense of security because its sticking it to the man by sing linux |
| 12:34.33 | TraindProUSA-ed | i think i did. fuck |
| 12:34.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | blushes |
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| 12:35.03 | malachi_constant | OpenBSD does code review. |
| 12:35.09 | oo_miguel | hi |
| 12:35.09 | malachi_constant | I'm not sure about every line. |
| 12:35.16 | TraindProUSA-ed | wants to be a hacker for freedom. Program the way there. |
| 12:35.17 | malachi_constant | That's probably what you want if paranoid security is your thing. |
| 12:35.19 | v-fpiris | hey guys... anyone configured x with intel and nvidia cards on some machine? vga port is working. but laptop screen has nothing on it |
| 12:35.29 | TraindProUSA-ed | No, i'm not paranoid i just said u guys were |
| 12:35.32 | TraindProUSA-ed | and ur telling me i should be |
| 12:35.34 | TraindProUSA-ed | now ur saying i am |
| 12:35.36 | TraindProUSA-ed | what? |
| 12:35.37 | malachi_constant | Not necessarily. |
| 12:35.49 | oo_miguel | What do I need to select during kernel compilation to make my new kernel identify my pata controller and seagate harddisk: ST360012A . It works fine for my sata and usb drives, but this one is not identified by the new kernel, as opposed to my distros stock kernel... |
| 12:35.50 | TraindProUSA-ed | What should i believe |
| 12:35.57 | malachi_constant | Whatever you want. |
| 12:35.59 | TraindProUSA-ed | I want the os that is safest from keeping the gov out |
| 12:36.04 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell TraindProUSA-ed about offtopic |
| 12:36.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | openbsd? |
| 12:36.14 | moof2 | jeez looeez... |
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| 12:36.33 | moof2 | could ya lay off the enter key pls :) |
| 12:36.39 | TraindProUSA-ed | Roger that sir |
| 12:36.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | i mean yea |
| 12:36.44 | TraindProUSA-ed | haha |
| 12:36.47 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: I never had problems with PATA disks, they shoukd show up as hda. does dmesg show them. |
| 12:36.51 | TraindProUSA-ed | sry just got out of the marines proud vet |
| 12:36.52 | v-fpiris | are you guys fighting ? :D |
| 12:36.54 | TraindProUSA-ed | xd |
| 12:36.56 | TraindProUSA-ed | noo |
| 12:37.00 | malachi_constant | The Government already knows everything about you, Brendan. |
| 12:37.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | Duh. |
| 12:37.10 | TraindProUSA-ed | I did serve them bro. |
| 12:37.25 | oo_miguel | TraindProUSA-ed: in my current debian wheezy the pata drive show up as sdd |
| 12:37.25 | TraindProUSA-ed | But i learned they watch our computers when i was touring iraq |
| 12:37.37 | TraindProUSA-ed | and i dont like that aspect of them and wonder which os the hackers use |
| 12:37.37 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: i mean |
| 12:37.39 | TraindProUSA-ed | so they cant get caught |
| 12:37.41 | TraindProUSA-ed | ? |
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| 12:38.01 | TraindProUSA-ed | If youre american - please thank me by telling me which one. |
| 12:38.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | <3 |
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| 12:38.35 | malachi_constant | Many large organizations will monitor the computers of individual employees/contractors/peons. You don't really need to worry about that with a fresh install of any operating system. |
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| 12:38.47 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: the pata drive making problems shows up as sdd and I can find it in dmesg. however I can not boot my other kernel, because this is some linux from scratch I do have on the pata drive |
| 12:39.03 | malachi_constant | I am not concerned about the level of security provided by Debian (Or CentOS, or OpenBSD, or any other large and serious open source project). |
| 12:39.13 | TraindProUSA-ed | Ok, theoretical here |
| 12:39.18 | TraindProUSA-ed | I know hackers use linux and UNIX |
| 12:39.19 | oo_miguel | and itis not recognized by the other kernel, I m sure i missed something in the kernel config |
| 12:39.24 | oo_miguel | before compiling it |
| 12:39.26 | TraindProUSA-ed | What is generally the hacker os |
| 12:39.31 | TraindProUSA-ed | That keeps them from gettin gcaught |
| 12:39.33 | TraindProUSA-ed | like Lulzsec and shit. |
| 12:39.47 | TraindProUSA-ed | ive hard theres a backtracker os or something |
| 12:39.56 | TraindProUSA-ed | Just want the best choice i dont know this shitl |
| 12:39.57 | ChrisH | TraindProUSA-ed: What has all that to do with Debian support question? |
| 12:39.59 | ksk | erm, they get cought? and this is offtopic, move this talk there maybe |
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| 12:40.15 | TraindProUSA-ed | Because i wanted to know if debian is the rgiht choice for someone that want sto be safe online form gov |
| 12:40.24 | TraindProUSA-ed | I get that impression |
| 12:40.26 | TraindProUSA-ed | :) |
| 12:40.31 | TraindProUSA-ed | i mean ubuntu even uses it. |
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| 12:40.38 | no_gravity | Hello! I have a long delay when I do "ssh somehost" but no delay when I do "ssh ip_of_somehost". Any idea what I can do to solve this? |
| 12:40.38 | malachi_constant | I don't think it really works that way. The OS doesn't play into it too much. Debian would work fine, and does. The BSDs are fine too. You probably don't need to worry about that, though. |
| 12:40.43 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: can we start with the output from blkid to paste.debian.net please? |
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| 12:40.54 | TraindProUSA-ed | I'm not at all worried |
| 12:41.00 | TraindProUSA-ed | just wondering theoreticals |
| 12:41.04 | ChrisH | no_gravity: fix your DNS :) |
| 12:41.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | i wanna learn 2 be a hacker xd |
| 12:41.11 | TraindProUSA-ed | so would debian be a good place to start |
| 12:41.13 | TraindProUSA-ed | regadles? |
| 12:41.30 | TraindProUSA-ed | maybe that helps explain really what im asking, xd |
| 12:41.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | didnt wanna com eout n say but w/e |
| 12:41.35 | no_gravity | ChrisH: sure it is the dns? "dig somehost" comes back with the ip immediately. |
| 12:41.36 | moof2 | !enter |
| 12:41.36 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 12:41.41 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: allright, hang on |
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| 12:41.50 | ChrisH | no_gravity: or in other words... nslookup hostname is expected to take longer, too. |
| 12:41.58 | TraindProUSA-ed | hello guys |
| 12:42.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | cna u answer that last que thats all |
| 12:42.07 | TraindProUSA-ed | plz |
| 12:42.13 | no_gravity | ChrisH: I dont understand what you mean. |
| 12:42.20 | jelly | TraindProUSA-ed: this is primarily a tech support channel. Try ##linux or #debian-offtopic for conversational topics. |
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| 12:42.25 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/6823/ keep in mind that this is the output from my current running kernel, where everything works fine. |
| 12:42.38 | TraindProUSA-ed | All i want is you to answer this question. Is debian a good place to start for the aspiring black hat? |
| 12:42.49 | TraindProUSA-ed | I want to be a freedom fighter. |
| 12:42.52 | ChrisH | no_gravity: check "nslookup somehost" I would expect it takes longerm, too. |
| 12:42.56 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: the hard disk making problems is the /dev/sdd1 |
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| 12:43.08 | moof2 | you must take the journey yourself, because you must make all the decisions |
| 12:43.16 | TraindProUSA-ed | ahh |
| 12:43.17 | no_gravity | ChrisH: that also comes back with the ip immediately. |
| 12:43.24 | TraindProUSA-ed | yeah i guess i just gotta dig in xd |
| 12:43.40 | TraindProUSA-ed | was thinkin gtoo muc h thanx guys love ur support copmared to windows some robots indian shithead |
| 12:43.43 | TraindProUSA-ed | s |
| 12:43.43 | jelly | TraindProUSA-ed: you're on Freenode irc network, which explicitely forbids any illegal activity |
| 12:43.45 | TraindProUSA-ed | and it costs money haha |
| 12:43.52 | ChrisH | no_gravity: then run ssh -vvv somehost an check where it gets slowed down. |
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| 12:44.02 | TraindProUSA-ed | Im not discussing illegal activity but theoreticals. |
| 12:44.08 | TraindProUSA-ed | As I stated |
| 12:44.13 | RES401_ | TraindProUSA-ed: if you are switching from windows to linux, debian is my favorite... so yea DEBIAN!!! |
| 12:44.15 | TraindProUSA-ed | I'm a WASP |
| 12:44.26 | TraindProUSA-ed | ok XD |
| 12:44.29 | no_gravity | ChrisH: it hangs at "debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0" |
| 12:44.36 | moof2 | whatever. first, you would choose debian, or redhat, or bsd, or something |
| 12:44.50 | TraindProUSA-ed | redhat whats that sounds communisty |
| 12:44.55 | moof2 | the point is, what YOU choose, YOU commit to learning. |
| 12:44.56 | TraindProUSA-ed | refreshing sounding |
| 12:44.59 | jelly | !ops TraindProUSA-ed trollish noise |
| 12:44.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly complains about: TraindProUSA-ed trollish noise |
| 12:45.04 | moof2 | period. end. statement. |
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| 12:45.24 | RES401_ | TraindProUSA-ed: if you want to learn blackhat hacking stuff then grab backtrack, the latest is based on ubuntu, wich is based on debian |
| 12:45.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | Where can i get it safely, i dont trust newhere these days. |
| 12:46.00 | TraindProUSA-ed | sees whats going on |
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| 12:46.08 | RES401_ | TraindProUSA-ed: www.backtrack-linux.org |
| 12:46.14 | TraindProUSA-ed | grins smugly at his open source desktop |
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| 12:46.19 | TraindProUSA-ed | Suckers. |
| 12:46.24 | TraindProUSA-ed | Using windows xd |
| 12:46.38 | TraindProUSA-ed | thank you |
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| 12:46.54 | TraindProUSA-ed | what program do i use to run the iso? |
| 12:47.10 | moof2 | the thing is I recognize your phrases |
| 12:47.13 | TraindProUSA-ed | I'm actually in windows but. |
| 12:47.24 | TraindProUSA-ed | just thinking about the future. |
| 12:47.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | i know nothing about this shit |
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| 12:47.52 | ChrisH | no_gravity: a) is that somehost reachable from remote? b) what debian version do you run? lsb_release -d |
| 12:47.54 | TraindProUSA-ed | what you mean |
| 12:47.55 | alvwil | I'm trying to change my source list to Debian testing. I logged in as root and typed in /etc/apt/sources.list but the system came back with 'permission denied'. Why? |
| 12:48.06 | TraindProUSA-ed | RES401_ u there bro |
| 12:48.08 | no_gravity | ChrisH: sure it is reachable from remote |
| 12:48.10 | TraindProUSA-ed | how do i run the ISO file |
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| 12:48.27 | TraindProUSA-ed | and ur sure its not a malware |
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| 12:48.41 | tralala | TraindProUSA-ed, what iso file and why do you want to run it? |
| 12:48.45 | apm1 | alvwil, cause you didn't put a editor's before the path |
| 12:48.45 | krofna | I need help with port forwarding. I followed instructions to forward port on my router but it still doesn't work: Is firewall culprit? |
| 12:48.50 | moof2 | this is not the best place for that information |
| 12:48.50 | TraindProUSA-ed | Debian and Backtrack both downloading |
| 12:48.55 | TraindProUSA-ed | Ive never seen ISO though |
| 12:48.59 | TraindProUSA-ed | What program do i need |
| 12:49.02 | TraindProUSA-ed | or do i have it? |
| 12:49.08 | TraindProUSA-ed | Windows 8 pro ed |
| 12:49.10 | TraindProUSA-ed | 64 bits |
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| 12:49.16 | moof2 | how the fuck should I know what you have |
| 12:49.16 | krofna | TrainedProUSA-ed Try unetbootin |
| 12:49.18 | ChrisH | dpkg: pleas tell TraindProUSA-ed about enter |
| 12:49.18 | dpkg | wish i knew, ChrisH |
| 12:49.22 | alvwil | apm1: Thank you. How should I have typed the command? |
| 12:49.31 | TraindProUSA-ed | Unetbootin. ok. |
| 12:49.33 | tralala | TraindProUSA-ed, it's a file system for optical discs - you burn it on a CD/DVD/Bluray |
| 12:49.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | i can't run it inside windows? |
| 12:49.47 | TraindProUSA-ed | omg |
| 12:49.49 | TraindProUSA-ed | u mean |
| 12:49.50 | ChrisH | no_gravity: can you send me the hostname in private? |
| 12:49.51 | krofna | You can |
| 12:49.56 | TraindProUSA-ed | Holy shit it can replace it?? |
| 12:49.59 | apm1 | alvwil, nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:50.02 | no_gravity | ChrisH: no, sorry |
| 12:50.13 | TraindProUSA-ed | i thought linux was a program |
| 12:50.15 | TraindProUSA-ed | omg |
| 12:50.15 | alvwil | apm1: thankyou |
| 12:50.17 | tralala | TraindProUSA-ed, in case of the debian installer you can also write it to a usb stick |
| 12:50.20 | TraindProUSA-ed | u guys were trolling me |
| 12:50.30 | apm1 | alvwil, be sure to be root when you run that though |
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| 12:50.33 | TraindProUSA-ed | i know ms has deal with gov, |
| 12:50.34 | TraindProUSA-ed | xd |
| 12:50.36 | TraindProUSA-ed | not stupid |
| 12:50.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | no wonder hackers use linux |
| 12:50.45 | alvwil | apm1: will do. trying it know |
| 12:50.46 | TraindProUSA-ed | hehe |
| 12:50.48 | ChrisH | no_gravity: OK. no problem. But I am still sure its a DNS Issue. could be IPv4/IPv6 |
| 12:51.09 | moof2 | TraindProUSA-ed, that would be because I got less motivated to help you as you're untrainable since you don't listen |
| 12:51.20 | TraindProUSA-ed | I'm a bit of a backwoods country boy but Ive killed my share of terrorists and i aint no dumbass |
| 12:51.26 | TraindProUSA-ed | what |
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| 12:51.35 | TraindProUSA-ed | i was in the marines bro |
| 12:51.36 | Parhs8 | hi dudes .For my cakeday I'd like to share the most horrifying thing I've seen due to reddit. (NSFW) http://imgur.com/Fvt8G |
| 12:51.37 | TraindProUSA-ed | chill |
| 12:51.37 | ChrisH | just learn how to use /ignore |
| 12:51.42 | TraindProUSA-ed | im very trianable |
| 12:51.44 | TraindProUSA-ed | train* |
| 12:51.52 | alvwil | Is there any difference between the command sudo and su or su - |
| 12:51.55 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: did you have a look at the output of blkid concerning my pata drive problem /dev/sdd with the newly compiled kernel. This is the ouptut on the wokring kernel: http://paste.debian.net/6823 |
| 12:51.55 | TraindProUSA-ed | u dont know me bro |
| 12:52.03 | moof2 | nor do I want to |
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| 12:52.11 | TraindProUSA-ed | Good then. Have it your way burger king. |
| 12:52.20 | TraindProUSA-ed | liberates with linux |
| 12:52.30 | Bronze | alvwil: yes. sudo does one command su starts a whole new user session, or login (with option "-" |
| 12:52.32 | TraindProUSA-ed | Ascends to freedom |
| 12:52.33 | tralala | dpkg, confuse TraindProUSA-ed |
| 12:52.34 | dpkg | No, who was my gouda tomorrow, TraindProUSA-ed? Lederhosen of the Republic of Micronesia with extra cream. |
| 12:52.53 | TraindProUSA-ed | Gouda tomrorow? what does it mean? |
| 12:52.54 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: try `host hostname` (or `dig hostname` and `dig AAAA hostname`) and see if either of those have a big delay |
| 12:52.56 | alvwil | Bronze: thanks :) |
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| 12:53.05 | TraindProUSA-ed | I dont udnerstand cryptic shit |
| 12:53.06 | apm1 | alvwil, yes sudo is a temprory measure to gain privileges for said user and su is "switch user" |
| 12:53.13 | TraindProUSA-ed | havent learned that shit |
| 12:53.29 | tralala | TraindProUSA-ed, don't worry it's all in the iso file |
| 12:53.33 | moof2 | no marines for you then :) |
| 12:53.37 | alvwil | so if I type su I will retain root privileges |
| 12:53.37 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: if not, double-check that all returned IPs are pingable |
| 12:53.37 | h00ked | thanks to ChrisH to idea :) |
| 12:53.39 | no_gravity | Dagger2: AAAA hangs. the others come back immediately. |
| 12:53.39 | apm1 | alvwil, its just that if you type just "su" it defaults to "su root" |
| 12:53.56 | h00ked | for idea... damn :D |
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| 12:54.01 | TraindProUSA-ed | I've done my tour. |
| 12:54.04 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: there you go then. fix your DNS server/lookups |
| 12:54.12 | TraindProUSA-ed | And yes. Thank god, getting rid of this gov windows BS |
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| 12:54.20 | no_gravity | Dagger2: how? |
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| 12:54.23 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: I am still not shure if I got all. you have a debian installation and eg. grub installs from Debian does not put the LFS installation on sdd1 in the menu? |
| 12:54.26 | apm1 | alvwil, if you type su and enter the root password you will have root privlages until you close the terminal |
| 12:54.28 | TraindProUSA-ed | would u guys say i should install first linux or backtrack? |
| 12:54.34 | TraindProUSA-ed | which iso for learning to start? |
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| 12:54.44 | TraindProUSA-ed | im ready to spend a lo t of time |
| 12:54.52 | TraindProUSA-ed | I wanna learn this shit. |
| 12:54.54 | alvwil | apm1: thank you that cleard it up for me |
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| 12:55.02 | zeeflo | ChrisH: I needed you yesterday!! ;( |
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| 12:55.15 | Bronze | TraindProUSA-ed: start with the "mint" ISO. see ##mint |
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| 12:55.30 | TraindProUSA-ed | oh well ill just break out of the windows matrix with debiann.. ummm.. omg im already downloading mint and backtrack! |
| 12:55.32 | ChrisH | zeeflo: I was otherwise occupied. Ham Radio activities :) |
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| 12:55.48 | TraindProUSA-ed | >< |
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| 12:55.50 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: good question. does `dig AAAA google.com` hang? what about `dig AAAA google.com @8.8.8.8` (assuming you're allowed to access 8.8.8.8 from where you are...) |
| 12:55.52 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: my newly compiled kernel just does not recognize the pata drive /dev/sdd where I put my lfs root |
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| 12:56.00 | Bronze | ChrisH: . . . - - - . . . !!!! |
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| 12:56.08 | zeeflo | Hehe thats cool ChrisH |
| 12:56.08 | TraindProUSA-ed | omg stop i Q |
| 12:56.10 | TraindProUSA-ed | ! |
| 12:56.13 | alvwil | apm1: that worked, thank you |
| 12:56.15 | TraindProUSA-ed | it*!\ |
| 12:56.20 | apm1 | alvwil, :) |
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| 12:56.28 | no_gravity | Dagger2: yes, AAAA always hangs. ISPs here dont provide ipv6. |
| 12:56.34 | TraindProUSA-ed | open source community these admins are bullying me. |
| 12:56.38 | TraindProUSA-ed | can we have a vote to ban? |
| 12:56.43 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: Are you using LFS or Debian? |
| 12:56.48 | TraindProUSA-ed | xD |
| 12:56.52 | TraindProUSA-ed | kids |
| 12:56.53 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: nevertheless, DNS lookups of any record type should work |
| 12:56.55 | TraindProUSA-ed | <3 |
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| 12:57.04 | moof2 | aww :) (wait till you find out what it REALLY is...) |
| 12:57.07 | TraindProUSA-ed | they called me the Joker in tha corps. |
| 12:57.16 | TraindProUSA-ed | Cause id laugh while i fired the SAW |
| 12:57.20 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: if they're hanging, it's not because the ISP doesn't do v6, but because something is broken |
| 12:57.21 | TraindProUSA-ed | ;) |
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| 12:57.25 | tralala | TraindProUSA-ed, I bet it was the "Joke" |
| 12:57.28 | ChrisH | Bronze: I am not allowed to use this and other emercency sequences. |
| 12:57.33 | no_gravity | Dagger2: so now what? |
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| 12:57.40 | TraindProUSA-ed | Well i was just laughing these dumbasses had towels on their heads |
| 12:57.44 | TraindProUSA-ed | but thats hot iw tstarted |
| 12:57.46 | Bronze | ChrisH: :-) |
| 12:57.46 | TraindProUSA-ed | it started* |
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| 12:57.48 | TraindProUSA-ed | xdd |
| 12:57.58 | TraindProUSA-ed | not really carazy u know |
| 12:58.07 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: I am currently on Debian, but the kernel not working is LFS |
| 12:58.18 | oo_miguel | I compiled in on debian however :P |
| 12:58.30 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: does the @8.8.8.8 version also hang? |
| 12:58.32 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: Then you need to ask the LFS support. |
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| 12:58.52 | oo_miguel | ChrisH: ok thcx |
| 12:58.53 | tralala | oo_miguel, why would you install LFS kernel on debian instead of backports or mainline? |
| 12:59.18 | oo_miguel | tralala: I did not install the lfs kernel on debian. I just build the lfs system with debian |
| 12:59.29 | no_gravity | Dagger2: @8.8.8.8 immediately returns the ip of google |
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| 13:00.08 | tralala | oo_miguel, then ChrisH is right - you need the LFS support |
| 13:00.09 | moof2 | little wonder... that's googles dns |
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| 13:00.36 | alvwil | Can any one point me to a how to guide on switching to testing via the terminal |
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| 13:01.03 | Dagger2 | moof2: it's a public recursive DNS server, it'll give results for any domain |
| 13:01.29 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: including for the AAAA query? so it must be your original server that's broken, rather than something on your system or in between |
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| 13:01.37 | tralala | alvwil, what's "switching to testing via the terminal"? |
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| 13:01.40 | apm1 | alvwil, as a debian user of 6 years , believe me when i say "if you have to ask , please don't " |
| 13:01.41 | moof2 | understood... and, it's owned by? |
| 13:01.46 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: in which case, contact the admins and get them to fix it |
| 13:02.25 | tralala | alvwil, oh do you mean upgrading to debian testing? |
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| 13:03.26 | no_gravity | Dagger2: as i said, isps in germany dont give a shit about ipv6. even the biggest dont support it. |
| 13:03.48 | no_gravity | Dagger2: im trying to add "blacklist ipv6" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf... |
| 13:04.06 | apm1 | bbl |
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| 13:04.13 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: they don't need to give a shit about v6. they do, however, need to give a shit about DNS |
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| 13:05.02 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: well, ok, they do need to give a shit about v6... but it's not necessary for AAAA queries to work. those should work all the time, regardless of having v6 or not |
| 13:05.15 | Bronze | alvwil: minor point: You probably meant "testing in the shell" Please don't say terminal when you mean shell. The "terminal" is software that emulates an old bit of hardware. You are using the shell, probabbly the bash shell. Bash is a deep and useful thing and mastering it is one of the things you must accomplish on your journey to competence in debian. Step 1 is to undertstand what it is and call it by its correct name. :) |
| 13:05.20 | no_gravity | Dagger2: do i need to restart the machine to get the blacklist active? |
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| 13:05.50 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: probably, but I really do advise either fixing the server or switching to a server that works |
| 13:06.28 | no_gravity | Dagger2: fixing sounds much slower then just disabling ipv6. |
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| 13:06.32 | no_gravity | rebooting... |
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| 13:08.30 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 |
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| 13:08.54 | no_gravity | OpenTokix: on the command line? |
| 13:08.55 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: is the easiest, add to /etc/sysctl.conf and it will persist thru reboot. |
| 13:08.58 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: yes, as root |
| 13:09.09 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: That command let you turn on and off ipv6 as you please. |
| 13:09.14 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: it's not when you factor in the time spent going "why isn't my IPv6 working?" 3 years down the line |
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| 13:10.06 | no_gravity | one moment...rebooting again.... |
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| 13:10.23 | Iridos | err |
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| 13:12.19 | no_gravity | Unfortunately neither the sysctl command nor my addition to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.con solved it. |
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| 13:12.34 | no_gravity | So Im resorting to ssh -4 for now. |
| 13:12.47 | no_gravity | Thank you very much for you help everybody! |
| 13:13.49 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: can you switch to ordns.he.net or Google's DNS? or run e.g. unbound locally? that ought to fix it |
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| 13:14.29 | no_gravity | Dagger2: probably. but i dont want to give google information about every host i contact. |
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| 13:14.51 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: same, hence the suggestion of HE's servers or your own |
| 13:15.18 | no_gravity | Dagger2: i dont know he |
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| 13:15.47 | no_gravity | Dagger2: prefer to stay with the system that dns is the same as isp |
| 13:16.36 | Dagger2 | no_gravity: even when they're broken? |
| 13:16.56 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: Put up a local dns-server for cache on your own machine and then use googles public dns:es |
| 13:17.03 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: will give you speed and accuarcy |
| 13:17.08 | mnuhmnuh | no_gravity: whois 74.82.42.42 |
| 13:17.34 | Cyclohexane | accuracy? lol |
| 13:17.36 | no_gravity | well, ssh -4 works fine for now. |
| 13:17.41 | no_gravity | thanks everybody! have to go! |
| 13:17.44 | OpenTokix | no_gravity: The machine still have ipv6-address after you did the sysctl? |
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| 13:21.14 | abrotman | it's a boottime kernel option now AFAIK |
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| 13:24.37 | boudiccas | when a $USER logs in after a reboot, does the machine also run $ROOT crontab please? I've written a script for root at reboot, it runs as $ROOT from my desktop, but doesn’t appear to run as root during bootup |
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| 13:25.07 | sbarcteam | thanks, themill |
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| 13:26.37 | abrotman | boudiccas: sounds like a problem with your script |
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| 13:26.50 | boudiccas | hmmm |
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| 13:28.04 | boudiccas | does this sound doable please? '@reboot /home/boudiccas/cron/usb.sh' in roots crontab |
| 13:28.19 | petn-randall | boudiccas: What is "$ROOT" for you in this context? |
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| 13:28.43 | boudiccas | petn-randall, super-user |
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| 13:29.18 | petn-randall | boudiccas: So you mean "root", not "$ROOT", right? |
| 13:29.19 | boudiccas | petn-randall, god, or the nearest to it, an orthopaedic consultant |
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| 13:29.33 | boudiccas | petn-randall, yes, wrong terminology |
| 13:29.57 | OpenTokix | I just sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 will disable ipv6 on wheezy |
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| 13:30.05 | petn-randall | boudiccas: Sorry for being pedantic, just making sure it wasn't a placeholder for something. |
| 13:30.06 | OpenTokix | confirmed |
| 13:30.12 | OpenTokix | oh, he left |
| 13:30.26 | boudiccas | petn-randall, no problem, my bad for wrong confusing terminology |
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| 13:33.43 | Starthunder | Can I upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy without rebooting? |
| 13:34.06 | abrotman | not fully |
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| 13:35.38 | malachi_constant | You won't have a newer kernel. |
| 13:35.45 | petn-randall | Starthunder: You have to reboot once to boot into the new kernel. |
| 13:36.04 | petn-randall | Starthunder: Though you can skip that step if you want :) |
| 13:36.23 | mnuhmnuh | Starthunder: some things may disappear/be replaced by newer |
| 13:36.27 | Starthunder | Mmm…I recall someone mentioning a way to switch to a new kernel without rebooting? |
| 13:36.43 | ksk | Starthunder: kexec |
| 13:37.07 | ksk | !tell Starthunder about kexec |
| 13:37.09 | themill | kexec only skips the bootloader, not the boot |
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| 13:37.37 | ksk | true that. |
| 13:37.39 | h00ked | munin using too much CPU cores... its about 6-7 cores when generating reports... its last few days. It is possible, that munin consume CPU's time because there are too much, i think, mysql traffic? and there are three new hard drives, but, before this changes, munin using max about a half one core... |
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| 13:38.24 | Starthunder | Well…basically I'm trying to avoid having to shut down my IRCd :) |
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| 13:41.57 | boudiccas | this is the script http://dpaste.com/1201192/ along with the results of two commands. what i'm trying to do is to mount the usb devices without unplugging and plugging them. is there a better way please? |
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| 13:43.47 | petn-randall | boudiccas: 1) Why don't you use /etc/fstab to mount usbfs? 2) Your script is mangled, there's a trailing "fi". |
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| 13:44.27 | boudiccas | petn-randall, [1] never thought of it, [2] easily solved :) |
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| 13:47.04 | petn-randall | boudiccas: Ah, ok. The standard way of mounting things is /etc/stab, any filesystem that's not hot-pluggable. :). |
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| 13:47.34 | drasko | hi all, I use dhclient to obtain my IP address, but it does not enter default gateway in the route |
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| 13:50.30 | boudiccas | petn-randall, ? /etc/stab? and NOT fstab? |
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| 13:51.50 | boudiccas | petn-randall, a typoe, there is no 'stab' just 'fstab' |
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| 13:52.40 | JordiGH | In the installer, the log in tty 4.... is there another way to view it? |
| 13:52.56 | JordiGH | I'm having trouble with the installation. For some reason, the initrd it creates can't find my encrypted partitions. |
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| 13:54.00 | cusco | hi.. |
| 13:54.15 | cusco | when I dowload afile in chromium, clicking on it does not open it... |
| 13:54.18 | cusco | what am I missing? |
| 13:56.15 | mayhew | What type of file? |
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| 13:56.28 | cusco | any |
| 13:56.38 | cusco | .txt for instance |
| 13:56.41 | mnuhmnuh | cusco: right-click? |
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| 13:57.57 | cusco | right-click - show in folder |
| 13:58.02 | cusco | does not open nautilus neither |
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| 14:00.16 | JordiGH | Doesn't Chromium display .txt in the browser? Iceweasel usually does. |
| 14:00.48 | apm1 | it does here |
| 14:00.55 | cusco | it does |
| 14:01.05 | cusco | but I can rightclick a alink and download it |
| 14:01.10 | cusco | I mean.. it opens no file |
| 14:01.20 | cusco | do I need some package or so.. ? |
| 14:01.33 | JordiGH | Chromium should open the file when you right-click save it? |
| 14:01.50 | mnuhmnuh | cusco: it dl's to your dl place. open it from there? |
| 14:02.02 | JordiGH | cusco: Does "xdg-open lol.txt" work from a shell? |
| 14:02.04 | cusco | for that I need to open nautilus |
| 14:02.10 | cusco | takes time in this old laptop :p |
| 14:02.22 | SKYLAKE-10nm | it is a managable behavoiur of chromium, generally it opens them |
| 14:02.23 | JordiGH | I'm guessing Chromium must be trying to do xdg-open. |
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| 14:02.51 | SKYLAKE-10nm | like php you have to tell chrmoium what to do , to "execute" or to download it |
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| 14:05.07 | abrotman | not like php at all |
| 14:05.43 | mnuhmnuh | abrotman: was wondering ... |
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| 14:08.44 | cusco | JordiGH: but I have xdg-open |
| 14:10.54 | JordiGH | So for some reason, while configuring man-db, dpkg (I think?) complains about how file descriptors were leaked on lvdisplay invocatio. |
| 14:11.13 | JordiGH | I wonder if this is related to why this thing can't install an initrd that can decrypt my hd. |
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| 14:15.34 | gadago | hi does anyone know how to add a default gateway to an interface that doesn't have an IP address? i.e. iface eth0 inet manual |
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| 14:19.25 | JordiGH | Ah, /var/log/syslog is where the installer writes its stuff. |
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| 14:20.41 | JordiGH | Hm, there are Perl warnings about ininitialised $template and $item files while creating /etc/default/grub... I wonder if this is related to why the installer can't write a good grub config or initrd. |
| 14:20.50 | mnuhmnuh | gadago: ought to be automatic. see /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, /etc/network/interfaces, nm-applet |
| 14:21.02 | JordiGH | I can't believe I'm debugging debinst on a release. :-( |
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| 14:21.54 | JordiGH | #696877 |
| 14:22.00 | JordiGH | That seems to be my bug... |
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| 14:25.02 | JordiGH | Huh!? |
| 14:25.05 | JordiGH | This bug is still open! |
| 14:25.11 | JordiGH | wheezy shipped with an RC bug? |
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| 14:25.35 | themill | JordiGH: sure |
| 14:25.52 | JordiGH | I guess it has to ship some day... |
| 14:25.59 | themill | it's also not RC... |
| 14:26.06 | JordiGH | I can't install wheezy. :-( |
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| 14:26.09 | JordiGH | Shouldn't this be RC? |
| 14:26.15 | themill | why? |
| 14:26.23 | JordiGH | My system is left unbootable. |
| 14:26.24 | themill | Surely you know the severity definitions by now… |
| 14:26.36 | JordiGH | I guess it doesn't affect enough people to raise the severity. |
| 14:26.42 | boudiccas | can i mount my usb keyboard an dmouse with fstab please? if so, how? i've never seen it done before |
| 14:26.59 | themill | boudiccas: you don't mount a keyboard or mouse |
| 14:27.13 | JordiGH | boudiccas: fstab is for *f*ile *s*ystems. A keyboard and mouse is neither. |
| 14:27.32 | JordiGH | now tries to read the report to look for a workaround. |
| 14:27.43 | boudiccas | themill, how then do i get them so they can be used, currently i have to unplug/replug them back in again, and i want to automate it as faras possible |
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| 14:29.12 | JordiGH | Ah, table, right? fstab = file system table. |
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| 14:29.55 | petn-randall | JordiGH: Workaround is to pull out the USB stick and run the grub install step again. |
| 14:30.18 | petn-randall | boudiccas: Yes, /etc/fstab. Don't stab anyone ;) |
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| 14:30.44 | JordiGH | petn-randall: But the USB is mounted! |
| 14:31.01 | JordiGH | I suppose I umount it first... |
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| 14:31.34 | boudiccas | hmmm themill says you cant mount keyboard/mouse, JordiGH says fstab is only for files, petn-randall says yes, use fstab !!!!!!!!!!!!! so whos right, and what doi i do about it? |
| 14:31.49 | JordiGH | boudiccas: Nobody said you should use fstab. |
| 14:32.13 | JordiGH | boudiccas: We all agree that you don't use fstab, and that you don't mount keyboards or mice. |
| 14:32.14 | boudiccas | JordiGH, please look again at what petn-randall said to me, he did |
| 14:32.33 | JordiGH | boudiccas: I think he was talking to me, expanding my acronym and making a joke about stabbing. |
| 14:32.43 | themill | boudiccas: no, he didn't, actually. |
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| 14:34.28 | boudiccas | okay then. but how do i get my usb keyboard & mouse to operate at the greeter from lightdm please? because at that point i have to unplug/replug them in before they will work |
| 14:35.42 | petn-randall | boudiccas: I never said you can mount keyboard/mouse with /etc/fstab! I simply corrected my typo from earlier, which you asked about. |
| 14:35.48 | JordiGH | boudiccas: So the problem is that when you plug in the usb things and boot, they are not recognised until you unplug them and unplug them? |
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| 14:36.37 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: list usbhid, usbcore ,in /etc/modules |
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| 14:36.50 | boudiccas | JordiGH, yes, i boot, and at the lightdm greeter i have to unplug/replug before they can be used. all usb external frives are now mounted via fstab |
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| 14:37.49 | boudiccas | drives |
| 14:39.03 | JordiGH | boudiccas: Using fstab for removable media is kind of weird. |
| 14:39.12 | JordiGH | Kinda old-fashioned. |
| 14:39.51 | xand | not if you want things to be ... consistent |
| 14:40.01 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, you'll have to explain further please as i know nothing about /etc/modules, and they dont show in the directories tree |
| 14:40.02 | xand | as in, specific disks mounted somewhere specific |
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| 14:42.00 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: /etc/modules is for forcing kernel modules to be inserted at boot. *my* usb stuff is autodetected. don't know why yours aren't. |
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| 14:43.04 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, me neither, they lost that ability several days ago, possibly during a powercut, not sure |
| 14:43.23 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: btw, i'm on wheezy, soon to upgrade to jessie/testing. |
| 14:43.41 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, ditto |
| 14:44.21 | boudiccas | the only place i can find 'usbcore' is '/lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae/kernel/drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko' |
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| 14:45.06 | boudiccas | guess i'll go a googling |
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| 14:45.34 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: modprobe usbcore? lsmod? |
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| 14:47.31 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, thanks, but they're both already mounted in kernel ...'usbcore 104555 5 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,usb_storage,usbhid usb_common 12338 1 usbcore' |
| 14:47.53 | boudiccas | i just did sudo lsmod |
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| 14:49.16 | JordiGH | boudiccas: "Mounted" is only for filesystems. |
| 14:49.17 | mtn | boudiccas: if it worked a few days ago and now it doesn't, you need to figure out what changed. |
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| 14:49.50 | boudiccas | mtn, the only thing that i'm aware has changed is that i deleted the DE of MATE from my machine |
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| 14:50.10 | boudiccas | using 'apt-get remove mate' |
| 14:50.17 | mtn | boudiccas: sounds like a good place to start |
| 14:50.23 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: usb is old tech by now. ought to be autohandled these days. serial mice == dodo. |
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| 14:51.18 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: mate irrelevant. this's lower level system device stuff, not ui. |
| 14:51.48 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, thats the only major change, apart from the powercut |
| 14:52.04 | mtn | boudiccas: power outage isnt' responsible |
| 14:52.29 | mtn | boudiccas: tinkering with the system almost certainly is the problem |
| 14:52.31 | boudiccas | mtn, then i dont know what is responsible for the loss of usb hotplugging |
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| 14:52.58 | mtn | boudiccas: neither do we! :p |
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| 14:54.26 | mekeor | can you use "ubuntu PPAs" under debian? O.o – i want to install "Pantheon Files" which is unavailable on debians (official) repos and it's also hard to install manually. |
| 14:54.38 | themill | no |
| 14:54.52 | mekeor | okay. |
| 14:54.53 | JordiGH | mekeor: Not at all recommended. |
| 14:55.04 | themill | mekeor: you can grab the *source* package from the PPA and compile it for Debian and it *might* work out ok. |
| 14:55.07 | JordiGH | mekeor: It might "work" in some cases, or appear to work, until when it doesn't. |
| 14:55.23 | mekeor | hm, i see. |
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| 14:56.33 | Han | I've tried a new version of xorg, didn't like it and reinstalled the old version of xorg. But I realise I missed removing a few packages. How can I elegantly downgrade those packages? |
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| 14:57.45 | mekeor | so, i'm trying to install "pantheon files" at the moment. the problem is that it depends on libgranite. i installed libgranite-dev (by downloading a .deb) (and libgranite0 which libgranite-dev depended on). but i still get the following error: http://hpaste.org/88695 |
| 14:57.59 | harrison | re: <JordiGH> boudiccas: We all agree that you don't use fstab, and that you don't mount keyboards or mice. |
| 14:58.19 | harrison | "said the famous french novelist, Proust |
| 14:58.34 | harrison | when asked why he buggered a mouse -- |
| 14:58.51 | harrison | "ze c*** ees quite tiny |
| 14:59.04 | harrison | but sometimes ze heiny |
| 14:59.11 | themill | harrison: wrong channel? |
| 14:59.16 | Armand | O.o |
| 14:59.24 | harrison | will ztretch quite as big as a house!" |
| 14:59.40 | harrison | wong channel lol |
| 14:59.42 | harrison | exactly |
| 14:59.51 | boudiccas | right, i did try to install a printer [usb] which wasnt seen by the machine, so its going back for a refund |
| 14:59.52 | harrison | wrong channel |
| 14:59.54 | Armand | wat wong wit yoo? |
| 15:00.17 | mekeor | just wants a GOD DAMN file browser with miller columns (for (debian) linux)!!! |
| 15:00.29 | harrison | well, i didn't start the mousemounting talk |
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| 15:00.49 | Armand | Well, ya sure as hell finished it. O.o |
| 15:00.58 | Armand | Now, begone! |
| 15:01.29 | harrison | k no more of that then |
| 15:01.32 | Armand | lol |
| 15:01.52 | harrison | i shall be as quiet as a ----- |
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| 15:02.08 | Armand | horse ? |
| 15:02.14 | Armand | Dang, sorry guys.. |
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| 15:02.56 | avox | Who will shave my mole, for the lies that it told? |
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| 15:05.29 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: my printer (HP DJ4160) is usb. works. |
| 15:06.26 | mnuhmnuh | mekeor: "miller" columns? |
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| 15:07.16 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, this is a hp deskjet 1050 j410 which isnt seen by 'lsusb' |
| 15:07.21 | Cultist | What might cause a directory to suddenly be empty, without deleting anything inside? |
| 15:07.26 | Cultist | apparently empty, that is. |
| 15:07.44 | Cultist | permissions are 777 and neither root nor owner can see anything |
| 15:08.01 | mnuhmnuh | boudiccas: could be 'cause usb is fscked. |
| 15:08.11 | jhutchins_wk | Cultist: If it's actually a link or a mount point and is unlinked or unmounted, or if the user does not have permissions to read it. |
| 15:08.20 | EasyAsPie | hi |
| 15:08.24 | mekeor | mnuhmnuh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_columns |
| 15:08.25 | Cultist | it's a mountpoint, but it is mounted |
| 15:08.28 | mekeor | EasyAsPie: hi :) |
| 15:08.31 | boudiccas | mnuhmnuh, could well be. but in that case how do i correct it and get it working propelry? |
| 15:08.38 | EasyAsPie | how r u? |
| 15:08.57 | mekeor | mnuhmnuh: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/GNUstep-liveCD.png → similar to mac os's finder column view mode ;) |
| 15:09.21 | phogg | rather they are both based on NeXT's file manager |
| 15:09.23 | jhutchins_wk | Cultist: Either it's not as mounted as you think it is, or you don't have permissions. |
| 15:09.27 | ksk | guess you deleted something Cultist |
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| 15:09.55 | mekeor | phogg: so? |
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| 15:10.18 | jhutchins_wk | Cultist: I presume you're using a GUI file manager? |
| 15:10.24 | Cultist | ssh |
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| 15:13.59 | JordiGH | Huh, grub seems to be trying to open Iris-root and then says "no such disk". That's the name of the LLVM encrypted volume. |
| 15:14.13 | JordiGH | i.e. /dev/Iris/root |
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| 15:15.50 | mnuhmnuh | JordiGH: is Iris-root your / (root) filesystem? |
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| 15:17.41 | JordiGH | mnuhmnuh: Aye. |
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| 15:18.09 | Wulf | Hi |
| 15:18.23 | mnuhmnuh | JordiGH: guessing ... edit grub boot line supplying pword to mount it? |
| 15:18.23 | mekeor | hi Wulf :) |
| 15:18.35 | Wulf | What is the correct way to have a static configuration in /etc/resolv.conf if the resolvconf package is installed? |
| 15:18.46 | Wulf | my system keep's changing my resolv.conf |
| 15:18.47 | JordiGH | mnuhmnuh: Sorry, this is grub-probe that is complaining. I'm trying to install Debian. I chrooted into /target during the install. |
| 15:19.05 | Wulf | I could of course use chattr +i or similar, but there must be a more correct way |
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| 15:21.21 | mnuhmnuh | Wulf: dhcp? |
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| 15:24.09 | Wulf | mnuhmnuh: yes, the machine is using a dhcp client |
| 15:24.22 | Wulf | but I don't want my resolv.conf to ever change |
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| 15:24.35 | Wulf | it's not a mobile computer |
| 15:24.47 | mumpitzel | either set a dhcp option or chattr +i your resolv.conf file |
| 15:25.05 | Wulf | okay, it's chattr then. Thanks |
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| 15:25.19 | boudiccas | how about if i remove 'udev', then immeditaly do an install of 'udev', reboot an djust hope and pray that it corrects the usb problems? |
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| 15:26.07 | mtn | Wulf: this might help, too: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Resolv.conf#Write-protect_.2Fetc.2Fresolv.conf |
| 15:26.08 | ksk | iirc everything explodes if you remove udev ;) |
| 15:26.20 | Wulf | boudiccas: what is your problem? |
| 15:26.36 | boudiccas | ksk, thats why i'm asking here first before i attmept it |
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| 15:27.24 | boudiccas | Wulf, borked/fscked usb not recognising things when theyre plugged in at reboot, have to unplug/replug before theyre seen as working, this includes 3 ext h/d and usb keyboard and mouse |
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| 15:28.34 | Wulf | chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on resolv.conf |
| 15:28.39 | Wulf | cries |
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| 15:28.47 | Wulf | s/cries/howls/ |
| 15:29.02 | mtn | Wulf: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Resolv.conf#Write-protect_.2Fetc.2Fresolv.conf |
| 15:29.44 | JordiGH | Why can't grub-install figure out the fs type on /dev/mapper/Iris-root? Does it have problems with ext4? |
| 15:29.46 | Wulf | mtn: it suggests using chattr |
| 15:30.23 | mtn | Wulf: section: Use resolv.conf.head |
| 15:30.33 | Wulf | no |
| 15:30.36 | mtn | Wulf: very easy solution |
| 15:30.55 | Wulf | okay, the file was a symlink. Should work now... |
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| 15:33.22 | zz0 | hi all, i need a help with lvm |
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| 15:33.53 | zz0 | i lost the vg file |
| 15:34.12 | bwat47 | does anyone know why gnome is showing me different partition size information than gparted? They are both using GiB but gnome-system-monitor's numbers look totally different: http://i.imgur.com/JvjWBTy.png |
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| 15:35.33 | ChrisH | zz0: define vg file. What is the current status, and what did you. vgscan might fix it already |
| 15:36.41 | JordiGH | lolwat |
| 15:37.18 | JordiGH | If I'm doing an encrypted LVM install, /target/boot should have the unencrypted partition installed, right? |
| 15:37.26 | JordiGH | Er, mounted, right? |
| 15:37.38 | mnuhmnuh | bwat47: are you sure? |
| 15:37.39 | ChrisH | JordiGH: yes |
| 15:38.01 | JordiGH | It looks like /target/boot right now is contained inside the encrypted partition; my unencypted /dev/sda1 isn't mounted at all. |
| 15:38.14 | JordiGH | Sigh, wtf, how did d-i mess this up? |
| 15:38.46 | ChrisH | JordiGH: other Q does it boot? If yes... all OK :) |
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| 15:39.20 | JordiGH | ChrisH: No, d-i installs a grub and initrd that doesn't boot, so I can't even complete the install (the part that happens after boot from the installed-to disk, without install media) |
| 15:39.27 | boudiccas | right, email sent off to the mailing list asking for help with my usb problem, lets hope that can come up with a solution |
| 15:39.29 | bwat47 | mnuhmnuh, about what? |
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| 15:39.57 | ChrisH | JordiGH: all encrpted stuff I did setup till now, has /boot unencrpted |
| 15:40.00 | JordiGH | ChrisH: #696877 and #673573 seem relevant. |
| 15:40.25 | JordiGH | ChrisH: Yeah, so did I, but it looks like d-i did some weird stuff and tried to put /boot inside the encrypted partition... |
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| 15:41.05 | wjtaylor | I've installed xca, which is a gui app. I don't see a menu item. Is there a way to find it? |
| 15:41.22 | mnuhmnuh | bwat47: Unused == 83.54, Free == 83.5 |
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| 15:42.09 | mnuhmnuh | bwat47: gnome dumbs down everything. :-P |
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| 15:43.06 | ChrisH | JordiGH: I never user d-i so far. |
| 15:43.08 | mnuhmnuh | wjtaylor: update-menus? |
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| 15:43.59 | JordiGH | ChrisH: You've never installed Debian? o.O |
| 15:44.24 | bwat47 | mnuhmnuh, the total size is what seems strange to me, gnome-system-monitor says its 2GiB smaller for home and 1GiB smaller for /, and the uses space for home also looks totally different, gparted says 1.70GiB, gnome-system-monitor says 253MiB :/ |
| 15:44.46 | Starthunder | Can I update Squeeze to Wheezy, somehow using kexec to avoid rebooting? I'd rather not shut down my IRCd. |
| 15:45.47 | boudiccas | Moonlightning, no, you have to reboot for the new kernel, exactly as you were told over an hour ago. hasn't changed in that period :) |
| 15:46.04 | JordiGH | Debian doesn't support kexec? |
| 15:46.09 | Moonlightning | I thought the point of kexec was to avoid reboting 6_9 |
| 15:46.12 | ChrisH | JordiGH: I assumed d-i is the preseed way. |
| 15:46.22 | JordiGH | !d-i |
| 15:46.23 | dpkg | Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" is now the "stable" Debian release (May 04, 2013). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>. |
| 15:46.29 | boudiccas | Moonlightning, but you need to reboot to use the new kernel |
| 15:46.33 | JordiGH | debian-installer |
| 15:46.45 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: Upgrading to a new release involves a lot more than just the kernel. Subsystems like udev are updated as well, and a reboot is a much better idea. |
| 15:46.45 | Moonlightning | So…what does kexec do? 9_6 |
| 15:46.57 | Moonlightning | Gah. |
| 15:47.02 | jhutchins_wk | JordiGH: If you must avoid a reboot then a dist-upgrade is probably not a good idea.\ |
| 15:47.03 | Moonlightning | Okay. :< |
| 15:47.09 | ChrisH | JordiGH: then It allways worked for me :) Unless I did some mistakes |
| 15:47.43 | Moonlightning | Well, there was a network issue at the datacenter the other day that totally killed my uptime anyway, so I guess I'll just reboot. |
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| 15:49.27 | zz0 | ChrisH, the is the atual status are wrong and vscan just make a vg file with tha same errors |
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| 15:49.38 | jhutchins_wk | Uptime for the sake of uptime is foolish. |
| 15:49.45 | zz0 | ChrisH, so the device just dont mount anymore |
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| 15:50.10 | zz0 | ChrisH, you know a way to restore files on ext4 withou snapshot are active? |
| 15:50.43 | zz0 | ChrisH, or just a way to access the files on that broke vg |
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| 15:51.00 | xreal | a question to cron(tab). is 01-51/10 equal to 01,11,21,31,41,51 ? |
| 15:51.10 | JordiGH | It's always worked for me too. I'm so embarrassed by this... it's the first time that I have problems with a stable installation from Debian. |
| 15:52.09 | ChrisH | zz0: Then its time to show us more on paste.debian.net. vgs; lshw -short ; dmesg ; df -h ; vgscan ; pvscan ; might be a good starting point for others, I need do leave now. |
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| 15:53.46 | zeeflo | ChrisH: Can we make a deal to have a talk tomorrow? |
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| 15:56.22 | mnuhmnuh | zeeflo: if you do what he asked, others may be able to help now, and it'll be waiting for him. :-| |
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| 15:57.05 | xreal | Did really noone ever use cron? :( |
| 15:57.29 | mnuhmnuh | zeeflo: sorry, ignore, intended for zz0 |
| 15:57.45 | zeeflo | ;) |
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| 15:58.21 | xreal | Thanks for no help :( |
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| 15:58.26 | mnuhmnuh | xreal: have you tried it? crontab -e, add that line to run "date" |
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| 15:58.37 | Moonlightning | uses cron… |
| 15:59.16 | zeeflo | xRule: http://unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html |
| 15:59.31 | zeeflo | was meant for xreal.. But what ever |
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| 16:02.01 | Darkchaos | Can someone please execute "lsb_release -s -c" |
| 16:02.06 | Darkchaos | It should return wheezy right? |
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| 16:02.33 | Darkchaos | meh I'm stupid. the repo is for ubuntu, so I need the ubuntu name |
| 16:02.37 | h00ked | yep |
| 16:02.39 | mnuhmnuh | Darkchaos: yup. |
| 16:02.47 | jhutchins_wk | I realize that there are manpages that are distinctly unhelpful, but if something is explained clearly in the man page and it's clear you haven't even checked to see whether it is, it's likely nobody's going to answer here. |
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| 16:02.59 | Darkchaos | Will Ubuntu Packages run on Debian just on the fly? |
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| 16:03.31 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: It's a gamble and it can mess up your system. They are different distributions and do some things very differently. |
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| 16:03.36 | mnuhmnuh | Darkchaos: assume NO. |
| 16:03.48 | Darkchaos | but building from source will work 100%? |
| 16:04.05 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: Well, 99% at least. |
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| 16:04.54 | Darkchaos | And then I could build a .deb one could add to the repo? |
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| 16:07.08 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: Yes, profided you follow the Debian standards. |
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| 16:07.12 | suborbital | gear up ladies |
| 16:07.18 | apm1 | *provided |
| 16:07.28 | jhutchins_wk | !nmg |
| 16:07.28 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 16:08.11 | Darkchaos | well it's for a debian based distribution only and they don't want external packages for security issues, however I want to get used to it and supply an "aftermarket" deb |
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| 16:08.29 | Darkchaos | 1st link broken btw |
| 16:08.39 | apm1 | YMMV but getting your package in debian is like a shitload of convincing a lot of people |
| 16:08.42 | Darkchaos | oh not broken, my client included ) |
| 16:08.52 | Darkchaos | YMMV? |
| 16:09.05 | Moonlightning | ^ Your Mileage May Vary |
| 16:09.05 | apm1 | your mileage may vary |
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| 16:09.44 | apm1 | seriously dude if you don't know what YMMV is , i am surprised you even know how to make a .deb XD |
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| 16:10.13 | JordiGH | !wtf ymmv |
| 16:10.15 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 16:10.17 | apm1 | that may have come out harsh |
| 16:10.23 | JordiGH | !wtf linux |
| 16:10.25 | apm1 | i apologize |
| 16:10.25 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 16:10.29 | jhutchins_wk | apm1: Clearly his mileage has varied from yours. |
| 16:10.39 | JordiGH | Oh, dpkg doesn't have the bsdgames thing installed? |
| 16:10.45 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 16:10.53 | ShapeShifter499 | how would I enable zcache? |
| 16:11.20 | Moonlightning | <open query> What do you recommend for backing up a VPS, before upgrading to Wheezy? |
| 16:11.39 | Darkchaos | Well I beleive it doesn't really define who I am, as a German dev I am not used to all abbreviations |
| 16:12.00 | JordiGH | Darkchaos: Btw, "handy", "beamer" and "sthg" are not English words. |
| 16:12.07 | JordiGH | Nor is "sth". |
| 16:12.08 | JordiGH | Nor "sb". |
| 16:12.20 | JordiGH | They are abbreviations only used in English dictionaries for foreigners. |
| 16:12.29 | ChibaPet | Moonlightning: Depends on if it's local to you or not probably. I tend to use dump for local VMs and rsync for remote ones. |
| 16:12.33 | OpenTokix | Moonlightning: your own stuff - I usally pull /home /etc and dpkg --get-selections |
| 16:12.35 | apm1 | Darkchaos, i didn't mean to offend you |
| 16:12.42 | apm1 | it just came out wrong |
| 16:12.54 | Darkchaos | yeah no problem |
| 16:13.01 | OpenTokix | Moonlightning: and /usr/local /opt /srv if you have your own stuff there. |
| 16:13.01 | suborbital | re-sync |
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| 16:14.03 | Darkchaos | well those are all about manualy generating packages, Am I not able to use dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 16:14.31 | Darkchaos | nevermind. It needs all that Information, which was already provided through apt-get source |
| 16:14.51 | ShapeShifter499 | I'm guessing no one knows about zcache |
| 16:15.11 | jhutchins_wk | !info zcache |
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| 16:16.49 | ShapeShifter499 | jhutchins_wk, I've been hitting up all the linux channels, I think its enabled in my kernel but I don't know how to enable it or use it |
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| 16:17.10 | paranoids | ShapeShifter499: i think you mean zram http://gionn.net/2012/03/11/zram-on-debian-ubuntu-for-memory-overcommitment/ |
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| 16:17.28 | tensorpudding | does debian's prename use the standard perl regex format? |
| 16:17.29 | Darkchaos | modinfo zram will help you |
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| 16:17.34 | Darkchaos | also modprobe zram |
| 16:17.38 | tensorpudding | it seems to not understand \g |
| 16:17.46 | ShapeShifter499 | paranoids, no I mean zcache http://lwn.net/Articles/397574/ |
| 16:17.55 | ShapeShifter499 | or maybe I don't understand |
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| 16:18.28 | jhutchins_wk | !info zcache |
| 16:18.44 | ShapeShifter499 | !info zcache |
| 16:18.47 | ShapeShifter499 | ? |
| 16:19.03 | jhutchins_wk | ,info zcache |
| 16:19.04 | judd | No package named 'zcache' was found in wheezy/i386. |
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| 16:19.51 | Darkchaos | I have a serious issue. apt says the following packages are no longer used: ... wpasupplicant gnome-network-manager... WTF? |
| 16:20.07 | paranoids | ShapeShifter499: you mean a block layer ssd cache: it's only available since linux-3.9 |
| 16:20.41 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: What release? |
| 16:21.31 | ShapeShifter499 | I thought zcache helped with swap |
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| 16:21.54 | Darkchaos | Only Debian-based, however it's just after a apt-get upgrade :D Are those maybe simply older versions or would a apt-get autoremove crash all? |
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| 16:22.12 | ShapeShifter499 | paranoids, am I wrong |
| 16:22.13 | ShapeShifter499 | ? |
| 16:22.22 | paranoids | ShapeShifter499: yeah this would be zram: is an lzo compressed swap in ram |
| 16:23.03 | paranoids | ShapeShifter499: android devices with less ram and customfirmware using this |
| 16:23.16 | ShapeShifter499 | paranoids, I got it to do something by adding it to grub |
| 16:24.01 | ShapeShifter499 | I forgot to note I was on ubuntu, but since no one was answering me I came here |
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| 16:24.07 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: There's no way we can know what they've done. They may be transitioning to different packages or their dependencies may be broken. Please don't try to trick us into supporting something we don't know here. |
| 16:24.16 | mumpitzel | !tell ShapeShifter499 about they don't know |
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| 16:24.41 | ShapeShifter499 | paranoids, http://pastebin.com/p5yF4zRm |
| 16:25.08 | Darkchaos | I didn't want to trick you, however this seems to be a serious issue, am I right? May it help removing some unstable repos and therefore "downgrade"? |
| 16:25.12 | mumpitzel | ShapeShifter499: we cannot know ubuntu, please ask the ubuntu people to support it |
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| 16:26.14 | paranoids | ShapeShifter499: sorry never used zcache |
| 16:26.54 | mnuhmnuh | ShapeShifter499: "grep zcache /var/log/dmesg" || "dmesg | grep zcache" |
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| 16:27.50 | jhutchins_wk | ,kernels |
| 16:27.51 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8.5-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.8-2-686-pae (3.8.13-1); jessie: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.41-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
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| 16:28.49 | jhutchins_wk | ShapeShifter499: Are you trying to do this on sid or what? |
| 16:28.57 | mumpitzel | jhutchins_wk: ubuntu |
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| 16:29.12 | ShapeShifter499 | jhutchins_wk, yea ubuntu, sorry |
| 16:29.30 | jhutchins_wk | Right. Well, you know the answer. |
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| 16:31.55 | Darkchaos | Might removing iceweasel crash a debian? |
| 16:32.00 | ChibaPet | Darkchaos: It shouldn't. |
| 16:32.14 | ChibaPet | Darkchaos: Of course, if you removed it with a screwdriver, it might. |
| 16:32.31 | Darkchaos | or depend on wpasupplicant and so wpasupplicant is no longer needed if i remove iceweasel |
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| 16:33.08 | ChibaPet | Darkchaos: That sounds like an unrelated issue. It seems implausible that you only have those because of iceweasel. |
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| 16:34.09 | mumpitzel | Darkchaos: you have no debian. so we cannot know what your distro does |
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| 16:34.50 | ChibaPet | Darkchaos: What are you running? Is it... not Debian? |
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| 16:35.45 | Darkchaos | no kali, however its debian based and I don't believe they change core packages |
| 16:35.58 | Darkchaos | they only supply other packages as well |
| 16:36.20 | ChibaPet | Darkchaos: 'aptitude why wpasupplicant' |
| 16:36.39 | ChibaPet | Darkchaos: Also, you might have a more pleasant experience running the actual Debian. |
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| 16:37.31 | mumpitzel | !kali |
| 16:37.31 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 16:37.45 | mumpitzel | I suggest you go there and ask them |
| 16:37.46 | Darkchaos | I know however the channel is dead |
| 16:37.55 | mumpitzel | we still cannot help you, sorry |
| 16:37.58 | Darkchaos | and the answer was: "I am not having that issue" |
| 16:38.10 | JordiGH | Hm, I'm trying to hack d-i... I killed in-target, but I guess it left some lock file somewhere, so it thinks it's still running. What is in-target checking? |
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| 16:38.47 | Darkchaos | aptitude why wpasupplicant: "netscript-2.4 provides ifupdown, suggests wpasupplicant" |
| 16:38.48 | Darkchaos | only this |
| 16:39.16 | Darkchaos | system fucked^^ |
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| 16:45.47 | mnuhmnuh | Darkchaos: aptitude search network-manager |
| 16:46.54 | Darkchaos | many found. mostly blugins |
| 16:47.00 | Darkchaos | plugins. |
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| 16:49.08 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: That's exactly the kind of thing that derivatives change, so asking about it here is a waste of your time and ours. |
| 16:49.32 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: If your distro's irc isn't active you'll have to make do with mailing lists, forums, wikis, or whatever they use. |
| 16:49.46 | jhutchins_wk | Darkchaos: If you want support here, install debian - it's that simple. |
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| 17:01.11 | zokko | hello folks! |
| 17:01.32 | Christoff522 | hey zokko |
| 17:01.41 | zokko | i need to build Zend 1.12, how should i do it? checkinstall, dh-make-pe{ar,cl} doesnt fit for that |
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| 17:02.00 | zokko | it's a flat directory&files structure, and i want to put it in .deb instead of moving .tgz between servers |
| 17:02.06 | zokko | any documentation/hint for that? |
| 17:02.12 | zokko | hey Christoff522 :-) |
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| 17:03.01 | JordiGH | zokko: What advantage does a .deb offer you over .tar.gz in this case? |
| 17:03.21 | zokko | JordiGH: i can manage debian repository via Puppet. :-) |
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| 17:03.45 | JordiGH | zokko: Install in /opt/zend and remove with rm -r /opt/zend? |
| 17:04.02 | zokko | JordiGH: yes, i need exactly this funcionality |
| 17:04.08 | peterrooney | jhutchins_wk: Very succinct. I think that's a perfect mod for the "based on debian" factoid. Proposed: If you want support here, try installing debian first. |
| 17:04.13 | JordiGH | zokko: You can do exactly this with a tarball. |
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| 17:04.22 | zokko | JordiGH: but i need a debian package. |
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| 17:04.39 | JordiGH | zokko: You don't need a debian package to install to /opt nor to remove a directory from /opt. |
| 17:04.44 | peterrooney | zokko: no, you *want* a debian package |
| 17:04.58 | zokko | peterrooney: no. my boss needs it, so i need to build it ,-) |
| 17:05.09 | peterrooney | unless you're trying to bypass some sudo limitations imposed on you? |
| 17:05.27 | zokko | no. i just want to do it cleanly and the-good-way. |
| 17:05.45 | JordiGH | zokko: The good way is to do an actual Debian packaging of Zend... does this really not exist already? |
| 17:05.52 | peterrooney | zokko: which is tar and scp, or rsync. |
| 17:05.55 | zokko | building a binary package for debian is simple as running make, and how about flat file structure? |
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| 17:06.17 | JordiGH | zokko: What do you mean "flat file structure"? No subdirectories? |
| 17:06.20 | zokko | JordiGH: doesnt exist. i need exactly 1.12 version of Zend |
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| 17:06.34 | zokko | JordiGH: with sub-directiories :) |
| 17:06.36 | JordiGH | zokko: Why don't you grab an existing Debian packaging and upgrde it to 1.12? |
| 17:06.49 | smlb | there's anyone who tryied debian gnu/hurd? |
| 17:06.55 | JordiGH | zokko: What does "flat file structure", mean? That normally means "no subdirectories". What does it mean to you? |
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| 17:07.04 | zokko | JordiGH: havent found any suitable, only from github. but in that environment i cant use 3rd party repo |
| 17:07.25 | JordiGH | zokko: I give up. Your problem is insoluble. |
| 17:07.31 | zokko | JordiGH: i need to build a package, not to discuss about 'why, what for, do you believe in jesus'. |
| 17:07.44 | tensorpudding | i have a bunch of logging complaints for sendmail trying to find AAAA records and getting A instead...how do i configure sendmail to stop complaining about them? |
| 17:07.48 | JordiGH | zokko: I need to know why, what for, and do you believe in Jesus if you keep rejecting my solutions. |
| 17:08.30 | zokko | JordiGH: i cant use any !{debian,ubuntu} repository because of our security team. :/ |
| 17:08.41 | tensorpudding | iirc it has to do with ipv6...i don't know why it assumes that i have an ipv6 router |
| 17:08.42 | JordiGH | zokko: You already rejected doing a packaging yourself, updating an existing package, and using checkinstall. These are the only reasonable options that exist. |
| 17:08.49 | zokko | JordiGH: i want to build a package :) |
| 17:09.07 | JordiGH | zokko: You'll have to find an unreasonable solution, since you've rejected the three reasonable solutions. |
| 17:09.13 | zokko | JordiGH: how should i build deb from a directory not containing any make/configure things? |
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| 17:09.26 | JordiGH | zokko: You put make/configure things in them. |
| 17:09.47 | JordiGH | zokko: Is that what you meant with "flat file structure"? No make nor configure information in it? |
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| 17:10.03 | tensorpudding | in any event, i don't even know why i have sendmail installed |
| 17:10.10 | tensorpudding | i thought i had installed exim |
| 17:10.28 | zokko | JordiGH: yes :) exactly. my english isnt so fluent, sorry |
| 17:10.47 | tensorpudding | oh, it is exim, it's just pretending to be sendmail |
| 17:10.58 | JordiGH | zokko: Do you know how a Debian packaging works? Do you know what goes in debian/rules? |
| 17:11.16 | JordiGH | zokko: Is learning how a Debian packaging works an option, or is this also not an option because you don't believe in Jesus? |
| 17:11.33 | zokko | JordiGH: to be honest - i'm reading about it right now. i've built alot of rpms, but no deb since now |
| 17:11.57 | JordiGH | zokko: Then... grab an existing Zend installation and update it. Isn't this the easiest thing to do? Learn by example? |
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| 17:12.33 | JordiGH | Er, an existing Zend packaging. |
| 17:12.34 | zokko | JordiGH: but how should I update it? now i'm manually untaring tarball and moving files to their destination |
| 17:12.53 | zokko | and i can do it only on test and dev. on production it's prohibited |
| 17:13.18 | zokko | so.. i want to have my own deb which contains files that i need |
| 17:13.21 | JordiGH | zokko: You do exactly that, and copy an existing debian/ directory into your untarred source directory, and you update the files in the debian/ directory as necessary for the changes in the new version, if any. |
| 17:14.05 | zokko | JordiGH: erm. didnt thought about that way. thank you, i'm going to try it immediately. |
| 17:14.43 | JordiGH | zokko: If you're lucky, all you need to change is debian/changelog and debian/control |
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| 17:15.07 | zokko | JordiGH: it's minor change, so maybe i'll be lucky |
| 17:15.14 | zokko | 1.11.11 -> 1.12 |
| 17:16.19 | JordiGH | zokko: cd into the source directory and build with "dpkg-buildpackage" |
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| 17:18.40 | JordiGH | !ops parhs |
| 17:18.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jordigh complains about: parhs |
| 17:19.03 | JordiGH | parhs is spamming with images over /query |
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| 17:32.11 | zokko | JordiGH: it seems like zend.src.deb package doesnt contain any version-specific magic so it should build in seconds :D thank you, i appreciate! |
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| 17:35.08 | no_gravity | Hello! Under Debian 6, I was able to copy stuff from vim to the "normal" clipboard with :%y+ in Debian 7 vim tells me "E850: Invalid register name". What am I doing wrong? |
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| 17:39.30 | DrOwl | hay all, how do i chose my audio output device... eg I have a built in sound card and a usb mixer with audio output, how can i caange it so that "system" sounds come out of the usb device instead of the built in one? |
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| 17:40.54 | LEDfan | Hi I have installed postfix, dovecot and roundcube on my VPS. I can acces my E-mails via roundcube. But when I try to connect through thunderbird, it can't connect to the server. (time out) When I telnet to the server on port 25, it also times out. When I telnet on port 25 on my VPS (via SSH) I login to postfix. |
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| 17:41.44 | LEDfan | A friend of mine thinks it's because I haven't created a MX record for my domain. (Sending and receiving E-mails in roundcube works perfect, IMAP in thunderbird works) |
| 17:42.20 | DrOwl | LEDfan: is there a firewall on your vps? |
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| 17:42.44 | petemc | LEDfan: netstat -puant|grep 25 |
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| 17:43.12 | petemc | LEDfan: some isps block port 25, so if postfix is listening on all interfaces, it may be that |
| 17:43.20 | mmrp | !list |
| 17:43.21 | dpkg | mmrp: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 17:43.44 | LEDfan | DrOwl: there is a firewall but when I disable it, it still doesn't work. |
| 17:44.19 | LEDfan | petemc: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - |
| 17:44.44 | petemc | LEDfan: it may be your isp, you can use port 587 to send mails through your vps |
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| 17:45.48 | LEDfan | petemc: I'll give it a try. |
| 17:46.03 | petemc | you may need to tell postfix to listen on that port.. |
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| 17:48.44 | JordiGH | Hmmmm.... my /etc/crypttab is empty. |
| 17:48.50 | JordiGH | This would definitely fuck up creating an initrd, right? |
| 17:49.14 | JordiGH | How do I get the LUKS UUID? |
| 17:49.48 | JordiGH | Would any of you show me a default /etc/cryptsetup for the default encrypted LVM d-i setup? |
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| 17:52.15 | LEDfan | petemc: I know can telnet, but can't connect through thunderbird. |
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| 17:53.17 | petemc | LEDfan: telnet to which port? |
| 17:53.34 | LEDfan | petemc: 587 |
| 17:53.52 | petemc | did you change the config in thunderbird accordingly? |
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| 17:55.08 | petemc | perhaps worth double checking thunderbird, it can be funny sometimes |
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| 18:17.36 | boudiccas | i'm on a live wheezy disc. what package provides 'lsusb' please? |
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| 18:18.44 | atrapado | boudiccas, usbutils |
| 18:18.50 | boudiccas | thanks |
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| 18:19.41 | jelly-home | JordiGH: mine's not default! |
| 18:19.58 | fluxy | hi everyone i'm running jessie LXDE and alsamixer has stopped working |
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| 18:27.07 | Alam_Squeeze | fluxy: #debian_next ? |
| 18:27.21 | fluxy | thanks Alam |
| 18:27.55 | Alam_Squeeze | oh wait, that on OFTC, not here on Freenode |
| 18:28.14 | Alam_Squeeze | fluxy: pastebin 'dpkg -l libasound2-plugins' |
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| 18:28.52 | brian-ie | Any SST experts in the house? |
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| 18:29.29 | fluxy | i solved with pavucontrol |
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| 18:48.02 | Cultist | If I have a paid openvpn service and the .opvn and .crt files, is it fairly quick and easy to force my server to connect through the vpn automatically on boot? |
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| 18:55.36 | jhutchins_wk | Cultist: It can be done. You'll need to read the docs and do some trial-and-error. |
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| 18:58.24 | rkeene | I am running Debian 7.0 and I have a bridge (bond0-vlan30) with two network interfaces (bond0.30 and vnet1). ARP replies being sent from vnet1 into the bridge are being mangled with the MAC address of the bridge. tcpdump on vnet1 has the correct MAC address in the ARP reply, but tcpdump on bond0-vlan30 has the wrong MAC address. I do not have arptables installed. Anyone have an idea what is going on here ? |
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| 19:00.21 | rkeene | It's really breaking things. |
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| 19:01.48 | rkeene | Also, it only happens for solicited ARP requests -- if I generate unsolicited ARP requests then they are not mangled. |
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| 19:06.50 | Seb | hmm, apt-cache show doesn't list the long description of a package anymore ? |
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| 19:11.06 | JordiGH | jelly-home: Well, if my cryptsetup created by d-i is empty, that's bad, right? |
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| 19:13.14 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: Oddly, the installer does the right thing for that without any hand-hacking. |
| 19:13.36 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Well, it's not doing the right thing here, because it's installing me an unbootable system. |
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| 19:13.52 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: You're not trying to encrypt your /boot as well, are you? |
| 19:14.13 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Nope. |
| 19:14.35 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: I'm trying to work around some d-i bugs that are installing an unbootable system. |
| 19:15.08 | JordiGH | /dev/sda1 mounted on /boot as ext2, that's good. |
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| 19:15.11 | ttz | hi there |
| 19:15.16 | ChibaPet | Hm. Thinking. I've largely done nothing *but* installs like you're describing, and I haven't had any issues. You're not trying to re-use pre-existing LUKS are you? |
| 19:15.28 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Nope, I asked it to wipe the hd. |
| 19:15.39 | ttz | I cannot find package "oprofile" on wheezy. Has it been renamed or removed for some reason? |
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| 19:16.23 | JordiGH | ttz: http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/oprofile.html |
| 19:17.03 | JordiGH | http://bugs.debian.org/653168 |
| 19:17.10 | JordiGH | Pity, I actually like oprofile. |
| 19:17.23 | JordiGH | I wonder if I could take over maintainership. It looks like a complicated package, though. |
| 19:17.25 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: You've probably tried this already, and I'm not sure why you're not getting cryptab populated, but for me blkid agrees with cryptab for encrypted device UUIDs. |
| 19:17.27 | Seb | ttz: RoQA; low popcon, replacements exist, buggy, unmaintained |
| 19:17.34 | JordiGH | Also, I'm surprised that a FreeBSD dev cares about a Linux-only package. |
| 19:17.42 | JordiGH | Seb: What are the replacements? |
| 19:17.47 | Seb | Id ask google |
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| 19:17.57 | JordiGH | Seb: I have, found no answers. |
| 19:17.58 | Seb | lttng from the looks of it |
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| 19:18.06 | ttz | JordiGH: thanks |
| 19:18.16 | Seb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.19 | Seb | (from the bug report) |
| 19:18.29 | JordiGH | Doesn't perf requiring instrumenting your code too? |
| 19:18.34 | JordiGH | That's not an alternative if it does. |
| 19:19.06 | Seb | JordiGH: i'm just gleaning info from the bug report, not pretending I know much about either :) |
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| 19:19.22 | ttz | Seb: thanks |
| 19:19.22 | JordiGH | What |
| 19:19.22 | JordiGH | s |
| 19:19.23 | ttz | https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 19:19.32 | ttz | (the replacement) |
| 19:19.36 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: So, the last thing that comes to mind is that I always do a manual layout in the expert text interface. Might be worth trying to see if that gives me some knob that doesn't exist otherwise. Otherwise, nothing is coming to mind. |
| 19:19.37 | JordiGH | Is it packaged? |
| 19:19.44 | Seb | ttz: gcu forever :) |
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| 19:20.01 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: I've already done manual partitioning with LUKS + LVM. It's still not creating a bootable system. |
| 19:20.29 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Btw, I started experiencing this when I was in squeeze and did an upgrade (but not a dist-upgrade) to wheezy. |
| 19:20.41 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: Single disk? (I tend to do it with MD here, but single-disk removes a couple points where it could fail.) |
| 19:20.52 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Yes, single disk, no RAIDing. |
| 19:20.58 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: Wait, this system worked before the upgrade? |
| 19:21.05 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Yep. |
| 19:21.15 | ttz | Seb: do you mean it has been submitted as a news on GCU? :) |
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| 19:21.21 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: I gave up trying to fix it because apt was confused like shit, so I decided to reinstall. |
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| 19:21.37 | ChibaPet | Ah. I've only done fresh Squeeze and Wheezy installs. Hm. Well. Yeah, if you have an empty cryptab, rebuilding it can't hurt. Does blkid give you UUIDs? |
| 19:21.57 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: Ah, and now you're seeing the same thing on a fresh install? That's very odd. |
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| 19:22.00 | JordiGH | ChibaPet: Yeah... |
| 19:22.00 | Seb | ttz: no, I meant my weak research was done mostly as a brotherly courtesy heh |
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| 19:22.13 | JordiGH | What is GCU? |
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| 19:22.23 | JordiGH | I liked oprof; I'm sorry to see it's gone. |
| 19:22.26 | Seb | Groupement des Campeurs Universitaires |
| 19:22.27 | ttz | Seb: oh ok, I get it. Thanks bro' ;) |
| 19:22.42 | Seb | ttz: :) |
| 19:22.43 | JordiGH | GCU isn't related to prof or oprof, is it? |
| 19:22.52 | Seb | no tthat we know of, no |
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| 19:23.45 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: Alright, officially giving up here. If you're doing a fresh install, I can't think of any reason why it would fail on you. Sorry, and hopefully someone else has more of a clue. |
| 19:23.52 | LEDfan | petemc: I have found this error SASL PLAIN authentication failed: |
| 19:24.02 | ChibaPet | I keep thinking about things that might still exist from your old install, but you're saying it's fresh. |
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| 19:26.55 | JordiGH | Why did this thing even install mdadm? I got no RAID. |
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| 19:28.00 | JordiGH | Okay... Let's try rebooting. |
| 19:28.04 | JordiGH | holds on to his butt. |
| 19:28.40 | JordiGH | Hm.... :-( |
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| 19:28.53 | ChibaPet | JordiGH: My laptop doesn't have mdadm installed, and it does the usual LUKS set-up otherwise for me. |
| 19:28.57 | JordiGH | "cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available" |
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| 19:32.30 | JordiGH | Ah, the internet says I messed up my crypttab: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=74232 |
| 19:32.40 | JordiGH | It should point to /dev/sda5 instead of /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt |
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| 19:33.13 | ChibaPet | Oh, it needs the raw bits to have something to decrypt. |
| 19:33.26 | ChibaPet | I can't see how the installer is getting that wrong for you. |
| 19:33.59 | JordiGH | I got that wrong. |
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| 19:34.52 | JordiGH | Okay, now we go into the liveusb... |
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| 19:34.58 | JordiGH | And mount the damn thing... |
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| 19:35.33 | JordiGH | But boy, if the NSA ever catches me with my laptop powered off, they sure as hell aren't gonna get into my Octave source directory until they hit me with a rubber hose... |
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| 19:35.40 | JordiGH | Encryption: totally worth it, amirite? |
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| 19:52.16 | _martin | hi |
| 19:52.20 | rkeene | It appears to only happen if I build a bridge on a bonded interface (even if the bonded interface only has 1 component) |
| 19:52.34 | _martin | since the last apt-get upgrade my mount -a config doesnt work |
| 19:52.38 | _martin | i use debian unstable |
| 19:53.14 | _martin | when mount -a i only get mount error 22 invalid argument -.- |
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| 19:53.39 | JordiGH | bangs head against wall. |
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| 19:53.42 | JordiGH | Still can't boot. :-( |
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| 19:54.16 | JordiGH | So, what are my options? |
| 19:54.25 | JordiGH | How do I debug this? |
| 19:54.36 | JordiGH | I kinda want to just go back to squeeze. |
| 19:54.50 | _martin | why are they changing the syntax of fstab on an update 0o |
| 19:55.03 | squisher | JordiGH, I just joined, what's your issue? |
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| 19:55.30 | JordiGH | squisher: I can't install wheezy using encrypted LVM. I seem to be the only person who has ever experienced this. |
| 19:55.55 | _martin | i got entries like that : //10.51.51.252/martin/Desktop /home/martin/Desktop cifs username=martin,password=blabal,uid=martin,rw,noatime 0 0 |
| 19:56.04 | squisher | JordiGH, I had the same issue... let me remember if I can find the workaround I used |
| 19:56.10 | squisher | JordiGH, it's a bit messy, but doable |
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| 19:56.46 | JordiGH | squisher: It's a long story... I was on squeeze, did an upgrade (but not dist-upgrade) to wheezy, tried to reboot, my encrypted partition was lost, got a livecd on a usb, tried to rescue there, gave up, then decided to just wipe the disk and start from the liveusb, and then d-i creates an unbootable installation that still can't find the encrypted partition. |
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| 19:57.45 | squisher | JordiGH, hm interesting. My wheezy boots fine, but I only have /home encrypted |
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| 19:58.35 | squisher | JordiGH, did you boot in rescue mode and have a look? |
| 19:58.40 | JordiGH | Yes. |
| 19:58.46 | Walex | squisher: as someone was arguing with me recently, all it takes is then someone puts stuff in your '/boot' and then '/home' encryption does not matter anymore. |
| 19:59.20 | squisher | Walex, sure, for work I have full disk encryption, including swap |
| 19:59.36 | squisher | but for play all I want to achieve that my personal data isn't readable if I loose my laptop |
| 19:59.50 | JordiGH | Then I decrypt with cryptsetup luksOpen, then mount the LVM volumes, then mount dev, proc, and sys, (didn't mount the swap partition, does it matter?) then mount /dev/mapper/Iris/root, then chroot into the mount point, then... |
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| 20:00.22 | JordiGH | Yeah, I basically just want to make sure that if I lose the laptop, I'm not also letting someone read my stuff. I do save stuff like bank information to /home. |
| 20:01.06 | JordiGH | I can't believe I can't install a Debian stable image. This has never happened to me. I'm still aghast. |
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| 20:02.38 | squisher | JordiGH, |
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| 20:03.54 | JordiGH | Yes, dear? |
| 20:03.55 | farciarz84 | hi I have few desktop env. How to set xfce as default and first? |
| 20:04.28 | JordiGH | d-i has changed, the "expert" option is gone. |
| 20:04.35 | JordiGH | Well, it seems to be handled differently now. |
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| 20:05.22 | JordiGH | I wonder if the whole issue is that I'm using a CD image on a USB key and this is confusing cryptsetup and/or grub. |
| 20:05.53 | JordiGH | This seems to be the content of: http://bugs.debian.org/696877 |
| 20:05.55 | squisher | JordiGH, what does this cmd say: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg| egrep "[[:space:]]+linux" | head -n1 |
| 20:06.21 | JordiGH | squisher: I'm not currently in there... Hold on... |
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| 20:06.52 | squisher | JordiGH, that bug deals with someone booting from USB and then removing the stick |
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| 20:07.23 | JordiGH | Hold on, I'm booting the livecd again. |
| 20:08.16 | JordiGH | Okay... let's mount the crapped installation... |
| 20:08.22 | squisher | JordiGH, this may take a while, but we can check step by step how your setup compares to my working one |
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| 20:09.15 | JordiGH | squisher: multiplayer ssh? |
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| 20:09.57 | squisher | ? |
| 20:10.09 | JordiGH | squisher: With screen or tmux. |
| 20:10.24 | squisher | JordiGH, nah, I'll just let you know what to check |
| 20:10.27 | JordiGH | We're all friends here, right? |
| 20:10.31 | squisher | hehe |
| 20:10.50 | atrapado | JordiGH, did you try fixing /etc/crypttab and doing update-initramfs -u ? |
| 20:11.17 | JordiGH | atrapado: I think so... |
| 20:11.36 | atrapado | ok |
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| 20:13.05 | JordiGH | squisher: linux /vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/Iris-root ro initrd=/install/gtk/initrd.gz quiet |
| 20:13.09 | JordiGH | wtf |
| 20:13.19 | JordiGH | squisher: btw, you loose nerd points for a useless use of cat |
| 20:13.23 | JordiGH | lose |
| 20:13.39 | squisher | JordiGH, it makes it easier to edit the regex |
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| 20:13.51 | JordiGH | It does? |
| 20:13.52 | JordiGH | shrugs. |
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| 20:14.03 | JordiGH | wtf, why is that the initrd? |
| 20:14.10 | JordiGH | Where is that /install even found? |
| 20:14.26 | squisher | JordiGH, just run update-grub |
| 20:14.45 | squisher | and then check again |
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| 20:15.13 | JordiGH | squisher: Same, no change. |
| 20:15.43 | JordiGH | I might have chrooted incorrectly from the liveusb into the encrypted partition... |
| 20:16.06 | squisher | :) |
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| 20:16.27 | JordiGH | I did a mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev |
| 20:16.31 | JordiGH | Was that wrong? |
| 20:16.47 | squisher | no |
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| 20:17.31 | squisher | I usually do: cd /mnt && mount -t proc proc proc && mount -o bind /sys sys && mount -o bind /dev dev && chroot . bin/bash |
| 20:17.37 | JordiGH | I'm impressed you know POSIX regexs, though. I usually do grep -P |
| 20:17.37 | atrapado | JordiGH, did you try the rescue mode of the install CD? may be easier |
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| 20:18.15 | JordiGH | atrapado: Oh, duh, right. I'm in install boot, not rescue boot. |
| 20:18.22 | JordiGH | Le sigh... |
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| 20:18.47 | squisher | now that you're already there... |
| 20:18.56 | JordiGH | Argh, I just rebooted. |
| 20:19.01 | squisher | normally I'd use rescue mode too though :) |
| 20:19.05 | JordiGH | But it was right. There isn't a rescue option in the installer menu. |
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| 20:19.17 | JordiGH | There's live, live failsafe, install, and graphicall install. |
| 20:19.28 | squisher | JordiGH, unetbootin? or actually a cd? |
| 20:19.39 | JordiGH | squisher: A cd on a usb stick. |
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| 20:20.05 | squisher | how did you write the stick? I think for me unetbootin got rid of the rescue menu item too |
| 20:20.11 | JordiGH | I don't get why booting the livecd is complaining about no crypt_LUKS in modules.dep |
| 20:20.16 | squisher | in UEFI mode I see that it's there though |
| 20:20.28 | JordiGH | squisher: cp stuffstuffstuff.iso /dev/sdb |
| 20:20.33 | JordiGH | squisher: That's what the release notes said to do. |
| 20:20.53 | squisher | interesting :) |
| 20:21.04 | squisher | just check if you find an 'advanced' menu item |
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| 20:21.15 | JordiGH | Yeah.... all that has is a "hardware check" option. |
| 20:21.18 | JordiGH | Or something like that. |
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| 20:21.54 | atrapado | maybe the live cd doesn't have a rescue boot |
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| 20:22.16 | squisher | hm, no clue, I use the netinst img |
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| 20:22.31 | JordiGH | Maybe I should just try that... maybe the livecd has messed up stuffs. |
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| 20:22.40 | JordiGH | But I can't imagine why it would be different. |
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| 20:22.58 | squisher | JordiGH, you already saw that your grub.cfg is messed up |
| 20:23.07 | squisher | that's a likely reason that it isn't booting |
| 20:23.18 | squisher | I think we should be able to figure that out with the livecd |
| 20:24.02 | JordiGH | squisher: Does Debian require a reinstallation and run tasksel when you boot the first time without installation media? I guess it was just the initrd for doing that. |
| 20:24.31 | JordiGH | Er, a reboot, not a reinstallation. |
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| 20:24.41 | squisher | no, don't think so |
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| 20:25.04 | JordiGH | When does it run tasksel? I haven't gotten that far in the installation process. |
| 20:25.36 | JordiGH | Huh, half the time when booting it seems to not setup the tty properly and I just get a blank screen. |
| 20:25.36 | squisher | what do you mean... I thought you had reinstalled already? |
| 20:25.39 | JordiGH | ;_; |
| 20:26.06 | JordiGH | squisher: When you reinstall, it asks you to reboot in the middle of an installation. It's this reboot that I can't do. |
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| 20:26.22 | JordiGH | You reinstall, then d-i still takes over and runs tasksel. |
| 20:26.36 | JordiGH | Right? Unless it changed for wheezy. |
| 20:26.41 | JordiGH | Er, you reboot, reboot! |
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| 20:27.27 | squisher | hm, I don't think I've seen that before, but there are different ways to install |
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| 20:28.12 | squisher | in that case the initrd may be correct even |
| 20:28.24 | JordiGH | I think it was. |
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| 20:28.30 | cordell | I am trying to update to vlc 2.0.6 which is supposedly available via the wheezy-backports repo, however I am not have much luck. I ran sudo apt-get install -t wheezy-backports vlc but apt is saying that vlc is already at the latest version. If I manually check the repo http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/vlc/ and do a ctrl + f for vlc_2.0.6 it shows up as being here. |
| 20:28.38 | _martin | this samba didnt worked because of an kernel bug! |
| 20:28.47 | _martin | or feature?! |
| 20:29.01 | cordell | I am not sure if I am doing anything wrong. |
| 20:29.10 | JordiGH | cordell: Did you do "apt-get update" before? |
| 20:29.16 | cordell | yes |
| 20:29.19 | JordiGH | cordell: What does "apt-cache policy vlc" say? |
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| 20:30.44 | cordell | http://paste.debian.net/6960/ |
| 20:30.49 | cordell | thats what it says |
| 20:31.14 | JordiGH | cordell: And /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 20:31.37 | JordiGH | cordell: You don't seem to have the backport collection enabled... |
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| 20:32.05 | cordell | http://paste.debian.net/6961/ |
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| 20:32.50 | cordell | I was able to update libreoffice from version 3 to version 4 |
| 20:33.50 | JordiGH | cordell: idk, maybe you're looking at a mirror that hasn't synched yet. |
| 20:34.24 | cordell | so try changing the mirror and see if that could possibly be the problem? |
| 20:34.44 | JordiGH | cordell: Maybe... |
| 20:35.08 | JordiGH | http.debian.net could be different than ftp.debian.org |
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| 20:35.57 | squisher | cordell, does 'apt-cache show vlc' list the new version? |
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| 20:36.44 | cordell | strangely it does not, although it did for libreoffice. |
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| 20:37.26 | moof2 | when does the daily mirror pulse occur? |
| 20:39.19 | JordiGH | How can I write my initrd by hand? |
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| 20:40.36 | cordell | I changed mirrors and I can still not upgrade to 2.0.6. I think that I should wait about a week and try again |
| 20:40.51 | JordiGH | Unsynched mirrors don't normally take longer than a day. |
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| 20:43.27 | JordiGH | squisher: Can I see your /etc/crypttab? |
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| 20:45.56 | squisher | JordiGH, mine was created by hand, so it may differ slightly from that the installer does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5708054/ |
| 20:45.57 | monod | hello good people |
| 20:46.07 | monod | but ops |
| 20:46.28 | TheNotary | hey, I just installed an offshoot of Damn Small Linux and it's packages in sources.list seem to be pointing at "woody". Can I just change these things in sources.list to the latest debian version and basically enable things like `apt-get install git-core`? |
| 20:46.41 | JordiGH | !based on debian |
| 20:46.41 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 20:46.46 | JordiGH | TheNotary: ^^ |
| 20:47.10 | monod | I was going to ask help for getting a specific program for linux (kgb archiver), but guessed here's it's not appropriate. Where can I post a question like this? #linux? |
| 20:47.17 | monod | I'm getting lost on google though :S |
| 20:48.00 | TheNotary | someone here might know, you never know monod |
| 20:48.09 | monod | oh wow |
| 20:48.24 | JordiGH | TheNotary: You're annoying people with actual Debian questions, e.g. me. |
| 20:48.25 | monod | so I?m not afraid of having posted in wrong channel |
| 20:48.42 | TheNotary | JordiGH: You QQing over nothing still? |
| 20:49.19 | JordiGH | TheNotary: I'm QQing over Debian not booting. It's in your best interest to ask your question to the people who actually know, not the people you think should know. |
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| 20:50.24 | TheNotary | JordiGH: Should bring that sort of thing to #no-one-cares-about-you, it's off topic here |
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| 20:50.47 | JordiGH | squisher: How can I see what the actual initrd is trying to do in order to mount the encrypted partition? |
| 20:51.02 | ogny | http://futurist.se/gldt/ |
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| 20:51.20 | JordiGH | squisher: I'm going to try to just manually edit the initrd. |
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| 20:51.33 | squisher | JordiGH, with 'lsinitramfs' you can see what files are in there, for more see http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug |
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| 20:52.11 | squisher | what you probably need is to append 'break=premount' to the linux kernel options |
| 20:52.16 | JordiGH | squisher: I've seen that, but that asks me to boot it. I want to decompress it, look into it, look for the file that is trying to decrypt the hard drive (it doesn't seem to be the root initrd script) and then recompress the initrd. |
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| 20:52.27 | kakashi_ | Hi, I have an application running and taking sufficient amount of memory now, after it finishes it will quit, but I want to know when it quits, is there a way to track it? |
| 20:52.48 | squisher | JordiGH, for that scroll down to initramfs contents |
| 20:52.53 | SmallFry | I'm having trouble with my HP530 laptop. I've installed the wifi drivers from the nonfree repo, yet the laptop still doesn't want to find wireless networks |
| 20:53.08 | squisher | kakashi_, time /usr/bin/foobar ? |
| 20:53.24 | squisher | kakashi_, or /usr/bin/foobar; echo $?; date |
| 20:53.33 | kakashi_ | squisher: true, but then I already have the stuff running |
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| 20:54.25 | kakashi_ | I didnt use time before running it |
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| 20:54.50 | squisher | kakashi_, then you have to work around it, something like 'while true; do pidof foobar > /dev/null || break; done; date |
| 20:55.01 | kakashi_ | hmm |
| 20:55.11 | squisher | I forgot to stick a sensible sleep in there ;-) |
| 20:55.36 | kakashi_ | well, I dont think sleep is needed, let it run always :P |
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| 20:55.47 | kakashi_ | is that bad? |
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| 20:56.05 | kakashi_ | I mean I have a core free and >40% memeory free |
| 20:56.08 | squisher | kakashi_, it'll use a decent amount of CPU -- depends on if you care about that or not |
| 20:56.31 | squisher | but seriously a 'sleep 0.1s' would probably make sense |
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| 20:56.38 | nejucomo | What's the latest way to configure a server *not* to start/stop automatically in the normal runlevel? Is it by editing the rc.d links with a standard tool, *or* is it by editing something in /etc/default ? |
| 20:56.38 | squisher | unless you need top accuracy |
| 20:56.41 | nejucomo | -or something else? |
| 20:57.08 | rudi_s | Hi. I'm looking for documentation about X11's baseTranslation: #augment feature. Can you point me to some resources? Thanks. |
| 20:58.18 | JordiGH | squisher: I'm pretty sure the wiki is outdated; I remember in the release notes a different way to decompress the initrd. |
| 20:58.22 | squisher | nejucomo, afaik use insserv -r |
| 20:58.54 | rudi_s | And another X11 related question. I start some (non X) programs in my .xinitrc in the background (?). They stay alive after I've terminated my X11 session. What do I need to automatically kill them when I logout? |
| 20:59.13 | nejucomo | squisher: Thanks. |
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| 21:02.04 | SmallFry | I'm having trouble with my HP530 laptop. I've installed the wifi drivers from the nonfree repo, yet the laptop still doesn't want to find wireless networks |
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| 21:05.22 | squisher | SmallFry, does it detect the hardware? |
| 21:05.39 | SmallFry | not that I can tell |
| 21:05.47 | SmallFry | doesn't know how to tell though |
| 21:06.13 | squisher | SmallFry, pastebin 'sudo lspci -k' somewhere |
| 21:07.58 | SmallFry | uh okey |
| 21:08.24 | squisher | SmallFry, that's assuming you have some network on that laptop ;-) |
| 21:08.30 | SmallFry | yes, i do |
| 21:08.36 | SmallFry | using a lan adapter |
| 21:08.40 | squisher | then it should be easy :) |
| 21:08.46 | SmallFry | but copying from a terminal seems odd |
| 21:09.00 | squisher | why? |
| 21:09.01 | SmallFry | i can't control-c nor right click |
| 21:09.09 | SmallFry | is dumb, obviously |
| 21:09.18 | squisher | ah you mean the text console |
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| 21:09.22 | squisher | install pastebinit |
| 21:09.29 | beardy | !gpm |
| 21:09.29 | dpkg | gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the application itself interprets the mouse clicks. http://www.nico.schottelius.org/software/gpm/ #gpm on irc.freenode.org. |
| 21:09.31 | squisher | then pipe to it |
| 21:09.32 | beardy | Or that. |
| 21:10.42 | beardy | If it's an xterm, select with left, paste with middle. |
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| 21:12.25 | JordiGH | Sigh, why is update-initramfs refusing to work from a chroot? |
| 21:12.38 | JordiGH | It's saying "live system is running on read-only media" |
| 21:12.52 | JordiGH | I don't want to change the initrd for the livecd, I want to change it for the chroot! |
| 21:13.34 | JordiGH | Does the wheezy d-i do a pretty grub background image? I don't get one when I boot. |
| 21:14.36 | SmallFry | ugh |
| 21:14.40 | SmallFry | i can't seem to copy |
| 21:14.47 | SmallFry | tried both pastebinit and gpm |
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| 21:16.07 | squisher | SmallFry, sudo lspci -k | pastebinit |
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| 21:16.50 | squisher | JordiGH, not sure how update-initramfs detects the filesystem, but can you 'touch /boot/initrd.test && rm /boot/initrd.test' from within the chroot? |
| 21:17.06 | SmallFry | hm ok |
| 21:17.08 | SmallFry | thanks |
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| 21:17.32 | JordiGH | squisher: Yeah, I can touch /boot |
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| 21:18.50 | SmallFry | first, pastebinit doesn't work. they changed API's |
| 21:18.59 | SmallFry | second. finally got it out of Xterm |
| 21:19.03 | SmallFry | or whatever terminal i'm in |
| 21:19.04 | SmallFry | http://pastebin.com/7SHazNsj |
| 21:20.09 | squisher | SmallFry, the drivel is loaded, see the last entry in that paste: iwl3945 |
| 21:20.22 | SmallFry | ok yep, i see that now |
| 21:20.44 | SmallFry | so, driver loaded, but still no dice in wicd network manager |
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| 21:22.11 | SmallFry | and I know I'm in range of both my neighbor's and my wifi |
| 21:23.04 | squisher | SmallFry, wifi switch? |
| 21:23.28 | SmallFry | idk |
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| 21:23.56 | JordiGH | WOOOO IT BOOTED |
| 21:24.08 | JordiGH | Jesus fucking shit... |
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| 21:24.31 | JordiGH | Now I can run tasksel manually. |
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| 21:25.37 | squisher | JordiGH, congrats |
| 21:26.07 | moof2 | what did you do in the end to make it oot? |
| 21:26.38 | JordiGH | Yeah, looks like all I had to do was fix /etc/cryptsetup and re-run update-initramfs... but it was currently pointing to a symlink /bin/live-update-initramfs or something like that. |
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| 21:27.13 | JordiGH | So I read that script, and the actual update-initramfs gets renamed during this whole process. |
| 21:27.25 | JordiGH | To /usr/sbin/update-initramfs.real or something like that. |
| 21:27.27 | moof2 | , maint dracut |
| 21:27.28 | judd | Package dracut version 020-2 was uploaded by Thomas Lange on 2012-11-08, last changed by Thomas Lange and maintained by Thomas Lange. |
| 21:27.29 | JordiGH | So I ran that instead. |
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| 21:29.33 | moof2 | JordiGH, and so originally it didn't make the initrd? |
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| 21:30.34 | JordiGH | moof2: It made a weird unbootable initrd. |
| 21:30.39 | JordiGH | That I never managed to debug. |
| 21:31.20 | JordiGH | I don't know what to do now, because I probably have some broken half-installed things lying around. I'm pretty sure it wanted to boot into something and I think right now my update-initramfs is still pointing at the wrong thing. |
| 21:32.40 | JordiGH | Yeah... It's pointing to /bin/live-update-initramfs |
| 21:33.23 | moof2 | JordiGH, does dpkg --configure --pending do any1thing? |
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| 21:35.17 | moof2 | is Thomas Lange here? |
| 21:35.35 | aguitel | how to install and try last kernel in wheezy ? no compile whant |
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| 21:35.51 | JordiGH | moof2: No, but let's see if removing live-tools fixes it... |
| 21:35.56 | squisher | SmallFry, the wireless switch is a physical switch on the laptop. Sometimes it gets moved by accident... |
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| 21:37.55 | JordiGH | But then I still have stuff under /lib/live... I probably don't want it. |
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| 21:38.42 | moof2 | JordiGH, oh, I didn't catch wha11t's broken now... what is it? |
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| 21:39.32 | JordiGH | Well, it's just that I'm pretty sure that d-i intended me to boot into some installation thing to finish the installation. By manually running update-initramfs in the middle of the installation, I think I sidestepped that. I mean, I can finish the installation myself, run tasksel and whatever. |
| 21:39.40 | JordiGH | It's just that I think I have installation things left over. |
| 21:39.57 | moof2 | also if you have an initrd and vmlinuz that's working, maybe you could back em up |
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| 21:40.30 | JordiGH | I'm removing live-boot, live-config and live-tools, that's probably what's left over. |
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| 21:42.00 | JordiGH | But first things first, aptitude install emacs. :-) |
| 21:42.01 | SmallFry | Squisher, i don't see one. There's a pushbutton on it, but it does nothing |
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| 21:44.19 | JordiGH | Let's install linux-firmware-nonfree. |
| 21:44.24 | JordiGH | And vrms, for penitence. |
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| 21:53.27 | andre | hi all... |
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| 21:54.51 | andre | i have a stupid question about "sources.list" - what does mean last part here (iceweasel-release)? deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release |
| 21:55.42 | JordiGH | andre: http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 21:58.16 | entitativity | Im not sure if this is GUI dependent. But in wheezy with xfce when I select an application that is already open in my application panel, I would like the open window to be brought forward, instead of a new instance launched. (similar to the behavior of an OSX dock). Is this possible? |
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| 22:00.58 | andre | is it a good idea to install iceweasel 21.0, when icedove is running in version 10.x? |
| 22:01.10 | andre | both programs are using xulrunner, issent it? |
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| 22:03.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | entitativity, probably not trivially... generally it's left up to the application to do that (and some do act that way) |
| 22:04.28 | r3m | ,v imagemagick |
| 22:04.30 | judd | Package: imagemagick on i386 -- squeeze: 8:6.6.0.4-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 8:6.6.0.4-3+squeeze3; jessie: 8:6.7.7.10-5; sid: 8:6.7.7.10-5; wheezy: 8:6.7.7.10-5; experimental: 8:6.7.9.3-2 |
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| 22:04.46 | entitativity | CutMeOwnThroat I see. Suppose I cant get it exactly how I want on week 1 :) |
| 22:06.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | entitativity, I've not used xfce, though... just I don't think it'll be different than other DEs/WMs in that regard... and firefox/iceweasel for example does exactly that, so do some other programs, I think |
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| 22:07.25 | aguitel | i installed tor browser (apt-get install tor) how run tor ? |
| 22:07.32 | entitativity | well it seems that the panel in xfce doesnt hold application shortcuts, but rather 'plug-ins' that link to various functions. Different setup than a regular toolbar |
| 22:08.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | entitativity, you could probably hack some type of wrapper together yourself using pgrep and wmctrl... the trick would be to to have xfce execute the wrapper and to always raise the correct window |
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| 22:08.36 | mumpitzel | aguitel: it's run via init script like other daemons. netstat -anp |grep 9050 should show if it's running already |
| 22:08.43 | entitativity | thats the kind of thinking I like to hear :) |
| 22:08.55 | entitativity | that is beyond my skill at this time however. |
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| 22:10.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | entitativity, well, you can still play around with wmctrl... it's kind of a commandline-interface to the windows... e.g. wmctrl -l gives you a list of all windows, wmctrl someoname would raise the window in whose description "somename" exists |
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| 22:10.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I at least found that pretty neat |
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| 22:11.53 | entitativity | that does sound neat. Ive been looking for little things to tinker with, being new to all of these open source goodies. Ill definitely check it out. |
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| 22:12.05 | entitativity | thanks CutMeOwnThroat |
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| 22:16.13 | andre | hmm.... is there something wrong dont using debian iceweasel? - i could download binary from homepage and store it into ~/Apps/firefox/ |
| 22:16.28 | andre | same with icedove |
| 22:16.43 | xand | what? |
| 22:17.09 | mumpitzel | andre: why would you want to do this? |
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| 22:18.28 | andre | i wanna use actual versions from firefox/thunderbird... |
| 22:18.57 | andre | debian-version of thunderbird seems to be only as "unstable"... |
| 22:19.30 | andre | apt-get install -t unstable icedove will update: libc6 libc6-i686 libffi6 locales |
| 22:19.54 | andre | seems not very good for a "stable" system |
| 22:19.55 | mumpitzel | that's not a good idea what you are doing there. look at mozilla.debian.net instead |
| 22:20.02 | mumpitzel | it's very bad for debian stable |
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| 22:20.31 | andre | yes, therefor perhaps better installing from homepage into users home? |
| 22:20.41 | andre | then ill nothing change on stable system |
| 22:20.48 | mumpitzel | no. I just told you what to do: go to mozilla.debian.net |
| 22:21.00 | Zeranoe | Is there a way to see what packages depend on another? For instance, I want to remove libreoffice but see what package/meta package it will break |
| 22:21.41 | mumpitzel | apt-rdepends, aptitude why, etc. |
| 22:21.54 | andre | on mozilla.debian.net way "icedove" will update libc6 libc6-i686 libffi6 locales |
| 22:22.07 | andre | thats seems not good :-( |
| 22:22.10 | mumpitzel | andre: for wheezy? |
| 22:22.13 | andre | yes |
| 22:22.35 | tommyinla | Is there an option to aptitude that will let me install a downloaded .deb file or do I have to use dpkg -i? |
| 22:24.11 | andre | thats wouldbe a reason for installing binary in homes directory... i hate changings on stable system |
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| 22:24.55 | mumpitzel | andre: I'd get the squeeze backport of it then |
| 22:26.00 | andre | ah nice... let me have a look :) |
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| 22:27.10 | alistair_ | sid :D |
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| 22:28.40 | Zeranoe | Is there a way to tell what packages are meta packages? I want to cut back on some things that are included with the gnome desktop, but want to make sure I don't break anything |
| 22:29.03 | gasull | My ethernet network is grayed out on startup. If I disable networking with right click on network manager -> Enable Networking and enable it again, then it works. How can I fix this? |
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| 22:33.23 | andre | its not working... |
| 22:34.14 | andre | mumpitzel: whats wrong in installing binarys in home directory instead of breaking stable system? |
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| 22:38.05 | andre | instead installing in home's directory u can store it to /opt too |
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| 22:43.40 | evilytwisted | HI, would anyone know of a program thts like a voice changer/autotune that affects in real time.. like for skype or other recording software? |
| 22:47.18 | phogg | evilytwisted: I imagine there's a ladspa plugin for that somewhere, but I don't know |
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| 23:21.56 | Thete | If I set up a server with Debian, and the support is until a year after the next version comes out, that should work for updates til around 2016? |
| 23:22.51 | Thete | Is it ok to set apt to "stable" if I want to keep current with updates for a few years? |
| 23:23.01 | mmnicolas | Thete: emphasis on *should* and *around 2016* |
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| 23:23.35 | mmnicolas | no, by codename will be enough for a few years |
| 23:23.57 | Thete | I'm looking to set up a remote server for web dev and I don't want to have to do a release upgrade for a while, but still stay current with updates/etc |
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| 23:24.32 | Thete | awesome |
| 23:24.39 | Jeudi | Powertop on deb stable, testing and unstable is the same version, with a broken calibrate function. Is compiling my own fixed version my only solution? |
| 23:24.44 | Roenie | define updates |
| 23:25.06 | Roenie | security? features? there's a difference |
| 23:25.16 | mmnicolas | well, as for security updates oldstable will receive it, for stable, you have backports for some sns |
| 23:25.19 | Thete | Just fairly recent versions of Apache/nginx/php, etc.. looking more for features than anything |
| 23:26.02 | Roenie | in that case debian is not the right choice imo |
| 23:26.16 | Thete | Ahh |
| 23:26.33 | Thete | Roenie, what would you suggest? |
| 23:27.23 | Roenie | archlinux would keep you up to date all the time but also requires you to actually check for updates and do them every week |
| 23:27.52 | Roenie | debian is one of the distros with relatively slow release cycle, it's more about stability than bleeding edge |
| 23:27.59 | mmnicolas | that depends on how aggressively you want the latest stuff, maybe testing is enough |
| 23:28.10 | Roenie | but testing is far from stable |
| 23:28.11 | Thete | interesting |
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| 23:28.18 | Roenie | whereas if there is a problem with arch they fix it immediately |
| 23:28.36 | Roenie | so IF you want to be up to date, don't use deb |
| 23:28.53 | Thete | Is there something wit a bit of middle ground? |
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| 23:29.43 | Thete | somewhat close to latest stuff, but relatively stable? |
| 23:29.49 | Roenie | (testing is not actually bad but bugs tend to be in it for a longer time compared to arch) |
| 23:29.56 | Roenie | hmm, lemme think |
| 23:30.01 | mmnicolas | you'll be fine |
| 23:31.21 | Roenie | if you do not want to do distro upgrades |
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| 23:31.33 | Roenie | you have to use a rolling release distro (read: Arch) |
| 23:31.42 | Thete | Ok, I'll check it out |
| 23:31.47 | Thete | Thank you very much for the info |
| 23:32.04 | Roenie | there isn't really a middle ground, i mean you can go with Fedora which tries to be very up to date |
| 23:32.20 | Roenie | but their release cycle means you have to do a dist upgrade to keep up with the new packages |
| 23:32.35 | Roenie | they drop the support for new features |
| 23:32.41 | Thete | I used Fedora for a long time, but the past few releases feel like they're not sure where they want to go with it |
| 23:32.45 | Roenie | same as every other non rolling release distro |
| 23:33.49 | Roenie | i opted for debian because i didn't want to be forced to update every week, which Arch requires you to do |
| 23:33.58 | Roenie | with Arch, updates are not an option, they are a necessity |
| 23:33.58 | Thete | I'm really liking how debian is put together |
| 23:34.07 | Thete | Maybe that'd be sufficient |
| 23:34.23 | Roenie | because if you wait too long you may end up unable to catch up (broken system when you have too big of an update to do at once) |
| 23:34.44 | Roenie | when you update arch you have to check the website etc to see if there are problems |
| 23:34.54 | Roenie | and be willing to work around those problems |
| 23:35.10 | Roenie | (they'll explain how) |
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| 23:35.34 | Thete | I'll take a look, thank you :) |
| 23:35.38 | Roenie | np |
| 23:36.25 | Roenie | distros age, and then you have to reinstall them, because upgrades often fail, it's just how it goes |
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| 23:36.39 | Roenie | rolling release isn't for everyone |
| 23:37.38 | Jeudi | Can you recommend a package for monitoring and logging an HDD's i/o over a specified period (eg. 24hours)? I need to know which processes are responsible for keeping it awake. |
| 23:37.51 | Roenie | ofcourse you can always download new versions of specific packages off the web and install them in debian |
| 23:37.57 | Roenie | if you must |
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| 23:41.55 | user0 | echo |
| 23:42.57 | user0 | Bonsoir, je cherche quelqu'un qui pourrait m'expliquer rapidement les mechanismes du socket multi client, ou me filer un bon lien, pas trop technique. Merci d'avance. |
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| 23:43.11 | nkuttler | !fr |
| 23:43.11 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 23:43.27 | user0 | (socket tcp/ip) |
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| 23:44.05 | user0 | nkuttler: ty |
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| 23:46.27 | Jeudi | Can anyone recommend a package for monitoring and logging an HDD's i/o over a specified period? |
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| 23:49.39 | user0 | Jeudi: iostat ? |
| 23:49.45 | user0 | systat |
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| 23:50.50 | user0 | Jeudi: with a little script you can make a good log |
| 23:51.25 | Jeudi | user0: I should have mentioned that I need to know which processes are responsible for the i/o. iostat doesn't seem to show this. |
| 23:52.02 | Jeudi | and systat is gui and non-free? |
| 23:52.23 | Jeudi | user0: I guess I should have mentioned it should be CLI only. |
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| 23:52.42 | user0 | i think iostat is free, but i dont know if there is gui version |
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| 23:53.13 | Jeudi | iostat doesn't show processes. I don't want a GUI :) |
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| 23:53.23 | user0 | did u look for top and other Xtop apps ? |
| 23:53.51 | user0 | you should look for procceses tools |
| 23:54.06 | Jeudi | i'm using iotop just now, but it doesn't supply enough information. Sometimes it'll show disk i/o and not display an associated process. |
| 23:55.21 | user0 | iodump |
| 23:55.24 | user0 | Jeudi: |
| 23:55.42 | user0 | http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2009/08/23/how-to-find-per-process-io-statistics-on-linux/ |
| 23:56.11 | Jeudi | user0: lol, i found that page just as you did. |
| 23:56.39 | user0 | :) |
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| 23:57.26 | Jeudi | Yeah, that page looks good. Thanks for steering me in its direction. :) |
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