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| 00:02.07 | crypticmofo | anyone ? |
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| 00:11.34 | jtreminio | Evening all - if I want to try Debian as my desktop, should I go with Wheezy? |
| 00:12.01 | jtreminio | from here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ , the netinstall? |
| 00:12.26 | EmleyMoor | jtreminio: I would say "consider it" - it is what I installed on this laptop, not long ago... |
| 00:13.45 | EmleyMoor | I found on my desktop machine that the sound and graphics combination works better in wheezy |
| 00:14.22 | jtreminio | sounds good, thanks. ready to install it on my new ssd :D |
| 00:14.43 | rizlah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.17 | crypticmofo | dam my system is slow |
| 00:44.44 | crypticmofo | what can i check to see whtas hogging up stuff |
| 00:44.54 | crypticmofo | top ? i really don't know how to use it |
| 00:44.56 | crypticmofo | i know ps |
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| 00:46.56 | n2diy_ | crypticmofo: top is pretty simple to use, enter top in a terminal, and then type h for help. |
| 00:47.35 | crypticmofo | according to top nothing is really using memoery |
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| 00:47.36 | n2diy_ | I can't ftp into my test box, do I need to install an ftp server? |
| 00:47.40 | crypticmofo | its just the vdoes im trying to watch |
| 00:48.11 | n2diy_ | crypticmofo: is something hogging the cpu(s)? |
| 00:48.22 | crypticmofo | im looking at top |
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| 00:48.31 | crypticmofo | %cpu thie highest is 3 |
| 00:48.33 | crypticmofo | and thats xorg |
| 00:48.38 | crypticmofo | thats about it |
| 00:48.46 | crypticmofo | i don't know what else to look for |
| 00:48.59 | crypticmofo | i do have archlinux mounted i my fstab becuase im using its swap file |
| 00:49.03 | crypticmofo | could that be it ? |
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| 00:49.53 | crypticmofo | fstab here is my fstab http://sprunge.us/DEPU |
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| 00:50.29 | crypticmofo | would you like to see top ? |
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| 00:50.54 | n2diy_ | crypticmofo: you can change which column in top is sorted with the < and > keys. Can't help you with mount and fstab issues. |
| 00:52.50 | crypticmofo | ok i will brb got to go take kids for a function |
| 00:53.36 | n2diy_ | Ok, I installed ftpd and got into my box. |
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| 01:07.37 | schreber | if I create a /home/user/.icons and extract a icon theme to that folder would I be able to use that them or would the theme need to be put in another folder? |
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| 01:09.26 | diabel | Hello everyone |
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| 01:10.55 | diabel | I try to configure apache + nginx, can somebody show me apache and nginx config? |
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| 01:15.06 | [3]nertia | Is there any reason anyone in here can think of as to why a system with a fresh install of Debian would hang on a hardware specs page with "GRUB" and a blinking cursor at the bottom? |
| 01:15.18 | linux-fo3 | hi,guys |
| 01:15.29 | somiaj | schreber: you should be able to use it, but you may have to point your de/filemanager at the theme |
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| 01:17.28 | schreber | hmm |
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| 01:22.23 | dsdeiz | heya is pulseaudio a good thing? or should i avoid using it? |
| 01:23.03 | dvs | dsdeiz: I avoid it |
| 01:24.03 | dsdeiz | i see, ok thanks |
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| 01:24.34 | dvs | np |
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| 01:27.04 | Zharf | dvs++ |
| 01:28.01 | somiaj | dsdeiz: it has some nice features that you won't get in alsa. But most people don't need those features and alsa+dmix does all you need |
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| 01:29.00 | dsdeiz | ah well, all i really wanted was to make the headphones jack sense work. some user in the forum advised me to try pulseaudio |
| 01:29.19 | Zharf | dsdeiz, if the driver doesn't detect it, how would pulse audio? |
| 01:29.27 | somiaj | you mean so when you plug in headphones your laptop speakers stop and audio is switched to the headphones? |
| 01:29.39 | somiaj | are you using the snd_hda_intel (or something like that) module |
| 01:30.08 | dsdeiz | yea here's my post http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=87989&p=460864#p460864 |
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| 01:31.16 | somiaj | dsdeiz: the snd_hda_intel is a driver that hits lots of different cards. Many times you have to configure the module to set the correct model. That is all I had to do to get that exact thing to work for me |
| 01:31.30 | dvs | dsdeiz: the master is muted |
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| 01:32.34 | dsdeiz | mute or unmute still the same tho |
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| 01:34.07 | dsdeiz | the codec i have doesn't seem to be in the list though, should i just try each one? |
| 01:34.08 | somiaj | dsdeiz: http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt -- there is a list of all models you can set for that sound driver and one of them should work. |
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| 01:34.55 | somiaj | I got my model by looking up info on my laptop model, but cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* -- see if that helps |
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| 01:35.48 | dsdeiz | yeah, in my post it's Conexant CX20585. do i need to reboot everytime i try each one? or would alsa force-reload suffice? |
| 01:36.03 | somiaj | modprobe -r <module name> |
| 01:36.13 | somiaj | modprobe <module_name> |
| 01:36.18 | somiaj | so yea you just need to reload teh module |
| 01:36.31 | dsdeiz | ah got, i'll try again |
| 01:36.35 | somiaj | did you look at that codec file I told you to cat and see if that helps you identify the codec? |
| 01:37.04 | dsdeiz | yeah, Conexant CX20585 |
| 01:37.20 | dsdeiz | not in the list |
| 01:38.22 | Shoya | umm hello, is there anyway i can get a certain hotkey to open a konsole window from anywhere? |
| 01:38.26 | somiaj | yea, guess you could just try and see if any are compadable |
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| 01:38.45 | dvs | Isn't that a TV card? |
| 01:38.53 | somiaj | Shoya: depends on your de/wm. There are other programs but I would suggest configuring it for your de/wm. |
| 01:39.02 | Shoya | de/wm? |
| 01:39.04 | Shoya | KDE |
| 01:39.14 | somiaj | yea, so I would look up KDE key bindings |
| 01:39.18 | Shoya | ah ok |
| 01:39.29 | Shoya | thanks |
| 01:39.34 | somiaj | dsdeiz: yea make sure that is your right card. cat /proc/asound/cards (maybe it is card1 that is your audio card) |
| 01:42.15 | schreber | somiaj: thanks for the help with my issue. |
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| 01:42.59 | Alam_Squeeze | hmm, how do I "pull" the list of installed packages from a non-bootable debian system? |
| 01:43.22 | somiaj | Alam_Squeeze: use a live/rescue cd. chroot into your system. run dpkg -l |
| 01:44.42 | Alam_Squeeze | I thought there was a way to tell dpkg where the dpkg database lives |
| 01:45.29 | dvs | !wayttd Alam_Squeeze |
| 01:45.30 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Alam_Squeeze? |
| 01:45.37 | Alam_Squeeze | hmm, 'dpkg --root=/mnt/dead -l' ? |
| 01:45.51 | somiaj | Alam_Squeeze: in most cases is it best to chroot into your unbootable system and work things from there |
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| 01:46.24 | fender0107401 | q |
| 01:47.04 | Alam_Squeeze | revert an amd64 installtion back into an i386, so I want to look what did the old rootfs had installed and work my way |
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| 01:47.45 | dsdeiz | somiaj: that snd-hda-intel i should just add at the bottom of alsa-base.conf right? |
| 01:48.11 | somiaj | dsdeiz: I make a unique config for that, but you can add it to the bottom of that file if you like |
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| 01:51.25 | dsdeiz | holy fking crap!!!!!!! it works now!!!!! ideapad works! no idea why it didn't when i was configuring it yesterday! omg, ima celebrate!!! :D |
| 01:51.43 | Devastator | isn't there a ls switch to show group:owner permissions? |
| 01:51.51 | Devastator | in a folder.. |
| 01:51.53 | somiaj | Devastator: ls -l |
| 01:51.57 | dvs | !beer dsdeiz |
| 01:51.57 | dpkg | pours a pint of Older Viscosity for dsdeiz |
| 01:51.59 | dsdeiz | somiaj: i fkin luv u mate! thanks! |
| 01:52.00 | somiaj | Devastator: ls -ld (if you want to look at the directory) |
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| 01:52.59 | Devastator | somiaj got it, it shows drwxr-sr-x, is there a way to show it as 0XXX? |
| 01:53.21 | LtL | Devastator: stat /dir/ |
| 01:54.27 | Devastator | hum.. Access 2755 |
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| 01:54.34 | Devastator | thanks LtL, somiaj |
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| 01:55.55 | LtL | Devastator: 2 is setgid i think iirc |
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| 01:58.36 | dsdeiz | one more thing, when i try to restart a service i need to do sudo /etc/init.d/service restart, is there a way to shorten that? maybe something like 'sudo service service_name restart'? |
| 01:59.14 | somiaj | that works too |
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| 01:59.30 | dsdeiz | oh that already exists? |
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| 01:59.48 | dsdeiz | oh lol, thanks |
| 02:00.20 | somiaj | you could also use invoke-rc.d |
| 02:01.48 | dsdeiz | ah coolies thx |
| 02:03.18 | somiaj | I personally like /etc/init.d/service restart because of tab complition |
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| 02:05.03 | dsdeiz | both service and invoke.rc-d seems to show the available services on my end when i tab. maybe because im using zsh |
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| 02:06.13 | babilen | dsdeiz: bash completion does that too (if installed and enabled) |
| 02:07.06 | dsdeiz | ah hm, no idea. someone just recommended it to me. |
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| 02:33.44 | simplew | im trying to package an app but im constantly getting the same error, any help? |
| 02:34.48 | dvs | mindreads the error |
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| 02:35.33 | somiaj | simplew: also maybe give more details. Which app are you trying to package and does debian provide this package? |
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| 02:37.57 | simplew | somiaj: i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1346790 so i did put this in rules -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1346791 |
| 02:38.16 | simplew | somiaj: and with that in rules i continue getting the same error |
| 02:38.26 | somiaj | are you running ubuntu simplew ? |
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| 02:38.40 | simplew | im just using the pastebin |
| 02:38.57 | decci | I am unable to install Debian 6 64 bit on HP DL360 Gen8 .It says HDD not detected |
| 02:39.08 | somiaj | simplew: are you trying to build a ubuntu package on debian? |
| 02:39.43 | simplew | somiaj: no |
| 02:39.52 | decci | HP official website says Smart Array P420i as a Storage Controller |
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| 02:40.23 | simplew | somiaj: i simply imported that dir from the user ubuntu home |
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| 02:40.57 | somiaj | well your dh_auto_configure line in debian/rules is giving an error. you can try to run that ./configure command dicretly to see what the actual error is |
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| 02:41.52 | simplew | somiaj: the error is that continues using ${prefix}, looke at the line dh_auto_configure: |
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| 02:42.42 | simplew | somiaj: i ven tried to export "${prefix}"=/usr in rules but isnt making any difference |
| 02:43.11 | simplew | somiaj: than you got: --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info |
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| 02:50.00 | simplew | somiaj: configure:26937: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 02:51.24 | simplew | somiaj: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXt |
| 02:52.18 | simplew | somiaj: whats -lXt, what provides that? |
| 02:53.26 | simplew | somiaj: i have find it |
| 02:54.08 | simplew | somiaj: another thing, now that the build gaved error, if i run debbbbuild -uc -us it will also not run, what i need to do to clean the build envoriment? |
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| 03:27.38 | fleeky | http://vimeo.com/19228827 |
| 03:27.40 | fleeky | neato |
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| 03:42.32 | jpinx-trapper | I'm doing a full-upgrade squeze > wheezy over a very slow connection. Will it auto resume if I break the connection for a few hours? |
| 03:42.57 | JoshuaP | I don't think so. |
| 03:43.27 | jpinx-trapper | bummer :( |
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| 03:45.28 | JoshuaP | I think it might do that. |
| 03:45.30 | jpinx-trapper | it's still get-ting the packages - that is the slow part of the upgrade for me over gprs cnnection |
| 03:46.37 | JoshuaP | I would try to find a source of network stability when doing an upgrade. |
| 03:47.49 | jpinx-trapper | JoshuaP: yea - but this is an experimental vm - so I might experiment with the upgrade resume-ability ;) |
| 03:48.15 | JoshuaP | Sweet. |
| 03:48.18 | jpinx-trapper | just a pain to start from scratch again... |
| 03:48.47 | JoshuaP | Indeed. |
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| 03:50.25 | JoshuaP | I think the most harmful interruptions from apt is when it gets halted during the update processing itself when it is applying the updates to the packages and re-writing whatever and such. |
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| 04:03.20 | simonlnu | jpinx-trapper: yes. when fetching. when dpkg is in action, it's a little bit more sensitive, but you can always do a dpkg --configure -a |
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| 04:06.17 | jpinx-trapper | simonlnu: do I understand correctly that aptitude will resume the fetching from where it pauses? |
| 04:06.32 | simonlnu | yep. apt-get too |
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| 04:07.01 | jpinx-trapper | cool -- thanks - that is what I was hoping for |
| 04:08.04 | simonlnu | done this since forever. that's why the hashsums are important, but it's also a feature of http |
| 04:08.06 | jpinx-trapper | The actual upgrading needs supervision anyway, but I'll explore dpkg --configure -a |
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| 04:08.35 | simonlnu | actually no i'm wrong about the sums |
| 04:08.41 | jpinx-trapper | simonlnu: I've never had to break a connection during fetching - hence my ignorance ;) |
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| 04:22.08 | chaospsychex | does anyone in here know how i can tell if my lcd screen is XGA or SXGA? |
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| 04:23.59 | chaospsychex | i have a thinkpad t42 and the highest i can go on the screen resolution is 1024x768 but i think it can go higher |
| 04:24.31 | somiaj | chaospsychex: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what driver was loaded. You could just be using vesa which won't give you better resolution |
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| 04:25.37 | linux-fox | chaospsychex:please check what videocard you are using? and install the driver |
| 04:25.43 | Bird|lappy | great. why has dpkg stopped responding to /msg ? |
| 04:26.45 | chaospsychex | linux-fox: it's the radeon 7500 |
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| 04:27.40 | chaospsychex | yeah, it's using the vesa mod |
| 04:28.01 | linux-fox | chaospsychex:please go to the official website, and download the official driver |
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| 04:28.17 | Bird|lappy | never mind. :P |
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| 04:32.01 | chaospsychex | somiaj: that log file reports it loading both the vesa module and the radeon module ? |
| 04:32.15 | simonlnu | chaospsychex: you install the nvidia debian packages. do not download the nvidia web site's stuff, if you to continue having support for those packages here. |
| 04:32.24 | simonlnu | if you want to* |
| 04:32.43 | chaospsychex | simonlnu: what? i have a RADEON 7500 not nvidia..... |
| 04:32.43 | somiaj | chaospsychex: it is only using one of them, it will try a bunch of them and wait until it find ones that accepts your graphics card |
| 04:32.50 | simonlnu | same for radeon. in fact readon 7500 is supported by the free drivers |
| 04:32.55 | simonlnu | radeon |
| 04:33.12 | somiaj | chaospsychex: it could be your card is a bit to new for the radeon driver, read a bit more details and see what the radeon driver says about your card |
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| 04:33.25 | simonlnu | radeon 7500 isn't new |
| 04:33.28 | coyotebush | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7500 |
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| 04:34.25 | somiaj | simonlnu: for squeeze? yea I odn't know the radeon numbers that well...I have a 4200 so anything above that seems new to me |
| 04:34.45 | chaospsychex | somiaj: 4200 ? what is the max resolution you can get ? |
| 04:34.49 | simonlnu | i have a radeon 9000 and it works fine with the mesa and free drivers |
| 04:35.21 | somiaj | chaospsychex: if you are having trouble understanding your Xorg.0.log put a copy at paste.debian.net |
| 04:35.34 | simonlnu | chaospsychex: yeh sorry my bad, was a little automatic on my part |
| 04:35.48 | chaospsychex | somiaj: ok |
| 04:36.17 | somiaj | chaospsychex: but yea I get like 1400(or something) 15" standard laptop resolution with it and the free radeon drivers |
| 04:36.41 | chaospsychex | what exactly am i looking for in the Xorg.0.log file? it seems to carry on as expected |
| 04:36.46 | simonlnu | is still a little zonked |
| 04:36.50 | chaospsychex | it detects the card and loads it up |
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| 04:37.28 | somiaj | it should tell you what card you have, what resolutions it detects your card and monintor support, etc. |
| 04:37.59 | chaospsychex | it does |
| 04:38.27 | chaospsychex | it also says 'GPU accel disabled or not working, using shadowfb for KMS' ? |
| 04:39.09 | chaospsychex | it says 'direct rendering disabled' ? |
| 04:39.09 | somiaj | have you installed linux-firmware-nonfree from non-free -- this shoudln't effect 2d graphics but does effect 3d |
| 04:39.50 | somiaj | that is most likely due to not having the non-free firmware |
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| 04:41.42 | simonlnu | yeh, and why kms won't be active |
| 04:42.04 | somiaj | though I don't know why it is effecting your 2d resolution, I thought you were supose to get some free support with radeon |
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| 04:43.55 | simonlnu | it could yes. did on mine if i didn't have the firmware. certainly affected kms |
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| 04:44.06 | simonlnu | !kms |
| 04:44.06 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
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| 05:31.58 | sadec | hey all |
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| 05:36.06 | rodgerisrad | hi there |
| 05:36.18 | average_drifter | any software to download an entire mailing list for offline reading ? |
| 05:38.24 | rodgerisrad | i'm using the downthemall extension for firefox, but there are better extensions out there. |
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| 05:39.46 | average_drifter | rodgerisrad: for downloading that |
| 05:39.47 | average_drifter | ? |
| 05:40.06 | rodgerisrad | yes, from the index page |
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| 06:02.10 | InFlames | Does anyone have somewhere I can read on how to tell Debian which is my main display? I can't seem to find something that is exactly related |
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| 06:04.26 | shadow_fox | i just made one fullupgrade and it removed iceweasel now saying i have to remove around 60 packages to install what to do |
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| 06:05.28 | shadow_fox | and from synaptic i cant install it says cant install xulrunner 16.0 :( |
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| 06:06.27 | simonlnu | don't mix releases |
| 06:06.52 | jpinx-trapper | shadow_fox: sounds like you have trifle in there ;) |
| 06:06.59 | shadow_fox | yeah |
| 06:07.12 | shadow_fox | everywhere it says cant install or not installable packages |
| 06:07.14 | shadow_fox | :( |
| 06:07.32 | jpinx-trapper | shadow_fox: pastebin your sources.lst |
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| 06:07.38 | shadow_fox | ok. |
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| 06:10.09 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: https://gist.github.com/4050120 |
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| 06:15.48 | jpinx-trapper | shadow_fox: I'd comment out the one line saying "stable main" as a duplicate. pastebin your commands and their output |
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| 06:17.01 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: the earlier commands that i had run ? or the update results? |
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| 06:18.02 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: the half of the querries are gone from the display , how do i retrieve those results also ? |
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| 06:18.50 | jpinx-trapper | !tell shadow_fox about pastebinit |
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| 06:24.34 | Cstdenis | I'm having a problem with what appears to be a dependancy loop with different versions of libc. Can sombody help me? apt-get output: http://pastebin.ca/2250238 |
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| 06:24.38 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: got it pastebinit, now which results you want me send ? |
| 06:25.21 | jpinx-trapper | shadow_fox: whatever was causing you trouble.. |
| 06:25.54 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: pasting the results of iceweasel installation error |
| 06:26.24 | somiaj | Cstdenis: are you trying to mix versions of debian -- what is the aoutput of apt-cache policy |
| 06:26.42 | jpinx-trapper | shadow_fox: make sure you pastebin the commands you use ;) |
| 06:26.55 | shadow_fox | yes |
| 06:27.11 | Cstdenis | I think it's caused by changes I made in the past to sources.lst between various versions. I only have wheezy in the list at the moment. |
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| 06:29.05 | simonlnu | did you dist-upgrade after you did that? |
| 06:29.41 | Cstdenis | no, dist-upgrade gives a similiar error |
| 06:29.43 | Cstdenis | apt-cache policy => http://pastebin.com/zsiBkuyY |
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| 06:30.40 | Cstdenis | dist-upgrade output: pastebin.ca/index.php |
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| 06:33.32 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: well pastebinit isn't doing anything it just sits there |
| 06:34.11 | shadow_fox | tried this sudo aptitude install iceweasel | pastebinit |
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| 06:34.41 | jpinx-trapper | shadow_fox: did you not read the dpkg message ? |
| 06:35.59 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: i did the same way it suggested the squeeze users to do , but thats also the giving me the same thing |
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| 06:38.45 | Cstdenis | somiaj, simonlnu: any suggestions? |
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| 06:40.13 | simonlnu | ok, did you do apt-get -f install ? |
| 06:41.01 | Cstdenis | simonlnu: Yes, If failes. It's in my first paste: http://pastebin.ca/2250238 |
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| 06:44.22 | simonlnu | ,versions libc-dev-bin |
| 06:44.22 | judd | Package: libc-dev-bin on i386 -- squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-35; sid: 2.13-36 |
| 06:44.22 | simonlnu | so install those versions, like: apt-get install libc-dev-bin=2.13-35 (etc.) |
| 06:44.22 | simonlnu | make sure you've run an update first |
| 06:44.22 | InFlames | anyone know where i configure debian to know which monitor is primary and which is secondary? |
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| 06:44.22 | Cstdenis | judd: that gives the error: libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (> 2.13) but 2.11.2-6 is to be installed |
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| 06:44.23 | simonlnu | xrandr, xorg.conf (and xorg.conf.d/) - usually the first detected is "primary". if you don't want that, you'll need to specify it |
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| 06:44.23 | Cstdenis | Basically it seems that there is a dpendancy loop between libc and libc-dev-bin |
| 06:44.30 | simonlnu | Cstdenis: ahem, note the (etc.) in my comment to you, implying that you need to do the rest of those in http://pastebin.ca/2250238 |
| 06:44.38 | InFlames | i didn't see anything in xrandr that would let me change which was primary, perhaps xorg |
| 06:45.06 | simonlnu | Cstdenis: the packagename=debian_version argument needs the real package version |
| 06:45.18 | simonlnu | ,versions libc6 |
| 06:45.19 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-35; sid: 2.13-36 |
| 06:45.30 | simonlnu | you can also find this info on packages.debian.org |
| 06:46.09 | shadow_fox | i cant pastebinit the aptitude install results, it just sits there, its been 5 mins |
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| 06:47.47 | simonlnu | you probably have to pipe it or use it stdin |
| 06:47.52 | simonlnu | its* |
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| 06:48.38 | LemLap | sigh, I really should stick debian on this thing |
| 06:48.44 | Cstdenis | now I get errors about "E: Version '2.11.2-6' for 'libc-bin' was not found". I think I have some bits of sid installed (which is no longer in my source.lst. Is there a way to force it to just re-download/reinstall all packages based on wheezy (even tho it's a downgrade)? |
| 06:48.54 | LemLap | just because it wouldn't suck so hard when resuming from sleep/hibernat |
| 06:49.13 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: i used this command under root aptitude install iceweasel | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net |
| 06:50.51 | simonlnu | Cstdenis: that is wheezy's |
| 06:51.26 | simonlnu | shadow_fox: you can just c&p it then. there's a number of ways you can do that |
| 06:51.30 | simonlnu | !gpm |
| 06:51.31 | dpkg | gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the application itself interprets the mouse clicks. http://www.nico.schottelius.org/software/gpm/ #gpm on irc.freenode.org. |
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| 06:53.39 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: i am in laptop and my left click and right click isn't working still i can copy paste though , but the result is huge thats why i need something to paste it so that i can publish it here and you fine people will have a look at the results |
| 06:55.23 | shadow_fox | well i guess under root its not working.. . |
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| 06:55.57 | shadow_fox | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.31 | shadow_fox | jpinx-trapper: if you are there this is my sudo apt-get install iceweasel result . Now its showing can't install earlier it was showing have to remove a lot of packages. http://paste.debian.net/207956/ |
| 06:57.50 | InFlames | woohoo, got it |
| 06:59.28 | simonlnu | pastebinit isn't working for me either... |
| 06:59.50 | simonlnu | was trying a few things, none of it did anything. anyway... |
| 07:00.26 | simonlnu | shadow_fox: apt-cache policy xulrunner-16.0 please |
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| 07:02.38 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: this is what i am getting now https://gist.github.com/4050242. |
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| 07:04.24 | awc737 | my ls command randomly broke on squeeze |
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| 07:04.29 | awc737 | I hadn't even update anything |
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| 07:04.40 | awc737 | I get ls: unrecognized prefix: rs |
| 07:04.48 | awc737 | ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variabel |
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| 07:07.02 | simonlnu | shadow_fox: ok, you know what? i dislike having to use the aptitude CLI for this sort of thing. for me, i find it easier to resolve issues like this via the ncurses ui. i find it less confusing. you can navigate around with / > search; b > find broken package; g > execute changes. then you can go "inside each one and + (install) what's needed. (more) |
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| 07:07.37 | simonlnu | shadow_fox: from that output, it seems to me it wants to remove some things. you can choose to keep that, or let it remove it |
| 07:08.49 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: it wants to remove a lot of things including open office evolution everything :( |
| 07:09.08 | simonlnu | yes yes, it's ok. just don't panic :) |
| 07:09.56 | simonlnu | awc737: did you mess with LS_COLORS in .bashrc or such? |
| 07:10.09 | awc737 | i definitely haven't touched it |
| 07:10.14 | awc737 | oh I did add my user to sudoers |
| 07:10.21 | shadow_fox | should i go with it ?? or should i update the source to default so that will only update and install recommended packages ? |
| 07:10.21 | awc737 | but thats so simple |
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| 07:11.51 | LemLap | awc737, maybe try logging in as a different user and see if you still get the same error |
| 07:12.00 | awc737 | no root does not have the error |
| 07:12.44 | simonlnu | shadow_fox: that big list is all the recommended stuff i suspect |
| 07:12.48 | LemLap | login as root, create a new user, make sure it doesn't happen in another non-root user |
| 07:13.17 | LemLap | if it doesn't it's user specific, and could be related to the change you made (nfi how though) |
| 07:13.41 | shadow_fox | ok then simonlnu i am going to tsay yes lets see how many packages it will remove then i have to reinstall everything |
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| 07:16.33 | shadow_fox | saying yes it says it will remove these packages and left me with nothing,, https://gist.github.com/4050242 |
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| 07:22.58 | simonlnu | shadow_fox: um, i wouldn't do that |
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| 07:24.30 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: libnspr4 is conflicting as suggested from the aptitude |
| 07:24.49 | simonlnu | yes, and probably needs to be removed |
| 07:25.35 | shadow_fox | let me try to find that synaptic |
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| 07:27.22 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: that one package is responsible for all other packages to run, how to downgrade a package to a suggested version coz if i remove libnspr4 package then also i am getting msg it will remove all those that mentioned in gist. |
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| 07:28.35 | simonlnu | i very much doubt that. the mozilla and nss stuff yes, but not the whole system. did you try what i suggested earlier? (apparently not) |
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| 07:29.32 | shadow_fox | no i didnt. |
| 07:29.40 | shadow_fox | lemme try that pne lets see |
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| 07:31.00 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: http://paste.debian.net/207960/ |
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| 07:31.53 | simonlnu | i meant from earlier, WRT the UI |
| 07:32.45 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: you can direct aptitude CLI to try something different, eg tell it to keep a certain package from the list at the "Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] " prompt |
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| 07:37.10 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: if i say yes it will prompt me that list to remove that i already pasted. now if i say no it will show me around the same with a little different packages to remove |
| 07:38.02 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: you can also say ? and get lots more options |
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| 07:38.18 | shadow_fox | simonlnu: not sure about the ncurses ui . |
| 07:38.30 | shadow_fox | let me paste it jelly-home |
| 07:39.37 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: eg. r 13 37 will tell aptitude to reject actions numbered 13 and 37 (removal of packages gnome, openoffice.org) |
| 07:40.10 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: https://gist.github.com/4050317 |
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| 07:41.47 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: now refuse removal of a few important metapackages, type "r 7 13 37 61" press enter, and then at the next prompt say "n" |
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| 07:42.29 | jelly-home | that way aptitude knows you don't want to remove those, and will take that into account when searching for the next "solution" |
| 07:42.35 | shadow_fox | jelly-home : what about the gnome-associated packages |
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| 07:42.47 | awc737 | yay it's released! |
| 07:43.22 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: they ought to be covered by metapackage deps |
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| 07:43.40 | shadow_fox | ohk |
| 07:44.16 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: if you refuse "Remove [...] 13) gnome" everything that "gnome" package brings in has to stay |
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| 07:44.34 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: got it |
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| 07:46.00 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: it did nothing if i say no, have to say yes after rejecting the packages |
| 07:46.09 | jelly-home | nope |
| 07:46.30 | jelly-home | paste the further output please |
| 07:46.36 | shadow_fox | ok |
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| 07:47.58 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: while you're at it, can you also paste "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy iceweasel libnspr4 libnspr4-0d xulrunner-16.0", I can't find them in the log |
| 07:48.53 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: after rejecting the selected packages https://gist.github.com/4050338 |
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| 07:48.58 | jelly-home | aptitude ought not "do nothing" at this point, at the very least it would say there are no more solutions found |
| 07:48.58 | awc737 | why is none of these CLI only? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta3/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 07:49.01 | shadow_fox | yeah sure one sec |
| 07:49.02 | awc737 | you have to have a desktop with it? |
| 07:49.15 | awc737 | i just want a shell |
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| 07:50.07 | jelly-home | awc737: why would it have to be CLI only? If you want to boot to text-based installed, use the appropriate boot parameter |
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| 07:50.15 | jelly-home | installer* |
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| 07:51.29 | jelly-home | awc737: if you want to _install_ a CLI only, just install the base system only from netinst or any CD-1 image |
| 07:51.49 | simonlnu | jumps back in for a bit |
| 07:51.50 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: all those requested reports https://gist.github.com/4050344 |
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| 07:53.03 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: ah. You seem to be installing a package from squeeze-backports, but have forgotten to specify -t squeeze-backports in the command line |
| 07:53.19 | awc737 | jelly-home in my experience netinst takes foreeeever loading packages |
| 07:54.02 | shadow_fox | ohh jelly-home: i should do aptitude install iceweasel -t squeeze-backports |
| 07:54.05 | shadow_fox | ? |
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| 07:54.20 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install iceweasel |
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| 07:55.00 | jelly-home | !bdo |
| 07:55.00 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>. |
| 07:55.04 | jelly-home | just like http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ says |
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| 07:56.42 | shadow_fox | yeah finally jelly-home: |
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| 07:57.29 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: how to see which files are not upgraded ? |
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| 07:59.03 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: that -t option temporarily changes the target release to squeeze-backports, so aptitude thinks all the packages in squeeze-backports repo might get upgraded. You don't want to do that however. |
| 07:59.13 | jelly-home | s/might/could/ |
| 08:00.01 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: actually its showing some 103 not upgraded thats why asked. Thank You :-) |
| 08:00.26 | jelly-home | ignore the "not upgraded" bit when cherry-picking stuff using aptitude -t squeeze-backports install ... |
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| 08:01.18 | shadow_fox | Ok. |
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| 08:14.59 | gour | morning |
| 08:15.00 | gour | are there command history & line-editing capabilities available in dash shell? |
| 08:15.44 | formorer | no. |
| 08:15.57 | formorer | dash is not really for interactive use |
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| 08:22.50 | gour | formorer: hmm, but it's set as 'default' in wheezy? for my uid, i use zsh, but wondered why dash for other system accounts |
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| 08:25.02 | gnarface | i thought the whole point of dash was that it was just enough bash for initscripts without being unecessarily slow |
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| 08:25.15 | gnarface | i can't imagine why you'd want to try to use it as your login shell |
| 08:25.22 | gnarface | there doesn't seem to be any point in doing that at all |
| 08:26.05 | simonlnu | gour: your user is not a system account. |
| 08:26.49 | gour | gnarface: well, e.g. amanda-server is configured to run as backup:backup and 'backup' account has /bin/sh as default? |
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| 08:27.14 | gour | simonlnu: that's clear... |
| 08:27.20 | simonlnu | so? it's not run interactively. |
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| 08:27.53 | gour | simonlnu: how it does not? e.g. amadmin, amrecover etc. ? |
| 08:28.18 | simonlnu | those are binaries. it's not run from sh |
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| 08:28.33 | simonlnu | they're |
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| 08:29.06 | gour | i've to run them via su backup -c cmd and then PATH is not set properly and cannot have history etc. |
| 08:29.41 | simonlnu | ok, so what's the real issue here? |
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| 08:30.13 | gour | that dash is not appropriate shell for it and it's set by default |
| 08:30.35 | gour | i know i can fix it, just wonder why such default |
| 08:31.16 | simonlnu | i don't use that, and and i don't know what you're doing, so i can't speak to that |
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| 08:32.47 | simonlnu | as for your PATH not being set, is it not set in /etc/profile? |
| 08:32.51 | gour | i simply have to use amanda's cli utilities and /bin/sh as default is not the best shell for those running under 'backup' uid:gid |
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| 08:33.27 | cinzia93 | ciao |
| 08:33.32 | simonlnu | goes to sleep |
| 08:33.48 | cinzia93 | !list |
| 08:33.48 | dpkg | cinzia93: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 08:35.36 | gour | no, /usr/sbin is not included due to 'backup's uid |
| 08:36.22 | gour | ..not being a root's one |
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| 08:47.46 | jelly-home | shadow_fox: a normal "aptitude safe-upgrade" or "aptitude full-upgrade" ought to show a smaller number for those |
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| 08:50.41 | shadow_fox | jelly-home: that actually removed iceweasel in the first place. |
| 08:50.55 | shadow_fox | aptitude full-upgrade |
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| 09:00.25 | chovy | my Makefile is being ignored it looks like |
| 09:00.35 | chovy | when i run 'make test' it says nothing to do |
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| 09:00.48 | ectospasm | chovy: touch one of the files in that rule |
| 09:01.14 | ectospasm | ...you'll have to look at the Makefile to determine which files you need to touch |
| 09:01.58 | themill | chovy: is "test" a .PHONY target? |
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| 09:03.44 | chovy | i don't know what .PHONY is for |
| 09:04.08 | chovy | toching the test.js didn't do anyting |
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| 09:04.45 | chovy | my makefile deosn't reference any files |
| 09:04.46 | chovy | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13320653/make-test-doesnt-do-anything-for-mocha-tests |
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| 09:07.26 | Dynetrekk | hi, (raspberry pi, wheezy), I've installed owncloud from aptitude. apache has started, I'm getting the default page. now, how do I actually start owncloud? |
| 09:08.15 | Dynetrekk | never mind, never mind. I figured it out. sheesh, why do I always figure stuff out just after asking? |
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| 09:09.42 | ectospasm | Dynetrekk: sometimes it works that way |
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| 09:11.12 | chovy | Dynetrekk: i wish that would happne to me right now |
| 09:11.17 | Dynetrekk | ectospasm: I just had to add /owncloud to the IP :P |
| 09:11.20 | Dynetrekk | chovy: wazzup then? |
| 09:11.25 | Dynetrekk | you have to ask for it to work |
| 09:12.17 | chovy | i already asked |
| 09:12.29 | chovy | my makefile doesn't do anything |
| 09:12.33 | Dynetrekk | chovy: .PHONY? in makefiles? |
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| 09:12.47 | Dynetrekk | .PHONY = all clean (for example) |
| 09:13.04 | chovy | what are you saying? I know shit about make |
| 09:13.43 | Dynetrekk | in the make syntax, foo: bar means that the file foo is a "target" to be generated. it depends on file "bar". |
| 09:13.59 | Dynetrekk | .PHONY targets are not files to be generated. they are just commands/functions that you can run |
| 09:14.13 | chovy | yeah so its a test |
| 09:14.14 | Dynetrekk | "clean" isn't a file you want to create. it is an action you want to take |
| 09:14.25 | chovy | i just am supposed to run 'make test' and it will run my mocha tests |
| 09:14.29 | chovy | but it doesn't do anything |
| 09:14.36 | Dynetrekk | chovy: post the makefile somewhere? |
| 09:14.44 | chovy | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13320653/make-test-doesnt-do-anything-for-mocha-tests |
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| 09:15.42 | Dynetrekk | chovy: weird. I don't know what the NODE_ENV thing does though. |
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| 09:16.21 | Dynetrekk | chovy: try just running "ls" first, see if that works |
| 09:16.22 | simonlnu | trailing backslash |
| 09:16.35 | Dynetrekk | ah, right. excellent, simonlnu |
| 09:16.38 | chovy | NODE_ENV=test |
| 09:16.42 | chovy | it's an evn var |
| 09:16.50 | chovy | run ls? |
| 09:17.06 | chovy | ls worked |
| 09:17.11 | Dynetrekk | chovy: simonlnu figured it out for you. syntax error. |
| 09:17.46 | chovy | all its suppoed to do is run this cmd: |
| 09:17.47 | chovy | NODE_ENV=test ./node_modules/.bin/mocha |
| 09:18.01 | themill | chovy: are you actually indenting with tabs in your Makefile? |
| 09:18.14 | simonlnu | real tabs |
| 09:18.28 | chovy | oh man |
| 09:18.35 | chovy | more cut/paste crap |
| 09:18.37 | Dynetrekk | chovy: set your editor to show tabs. |
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| 09:19.17 | simonlnu | also that extra backslash, gonna cause problems too. tabs are *important* too as themill pointed out |
| 09:19.21 | themill | makefiles are annoying on their reliance on tabs |
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| 09:19.28 | simonlnu | is now really going to sleep |
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| 09:20.14 | chovy | Dynetrekk: thanks |
| 09:20.28 | bool | I think there is a bug in the tasksel package which recently was updated. it tries to place tasksel.config inside /tmp and execute it. I dont think temp-files should be executables |
| 09:21.02 | boudiccas | bolt, what version of debian are you talking about please? |
| 09:21.11 | bool | this is wheezy |
| 09:21.20 | themill | bool: dpkg relies on an executable /tmp too |
| 09:21.28 | boudiccas | ah, it does help if you mention that first |
| 09:21.37 | bool | boudiccas: sorry. |
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| 09:21.49 | bool | themill: isnt that kind of bad practice? |
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| 09:24.01 | themill | bool: not if tmpfile creation is safely done |
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| 09:24.43 | cybes | can a normal user customize the color using $PS1="$HC "like that in .bashrc |
| 09:24.50 | ectospasm | cybes: yes |
| 09:24.51 | cybes | hi themill :) |
| 09:24.57 | cybes | hi ectospasm |
| 09:25.10 | cybes | but that didn't worked |
| 09:25.20 | cybes | i mean the color didn't change |
| 09:25.24 | themill | that syntax doesn't look right |
| 09:25.28 | ectospasm | cybes: what is $HC? |
| 09:25.33 | cybes | hicolor |
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| 09:25.47 | bool | boudiccas: can't exec /tmp/tasksel.config.40071 in /usr/share/perl/5.14/IPC/Open3.pm line 186 and /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 59 |
| 09:25.52 | ectospasm | Oh... I dunno if that's a variable that's automatically set |
| 09:26.09 | bool | themill: I believe many servers have their /tmp partition mounted not executable |
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| 09:26.36 | cybes | no its not automatically set |
| 09:26.52 | Jaleks | yesterday someone told me 'info' was some special Debian thing, not so much a general Linux tool - is that more true or more untrue? |
| 09:27.01 | cybes | we should set using $FYEL for forground yellow color |
| 09:27.03 | ectospasm | Jaleks: untrue, info is a GNU thing |
| 09:27.04 | cybes | like that |
| 09:27.18 | themill | bool: I can't say I've ever used a server that has been set like that. But you can either configure dpkg to work around that or change the noexec option before and after. /msg dpkg tmp noexec |
| 09:27.25 | ectospasm | cybes: I just use the ANSI escape sequences directly |
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| 09:27.45 | cybes | could you pls show that the syntax |
| 09:27.49 | bool | themill: thanks |
| 09:28.11 | cybes | you use for coloring your /u /h etc |
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| 09:28.23 | ectospasm | cybes: like this: PS1='\[\e[1;35m\]\u\[\e[0;33m\]@\[\e[1;32m\]\h\[\e[0;33m\]:\[\e[1;34m\]\W \[\e[1;36m\]\$ \[\e[0m' |
| 09:28.53 | cybes | so the numbers represents color code right? |
| 09:29.23 | ectospasm | the \e[NN;XX\] is a color escape sequence |
| 09:30.05 | ectospasm | NN==bold,blink,normal,etc; YY==color code |
| 09:30.19 | cybes | ok ectospasm..so that work even if we are not root right?by just doing it in ourown .bshrc ..hmm? |
| 09:30.28 | ectospasm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_color |
| 09:30.31 | ectospasm | cybes: ^ |
| 09:30.39 | ectospasm | cybes: works as a normal user |
| 09:30.51 | ectospasm | cybes: as long as the terminal supports color |
| 09:30.52 | cybes | many thanks ectospasm |
| 09:31.11 | cybes | i'm goin to try that :) |
| 09:31.20 | ectospasm | cybes: that example I provided is for my non-root user's .bashrc |
| 09:31.32 | cybes | ok |
| 09:32.10 | ectospasm | you can play around with the color if you want |
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| 09:32.31 | ectospasm | depending on the terminal emulator, you can even do blink, underline, bold, etc. |
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| 09:33.20 | cybes | oh cool dude that worked well |
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| 09:33.36 | cybes | emulator? |
| 09:34.09 | ectospasm | cybes: yeah, like gnome-terminal, konsole, rxvt-unicode... |
| 09:34.17 | Dynetrekk | does it make sense at all to store user data in /var/lib ? |
| 09:34.25 | Dynetrekk | user data, as in owncloud user data |
| 09:34.54 | ectospasm | maybe... maybe /var/spool might be slightly better if it changes often |
| 09:35.06 | ectospasm | ...but it's really up to the admin |
| 09:35.13 | ectospasm | as long as s/he's consistent |
| 09:35.33 | ectospasm | many times there's no "right" way to do it, just the way everybody else does it |
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| 09:36.45 | bool | themill: dpkg tells me to use /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/tmp-noexec, but all the other files in that dir starts with numbers. Should I prepend tmp-noexec with a number? |
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| 09:44.59 | boudiccas | ectospasm, i've tried to incorporate your .bashrc colour line sequence into my .bashrc and this is what I've got http://paste.debian.net/207973/ . My last line gives "[boztu:Sat Nov 10 09:44:03 @~]$ [501]>; " which I want to keep if I can, so please, how do I get the colour codes yet retain my prompt line please? |
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| 09:48.25 | ectospasm | boudiccas: hold on... |
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| 09:48.57 | boudiccas | simplew, please dont pm people without asking their permission first, its impolite |
| 09:49.07 | boudiccas | ectospasm, thanks |
| 09:49.35 | simplew | boudiccas: thats just attitude, whatever |
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| 09:50.52 | boudiccas | simplew, but to answer your questions, I'm from the UK |
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| 09:51.13 | simplew | boudiccas: i ddnt ask that, neither i care |
| 09:52.05 | ectospasm | http://paste.debian.net/207976/ boudiccas |
| 09:52.14 | boudiccas | ectospasm, thanks |
| 09:52.25 | ectospasm | there's a first stab... you'll need to play with some of the codes, get the colors you want |
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| 09:53.35 | jmartinez | hi there |
| 09:54.08 | jmartinez | could anybody give me a hand with a route networking problem? I don't know why are been added to defaults gw: http://paste.laravel.com/awP |
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| 09:56.34 | boudiccas | ". Isthere any way fo getting that odd character out please? |
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| 09:57.23 | ectospasm | boudiccas: you've got an extra escape or something |
| 09:57.36 | ectospasm | maybe that '\ ' character after the \$ |
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| 09:57.49 | boudiccas | ectospasm, i just copied and pasted into the .bashrc from the pastie site |
| 09:58.14 | ectospasm | boudiccas: yeah, and I pasted PS1 on my system, and I don't see the unprintable character |
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| 09:59.11 | boudiccas | ectospasm, maybe its from my locale being GB? |
| 09:59.24 | ectospasm | boudiccas: where do you see the small square? Before or after what characters? |
| 09:59.45 | case` | am installing firmware drivers for a wifi device' where to put the .ko module file? |
| 10:00.03 | boudiccas | ectospasm, it shows in the prompt that i pasted here, immediately after the @ |
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| 10:00.44 | ectospasm | case`: should go in /lib/module/$(uname -r) |
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| 10:00.54 | ectospasm | boudiccas: you mean the left square bracket? |
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| 10:01.33 | ectospasm | boudiccas: after the PWD prints? |
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| 10:01.45 | case` | ectospasm: thankyou. |
| 10:02.06 | ectospasm | case`: it may need to go in a subdirectory therein |
| 10:02.15 | ectospasm | ...depends on the module |
| 10:02.51 | boudiccas | ectospasm, i get " @[unprintable character] }$ |
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| 10:03.55 | ectospasm | boudiccas: where is the curly brace coming from? |
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| 10:04.19 | boudiccas | ectospasm, sorry, typo, should be ] |
| 10:05.31 | case` | ectospasm: is a ralink.. am running a "dedian sid arm" port on a cheap chinese netbook' and have had nothing but trouble with the wireless, lsusb can see device, just can't seem to start it or even configure device. |
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| 10:06.14 | ectospasm | because according to the string I pasted, you should have \[\e[0m@\[1;34m\]\w]\$ << boudiccas |
| 10:06.28 | ectospasm | boudiccas: what terminal emulator do you use? |
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| 10:10.20 | boudiccas | ectospasm, gnome-terminal in xfce under wheezy |
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| 10:11.44 | ectospasm | boudiccas: that's some crap in gnome-terminal... I don't get that diamond in urxvt |
| 10:12.16 | ectospasm | I do see it in gnome-terminal though |
| 10:12.17 | boudiccas | ectospasm, k, thanks, i'll try another terminal then |
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| 10:13.03 | ectospasm | boudiccas: seems to occur in every VTE terminal I try |
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| 10:14.40 | boudiccas | ectospasm, this is odd, it shows in xfce terminal too, and i have "[\e[0m@\[\e[1;34m\]£ as part of the line |
| 10:15.22 | boudiccas | ah, mine has an extra 1e in, so i'll take it out |
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| 10:19.55 | ectospasm | I think XFCE uses a VTE terminal |
| 10:20.59 | boudiccas | ectospasm, thanks, its sorted now, this is now the correct snippet "\e[0m@\e[1;34m\]\w]\$" |
| 10:21.30 | ectospasm | must not have liked the \[ |
| 10:21.40 | ectospasm | you may want to play with the colors |
| 10:21.49 | ectospasm | My colors are Mardi Gras colors |
| 10:21.55 | ectospasm | just cuz |
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| 10:23.29 | cybes | ectospasm: i tried the code for blink "/e 6" but didn't worked out :( |
| 10:24.25 | ectospasm | cybes: depends on your terminal emulator, really |
| 10:24.37 | ectospasm | ...some won't do blink |
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| 10:24.51 | ectospasm | cybes: and besides, the MSDOS fast blink isn't widely supported |
| 10:25.00 | ectospasm | cybes: try 5 instead of 6 |
| 10:25.22 | cybes | ok dude |
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| 10:28.31 | linux-fox | hi,guys |
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| 10:29.29 | orl | Hi! |
| 10:29.47 | rainfyre | hi |
| 10:30.12 | cybes | ectospasm:could you show an example for blink syntax pls |
| 10:31.07 | orl | I would like to build my own installation CD (first step), I'm trying to use simple-cdd, but even using the most basic option (build-simple-cdd), the iso I get is not usable, as it appears not to contain any kernel module |
| 10:31.21 | orl | (I'm using Debian SID) |
| 10:31.38 | ectospasm | cybes: for every code you want to blink. Change \e[1;XXm\] to \e[5;XXm\] |
| 10:32.14 | ectospasm | cybes: if it doesn't work in your terminal emulator I don't know what to tell you other than try a different terminal emulator. |
| 10:32.32 | ectospasm | IIRC blink doesn't work in VTE-based terminals (e.g. gnome-terminal) |
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| 10:37.44 | linux-fox | how can i modify the default editor for debian? |
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| 10:40.10 | babilen | linux-fox: Run "update-alternatives --conf $FOO" with $FOO being "editor" or "gnome-editor" for whatever you want to set. I would also encourage you to set the $EDITOR and $VISUAL environment variable in your users shell |
| 10:40.38 | babilen | linux-fox: err, I've just double-checked and it is "gnome-text-editor" not "gnome-editor" :) |
| 10:41.32 | babilen | gets more coffee |
| 10:41.44 | babilen | linux-fox: It is also "update-alternatives --config $FOO" *sigh* |
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| 10:43.06 | linux-fox | babilen:i was working cli for debian , |
| 10:43.21 | linux-fox | babilen:i only use cli |
| 10:44.22 | babilen | linux-fox: I guess that you don't care about gnome-text-editor then :) |
| 10:44.32 | pc_magas | Hello I have installed the transmission daemon and I chagned the directory that saves the files |
| 10:45.09 | babilen | linux-fox: The best approach (IMHO) is to set the system's default editor to a reasonable choice (e.g. nano or vim) and configure it per-user by setting EDITOR |
| 10:45.16 | linux-fox | babilen: are there some varibles or config file to modify default editor? |
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| 10:45.36 | babilen | linux-fox: I've already told you (EDITOR and VISUAL) |
| 10:45.52 | babilen | !tell linux-fox about alternatives |
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| 10:46.44 | pc_magas | but even though I set the folder as 777 (using chmod) and set to user debian-transmission and to group debian-transmission I get from web-gui (tranmission-cli) the error "Permission Denied" when I try to download a torrent file |
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| 10:50.30 | schreber | Silly question but for those with a Raspberry PI has testing or experimental been approved or at the very least made workable or does Debian suggest sticking with stable [as opposed to running its "Raspian(?)" spin)? |
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| 10:52.43 | cybes | ectospasm: okay dude :) |
| 10:52.44 | eptalon | schreber: what would suggest that on a rasperry, testing or unstable would have problems other than the usual problems on any arch? |
| 10:52.54 | cybes | thanks for the info |
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| 10:53.46 | ectospasm | no problem |
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| 10:53.52 | ectospasm | cybes: ^ |
| 10:54.09 | eptalon | schreber: iirc, the pi has some kind of arm cpu, have you tried testing/arm,unstable/arm, or experimental/arm? |
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| 10:54.50 | schreber | eptalon, not yet, I wanted to see what others have tried/experienced prior to diving into it. |
| 10:55.14 | _Lucretia_ | hi, been trying to build a stock gcc from fsf on debian, fails on using crt*.o files. tried the multiarch-2012-07-08.patch with and withou --enable-multiarch on the configure line, still complains about not being able to find crt*.o |
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| 10:55.19 | _Lucretia_ | any ideas? |
| 10:56.14 | eptalon | _Lucretia_: looked at the dependencies of the gcc package? |
| 10:57.39 | eptalon | _Lucretia_: http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/gcc-4.4 |
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| 10:57.45 | _Lucretia_ | well, the aim is to use the system libs, but to build a new native compiler so i cn build a cross compiler using it |
| 10:57.57 | _Lucretia_ | also, i'm on testing |
| 10:58.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps, i am fixing to install thre dreaded windows 7 on my pc at home, but i want to prepare grub2 for the screw up to it, so can i mody my .cfg prior to make it easier? |
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| 10:59.06 | _Lucretia_ | eptalon: so the deps shouldn't be a problem really if I use the system libs...also, this is because the libs moved to /usr/lib/<arch> |
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| 11:01.42 | eptalon | _Lucretia_: what version gcc are we talking about? 4.4? |
| 11:02.00 | _Lucretia_ | gcc from svn |
| 11:02.10 | _Lucretia_ | for our project we need latest Ada |
| 11:02.43 | eptalon | _Lucretia_: ada as in that pascal-like language? |
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| 11:03.56 | _Lucretia_ | yup |
| 11:04.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok i thik i found it, been awhile since i had to play this game heh |
| 11:04.45 | [TheFlash] | hi, i'm trying to install Debian stable on a Fujitsu Amilo LA1703, but the openchrome driver doesn't work |
| 11:05.17 | [TheFlash] | it works correctly with the vesa driver |
| 11:05.45 | [TheFlash] | but the openchrome driver just hangs the kernel, even though the chipset is properly detected |
| 11:07.00 | orl | hmmm, is simple-cdd a good way to make Debian install CD? |
| 11:07.10 | orl | I'm wondering whether it's not a bit deprecated |
| 11:07.16 | eptalon | _Lucretia_: http://packages.debian.org/sid/gcc-snapshot ? |
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| 11:09.09 | [TheFlash] | in anyone else having problems with the openchrome driver? |
| 11:09.19 | [TheFlash] | *is |
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| 11:09.45 | eptalon | orl: looks like a wrapper, so no? |
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| 11:10.47 | orl | eptalon: don't know, what do you mean by wrapper? |
| 11:10.57 | orl | (I'm french, sorry) |
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| 11:11.49 | eptalon | orl: it is a script that uses other tools. |
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| 11:12.15 | orl | yeah, I think so... but it's also a package |
| 11:12.33 | orl | on Debian's website, it's said, it's the best solution if you don't need more |
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| 11:13.00 | eptalon | orl: what do you need? |
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| 11:13.30 | orl | eptalon: I need to build a custom installer (first step), and maybe a custome "distribution" (next step), with self-built package, and so on |
| 11:13.37 | orl | so I'm trying all the ways that exists by now |
| 11:13.53 | orl | live-build, simple-cdd, debian-cd, DebianCustomCD |
| 11:14.08 | orl | but as it's said simple-cdd should be the first thing checked, I'm checking it ! ;) |
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| 11:14.55 | eptalon | orl: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.automated-installation.html |
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| 11:15.50 | orl | eptalon: thanks |
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| 11:19.28 | Kartagis | hi |
| 11:19.49 | [TheFlash] | i think the openchrome driver problem is the only reason this laptop is considered "not linux compatible" |
| 11:19.53 | [TheFlash] | everything else works |
| 11:20.24 | [TheFlash] | are there any alternatives to openchrome? |
| 11:20.30 | orl | eptalon: it seems to advice to use Simple-CDD |
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| 11:20.38 | Kartagis | when I edit /etc/network/interfaces to make an alias to eth0 by the name eth0:1 and restart networking, I can't ping anywhere |
| 11:20.41 | Kartagis | why? |
| 11:20.47 | orl | at least for non-expert users like me |
| 11:21.58 | pc_magas | Hello I have a Direcotry named Downloads and I want to allow to apache2 to serve it to my Browser. I wanted by typing http://<adress>/folder to have access to is |
| 11:22.00 | pc_magas | ti* |
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| 11:22.13 | pc_magas | like kow apache server the phpmyadmin |
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| 11:22.52 | Kartagis | pc_magas: you need a virtual host |
| 11:23.14 | pc_magas | U tried to set up the corrent vhost file but I fialed |
| 11:23.23 | Kartagis | you might want to join #httpd for further info |
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| 11:33.25 | zophy | today is the 237'th anniversary of the US Marine Corp. |
| 11:33.46 | ectospasm | Semper Fidelis! |
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| 11:34.31 | nachos | Hi, Should i be using samba4 or the previous version on wheezy? |
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| 11:36.37 | ectospasm | nachos: I recommend using the one that has all the features you require. |
| 11:36.48 | ectospasm | ...then go with the one that's more stable |
| 11:36.55 | nachos | haha |
| 11:37.00 | nachos | sure. that's sftp then. |
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| 12:15.31 | SiDyo | hi I just installed debian wheezy and im trying to find my duid |
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| 12:16.04 | SiDyo | only place i seems to find it is from lease file... and it change? |
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| 12:17.57 | jelly-home | what is a duid |
| 12:18.03 | ectospasm | yeah |
| 12:18.05 | ectospasm | ? |
| 12:18.43 | SiDyo | its like the mac adress for ipv4... dhcp server give you an adress from your mac |
| 12:18.53 | SiDyo | duid is the same for ipv6 |
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| 12:21.00 | tremon | not sure the debian installer even generates a duid |
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| 12:21.17 | tremon | I'd think it will be generated by the dhcp6 client package you install |
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| 12:24.19 | att | Hello, anyone can help how to change my motd for dinamic one under Squezee? |
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| 12:27.12 | ectospasm | att: try /etc/motd.tail |
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| 12:28.43 | att | ectospasm: just edit directly? |
| 12:29.02 | h32Lg | hi |
| 12:29.24 | h32Lg | can someone help me to fix my apt problem http://pastebin.com/gUJwZg0e ? |
| 12:30.20 | h32Lg | moving the directory /etc/php5/conf.d to /etc/php5/conf.d.bak and re-trying it wont help. it also wont help to execute apt-get install -f |
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| 12:32.29 | tremon | h32Lg: please paste ls -l /etc/php5/conf.d and apt-cache policy php5-common |
| 12:32.45 | tremon | hmm, never mind the apt-cache policy, version is already shown |
| 12:33.09 | tremon | you're mixing distributions |
| 12:34.14 | h32Lg | tremon, http://pastebin.com/DNY0RcFw |
| 12:35.17 | h32Lg | but it worked before :/ in my apt/sources.list i use squeeze and sid because for packages which are not available on the other distribution ;( |
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| 12:35.40 | gianpierre | ciao |
| 12:35.43 | gianpierre | !list |
| 12:35.43 | dpkg | gianpierre: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 12:36.38 | h32Lg | the problem is - how to fix it? :) |
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| 12:37.19 | tremon | I don't know. the postinst script complains about a pdo symlink that doesn't even appear to be there |
| 12:37.28 | tremon | !frankendebian |
| 12:37.28 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince #linux to help. |
| 12:37.40 | tremon | you may try uninstalling the pdo module |
| 12:38.11 | tremon | (if that is a separate package) |
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| 12:39.06 | tremon | or mv /etc/php5/conf.d/*pdo* /tmp && dpkg --configure php5-common |
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| 12:41.41 | killfill | hi |
| 12:41.51 | h32Lg | ok i give it a try tremon |
| 12:42.33 | killfill | i have a server setup wich is having its ip via dhcp. the dhcpserver is sending the hostname, and debian is seting up /etc/hostname based on that info. how do i make debian ignore the hostname that sending the dhcp server? |
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| 12:43.15 | invariant | How can I I press on a button in a wine application from the command line? There is xdotool, but that doesn't tell me whether the command was accepted by the application. |
| 12:44.10 | h32Lg | thank you tremon :) |
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| 12:46.48 | ws2k3 | where are the mysql files located in debian ? |
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| 12:48.17 | ectospasm | killfill: should be overridden in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 12:52.14 | killfill | ectospasm ok.. i just removed the hostname dhcp hook file.. :) |
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| 13:02.59 | ectospasm | killfill: that would work too... I wasn't aware that you had control of the DHCP server (-; |
| 13:03.29 | killfill | oh.. from the client i mean.. :) |
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| 13:08.13 | Daemonfool | hi all. i'm a newbie and i installed debian squeeze from 1 cd. it runs ok but there aren't any program to use the wifi, so i can't connect to internet. how can i download some software for it? |
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| 13:09.45 | engla | Daemonfool: all basic parts should be on the first cd, except if you require firmware for the driver |
| 13:10.06 | babilen | Daemonfool: yeah, that is a very common problem and essentially renders CD1 unusable for users like you. You *either* need DVD1 or configure your internet connection during the installation or now. |
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| 13:10.29 | babilen | engla: network-manager-gnome is *not* on CD1 (squeeze) which is a constant pain in the arse and just ... |
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| 13:10.45 | rooster_rus | Yep. That was the reason debian wasn't my first GNU/Linux distro |
| 13:10.54 | Daemonfool | engla:babilen: oh ok thank you |
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| 13:11.29 | babilen | Daemonfool: I would recommend to configure your network connection manually right now in /etc/network/interfaces as explained in http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant |
| 13:11.55 | babilen | Daemonfool: What kind of network card do you have? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) |
| 13:11.58 | engla | babilen: agreed |
| 13:12.08 | babilen | Daemonfool: Well, wireless adaptor that is :) |
| 13:12.20 | Daemonfool | yes |
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| 13:13.20 | babilen | Daemonfool: Sorry for the peskiness that is your current situation. Can you, by chance, connect via ethernet? |
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| 13:14.29 | Daemonfool | babilen: no i can't |
| 13:14.53 | babilen | Daemonfool: Ok, on what kind of hardware are you installing and what is your wireless adaptor (lspci -nn ; grep -i network) |
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| 13:15.51 | Daemonfool | babilen: i have a notebook with amd64 and i use an external wireless card with antenna, don't know specific information. sorry |
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| 13:15.59 | engla | some vocal folks love their system so much that one is basically not allowed to talk about network-manager... surely cd1 lacking it is superior technical design |
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| 13:16.27 | babilen | Daemonfool: Ok, that makes it a bit tricky to give specific advice. Unfortunately I have to go now and can't talk you through this for a very long time. |
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| 13:17.34 | babilen | Daemonfool: But to be honest: I would recommend to download the kmuto installer which comes with a newer kernel (support for newer hardware), firmware (non-free binary blobs that are needed by your hardware) and it supports wifi configuration during the installation. You can download it from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ .. |
| 13:17.35 | Daemonfool | babilen:no problem, i'am looking for an offline installation of one software. can i download something with all its dependency from windows? |
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| 13:18.42 | babilen | Daemonfool: An alternative would be to to get your wireless card running (which really depends on the hardware you have), install needed packages (firmware mostly) and configure your network as detailed on the wiki earlier. |
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| 13:19.10 | schreber | how do I add a sound indicator (the little speaker so I can easily control the volume) to the panel? I don't see an option when looking under panel > panel preferences. |
| 13:19.40 | babilen | Daemonfool: Sorry, have to go. Others in here can probably help and you might just want to work on getting your wifi connection working right now without reinstalling. (not hard, but probably nothing you can do on your own right now) |
| 13:20.01 | Daemonfool | babilen: ok thank you! |
| 13:21.02 | babilen | Daemonfool: It is hard to give you detailed instructions without knowing your hardware. |
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| 13:22.16 | Daemonfool | babilen: no problem. i try to do what you wrote. in case i can't i will reinstall the os configuring the network while the installation |
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| 13:34.12 | k4l4shn1k0v | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.21 | k4l4shn1k0v | ups |
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| 13:43.00 | zophy | we need to change the Constitution so that Obama can be elected president for life |
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| 13:43.47 | zophy | i wonder if the Obama's use Debian |
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| 13:44.10 | nachos | Hi debs and peeps. |
| 13:44.22 | nachos | is jessie a person? |
| 13:44.38 | zophy | is there a nice email advert for Debian that we can shoot off to the WhiteHouse ? |
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| 13:45.06 | engla | I don't think they are interested |
| 13:46.14 | neglesaks | they wont be interested, as there isnt as much money in FOSS, as there is in Proprietary, heavily patented software. ANs as such, there is less political incentive to promote it. |
| 13:47.23 | zophy | but... Obama is smart.. |
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| 13:50.03 | zophy | i just memorized the internet in multiple languages |
| 13:50.22 | zophy | it's nice having a brain the size of a planet |
| 13:50.42 | gnarface | zophy: you forget who employs the president |
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| 13:51.08 | gnarface | it sure ain't a non-profit like debian |
| 13:51.24 | boudiccas | zophy, you're off-topic for a support channel, please take it to #debian-offtopic, thankyou |
| 13:51.26 | gnarface | don't think for a second his paycheck is magically generated from voting ballots or something |
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| 13:54.19 | Kartagis | when I edit /etc/network/interfaces to make an alias to eth0 by the name eth0:1 and restart networking, I can't ping anywhere. why? if eth0:1 is down, I can ping, otherwise I can't |
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| 13:55.55 | ChrisH | Kartagis: can you pastebin the interface file, ifconfig -a and the output from ping $externalHostName on paste.debian.org? |
| 13:56.59 | ChrisH | might be paste.debian.net |
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| 13:58.45 | Kartagis | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/208031/ |
| 14:00.23 | ChrisH | Kartagis: ping $externalHostName is missing |
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| 14:01.28 | ChrisH | Kartagis: ping localIP ; ping external IP and ping externalname is what I would prefer to see |
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| 14:03.49 | tremon | are there any alternatives to webmin for local user management? the dpkg factoid only lists hosting panels |
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| 14:06.03 | ChrisH | tremon: how many users do you need to handle? |
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| 14:08.02 | tremon | about five... I'm building a nas for my family |
| 14:08.25 | tremon | I can remotely manage it, but I don't want them to need me for basic administration |
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| 14:11.01 | ChrisH | I created my familiy user accounts once several years ago and what basic admin do you expect to happen? |
| 14:12.01 | tremon | mainly, password management and shutting it down nicely :) |
| 14:13.13 | ChrisH | Do you expect your familiy to change the PW on a regular base? |
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| 14:13.47 | tremon | no, not regularly. I'm pretty certain they'd be okay with a static setup |
| 14:14.24 | Kartagis | ChrisH: it pings neitjer |
| 14:14.29 | Kartagis | neither* |
| 14:14.29 | tremon | I'm just curious about what's out there |
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| 14:15.08 | nachos | samba, worst protocol ever. thanks to the companies that can't even get a implementation right ( not blaming the open source project ) |
| 14:15.17 | nachos | I've never had any luck with it, something always goes wrong. |
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| 14:16.12 | ChrisH | Kartagis: I did not expected it to ping. I am interested in the error messages! |
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| 14:18.03 | Kartagis | ChrisH: ping: unknown host $externalName |
| 14:20.40 | rizlah | nachos: that's what happens when you try to integrate with doze. |
| 14:20.45 | rizlah | sadly |
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| 14:22.23 | nachos | yup rizlah |
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| 14:28.50 | Kartagis | ChrisH: ? |
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| 14:32.19 | nachos | peices out |
| 14:32.56 | ChrisH | Kartagis: I did ask for 3 things and only got one. incomplete information, no suggestion possible |
| 14:34.34 | Kartagis | ChrisH: --- 173.194.35.131 ping statistics --- |
| 14:34.34 | Kartagis | 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4030ms <---with $externalIP,ping: unknown host with $externalName |
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| 14:37.22 | Kartagis | ChrisH: I'd already given you the ifconfig -a output |
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| 14:41.57 | crypticmofo | omg my mouse is killing me |
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| 14:42.25 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, then die quietly please! |
| 14:42.38 | crypticmofo | lol .. one sec im typing |
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| 14:43.33 | useless-eater | how to turn on num lock on boot? bios sais it should be on, but linux turns it off somewhere. |
| 14:43.54 | crypticmofo | yesterday never really got an answer on this .. i have a dell studio running debian squeeze .. right after a fresh install i had issues with my left click when it booted to gnome .. i was like oh well im not going to use gnome im going to use i3-wm .. but that didn't help .. at this point modprobe -r pmouse ; modprobe pmouse does nothing .. a reboot gets my touchedpad / trackpad working but it freezes when it |
| 14:43.55 | crypticmofo | wants to .. basically i can't left click on anything .. any ideas ? |
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| 14:44.40 | waqs | Hello! Anybody here have a Pengpod? |
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| 14:45.03 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, got a direrent mouse you can try? |
| 14:45.20 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: its a trackpad |
| 14:45.21 | boudiccas | different |
| 14:45.33 | Kartagis | ChrisH: ? |
| 14:45.43 | crypticmofo | if i plugged a usb mouse in i won't have room on this desktop |
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| 14:45.44 | boudiccas | plug a mouse in tehn and see if that works |
| 14:45.47 | crypticmofo | can i file a bug ? |
| 14:45.57 | crypticmofo | i don't have another mouse boudiccas |
| 14:46.04 | boudiccas | yes, but what against? :) |
| 14:46.30 | crypticmofo | that my trackpad works fine on other distros but not on squeeze .. i've never had this issue |
| 14:47.12 | boudiccas | as you're running squeeze its unlikely to be fixed, all efforts are goign tgetting wheezy 'stable' and out the door |
| 14:47.13 | ChrisH | Kartagis: was way from keyboad. let me read |
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| 14:48.06 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, you have to file the bug against some programme, you cant just file it against a release, Debian bug tracking doesn't work like that |
| 14:48.07 | crypticmofo | oh |
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| 14:48.42 | crypticmofo | well if i can't left click on anything with my mouse and a reboot helps but it happens randomly that muse be synaptics right ? |
| 14:48.54 | crypticmofo | happend after a fresh or a brand new install |
| 14:49.19 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: i looked thru bugs.debian.org and didn't find anything about what im having issues with |
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| 14:50.03 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, no idea, i dont use synaptics and no nothing about it. you could investigate upgrading to wheezy which may fix your problem, and when upgraded you could join #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and get their help in fixing the problem |
| 14:50.20 | crypticmofo | ok |
| 14:50.26 | crypticmofo | im down to update to wheezy |
| 14:50.35 | ChrisH | Kartagis: OK. its not a DNS issue. you cannt even ping an IP if eth0:1 is up. ifconfig -a output looks fine. Can you ping both IPs eth0 and eth0:1 if eth0:1 is up? |
| 14:50.52 | boudiccas | its not an 'update' to wheezy , its an 'upgrade' |
| 14:51.16 | Kartagis | ChrisH: from outside? |
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| 14:51.33 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: since im new aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
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| 14:52.36 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, you'd have far more success usiung apt-get dist-upgrade, after you've changed your sources.list and doen apt-get update |
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| 14:53.22 | crypticmofo | isn't aptitude just a front for apt-get ? |
| 14:53.23 | ChrisH | Kartagis: first test from inside |
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| 14:54.12 | Kartagis | ChrisH: pinging eth0:1's IP from outside gives me Destination Host Unreachable |
| 14:54.13 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, both programmes do the same thing slightly differently, and i believe you'll be more effective doing a dist-upgrade with apt-get |
| 14:54.53 | Kartagis | ChrisH: but the funny thing is, my dedicated server returns the request |
| 14:55.08 | Kartagis | s/returns/replies/ |
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| 14:55.13 | crypticmofo | im assuming i need wheezy in my sources.list ? |
| 14:55.40 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, yes, thats what i said, change your sources.list and update |
| 14:56.54 | crypticmofo | i need help with it |
| 14:56.59 | crypticmofo | is there a bot command in here to help |
| 14:57.20 | boudiccas | !dpkg squeeze -> wheezy |
| 14:57.48 | boudiccas | !judd squeeze -> wheezy |
| 14:57.49 | dpkg | boudiccas, you probably want to address that to judd, not to me. (Hint: leave off the ! in your command -- that's there to grab my attention not judd's) |
| 14:58.04 | boudiccas | judd squeeze -> wheezy |
| 14:58.13 | ChrisH | Kartagis: are these external reachable IPs? Can you ping the eth0:1 IP from the system itself? |
| 14:58.31 | boudiccas | judd squeeze->wheezy |
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| 14:58.42 | boudiccas | bollocks to it |
| 14:59.06 | Kartagis | ChrisH: yes and yes |
| 14:59.10 | tremon | !squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:59.10 | boudiccas | crpticpaste your sources.list to dpaste please, and i'll help you |
| 14:59.36 | crypticmofo | ok don't laugh i just started lol its probably ugly |
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| 15:00.20 | boudiccas | nothing to laugh at, nothing to see, dont know where it is |
| 15:00.22 | crypticmofo | is dpaste command line ? |
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| 15:00.35 | boudiccas | no, its a web site |
| 15:00.55 | crypticmofo | oh crap i can't left click |
| 15:00.58 | crypticmofo | one sec if you don't mind |
| 15:01.07 | crypticmofo | i have another way |
| 15:01.20 | jhutchins_wk | There's a console mouse daemon called gpm. |
| 15:01.43 | crypticmofo | yes bare with e |
| 15:01.47 | crypticmofo | s/e/me/ |
| 15:01.48 | ChrisH | Kartagis: 1. Could there be a Firewall in place on your system? 2. If the IP is officially assigend to you, whois suggests thats a german hoster your system is located at. Could it be their switch/router refusing multiple IPs? 3. Network Manager in place and mixing all up? |
| 15:02.48 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: http://sprunge.us/EfFd |
| 15:03.10 | crypticmofo | did that work ? |
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| 15:04.38 | schreber | how do I add a sound indicator (the little speaker so I can easily control the volume) to the panel? I don't see an option when looking under panel > panel preferences. |
| 15:04.45 | crypticmofo | if that fails try this http://sprunge.us/VLCO |
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| 15:05.01 | crypticmofo | i have to restart one sec .. this mouse is pissing me off |
| 15:05.06 | Kartagis | ChrisH: 1- I have just checked iptables -L, no rules. 2- yes, the IP was officially assigned to me. there are multiple VPS's and they all use multiple IP's. 3- ps x | grep -i network returns nothing |
| 15:06.15 | crypticmofo | ok im back |
| 15:06.20 | jhutchins_wk | schreber: Kinda depends on which desltop you use. |
| 15:06.32 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, that sprunge site is useless, i got nothing in iceweasel! try paste.debian.net or dpaste |
| 15:06.39 | jhutchins_wk | crypticmofo: That paste opens as a text documment with two dashes for me. |
| 15:06.41 | schreber | jhutchins_wk, xfce |
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| 15:06.55 | tremon | crypticmofo: you can use xinput set-button-map to reassign button functions, at the very least you can use a different button for left mouse click |
| 15:06.58 | crypticmofo | jhutchins_wk: boudiccas: yes my mouse was acting up |
| 15:07.05 | crypticmofo | http://sprunge.us/VLCO |
| 15:07.51 | boudiccas | thats better. |
| 15:08.07 | crypticmofo | its crap huh ? |
| 15:08.43 | boudiccas | you might have probelms upgrading with your backports, although i doubt it, but defiently with your deb-multimedia stuff. if you can uninstall them it will make life easier |
| 15:09.20 | crypticmofo | so what do i do i just want to fix it |
| 15:09.26 | crypticmofo | reember this is only a 2 day install |
| 15:09.40 | ChrisH | Kartagis: check the routing table (netstat -rn ; netstat -rnv ) thats currently my last idea. |
| 15:09.41 | boudiccas | uninstall anything you got from deb-multimedia |
| 15:09.41 | jhutchins_wk | crypticmofo: What are you trying to "fix"? |
| 15:09.51 | jhutchins_wk | Why? |
| 15:10.08 | boudiccas | because that will screw up an upgrade to wheezy |
| 15:10.08 | jhutchins_wk | dmm is just fine. |
| 15:10.33 | jhutchins_wk | Not if you upgrade the dmm packages as well. |
| 15:10.53 | boudiccas | right, i'm dubious, we'll see |
| 15:11.21 | jhutchins_wk | Christien single-handedly kept debian a viable desktop option for years, he's due more respect. |
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| 15:12.09 | boudiccas | comment out all mozilla, deb-multimedia and updates-main |
| 15:12.22 | boudiccas | then change every 'squeeze' to 'wheezy' |
| 15:12.30 | boudiccas | then apt0get update |
| 15:12.41 | jhutchins_wk | On the other hand, if you keep dmm and update it to wheezy, the dmm packages will upgrade instead of breaking. |
| 15:13.49 | jhutchins_wk | boudiccas: Doing what you suggest is exactly where people are encountering problems with upgrades. |
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| 15:14.14 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk, okay, we'll see |
| 15:14.18 | Kartagis | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/208045/ |
| 15:14.50 | jhutchins_wk | I think that's the debian dev's main complaint is that dmm packages don't upgrade smoothly to standard debian packages. |
| 15:15.13 | ChrisH | Kartagis: is eth0:1 active now? I can ping the eth0 IP from outside currently |
| 15:15.30 | Kartagis | yes it's active |
| 15:15.42 | Kartagis | ChrisH: what IP is replying? |
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| 15:15.59 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk, just to clarify, are you saying that this 'deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free' shpuld just have squeeze replaced with wheezy and then upgraded that w2ay? |
| 15:16.33 | ChrisH | Kartagis: .23 answers .24 not |
| 15:17.15 | boudiccas | jhutchins_wk, or should it be commented out like i've been saying? |
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| 15:19.26 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, dont start dioing any upgrades yet, lets get some clarity about deb-multimedia upgrading |
| 15:19.37 | crypticmofo | ok coo |
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| 15:22.07 | boudiccas | !wheezy |
| 15:22.07 | dpkg | The release following squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie) and will be Debian 7.0. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Ask me about <testing>, <freeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy #debian-next on irc.debian.org. |
| 15:22.17 | Kartagis | ChrisH: is my routing table b0rked? |
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| 15:25.50 | ChrisH | Kartagis: I cant see an error... can you tcpdump while pinging the .24? Do you see the ICMP Packets coming in? |
| 15:26.44 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, okay, lets try,leaving deb-multimedia uncommented, just mozilla and updates-main commented out, then all other 'squeeze' replaced with 'wheezy. then please paste sources.list agin for checking |
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| 15:30.55 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, i think you'd better comment out the backports repos too as they wont be viable in whezy as theres nothing backported to it yet |
| 15:31.12 | boudiccas | wheezy |
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| 15:31.33 | crypticmofo | ok |
| 15:31.33 | anoob | how do i get 3d graphics working in Debian Sid? |
| 15:32.39 | crypticmofo | tr:qemon: useless-eater |
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| 15:32.49 | crypticmofo | ugh my mouse keeps switching to this window |
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| 15:33.35 | ChrisH | Wheezy, KDE4: what do I need to have installed to be switch on, tap on the touchpad reacts as mouse click. I remember it should be in KDE Systemsettings, but I cannot find it. looks like some pockage is missing. |
| 15:33.40 | nkuttler | anoob: you install a driver for your card |
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| 15:36.36 | anoob | which driver nkuttler? http://pastebin.com/SkNcLMjk |
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| 15:36.54 | anoob | nkuttler, open source ones should run 3d graphics? |
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| 15:39.15 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: http://sprunge.us/QeGD |
| 15:40.58 | shadow_fox | can i install yahoo messenger on squeeze ? |
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| 15:41.44 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, okay, that loks fine. apt-get update please. tehn if you dont see 'squeeze' in any of its output, then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:41.56 | crypticmofo | ok |
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| 15:43.08 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: i see wheezy in apt-get update |
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| 15:43.36 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, /all/ wheezy? |
| 15:43.38 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: it done |
| 15:44.09 | mtn | shadow_fox: pidgin will do the job |
| 15:44.34 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: http://sprunge.us/OPVG |
| 15:44.51 | shadow_fox | mtn: yeah but i need to get into the chat rooms .. i cant do with pidgin i guess |
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| 15:45.33 | mtn | shadow_fox: you can try it with wine, but I don't know if it works or not |
| 15:45.55 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, where did linux.dropbox.come from? because thats still at squeeze |
| 15:46.08 | shadow_fox | mtn: there is nothing for debian |
| 15:46.09 | crypticmofo | i can remove dropbox |
| 15:46.09 | shadow_fox | ? |
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| 15:46.16 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: dropbox was a .deb file |
| 15:46.40 | mtn | shadow_fox: wine runs windows programs |
| 15:46.44 | boudiccas | okay, remove, update, and paste poutput again please |
| 15:46.57 | shadow_fox | mtn: dont want to install wine... |
| 15:47.04 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: remove update ? |
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| 15:47.38 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, please read what i said. remove, update .... see the comma? two seperate commands |
| 15:48.32 | crypticmofo | ok so apt-get remove and then apt-get update ? |
| 15:48.44 | boudiccas | yes |
| 15:48.57 | crypticmofo | you want me to remove dropbox or just run teh command apt-get remove ? |
| 15:49.14 | boudiccas | get rid of dropbox |
| 15:49.18 | crypticmofo | ok |
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| 15:51.10 | awc737 | wow debian is loading a gnasty gray jumbled screen |
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| 15:52.13 | mmnicolas | awc737: where is the context ? did you explain it on another channel ?! |
| 15:52.25 | awc737 | what other channel? |
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| 15:52.35 | mmnicolas | I don't know, not this one apparently |
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| 15:52.39 | mtn | guesses that is a "no" |
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| 15:52.55 | awc737 | its just a fresh wheezy install. seems graphics is messed up or something |
| 15:53.06 | awc737 | just boots an impossible to decipher screen (after grub selection) |
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| 15:53.38 | awc737 | how do I boot command line only |
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| 15:54.02 | tremon | awc737: what's your video card? |
| 15:54.03 | mmnicolas | now we know it occurs during boot, what about the graphics hardware ? |
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| 15:54.57 | awc737 | it's this little guy: http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=Barebone&U=en-us0000108 |
| 15:55.06 | awc737 | AMD Radeon HD 6310 |
| 15:55.39 | mmnicolas | append radeon.modeset=0 to your kernel boot parameters |
| 15:55.49 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: for some reason dropbox keeps showing in apt-get update .. even though its not in my sources.list |
| 15:55.52 | tremon | argh. try booting with radeon.modeset=0, then installing firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 15:56.09 | tremon | crypticmofo: check sources.list.d |
| 15:56.14 | crypticmofo | hmm |
| 15:56.22 | awc737 | oh |
| 15:56.23 | awc737 | ok |
| 15:56.46 | crypticmofo | its in there tremon |
| 15:56.52 | crypticmofo | rm it ? |
| 15:57.00 | tremon | or comment it |
| 15:57.04 | crypticmofo | ok |
| 15:57.05 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, i suspected that. look in /etc/apt/ and all the files there for any reference to dropbox. when you find it comment it out, and then apt-get update again and it should be gone. |
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| 15:57.38 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: its gone |
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| 15:57.51 | crypticmofo | i uncommented it out from sources.list.d |
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| 15:58.30 | boudiccas | crypticmofo, good, all squeeze gone? if so then start 'at-get dist-upgrade- and let the new packages come onto your machine. it might take some time so just wait it out |
| 15:58.30 | crypticmofo | boudiccas: we doing a dist-upgrade now ? |
| 15:58.36 | tremon | awc737: you will need to add the non-free section by editing /etc/apt/sources.list, I don't think it's listed by default |
| 15:58.37 | crypticmofo | yes all squeeze is gone |
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| 15:58.39 | awc737 | thank you mmnicolas, tremon, i see gnome now |
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| 15:58.53 | tremon | ah good, nvm then :) |
| 15:58.54 | crypticmofo | let me connect to ethernet for this |
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| 15:59.07 | awc737 | well I will still need to add it tremon |
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| 15:59.18 | cnythnk | hey im not too good at monitoring break in attempts etc, but i find this kinda odd, today it seems like fail2ban did ban 103 users |
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| 15:59.30 | esing | Hello |
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| 15:59.37 | cnythnk | and i keep getting this within my auth.log: Nov 10 16:54:42 cnythnkWeb sshd[12698]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for hosted-by.burratino.net [94.242.205.254] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! |
| 16:00.00 | tremon | ah, you've now booted with modeset=0 and X starts? that's a pleasant surprise, I would have expected it not to work at all (drop you to a text console) |
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| 16:00.19 | Kartagis | ChrisH: ommuse.ssh > 46.196.57.29.34225: Flags [P.], seq 2474420574:2474420766, ack 415040205, win 168, options [nop,nop,TS val 69208184 ecr 21439792], length 192 |
| 16:00.21 | tremon | keep in mind that you have /no/ 3d acceleration with modeset=0 |
| 16:00.32 | mmnicolas | tremon: why so ? once there was a time where modesetting didn't exist at all |
| 16:00.33 | esing | Is there a way to make debian produce a sound for each new line? |
| 16:00.51 | mmnicolas | and we were using X |
| 16:01.04 | ChrisH | Kartagis: thats a complete different IP!?! |
| 16:01.16 | mmnicolas | esing: I really need to ask, why ?! |
| 16:01.22 | tremon | mmnicolas: non-kms is more or less deprecated on linux, they are removing those code paths in order to clean up the drivers |
| 16:01.54 | esing | mmnicolas I install several things in a row on a new server and I don't like to wait or look everytime it is finished |
| 16:01.55 | Kartagis | ChrisH: that's my IP |
| 16:02.08 | Kartagis | I was pinging from my IP |
| 16:02.16 | mmnicolas | tremon: really ? I see more problems with it than anything, I've made a habit of adding that boot param to every live disc I make because of that |
| 16:02.19 | tremon | cnythnk: is that your own address? |
| 16:02.26 | cnythnk | no |
| 16:02.33 | mmnicolas | still using squeeze though |
| 16:02.48 | cnythnk | tremon: nope |
| 16:02.59 | esing | I hear now a small bing |
| 16:03.04 | awc737 | yeah tremon it did load gnome |
| 16:03.07 | esing | But I want a very loud sound |
| 16:03.31 | awc737 | now I'm adding non-free... should I just add contrib non-free after wheezy main on each source? |
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| 16:03.38 | tremon | cnythnk: well, it's likely a misconfiguration on the other end, not a targeted attack |
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| 16:03.41 | tremon | but both are possible |
| 16:03.54 | mtn | esing: get big speakers and turn the volume way up |
| 16:04.23 | mmnicolas | esing: oh sure, just look up your terminal setting, it's a common feature called "terminal bell", in gnome-terminal this is managed by the gnome sound theme |
| 16:04.28 | cnythnk | tremon: probably but what caught my eye was that fail2ban banned 103 users today only, where the highest use to be at max 20, but an average of 4-5 bans per day |
| 16:04.55 | tremon | cnythnk: basically, what sshd does on every connection is to do both a forward and reverse query on the connecting client, and log a warning if they don't match |
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| 16:05.02 | mmnicolas | esing: it's not for every newline, more for "activity" which would have pretty much the same effect |
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| 16:05.26 | tremon | many ISPs do not care about the correctness of their reverse mappings, so this happens more often than not |
| 16:05.49 | esing | mmnicolas Is it possible to give it a 10 sec arbitary soundfile to play if there activity? |
| 16:05.55 | esing | +is |
| 16:06.19 | awc737 | tremon, mmnicolas, once I add non-free, update and upgrade, should that be enough to fix my radeon.modeset |
| 16:06.48 | mmnicolas | esing: if it's just to play after a command has finished you can just ; sleep 10 ; play sound.wav |
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| 16:07.02 | awc737 | oh and it's booting gnome classic, not full gnome |
| 16:07.22 | mmnicolas | awc737: no, you need to get an actual package, still may not work |
| 16:07.51 | mmnicolas | this means you don't have any hardware acceleration at all |
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| 16:08.12 | esing | mmnicolas I don't want to enter each time sleep 10 it should do it in general |
| 16:09.24 | mmnicolas | you can alias it, but if you want it permanent you might be able to embed it in PS1 |
| 16:09.26 | awc737 | how do I completely remove gnome and all dependencies? |
| 16:09.34 | awc737 | this is a web server, I'm not sure why I checked desktop |
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| 16:09.40 | tremon | awc737: you need to explicitly install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 16:09.47 | Maikel | apt-get --purge remove gnome* |
| 16:09.48 | Maikel | ? |
| 16:09.49 | nkuttler | !tell awc737 about remove gnome |
| 16:10.25 | awc737 | ok installing firmware linux nonfree |
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| 16:12.20 | esing | mmnicolas Where is PS1 ? |
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| 16:12.40 | esing | mmnicolas Can I try this? http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Visual-Bell.html |
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| 16:13.08 | tremon | esing: echo $PS1 |
| 16:13.38 | ChrisH | Kartagis: 46.196.57.29 is not your local IP and this is not ICMP but a TCP based ssh session. |
| 16:15.28 | awc737 | thanks guys everything is fine now. Wheezy is so slick. once it gets the kinks out I can't imagine why anyone would choose Ubuntu over it |
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| 16:15.47 | fnmueller | does not matter |
| 16:16.11 | awc737 | it feels way more stable than ubu or mint anyway |
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| 16:17.43 | mmnicolas | esing: that looks pretty cool, should still work fine even though its more than a decade old, theses things are immortal |
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| 16:18.35 | [TheFlash] | hi, i'm having a problem with the openchrome driver |
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| 16:18.47 | [TheFlash] | on a Fujitsu Amilo LA1703 |
| 16:19.24 | [TheFlash] | using Debian squeeze |
| 16:19.45 | esing | mmnicolas I would also be content if console (putty) would flash if there is an activity in debian, but addingset bell-style visible to vim /etc/inputrc doesn't work |
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| 16:22.13 | esing | Iam not sure if I should add echo -e "\33[10;25]\33[11;10]" into .bashrc or .profile ? |
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| 16:22.43 | mmnicolas | esing: look at your terminal emulator settings too: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.60/htmldoc/Chapter4.html#config-bell |
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| 16:24.24 | Kartagis | esing: .bashrc |
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| 16:31.34 | mmnicolas | What field do I need to fill in my certificate to prevent this: http://i.imgur.com/IScDD.png |
| 16:32.02 | mmnicolas | "[..] which is run by (unknown)" |
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| 16:34.32 | esing | Oh, with the combination of PS1='\u@\h:\w\$\a ' and putty's settings I can play a sound files on windows when a bell occures. Should I just uncomment the line |
| 16:34.32 | esing | # PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\h:\w\$ ' |
| 16:34.32 | esing | in .bashrc to get it to work all the time? |
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| 16:35.36 | boudiccas | esing, you can /only/ have /one/ PS1 line |
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| 16:36.06 | esing | I see, so I would just put this line into .bashrc and let the other commented right: PS1='\u@\h:\w\$\a ' |
| 16:36.10 | babilen | mmnicolas: Organisation Name probably ... |
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| 16:36.52 | nemo | Hey guys, I know people had some success installing debian on earlier generations of the chromebook |
| 16:37.08 | nemo | I was wondering if anyone had a guide/review of success w/ the most recent ARM version |
| 16:37.09 | boudiccas | esing, put what you like in, you know what you're trying to achiove |
| 16:37.18 | esing | Okay |
| 16:37.23 | esing | Thanks |
| 16:37.30 | nemo | also, whether there's a particular Debian variant that can best take advantage of the Cortex A15 |
| 16:37.37 | sney | nemo, I'd ask in #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net |
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| 16:38.15 | esing | Works fine now :) |
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| 16:38.58 | seeqwell | I encrypted my hard drive. How do I undo that please? |
| 16:39.12 | sney | back up your files and reformat |
| 16:39.21 | seeqwell | oh wowwww |
| 16:39.28 | converge | Im looking for a fast window manager, is there a more modern option than fluxbox and xfce ? |
| 16:39.49 | crypticmofo | i3 |
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| 16:40.09 | crypticmofo | http://i3wm.org/ |
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| 16:40.27 | babilen | converge: there are tiling window managers such as aweseomwm, i3, dwm, ... but I wouldn't necessarily consider them to be more "modern" than fluxbox. What is "old" about fluxbox? |
| 16:40.48 | Walex | converge: usually more modern means more glitz. However if you are the sort of person who has many terminal windows in grey on black with really tiny fonts, try RatPoison or Awesome |
| 16:41.25 | converge | crypticmofo: i3 looks great |
| 16:41.59 | converge | babilen: fluxbox is awesome, but I use it from my 13 old, time to change |
| 16:42.29 | babilen | converge: If you are looking for a tiling WM make sure to take a look at awesome, xmonad and dwm. I also heard that e17 is in alpha now after 12 (?) years of development |
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| 16:42.53 | orl | eptalon: I've been reading the link you gave me, and they suggest to use simple-cdd, exactly the way I use it, and it doesn't work |
| 16:42.55 | fnmueller | one can also combine awesome und lxde.... |
| 16:43.10 | orl | eptalon: actually it's just like some packages couldn't be found |
| 16:43.11 | Devastator | babilen perhaps he wants something "modern, dynamic and innovating" as windows 8 desktop |
| 16:43.16 | fnmueller | modern remains to be relative, though |
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| 16:44.00 | converge | Devastator: i dont wanna that. modern I mean pretty, clean and smart |
| 16:44.12 | Devastator | converge lxde? |
| 16:44.23 | sney | subjective, subjective, and subjective. lxde may be worth a look, though. it's certainly fast |
| 16:44.57 | Devastator | you can always develop a new wm, if none pleases you |
| 16:45.03 | seeqwell | is epiphany browser still any good or too old with vulns. do you know? |
| 16:45.22 | fnmueller | Devastator: why not? |
| 16:45.22 | Devastator | i never liked epiphany.. |
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| 16:45.48 | seeqwell | I'm running out of choices Devastator facebook won't let me log in with chromium or google-chrome |
| 16:45.54 | babilen | converge: i3 is great ... it is a "fork" of wmii which was wonderful, but has been abandoned now. The developer of i3 unfortunately decided to *not* implement the best feature of wmii though and I will never forgive him/her for that. (I am referring to dynamic tags + workspace creation) |
| 16:45.59 | nemo | sney: thanks |
| 16:46.02 | sney | epiphany is not commonly used so you won't see much in the way of exploits targeted at it |
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| 16:46.21 | babilen | converge: I happily use awesome now, but you might dislike it if you don't know a single programming language |
| 16:46.24 | sney | seeqwell, what about iceweasel. http://mozilla.debian.net/ for the newer versions, if you're on squeeze |
| 16:46.36 | converge | babilen: I use to use wmii too, it was a very good wm |
| 16:46.42 | nemo | sney: is what I use |
| 16:46.44 | seeqwell | yes I can use others sney just not the chrome family |
| 16:46.50 | nemo | sney: wish there was a newer one for the raspberry pi |
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| 16:47.18 | Devastator | seeqwell what facebook complains when you try to login? |
| 16:47.46 | babilen | converge: It is still my favourite by far. Kris (lead dev) went a bit over the boeard with suppoert for configuration in rc, lua, python, ruby, ... and abandoned it. /me looks sad |
| 16:47.47 | sney | nemo, well if you're using debian armel there should be, but raspbian is a different story... the pi is pretty low spec anyway so you might be better off with a lightweight browser |
| 16:48.02 | babilen | converge: *board (not *beard!) |
| 16:48.11 | seeqwell | none just the blue bar across the top and everything else is dead. white page with blue bar as if im a hacker locked out |
| 16:48.18 | seeqwell | I can click settings and all that but can't do anything with it Devastator |
| 16:48.21 | babilen | converge: Either way, try the WMs we mentioned and pick whichever you like best. |
| 16:48.36 | sney | seeqwell, disable any script/ad block addons as that might be causing it |
| 16:48.38 | nemo | sney: Firefox is pretty damn memory efficient these days |
| 16:48.54 | Devastator | seeqwell you might wanna check if there are other users reporting the same in #chromium |
| 16:48.57 | seeqwell | oh i know why. I bet its a device block b/c Im encrypted now |
| 16:48.57 | nemo | sney: although regrettably the version for Raspbian is only Firefox 10 and the real memory gains were in 11 and 15 |
| 16:49.16 | nemo | sney: oh well. thanks for the channel info |
| 16:49.22 | sney | it's efficient with what it uses but it still wants to use a lot, relatively speaking |
| 16:49.34 | nemo | sney: runs ok on the Pi :) |
| 16:49.40 | nemo | sney: and I only have a first gen. 256MiB total |
| 16:50.01 | nemo | sney: hell. years ago (haven't tried it in past few years) I ran seamonkey reasonably comfortably on my old laptop. 96MiB of RAM total :) |
| 16:50.04 | rozie | nemo: backporting shouldn't be difficult |
| 16:50.18 | Devastator | for a package to go to squeeze-security, do I need to report a bug about it? |
| 16:50.19 | nemo | sney: just firing up X and XFCE4 sucked up about 50MiB |
| 16:50.33 | mmnicolas | babilen: strangely, it isn't, even with sites like facebook.com it says (unknown) |
| 16:50.33 | rozie | but don't expect good working Fx on 256 MB RAM |
| 16:50.34 | nemo | sney: Seamonkey took about another 15 at the time. I'm sure it isn't so practical to do this now :) |
| 16:50.44 | sney | it's ok you don't need to highlight me. I'm right here |
| 16:50.49 | nemo | rozie: it worked ok. |
| 16:51.05 | nemo | sney: it's a reflex for high activity channels so people know who is being talked to... |
| 16:51.22 | rozie | c'mon, I had lxde and Fx on my computer with ~380 MB RAM |
| 16:51.25 | nemo | sney: for example, now you know "it worked ok" was directed at rozie :-p |
| 16:51.32 | rozie | swapped heavily |
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| 16:51.41 | nemo | rozie: the amount of ram it consumes is dependent on the available ram on the system |
| 16:51.51 | mmnicolas | sney: your irc client is highlighting him for saying your name, not the other way arond |
| 16:51.52 | nemo | rozie: just starting up firefox these days does take about 90MiB |
| 16:52.04 | nemo | rozie: but. the Pi doesn't use much to hit the desktop |
| 16:52.06 | crypticmofo | im getting an error after a dist-upgrade |
| 16:52.08 | rozie | it *swapped* and killed the system with 3-5 tabs |
| 16:52.09 | nemo | so that still leaves plenty for browsing |
| 16:52.10 | crypticmofo | E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 16:52.14 | sney | that was me subtly suggesting that he knock it off, mmnicolas |
| 16:52.18 | nemo | rozie: do you need screenshots or something? :) |
| 16:52.26 | rozie | OK, there was flash |
| 16:52.33 | nemo | rozie: ah. that would definitely do it |
| 16:52.55 | mmnicolas | sney: that was me subtly implying your irc client should knock it off :P |
| 16:52.58 | nemo | rozie: or so would a site with a lot of javascript or just huge pages of course. but. most stuff I was browsing worked ok |
| 16:53.25 | rozie | nemo: how many tabs? |
| 16:53.30 | nemo | rozie: I mean, think about it. the amount of ram a large image sucks up.. for a browser to load it, (not considering any rendering in vram) it needs dimensions of image * 4 ram |
| 16:53.53 | nemo | rozie: I usually only browse with a few, but remember, recent firefox has switched to "lightweight" tabs, and it does that more aggressively in low memory situations |
| 16:54.13 | nemo | rozie: on my main desktop I have over a hundred tabs open, but that's just a silly habit of almost treating tabs plus tabcandy as bookmarks ;) |
| 16:54.18 | mmnicolas | sney: /set hilight_nick_matches off |
| 16:54.48 | babilen | mmnicolas: no idea then |
| 16:54.56 | sney | mmnicolas, I use that function extensively when supporting people. But I don't need it constantly blinking for some guy telling me anecdotes about the computers he's had and their memory usage. Thanks for the tip though. |
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| 16:55.07 | nemo | rozie: http://www.itworld.com/sites/default/files/figure3_browserfootprint.jpg |
| 16:55.23 | rozie | well, I don't need dozens of tabs, but 3-5 is minimum for me |
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| 16:55.54 | rozie | with 1-2 it worked OK |
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| 16:56.28 | nemo | rozie: 3 to 5 also worked alright *shrug* aaaanyway. off to dig up info on installing debian on this chromebook which has a lot more ram than that :D |
| 16:56.42 | nemo | chromeos is kinda neat, but annoyingly limited. also, I was disappointed at Chrome's performance |
| 16:56.57 | nemo | I expected it to be more heavily optimised for their new hardware platform |
| 16:57.57 | nemo | 1.7Ghz Cortex A15 ARM and it it got about 9900ms on kraken. compare that to http://m8y.org/tmp/kraken.xhtml where x86 Chrome was getting almost 4 times that |
| 16:58.11 | nemo | on a 3.3ghz core |
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| 16:58.33 | nemo | the limitation is more annoying though. sucky shell, no way to RDP reasonably... |
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| 17:03.01 | crypticmofo | anyone get my error last time |
| 17:03.11 | awc737 | is there anything like SolusVM for debian? |
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| 17:06.00 | unrar | ohaio |
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| 17:06.40 | crypticmofo | im reading a lot of fourms with my error and they advised to reinstall my os / squeeze and update to weezy from there a fresh install |
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| 17:08.17 | Uuni | guys i need help |
| 17:08.35 | Uuni | LtL: you there |
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| 17:08.53 | LtL | Uuni: yes |
| 17:09.16 | crypticmofo | litterally same issue http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=87965 |
| 17:09.36 | Uuni | LtL: how do i utilize the free space in this image |
| 17:09.38 | Uuni | http://i.imgur.com/1xOPw.png |
| 17:09.44 | Uuni | it does not let me use it |
| 17:09.57 | Uuni | i have filled the 17GB partition |
| 17:10.02 | Uuni | and now i cant download anything |
| 17:10.06 | Uuni | its been like this for DAYS |
| 17:10.18 | crypticmofo | bbs |
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| 17:11.19 | nsadmin | Uuni, can you pastebin the output of df |
| 17:11.28 | damacus | Uuni: one method is to download the gparted livecd, then you can resize the volume |
| 17:11.31 | LtL | Uuni: whats in the unknown, any idea |
| 17:11.34 | damacus | you can't resize the volume while it's mounted |
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| 17:12.04 | LtL | Uuni: nsadmin has better advice than i, i would use a big hammer. |
| 17:12.27 | nsadmin | LtL, don't go away! I wanna sammich soon! |
| 17:12.41 | LtL | nsadmin: and coffee sir? |
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| 17:12.45 | Uuni | ¯_¬ |
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| 17:12.57 | nsadmin | I just got curious over where the 120g is |
| 17:13.07 | nsadmin | it might be unpartitioned space |
| 17:13.12 | Uuni | thats what it is |
| 17:13.22 | Uuni | it wont let me create a partition though |
| 17:13.24 | nsadmin | do you use lvm? |
| 17:13.32 | nsadmin | "it"? |
| 17:13.56 | Uuni | its palimpsest im using |
| 17:13.59 | Uuni | thats what im referring to |
| 17:14.04 | Uuni | it says i dont have permission |
| 17:14.06 | Uuni | no i dont use lvm |
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| 17:14.26 | damacus | nsadmin: did you look at his screenshot? |
| 17:14.34 | damacus | it's clearly not lvm. ;) |
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| 17:14.53 | nsadmin | well I couldn't make sense of it |
| 17:15.09 | nsadmin | so... |
| 17:15.12 | damacus | Uuni: you're using MBR partitioning, and linux really doesn't like the partition map changing on a drive you're actively using for your root partition |
| 17:15.13 | nsadmin | I asked :) |
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| 17:15.16 | Uuni | do you want me to use lvm? |
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| 17:15.31 | damacus | in the future, lvm gives you more flexibility, but in the meantime there's no need |
| 17:15.37 | nsadmin | not if you don't want to... |
| 17:15.38 | Uuni | ok |
| 17:15.45 | damacus | Uuni: you need to boot off a rescue CD or a utility CD so you can modify that drive |
| 17:15.51 | damacus | ext3 on mbr doesn't support online resize |
| 17:16.09 | Uuni | alright, but when i do, what would i do? format something? |
| 17:16.13 | damacus | no. |
| 17:16.18 | damacus | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.29 | LtL | Uuni: i recommend gparted live, and fsck first on the next boot. |
| 17:17.01 | Uuni | how do i download them if my hard drive is full |
| 17:17.11 | damacus | delete shit or use another computer. |
| 17:17.29 | Uuni | argh |
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| 17:17.43 | damacus | alternatively, you can create a second partition in the free space from a debian boot cd you already have |
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| 17:17.51 | damacus | and then mount it to /mnt/storage or something |
| 17:17.55 | damacus | and move data there |
| 17:17.58 | damacus | you have options |
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| 17:18.19 | Uuni | alright |
| 17:18.22 | Uuni | i just have to find my usb |
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| 17:18.43 | damacus | curious, when you installed, why didn't you have it use the whole drive? |
| 17:19.16 | nsadmin | in your present situation you could have that 120g be an lvm physical vol, make vols and copy stuff to them... you can do this if you -really- want lvm (I use it all the time, if you never have, I'd move slowly, and ONLY if you really want to) |
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| 17:20.13 | nsadmin | final comment on lvm, with the 120g you have the opportunity to switch cleanly to it |
| 17:20.14 | Uuni | damacus, when i installed, i deleted all the data i had on my hard drive trying to make it so i could keep the data. i think i just did a bunch of random things out of frustration after that |
| 17:20.27 | LtL | Uuni: gparted live iant very big, 127 MB |
| 17:20.48 | Uuni | damacus: i deleted 300gb of files!!! |
| 17:20.57 | Uuni | and thats what that free space is |
| 17:21.13 | damacus | you deleted all the data so you could keep the data? i don't follow. |
| 17:21.31 | Uuni | damacus: i deleted all the data trying to find a way to keep the data |
| 17:21.33 | nsadmin | maybe he's saying he made errors in trying |
| 17:21.50 | damacus | brb coffee |
| 17:21.51 | nsadmin | oh I see |
| 17:21.59 | jelly-home | and now that he knows better he'll set up backups? |
| 17:22.21 | nsadmin | who knows :) it was conjecture on my part anyway |
| 17:22.37 | Uuni | i dont know how to backup things |
| 17:23.07 | nsadmin | the first step is to have something large enough to back up to |
| 17:23.28 | Uuni | so i dont have that |
| 17:23.35 | Uuni | so i should continue looking for my usb |
| 17:23.52 | nsadmin | how large is that hard drive total? |
| 17:24.11 | Uuni | 317gb most likely |
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| 17:24.26 | Uuni | 320 |
| 17:24.28 | Uuni | 320 gb |
| 17:25.34 | marsfligth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.39 | nsadmin | btw, the "not have permission to create partition" thing, is probably you not being root when you tried |
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| 17:27.57 | Uuni | nsadmin: now it just says operation failed |
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| 17:29.39 | converge | what terminal emulator do you use ? |
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| 17:33.35 | damacus | i was always partial to konsole from kde, but usually i just use rxvt |
| 17:33.37 | Uuni | i use xterm |
| 17:34.13 | damacus | (on x anyway; more often than not i'm shelled in from a mac using iTerm2 or putty on windows.) |
| 17:37.18 | awc737 | has anyone installed deb 7 netinst? |
| 17:37.22 | converge | after some years, I think aterm is still the best option |
| 17:37.57 | mtn | awc737: somebody has |
| 17:38.20 | converge | I dont have the xorg.conf file, but X is running, s it possible ? |
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| 17:38.49 | fnmueller | very |
| 17:39.10 | awc737 | I'm curious if deb 7 netinst also took an hour + |
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| 17:39.34 | mtn | awc737: depends on bandwidth and mirror,I would suppose |
| 17:40.00 | awc737 | mtn, true, but significantly longer than squeeze. is that true? |
| 17:40.00 | LtL | Uuni: so how did you manage to get your disk in that state anyway? |
| 17:40.15 | Uuni | i dont know i did a bunch of stupid stuff |
| 17:40.22 | mtn | awc737: wouldn't have any idea, but doubt it |
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| 17:41.14 | LtL | Uuni: it's probably easier to backup and reinstall |
| 17:41.32 | Uuni | LtL: can you pm me |
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| 17:41.44 | LtL | Uuni: yeah |
| 17:41.46 | jhujhiti | trying my luck here: does anyone have any experience with pmbus? i've built and loaded all of the kernel modules but it hasn't detected anything. i understand i might have to instantiate it manually on the i2c bus but i'm not sure how i would know the address and chipset. supermicro board |
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| 17:43.26 | damacus | awc737: i did note that wheezy install took somewhat longer than squeeze did |
| 17:43.43 | damacus | awc737: i havent done enough off a warmed up aptcache box to be sure though |
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| 17:44.29 | bitonic | why is "mozplugger" in stable and unstable, but not in testing and experimental? |
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| 17:45.32 | damacus | i think experimental is used at package maintainers will. sometimes presumably they're fine just using unstable |
| 17:45.44 | boudiccas | ,v mozplugger |
| 17:45.46 | judd | Package: mozplugger on i386 -- lenny: 1.10.2-2; squeeze: 1.14.1-1; sid: 1.14.5-1 |
| 17:45.46 | damacus | as for stable, unstable but no testing, maybe it got dropped for the wheezy release. |
| 17:46.09 | bitonic | mhm. so I'm on testing with an experimental firefox. what should I do to get "mozplugger"? |
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| 17:46.25 | damacus | they were about to drop zabbix from wheezy at one point because the newer version from unstable didnt make the freeze, and the other version has some possible security issues or something |
| 17:46.32 | frankko | My system is stuck at "Cleaning up temporary files" how do i proceed? |
| 17:46.42 | damacus | where you'd have to essentially in wheezy add it in from backports if i read it correctly |
| 17:46.55 | marsfligth | Please, how to start from batch or Bash a gtk application with maximized layout? |
| 17:46.59 | frankko | recovery mode does the same |
| 17:47.13 | jelly-home | frankko: how long did you wait |
| 17:47.13 | Walex | marsfligth: usually the apps must have an option to do that. |
| 17:47.45 | Walex | marsfligth: alternatively some window managers have a command line way to tell the window manager to maximize something |
| 17:47.49 | frankko | jelly: it is an ssd and i waited about 2 minutes.. should i wait for very long? The leds indicate no hdd activity |
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| 17:48.31 | Walex | frankko: SSDs can take *a very long time* deleting files especially if you have TRIM/'discard' enabled |
| 17:48.32 | damacus | frankko: is this a laptop or desktop? |
| 17:48.40 | marsfligth | Walex: In 'catfish' search tool, doesn't' exist |
| 17:48.42 | jelly-home | it'd leave it for 15 minutes just in case there really are lots of files in /tmp |
| 17:48.47 | frankko | laptop.. and it worked before i installed lightdm |
| 17:48.59 | frankko | before i had no display manager |
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| 17:49.08 | jelly-home | frankko: you might also boot from a livecd and take a look |
| 17:49.34 | frankko | no cd in this system but i have a usb stick with debian net-boot that i installed from |
| 17:49.41 | Walex | frankko: the long time especially if your filesystem is XFS, which uses TRIM on every metadata operation. |
| 17:49.49 | frankko | it is ext4 |
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| 17:50.13 | Walex | frankko: for offline work I recommend a GRML liveCD/liveUSB BTW, it is mostly Debian with a lot of good tools |
| 17:50.33 | frankko | what should i do after i have booted then? |
| 17:50.42 | Walex | frankko: strnage then, because 'ext4' cheats and no longer does 'discard' all ther time, precisely because it can take a long time. |
| 17:50.50 | damacus | mount your filesystems, and look in the tmp folders |
| 17:51.11 | damacus | but anyway, i actually think it might be hanging *after* cleaning temp folders |
| 17:51.12 | Walex | frankko: what does 'dmesg | tail -50' says? |
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| 17:51.36 | frankko | downloading the iso now.. i can not get into debian yet |
| 17:51.41 | damacus | i've seen on one of my laptops hangs when having some pcmcia (old laptop) cards inserted, or in some cases, some USB devices |
| 17:51.54 | damacus | so if you have any cards/addons connected, try booting without them connected |
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| 17:54.10 | frankko | nothing except a logitek mouse |
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| 17:57.51 | frankko | ok then now i have the iso on the usb stick |
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| 18:03.17 | frankko | All that was in the /tmp folder on the ssd was a pulseaudio file. With everything removed from the folder it still gave me the same error.. |
| 18:03.48 | frankko | can i reconfigure a package on the ssd drive from the booted usb? |
| 18:04.39 | jelly-home | sure, chroot into the mounted system |
| 18:05.16 | frankko | jelly-home: sorry that i am such a noob. What would be the proper way to do this? |
| 18:05.44 | frankko | just "chroot /mounted/drive" ? |
| 18:05.49 | jelly-home | yes |
| 18:05.52 | jelly-home | (as root) |
| 18:06.02 | frankko | oh ok.. one more reboot then i guess.. |
| 18:06.13 | frankko | You are always root with that iso you recomended |
| 18:07.05 | jelly-home | grml has a user and root |
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| 18:11.06 | frankko | jelly-home: when i try to chroot it it tells me that zsh is missing |
| 18:11.45 | jelly-home | frankko: hahah, yes, that's a silly thing (not to have zsh on your OS ;-) |
| 18:11.58 | jelly-home | frankko: chroot /path/to/wherever /bin/bash |
| 18:12.11 | frankko | aah ok how silly of me |
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| 18:12.26 | Simy | I have my grub.conf handled by gentoo, and I'm a bit confused on these options, I'm getting /dev/ram0 does not exist, what is the proper value for root with lvm? |
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| 18:17.32 | Xtreme | guys how to get output from both mic as well as speaker connection on laptop? |
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| 18:18.45 | nsadmin | Simy, (as you've found) you can have your grub controlled by whatever... you've chosen gentoo; not much to say there since I don't know gentoo. I will say however that you will need whatever boot loader you use to support what you are booting with (for example an lvm module) |
| 18:19.35 | Xtreme | anyone/. |
| 18:19.36 | Xtreme | ? |
| 18:19.55 | nsadmin | that's a function of your sound card and its chipset |
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| 18:21.11 | Simy | nsadmin I have it using an lvm module, gentoo boots, but debian has all my tools I use for work, dont have time to babysit the system to get gentoo going right now |
| 18:21.14 | Xtreme | nsadmin, so unless sound card supports we cant? |
| 18:21.18 | Simy | gentoo is just a bare boot system ATM |
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| 18:22.09 | Simy | its interesting to note that swap (which is in lvm) is loading... |
| 18:22.22 | Simy | but "home" is showing inactive when it drops me |
| 18:22.50 | nsadmin | Xtreme, yes. makes sense, no? |
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| 18:23.38 | frankko | jelly-home, YAY i am back in debian |
| 18:23.43 | nsadmin | Simy, the main thing is grub needs to get to the kernels and initrd |
| 18:23.56 | damacus | frankko: i suspect your hang occurs *after* the cleaning of temp files |
| 18:24.12 | Simy | it can get to both of those, im having trouble getting it to mount the root lvm -- named 'home' |
| 18:24.20 | damacus | which generally has to do with initializing NICs and stuff |
| 18:24.27 | damacus | i think, anyway |
| 18:24.46 | frankko | damacus, i think it was something related to lxdm.. since now it works and i just changed back to lightdm |
| 18:24.53 | nsadmin | your root is named home? I have lvs named home... but they're for mounting on /home |
| 18:25.07 | damacus | interesting |
| 18:25.11 | damacus | glad to hear it's working though |
| 18:25.23 | Simy | nsadmin argh, i think your right i got home and root mixed |
| 18:25.46 | Simy | lets see it root works better, lol |
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| 18:26.33 | nsadmin | it's just a name... you could have named your / lv "home" |
| 18:26.35 | nsadmin | AND |
| 18:26.42 | nsadmin | glad you have a separated /home |
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| 18:28.32 | Simy | Yeah its still hanging here... hmmm |
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| 18:29.22 | nsadmin | can you get into your debian? |
| 18:29.27 | Simy | not at the moment |
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| 18:29.46 | nsadmin | ok, what's your vg called? |
| 18:29.58 | Simy | D0 |
| 18:30.01 | Simy | GOT IOT |
| 18:30.10 | nsadmin | you're in your gentoo now? |
| 18:30.17 | Simy | nope, they both boot now =) |
| 18:30.29 | nsadmin | wait they do? |
| 18:30.38 | nsadmin | ok, good enuf :) |
| 18:30.42 | Simy | going mount boot, and fix grub :) |
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| 18:31.15 | nsadmin | so the grub you're running must support lvm |
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| 18:31.58 | nsadmin | do you have a separate /boot? |
| 18:32.07 | Simy | yeah |
| 18:32.20 | nsadmin | is it in an lv? |
| 18:32.26 | Simy | no... you can do that? |
| 18:32.41 | nsadmin | well, I wouldn't :) |
| 18:32.45 | Simy | lol |
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| 18:33.07 | Simy | double tested, re-rebooted into debian, changes lasted :) and still booted |
| 18:33.35 | nsadmin | you might want to write something up about your experience |
| 18:34.14 | Simy | step 1: don't overwrite a boot partition when your half asleep |
| 18:34.19 | Simy | step 2: enjoy |
| 18:34.24 | Simy | :P |
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| 18:38.39 | nsadmin | well it would be nice if each had its own /boot, and that will take some thought to manage |
| 18:39.45 | crypticmofo | ok im done with my install of debian squeeze and my mouse is working fine |
| 18:39.51 | crypticmofo | should i update to wheezy anyway |
| 18:40.04 | abrotman | that's up to you, don't you think? |
| 18:40.34 | Simy | nsadmin I do see your wisdom in that -- now, lol |
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| 18:42.17 | nsadmin | Simy, it will be easier to have a common /boot when you just consider grub |
| 18:42.37 | nsadmin | it's possible that other considerations could present a challenge |
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| 18:43.16 | abrotman | they don't really need their own /boot as long as only one manages the boot loader |
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| 18:44.04 | abyxcos | Is it normal that the 'testing' weekly build install cd can't load any kernel modules? |
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| 18:45.04 | abrotman | abyxcos: you sohuld probably be using the netinst |
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| 18:45.34 | nsadmin | abrotman, I was thinking that the differences between gentoo and debian could present challenges by both wanting to own and overwrite the same files |
| 18:46.14 | lusers | crypticmofo: I'm making plans to go back to squeeze. Just saying. :) |
| 18:46.18 | abrotman | thus why i said to have one manage the boot loader |
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| 18:46.29 | crypticmofo | lusers, what happend ? |
| 18:47.08 | nsadmin | abyxcos, a clump is built with modules in it, and they can be loaded before a / is mounted... this clump is called an initrd |
| 18:48.15 | lusers | crypticmofo: Stability? Also, Gnome 3.4 in Wheezy (3.6 upstream). I have been on wheezy long enough and decided that I want to return back. I like having less updates on my machine. |
| 18:48.18 | abyxcos | nsadmin: As far as I can tell, initrd is being loaded, the installer is just doing something dumb. |
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| 18:48.30 | nsadmin | could be |
| 18:48.31 | crypticmofo | hmm |
| 18:48.42 | abyxcos | nsadmin: "No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive." |
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| 18:48.47 | crypticmofo | lusers, i use the i3-wm so i don't use gnome |
| 18:48.47 | morteza_ipo | hi |
| 18:48.51 | crypticmofo | o_O |
| 18:48.55 | morteza_ipo | in /sys/class/tty , i can't find ttyUSB0 |
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| 18:49.04 | abrotman | lusers: might as well get used to gnome3 or find a new WM .. |
| 18:49.10 | morteza_ipo | where is usb0 device driver ? |
| 18:49.13 | nsadmin | could also be a mismatch between the kernel and the initrd |
| 18:49.20 | abyxcos | abrotman: I'm open to a link, I couldn't find a netinstall for testing/unstable. |
| 18:49.21 | abrotman | lusers: and wheezy is frozen .. it shouldn't be getting a ton of updates |
| 18:49.26 | lusers | crypticmofo: Sweet. I'm using i3 right now. Lol. Testdriving. I discovered squeeze backports got them. :) |
| 18:49.30 | abrotman | abyxcos: debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 18:49.37 | crypticmofo | hehe |
| 18:49.44 | damacus | gnome3 is a train wreck. glad it's getting kicked to the curb in jessie |
| 18:50.00 | damacus | (for default install) |
| 18:50.01 | abrotman | it's not |
| 18:50.09 | crypticmofo | im new |
| 18:50.18 | crypticmofo | does wheezy have backports or is that only squeeze ? |
| 18:50.23 | abrotman | damacus: you're a week bit misinformed |
| 18:50.36 | abrotman | crypticmofo: just squeeze for now .. wheezy will get them eventually, after release |
| 18:50.40 | abrotman | s/week/wee/ |
| 18:50.42 | lusers | abrotman: I'm well used to Gnome2.3 (when I first switched to linux). Looks excited when Gnome3 came out -- but now, not so much. I love Gnome for being friendly to new linux users though. |
| 18:51.41 | crypticmofo | wheezy has all the new pacakges right ? |
| 18:51.47 | abrotman | mostly, yes |
| 18:51.57 | nsadmin | new-er |
| 18:52.02 | abrotman | some may have only minor changes |
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| 18:52.32 | damacus | http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ |
| 18:52.41 | lusers | crypticmofo: I'll go back to squeeze and use backport for i3. No more testing things. Maybe in VM. |
| 18:52.54 | damacus | there are a lot of quotes in there from people that know better than me. |
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| 18:53.07 | damacus | my personal experience with it was that i had to do a lot in wheezy to make it friendly. |
| 18:53.08 | abrotman | damacus: about what? |
| 18:53.32 | damacus | linus's comments and then those in that article are enough to reinforce that gnome3 is not for me, nor most power users. |
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| 18:53.34 | crypticmofo | are the debian codenames really from toy story ? |
| 18:53.38 | damacus | crypticmofo: yes. |
| 18:53.48 | crypticmofo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toy_Story_characters#Wheezy |
| 18:53.50 | nsadmin | lusers, of course the reason testing is even provided is so that anyone who wants to can find(, fix) and report |
| 18:53.55 | nsadmin | problems |
| 18:54.02 | abrotman | damacus: it's a personal choice .. everyone has them .. i rather think other DE/WMs are crap .. yay, i have an opinion too |
| 18:54.17 | abrotman | damacus: and i'd invite everyone to spend a week with gnome3 before passing judgement |
| 18:54.41 | damacus | yes, congratualations |
| 18:54.46 | nsadmin | gnome3 doesn't seem to do anything |
| 18:54.51 | abyxcos | It's not a bad interface, but as soon as you want to move/configure something, life goes to hell. |
| 18:54.54 | damacus | and do note, i'm not calling you misinformed. |
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| 18:55.06 | crypticmofo | is there a cheat sheet for new people to debian ? |
| 18:55.08 | abrotman | tries to figure out where the NOC got this number from |
| 18:55.11 | crypticmofo | i know there is the debian wiki |
| 18:55.13 | abrotman | !tell crypticmofo about refcard |
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| 18:55.35 | bt6 | I added the sid source to /etc/apt/sources.list and then did apt-get upgrade, but now I want to revert back to where I was previously. I removed that line from the source and did apt-get remove but it looks like it removed a lot of other things. What can I do? |
| 18:55.50 | abrotman | bt6: are you using backtrack? |
| 18:56.04 | bt6 | abrotman: I don't think so |
| 18:56.30 | crypticmofo | aw sweet abrotman thanks .. also is there a list of command i can give to the bot so i don't have to ask a lot of questions ? |
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| 18:56.45 | abrotman | dpkg: tell crypticmofo about your factoids |
| 18:57.12 | abyxcos | For programmers/hackers/people interested in funny window managers, I highly recommend giving scrotwm (spectrewm) a try. If you like vi/vim keybindings, you should feel right at home, and the defaults are pretty sane, compared to some of the other tiling window managers that need constant tweaking. |
| 18:57.18 | nsadmin | crypticmofo, I'm curious about two things... one, what do you want to do overall with debian? 2, you're new to debian... are you also new to lin`ux? |
| 18:57.30 | abyxcos | For everyone else, if you don't like ubuntu/gnome3, give XFCE or even KDE a spin. |
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| 18:58.54 | crypticmofo | nsadmin, not really i just want a distro that works .. archlinux is what i curretnly run but i realized its just a crutch i tried debian woody way back when but got confused and i gave up on it ? 2 im not new to linux .. 3.. i try all distros to see what i really want if that takes using the distro for 4 to 6 months to gage it then so be it |
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| 19:00.12 | nsadmin | crypticmofo, so, you might be familiar with very basic commands like cat, grep, head, tail, echo, cd, mkdir? |
| 19:00.21 | crypticmofo | yes |
| 19:00.29 | rizlah | lol Gnome 3? |
| 19:00.34 | rizlah | I have lots to say about that |
| 19:00.35 | nsadmin | so really you want to know what's different |
| 19:00.42 | rizlah | Fantastic DE, really intuitive |
| 19:01.01 | crypticmofo | yes nsadmin diffrence from archlinux and debian .. i noticed also debian has more users the archlinux |
| 19:01.17 | crypticmofo | you can tell me all you want what the diff is but im more visual i need to see it / be on the system |
| 19:01.24 | crypticmofo | hence im dual booting |
| 19:01.41 | crypticmofo | virtualbox does me no justice |
| 19:01.44 | abyxcos | crypticmofo: As a former arch/gentoo user, the main difference is apt vs emerge vs pacman. |
| 19:01.48 | nsadmin | oh ok, so you're where you want to be already |
| 19:01.54 | abyxcos | crypticmofo: Visualy, there is little/no difference. |
| 19:01.55 | crypticmofo | yea |
| 19:02.02 | rizlah | GNOME3 is the best guys, really |
| 19:02.07 | crypticmofo | omg gentoo o_O |
| 19:02.13 | rizlah | I don't think I could live without it |
| 19:02.17 | abrotman | rizlah: have you heard of #debian-offtopic |
| 19:02.46 | rizlah | abrotman: I have heard of it, sure. |
| 19:02.47 | abyxcos | crypticmofo: The biggest difference *I* found is that arch/gentoo are more modular, you can pull out init and most system deamons, and replace them with near whatever you want, in debian it's a bit more standardized (not that it can't be done.) |
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| 19:02.59 | nsadmin | crypticmofo, there's oxygen outside... you can live with that |
| 19:03.00 | rizlah | abyxcos: Arch isn't really too good. |
| 19:03.01 | abrotman | !ot |
| 19:03.01 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 19:03.10 | crypticmofo | lol nsadmin |
| 19:03.13 | rizlah | Using it now. Don't think they really care about bug hunting/etc |
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| 19:03.21 | abrotman | could we get back to Debian please? |
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| 19:03.26 | crypticmofo | yes |
| 19:03.34 | rizlah | abrotman: Sure, I think Debian is superior to all. |
| 19:03.35 | morteza_ipo | anybody? |
| 19:03.39 | rizlah | Including you abrotman, even you. |
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| 19:03.51 | crypticmofo | after a dist-upgrade i reboot correct ? |
| 19:04.05 | abyxcos | rizlah: I prefer gentoo to arch. It has some strong points, but crypticmofo mentioned he was an arch user (currently/previously). |
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| 19:04.16 | rizlah | Gentoo is overkill. |
| 19:04.17 | nsadmin | if a kernel was installed, yes, reboot so you're runnign the new kernel |
| 19:04.20 | bt6 | Can anyone tell me what I need to do to reinstall default packages on squeeze? |
| 19:04.25 | rizlah | You really don't need to compile everything from scatch |
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| 19:04.41 | _Gay-Ecuador | Holaaa, Alguien Para Chat? |
| 19:04.54 | abrotman | rizlah: Please try to keep it on-topic, use #debian-offtopic for general chitchat. Thank you. |
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| 19:05.29 | nsadmin | abrotman, he was asking the other day why that happens to him a lot... |
| 19:06.09 | abyxcos | What is +q? |
| 19:06.17 | crypticmofo | i think silent |
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| 19:06.54 | damacus | s(q)uelched |
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| 19:07.07 | damacus | or quieted |
| 19:07.23 | crypticmofo | after a dist-upgrade reboot correct ? |
| 19:07.32 | nsadmin | if a kernel was installed, yes, reboot so you're runnign the new kernel |
| 19:08.07 | abyxcos | crypticmofo: The largest difference I found between debian et al was the system was more coherent, and pieced together more like the BSDs. Administrating was also the other large point. I hate apt, but overall everything acts mostly the same these days. |
| 19:08.07 | ToeTag | speaking of kernels, is there any reason to keep the old ones around? |
| 19:08.10 | nsadmin | lots of times I like to upgrade the kernel and reboot into it before the dist-upgrade |
| 19:08.12 | tharkun | _Gay-Ecuador: Este es un canal de soporte para Debian (Distribución de Linux) Si requieres soporte en español #debian-es |
| 19:08.16 | abrotman | abyxcos: please, keep it in topic |
| 19:08.31 | abrotman | tharkun: do you think he cares about Debian? |
| 19:08.55 | ToeTag | There definitely should be a gay debian channel $$$ |
| 19:09.00 | crypticmofo | lol |
| 19:09.07 | Volkswagner | Greetings, I'd really like to install SAMBA4 on Wheezy. Looking at https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_4/OS_Requirements and https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO |
| 19:09.07 | tharkun | abrotman: I'm trying to be polite. But beeing honest, no |
| 19:09.13 | nsadmin | ToeTag, if you don't know if the newer one works yet |
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| 19:09.48 | ToeTag | nsadmin: thanks a lot! I used to run squeeze and never ran into this before. Now that I'm on testing I now have 3 different kernels on grub, just not used to seeing all that |
| 19:09.49 | _Gay-Ecuador | Holaaa, Alguien Para Chat? |
| 19:10.07 | tharkun | _Gay-Ecuador: No, esto es soporte no chat general |
| 19:10.10 | ToeTag | _Gay-Ecuador: only if it's about how awesome debian is |
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| 19:10.31 | abrotman | _Gay-Ecuador: this channel is english only, and for support of Debian |
| 19:10.48 | tharkun | abrotman: Since when do you read minds? |
| 19:10.54 | ToeTag | To be fair, we probably all could be considered "gay for debian" |
| 19:10.55 | crypticmofo | ugh |
| 19:10.58 | ToeTag | At least I could :D |
| 19:11.15 | abrotman | tharkun: you're welcome to instruct him five more times about where the spanish channel is |
| 19:11.27 | tharkun | :) |
| 19:11.33 | Volkswagner | I ran the ./configure...--enable-selftest and resulted in many "not-found" and "no" results... should I be concerned? |
| 19:11.39 | tharkun | !tell _Gay-Ecuador es |
| 19:11.43 | tharkun | !tell _Gay-Ecuador about es |
| 19:11.43 | ToeTag | Hi guys, I'm here to meet some white women |
| 19:12.14 | nsadmin | Volkswagner, debian doens't have a "configure"... perhaps you're trying to build something? |
| 19:12.23 | tharkun | abrotman: the !es factoid still works ;P |
| 19:12.41 | Volkswagner | I installed what appeared to be all the prerequisits. I did a simulated aptitude install of samba4 just to see what other packages I may be missing, which resulted in over 30 packages to be installed |
| 19:12.52 | damacus | Volkswagner: you need to install the -dev packages for the libraries samba depends on |
| 19:12.53 | nsadmin | ToeTag, then the oxygen of the outside world is for you |
| 19:12.58 | jelly-home | tharkun: that doesn't point the user towards a chat channel |
| 19:13.00 | Volkswagner | nsadmin, Hi... follwing the howto recommends using git |
| 19:13.04 | ToeTag | nsadmin: haha |
| 19:13.10 | abrotman | tharkun: i suspect equally ignored |
| 19:13.20 | tharkun | agrees |
| 19:13.35 | damacus | Volkswagner: one thing you can do is apt-get build-dep samba |
| 19:13.45 | nsadmin | Volkswagner, there's a howto?! cooooool! |
| 19:13.47 | ToeTag | If I use lxde on top of debian testing, what is the preferred method to set up dual (or more) monitors that may have *different* resolutions |
| 19:13.55 | damacus | that will install the -dev packages needed to compile the current samba at least |
| 19:14.01 | damacus | which will probably be similar to samba5 |
| 19:14.02 | damacus | err |
| 19:14.03 | damacus | samba4 |
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| 19:14.09 | ToeTag | In the past I've only used the nvidia config utility or whatever is native to gnome |
| 19:14.10 | tharkun | jelly-home: There used to be an offtopic channel on oftc for #d-es Can't recall which |
| 19:14.16 | nsadmin | seriously.,.. you're not saying much about what you're doing... |
| 19:14.37 | Volkswagner | nsadmin, the how to is on the wiki but definately not for the novice :) |
| 19:14.53 | ToeTag | doesn't <tasksel> have an option for installing a samba server? |
| 19:15.28 | tharkun | Volkswagner: out of experience I can tell you that you either have al the tweaks that the distro of your choices uses for a particular program or you ditch them all and set your own ones. |
| 19:15.28 | abyxcos | On the "partition disks" step of the installer, if I pick manual, do I still get an option to set up LVM? |
| 19:15.35 | nsadmin | probably, and, if you want a samba server you can start either by running aptitude install samba or by running apt-cache search samba and pick thru the result |
| 19:15.56 | nsadmin | personally, I like apt-cache search any thing | sort | less |
| 19:15.59 | damacus | ToeTag: he wants samba4 |
| 19:16.17 | tharkun | Volkswagner: setting up samba4 has a lot of tweaks that you need to fully understand so you can have a flawless transition |
| 19:16.26 | ToeTag | damacus: noted |
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| 19:16.37 | abrotman | abyxcos: i believe so .. it's easy to try, right? :) |
| 19:16.51 | ToeTag | if all you need is samba on the machine, turnkey linux might be of interest |
| 19:17.09 | abyxcos | abrotman: No, last time I did this I got stuck in a loop trying to resive live mounted lvm partitions. |
| 19:17.40 | crypticmofo | i did a dist-upgrade and i get errors at the end it says E: unmet depedncices. Try using -f. |
| 19:17.43 | ToeTag | I think the new installer supports setting up LVM if I remember correctly, but it's in beta and sucks hard |
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| 19:18.24 | nsadmin | ToeTag: squeeze installer does too. the workflow is a little strange, but it works |
| 19:18.34 | crypticmofo | do i run apt-get dist-upgrade -f |
| 19:18.36 | Volkswagner | ToeTag, thanks. I really do like Turnkey. I'm just not a fan of webmin... I had a bad experience years back using Ubuntu. Plus this is a learning task :) |
| 19:18.51 | ToeTag | nsadmin: "expert install"? |
| 19:18.52 | crypticmofo | i can't install anything cuase it keeps saying something about depdnding |
| 19:18.55 | nsadmin | you either have to be awake while you try it or know how things work |
| 19:18.57 | nsadmin | nope |
| 19:18.58 | ToeTag | Volkswagner: yeah i hear that |
| 19:19.02 | nsadmin | regular install |
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| 19:19.15 | nsadmin | you have to add partitions for lvm pvs first |
| 19:19.20 | nsadmin | then configure lvm |
| 19:19.36 | ToeTag | nsadmin: interesting. I might have to do an install in a VM just to see this |
| 19:19.41 | crypticmofo | im running apt-get dist-upgrade -f |
| 19:19.47 | crypticmofo | that should fix it .. its doing something right now |
| 19:20.03 | ToeTag | An LVM is so that we can kind of encapsulate multiple partitions inside of one *real* partition right? |
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| 19:20.08 | nsadmin | crypticmofo, if that doesn't work, try apt-get -f install |
| 19:20.16 | ToeTag | in regards to the hard limit of 4 on a MBR disk? |
| 19:20.20 | crypticmofo | ok |
| 19:20.39 | nsadmin | ToeTag, that's one application, yes |
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| 19:20.50 | ToeTag | bye _Gay-Ecuador, see you next time |
| 19:21.00 | nsadmin | remember that mbr is slowly going away |
| 19:21.02 | tharkun | spots a red led on an hdd where there should be a green one 8O |
| 19:21.06 | crypticmofo | nsadmin, i was advised earlier apt-get is good tools it just installs stuff aptitude does dependancies right .. would it make more sense to do a apititude dist-upgrade istead of apt-get beucase of depenancieds ? |
| 19:21.28 | nsadmin | aptitude does have better dep resolution |
| 19:21.28 | ToeTag | apt-get is THE recommended method for dist-upgrade |
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| 19:21.43 | ToeTag | in all other cases, aptitude is the recommended |
| 19:21.43 | crypticmofo | ok |
| 19:21.56 | crypticmofo | so apt-get to do dist upgrades and what not and aptitude for the reset ? |
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| 19:21.58 | nsadmin | that also depends on what version you're upgrading |
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| 19:22.20 | ToeTag | let me specify, if you are moving from <squeeze> to <testing> or <wheezy>, apt-get is strongly recommended over aptitude |
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| 19:22.28 | nsadmin | on some versions of debian aptitude is fine for dist upgrade |
| 19:22.55 | crypticmofo | yea im going from squeeze to wheezy im did at-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:23.01 | nsadmin | right, like you and I both say, it depends on which version you're upgrading from |
| 19:23.10 | nsadmin | and could also depend on how you upgrade |
| 19:23.22 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: you did apt-get update first, yeah? |
| 19:23.29 | ToeTag | after changing your .sources |
| 19:23.30 | converge | how to check all available drivers to mount ? |
| 19:24.12 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, yes i just did a fresh install of squeeze .. did apt-get update .. changed sources.list to wheezy did a apt-get update .. then apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 19:24.34 | nsadmin | converge, (I suspect you might be asking about something else but) drivers (and other kernel modules) are located in /lib/modules |
| 19:24.42 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: interesting, some basic stuff: Did you md5 your .iso after downloading? |
| 19:24.59 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: also, which .iso did you use to install <squeeze> |
| 19:25.01 | converge | nsadmin: I mean optical drive |
| 19:25.08 | converge | cdrom |
| 19:25.08 | crypticmofo | umm |
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| 19:25.44 | nsadmin | the optical drive is connected to your machine how? |
| 19:25.49 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: also, if md5 means nothing to you, that's okay too |
| 19:25.52 | abyxcos | Can wheezy handle ext4 filesystems on boot these days? Or do I still need to make a /boot in ext2? |
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| 19:26.10 | tharkun | If I have a failing hdd on a lvm system, how can I check which hdd is failing? |
| 19:26.17 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, i know what mdf5 is its to make sure its a legit iso or app .. that it matches whoever posted it so you know you have the right thing |
| 19:26.26 | nsadmin | you can make ext3 /boot |
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| 19:26.32 | zappal | abyxcos: ext4 works |
| 19:26.40 | Shoya_ | umm hello |
| 19:26.46 | karl-lugie | general |
| 19:26.47 | crypticmofo | totte, debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 19:26.49 | crypticmofo | err |
| 19:26.54 | nsadmin | umm jello |
| 19:26.59 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 19:27.00 | abyxcos | nsadmin: Is there any point in ext3 /boot over ext2 or ext4? |
| 19:27.03 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: exactly - it's very important to calculate that md5 hash of whichever .iso you downloaded and make sure it matches what is on the debian site |
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| 19:27.13 | nsadmin | abyx |
| 19:27.16 | Shoya_ | does debian have flash player support? i'm just wondering |
| 19:27.18 | nsadmin | not that I know of |
| 19:27.20 | abrotman | abyxcos: /boot/ really doesn't need journaling at all |
| 19:27.21 | ToeTag | Shoya_: yes |
| 19:27.22 | abrotman | !tell Shoya_ about flash |
| 19:27.25 | nsadmin | Shoya_, yes |
| 19:27.27 | abrotman | !tell Shoya_ about adobe flash |
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| 19:27.52 | zappal | abyxcos: |
| 19:27.56 | eptalon | heyas |
| 19:28.07 | zappal | abrotman: but /boot on ext4 works |
| 19:28.14 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: That would be the first place I would check is to make sure you have a valid .iso - you could be doing everything right but just started with a bad 'seed'. Let me know if you want help figuring out the md5 hash of your iso |
| 19:28.14 | Shoya_ | what would be the name of the package? since i thought it would be flashplugin-installer |
| 19:28.22 | abrotman | zappal: i didn't say it doesn't ... |
| 19:28.25 | ToeTag | flashplugin-nonfree i THINK |
| 19:28.26 | rizlah | Why would you /boot on ext4? |
| 19:28.32 | abrotman | zappal: i said it doesn't require journaling |
| 19:28.32 | rizlah | Why would you need journaling for /boot? |
| 19:28.39 | rizlah | What is your major malfunction??? |
| 19:28.40 | zappal | abrotman: that's right :-) |
| 19:28.51 | abrotman | Shoya_: see what the bot told you |
| 19:29.04 | abyxcos | rizlah: Because /boot is on / and I like journaling on /? |
| 19:29.06 | nsadmin | rizlah, my right foot thinks it's my left thumb |
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| 19:29.18 | eptalon | suppose there is a package x, in version n, and then the underlying software is released in version n+1, or n+2, is this a reason for an nmu; also supposing that it does not fix any securiry stuff, and is low prio otherwise? |
| 19:29.26 | rizlah | Why would /boot be on /? You don't use a seperate boot partition? |
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| 19:29.48 | ToeTag | rizlah: by defualt everything is on / |
| 19:29.54 | ToeTag | except swap |
| 19:29.59 | abrotman | i haven't used a separate /boot/ in ages |
| 19:30.03 | abrotman | there's not much need |
| 19:30.04 | abyxcos | Why? In case the evil hackers own my system I can still boot into single user mode because /boot is mounted read-only? |
| 19:30.05 | rizlah | Right, my question was "You don't use a seperate boot partition?" |
| 19:30.13 | rizlah | Full disk encryption |
| 19:30.21 | abrotman | sure .. that's not a need, that's a want |
| 19:30.27 | rizlah | Laptop? |
| 19:30.31 | nsadmin | rizlah, it really depends. I -always- (that's right, always) use about 4-7 separate partitions |
| 19:30.38 | abyxcos | To what advantage? Sell me on it. |
| 19:30.40 | abyxcos | !Laptop. |
| 19:30.40 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about Linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html . For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. Also ask me about <acpi>, <laptop mode>, <netbook>, <pcmcia>, <suspend>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn . See also the debian-laptop mailing list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 19:31.02 | rizlah | nsadmin: I ALWAYS use /boot, LUKS ( LVM ( /, etc) ) |
| 19:31.06 | rizlah | Laptops get stolen bro, ID theft is big deal. |
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| 19:31.09 | rizlah | Digital age |
| 19:31.25 | abrotman | computers get stolen |
| 19:31.27 | abrotman | so do phones |
| 19:31.36 | rizlah | abrotman: I know, hence encryption |
| 19:31.37 | nsadmin | you might also want a separate /home |
| 19:31.43 | abyxcos | I don't have a laptop. |
| 19:31.46 | ToeTag | How much does encryption slow down a machine |
| 19:31.48 | abrotman | your phone is encrypted? |
| 19:31.49 | rizlah | nsadmin: I have, "etc" mean't et cetera |
| 19:31.51 | nsadmin | like in case you want to change dists |
| 19:31.53 | rizlah | ToeTag: Not much |
| 19:32.04 | rizlah | ToeTag: Benchmarks show AES does roughly 200MB/s |
| 19:32.12 | abyxcos | My laptop is running OSX anyway, it'll get formatted by over 90% of the idiots that would be stealing around here. |
| 19:32.16 | nsadmin | but you wouldn't have /et cetera separate |
| 19:32.17 | ToeTag | rizlah: so ALL data on the HD is hashed? |
| 19:32.19 | eptalon | rizlah: I cureently have /,/boot,/home,/usr,/var on separate partitions, with different file systems; /dev, /tmp too. |
| 19:32.22 | rizlah | On a bad CPU |
| 19:32.24 | rizlah | abrotman: Yeah, android |
| 19:32.38 | rizlah | ToeTag: All data except that in /boot is encrypted |
| 19:32.44 | rizlah | eptalon: Surely you LVM |
| 19:32.46 | rizlah | Surely. |
| 19:32.49 | ToeTag | rizlah: cool |
| 19:32.52 | abrotman | !tell rizlah about enter |
| 19:33.05 | eptalon | rizlah: I use lvm for some, yes. I also use RAID for some. |
| 19:33.14 | ToeTag | I just put everything on / because I'm always worried about misappropriating space |
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| 19:33.17 | nsadmin | eptalon, do you use udev? |
| 19:33.24 | abrotman | ToeTag: that's what LVM is for |
| 19:33.26 | abyxcos | Also, why mess around with FDE? Why not just encrypt home or your documents volume? |
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| 19:33.32 | rizlah | You should RAID(LUKS(LVM())) |
| 19:33.37 | nsadmin | misappropriating space? |
| 19:33.40 | ToeTag | abrotman: but does it REALLY allow for resizing? |
| 19:33.44 | eptalon | nsadmin: isant that default, for /dev? |
| 19:33.45 | rizlah | abyxcos: Documents leak |
| 19:33.47 | Airwave | Sorry about that. I figured three lines would not be too much. |
| 19:33.51 | ToeTag | abrotman: there's still a huge risk, right? |
| 19:33.54 | rizlah | Many apps save files in swap/tmp/elsewhere |
| 19:34.00 | abrotman | ToeTag: no, they just make stuff up ... they totally lie, it'd never resize |
| 19:34.01 | Airwave | Oops. Wrong channel. |
| 19:34.01 | rizlah | SSDs also leak |
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| 19:34.17 | eptalon | rizlah: so far, I don't encrypt volumes. |
| 19:34.17 | rizlah | ToeTag: It does allow resizing |
| 19:34.19 | abyxcos | rizlah: vim saves files in ~/.vim/tmp. |
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| 19:34.36 | rizlah | abyxcos: Right, you don't get the full picture |
| 19:34.41 | ToeTag | abramart: I was told that no resizing of partitions is safe and that there is always a risk of corruption in the 'edge' sectors |
| 19:34.42 | nsadmin | eptalon, yeah, these days you should never need a disk-based /dev as the content gets generated by udev |
| 19:34.48 | abyxcos | rizlah: Also, most people aren't going to be splicing my power supply and wheeling my desktop out on a battery :P |
| 19:34.57 | rizlah | ToeTag: You have to resize LVM partitions on Debian. The OS is so ass-backwards it doesnt use IEC units |
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| 19:35.15 | abrotman | rizlah: if you don't like Debian, why are you here? |
| 19:35.18 | eptalon | nsadmin: udev on /dev type devtmpfs? |
| 19:35.19 | rizlah | I love debian |
| 19:35.23 | rizlah | Just dislike it's installer |
| 19:35.28 | ToeTag | <---- 100% gay for debian |
| 19:35.38 | abrotman | ahem ... |
| 19:35.45 | rizlah | When I want 128MiB, I want EXACTLY 128MiB, not 124.6MB |
| 19:35.59 | ToeTag | Dat Mibabytes |
| 19:36.07 | abyxcos | abrotman: I don't like debian, but I'm here... Plenty of reasons :P |
| 19:36.07 | rizlah | MebiBytes be hewt |
| 19:36.13 | eptalon | nsadmin: as i said, /tmp, /dev, /sys, /run, /var/run are variants of tmpfs. |
| 19:36.42 | ToeTag | Can you put as many paritions as you want in an LVM? |
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| 19:36.46 | nsadmin | hmm, /var/run? that's a new one on me |
| 19:36.48 | zappal | eptalon: how much ram do you have? |
| 19:36.53 | rizlah | ToeTag: You can put as many as you want, + 1 |
| 19:36.54 | eptalon | rizlah: 1MB has been 1 million bytes for some time (as in at least 10 years) now. |
| 19:36.56 | nsadmin | ToeTag, yes |
| 19:37.01 | eptalon | zappal: 8G? |
| 19:37.03 | nsadmin | limited by space |
| 19:37.09 | ToeTag | very interesting |
| 19:37.18 | rizlah | eptalon: Right, what is the difference between 1TB and 1TiB? Roughly 90G |
| 19:37.21 | rizlah | Big difference |
| 19:37.31 | ToeTag | Is LVM *the* way to encrypt the data on your disk, or are they two separate concepts |
| 19:37.32 | rizlah | MiB is the future guys, start getting with the program |
| 19:37.34 | ToeTag | if that makes sense |
| 19:37.35 | nsadmin | not compared to a tb |
| 19:37.37 | eptalon | rizlah: not worth caring about. |
| 19:37.55 | abyxcos | ToeTag: They're separate concepts, but LVM makes it easier. |
| 19:37.55 | ToeTag | I mean, can a disk be encrypted without using LVM |
| 19:37.59 | nsadmin | but who are the future guys? |
| 19:37.59 | ToeTag | ahh okay |
| 19:38.08 | rizlah | ToeTag: Encryption goes like this: /boot partition, LUKS encrypted partition: LVM inside said partition, partitions inside said LVM |
| 19:38.17 | rizlah | ToeTag: You can, but everyone uses LVM |
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| 19:38.25 | ToeTag | Interesting |
| 19:38.33 | eptalon | rizlah: whats the use of encrypting boot? |
| 19:38.38 | ToeTag | I'm going to look into this |
| 19:38.40 | rizlah | You don't encrypt it |
| 19:38.41 | boudiccas | you can also use truecrypt |
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| 19:38.52 | abrotman | !enter |
| 19:38.52 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 19:39.00 | eptalon | boudiccas: thats proprietary, non-open. |
| 19:39.01 | ToeTag | Do any of you have experience optimizing debian on SSDs |
| 19:39.09 | rizlah | ToeTag: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_Encryption |
| 19:39.16 | useless-1ater | ToeTag: luks is great. I use it a lot for removable devices |
| 19:39.25 | nsadmin | you want to try to limit writes to ssds |
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| 19:39.31 | jelly-home | ToeTag: what kind of io workload do you run on ssd? |
| 19:39.36 | ToeTag | rizlah: thanks I'm going to give this a try and check out the speed difference |
| 19:40.08 | rizlah | ToeTag: This is the correct link: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS |
| 19:40.08 | ToeTag | jelly-home: nothing intensive on read/write. This is just a netbook mostly for web browsing and some coding |
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| 19:40.19 | ToeTag | rizlah: thanks! |
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| 19:40.32 | jelly-home | don't worry about optimizing much, then |
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| 19:41.04 | nsadmin | ToeTag, and the debian installer can set up a luks lvm pv for you |
| 19:41.12 | ToeTag | Do we need to do anything special to enable T.R.I.M. on ssds |
| 19:41.38 | ToeTag | nsadmin: yeah I'm going to give it a go, I've always opted out due to unfamiliarity, but I do want to start having my data encrypted just in case |
| 19:41.51 | ToeTag | I don't like that physical access is all that's needed to get anything off of a hard drive |
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| 19:42.06 | rizlah | Also, guise, don't use dd or badblocks to randomize anything, just setup LUKS on the partition/file, open it and dd /dev/zero into it. Fastest way to fill a drive with random data |
| 19:42.11 | jelly-home | ToeTag: getting rid of io scheduler (setting to noop) and perhaps the ext4 journal might be enough. Don't let TRIM run automatically either, run fstrim in a cron job every month or so instead |
| 19:42.41 | nsadmin | remember that when you get to the partitioner, you will be setting up the physical partitions first... this will include any lvm pv, storage for raid, luks lvm pv, etc |
| 19:42.49 | ToeTag | jelly-home: ah! Hadn't heard of fstrim, will research that as well |
| 19:43.14 | nsadmin | and I would recommend a partition for /boot outside of any of that, maybe 200-500 mb |
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| 19:43.25 | ToeTag | yeah nsadmin: I'm anticipating maybe a couple of tries - First step is to just understand the concept of exactly what's happening on the disk |
| 19:43.43 | rizlah | cryptsetup create <name> <device> --key-file /dev/random --key-size 512 --hash sha512 --cipher aes-xts-plain; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/<name> bs=4096; sync; cryptsetup remove <name> |
| 19:43.50 | nsadmin | good, that's very sensible... |
| 19:43.51 | jelly-home | nsadmin: that's mandatory for luks, you have to readthe kernel from some unencrypted place |
| 19:43.56 | rizlah | Faster than badblocks/dd /dev/urandom etc |
| 19:43.57 | eptalon | Ideally, / (and possibly /boot) is on a separate (non-raid) disk. |
| 19:44.00 | ToeTag | Is it that /boot can't be encrypted because the OS isn't loaded, to know how to unencrypt that information? |
| 19:44.12 | rizlah | eptalon: You cannot boot without /boot being seperate |
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| 19:44.19 | rizlah | GRUB does not understand encrypted drives |
| 19:44.24 | nsadmin | oh, I thought grub would take care of the passwd on boot... very good to knwo |
| 19:44.33 | formorer | thats not really true |
| 19:44.39 | abyxcos | The best solution to that is to store /boot or the key on a thumb drive attached to your keyring. |
| 19:44.41 | formorer | it understands some types on encryption |
| 19:44.45 | nsadmin | rizlah, yet :P |
| 19:44.46 | formorer | just not the common dm-crypt |
| 19:44.47 | rizlah | Yet again, the idea is this: /boot (128MiB), LUKS ( LVM ( Logical partitions (e.g. /, /var) ) ) |
| 19:44.54 | eptalon | rizlah: I already told you, there is no use encrypting "public" info, such as a linux boot image |
| 19:44.59 | ToeTag | By the way, if any of you old-schoolers have yet to get your hands on an SSD, the least I can do is highly encourage you to check them out |
| 19:44.59 | abyxcos | Unmount it after boot, if you walk/drive away, your computer can't be rebooted now without it present. |
| 19:45.22 | jelly-home | ToeTag: they're still rather expensive |
| 19:45.25 | rizlah | eptalon: I know, you're saying "I would recommend a partition for /boot outside of any of that" |
| 19:45.27 | ToeTag | I literally soiled myself the first time I used an SSD. It was only a moderate-juice i5 and the speed was ridic |
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| 19:45.33 | rizlah | /boot HAS to be outside |
| 19:45.39 | ToeTag | jelly-home: I got a top of the line 256meg for 200 |
| 19:45.45 | eptalon | ToeTag: I currently have no use for it. It will not speed up the system much. |
| 19:45.55 | ToeTag | They have come down in price SO much it's insane |
| 19:45.58 | ToeTag | eptalon: how so? |
| 19:46.17 | ToeTag | unless you're using openbox on an i7, it HAS to put your system into lightspeed |
| 19:46.17 | jelly-home | ToeTag: 256G and 200 of what currency? |
| 19:46.24 | ToeTag | jelly-home: USD |
| 19:46.48 | ToeTag | jelly-home: and that was for an OCZ Vertex 4 which is considered enthusiast grade / hi performance |
| 19:46.58 | abrotman | or you can get 1TB of 7200RPM for 200 ? |
| 19:47.01 | ToeTag | standard Samsung (rock solid reputation) are cheaper |
| 19:47.02 | eptalon | ToeTag: I do have fast disks, and the system is at login prompt in 30-40s. I have no use for it being faster. |
| 19:47.05 | jelly-home | the price here in .hr is double |
| 19:47.21 | rizlah | SSDs ar worth getting. 128G at < 90 |
| 19:47.23 | rizlah | Huge performance increase |
| 19:47.26 | rizlah | Worth the cash. |
| 19:47.31 | ToeTag | I'm talking about system responsiveness, not boot time |
| 19:47.35 | abrotman | rizlah: you need to fix your enter key |
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| 19:47.51 | abrotman | ToeTag: and once it's all loaded into RAM .. ? |
| 19:47.55 | rizlah | abrotman: Enter key is fine |
| 19:48.00 | eptalon | rizlah: I have a fairly responsive system, once booted. |
| 19:48.02 | ToeTag | All I'm saying is you guys are sharing loads of great wisdsom with me, the least I can do is let you know what's actually worth looking at with the new digs |
| 19:48.04 | abyxcos | abrotman: 1TB 7200RPM is 100usd+/- these days. |
| 19:48.12 | abrotman | abyxcos: i was thinking laptop sized .. |
| 19:48.14 | abrotman | the 2.5" |
| 19:48.16 | ToeTag | abrotman: well, if you run everything from ram then you're probably set |
| 19:48.28 | abyxcos | abrotman: I believe they're similar. |
| 19:48.34 | rizlah | You buy 128G SSD for OS, 2x2TB 3.5" HDDs setup as storage. |
| 19:48.43 | ToeTag | ^ this |
| 19:48.48 | abrotman | in my laptop? |
| 19:48.54 | rizlah | In your laptop goes the SSD |
| 19:49.02 | rizlah | 3.5"s go outside |
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| 19:49.06 | rizlah | Many cases around |
| 19:49.06 | abrotman | that's just dumb |
| 19:49.11 | ToeTag | It's an entirely different world of computing |
| 19:49.12 | rizlah | rofl |
| 19:49.14 | eptalon | rizlah: 2 disk setup (raid1) or 3-4 disk setup (raid5, raid6) |
| 19:49.18 | jelly-home | abrotman: you need to carry around a TB of data everywhere? |
| 19:49.28 | abyxcos | Some nice folks (seagate also sells them) made a hybrid 4gb SSD 1TB 7200RPM metal disk, the 4GB SSD acts as a buffer. |
| 19:49.32 | rizlah | eptalon: Yeah, Though anything more than 2 for casual storage is a bit overkill |
| 19:49.32 | abrotman | jelly-home: i don't .. apparently he does ? ... my stuff is on a server like a smart person |
| 19:49.48 | rizlah | Hybrid drives fail extraordinarily |
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| 19:50.03 | abyxcos | shrugs. |
| 19:50.06 | rizlah | abrotman: The cloud? You trust people with your data? |
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| 19:50.11 | ToeTag | Yeah I'm not trusting my SSDs for anything |
| 19:50.12 | abrotman | rizlah: who said cloud? |
| 19:50.16 | abrotman | so narrow minded |
| 19:50.19 | abyxcos | Depending on what you need, I have less than 10GB that really needs to be cached. |
| 19:50.20 | ToeTag | Cumulonimbus |
| 19:50.21 | rizlah | Server + no "My server" == cloud |
| 19:50.24 | Shoya_ | right, so i read it, the thing is, i think it's not found on the packages on squeeze |
| 19:50.27 | eptalon | rizlah: keep in mind that raid1 is basically limited to 2 devs, plus hot spare. Raid5/6 do not have this limitation (but are more write-intensive) |
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| 19:50.40 | ToeTag | Shoya_: you're wanting to install flash? |
| 19:50.43 | Shoya_ | yes |
| 19:50.54 | rizlah | eptalon: But do you really want to spend money on 4 drives for personal storage? That's the big question |
| 19:50.55 | ToeTag | Shoya_: okay there are a couple of steps |
| 19:50.57 | abrotman | eptalon: you can have as many drives in the mirror as you want |
| 19:51.11 | Shoya_ | i suppose i'll go to the site? |
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| 19:51.21 | rizlah | 2x4TB on RAID1 should be A-OK |
| 19:51.24 | eptalon | abrotman: so far, I haven't seen a raid1 setup with more than 2 drives |
| 19:51.25 | abrotman | Shoya_: did you see what the bot told you ? |
| 19:51.29 | ToeTag | Shoya_: do you need *adobe* flash? |
| 19:51.31 | abrotman | eptalon: doesn't mean it's not possible |
| 19:51.32 | Shoya_ | yes |
| 19:51.39 | Shoya_ | @abrotman |
| 19:51.47 | abrotman | Shoya_: so what's the problem? |
| 19:51.52 | ToeTag | Shoya_: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 19:51.53 | abrotman | Shoya_: install the flashplugin-nonfree package |
| 19:51.54 | Shoya_ | @ToeTag, as long as flash games are playable |
| 19:52.04 | abrotman | Shoya_: we don't use @foo in IRC |
| 19:52.24 | eptalon | abrotman: A 3 disjk raid5 setup is rather inexpensive, and easy to setup. |
| 19:52.25 | rizlah | OMG HASHTAGS |
| 19:52.26 | Shoya_ | installing flashplugin-nonfree will NOT automatically keep the |
| 19:52.29 | ToeTag | before you can install flashplugin-nonfree , you need to update your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:52.31 | Shoya_ | plugin updated |
| 19:52.31 | rizlah | #abrotman how r u |
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| 19:53.13 | Shoya_ | what should i add ToeTag? |
| 19:53.17 | abrotman | Shoya_: there is a program in the pcakage called 'update-flashplugin-nonfree' .. put it in a cron task |
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| 19:53.36 | ToeTag | Shoya_: okay, have you opened your /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor? |
| 19:53.41 | Shoya_ | yes |
| 19:54.01 | ToeTag | Shoya_: alright at the end of each entry where it says "main" |
| 19:54.31 | ToeTag | Shoya_: add a space after main, followed by "contrib non-free" |
| 19:55.14 | converge | is there someone here using linux as guest on vmware ? |
| 19:55.29 | abrotman | converge: lots of people, just ask your question |
| 19:55.41 | zappal | abrotman: could it work, updating from lenny directly to wheezy, or is it better going first from lenny to squeeze and then to wheezy with apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:55.43 | ToeTag | Shoya_: then save that file with however your text editor does it. And then run <# aptitude update> followed by <# aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree> |
| 19:55.58 | converge | I cant configure de Xorg to work properly with a better resolution than 800x600px |
| 19:56.02 | nsadmin | Shoya_, you should consider learning something cool, like python or perl or tcl |
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| 19:56.17 | ToeTag | nsadmin: how come |
| 19:56.30 | Shoya_ | weird |
| 19:56.52 | Shoya_ | not letting me save the save the sources.list |
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| 19:56.55 | nsadmin | the other day you asked, "what should I do with my linux" |
| 19:57.10 | Shoya_ | i will |
| 19:57.13 | ToeTag | Shoya_: what text editor are you using |
| 19:57.17 | Shoya_ | Kwrite |
| 19:57.22 | Shoya_ | KWrite* |
| 19:57.30 | ToeTag | AH |
| 19:57.44 | nsadmin | some files you can't write to |
| 19:57.45 | ToeTag | Shoya_: I'm sorry, the file probably needs to be opened with root permissions. |
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| 19:57.50 | Shoya_ | says disk is full, no permissions, etc |
| 19:58.04 | Shoya_ | meaning? |
| 19:58.14 | nsadmin | full? pastebin output of df |
| 19:58.14 | ToeTag | Shoya_: have you used any terminal text editors? (nano, vim...) |
| 19:58.25 | Shoya_ | no, but i can try |
| 19:58.26 | eptalon | converge: (I don't use it with vmware, I have virtualbox setups though): the "virtual graphics card" needs to be configured to actually support the res, and the "guest driver" needs installing/configurationb |
| 19:58.36 | abrotman | Shoya_: did you edit the file as root? |
| 19:58.49 | Shoya_ | no, i don't know how to edit it |
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| 19:59.06 | eptalon | Shoya_: what filesystem are you using and how big is the partition? |
| 19:59.12 | ToeTag | he could gksu the file with kwrite? |
| 19:59.18 | ToeTag | I've never used gksu |
| 19:59.21 | Shoya_ | filesystem? |
| 19:59.38 | ToeTag | nsadmin: What would I do with my linux |
| 19:59.40 | abrotman | this is probably easier in a terminal using vi/emacs/nano |
| 19:59.42 | ToeTag | should* |
| 19:59.54 | nsadmin | tie it into a sailor's knot? |
| 20:00.07 | nsadmin | I don't know :) what do you want to do |
| 20:00.08 | ToeTag | Shoya_: yeah, just do this through the terminal, it's NOT hard and we can walk you through it |
| 20:00.16 | Shoya_ | well, let's do it then |
| 20:00.27 | Shoya_ | i'm on su right now |
| 20:00.30 | ToeTag | nsadmin: do you program with python |
| 20:00.47 | awc737 | why is extracting permissions different than copying? |
| 20:00.52 | eptalon | Shoya_: "mount", says something like lines: "/dev/mapper/bootlvm-var on /var type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,delaylog,inode64,noquota)" |
| 20:00.56 | nsadmin | no, mostly with tcl and sql |
| 20:00.59 | converge | eptalon: I just run the xrandr and it shows that my resolution is avaiable, can you paste you xorg.conf ? |
| 20:01.01 | ToeTag | Shoya_: okay, follow along: # nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:01.29 | nsadmin | nano is a good choice, easy to figure out |
| 20:01.30 | ToeTag | nsadmin: so it is YOU who should learn python! :D |
| 20:01.35 | Shoya_ | alright |
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| 20:01.46 | ToeTag | Shoya_: okay inside of that file you can use your arrow keys to navigate |
| 20:01.48 | Shoya_ | it opened a window |
| 20:01.59 | Shoya_ | the thing is |
| 20:02.03 | Shoya_ | there's nothing |
| 20:02.04 | eptalon | converge: unfortunately, it won't apply, as the virtual host machine is different. |
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| 20:02.27 | nsadmin | ToeTag, have it on the pile of things to do... things keep getting domped onto the pile |
| 20:02.36 | eptalon | Shoya_: what filesyszem is full? |
| 20:02.38 | awc737 | wtf, if I download something to Downloads, then copy OR move it to /var/www, it does not inherit my permissions I set with facl |
| 20:02.56 | ToeTag | Shoya_: okay, did you copy my command exactly? # nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:03.08 | LtL | Shoya_: you typed it wrong probably use tab comppletion ctrl+x and quit, start over |
| 20:03.16 | nsadmin | I did learn a little ruby... plus, you have to understand I know a good handful of languages |
| 20:03.19 | Shoya_ | umm, lemme try again |
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| 20:03.30 | zappal | abrotman: could it work, updating from lenny directly to wheezy, or is it better going first from lenny to squeeze and then to wheezy with apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:03.34 | Shoya_ | btw eptalon |
| 20:03.37 | ToeTag | nsadmin: I hear that. I just decided yesterday that I'm going to fully pursure C (over C++) |
| 20:03.45 | ToeTag | pursue* |
| 20:04.05 | nsadmin | C is a good choice even if you're going to go to c++ later |
| 20:04.07 | eptalon | Shoya_: you need to do the command ToeTag gave you without the first hash mark (#) |
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| 20:04.14 | abrotman | zappal: that's a really bad idea |
| 20:04.30 | ToeTag | nsadmin: right, It seems like the best fit for my *personality* ( I went deep with making this consideration) |
| 20:04.35 | zappal | abrotman: which one? |
| 20:04.46 | abrotman | zappal: you should go lenny->squeeze->wheezy |
| 20:04.49 | zappal | from lenny to wheezy? |
| 20:05.04 | zappal | abrotman: i thougt taht |
| 20:05.06 | Shoya_ | yes i did it like that |
| 20:05.08 | zappal | that |
| 20:05.27 | Shoya_ | i did it |
| 20:05.29 | ToeTag | maybe he wiped his sources.list |
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| 20:05.35 | Shoya_ | wait |
| 20:05.36 | Shoya_ | darn |
| 20:05.42 | abrotman | or he misspelled it? |
| 20:05.51 | nsadmin | ToeTag, Allan I Holub says the better you are at C (as -traditionally- taught), the better you will be able to construct good, robust c++ classes that know how to take care of themselves |
| 20:06.09 | awc737 | should mount | grep acl list anything |
| 20:06.14 | Shoya_ | wait, gimme a sec to get in order |
| 20:06.25 | Shoya_ | eptalon |
| 20:06.30 | nsadmin | ToeTag, while you're learning C, pick up a book called The C Companion (same author) |
| 20:06.35 | Shoya_ | what did you ask abou the type of filesystem |
| 20:06.38 | Shoya_ | about* |
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| 20:06.46 | ToeTag | nsadmin: yeah I want to get into the micromanagement, and specifically efficiency. On the other hand I've heard guys that go C++ from C don't usually use C++ to its fullest capacity |
| 20:06.55 | eptalon | ToeTag: C is standard procedural stuff, c++ is object-oriented; those are fundamentally different philosophies. |
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| 20:07.08 | ToeTag | My background is in Java |
| 20:07.18 | ToeTag | So right now I only think in an object-oriented paradigm |
| 20:07.21 | nsadmin | ToeTag, eww :) don't get pigeonholed as a micromanager :) |
| 20:07.27 | ToeTag | haha |
| 20:07.31 | awc737 | mount | grep acl shows nothing |
| 20:07.36 | awc737 | even though I added ,acl to fstab |
| 20:07.37 | nsadmin | how's your math background? |
| 20:07.38 | eptalon | ToeTag: Java to C++ is not much trouble; C is way different though. |
| 20:07.38 | awc737 | and remounted / |
| 20:07.47 | ToeTag | I basically just want to port gentoo to my wristwatch and then put IRSSI on it and chat to you guys, that's all :D |
| 20:08.13 | frikinz | probably easier to go from c++ to java than the opposite though |
| 20:08.20 | Shoya_ | well |
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| 20:08.23 | abrotman | awc737: did you remount the filesystem after adding that? |
| 20:08.42 | ToeTag | If Shoya wiped his sources.list, there isn't a command to run to regenerate that, is there? |
| 20:08.42 | Shoya_ | it shows dev/sdal/ |
| 20:08.52 | nsadmin | c++ classes let you do things that are not object oriented |
| 20:08.53 | ToeTag | I think you can do it through synaptic, or the software center |
| 20:08.54 | abrotman | !tell Shoya_ about squeeze sources.list |
| 20:09.11 | awc737 | yes abrotman, mount -o remount / |
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| 20:09.30 | eptalon | Shoya_: There are two things: if you type "df -h" (without the quotes) and hit enter, you'll get a list of how much space is used on what part of thr system (per where it is mounted), such as "/dev/mapper/daten-home 1.5T 1.5T 3.9G 100% /home" |
| 20:09.33 | Shoya_ | abrotman: ok, wait i know bout sources.list |
| 20:09.41 | ToeTag | Also a huge motivation for learning a real language (no offense java) is that I absolutely want to give back to debian |
| 20:09.48 | ToeTag | Someday want to be a dev |
| 20:10.11 | eptalon | Shoya_: this tells me, that on my home, 3.9GB of space is free, and that 100% is used. |
| 20:10.13 | abrotman | Shoya_: it has a sample sources.list for you |
| 20:10.19 | nsadmin | you should probably introduce yourself to debian-mentors |
| 20:10.19 | ska | Where is the xcp-xe package? |
| 20:10.35 | nsadmin | , versions xcp-xe |
| 20:10.36 | judd | Package: xcp-xe on i386 -- wheezy: 1.3.2-11; sid: 1.3.2-12 |
| 20:10.37 | abrotman | ska: are you sure it should exist? |
| 20:10.50 | Shoya_ | dev/sdal is 7.6GB, 3.1G used, 4.1G avail, 44% use, mounted on / |
| 20:11.03 | Shoya_ | @eptalon |
| 20:11.05 | ska | abrotman: no.. not at all. |
| 20:11.21 | nsadmin | seems to exist :) |
| 20:11.27 | ska | abrotman: just looking for the "xe" tool.. maybe just set it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:11.38 | eptalon | Shoya_: so, there's 4.1GB free on your file system. What did it tell you? |
| 20:12.04 | nsadmin | output of df should tell soemthing |
| 20:12.05 | Shoya_ | that's all it said for the Filesystem |
| 20:12.13 | ska | xe pif-param-set uuid=<pif_uuid> other-config:ethtool-gro=on |
| 20:12.24 | Shoya_ | how do i print that output? |
| 20:12.33 | nsadmin | you can pastebin it |
| 20:12.58 | Shoya_ | but how do i grab it from the console? |
| 20:13.03 | eptalon | Shoya_: if you type "mount", can you give us the line it gives for your filesystem? |
| 20:13.28 | nsadmin | you -could- redirect the output to a file, or pipe it to something like nopaste |
| 20:13.44 | Shoya_ | /dev/sdal on / type ext3 (we,errors=remount-ro) |
| 20:13.46 | ska | nsadmin: what repo do you show it in? |
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| 20:14.01 | Shoya_ | i meant to say rw, not we |
| 20:14.13 | nsadmin | ska, it's in wheezy and in sid |
| 20:14.20 | eptalon | Shoya_: also looks pretty standard. |
| 20:14.28 | nsadmin | according to juddthebot |
| 20:14.47 | ska | nsadmin: aha.. im using stable/6 |
| 20:15.06 | nsadmin | so you'd have to backport it |
| 20:15.34 | Shoya_ | so, ok |
| 20:16.08 | awc737 | wtf |
| 20:16.10 | eptalon | do, there is 4.1G free on your drive, and it mounted readable/writable. What was your problem? |
| 20:16.20 | awc737 | I am in www-data group, nautilus shows Group www-data has Read and write |
| 20:16.24 | awc737 | yet I can't right click and create folder |
| 20:16.54 | nsadmin | awc737, ls -ld on the folder you're trying to create it in |
| 20:17.07 | nsadmin | that should be one line |
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| 20:17.44 | awc737 | nsadmin what does that accomplish |
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| 20:18.09 | eptalon | awc737: it lists the permissions of the "parent folder" |
| 20:18.12 | awc737 | drwxrwsr-x+ 1 root www-data |
| 20:18.35 | nsadmin | it shows the permissions and ownerships on the folder you try to create the other folder in |
| 20:18.36 | awc737 | that should be enough permission for my user in group www-data to create a folder |
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| 20:18.48 | nsadmin | should be, yes |
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| 20:19.12 | awc737 | i think it's a nautilus bug |
| 20:19.22 | awc737 | well maybe not bug, but issue I'm having |
| 20:19.25 | nsadmin | when did you add yourself to the group? |
| 20:19.35 | nsadmin | right, it's local to you |
| 20:19.42 | awc737 | just a few moments ago |
| 20:19.48 | awc737 | do I need to log out |
| 20:19.53 | eptalon | awc737: log out, log in. |
| 20:19.57 | awc737 | good call |
| 20:20.06 | nsadmin | ok, did you log out/log in last time before or after? |
| 20:20.14 | awc737 | not yet |
| 20:20.35 | nsadmin | ok, you'll probably want to log out of your gui session |
| 20:20.40 | nsadmin | then log in |
| 20:20.47 | nsadmin | then check output of groups |
| 20:20.48 | Shoya_ | ok back |
| 20:20.53 | Shoya_ | i don't know |
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| 20:20.59 | Shoya_ | here's crazy |
| 20:21.00 | eptalon | Shoya_: so what was your porblem? |
| 20:21.18 | Shoya_ | ok |
| 20:21.21 | Shoya_ | now it opened |
| 20:21.23 | Shoya_ | on nano |
| 20:21.59 | nsadmin | ok, good... so ToeTag was going to help you with the stepbystep |
| 20:22.05 | eptalon | your filesystem is writable, and it has enough free space. Note that by default, a regular user can just write to his/her home directory (and some places for temporary files) |
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| 20:23.09 | eptalon | ToeTag: your call on Shoya_ |
| 20:23.10 | nsadmin | and, by default, you'd have to become the user who owns the files to write them |
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| 20:23.42 | awc737 | thanks nsadmin eptalon, it's working |
| 20:23.51 | eptalon | great. :) |
| 20:24.15 | awc737 | now my question, how do I get a file with -rw-r--r--, to inherit -rw-rw-r--, when I move it from ~/home/ to /var/www ? |
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| 20:24.35 | nsadmin | awc737, now look at output of groups which should show you in that group |
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| 20:24.45 | awc737 | yes I am |
| 20:24.59 | awc737 | well I was to begin with, but I think gnome/nautlius needed to update |
| 20:25.11 | nsadmin | awc737, you can try adding setgid bit to the folder you created |
| 20:25.42 | ToeTag | Shoya_: sorry bud, you still there? |
| 20:26.36 | nsadmin | awc737, you probably have to chmod a file you move there, by hand |
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| 20:26.51 | Shoya_ | still here |
| 20:27.02 | awc737 | every time :( surely there must be a way to inherit |
| 20:27.08 | awc737 | for a web server it makes no sense |
| 20:27.15 | ToeTag | okay Shoya_ you got your /etc/apt/sources.list open in nano? And there are entries in there? |
| 20:27.18 | awc737 | like what if a user uploads a plugin through a content management system |
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| 20:27.28 | nsadmin | a folder won't know it's part of a web server |
| 20:27.34 | crypticmofo | when you do a dist-upgrade and packages are kept back |
| 20:27.39 | crypticmofo | is that good or bad ? |
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| 20:27.51 | awc737 | right but there must be a way to do this, for web servers for example |
| 20:28.23 | nsadmin | crypticmofo, it's doing somethign "for your own good" (well probably)... |
| 20:28.25 | eptalon | awc737: all there is is the file system, and the "sticky" (sgid/suid) flag on the folder. |
| 20:28.40 | crypticmofo | nsadmin, coo thanks |
| 20:28.41 | awc737 | i did chmod g+s |
| 20:28.43 | awc737 | not sure what else I could try |
| 20:28.52 | crypticmofo | wow this is wierd .. so dist-upgrade it is keeping to packages back firght cpp-4.4 and gcc-4.4-base i did a apt-get install curl it wants to remove like 50 packages |
| 20:29.14 | nsadmin | awc737, you could try setting umask |
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| 20:29.30 | converge | where is the menu.1st (grub) in debian ? |
| 20:29.41 | awc737 | yeah I guess that's my best option |
| 20:29.44 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.54 | nsadmin | that will be global tho |
| 20:29.58 | eptalon | converge: /etc/grub? |
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| 20:30.17 | eptalon | converge: what nsadmin said |
| 20:30.33 | nsadmin | awc737, try "touch hi" when cd into the folder you made |
| 20:30.37 | nsadmin | then ls -l hi |
| 20:30.40 | Shoya_ | yes ToeTag |
| 20:30.57 | Shoya_ | i added the contrib non-free to the thing |
| 20:30.59 | converge | eptalon, nsadmin: menu.1st inst there, do you know where can I change grub config ? |
| 20:31.02 | Shoya_ | nex to the main* |
| 20:31.04 | awc737 | nsadmin everything works fine for users and groups working in the directory |
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| 20:31.07 | Shoya_ | next* |
| 20:31.11 | awc737 | my problem is with foreign objects coming into the directory |
| 20:31.18 | abrotman | Shoya_: and then you run `aptitude update;aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree' |
| 20:31.31 | nsadmin | converge, menu.lst is made by legacy grub, maybe you have grub2 |
| 20:32.00 | Shoya_ | but, the thing is, in what format do i save it? |
| 20:32.07 | nsadmin | in which case it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 20:32.11 | abrotman | Shoya_: format? |
| 20:32.20 | eptalon | Shoya_: you simply save it. |
| 20:32.24 | Shoya_ | how? |
| 20:32.31 | Shoya_ | i don't see the save command |
| 20:32.35 | nsadmin | Shoya, kwrite should do the right thing |
| 20:32.41 | Shoya_ | kwrite doesn't |
| 20:32.45 | eptalon | Shoya_: I think ctrl-s for nano. |
| 20:32.52 | nsadmin | wait, you're using nano, ctrl-x |
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| 20:33.04 | Shoya_ | now it tells me |
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| 20:33.16 | LtL | Shoya_: in nano, ctrl+x say yes hit enter |
| 20:34.12 | nsadmin | ctrl-x says "I want out of nano" |
| 20:34.14 | Shoya_ | Filok it's installing |
| 20:34.19 | Shoya_ | ok* |
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| 20:34.49 | nsadmin | after saving you want to run apt-get update |
| 20:34.59 | epitamizor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:35.15 | adaminsull | Hi |
| 20:35.17 | Shoya_ | done, it's installing, well more like it's not back |
| 20:35.22 | adaminsull | What is the lenny source |
| 20:35.22 | nsadmin | haven't used cmake |
| 20:35.36 | nsadmin | lenny is off the mirrors and archived |
| 20:35.39 | nsadmin | !lenny |
| 20:35.39 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 20:35.43 | abrotman | !tell adaminsull about lenny sources.list |
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| 20:35.52 | Shoya_ | now last output was "./install_flash_player_11_linux_x86_64.tar.gz" saved |
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| 20:36.03 | abrotman | Shoya_: right, should be installed now |
| 20:36.05 | adaminsull | abrotman: Ok but it said to add it |
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| 20:36.16 | abrotman | adaminsull: what said to add it? |
| 20:36.27 | adaminsull | The installation of a 2.6 kernel _could_ ask you to install a new libc |
| 20:36.27 | adaminsull | first, this is NOT a bug, and should *NOT* be reported. In that case, |
| 20:36.28 | adaminsull | please add lenny sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: |
| 20:36.29 | adaminsull | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.36 | adaminsull | Using apt-get upgrade |
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| 20:36.42 | abrotman | adaminsull: use paste.debian.net .. show us the full output |
| 20:36.45 | adaminsull | ok |
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| 20:37.53 | crypticmofo | guys i just messed up .. im using and learing vim and i messed up on my /etc/sudoers .. can somebody do this nl /etc/sudoers tell me what your line 21 says |
| 20:38.00 | adaminsull | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/208144/ |
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| 20:38.12 | awc737 | lol |
| 20:38.19 | Shoya_ | hmm weird |
| 20:38.19 | awc737 | ok so copying and moving files with umask 002 worked |
| 20:38.21 | crypticmofo | mine shows #inculdedir /etc/sudoers.d |
| 20:38.23 | crypticmofo | i know thats wrong |
| 20:38.26 | awc737 | but extracting into the folder did not work |
| 20:38.33 | abrotman | adaminsull: that's ubuntu, not Debian |
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| 20:38.46 | somiaj | crypticmofo: that is right. By default that is commented out and not needed (it allows you to uncomment it if you want to split your sudoers file into config snippets |
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| 20:38.59 | adaminsull | abrotman: I was sent here because lenny is a debian |
| 20:39.00 | abrotman | adaminsull: you sohuld ask #ubuntu what it's trying to do |
| 20:39.08 | X6402222A | Hi |
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| 20:39.19 | abrotman | adaminsull: it's their libc6 that is telling you to do that .. ask them why |
| 20:39.22 | eptalon | how do I cut the n'th line of a file to display, in a console? |
| 20:39.28 | adaminsull | abrotman: Ok |
| 20:39.50 | abrotman | adaminsull: and i can't imagine why a newer version of their OS would be asking about packages from a version of Debian that is four years old |
| 20:40.00 | Shoya_ | ok, it's not working? |
| 20:40.02 | LtL | awc737: because the extracted files were differnet permissions, you need to chmod those manually |
| 20:40.08 | abrotman | Shoya_: what makes you think it's not working? |
| 20:40.11 | Shoya_ | YT videos don't load |
| 20:40.12 | adaminsull | Same |
| 20:40.14 | nsadmin | head -n n filename | head -n 1 |
| 20:40.30 | abrotman | adaminsull: what same? |
| 20:40.31 | epitamizor | ah I just use make install DESTDIR=/mnt/lssto/dinstall |
| 20:40.40 | awc737 | permissions are a bitch I don't know how web servers seem to handle it so automatically |
| 20:40.43 | adaminsull | I don't understand why it is asking |
| 20:40.45 | abrotman | Shoya_: did you close iceweasel and re-open it ? |
| 20:40.57 | abrotman | adaminsull: right, they should know .. we certainly won't know why their libc6 is doing that |
| 20:41.05 | X6402222A | any body help, where i find working wheezy amd64 install cdrom ? |
| 20:41.10 | nsadmin | awc737, webservers like to be pedantic over permissions |
| 20:41.15 | rodgerisrad | from the iso's page. |
| 20:41.15 | abrotman | X6402222A: debian.org/devel/debian-installer .. get the netinst |
| 20:41.46 | adaminsull | abrotman: Ok mind if I idle for a bit? |
| 20:41.53 | abrotman | adaminsull: nope |
| 20:41.58 | adaminsull | ok |
| 20:41.58 | awc737 | ya |
| 20:42.06 | Shoya_ | ok, it works now |
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| 20:42.09 | LtL | Shoya_: did you restart the browswr |
| 20:42.10 | abrotman | Shoya_: good luck! |
| 20:42.11 | LtL | nm |
| 20:42.26 | crypticmofo | somiaj, http://sprunge.us/Bieb .. i can't even run regular sudo |
| 20:42.27 | abrotman | Shoya_: also, don't forget to run the 'update-flashplugin-nonfree' from time to time |
| 20:42.31 | awc737 | it's just annoying ssh'ing to run chmod crap if I am developing a site and do a simple change or add a folder |
| 20:42.35 | crypticmofo | i cut off sudo sorry |
| 20:42.46 | somiaj | crypticmofo: are you modifying the /etc/suders file directally? |
| 20:42.52 | somiaj | CybDev: or are you using visudo? |
| 20:42.52 | Shoya_ | abrotman, didn't you say something bout putting that command on cron task? |
| 20:42.58 | eptalon | crypticmofo: line 21 is empty here. |
| 20:42.59 | abrotman | Shoya_: sure, you can do it that way |
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| 20:43.07 | Shoya_ | and where is cron task? |
| 20:43.11 | X6402222A | i tryed http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, but i get "No kernel modules were found.... can't find modules because of different versions..." |
| 20:43.15 | abrotman | Shoya_: how often do you wan to update it ? |
| 20:43.20 | abrotman | X6402222A: use the netinst ... |
| 20:43.21 | crypticmofo | yea normally i make backup of sudoers but this time i just messed up |
| 20:43.22 | somiaj | crypticmofo: are you suing visudo to modify your suders file? |
| 20:43.26 | Shoya_ | once a month? |
| 20:43.29 | abrotman | Shoya_: daily? weekly? |
| 20:43.33 | Shoya_ | or every 2 weeks? |
| 20:43.35 | abrotman | Shoya_: once a month is not frequently enough |
| 20:43.41 | somiaj | crypticmofo: /msg dpkg confmiss (you can delete the suders file, and follow that factiod to get a new default one and start there) |
| 20:43.42 | abrotman | Shoya_: let's do it weekly |
| 20:43.46 | Shoya_ | alright |
| 20:43.55 | somiaj | crypticmofo: also make sure you use visudo to edit the sudoers file as it will check for syntax errors before it saves it |
| 20:44.19 | X6402222A | abrotman, i have used current "firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso" same problem :/ |
| 20:44.20 | crypticmofo | i use vim |
| 20:44.28 | abrotman | X6402222A: still not what i said |
| 20:44.32 | somiaj | crypticmofo: do not modify the suders file directally. use visudo |
| 20:44.36 | crypticmofo | ok |
| 20:44.39 | crypticmofo | so i need to reinstall it |
| 20:44.52 | somiaj | crypticmofo: you don't have to, but that is my suggestion, reinstall the default config file |
| 20:45.00 | X6402222A | two different cdrom, same problem |
| 20:45.07 | crypticmofo | i need to learn it so i will like to reinstall it somiaj |
| 20:45.20 | crypticmofo | "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" im assuming in $packagename i put in sudoers ? |
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| 20:45.27 | somiaj | no sudo |
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| 20:45.30 | crypticmofo | oh |
| 20:45.34 | abrotman | Shoya_: vi /etc/cron.weekly/update-flash .. first line is "#!/bin/bash" .. second line is "/usr/sbin/update-flashplugin-nonfree &> /dev/null" .. then write the file, then 'chmod +x /etc/cron.weekly/update-flash' |
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| 20:45.59 | abrotman | Shoya_: you do this as root |
| 20:46.05 | somiaj | crypticmofo: the name of the package that has that config file |
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| 20:46.19 | abrotman | Shoya_: if you don't know how to use 'vi', use an editor you can use, like nano |
| 20:46.38 | nsadmin | he just did use nano for something else |
| 20:46.48 | eptalon | abrotman: wouldn't it be better to put that into /etc/cron.d and softlink from cron.weekly? |
| 20:46.54 | nsadmin | so nano is again a good choice |
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| 20:47.15 | eptalon | nano is a quaint little editor. |
| 20:47.30 | abrotman | eptalon: dunno if it really matters in this case .. it is simpler to leave out the symlink .. i get the impression the guy is a bit new with linux |
| 20:47.30 | nsadmin | I still liked ae |
| 20:48.01 | eptalon | abrotman: I get that feeling too |
| 20:48.11 | eptalon | abrotman: new as in brand new |
| 20:48.39 | abrotman | eptalon: hard enough to use nano :) |
| 20:49.28 | eptalon | abrotman: in a world where there is word, and nothing else, probably. |
| 20:49.47 | abrotman | libreoffice! |
| 20:50.23 | eptalon | I haven't seen that preinstalled by default. A software vendor knows what's good for you. |
| 20:50.35 | Shoya_ | ok it's 2 lines abrotman |
| 20:51.12 | abrotman | Shoya_: right, got it all typed in and stuff ? |
| 20:51.18 | Shoya_ | yes |
| 20:51.21 | abrotman | Shoya_: and you did the 'chmod' ? |
| 20:51.23 | Shoya_ | write the file would be |
| 20:51.28 | Shoya_ | ^O? |
| 20:51.33 | Shoya_ | WriteOut |
| 20:51.36 | abrotman | i don't use nano .. i bvelieve os |
| 20:51.37 | abrotman | so |
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| 20:51.54 | abrotman | looks at the random 'v' |
| 20:52.52 | eptalon | Shoya_: ls -l /etc/cron.weekly/update-flashm, should say something like rwxr-xr-x... |
| 20:53.03 | Shoya_ | hmm |
| 20:53.07 | Shoya_ | says permission denied |
| 20:53.23 | ToeTag | PAE kernel stands for Penile Aggressive Encryption |
| 20:53.24 | abrotman | what says? |
| 20:53.27 | eptalon | Shoya_: ls -l /etc/cron.weekly/update-flash, should say something like rwxr-xr-x... |
| 20:53.28 | abrotman | ToeTag: no .. |
| 20:53.32 | Shoya_ | uhh |
| 20:53.38 | Shoya_ | ok so it didn't save it |
| 20:53.40 | ToeTag | abrotman: oops, wrong window |
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| 20:54.51 | Shoya_ | uhh |
| 20:54.56 | Shoya_ | i'll just get out of nano |
| 20:55.17 | rahsputin | hi. Are the iso's on this site to use for a fresh installation ? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 20:55.27 | abrotman | rahsputin: use the netinst |
| 20:55.39 | ToeTag | rahsputin: don't use the weekly snapshots |
| 20:55.42 | eptalon | Shoya_: Ctrl-X, should ask you, and quit... |
| 20:55.43 | ToeTag | they suck the ween |
| 20:56.07 | ToeTag | rahsputin: if you want testing, install a stable squeeze and then change that to track testing and update |
| 20:56.11 | ToeTag | just my $0.02 |
| 20:56.15 | eptalon | Shoya_: and nano is probably one of the easiest-to-use text editors... |
| 20:56.18 | rahsputin | abrotman, thats the think, i would like to make a DVD install ... i only have UMTS here and cannot install |
| 20:56.20 | Shoya_ | the thing is eptalon, when i try to save it |
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| 20:56.28 | abrotman | rahsputin: UMTS ? |
| 20:56.40 | rahsputin | abrotman, USB-Modem |
| 20:56.41 | X6402222A | abrotman which netinst should use ?? |
| 20:56.44 | abrotman | rahsputin: if that's the case, i'd use the squeeze DVD |
| 20:56.50 | abrotman | X6402222A: for which architecture? |
| 20:56.57 | rahsputin | abrotman, ok ;-) thanx |
| 20:56.58 | X6402222A | amd64 |
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| 20:57.01 | crypticmofo | any recommendations besides chroium-browser and iceweasel |
| 20:57.07 | crypticmofo | i was having issues loading vidoes on squeeze |
| 20:57.12 | abrotman | X6402222A: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b3-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 20:57.28 | eptalon | Shoya_: you need to do it as "root", normal users can't write to /etc |
| 20:57.29 | zappal | PAE kernel stands for Penile Aggressive Encryption <-- sounds good :-) |
| 20:57.51 | ToeTag | zappal: :D |
| 20:57.54 | ToeTag | $$$ |
| 20:58.00 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: did you install adobe flash |
| 20:58.07 | zappal | ToeTag: how much :-) |
| 20:58.13 | X6402222A | abrotman GenuineIntel T2310 |
| 20:58.20 | abrotman | X6402222A: and? i gave you the URL |
| 20:58.40 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, youtube is working so i guess its installed |
| 20:58.49 | Shoya_ | damn |
| 20:58.51 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, do you want me to try something else ? |
| 20:58.52 | Shoya_ | so that was it |
| 20:58.58 | Shoya_ | i forgot to log into root |
| 20:59.07 | abrotman | Shoya_: i told you that when i started explaining |
| 20:59.19 | X6402222A | this image http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ? |
| 20:59.22 | Shoya_ | sorry i forgot |
| 20:59.22 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: i think if you *don't* install adobe flash it has gnash |
| 20:59.29 | Shoya_ | thought i had logged in as root |
| 20:59.31 | eptalon | Shoya_: 'su' allows you to change to root on the flyx |
| 20:59.33 | abrotman | X6402222A: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b3-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 20:59.37 | ToeTag | which doesn't behave the same as adobe flash, if that's what you're used to |
| 20:59.39 | Shoya_ | i know |
| 20:59.42 | abrotman | X6402222A: i'm not sure how much more clear I could make it? |
| 20:59.44 | Shoya_ | but i forgot to od that |
| 20:59.52 | eptalon | Shoya_: we all learn. |
| 21:00.01 | Shoya_ | do* |
| 21:00.09 | Shoya_ | yeah, hopefully now it does it |
| 21:00.34 | nsadmin | yeah... you don't want to be logged in as root -habitually-... just when you need to make a change that can't be made as a plain user |
| 21:00.54 | Shoya_ | let me rephrase |
| 21:00.57 | rahsputin | gnight |
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| 21:01.15 | X6402222A | abrotman, why other images.. not work ? |
| 21:01.30 | Shoya_ | i forgot to write su, before putting the "nano /etc/cron.weekly/update-flash" command |
| 21:01.40 | abrotman | X6402222A: what error did they give you? |
| 21:01.44 | ToeTag | sudo* |
| 21:01.52 | abrotman | X6402222A: try the image I linked you to .. let us know if it works |
| 21:02.06 | ToeTag | man, i need an irc client that assigns colors to all the different bros |
| 21:02.10 | ToeTag | my eyes suck at this |
| 21:02.19 | eptalon | Shoya_: su -, then do whatever you like, then type 'exit' to return to normal user. |
| 21:02.30 | awc737 | what should I google... if I want to create a script that applies 775 -d and 664 -f recursively on a directory? |
| 21:02.41 | LtL | ToeTag: what client, most have nickcolors |
| 21:02.45 | zappal | ToeTag: irssi ist not bad... |
| 21:02.50 | X6402222A | abrotman : "No kernel modules were found.... can't find modules because of different versions..." |
| 21:02.52 | abrotman | awc737: man find |
| 21:03.00 | abrotman | X6402222A: try the beta3 installer, see if it works better |
| 21:03.01 | ToeTag | I'm in x-chat right now, still exploring how it all works |
| 21:03.14 | ToeTag | I do want to install one of the terdminal clients |
| 21:03.17 | awc737 | abrotman man find what? |
| 21:03.22 | awc737 | man find - magical script creator? |
| 21:03.37 | ToeTag | does irssi need to be configured to color the different nicknames? |
| 21:03.40 | digdilem | awc737, you know chmod does -R for recursive itself, right? |
| 21:03.44 | LtL | ToeTag: its in the preferences in xchat somewhere |
| 21:03.45 | zappal | no |
| 21:03.46 | babilen | ToeTag: irssi + nickcolor.pl / weechat that. Get quassel if you want a GUI one. |
| 21:03.51 | zappal | but you can do it |
| 21:04.00 | eptalon | awc737:: find is a program that finds stuff, and changes file permissions. man is the thing that displays the manpage for iz. |
| 21:04.03 | eptalon | er it |
| 21:04.05 | LtL | ToeTag: theres a script for irssi, install irssi-scripts |
| 21:04.09 | awc737 | digdilem not on files |
| 21:04.24 | abrotman | awc737: "man find" .. it's a man page .. read it |
| 21:04.26 | awc737 | eptalon, but I'm asking how to create a shortcut script |
| 21:04.42 | eptalon | awc737: "shortcut script"? |
| 21:05.00 | eptalon | awc737: "alias" is your friend |
| 21:05.01 | digdilem | awc737, um, yes on files. Files/dirs - makes no difference to chmod |
| 21:05.08 | ToeTag | bout to pimp my xchat weeeee |
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| 21:05.20 | awc737 | I can use the find command, in fact that's what I'm using: find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 2775 {} + |
| 21:05.28 | abrotman | awc737: so just make a script |
| 21:05.36 | digdilem | oh, only on dirs. gotya |
| 21:05.36 | awc737 | but I want to run that, and this find /var/www -type f -exec chmod 0664 {} + |
| 21:05.42 | awc737 | i want to run both at the same time, with one command |
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| 21:06.04 | schreber | Are there any PCI based wlan card that work "out of the box" with debian stable/testing? |
| 21:06.07 | X6402222A | abrotman, http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=80958_anna_no_kernel_modules_0_122_185lo.jpg |
| 21:06.19 | X6402222A | abrotman, i try B3 |
| 21:07.01 | X6402222A | abrotman : thanx |
| 21:07.09 | awc737 | so alias is what i'm looking for? |
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| 21:07.35 | eptalon | awc737: man alias. |
| 21:07.54 | eptalon | awc737: is pretty limited though, and does not replace a true script |
| 21:07.58 | tremon | have you tried man alias yourself? |
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| 21:08.29 | Aliud | schreber: Yes. Mine does. (rt2500-based) |
| 21:08.38 | awc737 | treman no I'm actually using this thing called google |
| 21:08.41 | eptalon | tremon: ops, bash bulitin. no manpage |
| 21:08.44 | schreber | Aliud, is that realtek ? |
| 21:08.50 | tremon | awc737: man find will tell you that separate conditions can be separated with -o |
| 21:08.51 | awc737 | it's got man pages on it + documenation, + tutorials, + simple writeups |
| 21:09.00 | awc737 | yeah but I don't even know how to use it yet |
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| 21:09.05 | abrotman | schreber: ath5k stuff should |
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| 21:09.22 | Aliud | schreber: Yes, it is. It was way more painful to get it working in the past. Now, with the serialmonkey drivers, "it just works". |
| 21:09.38 | abrotman | Aliud: out of the box? |
| 21:09.42 | tremon | awc737: I'm confused. You can type "find /var/www -type f -exec chmod 0664 {} +" here, but you don't know how to use it? |
| 21:09.42 | Aliud | Yes. |
| 21:09.54 | awc737 | what if I want to create a global alias, for root and all users? |
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| 21:10.10 | schreber | I assume the drivers are included in the most recent stable kernel, yes? |
| 21:10.10 | abrotman | awc737: create a script in /usr/local/bin/ |
| 21:10.14 | eptalon | awc737: you use a script. |
| 21:10.19 | awc737 | tremon, I know how to use find. I don't know how to create a shortcut command, like 'web-permissions' to run multiple find commands |
| 21:10.22 | awc737 | ok thanks |
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| 21:11.30 | awc737 | afterward, will I need to do alias name = '/path/to/script' ? |
| 21:11.37 | awc737 | because how would I also create that alias globally |
| 21:11.46 | abrotman | awc737: i just told you |
| 21:12.14 | awc737 | will having the script in /usr/local/bin/ be enough is what I'm asking. or will I still need an alias to reference it |
| 21:12.28 | tremon | the fomer |
| 21:12.37 | tremon | err, former that is |
| 21:12.46 | awc737 | ok thanks |
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| 21:13.15 | tremon | just remember to make the script executable (chmod a+x) |
| 21:13.29 | awc737 | awesome thanks |
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| 21:15.19 | lusers | Debian Wheezy comes with systemd or sysvint by default? I can't find anything but I'm guessing it's sysvint? |
| 21:15.31 | awc737 | tremon it works but not from anywhere in the cli |
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| 21:15.49 | awc737 | oh yes it does, i just need to do file.sh |
| 21:15.51 | babilen | lusers: your guess is correct -- you can install systemd though if you want |
| 21:15.58 | awc737 | i guess an alias would be to remove the .sh |
| 21:16.02 | abrotman | lusers: not systemd |
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| 21:16.15 | tremon | awc737: if it doesn't work from anywhere in the cli, where does it work from? |
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| 21:16.26 | lusers | babilen: Is it recommended though? Major improvement or is that merely thoughts and opinions at this time? |
| 21:16.28 | awc737 | within the directory it exists |
| 21:16.30 | awc737 | but nvm I was wrong |
| 21:16.45 | lusers | abrotman: ^ (you too) |
| 21:17.00 | grawity | How do I configure multiple IPv6 gateways in /etc/network/interfaces? (The manual page says "colon delimited", but that doesn't make sense for IPv6 addresses...) |
| 21:17.44 | Dagger2 | I guess "up ip route add default via <address>" lines would work |
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| 21:18.04 | babilen | lusers: It certainly isn't as widely tested and there are many (heated) debate about systemd and making it the default. I don't use it, but some people do and are happy with it. This has been discussed ad nauseam on the debian-devel mailing list and you can just read that. |
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| 21:19.15 | grawity | Dagger2: I guess I'll use that. |
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| 21:20.15 | brokencycle | hi! |
| 21:20.44 | brokencycle | i'm struggling with ipv6. got a static prefix (/48), |
| 21:21.03 | Dagger2 | two IPv6 questions in 3 minutes. not bad |
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| 21:21.22 | tremon | no second question yet :) |
| 21:21.23 | brokencycle | but although i see the correct gateway using 'ip -6 route show', i can't ping it. |
| 21:21.46 | Dagger2 | I guess it's coming :) |
| 21:21.47 | crypticmofo | im assuming aobe flash = non -free and i have to put it in my sources.list |
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| 21:21.50 | brokencycle | the gateway is within my prefix... but the problem is, i see packets going only to |
| 21:21.54 | crypticmofo | there a guide for this ? |
| 21:22.01 | brokencycle | 'lo' when they should go out via 'br0'. |
| 21:22.13 | crypticmofo | i foun dit |
| 21:22.16 | crypticmofo | i messagesd dpkg |
| 21:22.28 | brokencycle | with the metric for 'lo' being -1, and for 'br0' 1024 |
| 21:22.30 | tremon | !cookie dpkg |
| 21:22.31 | crypticmofo | actually im confused |
| 21:22.32 | dpkg | spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... keyboard locks up... OK, you have a serial mouse and GPM is trying to use PS/2. reboot, and at the lilo prompt, hit left shift, then type linux single. dpkg --purge gpm, then type sync and then press alt-ctl-del to reboot. now you can just leave it like that or configure GPM *CORRECTLY*, or just ssh in and remove gpm! |
| 21:22.45 | crypticmofo | Adobe Flash Player is <non-free>. The easiest way to install it is with the flashplugin-nonfree <contrib> package for squeeze and later releases. There is also a flashplayer-mozilla package in <dmm> (non-free section). WARNING: |
| 21:22.48 | crypticmofo | i do'nt get this ? |
| 21:22.49 | grawity | brokencycle: do you have a route for your /48 through br0? |
| 21:23.20 | brokencycle | when i switch on dhcp6, it works. :(( |
| 21:23.22 | tremon | crypticmofo: please be specific with your question, what is unclear? |
| 21:23.26 | brokencycle | grawity: yes, i hae, |
| 21:23.28 | crypticmofo | oh sorry |
| 21:23.29 | brokencycle | have |
| 21:23.30 | Dagger2 | brokencycle: what details have they given you? |
| 21:23.34 | Dagger2 | s/they/your ISP/ |
| 21:23.47 | grawity | maybe I should ask for a pastebin of `ip -6 r` |
| 21:23.52 | crypticmofo | umm.. |
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| 21:24.07 | Dagger2 | and yeah, pastebin that and `ifconfig` |
| 21:24.18 | brokencycle | I've got an ipv6 prefix /48, that's all. this is also not the problem - i had it running at some point, and can also get it running using dhcpv6, but want to use static addressing, locally |
| 21:24.22 | crypticmofo | i think i found it sorry tremon |
| 21:24.33 | grawity | is not a fan of static addressing |
| 21:24.36 | tremon | brokencycle: while you're at it, a pastebin of ip -s -6 neigh would also help |
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| 21:25.05 | brokencycle | grawity: i am a fan of static addressing, as i run some services on this box, and the *@Y#$@(*&!@)#(* "router" always screws my dns |
| 21:25.21 | brokencycle | tremon: looking into it... |
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| 21:25.55 | brokencycle | tremon: the router is marked as "REACHABLE" |
| 21:26.18 | brokencycle | using the correct address and all |
| 21:26.48 | tremon | good. Any firewalls in between? |
| 21:26.49 | Dagger2 | brokencycle: you should have a /48 for downstream use, but also a /64 for use on your upstream interface, and your router's default gateway should be inside the /64 |
| 21:26.51 | brokencycle | the site local address for the router (fe80::somehting) is "STALE" |
| 21:27.08 | tremon | Another dirty little secret is that if you want to ping6 a link-local address, you need to explicitly specify the interface |
| 21:27.16 | Dagger2 | if your router's default gateway is in the /48 then somebody's screwed up, because the gateway needs to be upstream, not downstream |
| 21:27.30 | brokencycle | Dagger2: I'm not sure I understand the question, but I can traceroute6 the outside of the router, too. |
| 21:27.43 | brokencycle | it's the router that I can't reach in the LAN that breaks things |
| 21:28.35 | crypticmofo | pcid 14e4:4312 |
| 21:28.37 | brokencycle | tremon: i try to ping the globally valid address on the inside of the router, which works when I enable autoconfiguration |
| 21:28.43 | brokencycle | but not with static configuration |
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| 21:29.04 | awc737 | why is this at the top of most script #!/bin/bash |
| 21:29.10 | brokencycle | i also cannot 'ip -6 route del "::/0" dev lo' or similar |
| 21:29.16 | awc737 | and does it need to be on mine :) |
| 21:29.17 | brokencycle | and i don't understand that |
| 21:29.22 | tremon | can you compare the local differences between autoconf and dhcpv6? |
| 21:29.23 | Dagger2 | brokencycle: "what are the details your ISP gave you, and please pastebin `ifconfig` and `ip -6 r`" |
| 21:30.28 | nsadmin | awc737, there is not just one language that a script can be interpreted in |
| 21:30.28 | tremon | awc737: it tells the system what kind of script it is. More specifically, it specifies the interpreter for the script |
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| 21:30.50 | babilen | awc737: You might want to read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide -- the "#!/bin/bash" is called a shebang/hashbang and allows you to execute the script without calling the interpreter directly on the command line |
| 21:31.44 | babilen | awc737: And also: this is hardly Debian specific and you might want to ask in #bash if they can recommend some good tutorials or documentation for beginners. Good luck with your scripting endeavour. :) |
| 21:31.49 | awc737 | oh thanks |
| 21:32.04 | tremon | brokencycle: iirc, you can ip -6 route del default |
| 21:32.06 | awc737 | i'd rather stick to programming web development lol |
| 21:32.08 | awc737 | this is crazy |
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| 21:32.30 | nsadmin | it's all relevent |
| 21:32.34 | nsadmin | it |
| 21:32.43 | nsadmin | is mostly in common: |
| 21:32.53 | nsadmin | you're trying to learn to -program- |
| 21:33.09 | nsadmin | it's good you're learning something better than php |
| 21:33.14 | ToeTag | just convention/instruction, that's all |
| 21:33.28 | nsadmin | (anything's better than php, no matter what the definition of better is) |
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| 21:34.38 | brokencycle | tremon: tried that already, but it didn't work |
| 21:34.53 | brokencycle | Dagger2: any way to remove identifying info from this stuff you want to see? |
| 21:34.59 | grawity | tremon: 'default' is just an alias for '::/0' |
| 21:35.00 | awc737 | it's quite different syntax than c# or java or javascript or ruby my main languages |
| 21:35.04 | nsadmin | web development is quite hard because you have about 5-7 technologies that come together |
| 21:35.11 | awc737 | yes |
| 21:35.34 | nsadmin | and you have to at least be proficient in all of them |
| 21:35.43 | ToeTag | or just make html sites |
| 21:35.45 | tremon | grawity: thx, but my point was actually that he didn't need to specify the interface :) |
| 21:35.46 | brokencycle | tremon: the darn route via 'lo' does not disappear, and the address that should be on br0, gets re-bound to lo on '/etc/init.d/networking stop; /etc/init.d/networking start' |
| 21:35.48 | Aliud | And about 5 browsers, each of which has a different notion of such technologies. |
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| 21:35.56 | Dagger2 | brokencycle: problem is you run the risk of removing something important :/ |
| 21:36.07 | nsadmin | that's the part I'd much rather avoid and forget about |
| 21:36.23 | ToeTag | www.thebestpageintheworld.com I'm basically the best webDev of all time |
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| 21:36.39 | brokencycle | Dagger2: yes... |
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| 21:37.31 | nsadmin | or scorecard.org |
| 21:38.17 | nsadmin | ToeTag, http://openacs.org/doc/acs-templating/demo |
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| 21:38.47 | Dagger2 | brokencycle: would PMing them to me be ok? |
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| 21:39.33 | ToeTag | nsadmin: nice and clean i like it |
| 21:39.45 | ToeTag | not messy on the eyes |
| 21:39.54 | nsadmin | it's using itself to demo itself |
| 21:40.45 | Dagger2 | brokencycle: or otherwise I guess you could blank out the first two or maybe three sections of the addresses |
| 21:41.41 | brokencycle | Dagger2: I'm replacing the real prefix with something out of the Stockebrand book... search/replace should be "error free" |
| 21:41.43 | crypticmofo | guys i don't want gdm to run or start at boot .. i already changed my inittab to 3 gut it keep booting gdm3 |
| 21:41.49 | crypticmofo | update-rc.d -f gdm3 remove < -- will this work ? |
| 21:41.49 | ToeTag | nsadmin: yeah i don't even know what tcl is |
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| 21:42.12 | abrotman | !tell crypticmofo about nodm |
| 21:42.32 | sevenfourk | nice thing, using all the time |
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| 21:44.42 | crypticmofo | abrotman, when i run aptitude remove gdm3 i get dpendancies error 1 gome 2 gnome-core 3 gnome-desktop-enviornment |
| 21:44.54 | crypticmofo | im assuming i remove gnome-core cause gdm3 depends on gnome-core |
| 21:44.55 | crypticmofo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.25 | crypticmofo | im using i3-wm |
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| 21:46.05 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: i didn't install a DM to begin with and my system boots to terminal by default |
| 21:46.10 | ToeTag | didn't have to specify any runlevels |
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| 21:46.20 | ToeTag | and then i just startx once i'm logged in and want to get into xfce |
| 21:46.24 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, my wheezy booted into gnome |
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| 21:46.36 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: ahhhh |
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| 21:47.00 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: when i started with the debian squeeze install, at <tasksel> i opted out of the "Desktop Environment" option |
| 21:47.08 | awc737 | muahaha! I shall change file permissions newly uploaded items with the speed of lightning |
| 21:47.09 | awc737 | http://paste.laravel.com/aAS |
| 21:47.13 | crypticmofo | thats why ToeTag |
| 21:47.14 | crypticmofo | :D |
| 21:47.16 | ToeTag | and then after i brought the headless system up to testing i installed xfce but not login manager |
| 21:47.30 | ToeTag | works great for me and i didn't have to specify any runlevels |
| 21:47.30 | Mike9863 | I messed up my installation by removing some packages and now I can't seem to reinstall them. When I run apt-get install gnome I get errors saying I have unmet dependencies. Is there a simple way to reinstall the default packages? |
| 21:47.53 | herrkey | "apt-get -f install" should workd things out. |
| 21:47.53 | crypticmofo | i know gdm3 is started via /etc/initt.d/gdm3 |
| 21:47.55 | nsadmin | crypticmofo, if you use aptitude to install stuff, then it will track what you install in a separate dir, such that things you -directly- install, when removed, will also remove the deps |
| 21:48.14 | Mike9863 | herrkey: I've tried that and it doesn't do anything. |
| 21:48.19 | abrotman | crypticmofo: so use the other method |
| 21:48.29 | herrkey | try apt-get update |
| 21:48.33 | herrkey | and then do that |
| 21:48.37 | Mike9863 | herrkey: Tried that too |
| 21:48.55 | herrkey | --fix-missing? |
| 21:49.43 | herrkey | or --fix-broken, rather |
| 21:49.58 | herrkey | nevermind, that's the same as -f |
| 21:50.23 | adaminsull | lol |
| 21:51.29 | herrkey | you can try an "apt-get clean", too... perhaps there's some corrupt stuff in the cache... although I'm not sure whether it wouldn't try to simply download again |
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| 21:52.14 | Mike9863 | herrkey: Yup, tried that one too |
| 21:52.14 | dvs | herrkey: probably some bad in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:52.20 | dvs | oops |
| 21:52.25 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: if you're only going to use one desktop, maybe dont' install a dm? |
| 21:52.34 | dvs | Mike9863: : probably some bad in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:52.48 | herrkey | what does "apt-get check" say? |
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| 21:53.32 | Mike9863 | dvs: I only added the sid repo before this happened, but I removed it afterwards |
| 21:53.38 | herrkey | ahhhhh |
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| 21:53.43 | herrkey | you can't mix sid with anything |
| 21:53.48 | Mike9863 | herrkey: It tells me it's fine |
| 21:53.51 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, im using i3-wm |
| 21:54.18 | Mike9863 | Yeah I installed some stuff with sid but it messed up my system, so then I tried removing what it installed but now everything's messed up. |
| 21:54.29 | dvs | Mike9863: And that's where the unmet dependencies probably are. |
| 21:54.30 | herrkey | most likely, the stuff you got from sid can't be reinstalled because there are dependencies missing now that you've removed it |
| 21:54.31 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: and you don't want gnome at all? |
| 21:54.52 | crypticmofo | ToeTag, nope |
| 21:54.58 | Mike9863 | So I should add the sid repo back and try reinstalling packages? |
| 21:55.24 | herrkey | maybe as a last resort... or you can just try removing/downgrading the stuff you got from sid |
| 21:55.27 | dvs | Mike9863: You pretty much have a sid system now. |
| 21:55.39 | nsadmin | if you do that you might end up with completely sid... or maybe half sid half something else |
| 21:55.53 | nsadmin | the latter is probably a broken mess |
| 21:55.55 | herrkey | yeh... your system is a bit "broken" |
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| 21:56.52 | Mike9863 | So there's no simple way to revert back to squeeze packages only? If not I'll try manually removing/adding packages and if that doesn't work I guess I'll just go with a reinstall. |
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| 21:57.33 | nsadmin | this was decided awhile back, on purpose: downgrading won't be supported |
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| 21:59.21 | herrkey | trying to remove some libraries and reinstall from squeeze you'd probably remove most of the system because of the dependencies... and it might still not work, Mike9863 |
| 21:59.38 | herrkey | I'd install it anew |
| 21:59.49 | nsadmin | so if you upgrade and ever want to come back... back up |
| 22:00.00 | nsadmin | or, right, install new |
| 22:02.34 | ToeTag | crypticmofo: you did try to remove all of gnome? |
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| 22:04.09 | herrkey | some noob where I used to work put the whole system in a single 400GB+ partition... plus an 8GB swap. People are dangerous... |
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| 22:04.54 | dvs | herrkey: meh. If it's for personal use, it's an acceptable first try. |
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| 22:05.41 | herrkey | maybe... but there are some 4 or 5 skilled people in the same room... whatever happening to asking =P. |
| 22:05.49 | herrkey | I do hope he's learned, though. |
| 22:05.57 | herrkey | happened* |
| 22:06.06 | ToeTag | why would you not do that |
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| 22:06.16 | ToeTag | why would you need to partition it up |
| 22:06.23 | herrkey | why? |
| 22:06.32 | ToeTag | what's wrong with one big / |
| 22:06.44 | herrkey | say you're Mike, from above |
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| 22:06.55 | herrkey | and you have it all in a single partition |
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| 22:07.07 | herrkey | now you'd have to back all your home up to reinstall the system |
| 22:07.11 | dvs | ToeTag: for starters, I'd put /home on a separate partition so in case the system has to be reinstalled, I won't lose everything in my home directory |
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| 22:07.23 | herrkey | now, of course, you should already have a backup, anyway... but it's inconvenient |
| 22:07.24 | ToeTag | is that *really* safe though? |
| 22:07.36 | ToeTag | keeping a /home when you reinstall the OS |
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| 22:07.47 | herrkey | and if it's a server there are *many* reasons for having a few partitions |
| 22:07.59 | herrkey | of course it's safe |
| 22:08.01 | ToeTag | yeah i'm aware of the log buildup |
| 22:08.03 | dvs | ToeTag: If you're reinstalling the same distro, sure. |
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| 22:08.10 | bfig | hello, i'm using xfce4 with amd drivers, is there a way to reset resolution without restarting the pc? |
| 22:08.23 | ToeTag | dvs i bet you still back up your home before you reinstall though, don't you |
| 22:08.23 | bfig | i *hate* having to restart whenever i want to use the HDMI cable |
| 22:08.27 | herrkey | not just the log... but the /usr/share too |
| 22:08.41 | nsadmin | not the least of which is to make sure filling of one partition will not adversely affect the whole system by allowing another area to be filled |
| 22:08.57 | dvs | ToeTag: Absolutely. |
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| 22:09.22 | rudi_s | bfig: xrandr? |
| 22:09.27 | nsadmin | ToeTag, having a separate /home is good for that |
| 22:09.39 | ToeTag | nsadmin: but you wouldn't trust it would you? |
| 22:09.43 | ar9 | hey so im installing debian right now, but i dont know what package i need to do startx |
| 22:09.45 | ToeTag | if you were going to reinstall your OS |
| 22:09.47 | ar9 | what do i install? |
| 22:09.50 | nsadmin | not without backing up |
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| 22:10.08 | dvs | ar9: A desktop environment like kde or gnome |
| 22:10.12 | herrkey | it's 99% safe to keep your /home partition |
| 22:10.20 | nsadmin | but it makes it easier to reinstall and have the old /home available |
| 22:10.31 | herrkey | you'll only lose it in the very unlikely event your partition table is screwed during the new install |
| 22:10.42 | ar9 | dvs: is there a super minimal way to do it? |
| 22:10.45 | ToeTag | so If I just want to have 3 partitions / /home and swap |
| 22:10.58 | bfig | rudi_s, i'd rather not use xrandr because i haven't been able to detect the proper resolutions without the amd drivers. |
| 22:11.05 | nsadmin | ToeTag, you can do that |
| 22:11.05 | bfig | but i'm open to experimentation |
| 22:11.07 | herrkey | that's fine for a personal use PC, ToeTag |
| 22:11.09 | ToeTag | I just need to leave room on / for the whole OS and whatever packages I might instal in the future? |
| 22:11.12 | dvs | ar9: Minimal is in what? diskspace? bandwidth? |
| 22:11.18 | Brigo | rgevaert: xinit |
| 22:11.20 | rudi_s | bfig: Oh, never used xrandr with proprietary drives. |
| 22:11.29 | rudi_s | No idea if that even works. |
| 22:11.41 | nsadmin | removes bfig's left toe and adds it to his right hand |
| 22:12.14 | herrkey | People are way too negligent with backups... and then they're devastated when they lose all their songs/movies/code/porn/whatever. |
| 22:12.29 | ToeTag | porn |
| 22:12.31 | ToeTag | definitely |
| 22:12.32 | ar9 | dvs: dependencies |
| 22:12.41 | nsadmin | the truth is backup is very expensive |
| 22:12.46 | herrkey | I'm afraid I learned it the hard way =/. |
| 22:13.04 | dvs | ar9: There is a kde minimal and gnome minimal packages |
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| 22:13.07 | herrkey | I keep one backup, and all that's in my desktop's /home is also in my laptop's /home. |
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| 22:14.09 | ToeTag | rsync? |
| 22:14.21 | herrkey | well, of course |
| 22:14.31 | herrkey | I used to ssh all the time... |
| 22:14.37 | ToeTag | a noob may not know this! |
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| 22:14.57 | ToeTag | Is cron just a daemon that will run shell scripts at whatever intervals you supply? |
| 22:14.58 | herrkey | then I figured it out that if I just copied everything, in addition to have instant access to it, it would function as a backup |
| 22:15.01 | ToeTag | specify* |
| 22:15.03 | bfig | rudi_s, open source drivers didn't work with kmd :( |
| 22:15.12 | bfig | (kernel mode xxx?) |
| 22:15.13 | rudi_s | bfig: :-/ |
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| 22:15.46 | rudi_s | ToeTag: It is. |
| 22:16.01 | herrkey | I'm afraid HDMI is problematic here too, with both AMD and Intel drivers =/. |
| 22:16.08 | ToeTag | rudi_s: cool! thanks |
| 22:16.08 | rudi_s | But with a minimal precision of one minute. |
| 22:16.29 | rudi_s | ToeTag: Oh, and it's for intervals. For one-shot jobs use atd. |
| 22:16.34 | rudi_s | *at (atd). |
| 22:16.52 | ToeTag | atd would be like "in the future I want ___ to run once"? |
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| 22:17.18 | rudi_s | ToeTag: Exactly. |
| 22:17.26 | ToeTag | very cool |
| 22:17.31 | rudi_s | Where future is a specific date/time. |
| 22:18.33 | ToeTag | is cron what the *system* uses to do automated tasks, or does it have its own thing |
| 22:18.40 | ToeTag | like say when the OS checks for available updates |
| 22:19.00 | rudi_s | ToeTag: For more complex rules (e.g. ever friday which is the second friday in the month, or similar stuff) have a look at remind. It's a sophisticated reminder service (e.g. like ical) but it can also be used to run commands. |
| 22:19.03 | herrkey | The distro uses it, yes... |
| 22:19.03 | themill | ToeTag: tools like cron-apt or update-manager use cron to do that, yes. |
| 22:19.11 | Brigo | ToeTag: man cron |
| 22:19.19 | rudi_s | ToeTag: The system is just the kernel. But the distribution (like debian) uses it for such tasks, yes. |
| 22:19.23 | rudi_s | See /etc/cron* |
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| 22:20.09 | ToeTag | god DAMN you guys spit the wisdom |
| 22:20.13 | ToeTag | i love coming here |
| 22:20.24 | dvs | !confuse ToeTag |
| 22:20.24 | dpkg | Yes, them was my ferret today, ToeTag? Trousers of the Dictatorship of Tibet with extra herring. |
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| 22:21.03 | ToeTag | today I've been exposed to / inspired to tackle next : (encrypted) LVM and now cron to do some light automation like update flashplugin-sh*ttynonfree |
| 22:21.14 | herrkey | You should "man" until the m, a, and n on your keyboard wear off, ToeTag. |
| 22:21.47 | ToeTag | herrkey: fair, but some of the man pages can be wildly overwhelming if they relate to a very new topic |
| 22:21.55 | herrkey | Yes. Some man pages stink. |
| 22:22.04 | herrkey | Like sed's, (in)famously so. |
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| 22:22.32 | ToeTag | When you use an encrypted LVM, are there any extra steps in the login process |
| 22:22.35 | ToeTag | say, to get to your desktop |
| 22:22.36 | rudi_s | man ip is IMHO the worst ... |
| 22:22.39 | ToeTag | Extra passwords? |
| 22:22.57 | herrkey | why, rudi_s ? |
| 22:22.58 | rudi_s | ToeTag: Yes, password on boot for the encrypted file system. |
| 22:23.00 | ToeTag | rudi_s: haha yeah some of the networking man pages I've looked at have been insanely huge |
| 22:23.12 | ToeTag | rudi_s: this is a terminal prompt? |
| 22:23.22 | ToeTag | after grub? |
| 22:23.25 | rudi_s | herrkey: Because it only shows the "grammar" of the commands but no usage examples or hints. |
| 22:23.32 | rudi_s | (And it's not even complete and correct.) |
| 22:23.42 | rudi_s | ToeTag: "Terminal" prompt, yeah. |
| 22:23.42 | herrkey | well, because the rest is in the other man pages... |
| 22:23.44 | ToeTag | EXACTLY, If i could change the world in one way it would be for all man pages to have examples |
| 22:23.48 | rudi_s | herrkey: Like? |
| 22:23.50 | herrkey | ip-* |
| 22:23.55 | herrkey | it's like git |
| 22:24.11 | herrkey | ip is faily straightforward |
| 22:24.14 | herrkey | fairly* |
| 22:24.19 | crypticmofo | anway to screenshot my boot screen .. im getting a lot of errors |
| 22:24.21 | rudi_s | herrkey: For example? I don't have any other man pages related to it. |
| 22:24.33 | herrkey | do you mean "ip", the command? |
| 22:24.36 | herrkey | try |
| 22:24.37 | rudi_s | Yes. |
| 22:24.41 | herrkey | ip-address, ip-link |
| 22:24.41 | herrkey | etc |
| 22:24.43 | herrkey | ip-route |
| 22:24.44 | ToeTag | If you render an encrypted LVM unbootable are you entirely screwed? Can you mount it on another OS? |
| 22:24.55 | herrkey | actually, ip's documentation is great. |
| 22:25.02 | joltcan | ToeTag: use a boot cd/usb/network image? |
| 22:25.08 | herrkey | examples and everything |
| 22:25.15 | rudi_s | herrkey: Hm. Seems these manpages are missing for me. Where can I find them? |
| 22:25.20 | ToeTag | joltcan: but will it give you access to that filesystem ? |
| 22:25.38 | herrkey | I'm not sure... maybe they're in man-pages-3.44. You can find the package in the kernel's ftp. |
| 22:25.42 | rudi_s | ToeTag: Debian's installer can mount it for you. And you can do it manually as well (if you boot a linux). |
| 22:25.45 | ToeTag | rudi_s: maybe they are only available with superuser privelages? |
| 22:25.53 | herrkey | 3.43, actually |
| 22:25.57 | ToeTag | rudi_s: it just prompts you for that password? |
| 22:25.58 | rudi_s | ToeTag: No, manpages are always available. |
| 22:26.00 | tremon | ToeTag: if you have the encryption key, and the crypt volume isn't damaged, then yes |
| 22:26.02 | rudi_s | Yes. |
| 22:26.07 | joltcan | ToeTag: No idea, but you can mount it from the temp boot os |
| 22:26.24 | ToeTag | sorry for the noob questions - have never used LVM before outside of CentOS and it was all automated |
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| 22:26.39 | ToeTag | still a new concept |
| 22:26.40 | rudi_s | herrkey: Can you give me the Debian package? dpkg -S /path/to/man/page |
| 22:26.55 | tremon | lvm itself doesn't do encryption btw. that's handled by cryptsetup or some other tool |
| 22:27.38 | tremon | with ext4, tune2fs shows a "lifetime writes" count. Anyone happen to know how to reset that counter? |
| 22:27.48 | herrkey | I didn't find it in the repos. |
| 22:27.56 | ToeTag | coolness |
| 22:28.06 | herrkey | They have the libc man pages in them too... |
| 22:28.07 | rudi_s | herrkey: :-/ - Ok, will check the sources. Thanks. |
| 22:28.41 | herrkey | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/ |
| 22:28.44 | themill | rudi_s: the iproute package from wheezy onwards has them |
| 22:29.09 | rudi_s | themill: Ah, great. Thank you (still on squeeze here). |
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| 22:29.40 | Devastator | for a package to go to squeeze-security, do I need to report a bug about it? I asked this before but I didn't got an answer, unless I missed it heh |
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| 22:32.36 | nsadmin | Devastator, a package won't go there, the security people will fix it |
| 22:33.03 | nsadmin | to let them know, file a bug... if you have a fix, include a .diff |
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| 22:34.44 | Devastator | nsadmin actually I was talking to ntp folks, they say 4.2.6p2 which is in squeeze, miss a few security patches and some other enhancements, they recommend 4.2.6p5 which is latest stable.. but then I don't know if worth reporting |
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| 22:35.56 | themill | Devastator: check whether those patches are actually there first |
| 22:36.34 | Devastator | themill in 4.2.6p5? according to ntp folks, yes |
| 22:36.42 | themill | dpkg: tell Devastator about security backports |
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| 22:40.20 | Devastator | themill thanks, I will show them this: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/ntp and see if the security patches were these ones |
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| 22:54.52 | AbsintheSyringe | just wondering, does anyone else have problem with google talk plugin not working amd64 architecture (Sid in my case, but same situation is on Wheezy) |
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| 22:56.03 | Devastator | as I verified, I can backport ntp from sid, after backporting libssl-dev and autogen (according to judd), but that would only solve things for me, I want to think as a benefit to all, assuming 4.2.6p2 doesn't have the patches |
| 22:56.13 | nemo | AbsintheSyringe: well. not on debian right now, but works fine on my SO's 64 bit ubuntu machine... |
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| 22:58.22 | AbsintheSyringe | that's weird |
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| 23:01.42 | crypticmofo | so i instaleld bootlogd right .. according to http://wiki.debian.org/bootlogd i need to edit /etc/default/bootlogd .. at this point i see no /etc/default/bootlogd so im wondering is there a command that can show after i did aptitude install bootlogd what exactly what was installed and where did all the files install to |
| 23:02.02 | crypticmofo | im looking at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_advanced_package_management_operations also |
| 23:02.22 | crypticmofo | dpkg -L |
| 23:02.22 | dpkg | Files in package crypticmofo-pr0n: /srv/crypticmofo-pr0n/crypticmofo.jpg |
| 23:02.26 | crypticmofo | o_O |
| 23:02.35 | crypticmofo | huh lol |
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| 23:03.27 | nsadmin | as if you couldn't get enough out of yourself before... |
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| 23:07.37 | mh_le | is it possible to install debian in a box without a monitor? |
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| 23:08.47 | abrotman | !tell mh_le about ssh install |
| 23:08.49 | Brigo | mh_le: yes, but uneasy. |
| 23:09.08 | Brigo | !tell brigo about ssh install |
| 23:09.44 | Brigo | abrotman: interesting ... |
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| 23:11.16 | mh_le | abrotman: thanks |
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| 23:12.51 | simplew | dondelelcaro: uupdate isnt bale to manage tar.xz compression? |
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| 23:14.44 | nsadmin | bale? |
| 23:14.57 | nsadmin | xz? |
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| 23:23.25 | mh_le | I'm trying to install debian from the netinstall iso, but it seems unable to find a mirror to install from, how do I set that up in the installer? |
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| 23:24.06 | satwood | is there any adv/disadv between 32 bit and 64 bit debian ? |
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| 23:27.31 | EmleyMoor | satwood: 64 bit can address more memory |
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| 23:27.46 | satwood | EmleyMoor: any other difference ? |
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| 23:27.55 | EmleyMoor | satwood: It is said to run more slowly though... |
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| 23:28.32 | EmleyMoor | I use 64 bit - I consider it more "future-proof" |
| 23:28.40 | satwood | EmleyMoor: i see, i didn't know or expect that, are there any known benchmarks, or why is this the case ? its a huge thing if it is slower |
| 23:28.51 | satwood | i got the future-proof |
| 23:28.57 | nsadmin | mh_le, what are you using for a net connection |
| 23:29.19 | EmleyMoor | satwood: There's not said to be a lot in it - and I've not done, or read about, any specific tests |
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| 23:29.41 | satwood | EmleyMoor: ok |
| 23:29.49 | satwood | are packages equally widely available ? |
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| 23:30.35 | EmleyMoor | satwood: These days, 64 bit has most packages and if it doesn't have one you need, 32 bit packages can be installed |
| 23:31.04 | satwood | EmleyMoor: you mean 32 bit package can be installed on a 64 bit debian ? |
| 23:31.13 | EmleyMoor | satwood: Yes. |
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| 23:37.54 | chovy | i rebooted my computer after a power outage and now it is stuck at GRUB |
| 23:38.19 | chovy | it isn't a grub> prompt, it just says "GRUB" in the upper left corner. |
| 23:38.57 | Brigo | chovy: it looks like a disk corruption. You need to reinstall from a rescue or install disk. |
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| 23:41.11 | chovy | i don't have one of those |
| 23:41.36 | ompaul | get one |
| 23:41.41 | chovy | where |
| 23:41.57 | ompaul | some pal with a working computer |
| 23:42.07 | LtL | chovy: how did you install in the first place? |
| 23:42.47 | chovy | ok, so install from cd you're saying? |
| 23:42.57 | LtL | chovy: yes |
| 23:43.04 | ompaul | or get a rescue disk and see if you can fsck it |
| 23:43.46 | LtL | chovy: the cd is your last option, try to save data but you'll need disks/tools |
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| 23:44.12 | chovy | where do i get a rescue disk? |
| 23:44.20 | ompaul | chovy: you are on the internet now - download to that computer |
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| 23:44.25 | beardy | !rescue |
| 23:44.25 | dpkg | rescue is, like, at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?"). Ask me about <rescue mode>. See also <fixmbr> and <i forgot root's password>. |
| 23:44.42 | LtL | chovy: this is something one should _always_ anticipate. |
| 23:44.47 | nsadmin | netinstalls can function as rescue disks |
| 23:45.12 | beardy | Debian Live also, or any other bootable thing with suitable tools. |
| 23:46.40 | nsadmin | also note that a rescue disk needs support for mounting any of your partitions |
| 23:46.59 | chovy | is there a guide somewhere i can follow. It's been 5 years since I installed debian from cd. |
| 23:47.17 | Devastator | chovy beardy just showed you |
| 23:47.18 | nsadmin | and tools to deal with whatever that is (raid, lvm, both, encryption, any combination, more probably too) |
| 23:47.18 | ompaul | see the FAQ you were pointed at |
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| 23:49.13 | chovy | what is d-i? |
| 23:49.23 | nsadmin | debian-installer |
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| 23:50.01 | nsadmin | it includes the installer itself and tools for putting together other forms of installer |
| 23:50.04 | chovy | that faq is useless |
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| 23:50.48 | nsadmin | ok, is that because it didn't give you the information you want? or you didn't read far enough? |
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| 23:53.57 | simplew | how can i import from a src.rpm to createa a debian package? |
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| 23:54.18 | chovy | so i need to make a bootable cd i guess |
| 23:54.21 | chovy | and re-install debian |
| 23:54.24 | abrotman | simplew: alien, if you're lucky |
| 23:54.26 | chovy | is there a guide for that? |
| 23:54.35 | chovy | i can't find where to download |
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| 23:54.56 | abrotman | man alient ? |
| 23:54.58 | abrotman | -t |
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| 23:55.17 | chovy | you can't be serious 52 cds? |
| 23:55.21 | chovy | i only had one last time |
| 23:55.31 | nsadmin | chovy, just the netinstall for your arch |
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| 23:55.51 | nsadmin | write it to a cd or usb, make sure your bios can boot that, try |
| 23:55.53 | chovy | how can i do net install if i don't have a working computer? |
| 23:56.15 | nsadmin | if you don't have a working computer it doesn't make sense to install anything on it |
| 23:56.25 | simplew | abrotman: but im referring to source rpm, alien can also do it? |
| 23:56.50 | chovy | net needs network no? |
| 23:56.59 | chovy | i always thought that's what "net" means |
| 23:57.02 | nsadmin | not for the base and installer |
| 23:57.12 | abrotman | simplew: ah, sorry, just for binary AFAIK .. why not just compile it or use stow/checkinstall or create your own package |
| 23:57.55 | simplew | abrotman: i have the source rpm packages that already did |
| 23:58.13 | nsadmin | chovy, what has you interested in debian today? |
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| 23:59.00 | chovy | nsadmin: trying to recover it |
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| 23:59.21 | nsadmin | so you installed debian before? |
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