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| 00:00.28 | hetOrakel | okay, i learned my lesson, but everyone goes for the RRR (repartition-reformat-reinstall)???? |
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| 00:01.37 | gnarface | hetOrakel: there are other more pedantic, forensic options if you are looking to prosecute for a crime... but if you are not then its always cheaper and easier by far to just format/reinstall (aka "nuke the site from orbit... its the only way to be sure") |
| 00:02.19 | syslq__ | is there some debian casual talk? |
| 00:02.24 | syslq__ | irc I mean |
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| 00:04.00 | kevlarman | syslq__: #debian-offtopic |
| 00:04.06 | syslq__ | kevlarman: thanks |
| 00:04.12 | kevlarman | syslq__: it's in the /topic |
| 00:04.15 | hetOrakel | ok, thank you all i'm gonna try to get some sleep |
| 00:04.38 | syslq__ | kevlarman: don't see entire topic it's too long |
| 00:04.45 | kevlarman | syslq__: /topic |
| 00:05.01 | syslq__ | kevlarman: yes but how am I to know it's in topic if I dont see the topic :) |
| 00:05.26 | gnarface | syslq_: you can see the topic at any time in (i think) any irc client by just typing /topic |
| 00:05.32 | gnarface | syslq__: ^^^ |
| 00:05.35 | kevlarman | syslq__: because that particular peice of information is almost always in the topic |
| 00:05.44 | syslq__ | gnarface: I know :) |
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| 00:06.41 | syslq__ | kevlarman: sure, but you'd loose tanks I gave you if I checked topic first, besides using debian does not automatically make me intelligent enough to presume things |
| 00:07.21 | gnarface | syslq__: the part you missed out on is that using debian may not make you smarter but using #debian will |
| 00:07.46 | syslq__ | gnarface: dobut it, it mostly just works, but I'm on stable |
| 00:07.56 | syslq__ | doubt even |
| 00:08.04 | gnarface | syslq__: ok; to put too fine a point on it - we just *made* you smarter. you're welcome |
| 00:08.59 | syslq__ | gnarface: not really, I just hold one more info, I don't think that counts as smarter, but yeah |
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| 00:09.18 | gnarface | syslq__: its a minor semantic point. take it however it makes you comfortable |
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| 00:09.53 | syslq__ | gnarface: heh, you like perl I see :) |
| 00:10.57 | gnarface | syslq__: i do but that was actually from my love of Frank Zappa, fyi: nformation is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best… |
| 00:12.08 | syslq__ | gnarface: title?, I'd like to hear it |
| 00:12.11 | gnarface | woops there was supposed to be an "I" before nformation (for you non-english speakers) |
| 00:12.41 | gnarface | syslq__: lyrics to the song Packard Goose on the album Joe's Garage: Act III |
| 00:13.06 | syslq__ | Thanks |
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| 00:13.25 | gnarface | syslq__: actually all of Joe's Garage is fucking ground breaking and mind-blowing (maybe not so much as Hot Rats but way more listenable and rhythmic/melodical ) |
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| 00:13.45 | gnarface | syslq__: but that's FAAAR off topic. we're here to discuss debian |
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| 00:17.08 | gnarface | hears a quiet disturbance in the force as 1175 people torrent "Joe's Garage" (just as Zappa would have wanted it) |
| 00:18.03 | syslq__ | gnarface: speaking of which, I'm listening to this and I can not decide is it genious or trash, bought his bass player coffe once but never heard him play |
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| 00:19.10 | gnarface | syslq__: the part you're missing is its genius purposefully creating genius trash (he was in a hostile relationship with his record producer at the time.. if you want to see it get worse check out Låther) |
| 00:19.22 | rawburtW | so since Sun/Oracle Java is no longer a part of Wheezy, how can I get it installed without compiling? |
| 00:19.27 | rawburtW | could I use Ubuntu's packages? |
| 00:19.45 | gnarface | rawburtW: not advised |
| 00:20.21 | rawburtW | I just need it for Juniper Network Connect |
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| 00:21.45 | syslq__ | rawburtW: don't use ubuntu packages |
| 00:21.47 | gnarface | syslq__: er, actually spelled Läther i mean |
| 00:22.24 | syslq__ | gnarface: mhm :), I think I like what I hear |
| 00:23.00 | rawburtW | http://paragasu.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/install-sun-java6-jdk-in-debian-wheezy/ |
| 00:23.43 | syslq__ | rawburtW: openJDK actually works fine for the most part |
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| 00:27.45 | himmelstrutz | hi. im trying out mpd/mpc. since im a newbie: is there any common sense command in 'mpc' to shuffle the whole music collection? |
| 00:27.45 | rawburtW | I can't find any posts saying it works with Juniper Network Connect, it didn't work for me in the past, and I can find a ton of posts about how it doesn't work with OpenJDK :\ |
| 00:28.04 | dondelelcaro | himmelstrutz: man mpc; read about shuffle |
| 00:28.09 | squarepeg | hello |
| 00:28.31 | squarepeg | is there a way I can convert an ubuntu installation to debian by switching repos? |
| 00:28.37 | dondelelcaro | squarepeg: not really |
| 00:28.47 | dvs | squarepeg: no |
| 00:28.56 | kevlarman | squarepeg: your name is a pretty good description of what you're trying to attempt |
| 00:29.22 | himmelstrutz | dondelelcaro, "Shuffles all songs on the playlist" -- do I need to make playlist to shuffle the whole music collection? |
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| 00:30.25 | squarepeg | welp... just have to do it the conventional way |
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| 00:31.09 | dondelelcaro | himmelstrutz: yerp |
| 00:31.18 | dondelelcaro | himmelstrutz: but you can easily make a playlist of the entire music collection |
| 00:31.35 | dondelelcaro | himmelstrutz: for example, to add everything, do mpc ls|mpc add; |
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| 00:32.35 | himmelstrutz | dondelelcaro, my oh my, doesn't seem to be an easy way of doing this. but ok,,, |
| 00:33.47 | himmelstrutz | dondelelcaro, or actually, it seem to be pretty easy, thanks. im tired. |
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| 01:01.56 | edju | When I run apt-get update, a bunch of "Translations" are downloaded. I have locale set to en_US.UTF-8, and no other. Is there a way to prevent this? |
| 01:03.47 | daemonkeeper | en_US is a language, too. |
| 01:05.11 | edju | daemonkeeper, I know. What I mean is why does update bring down all the ru, es, ro etc. |
| 01:06.18 | daemonkeeper | You have probably enabled them as locales. |
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| 01:07.19 | edju | Not that I know of - dpkg -reconfigure locales shows only en. |
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| 01:12.03 | ra1ndr0p | Hi, whats the difference between downloading debian standard and debian gnome? |
| 01:12.34 | dondelelcaro | ra1ndr0p: there's no real difference, besides the set of packages that are on the installation disks |
| 01:13.03 | ra1ndr0p | so im asuming gnome has more packages sence its a 1GB download |
| 01:13.51 | ra1ndr0p | Just to be clear, i will have Gnome 2 on debian standard? (Im switching from ubuntu, [ (-_-) unity ] |
| 01:13.54 | WriTEonlY | Ok, been working on this problem for quite a while, and wanted to get a fresh view if possible -- I have a NAS that is running debian squeeze. Somehow the sshd daemon is not operating any longer, and the only access i have to this machine is via Samba. I have added /usr/sbin/sshd to my rc.local and set my LogLevel of sshd to DEBUG, and yet my last log for sshd in AUTH is from the shutdown |
| 01:13.54 | WriTEonlY | signal 15 when i last rebooted it. The challenge is I need to get ssh or telnet working without using the CLI, all I have access to is the filesystem via Windows SAMBA |
| 01:15.24 | dvs | ra1ndr0p: Yes, Debian 6 uses GNOME 2 but Debian 7 will use GNOME 3 |
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| 01:16.51 | ra1ndr0p | I hope Gnome 3 on debain will look alot better than it currently does because it is UGLY |
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| 01:17.55 | boudiccas | ra1ndr0p; what is debain please? |
| 01:18.16 | ra1ndr0p | sorry debian |
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| 01:18.46 | dvs | is glad it's not "McBain" |
| 01:19.41 | ra1ndr0p | I apologize for any anoyance, just confirming im downloading the correct version. If i download Debain Standard i386 Standard i WILL get gnome 2 |
| 01:20.00 | boudiccas | dvs; that joke doesn't travel, it means nothing here in the UK |
| 01:20.26 | dvs | boudiccas: You don't have The Simpsons over there? |
| 01:21.05 | boudiccas | ra1ndr0p; if you're getting 6.0.4 then its the current uptodate version of DEBIAN |
| 01:21.23 | boudiccas | dvs; some do, the sensible ones dont :) |
| 01:21.30 | dvs | heh |
| 01:21.57 | sharpieK | how come running "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms" still installs a 195.36 driver? |
| 01:22.04 | sharpieK | when this page: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 01:22.08 | sharpieK | says 280.13 |
| 01:23.02 | ra1ndr0p | ty |
| 01:23.34 | boudiccas | ra1ndr0p; yw |
| 01:24.41 | ra1ndr0p | btw, what GUI does debain standard have? |
| 01:24.58 | dvs | ra1ndr0p: none |
| 01:25.12 | boudiccas | gnome bu default, if you're talking about debian |
| 01:25.23 | boudiccas | by |
| 01:25.30 | ra1ndr0p | dvs says none and you say gnome 0_0 |
| 01:25.43 | boudiccas | ah, but i'm talking about debian |
| 01:25.59 | boudiccas | he's probably talking about 'debain' |
| 01:26.06 | dvs | ... |
| 01:26.08 | ra1ndr0p | Ugg, i keep spelling it wrong |
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| 01:26.28 | Mr_Queue | dear god anyone following debian-user? Is 21k questions long gone? |
| 01:26.59 | Mr_Queue | Dude posted to the list every paragraph of the manual... geeeeze. |
| 01:27.46 | ra1ndr0p | why are there only torrent images of 6.0.3? |
| 01:27.50 | kingsley | What's a good IRC channel for people interested in domain name registrars? |
| 01:28.53 | ra1ndr0p | well there are some of 6.0.4 but they are all CD-1, CD-2, CD-3 0_0 witch one to download |
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| 01:29.15 | dondelelcaro | ra1ndr0p: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/amd64/bt-cd/ FE. |
| 01:29.27 | dvs | ra1ndr0p: All you need is the first one if you have an Internet connection |
| 01:30.05 | dvs | and a wired connection |
| 01:30.07 | Mr_Queue | ^ +1 |
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| 01:31.54 | tensorpudding | man, ice beast is crummy |
| 01:31.57 | tensorpudding | sigh |
| 01:32.00 | ra1ndr0p | i dont have an internet connection on it, it will be wireless |
| 01:32.18 | tensorpudding | more like, this danged touchpad is crummy, keeping on clicking when i hit my thumb on it on accident |
| 01:32.28 | tensorpudding | and switching chat windows |
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| 01:34.11 | tensorpudding | is there any way to configure touchpads to filter out those danged things like other operating systems can? |
| 01:35.30 | dondelelcaro | tensorpudding: depends on the touchpad, but many of them have palm detection |
| 01:35.48 | tensorpudding | i assume that would be part of the driver |
| 01:35.57 | dondelelcaro | tensorpudding: and you can also configure them not to detect clicks within a certain period of typing |
| 01:36.09 | dondelelcaro | tensorpudding: it's a configurable setting of the driver |
| 01:36.23 | tensorpudding | sounds like an area linux could improve |
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| 01:36.52 | dondelelcaro | tensorpudding: uh... it's a configurable setting in many of the touchpads; configure it. |
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| 01:37.54 | tensorpudding | i see the configuration, it claims to have disabled touchpad while typing, that's a baldfaced lie |
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| 01:38.37 | tensorpudding | i guess it's possible that this touchpad does not support it |
| 01:38.39 | dondelelcaro | tensorpudding: so enable it or change the default delay |
| 01:38.56 | dondelelcaro | tensorpudding: or use one of the touchpad specific configuration programs |
| 01:39.48 | tensorpudding | i don't want to enable it, i want it to actually do what it says that it's doing right now |
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| 01:40.00 | tensorpudding | i don't see an option to configure a delay |
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| 01:40.28 | tensorpudding | maybe it's just a fault of hardware |
| 01:40.39 | tensorpudding | i haven't tested it in windows 7, the native os, to compare |
| 01:41.35 | tensorpudding | sane defaults beat custom configuration |
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| 01:41.49 | farkbarn | hola |
| 01:41.55 | farkbarn | alguien habla español? |
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| 01:42.11 | pdtpatr1ck | Anyone know whether the nscd bug has been fixed in Debian? |
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| 01:43.17 | boudiccas | !es |
| 01:43.17 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 01:44.23 | tensorpudding | it just makes me dislike dell all the more, i look forward to their going out of business |
| 01:46.27 | dvs | fat chance |
| 01:46.37 | tensorpudding | nah, i think the odds are good |
| 01:46.44 | tensorpudding | they're trying to rebrand as an IT company |
| 01:46.52 | dvs | ??? |
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| 01:46.55 | tensorpudding | due to the fact that PCs are declining |
| 01:47.50 | tensorpudding | well, maybe not entirely due to that fact |
| 01:48.00 | tensorpudding | PC margins have never been good |
| 01:48.18 | dvs | true |
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| 01:50.56 | cardamon | tensorpudding: Not as good as laptops |
| 01:51.07 | tensorpudding | i counted laptops in that |
| 01:51.14 | cardamon | PC sales would go way up if people started lugging them back and forth to work. |
| 01:51.25 | cardamon | And coffee shops. |
| 01:51.55 | tensorpudding | tablets are going to usurp an even bigger percentage of that market, probably to detriment of laptops |
| 01:52.07 | tensorpudding | even bigger than they have so far, i mean |
| 01:52.12 | cardamon | Maybe there's a diet/excercise plan to be marketed there. "Mobile Workstation-Bo" |
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| 01:54.41 | sharpieK | anyone know where I can get the image file to install debian with kernel 3.2? |
| 01:55.13 | dvs | !kmuto |
| 01:55.13 | dpkg | Unofficial images for installing Debian Squeeze/6.0 using a later kernel (currently Linux 2.6.39) are available from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (images are on the CD mirrors). To supply additional firmware, ask me about <installer firmware>. For a USB install, use the lenny instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/i386/ch04s03 |
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| 01:57.03 | Darkelfjuggalo | Is there a way for me to get a netinstal file for Etch or Lenny versions of Debian? I ask becuase when attempting to install Squeeze directly, the GRUB bootloader fails to install |
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| 01:58.19 | sharpieK | so I don't see a 3.2 kernel squeeze here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 01:59.08 | cardamon | tensorpudding: I don't really see it that way. The "Post-PC" term currently getting press is just marketing. Tablets will get more and more ubiquitous, of course. The real shift will come when "cloud" computing is more mature and the majority of the user base resembles the classic server/thin-client model. But that'll require 2 things: A more robust and everpresent wireless network, and a teleco industry agreement with its consumerbas |
| 01:59.23 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: i know you want an answer for the question you asked but i'm sorry i'm going to reply with questions instead: for starters 1) did you try lilo 2) can you paste us an error about why grub failed 3) is there a reason why you didn't upgrade from lenny to squeeze instead of a fresh install? |
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| 01:59.54 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: i'll probably think of more questions but it would do you the most good to answer those first, as that would allow others to help you besides me |
| 02:00.51 | cardamon | Darkelfjuggalo: What gnarface said, plus what makes you think an old version would help? AFAIK, older versions of Grub and Debian don't have some quasi magical property of working where others fail. |
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| 02:01.20 | Darkelfjuggalo | 1. Yes i tried lilo, lilo would not boot properly. 2. the error happened on a different computer their is currently no working Operating system on it. 3. I was fresh installing to overwrite windox XP |
| 02:02.09 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: ok no problem that's actually hugely helpful now we can actually help you |
| 02:02.22 | Darkelfjuggalo | Cardamon: I am simply trying all of my options considering no one had an answer as to why the netinstall simply told me it could not install the GRUB |
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| 02:02.36 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: chances are the fresh squeeze install should have worked and the reason it didn't is what we need to debug now. tell us how it failed |
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| 02:02.43 | cardamon | Darkelfjuggalo: Define "not boot properly" |
| 02:03.09 | cardamon | Black screen? Error message? Boots the image instead? |
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| 02:03.23 | cardamon | Explodes? |
| 02:03.26 | Darkelfjuggalo | I attempted to Load using the LILO bootloader and despite telling it to load from the formatted harddrive it was trying to load from CD |
| 02:04.05 | cardamon | hasn't messed with LILO in ten years. |
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| 02:04.28 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: go back to the part about why squeeze with grub failed. we want specifics about that... what you described as failing has basically(*) worked for all of us |
| 02:04.56 | gnarface | (*) ancient hardware before p4 era stuff may need kernel options |
| 02:04.59 | Darkelfjuggalo | gnarface: I plugged in my USB with the netinstall file, i worked through everything up to the grub installer, i confirmed to install it and it just told me that the instal failed in under 5 seconds |
| 02:04.59 | mint | hey all i have an issue i need help with... i used pendrive to create a live usb and when i go to run install mint it does nothing. so i went in and looked at /usr/bin and found live-installer. right clicked and hit run as admin. well there is a password and i didnt set one... any suggestions? |
| 02:05.36 | cardamon | mint: Then go ask Linux Mint. |
| 02:06.32 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: ok that narrows it down but we need raw error text or basically you're still just asking us to shoot in the dark. at that point i can tell you sunspots or the fact your sister is a witch and should be burned at the stake are just as valid solutions as a kernel patch |
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| 02:07.02 | cardamon | You don't ask the postman for help with your plumbing. |
| 02:07.58 | Darkelfjuggalo | it directly said 'The 'Grub-installer' failed to install FATAL ERROR' |
| 02:08.00 | valdezpa09 | cardamon: well i figured it would be worth a shot to see if any of you knew... |
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| 02:08.23 | Darkelfjuggalo | there was no reason given or explanation of anykind |
| 02:08.28 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: can you pastebin the entire error output for us? one line makes it a bit hard |
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| 02:09.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | Fatal Error was a seperate line, this was 2 days ago no one in the room could fix it then |
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| 02:10.33 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: the unspoken context is that you broke something and aren't admitting it. perhaps you can't admit it to yourself |
| 02:11.22 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: Debian lays all Kings and Beggars equal |
| 02:11.24 | Darkelfjuggalo | I did as i was instructed by the installer. |
| 02:11.56 | Darkelfjuggalo | one person suggested I use offline disk, but i can't make any... |
| 02:11.59 | cardamon | do you still have the image? try booting to it and run the verifier from the menu in expert installer. If that doesn't check out, there's your issue. |
| 02:12.19 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: if you did then the extraneous information is your rare/unique hardware... which we'd also love to have more details about, since this is an install/boot issue. will you provide us that information? |
| 02:12.38 | cardamon | guesses it's just a md5 checksum |
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| 02:13.03 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: the debian version you're attempting to use is relevant as well. did you say this was squeeze? |
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| 02:13.19 | Darkelfjuggalo | all i know about the computer is it is an 2006 Emanchine D3315 using DDR1 memory |
| 02:13.45 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: make & model # please |
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| 02:14.26 | Darkelfjuggalo | it was squeeze that failed i got the iso installer direct from debian.org |
| 02:14.43 | cardamon | Darkelfjuggalo: gnarface wants you to reproduce the error and return to us with the relevant information. It's good advice. Give it a try. Shouldn't even have to reformat if the only issue is your grub install. |
| 02:15.17 | gnarface | http://www.google.com/search?q=Emanchine+D3315&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a#hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=Emanchine+D3315+debian&oq=Emanchine+D3315+debian&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=4356l5116l1l5255l6l6l0l0l0l0l146l752l0.6l6l0&gs_l=serp.3...4356l5116l1l5255l6l6l0l0l0l0l146l752l0j6l6l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=b069f4a |
| 02:15.17 | gnarface | 440ee70e1&biw=1123&bih=1050 |
| 02:15.28 | gnarface | i would like all of you to note the first entry on that search result |
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| 02:16.12 | gnarface | the search i used should also be evident on that page - and relevant |
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| 02:16.58 | dvs | http://support.gateway.com/emachines/PC/eMac/D3000/6070sp3.shtml |
| 02:17.04 | cardamon | gnarface: noted. |
| 02:17.12 | Darkelfjuggalo | i got the label in front of me with the specs. |
| 02:17.59 | Darkelfjuggalo | would the iso for the wrong arch have had an issue before the boot loader? |
| 02:19.02 | cardamon | Which arch did you get? |
| 02:19.03 | gnarface | dvs: i don't see a motherboard chipset - this is a problem |
| 02:19.10 | dvs | ah |
| 02:19.46 | Darkelfjuggalo | I was told it was an i386 processor, but the processor on the label says AMD Sempron... is that an i386 or an AMD arch? |
| 02:19.54 | Dan39 | hi guys :) im compiling my own curl/libcurl, and want to use checkinstall to properly install it. it all seems to work, but how do i properly put in curl and libcurl3 into the "provides" part so that other packages that depend on libcurl3 are ok with the package i installed |
| 02:19.58 | cardamon | The Sempron 3000 is a 32 bit chip. If you're not using the x86 arch, you're using the wrong one. |
| 02:20.06 | cardamon | AMD isn't an arch. |
| 02:20.11 | cardamon | It's a company. |
| 02:20.11 | Dan39 | i go to install something that wants libcurl3, and apt-get wants to REMOVE my package |
| 02:20.22 | cardamon | amd64 is the 64-bit arch. |
| 02:20.34 | Dan39 | maybe i have to put in the version in provides field? i was just putting "curl, libcurl3" |
| 02:20.43 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok so i need x64... |
| 02:20.44 | cardamon | There is...while maybe not the whole problem, a big one if you used the amd64 arch Image. |
| 02:20.47 | gnarface | Darkelfjuggalo: *ALL* AMD chipos are i386 compatible. *SOME* of them are also amd64 compatible but those are all also i386 compatible. this is NOT likely to be the cause of your problem |
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| 02:22.25 | cardamon | gnarface: Grab an x86/i386 image, make new boot disk, and repeat the process. Get the error. Screenshot if you can. |
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| 02:23.14 | jeremiah_gatong | hello I want to delete all directory on my current directory I accidentaly misstype the corrent bash command |
| 02:23.16 | jeremiah_gatong | I typed |
| 02:23.20 | jeremiah_gatong | "mv *" |
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| 02:24.08 | jeremiah_gatong | now there are no directories when I type "ls" |
| 02:24.16 | jeremiah_gatong | My question is |
| 02:24.30 | jeremiah_gatong | where does all the directories have been moved? |
| 02:24.31 | dvs | !enter |
| 02:24.32 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 02:24.33 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: they were moved into the last directory listed, so there should be at least one directory there |
| 02:24.54 | jeremiah_gatong | uhm.... |
| 02:25.01 | Darkelfjuggalo | is there much chance the amount of RAM is too low? this has 256MB |
| 02:25.07 | jeremiah_gatong | my current directory is.. |
| 02:25.29 | jeremiah_gatong | "/mnt/disk1/share/files |
| 02:25.33 | jeremiah_gatong | where it does goes ? |
| 02:25.45 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: please stop hitting enter. Type out your entire answer and then once you've put everything you need to say on the line, hit enter. |
| 02:26.02 | jeremiah_gatong | OK, gotcha |
| 02:26.16 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: what does pwd; ls -l; output? what was the command that you executed? what was the working directory then? |
| 02:26.38 | jeremiah_gatong | none |
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| 02:26.55 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: what does ls -al; output? |
| 02:27.44 | gnarface | cardamon: uh... normally sure but my hoochie-mama just showed up so i'm gonna go get (more) drunk with her and watch some tv. sorry you're on your own |
| 02:27.56 | jeremiah_gatong | the output is here: http://paste2.org/p/1934183 |
| 02:28.00 | Darkelfjuggalo | Was the question bout RAM too stupid or missed? |
| 02:28.14 | jeremiah_gatong | @Darkelfjuggalo, Its good enough |
| 02:28.23 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok |
| 02:28.32 | dvs | Darkelfjuggalo: I would try to run GNOME with it. |
| 02:29.01 | dvs | would not |
| 02:29.08 | Darkelfjuggalo | GNOME is normally the default I get... |
| 02:29.09 | dvs | sorry |
| 02:29.34 | jeremiah_gatong | please advise, I want to free up my HD, :( |
| 02:29.36 | Darkelfjuggalo | But I'm still not getting to the root of my problem |
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| 02:32.59 | Mr_Queue | I've not been following much too closely, but I have been keeping an eye on this.. http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html |
| 02:33.28 | Dan39 | :| |
| 02:33.41 | Dan39 | nobody here uses checkinstall? lol |
| 02:33.59 | Mr_Queue | I really hope 3.0 will not be the default in Debian 7, and if so, I really really really hope, we can live long on gnome 2.X |
| 02:34.08 | Mr_Queue | Dan39: why? |
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| 02:34.25 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: not really; it's pretty easy to just create a Debian package |
| 02:34.32 | dondelelcaro | (and most everthing you'd use is already packaged anyway) |
| 02:34.33 | Dan39 | >_< |
| 02:34.34 | Mr_Queue | ^^ |
| 02:34.45 | Mr_Queue | Or just pin what you need from testing etc. |
| 02:35.08 | Dan39 | maybe i should learn to create debian packages my self |
| 02:35.20 | dondelelcaro | !tell Dan39 -about nm guide |
| 02:35.31 | Mr_Queue | checkinstall is something some Cent dev must have wrote while out of work scraping for money doing side jobs. |
| 02:35.32 | Dan39 | o jeez |
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| 02:35.34 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: the bit dpkg just told you has some background information on how to do it |
| 02:35.42 | Darkelfjuggalo | so are there any other suggestions to how I can fix this? |
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| 02:35.59 | Dan39 | im compiling curl with c-ares is what i am doing |
| 02:36.30 | Dan39 | it allows for asynchronous dns lookups, so when a program using curl doesnt hang when DNS server is down |
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| 02:37.07 | Mr_Queue | I can dig that. |
| 02:37.26 | Dan39 | ive got a program that was hanging for minutes at a time, was really annoying me |
| 02:37.33 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: it'll still have to hang while waiting for the DNS server to return or timeout |
| 02:37.39 | Mr_Queue | If it's just one, fuckit, just make install it and stay on top of it. |
| 02:37.47 | Dan39 | but it doesnt cause the program to completely freeze |
| 02:38.05 | jeremiah_gatong | I misstype a bash command for delete, I typed "mv *" now all my directories are moved to a location somewhere, where is it? |
| 02:38.12 | Dan39 | with regular curl without c-ares, the program freezes for like 3 minutes until it times our or whatever |
| 02:38.17 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: again, it's in the last directory of that directory. |
| 02:38.38 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: but since there's nothing there, you've either changed directories, or you aren't telling us something |
| 02:38.45 | Dan39 | most people probably dont care since its rare that a site has dns server go down haha |
| 02:39.00 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: the timeout should be shorter, and normally you'd deal with that with a local caching dns server too |
| 02:39.00 | Mr_Queue | jeremiah_gatong: hahaha. |
| 02:39.33 | jeremiah_gatong | @dodelelcaro "/mnt/disk1/share/files, when I do ls, there are no items |
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| 02:40.31 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: if you don't believe me, mkdir -p tmp/temp{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8}; cd tmp; mv *; ls -l; ls -l temp8; rmdir temp8/*; cd ..; rmdir -p tmp/temp8; |
| 02:40.40 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: so it's there somewhere. |
| 02:41.02 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: if you can't find it, find /mnt/ -type f -iname '*name of some file you moved*'; |
| 02:41.10 | Mr_Queue | ^^^^^ |
| 02:41.14 | Mr_Queue | Do that |
| 02:41.21 | jeremiah_gatong | OK, I will |
| 02:41.26 | Mr_Queue | ls -hartl |
| 02:41.56 | Mr_Queue | typos as root are a mofucker |
| 02:42.46 | Mr_Queue | my worst ever was hooking up /etc with chmod -R 600 /etc /shorewall/ |
| 02:42.56 | Mr_Queue | goodbye |
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| 02:44.39 | Mr_Queue | It tooke like 0.003 seconds and everything was dead... I knew it too, was like awe shit. That was stupid... Way to go white space.. Thank god for backups. |
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| 02:51.09 | Dan39 | well anyways, forget that i used checkinstall, the package is installed and it says it "Provides: curl, libcurl3", but when i try to install something that requires libcurl3, apt-get wants to remove the package |
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| 02:53.16 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: because it can't provide libcurl3, it has to be called libcurl3. It's not possible for a Provides to satisfy a versioned dependency |
| 02:53.26 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: if you want to have a different version of curl, you need to rebuild the curl package |
| 02:53.38 | Dan39 | :| |
| 02:53.57 | Dan39 | sounds like PITA since its split up into curl and libcurl |
| 02:54.04 | Dan39 | well |
| 02:54.16 | Dan39 | i dont know how debian packages are made |
| 02:54.18 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: the curl source package builds curl, libcurl, etc. |
| 02:54.22 | Dan39 | on my other distro, it would be really easy :P |
| 02:54.27 | Dan39 | o does it haha |
| 02:54.32 | Mr_Queue | Use aptitude and figure out 'why'... aptitude why <package> |
| 02:54.42 | dondelelcaro | Mr_Queue: that has nothing to do with it |
| 02:54.55 | Mr_Queue | Get thought your lists and figure out what is busted along the path. |
| 02:55.13 | Mr_Queue | To hell is has nothing to do with it... |
| 02:55.38 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: it actually is pretty easy; apt-get source curl; apt-get builddep curl; make the changes you need, bump the version, then fakeroot debian/rules clean binary; to build the package. |
| 02:55.43 | Mr_Queue | You can figure out easily what you broke along they way. |
| 02:55.44 | optraz | is there an existing application to quickly read from the serial communication port? |
| 02:55.52 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: making them from scratch is slightly more complicated |
| 02:55.59 | Mr_Queue | ^^ |
| 02:56.02 | dondelelcaro | optraz: cat /dev/ttyS0 |
| 02:56.27 | dondelelcaro | optraz: but you probably want something more useful, like screen /dev/ttyS0 or similar. |
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| 02:57.04 | Dan39 | awsome thanks :) ive built packages from source on uh *cough*archlinux*cough* and that is pretty easy |
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| 02:57.53 | optraz | dondelelcaro: screen? isn't screen create another shell which is detachable? |
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| 02:58.31 | dondelelcaro | optraz: amoung other things, yes. man screen. |
| 02:58.31 | Dan39 | screen is multiplexer that is detachable |
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| 02:59.13 | Dan39 | detachable, and dont forget multi-attachable, <3 screen -x |
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| 02:59.28 | optraz | dondelelcaro: does not make any sense |
| 03:00.14 | fragrant | Hi, What's the command to remove unnecessary package? |
| 03:00.26 | optraz | apt-get remove <package> |
| 03:00.28 | optraz | fragrant: ^^ |
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| 03:00.54 | dondelelcaro | optraz: what doesn't make sense? the command I gave you uses the serial terminal part of screen to connect to a serial terminal |
| 03:01.04 | fragrant | Not a single package, but orphan packages those are installed as dependencies |
| 03:01.21 | fragrant | And removing their unnecessary configuration. |
| 03:01.28 | dondelelcaro | fragrant: if a package is automatically installed and not required anymore, it'll be removed automatically. |
| 03:01.36 | gavinozzarin | its liek that |
| 03:01.42 | gavinozzarin | as a mtter o fact |
| 03:01.49 | gavinozzarin | I never hesitate to put a niger on his back |
| 03:01.53 | gavinozzarin | SNOOP DOG |
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| 03:03.12 | Dan39 | wow what was that guys problem o_O |
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| 03:03.52 | Dan39 | so why cant provides satisfy a versioned dependency :'( |
| 03:04.01 | dondelelcaro | Dan39: because that's how it works. |
| 03:04.01 | optraz | dondelelcaro: i use screen in the server side to run application and detach from it. right now my question was what application that can read from serial communication port... wasn't expecting screen that can do that. |
| 03:04.15 | dondelelcaro | optraz: well, it can... and so can cat. |
| 03:04.54 | dondelelcaro | optraz: though you might get slightly more useful answers if you were more specific than "read from serial port" |
| 03:05.37 | optraz | dondelelcaro: i just want to check is there any input from the serial commm, that's it |
| 03:05.43 | optraz | i think cat is fine :) thanks dondelelcaro |
| 03:06.41 | dondelelcaro | yeah, cat'll do that. |
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| 03:10.39 | blumenkraft | I'm looking for a wat to I'm looking for a way to recursively scan directories, find RAR files, and recompress into 7z files. Is there a program or existing script that does this that anyone knows about? |
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| 03:11.58 | dondelelcaro | blumenkraft: you'd probably have to write one yourself, but it's about 4 lines of shell. |
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| 03:13.25 | jeremiah_gatong | dondelelcaro: when I execute "mv *", all of my directories vanish, buy 1 remain, I guess 7 in my 8 redictories goes to the last directory not moved |
| 03:14.55 | dondelelcaro | jeremiah_gatong: yes, if the last argument is a directory, that's where the others all went. |
| 03:16.12 | jeremiah_gatong | mv has only 1 argument, the asterist |
| 03:18.41 | jeremiah_gatong | Thank you all! |
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| 03:22.26 | cali | hello, I'm having trouble compiling wine ./configure says "FreeType 32-bit development files not found." but packages are well installed. |
| 03:22.41 | somiaj | cali: are you on amd64? |
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| 03:25.13 | cali | somiaj, yes |
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| 03:26.50 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok I'm going to try again with the install, i installed the 2 1GB RAM upgrades I got today... but my USB drive doesn't have the ISO no more i plugged it in to look at the file and this computer made me reformat it |
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| 03:27.59 | homecable | how would u part a 1tb disk for a muiti user system ? |
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| 03:31.13 | somiaj | cali: do you have ia32-libs-dev installed? |
| 03:31.52 | cali | somiaj, yes |
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| 03:34.14 | somiaj | there are some additional lib32foo-dev, but I didn't see any freetype one. |
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| 03:35.06 | cali | somiaj, yup :( |
| 03:37.39 | somiaj | well I don't have any specal lib installed and I seem to see the freetype libs just fine when I compild wine |
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| 03:40.03 | cali | somiaj, what debian? |
| 03:40.27 | somiaj | On sid, but nevefr had touble on squeeze. Have you tried apt-get build-dep wine |
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| 03:45.30 | cali | somiaj, |
| 03:45.31 | cali | yeah |
| 03:45.34 | cali | it says "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list" |
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| 03:46.01 | cali | somiaj, but I got the source though |
| 03:46.16 | cali | i mean, not commented in my sources.list |
| 03:46.39 | somiaj | yea add a deb-src line |
| 03:47.02 | somiaj | (That will just make sure there aren't any pckages missing) you don't need to get the wine source that way, just a way to get all the development libs |
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| 03:49.18 | cali | somiaj, it has installed some stuff but I'm not sure it is going to help. |
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| 03:49.30 | cali | somiaj, oh shit, it did I think xD |
| 03:49.38 | cali | yeah, works now xD |
| 03:49.39 | somiaj | (: |
| 03:49.44 | cali | somiaj, thank you dude |
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| 03:58.34 | nowhereFast | if i wanted to copy all the contents of one directory to another i use cp -r |
| 03:58.55 | nowhereFast | but once the copy is done, the copied files arenopt executable |
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| 03:59.07 | nowhereFast | how can i fix this? |
| 03:59.47 | tristezo2k | nowhereFast: use cp -ar to preserve perms |
| 03:59.50 | edju | When I run apt-get update, a bunch of "Translations" are downloaded. I have locale set to en_US.UTF-8, and no other. Is there a way to prevent these downloads? |
| 04:00.36 | tristezo2k | edju: update does not actually downloads the updates, but get´s the index. |
| 04:00.52 | tristezo2k | There might be some translation repositories in sources.list |
| 04:01.06 | tristezo2k | you might want to remove, but they shouldn´t hurt. |
| 04:01.34 | somiaj | nowhereFast: cp -a, or rsync -a |
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| 04:03.14 | edju | tristezo2k, Yes, it does get the index, but it also gets, e.g., Translation-es 382KB. |
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| 04:04.01 | nowhereFast | tries this |
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| 04:06.42 | Some_Person | Is there a quick way I can check from a Terminal if a USB port is 1.1 or 2.0? |
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| 04:06.54 | Some_Person | Or, perhaps, if a device is plugged into a 1.1 or 2.0 port? |
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| 04:07.20 | nowhereFast | it still does not work |
| 04:07.34 | nowhereFast | should i try with rsync? |
| 04:07.47 | tristezo2k | rsync -av /source /dest |
| 04:07.54 | nowhereFast | what i have done is added a disk to this system |
| 04:07.55 | tristezo2k | but it should work with cp -a |
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| 04:08.04 | nowhereFast | and the dorectory i am trying to copy has a service in it |
| 04:08.18 | tristezo2k | service? |
| 04:08.22 | nowhereFast | yes |
| 04:08.30 | nowhereFast | a mail service called zimbra |
| 04:08.55 | nowhereFast | /opt/zimbra |
| 04:09.10 | nowhereFast | i mounted a new volume to this place |
| 04:09.18 | nowhereFast | now i am trying to copy the contents over |
| 04:09.25 | nowhereFast | after the copy the service does not start |
| 04:09.31 | tristezo2k | cp -a should work |
| 04:09.35 | tristezo2k | try rsync anyway |
| 04:09.43 | nowhereFast | rsync -av? |
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| 04:10.12 | tristezo2k | yes |
| 04:10.15 | tristezo2k | or rsync -a |
| 04:10.19 | tristezo2k | -v for verbose |
| 04:10.35 | tristezo2k | -a means archive and includes a lot of other switches |
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| 04:13.03 | nowhereFast | tries this |
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| 04:16.00 | nowhereFast | strange |
| 04:16.05 | nowhereFast | it works now |
| 04:16.23 | nowhereFast | but the filename colors in the two directories are different |
| 04:16.35 | nowhereFast | using ssh into the box |
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| 04:21.38 | justjealouse | I am trying to change fan speed on my asus m70v but when i type "pwmconfig" it says command not found |
| 04:22.51 | justjealouse | or rather, i can run it |
| 04:22.57 | justjealouse | but it says no suitable sensors installed |
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| 04:37.50 | nowhereFast | tristezo2k, -thank you |
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| 04:45.18 | justjealouse | hi is anyone does anyone here have the experience to help me with my fan control |
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| 04:47.53 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 04:47.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:48.02 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 04:48.03 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
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| 04:59.20 | JunK-Y | hi, id like to know if results of cppcheck reports are reported upstream? ex. http://qa.debian.org/daca/cppcheck/sid/php5_5.3.6-8.html |
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| 05:07.43 | nsadmin | JunK-Y, usually if there is an associated bug report and report number, the report will show whether something has been forwarded upstream |
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| 05:14.44 | JunK-Y | kk, are ya aware if theres any plan to upgrade to cppcheck 1.53? |
| 05:15.16 | somiaj | JunK-Y: might depend on the developer, but something like that is a good wishlist bug |
| 05:15.20 | nsadmin | what's that package page thing |
| 05:15.26 | nsadmin | its qa page |
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| 05:25.21 | boudiccas | ,versions xchat-gnome |
| 05:25.22 | judd | Package: xchat-gnome on i386 -- lenny: 1:0.18-3; squeeze: 1:0.26.1-3; sid: 1:0.30.0~git20110821.e2a400-0.2+b2; wheezy: 1:0.30.0~git20110821.e2a400-0.2+b2 |
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| 05:28.21 | ekontsevoy | Running 2 weeks on Debian (loving the experience) and I have a question: when the current 'testing' becomes 'stable', how do I "jump" to the next testing? |
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| 05:28.58 | ParkerR | debian |
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| 05:30.35 | nsadmin | ekontsevoy, there is not an upgrade procedure to the next testing because there is not a next testing |
| 05:32.06 | nsadmin | having said that, if you replace the kernel, reboot, replace dpkg, apt, apt-get, aptitude, possibly reboot again and finally run a dist-upgrade, that should probably do it... |
| 05:32.26 | nsadmin | however, that's a guess. educated tho it might be. |
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| 05:35.46 | somiaj | ekontsevoy: if you keep 'testing' as your distro it will happen automatically |
| 05:36.03 | somiaj | ekontsevoy: if you use 'wheezy' you'll have to change it to the new code name, then upgrade/dist-upgrade as usual |
| 05:38.15 | nsadmin | I don't necessarily recomment that... if you follow that suggestion, then you will be surprised when it happens, and maybe you won't know about it until far into the upgrade |
| 05:38.39 | nsadmin | I would recommend the latter choice |
| 05:39.05 | nsadmin | then, you upgrade because you're aware of it |
| 05:40.24 | somiaj | yea using wheezy is better over testing. |
| 05:40.29 | somiaj | well imo as well |
| 05:41.33 | aBound | Isn't Debian Wheezy in a 'testing' state right now and Debian Sid is unstable? |
| 05:41.45 | ParkerR | Slightly relevant XD http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71679/screenshots/screenshot009.png |
| 05:42.22 | somiaj | aBound: debian testing currently has the codename wheezy (this will change when wheezy stablilizes) |
| 05:42.23 | ParkerR | wheezy is testing and sid is unstable |
| 05:42.33 | somiaj | aBound: debian unstable will always have the code name sid, this won't change. |
| 05:42.37 | aBound | I'd figured that once I checked the site. |
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| 05:43.22 | somiaj | note testing and unstable are not releases. |
| 05:44.51 | aBound | Gotcha. |
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| 05:46.13 | ParkerR | Now very relevant. Sid http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71679/screenshots/screenshot014.png XD |
| 05:49.09 | nsadmin | ParkerR, relevent to? a question you're asking? |
| 05:49.27 | ParkerR | nsadmin, No we were just talking about sid :) |
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| 05:55.17 | aBound | Toy Story 3 weee.... |
| 05:55.18 | hanibana | hi. How can I find out the configure options (when compile) of a Debian package? |
| 05:55.58 | ParkerR | aBound, 3 was good. 1 is still my favorite because I grew up with it |
| 05:56.13 | nsadmin | hanibana, does the package have a configure script? |
| 05:56.39 | aBound | ParkerR, Same here I grew up with Toy Story too. :) |
| 05:56.50 | hanibana | nsadmin: you mean the binray package? |
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| 05:57.11 | nsadmin | I dunno. whatever package you want to see the compile options of, |
| 05:57.20 | ParkerR | hanibana, No in the source directory. A configure file |
| 05:58.53 | aBound | Sounds to me like you're trying to find out how a package was compiled. |
| 05:59.06 | aBound | As in the options it was compiled with. |
| 05:59.16 | hanibana | aBound: exactly. |
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| 05:59.55 | nsadmin | hanibana, what package? |
| 06:00.07 | aBound | hanibana, I'm sure a command exist but I don't know what command does that. :P |
| 06:00.07 | hanibana | php5 |
| 06:00.24 | nsadmin | , versions php5 |
| 06:00.25 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny13; lenny-proposed-updates: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze8; wheezy: 5.3.10-2; sid: 5.4.0-2 |
| 06:00.40 | nsadmin | ok, do this: |
| 06:00.42 | nsadmin | cd |
| 06:01.03 | nsadmin | mkdir my-php5 ; cd my-php5 |
| 06:01.13 | nsadmin | apt-get source php5 |
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| 06:01.41 | nsadmin | when that's done, say something |
| 06:03.57 | simonlnu | look at debian/rules ;) |
| 06:04.24 | nsadmin | which won't be in your . |
| 06:05.36 | nsadmin | maybe you should say something now... at this point I'm waiting on you to make sure you're paying attantion |
| 06:06.48 | simonlnu | you might wait a while... |
| 06:07.10 | nsadmin | needs that response to decide whether to wait |
| 06:07.25 | simonlnu | yeh |
| 06:07.51 | nsadmin | well ultimately I don't need it... but I -am- trying to be in service |
| 06:08.20 | hanibana | nsadmin: thanks :) give me some time |
| 06:08.32 | nsadmin | ok, thanks for responding |
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| 06:11.42 | ekontsevoy | @somiaj: thanks! that makes sense |
| 06:12.33 | ekontsevoy | \q |
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| 06:36.59 | simonlnu | nsadmin: cool, that was nice |
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| 06:44.14 | nsadmin | oh, did he figger it out? he hasn't got back to me |
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| 06:45.06 | nsadmin | well yes he did, but just to let me know I should give him time... but by this time it's a timeout |
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| 06:45.54 | lasers | Is it common to have static addresses on home network? I ask because sometimes I get new IP addresses and ssh would whine about different IP addresses. |
| 06:46.29 | lasers | I use avahi to connect to machines, but it whines about different IP sometimes. |
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| 06:46.51 | nsadmin | metawhining :) |
| 06:47.12 | lasers | Yes. And I metaignore it. >_> |
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| 06:50.25 | aBound | Internet service providers usually assign a DHCP to those using the Internet at their homes. |
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| 06:51.39 | nsadmin | a metawhine is a whine about whine :) match the pattern... see what it refers to! |
| 06:51.56 | bony | I am trying to compile a driver for a usb tv card. It fails at one point were it says that their is an error in header file videobuf-dvb.h and the error is that its not able to find another header file dvbdev.h. When i searched for this header file in packages.debian.org i didn't get any. is their a way to fix this problem? I guess if i can get a copy of dvbdev.h file the problem is resolved. |
| 06:52.10 | hanibana | nsadmin: so sorry! my net connection is so slow... now I've get the php5 source. |
| 06:52.14 | lasers | Eugm, I should explain it more clearly. Do you set static addresses on your machine and use DHCP on your router? Other than ignoring, what's the typical solution? |
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| 06:52.48 | nsadmin | hanibana, echo ". $(pwd)" |
| 06:53.03 | hanibana | :) |
| 06:53.10 | hanibana | . /root/myphp5 |
| 06:53.24 | nsadmin | oh, do you have enough space in /root? |
| 06:53.34 | hanibana | yes |
| 06:53.46 | nsadmin | ok, you should have one dir in there... |
| 06:53.47 | nsadmin | cd there |
| 06:54.20 | hanibana | ok |
| 06:54.25 | hanibana | cd php5-5.2.6.dfsg.1 |
| 06:54.31 | nsadmin | ok |
| 06:54.48 | nsadmin | exists configure? |
| 06:54.58 | hanibana | yes. |
| 06:55.18 | nsadmin | ok, you're looking for something that calls that configure script |
| 06:55.44 | hanibana | should I grep? |
| 06:55.45 | nsadmin | that should tell you the compile time options |
| 06:55.57 | aBound | lasers, I couldn't tell you the solution as I don't use a static ip address. :P |
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| 06:56.04 | nsadmin | likely, it's in ./debian/rules |
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| 06:57.51 | nsadmin | kaMatt? |
| 06:58.47 | hanibana | thanks nsadmin. :) |
| 06:59.18 | nsadmin | so, you found the configure invocation in debian/rules? |
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| 07:02.33 | qwe12 | how does /etc/init.d/ssh work? it never references /etc/ssh/sshd_config, so how does it know about it? |
| 07:02.56 | nsadmin | the daemon knows where that is |
| 07:03.12 | qwe12 | by default? |
| 07:03.16 | qwe12 | like as a default option |
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| 07:03.36 | nsadmin | probably /etc/ssh is hardwired |
| 07:03.42 | qwe12 | how do i get the init script to point to /etc/ssh2/sshd_config for example? |
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| 07:04.32 | nsadmin | why not just back up /etc/ssh and replace what's there? what's the purpose of moving the dir? |
| 07:04.35 | qwe12 | i tried modifying /etc/ssh/defaults SSH_OPTS there to be like -f /etc/new/path/sshd_config but it says permission denied even though the permissions are the same |
| 07:04.56 | qwe12 | i'm trying to start another sshd |
| 07:05.09 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 07:05.35 | nsadmin | wait it says permission denied? who are you trying to start sshd as? |
| 07:05.41 | qwe12 | as root |
| 07:05.48 | qwe12 | well i'm running the init script as root |
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| 07:06.03 | qwe12 | so i don't know why it's failing to read my new sshd_config path when i specify it |
| 07:07.06 | qwe12 | ooh you know what it probably is, syntax error, probably should be SSHD_OPTS="" forgot quotes :d let's see... |
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| 07:09.50 | hanibana | nsadmin: see: http://pastebin.com/0RjxrgD7 |
| 07:11.14 | hanibana | I should merge these blocks somehow, nah?! |
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| 07:14.13 | nsadmin | that's one huge configure invocation... |
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| 07:14.43 | nsadmin | wait! that;s not it! |
| 07:15.06 | nsadmin | oh, yes it is, I see it now |
| 07:18.46 | nsadmin | and there are a pair of invocations, and I'm not sure if either are the php invodations... |
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| 07:37.45 | jerrychou1113 | hi |
| 07:37.52 | jerrychou1113 | anyone here |
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| 07:38.25 | jerrychou1113 | how to install nvidia gt520 m driners |
| 07:39.10 | jerrychou1113 | ？ |
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| 07:40.16 | boudiccas | jerrychou1113; whats a 'driner' please? |
| 07:40.34 | jerrychou1113 | drivers |
| 07:41.43 | nsadmin | boudiccas, it's a towel so you can drina feet, arms, legs, etc |
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| 07:44.16 | nsadmin | do YOU know where your towels are right now? |
| 07:44.27 | aBound | In the dirty laundry. |
| 07:45.40 | boudiccas | yes, in my gym bag |
| 07:46.44 | nsadmin | what's your fav gym thing to do? |
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| 08:29.43 | jerrychou1113 | hello |
| 08:30.20 | jerrychou1113 | any debian hackers here |
| 08:32.37 | boudiccas | jerrychou1113; define 'hackers' please? |
| 08:33.02 | Jasperw | Hi, I have a exim4-daemon-custom package that i'd like to install, but it clashes with the existing exim4-daemon-heavy package, and if i try to remove the -heavy package i get into crazy dependancy hell. Is there a way of doing the upgrade and replace in one operation? (they both provide mail-transport-agent) |
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| 08:37.28 | nsadmin | if worst comes to worst, just use dpkg to remove (not purge: you have a config) the package. see: dpkg --help for more info. |
| 08:37.50 | nsadmin | after removal you should be able to install the custom |
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| 08:41.38 | Jasperw | --force-depends was what i needed |
| 08:42.26 | nsadmin | congratulations! you dug yourself using your own effort and found what you needed to do what you WANTED! |
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| 08:47.48 | nsadmin | Jasperw, one word on forcing... there is usually a reason why things are hidden behind force-options, and in general the reason is it's not a good idea unless you know what you're doing... in your case, you're overall replacing one mta with another, which should be ok. |
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| 08:50.17 | Jasperw | i was wondering if there was a way of telling aptitude about the new package and have it's dependancy stuff just realise that it wasn't a problem? I guess i could of setup my own repo? Tho that would of been long winded. |
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| 08:54.02 | Repox | Hi. I'm relatively new to Debian, but I managed to set it up on a VPS, running with Virtualmin for my hosting needs. Over night, my debian installation, just got filled up - I have no more space. Is it possible somehow to determine what files/libraries has the largest sizes? |
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| 08:55.34 | nsadmin | is this for a remote server? |
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| 08:56.52 | Repox | nsadmin: Yes, it's located at a data center and I only have SSH access. |
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| 08:57.58 | nsadmin | ok... how many partitions do you have? |
| 08:58.01 | Eninem | man du |
| 08:58.17 | nsadmin | that too btw. du is going to be your friend |
| 08:58.19 | Jasperw | do you have X on it? if so filelight is great. |
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| 08:58.39 | Jasperw | also by default disks keep some free space for root only, so you might have some space |
| 08:58.45 | nsadmin | remote server :) probably thousanda of miles away :) |
| 08:59.19 | Jasperw | yes, but x is network transparent, you can send the windows over an ssh connection and they appear on your local machine :) |
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| 09:00.12 | nsadmin | Jasperw, so you're saying it would work, and it does... |
| 09:00.15 | Repox | nsadmin: As far as I know I only have one partition, but I'm actually not sure... |
| 09:00.18 | nsadmin | could be very flow |
| 09:00.22 | nsadmin | slow |
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| 09:00.51 | Jasperw | df -h will show you partitions and how much space is used/free on them |
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| 09:01.20 | Jasperw | if the Filesystem line is 'none' it's a system thing and you can ignore it. |
| 09:02.05 | nsadmin | on a different subject, it is a very good idea to know what dirs are for what and an idea about what happens growthwise in each dir and why |
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| 09:02.40 | nsadmin | bottom line, you have to protect / from getting filled up |
| 09:03.05 | Repox | Jasperw: I see I have several partions, then, One of them is have 98% usage. |
| 09:03.25 | nsadmin | if /var is the same partition as / and /var/log grows fast, then / grows fast... if not, then /var/log growing does not affect the growth of / |
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| 09:04.15 | Repox | nsadmin: You're right - I thought I could manage that with quotas in Virtualmin, but it seems something else (maybe logs) is filling it up. |
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| 09:06.01 | nsadmin | applying this kind of management is the difference between a server filling up immediately and one that stays up for three years straight without even rebooting it (and now you see why they say "rebooting is a microsoft attitude and error") |
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| 09:10.29 | Repox | nsadmin: I guess I need to find some information on quota management for Virtualmin? |
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| 09:12.48 | nsadmin | well it might be a better idea to separate the partitions... and first you have to decide what to separate from what... and how will you decide, two things: one, what are the exact dirs that are filling, and what consequence does that have? second, a tool you can use (as mentioned above) is df |
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| 09:13.33 | nsadmin | another thing you might consider is the use of lvm so you have more online control over your partitions and their size |
| 09:13.45 | nsadmin | lvm will take a minnit to learn |
| 09:13.45 | Posterdati | please I've got problem upgrading a system from squeeze to wheezy: too many conflicts during dist-upgrade |
| 09:14.23 | Posterdati | I'm running aptitude --full-resolver -y from 2 days :) |
| 09:14.46 | Repox | nsadmin: I'll start using my Google-fu to learn some more about debian partitions and I'll take a look at lvm. Thank you. |
| 09:15.09 | nsadmin | you might start with lvm by experimenting with it at home |
| 09:15.42 | Repox | nsadmin: I'll do that :) |
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| 09:17.33 | nsadmin | keep backups, and while lvm has capability of including more than one physical disk in an allocation group (called a volume group), I would not do that unless it's a full hardware raid |
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| 09:18.15 | nsadmin | (people who have had no problem going beyond this advice are very careful and know what they're doing) |
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| 09:19.24 | ws | where is the Debian package db (one retrived with dpkg -l) stored? |
| 09:19.55 | nsadmin | on the filesystem |
| 09:20.19 | Whiskey | when i do a bash script |
| 09:20.19 | Whiskey | i have it to automatic do "sudo apt-get install package" |
| 09:20.19 | Whiskey | are it anyway i automatic can do so it can answer yes when it ask if i relly wannee install the package? |
| 09:21.37 | lasers | Whiskey: "man apt-get" |
| 09:22.06 | nsadmin | Whiskey, that, and automatically upgrading things is not the best idea |
| 09:22.31 | Whiskey | hehe :D |
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| 09:22.54 | nsadmin | you could get surprised |
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| 09:23.11 | Whiskey | i have a yes or no question on it allredy |
| 09:23.19 | Whiskey | no reason to ask 2 time |
| 09:23.21 | Whiskey | s |
| 09:23.35 | nsadmin | ahh... then what has you want to script it? |
| 09:23.50 | Whiskey | what do you ean? |
| 09:23.55 | Whiskey | what do you mean? |
| 09:24.22 | nsadmin | there is something that has you wanting to script it |
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| 09:24.35 | Whiskey | naaa just for fun :D |
| 09:24.36 | nsadmin | what is driving that want |
| 09:24.52 | marsfligth | I can' understand if Debian plans to move into Gnome 3.* in the future or not. Please tell me something trustworthy. Thanks |
| 09:25.12 | Whiskey | as i can nothing about linux i just try to lurn some stuff to mutch free time i don´t know relly |
| 09:25.31 | nsadmin | marsfligth, something trustworthy? 2 + 2 = 5, for REALLY high values of 2 |
| 09:25.46 | Whiskey | nsadmin, you good at bash scripting? |
| 09:25.53 | Whiskey | i actully got a problem that enoys me |
| 09:26.10 | optraz | where is the settings to configure so when my computer idle, it wont goes into sleep mode? (becuase when it is in sleep mode, the netowrk disconnected which i do *not* want that to happen) |
| 09:26.12 | nsadmin | you have a problem that enjoys you?! |
| 09:26.22 | Whiskey | no |
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| 09:27.33 | nsadmin | the best reference for bash is the info (NOT man) pages that come with bash source from ftp.gnu.org |
| 09:27.59 | nsadmin | because the info pages are maintained more often and in more detail |
| 09:27.59 | Whiskey | can take ages to find :D |
| 09:28.39 | nsadmin | that was quick... you tried it already?! |
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| 09:29.58 | Whiskey | try what? |
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| 09:30.30 | nsadmin | checking the info pages for bash |
| 09:31.48 | Whiskey | lol i don´t even know what im search for |
| 09:33.07 | Whiskey | i don´t even know if it possible |
| 09:33.22 | nsadmin | sigh. I'll find you the link. meanwhile, aptitude install ncftp texinfo info |
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| 09:36.03 | jelly-home | !tell marsfligth about gnome3 |
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| 09:36.24 | marsfligth | nsadmin: then, if I have well intended, nobody has idea if Debian will adopt 'Unity'? I have to choose what install for few pc's, but, honestly, nothing with that windows manger well tailed for secretaries, ms and mac users. I precise that this wont be a flam, and I don't want it at all. I would like to know if Debian for at least 2 years will maintain the Gnome 2.x style, jut this. Thanks |
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| 09:37.09 | nsadmin | oh, unity, I still havent' seen that thing |
| 09:37.17 | jelly-home | marsfligth: xfce looks reasonably conservative. |
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| 09:37.37 | nsadmin | except I know two gorgeous women, one named... you guessed it... Unity... the other named Rarity |
| 09:38.00 | marsfligth | jelly-home: thanks for the info |
| 09:38.22 | mintux | I want this command /etc/init.d/mysql restart can be run normal user without enter any password or be root user how can I do that ? |
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| 09:39.36 | sharpk[deb] | s |
| 09:39.46 | nsadmin | mintux, mysql can be run by many users.... therefore... it's a shared resource... |
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| 09:40.15 | nsadmin | mintux, it's like a printer where everyone resets the top of form |
| 09:40.15 | jelly-home | mintux: install and configure sudo to allow that user to run that command. Read the sudoers manual page and look at the commented out example in default /etc/sudoers. Use visudo to change the configuration instead of editing the file directly. |
| 09:40.45 | mintux | ok thanks |
| 09:40.48 | nsadmin | mintux, that's why it's protected behind administrative rights |
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| 09:42.36 | optraz | where is the settings to configure so when my computer idle, it wont goes into sleep mode? (becuase when it is in sleep mode, the netowrk disconnected which i do *not* want that to happen) |
| 09:43.06 | sharpK | how come running "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms" still installs a 195.36 driver? |
| 09:43.10 | nsadmin | maybe you can also configure your sleep mode so net does not disconnect |
| 09:43.12 | sharpK | when this page: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 09:43.18 | sharpK | says 280.13 |
| 09:43.33 | buyoq | rehash |
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| 09:45.11 | dancek | marsfligth, you might like http://mate-desktop.org/ which is a fork of GNOME 2 |
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| 09:45.38 | optraz | wtf nsadmin |
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| 09:47.58 | nsadmin | Where's The Futon? |
| 09:48.26 | optraz | sleeep? |
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| 09:57.38 | nsadmin | whisky: wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-4.1.tar.gz |
| 09:57.54 | buyoq | debiang |
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| 10:00.04 | nsadmin | oh, in the 4.1 tarball they even have a bashref.pdf |
| 10:00.12 | nsadmin | you don't even need info |
| 10:02.28 | nsadmin | Whiskey, as long as you're having fun writing bash scripts for everything under the sun... you might as well get a feel for its power and expressiveness |
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| 10:02.42 | marsfligth | dancek: nice hint,with 'mate', theoretically one can install the latest distro release, but maintaining the 'Gnome 2.x' behavior. I hope that 'Mate' will improve because the idea is great. I also tried it on 'Mint', that is his default windows manager, but in my opinion, it is not much customizable, I mean 'apple indicators' an other. I very hope that it should be stable, and personalizable as 'Gome 2.x' was. In more, I |
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| 10:02.44 | marsfligth | can't understand the core reasons that has animated this twisting i Gnome house |
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| 10:09.30 | onoez_omg | i need to run two instances of hostapd daemon in order to have two access points on two different interfaces, but is there any proper way to specify both configuration files in /etc/default/hostapd so it could be started over init.d script? |
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| 10:09.34 | Trewas | I think better approach than re-animating the corpse of gnome2 would be modifying gnome 3 to be usable, gnome-shell is built to be extendable anyway |
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| 10:13.04 | nsadmin | what;s the future of gnome if gnome2 is dead and gnome3 is useless (I don't have that opinion; it was just now expressed here... just asking.) |
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| 10:14.36 | idimmu | nsadmin: gnome4 |
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| 10:15.24 | nsadmin | idimmu, did you think the dead/useless part has any truth? |
| 10:15.40 | shaola | any directions about mountloop rootds withouth standard bootloader? |
| 10:15.40 | Gentoo64 | lots of people use gnome3... |
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| 10:16.04 | nsadmin | so that would count as "not useless" |
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| 10:16.14 | Trewas | many of the gnome developers are employed by redhat etc so gnome won't die anytime soon, but gnome2 is obviously dead as the upstream as they have moved to gnome3 |
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| 10:16.41 | Gentoo64 | i dont really like gnome 3, but its just a different ui basically |
| 10:16.44 | nsadmin | so that adds support for "gnome2 dead" |
| 10:16.48 | Gentoo64 | dont stop you doing work |
| 10:16.56 | Gentoo64 | xfce is a bit gnome 2 like |
| 10:17.02 | Gentoo64 | theres loads of other options |
| 10:17.10 | nsadmin | different than what? |
| 10:18.16 | idimmu | nsadmin: no, people whine whenever change occurs |
| 10:18.19 | Gentoo64 | a lot of people just dont like gnome 3 because its different |
| 10:18.23 | idimmu | its a nature of conservatism |
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| 10:18.30 | Gentoo64 | same with ubuntu and unity |
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| 10:18.44 | idimmu | and relates to their morality |
| 10:18.52 | nsadmin | idimmu, occasionally so do I... but yeah, I understand |
| 10:19.06 | idimmu | the complaints when gnome 2 came out over 1 were the same |
| 10:19.25 | Gentoo64 | what is it about gnome 2 you like? |
| 10:19.26 | nsadmin | I like that debian makes it easy but I don't like dist-upgrading to an unknown |
| 10:20.20 | idimmu | most/all the people that experience massive UI update drama spend a lot of their lives in terminals using mutt/irssi/etc anyway |
| 10:20.45 | Trewas | gnome3 and unity both are a bit more tablet-like than ye olde desktop paradigm, now even microsoft is going to that direction with windows 8 so I guess we old farts who just would like a working desktop are deemed as an unimportant niche |
| 10:21.09 | Gentoo64 | i agree the way theyre going is annoying |
| 10:21.27 | Gentoo64 | i think openbox with a normal panel is pretty decent and fast and basic |
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| 10:22.28 | idimmu | Trewas: if your only criteria is 'working desktop' youve decades worth of distros that arent carrying gnome2 |
| 10:22.41 | idimmu | if you fear change, dont change |
| 10:22.47 | nsadmin | maybe more tablet-like can be useful too |
| 10:22.47 | Trewas | actually having a composited desktop is a must have, I can't stand a non-composited one (like openbox, afaik) |
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| 10:23.27 | Gentoo64 | why comoposited? |
| 10:24.42 | nsadmin | what is "composited" as it applies to a ui? |
| 10:24.43 | Trewas | once having used to composited desktop, where you never see that programs painstakingly and slowly draw their windows, there is just no going back |
| 10:25.04 | Gentoo64 | i never get that :s |
| 10:25.10 | Gentoo64 | its only an illusion |
| 10:25.11 | Gentoo64 | lol |
| 10:25.15 | jelly-home | right |
| 10:25.34 | Gentoo64 | if you have slidey opening windows it will seem smoother |
| 10:25.54 | jelly-home | window redraws are the most annoying part of using multiple desktops/workspaces |
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| 10:29.41 | MaxLanar | Hello. I would like to restore the save of my system on a blank hard drive (because the hdd of my computer is dead after being drop on the floor while in operation). So i have a save made with rsync of all the folders (except /dev/*, /proc/*, /sys/*, /tmp/*, lost+found/, /media/, /mnt, /cdrom/, /var/cache/, /var/run/, /var/tmp/). |
| 10:29.48 | djcb | i'm trying to set up some android dev env on debian/sid |
| 10:29.48 | MaxLanar | What is the best way to do things, knowing i want my system to be encrypted ? |
| 10:29.55 | MaxLanar | Make an installation of debian with lvm crypto on the new hdd then restore the save simply with cp (or rsync?) from an other system where the partitions are manually mount ? |
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| 10:30.30 | djcb | but, installing ADT fails, because eclipse cannot find org.eclipse.jdt |
| 10:30.36 | djcb | any clue? |
| 10:30.47 | djcb | (jdt is installed) |
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| 10:34.47 | zero | is there anyway to install sw from repos on another partition? |
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| 10:35.39 | nsadmin | debian packages install in one place |
| 10:36.06 | nsadmin | but |
| 10:36.25 | nsadmin | a way to install onto another partition is to install another debian onto that partition |
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| 10:37.37 | __zero | nsadmin: ermm no that fix my case.. I have a small debian machine that has 512mb of hd but I have an external hd where I would like to install things... |
| 10:38.03 | __zero | and I'd rather not install another debian |
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| 10:38.36 | __zero | maybe doing a little ln trick.. |
| 10:39.13 | nsadmin | ok, how large is the external? you willing to mount it internal? |
| 10:39.45 | nsadmin | or, willing to buy a third hd? |
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| 10:40.07 | nsadmin | I bought a 2tb sata for 100 |
| 10:40.32 | __zero | the external drive is 500gb |
| 10:40.45 | __zero | i don't mind mounting it permanently |
| 10:41.15 | nsadmin | then maybe you would consider having an lvm pv on it |
| 10:41.21 | nsadmin | is there stuff already there? |
| 10:41.39 | __zero | there's nothing inside |
| 10:41.45 | nsadmin | so it's new |
| 10:41.59 | __zero | well, used to hold things but I just formated it recently |
| 10:42.09 | __zero | to ext3 |
| 10:42.37 | nsadmin | oh ok, my tendency would be to format it as LVM PV |
| 10:42.52 | nsadmin | then add that pv to one volume group |
| 10:43.19 | nsadmin | then you can make as many logical partitions as you want |
| 10:43.37 | __zero | nsadmin: great, thanks ^^ |
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| 10:44.10 | __zero | nsadmin: oh but wait |
| 10:44.11 | nsadmin | then, you can make /usr, /home, /var to reside on the drive |
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| 10:44.44 | __zero | nsadmin: yeah but does that mean i have to erase the current /usr /home /var partitions that reside in the internal harddrive? |
| 10:45.13 | __zero | nsadmin: or is there a way to mount the other one as an extension of the previous one? |
| 10:45.42 | nsadmin | you would make tnose logical vols on the 500g drive then copy from the .5 g drive |
| 10:46.39 | nsadmin | this way you can have multiple separate partitions that you can start small and grow when needed |
| 10:47.07 | __zero | good |
| 10:47.35 | nsadmin | so you start maybe using 1g of the new drive |
| 10:47.50 | nsadmin | and later you can add space |
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| 10:51.40 | [sr] | howdy people |
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| 10:52.02 | nsadmin | people?! HERE!!??? |
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| 10:52.21 | [sr] | i have a machine, with a 3rd party kernel modules that crashs the machine and i have to a hard reset, but the stacktrace it not shown on the active console |
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| 10:52.24 | [sr] | how can i active it? |
| 10:52.46 | [sr] | nsadmin: si :p |
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| 10:53.13 | voegelas | does "uname -p" always output "unknown" on debian? i've only got a i386 machine with squeeze at hand. does it match "uname -m" if the output is _not_ "unknown", i.e. is the output "x86_64" on amd64, or is it something like "Intel Core Duo X123"? I'm trying to convince upstream to use "uname -m" instead of "uname -p" in his configure script but i need more details. |
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| 10:53.31 | [sr] | nsadmin: how can i solve this? |
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| 10:55.50 | nsadmin | why use third party modules |
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| 10:56.15 | nsadmin | why not build them from source on the kernel you have |
| 10:56.17 | jerrychou1113 | hi |
| 10:56.38 | nsadmin | why not get the source that most closely matches the kernel you have, then |
| 10:56.42 | nsadmin | why not build them from source on the kernel you have |
| 10:57.01 | jerrychou1113 | how to install debian gt520m drivers |
| 10:57.19 | [sr] | nsadmin: it's something that i'm testing and debugin it, i have vanilla kernel, it's a bug from te 3rd party module i'm aware of it, i'm helping on the fix |
| 10:57.22 | jerrychou1113 | and sound card drivers |
| 10:57.53 | nsadmin | [sr], so you are building the module for the kernel you are running and it |
| 10:57.58 | nsadmin | is still crashing? |
| 10:58.21 | [sr] | nsadmin: yes, it's a module bug, i want the stracktrace to send the devs :) |
| 10:59.47 | nsadmin | cool... I don't know what debugging tools are available for kernel debugging... |
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| 11:00.19 | [sr] | oh ok |
| 11:00.35 | [sr] | i have other 5 servers that when a module crash it shows the trace on the active console |
| 11:00.40 | [sr] | on this new instalation it doesn't |
| 11:00.46 | [sr] | didn't figure why |
| 11:01.37 | nsadmin | when you say "active console" do you mean one of the first 6? |
| 11:01.50 | nsadmin | do you think the stack trace is in a log somewhere? |
| 11:02.24 | [sr] | yes, console 1 |
| 11:02.52 | MyTh88 | any idea why apt pinning is ignored? |
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| 11:03.07 | nsadmin | and when you browse the other consoles you can't find it there either? |
| 11:03.35 | [sr] | no, the machine hangs, no imput is allowed, it's freezed |
| 11:03.37 | [sr] | dead |
| 11:03.44 | [sr] | a real kernel panic |
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| 11:04.07 | nsadmin | why not test the module on one of the other machines? |
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| 11:04.25 | [sr] | the others are production servers |
| 11:04.28 | nsadmin | the problem is not obvious, at least not to me |
| 11:04.32 | MyTh88 | http://pastebin.com/huNHVUwD |
| 11:04.32 | MyTh88 | apt-get upgrad still pointing to usntabls/testing |
| 11:04.37 | nsadmin | so that's another difference |
| 11:04.39 | [sr] | ya i know |
| 11:04.54 | nsadmin | perhaps other software is installed on the production boxes |
| 11:04.57 | [sr] | thats a real odd thing to me |
| 11:05.06 | nsadmin | which could be yet another difference |
| 11:05.25 | [sr] | that is for sure |
| 11:05.37 | [sr] | but i think its klogd job no? |
| 11:05.54 | nsadmin | why not install everything that's on the production box onto the test box |
| 11:06.11 | MyTh88 | no idea? |
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| 11:07.01 | nsadmin | and right after, see if it's doing the same thing still |
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| 11:07.17 | nsadmin | maybe klogd isn't installed either |
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| 11:09.31 | [sr] | it is |
| 11:09.41 | [sr] | but wait, going to activate some kernel debug options |
| 11:10.24 | nsadmin | do you have to build new kernel to do that? |
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| 11:10.54 | Nik05_ | hey guys |
| 11:11.47 | [sr] | yes and no |
| 11:11.56 | [sr] | just bzImage recreation |
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| 11:12.15 | Nik05 | ho im back |
| 11:12.32 | MyTh88 | got it :P |
| 11:13.07 | Nik05 | im getting a dmesg error `Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...' |
| 11:13.11 | Nik05 | what to do about that? |
| 11:13.30 | [sr] | Nik05: ignore that one :) |
| 11:13.54 | Nik05 | i cant ignore it :;p |
| 11:14.21 | Nik05 | i want to know what the cause of it is |
| 11:14.24 | cardiel | Is debian testing stable enough for server use? |
| 11:14.52 | Nik05 | define `server use' |
| 11:15.13 | Nik05 | and sr i think i dont even have a system speaker |
| 11:15.15 | cardiel | Nik05: private server , will not be used for public email etc. |
| 11:15.30 | [sr] | cardiel: u should say, was ever redhat ok for server use? :) |
| 11:15.59 | cardiel | :) , but its stable enough then= |
| 11:16.01 | cardiel | ? |
| 11:16.12 | Nik05 | probabl |
| 11:16.13 | gnugr | cardiel: yes |
| 11:16.26 | cardiel | ok , will do a distupgrade then ;p |
| 11:16.29 | Nik05 | if you dont know it, use stable :P |
| 11:16.45 | Nik05 | thats what they tell me :P |
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| 11:16.56 | cardiel | Nik05: i want to use software that is more up to date |
| 11:17.03 | Nik05 | go for unstable |
| 11:17.10 | Nik05 | lol |
| 11:17.52 | Nik05 | or ports |
| 11:17.56 | Nik05 | i dont know, im a noob |
| 11:18.04 | cardiel | testing maybe is enough |
| 11:18.19 | nsadmin | this is for a server? |
| 11:18.30 | Nik05 | dont use testing on server... |
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| 11:18.50 | Nik05 | or am i wrong? |
| 11:18.53 | cardiel | unstable is more stable or testing or? |
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| 11:19.02 | cardiel | cant remember |
| 11:19.06 | nsadmin | stable is stable |
| 11:19.18 | Nik05 | stable - testing - unstable - experimental |
| 11:19.23 | nsadmin | by this definition: NO NEW FEATURES, NO NEW VERSIONS. |
| 11:19.29 | cardiel | ok |
| 11:19.57 | Nik05 | just run stable cardiel :P |
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| 11:20.09 | Nik05 | im running stable on this server |
| 11:20.20 | gnugr | i use wheezy as server and works fine |
| 11:20.20 | Nik05 | oh no not this one, this is ubuntu server lolz -_- |
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| 11:21.10 | nsadmin | that and knowing how to run servers is important for remote servers to be able to stay up for like 5 years straight |
| 11:21.20 | Nik05 | guys how do i stop my kernel from loading pcspkr? |
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| 11:21.41 | nsadmin | blacklist it |
| 11:21.47 | Nik05 | how? :) |
| 11:21.58 | nsadmin | look into it |
| 11:22.06 | Nik05 | someting with mode --blacklist |
| 11:22.08 | Nik05 | mod* |
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| 11:22.14 | Nik05 | and something else :P |
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| 11:22.59 | gnugr | /etc/modprobe.d/blacklisr.conf |
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| 11:23.24 | gnugr | /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
| 11:23.39 | Nik05 | modprobe right |
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| 11:25.14 | Nik05 | modprobe -b pcspkr right? |
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| 11:26.40 | Nik05 | brb |
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| 11:27.33 | shaola | anybody knows how to mountloop rootfs? |
| 11:27.55 | mdasoh | rootfstype=minix initrd=file |
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| 11:28.01 | ronny | hi |
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| 11:28.13 | Nik05 | i think error is gone :) |
| 11:28.36 | shaola | klys: is not with standard bootloader |
| 11:28.39 | ronny | what repo should i add/use, if i want to install the libs for decoding dvd movies so i can watch them? |
| 11:28.55 | nsadmin | !dmm |
| 11:28.55 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
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| 11:30.15 | Nik05 | ronny you need css i think |
| 11:30.18 | buyoq | hey guys |
| 11:30.21 | buyoq | need to ask something |
| 11:30.44 | Nik05 | libdvdcss or something i dont know |
| 11:30.46 | Nik05 | hello |
| 11:30.50 | buyoq | when i tried root@binx:~# /sbin/iptables --table nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE , i got an error of "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name." |
| 11:30.56 | cardiel | is there any support for quota in postfix by default or do i have to patch postfix? |
| 11:31.14 | klys | shaola: losetup /dev/loop0 /dev/ram0 |
| 11:31.27 | asulil | hi |
| 11:31.30 | jelly-home | buyoq: that ought to be available with the default Debian kernel. What does your "uname -a" say? |
| 11:31.31 | klys | hil |
| 11:31.45 | buyoq | Linux binx 2.6.32-274.7.1.el5.028stab095.1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 24 20:49:24 MSD 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 11:32.06 | Woet | buyoq: is it a vps? |
| 11:32.29 | Nik05 | guys dmesg only outputting stfu after reboot or also things before last reboot? |
| 11:32.30 | ronny | thx |
| 11:32.35 | buyoq | yes it is |
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| 11:32.56 | buyoq | alrdy tried iptables --table nat -A POSTROUTING -o venet0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 11:32.59 | buyoq | no go aswell |
| 11:33.00 | jelly-home | buyoq: openvz VPSes have limited iptables functionality. |
| 11:33.17 | asulil | Hi all, does anyone know if there's special IRC network lan and vlan..etc? thank you |
| 11:33.20 | buyoq | ooo..so it's true then.. |
| 11:33.27 | jelly-home | buyoq: they're basically glorified chroots, don't expect too much |
| 11:33.27 | shaola | klys: can you take a look at this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23441418&postcount=1723 |
| 11:33.28 | buyoq | heard that from my friend aswell.. |
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| 11:33.40 | buyoq | so..should i try bind9 ? |
| 11:33.45 | shaola | that's my linuxrc |
| 11:33.56 | jelly-home | buyoq: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 11:34.09 | buyoq | tried to setup pptpd on my debian..i can connect to achieve,no problem.but no internet access |
| 11:34.13 | buyoq | any way to solve it ? |
| 11:34.16 | shaola | and this the parameters i put in boot.cfg: |
| 11:34.19 | shaola | cmdline = nvmem=128M@384M mem=1024M@0M vmalloc=128M gpt video=tegrafb console=tty0 usbcore.oldscheme_first=1 lp0_vec=8192@0x1fbed000 root=/dev/loop0 ro quiet splash |
| 11:35.02 | jelly-home | buyoq: no idea. Contact your provider for support? Switch to Xen-based VPS? |
| 11:35.16 | syslq_ | asulil: try networking |
| 11:35.24 | syslq_ | asulil: and cisco |
| 11:35.27 | buyoq | hmm ok..thanks ! |
| 11:35.41 | klys | shaola: pivot_root |
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| 11:37.01 | shaola | klys: in the linuxrc? |
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| 11:38.49 | klys | shaola: how are you setting the size of your initrd? |
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| 11:39.28 | shaola | it's quite small, because android boot partition only can be 8 Mb |
| 11:40.11 | shaola | i have recompiled the kernel now with lmza compression wich makes it smaller, let me see how much space do i have left |
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| 11:40.15 | asulil | syslq_: HI, thank you so much |
| 11:40.17 | fasta | How do I move the first 200GB of a diskimage a.img to another file firstpart.img , such that cat firstpart.img b.img > c.img == originala.img ? |
| 11:40.37 | syslq_ | asulil: YW |
| 11:40.56 | fasta | How do I move the first 200GB of a diskimage a.img to another file firstpart.img , such that cat firstpart.img a.img > c.img == originala.img ? |
| 11:41.18 | syslq_ | fasta: ? |
| 11:41.38 | fasta | syslq: I essentially want to have an in place split command. |
| 11:41.38 | syslq_ | Ah |
| 11:41.40 | asulil | <syslq_: it works both respectably on Efnet and Undernet |
| 11:41.55 | syslq_ | asulil: I use the one on freenode |
| 11:42.01 | shaola | ok, the kernel is 2.3Mb |
| 11:42.12 | shaola | so i can make an initrd about 8M |
| 11:42.26 | klys | fasta: CHS H*S*512 (cyl 1=?da1) losetup -o |
| 11:42.57 | fasta | klys: so, losetup? |
| 11:42.58 | asulil | syslq_: yep Freenode as well |
| 11:43.06 | shaola | sorry klys, i don't know what fasta means |
| 11:43.29 | asulil | good continuation |
| 11:44.34 | jelly-home | FASTER |
| 11:44.45 | CookieJar | it reminds me of Faspa |
| 11:44.59 | CookieJar | a mennonite meal sometimes had in the afternoon |
| 11:45.03 | jelly-home | opens CookieJar and steals one |
| 11:45.13 | klys | ha |
| 11:45.16 | CookieJar | usually of things like lunch meat, cheese, buns |
| 11:45.29 | fasta | klys: I don't think that's going to do what I want. |
| 11:46.16 | fasta | Isn't there some tool to just say move partition a in image file b to file c? |
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| 11:46.40 | klys | fasta: ext2resize ? |
| 11:46.51 | fasta | klys: m o v e |
| 11:47.25 | fasta | klys: and it isn't ext2. A tool on this level should be FS independent. |
| 11:47.26 | klys | you probbly just want cp -a |
| 11:47.43 | fasta | klys: please just stop. |
| 11:48.01 | fasta | klys: either you are trolling or you really don't have any idea what you are talking about. |
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| 11:55.20 | ronny | i installed libdvdcss, but totem still claims its missing a lib, what am i missing? |
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| 11:56.32 | ronny | !dmm list |
| 11:56.32 | dpkg | To list all packages you have installed from debian-multimedia.org: aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' -F'%100p'. Note: apt must know about the origin repository for this to work (i.e. you have a 'deb' line for it in sources.list and 'apt-get update' has been run). See also <which repo>. |
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| 11:58.06 | pzn | where can I search for the reason why package "sarg" is not in squeeze? it is only in lenny, squeeze-backports, wheezy |
| 11:58.53 | jelly-home | ,versions sarg |
| 11:58.54 | judd | Package: sarg on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.5-2; lenny-backports: 2.3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze-backports: 2.3.1-1~bpo60+1; sid: 2.3.2-2; wheezy: 2.3.2-2 |
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| 11:59.05 | Argafal | Is there any good page to read about the RT_PREEMPT option? I am wondering about whether to install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 or linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64. Machine has 32 non-HT cores and will mostly run large calculations |
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| 11:59.38 | jelly-home | pzn: typically that means I had been overly buggy during the whole freeze period and noone cared enough to fix it for it to enter squeeze |
| 11:59.44 | jelly-home | s/I/it/ |
| 11:59.45 | klys | shaola: incomplete write to /dev/ram0, mi doesn't see how you have limited the size of /dev/ram0 |
| 11:59.58 | pzn | jelly-home, thanks! |
| 12:00.52 | klys | recently configured linux-2.6.35 |
| 12:01.02 | shaola | klys: i don't know, either |
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| 12:02.19 | Trewas | Argafal: realtime kernel is irrelevant for large calculations |
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| 12:03.04 | Argafal | Trewas: thanks. that's what i thought. |
| 12:04.59 | Argafal | that's what i should have found before asking: https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/articles/f/r/e/Frequently_Asked_Questions_7407.html |
| 12:05.11 | Argafal | just in case someone was reading my question and wondering about more details |
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| 12:24.36 | mute_ | What's pae stand for? |
| 12:24.59 | klys | ~pae |
| 12:25.01 | kwork | physical address extenesion |
| 12:25.08 | kwork | google is your friend |
| 12:25.19 | klys | programmable amiga emulator |
| 12:25.20 | kwork | extension* |
| 12:25.20 | jelly-home | cardamon: /msg dpkg pae |
| 12:25.31 | cardamon | jelly-home: Helpful! |
| 12:25.35 | kwork | klys: amiga emulator :D |
| 12:25.46 | jelly-home | cardamon: you're welcome |
| 12:26.01 | cardamon | Ah, it's descriptive of the kernel. |
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| 12:29.30 | daemonkeeper | $it_depends |
| 12:29.30 | cardamon | I just reassemble my netbook. Seven screws leftover. |
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| 12:37.08 | Whiskey | I have Debian installed on swedish |
| 12:37.14 | Whiskey | how do i get the terminal to show åäö? |
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| 12:41.41 | jetscreamer | maybe locales but i'm not sure |
| 12:41.43 | abrotman | Whiskey: dpkg-reconfigure locales .. choose a .se encoding ? |
| 12:42.03 | abrotman | USians have no freaking clue about character decorations :( |
| 12:42.21 | jetscreamer | well i had a small clue ... :) |
| 12:42.35 | abrotman | we both guessed! |
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| 12:43.05 | Whiskey | well |
| 12:43.07 | Whiskey | i think it is |
| 12:43.09 | Whiskey | that allredy |
| 12:43.24 | abrotman | you have to logout/login after changing it |
| 12:43.52 | jelly-home | !se |
| 12:43.52 | dpkg | Svensktalande debian-användare hittar du i #debian.se på FreeNode (irc.freenode.net), SE is also the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sweden, it was included in the standard 1974. |
| 12:44.12 | jelly-home | wonders if that channel's still alive |
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| 12:46.03 | phaidros | DelTree: ehlo, me again :) |
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| 12:46.37 | phaidros | one more question about the spcial bits: how can one ensure that always g+w is set for new files? |
| 12:47.18 | daemonkeeper | You want to read about umasks. |
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| 12:49.25 | phaidros | daemonkeeper: umask is depending on env or is there a ways to "bind" a umask to a certain directory? |
| 12:49.39 | ronny | again, i got libdvdcss from the dmm repos installed, but totem still cant play dvd movies, anyone got an idea how to figure what else is missing |
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| 12:52.50 | jasox | tnx |
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| 12:54.43 | flo`` | what's the best way to store files encrypted on a non-trustworthy remote machine. i want to be able to "mirror" my local files to that remote encrypted container without causing excessive bandwith usage (so only the changed files should be re-transmitted) |
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| 12:56.09 | flo`` | as for storing the files, i'd tend to only store one huge encrypted container file on remote, use sshfs to get access to that file from local, and then truecrypt- or zfs-mount that file locally. that way, remote never can decrypt the content. |
| 12:56.11 | abrotman | gpg |
| 12:56.23 | flo`` | is there a better solution for this? |
| 12:56.38 | flo`` | abrotman, how can gpg help me there? |
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| 12:58.14 | abrotman | flo``: sorry, doesn't help you for one huge container |
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| 12:58.30 | ansgar | flo``: encfs + rsync |
| 12:58.35 | flo`` | i'm not restricted to use one huge container. that was only my idea |
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| 12:59.19 | flo`` | what i want is: remote never can decrypt my files. i can easily mirror my local files to remote without excessive bandwith usage. and i have easy access to my remote files |
| 12:59.55 | flo`` | ansgar, where do i enter my password then? on local or on remote? |
| 13:00.31 | ansgar | flo``: You store the files locally, provide an encrypted view to it (--reverse), then rsync the encrypted files to a remote location. |
| 13:00.46 | sharpK | anyone have a clue why 3.2 sees my HDMI audio device and 2.6 doesn't, and how I can get 2.6 to do the same? |
| 13:01.04 | ansgar | Of course you can also store them encrypted locally if you want. |
| 13:02.00 | jelly-home | sharpK: theoretically you could build an updated alsa kernel module set of the older kernel... but why not just keep using the newer one |
| 13:02.13 | flo`` | ansgar, so the files are in plaintext on my local harddisk, i have access to the encrypted versions of these on some local mountpoint, and then i rsync that local mountpoint (containing the encrypted files) to remote? |
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| 13:02.50 | sharpK | jelly-home, because I can't get any of the nvidia drivers to work on 3.2... once I create an xorg.conf file, it won't boot into desktop, and I just get a black screen with a blinking cursor... |
| 13:03.18 | sharpK | if I delete the xorg.conf, I can boot into desktop, but it's a weird resolution and I can't use nvidia-settings to control the monitors... |
| 13:03.20 | ansgar | flo``: Yes. |
| 13:03.27 | flo`` | sounds cool. but wouldn't my local cpu have to re-encrypt all files (multiple gigabytes) in order to allow rsync to calculate the checksums? |
| 13:03.52 | ansgar | flo``: Depends, rsync can also just look at modification times. |
| 13:03.56 | jelly-home | sharpK: I'm running wheezy, 32bit, with Debian's 3.2 amd64 kernel, working nvidia driver from packages and working HDMI via alsa |
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| 13:04.27 | flo`` | can i rely on modification times? that is, if i'm not doing any black magic but just use my system, will the mod-times be correct always? |
| 13:04.34 | sharpK | jelly-home, is it possible that it's because I'm on squeeze that the nvidia drivers aren't working on 3.2? also, which drivers are you using (backports?)? |
| 13:04.39 | flo`` | (plus or minus hours is okay) |
| 13:05.04 | jelly-home | sharpK: "weird resolution" sounds as if the drivers are not correctly installed |
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| 13:05.23 | jelly-home | sKeiths: but if the same driver works fine with an older kernel, it's not that |
| 13:05.29 | sharpK | jelly-home, no, it does that even before the drivers are loaded, it's just what 3.2 does because I'm connected to both the TV and the monitor |
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| 13:06.13 | sharpK | and I know the drivers don't work without the xorg.conf file, because when I open nvidia settings it said something along the lines of "x-driver not running/install, use root to "nvidia-xconfig" and restart x server" |
| 13:06.15 | flo`` | ansgar, can i rely on modification times if i'm just using my system normally? |
| 13:06.27 | sharpK | when I do that and restart, I get the blinking black cursor without going into desktop |
| 13:06.47 | sharpK | when I go into recovry mode and rm etc/X11/xorg.conf, I can boot back into the weird resoution desktop |
| 13:06.48 | jelly-home | sharpK: pastebin your dmesg (or contents of /var/log/kern.log from this reboot) and /var/log/Xorg.0.log with 3.2 |
| 13:07.24 | jelly-home | sharpK: did you follow "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms", or some other howto? |
| 13:07.27 | ansgar | flo``: It's what rsync does by default (actually it's size + modification time). |
| 13:07.37 | sharpK | someone asked me for the xorg.0.log before: http://pastebin.com/3a8y2DJM |
| 13:07.47 | sharpK | there it is after I deleted xorg.conf and booted back into desktop |
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| 13:08.12 | flo`` | ah, cool, okay. and only if they differ and if syncing to remote, then it checksums parts of the file or so? (that delta-algorithm-thingy) |
| 13:08.19 | sharpK | jelly-home followed various how-tos, but I'll try the dpkg one on 3.2 I suppose... http://pastebin.com/3a8y2DJM |
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| 13:09.09 | jelly-home | sharpK: yeah, that's not a log from nvidia driver at all, it's not enabled |
| 13:09.44 | ansgar | flo``: Yes, I think so. |
| 13:10.00 | sharpK | jelly-home, yeah, maybe the creation of the xorg.conf file enables the drivers, but that's what stops me from booting into desktop in the first place... |
| 13:10.09 | sharpK | let me try and find the kern.log |
| 13:10.17 | flo`` | okay, thanks. |
| 13:10.32 | flo`` | will rsync's delta-algorithm work properly on encrypted files? |
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| 13:11.07 | jelly-home | sharpK: you don't need to create a whole xorg.conf, that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf bit, and blacklisting of nouveau, should be enough |
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| 13:11.41 | fragrant | Hi, how can i increase the sound on debian system? |
| 13:11.58 | sharpK | jelly-home should those things already be done after the apt-get'ing of the backport driver...? |
| 13:12.07 | sharpK | jelly-home, automatically, that is? |
| 13:12.17 | fragrant | alsamixer has the highest volume, but still i can't get the highest sound like i get on fedora |
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| 13:13.28 | jelly-home | sharpK: just do what dpkg says in that overly long command line |
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| 13:19.44 | sharpK | jelly-home trying it now... |
| 13:19.46 | aspiers | what's the cleanest way of installing a newer openssh-client from wheezy into squeeze? I need the new ControlPersist feature |
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| 13:20.03 | jelly-home | !tell aspiers about ssb |
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| 13:20.46 | flo`` | ansgar, and how would i access my remotely-stored files from local then? sshfs or somehow network-mount the encrypted files to a local mountpoint, then encfs-mount them to /decryted? |
| 13:20.46 | jelly-home | aspiers: don't install binary packages from anything newer into stable. That way lies madness. |
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| 13:21.20 | aspiers | ok, but I checked earlier and openssh-client isn't in backports |
| 13:21.41 | jelly-home | aspiers: no, it's not. You will have to make your own, local backport. |
| 13:21.43 | ansgar | flo``: rsync in the other direction or sshfs, then use encfs on top of that. |
| 13:21.55 | aspiers | jelly: you mean, compile from scratch? |
| 13:21.57 | flo`` | okay, sounds cool. thank you =) |
| 13:22.08 | jelly-home | aspiers: not from scratch, from Debian's sources. |
| 13:22.23 | aspiers | well yeah, that's what I meant :) |
| 13:22.24 | ansgar | flo``: I haven't done this myself though. Might need a bit trying around. |
| 13:22.31 | sharpK | jelly-home, ran the command restarted, all seems the same, just weird resolution desktop, let me try the "nvidia-xconfig" to create the xorg file and see if I can boot into desktop then |
| 13:22.32 | aspiers | jelly-home: OK thanks, I'll look into that |
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| 13:22.52 | jelly-home | sharpK: you do have to reboot to disable nouveau. |
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| 13:23.10 | sharpK | jelly-home, I already did after running the command |
| 13:23.19 | sharpK | but it booted in to the weird resolution desktop just like it did before... |
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| 13:23.42 | flo`` | does encfs also encrypt filenames? |
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| 13:25.01 | jelly-home | flo``: it does, but there's roughly the same number of files and directories on the backend fs as there is inside |
| 13:25.24 | sharpK | jelly-home, unfortunately still a blinking cursor... maybe I should have uninstaslled other things before I ran that command? |
| 13:25.59 | jelly-home | sharpK: hard to say. pastebin your dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log again |
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| 13:26.33 | flo`` | jelly-home, so an attacker can guess that the directory with the huge 3GB-files probably contains movies? |
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| 13:27.06 | flo`` | is it usually a problem everyone can see filesizes and the directory structure? |
| 13:27.14 | jelly-home | flo``: you tell me |
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| 13:28.51 | Iridos | and from the stains on the keyboard they can tell it'... forget I mentioned it |
| 13:28.52 | fasta | Is there any browser which doesn't write to the harddisk until you actually end the program? |
| 13:29.01 | flo`` | well, i'm storing an encrypted backup of /home... actually i have nothing to hide (except some music files which might or might not be copied ;) ) |
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| 13:29.37 | fasta | AFAIK, all browsers continuously store data in on-disk caches for information that doesn't need to be persistent. |
| 13:29.57 | flo`` | fasta, mount these caches as tmpfs |
| 13:30.20 | fasta | flo``: but I don't know which files are touched by these browsers. |
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| 13:30.26 | sharpK | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/jGLB2FAT |
| 13:30.30 | fasta | flo``: if it is just one directory, then it is easy. |
| 13:30.41 | flo`` | hrm. is there any other way to securely store my data remotely _without_ the possibility of seeing the directory structure? |
| 13:30.47 | fasta | flo``: I also think that a distribution should do these kinds of things.\ |
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| 13:31.21 | flo`` | for example, will my sshfs + then locally zfs- or truecrypt mount work as intended? or will that be slow, cause heavy traffic or both? |
| 13:32.02 | jelly-home | sharpK: and dmesg? |
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| 13:34.15 | sharpK | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/mv7vPVmw |
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| 13:35.18 | anigma | what's the name of the ipv6 module package? |
| 13:35.24 | sly007 | Hello, I don't understand why aptitude search aircrack doesn't show aircrack-ng while it is listed in packages.debian.org in SID (and I use SID) |
| 13:36.06 | jelly-home | sharpK: you did not blacklist nouveau properly, the kernel module still loaded |
| 13:36.12 | streuner_ | judd, versions aircrack-ng |
| 13:36.13 | judd | Package: aircrack-ng on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.0~rc1-2 |
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| 13:36.51 | jelly-home | sly007: it had been removed from Debian because of licensing issues |
| 13:37.11 | sly007 | then why is it here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/aircrack-ng |
| 13:37.48 | Woet | anigma: 'ipv6' for lenny, included by default on squeeze |
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| 13:38.35 | streuner_ | sly007: do you use alpha or hppa? :-) |
| 13:39.09 | streuner_ | dpkg, aircrack-ng |
| 13:39.09 | dpkg | aircrack-ng is a suite of <WEP> and <WPA> cracking utilities forked from aircrack. Not part of the Squeeze release due to Debian bug #605519, removed from Debian to resolve bug #642934. http://aircrack-ng.org/doku?id=faq http://aircrack-ng.org/ #aircack-ng on irc.freenode.net. See also <pyrit>, <weplab>. |
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| 13:39.28 | jelly-home | sly007: leftovers, apparently |
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| 13:41.12 | jelly-home | sly007: it might come back at some point, see the discussion in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=642934 |
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| 13:41.44 | jelly-home | anigma: ipv6 is built-in in Debian kernels. |
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| 13:42.11 | anigma | Woet: well, I have squeeze running. But when I restart networking after I've added a static ipv6 address to /interfaces, I get "FATAL: Module ipv6 not found." |
| 13:42.14 | sharpK | jelly-home I think I might not have run the full, command, should I just copy and paste that into a root terminal? do I need to uninstall something before or should it take care of things by itself? |
| 13:42.19 | Woet | anigma: vps? |
| 13:42.30 | Iridos | no aircrack-ng? That's sad |
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| 13:42.44 | anigma | Woet: yes. |
| 13:43.02 | Woet | anigma: then it's not loaded on the hostnode |
| 13:43.06 | Woet | anigma: contact your vps provide |
| 13:43.09 | Woet | +r |
| 13:43.13 | streuner_ | Iridos: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=642934 - "Better alternatives exist." :-) |
| 13:43.18 | anigma | ah |
| 13:43.22 | jelly-home | sharpK: run it exactly as it is, and watch out for any failures |
| 13:43.41 | Woet | anigma: openvz i assume? |
| 13:43.42 | jelly-home | streuner_: can you name any of those alternatives? |
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| 13:44.08 | streuner_ | jelly-home: no idea, just ask Moritz? :-) |
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| 13:44.29 | jelly-home | streuner_: that's what I thought! |
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| 13:44.36 | Woet | what is the point of aircrack besides stealing internet from people who don't want you to? |
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| 13:44.39 | inigo | the bot lists weplab and pyrit (both packaged here in wheezy) |
| 13:44.44 | Iridos | streuner_, I was just reading that bug and after removal a lot of people disagree |
| 13:44.45 | anigma | Woet: no, Xen. |
| 13:45.08 | Woet | anigma: odd, then the hostnode kernel should be separated. are you sure it's squeeze with a squeeze kernel? |
| 13:45.13 | jelly-home | Woet: pen.testing people who pay you to |
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| 13:45.48 | Woet | jelly-home: what does aircrack tell you that you can't tell by just looking at the wireless network? |
| 13:46.16 | Iridos | jelly-home, as inigo said... the factoid names pyrit and weplab... and so does the aforementioned bug |
| 13:46.23 | anigma | Woet: pretty sure. |
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| 13:46.25 | Iridos | we don't have to agree, though |
| 13:46.29 | Woet | anigma: uname -a? |
| 13:46.39 | Woet | anigma: and /etc/debian_version |
| 13:46.44 | jelly-home | Woet: it's not about telling, it's about gaining access. |
| 13:46.53 | Woet | jelly-home: okay |
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| 13:47.45 | anigma | Woet: http://pastebin.com/Eu2Ri2pw and it's 6.0.4 |
| 13:48.09 | fasta | Debian removes packages often without any sensible reason. |
| 13:48.49 | Woet | anigma: very odd, what does ifconfig say? |
| 13:48.55 | fasta | The socalled reason provided by whoever submitted the bug report often has no relation whatsoever to reality. |
| 13:49.03 | sharpK | jelly-home, here's what I get running the command now: http://pastebin.com/319dRrgV |
| 13:49.47 | Iridos | anyway, seems aircrack-ng will be back... if it's not just bigmouthing |
| 13:49.50 | jelly-home | sharpK: the command got split into multiple lines somehow |
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| 13:49.57 | anigma | Woet: http://pastebin.com/i4BzuftS |
| 13:50.12 | Woet | anigma: how did you add ipv6? |
| 13:50.17 | anigma | Woet: and from where is that ipv6 generated? |
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| 13:50.24 | Woet | anigma: link local |
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| 13:50.40 | anigma | Woet: added a static ipv6 address to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:50.50 | Woet | anigma: show /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:51.00 | anigma | 2 secs |
| 13:51.05 | jelly-home | sharpK: do it in separate steps, then |
| 13:51.10 | jelly-home | sharpK: aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 13:51.27 | jelly-home | sharpK: echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
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| 13:51.46 | anigma | Woet: http://pastebin.com/bZK6VhkP |
| 13:51.53 | jelly-home | sharpK: update-initramfs -u |
| 13:52.01 | Woet | anigma: remove the pre-up line |
| 13:52.13 | Woet | anigma: because as mentioned, it's included in squeeze by default - you don't have to load it |
| 13:52.33 | jelly-home | sharpK: verify the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf look sane |
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| 13:53.14 | anigma | Woet: well, now I get this though: http://pastebin.com/My8AJVt7 |
| 13:53.35 | Woet | anigma: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
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| 13:54.15 | sharpK | jelly-home: possible they don't exist? http://pastebin.com/LhwEhpA6 |
| 13:54.22 | Woet | anigma: or reboot for good measure |
| 13:54.42 | anigma | Woet: that results in this: http://pastebin.com/yjbfT6b2 |
| 13:54.56 | Woet | anigma: what is your /etc/network/interfaces now? |
| 13:55.07 | jelly-home | sharpK: forgot to mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d? |
| 13:55.17 | anigma | same, but I removed the pre-up modprobe |
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| 13:55.33 | Woet | anigma: you removed the entire line right? |
| 13:55.41 | jelly-home | sharpK: does installing linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 work? |
| 13:56.10 | anigma | correct! |
| 13:56.14 | anigma | Woet: http://pastebin.com/rbr2W8gx |
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| 13:56.36 | sharpK | well, I just reran the dpkg command afte creating xorg.conf.d, so let me try to resstart, and see what happens, then I'll try tat iamge... |
| 13:56.47 | Woet | anigma: just reboot if you can |
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| 13:57.00 | anigma | Woet: sure thing. doing it now! |
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| 13:58.43 | sharpK | jelly-home blinking cursor on black screen is back, I'll delete xorg.conf.d in recovery mode, boot back into weird desktop, and try that new image |
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| 14:02.45 | anigma | Woet: looks like it's working. Managed to ping ipv6.google.com |
| 14:02.54 | Woet | anigma: yay |
| 14:03.13 | Woet | anigma: 64 bytes from 2605:6f00:877::e4b:6d2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=129 ms |
| 14:03.15 | anigma | Woet: one more thing. That local link. Is that necessary? Can I remove it for good? |
| 14:03.52 | Woet | anigma: i'm not too sure, i've always left it there |
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| 14:04.24 | Woet | anigma: they are required |
| 14:04.32 | Woet | "In IPv6, link-local addresses are mandatory and required for the internal functioning of various protocol components.' |
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| 14:04.54 | anigma | Woet: ah! |
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| 14:05.29 | anigma | Woet: if I wanted to, could I have added my ipv6 address to another interface, ie. eth0:1 ? |
| 14:08.38 | Woet | anigma: never tried that either, but no harm in trying yourself :) |
| 14:09.23 | sharpK | jelly-home, just installed that headers package, here's the output: http://pastebin.com/re1VFFzX |
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| 14:09.38 | sharpK | jelly-home, and restarted, but everything is the same, weird resolution desktop... |
| 14:12.07 | anigma | Woet: mkey. I appreciate the help, though! |
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| 14:12.56 | jelly-home | sharpK: notice the driver failed to build. |
| 14:13.30 | sharpK | jelly-home, right, is it because it's 195? |
| 14:13.32 | jelly-home | sharpK: COLUMNS=132 dpkg -l \*nvidia\* | grep '^.i' |
| 14:13.38 | jelly-home | sharpK: probably |
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| 14:14.28 | jelly-home | sharpK: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 14:16.25 | diverdude | Im trying to install nvidia drivers on a lenovo W520 which has 2 graphiccards as shown in this terminal output: bin.cakephp.org/view/329506174. When i try to install the drivers and reboot the system hangs and cannot start up. So i have to go to recoverymode and delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which then enables me to boot the system...but with very poor graphic capabilities. How can i fix it so that the system is running with optimal NVIDIA |
| 14:16.26 | diverdude | drivers? Please someone help. |
| 14:16.58 | sharpK | jelly-home, think it built: http://pastebin.com/7dvRuV3h |
| 14:17.11 | sharpK | jelly-home, let me try and restart and see |
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| 14:18.13 | jelly-home | sharpK: you'll probably want to upgrade the rest of the dpkg -l \*nvidia\* | grep '^.i' packages to the versions from squeeze-backports, so they all match |
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| 14:18.50 | abrotman | diverdude: you sohuld also tell us which version of Debian you have and where you got your nvidia drivers |
| 14:19.40 | sharpK | jelly-home, well, something happenned, sort of. it booted into desktop, no longer the stretchy weird, resolution, just a low resolution, and no longer outputting to the TV |
| 14:19.47 | sharpK | jelly-home could be progress... |
| 14:20.07 | sharpK | jelly-home, how do I know which ones to replace with the backports? |
| 14:20.39 | sharpK | jelly-home, hmm, nvidia settings saying the thing about no xorg.conf file, let me try to create it and see if I can boot into desktop with that... |
| 14:20.51 | sharpK | now that it's displaying a different way |
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| 14:21.14 | diverdude | abrotman: the thing is im actually on linux minut...but nobody in the mint or ubuntu channel can help me on the issue, so i was hoping a debian person maybe could |
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| 14:21.29 | abrotman | diverdude: we don't support Mint or Ubuntu .. try ##linux |
| 14:22.07 | abrotman | diverdude: you're offtopic in this channel, and you can be banned, please go back to the Mint channel or try ##linux, or maybe even #nvidia |
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| 14:22.47 | sharpK | jelly-home, dang still the cursor, OK, should I dpkg -l | grep nvidia and apt-get them from back ports? |
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| 14:23.21 | jelly-home | sharpK: those that are already installed, yeah, something like that |
| 14:24.05 | sharpK | jelly-home, for current and future reference, would i have to apt-get remove those packages before using the backports apt-get, or would the backport apt-get get rid of them by itself? |
| 14:24.28 | jelly-home | sharpK: just install the newer ones. |
| 14:24.44 | sharpK | jelly-home thanks, I'll try all that now... |
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| 14:30.53 | project2501b | hey guys, if i want to know about semaphores, where do i start reading, please? i need to find out what CAP_IPC_OWNER is all about |
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| 14:34.34 | inigo | project2501b, man capabilities |
| 14:34.52 | SteppenWolf- | I have an Acer Aspire 7530G laptop, and when running Debian or Fedora, the laptop turns off because the OS cannot control the fan speed. |
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| 14:37.50 | project2501b | inigo: ta :) |
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| 14:42.37 | sharpK | jelly-home, success! graphics drivers seem to work, and while there is still not sound over HDMI, I can see the device (after I installed pulseaudio), now I just have to figure how to get it to produce sound and I'll be home free :) |
| 14:43.43 | jelly-home | sharpK: I spent some 4 hours over 3-4 days setting up HDMI on Nvidia. It's not pretty. |
| 14:44.13 | sharpK | jelly-home, probably not, but atleast I can see my device in aplay -l now... the video is outputting perfectly... |
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| 14:44.34 | sharpK | jelly-home, were yours also audio problems? |
| 14:44.52 | chris2 | hi. we're thinking of upgrading a server from 2.6.32 stable to 2.6.36 backports. anything we need to take care of? |
| 14:45.25 | jelly-home | sharpK: no. I didn't have a device to output hdmi audio until recently. |
| 14:45.30 | dvs | chris2: a production server? I assume you mean just the kernel. |
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| 14:46.59 | sharpK | jelly-home, did you encounter issues with that audio device? |
| 14:47.18 | sharpK | what's that command to produce noise on a selected sound device? |
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| 14:48.29 | jelly-home | speaker-test |
| 14:48.38 | ratatata | nu |
| 14:48.52 | fasta | Is there a program in which I input a place on the world, a time locally to that place and give it back the time locally to me? |
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| 14:49.13 | jelly-home | sharpK: YES I encountered issues. That's why it took 4 hours. |
| 14:49.21 | fasta | There are lots of web-services, but I would like to have something locally. |
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| 14:50.04 | sharpK | jelly-home, oh. got it. well, taking your helpfulness into account today, should take me no longer than a few weeks :) ... |
| 14:50.06 | johnLAPACHE | Hi, i format my /home accidentally in ext4. Do you know a good recovery tool ? |
| 14:51.11 | no_gravity | Hello! Whats the current linux way of compressing a directory? "tar -zcvf my_folder.tar.gz my_folder"? Does that compress with maximum compression? |
| 14:51.43 | chris2 | dvs: yes |
| 14:52.04 | chris2 | dvs: its half-way production, but we dont have a good way to reboot it remotely right now |
| 14:52.27 | sharpK | jelly-home, was there a specific/guide/thread/howto that helped you at all? |
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| 14:56.29 | jelly-home | sharpK: the docs ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/gpu-hdmi-audio-document/gpu-hdmi-audio.html |
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| 14:58.43 | sharpK | jelly-home, thanks, I'll check it out, and thanks for all your help... |
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| 15:09.58 | arjun_ | johnLAPACHE, TestDisk. |
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| 15:22.24 | vinvin | hello I just tried to update my lenny system, and I see that there are some package upgrades, but I'm not able to find any news of distribution update and the security has been stopped on this version, so where do these package come from and why please? |
| 15:23.49 | dvs | !tell vinvin about lenny |
| 15:24.00 | vinvin | thanks |
| 15:24.06 | dvs | np |
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| 15:24.24 | vinvin | well that does not answer my question |
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| 15:24.59 | Eninem | bitches don't know about my security patches |
| 15:25.01 | jelly-home | vinvin: can you show your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
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| 15:25.07 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 15:25.07 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
| 15:25.11 | vinvin | yes |
| 15:26.22 | vinvin | deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 15:26.23 | vinvin | deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib |
| 15:26.27 | vinvin | that's all |
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| 15:27.45 | dvs | vinvin: and, as dpkg said, lenny is no longer supported. Those repos won't be updated anymore. |
| 15:27.55 | jelly-home | vinvin: seems correct. and what does and "aptitude -s full-upgrade" say? Please use a pastebin this time. |
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| 15:28.04 | sharpK | trying to install a package and keep getting more and more depends, is tehre anyway to apt-get and install all depends that may come up? |
| 15:28.29 | vinvin | dvs: that's why I ask why there are updates now and not last week |
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| 15:29.49 | vinvin | jelly-home: I dont have the aptitude command |
| 15:30.08 | vinvin | isn't this like apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 15:32.36 | jelly-home | vinvin: it is, just don't omit -s |
| 15:35.26 | vinvin | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/159218/ |
| 15:36.09 | vinvin | what's with the 5lenny11? on packages.debian.org it's said it's currently 5lenny10 |
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| 15:36.48 | jelly-home | read the changelog. aptitude changelog base-files=5lenny11 |
| 15:36.52 | jelly-home | oh snap! |
| 15:37.29 | nodiscc | hello people, I have gnome-terminal crashing when i run it on several machines. Only thing it returns is "floating point exection". How can I debug this ? |
| 15:37.58 | jelly-home | vinvin: oldstable releases often get a final point release after the security support is gone. http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2012/02/msg00131.html |
| 15:38.00 | nodiscc | it works on my laptop which has the very same setup |
| 15:39.27 | ekix | hi. is there an elegant way to remove all the packages that were installed by running `apt-get install <some packages>`? |
| 15:39.55 | ekix | something like `apt-get remove --what-was-installed-the-last-time-you-ran-apt-get-install` |
| 15:40.07 | Nik0s | check your apt log |
| 15:40.17 | Nik0s | and you can see what was installed last |
| 15:40.19 | ekix | Nik0s, an elegant way? :) |
| 15:40.25 | Nik0s | read log :P |
| 15:41.30 | Nik0s | and when you remove the package, all automatically installed packages that dont depend on the package you installed, will be removed |
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| 15:50.16 | vinvin | jelly-home: yes that's what I thought but I wasn't able to find a notification, sorry |
| 15:50.18 | ekix | Nik0s, you probably meant to say "that depend on the package you installed"? |
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| 15:50.31 | Nik0s | i dont know what i said :p |
| 15:50.41 | ekix | Nik0s, me neither :D |
| 15:51.08 | Nik0s | no i meant all packages that dont depend on the packages installed |
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| 15:52.43 | vinvin | maybe try with deborphan Nik0s |
| 15:53.00 | Nik0s | im not the one asking vinvin |
| 15:53.10 | vinvin | eh sorry |
| 15:53.22 | vinvin | ekix ^ |
| 15:53.56 | vinvin | deborphan lists packages that were installed as a dependency and that are not required anymore |
| 15:54.59 | Nik0s | isnt that the same as aptitude search ~g? |
| 15:55.02 | ekix | vinvin, i actually know that already. i asked if there is an elegant way. but thanks anyway :) |
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| 15:55.18 | vinvin | i don't know I don't know anything about aptitude |
| 15:55.42 | vinvin | isn't deborphan elegant? apt-get remove `deborphan` is not so ugly |
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| 15:56.36 | Nik0s | vinvin what does `` do? |
| 15:57.00 | vinvin | oh ok it's the new dselect |
| 15:57.39 | bitHipy | I'm not finding documentation on ipsec.. I looked in /usr/share/doc/ipsec/, and there's only a summary of what it is |
| 15:57.40 | vinvin | Nik0s: it evaluates what's inside and gives the output to the command line of the other, like $(deborphan) does since we're talking about that |
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| 15:57.53 | Nik0s | ok |
| 15:57.54 | jelly-home | vinvin: it's not jsut dselect, it's also a CLI replacement for most of apt-* stuff |
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| 15:57.56 | sunbeam | how can I best format an external usb hdd with gparted live cd? |
| 15:58.05 | bitHipy | anywhere else to look? manpage doesn't cover options |
| 15:58.11 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell vinvin about why aptitude |
| 15:58.18 | vinvin | why is apt replaced? |
| 15:58.26 | vinvin | ok |
| 15:58.31 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell vinvin about why not aptitude |
| 15:58.33 | jelly-home | :-) |
| 15:58.56 | Nik0s | dpkg, tell me about why not aptitude |
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| 15:59.08 | Nik0s | dpkg, tell Nik0s about why not aptitude |
| 15:59.19 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell Nik0s about msg the bot |
| 15:59.30 | vinvin | never had issues with apt- dependencies in the past 5 years I think |
| 15:59.32 | Nik0s | :) |
| 15:59.39 | vinvin | and it's already slow enough |
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| 16:00.09 | vinvin | s/dependencies/conflicts resolution/ |
| 16:00.55 | jelly-home | vinvin: that's because you never upgraded to anything newer than lenny |
| 16:01.56 | vinvin | I have, on some computers, upgraded to 6, and I don't remember having issues |
| 16:02.11 | vinvin | having had issues |
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| 16:03.43 | Teow | how do you configure a static IPv6 address in a preseed file? |
| 16:03.51 | Teow | or is it impossible since the debian installer doesn't allow you to configure IPv6? |
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| 16:05.22 | anoob | terminal just shows "$" without username as usually ... |
| 16:05.32 | anoob | and autocomplete isn't working ... |
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| 16:06.06 | tremon | Teow, Woet: use preseed/late_command to execute an arbitrary script |
| 16:06.22 | Woet | tremon: yes, i can do that, but there is no way to do it in proper preseed i assume? |
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| 16:08.07 | tremon | Woet: not that I know of |
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| 16:08.58 | fortpark | hello |
| 16:09.07 | fortpark | how do test recording with alsa |
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| 16:09.59 | tremon | !tell fortpark about alsa-checklist |
| 16:10.31 | fortpark | recording |
| 16:11.04 | tremon | hmm... not sure about recording. arecord? |
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| 16:16.41 | dvs | fortpark: audacity? |
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| 16:24.00 | Whiskey | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc-ares-dev <---- does it not comming whit any documantation? |
| 16:24.11 | Whiskey | i don´t find any in my system under /usr/share/doc/ |
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| 16:27.27 | cro | is there any way to let reprerpro populate the dists directory with files instead of letting it create a pool directory on reprepro includedeb? |
| 16:28.10 | cro | It creates the Release, Packages and Contents file in dists but puts all the packages in pool. |
| 16:28.19 | cro | strange. How can that be? |
| 16:28.41 | cro | It can`t work with apt that way I believe. |
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| 16:31.00 | ansgar | cro: I don't think reprepro supports having packages outside of pool/. |
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| 16:32.53 | cro | is there any automatic way to unlink an assimilated package from my incoming-tmp/*.deb directory or will I have to do that manually? return value? search for file in pool? |
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| 16:33.09 | Whiskey | how do you search for files in terminal |
| 16:33.11 | cro | don`t wanna delete a file that could not be assimilated. |
| 16:33.17 | cro | find |
| 16:34.15 | Whiskey | its not find that when i type it |
| 16:34.36 | valdyn | Whiskey: man find |
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| 16:34.52 | cro | I know find but it seems to be very inefficient |
| 16:35.05 | cro | return value is not direly documented |
| 16:35.18 | cro | so on what to do |
| 16:35.34 | cro | I can`t duplicate all the packages (disk space) |
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| 16:37.33 | cro | and what in case of a version conflict |
| 16:37.38 | cro | let me see... |
| 16:38.26 | _Mikey | Hi guys |
| 16:38.50 | _Mikey | I installed a development version of wxWidgets on my system from source |
| 16:38.51 | cro | hi |
| 16:38.55 | _Mikey | how can I remove it? |
| 16:39.04 | valdyn | _Mikey: we cant know |
| 16:39.11 | cro | There is this CleanUp option for incoming files ... |
| 16:39.12 | _Mikey | oh |
| 16:39.12 | dvs | _Mikey: rm |
| 16:39.26 | _Mikey | rm everything |
| 16:39.35 | cro | but I don`t think it is used for assimilating *.deb? |
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| 16:39.38 | valdyn | _Mikey: rm the right files |
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| 16:39.55 | _Mikey | hmm I'll give it a shot. |
| 16:40.10 | cro | May I use something like processincoming instead of includedeb? |
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| 16:40.51 | Iridos | _Mikey, that's what the packaging system is for... it keeps track of installed files and removes them again... if you install from source you gotta do its job yourself |
| 16:41.47 | Whiskey | hmm |
| 16:41.50 | _Mikey | ok, If I used make install |
| 16:41.56 | Whiskey | it mos tbe stored somewhere |
| 16:42.00 | Whiskey | i can´t find it |
| 16:42.03 | _Mikey | it should just only run things in that folder right? |
| 16:42.08 | cro | Does includedeb cp or ln? |
| 16:42.16 | cro | I fear it does a cp. |
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| 16:43.42 | cro | any alternative for reprepro (I just wanna create a Contents-arch file; the others can be created by dpkg-scanpackges & co) |
| 16:43.46 | cro | ? |
| 16:44.06 | cro | apt-move? |
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| 16:44.12 | cro | can anyone recommend it? |
| 16:44.13 | Iridos | _Mikey, no... usually installs in /bin or /usr/bin /usr/share/man and lots of other fun places... I generally only install with PREFIX=/usr/local/programname, then everything is installed there, but you have to take an extra-effort to make everything available on the system |
| 16:44.30 | ansgar | cro: cp. hard links are problematic (other processes can have open file descriptors to the files). |
| 16:45.05 | cro | just wanna reorder a collection of *.deb binaries |
| 16:45.28 | cro | at the moment no repo-syncing, no source compilation uploads etc. |
| 16:45.54 | cro | apt-ftparchive? |
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| 16:47.14 | cro | what about reordering the standard repos? |
| 16:47.27 | cro | should I use the overrides from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/indices/? |
| 16:48.14 | cro | The overrides just affect the Packages.gz, right? |
| 16:48.51 | cro | i.e. they do not alter the included .deb-s? |
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| 16:49.27 | cro | may I use and copy them for an own repo? recommendable? |
| 16:50.49 | cro | what about http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags and overrides? |
| 16:51.22 | cro | can I download overrides for standard packages from there? |
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| 16:52.04 | bambanx | sup |
| 16:52.46 | bambanx | guys i have windows and debian on my pc when i installed debian i can see windows on my boot how can i fix this? |
| 16:53.34 | dvs | bambanx: I think you have to rephrase your question. |
| 16:53.47 | cro | what? the windows instead of the debian bootloader? |
| 16:54.25 | cro | perhaps you have two hard disks and have installed the debian loader into the wrong one. |
| 16:55.31 | cro | btw.: you can choose another hdd to boot from in your BIOS settings. |
| 16:56.57 | bambanx | i have both installed on the same disk i need fix the grub |
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| 16:57.14 | cro | update-grub |
| 16:57.24 | cro | or the graphics menu of the boot cd |
| 16:57.45 | cro | expert graphics mode restore/configure settings |
| 16:57.57 | hid3 | Hello everyone. Is there CVSup package for Debian? |
| 16:58.02 | cro | or something thelike is the boot menu entry to select |
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| 16:58.45 | cro | I thought that CVSup was programmed in Modula-3 |
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| 16:59.04 | cro | They have packaged it on FreeBSD afaik |
| 16:59.16 | bambanx | cro, updateb-grub say bash: update-grub dont find the order |
| 16:59.22 | bambanx | sorry for my english |
| 16:59.24 | cro | www.m3.org -ezm3 |
| 16:59.34 | cro | there you can get and compile it. |
| 16:59.46 | hid3 | cro: yes, but I've heard about csup (reprogrammed in C) |
| 17:00.01 | hid3 | I'm looking particulary for a debian package |
| 17:00.08 | hid3 | compiling is a worst case scenario |
| 17:00.09 | ChrisH | Has dpkg any help on adding Firmware to testing netinst CD? currently my installer hangs on detecting network hardware (eepro 100 and Atheros L1 installed) |
| 17:00.50 | cro | no I think firmware is often proprietary |
| 17:01.02 | bambanx | cro can you help me buddy? |
| 17:01.08 | cro | you can copy the firmware file from the proprietary driver into the right directory |
| 17:01.24 | cro | and it will often work without having to compile a proprietary driver |
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| 17:02.41 | LordShiva | Did anyone of you tried some voice to desktop to command program on linux is there a such package |
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| 17:03.00 | wynn | Can the BSD version of Debian add user metadata to files? I think I heard ZFS can do this... |
| 17:03.12 | LordShiva | I know for open mind speech and some others but none is quite speech to command ... |
| 17:03.26 | valdyn | wynn: what is that "user metadata" supposed to be? |
| 17:04.22 | wynn | I think it was called properties... I'm looking to put a category on files that I can query later. (e.g. Mystery for certain ebooks.... etc..) |
| 17:04.29 | wynn | Valdyn: |
| 17:04.50 | LordShiva | That could be nice project in future I mean some sort of Intelligent assistant ... could help to new users ... I mean something better than siri :) |
| 17:04.59 | LordShiva | Anyone interested in such package ... |
| 17:05.50 | valdyn | wynn: nice idea, but theres likely better solutions when about no software supports this kind of metadata |
| 17:06.40 | valdyn | wynn: or whats the point when your ebook reader cant use those tags? |
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| 17:07.36 | wynn | valdyn: What type of software do you know of for this? I have lots of files that ideally should be tagged with multiple labels, like gmail does to email. I had heard that zfs supports properties and apple's filesystem allowed custom user metadata. |
| 17:07.57 | LordShiva | what ebook reader fbreader wynn |
| 17:08.06 | valdyn | wynn: none |
| 17:08.10 | wynn | valdyn: It's not for the reader, it was just an example. I want to query from a shell. |
| 17:08.43 | wynn | I would like to query for all my files that I have read, or have given a rating to, or whatever. |
| 17:08.51 | valdyn | wynn: considering that debian/freebsd has to use debian userland.. i would think it cant be well supported |
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| 17:09.43 | wynn | Do you know that zfs properties do not support this, or is this a supposition? |
| 17:10.01 | valdyn | wynn: I dont claim to know a thing about zfs. |
| 17:10.17 | valdyn | wynn: im just saying that i dont see debian userland supporting this |
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| 17:11.42 | wynn | valdyn: OK. I was hoping the debian userland would take advantage of zfs features (if this is in fact a feature). Do you happen to know what filesystem is used by default for Debian BSD? |
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| 17:13.42 | valdyn | wynn: nope |
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| 17:14.01 | wynn | valdyn: OK. Thanks. Have a good day! |
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| 17:14.38 | littlegirl | Hey there, is there a debian KDE channel? |
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| 17:16.19 | un214__tty2 | test |
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| 17:16.39 | un214__tty2 | all right, who decided that root can't use irc again? |
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| 17:18.09 | qdb | hello. i said about alt +ctrl bug. now i think seems it happens if i press ctrl alt f1 immediately after login into gnome. may be i ll report this with command of bug report... |
| 17:18.09 | valdyn | un214__tty2: no one did |
| 17:18.59 | un214__tty2 | when I join #debian as root (I set my nick to something else) I get *** Cannot send to channel when I try to chat |
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| 17:20.33 | un214__tty2 | there see it |
| 17:20.40 | un214__tty2 | un214__tty1 cannot chat |
| 17:20.51 | ansgar | un214__tty2: So what? |
| 17:21.32 | un214__tty2 | the only difference is that one runs with UID=0 |
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| 17:23.02 | tremon | un214__tty2: it's probably that past experience has proven that people who run as root are not likely to listen to advice, even if they asked for it |
| 17:23.07 | ansgar | un214__tty2: Then don't. Problem solved. |
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| 17:24.08 | un214__tty2 | yeah well the server shouldn't even know |
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| 17:24.56 | bambanx | where in the all hell iceweasel put my downloads? |
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| 17:26.11 | avar | bambanx: in ~/Downloads ? |
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| 17:26.53 | bambanx | is not avar :/ |
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| 17:27.14 | avar | well go to about:downloads, click on "show in filesystem" or whatever that option is. |
| 17:27.28 | avar | or search for download in about:config |
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| 17:29.00 | bambanx | how i can kill icew... ? |
| 17:29.21 | un214 | killall icew |
| 17:31.14 | simonlnu | "open containing folder" |
| 17:31.16 | Whiskey | how do you remove a folder whit files in it |
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| 17:31.28 | Whiskey | in terminal, when i do rmdir it tells me that is not empty but i allredy know that |
| 17:31.33 | simonlnu | !folder |
| 17:31.34 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
| 17:31.54 | simonlnu | rm -rf OR rm the files first then rmdir |
| 17:32.15 | simonlnu | BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE rm -rf COMMAND |
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| 17:32.42 | simonlnu | Whiskey: ^^^ |
| 17:32.44 | Whiskey | thx |
| 17:32.44 | un214 | they say these days that rm -rf / just displays an error message but you probably don't want to find out |
| 17:32.56 | Whiskey | its a uato isntall script |
| 17:33.02 | simonlnu | i wouldn't mess with that either... |
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| 17:33.03 | Whiskey | its just remove the source folder when its done :d |
| 17:33.39 | Whiskey | so can´t be that bad :D |
| 17:34.05 | simonlnu | un214: if you wanna test, set up a chroot so you don't do any damage |
| 17:34.09 | un214 | Whiskey: rm -rf (wildcard) is very deadly |
| 17:34.39 | Whiskey | hmmm |
| 17:34.40 | bambanx | i installed google chrome :) |
| 17:34.45 | simonlnu | it's more cautious to specify the directory, and act locally (relative) |
| 17:34.49 | Whiskey | wll |
| 17:34.56 | Whiskey | rm -rf folder |
| 17:35.01 | Whiskey | can´t be bad |
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| 17:35.10 | un214 | I do it that way as well |
| 17:35.11 | Whiskey | in this case its actully |
| 17:35.23 | un214 | I do not do rm -rf folde* |
| 17:35.29 | Whiskey | rm -rf $HOME/folder |
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| 17:37.05 | simonlnu | i got bit once, i don't ever want to repeat that |
| 17:37.22 | un214 | simonlnu: been there |
| 17:37.23 | simonlnu | havign to restore the entirety of /bin is no fun |
| 17:37.28 | simonlnu | having* |
| 17:37.51 | un214 | In my case it was some data files. Running strings /dev/hda5 saved the day |
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| 17:38.47 | simonlnu | luckily i was already on irc, and someone else with the same arch was there. was really tricky to unpack the whole thing properly ^^ |
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| 17:38.58 | simonlnu | was running ppc mainly at the time |
| 17:39.19 | un214 | simonlnu: isn't that what keeping a rescue disk on hand is for? |
| 17:39.48 | simonlnu | was someone i knew wouldn't screw me. yes, but i didn't have the drive space nor extra disks or backup media at the time. different now. |
| 17:40.41 | bambanx | guys google spy all we navigate now? |
| 17:41.10 | Woet | bambanx: yes, they keep massive lists of every URL you go to and every word you type |
| 17:41.20 | simonlnu | took me a moment to parse that. um, yes, they have since a long time. they're just more blatant about it. |
| 17:41.22 | Woet | chrome is essentially a keylogger but they make it appear like a browser |
| 17:41.33 | un214 | bambanx: keeping nukes on standby is a good idea |
| 17:41.47 | simonlnu | Woet: hehe |
| 17:42.14 | bambanx | damn |
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| 17:42.33 | Woet | privacy is overrated |
| 17:42.35 | bambanx | its mean they know i am watching porn? |
| 17:42.38 | bambanx | lol |
| 17:42.49 | Woet | they know everything |
| 17:42.49 | simonlnu | now everyone else does... |
| 17:43.00 | simonlnu | sighs |
| 17:43.15 | un214 | they can be deceived |
| 17:43.38 | bambanx | we have a alternative to google? |
| 17:43.54 | simonlnu | an alternative, yes, several |
| 17:43.59 | un214 | simulated background radation |
| 17:44.04 | bambanx | what is good alternative? |
| 17:44.27 | un214 | 1: not using chrome |
| 17:44.43 | un214 | 2: using no less than 6 different search engines depending on |
| 17:44.48 | un214 | what you are searching for |
| 17:45.02 | un214 | 3: purging all cookies every day |
| 17:45.14 | un214 | 4: running an open wifi |
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| 17:45.59 | bambanx | exist a good search engine open source project? |
| 17:46.09 | simonlnu | running open wifi? |
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| 17:46.22 | simonlnu | o_O |
| 17:46.28 | un214 | so that simple ip aggregation breaks badly enough they can't use it |
| 17:46.31 | bambanx | i dunno what is open wifi |
| 17:47.03 | un214 | bambanx: it means setting up a wireless access point with access to internet with no security |
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| 17:54.04 | optraz | where is the settings to configure so when my computer idle, it wont goes into sleep mode? (becuase when it is in sleep mode, the netowrk disconnected which i do *not* want that to happen) |
| 17:54.52 | un214 | beats me I don't use that stuff |
| 17:55.05 | un214 | I didn't have power management at all until I changed power button to hibernate |
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| 17:58.32 | qwertz | Hi, I want to add another virtual ip to a running master-slave keepalived setup. How would I have to proceed? Add the IP to both configs, restart the keepalive master and then the slave? |
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| 18:01.03 | buyoq | hello,wanna ask a quick question..i've typed in w in my vps and it said 2 users but i think i'm the only one connected to my box |
| 18:01.13 | buyoq | any idea why ? |
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| 18:01.37 | kind0vaz_ | what are you running on your server beside OS |
| 18:01.39 | kind0vaz_ | any application? |
| 18:01.55 | kind0vaz_ | and what's the 2nd username there |
| 18:02.00 | kind0vaz_ | same like the 1 u use to login |
| 18:02.00 | buyoq | lots.. |
| 18:02.17 | buyoq | nginx,mysql,php,ptptd etc2.. |
| 18:02.39 | buyoq | u mean ? |
| 18:02.55 | kind0vaz_ | where it's logged in from ? |
| 18:03.01 | kind0vaz_ | there should be a IP there |
| 18:03.06 | jelly-home | buyoq: can you pastebin the complete output of the w command? |
| 18:03.12 | un214 | boyoq: run who |
| 18:03.34 | buyoq | who = buyoq pts/1 Mar 10 21:58 (203.82.90.51) |
| 18:04.05 | buyoq | wait i'll paste the complete output in pastebin |
| 18:04.16 | langkid1 | what's the max RAM debian 6 server x64 supports? |
| 18:04.31 | buyoq | w = http://pastebin.com/ybRyry2G |
| 18:04.35 | un214 | isn't that > 64GB? |
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| 18:05.21 | buyoq | tried ps aux aswell,no abnormal processes running.. |
| 18:06.02 | buyoq | any idea ? |
| 18:06.19 | un214 | do you have an X instance? |
| 18:06.19 | buyoq | heh.i'm a bit phobia here..my server been rooted 2 days ago |
| 18:06.35 | thewanderer1 | langkid1, 1TB on early AMD64 arch, 256TB on later processors |
| 18:06.38 | buyoq | nope.no X.console only |
| 18:06.43 | langkid1 | ah ok |
| 18:07.18 | un214 | i'd say it's time to be nervous again |
| 18:07.38 | buyoq | duh?AGAIN ?? |
| 18:07.59 | tremon | "still" is more likely than again... |
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| 18:08.17 | un214 | if two users logged in and no X in site and who only shows 1 then an entry is being masked from utmp accounting |
| 18:08.34 | buyoq | damn..i just reinstall my box yesterday |
| 18:09.08 | buyoq | how do i secure my box then..arghh.. |
| 18:09.25 | elise-- | Keep it offline |
| 18:09.31 | jelly-home | buyoq: inspect the output or last -40 |
| 18:09.39 | jelly-home | buyoq: of* "last -40" command |
| 18:09.50 | buyoq | how do i check that |
| 18:09.53 | jelly-home | buyoq: or even "last | less" and scroll away |
| 18:10.19 | buyoq | how do i check that ? |
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| 18:10.25 | jelly-home | check what? |
| 18:10.29 | elise-- | Last is what? |
| 18:10.42 | buyoq | buyoq: inspect the output or last -40 |
| 18:10.49 | jelly-home | buyoq: it's a command. Run it. |
| 18:10.50 | buyoq | what do u mean by that ? heh |
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| 18:10.59 | jelly-home | then look at its output. |
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| 18:11.06 | elise-- | What's last show? |
| 18:11.08 | tremon | jelly-home: thx for that. didn't know a login history was kept, I've always been grepping log files :) |
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| 18:11.47 | buyoq | hmm |
| 18:11.55 | simonlnu | elise--: run it and see |
| 18:11.55 | tralala | is there a way to tell apt-get to install packages from a certain origin? something like -t realease, but with an origin? |
| 18:12.00 | buyoq | no one else but me |
| 18:12.02 | jelly-home | elise--: run "whatis last" or "man last", and find out |
| 18:12.21 | buyoq | just got one thing that is not like the others |
| 18:12.22 | buyoq | buyoq pts/0 203.82.92.101 Sat Mar 10 13:42 gone - no logout |
| 18:12.31 | buyoq | is it because of that ? |
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| 18:12.40 | jelly-home | buyoq: and that's why w thinks you're still there, yes |
| 18:12.41 | elise-- | I don't have a debian boxen yet |
| 18:12.53 | tremon | tralala: not directly, I think, unless you pin the origin. You can use apt-cache policy and then install package=explicit-version-from-origin |
| 18:12.57 | buyoq | ahhh i thought so.. |
| 18:13.06 | jelly-home | elise--: http://linux.die.net/man/1/last |
| 18:13.08 | buyoq | my home went blackout that time |
| 18:13.32 | thewanderer1 | hmmm, interesting - is logrotate broken there? |
| 18:13.34 | buyoq | ok then.thanks a lot.what a relieve.heh |
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| 18:13.50 | tralala | tremon: I have the origin pinned with a low priority so that it won't try to pull upgrades from there, but occasionally I want to install something from it and it does't pull the correct deps |
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| 18:15.31 | jelly-home | buyoq: if that is, or was, really your IP then it's probably just a typical corruption of the lastlog database (one of /var/log/[uw]tmp, can't remember which one) |
| 18:15.39 | tremon | ah, I see the problem. No easy workaround that I know of, other than not accepting the first solution and hoping aptitude will find the right dependencies with a subsequent solution |
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| 18:16.10 | buyoq | yah that is my IP |
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| 18:18.12 | elise-- | Are you guys saying he crashed and left a ghost login and now logging is broken? |
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| 18:18.16 | jelly-home | tremon: you can give hints to aptitude, telling it which bits of the current solution are acceptable or completely unacceptable |
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| 18:18.41 | jelly-home | elise--: that one entry is broken, yes |
| 18:18.41 | un214 | elise: he is |
| 18:19.02 | jelly-home | elise--: further logins/logouts work normally |
| 18:19.07 | elise-- | That's bad |
| 18:19.15 | tremon | tralala: ^^ see jelly-home's comment |
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| 18:19.19 | jelly-home | elise--: it happens very often |
| 18:19.23 | buyoq | a reboot should fix it i guess.. |
| 18:19.34 | elise-- | So is logging and that log in both broken? |
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| 18:20.02 | jelly-home | elise--: it's a stale entry in "w" output. All the systems work. |
| 18:20.10 | tremon | elise--: happens when ssh disconnects instead of logging out, for example |
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| 18:20.29 | simonlnu | it's a log, not a "manager" |
| 18:20.37 | elise-- | I know |
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| 18:20.48 | tralala | tremon: I see, thank you. |
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| 18:21.43 | Iridos | jelly-home, hints? how? |
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| 18:21.58 | Iridos | specify packages? |
| 18:22.09 | elise-- | But I'm confused, if a logout wasn't logged then is that user account treated as active and valid by the system? |
| 18:22.37 | jelly-home | Iridos: try ? next time when aptitude CLI suggests an imperfect solution |
| 18:22.46 | elise-- | Meaning currently logged in |
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| 18:23.24 | Iridos | jelly-home, it asks something? In Suqeeze? Typically it only asks "Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]" |
| 18:23.26 | tremon | elise--: there's two bits of information, the wtmp database and the list of active tty's. "gone" means active entry in wtmp but tty no longer active |
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| 18:23.57 | tremon | (i guess) |
| 18:24.25 | jelly-home | Iridos: yep. Do ? to see what else you can do |
| 18:25.08 | Iridos | jelly-home, can't stand aptitude, really |
| 18:25.23 | elise-- | Hmm |
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| 18:25.54 | jelly-home | Iridos: eg. consider http://paste.debian.net/159238/ -- you can accept or refuse either part 1) or 2) of the solution separately, then say "n", and aptitude takes that into account when searching further |
| 18:26.52 | jelly-home | Iridos: you can explicitely add a package for installation using +packagename |
| 18:26.55 | jelly-home | etc. |
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| 18:27.23 | Iridos | hm |
| 18:27.37 | jelly-home | it's nifty and usable, moreso than its GUI. IME. YMMV. |
| 18:27.38 | Iridos | how do you accept 1) |
| 18:27.43 | jelly-home | a 1 |
| 18:28.21 | jelly-home | a 1 3 4 5 to accept multiple suggestions |
| 18:28.21 | tremon | likes that aptitude can explain its solutions (ID:) |
| 18:28.23 | Iridos | well... I just did aptitude -f install and it wants to install a bunch of packages and remove another bunch |
| 18:28.38 | Iridos | when I do apt-get -f install it's content |
| 18:28.39 | jelly-home | well, don't let it ;-) |
| 18:28.58 | Iridos | not the first time that happened either |
| 18:29.12 | jelly-home | it often makes silly suggestions in inconsistent situations |
| 18:29.28 | jelly-home | sometimes tho, it makes better ones than apt-get |
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| 18:29.38 | Iridos | finally I do let it do its thing and look through... but overall I avoid it if apt-get can get the job done |
| 18:29.59 | elise-- | Inaptitude |
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| 18:30.18 | tremon | Iridos: my biggest gripe about aptitude is that its first solution is almost always a no-op |
| 18:30.38 | elise-- | Advertising? |
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| 18:31.00 | tremon | i.e. "aptitude install systemd/experimental" -> first solution is "keep systemd as [Not Installed]" |
| 18:31.21 | Iridos | looks like this http://paste.debian.net/159240/ (note the apt-get version on the bottom) |
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| 18:31.34 | Iridos | tremon, well, it's the obvious solution :D |
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| 18:31.56 | valdyn | tremon: clearly aptitude is not made for users who a) know better anyway or b) want to do silly stuff anyway |
| 18:32.04 | jelly-home | tremon: you really don't want to install systemd! |
| 18:32.07 | Iridos | tremon, you can do systemd/experimental instead of -t experimental? |
| 18:32.13 | jelly-home | it knows. |
| 18:32.17 | tremon | lol |
| 18:32.39 | elise-- | Wats system d |
| 18:32.51 | Iridos | valdyn, you mean... aptitude wants to a) know better anyway and b) do silly stuff all by its own? |
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| 18:33.11 | jelly-home | Iridos: -t ... applies to all the packages that are going to be installed, effectively overriding Default-Release for the command |
| 18:33.12 | Iridos | newer version of system c |
| 18:33.13 | valdyn | Iridos: i dont do humour |
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| 18:33.33 | Iridos | valdyn, I think you just did |
| 18:33.37 | valdyn | Iridos: i *really* have no use for aptitude |
| 18:33.50 | valdyn | I do a) and b) |
| 18:33.56 | jelly-home | Iridos: foo/release tries to install just that, but the dependencies are to be satisfied using the current settings |
| 18:34.12 | Iridos | I see |
| 18:34.31 | elise-- | Apt-get slax |
| 18:34.38 | Iridos | so I'll try to use that from now on preferred |
| 18:34.39 | elise-- | Hehehe |
| 18:35.15 | jelly-home | apt-get also has install with foo/release and foo=version |
| 18:35.48 | Iridos | I know pkg=version...but you always have to copy the version string, so it's less convenient |
| 18:36.08 | tremon | yes, pkg/sid is much easier :) |
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| 18:36.52 | Iridos | but backports got harder |
| 18:37.01 | Iridos | -t backports ---> -t squeeze-backports |
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| 18:37.44 | elise-- | Apt-get -rent studio, full kitchen, full bath, lots of windows |
| 18:38.27 | tremon | maybe the archive managers can add a release name for that, e.g. bpo -> stable-backports? |
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| 18:40.13 | dimir | s/indows/omen/ |
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| 18:40.38 | jelly-home | maybe they can use the word "update" for that as well, there's not enough confusion |
| 18:41.23 | jelly-home | stable-bpo-updates |
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| 18:42.49 | atan | My /etc/fstab currently looks like http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JFt9VWLf am I'm trying to setup usrquota. I'd hate to totally nuke anything and am trying to find out where exactly in this mess I would insert the usrquota bit. |
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| 18:46.16 | Whiskey | how do i change so $HOME not is /root when i use sudo? |
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| 18:46.39 | jelly-home | Whiskey: why would you do that?? |
| 18:47.04 | jelly-home | Whiskey: /root _is_ root's home directory. You don't want root files appearing elsewhere on the system. |
| 18:47.09 | Whiskey | my scirpt mess up my installs |
| 18:47.16 | Whiskey | yeh |
| 18:47.21 | Whiskey | but its fine if im in su |
| 18:47.22 | jelly-home | Whiskey: what is the script supposed to do? |
| 18:47.24 | Whiskey | but not sudo |
| 18:47.29 | Whiskey | installing ZNC |
| 18:47.39 | Whiskey | but when i do $HOME/znc its root/znc |
| 18:47.42 | Whiskey | enyogin |
| 18:48.03 | jelly-home | Whiskey: why do you need root at all to install it that way? |
| 18:48.23 | Whiskey | oo |
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| 18:48.28 | Whiskey | well it need oackage |
| 18:48.31 | Whiskey | packages |
| 18:48.41 | Whiskey | but i can do it another way maybe |
| 18:48.47 | jelly-home | packages do not install things in people's homes, Whiskey |
| 18:49.04 | Whiskey | no |
| 18:49.07 | Whiskey | but its needs sudo :D |
| 18:49.19 | jelly-home | Whiskey: to do what? |
| 18:49.26 | Whiskey | so i start it whit "sudo ./script.sh" |
| 18:49.32 | Whiskey | i told you install package thats its need |
| 18:49.36 | Whiskey | it supose to be automatic you now |
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| 18:49.49 | jelly-home | Whiskey: can you pastebin the whole thing? |
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| 18:49.57 | jelly-home | this does not make much sense |
| 18:50.05 | jelly-home | !tell Whiskey about paste |
| 18:50.20 | Whiskey | all i do is to write sudos pass and then it install it self for me whit all package it needs or choise |
| 18:50.28 | Whiskey | sure |
| 18:50.30 | tensorpudding | you might consider installing ZNC from the debian packages |
| 18:50.36 | Whiskey | never :d |
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| 18:50.58 | tensorpudding | if their install scripts are so bad you might have to edit it by hand |
| 18:51.07 | Whiskey | nooo |
| 18:51.10 | Whiskey | its my install script |
| 18:51.13 | Whiskey | i made it |
| 18:51.21 | tensorpudding | what? |
| 18:51.33 | Whiskey | i maked a install script for fun |
| 18:51.42 | Whiskey | to make it install itself whit all its neds |
| 18:51.58 | Whiskey | the only problem know its the $HOME |
| 18:52.17 | tensorpudding | if you run it as sudo, it will replace $HOME with /root, as is sane, and any other behavior is stupid |
| 18:52.26 | tensorpudding | and you should change your script accordingly |
| 18:52.36 | Whiskey | well |
| 18:52.44 | un214 | there's a walkback to get the origin user |
| 18:52.48 | jelly-home | Whiskey: still waiting for that pastebin |
| 18:52.52 | Whiskey | i guss i culd do home=pwd |
| 18:52.58 | Whiskey | ooo sorry |
| 18:53.03 | atan | Err, I'm good now. Docs ftw. Thanks :-) |
| 18:53.04 | tremon | Whiskey: so, how about passing $HOME as a parameter to your script and use $1? |
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| 18:53.06 | Whiskey | you relly sure you will see it |
| 18:53.11 | Whiskey | its 3 days wrok :D |
| 18:53.16 | jelly-home | you really sure you want any help? |
| 18:53.45 | Whiskey | jelly i got the slotion i think |
| 18:53.51 | jelly-home | ,versions znc |
| 18:53.52 | judd | Package: znc on i386 -- lenny: 0.058-2+lenny4; lenny-security: 0.058-2+lenny4; lenny-backports: 0.092-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.092-3; sid: 0.204-2; wheezy: 0.204-2 |
| 18:53.59 | tremon | opines that a script that is run as root should not mess with user's home dirs |
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| 18:54.08 | jelly-home | too bar there's no squeeze-backports |
| 18:54.15 | un214 | Whiskey: ~$SUDO_USER should do it |
| 18:54.20 | Whiskey | oo |
| 18:54.26 | Whiskey | 204 its the latest stable :D |
| 18:54.28 | Whiskey | noot bad :D |
| 18:54.35 | Whiskey | un214? |
| 18:54.36 | tensorpudding | hmm, actually, that is strange |
| 18:54.43 | un214 | but $SUDO_USER might not be set (e.g. invoked directly by root) |
| 18:54.45 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport znc |
| 18:54.46 | judd | Backporting package znc in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, squeeze-backports. |
| 18:54.53 | tensorpudding | sudo on debian uses /root, but sudo on ubuntu uses the original user |
| 18:55.04 | Whiskey | yeh thats bad : |
| 18:55.11 | un214 | it's an option |
| 18:55.16 | jelly-home | it's not bad, it's jsut different defaults |
| 18:55.23 | Whiskey | only reason i use debian is that i can install it whitout any crap |
| 18:55.31 | Whiskey | un214; what exactly does it? |
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| 18:56.01 | Whiskey | jelly what my script or what you talk about :D |
| 18:56.07 | un214 | an option in /etc/sudoers |
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| 18:56.29 | Whiskey | i don´t get a shit |
| 18:56.31 | Whiskey | lets see what it does |
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| 18:56.50 | tensorpudding | $SUDO_USER knows who the original user was, but finding that user's home directory in the general case isn't easy |
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| 18:57.00 | Whiskey | its empty |
| 18:57.13 | un214 | tensorpudding: ~username expands in bash to the homedir of username |
| 18:57.13 | Whiskey | what about |
| 18:57.37 | tensorpudding | oh, a bashism |
| 18:57.40 | tensorpudding | well, fine |
| 18:57.48 | Whiskey | -/home/$SUDO_USER/ |
| 18:57.55 | un214 | Whiskey: don't do that |
| 18:58.02 | Whiskey | kk |
| 18:58.12 | tensorpudding | actually, that didn't work |
| 18:58.19 | Whiskey | shuld be a var like $REAL_HOME |
| 18:58.43 | Whiskey | any way the script :D |
| 18:58.44 | Whiskey | http://codepad.org/wkPAROPP |
| 18:58.50 | tensorpudding | well |
| 18:59.06 | tensorpudding | it'd be intriguing if SUDO kept the original environment by tacking on a SUDO_* prefix |
| 18:59.35 | Whiskey | .. |
| 19:00.15 | tensorpudding | but it only has SUDO_UID, SUDO_GID SUDO_COMMAND, and SUDO_USER |
| 19:00.43 | Whiskey | :P |
| 19:00.45 | tremon | Whiskey: line 400 will never work |
| 19:00.45 | un214 | Whoikey: I'm working on it |
| 19:00.45 | jelly-home | Whiskey: ah. So your script fetches the build-dependencies, builds and installs znc from source. |
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| 19:00.59 | Whiskey | yeh |
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| 19:01.21 | Whiskey | i has to mutch dead time and wanne lurn something new:D never work whit bash before :D |
| 19:01.34 | tensorpudding | wow, that is a lot of bash |
| 19:01.36 | Whiskey | mkkk lets see whats on 300 |
| 19:01.39 | un214 | Whiskey: this does it |
| 19:02.09 | Whiskey | you culd vars to all dependies espect one i think |
| 19:02.27 | Whiskey | that wuld make it alot smaller :D but i not thinked about that before :D and like it this way :) |
| 19:02.42 | un214 | echo `echo echo\ \~@${SUDO_USER} | tr -d '@' | bash` |
| 19:03.17 | Whiskey | i know that not work termon :D |
| 19:03.28 | Whiskey | i just have it there so i not forget how to get swig insted of build it from source |
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| 19:03.58 | un214 | it turns out that ~$SUDO_USER won't expand directly for some reason |
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| 19:04.07 | Whiskey | that always work un :D |
| 19:04.20 | Whiskey | un something wrong m? |
| 19:04.27 | Whiskey | worked find in my terminal i think |
| 19:04.56 | un214 | good for you |
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| 19:05.11 | Whiskey | termon, if you have any suggestions how to slove that im wuld like to hear it :D |
| 19:05.18 | Nik0s | hey guys |
| 19:05.19 | Whiskey | un214; but you told me its something wrong on it? |
| 19:05.29 | un214 | dunno but it doesn't work for me |
| 19:05.35 | Nik0s | I was trying out some things with aptitude |
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| 19:05.45 | Whiskey | kk |
| 19:05.46 | Nik0s | and i saw that i had have a package `dialog' |
| 19:05.50 | Whiskey | :D |
| 19:05.58 | Nik0s | and it was tagged as automatically installed |
| 19:06.00 | Whiskey | yeh its a nice package :D |
| 19:06.33 | Nik0s | So i thought that packages that are marked as auto installed have another package installed that depends on it |
| 19:06.48 | jelly-home | Whiskey: now. If you want to do this the proper way for Debian, make a backport .deb instead. |
| 19:06.55 | Nik0s | but when i did aptitude remove dialog, it could remove dialog without breaking other packages |
| 19:07.30 | Nik0s | So how could it be tagged with `A' and not have any packages that depend on it |
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| 19:08.07 | Whiskey | jelly:im not fallow? |
| 19:08.15 | tremon | Nik0s: I think the keyword here is recommends |
| 19:08.22 | un214 | because they were autoinstalled but the package that brought them in is no longer present |
| 19:08.55 | Nik0s | yes un21 i thought that but wouldnt aptitude remove packages that dont have any dependancys? |
| 19:08.58 | jelly-home | Whiskey: you can make a real .deb package for znc instead. |
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| 19:09.11 | Nik0s | dependencies* |
| 19:09.11 | jelly-home | Whiskey: then just distribute that, and install with two commands. |
| 19:09.35 | un214 | Oh that's right I turned off recommends years ago |
| 19:09.44 | jelly-home | Whiskey: this tells you how that can be done: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 19:10.24 | Whiskey | msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:11.06 | Whiskey | don´t get a shit :D |
| 19:11.06 | CookieJar | is there really over 1000 people in here? |
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| 19:11.27 | jelly-home | Whiskey: you forgot the / |
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| 19:11.27 | ben1066 | does debians linux kernel compile with the msr module? |
| 19:11.48 | FDFlock | msr? |
| 19:11.57 | ben1066 | machine specific register |
| 19:12.06 | FDFlock | oh.... no idea |
| 19:12.12 | jelly-home | ,kconfig X86_MSR |
| 19:12.13 | judd | Searching for 'X86_MSR' in squeeze kernel config gives X86_MSR=m. |
| 19:12.17 | jelly-home | ben1066: yes. |
| 19:12.24 | ben1066 | <3 |
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| 19:13.53 | Whiskey | yeh |
| 19:13.55 | Whiskey | i see that |
| 19:14.03 | Whiskey | but still don´t get what it says :/ |
| 19:15.10 | FDFlock | Hello everyone! A few days ago I had a major data loss problem (accidental "rm -r /home/...") and received some great advice from this channel. I managed to mount the partition read-only and took an image with dd. |
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| 19:15.15 | FDFlock | So, the question: Is there any reason NOT to mount it rw now? Something that might help recover the files? I suspect there isn't any, as long as I keep that dd image. Just asking to confirm. |
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| 19:16.20 | Whiskey | see if i can get it to install both hime or another folder if i like :D |
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| 19:22.36 | Iridos | FDFlock, well, you could have made a mistake when copying :P |
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| 19:25.37 | Whiskey | hehe |
| 19:25.37 | Whiskey | i bet this not working D: |
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| 19:25.56 | shtrb | how may import the password + wifi name from wpa_supplicant.conf into NetworkManager ? |
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| 19:27.12 | FDFlock | Iridos: I checked the sha1 checksum of the image against the (still read-only) partition ;) |
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| 19:28.40 | debsan | shtrb, do you want NM to use /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 19:28.57 | shtrb | no |
| 19:29.21 | FDFlock | So, it should be ok to mount it rw, right? I mean, I can' think of any reason that the image wouldn't be sufficient for data recovery, but I'd like a confirmation |
| 19:29.23 | shtrb | debsan , to make NM use /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf (to use the passwords and wifi names ) |
| 19:29.38 | FDFlock | s/can'/can't/ |
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| 19:30.12 | Iridos | FDFlock, well, neither can I... but you're not to sue me, so... |
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| 19:31.07 | FDFlock | :) |
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| 19:32.12 | FDFlock | I compressed the image with xz... xz should be quite stable and safe now, right? |
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| 19:32.35 | FDFlock | a wonderful compression algorithm (LZMA) BTW |
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| 19:33.02 | FDFlock | fast and effective |
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| 19:35.14 | FDFlock | BTW, "photorec" was quite helpful, but I'm still looking for alternatives (especially ext4-specific tools for data recovery, if there are any). The reason I'm looking for alternatives is that photorec found too much junk... |
| 19:35.32 | debsan | shtrb, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#NetworkManager |
| 19:35.57 | debsan | shtrb, quote:"GNOME and KDE users shouldn't configure wpa_supplicant manually. Use NetworkManager as explained above. " |
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| 19:36.38 | debsan | NetworkManager is also a front-end for wpa_supplicant. |
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| 19:37.47 | shtrb | debsan, well I moved from wpa_supplicant to NM (due to a bug my card wasn't supported till recently) |
| 19:38.11 | debsan | :( |
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| 19:38.15 | debsan | ok |
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| 19:38.36 | shtrb | debsan , so I wish to not loose all my work |
| 19:38.41 | debsan | has your problem been solved ? |
| 19:39.15 | shtrb | debsan , I have support for the card so this is fixed , no I wish to make NM be aware of the password+wifi |
| 19:39.23 | shtrb | s/no/now |
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| 19:40.41 | shtrb | baisclt I wish to change the invokation of wpa_supplicant to have -c filename (NM allready invoke wpa_supplicant) |
| 19:40.50 | somiaj | how many networks are you thinking about switching over shtrb |
| 19:41.12 | shtrb | none |
| 19:41.32 | somiaj | to make NM manage the wifi card just remove any mention of it from /etc/network/interfaces as for coping the networks over you may have to do it manually unless you want to dive into NM's save file and write a script |
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| 19:42.27 | shtrb | somiaj, NM allready manages the wifi card for me |
| 19:44.26 | shtrb | i.e I'm searching for something like /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/$SOME_NETWORK |
| 19:45.07 | shtrb | that will add (but I still don't know how to do that in a normal way (and not to write a script that will process the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf) |
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| 19:46.56 | jmosco | not sure where to look, but I have eth1 as my primary, and no eth0 for some reason |
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| 19:47.50 | jmosco | in /etc/network/interfaces, if I define eth0, I cant successfully |
| 19:47.57 | jmosco | bring the network back up |
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| 19:49.47 | Ojol | how can I start openbox after installing it? |
| 19:50.26 | tensorpudding | in the old days, you would start X, and have a bit in your .xinitrc file that would run openbox |
| 19:50.51 | tensorpudding | if you're using gdm though, you have to do it some other way which i never bothered to learn |
| 19:51.00 | tensorpudding | it should provide a session file so you just pick it out |
| 19:51.49 | somiaj | the default session should use $HOME/.xsession from gdm (Which is similar to .xinitrc) |
| 19:52.10 | Ojol | I noticed my XFCE4 looked KDE-ish on a machine that had KDE first and was using the KDM, was it KDM doing that or KDE itself imposing itself over XFCE? |
| 19:52.31 | somiaj | though many wm's put configure a session for gdm you should be able to just select (look at the session options presented to you at login) |
| 19:52.32 | Ojol | and I ask that because, is XDM sufficient for running KDE,GNOME,openbox,etc..? |
| 19:52.56 | somiaj | Ojol: you can use any dm you want, be it xdm, slim, wdm |
| 19:53.00 | tensorpudding | i recommend not using xdm |
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| 19:53.10 | tensorpudding | but it is possible to start anything from it |
| 19:53.19 | somiaj | Ojol: though you will loose some of the gnome special things like launching an additional session or allow the user to reboot the system that gdm offers |
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| 19:53.32 | jacobw | Ojol: there's a GTK theme to make GTK apps look like QT apps |
| 19:53.57 | Ojol | jacobw; ah so it was likely that from KDE making XFCE4 look weird |
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| 19:54.25 | Ojol | do I need GDM3 if I want to use GNOME3? |
| 19:54.37 | tensorpudding | i don't bother with caring about that stuff anymore, i just use gnome |
| 19:54.37 | jacobw | no |
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| 19:55.51 | Ojol | Do you people use aptitude in place of apt-get? i find it goes on forever sometimes offering loads of 'solutions' that include removing most programs sometimes |
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| 19:56.13 | jacobw | all i need is a browser and a terminal emulator :p |
| 19:56.46 | tensorpudding | i use apt-get/apt-cache |
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| 19:57.10 | jacobw | there's some differences in the solver |
| 19:57.15 | somiaj | Ojol: they have different logic, so they do things differently. aptitude seems to have slightly better logic in some situations while apt-get in others. Though seems aptitude is slighty better more often. |
| 19:57.34 | somiaj | I still use apt-get/apt-cache myself |
| 19:57.43 | jacobw | there's also no easter eggs in aptitude :p |
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| 19:58.09 | zumbi | dpkg: why aptitude |
| 19:58.10 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 19:58.31 | zumbi | dpkg: why not aptitude |
| 19:58.32 | dpkg | Aptitude is more memory intensive and slower than <apt-get>, the <ncurses> interface is always loaded regardless of being used or not. Moreover the resolver can sometimes produce unexpected results and most of <aptitude>'s former exclusive features are now available in <apt-get> as well. Ask me about <why aptitude> and see http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 19:59.24 | jacobw | :) |
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| 20:01.37 | Ojol | dpkg: invokerc.d |
| 20:01.37 | dpkg | Ojol: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 20:02.20 | cheako | Hello, when making copyright statements how many here use /short names/ for example I typically write my name as Mike Mestnik however my legal name is Michael Mestnik. What about key signing, will it be a problem for ppl if the name on my ID don't exactly match the name on the key? |
| 20:02.54 | valdyn | cheako: the name does not matter |
| 20:03.20 | valdyn | cheako: its only used to find your public key, as is the associated email address |
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| 20:04.49 | valdyn | cheako: copyright statements need the name only for the same purpose - to find you |
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| 20:05.47 | Ojol | openbox-session is returning: Failed to open the display from the DISPLAY environment variable. < what's that mean? |
| 20:05.49 | cheako | Thank you, that really clears things up for me. |
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| 20:08.59 | inigo | Ojol, try "startx" |
| 20:09.07 | valdyn | cheako: theres an implied trust relation between you and whoever believes that ascii string that sais that you are the author and that you grant those rights. It's not a legal document. |
| 20:09.41 | Ojol | inigo: command not found |
| 20:10.38 | Whiskey | does not killall exist in debian? |
| 20:10.39 | inigo | dpkg -S $( type -p startx ) #says me that it's in the "xinit" package |
| 20:10.39 | dpkg | Package: $( type -p startx ) #says me that it's in the "xinit" package: Status: install ok installed |
| 20:10.58 | inigo | Whiskey, apt-get install psmisc |
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| 20:12.38 | inigo | this bot installs when I just search |
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| 20:14.03 | Whiskey | is it not killall -9 to kill all programs? |
| 20:14.05 | Whiskey | if more then one is open |
| 20:14.26 | valdyn | Whiskey: hah |
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| 20:14.46 | inigo | killall --signal 9 .... |
| 20:14.50 | valdyn | Whiskey: i hope not |
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| 20:15.40 | valdyn | Whiskey: you are supposed to use -9 |
| 20:15.46 | valdyn | Whiskey: you are *not* supposed to use -9 |
| 20:16.02 | Whiskey | why not? |
| 20:16.04 | Whiskey | i always use that |
| 20:16.20 | valdyn | Whiskey: i hope you dont admin important data then |
| 20:16.29 | valdyn | !kill -9 |
| 20:16.30 | dpkg | subjects -9 to excruciating pain with a rusty dagger |
| 20:16.32 | valdyn | ghmm |
| 20:16.35 | valdyn | !uuok |
| 20:16.57 | valdyn | Whiskey: http://72.14.189.113/howto/shell/kill-9/ |
| 20:17.06 | Whiskey | how do ikill multiplay programs that are open whit same name in one command then? |
| 20:17.18 | valdyn | Whiskey: "killall firefox-bin" |
| 20:17.21 | tremon | Whiskey: killall without the -9 |
| 20:17.35 | Whiskey | kk |
| 20:17.37 | Defolos | does anybody know what replaced the wacom-tools package? i cannot download it from debian testing, but it would be quite helpfull |
| 20:18.01 | Whiskey | still alot started |
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| 20:18.21 | valdyn | Whiskey: alot of *what* is started after you run *what* ? |
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| 20:19.25 | inigo | Defolos, I don't know about wacom, but there is a xserver-xorg-input-wacom package that has /usr/bin/xsetwacom |
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| 20:20.20 | Defolos | inigo: yes, i found that one, but the wacom-tools package hat some usefull tools to configure touchscreens |
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| 20:21.38 | Defolos | inigo: i am trying to get screen rotation to work on thinkpad tablet, but i don't know the exact device names but wacom tools should be able to find them |
| 20:22.30 | inigo | screen rotation maybe made using xrandr, but thats "output" not "input" |
| 20:22.35 | chogath | hello |
| 20:22.39 | inigo | sorry no experience with such devices |
| 20:23.14 | chogath | i think i have a 32 bit binary i cannot execute. ldd gives me "not a dynamic executable". what packages are there for 32 bit libraries? |
| 20:23.51 | Defolos | inigo: no problem, i dont want to rotate the screen, that works already out of the box, i need to rotate the wacom input or else the touchscreen is unusable |
| 20:23.54 | valdyn | cheako: libraries? its *not* a dynamic executable. |
| 20:24.00 | valdyn | chogath: ^^ |
| 20:24.11 | Iridos | chogath, what does file say it is? |
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| 20:25.03 | chogath | Iridos: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped |
| 20:25.33 | chogath | i have 64 bit debian |
| 20:25.42 | chogath | and cannot execute it |
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| 20:26.01 | valdyn | chogath: "uname -r" |
| 20:26.13 | Iridos | funny... they disagree |
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| 20:26.20 | valdyn | hes running 64-bit ldd |
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| 20:26.41 | Iridos | hm |
| 20:26.54 | jelly-home | valdyn: ldd is a shell script. |
| 20:26.55 | Iridos | so how does that multiarch stuff work? |
| 20:26.57 | chogath | valdyn: its a vserver with a kernel i cannot recompile :P |
| 20:27.17 | chogath | 3.0.23 |
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| 20:27.25 | valdyn | chogath: then i cant see if it can run 32-bit code |
| 20:27.30 | jelly-home | Iridos: MAGIC (and Friendship) |
| 20:27.31 | valdyn | jelly-home: oops |
| 20:28.00 | Iridos | a 64-bit shell script :P |
| 20:28.04 | chogath | aren't there any libraries to give me that functionality? :X |
| 20:28.23 | valdyn | chogath: its not that simple |
| 20:28.47 | jelly-home | chogath: is ia32-libs installed already? |
| 20:29.17 | chogath | installing :] |
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| 20:29.30 | chogath | installed |
| 20:29.30 | jelly-home | ldd ought to work nicer after that |
| 20:29.35 | chogath | ;P |
| 20:29.57 | jelly-home | at least you're going to see what is it you're still missing |
| 20:30.01 | FDFlock | is confused... Isn't Debian multiarch be default? |
| 20:30.21 | valdyn | FDFlock: he is in a virtual server |
| 20:30.21 | jelly-home | FDFlock: squeeze is not. The next release _might_ be. |
| 20:30.38 | valdyn | FDFlock: -> its not really debian |
| 20:30.58 | chogath | ok, it works now |
| 20:31.05 | chogath | all i needed was ia32-libs |
| 20:31.08 | jelly-home | what, ldd or the app? |
| 20:31.12 | chogath | the app |
| 20:31.15 | FDFlock | i see |
| 20:31.17 | jelly-home | all right! |
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| 20:31.35 | jelly-home | chogath: but I bet ldd works as well! |
| 20:31.45 | FDFlock | jelly-home: Is there any reason that next stable shouldn't be multiarch?! Oo |
| 20:32.04 | jelly-home | FDFlock: it's a hard problem to solve. |
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| 20:32.38 | FDFlock | remembers certain other distros supporting multiarch YEARS ago |
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| 20:32.59 | jelly-home | FDFlock: it's not solved yet. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation |
| 20:33.02 | valdyn | i dont know about any distro that has proper multiarch support |
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| 20:33.24 | FDFlock | jelly-home: thx for the link |
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| 20:33.33 | FDFlock | valdyn: Depend on how you define proper |
| 20:33.39 | jelly-home | FDFlock: there's a slight difference. Gentoo, RHEL, Fedora support biarch with 32 and 64bit x86. |
| 20:33.44 | FDFlock | s/Depend/Depends/ |
| 20:34.31 | jelly-home | FDFlock: Debian and Ubuntu think that is not Good Enough, and want to be able to mix and match ANY dpkg architecture on a system |
| 20:34.41 | tremon | FDFlock: the most other distributions offer is the ability to install /several/ 32-bit packages on a 64-bit host |
| 20:35.11 | jelly-home | tremon: you can pretty much install any 32bit package on a 64bit RHEL. |
| 20:35.28 | jelly-home | all the 32bit builds are available |
| 20:35.39 | inigo | what is the benefice of multiarch in debian ? and... what is the penalization ? |
| 20:35.44 | tremon | FDFlock: Debian is aiming for a solution that allows you to install any package for any architecture i.e. mixing armel/armhf, or installing powerpc dev-packages on amd64 (for crosscompiling) |
| 20:36.14 | inigo | that answers in some way to my first question too |
| 20:36.14 | tremon | s/i.e/e.g/ |
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| 20:36.36 | FDFlock | Thx, I see... I suppose that what you called "biarch" is already OK? |
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| 20:37.06 | tremon | there are a number of 32-bit packages available for amd64, yes |
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| 20:37.21 | FDFlock | tremon: However, I can't see that many use cases for mixing (eg.) x86/arm... aside from crosscompilation |
| 20:37.24 | jelly-home | FDFlock: not just ok, it's been working in RHEL since like 2005. |
| 20:37.57 | FDFlock | jelly-home: and Gentoo, I remember |
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| 20:38.17 | jelly-home | Debian's just taking its time and doing things the Right Way is a good excuse |
| 20:38.41 | Iridos | or you could say it's just lazyness |
| 20:38.50 | jelly-home | but it's nice to have different distros with different priorities |
| 20:38.51 | tremon | FDFlock: in-place upgrade from 32-bit -> 64-bit, ABI transitions like armv4->thumb, reducing archive footprint by no longer having to keep both an i386 build and a 32-bit amd64 build come to mind... |
| 20:39.01 | jelly-home | Iridos: but is it? |
| 20:39.14 | Iridos | what do I know |
| 20:39.27 | Iridos | could pay the developers more |
| 20:39.33 | jelly-home | twice as much! |
| 20:39.51 | ben1066 | hmm |
| 20:39.52 | tremon | FDFlock: oh, and managing a qemu test-environment with a native dpkg... |
| 20:40.01 | ben1066 | is there a web ui based dvbt recorder? |
| 20:40.02 | Iridos | jelly-home, right |
| 20:40.30 | FDFlock | tremon: Oh, that actually sound way cooler than what I had though! |
| 20:40.37 | FDFlock | *sounds |
| 20:40.44 | FDFlock | *ght |
| 20:40.59 | FDFlock | thinks: argh, sorry for the typos |
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| 20:41.39 | mindbender1 | I'm using kernel 3.2.0-1-686-pae and sid. How can I get driver support for realtek fast ethernet controller RTL8101E/RTL8102E. My kernel is currently using r8169 for this hardware, but there is a complain of unsupported pm caps regs version 7 at boot up, and I get scrambled screens when I resume from a hibernate. |
| 20:42.28 | inigo | what's the penalization of a multiarch binary? just disk-size or any more? |
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| 20:42.53 | jelly-home | inigo: the binaries are still separate |
| 20:44.04 | Iridos | all that effort for people who want to run a 32-bit ls on their 64-bit system |
| 20:45.28 | Alam_Squeeze | how about "wine"? |
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| 20:46.06 | valdyn | Alam_Squeeze: what about it? |
| 20:46.07 | tremon | Alam_Squeeze: yes, please. I'm in the mood for an Argentinian red, what you? |
| 20:46.13 | FDFlock | argh, WINE is useless anyway |
| 20:46.16 | FDFlock | sorry, I couldn't resist |
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| 20:48.10 | streuner_ | Alam_Squeeze: Kallstadt Kobnert is no bad ;-) |
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| 20:48.15 | streuner_ | s/no/not/ |
| 20:48.32 | inigo | maybe it should say: "Our priorities are our 'multiarch-users' and free software" |
| 20:50.02 | cassavuota | i was trying to upgrade to the next kernel when i get an error mesage saying that there's not enough space on my disk. before that i get an unpack error in /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image...deb. any ideas what went wrong? tia |
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| 20:50.22 | file-exists-p | maybe you do not have enough space on your disk? |
| 20:50.29 | FDFlock | cassavuota: Maybe /boot is full? |
| 20:51.13 | FDFlock | cassavuota: In that case, you can uninstall an older kernel to make some space... NOT your current one, of course! |
| 20:51.54 | cassavuota | FDFlock: of course. thanks. haven't thought of /boot. 175 MB left. will check that |
| 20:52.11 | FDFlock | Also, /var/cache/apt/ could be full, if mounted on a separate (?) partition... I use tmpfs myself |
| 20:52.29 | FDFlock | 175MB should be more than enough, I think |
| 20:52.30 | tremon | FDFlock: actually, there is no danger in removing your running kernel. The kernel itself is not backed by disk cache |
| 20:53.01 | cassavuota | FDFlock: that's empty, but will conider tmpfs |
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| 20:53.12 | FDFlock | tremon: I know, but I like keeping the previous version in any case |
| 20:53.26 | FDFlock | tremon: That's why I suggested keeping it |
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| 20:55.15 | FDFlock | cassavuota: You can modify Debian config so that only the 2 most recent kernels would be kept @ every update, so that you won't have such problems |
| 20:55.35 | cassavuota | excellent |
| 20:56.11 | FDFlock | Well, I'm pretty sure, but I don't remember what you should change exactly |
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| 21:00.20 | FDFlock | Repeating a previous unanswered question: "photorec" was quite helpful for recovering deleted data, but it found too much junk and I'm still looking for alternatives (especially ext4-specific tools for data recovery, if there are any). Any ideas? |
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| 21:03.34 | cassavuota | FDFlock: removing one of two kernels did the trick. not sure why though ^^ |
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| 21:04.29 | luser12 | Hello all. Anyone know how I would go about allowing a user to write to /proc/self/oom_adj (2.6.32 kernel)? I've granted the user CAP_SYS_RESOURCE via /etc/security/capability.h but I still can't reduce the oom_adj score |
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| 21:09.36 | jhutchins_lt | FDFlock: Yeah. If it matters, make a backup. |
| 21:10.06 | jhutchins_lt | The process of file recovery on ext file systems is very difficult, That photorec can do it at all is pretty exceptional. |
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| 21:10.57 | cassavuota | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:16.36 | jhutchins_lt | cassavuota: I don't think there's anything wrong with ext, but it isn't easy to recover deleted files on. |
| 21:17.49 | cassavuota | which doesn't always have to be a bad thing |
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| 21:23.41 | Tunix2 | I am having some issues setting up phpmyadmin. I have the config file in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf but I am not sure what I am supposed to change in /etc/apache.cinf |
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| 21:25.54 | joltcan | Tunix2: I have never used it, but I would assume that changes to apache should go to /etc/apache[2]/sites-enabled/phpstuff.conf |
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| 21:27.01 | inigo | if it's a package, maybe to /etc/apache2/conf.d/ |
| 21:27.56 | inigo | or modules-available (to use a2enmod)... but phpmyadmin is not a "module" |
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| 21:28.46 | inigo | Tunix2, did you perform "apt-get install phpmyadmin" ? |
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| 21:29.29 | inigo | it should ask you to which http daemons you want to (auto)configure (pick from apache2, lighttpd, etc) |
| 21:29.35 | vali_ | hi |
| 21:29.45 | inigo | then, maybe just reload or restart the httpd |
| 21:30.30 | inigo | welcome vali_ |
| 21:30.38 | Tunix2 | inigo, Yes and I copied everything in the /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf into /etc/apache.conf and I got this output: http://paste.debian.net/159250/ |
| 21:31.21 | inigo | Tunix2, /etc/apache.conf is not readed by debian apache |
| 21:31.47 | Tunix2 | inigo, What do you mean? |
| 21:31.52 | vali_ | how can I make symlinks in an ftp server "transparent". Right now I can follow them, but the ftp client jumps to the new directory. I want them to be like in a shell |
| 21:32.53 | inigo | Tunix2, debian apache reads config from /etc/apache2/ |
| 21:33.02 | inigo | your error seems to be unrelated to phpmyadmin, it talks about a duplicated Alias directive |
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| 21:34.56 | Tunix2 | inigo, then why did I get that output when I restarted apache? Wouldnt it have not even looked. But it seens my alias on line 278 in apache.conf is: Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin |
| 21:34.59 | TechDesk | how can i change a binary file ? |
| 21:35.05 | vali_ | example: in link from ~/things/directory to /media/data. The ftp client "jumps" from ~/things to /media/data following the link. |
| 21:36.10 | inigo | Tunix2, did you add such alias ? try grep -r phpmyadmin /etc/apache2 ... it maybe be already added by debian |
| 21:36.38 | inigo | Tunix2, try just commenting your line 278 and restart again |
| 21:36.55 | vali_ | lets say data has a file file.txt, I want the path to be ~/things/directory/file.txt instead of /media/data/file.txt (from the client perspective) |
| 21:37.39 | Tunix2 | inigo, before I do that here is the output of that command: http://paste.debian.net/159252/ |
| 21:37.58 | vali_ | is there any way to do it without using mount --bind ? (I have no problems going out the chroot) |
| 21:38.37 | vali_ | I need it to work this way to be able to use symlinks with curlftpfs |
| 21:38.53 | valdyn | vali_: what is your ftp client? |
| 21:39.19 | Shadur | ... Note to self, disable apt-listchanges before doing upgrade from lenny -> squeeze. |
| 21:39.36 | vali_ | does not matter.. filezilla, kftpgrabber... all of them "jumps" around the remote filesystem |
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| 21:40.22 | vali_ | I want to hide to the client the fact a symlink |
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| 21:40.35 | vali_ | I want to hide to the client the fact a symlink is a symlink |
| 21:40.37 | joltcan | vali_: I assume that for making symlinks transparent like that it would require the ftp-server to support the "hiding" of the real path |
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| 21:40.56 | vali_ | joltcan, exactly that |
| 21:41.00 | valdyn | vali_: ok, i see, however its still different with different clients |
| 21:41.13 | valdyn | vali_: ( when symlinks are visible to the ftp client as such ) |
| 21:41.17 | vali_ | tried pure-ftp and vsftp, but did not find how to do that |
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| 21:41.33 | valdyn | vali_: what are you using now? |
| 21:41.59 | vali_ | last try was with pure, but did not find any option to "hide" links |
| 21:42.06 | Tunix2 | inigo, Do I need to put a simlink to phpmyadmin in /var/www |
| 21:42.18 | vali_ | I want it to work with curlftpfs |
| 21:42.19 | Tunix2 | I still dont quite understand what I am doing wrong |
| 21:42.25 | inigo | Tunix2, in such paste I do not see the duplicated alias for phpmyadmin... it sounds like you're using a custom lamp build instead of debian packages... or a very personalized one... ask the admin, not the irc |
| 21:42.28 | valdyn | vali_: use mount --bind instead |
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| 21:42.52 | Tunix2 | inigo, I am the admin :( |
| 21:43.26 | vali_ | that works ok with a limited number of links... but having data scattered around in different directories in 3 HDD is PITA |
| 21:43.42 | vali_ | the --bind option I mean |
| 21:44.15 | vali_ | it seems I need to google a bit more :D |
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| 21:45.08 | inigo | Tunix2, I don't understand... why do you copy nothing to /etc/apache2.conf ? why we see an error in the /etc/init.d script, that is not shown with a grep -r to /etc/apache2/ ? can't help too much in such situation |
| 21:47.23 | inigo | how did you installed apache2? how did you installed phpmyadmin? |
| 21:47.42 | FDFlock | jhutchins_lt: Thx for your reply (I just saw it). |
| 21:47.48 | FDFlock | So I guess there aren't any suck tools... *sigh* |
| 21:48.05 | FDFlock | *suck |
| 21:48.08 | FDFlock | *such |
| 21:48.13 | Tunix2 | inigo, apache2 was already installed, i just did a sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin I was simply following this tutorial: http://my.opera.com/subjam/blog/install-phpmyadmin-on-debian-lenny |
| 21:48.33 | FDFlock | (Jesus, what's with all the typos today!) |
| 21:49.22 | Tunix2 | inigo, Also it appears I was editing apache2.conf this whole time in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 21:50.28 | FDFlock | Tunix2: As you probably saw, phpmyadmin has its own file for apache settings ;) |
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| 21:50.38 | inigo | Tunix2, I don't understand why do you get a duplicated "Alias" error and grep -r does not show any Alias line... |
| 21:51.11 | Iridos | wireshark is funny... Running as user "root" and group "root".This could be dangerous. |
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| 21:51.22 | Tunix2 | FDFlock, inigo then what does this mean "2. change apache2 configuration according to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" |
| 21:52.04 | ompaul | Iridos: that warning is right if the tool becomes exploitable it is a really soft way to kicked over |
| 21:52.05 | Tunix2 | There are only 3 simple steps in that tutorial. Install phpmyadmin, change config and retsrat apache |
| 21:52.12 | FDFlock | it probably means that you should edit /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf (sorry, I have phpmyadmin installed, but I'm not an expert) |
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| 21:52.59 | inigo | Tunix2, I don't know about such tutorial, but in debian you do not need to copy nothing if you pick "apache2" during the phpmyadmin installation |
| 21:53.06 | Iridos | ompaul, as wireshark (or any other tool) can't access the raw network devices as a non-root user that gives you a choice of not running it... |
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| 21:53.29 | ompaul | Iridos: it does, and people need to be aware of that :) |
| 21:53.33 | inigo | also, you're getting a "duplicated Alias" error for phpmyadmin, but we don't saw it with grep -r |
| 21:53.43 | inigo | so I will go for my dinner :-) |
| 21:54.00 | Tunix2 | inigo, I was never prompted to pick anything during the phpmyadmin install |
| 21:54.14 | Iridos | ompaul, well, that's a silly choice |
| 21:54.23 | FDFlock | Iridos, ompaul: I remember other distros having a "wireshark" group that you could add your user to... Wouldn't that be safer? |
| 21:54.42 | Tunix2 | This is retarded why do I have issues with phpmyadmin.... |
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| 21:55.21 | ompaul | Iridos: ok, let me phrase it this way, do you want to use a none structurally important machine for this job or do you want to use a PC you can rebuild with no server downtime? |
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| 21:55.49 | Iridos | FDFlock, I dont know what the restrictions are on network devices... they're the only ones that have no representation in /dev/, so permissions aren't handled over the file permissions |
| 21:56.36 | Iridos | ompaul, well... if you are to make that choice, you should already be aware of the danger of running stuff as root |
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| 21:57.51 | Iridos | hm, also I'm not sure how you'd exploit this even if you could produce malicious packets that allow you to insert your own code |
| 21:57.52 | ompaul | Iridos: you are as am I and we have been for years, but it is not always obvious to newer users |
| 21:57.58 | Some_Person | Is there any way I can batch convert a lot of 320kbit mp3 files to make them smaller without losing too much quality? |
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| 21:58.36 | Iridos | ompaul, the new users that run servers that may not have any downtime? :) |
| 21:58.49 | FDFlock | Some_Person: No there isn't. Recompressing already-compressed stuff is EVIL. Refrain from doing it! |
| 21:58.56 | ompaul | they might have gotten a job as a junior admin etc |
| 21:58.59 | vali_ | Some_Person, transcode is evil XD |
| 21:59.05 | dFence | hi guys! I can't get my debian to stfu during bootup - the commandline option "quiet" suppresses everything until the line "kernel: [ 0.945913] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48" - after that, there're still some messages – how can I fix that? |
| 21:59.12 | Some_Person | I'm trying to fit a lot of music onto one standard CD-RW so my dad can play everything in his car (it can play mp3 files on a data disc) |
| 21:59.13 | vali_ | FDFlock, lol in the evil thing XD |
| 21:59.15 | FDFlock | Some_Person: If you have the original uncompressed files, use those to produce smaller mp3s |
| 21:59.27 | Some_Person | FDFlock: No, I don't have any original uncompressed stuff |
| 22:00.15 | Iridos | Some_Person, well... try it - or make two CDs ... what does one cost? 50 cent? |
| 22:00.15 | Some_Person | Currently, the total is 920.5 MB |
| 22:00.27 | Some_Person | Iridos: My dad doesn't want to have to switch discs |
| 22:00.40 | vali_ | Some_Person, that's another good reason to have the "original" with lossless codeds |
| 22:00.57 | Iridos | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.58 | Some_Person | The original CDs were in our old car which was stolen |
| 22:00.59 | vali_ | codecs |
| 22:01.00 | Some_Person | I can't help it |
| 22:01.03 | FDFlock | Some_Person: Well, you can try it in that case, just don't share those files with other people! The quality decrease will be significant, but probably still imperceptible on a car stereo system |
| 22:02.07 | Some_Person | How would I do it? I don't want to do each file manually and retag it manually |
| 22:02.14 | FDFlock | is not talking about the legal side of things, he is just ****ed off when people share low-quality stuff |
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| 22:02.43 | Some_Person | I'm not interested in sharing, and I do legally own these tracks, even though the physical discs are gone with our car |
| 22:03.10 | valdyn | Some_Person: not that it matters, but you dont legally own them now |
| 22:03.14 | FDFlock | Some_Person: probably with "lame" (the best mp3 encoder) and a very simple bash script |
| 22:03.33 | LordShiva | what you want dFence ? |
| 22:03.51 | LordShiva | More messages or less |
| 22:03.55 | FDFlock | I don't know about preserving the tags. You can preserve them, but you need to be careful with the command |
| 22:04.10 | dFence | LordShiva: disable / divert ALL boot-messages to somewhere it won't get displayed during startup |
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| 22:04.18 | Some_Person | valdyn: So if you steal a car containing CDs, you now legally own them? |
| 22:04.42 | FDFlock | Some_Person: good point! of course not |
| 22:04.48 | valdyn | Some_Person: thats possible, yes |
| 22:05.17 | valdyn | Some_Person: for the music on them - obviously not for the physical item |
| 22:05.31 | aBound | If you steal a car containing CDs you don't legally own the tracks nor the CDs. |
| 22:05.42 | LordShiva | you tried quiet ? |
| 22:05.51 | dFence | LordShiva: it works until it switches to fb |
| 22:05.51 | LordShiva | what bootloader you use ? |
| 22:05.57 | dFence | LordShiva: pxelinux |
| 22:06.02 | vali_ | Some_Person, there are some players with "convert" function if you dont want to use a script invoking lame |
| 22:06.08 | Some_Person | I think I (or, perhaps more properly, my dad) should still be the original owner |
| 22:06.11 | vali_ | for example, clementine |
| 22:06.18 | Some_Person | Err, the legal owner |
| 22:06.29 | LordShiva | I know you can dissable it on grub |
| 22:06.33 | Whiskey | anyone good on bash :D |
| 22:06.38 | Whiskey | got a small tiny problem :d |
| 22:06.40 | LordShiva | maybe try to disable fb |
| 22:06.41 | vali_ | define "good" |
| 22:06.46 | Whiskey | http://codepad.org/KI9jochP |
| 22:07.02 | valdyn | Some_Person: you can batch transcode with lame, i dont know if it will keep tags, it probably will |
| 22:07.11 | Whiskey | in both loops it accept enter of somereason |
| 22:07.12 | Whiskey | how do i get rid of that |
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| 22:07.45 | Some_Person | Well, what players have this "convert" function? |
| 22:08.03 | valdyn | Some_Person: whats wrong with lame? |
| 22:08.03 | dFence | LordShiva: I passed "quiet" to the kernel already, all the deep kernel stuff isn't displayed, but I still get log-messages (pre-udev) |
| 22:08.08 | Tunix2 | Okay say I have PHPmyadmin up how do I make it to where I am the only person to access it? I dont many websites that have working links to example.com/phpmyadmin |
| 22:08.11 | FDFlock | Whiskey: it won't solve your problem, but you could use echo with the -e option! |
| 22:08.40 | Some_Person | valdyn: If it preserves the tags, it would work, but I would need a script to do it |
| 22:08.52 | vali_ | Some_Person, clementine, for example |
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| 22:09.01 | Whiskey | hmm |
| 22:09.05 | dFence | is this something I need to set within the initramfs? |
| 22:09.09 | Iridos | if you steal a car containing CDs you _illegally_ own them... that's what stealing is all about |
| 22:09.14 | valdyn | Some_Person: for i in *.mp3; do lame <settings> $i new-$i; done |
| 22:09.51 | valdyn | Some_Person: this is a little off if your file names contain whitespaces |
| 22:09.59 | Some_Person | What bitrate would you recommend using? |
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| 22:10.16 | Some_Person | Yes, there are spaces in the file names. They're labeled as "Track# - Title" |
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| 22:10.30 | bit0 | Hello. I can't load usb-storage module, any advice?, please |
| 22:10.36 | FDFlock | Some_Person: obviously the largest bitrate possible, as long as it fits on 1 CD |
| 22:11.02 | FDFlock | Some_Person: about 256kbps in your case? |
| 22:11.06 | nsadmin | you might want to rename the spaces to something else |
| 22:11.07 | valdyn | Some_Person: ok, "for i in *.mp3; do lame <settings> "$i" "new-$i";done |
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| 22:11.54 | valdyn | Some_Person: i shouldnt have used that " before the 'for', thats confusing |
| 22:12.31 | Whiskey | its relly enoying |
| 22:12.32 | Some_Person | It's fine; I get it |
| 22:12.33 | Some_Person | Thanks |
| 22:13.05 | FDFlock | Some_Person: generally, 192kbps VBR (not CBR!) is considered "transparent" for most people, even in ideal listening conditions (not a car!)... But in your case you are REcompressing, which means significant additionaal quality losses |
| 22:13.53 | Some_Person | Well, I don't really have a choice but to recompress |
| 22:13.54 | vali_ | Some_Person, use -V 2 or -V 3 and you should be fine |
| 22:14.04 | FDFlock | bit0: any error messages? (eg. dmesg) |
| 22:14.12 | Some_Person | unless I buy the albums again |
| 22:14.24 | bit0 | FDFlock, no errors |
| 22:14.57 | bit0 | FDFlock, usbcore: deregistering interface driver usb-storage when I connect my usb stick |
| 22:15.31 | FDFlock | bit0: no idea, I've never had such problems |
| 22:15.35 | bit0 | remove "when I connect my usb stick" |
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| 22:15.46 | Some_Person | vali_, FDFlock, valdyn: Thank you |
| 22:16.15 | bit0 | FDFlock, it's a bit weird for me. |
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| 22:17.28 | Some_Person | Also, there is one CD that I still have that I'd like to put in the mix if there's room. Can anyone suggest a good program to rip it? |
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| 22:17.32 | FDFlock | bit0: first of all, are you sure there are no hardware problems? try the same USB on a different port and another USB drive on the same port |
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| 22:17.47 | FDFlock | bit0: Also REMOVE any USB hubs temorarily |
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| 22:17.51 | anisfarhana | Question : Is that possible to disable ping , but make an exceptional for IP address (from another box) to ping it? |
| 22:17.51 | bit0 | FDFlock, yes, I've two computers |
| 22:17.52 | FDFlock | *temp |
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| 22:18.30 | bit0 | FDFlock, yes, done |
| 22:18.59 | happyhessian | i'm having some difficulty with debian-installer on an lvm partition. could anyone help me find a solution? |
| 22:19.00 | vali_ | anisfarhana, disable being able to ping another sites or disabling another sites to ping you? |
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| 22:19.18 | FDFlock | Some_Person: I don't know about ripping, but lame is the best mp3 encoder you can find... I'd rip it to FLAC (a great lossless format with tag support) and make the mp3 from there |
| 22:19.25 | anisfarhana | vader-: disable from being able to ping , but i want my another able to ping it. |
| 22:19.28 | nsadmin | you're not connecting those computers together thru a usb hub...? |
| 22:19.31 | FDFlock | Some_Person: Gnome has a graphical tool for ripping |
| 22:19.38 | valdyn | !jack |
| 22:19.39 | dpkg | [jack] a colloquialism for a person who doesn't care about anything, or a CD ripping front-end (packaged as jack, http://www.home.unix-ag.org/arne/jack/), or the JACK Audio Connection Kit: a low-latency sound server, allowing multiple applications to connect to one audio device; packaged for Debian as jackd. http://jackaudio.org/ #jack on irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:19.42 | Some_Person | I'm running Xfce, not GNOME |
| 22:19.43 | nsadmin | or even not thru a hub? |
| 22:19.45 | happyhessian | grub install fails with "cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/... Check your device.map |
| 22:20.30 | valdyn | happyhessian: why are you trying to install grub on some /dev/mapper/thing ? |
| 22:20.40 | valdyn | happyhessian: oh, nevermind |
| 22:20.41 | FDFlock | generally, USB is horribly unreliable (not t omention, slow) |
| 22:20.47 | FDFlock | hates USB with a passion |
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| 22:21.11 | valdyn | happyhessian: give us the circumstances, like are you trying this from a chroot? |
| 22:21.17 | vali_ | anisfarhana, how about blocking ICMP ECHO with iptables? |
| 22:21.27 | anisfarhana | vali_: iptables sir? |
| 22:21.37 | bit0 | FDFlock, for sure |
| 22:21.40 | dvs | FDFlock: You hate the most successful computer interface ever created? |
| 22:21.41 | happyhessian | valdyn: not explicitly, through the debian-installer netinst iso |
| 22:21.52 | vali_ | it is the "firewall command" in linux |
| 22:21.54 | valdyn | happyhessian: which installer? |
| 22:22.00 | happyhessian | wheezy |
| 22:22.07 | valdyn | happyhessian: use the stable installer |
| 22:22.29 | FDFlock | dvs: Ethernet/SATA all the way, if you ask me. USB is only successful because it is cheap |
| 22:22.34 | nsadmin | FDFlock, you don't know slow until you've had a 1200baud modem |
| 22:22.46 | anisfarhana | vali_: iptables -I 1 INPUT -s 1.2.3.4/32 -p icmp -j ACCEPT |
| 22:22.51 | valdyn | happyhessian: theres stable installers with newer kernels if thats what you need, the wheezy installer is not for general usage |
| 22:22.57 | FDFlock | dvs: and lets manufactureres get away with implementing hardware stuff in software |
| 22:23.04 | dvs | nsadmin: agreed |
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| 22:24.00 | nsadmin | and 1200 bauders don't know slow until they've given rtty a shot |
| 22:24.07 | happyhessian | valdyn: i see. it's been several years since i ran a debian system but my recollection is that testing in general is pretty stable. is the installer an exception or is my memory wrong? |
| 22:24.17 | vali_ | that will allow a ip to be able to ping you |
| 22:24.46 | valdyn | happyhessian: the installer is developed in a very different fashion |
| 22:24.49 | FDFlock | nsadmin: well, back in the day, they were using punch cards for all IO! |
| 22:24.50 | dvs | FDFlock: It's the manufacturers fault if they don't implement everything in hardware |
| 22:25.13 | anisfarhana | vali_: 1.2.3.4/32 will be my another box , i am testing it right now. |
| 22:25.20 | nsadmin | are you kidding? compared to that pynchcards are really fast! |
| 22:25.36 | valdyn | happyhessian: its *often* broken sais experience, i cant say for any point in time |
| 22:25.43 | nsadmin | you haven't seen those air driven readers... |
| 22:25.46 | FDFlock | dvs: USB lets them get away with it, and you end up with dozens of Windows-only devices that suck CPU resources for everything |
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| 22:26.16 | happyhessian | valdyn: i see. once it's installed, is switching repos to wheezy likely to cause problems (beyond the standard warning on testing-level instabilities)? |
| 22:26.29 | FDFlock | not to mention (again), are totally unreliable |
| 22:26.33 | dvs | FDFlock: they have PCI devices that are also like that (like modems) |
| 22:26.37 | valdyn | happyhessian: no, upgrading is easy enough |
| 22:26.52 | vali_ | if you want to block anyone but some ip, just explicitly allow them and then block the rest |
| 22:27.06 | valdyn | happyhessian: do not pick tasks where you get a chance -> do not install more than essential to upgrade |
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| 22:27.21 | nsadmin | now having said that, I'd never want to go back to the days when there was no net and 300 baud was the fastest modem on the plenet |
| 22:27.54 | FDFlock | nsadmin: I'm not that old, but I don't want to go back to a USB modem! ;) |
| 22:28.12 | FDFlock | meant a USB ADSL modem |
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| 22:28.56 | happyhessian | valdyn: i guess that makes sense. it's painful to give up on the installer when it seems like it's essentially working--when i switched to lilo it reported success but kernel panicked on boot...i guess i should probably just cut my losses and get the stable iso |
| 22:29.20 | vali_ | anisfarhana, iptables -p icmp -A INPUT --icmp-type 8 -s 1.2.3.4 -j ACCEPT; iptables -p icmp -A INPUT --icmp-type 8 -j DROP |
| 22:30.32 | vali_ | if you use -I instead -A, just be sure the ACCPT rules are before the DROP rule |
| 22:30.33 | anisfarhana | vali_: iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 1.2.3.4/32 -p ICMP -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j DROP |
| 22:30.38 | valdyn | happyhessian: feel free to use grml or any other live cd to fix the boot manager, but I cannot help you with that |
| 22:30.46 | anisfarhana | vali_: i have done that , and it works. |
| 22:30.49 | vali_ | anisfarhana, that should work |
| 22:31.01 | anisfarhana | hugs vali_ |
| 22:31.04 | vali_ | :D |
| 22:31.04 | anisfarhana | vali_: thank you :) |
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| 22:32.37 | happyhessian | valdyn: i'll give it a shot. if i fail, i'll try stable. thanks for the information and your advice. |
| 22:32.55 | valdyn | happyhessian: welcome |
| 22:36.58 | ws2k3 | hello people i have a question my debian server has an intel core i7-2600 with speedspepping and a max turbo frequency the core is 3.4 ghz each core and 3,8 at max. |
| 22:37.12 | ws2k3 | can i configure my i7 that it allways runt at 3.8 with cpufreq ? |
| 22:37.22 | ws2k3 | or is this not adviced or is this not possible ? |
| 22:37.37 | valdyn | ws2k3: i think you would have to overclock from your bios |
| 22:37.38 | cardamon | That's like asking for a car that only does 5th gear. |
| 22:38.03 | ws2k3 | valdyn well i its a dedicated server so i cant get in the bios |
| 22:38.35 | ws2k3 | i already did disable speedstepping with cpufreq but i dont know if can do any more ? |
| 22:39.46 | nsadmin | if a car only does 5th gear, that would only be one gear |
| 22:40.00 | tremon | ws2k3: you may have misunderstood turbo mode. It allows the processor to automatically overclock /one core/ if the other cores are idling. If you want that to be always on, just use a non-smp kernel |
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| 22:40.42 | FDFlock | just use a non-smp kernel --> heh |
| 22:41.28 | nsadmin | ws2k3, hope you have good cooling in your box |
| 22:41.50 | nsadmin | because you're talking about generating more heat |
| 22:42.16 | valdyn | ws2k3: why are you overclocking ( or trying to ) anyway? This is useless. |
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| 22:42.33 | FDFlock | whether he has or not, using only the max frequency would be sill.... erm, not very wise |
| 22:42.45 | simonlnu | talk about frying |
| 22:43.12 | valdyn | that cpu would probably just throttle down automagically and be effectively slower than before? |
| 22:43.32 | FDFlock | if anything, I'd like to UNDER{clock,volt} my machines... sadly it's not possible |
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| 22:43.50 | simonlnu | probaby override aything he did to it if it got too hot (MCE) |
| 22:44.05 | ws2k3 | hmm |
| 22:44.07 | ws2k3 | ok |
| 22:44.09 | simonlnu | any* |
| 22:44.20 | anisfarhana | vali_: still around sir? |
| 22:44.40 | ws2k3 | can anyone try to explain what is the difference betweet nice and priority ? |
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| 22:45.08 | valdyn | ws2k3: theres no difference |
| 22:45.14 | simonlnu | !nice |
| 22:45.15 | dpkg | nice, or niceness is, how demanding or how nice a process is scheduled for. -20 is very agressive, and 19 is least agressive. Only root can drop a task below 0. See also taskset, prctl, and open mpi for cpu affinity |
| 22:45.17 | ws2k3 | i'm doing some gamehosting on my dedicated server si i'm look at a RT kernel and nice vs prioruty |
| 22:45.39 | valdyn | ws2k3: theres no vs |
| 22:45.58 | simonlnu | an rt kernel you won't have to do anything, really |
| 22:46.06 | valdyn | ws2k3: "nice value" is synonymous with "priority" |
| 22:46.08 | simonlnu | a rt* |
| 22:46.27 | ws2k3 | simonlnu what do u mean |
| 22:46.35 | ws2k3 | simonlnu what do you mean* |
| 22:46.40 | ws2k3 | sorry my english is not that good |
| 22:47.28 | simonlnu | with a rt kernel you probably won't have to do anything with regards to nicing processes |
| 22:47.28 | valdyn | simonlnu: he would still have to put his server process into the rt class iirc |
| 22:47.46 | simonlnu | iirc yes |
| 22:48.18 | FDFlock | ws2k3: I'm not sure whether an rt kernel would make any difference, or even be a good idea... Scheduling latencies should be quite small, smaller than network latencies and smaller than the human reaction time, unless the CPU is very loaded... |
| 22:48.22 | FDFlock | ws2k3: in which case, just use -5 niceness and you'll be OK |
| 22:48.23 | simonlnu | and make sure the daemon does proper threading |
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| 22:48.41 | FDFlock | After all, there won't be any significant IO delays on a gameserver, right? |
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| 22:49.14 | simonlnu | good point. the content won't be hard to pass i/o wise |
| 22:49.34 | simonlnu | bottleneck is likely to be network |
| 22:50.03 | ws2k3 | how u mean the deamon does proper threading |
| 22:50.14 | simonlnu | offloading the netwrok stuff to the nic would make it better |
| 22:50.21 | iluminator101 | how would transfer my setting from evolution in debian to centos what fold in evolution would i copy over to centos |
| 22:50.37 | valdyn | iluminator101: copy ~/.evolution |
| 22:50.37 | ws2k3 | the gameserver we host are closed source so i cant do any changes on that |
| 22:51.10 | simonlnu | does it say something like "good with multicore machines" or similar? |
| 22:51.14 | valdyn | ws2k3: do you have a way to measure this gameservers performance? |
| 22:51.41 | ws2k3 | for counter strike we do |
| 22:52.05 | valdyn | ws2k3: so go ahead, run it, play with nice levels of -5 or even -20, see what you get |
| 22:52.24 | simonlnu | (being closed source won't mean a thing if the programmers can't code threading properly; which is hard from what i hear, but anyway) |
| 22:52.31 | ws2k3 | so u advice to use a rt kernel ? |
| 22:52.41 | valdyn | ws2k3: no |
| 22:52.42 | simonlnu | try without first |
| 22:52.50 | ws2k3 | hmmm ok |
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| 22:53.06 | ws2k3 | so i need to stay away from priority |
| 22:53.09 | ws2k3 | only use nice ? |
| 22:53.23 | valdyn | ws2k3: didnt i say that that is the same thing? |
| 22:53.37 | ws2k3 | yeah u sad |
| 22:53.40 | ws2k3 | so i can chose ? |
| 22:53.42 | simonlnu | ws2k3: basically you'd do nice -5 ./bin/startme (or whatever commandline arguments to start the thing) |
| 22:53.52 | valdyn | ws2k3: processes have a priority, that priority is also called nice level, the program to change priority ( or nice level ) is called nice or renice |
| 22:54.17 | simonlnu | well not quite. the priority is dtermined from the nice level |
| 22:54.33 | valdyn | yea... |
| 22:54.35 | simonlnu | has bad typing today... |
| 22:54.39 | ws2k3 | and what aboutt hrt |
| 22:54.47 | ws2k3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:55.34 | valdyn | ws2k3: you can put that process into the real-time class with that |
| 22:55.35 | iluminator101 | valdyn, i did that didnt work its asking for restore file what file type is a evolution restore file |
| 22:55.43 | simonlnu | e.g. there's kernel threads here that have rt priority, but nice level 0. the rest are all 20 prio |
| 22:56.43 | valdyn | ws2k3: actually i dont see SCHED_RT there, i dont have much of an idea about what default kernels support there now |
| 22:57.02 | simonlnu | (except for some threads, but i'm talking about either rt or 20 prio ones) |
| 22:57.14 | ws2k3 | http://wiki.fragaholics.de/index.php/EN:Linux_Optimization_Guide |
| 22:57.29 | ws2k3 | reason i asked because they supply some info here |
| 22:57.35 | ws2k3 | and i just wanted to ask something about that |
| 22:58.49 | simonlnu | # CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED is not set |
| 22:59.42 | ws2k3 | they advice here to use an RT kernel |
| 22:59.53 | ws2k3 | but for the other people u can cron that script they provide |
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| 23:04.17 | bit0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:04.36 | valdyn | bit0: how do you know that you cant load it? |
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| 23:05.27 | bit0 | valdyn, modprobe -v usb-storage | grep usb-storage |
| 23:05.49 | valdyn | bit0: so its already loaded? |
| 23:06.00 | bit0 | valdyn, it shows no lines |
| 23:06.06 | valdyn | bit0: lsmod | grep storage |
| 23:06.10 | bit0 | valdyn, not at all |
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| 23:07.16 | bit0 | valdyn, no output |
| 23:08.08 | valdyn | bit0: grep CONFIG_USB_STORAGE /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 23:08.34 | bit0 | valdyn, CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m |
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| 23:09.02 | bit0 | valdyn, CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG is not set (should I set it?, how?) |
| 23:09.05 | valdyn | bit0: your modprobe is broken if all you said above is true |
| 23:09.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | been having an issue for a couple of day trying this... here is the exact error message I get http://paste.debian.net/159258/ |
| 23:10.00 | valdyn | bit0: anything about it at the end of dmesg? |
| 23:10.21 | simonlnu | bit0: no, you should not. that's for development. it's *extremely* verbose |
| 23:10.37 | simonlnu | the DEBUG setting i meant |
| 23:10.38 | bit0 | simonlnu, thanks |
| 23:10.46 | masterkorp | hello, i am making my first deb package (so im sorry if am asking a stupid question). runing dh_buildeb tells me that ot cant read /debian/tmp/control . this means what ? since the script copied the file it think i have nothing to do with the permissions. Or is it a syntax problem in the control file? (if it is, its a very strange way to tell it) |
| 23:10.47 | bit0 | valdyn, usbcore: deregistering interface driver usb-storage |
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| 23:11.15 | valdyn | bit0: obviously unloading it worked fine |
| 23:11.19 | simonlnu | bit0: should say "registering..." after you re-insert it |
| 23:11.23 | bit0 | http://pastebin.com/kfhR2XwJ |
| 23:11.51 | valdyn | bit0: ok, so you loaded it and someone or -thing unloaded it |
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| 23:12.19 | bit0 | valdyn, yes, for sure |
| 23:12.32 | simonlnu | i'd just modprobe -r it and modprobe it in again |
| 23:12.44 | valdyn | bit0: the actual problem you are trying to solve is what though? |
| 23:12.56 | simonlnu | dunno why some*thing* would do that. certainly not udev. |
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| 23:13.15 | ben1066 | hmm |
| 23:13.22 | valdyn | bit0: i would know how i can make udev do this ( automatically remove usb-storage ) |
| 23:13.22 | ben1066 | seems mythtv with mythweb will work |
| 23:13.36 | bit0 | valdyn, http://pastebin.com/YgtUyn1u |
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| 23:13.58 | bit0 | valdyn, an udev issue? |
| 23:14.10 | valdyn | bit0: grep -iR storage /etc/udev |
| 23:14.11 | masterkorp | any idea ? |
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| 23:15.15 | bit0 | valdyn, yes.. |
| 23:15.25 | valdyn | bit0: yes what? |
| 23:15.37 | bit0 | valdyn, http://pastebin.com/y0v2nzsk |
| 23:16.09 | simonlnu | masterkorp: don't run that separate, run it from debian/rules |
| 23:16.10 | bit0 | valdyn, that was my weird usb-modem ... |
| 23:16.21 | simonlnu | masterkorp: you might want /msg dpkg nmg |
| 23:16.26 | bit0 | valdyn, 9^9 thanks |
| 23:16.31 | valdyn | bit0: welcome |
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| 23:17.22 | simonlnu | a modem using usb-storage o_O |
| 23:17.33 | valdyn | simonlnu: phones |
| 23:17.42 | simonlnu | oh, yes, of course |
| 23:17.58 | valdyn | bit0: theres a special tool to switch modes on phones and similar modems |
| 23:18.05 | simonlnu | so you can get the pix and video and stuff off them |
| 23:18.20 | bit0 | valdyn, yes.. Could be usb-switch? |
| 23:18.31 | simonlnu | !usb-modeswitch |
| 23:18.32 | dpkg | usb_modeswitch is a tool for controlling "flip flop" USB devices, e.g. WAN dongles. This utility can disable the storage device (aka "ZeroCD", containing non-Linux drivers) and enable the serial device. Packaged for Debian as usb-modeswitch, additional devices are supported in version 20100826-1+squeeze0 (part of the <6.0.1> point release). http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ |
| 23:18.57 | bit0 | simonlnu, thanks |
| 23:19.14 | simonlnu | yup |
| 23:21.26 | bit0 | simonlnu, I'd problems with an usb-modem too.. but that's another story |
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| 23:29.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps how do i figure out what repo a package is coming from? |
| 23:30.12 | jelly-home | Eryn_1983_FL: apt-cache policy packagename might help |
| 23:30.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | k |
| 23:32.37 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok So... I am trying to install a fresh install of Squeeze on an Emachine D3315 with AMD Sempron 3300 Processor... I have upgrade the ram from 256MB to 2GB[maximum allowed for the device] DDR SDRAM. when I get to the boot loader, it asks me to install, i click yess to install and i get this message http://paste.debian.net/159258/ |
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| 23:36.28 | tremon | Darkelfjuggalo: please check the install log (alt+f4) |
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| 23:38.53 | jasonalmeida | http://www.wardenbox.com/eng/BuyGifts.aspx Wonderful gift IDEA!!! |
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| 23:43.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | tremon: From inside the Installer? there is no OS on this computer beyond what has managed to install up to the Bootloader |
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| 23:48.30 | guardian | hi, i tried to use "set-variable=local-infile=0" in my.cnf, using mysql 5.5 on debian. then mysql server doesn't restart. did something change regarding this option? |
| 23:48.41 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok i have pulled it up... i will have to hand type the entire thing |
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| 23:50.37 | lenswipe | an |
| 23:50.39 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 23:50.44 | lenswipe | i have a .img file here |
| 23:50.49 | lenswipe | how do i burn that to a CD using Debian? |
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| 23:51.59 | LordShiva | use k3b |
| 23:52.04 | lenswipe | k3b? |
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| 23:52.13 | LordShiva | and burn image |
| 23:52.15 | LordShiva | yeap |
| 23:52.22 | LordShiva | apt-get install k3b |
| 23:52.53 | lenswipe | kl kl |
| 23:53.02 | lenswipe | wikipedia says i can just change the file extention |
| 23:53.05 | lenswipe | is that the case? |
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| 23:55.17 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, run "file" on that file, does it say it's ISO9660? |
| 23:55.20 | dvs | lenswipe: .img could be almost anything |
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| 23:55.25 | sanitypassing | how can I configure apt to use the "bleeding edge" packages? |
| 23:56.09 | streuner_ | if you have to ask, you shouldnt. |
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| 23:56.26 | lenswipe | eng_windows_server_2008_r2_st_ent_dc_web_retail_x64_X15-50365.img: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'GRMSXFRER_EN_DVD ' (bootable) |
| 23:56.30 | lenswipe | thats what i got |
| 23:56.45 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, then it means it's ISO9660 and you can change the extension to .iso |
| 23:56.51 | lenswipe | ok |
| 23:56.57 | lenswipe | :) |
| 23:57.03 | lenswipe | if that doesnt work can i just change it back? |
| 23:57.50 | thewanderer1 | eh, sure - why not? |
| 23:57.54 | lenswipe | l |
| 23:57.54 | lenswipe | k |
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