| 00:00.13 | *** join/#debian |{41444d494e}| (~kvirc@178.123.196.25) |
| 00:00.49 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:01.06 | Shirakawasuna | iq-9: What do you plan on doing w/ the card? The two routes are basically to use nouveau (less powerful graphically, but easier to deal with and standardized) or the nvidia binary (more powerful, but a little trickier) |
| 00:01.25 | iq-9 | Shirakawasuna, nvidia binary |
| 00:01.46 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:04.24 | merlin1991 | cd1 img failed to, device seems to be fualty |
| 00:04.58 | Shirakawasuna | iq-9: so you tried this stuff? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Install_the_kernel_module |
| 00:05.17 | iq-9 | Shirakawasuna, yep |
| 00:06.14 | Shirakawasuna | iq-9: which part doesn't worK? |
| 00:06.18 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:06.55 | *** join/#debian Strife89 (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-189-250.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:07.25 | iq-9 | When I try to run this command "# apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-common", there is no repository for this |
| 00:07.51 | *** join/#debian Rajsun (~rajasun@bb219-75-98-170.singnet.com.sg) |
| 00:07.57 | jelly-home | iq-9: that page is full or needless alternatives. Use the dkms approach. |
| 00:08.07 | jelly-home | !tell iq-9 about nvidia dkms |
| 00:08.53 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:09.15 | jelly-home | !tell iq-9 about non-free sources |
| 00:09.51 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 00:09.58 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:9929:5595:1e19:8a58) |
| 00:11.35 | *** join/#debian mr_jrt (~j@host-78-146-219-105.as13285.net) |
| 00:11.44 | merlin1991 | dvs using another usb stick solved the problem, seems the first one was faulty, thanks for the help |
| 00:12.01 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:12.04 | dvs | np |
| 00:12.12 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 00:12.13 | merlin1991 | but whatabout size of / on a system without user wich servers as a nas with data from /var from another partition? |
| 00:12.34 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:12.57 | Shirakawasuna | iq-9: I'd do what jelly-home says, as I don't even run debian ;) |
| 00:13.02 | dvs | merlin1991: If /home isn't being used extensively, 20GB is plenty |
| 00:13.05 | somiaj | merlin1991: /var needs some space, /usr and /home are common places where files build up. |
| 00:13.29 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:13.45 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi__ (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 00:14.42 | iq-9 | jelly-home, thanks, but the commands look confusing |
| 00:15.26 | merlin1991 | the box should have no usage of /usr and /home, just serve the network as a nas with a samba that exposes /var/somedir |
| 00:15.37 | jelly-home | iq-9: first do the non-free sources bit. Then just copy-paste the huge oneliner |
| 00:15.41 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:15.53 | dvs | merlin1991: It will use /usr to install programs to. |
| 00:15.57 | merlin1991 | so I intend to have that somedi in it's own partition wich leaves / pretty small, and I want to partition / as small as possible |
| 00:16.23 | merlin1991 | sure but besides the essential stuff there's not going to be anything on /usr |
| 00:16.30 | jelly-home | merlin1991: where do you plan to store logs? |
| 00:16.40 | merlin1991 | /var/log? |
| 00:16.42 | *** join/#debian Pinchiukas (~keps@unaffiliated/pinchiukas) |
| 00:16.43 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 00:16.49 | dvs | jelly: in a separate partition |
| 00:17.30 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~casosac@190.235.154.208) |
| 00:17.42 | merlin1991 | so essentially I'm asking how much space do I need for kernel + configs + most basic installation there is |
| 00:17.46 | *** join/#debian max_sharpe (~pirch@c-98-221-58-255.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 00:18.01 | *** join/#debian bambanx (~crazycat@pc-187-187-120-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 00:18.09 | Pinchiukas | Can anybody help me with this? Here is my boot log: http://pastebin.com/vZVhX8rS Is there something wrong with my kernel or something? Or am I just using the wrong boot device? |
| 00:18.21 | jelly-home | merlin1991: if you don't have users, have a separate place for logs, and don't plan on building anything from source or installing X or something sillier, 2GiB ought to be fine. base system takes 500MB but you want something usable. |
| 00:18.38 | jelly-home | merlin1991: how large is your root device going to be? |
| 00:20.00 | jelly-home | merlin1991: if you're not sure, use LVM and grow LVs and filesystems if needed |
| 00:20.03 | bambanx | guy anyone know a good game mmorp that run on debian ? |
| 00:20.41 | merlin1991 | jelly-home: I went down that path once, ended up with a system wich had way too many lvms and used the whole disk anyway |
| 00:21.36 | *** join/#debian ejvend (~ejvend@96.18.104.96) |
| 00:21.45 | jelly-home | merlin1991: how large is your root device going to be? |
| 00:22.13 | *** join/#debian Accelerator (~mint@unaffiliated/iymovies) |
| 00:22.25 | Accelerator | So I guess Cherokee web server still doesn't work through the reposiroty? |
| 00:22.30 | merlin1991 | I'm not sure what you mean with root device, but I'll do a 2gib / a 1gib swap and the rest goes to /var |
| 00:22.44 | Accelerator | I install it an immediately it doesn't work. The admin panel gives a 503 error. |
| 00:22.46 | jelly-home | merlin1991: the device where you're going to place / and swap. |
| 00:22.46 | iq-9 | jelly-home, The one liner gave no response |
| 00:22.53 | Accelerator | I'm not even going to dare touch it further if it's still broken here |
| 00:23.08 | iq-9 | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/6QFLTc90 that is the paste |
| 00:23.20 | merlin1991 | jelly-home: I'm thinking of 2 to 3 gib |
| 00:23.36 | *** join/#debian nickgaw (~nick@70-139-55-30.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:23.41 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B284391.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:23.51 | jelly-home | iq-9: you're supposed to paste only the bits between the outmost double quotes into a root shell. |
| 00:24.11 | nickgaw | With debian stable /dev/dsp does not exist how can I create it? |
| 00:24.20 | *** join/#debian nvctr (~nvctr@188.27.206.189) |
| 00:24.24 | jelly-home | nickgaw: make your app use ALSA instead |
| 00:24.41 | *** join/#debian robinetd (~robinetd@friedwaffles.com) |
| 00:24.47 | Accelerator | Alright, I'm going to take that as a yes, Cherokee still doesn't work on Debian |
| 00:24.52 | nickgaw | the application is asterisk and I am trying to test out the console interface |
| 00:25.05 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@114-198-122-160.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 00:25.06 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@unaffiliated/neerolyte) |
| 00:25.30 | iq-9 | jelly-home, My imperssion is that I have to disable nouveau drivers and then I can install the nvidia ones |
| 00:25.44 | jelly-home | iq-9: which is what the oneliner does. |
| 00:25.50 | robinetd | Hi guys. I'm using /etc/init.d/networking to connect to my AP. wpa_supplicant starts and associates with the AP just fine, but when it goes to run dhclient wlan0, it says "RTNETLINK answers: File Exists" |
| 00:25.59 | nickgaw | so there is no way to fix this issue with a precompiled program? |
| 00:26.04 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:26.18 | iq-9 | jelly-home, It looks like a set of trancated instructions |
| 00:26.31 | jelly-home | iq-9: no, that's the whole deal |
| 00:26.38 | nvctr | Hi everyone, I need some information from the mirror team, anybody here who could help me? |
| 00:26.39 | iq-9 | jelly-home, Only fragments are commands |
| 00:26.53 | jelly-home | iq-9: aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 00:26.57 | jelly-home | iq-9: do that. |
| 00:27.35 | jelly-home | it's three commands, aptitude ... && mkdir ...; echo ... > ... |
| 00:27.38 | *** join/#debian peregrinator_six (~humano@187.126.156.209) |
| 00:27.38 | *** join/#debian peregrinator_six (~humano@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) |
| 00:28.05 | iq-9 | jelly-home, So fire up a text editor and paste the command into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d... |
| 00:28.09 | jelly-home | NO |
| 00:28.19 | nvctr | I need some details regarding bug #612077, since nobody had an answer by now, I decided to shout it here |
| 00:28.33 | jelly-home | iq-9: just paste the whole deal into a root shell and execute it |
| 00:29.32 | nickgaw | so there is no way to fix this issue with a precompiled program? should I upgrade to a newer version to fix the /dev/dsp issue? |
| 00:30.11 | *** join/#debian GRMrGecko (~GRMrGecko@173-18-198-159.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:30.27 | jelly-home | nickgaw: if you absolutely cannot reconfigure it to use alsa natively, you can "modprobe snd-oss-pcm" to enable kernel-level emulation of alsa |
| 00:30.32 | *** part/#debian GRMrGecko (~GRMrGecko@173-18-198-159.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:30.40 | jelly-home | of OSS* devices, sorry |
| 00:30.49 | merlin1991 | hm how long would mkfs.ext3 take for a new partition around 990 GiB? because the installer is taking awefully long todo that |
| 00:31.08 | *** part/#debian robinetd (~robinetd@friedwaffles.com) |
| 00:31.09 | Shirakawasuna | merlin1991: a pretty long time |
| 00:31.17 | Shirakawasuna | I dunno, 5-10 mins? |
| 00:31.18 | jelly-home | merlin1991: maybe 20 minutes on a slow HDD |
| 00:32.12 | jelly-home | it's basically a bunch of small random writes and metal-platter devices do not like that |
| 00:32.44 | lulzfish_4 | Really? I thought a new partition and FS was basically like "Okay, this is all blank space and here's a blank file tree" |
| 00:33.40 | jelly-home | lulzfish_4: the structure underneath "all blank space and here's a blank file tree" can be rather complex |
| 00:33.48 | lulzfish_4 | I guess so |
| 00:34.25 | jelly-home | or in ext2-ext3 case, rather simple but requiring lots of writes |
| 00:34.32 | merlin1991 | I've learned one thing today, when the installer asks for the cdrom to be mounted, try another usb stick :D |
| 00:35.22 | jelly-home | merlin1991: how come you're not putting root on that TB disk as well? |
| 00:35.54 | dvs | heh |
| 00:35.58 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:36.03 | *** join/#debian alpharesearch (~markus@24-158-88-106.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) |
| 00:36.09 | dvs | get a second opinion |
| 00:36.58 | *** join/#debian nvctr (~nvctr@188.27.206.189) |
| 00:36.58 | merlin1991 | I am, but most of /var is going to be exposed to the net as a cifs share, and I don't want the box to stop booting due to getting / filled up by my crazy brother :D |
| 00:37.55 | merlin1991 | ffs, I'll never remember the difference between enter and space in the installer in time |
| 00:37.59 | iq-9 | jelly-home, Okay, what is next |
| 00:38.13 | *** join/#debian Rajsun (~rajasun@bb219-75-98-170.singnet.com.sg) |
| 00:38.25 | *** join/#debian un214 (~un214@adsl-75-45-20-64.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:38.27 | jelly-home | reboot and enjoy, hopefully |
| 00:38.45 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:38.48 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 00:38.52 | merlin1991 | hm could a full /var prevent the box from booting? |
| 00:38.58 | iq-9 | jelly-home, No, I have two monitors--perhaps I need to install something else? |
| 00:39.18 | un214 | merlin1991: yes |
| 00:39.30 | merlin1991 | because in my genious attempt to rule that problem out I forgot that I put just /var out of the picture wich still leaves /var/log in a poosibly full state |
| 00:39.46 | jelly-home | iq-9: nvidia-settings, you can do that post-reboot |
| 00:39.48 | un214 | but it should come up single user |
| 00:40.03 | *** join/#debian MUILTFN (~MLINTH@adsl-98-80-230-41.mcn.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:40.22 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:40.26 | iq-9 | jelly-home, Command not found |
| 00:41.30 | merlin1991 | un214: I guess I need some space in /var/log to get it up? |
| 00:42.11 | un214 | I'm not sure but the manuals say /var must be writable (and therefore free space) to come up all the way to multiuser |
| 00:42.16 | jelly-home | iq-9: yes. You asked if you needed to install something else. |
| 00:42.35 | jelly-home | that was the answer. |
| 00:42.58 | iq-9 | jelly-home, ahh thanks |
| 00:43.12 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:43.51 | jelly-home | it's a pretty tool that may or may not help with setting up nvidia-style multiple output devices |
| 00:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1062] by debhelper |
| 00:45.15 | jelly-home | iq-9: I'd suggest to reboot first and see whether X works at all |
| 00:47.02 | *** join/#debian daveo (~daveo@97.73.171.234) |
| 00:48.15 | iq-9 | jelly-home, I rebooted ages ago. I am trying to configure the dual screens. I will try to do it from root in recovery mode |
| 00:48.21 | *** join/#debian zfran (~zfranco@186.136.190.154) |
| 00:48.42 | jelly-home | iq-9: does X work? |
| 00:48.54 | iq-9 | jelly-home, Yeah, but just on one screen |
| 00:49.08 | jelly-home | iq-9: so start it and see what nvidia-settings has to offer |
| 00:49.12 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 00:49.53 | jelly-home | iq-9: oh, there's also nvidia-xconfig |
| 00:50.02 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:50.16 | jelly-home | that one may actually be useful |
| 00:50.51 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:52.32 | iq-9 | jelly-home, Nah, nothing there to install or invoke |
| 00:53.27 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 00:53.56 | *** join/#debian Grav (~administr@109.110.194.219) |
| 00:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1056] by debhelper |
| 00:54.36 | merlin1991 | hm free -m reports 3gb instead of 4gb, wtf? |
| 00:54.42 | merlin1991 | and no I am on 64 bit |
| 00:55.31 | *** join/#debian stealth- (~stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) |
| 00:55.37 | stealth- | A tutorial is recommending to use "jail" |
| 00:55.38 | stealth- | http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/ |
| 00:55.42 | *** part/#debian zfran (~zfranco@186.136.190.154) |
| 00:55.43 | *** join/#debian Fragggy (~Fragggy@bitsplit.de) |
| 00:55.50 | stealth- | It's not in the debian repositories as far as I can tell, but other jail applications are. |
| 00:56.00 | stealth- | Is there something wrong with the jail mentioned in the tutorial? |
| 00:56.16 | *** join/#debian hufnus (~hufnus@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 00:57.23 | jelly-home | stealth-: note the distros mentioned on that page. Find out their release dates, they're all very old. That page may not be accurate or reliable source of information for a modern distro. |
| 00:57.23 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 00:57.49 | jelly-home | Last Updated 08/12/2003 |
| 00:57.59 | stealth- | Ah, true. |
| 00:58.13 | iq-9 | jelly-home, I am trying to configure the nvidia x server settings and for some reason it will not apply to both screens. |
| 00:58.26 | stealth- | So probably best to try and apply it to a different jail program? |
| 00:58.34 | Exhalted | I've downloaded this: debian-testing-ia64-netinst.iso <- will this one be bootable? |
| 00:58.50 | somiaj | iq-9: are you using nvidia-settings? |
| 00:58.52 | jelly-home | iq-9: I have no experience with multimonitor setup, sorry |
| 00:59.02 | iq-9 | somiaj, Yep |
| 00:59.04 | jelly-home | at least not with that driver |
| 00:59.21 | Exhalted | debian-testing-ia64-netinst.iso <- because I burnt this and it was not T-T |
| 00:59.23 | jelly-home | Exhalted: no, that's for Itanium servers. |
| 00:59.25 | iq-9 | jelly-home, I have done this with other distros, but this one is being stubborn |
| 00:59.42 | jelly-home | Exhalted: you want "amd64". Yes, even for Intel 64bit CPUs. |
| 00:59.47 | Exhalted | jelly-home: im installing it on a dual core intel ia64 proc |
| 01:00.04 | jelly-home | Exhalted: that's not an "ia64" proc. |
| 01:00.09 | Exhalted | it says it is |
| 01:00.16 | jelly-home | Exhalted: quote it. |
| 01:00.20 | Exhalted | .sec |
| 01:00.35 | jelly-home | Exhalted: it might say "EM64T" or "x64" or "x86-64", but it won't say "ia64". |
| 01:00.41 | Exhalted | the first one |
| 01:00.49 | jelly-home | goto 10 |
| 01:01.10 | jelly-home | Exhalted: you want Debian amd64 architecture. |
| 01:01.15 | Exhalted | k |
| 01:02.02 | jelly-home | Exhalted: or i386, that would work as well |
| 01:02.04 | iq-9 | Anyone here setup twin monitors with nvidia drivers? |
| 01:04.21 | Exhalted | why so many dvds |
| 01:04.29 | Exhalted | can i just grab that stuff frm the pkg manager? |
| 01:04.43 | Exhalted | are we still using aptitude or what do you guys recommend? |
| 01:04.56 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@p54A5BE4F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:04.56 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@p54A5BE4F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:05.01 | pipeline | iq-9: use nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig, problem solved |
| 01:05.16 | dvs | Exhalted: you only need the first one if you have an Internet connection |
| 01:05.21 | Exhalted | k |
| 01:07.03 | *** join/#debian kpiqa (~daniel@cm-81-9-173-157.telecable.es) |
| 01:08.41 | *** join/#debian tikohumsup_ (~rajasun@bb219-75-98-170.singnet.com.sg) |
| 01:09.37 | *** join/#debian asias (~asias@sigersonmusic.com) |
| 01:09.42 | iq-9 | pipeline, Nah, those commands do nothing either |
| 01:10.03 | *** join/#debian osprey (me@host-219-70-196-43.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 01:11.11 | *** join/#debian htoothrot (~mux@unaffiliated/htoothrot) |
| 01:11.23 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 01:11.45 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B284391.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:12.41 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable192.189-178-173.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:12.54 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@cpe-66-65-102-78.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:13.39 | *** join/#debian speedrunnerG55 (~speedrunn@ool-43503551.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:13.53 | *** join/#debian locojay (~locojay@pool-108-6-12-127.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:14.26 | merlin1991 | hm any hints on whoto start your own dhcp server only IF you can't get a valid lease on boot? |
| 01:15.20 | *** join/#debian ov3rmind (~leo@unaffiliated/ov3rmind) |
| 01:15.26 | Grav | To install conky on debian 6 stable i need to download it and compile? |
| 01:15.37 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@r180-216-41-71.cpe.vividwireless.net.au) |
| 01:15.52 | *** join/#debian bombadil_ (~Tom@S0106002369c5e36f.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 01:17.57 | *** join/#debian ajikeshi_ (~ajikeshi@unaffiliated/ajikeshi) |
| 01:18.03 | *** join/#debian overchan (~ano@p5084FF4F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:18.13 | somiaj | Grav: its in the 'contrib' part, you may just not have that in your sources. |
| 01:18.21 | *** join/#debian monsterloony (~ano@p5084FF4F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:18.24 | somiaj | Grav: but 1.8.0 is in squeeze. |
| 01:18.30 | somiaj | and 1.8.1 is in backports |
| 01:19.11 | jelly-home | iq-9: does nvidia-settings not show both monitors connected? Are they both powered on? |
| 01:20.20 | Grav | somiaj: I can't find it in synaptic. I should add new sources for that? |
| 01:20.59 | somiaj | Grav: just add the line 'contrib' to the end of your current mirror squeeze lines |
| 01:21.20 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 01:21.40 | somiaj | Grav: deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free [if you don't want non-free leave it off] |
| 01:21.42 | iq-9 | jelly-home, yes they are both powered on, but the twin view feature will not work |
| 01:21.50 | somiaj | Grav: something like that. |
| 01:22.01 | iq-9 | Or seperate x screens, not twin view |
| 01:22.12 | Grav | somiaj: I will need to read about that, but it will be still stable or this is testing already? |
| 01:22.27 | iq-9 | It detects two screens, but will not configure |
| 01:23.02 | somiaj | Grav: its still stable. Debian just splits up packages based off of license agreements according to the DSFG, but the stuff in contrib and non-free are both matianed and get security updates. |
| 01:23.24 | somiaj | Grav: 'main' 'contrib' and 'non-free' are the main catagories. |
| 01:23.42 | burd | pastebin the xorg.conf |
| 01:24.11 | Grav | somiaj: Ok. Thanks for the info, will check that. |
| 01:25.03 | merlin1991 | hm where do I find docs about ifup.d ? |
| 01:25.21 | merlin1991 | it's not in the network section of the manual |
| 01:25.50 | somiaj | merlin1991: ifup.d? do you mean the ifup script? |
| 01:26.38 | burd | merlin1991, unless you plan on the newly started dhcpd to serve the network with addresses.. I don't believe your intended solution is the best |
| 01:27.18 | jelly-home | iq-9: for what it's worth, nvidia-xconfig -A shows options related to separate-x-screens, twinview and xinerama. |
| 01:27.55 | merlin1991 | I'm seeking a solution where the box first trys to get an ip over dhcp and if that fails it assings a static one and instead serves the network |
| 01:27.58 | jelly-home | iq-9: perhaps you'll need to use an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 01:29.02 | *** part/#debian Grav (~administr@109.110.194.219) |
| 01:29.05 | *** join/#debian VampX (~VampX@cpe-0022b0c7952e.cpe.cableonda.net) |
| 01:29.09 | burd | merlin1991, you could write a bash script for this probably and run it last at boot or something |
| 01:29.17 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@50.105.149.180) |
| 01:29.55 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@168-103-238-232.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 01:30.01 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 01:30.02 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 01:30.41 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@pool-72-65-125-110.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 01:31.44 | merlin1991 | burd I thought I might get away with some bash black magic somehwere in /etc/if* |
| 01:31.54 | merlin1991 | err /etc/network/if* |
| 01:32.09 | iq-9 | jelly-home, this thing does not want to work |
| 01:32.09 | burd | merlin1991, check /etc/network/interfaces may man it |
| 01:32.42 | abrotman | judd: info netenv --release squeeze |
| 01:32.43 | jelly-home | iq-9: send me a second monitor so I can test it |
| 01:32.44 | judd | Package netenv (admin, extra) in squeeze/i386: Configure your system for different network environments. Version: 0.94.3-27; Size: 79.8k; Installed: 344k; Homepage: http://netenv.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:32.47 | abrotman | merlin1991: ^^ |
| 01:32.48 | *** join/#debian user (~user@ool-4571d530.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:33.00 | *** join/#debian speed-mobile (~speedrunn@mobile-166-137-136-234.mycingular.net) |
| 01:33.06 | iq-9 | jelly-home, heh |
| 01:33.12 | burd | iq-9, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a pastebin somewhere and let me see it |
| 01:33.37 | *** join/#debian XLV (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 01:34.02 | merlin1991 | abrotman: that looks like the ideal solution, if that box had a screen on it |
| 01:34.45 | *** join/#debian bombadil_ (~Tom@S0106002369c5e36f.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 01:35.25 | abrotman | merlin1991: it's not a GUI program |
| 01:36.10 | merlin1991 | "The difference to similar packages is that it doesn't try to autodetect your environment, but expects your input." |
| 01:36.13 | iq-9 | burd, http://pastebin.com/FXqCxVRN |
| 01:36.30 | merlin1991 | the box is supposed to boot wihout a single keystroke |
| 01:36.55 | burd | totally not set up for twin view |
| 01:37.03 | burd | need two monitors, two screens |
| 01:37.24 | burd | and the twin view settings in the Device stanzas |
| 01:37.30 | iq-9 | burd, How can you tell? |
| 01:37.33 | abrotman | merlin1991: apt-cache search network configuration .. look through them |
| 01:37.40 | burd | I've been using twin view for 7 years :) |
| 01:38.02 | burd | not right now but off and on |
| 01:38.13 | burd | I might have a twin view example conf lemme look |
| 01:39.09 | *** join/#debian tikohumsup_ (~rajasun@bb219-75-98-170.singnet.com.sg) |
| 01:44.03 | iq-9 | Ugg, this is what I get for leaving Slackware. Shame on me |
| 01:44.12 | iq-9 | bad bad bad bad |
| 01:44.30 | burd | merlin1991: there is some of the xorg missing on that paste btw.. where is the screens sections |
| 01:44.33 | iq-9 | (knocks head on desk) |
| 01:44.41 | burd | oops sorry |
| 01:44.43 | burd | iq-9 |
| 01:45.04 | iq-9 | burd, Okay, lemme scroll down and paste that |
| 01:45.49 | burd | iq-9: ty |
| 01:45.59 | *** join/#debian froggyman_ (~seth@50.105.149.180) |
| 01:46.49 | iq-9 | burd, http://pastebin.com/S8Fmwi3u |
| 01:47.29 | burd | k be a few minutes |
| 01:47.37 | iq-9 | burd, Ignore line 1, I added that a few moments ago |
| 01:49.06 | *** join/#debian dsdeiz (~dsdeiz@acl1-730bts.gw.smartbro.net) |
| 01:52.29 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@cpe-66-65-102-78.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:53.00 | yagoo | iq-9, did u generate with X -configure ? |
| 01:53.28 | iq-9 | yagoo, Can yuo elaborate the question? |
| 01:53.58 | yagoo | iq-9, u can generate a sample xorg.conf -- X doesnt need to have an xorg.conf.. it can generate a sample one in ~ if you do X -configure |
| 01:54.14 | yagoo | iq-9, then tweak it's autodetection made xorg.conf file |
| 01:54.27 | burd | iq-9, http://pastebin.com/Qyk6ausJ << this should be pretty close if not working |
| 01:54.28 | iq-9 | yagoo, Should I logout and do it from a root shell? |
| 01:54.43 | burd | iq-9, your xorg.conf is already the generated one, we are doing the tweeking now |
| 01:55.21 | yagoo | iq-9, rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf , /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then X -configure (root), then check superuser's ~, then copy ~/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then tweak that xorg.conf as needed |
| 01:55.26 | burd | iq-9 if you didn't have a generated xorg.conf, by default you don't have one at all |
| 01:55.34 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 01:55.52 | burd | and.. it is commented at top that it is the geenrated conf |
| 01:56.08 | iq-9 | burd, Should I cut n paste your post into the conf? |
| 01:56.42 | burd | make a backup copy first by yah try it.. note.. your desktop may not start, then you copy old back in and restart gdm/kdm/xdm |
| 01:56.52 | *** join/#debian lyte_ (~lyte@114-198-71-204.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 01:57.02 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@189.188.150.149) |
| 01:57.06 | burd | do not forget to restart xdm/kdm/gdm after you copy the new one in place |
| 01:58.52 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5DD06894.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:00.49 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@2001:470:783f:abcd:ca5a:14ef:fe20:4bf) |
| 02:01.33 | *** join/#debian strayer (~RetHo1g@lxproxy4.bfinv.de) |
| 02:02.06 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 02:03.06 | iq-9 | burd, You were right, it definitely killed my GUI |
| 02:03.08 | iq-9 | heh |
| 02:03.27 | burd | k now... |
| 02:03.32 | burd | you can debug it |
| 02:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1045] by debhelper |
| 02:04.08 | burd | tail -n 100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log << this will show you the last lines of it firing up |
| 02:04.22 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B283BBA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:04.23 | burd | the very few last lines should have the error and what caused it |
| 02:04.42 | iq-9 | burd, It is blank now, I removed it |
| 02:04.59 | *** join/#debian maik (~maik@76.178.145.78) |
| 02:05.25 | burd | k well you can try to restart with the bad config and see what it does.. even though that config is not working it is very similar to what you need to do twin-view |
| 02:06.10 | *** join/#debian InvalidHandle (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe8efb00-63.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 02:06.45 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@unaffiliated/neerolyte) |
| 02:06.59 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 02:08.13 | burd | iq-9, I would also highly suggest digging through the docs at x.org, look for twinview |
| 02:09.06 | iq-9 | burd, okay, I did not realize it would be this tough to get this going |
| 02:09.18 | iq-9 | burd, Thanks for your help |
| 02:09.33 | burd | iq-9 it is only tough the first time, once you get the understanding of what is happening, it is pretty easy after that |
| 02:09.53 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 02:10.52 | iq-9 | burd, I have used linux for about 4 years now---but some parts I get stuck |
| 02:11.04 | burd | iq-9, its a simple ocnfiguration matter from here.. you have the nvidia drivers installed and working on a singe monitor so the twinview is workable |
| 02:11.38 | burd | iq-9, I have used Linux for 11 years now--and some part I get stuck too |
| 02:12.03 | Xenguy | Yeah exactly, linux works most of the time now, but occasionally it humbles you :-) |
| 02:12.17 | Xenguy | Still I love it |
| 02:12.32 | burd | I think it depends on how much and the level of tinkering you are doing.. |
| 02:13.01 | burd | set and forget and it runs forever pretty much.. but if you want more and more all the time, it gets harder and harder to find the satisfaction ;) |
| 02:13.14 | iq-9 | burd, It is interesting how each distro has a drawback somewhere, and gains in others |
| 02:13.18 | Xenguy | True, and I'm lazier than I used to be ;-) |
| 02:13.24 | burd | iq-9 totally |
| 02:13.58 | Xenguy | So I run old-stable :P |
| 02:14.14 | burd | I just did a little roundup of Distributions for personal testing about two weeks ago.. it was an interesting adventure |
| 02:14.57 | burd | I run old-stable on some servers just because of our upgrade policies.. we try to let stable sit and debug as long as possible |
| 02:16.07 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@pool-72-66-231-160.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:17.29 | *** join/#debian Sazpaimon_ (~wat@c-68-32-58-174.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 02:18.33 | Xenguy | burd: Any conclusions/observations from the roundup? |
| 02:18.56 | burd | Xenguy: it's probably not appropriate to talk about it in Debian support channel |
| 02:19.05 | Xenguy | hahah |
| 02:19.08 | Xenguy | OK |
| 02:19.15 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 02:19.36 | burd | I can just say Debian did not win for best desktop distribution and I've been usi it exclusively for 9 years |
| 02:21.12 | Xenguy | I've been using debian on the desktop for over 10 years, and it works for me, what can I say |
| 02:21.20 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:21.31 | Xenguy | I don't even use GNOME anymore most of the time |
| 02:21.44 | lulzfish_4 | Xenguy: Tried to PM you but it didn't work... what roundup are you talking about? |
| 02:21.46 | burd | Yah the whole thing was powered by my dissatisfaction for the new KDE tbh.. I am a KDE fanboy of sorts I guess |
| 02:21.47 | Xenguy | ratpoison is lighter and fine for what I want to do |
| 02:22.35 | Sazpaimon_ | #crosstool-ng is dead, so is #maemo, so I guess I need to ask here |
| 02:22.51 | Xenguy | burd: Ahh, I see |
| 02:23.02 | *** join/#debian diniwed2 (~gavron@ool-457596d4.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:23.25 | Sazpaimon_ | I'm trying to build a specific toolchain using crosstool-ng, and when it tries to build the shared eglibc, I get this during linking: http://pastebin.com/5wZAVUvK |
| 02:23.26 | Xenguy | I respect KDE, but as a minimalist, I find it too complicated really, so never used it beyond trying it briefly |
| 02:23.40 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 02:24.07 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 02:24.23 | Xenguy | heads out for a midnight toke... |
| 02:24.25 | burd | It was a fully blown working monster before 4.x, now its a toy |
| 02:24.33 | *** join/#debian xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-253-133.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 02:26.01 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-227-72-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 02:26.38 | nevyn | point Xenguy at mjg's excellent rant about light/minimal blah |
| 02:27.09 | Sazpaimon_ | anyone know why this is happening? did the static libc6 not build correctly? |
| 02:27.19 | *** join/#debian HTT-Bird (~Birdz0r@unaffiliated/htt-bird) |
| 02:27.34 | *** join/#debian Arrick (~Arrick_@unaffiliated/arrick) |
| 02:27.56 | Arrick | hey all, what is the syntax to chmod a file so that a specific user is granted write permissions? |
| 02:28.34 | *** part/#debian HTT-Bird (~Birdz0r@unaffiliated/htt-bird) |
| 02:28.39 | xovan | Specific user as in owner? Or non owner? |
| 02:28.40 | Diddi | you can only specify permissions for the file owner, group owner or "everyone else" |
| 02:28.57 | xovan | You can make a group exclusive to one guy though. |
| 02:29.01 | Arrick | ok, I cant remember how to tell what user/group owns it |
| 02:29.04 | Arrick | yeah |
| 02:29.15 | merlin1991 | 0 |
| 02:29.18 | merlin1991 | sry |
| 02:29.21 | *** join/#debian dfc_ (~dfc@cpe-74-71-26-125.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 02:29.35 | dfc_ | how do i find out more information about a virtual package? |
| 02:30.00 | *** join/#debian VampX (~VampX@190.219.178.154) |
| 02:30.08 | merlin1991 | burd, abrotman: I got what I wanted by placing a script like this http://paste.debian.net/133769/ inside /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ |
| 02:30.31 | burd | merlin1991: perfect |
| 02:30.34 | *** join/#debian mmnicola1 (~intruder@69-196-176-151.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:30.54 | lulzfish_4 | Arrick: "stat" should say what user/group owns a file, right? |
| 02:30.57 | Arrick | xovan, for everyone else I want read, but for user/group I want edit and etc, isnt that like 774 or something like that |
| 02:31.39 | lulzfish_4 | yeah 774 should be rwxrwxr--, user and group can do anything, others can only read |
| 02:31.42 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:31.56 | *** join/#debian Driver (~Driver@krsk.gtm.ru) |
| 02:31.57 | Arrick | ok, thanks, Im just a wee bit rusty on my nix stuff |
| 02:32.12 | nvctr | Hi everybody, I have a problem with a newly created Debian mirror, and on OTFC / #debian-mirrors I cannot find anyone awake, can you help me a bit? |
| 02:33.13 | xovan | Arrick: http://tldp.org/LDP/Pocket-Linux-Guide/html/ |
| 02:33.20 | Arrick | thanks |
| 02:33.25 | xovan | very good quick reference for linux stuff |
| 02:33.30 | *** part/#debian tapout (~tapout@d50-99-60-236.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 02:33.56 | xovan | though its geared towards fedora it hits lots of the important utilities that are universal |
| 02:34.08 | dfc_ | q |
| 02:34.16 | Xenguy | nevyn: Tx, what's the URL? |
| 02:34.59 | Xenguy | Shite, I'm having another beerski :-) |
| 02:35.03 | nevyn | Xenguy: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/#entry-2414 |
| 02:35.11 | Xenguy | nevyn: awesome, tx |
| 02:36.00 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 02:37.13 | Xenguy | nevyn: hrm, maybe I have the wrong article, but seems tangentially (sp?) related |
| 02:37.30 | Xenguy | Or maybe I missed the good part :-) |
| 02:37.38 | Xenguy | brb |
| 02:37.39 | *** join/#debian corretico (~luis@201.201.44.82) |
| 02:38.15 | nvctr | anybody here from mirrors team or something related? See bug #612077 for a quick reference |
| 02:39.14 | iq-9 | Anyone here know about setting up twin view with nvidia drivers? |
| 02:40.00 | *** part/#debian lulzfish_4 (~troy@unaffiliated/lulzfish-4/x-1415764) |
| 02:42.00 | *** join/#debian rsampaio (~rodrigo@187.11.28.47) |
| 02:44.53 | yagoo | iq-9, maybe the driver is not very compat with X |
| 02:44.57 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 02:45.05 | yagoo | iq-9, check the nvidia readme doc.. |
| 02:46.28 | iq-9 | yagoo, It works for Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu, and Fedora--therefore it *should* work with Deian |
| 02:46.48 | iq-9 | yagoo, Except with Debian you need an ulcer firsr |
| 02:46.54 | iq-9 | first |
| 02:47.02 | *** join/#debian krux (~krux@72.186.134.221) |
| 02:48.02 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-248-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 02:49.18 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 02:49.53 | yagoo | iq-9, see what X version and driver version it is.. |
| 02:50.08 | somiaj | iq-9: I always wrote my own xorg.conf file, but I have'nt used two moninotrs in about 4-5 yers |
| 02:50.10 | yagoo | nvctr, the http and ftp work from here |
| 02:50.22 | yagoo | nvctr, (i'm in canada-- and i'm able to access those sites) |
| 02:50.27 | *** join/#debian musca (musca@tyrael.eu) |
| 02:51.09 | nvctr | yagoo, I don't have a problem with the current official mirrors |
| 02:51.45 | nvctr | we have created a mirror a few months ago, and I cannot get it listed in the official mirror list |
| 02:51.53 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@184.91.132.0) |
| 02:52.23 | nvctr | "we", being a local Debian community |
| 02:52.39 | yagoo | nvctr, they say why they don't i think in the thread.. |
| 02:54.18 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@168-103-238-232.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 02:54.18 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 02:54.19 | nvctr | have you visited the bug's thread? |
| 02:55.37 | yagoo | nvctr, i'm not a maintainer, i did quickly read it.. the 4th input on that page.. |
| 02:55.47 | *** join/#debian Flash__ (~Digdilem@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 02:56.01 | Sazpaimon_ | can anyone help me with this crosstool-ng issue I posted earlier? |
| 02:56.04 | yagoo | nvctr, dunno what all the details are in there.. |
| 02:56.19 | yagoo | nvctr, why not e-mail directly? |
| 02:57.00 | nvctr | yagoo, I have just seen Simon Paillard is on vacation |
| 02:57.12 | nvctr | I think he leads the mirror team |
| 02:57.13 | *** join/#debian VampX (~VampX@190.219.178.154) |
| 02:57.19 | yagoo | nvctr, this is what i read "The bandwidth allocated to this server is 10mbps outside Romania and |
| 02:57.19 | yagoo | 100Mbps Metropolitan/National local peers. |
| 02:57.22 | yagoo | " |
| 02:57.44 | yagoo | nvctr, i'm guessing they like to have true mirrors in the respective country.. |
| 02:58.03 | *** join/#debian burd (~burd@71-32-57-115.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 02:58.04 | nvctr | yagoo what do you mean by "true mirrors"? |
| 02:58.25 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 02:58.25 | yagoo | nvctr, maybe they're picky on geolocation of the hosting server.. |
| 02:59.07 | nvctr | yagoo, heh, there are more debian mirroring servers in our country |
| 02:59.12 | nvctr | already |
| 02:59.27 | nvctr | I guess they bumped once, and never recovered :) |
| 03:00.00 | nvctr | yagoo, our mirror is working fine since February |
| 03:01.14 | nvctr | anyway, thanks for your interest, I was hoping somebody related to the mirroring team is around here to point to the problem, I guess I'll stick around until later |
| 03:01.22 | nvctr | yagoo, thanks again |
| 03:03.31 | *** join/#debian iq-9 (~iq-9@CPE687f74b88100-CM0011aec8995c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:05.32 | *** join/#debian eZet (~ezet@167.81-166-185.customer.lyse.net) |
| 03:08.08 | *** join/#debian drinkycrow (~dead@c-68-58-76-30.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:08.54 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 03:10.33 | *** join/#debian lyte_ (~lyte@220-253-24-16.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 03:12.29 | *** join/#debian chriswaterguy (~chatzilla@180.252.148.212) |
| 03:14.26 | *** join/#debian quasisane (~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 03:15.20 | bambanx | how i can do for install other os with double boot on my debian ? |
| 03:15.40 | *** join/#debian MmikeDOMA (~msplival@cpe-188-129-71-88.dynamic.amis.hr) |
| 03:17.21 | somiaj | bambanx: what other os? You need another parition or free hd space to install it on. And then you need a bootloader that can boot either. In debian grub can be used |
| 03:18.21 | bambanx | i am on debian 6 now, and i need install windows 7 , without lost my debian |
| 03:18.28 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 03:18.55 | *** join/#debian burd (~burd@71-32-56-101.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 03:19.26 | asarch | You can't bambanx |
| 03:19.37 | asarch | You must install Windows 7 first and then Debian |
| 03:19.45 | bambanx | =( |
| 03:20.24 | asarch | You can, however, use VirtualBox to have Windows 7 over your Debian system |
| 03:21.19 | asarch | What do you need Windows 7 for? |
| 03:21.31 | asarch | Game? AutoCAD? |
| 03:22.05 | bambanx | games |
| 03:22.06 | bambanx | :P |
| 03:22.31 | bambanx | i cannot find any decent way for play my games on debian |
| 03:22.47 | asarch | Use an XBox 360 or a PS3 |
| 03:22.58 | asarch | Or even better, a Nintendo Wii box |
| 03:22.59 | asarch | :-P |
| 03:23.02 | bambanx | i have too |
| 03:23.05 | bambanx | 360 xbox |
| 03:23.08 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 03:23.09 | bambanx | but i like mmorpg |
| 03:23.33 | *** join/#debian katsrc (~quassel@cpe-69-203-198-189.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:23.34 | asarch | You could if you would have an Alien box |
| 03:23.39 | bambanx | and my lady mad when i go on weekend to party and drink, so i need play the weekend |
| 03:23.39 | Sazpaimon_ | use wine |
| 03:23.43 | somiaj | asarch: yes you can, you just have to make sure you tell your windows install to isntall on a blank partition |
| 03:24.04 | somiaj | asarch: you then have to boot up into a resuce cd to reinstall grub and be able to boot right, so its usually easier to install windows first. |
| 03:24.18 | asarch | somiaj, considering he actually considered an extra partition for Windows... |
| 03:24.34 | asarch | But if he didn't... |
| 03:24.41 | somiaj | asarch: oh sorry, that was ment for bambanx ^^ |
| 03:25.04 | bambanx | thanks |
| 03:25.09 | somiaj | bambanx: its possible but not the easiest, and when doing so you have to be careful so you should bakc up your data |
| 03:25.12 | asarch | Anyway. Time to bed |
| 03:25.16 | asarch | Have a nice day guys |
| 03:25.25 | bambanx | gn |
| 03:25.25 | asarch | And good luck to you bambanx |
| 03:25.27 | asarch | :-) |
| 03:25.29 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-125-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 03:25.31 | bambanx | thanks |
| 03:25.37 | asarch | See you later |
| 03:25.41 | bambanx | seeya |
| 03:27.07 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 03:28.04 | *** join/#debian hwq001 (~weiqiu@120.85.39.133) |
| 03:28.21 | *** join/#debian riadh (~riadh@modemcable241.136-57-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:31.00 | riadh | hi, how can I route an ip adresse to my local ip. now it is : me -> router -> internet -> router -> me , how can i make it become me -> me ? |
| 03:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1039] by debhelper |
| 03:34.04 | *** join/#debian wolfpython (~wolf@112.3.255.19) |
| 03:36.13 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-67-45-166.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:38.13 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@220-253-24-16.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 03:38.13 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@unaffiliated/neerolyte) |
| 03:39.40 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@211.81.48.178) |
| 03:44.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1030] by debhelper |
| 03:45.17 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~casosac@190.235.154.208) |
| 03:48.56 | *** join/#debian Tux^verdreifelt (tux@piratenpartei/ni/tux) |
| 03:50.38 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 03:56.27 | *** join/#debian Darkelfjuggalo (~darkelfju@173.217.133.138) |
| 03:58.18 | Darkelfjuggalo | Ok, I'm trying to Install firefox[its more compatible with webpages than Ice Weasel, and my Chromium stopped loading pages altogether that have Flash required elements] Firefox wasnt available from firefox.com in a .deb package and was curious how do i install a .tar.bz2 |
| 03:58.45 | rww | "It's more compatible" --> http://www.geticeweasel.org/useragent/ |
| 03:59.27 | blast_hardcheese | Darkelfjuggalo: iceweasel /is/ firefox |
| 03:59.39 | blast_hardcheese | Read the thing rww just posted, it'll explain the difference |
| 03:59.47 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: you can most like extract the .tar.bz2 and put a copy somewhere. I'd just suggest keeping it in $HOME |
| 04:00.18 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: the compadability has nothign to do with iceweasle vs firefox, just in squeeze the version is slightly old so you need a backport. |
| 04:00.21 | blast_hardcheese | somiaj: Extra unnecessary work, considering Iceweasel is perfectly decently packaged. |
| 04:00.22 | *** join/#debian wolfpython (~wolf@112.3.255.19) |
| 04:00.56 | somiaj | blast_hardcheese: then point to a clear iceweasle 8.0 package backported to squeeze. |
| 04:00.58 | Darkelfjuggalo | Iceweasel loads pages the way my Opera used to[and but a little better than my Current opera is] |
| 04:01.43 | somiaj | wish mozilla.debian.net said what versions release beta and aurora are |
| 04:02.39 | Darkelfjuggalo | Iceweasel is at 8.0 and Firefox is only at 7? |
| 04:02.46 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@2001:470:36:16b:21a:6bff:fed0:5959) |
| 04:03.12 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: sorry I just saw 8.0 in experimental, that just must be the new alpha...yea get 7 |
| 04:03.20 | blast_hardcheese | somiaj: He neither specified squeeze, nor "iceweasle" 8.0 |
| 04:03.44 | Darkelfjuggalo | Somiaj has been dealing with me alot he knows im kn squeeze |
| 04:03.57 | somiaj | blast_hardcheese: yea my bad on the version. Do you know what the most recent backport is |
| 04:05.02 | Darkelfjuggalo | which reminds me of another question, i still have the lenny kernal after my dist-upgrade to sqeeze...i dont use it, but i have it...shouldnt it be removed automatically with the dist-upgrade |
| 04:05.17 | *** part/#debian SashaNeko (~SashaNeko@66-191-104-158.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 04:05.21 | rww | no, it shouldn't. use your favorite package manager to do so when you want |
| 04:06.00 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok my etch to lenny kernal was removed with dist-upgrade to lenny automatically, thats why i was curious |
| 04:06.12 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: basically if you want anything outside of the squeeze repo's it will require a little work. A backport is preferable but if you want firefox proper you should be able to run the binaries in the .bz2 file you downloaded. |
| 04:06.40 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok i extracted it, now how do i run it? |
| 04:06.58 | burd | usually you read the readme first |
| 04:07.41 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: if its a binary tar, just cd into the directory and run the binary... |
| 04:08.08 | *** join/#debian XLV (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 04:08.21 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok i have an issue... i extracted it to home...but idk if it got sorted deeper than that becuase it doesnt load in the home file browser panel |
| 04:08.23 | *** join/#debian Arm (~arm@unaffiliated/grpala) |
| 04:08.39 | *** part/#debian Arm (~arm@unaffiliated/grpala) |
| 04:08.40 | Accelerator | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=php5-fpm is php5-fpm not available in stable? |
| 04:09.05 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: correct, you haven't really isntalled it into teh debian system. so from a terminal you need to cd into the directory you extracted and run the binary. see if it works |
| 04:09.34 | Darkelfjuggalo | nevermind i found it, I misread the file that was extracted[my eyes are heavy] |
| 04:10.13 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: you will have to manually add it to the menu, but run the binary, make sure it works like you want to before you decide to add a menu entry |
| 04:11.35 | Darkelfjuggalo | binary is Firefox-bin? |
| 04:11.48 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: sounds reasonable. I'm not sure since I don't run firefox. |
| 04:13.28 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok so i have the root terminal open, am i going to 'aptitude install firefox-bin' ? |
| 04:13.49 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: NO |
| 04:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1023] by debhelper |
| 04:14.06 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok i want to ask so i dont fuck up |
| 04:14.10 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: don't run as root, just as your user cd /directory/containin/firefox/ |
| 04:14.24 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: as your use just type ./Firefox-bin -- does firefox run for you? |
| 04:14.59 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: you are install this outside of debain, nothign wrong with that but you won't be able to use the debian tools to manage it. If it runs like you like for a desktop no big issue. |
| 04:15.10 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 04:15.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | it says no such file or directory |
| 04:18.09 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: one second...let me see what its called. So you 1) downloaded the .bz2 from mozilla.org and 2) extracted it |
| 04:18.41 | *** join/#debian burd (~burd@71-32-55-1.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 04:18.57 | Darkelfjuggalo | from firefox.com but basically same place |
| 04:19.05 | Darkelfjuggalo | and yes I extracted it |
| 04:19.25 | *** join/#debian sanduz2 (~sanduz2@75-149-186-118-Miami.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 04:21.39 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok my Update manager keeps opening on it's own starts searching for things that need to be updated then freezes i force quit and it does it again a minute or two laater |
| 04:21.40 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: oh its ./firefox-bin |
| 04:22.02 | sanduz2 | are there any good reads or any tips you guys have to harden my debian server (being used as a web server) and make it secure for public use? |
| 04:22.40 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 04:23.17 | *** join/#debian adam8157_ (~adam@203.114.244.88) |
| 04:23.19 | Darkelfjuggalo | i typed that in and it didn't work. should i try './firefox/firefox-bin since i extracted the firefox folder too? |
| 04:23.33 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: yea I was assuming you were in the firefox/ dir, yes |
| 04:23.36 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: you want to run the binary |
| 04:24.21 | Darkelfjuggalo | Im running from terminal i dont know how to set it to a different directory |
| 04:24.24 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@nat223-248-205-109.tvoe.tv) |
| 04:24.42 | *** join/#debian ehouse (1000@greg.csh.rit.edu) |
| 04:25.23 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: the command is 'cd' for change directory. But either way ./firefox/firefox-bin or ./firefox/firefox -- should work |
| 04:26.10 | Darkelfjuggalo | oh ok i didnt understand what the cd was for then you gave me another command before i got that one and thought it was a correction |
| 04:26.23 | *** join/#debian thepro4ever (~thepro4ev@user-373asmo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:26.35 | thepro4ever | yeah but paying doesn't count |
| 04:26.43 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok i have it open. how do i set it so i dont have to open it from terminal every time? |
| 04:27.09 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 04:27.09 | thepro4ever | i want to rename 20 files by stripping off the first 10 characters, how can i do this |
| 04:27.31 | *** join/#debian gry (user@freenode/staff/gry) |
| 04:27.32 | thepro4ever | all the files start with the prefix "Greatest" |
| 04:28.03 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: I don't use gnome, but first you may want to ask if where you have that folder is fine. but you just need to do /home/username/firefox/firefox (just put a full path to the binary and run it) |
| 04:28.04 | *** join/#debian chungbd|away (~chungbd@117.103.228.53) |
| 04:28.14 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: but I don't know how easy it is to add a menu item in gnome. |
| 04:28.50 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: go check out your webpages and such, make sure everythign works like you want befor you decide if you want to stick with that. |
| 04:29.08 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok id be find with a simmple icon on the desk top to click and run |
| 04:32.08 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: well type /home/darkelfju/firefox/firefox in a terminal -- does that run the program? |
| 04:32.58 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: once you have the full path, you can put that in a launcher. A simple shell script in your Desktop directory could work for that or you could go add a custom menu entry |
| 04:33.19 | philipballew | if in squeeze my wifi does not work, but i can get it to work with a kernel higher then 2.6.32 where can i get the driver? |
| 04:34.58 | *** join/#debian Crypticfortune (~Crypticfo@gw.dna.bio.keio.ac.jp) |
| 04:35.15 | *** part/#debian Arrick (~Arrick_@unaffiliated/arrick) |
| 04:35.35 | somiaj | philipballew: install a kernel from backports |
| 04:35.40 | *** join/#debian Fanisk (~Fanisk@80.255.21.66) |
| 04:35.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | how do i get the launcher up? |
| 04:36.07 | *** join/#debian jhulst (~jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) |
| 04:36.56 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: http://paste.debian.net/133776/ -- make a simple file like that and copy it to your Desktop directory, then 'chmod +x /path/to/that/file' -- that should work |
| 04:37.46 | sanduz2 | can someone tell me a little bit about securing a debian server? what kinds of things make someone vulnerable to being compromised? all i have running is a webserver and some database servers, which the public will use. more worried about someone gaining access to the box and reading my scripts than anything. total noob to security so im not sure where to start reading |
| 04:38.16 | Darkelfjuggalo | just a text file? |
| 04:38.23 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: yes |
| 04:38.46 | *** join/#debian helpshae1 (~helpshae@ipu-158.planttel.net) |
| 04:39.33 | *** join/#debian cmyers (~cmyers@ip2.cmyers.org) |
| 04:39.50 | Crypticfortune | I seem to have screwed something up with /etc/crypttab. Using LUKS encrypted root, and I wanted to make it possible to boot by having a USB stick attached at boot, so I added a luks key from a file on the usb stick, and duplicated the one existing line in crypttab changing none to my keyfile (i want it to fallback to interactive entry if usb key's not there), and ran update-initramfs. now it doesn't ask for a key, and just sits there "waiti |
| 04:40.34 | cmyers | so.... say I have a sarge box which I need to build a new kernel for, but I don't want to up the version of libc6 or anything else. can I just clone the kernel source, build from source, and install, or will it likely be incompatible wiht that older libc6 and stuff? |
| 04:42.27 | *** join/#debian guk (chris@69-196-152-203.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 04:42.34 | Crypticfortune | sanduz2: are you worried about securing against users who can walk up and sit down at it? or just remote network access? |
| 04:42.41 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok i save the text doc as 'path' do i need a file type on the end of it to run the cdmod? or is the CDmod going to the 'path' text doc? |
| 04:43.09 | sanduz2 | Crypticfortune, definitely just remote network access |
| 04:43.12 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: just call it something that you want to see on your desktop. |
| 04:43.48 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok im confused |
| 04:43.53 | *** join/#debian zcat[1] (~zcat@ip-118-90-5-251.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) |
| 04:44.41 | Crypticfortune | cmyers: wow...running on fossils ^^ but sadly no idea if that will work. Did sarge even have make-kpkg? =P |
| 04:44.45 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: I'm just having you write a simple launcher script which the only thing it does is run the program you want. So you run the script instead. |
| 04:45.12 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: I don't use gnome so I can't help you beyond this way. |
| 04:45.19 | cmyers | Crypticfortune: I think it did, but if I install the kernel source package it wants to pull a new libc6 |
| 04:45.28 | cmyers | so doing it "the debian way" looks tricksy |
| 04:45.30 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok so i have to put that doc on the desktop and run the CDmod to it |
| 04:45.51 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: correc, the chmod just makes it 'executable' the '+x' so you can run it |
| 04:45.54 | cmyers | is investigating getting a tarball of git on here so I can clone the linux source |
| 04:46.09 | sanduz2 | Crypticfortune, did you have something in mind on how to secure against remote network access? or perhaps a good read for a noob on the subject? |
| 04:47.17 | cmyers | ugh, box is missin a ton of stuff too, no make... |
| 04:48.05 | Darkelfjuggalo | so for a the Desktop and i running 'CDmod +x /home/darkelfjuggalo/desktop/filename' ? |
| 04:48.08 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 04:48.38 | Crypticfortune | sanduz2: start with http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ . Basically I'd guess things you want to look out for are weak passwords (so disable password auth where possible (stick to pubkey)), and whatever web server config you're using (accidentally revealing your precious scripts as plain text or something) |
| 04:49.17 | Crypticfortune | sanduz2: you can play with fail2ban if you're forced to use password auth |
| 04:49.32 | sanduz2 | thank you Crypticfortune |
| 04:49.49 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: correct |
| 04:50.01 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: I thoguht it was a captail D though in Desktop. |
| 04:52.04 | Darkelfjuggalo | it's saying ti doesn't exist |
| 04:52.18 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok thats the problem |
| 04:52.40 | Darkelfjuggalo | i hate this Case Sensitive BS lol |
| 04:53.23 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 04:53.56 | *** join/#debian ilikenwf (~ilikenwf@173-16-7-212.client.mchsi.com) |
| 04:53.59 | Darkelfjuggalo | kool i got it working now, Thank you |
| 04:54.16 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: you get use to it. Tab complition is a wonderful tool |
| 04:54.17 | ilikenwf | any of you know...does debian traceroute and ping ip addresses at boot, by chance, or any services that do? |
| 04:54.37 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: note that you are now in charge of any updates or security holes in that browser, but if it suits your needs there it is. (: |
| 04:54.42 | ilikenwf | because at boot for some reason, my debian server is pinging a handful of seemingly random ip's |
| 04:54.45 | ilikenwf | such as 204.194.238.24 |
| 04:54.56 | ilikenwf | that one's opendns owned |
| 04:55.09 | ilikenwf | the others are mostly akamai |
| 04:55.10 | *** join/#debian tetreb (~tetreb@178-191-253-64.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 04:55.56 | somiaj | ilikenwf: you should check the startup process, but servers are start from scripts in /etc/init.d/<service> the ones that are run depend on the runlevel you go into, 2 is default multiuser in /etc/rc2.d/ (they are links to the actual scripts) |
| 04:56.04 | somiaj | ilikenwf: you can use update-rc.d to manage the serverices |
| 04:56.13 | Darkelfjuggalo | Thats fine... but when i learn of updates, unless the files are a different name all I should have to do is replace the old files with the new, correct? |
| 04:56.23 | *** join/#debian Jordan_U (~jordan@216.57.70.194) |
| 04:56.34 | ilikenwf | i know about that, i've been grepping |
| 04:56.38 | ilikenwf | and have yet to find it anywhere |
| 04:56.50 | ilikenwf | it could be my torrent client i guess, but i'm not sure |
| 04:57.27 | *** join/#debian Arrick (~Arrick_@unaffiliated/arrick) |
| 04:57.34 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: you'll learn, though realize what you did here is outside of debian, so that is why we kept everything in your homedir, your main system is left alone to be managed with apt/dpkg |
| 04:57.45 | ilikenwf | i'm just not used to debian |
| 04:57.52 | ilikenwf | i'm an arch user and not a n00b |
| 04:57.59 | Arrick | hey all, if i want to require a login to see a page on a website, and use basic authentication, what do I set the permissions to on the directory? |
| 04:58.14 | Darkelfjuggalo | well remove the old and run the new...and changes to the file names, i should be able to update the the doc...or will i have to create a new Doc if names are changed? |
| 04:58.22 | somiaj | ilikenwf: there shoudlnt' be anything if there is its in the startup scripts. Its not sending out dhcp requests or somethign like that. |
| 04:58.49 | somiaj | Darkelfjuggalo: just modify that file to refelct the correct path if thigns chnage or you decide to put it somewhere else for orginization |
| 04:59.42 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok kool |
| 05:01.50 | *** join/#debian ring2 (~ring0@unaffiliated/ring0) |
| 05:02.08 | *** join/#debian traumgeist (~tt@unaffiliated/traumgeist) |
| 05:02.15 | Darkelfjuggalo | now i asked a question about the built in updater, it claims i have apt-get or aptitude running but i dont have a terminal open now... and its freezeing trying t get updates... do i need to restart to clear this? |
| 05:02.51 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-24-4-180-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:02.51 | *** join/#debian slvmecha (~slvmecha@c-71-233-237-67.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 05:02.51 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-71-233-237-67.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 05:03.30 | *** join/#debian debuggerboy (~debuggerb@117.196.139.153) |
| 05:03.34 | somiaj | what happens if you run apt-get update or aptitidue update form a terminal |
| 05:03.47 | *** join/#debian TheDaniel0108 (~Daniel010@TouchLay/Founder/Daniel0108) |
| 05:03.50 | *** part/#debian Darkelfjuggalo (~darkelfju@173.217.133.138) |
| 05:04.08 | *** join/#debian Darkelfjuggalo (~darkelfju@173.217.133.138) |
| 05:04.53 | Darkelfjuggalo | did i miss something after my question? |
| 05:04.55 | *** join/#debian TheDaniel0108 (~Daniel010@84.113.191.24) |
| 05:05.06 | *** join/#debian TheDaniel0108 (~Daniel010@TouchLay/Founder/Daniel0108) |
| 05:05.32 | *** join/#debian seidell (~computer@151.84-49-213.nextgentel.com) |
| 05:05.42 | seidell | i failed to install debian yesterday |
| 05:07.06 | *** join/#debian Jewfro-Macabbi (~Jewfro-Ma@206.74.171.47) |
| 05:08.19 | *** join/#debian guk (chris@69-196-152-203.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 05:08.19 | *** part/#debian Darkelfjuggalo (~darkelfju@173.217.133.138) |
| 05:09.01 | *** join/#debian debuggerboy (~debuggerb@117.196.139.153) |
| 05:09.03 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-227-72-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 05:09.40 | *** join/#debian debuggerboy (~debuggerb@117.196.139.153) |
| 05:10.34 | windparadise | hello good morning, pls I have a problem, trying to access my host result in this error message > Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 05:10.37 | windparadise | what can I do pls? |
| 05:11.07 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 05:12.38 | *** join/#debian unseensoul (~animainvi@a79-169-148-46.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 05:13.09 | cromag | windparadise: is it a new install of apache ? |
| 05:13.28 | windparadise | no GNUpanel |
| 05:18.14 | cromag | have you installed it as root ? |
| 05:20.31 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 05:20.32 | *** join/#debian SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@187.11.4.218) |
| 05:20.44 | *** join/#debian Darkelfjuggalo (~darkelfju@173.217.133.138) |
| 05:21.26 | windparadise | yes I did installed it as root |
| 05:22.22 | cromag | can you access it from localhost ? |
| 05:22.38 | Darkelfjuggalo | ok I just restarted my computer to make sure all of my programs were closed out[after closing out of all I saw were running] and I have 74 Updates that fail to install via the update manager, it just freezes, is there away i can close cancel the Update manager and just do it in apt-get/ |
| 05:25.19 | twofish | the latest version of nvidia-kernel-dkms has brought any kind of gui drawing in gnome to a crawl |
| 05:25.35 | *** join/#debian haxi__ (~quassel@lan31-1-81-56-82-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:25.38 | twofish | that includes me typing this in xchat right now |
| 05:25.53 | somiaj | twofish: what version of debian? |
| 05:25.53 | twofish | lags behind my typing bad |
| 05:26.04 | twofish | testing |
| 05:26.17 | *** join/#debian aPpYe (~aPpYe@71-84-56-136.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 05:26.32 | twofish | it's odd, it only seems to affect window / gui element drawing |
| 05:26.38 | twofish | video decoding seems fine |
| 05:27.37 | *** join/#debian M0rrIsC_ (~morrisc@60.248.16.65) |
| 05:27.57 | somiaj | twofish: yea few bugs about that. |
| 05:27.59 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.95.226) |
| 05:28.03 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 05:28.40 | twofish | there's a new version of libx11 and libx11-xcb, I'll see if that fixes it |
| 05:28.43 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 05:28.53 | *** join/#debian caedespeur (~caedespeu@bas15-toronto63-1279474124.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 05:29.12 | Darkelfjuggalo | Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? would this be the update manager using the listed directory? |
| 05:30.20 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 05:31.39 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.129.49) |
| 05:31.46 | Darkelfjuggalo | Any suggestions on stoping my update manager so i can manually get my updates? no part of it is responding |
| 05:32.16 | twofish | nope, that didn't fix it |
| 05:33.31 | bla | Darkelfjuggalo, I'd kill dpkg processes after killing all graphical tools. |
| 05:33.47 | twofish | it's gotta be something with xcb though, gvim is throwing a lot of errors after exit |
| 05:34.05 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable192.189-178-173.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:34.17 | Darkelfjuggalo | how would a do that? |
| 05:35.00 | twofish | E852: The child process failed to start the GUI[xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called |
| 05:35.01 | twofish | [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that. |
| 05:35.14 | twofish | gvim: ../../src/xcb_io.c:273: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed. |
| 05:35.31 | twofish | I bet this related somehow to the rest of the sluggishness |
| 05:36.10 | *** join/#debian ezprezo (~ezprezo@75-163-166-9.clsp.qwest.net) |
| 05:36.11 | Darkelfjuggalo | twofish, might i recommend a pastebin or debian paste zone for that much pasted information? |
| 05:36.36 | twofish | ahaha after that the terminal picks up mouse movements and clicks as escape sequences |
| 05:36.43 | twofish | Darkelfjuggalo yea I was just lazy |
| 05:37.07 | windparadise | hello, pls i have created an additional web folder at /webfiles/ how do I add an http permissions to it so it can be acccessed via a browser? |
| 05:37.28 | somiaj | windparadise: chmod and chown |
| 05:37.31 | windparadise | a group permissions of www-data |
| 05:38.12 | *** join/#debian sm1 (~sm@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 05:39.22 | somiaj | windparadise: though do you mean /webfiles/ or /web_root/webfiles/ |
| 05:40.11 | windparadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.14 | windparadise | I have crated that |
| 05:43.10 | yagoo | somiaj, web_root is iis microsoft |
| 05:43.51 | somiaj | windparadise: I ment did you make this directory on your root filesystem or inside your web directory. |
| 05:44.20 | windparadise | root filesystem |
| 05:44.25 | somiaj | windparadise: if you just made a dir /webfiles did you configure apache to look there? |
| 05:44.34 | *** join/#debian huglester (~quassel@78.157.71.116) |
| 05:44.39 | windparadise | yes |
| 05:44.43 | windparadise | documentroot |
| 05:45.13 | somiaj | windparadise: and last use chown and chmod to give the directory correct primisions, chmod 755 and chown root.www-data should be suficient |
| 05:45.23 | *** join/#debian winux (~winux@174-28-211-227.albq.qwest.net) |
| 05:45.29 | windparadise | ok |
| 05:45.46 | yagoo | windparadise, i believe the default is to use .htpasswd stuff.. u can simplay make an htpasswd file in that subdir |
| 05:46.13 | windparadise | how do I create it can u pls direct? |
| 05:46.18 | yagoo | windparadise, when u mean http permissions, are you talking about webdav? |
| 05:46.24 | windparadise | I mean what shuld i tcontain |
| 05:46.39 | windparadise | apache2 |
| 05:47.18 | yagoo | windparadise, .htpasswd is for authentication |
| 05:47.27 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.95.226) |
| 05:47.37 | yagoo | windparadise, for writing to an http:// path, you can use webdav (webdav is a standard for writing to http) |
| 05:47.55 | yagoo | windparadise, webdav comes with apache |
| 05:48.14 | windparadise | ok |
| 05:49.02 | yagoo | windparadise, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/285 |
| 05:49.15 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 05:49.51 | yagoo | windparadise, cadaver(client) can be used to test webdav from console |
| 05:50.13 | yagoo | windparadise, don't forget to setup that writable path with -> chown www-data <path> |
| 05:51.07 | yagoo | windparadise, i believe there may be webdav extensions for webbrowsers (firefox), but i never checked this |
| 05:51.30 | yagoo | it would make sense.. after webdav is http with extensions |
| 05:51.58 | *** part/#debian Darkelfjuggalo (~darkelfju@173.217.133.138) |
| 05:53.22 | Crypticfortune | yagoo: i don't think webdav itself even requires any http extensions. it's literally just http but not with the "normal" GET / POST verbs |
| 05:54.10 | yagoo | Crypticfortune, webdav means http with write |
| 05:54.22 | yagoo | Crypticfortune, webdav is http+extensions |
| 05:54.39 | twofish | hm, switching to nouveau seems to help it a little, but it's still not as fast as it was two days ago |
| 05:54.55 | twofish | and gvim still cranks when it exits |
| 05:56.30 | *** join/#debian lyte_ (~lyte@114-198-74-209.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:56.47 | somiaj | twofish: if you have the packages in /var/cache/apt/archive you could install the older pcakages that worked for you. Though if you have the newer xorg you may have to downgrade that too cause of the ABI |
| 06:00.16 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 06:01.59 | *** join/#debian Digdilem (~Digdilem@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 06:04.09 | *** join/#debian Infra_3600 (~rdanilov@2002:50fa:ad8b::1) |
| 06:07.36 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:12.06 | *** join/#debian Bop (~Vrooomm@188.125.209.39) |
| 06:12.07 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 06:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1017] by debhelper |
| 06:15.12 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@85.93.121.22) |
| 06:20.09 | *** join/#debian FlowChart (~Miranda@dialin-hb-80-228-60-218.ewetel.net) |
| 06:21.36 | *** join/#debian buribu (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribu) |
| 06:21.37 | *** join/#debian buribux (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribux) |
| 06:21.52 | *** join/#debian [diablo] (~diablo@unaffiliated/miles/x-000000001) |
| 06:21.52 | *** join/#debian notrica (~notrica@2.146.212.198) |
| 06:22.10 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 06:22.31 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@85.93.121.30) |
| 06:24.05 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@151.pool85-57-77.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 06:26.20 | *** join/#debian dekar_ (~dekar@drms-590c5156.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:26.37 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@host182-72-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:26.46 | *** join/#debian QaDeS (~mklaus@frbg-4d028697.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:26.51 | *** join/#debian genieliu (~genieliu@59.78.62.120) |
| 06:27.18 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 06:27.36 | *** join/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-092-073-158-213.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:28.02 | *** join/#debian redrs (~redrs@li230-94.members.linode.com) |
| 06:28.48 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@chello213047159139.33.11.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 06:30.31 | *** join/#debian ayambit (~chatzilla@dev-174.nic.ru) |
| 06:30.43 | *** join/#debian esan (~esan@62.182.216.130) |
| 06:31.35 | *** join/#debian zinserr (~zinserr@cpe-24-165-213-227.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 06:32.41 | *** join/#debian Mneumonic (~Mneu@c-71-205-1-206.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 06:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1032] by debhelper |
| 06:36.26 | *** join/#debian AthomIk (~fran@thenewlan.fr) |
| 06:36.29 | AthomIk | hello |
| 06:37.08 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-80.net-81-220-134.standre.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 06:37.22 | *** join/#debian el_seano (el_seano@reaver.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 06:37.31 | AthomIk | i use gnome, is a problem if i install kdm and remove gdm3 ? wheezy install |
| 06:37.41 | Bushmills | no problem |
| 06:38.09 | *** join/#debian yxa (~lonari@58.185.90.101) |
| 06:38.25 | AthomIk | thanks Bushmills |
| 06:39.04 | yxa | i have a commandline tool to show raid status. Is there a daemon that can poll this command and send email when the keyword changes? |
| 06:40.03 | Bushmills | sounds something a cron job could easily to, in conjunction with a state file written by that commandline tool |
| 06:40.51 | *** join/#debian ack23 (~ack23@190.178.41.82) |
| 06:41.06 | ack23 | join /#hackers |
| 06:41.33 | AthomIk | héhé i see a hacker |
| 06:41.43 | AthomIk | ok thank again have a good day |
| 06:42.20 | Bushmills | try /hackers #join |
| 06:43.00 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@85.93.121.30) |
| 06:44.38 | ack23 | you are right... or #join /hackers... |
| 06:44.44 | ack23 | jajaja |
| 06:44.47 | ack23 | sorry... |
| 06:44.54 | ack23 | good bye |
| 06:44.57 | *** part/#debian ack23 (~ack23@190.178.41.82) |
| 06:45.08 | Bushmills | prefers RPN |
| 06:45.34 | *** join/#debian Virtualmix (~Virtualmi@60-240-178-181.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:45.52 | Crypticfortune | (join 'hackers)() ? |
| 06:46.31 | *** join/#debian jargon- (~dayo@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 06:46.36 | *** join/#debian shakaponk (~kvirc@8-204.192-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 06:46.43 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-xgbxdluxwaglxzau) |
| 06:46.54 | shakaponk | hey guyz, how are ya? |
| 06:47.01 | *** join/#debian ayanes (~ayanes@unaffiliated/ayanes) |
| 06:47.06 | Bushmills | who cares |
| 06:47.37 | shakaponk | can u tell me how to install english language pack on debian 6? whats the name of the package |
| 06:48.30 | streuner | !locales |
| 06:48.30 | dpkg | Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 06:49.17 | shakaponk | dpkg: but first i have to install a language pack? not? |
| 06:49.19 | dpkg | shakaponk: i haven't a clue |
| 06:49.20 | *** join/#debian lorenzosu (~lorenzosu@194.183.20.98) |
| 06:49.32 | *** join/#debian moumoul (~jerem@ANantes-557-1-239-213.w2-8.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:49.44 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 06:49.44 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more info see <infobot>. |
| 06:49.59 | streuner | shakaponk: locale is usually installed by default |
| 06:50.07 | streuner | s/locale/locales/ |
| 06:50.38 | shakaponk | streuner: ok, i had to do it on ubuntu, i'm familiar with the the rest of procedure, at least i hope so |
| 06:50.43 | shakaponk | thx for the input |
| 06:51.01 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@85.93.121.30) |
| 06:51.06 | streuner | shakaponk: please join #ubuntu then |
| 06:51.17 | shakaponk | streuner: no, i'm on debian now |
| 06:51.22 | streuner | ok |
| 06:51.25 | Crypticfortune | shakaponk: a functional english desktop doesn't require any extra packages (unlike, say Japanese), but getting things to spit out english might require you have your locales set correctly (see above) |
| 06:51.41 | shakaponk | locale is installed, but i had to install language-pack-en or something like that |
| 06:52.08 | *** join/#debian jaytaph (~jaytaph@83.232.96.217) |
| 06:52.53 | *** join/#debian tetreb_ (~tetreb@178-191-60-47.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 06:53.18 | *** join/#debian up365 (~up365@c-24-0-133-24.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 06:55.15 | *** join/#debian nardev (~nardev@31.176.243.132) |
| 06:55.25 | *** join/#debian sephii (~sylvain@nibelheim.ch) |
| 06:56.47 | *** join/#debian el_seano (el_seano@reaver.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 06:57.44 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 06:59.30 | *** join/#debian Andrea (~ack23@190.178.41.82) |
| 07:00.11 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@26-81-9.connect.netcom.no) |
| 07:00.16 | *** join/#debian roodie (~evil@5ED637BE.cm-7-7a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 07:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1038] by debhelper |
| 07:04.38 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~daviddiaz@62.43.206.137.static.user.ono.com) |
| 07:07.42 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 07:08.35 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-23.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 07:08.52 | *** join/#debian zinserr (~zinserr@cpe-24-165-213-227.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 07:09.12 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@hexen.cgv.tu-graz.ac.at) |
| 07:13.00 | *** join/#debian xand (~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 07:13.42 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@artis2.probesys.com) |
| 07:17.45 | *** join/#debian kiki1 (~kiki@112.215.45.82) |
| 07:18.21 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@i5E878529.versanet.de) |
| 07:19.21 | *** part/#debian kiki1 (~kiki@112.215.45.82) |
| 07:19.25 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 07:20.29 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-154-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:21.46 | *** join/#debian UltimediaOS1 (~Ultimedia@i5387F1EB.versanet.de) |
| 07:24.36 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@212-198-164-39.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 07:26.31 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-080-228-199-232.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 07:27.56 | *** join/#debian MikeH (~mike@5adcf9af.bb.sky.com) |
| 07:29.02 | *** join/#debian nicoulaj (~nicoulaj@wsg-proxy2.bull.fr) |
| 07:30.35 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av1-84-91-22-6.netvisao.pt) |
| 07:30.53 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@91.213.150.50) |
| 07:31.02 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.34) |
| 07:31.15 | *** join/#debian RingtailedFox (~chatzilla@bas6-windsor12-1177772271.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:31.16 | *** join/#debian zerodeux (~zerodeux@bearstech/zerodeux) |
| 07:31.18 | *** join/#debian bkraptor-w (~bkraptor@unaffiliated/bkraptor) |
| 07:33.52 | *** join/#debian balboah (~balboah@195.178.174.2) |
| 07:34.08 | *** join/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@CMU-786527.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) |
| 07:34.52 | *** join/#debian Martin_ (~Martin@5e098e85.bb.sky.com) |
| 07:35.16 | yagoo | he sauvin u admin here too? Hey guys.. sauvin silenced me for saying I know what u mean. |
| 07:35.17 | yagoo | lol |
| 07:35.24 | yagoo | he hates it when i use the word "u". |
| 07:35.26 | yagoo | geez. |
| 07:35.37 | yagoo | sauvin, time to get a life buddy. |
| 07:36.09 | sauvin | This isn't the venue to discuss matters from another channel. |
| 07:36.25 | *** join/#debian tvm_ (~tvm@85.93.121.30) |
| 07:36.35 | yagoo | lol |
| 07:36.42 | yagoo | sauvin, you really have life issues.. |
| 07:36.50 | yagoo | sauvin, trying to show off your superior.. |
| 07:36.57 | yagoo | you're teenie. |
| 07:37.07 | rww | yagoo: Don't bring drama from other channels in here, please. It's not nice. |
| 07:37.08 | Crypticfortune | yagoo: s/your/you're/ |
| 07:37.10 | *** join/#debian Psi-Jack (~psi-jack@about/linux/staff/psi-jack) |
| 07:37.11 | yagoo | I'm not.. |
| 07:37.13 | yagoo | lol |
| 07:37.15 | rww | yagoo: Yes, you are. |
| 07:37.17 | yagoo | just saying its childish. |
| 07:37.36 | RingtailedFox | yagoo has a point, but... dragging it into other channels is equally childish |
| 07:37.40 | rww | And I'm saying #debian is called #debian because it's about Debian, not about your op problems :) |
| 07:38.00 | yagoo | been helping x number of people here and there, and everywhere.. i use "u" and get silenced.. I'm cool on #debian because i help when i can |
| 07:38.03 | *** part/#debian yagoo (~askme@modemcable192.189-178-173.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:38.20 | syserr0r | i like his persistence, bring him back here someone |
| 07:39.07 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 07:39.29 | seb82 | hey all |
| 07:39.37 | sauvin | s/persistence/puerility/; |
| 07:39.50 | RingtailedFox | brb |
| 07:40.31 | *** join/#debian ffk27 (~ffk27@5249CDE0.cm-4-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 07:42.23 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@85.93.121.30) |
| 07:43.48 | *** part/#debian ronny (~ronny@pida/ronny) |
| 07:47.06 | *** join/#debian MikeH` (~mike@www.jdiuk.com) |
| 07:47.32 | *** join/#debian seidell (~computer@151.84-49-213.nextgentel.com) |
| 07:48.28 | *** join/#debian jaytaph (~jaytaph@83.232.96.217) |
| 07:48.38 | *** join/#debian RingtailedFox (~chatzilla@bas6-windsor12-1177772271.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:49.44 | *** join/#debian merlot (~paul@adsl-76-226-15-83.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:50.08 | *** join/#debian sacredchao (~nike@gateway/tor-sasl/sacredchao) |
| 07:51.58 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:52.04 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@host182-72-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:52.15 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.34) |
| 07:52.43 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@ip-81-23-53-226.ask4internet.com) |
| 07:53.05 | *** join/#debian fossala (~fossala@host-78-149-47-185.as13285.net) |
| 07:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1031] by debhelper |
| 07:54.44 | *** join/#debian dadall (~oser@163.5.162.22) |
| 07:55.37 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 07:55.51 | *** join/#debian DerPate (~dominik@85.183.99.23) |
| 07:56.13 | *** join/#debian valdyn___ (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 07:56.21 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@c-98-244-26-211.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:57.53 | *** join/#debian chasing_Sol (~chasingSo@82.201.135.150) |
| 08:00.43 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 08:03.08 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@m229.dkm.cz) |
| 08:04.17 | *** join/#debian engine64 (~ngine@61.6.221.60) |
| 08:04.44 | *** join/#debian killbillkill (~bill@adsl-48.79.107.21.tellas.gr) |
| 08:05.06 | *** join/#debian marcuspat (~marcuspat@c-71-56-144-183.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 08:05.44 | *** join/#debian Onryo (~Onryo@31.7.57.188) |
| 08:06.56 | Onryo | On my Squeeze VM for some reason "Synapitc Package Manager" won't let me enter anything into the search. Whats up with that? |
| 08:07.16 | Onryo | and there is no update manager? |
| 08:07.34 | *** join/#debian dobber (~dobber@213.169.45.222) |
| 08:09.10 | babilen | ,info update-manager-gnome |
| 08:09.11 | judd | Package update-manager-gnome (gnome, optional) in squeeze/i386: GNOME application that manages software updates. Version: 0.200.5-1; Size: 737.3k; Installed: 1396k; Homepage: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/update-manager/ |
| 08:10.32 | seb82 | I have question while install grub in chroot |
| 08:10.54 | *** join/#debian lissyx (~alex@193.52.208.233) |
| 08:11.03 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@26-81-9.connect.netcom.no) |
| 08:11.36 | seb82 | I have to install grub to the drive I have chrooted... which is outside chroot /dev/sdb... but when i do grub-install /dev/sdb it gives me a /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 08:12.24 | seb82 | btw already have intalled a linux-image... |
| 08:12.47 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.34) |
| 08:12.50 | Bushmills | are /proc and /dev visible in the chroot? |
| 08:13.19 | seb82 | yes... proc is mounted and not empty... /dev/ is full with all possible devices... including /dev/sdb* |
| 08:13.38 | *** join/#debian MrHatter (MrHatter@60-242-213-49.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1041] by debhelper |
| 08:14.21 | seb82 | I know I could try installing it to /dev/sda... but since my internal drive outside chroot is on sda... don't think that's smart |
| 08:14.46 | MrHatter | how can i redirect a file to running xterm ? |
| 08:15.03 | MrHatter | ie output its contents to be displayed in an xterm ? |
| 08:15.29 | Bushmills | MrHatter: cat file |
| 08:15.33 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@2001:660:330f:cc:224:e8ff:fe92:fd7b) |
| 08:16.58 | MrHatter | bushmills, i need to identify the xterm that is running then output to it |
| 08:17.37 | seb82 | Bushmills... any clues? |
| 08:17.44 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~pAt_@p549FA11E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:19.03 | *** join/#debian traumgeist (~tt@unaffiliated/traumgeist) |
| 08:19.10 | Onryo | OK that fixed the update manager thx. Still can not use the search in synaptic packet manager though? |
| 08:19.30 | seb82 | Onryo... what are you looking for? |
| 08:20.01 | Onryo | Anything. I can open Synaptic packet manager but the search is grayed out. |
| 08:21.02 | *** join/#debian frankie (~frankie@klecker.ba.issia.cnr.it) |
| 08:21.05 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 08:21.06 | *** join/#debian Bwaah (bwaah@unaffiliated/bwaah) |
| 08:21.08 | valdyn | MrHatter: type "tty" in that xterm |
| 08:21.16 | *** join/#debian chasing_Sol (~chasingSo@82.201.135.150) |
| 08:21.19 | *** join/#debian frankie (~frankie@lugbari/people/frankie) |
| 08:21.56 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.145.218.143) |
| 08:22.19 | *** join/#debian Tiffy (dynamite@66.90.118.54) |
| 08:22.32 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 08:22.50 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 08:23.04 | valdyn | seb82: bios drives are mapped to devices according to /boot/grub/device.map |
| 08:23.20 | seb82 | kk I'll check it out... |
| 08:23.24 | Bushmills | MrHatter: if the user who opened that term is know, you could use write |
| 08:23.54 | *** join/#debian ixti (~ixti@63.Red-81-33-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1047] by debhelper |
| 08:24.23 | *** join/#debian monk (~aknm@unaffiliated/aknm) |
| 08:24.36 | Bushmills | seb82: ah, "outside chroot" ... grub-install has an option to allow specifying the drive where it's installed to |
| 08:25.02 | MrHatter | valdyn, great thx |
| 08:26.29 | Bushmills | also read about the --root-directory option when specifying installation drive |
| 08:27.03 | *** join/#debian xJaM_ (~xJaM@cpe-46-164-25-154.dynamic.amis.net) |
| 08:27.05 | seb82 | in or outside? |
| 08:27.11 | *** join/#debian bzrk (~bzrk@baal.lab6.org) |
| 08:27.23 | *** join/#debian Kakadu (~kakadu@217.71.235.218) |
| 08:27.48 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~user@118.174.46.190) |
| 08:27.50 | *** join/#debian ralfgro_ (~rg@p15145560.pureserver.info) |
| 08:27.53 | Bushmills | to the device associated with the device file visible in /dev |
| 08:28.05 | *** join/#debian jaggz1 (~brandon@user-118biqe.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:28.21 | *** join/#debian efaistos (~efaistos@ns303084.ovh.net) |
| 08:28.21 | *** join/#debian erikja (~erikja@188.182.120.72) |
| 08:28.24 | *** join/#debian batrick (~batrick@nmap/developer/batrick) |
| 08:29.04 | seb82 | Bushmills... the device.map in chroot says that there's a hd0 and hd1... but inside chroot I have no clue on which is which |
| 08:29.32 | *** join/#debian gentz (ilab@ancient.webfoundation.net) |
| 08:29.42 | Bushmills | neither do i. i suppose you'll have to ask the person who made /dev inside chroot visible to you |
| 08:29.48 | gentz | I want to download the old version of the amarok package 1.4. How can I do this with aptitude? |
| 08:29.55 | seb82 | MAKEDEV generic... |
| 08:29.58 | Bushmills | especially, what he did to show those devices there |
| 08:30.26 | Bushmills | mostly people simply bind mount the devices in /dev from outside the chroot |
| 08:30.37 | seb82 | Bushmills... I was told to use MAKEDEV |
| 08:31.09 | valdyn | seb82: its the same devices as outside the chroot |
| 08:31.11 | Bushmills | that's not what i'd tell you |
| 08:31.33 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.34) |
| 08:32.15 | seb82 | with a former attempt... my external drive became sda1... can i maybe assume that it is again... also inside chroot? |
| 08:32.20 | *** join/#debian evil-man (~outsider@insider-mail.icf.org.ru) |
| 08:32.50 | Bushmills | assumptions are good when they turn out to be true |
| 08:33.00 | seb82 | I'll try |
| 08:33.49 | seb82 | when I try grub-install /dev/sdb my external makes no noise... when I try with /dev/sda it makes noise and the indicator flashes |
| 08:33.51 | Bushmills | but mostly when the fit hits the chan, it's because of wrong assumptions |
| 08:34.42 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 08:37.22 | seb82 | setting --root-directory has no avail either... |
| 08:38.15 | gentz | Is it ok to install a lenny package in squeeze? |
| 08:39.27 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 08:40.05 | *** join/#debian Zap-W (~Zap-W@95.211.21.37) |
| 08:40.06 | Zap-W | Hi |
| 08:40.07 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-92-252-53-254.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 08:40.13 | *** join/#debian gezgin (~gezgin@81.214.25.132) |
| 08:40.31 | oobe | how do you spell qwerty? |
| 08:40.47 | Bushmills | gentz: there's no general "yes, it's ok". in general, it is not ok, but sometimes, you may succeed. depends on the package dependencies. |
| 08:41.20 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 08:41.21 | Bushmills | so the generic "is it ok" will have to be answered with "no, it is not" |
| 08:42.34 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~miow@nat223-248-205-109.tvoe.tv) |
| 08:44.01 | *** join/#debian streuner (foobar@mnhm-4d01a670.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:44.59 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@ppp121-45-246-117.lns20.per2.internode.on.net) |
| 08:45.07 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 08:45.20 | *** join/#debian NodeX (~nodex@node1.nodex.co.uk) |
| 08:46.23 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@80.30.109.209) |
| 08:47.11 | seb82 | oobe, depends on the country you're in.. |
| 08:48.14 | *** join/#debian Bzek (~SK@access-46-42-16-55.kmtn.ru) |
| 08:48.41 | oobe | I was only joking though |
| 08:48.51 | oobe | it was a nonsense question |
| 08:49.00 | Bzek | Hello. I've changed uuid of sda1 by tune2fs. But in /proc/mounts I have an old uuid. It is available to change it in /proc/mounts without rebooting? |
| 08:49.19 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 08:49.27 | seb82 | oobe... give a french an American keyboard and ask him to type qwerty... |
| 08:49.59 | oobe | yea but even if they had dvorak it would still be spelt the same |
| 08:50.03 | sauvin | This French person is typing qwerty mostly by just ignoring accents. |
| 08:50.05 | oobe | qwerty is qwerty |
| 08:50.16 | seb82 | on a french keyboard it be azerty |
| 08:50.25 | oobe | ah ok |
| 08:50.37 | oobe | didnt know that |
| 08:50.38 | seb82 | they use azerty keyboards... |
| 08:50.45 | seb82 | i lived a belgian for a short period |
| 08:50.49 | oobe | I always learn something new when I troll |
| 08:51.09 | seb82 | true |
| 08:51.31 | oobe | I am thinking about making a twitter account called Internet Troll |
| 08:51.34 | sauvin | It makes sense the keyboards would be different because the relative frequencies of various lettres would vary between languges. |
| 08:51.36 | seb82 | lol |
| 08:51.37 | sauvin | languages, even. |
| 08:52.08 | seb82 | see how ya think bout an arabic or scandinavic keyboard... |
| 08:52.27 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 08:52.37 | seb82 | lol |
| 08:52.46 | sauvin | With those funny "o" accents above the "a"? No, thanks. |
| 08:52.57 | *** join/#debian helly (~helly@AOrleans-156-1-91-95.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:53.01 | seb82 | yeah... |
| 08:53.10 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:446a:e3a0:fa5e:e181) |
| 08:53.20 | seb82 | the first ever version of Linux only had a Finnish keyboard layout... |
| 08:53.53 | sauvin | Yes, but it didn't have much of a userland. |
| 08:54.03 | seb82 | no but still it's cool |
| 08:54.20 | Onryo | I am using squeeze (arch). In synaptic package manager the "quick search" is grayed out. I ONLY use main repos. Says the installed ver. of synaptic is 0.70~pre1+b1 |
| 08:54.50 | *** join/#debian colo-work (~colo@86.59.8.78) |
| 08:54.57 | Onryo | 0.70~pre1-b1 looks like a weird name for a ver. Is that normal? |
| 08:55.09 | seb82 | yeah |
| 08:55.32 | seb82 | looks normal to me... |
| 08:56.03 | Onryo | seb82 any idea why "quick search" would be grayed out? I mean my Deb. testing (Wheezy) box works just fine. |
| 08:57.12 | *** join/#debian jaakkos (~jvsalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi) |
| 08:58.00 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:58.21 | *** join/#debian seidell (~computer@4.84-49-177.nextgentel.com) |
| 08:58.29 | seb82 | Onryo... you're version is correct on debian stable |
| 08:58.55 | seb82 | where do you see this "quick search"? |
| 08:59.17 | seb82 | nvm I see it now... |
| 08:59.22 | Onryo | seb82 if you use the GUI synaptic packet manager |
| 08:59.27 | Onryo | seb82 kk |
| 08:59.50 | seb82 | mine seems to work properly... i do have to ask... did you run synaptic as root? |
| 09:00.17 | Onryo | seb82 nope just with a sudo user |
| 09:00.40 | seb82 | that's about the same... |
| 09:01.15 | seb82 | did you try reinstalling it Onryo? |
| 09:01.44 | *** join/#debian chattr (~mike@155.164.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 09:01.46 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 09:01.58 | Onryo | seb82 I just tried reinstalling synaptic but no dice. |
| 09:02.30 | Onryo | seb82 I am using the arch version though. Think that could be the problem? |
| 09:03.00 | seb82 | by all means, wot is the arch version? |
| 09:03.50 | Onryo | seb82 does not care if you are on i386 amd etc. |
| 09:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1056] by debhelper |
| 09:05.27 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~Arno@unaffiliated/metalfoo) |
| 09:06.04 | Onryo | seb82 ahh...I figure something out here. Prolly better not to use arch for this server since there is a i386 squeeze. |
| 09:06.38 | *** join/#debian newyork (~newyork@p4FFDD214.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:07.37 | babilen | Onryo: What exactly is the arch version? Are you, mayhaps, trying to say that you (somehow?) installed an ARCH Linux package? |
| 09:08.20 | *** join/#debian slacks (~slacks@p508F6F3A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:08.25 | babilen | recommends not to do that, but to use the standard version in the Debian repositories |
| 09:08.52 | *** join/#debian rrrreimer (~john@pptp-002.triple-a.uni-kl.de) |
| 09:09.02 | seb82 | yuppers go with Debian repo's |
| 09:09.15 | rrrreimer | \join #debian-mentors |
| 09:09.17 | babilen | is still curious what Onryo actually meant/did |
| 09:09.50 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@artis2.probesys.com) |
| 09:09.58 | seb82 | also curious... |
| 09:10.00 | Onryo | babilen, I used the multi-arch CD image http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 09:11.01 | babilen | Onryo: And installed i386? That shouldn't matter - It is just that the installer supports the installation of both architectures. |
| 09:11.40 | *** join/#debian Neonlajt (~Neonlajt@207.79-160-109.customer.lyse.net) |
| 09:11.48 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 09:11.57 | Onryo | babilen, yeah I know that is why I wanted to give it a spin. I really don't think that is causing this problem. |
| 09:12.15 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 09:12.30 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 09:12.48 | babilen | ... whatever the problem is :) |
| 09:12.53 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-impccwfnixqtmbtc) |
| 09:13.30 | Onryo | babilen, Problem is that the "Quick Search" in Synaptic packet manager is grayed out. |
| 09:14.32 | seb82 | Onryo... what's on your sources.list? |
| 09:14.36 | Onryo | babilen, A fresh install with only main repos from Debain. |
| 09:14.46 | babilen | Hmm, that one shouldn't really require root privileges, so it is most likely not a permission problem. Try starting it as root (gksu/gksudo) regardless of that assumption and test though. I also never use synaptic, so am not really knowledgeable about it. |
| 09:15.54 | seb82 | Im gonna try to boot the drive with the half installed grub... |
| 09:15.56 | Onryo | seb82, deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main + deb-src |
| 09:16.07 | babilen | Onryo: Do you see any error messages when you start synaptic from the command line? Anything useful in ~/.xsession-errors? Have you checked Debian's bug tracker for reports? Have you searched the interwebs for reports of similar problems? |
| 09:16.34 | seb82 | Onryo du talar svenska? |
| 09:16.47 | *** join/#debian niadh (~niadh@94-195-250-107.zone9.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:17.16 | babilen | Onryo: Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy", "dpkg -l synaptic|tail -n 1" and whatever output Synaptic generates when you start it from the CLI? |
| 09:17.37 | Onryo | seb82, yup, I live down in Linköping =) |
| 09:17.38 | babilen | seb82: Even if it would be preferred to stick with English here. |
| 09:18.02 | seb82 | I know babilen... |
| 09:18.11 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~5678@host86-134-121-232.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:18.19 | Onryo | babilen, he just asked me if I speak Swedish. Thats all. |
| 09:18.25 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-246-239-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 09:19.10 | babilen | Onryo: I know (I could read that) |
| 09:19.27 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 09:19.44 | seb82 | babilen, are you swedish then? |
| 09:19.50 | *** join/#debian nicoulaj_ (~nicoulaj@wsg-proxy2.bull.fr) |
| 09:19.53 | babilen | Onryo: The output of "apt-get -f install" (do *not* install these yet) would also be interesting. |
| 09:20.08 | Onryo | babilen seb82 I am starting to wonder if we know each other IRL =) |
| 09:20.11 | babilen | seb82: German (but lets take this chatter to #debian-offtopic if you are interested to pursue it) |
| 09:20.21 | Onryo | babilen, ahh |
| 09:21.21 | seb82 | Onryo... unless you'd live in the UK... |
| 09:21.22 | Onryo | babilen, seb82 German English and Swedish whatever. My Quick Search in synaptic is still borked =) |
| 09:21.53 | Onryo | seb82 Linköping |
| 09:22.00 | *** join/#debian xi4oyin (~xi4oyin@125.78.11.114) |
| 09:22.22 | seb82 | to know me in irl... |
| 09:22.42 | babilen | Onryo: yes, please paste the output of the commands I asked you about, try the other steps I suggested and garnish the whole thing with the output of "dpkg -l libxapian22" :) |
| 09:23.47 | babilen | Onryo: Also "dpkg -l apt-xapian-index" ... /me waits for the output |
| 09:24.42 | Onryo | babilen OK one sec Ill paste the output on ... what ... pastebin? |
| 09:25.08 | babilen | Onryo: Oh, I guess you just have to install "apt-xapian-index" (which is recommended by synaptic) to get search capabilities. Run "apt-get install apt-xapian-index" as root on the command line. |
| 09:25.30 | Onryo | babilen, doing so now |
| 09:26.08 | babilen | Have you disabled the installation of recommended packages or was it like this from the start? Try installing the apt-xapian-index first and paste the output of the commands if that does not fix the issue |
| 09:26.35 | *** join/#debian ukl (~ukl@f053122092.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:26.41 | Onryo | babilen, kk |
| 09:27.14 | seb82 | darn, I need to umount the external drive but it naggs bout it still being in use... already exited chroot and there's no window open to it.. |
| 09:27.33 | *** join/#debian eternity13 (~eternity1@93.177.247.54) |
| 09:27.53 | *** join/#debian newbie22 (~newbie22@adsl-66-157-232-234.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 09:28.05 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:d810:f73f:2264:ff17) |
| 09:28.23 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.129.49) |
| 09:29.12 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.77.241.151) |
| 09:29.50 | Onryo | pastebin.com/AnVcd5x9 |
| 09:30.23 | Bushmills | umount your /dev and/or /proc mounts |
| 09:30.27 | babilen | Onryo: So, installing apt-xapian-index and restarting synaptic did not help? |
| 09:30.56 | babilen | Or was it already installed? |
| 09:31.35 | seb82 | thx Bushmills |
| 09:31.56 | Onryo | babilen Ill restart synaptic and give it a go. No apt-xapian-index was not installed. This is the what I got as the output though pastebin.com/AnVcd5x9 |
| 09:32.11 | *** part/#debian niadh (~niadh@94-195-250-107.zone9.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:32.41 | *** join/#debian vazel (~wizl@ahrinia.net) |
| 09:32.58 | Onryo | babilen, F?#¤% yeah it works now. Thank you!!!! |
| 09:33.07 | seb82 | babilen is good |
| 09:33.22 | Onryo | babilen, thx tons! |
| 09:33.35 | babilen | Onryo: You are welcome -- Did you disable the installation of recommended packages or was it like this from the start? If the latter: How exactly did you install Debian? |
| 09:34.07 | Onryo | babilen, I might have. I was working on 5 machines at once. |
| 09:34.21 | Onryo | babilen, my bad if I did. |
| 09:35.10 | Onryo | babilen, I have a phobia for blobs and anything that is not main. I might have fiddled with something. |
| 09:35.14 | babilen | It is typically a good idea to install recommended packages unless you *know* that you don't want them. |
| 09:36.15 | Onryo | babilen, I might have cut a little to deep with my octum razor when I did my install. |
| 09:37.18 | babilen | Onryo: Well, check the recommends/suggests of packages that contain software which missed functionality in that case. And don't cut that deep, there is typically a good reasons why those packages are recommended. |
| 09:37.26 | babilen | s/missed/misses |
| 09:38.26 | seb82 | Bushmills... i was never able to do mount /dev/sda1 / but now it works... |
| 09:38.53 | seb82 | grub-install seems to work now |
| 09:39.24 | *** join/#debian dadall (~oser@163.5.158.70) |
| 09:39.34 | Onryo | babilen, At least when it comes to Debian. I have an Ubuntu machine that almost made me puke my guts out with "its" recommended junk. Found a good home with Debian. Really like that the kernel is clean of blob. Huge plus |
| 09:39.46 | *** join/#debian JPT (~JPT@dslc-082-082-111-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:40.21 | *** join/#debian fir31ight (~fir31ight@gateway/tor-sasl/fir31ight) |
| 09:41.54 | *** join/#debian carniz (~mikael@95.244.236.45) |
| 09:42.40 | seb82 | I'm reinstalling grub but I'm a The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
| 09:43.11 | seb82 | *i'm getting a |
| 09:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1063] by debhelper |
| 09:45.30 | babilen | Onryo: Great, hope you enjoy your stay :) |
| 09:46.27 | *** join/#debian atmark (~atmark@fedora/atmark) |
| 09:50.41 | Onryo | babilen, There really isn't any other GNU/Linux out there that has well maintained repos with a blob free mentality. The only thing I am a little worried about is the future of Gnome. Looking at 3.2 makes me think of "trendy" macs and tablets. |
| 09:51.38 | Onryo | babilen, I hate clouding, Unity and all that other junk on my machine. |
| 09:52.24 | babilen | Onryo: You might be happy to hear that a gnome-session-fallback package exists. |
| 09:52.29 | babilen | ,info gnome-session-fallback --release sid |
| 09:52.29 | judd | No package named 'gnome-session-fallback' was found in sid/i386. |
| 09:52.40 | babilen | ,info gnome-session-fallback --release experimental |
| 09:52.43 | judd | Package gnome-session-fallback (gnome, optional) in experimental/i386: GNOME Session Manager - GNOME fallback session. Version: 3.0.2-2; Size: 105.4k; Installed: 180k |
| 09:53.18 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 09:54.01 | Onryo | babilen, That is really good news. The only future I can see (that works for me) is if Gnome forks though. In 5 years I can't be using Gnome 2.32.x |
| 09:54.17 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.145.218.143) |
| 09:55.23 | *** join/#debian CrEddy (~scuttock@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 09:55.58 | *** join/#debian jelly (~jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 09:56.15 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-dgqfbtivvdwoyesa) |
| 09:56.29 | *** join/#debian streuner (foobar@mnhm-4d019921.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 09:57.58 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 10:02.29 | seb82 | guys, how can I install a working grub when I get the message that /boot/grub/stage1 cannot be ready correctly? |
| 10:02.58 | *** join/#debian gryAway (user@freenode/staff/gry) |
| 10:03.30 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@133.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 10:05.10 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 10:05.29 | *** join/#debian vander1 (~vander@188.122.8.14) |
| 10:05.34 | *** part/#debian vander1 (~vander@188.122.8.14) |
| 10:05.43 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@pool-72-65-125-110.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) |
| 10:06.20 | seb82 | great my entire system has been screwed up... |
| 10:06.29 | seb82 | because debian is now messing up hd0 with hd1 |
| 10:07.17 | sauvin | legacy grub uses hd1 where grub2 uses hd0 |
| 10:07.20 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 10:07.21 | *** join/#debian mfladischer (~fladische@2a01:4f8:150:1ffe:302c:30ff:fe26:b50b) |
| 10:08.00 | jimcooncat | installed minimal squeeze (no desktop) on virtualbox to try out kexi. I then installed kexi with dependencies, but X did not start. What am I doing wrong, or what am I to install? |
| 10:08.01 | *** join/#debian zamba (marius@flage.org) |
| 10:10.08 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa) |
| 10:10.36 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422374.home.otenet.gr) |
| 10:12.29 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 10:12.50 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~pAt_@p549FA11E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:13.34 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Q@mail.dnavision.be) |
| 10:15.02 | *** join/#debian jsoft (~jsoft@60-234-234-240.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 10:15.06 | *** join/#debian jsoft (~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft) |
| 10:15.18 | jsoft | Erasing data for an ecrypted partition. *sigh* |
| 10:15.28 | jsoft | 3% after like 5 minutes is slow :( |
| 10:16.45 | *** join/#debian orak3l_ (~orak3l@unaffiliated/orak3l) |
| 10:17.12 | *** join/#debian albech (~albech@61.7.177.21) |
| 10:17.32 | *** join/#debian Bombo (~bombo@dslb-084-060-238-182.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:18.04 | Bombo | what was the command to install debian from debian on a second partition or hard disk? |
| 10:18.28 | petemc | debootstrap |
| 10:18.32 | *** join/#debian dadall (~oser@163.5.174.231) |
| 10:18.35 | *** join/#debian bittin (~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se) |
| 10:19.26 | Bombo | petemc: ah thx |
| 10:19.32 | *** join/#debian bittin (~bittin@unaffiliated/bittin) |
| 10:19.41 | babilen | !tell Bombo about debootstrap |
| 10:20.00 | Bombo | thx again ;) |
| 10:21.09 | *** join/#debian Ramattack (~Ramattack@ks200575.kimsufi.com) |
| 10:21.35 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 10:22.54 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@31.172.183.249) |
| 10:22.54 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 10:22.57 | *** join/#debian merkelis (EP@78-60-41-156.static.zebra.lt) |
| 10:23.32 | jimcooncat | never mind, installing the kde package (ugh) |
| 10:24.08 | simonlnu | encrypted fses: for when you're nostalgic for slow hdd performance |
| 10:24.29 | *** join/#debian jm_ (jm@epicsol.org) |
| 10:24.33 | *** join/#debian edog (~edog@alcotrash.org) |
| 10:25.12 | *** join/#debian flamingspinach (~hahaohwow@wikipedia/flamingspinach) |
| 10:29.25 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:29.33 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@dslc-082-083-134-115.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:29.39 | *** join/#debian xand (~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 10:29.41 | *** join/#debian dschoepe (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 10:30.06 | *** join/#debian martianixor (~martianix@unaffiliated/martiancode) |
| 10:32.24 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@187.171.150.217) |
| 10:33.15 | *** join/#debian Metastaz (~Noisia@81-67-210-33.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:33.17 | *** join/#debian sh_sh (~sh_sh@p5B170D08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1074] by debhelper |
| 10:38.04 | *** join/#debian wolfpython (~wolf@112.3.255.86) |
| 10:39.35 | *** join/#debian yaroslav_h (~yaroslav_@95-37-29-139.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 10:40.13 | *** part/#debian yaroslav_h (~yaroslav_@95-37-29-139.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 10:42.47 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 10:43.03 | *** join/#debian newbie22 (~newbie22@adsl-66-157-223-29.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 10:44.54 | zamba | hi there! what's the best practice way of configuring the firewall on debian? |
| 10:45.05 | zamba | basically i want the rules to be reenabled when i boot up |
| 10:46.06 | tomodachi | zamba: well i have have a lsb compliant script that run the firewall rules when i boot up. |
| 10:46.21 | zamba | lsb? |
| 10:46.21 | *** join/#debian MarKsaitis (~MarKsaiti@94-30-69-205.xdsl.murphx.net) |
| 10:46.37 | *** join/#debian wolfpython (~wolf@112.3.255.19) |
| 10:46.45 | babilen | zamba: You could use a pre-up hook as detailed in http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or use iptables-persistent |
| 10:47.36 | biz | zamba: look into shorewall, it's a powerful configuration tool for iptables/iptables-restore/ip/tc/... |
| 10:47.46 | zamba | biz: nah, i don't want an abstraction tool |
| 10:47.49 | *** part/#debian merlin1991 (~merlin@Maemo/community/cssu/merlin1991) |
| 10:47.57 | babilen | zamba: I haven't used iptables-persistent yet, so you should check how it can be configured. I would recommend a tight coupling of interfaces and iptables. In particular you should make sure that the firewall is in place *before* the interfaces are active. |
| 10:47.57 | zamba | biz: i prefer editing my own firewall rules |
| 10:48.39 | zamba | i basically just edit /etc/iptables/rules |
| 10:48.40 | CodeKipod | can anyone recommend a good GUI (web preferred) for iptables? |
| 10:48.56 | babilen | CodeKipod: gvim? ;) |
| 10:48.59 | CodeKipod | i was checking vyatta but its not really open source its actually a rather expensive commercial product |
| 10:49.37 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 10:49.46 | CodeKipod | babilen, u got try gvim on enterprise fw with thousands of rules |
| 10:50.01 | *** join/#debian peppe (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 10:50.22 | *** join/#debian dadall (~oser@163.5.174.231) |
| 10:50.28 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 10:51.17 | Bombo | hmm |
| 10:51.19 | Bombo | chroot: failed to run command „mount“: Exec format error |
| 10:51.35 | Bombo | i'm trying to debootstrap a 64bit squeeze on a 32bit squeeze |
| 10:51.55 | Bombo | is that possible anyway? |
| 10:52.02 | th0r | CodeKipod: there are several firewall gui's...gufw, firestarter, etc, but I know of no web interface. But to be honest, I wouldn't want one...just ssh into an internal server and do the maintenance using x-forwarding |
| 10:52.29 | Bombo | debootstrap said W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/2 mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 10:52.42 | babilen | CodeKipod: #netfilter might be aware of some -- Are you looking for something like fwbuilder? |
| 10:53.44 | *** join/#debian mrtnt86 (~mrtnt86@martint.data.ee) |
| 10:54.30 | zamba | i want to enable a iptables rule and automatically revert back if it does something unforeseen.. what's the easiest way of doing that? |
| 10:54.39 | zamba | i was thinking of just using 'at' |
| 10:55.18 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 10:55.26 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@chello085216139214.chello.sk) |
| 10:55.47 | seb82 | still in battle with grub... grub-install states it can't read /boot/grub/stage1... |
| 10:56.00 | *** join/#debian nat_znc (~nat3@122.155.0.146) |
| 10:58.58 | seb82 | and ofcourse without it, I can't boot the drive |
| 10:59.25 | mrtnt86 | I have a following iptables INPUT chain configuration: http://pastebin.com/xUis85C0 For some reason I'm not able to connect to address 134.76.12.5:80. Then I thought that I'll add this host specifically to INPUT chain, but if I do "iptables -A INPUT -s 134.76.12.5 -j ACCEPT" this rule appears to the end of the INPUT chain. How to add this rule as the third one to the INPUT chain? |
| 11:00.21 | biz | zamba: iptables-apply implements that |
| 11:01.37 | biz | zamba: if you want more control than a simple timeout, you can always script iptables-save/restore |
| 11:02.34 | Bombo | hmmm is it possible to boot into a stage1 debootstrapped linux? |
| 11:02.56 | Bombo | does stage1 install a kernel? |
| 11:03.28 | seb82 | Bombo, I did it before within chroot... which was debootstrapped... |
| 11:03.46 | zamba | biz: ah, sweet.. thanks |
| 11:04.10 | Bombo | seb82: i cant chroot because i'm on 32bit and trying to debootstrap a 64bit squeeze |
| 11:04.26 | seb82 | you can't run 64bit on 32bit |
| 11:04.44 | Bombo | thats why i was asking if i can boot into it |
| 11:04.51 | Bombo | to finish the second stage |
| 11:04.54 | seb82 | no only 32bit on 64bit |
| 11:05.30 | rozie | Bombo: you can tell debootstrap to install kernel |
| 11:05.31 | Bombo | when i got a kernel installed at stage1 i could boot it |
| 11:05.41 | Bombo | i have grub installed on the machine |
| 11:05.53 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:05.58 | seb82 | okay... can you chroot the machine? |
| 11:06.03 | rozie | install kernel in chroot, adjust grub, reboot |
| 11:06.21 | Bombo | seb82: no, because i can't chroot into a 64bit from 32bit. |
| 11:06.28 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 11:07.00 | Bombo | chroot is not possible because it probably tries to run the 64bit bash |
| 11:07.03 | *** join/#debian speakman (~daniel@unaffiliated/speakman) |
| 11:07.21 | rozie | Bombo: IIRC I installed 64bit kernel on 32 bit system, then debootstraped temporary 64bit system, then, from it, I installed final 64bit system |
| 11:07.38 | speakman | Is it really true 'dpkg' can't verify the signing key of installed packages as told in http://lwn.net/Articles/461237/ ? |
| 11:07.42 | rozie | for sure I changed architecture remotely with debootstrap |
| 11:08.43 | Bombo | rozie: hmm |
| 11:08.53 | Bombo | maybe this? debootstrap --foreign --include=linux-image-2.6-amd64 --arch amd64 squeeze /mnt/2/ ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ |
| 11:09.23 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~casosac@190.235.154.208) |
| 11:10.17 | Bombo | grub, maybe 32bit? can boot into 64bit kernel, can't it? |
| 11:10.37 | rozie | yes, you can use 32bit grub to boot... anything |
| 11:11.15 | Bombo | and when its possible, i can tell grup to use /mnt/1 which is sda2 as root, right, and i will get a bash for running stage2? |
| 11:11.45 | rozie | give it a try |
| 11:11.59 | Bombo | its still downloading the kernel ;) |
| 11:12.00 | rozie | hope it's testing enviroment and you have physical access |
| 11:12.12 | Bombo | yep |
| 11:13.06 | rozie | you can also try to install amd64 kernel on 32-bit |
| 11:13.21 | Bombo | its the machine i'm chatting on, so when i'm rebooting to test it i cant report here hehe |
| 11:13.37 | Bombo | you mean without debootstrap |
| 11:13.44 | rozie | then, after reboot, you should be able to chroot into 64bit enviroment |
| 11:14.27 | rozie | IIRC this is the way I used |
| 11:15.26 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@cpc12-rdng20-2-0-cust598.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:15.29 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 11:16.12 | seb82 | rozie, wot could one do when inside chroot, you can't install grub due to a stage1 issue... |
| 11:16.31 | *** join/#debian Gottaname (~Gottaname@bb121-6-145-58.singnet.com.sg) |
| 11:18.00 | *** join/#debian ozux (~ozux@modgunn.ext.hb.se) |
| 11:18.56 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@ip-88-212-34-153.antik.sk) |
| 11:19.01 | *** join/#debian Jakky (~brevit@e181205020.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:19.13 | rozie | seb82: of course you can |
| 11:19.33 | rozie | IIRC you need to have dev and proc mounted before chrooting |
| 11:19.47 | *** join/#debian corretico (~luis@201.201.44.82) |
| 11:19.49 | seb82 | they are... /dev/sdb1 and /proc is mounted |
| 11:19.56 | seb82 | even inside chroot |
| 11:20.07 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.149.34) |
| 11:20.13 | rozie | provide output of mount |
| 11:20.29 | *** join/#debian Rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 11:20.35 | rozie | from system outside chroot, before chrooting |
| 11:21.03 | seb82 | inside: /dev/sdb1 on / type ext2 (rw) |
| 11:21.03 | seb82 | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 11:21.28 | rozie | outside? |
| 11:22.14 | Jakky | I am about to install Debian stable on a Core2Duo Desktop with 2GB of RAM. What would you suggest, i386 or amd64? |
| 11:22.28 | seb82 | rozie, http://paste.debian.net/133806/ |
| 11:22.30 | seb82 | brb |
| 11:22.43 | *** join/#debian PhoenixSTF (~rudi@78.29.167.223) |
| 11:23.28 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-230-79-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 11:26.06 | *** join/#debian slvmecha (~slvmecha@c-71-233-237-67.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 11:26.10 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@92.35.64.77) |
| 11:26.17 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-xhpttzmnpyahunmx) |
| 11:26.34 | *** join/#debian djura-san (~djura-san@unaffiliated/djura-san) |
| 11:28.17 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@178-24-222-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 11:29.39 | *** join/#debian waka (~wakariera@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 11:29.45 | *** join/#debian bregma (~stephenw@74.198.165.65) |
| 11:30.07 | *** join/#debian haxi__ (~quassel@lan31-1-81-56-82-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:30.57 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-ztpotkuzxtysvpym) |
| 11:32.26 | djura-san | o/ |
| 11:33.04 | rozie | seb82: I cannot see /proc and /dev/ binded to chroot |
| 11:33.33 | rozie | Jakky: I'd go amd64, but check current flash status if you plan to use it |
| 11:33.38 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 11:34.03 | rozie | adobe often changes status of support for linux ;-/ |
| 11:34.34 | Jakky | rozie: apart from flash, why would you choose amd64? |
| 11:35.05 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.8.51) |
| 11:35.13 | rozie | better usage of hardware (processor) |
| 11:35.41 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-rxbxvurfpodumncx) |
| 11:35.44 | *** join/#debian xand (~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 11:36.10 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@133.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 11:38.03 | *** join/#debian chriswaterguy (~chatzilla@180.252.105.123) |
| 11:38.48 | rozie | Jakky: TBH, have most machines on x86 from historical reasons, but my wife's laptop is amd64 and works fine |
| 11:39.29 | rozie | flash works, nvidia driver works. just works 2 GB of RAM |
| 11:39.45 | rozie | but never benchmarked it against x86 |
| 11:44.03 | *** join/#debian H2S04 (~wee@gateway/tor-sasl/h2s04) |
| 11:44.44 | *** join/#debian thiagoss (~thiagoss@189.71.116.210) |
| 11:46.07 | *** join/#debian atmark (~atmark@ch4.cproxy.cz) |
| 11:46.07 | *** join/#debian atmark (~atmark@fedora/atmark) |
| 11:46.32 | *** join/#debian bambanx (~crazycat@pc-187-187-120-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 11:46.49 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 11:47.58 | *** join/#debian afidegnum (~chatzilla@41-218-209-159-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 11:48.25 | afidegnum | hello, pls I urgently need help, I can't access any of my urls, I am greeted with 403 Forbidden error, while trying to install GNUPanel, here is it's installation script, please help http://pastebin.com/RmR2dsu2 |
| 11:50.12 | nkuttler | afidegnum: sounds like you should talk to gnupanel support |
| 11:50.50 | afidegnum | nkuttler: their suport is inactive for 2 years now |
| 11:51.02 | *** join/#debian bluesman___ (~blu@218.Red-88-27-12.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:51.06 | rozie | so don't use it |
| 11:51.22 | nkuttler | ^^++ |
| 11:51.27 | afidegnum | I already used it and it's creating problem in my server, I can't uninstall it |
| 11:51.42 | afidegnum | it's blocking access to my server |
| 11:51.43 | rozie | reinstall should help |
| 11:51.52 | rozie | or hiring admin |
| 11:52.00 | afidegnum | I repeated hte installation but the same is happening |
| 11:52.03 | nkuttler | afidegnum: well first make sure the 403 happens at the app level, not the httpd |
| 11:52.11 | rozie | that's how computer works |
| 11:52.20 | afidegnum | ? |
| 11:52.29 | rozie | you get the same result after the same actions |
| 11:52.33 | *** join/#debian tetreb (~tetreb@93-82-85-194.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 11:52.35 | afidegnum | nkuttler: I don't get you |
| 11:52.42 | rozie | well, sometimes they don't act this way |
| 11:52.57 | rozie | especially when they're broken |
| 11:52.59 | rozie | ;) |
| 11:53.17 | afidegnum | what do I do pls? |
| 11:53.23 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:53.40 | afidegnum | for the past 4 hours I am trying all possibles means but didn't help |
| 11:53.46 | nkuttler | afidegnum: what rozie said, hire somebody who can fix it for you |
| 11:54.08 | afidegnum | hmm, francky, I am broke, even what to eat is a problem |
| 11:54.32 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 11:54.51 | rozie | what? |
| 11:55.10 | Jakky | is there any substantial difference between the installation manuals for i386 and amd64? |
| 11:55.13 | afidegnum | that's my situation, |
| 11:55.25 | afidegnum | Jakky: yes |
| 11:55.28 | nkuttler | afidegnum: gnupanel isn't even in debian.. |
| 11:55.52 | Jakky | afidegnum: in what sections is the difference notable? |
| 11:55.57 | rozie | Jakky: no. there are separate upgrade manuals, but it's just an architecture change |
| 11:56.01 | nkuttler | Jakky: not much i my experience |
| 11:56.11 | nkuttler | in |
| 11:56.17 | rozie | in general 95% things is exactly the same |
| 11:56.21 | rozie | even more |
| 11:56.29 | afidegnum | nkuttler: oh, it's here http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 11:57.29 | nkuttler | afidegnum: that's not relevant |
| 11:58.09 | nkuttler | afidegnum: i mean... try #web maybe.. or #linux.. or learn debian + php |
| 11:58.42 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@gateway/tor-sasl/semeion) |
| 11:59.02 | *** part/#debian afidegnum (~chatzilla@41-218-209-159-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 11:59.38 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:59.56 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:01.14 | *** join/#debian pogmey (~pogmey@acce147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 12:01.22 | *** join/#debian H2S04 (~wee@gateway/tor-sasl/h2s04) |
| 12:02.56 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 12:03.32 | *** join/#debian alinux__99 (~alinux@193.227.186.146) |
| 12:03.37 | *** join/#debian alinux_ (~alinux@193.227.186.146) |
| 12:04.03 | *** join/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@HSI-KBW-046-005-198-011.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 12:05.02 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-dtlfwgtjmtfbhyyh) |
| 12:05.02 | *** join/#debian rockrush (~rockrush@180.168.59.170) |
| 12:05.12 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 12:06.09 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 12:06.27 | *** join/#debian monk (~aknm@unaffiliated/aknm) |
| 12:07.35 | *** join/#debian fir31ight (~fir31ight@gateway/tor-sasl/fir31ight) |
| 12:07.46 | *** join/#debian kaushal (~kaushal@49.248.16.122) |
| 12:07.50 | kaushal | Hi |
| 12:07.57 | *** join/#debian fossala (~fossala@host-89-241-110-171.as13285.net) |
| 12:08.02 | kaushal | is there a way to know number of HDD attached to a server running debian linux ? |
| 12:08.18 | kaushal | for around 1000 servers |
| 12:08.25 | *** join/#debian jtrucks (~jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.board.jtrucks) |
| 12:09.03 | p0g0 | kaushal: mounted or just attached? |
| 12:09.22 | kaushal | attached |
| 12:09.40 | p0g0 | df will report them |
| 12:09.49 | *** join/#debian mah454 (~mah454@78.39.221.175) |
| 12:09.52 | mah454 | Hello ... |
| 12:09.53 | p0g0 | as will a lot of other tools |
| 12:09.53 | mah454 | What is diffrent of --enable-linux-netfilter and --enable-linux-tproxy ? |
| 12:09.58 | kaushal | any tool which can do ? |
| 12:10.06 | kaushal | running remotely |
| 12:10.16 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-196-5-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 12:10.20 | *** join/#debian totte (~totte@unaffiliated/totte) |
| 12:10.30 | windparadise_ | do we have a kind of system restore in Debian? |
| 12:10.49 | windparadise_ | where some basic configurations are reverted |
| 12:10.59 | *** join/#debian Greg10 (~gregor@p549F525D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:11.01 | mah454 | windparadise_, system restore ? ! |
| 12:11.05 | windparadise_ | yes |
| 12:11.32 | mah454 | windparadise_, you can get original configuration from debian packages |
| 12:11.44 | mah454 | windparadise_, what config file ? |
| 12:11.45 | p0g0 | kaushal: sry, not enough coffee yet- df only reported mounted drives. |
| 12:12.10 | *** join/#debian bluesman___ (~blu@218.Red-88-27-12.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:12.21 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-196-5-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 12:12.36 | *** join/#debian thelastninja (~thelastni@188.75.70.99) |
| 12:12.39 | mah454 | windparadise_, what config file ? |
| 12:12.41 | jsoft | lol. |
| 12:12.45 | windparadise | hi, i was disconnected |
| 12:12.55 | mah454 | windparadise_, ok ... what config file ? |
| 12:13.03 | abrotman | windparadise: you hosed a config and want the original ? |
| 12:13.05 | windparadise | the apache configuration file |
| 12:13.13 | windparadise | yes |
| 12:13.18 | *** join/#debian Ox1 (~e1@unaffiliated/xx1) |
| 12:13.23 | abrotman | !confnew |
| 12:13.23 | dpkg | [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>. |
| 12:13.30 | mah454 | windparadise, use this : apt-get install --reinstall apache2 |
| 12:13.40 | abrotman | mah454: that will fail for multiple reasons |
| 12:13.44 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.215.1.35) |
| 12:13.47 | seb82 | rozie I've used MAKEDEV generic inside chroot... |
| 12:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1083] by debhelper |
| 12:14.09 | seb82 | rozie, I mounted proc inside chroot, works like a charm |
| 12:14.15 | mah454 | windparadise, download apache package and extract this ... |
| 12:14.18 | abrotman | wtf |
| 12:14.21 | windparadise | ok |
| 12:14.22 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-uzszyimaqcppbswz) |
| 12:14.35 | totte | I'd like to have my system automatically check for updates and notify me of them by e-mail or output in screen statusline (like, "Updates available: 0"). Bear with me here - to update I first need to do "aptitude update" to get the new package lists, and then "aptitude safe-upgrade" to see what packages I can update, right? |
| 12:14.36 | abrotman | mah454: /msg dpkg confmiss ; /msg dpkg confnew |
| 12:14.40 | abrotman | there's no need to do what you're doing |
| 12:14.58 | mah454 | abrotman, ok ... |
| 12:14.58 | abrotman | totte: cron-apt and apticron and unattended-upgrades |
| 12:15.19 | totte | abrotman: Yeah I installed cron-apt but I'm confused as to how it works. |
| 12:15.26 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.139.57.91) |
| 12:15.49 | abrotman | totte: it has docs .. or you can write your own script .. each works differently |
| 12:16.07 | *** join/#debian eviltoaster_ (~eviltoast@eduroam17-118.hh.se) |
| 12:16.29 | seb82 | both meselfs some cheap cardreader... finally a working cardreader onlinux |
| 12:16.32 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 12:16.56 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 12:16.58 | totte | abrotman: But the principle is that you first need to do "aptitude update" to get the new list and then "aptitude safe-upgrade" to find out which packages can be upgraded, right? |
| 12:17.14 | abrotman | totte: should have an option to do it for you |
| 12:17.54 | totte | If I just wanted a script that returned a number from 0 to infinity where the number indicates available updates? |
| 12:18.21 | abrotman | AIUI, that is the setup oiut of the box |
| 12:18.25 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@110.pool85-56-211.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 12:18.30 | seb82 | rozie, you there? |
| 12:19.28 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@110.pool85-56-211.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 12:19.43 | Greg10 | Hello, I'm having problems mounting my encrypted disk in the debian-installer rescue shell for ppc32 ( http://pastebin.com/YJJNcHFF ) |
| 12:19.44 | Greg10 | I presume i forgot to load some udeb but I couldn't find any information as to which one(s)? (I already installed crypto-modules and cryptsetup-udeb)\ |
| 12:19.44 | mah454 | abrotman, this command is true ? dpkg --force-confmiss -i PACKAGE_NAME |
| 12:23.23 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@190.245.74.16) |
| 12:23.29 | *** join/#debian robin_sz (~robin@host109-158-27-231.range109-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:23.30 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p57941E4E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:23.31 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@bband-dyn55.178-40-38.t-com.sk) |
| 12:23.44 | seb82 | how can I mount /dev to inside my chroot? |
| 12:23.57 | *** join/#debian Amarande (amarande@71-88-41-93.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 12:24.06 | *** join/#debian DivineEntity (~entity@bas2-stcatharines10-1128539251.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 12:24.56 | *** join/#debian virtual_lark (~skylark@82.200.71.230) |
| 12:27.29 | mah454 | Seb, use this : mount -o bind /dev /mount_point |
| 12:27.35 | seb82 | thx mah454 |
| 12:27.37 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (dtcrshr@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 12:28.26 | *** join/#debian AllyUser272138 (~AllyUser2@www.nowhere-else.org) |
| 12:29.00 | *** join/#debian chellomere_ (~alex@h-234-251.a189.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 12:29.25 | seb82 | still having issues with grub... that it can't read /boot/grub/stage1 |
| 12:29.34 | seb82 | *correctly |
| 12:29.55 | mah454 | Seb, you must mount /dev and /proc |
| 12:30.10 | Seb | mah454: not me, no |
| 12:30.18 | seb82 | already did outside chroot |
| 12:30.24 | seb82 | I can see both in chroot |
| 12:30.25 | *** join/#debian gary_golden (~gg@head.cluster-studio.com) |
| 12:30.34 | mah454 | use this : mount -o bind /proc /mount_point/proc |
| 12:30.43 | mah454 | and use grub command |
| 12:30.54 | seb82 | inside chroot? |
| 12:30.57 | mah454 | yes |
| 12:31.14 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@219.223.174.61) |
| 12:31.21 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@219.223.174.61) |
| 12:31.31 | seb82 | still the same... |
| 12:31.38 | abrotman | mah454: that will help you if you *remove* a conf file |
| 12:31.43 | bambanx | i am trying to install a deb and i have this error: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: liblo0ldbl (>= 0.23) |
| 12:31.47 | seb82 | it says it can't find stage1 inside /boot/grub |
| 12:31.49 | bambanx | how i can fix? |
| 12:31.55 | seb82 | eventhough outside grub it's there |
| 12:31.56 | *** join/#debian xtor_ (~extor@adsl-69-211-99-226.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 12:32.04 | mah454 | ls /boot/grub ? |
| 12:32.09 | abrotman | judd: versions liblo0ldb1 |
| 12:32.10 | judd | No package named 'liblo0ldb1' was found in i386. |
| 12:32.19 | seb82 | insdie grub the command ls is unrecognized |
| 12:32.27 | mah454 | bambanx, apt-get install -f |
| 12:32.28 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (proxy@cl-412.phx-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 12:32.51 | abrotman | that package isn't in Debian .. won't be any help |
| 12:32.59 | abrotman | judd: versions liblo0ldbl |
| 12:32.59 | judd | Package: liblo0ldbl on i386 -- lenny: 0.23-2.2 |
| 12:33.16 | abrotman | bambanx: which version of Debian are you on? what package are you trying to install ? |
| 12:33.24 | *** join/#debian preller (~preller@unaffiliated/preller) |
| 12:33.25 | mah454 | seb : I need output of this command : fdisk -l |
| 12:33.40 | mah454 | seb82, : I need output of this command : fdisk -l |
| 12:33.45 | bambanx | i am using debian 6 is a ardour a software for audio |
| 12:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1091] by debhelper |
| 12:34.04 | abrotman | bambanx: where did you get that ardour .deb file ? |
| 12:34.08 | mah454 | seb82, : use : pastebin.com |
| 12:34.13 | bambanx | in a forum |
| 12:34.18 | seb82 | mah454: http://paste.debian.net/133816/ |
| 12:34.26 | seb82 | paste.debian allowed also? |
| 12:34.27 | abrotman | bambanx: wrong .. very wrong ... |
| 12:34.37 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-199-116-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 12:34.37 | bambanx | =( |
| 12:34.39 | abrotman | bambanx: why not `aptitude install ardour' ? |
| 12:34.46 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 12:34.47 | bambanx | because is a old version |
| 12:35.02 | mah454 | seb82, : wait .... |
| 12:35.06 | seb82 | yes |
| 12:35.11 | abrotman | the one you're trying to install depends on a package squeeze doesn't have ... |
| 12:35.23 | seb82 | mah454: I left out sda because that's the drive i don't need to install it on... |
| 12:35.25 | abrotman | bambanx: which version is the one you're trying to install ? |
| 12:35.50 | *** part/#debian fish_ (~fish@2a01:238:42b5:f700:dead:cafe:beef:babe) |
| 12:35.57 | bambanx | 2.8 |
| 12:36.32 | abrotman | bambanx: that is the version in squeeze already |
| 12:36.36 | abrotman | judd: versions ardour |
| 12:36.37 | judd | Package: ardour on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.8.11-3; sid: 1:2.8.11-7; wheezy: 1:2.8.11-7 |
| 12:36.37 | abrotman | see ? |
| 12:36.56 | *** join/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@h37.37.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 12:37.02 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@sto93-2-82-228-142-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:37.12 | bambanx | lol |
| 12:37.21 | bambanx | whe i see 1:2... |
| 12:37.24 | bambanx | i think is old |
| 12:37.28 | bambanx | :$ |
| 12:37.35 | abrotman | you should have tried it first :) |
| 12:37.38 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 12:38.06 | mah454 | seb82, Use this : http://pastebin.com/uxkVu2kw |
| 12:38.14 | *** join/#debian hipodilski (~hipo@pc-freak.net) |
| 12:38.26 | bambanx | abrotman, i have two packages on sinaptyc |
| 12:38.48 | abrotman | install the one from squeeze .. not the one you downloaded |
| 12:38.53 | bambanx | abrotman, ardour and ardour-i-686 |
| 12:39.01 | bambanx | yeah |
| 12:39.06 | bambanx | in my sinaptic |
| 12:39.10 | abrotman | judd: versions ardour-i686 |
| 12:39.11 | judd | Package: ardour-i686 on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.8.11-3; sid: 1:2.8.11-7; wheezy: 1:2.8.11-7 |
| 12:39.17 | bambanx | which of the both i should install? |
| 12:39.29 | abrotman | oh .. so use either you want .. the i686 might perfrom beetter .. |
| 12:39.47 | bambanx | i dont know the diferences |
| 12:40.01 | *** join/#debian abbe (enquiry@freebsd/developer/ashish) |
| 12:40.39 | abrotman | one is compile for a more generic 486 architecture .. 686 is for PII and above (technically PPro) |
| 12:40.50 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@ip-81-23-53-226.ask4internet.com) |
| 12:41.00 | abrotman | but really .. who still has a Pentium Pro in use as a desktop that would use ardour on it :) |
| 12:41.00 | mah454 | what do judd account ? |
| 12:41.04 | abrotman | mah454: ? |
| 12:41.15 | *** join/#debian scoobert1on (~tom@93.186.150.10) |
| 12:41.16 | bambanx | i have a i7 |
| 12:41.23 | abrotman | bambanx: so try the i686 versions |
| 12:41.29 | mah454 | abrotman, this account is a robot ? (some dpkg) |
| 12:41.38 | *** join/#debian kdng-humanchimp (~kdng-irc@94.28.48.98) |
| 12:42.01 | abrotman | mah454: judd is another bot, keeps track of different things than dpkg .. mostly package versions and relationships |
| 12:42.12 | abrotman | !udd |
| 12:42.13 | dpkg | somebody said udd was the "Ultimate Debian Database", an effort to gather lots of useful information about Debian from a variety of sources and stuff it all into a giant PostgreSQL database. http://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase http://udd.debian.org/ |
| 12:42.16 | bambanx | thanks abrotman |
| 12:42.18 | Greg10 | Has anyone an idea which udeb I have to load in order to have cryptsetup support in the ppc32 installer? |
| 12:42.19 | bambanx | buddy |
| 12:42.22 | mah454 | judd versions apache |
| 12:42.22 | abrotman | bambanx: enjoy! |
| 12:42.22 | judd | No package named 'apache' was found in i386. |
| 12:42.29 | mah454 | judd versions apache2 |
| 12:42.30 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny11; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze1; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-6+squeeze2~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.2.16-6+squeeze4; wheezy: 2.2.20-1; sid: 2.2.21-1 |
| 12:42.38 | mah454 | waooooo ! |
| 12:42.49 | abrotman | mah454: you can also use the bot in msg |
| 12:43.50 | mah454 | What is diffrent of --enable-linux-netfilter and --enable-linux-tproxy ? |
| 12:43.59 | abrotman | in what? |
| 12:43.59 | mah454 | on squid |
| 12:44.34 | gary_golden | after last update (wheezy) gnome became very slow. and I mean it slow. it takes about 30 secs to switch to, for example, pidgin and back |
| 12:44.38 | gary_golden | what's worng? |
| 12:45.18 | *** join/#debian pAt_ (~pAt_@p549FA11E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:45.28 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~najwa@203.78.122.47) |
| 12:46.45 | nkuttler | gary_golden: try running "top" first |
| 12:47.07 | *** join/#debian ctx (~ctx@unaffiliated/w-4rl0ck/x-0340605) |
| 12:47.23 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@207.239.107.3) |
| 12:48.40 | gary_golden | nkuttler: X is the process which eats CPU (100%) |
| 12:49.18 | gary_golden | I noticed downgrade of nvidia proprietary drivers to 275. Is it something you're aware of? |
| 12:49.28 | seb82 | mah454: I tried, doing inside grub wot you said but no avail |
| 12:49.56 | nkuttler | gary_golden: hmmm, not sure how to debug that. but yeah, try different drivers |
| 12:50.49 | *** part/#debian ctx (~ctx@unaffiliated/w-4rl0ck/x-0340605) |
| 12:52.44 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@static-dsl-224.87-197-109.telecom.sk) |
| 12:53.39 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~me@99-75-56-77.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:54.14 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-199-116-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 12:54.23 | *** join/#debian eviltoaster_ (~eviltoast@eduroam17-118.hh.se) |
| 12:54.29 | windparadise | pls can u show me the command again? hwo do I add www-data to all folders and subfolders starting from /var/www ? |
| 12:55.35 | *** join/#debian ars3nic (~ars3nic@tsf-wpa-2-0169.epfl.ch) |
| 12:56.39 | abrotman | windparadise: man chown |
| 12:56.45 | abrotman | but you probably don't want to do that |
| 12:56.56 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@hexen.cgv.tu-graz.ac.at) |
| 12:56.58 | windparadise | euh, no, adding additional user apart from root |
| 12:57.15 | abrotman | chmod? |
| 12:57.25 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 12:57.31 | abrotman | won't ask why root owns files in DocumentRoot |
| 12:58.15 | windparadise | does chmod add users ? |
| 12:58.17 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 12:58.28 | *** join/#debian machine99703 (~mclark@unaffiliated/mclrk) |
| 12:58.38 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 13:00.38 | *** part/#debian ars3nic (~ars3nic@tsf-wpa-2-0169.epfl.ch) |
| 13:00.41 | Amarande | no, chmod only changes permissions |
| 13:01.06 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@cpc12-rdng20-2-0-cust598.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:01.42 | Amarande | you can set the permissions for the user owning the file, the group owning the file, and all others. (oh, and setuid/setgid bits, which I'm not sure what they do for non-executable files. for directories IIRC they cause anything created in that directory to be initially owned by that user or group, but I'm foggy.) that's all you can do with chmod. |
| 13:02.13 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:03.57 | bambanx | how i can configure my sound card? |
| 13:04.12 | NodeX | Amarande : the user creating the file/folder is the default owner of it in the directory |
| 13:04.26 | *** join/#debian Recku (~Recku@94.72.151.218) |
| 13:04.28 | NodeX | [13:58:14] <windparadise> does chmod add users ? .... `adduser` |
| 13:04.45 | windparadise | ok |
| 13:04.52 | *** join/#debian crissi (crissi@wohnt.auf.Deep-Space-Nine.eu) |
| 13:04.57 | *** part/#debian Greg10 (~gregor@p549F525D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:05.32 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 13:05.47 | crissi | hello. i installed 2.6.39 kernel from backports on squeeze but there is no initrd generated.. whats wrong? |
| 13:06.11 | *** join/#debian Big_Brother (~cappytan@host-64-139-227-87.nctv.com) |
| 13:07.08 | *** join/#debian pygmy (pygmy@antenora.aculei.net) |
| 13:08.24 | *** join/#debian dsdeiz (~dsdeiz@acl1-730bts.gw.smartbro.net) |
| 13:10.23 | *** part/#debian crissi (crissi@wohnt.auf.Deep-Space-Nine.eu) |
| 13:10.52 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@80.30.109.209) |
| 13:10.57 | *** join/#debian DarthGandalf (~Vetinari@znc/developer/DarthGandalf) |
| 13:12.50 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@artis3.probesys.com) |
| 13:12.55 | *** join/#debian Onryo (~Onryo@c-4ccfe455.025-521-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:12.56 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@85.183.18.158) |
| 13:13.35 | rgr | the default iceweasel in squeeze doesnt work with jquery. Any ideas as to why? 3.5.16 |
| 13:13.36 | *** join/#debian tech13 (~tech13@adsl-99-18-51-150.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:13.43 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@OL88-194.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 13:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1098] by debhelper |
| 13:14.59 | joelio | Hi, does anyone know what the preseed config is to allow kernel 3.0 in wheezy install? |
| 13:15.35 | *** join/#debian [E]sc (~armani@cm218-252-220-28.hkcable.com.hk) |
| 13:15.36 | *** join/#debian ailo_ (~ailo.at@90-230-166-102-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 13:15.42 | joelio | I keep getting a list of kernels to install. I've tried doing a debconf --get-selectons and teasting out what I thought was relevant but to no avail |
| 13:16.34 | Amarande | rgr: the default iceweasel in squeeze is woefully old, you really should upgrade it pretty much as soon as you install. |
| 13:16.48 | Amarande | !tell rgr about mdn |
| 13:17.11 | *** join/#debian borkd (~borkd@borkd.org) |
| 13:17.22 | Amarande | literally, you can't even run things like Google+ (and apparently, now, some other Google apps) on the squeeze stock iceweasel anymore |
| 13:17.27 | rgr | nothing through. didnt think it was thatold but thought would ask first. I could just install FF I supposed. Any gotchas? |
| 13:17.30 | Amarande | you will quite flatly be told "your browser is not supported" |
| 13:17.31 | borkd | hi, does anyone know what debian iso-cd contains the package wvdial? |
| 13:17.41 | Amarande | rgr: just install the newer iceweasel backports from MDN |
| 13:17.46 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 13:17.47 | rgr | ok, ill google |
| 13:17.49 | *** join/#debian donald (~donald@p4FEAAA8B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:18.10 | Amarande | I'm currently using the aurora update channel. It works nicely. |
| 13:18.49 | rgr | any chance of a howto link, google is pretty lame here. dont know what mdn is and how it might affect the rest of my stable. |
| 13:19.44 | rgr | and the mdn howto falls at the first hurdle since firefox isnt a built in target. |
| 13:20.27 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs109108016252.pp.htv.fi) |
| 13:20.33 | bambanx | guys i dont have of my mic how i can fix? |
| 13:20.44 | *** part/#debian borkd (~borkd@borkd.org) |
| 13:20.50 | rgr | check alsa-mixer |
| 13:21.06 | *** join/#debian m_ (~m@ppp-93-104-4-109.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 13:21.07 | m_ | Hi |
| 13:21.20 | m_ | I have a md-array (mirroring), which has failed disk sda |
| 13:21.33 | *** join/#debian KIAaze (~KIAaze@unaffiliated/kiaaze) |
| 13:21.35 | m_ | i accidentally marked /dev/sdb1 as failed instead of sda1 |
| 13:21.39 | m_ | how do I revert this? |
| 13:22.06 | colo-work | m_, --re-add the components you dropped |
| 13:22.08 | *** join/#debian genieliu (~genieliu@59.78.62.120) |
| 13:22.13 | m_ | kk thanks |
| 13:22.16 | rgr | oh nice : http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 13:22.53 | *** join/#debian berserkr1 (~david@212.122.111.205.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 13:23.11 | colo-work | m_, and be more careful next time. you can fuck things up badly with the wrong mdadm invocation. |
| 13:23.19 | m_ | hmm doesnt work |
| 13:23.20 | m_ | localhost / # mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/sdb1 |
| 13:23.20 | m_ | mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy |
| 13:23.45 | *** join/#debian jillsmitt_h (~jillsmitt@92.47.193.185) |
| 13:24.09 | colo-work | are you sure it's actually been dropped from your array? |
| 13:24.20 | *** join/#debian extor (~extor@adsl-69-211-99-226.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 13:24.31 | colo-work | nopaste /proc/mdstat contents please |
| 13:24.49 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:68fc:2bc5:418b:46e8) |
| 13:25.20 | rgr | Amarande: yup worked like a dream although I always quake when it prompts to remove things I dont know what they do... ;) |
| 13:25.49 | *** join/#debian satrionics (~user@cpc3-hink4-2-0-cust819.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:25.55 | m_ | colo-work, http://nopaste.info/60a7c1b293.html |
| 13:25.58 | *** part/#debian satrionics (~user@cpc3-hink4-2-0-cust819.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:26.21 | *** join/#debian satrionics (~user@cpc3-hink4-2-0-cust819.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:26.32 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-148.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 13:26.33 | satrionics | hi. got a question about gpg keys |
| 13:26.54 | satrionics | trying to get the gpg key to mirror ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 13:26.57 | satrionics | im using debmirror |
| 13:27.12 | colo-work | m_, so you got a two-disk RAID1 |
| 13:27.13 | *** join/#debian theNeuromancer (~theNeurom@www.nowhere-else.org) |
| 13:27.23 | colo-work | what happened to the disk you wanted to set faulty? |
| 13:27.25 | colo-work | is it fried? |
| 13:27.40 | m_ | disk fucked up, Oct 2 20:19:30 stella kernel: [251704.832076] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen |
| 13:27.40 | m_ | Oct 2 20:19:30 stella kernel: [251704.832081] ata1.00: failed command: IDENTIFY DEVICE |
| 13:27.41 | m_ | yep |
| 13:27.43 | m_ | totally |
| 13:27.48 | *** join/#debian JohnTortugo (~john@143.106.196.246) |
| 13:28.04 | m_ | booted it via rescue-os of my provider, so i was able to get this out of the logfiles |
| 13:28.16 | *** part/#debian theNeuromancer (~theNeurom@www.nowhere-else.org) |
| 13:28.16 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 13:28.42 | colo-work | m_, you should probably try to stop the whole md array(s), and assemble it from the working disk you just --fail-ed before. that should work. |
| 13:29.12 | m_ | never done that before, the initial setup was done by my hoster |
| 13:29.46 | [E]sc | i'm running lenny with nvidia video card using compiz, however, there's a lot of video lag, but it's like doing none graphic intensive things like menu selection or typing, does anyone know have a fix for this? |
| 13:30.40 | petern__ | yeah, don't use compiz |
| 13:30.59 | Amarande | [E]sc, are you using nouveau or the nvidia binary driver? |
| 13:31.21 | *** join/#debian john3voltas (~rds_corre@62.28.168.5) |
| 13:31.21 | colo-work | there's no nouveau for lenny, I'd guess |
| 13:31.30 | [E]sc | thanks petern__ that was the fix i was looking for! |
| 13:31.39 | Amarande | either don't use compiz, or use the nvidia binary driver. even nouveau let alone the older drivers is not up to the task yet for 3D DRI that compiz needs not to suck |
| 13:31.52 | [E]sc | Amarande, not sure, how do i check? |
| 13:32.03 | Amarande | have you ever installed the nvidia binary driver? |
| 13:32.09 | petern__ | glxinfo | grep vendor |
| 13:32.20 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 13:32.21 | Amarande | (it's from non-free, so you'd have had to actively take steps to install it, if you didn't, you don't) |
| 13:33.03 | [E]sc | well using petern__ 's glxinfo, it shows NVIDIA Corporation, ... |
| 13:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1105] by debhelper |
| 13:34.07 | john3voltas | greetings. i'd like to boot a livecd version of debian through pxe. can somebody give me a hand with this? my dhcp server is a windows 2003 and my tftp server is tftpd32. |
| 13:34.14 | [E]sc | how do i disable the compiz? |
| 13:34.34 | m_ | colo-work, will mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1, then mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sdb2 and then mdadm --assemble /dev/md2 /dev/sdb3 work? |
| 13:35.37 | colo-work | m_, read md's manpage. carefully. iirc, `mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 missing` should work. please confirm with the manpage before you actually try it, though. |
| 13:35.49 | colo-work | the "missing"-keyword will probably be required |
| 13:35.57 | colo-work | you might also need --force for --assemble |
| 13:36.03 | colo-work | that's generally regarded a safe operation |
| 13:36.37 | m_ | ok |
| 13:37.19 | *** join/#debian xsergio (~sergio@2001:12f0:6c0:2:223:7dff:fe43:c19a) |
| 13:37.23 | xsergio | Hi, i have a debian squeeze (6.0.2) with bind 9.7.3 and DNSSEC enabled. working as a recursive server. When I try to resolve a name from a zone without DS records for its subzone, my bind fails to resolve, returning SERVERFAIL. Is it a known bug? |
| 13:37.29 | m_ | hmm, without the --force it gives mdadm: /dev/sdb1 has no superblock - assembly aborted |
| 13:37.49 | m_ | .oO( why did my provider mirror the swapspace, too? ) |
| 13:38.41 | *** part/#debian satrionics (~user@cpc3-hink4-2-0-cust819.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:38.48 | m_ | and it's same for the other two partitions |
| 13:38.48 | *** join/#debian anaschema (~anaschema@gateway/tor-sasl/kirvax) |
| 13:39.53 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:d035:1b30:dc9e:56d1) |
| 13:40.00 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~boo@p4FEA5045.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:40.01 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 13:43.42 | *** join/#debian diniwed2 (~gavron@ool-457596d4.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 13:43.43 | m_ | colo-work, will mdadm --misc --stop /dev/md0 help for the device in use errors? |
| 13:43.59 | *** join/#debian urlin2u (~urlin2u@unaffiliated/urlin2u) |
| 13:44.00 | *** join/#debian eternity13 (~eternity1@93.177.247.54) |
| 13:44.03 | *** join/#debian haxi (quassel@unaffiliated/haxi) |
| 13:44.29 | *** join/#debian demetan (~demetan@unaffiliated/demetan) |
| 13:44.35 | colo-work | m_, can't tell. maybe. your array's state is bad right now because of the dangling disk that seems halfway dead to the kernel, I presume |
| 13:44.53 | colo-work | if you want to make sure you don't lose any data from this, please consult with the fine people on the linux raid mailing lists |
| 13:45.31 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@pool-173-57-155-70.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:46.49 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 13:47.48 | *** join/#debian Cyanure (~Cyanure@212-198-164-39.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:48.19 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@32.97.110.55) |
| 13:48.33 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-166-124.netcologne.de) |
| 13:48.38 | *** join/#debian fignew (~woowoo@user-1121ea3.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 13:48.39 | *** join/#debian XLV_ (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 13:48.44 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@178-24-222-106-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:50.01 | *** join/#debian jelly (~jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 13:50.11 | *** join/#debian vigilant (~vigilant@unaffiliated/vigilant) |
| 13:50.13 | vigilant | hello |
| 13:50.47 | *** join/#debian j-v-e (~j-v-e@static-98-114-31-74.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:50.57 | vigilant | I have this interface and I actually mistakenly messed with the settings in the interfaces file, now I need to restore it back to its original state or a working state. I can provide the original "ifconfig" output for this interface, can someone please help me? |
| 13:53.13 | windparadise | hello, is there a a way to reinstall/ upgrade the system, overriding current configuration to a default one ? |
| 13:53.37 | windparadise | but preserving the file folders and databases |
| 13:53.42 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-eokbikcigmkvsqeg) |
| 13:55.35 | *** join/#debian Okazaki-san (Ota-kun@adsl-76-200-150-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:55.54 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 13:57.56 | *** join/#debian sphenxes01 (~sphenxes@85-127-210-35.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:58.03 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 13:58.04 | *** join/#debian dotnull (~DotNull@office.t8webware.com) |
| 13:58.21 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 13:58.22 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-btbtmqqfnzryznhy) |
| 13:59.10 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 13:59.59 | *** join/#debian DelTree (~deplagne@alcorak1.eric.deplagne.name) |
| 14:00.18 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 14:03.32 | *** join/#debian StuckDK (freenode@2.108.37.132) |
| 14:03.35 | *** join/#debian markvandenborre (~mark@ubuntu/member/markvandenborre) |
| 14:04.02 | markvandenborre | I'm looking for an embedded thingie with VGA, dvi or hdmi output |
| 14:04.18 | markvandenborre | debian based, preferably vesa monitor mountable |
| 14:04.24 | markvandenborre | wifi |
| 14:04.35 | markvandenborre | stable and somewhat low cost |
| 14:05.02 | markvandenborre | I was thinking of the genesie efika smarttop |
| 14:05.14 | markvandenborre | but maybe someone has different suggestions? |
| 14:06.33 | markvandenborre | I could of course always print something with my reprap, but I am still hoping to find something just as cheap and energy efficiet |
| 14:06.52 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B549F8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:08.30 | m_ | argh... |
| 14:08.35 | *** join/#debian violetina (~quassel@unaffiliated/violetina) |
| 14:08.47 | m_ | how do I restart a md array which was stopped by mdadm --misc --stop /dev/md0? |
| 14:08.55 | m_ | /dev/md0 dpesnt exist |
| 14:09.27 | m_ | however, the md shows up in mdadm -Es |
| 14:09.27 | violetina | hmm maybe an odd question , but is it possible to fetch an old debian install medium with a 2.4 kernel? |
| 14:09.38 | m_ | ARRAY /dev/md0 UUID=758aecee:8b88600f:04894333:532a878b |
| 14:10.33 | *** join/#debian Dan23 (~Dan@c-76-118-198-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 14:10.51 | markvandenborre | violetina: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 14:10.54 | *** join/#debian peterS (~peter@wire.p12n.org) |
| 14:11.14 | violetina | ty markvandenborre :x |
| 14:11.22 | *** join/#debian przemoc (~przemoc@unaffiliated/przemoc) |
| 14:11.25 | colo-work | m_, you tried --assemble yet? |
| 14:11.58 | *** part/#debian Pinchiukas (~keps@unaffiliated/pinchiukas) |
| 14:12.03 | m_ | yeah |
| 14:12.12 | m_ | hey lol, running it without "missing" works. |
| 14:12.40 | *** join/#debian davidisko (~davidisko@nat-88-212-37-51.antik.sk) |
| 14:13.04 | *** join/#debian asdjaputra (~angga@unaffiliated/asdjaputra) |
| 14:13.51 | m_ | ok, /proc/mdstats looks "good" now |
| 14:14.09 | m_ | http://nopaste.info/6a466e397c.html |
| 14:14.17 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-98-220-57-195.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 14:14.34 | markvandenborre | violetina: you do need to know very well what you're doing though |
| 14:15.11 | markvandenborre | this might be good for a system not connected to the intarwebs |
| 14:15.22 | *** join/#debian Raphaelt (~Raphael@ret08-1-88-182-200-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:15.27 | violetina | markvandenborre: well i have some hw firewire card that only works with that < 2.6 kernel |
| 14:15.30 | markvandenborre | or as a first step to upgrading or something |
| 14:15.51 | m_ | now how to set the system to boot from sdb instead of sda without having to pay the hoster for out-of-office support -..- |
| 14:16.26 | arvind_khadri | Hi, how can I clear the main memory? |
| 14:16.30 | markvandenborre | violetina: ... or for running ancient unsupported hardware indeed :) |
| 14:16.37 | violetina | markvandenborre: dont need X just jackd and setup netjack , so i wonder does debian had preempt in those old kernels? |
| 14:16.53 | *** join/#debian elgar (~jacksond@38.106.144.30) |
| 14:17.14 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 14:17.18 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~zykotick9@66.11.174.71) |
| 14:17.24 | markvandenborre | violetina: I remember quite some trouble in the kernel community when it came to preemtping years ago |
| 14:17.32 | markvandenborre | but nothing specific, sorry |
| 14:17.43 | *** join/#debian ironmunk (~alex@sati.pancentric.net) |
| 14:17.45 | *** join/#debian QaDeS (~mklaus@frbg-4d028697.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:17.55 | violetina | hmm worked fine for me those times with gentoo , but cant get acient gentoo :x |
| 14:18.09 | *** join/#debian wfq (~pepito@QMStudsDynamic-253-193.qmul.ac.uk) |
| 14:18.11 | wfq | hi guys |
| 14:18.38 | wfq | can I install xfce 4.8 on Debian? Don't mind to upgrade my squeeze 6.0.2 version |
| 14:18.50 | wfq | I mean by using debian packages of course |
| 14:21.01 | Iridos | judd, versions xfce4 |
| 14:21.01 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.2.1; lenny-backports: 4.6.1.1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.6.2; sid: 4.8.0.3; wheezy: 4.8.0.3 |
| 14:21.04 | wfq | actually what is the difference between lenny and testing. I always thought that there was stable, testing and sid version of debians |
| 14:21.07 | *** join/#debian dimir (~dimir@dimir.eu) |
| 14:21.16 | markvandenborre | violetina: you don't happen to know energy efficient vesa mountable hardware, do you? |
| 14:21.34 | dvs | wfq: lenny is oldstable now. testing is wheezy. |
| 14:21.35 | violetina | nope srry |
| 14:21.35 | jelly | wfq: lenny, Debian 5, is the previous release. "oldstable" |
| 14:21.45 | markvandenborre | np |
| 14:21.55 | jelly | !release history |
| 14:21.56 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
| 14:22.09 | *** join/#debian XLV_ (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 14:22.16 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@ip90-6-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 14:22.16 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 14:22.22 | *** join/#debian bambanx (~crazycat@pc-187-187-120-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 14:22.22 | Iridos | wfq, there are always stable, testing and unstable - for some time there is oldstable, too. Unstable is always called "sid" every distribution then gets a name and stays in testing for some time, then becomes stable |
| 14:22.24 | wfq | I see so following stable, testing and sid we have know squeeze, wheezy and sid |
| 14:22.41 | wfq | I seee |
| 14:22.43 | dvs | wfq: yes |
| 14:22.48 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 14:22.51 | wfq | thanks guys. Shall go for testing for the moment |
| 14:22.58 | dvs | why? |
| 14:22.59 | Iridos | when a new testing becomes stable, the old stable is supported for ... I think one more year... and it's called "oldstable" for that time |
| 14:23.09 | wfq | dvs, I need xfce 4.8 |
| 14:23.23 | dvs | wfq: There may be a backport for that. |
| 14:23.26 | Iridos | wfq, you can backport it from unstable |
| 14:23.38 | Iridos | or from testing |
| 14:23.42 | Jakky | it looks like unprivileged users are able to read system critical files like /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and other unprivileged users' home directories by default on any Debian system. Why is that? |
| 14:23.43 | Iridos | !tell wfq -about ssb |
| 14:24.01 | Amarande | Jakky: Linux security is rather lax by design |
| 14:24.44 | dvs | Amarande: wpa_supplicant.conf is not a regular config file. People create that file. |
| 14:25.27 | *** join/#debian pellegrino (~pellegrin@lepke.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:25.31 | *** part/#debian pellegrino (~pellegrin@lepke.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:25.35 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@188-102-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 14:28.09 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 14:28.10 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@187.40.92.134) |
| 14:28.42 | arvind_khadri | Hi, how can I clear the main memory? |
| 14:28.57 | dvs | arvind_khadri: ??? Turn off the computer? |
| 14:29.08 | wfq | dvs, just installed my squeeze absolutely basic. I think I will go for testing. Is there any "official" document I can follow? |
| 14:29.12 | *** join/#debian two_eight (~dmitry@178.122.111.165) |
| 14:29.23 | dvs | wfq: no, not for testing. |
| 14:29.23 | arvind_khadri | dvs, no other way |
| 14:29.49 | dvs | !wayttd arvind_khadri |
| 14:29.49 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, arvind_khadri? |
| 14:30.04 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-92-252-53-254.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 14:30.56 | arvind_khadri | dvs, I have a remote machine, whose main memory I want to clear. |
| 14:31.14 | *** join/#debian Fanisk (~Fanisk@62.118.119.189) |
| 14:31.19 | Amarande | you mean RAM or disk? |
| 14:31.31 | *** part/#debian john3voltas (~rds_corre@62.28.168.5) |
| 14:31.35 | arvind_khadri | RAM |
| 14:32.00 | Iridos | wfq, if you have to ask, we suggest you stay with stable :) |
| 14:32.02 | dvs | arvind_khadri: The only way I can think I can do that is to start terminating programs. |
| 14:32.24 | Iridos | what do you mean "clear" |
| 14:32.26 | wfq | Iridos, yes but I do want to get xfce 4.8 and don't feel like compiling the sources |
| 14:32.29 | zamba | i have usb0 in my list of devices, how can i remove that? |
| 14:32.30 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Curry@5acb7e73.bb.sky.com) |
| 14:32.33 | arvind_khadri | dvs, oh ok. |
| 14:32.35 | *** join/#debian Onryo (~Onryo@31.7.57.188) |
| 14:32.41 | wfq | I'd rather go with testing and assume possible pitfalls |
| 14:32.51 | *** join/#debian Lesterwood (~gfdsg@67-194-66-137.wireless.umnet.umich.edu) |
| 14:32.52 | dvs | arvind_khadri: What are you using to measure memory usage? |
| 14:33.01 | Iridos | wfq, how do you feel about fixing all the broken things you will install when going to testing? |
| 14:33.12 | arvind_khadri | dvs, free |
| 14:33.46 | wfq | Iridos, it isn't always that bad. At least it did not use to be in the past :) |
| 14:33.50 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@85-127-210-35.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1112] by debhelper |
| 14:34.17 | Iridos | I didn't say it was bad, just that you'll invariably have to fix stuff |
| 14:34.28 | Iridos | and as testing is rolling, you will have to keep fixing stuff... |
| 14:34.43 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~michael@99.148.198.122) |
| 14:34.54 | dvs | arvind_khadri: you do realize that the second line of free is the actual memory usage. |
| 14:34.55 | Iridos | even with stable you have to fix things up... but then they stay well fixed for a couple of years until the next release |
| 14:35.13 | arvind_khadri | dvs, yes. |
| 14:35.33 | *** join/#debian tno (~tno@bl10-139-138.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 14:36.07 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.119.130.114) |
| 14:36.07 | wfq | much better than compiling xfce... My testing debian won't be very much used except for development so no major updates will be carried out. All that I need is xfce 4.8 and will be so without updating for ages. Unless I won't do it before my contract expires at the end of this year. Then the problem is down to the administrator :) |
| 14:36.10 | *** join/#debian rypervenche (~rypervenc@unaffiliated/rypervenche) |
| 14:36.12 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 14:36.19 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:36.45 | wfq | There are many forum posts about how to do it but they are usually wrong, hence I asked if there was any reliable URL |
| 14:37.01 | *** join/#debian djcb (djcb@nat/nokia/x-esiprbvxeeotmtbd) |
| 14:37.30 | Bombo | hm |
| 14:37.39 | jelly | what's so great in xfce 4.8? |
| 14:37.48 | colo-work | the 8, obviously |
| 14:37.50 | dvs | !sns |
| 14:37.51 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 14:37.53 | Bombo | $ dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_2.6.32-35_amd64.deb dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_2.6.32-35_amd64.deb (--install): package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) |
| 14:37.55 | colo-work | 6 just doesn't cut the mustard any more |
| 14:38.05 | *** join/#debian elgar (~jacksond@38.106.144.30) |
| 14:38.11 | Iridos | wfq, there's not much do it... add testing to your sources.list, upgrade, fix broken stuff |
| 14:38.22 | colo-work | (I'd really wish for xfwm to be capable of opengl compositing - then xfce would be finished and perfect for my taste) |
| 14:38.24 | wfq | :0 |
| 14:38.29 | fossala | editing menuo |
| 14:38.36 | Iridos | might do a safe-upgrade first, though |
| 14:38.39 | Bombo | can i force the installation somehow? a 64bit kernel will run 32bit apps i thought |
| 14:38.40 | fossala | menus |
| 14:38.53 | Bombo | rozie: still there? |
| 14:39.18 | Amarande | dvs: I don't think SNS is the right reaction to a machine that was stated to be used for development |
| 14:39.30 | jelly | Amarande: then you don't know developers |
| 14:39.42 | Amarande | Using the current version of software for dev is kind of something that one would *expect*, not decry. |
| 14:39.53 | Amarande | Otherwise, we'd still be using Turbo Pascal and Borland C++. :) |
| 14:40.59 | Bombo | needs a 64bit kernel to complete debootstrap stage2 |
| 14:41.19 | Iridos | Amarande, now you'll only have to tell us if that's a bad thing or not :) |
| 14:41.24 | Iridos | that'd |
| 14:41.26 | dvs | misses his Borland C++ |
| 14:41.30 | Iridos | that'd be, even |
| 14:41.37 | Amarande | Turbo Pascal on the other hand was kind of an abomination, apparently |
| 14:41.45 | Bombo | ok dpkg --force-architecture -i linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_2.6.32-35_amd64.deb ;) |
| 14:41.54 | Amarande | Actually, I think most of the old games that require MoSlo to even run at all were written in TP. |
| 14:42.09 | rozie | Bombo: just wajig install linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 |
| 14:42.27 | Amarande | Or the slowdown provided by emulation, but slowdown at any rate. |
| 14:42.31 | rozie | you should not use kernel from amd64 repository |
| 14:42.42 | Bombo | wajig? |
| 14:42.50 | rozie | apt-get |
| 14:42.54 | rozie | wajig is cool |
| 14:42.55 | rozie | ;) |
| 14:43.10 | Bombo | maybe later ;) |
| 14:43.12 | *** join/#debian Guest90340 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 14:43.19 | Amarande | (Some games would just run too fast ... the TP ones would refuse to run at all, apparently because the initial calculations to establish timing routines would produce a division by 0 error) |
| 14:43.31 | Bombo | what about the amd64 repo? |
| 14:43.34 | *** join/#debian simonAJ (~instantgr@wifi-out.sdu.dk) |
| 14:43.47 | rozie | Bombo: just make apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 on you 32 bit system |
| 14:43.49 | Bombo | isnt the linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 from the same? |
| 14:44.03 | rozie | no. |
| 14:44.28 | Bombo | too late the dpkg --force-architecture seems to have worked |
| 14:44.46 | rozie | I guess it'll break system |
| 14:44.57 | dvs | especially the kernel |
| 14:45.02 | Iridos | bets anyone? |
| 14:45.07 | babilen | Bombo: Just don't use --force-* |
| 14:45.23 | rozie | force is useful |
| 14:45.30 | Bombo | babilen: it wont let me install the amd64 kernel on my i386 box |
| 14:45.37 | rozie | if you really know why you're using it |
| 14:45.45 | babilen | Bombo: I doubt that |
| 14:45.51 | rozie | Bombo: for a good reason |
| 14:46.02 | babilen | rozie: Which is almost always not the case -- But I agree. |
| 14:46.23 | *** join/#debian newbie22 (~newbie22@adsl-66-157-218-96.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:46.28 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.215.1.35) |
| 14:46.31 | Bombo | babilen: doubt that it wont let me? i pasted the output package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) |
| 14:46.32 | Iridos | well, reboot, tell us what happened |
| 14:46.36 | dvs | Bombo: You got the wrong package because there are amd64 that were made for the 386 arch. |
| 14:46.36 | Iridos | we all enjoy a good laugh |
| 14:46.49 | rozie | ;) |
| 14:47.01 | Iridos | Bombo, there are 64-bit kernels compiled for 32bit userland in the repo |
| 14:47.16 | rozie | Iridos: that's what I told him to use |
| 14:47.24 | Iridos | you forced install on one that is for 64bit userland |
| 14:47.27 | dvs | !rozie++ |
| 14:47.44 | Bombo | and where to get those? it would be installed with apt-get? |
| 14:47.45 | rozie | but he wants OG amd64 for some reason ;) |
| 14:47.50 | *** join/#debian haxi__ (~quassel@lan31-1-81-56-82-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:47.53 | rozie | Bombo: pgup |
| 14:48.01 | rozie | I gave you exact command |
| 14:48.02 | babilen | Bombo: That is because you downloaded the wrong package (i.e. the one from amd64 not the one from i386) -- Installing the kernel should be as easy as running "apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64" (on amd64 *and* i386) |
| 14:48.17 | dvs | yup |
| 14:48.29 | Amarande | and remember, if you do hose your system, at least remember to take in the lessons from doing so |
| 14:48.46 | Iridos | hm |
| 14:48.55 | babilen | Bombo: You should note that the amd64 kernel/i386 userland combo works, but is prone to problems when you have to compile modules for your kernel (fglrx, openafs, ...) |
| 14:49.13 | rozie | babilen: he just want to chroot into 64bit enviroment |
| 14:49.19 | *** join/#debian StefandeVries (~stefan@unaffiliated/stefandevries) |
| 14:49.37 | babilen | rozie: Ahh, ok. :) |
| 14:49.49 | Bombo | ok downloading with apt-get now |
| 14:49.55 | Iridos | what I really wonder... if you don't listen to the reply anyway, why do you bother to ask in the first place? |
| 14:50.15 | Iridos | seems a bit of a waste all around :) |
| 14:50.45 | babilen | Question is now: How to get rid of the forced amd64 package? (exercise is left to the reader) |
| 14:50.52 | Bombo | Iridos: no one answered in the first place, i read dpkg --help then and tried it out, and THEN you started to give the good hints ;) |
| 14:51.10 | Bombo | babilen: dpkg -r was that wrong? |
| 14:52.02 | Iridos | right! |
| 14:52.11 | Iridos | he waited a full 5 minutes to reply |
| 14:52.15 | babilen | Bombo: I would've purged it (with apt-get/aptitude) -- You rarely need to invoke dpkg directly. |
| 14:52.31 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 14:52.35 | babilen | But yeah, that was a good start. Installed the i386 package of the amd64 kernel now? |
| 14:52.43 | *** join/#debian aminpy (~aminpy@31.47.40.207) |
| 14:52.46 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 14:52.50 | Bombo | its still downloading |
| 14:54.41 | *** join/#debian jeremym (~jsmartin@32.97.110.55) |
| 14:55.29 | *** join/#debian gypsymauro (~colorioma@84.18.151.77) |
| 14:55.30 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 14:55.40 | gypsymauro | there is a tool to test filesystem performances? |
| 14:56.03 | babilen | gypsymauro: bonnie++ |
| 14:56.03 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-154-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:56.06 | Bombo | Iridos: sorry, i'm a little slow, ok, maybe i switch between screens to try out things, then go back here to read the new lines..., i'm only human |
| 14:58.08 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B283BBA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:58.08 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 15:00.07 | *** join/#debian bbhedia (84a6857a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.166.133.122) |
| 15:00.37 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:00.49 | *** join/#debian gentoo_drummer (~melodos@unaffiliated/gentoo-drummer/x-4353355) |
| 15:01.03 | gentoo_drummer | any easy ways to install ubuntu fonts on debian? |
| 15:02.01 | babilen | !tell gentoo_drummer -about font install |
| 15:02.28 | *** join/#debian BlueMatt (~matt@unaffiliated/bluematt) |
| 15:02.38 | gentoo_drummer | not sure if it's that easy.. |
| 15:02.54 | babilen | gentoo_drummer: Why shouldn't it? |
| 15:03.03 | KIAaze | !tell /me -about font install |
| 15:03.13 | babilen | !tell KIAaze -about selftell |
| 15:03.16 | babilen | KIAaze: :) |
| 15:04.15 | *** join/#debian cga_work (~cga@cemitftp.mondadori.it) |
| 15:04.24 | gentoo_drummer | babilen: i think there is a different rendering method |
| 15:04.29 | KIAaze | thx :) |
| 15:04.31 | gentoo_drummer | and I would need some libs for tht |
| 15:04.31 | *** part/#debian cga_work (~cga@cemitftp.mondadori.it) |
| 15:04.32 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 15:04.57 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 15:05.00 | *** part/#debian bbhedia (84a6857a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.166.133.122) |
| 15:05.12 | babilen | gentoo_drummer: Which fonts are we talking about here specifically? Why would they need a specific rendering method? What are you exactly trying to achieve by that? |
| 15:05.30 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p54BAD763.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:05.45 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 15:06.11 | babilen | gentoo_drummer: I am going full-crystal-ball now and assume that you would like to fix a TFT rendering issue in cairo, which requires a new cairo version. You can acquire a backported pacakge from http://mozilla.debian.net (it is a dependency of the new iceweasel packages there) |
| 15:06.59 | Amarande | while you're at it, upgrade your iceweasel there too. |
| 15:07.09 | Amarande | a lot of the web no longer really supports 3.x well at all anymore. |
| 15:07.12 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.119.130.114) |
| 15:07.21 | babilen | +1 |
| 15:07.33 | Amarande | babilen, heh, yes, like G+ |
| 15:07.34 | jhutchins_lt | !mdn |
| 15:07.34 | dpkg | Backports of the Iceweasel web browser and Icedove mail client are not available from <debian backports>. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for newer Iceweasel and Icedove for squeeze, wheezy or sid. Work continues to get the packages into the official archive without breaking too many other xul-using applications. Also ask me about <transition>, <squeeze-backports>, <testing>. |
| 15:07.40 | *** join/#debian zwerg (~quassel@ip-178-202-75-114.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 15:07.43 | *** join/#debian ner0x (~ner0x@c-24-3-132-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 15:07.44 | *** join/#debian deego (~user@unaffiliated/deego) |
| 15:07.47 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-248-116-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 15:07.50 | Amarande | I remember first installing squeeze, trying to go on G+ and getting "SORRY YOUR BROWSER ISN'T SUPPORTED" |
| 15:07.53 | *** join/#debian wo0f (~wo0f@5ad4f3d2.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:07.58 | babilen | Amarande: The usage of "+1" is *much* older than Google Plus </offtopic> |
| 15:08.04 | zwerg | Hello. |
| 15:08.49 | babilen | Amarande: Ah, EUNDERSTANDING :) |
| 15:08.58 | babilen | zwerg: Moin |
| 15:09.03 | *** part/#debian gentoo_drummer (~melodos@unaffiliated/gentoo-drummer/x-4353355) |
| 15:09.22 | zwerg | Is there any way to tell by which mechanism (wireless) network was configured? network-manager is not running and /etc/network/interfaces is empty, yet it is configured and connected. |
| 15:09.46 | *** join/#debian andatche (~andatche@mule.andatche.com) |
| 15:09.46 | babilen | zwerg: wicd? |
| 15:10.05 | Amarande | OTOH, at the Aurora end of things one runs into problems with the browser supporting things but some sites claiming that you can't use Firefox, because "only Chrome and Safari support HTML5" |
| 15:10.38 | *** part/#debian helpshae (~helpshae@h37.37.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 15:10.41 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure the Amazon web-based kindle cloud site should be runnable with Aurora, but it tells you "no, sorry, go get Chrome or Safari" |
| 15:10.58 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.75) |
| 15:11.02 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.75) |
| 15:11.04 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 15:11.12 | zwerg | babilen: wicd is not installed. |
| 15:11.28 | *** join/#debian helly (~helly@AOrleans-156-1-91-95.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:11.35 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 15:11.38 | *** part/#debian deego (~user@unaffiliated/deego) |
| 15:11.49 | zwerg | I had it configured with network-manager once, so the passphrase is stored somewhere, but shouldn't it be running then? |
| 15:11.52 | *** join/#debian dtw (~yaaic@117.136.19.138) |
| 15:12.36 | *** join/#debian demooriaan (~demooriaa@92.116.233.84) |
| 15:13.03 | babilen | zwerg: Check your /var/log/syslog (or paste it to http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 15:13.48 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@178-164-140-226.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 15:14.07 | babilen | zwerg: Also, what is the output of "ps aux|grep -i network" ? |
| 15:14.24 | *** join/#debian rye (~rtg@173.212.238.58) |
| 15:14.30 | zwerg | Ah. I only checked dmesg. And case sensitively. Thanks! |
| 15:14.55 | *** join/#debian eshat (~eshat@dslb-088-078-025-245.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:14.57 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h238n2c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 15:15.47 | babilen | zwerg: So? |
| 15:16.40 | zwerg | It seems NetworkManager is running. However no user interface tool interacting with it. So the clients store their connections persistently in NetworkManager? |
| 15:17.07 | Bombo | ok i'm ready to boot, you ready to laugh? ;) |
| 15:17.10 | *** join/#debian kkulhavy (~kkulhavy@imap.revamp-it.ch) |
| 15:17.42 | robin_sz | hmm, I pulled the "apache killer" CVE script, made it only test the vuln, ran it agaisnt my unpatched debain server and sure enough it said it was vulnerable, installed the current patched apache from security/updates and .. it still says its vulnerable? |
| 15:18.01 | babilen | zwerg: You can have system connection and per-user connections. See http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/SystemSettings for an overview. (typically still configured via nm-applet though -- If you tick the "available to all users" checkbox) |
| 15:19.05 | *** join/#debian zerohero (~zerohero@84-217-140-26.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 15:19.11 | *** join/#debian todd_ (5ddb7f3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.219.127.61) |
| 15:19.13 | zwerg | Okay, thanks. I thought if neither nm-applet nor the KDE plasma applet runs, NetworkManager does nothing. |
| 15:19.17 | todd_ | hi |
| 15:19.37 | todd_ | i would like to use debian as a productive server os |
| 15:19.57 | *** join/#debian phaidros (~phaidros@ghostshell.subsignal.org) |
| 15:20.25 | todd_ | are there any recommendations to on what i should adhere? |
| 15:20.37 | babilen | zwerg: Fortunately not (otherwise you would lose network-connectivity whenever X is not working which is, well, suboptimal |
| 15:20.48 | phaidros | I wonder once again: how does one set a policy that new files and directtories belong to a certain group? (e.g. not the users primary group, but the developers group ..) |
| 15:21.39 | babilen | todd_: Install Debian and configure/install the services that you want to offer. No specific installation is needed as there is no seperate "Server Edition" or so. |
| 15:21.56 | *** join/#debian Burgiking (~anonymous@5ad61bf5.bb.sky.com) |
| 15:22.04 | todd_ | babilen: and what is with LTS in debian? does it exist? |
| 15:22.18 | babilen | todd_: No, all releases are equal. |
| 15:22.26 | zwerg | babilen: Which was the case for me until a recent upgrade. Whenever there where problems with fglrx during reboot after an update I hat to manually configure my devices. Cool that it does not seem to be the case anymore. |
| 15:22.34 | phaidros | answer is: chmod 2775 group |
| 15:23.05 | todd_ | babilen: so if i remember correctly ubuntu 10.04 offers a LTS version which is supported 5 years long... isn't that a advantage to say, let's use ubuntu server edition? |
| 15:23.37 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-125-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 15:23.45 | *** join/#debian dobber (~dobber@213.169.45.222) |
| 15:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1106] by debhelper |
| 15:24.59 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@186.214.132.119) |
| 15:25.06 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 15:25.40 | babilen | todd_: Debian releases are supported for at least one year after a new release has been made (which happens roughly every 2 ½ years), so you get support for about 3 ½ years. The upgrade path between releases is also quite well tested and a priority in Debian's work. |
| 15:25.42 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 15:26.21 | todd_ | that's an argument |
| 15:27.04 | todd_ | babilen: the main purpose would be an lampp environment with some data security... that should be working well with debian, right? |
| 15:27.06 | babilen | todd_: Do you need an unchanging platform that is supported for 5+ years? |
| 15:27.15 | babilen | todd_: Sure |
| 15:27.15 | todd_ | babilen: no |
| 15:27.27 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:27.52 | *** join/#debian revil (~jan1s@178-66-239.dynamic.cyta.gr) |
| 15:27.57 | todd_ | babilen: may another question |
| 15:28.08 | todd_ | may i ask you another question about servers and cloud |
| 15:28.36 | todd_ | is it possiblt to host a server as a dedicated server, and if neede install a load balancer and use instances of amazons cloud? |
| 15:28.41 | revil | hi guys!! I installed kdevelop-php but I can't seem to find the executescript and the likes proposed for xdebug integration with kdevelop. Has anyone successfully debugged php through kdevelop? |
| 15:29.39 | babilen | todd_: I have never implemented that, but I don't see a specific/theoretical reasons why that shouldn't be possible. |
| 15:29.57 | *** join/#debian alexei_romanoff (~dr@178.120.108.208) |
| 15:29.58 | todd_ | okay |
| 15:30.01 | *** part/#debian alexei_romanoff (~dr@178.120.108.208) |
| 15:30.05 | todd_ | thanks for your information |
| 15:30.14 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 15:30.18 | *** join/#debian alexei_romanoff (~dr@178.120.108.208) |
| 15:30.21 | babilen | Enjoy the installation. You might want to read the installation guide |
| 15:30.24 | babilen | !tell todd_ -about ig |
| 15:30.51 | *** join/#debian dchapman1988 (~d@gateway/tor-sasl/dchapman1988) |
| 15:30.52 | todd_ | babilen: i would like to install it on virtual box :) |
| 15:31.24 | babilen | todd_: Sure, the installer is the same though |
| 15:31.36 | todd_ | cool |
| 15:31.38 | todd_ | thank you |
| 15:32.37 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 15:32.53 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@46.226.189.94) |
| 15:34.14 | *** join/#debian ring0 (~ring0@unaffiliated/ring0) |
| 15:35.22 | *** join/#debian dadall (~oser@163.5.174.231) |
| 15:36.07 | *** join/#debian jillsmitt_h_ (~jillsmitt@95.56.191.115) |
| 15:37.39 | *** join/#debian onosendai (~onosendai@unaffiliated/onosendai) |
| 15:38.58 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@211.81.48.178) |
| 15:39.49 | *** join/#debian ArchAttack (~ArchAttac@adsl-65-0-184-209.jan.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:40.05 | ArchAttack | why does debian do like 7 different versions of the same file |
| 15:40.08 | *** join/#debian TheDaniel0108 (~Daniel010@TouchLay/Founder/Daniel0108) |
| 15:40.16 | *** join/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@HSI-KBW-046-005-198-011.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 15:40.27 | ArchAttack | im installing debian now to learn it :P and its confusing me |
| 15:40.44 | petemc | ArchAttack: which file are you talking about? |
| 15:41.04 | *** join/#debian Gaijin__ (~user@unaffiliated/sologaijin) |
| 15:41.15 | ArchAttack | just in general they have like x-common x-devel etc |
| 15:41.39 | ArchAttack | whats the point of it is all i'm trying to figure out that way maybe i can understand why they do it |
| 15:42.08 | bregma | -dev packages contain developer-only files, -common contain things shared between different packages |
| 15:42.16 | babilen | ArchAttack: Please give a specific example as I am not sure what you are talking about exactly :) |
| 15:42.24 | jelly | ArchAttack: are you asking "why are there multiple binary packages generated out of the one source"? |
| 15:42.29 | *** join/#debian rascal999 (~aidan@unaffiliated/rascal999) |
| 15:42.34 | ArchAttack | yes jelly exactly |
| 15:42.40 | babilen | yay, jelly :) |
| 15:42.48 | jelly | ArchAttack: because not everyone needs all the bits. |
| 15:43.07 | bregma | most people do not need to, for example, install all the source headers and libraries for buildnig sofwtare against a package |
| 15:43.11 | ArchAttack | sorry i'm from arch we only have one binary for one source :P so i'm having to learn debian lingo |
| 15:44.48 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-248-116-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 15:44.52 | ArchAttack | i really really really love arch LOL but the AUR is really going to shit forgive my french, most of everything wont install anymore since the people arn't maintaining their files |
| 15:44.54 | *** join/#debian Jussi_ (~jussi@0132700296.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 15:44.58 | babilen | ArchAttack: Multiple binary package can be built from one source package in Debian. The organisation is typically done semantically in that, for example, headers (etc) are grouped in -dev packages, debug build can be found in -dbg ones, documentation (if large) is put into -doc packages and so on ... |
| 15:45.08 | ArchAttack | i am trying debian testing i figure its a tad stable but also near bleeding edge |
| 15:45.14 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 15:45.21 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 15:45.42 | rascal999 | http://pastebin.com/4txFZ4ue -- shouldn't line 18 be rwx? |
| 15:45.46 | babilen | ArchAttack: You might be interested in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable (tips apply to testing too) and #debian-next on irc.oftc.net in that case. |
| 15:47.03 | *** join/#debian Guest53930 (~kvirc@217.118.83.150) |
| 15:47.09 | *** join/#debian windparadise__ (~chatzilla@41-218-248-116-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 15:47.13 | ArchAttack | awww i can't join debian-next channel is invite only |
| 15:47.22 | *** join/#debian _SKiTZO (~la@247.84-48-174.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:47.23 | babilen | ArchAttack: On *irc.oftc.net* not here on freenode |
| 15:49.34 | twobitsprite | been a while since I've had to set up a mail server... is spamassassin still the preferred/recommended spam filter? |
| 15:49.44 | *** join/#debian hrodriguez231 (~rconiteg@200.55.169.6) |
| 15:49.51 | *** part/#debian hrodriguez231 (~rconiteg@200.55.169.6) |
| 15:49.58 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-248-116-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 15:50.42 | *** join/#debian rsampaio (~rodrigo@187.45.254.159) |
| 15:50.50 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.77.241.151) |
| 15:50.58 | *** join/#debian tetreb (~tetreb@93-82-85-194.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 15:51.07 | *** join/#debian marcuspat (~marcuspat@c-71-56-144-183.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 15:52.48 | *** join/#debian totte (~totte@unaffiliated/totte) |
| 15:53.23 | *** join/#debian BladeFreak (~BladeFrea@unaffiliated/bladefreak) |
| 15:53.48 | *** join/#debian alazare619 (~alazare61@ip68-103-168-92.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 15:53.58 | alazare619 | can someone tell me how to have an app submitted to backports? |
| 15:54.28 | babilen | alazare619: Do you want to maintain a backported package? |
| 15:54.29 | *** join/#debian siya (~djerk@cust9-dsl91-135-5.idnet.net) |
| 15:55.05 | babilen | alazare619: Read http://backports-master.debian.org/Contribute/ in that case. Which package is it? |
| 15:55.16 | alazare619 | i could its pre packaged |
| 15:55.33 | babilen | pre-packaged? |
| 15:55.48 | alazare619 | well its a deb already |
| 15:55.53 | alazare619 | but its a rpm converted to deb |
| 15:56.02 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 15:56.52 | *** join/#debian Slystone (~stony1@245.47.4.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 15:57.02 | alazare619 | its a bit torrent client called tixati |
| 15:57.03 | babilen | alazare619: So the package is not even in Debian yet? I also doubt that the converted rpm meets Debian's packaging standards. Please note that a package has to be in testing first for it to be backported. |
| 15:57.35 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 15:57.36 | *** join/#debian EyesIsMine (~Eyes@host86-166-173-193.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:57.44 | alazare619 | how could i go about all this to expodite it as its the only package left in my distro thats not in the official repo's |
| 15:57.48 | alazare619 | or backports |
| 15:57.54 | *** join/#debian EyesIsMine (~Eyes@unaffiliated/eyesismine) |
| 15:59.01 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 15:59.11 | babilen | alazare619: Well, you need to package it first. (Read "/msg dpkg nmg") file an ITP (/msg dpkg itp) for it before you start working on it. Once you are done with your packaging you have to find a sponsor who will review and upload your package. |
| 15:59.17 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-232-32-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 15:59.25 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.119.130.114) |
| 15:59.53 | babilen | alazare619: Please note that the output of the "alien" tool is *not* a package that will be accepted into Debian. |
| 15:59.55 | *** join/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.75) |
| 15:59.59 | *** part/#debian binbinsh (~binbinsh@58.60.1.75) |
| 16:00.00 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-127.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 16:00.07 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-080-228-199-232.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 16:00.29 | alazare619 | ok babilen last question then, they dont have the source published how can i go about this then? |
| 16:00.49 | babilen | alazare619: You can not package something for which the code is not available. |
| 16:01.01 | alazare619 | but they do have a manual binary |
| 16:01.38 | *** join/#debian systemclient (~systemcli@p5B379E96.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:01.46 | alazare619 | wich its just a bin |
| 16:02.02 | systemclient | can I view pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org in KNode in some way (it is not in Gmane)? |
| 16:02.08 | babilen | alazare619: tixaty does not seem to be open-source software |
| 16:02.23 | alazare619 | its not but its based on opensource objects... |
| 16:02.32 | alazare619 | libtorrent lib raster etc |
| 16:02.47 | babilen | systemclient: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo |
| 16:03.29 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 16:03.55 | *** join/#debian Daniel0108 (~Daniel010@2001:4ba0:cafe:4d8::1) |
| 16:03.55 | *** join/#debian Guest83336 (~Mkaysi@2001:4ba0:cafe:4d8::1) |
| 16:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1112] by debhelper |
| 16:04.04 | babilen | alazare619: It will not meet the DFSG in that case and will almost certainly not be accepted into the archive. (Even if upstream would allow distribution of the binaries) |
| 16:04.05 | systemclient | babilen: this is what I found: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers/ |
| 16:04.22 | babilen | systemclient: isn't that what you are looking for? |
| 16:04.29 | *** join/#debian Mkaysi|ZNC_ (Mkaysi@adsl-215-253-18.kymp.net) |
| 16:04.36 | systemclient | babilen: I would like to read it in my newsreader, not with tons of emails |
| 16:05.03 | babilen | systemclient: I am not sure if a ML→NNTP gateway exists for it. |
| 16:05.06 | alazare619 | its a shame as its probably the best bittorrent client out atm |
| 16:05.09 | *** join/#debian sidro (~sidro@86.120.61.72) |
| 16:05.17 | *** join/#debian ruied_ (~ruied@19.198.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 16:05.44 | systemclient | babilen: can something like that be set up (I have an Ubuntu Server somewhere)? |
| 16:06.13 | *** join/#debian quasisane (~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 16:06.48 | *** join/#debian cygnus0111 (~janik@xdsl-83-150-84-65.nebulazone.fi) |
| 16:07.11 | Jakky | does anyone know of statistics of usage share between stable/testing and apt-get/aptitude ? |
| 16:07.13 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-236-147-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 16:07.20 | babilen | systemclient: Sure, subscribe to the ML and (somehow/magically) offer it via NNTP ... Take a look at , for example, "pyg" -- Never done/used that so there might be better ways. |
| 16:07.22 | babilen | ,info pyg |
| 16:07.24 | judd | Package pyg (news, optional) in squeeze/i386: Python Mail <-> News Gateway. Version: 0.9.7+b1; Size: 28.3k; Installed: 192k |
| 16:07.46 | pygmy | you rang? |
| 16:07.48 | pygmy | :) |
| 16:07.52 | *** join/#debian jillsmitt_h_ (~jillsmitt@95.56.165.130) |
| 16:08.06 | systemclient | it is kinda like using "stu" as a nick ;-) |
| 16:08.08 | *** join/#debian vastok (~istok@cable-188-2-53-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 16:08.33 | *** join/#debian sidro (~sidro@86.120.61.72) |
| 16:09.10 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 16:09.19 | *** join/#debian prometoys (~prometoys@2001:638:504:f1aa:21a:80ff:fe59:da7b) |
| 16:09.38 | *** join/#debian ksheurs (~sheursk@nyv-exweb.iac.com) |
| 16:09.58 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 16:10.43 | prometoys | hi, installed squeeze with cdebootstrap, installed kernel etc, but it won't boot. it fails to start the raid1 (mdadm) |
| 16:11.15 | prometoys | i got trapped in busybox, where I can start the raid and activate the LVM vg and then it boots |
| 16:11.32 | prometoys | but I don't know where to fix it, any ideas? |
| 16:12.04 | *** join/#debian sneezewort (~hbarrett@129.24.63.254) |
| 16:13.55 | *** join/#debian nathwill (~nathwill@nat/yahoo/x-ywwsfdrjwfsxwpca) |
| 16:15.39 | *** join/#debian Ergo^_ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 16:16.19 | *** join/#debian eternity13 (eternity13@93.177.247.54) |
| 16:16.33 | *** join/#debian waka (~wakariera@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 16:17.34 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 16:17.42 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@2a01:e35:39c0:580:215:afff:fea2:cf66) |
| 16:18.38 | *** join/#debian ulaek (~ulaek@0x4dd53016.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:18.51 | *** join/#debian JohnTortugo (~john@143.106.196.246) |
| 16:18.53 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~5678@host86-134-121-232.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:19.26 | *** join/#debian chriswaterguy (~chatzilla@180.252.105.123) |
| 16:21.22 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:24.11 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 16:24.51 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@pdpc/supporter/active/pzn) |
| 16:25.54 | pzn | I have a debian LTSP server, with 14 diskless debian stations. using Squeeze. I need to plug a pendrive in the diskless station and see it in users'gnome interface. is this possible? any hint or URL? |
| 16:25.58 | *** join/#debian Protux (~Protux@241.164.66.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:26.30 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 16:26.57 | *** join/#debian dschoepe (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 16:27.26 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@2a02:6b8:0:408:d035:1b30:dc9e:56d1) |
| 16:28.49 | *** join/#debian Mkaysi|ZNC_ (~Mkaysi@2001:4ba0:cafe:4d8::1) |
| 16:29.00 | *** join/#debian g0bl1n (~prokter@a213-22-27-14.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 16:29.00 | *** join/#debian g0bl1n (~prokter@unaffiliated/g0bl1n) |
| 16:30.03 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99.196.115.141) |
| 16:30.04 | *** join/#debian jal93 (~IceChat77@217.118.83.150) |
| 16:30.09 | *** join/#debian Mkaysi|ZNC_ (~Mkaysi@TouchLay/Member/Mkaysi) |
| 16:30.13 | *** join/#debian drinkycrow (~dead@c-68-58-76-30.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:30.19 | *** join/#debian Daniel0108 (~Daniel010@2001:4ba0:cafe:4d8::1) |
| 16:31.46 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 16:31.52 | *** join/#debian Daniel0108 (~Daniel010@TouchLay/Founder/Daniel0108) |
| 16:32.07 | *** join/#debian Strife89 (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) |
| 16:32.13 | *** join/#debian philips (~philips@opensuse/member/philipsb) |
| 16:32.33 | *** join/#debian totte (~totte@unaffiliated/totte) |
| 16:33.26 | zumbi | hi! Can I just drop a file under /etc/rcS.d/ with a dummy init header and expect it wot work? |
| 16:34.25 | somiaj | zumbi: you can but that is bad praticies. |
| 16:34.42 | somiaj | zumbi: you put the script in /etc/init.d/ (with the correct headders and able to accept start/stop/reload) |
| 16:34.55 | somiaj | zumbi: you then use update-rc.d to create a link to that file in /etc/rcS.d/ |
| 16:35.10 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 16:35.11 | zumbi | somiaj: well, I have been trying, but it does not want to run on squeeze, while it used to work on lenny and before |
| 16:35.19 | somiaj | zumbi: check /etc/init.d/skeleton and /etc/rcS.d/README |
| 16:35.31 | zumbi | somiaj: thanks |
| 16:35.34 | zumbi | will do |
| 16:36.52 | somiaj | zumbi: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 16:36.54 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@p5B283BBA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:37.02 | *** join/#debian peppe2 (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 16:37.26 | *** join/#debian nathan_w (~nathwill@209.131.56.12) |
| 16:37.41 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-131-188-112.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:37.44 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 16:38.33 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 16:38.34 | *** join/#debian xakz (~XaMaD@2a01:e35:2e6f:ee20:218:8bff:fecc:d7d5) |
| 16:38.52 | zumbi | somiaj: yes, I was reading that page |
| 16:39.01 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.210.15) |
| 16:40.09 | *** join/#debian mark_u (~Mark@S0106001c10f595bb.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 16:42.50 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 16:42.59 | zumbi | somiaj: jfi, it looks like initscripts does not like to have a file in /etc/rcS.d but symlinks, I got that part, but then my script runs at shutdown and not at boot... /me continues debugging |
| 16:43.32 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.77.241.151) |
| 16:43.47 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@unaffiliated/neerolyte) |
| 16:43.57 | somiaj | zumbi: because /etc/rcS.d is the set of scripts that get run at shutdown |
| 16:44.24 | somiaj | zumbi: you want to also put links in /etc/rc1.d and /etc/rc2.d for startup, 1 = single user, 2 = default multi user. |
| 16:44.53 | zumbi | somiaj: rcS.d runs always even as single user |
| 16:45.06 | zumbi | then it used to run init 2 |
| 16:45.34 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 16:45.38 | zumbi | but it looks like the system I am working on likes to run init 1, I think I am missing that link |
| 16:45.53 | zumbi | anyhow, somiaj, thanks, I think I more or less got it working |
| 16:46.18 | somiaj | zumbi: rcS.d is the 'S'hutdown scripts |
| 16:47.29 | *** join/#debian elmargol (~elmargol@host224-110-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:47.47 | abrotman | uh .. S is single user |
| 16:48.00 | abrotman | !run levels |
| 16:48.07 | somiaj | abrotman: oh it is...sorry for missinfo. :/ |
| 16:48.11 | zumbi | somiaj: exec /etc/init.d/rc S |
| 16:48.14 | somiaj | zumbi: don't listen to me. (: |
| 16:48.23 | zumbi | S likely from 'S'tart |
| 16:48.27 | abrotman | Single |
| 16:48.35 | zumbi | ok, Single |
| 16:48.43 | *** join/#debian PhilSliderS (~kvirc@2a01:e35:2f26:89b0:8a6:6208:b615:25d8) |
| 16:49.02 | somiaj | http://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel -- then is the wiki wrong? |
| 16:49.07 | abrotman | or perhaps even i'm wrong ... |
| 16:49.08 | zumbi | dpkg: run levels |
| 16:49.09 | dpkg | zumbi: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 16:49.10 | abrotman | 1 is singl |
| 16:49.19 | abrotman | 0 and 6 are different types of shutdown |
| 16:49.21 | somiaj | oh wait, I missread it....S is reserved for single user...:/ |
| 16:49.54 | somiaj | "Runlevels 0, 6 and S are reserved for shutdown, reboot and single user mode respectively." |
| 16:50.05 | abrotman | i give up |
| 16:50.23 | abrotman | must have just misread a different man page |
| 16:50.52 | zumbi | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html#_stage_4_the_normal_debian_system |
| 16:50.59 | *** join/#debian nicoulaj (~nicoulaj@pas38-5-82-244-59-208.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:51.01 | *** join/#debian vazel (~wizl@ahrinia.net) |
| 16:51.11 | abrotman | should i ask what the real question is ? :) |
| 16:51.24 | somiaj | abrotman: thank you for the correction. (: |
| 16:52.03 | zumbi | abrotman: well, I used to have a file under rcS.d running at boot time, but then it does not want to run with squeeze new system |
| 16:52.20 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41.218.239.90) |
| 16:52.33 | *** join/#debian alazare619 (~alazare61@ip68-103-168-92.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 16:52.34 | zumbi | abrotman: I was trying to get it LSB compliant, but it just does not want to run at boot, it now runs at shutdown |
| 16:52.39 | abrotman | zumbi: dependency based boot system ? |
| 16:52.40 | zumbi | but I'm still debugging |
| 16:52.55 | *** join/#debian TheDaniel0108 (~Daniel010@TouchLay/Founder/Daniel0108) |
| 16:52.57 | zumbi | abrotman: yes, that new system is driving me nuts |
| 16:53.01 | abrotman | zumbi: did you paste the script somewhere? and why rcS ? |
| 16:53.28 | zumbi | abrotman: well, I am rewriting the script based on skeleton |
| 16:53.46 | abrotman | yes, but why rcS ? |
| 16:53.53 | zumbi | it is some custom stuff that I run once the machine boots for first time, then it deletes itself |
| 16:54.07 | zumbi | and finalizes the device installation |
| 16:54.12 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.50.28.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:54.42 | zumbi | abrotman: well, it does not really matter rcS or rc2 I guess |
| 16:54.45 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@rc137-1-82-233-159-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:54.53 | abrotman | so why not rc1 or rc2 ? or just run a script after it boots? |
| 16:55.24 | *** join/#debian Strife1989 (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) |
| 16:55.47 | *** part/#debian systemclient (~systemcli@p5B379E96.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:55.49 | zumbi | how do you 'automatically' run a script after it boots? |
| 16:56.28 | *** join/#debian BlueMatt (~matt@unaffiliated/bluematt) |
| 16:56.31 | abrotman | how do you automatically set one up to run at the first boot? |
| 16:57.46 | zumbi | abrotman: ok, I got an initrd which does it |
| 16:58.17 | somiaj | zumbi: there is an /etc/rc.local for multi-user runmodes. |
| 16:58.24 | *** join/#debian Dulcin (~Dulcin@s5597dcc9.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 16:58.54 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@187.107.36.76) |
| 16:58.55 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 16:59.50 | zumbi | somiaj: uhm.. thanks, that might be useful |
| 17:02.39 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:02.57 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@h-16-247.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 17:03.23 | *** join/#debian jaytaph (~jaytaph@dhcp-077-249-050-185.chello.nl) |
| 17:03.34 | *** join/#debian chaisen1 (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:05.16 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 17:05.46 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 17:05.55 | *** join/#debian rrrreimer (~rrrreimer@krsn-4d0b8a9f.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:06.03 | *** join/#debian sontek (~sontek@opensuse/member/Sontek) |
| 17:06.20 | sontek | whats apt-get's version of yum whatprovides? I need to know what package contains the file |
| 17:06.21 | *** join/#debian atmark (~atmark@fedora/atmark) |
| 17:06.46 | *** join/#debian lissyx (~alex@2a01:240:fe3c:3:221:6bff:fe12:74cc) |
| 17:07.11 | Jakky | why doesn't APT honor my /etc/apt/preferences ? http://paste.debian.net/133867/ |
| 17:08.22 | *** join/#debian wd3 (~wd@adsl-75-47-232-175.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:09.09 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@2.107.15.157) |
| 17:09.37 | *** join/#debian dominiq (~dominiq@ppp-148-31.26-151.libero.it) |
| 17:09.37 | *** join/#debian xJaM (~xJaM@cpe-46-164-25-154.dynamic.amis.net) |
| 17:11.07 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 17:11.23 | *** join/#debian localhost (~chris@cpe-76-188-161-222.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 17:11.46 | *** join/#debian demooriaan (~demooriaa@46.115.9.236) |
| 17:12.14 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 17:12.16 | *** join/#debian rrrreimer (~rrrreimer@krsn-4d0b8a9f.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:13.15 | *** join/#debian ZenGeist (~spectre@80.250.163.84) |
| 17:13.17 | *** join/#debian notrev (~everton@unaffiliated/notrev) |
| 17:13.39 | ZenGeist | does anybody have Sonar (green) theme for openbox? |
| 17:13.42 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@103-182-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 17:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1124] by debhelper |
| 17:15.00 | *** join/#debian gimpy1328 (~jaw171@jaw171.noc.pitt.edu) |
| 17:15.05 | *** join/#debian boxysean (~root@li289-61.members.linode.com) |
| 17:15.33 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 17:16.14 | seb82 | where can I find a sarge iso? |
| 17:16.57 | gimpy1328 | So I'm thinking about replacing my university's timesharing service with a Debian box (it runs Soloris now), does anyone have any thoughts on how to best secure it? It has been hacked a few times before so I'm thinking of goign as far as a chroot for each user but I'm not sure if that is as secure as I think it would be. |
| 17:17.28 | seb82 | gimpy1328.. how bout schroot? |
| 17:17.39 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@bband-dyn220.178-40-198.t-com.sk) |
| 17:17.46 | seb82 | or ssh |
| 17:17.56 | GNU\colossus | seb82, somewhere on http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I guess |
| 17:18.00 | somiaj | seb82: check archive.debian.org |
| 17:18.05 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone) |
| 17:18.11 | gimpy1328 | seb82: Never heard of schroot, ssh is how they remote in. |
| 17:18.36 | seb82 | GNU\colossus, somiaj, I'm looking but there's nothing there for cd's? |
| 17:18.56 | somiaj | seb82: yea you might have to use debootstrap to install on the hd then |
| 17:19.10 | seb82 | somiaj, I tried that... but I'm having issues with grub |
| 17:19.28 | PerfDave | gimpy1328: Read the Securing Debian Guide? :) |
| 17:19.44 | seb82 | gimpy1328: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 |
| 17:20.00 | *** join/#debian Jakky (~brevit@e181205020.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:20.01 | PerfDave | gimpy1328: What does this machine actually need to do for its users? |
| 17:20.21 | *** join/#debian Snarkata (~SnarkRube@103.240.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 17:20.32 | PerfDave | would recommend pam_cracklib to enforce strong passwords, process limits, locked-down umasks, and logwatch and apt-listupdates to keep things up to date and spot suspicious foo. |
| 17:20.37 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@216.207.36.222) |
| 17:20.38 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 17:20.38 | *** join/#debian celord (~celord@201.198.102.2) |
| 17:21.21 | PerfDave | But there's a Debian security guide :) |
| 17:21.28 | *** join/#debian locojay (~locojay@pool-108-6-12-127.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:22.12 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 17:22.21 | seb82 | PerfDave, where can we find that? |
| 17:22.36 | PerfDave | On debian.org ;) |
| 17:22.40 | *** join/#debian vilpan (~vilius@88.119.197.33) |
| 17:22.55 | alazare619 | anyone here a+ certified or N+ if so where can i go about geting certified |
| 17:23.16 | PerfDave | alazare619: A+ certified in what? |
| 17:23.29 | alazare619 | pc repair |
| 17:23.37 | alazare619 | gen pc repair |
| 17:23.39 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-233-71-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 17:23.41 | gimpy1328 | PerfDave: It would be a linux box *anyone* can log into and get their mail (for our ye olde users of pine), compile software, code things for some engineering coures, etc. |
| 17:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1130] by debhelper |
| 17:24.17 | gimpy1328 | alazare619: CompTIA? Worthless imho. |
| 17:24.22 | PerfDave | http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#securing |
| 17:24.24 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 17:24.36 | seb82 | GNU\colossus, somiaj, I found it at cdimage.debian.org |
| 17:24.49 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 17:24.49 | PerfDave | gimpy1328: Make sure you make sensible use of ulimit :) |
| 17:24.50 | *** join/#debian magnet_ (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 17:24.58 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@93-46-2-117.ip105.fastwebnet.it) |
| 17:25.06 | alazare619 | gimpy1328, well a job im applying for requires the certification...tho i know way more then i know what its going to ask for but just curious like how much would it run me...i mean i can do even novell networking but im not certified... |
| 17:25.07 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 17:25.11 | GNU\colossus | seb82, great :) |
| 17:25.12 | *** join/#debian borkd (~borkd@borkd.org) |
| 17:25.14 | *** join/#debian trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623) |
| 17:25.41 | vilpan | hi, is it possible to have multiple keyboard layouts and setup language switching shortcut without having xorg.conf? I've set the layouts with setxkbmap, but don't know how to setup a keyboard shortcut for switching between those, without using xkboptions in xorg.conf (which I don't have and X fails to start if I generate one with X -configure, didn't figure this out yet...) |
| 17:26.05 | borkd | hi, is installing the base system and then the gnome-desktop package the same contents as lenny cd 1 if gnome is selected there? |
| 17:26.06 | gimpy1328 | PerfDave: Yea, right now the Solaris box is deemed a dangerous box that can't touch anything else within our network. It's not even backed up regularly. |
| 17:26.18 | kkulhavy | I cant print on our CUPS server anymore, printing worked, then there were some problems with cables to the printer, so I took the printer to my desk, put new cables, tested it pings reliably, now when I print from evince or LibreOffice I don't get anything in lpq -a or printer que in CUPS administration http://localhost:631. Also evince says the printer is "Rejecting Jobs" and CUPS administration on http://localhost:631 says the printer is "Frei" (f |
| 17:26.18 | kkulhavy | ree?) |
| 17:26.39 | seb82 | how can I make a usb-key an install-usb-key when I have an usb-key and an iso? |
| 17:26.57 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@c-98-236-71-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 17:26.58 | kkulhavy | Seb82: cat iso > usb_key |
| 17:27.04 | PerfDave | gimpy1328: Seems sensble for a general compile box :) |
| 17:27.14 | seb82 | kk thx kkulhavy... |
| 17:27.46 | kkulhavy | Seb82 or even better use the "pv" program then u see if data are actually flowing into the USB key or not |
| 17:27.55 | kkulhavy | how much flowed |
| 17:28.01 | kkulhavy | how fast it flows |
| 17:28.25 | gimpy1328 | alazare619: Many jobs specify a certain cert but don't really need it if you prove you know what you need to know. Of course ymmv. Go to CompTIAs Website for pricing and such, we don't have the answers. |
| 17:28.32 | seb82 | kkulhavy, pv? |
| 17:28.43 | kkulhavy | seb82, yes, apt-get install pv |
| 17:29.04 | kkulhavy | seb82 then u use pv < iso > usb_stick |
| 17:29.10 | seb82 | kk |
| 17:29.13 | alazare619 | yea i konw all the stuff its just the certificate...i found the pricing...but damn idk if i wana spend that just to have a certificate you know.. |
| 17:29.32 | gimpy1328 | PerfDave: True, but if it gets hacked or dies it is a huge pain to bring it back. There's lots of software on there, some of it not free so we would have to hunt down licenses. |
| 17:30.28 | seb82 | thx PerfDave |
| 17:30.34 | *** part/#debian borkd (~borkd@borkd.org) |
| 17:31.00 | PerfDave | gimpy1328: How will you cope with that when you move to Debian? |
| 17:31.12 | *** join/#debian bregma (~stephenw@74.198.165.26) |
| 17:31.40 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 17:31.54 | seb82 | does pv need <>? |
| 17:32.27 | *** join/#debian mibocote (~matt@bluemavid.com) |
| 17:33.28 | *** join/#debian Jakky (~brevit@e181205020.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:34.34 | *** join/#debian cmyers (~cmyers@ip2.cmyers.org) |
| 17:34.44 | seb82 | nvm |
| 17:35.08 | seb82 | brb |
| 17:35.10 | *** join/#debian Pryon (~Pryon@animalcules.com) |
| 17:36.10 | *** join/#debian marcuspat (~marcuspat@74-92-164-118-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:36.24 | kkulhavy | can someone help me with the printing please? |
| 17:36.56 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.210.15) |
| 17:38.48 | *** join/#debian mibocote (~matt@bluemavid.com) |
| 17:39.37 | alazare619 | what folder has the default layout for the directory |
| 17:39.41 | alazare619 | blah.. |
| 17:39.53 | alazare619 | what directory is the information for the default user theme background etc |
| 17:40.26 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~michael@99.148.198.122) |
| 17:40.43 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@c-98-236-71-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 17:41.15 | *** join/#debian rolandpish (~pish@186.4.58.206) |
| 17:41.52 | *** join/#debian windparadise_ (~chatzilla@41-218-255-104-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 17:42.18 | *** join/#debian redrs (~redrs@li230-94.members.linode.com) |
| 17:42.31 | seb82 | i'm gonna try the sarge-netinstall-usb-boot-disk.. |
| 17:43.47 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:43.55 | simonlnu | alazare619: for your user? in ~/ ;p. ~/.themes; none for background |
| 17:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1122] by debhelper |
| 17:44.27 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:44.28 | *** join/#debian grok0 (~o~o@unaffiliated/o-/x-1234567) |
| 17:44.31 | alazare619 | ooo i get it |
| 17:44.40 | alazare619 | so /etc/skel is the skeletal layout |
| 17:45.02 | alazare619 | so if i copy my /home directory to skeletal it will have whatever i have configure in the default then correct? |
| 17:45.22 | *** join/#debian d1b (~db@d1b.org) |
| 17:45.48 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.139.57.91) |
| 17:45.51 | *** join/#debian DAMN3dg1rl (~nicole@unaffiliated/damn3dg1rl) |
| 17:46.01 | *** part/#debian DAMN3dg1rl (~nicole@unaffiliated/damn3dg1rl) |
| 17:46.01 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-254-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 17:46.27 | *** join/#debian mibocote (~matt@bluemavid.com) |
| 17:46.56 | *** join/#debian windparadise (~chatzilla@41-218-242-111-adsl-dyn.4u.com.gh) |
| 17:47.08 | *** join/#debian Parsifal (~steven@palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au) |
| 17:47.37 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 17:47.45 | *** join/#debian Pryon (~Pryon@animalcules.com) |
| 17:48.10 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.77.241.151) |
| 17:48.21 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 17:48.22 | *** join/#debian cmyers (~cmyers@ip2.cmyers.org) |
| 17:48.46 | *** join/#debian redrs (~redrs@li230-94.members.linode.com) |
| 17:48.56 | alazare619 | i just cant wrap my head around it |
| 17:48.59 | *** join/#debian initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) |
| 17:49.41 | *** join/#debian spowers (~sam@j3b.us) |
| 17:49.53 | PerfDave | alazare619: When you create a new user, its home directory will be a copy of /etc/skel |
| 17:50.08 | alazare619 | but how do i setup the /etc/skel |
| 17:50.21 | alazare619 | say i want a blank layout other then a specific background and a specific gtk theme |
| 17:50.49 | *** join/#debian ajaykools (~ajay@117.192.210.15) |
| 17:51.39 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) |
| 17:51.58 | PerfDave | alazare619: Youw ant to change somethign for all new users you create? |
| 17:52.06 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 17:52.23 | alazare619 | yes just the default theme n background |
| 17:52.27 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-vinice.pilsfree.net) |
| 17:52.56 | *** join/#debian nathan_w (~nathwill@nat/yahoo/x-gtnhnfkpvcbkepht) |
| 17:53.53 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-247-105.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 17:54.44 | *** join/#debian G_O_D (~marco@host103.190-231-24.telecom.net.ar) |
| 17:54.47 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:54.54 | *** join/#debian eternity13 (eternity13@93.177.247.54) |
| 17:56.30 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:56.49 | *** join/#debian ElectricMinD (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 17:57.21 | *** join/#debian lyte_ (~lyte@114-198-64-242.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 17:57.28 | *** join/#debian katsrc (~quassel@cpe-69-203-198-189.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 17:58.05 | *** join/#debian larsivi (~quassel@188.113.74.106) |
| 17:58.48 | *** join/#debian vstrider (~vstrider@79.167.174.249) |
| 17:58.52 | alazare619 | ok all im trying to do is figure out where the defaults are for theme and background picture is all i want |
| 17:59.01 | *** join/#debian FlowChart (~Miranda@dialin-hb-80-228-58-197.ewetel.net) |
| 17:59.20 | PerfDave | alazare619: You want to change the default GNOME theme and background picture for all newly-created users? |
| 17:59.30 | alazare619 | pretty much |
| 17:59.34 | alazare619 | but i use xfce |
| 17:59.37 | alazare619 | wich is gtk |
| 17:59.58 | simonlnu | there is none for gtk |
| 18:00.36 | alazare619 | ok i know there is a config somewhere being as the setting is always the same background when i create a new user |
| 18:00.39 | alazare619 | its the default debian |
| 18:00.44 | alazare619 | so there must be some config somewhere |
| 18:00.46 | *** join/#debian evilbulgarian (~vladi@66-192-149-18.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 18:01.18 | simonlnu | default debian what? |
| 18:01.20 | PerfDave | alazare619: You might want to ask #gnome |
| 18:01.45 | PerfDave | There may even be a #debian-gnome on OFTC |
| 18:02.04 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~michael@99.148.198.122) |
| 18:02.13 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 18:02.15 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-247-105.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 18:03.09 | *** join/#debian aksn (~Username@231.pool85-60-158.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 18:03.14 | *** join/#debian Arrick (~Arrick_@unaffiliated/arrick) |
| 18:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1128] by debhelper |
| 18:04.09 | Arrick | hey all, i am trying to get multiple sites enabled in apache2, and the current stable distro, but I cant figure out where I have to uncomment the NameVirtualHost * at, can someone point me to it? |
| 18:04.41 | *** join/#debian NoBrainNoGain (~zgjbktx@201.67.79.207) |
| 18:05.01 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 18:05.14 | Bushmills | Arrick: you create configurations for your virtual hosts, by putting them into /etc/apache2/sites-available, and activate them with a2ensite |
| 18:05.15 | *** join/#debian Daniel0108 (~Daniel010@TouchLay/Founder/Daniel0108) |
| 18:05.20 | *** join/#debian kuznetzvo (~kuznetzvo@rrcs-71-40-155-170.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:05.45 | Arrick | ok, can you point me to a tutorial on the a2ensite? |
| 18:06.13 | Bushmills | man a2ensite |
| 18:06.14 | gimpy1328 | Arrick: man a2ensite |
| 18:06.51 | *** join/#debian jillsmitt_h_ (~jillsmitt@92.47.219.129) |
| 18:07.31 | *** join/#debian aksn (~Username@231.pool85-60-158.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 18:07.46 | Arrick | a2ensite not found |
| 18:08.26 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-17-133.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 18:08.37 | alazare619 | ok PerfDave i found the files there in ~!/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml |
| 18:08.59 | alazare619 | now what do i do to have those in my etc/skel |
| 18:09.20 | PerfDave | alazare619: There's no such thing as "your" /etc/skel, there's everybody's /etc/skel |
| 18:09.29 | alazare619 | thats what i mean |
| 18:09.37 | alazare619 | how do i make those apart of the skeletal layout |
| 18:11.01 | alazare619 | one is named xfce4-desktop.xml and the other is xsettings.xml |
| 18:13.55 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-88-152-225-144.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:14.13 | gimpy1328 | Arrick: You need to be root or use sudo. |
| 18:14.20 | Arrick | yeah, figured that out, lol |
| 18:14.24 | Arrick | thanks |
| 18:14.28 | *** join/#debian spal (~susam@pdpc/supporter/active/spal) |
| 18:14.45 | *** join/#debian martchukov (~antonm@deneb.hm.martchukov.com) |
| 18:15.53 | j-v-e | does anybody know an open source online collaboration tool ? something between a forum, a task manager, etc... |
| 18:16.10 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:17.55 | *** join/#debian demooriaan (~demooriaa@46.115.20.142) |
| 18:18.34 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: like trac? |
| 18:19.04 | *** join/#debian Dulcin (~Dulcin@s5597dcc9.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 18:19.07 | daemonkeeper | Or Redmine or whatever cool kids use today. |
| 18:19.11 | frikinz | there's also fusionforge |
| 18:19.17 | j-v-e | dondelelcaro: less code oriented, more like social work. It's for a non profit that organises music festivals |
| 18:20.03 | j-v-e | there's no chance that those people are going to use trac |
| 18:20.05 | *** part/#debian Arrick (~Arrick_@unaffiliated/arrick) |
| 18:20.12 | j-v-e | it's way too complex |
| 18:20.20 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: well, most of the really good OS ones are going to be code-oriented; that said, it's pretty easy to adopt code-oriented pathways to other projects |
| 18:20.23 | *** join/#debian hrodriguez231 (~rconiteg@200.55.169.6) |
| 18:20.28 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: since what you're really talking about is project management |
| 18:20.42 | j-v-e | well, yes and no |
| 18:21.00 | j-v-e | project management is really about management ressources, with a notion of cost attached to it |
| 18:21.09 | *** part/#debian hrodriguez231 (~rconiteg@200.55.169.6) |
| 18:21.16 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: not necessarily |
| 18:21.30 | *** join/#debian buribu (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribu) |
| 18:21.30 | *** join/#debian buribux (~buribu@unaffiliated/buribux) |
| 18:21.39 | tharkun | s/cost/time/ |
| 18:21.45 | j-v-e | I could give it a shot, any good project management tool then ? |
| 18:21.56 | PerfDave | alazare619: You just create the same path within /etc/skel as within your home dir |
| 18:22.04 | PerfDave | j-v-e: Request Tracker? |
| 18:22.22 | alazare619 | kk |
| 18:22.30 | *** join/#debian househead (~househead@gateway/tor-sasl/househead) |
| 18:22.31 | PerfDave | It's a ticketing system, pretty simple. |
| 18:24.04 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: there's opensched, kplato, kfocus, etc. |
| 18:24.11 | j-v-e | hummm... I'm not sure what I want yet, but RT won't do, I can't have them manage tickets, there just not enough incentive and the system will get abandonned after a few weeks |
| 18:24.27 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: but it's unfotunately a realm where there's not a whole lot of OS tools around |
| 18:25.10 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: in situtations like this, your real task is to figure out who the actual project manager is, and figure out whether such a tool will actually work for them |
| 18:25.24 | PerfDave | j-v-e: If there's no incentive to actually use a system, then there's no way any system will work. |
| 18:25.28 | *** join/#debian xqix9u2v__ (~xqix9u2v@gateway/tor-sasl/xqix9u2v) |
| 18:25.41 | PerfDave | You need to get buy-in |
| 18:26.08 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: if the actual manager uses a system, then that's usually good enough; and honestly, you can probably get away with google groups and google documents |
| 18:26.11 | *** join/#debian nvz (~nvz@216.183.186.16) |
| 18:26.28 | dondelelcaro | or things like gobby or similar |
| 18:26.31 | j-v-e | the PM would be fine using it, but for a non profit, you need to make sure that the rest of the team can get in without having to invest a lot of time in the tools |
| 18:27.11 | PerfDave | j-v-e: I actually find that a wiki works pretty well for volunteer groups. It's not really waht you're after I guess, but hav a TODO list on a wiki page. |
| 18:27.20 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: or really, just make the underlying data accessible to the rest of the team with instructions on how to access it |
| 18:27.46 | *** join/#debian Protux (~Protux@241.164.66.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 18:27.59 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: but honestly, since presumably you've already got a team and a project manager, they're the ones who will have to decide. [and beyond that, this discussion really doesn't have much to do with #debian.] |
| 18:28.05 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@114-134-8-118.rurallink.co.nz) |
| 18:28.08 | j-v-e | google docs work great for exchanging info, but to bring the group together and create a dynamic, it won't do. I'm thinking a mailing list might still be the best choice. |
| 18:28.37 | PerfDave | j-v-e: CGI:IRC and a private IRC channel? My voluntary org uses that for montlyy team meetings |
| 18:28.38 | j-v-e | well, the system would run on Debian in the end :p |
| 18:28.41 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 18:28.50 | dondelelcaro | j-v-e: yeah, it may, but it's still not really on topic here |
| 18:29.26 | j-v-e | ok. thanks for the pointer, I'll continue my researches ;) |
| 18:29.38 | *** join/#debian gjeoffroy (~gjeoffroy@host-209-183-26-146.static.dsl.primus.ca) |
| 18:30.47 | *** join/#debian maotm (~kvirc@maotm.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 18:31.24 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 18:31.28 | *** join/#debian rdponticelli (~quassel@200-081-044-072.wireless.movistar.net.ar) |
| 18:31.44 | seb82 | using cat/pv to put an iso on my usbkey failed... it's not bootable... |
| 18:31.50 | *** join/#debian Arrick (~Arrick_@unaffiliated/arrick) |
| 18:32.37 | *** join/#debian jillsmitt_h_ (~jillsmitt@92.46.3.240) |
| 18:33.54 | *** join/#debian helly (~helly@AOrleans-156-1-91-95.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:33.58 | seb82 | how bout unetbooting? |
| 18:34.41 | nvz | well for one thing a usb thumbdrive is not a cdrom |
| 18:35.38 | nvz | unetbootin can be hit or miss, especially when you mispell it.. |
| 18:35.45 | seb82 | I know but I've done it before... |
| 18:35.51 | seb82 | nvz without g I know... |
| 18:35.59 | *** join/#debian Yppy-test (~Yppy-test@ip-108.net-89-2-146.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:36.10 | Amarande | hmm |
| 18:36.14 | nvz | in any case I dont see how thats within the scope of this channel |
| 18:36.32 | seb82 | trying to install debian sarge |
| 18:36.36 | Amarande | don't you usually use dd to put an image file into a device, not cat? |
| 18:36.42 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@151.pool85-57-77.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 18:36.52 | seb82 | I was to that cat is used for iso's |
| 18:37.00 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@port-87-234-198-134.static.qsc.de) |
| 18:37.06 | seb82 | *tolk |
| 18:37.14 | Amarande | though I'm kind of foggy as to how it works for ISOs, especially since ISOs really don't have a specific media format attached to them |
| 18:37.15 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@187.40.92.124) |
| 18:37.18 | nvz | seb82: so let me get this straight you have some kind of machine old enough to need an old release thats no longer supported, yet has USB? |
| 18:37.29 | nvz | ...and you're wondering why it will not boot? heh |
| 18:37.31 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure you can burn the Debian business card netinst to a blu-ray writable, if you really want to go to the most extreme of waste :) |
| 18:38.14 | seb82 | nvz... i'm helping a bud in Turkey, who's school is running a debian-based server... installed at base with sarge...and put into experimental with still a sarge kernel... |
| 18:39.12 | dondelelcaro | seb82: does it boot at all? |
| 18:39.15 | seb82 | it's needs to be updated... but 20 departments of that school depend on the server... so I suggested I'd rebuild the system as far as possible and see where the upgrade issues are and whether he'd lose things or not |
| 18:39.15 | nvz | well that sounds real nice of you, but what experimental means in the context of this channel makes me believe you have no idea what you're talking about |
| 18:39.24 | seb82 | via debootstrap I had grub issues |
| 18:39.37 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. Maybe today anyone bother to update the topic in order to reflect the real situation? |
| 18:39.45 | dondelelcaro | hid3: ? |
| 18:39.50 | seb82 | the server runs in etch with a sarge kernel... that way of experimental |
| 18:39.56 | hid3 | dondelelcaro: lenny is 5.0.9 now, not 5.0.8 |
| 18:40.18 | hid3 | yesterday everyone here was reluctant to do that ;-) |
| 18:40.18 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 18:40.19 | seb82 | the system in Turkey works |
| 18:40.30 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> squeeze (6.0.2) released; /msg dpkg squeeze ; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | lenny (5.0.9) /msg dpkg 5.0.9 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ | channel logs: http://deb.li/yQXC |
| 18:40.35 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 18:40.38 | hid3 | great! |
| 18:40.42 | seb82 | lol |
| 18:40.44 | seb82 | brb |
| 18:40.46 | seb82 | or not |
| 18:41.02 | dondelelcaro | seb82: why is it running a sarge kernel? |
| 18:41.20 | seb82 | long story... will tell you later kk? |
| 18:41.35 | hid3 | I think step by step (a step sometimes might be very small) and we'll make Debian perfect! |
| 18:42.19 | *** part/#debian vilpan (~vilius@88.119.197.33) |
| 18:42.23 | abrotman | wonders who hid3 asked ... |
| 18:42.33 | *** join/#debian tyhgu (~tyhgu@89-68-15-209.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 18:42.38 | dvs | steps away from hid3 |
| 18:42.43 | nvz | probaby asked no one in particuar like this time |
| 18:42.46 | hid3 | abrotman: good evening. Looks like you were asleep yesterday at the same time :P |
| 18:43.11 | hid3 | oh, and it's not too late yet to do the same in OFTC, FWIW |
| 18:44.10 | abrotman | hid3: uhm .. no, i just wasn't active .. it was my afternoon. |
| 18:44.32 | hid3 | yeah, I understand, that was just a joke, don't take it seriously ;-) |
| 18:44.41 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~sushi@cpe-66-67-54-249.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 18:44.41 | *** join/#debian SushiDude (~sushi@unaffiliated/sushidude) |
| 18:44.59 | *** join/#debian kuznetzvo (~kuznetzvo@rrcs-71-40-155-170.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:45.26 | abrotman | hid3: i won't, it was also my b-day :) |
| 18:46.06 | *** join/#debian saturne (~Momo@zat.oensic.com) |
| 18:46.08 | *** join/#debian SleepyFloyd (~sleepy@p5DC6AD2E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:46.56 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@91.191.20.15) |
| 18:46.56 | *** join/#debian Black_Prince (~Prince@unaffiliated/black-prince/x-4865215) |
| 18:47.13 | dvs | !beer abrotman |
| 18:47.14 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Green Flash IPA for abrotman |
| 18:47.14 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@port-87-234-198-134.static.qsc.de) |
| 18:47.24 | *** join/#debian Mkaysi (OtusBot@TouchLay/Member/Mkaysi) |
| 18:47.48 | hid3 | oh, congrats then! I find Libra's very friendly. I'm also a Libra and mine's on upcomming Friday. |
| 18:49.03 | *** join/#debian woshty (~woshty@no3.woshty.de) |
| 18:50.26 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 18:50.36 | PerfDave | o/~ Happy brotday to man o/~ |
| 18:50.51 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 18:52.26 | *** join/#debian format_c (~rooms@2001:4dd0:fc0c:0:6c1c:4107:d21d:f3d6) |
| 18:54.27 | *** join/#debian fschwidom (~fschwidom@109.250.247.4) |
| 18:56.18 | alazare619 | anyone here use live-build im just trying to figure out where to place the new splash screen for grub |
| 18:57.27 | *** part/#debian ws2k3 (ws2k3@541B19B4.cm-5-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:57.27 | *** join/#debian dev0 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-38-32.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 18:57.30 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (ws2k3@541B19B4.cm-5-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:57.56 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 18:59.12 | *** join/#debian kkulhavy (~kkulhavy@imap.revamp-it.ch) |
| 18:59.29 | ws2k3 | hello guys |
| 19:00.07 | format_c | Hi |
| 19:00.19 | ws2k3 | last couple of days i talked here alot about my issue with my debian server |
| 19:00.47 | ws2k3 | now i have found the ip adres that make my server generate to much traffic |
| 19:00.51 | format_c | Btw: nice nickname |
| 19:01.00 | ws2k3 | thx:D |
| 19:01.17 | *** join/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:01.33 | format_c | Even in combination with mine |
| 19:01.58 | ws2k3 | the ip adres is:63.141.132.119/24 my question was does somebody know what this ip adress is? is it on any blacklist? who owns the ip? etc |
| 19:02.01 | ws2k3 | yeah:D |
| 19:02.29 | format_c | Do you know whois? |
| 19:02.32 | nvz | ws2k3: are you on drugs? go use a whois, this is #debian |
| 19:02.34 | jelly-home | ws2k3: whois command is your friend |
| 19:03.42 | format_c | Btw:I dont know how you come to the netmask information. It doesn't match in any seinse |
| 19:03.42 | ws2k3 | whois is for domain not for ip or am i wrong? |
| 19:03.44 | jelly-home | ws2k3: and there are plenty of web page blacklist result aggregators, eg. http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx |
| 19:03.52 | jelly-home | ws2k3: TIAS |
| 19:03.53 | format_c | Yes you are wrong |
| 19:04.04 | *** join/#debian lord_daemon (~hax0red@unaffiliated/lord-daemon/x-3538029) |
| 19:04.22 | nkuttler | i wouldn't bother to check the ip owner.. just firewall it |
| 19:04.30 | frikinz | http://www.robtex.com |
| 19:04.45 | *** join/#debian Protux (~Protux@241.164.66.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 19:05.08 | ws2k3 | is there anyone around that has iptables knowledge? |
| 19:05.24 | nvz | yeah, this guy called apt-get install firestarter.. heh |
| 19:05.35 | format_c | I guess 50 % at least |
| 19:06.31 | ws2k3 | cause i was thinking.. maby i can build an iptables script that walks true the traffic of my server. and if such an attack happens more it get a ip block for a week or so. |
| 19:06.34 | ws2k3 | something like that |
| 19:06.54 | nvz | then you're looking for something more like fail2ban |
| 19:06.58 | nathwill | ^ditto |
| 19:07.27 | ws2k3 | nvz i use the firewall csf? |
| 19:07.32 | ws2k3 | dont know if u ever heart from it |
| 19:07.39 | ws2k3 | http://configserver.com/cp/csf.html |
| 19:07.40 | jelly-home | !csf |
| 19:08.11 | ws2k3 | ? |
| 19:08.44 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@port-87-234-196-250.static.qsc.de) |
| 19:09.10 | jelly-home | the bot doesn't know about it |
| 19:09.32 | ws2k3 | aah ok |
| 19:09.35 | *** join/#debian daedhel (~daedhel@69.165.214.114) |
| 19:09.45 | ws2k3 | well i gived a link |
| 19:09.50 | ws2k3 | of the firewall homepage |
| 19:10.01 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:10.27 | ws2k3 | nvz well i think fail2ban isnt the sollucion for me |
| 19:10.41 | ws2k3 | cause the way they abuse my server is very specific |
| 19:10.46 | nvz | no but perhaps some spelling lessons |
| 19:10.56 | nvz | and very specific means very easy to stop |
| 19:11.04 | ws2k3 | sorry my english is not that good |
| 19:11.10 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:11.23 | ws2k3 | why is very specific very easy to stop? |
| 19:11.37 | nvz | because if something can be predicted it can be prefented |
| 19:11.45 | nvz | prevented even.. now you got me doing it |
| 19:11.51 | *** join/#debian berserkr (~david@212.122.111.205.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:12.06 | ws2k3 | nvz thats true |
| 19:12.09 | jelly-home | nfz |
| 19:12.14 | ws2k3 | i only need to know how. |
| 19:12.24 | ws2k3 | i host a service that is closed source |
| 19:12.59 | ws2k3 | some software can sent packets to my server to ask the status. my server replays to that with an response with in that package the information about the status. |
| 19:13.09 | format_c | I just had a look at the page. It looks like a nothing more you can do with iptables and rkhunter |
| 19:13.12 | ws2k3 | only they do they that many times per second |
| 19:13.28 | ws2k3 | format.. wel i think.. with iptables i can detect the traffic. |
| 19:13.37 | nvz | uh last I checked things like failban were specifically designed for that |
| 19:13.38 | jelly-home | ws2k3: from the same source IP? |
| 19:13.51 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:13.58 | jelly-home | ws2k3: does your service log those requests and the source? |
| 19:14.09 | ws2k3 | and if iptrables can detect it. then it can block it. maby iptables can detect is there is more then 500 status requests per seconds from a ip adres |
| 19:14.12 | ws2k3 | then block it |
| 19:14.18 | ws2k3 | no |
| 19:14.37 | nvz | well you can argue it all you want but my answer is fail2ban and I'm sticking to it |
| 19:14.43 | ws2k3 | like i sad it close source software |
| 19:14.50 | ws2k3 | so i cannot build a log into it or so |
| 19:15.02 | ws2k3 | the only way i saw this happening was with iftop |
| 19:15.03 | jelly-home | closed source doesn't necessarily mean "complete crap that doesn't log access" |
| 19:15.04 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:15.13 | nvz | if it doesnt log, and you cant hack it, then you cant do anything at all about stoping people |
| 19:15.15 | jelly-home | tho in this case... |
| 19:15.36 | nvz | first step is to stop hosting a service that doesnt log |
| 19:15.38 | ws2k3 | jelly-home did u read me saying that |
| 19:15.51 | jelly-home | ws2k3: that's what you implied |
| 19:16.07 | ws2k3 | no i did not. thats what u assumed.. |
| 19:16.25 | *** join/#debian Guest66537 (~jason@li14-82.members.linode.com) |
| 19:16.26 | ws2k3 | but sorry if i did. |
| 19:16.27 | jelly-home | because that's the only way "<ws2k3> like i sad it close source software" could be an answer to "<jelly-home> ws2k3: does your service log those requests and the source?" |
| 19:16.51 | ws2k3 | yeah it was an answer to that |
| 19:17.03 | *** join/#debian newyork (~newyork@p4FFDD214.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:17.10 | ws2k3 | but that not important |
| 19:17.20 | format_c | ws2k3: have a look at this page http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/ |
| 19:17.24 | Guest66537 | howdy! I see the version of pidgin in squeeze repos is out of date with ICQ's insane network, is there a clean/sane way to grab a more recent version of pidgin without goofing up the rest of the system? |
| 19:17.30 | jelly-home | but anyhow, it's very easy to limit and block requests for the same destination service in a period of time, with iptables |
| 19:17.51 | *** join/#debian Xizor (~Xizor@aqu33-7-78-232-32-5.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:17.51 | ws2k3 | my question was why i cant detect the amount of requests and do something with that information |
| 19:18.17 | *** join/#debian CrazyGir (~jason@unaffiliated/crazygir) |
| 19:18.42 | jelly-home | ws2k3: you can. |
| 19:18.48 | ws2k3 | format_c ok i shall read about it. |
| 19:18.49 | format_c | You can. The example the page is providing can easily be adaptedto achieve that. Just replace the DROP action with the LOG action. |
| 19:18.59 | ws2k3 | yeah i saw. |
| 19:19.13 | ws2k3 | thx u guys for all the information. and good advice. |
| 19:19.13 | jelly-home | ws2k3: each iptables rule has a counter on how many times it's been triggered |
| 19:19.33 | ws2k3 | i know but thx anyway! |
| 19:19.35 | format_c | jelly-home: where to find that coter? |
| 19:19.40 | format_c | Counter |
| 19:19.53 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@178-164-140-226.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 19:20.06 | jelly-home | format_c: add -v to iptables -L |
| 19:20.17 | format_c | Great thank |
| 19:20.26 | format_c | Gn8 guys. |
| 19:20.56 | jelly-home | ws2k3: if you know it, then you should already be able to "detect the amount of requests" |
| 19:21.15 | *** join/#debian npx (~alex@75.81.222.106) |
| 19:21.30 | nvz | by doing what, polling at a higher interval than the DDOS? |
| 19:21.33 | nvz | heh |
| 19:22.46 | nvz | the real solution to this problem is to stop hosting this service.. its critically flawed and I sense the reason its being hammered is because the client app works so poorly and the people using it are not doing it intentially |
| 19:23.02 | nvz | it sounds so relatively simple it could be recreated with far less work |
| 19:23.23 | *** join/#debian jordanorelli (~Adium@63.117.181.249) |
| 19:23.34 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 19:23.51 | jelly-home | They're not going to stop hosting a useful service because a person on irc suggested so. |
| 19:24.35 | jelly-home | ws2k3: you can also add some logging in front of rate-limiting rules. http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/ssh-rate-limiting.html |
| 19:24.50 | *** join/#debian mr_jrt (~j@host-78-146-219-105.as13285.net) |
| 19:25.30 | jordanorelli | if I want to run python2.7 on squeeze should I use apt pinning or install it from source? it seems a lot of people are pinning it but… i'm a little skeptical of that. |
| 19:26.28 | CrazyGir | jordanorelli: that's a question of mine too : |
| 19:27.03 | *** join/#debian JohnTortugo (~john@143.106.196.246) |
| 19:27.05 | *** join/#debian mezod (~nnscript@99.Red-80-34-140.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:27.05 | *** join/#debian mezod (~nnscript@unaffiliated/mezod) |
| 19:27.17 | jordanorelli | yeah, about a year ago when i first started i melted a system this way, but i was too inexperienced to know why. not sure if i should give it another go or just avoid that route altogether. |
| 19:27.26 | *** join/#debian MikeH (~mike@86.63.17.141) |
| 19:27.41 | *** join/#debian locojay (~locojay@pool-108-6-12-127.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:29.27 | dondelelcaro | jordanorelli: unless you have a specific reason to use python2.7, I'd avoid it |
| 19:29.51 | *** join/#debian donald (~donald@p4FEAAA8B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:30.12 | *** join/#debian h2oman (~h2oman@cpe-24-30-181-81.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:31.45 | jordanorelli | yeah, i think i just might. i'm trying to roll out a linode stack script for automatically rolling out nginx+ gunicorn servers, but this particular issue seems to just be wasting my time. |
| 19:32.38 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@xdsl-188-154-223-124.adslplus.ch) |
| 19:32.56 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 19:33.45 | CrazyGir | I see the version of pidgin in squeeze repos is out of date with ICQ's insane network, is there a clean/sane way to grab a more recent version of pidgin without goofing up the rest of the system? |
| 19:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1134] by debhelper |
| 19:34.59 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.179.4.253) |
| 19:35.11 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.150.10) |
| 19:35.12 | nkuttler | !tell CrazyGir about ssbp |
| 19:35.21 | guk | apt-get build-dep pidgin |
| 19:35.27 | guk | then just compile pidgin manually |
| 19:35.41 | guk | if you ./configure --prefix=/home/user/location you can just install it in your home dir to keep things tidy and clean |
| 19:35.49 | guk | thats all I used to do to keep things like that super upto date |
| 19:36.37 | tyhgu | looking for people who would like to make some programmers/graphics group. |
| 19:36.51 | *** join/#debian SpiderFred (~SpiderFre@135.119.broadband14.iol.cz) |
| 19:37.54 | npx | if you want to take the next step w/ custom compiled packages, you can use checkinstall to replace the 'make install' portion of the process |
| 19:38.01 | SpiderFred | hi I installed debian and I want to be able to login there with ssh without having to login there first normally |
| 19:38.14 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@207.239.107.3) |
| 19:38.20 | npx | it will generate a custom .deb package, and you can install everything to /usr and use alternatives etc |
| 19:40.51 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~Phileas@host86-134-121-232.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:40.55 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs109108016252.pp.htv.fi) |
| 19:40.55 | *** join/#debian Zesturian (~zest@unaffiliated/zesturian) |
| 19:43.08 | Zesturian | Hey all, not quite why but ssh isn't playing nicely with selinux on squeeze: "type=AVC msg=audit(1317666465.988:99): avc: denied { name_bind } for pid=3426 comm="sshd" src=25562 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:port_t:s0 tclass=tcp_socket" any ideas please? I attempted tail -f /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M test and nothing was created |
| 19:44.34 | *** join/#debian revil (~jan1s@78-226-80.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 19:46.09 | karlpinc | SpiderFred: Have you installed openssh-server? |
| 19:46.55 | *** join/#debian Gottaname (~Gottaname@bb116-15-99-209.singnet.com.sg) |
| 19:47.02 | *** join/#debian simonAJ (~instantgr@users224.kollegienet.dk) |
| 19:47.54 | SpiderFred | karlpinc: yes I just cant login with ssh to that machine unless I login there manually first |
| 19:48.49 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~netexpert@2001:470:5:44d:226:c7ff:fe73:a9e6) |
| 19:48.51 | CrazyGir | nkuttler: thank you |
| 19:49.52 | *** join/#debian mortne (~chatzilla@0139100337.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 19:50.59 | *** join/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@128.237.118.43) |
| 19:51.34 | *** part/#debian frikinz (~tee_bee@quinput.org) |
| 19:51.49 | *** join/#debian MDesade (~chatzilla@ip70-162-84-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:52.34 | *** join/#debian Bauldrick (~Phileas@host86-134-121-232.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:53.31 | *** join/#debian ruied_ (~ruied@19.198.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 19:55.36 | *** join/#debian daedhel (~daedhel@69.165.214.114) |
| 19:56.21 | *** join/#debian ikonia (~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia) |
| 19:56.29 | *** join/#debian ruied_ (~ruied@19.198.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 19:57.36 | *** join/#debian Woet (~Woet@unaffiliated/woet) |
| 19:58.02 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~michael@99.148.198.122) |
| 19:59.40 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~michael@99.148.198.122) |
| 19:59.41 | *** part/#debian phaidros (~phaidros@ghostshell.subsignal.org) |
| 19:59.45 | *** join/#debian pAt__ (~pAt_@p5483EDFE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:02.10 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 20:05.08 | *** join/#debian ptotterm (ptman@pusta.ptman.name) |
| 20:05.19 | ptotterm | what are the permissions of /dev/console supposed to be? |
| 20:05.50 | ptotterm | xconsole says "couldn't open console" and sure enough, it's crw------- 1 root root 5, 1 Oct 3 10:03 /dev/console |
| 20:06.36 | streuner | amset:/# ls -l /dev/console |
| 20:06.37 | streuner | crw------- 1 root root 5, 1 Sep 18 13:23 /dev/console |
| 20:06.50 | *** join/#debian dschoepe_ (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 20:07.13 | totte | I installed apticron, added my e-mail adress in the configuration file and ran /etc/cron.daily/apticron but I'm not getting any mails despite there being upgrades available. I can't find an apticron log either... The mail.x logs were all empty. Hint please? |
| 20:08.07 | totte | Oh I was following this tutorial: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/491 |
| 20:08.55 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@h-2-204.a322.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 20:10.30 | *** join/#debian ArchAttack (~ArchAttac@adsl-65-0-184-209.jan.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:11.48 | ArchAttack | question guys i installed debian to test it out to see if i wanna switch from arch to it since i like the idea of learning one distro and i can use it on ANY platform :P anywho how do i install e17 desktop i did apt-get install e17 and it installed some stuff but when i try to boot i get this error that desktop varible wasn't set or something, i installed xfce and that boots fine so i know its not xorg thats the problem |
| 20:11.52 | *** join/#debian DasEi (~m@gtng-4db051fc.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:13.05 | PerfDave | ArchAttack: Please tell me you've got a fresh Debian install and haven't tried to "upgrade" an Arch install to Debian? |
| 20:13.44 | valdyn | ArchAttack: the precise error message would be useful |
| 20:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1128] by debhelper |
| 20:14.53 | *** join/#debian frozencemetery (~frozencem@CMU-786527.WV.CC.CMU.EDU) |
| 20:15.12 | *** join/#debian Fjordside (503f07da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.63.7.218) |
| 20:16.01 | ArchAttack | umm duh lol its a fresh debian install error is enlightnment cannot initialize its x connection have you set your display variable |
| 20:16.28 | valdyn | ArchAttack: the error message happens when you run what where? |
| 20:16.41 | valdyn | ArchAttack: you know that X needs to be running before e17 can run? |
| 20:16.43 | ArchAttack | when i run enlightenment_start from the console |
| 20:16.53 | *** join/#debian ScottG489 (~scott@pool-96-228-111-133.albyny.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:17.09 | valdyn | ArchAttack: that explains that.. |
| 20:17.26 | *** join/#debian mft (6d4dae03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.77.174.3) |
| 20:17.46 | valdyn | ArchAttack: install something like gdm where you can pick session or edit your ~/.xsession file and run startx |
| 20:18.18 | ArchAttack | does debian have elsa i done apt-get install elsa (e17's login manager) but it didn't find it |
| 20:18.39 | *** part/#debian ptotterm (ptman@pusta.ptman.name) |
| 20:18.47 | valdyn | ArchAttack: i dont see it, so probably not |
| 20:19.00 | ArchAttack | wow really i thought debian had everything :-( |
| 20:19.07 | *** join/#debian cantido (~daniel@70-36-138-82.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 20:19.22 | Amarande | apparently not. strangely, an apt-cache search elsa on squeeze gives "texlive-latex-extra - TeX Live: LaTeX supplementary packages" which made me blink |
| 20:19.26 | Fjordside | Hi my intel5100 broke with too ols firmware and unable to support firmware api after upgrade, plus Could not read microcode -22, before upgrade it worked fine, how to fix? |
| 20:19.28 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 20:19.32 | valdyn | ArchAttack: google finds entrance, not elsa |
| 20:19.33 | Zesturian | Well I fixed it, my server being on an obscure port, had to semanage it to add it to the ports for ssh, now we're cooking on gas ;D |
| 20:19.46 | Amarande | apt-cache search is weird sometimes, fairly often I see packages in the search list that I wonder how they manage to be even related to the search term at all :) |
| 20:19.53 | ArchAttack | entrance is OLD and depreciated |
| 20:19.53 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:20.03 | *** join/#debian seb82 (~seb82@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:20.33 | seb82 | okay... I've finally managed to do a proper install of debian sarge... but it won't boot due to a kernel panic |
| 20:20.44 | valdyn | ArchAttack: none of both seems to be in debian anyway |
| 20:21.21 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.179.4.253) |
| 20:21.42 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@175.139.57.91) |
| 20:21.42 | *** join/#debian DasEi1 (~m@gtng-4d08d5e5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:22.02 | cantido | seb82: why are you installing sarge? anyhow.. try disabling acpi etc |
| 20:22.10 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 20:22.18 | cantido | seb82: and give us some details on the panic.. |
| 20:22.23 | ArchAttack | aww ok well thanks i'll find another distro i suppose. Thanks for you help anyways |
| 20:23.22 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~ome@pool-72-83-158-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:23.28 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~H3X@nixbits.org) |
| 20:23.28 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~H3X@unaffiliated/hexiled) |
| 20:24.02 | seb82 | cantido... I'm helping out a guy in Turkey... his school stills runs a debian sarge server... back in the days installed as stable sarge... then upgraded to experimental, with still a sarge kernel... and left to rot... currently 20 departments rely on this server and it needs to be upgraded soon... due to this fact I've been trying to recreate his system, as far as possible, to test the upgrade for him... it this system breaks... no issue or whats |
| 20:24.02 | seb82 | oever... |
| 20:24.22 | seb82 | *if |
| 20:24.27 | *** join/#debian eSa| (~esa@host126-158-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:24.40 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-85-156.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 20:24.55 | Fjordside | Do I just have to live with a broke wifi till new update? |
| 20:25.14 | valdyn | Fjordside: do you think that question will get you help? |
| 20:25.32 | Fjordside | I get driver unable to support your firmware api. driver supports v5 firmware is v0 |
| 20:26.12 | *** join/#debian wessly (~wessly@unaffiliated/wessly) |
| 20:27.02 | Fjordside | and Could not read microcode: -22 after upgrade from 6.0 to latest on an ibm x200 |
| 20:27.25 | seb82 | gimme a sec and i'll give ya the error code... btw how I use my wireless ralink card on sarge? |
| 20:27.44 | valdyn | seb82: probably not at all |
| 20:27.59 | Fjordside | Intel 5100 |
| 20:28.01 | seb82 | darn, okay, lemme see if I can wired up my system then lol |
| 20:28.09 | seb82 | brb |
| 20:28.13 | valdyn | seb82: what kernel is in sarge? 2.6.x available yet? |
| 20:28.18 | seb82 | yes |
| 20:28.29 | valdyn | seb82: udev installed? |
| 20:29.01 | valdyn | seb82: udev is kernel version sensitive aswell as hal or hotplug, you can get away with neither in sarge |
| 20:29.47 | seb82 | not shout at me but 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 20:29.55 | valdyn | seb82: yea |
| 20:30.06 | *** join/#debian SpiderFred (~SpiderFre@135.119.broadband14.iol.cz) |
| 20:30.18 | valdyn | seb82: Build yourself a recent kernel |
| 20:30.28 | seb82 | valdyn: that has no use... |
| 20:30.39 | gnarface | ldapsearch is cool and all but anyone know of any console tools that are a bit more ncurses-ey? |
| 20:30.45 | valdyn | seb82: why? deviates from the production machine? |
| 20:30.46 | seb82 | the system in Turkey has that same kernel... |
| 20:30.53 | *** join/#debian gjeoffroy (~gjeoffroy@host-209-183-26-146.static.dsl.primus.ca) |
| 20:31.16 | *** join/#debian Strife1989 (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) |
| 20:31.16 | valdyn | seb82: ralink had their own driver package, but its probably to new for sarge too, tias |
| 20:31.17 | seb82 | sarge was installed with a sarge netinstall cd btw |
| 20:31.28 | seb82 | np I'll dig up something... |
| 20:31.45 | *** join/#debian alexim (~alexim@67.137.73.90) |
| 20:31.47 | *** join/#debian daedhel (~daedhel@69.165.214.114) |
| 20:32.03 | *** join/#debian harovali (~harovali@r190-134-198-113.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 20:32.25 | *** join/#debian XThief (~XThief@43.Red-95-121-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:32.26 | valdyn | seb82: why doesnt your friend clone the system and try the upgrade |
| 20:32.36 | valdyn | seb82: its a school, must be some possible downtime |
| 20:33.34 | *** join/#debian SleepyFloyd (~sleepy@p5DC6AD2E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:34.18 | *** join/#debian mah454 (~mah454@78.39.221.175) |
| 20:34.22 | mah454 | Hello ... |
| 20:34.29 | mah454 | How can fix this ? http://pastebin.com/Pdk8jann |
| 20:34.35 | *** join/#debian ixti (~ixti@63.Red-81-33-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:35.12 | *** join/#debian skrewler (~skrewler@209.213.206.58) |
| 20:35.19 | harovali | hi, I've learnead that in debian squeeze one no more can use setfont, and instead consolechars is due. However, I wanna set /usr/share/consolefonts/Lat15-TerminusBold32x16.psf as the console font, and there I get always an error showstopper: 'read_simple_font(): Bad font file format'. How can I get rid of it and get the font working ? |
| 20:35.34 | *** join/#debian sanduz2 (~sanduz2@75-149-186-118-Miami.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:35.36 | valdyn | mah454: aptitude install libctemplate-dev |
| 20:36.07 | seb82 | error msg: trying to kill init! |
| 20:36.23 | sanduz2 | is rpc.statd something that should normally be running in a debian system? its running on my server but i dont know why. it was started by statd. |
| 20:36.24 | *** part/#debian gjeoffroy (~gjeoffroy@host-209-183-26-146.static.dsl.primus.ca) |
| 20:36.25 | seb82 | valdyn: he doesn't have that much experience |
| 20:36.32 | *** join/#debian zro (~zro@wikimedia/zro) |
| 20:37.15 | valdyn | sanduz2: do you need nfs? |
| 20:37.15 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@114-198-64-242.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 20:37.15 | *** join/#debian lyte (~lyte@unaffiliated/neerolyte) |
| 20:37.42 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:38.59 | valdyn | seb82: in your place i would do this in a vm |
| 20:39.17 | valdyn | seb82: saves you from needing all that driver support |
| 20:39.57 | *** join/#debian tyche (~tyche@ip98-177-228-100.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:40.01 | *** join/#debian tyche (~tyche@unaffiliated/tyche) |
| 20:40.01 | *** join/#debian xiaoy (~unknown@ppp-117-121.26-151.libero.it) |
| 20:40.01 | *** join/#debian xiaoy (~unknown@unaffiliated/xiaoy) |
| 20:40.06 | seb82 | valdyn: my system runs great as it is... it's a single core at 2,8 Ghz... 640 MB RAM... as soon as VM comes in... it's a mess |
| 20:40.08 | sanduz2 | valdyn, no |
| 20:40.30 | sanduz2 | valdyn, as long as i can scp and ssh i dont need anything else |
| 20:40.37 | *** join/#debian Bzek (~SK@access-46-42-16-55.kmtn.ru) |
| 20:40.43 | valdyn | sanduz2: "apt-get remove nfs-common" take care that nothing that you want is removed |
| 20:40.49 | *** join/#debian mr_jrt (~j@jamie-thompson.co.uk) |
| 20:41.01 | seb82 | valdyn: unless you now a way to do this without overloading my own system... |
| 20:41.17 | sanduz2 | valdyn, thank you. by the way, that daemon wouldnt happen to be required by a web server would it? or is it something that comes standard on debian? ( i never installed it intentionally) |
| 20:41.27 | valdyn | sanduz2: no, its for nfs |
| 20:41.34 | sanduz2 | valdyn, great thanks |
| 20:42.35 | valdyn | seb82: no.. |
| 20:43.21 | seb82 | i could ofcourse try... since ofcourse sarge without gui would be happy with 128 of ram, right? |
| 20:43.44 | valdyn | seb82: yes |
| 20:44.08 | seb82 | right, valdyn, sorry for my blabbering... I'll give vm a go... which vm would you advice me to use? |
| 20:44.12 | valdyn | seb82: but its going to be slow slow |
| 20:44.55 | *** join/#debian niman (~niman@2.179.4.253) |
| 20:44.57 | valdyn | seb82: i dont know anything but kvm, which is of no use to you since your cpu probably has no hw virtualisation support |
| 20:45.03 | sanduz2 | valdyn, by the way, just out of curiosity, does nfs common come standard on debian 6 stable or something? i dont remember installing it |
| 20:45.06 | valdyn | seb82: and qemu, which is going to be slow |
| 20:45.18 | valdyn | sanduz2: probably, i dont know |
| 20:45.21 | sanduz2 | oh ok |
| 20:45.22 | *** join/#debian jordanorelli (~Adium@63.117.181.249) |
| 20:46.19 | seb82 | kvm is a no go... and vbo? |
| 20:46.32 | seb82 | *vbox |
| 20:46.58 | fredden | how often is the security-tracker updated? I can't see latest security-announce yet (gives 404) http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-2314-1, and some of the listed CVEs don't have pages on the tracker yet either |
| 20:46.59 | *** join/#debian dschoepe_ (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 20:47.38 | valdyn | fredden: first time i see it |
| 20:48.05 | fredden | valdyn, see http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-2313-1 for comparison |
| 20:48.25 | fredden | actually, that didn't work either. Hmm.. |
| 20:48.26 | cantido | seb82: vbox will work without hardware vm for most OSes |
| 20:48.35 | seb82 | kk thx |
| 20:49.24 | fredden | valdyn, http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-2312-1 works |
| 20:50.30 | valdyn | fredden: #debian-security @ oftc |
| 20:50.46 | ArchAttack | ok so i decided to just get xfce4 since that seems to be one of hte options debian will let me have thats lighterweight. question i'm using debian testing since i want newer packages than that of stable is wheezy the testing repo? |
| 20:51.02 | valdyn | ArchAttack: yes |
| 20:51.04 | *** join/#debian gentz (ilab@ancient.webfoundation.net) |
| 20:51.05 | *** join/#debian CrazyGir (~jason@li14-82.members.linode.com) |
| 20:51.08 | *** join/#debian elgar (~jacksond@38.106.144.30) |
| 20:51.24 | *** join/#debian phogg (~phogg@173-10-190-217-BusName-washingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:51.33 | *** join/#debian Failrar (~Failrar@5ED66E6D.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:51.36 | valdyn | ArchAttack: i dont understand why the fact that elsa is not available would make you switch off e17 too though |
| 20:51.37 | *** join/#debian itchi (~David@unaffiliated/itchi) |
| 20:51.41 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 20:51.44 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@96.237.180.99) |
| 20:52.10 | *** join/#debian rush2end_ (~rush2end@111-240-169-125.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 20:52.27 | *** part/#debian gimpy1328 (~jaw171@jaw171.noc.pitt.edu) |
| 20:52.39 | *** join/#debian tno (~tno@bl10-139-138.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 20:52.49 | *** join/#debian dev0 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-85-156.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 20:52.52 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~tapioca@host104-230-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:53.03 | *** join/#debian Malmis (~malmis@c-2e8172d5.014-208-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:53.20 | ArchAttack | no but i tried apt-get install gdm and it said its unavilable alsa so i'm like wtf LOL |
| 20:53.39 | *** join/#debian lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) |
| 20:53.46 | valdyn | ArchAttack: it is available in debian. You have bigger issues then |
| 20:54.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1113] by debhelper |
| 20:54.08 | valdyn | judd: versions gdm |
| 20:54.11 | judd | Package: gdm on i386 -- lenny: 2.20.7-4lenny1; squeeze: 2.20.11-4 |
| 20:54.22 | valdyn | ArchAttack: gdm3 |
| 20:54.34 | valdyn | judd: versions gdm3 |
| 20:54.34 | judd | Package: gdm3 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.30.5-6squeeze2; squeeze: 2.30.5-6squeeze3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.30.5-6squeeze4; sid: 2.30.5-11; wheezy: 2.30.5-11; experimental: 3.0.4-2 |
| 20:54.50 | *** join/#debian h2oman (~h2oman@cpe-24-30-181-81.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 20:55.16 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:55.28 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@pdpc/supporter/active/pzn) |
| 20:55.41 | seb82 | ArchAttack: have you considered reinstalling your system? |
| 20:55.49 | valdyn | seb82: nah |
| 20:55.54 | *** join/#debian aksn (~Username@231.pool85-60-158.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 20:56.09 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p57941E4E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:56.34 | *** join/#debian waka (~wakariera@unaffiliated/waka) |
| 20:57.50 | *** join/#debian Joelito (~joel@200.77.203.29.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) |
| 20:58.39 | *** join/#debian valdyn__ (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 20:59.38 | *** part/#debian MDesade (~chatzilla@ip70-162-84-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:59.56 | ArchAttack | sorry i was reading these debian things :P yeah its reinstalling now :D i think i must of selected something wrong |
| 21:00.09 | *** join/#debian EyesIsServer (~eyes@unaffiliated/eyesismine) |
| 21:01.09 | *** join/#debian Miss_Anthropie (~blob@p54B1DE22.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:01.10 | *** join/#debian john192 (~unknown@182-239-158-61.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 21:01.23 | john192 | im having this problem with debian adding SSH to the default runlevel |
| 21:01.36 | ArchAttack | is there a difference between aptitude and apt-get i dont know which one is officially supported i hear mix responces |
| 21:01.41 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@pool-72-66-231-160.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:01.43 | john192 | usually i just do update-rc.d -f ssh defaults |
| 21:02.18 | john192 | but instead im getting some error about warning: ssh stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none) |
| 21:02.23 | *** join/#debian brammator (~brammator@balance.altair-tv.ru) |
| 21:02.28 | *** join/#debian chaisen (~chaisen@p4FD48A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:02.30 | Amarande | Arch: aptitude is an ncurses-type GUI, apt-get is a command line tool, they're different tools, both supported |
| 21:02.42 | Amarande | dselect was the ancient ncurses tool that I'm not sure is supported nowadays |
| 21:02.44 | cantido | ArchAttack: both are in the base system, so I guess both are supported.. aptitude used to be a bit more clever than apt-get, but I'm not sure that is the case anymore |
| 21:02.47 | john192 | all i did was install openssh-server |
| 21:03.08 | cantido | ArchAttack: apt-get is a lot faster than aptitude |
| 21:03.21 | ArchAttack | ah ok thanks guys for the input |
| 21:03.24 | Amarande | there's also Synaptic, under X |
| 21:03.28 | cantido | Amarande: aptitude has almost exactly the same commmandline interface as apt-get.. |
| 21:03.51 | ArchAttack | blah i come from Arch I am not in need of hand holding gui tools :P |
| 21:04.18 | cantido | ArchAttack: neither does debian.. |
| 21:04.26 | cantido | ArchAttack: you have the choice |
| 21:04.27 | ArchAttack | since i'm using testing do i need to do apt-get update then apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 21:04.41 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@127.Red-79-152-210.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:04.59 | john192 | does anyone know why im getting getting "warning: ssh stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none)" when i type update-rc.d ssh defaults |
| 21:05.17 | cantido | ArchAttack: are you already on testing? or you're upgrading stable->testing? |
| 21:06.03 | john192 | does anyone know why im getting getting "warning: ssh stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none)" when i type update-rc.d ssh defaults |
| 21:06.05 | *** join/#debian peregrinator_six (~humano@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) |
| 21:06.31 | cantido | john192: no, no one does, you can stop asking now |
| 21:06.39 | *** join/#debian zeroheroW7 (~zerohero@84-217-140-26.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 21:07.08 | *** join/#debian zro (~zro@wikimedia/zro) |
| 21:07.12 | *** join/#debian Mac102 (~Mac@host109-154-127-208.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:07.25 | *** join/#debian speak_ (speak@waret.us) |
| 21:07.34 | *** join/#debian Ota|RhythmGames (Ota-kun@adsl-76-200-150-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:07.34 | *** join/#debian frantk_ (~frantk@defocus/hotdog/pdpc.student.frantk) |
| 21:07.37 | *** join/#debian jtrucks_ (~jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.board.jtrucks) |
| 21:07.43 | *** join/#debian Gcool_ (~Gcool@linux.gcool.be) |
| 21:07.46 | *** join/#debian fulgore_ (~fulgore@glomsecurity.com) |
| 21:07.55 | Mmike | lads, I'd like to build 3.1 kernel on debian suqeeze, dpkg should know something about that? |
| 21:08.10 | *** join/#debian Obama__ (~xae8koo@zebra719.startdedicated.com) |
| 21:08.14 | john192 | oh nice a netsplit |
| 21:08.20 | *** join/#debian chasing_Sol (~chasingSo@82.201.135.150) |
| 21:08.25 | *** join/#debian newyork (~newyork@p4FFDD214.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:08.28 | *** join/#debian ike (ike@szluug.org) |
| 21:08.28 | *** join/#debian el_guillermo (~ripster@76-225-48-6.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:08.31 | cantido | Mmike: look at kernel-package |
| 21:08.33 | *** part/#debian vigilant (~vigilant@unaffiliated/vigilant) |
| 21:08.36 | *** join/#debian fipu (~fipu@fipu.usr.sh) |
| 21:08.37 | *** join/#debian ArchAttack (~ArchAttac@adsl-65-0-184-209.jan.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:08.41 | *** join/#debian omeddragon (~ome@pool-72-83-158-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:08.49 | cantido | Mmike: there might be backports of 3.1 though |
| 21:09.07 | *** join/#debian Arrowmaster (arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 21:09.15 | Mmike | cantido, I'd like to try latest 3.1... am I still using make-kpkg as ages ago? |
| 21:09.20 | *** join/#debian CodeKip_Away (admin@217.146.87.9) |
| 21:09.38 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot) |
| 21:09.55 | *** join/#debian h2mster (~h2mster@dslb-094-217-117-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:09.56 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@89.95.29.161) |
| 21:09.58 | *** join/#debian Malmis (malmis@c-2e8172d5.014-208-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:10.02 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 21:10.03 | *** join/#debian Atlas (atlas@unaffiliated/atlas-) |
| 21:10.17 | cantido | Mmike: I think its still valid |
| 21:10.26 | SpiderFred | how to update terminal I mean when I changed bashrc file how to update terminal to use current one |
| 21:10.26 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 21:10.40 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@bband-dyn220.178-40-198.t-com.sk) |
| 21:10.56 | *** join/#debian blast_hardcheese (~blast_har@cpe-98-151-31-186.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:11.18 | *** join/#debian micols (~0x2AA7F64@rlogin.dk) |
| 21:11.21 | *** join/#debian sigterm (~sigterm@2001:470:d:e3f:21c:c0ff:fe67:69bf) |
| 21:11.22 | *** join/#debian NeoLobster (~NeoLobste@snugglenets.com) |
| 21:11.29 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 21:11.53 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@chello080109200187.3.sc-graz.chello.at) |
| 21:12.16 | Mmike | cantido, thnx, will try :) |
| 21:12.26 | *** join/#debian neoark (na1du@shellium/staff/neoark) |
| 21:12.43 | *** join/#debian frikinz (~frikinz@quinput.org) |
| 21:12.46 | *** part/#debian frikinz (~frikinz@quinput.org) |
| 21:13.21 | *** join/#debian Binome (~root@63.223.110.128) |
| 21:13.39 | NeoLobster | Hey all. I'm having an issue with dpkg/apt-get that I'm hoping someone can shed some light on. I tried to upgrade a package, which tried to upgrade libc, but I didn't upgrade dpkg first. I'm getting an error that the package "contains ununderstood data member data.tar.xz" which seems to point toward a too-old version of dpkg. |
| 21:14.16 | seb82 | NeoLobster, wot version of debian are you running? |
| 21:14.29 | *** join/#debian CrEddy (~overcasua@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 21:14.52 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#debian CowboyNeal (~pater@adsl-99-150-164-224.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#debian depressed (~depressed@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:8e19:e295) |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#debian unforgiven512 (~unforgive@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:9fa9) |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#debian lahwran (~lahwran@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:53ea) |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::6667) |
| 21:15.14 | *** join/#debian BernardV (~bernard@2a02:898:104:1::1) |
| 21:15.14 | NeoLobster | I'm on lenny for this machine. |
| 21:15.19 | ArchAttack | what does this mean failed to execute command "su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic" |
| 21:15.22 | *** join/#debian lahwran (~lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran) |
| 21:16.12 | NeoLobster | I'm stuck with apt-get not allowing me to install anything because of the error on libc6, and I can't upgrade dpkg as a result. I can't uninstall libc6 for obvious reasons. |
| 21:16.47 | *** join/#debian CowboyNeal (~pater@unaffiliated/cowboyneal) |
| 21:17.23 | *** join/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 21:18.52 | cantido | NeoLobster: you could extract a new dpkg manually |
| 21:19.12 | *** join/#debian fisted (~fisted@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 21:19.21 | NeoLobster | by manually, do you mean installing the new dpkg using dpkg, rather than apt-get? |
| 21:19.48 | cantido | NeoLobster: use dpkg-deb to extract the files and put them in the right place.. then upgrade dpkg normally |
| 21:21.52 | NeoLobster | I guess I don't follow. You want me to extract the dpkg deb's files then manually put them where they belong? |
| 21:22.52 | cantido | NeoLobster: if dpkg is broken because its too old, you could as a final resort, extract a newer dpkg and manually install its files |
| 21:23.04 | cantido | NeoLobster: and then use that newer dpkg to install dpkg properly |
| 21:23.13 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 21:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1103] by debhelper |
| 21:24.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell NeoLobster -about bat |
| 21:26.00 | *** part/#debian ArchAttack (~ArchAttac@adsl-65-0-184-209.jan.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:26.02 | *** part/#debian mft (6d4dae03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.77.174.3) |
| 21:28.02 | *** join/#debian eon190 (b2634f1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.99.79.28) |
| 21:28.19 | eon190 | hi guys, i have a key generated with puttygen that i use in windows...can i use this with openssh-client? |
| 21:28.40 | *** part/#debian th0r (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 21:28.46 | eon190 | when i give it the key using -i it asks for a passphrase, though the key does not have one |
| 21:29.12 | *** join/#debian ixti (~ixti@70.Red-88-27-62.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:29.23 | dondelelcaro | eon190: then the passphase is empty, presumably |
| 21:29.39 | eon190 | dondelelcaro: yes, it doesnt accept that |
| 21:29.43 | abrotman | eon190: the putty website has a section on this i believe |
| 21:29.53 | eon190 | thanks |
| 21:29.54 | cantido | dondelelcaro: it shouldn't ask for the password if there isnt one.. |
| 21:29.59 | PerfDave | eon190: I think the Putty website has a tool to convert between putty and openssh formats |
| 21:30.12 | cantido | eon190: there is a tool for spliting putty's pub+priv combo file into the two parts |
| 21:30.15 | eon190 | ahh so its not compatible as is? |
| 21:30.35 | *** join/#debian h2mster (~h2mster@dslb-094-217-117-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:31.01 | PerfDave | eon190: No, it's a different format, but convertible |
| 21:31.29 | eon190 | its ssh-rsa2 |
| 21:31.35 | liiwi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.46 | liiwi | hrmpf |
| 21:31.50 | dondelelcaro | eon190: http://linux-sxs.org/networking/openssh.putty.html |
| 21:33.48 | *** join/#debian fulgore (~fulgore@glomsecurity.com) |
| 21:33.49 | *** join/#debian sythe (~quassel@bas1-ottawa08-1176109241.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:33.49 | *** join/#debian sythe (~quassel@unaffiliated/sythe) |
| 21:33.54 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 21:33.57 | *** join/#debian mibocote (~matt@bluemavid.com) |
| 21:33.57 | *** join/#debian h2mster_ (~h2mster@dslb-094-217-117-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1095] by debhelper |
| 21:34.38 | *** join/#debian luftikuss (~luftikuss@no.spaceleft.net) |
| 21:35.01 | eon190 | thanks, it does look like il need to get a hold of puttygen again |
| 21:35.48 | *** join/#debian rodrigods (~rodrigods@unaffiliated/rodrigods) |
| 21:36.37 | NeoLobster | Managed to get my problem fixed by using dpkg --force-all to install the new version of dpkg. Nothing scary like manually copying files over. |
| 21:37.09 | eon190 | i have another question while wine is installing...if i use the netinst cd (around 140-150MB one), and then install gnome-desktop-environment, is that the same as simply using the cd_1.iso? |
| 21:37.11 | Chelsea__ | Hi all, I was wondering, what does the repo's deb-src do exactly. When do you need them? |
| 21:37.43 | *** join/#debian klontj (cc6e0001@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.110.0.1) |
| 21:38.23 | eon190 | Chelsea__: if you want the source codd for your packages you can grab them there |
| 21:38.23 | eon190 | *code |
| 21:39.51 | *** join/#debian orak3l_ (~orak3l@g228142039.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:40.00 | *** join/#debian orak3l_ (~orak3l@unaffiliated/orak3l) |
| 21:40.07 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-24-4-180-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:40.18 | Maarten | so, I have noticed that regadless of which distro, ubuntu, mint, debian, which are the three I have used recently.... adobe flash seems sluggish, non-responsive, when playing Zynga games (such as empires and allies), where in Windows 7, it runs like a charm. Is this inherit to the "beast that is flash", or are there some optimizations that a user can do from within linux? |
| 21:40.39 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@103-182-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 21:40.45 | Chelsea__ | eon190, So if I don't need to build from source, I have no need for them? |
| 21:41.11 | eon190 | Chelsea__: correct, if you only use compiled then you dont need it and can comment it out |
| 21:41.14 | PerfDave | Maarten: Basicalyl, Flash is shit, Flash on GNU/Linux doubly so. |
| 21:41.29 | eon190 | thanks guys, i can login via ssh now with my converted key |
| 21:41.36 | *** join/#debian anaschema (~anaschema@gateway/tor-sasl/kirvax) |
| 21:41.53 | Chelsea__ | eon190, Thanx! |
| 21:42.51 | *** join/#debian CompWizrd (compwiz@d24-57-202-59.home.cgocable.net) |
| 21:42.53 | Maarten | PerfDave: yeah that's what I gather.... ah well. |
| 21:42.57 | eon190 | thanks again, bailing |
| 21:43.33 | PerfDave | Maarten: Having DRI enabled can help a little, but basically don't use proprietary software, particularly when the vendor doesn't give a toss about your platform. |
| 21:43.58 | *** join/#debian h2mster (~h2mster@dslb-094-217-117-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:45.11 | cantido | PerfDave: flash is fine on linux |
| 21:45.14 | seb82 | valdyn: so far so good in vbox with sarge... |
| 21:45.17 | cantido | PerfDave: it has been for a long time |
| 21:45.38 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 21:46.01 | *** join/#debian himuraken (~himuraken@fl-65-40-1-70.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 21:46.13 | cantido | Maarten: IIRC flash on linux doesnt do much optimisation for simple drawing stuff |
| 21:46.32 | cantido | Maarten: for video decoding it does use VA-API if you have it IIRC |
| 21:46.38 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
| 21:46.39 | PerfDave | cantido: No, Flash is a fucking dog on Linux, as well as being proprietary |
| 21:46.50 | seb82 | hey TrueDD, wot about ya? |
| 21:47.09 | cantido | PerfDave: works fine here.. except for the recent change to libc's memcpy fucking up audio |
| 21:47.11 | *** join/#debian harovali (~harovali@r190-64-105-106.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 21:47.37 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 21:47.39 | cantido | PerfDave: you can get specs for flash's internal workings too IIRC.. its open spec-wise |
| 21:47.42 | PerfDave | cantido: *shrug* YMMV, but whenever I've seen it it's been much slower at e.g. video than just running a proper free media player. |
| 21:47.42 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 21:47.46 | TrueDD | hey, Seb, all is right, thanks, how's it going for ya? |
| 21:48.05 | cantido | PerfDave: playing what formats? |
| 21:48.13 | PerfDave | *shrug* Flash video ;) |
| 21:48.19 | cantido | so H264? |
| 21:48.24 | PerfDave | Don't ask me, I don't use it. |
| 21:49.08 | cantido | H264 will be a ton slower than divx or xvid.. hence it might seem that a standalone player is "faster".. but I think recent versions of flash on linux can make use of VA-API |
| 21:49.35 | cantido | so if your hardware has hardware H264 decoding its basically free to decode |
| 21:50.11 | PerfDave | That's not what I've seen. |
| 21:50.18 | PerfDave | And it's still proprietary |
| 21:50.26 | PerfDave | But hey, if it works for you, that's lovely. |
| 21:50.42 | Amarande | last time I used the Adobe flash plugin rather than the free flash support that installs by default on Debian, I found it to be roughly as stable as beryllium-8. |
| 21:50.48 | Amarande | That might be giving it too much credit, too. |
| 21:51.13 | cantido | PerfDave: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf.html |
| 21:51.40 | PerfDave | cantido: I don't know what you're trying to prove with that link. |
| 21:51.56 | *** join/#debian darksk1ez (~mhb@darkskiez.ipv6.darkskiez.co.uk) |
| 21:51.58 | cantido | PerfDave: closed source and proprietary arent the same thing |
| 21:51.59 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 21:52.00 | PerfDave | Adobe Flash is proprietary software. MS Word can read and write OpenDocument, but that doesn't make it free. |
| 21:52.22 | PerfDave | cantido: I suggest you revisit your terminology, http://www.fsf.org/ should help |
| 21:52.44 | PerfDave | If Adobe Flash Player were not proprietary, it would be in Debian main :0 |
| 21:52.56 | *** join/#debian alexim (~alexim@67.137.73.90) |
| 21:53.49 | *** join/#debian iateadonut (~dan@cpe-72-184-72-59.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 21:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1089] by debhelper |
| 21:54.17 | cantido | PerfDave: The flash format itself is open.. you said "Flash" was closed |
| 21:54.29 | cantido | There are free flash players.. |
| 21:54.43 | PerfDave | Not any useful ones |
| 21:54.52 | PerfDave | cantido: We were talking about the Adobe Flash player, as well you know |
| 21:55.20 | PerfDave | There *might* be an open flash format, but there's no useful free software Flash player. |
| 21:55.50 | Amarande | Squeeze appears to install what's supposed to be Flash 10 support. |
| 21:55.50 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@80.31.215.169) |
| 21:56.06 | Amarande | It works well enough on some sites, though others, like the Word Whomp game on Pogo, don't really care for it. |
| 21:56.18 | *** join/#debian jal93 (~IceChat77@217.118.83.150) |
| 21:56.36 | cantido | PerfDave: Depends on what you consider useful.. the opensource player can manage youtube most of the time |
| 21:56.54 | negge | does anyone know if there are any mirrors of bugzilla.kernel.org? |
| 21:56.54 | Amarande | I know it's good enough for Youtube, though that may be more Iceweasel 9.0 just having that much support for HTML5 that it's using that version instead of the flash? I've heard YT is migrating to HTML5, anyway. |
| 21:57.13 | PerfDave | Amarande: yeah, YouTube is going to HTML5, not sure what codec they're using though |
| 21:57.30 | *** join/#debian jargon- (~dayo@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 21:57.37 | cantido | Amarande: HTML5 doesnt really exist yet.. the video tag that youtube is/will be using has mixed support |
| 21:57.59 | Amarande | apparently it exists enough that Amazon is using it for their web based Kindle offering |
| 21:58.15 | cantido | Amarande: if Iceweasel has the codec that youtube is using it should work.. but IIRC Mozilla said they wouldnt import google's codecs.. which I guess google would want to use |
| 21:58.18 | PerfDave | Amarande: People have been using 802.11n for years, still doesn't mean it's a defined standard ;) |
| 21:58.41 | PerfDave | thinks HTML5 is largely crazy |
| 21:58.46 | Amarande | ... and insists on only letting Chrome and Safari users use it, even though FF/IW 8.0 and 9.0 seem like they should *probably* be able to handle it. :| |
| 21:58.48 | cantido | Amarande: HTML5 == video and canvas tags ATM |
| 21:59.06 | *** join/#debian dchapman1988 (~d@gateway/tor-sasl/dchapman1988) |
| 22:00.17 | PerfDave | A fully compliant HTML5 browser is going to need to include a PDF renderer, a client-side relational database and an OpenGL implementation from my reading of the current standards. |
| 22:00.31 | PerfDave | Which is going to make browsing with w3m even harder ;) |
| 22:01.24 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ1113 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.208.135) |
| 22:01.31 | cantido | People need to realise that browsers arent application frameworks at some point.. |
| 22:01.35 | cantido | its getting a bit silly |
| 22:02.00 | BlastHardcheese | of course not, they're operating systems |
| 22:02.15 | cantido | at this rate a browser is going to replace init |
| 22:02.18 | PerfDave | Chrome is a great OS, I just wish it had a good browser ;) |
| 22:03.10 | *** join/#debian CannedCorn (~CannedCor@207.239.107.3) |
| 22:03.19 | Amarande | Dave: http://html5test.com/ |
| 22:03.31 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-233-100.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 22:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1082] by debhelper |
| 22:04.51 | *** join/#debian DEDD_MORROZZ1113 (~DEDD_MORR@178.123.208.135) |
| 22:05.02 | PerfDave | Amarande: My browser can't even take the test, since it doesn't do JavaScript :) |
| 22:05.10 | *** join/#debian tdfischer_ (~quassel@wm161.net) |
| 22:06.25 | *** join/#debian tdfischer (~quassel@pdpc/supporter/student/tdfischer) |
| 22:06.35 | *** join/#debian stepdown (~stepdown_@93-97-50-23.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:06.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | Amarande: handy linkm :) |
| 22:06.56 | stepdown | hello |
| 22:08.21 | *** join/#debian hycer (~hycer@chaos.ascera.org) |
| 22:08.52 | *** join/#debian cplx (~cplx@118.127.32.206) |
| 22:09.02 | *** join/#debian isaac1024 (~isaac1024@95.60.222.77) |
| 22:09.18 | *** join/#debian h2mster (~h2mster@dslb-094-217-117-193.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:09.19 | *** join/#debian nuke- (nuke@i.got.evils.in) |
| 22:09.38 | *** join/#debian odyi (~ody@soifon.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 22:09.38 | *** join/#debian odyi (~ody@puppetlabs/ps/odyi) |
| 22:10.43 | *** join/#debian sailerboy (sailerboy@ipv61.sailerboy.net) |
| 22:10.48 | *** join/#debian psiklops (~rahsputin@wrzb-590ccdd8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:10.53 | *** join/#debian Benkinooby (~Benkinoob@unaffiliated/benkinooby) |
| 22:10.55 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 22:12.05 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (~Bac9@2406:a000:f000:b201:224:1dff:fe78:d7bd) |
| 22:12.40 | *** join/#debian Mr_Queue (~Mr_Queue@208.94.243.154) |
| 22:12.47 | *** join/#debian dev0 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-41-206.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 22:12.52 | *** join/#debian Kazen (~Kazen@541F9A12.cm-5-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:13.38 | *** join/#debian dchapman1988 (~d@gateway/tor-sasl/dchapman1988) |
| 22:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1059] by debhelper |
| 22:15.01 | *** join/#debian cplx_ (~cplx@118.127.32.206) |
| 22:15.29 | *** join/#debian BenLue (~Ben@178-83-39-213.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:15.41 | *** join/#debian lahwran- (~lahwran@ipv6.sonicrules.org) |
| 22:17.15 | *** join/#debian lahwran- (~lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran) |
| 22:17.21 | *** join/#debian sailerboy (sailerboy@ipv61.sailerboy.net) |
| 22:18.28 | *** join/#debian unforgiven512 (~unforgive@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:9fa9) |
| 22:18.34 | *** join/#debian Atlas (atlas@unaffiliated/atlas-) |
| 22:19.03 | *** join/#debian Protux (~Protux@241.164.66.86.rev.sfr.net) |
| 22:19.30 | *** join/#debian blommer (~blommer@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:d3c0:ed9b) |
| 22:19.42 | *** join/#debian EduardeCalibal (~Eduarde@novoseusadosinformatica.com.br) |
| 22:19.48 | *** join/#debian mikemol (~mikemol@2605:2700:0:3::4713:93e3) |
| 22:19.58 | *** join/#debian preller_ (~preller@46.182.125.29) |
| 22:20.01 | *** join/#debian nuke- (nuke@i.got.evils.in) |
| 22:20.41 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 22:21.21 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~RobinJ@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 22:21.25 | *** join/#debian dxrt (~dxrt@2607:f358:1:fed5:11:0:1399:1) |
| 22:21.35 | *** join/#debian depressed (~depressed@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:8e19:e295) |
| 22:22.34 | BenLue | Can i copy normal Debian Netinstall on my USB Stick, ore i become Errors with my CDROM Device ? |
| 22:22.44 | *** join/#debian valdyn_ (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 22:23.36 | *** join/#debian dgm_077 (~dgm_077@port-92-206-41-206.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 22:24.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1052] by debhelper |
| 22:24.04 | *** join/#debian Stupendoussteve (~Stevie@pdpc/supporter/student/stupendoussteve) |
| 22:24.30 | *** join/#debian popkill (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 22:24.31 | MrFrood | !tell BenLue about usb install |
| 22:24.36 | j-v-e | BenLue: http://wiki.linuxwall.info/doku.php/en:ressources:astuces:netinstall_usb <== is that what you are looking for ? |
| 22:25.24 | *** join/#debian valdyn__ (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 22:25.28 | *** join/#debian Fudge (~TAS@220-253-37-186.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 22:26.01 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (~anubisss@188-143-83-183.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 22:26.06 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@homestuck.iskon.hr) |
| 22:26.08 | *** join/#debian el_seano (el_seano@reaver.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 22:27.06 | *** join/#debian fuho (~fuho@ool-43548e6f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:27.43 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 22:27.56 | *** part/#debian mortne (~chatzilla@0139100337.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 22:28.05 | *** join/#debian Maarten (~dutchusa@unaffiliated/maarten) |
| 22:28.19 | fuho | Hi, I am installing LAMP on debian and can't figue out how to activate libgd in php.ini. Should I copy libgd.so somewhere? |
| 22:30.07 | j-v-e | gd.so is installed with the package php5-gd, the library itself will be copied into /usr/lib/php5/<number>/gd.so but it's dynamically linked so it points to a bunch of other libraries |
| 22:30.29 | *** join/#debian Saar (~Saar@63.80.172.147) |
| 22:30.32 | j-v-e | just install php5-gd should do the job |
| 22:30.45 | fuho | j-v-e: Thanks, is there a list of extension anywhere online so I can install all of them at once? |
| 22:31.17 | j-v-e | it all depends on the application you are installing, so no there is no predefined list |
| 22:31.32 | fuho | j-v-e: I will need cURL too |
| 22:31.48 | j-v-e | but if you look at the dependencied of some popular php app, like roundcubemail, you would have an idea |
| 22:31.58 | j-v-e | apt-cache search php curl ;) |
| 22:32.34 | fuho | thanks :) I think they will also foolow some srt of naming convention, like php5-curl for example ;) |
| 22:33.45 | *** join/#debian el_seano (el_seano@reaver.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 22:35.16 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 22:37.24 | *** join/#debian semprix (~semprix@180.191.84.33) |
| 22:37.41 | *** join/#debian semprix (~semprix@unaffiliated/semprix) |
| 22:37.49 | *** join/#debian psiklops (~rahsputin@wrzb-590ccdd8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:37.57 | *** join/#debian oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 22:38.08 | oldtopman | haloo |
| 22:38.15 | *** join/#debian alfalfa (~IceChat9@c-68-54-63-55.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:38.19 | *** join/#debian semprix (~semprix@unaffiliated/semprix) |
| 22:38.36 | *** join/#debian synapse (~synapse@c-76-109-67-205.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:38.47 | *** join/#debian dzup (~dzup@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 22:38.48 | synapse | is it possible to archive/tar a fakeroot environment? |
| 22:39.10 | psiklops | hello. i have a USB-Floppy Drive, it is reconized as /dev/sdb... with what command(s) can i have it reconized as /dev/fd0 |
| 22:40.07 | oldtopman | psiklops, "mount /dev/sdb /mnt/fd0" |
| 22:40.32 | oldtopman | Is there a way to have a long click recognised as a right-click? |
| 22:40.38 | *** join/#debian nutron (~dserban@24.67.96.21) |
| 22:41.31 | oldtopman | I have a tablet, and this ix getting to be quite the hwndicap. :{ |
| 22:42.39 | psiklops | oldmantop: as "/dev/fd0 not /mnt/fd0" i do not want to mount it |
| 22:43.05 | amphi | psiklops: why do you care what the device is called? |
| 22:43.47 | *** join/#debian alexim (~alexim@67.137.73.90) |
| 22:43.50 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 22:44.12 | psiklops | amphi: because i am trying to make a "Tomsrtbt" Floppy for a ancient Laptop |
| 22:44.24 | oldtopman | pffft |
| 22:44.28 | *** join/#debian Apeiron` (~Apeiron@dflo-67-158-146-1.gtcom.net) |
| 22:44.41 | amphi | psiklops: you can't dd the image to /dev/sdb ? |
| 22:44.51 | somiaj | psiklops: configure udev to give that device its own node. But it shouldn't matter what its called. |
| 22:45.03 | oldtopman | dd if=<your image file> of=/dev/sdb |
| 22:45.15 | amphi | I assume that's what you have, an floppy image |
| 22:45.45 | psiklops | amphi: there isnt any image |
| 22:45.46 | Amarande | wow, root and boot disks, I remember those |
| 22:45.46 | *** join/#debian rdponticelli (~quassel@200-081-044-072.wireless.movistar.net.ar) |
| 22:45.55 | synapse | is it possible to archive/tar a fakeroot environment? |
| 22:45.58 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@pdpc/supporter/active/pzn) |
| 22:46.18 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 22:46.52 | *** join/#debian H2S04 (~wee@gateway/tor-sasl/h2s04) |
| 22:47.23 | oldtopman | Is there a way to have a long click reconised as a right click? I'm on a twblet. |
| 22:47.34 | psiklops | amphi, oldtopman: http://www.toms.net/rb |
| 22:47.44 | oldtopman | swears at the stupid kbd |
| 22:48.12 | synapse | tablets are the future! |
| 22:48.15 | psiklops | oldtopman: what is a tablet ? |
| 22:48.22 | synapse | like an ipad |
| 22:49.09 | *** join/#debian lansiir (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 22:49.24 | psiklops | olstopman: i have know idea... what system is running on it, and what takes care of that behaviour in the first place ? |
| 22:49.32 | lansiir | is oldtopman |
| 22:49.42 | psiklops | oldtopman sorry |
| 22:49.47 | lansiir | Np |
| 22:49.52 | lansiir | Touchpad died :< |
| 22:50.02 | lansiir | bailed and opened his droid |
| 22:50.22 | lansiir | All I need is some form of right click...hrm... |
| 22:50.25 | amphi | psiklops: tomsrtbt.raw isn't an image? |
| 22:50.40 | psiklops | amphi: that is th image ? |
| 22:50.49 | lansiir | Probably |
| 22:50.52 | amphi | dunno - might be ;) |
| 22:51.03 | psiklops | :-) i'll try it out |
| 22:51.04 | lansiir | How big is it? |
| 22:51.05 | psiklops | thanx |
| 22:51.10 | amphi | psiklops: what does file(1) say about it |
| 22:51.11 | amphi | ? |
| 22:51.17 | *** join/#debian semprix (~semprix@unaffiliated/semprix) |
| 22:51.35 | psiklops | 1763328 |
| 22:51.36 | amphi | 'file tomsrtbt.raw' |
| 22:51.39 | *** part/#debian synapse (~synapse@c-76-109-67-205.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:52.00 | *** join/#debian negge (~sam@cs109108025024.pp.htv.fi) |
| 22:52.03 | *** join/#debian th0r1 (~steve@216-49-170-81.islc.net) |
| 22:52.57 | *** join/#debian sigterm (~sigterm@2001:470:d:e3f:21c:c0ff:fe67:69bf) |
| 22:52.58 | psiklops | Linux/i386 LILO boot/chain loader |
| 22:53.22 | amphi | and the size? |
| 22:53.27 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av1-84-91-22-6.netvisao.pt) |
| 22:53.45 | psiklops | 1.7 |
| 22:53.47 | psiklops | MB |
| 22:53.53 | psiklops | :-) |
| 22:54.03 | psiklops | okok |
| 22:55.14 | *** join/#debian CannedCo_ (~CannedCor@rrcs-50-74-0-42.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:55.30 | amphi | looks like an image, I'd try dd-ing it and see what happens |
| 22:56.38 | psiklops | i remember doing this a long time ago... i think i used thae command superformat or something... i dont remember.... the floppy is 1.44 |
| 22:57.04 | *** join/#debian mohamed-ragab (~mohamed@41.232.107.101) |
| 22:58.03 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 22:58.14 | *** join/#debian sevard (sev@unaffiliated/sevard) |
| 22:58.31 | sevard | Is the squeeze package for mediawiki on crack? |
| 22:58.49 | *** join/#debian treb0r (~treb0r@xvm-18-54.ghst.net) |
| 22:59.24 | *** join/#debian rubidious (~mage@156.34.78.238) |
| 22:59.32 | *** join/#debian b52 (~b52@unaffiliated/b52) |
| 22:59.56 | rubidious | What is the correct way to remove a startup process in debian now? update-rc.d is deprecated? |
| 23:00.06 | *** join/#debian Seth_Hikaru (~DXD@unaffiliated/seth-hikaru/x-6553659) |
| 23:00.07 | sevard | I believe I followed all the steps and I've been poking around the apache configs and googling for the past two hours but I still have "The requested URL /mediawiki/config was not found on this server" and I'm unsure as to why. |
| 23:00.11 | sevard | The package deposited the pho scripts in /var/lib/mediawiki but apache2/error.log is complaining about /var/www/mediawiki not existing.../etc/apache2/conf.d/mediawiki.conf is the only place I see a path mentioned for mediawiki and it mentions /var/lib/mediawiki not /var/www/mediawiki |
| 23:01.34 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 23:02.01 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 23:02.12 | *** join/#debian lansiir (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 23:02.37 | *** part/#debian mark76 (~mark76@cpc10-nfds14-2-0-cust293.8-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:02.54 | *** join/#debian sigterm (~sigterm@2001:470:d:e3f:21c:c0ff:fe67:69bf) |
| 23:06.22 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~localhost@unaffiliated/thegeek1024) |
| 23:06.30 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.77.241.151) |
| 23:07.38 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (~Bac9@2406:a000:f000:b201:224:1dff:fe78:d7bd) |
| 23:07.55 | *** join/#debian fredden (~fredden@unaffiliated/fredden) |
| 23:09.08 | *** part/#debian psiklops (~rahsputin@wrzb-590ccdd8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 23:09.21 | *** join/#debian hackeron (~hackeron@cpc2-seve4-0-0-cust602.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:09.48 | *** join/#debian b52 (~b52@unaffiliated/b52) |
| 23:12.00 | *** join/#debian liable (~liable@unaffiliated/liable) |
| 23:12.17 | *** join/#debian k405 (~phiostu`@unaffiliated/k405) |
| 23:12.48 | *** join/#debian e3d3 (~e3d3@i213226.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 23:14.30 | *** join/#debian CrazyGir (~jason@li14-82.members.linode.com) |
| 23:14.41 | *** join/#debian rww (~rww@freenode/staff/rww) |
| 23:15.15 | *** join/#debian Parsifal (~steven@palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au) |
| 23:15.32 | *** join/#debian mikemol (~mikemol@2605:2700:0:3::4713:93e3) |
| 23:15.57 | *** join/#debian cmyers (~cmyers@ip2.cmyers.org) |
| 23:16.13 | *** join/#debian Guest25968 (~mentor@31.172.189.21) |
| 23:16.13 | *** join/#debian infinity_ (~brendon@web2.artsopolis.com) |
| 23:18.14 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-71-233-237-67.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:18.55 | *** join/#debian hackeron (~hackeron@cpc2-seve4-0-0-cust602.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:19.09 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@202.36.179.68) |
| 23:19.49 | *** join/#debian spowers (~sam@j3b.us) |
| 23:19.49 | *** join/#debian mibocote (~matt@bluemavid.com) |
| 23:20.11 | *** join/#debian lahwran (~lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran) |
| 23:21.01 | *** join/#debian kegwin (~textual@c-24-23-46-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:21.02 | *** join/#debian cmyers (~cmyers@ip2.cmyers.org) |
| 23:21.29 | *** join/#debian blommer (~blommer@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:d3c0:ed9b) |
| 23:21.40 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 23:21.48 | *** join/#debian b52 (~b52@unaffiliated/b52) |
| 23:22.37 | *** join/#debian sigterm (~sigterm@2001:470:d:e3f:21c:c0ff:fe67:69bf) |
| 23:22.47 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~RobinJ@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 23:24.29 | *** join/#debian aidalgol (~user@202.36.179.68) |
| 23:24.55 | *** join/#debian mibocote (~matt@bluemavid.com) |
| 23:25.11 | *** join/#debian unforgiven512 (~unforgive@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:9fa9) |
| 23:26.02 | *** join/#debian initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) |
| 23:26.09 | *** join/#debian redrs (~redrs@li230-94.members.linode.com) |
| 23:26.16 | *** join/#debian lyte_ (~lyte@114-198-121-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:28.10 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-74-76-254-36.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:28.31 | *** join/#debian d1b (~db@d1b.org) |
| 23:29.12 | *** join/#debian fulgore (~fulgore@glomsecurity.com) |
| 23:29.24 | *** join/#debian S4nD3r (~sander@189.7.70.26) |
| 23:29.28 | rubidious | Anyone? |
| 23:29.42 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host86.190-225-41.telecom.net.ar) |
| 23:30.07 | lansiir | Eh |
| 23:30.08 | lansiir | ? |
| 23:31.07 | *** join/#debian Seth_Hikaru_ (~DXD@unaffiliated/seth-hikaru/x-6553659) |
| 23:32.04 | abrotman | rubidious: did you ask anything? |
| 23:32.23 | *** join/#debian sigterm (~sigterm@2001:470:d:e3f:21c:c0ff:fe67:69bf) |
| 23:32.56 | *** join/#debian debiantonio (~debianton@187.107.35.75) |
| 23:33.01 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av1-84-91-22-6.netvisao.pt) |
| 23:33.59 | *** join/#debian stasis (~stasis@209.141.55.242) |
| 23:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1060] by debhelper |
| 23:34.01 | *** join/#debian Seth_Hikaru (~DXD@unaffiliated/seth-hikaru/x-6553659) |
| 23:35.02 | *** join/#debian Jguy (~kvirc@c-71-201-148-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:35.24 | *** join/#debian dxrt (~dxrt@2607:f358:1:fed5:11:0:1399:1) |
| 23:35.30 | *** join/#debian blommer (~blommer@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:d3c0:ed9b) |
| 23:35.36 | *** join/#debian elky (~melissa@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elky) |
| 23:36.23 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@206.28.63.39) |
| 23:36.23 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 23:37.35 | *** join/#debian rdponticelli (~quassel@200-081-044-072.wireless.movistar.net.ar) |
| 23:38.43 | *** join/#debian peterS (~peter@wire.p12n.org) |
| 23:39.05 | *** join/#debian RobinJ (~RobinJ@unaffiliated/robinj) |
| 23:40.00 | *** join/#debian elky (~melissa@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elky) |
| 23:42.37 | *** join/#debian H2S04 (~wee@gateway/tor-sasl/h2s04) |
| 23:42.49 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 23:43.45 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.50.28.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:44.30 | *** join/#debian lans11r (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) |
| 23:46.05 | *** join/#debian popkill_ (~popkill@unaffiliated/popkill) |
| 23:46.12 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@206.248.136.46) |
| 23:46.41 | *** join/#debian lahwran (lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran) |
| 23:46.50 | *** join/#debian tetreb (~tetreb@178-191-255-29.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 23:47.02 | *** join/#debian Stupendoussteve (~Stevie@pdpc/supporter/student/stupendoussteve) |
| 23:47.07 | *** join/#debian never_ (~never@c-69-137-93-203.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.41 | *** join/#debian sigterm (~sigterm@2001:470:d:e3f:21c:c0ff:fe67:69bf) |
| 23:47.43 | *** join/#debian Gaijin (~user@unaffiliated/sologaijin) |
| 23:47.51 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@19-100-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 23:48.08 | *** join/#debian flamingspinach_ (~hahaohwow@wikipedia/flamingspinach) |
| 23:48.45 | *** join/#debian keropok (~keropok@2001:470:1c:639::2) |
| 23:48.56 | TrueDD | Good night everybody |
| 23:49.26 | *** join/#debian sno (sno@orgy.org.org) |
| 23:49.36 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@19-100-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 23:49.38 | *** join/#debian elky (~melissa@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elky) |
| 23:49.59 | *** join/#debian blommer (~blommer@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:d3c0:ed9b) |
| 23:50.13 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:d810:f73f:2264:ff17) |
| 23:51.23 | dvs | TrueDD: you cant leave! |
| 23:51.38 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:52.23 | *** join/#debian satellit_ (~satellit@2002:d064:8d43:0:219:d1ff:fe73:14e6) |
| 23:52.48 | TrueDD | dvs, oh? :s |
| 23:53.01 | *** join/#debian b52 (~b52@unaffiliated/b52) |
| 23:53.02 | *** join/#debian odyi (~ody@soifon.cat.pdx.edu) |
| 23:53.02 | *** join/#debian odyi (~ody@puppetlabs/ps/odyi) |
| 23:53.09 | TrueDD | hey, abrotman & dvs |
| 23:53.13 | dvs | TrueDD: You'll be back! |
| 23:53.45 | TrueDD | dvs, that's right, I will :) |
| 23:53.56 | *** join/#debian tetreb (~tetreb@178-191-255-29.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 23:54.16 | *** join/#debian daveo (~daveo@97.73.171.234) |
| 23:56.21 | rubidious | abrotman: yes, I'm wondering what the new standard way to remove startup processes is (in debian). update-rc.d seems to be deprecated? |
| 23:56.39 | abrotman | rubidious: rcconf? |
| 23:56.46 | abrotman | didn't know update-rc.d was deprecated |
| 23:56.51 | *** join/#debian caveat- (~false@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-cxjgxboirwmhkdsy) |
| 23:57.24 | rubidious | abrotman: rcconf is not standard |
| 23:57.43 | abrotman | rubidious: what happens when you use update-rc.d ? |
| 23:57.59 | rubidious | update-rc.d complains that "update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing" |
| 23:58.01 | *** join/#debian JohnTortugo (~john@201.82.75.79) |