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| 00:03.48 | dsak | I have the following problem http://pastebin.com/KJULbayG when I type apt-get install build-essentials. how can I fix it? |
| 00:04.23 | abrotman | looks |
| 00:04.40 | abrotman | dsak: and apt-get update would probably help |
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| 00:06.15 | dsak | abrotman: I did it before it, however it didn't help. do you have another suggestion? |
| 00:06.16 | zoredache | dsak: given those version numbers, you are using lenny? Have you switched over to the archive? |
| 00:06.24 | abrotman | dsak: pastebin your sources.list |
| 00:06.26 | zoredache | lenny is EOL |
| 00:06.43 | themill | using aptitude might also help or at least provide a better error message |
| 00:07.36 | greylurk | I'm having issues with the archived lenny repo. The key looks like its expired. |
| 00:07.45 | themill | greylurk: of course it is |
| 00:07.55 | greylurk | Apt-get upgrade terminates with W: GPG error: http://shmg01 lenny/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1356982504 |
| 00:08.42 | greylurk | I"m using apt-cacher proxy, ignore the source. It's archive. |
| 00:08.45 | dsak | abortman, zoredache: I use lenny because the device do not support squeeze, here is my source.list and uname -a http://pastebin.com/HYbj9wMF |
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| 00:09.23 | abrotman | dsak: then yes, i'll agree with themill .. show the same process with aptitude |
| 00:09.41 | themill | greylurk: things get moved over to archive.debian.org when they're no longer supported and no longer updated. It make sense that the key that key has expired. |
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| 00:10.15 | zoredache | themill: on that note, is it possible to enable signature checking for a single repository? |
| 00:10.22 | zoredache | disable* rather? |
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| 00:10.47 | themill | zoredache: the key for all lenny repositories would be expired |
| 00:11.04 | themill | (yes, you should have upgraded to squeeze a year ago) |
| 00:11.27 | zoredache | themill: right, but you can completely disable key checking, I was working if you can do it per repository. |
| 00:12.01 | themill | no. you either care about signatures or you don't |
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| 00:19.24 | daniel6644 | Hey Guys, I have a small portable laptop with 2GB Ram and dual core 1.8GHZ CPU. it also has 64GB SSD. is debian a good choice. i hear its really fast on low end machines like that? |
| 00:20.10 | wols | your machine is not very low end. but yes, debian will run very well on it |
| 00:20.23 | abrotman | that's not low end at all |
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| 00:20.30 | daniel6644 | ok. I have been looking at isos but there are like 34 discs... is there a single disc iso I can use? |
| 00:20.38 | MrFrood | daniel6644: just check the wiki on using an ssd before installing |
| 00:20.42 | wols | daniel6644: the first one, yes |
| 00:20.43 | abrotman | !tell daniel6644 about netinst |
| 00:21.02 | wols | abrotman: netinst on laptop, bad idea. unless you suggest wheezy |
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| 00:21.29 | Arrowmaster | netinstall or dvd, skip the cds |
| 00:22.23 | abrotman | wols: he didn't say how old it is |
| 00:22.23 | daniel6644 | is 6.06 the latest version? |
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| 00:23.11 | foobaru | the netinst detected my wifi fine. ymmv |
| 00:23.22 | nkuttler | daniel6644: the latest stable release, yes |
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| 00:24.35 | daniel6644 | ok thanks |
| 00:24.40 | daniel6644 | ill give it a go |
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| 00:25.41 | nkuttler | daniel6644: squeeze was released two years ago, so some packages might look outdated to you. just ask here if you need something newer |
| 00:26.03 | daniel6644 | ok cool |
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| 00:26.13 | daniel6644 | im going to try the net install because i have wired and wireless |
| 00:26.17 | kdns | I've got a debian variant running on my htpc, that's a dual core amd64 with 1.5 gig of ram, runs fine. with pure debian it'd be even faster. |
| 00:26.17 | daniel6644 | so ill report back shortly |
| 00:26.58 | Yoshi1 | anyone here have experience getting the hdmi port connected on a laptop that has optimus technology? |
| 00:27.49 | abrotman | boo |
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| 00:29.53 | Yoshi1 | ah crap brb |
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| 00:31.06 | daniel6644 | Yoshu1 are you using bumblebee? |
| 00:31.40 | daniel6644 | oh he left :) |
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| 00:32.19 | daniel6644 | Yoshu1 are you using bumblebee? |
| 00:32.26 | bazkie | hi again |
| 00:32.59 | bazkie_bumpercar | just installed debian, all seems to work :) |
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| 00:33.52 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: yes i am |
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| 00:34.57 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: problem is xrandr continues to report my hdmi port as disconnected |
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| 00:35.20 | daniel6644 | are you using nouvoux drivers of nvidia? |
| 00:35.31 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: yes |
| 00:36.05 | daniel6644 | you need to use official Proprietary drivers |
| 00:36.25 | e2580 | hi, anyone know a rule based way i can control my media player, example, if id tag for artist contains "justin bieber", then skip next track? Im using clementine for a media player, i may be open to other players that support this but i prefer a generic approach. |
| 00:36.39 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: can you point me to a tutorial on ow to install them? |
| 00:37.29 | daniel6644 | let me find one. because using bumblebee and the correct nvidia drivers requires a few steps |
| 00:37.38 | abrotman | there's a wiki page about using optimus/bumblebee on the Debina wiki |
| 00:38.07 | Yoshi1 | i dont need a wiki about optimus/bumblebee i need a tutorial for installing the nvidia proprietary drivers |
| 00:38.09 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1 chec the wiki as sugguested |
| 00:38.46 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1 you really do. they both require very specific instructions as they go hand in hand |
| 00:38.47 | abrotman | Yoshi1: okay, do what you want .. that seemed to work so well last time |
| 00:38.55 | daniel6644 | if you install the nvidia drivers now its will break bumblebee |
| 00:39.14 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: yes bumblebee works fine thats not the issue |
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| 00:40.35 | matxinada | Hello. Debian wheezy I settle on my laptop and the webcam is not working. Could anyone help? |
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| 00:43.34 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: and i prefer to do things methodical one thing at a time first step is installing the nvidia propriatary driivers second step is getting bumblebee to work if and when doing that breaks bumbblebee |
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| 00:44.27 | tidux_ | I'm having a problem with wheezy PPC on a 700MHz G4 iMac |
| 00:44.42 | tidux_ | anyone here know anything about PPC video drivers? |
| 00:44.45 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1. They MUST be done at the same time to function. As Bumblebee is really an opensource version of Optimus a hardware instruction on YOUR gpu. |
| 00:45.35 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: that doesnt really compute in my brain |
| 00:45.39 | yazdmich | would superoneclick work on debian in WINE? |
| 00:45.47 | abrotman | tidux_: you'd have to be more explicit |
| 00:46.05 | tidux_ | I think it might be related to the lack of KMS support on my iMc |
| 00:46.08 | tidux_ | *iMac |
| 00:46.21 | tidux_ | comments out all the blacklists of framebuffer drivers |
| 00:46.23 | tidux_ | let's try that |
| 00:46.26 | matxinada | Hello. I installed Debian Wheezy on my laptop and the webcam is not working. Could anyone help? |
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| 00:46.51 | tidux_ | hmm, that's not it |
| 00:46.57 | daniel6644 | matxinda, give some detail on hardware. |
| 00:47.07 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1 I dont know how to help you |
| 00:47.12 | tidux_ | abrotman: right after /dev gets populated, the screen fades to white |
| 00:47.17 | daniel6644 | Sorry |
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| 00:47.38 | tidux_ | it's like what happens on my AMD-graphics laptop if trying to use radeon without firmware loaded |
| 00:47.49 | tidux_ | except that sshing in and invoking "startx" doesn't fix it |
| 00:47.59 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: i mean cause to install the nvidia drivers dont you just have to get them prepare them for running then shutdown x and run them? like wherw would you at the same time install bumblebee in that process? |
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| 00:48.54 | LtL | tidux_: that sounds like the nouveau driver, try nomodeset |
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| 00:49.36 | TheWarden | How does one list the contents of a bzip2 archive? For example for gzip if you have file.gz you can do gzip -l file.gz. How is this achieved with bzip2? I don't see anything in the man pages unless I'm just not seeing it. |
| 00:49.48 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, http://askubuntu.com/questions/202644/how-to-install-nvidia-optimus-driver-on-ubuntu-12-10 |
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| 00:51.02 | Towzzer | tar -tvf file.tar.bz2 |
| 00:51.07 | carandraug | hi! My wireless goes down out of nowhere. I need to turn it off an back on to fix it but it's getting annoying. The module is part of the linux mainline kernel. Should I just report that or is there something that someone could suggest me doing first? |
| 00:51.14 | Towzzer | tar -jtvf file.tar.bz2 |
| 00:51.14 | Towzzer | sorry |
| 00:51.20 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: ok thats bumblebee like i said that comes after the proprietary drivers |
| 00:51.22 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, The order you follow those steps is CRITICAL :) |
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| 00:51.33 | daniel6644 | That includes the drivers |
| 00:51.44 | TheWarden | Towzzer: that only works if the achive has been tarballed. I'm saying just having a file bzip2 only. |
| 00:51.44 | daniel6644 | you need to complete ALL the steps |
| 00:52.08 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: except those steps come after the driver install no? |
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| 00:52.39 | yazdmich | anyone? |
| 00:52.43 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, depends wich bumbleebee package you installed. there are a few |
| 00:53.32 | TheWarden | it appears its not possible |
| 00:53.37 | g-zus | I've installed wheezy but the alt-f# don't let me go to a console terminal. How can I enable alt-f1 - alt-f6 and alt-f8 - alt-f12 as console terminals? |
| 00:54.28 | MrFrood | g-zus: most odd |
| 00:54.42 | foobaru | g-zus: ctrl+alt+F# |
| 00:55.09 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: i used the suwako repo to install bumblebbee |
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| 00:55.27 | foobaru | g-zus: alt+F# is when you're already in a tty |
| 00:55.28 | daniel6644 | why not use the official bumbleebee repo |
| 00:55.45 | daniel6644 | Im just not sure what the differences are. |
| 00:55.48 | g-zus | sorry, I forgot to add the ctrl key, but that hasn't been omitted. When I press it, the console terminals are black and there is no login prompt or anything that distinguishes it between the other F keys. F7 brings me back to X, as expected |
| 00:56.14 | daniel6644 | and there are many deps |
| 00:56.30 | foobaru | g-zus: interesting |
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| 00:56.42 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: what official bumblebee repo |
| 00:56.44 | g-zus | foobaru: I wish it was ;-) |
| 00:57.31 | foobaru | g-zus: if you kill X will it let you do it then? |
| 00:57.34 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, http://bumblebee-project.org/ |
| 00:57.38 | daniel6644 | the repo is on there |
| 00:57.43 | daniel6644 | and much of the info you need |
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| 00:59.59 | g-zus | foobaru: by killing X, do you mean gdm3 stop ? |
| 01:00.09 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: you wind up here http://suwako.nomanga.net/ |
| 01:00.19 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: and i used those instructions |
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| 01:01.15 | foobaru | if you're using gdm, killing X will just cause gdm to respawn it. You'll need to disable gdm first and then kill X. By kill X, I mean killing the Xorg process which should drop you to console. |
| 01:02.17 | foobaru | g-zus: you can kill X with 'killall Xorg' (it may need sudo) |
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| 01:02.39 | g-zus | sure. let me test it |
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| 01:06.35 | e2580 | hi, anyone know a rule based way i can control my media player, example, if id tag for artist contains "justin bieber", then skip next track? Im using clementine for a media player, i may be open to other players that support this but i prefer a generic approach. |
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| 01:06.51 | g-zus | killall Xorg, respawned X immediately; I logged in and |
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| 01:07.10 | g-zus | tried pkill gdm |
| 01:07.21 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, did you install the bumblebee-nvidia package and all the deps listed on my first link? |
| 01:07.42 | g-zus | that killed x in its entirety. I didn't get any login prompt or shell |
| 01:07.47 | g-zus | no terminal as active |
| 01:08.00 | foobaru | g-zus: from there did you have to reboot? |
| 01:08.15 | rambda | hello, have a problem with a squeeze server. It crashes while samba is receiving large files. |
| 01:08.25 | g-zus | rebooting into recovery mode, leaves me in that mode where there is no terminals(and worse, no reaction to power button or ctrl-alt-del) |
| 01:08.37 | rambda | There are no logs indicating what the problem is before it stops, it just...stops |
| 01:08.42 | g-zus | foobaru: correct |
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| 01:09.54 | foobaru | g-zus: That's really very strange. My advice would be to disable gdm from starting at all on boot which -should- drop you directly into a console login prompt. |
| 01:10.09 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, ok thats the repo but those instructions are not complete |
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| 01:10.54 | g-zus | foobaru: I suppose the recovery mode is equivalent to that isn't it? |
| 01:12.22 | foobaru | g-zus: Not exactly, because recovery mode is single-user mode so it wouldn't really be possible to nail down your problem |
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| 01:13.26 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: not complete how? |
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| 01:13.49 | Yoshi1 | daniel6644: it got bumble working on my sstem |
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| 01:14.05 | g-zus | foobaru: but it should still drop me into a login prompt even on a single user, right? :) |
| 01:14.13 | foobaru | g-zus: Oh, yes, it should |
| 01:14.27 | foobaru | g-zus: Misunderstood that you weren't getting a prompt |
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| 01:14.34 | foobaru | g-zus: in recovery mode |
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| 01:15.31 | foobaru | g-zus: No idea then. :( |
| 01:15.42 | g-zus | I get the same behaviour when in multi-user X and press ctrl-alt-fX as I get when I boot into recovery with the only difference being that if X is running the alt-f7 will bring me back to X and the ctrl-alt-del works throughout (as does the power button) :) |
| 01:15.53 | daniel6644 | Yoshi1, correct. sorry I meant for your purpose |
| 01:15.57 | g-zus | foobaru: no problem, I appreciate your suggestions ;-) |
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| 01:16.30 | foobaru | g-zus: There's no X in single user, so X isn't the problem at least. |
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| 01:16.33 | g-zus | it's not a huge deal, but, I hope to find a solution :) |
| 01:17.09 | foobaru | g-zus: good luck, maybe some google-fu will bring up something eventually |
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| 01:18.19 | chalcedony | does anyone know if Linux can do 24 bit 192k sound? |
| 01:18.36 | chalcedony | i'm on debian squeeze if it matters |
| 01:18.43 | g-zus | the google-fu was my first resort (it might be that the problem is that I don't even know how to express the problem in a way that will squeeze the best out of google :) |
| 01:20.15 | abrotman | chalcedony: withwhich encoding? |
| 01:20.19 | abrotman | and play or create? |
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| 01:21.09 | chalcedony | abrotman, my friend plays that, he says it is the optimal sound, i have no idea really |
| 01:21.19 | foobaru | g-zus: try setting nomodeset boot option |
| 01:21.24 | abrotman | chalcedony: that's silly .. but okay |
| 01:21.36 | g-zus | foobaru: will do,I think I just ran into the same forum post as you ;-) |
| 01:21.36 | abrotman | chalcedony: you still haven't given an encoding type |
| 01:21.46 | foobaru | g-zus: could be :) |
| 01:21.47 | abrotman | chalcedony: mp3? ogg? flac? |
| 01:21.47 | chalcedony | abrotman, i'm not sure how to answer |
| 01:22.14 | chalcedony | ah he plays windows media player |
| 01:22.34 | abrotman | chalcedony: still doesn't ansewr the queestion :) |
| 01:22.36 | zoredache | chalcedony: are you talking about a 192k sample frequency, or a 192 bit rate? |
| 01:23.03 | abrotman | chalcedony: and honestly, if you can't tell, it doesn't matter |
| 01:23.08 | chalcedony | i had to get a new sound card, not installed : Roswill CMedia PCI Sound Card - RC-701 |
| 01:23.30 | g-zus | thanks :) let me see how it goes |
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| 01:25.52 | chalcedony | abrotman, he says doesn't matter, mp3 and says "he should know what it means" .. gotta love it |
| 01:26.05 | abrotman | chalcedony: so he can't explain .. but i'm supposed to know? |
| 01:26.18 | abrotman | chalcedony: WMP is a crappy player, but it plays many formats |
| 01:26.20 | chalcedony | abrotman, i'm sure i'm just a bad interface |
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| 01:26.54 | chalcedony | <him> linux can either do or not do 24 bit 192k sound or not |
| 01:26.57 | abrotman | chalcedony: i've done 128/192/256 |
| 01:27.02 | zoredache | chalcedony: from what I am reading that card uses a CMI8738, which supports a max sample rate of 48k from what I read from the spec. |
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| 01:27.14 | chalcedony | zoredache, ty ty :) |
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| 01:27.17 | abrotman | zoredache: that's direct input though |
| 01:27.24 | zoredache | chalcedony: the answer to the question is, depends on the specific driver of course. |
| 01:27.34 | Towzzer | humans can only hear up to about 44Khz |
| 01:27.35 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.41 | abrotman | zoredache: if he's encoding direct from CD to MP3 or OGG, he can probably get 384kbps |
| 01:28.10 | abrotman | chalcedony: but your 'friend' still hasn't specified a format, which has much to do with it |
| 01:28.22 | chalcedony | abrotman, maybe not to him |
| 01:28.44 | abrotman | chalcedony: then he is just spouting nonsense .. good luck :) |
| 01:28.46 | zoredache | abrotman, I am talking about sample rate, not bit rate. The sample rate is how many times the digital to analog conversion is done per second. The bit rate is the size of each sample. |
| 01:29.16 | abrotman | erm, 320, not 384 |
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| 01:29.37 | abrotman | zoredache: 24bit 192kbps seems pretty average to me |
| 01:29.40 | chalcedony | he's not really a geek ;) |
| 01:29.46 | abrotman | chalcedony: apparently not |
| 01:30.31 | chalcedony | ill be able to get that card to work on debian? |
| 01:30.49 | abrotman | chalcedony: you should test him .. do one at 128kbps, another at 192kbps .. play them at different volumes, etc .. |
| 01:30.55 | abrotman | chalcedony: i'm sure you can get that card to work . |
| 01:31.20 | chalcedony | good, i might reboot someday and install it then |
| 01:31.46 | abrotman | okay |
| 01:31.55 | zoredache | chalcedony: this suggests yes, that should be supported. http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/651 |
| 01:32.51 | chalcedony | <him> ask them this, then: if you installed a sound card in a linux system that could do 24bit 192k sound can linux make the card sound withthose capabilities or will it down rend it to a lower sound quality? |
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| 01:34.21 | foobaru | chalcedony: I'm guessing that would depend on the available drivers... |
| 01:35.05 | chalcedony | can it play files that are 24 bit at 24 bit? |
| 01:35.25 | chalcedony | i guess we have to see what works? |
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| 01:37.26 | abrotman | chalcedony: you might get a better answer from #alsa |
| 01:37.38 | abrotman | they'd be responsible for most of the drivers . .they may also laugh at your friend |
| 01:37.49 | zoredache | chalcedony: I vaguely recall an episode a couple years back on the FLOSS podcast where Leo had a guest on talking about high-end audio recording. As in using ~$2,000 audio cards with insanely high sample rates and bit rates. I think I remeber them saying the kernel supported it fine, but software support for the obscure rates were less common. |
| 01:38.20 | chalcedony | zoredache, great answer thanks :) |
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| 01:39.23 | chalcedony | friend is a big name drummer, retired - he knows music |
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| 01:40.09 | abrotman | chalcedony: it sounds like someone told him what should sound best and he regurgitated .. I've heard that same "this is the best" .. and then 99% of the listeners can't tell the difference |
| 01:40.21 | abrotman | chalcedony: to be fair, that was the recommended setting 10 years ago too :) |
| 01:40.51 | chalcedony | :) |
| 01:40.56 | chalcedony | *he* can hear it.. |
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| 01:41.29 | chalcedony | <him> chal: lol some of the HD stuff I play on my stream is over 1200khz |
| 01:41.44 | abrotman | chalcedony: sure .. i bet he can .. good luck |
| 01:41.58 | zoredache | If you are just ripping cds or whatever, and you have the storage space, just go lossless. |
| 01:42.14 | chalcedony | all i do is let it play |
| 01:42.29 | abrotman | thinks someone is getting units of measure mixed up |
| 01:42.33 | chalcedony | he likes me to appreciate it |
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| 01:43.22 | chalcedony | <him> can linux do not play 24 bit sound? |
| 01:43.23 | chalcedony | <him> if Linux plays a 24 bit file at 8 bits it is not playing the filke as intended |
| 01:43.23 | abrotman | chalcedony: i'd really ask #alsa if all he cares about is numbers |
| 01:43.50 | zoredache | chalcedony: lets say it this way. The Redbook audio standard (CD quality) is sampled at 44khz, and has a smple rate of 1,411,200 bits per/s. With 16 bits per channel. |
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| 01:44.13 | zoredache | I think he is mixing up sample rate with bit rate when he tells you he listens at 1200khz. |
| 01:44.29 | abrotman | zoredache: or frequency of instrument? |
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| 01:44.47 | chalcedony | zoredache, 16 bit vs 24 bits is important to him |
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| 01:44.58 | chalcedony | he wants the sampling at 24 bits |
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| 01:46.51 | zoredache | abrotman: human hearing maxes out at ~20k. There is no way that a human hears 1200khz. If it was just 1200hz, the that is a Eb6. |
| 01:47.14 | abrotman | zoredache: I'm juust pointing it could be what he's referring to .. i wasn't implying the guy wasn't crazy :) |
| 01:47.24 | chalcedony | hehehe |
| 01:47.26 | abrotman | notes the alsa-wiki is out of date, badly |
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| 01:47.45 | chalcedony | <him> can you get a 24 bit sound card to work in linux possibly yes will it give you 24 bit sound? possibly no |
| 01:48.00 | abrotman | chalcedony: for the fifth time .. ask #alsa |
| 01:48.28 | chalcedony | abrotman, ty .. i hope someone answers there |
| 01:48.45 | abrotman | chalcedony: they should .. they should know the best answer for your audiophile |
| 01:49.42 | chalcedony | abrotman, in years past there have been really remarkable people in #alsa - i imagine like everyone they take a few minutes away from the keyboard too |
| 01:49.53 | abrotman | not today! |
| 01:50.43 | chalcedony | one never knows |
| 01:51.26 | zoredache | chalcedony: you could also go ask on askubuntu.com, a mail list or something. That way your question and answer will exist for other people to find in the future. |
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| 01:51.44 | chalcedony | zoredache, and they can laugh too? |
| 01:51.45 | abailarri | Does anyone know what I can do to run my laptop's webcam? I can not!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:52.15 | chalcedony | abailarri, take a slow deep breath, this too shall pass. what kind of laptop? |
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| 01:53.29 | abailarri | chalcedony, is a MSI fx600mx |
| 01:57.30 | chalcedony | abailarri, hopefully someone here can use that info to be more helpful to you than i can be |
| 01:58.18 | abrotman | abailarri: what is 'uname -a' ? |
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| 01:59.38 | abailarri | abrotman, Linux abailarri 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.35-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 02:01.14 | abrotman | abailarri: pastebin "lspci -nn ; lsusb -vv" |
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| 02:02.50 | abailarri | abrotman, the first command http://pastebin.com/DnhsYXy9 |
| 02:03.27 | abailarri | and the second http://pastebin.com/tMwpUmRv |
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| 02:05.07 | abrotman | doesn't see a webcam in either paste? |
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| 02:05.43 | abailarri | no? |
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| 02:06.06 | abrotman | abailarri: you might want to run "update-pciids;update-usbids" and try again |
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| 02:08.30 | caf | it's possible that the webcam has an ACPI soft-switch before it appears on the bus |
| 02:08.33 | abailarri | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/exhGDn1f http://pastebin.com/U9sUki77 |
| 02:08.46 | abrotman | caf: yeah, i kow |
| 02:09.42 | abrotman | abailarri: is there a Fn switch to turn it off/on ? |
| 02:12.49 | abailarri | abrotman, I¡m a stupid!!! |
| 02:14.14 | chalcedony | abailarri, probably not, or you wouldn't be here |
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| 02:14.58 | abrotman | abailarri: ? |
| 02:15.21 | abailarri | abrotman, fixed |
| 02:15.32 | abailarri | was this |
| 02:15.37 | abailarri | the fn key |
| 02:15.46 | abailarri | thanks |
| 02:15.58 | chalcedony | awesome |
| 02:16.23 | abrotman | enjoy |
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| 02:20.51 | Yoshi1 | if i am going to run the nvidia.run file what should i chmox +x it to? |
| 02:21.06 | abrotman | cringes |
| 02:21.14 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: what |
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| 02:22.49 | Yoshi1 | i never really understood the meaning of the numbers for chmod |
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| 02:26.37 | Cyclohexane | How do you tcpdump to a file? |
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| 02:27.35 | asr33 | tcpdump > file |
| 02:27.50 | Cyclohexane | asr33: there should be a tcpdump option though right? |
| 02:28.02 | jagginess | Yoshi1, 4=read, 2,=write, 1=execute, chmod 777 file == rwxrwxrwx, chmod 666 == rw-rw-rw- |
| 02:28.15 | asr33 | `` |
| 02:28.27 | abrotman | Cyclohexane: there is, did you look at the man page .. i think it only works for raw packets though |
| 02:28.48 | asr33 | ` |
| 02:28.53 | asr33 | sorry |
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| 02:29.21 | Cyclohexane | abrotman: it's a big man page :p |
| 02:29.27 | abrotman | you can search it |
| 02:29.58 | Yoshi1 | jagginess: thanks |
| 02:30.03 | Cyclohexane | abrotman: I tried -w but it printed binary data |
| 02:30.23 | Yoshi1 | but why 3 rwx's |
| 02:30.50 | Cyclohexane | Yoshi1: usergroups |
| 02:30.50 | LtL | Yoshi1: user group others |
| 02:30.52 | jagginess | Yoshi1, _ _ _ u g o ( user, group, other ) ( 7 , 7 , 7 ) |
| 02:31.11 | jagginess | Yoshi1, chmod 750, == rwxr-x--- |
| 02:31.20 | abrotman | Cyclohexane: i just said, it writes raw packets |
| 02:31.30 | abrotman | !tell jagginess about permissions |
| 02:31.46 | Yoshi1 | ah thanks |
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| 02:34.21 | stty_ | Olá |
| 02:34.59 | stty_ | alguém ai pode me ajudar? |
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| 02:44.21 | Yoshi1 | ok that was unusual the nvidia driver install said i didnt have a compatable GPU |
| 02:44.33 | enkidu | guys, I cant start hostapd as service. It is clean debian install |
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| 02:46.06 | gnarface | Yoshi1: i assume you were using the official nvidia's script because you already tried the version packaged in debian ? |
| 02:47.24 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: yes |
| 02:47.49 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: and theres the issue with my hdmi port which i cant seem to get activated |
| 02:48.15 | gnarface | Yoshi1: what does lspci say again? |
| 02:48.28 | abrotman | gnarface: optimus |
| 02:48.51 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: http://paste.debian.net/228039/ |
| 02:48.59 | roboman2444 | "./teleglitch64: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./teleglitch64)" |
| 02:49.05 | roboman2444 | how do i fix? |
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| 02:49.54 | Yoshi1 | i forsee that becomming an increasing problem/bad word for the next year or two |
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| 02:50.56 | Yoshi1 | because i dont forsee laptop makers doing anything but using it more and more since it increases batterylife |
| 02:51.42 | abrotman | or don't support nvidia .. a much better option |
| 02:52.18 | Yoshi1 | like ati wont wind up doing something similar |
| 02:52.29 | abrotman | did i say to buy AMD? |
| 02:52.41 | Yoshi1 | no |
| 02:52.56 | dvs | S3! |
| 02:53.10 | Yoshi1 | but really theres as far as i know only 3 real choices for graphics ati nvidia or intel integrated |
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| 02:53.20 | abrotman | dvs: heck year! |
| 02:53.22 | abrotman | yeah |
| 02:53.26 | dvs | heh |
| 02:53.29 | Yoshi1 | whats S3? |
| 02:53.46 | abrotman | dvs: the power in an S3 is amazing |
| 02:53.53 | Yoshi1 | whats an S3 |
| 02:54.07 | abrotman | Yoshi1: are you banned from Google? |
| 02:54.14 | abrotman | based on the questions you ask here, it would seem so |
| 02:54.39 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: no but one letter and one number on google? are you nuts i'll get 3 billion search entries |
| 02:54.49 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 02:55.57 | Yoshi1 | hmmm interesting |
| 02:56.07 | Yoshi1 | but how come i never see this in any laptops i can buy commercially? |
| 02:59.08 | gnarface | Yoshi1: run this command, tell me what it outputs: lspci -vnn | grep '\''[030[02]\]' |
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| 03:00.13 | Yoshi1 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 03:00.13 | Yoshi1 | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] |
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| 03:02.20 | sney | that wasn't -vnn |
| 03:02.20 | Towzzer | hi folks |
| 03:02.51 | gnarface | Yoshi1: and which version of the nvidia drivers did you try to install? |
| 03:03.29 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: the one on the nvidia page for 540m linux 64 bit |
| 03:03.42 | Yoshi1 | 310.32 |
| 03:04.56 | gnarface | Yoshi1: which kernel version? |
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| 03:05.58 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: off hand dont know |
| 03:06.12 | gnarface | Yoshi1: uname -a |
| 03:06.53 | Yoshi1 | Linux Yoshi-PKD 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.35-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 03:07.35 | gnarface | Yoshi1: did you happen to read the nvidia driver's README.txt on the notes about HDMI? |
| 03:07.55 | gnarface | Yoshi1: just scanning through it i see a couple potential diagnosis for your problem |
| 03:08.13 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: for the stuff in the repo? no |
| 03:08.21 | Yoshi1 | didnt know there was one |
| 03:08.29 | gnarface | Yoshi1: it should be /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz for the packaged nvidia driver. |
| 03:09.03 | gnarface | Yoshi1: in general, if you don't know where else to look in fact, on any issue, or where to start on configuring any package, read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/[package name] |
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| 03:14.38 | gnarface | Yoshi1: you should pay particular attention to the note about "HDMI screen blanks unless audio is played" and information about enabling twin-view/tv-out in conjunction with appendix C (display device names) |
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| 03:17.19 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: *nods* |
| 03:18.37 | gnarface | Yoshi1: i'm taking off for a while. good luck |
| 03:21.06 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: laters |
| 03:22.11 | un214 | which dpkg has banner? |
| 03:22.31 | sney | what? |
| 03:22.55 | un214 | '$ banner hi' should print hi in large text |
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| 03:24.27 | un214 | !package bsdmainutils |
| 03:24.52 | abrotman | not quite |
| 03:24.54 | nkuttler | !tell un214 about search |
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| 03:26.12 | un214 | nkuttler: apt-cache search doesn't find a useful answer except for figlet (ewww) |
| 03:26.37 | jpinx | un214: $aptitude search banner |
| 03:26.37 | nkuttler | un214: you want apt-file |
| 03:26.55 | abrotman | or read the factoid about searching .. |
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| 03:28.21 | un214 | problem might be apt-file was way out of date |
| 03:28.57 | [[franco]][[off] | holas , como estan ? |
| 03:29.29 | jpinx | !es |
| 03:29.29 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 03:29.56 | jpinx | * [[franco]][[off] ^^^ |
| 03:30.16 | [[franco]][[off] | jpnix :)* de donde es la red? |
| 03:30.22 | un214 | ah yes now apt-file search banner | grep bin works |
| 03:30.48 | jpinx | * [[franco]][[off] /join #debian-es |
| 03:30.50 | abrotman | un214: FWIW, apt-file search bin/banner |
| 03:31.02 | [[franco]][[off] | [jpinx] ok |
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| 03:31.08 | un214 | figures |
| 03:31.57 | lasers | Hi. May I have dpkg's factoid to pull in fresh /etc/ files? |
| 03:32.09 | un214 | which ones? |
| 03:32.35 | abrotman | !tell lasers about confnew |
| 03:32.53 | lasers | abrotman: Thank you very much, sir. |
| 03:34.07 | [[franco]][[off] | alguien sabe algo de ddos ? o botnet |
| 03:35.11 | abrotman | [[franco]][[off]: english here |
| 03:35.16 | jpinx | * [[franco]][[off] no hablamos español por acqui |
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| 03:35.36 | [[franco]][[off] | ok! |
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| 03:40.28 | un214 | I don't suppose there's a good way to tell dpgk that I don't want foreign language man pages? |
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| 03:46.40 | cardamon | Is there a pretend or simulate option for dpkg? |
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| 03:47.21 | abrotman | did you look in the man page? |
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| 03:48.40 | cardamon | Ah, simulate. I scanned visually, I didn't see it buried. |
| 03:49.12 | abrotman | cardamon: you can use / to search |
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| 03:52.23 | subb1 | hi debian. |
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| 03:52.34 | jpinx | using xrandr in squeeze is there a way to put tty7 to my external monitor and tty1 to the eeepc screen - and get the resolutions correct ? |
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| 03:55.14 | subb1 | Currently we have 5.x version running on our server. I' want to upgrade to debian6. But there are company mysql database server and apache running that are critical. Is there a suggested way for upgrade on a live system like this? |
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| 03:55.36 | Towzzer | you can't stop mysql? |
| 03:55.39 | Towzzer | do not upgrade then |
| 03:55.57 | abrotman | subb1: schedule downtime |
| 03:56.44 | un214 | how much downtime can you tolerate? |
| 03:56.45 | Towzzer | I'd leave it alone |
| 03:56.57 | kdns | I hope someone can help with approx? I get this error when trying to run approx-import: There are no Packages files in the approx cache. Please run "apt-get update" first. ........... but I have run it, and there are files in that path. |
| 03:57.05 | abrotman | Towzzer: that's horrible advice |
| 03:57.32 | abrotman | kdns: uhm, when I did it, I just setup the apt sources, and then ran 'aptitude update' on a client pointing at it |
| 03:57.47 | subb1 | a max of 5 hours is permissible for downtime. Its our ticketing system that is there :) |
| 03:58.03 | abrotman | subb1: so you can stage the download, etc |
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| 03:58.14 | abrotman | make sure you read the upgrade notes |
| 03:58.21 | un214 | abrotman: exactly |
| 03:58.31 | un214 | and I'll bet you know the command to tell apt-get to stop after downloading |
| 03:58.43 | abrotman | un214: man apt-get |
| 03:58.54 | subb1 | great. the upgrade notes you mentioned is this? |
| 03:58.56 | subb1 | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-uptodate.en.html#s-aptitude-upgrade |
| 03:59.06 | abrotman | !tell subb1 about release notes |
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| 03:59.58 | un214 | I once had apt-get autoremove break my system |
| 04:00.21 | abrotman | un214: you break your system all the time .. I'm going with operator error :) |
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| 04:01.00 | un214 | it turns out that some libraries aren't binary compatible with previous versions and I'd compiled and installed programs in /usr/local |
| 04:01.02 | kdns | abrotman: I'm not that far through, yet... I have lots of updates on the server, and I am trying to use the apt cache contents, to populate the approx cache, using approx-import.... |
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| 04:01.34 | kdns | That way, when I update from the client, it will not have to download the same packages that I've already got on this box |
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| 04:01.41 | abrotman | kdns: oh, uhm .. I hadn't done that |
| 04:01.54 | abrotman | kdns: i'm surprised you can't just copy them in ... |
| 04:02.08 | abrotman | kdns: oh, you might have to run aptitude update first so it knows what you're trying to copy in ? |
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| 04:03.53 | kdns | abrotman: thanks man I tried, no luck.... |
| 04:04.23 | subb1 | thanks abrotman. Also, in case of mysql, its better to dump all the DBs and then restore it on the newer mysql version right? |
| 04:04.46 | abrotman | subb1: if the data matters, you sohuld surely dump it .. just in case, right ? |
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| 04:05.00 | abrotman | but i believe it's supposed to be able to upgrade in place |
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| 04:06.03 | subb1 | yea, as you said, I'll dump it. Wrt to apache, backing up virtual host config files would be enough I guess? abrotman :) |
| 04:06.03 | abrotman | kdns: do you have to restart the approx process? |
| 04:06.25 | abrotman | subb1: config files should be enough, I'd think .. it's not my setup, can't 100% say |
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| 04:06.56 | subb1 | no worries abrotman. your insight was helpful. |
| 04:07.30 | daniel6644 | Hey Guys, I need to add this repo http://code.google.com/p/gma500/wiki/PPARepository but debian does not seem to recognize add-apt-repository commands |
| 04:07.39 | abrotman | daniel6644: PPAs are not for Debian |
| 04:08.20 | daniel6644 | is there a way to use it.. i need it for my driver |
| 04:08.43 | abrotman | add it manually .. |
| 04:08.59 | daniel6644 | ok... I tried but what would the comoplete manual url be? |
| 04:09.01 | abrotman | sees gma500 drivers in the 3.2 kernel in wheezy |
| 04:09.03 | daniel6644 | I tried adding in syanptic |
| 04:09.18 | kdns | abrotman: did that too, no joy... I think I may have come across the answer, give me a minute to test before I share the fix :) |
| 04:09.35 | abrotman | kdns: okay, but i'm off to bed .. i'm a sleepy old fart :) |
| 04:10.07 | daniel6644 | I need this driver. the ones in kernal dont work at all |
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| 04:10.19 | kdns | Hahah sleep well mate, I'll post the answer in here for the logbots and future approx users... if it works :) |
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| 04:11.55 | secher | Just a quick question. my NIC is Gb but is running at 100Mb. I'm using 'ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full advertise 1000' |
| 04:11.59 | secher | Any one know why that command is completely stopping a gigabit NIC? So bad i have to reboot? |
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| 04:12.43 | debbie_ | i have a partition running ubuntu. if I install debian, can I keep my /home partition exactly how it is? |
| 04:13.00 | un214 | debbie_: yes |
| 04:13.55 | debbie_ | un214, when i mark my /home as the one I use now, i just don't format and it will work out? |
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| 04:14.08 | secher | un214: that was almost anti-climactic. COuldn't you demand more informatoin or something? |
| 04:14.23 | un214 | personally I'd not mount it until after install |
| 04:14.46 | un214 | secher: look I used to run ubuntu in a chroot jail of debain. I should know. |
| 04:15.12 | debbie_ | un214, when I install debian, don't I have to designate a /home? |
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| 04:15.46 | un214 | no. If you don't it will use / as /home |
| 04:15.51 | un214 | which you can mount on top of later |
| 04:16.41 | debbie_ | un214, how would i do that |
| 04:17.26 | un214 | editing /etc/fstab |
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| 04:18.28 | debbie_ | un214, well I guess I'll cross that bridge after the install. thank you |
| 04:18.47 | un214 | incidentally fdisk -l lists partitions |
| 04:19.36 | debbie_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.40 | cxz | Hey Guys, I can't seem to do an automated install of grub-pc/grub2 to a wheezy install because of the user prompt that pops up |
| 04:19.44 | cxz | does anyone know of a workaround? |
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| 04:34.18 | Yoshi1 | gnarface: hey you there? |
| 04:34.55 | Towzzer | yoshi :D |
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| 04:37.47 | kdns_ | for the googlers or any other lurkers who were waiting on the answer....... |
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| 04:38.43 | derpyeah | hi |
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| 04:39.13 | derpyeah | I'm in debian sid and I'm wondering about how to get fbxkb to detect other keyboard layouts in Openbox |
| 04:39.18 | kdns_ | You can only import a package to the approx cache, after approx is aware of the package. that means, you have to setup a CLIENT which points to your new approx server, and run apt-get update ON THAT, to give the cache a list of the packages. Then, you can run approx-import to import your existing packages |
| 04:39.51 | derpyeah | I managed to get the Us flag error fixed but I noticed that there is no Xorg.conf |
| 04:40.20 | derpyeah | In most other forums, they reccomend adding some lines to the input device area of xorg.conf |
| 04:40.34 | Yoshi1 | whenever i manage to get xrandr to set a mode for HDMI1 my laptop screen goes blank |
| 04:40.53 | derpyeah | Since debian lacks a xorg.conf, how can I input the required fix? |
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| 04:41.54 | un214 | derpyeah: you make an xorg.conf with just the fix and its surrounding section lines |
| 04:42.22 | derpyeah | What do you mean by surrounding lines? |
| 04:42.36 | derpyeah | What happens if I leave the rest blank? |
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| 04:42.47 | un214 | works for me. dunno for you |
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| 04:43.14 | un214 | the section lines are SectionBegin and SectionEnd so that the fix line is in the right place in the record |
| 04:43.40 | ratcheer | you must have the header and footer lines for the section |
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| 04:46.48 | Yoshi1 | how do i tell xrandr to set HDMI1 to the new mode without shutting off my laptops screen? |
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| 05:20.29 | somiaj | Yoshi1: read the xrandr man page or use a gui front end. I belive you just need to turn both displays on and tell one to be to the --right-of the other (or what ever direction you prefer) |
| 05:20.51 | somiaj | Yoshi1: There are gui front ends for this you can just do this all visually |
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| 05:21.34 | somiaj | Yoshi1: you could also paste the xrandr command you are pasting (though I'd hve to turn on my laptop to compare it to what I know works for me) |
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| 05:22.52 | Yoshi1 | somiaj: thats the problem though i cant get front ends to see the display even when i set up a mode for it |
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| 05:24.36 | somiaj | what does xrandr -q say about the display |
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| 05:47.40 | ddalton | hey guys trying to buy a new laptop. was wndering if compatibility with the latest macbook air is any good on debian? or am I best to stick with thinkpads? |
| 05:50.53 | civillian | I have a UPS app that requires java to run, but my server doesn't run X. Is there a way to run a slim X that I can use for X11 forwarding to another box? |
| 05:51.10 | civillian | or do I need the full X packages |
| 05:51.18 | krisfremen | civillian: Xvfb |
| 05:51.34 | krisfremen | civillian: or a vncserver will emulate an X environment |
| 05:51.40 | civillian | krisfremen: thanks, that was going to be my next attempt |
| 05:51.46 | civillian | hmm interesting |
| 05:51.58 | civillian | so either / or, not both? |
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| 05:52.21 | krisfremen | civillian: yeah, choose which one oyu want.. |
| 05:52.30 | cantido | means having an xserver running all the time, not great :/ |
| 05:52.36 | krisfremen | you'll have to run something like x11vnc in order to see Xvfb anyway |
| 05:52.46 | krisfremen | there is no xserver |
| 05:52.47 | civillian | cantido: agreed, this is the Liebert UPS app |
| 05:52.52 | civillian | it's java poo |
| 05:53.07 | cantido | krisfremen: xvfb and vnc are x servers |
| 05:53.19 | cantido | otherwise how to x clients use them to display stuff? |
| 05:53.32 | krisfremen | yes, but not full blown xservers |
| 05:53.41 | cantido | civillian: java can run headless too, are you sure there isn't some switch to disable the ui? |
| 05:54.04 | civillian | cantido: I'm not sure yet, I haven't played with the app much |
| 05:54.11 | cantido | civillian: you could always reverse engineer the client and write your own (it's probably some libraries wrapped with JNI anyhow) |
| 05:54.27 | civillian | but I need graceful shutdown, perhaps apcupsd might be of some use |
| 05:55.04 | cantido | badly wants a UPS |
| 05:56.07 | civillian | thanks for all the tips guys, I will try them all. |
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| 05:58.29 | cantido | civillian: is it usb? |
| 06:00.23 | jelly-home | nut seems to have support for _some_ liebert devices |
| 06:00.40 | cantido | if apcupsd doesn't support it I would be really tempted to sniff it's traffic or take the java client apart and write something.. Seems like a real arse to have to have an x server and Java around just to drive a ups |
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| 06:06.01 | ddalton | anyone around who can help with macbook compatibility with debian. is getting macbook a bad idea? |
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| 06:08.17 | cantido | ddalton: There is a page on the debian wiki about using debian with macbooks.. I used to use debian on one in ~2007 and it was ok. The EFI firmware was a bit of a pain |
| 06:08.38 | cantido | ddalton: unless you must have something that looks like a mac a normal laptop will be cheaper and faster |
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| 06:21.19 | ddalton | cantido: yeah the macs look pretty nice must say. but it seems they are a similar price to lenovo thinkpad x230 anyway which is my altrnative. |
| 06:21.42 | ddalton | and they are a really good size. |
| 06:21.55 | ddalton | do u find most of the hardware works ok? |
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| 06:28.23 | karsten | I stumbled across it a few months back, can't recall the name now. |
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| 06:49.45 | kououken | Is there a simple way to add a long pause into the bootup sequence? I'd like to delay the system startup for a minute or two before it tries to do networking/dhcp stuff. |
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| 07:12.32 | ChrisH | kououken: why? |
| 07:12.51 | Yoshi1 | kououken: yeah why would yoou want to do that |
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| 07:18.40 | kououken | Yoshi1: I have multiple virtual servers, and the DNS/DHCP server needs to start up first, with the others coming a minute or so later. |
| 07:19.28 | kououken | Yoshi1: I could script the startup of these machines, but adding a boot switch or something would be a lot simpler. |
| 07:19.33 | ChrisH | kououken: Can't you modify/optimize the startup order? What virtualisation is used? |
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| 07:20.03 | e2580 | hi, anyone know a rule based way i can control my media player, example, if id tag for artist contains "justin bieber", then skip next track? Im using clementine for a media player, i may be open to other players that support this but i prefer a generic approach. |
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| 07:20.21 | kououken | libvirt through a management gui, so I'm not too familiar with scripting it all manually. |
| 07:20.24 | ChrisH | kououken: might me simpler, but will cause less pain on the long run. Each reboot will take the 1-2min delay |
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| 07:20.58 | kououken | ChrisH: I only reboot once in a blue moon, so it's no problem. Do you know how to do this? |
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| 07:25.15 | ChrisH | kououken: If you use the plain SystemV startup you can add a Sxxwaiter script into rcX.d directory. Check where the network/dhcp stuff gets done, eg: grep -li dhcp /etc/rc?.d/S* |
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| 07:28.14 | niklaswe | can someone recomend an nice and user friendly wiki, I mean so you dont need to write "html" codes to edit a pages, The wiki is for ours sales.. |
| 07:28.22 | Nero19 | how do you properly setup sources.list ? following: http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList , I get "binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 not found" |
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| 07:30.55 | kououken | niklaswe: You might look into Dokuwiki. I've used it for many projects over the years and has worked wonderfully. https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki |
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| 07:33.08 | niklaswe | kououken: will take a look, right now we are using mediawiki, but then complaining about the syntax.. :( |
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| 07:36.45 | kououken | niklaswe: I started with MediaWiki, but the table syntax in particular was a royal pita. Dokuwiki has much cleaner and legible syntax in my opinion. The feature set is slightly different, but if it covers what you need I would recommend it. Check out the features and syntax on their website: https://www.dokuwiki.org/wiki:syntax |
| 07:37.14 | Nero19 | oh I missed one 'e' in squeeze |
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| 07:37.47 | kououken | niklaswe: Some wiki have column span, but very few have rowspan support. DokuWiki does a pretty good job at implementing this in a reasonable way. |
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| 07:39.45 | kououken | ChrisH: Alright, I think I've found the start process inside rc0.d/K07networking. Could I simply add a "sleep 2m" on the line before "ifup -a" ? |
| 07:40.10 | kououken | ChrisH: Maybe crude, but would it get the job done? |
| 07:40.13 | ChrisH | kououken: stop. ! told you to search in S* script! |
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| 07:41.24 | ChrisH | kououken: K is Kill (gets executed while shutdown) S is Start, get executed during Startup. And NO fiddleing in these scipt is not an option! Add your own script before. |
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| 07:41.44 | Nero19 | it seems that you can't install firefox from the regular debian source? |
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| 07:42.31 | ChrisH | Nero19: that seems to be right. use iceweasek instaed |
| 07:42.55 | kououken | ChrisH: Haha, ok I've learned a couple good things today! searching for dhcp didn't return anything, but I found it under networking this time. So the proper way would be adding my own script with a number lower than networking? |
| 07:42.55 | Nero19 | how would I install 'non-free' stuff like vlc, DVD support, etc |
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| 07:43.14 | kououken | ChrisH: under rcS.d now :) |
| 07:43.22 | ChrisH | kououken: ACK. |
| 07:43.57 | kououken | ChrisH: feel free to point me towards the right manual and I'll figure it out on my own. :) |
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| 07:44.14 | kououken | ChrisH: I'm just lacking the correct terminology to find a decent Google result. |
| 07:44.15 | Nero19 | weird, this stuff is old as hell |
| 07:44.19 | Nero19 | yet no updates.. |
| 07:45.17 | ChrisH | kououken: recheck using grep -li ifup /etc/rc?.d/S* |
| 07:45.36 | gnarface | Nero19: iceweasel |
| 07:45.44 | gnarface | Nero19: its the same thing (no really, its the same thing) |
| 07:45.55 | kououken | ChrisH: Ok, found S10ifupdown-clean, S12ifupdown, and S15networking |
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| 07:46.23 | ChrisH | kououken: check /etc/init.d/README |
| 07:46.56 | kououken | ChrisH: Aha! Now this will be helpful. |
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| 07:47.53 | Nero19 | gnarface: is stuff supposed to be this old?! |
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| 07:48.56 | gnarface | Nero19: yes. its called "stable" for a reason and you can't just freak out about version numbers because all the important security patches generally have been backported by the maintainers |
| 07:49.29 | ChrisH | !sns |
| 07:49.30 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 07:49.33 | gnarface | Nero19: additionally you can trust that uprades won't create API incompatibilities (a guarantee you can get from nowhere else) |
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| 07:51.14 | Nero19 | API who what |
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| 07:53.00 | jelly-home | !api |
| 07:53.00 | dpkg | methinks api is application programming interface. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface |
| 07:53.15 | jelly-home | not too helpful in the context |
| 07:53.28 | Nero19 | :/ |
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| 07:53.42 | Nero19 | anyway.. so the idea is "stable" = about 2011 |
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| 07:54.05 | ChrisH | ,v iceweasel |
| 07:54.07 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-11~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-16; squeeze: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-17; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.6esr-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; sid: 10.0.12esr-1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; experimental: |
| 07:54.08 | judd | 18.0.1-1 |
| 07:54.16 | Secutor | \join ##security |
| 07:54.29 | Nero19 | VLC is old, OpenOffice is old.. |
| 07:54.42 | Secutor | oops, sorry |
| 07:55.21 | ChrisH | Older Versions do not automatically mean: bad! If you are keen on newest Versionnumbers run Debian experimental |
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| 07:56.37 | Nero19 | OK, so moving on.. is there a simple way to install 4670 ATi drivers? |
| 07:56.44 | gnarface | check backports |
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| 07:56.58 | gnarface | otherwise, no idea |
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| 07:57.07 | gnarface | unless they're in non-free and you don't have it enabled |
| 07:57.09 | Nero19 | how do I get the backports? |
| 07:57.21 | gnarface | dpkg, tell Nero19 about backports |
| 07:57.59 | gnarface | Nero19: ask it about debian-backports i think |
| 07:58.40 | ChrisH | Nero19: I added to google: debian ati 4670 and the first hit is http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 08:00.04 | kououken | ChrisH: Ok, I've been through the debian policy pages on runlevels and init.d scripts, and I understand that all the startup and shutdown links in rc*.d point back to the actual files under /etc/init.d. If I modify the networking script, however, won't this be overwritten with any future updates? |
| 08:00.26 | Nero19 | ChrisH: " (Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 series) was dropped at fglrx-driver 1:12-6~beta-1.2. The latter are helped with the now separate package fglrx-legacy-driver. " |
| 08:00.39 | Nero19 | I suppose I try to install fglrx-legacy-driver ? |
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| 08:01.23 | ChrisH | kououken: yes will can be. Therefore I suggested to create your own script. And I yould not create it linked but directly into the corresponding directory. But thats up to you. |
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| 08:01.58 | Nero19 | it can't find that package.. |
| 08:02.33 | kououken | ChrisH: Ok, well at least I know where things are now and can manage if things change during an update. Thank you for your help! |
| 08:02.54 | kououken | gives ChrisH 1 internets. |
| 08:03.19 | gnarface | Nero19: check /etc/apt/sources.list and if you don't se "non-free" in there anywhere, ask the bot about non-free |
| 08:03.44 | Nero19 | !non-free |
| 08:03.45 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 08:04.05 | Nero19 | !non-free sources |
| 08:04.05 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 08:04.52 | gnarface | Nero19: you can /msg the bot privately in order to avoid spamming the rest of us with its output |
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| 08:05.43 | Nero19 | gnarface: so just add non-free to the end of backports? |
| 08:05.47 | Nero19 | main non-free |
| 08:06.28 | gnarface | Nero19: that might work but lots of stuff in non-free relies on contrib so you should add that too |
| 08:07.07 | gnarface | Nero19: i'm gonna go stuff my face with pizza now. i may be back later. good luck! |
| 08:07.19 | Nero19 | gnarface with or without jalapenos :D |
| 08:09.07 | Nero19 | either way I did everything I knew.. |
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| 08:09.50 | ChrisH | gnarface: Pizza at 9 o'clock in the morning.. ? |
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| 08:10.28 | ChrisH | Nero19: I add non-free and contrib by default during each installation. |
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| 08:11.25 | Nero19 | ChrisH: I give up, I'm gonna go on Xubuntu LTS |
| 08:13.27 | ChrisH | Nero19: Good Luck |
| 08:13.45 | Nero19 | yeah. I'm not sure why debian doesn't include all the sources needed for the user ? |
| 08:13.54 | Nero19 | (mirrors, etc) |
| 08:14.00 | cantido | Nero19: not everyone wants non-free |
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| 08:14.10 | Nero19 | for servers maybe |
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| 08:14.28 | ChrisH | Nero19: you get asked during installation to add contrib and non-free. And Debian stable is well suited for servers. |
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| 08:14.42 | jelly-home | Nero19: Debian tries to care about both the users, and the free software. Sometimes one comes at the expense of the other. |
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| 08:14.52 | Nero19 | ChrisH: the mirrors wouldn't work during install |
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| 08:14.56 | Nero19 | for some reason |
| 08:15.05 | Nero19 | I had to go back in and uncomment out security |
| 08:15.57 | Nero19 | it kept giving me a red page with a warning about continuing without a mirror |
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| 08:16.36 | ChrisH | Nero19: If you want to, define "the mirrors wouldn't work during install" I never had problems with any mirror during installation. Nor at home, in the office, at customers, at ... |
| 08:17.03 | Nero19 | ChrisH: I selected about 3 mirrors in the USA, and none of them would work |
| 08:17.16 | b0lt | !doesn't work |
| 08:17.16 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 08:17.19 | ChrisH | Nero19: You cannot install withput a mirror. Thats where the repos are. And debian offers mirrors around the world. |
| 08:17.19 | Nero19 | when it says "do you want to scan the mirror for updated packages" or whatever |
| 08:17.31 | Nero19 | ChrisH: none of them worked |
| 08:17.39 | Nero19 | !wouldn't connect to mirror |
| 08:17.50 | ChrisH | Nero19: then next time, switch to terminal 4 and check the errors shown. |
| 08:18.06 | Nero19 | Ctrl + Alt + F4 ? |
| 08:18.12 | b0lt | if you want |
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| 08:18.17 | b0lt | though ctrl isn't needed |
| 08:18.47 | ChrisH | Nero19: CTRL depends on graphical or non-graphical installation. |
| 08:19.08 | b0lt | people use graphical install? |
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| 08:19.25 | ChrisH | b0lt: I heard of the option to do it :) |
| 08:19.25 | Nero19 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=80657 |
| 08:19.33 | cantido | It's the default now isn't it? |
| 08:19.56 | b0lt | i installed wheezy recently without being pushed to do it, at least |
| 08:20.37 | ChrisH | Nero19: there no IP was assigned to the NIC (Network Interface Card) before |
| 08:20.50 | Nero19 | shrugs |
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| 08:43.12 | oo_miguel | where is the LANG environment variable set? |
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| 08:44.23 | oo_miguel | is it possible that it is differnt for my shell and for tasks run with crontab? |
| 08:44.54 | joltcan | Yes, I usually set it in .profile since different users might have different languages |
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| 08:45.25 | joltcan | oo_miguel: but you can set the default with dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 08:46.33 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: cat /etc/default/locale |
| 08:46.54 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: cat /etc/default/locale and it _can_ be differnt for anything. |
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| 08:50.37 | icarus | ok, so say you had a monitor screen that only displayed information |
| 08:50.46 | icarus | and you wanted to cycle through info screens |
| 08:51.01 | icarus | say, htop, jnettop, iotop, ttytter, etc |
| 08:51.07 | icarus | just cli apps |
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| 08:51.22 | icarus | im thinking like using a terminal multiplexer |
| 08:51.24 | icarus | like tmux |
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| 08:51.34 | icarus | and then have tmux open, with all of these apps in shell |
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| 08:54.18 | zentris | Does anyone have a good and perhaps more recent guide on setting a very light webserver with debian? I want to trim all the unneeded services, but I want to do it properly and not sure where to start. |
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| 08:55.43 | megha | is dpkg written in C language ? |
| 08:55.46 | Try | Hi there. I'm running haproxy on debian (2.6.26-2). I have some firewall (iptables) rules and connection tracking enabled. I somethimes have timeouts/high response rates on haproxy connections. When I disable iptables I don't have the issue. |
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| 08:56.06 | Try | My conntrack tables are _not_ full and I already did some tcp/udp tuning (sysctl) |
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| 08:56.23 | Try | Can someone give me some tips on how to troubleshoot, fix that ? |
| 08:56.58 | Try | And is it normal that iptables slows down a box ? |
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| 08:58.32 | tMH | greets to everyone! |
| 08:58.48 | tMH | ppl, I have debian 4.0 with no gcc, no working repositories installed. |
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| 08:59.13 | cantido | tMH: you might want to think about upgrading |
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| 08:59.41 | tMH | someone, tell me, what gcc version should I install - w/o upgrading system to 5.0 or later? |
| 09:00.15 | tMH | cantido - yes, I know, but I am not sure that system tools installed there will work again after upgrade;) |
| 09:00.25 | tMH | thats why I want to install gcc w/o upgrading. |
| 09:00.58 | xkaliber | Debian 4 uses gcc 4.1.1 |
| 09:01.06 | tMH | aha. |
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| 09:01.22 | cantido | you might be able to get something newer to compile from source |
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| 09:03.10 | tMH | should I download http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc-4.1.1.tar.bz2 and install it - or something else is needed? |
| 09:03.13 | tMH | like gcc++ etc? |
| 09:03.27 | cantido | tMH: that should have the whole collection |
| 09:03.35 | tMH | cantido - nice. Thanks! |
| 09:03.42 | tMH | xkaliber: thanks to you too! |
| 09:03.48 | cantido | later versions have have -base archive with just C |
| 09:03.48 | xkaliber | np! |
| 09:03.50 | xkaliber | good luck |
| 09:03.53 | tMH | ;) |
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| 09:04.19 | xkaliber | you can get a later source through svn |
| 09:04.24 | ChrisH | Try: I have no experience with Linux iptables under load. But with ipfilter on Solaris 10 and there we saw similar. w/a remove connection tracking and add static rules |
| 09:04.41 | xkaliber | if it will work and compile correctly from source... |
| 09:05.27 | xkaliber | if you must have something newer for whatever you are trying to run... |
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| 09:08.20 | tMH | stop. |
| 09:08.22 | tMH | heck. |
| 09:08.27 | tMH | I have _no_ gcc installed at all. |
| 09:08.46 | tMH | how to install gcc from repositories? |
| 09:09.24 | tMH | from the package, be better |
| 09:09.57 | tMH | (nice idea - to wget gcc and try to compile it without gcc installed on system;) |
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| 09:10.22 | ChrisH | themill: aptitude search gcc ; then apt-get install gcc or what is your question? replace gcc with g++ or |
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| 09:10.28 | xcheng | man apt-get |
| 09:10.37 | tMH | well. |
| 09:11.07 | tMH | aptitude is nice, but I get varios errors - not found, key is correct - all because my debian 4.0 that is ooooold version. |
| 09:11.17 | tMH | and support has ended on 21 jan some year |
| 09:11.27 | tMH | key is NOT correct, even |
| 09:11.55 | ChrisH | tMH: some years ago :) Update your debian to a recent version. |
| 09:11.56 | xcheng | you're heading down the road of pain |
| 09:12.05 | tMH | ChrisH - can not - will not ;) sorry. |
| 09:12.19 | tMH | I just need to install - whatever version - (of) gcc |
| 09:12.29 | xcheng | grab the pre-compiled package? |
| 09:12.34 | tMH | xcheng: bingo!;) |
| 09:12.39 | cardamon | tMH: Then leave. We're 'support' as well. |
| 09:12.40 | ChrisH | !archive |
| 09:12.40 | dpkg | i guess archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 09:12.58 | nevyn | snapshot |
| 09:13.18 | nevyn | or grab the ancient isos |
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| 09:13.36 | xcheng | that's a bad idea |
| 09:13.45 | tMH | ok,I got url - http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-base_4.1.2-29_i386.deb |
| 09:13.47 | nevyn | yep |
| 09:13.49 | ChrisH | tMH: add the correct sources from above and it should work to install gcc from there |
| 09:13.57 | cardamon | Nothing about this qualifies as a "good" idea. |
| 09:14.05 | tMH | ChrisH - really? let me read, wait |
| 09:14.09 | xcheng | true |
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| 09:14.41 | xcheng | that system is now pretty much stuck in the past |
| 09:14.44 | tMH | ChrisH - like this - http://mirror.mephi.ru/debian-archive/ ? |
| 09:14.45 | cardamon | And I strongly feel that if your data was so important you'd already have backups and have no problem transitioning to Squeeze or later. |
| 09:15.08 | cantido | if the hardware is that old maybe it won't run with a new kernel.. |
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| 09:15.25 | tMH | cardamon - I only hope that installing gcc (which is absent from system by now) will not affect all other tools;) |
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| 09:16.27 | cardamon | cantido: I can't thinkg of any that aren't still covered in squeeze or even wheezy...loosing i386 was a recent kernel development. |
| 09:16.42 | ChrisH | themill: more like deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free replace lenny with your older system |
| 09:16.57 | tMH | ok, let me try. |
| 09:16.58 | tMH | bvtw |
| 09:16.59 | tMH | btw |
| 09:17.02 | cantido | cardamon: stuff like APM got all broken on some older machines I had |
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| 09:17.20 | tMH | ah, ok |
| 09:17.24 | tMH | let me try (#2) |
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| 09:18.03 | ChrisH | tMH: and once more: no security updates, no support, it might even kill your cat,.... you have been warned. |
| 09:18.50 | tMH | ChrisH - just gcc (swear hand in the air!) |
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| 09:23.24 | tMH | ok, here I got results: http://fpaste.org/h8yu/ |
| 09:23.26 | tMH | any ideas?:) |
| 09:24.06 | ChrisH | tMH: apt-get update done before? |
| 09:24.22 | xkaliber | you can use svn |
| 09:24.23 | tMH | ChrisH - tried to, but got errors etc.. |
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| 09:24.35 | ChrisH | tMH: fix them first! |
| 09:24.40 | tMH | ChrisH - how to, sir ? |
| 09:25.03 | xkaliber | http://gcc.gnu.org/svn.html |
| 09:25.03 | ChrisH | tMH: as long as you do not show them to us, no one can tell |
| 09:25.13 | tMH | ChrisH - 'them' - what? |
| 09:25.20 | tMH | ah, you mean errors? |
| 09:25.27 | tMH | those were before? |
| 09:25.29 | ChrisH | tMH: yes. them = errors |
| 09:26.59 | tMH | ChrisH - I think I did re-connect to that host and backscroll log have been lost.. |
| 09:27.10 | tMH | I might try to restore history, what I have done before.. |
| 09:27.23 | tMH | aha |
| 09:27.23 | tMH | aptitude install gcc-4.1 g++-4.1 |
| 09:27.39 | tMH | that is what I tried before |
| 09:27.40 | ChrisH | tMH: run apt-get update and pastbin the command and results to paste.debian.net |
| 09:28.19 | tMH | ChrisH - 1) apt-get update - ok, 3) results to paste.debian.net. what is about 2) - pastebin ? |
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| 09:29.01 | ChrisH | pastebin is the verb for doing 3) :) |
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| 09:29.54 | tMH | ChrisH - http://fpaste.org/nbqf/ |
| 09:30.07 | tMH | 1st paste + 2nd paste after some "===" delimiter chars |
| 09:30.25 | tMH | W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 09:30.26 | tMH | 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 09:30.38 | tMH | that's what I been talking. wrong key etc. |
| 09:30.46 | tMH | (about) |
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| 09:31.19 | tMH | I think I should remove that mephi.ru mirror - no use , as it seems... |
| 09:31.24 | ChrisH | tMH: remove that mirror.mephi.ru line, as it does not work.... getting 404 not found; and rerun apt-get update |
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| 09:31.34 | tMH | ChrisH - aha |
| 09:32.03 | tMH | same here: |
| 09:32.03 | tMH | W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 09:32.04 | tMH | 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 09:32.04 | tMH | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
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| 09:32.14 | tMH | sorry. |
| 09:32.38 | tMH | the same error after mephi.ru mirror removal - no public key. |
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| 09:33.13 | ChrisH | tMH: step by step... now we will fix the key thing: check http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt Point 7 mainly |
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| 09:35.18 | tMH | he, done apt-key list - 4 keys has expired in 2007 and 2010. |
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| 09:35.44 | tMH | ok, reading further:) |
| 09:36.11 | ChrisH | now once more apt-get update |
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| 09:36.39 | tMH | ChrisH - I did nothing since last paste - just reading SecureApt thingie. |
| 09:36.44 | Jo_ | Greetings people of linux ! |
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| 09:37.18 | Jo_ | here come a new noob havin some noob questions. Before asking anything, YEAH i rade the fucking manual. Yeah, i spent hours on the net. |
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| 09:37.44 | Jo_ | so basicly, a thread could solve my problem |
| 09:38.07 | Jo_ | if u could take a look : |
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| 09:38.15 | invariant | !u |
| 09:38.15 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 09:38.50 | Jo_ | This section assumes that you are familiar with configuring the X.Org server using xorg.conf and optionally the newer mechanisms using hal or udev and xorg.conf.d. If not you can learn about them by studying the documentation which comes with X.Org. |
| 09:38.51 | Jo_ | The VirtualBox Guest Additions come with drivers for X.Org versions |
| 09:38.51 | Jo_ | X11R6.8/X11R6.9 and XFree86 version 4.3 (vboxvideo_drv_68.o and vboxmouse_drv_68.o) |
| 09:38.51 | Jo_ | X11R7.0 (vboxvideo_drv_70.so and vboxmouse_drv_70.so) |
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| 09:39.14 | Jo_ | The VirtualBox guest graphics driver can use any graphics configuration for which the virtual resolution fits into the virtual video memory allocated to the virtual machine (minus a small amount used by the guest driver) as described in the section called Display settings. The driver will offer a range of standard modes at least up to the default guest resolution for all active guest monitors. In X.Org Server 1.3 and later the default |
| 09:39.19 | Jo_ | mode can be changed by setting th |
| 09:39.21 | Jo_ | lol |
| 09:39.22 | wols_ | Jo_: don't spam the channel with a paste |
| 09:39.29 | Jo_ | ill know |
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| 09:39.48 | wols_ | !enter |
| 09:39.48 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 09:39.49 | Jo_ | but as everyone looks idle, i really thought this wouldnt anoy anyone |
| 09:40.14 | wols_ | you already annoyed me and probably any other who was looking |
| 09:40.22 | Jo_ | really ? |
| 09:40.30 | Jo_ | how that |
| 09:40.36 | wols_ | do you have a debian related problem? |
| 09:40.47 | Jo_ | sure |
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| 09:40.55 | Jo_ | thats why im here -_- |
| 09:41.19 | wols_ | no, so far you are here to annoy people and behave badly. please stop it and state your actual problem |
| 09:42.40 | ChrisH | tMH: any step further? apt-get update should be OK after adding the key. confirm? |
| 09:43.37 | Jo_ | Problem with the resolution of my display STOP. Think i found the way to proceed but need further information STOP. But this relate ton an article STOP. Help needed to process the info STOP. |
| 09:44.10 | jem^ | State the *problem*, not a load of waffle or pastes from the material you've read while trying to fix it! |
| 09:44.30 | jem^ | be concise and to the point |
| 09:44.45 | wols_ | and don't try to be snarky when you want help: this annoys the people who want help from which then don't give you help. in short: you behave like a moron. congrats! |
| 09:45.03 | tMH | ChrisH - trying to add the key:) |
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| 09:46.53 | Jo_ | I'm a moron sir, since you so sure i'm a wow player. I need some help in my no native language, never do so in a chan, and the way you inform me i dont ask help in the requested syntax is by kicking me. |
| 09:47.18 | jem^ | you're still being snarky and not stating your actual problem |
| 09:47.23 | Jo_ | okay im not a elite linux user, but i still a human |
| 09:47.28 | jem^ | the hole is getting almost too deep to climb out of |
| 09:47.30 | Jo_ | sure my mistake. |
| 09:47.38 | stanley | so what is the problem? |
| 09:47.40 | wols_ | you are a human behaving like a 5 year old petulant child |
| 09:47.43 | tMH | heck, it is not that easy to add the key.. |
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| 09:48.14 | Jo_ | sure sure, wols. And you are the mastah' no doubt about that. |
| 09:48.23 | Jo_ | let me enounce my problem, please. |
| 09:48.25 | wols_ | more snarkiness, still no problem description |
| 09:49.11 | magellanic | I have an issue on debian unstable with wpa_supplicant, it associates to my wpa ap, but a dhclient on the interface times out with no response, can anyone assist |
| 09:49.50 | jem^ | is the DHCP server on the same device as the access point? |
| 09:49.52 | wols_ | magellanic: checked router logs? maybe MAC filter? |
| 09:50.16 | jem^ | if not, is the access point passing broadcasts? |
| 09:50.47 | magellanic | wols_: not a mac filter, my phone connects to the same ap without any prior setup, just using the wpa password.. |
| 09:51.12 | tMH | Hit http://archive.debian.org etch/non-free Packages |
| 09:51.12 | tMH | Fetched 1B in 0s (2B/s) |
| 09:51.12 | tMH | Reading package lists... Done |
| 09:51.13 | tMH | W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
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| 09:51.20 | wols_ | check if the AP has a log |
| 09:51.26 | jem^ | is the DHCP server set only to hand leases out to known mac addresses? |
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| 09:51.50 | magellanic | I don't have access to the ap unfortunately |
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| 09:52.09 | Jo_ | I have problem for processing info from a virtual box user article. It shows how to enable the wanted resolution. I can't past the article. |
| 09:52.26 | magellanic | I'm going to boot a livecd quick and see if it connects |
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| 09:52.45 | jem^ | Jo_: can't you link to it? virtualbox docs are available online |
| 09:53.14 | wols_ | and most of us even have the vbox user manual on disk even |
| 09:53.34 | jem^ | that said, you're still not stating the specific problem you're having. You're just saying you're having problems with the documentation |
| 09:53.57 | Jo_ | My mistake again, i thought this would be counted as spam also. https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#guestxorgsetup => Section 9.12 Graphics |
| 09:54.49 | Jo_ | I cant display the wanted resolution in my VM runing a debian 6 machine ? |
| 09:55.12 | wols_ | Jo_: are the guest additions actually installed and what resolution is it you can't use? |
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| 09:57.15 | Jo__ | Yeah sure ! the Additions are installed. I've from 640x480 to 1600 x1200. Nothing more. |
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| 09:57.48 | Jo__ | the resolution above 800x600 took place after i ran those additions. |
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| 09:57.56 | Jo__ | the resolutionS |
| 09:58.25 | jem^ | How did you install the additions? Did you run the VBoxLinuxAdditions.run script? |
| 09:58.32 | jem^ | from the virtual cdrom |
| 09:58.47 | Jo__ | affirmativ Jem |
| 09:59.31 | jem^ | How much graphics memory have you assigned to the VM? |
| 09:59.40 | Jo__ | the max : 128 |
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| 10:01.50 | jem^ | I don't have access to virtualbox at the moment to suggest other things to check |
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| 10:02.25 | Jo__ | Sure. |
| 10:03.29 | Jo__ | i saw that increasing vm could help. But the operation is described only for linux host. Do you know how to do so in windows ? |
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| 10:03.53 | wols_ | Jo_: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 10:05.48 | wols_ | Jo_: at paste.debian.net fyi |
| 10:06.49 | jem^ | debian has older guest additions included in the default installation. You're supposed to remove those manually before installing the latest ones bundled with your version of virtualbox. Did you do that as well? |
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| 10:07.32 | Jo__ | i dont think so. Hold on, im doin the paste.debian.net op |
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| 10:08.16 | jem^ | For the sake of avoiding confusion, I'll shut up and let wols_ help you for now |
| 10:09.21 | Jo__ | :D |
| 10:09.23 | wols_ | jem^: no it was a good idea. the way to check for it is dpkg -l |grep virtualbox |
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| 10:09.53 | Jo__ | ok avorting the paste.debian op |
| 10:11.24 | wols_ | Jo_: also the output of "lsmod" |
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| 10:31.38 | xbanux | hey guys...im compling my own kernel (just disabling some unwanted modules)...there are alot of tutorials on this and i have sucessfully complied the kernel...any idea's on how to make this a deb package so that it can be easily deployed on other systems? |
| 10:32.24 | cantido | xbanux: don't bother, the debian kernel is modular |
| 10:33.16 | xbanux | yes i know...but just out of curiosity... |
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| 10:34.08 | wols_ | !tell xbanux about kernelpackage |
| 10:34.22 | wols_ | !tell xbanux about kernel package |
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| 10:35.49 | xbanux | thanks guys...i'll give it a try :) |
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| 10:47.09 | judgen | at 96 dpi, is there any fonts suited for use with 6pts size for linux? Segoe worked well enough on this device on that other OS. |
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| 11:40.10 | subb1 | hi Debian. |
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| 11:40.15 | stanley | hi |
| 11:40.36 | subb1 | I'm trying to upgrade from5 to 6, following http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 11:40.50 | subb1 | In this step: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-process |
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| 11:41.28 | subb1 | would I need to comment out all lines in sources.list and replace it with |
| 11:41.45 | subb1 | "deb http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib " ? |
| 11:42.08 | subb1 | supposing 'cn' is my nearest mirror? |
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| 11:43.27 | themill | subb1: you probably want to update the line for security.debian.org from lenny to squeeze as well |
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| 11:45.50 | subb1 | oh ok. Now my sources.list looks like below, is it okay? |
| 11:46.06 | subb1 | deb http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib |
| 11:46.08 | subb1 | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 11:46.19 | subb1 | I mean, is it the recommended official method? |
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| 11:46.53 | cockroach | subb1, looks good to me, except i don't think you need contrib if you don't have non-free. |
| 11:47.07 | themill | you can use contrib without using non-free |
| 11:47.20 | themill | subb1: looks good. Keep following the release notes and make sure you upgrade kernel and udev as described |
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| 11:47.39 | cockroach | sure you can, but i thought contrib was about free software that requires stuff from non-free to work. i could be wrong though |
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| 11:48.17 | cockroach | anyway, the sources look good to me |
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| 11:49.31 | subb1 | thanks guys :) |
| 11:49.44 | themill | cockroach: stuff in contrib requires software not in main but is otherwise free software. The things it requires can be packages from non-free or 3rd party tarballs that aren't in debian at all (think googleearth-package, ttf-mscorefonts-installer, flashplugin-nonfree) |
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| 11:49.55 | uniqdom | how can i remove apt-get cache files? |
| 11:50.16 | themill | uniqdom: apt-get autoclean or apt-get clean depending on what you want to achieve |
| 11:50.17 | cockroach | themill: ah true, didn't think of third party tarballs. sorry for the noise then :) |
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| 11:52.00 | subb1 | here http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-udev its mentioned udev on squeeze requires 2.6.26 or newer. I already have "2.6.32-5-amd64". So 'Upgrading kernel and udev" step can be skipped safely, right? |
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| 11:53.37 | themill | subb1: yeah, you should be ok. How come you already have the squeeze kernel on that machine? |
| 11:54.16 | subb1 | themill, I'm not sure, just checked now as I was reading the Docs. |
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| 11:54.39 | themill | subb1: is this a virtual machine of some sort that would be exposing the host's kernel to the guest? |
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| 11:55.16 | subb1 | themill, oh! this indeed is VM. |
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| 11:56.04 | subb1 | themill, This is a test server actually that was created. oh. how can I be sure of things now? ! |
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| 12:14.22 | gestahlt_ | Hi |
| 12:14.31 | bubben | Hi |
| 12:14.35 | gestahlt_ | My ghost is still there |
| 12:14.51 | gestahlt_ | anyway, i didnt came to a conclusion regarding my VM Storage question *G* |
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| 12:16.07 | bubben | I'dont know whats that? |
| 12:16.13 | gestahlt_ | I got following scenario: I got 4 nodes with FC HBAs, we got a SAN providing for each node 1 LUN. The LUNs are accessible from every node. I like to do a KVM HA setup and im still in doubt if i need a cluster fs or not |
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| 12:17.01 | gestahlt_ | If a failover occurs node should be able to mount the LUN (it would be also okay if it is already mounted) and run the stored VM (i want to store it as qcow2 image) |
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| 12:18.13 | gestahlt_ | There should be no concurrent access (in theory). When the node comes back up it should mount the LUN again and maybe even take the VM ownership back (via a script) |
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| 12:19.56 | bubben | Okej |
| 12:20.07 | ChrisH | gestahlt_: Cluster LVM? |
| 12:20.36 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH: Yeah i thought about that. I basically dont need LVM for resizing and snapshots since i will use qcow2 |
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| 12:22.36 | ChrisH | gestahlt_: Does qcow2 use a Partion or does it take a while disk? |
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| 12:24.48 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH_: its an Image format and usually it contains the whole disk layout. qcow2 is dynamic in size. Means you allocate 20GB, but the instalaltion only needs 4, also so are only 4 used on block level |
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| 12:25.45 | ChrisH | gestahlt_: but where is that image located on? Inside a eg. ext3 or without any FS, like a raw format. |
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| 12:26.12 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH_: Its saved on a FS of your choice. Its just a file. |
| 12:26.22 | gestahlt_ | like an ISO |
| 12:26.38 | colo-work | where are the default PAM-induced limits (nofile, nproc, etc.) set in Squeeze? If I set a nofile hard limit of 4096 for a user in /etc/security/limits.conf, itÄll still turn out as 1024 (default value) for that limit, but I can now _increase_ it to 2096. |
| 12:26.44 | colo-work | 4096* |
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| 12:28.52 | ChrisH | gestahlt_: So an Cluster LVM with ext4 to contain the image seems to be a valid approach |
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| 12:31.20 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH: What does Cluster LVM Provide? I read a bit with cluster FSs and the main reason seems locking management |
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| 12:32.30 | Zeeflo | Im a bit in the blur about how to install qt-faststart |
| 12:32.40 | Zeeflo | Is it a part of ffmpeg or can I install it alone? |
| 12:33.08 | ChrisH | gestahlt_: from my understanding Cluster LVM simply prevent activation of a VG on more than one node. I assume this is the Linux port of the HPUX LVM used for ther HA solution MC/ServiceGuard |
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| 12:38.40 | noregret | /etc/debian shows me that I got 6.0.6 how can I know if it is squeeze or testing |
| 12:39.18 | ChrisH | noregret: check /topic |
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| 12:39.48 | noregret | yeah saw it, thanks |
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| 12:41.04 | noregret | i'm trying to install icoutils but i'm getting an unmet dependency for nfs-common.. shouldn't apt-get handle dependencies ? http://pastie.org/5844961 |
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| 12:44.06 | ChrisH | noregret: did you run a apt-get update before |
| 12:44.29 | gestahlt_ | Since i have nothing installed.. i will try to see (out of curiosity) What will happen if i mount a ext4 volume twice on a node :) |
| 12:44.40 | noregret | ChrisH: yes |
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| 12:46.07 | gestahlt_ | lets see how easy it is to do a clusterfuck *G* |
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| 12:46.51 | Iridos | noregret, show us "apt-cache policy" output and/or /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:47.14 | Iridos | actually policy contains everything needed, but I hate reading it |
| 12:47.49 | ChrisH | ,v initscripts |
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| 12:47.50 | judd | Package: initscripts on i386 -- lenny: 2.86.ds1-61; squeeze: 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.88dsf-34; sid: 2.88dsf-37 |
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| 12:48.28 | themill | noregret: that looks like a mix of squeeze and wheezy there. |
| 12:48.30 | themill | dpkg: tell noregret about unmixing |
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| 12:50.02 | noregret | ok, nvm |
| 12:50.10 | noregret | there was a bad repo in sources :) |
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| 12:52.31 | gestahlt_ | Ah-HA! |
| 12:52.32 | Iridos | unmixing! |
| 12:52.37 | Iridos | what will you come up with next |
| 12:53.02 | gestahlt_ | When you mount a LUN with ext4 on 2 nodes, you wont see changes that the first node did |
| 12:53.28 | gestahlt_ | And since they dont know where on the block have written data i can imagine this doesnt end up well |
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| 12:54.51 | gestahlt_ | no, this is no good |
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| 13:00.12 | Iridos | judd, versions nfs-common |
| 13:00.14 | judd | Package: nfs-common on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.1.2-6lenny2; lenny-backports: 1:1.2.2-4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 1:1.2.5-4~bpo60+1; sid: 1:1.2.6-3; wheezy: 1:1.2.6-3 |
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| 13:01.18 | ChrisH | gestahlt_: You did a vgchange -a c ? |
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| 13:03.05 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH: It was not on a LVM :) |
| 13:03.29 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH: I just wanted to see what would happen or what is happening |
| 13:03.42 | gestahlt_ | ChrisH: Im trying now cLVM and see how this will work out |
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| 13:15.36 | hellyeah | debian repos doesnt have skype why |
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| 13:15.52 | ChrisH | !skype |
| 13:15.53 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its restrictive license and is therefore not supported in #debian. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype squeeze> for community-contributed information. Consider using a free software alternative such as <ekiga>, <empathy> or <linphone>. |
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| 13:16.22 | themill | hellyeah: you can try to convince skype to let debian distribute it. Having the source code under a permissive licence would be nice too. Also ponies are nice. |
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| 13:16.55 | Armand | themill, been to Tesco's recently ? |
| 13:17.03 | themill | eww |
| 13:17.40 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 13:17.52 | hellyeah | i didnt know microsof owned skype |
| 13:18.02 | hellyeah | but there are some skype plugins of pidgin |
| 13:18.31 | hellyeah | can i connect skype account with ekiga or empathy |
| 13:18.45 | babilen | no |
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| 13:19.05 | hellyeah | okey |
| 13:19.17 | babilen | (not for video conferencing, no idea about text chat) |
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| 13:19.29 | hellyeah | because i need to talk with my sister Thats why i need skype |
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| 13:20.24 | babilen | hellyeah: Then install it. You find the procedure to do so on the Debian wiki (see what dpkg said above) -- Which version of Debian do you use? |
| 13:20.38 | abrotman | the fact that MS owns skype has nothing to do wtih the ability to redistribute it |
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| 13:21.28 | Gonzo891302 | Hey, i try to exclude a folder with tar but it doesnt work. I stay in folder "test2" and execute tar -czvf test.tar . --exclude=ordner1/ (This ordner exist). I get the error "Cannot stat: No such file or directory". The test.tar is created with the folder ordner1 inside. Andy ideas? |
| 13:21.31 | Rienzilla | I dont think ms has a lot of applications that would comply to debians requirements :) |
| 13:22.08 | abrotman | Rienzilla: to be fair, DFSG don't let us distribute GFDL either |
| 13:22.39 | abrotman | Rienzilla: it wasn't redistributable before MS bought it .. |
| 13:22.42 | babilen | hellyeah: Are you using squeeze, wheezy or something else? |
| 13:22.56 | Rienzilla | I know |
| 13:22.57 | ChrisH | hellyeah: Skype did change the .deb files quite often. some do install smoothly and some not at all. give it a try and download from skype.com |
| 13:23.14 | Rienzilla | it has more to do with debians strictness regarding free software than with anything else |
| 13:23.37 | abrotman | are you sure? |
| 13:23.51 | abrotman | the skype license may restrict redistribution |
| 13:23.57 | Rienzilla | I think so, although I don't know the skype license |
| 13:24.08 | Rienzilla | it may be both, really |
| 13:24.13 | Rienzilla | doenst really matter |
| 13:24.14 | babilen | ChrisH: There are better ways to install skype, but the best method depends on the version of Debian you are installing on. (due to the fact that newer skype versions target multiarch systems) Can't give any further tips without knowing which version of Debian hellyeah uses though and (s)he refuses to answer ;) |
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| 13:24.45 | erbo | Gonzo891302: skip the trailing slash on ordner1/ |
| 13:25.03 | hellyeah | my debian version is 7.0 wheezy |
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| 13:26.03 | babilen | hellyeah: In that case you can follow the instructions on http://wiki.debian.org/skype → On Debian 7.0 → [ amd64 → Multi-Arch | i386 ] |
| 13:26.08 | Gonzo891302 | erbo: Doenst help. I also tried double quotes... |
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| 13:26.23 | hellyeah | thanks |
| 13:26.30 | Gonzo891302 | erbo: --exclude=ordner1/filename doesnt work too...same error |
| 13:26.36 | erbo | Gonzo891302: ok, that does the trick for me |
| 13:26.38 | pmo | babilen: if youre on 64bit wheezy, you need to enable multiarch and download the 32 bit package |
| 13:27.02 | pmo | as strange as it sounds |
| 13:27.02 | babilen | yes!? |
| 13:27.10 | babilen | Not strange at all |
| 13:27.19 | pmo | not? |
| 13:27.29 | pmo | 64bit on 64bit would have made sense |
| 13:27.42 | pmo | but that can be fixed with a lot of scripts lol |
| 13:28.18 | babilen | pmo: Only if skype would have been sensible enough to actually provide a real amd64 package. They don't, so you install the i386 package directly which multiarch allows you to do. |
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| 13:29.22 | pmo | babilen: ah thats the real issue |
| 13:29.24 | pmo | explains a lot |
| 13:30.27 | pmo | i would have expected MS to get it right.. cuz of their redhat doings |
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| 13:32.17 | babilen | pmo: Their amd64 package used to be the i386 software with dependencies on ia32- libraries. (that was pre-MS btw) Debian (and Ubuntu which Skype targets) uses multiarch these days which allows the installation of 32bit software directly without the need for ia32-* packages. (this is the reason for multiarch) -- The actual reasonable thing to do would be to simply offer 64bit binaries (or better: source code) but for some reason or another skype ... |
| 13:32.23 | babilen | ... doesn't do it. |
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| 13:33.17 | pmo | i dont want multiarch myself, i just decided to boot into windows should i need skype |
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| 13:34.12 | jelly | that's what they WANT you to do...! |
| 13:34.44 | pmo | i doubt it hehe |
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| 13:34.51 | babilen | pmo: That really isn't necessary, but you are, naturally, free to do whatever you want to do. |
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| 13:35.14 | pmo | babilen: i like my system "clean" |
| 13:35.35 | k5673 | Hello! I have a HP Pavillion dv6000 notebook. I have debian 6.0.6 configured for PXE net install. The installer doesnt recognize the hard drive. The SATA controller is an Intel ICH8M |
| 13:35.35 | pmo | 64bit goes on 64bit and 32bit on 32bit :P |
| 13:36.29 | pmo | been converting stuff from 32 to 64bit myself too hehe |
| 13:36.32 | Trewas | pmo: hopefully you don't have 64bit windows, skype is always 32bit there too :) |
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| 13:36.43 | k5673 | The weird thing is: ubuntu 8.04, using my PXE net install, sucessfully finish the installation, but debian 6.0.6 can't find the hard disk! |
| 13:36.44 | pmo | Trewas: i dont care about windows |
| 13:37.11 | kriebz | k5673: do you get a warning about not finding modules to load? |
| 13:37.38 | k5673 | kriebz: yes. But no in the console |
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| 13:38.05 | kriebz | you might have a bad version of the installer or its files, then |
| 13:38.25 | kriebz | try PXE booting another PC (and stopping before you finish, obviously) |
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| 13:39.16 | k5673 | kriebz: I have a virtual machine, kvm-based. Same problem |
| 13:39.21 | shomon | hi |
| 13:39.59 | k5673 | kriebz: I have already downloaded the last version of the netboot, dated 29-09-12 |
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| 13:40.27 | shomon | I'm trying to connect to a vpn, but in "network connections" it's all disabled, and no "unlock" or anything |
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| 13:41.57 | ChrisH | k5673: Is that a newer Notebook? |
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| 13:42.53 | k5673 | ChrisH: No! Is a HP Pavillion dv6000 series. The exact model is dv6933cl |
| 13:43.19 | k5673 | ChrisH: Ubuntu installs fine. 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 |
| 13:43.48 | k5673 | ChrisH: But Debian doesn't even find the hard drive! |
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| 13:44.00 | bniels | shomon, depending on the type of VPN you need, you probably need to install one of the several VPN plugins for network-manager. try "apt-cache search network manager vpn" to list which ones are available for install |
| 13:44.15 | ChrisH | k5673: I am asking because my experience with Laptop/Netbooks are: I choose testing for them. Ubuntu does a lot of kernel patching and add firmware stuff missing in Debian. |
| 13:44.36 | k5673 | ChrisH: Testing.. Wheezy? |
| 13:44.47 | ChrisH | k5673: ACK |
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| 13:45.09 | kriebz | k5673: drop to a shell when you get stuck in the installer and run `lsmod`. If you see *nothing*, it's a bug |
| 13:45.23 | dokma | anyone knows if there is a way to ban an ip that makes an http post request out of the blue? |
| 13:45.31 | shomon | thanks very much bniels ! I'll try that |
| 13:45.36 | dokma | I don't see how to do it using fail2ban |
| 13:45.40 | dokma | any other method? |
| 13:45.56 | wols_ | how do you detect the post request? |
| 13:46.08 | dokma | from the apache log |
| 13:46.44 | wols_ | then do a log analyze via cron perdiocally and then ban the offender |
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| 13:47.06 | k5673 | kriebz: OK! |
| 13:47.06 | bniels | fail2ban can most likely be configured to do that. it reads log files and generates rules to block the traffic from that address via iptables |
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| 13:48.28 | dokma | bniels: I haven't seen an example of fail2ban doing stuff along the lines of 'ban if something didn't happen before something else' only 'ban if a request looks like this' or 'ban if there is too many of these kinds of requests in a period of time' .... |
| 13:48.34 | dokma | I'd love to do it using fail2ban |
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| 13:50.08 | kriebz | maybe you can write your own perl script to analyze the logs and generate arguments to moidfly fail2ban |
| 13:50.15 | bniels | dokma, well, i didn't know that you wanted something to happen before the POST to identify a legit one. but yeah, then fail2ban won't be of much use, i guess |
| 13:50.33 | k5673 | kriebz: it shows the modules list |
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| 13:50.56 | dokma | bniels: well, it seems logical to me that for a valid forum user there should be some ordinary page loads before they can send an HTPP POST |
| 13:51.01 | ChrisH | k5673: does fdisk -l work? |
| 13:51.04 | dokma | I think that's a very reasonable request |
| 13:51.11 | dokma | and a good way to filter out bots |
| 13:51.18 | dokma | and illegal ones at that too... |
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| 13:51.32 | arafel | one consideration - how long between page loads and banning the post? |
| 13:51.35 | k5673 | ChrisH: fdisk -l doesn't shows anything |
| 13:51.46 | kriebz | k5673: dmesg | grep sd |
| 13:51.56 | arafel | otherwise you run the risk of banning people who load your page, hibernate the laptop, then do something later |
| 13:52.01 | dokma | I think that if I put one hour it will capture a bunch of bots |
| 13:52.10 | dokma | as they just start trying to login out of the blue |
| 13:52.32 | dokma | what I see in the logs is nothing from an ip at all, and then all of a suden they just start sending HTTP POSTs |
| 13:52.50 | dokma | that is obviously not a normal user |
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| 13:53.19 | nkuttler | dokma: why is that a problem? |
| 13:53.21 | dokma | the only proble I see with this approach is that it can easily be circumvented by the bot by just loading a normal page before trying HTTP POST.... |
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| 13:53.44 | dokma | nkuttler: those are bots trying to guess users passwords |
| 13:53.51 | dokma | or trying to register an account |
| 13:53.52 | Guest72192 | just check if they are using a real browser |
| 13:54.02 | Guest72192 | of course, requires javascript support from browsers |
| 13:54.05 | nkuttler | dokma: sounds like something the webapp itself should prevent |
| 13:54.11 | k5673 | kriebz: nothing |
| 13:54.31 | dokma | nkuttler: there are captchas and email verifications |
| 13:54.45 | arafel | dokma: if you're going to do it, I'd say rate-limiting rather than banning, or maybe allow 3 posts in 1 minute (after no page loads for an hour) or something. |
| 13:54.46 | dokma | but on large sites the bots will try their miserable ways anyway |
| 13:54.49 | nkuttler | dokma: POSTing login data directly to a site is a valid use case |
| 13:54.52 | arafel | outright ban the first POST is going to bite you. |
| 13:55.06 | k5673 | kriebz: Looking through the dmesg output, i see some resource allocation problem with EISA |
| 13:55.09 | dokma | nkuttler: how is that so? |
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| 13:55.30 | dokma | arafel: same question |
| 13:55.38 | arafel | wget, for one. |
| 13:55.48 | nkuttler | dokma: i host several login forms myself. it's faster |
| 13:55.53 | abrotman | dokma: if you don't want the bot to POST directly, have your CGI script verify that the POST body came from the server/form |
| 13:56.00 | arafel | loading your forum (or whatever), hibernating, waking up the laptop 8 hours later, and trying to log in to the forum. |
| 13:56.03 | abrotman | dokma: you're solving it the wrong way |
| 13:56.19 | arafel | those are two obvious ones, which means there's almost certainly multiple non-obvious ones. |
| 13:56.24 | dokma | arafel: that's a negligable percentage of cases |
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| 13:56.40 | arafel | shrugs. They're your users. For now, at least. ;-) |
| 13:56.45 | nkuttler | dokma: alright. good luck then |
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| 13:57.03 | kriebz | k5673: eew. but still, if Ubuntu can boot it, Debian can boot it. try going into BIOS and disabling stuff you don't use, and setting the SATA controller to AHCI mode instead of "legacy" or "hybrid" or something. the main hard disk is SATA, right? |
| 13:57.07 | dokma | hmmm... I'll have to think about it |
| 13:57.17 | abrotman | kriebz: but perhaps not squeeze |
| 13:57.31 | abrotman | k5673: tried the wheezy netinst? |
| 13:57.45 | kriebz | ICH8 is no where near new. I'm sure I'm running squeeze on an ICH8 board at work |
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| 13:58.17 | abrotman | kriebz: and squeeze has a kernel pushing 3yrs old .. |
| 13:59.30 | bartus | Hello, i have a problem with piping multi-page postscript to gv. Is gv capable of reading such file through a pipe ? For me gv only shows first page, after that error pop-up window shows up with a fast changing reports :? |
| 13:59.38 | k5673 | kriebz: I tried putting the hdd controller into IDE mode, but i have no option in the BIOS |
| 13:59.48 | abrotman | !tell k5673 about wheezy |
| 14:00.35 | kriebz | I'm trying to find an actual kernel version that added support for ICH8, but it's muddled up with support for sound and network from that chip, not just disk |
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| 14:01.06 | wols_ | kriebz: if you boot debian iso, you don't see any disks with fdisk -l? |
| 14:01.14 | k5673 | abrotman: I'm downloading the Wheezy netboot |
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| 14:01.43 | kriebz | wols_: not me, k5673 |
| 14:02.26 | k5673 | wols_: It's me with the disk problem |
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| 14:04.24 | kriebz | bartus: I think you've proven that no, it isn't |
| 14:05.04 | k5673 | abrotman: I'm now booting the Wheezy installer |
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| 14:07.08 | k5673 | abrotman: Wheezy doesn't recognize the hard drive |
| 14:07.11 | bartus | kriebz, thats a pity... gs could do the job if i can figure out how to make if pause every page. |
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| 14:08.04 | abrotman | k5673: wait .. hold on a second |
| 14:08.16 | abrotman | k5673: it doesn't recognize any HDDs, or not some RAID thing? |
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| 14:08.54 | k5673 | abrotman: HDD only. My notebook doesn't have RAID |
| 14:09.07 | kriebz | bartus: dare I ask... dose Evince work? |
| 14:09.09 | abrotman | k5673: have you monkeyed in the BIOS? |
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| 14:09.14 | abrotman | monkied ? |
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| 14:10.36 | k5673 | abrotman: There are not options to monkey around in the BIOS |
| 14:10.57 | k5673 | abrotman: Only boot order, diagnostics and system information |
| 14:11.24 | bartus | kriebz, apparently evince is unable to read from stdin. |
| 14:11.35 | kriebz | not surprised |
| 14:11.51 | kriebz | I guess you'll just have to use a temporary file |
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| 14:15.24 | abrotman | k5673: have you checked the debug window for any messages? |
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| 14:19.25 | k5673 | abrotman: i booted in the installed ubuntu 8.04 and looked in lsmod... |
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| 14:20.13 | k5673 | abrotman: the OS is using ahcim ata_generic and pata_acpi modules |
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| 14:23.37 | k5673 | abrotman: I think i'm going to stick to Ubuntu for a while |
| 14:23.49 | stanley | :( |
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| 14:28.08 | abrotman | k5673: weird .. you could file a bug if you would like |
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| 14:28.28 | abrotman | k5673: or ask #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net if there's a way to use a different driver |
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| 14:29.43 | k5673 | abrotman: OK! I'll do so! |
| 14:29.44 | bartus | kriebz, thank for your help ;] |
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| 14:39.20 | emper0r | hi... how can i use centerim over http_proxy ? |
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| 14:39.30 | emper0r | i try to export http_proxy var but not works.. any other idea ? or some future feature request about it ? |
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| 14:46.39 | wols_ | emper0r: generally the env variable needs to be all capitals |
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| 14:52.44 | emper0r | wols_: i try it too and nothing. :S |
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| 14:53.18 | babilen | maybe centerim doesn't support it? are you sure it does? |
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| 14:54.21 | emper0r | no... centericq supported before. but is abandoned.. centerim is a fork but i can't imagine how never devel the same thing |
| 14:54.37 | emper0r | because is almost basic in any network software |
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| 14:55.17 | emper0r | i write an email to maintainer on debian to see if know about it or can try to devel that |
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| 15:01.30 | drAvanti | hello all |
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| 15:03.16 | drAvanti | please could someone clarify me on this: for example, I have just installed vsftpd, and when I do chkconfig, I can see this: vsftpd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off. Suppose I do not want vsftpd to NOT start automatically, what runlevel do I set it to? |
| 15:03.31 | babilen | emper0r: The code looks as if you could configure this in a configuration files. I am not sure if it respects environment variables though. |
| 15:03.43 | drAvanti | as in vsftpd should not start at boot-time |
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| 15:05.57 | Towzzer | chkconfig vsftpd off |
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| 15:09.20 | jhutchins | drAvanti: I don't remember which util is installed by default, I think it might be rcconf - just set it to off there. |
| 15:09.35 | jhutchins | drAvanti: Runlevels are pretty meaningless in Debian. |
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| 15:11.49 | jhutchins | Towzzer: chkconfig in debian is just a script that calls one of the other utils, not installed by default. |
| 15:12.24 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:14.50 | LtL | jhutchins: rcconf is not installed by default, nor chkconfig just saying :) |
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| 15:19.34 | jhutchins | LtL: Which one is? |
| 15:20.27 | LtL | jhutchins: update-rc.d |
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| 15:21.54 | Pricey | Are there still compositing problems these days when you go over 2k total resolutions? |
| 15:22.32 | nkuttler | Pricey: ? |
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| 15:23.07 | Pricey | nkuttler: I'm sure there used to be problems with some cards/drivers/methods where if your entire screen size was more than 2000px across or down, it wouldn't work? |
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| 15:23.49 | peterS | used to use an expensive CRT at 2048x1536, but flat screens larger than 1920x1080 are hard to find |
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| 15:24.37 | drAvanti | @jhutchins - ok, thanks, Ill install rcconf |
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| 15:25.47 | drAvanti | @jjutchins - thanks, nice tool by the way |
| 15:25.49 | jhutchins | drAvanti: Yeah, update-rc.d is a bit obtuse. |
| 15:26.11 | drAvanti | @jjutchins - thanks, nice tool by the way. But I hope Ill still be able to start vsftpd when I want to? |
| 15:26.51 | jelly | shows peterS affordable noname korean 2560x1440 devices |
| 15:26.53 | LtL | drAvanti: yes sure |
| 15:27.14 | drAvanti | @LtL - thanks |
| 15:27.33 | LtL | drAvanti: my pleasure |
| 15:27.34 | peterS | jelly: indeed? oh and I don't even want to talk about my recent quest for a laptop that was not 1366x768 |
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| 15:28.14 | Pricey | peterS: By "entire screen size" I'm including dual monitor setups. |
| 15:28.29 | jelly | peterS: they're 16:9 which kind of sucks, but then again they're 27" and $400 |
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| 15:28.58 | peterS | Pricey: ahh - I don't really think that way because my own 3-monitor setup doesn't support Xinerama, so it's really 3 virtual screens, not 1 virtual screen of 3 devices. |
| 15:29.17 | Trewas | there are also 2560x1440 screens from real manufacturers, like Asus PB278Q |
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| 15:30.39 | peterS | Pricey: (for many things this does not matter, but you can't drag windows between screens, and you run into lots of small bugs where apps that should support multiple screens (part of the X11 protocol since like 1985) do not) |
| 15:30.45 | emper0r | babilen: where is that configfile ? |
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| 15:32.12 | Towzzer | jelly, those are the ones on ebay |
| 15:32.15 | Towzzer | from south korea? |
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| 15:32.49 | jelly | Towzzer: I'd applaud north korea if they were theirs |
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| 15:35.29 | babilen | emper0r: I don't know -- I simply saw that it is loading some config file in centerim's code that also references http_proxy. Check it's documentation ( I don't know as I've never used centerim nor plan to) |
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| 15:39.06 | emper0r | thanxs.. what part in the code did you see that ? thanxs |
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| 15:40.16 | invariant | One minute I can login via ssh, and the next I can't. I still have an open shell, but what might have caused this? |
| 15:40.26 | babilen | emper0r: one second |
| 15:40.50 | babilen | emper0r: /src/icqconf.cc |
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| 15:41.55 | emper0r | ok thx i'll check |
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| 15:44.34 | invariant | How can I see why ssh attempts fail on the server? |
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| 15:45.14 | xcheng | check /var/log/{syslog,auth} |
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| 15:45.51 | invariant | xcheng, neither contains the answer. |
| 15:46.17 | invariant | syslog is empty. |
| 15:46.26 | xcheng | ssh -vvv? |
| 15:46.43 | invariant | xcheng, that only gives client side information which is useless in this case. |
| 15:46.58 | xcheng | why is useless, what does it say |
| 15:47.06 | invariant | xcheng, it says that key authentication and passwords are allowed. |
| 15:47.26 | invariant | xcheng, I had it setup via key authentication but that stopped working for some unknown reason. |
| 15:47.36 | invariant | xcheng, the password I am using is correct. |
| 15:47.42 | invariant | xcheng, hence the need for server logs. |
| 15:47.58 | Iridos | this isn't a stock debian, if /var/log/auth.log doesn't contain information about logins |
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| 15:48.35 | invariant | Iridos, auth.log contains some information, but not about ssh attempts. |
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| 15:48.46 | Iridos | mine does |
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| 15:49.04 | invariant | Iridos, and mine doesn't. |
| 15:49.05 | Iridos | if you can, you can stop sshd and run sshd -D -d -d -d |
| 15:49.08 | xcheng | so it might be blocked lower in the stack... iptables perhaps? |
| 15:49.27 | invariant | Iridos, LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch |
| 15:49.43 | hilbert94 | My aptitude cannot find the packet tth, although I have the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list: |
| 15:49.46 | invariant | Iridos, Release: 6.0.6 |
| 15:49.49 | hilbert94 | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 15:49.58 | hilbert94 | Can anyone imagine why not? |
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| 15:50.07 | invariant | xcheng, it's an internal machine with no heavy security setup. |
| 15:50.09 | Iridos | judd, versions tth |
| 15:50.10 | judd | Package: tth on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 3.67-4; squeeze/non-free: 3.67-4; sid: 4.03+ds-2; wheezy: 4.03+ds-2 |
| 15:50.33 | invariant | Iridos, will doing that kill my current connection? |
| 15:50.35 | hilbert94 | judd: What do you want to say? |
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| 15:51.14 | Iridos | invariant, obviously... if you're remote only, you could try running a 2nd one on a different port just for monitoring |
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| 15:52.01 | Iridos | hilbert94, judd is a bot. and tth is in squeeze/non-free, so you should see it. Ran apt-get update before looking? |
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| 15:52.18 | Iridos | or aptitude update |
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| 15:52.24 | hilbert94 | Iridos: I am using aptitude not apt-get, but I did aptitude update, yes |
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| 15:52.43 | xcheng | invariant: start a new sshd on different port |
| 15:52.48 | xcheng | in debug mode of course |
| 15:52.58 | xcheng | like Iridos pointed out |
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| 15:53.18 | theForce | hi |
| 15:53.22 | theForce | is there a command to determine the domainname of the current server? |
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| 15:53.45 | xcheng | hostname -d? |
| 15:54.12 | hilbert94 | Iridos: Is there a possibility to see what packages are "offered" by all the repositories in sources.list? |
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| 15:54.39 | epy | hi All |
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| 15:54.48 | Iridos | hilbert94, "apt-get search ." :P |
| 15:54.51 | jhutchins | hilbert94: You're talking about 30,000+ packages. |
| 15:55.20 | jhutchins | hilbert94: It's usually better to search, but aptitude has a menu mode - just run it without arguments. |
| 15:55.32 | Iridos | jhutchins, he's missing one |
| 15:55.33 | ChrisH | theForce: egrep -e "search|domain" /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 15:56.18 | Iridos | hilbert94, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/tth |
| 15:56.19 | hilbert94 | "apt-cache search . | grep -i tth" does not contain the tth package |
| 15:56.29 | Iridos | hilbert94, are you on amd64 architecture? |
| 15:57.01 | babilen | hilbert94: Could you paste your sources.list along with the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy tth" to http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 15:57.01 | hilbert94 | Iridos: I am not sure which I installed. How can I check it? |
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| 15:57.13 | ChrisH | hilbert94: apt-cache search tth shows still on my wheezy amd64 box |
| 15:57.15 | franco00 | I want to go from sid to testing (ARMHF). Is it a good idea to change source.list from unstable to testing and then update+dist-upgrade? Or will it spell havoc? |
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| 15:57.51 | emilsedgh | there's a source package on Debian which is 'UNRELEASED'. is it actually built somewhere, but is just not released yet? |
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| 15:58.09 | emilsedgh | if its built somewhere, how can i access it? |
| 15:58.12 | themill | emilsedgh: which package and version are you talking about? |
| 15:58.23 | emilsedgh | themill: Virtuoso 6.1.6 |
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| 15:58.42 | emilsedgh | a new version seems to be made, but its UNRELEASED |
| 15:58.48 | emilsedgh | https://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmgit/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pkg-virtuoso/pkg-virtuoso.git |
| 15:58.57 | Iridos | hilbert94, dpkg-architecture and/or dpkg -l libc6 |
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| 15:59.08 | babilen | emilsedgh: It is probably build by the maintainer locally and has not yet been uploaded into the archive yet |
| 15:59.16 | Iridos | ChrisH, it's only in i386 in squeeze and he's on squeeze |
| 15:59.22 | themill | emilsedgh: "debcheckout virtuoso-opensource" would let you get the source and have a bash at building it. It may or may not eat your firstborn |
| 15:59.35 | emilsedgh | oh cool, thanks themill. |
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| 16:00.36 | ChrisH | Iridos: On my 32bit squeeze I find tth - TeX/LaTeX to HTML converter |
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| 16:01.57 | Iridos | ChrisH, then you find more than packages.debian.org says is there (see link above)... possibly you have wheezy somewhere there or something else |
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| 16:02.30 | Iridos | judd, versions tth --architecture=amd64 |
| 16:02.32 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
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| 16:02.43 | Iridos | judd, versions tth --arch amd64 |
| 16:02.44 | judd | Package: tth on amd64 -- sid: 4.03+ds-2; wheezy: 4.03+ds-2 |
| 16:03.01 | Iridos | I just *knew* I wouldn't get the syntax right on this one... |
| 16:03.20 | hilbert94 | Iridos: Here is what you requested: http://paste.debian.net/228214/ |
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| 16:03.48 | gestahlt_ | Does anyone know how to set the FC / Multipath timeout on qlogic cards on debian or at least check the setting? |
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| 16:04.05 | hilbert94 | So I am on amd64 |
| 16:04.28 | hilbert94 | Do I understand correctly that tth is not available for amd64 in squeeze? |
| 16:04.29 | ChrisH | Iridos: http://paste.debian.net/228215/ |
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| 16:06.06 | Iridos | ChrisH, 500 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free i386 Packages |
| 16:06.08 | Iridos | ChrisH, i386!!!# |
| 16:06.52 | ChrisH | Iridos: sorry I read it the other way round... its not on i386 |
| 16:06.53 | Iridos | hilbert94, looks like. you can probably backport (i.e. compile) the one from wheezy |
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| 16:07.10 | babilen | dpkg: tell hilbert94 -about ssb |
| 16:07.15 | DustyDingo | hi, i got some problems with nvidia driver |
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| 16:07.28 | babilen | hilbert94: You might also consider upgrading to wheezy -- What kind of machine is this? What is it used for? |
| 16:07.32 | DustyDingo | i just installed with module-assistent and it worked out of the box |
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| 16:07.44 | DustyDingo | haven't checked for glx support tho |
| 16:07.55 | babilen | DustyDingo: We discourage to use module-assistant these days, but please continue. |
| 16:08.09 | DustyDingo | babilen: so what's the way to go then? |
| 16:08.10 | Iridos | judd, builddep tth --release testing |
| 16:08.11 | judd | Package tth in wheezy -- Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9.0.0), flex, texlive, texlive-latex-extra. |
| 16:08.12 | hilbert94 | babilen: It is a production server, mainly a mailserver. So I do not want experiments right now. |
| 16:08.15 | ChrisH | Iridos: confirmed on a squeeze amd64 |
| 16:08.20 | babilen | DustyDingo: Which version of Debian do you use? |
| 16:08.20 | Iridos | judd, versions debhelper |
| 16:08.21 | judd | Package: debhelper on i386 -- lenny: 7.0.15; lenny-backports: 8.0.0~bpo50+2; squeeze: 8.0.0; squeeze-backports: 9.20120608~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 9.20120909~bpo60+1; sid: 9.20120909; wheezy: 9.20120909 |
| 16:08.26 | DustyDingo | testing |
| 16:08.39 | jelly | whoa, latestest dh |
| 16:08.40 | babilen | hilbert94: That's perfectly fine (hence my question what the box is used for) |
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| 16:09.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell DustyDingo -about nvidia dkms wheezy |
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| 16:09.15 | DustyDingo | it's just frustrating because normally this isn't an issue and it worked out of the box as expected but after a reboot X won't start |
| 16:09.26 | hilbert94 | So maybe I will try to compile the source package. |
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| 16:09.51 | Iridos | hilbert94, you'd need debhelper from backports to compile the one from wheezy... dunno if that still counts as "no experiments" |
| 16:09.59 | Iridos | but anyway, in case you decide to go that way |
| 16:10.09 | babilen | DustyDingo: the bot sent you installation instructions that make use of DKMS and use a minimal configuration file (not the nvidia-xconfig behemoth that is not needed). m-a is deprecated as DKMS takes care of recompilation if you install new kernels and such. |
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| 16:10.10 | Iridos | dpkg, tell hilbert94 -about ssb |
| 16:10.17 | Iridos | dpkg, tell hilbert94 about backports |
| 16:10.25 | babilen | Iridos: I think I've done that earlier :) |
| 16:10.30 | babilen | spam hilbert94 ! |
| 16:10.30 | sh4ring4n | dpkg, kick Iridos |
| 16:10.31 | dpkg | kicks Iridos in the crotch. |
| 16:10.38 | sh4ring4n | I just had to try that once |
| 16:10.40 | sh4ring4n | :D |
| 16:10.53 | zetheroo | I just installed Wheezy on a VM and somehow it's got no network connectivity ... |
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| 16:11.02 | Iridos | daintily removes sh4ring4ns crotch with a knife. |
| 16:11.04 | babilen | sh4ring4n: I hope you are satisfied now and that you do not have to do that again for the foreseeable future |
| 16:11.13 | Iridos | heh |
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| 16:11.38 | zetheroo | on the VM boot I see its saying it cannot read the interfaces file |
| 16:11.45 | Iridos | babilen, you did? |
| 16:11.52 | Iridos | babilen, went totally over my head |
| 16:11.59 | hilbert94 | Iridos: What is ssb? |
| 16:12.05 | babilen | hilbert94: simple sid backport |
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| 16:12.43 | Iridos | hilbert94, "simple sid backport", see factoid from dpkg in a private message. You can (obviously) replace "sid" with "wheezy" in that factoid |
| 16:12.51 | DustyDingo | babilen: i am trying that, thanks |
| 16:13.04 | DustyDingo | tho really weird why X worked at first and then not any more |
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| 16:13.27 | babilen | DustyDingo: I am not sure how well that works with the module-assistant packages. You might want to remove those (and any configuration you created) before continuing. |
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| 16:13.52 | DustyDingo | yeah, i have done that as good as possible for now |
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| 16:15.11 | mms_ | hi I am installing debian on vbox as guest os. host os is win 7. machine is on company intranet and has firewall. I have http proxy which works when using maven so I assume that if I try net install iso of debian for vm it should be able to configure package manager but it fails at that step. |
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| 16:15.42 | blip2 | mms_: vbox is using the proxy yeh? |
| 16:15.53 | DustyDingo | babilen: thx, it's working now |
| 16:15.55 | mms_ | blip2: yes I have setup that too. |
| 16:15.57 | ChrisH | mms_: apt needs the proxy set in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 16:16.06 | babilen | DustyDingo: Wonderful! :) |
| 16:16.12 | mms_ | chipb: I am doing install in first place. |
| 16:16.16 | DustyDingo | over the years i just got very confused with configuring X, i used to just write the entire config by hand,... |
| 16:16.19 | blip2 | ChrisH: you would want to set it on the vbox interface? ;s |
| 16:16.25 | mms_ | ChrisH: I am doing in first place |
| 16:16.37 | mms_ | blip2: I did it on vbox/file/proxy |
| 16:16.41 | DustyDingo | and nvidia stuff is always painful |
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| 16:17.37 | mms_ | blip2: I mean file /preferences/ proxy |
| 16:17.39 | ChrisH | blip2: I do not understand that question. I configure a debian inside a VBox the same way as if its running on real HW. |
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| 16:18.01 | nick_h | what would cause `ps u -p 12345` to show the user ID rather than the username of the process? |
| 16:18.07 | mms_ | ChrisH: I have things running fine on my home pc but this is on company pc |
| 16:18.08 | jhutchins | Doesn't the installer ask you for a proxy? |
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| 16:18.15 | mms_ | jhutchins: no |
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| 16:18.30 | mms_ | jhutchins: yes during the apt configuration and I do provide it but no good |
| 16:18.39 | mms_ | could be that those sites are blocked any ways ? |
| 16:18.52 | zinx | nick_h: no access to /etc/passwd? different ps implementation with different defaults? |
| 16:18.54 | babilen | DustyDingo: Well, you really just need a very little snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ for nvidia these days (see "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms wheezy" and "/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d") |
| 16:19.13 | mms_ | I did not check that but I tried few sites in the installer prompt for proxy but they all failed like one of MIT, ftp.debian etc |
| 16:19.34 | ChrisH | nick_h: username is too long, or the UID is unkown at the moment. getent passwd UID_or_username |
| 16:19.40 | mms_ | I can check tomorrow whether those sites are reachable from host browser in first place |
| 16:20.15 | nick_h | zinx: the username is shown for other processes, though |
| 16:20.16 | ChrisH | mms_: can you telnet to the company proxy and set a manual get? |
| 16:20.26 | jhutchins | mms_: The other possibility is that you're not actually getting a network connection. |
| 16:20.35 | nick_h | ChrisH: is a username is too long, its uid will be shown instead? |
| 16:20.51 | hilbert94 | Iridos: I just compiled tth from the source package. I have debhelper installed, but I think the one from squeeze. Why do you say I need debhelpber from wheezy? |
| 16:20.51 | mms_ | when guy put up new machine for me on network he called some one to enable the port....does it mean that my mac is registered for dhcp and thus when I try to use virtual bridge adapter it fails....I so am using NAT |
| 16:21.03 | mms_ | jhutchins: but when I use NAT still ? |
| 16:21.36 | mms_ | jhutchins: when I used bridged adapter it failed so I tried to use NAT but same results |
| 16:21.51 | ChrisH | nick_h: yes. example http://paste.debian.net/228227/ |
| 16:22.10 | mms_ | ChrisH: whats that ? |
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| 16:22.37 | jhutchins | mms_: Double nat usually doesn't work. |
| 16:22.40 | mms_ | ChrisH: I do not follow you ... |
| 16:23.39 | mms_ | jhutchins: again I do not follow you...currently my work pc ges IP using dhcp.....I tried that for vm using bridge adapter setting and it failed....so I tried NAT adapter.... |
| 16:23.42 | nick_h | ChrisH: well i'll be a monkey's uncle. i had no idea. is there a way to force `ps` to output the username? |
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| 16:24.05 | TaLaZ | anyone have an exploit ? |
| 16:24.06 | ChrisH | nick_h: then I need to point you to man ps := |
| 16:24.32 | Towzzer | ps u |
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| 16:25.23 | digdilem | ps aux covers most needs |
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| 16:26.55 | nick_h | ChrisH: a-hah! `ps -p 12345 -o "pid,user:16,command"` |
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| 16:27.01 | nick_h | ChrisH: thanks, mate. much appreciated |
| 16:27.26 | mms_ | so again can one explain what exactly the network hardware guys does to enable the lan drop for my machine...is he registering my mac and adding it to permitted macs in his dhcpd config ? |
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| 16:28.50 | mms_ | is that reason why my bridge adapter setting does not work ? |
| 16:28.55 | koollman | mms_: that's hard to know for sure. could be mac-based filter, or just dhcp registration. ask the network guys ? |
| 16:29.06 | ChrisH | nick_h: confirmed, works for me, too. exim user is another candidate for that |
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| 16:29.28 | mms_ | koollman: they do not tell me...whose level 1 support technicians are not good...they tell me they do not support linux |
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| 16:30.38 | koollman | mms_: well, if your network is blocked, you will need nat, rather than bridge. you may try to go through lvl1 support by telling that you have to register a new machine (probably not necessary to say it's a linux one) |
| 16:31.05 | mms_ | koollman: when the hardware guy was installing machine he called the other guys and told him to active...then while win 7 was booted he used internet explorer and tried to access some site multiple times...giving me feeling he is sending packet which should be then used to register/enable/filter etc. |
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| 16:31.58 | mms_ | koollman: they do the setup so I cannot pose that situation....if issue with windows they immediately will help and come by |
| 16:32.01 | ChrisH | mms_: did you setup your VBox for NAT or Bridged Network? Sounds like NAT would more fit your companies ideas. |
| 16:32.08 | koollman | mms_: ah. I think I know what they do then. learning is disabled on the switch port, and they enable it temporarily during the activation of your machine |
| 16:32.12 | mms_ | ChrisH: I tried both |
| 16:32.58 | mms_ | ChrisH: first I tried bridged network...it stalled at same step in install...so I guessed its not getting IP....so I tried NAT...and with and without proxy setting at both vbox and debian levels |
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| 16:33.12 | koollman | so, it's a mac based 'filter' of sort. switch won't learn the new mac adresse he sees. maybe they have a second level of filters for ip |
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| 16:33.51 | mms_ | koollman: they use dhcp |
| 16:33.51 | koollman | mms_: nat should work. the network will not 'see' your vm. but you will need to configure it to work. no external dhcp will be used |
| 16:34.15 | ChrisH | mms_: Can you reach any system in your company using ping/tesnet/ssh ? 'telnet proxy Port' should give a connected to |
| 16:34.54 | mms_ | koollman: I have not tried it...but as I said first maven was not working...so I did http proxy setup for it...then maven worked.... |
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| 16:35.09 | nick_h | if /var/run/ isn't world-writable, how are other processes supposed to create PID files? |
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| 16:35.58 | mms_ | ChrisH: actually I have not tried telnet to proxy or any machine...basically I am new in company and do not know of any unix boxes to which I can telnet...as I said with http proxy I can use maven fine. |
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| 16:37.17 | ChrisH | mms_: Then I still did not get your question. If you use a proxy from inside the VM maven is working, so use proxy for all other stuff, too. |
| 16:37.59 | mms_ | ChrisH: maven is from host...I am stuck at installing the vm ...at debain package manager step of install.... |
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| 16:38.48 | ChrisH | mms_: 1. use NAT in VBox 2. add the proxy in the installer when you get asked. Then it is expected to work. |
| 16:39.07 | mms_ | ChrisH: already done that...it did not work |
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| 16:39.17 | ChrisH | !did not work |
| 16:39.19 | mms_ | In fact I even tried to add proxy at vbox level |
| 16:40.46 | ChrisH | mms_: push a shell on installer and check 1. ifconfig -a 2. get your intranet webserver's IP on the host and ping it from inside the VM. 3. if that works, run telnet webserverip 80 and check if it gets a connected to. |
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| 16:44.40 | mms_ | ChrisH: when the net iso installer starts does it let me choose to select shell so then I can try ping the intranet web server. |
| 16:45.06 | ChrisH | mms_: it does... on ALT-F2, ALT-F3 |
| 16:45.46 | mms_ | ok...will try that tomorrow at work since they do not provide remote access to work machine |
| 16:45.55 | mms_ | I mean remote desktop kind of access |
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| 16:49.50 | ChrisH | mms_: what is your timezone? |
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| 16:50.55 | mms_ | ChrisH: India/Mumbai/Kolkata |
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| 16:51.39 | ChrisH | mms_: OK. see you tomorrow. I am off now. Work done for today. |
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| 16:52.05 | mms_ | bye |
| 16:52.51 | mms_ | looks we have some thing to try for now...so I will also logoff |
| 16:52.53 | mms_ | bye |
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| 16:55.44 | ajcc | Hello, is it possible to change the colors/palette in the uvesafb frambuffer?, can't find an option for it anywhere and I'm begining to think it's not possible. |
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| 17:04.22 | sfan5 | f2fs works :) /dev/sda7 on /mnt type f2fs (rw,relatime,background_gc_on,user_xattr,acl,active_logs=6) |
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| 17:10.34 | floogy | Hi, I got issues to get utf-8 characters right encoded in mail() subjects. The Textbody is just fine with mail("$Email","Re:$Betreff (Eingangsbestätigung Ihrer Kontaktaufnahme)""Guten Tag, $Name,\nvielen Dank für Ihren Besuch auf meiner Homepage!\n...\n\n","From: info@bla.de\nMIME-Version: 1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8"); |
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| 17:12.12 | floogy | This is from a contact.php form. |
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| 17:13.05 | AndroUser | Is the nmap source code avaialble anywhere |
| 17:13.16 | zinx | AndroUser: apt-get source nmap |
| 17:13.57 | AndroUser | Any online pages |
| 17:14.19 | AndroUser | Dint have access to a linux comp atm |
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| 17:15.47 | cantido | AndroUser: you can get a tarball from their page |
| 17:16.07 | AndroUser | Excellent will look harder thanka |
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| 17:16.39 | cantido | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nmap+source+download |
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| 17:20.40 | iori | hello |
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| 17:20.53 | iori | does anyone know how i can enter java channel? |
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| 17:21.31 | cantido | iori: with a crowbar and a bucket of jam |
| 17:21.45 | iori | -.- |
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| 17:22.01 | socomm | iori: /j #java |
| 17:22.08 | iori | its invite only |
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| 17:22.15 | iori | how can i grab one? |
| 17:22.16 | socomm | iori: i was able to join just now |
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| 17:22.34 | themill | iori: it's ##java |
| 17:22.35 | iori | Cannot join #java (Channel is invite only). |
| 17:22.38 | cantido | iori: the bucket of jam is an offering so that you get an invite.. |
| 17:24.05 | lord_rob | Hi ! Is aptitude compatible with multiarch ? |
| 17:24.37 | themill | yes |
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| 17:24.55 | lord_rob | iori: (register a nickname) |
| 17:25.04 | cantido | iori: no, I am deadly serious about the jam |
| 17:25.18 | kinras | Anyone know what kind of Screen the Galaxy Note 10.1 has? Its it LCD or AMOLED? |
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| 17:25.28 | iori | :) ok thank you |
| 17:25.29 | cantido | lord_rob: I think so, I can install i386 and amd64 packages in aptitude |
| 17:25.35 | cantido | kinras: google it |
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| 17:26.35 | mtn | what! use a search enginge? outrageous!! |
| 17:26.44 | mtn | engine |
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| 17:27.05 | cantido | yeah, why have google.com when you can ask random questions in totally unrelated irc channels |
| 17:27.07 | TheWarden | Hi, does anyone know how to go about getting NVIDIA GeForece GT610M video driver for Debian? The x.org log file reports "No devices detected" and "Fatal server error: No screens found". |
| 17:27.13 | cantido | google really are missing a trick |
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| 17:27.38 | kinras | Says PLS TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors |
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| 17:27.45 | kinras | Anyone know how a PLS screen is for eye strain? |
| 17:27.54 | cantido | doesn't care |
| 17:28.11 | themill | kinras: wrong channel? |
| 17:28.36 | AndroUser | Is it really your fucking business punk |
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| 17:28.51 | themill | AndroUser: ? |
| 17:30.38 | lord_rob | I ask this because I get messages like : "gcc-4.4-base:i386 conflicts with gcc-4.4-base" whereas apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't complain of anything |
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| 17:31.18 | cantido | lord_rob: do you have both installed? |
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| 17:31.39 | tgs3 | how to get gcc 4.5 or newer on debian stable+backports ? |
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| 17:32.21 | lord_rob | My goal is to install Skype which is i386 only |
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| 17:33.26 | cantido | lord_rob: I have that installed via multiarch.. IIRC it has the process documented on the debian wiki |
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| 17:33.58 | lord_rob | for skype ? |
| 17:34.06 | cantido | yes |
| 17:34.10 | cantido | http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
| 17:34.23 | TheWarden | I'm trying to locate something online about this but thus far haven't found anything yet. |
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| 17:34.31 | cantido | about half way down the page it explains what to do for amd64 |
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| 17:36.52 | lord_rob | great ! Thanks for the link cantido |
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| 17:37.45 | tgs3 | how bad idea would it be to install packaged from testing into my stable? I need gcc4.5 or higher |
| 17:38.13 | themill | tgs3: you could either upgrade to wheezy or create a wheezy chroot in your squeeze system with debootstrap / schroot. |
| 17:38.22 | TheWarden | even if there is some other driver that would work for a Nvidia GT 610M that would be fine too... I'm not using a resource intense setup for video. The system would be just have X Window system with VLC playing audio and video content full screen. |
| 17:38.33 | tgs3 | so - http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gcc |
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| 17:38.43 | TheWarden | btw I'm using Squeeze |
| 17:38.45 | cantido | tgs3: you can build gcc4.5 on stable |
| 17:39.12 | tgs3 | themill: cantido: would it be much work to have gcc-4.6 in backports for stable? if its easy maybe I could help |
| 17:39.44 | themill | I think making wheezy stable in the next month or two would be a higher priority |
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| 17:40.31 | cantido | tgs3: do you know if there were c++ abi changes between what is in squeeze and 4.6? |
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| 17:40.43 | cantido | is so backporting GCC would break all c++ stuff |
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| 17:40.55 | tgs3 | cantido: I dunno. maybe #gcc ? I will ask there now, join us |
| 17:40.57 | ElDiabolo | Hi. How do I find out which keyring was used to sign a package (without installing it) ? |
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| 17:41.09 | jirka_on_d | could somebody recommend me open source virtualization platform please? |
| 17:41.21 | themill | ElDiabolo: packages aren't signed, the Release file is signed |
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| 17:41.40 | cantido | jirka_on_d: for desktop vm use virtualbox is pretty good |
| 17:41.47 | themill | jirka_on_d: kvm / qemu, vbox, xen |
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| 17:43.02 | cantido | tgs3: If you only want to compile one thing with GCC it's probably easier to build it yourself IMHO |
| 17:43.20 | ElDiabolo | So how do I find out which keyring was used to sign a packages release file ? |
| 17:43.26 | jirka_on_d | cantido, themill> thank you |
| 17:44.09 | ElDiabolo | And where do I find said release file? |
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| 17:45.15 | themill | ElDiabolo: gpgv /var/lib/apt/lists/http.debian.net_debian_dists_sid_InRelease |
| 17:45.22 | themill | dpkg: tell ElDiabolo about secure apt |
| 17:45.41 | tgs3 | cantido: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/abi.html |
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| 17:46.44 | tgs3 | cantido: if Im reading correctly from part "GCC 3.0.0" the list of ABI names, then all gcc 4.x have compatible ABI with eachother> |
| 17:48.23 | cantido | tgs3: I'm not sure.. I can remember there being an issue with C++ on some really old debian with 4.x when I built GCC 4.7 on it |
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| 17:48.39 | cantido | I haven't got enough time to read through all that stuff either ;) |
| 17:49.11 | AndroUser | Let the ruler rule amd stop.trying to overthrow the land , fimd another.land |
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| 17:49.41 | tgs3 | cantido: GCC 4.4.2: GLIBCXX_3.4.13, CXXABI_1.3.3 -vs- GCC 4.6.1: GLIBCXX_3.4.16, CXXABI_1.3.5 so, problem |
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| 17:50.30 | tgs3 | scratches head... why was AndroUser muted? |
| 17:51.05 | cantido | looks like a bot |
| 17:51.57 | cantido | tgs3: again, if you only need gcc to compile one thing.. building your own is basically installing two -dev packages and running ./configure; make; make install; |
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| 17:53.09 | cantido | if you want to use C++ you might get away with it or your might have to start making new versions of all of the libraries you need outside of the normal library paths.. lots of headache ;) |
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| 17:53.56 | bluesm | What "filtered port" mean (as result of nmap tool) ? |
| 17:55.13 | nkuttler | bluesm: man nmap knows |
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| 17:59.25 | tgs3 | cantido: good idea I will try that |
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| 18:00.37 | jacklk | Hello, I need to use kernel 3.*, shall I download testing? |
| 18:01.20 | mtn | jacklk: did you look in backports? |
| 18:01.30 | jacklk | no |
| 18:01.38 | mtn | jacklk: well.... |
| 18:01.47 | jacklk | backports? |
| 18:01.49 | themill | dpkg: tell jacklk about bpo kernel |
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| 18:04.38 | kinras | Is the Surface the only unit with sub-pixel rendering>? |
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| 18:04.58 | kinras | "For example, it bested the 1,280x800 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 on small-text readability -- due to Surface's sub-pixel rendering -- and on calibration" |
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| 18:04.59 | mtn | kinras: still confused by what channel you are in? |
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| 18:06.37 | Armand | mtn, seems so.. |
| 18:06.56 | Armand | Saying that.. no-one cared in ##hardware either. :P |
| 18:07.03 | mtn | ha ha |
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| 18:27.42 | DarkUranium | hey |
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| 18:27.52 | DarkUranium | does there exist any tools to "automagically" transfer one server to another? |
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| 18:28.25 | DarkUranium | running server (means no copying of images -- but it will be remounted as RO) |
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| 18:29.30 | ompaul | DarkUranium: if not a VM then what, if not hardware VMs what have you got there, what kind of server what services are you trying to keep running etc etc |
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| 18:30.33 | DarkUranium | ompaul, I'd say ssh and apache2 -- the former for obvious reasons (access), the latter so that I can keep up webpages saying that they're temporarily down >_< |
| 18:30.50 | DarkUranium | ompaul, and both are physical computers |
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| 18:31.19 | ompaul | what is running on apache2 |
| 18:31.33 | DarkUranium | a bunch of websites |
| 18:31.36 | ompaul | is it straight forward web pages or some perverse stuff with a database |
| 18:31.44 | ompaul | or something else |
| 18:31.46 | DarkUranium | ompaul, not even forwarding (the domains will stay) |
| 18:31.54 | DarkUranium | ompaul, just temporary "we're down ... for now" messages |
| 18:32.33 | DarkUranium | doesn't have to be stable -- only needs to hold for about, uh, let's say 48ish hours for the transfer + DNS propagation |
| 18:32.36 | ompaul | DarkUranium: I'm not asking the questions you need |
| 18:33.00 | ompaul | cos basically I'm not understanding what you have - and what you actually want to do |
| 18:33.00 | DarkUranium | ompaul, my question is, as stated, if there exists any tools to migrate one server to another |
| 18:33.16 | DarkUranium | say, to transfer users, data, etc etc... |
| 18:33.33 | DarkUranium | ompaul, I'm trying to migrate one server to another, it's that simple |
| 18:33.37 | DarkUranium | upgraded the servers, see. |
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| 18:33.50 | ompaul | now you are starting to give useful info |
| 18:33.57 | ompaul | so they are not the same version |
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| 18:34.07 | cantido | Unless you have some "control panel" software that can migrate it all the best you can do is copy the filesystem |
| 18:34.11 | ompaul | you want something rsync to copy the data |
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| 18:34.19 | cantido | or manually transfer all the data you want |
| 18:34.19 | DarkUranium | both are 6, and I can update the latter before the migration |
| 18:34.20 | kittonian | hi all. i'm having an issue with @reboot commands in crontab not running at boot time. this used to work just fine and after upgrading to the latest distro it does not. |
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| 18:34.36 | DarkUranium | cantido, ompaul, yes, but which dirs should I move and which should I not? |
| 18:34.46 | ompaul | DarkUranium: that's not the question you asked |
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| 18:34.55 | ompaul | and you didn't answer mine yet |
| 18:34.56 | DarkUranium | ompaul, what did I ask then? |
| 18:35.06 | DarkUranium | ompaul, and what question? |
| 18:35.17 | cantido | DarkUranium: how can we know what you should copy.. you should know that ;) |
| 18:35.18 | ompaul | oes there exist any tools to "automagically" transfer one server to another? |
| 18:35.30 | ompaul | DarkUranium: ^^ that is your question |
| 18:35.32 | blurnissanburn | Image it |
| 18:35.46 | ompaul | what I asked you was - what functionality did you want to move |
| 18:35.56 | ompaul | you haven't said anything specific |
| 18:36.04 | DarkUranium | blurnissanburn, <DarkUranium> running server (means no copying of images -- but it will be remounted as RO) |
| 18:36.08 | ompaul | I abandon you to the four winds of the storm |
| 18:36.16 | DarkUranium | ompaul, I said one server to another |
| 18:36.20 | DarkUranium | ompaul, means, the whole damn thing. |
| 18:36.28 | DarkUranium | blurnissanburn, besides, I don't have physical access to it anyways |
| 18:36.36 | ompaul | DarkUranium: no - if it is the whole damn thing what is the whole damn thing running |
| 18:36.59 | blurnissanburn | Can anyone update me to whats current in the computer Soros |
| 18:37.05 | DarkUranium | ompaul, plenty of stuff, but as stated, that stuff doesn't need to run during the migration |
| 18:37.07 | ompaul | DarkUranium: a bunch of websites - what is that wordpress |
| 18:37.11 | ompaul | or what |
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| 18:37.39 | ompaul | DarkUranium: without understanding the question I will now answer, use rsync that will help |
| 18:37.41 | ompaul | have a nice day |
| 18:37.49 | DarkUranium | ompaul, yeah, very friendly. |
| 18:37.50 | ompaul | DarkUranium: see, not that useful |
| 18:38.04 | DarkUranium | and here I thought this community was decent. |
| 18:38.07 | ompaul | DarkUranium: I'll ask you one last time, what are the websites |
| 18:38.36 | ompaul | DarkUranium: the community is decent |
| 18:38.43 | ompaul | but guessing stuff |
| 18:38.51 | DarkUranium | ompaul, says you. |
| 18:38.56 | ompaul | won't help you |
| 18:38.59 | cantido | DarkUranium: you are just saying "I wanted to copy everything" without knowing exactly what "everything" is |
| 18:39.08 | ompaul | I have no idea what you have there |
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| 18:39.13 | cantido | DarkUranium: no one here can guess what stuff is running on your machines |
| 18:39.18 | DarkUranium | cantido, I mean **everything** -- installed packages, configuration, logs... absolutely everything. |
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| 18:39.27 | blurnissanburn | Hi |
| 18:39.32 | cantido | DarkUranium: copy the whole filesystem then |
| 18:39.46 | DarkUranium | I did say "server" not "parts of server". |
| 18:39.58 | cantido | DarkUranium: what is a server? |
| 18:40.00 | ompaul | DarkUranium: then you diskimage with dd |
| 18:40.07 | ompaul | and your nics won't work |
| 18:40.11 | MO_Handes | what is a good editor for php? I want something like gedit that hase auto-indent and automatically insert tabs |
| 18:40.31 | blurnissanburn | Gimp |
| 18:40.33 | ksk | vim |
| 18:40.37 | ompaul | DarkUranium: your question is None Trivial - your information is trivial |
| 18:41.27 | MO_Handes | ksk, I want something easier and graphical |
| 18:41.38 | ompaul | DarkUranium: I can copy a full file system but it needs changes to nics and so forth or you can't get on the internet again - so to understand the question which is none trivial we tried to get additional info, uyou have not been forthcoming so I'll say this, grab your data with rsync and tidy it up |
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| 18:42.09 | ompaul | DarkUranium: so I suppose the answer is no there is no automagic tool unless you have vm's |
| 18:42.56 | LRN | anyone knows easy-to-use 3d graphics performance benchmark/test for Debian? |
| 18:43.12 | LRN | apt-cache search is not very forthcoming |
| 18:43.40 | ompaul | DarkUranium: when I first started using computers back in the late seventies I came across a fantastic saying, you can't get there from here, I'm going to say with the info provided and the idea of how the world works, you can't get there from here |
| 18:43.40 | format_c | LRN, glxgears |
| 18:43.51 | cantido | format_c: I hope that's a joke.. |
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| 18:44.14 | ompaul | !glxgears |
| 18:44.14 | dpkg | glxgears is, like, an OpenGL demo, or <bogomips> for graphics cards. It is not a benchmark. In fact, in recent versions you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark option in order to report FPS information. Provided by the mesa-utils package. |
| 18:44.27 | format_c | OK |
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| 18:46.33 | DarkUranium | ompaul, leaving for a more friendly channel. Thanks for nothing. |
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| 18:47.07 | q66 | <LRN> anyone knows easy-to-use 3d graphics performance benchmark/test for Debian? |
| 18:47.09 | q66 | lightsmark. |
| 18:47.28 | q66 | http://dee.cz/lightsmark/ |
| 18:48.32 | jelly-home | last updated 2008, but still a bit more sensible than running glxgears |
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| 18:49.13 | LRN | q66, are there lightmark packages for Debian? |
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| 18:49.23 | q66 | LRN, I'm not sure. I think I recall it being in repos |
| 18:49.37 | q66 | hm, apparently not. |
| 18:49.49 | q66 | but the archive contains a statically linked binary for both 64 and 32bit Linux |
| 18:49.53 | q66 | so it'll work just fine on Debian |
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| 18:50.40 | q66 | jelly-home, that's not a concern - Lightsmark uses tech used in real games, and 2008 is quite up to date concerning gfx tech in average game |
| 18:50.43 | jelly-home | LRN: no, there aren't any. I can confirm the 32bit binaries work on i386 wheezy |
| 18:51.14 | LRN | ok |
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| 18:52.50 | jelly-home | I can also confirm that nvidia blob people have definitely tuned their latest drivers for it, I got almost exactly double the number after they announced the driver update when steam got out |
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| 18:56.52 | jelly-home | you have to run it with the correct working directory tho, like (cd /opt/Lightsmark2008.2.0/bin/pc-linux32; ./backend) |
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| 19:10.21 | TheWarden | mmm I believe this package nvidia-glx will provided me with Nvidia GeForce 610M support so I can get my X Window System working again. It is written as GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M however there is no such thing as nForce 610M as far as I can find on Nvidia's web site. |
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| 19:14.45 | yuhbh | how to do debian to use static IP for a cetrain interface? |
| 19:15.37 | babilen | yuhbh: How do you configure your network? |
| 19:16.20 | yuhbh | i didn't do anything so it should be dhcp |
| 19:16.33 | babilen | yuhbh: But you might want to read http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration and the documentation linked in "/msg dpkg interfaces" |
| 19:16.56 | babilen | yuhbh: I meant: Do you configure your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces now or do you use something like network-manager to do so? |
| 19:17.29 | Yoshi1 | i'm having an issue with SDL and turbo8 apt-get wants to install turbo 8 along with the sdl stuff but it cant |
| 19:17.36 | babilen | yuhbh: Did you just install Debian and have no idea what I am talking about? |
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| 19:17.49 | yuhbh | yes. |
| 19:17.58 | babilen | dpkg: tell Yoshi1 -about bat |
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| 19:18.20 | babilen | yuhbh: Ok, no problem (but you have to tell me if you don't understand something I ask you, so I know that) ;) |
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| 19:18.37 | babilen | yuhbh: Did you install the desktop environment and which version of Debian did you install? |
| 19:18.44 | draginx | Is there a way to make a user "dan" be able to edit files that are "www:www" ? I tried adding "dan" to the group "www" |
| 19:18.49 | draginx | but it doesn't seem to allow me to edit files |
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| 19:19.10 | cantido | draginx: you need to allow the group write permissions |
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| 19:19.15 | yuhbh | no its base system of debian 6 |
| 19:19.17 | patterson | vegas |
| 19:19.25 | babilen | draginx: Well, that files need "g+w" for that to be able (group writable) and you need to relogin with the user to ensure that that user is actually a member of that group |
| 19:19.26 | draginx | Ah cantido could u lead me to where I can find out on where to do this? :) |
| 19:19.32 | draginx | ah |
| 19:19.40 | babilen | yuhbh: So you have no graphical interface right now? |
| 19:19.47 | yuhbh | yes |
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| 19:19.51 | draginx | and to add "g+w" how would I go about to do this? |
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| 19:19.59 | draginx | without overwriting all of the file permissions |
| 19:20.04 | draginx | id also need read obviously |
| 19:20.10 | babilen | yuhbh: Ok, do you plan to install a graphical interface? What will you use this machine for? |
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| 19:20.20 | cantido | draginx: chmod g+w will just add write for group |
| 19:20.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell draginx -about general cli tutorial |
| 19:20.37 | draginx | cantido: oh chmod wont overwrite the previous chmod? |
| 19:20.52 | yuhbh | it is intended as SMB server |
| 19:21.07 | cantido | draginx: it won't remove the permissions that are already set, no |
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| 19:21.21 | draginx | oh awesome then thanks! :) |
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| 19:21.26 | yuhbh | so it will do without gui |
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| 19:21.44 | babilen | draginx: Read the bit on chmod in the documentation out bot just sent you and "man chmod" -- I am sure there is other beginner friendly documentation out there. But in short: You need to make the files group writable |
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| 19:21.59 | draginx | right |
| 19:22.04 | Yoshi1 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/228297/ |
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| 19:22.56 | draginx | worked like a charm :) muchos gracias |
| 19:22.59 | babilen | yuhbh: Ok, in that case interfaces are configured in a file (/etc/network/interfaces) read http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration and "man 5 interfaces" to understand how to configure interfaces in there. |
| 19:23.54 | babilen | yuhbh: If you want a static configuration you are looking for "iface eth0 inet static\n ..." part (assuming you are configuring eth0 (first ethernet interface)) -- make sure to include "auto eth0" if you want that interface to come up during boot (if you want that) |
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| 19:26.11 | babilen | draginx: I'd recommend to start with http://linuxcommand.org/ and then work through the other tutorials in "/msg dpkg general cli tutorial" -- Once you are done with that you can read http://debian-handbook.info and you should be able to handle most everyday tasks on Debian (and more) just fine |
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| 19:44.36 | babilen | Yoshi1: Where is libjpeg-turbo8 from? |
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| 19:45.06 | frienz | hi |
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| 19:45.44 | babilen | Yoshi1: You also forgot to include the "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy PKG1 .. PKGN" output (in particular apt-cache policy libjpeg-turbo8) |
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| 19:54.05 | Yoshi1 | babilen: i have a bigger issue now |
| 19:54.47 | Yoshi1 | babilen: apt-get is stuck on an issue -f doesnt fix it and i dont have synaptic anymore and i cant install synaptic until i get past this -f problem |
| 19:55.45 | jhutchins | Yoshi1: That's ok, synaptic is just a GUI interface to the underlying system, if apt-get isn't working synaptic wouldn't help. |
| 19:55.55 | jhutchins | Yoshi1: What is the problem with apt-get? |
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| 19:56.06 | Yoshi1 | jhutchins: actually it would because fixing broken package problems is quick and easy for me with synaptic |
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| 19:56.12 | babilen | reminds Yoshi1 -about "/msg dpkg bat" |
| 19:56.24 | babilen | Yoshi1: How so? |
| 19:56.56 | Yoshi1 | jhutchins: it's trying to install libjpeg-turbo8 because turbo8-dev is there but it cant because turbo8 is apparently in some other package |
| 19:56.58 | babilen | doesn't even know which version Yoshi1 tries to run, still wonders where the -turbo8 package is from and has no idea what the current issue is |
| 19:57.20 | Yoshi1 | babilen: i just got to the broken packages custom filter tab in synaptic and remove as needed |
| 19:57.39 | babilen | Yoshi1: Show us + apt-cache policy output + sources.list + all other information that you deem relevant or helpful on http://paste.debian.net |
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| 19:58.10 | jhutchins | Yoshi1: Include the command that's failing and it's output. |
| 19:58.13 | babilen | Yoshi1: "aptitude search ~b" + "aptitude/apt-get remove" you definitely don't need synaptic for anything |
| 19:58.48 | babilen | But please show us the output + requested information first |
| 19:58.59 | Yoshi1 | http://paste.debian.net/228308/ |
| 19:59.36 | Yoshi1 | http://paste.debian.net/228310/ |
| 19:59.46 | babilen | Yoshi1: single pastebin if possible :) |
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| 20:00.06 | Yoshi1 | as for other info i dont have any other info i dont know what would be deemed helpful and *sighs* |
| 20:00.16 | PhoenixSTF | hey guys, how bad is it to have sarge and etch has production serer nowadays? |
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| 20:00.56 | Yoshi1 | babilen: apt-get auto remove wont work it wants me to use apt-get -f install |
| 20:01.00 | Yoshi1 | which also doesnt fix it |
| 20:01.02 | babilen | Yoshi1: As mentioned earlier: The output of the command that is failing and "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libjpeg-turbo8" woule be helpful |
| 20:01.04 | jhutchins | Frankendebian! |
| 20:01.20 | Armand | Frankenfurter! |
| 20:01.22 | Yoshi1 | because it isnt an install problem i have to remoev packages |
| 20:01.23 | babilen | Yoshi1: then run "apt-get -f install" and show us the output |
| 20:01.25 | Armand | sorry.... |
| 20:01.43 | TheWarden | I'm trying to install nvidia-glx but it says its not found yet I see it at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nvidia-glx |
| 20:01.57 | jelly-home | TheWarden: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 20:02.06 | Yoshi1 | http://paste.debian.net/228311/ |
| 20:02.06 | jelly-home | TheWarden: which debian release are you using? |
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| 20:02.15 | Yoshi1 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/228311/ |
| 20:02.28 | jelly-home | oh, squeeze |
| 20:02.45 | Yoshi1 | autoremove wants to remove everything or damn near |
| 20:02.46 | jelly-home | TheWarden: then also /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
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| 20:03.04 | TheWarden | jelly-home: Squeeze |
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| 20:03.53 | Yoshi1 | babilen: apt-get install -f wants to install it but it cant i need to remove that package from the install and everything depending on it |
| 20:04.01 | Yoshi1 | but i cant cause apt-get doesnt allow it |
| 20:05.16 | TheWarden | jelly-home: maybe I'm going about this the wrong way but I'm getting "No devices detected" and "Fatal server error: No screens found" in x.org log file. I had a system setup and now that hard drive was cloned and put into a new system with different hardware so I'm not getting a GUI to display anymore. |
| 20:05.24 | TheWarden | I have a Nvidia GeForce 610M |
| 20:05.41 | yuhbh | Yoshi1: dpkg can do this but the package system will not be usable after this |
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| 20:06.09 | Yoshi1 | yuhbh: yeah i kind of need a useable system |
| 20:06.17 | TheWarden | If there is some other driver I can use that would suffice that is not non-free then I'm more then willing just not sure where to go from here. |
| 20:07.03 | jelly-home | TheWarden: install nvidia-detect and run it, then pastebin the result |
| 20:07.11 | Yoshi1 | yuhbh: though theres only 4 or 5 packages related to this libjpeg-turbo8 so if i can get dpkg to remove only them and the turbo8 it shouldnt break the system should it? |
| 20:07.18 | babilen | Yoshi1: Please run "apt-cache policy jibjpeg-turbo8" and /show us the output/ -- best /append/ it (and every paste hereafter) to http://paste.debian.net/228308/ (paste as new at the bottom) |
| 20:07.41 | jelly-home | jibs babilen |
| 20:08.12 | LtL | Yoshi1: if i'm not mistaken, libjpeg-turbo8 is an ubuntu file |
| 20:08.26 | babilen | Yoshi1: And your sources.list needs a bit of cleaning up. You have a wild mixture regarding main contrib and non-free there and I would strongly recomment to clean that up |
| 20:08.55 | babilen | LtL: libjpeg-turbo8 is certainly not in Debian, but Yoshi1 refuses to provide any real information on that |
| 20:08.56 | LtL | Yoshi1: you've been trying to break your box for days, congratulations, i think you won. |
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| 20:09.04 | mactimes | Hi. I have a domain hosted on a public server in the ISP premises and would like to have a mail server located in my office, to keep backups of sent mail using IMAP, which would also download messages received by the ISP. Would that be a smarthost or satellite configuration? |
| 20:09.06 | jelly-home | LtL: worse, it's an ubuntu package name! |
| 20:09.30 | babilen | LtL: Oh, did I miss something fun in the last days? |
| 20:09.37 | Yoshi1 | babilen: shit i clicked on your link and my taskbar is swamped with windows opening |
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| 20:09.57 | Yoshi1 | babilen: how do i append anyway |
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| 20:10.48 | babilen | Yoshi1: You click "Paste as new" at the bottom of the paste (as mentioned above) |
| 20:10.51 | Yoshi1 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/228313/ |
| 20:11.05 | babilen | Yoshi1: Which link? |
| 20:11.05 | Yoshi1 | sorry i was in a bit of a panic mode |
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| 20:11.55 | Yoshi1 | babilen: dont worry pidgin just isnt opening links pasted here in iceweasel and i dont have any other browser so i get flooded with crap on my task bar i'm working around it |
| 20:12.09 | babilen | Yoshi1: Ok, so you broke your system by installing packages from third-party repositories (that suwako whatever) probably meant for Ubuntu or some other distribution that is based-on-Debian |
| 20:12.10 | corppneq | Debian won't boot. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/img20130124171253.jpg/ Can somebody help? |
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| 20:13.02 | Yoshi1 | babilen: the suwako repo is there for the bumblebee package |
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| 20:13.55 | MutantTurkish1 | Hi I did a fresh CD install but didn't have network access. I do now and have my networking setup, but not my mirrors |
| 20:14.04 | Yoshi1 | babilen: http://suwako.nomanga.net/ |
| 20:14.16 | MutantTurkish1 | I edited my /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect a mirror, but am getting a very strange error when runnning apt-get update |
| 20:14.57 | corppneq | I just added a new HDD to my system to extend the lvm. |
| 20:14.59 | MutantTurkish1 | Encountered a section wit no Package: header \n E: Problem with Mergelist /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.eftel.com_debian_dists_sqeeze_main_binary-amd64_packages \n The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened |
| 20:15.00 | MutantTurkish1 | any ideas? |
| 20:15.21 | corppneq | Where is the best place to ask for help? |
| 20:15.37 | Yoshi1 | babilen: but yeah quite possibly |
| 20:15.38 | babilen | Yoshi1: But I am running out of time for this evening - I would recommend to /do not/ use that suwako repo with Debian again. You can try to remove the libjpeg-turbo8 mess you have there manually by running "dpkg --remove" or "dpkg --purge" with relevant packages. It also looks as if you removed some metapackage or the dependency of some metapackage (gnome probably) which causes apt-get to propose that you run "apt-get autoremove" to remove all ... |
| 20:15.44 | babilen | ... these unneeded packages. You might want to clean that up too. |
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| 20:16.43 | babilen | Yoshi1: The packages in that repo are obviously not meant for Debian and break Debian. I would not recommend to use them as they are clearly broken |
| 20:17.43 | yuhbh | wonders why would someone need a custom libjpeg library |
| 20:18.04 | Yoshi1 | babilen: hmmm but they are in the debian repo instructions for installing bumble bee |
| 20:18.06 | babilen | yuhbh: figured out the interface configuration? |
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| 20:18.50 | yuhbh | babilen: should I reboot to apply the changes? |
| 20:18.53 | babilen | Yoshi1: well, there are a lot of suboptimal repositories around |
| 20:19.05 | yuhbh | because simple down/up interface doesn't work |
| 20:19.11 | Yoshi1 | alright well whatever i remove them from the list and update |
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| 20:19.52 | babilen | yuhbh: No, you don't have to. Just use "ifdown -a ; ifup -a" if you want to simulate a reboot or bring specific interfaces up/down with "ifup IFACE" or "ifdown IFACE" (e.g. ifup eth0) |
| 20:20.22 | babilen | will be back later |
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| 20:22.34 | Yoshi1 | grrrr dammit kpgd hit a dependency error |
| 20:22.40 | TheWarden | jelly-home: okay |
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| 20:25.46 | Yoshi1 | ok got past that i think i can start fixing the system |
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| 20:32.33 | bluesm | What is the "login" for the routers. Such when you go to browser and on 80 port you get login form ? |
| 20:33.13 | bluesm | Is it http request for login ? |
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| 20:34.48 | abrotman | bluesm: in Debian ? |
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| 20:35.30 | bluesm | abrotman: ask #networking :P |
| 20:36.02 | abrotman | ... |
| 20:36.44 | TheWarden | jelly-home: I tried doing apt-get install nvidia-detect and it returns "Unable to locate package nvidia-detect". BTW, since its not booting into X Window I am in recovery mode. |
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| 20:42.07 | jelly-home | TheWarden: you are still missing non-free sources then |
| 20:42.56 | jelly-home | TheWarden: oh, my bad, it seems it only got split in 295.* |
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| 20:46.10 | smw | Is there any way I can see what packages depend on another package? |
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| 20:47.19 | koollman | smw: apt-cache rdepends somepackage |
| 20:47.25 | smw | thanks |
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| 20:47.46 | jelly-home | judd: file bin/nvidia-detect |
| 20:47.51 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:47.55 | jelly-home | meh |
| 20:48.25 | jelly-home | TheWarden: oh well. You might try the newer version of the drivers from squeeze-backports |
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| 20:53.31 | jelly-home | !bdo |
| 20:53.32 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 20:58.43 | jhutchins | Is it maybe a part of the nvidia package from nvidia? |
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| 21:01.29 | jelly-home | not in squeeze says the bot, and I trust it |
| 21:01.46 | jelly-home | ,v nvidia-detect |
| 21:01.47 | judd | Package: nvidia-detect on i386 -- squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; sid/non-free: 304.64-4; wheezy/non-free: 304.64-4; experimental/non-free: 313.18-1 |
| 21:02.18 | jelly-home | see, squeeze-backports has it, but that version probably also works with 610M |
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| 21:03.39 | TheWarden | jelly-home: well wait a sec, I did edit /etc/apt/sources.list and added non-free to end of each line starting with deb. I then did apt-get update and then apt-get install nvidia-detect but reported back as "Unable to locate package nvidia-detect". |
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| 21:06.12 | TheWarden | I'll try backports |
| 21:06.15 | jelly-home | TheWarden: yeah, it's not there at all, my bad. You also needed to add "contrib" in addition to existing "main" and "non-free", btw |
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| 21:10.24 | TheWarden | jelly-home: so you are saying to have this line in /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main non-free contrib ? |
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| 21:11.26 | eptalon | heyas |
| 21:12.01 | eptalon | Is there an easy way to recover data from a hdd, if it doesn't identify properly, using debian tools? |
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| 21:12.45 | eptalon | hdd seems to work fine, but I am unable to mount it, as it seems to have borked partition info (as to filesystem |
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| 21:13.39 | zykotick9 | eptalon: you might want to try testdisk/photorec (same package) |
| 21:14.13 | cra1g321 | the package will be testdisk, then use photorec to recover files |
| 21:14.53 | eptalon | trying |
| 21:16.17 | TheWarden | argh this is nuts... I added backports and still it can't find the package nvidia-detect. |
| 21:16.47 | TheWarden | I did apt-get -t squeeze-backports install nvidia-detect |
| 21:17.06 | zykotick9 | eptalon: just for completeness, testdisk is used to recover partitions - where photorec is for files |
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| 21:17.33 | jelly-home | TheWarden: forgot to apt-get update? |
| 21:17.35 | eptalon | zykotick9: looks good |
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| 21:18.42 | TheWarden | jelly-home: nope |
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| 21:19.40 | eptalon | so, to correct partition table info, I'd use testdisk |
| 21:20.06 | eptalon | and in any case, work with an image file |
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| 21:26.06 | TheWarden | when in recovery mode does that make SSHD not useable? I'm trying to connect into this box to make things easier for me but it won't connect. I can connect from the box to another machine but not into it. Rather odd. |
| 21:26.19 | TheWarden | can't get this video issue fixed argh man frustrating. |
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| 21:26.33 | jelly-home | TheWarden: yes. you'd have to mount /var and start the ssh service manually |
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| 21:27.03 | jhutchins | Does networking start in recovery mode? |
| 21:27.21 | jelly-home | ... probably? O:-| |
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| 21:27.51 | eptalon | firewall? |
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| 21:28.41 | TheWarden | jelly-home: ohhhh really okay, well fine. I just wanted to get nvidia-detect installed or some open source video driver working so I can use X Window again. Is maybe the reason I can't install nvidia-detect because of being in recovery mode? |
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| 21:35.10 | DammitJim | does anyone know if there is a fix for rdesktop not showing certain things in windows 7? |
| 21:35.34 | DammitJim | I was trying to install Visual Studio 2012 through rdesktop and I couldn't see the installer window |
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| 21:38.52 | joar | hey, I'm trying out kvm but I'm having some trouble setting up the network briding |
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| 21:38.57 | joar | bridging |
| 21:40.12 | joar | here's my `ip a` and `brctl show` https://gist.github.com/aa01e75c439c01b28ec8 |
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| 21:40.56 | zykotick9 | joar: it appears eth0 still has the IP, instead of br0 |
| 21:41.22 | joar | zykotick9: I'm just starting out with this, how would I make it right? |
| 21:41.25 | zykotick9 | joar: this is my interface file with bridge http://paste.debian.net/228350/ |
| 21:41.36 | TheWarden | so do I have to use nvidia video drivers in order to get Nvidia Geforce 610M to work? |
| 21:41.44 | zykotick9 | joar: notice eth0 is not longer configured |
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| 21:43.19 | joar | zykotick9: all right, took your config and modified it and put it in /etc/network/interfaces, now service networking restart? |
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| 21:43.43 | zykotick9 | joar: give it a shot. hope you backed up your origional file ;) |
| 21:43.52 | joar | zykotick9: I did, it was just two lines |
| 21:44.16 | joar | zykotick9: I'm using networkmanager, does that break the idea btw? |
| 21:44.35 | joar | I recall that it's either networkmanager or /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:44.43 | somiaj | it is |
| 21:44.44 | zykotick9 | joar: if you have n-m i have no idea! good luck. i believe using interfaces would disable it though... |
| 21:44.56 | somiaj | network manager will ignore any interface mentioned in the interfaces file |
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| 21:45.28 | joar | all rigth |
| 21:45.31 | joar | gdm crashed |
| 21:45.46 | joar | when running /etc/init.d/networking stop |
| 21:45.56 | joar | and obviously the networking wasn't stopped |
| 21:46.12 | zykotick9 | joar: BUT, perhaps n-m will continue to control eth0, perhaps causing issues? |
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| 21:46.25 | joar | it seems network manager will crash the desktop manager and ignore any changes to the /etc/network/interfaces file. |
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| 21:47.56 | joar | I don't know |
| 21:49.24 | joar | hm |
| 21:49.38 | joar | service network-manager stop |
| 21:49.44 | joar | service networking start |
| 21:49.52 | joar | br0 now has the IP from the DHCP server |
| 21:50.10 | joar | well, gateway, since it's statically configured |
| 21:50.22 | joar | gdm refuses to start |
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| 21:52.37 | zykotick9 | joar: i rather "doubt" n-m and bridging is gonna work... but maybe. good luck. |
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| 21:53.12 | blubberdiblub | joar, heed what zykotick9 says. put the eth* interfaces on manual in /etc/network/interfaces and network manager will leave them alone while bridging will still work |
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| 21:54.42 | jelly-home | TheWarden: well if the network isn't up it will be hard to install anything |
| 21:55.38 | joar | blubberdiblub: what's the line for eth0? I'm stuck in my console for now |
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| 21:56.06 | blubberdiblub | joar, iface eth0 inet manual |
| 21:56.32 | joar | thank you blubberdiblub |
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| 21:57.07 | blubberdiblub | joar, you'll probably have to restart network manager and after that ifdown and ifup your bridge |
| 21:58.39 | joar | I think I need a reboot |
| 21:58.43 | TheWarden | okay, I've learned that I'm using the Nouveau video driver, how can I find out what video cards that driver supports? |
| 21:58.44 | joar | gdm won't start |
| 21:58.53 | TheWarden | jelly-home: network is fine |
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| 21:59.35 | TheWarden | jelly-home: I can ping google.com and I can connect to other Linux systems via SSH fine on the LAN. |
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| 22:02.14 | TheWarden | sighs in frustration |
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| 22:05.36 | babilen | TheWarden: Ask in #nouveau -- I am not aware of a good resource (maybe they know one and you could tell me) -- alternatively install the nvidia driver following instructions along the lines of "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" -- You might need the driver from squeeze-backports though (don't forget to enable contrib and non-free! (deb line ends in "main contrib non-free")) |
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| 22:06.33 | babilen | TheWarden: You can check on ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ → VERSION → /README/README.txt which driver version supports which cards. |
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| 22:06.53 | TheWarden | babilen: well it did work but since we switched out the hardware the video is not working anymore. I would be happy to use the open source drivers if I could figure out how to make it work. |
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| 22:07.16 | babilen | TheWarden: And just as a side note: If this is for your personal box I would suggest to consider installing wheezy (next stable release) as it will most likely be released shortly |
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| 22:08.32 | babilen | TheWarden: The open source drivers should "Just work"™ if the version that is installed right now supports that chipset. (Assuming you never had the nvidia driver installed or if you had that you removed/purged it, rebooted (to remove the nouveau blacklist) and removed any nvidia specific configuration files) |
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| 22:08.39 | TheWarden | babilen: well this is a pre-configured system that worked previously until hardware was replaced and now it can't detect the video card I believe. This is being used in production use and therfore I'm not willing to start using Wheezy yet. |
| 22:08.57 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Is it a different video card? |
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| 22:09.50 | babilen | TheWarden: Essentially I would assume that you use an <empty xorg.conf> with maybe some customization in <xorg.conf.d> (/msg dpkg empty xorg.conf) -- that being said: AFAIK nouveau in squeeze is quite old and you want newer versions of that (but clarify that in #nouveau ) |
| 22:10.38 | TheWarden | babilen: all hardware has been replaced include the video card being different. The only thing that remains the same is that the configure of Debian was cloned on to the new hard drive and thought it would detect and be on its happy way. but I'm getting "No devices detected" and "Fatal server error: No screens found" in X.org log file. |
| 22:10.43 | babilen | TheWarden: Ok, fair enough. (yeah, don't upgrade production system mindlessly to wheezy) |
| 22:11.09 | TheWarden | yeah maybe I dunno this is using a Nvidia GeForce 610M video card. |
| 22:11.17 | babilen | TheWarden: That sounds as if the card is newer than the one that was installed. Do you know what it was/is? |
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| 22:11.42 | babilen | figures out the codename for that card (whyyyy do vendors always have to make things so hard??) |
| 22:12.02 | TheWarden | babilen: the previous video card was a Next-Generation NVIDIA® ION (GT218-ION) 512MB |
| 22:12.05 | jhutchins | TheWarden: 1) remove old nvidia config && xorg.conf && xorg.conf.d, allow system to redetect, re-run the process of installing appropriate nvidia drivers if desired. |
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| 22:12.41 | babilen | TheWarden: yeah, those are pretty new and IIRC you need /very/ very bleeding edge nouveau drivers for them, but please ask in #nouveau |
| 22:12.45 | TheWarden | jhutchins: I never installed Nvidia drivers before, as it was found to be not required. |
| 22:13.01 | TheWarden | babilen: okay thanks |
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| 22:13.04 | babilen | TheWarden: I still assume that you /do not use any/ xorg.conf |
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| 22:13.32 | TheWarden | babilen: well default with a fixed video resolution is all I didi. Not doing anything facny here. |
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| 22:13.52 | babilen | TheWarden: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix + http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames (not sure which nouvou version this is about) |
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| 22:14.42 | TheWarden | ahh not sure on version it says compiled for 1.7.7 and module version 0.0.15 |
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| 22:15.08 | babilen | TheWarden: Ask in #nouveau about support for NV40 cards, but I doubt that the version in squeeze is new enough. Check if the nvidia driver version in backports supports that card (on ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/295.59/README/README.txt -- I think it does) |
| 22:16.13 | babilen | TheWarden: Follow "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" for general installation instructions, but pull nvidia-kernel-dkms from backports/non-free (you might want to consider installing a new kernel too, but that shouldn't be necessary) |
| 22:16.36 | TheWarden | babilen: oh oh I found the video card in that readme.txt file. sweet. mmm now what. |
| 22:17.01 | TheWarden | babilen: argh I hope I don't have to do a new kernal too never done that before. |
| 22:17.09 | TheWarden | babilen: let alone doing this video driver stuff. |
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| 22:20.03 | TheWarden | babilen: can you lead me to how to achieve this within recovery mode? As it appears things are not all loaded as normal. |
| 22:20.23 | babilen | TheWarden: It is pretty easy. The nvidia-kernel-dkms package should compile against the kernel in squeeze so you have to isntall kernel headers from squeeze and /then/ nvidia-kernel-dkms from squeeze-backports. The configuration should be the same (cf. "/msg dpkg nvidia kernel dkms") |
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| 22:20.50 | babilen | TheWarden: I am leaving now, but this shouldn't be too hard |
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| 22:23.03 | nabblet | since i don't have the chance to test it: will rsync behave differently when rsyncing a sshfs mounted folder? |
| 22:23.36 | nabblet | maybe it will see it as 'local folder' - and i read that rsync behaves differently for local operation |
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| 22:24.22 | koollman | nabblet: it will work, but won't be very effective |
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| 22:25.32 | nabblet | koollman: hm :/ |
| 22:25.49 | joar | ok, up and running, thank you guys <3 |
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| 22:26.40 | nabblet | koollman: my problem is that i have to sync data over a very unstable network. it's not a backup, but merly a manuall selection of files. setting up the whole rsync/ssh hassle for every file is a bit annoing |
| 22:27.04 | nabblet | also since searching the remote folder for files to sync also requires a ssh login |
| 22:27.16 | nabblet | sshfs would have solved that for me i think |
| 22:27.24 | nabblet | koollman: what do you mean be not efficient? |
| 22:28.02 | koollman | nabblet: it would be more like doing a scp twice. not fast. (rsync will examine the file, and then copy it) |
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| 22:28.33 | nabblet | koollman: oh, that's a no-go |
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| 22:29.06 | nabblet | koollman: thank you |
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| 22:30.38 | tecneeq | i need someone downloading from my box at home. it's behind DSL and apache was using up all my upload bandwidth. so, to test mod_bw i need someone with mad wget skills ;) |
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| 22:30.46 | koollman | can you make a list of the files you need to sync ? maybe the --files-from option to rsync would help you |
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| 22:31.07 | bolt | dondelelcaro: you around? |
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| 22:35.41 | bolt | dondelelcaro: i'll leave you a privmsg. hope that's alright. |
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| 22:36.24 | nabblet | koollman: the files on the remote computer change from time to time |
| 22:37.07 | koollman | nabblet: how do you decide which one to take, then / |
| 22:37.08 | koollman | ? |
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| 22:37.34 | nabblet | koollman: i ssh to the computer, see what's there and the give that to rsync |
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| 22:37.54 | koollman | nabblet: and how do you decide which files you do not take ? |
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| 22:40.05 | nabblet | koollman: i know which files are meant for me and which not |
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| 22:40.24 | bolt | !otpw |
| 22:40.25 | dpkg | One-time passwords in Debian are provided by the libpam-otpw and otpw-bin packages. Make sure to read the included html file for an overview. For a quick guide on setting up one-time passwords for SSH, see http://blog.dhampir.no/content/one-time-passwords-in-debian-wheezy-with-libpam-otpw |
| 22:40.26 | nabblet | koollman: hm, i could sort them to folders and then sync the folder |
| 22:40.29 | bolt | er. |
| 22:40.36 | koollman | nabblet: that would be more efficient, yes |
| 22:40.41 | bolt | nabblet: i would suggest making a directory with your name on it |
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| 22:41.07 | nabblet | koollman: bolt now i feel a bit stupid :P |
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| 22:41.26 | nabblet | koollman: bolt thank you |
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| 22:48.26 | TheWarden | I'm trying to do /msg dpkg nvidia kernel dkms as I was instructed but it doesn't appear to be working. |
| 22:49.05 | abrotman | instructed where? |
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| 22:54.07 | TheWarden | babilen instructed me to do that /msg dpkg nvidia kernel dkms |
| 22:54.17 | abrotman | maybe /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
| 22:54.38 | jhutchins | kernel would be redundant |
| 22:54.44 | TheWarden | yeah I guess on how to update my nouveau driver... not sure I follow it but yeah. |
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| 22:55.17 | abrotman | TheWarden: so see what the bot tell you |
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| 22:57.48 | TheWarden | abrotman: the later doesn't work. Anyways thanks I have to run. |
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| 22:58.14 | abrotman | the latter what? |
| 22:58.21 | abrotman | !nvidia dkms |
| 22:58.21 | dpkg | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Run «update-initramfs -u» and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. See <nvidia legacy> for legacy drivers. |
| 22:58.24 | abrotman | works just fine .. |
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| 23:02.12 | dashs | Have 1st 64-bit machine, making some old code, produces .sho file (is that 64-bit object?) |
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| 23:14.00 | vkdir | i'm having trouble using snapshot.debian.org to install old tomcat6's. I'm using pinning & already installed 6.0.28-9+squeeze1, which is older than current stable. now I want to install the next version up (6.0.28-10). anyone done this before? |
| 23:16.14 | jordanm | vkdir, dpkg supports upgrading, what's the problem? |
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| 23:18.01 | vkdir | jordanm: i was just following the method on the snapshots.debian.org page, but when I run aptitude update and apt-cache policy, I get "Candidate: 6.0.28-9+squeeze1". so, my config is apparently not correct to update |
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| 23:18.32 | jordanm | vkdir, i would just download the .deb manually |
| 23:19.48 | vkdir | that means pulling in all the dependencies as well for tomcat6. not a ton, but I also have to iterate through all the versions on http://snapshot.debian.org/package/tomcat6/ to find out which version of tomcat6 breaks my code |
| 23:20.06 | vkdir | it would be nice if I code just change a pin version :/ |
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| 23:20.18 | vkdir | s/code/could/ |
| 23:20.21 | jordanm | vkdir, -9 to -10 is the same upstream version, you should already have the depends |
| 23:21.18 | Cyclohexane | Anyone have any ideas why a debian vps would do this: http://gyazo.com/ff3a0e7402785f27cae1f9b3aeae9b55 ? |
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| 23:22.06 | vkdir | jordanm: I'm not sure what you mean, but I'd still prefer to figure out why snapshot isn't working so I can let aptitude figure the rest out for me |
| 23:22.22 | jordanm | Cyclohexane, on what VPS software? |
| 23:22.57 | jordanm | vkdir, if you have -9 installed, then you should already have the depends for -10, unless -9 was a bad package |
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| 23:23.19 | jordanm | vkdir, it's the same version of tomcat, only debian changes would have been made |
| 23:23.21 | Cyclohexane | jordanm: openvz - I'm assuming the ip got routed to another vps.. (BUT on reboot from control panel it resets back to debian) |
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| 23:24.16 | frienz | Cyclohexane: netstat -tulpn | grep "port" |
| 23:24.17 | jordanm | Cyclohexane, those ports are probably open on the host node. openvz/virtuozzo can do some weird things with the way that it passes data through to the container |
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| 23:25.00 | Cyclohexane | frienz: I can't.. there is an actual windows box running under the IP I can remote desktop to it |
| 23:25.27 | Cyclohexane | jordanm: it's beyond me; it seems to do it 'every so often' |
| 23:25.40 | Cyclohexane | the IP is dedicated to me |
| 23:26.01 | jordanm | Cyclohexane, that doesn't mean that someone else's machine is configured to use the same IP, and fighting over it |
| 23:26.02 | vkdir | jordanm: ok, trying your way. installed it. "tomcat6 depends on tomcat6-common (>= 6.0.28-10)" dpkg installs and gives an error. all the dependencies are a version behind. |
| 23:26.11 | jordanm | Cyclohexane, *isn't |
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| 23:27.16 | Cyclohexane | jordanm: what does it mean then? |
| 23:27.43 | jordanm | Cyclohexane, contact your hosting provider |
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| 23:38.18 | PhoenixSTF | Hey guys, is it feasible to user debian etch on a production web server today? |
| 23:38.47 | themill | lots of things are feasible and also stupid |
| 23:39.28 | PhoenixSTF | well I am talking about a version of debian that is no longer supported |
| 23:39.40 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: not the best idea in the world |
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| 23:40.12 | zinx | PhoenixSTF: you can do it, but it will probably get rooted pretty quick. |
| 23:40.24 | zinx | PhoenixSTF: i have no idea why you would WANT to.. |
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| 23:41.16 | PhoenixSTF | zinx, I didn't, a ISP gave my company a VPS with debian 4 and plesk 9.3 |
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| 23:41.33 | zinx | PhoenixSTF: lol |
| 23:41.40 | zinx | PhoenixSTF: fire the ISP |
| 23:41.41 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: what |
| 23:42.23 | PhoenixSTF | pbxbrian, yes... this happen |
| 23:42.56 | themill | I'd say that tells you everything you need to know about them. |
| 23:42.58 | PhoenixSTF | worst is it has a custom kernel (I dont know why) |
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| 23:43.30 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: maybe its latest kernel |
| 23:43.36 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: lol |
| 23:43.44 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: kernel is least of your problems |
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| 23:44.14 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: did they offer you a choice of debian releases when you were setting up? Or you asked for debian and got this version |
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| 23:44.19 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: That's really bad that they're charging you for software that's no longer supported. |
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| 23:44.29 | PhoenixSTF | pbxbrian, 2.6.32-042stab049.6 |
| 23:45.05 | themill | that's a RHEL5 kernel from the host system -- your guest isn't running its own kernel |
| 23:45.06 | jordanm | PhoenixSTF, that's an openvz/virtuozzo kernel |
| 23:45.17 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins, thanks, that is exacly what I am going to tell my boss |
| 23:45.28 | PhoenixSTF | jordanm, yes viruozzo paralles |
| 23:45.54 | jordanm | standard junky glorified chroot |
| 23:45.58 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: Is this their fault because they don't offer upgrades, or yours because you didn't upgrade when you could? |
| 23:46.15 | pbxbrian | good question |
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| 23:46.53 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins, the vps was bought less then 6 months |
| 23:47.10 | PhoenixSTF | and I only had the opportunity to check the server today |
| 23:47.18 | PhoenixSTF | since it was my 1st day.... |
| 23:47.37 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: what does cat /etc/debian_version say ? |
| 23:47.39 | jhutchins | Well, that's a little bit on whoever bought it for not checking on whether the OS was current. |
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| 23:48.05 | PhoenixSTF | pbxbrian, 4.0 |
| 23:48.25 | jhutchins | RHEL4 went EOL last March, and some of us made good money rescuing companies who hadn't kept up. |
| 23:48.53 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: if its just a web server it should be very straightforward to migrate to squeeze |
| 23:49.27 | PhoenixSTF | pbxbrian, well they are using plesk 9.3, so I dont know if we are going to have issues |
| 23:49.27 | jordanm | jhutchins, only for the people that didn't purchase the extended support |
| 23:49.44 | jordanm | it's supported until 2015 |
| 23:49.53 | jhutchins | pbxbrian: The problem with those VMs is you never know what's going to happen if you upgrade, and given that the host kernel is what it shows he probably can't upgrade. Besides, he shouldn't stay with a company that's ripping him off like that. |
| 23:50.10 | PhoenixSTF | jordanm, you dont really have failover or migration with openvz or virtuozzo do you? |
| 23:50.21 | pbxbrian | jhutchins: I agree completely, I was going to suggest new squeeze VPS and move the web apps across |
| 23:50.31 | pbxbrian | jhutchins: not try an upgrade |
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| 23:51.28 | jordanm | PhoenixSTF, it's a very budget product.. it's not even a real virtual machine |
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| 23:51.59 | PhoenixSTF | so it's cheap, it's stupid, and no failover capability |
| 23:52.03 | PhoenixSTF | right? |
| 23:52.06 | jordanm | yes |
| 23:52.11 | PhoenixSTF | oh crap |
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| 23:52.29 | jordanm | and insecure due to being 2 stable releases behind |
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| 23:52.50 | pbxbrian | PhoenixSTF: if this provider is giving you etch as an OS, their hot failover server for this VPS host is probably under some engineers bed |
| 23:53.14 | PhoenixSTF | "hey boss you got a crappy server!!!" |
| 23:53.24 | PhoenixSTF | lol |
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| 23:53.51 | PhoenixSTF | ok thanks guys... thats the info I need to know to pass along to the guys and try and work out something |
| 23:54.35 | penguin_ | aeou |
| 23:54.38 | penguin_ | test |
| 23:54.40 | penguin_ | does anyone here use redshift? |
| 23:54.51 | pbxbrian | penguin_: you missed i |
| 23:54.56 | zinx | shouldn't that be aoeu |
| 23:55.09 | penguin_ | oh what |
| 23:55.15 | penguin_ | aoeui |
| 23:55.15 | PhoenixSTF | pbxbrian, jordanm jhutchins , thanks a lot guys ;) |
| 23:55.20 | penguin_ | aoeuidhtns |
| 23:55.23 | penguin_ | hows that |
| 23:55.38 | penguin_ | htns- |
| 23:55.41 | penguin_ | anyway |
| 23:55.49 | penguin_ | do you use computer at night |
| 23:56.14 | pbxbrian | hmm |
| 23:56.25 | zinx | i do, but not in environments where my eyes need to stay adjusted to the darkness |
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| 23:56.35 | zinx | (so, no, i do not use the afformentioned program) |
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| 23:56.49 | WITRchris | hey anybody good with dynamic dns playing nice with dhcpd? |
| 23:56.54 | penguin_ | do you use flouresent lights |
| 23:57.08 | koollman | I just remembered I should give redshift a try, thanks :) |
| 23:57.19 | pbxbrian | Looks interesting |
| 23:57.21 | penguin_ | wait --- run the following command |
| 23:57.32 | WITRchris | what's the option in dhcpd to pass up the client's hostname to dns via ddns? |
| 23:57.40 | WITRchris | or rather the client-hostname option |
| 23:58.02 | penguin_ | redshift -t 6500:4500 -g 0.73 the 4500 is the color temp and the -g is the gamma level which can go above 1.0 |
| 23:58.19 | penguin_ | -t sets the color temp |
| 23:58.45 | penguin_ | 3700 default is NOT 3700k -- it's way too red / orange |
| 23:59.01 | WITRchris | use-host-decl-name or something |
| 23:59.08 | zinx | penguin_: probably depends a lot on your monitor's calibration |
| 23:59.51 | penguin_ | yeah -- i have an LCD and it's more green i think -- but that's compared to my laptop - when i use f.lux on my laptop it looks really red in color |
