| 00:00.51 | ldnblk | now that I can see wireless access points, I am not able to log on to them. looking in the log files I am seeing that wlan0: authenticated, wlan0: associate with 12:ac:54:e9:5e:9a (try 1/3),wlan0: deauthenticating from 12:ac:54:e9:5e:9a by local choice (reason=3),wpa_supplicant[1405]: No network configuration found for the current AP |
| 00:00.51 | ldnblk | Dec ,wlan0: RX AssocResp from 12:ac:54:e9:5e:9a (capab=0x421 status=0 aid=1) |
| 00:00.51 | ldnblk | Dec,wlan0: associated, dhcpcd[5293]: wlan0: dhcpcd 3.2.3 starting, wpa_supplicant[1405]: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys. wlan0 broadcasts for a lease and then eventually the dhcpd deamon stops on wlan0 and the wlan interface is brought down. can any one point me in the right direction as to why I am not able to connect onto an open wifi network ? |
| 00:01.53 | xreal | tremon: there seems to be a problem with dependencies. |
| 00:02.19 | xreal | tremon: lib32v4l-0 (>= 0.5.0) can't be found |
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| 00:03.03 | tremon | ,i lib32v4l-0 |
| 00:03.04 | judd | No package named 'lib32v4l-0' was found in squeeze/i386. |
| 00:03.25 | tremon | ,i lib32v4l-0 --arch amd64 |
| 00:03.26 | judd | Package lib32v4l-0 (libs, optional) in squeeze/amd64: Collection of video4linux support libraries (32 bits). Version: 0.8.0-1; Size: 73.9k; Installed: 252k; Homepage: http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-utils/ |
| 00:03.54 | tremon | xreal: that version is in main on both squeeze and wheezy |
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| 00:04.30 | xreal | tremon: oh wait, backports might do problems |
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| 00:05.12 | xreal | tremon: yep, that's it |
| 00:05.38 | xreal | tremon: thanks |
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| 00:11.01 | nevyn | bluesm: security. it ensures that the release file at the other end is signed with a key. yes key distribution is problem but meh. |
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| 00:23.37 | klys | ok I am trying to unbrick my tablet. it I think is doing fsck on / and so it doesn't ever start the "loading..." sequence. the question I have is there used to be this file online called debian-wm8650-0.5.img.7z; does anyone here have this file? |
| 00:23.53 | klys | !wm8650 |
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| 00:26.24 | useless-eater | debian seriously need a good dvd creator software in repos. something like DVDStyler or DVD Flick :) |
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| 00:27.58 | klys | ~wm8650 |
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| 00:28.25 | crolab | what is wrong with mkisofs/growisofs and dvdauthor ? |
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| 00:33.27 | useless-eater | crolab: how do you create dvd menus and stuff there? for pros I guess its awesome, but for me, creating a dvd (with gui menus ++) every year or so its not. I use growisofs a lot though :) But my problem here is creating nice dvd menus.. not the dvdfs. |
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| 00:33.50 | Towzzer | adobe encore |
| 00:34.15 | useless-eater | Towzzer: adobe? whats that? |
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| 00:35.23 | nack | now apt-get dist-upgrade complain that some package that is not installed have dependncy problems |
| 00:35.26 | Nillerz | Hullo |
| 00:35.38 | wols_ | !tell nack about bat |
| 00:36.08 | Towzzer | useless-eater, :D but seriously, encore |
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| 00:36.20 | Nillerz | I have na issue. My external hard drive has all files show up in XBMC, most in Nautilus, and none in Thunar |
| 00:36.25 | Nillerz | if you use ls it shows them all |
| 00:36.29 | Nillerz | it is an NTFS partition |
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| 00:36.35 | Nillerz | I am using Wheezy |
| 00:36.42 | Nillerz | and am very confused |
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| 00:37.19 | Nillerz | Thunar gives me an input/output error |
| 00:37.32 | Nillerz | Nautilus acts normal but doesn't show some of the folders involved (no dot-folders) |
| 00:37.33 | Solbu | A friend have problems with «reportbug», and want to resend the saved report file. How does he do that without creating the report from scratch? |
| 00:37.42 | Nillerz | and ls behaves as you'd expect |
| 00:37.45 | cnz | I installed ex2ifs but I still cannot see my partitions I created in linux in windows |
| 00:37.48 | Nillerz | Anyone have any clue what is going on? |
| 00:38.42 | Nillerz | Could it be because Debian 7 has an outdated version of ntfs-3g? |
| 00:39.16 | bluesm | How can I measure sum of the received data ? |
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| 00:40.17 | useless-eater | Nillerz: input/output error hmm, any hints in dmesg? |
| 00:41.26 | Nillerz | here's some applicable stuff from dmesg |
| 00:41.28 | Nillerz | one sec |
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| 00:41.46 | Nillerz | v |
| 00:41.48 | Nillerz | http://pastebin.ca/2297895 |
| 00:41.57 | cnz | how can I view partitions on my drives made in linux in windows |
| 00:42.16 | Nillerz | I disconnected it, reconnected it, then mounted it with thunar before running dmesg |
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| 00:42.36 | nack | http://paste.debian.net/220219/ wols_ , anyone problem upgrading to wheezy |
| 00:43.19 | sney | nack, I told dpkg to send you a message about that. does your irc client not have messages? |
| 00:43.29 | Nillerz | in other words, no, no hints... |
| 00:43.34 | useless-eater | Nillerz: couldnt see anything wrong there.. |
| 00:43.39 | Nillerz | me neither |
| 00:43.42 | cirdan | hey is there a good place to go for udev/hotplug help? I have an iomega NAS running debian lenny from about a year ago, and it doesn't see my usb drive because /sys and hotplug don't agree where type should be |
| 00:43.44 | nack | sney, I did what dpkg told me |
| 00:43.46 | Nillerz | its driving me nuts though |
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| 00:44.23 | Nillerz | XBMC (running on a separate pc) keeps adding Game of Thrones to my Movie library but calling it "Open Season", probably because they're kept in folders like "Season 1, Season 2", etc. |
| 00:44.25 | nack | sney, this is after removing every package that had a problem the packge it complains about are not installed |
| 00:44.33 | useless-eater | Nillerz: Icons missing? or filename too? Happens to other disks too? |
| 00:44.33 | Nillerz | that's just how I rip them |
| 00:44.50 | ldnblk | http://pastebin.com/tDvdgs4g is more captured data with regards to my wifi network not being able to log onto an open access network. |
| 00:45.02 | Nillerz | I haven't noticed it in other disks, but the icon and filename are completely absent in Nautilus, and you can't even tell they are there at all |
| 00:45.05 | Nillerz | Thunar just gives up |
| 00:45.12 | Nillerz | and ls displays all info correctly |
| 00:45.17 | Nillerz | as does xbmc for some reason |
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| 00:45.40 | sney | nack, I'm pretty sure dpkg gave you advice for what to do if apt complains about dependencies. |
| 00:45.45 | Nillerz | so I don't think it's a file-manager issue as much as it is an ntfs issue |
| 00:46.26 | nack | dpkg -r --force-depends libaccess-bridge-java-jni |
| 00:46.26 | dpkg | removes --force-depends libaccess-bridge-java-jni along with a pound of flesh from nack's body, then staples nack back up with a staple gun. |
| 00:46.27 | useless-eater | if you can see, run ++ the files from terminal I would think its a fm issue |
| 00:46.29 | nack | I did it |
| 00:46.48 | Nillerz | what do you mean, useless-eater |
| 00:46.49 | Nillerz | ? |
| 00:47.17 | nack | o damn, I did it again but in gnome, and now it started running |
| 00:47.31 | nack | maybe i had a typo in terminal without gui |
| 00:47.43 | nack | what do I do to stop it and start it without the gui? |
| 00:47.53 | useless-eater | Nillerz: If you can browse the files in terminal emulator, and run things, then it should be problems with file managers i think? |
| 00:48.25 | Nillerz | if both Thunar and Nautilus are messing it up, I'd think it was a file corruption problem |
| 00:48.33 | nack | I read that in gui it may stop my gui, and then the process will get killed |
| 00:48.49 | crolab | useless-eater: http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:48.54 | nack | its now preparing unpacking sellecting |
| 00:49.01 | useless-eater | Nillerz: they could be missing some dependencies |
| 00:49.25 | useless-eater | Nillerz: try feh ./somephoto.jpg or mplayer ./somemovie.webm |
| 00:49.26 | Nillerz | that doesn't make sense, because nautilus is displaying SOME folders and files, just not all of them |
| 00:49.47 | useless-eater | Nillerz: ok, thats a little odd. :) |
| 00:50.17 | sney | nack you can just ctrl+c to abort and then apt-get -f install to resume |
| 00:50.21 | Nillerz | VLC can play the file |
| 00:50.30 | nack | ok |
| 00:50.32 | sney | nack and in the future, it's a good idea to use screen for upgrades |
| 00:50.51 | Nillerz | even if the file manager can't show it, VLC can play it |
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| 00:50.59 | nack | I never used screen yet |
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| 00:51.08 | nack | I know what it is though |
| 00:51.14 | Nillerz | this is a very strange problem. |
| 00:51.25 | nack | and I did ^c but it didn't respond |
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| 00:51.46 | nack | sney and I did ^c but it didn't respond |
| 00:52.06 | nack | sney, kill it? |
| 00:52.47 | nack | if it can be killed and resumed, why not just resume it if it kills itself by stopping my GUI? |
| 00:54.26 | useless-eater | Nillerz: There must be a log file somewhere I hope. |
| 00:54.37 | useless-eater | Nillerz: raspberry? :) |
| 00:54.41 | sney | nack, yeah, you can do that too. (sometimes you need to ^c more than once) |
| 00:55.16 | Nillerz | I'm going to see if it's just this PC or if it's all things |
| 00:55.24 | Nillerz | I'm going to test the drive on my Slackware machine |
| 00:55.28 | useless-eater | Nillerz: check how it handles ext3 to eliminate some posibilities |
| 00:55.42 | Nillerz | it handles all other disks fine, from what I can tell |
| 00:55.44 | nack | sney, I ^c about 6 times, and then I thought that it just ignore it |
| 00:55.52 | sney | haha ok. |
| 00:55.57 | nack | sney, it doesn't have to catch the signal |
| 00:56.15 | nack | sney, or do anything about it |
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| 00:56.22 | Nillerz | I don't have anything in ext3, anyway |
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| 00:58.24 | dokma | if I have a 100GB logical volume and a 50GB logical volume and another 100GB of free space will I be able to resize any of the existing logical volumes no matter what their position on the disk is ??? |
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| 00:58.57 | Nillerz | I think the free space has to be in the middle |
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| 00:59.21 | Walex2 | dokma: yes, because logical volumes are not contguous, they are made of "segments" usually of a few dozen MBs. |
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| 00:59.24 | dokma | Nillerz: can you elaborate that? |
| 00:59.40 | dokma | Walex2: didn't know that |
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| 00:59.48 | Walex2 | dokma: more precisely, they are *usually* contiguous, but *not necessarily*. |
| 00:59.50 | Nillerz | I could be wrong because walex2 contradicted me |
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| 01:00.05 | dokma | Is there a performance penalty if they are not contiguous? |
| 01:00.24 | useless-eater | yes, a little |
| 01:00.30 | Walex2 | dokma: usually yes, but small because they are mostly contiguous |
| 01:00.52 | dokma | ok, right now I have one 100GB volume and the rest is free space |
| 01:01.14 | dokma | I want to expand the existing one to take up everything but a few GB for /tmp |
| 01:01.17 | Walex2 | dokma: options '-C' to 'lvcreate' and '-s' to 'vgcreate' |
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| 01:01.48 | dokma | so I guess the best way is to first expand the existing one so that it can be expanded as a contiguous volume |
| 01:01.57 | dokma | and then create the small one for /tmp |
| 01:05.22 | Nillerz | my slackware nautilus also fuzzed it up, no showing that folder |
| 01:05.24 | dokma | I assume that if I enlarge a volume that the filesystem on it is untact? |
| 01:05.35 | Nillerz | I guess that one folder is sorta corrupted |
| 01:05.39 | Nillerz | I use the terminal to move it |
| 01:05.42 | Nillerz | LETS SEE how this works... |
| 01:06.11 | Nillerz | it's visible now. |
| 01:06.14 | Nillerz | ta-da? |
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| 01:07.03 | Walex2 | dokma: depends very much on the filesystem, either it ignores the large volume or expands the metadata accordingly. |
| 01:07.32 | Walex2 | dokma: it is often not a good idea for performance to expand a filesystem, depending on how it is done. |
| 01:08.03 | dokma | i thought of lvresize followed by resize2fs |
| 01:08.33 | Walex2 | dokma: IIRC 'lvresize' should automatically do that, or perhaps I was thinking of some other tool. |
| 01:08.55 | tremon | Walex2: lvresize -r |
| 01:09.07 | dokma | will check that |
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| 01:18.46 | Towzzer | think it's always worth it to do lvm |
| 01:18.51 | Towzzer | the overhead that is |
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| 01:19.07 | bennypr0fane | hello, I have a problem with my sudo password. I changed the user account settings to automatically login without pwd prompt, because I'm the only person using this computer. Now my sudo password isn't working anymore. |
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| 01:19.54 | bennypr0fane | funny enough, I *just* used it to change my account type from user to admin, and that worked with my old pwd! |
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| 01:20.41 | tremon | bennypr0fane: so you changed your group memberships, and now sudo isn't accepting your password? |
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| 01:21.04 | bennypr0fane | tremon yes, I think |
| 01:21.17 | Towzzer | the old group must have been in the sudo file |
| 01:21.22 | Towzzer | and now, not |
| 01:21.47 | tremon | make sure you're still a member of the sudo group (if you haven't changed the debian sudo config) |
| 01:22.09 | bluesm | how to measure amout of data that I received ? |
| 01:22.13 | useless-eater | I get this when apt-get update after adding multimedia.. anyone knows why? "W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/www.deb-multimedia.org_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch" |
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| 01:22.47 | bennypr0fane | Towzzer another funny thing is I was still asked for it to login. Also when I entered it the oputput was that my user is not in the sudoers group - I've been doing everyhting from a root terminal |
| 01:22.58 | tremon | bennypr0fane: if not, boot to rescue mode and re-add your user to that group |
| 01:23.14 | bennypr0fane | tremon haven't changed it knowingly |
| 01:23.59 | bennypr0fane | where is the sudo file? how do I add users to it? |
| 01:24.08 | tremon | that's the problem with gui tools: unintended side effects |
| 01:24.12 | bennypr0fane | which group? |
| 01:24.17 | tremon | if you still have a root terminal open, no need to reboot, btw |
| 01:25.07 | bennypr0fane | haha, this is just ridiculous. I opened the root terminal now and it worked! |
| 01:25.19 | bennypr0fane | I'm root now! |
| 01:25.20 | tremon | the "sudo file" is /etc/sudoers (and /etc/sudoers.d/* in recent versions), but I don't think you need to change that one |
| 01:25.24 | bennypr0fane | how is this possible? |
| 01:25.36 | tremon | that's through policykit, not sudo |
| 01:25.44 | bennypr0fane | I only ever specified one password |
| 01:26.08 | bennypr0fane | I'm on Wheezy btw |
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| 01:27.13 | bennypr0fane | in /etc/sudoers.d/ there is onlyone readme file |
| 01:27.54 | tremon | that's the default config |
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| 01:29.44 | bennypr0fane | so where should I add which user now? I'm totally confused. Why is my pwd accepted by the root terminal but not from sudo? |
| 01:30.09 | Towzzer | edit the sudo file with "visudo" |
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| 01:30.56 | bennypr0fane | visudo gedit /etc/sudoers ? |
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| 01:31.12 | Towzzer | just type visudo |
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| 01:31.57 | Towzzer | user ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL |
| 01:32.07 | Towzzer | for the user you want to give complete control of |
| 01:32.54 | tremon | bennypr0fane: well you haven't really given us much to advise you on. What's the output of groups? What are the contents of /etc/sudoers? please paste full logs of the commands that work and the commands that don't |
| 01:33.09 | bennypr0fane | tremon ok |
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| 01:33.56 | bennypr0fane | in the root terminal, the output of groups is "root"... |
| 01:34.02 | tremon | !paste |
| 01:34.02 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 01:34.05 | neon | hi |
| 01:34.18 | neon | I upgraded to wheezy, and gnome doesn't look like normal gnome |
| 01:34.38 | bennypr0fane | neon, what do you mean by "normal gnome"? |
| 01:34.41 | tremon | neon: "normal gnome" is dead |
| 01:34.49 | bennypr0fane | Gnome2? Gnome3? |
| 01:35.05 | neon__ | I mean that I am not sure it is even gnome |
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| 01:35.16 | bennypr0fane | tremon that was the whole output, there isn't more |
| 01:35.19 | neon__ | it has this "activities' on the menu bar above |
| 01:35.26 | neon__ | instead of applications |
| 01:35.31 | neon__ | places |
| 01:35.37 | bennypr0fane | it's Gnome 3, and yes, it's different |
| 01:35.49 | bennypr0fane | neon__ didn't you know that? |
| 01:35.51 | neon__ | and when I press it my windows are minimized |
| 01:36.01 | tremon | bennypr0fane: not groups as root, but as your user, the one you're trying to use sudo from |
| 01:36.07 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 01:36.14 | neon__ | bennypr0fane, no |
| 01:36.20 | PerfDave | neon__: That's the new version of Gnome - that's what the Gnome developers decided they wanted it to look like. |
| 01:36.31 | Towzzer | neon__ if you are looking for something classic try Mint |
| 01:36.38 | neon__ | can I make it look like I am used to? |
| 01:37.14 | neon__ | Towzzer, what is Mint? a flavor of gnome? or an other DM? |
| 01:37.47 | bennypr0fane | neon__ Mint is a different distro, based on Ubuntu, but there's also aDebian edition |
| 01:38.08 | bennypr0fane | and they have a branch of Gnome2 as default desktop |
| 01:38.18 | bennypr0fane | Cinnamon or Mate |
| 01:38.38 | neon__ | I dont want gnome 2. I want gnome 3 :DD |
| 01:38.46 | neon__ | but I want it to look like gnome 2 |
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| 01:39.02 | bennypr0fane | not sure which one is the Gnome2 derivative acutally. or are they both? |
| 01:39.26 | bennypr0fane | tremon, hwo do I change user? |
| 01:39.32 | hramrach | neon__: why do you want gnome3 when you want it to be like gnome2? |
| 01:39.35 | hramrach | get gnome2 |
| 01:40.23 | bennypr0fane | yes, neon__ it doesn't make much sense to want gnome3 if it's supposed to look like gnome2. Also, I think not possible |
| 01:40.37 | tremon | bennypr0fane: what do you mean, "change user"? are you telling me that you're only logged in as root? |
| 01:40.49 | neon__ | I'll ask #gnome |
| 01:41.04 | Towzzer | sorry, this channel moves fast |
| 01:41.15 | Towzzer | Mint is a continuation of gnome 2, try it out |
| 01:41.16 | Towzzer | it's really nice |
| 01:41.53 | tremon | Towzzer: mint is an ubuntu-based distribution, the continuation of gnome2 is cinnamon |
| 01:42.16 | Towzzer | I'm sorry, I meant MATE |
| 01:42.24 | Towzzer | I keep thinking Mint because that's their main gui |
| 01:42.37 | Towzzer | plus they both start with M |
| 01:43.02 | bennypr0fane | Towzzer you didn't mean LinuxMint? tremon I'm logged in as my normal user, but I'm root in the terminal. I would change the user of the terminal |
| 01:43.05 | Theoden | http://i.imgur.com/7Irw9.jpg |
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| 01:43.42 | Towzzer | you can install mate on wheezy |
| 01:43.48 | Towzzer | http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download , just follow the simple instructions |
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| 01:44.26 | tremon | bennypr0fane: open another terminal (a normal one, not root terminal), and run groups there |
| 01:45.10 | bennypr0fane | tremon I did, it opens as root |
| 01:45.49 | tremon | bennypr0fane: ouch. So you're logged into X as root? well congratulations, you don't need sudo anymore |
| 01:46.09 | tremon | but I'd advise you to undo that asap |
| 01:46.15 | crolab | tremon: what is a 'normal terminal and not a root terminal'? |
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| 01:46.35 | Towzzer | if sudo allows all with a password it might not have any value |
| 01:46.43 | Towzzer | sudo rm -rf /etc, rm -rf |
| 01:46.49 | Towzzer | if you are going to make a mistake you aren't thinking |
| 01:47.03 | Towzzer | you will type the wrong command with sudo in front of it |
| 01:47.19 | tremon | crolab: the gnome menu has both a standard terminal and a "root terminal" icon iirc, the latter uses policykit and/or gksudo to spawn as root automatically |
| 01:47.19 | crolab | depending on the pseudo sudo is like being invited to a dinner party but not being allowed to use a fork and knife |
| 01:47.28 | tremon | but that may or may not be in default debian, I don't use gnome |
| 01:47.37 | Towzzer | sudo works best when you need to restrict users to certain high level commands, like at my old job |
| 01:47.52 | Towzzer | there was a sudo group that allowed users to restart nginx, php-fpm |
| 01:48.57 | bennypr0fane | tremon If "I don't need sudo anymore", how come Synaptic asks for my pwd? |
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| 01:49.34 | tremon | bennypr0fane: whose password is that? you just told me that every terminal you open, runs as root automatically? |
| 01:50.13 | fluffywolf | same fresh-ish wheezy install as earlier... gnome-terminal doesn't work. it starts, but the window is black with no shell running. wtf? |
| 01:50.23 | fluffywolf | xterm works fine. |
| 01:50.44 | crolab | type whoami to be sure as to who you are |
| 01:51.57 | chovy | can i do 'sudo foo || bar' or do I need to do 'sudo foo || sudo bar' |
| 01:51.57 | bennypr0fane | I closed the root term and opened a new window, now I'm my user |
| 01:52.03 | steven68 | Am I correct that wireless-tools(include iwconfig) support only WEP? According to http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html there is some WPA and WPA2 support.. |
| 01:52.05 | chovy | to run both commands as sudo |
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| 01:53.07 | tremon | chovy: the latter |
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| 01:54.57 | bennypr0fane | tremon so I'm back to square one. However, if the problem is my user not being a sudoer, the output shouldn't be "Sorry, try again", but "this user is not part of the sudoers group. this incident will be reported" or sth... right? |
| 01:54.59 | chovy | tremon: is there anyway to run both commands with one sudo? |
| 01:55.06 | chovy | like sudo (foo || bar) or soemthing |
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| 01:56.34 | tremon | chovy: sudo sh -c 'long list || of && commands' |
| 01:57.06 | somiaj | steven68: use wpasupplicant for wapa support |
| 01:57.30 | tremon | bennypr0fane: so, have you tried issuing passwd and resetting your password? |
| 01:58.29 | babilen | steven68: You need wpasupplicant for WPA |
| 01:58.41 | Towzzer | debian is truly outrageous |
| 01:59.27 | somiaj | though seems they are trying to integrate wpa into wireless tools |
| 01:59.49 | somiaj | you can see some comments about it in /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/changelog.gz on sid as well |
| 02:00.25 | crolab | steven do iwpriv wlan0 to see if your driver module can do wpa |
| 02:01.05 | bennypr0fane | tremon I haven't tried to reset my pwd, how to? here's output of groups and content of sudoers file: http://pastie.org/5595722 |
| 02:01.08 | somiaj | though no sure how the wpa support in wireless-tools is or if it still just primary |
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| 02:01.52 | somiaj | all the changelog says is "better WPA support" |
| 02:02.04 | crolab | it is up to what the kernel module can do |
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| 02:03.57 | bennypr0fane | tremon wow I can just reset my pwd with this one command? It says I should choose a longer one, mine has only three chars and I definitely don't want a longer one |
| 02:04.32 | tremon | bennypr0fane: your user is not a member of the sudo group, and no other users are allowed. issue adduser ben sudo from a root terminal |
| 02:04.43 | cnz | how can I view partitions on my drives made in linux in windows |
| 02:04.57 | hramrach | poorly |
| 02:04.58 | somiaj | cnz: fdisk -l /dev/sda (or what ever the drive is) |
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| 02:05.25 | cnz | that's for linux to see windows partitions? |
| 02:05.27 | tremon | bennypr0fane: iirc if you do "passwd ben" as root, you will be allowed to choose unsafe passwords |
| 02:05.30 | Towzzer | http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm |
| 02:05.48 | somiaj | cnz: that lists the partition table on your drive (provided it is tradtional, not sure if it does GPT partition tables) |
| 02:05.49 | crolab | cnz suggestion don' |
| 02:05.49 | Towzzer | it's free |
| 02:05.49 | tremon | cnz: do you want to view the partitions or the files in them? |
| 02:06.06 | somiaj | cnz: what do you mean by see partitions? Do you want to get the data from the partition/drive/filesystem? |
| 02:06.13 | crolab | t mess with linux partitions in windows - it is fine to do windows partitions in linux though |
| 02:06.22 | cnz | tremon i want to view the drives but I can't because they were partitioned in linux |
| 02:06.25 | cnz | windows wont' see them |
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| 02:07.00 | somiaj | cnz: there is a difference between a partition and a filesystem |
| 02:07.09 | somiaj | cnz: windows can see the partitions and you need correct drivers to see the filesystem |
| 02:07.27 | somiaj | cnz: same thing in linux. You can see the windows filesystems (vfat, ntfs) if you have the correct drivers, for ntfs, install ntfs-3g |
| 02:07.29 | cnz | somiaj, windows doesn't even see the partitions right now |
| 02:08.01 | somiaj | are you using the standard partition format or the new GPT partition format? |
| 02:08.08 | Towzzer | cnz- compmgmt.msc |
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| 02:08.19 | Towzzer | click disk management, do they show up there? |
| 02:08.27 | cnz | Towzzer yes |
| 02:08.42 | cnz | somiaj, I used cfdisk and made them 87 for ntfs |
| 02:08.43 | somiaj | if windows cannot see the partition, there might be something wrong with the partition. It should be able to see the partition (in disk manager), but it wll not be able to read the filesystems unless you install an driver (Which there are) |
| 02:08.48 | cnz | then ran mkfs.ntfs |
| 02:08.57 | Towzzer | cnz- are you trying to get fileS? |
| 02:09.22 | steven68 | crolab, somiaj: you mean iwconfig is able to support WPA/WPA2 if driver supports it? And one can see WPA/WPA2 support with the "iwpriv" command? |
| 02:09.23 | cnz | Towzzer im trying to access the drives period they re my storage drives |
| 02:09.36 | Towzzer | what filesystem are they? |
| 02:09.39 | crolab | steven68: yes |
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| 02:10.05 | somiaj | steven68: this is news to me, I did not realize wpa support was being added to wireless-tools. I just use wpasupplicant and it works just fine |
| 02:10.08 | Towzzer | here is a free fs driver for ext3/4 on windows - http://www.ext2fsd.com/ |
| 02:10.17 | cnz | somiaj, yeah they show up in device manager, which driver do I need to install to view ntfs file systems created in linux |
| 02:10.27 | cnz | Towzzer I have that installed |
| 02:10.28 | cnz | doesn't work |
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| 02:10.39 | Towzzer | maybe the drives are formatted as another filesystem, xfs? |
| 02:10.44 | tremon | cnz: windows will only try to read partitions with a microsoft-known id code |
| 02:10.56 | crolab | steven68: not iwconfig but iwpriv is used - |
| 02:10.57 | cnz | tremon so am I screwed? |
| 02:10.57 | somiaj | cnz: maybe you crated the filesystem incorrectly for windows to like it. Do you have ntfs-3g installed? |
| 02:11.12 | cnz | somiaj, I don't have ntfs-3g installed fvor windows |
| 02:11.25 | cnz | I can see the drives and read the drives just find in linux |
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| 02:11.34 | Towzzer | what filesystem are they? |
| 02:11.42 | tremon | cnz: no, you need to make sure the partition type code is 07 (ntfs) if you want windows to read the ntfs partition |
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| 02:12.01 | cnz | Towzzer NTFS created in linux with cfdisk and formatted with mkfs.ntfs |
| 02:12.16 | cnz | tremon, hhmm damn i picked 87 |
| 02:12.23 | Towzzer | oh gosh, why would you create the disks in linux as ntfs if you were going to use them in windows |
| 02:12.27 | Towzzer | why not make them in windows |
| 02:12.33 | somiaj | cnz: that can be easily changed, for the most part it is just a number in the partition table and won't effect the filesystem on the partition. |
| 02:12.42 | cnz | Towzzer, because i didn't have windows installed at the time? |
| 02:12.51 | Towzzer | ok ok, sorry sir |
| 02:12.55 | cnz | and I didn't want to lose all the data |
| 02:13.21 | cnz | somiaj can it be fixed without reinstalling debian? |
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| 02:13.44 | somiaj | cnz: always back stuff up, but I belive you can change the partition number without effecting the data on th epartition at all |
| 02:13.58 | Towzzer | cnz - install ease partition manager, it will let you manually change the ID |
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| 02:14.02 | Towzzer | it's free and pretty easy to use sir |
| 02:14.11 | somiaj | though I have never done that, so maybe someone else can back me up on that |
| 02:14.13 | somiaj | or just use cfdisk |
| 02:14.24 | cnz | Towzzer cool I will try it |
| 02:14.35 | cnz | somiaj, I don't have linux installed anymore on that pc |
| 02:14.36 | useless-eater | I get this when apt-get update after adding multimedia.. anyone knows why? "W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/www.deb-multimedia.org_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch" |
| 02:15.07 | somiaj | useless-eater: rerun apt-get update and try again? |
| 02:15.23 | Towzzer | corrupted down? |
| 02:15.31 | somiaj | useless-eater: oh wait, sounds like something is wrong with deb-multimedia's repos.... |
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| 02:15.56 | useless-eater | ohh :\ |
| 02:16.15 | steven68 | crolab, ok, thanks! Looks like my Ralink RT2870 has no interesting driver-specific options: "wlan1 no private ioctls." |
| 02:16.35 | neon__ | error adding /etc/ssl/certs/SecureTrust_CA.pem ??? |
| 02:16.46 | neon__ | I see lots of these |
| 02:16.48 | useless-eater | somiaj: its been like this for a while, tested on job computer too some weeks ago,, same thing happened. :\ |
| 02:16.48 | bennypr0fane | ok, I think I may have my old pwd back. Now for the problem of not being able to sudo as user. To change that, I need to edit the sudoers file, yes? What do I add where? It looks like in the paste I posted earlier |
| 02:16.51 | neon__ | is it an error? |
| 02:17.08 | useless-eater | somiaj: any fix I can do my self? |
| 02:17.18 | somiaj | useless-eater: have you tried to see if deb-multimedia provides any info on this? |
| 02:17.30 | useless-eater | hmm how? |
| 02:17.49 | useless-eater | web? ok Ill google it |
| 02:18.07 | somiaj | useless-eater: yea google, goto their webpage, check their faq, documentation, make sure you followed it correctly |
| 02:18.24 | cnz | Towzzer, how do you change the partition id with epm |
| 02:18.38 | Towzzer | oh man I haven't used it in a while |
| 02:18.49 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: adduser username sudo -- that should be enough |
| 02:18.53 | crolab | steven68: should have something - try with wlan0 instead - and you need the drive installed first with modprobe etc and any firmware |
| 02:19.26 | crolab | /s/drive/driver/ |
| 02:19.37 | bennypr0fane | somiaj I add that at the end? or somewhere inbetween? |
| 02:19.53 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: no you run that command as root and then relogin as your user |
| 02:20.11 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: by default the suders file should give anyone in the 'sudo' group full privalges, that command adds you to the sudo group |
| 02:20.51 | bennypr0fane | somiaj it says in the sudoers file that it must be edited with the visudo command |
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| 02:21.11 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: do not edit the sudo file, you do not need to (if you just want to give that user full root privalges with sudo) |
| 02:21.12 | bennypr0fane | also, I can't add myself to the sudoers group if I'm not in it, can I? |
| 02:21.26 | somiaj | root can add you to the sudo group |
| 02:21.43 | bennypr0fane | ah yes |
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| 02:21.49 | somiaj | you have to be root to run visudo or to edit the sudoers file (do it with visudo)...you do not need to do this as I said 4 times now |
| 02:22.00 | somiaj | just run that command I gave you as root, relog into the user |
| 02:24.07 | bennypr0fane | somiaj got it. the fun part comes now: output of that command is: ben is already part of this group. When I try to sudo as ben, I get "ben is not in the sudoers file..." |
| 02:24.31 | useless-eater | somiaj: I did :\ seems like its broken.. ohh no.. |
| 02:24.33 | crolab | sudo visudo |
| 02:25.02 | bennypr0fane | crolab as root? |
| 02:25.12 | crolab | lol |
| 02:25.13 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: you can run visudo and edit the sudoers file. Where did you get that sudoers file? what version of debian are you running? |
| 02:25.21 | bennypr0fane | Wheezy |
| 02:25.45 | bennypr0fane | that file was just there, I never did anyhting to it. Why does it hate me? |
| 02:25.49 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: try to purge and reinstall sudo, your sudoers file should work with the sudo group |
| 02:26.14 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: or you can paste your sudoers file to paste.debian.net (if you don't think there is any sensitive info in it) |
| 02:26.25 | bennypr0fane | somiaj apt-get purge sudo ? or so? |
| 02:26.35 | bennypr0fane | I already pasted it here |
| 02:26.37 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: apt-get --purge remove sudo |
| 02:26.58 | somiaj | do you have a line like "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" in it? |
| 02:27.07 | bennypr0fane | http://pastie.org/5595722 |
| 02:27.41 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: type 'groups' as your user, do you see the sudo group listed? |
| 02:28.17 | bennypr0fane | no. that's in the paste too |
| 02:28.27 | somiaj | then you did not follow my instructions |
| 02:28.30 | somiaj | 'relogin as your user' |
| 02:28.52 | somiaj | do that, type 'groups' again and see you are now in the sudo group |
| 02:28.52 | bennypr0fane | I thought you meant relogin to terminal |
| 02:28.59 | somiaj | no I ment relogin as your user |
| 02:29.06 | somiaj | because groups are set at login |
| 02:29.30 | bennypr0fane | do you mean end this Gnome session, then log back in? |
| 02:29.35 | neon__ | E: tftpd-hpa: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 64 |
| 02:29.35 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 02:29.38 | somiaj | correct, logout and back in |
| 02:29.44 | bennypr0fane | ok, thanks |
| 02:29.48 | somiaj | opening a terminal does not run login(1). It only opens a new shell and runs bash |
| 02:30.01 | somiaj | (or what ever your default shell is) |
| 02:30.22 | bennypr0fane | ok, logging out now |
| 02:30.25 | bennypr0fane | brb |
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| 02:32.57 | steven68 | crolab, I have the firmware file(rt2870.bin) loaded if I do "ip link set dev wlan1 up". However, according to lsmod there is no kernel module loaded. I'm not sure if this is needed. I'm able to see the wlan1 device in iwconfig output and I'm able to modify it. |
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| 02:34.36 | neon__ | Starting HPA's tftpd: in.tftpdinvoke-rc.d: initscript tftpd-hpa, action "start" failed |
| 02:34.40 | bennypr0fane | it worked! I can sudo now as my user! However I'm still asked for my pwd at login. I want to autologin as my user, without the need to enter the password |
| 02:34.43 | neon__ | dpkg: error processing tftpd-hpa (--configure): |
| 02:34.44 | dpkg | neon__: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 02:34.53 | somiaj | steven68: the kernel module might not be named rt2870. it is probably loaded |
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| 02:35.23 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: you have to configure gdm for that, I belive you can (but this only works at boot, if you logout you won't get back in without a passwd afiak) |
| 02:35.42 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: I know gdm has an autologin config option, not sure if it works if you logout to make you not need password |
| 02:35.53 | tremon | neon__: there was a bug in the tftpd init script, it will exit nonzero if the daemon is disabled |
| 02:36.17 | neon__ | http://paste.debian.net/220243/ |
| 02:36.34 | crolab | steven68: do ifconfig also to see if you get an ip on wlan1 |
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| 02:36.58 | neon__ | tremon, the daemon is disabled? |
| 02:37.00 | bennypr0fane | smoiaj: I just want to boot my pc straight into gnome, no password required |
| 02:37.11 | neon__ | tremon, I think it is not disabled |
| 02:37.39 | hramrach | bennypr0fane: maybe you want to install nodm |
| 02:37.44 | crolab | steven68: you might not be recognizing the kernel module with lsmod - pastebin the lsmod output if you want - and check dmesg and /var/log/messages if you unplug plug it etc |
| 02:37.57 | neon__ | tremon, in services setting the checkbox is marked for tftpd-hpa |
| 02:38.01 | neon__ | so it is enabled |
| 02:38.04 | neon__ | no? |
| 02:38.30 | bennypr0fane | somiaj If I can't make that happen in gnome, I wonder what that user acoount manager is for. |
| 02:38.51 | bennypr0fane | hramrach not if I can avoid it |
| 02:39.24 | hramrach | why? it does exactly that |
| 02:39.44 | hramrach | anyway, gdm has that option too |
| 02:39.51 | bennypr0fane | it should |
| 02:39.53 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: gdm has many options. I don't use it so I don't know them. |
| 02:40.00 | bennypr0fane | except it hasn't worked so far |
| 02:40.16 | tremon | neon__: it's probably fixed already then, use sh -x /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start to see why it's failing |
| 02:40.20 | somiaj | bennypr0fane: what option are you setting. Note an autologin will only work the first boot |
| 02:40.25 | hramrach | I use nodm and it works fine |
| 02:40.37 | hramrach | fewer options, fewer things to go wrong :p |
| 02:40.42 | bennypr0fane | however, iof I edit gdm login options, that shouldn't change my root password, right? |
| 02:41.40 | bennypr0fane | I don't want to install a different dm because I don't want to ruin my life. I've made some scarring experiences |
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| 02:42.41 | bennypr0fane | my gui was taken away from me, and I was very lost |
| 02:43.04 | neon__ | tremon, sh -x end with " + start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -- --listen --user tftp --address 0.0.0.0:69 --secure -l /srv/tftp /srv/tftp " |
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| 02:43.49 | bennypr0fane | rrrraaaaaaaahhhhh, it messes with my root password! why does it do that? |
| 02:43.53 | tremon | neon__: echo $? |
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| 02:44.07 | neon__ | tremon, 64 |
| 02:44.24 | bennypr0fane | I chose login without password, now my sudo password stopped working again! |
| 02:44.27 | bennypr0fane | WHY! |
| 02:44.32 | bennypr0fane | sorry... |
| 02:44.43 | neon__ | do the same on that last command? |
| 02:44.48 | neon__ | sh -w tremon ? |
| 02:44.55 | neon__ | sh -x |
| 02:45.20 | neon__ | sh: 0: Can't open start-stop-daemon |
| 02:45.31 | tremon | neon__: no, echo $? shows the exit status of the command. but 64 isn't one I recognize |
| 02:45.31 | neon__ | its not a script i guess |
| 02:45.49 | neon__ | aha |
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| 02:46.25 | neon__ | now every installation I get that error |
| 02:47.10 | tremon | yes, that's because tftpd isn't configured yet, and every apt run will try again to configure it |
| 02:47.44 | tremon | you may try to chmod a-x the init script for now, hopefully that will allow the configuration to complete |
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| 02:48.15 | bennypr0fane | this must be a bug. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever |
| 02:48.31 | neon__ | ill try |
| 02:48.40 | tremon | if you just installed tftpd-hpa, please file a bug report |
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| 02:49.10 | tremon | neon__: take a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=544089#30 |
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| 02:50.23 | neon__ | looks about the same |
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| 02:51.39 | tremon | yeah, except for the error code (that one ended with 71) |
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| 02:52.39 | neon__ | tremon, maybe I should try "second, a workaround for this is that you pass --ipv4 to the daemon |
| 02:52.39 | neon__ | (debconf asks you for additional options, enter it there). |
| 02:52.54 | tremon | worth a shot. I'm starting tftpd from inetd, so I don't use the init script anyway |
| 02:53.17 | neon__ | how do I pass that --ipv4? |
| 02:53.21 | bennypr0fane | it's official. If you go to user system settings > user accounts in Gnome, then change login options to "no password", a) you can't sudo and b) your password stops working. That is seriously messed up |
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| 02:55.28 | fluffywolf | installing debian onto a $17 sd card seems to work surprisingly well... except for when aptitude re-does the package caches. ouch. |
| 02:55.54 | nkuttler | bennypr0fane: that's pretty much what i'd expect if i had no password |
| 02:55.56 | tremon | notes there is a good reason why unix people prefer text-based configuration |
| 02:56.09 | bennypr0fane | to go back, you need to do, as root b) reset your pwd with passwd and a) add your user to sudoers with adduser, even if it says you're already in the file, and c) relogin (not reboot) |
| 02:56.23 | bennypr0fane | fluffywolf you saying this makes sense to you? |
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| 02:56.46 | bennypr0fane | sry i meant nkuttler |
| 02:57.13 | neon__ | tremon, I don't know how to pass that --ipv4 |
| 02:57.15 | nkuttler | bennypr0fane: sure. but it sounds like the option was poorly labeled |
| 02:57.24 | bennypr0fane | maybe so. |
| 02:57.36 | bennypr0fane | still it doesn't make sense |
| 02:57.49 | tremon | neon__: edit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, TFTP_OPTIONS |
| 02:57.57 | nkuttler | bennypr0fane: sure it does. removes your password from /etc/passwd |
| 02:58.00 | bennypr0fane | "login without password" is not "change my password" |
| 02:58.06 | nkuttler | bennypr0fane: still allows key based auth for example |
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| 02:58.20 | nkuttler | like i said, bad label |
| 02:58.27 | KsM | passwd -d? |
| 02:58.32 | nkuttler | "disable password auth" sounds better |
| 02:58.37 | neon__ | tremon, didn't help |
| 02:58.58 | tremon | neon__: I kinda expected that. file a bug |
| 02:59.28 | bennypr0fane | "remove my password" would be the correct label, according to your description |
| 02:59.30 | neon__ | tremon, can I do that without registering and stuff? |
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| 03:00.05 | bennypr0fane | andm why would anyone want to do that, it's alsmost as if you where re4moveing your own user |
| 03:00.24 | nkuttler | bennypr0fane: no it's not, and i do it regularly |
| 03:00.36 | tremon | neon__: yes, just start reportbug --email=$my_mail_address tftpd-hpa (install reportbug if it isn't yet) |
| 03:01.22 | neon__ | tremon, does that have to be real email adress or I can write neon@x.com? |
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| 03:01.58 | tremon | neon__: please use a real one, otherwise the maintainers have no way to reach you (to ask for more information, etc) |
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| 03:02.36 | bennypr0fane | nkuttler forget it. I'm an intelligent human being, capable of logical thinking, and this utility is broken. It doesn't matter whether it's badly labelled or whatever, it just stinks |
| 03:02.56 | bennypr0fane | sometimes, an explanation doesn't make it right |
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| 03:03.04 | bennypr0fane | this is one of those cases |
| 03:03.33 | bennypr0fane | gotta go, the typos are coming |
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| 03:03.52 | nkuttler | sighs |
| 03:04.19 | neon__ | tremon, Your version (5.2-4) of tftpd-hpa appears to be out of date.The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive: unstable: 5.2-5 Do you still want to file a report |
| 03:04.36 | neon__ | tremon, maybe I can upgrade? I am on testing |
| 03:05.30 | neon__ | tremon, I disabled the service, now it doesn't bother me in installs |
| 03:05.58 | tremon | neon__: you can upgrade, but there is no unblock request yet for that version. that means wheezy will probably be released without the -4 |
| 03:06.31 | tremon | moreover, according to http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/t/tftp-hpa/current/changelog there are no source changes between -4 and -5 |
| 03:06.58 | neon__ | ok, ill just submit it |
| 03:07.12 | tremon | thx |
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| 03:11.49 | realion | When will Linux have a professional 24 bit 24 channel audio workstation application such as Steinberg's Cubase? |
| 03:13.59 | fluffywolf | Right after someone writes one. |
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| 03:15.45 | neon__ | is there a gnome-window-applets package? I saw ubuntu use that to add applets to gnome3 |
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| 03:16.44 | Jdc1197 | Hey guys, quick question... |
| 03:16.59 | neon__ | how can I check that all my squeeze packages were upgraded? |
| 03:17.09 | neon__ | (to wheezy version?) |
| 03:17.10 | Jdc1197 | Whats the difference between installing debian with a CD vs DVD? |
| 03:17.39 | nkuttler | Jdc1197: the dvd takes more time to download? |
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| 03:18.29 | nkuttler | Jdc1197: you also get more packages on dvd, so if you're not networked that might be better |
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| 03:18.56 | Jdc1197 | nkuttler, Alright! Thanks buddy. |
| 03:19.20 | neon__ | synaptic don't open repositories. It say they change and click reload. |
| 03:19.39 | neon__ | I do that and it still dont open the repositories window |
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| 03:21.02 | neon__ | File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 44, in <module> |
| 03:21.02 | neon__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:21.19 | neon__ | ImportError: No module named gtk.SoftwarePropertiesGtk |
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| 03:21.29 | neon__ | I got these errors in cli |
| 03:21.32 | neon__ | from synaptic |
| 03:22.29 | neon__ | found bug |
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| 03:22.38 | neon__ | and possible solution |
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| 03:24.41 | CryWolf | I'm trying to get serial over lan working using ipmitool. It works for bios and grub, but once linux starts booting, I get no response. I've verified that ttyS0 is set to the same settings as in the bios (115200, tried with both vt100 and vt100+). Using Debian 6.0.6. Any suggestions? |
| 03:26.41 | neon__ | didnt' work |
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| 03:37.17 | MachinaeWolf | How accurate is glxgears? |
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| 03:37.41 | nkuttler | MachinaeWolf: at doing what? |
| 03:38.26 | MachinaeWolf | determining fps |
| 03:38.35 | nkuttler | MachinaeWolf: well it counts it's own fps |
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| 03:39.51 | MachinaeWolf | well I was trying to compare how good my graphics card does compared to my irc buddies |
| 03:39.55 | MachinaeWolf | buddy's* |
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| 03:42.43 | zykotick9 | MachinaeWolf: i won't use glxgears as any sort of "accurate" benchmark... |
| 03:43.02 | MachinaeWolf | k, what do you recommend? |
| 03:43.56 | nkuttler | MachinaeWolf: i'd use whatever you really want to use. why care about a banchmark anway |
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| 03:45.20 | MachinaeWolf | cause idk what else to use to test the graphics card? :D |
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| 03:46.43 | nkuttler | MachinaeWolf: there is globs |
| 03:49.28 | crolab | unanimous suggest here is to watch the playboy channel and if you can spot the surgical scars -> good graphics card |
| 03:50.53 | MachinaeWolf | hahaha |
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| 04:01.06 | scottj | my laptop keyboard stops working after some medium length of time (couple hours maybe). external keyboards keep working, and if I restart X then it resumes working. No errors in syslog or Xorg log, any ideas for what to check? |
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| 04:06.51 | crolab | had that problem on another computer i installed xvkbd and just did ctrl-alt-f1 and then ctrl-alt-f7 to fix it |
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| 04:08.11 | scottj | crolab: thanks I'll try that |
| 04:09.14 | scottj | (if anyone has any ideas on cause/effect I'd definitely be interested in finding a solution in addition to this possible workaround) |
| 04:09.31 | scottj | s/effect/solution/ |
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| 04:11.03 | scottj | oh actually I did mean effect, in the where to find a clue about what's happening sense |
| 04:12.13 | justmeh | hey sup |
| 04:12.26 | justmeh | bssh package - that's the multithreaded ssh type client? |
| 04:12.43 | justmeh | ive been looking and i only see it bundled with the avahi daemon, am i blind and dumb? |
| 04:13.18 | crolab | scottj: i'm guessing i have/had a hardware problem |
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| 04:19.39 | chovy | i have a 1TB mounted at /home |
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| 04:20.11 | chovy | while / only has about 20 gigs, is it possible to have some directories use this drive? like /usr/local or /var |
| 04:21.12 | crolab | why do you have 1TB on /home? are you running some school system? |
| 04:21.52 | chovy | crolab: it's a dedicated server i lease |
| 04:21.57 | chovy | that's just how it came |
| 04:22.04 | crolab | chovy: you can make links from ln -sf /home/usr.local /usr/local |
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| 04:22.37 | chovy | crolab: ok, that's what i figured. |
| 04:23.01 | chovy | so don't put them in a users directory. That would cause permission issues. |
| 04:23.08 | crolab | be carefull though when doing it you will need to fudge names etc to move the actualy data |
| 04:23.47 | chovy | crolab: what do you mean? |
| 04:23.57 | crolab | if you can umount /home then you can repartition it yourself |
| 04:24.42 | crolab | there is the partition and then there is the mount point |
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| 04:25.53 | chovy | i'm not sure i have the skills to do that correctly |
| 04:26.00 | chovy | this is what my fs looks lie: |
| 04:26.00 | chovy | https://gist.github.com/a674c29caffabdcc0d11 |
| 04:26.07 | chovy | like* |
| 04:26.20 | crolab | are you root right now on the system |
| 04:26.27 | chovy | yeah |
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| 04:28.07 | crolab | you have 463GB of home used? how many users there? or what is in it |
| 04:28.51 | crolab | your whole / is only 17GB |
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| 04:29.58 | crolab | you sure you wont' fill the rest of the 403GB just as fast? |
| 04:30.04 | dvs | crolab: 20GB, 17GB is used. |
| 04:30.09 | crolab | in /home |
| 04:30.24 | crolab | or is it full of segfaults core dumps? lol |
| 04:31.03 | dvs | chovy: do you have physical access to the machine? |
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| 04:36.56 | justmeh | !pastebin |
| 04:36.56 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 04:38.16 | aristarchus | is this a good place to ask questions about wine? |
| 04:38.28 | justmeh | OK poor man's bssh; very limited. http://paste.debian.net/220261/ |
| 04:38.32 | dvs | #wine is |
| 04:40.25 | aristarchus | * You have been kicked from #wine by ChanServ (Invite only channel) |
| 04:40.43 | aristarchus | that's odd |
| 04:40.58 | crolab | #wine-hq |
| 04:41.06 | justmeh | lol |
| 04:41.16 | justmeh | yeah ever since that domain name change a few years ago.. |
| 04:41.17 | crolab | #winehq |
| 04:41.26 | justmeh | ^--validated |
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| 04:49.25 | chovy | dvs: no |
| 04:49.31 | chovy | i think i will just skip it |
| 04:50.08 | crolab | you running out of space |
| 04:51.50 | HardDisk_WP | hey all |
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| 04:52.12 | HardDisk_WP | i've got a dedicated server running debian testing, naturally headless (KVM would cost me quite a buck) |
| 04:53.15 | HardDisk_WP | now, i want to setup quite a number of virtual machines on it, preferrably vmware as i've got a leftover vmware workstation license |
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| 04:53.53 | HardDisk_WP | but how to do this when I only have ssh-access?! |
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| 04:54.41 | arbir | hello |
| 04:55.34 | arbir | is there any open driver for bcm4313 ? |
| 04:56.00 | arbir | so far, i see it only in non-free |
| 04:56.25 | monadicity | I am new to debian and I have no idea to do this please help |
| 04:56.30 | dvs | arbir: no |
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| 04:56.47 | monadicity | http://i.imgur.com/C2gaJ.png this thing keeps flashing forever it's driving me mad |
| 04:56.59 | arbir | dvs: ok thanks! |
| 04:57.00 | monadicity | just the iceweasel one |
| 04:57.01 | monadicity | can't I turn it off? |
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| 05:02.00 | LtL | monadicity: turn what off |
| 05:02.33 | monadicity | LtL, it is flashing all the time |
| 05:02.35 | Artemis3 | looks like the wm setting to call for attention, not sure how is done in lxde |
| 05:02.50 | monadicity | I jut want it to not flash.. I never need to be alerted to web browser |
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| 05:02.58 | monadicity | (but may be for other programs) |
| 05:03.15 | monadicity | Artemis3, yeah |
| 05:03.23 | LtL | monadicity: the iceweasel icon flashes in the panel? |
| 05:03.41 | Artemis3 | must be a setting somewhere, but i doub't you can change it for a single app, its an all or nothing deal |
| 05:04.05 | Artemis3 | other wm can flash like 3 times only or such |
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| 05:04.23 | monadicity | LtL, yeah annd it is drivingme mad |
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| 05:04.52 | crolab | that is morse code - looks like someone is asking for your email address |
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| 05:05.13 | LtL | monadicity: i've never seen it flash 'nor know a setting to do it. |
| 05:05.25 | monadicity | :( |
| 05:05.30 | LtL | monadicity: what desktop is it |
| 05:05.45 | monadicity | i dont know these terms, lxde and openbox i think |
| 05:05.46 | Artemis3 | i have seen the setting, but forgot where it is |
| 05:05.56 | atomfire | it's lxde |
| 05:06.14 | Artemis3 | its a wm feature |
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| 05:06.20 | LtL | monadicity: i'm afraid i don't know lxde |
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| 05:06.48 | arbir | can i replace wheezy with testing in my apt.sources ? |
| 05:06.52 | fluffywolf | am I missing something, or does testing contain icewm, but not icepref, iceconf, or any other way of configuring icewm? |
| 05:07.00 | dvs | arbir: don't do that. |
| 05:07.33 | Artemis3 | fluffywolf, but you have nano right? :3 |
| 05:07.46 | arbir | dvs: but if i need to upgrade to sid, then i will need to place unstable in the sources line ? |
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| 05:08.25 | fluffywolf | Artemis3: icewm's config files were an ugly mess last I checked.... and it probably counts as a bug to include a package with none of its configuration tools. :) |
| 05:08.53 | Artemis3 | fluffywolf, did you check contrib and friends? |
| 05:09.12 | dvs | arbir: Changing it to testing will automatically "upgrade" you to jessie when wheezy becomes stable. Then a whole bunch of packages will be downloaded to you. Which is what you don't want to happen. |
| 05:10.12 | arbir | dvs: i see.... but i can safely use unstable ? or should i call it sid ? |
| 05:10.56 | atomfire | arbir: what are you wanting to accomplish? |
| 05:11.00 | dvs | arbir: you can use either for unstable/sid but once you do, you cannot downgrade. |
| 05:11.11 | arbir | dvs: my idea is to make a rolling release desktop. |
| 05:11.42 | arbir | atomfire: i have this extra laptop, where i want to learn debian and i want to experiment :-) |
| 05:11.50 | dvs | arbir: That's still in the works for Debian |
| 05:12.31 | arbir | dvs: i dont care for downgrade... :-) so, i think sid should do for now. thanks! |
| 05:12.48 | atomfire | arbir: :) cool! sid breaks a lot, you might be in for more frustration than anything unless you're already very experienced |
| 05:13.19 | dvs | arbir: sid breaks and sometimes breaks badly. |
| 05:13.20 | fluffywolf | looks like the problem is none of them are currently maintained, and debian has a policy of removing anything that no one is maintaining even if it still works perfectly. |
| 05:13.24 | arbir | atomfire: i have worked a lot with arch, freebsd and netbsd. so i am willing to face the challenges. after all the goal is to learn |
| 05:13.41 | Artemis3 | fluffywolf, apparently the packages don't exist, not even in stable or unstable |
| 05:13.59 | Artemis3 | seems to be forgotten... |
| 05:14.09 | atomfire | arbir: very cool |
| 05:15.12 | arbir | atomfire: i have been reading the wiki, and i have yet to find a place where i can find all the options that i can place a source, in my apt line. just the main, contrib and non-free |
| 05:15.29 | arbir | atomfire: is there any other source/repo ? |
| 05:16.07 | atomfire | arbir: there are lots of unofficial repos, you could google for craigevil's repo list |
| 05:16.18 | Artemis3 | fluffywolf, so icewm-common has some suggestions that can't be resolved. |
| 05:16.21 | arbir | atomfire: alright, let me check it out. |
| 05:16.26 | arbir | atomfire: thanks! :-) |
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| 05:16.42 | atomfire | arbir: but I'm pretty sure that anything unofficial won't be supported in this channel :) |
| 05:16.45 | fluffywolf | yes, I noticed that. |
| 05:16.49 | atomfire | arbir: you're welcome |
| 05:17.23 | arbir | atomfire: well for now, let me just use the official ones, which are i guess main contrib and non-free. |
| 05:17.31 | fluffywolf | grrr, and I don't have a dev environment on that box (netbook), so building any of them would be a pain. |
| 05:17.35 | arbir | atomfire: is there anything else, that is officialy supported by debain ? |
| 05:17.37 | atomfire | arbir: also you might try asking in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 05:17.45 | Artemis3 | don't worry fluffywolf there is always wmaker :3 |
| 05:17.55 | arbir | atomfire: sure, i did read about #debian-net. |
| 05:18.23 | atomfire | arbir: #debian-next is for wheezy and sid support, you'd likely get some good answers in there |
| 05:18.40 | arbir | atomfire: thanks, i will! |
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| 05:20.11 | fluffywolf | looks like icewm doesn't even come with an example/template config file anymore. |
| 05:20.29 | tux-world | hi all. my kde coulnot connect to vpn. i'm installed all packages of ppptp |
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| 05:22.21 | Artemis3 | fluffywolf, maybe its time to pick an alternative? |
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| 05:22.53 | fluffywolf | wtf? sshd doesn't run by default anymore? |
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| 05:23.22 | Artemis3 | fluffywolf, thats old, install openssh-server or just ssh |
| 05:23.46 | justmeh | !blacklist |
| 05:23.46 | dpkg | To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 05:23.51 | Artemis3 | ssh will pull both server and client anyway |
| 05:24.21 | fluffywolf | that's something that should be installed when you select the standard utilities task or whatever it was called. |
| 05:24.34 | Artemis3 | not anymore ;) |
| 05:24.50 | fluffywolf | I said should, not is. |
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| 05:25.30 | justmeh | does it pull in [openssh,openssl]-blacklist ? |
| 05:25.38 | justmeh | also update ca-certificates if its not done |
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| 05:28.49 | justmeh | apt-get install openssh-blacklist* openssl-blacklist* <-- |
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| 05:30.38 | ldnblk | I have been trying to get my wifi working, I am using debian 6.0.6, compat-wireless-3.5.4-1, kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64, atheos AR5b125 network adaptor. when I use the network manager to connect to an open access, network it times out and reports that it was unable to get a ip address. when I set the ap to give a password it reports back saying that I supplied a bad password. is anyone else having |
| 05:30.38 | ldnblk | this problem. I have captured some kernel data, which can be viewed on the following links. http://pastebin.com/2Ykf0p5k , http://pastebin.com/ktSQmZFx |
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| 05:33.13 | crolab | why are you setting the ap to give a password for? |
| 05:33.54 | crolab | what is the setup on the ap ? wep/wpa/wpa2 ?? |
| 05:34.38 | ldnblk | wpa2 i believe, I am using my phone as the access point. |
| 05:36.10 | atomfire | ldnblk: can you connect to the ap on your phone with any other device? |
| 05:37.40 | ldnblk | yeah using the same laptop but running the other plug and play operating system. |
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| 05:38.44 | tux-world | my kde knetworkmanag couldnot connect to vpn |
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| 05:41.49 | crolab | you probably need wpa_supplicant for the more complex setup required |
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| 05:43.22 | justmeh | got vbox in my windows host. got debian installed as vm. installed mtr-tiny. input a few custom addy in my hosts file. cannot mtr, can ping. what gives? |
| 05:44.26 | ldnblk | :crolab have you looked at the data on the pastebin links ? |
| 05:45.24 | ldnblk | :crolab I have installed and have running wpa_supplicant. |
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| 05:46.41 | Gokee2 | How can I find a md5sum for 6.0.5? I have searched everywhere but the Debian archive does not contain any squeeze and the current does not have anything that old! |
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| 05:50.32 | crolab | ldnblk: no didn't give the link again |
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| 05:52.34 | ldnblk | :crolab http://pastebin.com/2Ykf0p5k , http://pastebin.com/ktSQmZFx |
| 05:52.55 | crolab | the : does nada btw |
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| 05:54.33 | crolab | ldnblk: what does ifconfig and iwconfig show |
| 05:57.27 | dvs | Gokee2: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.5/ |
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| 06:03.49 | ldnblk | :crolab I dont know I did not issue those commands, as I was able to see my ap and others local to me in wicd. would there be any advantage in issuing those commands ? |
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| 06:06.50 | calavera1 | Hey, quick question. |
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| 06:07.20 | calavera1 | Where would a good guide be to install Wheezy without Xorg? I mean a full guide. Like Gentoo's installer. |
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| 06:07.54 | dvs | ??? |
| 06:08.21 | dvs | calavera1: Unselect "Desktop Environment" during the install? |
| 06:08.34 | calavera1 | I get that. But where do I go from there? |
| 06:08.53 | ldnblk | :crolab does this shed anymore light as to what potentially could be the problem ? http://pastebin.com/tDvdgs4g |
| 06:08.56 | dvs | That's it. You won't get Xorg installed. |
| 06:09.39 | calavera1 | I was hoping for more of a minimal install, sort of like an easier gentoo install where everything is configured manually. |
| 06:09.46 | calavera1 | But I guess that you can't do that on Debian. |
| 06:10.12 | dvs | is even more confused. |
| 06:10.26 | cnz | somiaj you around? |
| 06:10.37 | calavera1 | What is dvs confused about? |
| 06:10.44 | dvs | calavera1: Unselecting all tasks during the install will give you a minimal install |
| 06:10.59 | Blue1 | debian seems to come with plenty of configuration |
| 06:11.16 | calavera1 | dvs: That makes more sense. |
| 06:11.35 | Blue1 | that african word that means I can;t configure debian |
| 06:11.59 | dvs | calavera1: and Desktop Environment is the only one selected by default |
| 06:12.42 | calavera1 | dvs: So where would a good place be where I could manually configure the elements in a cli environment? |
| 06:12.53 | calavera1 | Er... a good place to find a guide where.. |
| 06:14.05 | dvs | calavera1: That really depends on the package. The first place I'd look is /usr/share/doc/<package_name> |
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| 06:15.43 | calavera | dvs: Err.... |
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| 06:17.12 | crolab | calavera: start with PS1 and PATH and aliases ? |
| 06:17.55 | sdcardo | At the console, can anyone tell me the command line syntax to start X at 1024x768 at 24 bit color? |
| 06:18.25 | calavera | crolab: umm.... I don't know what you just said. I think that I'll just install Gentoo. |
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| 06:19.13 | crolab | lol yea go from a pot of boiling water to a frying pan with frying oil |
| 06:19.50 | DrakkenWarr | gentoo isn't that bad |
| 06:20.14 | dvs | !start a distro war |
| 06:20.14 | dpkg | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'. |
| 06:20.29 | crolab | sdcardo: i don't believe X is started like that - put the wanted resolution into a xorg.conf |
| 06:20.50 | DrakkenWarr | hah! dpkg.. so true |
| 06:24.35 | sdcardo | NO editing no config, please! xorg.conf does not exist and creating one from scratch is not something a desktop newbie should be asked to do |
| 06:25.21 | somiaj | sdcardo: you don't need to create a whole config, only put in the options you need. What do you need to do? |
| 06:25.32 | crolab | lol isn't there somwone screening these calls? |
| 06:25.43 | somiaj | cnz: yes why? |
| 06:26.16 | cnz | somiaj nm bud I got it fixed, but my partitons were set to 07 |
| 06:26.22 | cnz | I got it fixed and now accessable in windows |
| 06:26.34 | cnz | and didn't lose data |
| 06:26.36 | cnz | thanks for the help |
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| 06:27.56 | sdcardo | somiaj, at the console i want to be able to start X at 1024x768 at 24 bit color |
| 06:29.19 | somiaj | sdcardo: do you have a copy of and Xorg.0.log file from when you run 'startx' with no config file? Can you paste that somewhere (paste.debian.net) |
| 06:29.27 | somiaj | sdcardo: also what video card do you have? |
| 06:29.35 | somiaj | sdcardo: and what version of debian? |
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| 06:30.35 | sdcardo | somiaj, will be back later.thanks |
| 06:30.47 | tux-world | hi all. my squirrelmail mail server is subject limitted in 24 character :( |
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| 06:45.20 | chovy | what do i need to do on my server to get wordpress to be able to send emails out? |
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| 06:49.51 | arbir | hello |
| 06:50.19 | arbir | i keep getting this error on bootup --> ntel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled |
| 06:50.31 | arbir | i did check that my intel driver is installed |
| 06:51.03 | arbir | xserver-xorg-video-intel install |
| 06:51.14 | arbir | so, is there anything i am missing ? |
| 06:52.43 | crolab | arbir rmmod the driver and them modprobe it again - if this doesn;t give the error then you need to put these commands in /etc/rc.local - i have same think with b43 module - boot tries to load the module when something isn't fully ready - i didn't waste time trying to figure out what was wrong |
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| 06:53.17 | arbir | crolab: ok let me try. thanks! |
| 06:53.33 | jelly-home | arbir: can you show the whole dmesg or /var/log/kern.log lines for the current boot? Are you using a custom kernel? |
| 06:53.55 | arbir | jelly-home: no the default kernel..... |
| 06:54.06 | jelly-home | !tell arbir about paste |
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| 06:56.53 | arbir | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/NDwijCh9 |
| 06:59.19 | jelly-home | arbir: since there's a "[ 17.771490] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: i915 driver attached, reenabling gpu turbo" at line 793, I wouldn't worry about that first line too much if everything works |
| 07:00.03 | arbir | jelly-home: everything works, just that, i had kubuntu installed on this and i found the display much better. |
| 07:00.28 | arbir | jelly-home: i can tell the fonts are not as sharp right now, i have the same kde setup |
| 07:00.52 | arbir | jelly-home: so i am thinking perhaps this might have something to do with the display clarity ? |
| 07:01.34 | jelly-home | unlikely |
| 07:01.57 | arbir | jelly-home: maybe that is in my mind then |
| 07:02.03 | arbir | jelly-home: do you use kde ? |
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| 07:02.44 | jelly-home | I mean, it's unlikely the kernel warning is directly related to any resolution or font rendering issues. |
| 07:03.06 | jelly-home | arbir: which debian release are you using? |
| 07:03.11 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 07:03.12 | arbir | jelly-home: well, then now i have to search harder to figure out, why i get this feeling of my font not being as sharp |
| 07:03.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.7-trunk-686-pae (3.7.1-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.35-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.35-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.32-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
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| 07:03.31 | arbir | ,kernels |
| 07:03.32 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.7-trunk-686-pae (3.7.1-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.35-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.35-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.32-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-46); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 07:03.41 | arbir | no, wont wory for me.... :-) |
| 07:04.20 | arbir | jelly-home: Linux myhostlaptop 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.35-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:04.37 | arbir | jelly-home: i am on sid |
| 07:06.29 | HardDisk_WP | can I find out system IP without ifconfig? |
| 07:07.03 | arbir | HardDisk_WP: ip addr? |
| 07:07.14 | jelly-home | arbir: no ideas at this point; investigate which fonts you have available and freetype / fontconfig configuration |
| 07:07.19 | HardDisk_WP | cool thanks |
| 07:08.14 | arbir | jelly-home: identical config.. i use freesans as dejavu sans condensed, wont render, keeps falling back to book. |
| 07:10.44 | arbir | need to logout and back in |
| 07:10.51 | arbir | jelly-home: thanks for the help! |
| 07:15.21 | CryWolf | Setting up a new wireless card to connect on boot (for a desktop). Found the wifi pages in the wiki. That was easy. |
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| 07:19.00 | obx | if you guys really want to help out the world, please help out these two dudes, reshare and help if you can http://igg.me/p/293180/x/1992300 |
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| 07:39.26 | aah | that link looks really fishy, obx. |
| 07:40.11 | bazhang | he's long gone |
| 07:40.19 | bazhang | klined I suspect |
| 07:41.46 | aah | what does "klined" mean? |
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| 08:03.43 | crolab | is libreoffice for squeeze only available from the squeeze-backports or 'regular' squeeze? |
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| 08:16.35 | crolab | hey thanks for the help - i guess helping all your newbies means nada |
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| 08:17.05 | Cultist | or it's a bad time for most of the western hemisphere. |
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| 08:22.32 | finnix | wine under debian wheezy shows "Error initializing gl driver, check that the file 'opengl32.dll' exists" when i start cs 1.6 |
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| 08:23.32 | finnix | my debian is amd64, i install nvidia-glx and other packages including wine (both versios, amd64 and i386) |
| 08:24.36 | finnix | is the way to fix this? |
| 08:25.48 | finnix | all packages i install from official repo |
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| 08:27.24 | finnix | glxgears works, other native games too |
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| 08:27.47 | finnix | glxinfo | grep render shows nvidia extensions |
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| 08:29.04 | f8l | finnix: Have you checked winehq for tips on installing the game? |
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| 08:39.39 | GeekBlogTV | in #ubuntu |
| 08:40.28 | GeekBlogTV | rpm > deb |
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| 09:01.41 | rgr | no h264 codec parameters while trying to run electricsheep. I have libavcodec53 installed, ffmpeg and mencoder. |
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| 09:08.42 | f8l | rgr: You can try installing libavcodec-extra. |
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| 09:09.27 | rgr | its installed |
| 09:09.28 | f8l | rgr: …or gstreamer-plugins-bad… I don't know; Just shooting. |
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| 09:14.45 | f8l | rgr: Also there was a transition (rename?) from ffmpeg to libav-tools. I remember that caused me some trouble. The conversion tool is now avconv, and IIRC it parses files containing parameters differently. |
| 09:16.15 | elkng | is postfix included in debian or it has inapropriate license ? |
| 09:18.55 | f8l | ,version postfix |
| 09:18.57 | judd | Package: postfix on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.5-1.1+lenny1; lenny-security: 2.5.5-1.1+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.7.1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.7.1-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.9.1-2~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 2.9.3-2.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.9.3-2.1; sid: 2.9.5-1 |
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| 09:29.16 | rgr | seems was a nasty dependency problem. i ended up uninstalling gnome, ffmpeg, gimp, kaffeine etc in order to force reinstall libavcodec extra. that done I reinstalled those packages and all worked. strange. |
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| 09:48.10 | jackbrownhf | could anyone explain me why I'm unable to set a script to a keyboard shortcut? The same script launched in the CLI works 100% |
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| 10:21.16 | engla | jackbrownhf: does the script depepend on a terminal, maybe it's unintentionally blocking/failing? |
| 10:22.14 | jackbrownhf | engla: how can I check this ? I have another script that lower the keyboar brightness and i sat it with the same settings and it works 100%: here is the guide I followed https://github.com/ktoso/g73-keyboard-backlight-sh |
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| 10:43.29 | As001 | hello did anyone succeed in installation php runkit on Debian Wheezy ? I get nasty error when I try to install it from svn as described on php manual |
| 10:44.00 | gnarface | !wheezy |
| 10:44.01 | dpkg | The release following squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie) and will be Debian 7.0. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Ask me about <testing>, <freeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 10:44.08 | gnarface | woops |
| 10:44.11 | gnarface | wrong wone |
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| 10:44.51 | As001 | here is error: http://pastebin.com/PVtw1X51 |
| 10:45.10 | gnarface | As001: just to save you a lot of time i'm going to correct a base misunderstanding you have: the php version you check out from svn "as describe in the php manual" isn't supported in debian |
| 10:45.37 | gnarface | As001: also, wheezy is not finished yet, so it will often be randomly broken. |
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| 10:46.28 | gnarface | As001: the error you actually got is irrelevant to all of that, despite being directly caused by the circumstances |
| 10:46.57 | As001 | there is no php5 package for runkit in Debian so I was forced to install it like they say I did it successfully to squeeze but I can't in Wheezy. |
| 10:47.18 | gnarface | As001: such is the way of wheezy |
| 10:47.50 | As001 | ok |
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| 10:48.01 | gnarface | As001: you may want to check #debian-next on OFTC as there may be more wheezy-specific support/sympathy there |
| 10:48.09 | gnarface | *sigh* |
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| 10:48.18 | gnarface | they always leave so quickly |
| 10:48.21 | gnarface | so impatient |
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| 10:48.45 | gianni | !list |
| 10:48.46 | dpkg | gianni: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 12:03.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | over 200 packages to upgrade for squeeze /o\ |
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| 12:09.21 | ompaul | CutMeOwnThroat: since? |
| 12:10.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul, the update? dunno... it's probably still 6.0.6... haven't had the peace of mind to check for updates quite some time on my home machine :) |
| 12:10.58 | ompaul | ok |
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| 12:16.49 | steven68 | I have an utility which reads a file before it runs. Is there a way to detect this file which is beeing read by this program? |
| 12:17.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | steven68, lsof |
| 12:17.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | steven68, or strace if it's only a short access |
| 12:18.10 | steven68 | CutMeOwnThroat, I'll try with strace, thanks! |
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| 12:23.31 | steven68 | CutMeOwnThroat, but it looks like strace does not reveal the file beeing read. I created a file named "testfile" which contains word "Linux" and then executed "strace cat testfile": http://perl.nopaste.dk/p16585 |
| 12:24.30 | steven68 | Now I found it: open("testfile", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 |
| 12:24.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | steven68, it does not? and what is "open("testfile", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3" then? |
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| 12:24.46 | steven68 | CutMeOwnThroat, sry, my bad. |
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| 12:24.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | steven68, read manpage of strace. strace -e open might be useful |
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| 12:25.11 | ompaul | steven68: line 37 means nothing to you? |
| 12:25.34 | ompaul | the real action takes place from 34 on |
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| 12:33.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | ompaul, line 37... you don't mean rule 34? |
| 12:33.50 | ompaul | hehe |
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| 12:38.09 | dokma | will putting /tmp on a tmpfs and configuring php5 to put session files there actually gain anything considering a lot of files end up cached in memory anyway? |
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| 12:41.30 | ompaul | ram can be put under strain - if if was me for reasons you can think about later I'd have them in their own temp space |
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| 12:47.11 | dokma | ompaul: that's how I have them now. each vhost has it's own tmp folder and stores sessions there |
| 12:47.21 | dokma | but this makes using tmpfs for session impossible |
| 12:52.12 | ompaul | dokma: nfs export a place on the local box for them all |
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| 12:53.11 | ompaul | dokma: but really I prefer the idea that everything is as separate |
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| 13:00.03 | ompaul | dokma: if it is really an issue and you don't already have them get 15k scsi disks and have that ready for the next downtime |
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| 13:00.28 | ompaul | dokma: and test them in another box and get your drivers and the rest ready |
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| 13:34.25 | steven68 | Is there a possibility to make a specific file in /root directory readable for all the users? I tried with this, but no luck: http://perl.nopaste.dk/p16588 |
| 13:35.38 | iceroot | steven68: sudo chown u+r filename |
| 13:36.37 | iceroot | ... |
| 13:37.24 | iceroot | steven68: sudo chmod o+w filename |
| 13:37.29 | Walex2 | steven68: it is possible, but be careful about the directory permissions |
| 13:37.40 | Walex2 | iceroot: unlucky twice |
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| 13:37.57 | iceroot | Walex2: ok here is the 3. one |
| 13:38.00 | iceroot | steven68: sudo chmod o+r filename |
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| 13:38.15 | iceroot | i need much sleep as it seems |
| 13:38.19 | Walex2 | iceroot: half lucky third time. What about directory permissions? |
| 13:38.31 | Walex2 | iceroot: sleep is fabulous :-) |
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| 13:38.38 | Walex2 | iceroot: try it sometime :-) |
| 13:38.47 | steven68 | iceroot, Walex2: shouldn't file permissions override directory permissions as file permissions are more specific? |
| 13:38.48 | iceroot | i will try it now :) |
| 13:39.18 | Walex2 | steven68: no, that is nonsensical. |
| 13:39.43 | Walex2 | steven68: but to access a ditectory entry the directory has to be searchable. |
| 13:39.45 | ChrisH | steven68: what are the permissions of /root ? |
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| 13:40.35 | ChrisH | steven68: chmod 644 /root/testfile is sufficent, if /root has enough read permissions for user marton |
| 13:40.44 | ChrisH | s/marton/martin |
| 13:41.05 | steven68 | ChrisH, permissions for root directory are "drwx------ 20 root root 4096 Dec 30 14:20 /root/" |
| 13:41.07 | Walex2 | ChrisH: it is not read permissions... |
| 13:41.36 | Walex2 | ChrisH: the directory has to be *searchable*. |
| 13:41.46 | ChrisH | then it will never work without ACL... and I do not recommend to use ACLs. chmod 755 /root is an option. |
| 13:42.04 | ChrisH | Walex2: define searchable? you mean x ? |
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| 13:42.17 | Walex2 | ChrisH: that's searchable. |
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| 13:43.02 | steven68 | Walex2, ChrisH: yes, if I change /root directory permissions to "drwx-----x 20 root root 4096 Dec 30 14:20 /root/" then I'm able to cat the /root/testfile under normal user |
| 13:43.04 | ChrisH | that is not needed here. chmod 744 does work if you know the filename. 755 will allow 'cd /root' 744 does not |
| 13:43.25 | Walex2 | 'readable' means that one can list the names in a directory but not open the files referenced in it, searchable the opposite. |
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| 13:43.42 | Walex2 | steven68: got it. |
| 13:44.28 | ChrisH | urgs? Thats not what I expected... need to verify that ;-) |
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| 13:46.35 | Walex2 | steven68: note that changing *only* the "other" searchable permission does not mean that all users can search the directory; it mans that only users not in the 'root' group (other than the owner) can search it. |
| 13:46.38 | dokma | ompaul: thank you! |
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| 13:47.15 | ChrisH | Walex2,steven68 you are right. at least on Linux it does not work with chmod 701 /root ... I would have bet on that |
| 13:47.45 | Walex2 | ChrisH: it worked the same way on a PDP-11 in 1978 :-). |
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| 13:48.18 | ChrisH | Looks like I teached it wrong all the past years :( |
| 13:48.27 | ChrisH | time for lunch |
| 13:48.51 | steven68 | ChrisH, Walex2: I tested this as well: http://nopaste.dk/p16589 That's wierd that readable means "allow to search directory" and searchable means "allow to read file" :) |
| 13:49.31 | Walex2 | ChrisH: it is a very subtle point, like the one I just made before, that "other" permissions do not apply to the "group" (or the "user" either). |
| 13:50.07 | Walex2 | steven68: it is not weird at all if one understands how UNIX style filesystems work, which almost nobody does. |
| 13:50.16 | Towzzer | "You there computer man, fix my pants. Pull down my trousers and do your job" -it crowd |
| 13:50.43 | Walex2 | steven68: the main characteristic of UNIX style filesystems is that files don't have names, only directory entries have names. |
| 13:51.25 | Walex2 | steven68: so 'r' permission on a directrory allow you to read the names of directory entries, and 'x' permissions allow to open the file referenced in the directory entry. |
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| 13:52.29 | Walex2 | steven68: in cruder words, 'r' applies to the name side of an entry, and 'x' to the inum side of an entry. |
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| 13:55.09 | Towzzer | walex- if a file is other executable in a directory where you don't have any permissions, are you still able to execute it? |
| 13:55.12 | steven68 | Walex2, ok, thank you for this explanation! |
| 13:55.16 | Towzzer | assuming you are another user |
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| 13:57.21 | Walex2 | Towzzer: the answer is more subtle than you probably think. |
| 13:58.16 | Walex2 | Towzzer: the file is certainly "other" executable, but it does not *matter* because you cannot access it via that directory. |
| 13:58.40 | Walex2 | Towzzer: if the file can be accessed via another directory entry that does allow access than it can be executed. |
| 13:58.50 | Towzzer | you just need other execute permission on that directory |
| 13:58.58 | Towzzer | not read, read would be needed to list the directory |
| 13:59.54 | Walex2 | Towzzer: yes, but note that the same file may have a directory entry in another, already accessible directory. |
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| 14:01.10 | Walex2 | so it is possible, and sometimes very useful, to combine directory and file permissions to do special cases, but one has to be sure that the file is listed in one directory only. |
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| 14:03.41 | Towzzer | interesting |
| 14:05.18 | Walex2 | note that the file can be listed multiple times in that directory, but it does not matter because 'r' and 'x' on a directory apply equally to all entries in it. |
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| 14:17.38 | schoppenhauer | hello. I am currently trying to install debian on a usermode-qemu, and I would like not to use VNC. however, qemu's terminal-emulation does not work because the default debian configuration is to have a framebuffer now, and even though I remove the emulated graphic card and add a serial device, it seems not to be used. |
| 14:17.40 | pclov3r | Anybdoy know if the propitarty nvidia driver supports gpu boost on the 600 series cards? |
| 14:18.23 | Walex2 | pclov3r: those are very old cards aren't they? |
| 14:18.44 | pclov3r | no nvidia 600 seires is the newest nvidia serires |
| 14:18.50 | pclov3r | i have a GTX 670 |
| 14:19.14 | pclov3r | They support a feture called gpu boost where the core clock of the gpu is boosted. |
| 14:19.21 | pclov3r | I believe it's done driver level. |
| 14:20.02 | schoppenhauer | there are nofb-arguments, but how do I make debian use non-fb-mode by default? |
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| 14:21.05 | wols | schoppenhauer: by editing the kernel parameters for whatever you use to start the kernel |
| 14:21.27 | pclov3r | I guess it would be supported? |
| 14:21.32 | txomon | is there any backport tutorial? I am trying to learn how to backport a package from sid to stable.. |
| 14:21.33 | txomon | experimental* to stable |
| 14:22.27 | pclov3r | I might insteall the nvidia driver from sid |
| 14:22.30 | pclov3r | install |
| 14:22.38 | schoppenhauer | wols: so I have to extract the iso-image? |
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| 14:26.12 | wols | schoppenhauer: there is a boot prompt when the ISO starts where you can use your desired option, like no framebuffer |
| 14:26.18 | wols | schoppenhauer: are you using netinst? |
| 14:26.31 | Towzzer | I hate the framebuffer |
| 14:26.37 | Towzzer | should be disabled unless you are using a gui |
| 14:27.08 | schoppenhauer | wols: yes, netinst |
| 14:27.20 | schoppenhauer | Towzzer: yes, that would be good. |
| 14:27.37 | schoppenhauer | wols: the framebuffer is activated _immediately_ |
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| 14:28.01 | LibertarianBroci | Hello! |
| 14:28.01 | schoppenhauer | wols: that is stupid, but well, it is so. how can I change this? is there some key combo? |
| 14:28.02 | Towzzer | I have some KVMs and I can't use them anymore |
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| 14:30.50 | Walex2 | Towzzer: the framebuffer is loved by many because it allows display the penguin logoes and cooler boot backgrounds and menus. |
| 14:31.16 | Towzzer | but that's so minor compared to other issues |
| 14:31.21 | Walex2 | hates cool background and menus |
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| 14:31.47 | EmleyMoor | I don't mind its presence or absence so long as it doesn't get in my way... ditto pulseaudio |
| 14:31.55 | Walex2 | Towzzer: oh sure, if all the effort that had gone into Plymouth had gone into making booting better documented and more robust. |
| 14:31.59 | alkul | The framebuffer is great for other uses as well (minimal systems can use mplayer or netsurf). |
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| 14:32.18 | txomon | did someone reply me? I got disconnected several times... |
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| 14:32.52 | Walex2 | Towzzer: but you can do a demo of how cool Plymouth looks at an interview, you cannot wow people with a demo of much better you made the documentation or more robust and simpler the boot sequence |
| 14:33.04 | schoppenhauer | wols: how can I make this? |
| 14:33.04 | wols | schoppenhauer: read the install guide |
| 14:33.06 | wols | schoppenhauer: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen |
| 14:33.33 | Towzzer | I don't know what plymouth is |
| 14:33.45 | Towzzer | what is the boot option to disable the framebuffer |
| 14:33.47 | Towzzer | nofb? |
| 14:33.54 | wols | Towzzer: read the link |
| 14:34.27 | Towzzer | thanks |
| 14:34.42 | Walex2 | Towzzer: lucky man who has not encountered Plymouth yet :-) |
| 14:37.12 | schoppenhauer | wols: ok, thanks. |
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| 14:40.22 | schoppenhauer | wols: but actually, I have to type CTRL-C instead of Esc |
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| 14:44.03 | neon__ | is it possible to have applets in gnome3? |
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| 14:45.57 | zykotick9 | alkul: fbi, mplayer and links2 are excellent framebuffer uses ;) Walex2 |
| 14:46.18 | Towzzer | what do you think is better right now |
| 14:46.20 | Towzzer | cinnamon or mate |
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| 14:48.20 | zykotick9 | Towzzer: well, seeing as cinnamon is currently in unstable, that says something to it's quality... (i don't use either) |
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| 14:48.49 | Towzzer | I think I like the mate start menu better |
| 14:48.57 | Towzzer | I'm not a fan of icons without text labels |
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| 14:50.19 | alkul | zykotick9: indeed (I prefer netsurf to links2 though). |
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| 14:55.02 | zykotick9 | alkul: i've never heard of netsurf before (thanks) but I haven't found solution to "unable to open mouse" yet in FB mode. looks nice in X though. |
| 14:57.04 | goose | In Squeeze, under Keyboard Shortcuts, there was a shortcut to launch a terminal; I don't see it in wheezy, how can I get it back? |
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| 14:59.00 | alkul | zykotick9: strange, it seems to work fine here, on wheezy. Maybe gpm-related? |
| 14:59.42 | zykotick9 | alkul: i'm on wheezy, 1st think i did was disable gpm... thanks though. |
| 15:00.01 | zykotick9 | s/think/thing/ |
| 15:00.49 | alkul | zykotick9, uh oh: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=684028 |
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| 15:26.56 | ompaul | dokma: tyw |
| 15:27.06 | ompaul | dokma: yw to be exact P) |
| 15:27.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions ekiga |
| 15:27.19 | judd | Package: ekiga on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.12-1+nmu1; squeeze: 3.2.7-2; sid: 3.2.7-5+b1; wheezy: 3.2.7-5+b1; experimental: 4.0.0-1 |
| 15:27.27 | ompaul | :-) (doh stuff in way of keyboard) |
| 15:27.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | coffee? |
| 15:28.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, ekiga 3.2.7 perhaps time to go to wheezy |
| 15:30.08 | ompaul | sherbet lemons |
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| 15:40.36 | steven68 | In case I execute following command: "sudo strace -e trace=open iwlist wlan1 scan >/dev/null" then are both strace and iwlist ran as a root user? |
| 15:41.13 | Walex2 | steven68: yes. |
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| 15:42.54 | steven68 | Walex2, ok :) I would like to run strace as a root used and iwlist as a non-root user. I guess I need to change the executable permissions for strace in this case. |
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| 15:43.29 | Walex2 | steven68: no. you can do something like 'sudo .... sudo -u .... ....' |
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| 15:44.05 | steven68 | Walex2, of course, thanks! |
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| 15:44.47 | DYSW | How do i search for a directory via the terminal ? I have tried the grep command but its not working out just as i hoped. |
| 15:45.14 | ChrisH | DYSW: find . -name DIRNAME -type f |
| 15:45.18 | ChrisH | DYSW: find . -name DIRNAME -type d |
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| 15:45.34 | DYSW | ChrisH: Nice. and i dont have to specify were to search ? |
| 15:46.06 | steven68 | DYSW, "." means you will search starting from the directory where you are located. |
| 15:46.11 | PerfDave | DYSW: grep searches for strings within file. find searches directory trees for files and directories which meet specific criteria. "locate" may also help you. |
| 15:46.14 | ChrisH | DYSW: you do specify with the . current direytory. or find / ... |
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| 15:46.19 | PerfDave | DYSW: What directory are you looking for |
| 15:46.44 | DYSW | tor_data is the directory called. i have no idea were it its within my hd |
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| 15:47.14 | DYSW | thx to both of you. I hope i can find it |
| 15:47.41 | PerfDave | DYSW: Is that something to do with tor, by any chance? |
| 15:47.49 | Walex2 | DYSW: note that many systems have 'locate' installed, so you can search for stuff far more quickly (even if it is a bit out of date). |
| 15:47.51 | DYSW | Sure |
| 15:48.33 | DYSW | Found it with locate tor_data simple. lol |
| 15:48.53 | steven68 | Walex2, on a second thought, I'm afraid "sudo strace -e trace=open sudo -u martin iwlist wlan1 scan" does not work because then "strace" is analyzing the "sudo" command and not the "iwlist" command. |
| 15:49.08 | Walex2 | steven68: '-f' |
| 15:49.30 | Walex2 | steven68: 'strace -f' |
| 15:50.22 | steven68 | Walex2, ok, thank you! |
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| 15:50.58 | steven68 | I'm not very familiar with sudo, but it makes sanse that it forks a chilt process :) |
| 15:54.34 | DYSW | Thx guys. Always good help to find here |
| 15:55.25 | ompaul | steven68: for that reason su - to the user on the box and then run strace |
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| 16:04.05 | mesuutt | hi, I bought a notebook. Model of the notebook Asus K55VJ-SX077D. I installed debian squeeze. Wireless not working.How can I install wireless driver(Which driver for my notebook,I dont know what should I searh on google.I cant find what should I search on google ). |
| 16:04.12 | mesuutt | These are commands I run and outpust of commands: |
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| 16:04.19 | mesuutt | lspci : http://pastie.org/5597581 |
| 16:04.26 | mesuutt | lspci -vmmnn : http://pastie.org/5597574 |
| 16:04.27 | mesuutt | lspci -vv -s 03:00.0 : http://pastie.org/5597582 |
| 16:04.36 | mesuutt | Where can I find driver for my wireless card? |
| 16:05.04 | mesuutt | I cant see wireless card with ifconfig command. |
| 16:05.18 | mesuutt | I know little english.Hope you understand me |
| 16:05.39 | kunglao | that's a common problem, doesn't it say what kind of wireless card you have in the manual ? |
| 16:06.07 | kunglao | try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-wireless-driver-chipset/ |
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| 16:09.15 | mesuutt | lspci | grep -i wireless command not give any output |
| 16:10.18 | mesuutt | modinfo iwlagn output : http://pastie.org/5597615 |
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| 16:12.21 | kunglao | mesuutt |
| 16:12.25 | kunglao | do you have network access? |
| 16:12.41 | mesuutt | yes but with cable |
| 16:12.45 | mesuutt | not wireless |
| 16:13.00 | kunglao | good |
| 16:13.03 | kunglao | that should help |
| 16:13.11 | kunglao | this should help you: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 16:13.22 | kunglao | try installing wireless-tools |
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| 16:14.21 | mesuutt | wireless-tools installed |
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| 16:14.51 | mesuutt | but I dont know What my wireless's model |
| 16:14.59 | mesuutt | module name |
| 16:15.45 | terr1 | looks like AR9485WB-EG Wireless Network Adapter ? |
| 16:16.01 | terr1 | not sure though.. that was what I could dust up |
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| 16:17.47 | luv | hi everyone, im writing a patch for my distribution provided package and when I run dpkg-buildpackag all works fine and I get the binary packages I want - suprisingly smooth :-) |
| 16:17.50 | luv | now ... |
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| 16:18.37 | luv | when I run dpkg-buildpackage -nc the second time around (because i dont fancy recompiling it every time ;-) ) the package is not recompiled ;-) |
| 16:19.16 | luv | http://pastebin.com/yWw8L8tu |
| 16:19.56 | luv | so i would like to rebuild the package and get new binary .deb packages without recompiling the whole beast (even though it's quite fast)... im afk now so please pm or highlight the answer, thanks |
| 16:19.58 | mesuutt | terr1: Should this is my wireless network adapter? |
| 16:20.06 | terr1 | mesuutt: Thats my Guess |
| 16:20.56 | mesuutt | How you can say that,This is writing anaywhere? |
| 16:21.01 | terr1 | should be the ath9k driver |
| 16:21.05 | mesuutt | hmm |
| 16:21.40 | terr1 | modprobe ath9k does nothing? |
| 16:21.41 | mesuutt | how can I determine is that I should install? |
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| 16:22.03 | mesuutt | terr1: no |
| 16:22.40 | terr1 | The PCI Device ID is 168c:0032 = AR9485 |
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| 16:23.34 | zykotick9 | mesuutt: does "lspci -vnn | grep -i eth" show your wireless? and if so what is the pciid (looks like 8086:4222) |
| 16:24.38 | terr1 | might just show the wired card.. does at my pc |
| 16:24.40 | mesuutt | zykotick9: the command ony print network card 04:00.2 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 0a) |
| 16:25.04 | mesuutt | yes |
| 16:25.21 | zykotick9 | mesuutt: if you've greped for both wireless and eth - i don't have any other suggestions. this is a pci and not usb right? |
| 16:25.38 | terr1 | What kernel version does squeeze use? |
| 16:25.42 | terr1 | (uname -r) |
| 16:25.50 | txomon | is there any release date for wheezy as stable? |
| 16:25.51 | terr1 | might be to old |
| 16:25.59 | zykotick9 | txomon: when it's ready. |
| 16:26.03 | mesuutt | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 16:26.15 | txomon | zykotick9, which is the actual state of readiness? |
| 16:26.21 | terr1 | question is if its to old to support the chipset |
| 16:26.29 | zykotick9 | txomon: when rc bugs = 0 ;) |
| 16:27.02 | txomon | zykotick9, I didn't ask which is the condition, I asked which is the actual state of bugs :D |
| 16:27.13 | txomon | s/bugs/readiness/ |
| 16:27.34 | kunglao | why dont you use a newer one mesuutt |
| 16:27.40 | Towzzer | txomon - feb/march 2013~ |
| 16:27.44 | terr1 | My guess is the kernel is too old |
| 16:27.49 | zykotick9 | txomon: http://bit.ly/YV9jm4 |
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| 16:28.32 | mesuutt | zykotick9: I dont understand you. pci and usb? |
| 16:28.49 | zykotick9 | mesuutt: is it a pci card or a usb card? |
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| 16:29.32 | mesuutt | I dont plug in any usb. I think this is pci :) |
| 16:29.55 | zykotick9 | mesuutt: if it's internal it's probably pci. but you could try "lsusb | grep -i eth" |
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| 16:29.57 | txomon | ty zykotick9 and Towzzer |
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| 16:30.47 | terr1 | mesuutt: Update your kernel or use Debian testing.. Then im 99% sure it will work |
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| 16:31.09 | mesuutt | terr1: Ok, I will try |
| 16:31.43 | mesuutt | I want to ask a more question |
| 16:31.49 | terr1 | Squeeze is rather old.. newer hardware is not supported |
| 16:31.56 | terr1 | (kernel wise) :) |
| 16:32.24 | mesuutt | the laptop has nvidia optimus technology. |
| 16:32.31 | Walex2 | or you can use 'debian-backports' and get a 3.2.0 line kernel. |
| 16:32.48 | terr1 | that would prob. do the trick driver wise |
| 16:33.12 | mesuutt | I cant open x when I try to install arch, but I can open x with squeeze. |
| 16:33.39 | mesuutt | How it is possible? squeeze how to work ? |
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| 16:34.04 | terr1 | squeeze prob. uses the correct driver? |
| 16:35.18 | mesuutt | How can I determine which gpu I use? nvidia or internel intel ? |
| 16:35.53 | somiaj | mesuutt: if you are in X, you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what it detected/loaded |
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| 16:36.00 | somiaj | or if you had run X |
| 16:36.09 | mesuutt | I am asking stupid questions, because I cant tell you exactly what I think because I know little english :) |
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| 16:36.19 | zykotick9 | Memphis: you might want to see http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
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| 16:37.33 | zykotick9 | mesuutt: sorry TAB fail see my message above to M-emphis |
| 16:38.49 | mesuutt | zykotick9: I cant understand? what you mean? |
| 16:39.00 | _niCe_ | can some one tell me wtf i'm doing wrong? https://paste.debian.net/220357/ |
| 16:41.05 | terr1 | mesuutt: Bumblebee is a community driven project that has created a "driver" for NVIDIA Optimus, that allows it to switch between onboard and nvidia when needed.. NVIDIA is also working on a driver but is slow as hell |
| 16:41.12 | zykotick9 | _niCe_: have you tried with device and mount point? |
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| 16:41.48 | _niCe_ | zykotick9 no, only mount point |
| 16:41.53 | mesuutt | terry1: when nvidia complete driver? |
| 16:42.48 | zykotick9 | _niCe_: what was a rhetorical question in a way. did you try it? |
| 16:42.49 | terr1 | mesuutt: Who knows ppl have been bitching about it for a long time :) There are articles about it from this september |
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| 16:43.12 | _niCe_ | no change, doesn't help |
| 16:43.45 | terr1 | mesuutt: The Bumblebee project has a guide on how to install it on debian |
| 16:44.06 | germanxn | hi |
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| 16:44.23 | mesuutt | terry1: thanks for helps |
| 16:44.35 | zykotick9 | _niCe_: is it possible to unmount the volume? is fsck required? |
| 16:44.36 | mesuutt | zykotick9: thanks for helps |
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| 16:45.26 | _niCe_ | zykotick9: umount /var/backups && mount -a => works again >.< |
| 16:45.40 | _niCe_ | don't know what that was |
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| 16:45.48 | mesuutt | Now I will upgrade to testing |
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| 16:47.38 | germanxn | im trying to install 64 bit debian 6.0.6 |
| 16:47.57 | germanxn | i get a kernel panic when booting |
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| 16:48.01 | germanxn | any idea? |
| 16:49.09 | germanxn | playing with grub, it had booted when i execute exit |
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| 16:50.02 | germanxn | im not shure what i did to get it booted :-( |
| 16:50.11 | germanxn | (sorry about my english) |
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| 16:52.47 | germanxn | hi? |
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| 16:53.07 | hashem | your english is fine. Have you tried debian wheezy? |
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| 16:56.04 | germanxn | no, i didnt |
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| 16:56.22 | germanxn | i wanted to have a stable version |
| 16:57.05 | germanxn | mainly because im too noob with linux |
| 16:57.54 | germanxn | this is the first exception i see |
| 16:57.56 | germanxn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.06 | wols | germanxn: what hardware is this? |
| 16:58.26 | germanxn | core2duo |
| 16:58.29 | wols | and what kind of install is this? |
| 16:58.30 | germanxn | 8gb |
| 16:58.51 | germanxn | i downloaded just the first cd |
| 16:58.56 | wols | do you have a windows dynamic disk there? |
| 16:59.17 | germanxn | i have a win7 partition |
| 16:59.29 | wols | that's not what I asked |
| 16:59.46 | germanxn | sorry |
| 17:00.20 | germanxn | whats a windows dynamic disk? |
| 17:00.38 | wols | mainy a special form of windows disk |
| 17:00.43 | wols | or rather, partition |
| 17:02.05 | germanxn | mm, its a common hard drive with a ntfs win7 partition. 4 gb swap, 80 gb ext 3 |
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| 17:02.22 | wols | boot windows, run diskmgmt.msc and check if it's a basic or a dynamic disk |
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| 17:03.32 | germanxn | ok, ill boot with hiren. grub get the mbr |
| 17:03.37 | germanxn | :-( |
| 17:04.41 | wols | don't just yet |
| 17:04.46 | wols | so you can boot debian? |
| 17:05.09 | germanxn | i did it one time |
| 17:05.18 | wols | what comes up when you boot? |
| 17:05.48 | germanxn | when i get the kernel panic? |
| 17:06.17 | wols | for example |
| 17:06.27 | germanxn | when i boot ok, i got the gnome login :-) jeje |
| 17:06.45 | germanxn | i crash on the first line |
| 17:07.11 | germanxn | first line is like "booting..." |
| 17:07.13 | wols | when linux is decompressing the kernel? |
| 17:07.23 | wols | and it crashes on the booting line? |
| 17:07.36 | germanxn | sda:<3>ldm_parse_privhead(): Cannot find PRIVHEAD structure. LDM database is corrupt. Aborting. |
| 17:07.54 | germanxn | and a large stack trace |
| 17:08.09 | wols | that would mean your disk uses logical disk manager aka dynamic disks |
| 17:08.27 | wols | at least this is an error message related to that |
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| 17:09.05 | germanxn | in the grub menu, i see "insmod ext2" |
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| 17:09.15 | germanxn | the linux partition is ext3 |
| 17:09.38 | germanxn | is that ok? |
| 17:09.44 | wols | it's possible to boot from it apparently but it would be an advanced setup. might be easier to switch windows back to basic. but that might mean a windows reinstall |
| 17:09.50 | wols | yes that's ok |
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| 17:11.02 | germanxn | im wondering how i get it to boot |
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| 17:11.19 | germanxn | i was playing with commands like acpi -e |
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| 17:12.41 | germanxn | i booted again! |
| 17:12.43 | germanxn | lol |
| 17:12.46 | germanxn | wtf |
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| 17:13.43 | wols | and what did you do? |
| 17:14.02 | germanxn | i go to the grub menu |
| 17:14.09 | germanxn | acpi |
| 17:14.13 | germanxn | acpi --help |
| 17:14.15 | germanxn | acpi -e |
| 17:14.17 | germanxn | exit |
| 17:14.44 | germanxn | one time i did : acpi -e |
| 17:14.46 | germanxn | exit |
| 17:15.00 | germanxn | and it didnt work O.o |
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| 17:37.12 | germanxn | how to use wpa2 |
| 17:37.14 | germanxn | apt-get install wpasupplicant |
| 17:37.28 | germanxn | are you serious? lol |
| 17:37.41 | germanxn | i cant connect to internet!! |
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| 17:38.19 | wols | connect via ethernet to get them. |
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| 17:38.39 | wols | upcoming wheezy finally ships with wpasupplicant on the installer |
| 17:38.42 | wols | took look enough :( |
| 17:38.52 | ghost75 | do you when wheezy will be final ? |
| 17:38.57 | ghost75 | +know |
| 17:38.58 | wols | !wwwr |
| 17:38.58 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release, but I can say that it will be sooner if you help. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. Wheezy was frozen on June 30th, 2012 -- ask me about <freeze>. If you'd like wheezy to release sooner rather than later, perhaps you could help squash some <rc bugs>! |
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| 17:39.10 | ghost75 | :) |
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| 17:39.23 | Arrowmaster | !wheezy pool |
| 17:39.23 | dpkg | See <wheezy pool 1> for bets placed on when Wheezy will release. To add one, ask me about <wheezy bet>. |
| 17:39.28 | Arrowmaster | !wheezy pool 1 |
| 17:39.29 | dpkg | ! rizlah=2013-01-02 bolt=2013-04-01 TCW=2013-02-17 bab1len=2013-05-04 cousin_luigi=2013-01-14 tremon=2013-01-26 je11y=2013-05-07 comps=2013-02-20 m1|=2013-06-13 chealer=2012-12-20 jordanm=2013-08-21 peterrooney=2013-02-08 Arrowmaster=2012-12-12 s1monr7n=2013-03-23 themi11=2013-03-15 abrotman=2013-06-01 |
| 17:40.18 | ghost75 | !wheezy bet 2013-03-03 |
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| 17:50.38 | ghost75 | i updated libc and i think that broke postfix, would you update kernel or postfix version to fix this? |
| 17:51.38 | ghost75 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626928 |
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| 17:53.55 | dorphalsig | Hello, I'm tryingto build a package from an upstream source. However when running svn-buildpackage I'm getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/220373/ |
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| 17:58.30 | edju | Running testing. Optical drive died, and I want to install testing on a usb external hd. If anyone has a pointer to a good guide, i'd appreciate it. I can't seem to find one. |
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| 17:59.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, installation guide |
| 17:59.52 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
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| 18:00.12 | zophy | hmm.. lsmod shows an nvidia module that is 11 MB in size |
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| 18:01.22 | Artemis3 | thats about the correct size |
| 18:01.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | edju, it's a normal install to a disk. if you don't have cd, do a usb install. consider how to boot |
| 18:01.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, usb install |
| 18:01.30 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 18:02.25 | zophy | Artemis3: were you responding to me ? |
| 18:02.38 | Artemis3 | yup |
| 18:02.42 | zophy | thanks |
| 18:02.46 | zophy | seems big |
| 18:02.57 | Artemis3 | blobs are |
| 18:03.07 | dorphalsig | Hello, I'm tryingto build a package from an upstream source. However when running svn-buildpackage I'm getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/220373/ |
| 18:03.30 | Artemis3 | mine is showing: nvidia 9367655 52 |
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| 18:15.38 | germanxn | now i cant get a public wirless to work... i thinks ubuntu fits better to me :-( |
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| 18:18.15 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: It's calling gcc with a command-line option it doesn't recognise? |
| 18:18.33 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: Is this asterisk that you're trying to build? |
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| 18:19.06 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: it seems like its not understanding LDFLAGS and yes its asterisk I'm trying to build |
| 18:19.24 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: Why are you trying to build asterisk from upstream rather than using the Debian packages? |
| 18:19.30 | samba35 | how to convert dmg to iso |
| 18:19.37 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: because there is no package for asterisk 11.1 |
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| 18:19.50 | PerfDave | !versions asterisk |
| 18:20.03 | dorphalsig | is trying to work with debian-voip team to make this happen |
| 18:20.07 | PerfDave | Damn, packages.debian.net is down |
| 18:20.17 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: I suggest talking with them about how to build the packages then :) |
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| 18:20.31 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: They told me "good luck with that" |
| 18:20.37 | dorphalsig | because they have the exact same problem |
| 18:20.38 | dorphalsig | :) |
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| 18:21.47 | Aleksander | Hello - can I install binutils:i386 on my 64-bit sid without removing 64-bit one? |
| 18:21.49 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: The latest package built is 1.8 |
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| 18:23.33 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: Weren't there licensing issues with asterisk? ISTR it forking and Debian going with the fork. |
| 18:25.05 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: not that I'm aware of... what I know is that the latest asterisk build includes pjproject bundled and it seems like that goes against debian packing policy |
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| 18:25.49 | PerfDave | I seem to remember something like that. It'd be worth checking the debian-legal archives, perhaps. |
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| 18:26.21 | PerfDave | But if you are working with the debian-voip team, they should be able to help you with packaging issues. |
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| 18:27.16 | PerfDave | Ah yeah, Asterisk forked in 2005 to OpenPBX, which seems to have been renamed Callweaver because somebody had a trademark on OpenPBX |
| 18:27.40 | ghost75 | why do you need asterisk 11 ? |
| 18:27.54 | dorphalsig | ghost75: bridging sip and google talk |
| 18:28.01 | PerfDave | Although CallWeaver seems to be pretty stagnant. Anyway, the debian-voip team should know all of this. |
| 18:28.04 | ghost75 | should work with 1.8 too |
| 18:28.09 | PerfDave | I thought Google Talk used SIP? |
| 18:28.19 | ghost75 | no sip |
| 18:28.21 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: Nope |
| 18:28.37 | dorphalsig | ghost75: its asterisk 10 that has a first version |
| 18:28.46 | dorphalsig | but it had some issues that have been resolved in 11 |
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| 18:29.53 | ghost75 | google talk has interesting tarifes for far calls |
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| 18:30.47 | ghost75 | only know that 1.8 supports google talk |
| 18:30.53 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: Have you asked in #debian-voip on OFTC? That's the IRC channel for the pkg-voip team who maintain asterisk in Debian. |
| 18:31.07 | ghost75 | asterisk in debian is just plain old |
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| 18:31.57 | dorphalsig | PerfDave: Yeah, as I said before I'm trying to work with them |
| 18:32.15 | dorphalsig | I guess I'll just post this into the debian voip list |
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| 18:33.10 | PerfDave | dorphalsig: I can't see how anybody here is going to be better at helping you at packaging asterisk for Debian, than the team who package asterisk for Debian TBH. |
| 18:33.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | wasn't there some command with which i could check if I can install the ekiga from experimental into squeeze or will go straight to hell trying? |
| 18:33.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | some command for judd* |
| 18:33.55 | ws2k33 | what is the default location for the web files in nginx? |
| 18:34.11 | sney | CutMeOwnThroat, it checks if you can *build* aka backport the ekiga from experimental. installing binaries from other branches onto stable is never recommended |
| 18:34.16 | sney | ,checkbackport ekiga |
| 18:34.17 | judd | Backporting package ekiga in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
| 18:34.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | sney, well, not "never" but... yes, I know |
| 18:35.33 | sney | ok, other branches that aren't stable-backports or occasionally oldstable |
| 18:36.22 | PerfDave | ghost75: Hmm, Debian seems to be tracking the 1.8 branch pretty closely. I'm sure with more volunteers like dorphalsig they'll do better though :) |
| 18:36.35 | PerfDave | (and FWIW, good on dorphalsig for stepping up to the plate!) |
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| 18:36.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | sney, if it's just python stuff, no problem. if it doesn't pull in any libs, it can only be broken itself but doesn't break stuff all over the place, etc. I wouldn't recommend it to other people in here in any case either, though :) |
| 18:37.24 | dorphalsig | Thanks |
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| 18:37.50 | ws2k33 | what is wise to do install nginx from debian repo or compile it myself |
| 18:37.56 | ws2k33 | i see that the debian repo is very far behind |
| 18:38.05 | ghost75 | asterisk 11 is still very new |
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| 18:38.32 | sney | ,v nginx |
| 18:38.34 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2; sid: 1.2.6-1 |
| 18:38.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, checkbackport ekiga --fromrelease experimental |
| 18:38.48 | judd | Backporting package ekiga in experimental→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libpt-dev (>= 2.10.9~), libopal-dev (>= 3.10.9~). |
| 18:39.17 | sney | ws2k33, if you want to use nginx 1.2 on debian 6, use it from squeeze-backports |
| 18:39.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | sney, thanks for the command |
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| 18:39.43 | PerfDave | ws2k33: Hmm, the version of nginx in sid was released on 11th December, 18 days ago. |
| 18:39.46 | sney | CutMeOwnThroat, no problem. you can also check it in a query window e.g. /msg judd checkbackport foo |
| 18:40.08 | sney | PerfDave, people don't usually run sid on webservers. (and with good reason) |
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| 18:40.30 | sney | but squeeze-backports has 1.2.1 so that should be new enough |
| 18:40.39 | PerfDave | sney: True. But then, the people who know not to run sid on webservers know that newer is rarely better :) |
| 18:41.17 | sney | yeah. but 0.7 to 1.2 is a big version jump. some software had huge advances after the squeeze freeze. therefore backports |
| 18:41.38 | Wizzzo | hello all is anyone available to try an irc server ? i cant seem to get dccchat working but i suspect its the isp supplied router,? |
| 18:41.45 | PerfDave | Hmm, I wouldn't run backports on a public-facing server :) |
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| 18:43.49 | sney | I probably wouldn't run nginx in production, period. but to each their own. and at least there's an option that's supported and doesn't require leaving stable entirely. |
| 18:43.50 | ws2k33 | perfdave |
| 18:43.59 | ws2k33 | but nginx is now on 1.2.7 |
| 18:44.04 | ws2k33 | and debian shows me 0.7.5 |
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| 18:44.19 | sney | ws2k33, http://backports.debian.org/ follow the instructions and get 1.2.1 |
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| 18:45.23 | PerfDave | ws2k33: That's because you're running Debian's stable branch, which means it doesn't change except for security updates. If you don't have a specific reason to use a more modern version, I'd go with the one provided. |
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| 18:46.56 | ghost75 | how much work is it to make a package for debian? |
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| 18:47.26 | sney | ghost75, varies wildly depending on what the application/lib is |
| 18:47.28 | sney | !nmg |
| 18:47.29 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
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| 18:47.36 | sney | but it's pretty straightforward in any case |
| 18:48.13 | ws2k33 | sney |
| 18:48.19 | Wizzzo | sney would you be able to test dcc chat on my server ? |
| 18:48.19 | sney | yes? |
| 18:48.21 | ws2k33 | can you explain me maby what backjport is exacly |
| 18:48.25 | ws2k33 | i cant remember :X |
| 18:48.25 | sney | Wizzzo, no |
| 18:48.30 | Wizzzo | ok thks |
| 18:48.53 | sney | ws2k33, it's a package from a newer debian release, like testing or sid, recompiled to run on stable. |
| 18:49.12 | ws2k33 | and is this relayable safe ? |
| 18:49.16 | ws2k33 | or still a bit beta |
| 18:49.27 | sney | it depends on the package |
| 18:49.48 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k33: Individual packages are generally safe, but the more backports you install the more you push the edge of what's been tested. |
| 18:49.57 | sney | but if you need the newer version of whatever, using a backport is a lot more reliable than the alternative |
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| 18:50.33 | ws2k33 | yeah i understand |
| 18:50.42 | ws2k33 | and what do you think is wise to do |
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| 18:50.51 | ws2k33 | use backport because then i have a newer version of nginx |
| 18:50.57 | ws2k33 | ur just use the stable one |
| 18:51.02 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k33: Run apache. |
| 18:52.02 | PerfDave | ws2k33: Why do you want a newer version? |
| 18:52.13 | sney | ws2k33, look at the capabilities of both and see if the features you want are supported in 0.7 |
| 18:52.35 | sney | understand the differences between 0.7 and 1.2 and make an informed decision yourself. |
| 18:53.03 | PerfDave | The Debian stable packaged 0.7 will get more prompt security support and generally be better tested than the backports version 1.2 |
| 18:53.05 | ws2k33 | why run apache? |
| 18:53.11 | ws2k33 | i run apache2 how |
| 18:53.28 | ws2k33 | i have a website with around 6k visitors a day i run the website on a vps 1 ghx 1 gb ram |
| 18:53.44 | ws2k33 | and i have read nginx is faster and lighter then apache2 |
| 18:53.46 | sney | apache2 is the industry standard for web hosting. it's well documented and easy to get help with |
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| 18:54.18 | ws2k33 | i know i'm using apache2 now for like 3 years or so |
| 18:54.22 | ws2k33 | and i like it alot |
| 18:54.24 | sney | nginx is some crazy thing from russia. fast and light, yes. but not as supported. |
| 18:54.44 | ws2k33 | so ur advice just stick with apache2 |
| 18:54.57 | sney | my advice is to understand the differences and make your own decision |
| 18:54.58 | PerfDave | -> out, BBL |
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| 18:55.40 | sney | but really - if apache is not giving you any trouble, just stay with it |
| 18:55.55 | ws2k33 | oke thx :) |
| 18:56.12 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k33: I'd stick with apache for production and set up another (private) server to experiment with the stable version of ngnix on. If the stable version won't do what you need you have your answer. |
| 18:56.14 | Xqlz | Hi guys, is anyone a bit familliar with vmware ? |
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| 18:56.41 | sney | Xqlz, vmware is not supported in #debian |
| 18:56.44 | ws2k33 | xqlz i'm a littel why |
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| 18:57.08 | Flashtek | q: how to find out the version of a given installed package ? |
| 18:57.13 | Xqlz | I wonder if I make a clean real install of debian on a partion if my server |
| 18:57.27 | sney | Flashtek, apt-cache policy packagename or dpkg -l packagename |
| 18:57.31 | Xqlz | Is there a way I mount this partition in vmware on another os |
| 18:57.43 | Xqlz | On the same server |
| 18:58.01 | sney | Xqlz, ask in #vmware |
| 18:58.02 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: The other os must have drivers for the filesystem you choose. |
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| 18:58.18 | Flashtek | that being the case, does anyone happen to know if squid 2.7.STABLE9-2.1 has ipv6 capability ? |
| 18:59.19 | sney | squid is application layer so I wouldn't think the ip version even applies |
| 19:00.09 | Xqlz | Ok do you know what filesystem I could use with windows server 2012 ? |
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| 19:01.34 | Flashtek | sney: any way to prove that ? I'm a little confused by a problem |
| 19:01.55 | sney | Flashtek, why don't you describe the problem then |
| 19:01.57 | Flashtek | I can't access any ipv6 stuff when going through the proxy, but i can when direct |
| 19:02.47 | sney | does the proxy work for ipv4 traffic? |
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| 19:07.57 | neon__ | update manager is offering me stuff |
| 19:08.16 | neon__ | would apt-get offer me same updates? |
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| 19:09.04 | bazhang | sure |
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| 19:09.58 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 19:10.04 | jeffrin | shall i tell one thing |
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| 19:11.13 | neon__ | bazhang, apt-get is not offering me some of the things update manager is offering. Like e.g. alsa-base is "kept back" |
| 19:12.10 | bazhang | neon__, for apt-get upgrade? or dist-upgrade |
| 19:12.31 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: As far as I know the only filesystems supported by Windows are FAT12/16/32 and ntfs. You can get ext and other drivers for it but that's outside the scope of this channel. |
| 19:12.43 | neon__ | bazhang, I tried apt-get upgrade. I thought dist-upgrade is only needed once |
| 19:13.06 | neon__ | bazhang, should I dist-upgrade again? wont it try to upgrade to the next dist? |
| 19:13.08 | Flashtek | sney: for ipv4, yes it works fine |
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| 19:13.25 | bazhang | neon__, thats not what dist-upgrade does |
| 19:13.27 | zykotick9 | neon__: dist-upgrade is the same as full-upgrade |
| 19:13.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | neon__, upgrade does not install new packages or remove packages. |
| 19:13.36 | jhutchins_wk | neon__: dist-upgrade or full-upgrade allows the kernel to be upgraded, but there haven't been a lot of kernel upgrades in squeeze. (There were in Lenny) |
| 19:13.54 | Xqlz | Allright I guess that the last option is the best choice or is a debian in ntfs possible ? |
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| 19:14.15 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: Possible, but I doubt you'll enjoy it. |
| 19:14.25 | Arrowmaster | Xqlz, jhutchins_wk: windows vista and up support exFAT and you can download an update from microsoft for XP, XP and up should support harddrives formatted in UDF (the dvd filesystem) but there are many different versions of it so it might be tricky |
| 19:14.41 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: You don't really need access to the OS partition from another OS anyway, make a seperate shared data partition. |
| 19:14.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | Xqlz, soft-links, permission/rights management... |
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| 19:15.45 | neon__ | I am upgrading to wheezy |
| 19:15.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | i.e. you-do-not-want-that™ |
| 19:16.00 | neon__ | it is already running, but I see a lot fo squeeze packages still around |
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| 19:16.13 | ompaul | neon__: told you so :-) have fun |
| 19:16.24 | neon__ | ompaul, hello there |
| 19:16.36 | neon__ | ompaul, it is already running better than squeeze did |
| 19:16.37 | Xqlz | Well its more for working on an integration of the two system together, nothing about data ;-) |
| 19:16.56 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: Another option is to create a samba share on the debian install and mount/access it via the pseudo network of VMWare. |
| 19:17.12 | neon__ | ompaul, except new gnome3 eaweeck |
| 19:17.29 | neon__ | ompaul, I am running classic, but missing my applets |
| 19:18.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | Xqlz, integrate what, if not user data? |
| 19:18.33 | Xqlz | Well I will stick to a simple vmware system, thanks for the help |
| 19:18.47 | Xqlz | Its about networking |
| 19:19.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean you want the systems to have a drink together and exchange addresses? |
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| 19:19.55 | Xqlz | Thats not an issue but i loved the idea of a debian that i can work with on vmware |
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| 19:20.12 | Xqlz | And then get its full power without any virtualisation loss |
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| 19:21.17 | Xqlz | Its an old generation computer used now as a server, not a uigh tech multi os virtualised unafordable system :p |
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| 19:21.48 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: You need more experience and fewer assumptions. |
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| 19:23.22 | Xqlz | Oh dont take my words like that I certainly have a restricted knowledge |
| 19:23.46 | Xqlz | But I work hard and get things running so |
| 19:23.49 | jhutchins_wk | Xqlz: I just encourage you to experiment and learn more about how stuff works. |
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| 19:27.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, installing a linux system on ntfs would surely teach a lot :P |
| 19:28.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | amongst others, why this isn't such a good idea |
| 19:29.53 | Xqlz | I'm not a backoffice engeneer everyone got his area of knowledge. When you dont take the time to really get into how technically "stuff works" you may do some easy assumptions but I got your point. |
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| 19:34.09 | txomon | just wondering, is there any qa section in debian? |
| 19:35.04 | txomon | is going oftc to ask |
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| 19:35.08 | jhutchins_wk | !faq |
| 19:35.08 | dpkg | [faq] Frequently Asked Questions. The #debian FAQ is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC . The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ is at http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ . Ask me about <search dpkg> to search my database for FAQ links. Many other FAQ are listed at http://wiki.debian.org/FAQ . Read the FAQs! |
| 19:35.19 | txomon | ok |
| 19:35.37 | jhutchins_wk | txomon: That what you're looking for? |
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| 19:36.02 | txomon | jhutchins_wk, making debian usable |
| 19:36.07 | txomon | and easy to learn |
| 19:36.22 | txomon | s/usable/easy to use/ |
| 19:36.27 | jelly-home | quality assurance, or questions and answers? |
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| 19:36.34 | txomon | quality assurance |
| 19:37.33 | ompaul | neon__: it was predicted that things would not go well, it seems the prediction was right. There's no fixing a train wreck, recycle and get on with it. It's not debian, it is how you do or do not do debian. |
| 19:37.58 | themill | txomon: the QA people mostly deal with running automated tests, static analysis and missing maintainers. You'll find them in #debiain-qa on oftc. |
| 19:38.35 | neon__ | ompaul, what are u talking about? it runs ok, you were wrong. |
| 19:38.39 | themill | txomon: most "ease of use" work is done at the individual package level by maintainers and their upstreams. |
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| 19:38.57 | jelly-home | what happens when a maintainer isn't missing but ignores most of their packages and focuses only on the pretty ones |
| 19:39.10 | themill | jelly-home: we collectively sulk |
| 19:39.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, and that works? |
| 19:39.46 | txomon | themill, well I was wondering if there is any section of people that makes courses to promote debian |
| 19:39.49 | jhutchins_wk | CutMeOwnThroat: As well as anything. |
| 19:39.50 | PerfDave | There are resolution procedures for anything like that |
| 19:39.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 19:40.06 | PerfDave | txomon: Promoting Debian isn't the job of the QA team, it's the job of the marketing team |
| 19:40.10 | themill | jelly-home, CutMeOwnThroat: (you can read the "salvaging" threads on d-devel a couple of months ago about that) |
| 19:40.19 | r3m | hi |
| 19:40.21 | txomon | PerfDave, making courses etc. I mean |
| 19:40.29 | PerfDave | txomon: Subscribe to debian-devel-announce and you'll get e-mails from the DPL among others outlining the work done to promote Debian |
| 19:40.38 | jelly-home | PerfDave: those typically work only inside the DD(+DM) circle and are not initiated by users |
| 19:40.58 | themill | txomon: the publicity team sort of. Debian is all just volunteers offering to do things. |
| 19:41.03 | PerfDave | jelly-home: Has a user ever tried to use them? |
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| 19:41.31 | jelly-home | a good question |
| 19:41.33 | jhutchins_wk | txomon: There really isn't a central organization like the commercial linux distros have. |
| 19:41.35 | txomon | I was thinking about making some short of courses like coursera.org ones but all centered among debian |
| 19:42.07 | txomon | s/among/around/ |
| 19:42.11 | jelly-home | files a dozen bugs towards tech-ctte to test the waters |
| 19:42.39 | PerfDave | reportbug --severity CRITICAL <<< tech-ctte "Hey you guys you suck luv jelly" |
| 19:42.43 | PerfDave | ooops |
| 19:42.48 | PerfDave | reportbug --severity CRITICAL tech-ctte <<< "Hey you guys you suck luv jelly" |
| 19:43.00 | jelly-home | nodnod |
| 19:43.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | I feel it in *my* water that you'll make a lot of new friends |
| 19:43.32 | txomon | take into account that I come from ubuntu, and I am accustomed to their qa team, that in late weeks they are improving or promoting classrooms |
| 19:43.36 | jelly-home | I feel it in my toes |
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| 19:45.57 | txomon | PerfDave, so that list you told me is about the devs making promotions? |
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| 19:47.22 | PerfDave | Ubuntu's QA team spends time developing promotions and courses? That explains a *lot* about the "quality" of Ubuntu :) |
| 19:48.04 | Sa[i]nT | Debian, I love you. I've been working on my Catalyst issue for a -long time- with many different distros and Debian Squeeze did it for me right out of the box. |
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| 19:48.08 | txomon | PerfDave, I came from ubuntu due to the late quality ubuntu was having in 10.10 11.04 11.10 and finally 12.04 |
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| 19:48.22 | Sa[i]nT | Now I can have 3d acceleration in vmware which eliminates my need to ever go back to windows. |
| 19:49.15 | txomon | but although the ones that focus on quality are the testing team, the qa is the one that coordinates them, launches projects like ubuntu-orchestra etc. |
| 19:49.29 | txomon | Sa[i]nT, congratulations |
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| 19:50.23 | txomon | PerfDave, and I was wondering if there was something like that in debian |
| 19:50.30 | zophy | are there any web search engines that provide a pure textual user interface ? |
| 19:50.42 | txomon | I am going towards debian marketing to see what they do |
| 19:50.45 | txomon | zophy, lynx |
| 19:50.49 | txomon | with google works |
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| 19:51.01 | jhutchins_wk | txomon: They don't. |
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| 19:51.33 | txomon | jhutchins_wk, so... what would be the solution? |
| 19:51.49 | jhutchins_wk | txomon: I mean debian marketing. |
| 19:51.53 | txomon | is expecting a DIY |
| 19:52.09 | txomon | jhutchins_wk, they just do marketing of debian... how? |
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| 19:52.19 | jhutchins_wk | txomon: They don't. |
| 19:52.27 | txomon | they do nothing? |
| 19:52.31 | themill | txomon: as I said, Debian is a group of volunteers -- coordinate your efforts with the publicity team |
| 19:52.45 | txomon | marketing != publicity? |
| 19:52.51 | jelly-home | what publicity team! |
| 19:53.29 | themill | txomon: perhaps you should investigate what they do. |
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| 19:54.11 | txomon | themill, but I have to look for publicity, for marketing or for what? |
| 19:54.27 | txomon | ok I found publicity |
| 19:54.33 | themill | txomon: why would I have sent you to look at them? |
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| 19:54.49 | jelly-home | dpk... :-| |
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| 19:55.14 | dselect | wave at jelly-home |
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| 19:55.32 | jelly-home | dselect: publicity |
| 19:55.32 | dselect | jelly-home: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 19:55.42 | jelly-home | :'( |
| 19:55.45 | txomon | they get described as: "The target of the publicity project is to create a regular newsletter (the Debian Project News) as well as drafting and coordinating press announcement" |
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| 19:56.47 | jelly-home | sounds like a good starting point |
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| 19:58.46 | txomon | jelly-home, really doesn't, as that means the are just publicity. Press, and articles, but nothing 2.0 |
| 19:58.59 | txomon | hope that definition is outdated |
| 19:59.41 | themill | txomon: seriously... if you want to help, they are they people to contact about how you can help. If you don't want to help, then I'm not sure why we are having this discussion at all. |
| 20:02.08 | txomon | themill, I don't say they don't do their work alright, the wiki is a fantastic work. I just complained about the definition. I am going for them |
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| 20:02.50 | ompaul | ah the drive by bug report hoping it sticks is that it? |
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| 20:03.58 | txomon | themill, btw, I see no activity in their mail list... |
| 20:04.04 | txomon | (real activity) |
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| 20:04.20 | themill | txomon: so make activity with all the wonderful things you're offering to do. |
| 20:04.33 | txomon | xD ok |
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| 20:05.31 | jhutchins_wk | txomon: you should probably also get to now the various websites and how the community is structured. That will help you understand why marketing is a pretty meaningless concept when it comes to Debian. |
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| 20:07.09 | abrotman | know? |
| 20:07.32 | jhutchins_wk | s/now/know/ - yes abrotman |
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| 20:08.36 | txomon | ok |
| 20:08.39 | ompaul | is there a way to stop gdm from the grub screen so a vm can load without it |
| 20:08.47 | ompaul | squeeze |
| 20:09.04 | PerfDave | ompaul: What do you want to do without it? |
| 20:09.50 | abrotman | ompaul: once or forever |
| 20:09.51 | ompaul | I wanted to run the vm without it, so that the clock cycles on the not too powerful box get used |
| 20:09.54 | abrotman | hugs PerfDave |
| 20:10.00 | ompaul | abrotman: forever is good |
| 20:10.17 | PerfDave | ompaul: Why not just remove gdm? |
| 20:10.20 | ompaul | the clock cycles don't get used running X |
| 20:10.25 | jackbrown | hi there Could anyone suggest me a tool for check and repair drives ? Once on Ubuntu Mint there was Palimpsest now has been removed by repositoris I dunno wy |
| 20:10.28 | ompaul | PerfDave: didn't think of that |
| 20:10.35 | ompaul | blames sunday |
| 20:10.38 | abrotman | jackbrown: for which distro ? |
| 20:10.46 | abrotman | !tell ompaul about nodm |
| 20:10.50 | jackbrown | abrotman: every |
| 20:10.56 | jackbrown | abrotman: which is the best tool ? |
| 20:11.10 | abrotman | jackbrown: for which distro? |
| 20:11.12 | jackbrown | I'm on Mint actually |
| 20:11.22 | abrotman | jackbrown: then ask them, or ask ##linux, good luck |
| 20:11.42 | jackbrown | ok |
| 20:13.27 | ompaul | abrotman: picked it up from oftc thanks all happy clappy now |
| 20:14.00 | abrotman | ompaul: good deal |
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| 20:26.34 | TeeTylerToe | what's a user friendly debian fdisk? |
| 20:26.43 | TeeTylerToe | with human readable sizes |
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| 20:29.10 | PerfDave | TeeTylerToe: gparted? cfdisk? |
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| 20:48.17 | rtd | I am currently running a VirtualBox machine and am getting close to running out of hd space so I need to extend the partition in Debian, after I have extended the available space in VirtualBox. Any suggestions you can offer to someone that has never done this before? Thanks in advance! |
| 20:48.52 | fantastic1 | check pvt jelly-home |
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| 20:49.10 | jeeves_moss | how do I setup syslog so I can log my external routers, etc? |
| 20:49.32 | owen1 | i try to install a process monitoring script (https://github.com/visionmedia/mon/) and it tried to copy the script into /usr/local/bin but bin is owned by root. is it ok to chown this folder to the one that do the install? |
| 20:50.36 | somiaj | rtd: I belive vbox has nice tools for that, you should just look up 'resiaing a virtualbox disk image' |
| 20:50.58 | somiaj | rtd: it is a two step process. 1) make your virtual hd image bigger, 2) resize the filesystem |
| 20:51.01 | rtd | yeah, I figured out how to do it in virtualbox using the vboxmanage resize |
| 20:51.11 | rtd | it's the filesystem, that I am unsure of |
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| 20:51.48 | somiaj | rtd: there is resize2fs, I think you will want to use tune2fs and remove the jourling from your filesystem frist, then reisze it, then add jourling back |
| 20:51.53 | somiaj | rtd: as always backup your image first |
| 20:52.35 | fantastic1 | no issue on payments jelly-home |
| 20:52.54 | PerfDave | rtd: What sort of partitions are you using? |
| 20:53.01 | rtd | I was just going to ask how I find that out |
| 20:53.11 | PerfDave | resize2fs should cope with live-expanding ext3 or ext4 |
| 20:54.09 | rtd | got it, ext4 |
| 20:54.21 | PerfDave | rtd: So you've done all the virtualbox side of things already? The disk image partition / file / whatever is bigger, and appears as a bigger disk to the virtual Debian install? |
| 20:54.34 | rtd | I am doing that right now |
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| 20:59.19 | PerfDave | rtd: One option is to boot System Rescue CD or similar in VirtualBox and use that to resize your Debian partitions. But you should be able to do it from within Debian |
| 21:00.05 | rtd | Do any of the options afford me less chances of ruining the system? |
| 21:00.29 | PerfDave | rtd: The SysRescCD option is perhaps slightly safer, but I'd be pretty happy with either |
| 21:02.55 | PerfDave | rtd: Depends how you installed Debian really. If you've just done it on a single primary partition, it'll be easy, if you've done something like crypted disks, LVM or similar it might be trickier |
| 21:03.31 | rtd | it's pretty much just a single partition |
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| 21:03.43 | rtd | most everything is stored in "/" |
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| 21:21.47 | Shoya | guys, question, what's the ddrescue procedure? copy, trim, split, what else? |
| 21:22.13 | un214 | multiple attempts to read the data before it gives up |
| 21:22.35 | Shoya | ugh |
| 21:22.39 | un214 | will leave behind a hole in the target image if it can't read unlike dd which leaves your filesystem corrupt beyond that point |
| 21:22.58 | Shoya | it obviously won't end before new years |
| 21:23.37 | un214 | the "will leave a hole" is vital to it performing its function |
| 21:24.44 | Shoya | i think that putting ddrescue as priority 5, putting it with -r3 arguments wasn't teh greatest idea |
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| 21:25.18 | un214 | it doesn't use much cpu |
| 21:25.51 | Shoya | i know it doesn't |
| 21:26.08 | un214 | which means priority is essentially irrelevant |
| 21:26.10 | petemc | kpartx can potentially be useful |
| 21:26.40 | Shoya | but the problem is it hangs Debian every now and then, and also it's a 1TB disk |
| 21:28.56 | KinkyPinkie | hey. I have a problem. I've got a hdd in an usb-cabinett, wich i wiped and installed windows onto a partion. that left me with 3 partitions, efi, windows reserved and windows OS partition. for the remaining space I wanted to migrate my current setup with extended partition with encrypted home etc. my problem now is even though no partition on the hdd is mounted, neither gparted nor gnom-disk-utility allow me to create extended partition |
| 21:30.00 | TeeTylerToe | is there any space for the ext part? |
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| 21:33.30 | rtd | alright, I got the VirtualBox expansion completed and the system is up and running |
| 21:33.43 | rtd | so all I want to do is expand the "/" partition to use the added space |
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| 21:36.54 | maxxe | no backports for vim 7.3 in the repo? |
| 21:36.58 | PerfDave | rtd: OK, does cfdisk or similar within the Debian VM show the drive as being bigger? |
| 21:38.13 | rtd | Would it be easier if I posted screenshot of cfdisk? |
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| 21:38.58 | PerfDave | rtd: I'm not asking for proof, just confirming that the partition size is what you now expect it to do |
| 21:39.44 | rtd | http://i.imgur.com/eV0zn.png |
| 21:40.01 | rtd | I know, just don't want to mess this up, I don't really know what I'm looking for |
| 21:40.45 | PerfDave | rtd: OK, that's not a simple partition setup. That's *within* the VM, yes? |
| 21:41.40 | rtd | I just typed cfdisk from the command line after booting into the server |
| 21:41.46 | rtd | that's what's on the screen |
| 21:42.01 | rtd | I already extended the drive within VirtualBox, now I need to extend the filesystem |
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| 21:43.06 | Apachez | any news on when wheezy will be considered stable? |
| 21:43.19 | PerfDave | Apachez: wir; siyh |
| 21:43.20 | sney | Apachez, when it's ready, sooner if you help. is always the answer. |
| 21:43.24 | sney | ha |
| 21:43.51 | PerfDave | rtd: please pastebin the output of "mount" |
| 21:43.56 | rtd | sure |
| 21:44.00 | Apachez | because its more than 6 months since it got frozen |
| 21:44.19 | Apachez | and I was hoping of avoiding ubuntu 12.04 LTS for a new server installation |
| 21:44.22 | orfix | Hi, how can I enable bell on xterm ? when I type "echo -e '\a'" or "xkbbell" I don't hear anything... any idea ? thank you. |
| 21:44.25 | orfix | I am using xterm. |
| 21:44.51 | rtd | http://pastebin.com/9hxQ5PHG |
| 21:44.58 | orfix | I type faster than I think :p |
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| 21:46.59 | JoeHazzers | usually after running the debian installer, the machine's tty will be at native resolution. however, it is currently not. it's the same hardware. what package(s) provide this functionality and what configuration? |
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| 21:47.37 | sney | !kvm |
| 21:47.37 | dpkg | The Kernel-based Virtual Machine (KVM) is a full <virtualization> solution for Linux hosts on x86 hardware with x86 guests. Packaged for Debian as qemu-kvm since Squeeze. See http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions, also ask me about <xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:47.41 | sney | no, not that. |
| 21:48.02 | sney | !kms |
| 21:48.02 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 21:48.04 | sney | there we go. |
| 21:48.24 | JoeHazzers | thanks |
| 21:48.31 | PerfDave | rtd: OK, so /dev/sda1 is your /boot, and you've got /dev/sda5 which I'm guessing is an LVM PV (though if you could paste the output of "pvs" "vgs" and "lvs" that'd be helpful too) |
| 21:49.06 | rtd | PVS: /dev/sda5 turnkey lvm2 a- 19.76g 904.00m |
| 21:49.16 | rtd | VGS: turnkey 1 2 0 wz--n- 19.76g 904.00m |
| 21:49.34 | rtd | LVS: root turnkey -wi-ao 18.41g |
| 21:49.34 | rtd | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.49 | JoeHazzers | yeah um, so can KMS be done without having X installed? |
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| 21:54.32 | PerfDave | rtd: Please don't paste to channel :) But you need to do a number of things here, and I'd suggest booting a virtual System Rescue CD to do them. First, you need to expand /dev/sda5 to use the extra 80GB of empty space on the "disk", then you need to expand the LVM PV to use all of the new disk partition size. I'd check the LVM documentation on how to do that. Then you need to use lvresize to expand the "root" LV, then resize2fs to expand the ... |
| 21:54.38 | PerfDave | ... ext4 FS on that LV |
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| 21:56.28 | rtd | holy crap, totally going to mess this up |
| 21:56.41 | rtd | sorry for pasting in here, didn't know I shouldn't do that |
| 21:56.49 | Guest48541 | I am using debian wheezy and I can not open a file from a usb flash drive. I get error 'the file is corrupt and cannot be opened' |
| 21:57.31 | PerfDave | rtd: Just take it in stages. It's like layers - first the virtual disk image, which you've already done. Now the virtual disks have partitions. Then one of those partitions is using LVM. Then there's an LVM partition. Then there's a filesystem. Just tackle one at a time. |
| 21:57.48 | PerfDave | rtd: If you'd done the simple install and just had a single primary partition on the disk then it'd be a lot easier ;) |
| 21:58.13 | rtd | yeah, I don't know why it ended up like this |
| 21:58.26 | rtd | I have myself to blame :) |
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| 22:00.22 | Fauve | nono: non, en fait ça se voit pas mais je suis un arbre. |
| 22:00.24 | Guest48541 | Another error i get 'file is locked for editing by another user' the flash drive has fat file system. Anything can be done to open the files? |
| 22:00.31 | Fauve | D’où le nom « Fauve » CQFD. |
| 22:00.41 | somiaj | Guest48541: what is telling you that? |
| 22:00.58 | somiaj | Guest48541: i.e. what program is telling you it is locked? |
| 22:02.24 | JoeHazzers | it seems that by doing a "targeted" installation, i miss out a lot of stuff :/ |
| 22:02.24 | Fauve | sorry, I mistake about chanel :) |
| 22:02.33 | Guest48541 | somiaj, the files are made in libre office writer |
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| 22:04.07 | somiaj | Guest48541: you either a) have a backup file hiding somewhere, or b) have a corrupt libreoffice running |
| 22:04.21 | somiaj | Guest48541: ps fax (do you see any instancess of libreoffice running in the background)? |
| 22:04.46 | somiaj | if that isn't the case you have some hidden file, ls -a /path/to/directory to see if it is there |
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| 22:08.44 | Guest48541 | somiaj, if you are talking about path to where the flash drive is mounted, it is /media/HP v223w and I can not access it . |
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| 22:14.29 | somiaj | Guest48541: well I would ps fax -- and then kill all the libreoffice instances |
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| 22:14.35 | somiaj | Guest48541: and then fix your usb drive/filesystem first |
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| 22:26.36 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 22:30.17 | Guest48541 | somiaj, ok I went through ps fax and killed libre office processes. Now, to fix the usb filesystem, I need to move all files, and then change the file system through command line or with something like gparted? |
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| 22:33.01 | rtd | PerfDave: Do you know if I am able to extend the LVM PV from within GParted? |
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| 22:33.11 | Tau | im using |
| 22:33.12 | Tau | this version |
| 22:33.15 | Tau | tau@spin:~$ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:33.16 | Tau | 6.0.5 |
| 22:33.16 | Tau | tau@spin:~$ |
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| 22:33.31 | Tau | is there any other newer stable version? |
| 22:33.46 | PerfDave | Tau: No |
| 22:33.59 | b0ss_ | yes, there is |
| 22:34.00 | ompaul | Tau: you can apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it will become 6.0.6 |
| 22:34.04 | b0ss_ | 6.0.6 isn't ? |
| 22:34.10 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.20 | PerfDave | It's not a new release really. |
| 22:34.24 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.29 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.31 | PerfDave | But Tau should be installing security updates |
| 22:34.43 | rtd | I got the dev/sda2 extended |
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| 22:34.57 | rtd | but now I need to extend dev/sda5 which is the lvm |
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| 22:35.18 | PerfDave | rtd: Why did you extend /dev/sda2? That's your boot partion, you want to leave that alone. |
| 22:35.34 | rtd | dev/sda1 I think is boot |
| 22:35.55 | PerfDave | rtd: Good point. You don't *have* /dev/sda2 |
| 22:36.21 | pythonsnake | how can I chroot and not take down my services? |
| 22:36.43 | rtd | http://i.imgur.com/R5QZl.png |
| 22:36.48 | rtd | That's where I'm at right now |
| 22:37.33 | PerfDave | rtd: Hang on, I don't have a machine with the LVM utils installed |
| 22:37.53 | rtd | no problem, thanks again for helping me out |
| 22:38.15 | ompaul | rdt I don't think there is a backport for it |
| 22:38.57 | PerfDave | rtd: This is from a system rescue CD boot or similar, right? |
| 22:39.07 | rtd | This is from a gparted CD |
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| 22:39.33 | PerfDave | I don't know what one of those is - does it have utilities like pvresize on? |
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| 22:41.02 | rtd | I don't think so |
| 22:41.11 | rtd | I mean, I could launch the terminal and do it from there, I believe |
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| 22:43.00 | PerfDave | rtd: Check whether it's got them installed. |
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| 22:43.07 | pythonsnake | Will chrooting take down my actual apps? |
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| 22:43.22 | pythonsnake | or Can I run 2 systems in one Linux with chrooting? |
| 22:44.27 | rtd | I can create a new partition out of the unallocated space, that's about it, I don't see any other utilities like pvresize installed in the gui |
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| 22:46.57 | rtd | I can grab another iso to boot from if that's a better option |
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| 22:47.26 | rtd | I just had this one ready to go, so I figured I could at least get the first drive extension completed |
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| 22:48.36 | HardDisk_WP | how do I make a debian-mirror for only that stuff which the debian-installer needs? |
| 22:50.44 | PerfDave | rtd: I suggested System Rescue CD because the latest version has gparted but also LVM and luks tools. |
| 22:50.52 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: How do you know what the Debian installer needs? |
| 22:51.03 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: What are you actually trying to achieve? |
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| 22:51.14 | rtd | ok, I will download that and boot from there |
| 22:51.25 | HardDisk_WP | PXE netboot install without the client machines having direct internet connection |
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| 22:51.55 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: But having an indirect Internet connection? Or completely offline? |
| 22:52.12 | nardev | is there difference between udev rules located in /etc/udev/rules.d and /lib/udev/rules.d/ ? |
| 22:52.13 | HardDisk_WP | clients offline, only server has internet connection via 2nd NIC |
| 22:52.19 | PerfDave | rtd: I think you need to expand /dev/sda5 in gparted, then use pvresize to expand the LVM PV thereupon |
| 22:53.01 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: And you're installing onto hard drives in the client machines, rather than some thin client / LTSP solution? |
| 22:53.17 | HardDisk_WP | yep, installing on harddrives |
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| 22:53.41 | rtd | it won't let me expand dev/sda5 in gparted |
| 22:54.03 | rtd | dev/sda5 is the lvm pv |
| 22:56.11 | HardDisk_WP | so far, I can boot d-i via PXE and install when using the server as gateway, but I want to eliminate the gateway and make the setup run unattended in the end |
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| 22:56.35 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: Why do you need to eliminate the gateway for an unattended install? |
| 22:56.50 | Guest48541 | somiaj, thanks, I did change the file system to ext4. It is all working now, except one file. the message is 'execution of macros disabled for this document' |
| 22:57.01 | HardDisk_WP | i want the network as isolated as possible |
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| 22:57.44 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: You could look at running apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng or approxer as a caching proxy, then do one install and you should have all the files you need for the other clients assuming they're identical. |
| 22:58.05 | HardDisk_WP | yep, all identical setup. will look into this |
| 22:58.22 | PerfDave | HardDisk_WP: But if you're going to have the clients connecting to the Internet once installed, I don't see what harm there is in letting them go through the gateway |
| 22:58.36 | HardDisk_WP | nope, the clients will not have internet when set up |
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| 22:58.48 | PerfDave | rtd: Hmm, you might try the gparted that ships with System Rescue CD. |
| 22:58.57 | HardDisk_WP | they just have internet now while i'm experimenting with the debian installer |
| 22:59.11 | tgs3 | in command line how to receive email from IMAP server? |
| 22:59.24 | PerfDave | rtd: If that doesn't work, you'll probably need to use fdisk or cfdisk to expand /dev/sda5. But I'd check with #lvm first perhaps. |
| 22:59.33 | PerfDave | tgs3: mutt is a good command-line e-mail client that supports imap |
| 22:59.36 | tgs3 | I want to script basic commands like get new emails from gmail, and send replies with SMTP |
| 22:59.49 | tgs3 | PerfDave: can it be used for batch processing and scripted from bash |
| 22:59.58 | PerfDave | tgs3: Uhm, doesn't Gmail let you do that already? |
| 22:59.58 | tgs3 | or is it only interactive program |
| 23:00.07 | nardev | anybody: is there difference between udev rules located in /etc/udev/rules.d and /lib/udev/rules.d/ ? |
| 23:00.14 | tgs3 | PerfDave: nah it was just example |
| 23:00.16 | tgs3 | with gmail |
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| 23:01.02 | PerfDave | tgs3: So what do you *really* want to do? |
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| 23:01.38 | tgs3 | PerfDave: get lots of chicks, big home, cool electronic stuff, maybe develop cure for cancer, have nice children |
| 23:02.19 | PerfDave | tgs3: If you're not going to tell us what you're trying to achieve, we're not going to be able to help you. Your choice. |
| 23:02.34 | tgs3 | but I just did :) ok maybe it was too long term |
| 23:02.45 | PerfDave | tgs3: Welcome to /ignore |
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| 23:03.07 | tgs3 | PerfDave: write bash scripts to receive emails and do stuff with them like auto reply |
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| 23:05.29 | rtd | Thanks PerfDave, I am booting the new iso now |
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| 23:12.42 | rtd | alright, I have booted into the Rescue CD |
| 23:12.49 | rtd | the gparted seems to have the same options |
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| 23:14.28 | humbolto | udev is the one, who triggers the mount action when hotplugging an usb device. But where exactly (file) is that happening. I need to pass an alternative dmask to the mount action. |
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| 23:15.46 | PerfDave | rtd: So it won't resize /dev/sda5? I expect that's because it tries to resize filesystems too, and it doesn't recognise PVs. |
| 23:16.11 | PerfDave | rtd: Like I said, I think you'll need to use cfdisk and pvresize by hand, but I'd ask for help in #lvm here because I'm not 100% sure |
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| 23:17.22 | rtd | sounds good, thanks for all of your help!!! |
| 23:17.56 | PerfDave | No worries |
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| 23:29.43 | sudoman | hello, how do i get lxde to stop showing 50 or so items in the "other" section of the application menu? there are a bunch that don't seem to be in /usr/share/menu/. also, i tried clearing the user menu cache and searching google. no luck though. |
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| 23:30.17 | sudoman | it shows tings like dash and xclock, xkill, etc. |
| 23:30.32 | sudoman | heh, "xlogo" too |
| 23:31.29 | humbolto | how are disks automounted in debian? |
| 23:31.42 | humbolto | udev creates the devices and then? |
| 23:32.05 | humbolto | I can not find any hint in /usr/lib/udev/rules.d |
| 23:32.26 | ompaul | http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs |
| 23:32.43 | nkuttler | !tell sudoman about menu |
| 23:33.55 | sudoman | !tell sudoman about menu-methods |
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| 23:36.37 | sudoman | nkuttler: thanks for the clues. i don't think solving this will be worth reading through code in some strange language though. oh well. :) |
| 23:36.58 | nkuttler | sudoman: iirc there's some gui tool to edit the menu. not that i've ever used it though |
| 23:37.34 | sudoman | nkuttler: yeah, i've seen it for gnome, will have to see if there's one for lxde out there. i seem to remember that lxde doesn't ship one |
| 23:38.10 | nkuttler | sudoman: should be the same, they should both use the debian menu system |
| 23:38.22 | nono | is Ajeni |
| 23:38.23 | sudoman | oh ok |
| 23:38.24 | nono | ti |
| 23:38.32 | nono | is Ajenti safe? |
| 23:38.36 | nono | :-) |
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| 23:40.11 | nono | http://ajenti.org/ |
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| 23:41.11 | Infiltrator | nono: Define "safe"? |
| 23:41.29 | nono | ok |
| 23:41.44 | nono | ok, |
| 23:41.53 | nono | under hard dev |
| 23:41.55 | nono | ! |
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| 23:44.08 | nono | Infiltrator: safe = whitout hole |
| 23:44.12 | nono | :-) |
| 23:44.28 | Infiltrator | nono: Well, it's GPL3, available at https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti |
| 23:44.45 | Infiltrator | nono: If you really want to know if it's without holes, scour the code. :) |
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| 23:45.49 | Infiltrator | You can also read dev blogs and/or forums and/or MLs to see how and how quickly the devs respond to bugs and security hole reports. |
| 23:45.49 | nono | i'm too old! |
| 23:46.02 | nono | my eyes are so tired |
| 23:46.04 | nono | ! |
| 23:46.13 | nono | ok |
| 23:46.19 | nono | sorry |
| 23:46.20 | Infiltrator | If you don't want to do any of that then you can just guess wildly, I guess. :P |
| 23:46.41 | nono | i'm going to work |
| 23:46.53 | nono | (come on and speak french) |
| 23:46.59 | nono | ;-) |
| 23:48.51 | sudoman | nkuttler: it looks like the program to use is alacarte. it should have compatibility with lxde. thanks. :) |
| 23:50.35 | sudoman | although it wants to pull in a bunch of gnome stuff. |
| 23:51.33 | sudoman | ah: --no-install-recommends |
| 23:52.06 | humbolto | which system in debian does the automounting of hotplugged usb jumpdrives? |
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| 23:54.18 | zykotick9 | humbolto: my debian systems don't automount anything... so what are YOU using is the question. i'm guessing fuse/gvfs/udev is what you are looking for perhaps? |
| 23:55.04 | humbolto | udev does create the device node on hotplug, but who mounts the shit? gnome? |
| 23:55.07 | nono | gedit /etc/fstab |
| 23:55.15 | humbolto | how can I control the attributes? |
| 23:55.29 | humbolto | dmask and fmask |
| 23:55.41 | nono | fstab. |
| 23:56.19 | humbolto | nono: come on, I am speaking of random usb disks thrown at it |
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| 23:58.22 | nono | http://wiki.debian.org/fstab |
| 23:58.39 | Towzzer | hans resier fstabbed his wife |
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