| 00:00.03 | petn-randall | zleslie: Some people don't like the chiclet keyboards that the newer models have, though. |
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| 00:04.14 | zleslie | I am sure I could get used to it. Most of the time I would be using a USB keyboard anyway |
| 00:04.54 | zleslie | Its been years since I had a linux workstation, but I want that world again. Just something reliable, and people have lots of good things to say about them |
| 00:05.05 | zleslie | Thinkpads, that is |
| 00:06.26 | zleslie | I am also making some assumptions about Debian's X improvements over the last couple years |
| 00:06.48 | zleslie | I assume things are still progressing on that front, and as long as the video card is well supported in the thinkpads, I shouldn't have issues. |
| 00:07.02 | zleslie | I do wonder about battery life with respect to discrete video switching, etc |
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| 00:14.10 | nevyn | zleslie: less good things recently... |
| 00:14.36 | nevyn | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/03/19/2143221/are-lenovos-thinkpads-getting-worse |
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| 00:16.37 | phogg | Thinkpads were great under IBM. Now? Well, it's still better than most. |
| 00:17.31 | abrotman | right .. are the worse? probably. Better than hp/dell/toshiba/sony/apple, heck yes |
| 00:17.59 | nevyn | apple maybe not. samsung maybe not. |
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| 00:18.10 | nevyn | but it depends on the criteria. |
| 00:19.15 | abrotman | nevyn: if you don't have to overpay for Apple's hardware&OS, maybe they're on par |
| 00:19.20 | nevyn | laptops are still an exercise in tradeoffs.. screen, keyboard, cpu power, weight .... etc |
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| 00:20.06 | nevyn | abrotman: a macbook air is about on par with a thinkpad carbon or series9 samsung in cost |
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| 00:22.57 | abrotman | nevyn: i need an actual laptop :) .. T series or macbook pro please :) |
| 00:23.34 | nevyn | ok so they're still within 20% or so I'd say |
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| 00:24.25 | abrotman | that's a heck of a premium to run an OSS OS that works better on the thinkpad probably :) |
| 00:24.28 | nevyn | nope they're lots cheaper you're right. |
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| 00:24.44 | nevyn | don't tell me that.. I STILL can't install debian on my x230 |
| 00:24.51 | abrotman | seems to recall a T starts around 800USD, a Pro starts aronud 2000USD ? |
| 00:24.58 | nevyn | yeah |
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| 00:26.11 | dondelelcaro | nevyn: what's wrong with the x230? |
| 00:26.12 | nevyn | 15" with non-retina (apples for apples) 2grand. with retina nad the faster cpu 3grand |
| 00:26.27 | nevyn | dondelelcaro: grub-efi in the di images won't boot. |
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| 00:27.31 | dondelelcaro | ah; I think most of the stuff I've seen is for non UEFI |
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| 00:27.50 | dvs | so, normal, sane, BIOS |
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| 00:30.41 | nevyn | dondelelcaro: #700918 |
| 00:31.05 | nevyn | dvs: by no definition is bios sane. |
| 00:31.18 | dondelelcaro | nevyn: huh; interesting |
| 00:32.01 | nevyn | dondelelcaro: what annoys me is it's gotten worse. I got a grub screen at rc1 |
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| 00:37.20 | nevyn | so I get the flash of first stage grub then a crashed system it's awesome. |
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| 00:40.08 | dondelelcaro | nevyn: hrm. sure sounds like a grub bug, then |
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| 00:40.37 | dondelelcaro | well, or grub just exposing a broken bios (also likely) |
| 00:40.40 | relipse | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.51 | dondelelcaro | relipse: because you didn't use -f? |
| 00:41.05 | dondelelcaro | relipse: I'm not sure what you'd expect it to do |
| 00:41.27 | dondelelcaro | relipse: the other reason may be that you don't actually have permission to remove the files, but rm tries to do so anyway after you tell it yes. |
| 00:41.37 | dondelelcaro | (and it's just warning you beforehand) |
| 00:41.38 | relipse | ok thanks it was -f option |
| 00:41.47 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 00:42.41 | nevyn | broken uefi implentation (apparently lenovo has been reasonably good at screwing this up) ref: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html |
| 00:43.52 | dvs | oh, lenovo, that explains everything |
| 00:44.09 | relipse | if i do "rm *.txt" can I undo that? |
| 00:44.21 | Vasistha | relipse: not very easily, no |
| 00:44.25 | themill | relipse: only from your backups |
| 00:44.37 | relipse | darn they need an undo option like gmail |
| 00:45.00 | Vasistha | relipse: maybe you should use a graphical file manager that puts stuff in a trash folder? |
| 00:45.08 | relipse | cant i'm using putty |
| 00:45.21 | relipse | or just alias rm to mv /tmp/ |
| 00:45.24 | relipse | lol |
| 00:45.28 | Vasistha | relipse: the other thing you can do is alias rm to rm -i |
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| 00:46.20 | relipse | is there a way to get php 5.4 on debian squeeze? |
| 00:46.42 | Vasistha | relipse: but based on your previous question about -f, that's maybe not what you want. Anyway, I guess you know how to alias. I recently lost a couple important videos that I was transferring from my phone, because I deleted them from the phone when they hadn't actually transferred successfully :-( |
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| 00:48.15 | Vasistha | how can I apply changes from a different branch, without merging (and deleting) that branch? |
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| 00:48.30 | Vasistha | oops wrong chan :P |
| 00:48.44 | relipse | you in #git? |
| 00:48.49 | Vasistha | why yes! |
| 00:48.58 | relipse | i love git |
| 00:49.01 | Vasistha | how ever did you guess? |
| 00:49.02 | relipse | join #git-workflow |
| 00:49.04 | dvs | then git! |
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| 00:49.08 | Vasistha | hehe |
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| 00:54.15 | isaias | where do I go to install proprietary drivers for Debian? |
| 00:54.18 | isaias | Nvidia |
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| 00:54.46 | onryo | . |
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| 00:58.22 | relipse | i'm trying to install php5.4 on debian squeeze it said to install wheezy, but i'm getting this error: https://pastee.org/zb6ud |
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| 00:59.37 | Vasistha | relipse: did you start installing wheezy? If so, how did you do that? |
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| 00:59.49 | relipse | followed these instructions: http://serverfault.com/questions/404815/how-can-i-upgrade-php-to-a-higher-version-for-debian-squeeze |
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| 01:01.04 | abrotman | oh jesus .. |
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| 01:01.15 | abrotman | relipse: those are horrible instructions |
| 01:01.16 | Vasistha | relipse: yeah, those are pretty bad instructions IMO |
| 01:01.28 | Vasistha | !tell relipse about simple sid backport |
| 01:02.09 | abrotman | relipse: why do you need newer PHP ? |
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| 01:03.27 | relipse | because it rocks :0 |
| 01:03.32 | abrotman | good luck |
| 01:04.08 | relipse | you can do $array = [1,2,3]; |
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| 01:04.15 | relipse | rather than array(1,2,3) |
| 01:04.17 | nevyn | dondelelcaro: that said.. ubuntu boots.. ;( |
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| 01:04.58 | johncarter | hi guys |
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| 01:06.26 | relipse | how do I update to wheezy |
| 01:06.31 | relipse | from sqeeze |
| 01:06.51 | relipse | and how do i check for debian backports? |
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| 01:08.23 | abrotman | there is no php5 backport |
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| 01:09.18 | themill | relipse: at this stage, you could quite happily upgrade to wheezy |
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| 01:10.41 | Vasistha | !tell relipse about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 01:12.25 | Ponch0 | I can't get past network detect on install, is the same issue present in debian 6.0.7? and if not can I upgrade from there? |
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| 01:12.58 | dvs | wireles? |
| 01:12.59 | themill | Ponch0: can you explain what's (not) happening some more? |
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| 01:13.21 | Ponch0 | I could but than it would explain too much |
| 01:13.43 | themill | well we can't tell you if the "same issue" is present if we don't know what the issue is... |
| 01:13.46 | Ponch0 | debian wheezy install gets stuck on network detect, there's a bug. |
| 01:14.23 | themill | what does "stuck" mean? detecting what? (hardware? asking for a dhcp lease?) |
| 01:14.59 | Ponch0 | I'm sorry, can I upgrade 6.0.7 to wheezy? |
| 01:15.03 | themill | of course |
| 01:15.28 | themill | but the installer doesn't change that much so I can't imagine it will be any different |
| 01:15.31 | Ponch0 | great thank you. |
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| 01:16.34 | wald0 | im reading the news about "backports for wheezy", this means something like updated software which is something that users complains about the stable releases ? is there any list of packages ? |
| 01:16.46 | themill | Ponch0: and since my ESP-over-IRC isn't working today, I can't tell you if that will solve your problem or not. We can either try to fix the problem or you can keep trying things until they work. Have fun! |
| 01:16.55 | Ponch0 | here's what I'm talking about themill, apologies for being vague. |
| 01:16.57 | Ponch0 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681656 |
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| 01:17.43 | themill | wald0: sure, backports have been made where possible and where requested for many releases. There aren't really any wheezy-backports yet as wheezy isn't released. |
| 01:18.13 | Ponch0 | Ok the install on 6.0.7 got passed the network detection part |
| 01:19.50 | themill | Ponch0: what install image were you using to install wheezy? |
| 01:20.34 | Ponch0 | I tried the DVD .iso/amd64 and net install. |
| 01:20.37 | relipse | how do i name my linux machine, on putty it just shows an IP address, but on another server it actually calls it <name> |
| 01:22.06 | themill | Ponch0: that unfortunately doesn't tell me which image... the exact filename or even better the exact URL you downloaded it from would be better. |
| 01:22.22 | Ponch0 | apologies again. |
| 01:22.51 | Ponch0 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_rc1/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 01:23.03 | Vasistha | relipse: well, if you type 'hostname' then that will tell you the name of your machine. But for another machine to know the name of your machine ... well, that's complicated. |
| 01:23.26 | Vasistha | relipse: man hostname |
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| 01:23.42 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | relipse: do you mean dhcp hostnames? |
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| 01:24.32 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | (Or just adding a line to /etc/hosts?) |
| 01:24.54 | relipse | i want to install phpmyadmin but where do I install it to? |
| 01:25.25 | themill | Ponch0: thanks. That bug should have been fixed already. If you have the time to do, can you head over to #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net and tell them that you seem to have hit #681656 with wheezy RC1 and see if there's extra debugging information that you can provide to them? |
| 01:25.48 | relipse | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI Vasistha: all I know is when i login with putty it shows foobar0 on my friend's server, on my linode server it just says <ip address> |
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| 01:27.12 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | are you on the same network as the server that says you're coming from foobar0 |
| 01:27.15 | Ponch0 | themill: absolutely |
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| 01:28.50 | relipse | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: i'm using putty from windows 7, i think putty has some sort of recognition |
| 01:29.01 | relipse | and no they are not on the same network |
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| 01:31.10 | themill | Ponch0: thanks. |
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| 01:32.45 | relipse | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: any ideas? |
| 01:34.22 | Ponch0 | Ok I'm in the channel, I'm not sure if I should continue that installation with 6.0.7 if they'd like more info. Right now it's quiet. |
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| 01:39.01 | relipse | i'm trying to install phpmyadmin manually (so i can have the latest version) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ but for some reason /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf is not getting run, how do i enable this? |
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| 01:41.23 | Vasistha | !tell relipse about phpmyadmin |
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| 01:42.26 | Vicissitude | !tell Vicissitude about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 01:45.49 | relipse | all of my /etc/apache2/mods-available are chmodded lrwxrwxrwx, i added a new file in there do i need the same chmod? |
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| 01:50.39 | Ponch0 | what's the difference between the ISO's, DVD-1, DVD-2... ? |
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| 01:52.19 | relipse | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.27 | relipse | can someone help me with adding an apache module |
| 01:54.47 | Lis | hello everyone, i have anotebook with li-ion battery. does it harm the notebook battery if I let the notebook die if it does not powers down automatically at 20% battery charge rate? |
| 01:55.21 | ChibaPet | Lis: Some batteries have problems with that. 20% is probably a bit conservative. |
| 01:56.35 | dvs | Ponch0: DVD-1 is the installer while the other DVD have more stuff in case you don't have an internet connection. |
| 01:57.06 | Ponch0 | dvs: awesome thank you. |
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| 01:57.16 | ChibaPet | Lis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_polymer_battery |
| 01:57.24 | dvs | np |
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| 01:59.07 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | Lis: li-ion health is best when the battery charge stays near/between 75-95% iirc |
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| 02:00.35 | Lis | sh ok. i forgot to plugin the power supply and fell asleep... so I ask myselfe weather that did harm to the battery already |
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| 02:00.55 | Lis | the notebook died before 3 hours |
| 02:02.03 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | well, if it only happened once you shouldn't really notice a difference |
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| 02:02.22 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | but continuous draining and recharging of a li-ion wears it out pretty fast as far as I know |
| 02:03.50 | dondelelcaro | Lis: almost all Li batteries cut out when their charge drops below a critical threshold |
| 02:04.00 | dondelelcaro | Lis: so it should be fine |
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| 02:05.20 | Lis | hm maybe i call the manufacturer so i could enable the automatic poweroff at 5% charge rate and not at 20% |
| 02:05.38 | Lis | thanks for the information |
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| 02:08.49 | zerox | Hello, is there a command "at" in debian squeeze? I can man it, but no such command to execute. |
| 02:10.02 | abrotman | zerox: shuld be installled already |
| 02:10.04 | themill | zerox: sure. It's in the "at" package. |
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| 02:11.48 | zerox | Thank you. I found the package. But it's kinda weird that I can already "man at" before I install the "at" package. |
| 02:12.00 | zerox | I thought it was included with "cron"... |
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| 02:14.59 | themill | yes, the at man page is in the at package; translations of it can be in translation packs though. |
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| 02:17.25 | themill | ,file man./at\..\.gz --regex |
| 02:17.29 | judd | Search for man./at\..\.gz in squeeze/i386: at: usr/share/man/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-ja: usr/share/man/ja/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-cs: usr/share/man/cs/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-hu: usr/share/man/hu/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-fr-extra: usr/share/man/fr/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-pl: usr/share/man/pl/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-es-extra: usr/share/man/es/man1/at.1.gz; manpages-zh: usr/share/man/zh_CN/man1/at.1.gz, |
| 02:17.30 | judd | usr/share/man/zh_TW/man1/at.1.gz |
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| 02:18.11 | zerox | Before installing "at", "man at" shows it as in POSIX programmers manual, which I believe is the package "manpage-posix" or "manpage-posix-dev"? I don't install any translation packages. |
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| 02:21.10 | themill | indeed... there's a /usr/share/man/man1/at.1posix.gz |
| 02:21.39 | themill | (I'm not sure why you'd install manpages-posix-dev but not at) |
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| 02:22.16 | abrotman | thought at was part of base |
| 02:22.26 | themill | given that one is in main and priority:standard, the other is non-free and optional. |
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| 02:22.55 | zerox | Yes I manually installed manpages-posix-dev... Thought it might be helpful for programming. |
| 02:23.48 | zerox | I usually install debian by the businesscard and only install a tiling window manager, no desktop env task selected. |
| 02:24.29 | zerox | "at" obviously is not included in the "base system". |
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| 02:29.59 | themill | zerox: depends on your definition of base system. Most people consider the "standard task" to be part of the base install, and that does include at, |
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| 02:37.29 | zerox | themill: Yes, that's reasonable. Thanks for the info. |
| 02:37.50 | isaias | well. I think I'm giving up on Debian... I spent the whole freakin day JUST trying to install Java and Nvidia drivers... |
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| 02:38.25 | isaias | Java applications using up 101% |
| 02:38.46 | isaias | omg, wtf am I saying? |
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| 02:39.12 | isaias | im not giving up. just tired of this for now |
| 02:39.40 | abrotman | didn't you install the java from oracle fro mtheir binary on squeeze? |
| 02:39.42 | abrotman | for java7? |
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| 02:40.16 | rwp | Interestingly I just read a thread on Ubuntu where they are removing "at" from their base system install. |
| 02:40.27 | rwp | I always install "at" on all of my systems. |
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| 02:40.37 | zerox | I use oracle Java6, which is good for android. |
| 02:40.54 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | I never used at; I removed atd on some of my installs |
| 02:41.01 | isaias | from their binary on squeeze? I couldnt get the instructions on oracle to work so I had to install other stuff |
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| 02:41.33 | isaias | but |
| 02:41.44 | zerox | the thing is, grab .bin package from oracle website, use a package to transform it into .deb, and sudo dpkg -i to install. |
| 02:42.05 | rwp | That is the beauty of a framework like Debian, The Universial Operating System. Install what you want. Uninstall what you don't. |
| 02:42.08 | isaias | this is what i have java version "1.7.0_17" |
| 02:42.09 | isaias | Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_17-b02) |
| 02:42.09 | isaias | Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode) |
| 02:42.56 | rwp | I hate Java. For the last decade it has always been a hassle. OpenJDK seems straight forward now though. |
| 02:43.29 | isaias | how to I change it from bin to deb? just change the .bin to .deb? or something special? |
| 02:44.07 | zerox | No, there is a package to do this. I'm searching for it. |
| 02:44.12 | Ponch0 | Ok issue, I installed debian and i only have the terminal and no desktop. |
| 02:44.52 | Ponch0 | I selected to install it, is there a way to check if I have a desktop installed? |
| 02:45.21 | rwp | Ponch0, You selected it at the install dialog but it didn't start automatically at the initial reboot? |
| 02:45.39 | rwp | Ponch0, That could mean that your graphics is not functional. |
| 02:45.41 | Ponch0 | rwp yes that's correct. |
| 02:45.51 | Ponch0 | oh boo |
| 02:46.10 | isaias | Ponch0: you made me feel a lot better about Debian... |
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| 02:46.17 | rwp | Ponch0, Do you have /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? Any errors there? |
| 02:46.23 | isaias | It could have been worse for me |
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| 02:46.40 | Ponch0 | my windows 8 is still working, that's good. |
| 02:46.53 | rwp | isaias, I came late to the party (and need to run soon) but why not use OpenJDK instead of Oracle Java? |
| 02:47.03 | Ponch0 | isaias: i'm glad. |
| 02:47.14 | isaias | openjdk, it wouldnt work |
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| 02:47.17 | isaias | the install |
| 02:47.20 | Ponch0 | rwp: how would I check or get to that file? I'm pretty new. |
| 02:47.58 | isaias | Ponch0: cd /var/log |
| 02:48.00 | abrotman | rwp: minesweeper server or something |
| 02:48.01 | rwp | Ponch0, The 'ls' command lists directories. Try: ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:48.07 | Ponch0 | ok 2nd restart it took me to grub rescue> |
| 02:48.14 | isaias | Ponch0: yes, that |
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| 02:48.59 | isaias | which one do i download http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en |
| 02:49.06 | rwp | If the file is there then I would more/less it. I like less better than more. So: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 02:49.13 | Ponch0 | I think because I used external hdd and it didn't boot fast enough. |
| 02:49.14 | rwp | Look for lines with "EE" indicating an error. |
| 02:49.29 | rwp | Uhm... What? |
| 02:49.33 | Ponch0 | rwp: i'm in grub rescue> I think it wants me to type something and I'm not sure what heh. |
| 02:49.58 | rwp | Its been ages since I have been in grub rescue. |
| 02:50.08 | dvs | Ponch0: you installed Debian on an extenal USB drive? |
| 02:50.10 | rwp | Why are you there? I thought you said it would boot to the console login? |
| 02:50.23 | Ponch0 | dvs: yes |
| 02:50.40 | Ponch0 | rwp: I logged into windows to see if it was still working and it was, so I rebooted and now I'm here. |
| 02:50.42 | rwp | An external USB drive might take several seconds to settle at boot time. |
| 02:51.21 | zerox | The package is java-package, but I can't find it by "apt-cache search java-package". |
| 02:51.40 | Ponch0 | that's what I figured. thanks I'll google how to fix it. |
| 02:51.42 | zerox | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/install-java-on-wheezy-928296/, refer to post #11. |
| 02:51.43 | rwp | I vaguely remember java-package having been obsoleted and removed. |
| 02:51.58 | isaias | sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre |
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| 02:52.00 | isaias | oops |
| 02:52.07 | isaias | no, dont use that, thats for me |
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| 02:52.30 | rwp | And with that I must bail out. They are closing up around me. Good luck to all and to all a good night. |
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| 02:56.03 | isaias | someone help, please, lol |
| 02:56.05 | isaias | http://pastebin.com/Gjs5U76y |
| 02:56.21 | isaias | should be simple. I dont know what to do |
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| 02:58.22 | gnarface | isaias: sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer |
| 02:58.39 | gnarface | isaias: unless you want java8 |
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| 02:58.54 | isaias | oracle-java7-installer is already the newest version. |
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| 02:59.12 | gnarface | so its already installed |
| 02:59.20 | gnarface | hooraaay you're done |
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| 02:59.22 | isaias | ok then.... why does my CPU show 101% when running java |
| 02:59.31 | gnarface | snorts |
| 02:59.45 | Ponch0 | isaias were you able to get your nvidia working? |
| 03:00.05 | gnarface | isaias: when is the last time you updated anything else on the server? that does sound like you may be experiencing a recent kernel+tzdata+java fuckup |
| 03:00.17 | gnarface | isaias: (fixed later with a kernel patch) |
| 03:00.32 | isaias | Ponch0: Couldnt install it. it gave me an error. let me get it |
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| 03:01.09 | gnarface | isaias: if you are in fact experiencing that time glitch this should hotfix it: date; date `date +"%m%d%H%M%C%y.%S"`; date; |
| 03:01.14 | gnarface | isaias: (worth trying at least) |
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| 03:01.47 | isaias | sh: Can't open ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.88.run |
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| 03:02.28 | isaias | Ponch0: sh: Can't open ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.88.run |
| 03:02.38 | isaias | gnarface: my date and time are fine |
| 03:04.50 | Ponch0 | isaias: I think i'm having the same issue, since I don't have a desktop but right now I'm trying to figure out how to delay the boot so I can boot my external hard drive. |
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| 03:07.02 | isaias | Ponch0: delay the boot? can you change the time it takes to change boot in your bios? |
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| 03:07.17 | jeet_ | what is the gstreamer1.0 package name? i can't seem to find it |
| 03:07.48 | Ponch0 | I think I can do it in command I just have to find the google search I found earlier by accident. |
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| 03:08.59 | isaias | I can't believe I spent a whole day trying to play minecraft so my girl would be happy... |
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| 03:09.09 | jeet_ | http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/gstreamer1.0 but sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0 says unable to locate package |
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| 03:09.13 | isaias | now she's telling me that we can play another game, lol |
| 03:09.26 | isaias | any ideas anyone? what game should we try out? |
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| 03:10.09 | jeet_ | who? |
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| 03:12.32 | Ponch0 | how do I update/upgrade debian from command line? |
| 03:12.46 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 03:13.04 | jeet_ | hmm, seems to me my version of debian linux (wheezy) does not have gstreamer1.0 |
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| 03:14.10 | Ponch0 | thank you. |
| 03:14.58 | Ponch0 | ok how do I make myself a "sudoer" I have the pass since I made it |
| 03:15.15 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | visudo as root |
| 03:15.35 | aarcane_ | you can try sudo visudo from another account with sudo access |
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| 03:15.54 | Ponch0 | this is the only account, atleast it should be when I installed the system |
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| 03:16.24 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | su root -c 'visudo' |
| 03:16.39 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | enter the root password, add yourself to the sudoers list, save, done |
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| 03:17.53 | gnarface | isaias: i think you're wrong |
| 03:18.04 | Ponch0 | Ok i'm in nano. how would I add myself? |
| 03:18.11 | zykotick9 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: adding the user to the sudo group, makes a lot more sense to me. |
| 03:18.28 | gnarface | isaias: there's no way you'd be able to tell just by the date. its a weird cpu scheduler glitch. i'm looking for the link for your reference... |
| 03:18.36 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | ┐('～`；)┌ |
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| 03:19.00 | gnarface | isaias: here it is: http://blog.wpkg.org/2012/07/01/java-leap-second-bug-30-june-1-july-2012-fix/ |
| 03:19.03 | gnarface | isaias: leap second ubg |
| 03:19.04 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | you'd still have to check the sudoers file to see the sudoers group as it might not be the same on all systems |
| 03:19.05 | Ponch0 | Hehe thank you. |
| 03:19.07 | gnarface | isaias: *bug |
| 03:19.23 | gnarface | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: it is on debian |
| 03:19.39 | gnarface | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: (in the default file at least) |
| 03:19.51 | zykotick9 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI: it's there on debian by default, what channel are we in? oh ya, #debian |
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| 03:20.14 | isaias | gnarface: bash: +%m%d%H%M%C%y.%S: command not found |
| 03:20.48 | gnarface | isaias: copy+paste or type more carefully |
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| 03:21.12 | markroman | i installed this package: linux-backports-modules-hv-quantal-generic and it knocked out my wired network card. is there a way to get the network card back? |
| 03:21.32 | isaias | 23:01 < gnarface> isaias: if you are in fact experiencing that time glitch this should hotfix it: date; date `date +"%m%d%H%M%C%y.%S"`; date; |
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| 03:21.39 | isaias | i copy+paste |
| 03:22.05 | gnarface | isaias: you should have seen the same datestamp output 3x in a row |
| 03:22.52 | gnarface | isaias: exactly these three commands, exactly like this, paste this whole thing on one line: date; date `date +"%m%d%H%M%C%y.%S"`; date; |
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| 03:23.13 | gnarface | isaias: you'll have to be root |
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| 03:24.03 | isaias | # date `date +"%m%d%H%M%C%y.%S"` |
| 03:24.03 | isaias | Thu Apr 11 23:23:45 EDT 2013 |
| 03:24.11 | gnarface | isaias: i forget whether you have to stop your java programs while you do it or if it works just as well while they are running |
| 03:24.18 | gnarface | isaias: the change should be instant though |
| 03:24.42 | gnarface | isaias: if that didn't help your problem is something else |
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| 03:26.16 | isaias | gnarface: i did it. date and time 3x. what should I do now? lol |
| 03:26.24 | isaias | gnarface: try running java? |
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| 03:27.14 | isaias | o wait, i have the webpage you gave me |
| 03:27.20 | gnarface | isaias: yea. it should just magically fix everything. |
| 03:27.32 | gnarface | isaias: its stupid as shit. fuck java |
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| 03:29.16 | isaias | it didnt work :/ |
| 03:29.19 | peterrooney | markroman: /join #ubuntu |
| 03:29.23 | isaias | gnarface: thank you though :P |
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| 03:29.37 | markroman | peterrooney: thanks |
| 03:29.41 | markroman | ill try that |
| 03:29.59 | gnarface | isaias: i'd say try it while the java program is actually running just once for good measure and make sure your kernel is up-to-date too |
| 03:30.12 | gnarface | isaias: (make sure the kernel is up-to-date first actually) |
| 03:30.23 | gnarface | isaias: you're on squeeze ? |
| 03:30.29 | markroman | btw this is on mint 14 |
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| 03:31.57 | isaias | i just used squeeze for the first time not a few minutes ago. I didnt use it for java |
| 03:32.06 | gnarface | wheezy then? |
| 03:32.09 | gnarface | or a non-debian distro? |
| 03:32.17 | gnarface | if its not debian all my advice is null and void |
| 03:32.24 | isaias | wait |
| 03:32.49 | isaias | im confused. i used a squeese program to install something a few minutes ago. I am on debian |
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| 03:34.21 | isaias | what is squeeze? |
| 03:34.28 | gnarface | isaias: well either way i've given you all the info i have on it. i merely assumed you were running into a glitch i'd seen, if that's not the case i'm sorry |
| 03:34.33 | gnarface | isaias: squeeze is debian stable |
| 03:34.38 | gnarface | isaias: (for now) |
| 03:34.42 | isaias | oh |
| 03:34.47 | isaias | well, thank you |
| 03:34.47 | gnarface | 6.0 |
| 03:34.50 | gnarface | its a release version name |
| 03:34.51 | isaias | :) |
| 03:34.59 | isaias | ahh, yes. thats what im using |
| 03:35.41 | relipse | how can i add/manage email accounts for my domain? |
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| 03:36.59 | isaias | gnarface: guess I'll play nibbles |
| 03:37.03 | isaias | lol\ |
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| 03:38.01 | isaias | gnarface: hey! nibbles is using 100% too! |
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| 03:43.51 | gnarface | isaias: what type of hardware is this? |
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| 03:45.58 | ruben231 | hi guys anyone have idea what version of debian with packages as php5.1 or php5.2 |
| 03:46.08 | ruben231 | and somehow mysql 5.1 also |
| 03:46.16 | ruben231 | what version of debian ahve this..? |
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| 03:47.34 | themill | squeeze has mysql 5.1. If you really need specific versions of php and mysql, there's something very wrong with the code™ |
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| 03:52.07 | ruben231 | themill: what is the latest version of debian nw somehow..? |
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| 04:04.12 | ruben231 | guys anyone have idea...where to download debain lenny..? |
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| 04:22.43 | Infiltrator | ruben231: Squeeze (stable) is 6; Wheezy (testing?) is 7; sid is unstable; and there is experimental. |
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| 04:23.09 | Infiltrator | ruben231: Lenny is quite old now; why are you looking to download it? |
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| 04:25.47 | ruben231 | Infiltrator: soomehow need mysql 5.1 version and php5.2 version on its package..? |
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| 04:27.02 | ChibaPet | ruben231: Squeeze has MySQL 5.1. |
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| 04:27.39 | ruben231 | ChibaPet: how about php 5.2..? my appliaction does not work with 5.3 |
| 04:27.47 | ruben231 | php5.3 * i mean |
| 04:27.53 | ChibaPet | Looking. |
| 04:28.24 | KeiKun | guys i have a problem. my root's hostname is ex rawr.com but when i access another user its hostname isn't same as root |
| 04:28.46 | Infiltrator | .versions php5 |
| 04:28.51 | Infiltrator | ,versions php5 |
| 04:28.52 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze13; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze15; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze15; wheezy: 5.4.4-14; sid: 5.4.4-15; experimental: 5.5.0~alpha5-2; experimental: 5.5.0~beta2-1 |
| 04:28.56 | ChibaPet | ruben231: Looks like Squeeze ... that. |
| 04:29.00 | Infiltrator | ruben231: ^ |
| 04:30.05 | themill | ruben231: I would suggest that you need to fix your php. There isn't really a way around this. |
| 04:31.06 | ruben231 | themill: so it php5.3, i could try this because base on my testing it wont relly run on php5.4 and it workd with php5.2 - ill test with php5.3 |
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| 04:31.58 | themill | ruben231: you could upgrade to wheezy and then have php 5.4 |
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| 04:32.25 | themill | (and fix your php so that it runs with php 5.4 ;) |
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| 04:47.11 | mikehaas763 | I'm using dotdeb. Is it possible to install a specific past version of php that was on dotdeb? |
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| 04:50.01 | themill | mikehaas763: we have no idea if dotdeb maintains old versions of packages for you (they have a GPL obligation to do so, but...). We'd recommend against touching their packages in any case. You could try asking them. |
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| 04:57.18 | mikehaas763 | themill: Really, the GPL says they have to host past binaries forever? |
| 04:57.52 | mikehaas763 | and I know it sucks having to break out of the regular debian repos but.. php 5.3.3 is nasty old |
| 04:58.03 | mikehaas763 | and doesn't work very well with the symfony framework |
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| 05:02.44 | themill | mikehaas763: no, but it does say they should have the source packages kicking around for a while (and if you're keeping them, you may as well keep the binaries). There's nothing "old" about the php in squeeze -- what is "old" about is that php is a moving target and both php upstream and php module writers seem incapable of writing code that works with more than any single version of php. |
| 05:02.53 | themill | mikehaas763: upgrade to wheezy if you want php 5.4. |
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| 05:04.45 | mikehaas763 | I hear ya and I fully understand those arguments |
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| 05:05.58 | mikehaas763 | compared to ruby though php is actually even less of a moving target. The main reason I'm probably going to be switching to node and/or python eventually |
| 05:06.12 | mikehaas763 | for my dynamic needs... alright I'll stop getting off topic |
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| 05:18.26 | jeet | is not /dev/video0 a URI? |
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| 05:19.14 | Infiltrator | jeet: I think that you need to do file:///dev/video0. (Don't trust me.) |
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| 05:21.41 | Ponch0 | does anyone know how to install nvidia deb drivers from command line? |
| 05:21.45 | Ponch0 | I have no desktop env |
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| 05:22.19 | cortexA9 | Ponch0: with apt-get ? |
| 05:22.34 | Ponch0 | I dunno :/ |
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| 05:23.24 | Infiltrator | Ponch0: I think that he meant do: apt-get install nvidia (or whatever it's called). You can also use aptitude. |
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| 05:24.47 | Ponch0 | yes, problem is I don't have the source, also I'm not sure if that's the reason why I don't have a desktop env |
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| 05:25.57 | talx | Ponch0:what does apt-get install nvdia says? |
| 05:26.34 | cortexA9 | Ponch0: you need to activate non-free repository |
| 05:27.00 | Ponch0 | "unable to lovate package nvidia" |
| 05:27.03 | Ponch0 | locate* |
| 05:27.04 | cortexA9 | Ponch0: echo "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze non-free contrib" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update |
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| 05:27.37 | Ponch0 | Ah cortexA9 I have wheezy, but I already followed these instructions and I still have no desktop |
| 05:27.59 | cortexA9 | oh ok |
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| 05:29.01 | talx | Ponch0:non-free should get you nvdia, and for desktop you need x |
| 05:29.11 | Infiltrator | Ponch0: Do you have xserver-xorg-video* packages installed? |
| 05:29.26 | Infiltrator | Ponch0: Or are you adamantly after the non-free drivers? |
| 05:30.13 | Ponch0 | I'm only trying to get my desktop env to work. I don't care if free or non-free or ones from the flea market work as long as they work. |
| 05:30.19 | Infiltrator | Ponch0: If you do apt(-get|itude) install gdm3, that should get you at a basic graphical desktop environment. |
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| 05:31.31 | Ponch0 | great Infiltrator installing now/hopefully this will work. |
| 05:31.51 | tyvil | lol @ desktop environments... |
| 05:32.11 | tyvil | just install xorg and openbox, i3wm, fluxbox, awesome wm, dwm, etc |
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| 05:32.29 | Ponch0 | I have no idea |
| 05:32.32 | Infiltrator | tyvil: Or don't use any of that. :) |
| 05:32.41 | cortexA9 | kde |
| 05:32.42 | cortexA9 | :P |
| 05:32.52 | tyvil | Infiltrator: and use console alone? |
| 05:32.54 | tyvil | KDE is bloated |
| 05:33.02 | Infiltrator | tyvil: I just thought that it might be easier for him to install the default and then go from there. |
| 05:33.07 | Infiltrator | tyvil: Sure; why not? |
| 05:33.12 | tyvil | Squeeze or Wheezy or Sid? |
| 05:33.19 | Ponch0 | Infiltrator: you are correct, I like your solution |
| 05:33.33 | Ponch0 | easier = good |
| 05:33.44 | Ponch0 | good for me |
| 05:34.21 | themill | Ponch0: did you install the nvidia-kernel-dkms package as dpkg said? |
| 05:34.37 | Ponch0 | themill: yes, I installed all of that stuffs. |
| 05:34.53 | Ponch0 | settings, x-config... |
| 05:34.59 | talx | which deb gets you python? |
| 05:35.14 | themill | talx: ? |
| 05:35.19 | Infiltrator | talx: python? |
| 05:35.20 | themill | Ponch0: and created /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf? |
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| 05:35.44 | talx | themill:yes, i need python installed asap |
| 05:35.58 | Ponch0 | themill: I did this "sudo nvidia-xconfig" which were in the instructions. that would create it. |
| 05:36.06 | Infiltrator | talx: The package 'python' will get you python. |
| 05:36.21 | Ponch0 | or "should" |
| 05:36.45 | themill | talx: and did "aptitude install python" not work? |
| 05:36.59 | talx | Infiltrator:apt-get install python gets me nothing |
| 05:37.16 | themill | talx: what does "nothing" mean. apt-get never says nothing. |
| 05:37.22 | themill | dpkg: tell talx about paste |
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| 05:37.44 | talx | themill:it can not find such pkg |
| 05:38.11 | themill | talx: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list for us? |
| 05:38.20 | Ponch0 | BAH! it didn't work |
| 05:38.36 | talx | themill:dont have access to this file now |
| 05:38.45 | themill | talx: what does that mean? |
| 05:38.54 | talx | remote |
| 05:39.00 | talx | system |
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| 05:39.19 | themill | So how are you doing anything with it? |
| 05:39.42 | talx | Well i was earlier as of yesterday, haha |
| 05:40.18 | Ponch0 | Infiltrator: the only thing that fixed it made my grub menu prettier. |
| 05:40.27 | Ponch0 | i'm back to command line |
| 05:40.46 | talx | themill:should i be crafting a new sources.list file from a cd |
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| 05:41.00 | Ponch0 | I'm going to sleep thanks everyone. |
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| 05:41.52 | themill | talx: I'm sorry... I have no idea what it is you are trying to do, what the current state of this box is or why you can't provide us with the information we need. |
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| 05:43.30 | Infiltrator | talx: Did you or did you not just do an 'apt-get install python'? |
| 05:44.32 | relipse | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.37 | talx | Infiltrator:I tried that earlier, but it comes up with no avalaible crap |
| 05:45.48 | Infiltrator | talx: Then when you again have access to the system, we'll need to see sources.list. Can't do much before that; but we can tell you that we suspect that you're missing deb lines in there (or haven't done an apt-get update). |
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| 05:46.46 | talx | Infiltartor:looks like it is not in my sources.list and an updatedoes not complete because of secuirty.debian.org link |
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| 05:47.28 | irritatednoobish | hey |
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| 05:56.00 | irritatednoobish | just tried to install debian from a netinst cd but it didnt recognize my wireless information, i'm now on my 3rd attempt to try to install Squeeze, I've got the wireless drivers it recommended on a USB stick plugged into the laptop, |
| 05:56.11 | irritatednoobish | now it's just wiping the harddrive |
| 05:56.40 | irritatednoobish | before it was installing okay but then going to a command line interface |
| 05:56.47 | irritatednoobish | and not even recognizing "startx" |
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| 05:57.54 | irritatednoobish | I really just want to use Squeeze, and install the packages I usually use |
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| 05:58.19 | irritatednoobish | can anyone help me? |
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| 06:04.12 | dondelelcaro | irritatednoobish: if you were able to boot to a comand line, then that's good enough to start with |
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| 06:04.26 | dondelelcaro | irritatednoobish: you can use the usb stick to install whatever firmware you need |
| 06:04.40 | dondelelcaro | irritatednoobish: alternatively, /msg dpkg kmuto and use one of the install disks which has all of the firmware |
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| 06:07.23 | irritatednoobish | brb |
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| 06:11.11 | irritatednoobish | luckily I have a spare burnt install disc for Window$ 7, gonna make a partition after i'm done installing that will be back tomorrow maybe |
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| 06:11.39 | irritatednoobish | sorry for being such a noob |
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| 06:13.54 | vadim | hi all. is it possible to sync my ipad4 with debian stable? |
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| 06:16.04 | Infiltrator | vadim: If you mean run itunes, then I don't think so; but you can talk to the ipad. |
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| 06:16.59 | talx | how about just installing wheezy on the ipda4? |
| 06:17.00 | vadim | Infiltrator: no, I don't need full sync, Just want to have ability to put mp3 into it and to take photos from it |
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| 06:20.34 | talx | how would i go about installing ssh on my ipda4? |
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| 06:22.12 | Infiltrator | talx: Client or server? |
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| 06:22.49 | talx | Infiltrator:hey just the client, lol |
| 06:23.12 | Infiltrator | vadim: http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone |
| 06:23.35 | Infiltrator | talx: There are a few different ones; search for ssh in the app store. (Ugh; I feel dirty just saying that.) |
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| 06:24.12 | talx | oops, quick and dirty is my style |
| 06:24.15 | zerox | http://www.libimobiledevice.org/ |
| 06:24.17 | kay- | hat |
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| 06:24.19 | kay- | hawt |
| 06:24.23 | Penix | pants |
| 06:24.25 | zerox | libimobiledevice can access user data in iOS 6.1. |
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| 06:24.47 | zerox | For jailbroken iOS, it should be able to access entire filesystem. |
| 06:25.45 | talx | nice to know |
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| 06:30.31 | relipse | where is the apt-get sources list file? |
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| 06:31.19 | relipse | --> /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 06:34.13 | Penix | ooh. wait...I know this one |
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| 06:35.34 | D4CH_RPi | Hello, I'm quite a noob and I need a bit of help. How do I start a process with only knowing its name? |
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| 06:35.40 | D4CH_RPi | I'm talking about lighttpd |
| 06:36.10 | babilen | D4CH_RPi: Are you using raspbian? |
| 06:36.13 | D4CH_RPi | Yes |
| 06:36.19 | babilen | dpkg: raspbian |
| 06:36.19 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 06:36.20 | D4CH_RPi | I thought it was based on Debian? |
| 06:36.54 | babilen | D4CH_RPi: Yeah, but we only support Debian in here for a number of technical and social reasons. |
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| 06:37.24 | babilen | Most daemons ship an init file though. Look into service(8) |
| 06:37.29 | D4CH_RPi | Okay, I will try #rasbian :) |
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| 06:38.25 | relipse | i'm trying to setup an email administration to add new mailboxes and aliases but i just got postfix admin setup and it is not forwarding my mail??? |
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| 06:45.56 | talx | relipse:how much mail do you expect to move, for a few mailboxes you can use the cmdline |
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| 06:51.49 | Kiranos | I have a wierd ipv6 issue with apt-get update |
| 06:51.52 | Kiranos | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 06:51.52 | Kiranos | security.debian.org.631INAAAA2001:8d8:580:400:6564:a62:0:2 |
| 06:51.52 | Kiranos | security.debian.org.631INAAAA2001:a78:5:0:216:35ff:fe7f:be4f |
| 06:51.57 | Kiranos | curl 2001:8d8:580:400:6564:a62:0:2 |
| 06:51.57 | Kiranos | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host '2001:8d8:580:400:6564:a62:0' |
| 06:51.58 | Kiranos | curl 2001:a78:5:0:216:35ff:fe7f:be4f |
| 06:52.00 | Kiranos | <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> |
| 06:52.24 | Kiranos | anyone seen this? why the first AAAA pointer doesnt answe on curl and stips the last :2 ? |
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| 07:32.14 | axgb | Hello |
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| 07:33.28 | yucatan | how can i reboot into e2fsck ? |
| 07:34.16 | boudiccas | just been trying to boot into awesome wm, but its not in the gdm3 greeter oohjamaflip! So how do I get it back please? |
| 07:34.59 | axgb | Hi, when I turn on my laptop running debian, it spends about a minute, before starting up, trying to connect to ethernet network, even if there is no connection. It tries to connect until it times out |
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| 07:35.42 | irritatednoobish | hey, |
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| 07:35.52 | irritatednoobish | was here earlier, but same question, |
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| 07:36.31 | irritatednoobish | I'm trying to install Squeeze on my ThinkPad Edge but when I start up there's no GUI, just CLI |
| 07:36.49 | irritatednoobish | also it is not picking up any wireless signal |
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| 07:37.11 | axgb | I would say for you the main priority is to get the wireless to work |
| 07:37.23 | irritatednoobish | right |
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| 07:37.39 | irritatednoobish | so I downloaded the packages it recommended |
| 07:37.39 | axgb | sorry, I meant the main priority was for the gui to work, and until that works you can connect via wired network |
| 07:37.46 | irritatednoobish | oh |
| 07:37.53 | irritatednoobish | yeah |
| 07:37.57 | irritatednoobish | makes more sense heh |
| 07:38.07 | irritatednoobish | so how do I get the GUI to work? |
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| 07:38.19 | irritatednoobish | I was using a netinst disc to install Squeeze |
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| 07:38.41 | irritatednoobish | I currently can't connect to an Ethernet network, though will be able to sometime tomorrow |
| 07:38.55 | irritatednoobish | is there anything I can do at the moment? |
| 07:39.15 | xand | I would consider using wheezy - or at least squeeze with a newer kernel |
| 07:39.30 | shomon | hi, I'm trying to install IE - to test how badly it messes up some websites |
| 07:39.35 | talx | just walk aound with a usb hehe |
| 07:39.41 | shomon | so.. I've followed instructions and got wine and ies4linux |
| 07:39.43 | shomon | but... |
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| 07:40.00 | irritatednoobish | how do I install even just the most basic X Window System if apt-get can't connect to the net |
| 07:40.01 | shomon | argh can't find the error... oops |
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| 07:40.03 | axgb | When you installed debian, did it say anything about non-free drivers that need installing, and it asks you to insert a memory stick with those? did that happen |
| 07:40.15 | irritatednoobish | nope |
| 07:40.20 | axgb | ok |
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| 07:40.30 | xand | irritatednoobish: you can't with the netinstall disc |
| 07:40.34 | shomon | Your wine does not have wineprefixcreate installed. Maybe you are running an old Wine version. Try to update it to the latest version. |
| 07:40.37 | shomon | how do you fix that? |
| 07:41.19 | irritatednoobish | so tomorrow once I'm able to plug into a wireless network using the Ethernet right into the modem, I'll try reinstalling from the top |
| 07:41.36 | irritatednoobish | or the router or whateve |
| 07:41.37 | irritatednoobish | r |
| 07:41.40 | axgb | irritatednoob, try typing the command startx |
| 07:41.57 | irritatednoobish | command not found |
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| 07:41.59 | xand | irritatednoobish: but if you could, you should run tasksel and choose the top option there - Graphical desktop environment |
| 07:42.01 | yucatan | hello guys some strange is going on on my machine debian is unable to read/write some files |
| 07:42.03 | xand | and also the Laptop one |
| 07:42.29 | EmleyMoor | "some files"? And what happens exactly? |
| 07:42.30 | yucatan | i think raid is going wrong |
| 07:42.34 | irritatednoobish | taskel also says command not found |
| 07:42.40 | yucatan | i cannot upload certain files |
| 07:42.42 | nyuszika7h | irritatednoobish: tasksel, not taskel |
| 07:43.08 | yucatan | [ 7.992555] EXT4-fs (md3): warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended |
| 07:43.12 | yucatan | i found that in dmesg |
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| 07:43.45 | yucatan | and i already did : shutdown -Fr |
| 07:43.58 | axgb | Irritated noob, I am not sure what to do |
| 07:44.02 | EmleyMoor | yucatan: Well, that's as maybe - it shouldn't stop you doing anything. We need a clear example of what it is you can't do, and what exactly happens when you try |
| 07:44.18 | irritatednoobish | 'debconf: DbDriver "config": could not write /var/cache/debconf/config.dat-new: Permission denied |
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| 07:44.42 | irritatednoobish | tasksel: debconf failed to run' |
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| 07:45.17 | irritatednoobish | that's what it says when I try tasksel and then choose to install manual package selection |
| 07:45.26 | axgb | Hi, when I turn on my laptop running debian, it spends about a minute, before starting up, trying to connect to ethernet network, even if there is no connection. It tries to connect until it times out |
| 07:46.08 | anddam | axgb: PXEboot? |
| 07:46.11 | EmleyMoor | axgb: That sounds like PXE to me - something you may be able to turn off in the BIOS |
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| 07:46.36 | irritatednoobish | I chose to make a NetInst disc since before booting from the CD the net connection was working fine on the ThinkPad |
| 07:46.57 | irritatednoobish | figured I'd be able to hang on to the connected state |
| 07:47.00 | shomon | how do I install wineprefixcreate? |
| 07:47.14 | anddam | I'm on i386 stable, I've setup sid backports but the package I'd like to install isn't in my arch tree. Can I fetch source from a different arch? |
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| 07:47.44 | yucatan | when i upload a file ut it fails when completed with no such file or diractory |
| 07:47.46 | axgb | no, not bios, it is within debian - when i pick debian in grub, it boots into debian, when debian is starting up, it shows some text, and for about a minute tries to connect to wired network during that time. There must be some kind of auto-connect thing |
| 07:47.47 | yucatan | or premission denied |
| 07:48.05 | EmleyMoor | anddam: What is it you want to install? |
| 07:48.10 | talx | irritatednoobish:so it is, maybe the netinstallcd does not have a drv for your device/netwcard |
| 07:48.21 | irritatednoobish | right |
| 07:48.29 | irritatednoobish | i have the drivers on a usb stick |
| 07:48.29 | EmleyMoor | yucatan: you are being very nonspecific... |
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| 07:48.44 | irritatednoobish | which it didnt read when I told the installer to check removable media |
| 07:48.57 | irritatednoobish | maybe because it's formatted wrong? |
| 07:48.59 | pagios | hello i would like to allow ftp access to a user but no shell access when i set /bin/false in his account he canot log into ftp |
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| 07:49.45 | yucatan | how can i view the current raid stat us of debian? |
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| 07:50.06 | EmleyMoor | yucatan: cat /proc/mdstat |
| 07:50.12 | anddam | EmleyMoor: unfs3 |
| 07:50.35 | anddam | EmleyMoor: it's only in avr and m68k sid (suprise) |
| 07:50.54 | anddam | EmleyMoor: well or any other user space NFS server, I couldn't find any in PDo |
| 07:50.55 | irritatednoobish | so, when I am able to connect the laptop to the ethernet once I'm back home, |
| 07:51.08 | irritatednoobish | should I try to do something like "apt-get install xorg" |
| 07:51.10 | irritatednoobish | ? |
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| 07:52.36 | irritatednoobish | It just seems so weird that it wouldn't even assume I want a GUI |
| 07:52.42 | talx | irritatednoobish:look for xorg-server in the sources.list |
| 07:52.46 | yucatan | http://pastebin.com/DUDJNUJz |
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| 07:53.45 | irritatednoobish | I just typed "nano sources.list" to view it in nano and it's a blank nothing |
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| 07:53.51 | irritatednoobish | as though I created the file |
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| 07:54.19 | EmleyMoor | anddam: I don't know of any userspace nfs server these days... |
| 07:54.29 | EmleyMoor | Why do you particularly need one? |
| 07:54.40 | talx | irritatednoobish:ouch, the file is intermitent no need to create it |
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| 07:54.47 | axgb | addam, emmleymoor, does not happen at bios time, it happens at the time when debian is starting up |
| 07:55.11 | irritatednoobish | okay |
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| 07:55.20 | talx | lol |
| 07:55.32 | axgb | It says "dhcp descover at eth0 255.255.255.255" or something like that, it keeps saying that until it times out |
| 07:56.00 | EmleyMoor | axgb: Ah... what do you use by way of networking? |
| 07:56.07 | irritatednoobish | If I made a full install DVD and reinstalled with the ethernet and net signal going thru it, |
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| 07:56.14 | axgb | I use wicd |
| 07:56.26 | irritatednoobish | would I be able to install it with GUI and net capabilities? |
| 07:56.42 | axgb | does wicd have some type of autostart setting |
| 07:56.44 | EmleyMoor | axgb: edit /etc/network/interfaces - comment out anything relating to eth0 |
| 07:57.14 | EmleyMoor | irritatednoobish: You should |
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| 07:57.28 | EmleyMoor | did his ThinkPad initial setup that way |
| 07:57.35 | irritatednoobish | okay |
| 07:57.45 | EmleyMoor | irritatednoobish: Which ThinkPad do you have? |
| 07:57.54 | irritatednoobish | Edge E420 I believe |
| 07:58.01 | axgb | but eht0 is ethernet connection I sometimes use, it is irritating for it to be delayed |
| 07:58.06 | axgb | does wicd not rely on that file |
| 07:58.08 | irritatednoobish | it's a 320 gig HDD |
| 07:58.20 | EmleyMoor | axgb: Not references to eth0 therein at least... |
| 07:58.36 | anddam | EmleyMoor: because I'd like to remotely mount a volume that is on a Debian host |
| 07:58.51 | EmleyMoor | axgb: You can probably use network-manager instead... |
| 07:58.54 | anddam | EmleyMoor: did you mean why am I asking for user space rather than kernel space? |
| 07:59.05 | axgb | no i changed from network manager to wicd |
| 07:59.25 | EmleyMoor | anddam: Hang on, you want to mount something from another machine? |
| 07:59.38 | EmleyMoor | axgb: Oh, wicd is an alternative? Hmmm... |
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| 07:59.42 | JacquesBH | Hi all |
| 07:59.44 | irritatednoobish | is there a list of machines that require no deliberation re: internet setup for Debian? |
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| 07:59.53 | anddam | axgb: that's not "before starting up", that's an already started system |
| 07:59.54 | irritatednoobish | Hi Jacques |
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| 08:00.03 | axgb | wicd is a network manager |
| 08:00.07 | axgb | yes, that is what I meant |
| 08:00.09 | talx | irritatednoobish:have you tried picking up the netinstall where it left off |
| 08:00.10 | anddam | EmleyMoor: yes, the debian host will be the server |
| 08:00.14 | JacquesBH | I need to install a specific package on my distrib... I've the url (it's php 5.3.18 http://archives.dotdeb.org/dists/squeeze/php5/5.3.18/ ) but I don't know how do that |
| 08:00.28 | axgb | I did as you said and it now boots up in 10 secs instead of a minute |
| 08:00.29 | irritatednoobish | picking it up where it left off? |
| 08:00.30 | axgb | thanks |
| 08:00.37 | talx | yup |
| 08:00.38 | irritatednoobish | I'll try the expert install |
| 08:00.39 | EmleyMoor | anddam: This is getting more confusing |
| 08:00.45 | irritatednoobish | i don't know what you mean exactly |
| 08:01.01 | EmleyMoor | anddam: Are you wanting to mount an nfs from another machine onto yours? |
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| 08:01.07 | anddam | EmleyMoor: it doesn't seem confusing to me, I want to install an NFS user space server, I picked unfs3 |
| 08:01.07 | talx | irritatednoobish:what is the expert install |
| 08:01.25 | irritatednoobish | a version of the install with lots more options |
| 08:01.37 | anddam | EmleyMoor: both machines are mine, let's refer to them as client and server |
| 08:01.39 | yucatan | how can i run checkdisk on raid on reboot ? |
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| 08:01.55 | talx | irritatednoobish:how do you get that started on the cmd line |
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| 08:02.24 | EmleyMoor | anddam: So, this is the server we are dealing with, then? You want to serve an nfs from it? |
| 08:02.31 | irritatednoobish | I don't, it's from rebootung and trying to reinstall from scratch again |
| 08:02.56 | anddam | EmleyMoor: yes, that's the reason why I'm asking for an user space NFS server |
| 08:02.57 | talx | irritatednoobish:yeah well that is not what i mean |
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| 08:03.10 | EmleyMoor | anddam: OK, why do you particularly want a user space NFS server? |
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| 08:03.21 | anddam | EmleyMoor: openvz, no support from VPS vendor |
| 08:03.28 | anddam | no *NFS* support |
| 08:03.52 | EmleyMoor | Oh, so you are not the "owner" of the server? |
| 08:03.55 | irritatednoobish | I don't know how to continue from the netinstall disc from where it left off |
| 08:04.05 | JacquesBH | Nobody knows how to install an old package ? With specific url, like on this mirror http://archives-php53.dotdeb.org |
| 08:04.20 | anddam | the Debian server -> yes, the whole infrastructure offering openvz VMs -> no |
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| 08:04.54 | anddam | EmleyMoor: is the picture clearer? |
| 08:05.04 | JacquesBH | Chuck ! Where are you ? I need you ! ;) |
| 08:05.09 | EmleyMoor | anddam: Less clear, if anything |
| 08:05.18 | JacquesBH | Where is Norris... |
| 08:06.03 | anddam | EmleyMoor: that's discouraging, I thought I wrote clear and descriptive lines |
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| 08:06.19 | jpw | anddam: so you want to install a userspace nfs server. fine, but what's the issue? |
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| 08:06.27 | EmleyMoor | anddam: Are you saying the server is a VM running a specific kernel over which you have no control? |
| 08:06.39 | EmleyMoor | jpw: finding one is his problem |
| 08:06.48 | anddam | EmleyMoor: yes, the VPS vendor explictly states they don't want to support NFS modules |
| 08:06.54 | anddam | EmleyMoor: nope that's not the problem |
| 08:07.15 | irritatednoobish | okay its on Configure the network part of install |
| 08:07.19 | EmleyMoor | anddam: So, it's running a kernel of which you have control? |
| 08:07.46 | Trewas | anddam: why can't you use samba or something that does not require kernel support? NFS over internet (as opposed to LAN) is a horrible idea by the way |
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| 08:07.58 | anddam | my original question is: sid has avr32 and m68k package for unfs3, is there a way I can fetch the source for the deb package even if I'm on i386? I'd like to backport it and install |
| 08:08.08 | thunderclaws | Hello, can someone please recommend me (or link me to a good page) for terminal colors that are least eye straining? |
| 08:08.17 | anddam | EmleyMoor: no, I don't have control over the kernel |
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| 08:08.49 | anddam | just to be clear: I can install unfs3 from source, I'd just rather have the package installed via APT, if possible |
| 08:09.32 | ws2k3 | anyone? |
| 08:09.43 | irritatednoobish | i told it the name of the wireless network since before it couldnt detect on |
| 08:09.54 | irritatednoobish | now it's just setting up the clock |
| 08:10.00 | anddam | but I don't know about the debian package building system, I don't know where packages for a specific arch are kept and how I can use a local file with package description |
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| 08:10.45 | anddam | jpw: is my question clear? |
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| 08:11.15 | EmleyMoor | The package "nfs-user-server" is not available these days - that used to be what you had to install... |
| 08:11.16 | jpw | anddam: yes it is now. let me just do a bit of digging. |
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| 08:11.34 | anddam | jpw: oh, you playin' Minecraft? |
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| 08:11.40 | Iridos | anddam, you could normally download the source from packages.debian.org, but these are unofficial ports out of debports and there seems to be no source. So get the tar.gz from their sourceforge site |
| 08:11.48 | irritatednoobish | I feel like it may slightly work now, all because I supplied it the name of the wifi network, whcih it didnt recognize before |
| 08:11.49 | anddam | (yes, that's a joke) |
| 08:12.01 | jpw | gah - minecraft *grumble* |
| 08:12.23 | EmleyMoor | irritatednoobish: That's possible - if the installer can cope with whatever security you're using |
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| 08:12.27 | irritatednoobish | currently wiping sda1 clean |
| 08:12.41 | anddam | Iridos: that I already did, I'm taking this as a learning moment to see if there's a way to have it in APT |
| 08:12.53 | anddam | s/it/unfs3/ |
| 08:12.58 | Iridos | anddam, anyway, what advantages do you think you get from installing a self-made package with dpkg over installing in /usr/local e.g. using stow |
| 08:12.59 | irritatednoobish | trying ext4 this time instead of ext3 |
| 08:13.16 | anddam | Iridos: uninstalling facility |
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| 08:13.26 | anddam | I have to search "stow" |
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| 08:13.56 | EmleyMoor | stow, or better still, xstow, is a way of managing your /usr/local area... I use it a bit... |
| 08:14.07 | anddam | dpkg died, I remember there were other bots, what are they called=? |
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| 08:14.11 | Iridos | anddam, most easily done doing rm -rf /usr/local/unfs3 (and deleting any dangling symlinks in /usr/local if oyu use stow) |
| 08:14.27 | Iridos | apt, stow |
| 08:14.27 | apt | i guess stow is Stow can be found at http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/just apt-get install stow Quick Intro to stow: ./configure && make && make install prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-version; cd /usr/local/stow/ ; stow program-version. Use stow -D to remove. |
| 08:14.40 | EmleyMoor | Build packages as normal but when you make install, do make install prefix=/usr/local/stow/package... |
| 08:14.49 | Iridos | ah, stow -D :) |
| 08:14.53 | anddam | Iridos: you never knows what lies in a makefile |
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| 08:15.05 | EmleyMoor | Then from /usr/local/stow, do xstow package (or stow package) |
| 08:15.24 | anddam | EmleyMoor: I've seen a lot of oddly maintained software not supporting prefix or destdir |
| 08:15.29 | anddam | or hardconding their paths |
| 08:15.31 | anddam | coding* |
| 08:16.02 | EmleyMoor | anddam: There is some about, and obviously stow is not a simple solution for those, but for unfs3 it should be fine. |
| 08:16.20 | anddam | again, this was meant as a general question to understand slighlty better how building APT works, not specific to this issue |
| 08:16.37 | Iridos | anddam, well, installing with a prefix works for any decent project. as I see it, self-made packages don't give you most of the advantages of packages from the repo... i.e. oyu don't get updates semi-automagically... only advantage I see is that you cannot remove packages which the software depends on |
| 08:16.48 | irritatednoobish | I had finally installed slackware, and I am still interested in slackware, but since I couldn't get gslapt to work, I realized that besides compatibility with flash, etc, I really missed Synaptic |
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| 08:17.12 | irritatednoobish | Synaptic is the best package manager I could ask for |
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| 08:18.30 | jpw | irritatednoobish: Synaptic isnt a package manage it's a front end for apt... |
| 08:19.03 | irritatednoobish | right |
| 08:19.13 | irritatednoobish | well using synaptic |
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| 08:19.20 | irritatednoobish | and even just apt, |
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| 08:19.51 | axgb | Hi |
| 08:19.56 | Sakara | Hi |
| 08:19.57 | irritatednoobish | Synaptic and apt-get... I wish all software installation was that easy |
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| 08:20.03 | irritatednoobish | Hi |
| 08:20.17 | axgb | I tried to install grub customizer according to instructions, and it comes up with an error message. It says Error 2 |
| 08:20.51 | ws2k3 | anyone? |
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| 08:25.16 | irritatednoobish | so, if this does recognize the wifi here |
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| 08:25.52 | irritatednoobish | what do I do if it sticks to still being CLI only? apt-get install xorg-server ? |
| 08:26.39 | EmleyMoor | tasksel and choose "desktop environment". You may need to install a special driver for best results too. |
| 08:26.54 | JacquesBH | I re-ask because I really need help. I need to use this old mirror : http://archives.dotdeb.org to purpose to install php5.3.18 (http://archives.dotdeb.org/dists/squeeze/php5/)... somebody knows how to do that ? |
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| 08:32.12 | FishyCodeSmell | I want to create a build environment on a centos machine that compiles software and build packages for debian machines. |
| 08:32.36 | FishyCodeSmell | Is it better to use a headless VM or a chroot environment? |
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| 08:34.18 | shomon | anyone know how to get wine working properly in debian? I have it but it says I don't have wineprefixcreate, and complains it's too low a version for it, but it's 1.4 - which I think already should have wineprefixcreate |
| 08:34.20 | BadCodSmell | My opinion is that chroot might be easier but can be escaped, VM is safer/more contained but a little more tricky. |
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| 08:35.24 | Danielss89 | hi |
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| 08:35.39 | BadCodSmell | Hmm debbootstrap looks good |
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| 08:36.26 | Danielss89 | So, i have a file somewhere on my system and i don't remember where it is or exactly what type it is(it's a text file though, but i don't remember if its .conf or .rb or .php or whatever) |
| 08:36.43 | Danielss89 | can i somehow search for this file through it's content? i know it contains "5000/notification/github" |
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| 08:37.09 | shomon | yeah Danielss89 |
| 08:37.10 | BadCodSmell | find / -type f -exec grep -HnF "5000/notification/github" {} \; |
| 08:37.12 | shomon | grep -r |
| 08:37.45 | shomon | you'll have to escape the slashes though |
| 08:37.48 | shomon | iirc |
| 08:38.04 | BadCodSmell | you can add perhaps -name = "*?.?*" and so forth |
| 08:38.16 | Danielss89 | hmm BadCodSmell : http://ds.gl/7b2b74.png |
| 08:38.20 | Danielss89 | is that suppose to happen? |
| 08:38.36 | BadCodSmell | yes |
| 08:38.39 | Danielss89 | ok |
| 08:38.44 | BadCodSmell | you can add some exclude or something |
| 08:38.48 | irritatednoobish | I sure hope tasksel will work this time... |
| 08:38.54 | BadCodSmell | honestly just search home var usr manually though |
| 08:39.13 | BadCodSmell | find /{home,usr,var,root} or something |
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| 08:39.27 | Danielss89 | ok i'll try, thx |
| 08:39.52 | irritatednoobish | Next time, I'll just buy a PC with Debian already installed |
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| 08:53.19 | ws2k3 | how can i reboot and reform a fsck on my raid |
| 08:53.37 | ws2k3 | when i reboot fsck isnt runned on my partitions |
| 08:54.51 | jelly | ws2k3: /msg dpkg forcefsck |
| 08:55.38 | ws2k3 | yeah but i wanne do it on boot |
| 08:55.45 | ws2k3 | becaus ei also wany my root system to be scanned |
| 08:56.14 | peterrooney | ws2k3: then use shutdown's fsck options |
| 08:56.17 | jelly | ws2k3: read. that. factoid. |
| 08:56.35 | peterrooney | jelly: you're hopeful. |
| 08:56.42 | jelly | ws2k3: it answers EXACTLY your "but" |
| 08:56.44 | jpw | jelly: dpkg was down this morning |
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| 08:56.52 | jelly | jpw: it's not down now. |
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| 08:57.13 | jpw | ha i see |
| 08:57.18 | jpw | nvm |
| 08:57.19 | jelly | usually checks the factoids before suggesting them |
| 08:57.33 | ws2k3 | so shutdown -Fr now ? |
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| 08:58.35 | ws2k3 | because i have dont that and when the system comes it the the scan isnt done |
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| 08:59.39 | jpw | ws2k3 you can confirm that an fsck by enabling bootlogd. Change the value in /etc/default/bootlogd. run the command suggested in the factoid then check /var/log/bootlogd when the server comes back. |
| 08:59.57 | jpw | ws2k3: don't forget to disable it again. |
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| 09:01.53 | jelly | bootlogd is nice |
| 09:02.07 | ws2k3 | jpw bootlog is disabled at the moment |
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| 09:02.53 | jpw | dpkg: tell ws2k3 about bootlogd |
| 09:03.19 | ws2k3 | ok |
| 09:03.20 | ws2k3 | i enabled it |
| 09:03.25 | ws2k3 | and did a reboot |
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| 09:05.37 | irritatednoobish | okay, so after this install is done I run tasksel and look for desktop environment |
| 09:05.40 | irritatednoobish | and then choose one? |
| 09:06.05 | ws2k3 | i have enabled it |
| 09:06.08 | ws2k3 | and rebooted |
| 09:06.16 | ws2k3 | but i dont have a var/log/bootlogd |
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| 09:07.35 | irritatednoobish | I'm determined to go to bed as soon as I can see a working GUI on my install, |
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| 09:08.56 | irritatednoobish | is looking forward to sleeping as soon as possible immediately after getting Squeeze working |
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| 09:09.59 | ws2k3 | any idea what this could mean : http://pastebin.com/e6cv76HV |
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| 09:12.09 | JacquesBH | I re-ask because I really need help. I need to use this old mirror : http://archives.dotdeb.org to purpose to install php5.3.18 (http://archives.dotdeb.org/dists/squeeze/php5/)... somebody knows how to do that ? |
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| 09:14.47 | jpw | JacquesBH: Can you not download the .deb and install with `dpkg -i package.deb` ? |
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| 09:17.49 | ws2k3 | anyone? |
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| 09:18.31 | irritatednoobish | sorry ws2k3 and JacquesBH no clue |
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| 09:19.06 | JacquesBH | jpw: Yes I can |
| 09:19.16 | Tekmans | hi |
| 09:19.18 | JacquesBH | but I prefer to use apt... |
| 09:19.33 | irritatednoobish | hi Tekmans |
| 09:19.44 | JacquesBH | jpw: I think the archives.dotdeb.org mirror is malformed |
| 09:20.00 | jpw | JacquesBH: why would you use apt if you specificaly want an old version? |
| 09:20.01 | irritatednoobish | why does it have to be that mirror, JacquesBH? |
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| 09:21.01 | JacquesBH | jpw: because I can use apt-get install, simply... |
| 09:21.22 | JacquesBH | irritatednoobish: because that mirror contains the php 5.3.18 version |
| 09:21.49 | JacquesBH | I think I will install the packages (php and extensions) with dpkg... |
| 09:21.54 | jpw | JacquesBH: sure, but you run the risk of someone unfarmiliar with your system upgrading the package and breaking it. |
| 09:22.05 | Tekmans | i want to list all files in samba share mounted with nautilus |
| 09:22.05 | Tekmans | i want to do something like $ find /path/to/share -name '*' > allmyfile.txt |
| 09:22.05 | Tekmans | where do i find the path to the share ? gvfs ? or |
| 09:22.30 | JacquesBH | jpw: not if I used the good mirror in my sources.list |
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| 09:23.12 | jpw | fails to see the correlation between dotdeb and a good mirror. |
| 09:23.23 | JacquesBH | Tekmans: file /etc/samba/smb.conf will give you all paths |
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| 09:24.27 | JacquesBH | jpw: I need to use an old php version, and archives.dotdeb.org contains it. But I don't know if I can use this archive mirror with apt or not ? |
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| 09:25.29 | JacquesBH | jpw: If I can use apt it will be the best (I think) because if few months later I will upgrade... I just need to change the sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 09:25.31 | zbal_ | howdi |
| 09:25.34 | JacquesBH | jpw: you know? |
| 09:25.47 | Tekmans | JacquesBH, the share couldn't be at this place |
| 09:25.50 | zbal_ | is there a way to extract the control file of an incomplete deb file ? |
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| 09:26.14 | ws2k3 | how can i view the status of my raid? |
| 09:26.26 | Tekmans | they are mounted through networking exploration and mouted directly through nautilus |
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| 09:28.17 | ws2k3 | ? |
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| 09:28.51 | zbal_ | I m trying to do a fetch of the few first bytes of a remote .deb file - and I d like to find a way to extract the package info |
| 09:29.09 | zbal_ | without having to DL the entire sheband |
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| 09:34.00 | ws2k3 | how can i view the status of my raid? |
| 09:34.13 | zbal_ | depends the type of raid |
| 09:34.17 | zbal_ | HW or software ? |
| 09:34.37 | ws2k3 | soft |
| 09:34.53 | ws2k3 | software raid |
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| 09:35.38 | zbal_ | I believe with the mdadm command |
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| 09:37.26 | ws2k3 | when i upload a file to my linux box i get strange erro like no susch file or directory or premisiosn denied i already preformed a fsck check and my raid seems to be okay |
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| 09:39.09 | kaste | well if you try to copy it into a directory where you don't have write permission this might give you errors |
| 09:39.19 | ws2k3 | i'm root |
| 09:39.28 | ws2k3 | so i'm sur ei hav epremisions |
| 09:39.41 | ws2k3 | so i'm sure i have premissions* |
| 09:39.45 | zbal_ | check that the mount has no been remounted readonly |
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| 09:40.07 | zbal_ | you "may" see 'ro' when you type mount |
| 09:40.47 | ws2k3 | nope all got rw |
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| 09:41.14 | ws2k3 | what does this mean : Apr 12 11:36:08 Debian-60-squeeze-64-minimal kernel: [ 690.729829] mdadm: sending ioctl 1261 to a partition! |
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| 09:43.49 | Cristen | Hi everyone, I'm having issues with my squeeze installation, I installed firefox and flashplugin-nonfree. When I go to about:plugins it doesn't show up there, java does. What's wrong ? |
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| 09:44.58 | ws2k3 | or any idea how i should trace this error? |
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| 09:45.16 | kaste | ws2k3: ignore these they are not your problem http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=656899: |
| 09:46.04 | ws2k3 | hmm okay |
| 09:46.05 | zbal_ | I second kaste https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783955#c4 |
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| 09:46.22 | ws2k3 | so how should i fix this that i can reupload data again |
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| 09:46.34 | ws2k3 | or what els i can try |
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| 09:47.14 | zbal_ | what about simply copying files locally |
| 09:47.19 | zbal_ | does it work? |
| 09:47.22 | zbal_ | or same error? |
| 09:47.28 | kaste | How do you upload? I implicitly assumed you scp but now that I reread it, I am not sure |
| 09:47.43 | zbal_ | nfs ? :D |
| 09:47.49 | kaste | If it's http,ftp whatever maybe there are extra persmisions? |
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| 09:47.56 | ws2k3 | i use ssh to upload |
| 09:47.59 | ws2k3 | its ext4 |
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| 09:48.15 | kaste | no acls set? |
| 09:48.23 | zbal_ | ws2k3: what about copy a file locally ? |
| 09:48.28 | zbal_ | cp test test2 |
| 09:49.48 | ws2k3 | hmm |
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| 09:57.11 | Zeeflo | any sshfs gurus here? how do i put my password in the sshfs commandline? |
| 09:57.21 | Zeeflo | sshfs -p xxxxx ?? |
| 09:57.29 | kaste | Zeeflo: please don't |
| 09:57.35 | Zeeflo | huh? |
| 09:57.58 | kaste | It's almost always a better idea to use ssh keys |
| 09:58.23 | Zeeflo | yea? |
| 09:58.32 | kaste | yes |
| 09:58.45 | houser | Does anybody have experience with PostfixAmavisNew ? Is it an efficient spam fighter? |
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| 09:58.59 | kaste | if you could insert it on the commandline (which I think you can't) then it would be visible in ps |
| 09:59.29 | Zeeflo | thats ok.. NO one but me has access to our servers |
| 09:59.52 | Zeeflo | im just wondering if I have to do a script or if I can put the password in the command line |
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| 10:04.59 | kaste | Zeeflo: -o password_stdin |
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| 10:07.53 | Zeeflo | even better yet.. Can I do this in fstab? |
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| 10:08.07 | kaste | no, I don't see how |
| 10:08.18 | kaste | just use sshkyes |
| 10:08.44 | Zeeflo | kaste, can i pm you about this? |
| 10:08.44 | kaste | they have the added benefit that should you ever have a breakin, it won't be as bad, because you can restrict the operations the key is allowd |
| 10:08.51 | kaste | ok |
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| 10:10.23 | babilen | Zeeflo: Just setup some SSH keys with ssh-keygen(1) and copy them around with ssh-copy-id(1) -- That is definitely better than hardcoding passwords in scripts. |
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| 10:11.30 | Zeeflo | yea |
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| 10:11.34 | Zeeflo | im doing that now babilen |
| 10:11.49 | babilen | Zeeflo: I would usually recommend to /also/ use a passphrase on your keys, but that would require you to enter it at one point. You can probably use ssh-agent(1) to cache the passphrase so that you are not asked once keys have been added with ssh-add(1). |
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| 10:13.27 | babilen | Zeeflo: Note that some desktop environments already provide ways to cache the passphrase like the gnome keyring daemon if started with the ssh component (standard setting IIRC) |
| 10:14.48 | babilen | Zeeflo: Well, actually that justs starts a suitably configured ssh-agent, but I just wanted to mention that in case it is relevant. |
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| 10:15.52 | afidegnum | hello good morning, pls anyone know a kind of free wireless hotspot billing system for Linux, Debian, Ubuntu, or any Distro ? |
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| 10:22.27 | chrisirc_ | How do I disable the auto mounting that's active on a Squeeze install? |
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| 10:23.21 | chrisirc_ | After 20 minutes of googling I know there are at least half a dozen ways but haven't found the right one yet. |
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| 10:23.53 | Walther | Trying to update software on a wheezy server, I get "dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable |
| 10:23.56 | Walther | in apt-dater |
| 10:24.19 | Walther | squeeze servers cooperate nicely |
| 10:24.25 | Name141 | How do you do a network install ? Can you tell debian to use HTTP/FTP during install and there is a 'package' folder on a mirror? or is it different ? |
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| 10:29.10 | Name141 | ah I'll just run it through a virtual machine to test it |
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| 10:34.35 | babilen | Walther: Could you paste your /exact/ command and its output on http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 10:37.11 | babilen | Name141: Combine http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch04s05.html.en with http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/apb.html.en (or http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/apbs04.html.en#preseed-mirror be precise) to boot clients via PXE and configure a suitable mirror |
| 10:37.28 | Walther | babilen: Using apt-date (not too familiar with the exact commands under its hood, it uses apt anyway; should be pretty straight-forward apt-get upgrade) http://paste.debian.net/249071/ |
| 10:37.32 | Walther | apt-dater* |
| 10:38.05 | babilen | Walther: I've never used that -- You also failed to paste your exact command. What is it? |
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| 10:38.52 | magmag | guys what is the best distro for a i5 processor, getting somewhat confused between 32bit and 64bit |
| 10:38.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell Walther -about sudo path |
| 10:39.01 | Name141 | 64 |
| 10:39.03 | magmag | ta |
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| 10:39.12 | Walther | babilen: Read my comment; I am not aware of the exact commands that are under apt-dater's hoods. I'm using apt-dater |
| 10:39.13 | babilen | Walther: That would be my guess, but I simply assume that you use sudo somewhere on the way. |
| 10:40.32 | babilen | magmag: Get amd64 and install wheezy -- see <install wheezy> and <wheezy installation guide> for details. If you have a working internet connection during the installation I would recomend to use the netinst images with firmware that are linked in <firmware images wheezy> -- Ask our bot about the factoids in <…> with, for example, "/msg dpkg install wheezy" |
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| 10:41.57 | Name141 | babilen: The install runs fine in the virtual machine. I guess the real machine isn't getting an internet connection |
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| 10:43.18 | babilen | Name141: What exactly do you mean by "network install" ? Did you configure the network during the installation on the real machine? Did that succeed? How did you configure it, how are you connected to the internet and which image (exactly!) did you use for the installation? |
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| 10:49.40 | Name141 | babilen: trying the new one |
| 10:49.53 | Name141 | debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst |
| 10:49.58 | Name141 | I was using the 6.0.6 ISO |
| 10:50.02 | Name141 | till I saw it was updated |
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| 10:54.37 | Name141 | I'm connected via a ViaSat 2 modem connected to one of the ports on the router, since the modem does DHCP I use it as a switch.. I've selected the proper (PCI) NIC.. and now it's installing the base system on the real machine like it's going to end up working properly. |
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| 10:58.35 | Name141 | babilen: yeah the new ISO is working without any issues. Is there anything I need to do to get 'non-free' stuff ? like VLC, or something like that ? |
| 10:58.42 | Name141 | later on of course. |
| 10:59.37 | Zeeflo | you should update your sources list to have non-free and contrib ? |
| 11:00.32 | Name141 | Zeeflo: how so ? |
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| 11:01.17 | Name141 | From http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/ ? |
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| 11:02.23 | Name141 | oh .7 is still squeeze |
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| 11:03.03 | {her|bert} | Name141: add after main contrib and non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 11:03.26 | Name141 | {her|bert}: I assume they'll be just commented out then? |
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| 11:03.34 | Name141 | and then needing uncommented out |
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| 11:05.50 | Zeeflo | babilen, do you remember talking about find /DIR/DIR/-exec echo $(hostname) {} \; > TXT.TXT ? |
| 11:06.57 | Zeeflo | how do I ommit the /DIR/DIR from the TXT.TXT ? |
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| 11:07.37 | {her|bert} | Name141: for example: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 11:07.57 | Name141 | {her|bert}: I figure I'll just worry about it when the install is actually done. |
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| 11:23.44 | Daniel15 | How do I configure Exim so it doesn't handle local mail and is only used for sending email? The mail for my server's hostname is hosted with Google Apps so shouldn't be locally delivered. |
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| 11:25.42 | phix | Daniel15: when you say "doesnt handle local mail" where do you want mail to go? get rejected straight away? (a firewall can do that) get routered to another host? |
| 11:26.06 | phix | some services that you may install on debian require a mail server to function |
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| 11:26.38 | phix | Daniel15: you can setup exim as a smarthost, to route emails sent through google |
| 11:26.50 | phix | sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-conf |
| 11:26.55 | phix | or config I forget which one |
| 11:27.25 | Daniel15 | phix: Sending email to other domains works fine. The MX records for my domain are set to external servers (Google's) but when I send an email from the server to an email at its domain it's delivered locally |
| 11:27.45 | Daniel15 | server's hostname is dan.cx, when I do "mail daniel@dan.cx" and compose an email it gets delivered locally instead of to Google |
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| 11:28.25 | Daniel15 | I don't want to use a smarthost and route all emails through another server |
| 11:28.38 | phix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:29.07 | phix | If that doesnt work then setup a router in /etc/exim4/conf.d/router/ |
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| 11:29.39 | phix | basicallt you want to change the local delivery router to get it to send it to another host or email address |
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| 11:30.57 | Daniel15 | phix: The domain isn't listed in the conf file; dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config says "The local hostname (dan.cx) and 'localhost' are always added to the list given here" but doesn't say how to disable that |
| 11:31.49 | phix | hmmm /etc/hostname is set to dan.cx I am guessing |
| 11:31.55 | Daniel15 | Yes |
| 11:32.03 | phix | will it break much if you change that? :) |
| 11:32.04 | aswen | hi there, while we are analyzing an dns issue with our apache mod_proxy loadbalancer we found that even our old lenny server tries an AAAA lookup for a host before a A query. why is that? |
| 11:32.19 | phix | server01.dan.cx or something |
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| 11:32.26 | phix | just change it from your email domain |
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| 11:32.48 | phix | aswen: that is standard behaviour |
| 11:33.05 | aswen | Phix, thanx, but why? |
| 11:33.06 | phix | aswen: IPv6 is (by default) given higher priority than IPv4 |
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| 11:33.18 | phix | because IPv6 is suppose to replace IPv4 |
| 11:33.32 | phix | infact in many ISPs it has |
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| 11:33.57 | Dagger2 | aswen: it doesn't matter which order it does the lookup in, the records are sorted afterwards anyway |
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| 11:34.39 | aswen | yeah, but i don't want that box to waste time on that. it should only do ipv4 queries |
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| 11:35.28 | Daniel15 | phix: Yeah I'm thinking just changing the hostname will be easiest :P |
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| 11:35.34 | aswen | and the mod_proxy module should cache the longer (that is the real problem, not the ip6 requests) |
| 11:35.42 | phix | aswen: ok so recompile bind without IPv6 support |
| 11:35.52 | phix | Daniel15: I agree |
| 11:35.53 | phix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.06 | phix | your server shouldnt have the same DNS name as your domain name any way |
| 11:36.25 | phix | your domain name should use MX records for mail delivery |
| 11:36.37 | aswen | phix, tnx, there no way to just conf it not to no ip6? |
| 11:36.48 | Daniel15 | Yeah the MX records are all set |
| 11:36.56 | phix | aswen: have you tried reading the documentation? |
| 11:37.06 | phix | if there is a way it will be listed there |
| 11:37.12 | aswen | gehgehegehgehe |
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| 11:37.53 | phix | if not then just sudo apt-get source bind9 and edit the Makefile / config script to disable IPv6 |
| 11:37.55 | aswen | off course i didn't ;-) |
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| 11:38.27 | Dagger2 | I don't think disabling v6 support in bind is going to help much |
| 11:38.29 | aswen | no, i will not recompile bind9 just to alter the behaviour of gethostbyname |
| 11:38.37 | Dagger2 | unless it also happens to disable AAAA record support |
| 11:38.40 | phix | so dont :) |
| 11:38.42 | aswen | or however that works |
| 11:38.55 | tgs3 | how would you log over network, so the log is there in case of hard drive death or system crash before log is synced |
| 11:38.57 | phix | either learn IPv6 or learn bind to disable the feature |
| 11:39.01 | phix | either way it involves reading |
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| 11:39.22 | phix | tgs3: syslog although not sure how it handles crashes |
| 11:39.36 | tgs3 | phix: it can log into UDP right? but how to secure that |
| 11:39.40 | aswen | it was just something that draw our attention while analyzing tcpdumps.. |
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| 11:40.40 | phix | tgs3: umm rsyslogd I think does cyrpto stuff |
| 11:40.41 | aswen | the real problem now is that our mod_proxy every now and then has a nameserver lookup failure *just found an existing bugreport for that) |
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| 11:41.31 | aswen | https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30722 |
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| 11:41.46 | phix | why would it fail for? |
| 11:41.50 | phix | IPv6 wouldnt caues that |
| 11:42.03 | aswen | no it's not ip6's fault |
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| 11:42.30 | diverdude | hi, anybody have experience with linode VPS? Are they good? |
| 11:42.48 | phix | no idea |
| 11:42.52 | aswen | we got a DNS lookup failure in our apache error log and thus were we searching our dns system for faults. |
| 11:42.52 | phix | juet setup your own VPS :_) |
| 11:42.56 | phix | XEN is great |
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| 11:43.46 | Daniel15 | phix: Not sure if I'll break something else but I think I got it working |
| 11:43.52 | pswrdf | I have some working echo and rmmod in my /etc/rc.local but when i append "yes" or "top" before "exit 0" it have no effect in ps -e | grep yes. What I have doing wrong? |
| 11:44.00 | phix | Daniel15: You're like a boss |
| 11:44.14 | Daniel15 | phix: I changed "driver = accept" to "driver = dnslookup" and "transport = LOCAL_DELIVERY" to "transport = remote_smtp" in the local_user section in exim4.conf.template |
| 11:44.43 | phix | Daniel15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c |
| 11:45.28 | Daniel15 | :D |
| 11:46.09 | Daniel15 | diverdude: Linode are good but they're a bit more expensive than other providers |
| 11:46.55 | diverdude | daniel-s, i see, do you know why? and do they also provide better quality then? and do you know better alternatives? |
| 11:47.50 | phix | Daniel15: like a bousss! |
| 11:48.09 | phix | Amazon is free for a year |
| 11:48.17 | phix | for testing purposes it is great |
| 11:48.26 | phix | EC2 |
| 11:48.30 | asturel | and compile a hello world takes minutes |
| 11:48.41 | asturel | i compiled znc within 20min |
| 11:48.54 | diverdude | phix, yes...but they are damned expensive after a year...and isn't it actually only about 750 hours? |
| 11:48.56 | diverdude | free |
| 11:48.59 | Daniel15 | diverdude: I did use Linode for a bit, their support is great. I'm currently using BuyVM.net |
| 11:49.13 | diverdude | daniel-s, you changed due to price? |
| 11:49.16 | asturel | 750 h / mo. |
| 11:49.33 | asturel | for a year |
| 11:49.43 | asturel | if u run one instance its enought |
| 11:50.29 | diverdude | asturel, really? its 750 per month? Thats basically a full month |
| 11:50.36 | asturel | yeah |
| 11:50.38 | Daniel15 | diverdude: I had a Linode VPS ages ago, and BuyVM VPS just to try them out. Ended up keeping the BuyVM and migrating my sites from a dedicated server onto a VPS (I didn't really need the power of a dedi any more). Also I'm Daniel15 not daniel-s :P |
| 11:51.00 | asturel | and u can have a free elastic ip too |
| 11:51.16 | asturel | but the IOs limited too |
| 11:51.22 | Daniel15 | Migrated relatively recently so I'm still moving sites from the dedicated server. Migrating from cPanel + Apache to Nginx at the same time so I'm doing sites one by one |
| 11:51.33 | asturel | and if u do some cpu instensive thing it going to be slow as hell |
| 11:51.42 | asturel | when i compiled znc i wasnt even able to ssh into it :D |
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| 11:53.01 | anddam | is normal that xstow copied man page files rather than linking them? |
| 11:53.04 | diverdude | asturel, im not gonna do any cpu intensive stuff...just run small websites |
| 11:53.37 | asturel | also 15GB out bw free |
| 11:53.49 | Daniel15 | A friend told me that the "High-Memory Quadruple Extra Large Instance" instances can compile the Linux kernel in 58 seconds :P |
| 11:54.06 | Daniel15 | 68.4 GiB of memory, 26 EC2 Compute Units (8 virtual cores with 3.25 EC2 Compute Units each) |
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| 11:55.05 | asturel | and for the 58 he have his everything?:D |
| 11:55.11 | asturel | gave* |
| 11:55.16 | asturel | -his :D |
| 11:55.27 | diverdude | asturel, is it possible to see amount of time spent in amazon? I already have a naccount there |
| 11:55.38 | asturel | ? its under account activity |
| 11:55.53 | asturel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.52 | asturel | btw u can even set billing alert |
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| 12:50.20 | Penix | wow |
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| 12:59.12 | Penix | sussudio: do something! |
| 12:59.54 | Penix | this place needs some serious badgers and mushrooms |
| 13:00.03 | abrotman | watches as sussudio does something |
| 13:00.12 | abrotman | dpkg: penixsmite penix |
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| 13:00.13 | dpkg | i don't know, abrotman |
| 13:00.13 | Penix | oh! look! he's doing it! |
| 13:00.15 | abrotman | :( |
| 13:00.18 | Penix | aww |
| 13:00.23 | abrotman | dpkg: meep |
| 13:00.23 | dpkg | [meep] #del# |
| 13:00.26 | abrotman | !!!! |
| 13:00.27 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 13:00.29 | Penix | apt: penixsmite me |
| 13:00.35 | Penix | omg. shit |
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| 13:00.44 | abrotman | apt is barely working these days |
| 13:00.48 | Penix | what's happened to this place.... |
| 13:01.17 | abrotman | dpkg: penixstrike Penix |
| 13:01.17 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Penix to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 13:01.21 | Penix | yes! |
| 13:01.22 | abrotman | there we go |
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| 13:02.25 | Iridos | 🐻🐻🐻? 🍄? |
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| 13:02.31 | Penix | Iridos: quiet! |
| 13:02.38 | Penix | he's about to do something |
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| 13:02.52 | Iridos | actually all the party went to #debian-offtopic years ago... including the cooking courses |
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| 13:03.25 | Penix | pfft. Sacrilege! |
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| 13:04.17 | Iridos | 🐍ilege? |
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| 13:04.50 | Penix | no lights. no music |
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| 13:05.18 | Penix | in the end, it all goes away |
| 13:05.21 | pmo | penix doesnt run punix, just anux |
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| 13:08.45 | ChrisH | Losowski: as you fully tested every aspect: Which distro provides securoty fixes fastest? |
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| 13:09.45 | terr1 | Are grsecurity recommended on normal webservers or overkill? Imo. it seems like grsecurity isent very documented contra SELinux? |
| 13:10.11 | pmo | personal pref i guess |
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| 13:10.29 | Losowski | ChrisH: In this respect, Debian and SUSE have done quite a good job. In fact, on LWN.net, security updates of all three are posted quite promptly. Arch lags only a bit. |
| 13:10.42 | pmo | if you run php on the webserver i would advice going overkill |
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| 13:11.27 | pmo | also have the privs for php drop down to the user account |
| 13:12.04 | abrotman | there's also SELinux |
| 13:12.16 | abrotman | not the same ball of wax exactly |
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| 13:12.33 | pmo | anyways http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/selinux-vs-apparmor-vs-grsecurity.html |
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| 13:14.02 | pmo | New user / ease of use : Grsecurity |
| 13:14.03 | pmo | Most powerful access control mechanism : SELinux |
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| 13:15.20 | terr1 | pmo: Thanks |
| 13:15.25 | pmo | np |
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| 13:15.44 | pmo | if you need help with any of them howtoforge.com is a good place :) |
| 13:16.13 | Fecn | Hi Folks - is the the right place for questions about d-i preseed, or is there a dedicated room somewhere for that.. (Crappy IRC client I'm using can't even get a rooms list) |
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| 13:16.46 | babilen | Fecn: Here or #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) is fine |
| 13:17.03 | Fecn | Thanks babilen. |
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| 13:18.16 | Fecn | My problem is to do with usb mass storage devices. When booting from the install CD, the usb dongle gets detected as sda - when booting from hdd it is sdb - I have worked around that by passing 'nousb' on the boot args to the installer, but it then puts nousb onto the installed image too, which means that the keyboard doesn't work anymore |
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| 13:18.32 | Fecn | Is there some way I can feed preseed a list of boot args to ignore ? |
| 13:18.37 | anddam | what would a canonical path in which to put a lighttpd sqlite db? |
| 13:19.06 | anddam | s/lighttpd sqlite db/a db that is going to be used by lighttpd/ |
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| 13:23.31 | jpw | Fecn: there is also freenet irc bot alis for querying room names. /list is useless here. /msg alis help |
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| 13:25.07 | jpw | Fecn: What reason do you have for having a USB drive attached during install? I have had that problem previously when I needed to load some firmwares at install time. My work around was to connect the USB drive for only the step at which it was required. |
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| 13:28.04 | ChrisH | Losowski: thanks for sharing this information with me. |
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| 13:30.10 | oo_miguel | what will happen wehen I remove repositories from apt.conf/ |
| 13:30.11 | oo_miguel | ? |
| 13:30.21 | oo_miguel | is this allowed? |
| 13:31.41 | lordjago | hi there |
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| 13:32.03 | lordjago | I have a problem using the perl lib YAML::AppConfig |
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| 13:32.12 | lordjago | anybody knows it ? |
| 13:32.22 | rozie | oo_miguel: nothing will happen. you won't be able to install packages from those repositories. that's all |
| 13:32.29 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | I am going to try SELinux. And i got BTRFS on most of my drives. Should i do any "additional work"? |
| 13:32.32 | tgs3 | hi, doing dd if=/dev/zero of=./local two times = computer almost hangs. how to set more fair scheduler or something? |
| 13:33.03 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: why you want selinux? for security of system generally grsecurity is more powerfull solution afaik |
| 13:33.04 | oo_miguel | rozie: ok , but this will do nothing to the currently installed packages? |
| 13:33.21 | Losowski | ChrisH: You're welcome. |
| 13:33.22 | oo_miguel | how can I see which packages are installed, but are not in any of the repositories in apt.conf |
| 13:33.22 | rozie | oo_miguel: it won't uninstall them |
| 13:33.24 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, i am just a paranoid admin. |
| 13:33.25 | oo_miguel | ? |
| 13:33.45 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: what os on the machine? |
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| 13:33.59 | rozie | oo_miguel: wajig policy package tells about source of installation/availability |
| 13:34.03 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, Are we on debian channel? |
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| 13:34.22 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: for paranoid administration I would go with grsecurity check it out :) we are making debian-grsecurity kernel packages I can email you good .config |
| 13:34.28 | tgs3 | oh right Im also on #linux |
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| 13:34.36 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, Debian Wheezy |
| 13:34.47 | ChrisH | tgs3: What do you want? if you (as admin) as the system to run these two commands in parallel its the expected behaviuor if there are not enough CPUs and not enough disks on ./local |
| 13:35.12 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Currently i am forced to install some kind of JRE that will work. And thats going against my paranoid me |
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| 13:35.39 | rozie | tgs3: what's your disc where you store those data? do you limit size in any way (maybe it just runs out of space)? |
| 13:36.39 | [4-tea-2] | Greetings. I'm looking at a package (tt-rss) on packages.debian.org and I'm wondering why the information there isn't up to date for the sid package (packages.debian.org: 1.7.5+dfsg-2, on my system: 1.7.8+dfsg-1). Is packages.debian.org broken? |
| 13:36.56 | oo_miguel | rozie: thank you |
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| 13:37.16 | tgs3 | ChrisH: if there is 3rd process that wants a bit of hdd IO like ls -l command, then it should not be starved for 30 seconds, that is ridiculous |
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| 13:39.30 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, And... i now understand in basic what grsecurity does. How to "do it"? |
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| 13:41.18 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, And what is the main difference in GrSecurity from SELinux and AppArmour (Sorry if acting noobish) |
| 13:41.36 | rozie | tgs3: /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler, google for details |
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| 13:42.34 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: apparmour is weak limiting of what files can be accessed. selinux is strong limiting of access. grsecutiry is strong limiting of access, PLUS many protections from bugs in userspace and kernel related exploits |
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| 13:43.08 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, Ok. So how to use it? |
| 13:43.15 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: you install grsecurity kernel. I can give you one, soon (Im trying to make debian repository out of it). |
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| 13:43.44 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: this already gives vast improvement in security. Next step, you could set exact rules what file does what with grsec logging |
| 13:43.48 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, Where can i get it? (compile, install, run) |
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| 13:44.24 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: well it's your lucky day, we are releasing such kernel, I will PM you details and you can use our version |
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| 13:44.51 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: it's a server right? because this version (strong) will block some things like media players and of course will not allow closed source video driver |
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| 13:45.33 | tgs3 | rozie: oki |
| 13:45.55 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, From 1 side its a http/ftp/bitcoinminer. From another its a TV station with blackjack and stuff (And closed nvidia driver) |
| 13:45.58 | ChrisH | tgs3: start a find / -type f and I expect that after a while CPU and Disk I/O gets shared between the 2 dd and the find. |
| 13:46.03 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | So......... |
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| 13:47.35 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, Would it work after "hard reconfigurations"? |
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| 13:48.41 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: well you just dpkg -i ourkernel.deb and reboot :) if there is any problem boot back old kernel and ask us here |
| 13:48.56 | babilen | tgs3: The fact that you have to install random binary packages from somewhere for this security feature is a bit, well, counterintuitive ;) |
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| 13:49.16 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, I rarely use stock kernel........ |
| 13:49.20 | babilen | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Please install mylatestrootkit.deb too while you are at it! |
| 13:49.27 | tgs3 | ChrisH: in my use case, the find (or even just simple ls) is totally starved, ls in directory with 3 file takes 20-40 SECONDS(?!@?!!) if two dd are writting zeroes into files on same drive |
| 13:49.55 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | babilen, Cool! Will try it..... what are those SUID files...... Why all port are..... |
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| 13:50.18 | babilen | dpkg: grsecurity |
| 13:50.19 | dpkg | grsecurity is a patch set to enhance Linux kernel security: provides an ACL system, auditing capabilities and institutes measures to prevent common system exploits. Packaged for Debian as linux-patch-grsecurity2, read /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-grsecurity2/README.Debian to apply. http://www.grsecurity.net/ #grsecurity on irc.oftc.net, ##grsecurity on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:50.36 | jhutchins_wk | [4-tea-2]: Anything in linux that is fully documented is obsolete and deprecated. |
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| 13:50.51 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: using closed nvidia driver eliminates chances for security , there where kernel exploits using nvidia |
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| 13:50.58 | converge | how to know what server (apache/iis/httpd) is some website running at ? |
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| 13:51.09 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: btw you know mining bitcoin with nvidia is not proffitable unles you have free electricity? use radeon or just buy coins :) |
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| 13:51.29 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | tgs3, I dont pay for this electricity :3 |
| 13:51.33 | tgs3 | converge: connect to the page and check headers... firefox firebug |
| 13:51.36 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Atleast not me |
| 13:51.38 | jhutchins_wk | converge: The http headers might tell you, but if they've turned that feature off you just have to contact the admin. |
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| 13:52.46 | converge | tgs3: do you mean the html header ? |
| 13:52.49 | babilen | converge: "curl -I HOST" should be fine |
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| 13:53.04 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Well, anyway. Whats the story with SELinux and BtrFS? |
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| 13:53.36 | babilen | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: You are aware of search engines and wikipedia, aren't you? |
| 13:53.59 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | babilen, What are those? |
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| 13:55.31 | babilen | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: Seriously, try to answer your own questions first or /at least/ as reasonable and informative questions. You might want to read http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and http://mattgemmell.com/2008/12/08/what-have-you-tried/ |
| 13:55.36 | babilen | *ask |
| 13:57.19 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | babilen, I tryed. I didnt understand |
| 13:57.20 | tgs3 | converge: yes |
| 13:57.21 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Can someone gime a "SELinux and Btrfs" howto? |
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| 13:57.22 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: then you should build kernel from sources, with grsecurity patch and enable grsecurity settings |
| 13:57.22 | tgs3 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE: selinux will not give you security |
| 13:57.22 | tgs3 | it's mostly lagbeling stuff for complex multi user systems, isn't it |
| 13:57.22 | tgs3 | not real protection of kernel and programs from explouts |
| 13:57.23 | [4-tea-2] | jhutchins_wk: true, true. But I figured the stuff on packages.debian.org is auto-generated and thus at least kinda current. |
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| 13:57.24 | themill | [4-tea-2]: sometimes packages.d.o takes a little time to notice uploads but a week should be long enough, yes |
| 13:58.13 | babilen | themill: Isn't p.d.o static right now? I recall reading something on infrastructure-announce or somewhere else ... |
| 13:58.16 | [4-tea-2] | themill: I believe it's been a lot longer than a week. |
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| 13:58.44 | babilen | Yeah: http://lists.debian.org/<20130410120342.GA25320@anguilla.debian.or.at> |
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| 13:59.20 | [4-tea-2] | themill: actually, just about a week (April 4th). I'll just be patient then.- |
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| 14:00.13 | [4-tea-2] | themill, babilen: tyvm! |
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| 14:11.49 | Akuw | hi |
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| 14:12.27 | Akuw | is there any hardware so i can receive SMS messages in a linux server using gammu ? |
| 14:12.34 | Akuw | is for GPS location |
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| 14:14.11 | ChrisH | Akuw: Any mobile gammu does support? |
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| 14:15.21 | ChrisH | To get GPS data you need a GPS receiver with serial connection |
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| 14:19.15 | dav | How does one explain this: (1) apt-mark auto mplayer -> OK. (2) apt-get -s autoremove -> doesn't remove mplayer. (3) apt-get -s remove mplayer -> would remove nothing other than mplayer (i.e. no deps) |
| 14:19.39 | dav | Is there a suggest or recommand or something? |
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| 14:21.18 | Akuw | ChrisH: i will receive from vehicles |
| 14:21.31 | Akuw | so should be using SMS |
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| 14:22.30 | chris___ | I have a ruby script that can be started, stopped and restarted easily using arguments passed in. I now want it to be a debian service so that debian automatically starts it on boot and restart it if it crashes. Is this possible? and if so, what do I need to do? |
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| 14:23.47 | joltcan | chris___: look at /etc/init.d/skeleton |
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| 14:24.26 | chris___ | joltcan: will that restart the app if it crashes? |
| 14:24.36 | ChrisH | chris___: if you need the automatic restart, check /etc/inittab with respwan. Do you come from solaris or Windows as you speak of service. |
| 14:24.38 | joltcan | chris___: or if you are lazy like me, create a bash script with while true; do run_script ; done and put that script in to crontab with @reboot |
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| 14:24.56 | chris___ | ChrisH: solaris |
| 14:25.07 | chris___ | and ubuntu |
| 14:25.08 | joltcan | ChrisH: nice catch |
| 14:25.36 | ChrisH | chris___: there is (not yet) anything like SMF for Debian. So my recommendation is inittab |
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| 14:29.33 | echo083 | hello, can i use a 4Tb harddrive with debian squeeze ? |
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| 14:30.27 | ChrisH | echo083: why not. can your HW handle that disk? |
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| 14:31.09 | echo083 | ChrisH, how to know if my motherboard support such harddisks ? |
| 14:31.42 | invariant | Is there a program which can do transient mounts of remote file systems that are available via ssh? |
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| 14:32.00 | ChrisH | echo083: let me say it the other way round: I do not expect any trouble with the Linux Kernel if the HW does detect the disk. |
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| 14:32.16 | invariant | So: when the program starts, it would try to mount it and when one cd's to the directory it would try it again, if needed. |
| 14:32.34 | invariant | echo083, you need to partition it with GPT, however. |
| 14:32.36 | echo083 | ChrisH, if my hardware support it, debian will be able to boot from it ? |
| 14:32.48 | echo083 | invariant, gpt ? |
| 14:32.58 | echo083 | invariant, it won't work with fdisk ? |
| 14:33.00 | invariant | ChrisH, are you sure Squeeze comes with GPT tools? |
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| 14:33.26 | themill | invariant: autofs can work with sshfs |
| 14:33.30 | invariant | echo083, well, not if you want to use it efficiently, AFAIK. |
| 14:33.34 | echo083 | gpt = G-Portugol is a portuguese structured programming language ?? |
| 14:33.46 | invariant | !gpt |
| 14:33.46 | dpkg | GPT (GUID Partition Table) is a disk partition format frequently used by firmware compliant with the Extensible Firmware Interface (<EFI>). util-linux's <fdisk> does not support GPT, ask me about <parted>. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-gpt/ |
| 14:34.10 | dav | !apt-mark |
| 14:34.22 | abrotman | you can msg the bot |
| 14:34.24 | echo083 | invariant, ok ! thx |
| 14:34.28 | zykotick9 | echo083: fdisk won't work, doesn't support gpt. gparted (gui) or parted (terminal) or gdisk. also, i had issues with a 3TB drive not working correctly across a USB cable, but worked just fine with eSATA. |
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| 14:35.06 | echo083 | zykotick9, if i use GPT it will work fine and debian will be able to boot from it ? |
| 14:35.26 | echo083 | zykotick9, (supposing my hardware support it) |
| 14:35.41 | zykotick9 | echo083: i'm sorry, wasn't using it for booting. i'm not sure what's required there... good luck. |
| 14:35.49 | echo083 | invariant, what is the debian package refering to gpt ? |
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| 14:35.58 | ChrisH | echo083: Make sure to create a BIOS partition on it. otherwise it will fail upon the first reboot |
| 14:36.03 | echo083 | zykotick9, ok thx |
| 14:36.23 | echo083 | ChrisH, a bios partition on my harddisk ? |
| 14:36.34 | ChrisH | invariant: I am not sure, not its avaliable for squeeze. |
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| 14:36.48 | ChrisH | echo083: yes. there is such an option while installung. |
| 14:36.57 | ChrisH | invariant: I am not sure, _but_ its avaliable for squeeze. |
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| 14:37.13 | echo083 | ChrisH, is it available with debian squeeze too ? |
| 14:38.03 | abrotman | !tell invariant about search |
| 14:38.43 | echo083 | ChrisH, sorry didn't see you last sentence ;) so available for squeeze too THX :) |
| 14:38.47 | invariant | abrotman, wth? |
| 14:38.47 | invariant | abrotman, I am not even asking a question. |
| 14:38.47 | invariant | abrotman, try to follow the conversation next time. |
| 14:39.25 | abrotman | i did |
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| 14:40.02 | invariant | abrotman, are you referring to my ssh question? |
| 14:40.29 | invariant | abrotman, because that is something which is hardly a reason to point me at search. |
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| 14:43.19 | subcritical | is posible to generate an listen ssh1 in only one ip adress |
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| 14:43.39 | subcritical | and the other adresess listen in the ssh2 protocol? |
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| 14:44.12 | ChrisH | subcritical: you do not want to use ssh1 at all :) |
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| 14:45.34 | subcritical | if the remote computer |
| 14:45.40 | subcritical | only support ssh1 |
| 14:45.46 | subcritical | what it the solution? |
| 14:45.58 | subcritical | i need open a ssh1 in ony one adress |
| 14:46.05 | subcritical | only |
| 14:47.26 | HelenaKitty | subcritical: dude use ssh2 |
| 14:48.00 | dav | Will anyone help me with my apt-get autoremove question? |
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| 14:49.00 | ChrisH | subcritical: option 1 upgrade the remote box, if not possible option 2: duplicate sshd_config, modify it to your need and create a second init script and run a second sshd process on this specific listener IP in ssh1 using ListenAddress ... and restrict it as much as possible. ssh1 is not anylonger a safe protocoll. |
| 14:49.38 | HelenaKitty | Guys |
| 14:49.43 | HelenaKitty | I have a debian chroot |
| 14:49.57 | HelenaKitty | for some reason when I boot it up it is automatically rooted |
| 14:49.58 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
| 14:50.37 | somiaj | what do you mean boot up a chroot? |
| 14:50.43 | jelly | HelenaKitty: rooted? |
| 14:50.47 | HelenaKitty | jelly: Yes |
| 14:50.51 | somiaj | what does that mean? |
| 14:50.54 | jelly | HelenaKitty: what does that mean? |
| 14:50.59 | HelenaKitty | Let me show you. |
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| 14:52.03 | themill | dav: recommends will keep packages installed: «aptitude search '?recommends(^mplayer$)?installed'» |
| 14:52.12 | jelly | explain it in words, HelenaKitty! |
| 14:52.19 | HelenaKitty | jelly: I can't |
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| 14:52.38 | HelenaKitty | http://ompldr.org/vaTJrZw |
| 14:52.40 | HelenaKitty | jelly: ^ |
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| 14:53.00 | jelly | HelenaKitty: what does the "deb" command do? |
| 14:53.06 | touki | Hi guys, do you know what could be linked to the bug "Could not display "computer", Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations ? |
| 14:53.10 | dav | themill: thank you will look into this. very much appreciated. |
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| 14:53.14 | HelenaKitty | jelly: It's Debian inside a chroot |
| 14:53.23 | jelly | HelenaKitty: what does it _do_? |
| 14:53.31 | HelenaKitty | sighs |
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| 14:53.35 | HelenaKitty | it starts up Debian |
| 14:53.40 | touki | On squeeze. |
| 14:53.50 | somiaj | HelenaKitty: so it runs the command 'chroot /path/to/debian_chroot' |
| 14:53.56 | HelenaKitty | somiaj: Yes |
| 14:54.00 | HelenaKitty | bootdeb |
| 14:54.03 | jelly | HelenaKitty: it chroots into a debootstrapped Debian and starts a shell in there? |
| 14:54.03 | somiaj | HelenaKitty: that is what chroot does, it it puts you in '/ and makes you root |
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| 14:54.17 | dimitry7 | hi guys, I erroneously wrote GRUB 2 onto my USB stick... I have tried dd if=/dev/null ... etc. With bs=446 and 512.... I also formated with Ubuntu disks application. Al tried doing # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb1 .... and nothing works. When I want this USB to hace debian 6 ISO on it... and instead of booting with debian it stars with: grub rescue > .... Any Advice?? Thank you!!!! |
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| 14:54.28 | somiaj | well it make the /path act as / in the new enviroment and makes you root |
| 14:54.28 | jelly | HelenaKitty: then that's normal. chroot only works when you're root already. |
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| 14:54.37 | HelenaKitty | but I don't want to be root |
| 14:54.51 | HelenaKitty | I want to be user s98259 |
| 14:54.52 | dimitry7 | * to have, sorry |
| 14:55.14 | jelly | HelenaKitty: run su - s98259, then |
| 14:55.26 | HelenaKitty | jelly: I know |
| 14:55.28 | HelenaKitty | but... |
| 14:55.31 | HelenaKitty | I want it to be automatic |
| 14:56.49 | ChrisH | dimitry7: cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb1 This is not what the doku tells you to do. its mentioning sdb |
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| 14:57.25 | dimitry7 | ChrisH, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 14:57.41 | dimitry7 | isn't this the instruction: # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX ??? |
| 14:57.49 | dav | themill: ok, so this only found packages that were automatically installed themselves |
| 14:58.27 | ChrisH | dimitry7: sdX is sdb not sdb1 what should be sdXY :) |
| 14:58.30 | jhutchins_wk | dimitry7: You want the iso image to directly to the drive, not to a partition on the drive, so /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1 |
| 14:58.31 | dav | themill: hmmm actually, one of them was depended on by something manual. thanks! |
| 14:58.40 | jhutchins_wk | dimitry7: Just like when you install grub. |
| 14:59.03 | dimitry7 | ChrisH, jhutchins_wk OMG... Got you guys... thank you !!! :D |
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| 14:59.43 | dav | themill: is there a way to have autoremove ignore recommands and go with dependencies only? |
| 14:59.45 | subcritical | ChrisH, thanks i will try to make two configs! |
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| 15:02.39 | themill | dav: aptitude has a config option for keeping (or not keeping) recommends in this calculation. You can also look at deborphan for this. |
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| 15:04.00 | dav | thanks themill |
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| 15:06.29 | jelly | HelenaKitty: this is probably out of the scope of this channel, but you can probably detect whether the parent process is the chroot command, or whatever "deb" actually runs, test for that and put it in root's .bash_profile or something |
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| 15:06.33 | jhutchins_wk | rsync question. I want to copy /dir/path/old/server to the new server. How do I specify the target path? Just /? |
| 15:07.39 | jelly | HelenaKitty: in essence, if you're in the initial shell ran by "deb", you can safely execute su. If it's not, probably best to leave it alone |
| 15:08.19 | jelly | run* |
| 15:08.55 | jelly | HelenaKitty: so figure out what "deb" does, first |
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| 15:10.01 | axgb | hi |
| 15:10.06 | seekanet | hey there |
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| 15:10.15 | dav | themill: deborphan really helped, thank you. |
| 15:10.18 | axgb | Can I have help |
| 15:10.44 | seekanet | Just ask your question axgb,and sure you can |
| 15:10.47 | seekanet | :) |
| 15:10.50 | axgb | yes |
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| 15:11.40 | axgb | I have debian with desktop enviroment, LXDE, on a laptop. How do I configure the function keys - FN + F3 and similar to work |
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| 15:12.13 | HelenaKitty | jelly: also... |
| 15:12.22 | HelenaKitty | is it possible to flash my nexus 7 with Debian? |
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| 15:12.30 | HelenaKitty | I am aware of driver issues that may occure. |
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| 15:12.39 | HelenaKitty | but Ubuntu did it with their touch distro. |
| 15:12.49 | HelenaKitty | Only I don't like Ubuntu |
| 15:13.22 | jelly | HelenaKitty: I don't think Debian announced Nexus 7 as a supported platform recently. |
| 15:13.33 | jelly | or, like, ever |
| 15:13.34 | HelenaKitty | okies |
| 15:13.49 | axgb | It works F3 - mute, F4 volume, F5 brightness, F12 hibernate, with the arrow keys to increase or decrease |
| 15:14.07 | HelenaKitty | jelly: It didn't |
| 15:14.12 | HelenaKitty | cause nobody tried it :/ |
| 15:14.18 | jelly | HelenaKitty: well then, there's your answer |
| 15:14.23 | HelenaKitty | Nexus is pretty much capable of running Debian. |
| 15:14.27 | HelenaKitty | it's just idk how |
| 15:14.34 | HelenaKitty | do I just flash an ARM image to the device? |
| 15:14.53 | jelly | HelenaKitty: it's an embedded device, you're very much out of your depth with it |
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| 15:15.41 | HelenaKitty | jelly: Dude |
| 15:15.54 | jelly | duuuude |
| 15:16.04 | HelenaKitty | This is my dream :( |
| 15:16.19 | HelenaKitty | to have a tablet running Debian |
| 15:16.31 | HelenaKitty | I can't find a suitable x86 tablet |
| 15:16.34 | axgb | How can I configure function keys to work with my laptop |
| 15:16.49 | jelly | !nopony HelenaKitty |
| 15:16.50 | dpkg | HelenaKitty: http://www.brainfuel.tv/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/nopony.jpg |
| 15:17.04 | axgb | Helenakitty, I agree with you, it would be very nice if tablets were compatible with all os like computers mostly are |
| 15:17.32 | jelly | complain to the hw vendor and arm about their closeness |
| 15:18.24 | HelenaKitty | axgb: they are it's just... |
| 15:18.27 | HelenaKitty | ARM :/ |
| 15:18.30 | HelenaKitty | it's compatible |
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| 15:18.37 | HelenaKitty | just not as compatible as x86 |
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| 15:18.42 | HelenaKitty | for obvious reasons |
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| 15:18.49 | axgb | I would like it if all tabs were x86 |
| 15:19.01 | HelenaKitty | I don't mind ARM |
| 15:19.04 | axgb | that nearly happened, but intel did not make a low power processor |
| 15:19.07 | HelenaKitty | but yeah I see what you mean. :3 |
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| 15:19.30 | axgb | Helenakitty, i really hate arm a lot, why cant it be x86 or x64 |
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| 15:19.39 | HelenaKitty | axgb: Intell Atom is good enough for a tablet |
| 15:19.45 | jelly | HelenaKitty: we can't help with that issue, sorry. The onus is on hw vendors and IP owners for the relevant drivers' support |
| 15:19.55 | axgb | i saw a tablet once with intel atom |
| 15:19.57 | HelenaKitty | lol |
| 15:20.00 | HelenaKitty | jelly: I know |
| 15:20.05 | HelenaKitty | this is what I am getting at |
| 15:20.25 | HelenaKitty | axgb: x86 tablets tend to be either Intell Atom or AMD Fusion |
| 15:20.46 | axgb | If I was buying another tab, it would be x86 |
| 15:20.51 | HelenaKitty | :D |
| 15:20.54 | HelenaKitty | same! |
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| 15:22.10 | axgb | If I got an x86 tab, would I be able to have everything just like it is on a computer, apart from on-screen keyboard sotware would be needed |
| 15:22.43 | axgb | How can I make function keys work on a laptop |
| 15:24.22 | axgb | how can I make function keys work? |
| 15:25.02 | petn-randall | axgb: Stop spamming the channel with your problem. Ask once, wait an hour. If it's not been answered, you may ask again. |
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| 15:25.25 | axgb | ok, thanks |
| 15:25.32 | petn-randall | 17:13 < axgb > It works F3 - mute, F4 volume, F5 brightness, F12 hibernate, with the arrow keys to increase or decrease |
| 15:25.37 | axgb | I will try google, be back sometime |
| 15:25.40 | petn-randall | ^^ so what part doesn't work? |
| 15:25.43 | htor | hi! what could be the reason for sound only through speaker, and not when jack cable is plugged in? |
| 15:26.05 | axgb | that does not work on my laptop, it used to work incorrectly on mine, now it just does not work |
| 15:26.28 | petn-randall | htor: If you have one of the more modern laptops/desktops, the output over speakers/audio jack is controlled by software. |
| 15:26.42 | petn-randall | htor: Try alsamixer and see if there's a knob for that. |
| 15:26.43 | htor | petn-randall: mine is from 2010 |
| 15:26.50 | axgb | it used to be that fn+f5 was reduce brightness, and Fn+f6 increase brightness, but now it just does nothing. |
| 15:26.52 | htor | have tried |
| 15:26.59 | axgb | I have lxde |
| 15:27.00 | htor | there's no thing to control that |
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| 15:27.23 | petn-randall | axgb: So they do work, you just want to map them differently? |
| 15:27.27 | htor | this just behaviour began just today, it worked fine yesterday |
| 15:27.37 | axgb | Oh, when i said that, i meant that is how it should work, not how it does |
| 15:27.41 | htor | and i have not upgraded |
| 15:27.44 | axgb | they used to work |
| 15:27.49 | petn-randall | axgb: Ah, I see. |
| 15:27.58 | axgb | but I want to get them to work again and then to map them differently |
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| 15:30.19 | _coff_ | Is it possible through apt pinning to pin a specific package, and it's complete dependency chain to a specific release (eg. testing)? |
| 15:30.30 | petn-randall | axgb: If you ask me later (in 2 hours), I'll be on my laptop, then I can check how it's configured there. |
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| 15:30.42 | axgb | if gnomepowermanager is open, it works a bit, so I need to remap, i think |
| 15:30.53 | _coff_ | I have the basics for pinning packages working, but I'm struggling with the dependencies... |
| 15:31.12 | petn-randall | _coff_: What is it specifically you're trying to do? |
| 15:31.21 | htor | i'm using alsa - suddenly no sound in headphones - speakers only |
| 15:31.35 | htor | what logs could i check? |
| 15:31.40 | axgb | petn-randell when I have power manager open, it works incorrectly, so remaping it i think |
| 15:31.53 | _coff_ | petn-randall: pin libdbix-class-perl to the version from testing. |
| 15:32.23 | petn-randall | _coff_: And what's the problem with the dependencies? |
| 15:32.25 | dav | themill: it seems that autoremove looks not just at recommends, but also suggests. Do you agree? |
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| 15:32.45 | _coff_ | petn-randall: and the pinning for that package works (as shown by apt-cache policy), but the install fails as apt insists on installing deps from stable. |
| 15:33.12 | ptrkmj | which of wheezy CDs uses the more recent di: rc1 or weekly-build? |
| 15:33.17 | _coff_ | petn-randall: messages like: "Depends: libclass-accessor-grouped-perl (>= 0.10000) but 0.09003-1 is to be installed" |
| 15:33.37 | petn-randall | _coff_: apt-get ist a little wonky when mixing stable/testing. Use aptitude to install that version, it should resolve the deps properly. |
| 15:34.17 | petn-randall | _coff_: Also as cautionary tale, don't mix stable and testing unless you're willing to glue the pieces together again. :) |
| 15:34.53 | _coff_ | petn-randall: Thanks for helping. :) Btw, would you recommend going straight to testing for the whole system instead? |
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| 15:35.19 | _coff_ | petn-randall: (package does not exist in backports, and in stable the version is ancient) |
| 15:35.33 | petn-randall | _coff_: Is it a desktop system? |
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| 15:36.06 | petn-randall | ptrkmj: the weekly build. |
| 15:36.25 | _coff_ | petn-randall: Nope. Production server needing libdbix-class-perl that is not from 2010 (or 2011 or whenever the version in stable is from) |
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| 15:37.45 | petn-randall | _coff_: As long as it's only that package, I'd stick with stable. Wheezy has been frozen for a year know, so it's quite stable, but it doesn't have the security support like stable has. |
| 15:39.04 | _coff_ | petn-randall: I wish I could just say "sorry, not dbix::class for you" :p |
| 15:39.14 | ptrkmj | petn-randall: isn't weekly-builds based on squeeze d-i? "Or install the current weekly snapshot of Debian testing which uses the same version of the installer as the last release" http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 15:39.27 | petn-randall | _coff_: As an alternative you can install DBIx::Class with cpan, that might be easier. |
| 15:40.20 | _coff_ | petn-randall: Might try that, or just follow your advice and use aptitude to resolve the dependencies. |
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| 15:41.07 | _coff_ | I'm hoping that work on wheezy is progressing nicely so we get a stable release of that soon. |
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| 15:43.00 | petn-randall | _coff_: Wheezy is perfectly fine for my laptop. The only reason it's not on our servers is that the security fixes aren't that quick on testing, so I'll delay the upgrade for now :) |
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| 15:44.47 | petn-randall | ptrkmj: I'm not current on d-i development. I'd ask them on the mailing list. |
| 15:44.52 | _coff_ | petn-randall: I'm operating with 'disposable' servers. If something seems fishy they get nuked and new ones get provisioned, so I am tempted to switch to stable now, and just keep an extra eye on sec-annoucements. |
| 15:45.02 | _coff_ | *switch to testing |
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| 15:45.53 | dioz | you guys sure know a lot about debian |
| 15:45.59 | petn-randall | _coff_: If it's for development, it's entirely different story. I'd just not expose a wheezy server to the internet yet without sleeping bad. |
| 15:46.15 | petn-randall | s/it's/it's an/ |
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| 15:46.37 | babilen | Well, testing gets a lot of attention now and some CVEs are fixed in wheezy but not squeeze -- It's not that easy a decision right now. |
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| 15:46.55 | lennylieklynx | wheezy is fine for desktop but server no? |
| 15:47.16 | dioz | seems fine either way tfor me |
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| 15:47.56 | rudi_s | Hi. Where can I find the CA for wiki.debian.org? I checked ca-certificates but didn't find it. |
| 15:47.59 | babilen | lennylieklynx: Read my statement again and make up your own mind. |
| 15:48.04 | babilen | dpkg: tracker of doom |
| 15:48.05 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 15:48.22 | babilen | ^^^ might come in handy along with debsecan |
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| 15:51.26 | _coff_ | The package versions in testing sure are tempting... |
| 15:51.47 | _coff_ | Right now I feel I depend _a lot_ on backports.. |
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| 15:53.01 | babilen | _coff_: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/testing vs https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable |
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| 15:54.08 | _coff_ | babilen: well fsck me sideways.. |
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| 15:54.35 | _coff_ | babilen: so wheezy do get a lot of love :p |
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| 15:59.50 | babilen | _coff_: Well, note that a lot of those are in packages such as chromium-browser for which fixes might be /very/ hard to backport from newer versions. Some fixes are simply part of newer upstream version which automatically means that they are closed in wheezy/sid. The problem is that the newer code might simply contain new security relevant bugs (and some of them might not have been encountered) |
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| 16:01.41 | babilen | _coff_: It's simply not that easy to make a general statement here. Wheezy gets a lot of attention right now because we want to release it and /every/ significant bug kinda makes headline news among developers. Also remember that "stable" in Debian simply means "not changing" :) -- I would like to point out that some of the remaining bugs (and these are the ones that are hard to fix) are specific to the upgrade path from squeeze to wheezy. |
| 16:01.43 | X6402222A | hi |
| 16:01.50 | babilen | dpkg: immediate configuration |
| 16:01.50 | dpkg | When upgrading from squeeze to wheezy, apt may stop with "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on '$package'." Fixing this is quite difficult and will take time... if $package isn't an Essential package, then "dpkg -r $package; apt-get -f install" will often be enough to solve the problem. If "dpkg -r" complains about dependencies, consider adding "--force-depends". |
| 16:02.52 | X6402222A | where i get "linux-image-3.2.0-4-octeon_3.2.39-2_mips.deb" ? |
| 16:03.23 | babilen | _coff_: ^^^ this happens for some packages and we are trying hard to get on top of this for /every single package/ that exhibits this behaviour. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645713 for further details on that one. You might also want to read the release notes (in the state in which they are now) -- "/msg dpkg wheezy release notes" |
| 16:03.57 | X6402222A | all mirors from http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mips/linux-image-3.2.0-4-octeon/download |
| 16:03.58 | X6402222A | linux-image-3.2.0-4-octeon_3.2.39-2_mips.deb was not found on this server |
| 16:04.06 | babilen | X6402222A: Which version of Debian do you use and why do you think that you have to get that file from somewhere? |
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| 16:04.59 | X6402222A | for testing "OCTEON CN50XX-SCP" boot |
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| 16:06.08 | X6402222A | "Linux on the Octeon" http://www.360doc.com/content/12/0312/15/8887027_193743206.shtml |
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| 16:06.42 | jelly | X6402222A: run apt-get update again, see if there's a newer version |
| 16:06.46 | X6402222A | (Embedded device) |
| 16:07.23 | X6402222A | my system is not running in Octeon arch |
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| 16:08.36 | babilen | X6402222A: packages.debian.org has not been updated in quite a while. The package you tried to download is simply outdated ... See http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/ for a more extensive listing. |
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| 16:09.01 | jelly | X6402222A: linux-image-3.2.0-4-octeon_3.2.41-2_mips.deb seems to be the current on my mirror |
| 16:09.04 | X6402222A | ok, thanks babilen :) |
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| 16:09.30 | X6402222A | jelly, can you give me link please ? |
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| 16:10.20 | jelly | X6402222A: http://debian.iskon.hr/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.2.0-4-octeon_3.2.41-2_mips.deb |
| 16:10.58 | X6402222A | jelly, work :D thanks :)) |
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| 16:11.35 | babilen | X6402222A: You /should/ be able to simply download that with apt-get though ... you really shouldn't care about the version. |
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| 16:12.15 | X6402222A | babilen, using different arch (i386) ? |
| 16:12.40 | sts | hello folks. how can I prevent a certain kernel module to load? |
| 16:12.47 | X6402222A | nothing found using (apt-cache search octeon) |
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| 16:12.55 | babilen | X6402222A: No, I am talking about Debian in general. You /do/ use Debian don't you? |
| 16:13.09 | dutchfish | !tell sts about blacklist |
| 16:13.37 | babilen | X6402222A: A simple "apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-octeon" is all that should be needed. |
| 16:14.03 | sts | dutchfish: does this also prevent from manually loading it or any other script/application loading it? |
| 16:14.20 | dutchfish | sts, nope |
| 16:14.27 | sts | is there a way to do so? |
| 16:15.01 | dutchfish | sts, not unless you manually remove the module from the lib | not advisable |
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| 16:15.20 | sts | ok |
| 16:15.42 | dutchfish | sts, also it could be still inside your initramfs |
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| 16:15.57 | dutchfish | sts, so you have to upgrade that as well |
| 16:16.14 | dutchfish | sts, see manpage update-iniitramfs |
| 16:16.27 | dutchfish | sts, update-initramfs* |
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| 16:17.02 | bezaban | sts you can recompile your kernel without it |
| 16:17.37 | msn | I am running testing and after recent updates krunner refuses to start i can start from konsole but it runs a command and then exits doesnt stay in background |
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| 16:26.00 | ok4 | Trying to build 32-bit Qt in 64-bit Debian. I can't find the 32-bit version of these packages via the repo: libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libx11-dev libxext-dev libxfixes-dev libxi-dev libxrender-dev libxcb1-dev libx11-xcb-dev libxcb-glx0-dev libxcb-keysyms1-dev libxcb-image0-dev libxcb-shm0-dev libxcb-icccm4-dev libxcb-sync0-dev libxcb-xfixes0-dev libxcb-shape0-dev libxcb-randr0-dev |
| 16:26.00 | ok4 | libxcb-render-util0-dev |
| 16:26.33 | ok4 | I'm new to debian |
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| 16:27.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell ok4 -about multiarch |
| 16:27.47 | babilen | And with that I'm out … |
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| 16:32.03 | dutchfish | ok4, i build build my 32 its packages on x86_64 with pbuilder, something like sudo pbuilder --create --architecture i386 | sudo pbuilder --build mypackage.dsc |
| 16:32.10 | dutchfish | s/its/bits |
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| 16:36.42 | ok4 | dutchfish: you kinda lost me. do you mean that I should build each and every one of these packages as 32-bit myself from source? |
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| 16:39.39 | ok4 | does this syntax work in debian? apt-get install libx11-dev:i386 |
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| 16:40.24 | ok4 | the debian repo has libx11-dev, but i don't seea 32bit version |
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| 16:42.50 | sentenza | Hi all guys |
| 16:43.11 | dexta | prevening |
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| 16:45.28 | Cultist | anyone know a good easy-to-follow guide for setting up vpn access on a debian server? |
| 16:45.29 | dondelelcaro | ok4: you either haven't added an i386 architecture, or you haven't updated apt since adding one |
| 16:45.36 | sentenza | I'm stuck with a three monitors conf that would not work. I have an AMD Radeon HD 7800. Two monitors on DP and third on HDMI port |
| 16:45.51 | sentenza | amdcccle seems not working properly |
| 16:46.26 | sentenza | after rebooting mi third monitor is black again and the AMD CC show it off |
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| 17:02.08 | eug_ | hi all. i'm having trouble with an ipsec configuration: when the client connects to the server, it can then connect to the server (e.g. via ssh, http, etc), but packets to all other IPs are dropped. |
| 17:02.12 | eug_ | i'm using racoon |
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| 17:03.51 | jpw | eug_: run `cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward` what's the response? |
| 17:04.41 | eug_ | i set that to 1 |
| 17:05.03 | jpw | are you /sure/? |
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| 17:05.07 | eug_ | checking |
| 17:05.28 | eug_ | ha |
| 17:05.45 | eug_ | you're right. wonder why that reset. i had it in sysctl and i echo'd it |
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| 17:06.00 | jpw | you're welcome. |
| 17:06.06 | jpw | i'm off now, ttfn |
| 17:06.12 | eug_ | thank you :) |
| 17:06.17 | eug_ | trying |
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| 17:07.12 | eug_ | hmm, forwarding is now on but i'm having the same problem |
| 17:07.43 | jpw | i need to run but I bet racoon is setting the option for you as a security feature. |
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| 17:08.27 | eug_ | jpw: thank you. i'll check out racoon |
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| 17:16.38 | eug_ | hmm. still no luck :( |
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| 17:25.27 | eug_ | ok; followup question: do i need any iptables rules for ipsec if i have no rules (i.e. accept all?) |
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| 17:31.42 | hexanol | someone could confirm me if the debian wheezy amd64 RC1 netinst iso is isohybrid, i.e. if I can install it on a USB drive with a simple dd ? |
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| 17:33.31 | DammitJim | hexanol, it should be |
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| 17:36.15 | DammitJim | from what I can remember, wheezy has always had the option for simple dd to USB drive for netinst ISOs |
| 17:36.29 | DammitJim | so, hexanol fear not! |
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| 17:38.54 | krabador | hi people, with apt-cache showpkg i can watch version of a package and dependencies. how can i've only the package version ? |
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| 17:41.41 | hexanol | DammitJim: well in fact I believe I have a bad USB stick, and that's why I'm having some problem |
| 17:41.54 | hexanol | i.e. I believe I install the beta6 on a USB key with a simple dd |
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| 17:44.15 | petn-randall | krabador: Maybe just grep for the info you need? |
| 17:44.59 | DammitJim | man, how does one read this chart???? http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 17:45.13 | krabador | petn-randall, yes.... great. |
| 17:45.45 | DammitJim | Does that mean that squeeze has more bugs than wheezy? |
| 17:45.51 | DammitJim | http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 17:47.04 | et | DammitJim: that is to be expected and "normal" during a freeze |
| 17:47.27 | DammitJim | oh 'cause squeeze isn't really frozen? |
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| 17:47.34 | M-16 | hello |
| 17:48.16 | M-16 | when playing music or video with vlc the audio is very bad while with mplayer it's perfecr. What could be the reason? |
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| 17:51.13 | benedikt | I have a computer with an intel process with "integrated graphics". One monitor is connected with HDMI and one with VGA. |
| 17:51.23 | benedikt | xrandr doesn't seem to work on this |
| 17:51.46 | benedikt | What i want: xrandr --output VGA1 --right-of HDMI1 --auto |
| 17:51.53 | benedikt | but nothing happens |
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| 17:52.51 | benedikt | using the gnome tool (inside gnome) works, but i want to use xmonad |
| 17:53.20 | benedikt | xrandr detects both displays correctly |
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| 17:53.37 | benedikt | but claims that HDMI1 is disconnected |
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| 17:57.31 | tonyg | hi all |
| 17:57.50 | tonyg | is it normal to get "BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA" sporadically from apt-get update? |
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| 17:59.30 | tonyg | it seems to happen more often when I use http.debian.net rather than ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 18:04.40 | xgl | hi all ! |
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| 18:07.11 | useless-eater | trying to install java from oracle (yuck), make-jpkg thinks all my users are root, so it dont let me proceed |
| 18:07.50 | useless-eater | I even added a user to test: 'nonroot' with 'adduser nonroot'.. still no luck, anyone knows where I should start looking for error? |
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| 18:13.08 | jelly-home | useless-eater: please run: "id -a; make-jpkg stuff-from-oracle.tar.gz" as a normal user, and pastebin the whole output |
| 18:13.30 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 18:13.31 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 18:15.10 | useless-eater | uid=1004(nonroot) gid=1004(nonroot) groups=1004(nonroot) |
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| 18:16.35 | useless-eater | http://pastebin.com/ZuwyqtQL |
| 18:17.47 | useless-eater | its strange.. but got two weeks of uptime, and I have done a lot of installing and stuff, so I could try to do a restart |
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| 18:19.11 | JWGUBNYMGBQWOI | did you try using fakeroot |
| 18:20.25 | useless-eater | yep: nonroot@syntaxerror:~$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-7u17-linux-x64.tar.gz |
| 18:20.26 | jelly-home | useless-eater: you wouldn't have broken permissions on / or /usr or /etc, would you? |
| 18:20.37 | useless-eater | I hope not :\ |
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| 18:22.01 | abyxcos | Is there any easy way to track a later kernel than is in apt without manually pulling and compiling? |
| 18:22.02 | jelly-home | useless-eater: ok, let's try again. Run exactly this: "id -a; strace make-jpkg jre-7u17-linux-x64.tar.gz", pastebin the whole output including the commands. |
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| 18:22.37 | jelly-home | oh, it's a script |
| 18:22.41 | jelly-home | useless-eater: disregard that |
| 18:22.59 | jelly-home | useless-eater: ok, let's try again. Run exactly this: "id -a; bash -x make-jpkg jre-7u17-linux-x64.tar.gz", pastebin the whole output including the commands. |
| 18:23.07 | abyxcos | (I had previously used the liquorix kernel on debian, but is there a more vanilla one?) |
| 18:23.14 | jelly-home | slightly less cruft with bash -x |
| 18:24.08 | jelly-home | abyxcos: there isn't. There are sometimes newer kernels in unstable or experimental, but no way to keep the latest automatically |
| 18:24.51 | abyxcos | Also, why isn't sudo in the base install set? |
| 18:24.57 | jelly-home | why would it be? |
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| 18:25.14 | abyxcos | Dunno. Thought it was the default on linux these days. |
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| 18:25.24 | jelly-home | it's not. |
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| 18:25.45 | jelly-home | sudo only makes sense when you have multiple users and want to give them access to specific commands |
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| 18:26.32 | abyxcos | I was under the impression everyone but gentoo had it in their base set. |
| 18:26.34 | jelly-home | thus, the way eg. ubuntu uses sudo by default doesn't give or take anything from a security standpoint |
| 18:26.39 | abyxcos | Although gentoo might have included it too. |
| 18:26.44 | jelly-home | abyxcos: it's just ubuntu. |
| 18:26.55 | abyxcos | I woulda sworn redhat has it. |
| 18:27.11 | jelly-home | I don't think there's sudo on a RHEL base system |
| 18:27.17 | jelly-home | might be wrong |
| 18:27.57 | abyxcos | Then again, it's been a while since I've had the pleasure of using a RHEL-minimal install. |
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| 18:29.51 | abyxcos | When did nano become the default editor when $EDITOR and $VISUAL are unset? :P |
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| 18:31.18 | jelly-home | 1998 or so? |
| 18:31.37 | jelly-home | it's better than ae :-) |
| 18:31.47 | useless-eater | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/zFpVNwVm |
| 18:31.50 | abyxcos | When was ae ever the default? |
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| 18:32.03 | jelly-home | abyxcos: before nano |
| 18:32.12 | jelly-home | DUHHH |
| 18:32.37 | abyxcos | Maybe it's the fact that I don't use debian enough... But I thought the default was vi until they swapped to vim-castrated. |
| 18:32.38 | jelly-home | useless-eater: why fakeroot? |
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| 18:32.59 | jelly-home | abyxcos: not on Debian, I'm afraid |
| 18:33.20 | useless-eater | oh, sorry, that was what make-jpkg told me to use |
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| 18:33.45 | useless-eater | abyxcos: you like vi better than vim? |
| 18:34.09 | useless-eater | abyxcos: oh vim.tiny |
| 18:34.15 | abyxcos | useless-eater: I prefer vi to vim-castrated. For normal use I don't really care between vi and vim. |
| 18:34.40 | jelly-home | useless-eater: please read the instructions carefully and follow them to the letter. We're now at "id -a; bash -x make-jpkg jre-7u17-linux-x64.tar.gz", if that fails to show any clues we'll try strace again. |
| 18:35.06 | abyxcos | useless-eater: For larger stuff, I prefer vim though. I'm lazy and enjoy syntax highlighting. |
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| 18:36.14 | XiRoN | other than using iftop, is there an easy way to find out how much Mbps im using on my eth0 |
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| 18:37.49 | useless-eater | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/r5sCCdCV |
| 18:38.25 | LtL | XiRoN: iptraf |
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| 18:38.34 | jeet | anyone know gstreamer? |
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| 18:40.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | the gstreamer developers, I guess |
| 18:40.46 | useless-eater | jelly-home: Ill do a restart in a while, and Ill try again, since this is pretty strange. Ill tell you if it works or not :) |
| 18:40.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | and some of the people using it |
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| 18:41.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | and people integrating it into their own projects |
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| 18:41.44 | hub2 | Hi,What do you think about this tutorial is it worth reading http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ ? |
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| 18:41.59 | jelly-home | useless-eater: oh great, seems you _have to_ run as fakeroot apparently? Ok. Do this: fakeroot sh -c 'echo "Key is =$FAKEROOTKEY="; bash -x make-jpkg jre-7u17-linux-x64.tar.gz' |
| 18:42.20 | jeet | #gstreamer is pretty quiet :( |
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| 18:42.30 | jelly-home | useless-eater: restart without having a real reason seldom helps |
| 18:42.39 | useless-eater | yea I guess |
| 18:42.48 | abyxcos | Dev-channels tend to be quiet. Ask in there, and idle, or try their mailing list. |
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| 18:45.14 | useless-eater | jelly-home: fakeroot sh -c echo "Key is =$FAKEROOTKEY=" output="" |
| 18:46.05 | jelly-home | useless-eater: you need to quote everything after -c |
| 18:46.26 | jelly-home | fakeroot sh -c 'echo "Key is =$FAKEROOTKEY="' |
| 18:46.59 | jelly-home | really. copy the commands EXACTLY AS WRITTEN |
| 18:47.10 | useless-eater | Key is =1095721461= |
| 18:47.22 | jelly-home | ok, so that's not the problem |
| 18:47.41 | jelly-home | now run: fakeroot sh -c 'echo "Key is =$FAKEROOTKEY="; bash -x make-jpkg jre-7u17-linux-x64.tar.gz' |
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| 18:49.51 | useless-eater | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/afzyCHQD |
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| 18:50.37 | jelly-home | useless-eater: You should NOT be able to do "touch /lib/.test" as normal user. |
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| 18:50.59 | useless-eater | jelly-home: ouch |
| 18:51.08 | jelly-home | useless-eater: ls -ld / /lib will reveal one or more insecure permissions |
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| 18:52.09 | useless-eater | ohh you are right, there are some major error right there |
| 18:52.47 | jelly-home | you'll have to investigate further and try to find out the cause, who knows what else is messed up |
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| 18:53.14 | jelly-home | mightwant to search your backup history, see which day things broke |
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| 18:54.40 | abyxcos | Anyone know what the minimal grub config requires these days? |
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| 18:55.24 | jelly-home | like... a disk to install it to? 62 sectors free space before the first partition? |
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| 18:55.58 | jelly-home | round it up to 64 or 2048 and you're safe |
| 18:56.01 | abyxcos | I was more thinking grub.cfg, but sure, I could use that list too. |
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| 18:56.39 | abyxcos | However, grub is working by providence, so I don't really want to try and re-install or update it through debian. |
| 18:56.40 | jelly-home | to be honest, I let grub-mkconfig (update-grub, on Debian) generate it if it's missing |
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| 18:57.09 | abyxcos | I don't want to install grub on debian, as I'm pretty certain something will get boned up. |
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| 18:58.26 | jelly-home | abyxcos: if you have multiple linux OSes installed, let only one (say, the latest one) manage the boot loader |
| 18:58.54 | abyxcos | jelly-home: Right now I'm not letting any manage it as I don't trust them. |
| 18:58.55 | jelly-home | os-prober does a reasonably decent job of finding other Linux partitions and adding them to the menu |
| 18:59.04 | useless-eater | jelly-home: thanks a lot for uncovering this!! |
| 18:59.27 | jelly-home | useless-eater: you're welcome, it was rather interesting |
| 18:59.33 | abyxcos | jelly-home: Anymore, I find stuff breaks if you're not using a simple bios layout. |
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| 19:01.17 | abyxcos | Unforteantly, grub2 is the only bootloader with the features I need these days :P |
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| 19:01.46 | abyxcos | Bah, "dracut Warning: Could not boot." |
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| 19:03.18 | jelly-home | huh, there's dracut on debian? |
| 19:03.27 | abyxcos | My ramdisk can't remember about my root partition half the time, grub doesn't do much better. |
| 19:03.29 | jelly-home | abyxcos: why not initramfs-tools? |
| 19:03.47 | abyxcos | Cause dracut generated a working config about 70-80% more often. |
| 19:03.49 | jelly-home | they're default. default means a better tested tool |
| 19:04.48 | abyxcos | Actually, neither is installed by default. |
| 19:04.49 | jelly-home | abyxcos: what kind of a partition table format do you use on the boot disk, then? |
| 19:04.58 | abyxcos | efi. |
| 19:05.00 | jelly-home | abyxcos: initramfs-tools are in the base system. |
| 19:05.09 | jelly-home | abyxcos: ia64? amd64? |
| 19:05.13 | abyxcos | Nah, they're not. |
| 19:05.16 | abyxcos | amd64. |
| 19:05.36 | abyxcos | There are 60 or so packages in the base system. Less isn't part of the base on amd64. |
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| 19:05.57 | abyxcos | There's not as much in base as you'd believe. |
| 19:06.23 | jelly-home | ok, they are however in the installation d-i gives you |
| 19:06.41 | abyxcos | I don't have d-i, so it's all wishes. |
| 19:06.53 | jelly-home | how did you install? |
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| 19:07.05 | abyxcos | That magic install script that installs base. |
| 19:07.12 | jelly-home | debootstrap? |
| 19:07.18 | abyxcos | Yea, that one. |
| 19:07.33 | abyxcos | (Did you know gentoo has an up to date version of debootstrap available?) |
| 19:07.45 | jelly-home | why wouldn't they! |
| 19:08.29 | jelly-home | oh well, I know almost nothing on EFI so I'm going to stay quiet |
| 19:09.59 | abyxcos | All I know is it's been widely available for over 7 years, and linux tools still pretend it doesn't exist. |
| 19:10.39 | jelly-home | more, if you count itanium |
| 19:10.47 | abyxcos | The 2006 intell macbooks (the first line) shipped with efi support, and it's still just as hard to boot linux on them as it was then. |
| 19:10.51 | abyxcos | *intel. |
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| 19:11.50 | abyxcos | Well, it's a bit better. Last time I used freebsd to partition up a mac so I could drop linux on it. |
| 19:12.02 | jelly-home | Macs are special, far as I hear. It was not hard to install sarge on a test HP Itanium box, back in... 2003 or so |
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| 19:12.07 | abyxcos | Now I can just use sysrescuecd and gentoo to parition them. |
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| 19:12.37 | abyxcos | Nah, not really. Nothing special about them except for the OSX trackpad drivers. |
| 19:12.49 | jelly-home | the other meaning of "special" |
| 19:13.13 | abyxcos | Actually, it was slightly easier to drop linux on my macbook than it was on this computer, ignoring the freebsd detour. |
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| 19:15.30 | tyvil | what distro was easier abyxcos ? |
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| 19:16.09 | abyxcos | Nothing linux. All of the bsd's have accepted the fact that people use EFI systems these days. |
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| 19:16.43 | tyvil | GNU userland is bloated too, but BSD has its issues |
| 19:16.54 | abyxcos | So... this initramfs package just ran dracut after it generated an image... Great. |
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| 19:17.21 | abyxcos | The largest issue I see with BSD's is lack of drivers, which is why I'm forced to be using linux. |
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| 19:17.55 | tyvil | FreeBSD works well on macbooks |
| 19:18.09 | abyxcos | Freebsd doesn't have 64-bit broadcom drivers. |
| 19:18.10 | tyvil | But in my experience Linux is hard |
| 19:19.29 | jelly-home | !be a Linux Barbie |
| 19:19.29 | dpkg | Aww, Linux is HARD! Let's go shopping, jelly-home |
| 19:19.37 | abyxcos | I don't think linux is any harder; excluding the chronic lack of documentation. |
| 19:19.47 | tyvil | dpkg: I meant GNU/Linux was hard to get working on a macbook pro |
| 19:19.47 | dpkg | tyvil: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 19:20.01 | jelly-home | don't blame the bot |
| 19:20.14 | tyvil | :o |
| 19:20.15 | tyvil | oo |
| 19:20.17 | tyvil | thats the bot |
| 19:20.19 | abyxcos | Linux is harder to get working on *any* computer using efi. |
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| 19:20.43 | tyvil | meh |
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| 19:20.50 | tyvil | just change bootloader in bios |
| 19:20.52 | tyvil | oh that was so hard |
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| 19:21.30 | abyxcos | I didn't really want to use bios, but sure, it would have been easy. |
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| 19:21.51 | tyvil | I mean |
| 19:21.55 | abyxcos | Anyway, all I have is some bios emulation. |
| 19:22.12 | jelly-home | abyxcos: dude, if you have the option to use bios emulation, just do that and get on with your life |
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| 19:22.15 | tyvil | I don't really want bloat from apt pulling in dependencies all day even if I use --no-install-recommends flag, but I put up with it because Debian is a better solution than Gentoo on this one PC |
| 19:22.25 | tyvil | Because it werkz |
| 19:22.38 | tyvil | So if BIOS will make your GNU/Linux install 'just werk,' then why not use it? |
| 19:22.40 | nonconvergent | How to get a list of installed applications by arch? |
| 19:22.52 | jelly-home | abyxcos: we do that on IBM blade servers, while poor Windows admins have to deal with UEFI because 2012 detects it |
| 19:23.25 | jelly-home | 2008 R2 too |
| 19:23.58 | abyxcos | Because syncing the bios emulation table with the efi table is a major headache every system update. |
| 19:24.12 | jelly-home | no efi table here ;-) |
| 19:24.22 | abyxcos | It would be easier if linux userland tools just accepted people want to use it, instead of putzing around with systemd and pulseaudio. |
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| 19:29.49 | abyxcos | What is /etc/hostid? |
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| 19:30.30 | jelly-home | a file to be read by the hostid command, mostly obsolete |
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| 19:31.35 | abyxcos | I see... The man-page just redirects to the info page :P |
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| 19:31.54 | _michi_ | Hi there! Is anybody aware of the way to extract files marked deleted from a 7zip archive? I think they are still in the archive but just flagged as deleted. |
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| 19:32.13 | jelly-home | a very old unix way to get a number uniquish for the current hardware |
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| 19:32.38 | jelly-home | sometimes used by licensing daemons |
| 19:33.05 | abyxcos | initramfs wants /etc/hostid today :P |
| 19:34.03 | jelly-home | exceedingly silly |
| 19:34.46 | abyxcos | Bah, why can't initramfs and dracut have the same syntax for passing filesystems? |
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| 19:37.09 | bitHipy | to list available backport versions of what I have, i ran => dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' | while read p; do aptitude -t squeeze-backports show $p; done | egrep -i '(^package:|^version:)' |
| 19:37.48 | bitHipy | it did not seem to work.. nothing has a backport version |
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| 19:38.42 | bitHipy | is there another way to do this? |
| 19:38.57 | jelly-home | !bdo list |
| 19:38.59 | dpkg | To list all packages you have installed from backports.debian.org: aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Debian Backports))' -F'%100p'; apt must know about the origin repository for this to work (i.e. you have a 'deb' line for it in sources.list and 'apt-get update' has been run). To list all backported packages available for your system: aptitude search '?origin(Debian Backports)'. See also <which repo>. |
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| 19:39.45 | hub2 | Can I set a quota for all users? |
| 19:39.59 | xand | yes |
| 19:40.08 | bitHipy | ty jelly-home |
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| 19:41.24 | bitHipy | jelly-home: on 2nd thought, looks like that does not answer the question |
| 19:41.38 | bitHipy | that lists backports already installed |
| 19:41.56 | bitHipy | I want to know what backport versions are available for what I have |
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| 19:42.27 | jelly-home | hmm, you're right |
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| 19:42.36 | jelly-home | has no idea |
| 19:43.13 | jelly-home | why not just add ~i to the origin search |
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| 19:43.18 | tensorpudding | i ran my machine in windows for a full day and couldn't trigger that crashing behavior i got |
| 19:43.36 | tensorpudding | i am starting to wonder if it's really a hardware problem |
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| 19:44.18 | jelly-home | and perhaps !~M |
| 19:44.25 | nonconvergent | http://paste.debian.net/249175/ |
| 19:44.54 | bitHipy | jelly-home: i'll have to study the manpage.. i'm not familar w/ these expressions |
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| 19:48.09 | nonconvergent | Installing libgl1-mesa-swx11:i386 wants to remove a lot of things like xorg, gim, openjdk-7-jdk, task-desktop...you know, nothing I'll miss. |
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| 19:49.37 | nonconvergent | Little help? |
| 19:49.39 | jelly-home | nonconvergent: don't do that, then? |
| 19:50.01 | jelly-home | not all the packages have been properly multiarchified yet |
| 19:50.05 | abyxcos | jelly-home: I'm not convinced initramfs is any better. I still don't have a working initrd. |
| 19:50.12 | nonconvergent | I kind of want it. I need the i386 libGL.so.1 |
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| 19:50.31 | nonconvergent | jelly-home: I managed to get them before on a different machine. |
| 19:50.32 | jelly-home | nonconvergent: if you use nvidia, use theirs |
| 19:50.43 | nonconvergent | use nvidia's what? |
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| 19:50.59 | jelly-home | theirs :i386 provider of libGL.so.1 |
| 19:51.15 | jelly-home | libgl1-nvidia-glx, I think |
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| 19:52.20 | hub2 | xand:By setting a quota to users group or in an other way? |
| 19:52.36 | nonconvergent | jelly-home: I was going by this: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libGL.so.1&mode=path&suite=testing&arch=i386 |
| 19:53.16 | jelly-home | nonconvergent: do you, or do you not have a nvidia card and using its drivers? |
| 19:53.31 | nonconvergent | jelly-home: I do. |
| 19:53.34 | xand | hub2: you enable them for a mounted filesystem and they'll be applied by default |
| 19:53.44 | confusid | how do I create a make file? |
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| 19:54.44 | ioq | does debian support Bluetooth 4.0 BLE ? |
| 19:54.55 | jelly-home | nonconvergent: well then, install 32bit nvidia bits. |
| 19:55.20 | jelly-home | that seems like a logical approach instead of installing software mesa 32bit libs |
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| 19:58.08 | hub2 | xand: So I only need to set group quota for 'users' group and it should be good? |
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| 20:00.08 | nonconvergent | jelly-home: I'm just annoyed that packages.debian.org won't search the nvidia packages. |
| 20:00.47 | nonconvergent | I also need libGLU.so.1 |
| 20:01.16 | jelly-home | they are, after all, non-free, but I suspect the issue there is packages.debian.org is rather out of date at the moment |
| 20:01.26 | nonconvergent | I'll try apt-file |
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| 20:01.52 | jelly-home | ,file libGL.so.1 --release wheezy --arch i386 |
| 20:01.56 | judd | Search for libGL.so.1 in wheezy/i386: libgl1-mesa-swx11: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1; libgl1-mesa-glx: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1; libgl1-fglrx-glx: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/fglrx/libGL.so.1; libgl1-nvidia-legacy-96xx-glx: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/nvidia/legacy-96xx/libGL.so.1; libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libGL.so.1; libgl1-nvidia-legacy-173xx-glx: usr/lib/i386 |
| 20:01.57 | judd | -linux-gnu/nvidia/legacy-173xx/libGL.so.1; libgl1-nvidia-glx: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/nvidia/current/libGL.so.1 |
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| 20:02.28 | jelly-home | nonconvergent: please do further searches in /msg judd file ... if you choose to use it |
| 20:02.40 | jelly-home | didn't expect so much crap |
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| 20:03.53 | nonconvergent | jelly-home: libGLU.so.1 is only in the mesa one. Got it. |
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| 20:04.13 | nonconvergent | libGL.so.1 is the only one I needed in the nvidia stuff. |
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| 20:07.03 | abyxcos | I hate initrd. |
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| 20:07.30 | nonconvergent | Thanks. Rebooteranging. Could just restart X but I'm lazy. |
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| 20:08.03 | abyxcos | ctrl-alt-backspace, and your DM service will auto-restart? |
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| 20:08.44 | jelly-home | abyxcos: that was disabled a couple years back |
| 20:08.48 | dutchfish | abyxcos, if you hate it so much, you could roll your own kernel as a monolitic, you quickly discover the benifits of initrd |
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| 20:09.11 | tensorpudding | how do i disable pulseaudio from starting in my gnome session |
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| 20:09.23 | jelly-home | his weirdo platform seems to take away someof the benefits |
| 20:09.26 | tensorpudding | unchecking it in startup applications did nothing |
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| 20:09.32 | abyxcos | dutchfish: As far as I can tell, I can't roll a monolithic kernel, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck. |
| 20:09.54 | abyxcos | jelly-home: And that's a dumb change :P |
| 20:10.12 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Why do you hate initrd? |
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| 20:10.38 | jelly-home | abyxcos: that's why I keep it reenabled, and also why any coworker can kill my X session |
| 20:10.43 | Stameni | <Stameni> hello, i want to upgrade cmus to 2.5 from experimental, i added repo and when type sudo apt-cache policy cmus here is waht it writes: |
| 20:10.44 | Stameni | <Stameni> http://paste.debian.net/249183/ |
| 20:10.44 | Stameni | <Stameni> how to upgrade ? |
| 20:10.48 | abyxcos | petn-randall: It's a real pain to keep in sync with the base system, and all of the generators are plain dumb. |
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| 20:11.25 | abyxcos | jelly-home: That's not a problem for me. They invented HR for a reason, might as well put them to work. |
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| 20:12.18 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Writing my own initrd scripts could possibly solve problem 2, but I can't guarantee that. |
| 20:12.20 | jelly-home | abyxcos: that means you can reenable it as well! yay! |
| 20:12.26 | bt6 | I'm trying to change my window title font through GNOME Tweak Tool but it's not changing. Can anyone help? |
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| 20:13.12 | abyxcos | jelly-home: It means when I actually need it, it's not going to be there, and I'm going to have to rampage through ps output with kill liberally. |
| 20:13.47 | cardiel | is there anyway to increase network responsiveness on my server? |
| 20:14.13 | jparkton | iptables |
| 20:14.22 | jparkton | filters and such |
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| 20:15.45 | abyxcos | More ram and cpu. Although increasing your budget will only stall the problem for a bit. |
| 20:15.46 | petn-randall | abyxcos: I've never had a problem with initrd, don't know what you mean. |
| 20:15.50 | jelly-home | abyxcos: I don't get it. You've just found out it's disabled, so reenable it on your workstations. |
| 20:15.54 | petn-randall | abyxcos: and I'm baking my own kernels. |
| 20:15.55 | hub2 | Is there a command that if i send it /dev/sdaX it will return only its UUID or i have to filter the return of blkid? |
| 20:16.11 | ioq | why is it when you go to some website to download an app, they've versions for various distrubutions? shouldn't you only need one version of the linux version of the app? since all linux distros use linux kernel and are POSIX compliant? |
| 20:16.13 | abyxcos | jelly-home: By time I get around to doing that, I'll have forgotten about it. |
| 20:16.25 | jelly-home | abyxcos: that's your real problem. |
| 20:16.58 | abyxcos | petn-randall: How do I include kernel modules in? -v isn't giving me any output as to why it's ignoring the initramfs-tools/modules file. |
| 20:17.08 | jelly-home | TODO: add Option "DontZap" "False" to Section "ServerFlags" everywhere |
| 20:17.30 | abyxcos | ioq: They're generally linked against the exact verions of the library that distro has. |
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| 20:17.57 | abyxcos | ioq: If they only used kernel and posix system calls, it would be fine, but no one can agree which version of libpng to bundle. |
| 20:18.33 | abyxcos | ioq: Larger projects like firefox just embed libpng and sqlite into the binary. |
| 20:19.09 | abyxcos | jelly-home: Also, X11 isn't installed yet I think. |
| 20:19.18 | Stameni | hello, i want to upgrade cmus to 2.5 from experimental, i added repo and when type sudo apt-cache policy cmus here is waht it writes: |
| 20:19.22 | abyxcos | jelly-home: But I'll get on that. |
| 20:19.23 | Stameni | http://paste.debian.net/249183/ |
| 20:19.23 | penguin1 | should maintenance on lxcontainers be done over ssh? or writing directly to their rootfs-directory? |
| 20:19.33 | Stameni | thow to upgrade to 2.5 from experimental ? |
| 20:20.37 | abyxcos | petn-randall: But as far as I can tell, update-initramfs is ignoring the modules config file. |
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| 20:22.38 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I am getting an error that a temp directory doesn't exist, so it's touching it, then spitting out another error that it's not a directory now. |
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| 20:23.58 | abyxcos | petn-randall: And the manpage doesn't have anything on writing module scripts. |
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| 20:30.55 | penguin1 | I want to install lxc on a system. Can it break the whole system in case of problems or is this unlikely? |
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| 20:33.43 | sprax | !core update |
| 20:34.16 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I'm open to help debugging this, but I'm not sure what output is valuable. |
| 20:34.19 | sprax | D7: My googling hasn't left me feeling confident. I need to upgrade core. can I do it with drush? Is there a step-by-step guide that I can follow? |
| 20:34.48 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Seems like my hooks aren't getting run, and no clue where my modules are being copied too. |
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| 20:38.01 | donh | Hi, anybody know much about fiber? |
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| 20:38.40 | donh | or a better place to ask? |
| 20:38.51 | abyxcos | What about fiber? |
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| 20:39.32 | donh | I am a noob to fiber. I want to share luns over fiber. |
| 20:40.12 | donh | Like a san maybe? |
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| 20:41.25 | abyxcos | So copy_exec() is being called, but for some reason manual_add_modules isn't being called, but only for this stuff... |
| 20:41.42 | abyxcos | donh: I don't think that's fiber specific. |
| 20:42.22 | abyxcos | donh: Personally, I would ask in #openbsd, but you may turn up a network person in here. |
| 20:42.29 | donh | Thanks. The card shows but I have no idea how to config it |
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| 20:43.29 | donh | or what packages may be needed. Not much deb specific stuf googling |
| 20:44.49 | donh | or maybe I am asking goog the wrong questions |
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| 20:52.38 | sprax | ugh, sorry, I joined #debian and not #drupal |
| 20:53.40 | ksuhku | !sorry |
| 20:53.40 | dpkg | Don't be sorry...but if you ever go against the Debian Family again... |
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| 20:53.58 | jelly-home | dpkg: factinfo sorry |
| 20:53.59 | dpkg | sorry -- last modified at Wed May 5 06:46:57 2004 by helix!~helix@adsl-154-209-113.clt.bellsouth.net; it has been requested 281 times, last by ksuhku, 18s ago. |
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| 20:57.03 | abyxcos | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=384043 |
| 20:57.07 | abyxcos | Well, there's my bug. |
| 20:57.12 | abyxcos | Closed because, uhh... |
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| 20:57.57 | abyxcos | But that's the same exact problem I'm experiencing. |
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| 20:58.14 | abyxcos | From 2006... |
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| 20:59.42 | abyxcos | Max Attems closed this because he didn't like the use case... :P |
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| 21:06.19 | abyxcos | Why can this script not return an error, "Module not found?" |
| 21:06.43 | abyxcos | How do I install modules into a directory for a kernel I'm not running? |
| 21:08.55 | abyxcos | How do I re-run the configure step from apt? |
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| 21:09.11 | jparkton | for your kernel? |
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| 21:09.25 | abyxcos | Seems the easiest. |
| 21:09.51 | jparkton | dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-whatevs |
| 21:09.58 | jparkton | possibly but I am not certain |
| 21:10.18 | abyxcos | Aye, that's it. Doesn't seem to have done the trick though... |
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| 21:13.20 | abyxcos | So how do I tell a kernel module .deb to target the kernel I'm not running yet? |
| 21:14.17 | petn-randall | abyxcos: I don't get your problem. I build my vanilla kernels with make-kpkg --initrd ... , this results in a .deb which builds the initrd in postinst. Problem solved? |
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| 21:15.07 | pfred1 | petn-randall I used make-kpkg but I went back to the old manual way and I don't use an initrd anymore either |
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| 21:15.31 | abyxcos | While not having an initrd would be nice, I don't think that's an option. |
| 21:15.39 | pfred1 | why not? |
| 21:15.46 | petn-randall | pfred1: You need initrd if you have luks, otherwise there's nothing that'll ask for the password. |
| 21:15.47 | abyxcos | I can't mount root. |
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| 21:16.11 | pfred1 | petn-randall I don't have luks |
| 21:16.11 | xgl | Bonne nuit ! Et Vive Julie Lescaut ! http://t.co/GjlzsuSjGN |
| 21:16.25 | pfred1 | I don't even know what luks is but I'm hoping it isn't catchy |
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| 21:16.52 | abyxcos | Great for your setup then, but not all of us are blessed with root filesystems that can be read by grub or the kernel. |
| 21:16.59 | petn-randall | abyxcos: You still haven't pasted any error messages or exact steps that lead to you problem. Yet you blame initrd, which works perfectly fine for everyone else. Do you actually WANT to get your problem solved? |
| 21:17.26 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Well, the part that's annoying me most is that I'm not getting any error messages. |
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| 21:17.48 | pfred1 | abyxcos I consider a filesystem that can be read by my OS less of a blessing and more planning on my part |
| 21:17.54 | abyxcos | petn-randall: My current problem is that the modules aren't installed for the kernel version I'm targetting, and initramfs couldn't be arsed to give me an error. |
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| 21:18.25 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Instead it silently drops them, and lets me figure that out on boot. |
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| 21:19.33 | abyxcos | pfred1: Eh, I don't really care about the GPL, so it's not an issue for me, except when installing a new OS. |
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| 21:19.42 | abyxcos | preds: And I try to install a new OS less than once a month. |
| 21:19.54 | preds | no u |
| 21:20.02 | pfred1 | abyxcos the GPL cares about you |
| 21:20.20 | petn-randall | abyxcos: How are you installing the modules? How are you installing the kernel? Is it a debian kernel? Are those debian modules? |
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| 21:20.49 | petn-randall | abyxcos: What modules are you trying to put into the initramfs, and why? |
| 21:20.57 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Liquorix kernel, installed via their deb repository. Kernel modules installed through the zfs repo also. |
| 21:21.11 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I'm trying to put my filesystem ones in so I can boot. |
| 21:21.22 | abyxcos | Err, mount my filesystem, so I can continue booting. |
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| 21:21.56 | abyxcos | petn-randall: The deb is installing the modules to the running kernel. |
| 21:22.16 | abyxcos | petn-randall: I need to install the modules to the kernel I just installed, so I can boot said *new* kernel. |
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| 21:22.20 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Any modules I add to /etc/modules get added to the initrd, AFAIR. |
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| 21:22.40 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Nope. Just read through the script for it. |
| 21:22.59 | Stameni | petn-randall, can u please help ? i need to upgrade cmus to 2.5 from experimental, i have added exp repo to sources list and wheni type apt-cache policy i see that there is 2.5 version available. but i dont know how to upgrade. when i type apt-get install it says that i allredy have the newest version ( 2.4 ) |
| 21:23.01 | Stameni | http://paste.debian.net/249183/ |
| 21:23.04 | abyxcos | petn-randall: Any modules that it can find. If the modules aren't in the target kernel's directory, it won't bundle them up. |
| 21:23.16 | Stameni | how to explicitly say to upgrade to 2.5 from experimental ? |
| 21:23.35 | abyxcos | petn-randall: So because it won't install the modules to kernel 3.8-6, I can't boot 3.8-6. |
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| 21:26.19 | abyxcos | To this point I've had no problems compiling and installing these by hand. |
| 21:26.30 | abyxcos | As soon as I try and do things the 'proper' way, *poof*. |
| 21:26.51 | confusid | I installed debscripts and for some reason I'm not finding debcheckout. |
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| 21:30.21 | jaybe | hi. i have a custom web server manually installed. debian apt/dpkg wants to install a web server (apache) to fulfill other requirements. how can i tell apt/dpkg that i already have a web server? thanks |
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| 21:33.22 | ksdncv | jaybe: equivs |
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| 21:34.38 | jaybe | ksdncv: thanks; happen to have a reference/doc to learn how to create a simple package to satisfy the web server requirement? |
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| 21:35.54 | ksdncv | only used it once long ago, can't remember how it was used other than recommending reading the man page |
| 21:36.11 | petn-randall | abyxcos: If the modules aren't in the /lib/modules/<kernelver>/ dir, how is update-initramfs supposed to pick them up? |
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| 21:36.53 | petn-randall | Stameni: apt-get install -t experimental cmus |
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| 21:37.11 | Stameni | petn-randall, tnx, i have just find it out on some forum post :) |
| 21:37.45 | abyxcos | petn-randall: That's what I'm working on right now. Except it wouldn't tell me the files didn't exist, so I spent an hour chasing that around before realizing it was installing to the wrong place. |
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| 21:39.57 | petn-randall | abyxcos: liquorix isn't Debian. You'll have to take it up on their forums. |
| 21:40.40 | abyxcos | It's a kernel. I have a .deb. This should be simple to tell the .deb to put it's files in a kernel. |
| 21:40.59 | abyxcos | As I said, works fine when I compile manually. |
| 21:41.10 | abyxcos | Works fine when I use dracut. |
| 21:41.38 | abyxcos | Silently dumps all my files and doesn't give any information even with -v with initramfs-tools. |
| 21:42.42 | jaybe | ksdncv: got it; thanks- that's what i needed. woot. # dpkg -i ./www-dummy_1.0_all.deb |
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| 21:47.01 | abyxcos | To answer my question, dkms build and dkms install. |
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| 21:48.41 | dimitry7 | Hi guys... I have a Dell PowerEdge R720 With Debian Squeeze 6.0 recently installed. Yesterday, I suddenly started to see messages that say: [1273.2381092] CPU3: Core Power limit notification (total views = 1) and CPU3: Package Power limit notification (total views = 1) |
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| 21:49.01 | dimitry7 | Do you have any Idea of why this happens and how can I fix it?... |
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| 21:56.29 | dimitry7 | is it the stepping feature? |
| 21:56.48 | petn-randall | dimitry7: which kernel? |
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| 21:57.27 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, I have the 3.2.0 from backports |
| 21:58.32 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, I've looked into the BIOS for stepping in order to disable it... but it isn't here |
| 21:58.46 | dimitry7 | just VT-x QPI speed .. etc |
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| 22:00.21 | ossgee | http://www.reddit.com/r/creativewriters/comments/1c8fth/creative_writing_and_day_dreaming_article_by_freud/ |
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| 22:00.38 | jelly-home | ossgee: #debian ? |
| 22:00.57 | petn-randall | dimitry7: Isn't that standard turbo boost working there? I'd guess it's just throttling the turbo boosted core when the other cores start getting load. |
| 22:01.12 | petn-randall | dimitry7: Unless it swamps your syslog, I'd guess it's harmless. |
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| 22:03.38 | dimitry7 | turbo boost is that feature in new CPUS that allows processor cores to run faster than the base operating frequency if theyre operating below power ? |
| 22:03.54 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, aturbo boost is that feature in new CPUS that allows processor cores to run faster than the base operating frequency if theyre operating below power ? |
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| 22:07.48 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, sorry, what is :throttling the turbo boosted core ?? |
| 22:08.03 | dimitry7 | what does it mean? |
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| 22:11.07 | petn-randall | dimitry7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Turbo_Boost |
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| 22:12.03 | petn-randall | dimitry7: My guess is this happens when all CPU reach the thermal limit that the turbo boosted core gets throttled. |
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| 22:12.46 | petn-randall | dimitry7: Well, it's not even saying it's getting throttled. It just says it reached the limit. |
| 22:13.33 | ompaul | petn-randall: several years ago we had a machine where the cpu fan had failed, it was a small in house web server sitting in a shuttle box (think mini itx but the box was maybe 4 cd players high and 1.5 times as long ... anyway the box speed fell though the floor |
| 22:13.56 | ompaul | petn-randall: it still ran tomcat and java uglyness but it kept working |
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| 22:15.21 | ompaul | when we stuck a desk fan behind it and pushed more air in though the psu fan vent it worked ok for a few days while we migrated them to better hardware |
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| 22:15.55 | pfred1 | ompaul I've used the external fan trick myself |
| 22:16.26 | petn-randall | ompaul: Java? I would have put that poor thing down. |
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| 22:17.20 | ompaul | petn-randall: it was under my control in that I provided network and clients but not the server |
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| 22:22.48 | hellyeah | hey |
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| 22:23.03 | pfred1 | horses |
| 22:23.06 | sprax | can someone tell me how to copy all files from one directory to another, including hidden .files? I asked google, came up with cp -rv /source /destination, but it didn't do anything for me |
| 22:23.13 | hellyeah | i have ralink 11n wireless usb adapter. I am carious about firmware-ralink includes that |
| 22:23.35 | hellyeah | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter |
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| 22:24.59 | petn-randall | sprax: It surely did something ... |
| 22:25.33 | petn-randall | hellyeah: Is that a question? |
| 22:25.52 | hellyeah | yeah |
| 22:26.51 | ChibaPet | He wonders if firmware-ralink has support for his RTL8191SU. |
| 22:27.11 | ompaul | hellyeah: go look at the nice bot message and web page /msg dpkg wireless |
| 22:27.25 | ompaul | hellyeah: it will carry you from not knowing to being sorted |
| 22:27.28 | hellyeah | yeah |
| 22:27.36 | hellyeah | ChibaPet: you got me |
| 22:28.02 | hellyeah | ompaul: how he understood my cariousity |
| 22:28.07 | hellyeah | i wonder |
| 22:28.14 | hellyeah | if you are expert |
| 22:28.15 | ChibaPet | Adaptive processing. Works wonders. |
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| 22:28.44 | ompaul | hellyeah: do this apt-cache search RTL8191 if you have contrib and non-free enabled |
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| 22:29.38 | hellyeah | result is firmware-ralink |
| 22:29.52 | ompaul | hellyeah: I guess your question is resolved then |
| 22:29.55 | ChibaPet | Hm, http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x suggests firmware-realtek. |
| 22:30.20 | ompaul | hellyeah: apt-get install firmware-ralink |
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| 22:32.05 | ChibaPet | apt-cache agrees with the wiki on my box - firmware-realtek. Wonder what's different... |
| 22:32.42 | ompaul | firmware-realtek cos I can typo or he can or something |
| 22:33.01 | ompaul | I cut and pasted his bad idea |
| 22:33.14 | ChibaPet | heh |
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| 22:33.39 | ompaul | ChibaPet: I suggest that errors show mindsets but that's just what I think - you may differ |
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| 22:36.09 | hellyeah | while installing package i did ctrl+z not it gives error W: Could not lock the cache file; this usually means that dpkg or another apt tool is already installing packages. Opening in read-only mode; any changes you make to the states of packages will NOT be preserved! |
| 22:36.14 | hellyeah | how can i fix this |
| 22:36.38 | ChibaPet | type the command "fg" |
| 22:37.08 | ChibaPet | control-z puts commands in the background - then fg brings them back, or bg starts them running again in the background |
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| 22:37.39 | hellyeah | i didnt know that command thanks |
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| 22:39.21 | ChibaPet | or if you want to nuke the process you just backgrounded, you can say "kill -9 %1" |
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| 22:39.39 | ChibaPet | or say "jobs" to see a list of background processes |
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| 22:42.10 | Ponch0 | dpkg: send me something about nvidia |
| 22:42.10 | dpkg | Ponch0: I give up, what is it? |
| 22:42.26 | Ponch0 | dpkg: nvidia installation |
| 22:42.26 | dpkg | Ponch0: i haven't a clue |
| 22:42.37 | Ponch0 | dpkg: you smoke cigarettes? |
| 22:42.38 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 22:42.38 | pfred1 | try tell me about nvidia |
| 22:42.48 | Ponch0 | dpkg: tell me about nvidia |
| 22:42.55 | Ponch0 | thanks pfred1 |
| 22:42.58 | pfred1 | np |
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| 23:15.28 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:16.02 | nully | Neal_: THe VHOST config files (/etc/apache2/sites_available) are read alphanumeric order... So simply putting 00_ in front of your config file will make it load first .... The default host is usually set there (or just in apache2.conf) |
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| 23:16.33 | nully | Neal_: Because if a vhost doesnt match, the vhost module passes us to the regular webserver... (/var/www by default) so just change that. |
| 23:16.55 | Neal_ | nully: cool, thanks |
| 23:17.02 | nully | Good luck ^^ |
| 23:17.10 | fireant | acu: I've tried it and it got terribly slow after few months of use, also there where some problems after computer hard reset, that was 3-4 months ago maybe it is fixed now |
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| 23:19.49 | acu | fireant: thanks a bunch, noticed that btrfs is under heavy development, and I wanted "first" hand experience with it - I guess also that it may need a bit more knowledge to finely tune it than using ext4 or xfs |
| 23:20.05 | acu | fireant: it was a workstation /laptop or server ? |
| 23:20.44 | fireant | acu: desktop (backed up every day ;) |
| 23:21.08 | acu | but you did not loose files - just got slower |
| 23:21.35 | acu | did you use volume snapshot etc --? it seem it does not need lvm anymore |
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| 23:21.58 | kevingranade | I have a general licensing question, is that an ok topic for this channel? |
| 23:22.01 | fireant | acu: snapshots are great feature, also ability to shrink and grow fs to the medium size is fantastic and u can attach additional devices like with lvm |
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| 23:22.34 | acu | fireant: whao that seem cool |
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| 23:23.08 | acu | actually I want to setup a ceph environment, I am new both to btrfs and ceph, but I need their features |
| 23:23.29 | acu | and actually btrfs is on background on ceph - ceph has its own fs |
| 23:23.45 | acu | kevingranade, just ask |
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| 23:26.54 | kevingranade | I'm migrating a project (cataclysm-dda) from ARR to CC-BY-SA (the original author has already licensed the project to CC-BY-SA, and is unwilling to release his changes in anything else). From what I understand I need all remaining contributors to make a statement retroactively releasing their contributions under the new license. |
| 23:27.38 | kevingranade | is a brief statement, "The undersigned release all contributions to the Cataclysm project under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License." sufficient for this purpose? |
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| 23:28.26 | kevingranade | my plan is to add a SIGNOFF file to the repository, and direct all contributors to "sign" the file by adding their handle/email/name to the file via a commit and pull request |
| 23:28.31 | acu | kevingranade, :) I am almost sure nobody will answer this question in here, I remember there is a channel on gnu - or somethng like this, the people there were more knowlegebale |
| 23:28.47 | kevingranade | you mean #gnu? |
| 23:29.09 | kevingranade | and thanks, knowing where to ask is nearly as valuable as the answer |
| 23:29.31 | acu | I forgot exactly, sorry, but I had a lot of questions and ended up in two chatrooms, where people were really good about it |
| 23:29.35 | kevingranade | all I've received elsewhere was "don't use CC for that" |
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| 23:34.09 | kevingranade | also you're not off the hook yet, I'll be back with packing questions I'm sure |
| 23:34.16 | kevingranade | packaging |
| 23:34.21 | petn-randall | kevingranade: My suggestion: If it's software use either GPL, LGPL or MIT, preferably in that order. CC isn't a good software license. |
| 23:34.48 | kevingranade | the alternatives are ARR or CC-BY-SA |
| 23:35.30 | kevingranade | oh, when pressed the author said something about writing their own license/PD dedication, so maybe that's an option :P |
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| 23:36.28 | petn-randall | kevingranade: You'll just end up being incompatible with all the other FOSS licenses in the world. Not a good starting point for a project, but your choice. |
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| 23:36.40 | kevingranade | no, it's not as a matter of fact |
| 23:36.46 | petn-randall | kevingranade: writing your own license is the worst. |
| 23:36.52 | kevingranade | I'm aware |
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| 23:37.04 | kevingranade | did you miss that I'm not the original author? |
| 23:37.13 | kevingranade | and that he's uncooperative? |
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| 23:37.29 | blackmir1oxx | hello |
| 23:37.30 | petn-randall | kevingranade: Oh, didn't know that. Then what's your part in this? |
| 23:37.58 | kevingranade | I'm a contributor who is trying to open up the code as much as possible |
| 23:38.42 | kfogel | Just installed testing amd_64 dist onto a Lenovo Thinkpad X220 tablet, via USB stick boot (created with unetbootin) then netinstall. Everything seemed to go fine, including GRUB install step, but then once it was completed and I took out the USB stick, the machine doesn't boot. Just powers up and, after the ThinkPad startup splash screen, shows a blinking cursor in upper left. No sign of a Linux bootup. Any suggestions on |
| 23:38.42 | kfogel | debugging that? |
| 23:39.26 | kevingranade | the original author applied CC-BY-SA, and I'm working on getting the remaining contributions (made when the project was ARR) also licensed as CC-BY-SA, so we (the project) will at least have legitimate distribution/modification/etc rights |
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| 23:40.04 | acu | kfogel: how big is your hard disk, how did you format it ? you need to have mbr not gpt (or how you call it) |
| 23:40.24 | scottj | when booting I see a message that isn't in syslog or dmesg, is there another place to look? it scrolls to fast to read but it mentions correction and that word isn't in those files |
| 23:40.26 | kevingranade | I'd massively prefer to have it released GPL, or even MIT or BSD, but the giy's obstinate |
| 23:40.30 | kfogel | acu: thanks. It's a brand-new 256GB SSD. I just followed the installer (chose LVM encrypted hard drive). |
| 23:40.56 | petn-randall | kevingranade: I see, that's unfortunate. Then the way you described is the only way. |
| 23:41.11 | mastro | I remember there was a way of installing some package from an higher version (say: from unstable when running on testing) -- can someone point me to the name of the feature? |
| 23:41.13 | kfogel | acu: I'm pretty sure MBR was the default. |
| 23:41.15 | petn-randall | kfogel: Do you have another OS on there? |
| 23:41.25 | kevingranade | yea, I'm probably the least happy about it of anyone |
| 23:41.26 | kfogel | petn-randall: nope. hard drive is brand new |
| 23:41.29 | petn-randall | kfogel: UEFI boot takes a bit more of work. |
| 23:41.38 | kfogel | petn-randall: and I gave the installer permission to blow away whatever it found :-). |
| 23:41.51 | mastro | a while ago I used pinning, but I recall there was some more modern and easy way to do so now |
| 23:41.57 | kfogel | petn-randall: I went into the BIOS and turned off UEFI, just to see. Maybe I need to fiddle around in there some more. |
| 23:42.02 | acu | kfogel: I see, one make sure you have proper table - second, I do no know for sure wheather /boot can be encrypted - but I know one thing, you need sure mbr |
| 23:42.10 | kfogel | mastro: I know the feature you mean, but also can't remember the standard name for it :-(. |
| 23:42.22 | kfogel | acu: thnaks |
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| 23:42.32 | petn-randall | kfogel: Whatever you do, it'll stop booting if you have the UEFI/Compat switch in a different setting then at install. |
| 23:42.37 | kfogel | acu: I guess I'll redo the install and watch more carefully next time. |
| 23:42.42 | kfogel | petn-randall: oh really, ok |
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| 23:42.59 | kfogel | petn-randall: dang, I just want to turn that UEFI stuff completely off, but the options in BIOS are more complicated than that. Will take a look. |
| 23:43.04 | acu | kfogel: though it should not be the case having /boot with ext4 100 MB partition might help |
| 23:43.16 | petn-randall | kfogel: I have the x230 :) |
| 23:43.16 | kfogel | acu: *nod* ok |
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| 23:43.22 | kfogel | petn-randall: Maybe I should buy that :-). |
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| 23:43.28 | mastro | kfogel, may it be the -t (--target-release / --default-release) option? |
| 23:43.51 | petn-randall | kfogel: if you have / on the encrypted partition, you need /boot to be unencrypted. |
| 23:43.52 | pfred1 | just say no to UEFI |
| 23:44.03 | abyxcos | kfogel: I missed the front half, but do you have the right GPT parition at the start of your drive? |
| 23:44.19 | kfogel | mastro: hmrmrm. Not sure. Have you tried just editing /etc/apt/sources.list and doing apt-get update / install with it temporarily edited? |
| 23:44.31 | kfogel | abyxcos: um, don't know. |
| 23:44.45 | kfogel | abyxcos: how would I discern that, during the install or pre-boot startup process? |
| 23:44.52 | abyxcos | kfogel: Just a sec, looking up the parition alignments. I have it sitting around somewhere. |
| 23:44.57 | kfogel | abyxcos: thank you |
| 23:45.10 | mastro | kfogel, uh no I would rather avoid that... it was something with APT::Default-Release... googling |
| 23:45.11 | petn-randall | mastro: pinning is not obsolete. |
| 23:45.26 | abyxcos | kfogel: I have UEFI too, the hardest part was finding a GPT enabled partiioner. |
| 23:45.42 | kfogel | abyxcos: clearly time for me to look up what GPT means, brb |
| 23:45.44 | kfogel | :-) |
| 23:45.46 | nonconvergent | javac is using openjdk-7 and java is using openjdk-6...how do I fix this? |
| 23:46.07 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Wheezy worked fine for me :) |
| 23:46.08 | abyxcos | kfogel: It's the efi partioning format, contrasted to mbr (and bios.) |
| 23:46.18 | acu | kfogel: just make sure that /boot is unencrypted and not GPT - use MBR it will work |
| 23:46.39 | petn-randall | abyxcos, kfogel, GPT is independent of (U)EFI. You can have a GPT partition with a old BIOS. |
| 23:46.57 | nonconvergent | http://paste.debian.net/249208/ What I tried didn't work. |
| 23:47.12 | petn-randall | and you can boot from MBR with UEFI ... |
| 23:47.18 | acu | petn-randall, but you need really to be above average smart to make GPT boot :) |
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| 23:47.29 | mastro | petn-randall, I remember using pinning a lot of time ago, and I found it a little annoying.. then 1 years ago (more or less) someone here suggested me another way that I found a lot more comfortable with... unluckily I forgot how it was |
| 23:47.33 | abyxcos | kfogel: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_on_ZFS |
| 23:47.46 | abyxcos | kfogel: Under the "Parition the drive" heading. |
| 23:47.48 | mastro | petn-randall, I don't want to say pinning is obsolete, I'm just looking for that *other* way |
| 23:48.03 | petn-randall | mastro: Another way for what? What do you want to do? |
| 23:48.18 | abyxcos | kfogel: In your case, replace ZFS with your encrypted volume. |
| 23:48.24 | mastro | petn-randall, install a package from unstable (and any of the needed dependency for it) |
| 23:48.43 | abyxcos | kfogel: Also, the mountpoint for partition 1 should be /boot/EFI. |
| 23:49.32 | petn-randall | mastro: If you have sid in the sources.list, you won't get around pinning. Else you'll upgrade your system to sid sooner or later. |
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| 23:49.43 | petn-randall | !frankendebian |
| 23:49.44 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 23:49.50 | petn-randall | mastro: also this ^^ |
| 23:49.52 | abyxcos | kfogel: The stumbling block I hit was making sure my EFI-bios stopped emulating bios. |
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| 23:50.41 | kfogel | abyxcos, petn-randall, acu: hey, thank you so much for all the hints. I'm saving this transcript (have to duck out for a while now), but will be retrying soon. I've got a lot of googling to do, but hopefully this will work soon! |
| 23:50.48 | nonconvergent | Ah, I didn't have icedtea-7-plugin |
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| 23:51.15 | abyxcos | kfogel: Feel free to ping me when you get back. I'll probably still be putzing around in here. |
| 23:51.56 | mastro | petn-randall, I'm aware of that... but I'm 100% sure there was a way to keep all the system to a version (say, testing/wheezy) and set a single package "default / target repository" to unstable (or another repository) so that I could install it from there, and it would also automatically try to handle dependency. to go back I just had to re-set the default repo to testing and reinstall |
| 23:52.08 | kfogel | abyxcos: much appreciated. "later" probably means weekend or Monday (have learned that relationships do better when one doesn't keep saying "Honey, I have to get back to my Linux install" after dinner), but soon. |
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| 23:53.11 | abyxcos | kfogel: Feel free. There may be a bit more lag between my responses by then, but I don't forsee my problems getting fixed soon either :P |
| 23:53.28 | mastro | petn-randall, does that sound familiar to you? |
| 23:53.43 | petn-randall | mastro: If you add sid to your sources.list, it'll have higher versioned packages with the same pinning for selection. The next apt-get upgrade would pull you to sid. |
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| 23:53.57 | kfogel | abyxcos: you're having a problem? I didn't see it in backscroll; feel free to point me to paste or whatever -- if I can help, I will. |
| 23:54.11 | petn-randall | mastro: Sure, you could add sid, install the single package and then remove it again, but that's a lot more cumbersome than simply pinning ... |
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| 23:55.17 | petn-randall | then remote it, it being sid. |
| 23:55.27 | petn-randall | *remove |
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| 23:55.38 | abyxcos | Does anyone know the command offhand to extract initramfs? |
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| 23:57.43 | abyxcos | Also, does anyone know why gzip has a stick up it's arse about non .gz suffixes? |
| 23:57.49 | useless-eater | 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux < from uname -a Im asked what version I got of debian: 6.0.{1..7} which one is upgraded debian wheezy? :) |
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| 23:58.05 | kfogel | abyxcos: re the latter: don't know :-(. |
| 23:58.18 | kfogel | abyxcos: (er, and same re the former, unfortunately) |
| 23:58.52 | abyxcos | In case anyone else is wondering, gunzip < initrd.img | cpio -i |
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| 23:58.58 | petn-randall | abyxcos: Google didn't find anything? |
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| 23:59.17 | isaias | doesn anyone actually use Epiphany? |
| 23:59.18 | petn-randall | useless-eater: 'cat /etc/debian_version' will tell you, the kernel won't. |
| 23:59.20 | abyxcos | petn-randall: No; they don't mention running file on the .img to figure out what it's compressed as today. |
| 23:59.31 | mastro | petn-randall, you are right it was probably pinning.. |
