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| 00:01.24 | dutchfish | streuner, btw the youtube no sound issue i worked around some time ago ;) |
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| 00:08.25 | dutchfish | streuner, no worry i try it tommorrow again, or figure it out by source |
| 00:08.33 | dutchfish | streuner, thanks for trying |
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| 00:10.04 | neoice | is there a reason debian doenst remove old users/groups when the service/package is purged? |
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| 00:11.47 | jelly-home | are you sure you purged the package that created those users and groups |
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| 00:12.57 | neoice | jelly-home: fairly sure. it happens frequently, so I'm guessing it's a specific package issue |
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| 00:14.28 | abrotman | neoice: which user ? |
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| 00:15.10 | neoice | abrotman: lets see... I have groups for kvm, fuse, rdma (kvm and fuse have been uninstalled already) |
| 00:15.56 | neoice | on my dev box, zabbix is left over, so is "ais" which I dont even know what that belongs to |
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| 00:16.29 | neoice | debian-exim (I think that one can't be removed. at least that was the case in a previous release) |
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| 00:16.49 | abrotman | neoice: grep kvm /var/lib/dpkg/info/* | grep deluser .. see anything ? |
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| 00:17.50 | neoice | abrotman: I see an `addgroup` in post-inst and that's it. |
| 00:18.03 | abrotman | neoice: kind of answers your questoin .. |
| 00:18.18 | neoice | so it's something that packagers need to manage on every package? |
| 00:18.27 | abrotman | neoice: now if you do 'grep ntp /var/lib/dpkg/info/* | grep deluser' .. on my box, it returns something |
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| 00:19.10 | neoice | abrotman: is there some sort of policy regarding adding/deleting users/groups? is this a bug on each package? |
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| 00:19.34 | themill | neoice: there was a recent (lengthy) discussion on the debian-devel mailing list about it |
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| 00:20.54 | abrotman | neoice: i don't think it's a true bug, but you could file a wishlist bug .. it's easy for them to fix |
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| 00:22.07 | themill | it's not like you're going to run out of UIDs though... |
| 00:22.59 | neoice | themill: would you mind throwing me a link or the subject? |
| 00:23.57 | neoice | the issue isnt running out of UIDs though. I'm trying to audit my systems so I can determine what users/groups I actually need |
| 00:24.04 | themill | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/03/msg01174.html |
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| 00:24.38 | themill | as liw states there, it's unclear whether system users should be removed on package removal |
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| 00:24.59 | abrotman | what if they did a 'passwd -l' on them to ensure they were locked ? |
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| 00:25.41 | technologov_ | hi, I have written Automated Debian installer for VirtualBox ! Anybody would like to join me ? |
| 00:25.54 | abrotman | that's a sohrt thread |
| 00:25.59 | neoice | it is |
| 00:26.05 | abrotman | technologov_: it's already packaged in Debian |
| 00:26.24 | neoice | I like the first response. it's basically lock&flag the account |
| 00:26.34 | neoice | since then it's easier to automate |
| 00:27.03 | technologov_ | abrotman, no no no.. I did some new technology... new level of integration between Debian and VirtualBox. This is _not_ packaged. |
| 00:27.05 | neoice | the only way I can be reasonably certain an account is unneccesary is by running a `find` and specifying uid/gid |
| 00:27.43 | technologov_ | I integrated Debian at the d-i preseed level, which was impossible before. |
| 00:28.13 | technologov_ | I'm just asking if some Debian users would like to test it... |
| 00:28.35 | technologov_ | https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46798&p=211198#p211198 |
| 00:29.56 | themill | abrotman, neoice: thread continues into the next month; (hate MHonArc) |
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| 00:31.45 | neoice | themill: thanks, link: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg00210.html |
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| 00:37.41 | simonlnu | it's a themill ! |
| 00:37.50 | dvs | run! |
| 00:38.12 | simonlnu | runs away "*tongue in cheek*" |
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| 00:55.16 | Zaraphrax | Does anyone know of a way to stop vpnc over-writing DNS entries? Or at least allow me to specify which DNS servers I'd like to use. |
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| 00:58.40 | fr0ggie | Flash player on armel squeeze? |
| 00:59.02 | kgoetz | coreutils on s390x woody |
| 00:59.55 | fr0ggie | I cant seem to find flashplayer anyone in the non-free repo and its really ruinning my day :\ |
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| 01:00.25 | simonlnu | kgoetz: hehe |
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| 01:00.48 | kgoetz | fr0ggie: you're surprised that adobe dont build it for armel? |
| 01:00.56 | edvar[d] | back |
| 01:01.23 | simonlnu | fr0ggie: um, that won't run on !x86 |
| 01:01.35 | edvar[d] | installin firmware-linux-nonfree worked to get my ati card working on a new wheezy install |
| 01:01.39 | kgoetz | edvar[d]: so we see, please don't bother to announce it |
| 01:01.45 | edvar[d] | :D |
| 01:01.52 | kgoetz | edvar[d]: (: |
| 01:02.31 | fr0ggie | kgoetz: Damn right i am. It used to be there.. i wonder if i can transplant the one from UnspeakableHorribleOS (TM) |
| 01:03.03 | edvar[d] | i gots a new prob though |
| 01:03.50 | edvar[d] | I had a bunch of stuff I'm trying to run from /opt and it all says "no such file or directory" |
| 01:03.56 | edvar[d] | permissions are all good |
| 01:04.22 | edvar[d] | even copied to my home dir and changed owner |
| 01:04.26 | edvar[d] | still won't go |
| 01:04.57 | kgoetz | edvar[d]: 'stuff'? |
| 01:05.07 | edvar[d] | spicebird |
| 01:05.14 | edvar[d] | eagle |
| 01:05.37 | edvar[d] | y'know, things I compile or downloaded binaries |
| 01:05.38 | kgoetz | what file(s) or directories does it say its missing? |
| 01:05.53 | edvar[d] | whatever I'm trying to run |
| 01:05.58 | edvar[d] | i cd into the directory |
| 01:06.05 | edvar[d] | tell it to run the binary |
| 01:06.11 | edvar[d] | and it gives me the error |
| 01:06.26 | kgoetz | pastebin it please, we still don't have much info to go on |
| 01:06.36 | edvar[d] | ok |
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| 01:10.40 | edvar[d] | http://pastebin.com/hq3bZXb6 |
| 01:12.16 | edvar[d] | so the file is there, it's executable, I have permission to run it, WTH? |
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| 01:13.14 | kgoetz | please run `file ./bin/eagle` |
| 01:13.59 | edvar[d] | hmm... this doesn't look good |
| 01:14.18 | edvar[d] | $ file ./bin/eagle ./bin/eagle: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped |
| 01:15.08 | edvar[d] | for GNU/Linux 2.6.4... I'm running 3.1.0-1 |
| 01:16.26 | kgoetz | you running 32 or 64bit debian? |
| 01:16.40 | edvar[d] | 64-bit |
| 01:16.51 | edvar[d] | but i ran the same program in stable and it was fine |
| 01:16.57 | edvar[d] | same with spicebird |
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| 01:17.17 | edvar[d] | ./spicebird-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped |
| 01:17.34 | kgoetz | if you have util-linux try with linux32 ./foo/bar . if not, you might have to hit the google. |
| 01:17.37 | kgoetz | is heading afk for a bit |
| 01:17.48 | edvar[d] | k thx for advice |
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| 01:21.50 | socomm | How can I add a service to start at X level. |
| 01:21.56 | edvar[d] | kgoetz: i need a swift kick... didn't install ia32-libs |
| 01:22.01 | edvar[d] | that did the trick |
| 01:22.02 | abrotman | !tell socomm about lsb tags |
| 01:22.05 | socomm | As an example lets say I'd like to have sshd to start at run level 3 or something. |
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| 01:22.26 | kgoetz | edvar[d]: ah, well discovered :) |
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| 01:22.48 | abrotman | socomm: update-rc.d .. but in Debian, 2-5 are the same |
| 01:23.26 | socomm | abrotman: thank you |
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| 01:26.10 | jarray52 | grub2 can't seem to find all my kernels. Any suggestions? |
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| 01:43.14 | aristarchus | do i need to recompile the kernel to write to a ufs2 partition? |
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| 01:43.52 | abrotman | i can't imagine ... isn't that pretty old ? |
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| 01:49.41 | aristarchus | i don't think so |
| 01:49.50 | aristarchus | freebsd uses it |
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| 01:55.54 | ebzzry | Hi! Is the use of GNOME 3 shell extensions currently not enabled in Testing? |
| 01:56.23 | abrotman | ebzzry: gnome-shell 3.2 isn't in testing yet |
| 01:56.55 | ebzzry | abrotman: Ah, yeah. |
| 01:57.18 | ebzzry | abrotman: I see that my version of gnome-shell is 3.0.2. I didn't know that it requires 3.2 |
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| 01:57.35 | abrotman | ebzzry: see the website for the extensions |
| 01:57.48 | ebzzry | abrotman: what website, the gnome one? |
| 01:58.11 | abrotman | the extensions website |
| 01:58.33 | ice799 | Hi. I want to look at the libpcap debian packaging. Where do I find it? |
| 01:58.43 | ebzzry | abrotman: ok |
| 01:58.46 | abrotman | packages.debian.org/libpcap |
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| 01:59.35 | ebzzry | thanks for the tip, abrotman. |
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| 02:15.19 | xwalk | Is there a way to disable the system beeps I get from my computer? Hearing a beep in the middle of a song is getting old. |
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| 02:15.37 | abrotman | !bell |
| 02:15.37 | dpkg | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. See also <pcspkr>, <shell beep>, <metacity bell bug>. |
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| 02:15.55 | xwalk | abrotman: Thanks for that. |
| 02:16.18 | bfig | my hwclock has the correct time, but my xfce clock widget has a different hour. how can i change the xfce clock time? |
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| 02:17.07 | abrotman | !set the time |
| 02:17.07 | dpkg | To set the time on Debian systems, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. Also verify the system's UTC setting and set the correct time zone; ask me about <utc>, <timezone>. |
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| 02:22.19 | firespeaker | are there any known issues with isolinux in the stable amd64 netinst image not loading properly on Fusion processors? |
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| 02:28.29 | lduros | is debian sid running gnome 3.2? |
| 02:29.22 | firespeaker | ironically, this amd64 image boots fine (from the same drive!) on a Pentium D. Nfi why it's not working on the AMD Fusion machine |
| 02:30.45 | firespeaker | burns a testing disc |
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| 02:40.12 | xwalk | !list directory contents |
| 02:40.26 | xwalk | Apparently that doesn't work for me. =/ |
| 02:41.17 | firespeaker | the testing image does the same thing |
| 02:41.23 | firespeaker | isolinux keeps throwing a disk error |
| 02:41.42 | firespeaker | but the drive works fine on the the other computer :( |
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| 02:43.27 | abrotman | xwalk: 'ls' ? |
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| 02:46.31 | jordanm | real men use printf '%s\n' * :P |
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| 02:50.01 | cardamon | Fresh install, fresh brain. |
| 02:50.18 | cardamon | Well, okay, maybe the brain isn't too fresh. |
| 02:50.25 | xwalk | abrotman: For some reason I didn't think it would do what I wanted to in the script I'm writing. |
| 02:51.08 | agike | Hi, my xfce4 wheezy/sid system this morning finds workplace-switcher is not working, everything is on one screen, and gnome-terminal is lacking the top options bar. At top of screen is "file, edit, view, search, terminal, help". Any chance of a fix, especially workplace-switcher ? I usually have about 15 or more open for productivity. |
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| 02:52.02 | xwalk | Wasn't there supposed to be a man page for shopt? |
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| 02:52.53 | simonlnu | jordanm: hehe |
| 02:53.00 | cardamon | Time to remember how to fix Xorg. I know there's a wiki page that covers it...IIRC I need to get either the free or nonfree nvidia drivers. |
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| 03:02.36 | cardamon | There's a bot that I can the lscpi id tag for a device into and it tells me the drivers associated, right? |
| 03:02.50 | cardamon | I forget the syntax to do it. |
| 03:03.31 | cardamon | Also apparently entire words. |
| 03:03.44 | simonlnu | ,pciid xxxx:yyyy |
| 03:03.50 | simonlnu | ,pciids xxxx:yyyy |
| 03:04.04 | simonlnu | woops, former |
| 03:04.08 | cardamon | ,pciid 10de:0e08 |
| 03:04.09 | judd | [10de:0e08] is 'HDMI Audio stub' from 'nVidia Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'nvidiafb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:0e08 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 03:04.22 | cardamon | ,pciid 10de:1040 |
| 03:04.23 | judd | [10de:1040] is 'GF119 [GeForce GT 520]' from 'nVidia Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'nvidiafb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:1040 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 03:04.44 | abrotman | done yet? :) |
| 03:05.00 | simonlnu | you can also /msg judd |
| 03:05.05 | abrotman | or just feed the website |
| 03:05.15 | simonlnu | *nod* |
| 03:05.16 | cardamon | Yes. I let you get back to your wall of quit/joins |
| 03:05.20 | cardamon | :P |
| 03:05.42 | simonlnu | heh |
| 03:06.26 | abrotman | thanks .. better than wathcing someone play with teh bot |
| 03:06.54 | cardamon | Okay, well, silly question then. Where do you look for kernal modules? |
| 03:07.26 | abrotman | cardamon: they shuld be loaded without your intervention |
| 03:07.39 | abrotman | it's only when you know you need something out of the tree |
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| 03:07.58 | firespeaker | agh, I'll just try the windows installer |
| 03:08.04 | firespeaker | probably should've done that to start with |
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| 03:09.13 | cardamon | abrotman: Yes, but if I want say nvidiafb and nouveau is running, I have to get, somehow, nvidiafb and insmod it and blacklist nouveau, right? |
| 03:09.37 | abrotman | and what does that have to do with asking the bot? |
| 03:09.55 | cardamon | nothing... |
| 03:09.59 | abrotman | okay then .. |
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| 03:10.51 | cardamon | I get the feeling you're not understanding me. I asked where you find the kernel module. There doesn't appear to be a package floating around named nvidiafb |
| 03:12.55 | firespeaker | win32-loader even for amd64 eh |
| 03:13.20 | firespeaker | can't stand another minute of windows on this new machine |
| 03:14.36 | firespeaker | "this program may damage your files. do you wish to run it?" |
| 03:14.45 | firespeaker | PLEASE |
| 03:14.51 | abrotman | firespeaker: goodbye-microsoft.com ? does that still install Debian ? |
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| 03:16.08 | firespeaker | I saw that when I was searching, but it looked a little sketchy |
| 03:16.12 | firespeaker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32-loader_(Debian) |
| 03:16.15 | firespeaker | that looked less sketchy |
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| 03:18.52 | cardamon | apt-get can't find the packages I'm looking for. Which is weird. They're in contrib, but I added it. |
| 03:19.02 | cardamon | Is my sources.list wrong? |
| 03:19.14 | cardamon | deb http://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib |
| 03:19.54 | abrotman | which package? did you aptitude update ? |
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| 03:20.08 | cardamon | abrotman: ah |
| 03:20.20 | cardamon | abrotman: I derped and did not update. |
| 03:20.42 | abrotman | derped ? |
| 03:20.46 | abrotman | burped? |
| 03:21.31 | cardamon | abrotman: 4chanism. herp, derp, and all derivations thereof refer to doing something dumb. Or not doing something smart. |
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| 03:23.10 | Vasistha | hmm, I am connected via wireless, however scanning is not working :-( |
| 03:23.20 | Vasistha | that is going to make it difficult to connect to other networks... |
| 03:23.34 | Vasistha | wlan0 Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 03:23.42 | abrotman | cardamon: all sorted out ? |
| 03:24.08 | cardamon | abrotman: Sorted. Compiling now. |
| 03:24.16 | cardamon | Er, not compiling. |
| 03:24.47 | cardamon | is too used to portage, it's almost scary. |
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| 03:29.05 | nsadmin | Vasistha, so far for me iwlist scan works, but the nm stuff isn't... so I manually scan and pick a net to hook to, editing interfaces and doing ifup wlan0 (or something) |
| 03:29.34 | nsadmin | I bring it up because maybe it's the same for you |
| 03:30.05 | Vasistha | nsadmin: that "failed to read scan data" was the output from /sbin/iwconfig |
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| 03:31.10 | Vasistha | I'm using wicd anyway... which I think is more compatible with CLI... if I'm not mistaken, it issues the same commands that one would if doing so manually, so it's easy to go back and forth |
| 03:31.14 | zykotick9 | nsadmin: if you are having nm problems with wireless - do you have GDM/KVM installed (i found out it's required by n-m for wireless this weekend) |
| 03:31.36 | tonytraductor | can I run debian on a 3core AMD apu? My phenom xeon machine's mobo apparently died |
| 03:31.38 | Vasistha | zykotick9: I'm having wireless issues, though I'm using wicd not nm |
| 03:31.48 | nsadmin | hmm, I haven't upgraded to this weekend :) |
| 03:31.50 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: sure. |
| 03:31.57 | tonytraductor | #hardware had me convinced it was the psu, but it wasn't so, so now I must get a mobo (and or mobo+cpu) |
| 03:31.59 | abrotman | tonytraductor: why not ? |
| 03:32.02 | nsadmin | it's been wednesday now for like 2 months! |
| 03:32.12 | tonytraductor | but I need to get data from the sata drive that was in the amd machine |
| 03:32.43 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: that shouldn't be an issue, just plug it in |
| 03:32.47 | tonytraductor | if I try to run the same hdd that had my amd64 debian install, will it work with the 3core amd chip? |
| 03:32.50 | tonytraductor | ok |
| 03:32.59 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: yeah it ought to work fine |
| 03:33.05 | tonytraductor | well, I only had the one machine that was amd64 and supported sata drives |
| 03:33.13 | tonytraductor | so I stillcan't get my data |
| 03:33.27 | tonytraductor | this machine is an older celeron with ide drives |
| 03:33.37 | tonytraductor | I got a new psu today, and the other machine still won't start. |
| 03:33.43 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: ah, yeah, I have an external enclosure for that purpose |
| 03:33.53 | tonytraductor | the coolmax support guy says it must have been the mobo, not the psu |
| 03:34.05 | tonytraductor | I back up to an external usb drive, but not as regularly as I should |
| 03:34.23 | cardamon | Alright. Failed right out of the gate. xorg crashes. http://pastebin.com/V7wnC9D4 |
| 03:34.24 | tonytraductor | I keep the back up drive off/unplugged between back ups, so have nothing automated |
| 03:34.31 | Vasistha | well all your data should still be intact anyway |
| 03:34.41 | tonytraductor | I only lost access to about 1 weeks work, but it was 1 week of work translating Raphael's book |
| 03:34.49 | tonytraductor | the Debian Admin Handbook. |
| 03:35.33 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: I dunno what part of the world you're in, but in the US anyway it's pretty easy to find external hard drives on craigslist. get one (which is a sata), take out the drive and put yours in, bingo, your data via usb |
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| 03:36.41 | tonytraductor | I have a couple of external drives on hand already |
| 03:37.00 | tonytraductor | do you mean, I can take them apart and stick the other drive in? |
| 03:37.42 | tonytraductor | I don't see how to get these apart |
| 03:37.58 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: they vary, but it's usually not too difficult |
| 03:37.59 | tonytraductor | I can't live forever on this old celeron 3.2gz machine, anyway |
| 03:38.13 | abrotman | old .. heh |
| 03:38.17 | dvs | 3.2GHz? |
| 03:38.17 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: if they're old they might be ide's though which won't help any |
| 03:38.33 | Vasistha | he doesn't really know what "old" is |
| 03:39.04 | tonytraductor | one is only a year old, a 1.5tb drive, the other is an older 350gb drive (that is likely ide) |
| 03:39.07 | tensorpudding | how old is old? |
| 03:39.21 | tonytraductor | but the case is completely enclosed, not even any screws to disassemble it |
| 03:39.31 | tonytraductor | the old one is a maxtor one touch thingy |
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| 03:40.33 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: you might need to pull it apart, find a seam or something. sounds like they made it difficult. you can do it :) |
| 03:40.37 | cardamon | xorg failed, http://pastebin.com/V7wnC9D4 (please confirm if the link works, as I can't). from what the log and lsmod say, it looks like no module is getting loaded. |
| 03:41.21 | abrotman | w3m doesn't work for you ? |
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| 03:41.45 | cardamon | w3m? |
| 03:42.07 | abrotman | cardamon: it says to check your kenrel error log |
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| 03:44.39 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: btw, I dunno how old your 350gb is, but it might also be sata... worth looking, if it's easier to open |
| 03:45.30 | tonytraductor | that's about 4 or 5 years old |
| 03:46.45 | cardamon | http://pastebin.com/QWTmDaj3 I see "module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel" but the guide said to ignore that. |
| 03:47.48 | cardamon | I don't see anything useful, however, in /var/log/kern.log |
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| 03:51.33 | cardamon | hmm |
| 03:51.37 | abrotman | checked syslog and messages? |
| 03:51.52 | tonytraductor | I think I'm just going to get a 2.6gz 4core cpu+mobo bundle |
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| 03:52.08 | tonytraductor | I'm going to have to get ram, too, apparently, because it needs ddr3, and what I have here is ddr2 |
| 03:52.12 | abrotman | cardamon: you do see where it says it failed to find a device ? |
| 03:53.20 | Vasistha | tonytraductor: yeah, I ran into that recently... went to the store to replace a mobo, and ended up walking out with mobo, cpu, ram, and a case :P |
| 03:53.31 | Vasistha | ...and a laser pointer |
| 03:53.35 | cardamon | abrotman: No, but I do see http://pastebinit.com/9C55a3GQ |
| 03:54.01 | tonytraductor | it's always like that |
| 03:54.06 | cardamon | abrotman: the results of cat /var/log/kern.log | grep NVRM |
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| 03:54.26 | tonytraductor | this mobo+cpu bundle says it supports 64gb of ram...unless I'm reading it wrong |
| 03:54.50 | abrotman | cardamon: line 1540 & 1546 seem useful |
| 03:54.52 | Vasistha | hrm. well this is really lousy that I can't seem to get a wireless scan! I need to go out, too. I wonder if I should troubleshoot first. |
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| 03:55.18 | Vasistha | It was working earlier, too... when I first installed squeeze, I remember I had a list coming up in wicd-curses |
| 03:55.19 | dvs | tonytraductor: which MB maker? |
| 03:55.24 | Vasistha | wonder what happened to it. damn. |
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| 03:55.55 | Vasistha | oh well, time to go, can't troubleshoot connections if I'm staying online to chat on irc. |
| 03:56.55 | cardamon | abrotman: Right...didn't see anything about not finding a device. Just says I'm S.O.L. on using this module on this device. |
| 03:57.00 | elseif | hi , i purchase a server today , i tell them install latest debian version , but now i have debian 5 (lenny) , my question is : upgrade from lenny to squeeze is safe or can broke the system ? |
| 03:57.54 | jordanm | !tell elseif about lenny->squeeze |
| 03:57.59 | nutron | q: I ran across some numbers to set GREP_COLOR to when using a 256 color terminal. I wonder if any of you know what to google for to understand what the string of numbers represents so that I may create my own? ... eg: export GREP_COLOR='00;38;5;157;32;5;226' |
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| 03:58.10 | abrotman | cardamon: what device do you actually have? is it maybe supported by teh legacy driver? ormaybe something newer? |
| 03:58.15 | cardamon | abrotman: Is there a solution to that? I need a newer driver then? |
| 03:58.17 | Vasistha | oh well that is interesting, I can only scan when I am disconnected. well I guess that is not so bad. |
| 03:58.18 | abrotman | cardamon: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 03:58.49 | elseif | jordanm: thanks :) |
| 03:59.09 | jordanm | elseif: is this a real server or a VPS? |
| 03:59.13 | cardamon | ,,pciid 10de:1040 |
| 03:59.24 | cardamon | ...that didn't work. |
| 03:59.24 | abrotman | cardamon: that's not what i asked for .. the bot won't help you |
| 03:59.38 | abrotman | -nn was intentional |
| 04:00.05 | cardamon | abrotman: copying and pasting is hard right now...in fact I don't know how. |
| 04:00.12 | elseif | jordanm: yeah its real server , dedicated server |
| 04:00.13 | abrotman | cardamon: are you IRCing from the same box ? |
| 04:00.17 | Vasistha | cardamon: then just type it manually, it's not that much |
| 04:00.18 | cardamon | Oui. |
| 04:00.25 | jordanm | elseif: should be fine to upgrade then |
| 04:00.39 | abrotman | cardamon: in your IRC client, type "/exec -o lspci -nn | grep VGA" |
| 04:00.49 | elseif | jordanm: yeah , itry it |
| 04:00.58 | cardamon | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:1040] (rev a1) |
| 04:01.03 | abrotman | voila! |
| 04:01.13 | abrotman | cardamon: now run 'update-pciids' .. then do that again |
| 04:01.45 | cardamon | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] [10de:1040] (rev a1) |
| 04:01.54 | abrotman | much better ... seems pretty new? |
| 04:02.01 | cardamon | The bot actually would have told you that part. |
| 04:02.09 | cardamon | If I'd done it right. |
| 04:02.11 | abrotman | maybe, maybe not .. doesn't matter .. |
| 04:02.34 | cardamon | Fairly recent yes. |
| 04:02.44 | tonytraductor | running debian with openbox and not a lot of gui bloat on that machine, a 2.8ghz xeon with 4gb of ram was awesome. |
| 04:02.46 | cardamon | I built the box in September. |
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| 04:02.52 | abrotman | so the version of nvidia in squeeze probably won't work ? is there a newer versoin in squeeze-backports ? |
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| 04:03.11 | elseif | abrotman: we have same VGA , what is the problem ? |
| 04:03.13 | tonytraductor | so, running debian with openbox on a 2.6hz 4core with 16gb of ram is probably going to blow me away completely |
| 04:03.28 | abrotman | elseif: we do not .. you and he may .. i don't buy nvidia |
| 04:03.38 | abrotman | !tell cardamon about bpo |
| 04:03.50 | elseif | abrotman: oh sorry , wrong highlight |
| 04:04.09 | abrotman | wanders off |
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| 04:06.52 | nsadmin | ran debian on a 2.6hz rock |
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| 04:07.14 | cardamon | fiddle sticks. I'm just gonna move to wheezy. |
| 04:07.18 | civillian | that's a quick rock... |
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| 04:08.49 | nsadmin | started booting the installer in 2007... I think the boot loader will start by the time wheezy releases |
| 04:09.20 | dvs | heh |
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| 04:12.19 | cardamon | Ugh. I just spent five minutes talking to a guy about why my thing doesn't work and his does...and figure out he's talking about a different distro. Truely, I have never felt so at home in #debian. |
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| 04:20.35 | tonytraductor | running squeeze on the 2.8gz athlon with 4gb ram was so instant, it was awesome. |
| 04:21.22 | tonytraductor | running on the 4core apu with 16gb ram, the machine is probably going to do stuff before I even ask it to....it's going to like time travel and read my mind or something |
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| 04:24.33 | tonytraductor | probably good I got this mobo bundle before they start putting the eufi crap on them |
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| 04:25.33 | operhiem1 | Would it be straightforward for me to generate an image with this patch applied? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451535 |
| 04:25.36 | dvs | tonytraductor: but you cant use drives overv2TB |
| 04:25.40 | operhiem1 | **installer image |
| 04:26.45 | tonytraductor | my hdd is only 1tb, and I'm only using like 15% of it |
| 04:27.03 | tonytraductor | oh, no, I |
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| 04:28.05 | tonytraductor | I'm using 26% of / and 32% of /home, but all toghet I; ve got about 55gb use and 145gb free. |
| 04:28.10 | tonytraductor | I'm good for a while. |
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| 04:28.29 | tonytraductor | I could delete a lot of stuff, too, that's already saved on my 1.5tb external back up drive thingy |
| 04:28.33 | nsadmin | you using lvm |
| 04:28.35 | nsadmin | ? |
| 04:28.42 | tonytraductor | no |
| 04:28.58 | nsadmin | hmm... I would think it would be handy in your case |
| 04:29.32 | tonytraductor | probably would be |
| 04:30.05 | nsadmin | it's a problem for another day if you're still trying to get the data off the sata disk |
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| 04:44.59 | AzMoo | Hello! I have a server running Debian Squeeze, but need an updated version of Squid that supports the "intercept" syntax in squid.conf. Is there a way I can get an updated version? I noticed that even in sid they're still using 2.7 (even though we're up to 3.2?!) |
| 04:45.51 | anima | AzMoo: goto the squid website, download new version, compile, install |
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| 04:46.35 | AzMoo | anima: I was hoping more for an unsupported repository or something. |
| 04:47.35 | anima | AzMoo: why ? its easy to build from source |
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| 04:48.49 | AzMoo | anima: Because systems are easier to manage when everything's using package management, and it's a lot easier to document adding a new repo than it is to document a specific build procedure. |
| 04:49.07 | cardamon | AzMoo: check to see if there's a backport of the version you want. |
| 04:49.10 | nsadmin | you might be able to "backport" which involves getting a later version of debianized sources and running a "build the package" script |
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| 04:50.04 | nsadmin | this would be a better scenario than just building since doing that makes it harder to clean up/uninstall/replace an install |
| 04:50.28 | Rusty1 | apt-cache policy squid3 ? |
| 04:51.13 | AzMoo | Rusty1: oh that's awesome, thanks. |
| 04:51.38 | nsadmin | what's the package for control panel for synaptics touchpad? |
| 04:52.12 | AzMoo | nsadmin, cardamon: Thanks for the backport idea too, I'll remember that for the future. |
| 04:53.03 | nsadmin | !ssb |
| 04:53.03 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 04:54.37 | nsadmin | also you may not need as new as sid, maybe testing/wheezy is new enough |
| 04:57.55 | nsadmin | one thing implied is there may be a backport already prepared and you can just download/install |
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| 05:16.47 | AndyManly | guys I need help :( |
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| 05:21.22 | cardamon | AndyManly: Don't ask to ask. |
| 05:21.32 | cardamon | Just ask. |
| 05:21.57 | AndyManly | ok well, for a long time I've had this issue where my computer will freeze up for no observable reason |
| 05:22.15 | AndyManly | that's pretty much the gist of it. I've poured over various log files and I haven't been able to find the cause anywhere |
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| 05:26.58 | cardamon | AndyManly: Try describing the exact nature. What is the screen doing? Can you switch to console? What does kernel log say? Is X freezing, or are even consoles affected? Vague questions get vague responses, and vague problems get vague solutions. If they get anything at all. |
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| 05:27.34 | AndyManly | cardamon, it's a complete lockup. I can't move my mouse, use my keyboard, drop to console, or do anything |
| 05:27.46 | AndyManly | the kernel never seems to give me any answers, but I'm going to check it again just to be sure... |
| 05:28.45 | cardamon | AndyManly: How about SysRq? |
| 05:29.26 | cardamon | Ctrl + SysRq + R, Ctrl + SysRq + B usually always work. |
| 05:30.12 | cardamon | And try pastebining your kernel log and including that when you ask about it. |
| 05:30.46 | AndyManly | do those two button combinations do different things |
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| 05:30.49 | AndyManly | or just the same thing |
| 05:30.52 | dwfreed | s/Ctrl/Alt/ |
| 05:31.14 | cardamon | dwfreed: I knew it was one of those. |
| 05:31.16 | AndyManly | so its |
| 05:31.17 | cardamon | >_> |
| 05:31.20 | cardamon | yawns |
| 05:31.20 | AndyManly | alt + sysrq + r |
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| 05:31.36 | cardamon | Uh huh. b reboots. |
| 05:31.42 | cardamon | Pretty hard. |
| 05:31.59 | AndyManly | but what does R do |
| 05:32.13 | cardamon | But if the freeze is that bad, damage is already likely done to anything in the middle of a write. |
| 05:32.22 | cardamon | I don't know. |
| 05:32.36 | cardamon | But usually I mash one then mash the other. |
| 05:32.37 | xwalk | !shopt |
| 05:32.46 | AndyManly | ok then |
| 05:32.50 | cardamon | I'm worst user ever. |
| 05:32.52 | AndyManly | now it's time to try and get this thing to freeze |
| 05:33.37 | AndyManly | running virtualbox. sometimes that freezes it, sometimes it doesn't |
| 05:33.43 | AndyManly | i hate errors that are hard to replicate :/ |
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| 05:35.14 | AndyManly | Jan 11 00:33:17 SteveJobs kernel: [37076.456088] warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use) |
| 05:35.21 | AndyManly | would that potentially cause issues |
| 05:39.56 | technologov | vbox is pretty stable those days. |
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| 05:40.01 | technologov | I use it quite a lot. |
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| 05:40.36 | technologov | (but it needs some stable branch) |
| 05:41.47 | nevyn | r is remount readonly |
| 05:42.05 | nevyn | hrm no that's U |
| 05:42.19 | nevyn | Sync Unmount reBoot |
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| 05:47.29 | cardamon | nevyn: name sounds familiar. Either you've read Katherine Kerr or(non-exclusive) you played on a neverwinter server I did way back when. |
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| 05:47.41 | AndyManly | okay I got it to crash |
| 05:47.46 | AndyManly | kern.log paste coming up |
| 05:47.49 | cardamon | Hooray? |
| 05:48.02 | AndyManly | yeah really LOL |
| 05:48.06 | AndyManly | http://pastebin.com/XPZQfc3e |
| 05:48.31 | cardamon | I can't click links. Still sussing my own problem. |
| 05:49.54 | AndyManly | oh and the SysRq key didn't work |
| 05:50.00 | AndyManly | even trying all of those key combinations |
| 05:51.28 | xwalk | Where can I find the TERM variable? I looked through profile, .profile, .bashrc, and bash.bashrc and couldn't find any variables regarding which terminal was being set to TERM. |
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| 05:58.48 | nsadmin | xwalk, do you understand how env vars work? |
| 06:01.14 | nsadmin | in the particular case of TERM, a terminal emulator will send its type to the process started on that term, said process should respond by setting its own TERM var to the value received from the terminal emulator |
| 06:01.51 | nsadmin | lots of times, the process which is started is a shell |
| 06:02.51 | xwalk | Well, my TERM variable is set to xterm, but whenever something executes a terminal gnome-terminal is launched. And to answer your question, no I don't fully understand them. |
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| 06:02.57 | nevyn | civillian: kerr |
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| 06:03.53 | symptom | Having an issue with atheros AR9285 similar to the one that was seen in Ubuntu 11.04 (i think) where the wireless interface will randomly disconnect on a regular basis. I believe this is the Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/660864 does anyone know if this has been fixed for squeeze? |
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| 06:05.32 | symptom | or if there is a similar work around as provided in the bug list? |
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| 06:09.05 | slonopotamus | having Super Cow Powers of dpkg and apt-get, how i determine which packages were manually installed and not automatically pulled in as a dependency of other package? |
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| 06:11.13 | slonopotamus | (yes, i did 15 mins of googling) |
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| 06:13.42 | symptom | slonopotamus, Ive never done this before, so Im not sure of the best way to do it. You could check the log. /var/log/apt |
| 06:14.12 | nvz | slonopotamus: its actually easiest to do that with something like aptitude or synaptic |
| 06:15.16 | timo | slonopotamus: i use debfoster to keep track of manually installed packages. there are other tools like that, too |
| 06:16.46 | slonopotamus | timo: as i understand, apt-get already knows what is manually installed (how apt-get --autoremove would work otherwise?). i just don't see how to get a list |
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| 06:18.04 | timo | slonopotamus: you may be right, but unfortunately i don't know either |
| 06:18.37 | nvz | slonopotamus: apt-mark showauto |
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| 06:20.14 | symptom | nvz, does showauto show both the packages that were installed as deps to manually installed packages, AND packages installed at OS install time? |
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| 06:21.20 | nvz | symptom: are you running a linux os? |
| 06:21.32 | symptom | ye |
| 06:21.33 | symptom | s |
| 06:21.37 | symptom | squeeze |
| 06:22.24 | symptom | im refering to packages installed after selecting options during the deb install. |
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| 06:22.36 | nvz | symptom: well they invented this awesome concept of man pages back in the early 70's and debian comes with em. haha. |
| 06:22.40 | symptom | Desktop Environment, laptop, ssh server, etc |
| 06:23.09 | nvz | in fact debian is a project well known for going out of its way to provide more documentation than any |
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| 06:24.41 | symptom | yea... I actually read the man page before I asked a question. I make a habit of that. Its ok if you dont know. |
| 06:24.59 | symptom | It really not that important. |
| 06:24.59 | tensorpudding | manpages are actually not very original, other systems came with documentation before that, and have since |
| 06:25.13 | tensorpudding | and manpages often don't have all the information you want or have it in a form that is painful to read |
| 06:25.19 | symptom | I believe Richie wrote the first man page.... |
| 06:25.33 | symptom | RIP |
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| 06:25.39 | tensorpudding | the original unix documentation was just manpages and they were really crummy |
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| 06:26.06 | tensorpudding | but back then the advice was to write or email to the owner of whatever it is that is being dealt with |
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| 06:26.14 | symptom | hahaha |
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| 06:26.24 | tensorpudding | the "owner" being the person who touched it last |
| 06:26.34 | tensorpudding | let me find the bitsavers pdf |
| 06:26.38 | symptom | funny how RTFM->asking somone else |
| 06:26.39 | lkthomas | hey guys, does stunnel config file accept domain instead of IP address on accept and connect field ? |
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| 06:26.54 | symptom | im logging |
| 06:26.57 | nvz | symptom: I read it before you asked too |
| 06:26.57 | symptom | night all. |
| 06:27.17 | tensorpudding | eh |
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| 06:27.24 | tensorpudding | no point posting a link here, it's offtopi |
| 06:27.25 | tensorpudding | c |
| 06:27.26 | nvz | actually still has the apt-mark manpage open in the other screen window |
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| 06:27.49 | tensorpudding | using ancient unix sure is weird |
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| 06:29.39 | sivsivrogo1 | !kernel |
| 06:29.41 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, mainline 3: 3.2 , stable 3.1: 3.1.8 , stable 3.0: 3.0.16 , stable 2.6.39: 2.6.39.4 , stable 2.6.35: 2.6.35.14 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.20 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.53 , linux-next: next-20120111 |
| 06:29.43 | nvz | tensorpudding: yes there were some weird unixes back in the day |
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| 06:30.02 | tensorpudding | well |
| 06:30.15 | tensorpudding | using a bsd unix from the 80's is actually reasonably comfortable |
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| 06:30.29 | tensorpudding | if you've used a modern bsd |
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| 06:31.17 | nvz | I had a couple apollo workstations years ago before I ever used a *nix they probably had HP/UX on em.. but it was crazy |
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| 06:32.17 | nvz | all os concepts were pretty insane in those days |
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| 06:34.00 | ronny | hi |
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| 06:35.04 | ronny | anyone aware if there is a normal way to get the rest of the python testsuite installed, the python package has most of it stripped? |
| 06:36.52 | sivsivrogo1 | !kernel |
| 06:36.53 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, mainline 3: 3.2 , stable 3.1: 3.1.8 , stable 3.0: 3.0.16 , stable 2.6.39: 2.6.39.4 , stable 2.6.35: 2.6.35.14 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.20 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.53 , linux-next: next-20120111 |
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| 06:37.58 | sivsivrogo1 | linux 3.2 is in sid? |
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| 06:39.20 | pharvey | wtf is with procps-ng top ? why does it have arbitrarily different keybindings to the old top? |
| 06:40.01 | pharvey | it seems to expect me to bash on the arrow keys 8 times pick a field to sort on every time I want to change the sorting |
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| 06:41.22 | ac_slater | hey everyone, whats the BEST way to create a CPIO archive of `/` |
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| 06:41.39 | ac_slater | the man page is nifty and all, but I was just curious if anyone had some tips |
| 06:43.20 | technologov | you know... I often find asking myself... why Debian GNU/Linux ? Why not Mozilla/Linux or KDE/Linux ? |
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| 06:43.41 | technologov | KDE/Qt seems much bigger project than GNU nowadays... |
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| 06:44.11 | technologov | or just "Debian Linux" for simplicity... |
| 06:44.19 | sivsivrogo1 | is kernel 3.2 in sid or experimental |
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| 06:44.41 | simonlnu | !pdo |
| 06:44.41 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for Debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/ in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 06:45.10 | nevyn | technologov: don't confuse quantity with importance/criticality |
| 06:45.27 | technologov | how to use judd? |
| 06:45.29 | nevyn | technologov: much as kde has a lot of code. kde would be nowhere without glibc, gcc etc. |
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| 06:46.50 | simonlnu | technologov: also, please take that sort of thing to offtopic, thanks |
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| 06:47.46 | technologov | ,info vim |
| 06:47.47 | judd | Package vim (editors, optional) in squeeze/i386: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. Version: 2:7.2.445+hg~cb94c42c0e1a-1; Size: 779.3k; Installed: 1536k; Homepage: http://www.vim.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/vim |
| 06:47.54 | pharvey | What an odd question... GNU is more like an infrastructure/institution than a product like Mozilla or KDE |
| 06:47.58 | technologov | how to use it... heck I forgot commands |
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| 06:48.44 | simonlnu | versions for pkg versions, info for short desc., take optional arg --release= for release/etc. |
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| 06:49.09 | simonlnu | has the typical supybot interface for the help |
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| 06:50.07 | rf5 | hello im trying to upgrade an old machine from etch to lenny but im getting stuck on an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/800266/ |
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| 06:51.50 | simonlnu | rf5: i can see why you asked. messing with glibc can be a nightmare at times. |
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| 06:52.15 | technologov | ,info linux-image-2.6-amd64 --release unstable | sivsivrogo1 |
| 06:52.16 | judd | Package linux-image-2.6-amd64 (kernel, optional) in sid/i386: Linux for 64-bit PCs (dummy package). Version: 3.1+41; Size: 4.7k; Installed: 36k |
| 06:52.18 | rf5 | ya i noticed that! haha |
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| 06:52.41 | technologov | ok :) at last I got useful answer from this bot ^^ |
| 06:52.42 | simonlnu | most cautious way to deal with it would be to make backups (if you don't have any), then mv NOT rm /lib/tls aside |
| 06:53.39 | simonlnu | technologov: forget the "| foo" syntax, it doesn't work |
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| 06:53.59 | technologov | what does ? |
| 06:54.31 | technologov | sivsiv asked Q, but I forgot how-to use "judd" bot... now I have re-trained myself with it. |
| 06:54.41 | simonlnu | it doesn't take any other arguments |
| 06:54.47 | technologov | very useful bot, BTW, much faster than web |
| 06:54.53 | simonlnu | not that command |
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| 06:55.26 | ronny | 3D/j #debian-python |
| 06:55.31 | ronny | whops |
| 06:55.47 | simonlnu | there's such a thing? neat. |
| 06:55.48 | technologov | For a real Linux experience, now we need to pipe bots together somehow :) |
| 06:55.56 | simonlnu | ronny: didn't they move to oftc too? |
| 06:56.06 | ronny | seems so |
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| 06:56.15 | simonlnu | ok |
| 06:56.35 | sivsivrogo1 | technologov, so why is linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
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| 06:56.55 | sivsivrogo1 | technologov, so why is it labeled linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 06:57.09 | technologov | it is one of the images avail. in Debian; You can use any other flavor, but they are all at the same version. |
| 06:57.55 | simonlnu | well, that depends. that's a meta-package |
| 06:58.37 | technologov | it means "Linux kernel", "2.6" version (for upgrades for 2.6 users), and "amd64" as for 64-bit PC, because AMD developed it |
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| 06:59.09 | simonlnu | in debian it's different because of the itaniums, which are ia64 |
| 06:59.10 | technologov | It's current version is v3.1 |
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| 06:59.25 | simonlnu | !amd64 |
| 06:59.25 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ #debian-amd64 on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
| 06:59.34 | simonlnu | !ia64 |
| 06:59.35 | dpkg | Intel Itanium Architecture (formerly IA-64) is Intel's *other* 64-bit architecture. Itanium processors are primarily found in HP Integrity servers and are supported by Debian's ia64 port (http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/). It is not the same as the AMD64 / Intel 64 / x86-64 chips used in PCs, ask me about <amd64>. |
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| 07:00.52 | technologov | BTW: All other vendors dropped support for Itanic (Red Hat and M$). |
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| 07:01.36 | technologov | As for Debian - it seems just a few people (like 5) can maintain a port. (provided they have several build bots) |
| 07:01.55 | simonlnu | ia64 isn't much in demand any more ;). used to be a lot more in here, but only due to naming confusion, mostly |
| 07:01.59 | technologov | Since the Alpha port dropped below 5 number, it was dropped. |
| 07:02.08 | technologov | ha ha ^^ |
| 07:02.27 | simonlnu | aah that's why. someone asked about alpha earlier this week |
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| 07:03.03 | technologov | I mean 5 core developers, not users. |
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| 07:03.42 | technologov | core developer = Debian Developers, whom can hack Linux kernel, glibc, gcc and other core toolchain packages. |
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| 07:04.14 | nevyn | technologov: the real death knell for ia64 was oracle dropping it |
| 07:04.46 | technologov | the real death knell is because it's expensive and slow. |
| 07:04.54 | nevyn | meh. |
| 07:04.57 | technologov | $4000 CPU. |
| 07:05.12 | nevyn | compared to sparc or power? not really |
| 07:05.19 | nevyn | and it's hardly slow. |
| 07:05.28 | technologov | compared to Core i7, it loses on all benchmarks. Really. |
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| 07:05.43 | technologov | Core i7 = $300 CPU. |
| 07:06.14 | nevyn | benchmarks are kinda like statistics |
| 07:06.31 | simonlnu | !statistics |
| 07:06.31 | dpkg | i guess statistics is a way of measuring something with numbers. http://feayn.org/~lewis/statistics.jpg |
| 07:06.32 | nevyn | you can prove anything with them. lest we forget mindcraft |
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| 07:06.41 | nvz | nevyn: its not fast unless it goes plaid.. don't you know anything? |
| 07:06.45 | simonlnu | bah |
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| 07:07.00 | simonlnu | there are lies, damned lies, and statistics |
| 07:07.06 | technologov | ye ye :) |
| 07:07.13 | nevyn | and in it there are lies damn lies and benchmarks. |
| 07:07.24 | simonlnu | hehe ;) |
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| 07:07.45 | technologov | usually if the thing is good, it gets tons of positive benchmarks... |
| 07:08.00 | technologov | (unless it is highly specialized stuff...) |
| 07:08.36 | nevyn | so sparc is a SLOW ASS CPU.. really honest to god it's like.. omg 1+2 let me think about that for a few hundred usecs |
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| 07:08.43 | technologov | For example it is hard to get benchmarks for $1 million dollar routers (Cisco 12000 and Juniper T640). I didn't found any. |
| 07:08.43 | nevyn | 3 |
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| 07:09.06 | nvz | dpkg gone plaid is <reply>Its not fast unless it goes plaid.. or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6DXoNKITc |
| 07:09.06 | dpkg | okay, nvz |
| 07:09.20 | simonlnu | nvz: :D |
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| 07:09.58 | nevyn | but people still buy them because they have more confidence.. (whether deserved or not) than in other solutions (or maybe just because oracle's sales guys have unrestricted amex's) |
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| 07:14.11 | technologov_ | ...although I can't imagine myself installing Debian on a smart-phone... I doubt if I can place calls. |
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| 07:14.21 | technologov_ | can I ? |
| 07:14.59 | dwfreed | if you had access the phone's firmware, probably |
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| 07:15.12 | nevyn | technologov_: there are dialers in main |
| 07:15.35 | simonlnu | some phones can take being linux-ified yes |
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| 07:17.33 | Trewas | nokia's maemo phones (n900 and n9) are debian-based, too bad they killed it |
| 07:17.45 | tonytraductor | openssl keeps assigning my certificate to the wrong fqdn. my server is vulcan.tonybaldwin.org, but it keeps write the cert for vulcan.linode.com. I think this is why my smtp server will not work. (dovecot imap is fine, can read mail, but can't send or receive from outside). |
| 07:18.00 | tonytraductor | I told postfix the correct fqdn |
| 07:18.08 | tonytraductor | and it's in main.cf |
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| 07:21.51 | tonytraductor | then again, when I telnet localhost 25 > ehlo localhost, I do not see 250 - STARTTL |
| 07:21.54 | tonytraductor | which can't be good. |
| 07:23.07 | xwalk | Can someone point out the syntax error in the command 'ls /foo/bar/!{file}'? "File" is something that should be omitted. |
| 07:23.10 | nevyn | there's tizen which just released source |
| 07:23.46 | nevyn | which is supposed to be targeting phones |
| 07:24.31 | technologov | " ! " thing is not allowed on shell, you should use "grep" |
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| 07:24.52 | Trewas | nevyn: yeah, but who knows if anything will come out of it or will it just fizzle out like meego without a single released product |
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| 07:25.29 | technologov | ls /foo/bar | grep -v [unwelcome file] |
| 07:25.53 | technologov | xwalk, this is inverse grep, that excludes stuff |
| 07:25.59 | nevyn | Trewas: there's that. |
| 07:26.12 | xwalk | technologov, Caught that on the man page as soon as your message came across. Thank you. |
| 07:26.29 | nevyn | Trewas: and the guys in -devel were... unimpressed by the package naming/numbering conventions among other things |
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| 07:27.55 | cdown | xwalk: don't use grep. assuming you're using bash |
| 07:28.11 | cdown | shopt -s extglob ; ls !(file) |
| 07:28.34 | sivsivrogo1 | linux-image-3.2 final is not in repo, it is what i was looking for |
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| 07:30.56 | nevyn | what distro of debian are you using? |
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| 07:31.47 | xwalk | cdown, I am using bash. I remember being able to use the ! character, I just don't know the exact syntax and it's hard to figure out for me. |
| 07:31.59 | sivsivrogo1 | wheezy |
| 07:32.38 | cdown | xwalk: you have to use extglob for it to work. |
| 07:32.43 | cdown | *set |
| 07:32.46 | cornelinux | Hi, I'd like to change the version in a debian/changelog file to 1:<oldversion> automatically using "dch". Any idea on this? |
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| 07:33.01 | cdown | !(foo|bar|baz) lists everything except for foo, bar, baz, for example. |
| 07:33.25 | cdown | well, not everything. |
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| 07:33.46 | cdown | but everything that would be expanded by a regular pan-glob. |
| 07:33.46 | xwalk | cdown, Yeah. I got that down. Does the omitted file have to be in parenthesis? |
| 07:33.51 | cdown | yes. |
| 07:34.07 | cdown | this is shell syntax, performed by bash, not by ls. |
| 07:35.02 | xwalk | cdown, Okay, so the full command would be 'ls /foo/bar/!(file)' then? |
| 07:35.08 | cdown | no... |
| 07:35.14 | cdown | What are you trying to do? |
| 07:35.18 | cdown | *exactly* |
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| 07:35.58 | xwalk | It's an exercise in the bash scripting for beginners book on tldp.org. I have to list the service that are started in runlevel 3. |
| 07:36.07 | cdown | Do *not* use TLDP *ever*. |
| 07:36.16 | cdown | It is full of bugs, the guy who wrote the bash scripting guys there is a moron. |
| 07:36.23 | cdown | It will teach you to write bugs, not scripts. |
| 07:36.33 | xwalk | cdown, Oh, wow... |
| 07:36.34 | cdown | Use http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide instead. |
| 07:36.55 | xwalk | cdown, Okay. |
| 07:37.04 | cdown | But I don't know what you're trying to do with that command, still. |
| 07:37.20 | sivsivrogo1 | cdown, very well done |
| 07:37.28 | cdown | Oh, I see. |
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| 07:37.40 | cdown | I thought you had mistaken /foo/bar/ not as a path, but as some kind of matching operator. |
| 07:37.51 | cdown | In which case: yes, that is appropriate. |
| 07:38.08 | xwalk | cdown, There's a README file in that directory I don't want listed. That's why I was using the ! character. |
| 07:38.15 | cdown | ls !(README) |
| 07:38.21 | cdown | But if you want to do something useful with this, don't parse ls. |
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| 07:38.40 | cdown | If you only want it for human reading, and nothing else, ls is fine. |
| 07:38.49 | cdown | Otherwise, use a for construct with a glob, not ls. |
| 07:38.59 | cdown | But if you truly want every file, you will need dotglob as well. |
| 07:39.01 | cdown | shopt -s dotglob |
| 07:39.14 | cdown | Although bear in mind that this truly is "files", since directories are also files in Unix. |
| 07:39.26 | cdown | If you want regular files, do something like |
| 07:39.32 | xwalk | cdown, That's pretty much all the exercise was calling for. I figured it was just me when I thought it felt like I was hitting my head against a wall reading the tldp.org stuff. |
| 07:39.48 | cdown | for file in !(README); do [[ -f $file ]] || continue; ... |
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| 07:40.03 | cdown | xwalk: Nope, it's pretty horrible. |
| 07:40.12 | cdown | You can also join #bash if you fancy, most people in there know what they're talking about. |
| 07:40.59 | xwalk | cdown, Okay. I was actually looking for a place like that. I feel like a lot of questions here are too generally Linux and not really specific to Debian. |
| 07:41.12 | xwalk | cdown, Thanks for setting me straight. |
| 07:41.25 | cdown | no problem. |
| 07:42.02 | xwalk | My questions is what I meant. |
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| 07:44.21 | dokma | just had power outag |
| 07:44.29 | dokma | on next boot filesystem is corrupt |
| 07:44.50 | xwalk | This guide has a PDF format. Excellent. |
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| 07:45.11 | dokma | fails at /scripts/local-premount |
| 07:45.26 | dokma | ETX3-fs error |
| 07:45.43 | dokma | is there any way to force fsck from grub? |
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| 07:47.41 | dokma | I guess not since fsck is on the affected drive :) |
| 07:47.53 | dokma | cool, so I gotta run a rescue CD |
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| 08:09.00 | rly | I am running into a hanging futex problem in iceweasel and want to upgrade is, but I get the following: http://paste.debian.net/151818/ |
| 08:09.25 | rly | (I am using the mozilla repositories.) |
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| 08:19.52 | rf5 | hi. Im having a problem with the headers that dont let me compile. My apt cant find glibc-headers. |
| 08:20.41 | Morpheme | i added my account to the group wheel.. why every file in my home now are in wheel group? °_° |
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| 08:22.00 | somiaj | Morpheme: how did you add yourself to that group? |
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| 08:22.13 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 08:22.26 | Morpheme | somiaj, with root: usermod -G wheel myname |
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| 08:23.14 | rly | How great, Firefox 9 has the same problem. |
| 08:23.17 | Morpheme | every file now: Gid: ( 999/ wheel) |
| 08:23.20 | somiaj | Morpheme: check /etc/group -- did it change the wheel gid, or did it remove your user from suing his own group as default? |
| 08:23.28 | gypsymauro | I've installed some squeeze guests on vmware esx 4.1, I discovered that debian guest have bad performances respect to for example centos or opensuse, any hint on that? after some works on disk they are so slow |
| 08:23.31 | rly | Why do all those incompetent fools even touch a computer? |
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| 08:24.18 | Morpheme | somiaj, how can i know if is set to use your group as default?? |
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| 08:24.42 | Morpheme | my user line: myname:x:1000:myname |
| 08:24.46 | somiaj | Morpheme: I would just check the /etc/group file, that is where all the info (in standard setups) will be located |
| 08:24.49 | Morpheme | wheel line: wheel:x:999: |
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| 08:25.37 | Morpheme | i think he didn't change gid |
| 08:25.37 | somiaj | Morpheme: is this wheel group something ou added, I also find it strange that the set uid/gid for your user is 999, this is not standard in debian afiak |
| 08:25.59 | somiaj | the uid/gid on the files is 999/999 |
| 08:26.12 | Morpheme | it's 1000/999 |
| 08:26.16 | somiaj | they need to be 1000/1000 for your user, as why you have anything set to 999 is not a debian standard. |
| 08:26.17 | Morpheme | Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 1000/behemoth) Gid: ( 999/ wheel) |
| 08:26.40 | somiaj | ahh sorry I thought you ment they were 999/wheel |
| 08:26.54 | somiaj | well you can just change the numbers use chmod/own to fix this |
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| 08:27.23 | somiaj | first off where did this wheel group come from and why do you want to add your user to it, this again is not a debian standard (at least on the systems I've installed) |
| 08:28.26 | Morpheme | i added that group for using pam to limit 'su' command |
| 08:28.31 | Morpheme | now only ppl in wheel can use 'su' |
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| 08:30.50 | Morpheme | wowowwowow |
| 08:31.01 | Morpheme | i solved using: usermod -g myname myname |
| 08:31.23 | somiaj | yea, that was my guess usermod changed the file permisions since you changed your default group |
| 08:31.25 | Morpheme | as you said, primary group of my user was changed! |
| 08:31.33 | Morpheme | yes, thanks :) |
| 08:32.05 | Morpheme | but this is not writed in /etc/group |
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| 08:32.32 | Morpheme | what about: usermod -g nogroup mynamE? |
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| 08:34.07 | Morpheme | lol, i can't use again 'su' |
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| 08:34.24 | Morpheme | i'm not in whell anymore |
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| 08:34.30 | Morpheme | how can i add it as secondary group? |
| 08:35.10 | dwfreed | gpasswd -a morpheme wheel |
| 08:35.19 | dwfreed | or whatever your username is |
| 08:35.38 | g[r]eek | Hi fellas. I have a networking issue. Yesterday everything was working fine. Today, I boot up my laptop, and I can't ping my router (other laptops are connecting to it just fine). Also, none of my wireless connections are showing up on my list of available connections (there are meant to be 4). If I type 'ifconfig' I get all the standard output for eth0 and wlan0, and they're both configured correctly in /etc/networking/interfaces. Any idea what gives? |
| 08:35.39 | somiaj | Morpheme: I personally use adduser username groupname to add a user to another group |
| 08:35.56 | somiaj | Morpheme: you probabaly need the whole list, usermod -g group1,group2,group3 username |
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| 08:37.41 | Morpheme | somiaj, right |
| 08:37.50 | dokma | I just ran fsck on a corrupt filesystem and it's mentioning errors in important files like the kernel |
| 08:38.06 | dokma | is there a way to tell apt to redownload every package and unpack it? |
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| 08:39.00 | bambanx | hi |
| 08:39.28 | dokma | abrotman: any way to tell apt to redownload every installed package and unpack it? |
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| 08:44.06 | themill | dokma: debsums would be a better tool for you; /msg dpkg debsums |
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| 08:46.49 | CruX| | hello, which editor can open 5 gb text file with small memory footprint ? |
| 08:47.02 | CruX| | gvim not :( |
| 08:47.07 | ChrisH | g[r]eek: did you try a reboot, just in case the WLAN HW has some hick-up? I had similar things with my Dell Laptop. |
| 08:47.27 | ChrisH | Crux: more will do, if you just want to see the file |
| 08:47.56 | g[r]eek | ChrisH, yeah, but I'll try it again now that I've restored back to default settings in the interfaces file |
| 08:47.58 | CruX| | ChrisH: yes viewing is enough |
| 08:48.04 | CruX| | with searching |
| 08:48.15 | CruX| | and QT apps are prefered |
| 08:48.29 | ChrisH | searching: grep with -A and/or -B option? |
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| 08:48.53 | CruX| | that is not comfortable |
| 08:49.32 | ChrisH | that depends on your definition of comfortable... :) For me using a QT App is not comfortable |
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| 08:54.46 | simonlnu | 'hiccup' fyi |
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| 08:59.43 | ChrisH | simonlnu: thanks... |
| 08:59.54 | simonlnu | you're welcome |
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| 09:01.15 | rly | Is there any way in which I can have iceweasel version 8 _working_? |
| 09:01.30 | rly | I even tried version 12, but it seems that they still have the same bug. |
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| 09:01.45 | rly | I even mv'ed my profile out of the way. |
| 09:01.47 | somiaj | rly: what version of debian? |
| 09:01.51 | rly | somiaj: Squeeze. |
| 09:02.09 | rly | somiaj: there is a mozilla repo, which I used, but it simply doesn't work. |
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| 09:02.29 | rly | somiaj: it just hangs on a futex or on some read call. |
| 09:02.34 | somiaj | rly: You can download the .tar binary for firefox from their site and just run that form your homedir. |
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| 09:02.46 | rly | somiaj: I also did that. |
| 09:02.54 | rly | somiaj: and I get the same result. |
| 09:03.23 | rly | somiaj: in the case of Firefox it is a window showing Firefox Update, but nothing actually is put into the window. |
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| 09:03.44 | rly | somiaj: it just hangs on read(3, |
| 09:04.00 | simonlnu | what's it trying to read? |
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| 09:05.41 | rly | simonlnu: I can't really see that. |
| 09:05.54 | sephii | I have an NFS share that's mounted on my Debian machine. But since it's just an external disk sometimes I power it off. When it happens, the system hangs (more or less, I can still move the mouse and do some operations) and I can't event power it off. I'm forced to use magic keys to reboot my computer. Any idea on how to avoid this? |
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| 09:10.02 | michelem | hi folks |
| 09:10.07 | rly | simonlnu: the last access is a True Type Font file. |
| 09:10.16 | rly | simonlnu: but there is nothing wrong with that file. |
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| 09:10.47 | michelem | is there a way to replace /usr/bin/sendmail system-wise on debian, in a way similar to freebsd' /etc/mail/mailer.conf |
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| 09:11.46 | lancelot_of | hi there, on boot time i get in kernel messages :" modprobe: module unix not found in modules.dep" it's a quite annoying message, what does it mean?What should i do? |
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| 09:14.10 | themill | michelem: what do you mean by "replace"? |
| 09:14.30 | themill | michelem: (by default, you have exim installed not sendmail, if that's what you are asking) |
| 09:14.56 | rly | It seems NFS also crashes: http://paste.debian.net/151828/ |
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| 09:15.35 | rly | Debian 'Stable' could better be named Debian 'Doesn't Change A Lot'. |
| 09:16.14 | Phil-Work | lol |
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| 09:22.29 | ChrisH | sephii: powering off Disks which are NFS mounted is not a good idea. It will most times forces a reboot or reset. |
| 09:22.39 | sylar | is there a way to make browser access the certificate authority via https instead of http? |
| 09:23.28 | epsilon | wat? |
| 09:23.32 | rly | ChrisH: it is entirely possible to start an NFS transfer, have the server go down, start the server and continue the same transfer without even noticcing. |
| 09:23.38 | rly | ChrisH: noticing* |
| 09:24.09 | ChrisH | You can reduce the impact by mounting the Filesystem to a subdirectory and not directly to / Using the soft option might also be an option to get the client responive again. |
| 09:24.45 | rly | ChrisH: then again, I don't know which subset of NFS options will make that particular behaviour not work. |
| 09:25.07 | ChrisH | rly: Thats the theory. Here were are not talking about rebooting the NFS Server but shutting disks down |
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| 09:25.32 | rly | ChrisH: by 'rebooting' I meant actually rebooting the machine. |
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| 09:25.45 | rly | ChrisH: and that's practice, because I did exactly that. |
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| 09:26.03 | rly | ChrisH: I must say it somewhat surprised me that it 'just worked'. |
| 09:26.13 | technikfreak | hello i ahve a ppd file and also i see my langauge there with toher but it shows just english? |
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| 09:26.33 | technikfreak | *LanguageVersion: English is that the switch where i could change the language? |
| 09:26.38 | rly | ChrisH: running NFS does feel a bit like a DoS attack on my machine, though. |
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| 09:27.21 | ChrisH | Linux NFS Server Implementation is (or at least was) does change the filehandles on serverside upon reboot until you export with fsid= option... So Theory is different from what you see in real file. |
| 09:27.29 | boudiccas | technikfreak; what program are you running to read the ppd file? |
| 09:27.56 | technikfreak | cups |
| 09:28.08 | technikfreak | or you mean editor? |
| 09:28.08 | technikfreak | vi |
| 09:28.19 | lancelot_of | hi there, on boot time i get in kernel messages :" modprobe: module unix not found in modules.dep" it's a quite annoying message, what does it mean?What should i do? |
| 09:28.49 | boudiccas | technikfreak; most ppd files are read in openoffice or libreoffice |
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| 09:29.07 | boudiccas | technikfreak; and thats where you change the language |
| 09:29.11 | technikfreak | ppd printer file |
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| 09:29.18 | somiaj | lancelot_of: what is trying to load the module by the name of 'unix', check /etc/modules or other things that could be trying to load that module. |
| 09:29.39 | somiaj | lancelot_of: something is trying to load a module that doens't exist and that is what the message is telling you. |
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| 09:30.32 | lancelot_of | somiaj, how to fix? |
| 09:31.20 | somiaj | figure out what is loading the module. I gave you one file to check, but there are various things that could be doing it. Have you installed any unoffical packages that could be doing this? |
| 09:31.59 | boudiccas | technikfreak; powerpoint display |
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| 09:32.58 | technikfreak | not powerpoint |
| 09:33.04 | technikfreak | ppd the printing driver |
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| 09:36.19 | sephii | ChrisH: why is that? I thought NFS was loosely coupled by design? |
| 09:37.26 | sephii | ChrisH: my NFS share is already mounted in a /mnt subdirectory |
| 09:37.44 | ChrisH | sephii: Sun did it that way. I do not know why Linux is different. I learned it the hard way. |
| 09:39.55 | sephii | ChrisH: do you know of any alternative to NFS? Besides that big issue it's perfect and I don't want to use smb |
| 09:41.50 | gnarface | sephii: have you tried out sshfs? |
| 09:42.07 | nevyn | hard |
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| 09:42.43 | sephii | gnarface: actually it's a NAS so I don't have any control on the software installed on it |
| 09:42.51 | gnarface | if throughput is important though i don't know of any good alternatives to NFS anyway |
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| 09:43.17 | gnarface | maybe mount options ? |
| 09:43.28 | nevyn | rly: so with hard as a nfs option you can reboot the server and it'll continue when it comes back |
| 09:43.58 | nevyn | with soft the operation will fail and timeout |
| 09:44.07 | sephii | I'd love to have a timeout |
| 09:44.25 | nevyn | soft is now the default. |
| 09:44.39 | sephii | But it seems to be trying over and over. I tried to shutdown my computer, I waited for 15 minutes without success |
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| 09:47.26 | sephii | damn I just noticed the "retry" option |
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| 09:57.15 | ChrisH | sephii: I use NFS in the office and at home mainly. Only one of my Laptops connects using SMB as I need to switch Useridenty. (No in NFS V4 this key feature does not work as announced). So if you know 1. use NFS V3 and 2. be carefull with shuting down Disks and Servers its fine |
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| 09:58.44 | gnarface | ChrisH: is that a mac laptop out of curiosity? |
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| 10:02.12 | ChrisH | gnarface: no Debain unstable, but a different Username as I use it as a real mobile device. No NFS no NIS at home |
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| 10:08.37 | cdown | has anyone here had problems unfreezing a PATA drive in the past? i can't unfreeze this drive, despite restarting multiple times (and never using sleep state) |
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| 10:28.59 | gypsymauro | there is a way to get disc performances? |
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| 10:33.30 | jelly | gypsymauro: look at: iostat, atop (or iotop) |
| 10:33.42 | jelly | iostat is in vmstat package |
| 10:33.59 | jelly | gypsymauro: sorry, sysstat package |
| 10:35.12 | colo-work | there's also blktrace for you to look into. |
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| 10:44.32 | xwalk | cdown, Looking at the intro to this manual I can already see that it's much clearer than the ambiguous content of the tldp stuff. |
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| 10:45.24 | cdown | xwalk: Well, TLDP is not only out of date, but the guy who wrote it seems to have only had a basic comprehension of bash stuff. |
| 10:45.33 | cdown | The worst bit is that a lot of the stuff *appears* to be okay at first. |
| 10:45.47 | cdown | And then a few months down the line, your code breaks horrifically, and you don't understand why. |
| 10:46.01 | cdown | Usually because of such funny reasons as "there was a space somewhere" |
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| 10:49.14 | xwalk | cdown, The problem I found with the exercises was that it was difficult to expand upon them and use them in a practical sense, at least what I read in the intro to linux document. |
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| 11:05.32 | bcc | need to buy a new network card for our servers.. what is the best supported/rated network card to get? PCI-E |
| 11:05.51 | Sc0rian | need to buy a new network card for our servers.. what is the best supported/rated network card to get? PCI-E |
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| 11:07.33 | crane | sry... not amavis... amavis-new ;) |
| 11:07.34 | Sc0rian | rj45 1000 base |
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| 11:12.13 | ksx4system | why apt-get wants me to install some weird packages (firmware-realtek-blahblah and libtinfo5) while installing new kernel (custom 3.2.0)? |
| 11:12.16 | ksx4system | how to fix it? |
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| 11:12.51 | ksx4system | of course I added this useless firmware package but second one isn't even available in squeeze repos |
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| 11:12.56 | ksx4system | any ideas? |
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| 11:17.12 | Trewas | ksx4system: install a custom kernel meant for squeeze or compile your own |
| 11:17.42 | ksx4system | Trewas: compiled by hand, based on backports squeeze kernel config. |
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| 11:18.36 | ksx4system | Trewas: just a little patch (bfs scheduler) and removed support for things I will never use (for example wimax support and firewire support) |
| 11:18.45 | ksx4system | Trewas: any ideas how to fix it? |
| 11:19.51 | koskoz | hi, when I check the mail.info log, I see plenty of this: http://pastebin.com/nTi239Rk It seems that my server is trying to send an email to test@test.com but I don't know where it comes from |
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| 11:21.13 | Trewas | ksx4system: well the package depends on the things you mentioned (libtinfo5 etc), the fix is to make it not depend on them :) |
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| 11:21.56 | ksx4system | Trewas: this package doesn't depend on anything. Debian itself is broken, not my package! |
| 11:22.10 | Trewas | ksx4system: of course |
| 11:22.17 | ksx4system | Trewas: so, how can I force apt to ignore these dependencies forever? |
| 11:23.04 | Trewas | it might be easier to install the custom kernel by hand than to break the packaging system, but this discussion is over for me... |
| 11:24.41 | ksx4system | Trewas: well, it's weird thing that now kernel depends on something... I compiled many different versions (from 2.6.35 to 3.1-rc*) without any problems and any dependencies |
| 11:24.53 | ksx4system | Trewas: without single change of procedure of course |
| 11:25.28 | ksx4system | Trewas: I always uncheck the same things, I always compile it the same way using one simple make-kpkg command |
| 11:25.38 | vtts | if you are building a custom kernel, then you can modify the package rules and that includes dependencies |
| 11:25.40 | ksx4system | Trewas: that's why I think that's not my package's fault. |
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| 11:26.12 | ksx4system | vtts: cool but I didn't touch them :( by default dependencies were pointing to nothing and it was perfect. |
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| 11:27.17 | ksx4system | vtts: I can of course recompile it but it'll take around 4 hours and I'm sure that it'll probably result with broken package again... |
| 11:27.18 | vtts | are you building from a debian source package? or from kernel.org source? |
| 11:27.47 | ksx4system | vtts: kernel.org source (since Debian repositories contain only ancient kernels) |
| 11:27.50 | ksx4system | latest 3.2.0 |
| 11:28.05 | ksx4system | + bfs patch made by Con Kolivas |
| 11:28.14 | vtts | then you can skip the package building all together |
| 11:28.26 | ksx4system | ? |
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| 11:28.59 | ksx4system | vtts: well, package is nice thing... allows me to simplify install of kernel on few boxes |
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| 11:29.51 | vtts | true it is, but if you don't want to mess with package rules, skip it :) |
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| 11:31.34 | ksx4system | vtts: I skipped headers package, it was causing problems. |
| 11:31.38 | jayvee | when I was installing wheezy, I was asked whether I wanted the initramfs to include all drivers, or just a minimal set. I chose the minimal set, and my system won't boot (complains about lacking various modules while the initramfs tries to detect disks). from a chroot, how can I change this setting? I can't find where the d-i question stores the value. |
| 11:32.04 | jayvee | I am guessing something in /etc/initramfs, but things look in order to me |
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| 11:35.21 | vtts | jayvee, it doesn't just store the value in the config, it also creates the initramfs image according to the config |
| 11:36.30 | vtts | on a working system you can edit /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and use update-initramfs command |
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| 11:44.40 | NoOova | how to convert multioine echo to one string? |
| 11:44.55 | NoOova | like: ls / | tr "\n" " " |
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| 11:45.00 | NoOova | but without space |
| 11:45.39 | colo-work | use `tr -d`? |
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| 11:53.24 | koskoz | hi, when I check the mail.info log, I see plenty of this: http://pastebin.com/nTi239Rk It seems that my server is trying to send an email to test@test.com but I don't know where it comes from |
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| 11:56.45 | petemc | koskoz: look earlier in the log you should see where it came from |
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| 12:04.46 | jelly | NoOova: ls / |tr -d '\n' works for me |
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| 12:12.37 | amt0101 | Hello, I have an issue regarding the lx terminal. When I change the color of the foreground it remains active only until terminal is closed. If I reopen the terminal again, it's back to the old foreground color. Why? |
| 12:13.10 | amt0101 | I posted my question on #lxde but no activity there. |
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| 12:20.08 | ne0 | hey, I want to install VirtualBox on a new Debian system like it is described here: http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Squeeze |
| 12:20.31 | ne0 | but I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/wvX5pHAd |
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| 12:22.27 | davidgul | hi guys |
| 12:22.46 | davidgul | how can i check my cpu temp ? |
| 12:22.47 | davidgul | in debian |
| 12:23.29 | ksuhku | davidgul, install package lm-sensors |
| 12:23.36 | ksuhku | and then run sensors |
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| 12:24.33 | ksuhku | davidgul, there is also a panel applet |
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| 12:24.40 | ksuhku | at least in gnome |
| 12:24.47 | ne0 | solved |
| 12:25.29 | ksuhku | ne0, is the wiki clear on the subject? |
| 12:25.36 | davidgul | ksuhku: it tell me this : No sensors found! when i run sensors |
| 12:25.59 | ksk | davidgul: it tells you what you can do now |
| 12:26.15 | ksuhku | davidgul, then try sensors-detect |
| 12:26.28 | boudiccas | davidgul; in that case there are n sensors you can use |
| 12:26.38 | ksuhku | perhaps there are sensors |
| 12:26.42 | ne0 | ksuhku: i made a update 'aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade' |
| 12:26.50 | ne0 | and now it is working |
| 12:26.51 | ksuhku | ah, ok |
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| 12:28.07 | davidgul | how it can be posibol that dont have sensors if i can check the cpu temp in bios ??? |
| 12:28.12 | ne0 | I do not have so much experience with linux |
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| 12:28.34 | ksuhku | ne0, just keep doing things and you will! |
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| 12:28.56 | ksuhku | davidgul, did you run sensors-detect? |
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| 12:29.05 | ne0 | ksuhku: :) thx |
| 12:29.10 | ksuhku | :) |
| 12:29.29 | davidgul | yes it tell me this bash: sensors-detect: command not found |
| 12:29.54 | ksuhku | davidgul, did you install lm-sensors? |
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| 12:30.26 | ksuhku | davidgul, you need super user to run sensors-detect |
| 12:30.30 | davidgul | it alredy been install on my system |
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| 12:34.11 | davidgul | when i run sensors-detect it tell me that i need to install some moduls |
| 12:34.28 | davidgul | but it dosent tell me which moduls |
| 12:36.00 | ksuhku | davidgul, can you drop the output to http://paste.debian.net/ and paste the link here? |
| 12:37.50 | davidgul | ksuhku: http://paste.debian.net/151847/ |
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| 12:40.31 | streuner | davidgul: "Either your system has no sensors, or they are not supported, or they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not supported. If you find out what chips are on your board, check http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices for driver status." |
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| 12:43.16 | davidgul | ksuhku: i found my chip its i3 and i need this driver coretemp so where i can get it ?? |
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| 12:45.39 | ksuhku | davidgul, check the wiki mentioned, I have no idea whether it will work |
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| 12:47.37 | amt0101 | Can anyone tell me how do I start i8kutils after installing it from Software center? |
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| 12:48.31 | streuner | ju, info mbmon |
| 12:48.38 | streuner | judd, info mbmon |
| 12:48.39 | judd | Package mbmon (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client). Version: 2.05-6; Size: 68.2k; Installed: 148k |
| 12:49.02 | streuner | ksuhku: try mbmon, maybe its an alternative... |
| 12:49.09 | woshty | how do i get iceweasel to display a warning dialog after pressing ctrl+1. it is kind of pointless to warn about closing a window with multiple tabs if pressing ctrl+q just closes the whole app. |
| 12:49.14 | ksuhku | wont guy streuner |
| 12:49.18 | ksuhku | *wrong |
| 12:49.18 | ne0 | ok, I install virtualbox, but I cann't start it because it failed to open the X11 display. Should I install Xorg? |
| 12:49.20 | woshty | ctrl+q |
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| 12:50.01 | OsteHovel | Whats the "debian" name of thunderbird like firefox is iceweasel? |
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| 12:50.10 | woshty | icedove |
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| 12:50.23 | MrDeso | I've heard btrfs is better than ext3/4 but specifically in dealing like lots of small files (like a server would). Is btrfs ready for servers? is debian's implementation of it the same as opensuse who're using it as their default already? |
| 12:50.35 | babilen | OsteHovel: Also see http://mozilla.debian.net for newer packages |
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| 12:53.05 | MrDeso | oh if none has anything on btrfs, why does debian use ext3 by default? ext4 is faster? |
| 12:53.07 | sKeiths | anyone use a gmail notifier? official only seems to be windows and mac. |
| 12:53.19 | babilen | davidgul: coretemp is a kernel module and it might not have been loaded by default. Please run "modprobe coretemp" and try again -- If that solved your issue you could add it to /etc/modules |
| 12:54.15 | amt0101 | My previous message got lost in the wind so I will post it again. I have a dell inspiron and after migrating to squeeze from Debian, the laptop fan doesn't stop working like it used to in Debian. Can someone help me out? |
| 12:54.19 | OsteHovel | Thank you woshty & babilen. |
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| 12:55.09 | davidgul | babilen: this is the error that i get : FATAL: Error inserting coretemp (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/hwmon/coretemp.ko): No such device |
| 12:55.09 | OsteHovel | amt0101: its on full all the time? |
| 12:55.29 | amt0101 | OsteHovel, Yeah, even in Idle...for 4 hours...full all the time. |
| 12:55.37 | sidewalk | !hwraid |
| 12:55.43 | sidewalk | argh! |
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| 12:56.13 | amt0101 | OsteHovel, Someone from the list suggeste i8kutils but I am just a beginner, don't know how to start it or configure it exactly. Tried google but not helping. |
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| 12:56.21 | OsteHovel | Thats like being in a server room |
| 12:56.31 | amt0101 | :))You have no idea... |
| 12:56.43 | amt0101 | It's like I have a farm of ibm blades in my room=)) |
| 12:56.46 | babilen | MrDeso: The default changed in recent versions of the debian-installer |
| 12:56.58 | babilen | MrDeso: *changed to ext4 :) |
| 12:57.01 | sidewalk | im trying to install debian on a hwraid, but the raid drive only gets mounted as read only during installation, anyone have any ideas what i should do to get the raid working properly? im trying to install using netinst iso amd64 |
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| 12:57.18 | MrDeso | babilen: How do you get a recent version? will the 6.0.3 iso have it? |
| 12:57.25 | ksuhku | amt0101, dpkg -L i8kutils and see what binaries if any |
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| 12:57.38 | OsteHovel | amt0101: i tought fan control was something normaly the kernel tok care of but im not sure |
| 12:57.48 | babilen | davidgul: That looks as if that module is, in fact, not appropriate for your hardware. Why do you think that it is? |
| 12:58.38 | amt0101 | ksuhku, Here is the output:http://pastebin.com/ngdyCJFj |
| 12:59.02 | aguitel | when wheeze become stable ? |
| 12:59.04 | davidgul | babilen: i chacked her :http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices i have i3 spu |
| 12:59.08 | davidgul | cpu * |
| 12:59.24 | babilen | MrDeso: No, wheezy's installer will have it, but there is no stable release of debian-installer available right now. You can get development snapshots (that will very likely not work) on http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- It is pretty easy to choose whatever filesystem you want in sidewalk Squeeze's installer though. |
| 12:59.41 | babilen | !tell aguitel -about wwwr |
| 12:59.46 | jelly | davidgul: pastebin the contents of your /proc/cpuinfo, please |
| 12:59.51 | ksuhku | amt0101, man i8kfan |
| 12:59.58 | MrDeso | !tell mrdeso -about wwwr |
| 12:59.59 | MrDeso | :3 |
| 13:00.06 | amt0101 | ksuhku, I tried that:) |
| 13:00.08 | babilen | aguitel: We plan to freeze it in about 6 months -- No idea how long it takes us to fix all RC bugs, but it will be faster if you help. |
| 13:00.21 | amt0101 | ksuhku, Oups, sorry, that works:D |
| 13:00.28 | babilen | MrDeso: You can also "/msg dpkg wwwr" ;) |
| 13:00.31 | ksuhku | lol |
| 13:00.39 | amt0101 | ksuhku, I tried only man i8kutils. |
| 13:00.48 | ksuhku | yea |
| 13:00.52 | babilen | davidgul: Ok, lets see :) |
| 13:00.57 | ksuhku | you can see the man page in the listing |
| 13:01.01 | jelly | davidgul: coretemp module on 2.6.38-3.1 kernels works fine on my cpu: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz |
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| 13:01.35 | MrDeso | What would be the best filesystem for a resource-constrained system that'll likely run a few servers, fast i/o might be necessary. ext3, ext4, btrfs |
| 13:01.46 | ksuhku | actually looks like all those tools have man pages amt0101 |
| 13:01.47 | babilen | davidgul: You are using sandybridge? I am quite sure that you'll need a newer kernel than the .32 in stable right now. Try a backported .39 (/msg dpkg bdo kernel) |
| 13:02.03 | CruX| | MrDeso: ext4 |
| 13:02.32 | amt0101 | ksuhku, Is there a chance to fry my machine?:D |
| 13:02.58 | davidgul | what is sandybridge ?? |
| 13:03.02 | ksuhku | amt0101, I have no idea, probably yes but it would likely take awhile |
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| 13:03.31 | ksuhku | amt0101, do you see temperatures? |
| 13:03.43 | ne0 | If I want to start #VirtualBox, I get the message, that it failed to open the X11 display |
| 13:03.45 | babilen | davidgul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge (your hardware) -- Please try the backported .39 kernel - it should work better with your hardware. |
| 13:03.49 | OsteHovel | davidgul: its a sandy bridge, no its a motherboard platform? from intel |
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| 13:04.15 | OsteHovel | Dosent the pc auto-cut at X cpu temp? |
| 13:04.17 | ksuhku | certainly looks like intel something |
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| 13:04.38 | amt0101 | ksuhku, If I run i8kctl temp i get : can't open /proc/i8k: No such file or directory |
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| 13:06.01 | davidgul | so what i need to do to check my spu fan |
| 13:06.02 | davidgul | ?? |
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| 13:06.11 | MrDeso | is virtual box an effective virtualization platform for a home server? I've heard of things like KVM but I don't know enough about them |
| 13:06.18 | davidgul | beacuse nothing work for me |
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| 13:07.08 | ksuhku | amt0101, the man pages know more than i do on the subject |
| 13:07.15 | OsteHovel | Devidgul: wine & speedfan for windows :P (this is a joke) |
| 13:07.55 | amt0101 | ksuhku, Isn't there a simpler solution like installing something then forgetting about it? |
| 13:08.15 | amt0101 | ksuhku, I am reading the man pages atm but not helping me either... |
| 13:08.21 | babilen | MrDeso: I use KVM and am happy with it. It's pretty easy to use with virt-manager -- That, however, does not mean that vbox is inferior or anything. KVM is not working on MS Windows though, which might explain why more people are familiar with KVM. What do you need your virtual machines for? How many will there be? On what hardware do you run it? |
| 13:08.29 | amt0101 | ksuhku, Anyway, thank you very much for taking your time to help me out. |
| 13:08.44 | babilen | davidgul: Did you install the .39 kernel already? |
| 13:08.47 | ksuhku | amt np and good luck |
| 13:09.04 | davidgul | no i dont know hot to install it |
| 13:09.18 | amt0101 | ksuhku, I will try again on the debian list to see if I can get someone to tell me how to do things...or try here later. |
| 13:09.31 | ksuhku | probably a good idea amt0101 |
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| 13:09.37 | babilen | MrDeso: s/more people are familiar with KVM/more people are familiar with vbox/ -- :( |
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| 13:10.01 | babilen | !tell davidgul about bdo kernel |
| 13:10.04 | MrDeso | babilen: in this case there might just be the one sitting atop a super light linux box with my server in it; thought I'd do this because I might move machines quite a bit and this way I just need to transfer the .vbox files |
| 13:10.06 | babilen | !tell davidgul about bdo |
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| 13:12.59 | babilen | MrDeso: If your processor supports hardware virtualization (VT-X) you can use KVM. I would give both a try and see which one you like best. (Check processor support with: grep -wE "(svm|vmx)" /proc/cpuinfo) |
| 13:13.11 | MrDeso | ok thanks |
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| 13:21.35 | davidgul | babilen: what package i need to install in backports ? |
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| 13:21.50 | Andy1978 | How can I check the configure flags which were used when builing a debian package? For example: I want to know if "--enable-regex" was set in http://packages.debian.org/de/squeeze/hyperestraier |
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| 13:22.57 | abrotman | !tell Andy1978 about debian/rules |
| 13:23.59 | NikLP | still trying to sort out file permissions WRT apache vs. "current" user. Wondering if I can lock down one user area with setgid (set all f/d to be owned by apache with group of ~user) ? (similar to http://serverfault.com/questions/6895/whats-the-best-way-of-handling-permissions-for-apache2s-user-www-data-in-var) |
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| 13:25.43 | mutante | NikLP: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html |
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| 13:28.03 | NikLP | mutante: not sure of the relevance, sorry - my UserDir is all set up nicely :) |
| 13:28.07 | NikLP | the problem is with uploads |
| 13:28.21 | NikLP | ie apache writes files in my drupal install in blah/files |
| 13:28.32 | NikLP | but of course does so with apache:apache ownership |
| 13:28.41 | ne0 | how to install x11 correctly, because either virtualbox or iceweasel won't start |
| 13:28.47 | NikLP | then if I log in as "fred", I can't mod any of the files |
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| 13:29.08 | mutante | NikLP: if every user has the files in their own homedir, then uploading permissions should be no problem.. |
| 13:29.16 | NikLP | so wondering if setgid would be an option? ie set /files so all f/d are created (owned) by apache, but group of "fred"? |
| 13:29.37 | NikLP | mutante: nah cos the u/g is apache:apache ergo no can mod :/ |
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| 13:30.01 | mutante | NikLP: it works in your UserDir, doesnt it |
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| 13:30.18 | NikLP | sorry what does? |
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| 13:30.33 | mutante | modifying files, that apache can display |
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| 13:32.09 | NikLP | well not if apache:Apache, no...? the perms are supposed to be set 775 and 664 or maybe even 770 660 so fred wouldn't get a look in |
| 13:32.19 | NikLP | unless the group was fred |
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| 13:32.22 | mutante | just saying use the mechanisms of Apache, you can set up a UserDir in another path, dont have to use public_html |
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| 13:33.01 | et | NikLP: why don't you set the directory setgid? |
| 13:33.26 | aguitel | iam using xfce ,when try to open Xfce menu it no open <any clues? |
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| 13:34.38 | NikLP | et: that was my exact initial question :) is it "legit" to use setgid in this context so that f/d are apache:fred throughout? (I think I'm right in saying this is possible, and would mean fred could mod files etc with apache having free reign still, whilst locking out ~bill at the same time?) |
| 13:35.08 | NikLP | (assuming 770 and 660 presumably) |
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| 13:35.38 | NikLP | or would simply w-x on the top level dir stop ~bill in his tracks anyway...? |
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| 13:35.45 | Andy1978 | abrotman: okay and where can I find the used debian/rules? |
| 13:35.49 | stmaher | hi guys where can I get a lenny ISO these days? |
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| 13:37.01 | project2501a | is there a tweak in the kernel which allows me to automatically kill any process taking more than 1 core or say 90% of the usage of that core? |
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| 13:37.24 | Ragnar | In openbox, is there a way I could execute a python interface? |
| 13:37.28 | project2501a | i would like to google for something like that. problem is, i do not know what keywords i should look for. |
| 13:37.33 | Ragnar | I've tried putting python /path |
| 13:37.37 | Ragnar | but that doesnt seem to be working |
| 13:37.40 | Andy1978 | stmaher: http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ ? |
| 13:37.43 | Ragnar | in autostart.sh |
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| 13:38.26 | stmaher | Andy1978 thanks but unfortunately no debian 5 or lenny there :-( |
| 13:38.35 | Andy1978 | stmaher: hm, I see |
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| 13:39.48 | Andy1978 | stmaher: Ah, http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#old |
| 13:39.56 | abrotman | Andy1978: read the whole factoid |
| 13:40.27 | abrotman | stmaher: the CD site should still have lenny ISOs .. if not, check ftp.ch.debian.org |
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| 13:41.56 | Andy1978 | stmaher: Here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 13:42.13 | phrearch | hello |
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| 13:42.38 | phrearch | where can i find a good tutorial how to install lvm properly on a raid configation in debian? |
| 13:43.05 | stmaher | Andy1978 Thankyou.. that last link worked a treat! |
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| 13:43.35 | hivemind | why vimdiff command is not working? |
| 13:43.36 | hivemind | hivemind@debian:~$ vimdiff |
| 13:43.36 | hivemind | bash: vimdiff: ËÏÍÁÎÄÁ ÎÅ ÎÁÊÄÅÎÁ |
| 13:43.51 | Andy1978 | abrotman: I cant figure out what "factoid" imply in this context... |
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| 13:44.19 | jelly | !tell hivemind about localized errors |
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| 13:44.48 | hivemind | bash: vimdiff: command not found |
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| 13:45.33 | jelly | hivemind: uh, install the package containing that tool? |
| 13:45.44 | jelly | ,file bin/vimdiff |
| 13:45.47 | judd | No packages in squeeze/i386 were found with that file. |
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| 13:46.13 | hivemind | jelly, huh, /bin/vimdiff: ERROR: cannot open `/bin/vimdiff' (No such file or directory) |
| 13:46.21 | hivemind | but man vimdiff is working |
| 13:46.36 | jelly | hivemind: what does "type vimdiff" say |
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| 13:46.51 | hivemind | bash: type: vimdiff: not found |
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| 13:48.00 | Andy1978 | hivemind: have you installed vim-common ? |
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| 13:48.49 | NikLP | "vimdiff" on mine just opens vim...? :/ |
| 13:49.20 | hivemind | Andy1978, yes |
| 13:49.48 | Andy1978 | "vimdiff" is here (wheezy) a symbolic link to /usr/bin/vim.basic which is part of package "vim" |
| 13:50.27 | jelly | hivemind: might be the alternatives system got confused. Try running "update-alternatives --auto vimdiff" |
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| 13:51.00 | hivemind | update-alternatives: ÏÛÉÂËÁ: error: no alternatives for vimdiff |
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| 13:51.24 | hivemind | oh, forgot to erase ?ÏÛÉÂËÁ?. |
| 13:51.55 | jelly | hivemind: which debian release are you using. Is "vim" package even installed? |
| 13:52.38 | hivemind | jelly, oh... vim is not installed |
| 13:52.48 | NikLP | win! :) |
| 13:52.51 | hivemind | it's so strange. |
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| 13:54.10 | OsteHovel | Does debian installer autodetect witch kernel cpu type to install 386 or 686? |
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| 13:54.41 | jelly | OsteHovel: I think it does. |
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| 13:55.17 | MrDeso | is there a better way to set static IP's than editing /etc/network/interfaces and if not (without a GUI) what's the best way to do it? |
| 13:56.05 | OsteHovel | Jelly: Thats what i think too, we will find out during the install, mr Rusher20x is going to install debian on a k64 300mhz.... |
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| 13:56.31 | OsteHovel | I have had debian on a ~266mhz pc but its a while ago |
| 13:57.02 | Rusher20x | its 400mhz |
| 13:57.14 | Rusher20x | lol ostehovel u missed 100mhz again |
| 13:57.45 | Rusher20x | still waiting for the download to finish |
| 13:57.45 | boudiccas | !u |
| 13:57.45 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 13:57.48 | petemc | MrDeso: /etc/network/interfaces is the best way |
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| 14:00.36 | OsteHovel | I like dpkg |
| 14:00.43 | jelly | !pie |
| 14:00.43 | dpkg | [pie] NOT a mathematical term. It's a food. or about 8.539734222677. |
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| 14:01.16 | OsteHovel | !love |
| 14:01.16 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 14:01.16 | OsteHovel | !dpkg |
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| 14:01.45 | Rusher20x | i hope debian work for my old pc |
| 14:01.48 | Rusher20x | >.< |
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| 14:02.10 | OsteHovel | Damn it, my pda's internet connection aint exactly sable |
| 14:02.16 | [1]knob | Good morning everyone =) |
| 14:02.19 | dvs | Rusher20x: it has a way better chance working on an old computer |
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| 14:02.52 | Rusher20x | well i hope it can detect my serial mouse |
| 14:02.59 | abrotman | Andy1978: what the bot told you |
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| 14:03.10 | Rusher20x | also with 192mb of ram |
| 14:03.12 | dvs | O_O |
| 14:03.12 | jelly | Rusher20x: maybe not detect, but it can be made to work. |
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| 14:03.27 | Rusher20x | sorry |
| 14:03.31 | Rusher20x | my english is bad |
| 14:03.33 | Rusher20x | >< |
| 14:03.35 | Rusher20x | >.< |
| 14:03.37 | OsteHovel | Rusher20x: I guess you need to config the serial mouse |
| 14:03.41 | OsteHovel | But its posible |
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| 14:04.03 | Rusher20x | in puppylinux it can be config |
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| 14:04.17 | Rusher20x | but the mouse didnt worked |
| 14:04.21 | Andy1978 | abrotman: that debian/rules is used as makefile, and that I should be aware of spezial build tools which should be mentioned in debian/README |
| 14:04.44 | Rusher20x | instead when i use dsl it detect and also function smoothly |
| 14:04.55 | Andy1978 | abrotman: Furthermore I should add to changelog if making changes and so on. |
| 14:05.26 | Andy1978 | abrotman: Should I paste you the output of the bot? |
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| 14:07.21 | themill | Andy1978: you need to download the source package and look at the file debian/rules within the source package |
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| 14:07.46 | Rusher20x | OsteHovel i just found out the class is i586 |
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| 14:09.04 | Andy1978 | themill: the patches are automatically applied when "apt-get source hyperestraier" ? |
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| 14:09.33 | Rusher20x | but the iso you gave me to download is i386 |
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| 14:10.12 | themill | Andy1978: that depends on the package in question |
| 14:10.20 | OsteHovel | Rusher20x: its auto between i386 and the others |
| 14:10.23 | dvs | Rusher20x: you dont have a 686 |
| 14:10.42 | Andy1978 | themill: okay, I'll try. Thank you |
| 14:10.44 | OsteHovel | And the i386 version works on 586 and 686 but not the other way around |
| 14:11.12 | Rusher20x | i see |
| 14:11.36 | Rusher20x | cant wait to try debian |
| 14:11.54 | Rusher20x | does it support 3g modems? |
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| 14:12.14 | abrotman | Andy1978: i know what teh bot says .. what more were you looking for ? |
| 14:12.16 | OsteHovel | Dont forget you gonna need lots of patience and lots of curage to try new unknown stuff, and search help on the internet |
| 14:12.19 | abrotman | Rusher20x: yes |
| 14:12.31 | OsteHovel | !686 |
| 14:12.31 | dpkg | The 686 Debian kernel flavour can be used on PCs with an Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/4/4M/D/M, Xeon, Celeron, Core or Atom; AMD Geode LX/NX, Athlon (K7), Duron, Opteron, Sempron, Turion or Phenom; Transmeta Efficeon; VIA C3 "Nehemiah" or C7 processor. You can also use a 686 kernel with a <x86-64> processor for a 32-bit kernel (rather than the amd64 kernel). See also <bigmem>, <686-pae>. |
| 14:12.37 | Rusher20x | using wdial? |
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| 14:15.43 | Andy1978 | abrotman: Soething like : "You can download the source via packages.debian.org, then download and apply the patches, then have a look at debian/rules" or: "grab the source with apt-get source, then apply the patches, then...." |
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| 14:15.56 | OsteHovel | !586 |
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| 14:17.36 | themill | dpkg: tell Andy1978 about source |
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| 14:20.52 | Andy1978 | themill: no, your post helped but abrotman asked "what more were you looking for ?" |
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| 14:23.12 | Bartzy | I have a deb file. Can I change its description without extracting and the repackaging it ? |
| 14:23.35 | mosno | Bartzy: hex editor? ;) |
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| 14:24.10 | mosno | shuts up and lets the pros handle this |
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| 14:24.39 | OsteHovel | Im so gonna setup my bouncher to include freenode when i come home from work im so tired of reconnecting |
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| 14:25.38 | OsteHovel | I have talked to dpkg now, and he/she seems like a good person :) |
| 14:25.47 | OsteHovel | But he/she is missing 586 else its good |
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| 14:26.14 | phrearch | anyone knows how? to set a partition to the drive's max size in parted |
| 14:26.15 | phrearch | ? |
| 14:26.42 | boudiccas | OsteHovel; whats a 'bouncher'? |
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| 14:27.03 | ghenry | Is this right? How do I just use one -F ? curl -i -X POST -F "myfile=@t/test.json" -F "param1=value1" -F "param2=value2" http://localhost/ |
| 14:27.27 | ghenry | ignore that has .json on the file, I'm just trying to transfer a file |
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| 14:27.59 | OsteHovel | Its a software you have running on mostly pc/servers thats on 24/7 that is in the midle of your irc, like you setup your client to connect to the bouncher and the bouncher to connect to the irc server, that way you are always online, and i the client disconnects and reconnects you can get the messages you lost in the meantime, also it hides the quit and joins |
| 14:28.34 | boudiccas | OsteHovel; doesnt sound like an english word though |
| 14:28.55 | themill | boudiccas: bouncer |
| 14:29.17 | boudiccas | themill; i did wonder if thats what he meant, which is why i asked |
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| 14:29.44 | themill | I think the intention was pretty obvious from the context. |
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| 14:29.58 | OsteHovel | Sorry, that english is not my first language. |
| 14:30.09 | Bartzy | Using checkinstall, how can I add 2 more files to the deb package (init script and /etc/default/ file) ? |
| 14:30.21 | themill | OsteHovel: no need to apologise, that probably applies to most people here. |
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| 14:35.30 | sephii | I don't know where to ask this so I'll try here: do any of you know if an intel i3 processor is powerful enough to decode a 1080p video? also is h264 hardware decoding supported by the intel driver? |
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| 14:37.10 | ne0 | hey, now everthing is working fine, but one more question. I install virtualbox 3.2.10 but the new version is 4.0.10. The new version is backports? It is recommend to install it and if yes, how? |
| 14:37.43 | ksk | !tell ne0 about backports |
| 14:38.08 | ksk | mhm, i would say if you dont need or want this newer version there is no need to use backports |
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| 14:39.00 | Bartzy | How do you do a line break in deb descriptions ?! :\ |
| 14:39.24 | themill | dpkg: tell Bartzy about policy |
| 14:39.51 | Bartzy | themill: Why policy has to do with line breaks ? |
| 14:40.03 | ne0 | ksk: thx |
| 14:40.08 | themill | Bartzy: do you think that, perhaps, policy defines these things? |
| 14:40.18 | Bartzy | themill: I'm trying to debianize a package with checkinstall. I added a line break between the first and second line of my package description |
| 14:40.46 | Bartzy | I added the empty line, but when seeing the description of the deb file with dpkg -I my-package, it doesn't have the empty line. |
| 14:40.49 | Bartzy | That drives me crazy :) |
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| 14:43.15 | Bartzy | themill: Thanks. I got you :) |
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| 14:44.45 | sidewalk | wops, sorry |
| 14:44.48 | sidewalk | im having problems when trying to install netinst iso amd64 with the hw raid, the partitions are read-only, anyone have any ideas? |
| 14:44.55 | ectospasm | I figured out my GNOME font problem, sorta... For whatever reason, when I choose Terminus, it sets "Terminus (ttf)". This is wrong, so I have to use gconf-editor to remove the (ttf), and now gnome-terminal uses Terminus 12... |
| 14:45.24 | ectospasm | ...xfce4-terminal font dialog suffers from the same problem... don't know how to fix it for xfce... |
| 14:45.37 | babilen | Bartzy: Got the "point" ? ;) |
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| 14:48.59 | abrotman | Andy1978: you wanted full instructions? :) |
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| 14:49.19 | project2501a | is there a tweak in the kernel which allows me to automatically kill any process taking more than 1 core or say 90% of the usage of that core? i would like to google for something like that. problem is, i do not know what keywords i should look for. can i have a clue, please? |
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| 14:50.01 | boudiccas | !clue |
| 14:50.01 | dpkg | a clue is something that puts you on track to something, however you will not know for sure that the track you are put on is the right one. So, the conclusion is that whenever you get a clue you should investigate it! NOW!!, but something shift and dimension-42 need. Command Line User Environment, or something clueless people do without. http://okkie.frob.nl/clueshop.jpg |
| 14:50.08 | boudiccas | !clue |
| 14:50.24 | project2501a | waves to boudiccas |
| 14:50.38 | boudiccas | project2501a; hi there :) |
| 14:50.52 | petemc | project2501a: you could look in /etc/security/limits.conf |
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| 14:51.03 | project2501a | petemc: will do |
| 14:52.40 | pr0d | Hi all, I have a problem which i just cant solve by myself or google. For some reason I just cant mount an NFS share at boot. At first I thought it was a timing issue with my network bridges so I sought help there with no avail. For a test i decided to remove my bridge and try with a bare minimum "auto eth0" statically assigned address. To my suprise it still does not work. Now im totally stumped and would really appreciate any sort of |
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| 14:54.08 | ectospasm | pr0d: pastebin your fstab lines with the NFS mounts |
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| 14:56.24 | pr0d | ectospasm: ok, my fstab is a bit minimal now after so much testing but it still works with "mount -a". just startin the client, wont take long |
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| 14:56.48 | ectospasm | pr0d: all I need to see is the fstab lines for nfs |
| 14:57.03 | ectospasm | pr0d: so "grep nfs /etc/fstab" is all you need to paste. |
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| 14:57.26 | pr0d | 192.168.0.1:/xen /xen nfs auto,_netdev 0 0 |
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| 14:58.26 | ectospasm | pr0d: does dmesg or /var/log/messages contain any hints just after boot? |
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| 14:58.51 | pr0d | ectospasm: no thats the most infuriating bit |
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| 15:00.06 | ectospasm | hmmm, my nfs shares use defaults rather than auto (I think defaults contains auto)... |
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| 15:01.02 | pr0d | ectospasm: akaik it may not even be trying to mount it at boot. In pure desperation i tryed to mount the NFS with network script "post-up mount -t bla bla" and then i got an error but i cant remember what it was, somethin along the lines of "rcpbind connection refused" or something, u want me to recreate for testin? |
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| 15:02.01 | Maxou56800 | yo |
| 15:03.39 | pr0d | ectospasm: do you think it may have somethin to do with the server? I doubt it myself as "mount -a" works fine but im willin to try just about anythin now. |
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| 15:04.56 | ectospasm | pr0d: maybe do a packet capture from the 192.168.0.1, see if it gets any NFS traffic from the mounting system. |
| 15:05.41 | pr0d | ectospasm: Ive never used wireshark before but i suppose i could give it a shot |
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| 15:06.49 | pr0d | ectospasm: do you know what i need to look for? A certain port or? |
| 15:08.41 | ectospasm | pr0d: hold on |
| 15:09.20 | ectospasm | pr0d: ports 111 and 2049 |
| 15:09.52 | pr0d | ectospasm: ty, bare with me tho, this may take some time as i am clueless in the use of wireshark :D |
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| 15:11.54 | ectospasm | pr0d: it's always a learning opportunity! |
| 15:12.21 | pr0d | ectospasm: completely agreed :D |
| 15:13.04 | pr0d | ectospasm: are you gonna be here a while? I have already hit a little snag which could take a few mins |
| 15:13.26 | ectospasm | I can't guarantee anything, I _am_ at work... |
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| 15:14.18 | ectospasm | pr0d: the only other suggestion I have is the one I made earlier... not sure if one of the defaults options is holding you back, but try defaults instead of just auto |
| 15:14.27 | ectospasm | ...in addition to _netdev |
| 15:15.01 | pr0d | OK, i just need to set capture privileges, shouldnt take too long |
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| 15:15.37 | pr0d | ectospasm: I have tryed so many options, im quite sure ive covered them all yesterday. |
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| 15:18.22 | DasEi | before I try myself on vm, has anyone tried a 3~ Kernel with nvidia propitary drivers working ? I found few posts with altering contents in view of success.. |
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| 15:20.54 | gnarface | DasEi: its working fine for me on kernel 3.1 in SID |
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| 15:23.04 | DasEi | gnarface: thanks, squeeze here, http://tinyurl.com/77sj25w looks promising |
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| 15:23.57 | gnarface | DasEi: i'm on amd64, which *shouldn't* matter, but it *is* a separate driver build so issues *could* be different for i386 |
| 15:24.07 | pmade | Is there a command that will tell me which source repository a package will come from if I try to install it? |
| 15:24.23 | dvs | pmade: apt-cache policy |
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| 15:24.39 | pmade | dvs: thanks. |
| 15:24.47 | dvs | np |
| 15:24.48 | DasEi | gnarface: vm's are a great thing, just to ask if any known no-go's are already up |
| 15:25.11 | DasEi | pmade: apt-cache show |
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| 15:25.49 | dvs | DasEi: That just gives a description |
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| 15:27.03 | DasEi | dvs: right, version, not repo |
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| 15:28.55 | threadlock | question about the multiarch-support package in wheezy, 2.13-24; if I fetch it from ftp.jp.debian.org it has Depends: libc6 (>= 2.13-5), if I fetch it from debian.lth.se it has Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-2) |
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| 15:29.40 | threadlock | aaah, these are two different machines, one is running i386 and the other amd64 |
| 15:30.29 | threadlock | but =( either way, the latest squid3 package in wheezy depends on multiarch-support, apparently |
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| 15:31.20 | themill | threadlock: yes. This shouldn't be a problem though. |
| 15:31.24 | Sefid_par | dpkg |
| 15:31.38 | pr0d | ectospasm: I think im right in sayin the NFS share is not even attempted on boot |
| 15:32.26 | Sefid_par | Hi, Who is answering robot here? |
| 15:32.37 | threadlock | themill: it has more dependencies from wheezy for i386 than it has for amd64, that is somewhat of a problem since we want to keep our machines at stable as far as possible |
| 15:32.54 | themill | threadlock: then you wouldn't be using wheezy... |
| 15:33.14 | themill | threadlock: wait... are you trying to mix stable and testing? |
| 15:33.22 | threadlock | themill: but we want the squid3 package from wheezy (and that repo is pinned down) |
| 15:33.33 | dvs | tsk tsk tsk |
| 15:33.33 | themill | no.. don't do that. It will end in tears |
| 15:33.34 | threadlock | not just trying, actively mixing |
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| 15:34.16 | Sefid_par | !port |
| 15:34.16 | dpkg | [port] To port something, you translate the code for a program from one platform to another; you could port a program you wrote on a PC over to a Macintosh, for example. For TCP and UDP port numbers, see the IANA's list at http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers |
| 15:34.26 | dvs | !ssb |
| 15:34.26 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 15:36.09 | threadlock | themill: just for a bare minimum of packages; squid3, squid3-common and their dependencies |
| 15:36.45 | threadlock | it doesn't hurt yet, apart from me realising that we have a i386 squid proxy |
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| 15:37.13 | themill | threadlock: no. don't do it... as you can see, you're going to end up with a multiargh-ified libc and that will cascade into a number of other libraries. Rebuild the package for squeeze as dpkg described a few lines back. |
| 15:37.19 | nze | rsync doesn't have ftp support and fails when I mount a ftp share with curlftpfs. what can i use to sync from a local dir to a ftp share? |
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| 15:39.10 | michelem | hello folks |
| 15:39.24 | jhutchins_wk | nze: rsync to the ftp server over ssh. |
| 15:39.41 | michelem | in my saga with reportbug, I set "—from" to a meaningful address, but got a confirmation as root@mydomain |
| 15:39.56 | nze | jhutchins_wk: i don't have ssh access |
| 15:40.03 | michelem | is there any way to cancel a submission and do it over? |
| 15:41.07 | sidewalk | are you guys saying i cant install Debian on a system with hw-raid currently? |
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| 15:41.38 | ectospasm | nasty:/share/Multimedia /nasty/multimedia nfs _netdev,defaults 0 0 |
| 15:41.44 | ectospasm | er, wrong window |
| 15:42.18 | ectospasm | or, bad paste... |
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| 15:42.33 | DasEi | sidewalk: yes |
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| 15:43.04 | sidewalk | DasEi: that sucks, Ubuntu installs fine, why doesn't debian? |
| 15:43.35 | DasEi | sidewalk:sucks ? no, either on hardware-raid or on softraid, debian does fine, too |
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| 15:43.52 | sidewalk | DasEi: but i cant install it? |
| 15:44.00 | DasEi | sidewalk: you can |
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| 15:44.14 | ectospasm | sidewalk: you might be missing options/kernel modules for your hw-raid controller... just a guess. |
| 15:44.46 | ectospasm | Ubuntu *may* be including things that Debian does not by default. |
| 15:44.48 | sidewalk | DasEi: how? when trying to install the raid drives are mounted as read-only |
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| 15:45.37 | sidewalk | this is my raid controller, 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 SATA RAID Controller (rev 04) |
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| 15:46.05 | DasEi | sidewalk:true hardware raid as dawiontrol and such or softraid (better experiences with than pseaudo raid, like jmicron onboard) ? |
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| 15:46.59 | DasEi | sidewalk: I see, considerusing mdadm while installation, the perfomance loss is minimal, the functionality isn't |
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| 15:47.52 | sidewalk | DasEi: how do i do that? |
| 15:47.53 | RichiH | ok, i have two machines and if i try to rsync (via ssh) a ton of data between the two, i get random ssh errors. other than taking a third machine into account, what's a good way to debug which machine is causing this? |
| 15:48.35 | sidewalk | i have a sabertooth p67 motherboard with that intel raid controller i mentioned, 2 1tb disks |
| 15:48.40 | DasEi | sidewalk: I assume mirror ? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 15:49.27 | sidewalk | "Note that support for SATA RAID is experimental and is only available in the Lenny version of the installer." |
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| 15:49.34 | DasEi | sidewalk: if you install in expert mode (bootoption of installermedium) you get the extended settings |
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| 15:50.02 | DasEi | sidewalk: current version is squeeze |
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| 15:50.34 | threadlock | themill: it is not something for us not to do, rather to undo, in that case.. =] |
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| 15:50.48 | themill | threadlock: ewww... really not a good situation to be in |
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| 15:51.33 | threadlock | themill: we have too little time and knowledge to build our own packages at the moment, but we are talking about having internal education for this |
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| 15:51.51 | DasEi | sidewalk: the installer has got nice grahics to achieve it, for a basic understanding read up about mdadm and -maybe- lvm |
| 15:52.13 | DasEi | graphics* |
| 15:52.23 | OsteHovel | And im back, and btw |
| 15:52.37 | Rusher20x | ostel |
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| 15:52.51 | OsteHovel | Hæ? I was just botting up the pc thats suposed to load debian, and suddenly windows xp appairs |
| 15:52.51 | Rusher20x | im installing debian now |
| 15:53.02 | OsteHovel | In text mode? |
| 15:53.03 | Rusher20x | lol |
| 15:53.07 | SPF | I'm unable to start screen as a user on a vps (root has no problems) with error: No More pty. It also seems that udev is not running and cannot be started -> udev requires hotplug support, not started. ... failed! |
| 15:53.09 | Rusher20x | nope |
| 15:53.26 | Rusher20x | i choose install in boot up |
| 15:53.34 | sidewalk | DasEi: i have tried with the dmraid=true option, but still i only get read-only for the raid drive |
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| 15:56.27 | sarc | What is the best channel for asking GPL questions? |
| 15:56.40 | sidewalk | DasEi: ill check the mdadm, thanks |
| 15:56.46 | DasEi | sidewalk: last time I did it I just used netinstall (squeeze) on expert mode, then first set up the raid 1 , then afterwards the other partioning, even no special bootargs, just two similar clean disks |
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| 15:57.12 | jhutchins_wk | SPF: What's the hypervisor? |
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| 15:57.25 | jhutchins_wk | SPF: (And what is it running on?) |
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| 15:58.15 | DasEi | sidewalk: mdadm is fine if you want to do itmanually afterwards, but the installers background of softraid is just that |
| 15:59.29 | sidewalk | DasEi: thanks |
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| 15:59.49 | SPF | jhutchins_wk: hypervisor? |
| 16:00.00 | DasEi | sidewalk: as i can, np |
| 16:00.10 | sarc | Anyone have a suggestiong on the best place to ask GPL questions? |
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| 16:01.15 | SPF | jhutchins_wk: I dont know, I guess I'll have to ask by email |
| 16:01.24 | DasEi | sarc: best, hehe, here, any of the derivate's offtopic-channels or ##linux, I'd say |
| 16:02.20 | jhutchins_wk | SPF: Is it XEN or VMWare or something like that? |
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| 16:02.35 | sarc | DasEi: Thanks |
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| 16:16.16 | Cain | I have a 2Tb Hard Disk, can i use it to install Debian squeeze on it ? and which format is more apropriate for handling table partitions ? gpt ? mbr ? |
| 16:16.20 | SPF | jhutchins_wk: I dont know, I'll come back to you when I have this info |
| 16:17.38 | jelly | Cain: for a disk with a nominal capacity of 2TB, either will work (MBR has a limit at about 2.2TB) |
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| 16:18.56 | Cain | jelly : thx actually it was used with gpt on a windows machine, no need to change that i guess then |
| 16:19.06 | jhutchins_wk | SPF: I don't know anything about VM's so I don't know what difference it makes, but it doesn't sound like the VM is set up proprly. |
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| 16:28.51 | bolt | Is "command=" in authorized_keys completely ignored when I use ForceCommand in sshd_config? With just ForceCommand, I can retrieve the command entered by the user from $SSH_FORCED_COMMAND, but there doesn't seem to be a way to get the command from authorized_keys. any ideas? |
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| 16:30.08 | bolt | er. $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND is the variable :) |
| 16:30.18 | bolt | but i still wonder about the authorized_keys one |
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| 16:31.58 | NikLP | is it still true that setuid won't work on a directory? |
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| 16:33.56 | tonytraductor | postfix, dovecot and saslauthd are all running, but when I telnet localhost 25 > ehlo localhost, I do not see 250-STARTTL |
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| 16:34.18 | tonytraductor | smtp connections are refuse (no mail in or out) |
| 16:34.36 | tonytraductor | also, openssl keeps writing my cert with the wrong FQDN. |
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| 16:35.12 | themill | bolt: sshd_config(5) implies it is ignored, yes. |
| 16:35.31 | tonytraductor | my fqdn is vulcan.tonybaldwin.org, but my cert says vulcan.linode.com. I set it correctly in postfix/main.cf and when running dkpg-reconfigure postfix, but when I write the cert, it keeps coming up with the wrong fqdn |
| 16:35.38 | tonytraductor | hostname -f shows the correct fqdn |
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| 16:38.04 | Steeltip | hi @ all |
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| 16:39.10 | Steeltip | Is there anyone so kind to explain me why i have got two "php.ini" files (one under /etc/php5/cli and one under /etc/php5/apache2 ) ? |
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| 16:42.03 | NikLP | Steeltip: one is used when you run php on the command line |
| 16:42.08 | NikLP | the other is used by apache |
| 16:42.21 | NikLP | they are likely identical (iirc?) |
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| 16:42.50 | Steeltip | ok , but where has this been defined ? |
| 16:42.57 | NikLP | I should rephrase my earlier question: does setuid affect new file ownership on debian or not? |
| 16:43.08 | NikLP | Steeltip: where has what been defined? |
| 16:43.11 | MrDeso | Hi, could use some help with setting up my network :( I can't connect to the internet on my new debian install but SSH via 192.160.* works fine |
| 16:43.52 | thisthat | mrdeso you need to forward port 22 to your machines local ip address |
| 16:44.01 | thisthat | on your router |
| 16:44.27 | MrDeso | nono I meant it's on the network but it can't connect to the internet, I know port forwarding and such |
| 16:44.28 | Steeltip | where has been defined to use /etc/php/cli/php.ini for cli and /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini for apache? , when i $grep -ir php /etc/apache/* , i do not find anything what leads to the apache/php.ini file |
| 16:44.37 | thisthat | oh |
| 16:44.46 | thisthat | is it a DNS problem, what does your /etc/my.resolv say |
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| 16:44.59 | thisthat | i mean /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:45.16 | MrDeso | 192.168.0.1 which is correct |
| 16:45.33 | thisthat | you have the correct gateway specified? |
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| 16:46.11 | ksk | hey ppl |
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| 16:46.19 | MrDeso | auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.247 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 16:46.45 | MrDeso | I only specified addres and net mask because some sites indicated that I didn't need the rest |
| 16:46.58 | MrDeso | I have tried it will all the options filled but it still didn't work |
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| 16:47.23 | colo-work | without a gateway, that won't work. |
| 16:47.32 | colo-work | except for your subnet, of course |
| 16:47.38 | colo-work | which is exactly what you are observing |
| 16:47.54 | mike3 | also, you'll need a dns server in your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:47.58 | ksk | is there a cool way to provide an user access via (encrypted)rsync (and nothing else)? |
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| 16:48.13 | ksk | like scponly shell, but for rsync? :x |
| 16:48.15 | Steeltip | NikLP, do you know where has been defined to use /etc/php/cli/php.ini for cli and /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini for apache? , when i $grep -ir php /etc/apache/* , i do not find anything what leads to the apache/php.ini file |
| 16:48.29 | colo-work | ksk, use openssh's force-command feature in authorized_keys files |
| 16:48.50 | MrDeso | btw is there an alternative to ifdown -a & ifup -a? |
| 16:49.12 | ksk | colo-work: nice idea, but i cannot rely on authorzied_keys |
| 16:49.30 | MrDeso | ohwut?! It's working, thanks |
| 16:49.34 | NikLP | Steeltip: not sure but you have to remember that if you're using apache w/ mod_php it's already loaded so the php.ini will be getting it from there somehow |
| 16:49.39 | colo-work | ksk, you cannot, because? |
| 16:50.13 | NikLP | Steeltip: so I guess if you change apache2/php.ini you should restart apache and that will also get the new php.ini |
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| 16:50.25 | Steeltip | ok thank you very much for helping NikLP |
| 16:50.33 | ksk | i definitly cannot, sorry :p |
| 16:50.59 | ksk | it has to work with password login, too |
| 16:51.17 | colo-work | yeah, well, have fun then. |
| 16:51.21 | colo-work | maybe rsyncd can use TLS |
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| 16:51.33 | ksk | imho it cannot |
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| 16:53.16 | OsteHovel | How does it go Rusher20x? |
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| 16:56.33 | aguitel | how install lxde menu editor ? |
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| 16:59.39 | qxt | Was wondering why my time is off by 1 hour. Using UTC=yes. See it both with hwclock etc. tzdata is set right. |
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| 17:00.34 | themill | ls |
| 17:00.37 | themill | gah |
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| 17:01.30 | tonytraductor | saslauthd is running, but telnet localhost 25 > ehlo localhost does not show 250-STARTTL, requests to the smtp server are all denied. |
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| 17:02.12 | tonytraductor | also, openssl keeps putting the wrong FQDN on my cert, although it is set correctly in postfix/main.cf, and hostname -f shows the correct FQDN |
| 17:03.11 | tonytraductor | tail /var/log/mail.* indicates that port 25 is busy, but the only thing listening on it is the smtp server, too. |
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| 17:03.40 | tonytraductor | so my mail is not going in/out (although users on the server can mail each other fine, and I can read the mailbox with imap) |
| 17:04.15 | tonytraductor | ok, users can mail each other with mailx, but not with mutt, because mutt uses the smtp to send, of course |
| 17:04.37 | tonytraductor | so users can not mail each other in squirrelmail, either, just mailx on the server |
| 17:04.43 | tonytraductor | I made a few dummy accts to test this. |
| 17:05.02 | petemc | mutt doesnt use smtp by default |
| 17:05.06 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.29 | breardo | so... i've got a box running squeeze like 200 miles north of where I am... any way I can get wheezy on there, remotely? |
| 17:07.40 | breardo | no IPMI unforunately.. or this would be a breeze |
| 17:08.16 | themill | breardo: you can do the dist-upgrade remotely, but running a testing box remotely isn't a lot of fun |
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| 17:08.36 | breardo | i agree.. but i've had great luck with wheezy so far..so im pretty confident |
| 17:08.49 | aguitel | how install lxde menu editor ? |
| 17:08.54 | breardo | and this box is non-critical.. so if I take it down for a few days.. i can handle that |
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| 17:11.08 | tonytraductor | aguitel: try aptitude install obmenu ? |
| 17:11.19 | tonytraductor | that's the openbox menu editor |
| 17:11.34 | tonytraductor | oh, that will edit the desktop menu for openbox, but I think lxde overrides that menu |
| 17:11.48 | tonytraductor | I use plain openbox, not lxde |
| 17:11.58 | aguitel | tonytraductor, ok |
| 17:12.19 | aguitel | tonytraductor, i am in xfce and try to edit menus |
| 17:12.31 | tonytraductor | of course, in ~/.config/lxde/ I believe there should be a menu.xml you can edit by hand. |
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| 17:12.41 | tonytraductor | there is one in ~/.config/openbox/ |
| 17:12.53 | tonytraductor | hold on, I'll look on my laptop (has lxde installed). |
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| 17:13.45 | aguitel | ok |
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| 17:14.49 | cubuanic | hi all, i use debian/testing, with firefox 8.0-3+b1 and seamonkey 2.0.14-9 on xorg 7.6 and xmoand 0.10-2. i don't see config option in FF to handle horizontal scrolling, so i'm trying handle it by xmonad and send alt+left/right low-level Xevents. this doesn't work in FF, but works fine in Chromium (so i'm pretty sure that problem is in FF) |
| 17:14.57 | tonytraductor | I do not find .config/lxde... |
| 17:15.07 | cubuanic | after some experiments, seems that FF doesn't accept any manually-generated X events. is this known issue? how i can fix/workaround this?... |
| 17:15.10 | cubuanic | by the way, seems SeaMonkey also doesn't accept all manually-generated X events |
| 17:15.42 | tonytraductor | nor a menu.xml in the .config/openbox on the lxde laptop, but that IS peppermintos, not debian (peppermint being a lightweight ubuntu+mint remix) |
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| 17:15.47 | tonytraductor | I do not have lxde on this box |
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| 17:15.55 | boudiccas | cubuanic; tried iceweasel? |
| 17:16.08 | tonytraductor | ok, back to work |
| 17:16.09 | cubuanic | yes, with firefox i meant iceweasel |
| 17:16.26 | tonytraductor | I'll come back later and ask again about my postfix/smtp woes, since I get not response now. |
| 17:16.28 | cubuanic | and with seamonkey - iceape |
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| 17:18.48 | aguitel | why in my system (debian testing ) installed linux-image 3.1xx pae ? i have 1 mega of ram memory |
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| 17:21.25 | babilen | !tell aguitel -about 686-pae |
| 17:21.45 | cubuanic | any help, please?.. |
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| 17:22.13 | babilen | aguitel: And you only have a 1MiB of RAM? (GiB probably, no?) |
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| 17:22.36 | boudiccas | cubuanic; oleg, try asking your question again with the software that you are /actually/ using this time |
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| 17:23.00 | aguitel | babilen, only 1 gib of ram i have |
| 17:23.15 | babilen | aguitel: Ok, see dpkg's message. |
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| 17:24.56 | smooki | hi, please one cool command line to update date ? |
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| 17:25.35 | cubuanic | debian/testing, iceweasel/8.0-3+b1, iceape/2.0.14-9 - manually generated X event are ignored by all of them, but not ignored by other programs (for example chromium or rxvt-unicode) - is this known problem? how i can fix/workaround it? |
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| 17:26.02 | cubuanic | boudiccas: is it better now?... |
| 17:26.41 | babilen | !tell smooki -about set time |
| 17:26.52 | babilen | smooki: I would strongly recommend to use NTP though |
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| 17:27.18 | smooki | yes babilen just found a link |
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| 17:28.42 | boudiccas | cubuanic; yes thasks, have you tried opera? |
| 17:29.13 | devhen | on my deb squeeze boxes i have a php issue- when i access my site through https rather than http i am getting the same session id and yet i dont have access to my session variables. any ideas ? |
| 17:30.27 | cubuanic | no, i don't have it installed. why this is needed? i think if i have at least two other programs where everything works as expected, then it's clean that problem is not related to xorg or xmonad settings, this is definitely related to iceweasel/iceape (and i suppose to icedove too) |
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| 17:31.55 | grimeton | hi |
| 17:32.01 | cubuanic | i just tried to run on same desktop other x clients, from box with kde - they also accept generated events without problems. i tried in kfontview, keepassx - hope this is enough?... |
| 17:32.06 | grimeton | after installing slapd, what's the admin password for cn=config? |
| 17:32.16 | grimeton | imho it's not set at all, right? |
| 17:32.27 | somiaj | cubuanic: not all programs like synethic xevents. |
| 17:32.40 | boudiccas | cubuanic; you asked for a fix/workaround, opera may be it |
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| 17:33.35 | cubuanic | thanks, but no - i need use same iceape/iceweasel, but want they accept such events. may be there is some specific way how i should generate events? |
| 17:34.17 | cubuanic | somiaj: is there known fix/workaround for such kind of problems? |
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| 17:36.14 | somiaj | cubuanic: maybe the firefox/iceape people may know a better way to achive what you are wanting to. |
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| 17:37.31 | cubuanic | i already asked on #firefox, but still have no reply.... |
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| 17:38.38 | cubuanic | ok, then other question. i suppose that xmonad can generate events not entirely properly, and want to try use some external generator. can you tell me some package that equivalent of http://xsendevt.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 17:38.51 | somiaj | cubuanic: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/web/firefox-scrolling-fix.html (is something like that what you need, I didn't really follow what your original probelm was) |
| 17:39.25 | somiaj | cubuanic: my guess is it is more mozilla ignoring the synethic event so it shouldn't really matter what you use to create it |
| 17:39.55 | cubuanic | i want top try and be sure |
| 17:40.01 | cubuanic | *top -> to |
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| 17:41.53 | [1]knob | Hello... I have a new-install Debian box. I would like to setup ftp... is there a best way to do it? I have a google search open, yet I see various options... |
| 17:41.55 | cubuanic | somiaj: thanks for link, i think it solve my problem with horizontal scrolling. but i have lot more generated events, i want to have generic solution |
| 17:42.15 | [1]knob | Should it be "pureftp" ? |
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| 17:42.34 | cubuanic | forget, use vsftpd :) |
| 17:42.45 | [1]knob | vsftpd ... on my way to searc that. |
| 17:42.46 | [1]knob | thanks |
| 17:42.47 | somiaj | [1]knob: there are various ftp servers in debian, choose the one you like the best, over all they are all insecure. |
| 17:43.07 | somiaj | [1]knob: also ensure you want/need ftp as opposed to ssh/sftp |
| 17:43.27 | [1]knob | Yeah... I do everything via ssh/sftp, yet want to test out some things via ftp |
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| 17:43.35 | [1]knob | non-production server |
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| 17:44.31 | [1]knob | ... apt-get install vsftpd and that's it?? |
| 17:44.44 | somiaj | [1]knob: apt-cache search vsftpd (if you want to double check package names) |
| 17:45.03 | somiaj | [1]knob: also apt-cache search ftp, and apt-cache show <pkg name> and you can read the descriptions of the various packages you find |
| 17:45.21 | [1]knob | That's going to my notebook. Thank you! |
| 17:45.28 | somiaj | [1]knob: also once you install ftp, you could try looking at /usr/share/doc/<pkgname> in your ftp server package for some additional postinstall docs |
| 17:45.32 | [1]knob | And to learn: Why apt-cache ? |
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| 17:45.48 | somiaj | [1]knob: you can use aptitude search, apt-cache is just program I'm use to using |
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| 17:46.15 | somiaj | apt-cache allows you to search though your sources.list sources to find packages, show info about available packages, etc |
| 17:46.27 | [1]knob | ahhh ok |
| 17:46.34 | somiaj | it searches thought he cache created by 'apt-get update or aptitude update' |
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| 17:47.33 | [1]knob | Great! That explains where the "cache" part comes form =) with two other useful commands |
| 17:47.36 | taurus86 | !lamp |
| 17:47.36 | dpkg | LAMP: Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} server. Ask me about <install debian><install apache2><install mysql><install php>. (Hmm... doesn't that make it a DAMP stack?), or "aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql". http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 17:48.00 | melik | hey guys i'm having issues loading up adaptec universal storage mib to net-snmp |
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| 17:48.14 | taurus86 | <install debian><install apache2><install mysql><install php> |
| 17:48.27 | taurus86 | install apache2 |
| 17:48.36 | somiaj | taurus86: /msg dpkg factoid |
| 17:48.38 | ksx4system | taurus: I think you should /msg it to dpkg |
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| 17:48.40 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell taurus86 about msg the bot |
| 17:48.43 | somiaj | taurus86: so you don't spam the channel, (: |
| 17:49.23 | tharkun | What is the bashscript that triggers the initial fsck on an ext3 system after $x number of mounts? |
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| 17:50.05 | daemonkeeper | tharkun: That's embedded into ext itself. See tune2fs(8) |
| 17:50.10 | ksx4system | tharkun: google for ext3 fsck interval |
| 17:50.36 | tharkun | Also what is the probability of an fsck process screwing beyond repair a filesystem if it detected errors and it runned out of battery when "fixing" stuff? |
| 17:50.46 | acu_ | what is up with the wheezy update ? _ I did once with apt-get update, and it seem it updated, I rebooted then I GUI Software Update in GNOME3 and it still have a ton of applications to be updated - and it is so slow ? |
| 17:51.12 | tharkun | acu_: apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 17:51.12 | ksx4system | tharkun: quite small |
| 17:51.26 | acu_ | thrankun: but it was running wheezy before |
| 17:51.42 | acu_ | I should still use dist-upgrade ? |
| 17:51.48 | somiaj | acu_: update doesn't install anything, it only updates the available packages, use upgrade / dist-upgrade |
| 17:51.56 | somiaj | acu_: also look at the difference between the two in the man page |
| 17:51.58 | tharkun | ksx4system: I hope so, it has happened 3 times this year |
| 17:52.02 | babilen | acu_: You still frequently need it -- You might want to read the manpage of apt-get/aptitude to get a better understanding of what upgrade/dist-upgrade do. |
| 17:52.20 | ksx4system | tharkun: buy new and/or RMA old drives. |
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| 17:52.35 | tharkun | ksx4system: for a 2 year old laptop ;P |
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| 17:53.00 | ksx4system | tharkun: well... don't you have shitgate drive there? |
| 17:53.19 | ksx4system | tharkun: I had drive from them which died after three months of usage. |
| 17:53.27 | tharkun | ksx4system: no, but if fsck keeps running the battery out every other day then i will have one |
| 17:53.49 | tharkun | there the reason for my first question |
| 17:54.23 | ksx4system | tharkun: lol, by the way why ext3? get ext4 |
| 17:54.29 | ksx4system | ext3 is ancient |
| 17:54.41 | [1]knob | I ran apt-cache search vsftp, and it gave me back the list... once I know the package I want (and its name), how do I install it? |
| 17:54.44 | tharkun | ksx4system: because i had a terrible hangover the day i installed this laptop ;P |
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| 17:54.52 | [1]knob | I tried: apt-get <package.name> yet... failed |
| 17:54.57 | ksx4system | tharkun: oh, then I understand :D |
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| 17:55.47 | [1]knob | apt-get install vsftp |
| 17:55.49 | [1]knob | got it =) |
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| 17:57.20 | ryn_ | can anyone recommend a malware scanner for Squeeze |
| 17:57.29 | ryn_ | i'm using rkhunter but want a 2nd opinion |
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| 17:58.12 | jaakkos | are you running an e-mail, file server or similar? |
| 17:58.21 | JordiGH | The last image here says we have no permission to reproduce it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655475#10 |
| 17:58.28 | ryn | jaakkos: pretty much standard LAMP |
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| 17:58.43 | JordiGH | DMCA takedown to debian.org??? |
| 17:59.03 | tharkun | daemonkeeper: there is a bash script that calls fsck but the part of the battery checking is comented out. I just can't recall the name |
| 17:59.04 | ksx4system | JordiGH: wtf? |
| 17:59.11 | [1]knob | I ran the apt-get install vsftpd, and she ran fine, yet gave me two lines at the end... one of them is::: insserv: warning: script 'K01nova-agent' missing LSB tags and overrides |
| 17:59.14 | JordiGH | ksx4system: Non-free bug report! |
| 17:59.19 | [1]knob | any thoughts? |
| 17:59.19 | JordiGH | bugreport-dfsg |
| 17:59.37 | jaakkos | ryn: antivirus is probably not the way to protect that. |
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| 18:00.13 | jaakkos | imo people run AV on linux mostly for Windows users. |
| 18:00.32 | themill | JordiGH: perhaps you'd like to consider how this is relevant to #debian at all |
| 18:00.44 | ksx4system | JordiGH: could you please explain what do you mean in more understandable way? |
| 18:00.51 | Sefid_par | !proxy |
| 18:00.52 | dpkg | A proxy server is a system/application acting as an intermediary for resource requests from clients. See <http_proxy>, <ftp_proxy>, /etc/apt/apt.conf (man 5 apt.conf), <environment>. See also <apt-proxy>, <imapproxy>, <squid>. |
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| 18:01.05 | Sefid_par | dpkg tell me about proxy |
| 18:02.22 | ch1ch4rr1t0 | there is anyway to xchat save the server and the channels ou are in? |
| 18:02.44 | ksx4system | ch1ch4rr1t0: go to #xchat and ask |
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| 18:02.54 | ksx4system | to do this: /join #xchat |
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| 18:05.48 | cubuanic | does debian.testing have package with program to send synthetic x events? preffered - lightweight, command-line tool |
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| 18:07.00 | technologov | hi, is the Toshiba 56k modem supported by Debian ? |
| 18:07.21 | thisthat | we require the make and model to give you an answer |
| 18:07.52 | technologov | I have no idea (it is not listen in "lspci") |
| 18:08.04 | technologov | how to find out ? |
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| 18:08.19 | nkuttler | technologov: is it a pci modem? |
| 18:08.33 | technologov | it is a built-in modem into laptop... no idea. |
| 18:08.38 | technologov | if PCI or not |
| 18:08.47 | nkuttler | try lsusb or google your model |
| 18:09.16 | technologov | tried.. lsusb doesn't shows it. |
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| 18:09.31 | technologov | which command can help to at least detect it ? |
| 18:09.56 | acu_ | babilen, somiaj tharkun: sorry - I did on wheezy apt-get update then apt-get upgrade - my question was whether I need to to a dist-upgrade on wheezy |
| 18:10.06 | nkuttler | technologov: really.. google for specs |
| 18:10.10 | sidewalk | so i installed the nvidia driver and now everything on my screen is really really big, how do i solve this? :-) |
| 18:10.27 | acu_ | changer resolution ? |
| 18:10.37 | somiaj | acu_: read the man page and see if you can undertand the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 18:10.48 | somiaj | acu_: on testing you will probabaly need to use both in different situations |
| 18:11.07 | sidewalk | it seems that X is using the resolution 1920x1200 but gnome is using 800x600 or something |
| 18:11.13 | somiaj | sidewalk: what do you mean big, is it a resolution or a dpi setting? |
| 18:11.51 | sidewalk | so all fonts and windows are huge |
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| 18:11.58 | acu_ | Ok that was my question somiaj - strangely enough on all other testings (for squeeze etch etc) I needed only apt-get upgrade, I used apt-get dist-upgrade only when I wanted to go from lenny to squeeze for example - but thanks somiaj |
| 18:12.01 | OsteHovel | technologov: try lshw |
| 18:12.13 | OsteHovel | That shoud list it as unhandled |
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| 18:12.26 | somiaj | acu_: once you read what the differences are you will see why you'll need both in testing but only upgrade in stable |
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| 18:13.28 | OsteHovel | Do you think i will get more performance when i switch from NFSv3 to v4? |
| 18:13.30 | sidewalk | somiaj: its like im using 800x600 resolution in gnome, but i acctually seem to have 1920x1200 in X |
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| 18:14.05 | sidewalk | is there a "proper" way to install the nvidia drivers? |
| 18:14.12 | valdyn | !nvidia |
| 18:14.12 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:15.29 | sidewalk | i followed that guide |
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| 18:16.14 | acu_ | yes - just read the manual on apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade - it seem that dist-upgrade is more inteligent (smart) |
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| 18:16.35 | valdyn | acu_: im sure the manpage does not say that |
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| 18:19.05 | technologov_ | OsteHovel, Thanks. Nope - modem not found. Result here: http://pastebin.com/q1xKBV4t |
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| 18:20.08 | [1]knob | I'm looking for a link/man page... would like to add two users for the ftp service... yet don't know how |
| 18:20.54 | [1]knob | I've found a couple of things, yet they don't seem to be geared towards Debian |
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| 18:21.32 | gnarface | [1]knob: you need to figure out which ftp service you're using and consult its documentation diretly |
| 18:21.38 | gnarface | i mean directly |
| 18:21.48 | cubuanic | does debian/testing have package with program to send synthetic x events? preffered - lightweight, command-line tool |
| 18:21.52 | OsteHovel | technologov: you sure it got a modem? And its enabled in bios? (You know that 56k modems are OLD?) |
| 18:21.54 | [1]knob | ok... so I installed vsftpd... should check with that one... ok |
| 18:22.00 | [1]knob | thanks gnarface |
| 18:22.30 | technologov | OsteHovel, BIOS doesn't have an option to enable/disable it. Just checked. (I need it for Fax) |
| 18:22.41 | gnarface | [1]knob: there is often a man page but its important when you're unfamiliar with a package you've installed to first read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/[package name] |
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| 18:24.37 | nicoparker | hi! I have a question : I configured my wifi during netinstall and it seems that the system calls a dhcp client upon reboot which causes trouble to wicd (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616442). Is there a way to check that wicd is the only one working with the network interfaces? |
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| 18:25.26 | OsteHovel | Nicoparker: one application that created havoc for me one time was NetworkManager also called nm |
| 18:25.39 | OsteHovel | technologov: and it works fine under windows? |
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| 18:26.27 | technologov | OsteHovel, y, Windows detects it. |
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| 18:26.47 | nicoparker | OsteHovel: I was wondering if I should install nm, but when I saw the dependancies... |
| 18:27.03 | tharkun | Is ext4 the default filesystem in Testing? |
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| 18:27.23 | OsteHovel | I hate nm, but thats just my opinion |
| 18:27.25 | technologov_ | in Windows it shows as "HDAUDIO\FUNC_02&VEN_11C1&DEV_1040&SUBSYS_11790001 |
| 18:27.25 | technologov_ | " |
| 18:27.26 | sidewalk | nobody knows how i change the size of my resolution in gnome, with nvidia drivers? |
| 18:27.28 | nicoparker | OsteHovel: so finally you say that even with nm there are similar troubles... |
| 18:27.40 | nicoparker | tharkun: yep |
| 18:27.52 | technologov_ | OsteHovel looks like the modem is part of Sound card ? |
| 18:28.00 | OsteHovel | Nah, i just said i dont like nm becouse i have had problems with interfering with my wlan |
| 18:28.01 | tharkun | nicoparker: thanks |
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| 18:28.28 | nicoparker | OsteHovel: but is there a way to let only wicd manage network interfaces? |
| 18:28.35 | OsteHovel | technologov: hmm go to the place you see all the devices |
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| 18:31.26 | technologov | it shows as "TOSHIBA Software Modem" in Windows Device Manager |
| 18:31.49 | technologov | and according to PCI ID, it looks like this is part of the sound chip... |
| 18:31.54 | valdyn | technologov: software modems are plain sound devices, like a sound card |
| 18:32.25 | valdyn | technologov: makes no difference on which chip it is really |
| 18:32.28 | technologov | valdyn, is there any way to at least "list" them ? like lspci ? |
| 18:32.30 | zykotick9 | sidewalk: if you are using the propritary nvidia driver, use "nvidia-settings" |
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| 18:33.28 | valdyn | technologov: lspci lists the hw device , sure |
| 18:33.43 | technologov | valdyn, but it doesn't show the modem |
| 18:33.57 | nicoparker | so re-phrasing my question : is there a simple way in debian to have lan & wlan working with dhcp? |
| 18:33.59 | technologov | is there any way to _detect_ the modem in Linux ? |
| 18:33.59 | valdyn | technologov: why does that matter? |
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| 18:34.54 | valdyn | technologov: you just need to care if it is and which it is in /proc/asound/devices |
| 18:34.59 | nkuttler | haha. still not googled the specs? for all we know it could be disabled in the bios or through magic |
| 18:35.20 | sidewalk | how do i change the dpi? |
| 18:35.31 | valdyn | sidewalk: in gnome? |
| 18:35.41 | sidewalk | yes |
| 18:35.42 | technologov | valdyn, because listing combo devices separately makes life easier... Just like I wanna see the "HP all-in-one" under both "scanner" and "printer" devices. |
| 18:36.08 | valdyn | sidewalk: gnome-appearance-properties, go to fonts, select advanced or similar |
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| 18:36.27 | sidewalk | then maybe its not dpi, my whole resolution is wrong in gnome |
| 18:36.38 | sidewalk | the X resolution is 1920x1200 but the gnome resolution is wrong |
| 18:36.40 | valdyn | sidewalk: so try xrandr |
| 18:36.54 | valdyn | sidewalk: gnome has no "own" resolution, it runs on X |
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| 18:37.10 | sidewalk | valdyn: okey, so how do i change it? |
| 18:37.16 | valdyn | sidewalk: with xrandr |
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| 18:38.00 | sidewalk | valdyn: hmps |
| 18:38.08 | sidewalk | $ xrandr |
| 18:38.08 | sidewalk | xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 18:38.29 | sidewalk | for 1920 it says: 1920x1200 50.0 175.0* |
| 18:38.39 | nicoparker | okay. Re-phrasing again : how to disable any auto config of the network interface by the system to let wicd take care of it? |
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| 18:39.02 | valdyn | sidewalk: if you dont believe that its really 1920x1200, make a screenshot and show us |
| 18:39.09 | zykotick9 | nicoparker: check /etc/network/interfaces - remove any settings for the device(s) there |
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| 18:39.48 | nicoparker | zykotick9: well I tried this, but wicd always fails to get the DNS servers (IP & gateway & routes are ok) |
| 18:40.15 | sidewalk | vaÃldyn: where do i upload the pic? :D |
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| 18:40.30 | valdyn | !paste |
| 18:40.30 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
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| 18:41.32 | sidewalk | valdyn: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-6N3WN97f.png |
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| 18:41.45 | Yoplitein | I accidentally deleted /usr/share/X11 |
| 18:41.51 | tharkun | Moving from ext3 to ext4 can exhibit problems, which are the most common? |
| 18:41.55 | zykotick9 | nicoparker: i haven't used wicd exensively, but "perhaps" you could add DNS to /etc/resolv.conf? (i know n-m overrights that file, not sure about wicd) |
| 18:41.56 | nicoparker | Yoplitein: lol |
| 18:42.08 | Yoplitein | nicoparker: I know, right? |
| 18:42.09 | valdyn | sidewalk: it is 1920x1200 |
| 18:42.22 | sidewalk | valdyn: then what do i need to change? |
| 18:42.25 | Yoplitein | so, now when I start X, the keyboard doesn't work |
| 18:42.26 | valdyn | sidewalk: change your dpi as I told you |
| 18:42.33 | valdyn | sidewalk: or the font size |
| 18:42.36 | sidewalk | okey, with xrandr? |
| 18:42.39 | Yoplitein | managed to get the mouse working by reinstalling the associated packages |
| 18:42.41 | valdyn | sidewalk: the dpi should obviously be what it really is |
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| 18:42.49 | valdyn | sidewalk: gnome-appearance-properties |
| 18:43.04 | nicoparker | zykotick9: using static DNS servers is configurable in the wicd interface (and works), but I'd like to use dynamic configuration. It seems to me so basic... :( |
| 18:43.27 | zykotick9 | nicoparker: sorry, i have no idea. Good luck. |
| 18:43.28 | nicoparker | Yoplitein: maybe you should de-install X11 and re-install it... |
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| 18:43.33 | anddam | hello |
| 18:44.02 | nicoparker | zykotick9: ok thanx for your help |
| 18:44.22 | sidewalk | valdyn: i currently have 322 dpi, what do you recommend? |
| 18:45.06 | valdyn | sidewalk: ideally, the correct value |
| 18:45.38 | sidewalk | valdyn: 100? |
| 18:45.49 | valdyn | sidewalk: do you understand what dpi means? |
| 18:46.12 | sidewalk | solved, it, thanks |
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| 18:46.33 | sidewalk | valdyn: dots per inch |
| 18:46.58 | sidewalk | valdyn: but im not quite sure how it works |
| 18:47.20 | valdyn | sidewalk: 10 inch with 1000 pixel means 100dpi |
| 18:47.40 | valdyn | sidewalk: i know that your have 1200 pixel top to bottom, but the height of your display i cant know |
| 18:47.59 | valdyn | sidewalk: take a ruler and see for yourself |
| 18:48.09 | anddam | is there an X interface to APT in squeeze? |
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| 18:48.40 | zykotick9 | anddam: synaptic |
| 18:48.41 | sidewalk | valdyn: okey, thanks |
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| 18:48.54 | anddam | sidewalk: or you can read your monitor's specs |
| 18:49.24 | anddam | zykotick9: thanks |
| 18:49.36 | valdyn | sidewalk: on the other hand, windows fonts might be designed to look best at 96 dpi, even if thats a wrong value |
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| 18:50.55 | valdyn | ( windows fonts meaning arial and the old fonts, I think the newer windows versions might properly support "real" dpi setting |
| 18:51.33 | jandro | does anyone know of a good alternative to torrentflux-b4rt with multi-user support and is web-based? cheers |
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| 18:51.51 | valdyn | jandro: rtorrent + wtorrent |
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| 18:53.18 | jandro | valdyn: thanks, i'll look into it |
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| 18:53.45 | valdyn | jandro: im seeing theres quite a few web frontends to rtorrent. I cant say which one is decent beyond what I used myself (wtorrent) |
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| 18:55.58 | jandro | valdyn: rutorrent seems to have a more active development |
| 18:56.14 | Yoplitein | okay, I have a keyboard again, but pressing enter zooms in? |
| 18:57.18 | Yoplitein | pressing any key does this, actually |
| 18:57.57 | jandro | valdyn: using rtorrent, do you know if each of the users run an instance of the program or is it possible to run rtorrent as a daemon for all of them? |
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| 19:25.28 | spersaud | what is the preffereed method for adding the latest version of firefox ?? |
| 19:25.58 | Yoplitein | installing it from Mozilla's site |
| 19:26.53 | spersaud | Yoplitein: how ?? |
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| 19:27.24 | Yoplitein | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html |
| 19:27.45 | Yoplitein | download the tar, extract it to /opt |
| 19:28.14 | OsteHovel^PC | technologov: DId you find it? |
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| 19:28.56 | valdyn | !mdn |
| 19:28.56 | dpkg | Backports of the Iceweasel web browser and Icedove mail client are not available from <debian backports>. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for newer Iceweasel and Icedove for squeeze, wheezy and sid. Work continues to get the packages into the official archive without breaking too many other applications using XUL. Also ask me about <transition>, <squeeze-backports>, <testing>. |
| 19:28.58 | valdyn | spersaud: ^^ |
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| 19:32.05 | spersaud | valdyn: icedove 3.1 is the latest version ? |
| 19:32.15 | valdyn | spersaud: nope |
| 19:32.36 | spersaud | valdyn: icedove release ? |
| 19:32.38 | valdyn | spersaud: uh, actually, it might be, i dont know |
| 19:32.50 | dvs | ,versions icedove |
| 19:32.51 | judd | Package: icedove on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.0.24-0lenny1; lenny-security: 2.0.0.24-0lenny1; squeeze: 3.0.11-1+squeeze5; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.0.11-1+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 3.0.11-1+squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 3.1.16-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.1.16-1; sid: 8.0-2 |
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| 19:36.00 | bitcycle | Hey all. Could someone advise the easiest way to disable "sudo shutdown" for a specific user? |
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| 19:36.41 | daemonkeeper | bitcycle: The actual question is, why is every user on your system allowed to do "sudo shutdown" in the first place. |
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| 19:37.17 | bitcycle | daemonkeeper: well. the users have sudo access, and root has permissions to shutdown a box. Is that non-standard? |
| 19:37.37 | daemonkeeper | bitcycle: Are you sure you're using Debian? That sounds like the Ubuntu default behaviour. |
| 19:37.48 | daemonkeeper | On Debian this is /not/ standard. |
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| 19:38.39 | spersaud | valdyn: iceweasel 3.6 ?? |
| 19:39.39 | valdyn | spersaud: 9 |
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| 19:40.02 | OsteHovel^PC | On debian sudo aint startard at all |
| 19:40.11 | daemonkeeper | My point. |
| 19:40.19 | daemonkeeper | sudo is not even installed by default. |
| 19:40.20 | OsteHovel^PC | only su |
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| 19:40.33 | OsteHovel^PC | *i meant installed but ye you confirmed it daemonkeeper |
| 19:40.35 | spoljo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.37 | spoljo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:41.02 | daemonkeeper | And even if it were installed, it does not give anyone any privileges by default. |
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| 19:41.27 | OsteHovel^PC | true, you need to add the users into the sudoers group as i always forget to do |
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| 19:42.15 | OsteHovel^PC | Someone know how to mount a nfs4 as root device i get the nfsv3 via pxe boot but not v4 |
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| 19:42.46 | daemonkeeper | interprets the fact bitcycle left without any further comment he hit the bull's eye |
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| 19:43.56 | yeshellothere | tharkun: are you around? |
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| 19:44.42 | yeshellothere | tharkun: i am having the same problem as you had with Class::MOP, i found your error through google, did you ever fix it? |
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| 19:47.08 | tharkun | yeshellothere: how is an initscript in anyway related to Class::MOP ? |
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| 19:49.38 | yeshellothere | tharkun: it isn't? |
| 19:49.47 | yeshellothere | tharkun: i've found that the problem is because i upgraded Package::Stash |
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| 19:51.12 | yeshellothere | so i'm trying to mitigate that now because i need Class::Load but i hate using a local 'lib/' |
| 19:51.54 | OsteHovel^PC | Oww, ive got this message now: "[ 18.212014] kernel BUG at /build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-39-i386-7HPxPD/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_i386_none/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_irq.c:465!" |
| 19:51.55 | OsteHovel^PC | and alot more |
| 19:52.39 | OsteHovel^PC | but i only got it one time, shoud i report it somewhere? |
| 19:52.52 | OsteHovel^PC | !pastebin |
| 19:52.52 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>. |
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| 19:53.47 | OsteHovel^PC | Here is the entire one: http://paste.debian.net/151907/ |
| 19:54.15 | Rusher20x | hello |
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| 19:54.45 | OsteHovel^PC | Hey Rusher20x ;) |
| 19:54.47 | OsteHovel^PC | How did it go? |
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| 19:54.56 | Rusher20x | i just finish installing |
| 19:55.08 | Rusher20x | didnt detect my serial mouse |
| 19:55.19 | OsteHovel^PC | nah you probably need to fix it manualy |
| 19:55.50 | Rusher20x | so how should i fix it? |
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| 19:56.21 | Harzilein | will DEP-5 allow consumer applications to see why a certain package is in contrib? |
| 19:57.26 | daemonkeeper | DEP-5 is only a way to represent licenses in a semistructured manner |
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| 19:57.39 | OsteHovel^PC | Rusher20x: aptitude install inputattach |
| 19:57.49 | OsteHovel^PC | Rusher20x: and inputattach --microsoft /dev/ttyS0 |
| 19:58.05 | Rusher20x | on terminal? |
| 19:58.23 | OsteHovel^PC | ye |
| 19:58.29 | OsteHovel^PC | and see if it works in X |
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| 19:58.39 | OsteHovel^PC | it isent premanent the program needs to be running for it to work |
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| 20:01.39 | Rusher20x | it says could not open lock file |
| 20:01.53 | Rusher20x | do i have to login as root? |
| 20:02.04 | gh0strider | hello everyone, i am really interested in possibly adding debian linux to a phone and from the research that i have been doing it seems that debian linux seems to work well with the nokia n900 and i was wondering if anyone here has added debian to a phone either the n900 or another phone and if they had any pointers or if anyone could provide me with a link on how to add linux to a phone? |
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| 20:02.23 | Rusher20x | try xda |
| 20:02.51 | Rusher20x | gh0strider try xda dev.. i |
| 20:03.14 | gh0strider | Rusher20x: xda dev, never heard of it...? |
| 20:03.16 | babilen | Rusher20x: You have to be root, yes. You can do that with "su -" (give your root password), or by installing sudo and running "adduser YOURUSER sudo". That enables you to run "sudo apt-get ..." or "sudo aptitude ..." after a relogin. |
| 20:03.35 | gh0strider | ahh xda-devlopers.com ? |
| 20:03.57 | Rusher20x | ya |
| 20:04.45 | babilen | gh0strider: That was well covered in the media some time ago, but IIRC it was mostly a chroot-like installation. Googling for "debian n900" yields a number of good results and http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian look particularly relevant |
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| 20:05.34 | gh0strider | babilen: thanks for the link and the advice i will check it out... |
| 20:05.37 | babilen | gh0strider: I would, however, recommend to ask in #maemo as well. |
| 20:05.51 | gh0strider | okay thanks |
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| 20:07.09 | OsteHovel | It must be this day today... |
| 20:07.25 | OsteHovel | First my linux pc crashes, then now my windows pc got a bluescreen |
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| 20:09.02 | Rusher20x | hey ostehovel |
| 20:09.07 | Rusher20x | didnt work |
| 20:09.08 | OsteHovel^PCB | hey |
| 20:09.10 | OsteHovel^PCB | ok |
| 20:09.17 | OsteHovel^PCB | try searching on the google then Rusher20x |
| 20:09.28 | Rusher20x | okay |
| 20:09.52 | mhrDrpc | hello all |
| 20:10.15 | mhrDrpc | how update the last version of ice weasel? |
| 20:10.31 | zykotick9 | !mdn |
| 20:10.31 | dpkg | Backports of the Iceweasel web browser and Icedove mail client are not available from <debian backports>. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for newer Iceweasel and Icedove for squeeze, wheezy and sid. Work continues to get the packages into the official archive without breaking too many other applications using XUL. Also ask me about <transition>, <squeeze-backports>, <testing>. |
| 20:11.22 | babilen | Rusher20x: What doesn't work? Is it eating all your food, sleeping on the couch and playing with your cat? Are you root or do you use sudo as I mentioned before or are you speaking about you referring to your serial mouse? |
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| 20:12.13 | boudiccas | mhrDrpc; care to explain what you meant in your last comment please? |
| 20:12.26 | Rusher20x | already done su and login as root |
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| 20:12.52 | Rusher20x | but it say couldnt find package input |
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| 20:13.39 | babilen | Rusher20x: The package is called "inputattach" not "input" |
| 20:14.27 | Rusher20x | ya but it says command not found |
| 20:14.46 | babilen | Rusher20x: Show me the exact commands + output on http://paste.debian.net please |
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| 20:15.13 | diverdude | I am trying to enable mod-rewrite like this: a2enmod rewrite and I get this error: ERROR: Module rewrite not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load is a real file, not touching it. What am I doing wrong? |
| 20:16.12 | simonlnu | it's supposed to be a symlink |
| 20:16.26 | simonlnu | ...to the real file in mods-available/ |
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| 20:17.35 | diverdude | simonlnu, so where is the symlink supposed to be and where is the real file supposed to be? |
| 20:17.48 | Rusher20x | guys |
| 20:17.59 | Rusher20x | can i use screen capture in debian? |
| 20:18.18 | Rusher20x | it should be easier for me to show you |
| 20:18.20 | Rusher20x | >.< |
| 20:18.32 | babilen | Rusher20x: Is your serial mouse working now? And yes, there are plenty of screencast related utilities in Debian. I can't recommend one though. |
| 20:18.51 | Rusher20x | still not working |
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| 20:19.00 | babilen | Rusher20x: Just copy what you have in your console and paste it to http://paste.debian.net -- Why is that hard? |
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| 20:19.42 | Kizano_werk | Not sure if this is #debian or ##php, but - I'm missing the php-config script for my Debian Squeeze box. |
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| 20:19.49 | Rusher20x | its on my old pc and it doesnt have an internet connection |
| 20:19.56 | Kizano_werk | I have it installed (apt-get install php-config <- already up to date), but I can't find the script... |
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| 20:20.01 | simonlnu | diverdude: uh, you should have enough clue there with what i said... but -available/ has the real file, and -enabled/ the symlink |
| 20:20.37 | babilen | Rusher20x: Ok -- Which command exactly gives you the "command not found" error? Did you manage to install the inputattach package yet? |
| 20:21.48 | Rusher20x | this one |
| 20:21.50 | Rusher20x | inputattach --microsoft /dev/ttyS0 |
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| 20:22.02 | diverdude | can somebody do me a favor and pastebin the content of the file /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.conf ? |
| 20:22.05 | babilen | Rusher20x: Ok, did you install the inputattach package yet? |
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| 20:23.08 | Rusher20x | ya i have done aptitude install inputattach |
| 20:23.19 | babilen | Rusher20x: And did it install the package? |
| 20:23.40 | Rusher20x | nope |
| 20:23.44 | Rusher20x | it says |
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| 20:23.59 | Rusher20x | couldnt find package input |
| 20:24.19 | Kizano_werk | w000 |
| 20:24.25 | Rusher20x | however the following package contain input in their name |
| 20:24.26 | Kizano_werk | apt-get install php5-dev; <- did it <: |
| 20:25.26 | Rusher20x | xserver-xorg.input.evdev |
| 20:25.34 | babilen | The package is called "inputattach" and not "input" -- But I guess that you actually meant that, but where too lazy to type it out. This is most likely due to the fact that you don't have a working internet connection on that box and therefore didn't configure any online repositories. Can you get that box online? Which Debian CDs/DVDs/BDs have you downloaded? |
| 20:26.05 | Rusher20x | the i386 |
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| 20:26.32 | Rusher20x | cd |
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| 20:26.56 | babilen | Rusher20x: Which CD(s) exactly? CD1? CD1-? -- Can you get that box online? |
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| 20:27.05 | Rusher20x | cd 1 |
| 20:27.28 | Rusher20x | nope this old pc doesnt have a lan port |
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| 20:29.07 | babilen | Rusher20x: Ok -- Not all packages are on CD1 and it would make sense to download a larger CD/DVD set if you want to use that box offline. inputattach in particular is on BD1, CD17 and DVD3 -- You need to download additional images and add them with "apt-cdrom" (man apt-cdrom) to "activate" them |
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| 20:29.23 | babilen | Rusher20x: (cf. http://cdimage-search.debian.org/?search_area=release&type=simple&query=inputattach&Search=Search&.cgifields=search_area&.cgifields=type) |
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| 20:30.37 | Rusher20x | i see |
| 20:30.41 | Rusher20x | no wonder |
| 20:30.45 | babilen | Rusher20x: And frankly: I would recommend to just buy an ethernet card and be done with it. |
| 20:31.02 | Rusher20x | so which one should i download?? |
| 20:31.19 | Rusher20x | well its hard to find the old card |
| 20:31.23 | babilen | Rusher20x: Does that box have a CD drive? What about DVD? BD? |
| 20:31.40 | Rusher20x | it have a cd drive |
| 20:31.53 | babilen | Rusher20x: Well, in that case you don't have much of a choice, do you? |
| 20:32.01 | Rusher20x | yes |
| 20:32.06 | babilen | :-þ |
| 20:32.36 | babilen | Rusher20x: You probably want to download the complete set eventually, but for inputattach you want CD17 as mentioned earlier |
| 20:32.41 | Rusher20x | its an old pc with 192mb of ram and k62 400mhz processor with 3gb hdd |
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| 20:33.13 | Rusher20x | so should i download cd 17? |
| 20:33.24 | e-mode | Hi all! I have a Debian testing with gnome 3, updated system yesterday and today the automount of USB pen doesn't work anymore. anyone else has this issue? |
| 20:33.51 | diverdude | will /etc/init.d/apache2 restart also do /etc/init.d/apache2 reload ? |
| 20:34.02 | babilen | Rusher20x: Sweet :) -- I had a box like that many years ago. What do you plan to use it for? Please also realise that modern desktop environments will probably not run fast on that hardware. I would therefore recommend to run a light window manager like fluxbox/awesomewm (if at all) |
| 20:34.08 | lstarnes | diverdude: apache always reloads its configuration when it starts |
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| 20:35.30 | Rusher20x | just for listening mp3/web browsing/ some document typing also watch some videos |
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| 20:52.49 | engla | is it possible to customize debian netinst isos? I'd like to upgrade the kernel version |
| 20:52.51 | mwcampbell1 | I have an initramfs question: Is it possible to add an initramfs hook that specifies some fallback behavior if the rootfs can't be mounted, e.g. a filesystem with the specified UUID wasn't found? |
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| 20:54.35 | engla | maybe I can just use the daily sid netinst iso |
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| 20:54.44 | engla | what's the chance of success for that one? |
| 20:54.53 | engla | > 0 ? |
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| 20:57.13 | boudiccas | engla; pretty poor |
| 20:57.37 | babilen | engla: Upgrade it to what? There are installer images with the current kernel in backports (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
| 20:57.58 | engla | linux 3.2 as soon as it is available |
| 20:58.00 | engla | thanks for the pointer |
| 20:58.42 | babilen | !tell engla -about custom cd |
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| 21:02.02 | engla | thanks again |
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| 21:12.41 | anddam | got an error while dist-upgrading squeeze->wheezy, this is the complete pastebin after fetching https://gist.github.com/1596784 |
| 21:12.52 | anddam | how can I check what the error is |
| 21:12.59 | anddam | is?* |
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| 21:34.04 | anddam | I expected things to break _after_ the update to testing, not meanwhile |
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| 21:36.32 | somiaj | anddam: the last line says the errors occured int he package libwmf, if you search for that you can find other messages about that package. |
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| 21:37.37 | somiaj | lines 693-705 are the error messages regarding that package, looks like a bad postrm script, you can also check teh bts |
| 21:38.08 | anddam | somiaj: I'm reading, seems I'm missing some perl stuff |
| 21:38.21 | anddam | how would I solve this? |
| 21:38.45 | anddam | I mean force re-install libwmf0 and restart dist-upgrade |
| 21:38.54 | somiaj | I would first check the bts for that package |
| 21:39.00 | somiaj | see if others have the error |
| 21:39.07 | anddam | will do |
| 21:39.08 | somiaj | but yea you can try to install the newest version of that package |
| 21:39.20 | somiaj | and try to locate the error and then continue your dist-upgrade once it is done |
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| 21:41.21 | acu | I installed wheezy - also apache webserver, however if I type localhost as url - nothing comes - if I do /etc/init.d/apache2 start it tells me that the httpd is started - what is wrong in here ? |
| 21:41.28 | anddam | somiaj: could be http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=405012 |
| 21:41.53 | somiaj | acu: check the bts, see if this is a know bug, and welcoem to testing. (: |
| 21:41.54 | anddam | but from what I read I am installing 0.2-7, not upgrading from it |
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| 21:42.21 | diogo_79 | hi |
| 21:42.26 | anddam | actually I just realized I should have checked backports rather than upgrade to testing |
| 21:42.35 | diogo_79 | cannot connect to wireless network |
| 21:42.51 | anddam | somiaj: lol I didn't realize that ticket is from 2006 |
| 21:42.54 | acu | somiaj: where can I check the bts |
| 21:43.00 | somiaj | acu: bugs.debian.org/package-name |
| 21:43.13 | diogo_79 | i have install b43 firmware but i cannot manage to connect to wireless network |
| 21:43.28 | diogo_79 | no error is display |
| 21:43.32 | somiaj | anddam: yea, but it is from experimental too... |
| 21:43.39 | diogo_79 | the wireless configuration is ok |
| 21:43.50 | diogo_79 | but no connection |
| 21:43.58 | somiaj | diogo_79: what did you do after you installed teh firmware, did you reload the wireless module, and does ifconfig -a show the device? |
| 21:43.59 | diogo_79 | don't know why |
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| 21:44.21 | diogo_79 | i have execute the modprobe b43 |
| 21:44.25 | diogo_79 | and reboot the system |
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| 21:44.51 | diogo_79 | the ifconfig -a shows the wireless card |
| 21:44.57 | somiaj | diogo_79: well if you rebooted teh system that woudl work (you would have to remove the modula (rmmod) before lowing it |
| 21:45.10 | somiaj | diogo_79: how about 'ifconfig wlan0 up && iwlist wlan0 scan' |
| 21:45.18 | somiaj | does it scan for wirless networks just fine? |
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| 21:45.28 | somiaj | do you have wpasupplicant installed to connect to wpa networks? |
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| 21:46.00 | diogo_79 | the iwlist wlan0 scan gives me no results |
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| 21:46.10 | somiaj | and it gives you no errors? |
| 21:46.43 | diogo_79 | no |
| 21:46.56 | diogo_79 | i dont have the wpasupplicant install |
| 21:47.00 | somiaj | well seems like your system isn't seeing any wireless networks to connect to |
| 21:47.14 | somiaj | the iwlist wlan0 scan (provided wlan0 is what your computer calls your wilress card) isnt' |
| 21:47.21 | somiaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.41 | diogo_79 | how can i fix |
| 21:47.42 | somiaj | there could be a hardware rfkill switch, but usually iwlist complains if there is an rfkill going on |
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| 21:48.18 | somiaj | diogo_79: I don't know, it could be because you are just in a place that you are not receving any wireless signlas form an AP, I can't just guess why you aren't reciving any scans. Check dmesg, check your logs, try to find a useful error |
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| 21:49.09 | diogo_79 | this is showing in the messages log ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
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| 21:54.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey |
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| 21:55.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | where are the proper spots to put certs for apache2? i am readng this howto for redhat and its saying they go in /etc/httpd/conf.. |
| 21:55.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | but it dosn't exsist. I got a /etc/apache2/conf.d? |
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| 21:56.21 | daemonkeeper | That's up to you. Any location in /etc is ok, the default configuration expects them in /etc/apache2 |
| 21:56.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | k |
| 21:56.30 | daemonkeeper | (almost any) |
| 21:56.36 | microcluster | i'd like to know the difference between mint 12 and debian 6,pleaase |
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| 21:56.57 | daemonkeeper | microcluster: Perhaps you should ask Mint people. They're downstream. |
| 21:57.30 | microcluster | daemonkeeper, what do you think? |
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| 21:59.29 | daemonkeeper | microcluster: I think nobody here ever used Mint as Debian seems comfortable enough. For Mint people apparently it isn't, so they need to know what they modified for what reason. |
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| 22:00.36 | microcluster | daemonkeeper, thanks,and have you suggestion for laptop battery duration? |
| 22:00.53 | daemonkeeper | Except of using wired power? |
| 22:01.16 | microcluster | daemonkeeper, i'm installed laptop-mode-tools |
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| 22:02.08 | microcluster | daemonkeeper, what's wired power? |
| 22:04.16 | microcluster | daemonkeeper, only for battery |
| 22:04.34 | jhutchins_wk | Eryn_1983_FL: try /etc/ssl/certs |
| 22:05.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | k |
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| 22:07.07 | jhutchins_wk | Eryn_1983_FL: Actually, mine are in /etc/apache2/ssl |
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| 22:07.39 | jhutchins_wk | As long as the path in the host definition and the actual location of the file match. |
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| 22:25.21 | ac_slater | Anyone know a way to append a file to a cpio.gz without extracting the cpio out fo the gz first? |
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| 22:31.07 | diverdude | i need to update ruby gems, so i do sudo gem install rubygems-update, but this only gives me version 1.3.7 and echoe requires RubyGems version >= 1.8.4. How do i update them properly in the system? |
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| 22:40.07 | entmoot | if I have to un-install a service through webmin... and i have to say [Y/N] after... what do I put at then end of the cmd to put in the Y or N ?? |
| 22:40.10 | entmoot | thnx |
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| 22:42.24 | entmoot | e.g. apt-get remove --purge openssh-client openssh-server and answer that with a Yes |
| 22:42.33 | zykotick9 | !webmin |
| 22:42.33 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 22:43.07 | entmoot | kewl.. but not really what I asked |
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| 22:46.01 | djp_ | is this the correct channel for install issues with debian on a freerunner? |
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| 22:51.16 | microcluster | some adjustment for laptop battery? |
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| 22:54.44 | AzMoo | Hi guys, how come during installation I can't create a user called "admin", but after installation there isn't an admin user or group anywhere? |
| 22:55.37 | microcluster | what about gnome shell on debian? |
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| 22:55.54 | ratatata | nu |
| 22:57.32 | gabesubdo | AzMoo: apparently this is why: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=450954. second google result for "debian installer admin user" |
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| 23:01.15 | anddam | somiaj: still there? |
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| 23:07.37 | Ronis_BR | hi all, I know that the only missing part of gnome 3.2 in debian testing is gnome-shell. Does it have a schedule or something to become testing? I don't know debian policy |
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| 23:13.03 | jordanm | !why is gnome-shell not in testing |
| 23:13.04 | dpkg | gnome-shell is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=gnome-shell |
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| 23:14.26 | jordanm | Ronis_BR: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652482 <- when this gets resolved |
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| 23:16.22 | Ronis_BR | jordanm: thanks! |
| 23:16.32 | sisif | Hello guys. I have some issues with pulseaudio - eating a bit too much CPU, especially when using my bluetooth headphones. Also, since I installed it, all movies appear choppy / laggy. Is there anything I can do about this ? |
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| 23:21.35 | delvalle26 | !why is aircrack-ng not in unstable |
| 23:21.35 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, delvalle26 |
| 23:22.46 | babilen | !tell delvalle26 -about aircrack-ng |
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| 23:22.54 | Ronis_BR | jordanm: hum, in debian all archs must have the same package versions? |
| 23:23.20 | themill | Ronis_BR: sort of |
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| 23:26.37 | jordanm | Ronis_BR: there is another RC bug mentioned in the last part of that bug report |
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| 23:32.06 | anddam | how can I reconfigure a package? I choose to keep old lxde-common configuration package but I'd like to install the new one instead |
| 23:33.17 | daemonkeeper | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 23:33.41 | anddam | daemonkeeper: I just run it but it didn't ask about the configuration file |
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| 23:34.16 | anddam | daemonkeeper: I ran uprade and choose N (keep current file) at prompt but I really meant Y (use maintainer's) |
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| 23:35.03 | themill | anddam: easiest way is to delete the config file then /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 23:37.27 | anddam | themill: thanks |
| 23:37.51 | AzMoo | gabesubdo: I searched "debian admin user" :p Cheers for the link. |
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| 23:38.22 | gabesubdo | heh, np. I seem to have a way with google keywords sometimes. |
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| 23:39.01 | Ronis_BR | jordanm themill: thanks! |
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| 23:40.51 | anddam | themill: this is output for sudo aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall lxde-common https://gist.github.com/1597492 |
| 23:41.04 | anddam | why is aptitute trying to uninstall all that stuff? was that pending? |
| 23:42.00 | themill | looks like it. what does "aptitude search ~g" say? |
| 23:42.09 | anddam | ok this something magical, I said "no", re-run the same line and this time it didn't ask for confirmation, and it doesn't have anything to remove |
| 23:42.46 | anddam | search ~g returns a lot of packages |
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| 23:43.23 | themill | the same ones? |
| 23:43.42 | anddam | mostrly |
| 23:43.44 | anddam | mostly |
| 23:43.52 | anddam | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.03 | anddam | https://gist.github.com/1597506 |
| 23:44.39 | anddam | isn't there a way to have consistent shortcuts among application? xchat has ctrl-v lxterminal has ctrl-shift-c chrome doesn't have a shortcut for copy/paste |
| 23:44.46 | anddam | applications* |
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| 23:45.31 | themill | anddam: shift+insert is pretty consistent. Terminals have their own meanings for ^C and ^V which tends to get in the road of using them for copy and paste |
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| 23:45.56 | anddam | insert == ? |
| 23:46.04 | anddam | I'm on a macbook keyboard |
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| 23:46.20 | themill | !pal anddam |
| 23:46.20 | dpkg | points at anddam and laughs |
| 23:48.28 | mahdy | i want to view total traffic for an interface that belong to ip address or mac address (i have a dsl connection and share it with others in network) , which tool should i use ? |
| 23:48.46 | streuner | anddam: CMD |
| 23:49.14 | streuner | anddam: CMD is on MBP not CTRL... |
| 23:49.28 | anddam | streuner: I'm not sure to understand what you're saying |
| 23:50.02 | anddam | I mean I read the period (and it's false btw) but I'm not sure if you suggesting I should use command rather than control or what else |
| 23:50.05 | streuner | anddam: you are able to use CMD + c/v to cut and paste |
| 23:50.06 | anddam | you're* |
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| 23:50.36 | anddam | oh, maybe I see |
| 23:50.42 | sters | Is there an APT help chan? |
| 23:50.47 | anddam | streuner: I'm on virtualbox guest, not a native debian |
| 23:51.28 | anddam | streuner: command is strongly connected to host's menus, I wish I could disable the host system until I shutdown the guest |
| 23:51.54 | anddam | themill: I'm reading /usr/share/doc/aptitude for ~g search pattern, isn't there a package with html doc? |
| 23:51.58 | themill | sters: your distro's user support channel -- so if you're using debian, #debian. |
| 23:52.12 | sters | thanks themill |
| 23:52.27 | sters | I setup my own repository but I'm having some package trouble |
| 23:52.32 | themill | dpkg: tell anddam about aptitude search |
| 23:53.16 | anddam | ah I see, I was searching wrong |
| 23:53.30 | anddam | aptitude-doc-en |
| 23:53.49 | sters | hm, looks like this machine is roll your own distro |
| 23:54.30 | sters | anyone know of a generic apt help chan? :) |
| 23:54.33 | anddam | "garbage" |
| 23:54.56 | anddam | themill: should I dump the garbage? |
| 23:55.38 | anddam | there's g++-4.4 among those |
| 23:56.03 | themill | anddam: which debian release is this? |
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| 23:56.21 | streuner | judd, versions g++ |
| 23:56.23 | judd | Package: g++ on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.6.1-3; sid: 4:4.6.2-4 |
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| 23:56.31 | anddam | testing |
| 23:56.41 | anddam | themill: a squeeze just upgraded to testing |
| 23:56.56 | anddam | following squeeze->wheezy |
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| 23:57.46 | themill | ahh, so yes, you probably don't want gcc-4.4 any more and you'll have done openoffice->libreoffice (or will do at least...) |
| 23:58.03 | anddam | correct, openoffice is in the garbage too |
| 23:58.22 | themill | or at least some of it is |
| 23:58.37 | anddam | btw I noticed console-terminus was removed in the upgrade |
| 23:58.47 | anddam | has it been replaced? |
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| 23:59.12 | themill | dpkg: tell jQuery about root |
| 23:59.34 | streuner | s(he) did that the last days... |
