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| 00:06.22 | lidar | MoTec: complimentary of course http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+sftp+chroot |
| 00:06.54 | everence | I've decided to wise-up and rebuild my server on Debian, moving from Opensuse. I'm working on systemd unit files. |
| 00:06.58 | everence | When stopping a service with "systemctl stop myapp.service", it stops as expected, but in my log I see: "systemd[1]: Unit myapp.service entered failed state." |
| 00:07.06 | everence | Is that the normal/expected message? 'failed' sounds like an *error*. |
| 00:07.48 | lidar | did you write the start stop script yourself? |
| 00:08.13 | everence | lidar: This one I'm working on, yes. Trying to get the hang of this. |
| 00:08.55 | lidar | i think last time i made one was like 8 years ago for slackware |
| 00:09.12 | lidar | i might not be much help |
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| 00:11.59 | everence | lidar: The documentation here in Debian-land for server-side stuff is SO much better. I'm guessing the 'normal' log entries are somewhere in the docs/forums/etc. Just haven't found it yet -- still stumbling around trying to find everything @ the Debian site. |
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| 00:12.42 | lidar | debian is the best server distro i think |
| 00:12.59 | phix | s/i think// |
| 00:13.39 | MoTec | Installing one now.. I'll let you know what I think in 18 months :) |
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| 00:14.45 | everence | Opensuse has a *RELEASE* coming out in 5-ish day, they're switching to systemd as default, release notes say sysvinit is 'broken', but their docs are 2 releases bahind, and no longer accurate, stuff's broken right-n-left, and the answer you get -- we'll fix it AFTER the release. |
| 00:14.48 | everence | Boggles the mind. |
| 00:15.12 | hitest | yeah |
| 00:15.25 | MoTec | I'm just installing a simple sftp server. Should be cake. |
| 00:16.00 | lidar | i went from suse to debian way back in the day yast made me angry overwriting custom configs |
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| 00:18.03 | MoTec | Installing on Hyper-V tho. We'll see how *that* goes |
| 00:18.12 | everence | lidar: I actually like the distro for many things -- desktop. For server, you bust your hump trying to find/explain/fix stuff, and you get abused for it. God forbid you mention 'Debian does it right', then you get accused of "threatening" to leave. Taking pride in their own inadequacy. Breathtaking. |
| 00:18.31 | everence | Yes, yes <rant></rant> |
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| 00:40.53 | Sbobb | Hi |
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| 01:02.53 | MoTec | Wow.. That was amazingly easy to set up and it worked right the first time! I almost feel guilty bidding six hours on this. lol |
| 01:03.02 | MoTec | Meh, he's a good client. I'll charge 2 :) |
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| 01:05.41 | MoTec | Just replaced an old FTP server with a shineh new SFTP server.. Go go HIPPA compliance! |
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| 01:06.16 | sney | sftp is so much better anyway |
| 01:07.06 | MoTec | Yeah.. No active/passive issues with NAT and firewalls. Lots of good stuff. |
| 01:07.50 | MoTec | Oh, fail, lol.. I can't send files.. permission denied. I guess because the directory is owned by root.. Hmm. |
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| 01:12.24 | LinuxGuy2009 | Hello I recently purchased a new laptop. Squeeze does not work with the sound or wireless. I installed wheezy testing and everything works with maybe one package needing to be installed for wireless and thats it. But it freezes randomly. So I would love to get stable working on it. Would a simple backported kernel be enough and maybe a backported firmware package for the wireless? |
| 01:14.15 | nvz | LinuxGuy2009: probably |
| 01:14.17 | sney | LinuxGuy2009: yeah, there's a fair chance of that. the kmuto squeeze installers include both |
| 01:14.50 | LinuxGuy2009 | sney: Never heard of the kmuto squeeze installer. What is that exactly? |
| 01:14.52 | sney | that freezing behaviour should be reported, though |
| 01:15.18 | sney | it's a custom netinstall made by a debian developer |
| 01:15.20 | sney | !kmuto |
| 01:15.21 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 3.2.4) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
| 01:15.31 | LinuxGuy2009 | Oh ok I see. |
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| 01:16.28 | nvz | LinuxGuy2009: Kenshi Muto is the debian hardware guy.. he maintains backported kernels, the debian hardware compatibility list and all that good stuff |
| 01:17.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | So I could just download the appropriate image and add the needed packages directly off the disk as a package source? |
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| 01:18.12 | nvz | LinuxGuy2009: what wireless card do you have? |
| 01:18.38 | nvz | mine is a broadcom I had to use wheezy broadcom-sta for it to work |
| 01:18.51 | LinuxGuy2009 | Intel Centrino 2230 |
| 01:19.13 | sney | yeah that should be fine with just the bpo kernel |
| 01:19.59 | nvz | LinuxGuy2009: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
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| 01:20.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok cool. Do these CD images contain actual package files that I can just burn it and add it to my Squeeze repository DVD set? |
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| 01:22.45 | LinuxGuy2009 | I'll just have to try it and see. Thanks for the help I appreciate it! |
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| 01:35.03 | ManoftheSea | Hi debian. I'd like some help recovering a hard drive. So I'm using gddrescue on an LVM on LUKS. |
| 01:35.27 | ManoftheSea | (luckily, disk doesn't seem to be getting worse, and the cryptsetup wasn't damage. The LVM may have been. |
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| 01:36.01 | ManoftheSea | anyway, The recovered file seems to not agree with the length of the filesystem (ext4) |
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| 01:36.22 | ManoftheSea | So... would resize2fs damage the filesystem any worse than it already is? |
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| 01:36.53 | nvz | depends on what you plan on doing with it |
| 01:37.00 | ManoftheSea | ( stupid disk seems to have corrupted right in the middle of my /home partition. My unused VM? 3k in 20GB bad.) |
| 01:37.22 | ManoftheSea | nvz, I'm ddrescue'ing the lvm to a file. |
| 01:37.30 | nvz | sounds horrible though I'd be having a panic attack right about now and wishing I was the kind of person who kept backups |
| 01:37.48 | ManoftheSea | I'm then copying the file, and trying to use resize2fs and e2fsck. |
| 01:37.57 | nvz | thats why I used LVM for a week then ran away screaming :-P |
| 01:38.24 | ManoftheSea | Right now, ddrescue says 17973 recovered, 3501MB still to recover |
| 01:38.36 | ManoftheSea | nvz you blame LVM? |
| 01:38.51 | ManoftheSea | I have backups of important stuff. But my 20 GB of porn |
| 01:38.57 | ManoftheSea | I mean... financial documents. |
| 01:38.57 | nvz | I'm just saying the extra layers of obfustication make recovery far more complicated |
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| 01:39.34 | ManoftheSea | Eh. I've recovered most of the things that would be annoying to set up. |
| 01:39.40 | nvz | and I am not the type to have backups.. I've always had luck getting stuff off just plain filesystems on one drive |
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| 01:39.45 | ManoftheSea | My Evolution config, my ssh rsa key/config |
| 01:40.14 | ManoftheSea | well, resize2fs works... I just don't quite know why the file and filesystem don't agree. |
| 01:40.37 | ManoftheSea | so... I guess I jsut want you (plural Debian) to wave a magic want and fix the disk. |
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| 01:40.59 | nvz | well you know there are often file size differences on different filesystems |
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| 01:41.31 | nvz | but if you're mounting it and the size doesnt agree, then yeah its messed up |
| 01:41.42 | nvz | could just be that data not recovered if the numbers line up |
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| 01:44.32 | ManoftheSea | hmm, could be. |
| 01:44.37 | ManoftheSea | Okay. |
| 01:44.47 | ManoftheSea | Also, Dell uses non-standard disk sized. Screw Dell |
| 01:44.47 | nvz | resizing at that point wont help you |
| 01:44.53 | nvz | by the sound of it |
| 01:45.04 | nvz | if you can get to whats there, then thats what you got |
| 01:45.08 | nvz | heh |
| 01:46.25 | nvz | I was referring to the fact that the size of any given file and its size on a disk varies based on the filesystem storing it |
| 01:47.13 | nvz | due to block size and whatnot.. large files can often take up more size on disk than many small files |
| 01:47.17 | peterrooney | Wasn't Dell the company that used breakingly non-standard voltages in ATX form factor power supplies? |
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| 01:47.34 | nvz | I think compaq did it as well and others |
| 01:47.42 | nvz | seems to help keep mobos proprietary |
| 01:48.13 | peterrooney | nvz, and burnt out after an upgrade. |
| 01:48.14 | nvz | I had a client with an HP with a non standard ps and the board would cost like $250 or so aftermarket |
| 01:48.42 | nvz | it was far cheaper to get an equiv barebone off the internet and transfer what was still good to new machine |
| 01:49.50 | nvz | I think I managed to swap board and ps with even a new cpu for under $100 at the time |
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| 01:50.47 | nvz | I did try on that board actually I believe, to replace the capacitors as thats often what happens.. but had no luck there replaced a dozen after doing ESR diagnostics then fired it up and tested again and a dozen new ones were below spec |
| 01:51.22 | nvz | I had this wild idea that with the right equipment you could make a buck in some cases just repairing bad hardware.. but its harder than you think.. hah |
| 01:51.49 | nvz | finding the right capacitors was REAL difficult.. |
| 01:53.02 | peterrooney | nvz: Television and VCR repair are dead, due to consumers making primary concern units with lowest purchase price. |
| 01:54.01 | nvz | peterrooney: hah, yeah well there are cases where hardware is highly proprietary and after awhile even the 3rd party retailers dont have parts, and you could in theory make money fixing them as they have common issues |
| 01:55.10 | nvz | peterrooney: the voltage regulator that takes that 12v and makes that nice clean 1.8v or w/e for the cpu craps out cause the cpu heatsink has been boiling them caps and they cost pennies to replace |
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| 01:56.21 | peterrooney | ...we have now gone far off topic... |
| 01:56.30 | nvz | true story |
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| 02:57.08 | nv | its getting to the point where its not even always worth it to repair anything |
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| 03:01.10 | SmashingX | I can't share one folder with another computer in my network the other computer has windows, how can I do that? |
| 03:02.08 | nv | you need to set up a samba share |
| 03:02.19 | SmashingX | how could I that? |
| 03:06.20 | jagginess | SmashingX, a windows desktop cannot use different credentials to the same smb server ("one ms windows desktop") |
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| 03:18.20 | Rotaerk | hmm what is the recommended way of using 32-bit software in amd64 debian these days? |
| 03:18.29 | Rotaerk | is it still ia32-libs or chroot approach? |
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| 03:18.48 | Rotaerk | the chroot approach seems cleaner... as I understand it |
| 03:19.08 | Rotaerk | assuming I don't have multiarch support (since I'm still using squeeze) |
| 03:19.19 | bnw | What's the difference between http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ and the media in the gtk sub-directory? |
| 03:20.17 | Rotaerk | most of the resources I find on the web about running 32-bit stuff on amd64 ... is from 2007 at latest |
| 03:20.26 | Rotaerk | which makes me wonder if there's something more recent I should be using |
| 03:23.39 | jagginess | Rotaerk, no there's multiarch, ia32-libs is now integrated |
| 03:23.47 | jagginess | Rotaerk, but not as that package |
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| 03:24.34 | jagginess | !multiarch |
| 03:24.34 | dpkg | Debian is working towards the ability to install packages from one architecture on a machine that is running a different architecture. This makes i386/amd64 issues simpler (no more ia32-libs!), helps tag firmware blobs with the correct arch and allows easier cross-compiling and bootstrapping. Multiarch support is a release goal for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
| 03:24.49 | Rotaerk | I'm aware of multiarch, but it's for wheezy and above only |
| 03:24.53 | Rotaerk | and I'm using stable |
| 03:25.00 | Rotaerk | or is that wrong |
| 03:25.08 | lidar | hi everyone |
| 03:25.41 | lidar | Rotaerk: is it your personal desktop ? |
| 03:25.51 | Rotaerk | yes |
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| 03:26.36 | Rotaerk | "is that wrong" was with regards to whether I am wrong that multiarch is wheezy+ only |
| 03:26.46 | lidar | Rotaerk: i dont know your expierence level but testing works fine for desktops ..most of the serious are worked out before testing \ |
| 03:27.03 | lidar | bugs* |
| 03:27.09 | Rotaerk | hmm I briefly tried testing, but it doesn't have the ATI proprietary drivers |
| 03:27.23 | Rotaerk | which I need |
| 03:27.40 | lidar | if they work on stable you can make them work on testing |
| 03:28.26 | Rotaerk | that'd mean mixing stable and testing, haven't done mixing of branches like that before.. |
| 03:28.59 | Rotaerk | although it's not in stable either, exactly; the drivers I'm using are from stable backports |
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| 03:33.10 | lidar | Rotaerk: in my case with nvidia drivers i alwasy compiled my own kernel then used installer from website |
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| 04:13.27 | Rotaerk | hmm if I upgrade to Wheezy, I would expect it to upgrade everything from Squeeze, but does it automatically handle Squeeze-Backports too? |
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| 04:14.46 | sney | Rotaerk: yes, it works on version numbers, not repositories |
| 04:14.53 | Rotaerk | k |
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| 04:28.37 | samul | Help Nvidia GT440 driver |
| 04:29.08 | samul | I have install nvidia-glx 302.17-3 |
| 04:31.31 | samul | the problem is that when I logout, the screen will be lost and show black with little scrap words |
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| 04:33.09 | gnarface | samul: the whole 300 series is fucked and currently broken in various ways in wheezy and sid. i recommend you roll back to one of the 295 drivers (use pliers if necessary) i'm currently evaluating 295.71 to see if its got the horrible memory leaks in opengl mode that started noticing |
| 04:33.31 | gnarface | samul: *that i started noticing |
| 04:33.45 | gnarface | samul: 302 but weren't fixed in 304 |
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| 04:40.37 | samul | gnarface: I have test NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.59.run |
| 04:40.53 | samul | gnarface: but nothing changed |
| 04:41.30 | samul | gnarface: I download it from nvidia's website. |
| 04:41.34 | gnarface | samul: hmm. you did a full shutdown after your last driver install right? |
| 04:42.25 | gnarface | samul: sounds weird maybe you have forgotten to reboot or maybe you have very new hardware that is not yet supported? |
| 04:42.29 | samul | I have reboot system for several times. I can't remember if I had restart right after installation. |
| 04:42.41 | samul | gnarface: I have reboot system for several times. I can't remember if I had restart right after installation. |
| 04:43.00 | gnarface | samul: maybe you have some console framebuffer driver interfering somehow? |
| 04:43.19 | samul | I use debian testing. |
| 04:43.38 | gnarface | samul: you mean that the login prompt is completely gone after you log out? there is no mouse cursor either? |
| 04:43.45 | samul | console framebuffer? how to chech that? |
| 04:43.59 | gnarface | samul: pastebin lsmod |
| 04:44.23 | gnarface | Sami345: lsmod |
| 04:44.26 | samul | gnarface: yes. it splash little white spark. |
| 04:44.27 | gnarface | samul: lsmod |
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| 04:45.44 | Gr33n3gg | strange, I have two installations of gcc |
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| 04:46.01 | Gr33n3gg | one in /usr/bin, the other in /usr/local/lib/cw/ |
| 04:47.05 | samul | gnarface: http://pastebin.com/6mBRFLrq |
| 04:47.39 | monsuco | Hiya, I recently installed Squeeze with Gnome on my Dell Inspiron N7010 and it's working pretty well now that I have fglrx and broadcom STA drivers working. I'm having one small problem though, when I put the laptop to sleep, it never wakes up. |
| 04:47.50 | monsuco | Any ideas? |
| 04:48.48 | gnarface | monsuco: i thought i heard you needed catalyst drivers to fix that on new laptops with hybrid graphics. is that such a laptop? |
| 04:48.52 | Gr33n3gg | oh, nevermind |
| 04:49.34 | monsuco | umm how can I tell? |
| 04:49.53 | monsuco | On Ubuntu, I used to use fglrx drivers. |
| 04:50.02 | gnarface | samul: well i don't see nouveau and nothing else really stands out to me as suspicious except this: iTCO_vendor_support 12704 1 iTCO_wdt (because i don't recognize it) |
| 04:50.23 | gnarface | monsuco: oh then it might just be an issue of having the right version of the drivers |
| 04:50.45 | gnarface | monsuco: or of X |
| 04:50.54 | gnarface | monsuco: (or both) |
| 04:51.04 | gnarface | monsuco: but it may be unrelated to the video entirely i was just guessing |
| 04:51.12 | monsuco | Do those ATI drivers tend to cause wake issues? |
| 04:51.15 | samul | gnarface: ldd /usr/lib/nvidia/current/nvidia_drv.so |
| 04:51.16 | samul | linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff2dfff000) |
| 04:51.16 | samul | libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007facfcfed000) |
| 04:51.16 | samul | libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007facfcc66000) |
| 04:51.16 | samul | libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007facfca61000) |
| 04:51.18 | samul | /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007facfdc35000) |
| 04:51.24 | gnarface | samul: don't paste in-channel |
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| 04:52.21 | gnarface | monsuco: i wasn't under the impression that it was "cause" as much as "fail to properly support their latest hardware" |
| 04:52.28 | samul | I don't know what you say ( nouveau ?) |
| 04:52.42 | gnarface | samul: what is your hardware? |
| 04:52.47 | monsuco | well, this laptop's a few years old. I doubt it's their "latest" hardware. |
| 04:53.07 | samul | dell optiplex 790 + nvidia GT 440 |
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| 04:53.26 | gnarface | oh gt 44 |
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| 04:53.45 | gnarface | samul: gt 440 is that like, several years old? 32 or 128mb of ram maybe? |
| 04:54.02 | samul | gnarface: debian testing x64 |
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| 04:54.42 | samul | gnarface: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 440] (rev a1) |
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| 04:55.45 | samul | gnarface: it should have more than 512MB memory |
| 04:56.08 | gnarface | samul: oh i was thinking maybe of MX 440 |
| 04:56.31 | gnarface | samul: nouveau are alternate, open-source drivers for your video card (not provided by nvidia) |
| 04:56.39 | gnarface | samul: sometimes they conflict |
| 04:57.12 | gnarface | samul: there are 304.xx drivers now... i had problems with them on amd64 but they might be worth your trouble |
| 04:57.37 | gnarface | samul: also the nouveau drivers may fix your problem and you may like them better (but they do not play starcraft 2) |
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| 04:59.56 | gnarface | monsuco: i recommend you check the versions of the kernel, fglrx, Xorg and whatever else seems relevant (the filesystem maybe) that you used on ubuntu against the versions you have on debian. |
| 04:59.58 | samul | gnarface: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau? I have install that package. So I only need to revise the xorg.conf with driver name nouveau? |
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| 05:01.06 | gnarface | samul: uh.... yes, basically. but keep in mind that the nvidia driver provides a lot of non-standard options that you may also be using in your xorg.conf that nouveau will not recognize. you may have to do more than just swap the word "nvidia" for "nouveau" |
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| 05:01.26 | Rotaerk | hmm should all custom-installed modules that built with your kernel's headers be uninstalled before upgrading to Wheezy from Squeeze, and reinstalled afterward |
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| 05:02.06 | gnarface | Rotaerk: did you read the release notes? |
| 05:02.28 | Rotaerk | for what |
| 05:02.36 | samul | gnarface: I have been anoying with this problem for weeks. I will test it first. Thanks. bye! |
| 05:02.47 | gnarface | Rotaerk: oh maybe there aren't any. hmm |
| 05:03.23 | Rotaerk | also what about modules that were in squeeze but not wheezy |
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| 05:03.27 | Rotaerk | such as ATI proprietary |
| 05:03.47 | monsuco | umm, I'm not multibooting. I replaced Ubuntu with Debian. Ubuntu had its own issues. |
| 05:04.33 | gnarface | monsuco: i'm sure the versions are documented online somewhere |
| 05:04.47 | gnarface | monsuco: if you wiped your ubuntu partition already i'm certain its not the last copy that existed |
| 05:05.22 | gnarface | Rotaerk: i'm not sure. the ati proprietary module isn't in wheezy? |
| 05:05.28 | gnarface | ,versions fglrx-driver |
| 05:05.29 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:8-12-4; lenny-backports/non-free: 1:10-4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3; sid/non-free: 1:12-6+point-1; experimental/non-free: 1:12-6+point-1+exp1 |
| 05:05.35 | gnarface | huh |
| 05:05.52 | gnarface | Rotaerk: maybe check backports or backport it from sid? |
| 05:06.17 | monsuco | hmm, I guess I'll have to check |
| 05:08.31 | gnarface | dpkg, tell Rotaerk about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 05:10.28 | Rotaerk | gnarface, dpkg's instructions are pretty standard |
| 05:10.50 | Rotaerk | I'm just concerned about manually-installed packages having dependencies on things that will be removed/upgraded in the transition |
| 05:11.04 | gnarface | Rotaerk: i meant more the last sentence in that bit |
| 05:11.06 | Rotaerk | especially kernel modules which are built using specific headers |
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| 05:11.28 | sney | Rotaerk: anything that was built with dkms will be fine as long as the header packages are installed. anything that you installed yourself manually is your own problem |
| 05:11.43 | Rotaerk | hmm k |
| 05:11.44 | sney | Rotaerk: but, generally, debian supports all of its own infrastructure through dist-upgrades. |
| 05:12.14 | Rotaerk | fortunately I only have one manually-installed package |
| 05:12.23 | sney | it may help to make sure the header packages are installed prior to running the dist-upgrade. |
| 05:12.25 | Rotaerk | though it's dkms-based |
| 05:12.29 | Rotaerk | (flashcache) |
| 05:12.54 | Rotaerk | hmm k, aptitude upgrade, install headers, dist-upgrade |
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| 05:33.18 | samul | gnarface: hello. I have test nouveau driver and lost the X window. log in http://pastebin.com/eJ4xgBgA |
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| 05:34.08 | samul | gnarface: seems that xwindow client and server cannot connect each other. |
| 05:34.43 | samul | gnarface: I have update-alternative-glx and set as doc instruction. |
| 05:35.11 | gnarface | samul: i'm not sure what you did to test it but you would have to have exited X and made sure to unload the nvidia driver |
| 05:35.28 | gnarface | samul: you can not have the nvidia module loaded and the nouveau module loaded at the same time |
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| 05:36.38 | samul | I have shutdown the computer. |
| 05:37.11 | gnarface | samul: your paste is meaningless to me. paste lsmod |
| 05:37.25 | samul | gnarface: shutdown -h now. complete |
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| 05:37.59 | samul | gnarface: [ 21.408] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: undefined symbol: miEmptyData |
| 05:38.03 | samul | [ 21.408] (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7) |
| 05:38.14 | samul | gnarface: maybe this is useful. |
| 05:38.22 | samul | from Xorg.1.log |
| 05:38.24 | gnarface | samul: are you trying to use a compositing window manager ? |
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| 05:38.37 | samul | gnarface: only gnome3 |
| 05:39.06 | gnarface | samul: nouveau does not have glx |
| 05:39.15 | gnarface | samul: you will not be able to do any 3d |
| 05:40.01 | gnarface | samul: also the fact that is named Xorg.1.log suggests to me you didn't close your other X instance. probably neither of these drivers will work if you run more than one instance of Xorg |
| 05:40.41 | nv | okay im off |
| 05:40.51 | nv | can some one pass along this message? |
| 05:40.59 | samul | gnarface: grep nouv /var/log/Xorg.1.log |
| 05:40.59 | samul | [ 21.408] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau" |
| 05:41.10 | nv | obiwahn>could someboy please tell nitrohax to look at GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX |
| 05:41.11 | samul | [ 21.408] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so |
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| 05:42.32 | nv | if nitrohax comes back, have him look at GRUB_GRXPAYLOAD_LINUX |
| 05:43.07 | samul | gnarface: I don't know what you mean to close the X server. I do the command "shutdown -h now" complete and the power on. |
| 05:43.39 | gnarface | samul: are you using a graphical login manager, or do you log in in text and run 'startx' ? |
| 05:43.59 | samul | gnarface: there are over one hundred xorg logs |
| 05:44.12 | samul | gnarface: gdm3 |
| 05:44.19 | gnarface | samul: what?! |
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| 05:44.40 | gnarface | samul: did you uninstall nvidia? |
| 05:44.46 | samul | gnarface: Xorg.129.log |
| 05:45.08 | samul | gnarface: I didn't do that. |
| 05:45.30 | samul | gnarface: I must keep the ability to be back |
| 05:45.36 | gnarface | samul: probably nvidia already started an xorg server because you have gdm3. if you had pasted lsmod like i'd asked you to, we'd probably see that nvidia module loaded still |
| 05:46.24 | gnarface | samul: i've already told you that the nvidia module and the nouveau module conflict. you can NOT successfully use them both at once. what you are trying to do is impossible. do you understand? |
| 05:47.05 | lidar | time to blacklist one of them |
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| 05:48.22 | jmd | Is there a standard path to put my firewall config script or should I just put it whereever I think fit? |
| 05:50.05 | gnarface | jmd: if you're just running iptables you mean from a bash script you wrote by hand? |
| 05:50.20 | gnarface | jmd: i'd put it in /usr/local/sbin |
| 05:50.57 | jmd | gnarface, and how would you start it? |
| 05:51.28 | gnarface | jmd: from /etc/rc.local, or from an init script in /etc/init.d |
| 05:51.45 | jmd | Obviously it should run BEFORE the interfaces are started. |
| 05:52.10 | gnarface | if its starting up on a hostile network, that might be useful, yes |
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| 05:53.08 | gnarface | obviously if you need it to start before the network then you should start it from an init script and make sure you do the LSB(?) headers right |
| 05:53.33 | jmd | LSB ? |
| 05:53.42 | gnarface | jmd: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/ |
| 05:54.01 | gnarface | jmd: dependency-based booting is the new black |
| 05:54.38 | gnarface | jmd: allows for multi-core systems to boot faster by using all cores |
| 05:54.51 | jmd | Ok Thanks for the advice. |
| 05:55.01 | gnarface | good luck |
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| 07:46.33 | fvahid | hello all |
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| 07:47.27 | fvahid | in stable debian when run this command no output present to me |
| 07:47.28 | fvahid | xm pci-list-assignable-devices |
| 07:47.28 | fvahid | how to resolve this issue |
| 07:47.31 | fvahid | please help me |
| 07:48.30 | nsadmin | fvahid what are you trying to do (in descriptive english text please, not commands) |
| 07:49.12 | fvahid | nsadmin: i want pass PCI device into xen guest |
| 07:49.28 | fvahid | http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenPCIpassthrough |
| 07:49.30 | fvahid | in this instruction |
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| 07:50.01 | nsadmin | oh ok, isn't there a file that describes how to start the guest? |
| 07:50.14 | fvahid | nsadmin: in xen guest (debian box) when run lspci no output |
| 07:50.34 | fvahid | xm create -c /etc/xen/foo.cfg |
| 07:50.51 | nsadmin | pastebin /etc/xen/foo.cfg |
| 07:51.19 | fvahid | nsadmin: sure |
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| 07:52.51 | nsadmin | maybe it's in that file you can say what pci devices are exposed. and, it may be complex what is to be exposed (mem sections, irq, some other things) to share pci devices |
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| 07:54.19 | fvahid | nsadmin: this issue don't related with guest |
| 07:54.25 | fvahid | nsadmin: and config file |
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| 07:55.06 | nsadmin | so then, are pci devices to be shared, become exposed to all guests |
| 07:55.07 | fvahid | nsadmin: in the instruction said you must have xen-pcifront and xen-pciback |
| 07:55.10 | nsadmin | ? |
| 07:55.26 | fvahid | nsadmin: howto share pci device? |
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| 07:56.45 | nsadmin | well I did install xen4 recently... haven't actually started my guest yet |
| 07:57.09 | fvahid | nsadmin: im using xen4 |
| 07:57.13 | nsadmin | and, never used xen-pcifront or back |
| 07:57.31 | nsadmin | but it sounds like you're getting close |
| 07:57.44 | fvahid | so how to your guest identify pci |
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| 07:58.05 | fvahid | ? |
| 07:58.06 | nsadmin | well my guests don't need devices |
| 07:58.18 | fvahid | :(( |
| 07:58.35 | fvahid | why??????????????????????????????? |
| 07:58.46 | nsadmin | also, I don't have xen-pci{front,back} where are they? |
| 07:58.54 | simonlnu | !ep |
| 07:58.55 | dpkg | Please stop using excessive punctuation. One exclamation point, question mark, period, ellipsis, comma, hyphen or interrobang is more than sufficient. Using excess punctuation means that you're more likely to be ignored by those who actually can help you, as it makes it difficult to see what you're actually asking. Continued use of excessive punctuation may result in a ban. |
| 07:59.50 | fvahid | i don't know |
| 08:00.09 | nsadmin | inaccurate. "exactly sufficient" as "more than sufficient" implies the disallowing of any punctuation at all |
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| 08:00.47 | nsadmin | , file bin/xen-pcifront |
| 08:00.51 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 08:00.52 | Dovid | hi all. i am trying to reset a root password. i tried editing rub to go in t o single mode with init=/bin/bash and init=/bin/sh and that didnt work |
| 08:00.59 | simonlnu | notes nsadmin is welcome to modify the factoid |
| 08:01.10 | Dovid | each time it keeps booting. anything else i can do to get in to single mode and reset the root password? |
| 08:01.23 | nsadmin | let's try... |
| 08:01.41 | nsadmin | , file bin/xen-pcifront --arch=amd64 |
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| 08:01.46 | judd | No packages in squeeze/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 08:02.07 | fvahid | , file xen |
| 08:02.12 | judd | Search for xen in squeeze/i386: xen-utils-common: usr/sbin/cpuperf-xen; grub-common: etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen; dtc-xen: etc/init.d/dtc-xen, etc/logrotate.d/dtc-xen; imvirt: usr/lib/imvirt/xen; aide-xen: usr/share/lintian/overrides/aide-xen; libc6-xen: usr/share/doc/libc6-xen/test-results-i686-linux-gnu-xen, usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6-xen; cluster-agents: usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/Xen |
| 08:02.44 | simonlnu | ,file bin/xen-pcifront --release=unstable |
| 08:02.51 | judd | No packages in sid/i386 were found with that file. |
| 08:03.07 | Dovid | anyone? |
| 08:03.30 | fvahid | simonlnu: this is't software or exacutable file |
| 08:03.49 | fvahid | simonlnu: this is a modules or compile wiht kernel |
| 08:04.09 | fvahid | , modprobe |
| 08:04.47 | nsadmin | simonlnu, hmm... I've never heard of pcifront/back... you? could they be scripts that use the installed executables? |
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| 08:06.13 | simonlnu | nope. no idea... |
| 08:07.46 | nsadmin | oh, so they wouldn't be in any bin/ |
| 08:07.59 | nsadmin | ok. |
| 08:08.16 | nsadmin | , xen-pcifront |
| 08:08.19 | nsadmin | oops |
| 08:08.24 | nsadmin | , file xen-pcifront |
| 08:08.29 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
| 08:10.16 | nsadmin | maybe the evil witch google has something to say |
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| 08:10.47 | streuner_ | linux-image-3.2.0-3-686-pae: /lib/modules/3.2.0-3-686-pae/kernel/drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.ko |
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| 08:16.15 | nsadmin | yeah, found xen-pcifront.c |
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| 08:18.42 | nsadmin | streuner_, that confirms that something by that name is in debian |
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| 08:19.26 | nsadmin | and as fvahid says, it's not an executable |
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| 08:23.53 | fvahid | i want compile kernel and load xen-pciback and front |
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| 08:56.34 | gnarface | can anyone tell me how to configure iceweasel to use both my scroll wheels, but use one only for vertical scolling and one only for horizontal? |
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| 09:02.09 | blubberdiblub | gnarface, i don't think that's iceweasel specific. you'd probably have to configure Xorg to do that |
| 09:02.40 | gnarface | blubberdiblub: well the problem i have is that xev clearly shows my horizontal scroll wheel is being recognized, but basically that's the only proof i have that it is |
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| 09:03.16 | blubberdiblub | gnarface, okay, i see. then i misunderstood you, sorry |
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| 09:03.58 | Gr33n3gg | gnarface: is one scroll wheel on your keyboard or something? |
| 09:04.35 | blubberdiblub | gnarface, horizontal scrolling in iceweasel works for me, tho. but i don't have the same setup of input devices as you |
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| 09:06.08 | Xtreme | guys what is the name of the gnome application shortcut editor? |
| 09:06.10 | blubberdiblub | gnarface, maybe the mapping to buttons 6 and 7 is missing in your config |
| 09:06.17 | Xtreme | alcaterate or something |
| 09:06.43 | boudiccas | alacarte i think |
| 09:07.23 | Xtreme | boudiccas, yes, thanks :) |
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| 09:07.57 | Xtreme | i wanted to add IDEA to my applications.. but its a .sh file, not bin. so can i add it? |
| 09:08.10 | Xtreme | its not a script, its a application. |
| 09:08.20 | boudiccas | Xtreme: you're welcome |
| 09:09.20 | blubberdiblub | Xtreme, there's no real difference between an executable script and an executable binary from the user's point of view. you can usually use a script in most places where you can use a binary |
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| 09:09.58 | Xtreme | blubberdiblub, so nothing else to do in alacarte right? just the way i do it for bin |
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| 09:10.25 | blubberdiblub | Xtreme, i don't use gnome, so i can't help you with that. i can just give you a general hint |
| 09:10.47 | Xtreme | blubberdiblub, yup it works :) thanks |
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| 09:14.32 | a123 | help |
| 09:14.47 | a123 | help ~~~~~~ |
| 09:14.57 | a123 | -whois jserv |
| 09:15.06 | a123 | whois john galt |
| 09:15.23 | rgenito | how can i verify that my cron jobs are executing correctly? =[ |
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| 09:21.17 | Xtreme | rgenito, use fwrite in your cronjobs? |
| 09:24.27 | rgenito | Xtreme: thx ;( |
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| 09:28.23 | hellyeah | hey |
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| 09:29.02 | hellyeah | is it possible to take care of wireless problem like that. I dont have an ethernet cable so i plan to download all necessary component in windows then i configure it in debian |
| 09:29.09 | hellyeah | is it possible to work that out |
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| 09:36.07 | Ca11um | I've just installed Debian, but for some reason it installed GRUB to my USB (which I used to install), and not the HDD which Debian was installed to. I've done "apt-get install grub", and it upgraded to v2 (apparently) - how can I make GRUB take effect on the HDD? |
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| 09:59.31 | eFfeM | hi, I've been peeking in the policy manual but could not really find the answer to this one: I need to do some postinst configuration but only on the first install, what is the preferred way to do so |
| 10:01.21 | oufo | Ca11um, you're looking for "grub-install <device>" |
| 10:01.36 | Ca11um | How do I find out what device it is? |
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| 10:02.11 | oufo | what does the command mount return for /? |
| 10:03.41 | Ca11um | /dev/sda1 |
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| 10:03.59 | oufo | so the device is /dev/sda (without partition numbers) |
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| 10:07.38 | Ca11um | Thanks, oufa |
| 10:08.04 | Ca11um | Hm apparently it installed ext3 instead of ext4, is there really much performance loss? |
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| 10:09.01 | oufo | i'm not sure, but the fsck every 25 mounts is a pain in the ass with ext3 on big partitions |
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| 10:21.54 | thomaschaaf | Hey is there a way to get the label of a non mounted device? /dev/sdb1 is W95 FAT32 and I'd like to know the label of it to users can better select the correct device |
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| 10:24.32 | a123 | usb keyboard not working...... |
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| 10:25.20 | a123 | help me |
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| 10:26.25 | daimrod | thomaschaaf: dosfslabel |
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| 10:27.45 | daimrod | thomaschaaf: or blkid |
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| 10:28.26 | thomaschaaf | cool thanks :) |
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| 10:33.25 | ksuhku | Ca11um, it's very easy to convert ext3 to ext4 if you feel like it |
| 10:33.58 | ksuhku | the reverse is not possible on the other hand |
| 10:34.25 | ksuhku | !ext4 |
| 10:34.25 | dpkg | ext4 (fourth extended filesystem) supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents, available since Linux 2.6.28. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. ext4 is not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121) and not the default filesystem in Squeeze (Debian bug #603084). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 and #linuxfs on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 10:41.28 | Ca11um | gar... |
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| 10:41.57 | Ca11um | I'm connecting to my server via vsftpd, yet all I get is an apparent "/" listing, and there are no files or directories whatsoever |
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| 10:42.47 | a123 | well |
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| 10:43.18 | a123 | it seems you didn't finish vsftp config |
| 10:43.22 | a123 | clear |
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| 10:47.05 | Ca11um | a123, I just wrote it from scratch based on a tutorial |
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| 10:48.13 | Ca11um | http://pastebin.com/hypwVry6 |
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| 10:49.01 | Jaggz- | what tools can I use to see where packets are going? I have a system which is a bridge in a network, but a hit to port 80 is going to some system-unknown. I can see the packet in tcpdump on the bridge system, but it's as if it's going to an unknown machine on the lan (I've already checked them all and none of them show anything in tcpdump) |
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| 10:49.11 | Jaggz- | ebtables was used to set up the bridghing |
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| 10:49.39 | Jaggz- | arp -a only shows 2 entries.. unrelated to the hit. |
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| 10:52.32 | Jaggz- | I'm getting a webpage showing up and I don't know from where it's coming... |
| 10:52.39 | nsadmin | Jaggz-, heya... are you sure the arp entries don't go to the next place (maybe your gateway) along the path to where the hit came from? |
| 10:53.37 | Jaggz- | hey nsadmin :) I'm new to examining arp entries. arp -a only shows two IPs, the gateway (from where the packets came from) and our nameserver |
| 10:54.54 | Ca11um | Can i not get the system to recreate the default vsftpd config file? |
| 10:55.07 | Ca11um | Re-installing the package skips the config file for some reason |
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| 10:57.18 | Jaggz- | what if you remove the current vsftpd config file (or rename it)? |
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| 10:59.49 | Ca11um | Jaggz-, I deleted it, removed the package and then installed it again - the file still doesn't exist |
| 10:59.49 | drigollier | hi all |
| 11:00.28 | Jaggz- | purge it? |
| 11:00.38 | Ca11um | purge? |
| 11:01.40 | Ca11um | Ah there we go, thanks |
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| 11:03.30 | Jaggz- | I saw one packet come into the wrong system with the wrong IP address. That system doesn't have an interface setup (iptables) with that IP address |
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| 11:05.14 | Jaggz- | I can use .30 with a /27 right?? 0-31 with 31 as the netmask, 0 is the network, 1 is usually the gateway.. 30 is the max usable host |
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| 11:06.20 | CorpComp | I have come home from a long weekend to find my Apache2 server not working. I have asked in #httpd without success so thought I would try here. http://apaste.info/VWgl |
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| 11:08.04 | Jaggz- | corp, tail -n 0 -f * /path/to/apache2_logs/* |
| 11:08.32 | Jaggz- | then restart and .. maybe you'll see something useful .. not sure about this stuff at the top of your log yet |
| 11:08.39 | Jaggz- | at the top.. in your log. |
| 11:08.48 | Jaggz- | nsadmin: how have you been? |
| 11:10.13 | CorpComp | What I have pasted is what is at the bottom of the error log, and is what I see when I do tail -f the log file. |
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| 11:10.56 | Jaggz- | which log is this from? |
| 11:12.06 | CorpComp | /var/log/apache2/error.log |
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| 11:13.36 | Jaggz- | ps auxwf | grep apache |
| 11:13.42 | Jaggz- | it's not running is it? |
| 11:13.53 | Jaleks | how do i tell my X (with slim) to switch to console 7 on shutdown? currently i get to the empty console 1 instead of seeing the usual shutdown messages |
| 11:14.44 | CorpComp | root 11154 0.0 0.0 112312 836 pts/0 S+ 23:14 0:00 | \_ grep apache |
| 11:15.09 | Jaggz- | it should error if the port was used so we probably don't need to look at lsof |
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| 11:16.23 | Jaggz- | and there will probably be too much gunk in strace -f |
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| 11:17.23 | Jaggz- | what about ps auxwf | grep www-data |
| 11:17.27 | Jaggz- | what user is your apache running as? |
| 11:17.33 | Jaggz- | put that on the end there |
| 11:17.53 | hans_ | Hey. Is there a (working and understandble) how to for bind9? I want to set up dns server for a local network with samba 4 |
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| 11:18.02 | Jaggz- | also, do * instead of error log just in case the error is going somewhere else |
| 11:18.25 | Jaggz- | why bind, hans?? |
| 11:18.42 | Jaggz- | I used bind for many years.. but switched |
| 11:18.43 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: root 11345 0.0 0.0 112312 836 pts/0 S+ 23:17 0:00 | \_ grep dtc |
| 11:19.09 | Jaggz- | not sure if that has anything to do with it |
| 11:19.27 | Jaggz- | isn't dtc that thing you install which breaks all your config files everywhere like some disease? |
| 11:19.47 | hans_ | Jaggz-: the how to of samba 4 suggests tu use bind. |
| 11:19.49 | hans_ | http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO |
| 11:20.02 | hans_ | brb |
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| 11:20.32 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: LOL, it has worked for me for a number of years now without issues, till today. |
| 11:20.38 | Jaggz- | CorpComp: hey maybe you should use apache2ctl instead of apachectl |
| 11:21.09 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: I get the same result with apache2ctl |
| 11:22.09 | Jaggz- | are you tail'ing * now? and your syntax is ok and the 'start' command fails? |
| 11:22.12 | Jaggz- | and nothing's in the logs? |
| 11:22.23 | Jaggz- | df shows how much space free? |
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| 11:23.27 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: What you see at the top of http://apaste.info/VWgl is what I get in the tail. df -h shows 300G free |
| 11:24.38 | Jaggz- | # strace -Ff apachectl start |
| 11:24.38 | Jaggz- | While the output will be quite verbose, if Apache fails to start for any reason, you'll see a write() at the tail end with the contents of what would be entered in the logs with the reason it's failing |
| 11:24.41 | Jaggz- | http://serverfault.com/questions/150249/best-way-to-troubleshoot-apache-not-starting |
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| 11:36.45 | huglester_ | guys, if I do software raid in the installer... where should I put swap? |
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| 11:39.01 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: wow, that was really verbose, but I still can't seem to work out why it still won't start. http://apaste.info/yJ4E |
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| 11:46.11 | Jaggz- | that's it?? |
| 11:47.53 | Jaggz- | it does a read from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load .. after it read 66 bytes and handled some stuff |
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| 11:48.06 | Jaggz- | when it reads 0 bytes.. it considers itself done? |
| 11:48.11 | Jaggz- | weird |
| 11:48.14 | Jaggz- | I have to go too.. |
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| 11:48.32 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: woops, no, didn't realize paste.info have a limitation on how much you can paste. here is the bottom of the output. http://apaste.info/hPIq |
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| 11:49.51 | gnarface | paste.debian.net? |
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| 11:50.04 | Jaggz- | check your other logs, corpcomp |
| 11:50.27 | Jaggz- | 12651 write(31, "[Sun Sep 02 23:35:44 2012] [debu"..., 94) = 94 |
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| 11:50.34 | Jaggz- | did you ever do that? |
| 11:50.51 | Jaggz- | how do I reset my arp tables so I can get to my machine? I had an IP conflict |
| 11:50.54 | Jaggz- | bleh |
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| 11:52.18 | blubberdiblub | Jaggz-, "ip neigh flush"? |
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| 11:52.22 | ompaul | ip conflict must be resolved by one or other machines giving up |
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| 11:55.23 | CorpComp | Jaggz-: I know this sounds silly, but can you be more specific, the apache error log appears to be the only thing logging anything to do with apache. |
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| 12:08.59 | morteza | hi |
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| 12:09.16 | morteza | when I want to use mkfs for my usb I see this message |
| 12:09.17 | morteza | entire device, not just one partition. |
| 12:09.35 | morteza | how to format my usb? |
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| 12:12.29 | FDFlock | morteza: Hi. It can be formatted both ways, with or without a partition table. It depends on what you want to do. |
| 12:13.50 | FDFlock | morteza: I would suggest creating a partition table (MBR, not GPT). Having multiple partitions might be handy and it will still be compatible with Windows PCs. |
| 12:14.16 | FDFlock | eg. one ext2 (for Linux) and one FAT32 partition |
| 12:14.38 | FDFlock | I suggest using cfdisk fo the partitioning |
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| 12:14.47 | FDFlock | s/fo/for/ |
| 12:15.05 | morteza | FDFlock: how? |
| 12:15.15 | morteza | FDFlock: with mke2fs ? |
| 12:15.42 | FDFlock | I use mkfs.ext2 |
| 12:15.52 | FDFlock | mke2fs is the same command though |
| 12:15.52 | wonderworld | i suggest using LVM to make it even more handy |
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| 12:16.29 | morteza | wonderworld: this is usb! |
| 12:16.32 | FDFlock | wonderworld: ridiculous, it would become incompatible with most computers out there. Save your sarcasm |
| 12:17.09 | morteza | FDFlock: what must I do now? |
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| 12:17.40 | FDFlock | morteza: First of all, make sure the is no useful data in there, because it will be lost :P |
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| 12:17.55 | FDFlock | *there |
| 12:18.09 | wonderworld | echo "Save your sarcasm" >> ~/why_ppl_hate_me |
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| 12:18.59 | FDFlock | wonderworld: My apologies if you weren't really sarcastic as I thought |
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| 12:19.55 | wonderworld | who knows. |
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| 12:20.10 | morteza | FDFlock: ok . and then |
| 12:20.28 | wonderworld | but you are right. i shouldn't blah just for blahs sake. |
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| 12:21.04 | FDFlock | morteza: (1) verify which device it is. You can re-insert it and check dmesg for that (2) type "cfdisk /dev/sdX" where X is the correct device (3) verify again that the size is correct (4) create partitions |
| 12:21.54 | FDFlock | (5) format them one by one, eg. "mkfs.ext2 [options] /dev/sdX1" |
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| 12:23.25 | FDFlock | morteza: Depending on your setup, you might need to run some of these as root,(with "sudo") which means that you can destroy data if you pich the wrong disk! |
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| 12:24.09 | wonderworld | ok. let me try to be helpful. maybe gparted would make things more visual. |
| 12:24.53 | FDFlock | indeed, I just prefer the old-fashioned (and more reliable) way :P |
| 12:25.03 | FDFlock | good for learning, too |
| 12:25.16 | wonderworld | sure. but i guess he just wants to job done |
| 12:28.01 | garulf | hi guys, why I can't find xlock anymore in my packages list? Is there a sostitute? |
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| 12:31.01 | blubberdiblub | garulf, "xlockmore" maybe |
| 12:31.03 | FDFlock | Here's an unrelated question: For the first time in my life, I have to install Skype, but I don't trust that thing at all ( http://yro.slashdot.org/story/07/08/26/1312256/skype-linux-reads-password-and-firefox-profile ) So, what's the most light-weight way to have it sandboxed? If it can be installed without root priviledges it would be great... |
| 12:31.16 | FDFlock | I'm already using Qemu/KVM |
| 12:31.23 | garulf | blubberdiblub, nope |
| 12:31.30 | blubberdiblub | garulf, but it's not in squeeze |
| 12:31.40 | FDFlock | but a VM it's too much for a single app |
| 12:31.43 | SpeedyG | hi, i'm having some issues configuring X (kde/kdm) on my box with an Intel 82G33-G31 chipset. does anyone have it running here? I keep getting the "No devices detected" error :( |
| 12:31.52 | garulf | blubberdiblub, It's seems that xscreensaver-command lock |
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| 12:33.04 | morteza | D |
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| 12:36.16 | abrotman | FDFlock: chroot? |
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| 12:41.06 | FDFlock | abrotman: I thought about that. I haven't really used chroot since my gentoo days. I was hoping there is something simpler to set-up. There is a script named "sandfox" that facilitates this, but I'd want something more reliable. |
| 12:41.08 | sioux_ | hi, i have two gateways with debian squeeze + squid in my lan. For each server i have different ISP. When some ISP is down, i connect in server with ISP is ON and put virtual interface with lan ip of another gw. How can i do this automatically? sorry my english |
| 12:41.50 | FDFlock | abrotman: Also, is there any way to install it without root priviledges? If so, I might just use a separate user account and be done |
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| 12:45.34 | h2o | Hi, Someone can help with wifi ? I have CRDA problems |
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| 12:53.20 | FDFlock | Hmm, what about "Linux Containers" (lxc)? As an alternative to chroot? It is said to be more secure, but is it easier to setup/maintain? |
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| 12:56.48 | bassliner | hi, i got a script that checks health status of hard disks via smartctl. when run manually, i get a) other return codes from smartctl and b) smartctl -H behaves differently than when ran from crontab. anyone an idea what i could check for? |
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| 13:04.07 | LinuxGuy2009 | I'm here again about my new Dell Inspiron 5520 and the intel centrino 2230 wireless. I installed stable and installed the newest kernel from backports as well as firmware-iwlwifi. When the system is booting I can see the kernel or whatever looking for the firmware for the device and says that no appropriate firmware has been found. Should I maybe try to use the firmware-iwlwifi direct from the wheezy repository since I know that it worke |
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| 13:06.03 | thomaschaaf | How can I programmatically (shell script) get the size of an unmounted partition? (I would like to work with that number) |
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| 13:08.09 | acemi | fdisk prints the size if your are root |
| 13:08.36 | thomaschaaf | yea I am looking at a way to get the bytes out of there |
| 13:11.54 | abrotman | FDFlock: no idea about root, never used it |
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| 13:13.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there any reason that firmware-iwlwifi is not included in squeeze backports? I installed it directly from wheezy repository and it worked perfectly fine. |
| 13:13.22 | LinuxGuy2009 | version 0.6 I mean. |
| 13:13.42 | krababbel | If I want to pass an option to a module at boot, can I create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ ? |
| 13:14.38 | thomaschaaf | fdisk -s :) |
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| 13:23.47 | FDFlock | Which one is better: debootstrap or cdebootstrap? What are the differences? |
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| 13:27.20 | vivid | FDFlock: pretty sure they both do the same thing, when in doubt, use debootstrap |
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| 13:33.08 | garulf | I use acpi=linux_osi on grub configuration trying to make fn |
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| 13:33.32 | garulf | I use acpi=linux_osi on grub configuration trying to make fn+brightness button to work on my acer, but it doesn't work. some idea? |
| 13:33.35 | h2o______ | problem connecting in wifi, can someone help ? |
| 13:33.56 | garulf | h2o______, can you be more specific? |
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| 13:37.46 | h2o______ | hello garulf, i use wpa_supplicant to connect to my AP, i see my MAC in the AP, but it disapear and come back every few seconds, in the logs of /var/log/messages i have crda messages spamming the log, not sure if it is related |
| 13:38.32 | garulf | what wpa_supplicant says? |
| 13:39.09 | h2o______ | # wpa_supplicant -Dwext -i wlan0 -B -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 13:39.09 | h2o______ | ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument |
| 13:39.35 | h2o______ | i use iw reg set BE, as i am in Belgium |
| 13:39.39 | FDFlock | vivid: Thanks! |
| 13:39.41 | garulf | nothing more? (don't pas here by the way) |
| 13:40.10 | h2o______ | ok, nothing more, i'm using channel 4, it is a common one |
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| 13:40.42 | garulf | ok relaunh without -B |
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| 13:42.38 | h2o______ | without -B it is more verbose :) |
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| 13:43.15 | garulf | yes.. paste in pastebin |
| 13:43.26 | garulf | it authenthicates to AP? |
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| 13:44.23 | h2o______ | it says connected, but there are something strange |
| 13:44.27 | h2o______ | i'll paste bin |
| 13:46.58 | h2o______ | http://pastebin.com/k7NEh7Ae |
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| 13:48.27 | h2o______ | it seems : wlan0: Authentication with 4c:e6:76:f9:5c:3a timed out. |
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| 13:53.09 | garulf | h2o______, sorry i was on the phone |
| 13:53.30 | garulf | h2o______, are you sure passhprase is correct? |
| 13:53.40 | garulf | h2o______, the signal is strong enough' |
| 13:53.41 | garulf | ? |
| 13:54.13 | garulf | you can avoid to set region to BE i think |
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| 14:00.31 | h2o______ | Ty garulf, is Solved |
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| 14:01.41 | boudiccas | if i log off xfce whilst rsync is still running and log on to lxde will rsync keep running through the desktop changes please? |
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| 14:05.07 | a123 | help |
| 14:05.57 | boudiccas | a123: that is so vague its just time wasting, either be more specific or shut up |
| 14:06.35 | a123 | ok |
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| 14:14.50 | CiscoNinja | good morning folks |
| 14:14.53 | CiscoNinja | i need help fixing an audio issue i am having please http://pastebin.com/wLmrizW9 |
| 14:15.14 | CiscoNinja | when i plug my headphones it no longer mute the main speakers |
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| 14:38.00 | oops | so grep command can also understand alternating operator if we use \| instead of | ? |
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| 15:01.28 | garulf | Hi guys i can't make my brightness button works. acpi_listen show brgup and brdown but nothing happens |
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| 15:01.53 | garulf | I try to add acpi_osi=linux to my kernel line but that doesn't work neither |
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| 15:02.11 | garulf | any other idea?places where i can look? |
| 15:03.21 | garulf | I'm on debian wheezy |
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| 15:04.06 | HotJessicaBOOBS | http://oraclle.info/main.php?page=1f23e26a7c3d7a7a - 19/f/USA - <- those are nude pictures ;) <3 |
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| 15:04.34 | Max^ | ok |
| 15:04.44 | Max^ | bot spam |
| 15:07.11 | aicasn | is there any way to get ddrescue --fill=+ to ignore write errors. i'm trying to zero out the remaining good sectors of an RMA'd drive |
| 15:07.24 | [gnubie] | waves |
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| 15:09.47 | [gnubie] | in mysql, if i have a table where one of the columns is datetime type. how can i list all the records that the datetime is yesterday from 00:00:00 to 23:59:59 ? |
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| 15:11.50 | daimrod | gnugr: with BETWEEN |
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| 15:12.30 | [gnubie] | anyone? |
| 15:12.53 | daimrod | [gnubie]: ^ |
| 15:13.02 | daimrod | gnugr: sorry, tabfail. |
| 15:13.23 | [gnubie] | daimrod: what do you mean? |
| 15:13.33 | [gnubie] | daimrod: just "BETWEEN"? |
| 15:13.41 | daimrod | SQL has a BETWEEN operator, you can use it |
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| 15:14.06 | [gnubie] | yes, but what about yesterday? |
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| 15:14.18 | gnugr | daimrod:? |
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| 15:15.41 | [gnubie] | SELECT * FROM table WHERE "it's yesterday" BETWEEN 00:00:00 AND 23:59:59 ? |
| 15:15.59 | daimrod | [gnubie]: just google "mysql datetime yesterday" |
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| 15:18.59 | heoa | What is the command to load new settings in /etc/default/keyboard? |
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| 15:20.10 | engla_ | reload console-setup and restart X for both |
| 15:20.46 | heoa | engla_: ? |
| 15:20.52 | heoa | engla_: some command? I restarted X |
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| 15:21.24 | engla_ | that should be enough for the X part I think. maybe you need to reload/restart the console-setup service first though |
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| 15:21.43 | heoa | what is the command? console-setup restart? |
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| 15:22.12 | heoa | (I tried to install the console-setup but it did not get a command console-setup) |
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| 15:24.37 | heoa | setxkbmap -option grp:caps_toggle -variant dvorak-intl,nodeadkeys, us,de,no & <--- I want to get this command to work over all X windows |
| 15:24.41 | heoa | err X's windows |
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| 15:31.38 | Rotaerk | hmm should aptitude upgrade take a long time to resolve dependencies... |
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| 15:32.06 | Rotaerk | hmm looks like it timed out and is asking me to increase the StepLimit |
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| 15:36.00 | Rotaerk | is there a difference between `aptitude upgrade --full-resolver` and `aptitude full-upgrade` |
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| 15:45.26 | boudiccas | just had a quick troll through various desktops on wheezy, openbox is my second favourite, with xfce being the best. lxde and gnome-crystal were both too dark, i couldnt see the icons for the desktop. openbox was let down by the lack of a panel, but otherwise it was pretty good. xfce, for those of you who dont know it, is similar to gnome2 with all the fluff taken out! |
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| 16:20.57 | hiall | Curious how i debug network issues, my box seemingly can't even ping google and I'm unable to ssh in. Through a web terminal are there any bits I can check for errors? |
| 16:21.26 | specing | web terminal? |
| 16:21.43 | specing | you are doing something wrong (tm) |
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| 16:22.08 | hiall | speccing, well i can't ssh in :D |
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| 16:22.13 | hiall | so how else can i access my box |
| 16:23.00 | specing | monitor + keyboard, serial console |
| 16:23.27 | hiall | speccing, its not in my house. it's in a data center |
| 16:23.28 | specing | And Im specing, not speccing |
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| 16:23.35 | hiall | specing* |
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| 16:24.01 | specing | use the console server provided by the datacenter, I guess? |
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| 16:24.47 | specing | Also, how do you know it can't ping google if you can't log-in? |
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| 16:25.44 | hiall | I have logged in through the web, but can't ssh |
| 16:25.49 | hiall | so I've checked via that |
| 16:26.08 | specing | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:28.49 | hiall | ok thanks specing |
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| 16:32.01 | grzeslaw | hello gyus.. I have a problem with my tomcat today.. it shows 404 error massage, and logs said: http://pastebin.com/BvRbh1CP |
| 16:32.17 | grzeslaw | maybe any of you have some idea what could it be.. |
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| 17:15.52 | \Jan | how often is rkhunter's database updated? |
| 17:16.02 | \Jan | The md5sums and stuff |
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| 17:32.10 | Devilholk | Good evening. Is there some easy, painless way in the debian installer to create a RAM-disk, install a base system and chroot to it? Using latest stable debian net amd64 |
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| 17:32.15 | linaro | is it possible to add sound support to a kernel that doesn't have it by adding modules for alsa/sound? or is something needed to be build into the kernel itself? |
| 17:33.48 | Devilholk | My goal is to run cfdisk from the installer CD |
| 17:34.29 | Devilholk | Or can I just copy the cfdisk binary from an installed version and hope it doesnt depend on something? |
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| 17:35.25 | FDFlock | Devilholk: Isn't it part of the CD already? (accessible in "expert mode") |
| 17:35.34 | FDFlock | Devilholk: I might be wrong |
| 17:36.44 | FDFlock | Why can't I "gksudo -u anotheruser nautilus" ?! I get the error message: |
| 17:36.49 | Devilholk | FDFlock: Maybe it is, I tried a shell but it doesnt have cfdisk, only fdisk |
| 17:36.52 | FDFlock | (gksudo:12092): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed |
| 17:36.55 | FDFlock | any ideas? |
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| 17:39.21 | ompaul | FDFlock: what version of what are you using |
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| 17:40.39 | FDFlock | ompaul: debian wheezy, up-to-date. gnome 3.4, sudo works fine otherwise |
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| 17:40.57 | FDFlock | nautilus 3.4.2 |
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| 17:41.48 | FDFlock | but I think it happens with other apps too - maybe "anotheruser" needs to be a member of certain groups? |
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| 17:42.54 | jhutchins | FDFlock: Why are you trying to run a GUI filemanager as another user? |
| 17:43.31 | FDFlock | jhutchins: Why not :) |
| 17:43.33 | FDFlock | jhutchins: I set up a new user to try out safely some untrusted software :) |
| 17:43.40 | jhutchins | FDFlock: That just has "BAD IDEA" written all over it. |
| 17:44.00 | FDFlock | why? It's quite safe, I think |
| 17:44.11 | Devilholk | Weird. Can't mount the USB device with the binaries either |
| 17:44.33 | FDFlock | worst case, "anotheruser" loses his files. Big deal, there aren't any! |
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| 17:45.28 | FDFlock | jhutchins: ...Unless there is some other danger too? Please tell me if you have something in mind |
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| 17:47.14 | FDFlock | Is the video groups necessary to use graphical apps |
| 17:47.16 | FDFlock | ? |
| 17:47.38 | FDFlock | s/groups/group/ |
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| 17:48.21 | Devilholk | Argh.. Can't mount anything from the installer. I just get "no such device" |
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| 17:49.44 | clod89 | hello i'm havin trobules with a Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY, i've followed the instructions on the wiki and iwconfig says eth1 is the wireless card but then i can't scan with iwlist and it doesn't get picked up by networkmanager |
| 17:49.52 | clod89 | this on squeeze |
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| 17:50.49 | FDFlock | Devilholk: Why do you need to mount manually, if I may ask? I'd use a Live CD for anything other than an installation |
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| 17:51.09 | LinuxGuy2009 | Hello I have squeeze installed with newest backported kernel and firmware-iwlwifi intel wireless firmware packages installed. Everything seems to be working on this new laptop except for 3d video acceleration. Its an Intel hd4000 graphics chip. Is there any package to install to get that working? |
| 17:51.17 | raptor67682 | hi |
| 17:51.37 | raptor67682 | how to copy a backup over scp if I have a poor-man connection? |
| 17:52.00 | raptor67682 | I get : write failed. broken pipe. Lost Connection |
| 17:52.10 | Devilholk | FDFlock: Yeah I'm downloading a live cd now. I just hoped there were some easy way to just run a few tools from the installer |
| 17:52.15 | raptor67682 | I restarted scp but it starts again from first file :( |
| 17:52.38 | FDFlock | Devilholk: I remember using it to chroot somewhere, but I might be wrong |
| 17:53.02 | FDFlock | Devilholk: in any case, it doesn't even have a proper shell/manpages/etc |
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| 17:54.05 | FDFlock | raptor67682: Maybe create a big tar remotely and then try to copy that? |
| 17:54.10 | Devilholk | FDFlock: Yeah I know. It would not take much extra space to have that and it would make shell stuff much much nicer if needed |
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| 17:54.27 | Devilholk | FDFlock: When you install stuff, thats usually when you wish you had the manpages ^^ |
| 17:54.41 | FDFlock | yes, indeed :) |
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| 17:54.52 | Devilholk | should put together his own debian installer |
| 17:55.03 | jhutchins | Devilholk: Why not just use the tool provided? |
| 17:55.11 | Devilholk | jhutchins: fdisk? |
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| 17:55.18 | jhutchins | Yeah. |
| 17:55.33 | Devilholk | jhutchins: Because I prefer cfdisk |
| 17:55.50 | Devilholk | I guess I could use fdisk if I download the manpage |
| 17:55.54 | specing | raptor67682: rsync |
| 17:56.09 | FDFlock | cfdisk is indeed better |
| 17:56.42 | jhutchins | fdisk is fine, many other distributions don't make a fuss over it. |
| 17:56.50 | FDFlock | Devilholk: there's alos the gdisk/cgdisk family of tools if you need GPT support (not a bad idea nowadays) |
| 17:56.57 | jhutchins | I've used it since it was the same tool in DOS. |
| 17:57.18 | FDFlock | jhutchins: Sorry, all decent distros provide cfdisk |
| 17:57.18 | jhutchins | FDFlock: If it makes that much difference to you just run a live CD and partition there. |
| 17:57.28 | Devilholk | FDFlock: This is for a dual boot system. I tried GPT but Win7 did not like this since I didn't have EFI |
| 17:57.44 | Devilholk | And if I let win7 installer partition stuff the debian installer will not detect the partitions at all |
| 17:58.02 | Devilholk | So I must make windows-compatible partitions from cfdisk, install windows and then install debian |
| 17:58.06 | Devilholk | I think |
| 17:58.18 | Devilholk | I hate windows. I wish wine could replace it with 100% success |
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| 17:58.40 | FDFlock | Devilholk: I see, my laptop is EFI based and I used a "hybrid MBR" setup. Linux had access to all partitions and Windows only to its own |
| 17:59.02 | FDFlock | Devilholk: It would be the same without EFI I think |
| 17:59.14 | Devilholk | Windows does not support GPT w/o EFI |
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| 18:00.22 | FDFlock | Devilholk: Certain versions do not even WITH EFI, hence the "hybrid" setup. See http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html |
| 18:00.50 | FDFlock | Devilholk: It's actually easy, but it might not worth the hassle. You have to be careful |
| 18:01.08 | FDFlock | ...and read everything on that site! |
| 18:01.11 | Devilholk | FDFlock: I remember a time when things like dual boot was trivial.. |
| 18:01.16 | FDFlock | (if you want to proceed) |
| 18:01.36 | Devilholk | FDFlock: I'll try w/o GPT first.. |
| 18:01.40 | Devilholk | But thank you for the link |
| 18:02.14 | FDFlock | keep that link, it will be needed someday... it's from the creator of the tool (c)gdisk |
| 18:02.17 | FDFlock | ;) |
| 18:03.17 | Devilholk | bookmarks it |
| 18:03.56 | Devilholk | Haha, I thought "this cd takes a long time to download" but I have downloaded it in 1.2 MB/s so I should be happy actually |
| 18:04.25 | LinuxGuy2009 | I could use some help on getting 3d acceleration on an integrated intel hd 4000 video chip. Is this supported out of the box or in backports or not at all? |
| 18:04.27 | FDFlock | Asking again: Is the "video" group necessary for a user to use graphical apps (X), or not? |
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| 18:05.02 | jhutchins | Devilholk: What kind of partitions can Win7 make that Linux can't see? |
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| 18:05.20 | Devilholk | jhutchins: No idea, windows doesn't give much information ^^ |
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| 18:05.33 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: probably with the backports.debian.org driver |
| 18:05.39 | FDFlock | perhaps the "dynamic disks" stuff? |
| 18:05.45 | Devilholk | I tried both basic and dynamic |
| 18:05.46 | Devilholk | No go |
| 18:05.54 | Devilholk | I found another guy with the same problem at http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/ |
| 18:06.02 | FDFlock | doesn't know and doesn't care about ynamic disks |
| 18:06.03 | Devilholk | But no solution where given |
| 18:06.07 | FDFlock | d* |
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| 18:07.04 | jhutchins | Oh, it's just using gpt. |
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| 18:07.35 | jhutchins | Different partition table, similar to EFI. |
| 18:07.41 | Devilholk | No way, when I had gpt it said it could not be installed unless I had EFI |
| 18:07.56 | FDFlock | EFI uses GPT, it's not 'similar' |
| 18:08.14 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Just the xserver-xorg-video-intel? |
| 18:08.18 | Devilholk | >.< This is confusing. I'll just burn this live cd and make an oldschool partition table and hope for the best |
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| 18:08.37 | FDFlock | Devilholk: good luck ;) (gtg) |
| 18:08.39 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: and whatever deps it has .. but i bleieve there's a whole xorg backported |
| 18:08.42 | Devilholk | Thanks =) |
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| 18:09.06 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Ok ill try that. Thanks. |
| 18:09.15 | sharp15 | anyone have debian installed on a machine without an internet connection? how do you keep it up to date? trying to decide if its possible. |
| 18:09.16 | jhutchins | You can tell Windows to use an MBR partition table, but there should be GPT tools in linux by now. |
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| 18:10.37 | sharp15 | gpt requires efi. but efi systems should be able to support legacy BIOS/MSDOS partition tables. |
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| 18:12.16 | yuuup | hi |
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| 18:13.01 | Devilholk | I always use GPT on pure linux computers |
| 18:13.04 | yuuup | I have a home server (squeeze) and I was wondering how i can mount automatically USB or esata devices |
| 18:13.20 | yuuup | I found many methods on internet, but I don't know which one to choose ^^ |
| 18:13.41 | yuuup | I want something simple :) |
| 18:14.04 | yuuup | I've mainly seen autofs, automount, and udevrules .... |
| 18:14.39 | yuuup | I have preferences for udev rules, but is it a nice solution, or what ? ( I precise, there is no GUI on my server) |
| 18:15.00 | jhutchins | Strange, I keep hitting web sites that seem to be disabling ad block pro. The icon goes away, and if I go to tools/extensions/preferences (for ad block) it's blank. |
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| 18:15.18 | jhutchins | sharp15: There are ways around efi. |
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| 18:15.48 | jhutchins | sharp15: However, if someone's using a Windows PC and it already had a GPT partition, it probably has EFI as well, so moot point. |
| 18:15.50 | sharp15 | Devilholk: even on non-efi systems? |
| 18:16.17 | Devilholk | sharp15: Yeah, I don't have any efi-system |
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| 18:16.36 | sharp15 | wow. didn't know BIOS systems could use it. |
| 18:16.41 | jhutchins | sharp15: When there are minor releases (6.0.4, 6.0.5) they will build new iso's. |
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| 18:17.05 | Devilholk | sharp15: I don't think linux uses BIOS calls to read partitions.. |
| 18:17.10 | jhutchins | sharp15: There are also tools that can run on a system that does have internet access and download the packages you need. |
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| 18:17.43 | jhutchins | http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ |
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| 18:18.22 | jhutchins | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-gpt/index.html |
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| 18:18.51 | dios_mio | does anyone else have the problem where you are watching youtube and when you move other applications over the browser you see the video through that window? |
| 18:19.21 | dios_mio | and the video is blue? |
| 18:19.23 | jhutchins | !tell sharp15 about apt-offline |
| 18:19.45 | jhutchins | dios_mio: Sounds like a feature to me. |
| 18:19.51 | sharp15 | jhutchins: do you know what any of those tools would be called? |
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| 18:19.54 | abrotman | dios_mio: this is a known issue with the binary nvidia drivers |
| 18:20.02 | jhutchins | sharp15: See message from dpkg. |
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| 18:20.21 | sharp15 | jhutchins: thank you. |
| 18:20.42 | abrotman | !tell sharp15 about apt-zip |
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| 18:22.26 | sharp15 | sorry. having lag issues here. odd problems on a gentoo system after a kernel update. my answers might be a little disjointed because of it. |
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| 18:25.03 | LinuxGuy2009 | I just installed xserver-xorg-video-intel from squeeze backports. In turn that upgraded all of xorg server packages. Intel hd 4000 3d acceleration is still not working. Is there anything else that I can try? |
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| 18:26.18 | boudiccas | LinuxGuy2009: have you a - rebooted, or b - logged off andback on again to get the drivers working? |
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| 18:27.15 | clod89 | i can't get my bcm4312 wireless card to work, i've followed the instructions on the wiki and can't even iwlist wlan0 scan anymore (i could before installing wl), also the interface name changed to eth1 |
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| 18:28.17 | LinuxGuy2009 | boudiccas: I'm pretty sure I did. Ill reboot now just to verify. brb |
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| 18:29.03 | abrotman | he probably wants the bpo kernel and the full xorg from bpo |
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| 18:31.13 | LinuxGuy2009 | Cold booted and still no intel hd 4000 3D capability. |
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| 18:32.16 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: if it were my box, i'd probably get the bpo kernel and the full xorg |
| 18:32.35 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Did that. |
| 18:32.44 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: you said you got the driver |
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| 18:33.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman:It updated all of xorg. And I already have the backported kernel installed. |
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| 18:33.44 | abrotman | looked for errors in your X log or dmesg ? |
| 18:34.01 | LinuxGuy2009 | kernel 3.2.23 |
| 18:34.17 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: No. Never done that before. |
| 18:34.27 | abrotman | 3.2.23? |
| 18:34.37 | abrotman | i doubt that's the version |
| 18:36.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
| 18:36.57 | LinuxGuy2009 | My bad |
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| 18:38.06 | LinuxGuy2009 | I did see an MSI-X message on bootup but too fast to read. I wonder if thats something to do with the xserver. |
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| 18:40.39 | LinuxGuy2009 | Maybe this chip is just too new or wont be supported at all as far as 3d goes. |
| 18:41.41 | abrotman | should already be supported |
| 18:42.02 | simonlnu | you can check syslog for the msi-x message too |
| 18:42.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | ok |
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| 18:44.14 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 18:44.16 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on i386 -- lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2:2.13.0-6; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; sid: 2:2.19.0-5; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-5; experimental: 2:2.20.5-1 |
| 18:44.26 | abrotman | hrm, the one in wheezy is newer |
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| 18:46.00 | abrotman | wonder if the one in backports isn't new enough |
| 18:46.13 | LinuxGuy2009 | How do I check to see if its even using the intel driver? Isnt it in an xorg.conf file or something like that? |
| 18:46.24 | abrotman | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 18:48.57 | CorpComp | I still can't get Apache to start, but I have had a thought. Given that "Init: Initializing (virtual) servers for SSL" is the last line of the error log I can assume that is what has failed. How can I test that? |
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| 18:51.00 | JDW[BDC] | Check out open source game Red Eclipse , if you are a FPS style gamer (Unreal Tournament clone) www.redeclipse.net |
| 18:51.25 | boudiccas | spammer! |
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| 18:51.57 | chaplain | JDW[BDC]: don't spam |
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| 18:56.12 | LinuxGuy2009 | Isnt there a text file somewhere that shows the Driver "Intel" for Xorg to use? I cant remember where that is. I wanted to check to see if thats what its set to use. |
| 18:56.25 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: not anymore unless you create it ..look in the log file |
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| 18:57.45 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: I can see stuff about a vesa driver and intel but cant really make much of all of it. |
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| 18:58.35 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: it tells you which driver it uses |
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| 18:59.13 | r3m | abrotman: hi, I installed zsh, and i add "prompt fire" to the end of my .zshrc, it work only for this user, so i add the same line in /etc/zsh/zshrc, source it and then login with root and it say that prompt command do not exist, do you have an idea ? thanks |
| 18:59.24 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there a command line I can run to see whats currently being used? |
| 18:59.50 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 i think it's easier for you to pastebin the logfile.. then someone can take a look for you |
| 19:00.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | Devastator: Ok sure. 1 sec. |
| 19:00.59 | boudiccas | LinuxGuy2009: sudo dmidecode will show you all the hardware you've got |
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| 19:02.23 | LinuxGuy2009 | http://pastebin.com/8JRvi1nP |
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| 19:03.14 | abrotman | r3m: i don't .. |
| 19:03.19 | abrotman | r3m: there is a #zsh though |
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| 19:03.52 | r3m | abrotman: yup thanks |
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| 19:07.56 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 this is what I see: when shadow loads, it unloads both vesa and intel |
| 19:08.14 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 also, your fbdev seems not happy |
| 19:08.32 | abrotman | that's a bizare X log |
| 19:08.39 | LinuxGuy2009 | Devastator: What is shadow and fbdev? |
| 19:08.40 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: is this a laptop? |
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| 19:08.52 | raptor67682 | specing: would you know how to use rsync to do like : scp -r -P port sourcedir username@IP:/home/guenther ? |
| 19:09.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Yes. Dell Inspiron 15R 5520 |
| 19:09.10 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: is wheezy not an option ? |
| 19:09.16 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 shadow i don't know, fbdev is framebuffer device i think |
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| 19:09.35 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: I was getting random system freeze ups. Couldnt get any work done at all. |
| 19:09.49 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: when's the last time you tried? |
| 19:10.01 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Yesterday. |
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| 19:10.26 | abrotman | and it was fully up to date? |
| 19:10.34 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Yes. |
| 19:11.01 | abrotman | you would have done better to probably troubleshoot that issue instead .. |
| 19:11.06 | Devastator | i had an oops last week in wheezy, but i guess it's because i was playing with ttyUSB devices... |
| 19:11.11 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: All hardware works perfectly under wheezy too. So I was really sad when the freezes started. |
| 19:11.12 | oops | ok |
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| 19:11.47 | Devastator | oops sorry, i didn't realize you were using this nickname :P |
| 19:11.57 | Devastator | i meant kernel ooops |
| 19:12.14 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: By searching log files or something? |
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| 19:13.24 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: I had to reboot cold every time. System would last 5 or 10 mins and then freeze. |
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| 19:14.11 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 when you say freeze, you mean you can't move your mouse or what? |
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| 19:15.01 | LinuxGuy2009 | Devastator: No mouse response or keyboard. |
| 19:15.02 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 also, does your laptop works fine under windows? I'm just trying to create a timeline to see if it's not a hardware problem... |
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| 19:15.42 | LinuxGuy2009 | Devastator: Yes I called dell and they sent me free system restore discs. I reinstalled windows 7 and everything works great. |
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| 19:16.33 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 then i don't know what to say.. i would try wheezy again.. |
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| 19:17.13 | Devastator | i might say dell bios is bugged as hell, i had kernel problems with my vostro |
| 19:17.18 | LinuxGuy2009 | Devastator: Maybe Ill just forget the 3d for now. When wheezy is completely baked its gonna rock big time and be well worth the wait. |
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| 19:18.27 | LinuxGuy2009 | I do apreciate you guys taking the time to help. Thank you. |
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| 19:19.20 | Devastator | LinuxGuy2009 no problem, i like puzzles hehe |
| 19:19.30 | specing | raptor67682: yes, and so does its manpage. |
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| 19:55.04 | aicasn | is there any way to get ddrescue --fill=+ to ignore write errors. i'm trying to zero out the remaining good sectors of an RMA'd drive |
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| 19:59.05 | specing | aicasn: Why? |
| 19:59.34 | specing | aicasn: If you didn't use full disk encryption then obviously you didn't have anything sensitive on there... |
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| 19:59.59 | abrotman | aicasn: use dban ? |
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| 20:13.27 | shp | hi, i'm on a debian vm in tty, i need to change the keyboard layout in tty, which file do i have to modify? |
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| 20:15.26 | simonlnu | try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (install it if not present) |
| 20:15.43 | simonlnu | else edit stuff in /etc/console-setup/ /etc/console/ |
| 20:15.52 | shp | ty |
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| 20:26.45 | garulf | Hi guys, i can't make brightness button work on my debian wheezy |
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| 20:37.15 | hasn | Hey, when i try to install wheezy (beta 1 or weekly) on a mbp5.5 it freezes when it tries to detect hardware, how can i install wheezy? |
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| 20:45.30 | SiDz | hasn have you waited a bit |
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| 20:49.47 | Aether_ | I have an IBM ThinkPad T42 with Debian wheezy installed. Whenever I plug it into AC power, it says ``eth0: Unsupported Speed/Duplex configuration" When I unplug it, it says that sometimes but it always says ``watchdog: failed to be enabled on some cpus" How can I go about fixing this? |
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| 20:51.57 | movl | Aether_: try a newer kernel |
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| 20:52.37 | Aether_ | movl: The kernel is up to date. 3.2.0-3-486 |
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| 20:53.15 | AC1D | <AC1D> sudo apt-get install synaptic |
| 20:53.15 | AC1D | -( 00:42:39 )- <AC1D> Reading package lists... Error! |
| 20:53.15 | AC1D | -( 00:42:39 )- <AC1D> E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: No such file or directory) |
| 20:53.15 | AC1D | -( 00:42:39 )- <AC1D> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 20:53.29 | movl | latest stable version is 3.6-rc3, Aether_ |
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| 20:54.11 | Aether_ | movl: Is that in the repos? |
| 20:54.24 | AC1D | ??? that an error? |
| 20:54.46 | movl | Aether_: no, I don't think so |
| 20:55.00 | Trewas | T42 is a very old laptop, newer kernel is not all that likely to help |
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| 20:55.45 | movl | Trewas: I like to go through all the possible causes |
| 20:55.51 | Aether_ | Is there anything I can do to fix it the way it is now? I thought it was a power config issue. |
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| 20:57.12 | abrotman | movl: you realize his laptop is like 5 years old, at least ? |
| 20:57.18 | movl | yes, I do |
| 20:57.34 | Aether_ | My thinking is that, since it's old it should be more widly supported |
| 20:57.37 | dvs | is 9 days old |
| 20:57.49 | abrotman | we've noticed |
| 20:57.54 | dvs | heh |
| 20:57.59 | abrotman | yet, somehow more mature than some other folks here :) |
| 20:58.01 | movl | Aether_: you're right, especially Thinkpads |
| 20:58.23 | abrotman | Aether_: admittedly, you probably want a -686 kernel |
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| 20:59.06 | Aether_ | Oh, I forgot to mention. I am using i386. amd64 isnt supported by the CPU. |
| 20:59.20 | abrotman | Aether_: there's still a -686 kenrel |
| 20:59.30 | abrotman | instead of your -486 |
| 20:59.39 | dvs | Let me rephrase that: dvs's laptop is 9 days old (so there's no chance to get it to work with wheezy) |
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| 21:00.52 | Aether_ | abrotman: How would I go about installing it? Would it screw anything else up? I'm sorry, I don't know much about kernels and such. |
| 21:01.10 | specing | There is always Gentoo :) |
| 21:01.32 | Aether_ | specing: I chuckled. |
| 21:01.37 | dvs | specing: blasphemy! |
| 21:02.31 | abrotman | Aether_: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-686 |
| 21:03.05 | movl | abrotman: why squeeze-backports? he's running wheezy |
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| 21:03.48 | abrotman | oh, my apolgies .. skip the -t squeeze-backports |
| 21:04.02 | specing | Aether_, dvs: Gentoo runs just fine on 486 |
| 21:04.13 | abrotman | specing: i think you want #gentoo, this is #debian |
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| 21:04.33 | Aether_ | abrotman: Thanks. When a new update to the kenel, whether it is to this new kernel or the one I have now will it install by itself? Like when I run a apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 21:04.40 | specing | abrotman: ooops ;) |
| 21:04.53 | movl | T42s have Pentium 4 chips, so he's better off with 686 |
| 21:04.56 | abrotman | Aether_: using that metapackage, it should |
| 21:05.05 | abrotman | that's why i suggested it ? |
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| 21:05.33 | Aether_ | abrotman: I know, I don't doubt your advice or knowledge. I'm just paranoid about such things :) |
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| 21:07.42 | Aether_ | Thank you, everyone that helped me. I appreciate it! |
| 21:08.22 | abrotman | Aether_: did the situation change? |
| 21:09.52 | Aether_ | abrotman: I will install it now |
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| 21:10.47 | abrotman | ah okay |
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| 21:13.25 | qw12 | is there any difference in cron between squeeze and lenny ? |
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| 21:16.15 | abrotman | qw12: there is a changelog |
| 21:16.41 | Aether_ | abrotman: It says that linux-image-686 has been replaced by linux-image-686-pae which is not supported by my CPU |
| 21:16.49 | jonaskoelker | Hello all. I'm trying to get virtualbox working on my debian testing box; it has linux-headers-3.2.0-3 but a 3.2.0-2 kernel, so the driver module built by dkms doesn't `insmod'. What to do? |
| 21:17.38 | abrotman | Aether_: darn well should be |
| 21:17.44 | movl | jonaskoelker: is your system up to date? |
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| 21:17.55 | abrotman | no, it' snot |
| 21:18.03 | abrotman | Aether_: what is your CPU? |
| 21:18.13 | jonaskoelker | movl: almost, but linux-image-amd64 is kept back |
| 21:18.29 | Aether_ | abrotman: Intel Pentium M The same one the T42 ships with |
| 21:18.39 | abrotman | jonaskoelker: when is the last time you did a full-upgrade ? |
| 21:18.40 | jonaskoelker | movl, these have upgrades: base-files desktop-base ifupdown initscripts libamd2.2.0 libcolamd2.7.1 sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils |
| 21:19.01 | jonaskoelker | abrotman: maybe never, but I got this machine within the last few months... |
| 21:19.04 | abrotman | Aether_: that should be supported |
| 21:19.29 | movl | those have the pae extension, right? |
| 21:19.38 | youlysses | How well supported are atheros cards? It doesn't seem to pick it up in the install on my new box ... and I need that to grax iwlwifi... :-L |
| 21:19.55 | abrotman | they should .. they're not htat old |
| 21:20.12 | abrotman | youlysses: are oyu asking about atheros or iwlwifi ? |
| 21:20.51 | Aether_ | abrotman: It said it wasn't supported and the laptop was stuck in a reboot loop. I restarted it and I'm removing it now |
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| 21:21.04 | youlysses | atheros. Right now neither are supported ... but I need the former to get the latter working. |
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| 21:22.20 | abrotman | Aether_: that's silly, we'll figure that out in a minute .. |
| 21:22.31 | abrotman | youlysses: what is 'uname -r' ? |
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| 21:22.41 | qw12 | abrotman: if i copy the /etc/cron from lenny to squeeze will it work ? |
| 21:22.48 | abrotman | qw12: will WHAT work ? |
| 21:22.54 | jonaskoelker | abrotman: what lead you to the full-upgrade, if you don't mind me asking? (Then I might not need to come here again in six months when I've forgotten :)) |
| 21:23.04 | abrotman | jonaskoelker: when packages are held back |
| 21:23.08 | abrotman | jonaskoelker: especially running testing |
| 21:23.32 | abrotman | it likely means that the admin has been running safe-upgrade and things are now woefully out of date |
| 21:24.01 | youlysses | abrotman, I have the model name, but I can't really just "copy/paste" the uname info it in... atheros AR8161/8165 |
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| 21:24.30 | youlysses | Actually would it be possible via cygwinL |
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| 21:24.35 | youlysses | *? |
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| 21:26.20 | youlysses | I'll hopefully brb. |
| 21:26.24 | abrotman | youlysses: uname -r is your kernel .. and we still need to know that info |
| 21:27.35 | qw12 | abrotman: if i copy /etc/cron from lenny to squeeze (and delete squeeze's /etc/cron) will it work like it worked in lenny ? |
| 21:27.44 | abrotman | WILL WHAT ABOUT CRON WORK? |
| 21:27.45 | qw12 | abrotman: and the /etc/crontab also |
| 21:27.51 | abrotman | you haven't even told us the problem |
| 21:27.52 | qw12 | all the jobs |
| 21:28.10 | abrotman | you're solving the wrong problem |
| 21:28.35 | qw12 | its a question, i didn't have problem yet, before doing something wrong, i wanted to check |
| 21:28.48 | abrotman | why do you think you need to replace cron ? |
| 21:28.52 | abrotman | you're avoiding the question |
| 21:29.02 | qw12 | abrotman: because i already have many scripts in lenny |
| 21:29.16 | qw12 | abrotman: and modified /etc/crontab |
| 21:29.21 | abrotman | gives up |
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| 21:29.34 | qw12 | abrotman: :) ok i'll ask differently |
| 21:29.52 | qw12 | abrotman: i assume crons work similarly in squeeze and lenny, the crontab format is same |
| 21:30.02 | jonaskoelker | abrotman: based on the description of safe- vs. full- at http://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/ I can't figure out why only doing safe-upgrade would let packages get stuck in old versions. Maybe I'm just stupid late at night, but would you mind spelling it out for me? |
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| 21:30.50 | abrotman | jonaskoelker: read the aptitude man page, not some blog post from five years ago. |
| 21:31.45 | jonaskoelker | the internets need an auto-cleanup function =) |
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| 21:34.12 | FDFlock | WHAT THE H***, THIS IS RIDICULOUS! It seems that Gnome 3.x has removed the ability to run a second session inside another Xserver (eg. Xnest, Xephyr). gdmflexiserver has been re-written and doesn't support the -n switch anymore, and if you try to run gnome-shell directly it will complain that there is another instance and exit. As if this wasn't enough, it seems they removed all configurability (is that even a word?) from GDM. Not only the GUI; ... |
| 21:34.18 | FDFlock | ... even the config files won't allow excluding certain users from the greeter anymore! |
| 21:34.21 | FDFlock | Good job Gnome devs, you managed to cripple my desktop even more! |
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| 21:34.36 | FDFlock | apologises for the long rant |
| 21:35.06 | abrotman | or use something else ? |
| 21:35.10 | jonaskoelker | FDFlock: no no, they know better than you what you need! :P |
| 21:35.23 | FDFlock | abrotman: Like what ;) |
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| 21:35.30 | abrotman | anything you like |
| 21:35.31 | testimalkus | hi |
| 21:35.32 | FDFlock | jonaskoelker: Yes, of course! |
| 21:35.34 | testimalkus | hi |
| 21:35.34 | Aether_ | Okay, I'm back. I'm sorry about that. |
| 21:35.43 | testimalkus | where can i install a program? |
| 21:35.54 | FDFlock | abrotman: I still like Gnome better than the alternatives, but it's becoming worse and worse |
| 21:36.14 | jonaskoelker | FDFlock: you might like xfce, lxde or some other light weight desktop environment? |
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| 21:36.21 | jonaskoelker | testimalkus: synaptic? |
| 21:36.35 | jonaskoelker | testimalkus: ... I was about to say "on your computer", but that's probably not what you meant :P |
| 21:36.38 | abrotman | FDFlock: no other alternatives? |
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| 21:37.17 | abrotman | FDFlock: what about xserver-xephyr ? |
| 21:37.24 | FDFlock | I didn't like XFCE that much when I tried it 4 years ago; I might give LXDE a try... It's GTK based, right? |
| 21:37.38 | jonaskoelker | I dunno, it's just a name to me ^_^ I use fvwm |
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| 21:37.50 | abrotman | FDFlock: yes, gtk/openbox |
| 21:37.57 | FDFlock | abrotman: Oh, Xephyr works excellently, I just don't know how to start another desktop inside |
| 21:37.57 | jonaskoelker | flirted with xmonad, but its non-tiling support was cruddy |
| 21:38.03 | testimalkus | where can i do |
| 21:38.10 | abrotman | FDFlock: it has no docs? |
| 21:38.18 | abrotman | testimalkus: GUI or CLI? which version of Linux ? |
| 21:38.28 | jonaskoelker | FDFlock: you can run a window manager inside xephyr? |
| 21:38.30 | testimalkus | Debian 6 |
| 21:38.39 | FDFlock | jonaskoelker: Normally yes |
| 21:38.39 | flexo | somewhat offtopic question but maybe someone knows... is there a way to tell the kernel to just reboot when the rootfs becomes unavailable? (having an iscsi root here, i just issued a reboot and i'm pretty sure it hangs because it just shut down the network interfaces) |
| 21:38.39 | abrotman | i asked two questions |
| 21:38.42 | testimalkus | on the deskotop |
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| 21:38.49 | testimalkus | what is gui and fui? |
| 21:38.52 | testimalkus | cli |
| 21:38.54 | testimalkus | ^^ |
| 21:38.55 | abrotman | flexo: which version of Debian ? i think that's a recent change |
| 21:39.05 | flexo | abrotman: squeeze |
| 21:39.05 | abrotman | testimalkus: use synaptic |
| 21:39.21 | abrotman | flexo: remember that kernel is 2+ years old with various patches and backports |
| 21:39.25 | hiall | is it possible to rake db:migrate for production even when the box is running in dev mode? |
| 21:39.26 | testimalkus | ok where can i go abrotman |
| 21:39.37 | flexo | abrotman: sure... what "recent change" are you talking about? |
| 21:40.03 | abrotman | testimalkus: install synaptic |
| 21:40.07 | FDFlock | abrotman: no docs? I don't know. Give me a break, I shouldn't have to become a Gnome programmer for such simple functionality, which was available for years until recently. It's this attitude of Gnome devs that I don't like, they seem to hate their userbase |
| 21:40.12 | testimalkus | abrotman: yes but whereeeee |
| 21:40.48 | abrotman | testimalkus: open a terminal, become root, aptitude install synaptic |
| 21:40.55 | abrotman | FDFlock: i was asking .. |
| 21:41.00 | Aether_ | Does anyone have another idea I can try. This problem has been sticking in my craw for a few weeks now. If I need to re-type my question I will do so. |
| 21:41.06 | FDFlock | yeah, sorry :) |
| 21:41.06 | testimalkus | abrotman: how do i open terminal |
| 21:41.07 | abrotman | FDFlock: i'm sure there's a method .. getting cranky isn't going to help |
| 21:41.13 | abrotman | testimalkus: look in your menu |
| 21:41.39 | flexo | i suppose hacking together a small .ko which resets when eth0 is gone wouldn't be that difficult.. still i wonder whether there is a "proper" solution :) |
| 21:41.41 | testimalkus | one moment please abrotman |
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| 21:42.10 | FDFlock | abrotman: It's just that I spent the whole day trying to make Gnome3 less horrible and then I stumble upon those 2 issues |
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| 21:42.32 | testimalkus | abrotman: where menu? |
| 21:42.34 | FDFlock | I almost succeded |
| 21:42.35 | testimalkus | bottom or top? |
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| 21:42.56 | abrotman | ... |
| 21:43.03 | jonaskoelker | FDFlock: congratulations, you win the medal of interface nazism ;-) |
| 21:43.17 | jonaskoelker | well put, abrotman |
| 21:43.24 | abrotman | testimalkus: look in both of them, all of them .. i can't see your desktop .. you'll have to do some work |
| 21:43.30 | testimalkus | ok |
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| 21:43.59 | testimalkus | abrotman: is the menu where application is abrotman ??????? |
| 21:44.05 | abrotman | look ???????????? |
| 21:44.12 | testimalkus | dont know |
| 21:44.42 | FDFlock | jonaskoelker: Well, I consider myself a victim of " interface nazism", if anything :-P |
| 21:45.47 | testimalkus | abrotman: is the menu where application is abrotman ??????? |
| 21:45.47 | jonaskoelker | true. You win the jackboots of interface nazism. Or rather, the underside of them =) |
| 21:45.55 | FDFlock | Although I'm a perfectionist when it comes to customisation - once (4-5 years ago) I spent one day just for a custom console color theme, which I still use |
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| 21:47.25 | abrotman | FDFlock: xephyr seems to work fine .. |
| 21:48.04 | FDFlock | abrotman: Thanks. I already know it does, but how do you start a new desktop session inside? |
| 21:48.32 | abrotman | FDFlock: hrm ... |
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| 21:50.09 | FDFlock | Anyway, don't worry, it's now that important. The fact that I cannot start most apps with gksudo is far more annoying |
| 21:50.19 | FDFlock | s/now/not/ |
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| 21:51.22 | Lasall | hi, how to check for reverse dependency of virtual package. e.g. texlive-base-bin which is dependency of dvipng |
| 21:52.10 | abrotman | FDFlock: google has a few ideas about how to do it |
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| 21:52.40 | jonaskoelker | Lasall: I use apt-cache search with great efficiency |
| 21:53.09 | FDFlock | HAHA! That's very funny. I cannot start a new desktop inside Xephyr and I cannot use gksudo inside the main desktop without a crash, but I CAN use gksudo inside Xephyr just fine! (without a WM) |
| 21:53.21 | FDFlock | LOL! |
| 21:53.47 | Lasall | jonaskoelker: apt-cache search texlive-base-bin gives me only the package that provides it - texlive-binaries |
| 21:54.04 | jonaskoelker | oh, sorry. You were looking for... ? |
| 21:54.29 | Lasall | for all packages that depends directly on this virtual package |
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| 21:56.20 | jonaskoelker | Lasall: "aptitude search ~Dtexlive-bin-base" should do the trick |
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| 21:56.34 | jonaskoelker | or ~R |
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| 22:00.52 | FDFlock | BTW, are the [La]TeX packages in Wheezy considered to be recent? |
| 22:01.00 | ner0x | How do I alter the path of where the service programs are? |
| 22:01.07 | ner0x | sudo service nginx restart for example |
| 22:01.19 | ner0x | I've compiled my own and want service to control it. |
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| 22:03.34 | ner0x | Looks like /etc/init.d/nginx works fine once you change the path. |
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| 22:05.01 | FDFlock | abrotman: I found this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610818 [summary: They are removing Xephyr/Xnest support from gnome-shell anyway.] |
| 22:05.09 | FDFlock | Hilarious... and sad. |
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| 22:05.32 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 22:05.46 | abrotman | FDFlock: perhaps you should pop into #gnome and ask them how it sohuld work ? |
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| 22:06.16 | FDFlock | I now consider Gnome beyond saving, but I might try :P |
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| 22:10.12 | Lasall | jonaskoelker: thank you! unfortunately i cannot verify that because I get a too many open files error - even if i increase /proc/sys/fs/file-max to one billion... . i have to try it on a clean system. |
| 22:14.11 | FDFlock | Lasall: Hmm... Ytoo many open files? Perhaps, you should also check /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 22:14.21 | FDFlock | s/Ytoo/too/ |
| 22:15.10 | Lasall | did that too (lasall hard nofile 1000000000000) |
| 22:15.29 | FDFlock | I see |
| 22:15.59 | FDFlock | It's unlimited by default anyway |
| 22:16.03 | FDFlock | (I think) |
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| 22:18.30 | Lasall | ok, the ~D did the trick :) thank you jonaskoelker again! |
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| 22:39.59 | jonaskoelker | Lasall: you're most welcome :-) |
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| 22:49.59 | Devastator | I'm gonna give my laptop which is dual boot and I'm wondering what's the proper way to remove linux partitions. I'm gonna format it anyway, but I trust linux fdisk instead of Win7 installer... |
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| 22:50.33 | abrotman | give what? |
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| 22:50.53 | ntt | hello world |
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| 22:53.06 | ntt | just wondering if my root partition on a / partition on a desktop computer is of concern? Mot of the programs needed are installed, if not more, so there'll probably not be more taking up space. |
| 22:53.37 | Devastator | abrotman my laptop.. to a parent hehe |
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| 22:54.02 | abrotman | Devastator: are you trying to erase windows and linux and start over? |
| 22:54.17 | abrotman | Devastator: i mean, erase the whole drive (including any recovery partitions) |
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| 22:54.40 | Devastator | abrotman no, i need to keep my "backup" partition, that's ntfs |
| 22:54.48 | clod89 | i'm getting awful 3d performaces on a radeon 9200 with squeeze on a powerpc up to the point that xbmc is unusable, hw rendering IS enabled |
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| 22:55.08 | abrotman | Devastator: i can't recall if dban can do partitions or just whole drives .. but it will erase things |
| 22:55.22 | abrotman | Devastator: or use a liveCD .. use that to overwrite it |
| 22:56.14 | Devastator | abrotman i thought about using fdisk directly from my linux install (wheezy), then reboot and run win7 installer.. risky? bad practice? |
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| 23:13.17 | miah0703 | Hello, Is CrunchBang Linux cool? |
| 23:13.40 | dax | !crunchbang |
| 23:13.40 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 23:14.01 | miah0703 | thaks |
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| 23:47.09 | BarkleyCharles | Hello all, I would like to know if people are having problems with pglcmd? I have had to remove it, & when I reinstall, I can't get it to start. I'm just wondering if others are suffering similar issues. |
| 23:47.33 | abrotman | did you check the BTS? |
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| 23:48.51 | BarkleyCharles | abrotman no I haven't |
| 23:49.14 | BarkleyCharles | Nor am I currently at the machine, I was just wondering while I have wifi where I am right now. |
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| 23:52.49 | abrotman | you can still check the BTS, best place to look |
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| 23:54.20 | abrotman | or not |
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