| 00:01.40 | *** join/#debian LZNPDE (sHiNoBi@red.shinobicorp.com) |
| 00:02.31 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 00:04.14 | *** join/#debian bassliner (~armin@krypton.darkbyte.org) |
| 00:04.19 | *** join/#debian neur0x (~neur0x@141.Red-83-42-118.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:04.20 | *** join/#debian neur0x (~neur0x@unaffiliated/neur0x) |
| 00:05.39 | *** part/#debian Rat409 (~Rat409@bb-205-209-95-37.gwi.net) |
| 00:06.07 | *** join/#debian Jacksonson (~jackson@cpe-98-30-26-83.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 00:06.21 | *** part/#debian Jacksonson (~jackson@cpe-98-30-26-83.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 00:07.12 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1209] by debhelper |
| 00:07.20 | *** join/#debian slonsiki (~slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 00:07.23 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-8-177.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 00:07.26 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~ZykoticK9@unaffiliated/zykotick9) |
| 00:07.26 | Costanza | hmm "Unable to locate package mate-desktop-enviroment" :| |
| 00:07.50 | Costanza | mate-core installed fine but it cant find mate-desktop-enviroment |
| 00:08.42 | *** join/#debian larseberhart (~larseberh@77.117.247.3.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 00:09.26 | engla | Costanza: I don't think mate is in debian |
| 00:09.31 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 00:09.35 | Costanza | i used the mate repo |
| 00:09.39 | Costanza | deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/debian wheezy main |
| 00:09.42 | Costanza | deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian wheezy main |
| 00:09.49 | somiaj | Costanza: I don't see an offical package by that name, it could be a virtual package |
| 00:10.03 | Costanza | http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download i followed the instructions here |
| 00:10.06 | somiaj | oh I wouldn't know what packages are in that repo |
| 00:10.21 | Costanza | and the last step is apt-get install mate-desktop-environment |
| 00:10.24 | somiaj | Costanza: does that repo have it's own support area? |
| 00:10.40 | noRulez | which dhcp server is better? |
| 00:10.42 | Costanza | i dont know.. i am googling to see if someone else had same problem |
| 00:10.48 | somiaj | Costanza: what does apt-cache search mate-desktop-enviorment return? |
| 00:11.24 | somiaj | Costanza: it said to only use one of the repos, but after you apt-get update, serach for that package name |
| 00:11.33 | Costanza | it does not return anything.. it just goes to a new line |
| 00:11.43 | *** join/#debian glebihan_ (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 00:11.52 | somiaj | Costanza: and your apt-get update ran correctly? |
| 00:12.06 | Costanza | yes.. i will remove the second repo then |
| 00:12.08 | somiaj | Costanza: apt-cache policy (do you see the mate repos there)? |
| 00:12.17 | *** join/#debian korhojoa (~korhojoa@gprs-prointernet-c289f4-168.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 00:12.18 | somiaj | Costanza: extra repos shouldnt matter, but yes I would remove one |
| 00:12.48 | somiaj | Costanza: it sounds like there is not a package by that name in the repo, apt-cache search mate and try to figure it out. Ask for support about why that package isn't there from the third party. (: |
| 00:13.07 | *** join/#debian InvalidHandle (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb8e-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 00:14.05 | Costanza | lol.. i am so stupid |
| 00:14.13 | Costanza | i typed enviroment.. it should be enviroment.. |
| 00:14.18 | Costanza | my english grammar is so bad |
| 00:14.27 | *** join/#debian Jaleks (~myself@77.47.97.180.dynamic.cablesurf.de) |
| 00:15.04 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.61.246) |
| 00:15.09 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.116.150) |
| 00:15.26 | Costanza | it should be environment* |
| 00:15.42 | *** join/#debian grishnav (ryan@c-9ea7e055.04-2-64736c12.cust.hadm.com) |
| 00:17.12 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1215] by debhelper |
| 00:18.37 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~brock@c-67-171-189-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 00:20.01 | Costanza | yay.. i have it up and running |
| 00:20.08 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~kot@lopsa/member/project2501a) |
| 00:20.15 | *** part/#debian grishnav (ryan@c-9ea7e055.04-2-64736c12.cust.hadm.com) |
| 00:20.28 | Costanza | i did apt-get install xorg lightdm too.. |
| 00:20.59 | *** join/#debian rachel (~rachel@198.147.23.58) |
| 00:21.25 | Costanza | and using the netinstall it does not install any browser and other software.. i can chose myself what to install.. great |
| 00:21.31 | itsrachelfish | hi #debian |
| 00:21.41 | itsrachelfish | How do I disable commands for users? |
| 00:21.44 | itsrachelfish | Like who or finger? |
| 00:21.46 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 00:22.06 | pbxbrian | Is it just me? Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC |
| 00:22.22 | PerfDave | Ooh, there was a leap second? |
| 00:22.43 | dvs | ...and the Java goes wild again! |
| 00:22.44 | pbxbrian | PerfDave: only on one box out of about 50 I look after |
| 00:22.47 | pbxbrian | PerfDave: strange |
| 00:22.58 | Costanza | now i will try to compile the kernel for efi stub.. that would be great :D |
| 00:23.20 | PerfDave | pbxbrian: One out of 50 is strange, but when they happen, they happen at year end |
| 00:23.20 | dima | hi itsrachelfish, you can change permissions on those commands |
| 00:23.30 | caf | itsrachelfish: you can remove world-execute permission on the relevant binaries - eg chmod 750 /usr/bin/who |
| 00:23.39 | dima | or, for a more superficial "disabling", you can remove them from their paths |
| 00:23.40 | pbxbrian | PerfDave: right. Was last night at 23:59:58 |
| 00:24.52 | Jaleks | no leap secodn should be added this years change - maybe your box has not been onlinbe since end of june 2012? ;-) |
| 00:24.57 | Posterdati | hi |
| 00:25.28 | caf | but note that neither `who' nor `finger' require special permission to run |
| 00:25.42 | Posterdati | please I need help with a toshiba satellite and wheezy: I'm using the OpenSource radeon driver (9600 M10) but it freezes at kdm after a while... Please help! |
| 00:25.49 | caf | who just needs read access to /var/run/utmp, so you could disable that better by locking down the permissions on that file instread |
| 00:25.56 | pbxbrian | Jaleks: its online for >600 days |
| 00:26.12 | *** join/#debian Tired (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 00:27.52 | caf | (same for local finger, actually - it sounds like chmod 660 /var/run/utmp would solve your problem) |
| 00:28.41 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-5f74f96e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:29.13 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-144-28.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 00:30.34 | *** join/#debian bassliner (~armin@krypton.darkbyte.org) |
| 00:30.39 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 00:31.13 | *** part/#debian wendelmineiro (~wendelmin@177.185.4.27) |
| 00:31.25 | {her|bert} | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.51 | wolfmitchell | Is there a package for a g++ version >=4.5 on debian squeeze? |
| 00:32.17 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.61.246) |
| 00:33.29 | b0ss_ | somiaj: I added: |
| 00:33.50 | somiaj | ,v g++ |
| 00:33.51 | judd | Package: g++ on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; sid: 4:4.7.2-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; experimental: 4:4.7.2-1exp1 |
| 00:34.24 | b0ss_ | auto wlan0 |
| 00:34.24 | b0ss_ | iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 00:34.24 | b0ss_ | wpa-conf "/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" |
| 00:34.24 | b0ss_ | wpa-essid to "/etc/network/interfaces" and then ran # wpa_passphrase [my_ssid] [my_pass] |
| 00:34.24 | *** kick/#debian [b0ss_!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 00:34.35 | *** join/#debian b0ss_ (b0ss_@186.222.103.190) |
| 00:35.01 | *** join/#debian tom__ (~tom@S0106602ad0848210.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 00:35.21 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.61.246) |
| 00:35.28 | b0ss_ | somiaj: I added these lines to my "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 00:35.34 | b0ss_ | https://gist.github.com/4431304 |
| 00:35.46 | somiaj | wolfmitchell: /msg dpkg ssbp (you can make your own backport, but by default there is no version 4.4 or greater in squeeze) |
| 00:36.03 | b0ss_ | then ran #wpa_passphrase [my_ssid] [my_pass] |
| 00:36.07 | b0ss_ | next step ? |
| 00:36.16 | somiaj | b0ss_: those don't look like they are what you want |
| 00:36.29 | b0ss_ | dhcp + wap |
| 00:36.45 | b0ss_ | I meant WPA |
| 00:36.46 | wolfmitchell | just saw |
| 00:37.10 | somiaj | bolt: actually remove the wpa-essid line |
| 00:37.11 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1208] by debhelper |
| 00:37.20 | wolfmitchell | (heh, firefox was deciding not to minimize and it hid my start menu for some reason (I'm on windows and use debian via ssh :P) |
| 00:37.22 | dvs | b0ss_: If you have a GUI you'd be much better off configuring it in there. |
| 00:37.23 | wolfmitchell | ) |
| 00:37.25 | somiaj | b0ss_: ^^ and then did you configure your wpa_supplicant.conf correctly (and have you installe wpasupplicant) |
| 00:38.10 | wolfmitchell | I have the experimental repos added, but how to I make apt-get install from there and not the squeeze repos? |
| 00:40.44 | wolfmitchell | .-. did my ZNC freeze |
| 00:40.51 | *** join/#debian drumr (~drumr@ip98-167-200-244.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:40.52 | un214 | no |
| 00:41.31 | *** join/#debian Dreadtower (~robin@host86-176-193-165.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) |
| 00:41.54 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host50-154-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:42.03 | *** join/#debian przemoc (~przemoc@unaffiliated/przemoc) |
| 00:42.04 | b0ss_ | somiaj: isn't that line related to WPA ? |
| 00:42.04 | somiaj | wolfmitchell: do not mix experiemental binaries with squeeze |
| 00:42.05 | wolfmitchell | meh |
| 00:42.13 | b0ss_ | I mean: isn't it necessary ? |
| 00:42.16 | somiaj | wolfmitchell: make a backport, (/msg dpkg ssbp) |
| 00:42.24 | Jaleks | wolfmitchell: have a look at apt pinning - but as judd bot said there is still no >=4.5? |
| 00:43.22 | wolfmitchell | b0ss_, I'm trying to compile the Eir bot (one of Freenode's utility bots) and it needs g++ 4.5 or better |
| 00:43.23 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 00:43.54 | *** join/#debian drumr (~drumr@ip98-167-200-244.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:44.47 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@pD9E51855.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:45.00 | b0ss_ | I'm a newbie in Linux... So almost everything you tell me is unusual |
| 00:45.06 | *** join/#debian damo22 (~damien@210.4.229.110) |
| 00:45.10 | b0ss_ | although I'm striving to follow the steps |
| 00:45.18 | b0ss_ | including those I've found on the internet |
| 00:45.42 | b0ss_ | so please, a little help on the next step after wpa_passphrase |
| 00:45.58 | damo22 | does anyone know of a linux backup application that uses something simple like rsync with a cronjob, but maintains a list of usb sticks ? |
| 00:46.00 | dvs | b0ss_: If you're a newbie, use the GUI to configure your wireless connection |
| 00:46.03 | *** join/#debian romain_ (~quassel@2a02-8420-649c-1400-d5fe-e59b-558e-2f40.rev.sfr.net) |
| 00:46.33 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-24-63-48-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:47.03 | damo22 | for example, if i insert a new usb stick into my pc and i want it to be part of my backup solution, i would want to add this usb stick to a list so that when it is inserted, it is mounted at the correct location |
| 00:47.41 | damo22 | regardless of its /dev node |
| 00:48.25 | b0ss_ | dvs: which app specifically ? |
| 00:48.25 | Jaleks | damo22: to choose a mount point for your single device, have a look at udev rules |
| 00:48.51 | dvs | b0ss_: It depends on your GUI |
| 00:48.54 | somiaj | damo22: your filesystem contains a UUID, you can set a default mount point based on the uuid in /etc/fstab |
| 00:49.16 | somiaj | damo22: you can create a udev rule to automate this, or if you already have an automounter, configure it to mount based on the uuid |
| 00:49.43 | b0ss_ | Gnome |
| 00:49.45 | somiaj | damo22: but you could just add a line into /etc/fstab, and after you plug in the device type mount /path/to/backup -- and it will mount it there...add that to your backup script |
| 00:50.02 | somiaj | b0ss_: network-manager, it is probabaly already installed if you have gnome |
| 00:50.30 | somiaj | b0ss_: on top of that, you may have to remove those wlan0 lines from /etc/network/interfaces and restart network-manager to have it detect it |
| 00:50.35 | damo22 | somiaj: that is a great idea, i guess i will need to write a script to automate adding fstab rules |
| 00:50.49 | dvs | b0ss_: gnome-network-manager |
| 00:50.51 | damo22 | based on uuid |
| 00:51.09 | damo22 | because i want a user to manage their own backups |
| 00:52.12 | damo22 | how does one add/remove single lines from a text file? |
| 00:52.25 | *** join/#debian bassliner (~armin@krypton.darkbyte.org) |
| 00:52.27 | damo22 | eg, automatic search and replace |
| 00:52.40 | *** join/#debian Kaede_ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 00:52.57 | b0ss_ | dvs: No. I got gnome-network-properties |
| 00:53.28 | dvs | b0ss_: network-manager-gnome, sorry |
| 00:54.15 | b0ss_ | no, I don't have it either |
| 00:54.28 | dvs | b0ss_: ??? |
| 00:54.57 | dvs | b0ss_: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 00:55.44 | Jaleks | damo22: ŝound like you look for echo/sed, but user based manipulating of fstab does not sound like a good idea for me |
| 00:56.19 | *** join/#debian Kaede_ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 00:56.59 | damo22 | Jaleks: it should be safe if my script is well written |
| 00:57.07 | b0ss_ | dvs: https://gist.github.com/4431366 |
| 00:57.36 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@host-89-241-104-23.as13285.net) |
| 00:58.03 | *** join/#debian VoidWhisperer (47e0a677@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.224.166.119) |
| 00:58.25 | VoidWhisperer | Hey, I was wondering if someone could help me set up and configure php for debian :L |
| 00:58.27 | damo22 | Jaleks: for example, i could put a marker in the file with a comment at the end such as : #### BACKUP STARTS HERE (do not remove) |
| 00:58.29 | damo22 | #### BACKUP ENDS HERE (do not remove) |
| 00:58.35 | dvs | b0ss_: Ah, no wonder |
| 00:59.07 | dvs | !sources.list |
| 00:59.07 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
| 00:59.31 | dvs | b0ss_: All you need are the first two quoted things |
| 00:59.36 | dvs | ^^^ |
| 00:59.38 | VoidWhisperer | If anyone can help with installing/configuring php it would be greatly appreciated |
| 00:59.41 | VoidWhisperer | :L |
| 01:00.04 | damo22 | Jaleks: and write my script in such a way that it will not overwrite anything unless it is between those two lines |
| 01:00.30 | Jaleks | damo22: sry that I doubt to get a good written script when not even knowing of basic text file manipulation. (and there will be no way to convinve of anything other) |
| 01:02.00 | damo22 | i know regexp, i just dont use sed directly that often |
| 01:03.11 | *** join/#debian Macaroni (~macaroo@165.84-48-79.nextgentel.com) |
| 01:03.58 | trist4n | use perl |
| 01:05.19 | Jaleks | damo22: i for myself would probably check for usb sticks in the backup script, not doing a modification of fstab for every unknown (?) usb stick |
| 01:05.39 | somiaj | damo22: there are automounter tools that already deal with stuff like this. |
| 01:06.38 | b0ss_ | dvs: you're asking to run aptitude but I don't have an ethernet connection at least. |
| 01:06.51 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 01:07.03 | dvs | ... |
| 01:07.08 | dvs | doh |
| 01:07.24 | somiaj | dvs: I got him to install the firmware and his wireless device is correctly loaded, he just needs to configure it |
| 01:07.38 | somiaj | (might need to install wireless-tools and wpasupplicant too) |
| 01:07.58 | dvs | somiaj: ah, and that's on the first CD? |
| 01:08.21 | somiaj | I'm unsure how he installed or what he installed from |
| 01:08.30 | somiaj | I had him manually download the firmware |
| 01:08.34 | dvs | b0ss_: Can you plug your computer into an ethernet connection? |
| 01:08.41 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 01:08.45 | *** join/#debian aah (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/user54321) |
| 01:09.08 | *** join/#debian bassliner (~armin@krypton.darkbyte.org) |
| 01:09.17 | b0ss_ | dvs: unfortunatelly I can't |
| 01:09.30 | dvs | ok, now I see |
| 01:09.58 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 01:10.06 | dvs | b0ss_: Have you installed wireless-tools and wapsupplicant? |
| 01:10.20 | *** join/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@63-145-229-42.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 01:10.21 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: aptitiude install apache2 php5 |
| 01:10.21 | b0ss_ | how do I check both them ? |
| 01:10.35 | VoidWhisperer | jaleks: it appears to already be here |
| 01:10.44 | VoidWhisperer | trying to figure out where the module is installed so i can set up apache to use it |
| 01:10.46 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-4d019ddd.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 01:10.49 | *** join/#debian Ticho (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 01:10.50 | dvs | b0ss_: dpkg -l wireless-tools |
| 01:11.04 | VoidWhisperer | because there is a php5 folder in /etc/ |
| 01:11.05 | VoidWhisperer | xD |
| 01:11.09 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: then you should have php already available in apache |
| 01:11.26 | VoidWhisperer | apparently not configured correctly |
| 01:11.31 | VoidWhisperer | since it gives internal server errors |
| 01:11.37 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~kot@lopsa/member/project2501a) |
| 01:11.49 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: try to put "<?PHP phpinfo();" in the file /var/www/index.php and have a look at http://localhost |
| 01:12.19 | VoidWhisperer | I'm running this off a vps |
| 01:12.22 | VoidWhisperer | so i'd go to the ip instead |
| 01:12.23 | VoidWhisperer | :L |
| 01:12.26 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: and maybe move over to ##php |
| 01:12.43 | VoidWhisperer | #php Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited |
| 01:13.02 | *** join/#debian freeayu (~freeayu2@123.116.55.205) |
| 01:13.06 | Costanza | i am compiling kernel 3.7.1, the efi stub flag was already set in the config file |
| 01:13.11 | abrotman | ##php |
| 01:13.17 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: ##php |
| 01:13.29 | Costanza | now i have to find out how to boot this new kernel without the need of grub :D |
| 01:13.52 | Towzzer | can't_stand_ya |
| 01:14.23 | b0ss_ | dvs: https://gist.github.com/4431464 |
| 01:14.26 | b0ss_ | next one |
| 01:14.33 | bagulhex | 4=´FCCDWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW5VBGGISA |
| 01:14.50 | dvs | b0ss_: dpkg -l wpasupplicant |
| 01:15.04 | Costanza | can't stand who??? :D |
| 01:15.54 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 01:17.51 | *** join/#debian tyrmored (~tom@conan.sanctum.geek.nz) |
| 01:18.05 | b0ss_ | it's ok as well |
| 01:19.30 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: so does your phpinfo(); give something? else have a look at /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 01:19.50 | VoidWhisperer | no, been busy argueing on skype with someone |
| 01:20.59 | dvs | b0ss_: Add these lines to your /etc/network/interfaces (without the quotes): "iface wlan0 inet dhcp", "wpa-ssid <wireless_network_name>" and "wpa-psk <password>" |
| 01:22.14 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 01:23.48 | *** join/#debian thefunc5 (~thefunc@66.18.99.180) |
| 01:24.13 | *** join/#debian exequielnichele (~quassel@190.114.174.119) |
| 01:26.48 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-590e7fe8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 01:26.54 | *** join/#debian exequielnichele_ (~quassel@190.114.174.119) |
| 01:28.25 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 01:28.57 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net) |
| 01:30.14 | *** join/#debian Costanza (~Costanza@unaffiliated/costanza) |
| 01:30.31 | *** join/#debian soooga (~soooga@175.155.23.60) |
| 01:30.38 | VoidWhisperer | that's odd.. |
| 01:30.43 | VoidWhisperer | the php page was having an error |
| 01:30.46 | *** part/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@63-145-229-42.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 01:30.48 | VoidWhisperer | but instead of displaying it on the page |
| 01:30.50 | VoidWhisperer | instant 500 error |
| 01:31.00 | *** join/#debian alcaprawn (~root@gateway/tor-sasl/alcaprawn) |
| 01:31.56 | b0ss_ | done |
| 01:31.56 | abrotman | sonuds like a coding problem, more a question for ##php |
| 01:31.57 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host63-157-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 01:32.02 | b0ss_ | dvs: done. |
| 01:32.11 | *** join/#debian germanxn (~chatzilla@r190-134-27-6.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 01:32.35 | dvs | b0ss_: So "ifup wlan0" should turn on the wireless |
| 01:33.54 | *** join/#debian CrypticSquared (~cryptics_@unaffiliated/crypticsquared) |
| 01:34.21 | CrypticSquared | might seem like a silly question but how do i find out the reasoning behind choosing postgres instead of mysql? |
| 01:35.44 | dvs | CrypticSquared: abrotman ;-P |
| 01:36.04 | damo22 | CrypticSquared: i am also after this info |
| 01:36.37 | b0ss_ | dvs: I tried this and I got this message: /etc/network/interfaces:13 duplicate interface |
| 01:36.43 | *** join/#debian exequielnichele (~quassel@190.114.174.119) |
| 01:37.06 | kesroesweyth | CrypticSquared: Insanity? |
| 01:37.06 | *** join/#debian defile (~robert@ip70-160-154-234.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 01:37.27 | dvs | b0ss_: Did you erase the other lines with wlan0 in it from the interfaces file? |
| 01:37.52 | somiaj | CrypticSquared: debian allows you to chose the one you want....it is mostly a matter of taste though there are some differences. Historically there were more differences |
| 01:38.14 | *** join/#debian philips_ (~philips@2001:4801:7817:72:d4d9:211d:ff10:2b63) |
| 01:38.23 | CrypticSquared | so basically no one knows? |
| 01:38.28 | *** join/#debian tyrmored (~tom@conan.sanctum.geek.nz) |
| 01:38.28 | abrotman | CrypticSquared: choosing when? |
| 01:38.43 | abrotman | personally, i'd never choose mysql when pgsql is an option |
| 01:39.00 | kesroesweyth | abrotman: Why is that? |
| 01:39.12 | abrotman | kesroesweyth: mysql is not a good database? |
| 01:39.14 | *** join/#debian junaidnaseer1 (~junaid@f052139000.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 01:39.21 | CrypticSquared | abrotman: if you the default sets at the end of the install (ie database) it choose postgres. just wondering what the thinking behind it was |
| 01:39.22 | abrotman | i also learned pgsql first |
| 01:39.27 | CrypticSquared | choose* |
| 01:39.28 | kesroesweyth | abrotman: Can you be a little more specific? |
| 01:39.36 | abrotman | CrypticSquared: probably the technical problems that are related to mysql |
| 01:39.53 | abrotman | kesroesweyth: CrypticSquared if you want to know about those technical problems, there are a few dozen websites in the internets |
| 01:40.06 | somiaj | CrypticSquared: your question is vagge. On debian systems you can choose either. If you are talking about tasksel it was the choice of the team who created those defaults. It could be just personal choice |
| 01:40.08 | CrypticSquared | yeah thanks. i'll start googling |
| 01:40.15 | damo22 | does pgsql have replication? is it easier to configure than mysql? |
| 01:40.29 | abrotman | damo22: IMO, it is far easier to configure than mysql |
| 01:40.34 | abrotman | and yes, it has replication |
| 01:40.47 | damo22 | cool |
| 01:41.07 | abrotman | i don't think replicatoin is built-in, but it's out there |
| 01:41.09 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@223.207.173.151) |
| 01:41.14 | *** join/#debian clopez (~clopez@3.236.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 01:41.17 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: did the apache server log show anything? |
| 01:41.20 | abrotman | oh, it does have it now |
| 01:41.45 | b0ss_ | now I erased them |
| 01:41.51 | damo22 | i think i will stick with mysql i dont know any pgsql at all |
| 01:41.53 | b0ss_ | and I kept only the first two lines |
| 01:42.06 | abrotman | damo22: I'm glad i know both, but i prefer pgsql |
| 01:42.09 | b0ss_ | dvs: now I erased them and I kept only the first two lines |
| 01:42.21 | dvs | b0ss_: the "lo" lines? |
| 01:42.23 | damo22 | interesting |
| 01:42.31 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@pool-72-65-96-228.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 01:42.46 | b0ss_ | yes |
| 01:43.07 | dvs | b0ss_: Now, "ifup wlan0" should work. |
| 01:43.27 | Jaleks | CrypticSquared: do you know an mySql? meaning specific features of that system you will not find everywhere else? don't forget its now oracle... |
| 01:43.39 | *** join/#debian cesurasean (~sbrady@75-137-245-71.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com) |
| 01:43.45 | damo22 | i usually respect opinions of those with more experience |
| 01:43.49 | VoidWhisperer | jaleks: that's how i fonud the php error |
| 01:43.50 | abrotman | damo22: if you're using simple stuff, either is realistically fine .. if your datasets are a few million rows, you probably should look at using something other than mysql IMO |
| 01:43.51 | VoidWhisperer | that was causing it |
| 01:43.54 | Jaleks | CrypticSquared: $SEARCH_ENGINE "postgresql versus mysql" might give you an idea... |
| 01:44.01 | cesurasean | hey guys, fresh install of mysql on debian squeeze, and im getting this error; Warning: mysqli::mysqli() [mysqli.mysqli]: (HY000/2002): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 01:44.01 | CrypticSquared | thanks |
| 01:44.21 | cesurasean | the socket is there ( i checked ), mysql is running, and i can connect with mysql -u root -p |
| 01:44.32 | cesurasean | is this related to apache2 being chrooted, or jailed? |
| 01:44.44 | abrotman | cesurasean: did you chroot apache? |
| 01:44.59 | damo22 | abrotman: is pgsql better for handling >1M rows than mysql? |
| 01:45.17 | Jaleks | VoidWhisperer: if you do not have anything other running on apache atm i'd recommen a reinstallation after pruging apache2 and php5 - such errors are difficult to pinpoint w/o having to check several options |
| 01:45.19 | abrotman | damo22: you'd have to test, but i'd lean toward yes |
| 01:45.28 | damo22 | ok |
| 01:45.31 | *** join/#debian gartenstuhl (~gs@85.214.232.44) |
| 01:45.41 | *** join/#debian alcaprawn (~root@gateway/tor-sasl/alcaprawn) |
| 01:45.51 | abrotman | damo22: if you have >1mil rows, of just two columns, probably won't matter much |
| 01:46.01 | cesurasean | sudo mysql --host=localhost -u root -p also seems to work. |
| 01:46.09 | cesurasean | abrotman, yes apache2 is chrooted. |
| 01:46.49 | abrotman | cesurasean: so how do you think apache can access that directory? |
| 01:47.04 | b0ss_ | dvs: https://gist.github.com/4431521 |
| 01:47.29 | abrotman | damo22: and the SQL against your data would also be important .. like i said, you'd have to test |
| 01:47.44 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 01:47.52 | damo22 | abrotman: just curious but thanks |
| 01:48.38 | *** join/#debian hashem (~hashem@ool-457fb7cd.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:49.28 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-124-178-142-133.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 01:49.31 | dvs | b0ss_: Does "iwlist wlan0 scan" list anything? |
| 01:50.40 | cesurasean | abrotman, thank you. |
| 01:50.48 | b0ss_ | dvs: a bunch of thins. 4 cells with address in hexa. |
| 01:51.38 | *** join/#debian rcu (~rcu@79.112.179.136) |
| 01:51.43 | *** part/#debian cesurasean (~sbrady@75-137-245-71.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com) |
| 01:51.50 | b0ss_ | dvs: yeah, Cell 02 is "1Fire in the Sky" |
| 01:52.46 | dvs | b0ss_: Well, if your network accepts DHCP requests, then it doesn't like your SSID or password in the interfaces file. |
| 01:53.24 | b0ss_ | sorry ? |
| 01:53.55 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.213.134) |
| 01:54.02 | dvs | b0ss_: Does your wireless network accept DHCP requests? |
| 01:54.52 | b0ss_ | sorry, how to check that out ? |
| 01:55.02 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 01:55.42 | dvs | b0ss_: Dunno. It depends on your wireless hub. |
| 01:56.24 | *** join/#debian brong (~brong@220-245-36-226.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 01:57.13 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1202] by debhelper |
| 01:58.38 | *** join/#debian orfix (~mounir@41.143.176.152) |
| 01:58.47 | *** join/#debian bagulhex (~ohqwdpm@187.59.86.34) |
| 01:59.14 | b0ss_ | oh yes |
| 01:59.17 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:59.22 | b0ss_ | you refering to my router, I guess |
| 01:59.31 | *** join/#debian Kaede__ (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 01:59.31 | dvs | yes |
| 01:59.32 | b0ss_ | It's a Cisco WRT160N |
| 01:59.39 | b0ss_ | and I connect my desktop to it |
| 02:00.19 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 02:00.51 | *** join/#debian progme (~developer@c-68-52-206-95.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 02:00.54 | b0ss_ | so the answer to your question is yes. now, next step ? |
| 02:01.10 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@ibmaus65.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 02:02.06 | dvs | b0ss_: There is no next step. It should be working now |
| 02:02.32 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 02:03.17 | dvs | b0ss_: You might try adding "auto wlan0" before the "iface wlan0..." line and reboot. |
| 02:03.25 | *** join/#debian seeker61 (~william@ip68-102-52-129.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 02:03.44 | seeker61 | looking for drivers for a anatel wirless card for debian squeeze |
| 02:04.01 | dvs | PCI ID> |
| 02:04.03 | dvs | ? |
| 02:04.20 | *** join/#debian henry_IT (7a34d11b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.52.209.27) |
| 02:05.31 | *** join/#debian RussellB28 (russell@krypton.rbradford.me) |
| 02:06.33 | b0ss_ | ops |
| 02:06.40 | seeker61 | dvs: what number do you want off of the card |
| 02:06.46 | henry_IT | i have problem in my built in lan card cant connect to the internet |
| 02:06.58 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@94.179.204.230.pool.3g.utel.ua) |
| 02:07.12 | dvs | seeker61: The number that looks like ####:#### |
| 02:07.41 | henry_IT | i have problem in my built in lan card cant connect to the internet |
| 02:07.43 | b0ss_ | let me try to reboot first |
| 02:07.47 | b0ss_ | then I add that line. |
| 02:08.12 | dvs | b0ss_: Wrong order |
| 02:08.58 | seeker61 | dvs: that would be the HP Pin 5188-3742 |
| 02:09.05 | abrotman | henry_IT: lspci -nn .. what device is it |
| 02:09.06 | abrotman | ?? |
| 02:09.09 | dvs | Pin? |
| 02:10.35 | dvs | ,pciid 5188:3742 |
| 02:10.36 | judd | [5188:3742] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=5188:3742 |
| 02:11.02 | dvs | not good |
| 02:12.00 | *** join/#debian newloonyyear (~xmasloony@p508897A5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:12.09 | abrotman | run update-pciids |
| 02:12.47 | abrotman | dvs: and that's the PN, not the pciid |
| 02:13.09 | seeker61 | ok guys thanks |
| 02:13.26 | dvs | dulls all the PINs |
| 02:13.30 | henry_IT | rtl8111/8168 |
| 02:13.52 | *** join/#debian monsterloony (~xmasloony@p508897A5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:14.01 | abrotman | henry_IT: realtek-firmware package installed? |
| 02:15.18 | henry_IT | not |
| 02:15.23 | henry_IT | where i can get ir |
| 02:15.33 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 02:15.55 | b0ss_ | dvs: add that line, run ifup again and then reboot ? |
| 02:16.16 | dvs | b0ss_: Just add that line and reboot |
| 02:17.17 | *** join/#debian anomalies (~blah@ip-237.78.8.103.visikom-network.com) |
| 02:19.45 | b0ss_ | ok, just reboot it |
| 02:19.57 | b0ss_ | should i run ifup again ? |
| 02:20.03 | dvs | NO |
| 02:20.35 | abrotman | dpkg: tell henry_IT about realtek firmware |
| 02:20.37 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 02:20.52 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~ard1t@unaffiliated/ard1t) |
| 02:20.57 | b0ss_ | dvs: the bluetooth light is blinking now. |
| 02:21.39 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host224-157-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 02:22.30 | *** join/#debian CGC002 (~collin@c-98-203-213-194.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:24.03 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@176.44.8.151) |
| 02:24.04 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@unaffiliated/linkedinyou) |
| 02:24.11 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 02:24.25 | *** part/#debian PigDude (~tallen@unaffiliated/pigdude) |
| 02:25.12 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 02:25.16 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 02:25.37 | b0ss_ | I still don't have connectivity.. :( |
| 02:28.08 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 02:28.50 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 02:29.59 | *** join/#debian dominusceo (~ricardo.c@189.143.169.172) |
| 02:30.55 | *** part/#debian damo22 (~damien@210.4.229.110) |
| 02:32.11 | *** join/#debian Sidze (~Sidze@static.131.71.63.178.clients.your-server.de) |
| 02:32.39 | *** join/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@63-145-229-42.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 02:35.21 | henry_IT | where i can download the firmware |
| 02:35.37 | abrotman | packages.debian.org |
| 02:38.29 | *** join/#debian e-anima2 (~eanima@p4FF8ACBE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:38.35 | *** join/#debian hagbard_celine (~hagbard_c@mail.developer-zone.org) |
| 02:42.30 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@222-151-189-187.jp.fiberbit.net) |
| 02:45.12 | *** join/#debian hagbard_celine (~hagbard_c@mail.developer-zone.org) |
| 02:45.15 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@kiruna.mac.info.pl) |
| 02:46.20 | *** join/#debian cool_code (~coolcode@gateway/tor-sasl/coolcode/x-71588274) |
| 02:46.46 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 02:47.06 | *** part/#debian mrtux (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) |
| 02:47.10 | *** join/#debian [mrtux] (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) |
| 02:47.20 | *** part/#debian [mrtux] (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) |
| 02:47.40 | *** join/#debian mrtux (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) |
| 02:48.22 | *** join/#debian negativezero (~negativez@dab-bas2-h-1-8.dab.02.net) |
| 02:49.45 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.94.15) |
| 02:51.35 | *** join/#debian haylo_ (~little@ppp-70-225-168-26.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 02:52.13 | *** join/#debian philips_ (~philips@2001:4801:7817:72:d4d9:211d:ff10:2b63) |
| 02:53.36 | negativezero | Ergh, I am at a bit of a loss. After using s2disk, my OS (wheezy) has been acting funky in a way that makes me wonder where to even start trying to pin it down. |
| 02:53.49 | *** join/#debian echo083 (~adam@gateway/tor-sasl/echo083) |
| 02:53.54 | echo083 | hello |
| 02:53.57 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.182.4.176) |
| 02:53.58 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 02:54.30 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 02:55.04 | negativezero | The most conspicuous symptom is that wifi connections start getting bursty and eventually freeze completely when used (alongside with dmesg records like [ 377.284917] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Queue 2 stuck for 10000 ms.) |
| 02:55.13 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~noahfx@186.151.82.223) |
| 02:55.43 | echo083 | to support more than 4Gb of ram with 32-bit i must use pae is it correct ? |
| 02:55.54 | dvs | yup |
| 02:55.56 | negativezero | (where "when used" means it seems to correlate with load, i.e. the connection won't freeze with time if not used or only used very lightly) |
| 02:55.56 | negativezero | but other symptoms include the hostname randomly resetting to "dhcppc74" without /etc/hostname.conf changes |
| 02:55.56 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5B21D626.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:56.40 | echo083 | dvs, you answered me ? |
| 02:57.01 | henry_IT | how to always root log in in debian 6.06 |
| 02:57.06 | negativezero | and the same kind of "burstiness" starting to affect other aspects of the system |
| 02:57.11 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 02:57.55 | negativezero | Do you have any ideas how to deal with it other than "pour some holy water and garlic over it, reinstall and hope it doesn't reoccur"? |
| 02:58.21 | dvs | echo083: yup |
| 02:58.22 | abrotman | echo083: yes, that's correct |
| 02:58.27 | abrotman | henry_IT: always what? |
| 02:58.58 | echo083 | abrotman, ok ! and with this kernel a process could use more than 4Gb or memory too ? |
| 02:59.06 | abrotman | echo083: no |
| 02:59.28 | echo083 | abrotman, ok the memory usage for a single process will be still limited to 4Gb ? |
| 02:59.34 | abrotman | thought it was 2Gb .. |
| 02:59.53 | echo083 | abrotman, i've read it :( |
| 03:00.00 | echo083 | abrotman, but never tested it |
| 03:00.05 | abrotman | okay |
| 03:00.31 | echo083 | abrotman, with a 64-bit architecture what is the memory limit for a single process ? |
| 03:00.44 | koollman | echo083: 'a lot' |
| 03:01.17 | dvs | petabytes? |
| 03:01.28 | koollman | and for info, on 32bit, it's 3GB per process, unless you have a really unusual kernel |
| 03:01.49 | koollman | 1GB of the 4GB of addressable memory is mapped for the kernel |
| 03:01.53 | echo083 | koollman, ahh ok :) thanks for the precision |
| 03:02.00 | abrotman | koollman: he means per process not as a whole |
| 03:02.18 | koollman | yes. per process |
| 03:02.35 | koollman | it's mapped in each memory 'view', for each process |
| 03:02.51 | echo083 | abrotman, is there a simple solution to allow a 32-bit architecture to give more than 3Gb (whatever the limit is) to a process ? |
| 03:03.09 | abrotman | not that i know of .. |
| 03:03.11 | koollman | echo083: no |
| 03:03.34 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 03:03.42 | echo083 | abrotman, koollman, ok ok :) thanks for your answers |
| 03:03.59 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 03:04.04 | koollman | now, you get a 64bit linux ... and bam. I found the values : 64TB of memory supported. and a virtual space of 128TB |
| 03:04.08 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 03:04.14 | koollman | that is 'a lot', really :) |
| 03:05.25 | dvs | koollman: But America's debt will beat it! :-P |
| 03:05.44 | koollman | yeah, of course. if you need *that* kind of numbers ... ;) |
| 03:07.17 | *** join/#debian jagginess (~jb@modemcable032.45-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:07.18 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 03:09.10 | *** join/#debian thefunc5 (~thefunc@66.18.99.180) |
| 03:09.13 | *** join/#debian brong (~brong@220-245-36-226.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:11.35 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host78-154-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:13.47 | rue_house | is there a repository for projects that aren't accepted into mainstream debian archives because of stupid formalities but have made debs of their software(s) anyhow? |
| 03:13.59 | *** join/#debian boozer (~dave@c-24-126-85-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 03:14.07 | jagginess | rue_house, none |
| 03:14.14 | rue_house | thats too bad |
| 03:14.21 | jagginess | rue_house, nothing is stupid |
| 03:14.35 | jagginess | rue_house, license is license.. it's the law |
| 03:14.43 | *** join/#debian dravonn (~chatzilla@bb121-6-143-9.singnet.com.sg) |
| 03:14.58 | rue_house | yes, having your software locked out cause it uses libtool or an version of gtk, or because a developer dosn't ahve the resources to break a simple program down into a million libraries |
| 03:15.00 | yeats | rue_house: packaging standards too |
| 03:15.08 | dravonn | any reason why aircrack-ng is not in wheezy? |
| 03:15.22 | abrotman | rue_house: there's a list of unofficial repos in the wiki |
| 03:15.27 | rue_house | beacuse of stupid formalities? |
| 03:15.31 | rue_house | cool |
| 03:15.45 | yeats | rue_house: define "stupid formalities" |
| 03:15.53 | rue_house | yes, having your software locked out cause it uses libtool or an version of gtk, or because a developer dosn't ahve the resources to break a simple program down into a million libraries |
| 03:15.53 | jagginess | rue_house, it's the new year, help grandma with the new year cake |
| 03:16.06 | *** join/#debian negativezero (~negativez@host-92-20-233-231.as13285.net) |
| 03:16.09 | abrotman | jagginess: try not to be a jerk |
| 03:16.12 | rue_house | no, I am trying to rewrite camserv |
| 03:16.35 | dravonn | any alternate source for installing aircrack-ng in wheezy? |
| 03:16.36 | rue_house | but I found a program called mjpg-streamer, which has a deb, but is not part of debain |
| 03:16.43 | abrotman | dravonn: none that i'm aware of |
| 03:16.44 | jagginess | abrotman, he's saying debian has "stupid formalities" << don't take my word for it. read your irc. |
| 03:16.52 | abrotman | jagginess: you're not helping |
| 03:17.06 | jagginess | okok.. fine debian has "stupid formalities" |
| 03:17.09 | jagginess | takes a break fromirc |
| 03:17.12 | abrotman | rue_house: also note that some people create a package, but don't want to follow all the policy. So they never put the package into Debian |
| 03:17.12 | rue_house | I have had a few program I'v made that debian will never see |
| 03:17.13 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1195] by debhelper |
| 03:17.31 | dravonn | abrotman: why is it not in wheezy when it is in squeeze and sid? |
| 03:17.43 | abrotman | dravonn: which? aircrack-ng ? |
| 03:17.50 | dravonn | yea |
| 03:17.53 | rue_house | there is the side of it that the hurtle to get a piece of software accepted by the comittee is just too much for some people |
| 03:17.55 | abrotman | looks |
| 03:17.58 | abrotman | hurdle |
| 03:18.14 | abrotman | rue_house: then i guess that's their decision .. not a "stupid formality" |
| 03:18.37 | rue_house | but then there is other stuff to do with debian requiring a developer to rewirite everything |
| 03:18.39 | abrotman | dravonn: i only see it in sid |
| 03:18.46 | *** join/#debian abyxcos (~abyxcos@mnetic.ch) |
| 03:18.50 | abrotman | rue_house: okay, then don't complain if you don't want to do the work |
| 03:18.55 | rue_house | I think libtool is one of those things |
| 03:18.55 | *** join/#debian tom__ (~tom@S0106602ad0848210.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 03:19.02 | dravonn | ok, its in sid but not in wheezy. |
| 03:19.13 | abrotman | rue_house: libtool is in Debian |
| 03:19.16 | rue_house | I'm a recreational coder, I cant spend $100 to go get a key signed |
| 03:19.20 | abrotman | dravonn: check the BTS, it may have a record |
| 03:19.27 | abrotman | rue_house: it doesn't cost $100 to have a key signed |
| 03:19.28 | *** join/#debian Chelsea (~Chelsea@a82-161-180-155.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 03:19.32 | rue_house | maybe its not lobtool, there was something |
| 03:19.39 | rue_house | yes, it does in travel for _ME_ |
| 03:19.43 | abrotman | rue_house: okay, get your facts straight, come back and ask again |
| 03:19.48 | rue_house | caue I'm in the middle of nowhere |
| 03:19.51 | abrotman | rue_house: or ask when a DD will be near *you* |
| 03:20.01 | rue_house | they wont |
| 03:20.06 | abrotman | rue_house: bet they will |
| 03:20.08 | rue_house | I'm in a small town in the middle of nowhere |
| 03:20.13 | abrotman | rue_house: define "nowhere" |
| 03:20.16 | rue_house | sechelt bc |
| 03:20.27 | dravonn | bye |
| 03:20.31 | abrotman | rue_house: there were a fair number of DDs in BC some time ago .. |
| 03:20.33 | rue_house | canada |
| 03:20.42 | abrotman | rue_house: i just don't know at this point .. they may still be there |
| 03:20.48 | rue_house | in vancouver, sure, thats a $100 trip for me |
| 03:20.48 | *** join/#debian wad (~wad@cpe-76-166-193-58.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:20.57 | rue_house | if I can do it on a day I dont have to be at work |
| 03:21.10 | abrotman | rue_house: you don't know that .. you have to send an email to the list and see if someone might be traveling near you |
| 03:21.22 | dvs | Prince Rupert? |
| 03:21.23 | *** join/#debian whoaski (~whoaski@c-76-22-147-8.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:21.29 | abrotman | rue_house: i routinely return to the area I grew up, and that's in the middle of nowhere |
| 03:21.38 | Chelsea | Hi all, I've selected a wrong driver in "Additional Drivers", and now I'm stuck in textmode (allready did nvidia-xconfig). Is there a way to select drivers from the CLI? |
| 03:21.42 | rue_house | heh, prince rupert is a wek or so trip away |
| 03:21.56 | dvs | O_O |
| 03:22.08 | abrotman | rue_house: anyway .. send an email .. ask |
| 03:22.11 | rue_house | I think it a few hundred for a plane trip up there |
| 03:22.20 | wad | Kind of a generic linux question: I'm building a web application, which will allow users (of the web application) to store some files on the server's disk. Where in the filesystem should I put them? /var/www/userfiles seems lame... ideas? |
| 03:22.30 | rue_house | but thats just the beginning of a long process I dont have time for |
| 03:22.35 | abrotman | rue_house: you seem to only be about 40-50 miles outside vancouver? not unheard of for people to go for a Sunday drive |
| 03:22.53 | rue_house | yep, ferry+ = $100 |
| 03:23.06 | abrotman | rue_house: TO YOU |
| 03:23.16 | abrotman | have you sent the email yet? or just going to keep whining? |
| 03:23.19 | rue_house | suggesting they pay the $100? |
| 03:23.26 | Chelsea | Oops wrong channel. sorry. |
| 03:23.38 | abrotman | rue_house: some people enjoy taking weekend trips |
| 03:24.25 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 03:24.36 | rue_house | abrotman, when I looked at the process that it would take for me to get a peice of software into debian, I realized that its 4x to 5x the amount of work it takes me to make the software... |
| 03:24.45 | rue_house | I get your point, yes |
| 03:24.55 | abrotman | rue_house: have you emailed yet? |
| 03:25.12 | rue_house | no, I dont suspect I will either |
| 03:25.23 | abrotman | then i guess this conversation is pointless |
| 03:25.37 | DrakkenWarr | gah! then what the hell was the point of this how diatribe rue?!?! |
| 03:25.51 | abrotman | you don't care enough to create a package to Debian specs, and you don't want to get your key signed .. |
| 03:26.23 | thefunc5 | wad: building something similar to owncloud? |
| 03:26.24 | rue_house | sorry, to be sitting on the fence 'just complaining' but its something I'v looked at a number of times before, and even tho there are documents that step by step guide the whole process, and there are people who, dispite long long waiting lists, will help with 'your' project, I know I dont have the time |
| 03:26.37 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@223.207.173.151) |
| 03:26.50 | abrotman | dpkg: tell rue_house about mentors |
| 03:26.53 | abrotman | dpkg: tell rue_house about nmg |
| 03:27.13 | rue_house | I should point out this is a tangent of me asking if there were unofficial archies where software is 'just posted' |
| 03:27.37 | rue_house | ones that may not be signed and may not conform, but also might work |
| 03:27.46 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 03:28.29 | abrotman | rue_house: see the wiki .. but Debian does not have a PPA service like Ubuntu does |
| 03:30.04 | rue_house | I just know C |
| 03:30.30 | rue_house | to my knowledge I have written the only properly working BVH player |
| 03:30.50 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 03:30.54 | abrotman | can you create something to open MDI files in linux? :) |
| 03:31.09 | rue_house | and I have a nice little command line circle calculator |
| 03:32.00 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdaren (~darren@72.173.143.6) |
| 03:32.28 | *** join/#debian aauthor (~aauthor@74.83.27.142) |
| 03:33.37 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@77.49.44.50.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 03:34.23 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 03:35.22 | *** join/#debian sellers86 (~sellers86@173-29-235-208.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:36.34 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host207-154-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:36.45 | dima | how is /etc/bash.bashrc supposed to be sourced? it wasn't being sourced by /etc/profile. i'm on etch |
| 03:36.46 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 03:37.00 | abrotman | dima: $HOME/.bashrc ? |
| 03:37.22 | dima | abrotman: what if nothing seems to be sourcing my $HOME/.bashrc |
| 03:37.38 | dima | abrotman: funny you say that--i'm futzing with things to make $HOME/.bashrc get sourced :D |
| 03:37.39 | abrotman | might happen |
| 03:37.59 | jagginess | dima, you can copy the sample from /etc/skel/.bashrc to ~ |
| 03:38.12 | abrotman | dima: isn't there a note at the top of .bashrc that it's for non-login shells or something ? |
| 03:38.16 | dima | jagginess: i will take a note |
| 03:38.23 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 03:38.30 | *** join/#debian steven777 (~martin@54.145.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 03:38.37 | jagginess | dima, you should also have ~/.profile |
| 03:38.41 | dima | abrotman: /etc/bash.bashrc DOES get sourced for non-login shells. lemme see if there's a note. i'm going to look at .bashrc in /etc/skel, too |
| 03:38.58 | dima | jagginess: should ~/.profile source .bashrc on the login shell? |
| 03:39.17 | jagginess | dima, it can be script dependent.. the manpage should say.. |
| 03:39.33 | dima | is there a documented /way things /should/ be/ wrt to these sourcings? |
| 03:39.58 | jagginess | dima, it says in-> man bash<enter> |
| 03:40.03 | dima | jagginess: :D |
| 03:40.08 | dima | right on |
| 03:42.01 | *** join/#debian Mmike (~msplival@188.129.51.128) |
| 03:43.18 | *** join/#debian ferret_ (~ferret@gentoo/user/ferret) |
| 03:43.29 | *** join/#debian psycode (~sy@24.111.9.10) |
| 03:43.42 | *** join/#debian JoeHazzers (~Joe@area11.joehazzers.com) |
| 03:44.17 | *** join/#debian graphitemaster (~graphitem@unaffiliated/graphitemaster) |
| 03:45.29 | *** join/#debian ect (ec@faeroes.sdf.org) |
| 03:45.48 | *** join/#debian JoeAngel_ (~JoeAngel_@122-118-190-244.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 03:45.53 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-135-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 03:46.21 | *** part/#debian ect (ec@faeroes.sdf.org) |
| 03:46.28 | steven777 | I have two miniPCI slots in my T60. One of those miniPCI slots has WiFi adapter(Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG) and second one has HSDPA adapter(Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG). WiFI adapter is listed in "lspci" output while HSDPA adapter is listed in "lsusb" output. How is this possible? I mean how can device in miniPCI slot appear in "lsusb" output? It should use PCI bus, shouldn't it? |
| 03:50.32 | psycode | maybe you are seeing it listed as usb because it is being used by the driver as a usb device |
| 03:51.25 | psycode | maybe only one card is actually being used |
| 03:51.34 | psycode | who knows ? |
| 03:52.32 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~marco@wikipedia/harddisk) |
| 03:52.57 | *** join/#debian hashem (~hashem@ool-457fb7cd.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:53.07 | *** join/#debian I440r (~zhiming@230.sub-70-194-73.myvzw.com) |
| 03:53.14 | *** part/#debian I440r (~zhiming@230.sub-70-194-73.myvzw.com) |
| 03:54.54 | *** join/#debian Rez (lorez@freenode/staff/lorez) |
| 03:56.03 | *** join/#debian idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) |
| 03:56.48 | Coweater | steven777: minipcie has usb wiring with it |
| 03:57.23 | *** join/#debian KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) |
| 03:58.21 | *** join/#debian Dbug_ (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 04:00.35 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@debian/developer/arno) |
| 04:02.52 | psycode | the house passed it |
| 04:05.07 | steven777 | Coweater, is this required by miniPCI specification? |
| 04:08.38 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 04:09.23 | *** join/#debian KiSM_ (~KiSM@CPE-124-178-142-133.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 04:10.18 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@215.94.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz) |
| 04:13.24 | steven777 | Coweater, sorry, those are not miniPCI, but miniPCI-E slots. In this case they probably use pins 36(USB_D-) and 38(USB_D+) for data. |
| 04:14.31 | Coweater | you said t60 so i went with that being pci-e |
| 04:15.18 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~bocaneri@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 04:16.04 | *** join/#debian b_jonas (~x@russell2.math.bme.hu) |
| 04:16.08 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~i@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 04:16.43 | *** join/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 04:17.56 | *** join/#debian drumr7 (~drumr@ip98-167-200-244.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:18.41 | *** join/#debian despoil (~despoil@c-24-0-55-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 04:19.20 | *** join/#debian denile (~denile@unaffiliated/denile) |
| 04:19.59 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boudiccas@unaffiliated/boudiccas) |
| 04:20.09 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 04:20.33 | steven777 | Coweater, ok :) |
| 04:21.34 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~cra1g321@host31-52-18-227.range31-52.btcentralplus.com) |
| 04:27.19 | *** join/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.30 | *** part/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.32 | *** join/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.34 | *** part/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.36 | *** join/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.38 | *** part/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.40 | *** join/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.42 | *** part/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.44 | *** join/#debian univyrse (~univyrse@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 04:27.44 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] by debhelper |
| 04:27.46 | *** kick/#debian [univyrse!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (Banned: join flood) |
| 04:33.57 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-74-217.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:34.02 | *** join/#debian MrSmurf (~MrSmurf@unaffiliated/mrsmurf) |
| 04:35.51 | *** join/#debian cool_code (~coolcode@gateway/tor-sasl/coolcode/x-71588274) |
| 04:36.32 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@97-113-115-104.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 04:38.38 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 04:40.12 | *** join/#debian lfaraone (~quassel@2001:4830:2446:60:216:3eff:feff:ff01) |
| 04:40.35 | *** join/#debian torpid (~torpid@2607:f4b8:2600:1::dead) |
| 04:49.26 | *** join/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 04:51.31 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (yucatan@541B077F.cm-5-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 04:53.43 | *** join/#debian mczhb_ (~mczhb@p4FF9B4FC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:55.35 | *** join/#debian hashem_ (~hashem@ool-457fb7cd.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:57.06 | *** join/#debian Costanza (~Costanza@unaffiliated/costanza) |
| 04:57.39 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdaren (~darren@72.173.143.6) |
| 04:58.15 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@68-190-59-32.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] by debhelper |
| 04:59.47 | Costanza | i have compiled the kernel sucessfully.. but i am stuck now.. http://blog.realcomputerguy.com/2012/05/efi-stub-booting-without-bootloader.html this guide mentions "cp /boot/kernel-3.4.0-gentoo bootx64.efi but" but i only have initrd.img-3.7.1 and vmlinuz-3.7.1... what to do? what file should i turn into bootx64.efi ??? |
| 05:01.13 | Devastator | is this vanilla? |
| 05:01.16 | Costanza | as i understand the guide, the kernel needs to be copied over as a bootx64.efi |
| 05:01.23 | Costanza | yes i used source from kernel.org |
| 05:02.04 | Devastator | i don't think vanilla kernels are supported here.. but you may wait for an "official" answer |
| 05:02.46 | *** join/#debian MissionCritical (~MissionCr@unaffiliated/missioncritical) |
| 05:04.13 | germanxn | hi |
| 05:04.27 | Costanza | hi |
| 05:04.28 | germanxn | im running debian 6.0.6 |
| 05:04.42 | germanxn | i can boot only with acpi=off |
| 05:04.48 | germanxn | on a desktop machine |
| 05:04.52 | Rusty1 | menu-shut down |
| 05:05.16 | germanxn | should i care of that? |
| 05:05.56 | germanxn | also if i go to grub menu and type |
| 05:06.03 | germanxn | $acpi |
| 05:06.04 | germanxn | $exit |
| 05:06.18 | germanxn | (without acpi=off) |
| 05:06.24 | germanxn | it works |
| 05:06.41 | germanxn | does it set acpi=off??? |
| 05:07.04 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 05:07.13 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1188] by debhelper |
| 05:07.29 | *** join/#debian Onixs (~Onixs@112.204.183.67) |
| 05:10.24 | *** join/#debian paulbanks (Paul@212.54.218.231.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 05:11.19 | *** join/#debian Incognita (~lunar1999@wsip-72-214-242-26.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 05:12.36 | Incognita | would anyone know the easiest way to determine which sda my Grub2 is located on? I need to be sure for an install |
| 05:13.40 | LtL | Incognita: you can only have one /dev/sda |
| 05:14.10 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~steve@ip70-190-6-12.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:14.55 | Incognita | I mean as far as sda0, sda1, sda2, etc |
| 05:15.04 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@109.172.15.19) |
| 05:15.46 | LtL | Incognita: that i can't say |
| 05:15.46 | rue_house | mount |
| 05:15.57 | rue_house | see what is mounted as root |
| 05:16.04 | rue_house | its a good bet thats where grub is installed |
| 05:16.19 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host232-155-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:16.37 | LtL | rue_house: shoulda thought of that, thanks |
| 05:16.48 | Incognita | I looked at GParted and it seemed to suggest sda1 |
| 05:16.56 | henry_IT | i have a question |
| 05:17.35 | henry_IT | whenever i restart my pc my webserver debian i keeps using ifup eth |
| 05:17.43 | Incognita | here is a screnshot of my result (http://bayimg.com/HaiNiaaeA) |
| 05:17.43 | henry_IT | to get up the eth |
| 05:18.31 | cra1g321 | Incognita maybe this might help you - http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/how-to-find-where-grub-is-installed-in-ubuntu/ |
| 05:18.48 | cra1g321 | i've never used it though |
| 05:19.11 | Incognita | cra1g321: Thanks...hm, well does the screen I posted look like grub2 is on sda1? |
| 05:19.30 | steven777 | Is this possible that Wi-Fi adapter requires firmware, but does not require kernel module? |
| 05:20.04 | *** join/#debian rasusto (~devnull@70.44.136.21.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) |
| 05:20.21 | *** join/#debian sdcardo (~sdcardo@69.227.173.64) |
| 05:21.08 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 05:21.57 | *** join/#debian terr1 (~terr1@d40a51e9.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 05:22.19 | *** join/#debian zed45 (~py@ool-18b9bd01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:24.03 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@178.204.6.227) |
| 05:26.06 | Whiskey | How do you update debian from terminal? |
| 05:26.26 | Arrowmaster | using aptitude |
| 05:26.35 | cra1g321 | Whiskey or apt-get update then apt-get upgrade |
| 05:26.38 | Incognita | cra1g321: Thanks again. Just did your suggestion and got this nice answer: "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1" |
| 05:27.34 | cra1g321 | Incognita good 2 hear, yeah i think most installers will install it on the hdd /dev/sda rather than an actual partition /dev/sda1 |
| 05:27.41 | *** join/#debian jagginess (~jb@modemcable032.45-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:28.05 | Arrowmaster | something must be installed to /dev/sda for the system to boot |
| 05:28.50 | Incognita | cra1g321: Yeah, i;m updating LMDE to an new update pack so I needed to be sure. Sda1 here I come |
| 05:29.25 | henry_IT | pls help |
| 05:31.27 | *** join/#debian wolfpython (~wolf@112.20.94.89) |
| 05:31.58 | henry_IT | how to check the current chmod? |
| 05:32.21 | LtL | henry_IT: stat file |
| 05:33.45 | henry_IT | thanks |
| 05:33.54 | henry_IT | i have problem also in networking |
| 05:34.20 | henry_IT | whenever i restart my debian 6.06 im always to up my ethernet |
| 05:35.42 | Whiskey | lol don´t debian have sudo? |
| 05:36.11 | boudiccas | Whiskey: yes, have a look at /etc/sudoers |
| 05:36.14 | rue_house | henry_IT, |
| 05:37.05 | henry_IT | yes? |
| 05:37.09 | rue_house | henry_IT, what is in your /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 05:37.15 | *** join/#debian germanxn_ (~chatzilla@r186-52-39-57.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 05:37.21 | Whiskey | it was empty boudiccas |
| 05:37.27 | henry_IT | i create static ip |
| 05:37.33 | sdcardo | Happy GNU year! |
| 05:37.34 | rue_house | henry_IT, what is in your /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 05:37.49 | rue_house | thats where the boot up config goes |
| 05:38.54 | henry_IT | ok w8 |
| 05:39.23 | Whiskey | I don´t have that file |
| 05:39.44 | boudiccas | Whiskey: open /etc/sudoers as root and it wont be empty |
| 05:39.56 | rue_house | then thats why you dont boot with configured network |
| 05:40.09 | rue_house | henry_IT, what is the static ip you use? |
| 05:41.07 | Whiskey | it don´t exist |
| 05:41.10 | henry_IT | paste.bin.org? |
| 05:41.21 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host223-157-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:41.22 | boudiccas | Whiskey: what version of debian are you using? |
| 05:41.31 | rue_house | Whiskey, do you want your computer to automatically get an address when it boots? |
| 05:41.37 | henry_IT | here http://paste.debian.net/220976/ |
| 05:41.55 | Whiskey | latest |
| 05:42.27 | rue_house | Whiskey, you need to create /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:42.38 | rue_house | (someone tell me if I'm out of date) |
| 05:42.49 | rue_house | Whiskey, can you type text I give you to make the file? |
| 05:43.06 | Whiskey | yeh sure |
| 05:43.12 | boudiccas | Whiskey: that means nothing. the latest is squeeze, debian 6.0.6. i'm using wheezy, the unreleased next version of debian. so, /exactly/ what version of debian are you using? |
| 05:43.18 | *** join/#debian abchirk__ (~abchirk@g225108000.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 05:43.24 | rue_house | do you want to use static ip? |
| 05:43.40 | *** join/#debian maotm (~kvirc@maotm.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 05:43.57 | henry_IT | who? |
| 05:44.04 | rue_house | Whiskey, |
| 05:44.10 | rue_house | Whiskey, do you want to use static ip? |
| 05:44.12 | henry_IT | here my etc/network/interfaces http://paste.debian.net/220976/ |
| 05:44.27 | sdcardo | Happy GNU year! |
| 05:44.53 | rue_house | http://paste.debian.net/220977/ <- Whiskey can you put the text from this into a file /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 05:45.01 | rue_house | ;) |
| 05:45.12 | boudiccas | Whiskey: exactly what problem are you trying to solve? i'm trying to help you with getting 'sudo' to work, and rue_house seems to be helping you with some network issue. so which do you want sorted first? |
| 05:45.12 | rue_house | henry_IT, your on, I'm going to bed |
| 05:45.17 | Whiskey | latest stable then |
| 05:45.33 | sdcardo | Someone on #gnu said "GNU year should be more accurately celebrated on the 3rd on Jan....for the science geeks anyways" |
| 05:45.37 | rue_house | good luck it dosn't speak english |
| 05:45.59 | sdcardo | But then again those who celebrate GNUvidad do so on December 25th instead of March 16th |
| 05:47.39 | *** join/#debian Xab (~Xabster@188.114.146.35) |
| 05:47.44 | Whiskey | boudiccas: ii installed it like 30min ago |
| 05:48.00 | boudiccas | Whiskey: you installed what? |
| 05:48.12 | Xab | During the guided installation you can install additional things such as SQL server, webserver, etc... which ones are they? and what does the "Laptop" option mean? It install a laptop? |
| 05:49.01 | henry_IT | aw |
| 05:49.15 | henry_IT | can any1 help me pls |
| 05:53.10 | Whiskey | Debian for 30min ago |
| 05:53.14 | Whiskey | as i told i have lastest stable |
| 05:53.50 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:54.23 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~i@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 05:55.07 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 05:55.44 | *** join/#debian stonerfish (~stonerfis@cpe-66-74-177-116.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:56.10 | boudiccas | Whiskey: right, so you're running 'squeeze', fair enough. use gedit/leafpad/nano /etc/sudoers as root and you will get a file with text in it |
| 05:57.11 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@68-190-90-80.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 05:57.29 | Whiskey | you don´t listen to me |
| 05:57.32 | Whiskey | the file is not there |
| 05:57.43 | *** join/#debian dido (~dido@203.215.122.157) |
| 05:57.54 | boudiccas | Whiskey: and then at # User privilege specification, you will se a line saying about root. |
| 05:58.01 | boudiccas | wtf have you done with it then? |
| 05:58.14 | Whiskey | nothing |
| 05:58.29 | boudiccas | Whiskey: what DE are you using? |
| 05:58.50 | Whiskey | DE? |
| 05:58.53 | Whiskey | aaa |
| 05:58.55 | boudiccas | Whiskey: gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, etc? |
| 05:58.56 | Whiskey | none just terminal |
| 05:59.07 | cra1g321 | he probably doesnt have sudo installed |
| 05:59.10 | LtL | Whiskey: apt-get install sudo ; that should crete sudoers |
| 05:59.23 | LtL | create* |
| 05:59.56 | cra1g321 | it has nothing to do with what DE you are using |
| 05:59.57 | boudiccas | LtL: cra1g321 doesn't sudo come as default? i've never had to install it, so i'm not sure |
| 06:00.06 | *** join/#debian Guest58631 (~Anurag@117.200.145.255) |
| 06:00.15 | cra1g321 | when im doing a netinstall it doesnt |
| 06:00.33 | LtL | boudiccas: it always has for me for years but dpkg says its optional! |
| 06:00.42 | boudiccas | cra1g321: the line of thought was going to say open appropriate file manager for the DE, but we never got that far |
| 06:01.06 | cra1g321 | ahright |
| 06:01.50 | Xab | on a completely fresh install the update manager fails because the "main" repository has "http://" in the URL twice............ |
| 06:02.07 | Xab | "http://http://us.debian..." |
| 06:02.33 | boudiccas | Xab: obviously then, lose one of them and then update |
| 06:02.41 | Xab | it's a fresh install |
| 06:02.44 | Xab | completely |
| 06:03.44 | Xab | hmm wait, it says http://http.us.debian.org/ |
| 06:03.47 | Whiskey | lol talk about complicated |
| 06:03.51 | *** join/#debian odirus (~odirus@223.85.8.235) |
| 06:03.52 | Xab | but still it's 404 and no updates available |
| 06:05.20 | Whiskey | wtf |
| 06:05.25 | *** join/#debian sooraj1 (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 06:05.30 | Xab | that was a short test of debian, but i think i got my answer... back to a working OS :p |
| 06:06.17 | cra1g321 | Xab are u changing os because of that ? |
| 06:06.22 | Whiskey | http://pastebin.com/DyRAzas9 |
| 06:06.37 | Xab | because the update manager doesn't work properly out of the box? yes sir |
| 06:06.52 | cra1g321 | works fine here |
| 06:07.06 | Xab | doesn't help me a lot though |
| 06:07.24 | cra1g321 | do u want me to help you ? or are going to run off to another OS ? |
| 06:07.45 | odirus | May i ask a question? I found two partitions have the same UUID, I think because I copy one to other partition, So I changed one partition's UUID , But how to let the new root partion works? |
| 06:07.45 | Xab | well, if i made a mistake during the guided install i'd like to know what I did |
| 06:07.57 | Xab | if it's a problem with the site and/or the update manager, then i'm fleeing |
| 06:08.16 | boudiccas | Xab: you havent given us basic information for us to help you. you havent said what version of debian you've installed, and you havent give us a pastebin of your sources.list. cant do much without them |
| 06:08.39 | Xab | 6.0.6 x64 |
| 06:08.48 | Xab | where do i find the sources.list? i haven't changed it at all |
| 06:08.57 | cra1g321 | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:09.07 | boudiccas | Xab: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:09.48 | Xab | they're standard http://http.us.debian.org/ links - i can't copy/paste cause it's in a VM |
| 06:09.51 | Whiskey | boudiccas: Why does it fail? |
| 06:10.05 | boudiccas | Whiskey: why does /what/ fail? |
| 06:10.37 | odirus | Can somebody help me? Thank you! |
| 06:10.59 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 06:11.41 | cra1g321 | Xab it should be http://ftp.us.debian.org |
| 06:12.11 | cra1g321 | for example - deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main |
| 06:12.17 | Whiskey | boudiccas: http://pastebin.com/DyRAzas9 |
| 06:12.20 | Xab | so in a completely fresh install of the latest version the links are simply broken? |
| 06:13.11 | cra1g321 | Xab i've never heard of it happening before |
| 06:13.46 | cra1g321 | the installer just seemed to have picked http://http instead of http://fpt |
| 06:14.10 | *** part/#debian odirus (~odirus@223.85.8.235) |
| 06:14.17 | boudiccas | Whiskey: you've put anton in the wrong place, wait and i'll paste what you actually need |
| 06:14.59 | cra1g321 | boudiccas that should still work though |
| 06:15.07 | Xab | cra1g321: are they all supposed to be ftp? |
| 06:15.22 | Xab | and why is it a http protocol link to a subdomain called ftp? |
| 06:15.31 | Whiskey | boudiccas: thx |
| 06:15.34 | boudiccas | Whiskey: # User privilege specification |
| 06:15.35 | boudiccas | rootALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 06:15.35 | boudiccas | antonALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 06:15.46 | cra1g321 | Xab http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 06:16.17 | Xab | http://http.us.debian.org/ seems to work |
| 06:16.21 | Xab | the file is just not there |
| 06:16.40 | boudiccas | Whiskey: lose the NOPASSWD: |
| 06:16.43 | cra1g321 | i think your meant to use ftp though |
| 06:16.46 | henry_IT | how can i start my network |
| 06:16.53 | cra1g321 | not on debian here so cant check myself |
| 06:16.54 | henry_IT | i use static ip |
| 06:17.52 | Whiskey | i did try that two :/( |
| 06:18.07 | Whiskey | anton is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 06:18.13 | Arrowmaster | henry_IT: `ifup eth0` if its configured in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 06:18.21 | cra1g321 | Whiskey what user are editing the file as ? |
| 06:18.31 | cra1g321 | you* |
| 06:18.36 | Konomi | sudo visudo |
| 06:18.38 | Konomi | erm |
| 06:18.41 | Konomi | well from su |
| 06:18.46 | Konomi | should be what you are doing |
| 06:18.57 | Whiskey | i got it |
| 06:18.57 | Whiskey | thx |
| 06:18.58 | boudiccas | Whiskey: i cut and pasted what is in my sudoers file, and it works. so yours should too, especially if you lose the NOPASSWD |
| 06:19.20 | *** join/#debian qos_ (~qos@221.223.85.90) |
| 06:19.26 | cra1g321 | become root, proper root not sudo then edit the file |
| 06:22.50 | *** join/#debian rdqfdx (~rdqfdx@78.90.88.244) |
| 06:22.54 | Xab | cra1g321, i tried to change the server in the update manager's dialog and i got that another package manager was running when trying to change to a danish server |
| 06:23.45 | Xab | apt-get or aptitude, neither of which i have started and i haven't touched *anything* except filemanager to view that sources.list file and the update manager "link" in system->administration |
| 06:23.46 | cra1g321 | you probably have another program open which is using a file which you are trying to change |
| 06:23.53 | Xab | well, i didn't start it |
| 06:24.06 | Xab | rebooting didn't help |
| 06:24.25 | *** join/#debian Onixs (~Onixs@112.204.183.67) |
| 06:24.30 | Xab | guess i'll have to live with Ubuntu's amazon advertisement fuckup |
| 06:25.05 | *** join/#debian dido (~dido@203.215.122.157) |
| 06:25.35 | cra1g321 | Xab go with Linux Mint if your thinking of going back to Ubuntu IMO |
| 06:25.48 | Xab | reasons? |
| 06:26.17 | *** join/#debian tekusee22 (~andre@p4FD4564B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:26.24 | Infiltrator | Xab: Why are running away from Debian anyway? |
| 06:26.31 | cra1g321 | no buttons to the left, no Unity, NO purple, NO bloated software center, no amazon ads |
| 06:26.51 | Xab | Infiltrator: it didn't work out of the box |
| 06:26.59 | Xab | cra1g321: sold |
| 06:27.49 | Xab | no gnome desktop though? |
| 06:27.56 | Xab | you swear to KDE? |
| 06:28.05 | Xab | guess ill try it |
| 06:28.09 | *** join/#debian FloJpg (~fpougheon@68.143.64.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 06:28.10 | Xab | (more) |
| 06:28.16 | cra1g321 | i dont use KDE |
| 06:28.17 | henry_IT | its eht2 |
| 06:29.06 | cra1g321 | i've been doing alot of distro-hopping, usually im on Linux Mint with cinnamon, opensuse 12.2 with KDE, or debian/crunchbang with openbox |
| 06:29.08 | Infiltrator | Xab: On what hardware? What are the problems? |
| 06:29.19 | Xab | it's got nothing to do with hardware |
| 06:29.26 | Xab | the URL for the update manager is broken |
| 06:29.54 | cra1g321 | sounds like Linux Mint would be better suited to you Xab |
| 06:30.16 | Infiltrator | Xab: What've you got in your sources.list? It sounds like a really easy fix. |
| 06:30.16 | Xab | which DE do you recommend for mint? |
| 06:30.31 | Xab | Infiltrator: 1) i changed them to the correct URL but it still error'd |
| 06:30.39 | Xab | took one from the list given to me earlier |
| 06:30.49 | Xab | and 2) i don't want an OS with such an easy-to-fix error |
| 06:30.54 | Xab | it's a bad sign of things to come |
| 06:31.07 | Thundarr | can't you turn off the amazon ads |
| 06:31.21 | Thundarr | I was under the impression it was a simple switch. |
| 06:31.24 | boudiccas | Xab: you screwed up! no one else has had this problem, therefore you must have caused it |
| 06:31.26 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@node-7s3.pool-101-51.dynamic.totbb.net) |
| 06:31.26 | Xab | Thundarr: it is |
| 06:31.36 | Infiltrator | boudiccas: That's probably a bit harsh. |
| 06:31.52 | Xab | boudiccas: i somehow fucked it up in the guided install - can you think of way how? |
| 06:31.53 | Infiltrator | Xab: Howere, it does seem like a problem isolated to your system. |
| 06:32.05 | Infiltrator | s/Howere/However/ |
| 06:32.24 | Xab | well, the URL that does not work didn't come from me - it's http://http.us.debian.org/debian/main/sources or something like that |
| 06:32.29 | Xab | and true enough, that folder is not present |
| 06:32.38 | metaphysician | Why on Earth are you using Linux Mint? What's wrong with Debian/Ubuntu? |
| 06:32.42 | Xab | it's a 404 error on a very specific URL i have not seen before |
| 06:33.18 | Xab | please tell me how *I* caused that error |
| 06:33.24 | Thundarr | I personally can't use mint. I might have some jewish ancestory. |
| 06:34.10 | boudiccas | Xab: no its too long since i last used squeeze, so cant think of any special circumstances for it |
| 06:35.17 | Xab | i promise you that i clicked on nothing after it booted and only browsed the top menus for the software updater (since i've just installed fedora, ubuntu, opensuse, debian and wanted to update them all first) |
| 06:35.24 | Infiltrator | Xab: Why the sources bit at the end? |
| 06:35.30 | Xab | don't ask me |
| 06:35.34 | Xab | i just ran the updater |
| 06:35.38 | Infiltrator | Xab: One sec. |
| 06:35.43 | *** part/#debian tekusee22 (~andre@p4FD4564B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:35.48 | *** join/#debian sarkis (~sarkis@unaffiliated/sako) |
| 06:35.53 | boudiccas | Xab: you said "Xab> Infiltrator: 1) i changed them to the correct URL but it still error'd" did you apt-get update after that? |
| 06:36.02 | Xab | no |
| 06:36.10 | Infiltrator | Xab: Try putting this instead: "deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib" |
| 06:36.16 | Xab | i only used the update manager, then i got the error and came here |
| 06:36.16 | Infiltrator | Without the au bit, obviously. |
| 06:36.18 | sarkis | hey all, using reprepro can i have my apt repo run on the same server i will use it from? |
| 06:36.32 | boudiccas | Xab: right, you need to apt-get update every time after you make changes to sources.list |
| 06:36.43 | Xab | boudiccas: it asked if i wanted to "reload" |
| 06:36.55 | boudiccas | Xab: you need to update |
| 06:37.02 | Xab | reload is not "update"? |
| 06:37.08 | boudiccas | Xab: no |
| 06:37.14 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1180] by debhelper |
| 06:37.53 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@178.204.115.194) |
| 06:39.55 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 06:43.19 | *** join/#debian a-l-e (~quassel@72-77.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 06:46.00 | henry_IT | how can i root log in ing debian |
| 06:48.18 | EmleyMoor | henry_IT: Can you explain your problem with doing so? |
| 06:50.58 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@178.204.115.194) |
| 06:51.06 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host119-155-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:51.19 | somiaj | henry_IT: you can disable root login via ssh (I belive that is the default because it is more secure). You can use 'su -' to login as root from a normal user |
| 06:51.49 | *** join/#debian odirus (~odirus@223.85.11.86) |
| 06:54.34 | *** join/#debian mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) |
| 06:56.11 | henry_IT | ok |
| 06:56.33 | henry_IT | i have a problem also in my built in ethernet lan |
| 06:58.27 | *** join/#debian daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@2001:388:608c:4c40:85e7:3cda:7b87:9324) |
| 06:59.23 | zykotick9 | somiaj: looks like permitrootlogin defaults to yes (in wheezy anyways). "grep -i root /etc/ssh/sshd_config" |
| 06:59.34 | somiaj | zykotick9: ahh I forgot if it was on or off... |
| 06:59.56 | zykotick9 | somiaj: having it off would make more sense to me |
| 07:00.26 | *** join/#debian cardamon (~mute@c-24-30-40-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:00.38 | somiaj | zykotick9: yea I turn it off enough I almost thought it was default... |
| 07:00.55 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 07:01.21 | *** join/#debian sarkis (~sarkis@unaffiliated/sako) |
| 07:01.34 | cardamon | Evening folks. |
| 07:02.48 | *** join/#debian frxstrem (~frxstrem@ti0089a340-dhcp1246.bb.online.no) |
| 07:02.59 | frxstrem | Is there a way for me to measure the power consumption of my hard disk drive? |
| 07:03.17 | somiaj | zykotick9: though I don't know if giving my main user full sudo privlages is that much more secure....but I can pretend |
| 07:03.37 | *** join/#debian bniels (~niels@p4FD6B0C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:03.49 | cardamon | I'm looking at the Debian Reference Manual and the Debian Security Manual and bemoaning the format. Any idea if anyone's made a decent epub of one? |
| 07:04.05 | zykotick9 | somiaj: i'm not a fan of sudo. i believe in the devision of user and administrator. i find sudo "muddies" that water. |
| 07:04.20 | somiaj | frxstrem: I haven't seen a tool that measures that. |
| 07:04.37 | somiaj | zykotick9: I like it a lot, because it makes you think when you type a root command more |
| 07:05.15 | somiaj | zykotick9: but I'm a desktop user, on a server with multiple admins it is a wonderful tool because it makes it easy to seprate privlages |
| 07:05.38 | zykotick9 | somiaj: agreed. for mutli-admin setups, it makes more sense. |
| 07:06.03 | somiaj | zykotick9: I just like it because it means I never have a root console open on my desktop |
| 07:06.14 | cardamon | zykotick9: In a world where admins and users are more likely two seperate individuals, I'd agree. |
| 07:07.08 | cardamon | checks to see if he still remembers his root password... |
| 07:07.15 | cardamon | heh, success. |
| 07:07.31 | somiaj | I don't think I know my root passwords, I just make them random and long and never use it |
| 07:08.03 | *** join/#debian m4sker (m4sker@58.219.242.242) |
| 07:08.25 | cardamon | Mine are phrases from books that stick in my head. A dictionary crack might eventually get one, but I truncate the phrases. |
| 07:08.28 | *** join/#debian GabrieleV (~GabrieleV@host190-79-static.230-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:08.48 | *** join/#debian o1e (~o1e@p5DD0F1D7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:09.12 | *** join/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@63-145-229-42.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 07:09.25 | zykotick9 | passwords no longer make sense. you need to use pass-sentences. |
| 07:09.44 | *** join/#debian weedar (~vn@2a02:2728:1:202:b6b5:2fff:fe32:ee81) |
| 07:09.50 | Thundarr | indeed. I use sentences. |
| 07:10.09 | Thundarr | honestly they are easier to remember anyway. |
| 07:10.28 | cardamon | The password to mount my encrypted drive is about 20 words long. It's a well known phrase, truncated slightly, but it takes a minute to enter. |
| 07:11.22 | *** join/#debian Someguy123 (~someguy@unaffiliated/compgenius999) |
| 07:11.45 | *** join/#debian Guest82751 (~quassel@cpc11-finc13-2-0-cust520.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:12.00 | *** join/#debian jakenl (~jaap@2001:980:90d6:1:21e:8cff:fe01:3479) |
| 07:12.25 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@2a01:e34:ee54:8ae0:b4:9684:1d2e:6e5a) |
| 07:13.35 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 07:13.44 | somiaj | cardamon: yea I need to get a new password scheme...but as most humans I don't like change |
| 07:15.26 | pmo | humans like change ;p |
| 07:15.42 | *** join/#debian otend (~otend@c-69-242-188-14.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 07:15.43 | bassliner | humans are lazy, though. |
| 07:15.49 | bassliner | for a couple of reasons. |
| 07:15.50 | otend | How can I give a user permission to open the terminal? |
| 07:16.39 | cardamon | somiaj: Really, you, me, and the majority of users in here (I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt) are not the problem when it comes to security. At least at a institutional level. |
| 07:17.19 | otend | I run a server for a few friends to screw around in, and I'm trying to administrate the very same server through synergy, but I can't open a terminal to get it to set up. |
| 07:17.36 | cardamon | It's the secretary and clerks who use the same simple passwords, for everything, written on a post it note HOPEFULLY underneath the keyboard rather than against the monitor. |
| 07:17.45 | cardamon | has worked in the office |
| 07:17.50 | cardamon | >_> |
| 07:18.11 | somiaj | cardamon: I know good security passwords, doesn't mean I use them everywhere...though keypassx has helped me a lot |
| 07:18.12 | Infiltrator | cardamon: It's sad because it's true. :( |
| 07:19.30 | somiaj | cardamon: there is some research that shows all of he secuirty pratices though good in general (requring certain critera for passwords (i.e. password checking) and making the users change them every 90 days and check against old passwords and patterns makes for good passwords) |
| 07:19.31 | pmo | just use a long password of any kind and you are ok safe |
| 07:19.43 | somiaj | cardamon: but many people write the password down somewhere defating everything |
| 07:19.49 | *** join/#debian 45PABMMXK (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 07:20.02 | cardamon | somiaj: Or changing the passwords to something common. |
| 07:21.16 | cardamon | Like adding one number to the existing one. Or incrementing that number. |
| 07:21.33 | cardamon | password01, password02, password11 |
| 07:21.46 | *** join/#debian k4tfish (~k4tfish@reniced.net) |
| 07:22.18 | somiaj | good places check for that |
| 07:22.23 | otend | ... |
| 07:22.29 | otend | #debian-offtopic |
| 07:22.37 | *** join/#debian phix (~threat@123-243-44-131.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 07:22.55 | cardamon | Security is on topic. Your password is probably terrible. :P |
| 07:23.00 | pmo | otend, very related to any OS :) |
| 07:23.12 | Whiskey | How do you get terminal colors to work? |
| 07:23.16 | cardamon | is no saint on it |
| 07:23.24 | Whiskey | found some on internet, but its not turning on for that |
| 07:23.28 | somiaj | Whiskey: where do you want colors? |
| 07:23.34 | cardamon | Whiskey: depends on the terminal and what your terminfo is set to. What term are you running? |
| 07:23.36 | otend | anyway, what group do I add a user to so that I can let them open a terminal or access ssh? |
| 07:23.36 | somiaj | Whiskey: they are usually done with escape sequences |
| 07:23.39 | Whiskey | well as it is in ubuntu or whatever |
| 07:23.40 | otend | primarily open a terminal |
| 07:23.42 | cardamon | and what somiaj said too. |
| 07:23.59 | Whiskey | cardamon: no clue |
| 07:24.00 | Whiskey | you talk about dumb or xterm and that crap? |
| 07:24.02 | cardamon | Whiskey: We're not mind readers. Be specific. |
| 07:24.06 | somiaj | I think the default debian .bashrc has some lines you can comment out to get color |
| 07:24.09 | somiaj | I can share mine if you want |
| 07:24.18 | Whiskey | cardamon: im not a geek im not rellay sure what im talk about |
| 07:24.35 | pmo | otend, all can open the terminal |
| 07:24.39 | cardamon | Whiskey: You're in a debian chatroom asking for support. You're a geek. |
| 07:24.42 | otend | apparently, this one can't |
| 07:24.47 | Whiskey | hehe :) |
| 07:24.48 | cardamon | ^_^ |
| 07:24.49 | otend | every terminal emulator has failed to open |
| 07:24.50 | somiaj | Whiskey: modify your .bashrc file, I belive there are some lines you can uncomment to get colored prompts if that is what you want? |
| 07:24.53 | Whiskey | anyways if its what you mean i use xterm |
| 07:25.03 | otend | believe me, I've tried |
| 07:25.07 | Whiskey | somiaj: i did try that no change |
| 07:25.07 | pmo | otend, what error? and what did you do to that debian install? |
| 07:25.09 | Whiskey | need to reboot? |
| 07:25.23 | somiaj | Whiskey: you need to reload bash |
| 07:25.28 | somiaj | Whiskey: so open a new terminal |
| 07:25.30 | cardamon | Give me a minute...there's a line of magic somewhere around to test if a terminal supports colors by printing them all. |
| 07:25.35 | somiaj | Whiskey: PS1='\[\033[01;33m\][\[\033[00;32m\]\u\[\033[00;31m\]@\h\[\033[01;37m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[01;33m\]]\[\033[00m\] ' -- that is my colored prompt |
| 07:26.00 | pmo | and then there is xterm 256colors |
| 07:26.15 | *** join/#debian user485763 (~aoeu@220.90.190.114) |
| 07:26.22 | cardamon | I also use most as my pager for colors. |
| 07:26.32 | *** join/#debian lalala222 (~root@114.199.73.117) |
| 07:26.47 | Whiskey | Have no damn clue what that is anyways i ttry use this one. http://jbsteiner.com/article/enabling-colorful-bash-debian-squeeze |
| 07:27.14 | somiaj | Whiskey: type -- export PS1='\[\033[01;33m\][\[\033[00;32m\]\u\[\033[00;31m\]@\h\[\033[01;37m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[01;33m\]]\[\033[00m\] ' |
| 07:27.19 | somiaj | Whiskey: does that command give you the color you want? |
| 07:27.49 | otend | not much of anything. created an account for remote users. if it's relevant, it's for a seedbox/SFTP server |
| 07:27.49 | otend | also, I have no idea what error it is |
| 07:27.50 | otend | it just opens and closes |
| 07:27.50 | otend | also, if it's relevant, the wm I'm using is awesome. I doubt the others would fare any better, as they have failed in previous tests. |
| 07:27.50 | otend | (including LXDE) |
| 07:27.50 | *** kick/#debian [otend!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 07:28.26 | Whiskey | aaa :) |
| 07:28.37 | Whiskey | somiaj: that style is uggly as hell :) |
| 07:28.38 | *** join/#debian Cavedude_ (~quassel@cpc11-finc13-2-0-cust520.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:28.43 | Whiskey | thx anyways :;D |
| 07:28.52 | somiaj | Whiskey: I like it, but you can play with them, find one you like |
| 07:29.04 | *** join/#debian otend (~otend@c-69-242-188-14.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 07:29.06 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 07:29.10 | Whiskey | yeh i just use to one :) |
| 07:29.15 | otend | err |
| 07:29.22 | otend | that flood was not supposed to happen |
| 07:29.25 | pmo | otend, so you can login over sftp but not ssh? |
| 07:29.33 | otend | internet's not liking me |
| 07:29.34 | *** join/#debian PhilSliderS (~kvirc@2a01:e35:2f26:89b0:5199:b3ce:13bf:252a) |
| 07:29.37 | cardamon | http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6533/print-all-256-colors-for-testing-term-or-for-a-quick-reference This method uses ncurses, so it will have to be installed. If you do get colors, after that it's all about how your environmental variables are set in bash and how programs like vi and your pager are configured. |
| 07:30.20 | otend | let's try ssh; added him to the ssh group |
| 07:30.25 | pmo | have you installed sshd? have you opened the port? |
| 07:30.28 | otend | >This account is currently not available |
| 07:30.33 | otend | >Connection to 10.0.0.211 closed |
| 07:30.42 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 07:30.46 | pmo | is sshd installed? |
| 07:30.55 | pmo | also dont add him to groups |
| 07:31.04 | pmo | his user itself will let him ssh in |
| 07:31.04 | otend | yes |
| 07:31.06 | otend | I can access it with the root and my own admin account |
| 07:31.07 | otend | s |
| 07:31.07 | otend | one moment |
| 07:32.18 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 07:33.43 | *** join/#debian Anticom (~Anticom@p54934326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:34.42 | *** join/#debian WaqarAzeem (~waqarazee@125.209.101.206) |
| 07:36.00 | *** join/#debian jargon (~dayo@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 07:37.40 | Whiskey | export PS1="'\[\033[01;33m\][\[\033[00;32m\]\u\[\033[00;31m\]@\h\[\033[01;37m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[01;33m\]]\[\033[00m\] '" with "PS1=\u@\h \W \$ " <-- why does this not work |
| 07:37.52 | Whiskey | it change the style but not whit any colors |
| 07:38.27 | somiaj | Whiskey: re export it and put quotes around your thing |
| 07:38.43 | Whiskey | qoutes around where? |
| 07:38.49 | somiaj | Whiskey: export PS1="\u@\h \W \$ " |
| 07:39.11 | somiaj | Whiskey: you most likely just had your quotes in the wrong place |
| 07:39.37 | Whiskey | :/ |
| 07:39.37 | Whiskey | don´t get it |
| 07:40.09 | somiaj | worked for me, I just copied that line |
| 07:41.24 | *** join/#debian |BND|loony (~xmasloony@p508897A5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:42.01 | *** join/#debian monsterloony (~xmasloony@p508897A5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:42.50 | *** part/#debian Xab (~Xabster@188.114.146.35) |
| 07:43.12 | *** join/#debian caf (caf@bitchx/dev/caf) |
| 07:43.18 | Whiskey | not whit colors for me |
| 07:44.06 | somiaj | Whiskey: that is because you didn't define any colors |
| 07:44.32 | somiaj | the colors are set with escape sequences they look like that '\[\033[01;33m |
| 07:44.36 | *** part/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 07:44.46 | somiaj | didn't you see the difference in the extra 'noise' in the one with colors vs without colors, that noise are the esacpe sequences |
| 07:44.48 | Whiskey | you don´t get it |
| 07:45.01 | Whiskey | export PS1="'\[\033[01;33m\][\[\033[00;32m\]\u\[\033[00;31m\]@\h\[\033[01;37m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[01;33m\]]\[\033[00m\] '" with "PS1=\u@\h \W \$ " <-- does not work whit colors |
| 07:45.07 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 07:45.10 | Whiskey | you need to export everything in same hmm |
| 07:45.23 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@216.Red-83-40-29.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:45.28 | somiaj | you are giving me multiple info, which are you using |
| 07:45.46 | somiaj | it is, export PS1='\[\033[01;33m\][\[\033[00;32m\]\u\[\033[00;31m\]@\h\[\033[01;37m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[01;33m\]]\[\033[00m\] ' |
| 07:45.57 | somiaj | if your term supports colors, you added extra quotes which can mess with things. |
| 07:47.39 | Whiskey | somiaj: export PS1='\[\033[01;33m\][\[\033[00;32m\]\u\[\033[00;31m\]@\h\[\033[01;37m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[01;33m\]]\[\033[00m\] with PS1=\u@\h \W \$ ' thats what i try |
| 07:47.44 | Whiskey | why do you remove the last part all the time |
| 07:50.55 | bniels | because the "with ..." part doesn't make sense |
| 07:51.22 | somiaj | I gave you the exact command |
| 07:51.29 | somiaj | why do you kep adding stuff? |
| 07:52.18 | *** join/#debian Sean-Der (~sean@108-245-5-17.lightspeed.toldoh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:52.57 | Sean-Der | What are the correct entries in GRUB2 for FreeBSD? No matter what I add to my 40_custom I can't get it to boot |
| 07:53.47 | *** join/#debian bsdgeek (~bsdgeek@91-66-20-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 07:54.48 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@net241-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 07:54.54 | *** join/#debian digdilem_ (~digdilem_@work.mareandfoal.org) |
| 07:56.43 | *** join/#debian prooz (prooz@eddie.slaskete.net) |
| 07:58.09 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-8-177.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 08:00.22 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 08:00.33 | *** join/#debian ninjak (~ninjak@77.239.137.142) |
| 08:03.56 | *** join/#debian sooraj1 (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 08:04.52 | *** join/#debian sarkis (~sarkis@unaffiliated/sako) |
| 08:05.34 | *** join/#debian nagarkot (~nagarkot_@224.49.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 08:06.03 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host217-154-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:06.14 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 08:08.46 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 08:13.26 | *** join/#debian finkata (~finkata@77.85.249.254) |
| 08:14.13 | *** join/#debian Mission-Critical (~MissionCr@unaffiliated/missioncritical) |
| 08:14.33 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 08:14.50 | *** join/#debian otend (~otend@c-69-242-188-14.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 08:15.59 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@artis2.probesys.com) |
| 08:16.06 | *** join/#debian bfit (~bfit@84.201.31.109) |
| 08:16.31 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 08:17.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1188] by debhelper |
| 08:18.29 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~smuxi@chello213047121188.26.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 08:19.11 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 08:19.47 | *** join/#debian z_marco (marco@nat/ibm/x-jwycxqfjktydolfm) |
| 08:22.04 | *** join/#debian sarkis (~sarkis@unaffiliated/sako) |
| 08:22.13 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 08:23.09 | *** join/#debian marco (marco@nat/ibm/x-ljoeyydcvmajauhg) |
| 08:25.27 | *** join/#debian confused (d4ae387e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.174.56.126) |
| 08:25.46 | confused | how i can i assign subnetwork to my debian guest in virtualbox |
| 08:26.57 | *** join/#debian z_marco (marco@nat/ibm/x-zrsekeumoknbvric) |
| 08:28.15 | *** join/#debian iDrac (~martin@2001:7d0:3002:1:21f:f3ff:fe51:5559) |
| 08:29.23 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 08:29.45 | sarkis | hey guys, is it possible to add an apt repo using reprepro from the same server? |
| 08:29.57 | sarkis | would i just point it to localhost? |
| 08:30.16 | *** join/#debian OsteHovel (~OsteHovel@57.204.9.46.customer.cdi.no) |
| 08:31.18 | *** join/#debian goacid (~Goacid@2a01:e35:2431:1c0:17c:e12c:bf7a:4aec) |
| 08:33.33 | henry_IT | where i can download realtek driver built in lan card |
| 08:33.53 | bniels | confused, what do you mean "subnetwork"? |
| 08:34.22 | OsteHovel | henry_IT: Does it work at all and you just need the firmware or is it not claimed by any module? |
| 08:34.54 | confused | bniels: i have a windows host machine with two network card. and i have a debian guest. i want to give internet to my debian |
| 08:35.08 | *** join/#debian ozux (~ozux@77.238.59.39) |
| 08:35.31 | confused | bniels: i use bridge adaptor. os i will assign subnetwork settings but i could not do that |
| 08:36.03 | bniels | confused, the most simple way is to use a NAT type network |
| 08:36.11 | *** part/#debian b_jonas (~x@russell2.math.bme.hu) |
| 08:36.34 | bniels | confused, in the virtualbox settings, that is. and assing it to the NIC that has internet connection on your host |
| 08:37.06 | henry_IT | its working but when ever i always restart im using ifup eth again |
| 08:38.25 | OsteHovel | henry_IT: Is it ok if i PM you? |
| 08:39.11 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 08:39.19 | henry_IT | sure |
| 08:39.19 | *** join/#debian fen (~e@p57B40673.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:39.32 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-4d038bd6.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:41.32 | confused | bniels: i know but i have a wired connection nat is not worked for me. |
| 08:41.35 | *** join/#debian FnorZ (~cthulhu@unaffiliated/fnorz) |
| 08:41.52 | confused | so i will assign 192 168 1 .x ip for subnetworking |
| 08:42.50 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 08:43.24 | bniels | confused, no, you should use DHCP on the guest. especially with NAT type. with bridged type, it depends on how your host receives its IP. if it gets it through DHCP, use DHCP on the guest as well. if it's static, just assign a new unused static IP on the guest |
| 08:44.39 | confused | it is static ip . |
| 08:45.00 | bniels | confused, well, then just assign a new IP that is in the same subnet as the host |
| 08:45.20 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boudiccas@unaffiliated/boudiccas) |
| 08:46.09 | bniels | confused, you will also have to make sure that there is a default route (by using a gateway line in /etc/network/interfaces, for instance) |
| 08:46.35 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@cpe-184-153-69-193.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 08:46.36 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@fedora/DemonJester) |
| 08:47.13 | bniels | confused, and of course your resolv.conf must point to a valid DNS server |
| 08:47.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1195] by debhelper |
| 08:47.26 | *** join/#debian Anurag_ (~Anurag@117.200.145.255) |
| 08:47.46 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@host15-100-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:47.59 | fen | oh btw. dhcp... is there a debian-router-distribution like dd-wrt but for x86? |
| 08:48.39 | *** join/#debian omid8bimo (~omid@unaffiliated/omid8bimo) |
| 08:49.22 | *** join/#debian beerbro (~gustav@mineralwasser.jesus.si) |
| 08:50.41 | *** join/#debian aswen (~aswen@smtp3.nedap.com) |
| 08:51.01 | *** join/#debian Moviuro (~quassel@gav28-1-88-177-116-29.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:51.41 | *** join/#debian malanik_jan_gmai (~honza.mal@cl-487.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net) |
| 08:52.53 | OsteHovel | fen: If you like to setup things manually you can use dnsmasq for DNS & DHCP and iptables for the NAT and firewall part |
| 08:56.11 | *** join/#debian tuuket (tuuket@varis.damicon.fi) |
| 08:56.49 | *** join/#debian sv0 (~sv@194.146.137.42) |
| 08:56.57 | *** join/#debian evilman_home (kvirc@2.93.212.105) |
| 08:57.15 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1202] by debhelper |
| 09:00.34 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 09:00.42 | *** join/#debian martxel (~martxel@187.85-86-50.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 09:01.55 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:03.25 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@business-092-079-178-083.static.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:05.51 | *** join/#debian Asenar (~Asenar@212-198-253-112.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 09:06.30 | *** join/#debian brong (~brong@CPE-124-189-176-117.cxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au) |
| 09:07.51 | OsteHovel | I have 2 DSL lines that i want to load balance over, and when i try "ip route add default scope global nexthop via $P1 dev $IF1 weight 1 nexthop via $P2 dev $IF2 weight 1" it works, but it drops all long living outgoing connection approx every 10-15minutes |
| 09:08.11 | OsteHovel | Incomming connections works perfectly and gets handled correctly |
| 09:08.41 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 09:09.10 | *** join/#debian Goggy (~Goggy@c-82-150-208-67.dsl.hotze.com) |
| 09:11.18 | OsteHovel | Someone know how to "fix" or how to avoid the dropping of the long-living outbound connections, i have a feeling that it might be some cache that might be too small or short? |
| 09:12.49 | gnarface | OsteHovel: hmm. way over my head; i'm not sure your traffic can be trusted to keep flowing through the same gateway. they're not bonded links right? so traffic to one needs to return from that one, or the client will never see it. this is not a safe assumption by default in linux. i think you want to use iproute2 or something like that instead... i vaguely recall seeing a howto i only sortof understood conceptually |
| 09:13.55 | *** join/#debian sary (~2084@pdpc/supporter/student/sary) |
| 09:14.01 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@82-68-174-118.in-addr.centralnic.net) |
| 09:15.40 | OsteHovel | gnarface: Yapp, its no bounding links, so if connection was established over eth0 the packages always need to be sent on eth0 ;-) |
| 09:16.29 | *** part/#debian PerfDave (~grimoire@fsf/member/perfdave) |
| 09:16.34 | OsteHovel | But its only long-lived connections that is the problem(they just disconnect after >10min) |
| 09:16.35 | gnarface | OsteHovel: yea, to the best of my understanding that doesn't happen by default; the kernel will send them back on any interface that can establish a connection back to the client, even if the client then just ignores half the tcp/ip session |
| 09:17.20 | fen | OsteHovel: i prefer a "fire-and-forget"-solution. it should be just a temporary router in a vm/chroot. i will have to shutdown my normal dhcp and just need a dhcp/gateway-router/tftp-server temorarily |
| 09:17.35 | gnarface | OsteHovel: so my theory here is that you're lucky enough to have most traffic return on the first interface, but occasionally when there is a big stream of data it will try to divvy up the load, but the client only is recognizing responses from the original ip it contacted |
| 09:18.18 | gnarface | OsteHovel: to test this theory you could use tcpdump to see if packet fragments meant for the client are getting lost on the other interface |
| 09:19.03 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@82-68-174-118.in-addr.centralnic.net) |
| 09:19.38 | fen | maybe with a web-configuration and very few space... thats why i mentioned dd-wrt |
| 09:19.38 | *** join/#debian Rix (~rix@unaffiliated/rix) |
| 09:19.51 | gnarface | OsteHovel: the only other time i've seen this behavior it had nothing to do with dual-uplink routing issues; it was merely a dumb/misconfigured firewall that wasn't tracking existing connections properly |
| 09:20.35 | OsteHovel | I belive its thats the problem its like its forgetting the old connections |
| 09:21.07 | *** join/#debian Pacma (~Pacma@81.184.155.178.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 09:22.09 | HardDisk_WP | hey |
| 09:22.12 | fen | a few years ago i had tested a debian-based solution for a router. but i cant remember the name for the distribution |
| 09:22.21 | *** join/#debian JoeAngel_ (~JoeAngel_@114-25-28-109.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 09:22.43 | *** join/#debian dobalina (~dobalina@ANantes-259-1-236-10.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:22.44 | HardDisk_WP | using sed s/$foo/$bar/ /etc/conffile I can easily replace single-line stuff in conffiles |
| 09:22.56 | HardDisk_WP | but how do I do this when $bar is a multi-line string? |
| 09:23.06 | fen | and iirc it was a commercial-test-version... now i prefer something without license-keys |
| 09:23.21 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@213.177.160.238) |
| 09:24.03 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@82-68-174-118.in-addr.centralnic.net) |
| 09:25.11 | *** join/#debian Oste (~OsteHovel@4.96.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 09:27.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1209] by debhelper |
| 09:28.07 | OsteHovel | Hihi, now im load balancing 3 MiB/s ;-) |
| 09:28.52 | *** join/#debian BobbyJr (~BobbyJr@robsworld.plus.com) |
| 09:29.06 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@82-68-174-118.in-addr.centralnic.net) |
| 09:30.44 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 09:32.30 | OsteHovel | . |
| 09:32.32 | *** join/#debian matlads (~Adium@195.171.24.49) |
| 09:34.11 | *** join/#debian d_arcy (~Day_dream@145.229.185.80.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:34.18 | *** part/#debian matlads (~Adium@195.171.24.49) |
| 09:34.18 | OsteHovel | Now im capturing data to the IRC server ip on both interfaces so when this connection drops maybe we can dig out som results |
| 09:34.29 | *** join/#debian slugger (~slugger@2604:180::f482:9c24) |
| 09:36.00 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 09:36.12 | *** join/#debian Oste (~OsteHovel@197.48.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 09:36.41 | OsteHovel | Japp, it died |
| 09:36.50 | OsteHovel | It started sending out packets on the wrong interface |
| 09:36.52 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.13) |
| 09:37.23 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@177.18.197.127) |
| 09:38.08 | *** join/#debian slugga (~slugga@2604:180::f482:9c24) |
| 09:38.57 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki (~quassel@62-50-207-87.client.stsn.net) |
| 09:39.01 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki_ (~quassel@62-50-207-87.client.stsn.net) |
| 09:39.38 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 09:40.45 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 09:40.47 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 09:40.53 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@77-255-30-18.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 09:41.30 | *** join/#debian arietis (~arietis@188.242.181.162) |
| 09:43.15 | *** join/#debian dsirijus (~dsirijus@dh207-19-24.xnet.hr) |
| 09:45.01 | *** join/#debian cYrilD (~cYrilD@lvs-gateway1.teclib.net) |
| 09:46.19 | gnarface | OsteHovel: well that suggests my hypothesis may be correct. unfortunately that doesn't mean i can help you fix it. but i think the term you want to google is "multipath routing" or "equal cost multipath routing" |
| 09:46.26 | gnarface | also maybe "in linux" |
| 09:47.15 | *** part/#debian Moviuro (~quassel@gav28-1-88-177-116-29.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:47.25 | *** join/#debian FloJpg (~fpougheon@68.143.64.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:47.48 | *** join/#debian OsteHovel (~OsteHovel@197.48.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 09:48.11 | OsteHovel | ;-) |
| 09:49.07 | fen | ok i should not limit my search for a router-distribution to debian. where shoud i ask or search? in #linux? |
| 09:51.27 | gnarface | fen: this is a debian support channel. we don't know |
| 09:52.17 | gnarface | fen: if it weren't a debian support channel, i might go so far as to suggest that if debian isn't a "router-distribution" than nothing is, and maybe you should consider OpenBSD isntead (packetfilter rulez!) |
| 09:52.29 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 09:52.52 | OsteHovel | After 10 min it sends out packages on the other interface (eth1) using eth2 IP, the connection was orginaly using eth2, and the irc server is sending out retramissions on eth2 while my NAT box is sending out on eth1, no worries why does work, but i will try to search on google gnarface, its not every day you play with stuff like this |
| 09:53.07 | fen | ;-) i know. i would point myself to duckduckgo, too ;-) |
| 09:53.20 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 09:53.42 | gnarface | OsteHovel: i *know* for a fact it can be done. but you're right, almost nobody ever bothers. usually people just make the primary connection bigger. |
| 09:54.19 | gnarface | OsteHovel: if it were common place it would be easier to find the docs, but i know that its been done |
| 09:54.24 | HardDisk_WP | in config files, I have the format "# BEGIN DYNAMIC BLOCK\n (content)\n# END DYNAMIC BLOCK\n" |
| 09:54.52 | HardDisk_WP | how do I, using bash, replace the stuff inside this block, and if the block isn't there yet, create it? |
| 09:55.22 | gnarface | HardDisk_WP: *that* is a bash question. ask in #bash |
| 09:55.29 | HardDisk_WP | kk |
| 09:55.56 | gnarface | its a good bash question though |
| 09:56.21 | gnarface | there is no shame in cheating and using perl instead |
| 09:56.29 | gnarface | unless this is for a package |
| 09:56.58 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 09:56.59 | bniels | or awk. the problem sounds simple enough for that one, too |
| 09:57.10 | gnarface | well if you do it in bash basically you're doing it with awk |
| 09:57.18 | gnarface | (or sed or grep) |
| 09:57.24 | gnarface | or if you feel fancy use all three |
| 09:57.37 | gnarface | i like to throw in netcat just for fun |
| 09:58.46 | bniels | can be done in dash/bash/*sh without grep, awk, and sed, too. but anyway, it's still off-topic ;) |
| 09:59.02 | HardDisk_WP | it's in the postinstall script invoked by late_command in debian preseed, so I'm a bit restricted |
| 09:59.09 | gnarface | ah yes |
| 09:59.33 | gnarface | you could try the other one |
| 09:59.37 | gnarface | what is it called... quilt i think? |
| 09:59.53 | gnarface | maybe that's just for patches |
| 10:00.23 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 10:00.33 | gnarface | never had to do it |
| 10:00.51 | OsteHovel | gnarface: Yea, only reason why i do it is becouse i get the 2nd line in here at home for free, seems like i found some sysctl settings about route cache |
| 10:01.50 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin1 (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 10:02.00 | gnarface | OsteHovel: i do recall reading something about the point being to set up separate routing tables for each device or something like that |
| 10:04.01 | gnarface | OsteHovel: but check out iproute2 i was under the impression that tool would make it easier |
| 10:05.01 | *** join/#debian aquila (~aquila@91.231.120.195) |
| 10:05.21 | bniels | gnarface, he's already using that. the "ip" command is iproute2 |
| 10:05.27 | gnarface | oh, my bad |
| 10:05.41 | *** part/#debian aquila (~aquila@91.231.120.195) |
| 10:07.55 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 10:08.27 | *** join/#debian talsamon (~talsamon@178-190-79-102.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 10:09.42 | OsteHovel | Problem is/was with the Linux Kernel IPv4 Cache |
| 10:09.56 | OsteHovel | Now i have increased the numbers so i will see how long i will stay here |
| 10:10.17 | OsteHovel | I might have increased them abit over what normal, and i dont need fallover so i sat the expire time at 30days |
| 10:11.38 | *** join/#debian ikla (~lbz@c-71-196-252-82.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 10:12.19 | *** join/#debian anurag (~Anurag@117.212.224.215) |
| 10:13.51 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 10:14.06 | *** join/#debian brontosaurusrex (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/brontosaurusrex) |
| 10:16.03 | *** join/#debian pool (~chatzilla@2001:250:1006:6181:230:67ff:fea9:30b5) |
| 10:16.08 | *** join/#debian mi (~mi@unaffiliated/mi) |
| 10:16.42 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar (~kvirc@93-136-26-32.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 10:17.09 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@97-113-115-104.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 10:17.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1216] by debhelper |
| 10:17.20 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@2001:b18:4045::1) |
| 10:20.12 | *** join/#debian Anurag_ (~Anurag@117.200.152.84) |
| 10:20.22 | *** join/#debian mrhanky (mrhanky@2a00:1a28:1251:46:246:93:116:1) |
| 10:20.29 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 10:21.27 | *** join/#debian Anticom2 (~Anticom@p549343BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:22.33 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@mna75-11-88-161-199-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:22.40 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFFC83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:23.19 | *** part/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 10:23.50 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 10:24.29 | *** join/#debian slugga (~slugga@2604:180::f482:9c24) |
| 10:24.37 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@unaffiliated/gnugr) |
| 10:24.47 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.105.187.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 10:25.47 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 10:28.23 | *** join/#debian dido (~dido@203.215.122.157) |
| 10:28.55 | *** part/#debian confused (d4ae387e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.174.56.126) |
| 10:29.32 | *** join/#debian mayak (~mayak@193.93.66.226) |
| 10:29.51 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~furry4lif@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 10:31.10 | *** join/#debian h (~slugga@2604:180::f482:9c24) |
| 10:31.11 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 10:31.29 | *** join/#debian shomon (3e6169d9@lorea/gardener/cooperativa.ecoxarxes.cat) |
| 10:32.01 | shomon | hi, I'd like to install debian but have no cds around until the afternoon... can I do an install directly from within windows? |
| 10:32.08 | shomon | I have to leave this windows partition in the pooter |
| 10:32.10 | *** join/#debian sirToast (toast@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-zsbzjklehqfqprex) |
| 10:32.10 | *** join/#debian k-t_ (~kt@p5DE8731F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:32.39 | *** join/#debian gino (~gino@host210-127-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:32.44 | x42 | shomon: you can install debian using an usb stick |
| 10:32.44 | *** part/#debian gino (~gino@host210-127-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:32.56 | shomon | I've got one.. that'd be great |
| 10:33.02 | pmo | shomon dont you have an isp stick? |
| 10:33.06 | pmo | ah he already asked |
| 10:33.10 | shomon | but I'd have to burn an iso to it.. can I do a netinstall? |
| 10:33.16 | pmo | usb + netinstaller is a pretty nice choice |
| 10:33.17 | shomon | http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ is that site still good for example? |
| 10:33.38 | gnarface | shomon: not made here |
| 10:33.53 | gnarface | shomon: if it works for you i'd be curious to hear though |
| 10:34.22 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-129-163.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 10:34.27 | *** join/#debian blue_sky (~justin@163.178.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 10:34.32 | shomon | soo in general is it desirable to install debian by downloading it then burning it / copying it to usb or cd |
| 10:34.34 | shomon | ? |
| 10:34.35 | gnarface | shomon: to be clear; that is not an official part of debian and therefore not supported. its NOT the debian installer its someone's clever hack and it probably works very well but the official way would be to burn an iso to a usb key |
| 10:34.44 | shomon | okay |
| 10:34.47 | shomon | thanks |
| 10:34.50 | pmo | shomon, easy one is unetbootin |
| 10:35.21 | gnarface | i just use dd |
| 10:35.22 | fen | right unetbootin. if it exist for windows |
| 10:35.25 | pmo | i think unetbootin does include the debian netinstaller too |
| 10:35.31 | pmo | gnarface, on windows? |
| 10:35.34 | shomon | I'm on windows now.. I think I should be able to burn it from their own interface |
| 10:35.34 | gnarface | pmo: no |
| 10:35.41 | pmo | he is on windows :P |
| 10:35.45 | pmo | afaik |
| 10:35.45 | shomon | yeah :S |
| 10:35.57 | gnarface | got two usb keys? |
| 10:36.04 | shomon | no, just the one |
| 10:36.09 | pmo | shomon, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:36.12 | ksk | there is unetbootin for windows, yes. |
| 10:36.19 | blue_sky | cfdisk tells me "bad primary partition" but my install is fine, should I be using something else on big disks? |
| 10:36.26 | shomon | thanks pmo |
| 10:36.36 | pmo | one usb over 200mb should do for netinstaller |
| 10:36.53 | fen | i remember ubuntu had something to install in a loop-file on the ntfs-partition from windows itself. maybe this exist for debian, too? |
| 10:36.55 | *** join/#debian stlifey (~stlifey@125.89.69.219) |
| 10:36.56 | shomon | I'm doing this because richard stallman said ubuntu is now a no-no btw |
| 10:37.07 | gnarface | good for you |
| 10:37.10 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@212-178-1-233.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) |
| 10:37.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1227] by debhelper |
| 10:37.35 | pmo | shomon, no need to listen to him, you can just disable that one function |
| 10:37.53 | gnarface | didn't need richard stallman to know ubuntu is evil |
| 10:38.09 | shomon | yeah well that and unity |
| 10:38.10 | pmo | he started doing that once everyone knew hehe |
| 10:38.18 | ikla | every distro is evil |
| 10:38.19 | sirToast | I never used ubuntu but what's wrong with it? |
| 10:38.24 | ikla | linux is fucking evil |
| 10:38.27 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@188.244.144.11) |
| 10:38.34 | shomon | well I knew but I'm not ready for tails or anything yet |
| 10:38.44 | x42 | linux is from hell <3 |
| 10:38.46 | b0lt | don't do things because "X said so". do things because "someone said so, and I find the reasons stated for this convincing" |
| 10:38.47 | pmo | shomon, btw when you use unetbootin you dont need to download an debian iso |
| 10:38.49 | pmo | its linked |
| 10:38.55 | pmo | btw you should use testing |
| 10:39.00 | pmo | you will hate stable |
| 10:39.16 | shomon | b0lt: that was the case.. He wrote, I agreed, I thought new year, new distro :) |
| 10:39.27 | x42 | which kernel ist in stable? |
| 10:39.34 | gnarface | sirToast: the primary important difference that matters (the one that causes all the important problems in ubuntu) is that its run by a for-profit company, unlike debian and apache for example, which are owned by non-profit legal entities |
| 10:39.35 | shomon | ok thanks for the tip |
| 10:39.42 | gnarface | sirToast: oh and mozilla too |
| 10:39.45 | fen | and then there is a option in the windows-bootmanager to boot linux from that loop-file on the ntfs. goal is, to not needed to repartition when just trying native linux |
| 10:39.57 | shomon | does google contribute to any of those though gnarface ? |
| 10:40.00 | pmo | well debian stable is more for server and such.. for a desktop most will complain about old stuff |
| 10:40.18 | x42 | ack pmo |
| 10:40.18 | ikla | centos is for server |
| 10:40.18 | ikla | :p |
| 10:40.44 | pmo | i use debian stable for server, its better |
| 10:40.45 | x42 | i friend of my switch from debian to centos |
| 10:40.53 | x42 | less updates |
| 10:40.58 | pmo | lol |
| 10:41.06 | gnarface | shomon: well they're entirely a for-profit company, and they do offer some linux stuff (like google earth and such) but for the most part none of their shit is even open source, so... no. |
| 10:41.08 | mayak | i switched from centos to debian because centos dropped i386 |
| 10:41.09 | *** join/#debian bofur (~bofur@37-251-120-199.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 10:41.09 | b0lt | use OS2. no updates. |
| 10:41.23 | ikla | centos is great for server I'll take it over debian any for that purpose |
| 10:41.24 | shomon | I mean cold hard cash |
| 10:41.31 | gnarface | shomon: all google opens really is their api. they're more like facebook, but with an excuse to exist. |
| 10:41.45 | pmo | ikla, your loss :) |
| 10:41.49 | shomon | api = free beer |
| 10:41.50 | fen | mayak: linux will drop i386 soon |
| 10:41.53 | ikla | pmo, really? |
| 10:41.57 | pmo | yup |
| 10:42.01 | gnarface | shomon: oh, yea i think google still gives a ton of cash to mozilla |
| 10:42.05 | ikla | explain |
| 10:42.06 | ikla | please |
| 10:42.14 | pmo | do i really have to? |
| 10:42.15 | gnarface | shomon: but who knows how long that will last now that they have chrome |
| 10:42.18 | ikla | pmo, you sure do |
| 10:42.32 | shomon | yeah I worry a bit about mozilla's future then |
| 10:42.32 | pmo | explain me why centos is better and i will |
| 10:42.42 | gnarface | someone else will pick it up |
| 10:42.48 | gnarface | its a scientific non-profit |
| 10:42.53 | gnarface | its a tax writeoff to give cash to it |
| 10:43.01 | ikla | pmo, "your loss" I think you should back that up |
| 10:43.02 | mayak | fen: yes i know |
| 10:43.06 | ikla | or is it just fanboyism? |
| 10:43.22 | gnarface | shomon: i've never had so much cash that i had the problem that i had to give some of it away at the end of every year to keep from losing it, but some companies do have that problem |
| 10:43.27 | mayak | fen: my cpu also supports i486 :) |
| 10:43.35 | mayak | but centos6 does not anymore |
| 10:43.37 | pmo | what i personally dont like about centos, is that i have to add 3rd party repo's.. and that they want you to do a reinstall everytime a new release is out etc |
| 10:44.01 | pmo | you can ignore it, and b0rk your server and try and fix it tho |
| 10:44.04 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~i@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 10:44.05 | shomon | yeah academic uk projects used to be into splashing out cash at the end of each year... anyway sorry ot |
| 10:44.33 | fen | yea.. theoretically i still have an i368sx here... but i would never try to run a 3.8-kernel on it ^^ |
| 10:44.47 | blue_sky | my /etc/fstab doesn't look like I'm used to, it's got: # /home was on /dev/... \n UUID=[lots of hex] /home? is stable using LVM? |
| 10:44.49 | pmo | debian stable doesnt have this lack of packages.. and upgrading is smooth |
| 10:44.57 | pmo | so why do you like centos better ikla ? |
| 10:45.01 | pmo | fanboyism? |
| 10:45.09 | ikla | pmo, pretty much every package you need comes with centos unless your running some crazed desktop environment |
| 10:45.17 | pmo | nope |
| 10:45.19 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 10:45.28 | mayak | fen: my firewall is running with a i386/i486 - it has an AMD Geode CPU |
| 10:45.30 | pmo | i dont run a wm on a server |
| 10:45.33 | ikla | which 3rd party apps do you need? |
| 10:45.40 | pmo | too many to list |
| 10:45.48 | pmo | but you never explained it to me |
| 10:45.54 | nevyn | just try and install ruby anything. |
| 10:45.55 | gnarface | casually points at #debian-offtopic |
| 10:46.05 | mayak | fen: 500 MHz - power consumption of about 3 watt (whole system with 3 NICs) |
| 10:46.05 | ikla | 2nd how can you not update to new releases? |
| 10:46.05 | fen | ^^ |
| 10:46.06 | pmo | yea i was thinking that too gnarface |
| 10:46.15 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~kot@lopsa/member/project2501a) |
| 10:46.34 | mayak | fen: this is the system: http://pcengines.ch/ |
| 10:46.49 | mayak | the perfect embedded board |
| 10:46.56 | *** join/#debian hirogen (d03317c3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.51.23.195) |
| 10:47.08 | mayak | and it runs perfectly with Debian Wheezy |
| 10:47.10 | *** join/#debian EyesIsMine (~EyesIsMin@WiseOS/Founder/EyesIsMine) |
| 10:48.07 | ikla | mayak, those are nice, but I run bsd based os on mine, debian does work too |
| 10:48.16 | x42 | oooh ruby :/ |
| 10:48.26 | mayak | ikla: sounds nice! |
| 10:48.27 | OsteHovel | My worst server is Intel Penitum 3 500mhz with SCSI disks runs Debian just fine ;-) |
| 10:48.27 | x42 | do i still need rvm for that? |
| 10:48.45 | mayak | ikla: i recently read a very sad article about bsd :( |
| 10:48.50 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@81-65-188-227.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:49.07 | ikla | pmo, so more packages and you need to reinstall everytime a new release comes out? |
| 10:49.15 | ikla | is that all? |
| 10:49.24 | *** join/#debian YWork (~YWork@D4B2924A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 10:49.24 | ikla | eh |
| 10:49.35 | ikla | mayak, which was |
| 10:50.00 | pmo | ikla, centos has less packages, and want you to format on big releases |
| 10:50.08 | mayak | ikla: http://lwn.net/Articles/524606/ |
| 10:50.09 | pmo | but yea debian offtopic |
| 10:50.16 | OsteHovel | Biggest reason for my change from Ubuntu to debian was that Ubuntu releases new "version" all the freaking time, annoying upgrading servers all the time ;-) |
| 10:50.17 | mayak | ikla: BRB. going for lunch |
| 10:50.36 | ikla | pmo, so your saying I can install every package from debian's repos? |
| 10:50.39 | x42 | when i activate ipv6 on my root server running current kvm - the vm hosts are not acccesible vie ipv4 anymore - i still can access the host via ipv4 (and ipv6) though. any suggestions why that happens? |
| 10:51.02 | pmo | ikla, #debian-offtopic, dont get kicked |
| 10:51.05 | x42 | thats why a frind of mine sitched from debian to centos ostehovel |
| 10:51.17 | ikla | how is this off topic? |
| 10:51.34 | gnarface | ikla: this is a support channel. |
| 10:51.48 | gnarface | ikla: #debian-offtopic is for discussion |
| 10:51.55 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-76-167.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 10:52.08 | ikla | gnarface, pmo is providing me support and teaching me why I'm losing out on debian |
| 10:52.24 | ikla | gnarface, just because another distro name pops up doesn't make it offtopic |
| 10:52.32 | gnarface | ikla: *i'm* not an op. its not *me* you'll have to make a case to |
| 10:52.46 | ikla | gnarface, I can care less |
| 10:52.57 | pmo | ikla, im not, you try and for me to |
| 10:53.09 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host242-193-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:53.18 | ikla | pmo, I'm wondering can I install every package from debian's repos? |
| 10:53.24 | ikla | on my system |
| 10:53.31 | pmo | on centos? no, get lost |
| 10:53.40 | OsteHovel | if you got the repo listed in /etc/apt/sources.list, then you can install all packages there |
| 10:53.41 | ikla | no on debian |
| 10:54.03 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~kot@lopsa/member/project2501a) |
| 10:54.19 | gnarface | ikla: is your question about whether the official repos contain all the official packages or not? |
| 10:54.32 | ikla | can I install every package from the official repos? |
| 10:54.41 | ikla | I know the answer |
| 10:54.42 | gnarface | ikla: or is your question whether it will fit on your harddrive? |
| 10:54.52 | ikla | my hard drive is 100TB |
| 10:54.55 | ikla | that's not my problem |
| 10:54.56 | ikla | :p |
| 10:55.02 | gnarface | what *is* your problem then? |
| 10:55.06 | gnarface | mabye you should be explicit |
| 10:55.25 | gnarface | and phrase it as "i am trying to do X' and when i do it i expect Y output and i got Z instead |
| 10:55.26 | ikla | can I install every package from debian's _official_ repos? |
| 10:55.49 | gnarface | you said you know the answer already |
| 10:55.55 | gnarface | so why are you asking? |
| 10:56.00 | OsteHovel | apt-get install * ;P |
| 10:56.11 | nkuttler | ikla: no |
| 10:56.15 | pool | #debian |
| 10:56.16 | ikla | thank you! |
| 10:56.16 | ikla | :) |
| 10:56.44 | ikla | nkuttler! |
| 10:56.55 | OsteHovel | Becouse some of the packages will conflict with eachother |
| 10:57.01 | ikla | exactly |
| 10:57.13 | ikla | pwo, so do you want to continue this? |
| 10:57.35 | gnarface | OsteHovel: ba-dun-ching! |
| 10:57.40 | gnarface | rimsnots |
| 10:57.44 | ikla | haha |
| 10:57.46 | Dagger2 | you should be able to install every package in the repos though |
| 10:57.53 | Dagger2 | what would the point be in having a package that can't be installed? |
| 10:58.18 | Dagger2 | ^ and that is why you need to be more specific in your question, rather than asking something that can be interpreted multiple ways |
| 10:58.32 | ikla | Dagger2, other distro you can install * |
| 10:58.41 | ikla | but they don't have a million packages in their repos |
| 10:58.42 | OsteHovel | But thats becouse some of the packages is contractionary of eachother |
| 10:58.42 | gnarface | ikla: what's the point, exactly? you're saying you don't like debian because some packages conflict with each other? that's your imperative, is to be able to install nonsensical and non-working combinations of software, or because you think package hierarchies should all be linear, because your'e a god damned idiot? |
| 10:59.07 | pmo | ikla> pwo, so do you want to continue this? |
| 10:59.24 | ikla | gnarface, no I like debian for certain things, I just wanted to hear from pwo why it was my loss using centos in a production environment over debian |
| 10:59.24 | pmo | lol i wanted to end this long ago, i personally dont like stupid people :) |
| 10:59.43 | ikla | stupid now |
| 10:59.45 | ikla | lol |
| 10:59.47 | Dagger2 | ikla: so? you asked if there were any packages that can't be installed, not "can I install all packages simultaneously with one single apt-get invocation" |
| 10:59.56 | pmo | stupid as you think all versions of packages |
| 11:00.10 | pmo | dont even know where you got that idea from |
| 11:00.17 | pmo | clearly dont know how linux works |
| 11:00.22 | pmo | *nix for that matter |
| 11:00.26 | Rienzilla | W 2 |
| 11:00.26 | ikla | how linux works now? |
| 11:00.29 | ikla | or *nix |
| 11:00.57 | pmo | anyways im ending this.. say what you like |
| 11:01.13 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 11:01.13 | OsteHovel | its no point having all packages on your pc when you can retrive the ones you want on-the-fly using apt-get |
| 11:02.26 | gnarface | ikla: pmo thinks its your loss not using centos in a production environment because you can install much less and get the work done much quicker, and its largely inherent to the package structure you seem to be also casually maligning. |
| 11:02.43 | gnarface | ikla: er, not using *debian* in a production env... i meant |
| 11:02.59 | *** join/#debian clopez (~clopez@3.236.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 11:03.04 | ikla | gnarface, since you have a million packages and 1/2 of them conflict makes it easier? |
| 11:03.11 | gnarface | ikla: damn straight it does |
| 11:03.17 | gnarface | ikla: you can install what you want |
| 11:03.23 | ikla | gnarface, and more commerical software vendors support rpm over everything? |
| 11:03.34 | gnarface | ikla: rather than having one big php mega package that has everything whether you like it or not |
| 11:03.43 | gnarface | ikla: ... and whether it even IS everything or not |
| 11:04.04 | gnarface | ikla: its just a different style |
| 11:04.24 | gnarface | ikla: it makes the interface more complex, but i guarantee it pays you back for that |
| 11:04.46 | gnarface | ikla: fuck commercial vendors |
| 11:04.51 | OsteHovel | If you only use mysql with PHP you dont need the psql extensions |
| 11:05.05 | gnarface | ikla: steam supports *.deb |
| 11:05.12 | *** join/#debian digdilem_ (~digdilem_@work.mareandfoal.org) |
| 11:05.31 | ikla | wow! |
| 11:05.39 | ikla | fuck commercial vendors |
| 11:05.40 | ikla | lol |
| 11:05.47 | gnarface | ikla: yea they don't do shit for me |
| 11:06.08 | *** join/#debian pawelkrzywicki (~quassel@62-50-207-87.client.stsn.net) |
| 11:06.10 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD60768.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:07.08 | ikla | gnarface, are they supposed to? |
| 11:07.13 | gnarface | ikla: you saying your centos server has SOOO much commercial software huh? i bet its real good too... |
| 11:07.33 | gnarface | has not seen an rpm-only commercial linux software release since quake3 in the tin box by loki |
| 11:07.48 | ikla | drivers? |
| 11:07.59 | gnarface | from intel? come in packages? |
| 11:08.03 | gnarface | since when? |
| 11:08.09 | gnarface | who cares, they're already in debian |
| 11:08.13 | ikla | intel is the only hardware vendor out there eh? |
| 11:08.17 | ikla | oh really? |
| 11:08.30 | gnarface | even NVIDIA drivers are *packaged* in debian |
| 11:08.34 | ikla | on the ancient kernel in the stable branch? |
| 11:08.35 | gnarface | they're just in non-free |
| 11:08.37 | gnarface | and not in the installer |
| 11:08.39 | ikla | supports on the new hardware |
| 11:08.40 | ikla | lol |
| 11:08.46 | gnarface | the kernel is a bit old |
| 11:08.49 | gnarface | but its a bit more stable |
| 11:08.53 | gnarface | so ... |
| 11:08.53 | ikla | more stable |
| 11:08.54 | gnarface | meh |
| 11:08.56 | ikla | really? |
| 11:09.04 | gnarface | yea |
| 11:09.06 | gnarface | really |
| 11:09.25 | gnarface | you can't just look at the version number and freak out foo, its not vanilla. its patched up |
| 11:09.28 | gnarface | they try hard |
| 11:09.32 | gnarface | its not a ghetto distro |
| 11:09.42 | OsteHovel | My P3 server running debian has NEVER crashed |
| 11:09.52 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 11:09.54 | ikla | obviously you haven't deployed many debian or centos installs |
| 11:10.08 | *** join/#debian ralkof (~ralkof@c-5f3ce155.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:10.16 | gnarface | i've gotten about .... 460-500 days out of most power supplies before a fan dies or something then heat becomes an issue... |
| 11:10.20 | *** join/#debian wrod (~wrodrigue@110.235.82.2) |
| 11:10.27 | ikla | wow |
| 11:10.37 | ikla | my i386 in my basement has been up for 600 days! |
| 11:10.41 | ikla | it's stable! |
| 11:10.44 | gnarface | nice |
| 11:10.45 | OsteHovel | ;-) |
| 11:10.46 | nkuttler | !ot |
| 11:10.47 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 11:11.19 | *** join/#debian gardar (~gardar@gardar.net) |
| 11:12.00 | ikla | and people wonder why the Linux community is so fscked! |
| 11:12.26 | blue_sky | Debian installer says 'partman: recommended partitioning tool in Debian', can't find partman on my system, apt-get says can't locate package, and a package search on debian.org says no packages! cfdisk says there's a problem with my disk - it doesn't like BSD style partitions? I'm outta ideas, what package do I need? |
| 11:12.45 | pmo | cuz of people on openbsd that defeat the purpose of running it by adding php to it, going to #debian to troll about centos? |
| 11:13.01 | ikla | pmo, you can do a /whois |
| 11:13.03 | ikla | wow! |
| 11:13.07 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 11:13.08 | pmo | whois? |
| 11:13.10 | pmo | no need |
| 11:13.12 | jackbrown | Does anyone knows in which folder MATE DE stores MENU Shortcurts ? |
| 11:13.16 | ikla | what does openbsd have to do with this now? |
| 11:13.17 | nkuttler | !ops ikla and pmo need a room |
| 11:13.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: nkuttler complains about: ikla and pmo need a room |
| 11:13.26 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~BOOYEA@5ED7BD2B.cm-7-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 11:13.27 | pmo | nkuttler, i dont need a room |
| 11:13.33 | gnarface | its just ikla |
| 11:13.33 | pmo | atleast not with him |
| 11:13.57 | OsteHovel | Comeone guys lets talk in #debian-offtopic |
| 11:14.29 | ikla | the purpose of openbsd now is to not use php |
| 11:14.30 | gnarface | he says he's looking for a fight but all he wants is attention or he wouldn't keep dragging out these half-assed strawman arguments |
| 11:14.40 | ikla | pmo, haha |
| 11:15.19 | ikla | gnarface, I asked a simple question to 'pmo' which you all turned in to a piss match |
| 11:15.36 | pmo | you asked a stupid question* |
| 11:15.44 | ikla | a stupid question? |
| 11:15.52 | gnarface | a loaded question |
| 11:15.56 | gnarface | that's all |
| 11:15.57 | ikla | you should scrollback |
| 11:16.01 | pmo | i did |
| 11:16.07 | ikla | "your loss" |
| 11:16.09 | *** join/#debian _InvalidHandle_ (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb8e-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 11:16.15 | pmo | yes your loss |
| 11:16.20 | pmo | do with it what you want |
| 11:16.20 | *** part/#debian ivank (~ikelly@ec2-54-247-85-211.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 11:16.22 | pmo | dont include me |
| 11:16.33 | pmo | also no need to annoy the channel |
| 11:16.41 | ikla | pmo, why do you keep talking then? |
| 11:17.03 | pmo | i know i shouldnt talk when idiots ask me stuff.. just hard sometimes |
| 11:18.10 | ikla | so now I'm an idiot? |
| 11:18.14 | ikla | haha |
| 11:18.28 | *** join/#debian moe94 (~chatzilla@178.61.231.90) |
| 11:18.30 | pmo | thats all of you, you have showed me |
| 11:18.32 | ikla | pmo, maybe you should do your homework first |
| 11:18.37 | pmo | no need |
| 11:18.41 | pmo | i ran centos myself |
| 11:19.15 | ikla | and do I care? |
| 11:19.18 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.65.242) |
| 11:19.20 | pmo | seems like |
| 11:19.31 | pmo | otherwise you wouldnt speak |
| 11:19.32 | *** join/#debian andreas-- (~andy@unaffiliated/slacky) |
| 11:19.33 | ikla | "your loss" and I said explain |
| 11:19.40 | ikla | that's it |
| 11:19.41 | pmo | i did and you couldnt handle it |
| 11:19.51 | babilen | pmo, ikla: Could you please move this off-topic chatter somewhere else? |
| 11:19.58 | *** part/#debian andreas-- (~andy@unaffiliated/slacky) |
| 11:20.02 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 11:20.21 | ikla | pmo, I couldn't handle it, I asked you a question and you disappeared for awhile searching Google |
| 11:20.23 | pmo | babilen, i have tried asking him, but as he states he doesnt care about what the ops say |
| 11:20.53 | babilen | There is /no/ point in pursuing this further in #debian -- Take it elsewhere if you want to. |
| 11:20.59 | babilen | last word |
| 11:21.35 | pmo | i personally want to be left alone :) |
| 11:21.54 | ikla | obviously not when you keep speaking :) |
| 11:22.07 | pmo | *yawn* |
| 11:22.09 | babilen | … |
| 11:22.49 | ikla | scratches his no-no spot |
| 11:23.02 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.107.101) |
| 11:23.03 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 11:23.37 | *** join/#debian JBzh (~bzh@ip-158.net-80-236-65.issy.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 11:23.41 | JBzh | Hi |
| 11:23.46 | *** join/#debian jayak (~jason@188-223-126-142.zone14.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:27.01 | *** join/#debian michaelni (~michael@chello080109127209.4.15.vie.surfer.at) |
| 11:27.16 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1233] by debhelper |
| 11:29.18 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@200.5.198.210) |
| 11:31.49 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-76-167.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:32.33 | *** join/#debian nodiscc1 (~baron@2a01:e35:8a51:79d0:9865:6cb3:ea89:8e26) |
| 11:34.14 | blue_sky | Debian installer says 'partman: recommended partitioning tool in Debian', can't find partman on my system, apt-get says can't locate package, and a package search on debian.org says no packages! what do I use to modify my partitions? |
| 11:34.22 | *** join/#debian ralkof (~ralkof@c-5f3ce155.141-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:34.32 | *** join/#debian Dext (gnu@unaffiliated/dext) |
| 11:34.32 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host218.181-14-255.telecom.net.ar) |
| 11:35.08 | *** join/#debian wermel (~wermel@adsl-ull-240-195.50-151.net24.it) |
| 11:35.46 | nkuttler | blue_sky: fdisk |
| 11:36.19 | nkuttler | ,v parman |
| 11:36.21 | judd | No package named 'parman' was found in i386. |
| 11:36.23 | nkuttler | ,v partman |
| 11:36.24 | judd | No package named 'partman' was found in i386. |
| 11:36.34 | nkuttler | blue_sky: which "Debian" installer are you using? |
| 11:36.38 | blue_sky | nkuttler: install docs say fdisk for gurus only! |
| 11:36.58 | OsteHovel | you can use cfdisk if you want a more userfriendly tool |
| 11:37.02 | blue_sky | nkuttler: I'm wanting to modify my set up, it's been installed for years |
| 11:37.40 | nkuttler | blue_sky: so what are you talking about? |
| 11:37.42 | blue_sky | OsteHovel: install docs says cfdisk doesn't support BSD style partitions - which is what I appear to have |
| 11:38.02 | nkuttler | you're installing, but it's been installed for years... |
| 11:38.36 | blue_sky | nkuttler: I'm not installing. I'm looking for something to manage the partitions, the installer docs are all I could find that mention partition management |
| 11:38.54 | ksk | fdisk, parted |
| 11:39.26 | nkuttler | last time i checked fdisk could do slices just fine, couldn't it? |
| 11:40.01 | blue_sky | ksk: I started fdisk looks pretty scary |
| 11:40.22 | nkuttler | blue_sky: which part of it? |
| 11:40.36 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 11:40.45 | ksk | i used fdisk until i started having gpt-style parttions, using parted now. it has some interactive mode which is kinda self explaining |
| 11:41.02 | ksk | (do backups and stuff..) |
| 11:41.24 | blue_sky | Usage: fdisk [options] <disk> ? not as friendly as cfdisk |
| 11:41.58 | nkuttler | you prefer cfdisk [options] [device] ? |
| 11:42.26 | blue_sky | nkuttler: wasn't cfdisk the one with the ncurses gui? |
| 11:42.42 | nkuttler | blue_sky: if you prefer cfdisk why don't you simply use it? |
| 11:43.28 | blue_sky | nkuttler: cfdisk doesn't support bsd style partitons - which I apear to have (my /etc/fstab is full or UUID=? are those BSD style, they're not familiar to me) |
| 11:43.49 | nkuttler | blue_sky: no, those are not BSD partitions, that's just labels |
| 11:44.31 | *** join/#debian MrTorque (~hans@84.38.67.239) |
| 11:44.38 | blue_sky | nkuttler: hmmm? cfdisk says: Bad primary partition 1: partition ends in the final partition cylinder |
| 11:44.42 | nkuttler | actually, UUID, not label.. |
| 11:44.44 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 11:44.53 | nkuttler | blue_sky: i don't use cfdisk |
| 11:46.04 | blue_sky | nkuttler: you use fdisk? |
| 11:46.48 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 11:46.48 | nkuttler | blue_sky: i do |
| 11:47.03 | nkuttler | blue_sky: btw, what did you *do*? did you modify the partition table of a disk you're using? |
| 11:47.16 | *** join/#debian pratz (cb52fa47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.82.250.71) |
| 11:47.28 | pratz | Hello guys |
| 11:47.43 | pratz | hcitool scan is not scanning devices, any idea ? |
| 11:48.16 | blue_sky | nkuttler: I've not modified anything yet. my /home is almost full, I've bought a new drive gonna migrate, would really like to assign current /home to /usr |
| 11:48.23 | *** join/#debian sebuba (~sebuba@unaffiliated/sebuba) |
| 11:48.41 | nkuttler | blue_sky: why would you need to change the partition table to do that? |
| 11:48.46 | *** join/#debian Tired (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 11:48.48 | *** join/#debian darsie (~username@91-119-98-135.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:49.11 | blue_sky | nkuttler: I mean combine /usr and (current) /home |
| 11:50.05 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p4FF8ACBE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:52.31 | Posterdati | hi |
| 11:53.03 | *** join/#debian digdilem_ (~digdilem_@work.mareandfoal.org) |
| 11:53.20 | Posterdati | please I need help with wheezy and an old toshiba satellite m30x-159, I've got problem with radeon v350 (radeon 9600 m10) it won't work with radeon (not fglrx) driver |
| 11:55.39 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@82-68-174-118.in-addr.centralnic.net) |
| 11:58.14 | *** join/#debian megharsh (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 11:58.30 | *** join/#debian NeSk (NeSk@ABayonne-157-1-207-50.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:00.18 | *** join/#debian r1PPer_1 (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 12:01.24 | *** join/#debian kdawg (~kdawg@S0106001b1168d548.ok.shawcable.net) |
| 12:03.49 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 12:06.08 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.186.74) |
| 12:06.45 | *** join/#debian matheus_ (~matheus@201-89-13-10.ctaje700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 12:07.04 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 12:08.38 | aguitel | i have 2 hd ,in Ide are archlinux and in SATA are debian ;i am in debian right now but grub only see debian ,why not see arch? |
| 12:09.47 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@91-64-160-173-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 12:10.31 | *** part/#debian An_Ony_Moose (~linus@skysimulation.de) |
| 12:14.07 | *** join/#debian Chelsea (~Chelsea@a82-161-180-155.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 12:14.33 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:14.43 | Coweater | grub doesn't do a search, it's menu is created at install time. was the arch install there when debian was installed? |
| 12:14.55 | *** join/#debian matheus (~matheus@200.138.3.2) |
| 12:15.34 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 12:16.18 | *** join/#debian kitajski (~kitaiskii@200.127.95.128) |
| 12:16.27 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 12:17.21 | Coweater | aguitel: it may be as simple as having os-prober installed and running update-grub |
| 12:17.48 | aguitel | Coweater, i make this steps but only debian appears |
| 12:19.22 | *** join/#debian Guest9041 (Guest9041@218.59.111.165) |
| 12:20.20 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 12:24.59 | *** join/#debian dabor_ (~dabor@200.5.222.64) |
| 12:25.22 | steven777 | Is this possible that Wi-Fi adapter requires proprietary and closed-source firmware, but does not require driver? |
| 12:26.11 | Coweater | yes, lots of drivers are built into the kernel and will be loaded automatically |
| 12:26.13 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.93.251) |
| 12:26.13 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 12:26.20 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:27.34 | Coweater | aguitel: i guess you'll have to add a manual entry in /etc/default/grub, i'm on my way out though so i can't help more |
| 12:27.52 | aguitel | ok |
| 12:29.30 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-124-183-96-181.lns14.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 12:30.08 | *** join/#debian boichev (~boichev@46.40.121.232) |
| 12:30.24 | boichev | what is the name of the kernel devel package in debian 6 ? |
| 12:30.51 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF6B8A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:30.52 | steven777 | Coweater, ok. So this means I don't see them listed in lsmod output, but I can see the driver loaded in dmesg output? |
| 12:31.54 | Coweater | the module should still be loaded and appear in lsmod, it may not be loaded if the firmware is missing though |
| 12:32.07 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-124-183-96-181.lns14.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 12:33.00 | boichev | got it :) |
| 12:33.16 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-167-204.netcologne.de) |
| 12:33.39 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-124-183-96-181.lns14.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 12:33.39 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 12:34.55 | *** join/#debian deadalnix (~deadalnix@212-198-163-100.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 12:35.29 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host72-23-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:35.54 | *** join/#debian chmig (~chmig@178-83-97-218.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 12:36.58 | *** part/#debian chmig (~chmig@178-83-97-218.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 12:37.06 | *** join/#debian drixter (~drixter@fido.e-utp.net) |
| 12:37.36 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.134.164) |
| 12:38.00 | *** join/#debian drixter (~drixter@fido.e-utp.net) |
| 12:39.31 | *** join/#debian iCarly (~thomas@p5B09CCF1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:40.18 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 12:42.05 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@58.165.163.16) |
| 12:42.48 | *** join/#debian fiRepath (~hex@strib0g.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 12:43.14 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.186.74) |
| 12:43.59 | *** join/#debian tjiggi_fo (~grumpy@c-50-138-47-168.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 12:45.15 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-76-167.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 12:46.53 | boichev | what should I reconfigure to let me choose witch apt mirror i want ? |
| 12:47.22 | daemonkeeper | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:47.51 | *** join/#debian brah (c82b26b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.43.38.181) |
| 12:48.32 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (chris@2001:1938:2a5:0:224:21ff:fee4:1de3) |
| 12:48.40 | brah | Hi. |
| 12:48.48 | brah | What's the debian way to install grub to mbr on the latest stable? |
| 12:48.48 | boichev | daemonkeeper, I want the other blue menu :) that is in the install |
| 12:48.55 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 12:49.05 | *** join/#debian blue_sky (~justin@163.178.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 12:49.30 | ksk | brah: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX |
| 12:49.55 | *** join/#debian beerbro (~gustav@mineralwasser.jesus.si) |
| 12:50.10 | brah | ksk: --recheck: probe a device map even if it already exists |
| 12:50.11 | brah | What is this? |
| 12:50.16 | brah | I already tried without that flag. |
| 12:52.12 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@79.133.68.248) |
| 12:52.25 | *** join/#debian TonyL (~TonyL@unaffiliated/darkg) |
| 12:53.00 | ksk | hum, tbh i have no idea |
| 12:53.41 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 12:54.23 | brah | Grub2 is actually installed because I am chainloading to Grub2 using a Supergrub CD, I just can't seem to be able to get the hard disk to boot to Grub2 by itself. |
| 12:54.33 | *** join/#debian Beast (~TheBeast@pc-159-2-101-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 12:55.22 | daemonkeeper | boichev: I don't know if there is a standalone tool. netselect-apt or apt-spy may find the best(tm) mirror for you, http.debian.net does likewise using a HTTP CDN. |
| 12:56.54 | *** join/#debian _no0b_ (~user@unaffiliated/-no0b-/x-3729563) |
| 12:57.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1241] by debhelper |
| 12:57.52 | *** join/#debian Beast1 (~TheBeast@pc-159-2-101-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 12:59.38 | *** join/#debian AndroUser (~androirc@host114-63-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:00.05 | *** part/#debian AndroUser (~androirc@host114-63-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:00.10 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 13:01.14 | *** join/#debian ehlu (~ehlu@109.74.0.47) |
| 13:02.06 | *** join/#debian iorivur (~quassel@222-151-189-187.jp.fiberbit.net) |
| 13:02.29 | *** join/#debian willj (~willj__@24-145-40-016-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net) |
| 13:02.36 | *** join/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:03.03 | *** part/#debian apathor (~apathor@c-24-218-104-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:04.02 | boichev | daemonkeeper, thx |
| 13:05.35 | *** join/#debian JBzh (~bzh@ip-158.net-80-236-65.issy.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:06.15 | *** join/#debian Gerben (~Gerben@62.132.92.10) |
| 13:06.27 | *** join/#debian |BND|loony (~xmasloony@p508897A5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:06.42 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 13:08.47 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~noahfx@186.151.82.223) |
| 13:10.00 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 13:10.04 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~user@p57A7EAA2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:10.20 | no_gravity | Hello! Whats the best way to remotely connect to an existing X session? x11vnc? |
| 13:10.25 | *** join/#debian thewanderer1 (~thewander@89-71-127-120.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 13:11.18 | xand | unfortunately I think that is so |
| 13:11.36 | wols_ | nx can't connect to an existing session? |
| 13:11.37 | *** part/#debian odirus (~odirus@223.85.11.86) |
| 13:11.54 | xand | I didn't think it could, but maybe things have changed since i used it |
| 13:11.57 | *** join/#debian rayel74 (~david@mail.davidandjoe.com) |
| 13:12.00 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@81.31.245.8) |
| 13:12.26 | wols_ | brah: what's the size of your harddisk? |
| 13:12.34 | *** join/#debian pats_Toms (~pats_Toms@78.84.194.143) |
| 13:12.50 | *** join/#debian ellic (~ellic@66-90-198-31.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 13:12.56 | brah | wols_: 80GB |
| 13:12.58 | *** join/#debian jakenl (~jakenl@195.242.97.150) |
| 13:13.10 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 13:13.11 | *** join/#debian n0b0dy (~n0b0dy@89.189.166.219) |
| 13:13.19 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@71.Red-88-27-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:13.31 | wols_ | ok, then it's not a size problem :) |
| 13:13.52 | *** join/#debian cakehero (~cakehero@200.32.212.12) |
| 13:14.28 | *** join/#debian neur0x (~neur0x@unaffiliated/neur0x) |
| 13:14.52 | no_gravity | when invoked with just "x11vnc" it runs without password protection... holla! |
| 13:15.32 | wols_ | communist computing |
| 13:15.54 | no_gravity | apart from that - it works! nice. |
| 13:17.17 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1255] by debhelper |
| 13:19.18 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@unaffiliated/gnugr) |
| 13:20.31 | *** join/#debian hasdf (~Hasdf@188-192-77-165-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:20.35 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 13:21.33 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@ALyon-256-1-117-101.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:22.40 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:23.00 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:23.20 | *** join/#debian LU324 (~stuff@nc-71-53-111-43.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 13:23.29 | *** join/#debian mp_ (~mp@dslb-094-223-010-043.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:23.36 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:23.57 | *** join/#debian auerbach (~eugene@185-160-244-87.sat.poltava.ua) |
| 13:25.24 | *** join/#debian ajith_kanu (~kanu@117.206.13.205) |
| 13:26.19 | *** part/#debian ajith_kanu (~kanu@117.206.13.205) |
| 13:27.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1261] by debhelper |
| 13:27.26 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-8-177.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 13:27.30 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@183.16.214.27) |
| 13:28.16 | *** join/#debian jurrehart (~quassel@mail02.schenkerit.com) |
| 13:28.23 | *** join/#debian dshep (~dshep_@shepsoft.net) |
| 13:29.31 | *** join/#debian rtjure (~rtjure@15.251.169.69) |
| 13:29.39 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-58-166-77-1.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:29.46 | *** join/#debian yangzhiwei (~yang@49.83.64.131) |
| 13:30.14 | *** part/#debian sirToast (toast@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-zsbzjklehqfqprex) |
| 13:30.29 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 13:31.04 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-124-178-142-133.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:32.55 | *** join/#debian RoozbehOnline (~rosha@37.254.217.127) |
| 13:33.41 | *** join/#debian martxel (~martxel@187.85-86-50.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 13:34.12 | yangzhiwei | hi, i can't input chinese char in the PostgreSQL command , anyone has idea? |
| 13:36.28 | *** join/#debian gour (~gour@unaffiliated/gour) |
| 13:37.06 | *** join/#debian harirama (~guest@209-108.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 13:38.04 | *** join/#debian RussellB28 (russell@2001:41d0:8:4d4a::18) |
| 13:38.21 | gour | i use wheezy and dovecot does not show BLF_CRYPT scheme as available...i also see there is supposed to be bcrypt package (http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bcrypt) but apt-get does not locate it. |
| 13:38.39 | gour | how to get blowfish scheme for dovecot passwds? |
| 13:39.37 | brah | gour: You will have to install the sid version. |
| 13:40.29 | *** part/#debian harirama (~guest@209-108.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 13:41.06 | gour | brah: ok. hopefully it won't break anything |
| 13:42.12 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-124-187-128-198.lns15.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:42.33 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.140.188) |
| 13:42.51 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@cpe-184-153-69-193.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 13:42.51 | *** join/#debian DemonJester (~DemonJest@fedora/DemonJester) |
| 13:43.33 | *** join/#debian althaser (~gnu@althaser.oracle.deadbsd.org) |
| 13:44.02 | *** join/#debian Ephemeris959 (~binny@199.6.29.254) |
| 13:45.39 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.140.188) |
| 13:46.36 | *** join/#debian k5673 (~dti3@201.217.28.246) |
| 13:47.06 | brah | grub-install --recheck /dev/sda -> Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 13:47.11 | brah | Still doesn't boot. |
| 13:47.36 | ksk | you told your bios to boot from hdd? |
| 13:47.48 | brah | ksk: Yeah. |
| 13:48.01 | brah | dmesg doesn't show any write errors either. |
| 13:49.23 | brah | Perhaps my disk partitioning is not good? |
| 13:49.37 | *** part/#debian gour (~gour@unaffiliated/gour) |
| 13:49.41 | brah | Linux from 1 to 9600, extended from 9600 to 9730, swap from 9600 to 9730 |
| 13:49.59 | *** join/#debian JBzh (~bzh@ip-158.net-80-236-65.issy.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:52.03 | b0ss_ | Hi |
| 13:53.08 | b0ss_ | I installed Debian Squeeze in my laptop and I'm trying to set wireless access. I don't have access through cable / ethernet |
| 13:53.19 | b0ss_ | here are the steps I've already accomplished: |
| 13:53.24 | b0ss_ | dpkg -l wireless-tools |
| 13:53.25 | dpkg | ii wireless-tools 1.8-11.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 13:53.30 | *** join/#debian matheus (~matheus@201-66-27-203.ctaje700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 13:53.31 | b0ss_ | it's ok |
| 13:53.37 | b0ss_ | dpkg -l wpasupplicant |
| 13:53.37 | dpkg | No packages found matching wpasupplicant |
| 13:53.39 | b0ss_ | it's ok |
| 13:53.51 | *** join/#debian erbo (~erik@host.62.65.124.36.bitcom.se) |
| 13:54.08 | b0ss_ | added this to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:54.18 | b0ss_ | https://gist.github.com/4431521 |
| 13:54.28 | b0ss_ | and got the output listed there. |
| 13:54.34 | b0ss_ | what did I do wrong ? |
| 13:56.14 | *** join/#debian chimay (~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay) |
| 13:57.43 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@71-218-151-92.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 13:58.07 | *** join/#debian aleba (~Alexander@ppp-46-244-182-195.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:00.03 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 14:01.50 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.232.31.162) |
| 14:01.58 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 14:03.30 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@glo44-2-89-80-52-64.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 14:04.46 | *** join/#debian alkul (~alk@254.Red-83-33-84.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:05.34 | *** join/#debian ozux (~ozux@77.238.59.39) |
| 14:07.43 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@12.148.198.170) |
| 14:08.40 | bniels | b0ss_, does scanning with the card work and does it show the ssid you're looking for in the result list? |
| 14:08.45 | *** join/#debian bnw_ (~bnw@183.16.211.137) |
| 14:12.19 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@178.204.115.194) |
| 14:12.42 | deadalnix | Lot of progress on the multiarch side for me ! Congrat guys ! |
| 14:12.48 | *** join/#debian romain___ (~quassel@2a02-8420-649c-1400-d5fe-e59b-558e-2f40.rev.sfr.net) |
| 14:20.40 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.148.202.118) |
| 14:21.06 | *** join/#debian giricz81 (~giricz81@ip-89-102-4-14.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 14:22.28 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@101.174.159.118) |
| 14:22.33 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.13) |
| 14:23.12 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@eth3.bismuth.canonical.com) |
| 14:23.14 | *** join/#debian HexaByte (~HexaByte@91.223.182.254) |
| 14:24.04 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 14:24.33 | *** join/#debian h (~slugga@2604:180::f482:9c24) |
| 14:26.04 | *** join/#debian nielsb (~niels@p4FD6FBFC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:26.57 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:27.09 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 14:27.23 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD60768.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:29.00 | *** join/#debian mypapit (~mypapit@175.140.186.215) |
| 14:29.37 | *** join/#debian TiJof (~TiJof@smtp.rabouin.es) |
| 14:29.43 | *** part/#debian TiJof (~TiJof@smtp.rabouin.es) |
| 14:30.35 | Tree_Hugger | is away: PRO-ACTIVE |
| 14:30.59 | *** join/#debian TIBS01 (~tibs01@b0ff5983.bb.sky.com) |
| 14:32.25 | *** join/#debian Vooch_ (~vooch@71-88-193-144.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) |
| 14:32.51 | *** join/#debian previous-carif_ (~mcarifio@eth3.bismuth.canonical.com) |
| 14:33.48 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~i@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 14:34.49 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 14:34.50 | *** join/#debian shomon (3e6169d9@lorea/gardener/cooperativa.ecoxarxes.cat) |
| 14:34.56 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@glo44-2-89-80-52-64.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 14:35.11 | shomon | hi, I just installed debian, and my question is... |
| 14:35.14 | shomon | where did it end up? |
| 14:35.43 | shomon | there's windows here, i'm sure it is hiding the debian partition somewhere.. or I didn't install grub in the right place |
| 14:36.45 | *** join/#debian InvalidHandle (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb8e-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 14:37.01 | *** join/#debian milligan (~milligan@2001:16d8:ee92:0:20d:b9ff:fe0d:4610) |
| 14:37.01 | SPF | shomon: I think Windows is hiding the partition because it cannot read it |
| 14:37.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1269] by debhelper |
| 14:37.19 | shomon | is there a way to fix that? |
| 14:37.34 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 14:37.37 | ksk | shomon: you can use the windows "partition manager" to see non-ntfs partitions |
| 14:37.38 | shomon | well I don't care if windows sees it |
| 14:37.49 | shomon | I mean just how do I boot into linux and forget this tired OS |
| 14:38.02 | ksk | you have to install debian after windows, not vice versa |
| 14:38.07 | shomon | I did |
| 14:38.23 | ksk | if you installed grub during this installation it should boot.. |
| 14:38.36 | shomon | I created a new partition sda6, but windows boots of sda1 I think |
| 14:39.19 | shomon | I've not much of a clue about master boot records or grub.... I wonder if there's a trick to getting windows to go into grub at some point |
| 14:40.02 | shomon | I will try rebooting and see if it gives me the options as to what OS to load. |
| 14:46.00 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 14:46.55 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~bwmerlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 14:47.48 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-124-178-142-133.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 14:49.15 | Infiltrator | shomon: It didn't pick it up automatically? It usually does. |
| 14:49.59 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 14:52.02 | nielsb | maybe shomon installed grub to the partition boot sector instead of the mbr? |
| 14:52.30 | *** join/#debian maotm (~kvirc@maotm.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 14:54.01 | *** join/#debian salah (~salah@adsl196-159-6-217-196.adsl196-9.iam.net.ma) |
| 14:54.03 | b0ss_ | bniels |
| 14:54.46 | b0ss_ | bniels: the card work is ok and the scan of ssids shows my one. |
| 14:55.33 | nielsb | b0ss_, hmm, okay. have you tried setting the channel number explicitly in /etc/network/interfaces? maybe that helps |
| 14:57.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1263] by debhelper |
| 14:57.45 | *** join/#debian welch (~welch@209.133.117.5) |
| 14:58.04 | *** join/#debian shomon (3e6169d9@lorea/gardener/cooperativa.ecoxarxes.cat) |
| 14:58.34 | *** join/#debian lucho (~lucho@r201-217-135-245.ir-static.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 14:58.48 | shomon | hi, I just installed debian on a samsung laptop, with windows on it already. It doesn't seem to have installed grub. Is there a way to find out if debian is there hidden somewhere? |
| 14:59.34 | shomon | nothing appears when you boot: it goes directly into windows. |
| 14:59.58 | thewanderer1 | shomon, did GRUB report an error during Debian installation? did it ask about installing to MBR? |
| 15:00.46 | brah | shomon: Did you check the partition manager like ksk told you? |
| 15:00.47 | *** part/#debian wrod (~wrodrigue@110.235.82.2) |
| 15:00.49 | shomon | yeah it did thewanderer1 : it tried to instlal to the usb I used, and so I told it to put this mbr on sda6 instead |
| 15:01.01 | shomon | brah: how do you check the partition manager? |
| 15:01.19 | b0ss_ | nielsb: how do I do that ? |
| 15:01.31 | brah | shomon: Right click My Computer, you have an option called something like Manage, then go into the disk manager. |
| 15:02.13 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 15:02.13 | *** part/#debian Sm0kEz (~Sm0kEz@95.147.117.169) |
| 15:02.38 | *** join/#debian Guest9081 (~skilz@CPE-121-216-123-2.lnse2.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 15:02.55 | shomon | ah there they are brah - it says they are healthy :) |
| 15:03.07 | thewanderer1 | shomon, sda6 is not a valid MBR location... you should have used /dev/sda instead if that is your main disk |
| 15:03.15 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 15:03.28 | shomon | aah |
| 15:03.33 | shomon | is there any way to correct it now? |
| 15:03.46 | *** join/#debian aauthor (~aauthor@74.83.27.142) |
| 15:03.59 | thewanderer1 | you could run the install CD in Rescue Mode and tell it to re-install GRUB, there should be an option for this I think |
| 15:04.09 | b0ss_ | nielsb: I'm a starter. how do I do that ? |
| 15:04.11 | *** join/#debian Quix0r (~quix0r@dslb-188-100-208-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:04.20 | shomon | ok, it's what went in the usb based on unetbootin + debian stable |
| 15:04.36 | thewanderer1 | shomon, btw. you have a /boot partition that has a number lower than 5, right? |
| 15:04.47 | ChrisH | I tried to find a howto for Amazon cloud Drive and Debian.. no success, seems my keywords were not well choosen. Any hints, tips, links on that? |
| 15:04.48 | thewanderer1 | (as in, primary, not extended/"logical") |
| 15:04.59 | *** join/#debian nIMBVS (~nIMBVS@2a02:2f0e:3010:19:225:56ff:fe66:26d) |
| 15:05.08 | *** join/#debian welch (~welch@209.133.117.5) |
| 15:05.30 | *** join/#debian cYrilD (~cYrilD@195.88.85.200) |
| 15:06.01 | shomon | no idea how to find out these numbers |
| 15:06.02 | *** join/#debian bnk (~bnk@adsl-67-127-228-111.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 15:06.02 | *** join/#debian bnk (~bnk@unaffiliated/bnk) |
| 15:07.18 | *** join/#debian passstab (~coplon@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 15:07.38 | nielsb | b0ss_, i'm not sure, sorry. you can have a look at /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to find additional options |
| 15:08.12 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 15:09.05 | *** join/#debian neur0x (~neur0x@202.Red-83-38-229.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:09.06 | *** join/#debian neur0x (~neur0x@unaffiliated/neur0x) |
| 15:10.07 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 15:10.11 | shomon | sorry thewanderer1 but I have no idea what that means. I have a boot partition I think, it's ntfs and was there before I touched this computer |
| 15:11.28 | shomon | does unetbootin have a rescue mode? |
| 15:11.28 | nielsb | thewanderer1, i believe grub has no problems booting from logical partitions |
| 15:11.42 | shomon | I just don't get an option to boot from anything |
| 15:11.46 | shomon | it just goes directly into windows |
| 15:11.48 | wols_ | shomon: don't use it for debian |
| 15:12.12 | wols_ | shomon: if you want to create a debian installer on usb from windows, use Yumi |
| 15:12.13 | shomon | well there you are, I came in here this morning and was told to use unetbootin |
| 15:12.38 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 15:12.40 | thewanderer1 | nielsb, GRUB, no - BIOS does... |
| 15:12.49 | shomon | so you mean no way to repair this, I need to just reinstall from scratch |
| 15:13.16 | thewanderer1 | shomon, alright, let's see... what partitions did you tell Debian to create? |
| 15:13.30 | wols_ | I know that unetbootin often makes problems with debian netinst. known problem |
| 15:13.36 | wols_ | not always but for many people it does |
| 15:13.43 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.192.39) |
| 15:14.01 | shomon | thewanderer1: a swap and a regular one |
| 15:14.17 | *** join/#debian jkfod (~Greg_od@212-178-1-233.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) |
| 15:14.25 | shomon | sda6 and sda7 |
| 15:15.15 | nielsb | thewanderer1, but the bios does have no business with that. when grub is loaded, all should be fine. you just need to have one of the primary partitions "activated". but that's obviously the case, otherwise it wouldn't boot at all |
| 15:15.36 | shomon | so there's no key combination or somthing that gets windows to see those partitions? |
| 15:15.43 | nielsb | thewanderer1, and he already told us what he did wrong. he didn't install grub to the MBR |
| 15:16.02 | *** join/#debian binaryhat (~binaryhat@99-119-205-0.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:16.20 | shomon | ok I'll boot into the usb and see if it gives me any options. |
| 15:16.30 | jhutchins_wk | shomon: Native Windows will see the partitions as unknown. |
| 15:16.42 | wols_ | !reinstall grub |
| 15:16.42 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html . Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode>. |
| 15:16.43 | thewanderer1 | nielsb, ok, I thought you needed to mark *the* partition, as opposed to *any* partition, as active (bootable) - but I stand corrected |
| 15:16.45 | jhutchins_wk | !fixgrub |
| 15:16.48 | wols_ | that's how you fix it shomon |
| 15:17.11 | shomon | hmm, there are no blank cds here |
| 15:17.34 | jhutchins_wk | shomon: You can use the USB drive too. |
| 15:17.43 | thewanderer1 | shomon, the original install CD/pendrive should have a menu in the beginning. do you see a menu? can you go into "Advanced"? |
| 15:17.51 | Towzzer | is there something to disable the framebuffer and get a low resolution for grub and the console? |
| 15:17.55 | shomon | the one I made with unetbootin? |
| 15:17.55 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 15:17.58 | Towzzer | it breaks my ip kvm |
| 15:18.09 | *** join/#debian addaitech (~lennox@2001:5c0:1000:a::411) |
| 15:18.22 | shomon | ok I will boot into that now and see, thanks. |
| 15:18.54 | zykotick9 | Towzzer: <joking, i see it's a vm> sure, install nvidia propritary drivers. (sorry don't know the real answer) |
| 15:19.03 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (~fireba11@enlightning.de) |
| 15:19.20 | thewanderer1 | Towzzer, are you using an external KVM-over-IP, hooked up to a VGA output? or internal, on-chip BMC? |
| 15:19.27 | Towzzer | the first and last |
| 15:19.32 | Towzzer | spider kvm, which is a ip kvm |
| 15:19.39 | Towzzer | and sometimes ipmi v2 (supermicro) |
| 15:19.50 | fireba11 | hi, is there any place i can look up if a certain kernel version got drivers for a spcific NIC? |
| 15:19.51 | wols_ | Towzzer: you can tell the linux kernel to not use fb. and it should be possible for grub to |
| 15:19.51 | Towzzer | I also just don't like the framebuffer because on server motherboards the onboard video chipset is weak |
| 15:19.55 | wols_ | nofb |
| 15:19.56 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 15:19.58 | Towzzer | and it scrolls slowly |
| 15:20.08 | Towzzer | like when I type 10 print "fu" 20 goto 10 |
| 15:20.13 | Towzzer | I want that to output quickly |
| 15:20.41 | thewanderer1 | Towzzer, can you maybe replace the KVMoverIP with IPMI 2.0 SOL? |
| 15:20.50 | Towzzer | that's kinda a tad expensive :D |
| 15:21.16 | jhutchins_wk | Towzzer: Yes, you can disable the framebuffer, but you will not be able to get full resolution or acceleration. |
| 15:21.16 | thewanderer1 | I have a SuperMicro box here, it has serial over lan and it works with ipmitool |
| 15:21.49 | Towzzer | yeah it works it's just slower etc |
| 15:21.55 | Towzzer | when I'm running a server and it's console |
| 15:21.58 | Towzzer | I just need like 640x480 |
| 15:22.04 | Towzzer | or whatever the default is |
| 15:22.05 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-58-166-85-192.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 15:22.07 | jhutchins_wk | !kms |
| 15:22.08 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 15:22.13 | *** join/#debian bazhang (~bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang) |
| 15:22.45 | thewanderer1 | Towzzer, does your mobo have Intel iGPU, or Matrox? |
| 15:23.11 | *** join/#debian Ratty (~Ratty@d27-96-64-139.evv.wideopenwest.com) |
| 15:23.23 | thewanderer1 | (I don't think the KMS disable toggle would work with Matrox, since it doesn't have KMS to start with...) |
| 15:23.30 | jhutchins_wk | fireba11: We have a database bot that should be able to find it from the pciid (pci -nn, find the eight figure ID). |
| 15:23.49 | *** join/#debian BackEndCoder (~steve@77.75.105.75) |
| 15:23.57 | fireba11 | jhutchins_wk: i don't have the hardware yet, i want to make sure it will work BEVORE buying it |
| 15:24.07 | thewanderer1 | also try what wols_ said: "nofb"... there used to be a kernel parameter for setting the resolution, "vga=XXX" I think. check if that still works... |
| 15:24.11 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@212.130.47.184) |
| 15:24.25 | jhutchins_wk | fireba11: Very difficult to know, the same model may have different chipsets depending on the build. |
| 15:24.48 | *** join/#debian PigDude (~tallen@unaffiliated/pigdude) |
| 15:24.49 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:24.51 | *** join/#debian Marksoc (4fccba22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.204.186.34) |
| 15:25.00 | zykotick9 | thewanderer1: fyi vga= has been deprecated for a while now (but usually still works i hear) |
| 15:25.26 | Marksoc | hello I just installed debian with openssh on my server but everytime I try to connect I get Connection to myserver.org closed. |
| 15:25.34 | jhutchins_wk | !framebuffer |
| 15:25.35 | dpkg | Framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. X is a framebuffer system, as is berlin. If you're looking for the framebuffer console, ask me about <fbcon>, or ask about <blacklist> to negate it. To disable framebuffer use at Debian installation time, supply the "fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options. See also <uvesafb>. |
| 15:25.38 | Marksoc | even if the authentication was scuessfull |
| 15:25.52 | PigDude | how do i install sun java on wheezy? dpkg didn't tell me |
| 15:26.11 | jhutchins_wk | Marksoc: What does the auth log show? |
| 15:26.13 | Towzzer | apt-get install openjdk-1.6-jre |
| 15:26.22 | PigDude | Towzzer, *sun* java |
| 15:26.23 | Towzzer | oh sorry, sun java |
| 15:26.25 | PigDude | :) |
| 15:26.26 | Towzzer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.32 | brah | PigDude: It's on non-free. |
| 15:26.36 | Marksoc | jhutchins_wk: where do I find the auth log? |
| 15:26.41 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 15:26.45 | PigDude | brah, not in wheezy |
| 15:26.59 | *** join/#debian Rosha (~rosha@37.254.237.246) |
| 15:27.24 | thewanderer1 | PigDude, www.java.com I suppose... Debian is not allowed to distribute Java, due to a silly policy change at Oracle. |
| 15:27.44 | PigDude | i was hoping there was a third-party repository |
| 15:27.53 | hirogen | what do you guys mostly do on linux, for work, for education or just playing around, like running a server or programming |
| 15:27.56 | PigDude | like for non-free video drivers and such |
| 15:28.01 | hirogen | is everyone her very IT literate say quite technical |
| 15:28.03 | Marksoc | jhutchins_wk: it says samthing like "pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user $my_username" |
| 15:28.21 | PigDude | hirogen, server & home |
| 15:28.25 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~bwmerlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 15:28.28 | jhutchins_wk | hirogen: We pretty much run the spectrum. |
| 15:28.59 | jhutchins_wk | Marksoc: What OS are you connecting from? |
| 15:29.35 | hirogen | i know a guy hes looking to setup around 10 to 20 vms so his users can login to the vms via SSH , as he runs a nice atheletics/training site.. but now he wants them to be able to play around |
| 15:29.55 | Marksoc | jhutchins_wk: debian wheezy on the client side and debian stable on the server site |
| 15:29.56 | jhutchins_wk | hirogen: Debian users tend to average a bit more sophisticated than say Ubuntu users, but we have some complete newcomers as well. |
| 15:30.10 | hirogen | ah ok |
| 15:30.17 | Marksoc | jhutchins_wk: I installed openssh-server from backports on the server btw |
| 15:30.18 | hirogen | i need to learn the command system |
| 15:30.25 | jelly-home | PigDude: no third party can redistribute oracle jdk/jre either without their permission |
| 15:30.49 | hirogen | but im not a programmer at all, i cant code, nor want too, i think i/ll be content with learning how to write a few scripts |
| 15:30.51 | PigDude | jelly-home, :P i guess it's time i rewrite closure compiler to work w/ openjre :^) |
| 15:30.52 | hirogen | here and there |
| 15:30.52 | jhutchins_wk | PigDude: In some releases I believe we've had scripts that grab the files from Sun. |
| 15:31.38 | jelly-home | PigDude: or just download stuff from oracle directly. Repackage using make-jpkg if you really want to |
| 15:31.42 | *** join/#debian sparty (~sparty@gateway/tor-sasl/sparty) |
| 15:31.57 | jelly-home | ,v java-package |
| 15:31.58 | judd | Package: java-package on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 0.42; sid/contrib: 0.50+nmu1; wheezy/contrib: 0.50+nmu1; experimental/contrib: 0.51~exp1 |
| 15:32.22 | jelly-home | pick the latest, use it on .bin / .tar.gz downloaded from oracle |
| 15:32.24 | wols_ | hirogen: scritping is programming too and a good way to start to learn |
| 15:32.29 | hirogen | k |
| 15:32.31 | Marksoc | hirogen: man bash |
| 15:33.03 | PigDude | jelly-home, ya that's what i'm doing now |
| 15:33.11 | hirogen | im so old, i flunked out of uni, i barely studied my whole life, im 32 now. so i need to sort myself out.. learn some skillz, |
| 15:33.20 | jelly-home | Marksoc: that's hardly a beginner's tutorial |
| 15:33.21 | PigDude | hirogen, 32 is not old |
| 15:33.24 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 15:33.27 | hirogen | yep |
| 15:33.29 | noRulez | !br |
| 15:33.30 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:33.31 | jelly-home | !bash guide |
| 15:33.44 | hirogen | !bash guide |
| 15:33.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, bash guide is http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide |
| 15:34.22 | hirogen | The site you have chosen has been categorized as: Criminal Skills http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashG... The website you are trying to access has been denied. If you have an issue with this please click here. |
| 15:34.24 | hirogen | lol |
| 15:34.35 | jelly-home | pfftt hahaha |
| 15:35.00 | *** join/#debian Tired (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 15:35.00 | *** join/#debian jamie90234 (~pias00@206.191.57.58) |
| 15:35.01 | thewanderer1 | this isn't Internet Explorer, is it... |
| 15:35.19 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-192-161.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 15:35.44 | *** join/#debian OsteHovel (~OsteHovel@197.48.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 15:36.07 | Marksoc | Why am I not able to connect to my debian server with ssh? I always get the error "Connection to $server closed." |
| 15:36.16 | noRulez | im try install dhcp server on debian squeeze but failed to start service |
| 15:36.26 | noRulez | wtf? |
| 15:36.31 | jelly-home | hirogen: that's what you're getting into, acquiring of criminal skillz. Next thing we'll teach you how to use a butter knife! |
| 15:36.38 | jhutchins_wk | thewanderer1: That's a proxy/firewall message |
| 15:36.59 | hirogen | yep |
| 15:37.00 | hirogen | netsweeper |
| 15:37.02 | hirogen | im at work |
| 15:37.07 | *** part/#debian iceroot (~irssi@static.182.245.40.188.clients.your-server.de) |
| 15:37.07 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@77.49.44.50.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 15:37.10 | hirogen | i was kinda shcoked when i saw that, |
| 15:37.44 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@75-134-81-98.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 15:38.09 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_ (~hds@192.38.90.34) |
| 15:39.03 | *** join/#debian nagarkot (~nagarkot_@224.49.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 15:41.22 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.140.188) |
| 15:41.25 | *** join/#debian anonymous364 (~jc@AMontpellier-652-1-238-230.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:41.49 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@58.165.142.218) |
| 15:41.49 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 15:42.00 | *** join/#debian cYrilD (~cYrilD@lvs-gateway1.teclib.net) |
| 15:42.16 | *** part/#debian PigDude (~tallen@unaffiliated/pigdude) |
| 15:46.10 | Marksoc | I can't login when I use zsh as my login shell, how do I fix this? |
| 15:46.39 | HardDisk_WP | how do I mount everything in mtab with type nfs? |
| 15:46.39 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-4143.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 15:46.43 | jhutchins_wk | noRulez: Not guessing what your actual error is, but you probably need to configure it before it will start. |
| 15:46.53 | HardDisk_WP | unmounting is easy with umount -a -t nfs but how do I do the mount? |
| 15:46.58 | *** join/#debian osfd (~osfd@mar44-6-78-238-152-140.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:47.18 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1255] by debhelper |
| 15:47.23 | jelly-home | Marksoc: verify your login shell is listed in /etc/shells, first |
| 15:48.11 | *** join/#debian driiper (54302c99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.48.44.153) |
| 15:49.23 | driiper | Hello! Is there anyone that know how i can install gnome without having it actually boot up with the computer? (What i want is to let it start only when im remoting in via xrdp) |
| 15:49.55 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:50.25 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 15:50.56 | *** join/#debian siu (~siu@APuteaux-653-1-207-203.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:52.08 | JBzh | driiper: "update-rc.d gdm3 remove" will prevent it from starting at boot (Wheezy/Gnome-shell) |
| 15:52.18 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 15:52.33 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 15:52.56 | driiper | JBzh: thanks! ill try it out! |
| 15:53.19 | *** join/#debian r1PPer (~1@188.244.144.11) |
| 15:54.40 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@120.21.126.94) |
| 15:56.16 | wols_ | !nodm |
| 15:56.16 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 15:57.31 | *** join/#debian talsamon_ (~talsamon@178-191-179-129.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 15:58.04 | *** join/#debian noRulez (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 15:58.26 | *** join/#debian KriP (~kp@cpee448c77de93c.cm.vejen-net.dk) |
| 15:58.38 | *** join/#debian Arrowmaster (~arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 15:59.31 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 16:00.10 | *** join/#debian voytek (~voytek@c-69-180-174-17.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 16:00.28 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 16:00.54 | *** join/#debian COnfuSed (~noRulez@189-041-115-159.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 16:01.47 | COnfuSed | jhutchins_wk, Oh man |
| 16:02.06 | COnfuSed | jhutchins_wk, Im Configured DHCPD and RESTART service |
| 16:02.11 | COnfuSed | all ok |
| 16:02.16 | COnfuSed | thanks very much |
| 16:02.18 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@101.161.2.80) |
| 16:02.33 | *** join/#debian slack` (~slack@218.201.170.3) |
| 16:02.46 | COnfuSed | jhutchins_wk im norulez =) |
| 16:03.49 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 16:03.59 | *** join/#debian nnn (~i@2001:0:53aa:64c:8f7:78f8:a6e8:ea1f) |
| 16:05.00 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e179017011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:05.31 | *** join/#debian dabor_ (~dabor@200.5.222.64) |
| 16:06.49 | *** join/#debian KiSM_ (~KiSM@CPE-124-178-142-133.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 16:07.51 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-78-145-86-216.as13285.net) |
| 16:08.13 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@82-68-174-118.in-addr.centralnic.net) |
| 16:08.20 | jhutchins_wk | contempt: That's not a service that can really be configured automatically. |
| 16:08.26 | *** join/#debian vbcv (~opera@194-60-90-host-4.pace.co.uk) |
| 16:08.43 | jhutchins_wk | noRUlez: See above. Sorry contempt. |
| 16:09.06 | *** join/#debian NcW (~NcW@190.151.71.226) |
| 16:11.21 | *** join/#debian pmade (~pmade@c-67-172-151-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 16:12.17 | *** part/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 16:12.48 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-129-163.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 16:13.50 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.13) |
| 16:14.06 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.192.39) |
| 16:14.11 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 16:14.26 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 16:14.41 | *** join/#debian rcu (~santa@79.112.140.188) |
| 16:16.21 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 16:17.10 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 16:17.36 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFFC83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:18.50 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@120.21.126.94) |
| 16:19.13 | *** join/#debian mekeor (~user@dslb-092-075-082-229.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:21.16 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@cel44-1-78-229-72-174.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:21.46 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-124-184-230-16.lns11.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 16:21.46 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 16:22.14 | *** join/#debian Vooch (~vooch@71-88-193-144.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) |
| 16:22.49 | *** join/#debian mtn (~Dan@174.32.161.37) |
| 16:23.06 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B556D3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:23.29 | *** join/#debian cccc828 (~hjgh@143.205.213.161) |
| 16:23.35 | *** join/#debian Zerobeholder (~chatzilla@d28-23-19-255.dim.wideopenwest.com) |
| 16:24.22 | *** join/#debian ndrs__ (~andres@86-41-178-147-dynamic.b-ras3.chf.cork.eircom.net) |
| 16:24.58 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 16:26.57 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 16:27.12 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~i@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 16:27.14 | *** join/#debian megharsh (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 16:28.05 | *** join/#debian Guest21630 (~OsteHovel@197.48.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 16:28.34 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@77.49.44.50.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 16:28.43 | *** join/#debian cortman (~cortman@ubuntu/member/cortman) |
| 16:29.01 | *** join/#debian Innocentus (~chatzilla@ltea-047-064-001-119.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:29.32 | *** join/#debian shomon (3e6169d9@lorea/gardener/cooperativa.ecoxarxes.cat) |
| 16:30.07 | *** join/#debian wrod (~wrodrigue@triband-mum-120.61.48.229.mtnl.net.in) |
| 16:30.09 | shomon | hi, I managed to install debian by cleaning out all the windows partitions... |
| 16:30.17 | shomon | how do I add myself to sudoers though? |
| 16:30.50 | boudiccas | shomon: edit /etc/sudoers and add yourself there |
| 16:31.01 | boudiccas | shomon: do it as root |
| 16:31.07 | *** join/#debian odin_ (~Odin@2a01:348:261:32:f4bb:63d2:58c3:ee87) |
| 16:31.08 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@adsl-dyn-75.95-102-92.t-com.sk) |
| 16:31.10 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@p4FE49743.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:31.28 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 16:31.53 | *** join/#debian relipse (relipse@68-117-141-147.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 16:31.55 | adc | shomon: /etc/sudoers MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root |
| 16:32.12 | shomon | it says please put it in sudoers.d/ |
| 16:32.38 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@89.47.83.116) |
| 16:32.39 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@unaffiliated/movl) |
| 16:32.52 | shomon | just an empty file with my username? |
| 16:33.00 | *** part/#debian Guest21630 (~OsteHovel@197.48.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 16:33.10 | *** join/#debian orkim (~orkim@unaffiliated/orkim) |
| 16:33.25 | *** join/#debian Oste_Hovel (~OsteHovel@197.48.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 16:33.27 | adc | shomon: please see http://wiki.debian.org/sudo |
| 16:33.44 | shomon | thanks adc |
| 16:34.33 | *** join/#debian sooraj1 (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 16:35.02 | JBzh | shomon: first "visudo", the file should not be empty. Add in this file : "yourusername ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" just after the line "root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" |
| 16:35.41 | movl | or copy the root line and change the username :) |
| 16:36.15 | shomon | hmm maybe I'm really old fashioned but alt-tab doesn-t bring up all my terminals.. :S |
| 16:36.22 | shomon | thanks JBzh ! |
| 16:36.33 | *** join/#debian rysiek|pl (~quassel@bramapc-NAT.elka.pw.edu.pl) |
| 16:37.02 | *** join/#debian addaitech (~lennox@2001:5c0:1000:a::7bf) |
| 16:37.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1270] by debhelper |
| 16:37.51 | shomon | aah that worked, thanks again JBzh |
| 16:37.54 | JBzh | shomon: you may be searching for CTRL+ALT+F1...F6 ? |
| 16:38.10 | JBzh | shomon: you're welcome |
| 16:38.42 | shomon | no, it's the new graphical stuffage.. the activities button.. I like my old menus :) |
| 16:39.11 | *** join/#debian k42b3 (~k42b3@p579977A4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:39.34 | mtn | shomon, hit the super key, it is even better than alt tab |
| 16:39.51 | shomon | ooh! |
| 16:40.16 | shomon | wow.. :) |
| 16:40.59 | *** join/#debian v4nelle (~van@46-198-15-227.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 16:41.47 | mtn | :) |
| 16:42.01 | v4nelle | guys is there a openbox channel? |
| 16:42.03 | *** join/#debian r0tha (~r0tha@173.247.200.122) |
| 16:42.15 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-58-168-82-30.lns5.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 16:42.19 | shomon | mtn: almost as cool as the "degauss" buttons you used to get on monitors |
| 16:42.23 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 16:42.26 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 16:43.52 | *** part/#debian mayak (~mayak@193.93.66.226) |
| 16:44.02 | *** join/#debian Desproges_ (~Asenar@212-198-253-112.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 16:45.16 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-129-163.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 16:45.31 | *** join/#debian JBzh (~bzh@ip-158.net-80-236-65.issy.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 16:47.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1262] by debhelper |
| 16:47.32 | zykotick9 | v4nelle: "/msg alis help" to find channels on freenode |
| 16:47.36 | *** join/#debian JoeHazzers (~Joe@area11.joehazzers.com) |
| 16:47.58 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 16:48.03 | *** join/#debian dabor_ (~dabor@200.5.222.64) |
| 16:48.46 | *** join/#debian o_ (~Icedove@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 16:49.07 | v4nelle | thx zykotick9 |
| 16:49.20 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~alex@187.149.169.96) |
| 16:50.16 | *** join/#debian psilonux (~psilonux@2001:470:1f15:10f6:e97f:e183:d250:9260) |
| 16:50.24 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@31.138.31.139) |
| 16:51.27 | buntunub | mtn what does the super key do for you |
| 16:51.27 | *** join/#debian cbdev (~fnord@hieristdas.internetzuen.de) |
| 16:51.34 | buntunub | on linux i mean |
| 16:52.14 | shomon | it makes you choose your window with the mouse |
| 16:52.26 | mtn | buntunub, on gnome 3 it will show all the windows open or minimized |
| 16:52.37 | mtn | buntunub, and other things, too |
| 16:52.39 | zykotick9 | v4nelle: looks like openbox is on oftc http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:Community_portal |
| 16:53.18 | *** join/#debian lorenzosu (~lorenzosu@5.84.12.11) |
| 16:53.37 | buntunub | ahh I use KDE so havent set the super key up to do that.. I have it set to launch kickoff :P |
| 16:54.19 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~pAt@p508FFE40.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:55.15 | *** join/#debian inri (~inri@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 16:55.34 | *** part/#debian inri (~inri@c-98-246-29-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 16:56.37 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 16:57.06 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 16:58.22 | HardDisk_WP | i've got a nfs4 mount here which can neither be accessed nor unmounted after server-restart |
| 16:58.35 | HardDisk_WP | neither umount.nfs4 -f nor -l help |
| 16:59.17 | HardDisk_WP | i always get umount.nfs4: /mnt/nfs/files: Stale NFS file handle |
| 17:00.29 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@cmpublishers.com) |
| 17:00.35 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 17:00.47 | *** join/#debian zlude (~zlude@200.218.248.3) |
| 17:01.07 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 17:01.12 | zlude | Hello! can i get the debian potato 2.2 in some place? just for test somethings... |
| 17:01.13 | jhutchins_wk | JBzh: You might want to look at that sudo page, Debian has pre-configured things with a slightly different approach. |
| 17:01.26 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.192.39) |
| 17:02.07 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 17:03.43 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 17:04.55 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_ (~hds@192.38.90.34) |
| 17:05.28 | *** join/#debian dabor_ (~dabor@200.5.222.64) |
| 17:05.35 | *** join/#debian nyuszika7h (nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h) |
| 17:05.41 | *** join/#debian nmeum (~nmeum@141.101.32.125) |
| 17:05.47 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 17:05.52 | *** join/#debian Pacma (~Pacma@81.184.155.178.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:05.59 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.13) |
| 17:07.05 | *** part/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@193.172.124.196) |
| 17:07.06 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 17:07.25 | *** join/#debian wnichols (~wnichols@216-54-215-245.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 17:07.31 | *** join/#debian o_ (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 17:08.43 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-3-62.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 17:08.48 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-3-62.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 17:09.41 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-8-177.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 17:10.07 | *** join/#debian Phil__M (~Phil@cpc4-pmth9-2-0-cust85.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:10.20 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-60-229-11-202.lns3.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 17:10.23 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 17:10.59 | *** join/#debian gnat_x (~nat@209.51.180.21) |
| 17:11.55 | *** join/#debian Infiltrator (~tim@115.187.228.99) |
| 17:12.50 | gnat_x | hi folks. i'm having issues with php5's date on two different libvirt containers which are running wheezy. it seems that neighter is able to get the timezone data — despite it being properly set on the system, and having run 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' a few times. |
| 17:12.56 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@188.50.93.250) |
| 17:12.56 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@unaffiliated/linkedinyou) |
| 17:13.16 | gnat_x | i'm pretty well at a loss, and would love some ideas. |
| 17:13.49 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 17:14.47 | *** join/#debian junix659 (~ameyer@24-171-122-131.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 17:15.14 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 17:16.29 | *** join/#debian mysteriousdaren (~darren@72.173.143.6) |
| 17:17.19 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1272] by debhelper |
| 17:18.02 | gnat_x | s/neighter/neither |
| 17:18.29 | *** join/#debian wad (~wad@vps.zerbat.com) |
| 17:18.32 | *** join/#debian GorillaPatch (~GorillaPa@ln01.gorillapatch.com) |
| 17:19.29 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@dslb-178-004-246-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:19.34 | *** join/#debian abailarri (~abailarri@58.Red-83-54-96.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:19.35 | abailarri | Hello. Wanted to know if to Connect to a server that requires TLS encryption FPT explicit with LFTP |
| 17:20.37 | *** join/#debian vivid (~Thunderbi@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:21.31 | *** join/#debian nmeum (~nmeum@141.101.32.125) |
| 17:21.48 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@101.161.156.74) |
| 17:21.54 | jelly-home | o ftps://.../ ? |
| 17:22.04 | Oste_Hovel | gnat_x: What does php_info() says? |
| 17:23.08 | *** join/#debian nmeum (~nmeum@141.101.32.125) |
| 17:23.09 | *** join/#debian v4nelle (~van@46-198-15-227.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 17:23.47 | abailarri | jelly-home, You're telling me? |
| 17:23.56 | *** join/#debian preds (~nathan@38.105.162.11) |
| 17:25.56 | v4nelle | anybody with openbox here? |
| 17:26.41 | *** join/#debian nmeum (~nmeum@141.101.32.125) |
| 17:28.14 | mtn | v4nelle, it is best to ask your real question |
| 17:28.19 | *** join/#debian pullphing (~pullphing@12.40.23.68) |
| 17:28.31 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@78.181.118.75) |
| 17:28.31 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 17:29.05 | v4nelle | i want to load gnome-settings-daemon on me openbox,but i dont want gnome-settings-daemon override my gtk theme..is that possible? |
| 17:29.05 | *** join/#debian megharsh (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 17:29.32 | *** join/#debian ArtVandalae (~SuperUnkn@CPE-124-181-114-181.vic.bigpond.net.au) |
| 17:30.15 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@67.41.13.151) |
| 17:30.17 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 17:30.20 | *** join/#debian balordo (~balordo@host23-94-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:31.00 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@2a01:e34:ee54:8ae0:e5a7:20a:8cf3:c28f) |
| 17:31.14 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-129-163.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 17:32.00 | *** join/#debian Greedi (~Greedi@unaffiliated/greedi) |
| 17:32.52 | jelly-home | abailarri: oh... yes |
| 17:33.11 | *** join/#debian bwana147_ (~cbouvi@202.191.120.78.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:33.42 | *** join/#debian optraz_ (~cyzie@175.139.48.4) |
| 17:34.00 | *** join/#debian TheJH (~TheJH@wikipedia/TheJH) |
| 17:34.03 | abailarri | jelly-home, What exact command I put in lftp to initiate a connection? |
| 17:34.10 | abrotman | v4nelle: why not just have it use the same theme? |
| 17:34.54 | abailarri | jelly-home, now I put this: lftp -u ftpuser ftp.domani.com |
| 17:34.57 | *** join/#debian pagur0 (~pagur0@93.148.249.34) |
| 17:34.58 | abailarri | and the pass |
| 17:35.12 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@2001:718:2:21:7c75:2680:50de:fad) |
| 17:35.35 | *** join/#debian d_arcy (~Day_dream@145.229.185.80.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:35.57 | v4nelle | abrotman, i cant select bbstyle theme on gnome...i can select it via lxappearance only |
| 17:36.04 | zykotick9 | gnat_x: are you using kvm or xen? if it's kvm you might want to veryify the "-rtc base=utc|localtime" setting perhaps? just a shot in the dark... good luck. |
| 17:36.35 | abrotman | v4nelle: gnome or gtk theme? |
| 17:36.40 | *** join/#debian bob_p_ (~robertpie@c-67-160-200-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:36.49 | v4nelle | gtk theme |
| 17:37.10 | v4nelle | and gnome-settings-daemon override it with adwaita |
| 17:37.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1282] by debhelper |
| 17:39.24 | cardiel | im trying to install opera in testing but after i added the repo, i get an error like this "http://deb.opera.com testing Release (expected testing but got stable)"... will something break if install opera? |
| 17:41.05 | *** join/#debian ShaggyTwoDope (~shaggytwo@c-71-197-99-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:41.47 | *** join/#debian sv0 (~sv@194.146.139.14) |
| 17:42.05 | gnat_x | Oste_Hovel: phpinfo says a lot... but the server language server REQUEST_TIME both look right to me. |
| 17:42.17 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-121-217-116-97.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 17:42.17 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 17:42.25 | gnat_x | zykotick9: sadly xen. |
| 17:43.08 | *** join/#debian ManateeLazyCat (~user@119.96.1.65) |
| 17:43.32 | *** join/#debian gturner (~gturner@cl-350.phx-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 17:43.33 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 17:43.38 | *** join/#debian malpas (~al@3.Red-88-26-237.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:43.45 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.192.39) |
| 17:46.02 | *** join/#debian kalohu (~kalo@host-93-92-63-026.comunique.hu) |
| 17:46.36 | abrotman | v4nelle: i'd imagine there's a way to have it share teh same setting |
| 17:47.03 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-3-62.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 17:47.44 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 17:48.48 | *** join/#debian boratynski (~root@80.50.228.98) |
| 17:49.24 | abailarri | jelly-home, I tried with this and it not does work: lftp ftps://myftpuser@ftp.domain.com |
| 17:49.25 | *** join/#debian intore (~intore@93-39-99-217.ip75.fastwebnet.it) |
| 17:49.54 | *** join/#debian donkdonk (~donkdonk@2001:4800:7810:512:2fd4:6b25:ff04:9fbd) |
| 17:50.01 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-3-62.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 17:51.02 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@eth3.bismuth.canonical.com) |
| 17:51.40 | *** part/#debian boratynski (~root@80.50.228.98) |
| 17:51.56 | donkdonk | I hate to be that guy but any ETA for Wheezy? |
| 17:53.00 | Sm0ke0ut | nope |
| 17:53.16 | Sm0ke0ut | though an ETA has never been given afaik |
| 17:53.54 | donkdonk | Sm0ke0ut: yea, i know. was just hoping someone could say "fore sure after January" |
| 17:53.59 | *** join/#debian syssi_ (~syssi@unaffiliated/syssi) |
| 17:54.04 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@dab-crx1-h-36-9.dab.02.net) |
| 17:54.40 | somiaj | donkdonk: when it's ready, you can keep an eye on the rc bugs |
| 17:54.41 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@2001:718:2:21:7c75:2680:50de:fad) |
| 17:54.43 | gnat_x | i think the standard answer is "when all release critical bugs are closed." but that's not a date. |
| 17:55.10 | somiaj | when they annouce a date it will be only a week or two before the release |
| 17:55.12 | donkdonk | where is the bug tracker at? |
| 17:55.18 | somiaj | donkdonk: /msg dpkg rc bugs |
| 17:56.32 | donkdonk | thanks a ton for the info everyone |
| 17:56.44 | *** join/#debian smileee (~chatzilla@wikipedia/Smile4ever) |
| 17:56.55 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@e179017011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:59.06 | *** join/#debian BackEndCoder (~steve@77.75.105.75) |
| 17:59.13 | *** join/#debian user\ (~user@c1DC38BC3.dhcp.as2116.net) |
| 17:59.26 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@37-251-47-5.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 18:00.21 | *** join/#debian v4nelle (~van@46-198-15-227.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 18:02.28 | *** join/#debian kitajski (~kitaiskii@200.127.95.128) |
| 18:02.33 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@188.49.54.164) |
| 18:02.34 | *** join/#debian linkedinyou (~Hasib@unaffiliated/linkedinyou) |
| 18:02.35 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 18:03.34 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 18:04.50 | *** join/#debian ksuhku (~ksuhku@193-64-22-27-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 18:05.20 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1387.ams-04.nl.sixxs.net) |
| 18:06.16 | *** join/#debian sh4r3m4n (~sh4r3m4n@190.244.80.191) |
| 18:06.45 | *** join/#debian junix659 (~ameyer@24-171-122-131.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 18:08.20 | sh4r3m4n | hi, i have debian squeeze and i cant make wireless work. i have a Realtek 8103EL and a usb tp-link wn722n |
| 18:09.35 | *** part/#debian donkdonk (~donkdonk@2001:4800:7810:512:2fd4:6b25:ff04:9fbd) |
| 18:10.05 | movl | sh4r3m4n, what steps have you tried? |
| 18:10.39 | sh4r3m4n | i have installed wireless-tools, the non-free drivers and some other packages |
| 18:10.59 | movl | like what? please be as specific as possible |
| 18:11.50 | jackbrown | is there anyone able to help me with a TFTP server ? |
| 18:13.33 | sh4r3m4n | i installed wireless-tools, module-assistant and firmware-atheros |
| 18:13.34 | ksk | jackbrown: you should ask your question first |
| 18:13.44 | Oste_Hovel | jackbrown: Please explain your problem then we take a look |
| 18:13.47 | LoRez | jackbrown: you should also not spam your question across the network |
| 18:14.16 | movl | sh4r3m4n, after installing all this, did you reboot? |
| 18:14.26 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-124-178-142-133.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 18:14.33 | sh4r3m4n | yes |
| 18:14.34 | *** join/#debian SubjectOne (section1@78-22-166-21.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:14.59 | sh4r3m4n | i dont have the wlan0 or wlan1 interfaces |
| 18:15.01 | movl | sh4r3m4n, good, now what does /sbin/ifconfig -a say? |
| 18:15.05 | movl | :) |
| 18:15.18 | *** join/#debian son_ander (~user@h234.111.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 18:15.27 | jackbrown | ksk Oste_Hovel LordDeath I just set a TFTP server into a Virtual Windows XP Virtual MAchine and I'm trying to get files from my Linux even if client and server are able to see each other the trasfer doesn't start |
| 18:15.41 | jackbrown | ksk: Oste_Hovel LoRez any suggestion ? |
| 18:16.06 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~alex@187.149.169.96) |
| 18:16.07 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFFC83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:16.09 | *** join/#debian Horriblist (~irssi@216.70.85.114) |
| 18:16.10 | movl | sh4r3m4n, the Realtek is Ethernet, for starters |
| 18:16.18 | Horriblist | hai frienz |
| 18:16.27 | Horriblist | hapy nu yer! |
| 18:16.38 | movl | sh4r3m4n, as in wired Ethernet |
| 18:16.40 | Oste_Hovel | jackbrown: What kind of TFTP server are you using? and what kind of TFTP client are you using on Windows? |
| 18:17.04 | Oste_Hovel | Why dont you use SSH/SFTP insted of TFTP since TFTP is today only used for PXE (network booting) |
| 18:17.10 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 18:17.20 | jackbrown | Oste_Hovel: Windows has the server and linux the client the server is Tfpd32 the client on linux is ATFTP |
| 18:17.46 | ksk | jackbrown: there is no need to highlight me. if im able to provide a suggestion i will do so by myself ;) |
| 18:17.50 | jackbrown | Oste_Hovel: on Windows I even tried SolarWind TFT server but I got the same result |
| 18:17.57 | jackbrown | thanks |
| 18:18.36 | *** join/#debian xsappyx (~xsappyx@wsip-24-120-126-202.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 18:18.37 | Horriblist | why do we keep getting updates so muhc |
| 18:18.39 | Oste_Hovel | Are you gonna use this for filetransfers or you got some special purpose? |
| 18:18.43 | Horriblist | on such a stable OS |
| 18:18.48 | ksk | this is more a windows question then? i dont know atftp - if its something strangei recommenc trying it with "ncftp" or something commonly used |
| 18:18.53 | Horriblist | i hate updates |
| 18:18.55 | movl | sh4r3m4n, second, the TP-LINK doesn't seem to be supported |
| 18:19.07 | movl | someone please kill the troll |
| 18:19.07 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 18:19.23 | *** join/#debian ghost75 (~trechber@dslb-088-064-050-248.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:20.21 | *** join/#debian cortman (~cortman@ubuntu/member/cortman) |
| 18:20.24 | jackbrown | IT WAS A firewall problem |
| 18:20.53 | movl | sh4r3m4n, I was wrong: take a look here : http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc |
| 18:21.17 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 18:21.54 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-121-217-19-203.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 18:21.54 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 18:22.11 | son_ander | hello |
| 18:22.13 | gnat_x | Horriblist: what version are you runinng? |
| 18:22.26 | Horriblist | 6.0.6 |
| 18:22.54 | gnat_x | Horriblist: and you're not mixing with testing or unstable? |
| 18:22.58 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (ChangChong@c-68-35-88-96.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 18:22.58 | ghost75 | somebody using libc 2.13 ? |
| 18:23.42 | babilen | ghost75: Lots of people are, what is your real question? |
| 18:24.01 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 18:24.26 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-76.net-81-220-166.nice.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:24.36 | *** join/#debian Vin100|Home (~vincent@private.compuscene.org) |
| 18:24.46 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@host86-179-47-24.range86-179.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:25.05 | babilen | Horriblist: You might want to paste the output of "apt-cache policy" to http://paste.debian.net -- It would also help if you could quantify "so muhc" (e.g. paste your /var/log/dpkg.log*) |
| 18:26.53 | ghost75 | no question |
| 18:27.18 | movl | ghost75, just checking then? :) |
| 18:27.32 | ghost75 | it crashed my postfix |
| 18:28.02 | movl | ghost75, give us more details, a gdb backtrace, logs... |
| 18:28.17 | *** join/#debian volume_8 (~f@unaffiliated/volume-8/x-7243833) |
| 18:28.17 | Horriblist | when is debian7 coming out |
| 18:28.21 | Horriblist | hurry |
| 18:28.22 | *** join/#debian ChrisH (~dg7pc@dslb-088-077-173-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:28.22 | babilen | !wwwr |
| 18:28.23 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. Wheezy was frozen on June 30th, 2012 -- ask me about <freeze>. If you'd like wheezy to release sooner rather than later, perhaps you could help squash some <rc bugs>! |
| 18:28.49 | ghost75 | its a known bug and its recommended to downgrade libc |
| 18:29.00 | abrotman | did you compile your own postfix? |
| 18:29.07 | ghost75 | no |
| 18:29.25 | *** join/#debian wertik_thai (5f182875@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.24.40.117) |
| 18:29.27 | babilen | ghost75: You need to supply more details. Which version of Debian do you use? Which version of Postfix? How did exactly did "libc6 2.13" crash postfix? Which bug are you referring to? (link?) |
| 18:29.29 | jelly-home | who runs MTAs on testing OSes, anyway |
| 18:29.50 | ghost75 | i need to search |
| 18:30.00 | son_ander | i am using a debian (squeeze) persistent usb; after updating git, i found that my /live/cow/.wh..wh.plnk is 367MB, leaving no space on the disk. these are whiteout files? can i remove them to retreive that space? |
| 18:31.10 | *** join/#debian Vooch (~vooch@71-88-176-137.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 18:31.51 | *** join/#debian WinstonSmith (~WinstonSm@unaffiliated/winstonsmith) |
| 18:32.08 | ghost75 | but its not surprising if you run a libc from testing in sqeeze |
| 18:32.28 | Horriblist | did you guys add gnome2 to debian7 yet? |
| 18:32.38 | Horriblist | because compiz doesnt work |
| 18:32.49 | Horriblist | its all friken broken |
| 18:33.06 | Horriblist | and gnome3 is a piece of crap doo doo |
| 18:33.24 | *** join/#debian ChrisH (~dg7pc@dslb-088-077-173-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:33.26 | ghost75 | thats why i was asking who is using libc 2.13 without issues |
| 18:33.33 | pbxbrian | the sense of entitlement about open source free software amazes me sometimes. |
| 18:34.05 | *** join/#debian megharsh (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 18:34.07 | *** join/#debian hashem (~hashem@ool-457fb7cd.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:34.09 | Horriblist | then maybe you should leave it alone |
| 18:34.24 | Horriblist | before goign and braking a bunch of crap in a coke rush |
| 18:34.26 | *** join/#debian iliv (~iliv@195.88.15.2) |
| 18:34.32 | babilen | Horriblist: Gnome2 will not be in Wheezy (or any later release such as Jessie) as it has been obsoleted by upstream in favour of Gnome 3. Just use a different desktop environment and stop whining please. |
| 18:34.46 | Horriblist | :( |
| 18:34.48 | babilen | ghost75: I am using it without any issue |
| 18:34.59 | Horriblist | ok well why is compiz broken |
| 18:35.13 | ghost75 | on wheezy or squeeze? |
| 18:35.14 | babilen | Horriblist: Did you check the BTS? |
| 18:35.15 | sh4r3m4n | movl, i tried to compile the ath9k driver with compat-wireless. |
| 18:35.21 | sh4r3m4n | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/build M=/home/sh4r3m4n/compat-wireless-3.6.8-1 modules |
| 18:35.21 | sh4r3m4n | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto. |
| 18:35.21 | sh4r3m4n | make: *** [modules] Error 2 |
| 18:35.22 | sh4r3m4n | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.22 | *** kick/#debian [sh4r3m4n!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 18:35.41 | Horriblist | ok fine maybe i wont use debian anymore |
| 18:35.57 | Horriblist | hope ur hapy now |
| 18:36.02 | *** join/#debian hoffi (~user57@p5B08EF4F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:36.13 | Horriblist | thanks for ruining the worlds best OS |
| 18:36.27 | Horriblist | we had a good run |
| 18:36.33 | *** join/#debian xulf (~xulfme@adsl-76-255-194-251.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:36.45 | Towzzer | Can anyone tell me what's wrong with the syntax to this command find . -type f -exec chmod 664 '{}'\; |
| 18:37.06 | Horriblist | space |
| 18:37.12 | Horriblist | oh wait |
| 18:37.16 | Horriblist | no quotes |
| 18:37.28 | Horriblist | 664 {} \ |
| 18:37.44 | *** join/#debian derosnec (~derosnec@88.241.1.254) |
| 18:37.57 | daimrod | I think it {\} |
| 18:38.00 | daimrod | it's* |
| 18:38.01 | Horriblist | no |
| 18:38.12 | Horriblist | here is a similar comand |
| 18:38.14 | gnat_x | hrm. how do i determine if i'm in a chrooted environment. i think my php timezone issues might be related to that. |
| 18:38.15 | Horriblist | thats correct |
| 18:38.17 | Horriblist | find . -type f -exec grep -irls '' {} \; |
| 18:38.18 | ghost75 | real men dont click |
| 18:38.42 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@82.158.225.51.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 18:38.59 | Towzzer | space after {} |
| 18:39.01 | Towzzer | thanks |
| 18:39.10 | *** join/#debian sh4r3m4n (~sh4r3m4n@190.244.80.191) |
| 18:39.10 | Horriblist | so yours would be find . -type f -exec chmod 777 {} \; |
| 18:39.32 | sh4r3m4n | movl, i also copied the ath3k-1.fw and htc_9271.fw drivers to /lib/firmware |
| 18:40.05 | *** join/#debian Vaudelaire (~uru@188.27.195.210) |
| 18:40.42 | *** part/#debian Vaudelaire (~uru@188.27.195.210) |
| 18:40.45 | movl | sh4r3m4n, install the kernel headers |
| 18:40.46 | *** join/#debian vivid (~Thunderbi@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 18:41.47 | pbn | hi there, I am using ssh -Y to run apps on a target Debian machine and have them display on my machine. When the target Debian machine was runnig 6.0, no problem. But now that I the target machine is running testing "wheezy", when I ssh -Y to run for instance iceweasel, I can see the window named "Iceweasel" appear on my machine, but there's nothing in it, it's all gray, and after a few second the window closes, and I get: Warning: No xauth data; using fake au |
| 18:41.54 | pbn | Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display "localhost:10.0". |
| 18:41.57 | pbn | firefox-bin: Fatal IO error 11 (Ressource temporairement non disponible) on X server localhost:10.0. |
| 18:41.58 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@120.21.126.94) |
| 18:42.25 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-121-217-11-46.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 18:42.27 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@94.179.222.148.pool.3g.utel.ua) |
| 18:42.59 | pbn | other apps like xclock or xdaliclock work flawlessly through ssh -Y |
| 18:43.02 | *** join/#debian alkul (~alk@254.Red-83-33-84.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:43.13 | pbn | only the target machine has changed from Debian 6.0 to Debian "wheezy" |
| 18:43.50 | *** join/#debian giricz81 (~giricz81@ip-89-102-4-14.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 18:44.34 | *** join/#debian Mimiko (~Mimiko@89.28.88.177) |
| 18:44.59 | *** join/#debian dawud (~dawud@210.red-80-26-195.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 18:46.29 | *** join/#debian NcW (~NcW@190.151.71.226) |
| 18:46.38 | son_ander | should whiteout links take up so much disk space? |
| 18:48.26 | *** join/#debian Spec (~nwheeler@unaffiliated/spec) |
| 18:50.48 | *** join/#debian dlynes_laptop (~dlynes@216.185.79.50) |
| 18:51.08 | dlynes_laptop | During startup, my raid devices seem to be going down and back up again. The reason I'm saying 'seem' to be, is because i set some kernel flags for them in /sys/block/md[0-1]/..., which seem to be getting set, but then after I've finished booting up, those flags aren't set |
| 18:51.16 | dlynes_laptop | Is there somewhere in the boot process that I need to put the flag setup after? Or, is there something i'm missing? It's currently in rc.local, and waits for md0 and md1 to exist before setting those flags |
| 18:51.50 | *** join/#debian Jekyll (~whodare@114.249.213.134) |
| 18:51.54 | sh4r3m4n | movl i have executed aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686. now i have a segment violation using aptitude... |
| 18:52.17 | *** join/#debian trinathon (~deans-and@128.187.192.39) |
| 18:52.30 | *** join/#debian IsaacHaze (~opera@g77045.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 18:54.02 | *** join/#debian phenom (~L7@unaffiliated/phenom) |
| 18:55.10 | *** join/#debian DelphiWorld (~AlfajrFM@197.205.21.127) |
| 18:55.13 | DelphiWorld | hello |
| 18:55.27 | DelphiWorld | how to replace tghe default ncurses interface with readline? |
| 18:56.06 | DelphiWorld | hey babilen :) |
| 18:56.19 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-144-28.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 18:56.36 | babilen | DelphiWorld: yes? |
| 18:57.01 | sh4r3m4n | movl but i can compile xD |
| 18:57.01 | DelphiWorld | babilen: do you know how to use readline and not ncurses for like dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 18:57.11 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (~kvirc@71-35-193-101.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 18:57.20 | babilen | DelphiWorld: I am working -- Please do not highlight me unnecessarily and ask the channel |
| 18:57.32 | DelphiWorld | okay |
| 18:57.41 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d58-106-34-42.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 18:58.27 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~cra1g321@31.52.18.227) |
| 18:58.34 | DelphiWorld | anyway. someone tel me how to replace ncurses with readline for such dialog like configurations |
| 18:58.40 | addaitech | when i update i always stall at around 97-99% where would i look to see whats causing that? |
| 18:58.47 | *** join/#debian ravane (~ravane@217.129.165.171) |
| 18:58.56 | addaitech | just updating package sources i mean |
| 18:59.03 | *** join/#debian finkata (~finkata@77.85.249.254) |
| 19:00.46 | *** join/#debian nIMBVS (~nIMBVS@2a02:2f0e:3010:19:225:56ff:fe66:26d) |
| 19:00.49 | *** join/#debian megharsh (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 19:01.14 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:01.53 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 19:02.18 | *** join/#debian tom__ (~tom@S0106602ad0848210.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 19:02.39 | *** part/#debian abailarri (~abailarri@58.Red-83-54-96.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:03.14 | movl | sh4r3m4n, segfault when executing aptitude? |
| 19:03.17 | movl | :( |
| 19:03.20 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@178.16.4.252) |
| 19:03.24 | babilen | DelphiWorld: You want to set the debconf frontend to readline -- Google for those terms or read manpages |
| 19:03.32 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 19:03.35 | *** join/#debian luckman212 (~luckman21@unaffiliated/luckman212) |
| 19:03.56 | DelphiWorld | babilen: i'm doing |
| 19:04.15 | sh4r3m4n | movl yes, and got errors when making drivers... |
| 19:04.52 | *** join/#debian beardoLU (~sma310@beardo.cc.lehigh.edu) |
| 19:05.18 | movl | sh4r3m4n, does apt-get work? |
| 19:05.32 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_ (~hds@192.38.90.34) |
| 19:05.43 | *** join/#debian giricz81 (~giricz81@ip-89-102-4-14.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 19:06.18 | sh4r3m4n | no it doesnt after headers installation |
| 19:07.07 | movl | sh4r3m4n, that doesn't make sense; how about other commands like ls, cp and such? |
| 19:07.14 | *** join/#debian sasynapoli (~fortuna22@ppp-59-190.98-62.inwind.it) |
| 19:07.20 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1292] by debhelper |
| 19:07.29 | sh4r3m4n | they do work |
| 19:07.51 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@75-134-81-98.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 19:08.06 | *** join/#debian slv (~slv@c-24-91-117-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 19:08.08 | *** part/#debian sasynapoli (~fortuna22@ppp-59-190.98-62.inwind.it) |
| 19:08.34 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:08.40 | jelly-home | ghost75: mixing binary packags from different releases leads to all sort of interesting bugs. Don't do it. |
| 19:08.57 | movl | sh4r3m4n, I suggest you reinstall apt and aptitude using dpkg -i |
| 19:09.31 | *** join/#debian skorv (~skorv@217.129.165.171) |
| 19:10.04 | sh4r3m4n | where do i get the deb package? |
| 19:10.38 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFFC83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:11.21 | movl | sh4r3m4n, a mirror close to you, just use a browser |
| 19:12.07 | *** join/#debian oVeRMiND (~oVerMiND@217.129.165.171) |
| 19:12.13 | ghost75 | yes especially when the app needs libraries from testing tree |
| 19:12.16 | *** join/#debian abacus_finch (~abacusfin@pool-72-66-75-183.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:14.20 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~ZykoticK9@unaffiliated/zykotick9) |
| 19:14.45 | *** join/#debian aah (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/user54321) |
| 19:16.52 | *** join/#debian hmm (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/user54321) |
| 19:17.06 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@63.143.73.32) |
| 19:18.11 | *** part/#debian DelphiWorld (~AlfajrFM@197.205.21.127) |
| 19:19.09 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.251.109.136) |
| 19:19.13 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@97-113-115-104.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 19:19.44 | *** part/#debian sh4r3m4n (~sh4r3m4n@190.244.80.191) |
| 19:19.58 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:22.24 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-121-216-42-222.lnse1.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 19:23.25 | *** join/#debian levi501d (~th3m4d0n3@173-8-248-29-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:23.29 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~ulises11@82.158.225.51.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:26.20 | *** join/#debian nfk_ (~nfk@eab95-3-82-246-120-122.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:26.24 | *** join/#debian oVeRMiND (~oVerMiND@217.129.165.171) |
| 19:27.08 | *** join/#debian FaV1r3s (~localhost@unaffiliated/fav1r3s) |
| 19:32.00 | *** join/#debian Zerobeholder (~chatzilla@d28-23-19-255.dim.wideopenwest.com) |
| 19:33.48 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-129-163.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:34.19 | *** join/#debian jamie90234 (~pias00@206.191.57.58) |
| 19:34.50 | *** join/#debian log0ut (~meh@aenw120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:35.00 | *** join/#debian nicoulaj (~nicoulaj@pas38-5-82-244-59-208.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:36.10 | *** join/#debian ciphered (~ciphered@212.36.209.64) |
| 19:36.10 | ciphered | guys anyone using a composite analog capture device under linux, i am confused which card is compatible with linux, i need to connect to this device my iptv BOX |
| 19:37.11 | *** join/#debian pAt__ (~pAt@p508FF9E4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:37.59 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-129-163.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:39.14 | *** join/#debian AndrzejL (~AndrzejL@unaffiliated/andrzejl) |
| 19:39.59 | AndrzejL | guys one question - is there a package for 64 bit debian that install 32 bit nvidia utils so user will get 32 dri support? |
| 19:40.26 | AndrzejL | or does user needs to take care of the proprietary nvida drivers by himself as they are not in the repo at all |
| 19:41.02 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~snolan@ml160.english.arizona.edu) |
| 19:41.08 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 19:41.57 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@101.175.38.7) |
| 19:41.57 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 19:42.45 | *** join/#debian jakenl_ (~jaap@2001:980:90d6:1:21e:8cff:fe01:3479) |
| 19:42.50 | dlynes_laptop | AndrzejL, if you want nvidia to work and work well, install the proprietary drivers |
| 19:43.04 | dlynes_laptop | AndrzejL, it includes both 64-bit and 32-bit drivers in the 64-bit edition |
| 19:43.05 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~snolan@ml160.english.arizona.edu) |
| 19:43.31 | AndrzejL | indeed but they are not in debian repos right? I need to get them from nvidia's site as debian ships without them in repos? |
| 19:43.52 | *** join/#debian Shirakawasuna (~Shirakawa@184-77-202-94.war.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 19:44.30 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~snolan@ml160.english.arizona.edu) |
| 19:44.32 | AndrzejL | dlynes_laptop: thanks dude - I have a crossover user that wants to run something and he gets 32 bit dri errors even tho he installed nvidia drivers from nvidia's site any ideas? |
| 19:45.40 | *** join/#debian Ring0` (~mike@unaffiliated/ring0/x-8667941) |
| 19:45.49 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 19:45.51 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs__ (~jalal@183.83.161.68) |
| 19:46.29 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~snolan@ml160.english.arizona.edu) |
| 19:48.23 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 19:50.17 | *** join/#debian Zerobeholder (~chatzilla@d28-23-19-255.dim.wideopenwest.com) |
| 19:51.07 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@186.214.14.80) |
| 19:51.08 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 19:51.34 | *** join/#debian Nrth (pete@cpc10-nrte22-2-0-cust127.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:53.46 | *** join/#debian romain__ (~quassel@2a02-8420-649c-1400-d5fe-e59b-558e-2f40.rev.sfr.net) |
| 19:58.01 | ikla | W: GPG error: Release: the following signatures were invalid: BADSIG Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) |
| 19:58.05 | *** join/#debian Mangolian (~Wewt|Mang@193.105.7.54) |
| 19:58.07 | ikla | how do I clear that error |
| 19:59.33 | *** join/#debian operhiem1 (~operhiem1@freenet/developer/operhiem1) |
| 19:59.38 | babilen | ikla: Please paste the entire output of "apt-cache policy ; cat /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt-get update" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 19:59.51 | *** join/#debian kaie (~kaie@unaffiliated/kaie) |
| 20:00.17 | *** join/#debian qos (~qos@221.223.85.90) |
| 20:00.51 | kaie | hello. I'd like to learn which options were given to configure when building a specific debian package. Where can I find the packaging scripts? thx in advance |
| 20:01.07 | dondelelcaro | kaie: debian/rules, in general. |
| 20:01.27 | kaie | dondelelcaro, would be able to point me to some url? |
| 20:01.28 | *** join/#debian junix659 (~ameyer@24-171-122-131.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 20:01.29 | babilen | dpkg: tell kaie -about package recompile |
| 20:01.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell kaie about debian/rules |
| 20:02.29 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@101.175.4.234) |
| 20:02.47 | *** join/#debian preds (~nathan@38.105.162.11) |
| 20:03.05 | Posterdati | please I need help with wheezy and an old toshiba satellite m30x-159, I've got problem with radeon v350 (radeon 9600 m10) it won't work with radeon (not fglrx) driver |
| 20:03.53 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 20:05.06 | *** join/#debian child (~child@189-041-179-132.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 20:05.28 | kaie | thank you |
| 20:05.59 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa) |
| 20:06.27 | *** join/#debian teraflop (~teraflop@unaffiliated/teraflop) |
| 20:07.24 | dlynes_laptop | AndrzejL, No idea...but I know that with vmware you need to be running at least vmware 6...it introduced support for nvidia opengl accelerated drivers...I'm not sure about Crossover or WINE |
| 20:07.45 | teraflop | hi, cpufreq does not apply governors, allways in performance mode |
| 20:07.49 | dlynes_laptop | AndrzejL, I've never run into the problem using 32-bit native Linux applications, though |
| 20:08.17 | teraflop | AndrzejL, are you the youtuber of DEs? |
| 20:08.22 | *** join/#debian bars0 (~Name@src73-26.sarmacka.net) |
| 20:08.24 | AndrzejL | same here dlynes_laptop |
| 20:09.03 | AndrzejL | teraflop: I used to have PCLinuxOS channel if that's what youre asking about - I used to post DE videos indeed |
| 20:10.10 | teraflop | may be AndrzejL im messing with the nick, anyway good job |
| 20:10.16 | dlynes_laptop | AndrzejL, just thought of something...make sure that you have nouveau blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
| 20:11.02 | AndrzejL | some of the vids are still available here http://andrzejl.cyryl.net/PCLinuxOS/VIDEOS/Old/ but I am not making them anymore neither I am a PCLinuxOS user nor do I own youtube channel - had over 1 000 000 views o each video in 2008 / 2009 period ;) |
| 20:11.10 | dlynes_laptop | AndrzejL, could be that nouveau's interfering with your proprietary driver |
| 20:11.21 | AndrzejL | dlynes_laptop: thanks will push him to check that |
| 20:11.41 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:ecec:2161:951c:576b) |
| 20:12.22 | *** join/#debian dominusceo (~ricardo.c@148.223.177.202) |
| 20:12.38 | *** join/#debian dlynes_laptop (~dlynes@216.185.79.50) |
| 20:12.39 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@unaffiliated/yeats) |
| 20:13.02 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net) |
| 20:13.13 | GNU\colossus | Posterdati, how does it fail? |
| 20:13.42 | *** join/#debian dlynes_laptop (~dlynes@216.185.79.50) |
| 20:14.48 | *** part/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@37-251-47-5.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 20:15.12 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~john@host81-141-166-30.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 20:15.40 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@2001:718:2:21:7c75:2680:50de:fad) |
| 20:16.35 | *** join/#debian asakura0 (~asakura@gateway/tor-sasl/asakura) |
| 20:16.38 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 20:17.15 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@63.143.73.32) |
| 20:18.34 | teraflop | hi, troubles with cpufreq-set whatever, http://hpaste.org/80120 |
| 20:19.25 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 20:21.56 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-58-166-69-28.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 20:21.56 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 20:23.18 | *** join/#debian pAt__ (~pAt@p508FF9E4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:24.09 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 20:24.56 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:25.33 | *** join/#debian yakko (~quassel@c-24-131-39-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 20:26.25 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 20:26.49 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:29.11 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@187-40-105-179.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 20:29.35 | *** join/#debian soypirate (~soypirate@75.94.81.12) |
| 20:30.11 | *** join/#debian streuner (~streuner@mnhm-4d01869a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:30.20 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 20:30.37 | *** join/#debian rm-rf (~darrick@linuxutil.com) |
| 20:30.58 | *** join/#debian tom___ (~tom@S0106602ad0848210.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:31.17 | *** join/#debian sv0 (~sv@194.146.137.42) |
| 20:31.54 | *** join/#debian gihad (~gmurad@wsp05975299wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:35.28 | *** join/#debian bp (~bp@unaffiliated/bp) |
| 20:37.03 | gihad | Hey, when I use the command "dpkg -r package_name", the remove process blow away the /etc/opt/package_name folder automatically, is that supposed to happen? |
| 20:37.24 | gihad | I'm not telling it to remove that folder in my postrm script, but it is still being removed |
| 20:38.27 | *** join/#debian carnifex (~samson@dslb-088-075-141-052.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:38.37 | *** join/#debian slugga (~slugga@2604:180::f482:9c24) |
| 20:40.53 | AndrzejL | thanks dlynes_laptop I told this person to install nvidia drivers from the site and it's solved. |
| 20:40.53 | apt | AndrzejL: de rien |
| 20:40.54 | *** join/#debian rk13 (~rk13@bohr.izvne.com) |
| 20:40.59 | AndrzejL | have a great day |
| 20:41.05 | *** join/#debian kitajski (~kitaiskii@200.127.95.128) |
| 20:41.09 | *** join/#debian hjubal (~hjubal@unaffiliated/hjubal) |
| 20:41.18 | *** part/#debian AndrzejL (~AndrzejL@unaffiliated/andrzejl) |
| 20:41.39 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 20:42.01 | Posterdati | GNU\colossus: it start kdm with the greeter and the freezes the machine |
| 20:42.07 | *** join/#debian Tux (~tux@free.drugs.on.dragon-weed.net) |
| 20:42.24 | GNU\colossus | Posterdati, is the machine reachable over the network after it freezes? |
| 20:42.25 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-124-179-95-103.lns7.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 20:42.26 | Posterdati | GNU\colossus: if I started it from console, I've got a blank screen |
| 20:42.31 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 20:42.36 | *** join/#debian mrec (~markus@sundtek.de) |
| 20:42.38 | Posterdati | GNU\colossus: sometimes |
| 20:42.52 | Posterdati | GNU\colossus: sometimes I have to use Magic SysReq to reset |
| 20:42.54 | mrec | moin, weiß von euch wer wo LC_LANG definiert werden soll? |
| 20:42.56 | *** join/#debian engla (~engla@wikipedia/Sverdrup) |
| 20:43.03 | *** join/#debian Tux (~tux@tropicalwikis/Frozen-Wind) |
| 20:43.14 | GNU\colossus | Posterdati, you should get dmesg output and the X server's log if that happens, and head over to #radeon with it |
| 20:43.35 | pullphing | \part |
| 20:43.39 | *** join/#debian infinity0 (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0) |
| 20:43.42 | infinity0 | guys, any idea why /etc/init.d/ddclient doesn't exist, even though i just reinstalled that package and dpkg -L shows that file is supposed to exist? |
| 20:43.54 | *** part/#debian pullphing (~pullphing@12.40.23.68) |
| 20:43.57 | Posterdati | GNU\colossus: ok |
| 20:43.58 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.04 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@ppp-124-121-6-249.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 20:44.28 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host117-135-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:44.44 | Posterdati | GNU\colossus: anyway dmesg didn't sjow anything |
| 20:44.51 | GNU\colossus | mrec, depends on who you want to define it for |
| 20:47.21 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1299] by debhelper |
| 20:47.23 | *** join/#debian sharky2 (~sharky@p5DD55322.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:48.11 | *** join/#debian gamer1990 (~znc@unaffiliated/gamer1990) |
| 20:48.54 | gihad | why does 'dpkg -r' removes /etc/opt/app_name folder ? |
| 20:49.22 | valdyn | gihad: it doesn't |
| 20:49.27 | *** join/#debian EpolOpol (~EpolOpol@office.neteasyinc.com) |
| 20:49.40 | valdyn | !tell infinity0 -about confmiss |
| 20:50.11 | infinity0 | valdyn: thanks! |
| 20:50.13 | gihad | Somehow /etc/opt/app_name is being removed when I do 'dpkg -r' |
| 20:50.37 | valdyn | gihad: why would you think that "dpkg -r" would remove anything? |
| 20:51.09 | gihad | valdyn, because it does |
| 20:51.12 | nvz | dpkg -r isn't gonna do anything but print an error message |
| 20:51.13 | dpkg | removes isn't gonna do anything but print an error message along with a pound of flesh from nvz's body, then staples nvz back up with a staple gun. |
| 20:51.20 | EpolOpol | Debian 6.0.6 doesn't have a gui update utility for updating packages and what not anymore? |
| 20:51.22 | nvz | dpkg: piss off :-P |
| 20:51.22 | valdyn | gihad: it gives an error: "dpkg: --remove needs at least one package name argument" |
| 20:51.22 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, nvz |
| 20:51.55 | gihad | I'm sure you are smart enough to figure out that I mean 'dpkg -r [PACKAGE_NAME]' |
| 20:52.03 | *** join/#debian Leconite (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/leconite) |
| 20:52.18 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-4d01a98c.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:52.20 | nvz | just like you're apparently smart enough to solve the problem on your own since you dont want to explain it properly |
| 20:52.25 | valdyn | gihad: actually, we dont know *what* you are removing, so we cant know what gets removed |
| 20:52.42 | gihad | the package name is irrelevant to my questions |
| 20:52.48 | *** join/#debian Tarjaizaid (sylvain@unaffiliated/tarjaizaid) |
| 20:52.51 | valdyn | gihad: nope |
| 20:53.03 | nvz | installing something to /opt is against package policy so.. yeah it is relevant |
| 20:53.17 | gihad | It's a private package |
| 20:53.47 | nvz | sounds like an issue for a private package manager |
| 20:54.00 | nvz | s/manager/maintainer |
| 20:54.01 | valdyn | gihad: your directory gets removed because it was part of that package |
| 20:54.23 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:54.31 | gihad | valdyn, yeah, it's in the package structure. |
| 20:55.04 | gihad | so is there a way to make it not remove that folder? |
| 20:55.27 | nvz | don't do dpkg -r |
| 20:55.57 | valdyn | gihad: if a file is in a package then it gets removed when you remove the package |
| 20:56.16 | valdyn | gihad: the only exception are configuration files which only get removed when you purge the package |
| 20:56.33 | gihad | that's exactly what they are, config files |
| 20:56.34 | valdyn | gihad: a directory is just a special type of file too |
| 20:56.59 | gihad | How do I make the package aware that those are configuration files, so that it doesn't delete them |
| 20:57.01 | *** join/#debian bambuss (~Miranda@2001:718:2:21:7c75:2680:50de:fad) |
| 20:57.15 | valdyn | gihad: do you want them deleted on purge? |
| 20:57.17 | *** join/#debian bp (~bp@unaffiliated/bp) |
| 20:57.33 | gihad | I Would like them to be deleted on purge but not on remove |
| 20:57.47 | *** join/#debian Owner (~Owner@gateway/tor-sasl/owner) |
| 20:58.06 | Owner | why does apt slurp all of stdin before exiting? |
| 20:58.39 | Owner | so like if you are apt-get installing and type a command to run after it, it wont run....like every other application EVER in linux will run the second command when the first command finishes |
| 20:59.33 | nvz | Owner: that works, just depends on what steps occur after that.. certain post-install tasks will slurp as you say |
| 21:00.08 | Owner | ah, yes apt-get update will not slurp |
| 21:00.13 | Owner | i dont think any of them should |
| 21:00.19 | Owner | oh unless they are prompting |
| 21:00.25 | dondelelcaro | Owner: that only works if a process doesn't read from stdin at all |
| 21:00.27 | Owner | hmm...i see |
| 21:00.53 | valdyn | gihad: 10.7 at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html |
| 21:00.56 | Owner | i assume then that if i passed some default -Y (YES) to all prompts |
| 21:01.06 | *** join/#debian nnn (~i@2001:0:53aa:64c:3c46:78f8:a6e8:eeff) |
| 21:01.07 | Owner | then the post-install scripts would not slurp |
| 21:01.15 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:01.34 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@freebsd/user/dzup) |
| 21:01.42 | *** join/#debian crawler (~crawler@46.240.145.236) |
| 21:01.43 | Owner | i'd think that should be the way it is, but i guess i wont sweat it, i just wont expect this to work with apt |
| 21:02.13 | *** join/#debian guampa_ (~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa) |
| 21:02.16 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@c-98-192-96-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 21:02.17 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@unaffiliated/yeats) |
| 21:02.20 | *** join/#debian Zerobeholder (~chatzilla@d28-23-19-255.dim.wideopenwest.com) |
| 21:02.37 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:04.24 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:04.26 | gihad | valdyn, thanks |
| 21:05.20 | gihad | For anyone interested debian packages can contain a 'conffiles' file, which lists config files |
| 21:05.26 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~i@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 21:05.29 | gihad | so that they are treated differently by dpkg |
| 21:07.56 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 21:09.23 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host107-136-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:09.38 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:10.02 | *** join/#debian tomoprime (~tomoprime@ool-1826cbb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:12.41 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host242-193-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:16.33 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 21:18.45 | *** join/#debian mdasoh_ (~mdasoh@253-175-174-206.cust.wirelessbeehive.com) |
| 21:19.38 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-69-253-114-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 21:20.08 | *** join/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@63-145-229-42.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 21:21.33 | *** join/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@37-251-47-5.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 21:21.34 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 21:21.42 | *** part/#debian sandwitch (~sandwitch@37-251-47-5.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 21:22.10 | *** join/#debian gamer1990 (~znc@unaffiliated/gamer1990) |
| 21:22.29 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:23.02 | *** join/#debian monkeyhybrid (~monkeyhyb@unaffiliated/monkeyhybrid) |
| 21:23.37 | *** join/#debian Dreadtower (~robin@host86-176-193-165.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:23.52 | *** join/#debian mecca (mecca@binaryhaze.com) |
| 21:24.22 | *** join/#debian ToeTag (~snolan@ml160.english.arizona.edu) |
| 21:24.50 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:28.39 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@216.Red-83-40-29.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:30.00 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 21:30.02 | *** join/#debian salah (~salah@adsl196-159-6-217-196.adsl196-9.iam.net.ma) |
| 21:30.13 | jhutchins_wk | gihad: I believe that that is a requirement. |
| 21:30.22 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~alex@187.149.169.96) |
| 21:31.32 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@2a01:e34:ee54:8ae0:e5a7:20a:8cf3:c28f) |
| 21:32.02 | gihad | jhutchins_wk, the conffiles file is not technically required to be present in a debian package |
| 21:34.21 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-5f74df59.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:34.52 | Apachez | Linus Thorvalds tells kernel developer a merry xmas ;) https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 |
| 21:34.54 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@c-4f664a7d-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 21:35.16 | *** join/#debian calbasi (~joan@14.66.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 21:36.53 | jhutchins_wk | gihad: I thought that if there were configuration files they were required to be identified. |
| 21:37.11 | jhutchins_wk | gihad: Similarly I believe doc files are (that may be rpm). |
| 21:37.57 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:38.10 | *** join/#debian antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) |
| 21:38.30 | *** join/#debian Wewt (~Wewt|Mang@193.105.7.54) |
| 21:40.21 | d_arcy | Apachez: Thor-valds could be a nice middle name |
| 21:40.30 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 21:40.42 | *** join/#debian boven (~boven@c-4f664a7d-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 21:41.05 | EpolOpol | In Squeeze how do I manually remove items from the aptitude repository list? I need to remove the cdrom stuff |
| 21:41.20 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip.ba@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 21:41.24 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 21:41.42 | antiwire | EpolOpol: just comment out those lines in /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 21:41.50 | EpolOpol | antiwire: thanks |
| 21:42.04 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-58-164-24-34.lnse5.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 21:43.02 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 21:43.06 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@84-72-26-206.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:43.28 | *** join/#debian kveroneau (~kveroneau@out-on-196.wireless.telus.com) |
| 21:43.45 | gihad | I found a small bug with dpkg, if it doesn't find a new line character after a conffile line in the conffiles file, it errors out and outputs an incorrect error message. |
| 21:44.12 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 21:44.18 | *** join/#debian unik (~unik@79.107.217.100) |
| 21:45.37 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@2a01:e34:ee54:8ae0:e5a7:20a:8cf3:c28f) |
| 21:45.40 | *** join/#debian bagulhex (~ohqwdpm@187.59.86.34) |
| 21:45.58 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d58-106-1-209.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:47.44 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.) |
| 21:47.51 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 21:47.57 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@unaffiliated/yeats) |
| 21:47.58 | unik | im want the command 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 mtu 1280' be excecuted on each session start. since it's about network i suppose this must be done afte the network interfaces are on but i dont know how to do that (i have lmde with xfce) |
| 21:51.49 | boudiccas | Owner: apt-get install foo && apt-get remove fooplusone |
| 21:52.01 | *** join/#debian tgs3 (~tgs3@91.228.196.24) |
| 21:52.10 | gnat_x | unik: you may want to just add something to the ifup script. |
| 21:52.19 | boudiccas | unik: sorry, we dont support linux mint debian here, ask in their support channels |
| 21:52.30 | boudiccas | !lmde |
| 21:52.30 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 21:52.35 | *** join/#debian mr0wl (~quassel@unaffiliated/mr0wl) |
| 21:52.44 | *** part/#debian ghost75 (~trechber@dslb-088-064-050-248.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:53.08 | tgs3 | doing system reinstall; how to re-create all users on new system with same uid/gid/password/home/shell ? |
| 21:53.22 | *** join/#debian Gerben_ (~Gerben@5ED7316D.cm-7-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 21:53.28 | *** join/#debian RougeR (~RougeR@81-20-176-239.dsl0.newtelsolutions.net) |
| 21:53.38 | gnat_x | how do i check if i (or another user) is running in a chroot'ed environment? |
| 21:54.19 | *** join/#debian simone__ (~simone@host157-136-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:54.21 | gnat_x | or actually, more specifically, i suspect php5 might be running in some weird chroot'ed config, but i'm not sure how to confirm. |
| 21:56.09 | *** join/#debian qriocity (~craigcoch@blk-222-131-219.eastlink.ca) |
| 21:56.31 | Owner | gnat_x: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-chroot-service.html |
| 21:56.34 | *** join/#debian Jswing (~jswing@21.87.2.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 21:56.42 | unik | gnat_x: i just googled ifup script i think i can make it from here thnx |
| 21:57.32 | *** join/#debian cafaro (~tman@unaffiliated/cafaro) |
| 21:57.39 | *** join/#debian Ikarus (~ikarus@ip51cdc735.speed.planet.nl) |
| 21:57.59 | qriocity | hey guys, I'm trying to boot from backtrack live cd on my acer 64-bit laptop. The laptop boots from the hard drive to windows 64-bit no problem. The hard drive boots WinPE from a cd no problem. When I boot from both Backtrack 5 R3 64-bit & 32-bit it gets to the boot menu and just shuts off. I was able to boot from BT4...any ideas?? |
| 21:58.14 | unik | boudiccas: I prefer debian people. only stuck with lmde because i had laptop hardware issues |
| 21:58.32 | *** join/#debian EpolOpol_ (~EpolOpol@office.neteasyinc.com) |
| 21:58.40 | boudiccas | unik: sorry, though its channel policy no to support lmde |
| 21:58.50 | *** join/#debian chaispaquichui (~gudule_bo@205.130-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 21:59.05 | unik | boudiccas: i thought it was an open community. no? |
| 21:59.24 | unik | any way thmnx again |
| 21:59.27 | boudiccas | unik: maybe those hardware issues would go with using wheezy? |
| 22:00.31 | unik | boudiccas: i believe a more experienced user can handle them all but its hard for me some times |
| 22:01.01 | boudiccas | unik: fair enough. i'm using wheezy with few problems for the last 3 months |
| 22:01.36 | HardDisk_WP | i'm trying to setup pam-mysql - login works fine but passwd gives error passwd: Authentication token manipulation error |
| 22:01.45 | *** part/#debian chaispaquichui (~gudule_bo@205.130-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 22:01.55 | HardDisk_WP | i'm dead sure I missed something in the pam.d - what could it be? |
| 22:02.06 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 22:02.19 | unik | boudiccas: well now that found how to disable the second graphic card maybe i give another try :) |
| 22:03.17 | boudiccas | unik: if you want support for wheezy before its released , then go to irc.oft.net and #debian-next |
| 22:03.40 | boudiccas | unik: its good and i recommend it |
| 22:06.02 | unik | boudiccas: i will thnx |
| 22:06.14 | boudiccas | unik: you're welcome |
| 22:06.35 | *** join/#debian frikinz (~frikinz@quinput.org) |
| 22:07.06 | *** join/#debian Will_Tampa (~kvirc@cpe-24-160-88-157.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 22:09.46 | *** join/#debian jemadux (~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux) |
| 22:09.56 | kveroneau | qriocity, I believe your question will be best answered in #backtrack-linux |
| 22:09.58 | gnat_x | Owner: thanks! that's a neat trick, and it worked like a charm. |
| 22:09.59 | *** join/#debian asulil (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:10.07 | gnat_x | sadly didn't solve my problem. |
| 22:10.13 | gnat_x | but good stuff. |
| 22:10.40 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@xdsl-213-196-253-62.netcologne.de) |
| 22:10.48 | *** join/#debian aahmedak (~chatzilla@234.Red-193-153-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:11.01 | *** join/#debian larseberhart (~larseberh@77.117.247.32.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 22:11.31 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@63.143.73.32) |
| 22:12.04 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@S0106000393e2a2bd.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 22:12.23 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Speed@5ac89fb3.bb.sky.com) |
| 22:13.16 | *** part/#debian aahmedak (~chatzilla@234.Red-193-153-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:13.28 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-590e76f4.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:13.52 | *** part/#debian Ephemeris959 (~binny@199.6.29.254) |
| 22:14.45 | *** join/#debian karmis (889fba04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.136.159.186.4) |
| 22:14.55 | karmis | I need a very high quality thin and light notebook. |
| 22:14.59 | karmis | I like the look of the X1 carbon Thinkpad |
| 22:15.02 | karmis | but I've read it has a "screen door" effect. |
| 22:15.04 | karmis | How serious a concern is this? |
| 22:15.29 | karmis | Alternatively, am I wasting my money if I pick up a netbook for ~$200? I found the keyboards really flimsy. |
| 22:15.34 | karmis | The X1 has a beautiful keyboard. |
| 22:15.39 | *** join/#debian war9407 (war@c-71-62-63-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:15.57 | RougeR | x2XX series are good |
| 22:16.15 | RougeR | can reburish one for cheap |
| 22:16.17 | peterrooney | wonders how he accidentally typed /join #debian-offtopic |
| 22:16.36 | karmis | ---Continued in offtopic. |
| 22:16.38 | karmis | See you there. |
| 22:16.57 | *** join/#debian kakkio (~kakkio@host217-93-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:17.10 | kakkio | hey what's happend to the ttys ? |
| 22:17.34 | kakkio | tty2,tty3 : "Debian 7.0" |
| 22:17.53 | kakkio | tty4, tty5, tty6: "Debian wheezy/sid" |
| 22:17.55 | *** join/#debian hashem (~hashem@ool-457fb7cd.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:17.55 | kakkio | ? |
| 22:18.06 | kveroneau | kakkio, I'm sure they are there. If not, you can re-add them via your inittab easily. |
| 22:18.40 | kakkio | did something changed in debian in the last 10 days ? |
| 22:19.12 | kakkio | kveroneau: the 'title' of the ttys was "debian wheezy/sid" on 23 december. |
| 22:19.23 | kakkio | right now i've noticed it has changed |
| 22:20.18 | kveroneau | kakkio, I use Squeeze, you should head over to #debian-next channel for support on Wheezy/sid. Different IRC server tho: irc.debian.org |
| 22:20.41 | kveroneau | kakkio, I can pastebin my inittab which you can use to patch yours to re-enable those ttys. |
| 22:21.15 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@177.158.102.82) |
| 22:21.39 | *** join/#debian driiper (54302c99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.48.44.153) |
| 22:21.47 | kakkio | kveroneau: tty works good. i only would like to know what has changed (new debian release? wheezy is now stable maybe? ) |
| 22:21.59 | kveroneau | kakkio, here is the debian squeeze inittab for reference on what should be there: http://paste.debian.net/221189/ |
| 22:22.23 | driiper | Hello! Do anyone know how i could install Gnome2 on squeeze without getting all that crap extras (Aka only get the shell. there is no package called gnome-shell in squeeze) |
| 22:22.39 | kveroneau | kakkio, Nope Squeeze is still stable... I can't wait for the wheezy release tho. |
| 22:22.39 | *** join/#debian Skilz_ (~skilz@CPE-121-217-161-123.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:22.51 | kakkio | why does debian wheezy was called 'debian wheezy' until ~10 days ago and now the name has changed to 'debian 7.0' ? |
| 22:23.26 | driiper | While there is in Debian Wheezy :/ |
| 22:23.33 | kveroneau | kakkio, perhaps Debian is taking something from the Microsoft playbook and going back to using numbers. |
| 22:25.59 | *** join/#debian asulil (~winsen@pas75-4-88-176-17-102.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:26.19 | *** join/#debian abuis (~abuis@ip-81-11-175-201.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 22:26.47 | Apachez | so is debian7 finally released or not? |
| 22:27.17 | ompaul | Apachez: not |
| 22:27.19 | Sm0ke0ut | no |
| 22:27.22 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1290] by debhelper |
| 22:27.44 | Apachez | ill bet it will the day after I install this server with ubuntu 12.04LTS :S |
| 22:28.35 | Sm0ke0ut | nice comparison... |
| 22:28.47 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:28.48 | ompaul | Apachez: so you are not installing this week then |
| 22:28.55 | Sm0ke0ut | just install wheezy if you want it so badly :) |
| 22:30.34 | kakkio | Apachez: boh?! |
| 22:30.34 | kakkio | my laptop uptime is ~12 days. the untouched ttys start like this "Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid" |
| 22:30.48 | *** join/#debian b0ss_ (b0ss_@186.222.107.22) |
| 22:30.48 | kakkio | but the new ttys (after a tty logout) start like this "Debian GNU/Linux 7.0" |
| 22:31.46 | kveroneau | How long will old Debian releases be preserved in http://archive.debian.org/ before finally being removed? |
| 22:31.57 | Towzzer | kakkio, cat /etc/motd |
| 22:32.10 | jhutchins_wk | kveroneau: How old is the oldest one there now? |
| 22:32.13 | Sm0ke0ut | out of my head I think about a year.. not sure though |
| 22:32.25 | jhutchins_wk | Sm0ke0ut: Longer. |
| 22:32.26 | kveroneau | It looks like 0.9R6 |
| 22:32.30 | frikinz | about a year? I'm still fetching woody stuff |
| 22:32.37 | Sm0ke0ut | oh, sorry read it wrong :) |
| 22:32.42 | Sm0ke0ut | permanently I guess then ;) |
| 22:32.50 | kakkio | Towzzer: it doesnt contain the tty motd |
| 22:32.55 | kveroneau | frikinz, woody is much older than a year. |
| 22:33.05 | peterrooney | kveroneau: what do you believe 'archive' means? |
| 22:33.06 | *** join/#debian mtn (~Dan@174.32.161.37) |
| 22:33.18 | frikinz | kveroneau: hence my message |
| 22:33.46 | kveroneau | Nice, so there is no plans of deleting any of the older Debian versions. Awesome! |
| 22:34.05 | jhutchins_wk | There's a chance someone will get all fanatical like they did about killing lenny, and delete the older ones, but so far they're good. |
| 22:34.06 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host218.181-14-255.telecom.net.ar) |
| 22:34.06 | frikinz | Debian!=Apple |
| 22:34.42 | jhutchins_wk | kveroneau: Doesn't mean it'll never happen, but we know of no plans at this time. Safest way to be sure is to make your own mirror. |
| 22:34.45 | kveroneau | I am thinking of building a few historic VDI images for VirtualBox using older Debian versions. |
| 22:35.14 | jhutchins_wk | I really wish I'd mirrored debian-multimedia.org's lenny repo. |
| 22:35.21 | Sm0ke0ut | requires a lot of diskspace though =) |
| 22:35.34 | jhutchins_wk | Sm0ke0ut: Meh - disk space gets cheaper all the time. |
| 22:35.45 | kveroneau | I used to have a CD-set of Debian woody. |
| 22:35.54 | Sm0ke0ut | for consumers, sure :) |
| 22:36.15 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 22:36.17 | kveroneau | Is there any online Linux DVD sellers who will archive older versions of Debian to DVD for you? |
| 22:36.50 | kveroneau | I'd love to collect all the older versions for "collector" purposes, to show how much Debian and Linux in general has progressed throughout the years. |
| 22:37.20 | Sm0ke0ut | afraid not |
| 22:37.22 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1284] by debhelper |
| 22:38.04 | kveroneau | Sm0ke0ut, I know I can get the current debian version on DVD-sets mailed to me. |
| 22:38.24 | kakkio | jhutchins_wk: did something changed in debian (at relase-level) in the last 10 days? my tty "welcome message" (before the login) has changed from "Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid" to "Debian GNU/Linux 7.0" . Now i have some unused ttys (3-6) with the old message and the used ones (1,2) with the new one when i logout. |
| 22:38.24 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-3-62.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 22:38.42 | *** join/#debian Areckx (~Areckx@c-67-174-227-105.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:38.52 | kveroneau | I recall Woody being like 24 CDs or something, but it included everything. |
| 22:39.05 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 22:39.45 | kveroneau | Hmmm, can a current-gen Debian CD-set generator create DVDs for an older Debian distro, or will it be incompatible due to the changes in Debian? |
| 22:40.00 | *** join/#debian MMavipc (MMavipc@ip72-197-243-193.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 22:40.23 | kveroneau | I think I used jigdo once to generate a CD-set, but not sure if it can generate CD-sets for older versions of Debian anymore. |
| 22:40.31 | *** join/#debian larseberhart (~larseberh@77.117.247.32.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 22:40.44 | Sm0ke0ut | are you looking for ISO's or "real discs"? |
| 22:40.48 | *** part/#debian MMavipc (MMavipc@ip72-197-243-193.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 22:41.13 | *** part/#debian frikinz (~frikinz@quinput.org) |
| 22:41.36 | kveroneau | Sm0ke0ut, preferably real discs, but ISOs should be good enough(although more work on my part to obtain). |
| 22:42.07 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@CPE-121-218-232-33.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:42.08 | *** join/#debian Skilz (~skilz@unaffiliated/skilz) |
| 22:43.20 | *** join/#debian abuis (~abuis@ip-81-11-175-201.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 22:43.25 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-3-62.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 22:44.01 | *** join/#debian meLon (~meLon@unaffiliated/earthmelon) |
| 22:44.17 | kakkio | is debian 7.0 the same as wheezy ? or is it better= |
| 22:44.18 | kakkio | ? |
| 22:44.56 | Sm0ke0ut | "7.0" is wheezy |
| 22:45.08 | kakkio | ah |
| 22:45.09 | peterrooney | kakkio: 7.0 shall be the release number for wheezy, wheezy is still undergoing testing |
| 22:45.11 | mtn | kakkio, of course it is better |
| 22:45.20 | *** join/#debian relipse (~relipse@99-100-13-133.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:45.26 | Sm0ke0ut | oldest release I can find/download is 4/etch @ kveroneau |
| 22:45.27 | peterrooney | dpkg: when will wheezy release |
| 22:45.27 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. Wheezy was frozen on June 30th, 2012 -- ask me about <freeze>. If you'd like wheezy to release sooner rather than later, perhaps you could help squash some <rc bugs>! |
| 22:45.45 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@151.95.80.50) |
| 22:45.45 | *** join/#debian DeusEx (~DeusEx@unaffiliated/deusex) |
| 22:45.59 | kakkio | wonder why the name has changed from "debian wheezy/sid" to "debian 7.0" , in the ttys message . o.O |
| 22:46.10 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:46.16 | Sm0ke0ut | preparation? |
| 22:46.21 | dondelelcaro | kakkio: that happens as we get closer to release |
| 22:46.25 | jhutchins_wk | Oops. |
| 22:46.29 | *** part/#debian log0ut (~meh@aenw120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:46.45 | jhutchins_wk | Could someone tell me how to add this repo to my sources.list for lenny i386? http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/debian-multimedia/dists/lenny/ |
| 22:46.54 | kakkio | dondelelcaro: ah, ok. this make sense. thank you :) |
| 22:47.10 | dondelelcaro | Sm0ke0ut: older releases are on archive.debian.org |
| 22:47.22 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1278] by debhelper |
| 22:47.26 | Sm0ke0ut | incl ISO's? :) |
| 22:47.40 | peterrooney | Sm0ke0ut: No ISOs |
| 22:47.42 | dondelelcaro | Sm0ke0ut: not all of them, but you don't need them. |
| 22:48.02 | Sm0ke0ut | that's where it was for (not for me btw, I was looking around for kveroneau) |
| 22:48.34 | dondelelcaro | (and most of the really early versions use boot floppies anyway) |
| 22:49.01 | *** join/#debian lowstz (~lowstz@202.103.141.14) |
| 22:51.04 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (~streuner@mnhm-590e7cb4.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:51.28 | kveroneau | Sm0ke0ut, I am sure if I could at least install a woody system in VirtualBox, I can use the included tools with Woody at the time to generate a CD/DVD set of the repo. Woody is the earliest I want to go. Any idea how to obtain a woody installer? |
| 22:52.05 | kveroneau | Would debootstrap allow woody to install? |
| 22:53.15 | Sm0ke0ut | http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ found a mirror with the ISO's :) |
| 22:53.36 | *** part/#debian larseberhart (~larseberh@77.117.247.32.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 22:53.52 | jhutchins_wk | Got it, you want the folder above "dists". |
| 22:54.03 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.61.246) |
| 22:54.12 | *** join/#debian Shadowcat (~shadowcat@h175n5-sbg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 22:54.54 | kveroneau | Sm0ke0ut, awesome! With this, another idea is build an online "Debian museum", where people can easily explore Debians past and even download a VDI for VirtualBox to easily test-drive how Debian was in that era. |
| 22:55.05 | JBzh | I'm confused reading http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually, "DNS configuration for network-manager" part. |
| 22:55.49 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@187.113.121.235) |
| 22:56.07 | JBzh | there is, as written in the doc, no ifcfg-* files (find /etc -iname ifcfg => nothing) |
| 22:56.18 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-114.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:56.48 | JBzh | but I still would like to use NetworkManager for some tests |
| 22:57.09 | *** join/#debian Tree_Hugger (~Tree_Hugg@75-166-153-243.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 22:57.22 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1272] by debhelper |
| 22:57.25 | JBzh | do I create the /etc/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 files ? |
| 22:58.36 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@76.10.176.50) |
| 22:58.36 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 22:59.10 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 23:00.37 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@199.47.52.87) |
| 23:01.22 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 23:04.18 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFFC83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:04.35 | *** join/#debian redarrow_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) |
| 23:04.39 | *** join/#debian EpolOpol__ (~EpolOpol@office.neteasyinc.com) |
| 23:05.33 | *** join/#debian unik (~unik@79.107.217.100) |
| 23:05.41 | *** join/#debian user485763 (~aoeu@220.90.190.114) |
| 23:06.14 | *** join/#debian cryptic (~cryptic@pool-71-125-31-38.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:06.16 | driiper | Hello! Do anyone know how i could install Gnome2 on squeeze without getting all that crap extras (Aka only get the shell. there is no package called gnome-shell in squeeze) |
| 23:06.53 | *** join/#debian kisisten (~magyar@76.10.176.50) |
| 23:07.12 | unik | boudiccas: do you mind tell me again the wheeze channel you recomended? (I lost the buffer:/) |
| 23:07.39 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (~streuner@mnhm-590e5c1e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 23:08.02 | kveroneau | driiper, I believe the shell itself it called "nautilus", you should start here. |
| 23:08.24 | driiper | hmm. i will take a look at it. Thanks! |
| 23:08.25 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5ddffc83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:09.09 | *** join/#debian kai__ (~kai@93.125.49.8) |
| 23:09.16 | *** part/#debian teraflop (~teraflop@unaffiliated/teraflop) |
| 23:09.29 | HardDisk_WP | i'm trying to do some sed-replacing in a conffile, but it doesnt work |
| 23:09.30 | HardDisk_WP | sed -i "s/^passwd\\:[ \t]compat\$/passwd: compat mysql/" /etc/nsswitch.c |
| 23:09.48 | HardDisk_WP | the line is "passwd: compat |
| 23:09.48 | HardDisk_WP | ", so it should work, but it doesnt |
| 23:10.55 | HardDisk_WP | ah forget it. I forgot the * after the character-class. |
| 23:10.56 | *** part/#debian kai__ (~kai@93.125.49.8) |
| 23:11.27 | JBzh | unik: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net network) . It's in the topic of the channel. |
| 23:12.37 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~BOOYEA@5ED7BD2B.cm-7-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 23:12.47 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p5DDFFC83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:13.55 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host82-179-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:14.04 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~smuxi@chello213047121188.26.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 23:14.20 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@net241-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 23:15.38 | JBzh | ok, now my eth0 is manually configured, and NetworkManager sees it, everything works including DNS. I just have 2 times "Wired connection 1" in the NetworkManager GUI menu |
| 23:16.34 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.61.246) |
| 23:16.43 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.186.74) |
| 23:17.22 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1261] by debhelper |
| 23:17.58 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Speed@5ac89fb3.bb.sky.com) |
| 23:18.28 | JBzh | er.. no modifications, I "service network-manager restart" once again, now I have "Wired connection 1" and "ifupdown (eth0)" in the NetworkManager GUI, strange. |
| 23:19.04 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 23:19.43 | *** join/#debian floe_ (~flo@e179007185.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:19.48 | cardamon | kveroneau: driiper: That's the file manager. What you want to look at is what the virtual packages and the tasksel for Gnome actually install. That'll tell you what you want. |
| 23:20.00 | *** join/#debian addaitech (~lennox@2001:5c0:1000:a::60d) |
| 23:20.49 | driiper | cardamon: thanks ill look at it! |
| 23:22.10 | driiper | cardamon: atm im trying to install somtging called gnome-core |
| 23:22.19 | driiper | but that is probably just as bloat as gnome ... |
| 23:24.12 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben@121-72-169-232.dsl.telstraclear.net) |
| 23:24.12 | *** join/#debian a111 (~a111a111@host-78-145-86-216.as13285.net) |
| 23:26.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | driiper, try "apt-cache show gnome-core" |
| 23:27.18 | *** join/#debian oufo (~ET@77.49.44.50.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:27.27 | *** join/#debian dabor (~dabor@190.49.61.246) |
| 23:28.25 | *** join/#debian spudwebb (~spuddweb@c-24-147-245-241.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:28.47 | *** join/#debian oy-tablet (~oy@f055058011.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:31.01 | *** join/#debian bsdgeek (~bsdgeek@91-66-20-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 23:32.12 | *** join/#debian denile (~denile@unaffiliated/denile) |
| 23:32.24 | *** join/#debian EpolOpol (~EpolOpol@office.neteasyinc.com) |
| 23:32.58 | *** join/#debian jeeves_moss (~jeeves@67.55.25.158) |
| 23:33.00 | jeeves_moss | how do I setup a proper bidirectional replication FROM a windows DNS server TO a bind server? |
| 23:33.15 | jhutchins_wk | For a package that may be in both main and backports, or main and dmm, how do I show both versions that are available? |
| 23:33.24 | *** join/#debian daniel (~macrobat@h88-206-143-196.vokby.se) |
| 23:33.55 | *** join/#debian mdasoh_ (~mdasoh@253-175-174-206.cust.wirelessbeehive.com) |
| 23:37.02 | *** join/#debian xsaidx (~kosaidpo@41.251.117.94) |
| 23:38.16 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: "apt-cache policy foo" |
| 23:38.18 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (ChangChong@c-68-35-88-96.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 23:38.43 | *** join/#debian Marlas (~Marlas@216.170.27.137) |
| 23:39.34 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 23:39.39 | *** part/#debian xsaidx (~kosaidpo@41.251.117.94) |
| 23:40.08 | xsappyx | jeeves_moss: bi-directional and a From->To doesn't make sense |
| 23:40.31 | jeeves_moss | xsappyx, lets start with making this BIND server a slave to the windows server |
| 23:40.39 | *** join/#debian EpolOpol_ (~EpolOpol@office.neteasyinc.com) |
| 23:40.48 | jeeves_moss | xsappyx, I can't find the technet article that is a step by step to set it up |
| 23:41.24 | xsappyx | jeeves_moss: set up bind to pull from the windows dns machine, you usually have to allow transfers from specific IPs on the win DNS side. |
| 23:41.44 | *** join/#debian EpolOpol__ (~EpolOpol@office.neteasyinc.com) |
| 23:41.46 | nevyn | this might be cleaner with samba4 ? |
| 23:42.07 | jeeves_moss | xsappyx, yes, I get that. But what I'm concerned with is when I add a new domain name to the windows server if the BIND box will replicate the new entry |
| 23:42.08 | xsappyx | nevyn: it works correctly with bind and win dns.. pretty common setup |
| 23:42.40 | nevyn | so dynamic updates don't work bidirectionally without removing most of the security. |
| 23:42.58 | nevyn | samba 4 should solve that. |
| 23:43.30 | jeeves_moss | xsappyx, do you happen to have a URL to a "How To"? |
| 23:43.30 | xsappyx | jeeves_moss: if it is a full domain, you'll have to set that up in bind as a new zone.. just new records in an existing domina/zone will update on the bind slave |
| 23:44.26 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 23:44.56 | *** join/#debian pigeons (~pigeons@249.69-48-199.rdns.scalabledns.com) |
| 23:46.02 | *** join/#debian buribu (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribu) |
| 23:46.48 | driiper | CutMeOwnThroat: im trying it now :) thanks! |
| 23:47.23 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1252] by debhelper |
| 23:48.09 | jhutchins_wk | zykotick9: Thanks. Is there a way to query a specific repository? |
| 23:48.39 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@pool-71-184-234-2.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:50.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | just as you seemed a bit hazy on what that package actually is |
| 23:52.39 | *** join/#debian |{41444d494e}| (~kvirc@178.123.124.187) |
| 23:52.43 | *** join/#debian Dexter_F (~Dex@p579BEF1C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:52.46 | Dexter_F | heya |
| 23:54.16 | Dexter_F | have a dd'ed image of a full disk, can one loop-mount one partition from it when one knows the partition start/end instead of extracting the partition first? |
| 23:54.45 | *** join/#debian ldnblk (~ldnblk@212.183.128.176) |
| 23:54.54 | kveroneau | Installing Debian Woody in VirtualBox sure brings back memories.... I completely forgot how manual the module loading was back then. yikes! |
| 23:56.08 | *** join/#debian slonsiki (~slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 23:57.42 | *** join/#debian Therion87 (~Robert@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net) |
| 23:57.50 | *** join/#debian hi9909099 (~Thunderbi@123.92.66.194) |
| 23:58.30 | *** join/#debian megharsh (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 23:58.49 | b0ss_ | I need to setup wireless acces for Debian Squeeze in my laptop. I can't use Ethernet access. First I ran dpkg -l wireless-tools and there's one entry. Then I ran dpkg -l wpasupplicant and there's also one entry. My modified /etc/network/interfaces is as follows: https://gist.github.com/4439444. At the end I tried ifup wlan0 but I was not able to connect. Yes, my SSID is listed though iwlist |
| 23:58.50 | b0ss_ | wlan0 scan. Ideas?? |
| 23:59.14 | *** join/#debian simone_ (~simone@host177-154-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |