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| 00:00.16 | MrMonkey2 | ok ah, so dependencies... I've been compiling them myself when they aren't new enough from the aptitude doodad, right? is this going to bite me in the ass, like say if I've built and installed version 1.86 of something over and on top of 1.81? |
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| 00:04.04 | MrMonkey2 | cuz sometimes I read someplace that for my power-using, I need to upgrade package X, for example. gotta be done! |
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| 00:09.30 | MrMonkey2 | I guess what I'd like to know is, if Jim Linuxuser has nothing better to do than build + install things from source code, is there a garbage collection procedure that he should follow, generally, while doing so, or not as such... |
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| 00:43.22 | Somelauw | Is checkinstall a good idea or should I rather rely on people to create a make uninstall option in their buildsystem. I have had some troubles before when using checkinstall with some programs. |
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| 00:44.36 | Somelauw | although it has many dependencies and there is no package for it |
| 00:45.25 | Somelauw | on debian |
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| 01:04.00 | drag0nius | for software RAID1 i dont need 2 same models? |
| 01:04.01 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:04.28 | drag0nius | and disk's full self-test ending in failure most likely means its dying? Self test from GSmartControl |
| 01:04.34 | Towzzer | probabaly, I don't know gmsartcontrol |
| 01:04.39 | drag0nius | me neither, i always used Victoria for win32 ;d |
| 01:04.41 | Towzzer | I use bootable cds that companies provide |
| 01:04.41 | Towzzer | for their specific drives |
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| 01:05.37 | drag0nius | guess my best bet would be putting it into my comp and using soft i know how to use ;d |
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| 01:12.39 | guerrerofran | hi there |
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| 01:14.54 | MrMonkey2 | Help! |
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| 01:42.00 | MonkeyBoy | Is there a way to install debian on an Android tablet via Internet? |
| 01:42.02 | MonkeyBoy | i mean install a full debian no on top of Android or side by side |
| 01:42.07 | MonkeyBoy | like replace android with debian \ |
| 01:42.08 | MonkeyBoy | ? |
| 01:42.15 | ParkerR | Sortof. There is an Ubuntu 13.04 image for the Nexus 7 |
| 01:42.25 | MonkeyBoy | how can i install it since tablets do not have cds or dvds can I use the internet? |
| 01:42.26 | MonkeyBoy | and where can I download that ISO file? |
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| 01:42.32 | confusid | looking for compiz to install but not finding it for wheezy. |
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| 01:42.40 | ParkerR | confusid, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79892 |
| 01:42.42 | confusid | ParkerR: ty |
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| 01:42.53 | confusid | heh.. Sid it is :) |
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| 01:47.01 | confusid | ParkerR: Do you know why they mention it might be removed in sid later? |
| 01:47.17 | SerajewelKS | nothing like a loud noise and then a kernel oops during write-block to get the blood flowing |
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| 01:48.03 | ParkerR | confusid, No clue |
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| 03:30.20 | phix | hey, should I use the ::ffff:c0a8:0000 IPv6 block when I am also using the 192.168.0.0 IPv4 block for my LAN? |
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| 04:27.15 | kay- | hi i need help installing sun JDK on debian 7 |
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| 04:28.19 | kay- | Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 04:28.22 | kay- | ismessage i got |
| 04:28.48 | kay- | i have this in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:28.51 | kay- | deb http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free |
| 04:29.09 | Rusty1 | kay-: try : aptitude install openjdk-7-jre |
| 04:29.20 | kay- | that is not sun dsk |
| 04:29.23 | kay- | sun jdk |
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| 04:29.48 | kay- | i guess i'm just trying to install jre at this point |
| 04:30.15 | petn-randall | !java |
| 04:30.15 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:30.31 | petn-randall | kay-: The sun jdk is obsolete. |
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| 04:36.48 | kay- | okay |
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| 04:38.39 | kay- | how do I knwo what JAVA_HOME is |
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| 05:08.49 | IRCLemur | I'm trying to get ndiswrapper working in AVLinux - I've manually installed ndis-common, source, utils - as well as dkms, ndis-dkms & ndisgtk - but for some reason "FATAL: Modules ndiswrapper not found." |
| 05:09.00 | IRCLemur | Do I absolutely *have* to reboot? This is a live, non-persistant flash install... I just want to be able to get online occasionally while using it... No biggie for me to install a few packages each time I need to connect |
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| 05:10.09 | IRCLemur | I understand I can always remastersys, too... |
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| 05:19.42 | zykotick9 | !avlinux |
| 05:19.42 | dpkg | AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a Live DVD distribution based on Debian <testing>. It specializes in multimedia content creation using realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian. Support forum: http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/forums/index.php?board=20.0 . http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html See also <based on debian>. |
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| 05:23.30 | IRCLemur | zykotick9, Thank you. |
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| 05:30.25 | halfie | does Debian maintain a list of packages which must be hardened for security reasons? |
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| 05:40.53 | DBoyz | Hi. Can someone link me to docs that explains how to disable ftp? |
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| 06:15.54 | peterrooney | DBoyz: uninstall the package that is providing the ftp server. Your goal may be outside of the scope of any possible documentation. |
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| 06:17.48 | KaMii | does Debian use vsftp or openftp as default? |
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| 06:24.32 | peterrooney | KaMii: I don't think there is a default ftp server; you have to explicitly choose. |
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| 06:27.56 | peterrooney | aptitude search '~Pftp-server' |
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| 06:39.49 | relipse | In debian i created a new user, added a password, and when i used PuTTY to ssh my arrows and up keys and tabs are not working looking something like this: $ ^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[C^[[C^[[C^[[D^[[D <-- it was fine on root |
| 06:39.59 | relipse | squeeze |
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| 06:47.34 | h7n9 | the best root password is toor, live or one |
| 06:49.23 | relipse | In debian i created a new user, added a password, and when i used PuTTY to ssh my arrows and up keys and tabs are not working looking something like this: $ ^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[C^[[C^[[C^[[D^[[D <-- it was fine on root |
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| 07:04.52 | jeet | why can't i find loader.bin on this page?: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot |
| 07:04.58 | jeet | Trying to get Debian up on the raspberry pi... I see: Entering kdb (current=0xda82ac80), pid 1) due to Keyboard Entry |
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| 07:06.00 | CableNinja | evenin all, I had a backup client on my laptop, I did an apt-get update, the new version is broken (I dont need it anymore), and ran into errors while it was upgrading the package. I tried to remove it (also tried purge), but it says that the package is in an inconsistent state and that I need to re-install it. I cant get it to install because its broken, etc. how can I force remove this? |
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| 07:06.43 | relipse | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.54 | CableNinja | yes and yes |
| 07:07.08 | CableNinja | google will tell all |
| 07:07.13 | relipse | is it fairly simple? |
| 07:07.17 | jeet | google told me to get loader.bin |
| 07:07.21 | jeet | there is no loader.bin :( |
| 07:07.57 | CableNinja | relipse: for the most part, you install the gui, install a vnc server, connect over vnc |
| 07:08.24 | ectospasm | relipse: you should probably pick a lightweight desktop environment (DE) like LXDE or XFCE4, install that, and then connect with VNC |
| 07:08.41 | ectospasm | ...native X11 forwarding seems to be too slow. |
| 07:08.42 | CableNinja | jeet: try the bootcode.bin |
| 07:08.51 | CableNinja | I think its just named differently |
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| 07:09.07 | jeet | thanks |
| 07:09.09 | relipse | ectospasm: ok thans |
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| 07:09.14 | jeet | i remember considering that |
| 07:09.28 | jeet | :( |
| 07:09.54 | aaronk | Was gonna go with Debian for my Linode, but that idea didn't last too long... |
| 07:09.55 | CableNinja | meh, I wouldnt have considered it either until I read the last commit comment |
| 07:09.57 | CableNinja | jeet: ^ |
| 07:10.12 | aaronk | I want newer versions of everything :-( |
| 07:10.50 | jeet | :) |
| 07:10.59 | relipse | ectospasm: ok i'm doing this right now: aptitude install lxde xorg |
| 07:11.04 | relipse | soudn good? |
| 07:11.09 | relipse | how do i set up a vnc server? |
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| 07:11.38 | CableNinja | you could've gotten away with just lxde |
| 07:11.44 | CableNinja | it will get all the packages you need |
| 07:11.44 | jeet | oh |
| 07:11.48 | jeet | i remember now why i didn`t do it |
| 07:11.50 | relipse | ok now what do i do? |
| 07:11.54 | relipse | how do i get it to wokr? |
| 07:12.04 | jeet | the list of 4 files includes bootcode.bin and loader.bin |
| 07:12.08 | jeet | and loader.bin is missing |
| 07:12.12 | jeet | unless they merged the two |
| 07:12.16 | jeet | into bootcode.bin -_- |
| 07:12.19 | CableNinja | jeet: oh .-. |
| 07:12.23 | CableNinja | well that is a problem |
| 07:13.27 | CableNinja | yeh thats awesome.. its not in any of the past commits either |
| 07:13.33 | ectospasm | relipse: you'll have to search packages (aptitude search vnc) to find a VNC server that will work for you. |
| 07:13.58 | CableNinja | relipse: alternatively, google about a vnc server installation and install what it tells you to |
| 07:14.04 | ectospasm | aaronk: did you use squeeze, wheezy or sid? |
| 07:14.17 | aaronk | ectospasm: squeeze |
| 07:17.10 | ectospasm | aaronk: yeah, squeeze is behind on many software versions. Your alternatives if you don't want to install these packages from source are to use backports (the preferred method), or upgrade to wheezy |
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| 07:17.35 | ectospasm | wheezy is mostly stable now, so check the release critical (RC) bugs to see if any still apply to your application. |
| 07:17.41 | aaronk | ectospasm: yeah tried backports, didn't have Python 2.7 for one. |
| 07:17.54 | ectospasm | dpkg, tell aaronk -about RC bugs |
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| 07:18.15 | aaronk | I've gotten the impression that running on testing & unstable is generally discouraged, and comes with some big downsides |
| 07:19.24 | ectospasm | now that wheezy is frozen, it's not really as bad as it normally would be. |
| 07:19.46 | ectospasm | still, with any testing distribution, you need to be ready to file bug reports if you find any |
| 07:20.03 | ectospasm | ...if you're not willing to do that, then stick with squeeze. |
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| 07:21.41 | aaronk | ectospasm: I skipped over to Ubuntu ;-) |
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| 07:22.22 | ectospasm | yeah, Ubuntu is broken in different ways. I've always thought Ubuntu server was an oxymoron. |
| 07:22.38 | relipse | how do I get my GUI to work? after installing? |
| 07:22.47 | relipse | does it just pop up if I vnc into my machine? |
| 07:23.28 | aaronk | ectospasm: been running a client's app on Ubuntu for years, it's fared pretty well. |
| 07:23.59 | aaronk | ectospasm: stability is important, but so is Postgres 9.1, PostGIS 2.0, Python 2.7, recent nginx, etc. |
| 07:24.36 | ectospasm | well, if the app requires software that isn't available to squeeze, and you want to use Debian, wheezy or sid are your only options |
| 07:25.28 | ectospasm | aaronk: postgresql-9.1 is available in sid, likely wheezy as well. |
| 07:25.45 | ectospasm | same for python2.7 |
| 07:25.47 | aaronk | yeah, looked like it was available in wheezy |
| 07:26.31 | ectospasm | like I said, check the release critical bugs, make sure your application won't run into them, then go with wheezy |
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| 07:42.26 | krofna | Is there a program which will allow me to reverse a video (Not just play it backwards, but generate backwards played video)? |
| 07:43.05 | epitamizor | ffmpeg does that |
| 07:43.43 | DBoyz | IPv6 addrconf: prefix with wrong length 48 <-- how to i find the cause of this? and how to fix this? i am getting it in dmesg |
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| 07:44.42 | Dagger2 | configure radvd to advertise a /64 rather than a /48 (and use a /64 on the network itself rather than /48) |
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| 07:46.11 | DBoyz | err precisely please |
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| 07:47.30 | Dagger2 | what system are you seeing the message on? is it a VPS, or something else that's on somebody else's network? |
| 07:47.47 | DBoyz | VPS |
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| 07:49.16 | jeet | can i work everything in the terminal |
| 07:49.25 | jeet | any need to use the lightweight desktop environment GUI? |
| 07:49.37 | Dagger2 | I'm guessing you're not in control of the router for that network, then |
| 07:49.38 | Dagger2 | you'll just have to ignore it |
| 07:49.38 | ectospasm | jeet: no, no GUI is required. |
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| 07:49.58 | jeet | ok cuz i wish to run c++ programs with opencv libraries |
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| 07:50.03 | jeet | and i just booted up first time now |
| 07:50.05 | Dagger2 | (the cause is that your provider's an idiot and has no idea how to do v6 properly :/) |
| 07:50.57 | DBoyz | lol |
| 07:51.14 | DBoyz | so i tried: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/accept_ra and echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/autoconf |
| 07:51.22 | DBoyz | i am still getting spammed in dmesg :/ |
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| 07:55.19 | BenNZ | not sure what im doing wrong , but having trouble with ntp http://paste.debian.net/247772/ |
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| 07:56.08 | ectospasm | BenNZ: ntpdate has been deprecated for a LONG time. Use ntpd -g -q instead |
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| 07:57.12 | BenNZ | ectospasm: so like ntpd -g -q nz.pool.ntp.org ? |
| 07:57.35 | ectospasm | BenNZ: no, have /etc/ntp.conf configured appropriately, and drop the NTP server hostname. |
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| 07:58.43 | jeet | opencv will take 6-7 hours to build on rasp-pi?? |
| 07:58.57 | jeet | Building opencv source code in Raspberry Pi will take about 6-7 hours. |
| 07:59.02 | BenNZ | ectospasm: so how do i test that the config is correct ? |
| 07:59.06 | jeet | is that a 1 time install thing? |
| 07:59.15 | ectospasm | jeet: why build software on a RPi anyway, cross compile from another machine |
| 07:59.17 | Nik05 | jeet what? |
| 07:59.43 | ectospasm | BenNZ: you can run ntpd -g -q |
| 07:59.54 | ectospasm | ...if it can't read the configuration, it will tell you |
| 07:59.56 | Nik05 | jeet are you on raspbian? |
| 08:00.03 | jeet | sorry, my goal is to get my c++ program (which uses openCV libraries and speaks through serial comm. to an arduino) on the rasp-pi. yes debian. |
| 08:00.06 | BenNZ | ectospasm: ok just goes to the next line |
| 08:00.15 | babilen | jeet: You are not using raspbian? |
| 08:00.25 | jeet | um one sec |
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| 08:00.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell jeet -about raspberry pi |
| 08:00.47 | babilen | dpkg: tell jeet -about raspbian |
| 08:00.49 | ectospasm | BenNZ: do you have a server listed in ntp.conf? |
| 08:00.52 | jeet | yeah wheezy raspbian |
| 08:01.07 | Nik05 | #raspbian :D |
| 08:01.09 | BenNZ | ectospasm: yes |
| 08:01.17 | jeet | im in raspbian too |
| 08:01.19 | jeet | had no replies |
| 08:01.19 | babilen | jeet: raspian is /not/ Debian and is therefore not supported in here. Try #raspbian or #raspberrypi -- Good luck! |
| 08:01.20 | jeet | its 3 am here |
| 08:01.22 | ectospasm | BenNZ: does "date" report that your time is right? |
| 08:01.30 | jeet | ok thanks |
| 08:02.23 | BenNZ | ectospasm: yes but ive had to set when i booted , time is changing when i boot into debian , its correct in the bios , but when the time changes in debian , it gets changed in the bios |
| 08:03.33 | ectospasm | that's because the time is being stored in the hwclock as UTC |
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| 08:04.01 | ectospasm | ...if you have another OS installed that expects the BIOS time to be in localtime (like Windows), you should change that behavior. |
| 08:04.10 | BenNZ | ectospasm: ive run sudo hwclock -w --localtime , but on boot its still changes the clock foward an hour |
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| 08:04.26 | babilen | BenNZ: Are you dual booting? |
| 08:04.37 | BenNZ | babilen: yes |
| 08:04.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell BenNZ -about utc |
| 08:04.53 | BenNZ | babilen: but i havent booted into windows for some time |
| 08:05.17 | ectospasm | BenNZ: http://www.garron.me/linux/set-time-date-timezone-ntp-linux-shell-gnome-command-line.html |
| 08:05.42 | babilen | BenNZ: Linux typically expects the hardware time to be in UTC and then adjusts the /displayed/ time according to the timezone settings. Windows does not work that way and requires you to change the system time to localtime. |
| 08:06.24 | babilen | BenNZ: In short: edit /etc/default/rcS in Debian to your liking (not to use UTC) or ask in ##windows how to configure it there. |
| 08:06.25 | BenNZ | ectospasm: i get Sat 06 Apr 2013 21:05:46 NZDT -0.266451 seconds from hwclock --show |
| 08:06.45 | BenNZ | babilen: it already is set utc=no |
| 08:07.32 | babilen | BenNZ: Which version of Debian is that? |
| 08:07.43 | BenNZ | babilen: testing |
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| 08:09.01 | babilen | BenNZ: In that case take a look at /etc/adjtime, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554345 and hwclock(8) |
| 08:09.04 | CableNinja | I've got a package that wont install or uninstall, how do I force uninstall it |
| 08:09.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell CableNinja -about bat |
| 08:10.15 | BenNZ | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/247774/ is /etc/adjtime |
| 08:10.23 | BenNZ | babilen: but this is a bug? |
| 08:10.27 | babilen | brb |
| 08:10.34 | babilen | BenNZ: Did you read the bug? |
| 08:10.44 | babilen | Your setting looks fine |
| 08:10.51 | CableNinja | sorry babilen, I'll get the info |
| 08:10.52 | babilen | I'll be back later .. (sorry) |
| 08:11.39 | BenNZ | babilen: thats ok , this is what im so confused about , ill boot windows see if its right |
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| 08:14.51 | blackjack | how to cache youtube on squid i use debian |
| 08:14.59 | CableNinja | babilen: http://pastebin.com/hmS9x9wY |
| 08:15.03 | CableNinja | damn :\ |
| 08:15.11 | blackjack | http://cachevideos.com/#restart damn |
| 08:15.12 | CableNinja | alright, where thesres the info for my issue |
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| 08:15.36 | BenNZ | looks like im going to have to set the time manually each time i boot |
| 08:15.57 | ectospasm | dual-booting is for weenies, anyway |
| 08:16.30 | babilen | CableNinja: Don't use pastebin.com but a sensible pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net, http://paste.ubuntu.com or http://refheap.com |
| 08:16.43 | CableNinja | ... |
| 08:16.48 | CableNinja | its a pastebin.. |
| 08:16.52 | BenNZ | ectospasm: i dont know why i bother , dont often boot windows anyway |
| 08:17.03 | babilen | CableNinja: It asks for a captcha and is horrible in a lot of other ways |
| 08:17.11 | CableNinja | oh, I see.. |
| 08:17.17 | CableNinja | I just saw the captcha on my screen >.> |
| 08:17.27 | CableNinja | ok, try again |
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| 08:18.27 | CableNinja | babilen: ^^ |
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| 08:21.09 | babilen | CableNinja: You have to investigate why you cannot stop bacula. The important error is on line 4 and I would take a look at the init script and then investigate why it is not capable of cleanly stopping the daemon. |
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| 08:22.32 | CableNinja | babilen: |
| 08:22.33 | CableNinja | /etc/init.d/bacula-fd: 35: create_var_run_dir: not found |
| 08:22.33 | babilen | CableNinja: One way to do it is to edit the script and add a "set -x" after the "set -e" in there and then run "service bacula-fd stop" -- It is your installation though and if create_var_run_dir rings a bell you might want to share your insights into this. It sounds as if some data/files are missing, but I would have to read the script in question to understand this problem. |
| 08:22.41 | CableNinja | ^ theres the error |
| 08:22.46 | babilen | yes, exactly |
| 08:23.00 | CableNinja | so its a fubar in the init |
| 08:23.13 | babilen | CableNinja: Did you change anything about your bacula installation? |
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| 08:23.49 | CableNinja | no, to be honest, I havent even used it in over a year |
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| 08:24.01 | CableNinja | I forgot this service was even installed on this system |
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| 08:24.49 | CableNinja | screw it, I'm gonna hack it into stopping |
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| 08:25.28 | CableNinja | theres no such function in the lsb-functions or baculas common functions script |
| 08:25.36 | CableNinja | so I'm just going to make one do nothing |
| 08:25.41 | CableNinja | I'm removing it anyway |
| 08:26.04 | CableNinja | screw that |
| 08:26.06 | hebrewhammer | does anyone here speak hebrew? |
| 08:26.07 | CableNinja | nuke the line, nvm :) |
| 08:26.11 | babilen | CableNinja: Do you have bacula-common installed? |
| 08:26.23 | CableNinja | it appears to be |
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| 08:27.12 | babilen | CableNinja: Could you check if /usr/share/bacula-common/common-functions.init is there? |
| 08:27.26 | CableNinja | it is, I looked in there and saw no function named create_var_run_dir |
| 08:27.39 | CableNinja | theres other stuff in there |
| 08:28.01 | babilen | CableNinja: The function is defined in there (at least in the wheezy package ... let me check the backported one) |
| 08:28.19 | babilen | CableNinja: And why don't you share such important information with me? |
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| 08:28.27 | CableNinja | what do you mean? |
| 08:28.40 | babilen | I mean I have to make this up on the spot ... Please tell me if you checked/investigated something else |
| 08:28.46 | CableNinja | <CableNinja> theres no such function in the lsb-functions or baculas common functions script |
| 08:28.47 | CableNinja | ^ |
| 08:28.50 | CableNinja | I said it already |
| 08:29.08 | babilen | CableNinja: yes, after I asked. :) |
| 08:29.12 | CableNinja | no |
| 08:29.15 | CableNinja | before you asked |
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| 08:30.17 | babilen | Not possible because you use a deictic reference that could not be understood if I hadn't referenced /usr/share/bacula-common/common-functions.init before. Either way, lets continue. |
| 08:30.25 | CableNinja | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/247777/ |
| 08:30.33 | CableNinja | indeed, lets |
| 08:31.05 | CableNinja | I commented out that function all in the init, everything is now fine :) |
| 08:31.07 | babilen | ack |
| 08:31.08 | babilen | :) |
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| 08:31.32 | CableNinja | successfully purged after apt-get -f install |
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| 08:31.50 | babilen | I wouldn't necessarily think that all is fine .. I mean you can clearly run the script now, but that function should be there. The fact that it is not is indicative of a serious problem |
| 08:32.32 | hebrewhammer | does anyone here speak hebrew? |
| 08:33.12 | CableNinja | babilen: yeah, I'm unsure what happened, but maybe you can pull something of an idea from the history of what happend here... (explaining..) |
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| 08:33.50 | babilen | CableNinja: I would first like to take a look at the current package on backports, but pray continue |
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| 08:36.46 | babilen | CableNinja: The function is, in fact, in bacula-common_5.2.6+dfsg-8~bpo60+1_amd64.deb -- Would you mind checking your package? You should be able to find it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and you can unpack it with "dpkg -x bacula-common*.deb /where/to/unpack" (it uses /where/to/unpack as / ...) -- You can then check /where/to/unpack/usr/share/bacula-common/common-functions.init |
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| 08:37.45 | babilen | ah, should have checked the i386 package, but still ... mind taking a look? |
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| 08:38.14 | babilen | and sorry for earlier grumpiness .. I see the error of my ways and have already brewed another coffee :) |
| 08:38.15 | CableNinja | babilen: ~2 years ago, I setup bacula, I used it until for about 4 months, then stopped using it, I've not done any apt-get update/upgrade in over a 8+ months, decided to do so tonight, ran into this nice error |
| 08:38.29 | babilen | okay |
| 08:38.32 | CableNinja | haha no worries, I'm short fused today too, dopey co-worker driving me nuts |
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| 08:41.01 | CableNinja | thats the -only- function in that one.. |
| 08:41.10 | CableNinja | I had an older version than what that one is afaik |
| 08:41.28 | CableNinja | it would've been 5.0.2-2.2+squeeze1 |
| 08:41.41 | CableNinja | which is not in my apt/archives |
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| 08:51.30 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
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| 08:58.00 | ectospasm | cousin_luigi: o/ |
| 08:58.04 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 08:58.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 08:59.24 | cousin_luigi | ectospasm: How's wheezy faring? |
| 08:59.43 | ectospasm | cousin_luigi: I dunno, I use sid (-; |
| 08:59.49 | cousin_luigi | I see. |
| 08:59.57 | ectospasm | ...but wheezy is still frozen |
| 09:00.15 | ectospasm | some estimates have it releasing within the next few months. |
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| 09:00.43 | cousin_luigi | I see. Do you see likely for it to arrive within the summer? |
| 09:01.14 | ectospasm | I couldn't tell you, as I'm not a developer. Supposedly it will be fixed when the RC bug list drops to zero |
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| 09:01.38 | ectospasm | ...but what remains are hard problems, so I hear |
| 09:01.58 | babilen | CableNinja: yes, very soon |
| 09:02.11 | cousin_luigi | oh |
| 09:02.13 | babilen | dpkg: rc bugs |
| 09:02.14 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are Debian bugs with critical, grave or serious severities, preventing the next release of Debian. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ or the lists at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&rc=1 . See also <rc-alert>. |
| 09:03.01 | babilen | And as we knew for a couple of months now: #645713 will be a pain in the arse |
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| 09:03.27 | CableNinja | babilen: what? |
| 09:03.48 | cousin_luigi | what about it? |
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| 09:22.29 | Agiofws | hello |
| 09:22.49 | Agiofws | someone tell me why my /etc/X11 HAS no xorg.conf file in it please ? |
| 09:23.06 | Agiofws | Reading state information... Done |
| 09:23.06 | Agiofws | xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version. |
| 09:23.06 | Agiofws | xserver-xorg-video-intel set to manually installed. |
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| 09:23.54 | Agiofws | anyone ? |
| 09:24.00 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell Agiofws -about xorg.conf |
| 09:25.29 | Agiofws | ectospasm, a friend is trying to add a special option so the the wacom tablet has no distortion where do you set it ? |
| 09:26.40 | ectospasm | I couldn't tell you. There's nothing stopping you from defining xorg.conf. I know e.g. the proprietary nVidia tools will write an xorg.conf for you... you can use that as a basis and add the input stuff you need. |
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| 09:27.27 | ectospasm | Agiofws: or, you could run Xorg -configure |
| 09:27.35 | ectospasm | ...that should give you a baseline. |
| 09:27.43 | ectospasm | then you can add your Wacom stuff to it. |
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| 09:39.58 | Agiofws | ectospasm, why is it writing the file to Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" and not to /etc/X11 |
| 09:40.12 | Agiofws | vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver |
| 09:40.13 | Agiofws | Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. |
| 09:40.13 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:40.13 | Agiofws | Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file. |
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| 09:41.12 | ectospasm | Agiofws: the expectation is you'll move it into place. But I can't really help beyond what I've already done. |
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| 09:43.22 | ziyourenxiang | hi all. i last used postgres when it was 7.4. now trying 9.2 on a debian 6. after installing via apt-get, i see /var/lib/postgresql/9.2/main/. does this mean that initdb has been done by the installer and "main" is the cluster that was initialized? |
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| 09:47.21 | cousin_luigi | bbl |
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| 10:03.46 | dokma | where is the syntax for dom, mon, dow in crontab documented? |
| 10:03.58 | dokma | I don't find anything about it in man crontab |
| 10:04.00 | dokma | or man cron |
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| 10:06.05 | ectospasm | dokma: man 5 crontab |
| 10:06.27 | dokma | thank you... |
| 10:06.55 | subthalamus | I saw that using deb-multimedia was/is? discouraged because it can cause instability due to "unsanctioned" replacement of libraries |
| 10:07.13 | ectospasm | subthalamus: correct |
| 10:07.19 | subthalamus | what is the recommended way to get the types of packages hosted there? |
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| 10:07.59 | ectospasm | subthalamus: see if they're in backports (if you're using squeeze), or maybe check them out of experimental. |
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| 10:10.27 | subthalamus | ectospasm: thanks for your replies, I think I'm already using backports (deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports testing) |
| 10:10.29 | Zeeflo | subthalamus, # multimedia :) |
| 10:10.30 | Zeeflo | deb http://mirror.hro.nl/deb-multimedia/ unstable main |
| 10:10.30 | Zeeflo | deb-src http://mirror.hro.nl/deb-multimedia/ unstable main |
| 10:10.39 | Zeeflo | if using wheezy |
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| 10:11.22 | subthalamus | Zeeflo: is that just a copy of the repo I spoke about? |
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| 10:11.24 | ectospasm | Zeeflo: that isn't recommended, because it can break dependencies, and d-m isn't as well tested as the rest of Debian. |
| 10:11.31 | Zeeflo | if squeeze replace unstable with stable |
| 10:11.41 | Zeeflo | well.. It hasnt broken any of my deps |
| 10:11.54 | Zeeflo | but of course, ive only used it for mencoder and mplayer |
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| 10:12.20 | Zeeflo | subthalamus, yes, its a copy |
| 10:12.32 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell subthalamus -about debian-multimedia |
| 10:12.46 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell Zeeflo -about debian-multimedia |
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| 10:13.03 | Zeeflo | why do you think I need to know about deb mm ? |
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| 10:13.20 | ectospasm | to read why not dmm |
| 10:13.29 | Zeeflo | i know why not to dmm |
| 10:14.02 | Zeeflo | like any other person, its a conscious choice to risk broken deps when using it |
| 10:14.03 | ectospasm | the poor quality package threat keeps me from using it, though I have in the past. |
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| 10:14.46 | subthalamus | I've used it in the past but after reading the library squashing story I was hoping somebody in here had better ideas |
| 10:14.56 | Zeeflo | unfortunately, in the debian reps, things can take years to become stable and "tested" enough to suit standards.. |
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| 10:15.29 | Zeeflo | subthalamus, perhaps ubuntu is for you if you want a multimedia repository thats stable? |
| 10:15.35 | Zeeflo | if you need it for alot of things! |
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| 10:16.35 | subthalamus | Zeeflo: even ubuntu has weird things about this type of stuff |
| 10:16.58 | Zeeflo | well.. then using mirror.bro.nl is as good as any.. |
| 10:16.59 | subthalamus | fore example, u have to run a script to instlal css |
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| 10:23.41 | dpkg | b43 is a driver supporting PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN devices with Broadcom chips, part of the Linux kernel. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. For BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) device support, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:20.38 | Stameni | hello, can i somehow make a sturtup script ( a lina of bash code that will run on startup ) ? |
| 11:20.57 | nkuttler | Stameni: see /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 11:21.17 | Stameni | nkuttler, I`ll have a look, tnx |
| 11:23.09 | Stameni | nkuttler, so can i simply append a line to the end of that file ? |
| 11:23.29 | nkuttler | Stameni: hm? no, that's a template |
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| 11:23.50 | nkuttler | !tell Stameni about rc.local |
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| 11:26.55 | xand | Stameni: is it to run as root or not? you could consider using a crontab entry with @reboot |
| 11:27.08 | xand | depends what your command does |
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| 11:29.08 | Stameni | here is a thing, whenever i turn on my computer, debian starts in 800x600 resolution. So I have to ctrl+t ( bring up the terminal ) and eneter "sudo xrandr 1920x1080". So i just wont to put that line somewhere to execute automatticly upon startup |
| 11:29.46 | Stameni | want |
| 11:30.02 | Unni | how do I change the install directory of a package.? .I try to use dpkg with --instdir option but it could't helped me. |
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| 11:30.26 | ectospasm | Stameni: it depends on your DE... you may get away with it in .xinitrc, others will be DE-specific |
| 11:30.27 | xand | Stameni: er, ok, well there's probably better ways of fixing that issue |
| 11:31.16 | Stameni | xand, maby but this is faster if there is a simple way to just enter that line in some file that execute on startup |
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| 11:36.52 | Natanaiel | does cgroups exists in debian as a default feature? |
| 11:37.58 | Unni | does apt-get have any option to change the install directory.? |
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| 11:42.05 | subthalamus | Stameni: which display and window managers are u using? |
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| 11:44.31 | alex55689 | Hi all |
| 11:44.44 | xand | Unni: that's kinda defeat the point of package management |
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| 11:46.46 | dokma | do I add vga=0x0324 directly in grub.cfg or is there some more debian way? |
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| 11:47.32 | ectospasm | dokma: probably on the linux line in /etc/grub.d/10_linux |
| 11:47.38 | stmaher | Hi guys, need urgent help |
| 11:47.45 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 11:47.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:47.46 | stmaher | i installed a new raid array and multipath tools |
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| 11:48.10 | stmaher | and I cannot mount a disk that was previously there before i installed the array |
| 11:48.17 | ectospasm | stmaher: don't use Enter as punctuation. |
| 11:48.31 | stmaher | ectospasm thank will try |
| 11:48.41 | dokma | ectospasm: and then run update-grub2 to have it automatically generate the proper grub.cfg? |
| 11:48.55 | ectospasm | dokma: correct |
| 11:49.22 | stmaher | I have a dell poweredge with onboard disks as well as a new SAS storage array.. I installed multipath tools and put the controller in today.. it says its already mounted.. |
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| 11:50.46 | stmaher | http://pastebin.com/WHd4C7j2 |
| 11:50.58 | stmaher | sorry http://pastebin.com/WHd4C7j2 shows some debug |
| 11:51.14 | boudiccas | !pastebin |
| 11:51.14 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 11:52.11 | stmaher | sorry guys i didnt mean to paste twice.. accidentle click.. just in desperate need of help |
| 11:52.14 | dokma | ectospasm: thank you! rebooting! |
| 11:52.52 | omid8bimo | hello, whats the meaning of this http://paste.debian.net/247806/ ? and what could cause it |
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| 11:53.34 | Natanaiel | does cgroups exists in debian as a default feature? |
| 11:53.43 | ectospasm | omid8bimo: looks like mysqld locked up or caused a kernel panic |
| 11:53.46 | xand | omid8bimo: looks like mysqld crashed due to an i/o timeout |
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| 11:55.20 | omid8bimo | ectospasm: xand: any thing i should check to make sure it wont happen again? my mysql stopped working at that time |
| 11:55.51 | ectospasm | omid8bimo: it only happened once? |
| 11:56.07 | omid8bimo | ectospasm: so far yes, |
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| 11:56.55 | ectospasm | do you know if mysqld dumped core (any core.* files in /tmp)? |
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| 12:00.54 | omid8bimo | ectospasm: yeah, there is not core dumps |
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| 12:03.28 | carlisle_ | hi, i'm trying to setup a preseed configuration file, and the install keeps stalling during the partman setup. When partman gets to the last partition in the list it just stalls and doesn't come back. Here's what the configuration looks like: http://pastebin.com/6CWHL5Mt |
| 12:03.50 | stmaher | I think I know whats happened.. I wonder if the multipath driver is taken over /dev/sdb1 before fstab gets a chance to mount it.. Is there a way to stop the multipath driver from picking up /dev/sdb1 ? |
| 12:04.22 | stmaher | I think the blacklist only works with the multipath software which is loaded after fstab right? |
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| 12:09.15 | SYN4PS3 | after installing firmware-brcm80211 and wireless-tools, the bluetooth device disappeared. |
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| 12:14.07 | Natanaiel | does cgroups exists in debian as a default feature? |
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| 12:36.01 | spartaco | hello |
| 12:36.06 | spartaco | !lista |
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| 12:37.23 | Towzzer | hey there |
| 12:37.26 | Towzzer | oh |
| 12:37.36 | angry_oldMan | lol |
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| 12:52.07 | SYN4PS3 | after installing firmware-brcm80211 and wireless-tools, the bluetooth device disappeared, no bluetooth shown in rfkill list, even the bluetoothd running and the module is inside the kernel. |
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| 13:02.32 | nullby7e | for cifs mounting what i need for windows (services, etc.) ? |
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| 13:02.49 | Towzzer | it's for mounting windows shares |
| 13:03.14 | bezaban | Does anyone know if I can bind courier-imap to multiple ip addresses, but not all ip addresses? Would I have to run multiple instances? |
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| 13:04.19 | Towzzer | yes you can |
| 13:04.46 | Towzzer | according to the courier manual - couriertcpd -pid=/var/run/smtp.pid 127.0.0.1.25,127.0.0.1.999 |
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| 13:04.49 | Towzzer | as an example |
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| 13:07.22 | bezaban | Towzzer: ah, at launch, will give that a try, will have a look at the init scripts, doesn't seem to be possible in config |
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| 13:09.38 | bezaban | and no /etc/default |
| 13:10.11 | bezaban | that does just take the ADDRESS variable though |
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| 13:15.19 | bezaban | Towzzer: fails to start. It should be noted that one is an IPV6 address though |
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| 13:20.03 | jpinx | tensorpudding: what release are you running now ? |
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| 13:20.09 | bezaban | also tried doubling the :'s like you need to do in exim |
| 13:20.39 | bezaban | might have to move to dovecot then |
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| 13:21.24 | tensorpudding | jpinx: of what |
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| 13:21.35 | jpinx | tensorpudding: debian |
| 13:21.59 | tensorpudding | my question in -offtopic was related to migrating to debian, that machine doesn't have debian now |
| 13:22.24 | apm1 | he wants to go *buntu -> debian |
| 13:22.37 | jpinx | tensorpudding: you could try running debian in a vm to try out the packages |
| 13:22.40 | tensorpudding | and i'm not asking that in this channel so don't go all pre-emptive |
| 13:22.46 | tensorpudding | with your ubuntu-hate |
| 13:23.08 | apm1 | spares tensorpudding just this once :p |
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| 13:23.54 | jpinx | tensorpudding: you're welcome to ask about how to install, etc debian |
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| 13:24.14 | abrotman | tensorpudding: you can use debootstrap, but it's effectively a re-install |
| 13:24.17 | tensorpudding | i'm running debian on *another* machine right now, so I know a bit |
| 13:24.22 | jpinx | tensorpudding: but a vm would allow you to test and break it without drama |
| 13:24.33 | tensorpudding | used debian for years |
| 13:24.53 | tensorpudding | i guess a vm might be worth trying, i forgot i could do that |
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| 13:25.55 | mosschops | Hi |
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| 13:26.23 | tensorpudding | it introduces an arch discrepancy, but i don't think it'll be a problem |
| 13:26.42 | mosschops | Can anyone here build .deb packages? |
| 13:26.59 | abrotman | lots of people |
| 13:27.02 | apm1 | 75% of us can |
| 13:27.09 | jpinx | tensorpudding: I got the impression you just wanted to look for package dependencies etc from 3rdparty repos |
| 13:27.09 | mosschops | excellent |
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| 13:27.28 | mosschops | i need this package in the deb repositorys too |
| 13:27.40 | nullby7e | how can i add i386 arch to amd64 |
| 13:27.55 | mosschops | Can someone help me pls? |
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| 13:27.57 | apm1 | !multilibs |
| 13:27.58 | abrotman | needs this package? |
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| 13:28.10 | abrotman | !tell apm1 about multiarch |
| 13:28.14 | mosschops | yeah for libbitcoin |
| 13:28.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mosschops about rfp |
| 13:28.27 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mosschops about nmg |
| 13:28.39 | tensorpudding | does the wheezy rc1 disk have gnome 3.2 |
| 13:28.51 | tensorpudding | err, 3.4, whichever version it was |
| 13:29.01 | jpinx | tensorpudding: netinstall might suit you better |
| 13:29.06 | apm1 | tensorpudding, if its a dvd image 1 then yes |
| 13:29.15 | nullby7e | dpkg: unknown option --add-architecture ? |
| 13:29.16 | dpkg | nullby7e: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 13:29.19 | apm1 | the first disk in the sets have gnome |
| 13:29.24 | tensorpudding | okay |
| 13:29.50 | tensorpudding | it's been a while since i installed debian with a de |
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| 13:30.36 | abrotman | tensorpudding: yes |
| 13:30.47 | nullby7e | how can i add i364 arch to amd64 i got on dpkg: unknown option --add-architecture. i am with squeeze? |
| 13:30.52 | jpinx | tensorpudding: netinstall doesn't need a de - you decide what you want later |
| 13:30.52 | abrotman | nullby7e: you're on squeeze |
| 13:31.06 | nullby7e | hm that is for wheezey |
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| 13:31.29 | tensorpudding | i know, but i'm going to be installing gnome regardless |
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| 13:31.57 | tensorpudding | my intent is to make the install as close to what i have now as possible |
| 13:32.04 | nullby7e | abrotman: how can i then to install i386 package on amd64 i know how with dpkg but what options? |
| 13:32.12 | tensorpudding | luckily 12.04 and wheezy seem to have nearly the same version of gnome |
| 13:32.20 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nullby7e about ia32-libs |
| 13:32.29 | nullby7e | tensorpudding: : what version of gnome? |
| 13:32.44 | tensorpudding | 3.4 |
| 13:32.45 | vehicle | Hello! I've started encountering issues with Debian Squeeze with backports kernel and am unable to figure it out by myself. Unable to handle kernel paging request, log is here: http://pastebin.com/kHzwkevd . I've tested memory modules and they appear fine as does hard drive |
| 13:33.01 | mosschops | Can i pay someone to assist with this package at all? |
| 13:33.11 | apm1 | pay ? |
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| 13:33.14 | apm1 | lol |
| 13:33.16 | abrotman | mosschops: debian.org/consultants/ |
| 13:33.41 | mosschops | ok cheers |
| 13:34.17 | abrotman | mosschops: not sure how up to date that is, you might have to contact a few people |
| 13:34.42 | mosschops | Can provide bitcoins if of interest |
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| 13:37.33 | jelly-home | mosschops: where's the upstream for your software? |
| 13:37.53 | mosschops | 1 sec |
| 13:38.05 | mosschops | https://github.com/spesmilo/libbitcoin/ |
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| 13:38.35 | bezaban | Towzzer: got it working, you pointed me in the right direction. Oddly enough it needs to be specified in the PORT variable and not the ADDRESS one |
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| 13:39.08 | bezaban | so thanks :) |
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| 13:40.09 | jelly-home | mosschops: oh, it's got more unpackaged dependencies like cppcms/cppdb |
| 13:40.27 | mosschops | ah yeah - can it be done? |
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| 13:41.44 | jelly-home | ANYTHING can be done with software, the amount of work may vary though |
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| 13:42.40 | mosschops | thank you jelly-home, would you be able to help further by chance? |
| 13:42.47 | xand | anything? |
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| 13:43.36 | jelly-home | mosschops: nope, got other priorities. Just wanted to see if it's trivial or not... it's not ;-) |
| 13:44.26 | mosschops | oh, well thanks anyway |
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| 13:46.47 | deed02392 | hi guys I've got a web app and google apps, I'd like to configure my server so that whatever system PHP's mail() function is using then gets Google to send the e-mail rather than sending it from the web server directly - how can I go about this? |
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| 13:47.09 | deed02392 | i'm on debian 6 |
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| 13:52.43 | tensorpudding | does icedove use the same configuration directory as thunderbird |
| 13:52.53 | tensorpudding | and how can i get version 17 of that program in wheezy? |
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| 13:55.17 | MO_Handes | opt seems to be not included in directory structure anymore (wheezy) or should I make it? |
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| 13:55.45 | MO_Handes | and what is a good place for manually downloaded packages like xampp.tar.gz ?! |
| 13:56.22 | epsilon | opt should be still there in wheezy |
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| 13:57.48 | tensorpudding | anyone know about icedove? |
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| 13:58.25 | MO_Handes | opt seems to be not included in directory structure anymore (wheezy) or should I make it? |
| 13:58.34 | MO_Handes | and what is a good place for manually downloaded packages like xampp.tar.gz ?! |
| 13:59.03 | epsilon | are stuck in time loop? |
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| 14:02.22 | tensorpudding | also, what is the debian equivalent of ubuntu broadcom sta wifi driver? |
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| 14:03.21 | tensorpudding | i think it's called wl |
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| 14:08.08 | mosschops | jelly-home: Can you advise who might be able to help with this libbitcoin packege? |
| 14:08.12 | tensorpudding | oh, apparently b43 is able to support it too |
| 14:08.38 | tensorpudding | according to the kernel wifi drivers page |
| 14:09.10 | tensorpudding | b43 is included in the debian kernel right? |
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| 14:14.26 | BOY77X | http://www.reddit.com/r/amateurandpornstar/comments/1bqczi/hot_amateur_and_pornstar_gif_pictures_and_movie/ |
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| 14:23.07 | ghost75 | petn-randall: i now managed to move the machine |
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| 14:23.21 | suppy | in virtualbox, can i take a snapshot of debian guest and copy the entire content of the root directory ? |
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| 14:30.02 | schwatvogel | why would you want to do that? |
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| 14:32.44 | schwatvogel | hmm |
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| 14:32.50 | samba35 | hmmmmmmm |
| 14:32.54 | schwatvogel | :) |
| 14:32.58 | samba35 | need to change passwd |
| 14:32.59 | schwatvogel | better be quick |
| 14:33.15 | samba35 | any idea how to change passwd |
| 14:33.32 | suppy | schwatvogel: was that to me ? :) |
| 14:33.42 | nkuttler | samba35: ask in #freenode |
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| 14:34.00 | nkuttler | samba35: and configure your client to auth automatically |
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| 14:34.09 | SYN4PS3 | after installing firmware-brcm80211 and wireless-tools, the bluetooth device disappeared, no bluetooth shown in rfkill list, even the bluetoothd running and the module is inside the kernel. |
| 14:34.23 | schwatvogel | suppy: yes |
| 14:34.30 | suppy | i'm trying to copy the content of the root directory of a liveCD. it changes in runtine but lost when PC turned off. |
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| 14:35.04 | suppy | if i can grab it, i can modify and rebuild the liveCD |
| 14:35.05 | schwatvogel | well, why do you have a virtual box system running a live cd? |
| 14:35.07 | samba35 | nkuttler, which client i should use ,i use xchat ,does xchat provide auto login |
| 14:35.11 | schwatvogel | ah |
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| 14:35.34 | schwatvogel | suppy: you can just copy it with scp for example |
| 14:35.36 | schwatvogel | or rsync |
| 14:35.43 | Towzzer | cp -a :D |
| 14:35.58 | schwatvogel | would be no point on a live system |
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| 14:36.20 | schwatvogel | but copy it on your host system or anything |
| 14:36.28 | suppy | ok rsync is cool, i was just testing it, /proc/ folder looks huge when i check the properties of the folder. 140TB :) |
| 14:36.41 | zykotick9 | suppy: you're going to find out modifying a livecd isn't just copy and modify... |
| 14:36.41 | schwatvogel | ahm |
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| 14:36.52 | schwatvogel | yeah that to |
| 14:36.57 | schwatvogel | s/to/too/ |
| 14:37.03 | suppy | i need to copy the liveCD after i install some programs into it. when i install a program do you think /proc/ is modified ? |
| 14:37.10 | schwatvogel | ahm |
| 14:37.24 | schwatvogel | perhaps you should read some linux basics before trying that |
| 14:37.45 | schwatvogel | proc is no ordinary filesystem which can be copied or modified |
| 14:38.00 | schwatvogel | and it has lots of recursive links |
| 14:38.10 | suppy | zykotick9: if i can get the state of the liveCD, i know how to replace the squashfs file with the root folders of new liveCD |
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| 14:38.57 | schwatvogel | suppy: but anyway.. why would you want to modify the live cd? 1~ |
| 14:39.07 | suppy | for example, when i changed the keyboard, a file was modified, i copied that file into new liveCD and it works great |
| 14:39.08 | zykotick9 | suppy: no idea... i'm not a fan of livecd/usb - i see little use besides recovery. good luck. |
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| 14:39.26 | schwatvogel | there are lots of very complete livecds to download |
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| 14:39.37 | suppy | schwatvogel: some packages not installed , and i dont wanna do it each time i boot it. |
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| 14:40.01 | HelenaKitty | er... I open up qjackctl and see that other things are able to connect to each other but ncmpcpp isn't showing like jack isn't detecting it. I know this is a problem with ncmpcpp and I followed the wiki on how to configure but that didn't help. Jack is also I use, I don't use any other sound servers. |
| 14:40.06 | schwatvogel | ok, if you like. i see it like zykotick9 |
| 14:40.14 | suppy | schwatvogel: it has to be customized :) |
| 14:40.35 | schwatvogel | cant find any use for livecds/usbs except recovery jobs |
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| 14:40.55 | suppy | i just wanna know if /proc/ folder is affected when a program is installed |
| 14:41.03 | schwatvogel | mostly not |
| 14:41.08 | schwatvogel | and as i said |
| 14:41.14 | schwatvogel | its no ardinary filesystem |
| 14:41.18 | schwatvogel | ordinary |
| 14:41.51 | schwatvogel | suppy: have a short look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs |
| 14:42.07 | nkuttler | samba35: no idea about xchat, i use irssi |
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| 14:42.10 | suppy | k thnx |
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| 14:42.51 | tensorpudding | so is there a third-party repo to install thunderbird on debian? |
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| 14:44.10 | Happzz | so i have a binary file, chmodded +x, etc'. ./file won't work, it says it's not found. |
| 14:44.22 | schwatvogel | HelenaKitty: tried #mpd already? |
| 14:44.33 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: Icedove is Thunderbird for Debian: http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 14:44.40 | tensorpudding | i know that |
| 14:44.45 | tensorpudding | i need version 17 |
| 14:44.53 | Towzzer | happzz, are you typing ../? |
| 14:44.58 | HelenaKitty | schwatvogel: Yea |
| 14:44.58 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: on Squeeze? |
| 14:45.01 | Towzzer | that's the parent directory sir |
| 14:45.01 | HelenaKitty | I asked in there too |
| 14:45.06 | tensorpudding | no, it's going to be on wheezy |
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| 14:45.17 | tensorpudding | i'm planning my install |
| 14:45.33 | tensorpudding | i want to transfer my settings from my current ubuntu install (which uses thunderbird 17) |
| 14:45.37 | schwatvogel | HelenaKitty: you'll have better chances for an answer there |
| 14:45.43 | Happzz | Towzzer nope: ./file |
| 14:45.46 | HelenaKitty | okies |
| 14:46.06 | schwatvogel | (i only use ncmpc...) |
| 14:46.33 | tensorpudding | basically i want to have it just work; i don't *think* i need any 17 features, but i am thinking that using a 17 config with icedove 10 isn't going to fly |
| 14:46.35 | schwatvogel | and a strange iphnone app, which is not very reliable |
| 14:46.41 | Towzzer | happzz can you try this - echo "echo 'test' " > test2;chmod 700 test2;./test2 |
| 14:47.27 | Happzz | http://pastebin.com/sVVPfMQt |
| 14:47.40 | Happzz | $ echo "echo 'test' " > test2;chmod 700 test2;./test2 |
| 14:47.40 | Happzz | test |
| 14:47.43 | zykotick9 | schwatvogel: fyi, #mpd REALLY don't like the debian packages :( the general concensus there seems to be, it should be removed from debian |
| 14:47.54 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: i don't think you'll get it better than icedove 17 on repo experimental |
| 14:48.05 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/icedove |
| 14:48.08 | Towzzer | happzz, can you show me ls -lh w |
| 14:48.27 | Happzz | -rwxr-xr-x 1 void void 1.5M Feb 28 21:01 w |
| 14:48.28 | tensorpudding | i don't see how you'd get experimental packages in stable/testing |
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| 14:49.06 | tensorpudding | wouldn't you run into version problems with libraries and such |
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| 14:49.21 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: in testing as shown on the first link i showed you |
| 14:49.58 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: and i don't think it's possible for stable |
| 14:50.13 | tensorpudding | the mozilla.debian.net one? |
| 14:50.18 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: yes |
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| 14:50.54 | tensorpudding | that one doesn't have anything close to version 17 on it... |
| 14:51.03 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: haven't tried it lately, but it worked the last time |
| 14:51.10 | tensorpudding | it has 3.6 (which is ancient) and "esr", whatever that means |
| 14:51.36 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: see the drop-downs |
| 14:51.38 | tensorpudding | if that's the sid version, it's still too old |
| 14:51.51 | alfplayer | experimental, not sid |
| 14:52.30 | tensorpudding | it says "unstable" |
| 14:52.52 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: so? |
| 14:53.18 | tensorpudding | unstable = "sid", doesn't it? |
| 14:53.32 | boudiccas | ESR is erythrocyte sedimentation rate |
| 14:53.39 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: and right next to it: wheezy - testing |
| 14:54.12 | alfplayer | ESR is the long term release |
| 14:54.14 | boudiccas | its a test done in blood workups to see how healthy you are |
| 14:54.26 | tensorpudding | is that 17? |
| 14:54.43 | alfplayer | tensorpudding: yes, as I showed you on the second link |
| 14:55.20 | tensorpudding | if i add a sid repository for this, will it automatically try to upgrade my packages to sid when i do upgrades? |
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| 14:55.43 | boudiccas | not if you comjment sid out again |
| 14:55.44 | alfplayer | how's this related to sid? |
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| 14:56.46 | tensorpudding | because the instructions that you told me--esr for wheezy--say to add an "unstable" entry to my sources.list |
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| 14:57.33 | Happzz | soooo |
| 14:57.35 | Happzz | http://pastebin.com/sVVPfMQt anyone? |
| 14:57.36 | alfplayer | no, it doesn't |
| 14:57.54 | tensorpudding | do you want me to screenshot it... |
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| 14:58.37 | zykotick9 | alfplayer: m.d.n does say add "deb http.... unstable" as tensorpudding is claiming. |
| 14:58.50 | SYN4PS3 | after installing firmware-brcm80211 and wireless-tools, the bluetooth device disappeared, no bluetooth shown in rfkill list, even the bluetoothd running and the module is inside the kernel. |
| 14:59.34 | alfplayer | zykotick9: right, it doesn't for iceweasel, which i was showing. Thanks. |
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| 15:00.13 | AFlyingMonkey | is there any reason a binary compiled for linux wouldnt work on debian?? |
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| 15:00.40 | epsilon | yes many |
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| 15:01.22 | zykotick9 | AFlyingMonkey: i don't think a binary can be compiled for linux the kernel, unless it's a kernel module perhaps? |
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| 15:02.08 | AFlyingMonkey | so I must compile the binary for debian |
| 15:02.21 | AFlyingMonkey | on or via crosscompilation? |
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| 15:04.40 | sKeiths | I have a package that says 'dependency is not satisfiable hermes1 (>= 1.3.2-5)' the package is for lenny and i am using wheezy. the package includes sources. Is this because of lenny wheezy incompatibility? |
| 15:05.27 | schwatvogel | zykotick9: why that? |
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| 15:05.34 | AFlyingMonkey | zykotick9: debian is not supported by the language im writing in atm, however one of hte compilation options is for linux |
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| 15:05.45 | AFlyingMonkey | well "linux" |
| 15:05.47 | witchdoc | hi all |
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| 15:06.58 | zykotick9 | AFlyingMonkey: you could try it and see then... but i doubt it will work - maybe? |
| 15:07.15 | witchdoc | i have problems with ext4 and the disc usage that df -h shows. that differs with more than 200gb from the real usage |
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| 15:08.20 | nullby7e | d |
| 15:08.23 | zykotick9 | witchdoc: take off the -h, are the numbers closer to what you expect then? |
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| 15:09.22 | witchdoc | zykotick9: no. it allways used 62% of 455gb but i use only ~66gb |
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| 15:10.19 | zykotick9 | witchdoc: try installing ncdu and see where the space is used |
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| 15:11.54 | witchdoc | zykotick9: yeah but "normal" du on all folders of / should show me the usage of the system, isnt it? |
| 15:12.18 | zykotick9 | witchdoc: yes, but you're obviously not taking something into account. |
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| 15:12.56 | zykotick9 | witchdoc: from / try "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" |
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| 15:16.14 | witchdoc | zykotick9: hmm. shows the same as my try before. take a look http://dpaste.de/IfnkT/ |
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| 15:16.56 | CBITS-TECH | I think I had an error in limits.conf though I think I fixed that part no users can spawn a shell. When I connect ssh it logs in then closes the session. Any ideas? |
| 15:18.43 | zykotick9 | witchdoc: ya, i see your point. sorry i got no suggestions at this point. good luck. |
| 15:19.04 | witchdoc | zykotick9: hmm. okay. try to google something |
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| 15:22.00 | HelenaKitty | I want an estimate of how long it would take to backup 110GB with dd on a 1.60GHz atom processor. |
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| 15:22.46 | Towzzer | helenakitty, the disk speed would be most important |
| 15:22.56 | HelenaKitty | oh |
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| 15:22.57 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
| 15:22.59 | HelenaKitty | Towzzer: idk that |
| 15:23.14 | HelenaKitty | Towzzer: How do I find out the RPM without looking on the drive? |
| 15:23.29 | HelenaKitty | also... |
| 15:23.35 | HelenaKitty | my sound wont work |
| 15:23.41 | Towzzer | I don't know anything about sound |
| 15:23.49 | HelenaKitty | sorry |
| 15:23.52 | HelenaKitty | I'm pissed off |
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| 15:24.03 | Towzzer | why not try a dd with a small amount to see how fast it is |
| 15:24.44 | HelenaKitty | Towzzer: Because I don't have any storage space. |
| 15:25.14 | HelenaKitty | brb reboot |
| 15:25.28 | jham | wouldn't hdparm be a possibility to get approx. speed? |
| 15:26.51 | jham | like hdparm -tT --direct /dev/sdX |
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| 15:28.33 | jham | ah, it's just reading speed... |
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| 15:28.47 | Deele | hello |
| 15:29.09 | Deele | could someone help me with aptitude complaining about apache2 ? http://pastie.org/7341116 |
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| 15:32.00 | x10 | or dd into /dev/null |
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| 15:33.27 | bitHipy | is debian.org blocking bug reports from anonymous users now? |
| 15:33.59 | zykotick9 | Deele: you might want to try "apt-get -f install", but i imagine it'll be the same. good luck. |
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| 15:34.27 | Deele | zykotick9: tried it, it is the same |
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| 15:36.28 | zykotick9 | Deele: are you only using debian squeeze repo, or did you add something else (like dotdeb)? |
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| 15:39.20 | Deele | zykotick9: no, only basic |
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| 15:45.15 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: I would suggest removing whatever csvn-httpd is. |
| 15:45.27 | Deele | jhutchins_wk: I just removed apache and tried reinstalling it http://pastie.org/7341654 |
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| 15:46.53 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: ...and you still have the exact same problem at lines 29 & 30, which is why I suggest you remove whatever is causng that. |
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| 15:47.25 | Deele | jhutchins_wk: how to find out cause? those K01csvn-httpd and csvn-httpd are not found as packages |
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| 15:47.37 | Deele | jhutchins_wk: aptitude remove csvn-httpd returns not found |
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| 15:48.40 | jhutchins_wk | Those would be init scripts, and you should be able to find out what package they're from from dpkg. |
| 15:48.55 | jhutchins_wk | Apache is known to install and run on normal squeeze systems. |
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| 15:49.58 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions xfce4 |
| 15:49.59 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; sid: 4.8.0.3; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; experimental: 4.10.0 |
| 15:50.00 | acu | hey guys - I encounter a weird situation in here - I have just installed wheezy amd64 in a box with two nics - I configured the nics to work as bridges (eth0 = BrWAN and eth1 brLAN) however it does not work, some message - I even copy paste the configuration I have with another machine and change the IPs - but the new wheezy cannot bring up the bridges |
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| 15:51.16 | dutchfish | acu, are the adapters up with dhcp or fixed adresses? |
| 15:52.18 | Deele | jhutchins_wk: can you suggest something more specific? |
| 15:52.47 | ghost75 | whats the benefit using bridge here? |
| 15:53.27 | acu | dutchfish: one dhcp and one static - but neither of the bridge can be brought up |
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| 15:54.18 | bezaban | does bridging need net.ipv4.conf.<interface>.forwarding = 1 ? |
| 15:54.19 | dutchfish | acu, try both static, i have seen a bug in isc dhcp, that messes up th ebridge setup i had |
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| 15:54.49 | dutchfish | acu, basically the bridge bind |
| 15:54.51 | acu | dutchfish: OK, I will try, I even do not mind if one at least works |
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| 15:55.12 | bezaban | listen to someone who actually does bridging, I route in my multi-nic machines :) |
| 15:55.18 | dutchfish | acu, if not, pastebin your setup and route to invest further |
| 15:55.29 | acu | weird though, because I have another wheezy machine that works, |
| 15:55.33 | acu | I will do that |
| 15:55.40 | dutchfish | gl |
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| 15:59.38 | boudiccas | how do i change my password please from the cli, i've never doneit before |
| 15:59.59 | acu | change passwd |
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| 16:00.28 | acu | you type passwd |
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| 16:00.34 | Quest | can anyone tell why in iptraf in port 80 (breakdown by ports) the "in" is always zero and the "out" at bottom shows speed stats for download and for upload as well. on other strange thing. its showing download and upload . both speeds in "out" and "in" in is 0 .. ? |
| 16:00.36 | boudiccas | command not found |
| 16:00.40 | acu | if you are the user you want to change - whoami |
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| 16:01.02 | acu | passwd boudiccas |
| 16:01.43 | Towzzer | Quest, you connect to servers on port but your outgoing is on a different port |
| 16:01.55 | Towzzer | called the ephermal port |
| 16:01.59 | Quest | iam on local host |
| 16:02.04 | Towzzer | same thing |
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| 16:02.14 | Towzzer | oh |
| 16:02.26 | Towzzer | right, I see, you should see transfers in on port 80 as well |
| 16:02.31 | Towzzer | because the server is local |
| 16:02.33 | boudiccas | wont accept it, too similar to old one, butr tea cooked now so i'll investigate it after tea |
| 16:02.50 | Quest | even if its vice versa. then "in" should show upload and "out" should show downloads. but "in" is alwasy zero |
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| 16:03.44 | sKeiths | Hi, I have file orig.tar.gz and .diff and .dsc. How can I comile the latest patched version from these files. http://paste.debian.net/247871/ |
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| 16:09.31 | packetfrog | why would I wake up to my fresh install of wheezy that I left downloading updates crashed saying something about Board protection and running my laptops fan at full speed? |
| 16:09.53 | Towzzer | overheating? |
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| 16:10.57 | acu | dutchfish, it is most weird eth0 is not configured in /etc/network/interfaces I just added the br0 to be used for eth1 (which is a WAN connection) hoever if I do ifup br0 it tells me cannot find device br0 failed to bring up br0 |
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| 16:11.03 | packetfrog | ive never had any os overheat on this laptop even playing games set so high it should melt ;/ |
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| 16:11.17 | acu | is anything in the latest wheezy different ? |
| 16:11.30 | dutchfish | acu, can you pastebin your config and route? |
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| 16:12.16 | ripero | hi; is there any expected wheezy release day? I remember there was such a day for the squeeze release |
| 16:12.17 | acu | dutchfish the /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 16:12.28 | dutchfish | acu, yup |
| 16:12.52 | acu | and route -n ? |
| 16:13.19 | acu | eth1 is not even in route -n |
| 16:13.56 | ompaul | ripero: it will be ready when they say so and all release critical bugs have been removed |
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| 16:14.28 | Quest | Towzzer, so the "out" will show the upload and download combined? |
| 16:14.35 | acu | !paste |
| 16:14.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:14.42 | dutchfish | acu, ok, first compare your setup with http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Setting_up_your_Bridge if thats done, pastebin your config |
| 16:15.10 | ripero | ompaul: yes, that I know |
| 16:15.34 | ripero | but last time there was some sort of announcement that the release would happen a given day |
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| 16:16.26 | ripero | given that there are only ~30 bugs in wheezy which are not fixed in sid, this should be a matter of weeks, if not days |
| 16:16.39 | acu | dutchfish: I think I did not find the bridge-utils installed ! let me see duh :) |
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| 16:16.44 | ompaul | http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy_and_sid&patch=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&fnewerval=7&rc=1&sortby=id&sorto=asc&ctags=1&ctags=1&cdeferred=1 |
| 16:16.52 | ompaul | ripero: ^^ make that list zero |
| 16:16.55 | dutchfish | acu, ok, ouch |
| 16:17.22 | jeet | Hi, if I am a beginner to linux and I wish to get some c++ code that links to openCV libraries what should I do/read? |
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| 16:18.40 | acu | I thought I have 3 neurons left :) dutchfish if you are still around, standby - I will be back, I think that was my problem |
| 16:18.49 | ripero | ompaul: this I also know xd |
| 16:18.53 | dutchfish | acu, ok, np |
| 16:19.08 | ompaul | ripero: then why are you asking |
| 16:19.23 | ompaul | ripero: are you one of those whom we no longer mention? |
| 16:19.33 | ripero | ?? |
| 16:19.40 | ompaul | I'm afraid I have no more to contribute to that conversation |
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| 16:21.18 | ompaul | jeet: you install debian you run apt-get install build-essential ( to drag in a compiler and lots of useful stuff ) then you run apt-cache search opencv and install the stuff you want in debian packages |
| 16:21.35 | ompaul | !install |
| 16:21.35 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <various cd1>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 16:21.42 | ompaul | jeet: ^^ please read that stuff there |
| 16:21.50 | jeet | i did apt-get install libopencv-dev |
| 16:21.51 | jeet | i believe |
| 16:22.02 | jeet | i did apt-get update also |
| 16:22.04 | ompaul | jeet: apt-cache search opencv |
| 16:22.35 | jeet | apt-cache search opencv? |
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| 16:22.37 | jeet | what does that do? |
| 16:22.47 | jeet | do i need to do it since i already install libopencv-dev? |
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| 16:23.17 | ompaul | it tells you what packages contain opencv bits |
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| 16:24.44 | ompaul | jeet: as to how to use it no idea - that would be a matter for research around their own website, and the net, searches like opencv on debian returns this http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/InstallGuide%20%3A%20Debian I don't know how good that is check it against other stuff |
| 16:24.54 | ripero | ompaul: I don't have the time to squash bugs, nor the ability to work on most of them; I was just asking about a "release day" to plan some pending installs I have |
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| 16:26.24 | ompaul | ripero: no day announced and you said you know that it is only when the bugs reach zero ... you could be waiting a long time or a short time, one hopes a short time |
| 16:26.29 | jeet | alright apt-cache search opencv displays me the packages such as libopencv-gpu2.3 - computer vision GPU Processing library etc |
| 16:26.34 | ompaul | it is ready when it's ready |
| 16:26.44 | ompaul | jeet: so it might be good to install them |
| 16:27.05 | jeet | hmm i agree |
| 16:27.11 | ripero | yeah, that's my motto |
| 16:27.33 | jeet | wait so they are not installed just downloaded? |
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| 16:28.06 | jeet | on my pc i downloaded and unzipped and just put the directory tree somewhere and linked to it with visual studio and windows |
| 16:28.11 | ompaul | jeet: apt-get install FOO installs FOO and you can then use FOO and or it's components |
| 16:28.32 | jeet | right, i did apt-get install libopencv-dev yesterday |
| 16:28.36 | jeet | while connected to the internet |
| 16:28.37 | ompaul | jeet: no clue about windows and frankly if it disappeared tomorrow the world would be a better place |
| 16:28.55 | ompaul | jeet: read that page I pointed you to please |
| 16:29.18 | jeet | ok but why they want me to download cmake? |
| 16:29.25 | jeet | i thought i should use cmake on my laptop |
| 16:29.30 | jeet | to build for the linux system |
| 16:30.02 | jeet | my linux system is not very powerful |
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| 16:30.55 | ompaul | jeet: you told us you wanted to learn and don't know, I've told you how to get the stuff you want have a look at their install guide, have a look at the link I posted, as for your linux suystem not being powerful well I can't help that but you do need to isntall all the parts you want |
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| 16:31.29 | jeet | ok thanks i wil try some things out |
| 16:32.27 | acu | dutchfish: it was the lack of bridge utils that lead to those silly questions - thanks a bunch :) |
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| 16:33.34 | acu | I just install wheezy freshest (suposedly with 52 bugs left :) so I thought it is imposible such a basic thing not to work such bridge :) |
| 16:33.44 | acu | everything is dandy now |
| 16:34.15 | arvind_khadri | Hi, when I run df -h I see a different value at the used column than when I do du on '/'. Am I missing something? |
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| 16:35.25 | acu | !df |
| 16:35.26 | dpkg | well, df is #del# |
| 16:35.47 | acu | !du |
| 16:35.48 | dpkg | well, du is #del# |
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| 16:38.45 | ksuhku | arvind_khadri, compare whatis df and whatis du |
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| 16:47.51 | yaf_elec | can someone help me with wifi ? I did a fresh install of debian sqeeze. I installed also wicd and scan for wifi networks. I get a list of them, but it fails to connect. The procedure seems to get stuck at "Obtaining IP" step |
| 16:48.29 | jhutchins_wk | yaf_elec: Network Manager in squeeze works better for more people than wicd. |
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| 16:48.55 | yaf_elec | jhutchins_wk, with network manager, I see no wifi networks at all |
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| 16:49.58 | jhutchins_wk | yaf_elec: Did you remove it completely before installing wicd? |
| 16:50.15 | yaf_elec | jhutchins_wk, |
| 16:50.16 | yaf_elec | no |
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| 16:50.31 | jhutchins_wk | yaf_elec: At least shut it down? |
| 16:50.50 | yaf_elec | yes |
| 16:51.03 | jhutchins_wk | What about the command line tools? |
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| 16:51.28 | yaf_elec | hm, wait, there are some procs and deamons running I see... |
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| 16:52.49 | arvind_khadri | ksuhku, acu from the internet it seems to be a open file descriptor problem. |
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| 16:55.36 | sKeiths | how can you tell package installer that a dependency has been resolved when it believes it has not? |
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| 16:56.50 | yaf_elec | jhutchins_wk, how does it usually work ? I have to laptops. It took me quite much time to configure wireless in my previous one too. If I remember well I had to load a module to make it work (b43) |
| 16:56.51 | SYN4PS3 | after installing firmware-brcm80211 and wireless-tools, the bluetooth device disappeared, no bluetooth shown in rfkill list, even the bluetoothd running and the module is inside the kernel. |
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| 17:02.29 | erum | Hello Dudes, I want to get a list of files a .deb package has installed, how do I do it via CLI? |
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| 17:03.14 | zykotick9 | erum: "dpkg -L foopackage" |
| 17:03.38 | erum | nice, thanks zykotick9 |
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| 17:04.04 | erum | and what about finding out what package installed an specific file? |
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| 17:04.52 | x10 | rtfm |
| 17:04.56 | zykotick9 | erum: try "dpkg -S /path/to/file" |
| 17:05.17 | erum | excellent, thanks zykotick9! |
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| 17:05.42 | koneko | hi all! |
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| 17:06.19 | Quest | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.25 | koneko | How I can change screen mode (resolution) in console, "on-the-fly", without modify kernel parametres ("vga=788" or somethiing similar doesn't work) |
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| 17:07.56 | koneko | thank for any hint! |
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| 17:08.06 | zykotick9 | koneko: look into fbset, not sure it can do it on the fly or not. |
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| 17:08.24 | zykotick9 | koneko: also, vga= is deprecated, you shouldn't be using it. |
| 17:08.28 | koneko | zy: thank you very much; I'll trying |
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| 17:08.59 | bezaban | Quest: there's the linux terminal server project I've been meaning to try |
| 17:09.13 | bezaban | Quest: has a windows client but relies on cygwin I think |
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| 17:10.57 | jeet | Getting the latest stable OpenCV version |
| 17:10.59 | jeet | for that step |
| 17:11.04 | alfplayer | Quest: VNC is 5900 |
| 17:11.05 | jeet | did i already accomplish it using the download i did |
| 17:11.06 | jeet | É |
| 17:11.07 | jeet | ? |
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| 17:12.29 | jeet | and i can't seem to find the version number |
| 17:12.34 | jeet | of the files i have installed |
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| 17:13.34 | x10 | jeet: rephrase your problem |
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| 17:13.55 | jeet | is there a way to detect the version |
| 17:14.00 | jeet | like "whois opencv" |
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| 17:14.17 | bezaban | openvnc -v or --version or something along those linex |
| 17:14.19 | bezaban | lines* |
| 17:14.23 | ompaul | ,v opencv-doc |
| 17:14.25 | x10 | dpkg -l |
| 17:14.26 | dpkg | Files in package x10-pr0n: /srv/x10-pr0n/x10.jpg |
| 17:14.26 | judd | Package: opencv-doc on i386 -- squeeze: 2.1.0-3+squeeze1; sid: 2.3.1-11; wheezy: 2.3.1-11; experimental: 2.4.1+dfsg-0exp2; experimental: 2.4.3+dfsg-1 |
| 17:14.40 | x10 | dpkg -l | grep opencv |
| 17:14.40 | dpkg | ii | grep opencv 3.8-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 17:15.02 | jeet | x10 the answers scrolled off the screen |
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| 17:15.11 | jeet | oh |
| 17:15.18 | ompaul | jeet: well make irc bigger and use a client inwith a scroll bar |
| 17:15.33 | subthalamus | probably a stupid question, but how do I find the optical drive in a bash script? |
| 17:15.36 | killerstorm | hi. I'm trying to install Debian 6 on ultrabook. It could boot in GUI, but some drivers are missing, notably everything networking-related. Am I supposed to download them manually, or is there a better way? |
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| 17:15.37 | jeet | my keyboard is messed up |
| 17:15.44 | jeet | i cant type | on the debian machine |
| 17:15.52 | jeet | i meant the screen scrolled off the linux lol |
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| 17:15.55 | subthalamus | /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw /dev/dvd /dev/sr0 |
| 17:16.11 | bezaban | | is extremely useful in linux |
| 17:16.17 | subthalamus | what other possibilities? |
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| 17:16.44 | acu | killerstorm: use Next (almost next version) Debian 7.0 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 17:17.00 | jeet | alt code for the win? |
| 17:17.17 | zykotick9 | subthalamus: /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw /dev/dvd ALL probably are links to the /dev/sr0 (or sr1, sr2, etc) |
| 17:17.34 | jeet | no didnt work |
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| 17:17.47 | acu | also, if you have a ton of proprietary drivers you may need to enalbe contrib non-free repositories and install linux-firmware-nonfree (something like this) |
| 17:17.47 | jeet | can't figure out how to type a | |
| 17:18.01 | acu | killerstorm ^^^ |
| 17:18.11 | x10 | come back when you do |
| 17:18.19 | subthalamus | zykotick9: ok, but what if there isn't an optical drive for example? |
| 17:18.39 | knecht | hello, please anybody can help me with aticonfig via ssh? |
| 17:18.44 | subthalamus | how does the script detect this and exit? |
| 17:18.48 | ompaul | jeet: depending on the keymap you set up .. on mine it is | beside the letter Z on the bottom row - but I don't know where you are from or what you choose as a language when installing not that that would help me if you are using something different |
| 17:19.12 | killerstorm | yep I need iwlwifi, it seems to be in non-free. so it isn't on CD? |
| 17:19.18 | jeet | so this keyboard aint compatible? |
| 17:19.23 | ompaul | killerstorm: wired install is good |
| 17:19.30 | ompaul | jeet: no, that is not what I said. |
| 17:19.32 | zykotick9 | subthalamus: my system doesn't have an optical drive, so i don't have any /dev/sr* or /dev/cdrom etc... |
| 17:19.34 | jeet | it is a microsoft keyboard with some internet shortcuts and video |
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| 17:20.05 | ompaul | jeet: you are going to have to do better than that, what I said is that it depends on the language you picked when installing |
| 17:20.07 | acu | killerstorm: install through the wire first (netinstall) - then you will see if wifi needed or not - it may work out of the box - if not, read what I said before |
| 17:20.27 | ompaul | jeet: and there I have to leave you |
| 17:20.37 | acu | I would go straight for Wheezy - it has newer everything - it seem that you are new to debian, so start with Next-Gen :) |
| 17:20.53 | Mr_Queue | jeet: On every single keyboard I've seen it's over the enter key.. It might be 2 vertical lines instead of one. |
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| 17:21.11 | cusco | hi |
| 17:21.50 | alfplayer | hi |
| 17:22.23 | Mr_Queue | killerstorm: No you'll need to add iwlwifi after. I don't remember if the current installer but loading that from USB works or not. |
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| 17:23.00 | jeet | yeah its there |
| 17:23.02 | jeet | but when i press it |
| 17:23.07 | jeet | i get a tilda |
| 17:23.08 | jeet | ~ |
| 17:23.12 | jeet | when i press tilda |
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| 17:23.30 | jeet | i get a horizontal bar in the middle and a vertical half bar on the right |
| 17:23.31 | Mr_Queue | You need fix your layout then. |
| 17:23.34 | jeet | like a rotated J type thing |
| 17:24.04 | Mr_Queue | http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard |
| 17:24.06 | jeet | fix layout - command not found |
| 17:24.19 | x10 | face palms |
| 17:24.25 | Mr_Queue | # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
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| 17:24.49 | jeet | thank |
| 17:24.52 | jeet | i was joking lol |
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| 17:26.39 | acu | hey guys does anyone use btrfs on wheezy ? is it stable ? (I know at the edge is heavy under development) but... I was hoping for some experience |
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| 17:27.17 | Mr_Queue | acu: It's out, look at the tools.. Do you have an array? Do you need a fsck? |
| 17:27.47 | Mr_Queue | I would stick with ext4 if for a production box.. |
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| 17:29.03 | Mr_Queue | personally I'm more interested in seeing zfs further developed than btrfs. |
| 17:29.17 | acu | Mr_Queue, no, I have no array (or planning) I will use jbods with later ceph - but I do not need raid nor fsck (well if something goes wrong I would like to have a repair option) |
| 17:29.20 | Mr_Queue | zfs is......... the shit. |
| 17:29.58 | acu | is that so ? I noticed that the ceph guys say btrfs is the ... :) why zfs is the ... *t ? :) |
| 17:30.28 | Mr_Queue | Go read about both... |
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| 17:31.11 | acu | Mr_Queue: a thumbnail advantage for zfs ? :) |
| 17:31.11 | yaf_elec | hi, iwlist scan gives me a list of all available wifi networks. However, network-manager does not show any of them. How can I connect to to any ? |
| 17:31.49 | Mr_Queue | One major feature that distinguishes ZFS from other file systems is that ZFS is designed from the ground up with a focus on data integrity. |
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| 17:32.18 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: because other filesystems don't care about data integrity ? |
| 17:32.33 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: Not like zfs.. |
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| 17:33.10 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: I know you're playing the devils advocate here.. |
| 17:33.48 | zykotick9 | Mr_Queue: while i thought the windows-like restore to earlier date was pretty cool with zfs. I wouldn't use a non-kernel supported filesystem on gnu/linux myself. |
| 17:33.51 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: no, i'm just saying that all filesystems care about data integrity |
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| 17:34.35 | Mr_Queue | zykotick9: Which is why I would like to see more development on it. |
| 17:34.35 | abrotman | zykotick9: so would you use btrfs? |
| 17:34.46 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: is Oracle still holding the leash on ZFS? |
| 17:34.59 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: I agree, but zfs is the cats ass on it.. |
| 17:35.01 | acu | so what is exactly copy-on-write ? |
| 17:35.12 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: not so much, but yes. |
| 17:35.16 | zykotick9 | abrotman: i haven't tried btrfs (i don't see a need). i used zfs on opensolaris. |
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| 17:36.18 | rigid | ahoy |
| 17:36.36 | rigid | would someone please tell me how to find out when debian will upgrade a package? |
| 17:36.45 | Mr_Queue | Sure. |
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| 17:36.56 | Mr_Queue | You need the DD cell phone and family schedule. |
| 17:37.00 | rigid | I see that pkg-config 0.26 is currently used, I wonder when 0.28 can be expected to become stable? |
| 17:37.11 | zykotick9 | rigid: are you using stable? and do you know what that means? |
| 17:37.31 | abrotman | rigid: which package, and which version of Debian? |
| 17:37.49 | Mr_Queue | I smell apt-pinning coming.... |
| 17:37.55 | abrotman | no |
| 17:38.08 | rigid | zykotick9: not really... i'm using gentoo (there is "stable". "masked",...) i'm trying to research that for ubuntu & mint users (and other debian derivates) |
| 17:38.24 | rigid | abrotman: currently i'm on a mint system... how would I find out? :) |
| 17:38.38 | abrotman | rigid: by asking #linux-mint |
| 17:38.41 | rigid | obviously doesn't know much about debian habits :) |
| 17:38.42 | Mr_Queue | hahaha |
| 17:38.58 | zykotick9 | rigid: once a debian release happens. packages are NOT update at all, only security/major bug fixes, to the current version of any package. |
| 17:38.59 | abrotman | !tell rigid about mint |
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| 17:39.16 | abrotman | rigid: as this is #debian, we haven't a clue how Mint manages their releases |
| 17:39.17 | Mr_Queue | they should start a #debian-reload on freenode. |
| 17:39.22 | rigid | abrotman: they probably tell me that they use debian packages and will upgrade pkg-config as soon as debian does, won't they? |
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| 17:39.30 | abrotman | rigid: NFC, ask them |
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| 17:39.45 | mojzesz | Witam |
| 17:40.15 | rigid | abrotman: how would they know when upstream will release a new package? |
| 17:40.27 | frouti | hi, I have a domain called friend4all.com , but now I wana have irc.friend4all.com |
| 17:40.34 | Mr_Queue | dude. |
| 17:40.35 | frouti | how can I do it, anyone know? |
| 17:40.37 | Mr_Queue | add it |
| 17:40.38 | abrotman | rigid: how do you know Debian is the upstream? Mint has their own packages |
| 17:40.50 | rigid | frouti: you have to create a subdomain |
| 17:41.06 | Mr_Queue | frouti: add the A RR and then make the vhost for it. |
| 17:41.09 | frouti | rigid: can u help me with it |
| 17:41.10 | mojzesz | Hello |
| 17:41.14 | rigid | frouti: you'll probably be sent to #dns #bind or #networking soon ;) |
| 17:41.31 | Mr_Queue | or CNAME, your choice. |
| 17:41.48 | rigid | ...or wildcard... |
| 17:41.50 | frouti | but how to do it |
| 17:41.54 | frouti | ? |
| 17:41.56 | Mr_Queue | rigid: or.. :D |
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| 17:42.13 | abrotman | frouti: you shuld read teh docs for your DNS server |
| 17:42.21 | Mr_Queue | frouti: find a DNS book or link.. WAY out of scope for here. |
| 17:42.31 | rigid | frouti: your DNS administrator can do it... |
| 17:42.48 | Mr_Queue | Go use CloudFlare's DNS.. |
| 17:43.20 | acu | anyhow it seem that if I use btrfs I do not need LVM - while with xfs or any other file system (well zfs seem to have similar functions on that regard with btrfs) |
| 17:43.21 | frouti | rigid: I regd the domain and own it, can I do it? |
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| 17:43.31 | abrotman | frouti: ask your system admin, this is offtopic here |
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| 17:44.03 | Mr_Queue | frouti: You need to learn more about DNS. You can do anything you want in front of your SLD. |
| 17:44.36 | frouti | Mr_Queue: ah nice, do I call the tech support for the site where I regd my domain then? |
| 17:44.50 | rigid | frouti: are you running your own DNS? if not, ask the company/person who runs it. The keyword is "subdomain" |
| 17:44.50 | Mr_Queue | No, you go read a book about DNS. |
| 17:44.54 | Mr_Queue | That's what you do. |
| 17:44.57 | abrotman | okay .. can we stop this now |
| 17:45.01 | frouti | ok |
| 17:45.02 | acu | lol |
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| 17:46.42 | acu | Mr_Queue, did you read my last question - so it seem that btrfs and zfs do not need lvm, is that true - but about xfs ? |
| 17:46.47 | Mr_Queue | frouti: ISBN-10: 0596100574 is sitting on my workstation's desk. |
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| 17:46.57 | Mr_Queue | acu: They don't. |
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| 17:47.26 | Mr_Queue | We're stuck with LVM for snapshots.. Not such a bad thing.. |
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| 17:48.10 | acu | very cute way to mention a book :) |
| 17:48.14 | Mr_Queue | If you're doing virtural systems like KVM you're an idiot for not using LVM. |
| 17:48.59 | acu | you do LVM as a LVM storage or you still create .img inside an lvm ? |
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| 17:49.26 | Mr_Queue | The LV is the .img |
| 17:49.44 | abrotman | acu: have you read the LVM docs yet? |
| 17:49.45 | acu | not quite, you still need to dd it if you want .img out of it |
| 17:49.47 | Mr_Queue | Grow it as needed, snapshot it, whatever. |
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| 17:50.03 | packetfrog | I installed wheezy last night and when I go to open files(file manager) this get clunky for a couple seconds. (XFCE x86_64) any tips? |
| 17:50.13 | Orii | hey how do i get a new gpg sig for the wheezy repo? |
| 17:50.25 | Mr_Queue | find the keyring.. |
| 17:50.27 | Orii | its telling me i have a bad sig when i run apt-get update |
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| 17:50.40 | Mr_Queue | That's in the wiki and mailing list. |
| 17:50.45 | Orii | ok |
| 17:51.08 | packetfrog | this get=things get |
| 17:51.21 | abrotman | Orii: might be a bad mirror |
| 17:51.25 | Mr_Queue | ^ |
| 17:51.36 | acu | Mr_Queue, if you want to export a vm to another system, if it is a LVM based storage - is it possible ? The virt-manager clone does not work (to my knowledge) if you have LVM based virtual machines |
| 17:52.08 | trysten | hello debian |
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| 17:52.13 | trysten | i'm in trouble |
| 17:52.14 | hasdf | na ihr? |
| 17:52.15 | Mr_Queue | KVM openvz xen? It all depends. |
| 17:52.19 | Mr_Queue | acu: ^ |
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| 17:52.23 | acu | kvm |
| 17:52.30 | trysten | i can't compile anything because my computer overheats. i need to throttle it or something |
| 17:52.35 | Mr_Queue | Just snapshot it and move it. |
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| 17:52.50 | trysten | how do i keep my computer from overheating it'self |
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| 17:53.10 | Mr_Queue | trysten: Try 'nice' or Fry's for hardware. |
| 17:53.43 | Orii | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.52 | Orii | that is the repo im talking about |
| 17:54.02 | acu | Mr_Queue, that was the question, how to move it ? Let's say you have a different server somewhere in the network, you want to move a lvm based VM (kvm based) - you snapshot the vm logical volume then ? |
| 17:54.10 | abrotman | Orii: pastebin the error |
| 17:54.44 | Mr_Queue | acu: KVM migrations are out of scope here. It's covered all over the place. |
| 17:54.52 | zykotick9 | Orii: http.debian.net just redirects to your local mirror, whatever that is. i stopped using h.d.n because it correctly uses my closest mirror, but that mirror has regular issues. |
| 17:56.00 | acu | Mr_Queue, potentially everything is out of scope :) the question was simple, this is a part of "all over the place": ) |
| 17:56.07 | Mr_Queue | http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Migration |
| 17:56.18 | Mr_Queue | ^^^ Call that link god. |
| 17:56.22 | acu | now that's a place |
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| 17:57.02 | `Z` | hello |
| 17:57.42 | Orii | http://pastebin.com/pcnw36eP |
| 17:57.47 | koneko | How to change console video mode, in Debian live? fbset not help. Thank for any hint |
| 17:58.29 | Mr_Queue | koneko: Wrong channel. The Debian-Live project has their own. |
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| 17:58.41 | koneko | thank! |
| 17:58.41 | Mr_Queue | You're looking at hooks though.. Google that. |
| 17:58.58 | `Z` | Im having a problem with network-manager, on a debian testing XFCE4 amd64. I installed the network-manager-vpnc/openvpn/ptpp plugins, but when I open the network-manager throught the panel applet, and trying to configure vpn, the Create button is disabled. It says that the vpn plugin isn't installed. Does anyone has an idea please ? |
| 17:59.29 | Mr_Queue | VPN over WIFI has a 5+ year bug filed against it. |
| 17:59.36 | Mr_Queue | for network-manager. |
| 17:59.37 | abrotman | `Z`: you need the network-manager-vpn-gnome or whatever it is .. i filed a bug about this |
| 17:59.49 | `Z` | ok ok let me try :) |
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| 18:00.10 | `Z` | already installed actually |
| 18:00.20 | Mr_Queue | wifi or wired? |
| 18:00.20 | abrotman | let me look at what it was .. i can't recall |
| 18:00.28 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: it doesn't matter .. it's greyed out |
| 18:00.30 | `Z` | wifi, but it worked totally when I was using KDE |
| 18:00.37 | `Z` | yep abrotman |
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| 18:02.10 | abrotman | `Z`: i had to install network-manager-vpnc-gnome |
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| 18:02.32 | abrotman | `Z`: any time i'd try to configure it, the button would just do nothing until i installed that |
| 18:02.59 | Scall | Hello, how can I enable the command-not-found feature in the "tcsh" shell? In bash this feature is enabled by this lines in "/etc/bash.bashrc" → http://paste.debian.net/hidden/cdee07ad/ - ...and in "tcsh"? Thanks in advance. |
| 18:03.22 | Scall | s/this/these |
| 18:03.27 | Mr_Queue | Scall: tcsh isn't Debian.. |
| 18:03.33 | Mr_Queue | It's a shell. |
| 18:03.43 | abrotman | dpkg: dbugs 699307 |
| 18:03.52 | dpkg | #699307:W[network-manager-vpnc] network-manager-vpnc should mention network-manager-vpnc-gnome (); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:09:02 UTC [] |
| 18:03.58 | abrotman | judd: versions tcsh |
| 18:04.00 | judd | Package: tcsh on i386 -- squeeze: 6.17.02-4; sid: 6.18.01-2; wheezy: 6.18.01-2 |
| 18:04.01 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: ^^ |
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| 18:04.13 | Mr_Queue | Still just a shell. |
| 18:04.17 | Scall | Mr_Queue: but isn't possibile to do it? |
| 18:04.24 | `Z` | ho |
| 18:04.30 | abrotman | Scall: those commands many not work for tcsh .. does the command-not-found depend on bash? |
| 18:04.37 | `Z` | ok you was right abrotman :) |
| 18:04.42 | abrotman | `Z`: enjoy! |
| 18:04.43 | `Z` | thanks a lot man :) |
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| 18:05.22 | abrotman | `Z`: that was for a Cisco VPN btw .. not sure what yours is |
| 18:05.27 | Scall | abrotman: no, command-not-found not depend on bash |
| 18:05.46 | `Z` | OpenVPN, but I got the openvpn-gnome installed too |
| 18:05.54 | `Z` | it should work, ill try it right now. |
| 18:06.33 | MO_Handes | is /opt deprecated from directory structure? why is it not included in my install? |
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| 18:06.49 | abrotman | MO_Handes: that's not a Debian directory, you can use it yourself |
| 18:06.52 | Mr_Queue | MO_Handes: /opt and Debian.... |
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| 18:07.11 | Mr_Queue | I symlink it to /home usually. |
| 18:07.15 | Mr_Queue | well |
| 18:07.19 | nonconvergent | Hello. |
| 18:07.49 | Mr_Queue | google forced me to symlink it on this laptop.. |
| 18:07.53 | abrotman | that's silly |
| 18:08.02 | Mr_Queue | It is... |
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| 18:08.06 | nonconvergent | You could always do a bind mount. |
| 18:08.10 | abrotman | MO_Handes: you can use /opt/ and many third-party packages install there by default |
| 18:08.12 | nonconvergent | ...to whatever you're doing. |
| 18:08.26 | abrotman | Calgon .. |
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| 18:08.38 | MO_Handes | where is a good place for installing a pre compiled .tar.gz package which I manually downloaded then? |
| 18:08.54 | Mr_Queue | There is a bug to google on chrome using /opt and not cleaning itself up. |
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| 18:09.10 | Mr_Queue | For the .deb they provide. |
| 18:09.16 | nonconvergent | A lot of mpd configurations involve bind mounting your user's music directory to something in /var/, that way it works across users. |
| 18:09.19 | Mr_Queue | Seems they don't care. |
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| 18:09.35 | abrotman | MO_Handes: is it a single binary? |
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| 18:10.17 | MO_Handes | abrotman, no, it is xampp server, couple of binaries and configuration files |
| 18:10.30 | Mr_Queue | Smells like openfire.. |
| 18:10.35 | no_gravity | In this day and age, what is the best way to compress a folder? I will probably never look at it again. Or maybe in 10 years or so. tar -zcvf stuff.tar.gz /some/stuff ? |
| 18:10.45 | abrotman | MO_Handes: you can put it anywhere you like .. no reason you can drop it in /usr/local/bin/ also |
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| 18:10.51 | abrotman | !tell MO_Handes about stow |
| 18:10.53 | Mr_Queue | no_gravity: Depends.. |
| 18:11.08 | Mr_Queue | no_gravity: I like xz, but that take a pile more time than gz. |
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| 18:11.24 | alex_mayorga | no_gravity: I normally drop the v so it's quieter |
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| 18:11.35 | no_gravity | Mr_Queue: what is xz? |
| 18:11.37 | `Z` | totally working :) |
| 18:11.41 | `Z` | thanks again ;) |
| 18:11.52 | yaf_elec | can someone help me configure my wifi ? I see a list of available wireless networks with wicd (but not with network manager) but it cannot connect to any |
| 18:12.17 | alex_mayorga | I think the z would gzip after tarring or something |
| 18:12.22 | Orii | http://pastebin.com/pcnw36eP apt error i mentioned |
| 18:12.22 | Mr_Queue | no_gravity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xz |
| 18:12.52 | alex_mayorga | !livecd |
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| 18:12.52 | dpkg | A "live CD" (or live system) is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue CD or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian has its own Live CD (http://live.debian.net/), ask me about <debian live>. http://www.livecdlist.com/ |
| 18:12.57 | Mr_Queue | If you have the time and CPU use xz. |
| 18:13.07 | Mr_Queue | if you have the CPU but not time use gz |
| 18:13.19 | alex_mayorga | dpkg: debian live |
| 18:13.20 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 18:13.24 | abrotman | alex_mayorga: msg the bot |
| 18:13.30 | nonconvergent | alex_mayorga: You can msg the bot. |
| 18:13.37 | abrotman | he should |
| 18:13.40 | alex_mayorga | abrotman: nonconvergent: sorry |
| 18:13.54 | abrotman | Orii: you've tried a few times? |
| 18:14.19 | Orii | try what? apt-get update? |
| 18:14.36 | nonconvergent | yaf_elec: wicd and network manager don't work side by side. Which is started as a service? |
| 18:15.16 | Orii | with network manager and wicd its either one or the other. wicd is king in my opinion |
| 18:15.31 | abrotman | Orii: huh? |
| 18:15.47 | yaf_elec | nonconvergent, there are some wicd deamons/procs running |
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| 18:16.07 | loin | hello, can i somehow force a 'never remove this package' ? i tried /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove but i can still remove it... |
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| 18:16.23 | yaf_elec | but why can't I connect to any wireless ? the process stucks when I'm obtaining an IP address |
| 18:16.30 | zykotick9 | loin: keep ubuntu questions in #ubuntu please |
| 18:16.35 | Orii | abrotman: my thoughts exactly XD |
| 18:16.39 | nonconvergent | yaf_elec: might be a driver issue. |
| 18:16.45 | `Z` | this isn't a troll, but which is the best in your opinion Wicd or NM ? |
| 18:16.45 | Orii | im asking how do i get the key? |
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| 18:16.59 | loin | zykotick9, it's more of a apt-get issue than ubuntu issue |
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| 18:17.04 | abrotman | Orii: i asked if you tried a few times? did you try with aptitude? |
| 18:17.05 | yaf_elec | nonconvergent, any hint what to do ? |
| 18:17.09 | abrotman | loin: so ask #ubuntu |
| 18:17.11 | nonconvergent | yaf_elec: lspci -nn | grep [Nn]etwork |
| 18:17.16 | Orii | `Z`: wicd. nm has a annoying auto reconnect thing that is a pain |
| 18:17.39 | nonconvergent | yaf_elec: Look at the output of that for something formatted like |
| 18:17.48 | Orii | yeah i tried with apt and aptitude |
| 18:17.49 | nonconvergent | [10ec:8168] |
| 18:18.10 | nonconvergent | yaf_elec: That's called a pciid. We can see what drivers and firmware you need from that. |
| 18:18.29 | `Z` | Orii, the auto-reconnect should be a good thing, isn't it ? |
| 18:18.35 | yaf_elec | how can I check if the drivers and firmware are already installed ? |
| 18:18.47 | nonconvergent | yaf_elec: I have a device that I get partial support in Squeeze similar to what you're describing. |
| 18:18.48 | abrotman | if he can see the networks, do you think he needs more firmware? |
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| 18:19.39 | yaf_elec | yeah, that's my impression... since I can scan/see the networks, the driver must be ok |
| 18:19.45 | nonconvergent | abrotman: Like I said, I ran into an issue like that with Squeeze once. It was solved by either using a new kernel with the driver and grabbing the firmware, or by insmoding the staging driver. |
| 18:19.58 | abrotman | yaf_elec: how old is the device? |
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| 18:20.09 | yaf_elec | abrotman, quite new |
| 18:20.34 | abrotman | so it likely does need firmware .. which version of Debian is this again? |
| 18:20.35 | yaf_elec | I just got connected with wicd... |
| 18:20.42 | abrotman | yaf_elec: problem solved? |
| 18:20.47 | Trewas | `Z`: wicd is a dead project, network-manager at least has the benefit of being maintained |
| 18:20.52 | yaf_elec | no idea guys... this time got connected |
| 18:20.59 | yaf_elec | I used wicd |
| 18:21.08 | Orii | `Z`: eh it can be a real pain at times during certain circumstancs. the gnome3 one is even worse |
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| 18:21.34 | `Z` | ok ok guys, thanks for the feedbacks :) |
| 18:21.47 | Orii | good luck with whatever choice you make :) |
| 18:21.48 | abrotman | Trewas: it had a release about a year ago .. ont sure tha tqualifies as 'dead' yet :) |
| 18:22.35 | cookiemon5ter | how does debian handle startup services |
| 18:22.43 | Trewas | abrotman: I think that counts as dead :) |
| 18:22.48 | cookiemon5ter | how do i edit the order of things to be started |
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| 18:23.02 | abrotman | Trewas: I'd put that firmly in the "hiatus" stage :) |
| 18:23.10 | Aut0Exec | hi guys.. whats a good xmpp collaboration program that has screen sharing? |
| 18:23.16 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: change the numbers |
| 18:23.18 | Aut0Exec | openfire? |
| 18:23.24 | abrotman | Aut0Exec: you want a whiteboard? |
| 18:23.30 | Aut0Exec | no |
| 18:23.32 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: what numbers |
| 18:23.33 | Aut0Exec | just screen share |
| 18:23.37 | Trewas | abrotman: occasionally even the dead walk, so who knows |
| 18:23.39 | nonconvergent | network-manager doesn't have a decent cli for managing multiple APs. It works great if you only connect to a small number of APs and can define them all ahead of time, but if you like to slot in and out and don't want to run nm-applet or KDE (who doesn't have a standalone, so it's wrapped in plasma-desktop) then you're SOL w/regards to easy configuration of wireless networks. |
| 18:23.40 | Aut0Exec | abrotman: like ... remote desktop |
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| 18:23.44 | Aut0Exec | abrotman: pc takeover |
| 18:23.50 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: S* ? |
| 18:24.02 | nonconvergent | wicd on the other hand still has wicd-curses, which works peachy keen. |
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| 18:24.08 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: sure |
| 18:24.09 | cookiemon5ter | the ones in rcS.d ? |
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| 18:24.17 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: depends which run level you're playing with |
| 18:24.26 | abrotman | nonconvergent: nm has a method for using CLI stuff too |
| 18:24.56 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: boot |
| 18:25.16 | nonconvergent | abrotman: I've never been able to get it to cooperate with my needs. |
| 18:25.22 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: didn't really answer the question |
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| 18:25.47 | alex_mayorga | P |
| 18:26.00 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: i'm having an issue with logging in after startup. if I login right away the screen is black with an x cursor. |
| 18:26.15 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: if i wait a minute or two everything is fine |
| 18:26.22 | yaf_elec | network manager shows lo and wlan0:avahi interface |
| 18:26.22 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: so just wait? |
| 18:26.33 | yaf_elec | what's that, any idea ? |
| 18:26.43 | abrotman | what's what? |
| 18:27.22 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: want to make it so slim starts last so i don't have to wait after it has been started |
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| 18:27.40 | yaf_elec | abrotman, the wlan0:avahi |
| 18:28.53 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: it's probably already /etc/rc2.d/S99slim .. right ? |
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| 18:29.44 | Orii | ok fixed my problem :D |
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| 18:29.49 | Orii | thanks for the assassistance |
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| 18:30.10 | Orii | assistance * |
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| 18:30.29 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: /etc/rc2.d/S01slim |
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| 18:31.18 | abrotman | so you can move it to S99 if you want |
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| 18:32.28 | MO_Handes | I can't install ia32-libs on wheezy64. any solutions to this? http://paste.debian.net/247911/ |
| 18:32.42 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: are there docs about this startup stuff ? s01slim is in rc2-5.d |
| 18:32.56 | cookiemon5ter | i assume these are different runlevels ? |
| 18:33.27 | abrotman | !tell MO_Handes about multiarch |
| 18:33.32 | abrotman | cookiemon5ter: yes |
| 18:33.46 | abrotman | dpkg: tell cookiemon5ter about runlevel |
| 18:34.22 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: thanks for your time |
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| 18:36.10 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: random... you ever do a debootstrap on a OVH box with software RAID 1? block devices were complaining when assigning md's... I believe the netboot they provid was Debian as well.. Crap is weird.. |
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| 18:37.18 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: don't use OVH, sorry |
| 18:37.21 | jeet | i fixed my keyboard, what was that commnd again to show the install location for opencv |
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| 18:39.05 | jeet | which opencv returns noting |
| 18:39.08 | jeet | whereis opencv returns two paths |
| 18:39.13 | jeet | any ideas what that means? |
| 18:39.17 | BenNZ | hi having trouble setting up ntp on wheezy , this is my ntp.conf http://paste.debian.net/247914/ , not sure what im doing wrong , but the clock keeps getting set 1 hour ahead , my time is set to localtime |
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| 18:39.38 | jeet | nothing*^ |
| 18:39.39 | abrotman | exactly one hour ? |
| 18:39.50 | BenNZ | abrotman: yep |
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| 18:40.37 | BenNZ | abrotman: i have to manually set it back with date --set , even sets the bios clock foward to when it does |
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| 18:42.44 | jeet | i used "g++ hellow_world.cpp" |
| 18:42.58 | jeet | on a program very simple this one: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/program_structure/ |
| 18:43.01 | jeet | nothing came out? |
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| 18:43.10 | abrotman | BenNZ: and you're sure your UTC and timezone settings are correct? |
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| 18:43.22 | jeet | it just works for 3-6 seconds then terminal line comes back |
| 18:43.44 | BenNZ | abrotman: date gives me Sun Apr 7 06:42:34 NZST 2013 |
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| 18:45.09 | Mr_Queue | Cheat.. symlink the proper TZ from /usr/share/zoneinfo/ back to /etc/localtime |
| 18:45.32 | Mr_Queue | All unix and like. :D |
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| 18:47.28 | abrotman | !tell BenNZ about set the time |
| 18:47.34 | BenNZ | Mr_Queue: ok ill give it a go , thanks |
| 18:47.43 | abrotman | BenNZ: do it the right way |
| 18:47.55 | abrotman | not some hackish way that will break in two years and you won't understand why |
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| 18:47.57 | Mr_Queue | my way is the right way.. |
| 18:48.08 | Mr_Queue | Debian just give you a wrapper. |
| 18:48.12 | abrotman | yes, that's why you called it "cheating" |
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| 18:49.01 | Mr_Queue | Cheat the wrapper.. I'm good with that. |
| 18:49.12 | abrotman | BenNZ: please do it the right way |
| 18:49.39 | BenNZ | abrotman: ok , have you got link to a guide ? |
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| 18:49.54 | abrotman | BenNZ: see what the bot gave you |
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| 18:51.05 | Quest | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.06 | BenNZ | abrotman: ok |
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| 18:51.35 | BenNZ | abrotman: it doesnt really help tho , as ntp is already installed |
| 18:51.37 | abrotman | BenNZ: you're sure it's an hour, and not 13 or 11 hours? Did you check the am/pm ? |
| 18:51.51 | BenNZ | abrotman: nope 1 hour |
| 18:51.58 | abrotman | BenNZ: see the parts at the end about 'ntp' and 'timezone' ? |
| 18:52.08 | BenNZ | the timezone is correct |
| 18:52.14 | abrotman | okay |
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| 18:52.40 | BenNZ | its localtime not utc , ntp is installed , im starting to wonder the time servers time is wrong |
| 18:52.41 | gnude | since one week about 50 bugs on debian... |
| 18:52.44 | abrotman | BenNZ: is the system clock ever correct? |
| 18:52.49 | abrotman | the OS clock |
| 18:53.12 | BenNZ | abrotman: system clock and hardware clock are correct now |
| 18:53.29 | abrotman | BenNZ: and if you run 'ntpq' and then type 'peers' .. it says what/ |
| 18:53.30 | abrotman | ? |
| 18:55.02 | BenNZ | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/247919/ |
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| 18:55.08 | Mr_Queue | BenNZ: Just symlink it.. You can do that across any disto you find... |
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| 18:55.28 | Mr_Queue | NTP doesn't give a shit either... |
| 18:55.47 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: bug it if you want.. |
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| 18:56.34 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: he's said a few times the TZ is correct .. how will your method change the timezone? |
| 18:56.49 | abrotman | BenNZ: according to that, you're good .. |
| 18:56.57 | abrotman | BenNZ: so what is setting the time to be an hour off? |
| 18:57.23 | BenNZ | abrotman: im not sure , what else sets the time in debian? |
| 18:57.28 | abrotman | chrony is another app |
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| 18:57.32 | Mr_Queue | well /etc/localtime _is_ the timezone. |
| 18:57.34 | abrotman | your WM/DE could possibly do that |
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| 18:57.50 | abrotman | would hope they use ntp to do that ... |
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| 18:58.08 | Mr_Queue | chrony is cool... |
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| 18:58.32 | BenNZ | im using xfce , xfwm4 , im not sure if it would |
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| 18:59.25 | Mr_Queue | It was devloped for distcc applications where a .000001 of a second count. |
| 18:59.27 | abrotman | BenNZ: easy check is to not boot X |
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| 18:59.38 | BenNZ | abrotman: ok |
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| 18:59.45 | abrotman | BenNZ: so if it sits for an ho .... |
| 18:59.50 | abrotman | okay then ... |
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| 19:06.22 | BenNZ | ok .. odd , booted into tty1 , time was correct , ran startx time was correct , now i rebooted , time is correct , so seems to have fixed itself , i ran nothing i didnt run previously |
| 19:06.39 | abrotman | so glad to .. help? :) |
| 19:06.44 | BenNZ | oh well , happy its working , thanks for the time |
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| 19:07.18 | BenNZ | wouldnt have been nice to know the problem tho just in case it happens again |
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| 19:07.38 | TuxCannon | yay for FLAC and OGG? |
| 19:08.09 | yaf_elec | I'm trying to get skype work, it looks that I'm missing a lib: libQtWebKit.so, does anyone know which package is it ? |
| 19:08.17 | abrotman | !tell yaf_elec about apt-file |
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| 19:10.02 | cookiemon5ter | i installed skype the other day after it failed i just ran aptitude full-upgrade and it fixed it |
| 19:10.57 | cookiemon5ter | !tell cookiemon5ter about apt-file |
| 19:11.04 | TuxCannon | I had no problems installing it using the package from their homepage, Squeeze x86_64 |
| 19:11.37 | zykotick9 | yeats: personally i'd s/can cause/will cause/ ;) |
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| 19:11.41 | abrotman | !tell cookiemon5ter about selftell |
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| 19:12.36 | cookiemon5ter | abrotman: thanks lol |
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| 19:21.06 | packetfrog | On a fresh install of wheezy/xfce everytime I open the file manager it hangs for 5-10 seconds, any hints? :/ |
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| 19:23.43 | mycae | Hi, I'm trying to link a basic opengl program (just calling glBegin), but when I try to link against -lopengl32, I get lots of undefined reference errors - eg _mingw_app_type . Any ideas what linker flags I should be using for i686-w64-mingw32-g++. An empty program works fine. |
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| 19:34.13 | Mr_Queue | Not everything plays well with symlinks across partitions.. |
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| 19:41.10 | SteveH0 | I have an elderly NAS running Debian 3.0. Would it be possible to bootstrap it up thru the releases until it came to 6? If so, what is the process. The unit has no CD. |
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| 19:43.15 | dvs | SteveH0: The installation notes from version 4 to 6 have instructions on how to upgrade to the next version (and it works as long as you have a working Internet connection) |
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| 19:45.06 | xwalk | Does anyone know how to add ssh keys to an ssh server? It's been forever since I've done it and I don't understand/remember following instructions like this: http://www.howtogeek.com/wiki/Add_Public_SSH_Key_to_Remote_Server_in_a_Single_Command |
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| 19:47.04 | SteveH0 | dvs: I'm not a Debian user usually. Do you mean that there is a document for "version 4 to 6" insallation note, or are there notes for 4, 5, 6, etc.? How about decimal relases? |
| 19:47.40 | dvs | SteveH0: There are notes from 3 to 4, then 4 to 5, then 5 to 6 |
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| 19:48.32 | xwalk | And also I can't find any documentation on the numbers being used in the permissions changing. I understand the symbolic use of chmod (things like uga, etc) but I don't understand the numbers when people use them and I can't find anything that really explains that. |
| 19:48.57 | SteveH0 | dvs: ... and decimal versions? 3.0 to 3.1, etc, or can I just do major releases? |
| 19:49.14 | dvs | SteveH0: you can just do major releases |
| 19:49.31 | SteveH0 | dvs: TYVM! |
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| 19:51.02 | SteveH0 | xwalk: the numbers are decimal reps of the bits. i.e., 6 is 110, or +r, +w but not execute. |
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| 19:52.13 | xwalk | SteveH0: And then the xxx format for each of the digits is user, group, all right? |
| 19:52.17 | abrotman | !tell xwalk about permissions |
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| 19:52.35 | SteveH0 | xwalk: and if the number is 8 or above, it represents the sticky biy, etc., but I've only had one slug of caffeine so far, and I can't remember what the order of the higher bits are. |
| 19:52.43 | dvs | xwalk: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html#hownum |
| 19:54.04 | SteveH0 | xwalk: the xxx represents user perms, group perms and global perms. |
| 19:54.26 | xwalk | SteveH0: Yeah that's what I meant. I didn't know how to word it. |
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| 19:54.56 | SteveH0 | I'm kinda amazed that I could word it, myself. {grin} |
| 19:55.01 | Mr_Queue | heh |
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| 19:55.21 | SteveH0 | And dvs, thanks for the link!! |
| 19:55.23 | Mr_Queue | SteveH0: yeah just read the notes and walk that box up. |
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| 19:55.57 | SteveH0 | MQ: I think that I might just back it up, first. |
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| 19:56.39 | Mr_Queue | I doubt you will have much trouble doing it blind, but just read the notes..... Esp, if you're on the clock and paid to do it. |
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| 19:57.53 | SteveH0 | MQ: Nope, it is my NAS. |
| 19:58.04 | rryoumaa | if atime is such a huge deal for performance, yet people want it, then why can |
| 19:58.24 | rryoumaa | if atime is such a huge deal for performance, yet people want it, then is there an option to flush atime at really long intervals? |
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| 19:59.35 | Mr_Queue | Depends on what you're doing I guess. |
| 20:00.22 | Mr_Queue | deadline on a sql box... atime won't help you much so dump it.. |
| 20:00.55 | rryoumaa | is deadline a program? |
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| 20:01.02 | Mr_Queue | hahaha dude. |
| 20:01.08 | Mr_Queue | It's a scheduler.. |
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| 20:02.24 | rryoumaa | i'm just thinking of a normal user disk. atime is nice to have, but i don't care if the box crashes and the last 10 minutes of atime did not get updated. |
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| 20:02.58 | relipse | I set up tightvncserver on my linode, but how do i get a normal desktop environment now, (i went through a tutorial and i have an ugly big X with an ugly background and no icons) |
| 20:03.01 | Mr_Queue | If it's a user box just give up on the idea of performance.... |
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| 20:03.19 | Mr_Queue | Secure it and call it good.. |
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| 20:04.28 | Mr_Queue | Performance and such should target end platforms... Web, sql, storage, etc... |
| 20:04.47 | Mr_Queue | You'll never make users happy.. Deal with it. |
| 20:06.19 | Mr_Queue | relipse: Why are you doing a desktop on a remote server? You're doing it wrong. |
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| 20:09.31 | relipse | Mr_Queue: I dunno why not |
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| 20:09.42 | Mr_Queue | Uhhhhhhhhh |
| 20:10.08 | Mr_Queue | You should reload that box with Windows Server or pay someone.. |
| 20:10.53 | Mr_Queue | If you *think* you need a GUI desktop to run a Linux box you're doing it wrong. |
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| 20:11.12 | brontosaurusrex | what happens when i run out of mem and out of swap? |
| 20:11.21 | brontosaurusrex | horrible system crash or ...? |
| 20:11.21 | Mr_Queue | You reboot. |
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| 20:11.43 | Mr_Queue | brontosaurusrex: Look at OOM killer or cgroups. |
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| 20:14.21 | Nach | After a recent upgrade, my terminals (F1-F6) no longer output video (screen goes into power saving if I select one of them). Is there something I can try doing to get them to work again? |
| 20:14.51 | Nach | Despite the screen being blank, I can still log into them though, and do stuff, so at least they're still there. |
| 20:15.11 | Mr_Queue | Sounds like something custom changed in /etc/security |
| 20:15.22 | Mr_Queue | Where tty's are defined. |
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| 20:16.14 | Nach | Mr_Queue: Lastest timestamp in that three is from 2011 :P |
| 20:16.18 | Nach | in that tree* |
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| 20:17.04 | Mr_Queue | humm. try to figure out how to strace the parent PID and catch what is going on. |
| 20:17.46 | Mr_Queue | I'd write it out to a file on a large partition and then grep through it. |
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| 20:21.10 | erin1983684 | hey peeps how do i block a bunch of ips with iptables without having to put 50 rules in my config? |
| 20:21.20 | Mr_Queue | You can't. |
| 20:21.30 | erin1983684 | bah? |
| 20:21.36 | erin1983684 | really? |
| 20:21.47 | Mr_Queue | Unless they're in a CIDR range. |
| 20:21.53 | erin1983684 | poooh |
| 20:22.07 | Mr_Queue | Else you're stuck with a shell script to catch them. |
| 20:22.34 | abrotman | erin1983684: are they in a range? |
| 20:22.49 | Mr_Queue | However, if you get a big enough list you'll hose performance dealing with packets in the routing table. |
| 20:22.54 | erin1983684 | like 2-50 |
| 20:23.06 | erin1983684 | 192.168.1.2 to .50 |
| 20:23.11 | abrotman | sure .. |
| 20:23.15 | abrotman | just those 50 though ? |
| 20:23.21 | erin1983684 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.27 | erin1983684 | i guess i should use a subnet eh? |
| 20:23.36 | erin1983684 | block one sub from ap then allow the other |
| 20:23.45 | abrotman | erin1983684: man iptables, you can do a range |
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| 20:23.51 | Mr_Queue | ^^^^^ |
| 20:23.52 | erin1983684 | ok |
| 20:24.00 | abrotman | erin1983684: or ask #netfilter if the docs are too much for you |
| 20:24.09 | erin1983684 | i can handle it |
| 20:24.44 | lakcaj | Any suggestions for development on a remote headless server using a graphical editor? I'm currently using sshfs but wondering what others in here might use. |
| 20:24.59 | Nach | lakcaj: I use KATE |
| 20:25.14 | lakcaj | goes to check out KATE |
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| 20:25.31 | Nach | It also works with editing over FTP too |
| 20:25.44 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: you run any large web servers? Seen any 508 attack recently? |
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| 20:26.11 | Mr_Queue | I think apache nip that in the butt.. |
| 20:26.33 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: different type of work on my end |
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| 20:26.54 | Mr_Queue | anything with mail abrotman? |
| 20:27.09 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: why? how is this Debian related? |
| 20:27.22 | Mr_Queue | It's not.. It's geek related.. |
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| 20:27.39 | abrotman | !tell Mr_Queue about ot |
| 20:27.43 | Mr_Queue | We can make it Debian related by saying... |
| 20:28.07 | Mr_Queue | Debian in front of web server or mail server just as easily. |
| 20:28.09 | brontosaurusrex | lakcaj, i think you can also use filezilla as middleman |
| 20:28.44 | Mr_Queue | 508's on a Debian web server would be Debian related.. |
| 20:30.03 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: 508 is unused? |
| 20:30.28 | Mr_Queue | No it's the timeout attack. |
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| 20:30.45 | abrotman | according to apache docs, error code 508 is unused |
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| 20:31.44 | Mr_Queue | You're correct.. I should have said 408. |
| 20:32.14 | abrotman | big difference |
| 20:32.59 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: i'd probably do some tcpdump stuff, seems like someone is opening a connection, not waiting for the http response |
| 20:33.39 | Mr_Queue | It would be slowloris typically.. |
| 20:34.12 | Mr_Queue | tcpdump would get you that... netstat would nail it as well. |
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| 20:35.48 | Mr_Queue | blackhole'ing the 408's would fix it... I was only asking if you had seen any lately. |
| 20:36.34 | abrotman | so it's got nothing to do with Debian ? |
| 20:37.03 | Mr_Queue | Sure it does. |
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| 20:37.21 | Mr_Queue | Lenny server would still be blasted. |
| 20:37.34 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: take it to the correct channel, this clearly isn't it |
| 20:37.40 | Mr_Queue | Squeeze I think not. |
| 20:37.41 | abrotman | stop metaasking .. it's fucking annoying |
| 20:37.49 | Mr_Queue | hahahha |
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| 20:38.20 | abrotman | doesn't find this amusing |
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| 20:39.32 | Mr_Queue | I'm curious....... you seem well versed in Debian.... So if you have access to Debian public facing servers, and if you're seeing these things.. |
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| 20:40.32 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: you've been told twice already, please go to the appropriate channel, seems like #solaris or #httpd |
| 20:41.06 | Mr_Queue | pft... You've missed the point and I give up. |
| 20:41.21 | abrotman | i asked you to keep it on-topic, you've failed |
| 20:41.31 | Mr_Queue | No sir, not at all. |
| 20:41.49 | abrotman | clearly, good luck in #httpd |
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| 20:44.14 | Mr_Queue | Because they would know the status of apache in Debian stable and how apache deals with attacks? I think not. |
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| 20:45.31 | Mr_Queue | And back to my question... Have you seen 408's lately? |
| 20:46.11 | abrotman | i answered you, you said slowaris was the problem |
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| 20:53.24 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: So you're saying.. "No, I don't have access to web servers which have seen 408 attacks lately."....? |
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| 20:54.50 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: i'm telling you to take it to #solaris (the OS you indicated has the problem) or #httpd to ask about the applicatoin |
| 20:55.00 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: and that's the last warning |
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| 20:55.38 | Mr_Queue | warning? |
| 20:56.14 | Mr_Queue | Check your scoll back.. No once did I mention solaris. |
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| 20:56.46 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.59 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: take it to #solaris != solaris |
| 20:58.18 | Mr_Queue | errr |
| 20:58.34 | Mr_Queue | slowloris |
| 20:58.39 | kay- | lol |
| 20:58.52 | abrotman | then i already gave you an answer .. NFC why you're still here blabbering |
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| 21:00.03 | baba | how to know that which packaging helper does a package uses ? |
| 21:00.31 | baba | i have downloaded a source file and want to check which packaging helper the package uses. |
| 21:00.37 | Mr_Queue | Yeah I don't know either... I asked you a question apparenty you were no cozy with, you dropped to the defensive, then with offensive with a 'warning' threat.. Not sure how to take all that.... |
| 21:00.47 | Quest | for LAN file sharing for Linux as server and windows as most clients. simple sftp:/ip from windows would be suffice (provied every user has an acccount in the server and a home folder) ? or an ftp server is needed? 2. what is fast and how much generally, sftp of ftp? |
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| 21:01.25 | Mr_Queue | baba: what do you mean 'packaging helper' |
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| 21:01.59 | Stameni | why everything comes out for ubuntu, on draftsight there is ubuntu debi nstaller, bricscad has ubuntu 32 and 64 bit deb packages but there is no debian packages ? |
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| 21:02.15 | baba | Mr_Queue: Classic debhelper vs CDBS vs dh |
| 21:02.17 | Stameni | there are no* |
| 21:02.28 | abrotman | Stameni: you shoyuld probably ask whomever maintains those packages |
| 21:02.36 | abrotman | Stameni: also, you can look for an RFP for Debian |
| 21:02.47 | Stameni | abrotman, what is RFP ? |
| 21:02.55 | Mr_Queue | Stameni: That doesn't make much sence in English. Try you native language and google translate. |
| 21:03.02 | abrotman | Stameni: are you talking about Bricad ? |
| 21:03.19 | Stameni | BricsCAD |
| 21:03.53 | abrotman | Stameni: it has a tgz, you can use stow to manage that |
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| 21:04.17 | abrotman | Stameni: otherwise, you'd have to ask that company why they prefer Ubuntu over Debian |
| 21:04.31 | brontosaurusrex | Quest, mostly depends on your server cpu, many ssh connections can take a lot of cpu |
| 21:04.36 | Stameni | abrotman, i`ll try to find out what that is |
| 21:04.37 | brontosaurusrex | Quest, ftp is faster |
| 21:05.09 | abrotman | !tell Stameni about stow |
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| 21:10.04 | Quest | brontosaurusrex, how much? |
| 21:10.12 | Quest | brontosaurusrex, how much in percentage? |
| 21:10.30 | brontosaurusrex | Quest, depends on your server and your specific client cpu |
| 21:10.39 | brontosaurusrex | in percentage: do your tests |
| 21:10.58 | Quest | ok |
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| 21:10.59 | Quest | if i give each user ssh acces (but dont give them console login access) could they see dirs outside their /home by sftp? |
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| 21:14.46 | acu | what else than /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/networking/interfaces dns-nameservers I need to change for resolution to work ? |
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| 21:20.03 | Towzzer | /etc/resolv.conf is all you need |
| 21:20.05 | Towzzer | what is the content |
| 21:20.35 | abrotman | you can have them listed in both |
| 21:20.52 | acu | Towzzer: I have it simmilar to other nameserver IP address (I have two entries - that is all |
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| 21:21.06 | acu | it is weird a bit though |
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| 21:27.31 | Mr_Queue | Quest: you can limit all that by standing by the simple Unix permission standards Linux adhears to |
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| 21:27.42 | ManoftheSea | So, I upgraded packages including evolution earlier today. Now, it tells me I have new messages, but that the database is deformed. |
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| 21:28.16 | Mr_Queue | Quest: ACL's could be deployed but I suggest to keep it simple. |
| 21:28.26 | Quest | Mr_Queue, any user can read /etc/shadows . cant it? |
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| 21:28.54 | Mr_Queue | Quest: If a user can't read that file the have zero permissions. |
| 21:29.18 | Mr_Queue | You want to nuke a *nix box in seconds? Move /etc to /etc-haha |
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| 21:29.48 | Mr_Queue | Even root will get permission denided. |
| 21:30.41 | Mr_Queue | You'll have a shell in memory.. But stupid simple shit like ls will not work. |
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| 21:31.58 | Mr_Queue | You can't even move /etc-haha back to /etc |
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| 21:33.41 | relipse | I accidentally used tasksel to install a web server (but it was already installed) and now i'm getting "No Response" this is a linode, and i got an email saying something was exceeded |
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| 21:34.24 | markovh | something? |
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| 21:34.49 | relipse | linode_ananias, has exceeded the notification threshold (1000) for disk io rate by averaging 1067.02 for the last 2 hours. |
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| 21:35.06 | markovh | tried rebooting it? |
| 21:35.08 | relipse | that doesnt mean they shut off port 80 right? |
| 21:35.21 | subthalamus | who do I cry to about wasting a half an hour trying to use a feature not in a package because it wasn't new enough? |
| 21:35.23 | markovh | i would imagine the install process is caught in an infinte loop of reading/writing |
| 21:35.33 | testnrc | hi what's the best way to get install debian wheezy via a usb onto my desktop computer if I only have windows 7 on it? i won't to completely remove windows 7. does unetbootin work with debian? |
| 21:35.40 | subthalamus | bangs head on wall |
| 21:35.40 | markovh | subthalamus: yourself? |
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| 21:35.57 | subthalamus | markovh: I got that covered, thanks :P |
| 21:36.00 | gabedwrds | relipse: I'd guess one of the web servers (since there are two installed) is trying to start, finding that port 80 is already in use, and giving up. then retry until the universe ends. |
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| 21:36.19 | markovh | subthalamus: move to debian testing if you want more uptodate packages |
| 21:36.28 | subthalamus | markovh: already on it |
| 21:36.34 | relipse | gabedwrds: how do i see if i have 2 webservers? |
| 21:36.35 | markovh | there's fairly good reasons why software isn't imeediately released on stable. |
| 21:36.50 | subthalamus | I wonder if wheezy has the newest build |
| 21:36.57 | markovh | if you want even more uptodate, try ubuntu/ppas. even more so, compile from source |
| 21:37.01 | subthalamus | since the version didn't change |
| 21:37.09 | gabedwrds | relipse: before you used tasksel, which webserver was installed and how did you install it? |
| 21:37.19 | subthalamus | markovh: yea, I had to svn and compile |
| 21:37.24 | brontosaurusrex | relipse, service --status-all perhaps |
| 21:37.27 | markovh | immediately rather |
| 21:37.59 | subthalamus | but it took me forever to figure out why the tool didn't "support" what it said it did ::cries:: |
| 21:38.06 | markovh | subthalamus: if you had to pull from svn, it doesn't seem likey the feature would be in any release |
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| 21:38.32 | format_c | testnrc, which os your sitting at to prepare the USB media? |
| 21:38.46 | markovh | otherwise sure, a downloaded tar from their site probably would have worked... nothing to do with debian. (assuming you actually needed an svn pull) |
| 21:38.55 | testnrc | format_c: windows 7 |
| 21:39.10 | subthalamus | markovh: I'm not familiar with how the packager people operate |
| 21:39.42 | format_c | OK then you have to use unetbootin |
| 21:39.43 | brontosaurusrex | subthalamus, apt-cache show package | grep Version |
| 21:39.48 | format_c | on linux dd suffice |
| 21:40.03 | subthalamus | brontosaurusrex: the version is the same |
| 21:40.13 | brontosaurusrex | subthalamus, oh ... |
| 21:40.16 | subthalamus | unless u have a trick for finding the build |
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| 21:40.20 | markovh | subthalamus: i have no official affiliation with debian, however i do agree that with most distro oses, versions and package procedures should be a little more front and center |
| 21:40.29 | subthalamus | brontosaurusrex: might save me some time NEXT time heh |
| 21:40.43 | testnrc | ok |
| 21:40.46 | markovh | you tend to just pick it up after a while. if you google debian packages and go through the page, you can see all the details about hte package there |
| 21:41.18 | markovh | subthalamus: take ircd-hybrid for instance http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ircd-hybrid.html |
| 21:42.54 | subthalamus | markovh: I don't see where the build/revision is on there |
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| 21:43.30 | subthalamus | are you affiliated with ovh? |
| 21:43.35 | markovh | no |
| 21:43.46 | brontosaurusrex | subthalamus, perhaps apt-cache show package | grep Filename |
| 21:43.48 | markovh | they don't build from dev trees |
| 21:44.05 | markovh | they take release versions. the link i gave you had it on the left |
| 21:44.26 | markovh | for instance, 1:7.2.2.dfsg.2-6.2+squeeze1 means 7.2.2 version number |
| 21:44.48 | markovh | i think the 2.6.2 is the debian versiosn and the squeeze1 is the security patch version |
| 21:44.59 | markovh | google for further/exact breakdown in syntax |
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| 21:47.50 | Zeeflo | does anyone here know if its possible for apache to use PHP5 from dotdeb ? |
| 21:48.55 | subthalamus | markovh: yea, this is only the second time this has happened |
| 21:49.06 | markovh | which? |
| 21:49.27 | subthalamus | head > wall |
| 21:49.34 | Quest | Mr_Queue, thanks |
| 21:49.44 | Mr_Queue | Quest: any time. |
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| 21:50.19 | subthalamus | at least I'm happily encoding in opus now |
| 21:50.25 | Quest | I have read a bit tutorials about adduser and useradd. and chatted in freenode. i still didnt got an expert answer on how 1. to add a user as is added by default by ubuntu GUI with prober /home/userlongname constructing the /home and the .files dot file like .cashe . bash etc and 2. how to add a user with /home but no priviliges and NO console login . just files in his folder (for sftp) |
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| 21:52.02 | petn-randall | Quest: For 1) you'd best ask Ubuntu, we're not doing it that way. |
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| 21:52.38 | petn-randall | Quest: But probably it just creates an empty user dir and copies files from a template dir. |
| 21:52.51 | Towzzer | /etc/skel is where debian stores the template files for user's home directories |
| 21:52.55 | Towzzer | sorry |
| 21:53.32 | brontosaurusrex | subthalamus, opus audio? |
| 21:53.48 | subthalamus | brontosaurusrex: yassiree |
| 21:54.01 | brontosaurusrex | so what app was giving you problems? |
| 21:54.11 | Quest | petn-randall, how users are added in all linux distros? |
| 21:54.20 | subthalamus | brontosaurusrex: cd ripper |
| 21:54.27 | brontosaurusrex | ok. |
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| 21:54.47 | petn-randall | Quest: 2) sftp has docs about how to implement that. |
| 21:54.49 | subthalamus | looks like ogg opus comes in at about 1/3 smaller than regular ogg |
| 21:55.40 | petn-randall | Quest: Most distros simply use 'adduser'. |
| 21:56.01 | brontosaurusrex | subthalamus, thats bitrate related. |
| 21:56.18 | Quest | k |
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| 21:56.29 | subthalamus | brontosaurusrex: yea, I'm comparing vbr on both |
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| 21:57.50 | brontosaurusrex | i just got stuck with flac,alac and aac and can't be bothered to dig |
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| 21:58.45 | subthalamus | heh |
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| 21:59.04 | subthalamus | well, even those won't work on a lot of mobile players still ::sigh:: |
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| 21:59.17 | Towzzer | flac :D |
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| 22:02.26 | brontosaurusrex | Towzzer, what? :) |
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| 22:02.31 | Towzzer | flac is great |
| 22:02.35 | Towzzer | it's lossless |
| 22:02.45 | brontosaurusrex | so i've been told. |
| 22:03.19 | Towzzer | did you know if you re-encode a lossy compression to another it reduces the quality |
| 22:03.25 | Towzzer | mp3->mp3, even if the same bitrate |
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| 22:03.43 | Towzzer | I'm hoping one day everyone switches to lossless formats |
| 22:03.51 | abrotman | and there are those that say flac isn't good enough |
| 22:04.19 | Towzzer | what's wrong with flac |
| 22:04.26 | Towzzer | flac you buddy |
| 22:04.29 | abrotman | still not analog |
| 22:04.39 | Towzzer | analog! |
| 22:04.48 | Towzzer | why is analog better |
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| 22:05.42 | Towzzer | my reel to reel is on my floor because I was cleaning the heads |
| 22:05.52 | Towzzer | but digital is still better |
| 22:05.59 | subthalamus | but vacuum tubes maaan! |
| 22:06.06 | subthalamus | heh |
| 22:06.27 | Towzzer | each copy of analog source is worse than the original |
| 22:06.29 | ompaul | Towzzer: it is what you hear and what your brain constructs the sounds in your brain that you discriminate from when you were hunted by dangerous animals in the distant past about 40k years ago before we started having villages ;-) and this is really offtopic for here ;-) |
| 22:06.33 | Towzzer | and each read of an anlog medium reduces the quality |
| 22:06.48 | Towzzer | ok, I know it's off topic but audio is my thing |
| 22:06.52 | Towzzer | I'll stop |
| 22:07.31 | ompaul | that's a sound decision (the puns hurt me I have to put up with me in many more channels than you do ;-)) |
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| 22:09.21 | br87 | hi |
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| 22:12.55 | acu | I want to remove libreoffice from wheezy and it uninstalls gnome too - wonder if there is a way only to remove libre-office |
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| 22:13.30 | markovh | acu: log a bug report |
| 22:13.48 | markovh | it shouldn't try remove gnome |
| 22:14.17 | petn-randall | acu: Can't reproduce here. Libreoffice works perfectly without gnome. |
| 22:14.38 | abrotman | markovh: yes, it should |
| 22:14.40 | petn-randall | acu: You should explain your exact steps, maybe there's a thinko somewhere. |
| 22:14.42 | acu | marovh: I wonder about that - if it is not "by design" - but you are right -- petn-randall I want to remove libreoffice not r |
| 22:15.18 | markovh | abrotman: uninstalling libreoffice should try uninstall gnome? what? |
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| 22:15.33 | acu | I need to install libre office 4..0.2.2 and it complains about librefoffice core (which is from the 3.5) |
| 22:15.36 | abrotman | markovh: you don't know how it was installed, you can't say that |
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| 22:15.52 | abrotman | markovh: i'm sorry you don't understand metapackages |
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| 22:16.45 | acu | I could remove everything - I have lxde and kde in this workstation, however there is a command to uninstall only a package not everything - |
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| 22:17.02 | testing2_silent | name |
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| 22:17.53 | ompaul | acu: you mean something like this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/398347 |
| 22:18.00 | abrotman | acu: gnome depends on gnome-documents, which a few things later, recommends/depends on libreoffice-core |
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| 22:18.38 | abrotman | but i'm sure markovh already knew that |
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| 22:21.26 | acu | OK, so it seem that I have to uninstall gnome and libreoffice core - install libreoffice 4.0.2.2 in lxde then install gnome (if I need it ) |
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| 22:25.00 | nonconvergent | most drivers don't need/care about Xorg.conf, except for nvidia's proprietary, which does? do I have that right? |
| 22:25.14 | suppy | when i apt-get update , what file is updated ? |
| 22:25.43 | abrotman | suppy: /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 22:26.19 | owen1 | I get connection timeout when trying to access my server. It's running on port 3000 on my home server. I added A-record for my domain, I opened port 80 on my Motorola NVG510 Modem/Router and I run http-proxy on port 80 with a simple config file - http://hastebin.com/jixaheqibu.vhdl |
| 22:26.20 | owen1 | Here is the output of 'curl www.weighmyplate.com -v' => 'Trying 108.227.80.160... Connection timed out' |
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| 22:26.51 | suppy | abrotman: isn't that directory the location for already downloaded packages ? |
| 22:26.55 | owen1 | (btw, i can ssh to that box. opened port 22 and running ssh server, if that matters) |
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| 22:27.00 | abrotman | suppy: oh duh, sorry |
| 22:27.05 | ompaul | suppy: you update your packages and source packages lists in /var/cache/apt/ then when you actually do the update it fills the other directory one more down |
| 22:27.09 | abrotman | /var/lib/apt/lists/ IIRC |
| 22:27.09 | suppy | i mean where does the new list stored |
| 22:27.35 | suppy | hmm.. |
| 22:28.17 | ompaul | suppy: you need both what he said and what I said it's great fun honestly |
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| 22:36.36 | Zeeflo | apt-get source apache2 -t experimental is not working? |
| 22:36.48 | Zeeflo | Ignore unavailable target release 'experimental' of package 'apache2' |
| 22:36.55 | Zeeflo | debian squeeze |
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| 22:38.33 | abrotman | judd: versions apache2 |
| 22:38.35 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze7; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze10; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; sid: 2.2.22-13; wheezy: 2.2.22-13; experimental: 2.4.4-2 |
| 22:38.55 | abrotman | Zeeflo: did you add the source? are you aware it may break your system? are you aware it may have security issues? |
| 22:39.16 | Zeeflo | the guys in #apache tells me its safe |
| 22:39.24 | abrotman | i bet they do ... |
| 22:39.31 | Zeeflo | well tested and production ready.. |
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| 22:44.23 | ompaul | Zeeflo: it ain't in debian stable for a reason, it's not in wheezy for a similar reason, but building your own packages has some risks, and when you discover that some libs some package wants conflicts with your stable system, then you wonder what it is you are doing and why your favourite program on your production box suddenly died ;-) |
| 22:44.45 | Zeeflo | i know.. |
| 22:44.48 | Zeeflo | im sticking with 2.2 |
| 22:44.51 | ompaul | cos chasing the curb will some times throw you over it .. |
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| 22:45.51 | ompaul | Zeeflo: just one other line of free comment on this, the bleeding edge is sometimes referred to as just that because it will cut you ;-) glad you're sticking to 2.2 tbh |
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| 22:47.10 | Zeeflo | im in deep sh*t as it is.. So im not gonna experiment and risk a broken system on top of it.. |
| 22:48.11 | abrotman | maybe you sohuld start with your real problem |
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| 23:02.13 | BOY77X | http://www.reddit.com/r/XXXEROSXXX/comments/1bthxk/taylor_rain_anal_slut_of_the_world/ |
| 23:03.12 | markovh | something tells me this is nsfw |
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| 23:03.43 | ompaul | and the less comments the better |
| 23:04.09 | Darky | [00:41:50] 07/04/13 <BOY77X> http://www.reddit.com/r/XXXEROSXXX/comments/1bthxk/taylor_rain_anal_slut_of_the_world/ |
| 23:04.11 | Darky | on rizon |
| 23:04.27 | Darky | i think no one should click the links inside |
| 23:04.42 | Zeeflo | if the default editor in MC is vim, how do I change that to nano? |
| 23:04.43 | ompaul | and there was a need to repost |
| 23:04.54 | abrotman | Darky: WTF .. don't do that |
| 23:05.02 | Darky | do wat |
| 23:05.51 | Zeeflo | anyone? |
| 23:06.15 | Darky | why would you want to change ? |
| 23:06.22 | abrotman | Zeeflo: probably 'update-alternatives --config editor' |
| 23:06.28 | abrotman | Darky: knock it off |
| 23:06.59 | Zeeflo | thats strange.. its already set to nano. |
| 23:07.03 | Zeeflo | but mc is using vim |
| 23:07.09 | abrotman | Zeeflo: so man mc, see what it uses .. i do'nt use mc |
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| 23:08.34 | cookiemon5ter | Zeeflo: isn't there info in the manpage for config ? |
| 23:08.57 | cookiemon5ter | mc = midnight commander ? |
| 23:09.08 | cookiemon5ter | file manager ? |
| 23:09.21 | abrotman | yes |
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| 23:13.18 | ompaul | mc -> command menu -> edit extension or go search in your .config subdirectory |
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| 23:14.11 | Zeeflo | how do I search in vim? and how do I save the file i edited in vim? |
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| 23:14.28 | ParkerR | Zeeflo, :x to save |
| 23:14.39 | ParkerR | And /<searchterm> to search |
| 23:14.45 | Bernd187 | save => :wq |
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| 23:14.56 | cookiemon5ter | Zeeflo: ZZ |
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| 23:15.35 | Towzzer | or :x :D |
| 23:15.53 | cookiemon5ter | thought just saving and nothing else was :w |
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| 23:16.18 | Towzzer | we are assuming he wants to leave |
| 23:16.28 | cookiemon5ter | Zeeflo: and you search with / |
| 23:16.35 | Zeeflo | ok |
| 23:16.36 | Zeeflo | thanks |
| 23:17.08 | cookiemon5ter | i think to search you have to be in command mode |
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| 23:19.18 | Bernd187 | Zeeflo, take a look at http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vimqrc.pdf |
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| 23:32.05 | testing2_silent | are you guys still talking about apache? i heard a lot of 2. something servers are compromised |
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| 23:36.43 | Bernd187 | is there any way to disable scrollbars in firefox ? |
| 23:37.47 | nkuttler | Bernd187: with css? |
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| 23:38.46 | Bernd187 | just want to not see any scrollbar in my browser window |
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| 23:39.52 | ParkerR | Bernd187, http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/902136 |
| 23:39.53 | Bernd187 | like in terminator, there is an option to just disable them. i can scroll with my mousewheel so no need for those ugly bars |
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| 23:41.11 | thieh | Question: I am experiencing lack of sound problems (device not listed in alsamixer) after updating linux-image. is there a way to revert changes? |
| 23:41.56 | Bernd187 | ok, userstyles seems the only way... but one add on more, ff is fat enough ^^ - thx will try it |
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| 23:45.58 | Bernd187 | (no scrollbars) Solution: http://userstyles.org/styles/18356/remove-scrollbars-ff-3-5-4-wheel-works + Stylish-Addon seems to work |
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| 23:52.54 | thoonai | hey, my debian tells me that my uhci_hcd has a host system error |
| 23:54.04 | thoonai | then 'PCI problems?' and 'host controller halted, very bad!' any clue why my pcmcia usb hub doesn;t work? |
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