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| 00:03.11 | equex | do i still need the original dvd image #1 if i get the update dvd to #1 ? or is the update dvd #1 with updated integrated ? |
| 00:03.52 | equex | 6.0.4 btw |
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| 00:07.09 | equex | and another thing... if i want to run shorewall and dsnmasq at the same time, as some people have recommended, wont that cause some kind of conflict? because i would suspect that both of them sets up some kind of masqerading... has anyone gotten it to work? i had dnsmasw run properly and handing out dhcp on eth1 to my lan but i could not get any forwarding to eth0 wirch goes to the isp |
| 00:07.52 | equex | i'm kind of new to this kind of networking, but i followed the docs as good as i could... |
| 00:09.53 | equex | dnsmasq* |
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| 00:12.18 | Gentoon | So in Man Nano, it says to turn on Syntax colring it is like M-n whats key is it measning by M? |
| 00:12.25 | a5m0 | what's the recommended method for fglrx on squeeze? seems like there aren't any active packages |
| 00:12.37 | somiaj | ,versions fglrx-drivers |
| 00:12.38 | judd | No package named 'fglrx-drivers' was found in i386. |
| 00:12.40 | somiaj | ,versions fglrx-driver |
| 00:12.41 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:8-12-4; lenny-backports/non-free: 1:10-4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3; sid/non-free: 1:12-2-2; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-2-2 |
| 00:12.52 | somiaj | amphi: its part of non-free you'll have to add that repo if you want those packages |
| 00:13.23 | somiaj | hmm, that didn't list the version in squeeze-backports, you can look that up on packages.debian.org if you need to |
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| 00:13.49 | saienia | Gentoon: M = Meta key ..usually something like the windows key or left ctrl key.. |
| 00:14.02 | Gentoon | saienia: was escape |
| 00:14.13 | Gentoon | saienia: But it says syntax coloring is on |
| 00:14.30 | a5m0 | ah i think i was thinking about amd-libopencl1 |
| 00:14.40 | Gentoon | But everything is white, how do I make it recognise c++? |
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| 00:18.06 | equex | is there any list of what is the 'main' purpose' behind each 7 debain dvd's (not just the package listings).. the main page says dvd1 is enough to install a basic system, but thats the lowdown on the other 8? and do i need the update dvds on top of dvd 1 and 2 or is just the update dvds enough > |
| 00:18.09 | equex | ? |
| 00:18.35 | equex | each 8 dvds. dang, cant type to day. |
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| 00:27.07 | equex | i have shorewall complainingn that eth1 is not up during boot. should not that just be to edit /etc/interfaces ? i did that but still no avail. any other files i need to know about ? |
| 00:28.12 | ByteEater | hi, all! |
| 00:28.20 | ByteEater | I've got a quick question: what's the name of a Debian variant even smaller than Minimal, which is ofter installed on VPS as a default? |
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| 00:29.59 | equex | ByteEater, Business Card? |
| 00:30.17 | equex | businesscard CD image (via bittorrent) |
| 00:30.18 | equex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.18 | equex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.18 | equex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.18 | equex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.19 | equex | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:30.53 | LtL | equex: if i understand your question correctly, dvd1, or cd1 .iso's contain enough packages to get a basic system up and running, the other dvd's and or cd's contain the balance of approximately 29,000 packages if you include, main, contrib and non-free repo's. I have never needed to burn and boot off anything more than cd1.iso, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, enable contrib, non-free sources to pull everything else off the net without ever having to grab addition |
| 00:30.58 | somiaj | ByteEater: sometimes called the base system. |
| 00:31.15 | equex | oopsorry about spam |
| 00:31.27 | a5m0 | somiaj, is there a way to tell which opencl i should install for the fglrx that goes with squeeze? i tried installing the newest one from AMD but it gives me CAL version mismatch: |
| 00:31.27 | a5m0 | This OpenCL build requires version 1.4.879, version 1.4.815 installed. |
| 00:31.54 | somiaj | if there isn't a version that works in squeeze you may have to backport it |
| 00:32.39 | LtL | well, that was alot of wasted typing \o/ |
| 00:33.03 | equex | LtL, okies. what about the update DVD's ? i see theres now update DVD images for DVD one and two. are those replacements or addons ? |
| 00:33.04 | somiaj | ,versions amd-opencl-icd |
| 00:33.05 | judd | Package: amd-opencl-icd on i386 -- sid/non-free: 1:12-2-2; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-2-2 |
| 00:33.24 | somiaj | ,check-backport amd-opencl-icd |
| 00:33.25 | judd | Backporting package amd-opencl-icd in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, archignore, squeeze-backports. |
| 00:33.45 | alberth_ | OK, apparently my command screwed up. How can I reinstall the base system and the categories the CLI installer shows? |
| 00:33.46 | somiaj | a5m0: looks like you can backport it from wheezy |
| 00:33.52 | LtL | equex: updates point releases will automatically be pulled off the net by your package manager. |
| 00:33.59 | abrotman | equex: those are for updating from previous releases |
| 00:34.12 | a5m0 | somiaj, how do i do that? |
| 00:34.19 | somiaj | !tell a5m0 about ssbp |
| 00:34.26 | equex | abrotman, ah okies, thanks i see. |
| 00:34.44 | equex | this is a virgin install |
| 00:35.16 | alberth_ | anyone have any ideas? |
| 00:35.22 | equex | i do have a working install from netinst but i messed up the users. |
| 00:35.50 | kd123 | why is the grub package for debian squeeze on the US site unavailable? |
| 00:36.20 | kd123 | nevermind |
| 00:36.22 | kd123 | I got it |
| 00:36.30 | equex | cant log in as root, cant log in as the other account i specified. luckily i made a 'test' account on to so i just used that and did su... but i rather get a perfect intall hehe |
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| 00:45.19 | equex | bbl, installing debian |
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| 00:56.09 | kd123 | What is the default root passwd |
| 00:56.22 | kd123 | I forgot to set the root passwd on a new debian install |
| 00:56.56 | somiaj | you pick the password when you install, there is no default |
| 00:57.16 | kd123 | somiaj, I did a debootstrap install and I didn't run 'passwd' :) |
| 00:57.27 | kd123 | now it's prompting me for onw |
| 00:57.29 | kd123 | edit: one |
| 00:58.35 | LtL | kd123: http://wiki.debian.org/Root?action=show&redirect=root |
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| 01:02.28 | kd123 | LtL, if I didn't provide a root password... what would it be? I didn't set the root password and the forget it. |
| 01:03.15 | LtL | kd123: then the root account is disabled, never been there... try 'passwd root' |
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| 01:07.21 | zzing | Wouldn't that have to be sudo passwd root? |
| 01:07.55 | LtL | zzing: new user wouldn't be in sudoers at that point. |
| 01:08.13 | LtL | the password might be the first user's pass |
| 01:08.19 | zzing | How would they have any permission to set the root password? |
| 01:08.53 | LtL | zzing: read the url i posted. |
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| 01:09.31 | paoletta | ciao |
| 01:09.33 | paoletta | !list |
| 01:09.34 | dpkg | paoletta: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
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| 01:10.06 | zzing | sounds exactly like the mac |
| 01:11.23 | LtL | Could be, mac osx is unix based afaik |
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| 01:11.50 | zzing | AFAIK it has actually been unix certified |
| 01:12.05 | zzing | whatever it means to be able to call yourselfa unix that is |
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| 01:12.39 | LtL | POSIX compliant i believe |
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| 01:13.58 | zzing | "Single UNIX Specification" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification |
| 01:14.34 | zzing | It appears SUS is free, vs. the POSIX |
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| 01:20.03 | kd123 | Ltl, ok I'll just chroot in and run passwd |
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| 01:21.08 | LtL | kd123: let me know how that works for you, g'luck |
| 01:21.38 | kd123 | LtL, ok thanks |
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| 01:22.55 | LtL | off-topic really but the first things i learned years ago is, 1) Never use root's name in vain. 2) Be careful what you type, you just might get it. :-) |
| 01:23.22 | kd123 | lol |
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| 01:24.04 | LtL | kd123: try su - and give it your pass, see if that works |
| 01:24.27 | LtL | kd123: if it does, do passwd root |
| 01:25.14 | kd123 | LtL, I've already booted it up via a live cd and I'm mounting and preparing to chroot |
| 01:25.54 | kd123 | LtL, It's a fresh install without Gnome and I was simply a text login screen asking my Login and Password |
| 01:26.45 | kd123 | I couldn't issue any commands, until I logged in |
| 01:26.58 | kd123 | as root |
| 01:27.03 | kd123 | I also didn't have a user account setup yet either |
| 01:27.09 | LtL | ew |
| 01:27.23 | LtL | sketchy situation |
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| 01:28.31 | kd123 | yeah... but I've done it before :P |
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| 01:33.42 | kd123 | LtL, do you know what packages you need for a wpa2 wireless connection |
| 01:33.54 | kd123 | don't you just need wireless-tools and wpasupplicant |
| 01:34.04 | LtL | kd123: wpa-supplicant |
| 01:34.14 | LtL | possibly more |
| 01:35.35 | kd123 | LtL, ok thanks... do you know how to set up a wpa connection without a network-manager? |
| 01:36.22 | LtL | kd123: i've always setup wireless while on the wire, but i've always used a GUI |
| 01:36.40 | kd123 | LtL, ah ok |
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| 01:37.06 | kd123 | thanks for the help |
| 01:37.29 | kd123 | I managed to chroot in and set the root password too |
| 01:37.35 | LtL | kd123: I'm not much help but you're welcome. |
| 01:37.54 | LtL | kd123: congratulations. |
| 01:38.11 | kd123 | thanks |
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| 01:42.29 | User_CL | hi my frien !!! |
| 01:43.02 | User_CL | one question... where get date daemon "cron" ?? |
| 01:43.40 | kd123 | User_CL, you can download it via this command 'sudo apt-get install cron' |
| 01:44.12 | User_CL | have cron running... but have problem with "time", exist one differece 1 hour |
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| 01:44.42 | User_CL | between date cron and date system (date) |
| 01:45.03 | kd123 | oh, I don't know |
| 01:45.17 | User_CL | ok, thank my friend |
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| 01:45.36 | kd123 | sorry :) |
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| 01:45.51 | Golden|Wolf | hey does anyone know intel 6150 is supported by latest debian realese? had issues it with mint |
| 01:45.58 | User_CL | not sorry |
| 01:47.00 | kd123 | Golden|Wolf, is that a cpu or gpu? |
| 01:47.11 | Golden|Wolf | wifi card |
| 01:47.42 | kd123 | ah, you'd have to check debian firmware packages |
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| 01:47.54 | User_CL | helpme please... |
| 01:47.58 | dvs | kd123: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi?action=show&redirect=iwlagn#Squeeze |
| 01:48.07 | dvs | oops |
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| 01:48.32 | dvs | Golden|Wolf: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi?action=show&redirect=iwlagn#Squeeze |
| 01:48.55 | Golden|Wolf | whats the kernel on latest debian? |
| 01:49.01 | kd123 | :) |
| 01:49.09 | kd123 | 2.6.32 on squeeze stable |
| 01:49.44 | Golden|Wolf | thanks |
| 01:49.46 | somiaj | you can get a 3.2 kernel and newer firmware from squeeze-backports if needed |
| 01:50.10 | nsadmin | Golden|Wolf. stable is a stationary target... good for doing real work, and for servers |
| 01:50.50 | Golden|Wolf | yuh stable is good thanks |
| 01:51.16 | nsadmin | there are later... but risk you take is less testing to make sure things work together |
| 01:51.54 | nsadmin | and, support is cntingent on you checking BTS before posting questions |
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| 01:52.50 | maurer | Does anyone have any way to reinstall everything? I had some stuff bindmounted and think I may have shot some important files by accident |
| 01:54.36 | dondelelcaro | !reinstall |
| 01:54.37 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone>, <debian clone>. |
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| 01:57.04 | kd123 | I have a debian install without a window manager. When I boot into it everything is ok, but I would like to make the text on the screen smaller |
| 01:57.16 | nsadmin | your gun barrel will be filed if you shoot files! |
| 01:57.32 | kd123 | Is there a way to make your text smaller? |
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| 01:58.02 | dondelelcaro | !fbcon resolution |
| 01:58.02 | dpkg | well, fbcon resolution is run "aptitude install hwinfo && hwinfo --framebuffer" as root, choose a mode from the resulting list of available modes. The mode will be named in hex, something like 0x305. Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with "# kopt=" and add "vga=0x305" (substituting your chosen mode), then run "update-grub" and reboot. |
| 01:58.03 | nsadmin | are you also not running X? |
| 01:58.04 | dondelelcaro | kd123: see above |
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| 01:58.44 | kd123 | dondelelcaro, ok great thank you |
| 01:58.53 | kd123 | nsadmin, no I'm not running X |
| 02:00.36 | dondelelcaro | kd123: that assumes you're running a framebuffer; the grub editing line is a bit wrong for squeeze |
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| 02:05.54 | kd123 | dondelelcaro, what's a framebuffer? |
| 02:06.33 | kd123 | I'm using an intel GMA chipset |
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| 02:11.18 | multi_io | when is the initrd image supposed to be generated? |
| 02:11.51 | multi_io | during dpkg -i <the kernel package>, /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools just exits without doing anything here. |
| 02:12.04 | multi_io | I get no initrd image in /boot . |
| 02:12.23 | multi_io | kernel 3.2.12. |
| 02:13.18 | multi_io | the kernel package I built from the source package using make-dpkg, it is named linux-image-3.2.12_3.2.12-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb. |
| 02:14.35 | kd123 | multi_io, run 'update-initramfs' and that should get you an initrd.img |
| 02:15.40 | dvs | and update-grub |
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| 02:16.16 | multi_io | yeah, it should've done those things during the dpkg -i I figure :P |
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| 02:16.29 | multi_io | well, it did run the grub update |
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| 02:38.43 | yeshellothere | bloody cdn.debian.net |
| 02:38.45 | yeshellothere | i don't trust it |
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| 02:40.59 | nsadmin | (obviously) you don't have to trust anything |
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| 02:41.54 | yeshellothere | nsadmin: i mean 'trust it to work', i switched a few boxes to it and they all seem to get 50kbit/s max |
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| 02:43.58 | nsadmin | so isnj |
| 02:44.00 | nsadmin | err |
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| 02:44.09 | nsadmin | so it's not the content you don't trust? |
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| 04:46.40 | kripz | can i somehow watch for updates for certain packages? i want email notification, rss or mailing list somewhere? |
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| 04:54.32 | samantha-r- | question about a socks or other web proxy ala dante: i need to put a web proxy up on an open, public port, and restrict use to authorized users only (duh). authorized users will come in from random IPs. is this possible? |
| 04:56.36 | somiaj | kripz: in squeeze most updates are security updates so you can hear about those from the DSA mailing list. |
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| 05:11.11 | mick_laptop | samantha-r-: check out squid |
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| 05:22.05 | loin | hello, i did a minimal debian install with an openbox environment but i can't mount drives by default |
| 05:22.35 | loin | i think i need some sort of policy agent to enable me to do that |
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| 05:22.57 | somiaj | loin: what do you mean by can't mount drives? Are you expecting an automounter? |
| 05:23.32 | loin | somiaj, i mean if i want to click on a usb drive in the file manager i get Failed to mount: Not Authorized. |
| 05:24.36 | somiaj | what is the file manager open box uses? You may just have to add yourself to a correct group, but I'm not faimilar with using file managers. |
| 05:25.47 | loin | somiaj, any file manager |
| 05:25.58 | loin | the problem lies with policykit |
| 05:26.07 | loin | by default it doesnt give permissions to mount |
| 05:26.14 | loin | so you need some sort of agent |
| 05:26.18 | loin | as far as i read |
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| 05:34.42 | lcc | does debian squeeze support mounting, reading and writing to ext4? |
| 05:34.55 | kripz | yes |
| 05:35.08 | lcc | neat |
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| 05:40.00 | somiaj | by default the installer chooses ext3 lcc, but you can choose ext4 as an alternative |
| 05:40.09 | lcc | somiaj: ok |
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| 06:20.47 | Udoblunt | sometimes, when I'm watching a movie, or just compiling some program my box just freezes like a mofo bsod |
| 06:20.55 | Udoblunt | i cant find nothing in Xorg.log or dmesg |
| 06:20.59 | Udoblunt | any ideas ? :/ |
| 06:21.25 | Udoblunt | I use VLC to play movies, and just normal stuff for compiling |
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| 06:21.51 | Udoblunt | at first i was like 'HARD RESET' but then i was like wtf this shouldnt be happening |
| 06:21.54 | Udoblunt | now Im a little drunk |
| 06:22.13 | combro | finally i found this chanel :x |
| 06:22.17 | Udoblunt | xD |
| 06:22.42 | combro | hu guys i am new here,need to know about debian :"> |
| 06:22.44 | somiaj | Udoblunt: do you have a secondary computer...if you have an ssh server running it is a way you can check to see if xorg crashed. |
| 06:22.45 | Udoblunt | welcome to the world of debby ians ! |
| 06:23.06 | Udoblunt | somiaj: currently, no |
| 06:23.18 | Udoblunt | somiaj: in 2 weeks i'll have my desktop back up and running again, need new CPU |
| 06:23.34 | somiaj | Udoblunt: if xorg is crashing it could be your video card drivers (and or card), or something with that. If the whole computer crashes it could be a kernel. What version of debian do you run? |
| 06:23.49 | Udoblunt | running squeeze |
| 06:24.01 | Udoblunt | kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 06:24.10 | somiaj | Udoblunt: are you suing squeeze-backports or any other unoffical repo? |
| 06:24.15 | Udoblunt | yes |
| 06:24.29 | Udoblunt | it happens the most when watching matroska format using VLC |
| 06:24.40 | somiaj | Udoblunt: well squeeze-backports are fairly good packages, It sounds a bit like bad hardware to me, you can install then run memtest86 to see if it is memeory |
| 06:24.41 | Udoblunt | but now, just compiling a kernel will make it crash (if im not around) |
| 06:24.46 | Udoblunt | if i wait for it, nothing will happen -m- |
| 06:25.10 | Udoblunt | somiaj: allready did the test.. no errors after 9 hours |
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| 06:25.43 | Udoblunt | could it be fam/gamin ? |
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| 06:28.00 | somiaj | Udoblunt: What video card/driver do you use? |
| 06:28.08 | Udoblunt | nvidia |
| 06:28.21 | Udoblunt | 8400M G to be specifig |
| 06:28.25 | Udoblunt | g=c |
| 06:28.48 | somiaj | what packages from squeeze-backports are you using? |
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| 06:29.08 | Udoblunt | somiaj: any command to look that up ? :/ cause I honestly dont have any idea |
| 06:29.36 | somiaj | Udoblunt: anyways it could be that card is going....I have had video ram go on my gpu and cause many issues. |
| 06:30.15 | combro | i use nvidia yoo :"> |
| 06:30.19 | combro | *too |
| 06:30.23 | Udoblunt | somiaj: could be that my hardware is failing, ive had this laptop for about 4 years now |
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| 06:31.14 | Udoblunt | somiaj: everything is fine as long as i dont stress my machine too much.. |
| 06:31.29 | combro | never crash |
| 06:31.32 | somiaj | Udoblunt: well stock squeeze shouldn't be crashing like you say. Usually when I start running into random crashes it is either using unstable software (So I know I installed upgraded) or bad hardware. In squeeze this is more likley bad hardware. |
| 06:32.01 | Udoblunt | somiaj: k, i will find some software to burn my hardware X) |
| 06:32.10 | combro | :D |
| 06:32.24 | combro | dont burn,just send to me:D |
| 06:32.28 | Udoblunt | my new desktop CPU should be arriving in 3 days or so :) |
| 06:32.32 | Udoblunt | hehe |
| 06:32.36 | Udoblunt | i like burning it better X) |
| 06:32.47 | Udoblunt | ever tried motherboard soccer ? |
| 06:33.00 | Udoblunt | its just like normal soccer, but with motherboard, and no rules, jiust kick the motherfucking thing :D |
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| 06:34.48 | combro | anyone already try for istall debian dvd version with flashdisk n work?? |
| 06:34.57 | combro | *install |
| 06:36.12 | somiaj | combro: the .iso files for the debian installers can be written to a usb stick and work just fine |
| 06:36.26 | combro | owh good info |
| 06:36.26 | Udoblunt | combro: I've installed my debian from usb stick |
| 06:36.39 | Udoblunt | somiaj: dont have a working cd rom drive X) |
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| 06:36.58 | somiaj | Udoblunt: yea I like having a live image floating around for rescue reasons (since I run sid and all) |
| 06:37.10 | combro | same like me,i dont have dvdrom |
| 06:37.27 | Udoblunt | i like it cause its asll i have in emergency XD |
| 06:38.14 | Udoblunt | i have the drkive, it just broke after 6 months |
| 06:38.37 | Udoblunt | brb, eating! |
| 06:38.47 | combro | i was download cd1 iso debian squeeze,but i confuse in partition part,i cant use manual partition,just can create / partition only,wht?? |
| 06:39.07 | Udoblunt | hold on |
| 06:39.16 | Udoblunt | is searching for the file he used |
| 06:39.46 | combro | *why?? not whtXD |
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| 06:41.13 | Giovanik2012 | ciao |
| 06:41.15 | Udoblunt | well, if u can get it to boot from usb stick, i cant help u atm, i dont know the why X) |
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| 06:41.17 | Giovanik2012 | !list |
| 06:41.18 | dpkg | giovanik2012: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 06:41.38 | Udoblunt | thats yhe one lol |
| 06:41.44 | FNG-BxNY | can I ask 4 some help here plz?? |
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| 06:42.03 | Udoblunt | FNG-BxNY: ask ur question, if anyone knows they will reply |
| 06:42.09 | FNG-BxNY | ok... |
| 06:42.15 | Udoblunt | or like my be a total drunk ass and reply anyway lol |
| 06:42.16 | combro | wich cd iso debian squeeze part number include DE Gnome i must download?? i already have cd1 |
| 06:42.23 | FNG-BxNY | let me do a little copy & paste... |
| 06:42.30 | combro | halo om agus:D |
| 06:42.57 | Udoblunt | combro: ur just looking for German language packages ? |
| 06:43.26 | combro | no,just DE gnome package |
| 06:43.47 | combro | wich cd part i must download?? |
| 06:44.07 | FNG-BxNY | Upgrading PCs running Debian going from Lenny to Squeeze, I decided to make one the "canary in the coal-mine": it has a SoYo MB; i845PE chipset; 1GB RAM; AWARD BIOS; ATI Radeon HD 4650 AGP 512 Card ( Diamond MM OEM ) -- I followed the "rules" and hints about upgrading from Lenny -> Squeeze and things went fairly well BUT AFTER RESTARTING -- the login screen for KDE4 appears; I try to login... |
| 06:44.08 | FNG-BxNY | ...-- IT TAKES ME BACK TO THE login screen AFTER "blinking" THE SCREEN-- THE User / Password IS CORRECT........What Gives??? |
| 06:44.08 | combro | i already have cd1 squeeze for installer |
| 06:44.54 | somiaj | combro: just use that |
| 06:45.05 | somiaj | combro: you can install everything after the base system (Which is more than cd1 has) from the internet |
| 06:45.17 | somiaj | FGH`: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 06:45.39 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: ^^ |
| 06:45.52 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: well can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get a console and login just fine that way? |
| 06:46.12 | kleanchap | I want to start the evolution application soon after the system boots up i.e. even if the user does not login. Is this possible? |
| 06:47.10 | FNG-BxNY | somiaj: been trying to do the "fixes" ( which has failed ) in the console root ( no X Windows running -- feel more compfortable that way... ) |
| 06:47.15 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: starting an app w/o a user ? |
| 06:47.20 | FNG-BxNY | @somiaj: been trying to do the "fixes" ( which has failed ) in the console root ( no X Windows running -- feel more compfortable that way... ) |
| 06:47.31 | somiaj | kleanchap: doesn't evolution need a running xorg and then user loged in? |
| 06:47.53 | kleanchap | Udoblunt, The user account exists but did not login. |
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| 06:48.17 | kleanchap | somiaj, I do have X installed on the computer. |
| 06:48.21 | combro | ok thx for ur info somiaj |
| 06:48.22 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 06:48.27 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: I do not see this happening, like somiaj said |
| 06:49.04 | somiaj | kleanchap: yes but evolution requires a user inside a running xorg session to run. It isn't a daemon or something that can run in the background wihtout a user being loged into X |
| 06:49.15 | FNG-BxNY | hmmm... |
| 06:49.33 | Udoblunt | lol somiaj u say what i mean with words that make sense X) |
| 06:49.39 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: also /etc/init.d/kdm stop (stop the display manager), then see if you can get x to run with 'startx' |
| 06:49.50 | kleanchap | Udoblunt, somiaj: got it. |
| 06:49.51 | FNG-BxNY | seems that ppl have had the same problem as me -- but I cant find the solution... |
| 06:50.13 | FNG-BxNY | startx runs -- but keeps putting back in login screen |
| 06:50.21 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: what did u do ? |
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| 06:50.42 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: what login screen does startx put you at? |
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| 06:51.10 | kleanchap | Udoblunt, I did not do anything. I meant to say Thank you but wrote got it instead. :-) |
| 06:51.12 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: seems to me like an xorg server issue, see anything in the logfile that cna help you? |
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| 06:51.21 | FNG-BxNY | KDE4 |
| 06:51.30 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: ah ok X) |
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| 06:51.57 | FNG-BxNY | sorry -- not running DebIan rite now -- mulitboot machine -- running WinXP now :( |
| 06:52.08 | combro | how to fix dpkg error when install some program?? |
| 06:52.36 | somiaj | FNG-BxNY: well again I would stop the display manager and see if it is an issue with xorg. If it isn't then it is an issue with the display manager. At least that narrows down, check log files. |
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| 06:52.50 | somiaj | combro: what command did you type and what error (use a pastebin) |
| 06:53.25 | FNG-BxNY | hmmm |
| 06:53.30 | combro | ok,tonight i'll do paste bin |
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| 06:54.21 | combro | when i try install some program,i have warning : dpkg error but the program is work well |
| 06:54.49 | Udoblunt | combro: pastebin some logs plz |
| 06:55.17 | combro | i cant for now,i use window |
| 06:55.40 | Udoblunt | could u give us any more information ? |
| 06:55.46 | combro | i do tonight |
| 06:55.56 | Udoblunt | ok |
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| 06:56.00 | Udoblunt | for me its 8AM :) |
| 06:56.13 | Udoblunt | and i'm thinking, do i go to bed, or do i stay up ? |
| 06:56.20 | combro | its 1.01 |
| 06:56.24 | Udoblunt | hehe |
| 06:56.27 | Udoblunt | Belgium :) |
| 06:56.37 | Udoblunt | oh wait, the +1 |
| 06:56.41 | Udoblunt | its 9AM X) |
| 06:57.11 | combro | 1.01 PM hereXD |
| 06:57.49 | combro | how to use proxytunnel combine with ssh?? |
| 06:57.58 | Udoblunt | well, who knew, internet is international XD |
| 06:58.08 | combro | yup:D |
| 06:58.58 | combro | anyone can give me the link for learn about tunneling connection on debian squeeze?? |
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| 07:03.16 | Udoblunt | combro: Im not familiar with it but willing to google for u |
| 07:03.24 | Udoblunt | :/ |
| 07:03.54 | mah454 | I have Qualcomm HSDPA modem . How can enable this in Debian ? |
| 07:04.00 | combro | ok i will try |
| 07:05.07 | mah454 | GSM modem with sim card |
| 07:05.31 | combro | hmmmm Qualcomm,many try i use n finally work |
| 07:05.51 | valdyn | mah454: whats your desktop environment? |
| 07:06.02 | combro | i use usb mode switch,wvdial etc n ixconn |
| 07:06.08 | mah454 | valdyn, gnome 3 |
| 07:06.08 | combro | Gnome n KDE |
| 07:06.15 | mah454 | valdyn, Debian testing |
| 07:06.16 | combro | i already try |
| 07:06.44 | valdyn | mah454: gnome3 has network-manager, which in turn has support for a huge number of mobile networks |
| 07:07.24 | valdyn | mah454: you need to modemmanager for this, but its probably already installed, go and see |
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| 07:08.14 | mah454 | valdyn, what driver ? (in /dev/*) |
| 07:08.17 | mah454 | I use USB modem |
| 07:08.31 | valdyn | mah454: its a ttyUSBX |
| 07:09.02 | mah454 | valdyn, I have not this ! |
| 07:09.24 | valdyn | mah454: you may need to use usb-modeswitch first ( or plug in the modem first ) |
| 07:09.46 | mah454 | valdyn, How can config this ? |
| 07:09.59 | mah454 | I need sample configuration in /etc/ |
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| 07:10.19 | valdyn | mah454: i have no idea, i just plug in any modem and it works |
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| 07:11.35 | combro | any modem with any series not plug nplay on linux,u must eject 1st n do modprobe usbeserial vendor0xID-vendor product0xID-product |
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| 07:12.09 | combro | eject 1st if modem with memory card slot |
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| 07:12.50 | combro | if not,u dont need to eject,just modprobe n see with wvddialconf |
| 07:13.45 | combro | see if u got a massage ===> found modem on ttyUSBx |
| 07:13.58 | combro | *message |
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| 07:14.23 | combro | x is 0 or 1 or 2 ur modem attached |
| 07:15.06 | combro | with usb mode switch installed,no need to eject anymore |
| 07:15.41 | combro | *wvdialconf |
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| 07:25.39 | Funkadelic | I'm looking for a music player that works well with really big music library. I like the feel of Foobar and Clementine. Any suggestions? |
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| 07:28.43 | cousin_luigi | Good morning. |
| 07:29.17 | cousin_luigi | Anyone got an idea how a local host could have a different ssh fingerprint after a while? |
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| 07:31.02 | mjt | it can't unless someone replaced it or at least its ssh host keys |
| 07:31.15 | mjt | or there's something in-between pretending to be that host |
| 07:33.02 | Udoblunt | Funkadelic: I've never heard of those 2, but i use rhythmbox |
| 07:34.13 | WeakTea | how hard would it be to install eden on squeeze? |
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| 07:34.38 | kpow | can any1 recommend a good pdf reader for 64bit? (acroread is only 32) |
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| 07:39.02 | BeastNZ | foxit pdf? |
| 07:39.48 | cousin_luigi | mjt: Anything that might have triggered a new keygen on the host? |
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| 07:42.06 | kpow | BeastNZ, ty |
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| 07:46.04 | mjt | cousin_luigi: reinstall, or removal of the keys |
| 07:48.29 | Funkadelic | rhythmbox is good, but i'm looking for something that can quickly add a big music collection to its library quickly |
| 07:48.42 | Funkadelic | I have a huge music library |
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| 07:49.40 | cousin_luigi | mjt: I suspect I didn't have it in the first place:| |
| 07:49.49 | cousin_luigi | mjt: not on this client, that is |
| 07:50.18 | mjt | only you know your system. |
| 07:50.38 | cousin_luigi | thanks, bbk |
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| 07:56.41 | daniel-s | hi |
| 07:56.56 | daniel-s | what's the name of the python package I want to install that has easy_install in it? |
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| 08:05.51 | _mpu | Hi, why is git-daemon using runit instead of a simple init script? |
| 08:06.03 | _mpu | Are these good reasons for this? |
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| 08:08.11 | geek0091 | component dev decided to use runit instead, probably for logging and cleaner startup |
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| 08:29.36 | Funkadelic | in gmpc's preferenced, i'm connected to localhost port 6600 with mpd, and my music library is set to where my music library is. But when I go to the Databases tab on the left, it shows a folder labeled with "/", or root, but I can't open that folder. What's up w that? |
| 08:30.15 | _mpu | geek0091, Still, it does not integrate smoothly because of this. |
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| 08:39.38 | haotian | I want to use my dvd image to install debian on a computer that doesn't have dvd drive. I found 35mb or something like that boot image, I will boot with that the computer using flash disk ! And then I will Put that 4.7gb Dvd debian image to the flash drive and install debian on the machine. Will that work ? Machine has currently Win XP installed. |
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| 08:53.24 | Funkadelic | What's the point to a channel limit? |
| 08:53.57 | Funkadelic | I see debhelper changes it every once in a while to keep it just a little above the current users |
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| 08:55.49 | haotian | I want to use my dvd image to install debian on a computer that doesn't have dvd drive. I found 35mb or something like that boot image, I will boot with that the computer using flash disk ! And then I will Put that 4.7gb Dvd debian image to the flash drive and install debian on the machine. Will that work ? Machine has currently Win XP installed. |
| 08:57.51 | nsadmin | Funkadelic, necessary annoyance |
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| 08:58.38 | Funkadelic | Why doesn't it just set a really high user limit? like 3000 or something |
| 08:58.50 | vlt | Welcome summer(time)! Can anyone give me an example line for dhcpd to set "option 2" to 7200 seconds (0x1c20)? |
| 09:00.35 | nsadmin | that's pretty much the same question as why have a limit |
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| 09:01.35 | Funkadelic | why do we have a limit? |
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| 09:02.18 | petemc | to prevent join floods |
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| 09:15.28 | bn` | yes. all larger channels have an adjusting userlimit |
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| 09:23.07 | namoamitabuddha | Is there anyway to set network-manager measure the strength of wireless by dB? |
| 09:23.16 | namoamitabuddha | s/anyway/any way/ |
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| 09:43.54 | r4co0n | Hello. My other, wheezy, system told me yesterday I may need to upgrade my BIOS. So I obtained an .iso file from fujitsu and now want to boot from it. But dd doesnt seem to copy like I want to my USB-stick. Any hints which parameters I can try to pass in order to suffice? Strange thing, I repeated trying with plain dd, but managed the flasher to write to my screen only once, doesn't seem to be reproducible. |
| 09:44.33 | jelly-home | r4co0n: how EXACTLY did the system tell you that? |
| 09:44.36 | r4co0n | flasher talked after rebooting from usb |
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| 09:44.50 | r4co0n | mom |
| 09:44.58 | jelly-home | ... that you may need to upgrade you BIOS |
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| 09:46.04 | r4co0n | kernel: ATOM PSE erratum detected, BIOS microcode update recommended |
| 09:46.11 | r4co0n | i skipped the numbers... |
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| 09:49.04 | r4co0n | jelly-home, or was I misinterpreting this msg? |
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| 09:51.13 | r4co0n | before upgrading to wheezy, the kernel sometimes told me the system might be broken, SIGHUP detected if i recall correctly |
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| 09:51.38 | r4co0n | i was told here an upgrade may fix this |
| 09:52.11 | bunny69 | do you have an idea how to ln -s a directory outside ftp root? proftpd |
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| 09:56.23 | r4co0n | btw, what is PSE? Philippine Stock Exchange? Personal and Social Education? Porn Star Experience? ;) |
| 09:58.07 | bunny69 | how do you reverse mount --bind ? |
| 09:58.19 | bunny69 | should i just delete that dir? |
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| 09:58.49 | bunny69 | oh it won't let me... |
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| 10:00.13 | mjt | r4co0n: google is a good search engine, didn't you know? http://blog.incase.de/index.php/cpu-feature-flags-and-their-meanings/ |
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| 10:01.00 | r4co0n | mjt, my google foo is too weak, I couldn't get my head around proper search strings, thank you |
| 10:01.35 | mjt | well, "ATOM PSE" is already very good search string |
| 10:02.33 | bunny69 | mjt actually google sucks ass... |
| 10:02.37 | r4co0n | mjt, was my first try |
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| 10:02.53 | r4co0n | nevermind |
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| 10:03.12 | bunny69 | mjt i tried results on 3 different machines and there is no same result listing on any of those... they taylor results per user which is sick |
| 10:03.31 | bunny69 | and afaik you can't disable that "feature" |
| 10:04.08 | bunny69 | oh and they started to filter results heavily :) |
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| 10:05.18 | r4co0n | and they removed /linux from their site, which often helped |
| 10:05.56 | jelly-home | r4co0n: installing microcode.ctl would update the microcode as well |
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| 10:06.51 | r4co0n | jelly-home, as far as I've read into it, this updates the microcode after the kernel has worked around it, so semi-optimal |
| 10:06.55 | jelly-home | r4co0n: but I'm guessing that may be too late for the kernel |
| 10:06.58 | jelly-home | yeah |
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| 10:07.30 | r4co0n | what command would you use to copy the iso to an usb stick. |
| 10:07.52 | r4co0n | i really need to obtain an external cdrom-drive. |
| 10:08.28 | jelly-home | it depends on the bios, it might detect an iso if you just dd it directly, or it might not |
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| 10:08.43 | r4co0n | it does for debian-netinst |
| 10:09.03 | jelly-home | netinst is a hybrid image, works both as iso and as bootable HDD |
| 10:09.05 | r4co0n | and it was booting once, which dazzles me the most |
| 10:09.48 | r4co0n | can one create a proper usb-stick dressed up as a cd. |
| 10:09.54 | r4co0n | it is detected as usb-hdd |
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| 10:10.00 | mjt | bunny69: http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html -- I guess you'll enjoy the article... :) |
| 10:10.46 | mjt | (it is an excellent read for anyone actually) |
| 10:11.01 | r4co0n | needs to use question marks again |
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| 10:11.16 | de | ciao |
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| 10:11.51 | de | !canale! |
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| 10:18.47 | bunny69 | mjt i definetly will check that one, thanks |
| 10:19.16 | bunny69 | ok.. another question: is there such thing as multicore gzip or rar? |
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| 10:20.49 | jelly-home | ,info pigz |
| 10:20.50 | judd | Package pigz (utils, extra) in squeeze/i386: Parallel Implementation of GZip. Version: 2.1.6-1; Size: 27.8k; Installed: 108k; Homepage: http://zlib.net/pigz/ |
| 10:20.52 | r4co0n | bunny69, pigz ? |
| 10:20.59 | jelly-home | ,info pbzip2 |
| 10:21.00 | judd | Package pbzip2 (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: parallel bzip2 implementation. Version: 1.1.1-1; Size: 36.9k; Installed: 116k; Homepage: http://compression.ca/pbzip2/ |
| 10:21.10 | bunny69 | jelly, r4co0n thank you, i'm currrently using pigz but... |
| 10:21.29 | jelly-home | but it makes you unable to finish sentences! |
| 10:21.34 | samantha-r- | is there a way to download all .torrent files from a (authenticated, sorry no wget scrapers will work) web page using firefox? |
| 10:21.42 | bunny69 | ...but this is for my users and they are stuck to zip/rar |
| 10:22.09 | jelly-home | samantha-r-: tell wget to use your firefox cookies somehow. |
| 10:22.13 | Woet | my dmesg is spammed with this, any idea? [1870208.903395] rt6_redirect: source isn't a valid nexthop for redirect target |
| 10:22.42 | bunny69 | so two choices: either pigz or bz2 |
| 10:22.48 | bunny69 | or single core... |
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| 10:26.21 | r4co0n | Ive got one approach left. Can I make my usb-pendrive behave like a floppy disk? This is the second way described in the flashing manual. |
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| 10:27.13 | r4co0n | Ive found only howtos for redmondsoft, but no system running this atm. |
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| 10:50.44 | samantha-r- | is there a torrent client into which i can load a bunch ( > 2000) of torrents and then have it download them sequentially? |
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| 10:52.55 | ompaul | samantha-r-: you want to do get me disk1 disk2 and you have a list of these in a file? |
| 10:53.13 | samantha-r- | ompaul, er? |
| 10:53.31 | ompaul | samantha-r-: I think you need to script something on that scale |
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| 10:53.45 | ompaul | use a command line client |
| 10:55.18 | Trewas | samantha-r-: at least azureus and transmission have queues and you can configure how many are downloaded at the same time etc |
| 10:56.26 | samantha-r- | yeah but will they hold that many torrents at once? that's my bugaboo. |
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| 10:58.02 | samantha-r- | i need to finish scraping the torrents, that'll take a couple minutes |
| 10:58.11 | Trewas | can't say I have used them with even >10 torrents at the same time |
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| 11:01.38 | Woet | samantha-r-: where did you find 2000 legitimate torrents? |
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| 11:02.38 | samantha-r- | Woet, i am a collector of Dave Matthews Band live recordings. sadly, about a year ago i lost a massive amount of data in a rather unfortunate raid misconfiguration. the easiest way to recover it is to scrape the trading site and let 'er rip. |
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| 11:05.08 | samantha-r- | it's probably easier for me to run this on debian in a vpc on my windows desktop than run it on my server. hmm. |
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| 11:07.03 | frostschutz | samantha-r-: with some scripting http://www.stabellini.net/rtorrent-howto.txt |
| 11:07.16 | frostschutz | samantha-r-: never tried that myself though |
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| 11:09.22 | Kotus | hello, i would like to add "would like to add deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import" to repositories, apt-get update asks for a key how can i automatically get it? |
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| 11:10.40 | mick_laptop | anyone know of a way to do something like: 'sed -e 's/foo//g' but w/ video? :) |
| 11:10.53 | mick_laptop | is there a scriptable video interface somewhere? |
| 11:11.11 | mick_laptop | I'd like to cut the first few seconds of a lot of video |
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| 11:16.19 | dmbaturin | How do I install coretemp module? |
| 11:16.56 | jelly-home | dmbaturin: just modprobe it, it's already there |
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| 11:17.36 | jelly-home | dmbaturin: confirm with "modinfo coretemp". If you want it loaded at boot, add it to /etc/modules |
| 11:18.06 | samantha-r- | gah. swedish mirror. slow download. is there a debian mirror hosted by verizon? |
| 11:18.22 | samantha-r- | or hosted on verizon? |
| 11:18.35 | dmbaturin | jelly-home: If it was there, I wouldn't ask. http://pastebin.com/AnyZdKx7 |
| 11:19.09 | dmbaturin | Oh, wait. I goofed out. |
| 11:19.30 | dmbaturin | Anyway, how do I deal with it? |
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| 11:22.34 | jelly-home | dmbaturin: so either your cpu does not support it, or the kernel is too old and does not support your cpu YET |
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| 11:23.17 | jelly-home | that's what "No such device" on modprobeing means |
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| 11:24.04 | dmbaturin | jelly-home: "model_name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHzj", that's what I have. |
| 11:24.04 | jelly-home | dmbaturin: you could try the kernel from squeeze-backports |
| 11:25.09 | dmbaturin | Yeah, that's a good idea. Need to find out what's wrong with it (or my setup) and retry. |
| 11:25.14 | jelly-home | hm, my i3 540 works with coretemp from 2.6.38 onwards (I don't use and never tried squeeze kernels) |
| 11:25.59 | JPT | I've got an ext3 partition that's about 900gb large. There are 42gb of data on it and i plan to cut off about 200gb, so i can create another partition. I want to do this without unmounting the partition. How can i do that? |
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| 11:26.33 | dmbaturin | jelly-home: My 3.0 from backports starts booting, but then I get black screen and unresponsive system. |
| 11:26.47 | jelly-home | 3.0? |
| 11:26.49 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 11:26.50 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.3.0-trunk-686-pae (3.3-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.12-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.12-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.9-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29) |
| 11:27.00 | jelly-home | sounds old |
| 11:27.12 | tremon | JPT: just don't. resize2fs can't shrink an online partition |
| 11:27.29 | tremon | s/online/mounted/ |
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| 11:27.40 | dmbaturin | Well, 3.0 should have been 3.x, I don't remember which one I picked, but that was the most recent at that moment. |
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| 11:27.50 | dmbaturin | Two days ago. |
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| 11:28.06 | JPT | hm..okay |
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| 11:28.26 | jelly-home | JPT: the fastest way to do it is: copy the data, umount, repartition, reformat, copy it back |
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| 11:28.51 | jelly-home | JPT: shrinking via resize2fs is horribly slow |
| 11:29.09 | JPT | well, i'm trying to cheat about the unmount-part because there are about 4 services that i don't want to restart. |
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| 11:29.18 | jelly-home | tough luck |
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| 11:29.36 | JPT | and since the partition is almost empty, i expect my risky plan to work somehow ;) |
| 11:30.24 | mick_laptop | ah cool ffmpeg can do what I'm looking to do |
| 11:30.44 | dmbaturin | JPT: Russian roulette, light edition? ;) |
| 11:31.28 | JPT | exactly. except for that i have backups and the service might even stop for hours. |
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| 11:31.56 | JPT | i'm just to lazy to dig down into the folders to find the scripts to start it |
| 11:32.01 | jelly-home | schedule downtime, contact people, don't do stupid things |
| 11:32.07 | jelly-home | kthxbai |
| 11:32.10 | JPT | okya :) |
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| 11:47.48 | samantha-r- | how reliable is ntfs write now? |
| 11:49.05 | dmbaturin | samantha-r-: Never had problems with ntfs-3g since... Since long time ago. |
| 11:49.10 | dutchfish | samantha-r-, http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
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| 11:50.56 | frostschutz | samantha-r-: my personal experience with ntfs-3g writing is that it's slow and prone to fragmentation. no data corruption though |
| 11:51.39 | samantha-r- | frostschutz, don't give a rat's about performance. i have a fast pipe, i dump crap onto ntfs drives for a stupid idiot who has a slow pipe, but she pays me for the service. i just need her to be able to use the drive when i'm done. |
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| 11:53.04 | samantha-r- | intel i7-960 ... amd64? or i386? |
| 11:53.28 | frostschutz | samantha-r-: sure, esp. if you don't change the partitioning/formatting. windows sometimes doesn't see past the first partition on usb drives |
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| 11:55.27 | jelly-home | samantha-r-: both will work. |
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| 11:56.51 | samantha-r- | where'd my fucking usb stick go? m$ has pissed me off again. |
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| 12:00.18 | Woet | my dmesg is spammed with this, any idea? [1870208.903395] rt6_redirect: source isn't a valid nexthop for redirect target |
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| 12:02.16 | jelly-home | Woet: does google have no idea? |
| 12:02.36 | Woet | jelly-home: a few results with kernel source and 1 mailing list saying the netmask is wrong, but it's not |
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| 12:05.18 | jelly-home | is ipv6 agnostic |
| 12:07.23 | tremon | Woet: do you have ip6tables rules? |
| 12:08.52 | Woet | tremon: I do, but disabling them does not make a difference I'm afraid |
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| 12:08.58 | r4co0n | i am trying to do a clamscan over lan, medium is mounted via nfs. the scan exits before finishing all files, but not at the same point when retrying, i am using the command "clamscan -rv /media/target". lan connection is cable-bound via router. any ideas what could cause this? |
| 12:10.15 | riot | uh, what happened to the arm-hf port on debian-ports? all gone 404? i'm confused |
| 12:10.42 | tremon | Woet: pastebin ip6tables -L -v, ip -6 address show and ip -6 route show |
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| 12:11.29 | abrotman | riot: wasn't it new ? |
| 12:12.03 | abrotman | riot: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort ? |
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| 12:16.40 | riot | abrotman: its just a box i unpacked and try to upgrade. I installed armhf uh.. 6 months ago and now it can't upgrade :.( |
| 12:16.58 | abrotman | riot: did you check the wiki page for sources ? |
| 12:17.31 | abrotman | riot: what are the current URLs ? |
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| 12:17.55 | riot | i'm looking into that, probably my source.conf is plain old wrong... |
| 12:18.28 | riot | has armhf maybe been completely integrated? I'm using debian-ports as repo and it gives 404 upon installation |
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| 12:18.35 | abrotman | riot: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:19.41 | riot | this one delivers only 404 upon installation (update works): deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 12:20.27 | abrotman | riot: what does 'dpkg --print-architecture' say ? |
| 12:20.32 | abrotman | the first line only |
| 12:21.15 | abrotman | riot: oh weird .. i see what it's 404 .. see if #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net has more of an idea |
| 12:21.18 | riot | armhf. uname gives: Linux ms0x00 3.0.1-x2 #1 SMP Sat Aug 6 05:15:10 UTC 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux |
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| 12:21.30 | riot | okay. Thanks! |
| 12:21.44 | abrotman | riot: it may have been moved and/or merged |
| 12:22.37 | riot | i see a lot of armhf on the main ftp servers. Perhaps it's been integrated completely. That would be rad. |
| 12:22.45 | abrotman | let me look |
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| 12:23.12 | abrotman | riot: oh you're right .. i can help you with this |
| 12:23.22 | abrotman | riot: where are you geographically ? |
| 12:23.58 | abrotman | riot: and do you want to track 'wheezy' or 'sid' ? |
| 12:24.40 | riot | abrotman: so the port is now official?! sweet. |
| 12:25.04 | abrotman | riot: it seems like they're trying to be a release architecture .. not sure if they've met criteria yet |
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| 12:27.04 | riot | weeee. Still good news, i suppose. |
| 12:27.23 | abrotman | riot: got it all going ? |
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| 12:28.01 | riot | looks good, yes |
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| 12:28.16 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 12:28.20 | riot | ehehehehe, the update takes somewhat longer now :> good sign |
| 12:28.24 | riot | thanks alot :> |
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| 12:29.49 | riot | yeeees. Good fix coming in :> |
| 12:29.59 | abrotman | dunno about fix? :) |
| 12:30.14 | abrotman | riot: if it's too unstable, you can try using wheezy instead |
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| 12:31.46 | mman_ | im having problems with self signed certificate. I get (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) insted of the common "this site is not secure but you can add a exception". how can i do it? |
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| 12:48.49 | fasta | The 'users' command returns an empty result. How is that possible? |
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| 12:50.28 | abrotman | fasta: you're doing it from X ? |
| 12:50.41 | fasta | abrotman: from an X terminal, yes. |
| 12:50.53 | abrotman | fasta: i'd guess it only counts login users |
| 12:50.54 | fasta | abrotman: usually I see one for every gnome-terminal process I run. |
| 12:51.28 | fasta | abrotman: perhaps it changed. |
| 12:51.46 | fasta | abrotman: it does work if I login on one of the other vttys. |
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| 13:07.42 | riot | abrotman: nah, i'm used to sid and need bleeding edge (its a development machine, have a look if you're interested in maritime stuff: http://hf.gd/dev/wiki/ms0x00 ) |
| 13:08.11 | abrotman | riot: i've spent a fair amount of time sailing |
| 13:10.05 | riot | we're trying to integrate debian (and lots of other stuff) for sailors and generally: vessels. One of the goals is to autonomously generate openseamap data (bathymetry, e.g.) |
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| 13:12.16 | abrotman | riot: I think most of our computers were the loran, gps, and monitoring system (can't remember the name, starts with B) |
| 13:12.49 | abrotman | I guess the monitoring system could be replaced by a Debian box |
| 13:13.25 | riot | yeah. I see an increasing number of atis systems, too. And maxsea seems to be the map software of choice. |
| 13:13.25 | abrotman | some sort of embedded Debian box .. I tried to convince my dad to put a secondary GPS display at the helm under plexiglass for topside navigation |
| 13:13.41 | abrotman | (yeah, he used maxsea also) |
| 13:13.56 | riot | wee, thats one of the goals. We want flexible monitoring, not only the old boring nmea stuff. |
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| 13:14.31 | abrotman | anyway .. we should move to #debian-offtopic if you want to keep talking about it .. |
| 13:14.41 | abrotman | we may wander offtopic, then i'd have to ban me |
| 13:14.49 | riot | Hehe :) |
| 13:15.21 | riot | and me. Geez, armhf as release is a charm. |
| 13:15.35 | abrotman | not technically a release yet AIUI |
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| 13:22.55 | laptunovic | Hi, How to activate mplayer in chromium for see videos on youtube? |
| 13:23.25 | laptunovic | anyone? |
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| 13:27.51 | khem_ | I've successfully ran make-kpkg within the kernel source tree, but I cannot locate the .deb package? Where should it be located? |
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| 13:29.08 | laptunovic | How to update java on debian |
| 13:29.24 | laptunovic | my version is 1.6.0_26 |
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| 13:33.38 | khem_ | anyone know if there is some gcc 4.5 package I can use in my squeeze install? |
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| 13:34.15 | Nik05 | backports khem? |
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| 13:34.27 | khem_ | Nik05: but gcc-4.5 is a newer package? |
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| 13:35.31 | Nik05 | yes |
| 13:35.53 | Nik05 | but you can also go for gcc-4.6 |
| 13:36.27 | khem_ | Nik05: gcc 4.6 would do :-) |
| 13:36.31 | khem_ | just dont know which repo I should use |
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| 13:36.39 | khem_ | without converting completely to unstable |
| 13:36.44 | Nik05 | backports ;) |
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| 13:37.20 | khem_ | Nik05: hrm. can you pastebin / paste the entry needed? :P |
| 13:37.56 | Nik05 | http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 13:37.58 | khem_ | oh |
| 13:38.00 | khem_ | thanx |
| 13:38.05 | khem_ | found on Debian wiki as well |
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| 13:38.19 | _stefanos_ | hello everyone. my xfce4.8 under debian wheezy it's closing any kind of application i right-click on it, but not always. it has been doing this before i run updates. |
| 13:40.44 | Nik05 | but not sure if gcc-4.6 is in squeeze-backports... |
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| 13:42.02 | khem_ | root@dom0:/usr/src/linux-3.2.7-hardened# aptitude -t squeeze-backports search gcc|grep 4.6 |
| 13:42.05 | khem_ | found nothing |
| 13:42.06 | khem_ | :p |
| 13:42.08 | khem_ | root@dom0:/usr/src/linux-3.2.7-hardened# aptitude -t squeeze-backports search gcc|grep 4.5 |
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| 13:42.35 | bunny69 | [15:41:04] <naughty_guy> hi!:) asl? |
| 13:42.44 | bunny69 | he is doing that since 2 hours... mass pm |
| 13:42.48 | bunny69 | any ops in? |
| 13:43.03 | bunny69 | i tried in #freenode but no one seems to care |
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| 13:45.27 | _stefanos_ | bunny69: are there still people doing that?! |
| 13:45.47 | bunny69 | he is still connected |
| 13:45.53 | bunny69 | and probably bugging others again |
| 13:46.05 | _stefanos_ | oh man... |
| 13:46.08 | khem_ | ever herad of /ignore ? :-) |
| 13:46.15 | bunny69 | heard of rules? |
| 13:46.28 | bunny69 | people used to be klined for stuff like "hi how r u" |
| 13:46.34 | bunny69 | things changed... |
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| 13:50.14 | khem_ | nah |
| 13:50.16 | khem_ | going unstable |
| 13:50.38 | khem_ | just make sure to keep a secure kernel and no SUIDs / listening services and I wont need to run that many updates anyway |
| 13:50.48 | khem_ | xen / gcc etc is way too old to run on this server |
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| 13:51.19 | abrotman | bunny69: why are you telling us, he's not in this channel |
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| 13:52.30 | bunny69 | abrotman because no one cares in #freenode... |
| 13:52.40 | bunny69 | and i got spammed twice in 30 mins. and i wasn't alone |
| 13:52.48 | abrotman | bunny69: but we can't kick someone who isn't in this channel |
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| 13:53.03 | bunny69 | i thought i would find an active oper here |
| 13:53.05 | khem_ | Yeah, I think this qualifies just as much as spam |
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| 13:53.17 | khem_ | if it is private message, just use the /ignore command - problem solved ;) |
| 13:53.21 | bunny69 | stuff like "hi how r u" |
| 13:53.48 | bunny69 | he is being annoying to others too, i don't care much personally, it's about cleaning the freenode of such people... |
| 13:53.52 | abrotman | bunny69: THE USER ISN"T IN THIS CHANNEL |
| 13:53.54 | abrotman | jesus |
| 13:54.03 | bunny69 | i thought i would find an active oper here |
| 13:54.09 | bunny69 | i wrote that few mins ago... |
| 13:54.11 | abrotman | they'd be in #freenode, good luck |
| 13:54.11 | khem_ | doubt any oper would K-line for that, just plain stupid. |
| 13:54.20 | abrotman | someone doesn't udnerstand how irc works |
| 13:54.21 | bunny69 | i don't care anymore, if they don't care... |
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| 13:54.38 | bunny69 | abrotman... dude... i had a chat with you so many times since 2000... |
| 13:54.54 | abrotman | chanops are not the same as staff .. you should be aware of that by now |
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| 13:55.01 | bunny69 | i said: oper ;) |
| 13:55.08 | bunny69 | that means irc operator :) |
| 13:55.12 | khem_ | ok |
| 13:55.15 | khem_ | EOF |
| 13:55.19 | khem_ | please? :) |
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| 13:55.20 | bunny69 | n/m though, it's cool abrotman, i do read you, EOT |
| 13:55.23 | abrotman | the user still isn't in this channel .. the chanops can't do anything about it |
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| 13:55.45 | bunny69 | as i said i was sure i would meet an irc operator in here.. it used to be like that |
| 13:56.06 | abrotman | they'd be in #freenode, as i've said |
| 13:56.50 | bunny69 | they didn't react or those active people aren't ircops... that's why i tried here when that idiot pmed me again... |
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| 13:57.07 | abrotman | *facepalm* |
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| 13:57.10 | bunny69 | because #debian is the 2nd best for me right after freenode :) |
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| 13:57.23 | abrotman | *headdesk* |
| 13:57.29 | bunny69 | lmao |
| 13:57.30 | khem_ | ./ignore |
| 13:57.37 | bunny69 | need coffee, abrotman? |
| 13:57.45 | khem_ | 14:01 Ignoring ALL from bunny69 |
| 13:57.46 | bunny69 | would love to bring you some |
| 13:57.51 | khem_ | :) headache |
| 13:58.03 | bunny69 | that's quite ridiculous... |
| 13:58.04 | abrotman | doesn't drink coffee |
| 13:58.19 | bunny69 | doesn't either... |
| 13:58.36 | FR_Guest | Hi, I need help please : my preware gives me a 404 when I lunch it and when I try to install Ubuntu or Debian chroot T.T |
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| 13:58.57 | abrotman | your preware ? |
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| 13:59.13 | FR_Guest | ...just preware |
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| 14:00.56 | FR_Guest | " unable to run command /usr/bin/curl " |
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| 14:02.07 | FR_Guest | and after, a 404 on "ipkg.preware.org/feeds/..." |
| 14:02.35 | tremon | FR_Guest: -> #ipkg? |
| 14:02.35 | FR_Guest | Please help ! :'( |
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| 14:04.00 | FR_Guest | Pardon ? ( ps : I', not very good, just trying to install debian to descover, I only now a bit of Ubuntu yet ) |
| 14:04.05 | tremon | FR_Guest: have you even looked at preware.org? |
| 14:04.36 | FR_Guest | tremon : yes, couln't find anything that helped |
| 14:05.06 | tremon | there was no header on the page like "Need Help or Want to Help Out?" |
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| 14:07.02 | tremon | FR_Guest: it says "join us in #webos-internals" |
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| 14:08.41 | injureddeer | where can i found what date format have /var/log/kern.log ? |
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| 14:09.42 | abrotman | injureddeer: should be easy to look at it and see ? |
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| 14:10.06 | injureddeer | abrotman: when you have |
| 14:10.14 | injureddeer | day 25 what is it? |
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| 14:10.21 | abrotman | can i see the whole line ? |
| 14:10.40 | injureddeer | Mar 25 15:54:34 |
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| 14:10.53 | injureddeer | i dont know is this will be 01 or 1 |
| 14:10.54 | injureddeer | etc |
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| 14:10.59 | abrotman | So it's March 25th, 1554 (doesn't show timezone) |
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| 14:11.12 | abrotman | What is confusing there? |
| 14:11.24 | injureddeer | 25 |
| 14:11.30 | abrotman | injureddeer: so it'd be like 2012/03/25 as YYYY/MM/DD |
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| 14:12.11 | abrotman | the Mar is March, not Mardes |
| 14:12.43 | FR_Guest | I have the same problem, please help : http://forum.palmpre-france.com/viewtopic.php?id=2729 |
| 14:13.06 | abrotman | FR_Guest: this channel is for Debian support, what your'e using |
| 14:13.10 | injureddeer | what ever it will fail |
| 14:13.15 | injureddeer | i wanna grep last 5 minutes |
| 14:13.22 | injureddeer | base on this log format |
| 14:13.25 | injureddeer | but dunno how do it... |
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| 14:15.06 | abrotman | grrrr |
| 14:15.23 | abrotman | injureddeer: always the prior five minutes? |
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| 14:18.10 | bunny69 | i'm having an issue... i need to run a screen session as another user and then run a process on that screen as that user... is there an easy way to achive this? it needs to be scripted |
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| 14:18.40 | abrotman | you can run screen with set processes .. |
| 14:18.45 | abrotman | and you can use the user's cron to start it |
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| 14:19.01 | bunny69 | abrotman never tried that, hm... |
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| 14:20.01 | antgel | hi all. trying to install a terminal server using xrdp. when i log in locally, gnome 3 loads and runs fine, but when i do it via rdesktop with the same user, i get a more basic, less functional gnome desktop with no background whatsoever. what could be going wrong? i don't even know which log files to read, i haven't found anything in .xsession-errors or the x log |
| 14:20.02 | dutchfish | injureddeer, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-utils/2004-09/msg00016.html |
| 14:20.24 | antgel | highfives abrotman |
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| 14:22.47 | abrotman | antgel: heya .. is it using fallback with lower colors and features? |
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| 14:23.00 | abrotman | is about to go afk for a bit |
| 14:23.18 | abrotman | antgel: IIRC, gnome3 has requirements for the full desktop experience |
| 14:23.48 | abrotman | antgel: you may get some extra info from the gnome channel on irc.gnome.org .. but also consider using vino, the built-in gnome RDP/VNC server |
| 14:23.53 | abrotman | runs away |
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| 14:25.49 | antgel | abrotman: ah. well, it's set to 32-bit on the client end. don't know if that's enough. but i have *substantially less* than the full desktop experience here (disgusting / unusable) |
| 14:26.27 | antgel | abrotman: i'll try them. as for the built-in RDP server, i believe that's only useful after a user has logged in locally (NB just guessing, will check its docs) |
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| 14:26.45 | abrotman | ah okay |
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| 14:29.57 | dutchfish | i think i go prep dinner, see you all later |
| 14:29.59 | antgel | to be honest, i couldn't care less if it's gnome or not. i just want my (windows user) teammates to be able to experience a linux desktop. maybe i'll try kde, haven't looked at it for 10 years |
| 14:30.02 | antgel | feels old |
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| 14:34.23 | matt8686 | Am I correct, that it's not possible to increase partition size and file system size(ext3) on a fly? |
| 14:35.18 | tremon | matt8686: that's half correct. You can increase filesystem size for ext3, but not partition tables |
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| 14:36.57 | Na_Klar | my debian server has detached temporary blackouts. They occur only to one requester and only when establishing a new connection. Then the server does not answer to that client on any port for about 3 - 9 minutes. Mostly however 5 minutes. What could that be? |
| 14:38.25 | tremon | Na_Klar: could be anything. network routing, server software, automatic blacklisting come to mind |
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| 14:40.04 | Na_Klar | tremon, I can exclude network routing (the server-center staff changed anything on request), and the server software also, because it does not make a difference for the blackout if the request was on the http or email server or even just a ping. What about automatic blacklisting? Thats sounds interessting. I already removed all --limit options from iptables .. |
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| 14:40.24 | ycat | sorry... |
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| 14:45.23 | tremon | Na_Klar: there's fail2ban that scans syslog for spurious auth attempts. and synflood detection for protection against ddos. It's possible that that one client is triggering a safety response somewhere |
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| 14:45.47 | bunny69 | fail2ban - the best a man can get... |
| 14:45.54 | tremon | especially if the problems resolve itself after several minutes |
| 14:46.08 | toehio | how do I flush a DNS entry? |
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| 14:46.17 | Na_Klar | tremon, yeah that might be a good thought ... I'll check that ... |
| 14:47.01 | jbrks | toehio, there's rdnc, but but but.. firefox by default has its own dns cache-- if u need to disable firefox's u need to set it up to |
| 14:47.38 | toehio | jbrks: thanks, I'll try that |
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| 14:49.48 | toehio | jbrks: I can't find rdnc on my system |
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| 14:51.01 | jbrks | maybe you're using nscd http://www.tech-faq.com/how-to-flush-dns.html |
| 14:51.41 | toehio | jbrks: I can't find that service on my system either |
| 14:52.02 | toehio | jbrks: (I've seen many of those how-tos) |
| 14:52.24 | jbrks | by default i dont think rndc is installed on any of the popular distros, you'd have to manually install it |
| 14:52.28 | Na_Klar | tremon, since fail2ban was not installed on my machine, I can exclude it from being the problem, right? |
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| 14:53.25 | tremon | Na_Klar: yes, as long as you do not have a central log server that manipulates an external firewall (unlikely, but still...) |
| 14:53.42 | toehio | jbrks: and now for some reason the 'r' key doesn't work in the root shell |
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| 14:55.29 | jbrks | toehio, sounds like your using testing |
| 14:55.39 | Na_Klar | tremon, there is no central log server ... hm .. I installed a plain debian on that machine just a couple of months ago ... it should be something misconfigured perhaps .. or something I did not notice. I that synflood part of fail2ban? |
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| 14:56.27 | tremon | Na_Klar: synflood detection (and syncookies) are part of the kernel, and part of any network router/firewall |
| 14:56.49 | tremon | Na_Klar: that's about all I know about it, though. Not a network technician :) |
| 14:56.50 | Elfe | Hi, anybody using a different resolution configured in grub2 for the terminal? My virtual guest doesn't change resolution, I followed this: http://www.kkoncepts.net/node/194 |
| 14:57.04 | Na_Klar | tremon, I see .. thx so far |
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| 14:58.28 | jbrks | Elfe, vga= on the kernel bootline doesn't change grub's graphics gfxmode |
| 14:58.32 | tremon | Na_Klar: good luck with your hunt, these things can be hard to track down even if all machines are on your own desk |
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| 14:59.31 | Elfe | jbrks: I only need a higher resolution when using the CLI after logging in. |
| 14:59.38 | jbrks | Elfe, the command for grub2 update, is update-grub2 rather than update-grub |
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| 15:00.01 | Na_Klar | tremon, well I am hunting for ~ 4 months now. The only thing that develops is that I can describe the problem more and more precisely ... but ANY try did not bring a solution ... |
| 15:00.18 | Elfe | jbrks: I used update-grub2. I used a different page in german |
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| 15:00.39 | daniele | Hi friends. I have a n00b problem. I want to make an init script, but it goes automatically run as root, I don't want to run it as root, has anybody an idea of what I can do? |
| 15:00.45 | jbrks | Elfe, vga= << is supposed to be going obsolete because of kms (kernel mode setting-- used so that tty1 plain text screen doesnt flicker when switich from the X screen) |
| 15:01.04 | Elfe | jbrks: OK thanks! |
| 15:01.46 | tremon | Na_Klar: if your server is hosted (as I believe you said), please do keep one of their technicians in the loop. Even if you do find the problem, it might take months to convince them of the problem if it's in their equipment |
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| 15:02.22 | jbrks | it's either dpkg-reconfigure console or something else like -- dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:02.29 | jbrks | Elfe, ^ |
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| 15:04.34 | jbrks | Elfe, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ...there's probably something else like "console |
| 15:04.37 | matt8686 | tremon, ok, so I is possible to change ext3 size using the resize2fs of a mounted file system, but there is no way to change the partition table in MBR without unmounting the device? |
| 15:04.53 | jbrks | Elfe, (apt-cache search console|grep -i font) |
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| 15:05.11 | Na_Klar | tremon, yes. And the technicans are very polite. They connected my server to another router, switch and changed the cables and tracked the server/network without finding any error. However I honestly can hardly believe the failure is on my server. But I can also not exclude it. Therefore I am searching and searching .. (the positive side-effect is, that I found a lot of things to enhance on... |
| 15:05.13 | Na_Klar | ...my machine during the search for this error ^^) |
| 15:05.20 | tremon | matt8686: yes. To be specific, without unmounting all partitions on that device |
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| 15:06.32 | matt8686 | tremon, I see. So I still need to power down the server, boot up using the live CD and change the partition table and file system.. |
| 15:07.13 | jbrks | matt8686, just use the gparted live cd from sf.net ... it does it graphically for you, both the table and the filesystem |
| 15:07.23 | tremon | Na_Klar: I know the problem (sort of). We've been having intermittent issues with a third-party website. Sometimes the site would start sending duplicate commands that we had to manually correct. It has taken about 9 months for them to realize the problem |
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| 15:07.43 | Na_Klar | *sigh* |
| 15:07.56 | Na_Klar | a nice perspective ... :P |
| 15:07.57 | matt8686 | jbrks, ok, I will. I was just hoping that there is a method to do this without downtime :) |
| 15:08.08 | jbrks | matt8686, you can do it with cli, using the parted tool as well |
| 15:08.40 | tremon | matt8686: if the partition table you're trying to change has your partition, then yes. Otherwise you can get by with init'ing to level 1 and unmount all other filesystems. But that's very close to a reboot already |
| 15:08.50 | matt8686 | jbrks, ok, resize2fs and fdisk, but still need to power down the server :) |
| 15:09.01 | tremon | s/your partition/your *root* partition/ |
| 15:09.06 | jbrks | mattgyver, i'm not sure if you can do a resize live.. not sure.. probably in the future |
| 15:09.26 | jbrks | matt8686, uh.. tthe parted tool command does both for you.. |
| 15:09.42 | Elfe | jbrks: OK, I ran the setup and I could change the font at least, will search from there. :) |
| 15:09.47 | jbrks | matt8686, parted or gparted both use the same back library |
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| 15:10.08 | jbrks | Elfe, that's good.. |
| 15:10.56 | neglesaks | godo afternoon folks, question: i have a micropc with which im using an USB HD - oddly, the first HD i plug into the system shows up in /media/ as "usb0", but all subsequent USB units plugged in show up as their given partition names.... any idea why? |
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| 15:11.38 | jbrks | neglesaks, maybe its because the logical volumes aren't given any names.. |
| 15:12.01 | matt8686 | tremon, ok, thanks! |
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| 15:12.12 | neglesaks | i believe that they are, jbrks , but ill check. thanks for the suggestion. |
| 15:12.13 | wilfredor | Hi |
| 15:12.24 | wilfredor | I havent the right clic in my dv7 |
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| 15:12.29 | wilfredor | someone could help me? |
| 15:12.48 | wilfredor | the bugs is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597082 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572842 |
| 15:13.02 | wilfredor | but the patch is not working over my kernel 3 |
| 15:13.11 | wilfredor | I have testing |
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| 15:13.52 | krish | hi, how can i verify if a .deb file has been signed or not? |
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| 15:14.29 | daemonkeeper | krish: Debian .deb files are never signed. |
| 15:14.35 | jbrks | krish, there's a command option i believe with dpkg to check the signature |
| 15:14.37 | daemonkeeper | krish: The archive meta data is. |
| 15:14.56 | krish | daemonkeeper: whaddyamean? |
| 15:15.13 | neglesaks | jbrks: it turned out that the filesystem had a label, but the partition did not. ill reboot it later and see if it helps. thanks agaiun! |
| 15:15.30 | krish | daemonkeeper: I just built gpg signed debs and I need to verify if they got signed for real or not.. so that I can proceed to put them on reprepo |
| 15:15.39 | daemonkeeper | krish: Right that. It's not the .deb which has a signature but some files on the mirrors delivering debs to you. Or, for source packages which are being uploaded to Debian, the .dsc files are signed. |
| 15:15.50 | jbrks | neglesaks, the only element needed a label is the filesystem.. partitions dont carry labels |
| 15:16.15 | daemonkeeper | krish: The signature you made for your source package (the dsc/changes file) is not delivered to the user. |
| 15:16.52 | toehio | jbrks: I really can't find any information on how to flush the DNS cache. Any more suggestions? |
| 15:17.05 | wilfredor | help, I need somebody |
| 15:17.07 | gfc | need |
| 15:17.27 | tremon | help, not just anybody |
| 15:17.35 | krish | daemonkeeper: so i put the asc on my reprepo or something? and people who add my repo do not need to import my pub key? |
| 15:17.49 | toehio | jbrks: do I have to install nscd? Is that the only option? |
| 15:18.20 | jbrks | toehio, did u try nscd ? |
| 15:18.52 | toehio | jbrks: not yet |
| 15:19.07 | toehio | jbrks: by default, debian doesn't have a cache, is that correct? |
| 15:19.24 | matt8686 | Is "Block size" in dumpe2fs output the same as "file system cluster size"? |
| 15:19.28 | daemonkeeper | krish: If you're using reprepro set SignWith: <yourkey> in your conf file. This signature needs to be imported on the user's edge as well. It can, but does not need to correspond to your signature for dsc/changes files. |
| 15:19.46 | jbrks | toehio, by default the flush utility isnt installed, but there's always caching |
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| 15:20.14 | krish | daemonkeeper: ok! .. let me try that out and see if things work out. |
| 15:20.19 | krish | thanks a ton! :) |
| 15:20.53 | toehio | jbrks: I will try it then |
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| 15:20.59 | daemonkeeper | krish: Note, the archive signing key is typically used automatically. Thus it should not carry a passphrase. |
| 15:21.00 | wilfredor | :( someone know how fix the right clic in a touchpad dv7 ? |
| 15:21.24 | neglesaks | question: another problem. i mostly get "failed to download changes" in my update manager. is that a problem due to my confiuguration somehow, or due to y choice of update server? |
| 15:21.31 | neglesaks | (debian 6.0.4) |
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| 15:21.39 | jbrks | wilfredor, often there are module options-- you'll have to query by laptop model |
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| 15:22.22 | krish | daemonkeeper: :( ... my requirements need to use passphrase. call it false sense of security :) |
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| 15:22.48 | toehio | jbrks: installed nscd, restarted it, no results. hosname <host>, however, shows the correct IP address for the host |
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| 15:23.20 | daemonkeeper | krish: You want to setup ask-passphrase too, then. That requires you to login to the repository location every time you import a package. |
| 15:23.34 | toehio | jbrks: s/hostname/host/ |
| 15:23.50 | krish | daemonkeeper: will keep that in mind :) thks |
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| 15:24.09 | wilfredor | jbrks: thanks but I cant undestand |
| 15:24.32 | jbrks | wilfredor, i'm asking what your laptop model is |
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| 15:25.04 | toehio | jbrks: ok, problem solved, thank you |
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| 15:26.24 | jbrks | toehio, nobody never really needs that tool thats why it isnt installed by default |
| 15:26.46 | wilfredor | jbrks: it's a not generic laptop http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02219173&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=4221677 |
| 15:26.51 | jbrks | toehio, i don't see what you're after but.. still your welcome :) |
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| 15:28.13 | wilfredor | jbrks: but the bug is confirmed because it is afecting some users |
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| 15:29.37 | jbrks | wilfredor, what bug, link? |
| 15:29.51 | dracmas | just wondering about this needing sasl for irc with my mobile broadband. Hadn't had to deal with it until now. |
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| 15:30.15 | wilfredor | jbrks: the bugs is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597082 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572842 |
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| 15:30.32 | wilfredor | jbrks: the patch is not working for my amd64 and kernel 3 |
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| 15:32.00 | jbrks | wilfredor, do you get a black screen bug too? |
| 15:32.10 | jbrks | wilfredor, because there's a bios upgrade for your laptop |
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| 15:32.40 | wilfredor | jbrks: no |
| 15:32.42 | Elfe | I'm not sure, are you supposed to replace vconfig with the ip command now? |
| 15:33.24 | Elfe | looks like vconfig has been deprecated |
| 15:33.33 | Na_Klar | how do I check which init.d's are executed on startup when using insserv instead of update-rc? insserv -v -n does not say something relevant .. |
| 15:34.04 | jbrks | wilfredor, .. |
| 15:34.17 | wilfredor | jbrks: http://pastebin.com/srNMFr6n |
| 15:34.21 | jbrks | wilfredor, never mind a 2 year old article. does anything say synaptic inthe X log ? |
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| 15:35.55 | wilfredor | jbrks: i know |
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| 15:36.21 | jbrks | wilfredor, once you start compiling I cant help you because i have no idea what you could of damaged |
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| 15:36.59 | wilfredor | jbrks: what do you need for help me? |
| 15:37.04 | jbrks | notes that not everything is always mentioned in bios upgrade descriptions |
| 15:37.19 | ludlow | is there a way to turn on font smoothing with debian? |
| 15:37.45 | jbrks | i already said/suggested 2 things wilfredor, try bios upgrade and to check the X log about anything saying synpatic |
| 15:37.47 | wilfredor | jbrks: my english is not very hight |
| 15:38.01 | wilfredor | jbrks: I have already the bios upgrade |
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| 15:39.52 | wilfredor | jbrks: whereis the synaptics log? |
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| 15:42.46 | jbrks | wilfredor, so you're compiling an X component and have no idea where the X log is. I'm very stunned. |
| 15:43.13 | wilfredor | jbrks: I'm a old linux user combacking |
| 15:44.12 | jbrks | that's like installing a new car engine when you really only ran out of gas |
| 15:44.22 | jbrks | meh |
| 15:44.44 | wilfredor | :( /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
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| 15:45.57 | Samwan | hi |
| 15:46.15 | Samwan | I made myself an init.d script, I come from ubuntu so everything is a bit different here under debian |
| 15:46.34 | Samwan | how can I make them startup automatically at login under debian? |
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| 15:46.44 | daemonkeeper | Yes. Ubuntu felt like Upstart were a good idea. |
| 15:46.58 | wilfredor | jbrks: http://pastebin.com/kaZcHfSn |
| 15:47.14 | Samwan | under ubuntu I had /etc/rc1.d, is there an equivalent in debian? |
| 15:47.33 | Samwan | I left ubuntu cause it became too bloated and shitty and I don't like so much desktop eyecandy |
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| 15:49.42 | ludlow | Slackware is fast and not that heavy but alot of the apps need to be compiled from source |
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| 15:49.57 | haole | which is the best way to determine BuildDepends for a package that i am writing? |
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| 15:50.18 | ludlow | rbrb |
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| 15:51.33 | jbrks | haole, read the README and match any requirements to available library names from the debian repos |
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| 15:51.55 | wilfredor | jbrks: I'm sorry, could you help me, I promise to follow all the steps you indicate me |
| 15:52.11 | haole | jbrks, i once read somewhere that there is an easy way to setup a "naked" debian sandbox to see exactly which packages you really need... i'm looking for something like that |
| 15:52.25 | MichelleZ | haole, pbuilder |
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| 15:52.39 | jbrks | haole, yeah that's online.. but i never used it.. it's from novell |
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| 15:53.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | Hello. I'm trying to package my java project into a debian package. It is built with maven and produces a single jar and init.d script. Could anyone tell me what's the preferred and easiest way to do? I tried using jdeb and maven debian helper, but got confused |
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| 15:54.19 | haole | MichelleZ, thanks, gonna look into it |
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| 15:55.14 | barbadillo | hi all, I have a filesystem I can't remount |
| 15:55.46 | barbadillo | block device /dev/sda3 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 15:56.08 | barbadillo | but fsck says filesystem is clean |
| 15:56.10 | nsadmin | why is it write protected? |
| 15:56.30 | barbadillo | some errors |
| 15:56.46 | barbadillo | than I did a fsck and now it's clean |
| 15:56.52 | barbadillo | but still I can't remount |
| 15:56.52 | wilfredor | jbrks: no problem, thanks |
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| 15:57.05 | nsadmin | is there valuyable data on it? |
| 15:57.05 | jelly-home | barbadillo: you did a fsck while it was still mounted? |
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| 15:57.31 | barbadillo | jelly-home, was read-only when I run fsck |
| 15:57.40 | jelly-home | barbadillo: but it was still mounted. |
| 15:57.47 | jelly-home | barbadillo: reboot |
| 15:58.09 | barbadillo | jelly-home, without rebooting no way? |
| 15:58.15 | barbadillo | it's a remote server |
| 15:58.26 | jelly-home | barbadillo: the kernel's notion of the filesystem is now different to what's on the disk. Reboot. |
| 15:58.34 | nsadmin | what is the mount point? |
| 15:58.44 | barbadillo | nsadmin, / |
| 15:58.48 | ludlow | anyone know how to install nvidia drivers on debian ? |
| 15:59.16 | injureddeer | is possible to grep last 5 minutes of /var/log/kern.log? |
| 15:59.18 | jelly-home | !tell ludlow about nvidia dkms |
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| 15:59.59 | barbadillo | jelly-home, if the filesystem is clean, in theory it will not stop asking for fsck, right? |
| 16:00.12 | barbadillo | jelly-home, there's no one now in the farm |
| 16:00.41 | nsadmin | the filesystem might not be clean |
| 16:00.53 | jelly-home | barbadillo: I don't want to guess what's going to happen at umount time before the reboot. IF the fs is really read-only, its state will be unchanged... |
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| 16:01.14 | nsadmin | you're advised to back up your / |
| 16:01.21 | jelly-home | eh |
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| 16:01.43 | nsadmin | or else state you don't care about the data |
| 16:02.03 | jelly-home | he's advised to do that anyway, but that won't help to make a successful reboot |
| 16:02.07 | barbadillo | jelly-home, fsck forced and at the end ***** FILESYSTEM WAS MODIFIED REBOOT LINUX ***** |
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| 16:02.36 | nsadmin | true |
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| 16:03.04 | barbadillo | I think I have to reboot... |
| 16:03.20 | jelly-home | no shit! |
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| 16:03.41 | nsadmin | no, schmidt. |
| 16:04.22 | matt8686 | Is "Block size" in dumpe2fs output the same as "file system cluster size"? |
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| 16:05.06 | barbadillo | jelly-home, what if after reboot it asks to fsck and no one is in place? |
| 16:05.29 | jelly-home | barbadillo: it's going to wait there |
| 16:05.45 | jelly-home | indefinitely |
| 16:05.46 | User_CL | hi friend... where get hour cron daemon ?? |
| 16:05.59 | barbadillo | jelly-home, not a good option |
| 16:06.14 | User_CL | have 1 hour difference between '$date' and 'cron' ... please helpme |
| 16:06.20 | nsadmin | is it in single-user mode now? |
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| 16:06.39 | nsadmin | or is it operating "normally"? |
| 16:06.57 | barbadillo | nsadmin, talking to me? |
| 16:07.14 | Na_Klar | tremon, do you think it would be possible the blackout problem occures because of the machine is somehow too long idle and something needs to come up in order that the request can be handled? |
| 16:07.15 | nsadmin | barbadillo, yeah |
| 16:07.48 | barbadillo | nsadmin, runlevel 2 |
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| 16:08.18 | smhar | greetings |
| 16:08.43 | nsadmin | do you run databases? |
| 16:08.54 | nsadmin | barbadillo, |
| 16:08.55 | barbadillo | nsadmin, yes of course |
| 16:09.21 | nsadmin | the storage for those databases on / or a separate partition? |
| 16:09.39 | barbadillo | is on / |
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| 16:10.15 | nsadmin | then the site isn't functional anyway. right? |
| 16:10.37 | barbadillo | right, all down |
| 16:10.37 | jelly-home | User_CL: that's unusual, cron ought to handle timezone changes. Which Debian release are you using? |
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| 16:11.06 | nsadmin | well... at this ooint, you've heard our recommendations |
| 16:11.15 | User_CL | jelly-home: squeeze |
| 16:12.00 | smhar | I got myself a new gift, a dreamplug (http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx), I updated it to debian squeeze, and it is working nicely now. The wifi is working in AP mode, but does not give an IP to clients, what files should I edit for this? |
| 16:12.01 | barbadillo | nsadmin, I can't backup mysql with no mysql running... |
| 16:12.25 | barbadillo | do I? |
| 16:12.40 | nsadmin | the files mysql uses are still on the partition |
| 16:12.42 | HardDisk_WP | hey all |
| 16:12.58 | HardDisk_WP | i got a centos 5.7 server, how do I bootstrap debian on it? |
| 16:13.05 | HardDisk_WP | no kvm access, that's the problem |
| 16:13.20 | barbadillo | nsadmin, 2 GB |
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| 16:14.21 | barbadillo | nsadmin, or can I just backup MYD files? |
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| 16:14.49 | nsadmin | do you have enough space to backup the whole partition? |
| 16:15.06 | nsadmin | onto a SEPARATE partition |
| 16:15.39 | nsadmin | hmm. which you may or may not be abke ti mount in present state |
| 16:16.11 | barbadillo | nsadmin, no separate partitions, just boot and swap |
| 16:16.13 | nsadmin | so this is a -very- important reason to have separate partitions |
| 16:16.39 | nsadmin | and no unpartitioned space? |
| 16:16.45 | barbadillo | no |
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| 16:17.27 | nsadmin | then you may be stuck and (not surprisingly) jelly is probably right, you should reboot and pray |
| 16:17.32 | barbadillo | ok guys, but the errors was not so much, I think it must be clean now |
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| 16:18.16 | barbadillo | ok I hope and cross my fingers... |
| 16:18.25 | jozefk | :) |
| 16:18.29 | nsadmin | the problem is as fsck and jelly already told you.... |
| 16:18.53 | nsadmin | the kernel's idea of the partition and the partition itself are right now different |
| 16:19.15 | barbadillo | rebooting |
| 16:19.25 | barbadillo | silence from ping |
| 16:19.27 | nsadmin | good luck |
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| 16:19.51 | jelly-home | User_CL: can you pastebin the output of "date" and "TZ=UTC date" and "tail /var/log/daemon.log" and "dpkg -l tzdata | tail -n 1" |
| 16:19.54 | barbadillo | ...silence... |
| 16:20.05 | nsadmin | patience |
| 16:20.20 | User_CL | jelly-home : ok ... |
| 16:20.38 | barbadillo | ...silence... |
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| 16:21.17 | barbadillo | no way it's dead |
| 16:21.29 | nsadmin | it may be fscking / again |
| 16:21.34 | barbadillo | nononono it's alive |
| 16:21.51 | barbadillo | YESSSS |
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| 16:22.39 | nsadmin | it's alive dr frankenstein,,, want the bug spray? |
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| 16:24.04 | nsadmin | try touch /root/hello |
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| 16:28.47 | CoolCold | hi guys |
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| 16:29.03 | CoolCold | is there way to blacklist module for certain kernel version? |
| 16:29.17 | barbadillo | nsadmin, jelly-home thank you, it's all up and running, now will backup everything |
| 16:29.45 | CoolCold | looks like it is possible to do module loads for certain kernel version, but not to blacklist |
| 16:29.47 | kish | is this error message dangerous |
| 16:29.50 | kish | (nautilus:1600): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_value_get_object: assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_OBJECT (value)' failed |
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| 16:30.13 | CoolCold | i need this because of manually compiling realtek module |
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| 16:31.50 | icarious | i am using wheezy.. when i run apt-get update.. apt is trying to download every translation possible. how to stop this behavior and use just en-US |
| 16:32.45 | User_CL | jelly-home : here information: http://pastebin.com/PJGtAXX3 |
| 16:32.51 | User_CL | thank for all ! |
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| 16:33.42 | icarious | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/02/msg00708.html this is the bug i am talking about |
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| 16:34.34 | sp4rc | guys i am trying to install debian (stable, amd64) and getting "the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in RAID126p6 device # at none failed...." |
| 16:34.38 | bunny69 | is it possible to prepare a shell in a way so user can only run 1 command? and that's a shell script |
| 16:35.14 | sp4rc | what am i doing wrong? i have setup a striping raid array using ICH9 fake raid |
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| 16:39.08 | somiaj | bunny69: not in an easy way, what is this one script you want this user to be able to run, and why do you want to give him shell access to run it. |
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| 16:40.31 | sp4rc | if i mark the partition as unused i can continue with the installation |
| 16:40.39 | sp4rc | but i guess that's not the way it should work |
| 16:43.49 | jelly-home | User_CL: uh... ok. What happens if you just restart the rsyslog or sysklogd service? |
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| 16:45.34 | sp4rc | anyone? |
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| 16:52.20 | flips | hm, tried joining #debian-next for my "wheezy" question, but it was invite only, so I'll take my chances asking here: To switch from stable to testing, should I keep stable in sources.list, just in case, or just have wheezy sources? |
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| 16:52.46 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 16:53.22 | babilen | flips: The channel is on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) not here on freenode |
| 16:53.31 | Azrael_- | need some help with sudoers. i want to enable www-data to run another phpscript with exec. this was my first attempt: "root ALL=(www-data) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/php /home/www/webXX/html/sudo/run.php $1" but i just get the message the input file couldn't be read. i tried to start it like this: "sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/php /home/www/webXX/html/sudo/run.php test" |
| 16:53.31 | Dulak | flips: #debian-next is on another irc network. You do not want to mix your repos, so you would be using wheezy repos exclusively. |
| 16:53.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell flips about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 16:53.51 | jhutchins_lt | flips: You don't want to mix releases, so you should eliminate all of the references to squeeze. |
| 16:54.06 | somiaj | flips: you only want wheezy in your sources.list you do not want to mix binary packages from stable and wheezy |
| 16:54.13 | jhutchins_lt | flips: debian-next is not on freenode, it is on oftc.net |
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| 16:54.23 | flips | great, thanks :) |
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| 16:55.27 | jelly-home | sp4rc: is there a specific reason you're using bios fakeraid instead of md raid? |
| 16:55.51 | sp4rc | jelly-home: no there is not |
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| 16:56.11 | sp4rc | jelly-home: your answer implies i should switch to md raid |
| 16:56.28 | sp4rc | jelly-home: isn't there any performance drawback by using md raid over fake raid? |
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| 16:57.01 | jelly-home | sp4rc: no, it's just it's a bit finicky |
| 16:57.20 | jelly-home | if you don't have other OSes relying on fake raid, md is the preferred option |
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| 16:58.27 | sp4rc | jelly-home: i've changed the swap partition's state to unused. that allowed me to continue the installation process, i'll try to active swap later on |
| 16:58.50 | jelly-home | sure |
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| 17:05.03 | Azrael_- | *sniff* why did you already end the support for lenny.... :( |
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| 17:05.49 | Woet | Azrael_-: because squeeze was released over 1 year ago? |
| 17:06.12 | Woet | Azrael_-: and with debian's very easy upgrading, there is no excuse if you're still running lenny |
| 17:06.47 | Azrael_- | kinda, but some external software isn't that friendly (mentioning confixx) |
| 17:07.48 | Woet | confixx is EOL too |
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| 17:08.32 | Azrael_- | yeah, as they can squeeze more money out of the ppl with plesk |
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| 17:08.52 | Woet | not sure why you would run any parallels product in the first place |
| 17:08.54 | Woet | but that's up to you |
| 17:09.00 | Woet | just don't blame debian for it |
| 17:09.09 | Azrael_- | customers used to it |
| 17:09.09 | Azrael_- | ofc |
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| 17:09.51 | guestno234 | Hello people. Does anyone know how to exactly sort of override the default fonts and fonts size in LMDE? because when i set the ones for my liking, GTK apps that I run mostly have the old setting. |
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| 17:15.55 | _ramo | hi |
| 17:16.03 | _ramo | how can i see, which groups i have? |
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| 17:17.07 | _ramo | okay just gropus |
| 17:17.10 | _ramo | groups |
| 17:17.13 | dFence | hi guys! is there a way I can force any kind of feedback from a device attached to the serial-port? (like a serial-ping) |
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| 17:17.50 | SpComb | dFence: depends on the serial device attached |
| 17:18.11 | dFence | SpComb: a serial printer (Epson TM-T88 II) |
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| 17:19.28 | dFence | SpComb: the internal selftest says it works at 9600 8N1 with DTR/DSR – I set the port (ttyUSB0) accordingly with stty, but it won't do anything, not even when I just pass an echo to the port |
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| 17:25.38 | Kotus | i was searching for libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 , to run a 32bit game on amd64, and i found out it is in ubuntu ia32-libs but not debian ia32-libs |
| 17:27.11 | guestno234 | Asking again, does anyone know how to exactly sort of override the default fonts and fonts size in LMDE? because when i set the ones for my liking, GTK apps that I run mostly have the old setting. I'm on GNOME 2, and here's what I'm talking about: http://i.imgur.com/UVEoi.png |
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| 17:29.58 | jelly-home | !lmde |
| 17:29.58 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 17:31.04 | jelly-home | guestno234: since Mint tinkers with themes and the look a bit, it's best to ask them. |
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| 17:32.58 | guestno234 | jelly-home: I asked them, however no response for an hour now. |
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| 17:33.18 | sp4rc | one noob question: how comes that 'apt-get update' shows no updates but the gnome-desktop-plugin (i guess its a synaptic plugin) shows one? |
| 17:33.35 | jelly-home | guestno234: it's Sunday. |
| 17:34.36 | antgel | i have a 3G USB stick, and i'd like to setup a *bridge* (not a router) to bridge the WAN IP to my eth0 |
| 17:34.44 | antgel | anyone know if linux bridge can do this? |
| 17:34.51 | antgel | or do i have to use routing / nat? |
| 17:34.52 | guestno234 | sp4rc: Try doing apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 17:35.03 | guestno234 | jelly-home: Oh, well.. |
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| 17:35.33 | epsilon | antgel: switch is not an option? |
| 17:35.38 | mjt | antgel: it depends on particular hardware and driver |
| 17:35.46 | jelly-home | guestno234: having an idle channel for hours or days is par the course for smaller communities |
| 17:36.15 | guestno234 | jelly-home: It is? |
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| 17:36.45 | sp4rc | guestno234: so 'apt-get dist-upgrade' is the prefered way to keep the system up to date |
| 17:36.47 | epsilon | antgel: what interface is WAN using? |
| 17:37.26 | guestno234 | sp4rc: Yeah, it translates to "distro upgrade" obviously, so it upgrades all the packages that need restarting. So short answer, yes. |
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| 17:38.03 | antgel | epsilon: switch not an option, WAN interface will be some USB 3G dongle |
| 17:38.10 | antgel | mjt: okay, so try it and see? |
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| 17:46.38 | epsilon | antgel: and why not a 3G-Router? |
| 17:47.07 | epsilon | you mean, you have 3G-Stick and want to provide internet in LAN with NAT? |
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| 17:50.50 | terron | Why is "flashplugin-nonfree" part of the contrib archive, rather than the non-free archive? |
| 17:53.02 | AimHere | Contrib is where apps have some sort of free part that has a nonfree dependency. Presumably that's the case here. |
| 17:53.23 | terron | But flash itself is nonfree, what's why I ask. |
| 17:53.33 | AimHere | Maybe it installs a free software plugin for a browser that requires nonfree flash files to work |
| 17:54.05 | engla | terron: it's a package that runs a download and install |
| 17:54.08 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.14 | terron | ah |
| 17:54.35 | terron | ok, that makes sense then |
| 17:54.43 | engla | a pretty terrible way to construct a debian package IMO |
| 17:55.01 | nsadmin | flash is not contained in the package and so is not non-free |
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| 17:55.27 | nsadmin | s/and so/and so the package/ |
| 17:56.21 | mjt | and apparently there will be no flash for firefo^Wiceweasel from adobe anymore |
| 17:56.24 | User_CL | one question my friend.. |
| 17:56.38 | User_CL | where get time cron daemon for execute task ? |
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| 17:57.00 | nsadmin | cron should be installed |
| 17:57.04 | nsadmin | and at |
| 17:57.11 | User_CL | cron run ! |
| 17:57.33 | nsadmin | try crontab -e |
| 17:57.34 | User_CL | but my problem is 1 hour difference between 'date' and 'cron' |
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| 17:57.57 | nsadmin | what os do you run? |
| 17:58.00 | nsadmin | what version? |
| 17:58.05 | User_CL | squeeze |
| 17:58.23 | User_CL | http://pastebin.com/PJGtAXX3 |
| 17:58.30 | mjt | there has been timezone (DST) changes in quite a few countries recently |
| 17:58.39 | nsadmin | cron should get its time from the variables in date |
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| 17:59.14 | nsadmin | how do you know that's your problem if you previously didn't know it was installed? |
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| 18:00.10 | mjt | so is it cron issue or syslog issue? |
| 18:00.33 | nsadmin | how do you know your time is off? |
| 18:00.42 | nsadmin | what exactly reports that? |
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| 18:01.02 | mjt | Mar 25 12:24:34 dique nmbd[1276]: [2012/03/25 13:24:34.078493, 0] |
| 18:01.18 | mjt | nmbd reports 13:24, syslog says 12:24 |
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| 18:01.39 | nsadmin | isnt' that a samba daemon? |
| 18:01.39 | User_CL | where is the problem ? |
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| 18:02.01 | nsadmin | and so it's not just cron |
| 18:02.09 | mjt | i've no idea how it is related to cron, but apparently there is some issue there :) |
| 18:02.37 | Dulak | mjt: when you run the 'date' command do you see the proper time? |
| 18:02.53 | User_CL | yes... date command show correct time ... |
| 18:02.54 | nsadmin | and proper timezone |
| 18:02.59 | mjt | Dulak: why are you asking me? |
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| 18:03.05 | Dulak | User_CL: what timezone are you in? |
| 18:03.06 | User_CL | and this date is used for cron or not ? |
| 18:03.18 | User_CL | America/Santiago |
| 18:03.33 | Dulak | mjt: was a mistell |
| 18:03.45 | nsadmin | that's utc-(what)? |
| 18:04.00 | mjt | User_CL: all timekeeping is based on UTC, and local offset is either $TZ (as with your case, TZ=UTC date), or /etc/timezone |
| 18:04.02 | User_CL | -4 |
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| 18:04.24 | nsadmin | ok, so you're like new york time? |
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| 18:04.42 | thewanderer1 | if I enable auto USB suspend in powertop, how do I unsuspend the device? the device in question is a tablet (touchscreen), and it doesn't react to touch for some ~15 seconds, then activates, but I'm not sure if it's really it or some program just polling it. |
| 18:04.52 | mjt | /etc/localtime really, not /etc/timezone |
| 18:05.25 | User_CL | mmm |
| 18:05.31 | thewanderer1 | the device seems to suspend and unsuspend at will rather than in reaction to my input |
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| 18:05.40 | nsadmin | do other programs really have to do time arithmetic on UTC? |
| 18:05.55 | nsadmin | that seems a non-portable arrangement |
| 18:06.03 | mjt | most just use localtime() |
| 18:06.17 | Dulak | Normally you keep the system clock at UTC and do the math for your timezone |
| 18:06.23 | coro | hi |
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| 18:06.51 | mjt | unix time_t is utc |
| 18:06.53 | Dulak | It's highly portable, the system clock is not depending on say daylight savings time. |
| 18:06.53 | kimdh | hi all |
| 18:07.43 | User_CL | always exist problem with DST ... |
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| 18:07.54 | coro | gun:D |
| 18:07.55 | nsadmin | what I'm saying by portability, is all programs should use the same call if they want the time |
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| 18:08.32 | mjt | which is localtime(time()) |
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| 18:08.51 | Dulak | nsadmin: Yes localtime is the call, it should use the timezone and the utc date to figure out the correct time |
| 18:08.55 | User_CL | 15:08 |
| 18:09.22 | nsadmin | hmm, that's an hour more easter |
| 18:09.28 | junior7 | code prasetyo :D looking me |
| 18:09.30 | junior7 | :) |
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| 18:09.44 | coro | uy gun dala:D |
| 18:10.10 | coro | learn here abot debian with me gun:D |
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| 18:10.19 | coro | *about |
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| 18:10.43 | junior7 | wkwkwkwkw.... i say you code... kiss me again and again :v |
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| 18:11.43 | User_CL | in crontab have : "10 15 * * * /usr/bin/php -q /root/mail.1500.php" but this not run at 15:10:00 hrs... run at 16:10:00 hrs. |
| 18:11.50 | coro | anyone know how to use ssh for tunneling?? |
| 18:12.32 | nsadmin | knowbody sums |
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| 18:14.05 | nsadmin | coro, here, is debian support... your question is about networking |
| 18:14.13 | coro | owh |
| 18:14.35 | coro | sorry |
| 18:14.42 | nsadmin | no problem :) |
| 18:15.55 | coro | how to set up sound on dektop KDE based?? |
| 18:16.12 | coro | i was remove sound icon |
| 18:16.15 | nsadmin | usually you would set up drivers |
| 18:16.30 | nsadmin | if you do lspci -nn |
| 18:16.53 | nsadmin | one of thoes lines is about your sound hardware |
| 18:17.17 | nsadmin | show that line |
| 18:18.10 | coro | ok,but i already have sound,but i do mistake with remove icon KMix,after that i try to use KMix from kickof menu-multimedia-KMix,but doesnt open |
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| 18:18.38 | coro | i use HDA NVidia alc883 |
| 18:18.54 | nsadmin | hmm... I do have kde but never did install kmix |
| 18:18.57 | nsadmin | try: |
| 18:19.20 | nsadmin | find the pacakge for kmis, purge it, then install |
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| 18:19.39 | coro | ok i will try |
| 18:19.42 | nsadmin | it might add back its icon when you reinstall the package |
| 18:19.54 | nsadmin | speaking of sound... I go play bass now |
| 18:19.57 | coro | wich i should to install?? |
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| 18:20.08 | nsadmin | I guess kmix |
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| 18:20.11 | nsadmin | let's seee |
| 18:20.13 | coro | owh ok |
| 18:20.20 | nsadmin | , versions kmix |
| 18:20.21 | judd | Package: kmix on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.9-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; sid: 4:4.7.4-2; wheezy: 4:4.7.4-2 |
| 18:20.22 | coro | thx for info |
| 18:20.34 | nsadmin | that one |
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| 18:22.17 | Daniel0108 | hmm, my subwoofer crackles a bit on 100% volume (and on 200% it's so loud that you don't hear anything else anymore) o.O what's wrong? (I tested it on windows before I moved to debian, and everything worked) |
| 18:22.55 | Daniel0108 | it's an integrated subwoofer on the XPS 17, so I can't check wiring |
| 18:22.55 | nsadmin | does it get as loud in win? |
| 18:23.05 | Daniel0108 | nsadmin, I suppose not, but I'm not sure |
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| 18:23.18 | Daniel0108 | nsadmin, what I wanted to know is, is it bad for the subwoofer? |
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| 18:23.25 | Daniel0108 | I'm afraid it is |
| 18:23.48 | nsadmin | does it get "so loud that you don't even hear anythng else any more" in win? |
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| 18:24.05 | Daniel0108 | I meant, the subwoofer goes so loud that I can't hear the normal sound anymore |
| 18:24.09 | Daniel0108 | on 200% volume |
| 18:24.20 | nsadmin | understood. does it do that in win? |
| 18:24.23 | Daniel0108 | but I'm only on 100% and it already crackles |
| 18:24.25 | Daniel0108 | no, it doesn't |
| 18:24.39 | nsadmin | ok, perhaps win uses a different scale |
| 18:24.52 | Daniel0108 | yeah, I think so too |
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| 18:24.57 | nsadmin | and maybe only goes to (say) 75% |
| 18:24.59 | Daniel0108 | nsadmin, but can it break the subwoofer? |
| 18:25.05 | nsadmin | sure |
| 18:25.12 | Daniel0108 | that's what I'm afraid of :P |
| 18:25.17 | Dulak | Yes, overdriving any speaker can destroy it |
| 18:25.37 | Daniel0108 | I suppose I'll have to find the right limit on linux, then :P |
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| 18:25.57 | Dulak | You should play with your EQ settings, bring the bass down a bit so when it scales it won't overdrive the subwoofer |
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| 18:26.06 | nsadmin | yep, and if you're the headliner at a Day On The Green, don't pull your guitar plug... or 100 very large speakers will make a very large pop! |
| 18:26.06 | Daniel0108 | okay, thanks |
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| 18:26.18 | nsadmin | in front of 100000 people! |
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| 18:26.32 | Daniel0108 | nsadmin, LOL |
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| 18:27.16 | nsadmin | and on a bad day you just killed all of them with one pop... |
| 18:27.20 | Daniel0108 | nsadmin, I've never had an internal subwoofer and the externals were even able to hold 200%, that's why I asked :P |
| 18:27.39 | nsadmin | good thing you did :) |
| 18:27.45 | Daniel0108 | 80-90% is fine |
| 18:29.24 | Daniel0108 | nsadmin, anyway, what audio player do you use? (I used to use mpd + ncmpcpp, yes, I am a CLI guy :P) |
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| 18:30.35 | nsadmin | I use sometimes audacious, audacity, ardour |
| 18:30.48 | nsadmin | the latter are also recorders |
| 18:31.00 | User_CL | nsadmin: if make one new file 'localtime'.. this copy /etc/localtime and /usr/share/zoneinfo/Chile/Continental ? |
| 18:31.02 | FernandoBasso | I do "su -c 'ip link set eth0 down', but "ip addr show" still shows an ip address. Any ideas? |
| 18:31.36 | nsadmin | up and down doesn't matter for assigned address |
| 18:32.41 | FernandoBasso | Also, /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down, shouldn't it put the interface down and unconfigure it? |
| 18:33.17 | nsadmin | "and unconfigure it", dunno what that means... yes, it puts the interface down |
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| 18:33.50 | nsadmin | also vlc |
| 18:34.05 | FernandoBasso | nsadmin: Sorry, english is not easy for me. I tried to mean, remove the address assigned to that interface. |
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| 18:34.08 | nsadmin | (another player I use) |
| 18:34.21 | sweb | any easy guide for binding domain in debian 6 ? |
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| 18:34.30 | sobukus | Hi, I'm the upstream maintainer of mpg123 an am wondering who I can poke about pending bug fixes / updates when the debian maintainer (Daniel K.) seems inactive. |
| 18:34.31 | combro | vlc is good player |
| 18:34.36 | nsadmin | I don't think ifconfig ... down removes the address |
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| 18:35.28 | cardiel | is it possible to run maradns as master and bind9 as slave? |
| 18:35.31 | nsadmin | sobukus, you can introduce yourself to the debian maint by sending mail to mpg123@packages.debian.org |
| 18:35.42 | konradb | hi, is it possible to compile gnome 2 in Debian Sid and work on it well? |
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| 18:36.02 | nsadmin | it's... possible... |
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| 18:36.23 | konradb | nsadmin: but will it work ok? |
| 18:36.28 | konradb | updating etc? |
| 18:36.35 | nsadmin | dunno... never tried it |
| 18:36.36 | konradb | without installing gnome3? |
| 18:36.38 | cardiel | nsadmin, are you answering me or konradb ? =) |
| 18:36.52 | sobukus | nsadmin: you mean contacting the debian maintainer of the package? Well, I know him, we exchanged mails in the past... but he doesn't seem to have much time for packaging these days / is unavailable. |
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| 18:37.29 | sobukus | nsadmin: what kind of fallback is there in this case? |
| 18:37.46 | combro | where's i can find tutorial about update kernel manually on debian for new kernel??pdf tutorial about kernel updating |
| 18:37.51 | nsadmin | sobukus, wanna be its maintainer? or, ask present maintainer if he/she would be ok with giving the package to someone with more time? |
| 18:38.28 | nsadmin | !kernel-oackage |
| 18:38.43 | nsadmin | !kernel-[svlshr |
| 18:38.54 | nsadmin | !kernel-package |
| 18:38.54 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 18:39.07 | sobukus | nsadmin: well, I'd prefer the latter, as I never dealt with debian packaging myself and am time-constrained with the upstream management already... |
| 18:39.27 | nsadmin | the script packages for you |
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| 18:39.36 | combro | i will save that info |
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| 18:40.20 | nsadmin | say this to yourself while facing east (or maybe 32 deg west north south): |
| 18:40.21 | sobukus | feels a bit of confusion with nsadmin as the main hub of communication here |
| 18:40.25 | nsadmin | !kp mantra |
| 18:40.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an <initrd>. |
| 18:40.43 | sobukus | thjthe last lines were for combro, right? |
| 18:40.59 | nsadmin | whoever wants to build a kernel :) |
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| 18:42.13 | combro | i always want to try new kernel,like v.3.3 for now |
| 18:42.17 | combro | :D |
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| 18:42.27 | combro | for new n feel fresh:D |
| 18:42.39 | nsadmin | showers are good for that |
| 18:42.47 | sobukus | nsadmin: OK... now... what happens to a debian package if the maintainer goes asleep? I asked him about updating on 8rd of March. Might be on a long vacation... |
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| 18:43.06 | sobukus | nsadmin: so asking him to give the package to someone else won't work if he doesn't respond:-/ |
| 18:43.31 | smhar | I got myself a new gift, a dreamplug (http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx), I updated it to debian squeeze, and it is working nicely now. The wifi is working in AP mode, but does not give an IP to clients, what files should I edit for this? |
| 18:43.56 | sobukus | smhar: installing a DHCP server is an idea |
| 18:44.33 | combro | if,i add some ubuntu repo on debian squeeze,that will work well with instalation or not?? |
| 18:44.42 | sobukus | o.O |
| 18:45.02 | sobukus | I'm no debian guy, but I strongly suppose the answer will be NOOOOOoooo... |
| 18:45.04 | nsadmin | Not. |
| 18:45.13 | combro | owhhhhhh |
| 18:45.37 | nsadmin | right, won't work, will break, spectacularly |
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| 18:46.02 | combro | but my friend is ubuntu user n he add debian repo n work well(he said):"> |
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| 18:46.21 | nsadmin | lotsa bright lights, buzzy sounds, (wait, that's not a bright light... oh shit! FIRE!) |
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| 18:46.40 | frikinz | combro: he's wrong |
| 18:46.56 | smhar | what package is that? dhcp3-server? |
| 18:46.57 | combro | owhhh |
| 18:47.05 | smhar | sobukus, |
| 18:47.10 | nsadmin | smhar, worth a shot |
| 18:47.23 | sobukus | smhar: sounds good (though I admit I don't use debian as dhcp server) |
| 18:47.27 | frikinz | smhar: yes |
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| 18:47.54 | combro | behhh 12.52AM |
| 18:48.02 | combro | i have to go sleep |
| 18:48.06 | combro | bye all |
| 18:48.13 | combro | thx for respond |
| 18:48.15 | nsadmin | nave fun |
| 18:48.18 | combro | i will be back |
| 18:48.34 | Daniel0108 | libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- # ls /usr/lib/libSD* | /usr/lib/libSDL_console.so.1 -- I installed libsdl1.2-dev, didn't create the .so file :/ |
| 18:48.41 | sobukus | nsadmin: sorry for persisting, but will mpg123@packages.debian.org do anything different than forwarding to the guy I already know? If yes, I'd repeat, who to call when a maintainer went missing? |
| 18:48.45 | smhar | installing and apt-get wants to grab isc-dhcp-server too |
| 18:49.00 | sobukus | smhar: that still sounds good;-) |
| 18:49.10 | nsadmin | no, I don't think so |
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| 18:49.22 | frikinz | smhar: yes that's good |
| 18:49.32 | frikinz | at least here it works with this.. |
| 18:49.44 | smhar | great :-) |
| 18:49.45 | sobukus | nsadmin: sorry, was that regarding my answer to smhar? |
| 18:49.52 | nsadmin | I'd suggest don't hijack unless you get absolutely no response |
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| 18:50.27 | lancelot_of | hi there |
| 18:50.30 | nsadmin | sobukus, mailing to that address I believe will only mail the maint of record\ |
| 18:50.35 | frikinz | Daniel0108: I think you need libsdl-console |
| 18:52.03 | sobukus | somewhat concludes that there is no standard procedure for this case |
| 18:52.24 | Daniel0108 | frikinz, installing ia32-libs-dev fixed it |
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| 18:52.55 | Kotus | i was searching for libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 , to run a 32bit game on amd64, and i found out it is in ubuntu ia32-libs but not debian ia32-libs |
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| 18:53.19 | lancelot_of | something strange happening on my debian wheezy system. When wifi on, after some time the link to the router still stays on but no way of surfing the web or using any mail client or internet app. Sometimes else, the link falls down and when i do ifdown wlan0, i get an error regarding hostname. Indeed if i open a new terminal i can't read my system hostname, but i read something like 'new-host01' in the prompt and i must /etc/init |
| 18:53.20 | lancelot_of | .d/hostname stop then start. What's going on?How to fix? |
| 18:53.22 | Daniel0108 | libcairo.so.2, next problem :P |
| 18:53.44 | Daniel0108 | libcairo2 is installed, but libcairo.so.2 doesn't exist |
| 18:54.13 | Guest7036 | hia, need help with lm-sensors, i ve squeeze installed in my laptop and rpm doesnt work anyone can help |
| 18:54.13 | Guest7036 | ? |
| 18:54.35 | orthon | hia, need help with lm-sensors, i ve squeeze installed in my laptop and rpm doesnt work anyone can help? |
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| 18:56.09 | orthon | ;& |
| 18:56.42 | shingouz | orthon: rpm? sounds like you are not using debian there |
| 18:56.59 | orthon | yap |
| 18:57.07 | orthon | rpm of fancontrol |
| 18:57.09 | orthon | :) |
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| 18:57.27 | shingouz | ah. |
| 18:57.33 | orthon | :D |
| 18:57.34 | orthon | sorry |
| 18:57.50 | frikinz | Daniel0108: try to run ldconfig |
| 18:59.03 | smhar | sobukus, frikinz, nsadmin, I got this message: Starting ISC DHCP server: dhcpdcheck syslog for diagnostics. ... failed! |
| 18:59.08 | orthon | shingouz can you help me? |
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| 18:59.21 | frikinz | smhar: so check syslog ? |
| 18:59.59 | shingouz | orthon: not sure |
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| 19:00.12 | orthon | :( oky |
| 19:00.33 | shingouz | hmm.... lets see if i still remember the trigger for dpkg |
| 19:00.43 | shingouz | !tell orthon about lm-sensors |
| 19:01.13 | shingouz | orthon: check what dpkg says. seems like there is a pretty good faq on the wiki |
| 19:01.20 | sobukus | smhar: I guess you need to configure it (/etc/dhcpd.conf was it back when I ran a DHCP server) |
| 19:01.20 | matt8686 | I would like to increase my "/" partition by finally decreasing the size of the "/home": http://pastebin.com/ArvCYihC Is it possible to shrink the extended partition(/dev/sda2) as a whole or do I need to change every partition size inside the extended partition separately? |
| 19:01.36 | Daniel0108 | frikinz, # ldconfig -l libcairo.so.2 -- ldconfig: Cannot lstat libcairo.so.2: No such file or directory |
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| 19:02.10 | frikinz | Daniel0108: never used -l , I meant ldconfig or ldconfig -v and look for links created |
| 19:02.49 | lancelot_of | no suggestions for me? |
| 19:03.05 | frikinz | Daniel0108: you're mixing 32 and 64 bits? If yes then I'm not sure I'll be of any help. |
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| 19:03.46 | Daniel0108 | frikinz, I don't want to mix 32 and 64 bits |
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| 19:04.36 | frostschutz | matt8686: if you shrink sda9, you can shrink sda2, and create a sda3 at the end. but that's a horrible partition layout then. |
| 19:04.49 | frikinz | Daniel0108: have a look at ldconfig -v |
| 19:05.51 | frikinz | lancelot_of: so you have wifi problems and if you get assigned a new hostname, a lot of things will fail.. sudo for example. ifdown should'nt complain afaik |
| 19:05.56 | frostschutz | matt8686: I'd recommend mergin / and /usr instead, without repartitioning at all |
| 19:06.50 | Strav | Hi. I'm getting fed up with v-server (host kernel panic when trying to build guests, vcontext: pivot_root(): Invalid argument when trying to start a guest loaded from a template, etc, etc. Are there good alternatives to v-server, using the same approach (virtual systems in chroots)? I've heard about lxc, anyone can tell if it's any good? |
| 19:07.12 | frikinz | lancelot_of: what wifi card do you have, what kernel do you have? |
| 19:07.23 | Strav | (note I would require that the alternative plays well with grsec) |
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| 19:08.41 | frostschutz | Strav: kvm? |
| 19:08.59 | lancelot_of | frikinz, i've intel wifi card (iwlangn module) and kernel 3.2.0-1-amd64 |
| 19:09.28 | matt8686 | frostschutz, ok, but it's possible to decrease the size of each partition starting from /dev/sda9 until I finally shrink the /dev/sda2 and then I'm able to make /dev/sda1 larger? |
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| 19:09.51 | frikinz | lancelot_of: and do you see something in dmesg when you have problems? |
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| 19:12.12 | smhar | frikinz, less /var/log/syslog |grep dhcp : http://pastebin.com/1qLHtECw |
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| 19:12.31 | frostschutz | matt8686: you risk losing data, if you shuffle partitions around like that. it also takes a lot of time |
| 19:13.36 | frikinz | yes, it will take a lot of time but its doable. using gparted is quite safe. make backups of important data |
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| 19:14.08 | frostschutz | matt8686: you could use sda1 as /boot partition. 323M is a bit large for /boot but hey, who cares. Your /usr partition is large enough to become the new /. So you can leave the partitions as they were. but that's just what I'd do in your situation, it's your choice |
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| 19:16.00 | quebre | how can i install pygtk ? |
| 19:16.07 | quebre | aptitude install pygtk doesn't work |
| 19:16.39 | frikinz | quebre: doesn't work, like it doesn't have a job? |
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| 19:18.57 | quebre | don't be silly |
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| 19:19.39 | Strav | frostschutz: I'd be looking for something perhaps more lightweight than kvm |
| 19:19.52 | matt8686 | frostschutz, ok, but how to change partitions like this? I mean how do you make "/usr" to become "/"? |
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| 19:21.51 | frostschutz | matt8686: in a rescue system / livecd, mkdir /mnt/usr; mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/usr; cd /mnt/usr; mkdir usr; mv * usr; - that moves all files and folders on the usr partition into a usr folder, so it becomes /usr when that partition is mounted as / |
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| 19:22.51 | frostschutz | matt8686: after that, you copy the files from your old root partition over to your new root partition |
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| 19:23.58 | frostschutz | matt8686: you'll also have to adapt your grub config and /etc/fstab to reflect the new situation |
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| 19:25.24 | matt8686 | frostschutz, thanks, I'll give it a try. |
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| 19:26.09 | Julie_K | hi |
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| 19:48.37 | guardian | hi |
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| 19:49.01 | guardian | can someone remind the command to show which package installed package foo? i'm looking for reverse dependencies |
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| 19:49.29 | frikinz | aptitude why ? apt-rdepends ? |
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| 19:49.58 | nkuttler | guardian: apt-cache rdepends |
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| 19:50.32 | abrotman | aptitude why foo |
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| 19:51.11 | guardian | thank you guys, aptitude why it was |
| 19:51.14 | nsadmin | you can even build a dep graph and show it w graphviz |
| 19:51.14 | abrotman | Kotus: ar x |
| 19:51.18 | Kotus | ok |
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| 19:52.04 | Kotus | also, dpkg -x |
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| 19:52.12 | haotian | the debian installer asks for domain name, what shall I put there ? the domain resolving to my wan ip ? or the local ip of the computer ? or just localhost ? |
| 19:52.29 | nsadmin | a deb is (vers 2) an .ar having a text file and 2 tarballs |
| 19:52.31 | haotian | or something else ? |
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| 19:53.41 | nsadmin | does your lan have a domain? |
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| 19:54.00 | MestreLion | guys, I just noticed that oldstable (lenny) was removed from the security repo a few minutes ago |
| 19:54.07 | WeakTea | is there an easy way to get xbmc eden (v11) on squeeze? |
| 19:54.12 | MestreLion | (or hours, not sure) |
| 19:54.28 | haotian | nsadmin :: how does a lan have a domain ? |
| 19:54.29 | fasta | # synaptic => Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 19:54.30 | MestreLion | was any maintence in security repos planned for today? |
| 19:54.34 | fasta | This didn't happen before. |
| 19:54.35 | nsadmin | yes, and? |
| 19:54.38 | nkuttler | MestreLion: hm, i though it was a few weeks ago at least |
| 19:54.43 | haotian | like in hosts file doing, 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 19:54.47 | haotian | machine1 localhost ? |
| 19:54.59 | haotian | so machine1 becomes the local domain ? |
| 19:55.04 | MestreLion | nkuttler: nope... I've acessed it no more than 2 days ago |
| 19:55.15 | nkuttler | MestreLion: accessed as in .. ? |
| 19:55.40 | MestreLion | nkuttler: http://security.debian.org/dists/ |
| 19:55.59 | nkuttler | !lenny security |
| 19:56.00 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 19:56.14 | nkuttler | MestreLion: so the repo was still up but not up to date |
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| 19:56.46 | MestreLion | but the shutdown happened today or yesterday... was there any announcement on this? |
| 19:57.17 | nsadmin | see above for announce |
| 19:57.25 | nkuttler | MestreLion: it was obsolete. not aware of any announcement, but such an announcement sounds superfluous |
| 19:58.38 | MestreLion | i'm not interested in lenny per-se, it happens that this week i was developing a script that calculates distro sizes |
| 19:58.54 | haotian | the debian installer asks for domain name, what shall I put there ? I have both internet connection and a local network |
| 19:59.00 | MestreLion | sizes for each release, repo, architecture, etc |
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| 19:59.31 | MestreLion | haotian: if you are in a home network, you probably don't have a domain... leave it blank |
| 19:59.35 | nsadmin | the announcement that counts, meant after the 6th, you could wonder what the heck you downloaded from security :) |
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| 20:00.22 | MestreLion | nsadmin: that is the point... my script caches the Packages.gz files from all repos and components and arch... and then calculate statistics locally |
| 20:00.50 | nsadmin | and, you are wanting? |
| 20:01.18 | MestreLion | I do have the Packages.gz file from lenny security... it is dated 24-MArc |
| 20:01.22 | MestreLion | MArch |
| 20:01.24 | MestreLion | yesterday |
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| 20:01.39 | nkuttler | MestreLion: well there were no security updates since 02/06, so your older stats are still valid |
| 20:02.09 | MestreLion | yes, but I was surprised by today's 404s |
| 20:02.25 | nsadmin | so maybe they lied.... they told you it was cut off second wk feb, but DAM IT ALL they kept on going and (*&(*&(*& serving people longer... damn liars! |
| 20:02.40 | MestreLion | lol nsadmin |
| 20:03.15 | nsadmin | rasafrikin people who want to serve (*&*(&(& |
| 20:03.24 | MestreLion | I'm not complaining... i was just surprised... I mean, what are the odds of they removing a repo the day after you develop a script that caches it? :P |
| 20:03.49 | nkuttler | MestreLion: removing the repo had nothing at all to do with you writing your script |
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| 20:03.56 | nsadmin | I am! they lied! LIED! |
| 20:04.00 | nsadmin | j/k. |
| 20:04.22 | MestreLion | of course not nkuttler ... it's just a surprising coincidence |
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| 20:04.35 | nkuttler | MestreLion: hm, no, really, it's not |
| 20:04.42 | nsadmin | koinkydink? |
| 20:05.11 | nkuttler | oh well maybe you were surprised. now you have the relevant info |
| 20:05.20 | MestreLion | yesterday I finished the script (after 2 days), and it worked 100%... today, I shared with my gf, she executed it and... lots of 404s :P |
| 20:05.53 | nsadmin | oh, a -bad- koinkydink! |
| 20:06.20 | MestreLion | koinkydink? |
| 20:06.37 | nsadmin | isn't that how you spell coincidence? |
| 20:07.03 | MestreLion | are you high ? :P |
| 20:07.18 | nsadmin | I'm on the second floor. |
| 20:07.38 | nsadmin | actually |
| 20:07.39 | nsadmin | I am |
| 20:08.08 | nsadmin | I take 10 full deep belly breaths at start and end of day |
| 20:09.01 | MestreLion | well... not good or bad.. it was just a coincidence... lenny is EOLed a long ago... and they pulled the trigger in the very day I was finishing the script I started 2 days ago.. |
| 20:09.21 | MestreLion | side-question: |
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| 20:09.33 | nsadmin | why not have her upgrade? |
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| 20:09.42 | MestreLion | her who? |
| 20:09.52 | nsadmin | your gf's machine |
| 20:10.00 | MestreLion | noo, she's not using lenny |
| 20:10.12 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 20:10.20 | nsadmin | so just you? |
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| 20:10.25 | MestreLion | the script calculares the repo size of all Debian and Ubuntu's and Mint's releases |
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| 20:11.00 | nkuttler | MestreLion: lenny is obsolete anyway. remove it from your script |
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| 20:11.26 | nsadmin | as you can see it's already crumbling and breaking |
| 20:11.33 | MestreLion | nkuttler: sure, I did that already... I just put it there for the sake of completeness, since it *was* there yesterday :P |
| 20:12.10 | nkuttler | so... what was your point again? |
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| 20:12.37 | MestreLion | soon I'll improve the script to get the list of releases by itself, by parsing the /dists listing |
| 20:12.42 | nsadmin | if you want to count or size the dist, you could see what exists before chasing |
| 20:13.20 | MestreLion | nkuttler: no ppoint... I was curious, came here to see if anything was scheduled to change today |
| 20:13.50 | nkuttler | MestreLion: yeah... and i was surprised it took this long.. just keep an eye on official support schedules |
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| 20:14.17 | nsadmin | so if I have this right, your script just includes lenny to figure its size, and you aren't and your gf isn't running lenny? |
| 20:14.29 | MestreLion | correct nsadmin |
| 20:14.37 | nkuttler | the repo could have been down weeks ago, the moment official support stopped |
| 20:15.07 | MestreLion | nkuttler: so they will probably take the other lenny repos down too? or just security? |
| 20:15.08 | frikinz | Could be interesting to do some debian bug analysing script. like somthing with weights on number of bugs opened and since when they are opened. |
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| 20:15.17 | nsadmin | you could use that... "omg!! my script is making 404s! I NEED A HUG NOW!" |
| 20:16.00 | MestreLion | nsadmin: soon there won't be 404s... I will improve it to find the releases by itself, crawling the urls |
| 20:16.18 | nsadmin | aww... no hug today? |
| 20:16.26 | nkuttler | MestreLion: other lenny repos are still up? i'd be surprised that mirror continue serving old releases. not sure about the master ftp servers |
| 20:16.39 | MestreLion | well, my gf gave me one... but you can hug me too if you want :P |
| 20:16.59 | nsadmin | MestreLion, you may also wish to read man 5 sources.list |
| 20:17.19 | MestreLion | nkuttler: all repos in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/ seem to be fine |
| 20:18.05 | nsadmin | if you read that, you'll realize there are two forms of debian package repo... one has /dists/... |
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| 20:18.11 | nkuttler | MestreLion: interesting.. certainly nothing you can rely on. maybe you want to contact the security team about potentially unarchives secrity updates |
| 20:18.19 | nkuttler | unarchived |
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| 20:18.45 | MestreLion | potentially unarchived? |
| 20:18.50 | nkuttler | . |
| 20:18.57 | nsadmin | * |
| 20:19.20 | MestreLion | what does that mean nkuttler ? |
| 20:19.34 | MestreLion | nsadmin: ... and the other? |
| 20:19.44 | nkuttler | usually point releases are archived with security updates, but i'm not sure what happens when the release becomes obsolete |
| 20:19.54 | nsadmin | I'm not spoilin it for ya! |
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| 20:20.07 | nkuttler | anyway, i doubt anybody really cares :) |
| 20:21.34 | nsadmin | if you care about the bear, go to the fair where there's spare the bear there |
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| 20:21.58 | MestreLion | side-question: shouldn't lenny be removed only when squeeze becomes the "new" oldstable? |
| 20:22.12 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: we do a point release to wrap up all of the security releases, then archive it, generally. |
| 20:22.14 | nkuttler | MestreLion: no |
| 20:22.16 | dondelelcaro | MestreLion: no |
| 20:22.21 | nkuttler | dondelelcaro: good to know! |
| 20:22.24 | nsadmin | shouldn't count on that |
| 20:22.56 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: the last point release for lenny happened a few weeks ago in preparation for its archival |
| 20:22.59 | MestreLion | so will it be a timeframe where Debian has no repo for any oldstable? |
| 20:23.04 | nsadmin | that is on lenny being removed |
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| 20:23.07 | dondelelcaro | MestreLion: yes |
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| 20:23.41 | dondelelcaro | MestreLion: though you can get everything that is in oldstable from archive.debian.org |
| 20:23.47 | MestreLion | i thought oldstable was a permanent thing... and it switched its content when testing becames the new stable |
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| 20:24.12 | dondelelcaro | MestreLion: nah, it's just a pointer at the current oldstable release until we archive the oldstable release. |
| 20:24.18 | nsadmin | does archive.d.o have just cd/dvd images? or is it actually a package mirror? |
| 20:24.25 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: it's a package mirror |
| 20:24.47 | nsadmin | also good to konw |
| 20:24.51 | nkuttler | dondelelcaro: nice. i didn't know there was a final point release |
| 20:24.52 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: or at least, it's a package mirror for relatively recent versions of Debian... I don't know if it still archives packages for say, potato |
| 20:26.04 | JPT | I want to restrict an ssh key to rsync only, but when i use the command directive in authorized_keys, i have to specify one path. How can i allow any path without having to copy&paste that line in authorized_keys? |
| 20:26.20 | MestreLion | dondelelcaro: and are you aware that they pulled the plug... today? :P |
| 20:26.52 | nsadmin | I think maybe dondelelcaro is implying he's on that team :) |
| 20:27.11 | MestreLion | ohhh, sorry :) |
| 20:27.26 | nsadmin | you do'nt have to be |
| 20:27.27 | MestreLion | so, dondelelcaro , was it really today? |
| 20:28.17 | nsadmin | dondelelcaro, what's kept for things like potato? |
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| 20:29.11 | Hydroxide | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ suggests that potato, and way older stuff too, is included |
| 20:29.34 | nsadmin | as packages? |
| 20:29.44 | MestreLion | man, it will be sweet to run my script in archive.debian.org ... comparing sizes of distros since 1.0... measure how it grew |
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| 20:29.51 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: nah, I'm not on the ftpmaster team |
| 20:30.07 | dondelelcaro | (I just sometimes refer to the project as we) |
| 20:30.08 | Hydroxide | I believe as packages, yes |
| 20:30.08 | nsadmin | there was no 1.0 (idiotic infomagic...) |
| 20:30.22 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: I don't know; haven't looked in a long time |
| 20:30.26 | MestreLion | i know nsadmin |
| 20:30.31 | Hydroxide | nsadmin: yes, I see potato packages there |
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| 20:31.06 | nsadmin | cool... so packages make a good unit of archiving... at least good enough to not notice |
| 20:31.06 | MestreLion | I don't need the packages themselves... just Release and Packages.gz files are enough for my stats |
| 20:31.25 | nsadmin | you have to play package pool |
| 20:31.34 | nsadmin | the packages are in the pool |
| 20:31.46 | MestreLion | i don't need the ./pool |
| 20:32.13 | MestreLion | I only scan Release and Packages.gz for each arch in ./dists |
| 20:34.19 | MestreLion | [DIR]Debian-5.0/25-Mar-2012 08:48 |
| 20:34.26 | haotian | what do you recommend me to use ext2 ext3 journal etc.. for /boot and "all others" (all others are in 1 partition) |
| 20:34.30 | MestreLion | indeed change today |
| 20:34.52 | MestreLion | haotian: you really want a separate partition for /boot? |
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| 20:36.24 | haotian | not really |
| 20:36.32 | haotian | it's debian installer default configuration |
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| 20:36.44 | MestreLion | haotian: I would go with ext4 for all of them |
| 20:37.02 | haotian | says primary is boot |
| 20:37.07 | haotian | rest is logical volume |
| 20:37.13 | haotian | ok thx |
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| 20:37.45 | MestreLion | wait.. .default installer suggests a separate /boot? |
| 20:38.10 | jelly-home | which is quite sensible if the rest is on lvm |
| 20:38.24 | haotian | yep |
| 20:38.31 | haotian | yea the rest is on lvm |
| 20:38.37 | haotian | it asked me to a. not use lvm |
| 20:38.43 | haotian | b. use lvm c. use encrypted lvm |
| 20:38.45 | MestreLion | sure jelly-home... but I don't think it suggests LVM by default |
| 20:38.56 | haotian | lvm sounded cool ! so I picked lvm lol |
| 20:38.59 | haotian | I dont know what that is |
| 20:39.03 | MestreLion | ohhh |
| 20:39.08 | MestreLion | well, it IS cool |
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| 20:39.32 | haotian | so u recommend me go with that lvm setup except changing ext2 to ext4 ? |
| 20:39.37 | haotian | or I can go also without lvm |
| 20:39.38 | jelly-home | and then it goes and picks some arbitrary size of swap lv |
| 20:39.38 | MestreLion | but there are implications, specially if you want to dual boot |
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| 20:40.05 | nsadmin | if you want to dual boot, you need foot swords |
| 20:40.22 | haotian | mmm |
| 20:40.29 | MestreLion | haotian: for /boot , filesystem is kind of irrelevant... it's a small partition, seldom wrote |
| 20:40.49 | MestreLion | so ext2 is fine |
| 20:40.53 | nsadmin | I dual boot with one grub controlling everything, and I just mount that as /boot everywhere and grub sorta does it right! |
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| 20:41.28 | nsadmin | ext2 is probably fine, it's also like 32 by now |
| 20:41.55 | nsadmin | well in 1991 he used minix as a base |
| 20:42.04 | MestreLion | haotian: for / , i strongly suggest ext3 or even 4 (not sure what the default is) |
| 20:42.35 | nsadmin | Linus is said to not like extanything |
| 20:42.48 | nsadmin | something about a data structure being too large |
| 20:43.15 | MestreLion | nsadmin: that's for data partitions with huge GB files |
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| 20:44.28 | haotian | thanks |
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| 20:44.37 | MestreLion | haotian: confirming: default for squeeze is ext3 |
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| 20:44.59 | MestreLion | but squeeze is from 2010... you can be bolder than that :P |
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| 20:45.26 | kleanchap | I have 3 user accounts on my Debian system. One of the accounts is the primary on this system. Is it possible to boot directly into this user account and be able to switch to other accounts if required? |
| 20:46.04 | MestreLion | kleanchap: you using any DE ? |
| 20:46.10 | Hydroxide | kleanchap: sure - at least in terms of the GUI. |
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| 20:46.38 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: run gdmsetup if ur using gdm |
| 20:46.45 | kleanchap | MestreLion, ?? What do you mean by DE? |
| 20:46.57 | Hydroxide | MestreLion: the software in squeeze in 2012 is still mostly the software in squeeze in 2010. I don't know what the code maturity level of that version of ext4 is - maybe it had bugs, or maybe it was solid but they weren't sure of that yet. |
| 20:47.07 | MestreLion | kleanchap: Desktop Environment, like Gnome, KDE, etc |
| 20:47.09 | Hydroxide | MestreLion: wheezy's installer currently efaults to ext4 I believe |
| 20:47.11 | kleanchap | Udoblunt, Yes, I am using gdm |
| 20:47.40 | kleanchap | MestreLion, Thanks. Yes I am using Gnome. |
| 20:47.41 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: then run gdmsetup, u can configure it there ; DE is desktop environment btw, like gnome |
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| 20:48.45 | kleanchap | Thanks everyone! |
| 20:49.16 | MestreLion | kleanchap: as Udoblunt said, or System > Administration > Login |
| 20:49.56 | MestreLion | kleanchap: that will allow your primary user to log in automatically with no password |
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| 20:50.06 | kleanchap | MestreLion, Thanks!! |
| 20:50.14 | MestreLion | kleanchap: if you want to switch account, just log off |
| 20:50.25 | MestreLion | it you show the login screen |
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| 20:50.45 | MestreLion | but if you want to return to your account, you would still need password |
| 20:51.03 | MestreLion | the bypass of the login screen is just when you first boot |
| 20:51.38 | kleanchap | When I tried the System > Administration > Login Screen....everything is greyed out except the "Close" button. |
| 20:51.51 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: click ot unlock |
| 20:51.57 | Udoblunt | kleanchap: on the lock itself |
| 20:51.59 | MestreLion | kleanchap: click the shield buton |
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| 20:52.10 | kleanchap | Udoblunt, MestreLion : Thnx! |
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| 20:53.18 | rug | Howdy all |
| 20:53.28 | MestreLion | Is Gnome 3 / Shell the default in whezzy or sid ? |
| 20:53.57 | Udoblunt | MestreLion: yes |
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| 20:54.39 | MestreLion | so 6.0.4 is perhaps the last gnome 2 release? |
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| 20:55.11 | kleanchap | brb |
| 20:55.43 | Udoblunt | guess so |
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| 20:58.04 | MestreLion | dondelelcaro: repos in http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/main/binary-i386/ (and all other archs) are still empty |
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| 20:59.16 | Hydroxide | MestreLion: if you look at the main page of http://archive.debian.org/ you'll see that an archive.d.o update is currently in progress |
| 20:59.24 | Hydroxide | so, patience :) |
| 20:59.36 | MestreLion | oh, sorry |
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| 21:03.57 | robokop | em! |
| 21:04.11 | robokop | sorry, wrong focus |
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| 21:05.34 | quebre | how i can record the mouse movements and clicks and then run it so in the game i get auto clicks and actions ? |
| 21:05.42 | quebre | anyone know ? |
| 21:05.46 | quebre | it's mouse macros |
| 21:05.48 | quebre | hmm |
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| 21:07.18 | abrotman | quebre: in what OS? |
| 21:07.50 | Rug | Is there an IRC channel dedicated to debian on Macbook's? |
| 21:08.22 | quebre | abrotman: debian linux |
| 21:08.52 | quebre | abrotman: basically i need to craft an item in the game, but it's about 1500 clicks |
| 21:08.56 | quebre | i need to have it automated |
| 21:09.06 | Hydroxide | Rug: it's about linux in general, not debian, but #mactel-linux exists on OFTC (irc.oftc.net also known as irc.debian.org) - but it's pretty quiet in the last year or two |
| 21:09.06 | quebre | tried gnee but all it produce is errors |
| 21:09.27 | Rug | Hydroxide: Thanks. |
| 21:09.32 | Hydroxide | Rug: and has roughly nobody in there now |
| 21:09.38 | Rug | =) |
| 21:09.38 | Hydroxide | (one person, plus some URLs in /topic) |
| 21:09.54 | Hydroxide | Rug: this is probably because Linux support for mactels hsa dramatically improved over that time |
| 21:10.00 | Hydroxide | and such a channel is less necessary |
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| 21:10.03 | Rug | Hydroxide: I'll stick with Gogole then, thanks though |
| 21:10.06 | Hydroxide | ok |
| 21:10.14 | robokop | quebre: not sure about recording, but if you know coordinate you might be able to do something with xdotool |
| 21:10.48 | robokop | allows you to move your mousepointer and send mouseclicks (as well as key presses) |
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| 21:12.38 | quebre | robokop: hmm, sound good, will give it a try |
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| 21:17.11 | robokop | quebre: farmville bots are a bit 2009 though ;) |
| 21:18.28 | quebre | robokop: i'm not farming, i just play beta game that doesn't allow me to specify ammount of items to be crafted, if i want to craft few healing powders, i click, but when i want to craft 2000 powders, it's not doable in reasonable ammount of time, not manually ;) |
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| 21:18.45 | abrotman | quebre: sonuds like cheating |
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| 21:19.00 | quebre | abrotman: nope, i asked about that and it's allowed |
| 21:19.02 | quebre | ;) |
| 21:19.14 | abrotman | then ask them how to do it ? |
| 21:19.33 | quebre | abrotman: they don't know how to do it under linux |
| 21:19.36 | robokop | quebre: you won't hear me judging you ;) |
| 21:19.45 | quebre | i like robokop, i don't like abrotman |
| 21:19.47 | quebre | ^.~ |
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| 21:20.25 | robokop | quebre: abrotman does much more helping in this chan, so you should befriend him for better results here |
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| 21:21.52 | quebre | the help should be provided without "sounds like cheating" as he doesn't even know what game it is about. |
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| 21:25.25 | quebre | xdotool did the trick ! |
| 21:25.26 | NishaKitty | I'm getting not found for lenny security updates anyone know why? |
| 21:25.28 | quebre | big thanks :) |
| 21:25.53 | quebre | xdotool mousemove 370 242 click 1;sleep 1;xdotool mousemove 776 331 click 1 ; sleep 1 ; xdotool mousemove 740 557 click 1 <- make it in loop # if someone wonders |
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| 21:30.41 | reder | hi how can i learn debian 4.1.2 release day ? |
| 21:31.22 | CoolCold | huh |
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| 21:31.44 | CoolCold | building kernel with make-kpkg takes a lot of 1) time 2) space now |
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| 21:32.20 | CoolCold | looks like 17gb won't be enough and for some reasons debug package is being built too, while i have not requested it |
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| 21:33.29 | Kalmon | [A |
| 21:33.53 | abrotman | reder: no such release happened .. which versoin ? |
| 21:35.10 | analyzer | hello everyone, does a program installed through wine stores all of its content in /home/username/.wine directory or some place outside also ? |
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| 21:35.51 | abrotman | analyzer: should all be in that .wine directory |
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| 21:37.50 | analyzer | abrotman, okay , thanks |
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| 21:38.18 | ruhurt | does one know how to get rid of a sound stuttering when switching betweem terminals? (ctrl-alt-F#) |
| 21:39.19 | analyzer | abrotman, one more question , what if all the contents of .wine directory gets deleted? how do i get'em back? |
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| 21:39.58 | ruhurt | analyzer: just undelete them |
| 21:40.27 | tremon | analyzer: through your backups |
| 21:40.36 | analyzer | ruhurt: how? |
| 21:41.14 | analyzer | tremon, consider i have no backups |
| 21:41.17 | FDFlock | analyzer: As tremon said, you can't, unless you have a backup |
| 21:41.28 | ruhurt | analyzer: actually, my answer was sarcasm... what file system do you use? |
| 21:42.14 | tremon | analyzer: if you start wine, it will automatically recreate ~/.wine -- but any modifications/installed programs will be lost |
| 21:43.10 | analyzer | FDFlock, okay |
| 21:43.19 | analyzer | ruhurt, ext 4 |
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| 21:43.28 | ruhurt | analyzer: looks bad |
| 21:43.38 | analyzer | tremon, okay thanks |
| 21:43.49 | gwz | hey, I have intel 6050 wifi and just installed squeeze and cant seem to get it working, anyone have ideas? |
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| 21:45.56 | analyzer | ruhurt, why? |
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| 21:46.27 | ruhurt | analyzer: it's about impossible to restore your data |
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| 21:47.23 | _ramo | hi |
| 21:47.29 | analyzer | ruhurt, then the only solution is reinstallation ? |
| 21:47.34 | _ramo | how can i search for a string and replace it with another string in files? |
| 21:47.45 | tremon | _ramo: man 1 sed |
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| 21:48.21 | gwz | ugh apparently gotta upgrade kernel |
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| 21:49.21 | CoolCold | huh |
| 21:49.33 | CoolCold | compiling kernel took ~1h20m |
| 21:49.55 | CoolCold | not so long time ago it taken ~ 20 minutes @ max |
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| 21:50.54 | _ramo | tremon: would that do the job for replacing ibtest with ibNewString ? grep -rl ibtest . | parallel sed -i -e 'ibNewString' ? |
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| 21:52.11 | LordDeath | is it normal that munin did not create /var/www/munin? |
| 21:52.38 | tremon | _ramo: why not just try it? And no, it won't work |
| 21:52.53 | _ramo | tremon: i thought this would break something |
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| 21:53.22 | tremon | _ramo: as long as you're working with pipes, nothing will break |
| 21:53.41 | robin_debspace | Hey all! |
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| 21:53.51 | _ramo | tremon: no idea how to do that |
| 21:54.10 | tremon | but -i doesn't go together with pipes, and you need s// for pattern replacement. it's in the manual, and there are many examples to be found online |
| 21:54.12 | robin_debspace | Quick question… I'm running Debian Squeeze 64-bit on my server and just did a vulnerability test using Nexpose. |
| 21:54.46 | robin_debspace | It complained of several DOS vulnerabilities in Apache and suggested me to upgrade to Apache v2.3 or later... |
| 21:55.22 | robin_debspace | Right now, I'm running 2.2.16 |
| 21:55.39 | ruhurt | robin_debspace: pretty nice kernel |
| 21:56.19 | robin_debspace | And I don't think there's a later version available in the apt repo… So, just wondering, is there any safe way I could do an upgrade to a newer version of Apache? |
| 21:56.49 | frikinz | apache 2.4 entered not so long ago in experimental |
| 21:57.12 | tremon | ,versions apache2 |
| 21:57.14 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny12; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny12; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-6+squeeze4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze4; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.2.16-6+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze6; sid: 2.2.22-2; wheezy: 2.2.22-2; experimental: 2.4.1-2 |
| 21:57.38 | robin_debspace | Hmm… But if I get that upgrade, will I still be able to consider my system stable or is that an even greater security / performance / stability risk? |
| 21:58.02 | tremon | !tell robin_debspace about uupdate |
| 21:58.12 | meLon | My displays' edges are outside of the monitor. I am wondering where I can start looking to fix this issue so that my monitors and displays fit perfectly within my monitor. |
| 21:58.16 | tremon | robin_debspace: the preferred way is to rebuild the package with newer sources |
| 21:58.38 | tremon | robin_debspace: don't know how easy that'll be with a package like apache |
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| 21:59.19 | Cyclohexane | what's wrong with this? :S wget -q -O - "www.gnu.org" | sed -r 's/.*<a href=\"(.*)\">.*<\/a>/\1/' |
| 22:00.15 | tremon | Cyclohexane: it might help if you'd tell us what output you're expecting vs what you're getting |
| 22:00.27 | robin_debspace | tremon Thanks… The thing is, they're all DOS vulnerabilities, no exploits that could lead to a system introsion... |
| 22:01.19 | Cyclohexane | tremon I'm getting the output of the entire webpage i'm expecting just the URLs within <a> tags |
| 22:01.34 | robin_debspace | So I'm wondering if it really would be worth upgrading to an unstable version (especially since I'm not too much of an expert with these things yet, just getting used to Linux administration really)... |
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| 22:02.09 | robin_debspace | Or if I should just leave things as they are and hope that no-one will attempt to do a DOS attack on my Apache. |
| 22:02.20 | tremon | Cyclohexane: in that case, add -n and add a p after the last / |
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| 22:03.28 | Cyclohexane | tremon what do they do? |
| 22:03.37 | FDFlock | robin_debspace: I'm not an expert either, but I'd leave it as it is |
| 22:03.39 | robokop | Cyclohexane: what tremon said, the reason is that -n tells sed to not print lines, and the p after the / to print lines when they matched |
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| 22:03.47 | frikinz | Cyclohexane: or use lynx -dump www.gnu.org |
| 22:03.53 | FDFlock | at least, debian stable is STABLE |
| 22:03.57 | tremon | Cyclohexane: and that will get you the lines with the links transformed, not just the links. For that you need to match against ^.*match.*$, which will only give you one link per link even if there were multiple |
| 22:04.13 | tremon | * one link per line |
| 22:04.44 | frikinz | Cyclohexane: lynx -dump --listonly www.gnu.org |
| 22:05.55 | robin_debspace | Thanks… Yes that's true, it's a stable system and it really runs just fine… Oh well, "never touch a running system" I guess :-) |
| 22:05.59 | _ramo | does anyone use svn here? if i move a svn project to another folder with the metadata folder, how do i change the directory path in the .svn files? |
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| 22:07.45 | robin_debspace | Also, I've got another Apache-related question, though this one is more of a file permission thing... |
| 22:08.48 | robin_debspace | On my Debian server, I set up Froxlor for doing user management stuff (I really like this interface since it's not cluttered and since you still have to do all the setup by hand so you know what's going on on your system). |
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| 22:10.02 | robin_debspace | Recently, I moved over a WordPress blog from another server. For this purpose, I created a "customer" called Robin in Froxlor, which essentially created a directory in /var/customers/webs/robin and an appropriate VHost in Apache. |
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| 22:10.52 | robin_debspace | I set up a MySQL database, imported all the Wordpress tables into that, copied over all the files to the new directory and it pretty much worked... |
| 22:11.33 | robin_debspace | Except that whenever I wanted to do something file-related from within the Wordpress admin interface, it would complain about missing write permissions to the files... |
| 22:12.27 | robin_debspace | I tried pretty much anything, even chmod -R 755 on that folder, but no luck... |
| 22:12.43 | chogath | hello |
| 22:13.04 | chogath | how do you install perl modules on debian? |
| 22:13.10 | robin_debspace | The only thing that worked was adding the user robin to the www-data group using usermod -G www-data robin, at that point it worked without any trouble... |
| 22:13.12 | chogath | i need XML::Simple and XML::DOM |
| 22:13.24 | robin_debspace | But is that really the only possible solution for such an issue? |
| 22:13.32 | FDFlock | robin_debspace: I've got no idea regarding this issue (not a web server admin!), but my first guess would be file/group ownership |
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| 22:14.31 | samantha-a-- | how difficult is it to get deg/gnome running with three heads? the last time i tried messing around with xinerama, i wound up pulling out all my pubic hair with tweezers because it was easier and less painful. |
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| 22:15.42 | dondelelcaro | samantha-a--: really depends on the video cards; I'm runing on three heads right now. |
| 22:15.46 | FDFlock | robin_debspace: I'm not sure whether adding anyone to the www-data group would be safe... Isn't only the httpd supposed to touch those files? |
| 22:15.58 | samantha-a-- | dondelelcaro, what cards? i have a pair of EVGA 460SEs, 1st gen |
| 22:16.14 | dondelelcaro | samantha-a--: if the video cards support xrandr, it's pretty trivial. otherwise, setting them up with different X servers is generally the way to go |
| 22:16.16 | FDFlock | I mean, now robin can probably read/write files that aren't strictly his... |
| 22:17.07 | themill | chogath: you might find apt-file very handy for this if apt-cache doesn't turn them up. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 22:17.21 | FDFlock | not sure, but wouldn't making www-data the "owner" of the files and robin the "group" be safer? |
| 22:17.23 | robin_debspace | FDFlock Hmmm, well… The files belong to the user and group that were created for the new user, so robin:robin. But the thing is, and that's also why I added the user to the www-data group, when Apache accesses these files, it doesn't execute them as robin:robin, but as www-data:www-data. And since neither group nor user www-data have write permissions on the files, any modifications fail. |
| 22:17.37 | dondelelcaro | samantha-a--: a quadro fx 570, and a ati radion 7000/ve |
| 22:17.44 | dondelelcaro | samantha-a--: nothing particularly exciting |
| 22:17.57 | LordDeath | my apache complains about this line: "Alias /munin /var/cache/munin/www " |
| 22:19.02 | LordDeath | it says: " The Alias directive in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/munin at line 1 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias. " |
| 22:19.05 | LordDeath | what can I do? |
| 22:19.17 | tremon | LordDeath: remove the earlier alias? |
| 22:19.30 | LordDeath | I don't see an earlier alias |
| 22:19.32 | LordDeath | :-S |
| 22:19.35 | dondelelcaro | LordDeath: that's just a warning, anyway. |
| 22:19.54 | FDFlock | robin_debspace: Whatever you do, do not base the security of your server on my recommendations :) ...but wouldn't "chown -Rv :www-data /my/files/" seem more logical? |
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| 22:20.04 | robin_debspace | FDFlock yeah… You're right… I mean, now this isn't a big deal since I'm Robin and also the root of the server, but technically, I don't think this is a good idea either. |
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| 22:20.17 | tremon | robin_debspace: you'd need to chmod g+w as well |
| 22:20.32 | robin_debspace | FDFlock So, you think it would be the best to do a chown -R robin:www-data on the folder? |
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| 22:21.37 | FDFlock | robin_debspace: Just a hunch |
| 22:21.40 | FDFlock | :) |
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| 22:23.11 | FDFlock | Since robin is (pretty much) the admin, it doesn't really matter - it will be a "trusted" account. But if it was another user you'd have to be careful, indeed. |
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| 22:24.27 | robin_debspace | Thx FDFlock… And yep, you're right, that seems like a much better plan and actually much simpler. Oh well, it was late at night when I did this so my logical thinking was probably a bit rusty :-) |
| 22:24.29 | frikinz | chogath: I'd suggest always using cpan |
| 22:24.36 | tremon | FDFlock: I'd be much more worried since robin is a trusted account, not less :) I'd make sure the partition with the write-access for www-data was mounted noexec |
| 22:25.13 | tremon | s/was/is/ |
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| 22:25.22 | thewanderer1 | robin_debspace, http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions - you can use ACL for the cleanest solution, suitable for shared hosting... |
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| 22:26.02 | LordDeath | now I got it |
| 22:26.19 | LordDeath | my apache was looking for an index.php |
| 22:26.21 | robin_debspace | And also thx for your input tremon…. Yeah, I know this idea has some serious flaws, because if, say, there was an exploit in Wordpress that someone abused on my server they could possibly access everything that www-data has access to… Not something I'd want for sure. |
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| 22:26.26 | FDFlock | good point about noexec as an additional measure, but it doesn't provide any real security and can be easily circumvented |
| 22:26.30 | LordDeath | but munin is using index.html :-) |
| 22:26.53 | frikinz | chogath: altough debian is quite up to date. the naming convention is http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/ch-module_packages.html#s-package_names |
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| 22:27.33 | LordDeath | a couple minutes before I created a /var/www/munin directory and pointed munin to that |
| 22:27.33 | tremon | FDFlock: it might prevent tricking the admin (robin) from executing something put there by www-data. Yes, I know scripts can also be sourced, but hey, it's wordpress, it's expected to be a security risk |
| 22:27.51 | frikinz | wow munin 2 is in unstable! at last! :) |
| 22:27.57 | LordDeath | but due to problem with the apache2 config I reverted back to munin's default htmldir |
| 22:28.39 | robin_debspace | thewanderer1 thanks… I'll have a look at that as well :-) |
| 22:28.41 | LordDeath | I deleted /var/www/munin but now apache2 always complains about this alias because it overlaps an earlier alias |
| 22:29.06 | tremon | LordDeath: see, your software always knows better than you :p |
| 22:29.16 | FDFlock | tremon: a good point, again... thank you |
| 22:29.36 | LordDeath | tremon: and how can I find the cause of this message? |
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| 22:30.53 | tremon | LordDeath: I believe apache has a command/url that would have listed all virtual directories, that would surely have shown the problem. But I don't know it well enough to be sure |
| 22:32.38 | robin_debspace | Btw… What's a good program to monitor syslog / other log files for any errors produced by the daemons and that would send me an email alert if something seems to go wrong? I do look at my syslog regularly but that keeps expanding so rapidly (mainly because of Postfix) that it's pretty much impossible to read everything. |
| 22:32.43 | LordDeath | is there a command line tool to create htpasswd files? |
| 22:32.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | apache2ctl configtest |
| 22:33.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | might tell you the file(s) config issue |
| 22:33.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | LordDeath: 'htpasswd' |
| 22:33.26 | LordDeath | Kamping_Kaiser: thx |
| 22:33.34 | LordDeath | the command shows only the same warning |
| 22:34.00 | LordDeath | http://pastebin.com/HpnHr4UD |
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| 22:34.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | LordDeath: what sites do you have enabled? |
| 22:34.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | (sorry if this has been covered already) |
| 22:34.55 | robin_debspace | LordDeath a good way of finding packages is using apt-cache search <keyword>, e.g. apt-cache search htpasswd |
| 22:35.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | its shipped with apache2-utils, not a package on its own |
| 22:35.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | the search advice stands though :) |
| 22:35.47 | LordDeath | htpasswd was already installed on my system ^^ |
| 22:36.07 | robin_debspace | Once you found some package that you think will help you, you can do apt-cache show <packagename> to get more details. |
| 22:36.18 | LordDeath | about the Alias |
| 22:36.34 | LordDeath | I have 6 files in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 22:37.00 | haotian | Can anyone correct this including the order and partition sizes (you may remove partitions or add), http://ideone.com/GMXOU |
| 22:37.01 | LordDeath | and 6 links to these files in sites-enabled |
| 22:37.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | k |
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| 22:37.39 | robin_debspace | Kamping_Kaiser Thanks :-) Like I said, I'm still quite new to Debian administration and only found out about this like 2 months ago, and I think it's sooooooooo valuable haha :-) |
| 22:37.44 | LordDeath | I have "000-default" and "default-ssl" in there |
| 22:37.56 | LordDeath | then the "munin" file |
| 22:38.07 | LordDeath | and three files for zarafa |
| 22:38.33 | LordDeath | so I can access mydomain.com/webaccess |
| 22:38.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | robin_debspace: it is good. things like apt-file search `which htpasswd` or dpkg -S `which apache2` are handy as well |
| 22:38.55 | LordDeath | mydomain.com/webapp & mydomain.com/webaccess-mobile |
| 22:39.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | LordDeath: can you pastebin `grep Alias /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*` please |
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| 22:40.12 | robin_debspace | Kamping_Kaiser Ah, thanks! I will check these out as well :-) |
| 22:40.27 | LordDeath | Kamping_Kaiser: http://pastebin.com/a3KVeHTJ |
| 22:40.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | robin_debspace: `` are shell builtin, which is an external command (but still core) |
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| 22:42.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | LordDeath: hm, nothing springs out at me. |
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| 22:42.37 | LordDeath | then I should look in apache2.conf and httpd.conf |
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| 22:43.00 | LordDeath | httpd.conf as one other alias |
| 22:43.08 | LordDeath | "Alias /Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync /var/www/z-push-1.5.8-1187/index.php" |
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| 22:43.48 | sharky1 | hello pplz |
| 22:43.51 | LordDeath | apache2.conf has none |
| 22:44.07 | LordDeath | but before I tried to set this alias in apache2.conf |
| 22:44.18 | LordDeath | I already reverted this |
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| 22:45.35 | sharky1 | if i donate here http://debconf12.debconf.org/payments.xhtml, does the money go directly to the debian project |
| 22:45.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | LordDeath: the only other thing i can think of is apache2ctl -S |
| 22:46.10 | haotian | can anyone help me solving the linux partition maze ! http://ideone.com/8fXq7 |
| 22:46.23 | gnarface | sharky1: i don't know but since that isn't a debian.org domain, i'd think not. i'm also not gonna click on it |
| 22:46.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | haotian: hwo did you get yourself into that maze? |
| 22:46.58 | gnarface | sharky1: maybe though. seems shady |
| 22:47.03 | gnarface | sharky1: hmm |
| 22:47.06 | gnarface | dpkg: donate? |
| 22:47.06 | dpkg | If you like Debian and are able to donate hardware, services or money, please do so. See http://www.debian.org/donations and http://www.spi-inc.org/donations |
| 22:47.10 | sharky1 | gnarface, i see, thanks i will look for a way from debian.org |
| 22:47.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | debconf.org is legit |
| 22:47.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | iirc to donate money to debian you dontate to spi and specify the money should go to debian |
| 22:47.35 | gnarface | sharky1: i'd trust the bot's urls above others. |
| 22:47.54 | sharky1 | gnarface, nice thanks, i see what you mean |
| 22:47.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | to donate to *debconf* you look at debconf.org, but iirc 12 is over |
| 22:48.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: debconf |
| 22:48.05 | dpkg | [debconf] Debian's configuration management system for packages, giving a single interface for asking and storing configuration-related settings. http://wiki.debian.org/debconf http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html . Not to be confused with the yearly Debian Conference (DebConf): http://wiki.debian.org/DebConf https://www.debconf.org/ |
| 22:48.25 | tremon | sharky1: those donations go to SPI or FFIS (the european counterpart). Whether those donations go towards "the debian project" depends on what you're asking for. I'd expect those donations to be reserved for debconf expenditures |
| 22:49.39 | sharky1 | tremo, i see, i'd like my money to go directly to the project, to developers or so |
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| 22:50.14 | tremon | sharky1: then use the generic donation information in the dpkg factoid given earlier |
| 22:50.25 | Chubbz | Anyone have an idea why grub2 will no longer boot from my USB drive. I've got a sata hdd that has my /boot partition and my primary OS is on the thumbdrive. It worked fine until I upgraded grub from apt-get. Ive tried adding a rootdelay with no luck. |
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| 22:50.35 | sharky1 | tremo, i will do that, reading it already |
| 22:50.46 | sharky1 | thank you all |
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| 22:51.06 | Hagbard__ | hi |
| 22:51.09 | Hagbard__ | how are u |
| 22:51.10 | Hagbard__ | ? |
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| 22:54.28 | abrotman | analyzer: your backup? |
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| 23:00.26 | analyzer | abrotman, sorry, what? |
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| 23:00.59 | abrotman | ignore me |
| 23:01.44 | robokop | /ignore abrotman |
| 23:02.56 | LordDeath | ok, munin works, basic auth with htaccess and htpasswd works but apache is still giving this warning... |
| 23:03.57 | bzed | LordDeath: I think munin installs its own config in /etc/apache2/conf.d |
| 23:04.16 | bzed | LordDeath: which defines that alias before your sites-* stuff is being read |
| 23:04.28 | LordDeath | you are right! |
| 23:05.04 | LordDeath | thx bzed! |
| 23:05.09 | bzed | you are welcome |
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| 23:12.50 | EdePopede | good morning |
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| 23:14.13 | EdePopede | while using usb sticks, /dev/by-id/* are not produced anymore. had a runlevel change after last time using a stick. could this be a reason? |
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| 23:17.21 | LordDeath | now the apache2 warning is gone, munin works I and can access it only via authentication :-) |
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