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| 00:38.09 | MrHatter | i've got a squeeze apt problem :- this box was upgraded from lenny, now when do an aptitude safe-upgrade after an aptitude update : i am getting a neverending cycle of 'resolving dependencies' and 'open: 119; closed: 3682; defer: 1914; conflict: 34 ' these... what do i do ? |
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| 00:39.09 | MrFrood | MrHatter: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 00:39.56 | wirelessinstalld | Hi i'm trying to do a netinst over an usecured wireless network and missing the drivers. i've downloaded the .ucode files but where can I put them on the install file system so they are recognized. the installer asks for them to be on a separate usb but I only have one and it doesnt seem to recognize other usb sticks anyway at this point |
| 00:40.40 | wirelessinstalld | so i've mounted the netinst usb rw but im not sure where to put the .ucode files so the installer will find them |
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| 00:41.34 | MrHatter | mrfrood, it was a few weeks ago i did it, but i did go through all the steps on the debian install page, it all appeared to go through fine and is on squeeze now, |
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| 00:42.27 | MrHatter | MrFrood, ah now that i use apt-get instead of aptitude its working |
| 00:42.34 | MrHatter | MrFrood, thx |
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| 00:53.16 | wirelessinstalld | does anyone know where i can put driver files on the net-install file system so they are recongized by the installer? |
| 00:54.58 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, like firmware files? |
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| 01:00.52 | wirelessinstalld | goshawk1: yeah.. firmware for my wireless card |
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| 01:05.36 | photon | is there a way to get the current version of a software package in both the stable and test distros without having them installed? |
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| 01:06.43 | ToHellWithGA | i'm looking at http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/liblivemedia-dev/filelist wondering how lib[foo]_pic.a differs from lib[foo].a |
| 01:07.05 | ToHellWithGA | are any of y'all familiar enough with the live555 devel package to help me figure out the difference? |
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| 01:10.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | perhaps it uses position independent code? |
| 01:10.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | ToHellWithGA: why do you care? :) |
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| 01:11.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | ToHellWithGA: debian rules does the move, why i can' ttell you. |
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| 01:11.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | debian/rules: mv "$${f}/lib$${f}.a" "$${f}/lib$${f}_pic.a"; \ |
| 01:11.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | debian/rules: dh_install -pliblivemedia-dev "$${f}/lib$${f}_pic.a" "usr/lib"; \ |
| 01:11.49 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, I'm not sure exactly how you are doing this, but, I just messed with installing from USB memory sticks and all I had to do was create a folder in the root of th stick called "firmware" and copy the uncompressed firmware files into it |
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| 01:12.25 | wirelessinstalld | goshawk1: same usb stick as the install files were on or a different one? |
| 01:12.47 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, same one |
| 01:12.56 | wirelessinstalld | goshawk1: oh sweet. ill try that. thanks! |
| 01:13.06 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, this was for debian, picked up the firmware auto matically |
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| 01:13.38 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, good luck |
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| 01:14.57 | ToHellWithGA | Kamping_Kaiser: the files are not being made on mac os x for me |
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| 01:15.39 | ToHellWithGA | debian's package info is an indispensable reference for figuring out which files are necessary and which are fluff when building sparsely-documented software on os x |
| 01:16.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | ToHellWithGA: grab the source package and look in debian/rules, you'll see how the lines i pasted above relate to the rest of the build |
| 01:16.16 | wirelessinstalld | goshawk1: any idea why i wouldnt be able to mount the usb rw? im in openbsd right now and it keeps telling me "Read-only file system" even when i 'mount -o rw'. did you run into this? |
| 01:16.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | note that its using old style dh_* for the grunt work |
| 01:17.05 | ToHellWithGA | thanks man |
| 01:17.07 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, no, I created my usb stick on a debian machine |
| 01:17.16 | wirelessinstalld | ok thanks goshawk1 |
| 01:17.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | ToHellWithGA: no problem. good luck with it |
| 01:17.38 | goshawk1 | wirelessinstalld, np |
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| 01:31.01 | terr | Jordan_U: You ban me from Ubuntu and for why? Because I say we need to improve? because I say we should be able to install if we can boot the machine? Come on now. I am 59 years old. I run Terralogic. I might happen to know some things since I've done millions in business with some of the top companies in the world. |
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| 01:33.10 | Skeeter- | How can I resize a crypted partition? |
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| 01:35.41 | Jordan_U | terr: If you would like to discuss your ban please join #ubuntu-ops. #debian is a support channel, and like #ubuntu should not be cluttered with non-support discussion. |
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| 01:37.42 | terr | Jordan_U: I'm there |
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| 01:54.35 | sary | Salutation. |
| 01:55.28 | sary | i've just installed Squeeze and i got no DE , only tty1. |
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| 01:56.59 | sary | whats package name for the full Gnome DE ? |
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| 01:58.06 | jelly-home | !tell sary about install gnome |
| 01:58.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | sary: try installing the desktop task using tasksel instead |
| 01:58.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home: or that :) |
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| 02:01.08 | AlecTaylor | hi |
| 02:01.10 | AlecTaylor | How do I automatically install all the dependencies for a given .deb? (trying to install mplayer) |
| 02:01.34 | th0r | AlecTaylor: synaptic or aptitude should take care of that for you |
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| 02:02.26 | AlecTaylor | It doesn't :\ |
| 02:02.47 | Dewi | AlecTaylor: use apt instead of dpkg directly |
| 02:02.48 | somiaj | AlecTaylor: where did you get this mysterous mplayer deb from? |
| 02:03.04 | Dewi | AlecTaylor: if you want to use dpkg directly like that, you are choosing to do things manually |
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| 02:03.55 | somiaj | AlecTaylor: apt-get -f install (will probabaly fix it all for you provided the mysterous mplayer .deb you got is compiled against the version of debian you are using) |
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| 02:05.35 | sary | Kamping_Kaiser: i see what you mean , aptitude |
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| 02:08.18 | AlecTaylor | There should be a install-deps switch for dpkg |
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| 02:11.56 | th0r | AlecTaylor: there is, it's called apt-get |
| 02:13.04 | somiaj | AlecTaylor: no there shouldn't your .deb could come from anywhere, unless you get it from an offical repo, it might not even be possible to install the right dependencies for this random deb for your debian version |
| 02:13.21 | th0r | somiaj: he isn't even running debian |
| 02:13.24 | somiaj | AlecTaylor: really unless you know what your doing you should only use apt-get/aptitude and only install packages from the offical debian repos for your single debian version |
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| 02:13.47 | somiaj | th0r: then he shouldn't be asking questions in #debian. :D |
| 02:13.55 | th0r | somiaj: I know. |
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| 02:16.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is there a command i can run to lock the machine |
| 02:16.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is there a command i can run to lock the machine1;2B |
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| 02:17.42 | somiaj | Eryn_1983_FL: xlockmore, xscreensaver both provide that functionality |
| 02:19.03 | somiaj | thing gnome may have its own locking functionality maybe though gdm, but not sure how to use it |
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| 02:19.49 | sary | now am forced to insert the disc labeled in the drive /media/cdrom , the installation was from a USB stick not a CD .. iirc , there is a file that i can remove a line from to pass that .. which i can't recall at the moment! |
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| 02:22.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | ut how do i invoke the screen saver from the cli? I am using stumpwm atm and it dont got the fancy stuff |
| 02:23.34 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL: xscreensaver is the command, but you will need some command line options. Check the man page |
| 02:23.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | k |
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| 02:26.15 | somiaj | sary: you can just mount your usb drive at that mount point |
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| 02:28.26 | navysealltblue|A | So I'm attempting an install from a netinst image but the installer keeps trying to install the base package from the cd. Is there a way to tell the installer to ignore the cd as a source? |
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| 02:29.16 | th0r | navysealltblue|A: there are some things the install needs from the cd before it can even get the network up and running |
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| 02:30.35 | navysealltblue|A | th0r: the network has already been configured by dhcp, I am all the way up to installing the base system, and it keeps trying to pull nonexistant packages from the disc... |
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| 02:32.37 | Skeeter- | i got 16tb ext4 |
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| 02:33.11 | th0r | Skeeter-: how you going to back it up? |
| 02:33.15 | Skeeter- | i cant resize |
| 02:33.22 | Skeeter- | its too big |
| 02:33.25 | Skeeter- | what can i do |
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| 02:35.32 | sary | somiaj: right , thx buddy. |
| 02:35.38 | Skeeter- | this is stupid |
| 02:35.55 | Skeeter- | how would they allow me to make a big FS to big that i cant resize afterward |
| 02:35.56 | Skeeter- | wtf |
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| 02:37.06 | navysealltblue|A | Skeetery: Why can't you resize it? |
| 02:37.34 | navysealltblue|A | Skeeter-* |
| 02:37.53 | Skeeter- | resize2fs: File too large while trying to determine filesystem size |
| 02:38.21 | rypervenche | How can I made a bootable USB drive for multiple liveCDs without using something like unetbootin? I don't like the main screen on unetbootin and I would like to learn how to do this manually, even for just one liveCD. |
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| 02:41.34 | somiaj | rypervenche: the debian images are dual images, you can just dd the image to the usb drive |
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| 02:42.27 | rypervenche | somiaj: How would I know if an ISO is a dual image? |
| 02:42.51 | rypervenche | somiaj: And also because I would like to put multiple ISOs on one USB drive and be able to choose between them. |
| 02:42.54 | Skeeter- | navysealltblue|A: im not sure why |
| 02:43.15 | navysealltblue|A | Rypervenche for multiple images, you'll want a bootloader to load up the installer of your choice syslinux or grub should work |
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| 02:45.02 | somiaj | rypervenche: all debians bootable isos are dual for either put on a disc or a usb massstorage device |
| 02:45.03 | navysealltblue|A | Skeeter-: well, I'm not sure who is in a worse boat, you with the unresizable fs, or me with the installer from hell, which apparently keeps bjorking grabbing files from the cd instead of just downloading them like a netinst cd should... |
| 02:45.17 | rypervenche | navysealltblue|A: And I just basically unzip the iso and copy everything over? |
| 02:45.39 | somiaj | rypervenche: for multiple images, I would just copy the .iso onto a partition and use the loopback device to mount them |
| 02:45.55 | navysealltblue|A | Rypervenche: as opposed to rhel and centos disks which get cranky when run from usb |
| 02:46.04 | somiaj | rypervenche: from tehre you only need a single one to boot, so just partition your usbhd, make the first partition bootable with one image, copy the images to another partion, mount them as you need them. |
| 02:47.12 | rypervenche | Well, I was planning on putting a few on it, Debian, LMDE, and a few others that I can use to install Linux on others' computers, so it would be to boot up into from computers without Linux on them. |
| 02:47.39 | navysealltblue|A | Rypervenche, if its dualboot, theoretically, yes that should work, but using something like syslinux or grub you can just load up each iso through there if that's how you wanted it. |
| 02:47.40 | somiaj | rypervenche: then you'll have to go with the bootloader option and partition your usbhd up accordinally |
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| 02:49.14 | rypervenche | Ok, so in that case do I need to copy over the files inside the ISO or just the ISOs themselves? |
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| 02:51.06 | somiaj | I'm not sure if grub can boot from an iso |
| 02:51.18 | navysealltblue|A | Rypervenche: either will work if the installer supports it. |
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| 02:51.46 | navysealltblue|A | somiaj, I am pretty sure it does. |
| 02:52.39 | nezZario | which one is kept more updated, |
| 02:52.50 | nezZario | lynx or links ? |
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| 02:53.39 | th0r | nezZario: links2 has a few features on those other two |
| 02:54.04 | nezZario | i don't care much about features...just a text based browser that works and isn't too old ;) |
| 02:54.24 | th0r | nezZario: well...you asked about more up to date... |
| 02:55.22 | navysealltblue|A | Last stable release of lynx was over a year ago, last preview 8 months ago |
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| 02:55.55 | navysealltblue|A | Links last stable 30 days ago |
| 02:56.11 | navysealltblue|A | Preview was 19 months ago. |
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| 02:56.50 | navysealltblue|A | Personally, I prefer links because of its x-less graphics mode, kinda cool... |
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| 02:57.31 | nezZario | yeah, if I install the links pkg it's not going to try to install a bunch of x11 crap is it? |
| 02:57.36 | nezZario | i guess I can take a look |
| 02:58.00 | navysealltblue|A | No, it won't, nezzario |
| 02:58.16 | nezZario | crap, I'm sorry..how do I go "back" on a screen in aptitude ? |
| 02:58.21 | nezZario | I'm a little newbie to debian here |
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| 02:58.30 | nezZario | 'q', nvm |
| 02:58.35 | yagoo | nezZario, I use lynx for fast readme navigation across /usr/share/doc |
| 02:58.44 | yagoo | (lynx /usr/share/doc) |
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| 02:59.26 | koshieFinalReliz | Hi |
| 02:59.42 | nezZario | yeah I just need something to quickly view a simple html page here and there.. |
| 02:59.59 | nezZario | p.s., I have to say it everytime I'm around other debian users |
| 03:00.02 | nezZario | debian ROCKS |
| 03:00.11 | yagoo | nezZario, u can also bookmark local paths with lynx.. (use 'v') |
| 03:00.26 | nezZario | you have to understand, I use about every OS imaginable on a daily basis: netbsd, freebsd, openbsd, rhel based, and arch |
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| 03:00.53 | nezZario | they all have advantages here and there but so far debian is living up to it's name as the 'universal' operating system and pretty much covering all basis and doing them all well |
| 03:00.56 | navysealltblue|A | For what, nezzario? |
| 03:01.08 | koshieFinalReliz | Can I definitely remove a package from all update ? Like the kernel ? I've compiled mine for some (good :p) reason and I don't want to use an kernel for Debian repo. |
| 03:01.09 | yagoo | nezZario, it's also the mostly ported-- many architectures |
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| 03:01.19 | nezZario | navysealltblue|A i have a broad list of requirements.. |
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| 03:01.40 | th0r | koshieFinalReliz: I believe it is called pinning, and you can do it via synaptic |
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| 03:01.52 | nezZario | a broad list of customers too |
| 03:01.57 | koshieFinalReliz | th0r, it's a server without GUI |
| 03:02.05 | koshieFinalReliz | But I will googling pinning |
| 03:02.06 | qxt | why does empathy act at my default browser even when I pick iceweasel as my default with update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 03:02.19 | qxt | ie in xchat |
| 03:02.19 | nezZario | example ... netbsd I use for xen dom0s, (debian can do that, I am ready to switch here soon) |
| 03:02.25 | nezZario | or at least try |
| 03:02.42 | nezZario | freebsd I use for internet servers because of the awesome package manager (uh, aptitude kicks freebsd port's ass, and that's coming from a hardcore bsd advocate) |
| 03:02.44 | navysealltblue|A | Koshie there is a lot of info about apt pinning online |
| 03:03.10 | nezZario | openbsd I use for billing servers (debian seems secure but I am going to keep running openbsd for now until I can research more into general linux security) |
| 03:03.14 | nezZario | centos and arch, don't get me started.. |
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| 03:03.36 | qxt | is sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser broken? |
| 03:03.37 | koshieFinalReliz | navysealltblue|A, I'm googling ;) |
| 03:03.42 | LtL | qxt: in system > preferences > preferred application, set browser of choice. |
| 03:03.44 | koshieFinalReliz | (thanks) |
| 03:03.50 | qxt | LtL thx |
| 03:03.59 | LtL | qxt: de nada |
| 03:04.05 | yagoo | LtL, bye |
| 03:04.25 | navysealltblue|A | God I hate this old craptop... |
| 03:04.32 | navysealltblue|A | Nothing but problems... |
| 03:05.06 | th0r | navysealltblue|A: I love old stuff. With computers it is a choice, nothing but trouble for free, or nothing but trouble for a price |
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| 03:05.33 | somiaj | qxt: unforntally not all applications honor the debian alternatives. gnome usually does its own thing. |
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| 03:06.07 | navysealltblue|A | Oh th0r, don't get me wrong, I love it too, but this pos p3 keeps giving me grief. I blame the crappy build practices of dell 13 yrs ago. |
| 03:06.08 | LtL | navysealltblue|A: my 11 year old toshiba p4 1.7Ghz runs lenny like a champ, soon to be 'squeezed.' |
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| 03:06.23 | qxt | somiaj, oh well I got it sorted now. Thx |
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| 03:07.52 | navysealltblue|A | Ltl, my p3 700mhz, 256 mb ram, 10gb hdd was a pain to install, for some reason the cd drive doesn't like 90% of cds 90% of the time, and it doesn't support boot from usb. The hdd ate itself the other day and I am struggling again to get it up and running again |
| 03:08.22 | sary | ! install gnome |
| 03:08.22 | dpkg | To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, 'gnome-desktop-environment' for GNOME as defined by upstream, 'gnome-core' for a bit less and 'gnome-session' for the basic components actually needed to run a GNOME session. You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 03:09.15 | LtL | navysealltblue|A: dell doesn't use the best parts. It's the names on the inside that count, although dell has made halfass decent boxes. |
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| 03:11.51 | navysealltblue|A | LtL: well back in day, dells had even worse parts. Most <=p4 dells can't even handle high density ram. I get by usually, this thing is just killing me right now though... |
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| 03:13.07 | navysealltblue|A | Good laugh though, this p3 with winxp when I procured it, 5 minutes to open firefox, 5 seconds when I got deb with lxde up and running. |
| 03:13.56 | somiaj | for any large computer manafacture, they have both low end and high end boxes, that is usually what makes the difference. Problem is they are usually the lower end machines in my experience. |
| 03:14.06 | cobra-the-joker | nice to hear that |
| 03:14.53 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... did libre office arrived to STABLE ? |
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| 03:17.53 | joe6 | how do i install msttcorefonts on debian? http://codepad.org/CZOWZpYh |
| 03:17.55 | LtL | navysealltblue|A: be careful to buy a hdd that the bios will be able to utilize to the fullest, then set it up for NAS and put it on a shelf to ssh into :) |
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| 03:20.19 | navysealltblue|A | LtL: that's what my frankenputer is for... salvaged ide controller, 6 hdds, hacked case for larger psu, running gentoo as domu for xen :p all of my services run of that beautiful monstrocity |
| 03:21.48 | LtL | joe6: it's Provided by: ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 03:22.13 | joe6 | LtL, thanks. |
| 03:22.27 | LtL | joe6: you're welcome. |
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| 03:24.50 | photon | is there a way to get the current version of a software package in both the stable and test distros without having them installed? |
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| 03:26.11 | navysealltblue|A | Photon you can install packages from any of the three trees, stable testing unstable. Look up apt pinning |
| 03:27.00 | photon | oh, just to make sure I understand you correctly, that means I can install a stable Debian version, but the newest Firefox, for example? |
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| 03:27.35 | photon | and if I do that, will I still get security updates for that Firefox version? |
| 03:27.45 | navysealltblue|A | Yes, actually, in that case, look up firefox backports, they have instructions on how to configure it. |
| 03:27.54 | navysealltblue|A | On mozilla.org that is. |
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| 03:29.15 | navysealltblue|A | Apt pinning for pretty much any version, backports is the term specifically for security fixes |
| 03:29.15 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, navysealltblue|A |
| 03:29.33 | noonday | Hi everyone, I have a question about KDE libraries.. I want to use an application that uses KDE dependencies, but I want to know whether these extra libraries will load themselves into memory upon bootup. I would prefer not to load any libraries into RAM by default at startup. |
| 03:29.50 | photon | Alright. Thank you. One more thing, though. I need a newer kernel version. 6.0.2 has .32, I think, I need at least .33. Someone here told me that I can install backports for that, too. Does that mean I'll be getting security updates for the newer kernel although I'm on 6.0.2? |
| 03:29.54 | photon | navysealltblue|A: ^ |
| 03:30.11 | photon | I'm kind of new to all of this. |
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| 03:31.50 | navysealltblue|A | photon: backports are basically a way of porting newer versions with security fixes to an older version. Apt takes care of making sure new dependencies are met and you can continue to update to a newer backport as you see fit. |
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| 03:32.47 | jmarsden | photon: http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ may be worth a look |
| 03:32.59 | navysealltblue|A | Photon: When using aptitude it will propose a solution to reolve dependencies if the new version causes conflicts (a potential for a mixed system) and you can choose one of many different solutions to the conflicts. |
| 03:33.36 | navysealltblue|A | Thanks jmarsden :p I probably shoulda just pulled that up for him, huh? |
| 03:33.48 | photon | Thanks guys! :) |
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| 03:36.34 | navysealltblue|A | Man, remember back when canonical used to give out ubuntu discs? I just used a 6.04 disc to install grub so I could boot a usb drive to install squueze >.< |
| 03:38.14 | navysealltblue|A | And apparently my spelling has gone to hell. Guess its time to call it a night. Take care all. |
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| 03:46.31 | joe6 | how do i get .pcf fonts installed on debian? |
| 03:46.44 | joe6 | .ttf fonts seem to install fine with fc-cache -vf |
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| 03:46.56 | joe6 | but, with .pcf fonts, they are not recognised. |
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| 03:48.00 | zinx | defoma? |
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| 04:01.20 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 04:01.29 | man_in_shack | so i have a new laptop to install debian on |
| 04:01.48 | man_in_shack | should i go for burning a cd or setting up a pxe server? :) |
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| 04:04.23 | LtL | man_in_shack: prepare the hdd and burn cd1 .iso, boot it. |
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| 04:04.55 | chjj | anyone know why theres no wine package for wheezy? :( |
| 04:05.07 | LtL | man_in_shack: cd1 iso boot should do it all. |
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| 04:05.41 | LtL | man_in_shack: btw- get the proper architecture! |
| 04:06.00 | man_in_shack | chjj: winehq has their own packages if you want up-to-date development version packages ... |
| 04:06.13 | man_in_shack | LtL: of course |
| 04:06.35 | chjj | man_in_shack: i only saw them link to http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
| 04:06.40 | man_in_shack | i've installed quite a few debian boxen from disc before; never from netboot |
| 04:06.58 | man_in_shack | that's the one |
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| 04:07.09 | man_in_shack | you should be able to install them on wheezy |
| 04:07.13 | man_in_shack | good luck though :) |
| 04:07.18 | chjj | man_in_shack: :O |
| 04:07.18 | qmr | How can I do "mplayer <file>" and then close the terminal emulator I started from? |
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| 04:07.27 | chjj | man_in_shack: i might compile from source instead |
| 04:07.35 | chjj | man_in_shack: if i can get the build deps figured out |
| 04:07.47 | man_in_shack | chjj: ask in #winehq :) |
| 04:08.01 | LtL | qmr: run it in a 'screen'? |
| 04:08.13 | man_in_shack | LtL: that's overkill |
| 04:08.22 | man_in_shack | mplayer <file> & disown; exit |
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| 04:08.50 | chjj | man_in_shack: thanks, but im still curious, does anyone have an idea of when a wine package would be available for wheezy? |
| 04:09.01 | qmr | man_in_shack: ♥♥♥♥♥ |
| 04:09.16 | man_in_shack | qmr: that'll be $50 ;) |
| 04:09.24 | qmr | <3/ |
| 04:09.27 | qmr | </3 |
| 04:09.32 | man_in_shack | :D |
| 04:10.05 | LtL | man_in_shack: thanks for the tip, I'll send a check ;) |
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| 04:11.52 | man_in_shack | should i go for testing or stable disc when my target will end up with sid? :) |
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| 04:12.42 | Dewi | man_in_shack: stable |
| 04:13.03 | Dewi | man_in_shack: not that it matters too much since you are intent on breaking your system :) |
| 04:13.17 | man_in_shack | breaks Dewi |
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| 04:17.00 | man_in_shack | ok, now using jigdo to build a netinst disc :) |
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| 04:22.52 | man_in_shack | just got the feeling like my desk is like bender's chest cavity |
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| 04:24.16 | man_in_shack | "now all i need is a cd to burn the image to ... hey, what do you know, there's a spindle in my desk's cupboard" |
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| 04:26.06 | nezZario | lol, what? |
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| 04:26.58 | man_in_shack | :) |
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| 04:31.43 | photon | whoa, when entering "is" in Google, it recommends "is kevjumba a heterosexual bear wrestler". wtf? |
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| 04:35.06 | urlin2u | photon, do you remove the cookies, and clear your browser completely. :D |
| 04:35.38 | urlin2u | I get wikipedia |
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| 04:36.07 | qaz | I am wrestling with NetworkManager to make it show and connect to wifi. |
| 04:36.21 | man_in_shack | qaz: considered wicd? |
| 04:36.52 | man_in_shack | hmm ... what is uefi and why do i see it as a bios option? |
| 04:37.22 | qaz | man in shack: wicd? no, haven't heard of it. would I have to delete NetworkManager? |
| 04:37.37 | man_in_shack | qaz: i believe so, yes |
| 04:37.42 | man_in_shack | wicd doesn't have gnome dependencies |
| 04:38.03 | qaz | man in shack: that's good, because I like to use icewm |
| 04:38.19 | qaz | man in shack: i will google wicd |
| 04:38.27 | qaz | man in shack: thanks |
| 04:38.32 | man_in_shack | aptitude show wicd-gtk |
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| 04:42.11 | man_in_shack | oh awesome |
| 04:42.25 | man_in_shack | debian netinst has picked up the wifi in this laptop |
| 04:43.24 | ham5 | whats the name of that file in /etc/apt that you put the levels |
| 04:43.40 | Dewi | ham5: /etc/apt_preferences ? |
| 04:43.50 | Dewi | ham5: the rules for pinning.,.. |
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| 04:44.19 | ham5 | yes thank you dewi |
| 04:44.22 | Dewi | ham5: oops, I got the name wrong and also, it's a dir now not a file |
| 04:44.24 | Dewi | ham5: preferences.d |
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| 04:44.32 | Dewi | ham5: /etc/apt/preferences.d |
| 04:44.55 | ham5 | thanks again |
| 04:45.32 | urlin2u | man_in_shack, is the laptop a gpt partioning setup? |
| 04:47.18 | man_in_shack | don't think it is |
| 04:47.26 | MaXim_ | speaking of gpt |
| 04:47.32 | man_in_shack | nope |
| 04:47.44 | MaXim_ | does/when will debian installer support it |
| 04:47.56 | man_in_shack | 500GB hdd, no need for gpt :) |
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| 04:49.17 | man_in_shack | does netinstall not support wpa? |
| 04:49.26 | MaXim_ | it does |
| 04:49.38 | MaXim_ | no wpa enterprise though |
| 04:49.40 | MaXim_ | only PSK |
| 04:49.43 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 04:49.52 | man_in_shack | it's only asking me for a wep key |
| 04:50.01 | MaXim_ | odd |
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| 04:50.30 | MaXim_ | what version is this |
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| 04:51.13 | MaXim_ | oh right, only in wheezy |
| 04:51.23 | MaXim_ | you're out of luck on squeeze |
| 04:51.26 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 04:51.28 | Blue1 | man_in_shack: iirc I had to install wpa-supplicants |
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| 04:51.38 | MaXim_ | just set it up manually |
| 04:52.07 | Blue1 | yup wapsupplicant |
| 04:52.17 | Blue1 | wpasupplicant |
| 04:52.18 | Blue1 | doh |
| 04:52.19 | man_in_shack | nah, i'll go for wired connection instead |
| 04:52.46 | man_in_shack | now i need to name this thing ... |
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| 04:56.12 | man_in_shack | wheeeee purging windows 7 |
| 04:56.23 | man_in_shack | so, anyone know about efi? |
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| 04:58.54 | man_in_shack | hmmm ... reading the wikipedia article, it says it doesn't use DOS MBR |
| 04:59.07 | man_in_shack | so that would make it diffficult for me :) |
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| 05:24.33 | net_robber | rsa token |
| 05:24.47 | windparadise | apc vs xcache vs eaccelerator which one have you tested and which one will you choose? |
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| 05:43.18 | mat619 | Hi there, I need some help understanding how VNC server work in Linux environments - I have a Squeeze server box sitting in a corner with a screen on it, but most of the time it'll have to be administrated remotely. All kinds of manuals I found (http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_6.0&p=x&f=2 for example) describe how to setup a VNC only environment. |
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| 05:44.11 | mat619 | How do I get to login to the box remotely via VNC or also locally? As far as I understand those tutorials, a VNC server service is started at boot time and waits for remote login, then starts an X session for the remote user. |
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| 05:45.45 | calculon_ | I have a question about bc calculator |
| 05:46.01 | calculon_ | echo 'sqrt($a^2+$b^2)' | bc -l |
| 05:46.04 | calculon_ | it gives |
| 05:46.09 | calculon_ | (standard_in) 1: illegal character: $ |
| 05:46.20 | calculon_ | how to calculate |
| 05:46.24 | wols_ | mat619: no. you can have a vnc server run like on windows. e.g. gnome vino. or you can run vnc as your actual X servre x11vnc |
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| 05:48.37 | mat619 | wols_: Okay, what I need would more be like the windows approach I think. So to my understanding - I can install vnc4server/tightvncserver or alike, leave my normal XFCE configuration as it is, and just start the VNC-server during XFCE startup? |
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| 05:49.40 | wols_ | afaik yes. why do you need a vnc servre in the first place? this is not winodws., in debian, ssh can do anything you'd ever want :) |
| 05:49.46 | kuznetzvo | ^ |
| 05:50.01 | kuznetzvo | there are some security issues to be aware of putting vnc on a box that's going to have any kind of public facing services, too |
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| 05:50.40 | mat619 | wols_: ALMOST anything, yes - it's a home server and will double as a DVB-T video recorder, and those applications are kinda hard to control via CLI ;) |
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| 05:51.09 | wols_ | my backends don't need X |
| 05:51.13 | wols_ | *myth |
| 05:51.19 | Bushmills | mat619: you can run in- and output of X clients over ssh, no vlc needed |
| 05:52.19 | windparadise | hello, i am tying deb http://debian.mcmillan.net.nz/debian |
| 05:52.23 | Bushmills | there's also xpra for reattaching to running clients, but i'm, afraid that tool didn't make it into testing yet |
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| 05:52.31 | windparadise | and I have an error "deb command not found" |
| 05:52.32 | Bushmills | ,versions xpra |
| 05:52.33 | judd | Package xpra on i386 -- sid: 0.0.7.25+dfsg-1 |
| 05:52.34 | windparadise | what do I do? |
| 05:52.40 | windparadise | I an using debian squeeze |
| 05:54.11 | windparadise | any answer? |
| 05:54.16 | mat619 | Bushmills: I know, but VNC will be more comfortable in my situation. Two Windows boxes, one Android tablet, two Linux laptops and a Blackberry will have to remotecontrol it once in a while, and it's just easier to do with VNC then for me. |
| 05:54.47 | kuznetzvo | wind: I'm sorry. I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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| 05:55.21 | mat619 | wols_: backends don't, yeah, but the "monitor" on the machine will be the TV, so I'm quite sure I'll need X at some point ;) |
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| 05:57.20 | jmarsden | windparadise: deb is not a command. That line might be something to add to /etc/apt/sources.list perhaps??? |
| 05:57.25 | mat619 | wols_: but my earlier described understanding of how vnc-server and DE interact was correct, was it? I'm still not sure if I got this right, since absolutely no tutorial I found described that approach, they all were aimed at completely headless machines. |
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| 05:57.50 | zztr | ?flash |
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| 05:57.54 | windparadise | k |
| 05:58.10 | zztr | hmm is there a question answering chatbot? |
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| 06:00.02 | wols_ | !teel zztr about msg the bot |
| 06:01.18 | sauvin | I think the word is "tell". |
| 06:01.23 | wols_ | mat619: if you want to do it via vnc and locally and with th same account/session, you need to start the vnc server as an x client, not a x server |
| 06:01.43 | Miklos | what to do when a usb wifi (rt2870) loads the driver but doesnt show in ifconfig -a |
| 06:01.43 | Miklos | http://paste2.org/p/1658763 |
| 06:01.54 | zztr | !tell zztr about msg the bot |
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| 06:02.33 | wols_ | Miklos: missing firmware? |
| 06:02.38 | wols_ | !rt2870 |
| 06:02.38 | dpkg | rt2870sta is the vendor driver for Ralink 802.11n/g USB (RT2070, RT2770, RT2870, RT3070, RT3071, RT3072) wireless LAN devices, included as a staging driver (amd64, i386 only) in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images. Firmware is required, ask me about <ralink firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta . Disabled in Debian kernel images post-Squeeze and removed at Linux 3.0, ask me about <rt2800usb>. |
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| 06:03.40 | Miklos | I downloaded the source from ralink and copied the firmware into /lib/firmware |
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| 06:04.01 | Miklos | also I blacklisted the rt2x00* and rt2800* stuff |
| 06:04.14 | Miklos | !ralink firmware |
| 06:04.14 | dpkg | Firmware from userspace is required by the <rt61pci>, <rt73usb>, <rt2860sta>, <rt2870sta>, <rt2800pci> and <rt2800usb> drivers. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-ralink package to provide. |
| 06:04.57 | Miklos | I also compiled the ralink source and copied the module to the right place |
| 06:05.08 | Miklos | wols_ how do I check if the firmware is loaded |
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| 06:06.50 | wols_ | I wouldn't know |
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| 06:07.32 | kuznetzvo | another way to look at it would be to compare your own methods to these instructions to find deviations: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta |
| 06:07.56 | mat619 | wols_: okay, so I can't use vnc4server or tightvncserver, because those are not designed to work as a X client, but something like x11vnc should do? |
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| 06:09.07 | Miklos | I tried that before going to the ralink source kuznetzvo :( |
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| 06:11.41 | kuznetzvo | miklos: modprobe -l rt2870, can you confirm the module appears loaded and happy? |
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| 06:13.36 | Miklos | labadmin@mm3:~$ sudo modprobe -l rt2870sta |
| 06:13.36 | Miklos | kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2870sta.ko |
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| 06:13.43 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 06:14.06 | man_in_shack | is there a way to get gdm3 to not infinitely try to start when X fails to load? |
| 06:14.22 | kuznetzvo | yes but i don't remember off the top of my head |
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| 06:18.20 | joe6 | opentype font files do not work with fc-cache -fv? they are not being recognised? |
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| 06:18.42 | joe6 | do I need a new fc-cache? or, is it something else? |
| 06:19.05 | man_in_shack | kuznetzvo: are you able to find out? |
| 06:20.12 | kuznetzvo | milkos, please paste contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file and indicate if you're using network manager or wicd, etc. link pastebin and i will continue trying to help you |
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| 06:20.35 | kuznetzvo | man_in_shack, i see it's easy to configure gdm not to reuse existing X sessions in case of crash but haven't found exactly what you are looking for yet |
| 06:21.22 | man_in_shack | ok |
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| 06:22.01 | kuznetzvo | i'm sorry i'm kind of a newb with linux. spent most of my life up to this point as a windows guy |
| 06:22.04 | Miklos | http://paste2.org/p/1658793 |
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| 06:23.28 | kuznetzvo | is it your intention to use /etc/network/interfaces to manage the connections of this machine, or are you going to be using network manager? |
| 06:23.51 | man_in_shack | prefers wicd to network manager |
| 06:24.13 | kuznetzvo | if you're gonna use network manager, comment out those lines in interfaces then you might need to try [su] dpkg-reconfigure network-manager |
| 06:24.14 | Blue1 | raises his hand for wicd also |
| 06:24.16 | Miklos | yes console only |
| 06:24.28 | kuznetzvo | ignore my previous statement with bad timing then :> |
| 06:24.28 | Miklos | headless machine |
| 06:24.38 | man_in_shack | wicd-cli it is then |
| 06:24.41 | man_in_shack | or wicd-curses |
| 06:24.47 | Miklos | okay will try that |
| 06:25.21 | man_in_shack | network manager is a pita on cli |
| 06:26.37 | kuznetzvo | jsut to make sure my facts are straight, this is a WIRELESS interface, ja? |
| 06:27.00 | kuznetzvo | because slightly further down in this page, it is mentioned to be very particular about configuring your interfaces file http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK |
| 06:27.19 | Miklos | yes :) |
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| 06:27.34 | yagoo | !networkmanager |
| 06:27.34 | dpkg | NetworkManager is a network management framework daemon. See /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian for setup instructions and ask me about <nm squeeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ #nm on irc.freenode.net. See also <nmcli>, <wireless connection managers>. |
| 06:27.37 | kuznetzvo | ok at least i remembered that properly |
| 06:27.49 | man_in_shack | !wicd |
| 06:27.49 | dpkg | [wicd] Wireless Interface Connection Daemon, a wired and <wireless connection manager>. A backported package is available for Lenny, ask me about <bdo>. See also <netdev>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wicd http://wicd.sf.net/ #wicd on irc.freenode.net. |
| 06:28.15 | kuznetzvo | i mean if you're never going to change the ip/routing on the interface or ever "require" dhcp, you don't need anything except for a properly configured interfaces (give or take a supplicant, if needed) |
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| 06:28.21 | man_in_shack | ok, now i can at least switch to init 1 easily |
| 06:29.00 | kuznetzvo | for the situations i've had to use wireless, it was always on a system that needed a gui :( |
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| 06:29.43 | kuznetzvo | pardon me for some moments now, i must go to toilet |
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| 06:31.16 | man_in_shack | w00t |
| 06:31.30 | man_in_shack | all i needed was xorg-server-video-ati |
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| 06:36.28 | kuznetzvo | man_in_shack, it's a wonderful feeling isn't it :) |
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| 06:38.08 | windparadise | hello, pls is it good to install APC and eAccelerator side by side without none of them causing any troubble ? |
| 06:38.17 | kuznetzvo | huh? |
| 06:38.38 | kuznetzvo | rofl |
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| 06:39.36 | man_in_shack | wheee wicd-gtk + wifi + wpa configured :) |
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| 06:40.00 | kuznetzvo | this is going to look like a silly question.. but you *did* install wireless-tools, yes? |
| 06:40.07 | kuznetzvo | [sorry, i have to ask] |
| 06:40.44 | man_in_shack | yeah |
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| 06:42.22 | kuznetzvo | errr sorry that aws meant for miklos |
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| 06:42.34 | man_in_shack | ah ok :) |
| 06:42.49 | man_in_shack | no wonder my approx isn't working when i use the full domain name |
| 06:43.18 | man_in_shack | modem isn't forwarding that port since the last power surge |
| 06:43.40 | kuznetzvo | hey join hardware so i can talk to you about that |
| 06:43.47 | kuznetzvo | without being offtopic here :) or debian-optic |
| 06:43.49 | man_in_shack | about what? |
| 06:43.53 | kuznetzvo | errrr #debian-offtopic |
| 06:44.08 | kuznetzvo | if you meant cable modem when you said modem. i'm kind of an expert. |
| 06:44.16 | man_in_shack | adsl |
| 06:44.20 | kuznetzvo | ah |
| 06:44.32 | man_in_shack | and it's just a matter of putting the port back in the NAT table |
| 06:44.49 | kuznetzvo | when my clients always had weird issues like that and couldn't get it replaced, i'd first flash firmware if available (after taking a config dump) then reconfigure config by hand |
| 06:44.58 | kuznetzvo | though teclos tend not to make that easy |
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| 06:45.42 | kuznetzvo | at one point i had a script loaded to tftp the "known good" config to the gateway at close of business every day Lol |
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| 06:49.53 | man_in_shack | oops, accidentally caused the modem to d/c :P |
| 06:50.22 | kuznetzvo | i am curious now |
| 06:50.31 | kuznetzvo | please join #debian-offtopic so we can chat there :) |
| 06:50.46 | kuznetzvo | and tell me the make and model of your modem while we're at it |
| 06:50.50 | man_in_shack | yeah, i don't need to be here any more :) |
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| 07:03.44 | miek|netbuk | hi.. having a bit of an issue here. i just got this asus eee pc netbook last night (1005PEG) and set up Squeeze on here. everything is working great, including 3G mobile broadband which i'm on now, except the sound does not work. |
| 07:04.02 | windparadise | hello, pls any answer fro my posted question ? |
| 07:04.03 | miek|netbuk | according to everything i can see, it sees the sound card and is using it.. it just doesnt output any sound |
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| 07:04.37 | windparadise | linux |
| 07:04.40 | miek|netbuk | i am fairly experienced with linux, i've used it alongside windows since debian sarge came out but i can't figure this one out. |
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| 07:05.27 | kuznetzvo | miek, i had similar issue |
| 07:05.45 | kuznetzvo | miek, you have to find the right options for configuring alsa, and there is plenty of good information on internet |
| 07:05.49 | miek|netbuk | oops this nick i use on another server. |
| 07:05.52 | kuznetzvo | i'm really really drunk so that's all i can remember :( |
| 07:05.55 | windparadise | hello, pls can anyone tell if I can install, eaccelerator, apc, memcache, memcached to my apache webserver without any problem of conflict ? |
| 07:05.56 | king_crim | heh |
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| 07:06.13 | king_crim | i'll search around a bit. |
| 07:06.14 | kuznetzvo | wind: just try it and if you get an error then you know |
| 07:08.17 | king_crim | if there is one thing that i've found windows always does better it's hassle-free sound. there are too many different standards in linux. ALSA, OSS, etc. although it has been getting much better. |
| 07:09.31 | MaXim_ | it's about as bad as i remember it 10 years ago |
| 07:10.03 | MaXim_ | alsa should be replaced |
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| 07:11.00 | king_crim | it's details like this that really make the average user favor windows. |
| 07:11.32 | king_crim | well, that and familiarity. when a person has trouble learning to use a web browser, the last thing they is to learn a whole new OS. :) |
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| 07:20.36 | yagoo | king_crim, LOL |
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| 07:23.02 | kuznetzvo | wind, be sure to look at your /usr/share/docs ( or similar path ) for good alsa documentation. it's the resource that finally helped me fix my issue |
| 07:23.02 | kuznetzvo | brb |
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| 07:27.37 | MrMind | hi, I'm running LAMP on Debian in Virtualbox and I need to accses the website on the host machine, how can I do this? |
| 07:27.47 | MrMind | I know it's possible if a choose Bridge Adapter and then just connect to the local ip it's get but I need to run NAT |
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| 07:31.54 | MaXim_ | perhaps you can run a vpn tunnel |
| 07:32.05 | MaXim_ | from the guest to a network machine |
| 07:32.38 | MaXim_ | hmm wait that wouldn't work hehe |
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| 07:34.16 | MrMind_ | MaXim_: hmm, it had been god if I don't need internet access on any of the machines… |
| 07:34.32 | MrMind_ | if that is possible |
| 07:35.17 | petern_ | did you set up the port forwarding in virtualbox? |
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| 07:36.17 | MrMind_ | petern_: hmm, port forwaring in virtualbox, whats that? |
| 07:36.19 | petern_ | iirc that works from the host too, because the nat/portforwarding is internal to virtualbox. i think. |
| 07:36.33 | petern_ | it's... hidden away somewhere. i found it once :) |
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| 07:36.45 | petern_ | might be on the network adapter configuration |
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| 07:38.45 | MrMind_ | petern_: I will look, thx =) |
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| 07:56.33 | felidae | anyone running ossec on their debian servers? |
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| 08:19.05 | thewanderer1 | where does GDM store the information about what desktop session was used last for a given user? |
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| 08:20.03 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 08:20.21 | HardDisk_WP | i'm trying to use rsync to sync a couple specific directories |
| 08:21.03 | HardDisk_WP | so i'm running rsync -vv -a -h --include=/tmp/list /srcdir /targetdir |
| 08:21.05 | HardDisk_WP | the list is + /dir_1\n+ /dir_2\n- /* |
| 08:21.07 | HardDisk_WP | but despite the last line, rsync syncs every directory in src to target |
| 08:21.09 | HardDisk_WP | why? |
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| 08:36.03 | felidae | what is the aptitude command to search for packages that contain the string 'ossec', whether installed on my machine or not |
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| 08:36.13 | felidae | the man page isn't very claer |
| 08:36.15 | felidae | *clear |
| 08:37.04 | thewanderer1 | hmm... aptitude search ossec ? |
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| 08:40.14 | felidae | hm |
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| 08:55.24 | windparadise | hello, pls how do I add a package to debian repo? thhe following command is not working: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian squeeze main |
| 08:55.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | !wayttd |
| 08:55.46 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do? |
| 08:55.58 | _stefanos_ | is anyone using texinfo here people? |
| 08:57.11 | windparadise | Kamping_Kaiser: I am trying to install libmemcached |
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| 08:57.34 | windparadise | required to install pecl install memcached |
| 08:58.04 | ujjain | Any way to make ctrl_c/v copy-paste iunstead of ctrl_shift-c/v? It's annoying since Firefox goes crazy with ctrl+shift=c/v |
| 08:59.08 | MaXim_ | use shift insert? |
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| 09:00.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | windparadise: memcached is in debian. |
| 09:00.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | what problem are ou having installing it? |
| 09:00.36 | windparadise | oh, mine is a fresh installation |
| 09:00.44 | windparadise | on a vps |
| 09:00.45 | bzed | windparadise: apt-get install php5-memcached |
| 09:00.51 | windparadise | ok |
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| 09:01.59 | windparadise | ah, it's already there |
| 09:02.31 | ujjain | MaXim_: and copy? |
| 09:03.00 | niman | why i see this err : Authentication failure INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast : disable for 5 minutes |
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| 09:11.12 | windparadise | hello, pls how do I enable apache mod_headers ? |
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| 09:21.01 | niman | why i see this err : Authentication failure INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast : disable for 5 minutes |
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| 09:29.42 | simonlnu | check your syslog niman |
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| 09:32.12 | Bushmills | windparadise: a2enmod headers |
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| 09:32.25 | windparadise | ok, thx |
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| 09:34.30 | MrMind | hi, I have a LAMP server on Debian in Virtualbox and I wonder if there is any way for me to connect to the Debian server on my host machine without internet access… If I use "Bridge Adapter" in Virtualbox can connect to the server with the servers local ip, but when I'm not connected to any network it is impossible to connect to the server, any ideas? |
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| 09:36.59 | sep | MrMind, even with bridge i'd assume you should get access if you have a static ip on your vm and on the bridge |
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| 09:37.37 | petern_ | did you not find the portforwarding stuff, or did it not work? |
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| 09:39.07 | MrMind | petern_: oh, there you are, I didn't understand exactly what you mean… |
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| 09:40.07 | petern_ | you were running NAT |
| 09:40.20 | petern_ | so the simplest way is to set up port forwarding |
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| 09:40.34 | petern_ | which is in the machine settings, under networking |
| 09:41.00 | petern_ | under advanced |
| 09:41.24 | MrMind | petern_: okey, I will take a look, thx! |
| 09:43.06 | MrMind | petern_: I find it! but what should i forward? port 80? |
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| 09:43.17 | petern_ | whatever you need to forward :S |
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| 09:43.43 | MrMind | petern_: hehe, yep off, I will try it |
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| 09:54.14 | windparadise | warning: file_put_contents(cache/.htaccess): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/sites/all/modules/boost/boost.module |
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| 09:54.29 | windparadise | how od i add a usergroup to the cache folder |
| 09:54.33 | windparadise | so he can create files |
| 09:54.34 | windparadise | ? |
| 09:54.39 | windparadise | that from the web site |
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| 09:59.23 | tdn | I frequently write letters and documents on multiple languages. Primarily English and Danish. Sometimes I use two languages in the same document. Is there a way to merge two language's dictionaries for spellchecking? I guess this would mean I would make my own custom dict. But to do so, I need to know where the installed dicts are located on the system. |
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| 09:59.59 | sep | tdn, never knew vim supported that |
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| 10:01.32 | windparadise | any answer please |
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| 10:02.06 | sep | tdn, dpkg -L (iamerican|wamerican) to get the list of filenames and paths in a packages |
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| 10:02.16 | tdn | sep, thanks. |
| 10:02.48 | sep | tdn, but normaly in more advanced editors id image that you mark the paragrapths and set them to whatever language they are in |
| 10:03.55 | sep | windparadise, i'd assume your webserver runs as www-data ? so you need to chmod g+w that directory, and also chgrp www-data to give the www-data group write access. |
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| 10:04.25 | windparadise | ok |
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| 10:05.13 | sep | personaly i also use directorymatch to disable php, and server all script files as plain text, to avoid the problems of someone uploading scripts and running them from a cache/temp area |
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| 10:05.46 | sep | anywhere www-data can write is a huge security hole waiting to happen |
| 10:06.04 | bassliner | hello - i have a box that creates a ppp0 connection via adsl, and i want to update a dyndns host. when manually running that script, it executes fine. however, when running from /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ the default route is not set yet, and the script will not be able to contact the update server. shouldn't a) the connection be completely up at this point and b) the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ be executed non-parallel? |
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| 10:20.27 | wald0 | maybe someones think that this is a stupid question, but i really wonder, why the debian installer doesn't include reiserfs (v3) as option ? |
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| 10:25.15 | Bushmills | wald0: probably because reiserfs is deprecated, and by offering support not to create encouragement to use it. |
| 10:25.53 | Dewi | wald0: "You can load reiserfs modules and add reiserfs support to partman on Squeeze setup via expert mode (Choose components to load from CD)." |
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| 10:45.53 | Qtronix | Hi! I've been searching for a simple, yet powerful audio player for Linux that includes intelligent/advanced crossfading based on dB levels. I haven't found one yet, and it pisses me off! Are there really NO such player for Linux? o_O |
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| 10:46.18 | SPF | hmm, I'm trying to start a remote tcpdump with ssh user@host tcpdump, saving the pid with PID=$!. But when I kill it the tcpdump PID is still active on the remote host |
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| 10:52.51 | thewanderer1 | any idea where GDM stores the last session type that a user ran? for example, when thewanderer chooses KDE, it sticks and it chosen by default the next time. |
| 10:53.07 | thewanderer1 | s/it chosen/it is chosen/ |
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| 10:56.21 | ompaul | Qtronix: you have the interest, and tools, please feel free to scratch that itch. (amarok with a bit of work might be a good place to start from, it's existing cross fade is not bad) |
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| 10:59.21 | ompaul | thewanderer1: eh, please check this doc http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en search for word "post" |
| 11:00.03 | ompaul | SPF: you're confusing me, how are you saving the pid or what are you doing, very unsure of your operating conditions. |
| 11:00.39 | thewanderer1 | aaahaaa! .dmrc! thanks |
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| 11:01.03 | dym | Hey - I need a script that continuously reads a file and looks for certain entries to react on - how would i form a script to that? |
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| 11:02.59 | thewanderer1 | dym: will the file be appended to, or overwritten completely? |
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| 11:03.15 | dym | thewanderer1: appended |
| 11:04.06 | thewanderer1 | dym: then maybe you should pipe the input of "tail -f" into your script and have it read lines in an infinite loop |
| 11:04.56 | dym | thewanderer1: do i pipe the output before the loop, or within? |
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| 11:05.23 | thewanderer1 | dym: you pipe the output from outside of the script... tail -f /watched/file | my-script.sh |
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| 11:06.01 | dym | oh |
| 11:06.07 | dym | and then read inside the loop? |
| 11:06.17 | dym | within my-script.sh |
| 11:06.24 | thewanderer1 | sure... read should block till it gets a line |
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| 11:07.21 | dym | thewanderer1: how do i catch the output within the script? wont be $1 right? |
| 11:07.34 | thewanderer1 | dym: `help read` in bash |
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| 11:19.33 | SPF | ompaul: I save the pid in a variable. ssh user@host tcpdump;PID=$!;read A;kill $PID |
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| 11:22.08 | b52 | hey fellas, where does slapd stores its data files? |
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| 11:28.06 | ompaul | SPF: lets look at the steps here you log in run a program the pid can't be saved until the tcpdump is saved so something here is very wrong |
| 11:29.23 | SPF | ompaul: if I use tail instead of tcpdump, it will work. tail will be killed when the ssh pid is killed |
| 11:30.19 | ompaul | tail or tail -f |
| 11:30.40 | ompaul | think about what you want to happen you want a specific amount of work to be done |
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| 11:30.49 | ompaul | then you want to kill it off |
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| 11:31.46 | ompaul | how does tcpdump know to stop dumping? |
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| 11:31.56 | ompaul | how does it know which interface to listen on |
| 11:32.55 | ompaul | SPF: the exercise seems pointless at this point. Can you explain what you want to know about the box you are connecting to? |
| 11:33.45 | SPF | ompaul: sorry if my command was not complete -> ssh pl-1 "tcpdump -i bond1.102 -s0 -w /tmp/tcpdump_port_80_pl-1.pcap port 80" |
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| 11:34.04 | Bushmills | dym: check out logtail |
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| 11:34.35 | Bushmills | no need to continuously monitor - you can logtail just the new additions to the file |
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| 11:35.44 | ompaul | SPF: and you have a snaplength of 0 |
| 11:35.52 | ompaul | slowly shudders |
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| 11:37.23 | Bushmills | there's an alternative to logtail which name i have forgotten |
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| 11:38.26 | SPF | ompaul: that is not the point, tcpdump does it's work. But I have to manually kill it, that's my problem |
| 11:39.14 | SPF | why does tcpdump keep running when I close the ssh? |
| 11:39.17 | ompaul | SPF: the s0 is the default operation, so does not need to be stated, |
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| 11:40.49 | ompaul | SPF: aiui the command (tcpdump) is run on a pseudo terminal on the remote box, it has no dependency on the ssh session. |
| 11:40.57 | ompaul | so if ssh dies it does not |
| 11:41.06 | ompaul | the tail command stops running |
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| 11:41.22 | ompaul | therefore the chain collapses anyway |
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| 11:42.59 | SPF | ompaul: is it possible to get the remote tcpdump PID? |
| 11:43.31 | ompaul | SPF: is there anything wrong with killall tcpdump |
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| 11:44.09 | SPF | ompaul: there is a chance that there's another tcpdump running |
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| 11:44.58 | Bushmills | tcpdump has a -c option, to terminate after n packets |
| 11:44.59 | ompaul | SPF: use etherreal |
| 11:45.07 | ompaul | doh |
| 11:45.20 | ompaul | -c count |
| 11:45.41 | SPF | but you never know how many packets you expect |
| 11:45.56 | ompaul | SPF: you want to build the impossible problem to solve? |
| 11:46.40 | SPF | no, I'm just exploring the possibilities |
| 11:47.04 | ompaul | SPF: best answer either leave it running, or capture more than you want. |
| 11:47.15 | ompaul | SPF: and refine as you learn more about what you want to know |
| 11:47.28 | ompaul | because right now it feels like a fishing exercise |
| 11:50.21 | SPF | I was just searching for the most appropriate way to implement something like this. I guess killall is the only solution that fits best. Thanks ompaul |
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| 11:51.23 | Bushmills | pkill |
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| 11:52.03 | ompaul | I best sleep :-) |
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| 11:56.42 | Sami345 | Okay, so I think I am going to install Debian unstable, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/, but why there are so many different iso's to choose from |
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| 11:56.49 | Sami345 | which one I should download |
| 11:57.16 | Sami345 | Or should I download all of them? Are you serious? |
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| 11:57.58 | ompaul | Sami345: the one that suits you best. |
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| 11:58.13 | ompaul | given you know your requirements you know what you want |
| 11:58.27 | jiltdil | Is there any official guide for debian to learn? |
| 11:58.29 | Sami345 | Well I am a programmer so I mostly want some programming tools |
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| 11:59.39 | ompaul | sees a mismatch between Sami345's stated objective, running SID, and having a job as a programmer. |
| 12:00.08 | Sami345 | well I want the newest possible packages :( |
| 12:00.15 | ompaul | forms a team for the analysis in #debian-offtopic |
| 12:00.25 | Sami345 | I want like boost 1.4.6 |
| 12:00.47 | wols | Sami345: you are a programmer. you are supposed to know how to get this for your work |
| 12:00.57 | wols | jiltdil: /msg dpkg ig /msg dpkg reference |
| 12:01.04 | Sami345 | wols, well I am pretty new to linuxes |
| 12:01.10 | jiltdil | wols:thanks |
| 12:01.30 | jiltdil | wols: is the book is almost same as rutebook in ubuntu |
| 12:01.34 | wols | Sami345: that has nothing to do with linuxes but programming. how to use libraries is elementary for programmers. it isn't any different in e.g. windows |
| 12:01.59 | Sami345 | Of course I could just compile library from source code |
| 12:02.15 | Sami345 | but it would be nice if I could just download them from reposity |
| 12:02.57 | jelly | ,versions libboost1.46-dev |
| 12:02.59 | judd | Package libboost1.46-dev on i386 -- sid: 1.46.1-7; wheezy: 1.46.1-7 |
| 12:03.02 | wols | Sami345: what eles would you do? if you use the sid version, someone else dictates what tools you use and how. you wouldn't ever know where the brokennes is from: your code or the debian one |
| 12:03.27 | wols | and if you don't need that amount of control over your program and libraries, you don't need to run sid either |
| 12:03.48 | wols | in fact you'd want a dependable, baseline library to use. same for the compiler. |
| 12:04.56 | Sami345 | Well most boost libraries are header only, so there is not really a need for depenting |
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| 12:05.26 | wols | most != all. boost depends heavily on your C++ compiler infrastructure. you don't want to mix that... |
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| 12:06.03 | Sami345 | And can't you include .so -files with your program like you can include .dll -files in Windows? |
| 12:06.24 | wols | of course you can. why wouldn't you? |
| 12:06.49 | Sami345 | So there is no need for dependencies |
| 12:07.25 | wols | if you use dpkg to install as you intend, there are dependencies. there always are |
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| 12:31.31 | Aldus | hi. On my debian server I use public keys to access git repositories. But every time I start a new ssh session I need to do ssh-agent , copy-paste the output, then ssh-add (my public key). Isn't there a way to just do this once? |
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| 12:33.49 | jelly | Aldus: if you trust the remote machines and their admins, you can set up ssh agent forwarding |
| 12:34.11 | jelly | instead of running a separate agent on each remote machine |
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| 12:44.44 | laurus | I seem to have found a bug in Gajim, the XMPP client, but I am running Debian testing, so I cannot tell if it is a GStreamer bug or a Gajim bug. |
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| 12:45.26 | PhoenixSTF | hello, I want to clone my debian 6 system hdd to another bigger hdd so i can change them, I know i should use the dd command, but is there anything i should change? like fstab or something and will the size of the other hdd will be full or will be just the size of the prior? |
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| 12:46.33 | wols | if you use dd the filesystem will be the exact same size. maybe look at things like clonezilla? |
| 12:46.58 | thewanderer1 | well, you can expand filesystems |
| 12:47.29 | wols | of course, but why not let it work all automatically instead of error prone manual solutions? |
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| 12:48.28 | PhoenixSTF | wols so if i dd a 120 gb hdd to a 320, the partition will be 120 and problably i will have issues with fstab UUID? |
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| 12:48.47 | jargon- | does anyone happen to use apcupsd with rsyslog and can explain to me how they got the logging going? |
| 12:48.57 | wols | the partition will be 320GB. it's just that the filesystem inside the partition will only be 120GB |
| 12:48.59 | thewanderer1 | PhoenixSTF: if you dd the whole filesystem, the UUID stays the same since it's an attribute of the filesystem, encoded in itself |
| 12:49.05 | Greg10 | Hi, |
| 12:49.06 | Greg10 | I'm having what seems like a fairly common openssh problem which i have found no solution for elsewhere on the internet. |
| 12:49.06 | Greg10 | Trying to login via ssh as an user fails with the following writte to auth.log: 'fatal: Couldn't obtain random bytes (error 604389476)'. |
| 12:49.06 | Greg10 | Logging in as root works perfectly fine, though (the only difference being (AFAICS), that common users are authenticated via ldap while root is authenticated from /etc/shadow). |
| 12:49.06 | Greg10 | Any Ideas how to fix this? |
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| 12:49.51 | wols | Greg10: care to tell us which debian you run? |
| 12:50.06 | Greg10 | wols: That would be wheezy. |
| 12:50.17 | PhoenixSTF | thewanderer1, oh ok i get it |
| 12:50.22 | thewanderer1 | PhoenixSTF: if you dd the whole disk (along with the MBR), partitions will stay exactly the same size - you'll have to create them manually using fdisk if you want to have them bigger |
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| 12:50.37 | Greg10 | (i386 on an i586 machine) |
| 12:50.53 | PhoenixSTF | thewanderer1, but if i use clonezilla is the same thing right' |
| 12:50.55 | PhoenixSTF | ?? |
| 12:51.11 | wols | Greg10: it sounds like a /dev/random problem maybe. but I'm guessing |
| 12:51.15 | thewanderer1 | PhoenixSTF: I don't know what clonezilla really does under the hood, it's automagical... :P |
| 12:51.46 | PhoenixSTF | wols, if i do it with clonezilla, i will have to expand my FS anyways right? |
| 12:51.54 | PhoenixSTF | thewanderer1, thanks m8 |
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| 12:52.22 | wols | PhoenixSTF: no |
| 12:52.35 | PhoenixSTF | thewanderer1, so if I wanted to do dd i do to sda1 then expand the FS... correct? |
| 12:53.09 | thewanderer1 | PhoenixSTF: something like that, yes |
| 12:53.23 | Greg10 | /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail is at 159 (which i guess is low?), can i manually provide more for testing purposes (keyboard input maybe)? |
| 12:53.28 | thewanderer1 | (careful with the sda/sda1 differences) |
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| 12:53.33 | PhoenixSTF | wols, clonezilla is going to copy the hdd, its partitions and its contents |
| 12:54.00 | PhoenixSTF | thewanderer1, i know ;) dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 |
| 12:54.06 | wols | PhoenixSTF: why don't you check their website instead? |
| 12:54.21 | PhoenixSTF | wols, ok m8 thanks |
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| 12:54.36 | thewanderer1 | Greg10: try that, yes... although I don't see why anything would be using /dev/random, except when generating keys |
| 12:55.02 | wols | thewanderer1: for establishing a session securely? |
| 12:55.36 | thewanderer1 | wouldn't urandom be sufficient for that? also, the network I/O should provide enough entropy for SSH O.o |
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| 12:56.27 | thewanderer1 | wouldn't urandom be sufficient for that? also, the network I/O should provide enough entropy for SSH O.o |
| 12:56.36 | thewanderer1 | oops. sorry about that |
| 12:56.52 | wols | no openbsd developer would use urandom willingly |
| 12:57.06 | Greg10 | network I/O doesn't seem to increase /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail. I too think urandom should be sufficient :-S |
| 12:58.01 | thewanderer1 | hmm, are you perhaps using SSL with the LDAP auth? maybe it sucks in additional bytes |
| 12:58.59 | Greg10 | yes i am, but pretty much the same setup works fine on my main archlinux-running server |
| 12:59.23 | thewanderer1 | maybe your Arch uses urandom and makes OpenBSD folks shake their heads :P |
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| 12:59.34 | Greg10 | (that one actually has 3351 bytes of entropy at his disposal right now) |
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| 13:03.09 | wols | Greg10: can you for debugging purpose make normal users use /etc/shadow again for a bit? |
| 13:03.33 | Greg10 | i shall add a test user and try a login; please give me a minute |
| 13:06.16 | Greg10 | wols: even when completly disabling ldap in all of pam I keep getting the error :-( |
| 13:06.37 | trnzmeta | nite all |
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| 13:07.01 | Greg10 | Oh, I'll have to leave for a bit i'll be back in about an hour |
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| 13:33.30 | egoga | Why is it that no one here ever answers any questions? |
| 13:33.33 | egoga | You have to go: |
| 13:33.42 | egoga | I mean in ancient times the Egyptians used hard muscle-demanding labor to create large pyramids... and stone age people, the neanderthals, needed to burn 5000-6000 calories a day to survive |
| 13:33.46 | egoga | Police don't really "contribute" and product to society, but it's always good pay and it's sort of needed |
| 13:33.49 | egoga | But now people at Amazon use fork lifts, or skyscraper builders use heavy machinery |
| 13:33.52 | egoga | heavy machinery by companies like Hitachi or Kabuto or C.A.T. or whatever requires some object movement by people to make but not that of bodybuilders |
| 13:33.55 | egoga | But now all weight lifting is good for is police, military, or football/sports players |
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| 13:33.58 | egoga | Military is a waste of time and money |
| 13:34.00 | egoga | And football players are like playing video games only in real life |
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| 13:34.03 | egoga | Throwing a ball around doesn't help other people no matter how much someone is paid |
| 13:34.06 | egoga | Police are mostly worthless |
| 13:34.08 | egoga | Football is like a virus to the world |
| 13:34.11 | egoga | What if I throw your balls around? |
| 13:34.13 | egoga | Police don't deter crime |
| 13:34.16 | egoga | They just mop up and catch the crooks |
| 13:34.18 | egoga | Sometimes |
| 13:34.21 | egoga | I look at the future and think: Computers will be obsolete because brain implants will replace them |
| 13:34.24 | egoga | Being in shape and having the brain of a computer would mean sitting down would be wasting time. |
| 13:34.27 | egoga | But for now, in humanity's evolution, sitting down at a computer or making automated machinery is more productive than bodybuilding |
| 13:34.30 | egoga | Do you think in the future body building will be more profitable than sitting at a computer or at a desk? |
| 13:34.33 | egoga | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.40 | mark76 | If only Quod Libet had a play CDs plug in :( |
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| 13:35.19 | hroi | I want to make a user a member of a particular group |
| 13:35.30 | egoga | The plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly |
| 13:35.30 | hroi | I tried useradd -G mygroup myuser |
| 13:35.33 | egoga | The molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth. Then some kid got stung... |
| 13:35.34 | wols | !ops please show egoga the door |
| 13:35.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: wols complains about: please show egoga the door |
| 13:35.36 | egoga | turned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest |
| 13:35.38 | egoga | The nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee |
| 13:35.38 | hroi | but that command doesnt like that |
| 13:35.41 | egoga | it really hurts when it comes from bird shit |
| 13:35.41 | thewanderer1 | hroi: adduser username groupname |
| 13:35.44 | egoga | You fug ug fagheads. |
| 13:35.46 | egoga | Wear your baseball hat backwards with an ass on the back and we'll call you asshat |
| 13:35.56 | Dulak | hroi: adduser user group |
| 13:36.29 | thewanderer1 | hroi: also, I think usermod -G takes +group or -group for adding to a group/removing from a group... not sure |
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| 13:40.58 | iderik | I wish to learn how to update a software with apt-get or dpkg, for example Eclipse IDE. Could anyone help me, please? |
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| 13:45.48 | jbee | hi folks, medium f*up during aptitude/dpkg run. now trying dpkg --configure -a, but i get "dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0001' near line 0: newline in field name `#padding'" what do i do? |
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| 13:47.04 | thewanderer1 | jbee: see what the file has inside, figure out what it should do and fix it? |
| 13:47.42 | jbee | thewanderer1: it consists of 512 lines saying "#padding" |
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| 13:48.23 | hroi | thanks |
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| 13:49.48 | jbee | ok, deleting it seems to fix this.. |
| 13:49.57 | thewanderer1 | jbee: what release is that? O.o |
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| 13:50.19 | jbee | thewanderer1: squeeze |
| 13:50.43 | lxsameer | i'm in sid, and i can't run nvidia driver on xorg abi 11 , what can i do ? |
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| 13:54.59 | wols | lxsameer: read more bugreports, run less sid |
| 13:55.09 | jvv | hi, does debian has some provisioning system ? |
| 13:55.23 | lxsameer | wols: ;) |
| 13:55.30 | bzed | jvv: preseeding in the installer or look into FAI |
| 13:56.01 | bzed | jvv: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed http://fai-project.org/ |
| 13:56.45 | jvv | bzed: ok, thanks... i will read that and come back when some questions arise ;] |
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| 14:02.08 | johndoe | any ideas why mplayer is able to play divx videos, but not vlc player? |
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| 14:03.50 | johndoe | maybe i should ask that in #vlc |
| 14:04.14 | AquaL1te | have you tried multiple videos? |
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| 14:06.14 | johndoe | AquaL1te: yup. mplayer can play them, but cant seek. vlc doesnt show video (only audio) but can seek. weird |
| 14:06.36 | johndoe | i believe i have all the codec packages installed |
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| 14:07.14 | AquaL1te | johndoe: do you use the debian multimedia repository? |
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| 14:07.37 | AquaL1te | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia |
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| 14:08.06 | PhoenixSTF | Would anyone recomend not using swap in a home server system with 8gb or RAM? |
| 14:08.33 | johndoe | AquaL1te: yes |
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| 14:09.59 | AquaL1te | when you run aptitude show vlc, do you have alle the dependencies? also the recommended ones? |
| 14:10.01 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: keep some, for implementation of linux memory management seems to like it |
| 14:10.15 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: just a small bit, like 1GB |
| 14:10.51 | johndoe | AquaL1te: yes |
| 14:10.58 | PhoenixSTF | jelly, ok ty |
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| 14:11.03 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: swap space is also used for hibernation, if you have a need for that |
| 14:11.05 | AquaL1te | weird... |
| 14:11.13 | AquaL1te | do you run gnome? |
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| 14:11.19 | johndoe | yes |
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| 14:11.39 | johndoe | AquaL1te: i mean, vlc can play other videos. just not divx ones |
| 14:11.49 | AquaL1te | very weird then, i have no problems |
| 14:12.22 | dp | I have a debian box that has a cron job in /etc/cron.daily that fails when run under cron, but not under a normal terminal; is there a way to have run-parts log the exit status of the job, so that I can start to narrow down the problem? |
| 14:12.32 | PhoenixSTF | jelly, no i wont be using hibernate i think, just a pure samba printer scanner and some other stuff for home |
| 14:12.53 | PhoenixSTF | jelly, swap should be a primary partition or extended? |
| 14:13.20 | AquaL1te | there was a recent vlc upgrade as i recall, or it's hold back on my system i don't know, if it's holded back then it must be for a reason... i'm sorry i can't help you |
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| 14:13.42 | AquaL1te | i'm not on my own pc right now so i can't check |
| 14:13.49 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: doesn't matter what kind of partition it is |
| 14:13.53 | johndoe | AquaL1te: thanks anyway for the help |
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| 14:14.03 | johndoe | AquaL1te: i could try installing an older version of vlc |
| 14:14.16 | PhoenixSTF | jelly, so it can be a primary number 2 |
| 14:14.27 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: you may have meant "primary or logical?" "extended" is a container for logical ones |
| 14:14.33 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: yes, it can |
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| 14:14.40 | AquaL1te | johndoe: you can try that |
| 14:14.59 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: it can be any kind of block device, eg. a LVM logical volume |
| 14:15.51 | Greg10 | Strange: i just copied 420 bytes of entropy from my Arch servers /dev/random to borealis and dd-ed it to /dev/random; it didn't increase /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail (still 178) |
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| 14:16.35 | PhoenixSTF | jelly, so is ok to have sdb1 of 319 gb and a sdb2 of 1gb for swap, i am asking this cause the old hdd has the swap under logical |
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| 14:16.55 | Greg10 | also: reading 10 bytes decreases available entropy by 126 bytes... (is /proc/.../entropy_avail even in bytes? O.o) |
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| 14:17.52 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: it doesn't matter. Yes, it's ok. |
| 14:18.03 | PhoenixSTF | jelly, ty m8 |
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| 14:18.51 | lxsameer | how can i downgrade a package like xserver-xorg-core |
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| 14:20.11 | wols | !tell lxsameer about downgrade |
| 14:20.22 | wols | lxsameer: please remember what I said above |
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| 14:21.10 | lxsameer | wols: about bugfix ? |
| 14:21.29 | wols | about not running sid if you have to ask |
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| 14:22.07 | lxsameer | wols: i'm in sid already :( |
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| 14:32.15 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 14:37.00 | MrMind | hmm, is there any security risk to have a weak password on a servers local user? I mean, the only way to get into it is with ssh and I will use key authentication, any ideas? |
| 14:37.28 | wols | local priviledge escalation |
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| 14:38.16 | n-iCe | hi wols |
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| 14:38.52 | two_eight | hi all |
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| 14:39.07 | MrMind | wols: so is it very stupid to have a weak password, or is the chance very low anyway? |
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| 14:42.03 | tdn | I recently helled a party (wedding) with lots of guests taking pictures that they would like me to have. What software exists that I can apt-get install that allows my (non-computer savvy) guests to give me a copy of their pictures? I have a server that is on a public IP. Guests are probably using Mac and Windows. |
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| 14:42.54 | n-iCe | picasa |
| 14:43.06 | Greg10 | tdn: ftp? |
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| 14:43.32 | Diaspora | Heeey guys and girls.. Does anyone knows a command to list the number of core processors at my machine? I need to make a script that prints exactly the number of core processors. Like "1" or "2". |
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| 14:46.33 | tdn | n-iCe, how can they do this with picasa? You mean by them creating a web gallery? Wouldn't that do a lossy compression on some of the files/videos? |
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| 14:46.58 | tdn | Greg10, I am fairly sure that most of the guests do not have an FTP client installed nor do they understand how to use it. |
| 14:47.27 | Greg10 | tdn: provide a readme ;-) |
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| 14:48.12 | tdn | I was hoping for something better. Preferably a web app so that my guests does not have to install some third party program on their machines. |
| 14:48.53 | Greg10 | tdn: i was just going to say that you could just hack a small file-uploader with http auth and cgi |
| 14:50.06 | tdn | Greg10, yeah, I guess I will have to do that if there does not exist such software already. This was what I was hoping for. |
| 14:50.44 | tdn | Because it takes time to create such a file uploader web app. Especially if it must handle uploading of multiple files. |
| 14:53.15 | MrMind | Is it necessery to install the "Laptop" package when installning Debian on a laptop that only will be used as Web Server? |
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| 14:54.08 | Mneumonic | What IS the laptop package? |
| 14:54.17 | Mneumonic | I did a debian install yesterday and realized I have no idea. |
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| 14:55.50 | MrMind | Mneumonic: I'm installing from the netinst cd and it's ask which software I want to install, like Web Server, SSh Server Laptop |
| 14:56.10 | MrMind | and I'm unsure if I need the Laptop package |
| 14:56.30 | Mneumonic | Yea i was asking if anyone could explain what that package is. I always just assume I need it |
| 14:56.39 | jargon- | anybody know how to restrict users from access the cups web ui? i want only the admin to be able to access it,via ldap logins |
| 14:56.54 | MrMind | Mneumonic: oh, I'm sorry =) |
| 14:57.29 | RomyEatsDrupal | Hello room, my name is Romy. I am trying to install some Haskell packages through Aptitude, or even apt-get install, but it appears the main mirror is down. is there any way i can switch mirrors or acquire this otherwise in a not-so-difficult manner? (kind of a n00b here) thanks! |
| 14:57.34 | RomyEatsDrupal | root@cherrygirl:/home/matahari# cabal update |
| 14:57.34 | RomyEatsDrupal | Config file path source is default config file. |
| 14:57.35 | RomyEatsDrupal | Config file /root/.cabal/config not found. |
| 14:57.35 | RomyEatsDrupal | Writing default configuration to /root/.cabal/config |
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| 14:58.12 | jargon- | RomyEatsDrupal: dpaste.org |
| 14:58.21 | RomyEatsDrupal | on my way there now jargon- |
| 14:58.26 | jargon- | k |
| 14:59.02 | RomyEatsDrupal | http://dpaste.org/Lj7Ou/ |
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| 14:59.20 | RomyEatsDrupal | standard 'mirror down' message, it appears. |
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| 14:59.59 | RomyEatsDrupal | i'm at Columbia University right now and incidentally, columbia.edu is the mirror it seems automatically defaulted to |
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| 15:00.37 | jelly | perhaps the people in #haskell channel would know more about workings of Haskell-specific tools |
| 15:01.09 | RomyEatsDrupal | jelly: mm, perhaps. I'm a member of that channel too and sometimes they are irked when asked linux/unix administration questions |
| 15:01.32 | jelly | "cabal" is not how one usually spells "apt-get" or "aptitude" |
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| 15:02.28 | RomyEatsDrupal | jelly: cabal is the package manger for haskell. like 'gem install' for ruby. |
| 15:03.12 | RomyEatsDrupal | but either way, i've been trying to download things for Haskell and Lisp, but nothing i try to download even starts downloading b/c the mirror refuses me or something. |
| 15:03.24 | RomyEatsDrupal | i don't know how to 'change' or 'switch' to a different mirror, if that's an option |
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| 15:05.39 | jelly | yeah, since it's a haskell-specific tool one would think the language channel would be more approachable |
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| 15:07.47 | fbs | what is the proper way to install moonlight in firefox wheezy + ff5.0 |
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| 15:08.15 | fbs | the moonlight website 4 preview only works for 4, and the link to the nightly is dead |
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| 15:15.10 | ||__\\\ | is lenny-backports actively maintained? |
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| 15:16.33 | somiaj | ||__\\\: not really, I doubt many new backports are made for lenny since it is going to stop getting any updates soon |
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| 15:17.09 | somiaj | backports in general don't get actively maintaned in terms of they may or may not get bugfixes, security fixes in a timely manner |
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| 15:18.03 | ||__\\\ | ok |
| 15:18.21 | daemonkeeper | That said, lenny-backports is maintained. |
| 15:18.30 | daemonkeeper | With the usual limitations of a backport. |
| 15:18.37 | ||__\\\ | somiaj: because we ran into this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=542435 |
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| 15:18.54 | ||__\\\ | with grub-pc and grub-common from lenny-backports |
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| 15:19.44 | ||__\\\ | and i was wondering if there was any change of getting lvm2 (>=2.02.51-2) into lenny-backports |
| 15:20.04 | ||__\\\ | s/change/chance/ |
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| 15:20.10 | somiaj | I'm unsure on the actual backport process, any reason why you cannot upgrade to squeeze in this situation? |
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| 15:21.12 | wols | especially when you have to do that in less than 6 months anyways |
| 15:21.42 | ||__\\\ | somiaj: several of our developers still need to run lenny on their workstations |
| 15:22.23 | pipeline | upgrading lvm implies dicking with the kernel, the initrd-generating scripts, and the installer |
| 15:22.31 | pipeline | I would be shocked if an updated lvm appeared in backports |
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| 15:22.38 | pipeline | upgrade to squeeze. Run lenny in a VM. |
| 15:23.18 | ||__\\\ | no, cannot do that.. well, i'll just backport it into our local repo or make some workaround |
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| 15:23.28 | ||__\\\ | just thought this might be an issue to others as well |
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| 15:24.14 | vivanov | hi -- how to boot different linux image ? i have 3.0, but i want 2.6 |
| 15:24.26 | somiaj | I think backports.debian.org having a request feature would be nice, though it might just spam the matainers with more work |
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| 15:27.39 | windparadise | hello, pls what does this command do ? rm ./* |
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| 15:28.22 | th0r | windparadise: it deletes everything in the current directory |
| 15:28.31 | th0r | windparadise: well...almost everything |
| 15:28.35 | windparadise | earlier, I have accidentally do rm /* and it seems it deleted all the base files, now I can't access my system |
| 15:28.42 | somiaj | vivanov: why do you have 3.0? what version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:28.59 | vivanov | somiaj: testing |
| 15:29.06 | vivanov | i chose it during install |
| 15:29.08 | windparadise | how do I restore it? |
| 15:29.12 | wols | windparadise: restore from backup. and learn to not run as root |
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| 15:29.23 | vivanov | installed 2.6 image -- dont have th eoption to choose it in grub |
| 15:29.35 | wols | vivanov: dpkg -l |grep linux-image |
| 15:29.37 | somiaj | vivanov: one would hope people running testing know how to manage their packages, but unless you can find an older 2.6.X image in testing that is the kernel, you'll haev to compile your own |
| 15:29.41 | windparadise | euh, it seems I don't have a backup here, I am using VPS |
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| 15:30.00 | jhutchins_lt | windparadise: You have successfully destroyed your system. Since you didn't have a backup you must reinstall. |
| 15:30.24 | vivanov | wols: it does list 2.6 |
| 15:30.39 | somiaj | vivanov: eventally testing will most likely be using a 3.X kernel come release so its not going to compile older kernels. |
| 15:30.40 | vivanov | somiaj: i installed the 2.6 package -- |
| 15:31.11 | wols | vivanov: you run testing. you should know enough to look into grub, know what update-grub is, etc. why don't you do it? |
| 15:31.12 | windparadise | ok, here, there is an option to reinstall an OS. will it overwrite all that's there or it will repair it ? |
| 15:31.30 | wols | vivanov: and "list" a package is not enough by far. but you know that already of course |
| 15:31.30 | vivanov | wols: already ran update-grub |
| 15:31.33 | vivanov | didnt help |
| 15:31.44 | wols | windparadise: there is no repair |
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| 15:32.01 | vivanov | wols: ok -- ill reboot and check it again -- thx |
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| 15:32.12 | wols | vivanov: since obviously testing is broken I strongly suggest you reinstall stable. it also has a 2.6 kernel |
| 15:32.30 | vivanov | wols: ok -- thx :) |
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| 15:34.32 | jelly | is there a MS Lync compatible IM client in Debian? |
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| 15:35.37 | wols | wth is MS Lync? |
| 15:36.04 | tensorpudding | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Lync |
| 15:36.07 | tensorpudding | apparently |
| 15:36.54 | wols | "All communication between the clients is done through a Microsoft Office Communications Server local server." good luck with compatible software for that... |
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| 15:37.40 | tensorpudding | to some limited extent, it's supported through SIPE |
| 15:37.57 | tensorpudding | http://sipe.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:37.57 | jelly | if you don't know any useful information, be kindly invited to keep quiet instead of wasting both your time writing, and my time reading the lines |
| 15:38.14 | tensorpudding | text-only, it seems |
| 15:38.18 | tensorpudding | none of the nice features |
| 15:38.36 | jelly | text-only is good enough and what I'm aiming at for a start |
| 15:39.03 | tensorpudding | and empathy through telepathy-haze, which can use the pidgin plugin |
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| 15:39.47 | tensorpudding | microsoft reportedly maintains open API docs for lync though |
| 15:40.07 | jelly | yeah, I'm not going to write my own client tho |
| 15:40.24 | tensorpudding | but it's almost surely .NET |
| 15:40.28 | tensorpudding | and who knows if Mono supports it |
| 15:40.40 | jelly | doesn't matter if it works in mono |
| 15:41.46 | jelly | Programming Languages: C |
| 15:41.57 | jelly | (for sipe) |
| 15:43.09 | jelly | ,versions pidgin-sipe |
| 15:43.09 | judd | Package pidgin-sipe on i386 -- lenny: 1.2-1; squeeze: 1.9.0-1.1; sid: 1.11.2-1; wheezy: 1.11.2-1 |
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| 15:47.28 | jelly | aight, now let's see what Pidgin is all about |
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| 15:48.12 | gebi | hi all :) |
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| 15:50.39 | jhutchins_lt | sipe is one of those "we're planning for a working release real soon now" voip protocols, isn't it? |
| 15:50.58 | n-iCe | hi, I am wondering, any software to know my local network traffic? and which computers are active and the bandwith they use? |
| 15:51.51 | Digdilem | n-iCe, iptraf |
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| 15:52.20 | n-iCe | Is it GUI? |
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| 15:52.27 | wols | Digdilem: doesn't do what he asked for. and for such software he either needs snmp or run this software on the router |
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| 15:52.35 | wols | iptraf is ncurses |
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| 15:53.11 | Digdilem | it's a network monitor. |
| 15:53.32 | Digdilem | but yeah, you won't be able to check bw on stuff that's not going through your computer |
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| 15:53.54 | Sheen | Hi all, I'm looking for something like #defoptions and #altoptions parameters in 'menu.lst', but in file 'pxelinux.cfg/default', is somebody could help me please ? |
| 15:53.59 | n-iCe | All I need to know is to know the ips/names of the computers connected in my network and if they are active |
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| 15:54.27 | wols | n-iCe: check arp cache |
| 15:54.29 | Digdilem | n-iCe, active = alive? then arp |
| 15:54.49 | n-iCe | arp? |
| 15:54.54 | wols | man arp |
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| 15:55.10 | pinkisntwell | is there some general system that accesses package documentation in debian? i mean, all those *-doc packages that you can install, how are they accessed? |
| 15:55.27 | n-iCe | awesome! |
| 15:55.28 | n-iCe | thanks |
| 15:55.44 | wols | pinkisntwell: /usr/share/doc/<package> ? |
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| 15:56.27 | windparadise | hello, I was disconnected |
| 15:56.33 | windparadise | is there nothing which can be done about it ? |
| 15:56.59 | daveo | anyone installed node.js on testing? I'm running linuxmint-xfce which is supposed to use same repositories as testing... |
| 15:57.03 | windparadise | I think the command deleted files only, could the directories be delet5ed as well? |
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| 15:59.44 | windparadise | any answer? |
| 15:59.50 | windparadise | so is there no undelete stuff ? |
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| 16:00.16 | Bushmills | easy, if nilfs is your file system |
| 16:01.18 | n-iCe | wols: arp does not show the network ips |
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| 16:02.09 | mutante | gpg key ID 473041FA, the squeeze archive signing key, i thought this was odd: from hkp server keyring.debian.org .. not found but from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com (or others) ..imported. How come it is not on the debian keyserver but everywhere else |
| 16:02.47 | wols | n-iCe: for me it shows hostnames and MACs just fine |
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| 16:05.46 | n-iCe | wols: NTOP is what I needed :) |
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| 16:09.32 | SinfulSong | So. |
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| 16:20.22 | megaTherion | Someone might know what the stable Debian release (codename) around 2001 was? |
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| 16:21.23 | mentor | megaTherion: slink, potato, ham? |
| 16:21.32 | megaTherion | ok dunno |
| 16:21.34 | mentor | mentor: woody? |
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| 16:21.38 | boudiccas | !someone |
| 16:21.38 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 16:21.52 | daemonkeeper | mentor, megaTherion: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 16:22.00 | mentor | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Debian#Release_history |
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| 16:22.13 | megaTherion | thanks |
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| 16:22.34 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: They asked the actual question. |
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| 16:23.51 | megaTherion | Im wondering, is there a way to migrate an old debian (around 2001) to stable? |
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| 16:24.26 | tensorpudding | wow, 2001? |
| 16:24.28 | tensorpudding | potato? |
| 16:24.29 | monotux | megaTherion: sounds like a bad idea, the risk of breakage is high |
| 16:24.58 | tensorpudding | you really need to reinstall |
| 16:25.08 | daemonkeeper | megaTherion: There is no straight transition path. It may work, but probably won't. You can hop through each release since then though. |
| 16:25.19 | megaTherion | hmm ok thanks |
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| 16:25.30 | tensorpudding | that's five upgrades |
| 16:25.33 | mentor | megaTherion: upgrade potato->woody->sarge->lenny->squeeze |
| 16:25.35 | daemonkeeper | megaTherion: Use archive.debian.org |
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| 16:25.43 | tensorpudding | you missed etch |
| 16:25.51 | tensorpudding | woody sarge etch lenny squeeze |
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| 16:26.17 | lotus-blade | what tool is ther to see what all of my cores are doing in the cpu? |
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| 16:26.36 | boudiccas | it would be easier and more secure to backup and do a fresh install |
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| 16:27.12 | daemonkeeper | I don't see any problem in doing that. Except of the painful upgrade. |
| 16:27.41 | Digdilem | lotus-blade, htop is good |
| 16:27.46 | lotus-blade | nevermind. I found it |
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| 16:28.32 | pudger | If I type /exec -o cat /dev/urandom in my IRC client, can I make it slower? |
| 16:28.34 | thewanderer1 | I need to modify OpenLDAP config from the console... am I screwed? |
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| 16:30.28 | thewanderer1 | ok, I'll run something called "shelldap"... written in Perl... wish me luck (making a backup now) :P |
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| 16:30.50 | fatalerrors | hey debian guys |
| 16:31.20 | lotus-blade | ok now I am installing my new motherboard. it is going from a dual core to 6 core processor. it is still an amd processor. is there anything special I have to do to my system? |
| 16:31.42 | lotus-blade | or will the cor change be automaticly detected? |
| 16:31.42 | Digdilem | not if it's already running an smp kernel |
| 16:31.51 | Digdilem | it'll just work |
| 16:31.53 | somiaj | lotus-blade: as long as its still 64 bit and you are using a stock kernel, it will detect all the new stuff |
| 16:31.56 | Dulak | lotus-blade: you on a stock kernel? |
| 16:32.21 | somiaj | lotus-blade: you may have some module issues, configurations for onboard sound, ethernet that may need to be changed, but it shoudlnt' be a big issue |
| 16:32.24 | lotus-blade | whatever was the base install is what I have |
| 16:32.54 | lotus-blade | 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP |
| 16:33.04 | Dulak | lotus-blade: you should be fine |
| 16:33.11 | lotus-blade | ok thanks |
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| 16:35.01 | Tux_Fighter | Hi guys do you know any audiodiary software with notes ? |
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| 16:36.19 | somiaj | Tux_Fighter: like midi? |
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| 16:42.35 | Tux_Fighter | don know |
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| 16:43.20 | Diaspora | anyone has material about FreeRadius implementation at wired networks? |
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| 16:49.13 | zulu86 | hello does anyone have experience with exim 4 autoresponders via router and transport? |
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| 16:49.46 | jhutchins_lt | Diaspora: The freeradius team insists that their documentation is complete. |
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| 16:50.29 | nsadmin | zulu86, there is #exim, ask the real question (not a poll to see who knows what) |
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| 16:54.19 | zulu86 | i used the wiki http://wiki.exim.org/EximAutoReply |
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| 16:54.45 | zulu86 | used the router and transport and it broke the mail... of course i modified a few things thatneeded modififying that im sure i did correct |
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| 16:57.37 | Greg10 | Which pam service (i.e. which file in /etc/pam.d) does dropbear use for password/key authentication? |
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| 16:58.21 | setuid | Is Sid no longer being updated? I haven't seen a kernel update in months.. |
| 16:58.34 | setuid | latest showing up in apt-cache search (after update) is 2.6.26 |
| 16:59.58 | jhutchins_lt | setuid: Something wrong on your end.\ |
| 17:00.01 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 17:00.02 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35squeeze2); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
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| 17:00.22 | setuid | jhutchins_lt, Then it must be the upstream mirrors being out of date, I'm current |
| 17:00.33 | jhutchins_lt | setuid: No, you're not. |
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| 17:01.16 | vikapi | can i install debian-testing using DVD 1??? |
| 17:01.28 | vikapi | does this have GNOME/KDE/XFCE/LXDE installed? |
| 17:02.14 | jhutchins_lt | vikapi: The testing installer is not necessarily current. The only reason to run it is to test the installer itself. |
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| 17:03.36 | jhutchins_lt | vikapi: If you have to ask questions like that, it's probably a much better idea if you run stable until you learn more about Debian's structure, package management, and update policy. |
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| 17:04.15 | pudger | Is there a way to do an unzip *.zip in a directory |
| 17:04.19 | pudger | When I do it, it says: |
| 17:04.23 | pudger | Archive: 2004MN4.zip |
| 17:04.23 | pudger | caution: filename not matched: 2007tu24.zip |
| 17:04.23 | pudger | caution: filename not matched: 2007wd5.zip |
| 17:04.23 | pudger | caution: filename not matched: 2k_4k_Iapetus.zip |
| 17:04.23 | pudger | caution: filename not matched: 2k_4k_Phoebe.zip |
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| 17:04.35 | pudger | anyway that's what it says |
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| 17:04.44 | jhutchins_lt | vikapi: Besidess, you need a stable install to compare against the testing system so you can tell what broke when it breaks. |
| 17:05.05 | pudger | how do I get asterisk to work your socks off |
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| 17:06.18 | jhutchins_lt | pudger: What you have constructed is a command that contains unzip followed by all of the package names. You can use find with it's exec option to do this. |
| 17:06.33 | pudger | I see |
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| 17:06.52 | llutz | pudger: unzip '*.zip' or for z in *.zip; do unzip $z; done |
| 17:07.01 | pudger | So make a shell script to get a listing of all zip files in that directory, then unzip |
| 17:07.12 | pudger | Ok, I wondered if it accepted that, didn't feel like typing them all out |
| 17:10.09 | vikapi | jhutchins_lt: i ve been using squeeze for quite a long time..i thought of using wheezy to test the GUI.. |
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| 17:10.31 | vikapi | but like squeeze, it is not giving me the tasksel.. |
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| 17:10.51 | vikapi | it says only a minimal number of packages will be installed. |
| 17:10.51 | jelly-home | w00t, got Pidgin to connect to Lync 2010 server at work! |
| 17:10.58 | joe6 | i want to startup '/usr/local/bin/urxvt --title "startup"' when I start X, I am using gdm3 + xmonad, and I added this script to .xinitrc. But, it is not starting the terminal. |
| 17:11.02 | joe6 | I just want to start irssi in a urxvt terminal. |
| 17:11.08 | joe6 | is that expected to work? putting console apps to .xinitrc? |
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| 17:11.45 | alex- | Shall I use Debian or Ubuntu? |
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| 17:12.01 | vikapi | jhutchins_lt: it errors when grub-pc is gettig installed.. |
| 17:12.13 | vikapi | cannot install grub in /target.. |
| 17:12.30 | vikapi | the installation dvd is only a week old.. |
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| 17:13.17 | th0r | alex-: what answers did you get in #ubuntu? |
| 17:13.28 | alex- | th0r: "It's up to you" |
| 17:13.31 | Greg10 | Strangely dropbear does not fail while ssh still gives me 'Couldn't obtain random bytes (error 604389476)'. Dropbear is not an option here though, I require a little more configuration than dropbear seems to be capable of :-S |
| 17:13.32 | alex- | I dont really know.... |
| 17:13.44 | th0r | alex-: sound advice |
| 17:13.51 | alex- | th0r: ? |
| 17:13.55 | studiofenix | alex-: slackware |
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| 17:14.04 | Greg10 | alex-: Archlinux :-P |
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| 17:14.10 | sinedeviance | hi all! |
| 17:14.11 | pudger | I'm thinkin about rubbity scrab dab |
| 17:14.13 | studiofenix | archlinux is a good option |
| 17:14.13 | th0r | alex-: gentoo? |
| 17:14.14 | alex- | (for a server) |
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| 17:14.25 | studiofenix | server, go for debian |
| 17:14.26 | th0r | alex-: centos? |
| 17:14.36 | studiofenix | case closed |
| 17:14.40 | sinedeviance | is there any way to get a list of all applications installed on a debian system? |
| 17:14.41 | alex- | i dont like centos |
| 17:14.44 | alex- | I want Debian or ubuntu |
| 17:14.45 | sinedeviance | i just rented a debian 5 VPS and something is horribly wrong it seems |
| 17:14.47 | Greg10 | alex-: still: Archlinux :D |
| 17:15.07 | studiofenix | why not debian? |
| 17:15.44 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell sinedeviance about installed |
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| 17:16.35 | sinedeviance | jelly-home: uh... what if i try to run that and it gives back "-bash: dpkg: command not found |
| 17:16.37 | sinedeviance | " |
| 17:16.50 | sinedeviance | which is the same thing it's giving for apt-get, aptitude, etc |
| 17:17.33 | jelly-home | sinedeviance: if /usr/bin/dpkg is not present, then that system is crippled. If it's present, your PATH variable may need some ajdustment |
| 17:17.41 | pudger | Where do I get the star trek ships for celestia |
| 17:18.10 | pudger | someone try typing /exec -o /dev/urandom and see if it works (it's not working for me) |
| 17:18.35 | jelly-home | pudger: there's no command in there! |
| 17:18.44 | jhutchins_lt | pudger: What do you suppose /exec is supposed to do? |
| 17:18.57 | pudger | someone try typing /exec -o cat /dev/urandom and see if it works (it's not working for me) |
| 17:19.00 | pudger | sorry |
| 17:19.03 | jelly-home | !ops pudger trolling again |
| 17:19.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: pudger trolling again |
| 17:19.04 | pudger | well |
| 17:19.18 | jelly-home | thanks for playing, moron |
| 17:19.21 | pudger | /bin/sh: is: not found |
| 17:19.27 | pudger | /exec is supposed to list the contents of a file |
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| 17:19.50 | jhutchins_lt | pudger: Try ls / and see if /exec even exists. |
| 17:19.57 | pudger | ls / |
| 17:19.58 | jelly-home | for the public: please do not run that command in your irc clients |
| 17:19.59 | Bushmills | things pudger aka egoga |
| 17:20.00 | sinedeviance | jelly-home: well... thats odd. i think it needs to be reinstalled. |
| 17:20.06 | Bushmills | thinks, even |
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| 17:20.31 | jelly-home | sinedeviance: or it's not debian |
| 17:20.35 | pudger | bin |
| 17:20.36 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: Ah, not paying enough attention, sorry. |
| 17:20.36 | pudger | boot |
| 17:20.37 | pudger | c |
| 17:20.38 | pudger | data.tar.gz |
| 17:20.39 | pudger | dev |
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| 17:20.42 | jelly-home | !tell sinedeviance about version |
| 17:20.52 | sinedeviance | jelly-home: uname -r verifies debian |
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| 17:21.21 | sinedeviance | jelly-home: ROFL. scratch that. someone screwed up here |
| 17:21.26 | jhutchins_lt | sinedeviance: VPMs often run specialized kernels. |
| 17:21.41 | sinedeviance | they gave me a CentOS or Fedora install by accident, but somehow it says it has a debian kernel D: |
| 17:22.01 | jhutchins_lt | sinedeviance: Or specially optimized installs. |
| 17:22.02 | jelly-home | it might be a VPS environment, running a debian kernel on the host |
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| 17:22.58 | sinedeviance | oh this is f***ed |
| 17:23.27 | mentor | The kernel is usually specified by the host |
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| 17:23.39 | mentor | So, you've got a Debain kernel with a CentOS image |
| 17:24.21 | wildc4rd | evenin all! |
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| 17:26.08 | sinedeviance | mentor: somehow, yes. |
| 17:26.26 | sinedeviance | mentor: uname -r says debian, but apt/dpkg are not present and RPM is |
| 17:26.46 | mentor | uname -r is just the kernel version |
| 17:27.14 | thewanderer1 | sinedeviance: lsb_release -a |
| 17:28.09 | sinedeviance | thewanderer1: i figured it out! |
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| 17:28.37 | sinedeviance | all servers from this host come with CentOS on them, i just had to login to the VM cpanel and reinstall with debian |
| 17:28.57 | sinedeviance | after it rebuilds itself i should be good to go. sorry for the noob question. |
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| 17:29.37 | ToHellWithGA | Kamping_Kaiser: adding -fPIC worked on mac os x |
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| 17:30.00 | ToHellWithGA | thanks for the help, i'll read the debian source later to see why position independent code matters to VLC |
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| 17:31.15 | sinedeviance | aha! now i'm golden |
| 17:31.17 | sinedeviance | thanks again all |
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| 17:36.14 | kittonian | morning all |
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| 17:38.19 | kittonian | is anyone around who knows tc traffic shaping really well? been working on my configuration since last thursday non-stop and cannot get this working the way i need it to. my currect config is at http://pastebin.com/ZGKU6xBH (shaping starts on line 146) and what i'm trying to accomplish is that the full bandwidth (up and down) will be used by anything that needs it UNLESS something with a higher priority needs more bandwidth and |
| 17:38.20 | kittonian | then those higher priority packets will take what they need causing the other lower priority packets to slow down |
| 17:38.26 | MrMind | samba vs nfs? I only have linux and mac machines on my home, what do you think would be best for me? |
| 17:38.32 | MrMind | in* |
| 17:39.27 | thewanderer1 | MrMind: try NFS since it's very simple to setup and fast... if it breaks, use Samba :P |
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| 17:39.52 | Greg10 | MrMind: do you require authentication or should everything be accesible to everyone? |
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| 17:40.44 | MrMind | Greg10: hmm, it just for my home network so I really don't need any authentication, but it feels more safe |
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| 17:41.44 | Greg10 | MrMind: Authentication is easier to setup with samba then nfs (that would require kerberos ;-) ), NFS is in general simpler, though |
| 17:42.16 | thewanderer1 | if someone breaks into your home, you're screwed anyway :) |
| 17:42.32 | MrMind | thewanderer1: hehe, you have a point there ;) |
| 17:42.46 | MrMind | Greg10: okey, is there any performance difference? |
| 17:43.32 | Greg10 | I *guess* NFS would be more performant (check up on that!) |
| 17:44.14 | valdyn | its probably not |
| 17:44.51 | valdyn | but the significant differences are about concurrent accesses |
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| 17:46.02 | ubuking | hi, is there some Qingy user around ? ( i'am trying to get it work with openbox ( stand alone) on minimal debian ) |
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| 17:51.26 | monotux | valdyn: in my experience, nfs is a lot faster than smb, like a *lot* faster for file transfers and such. load on the server was much lower too |
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| 17:53.39 | MrMind | anybody that can give some nice workgroup name, workgroup is kind of booring :p |
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| 17:53.50 | nameless` | hi |
| 17:54.41 | thewanderer1 | MrMind: RLYEH |
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| 17:55.19 | Greg10 | thewanderer1: cthulu ftahgn :D |
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| 17:57.59 | valdyn | monotux: its for his home net, even ssh should cap his <= 1GB ethernet |
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| 17:59.05 | Bushmills | MrMind: http://scarydevilmonastery.net/poet.cgi?inspire |
| 17:59.05 | valdyn | MrMind: qwerty |
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| 17:59.58 | Bushmills | click "INSPIRE" a few times until you find one you like |
| 18:00.35 | MrMind | Bushmills: thx =) |
| 18:01.18 | thewanderer1 | Bushmills: how the hell does this thing maintain a session? it's scary O.o |
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| 18:01.49 | nameless` | i've got a weird bug, i just installed debian 6 on my home-made NAS, (asus AT3-ionT-I) and there is the problem. When i boot with a screen plugged, i can log on through ssh and everythings work fine. But if i boot with no screen, each time i log with ssh (with zsh) i randomly experience a kernel Oops. here is different kern.log from different reboot (it seems to be related to zsh) : http://pastebin.com/rhacpx8q http://pastebin.co |
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| 18:02.06 | muchikon | #debian-co |
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| 18:03.46 | Bushmills | thewanderer1: http://scarydevilmonastery.net/inspire.txt |
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| 18:05.04 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: can you modify the size of the video memory in BIOS? |
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| 18:06.51 | nameless` | thewanderer1: give me 5 mn |
| 18:06.58 | Gokee2 | Hello everyone, I have a remote server running Debian Squeeze that fails to boot getting stuck at "waiting for /dev to be fully populated". A reboot has been attempted several times and its been left to sit about an hour or a little more now. Any advice on what do to? I am thinking of trying to guide someone onsite through removing PCI cards and such (it does have a analog phone card Digium 410P). Another thought though, can you control+c |
| 18:07.03 | Gokee2 | out of the waiting for dev to continue bootup without the devices? |
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| 18:08.36 | thewanderer1 | Gokee2: no, and try booting without "quiet" (or was that "silent"?) boot flag to see all messages |
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| 18:13.19 | nameless` | thewanderer1: i've got a iGPU Frame Buffer Size set to Auto |
| 18:13.27 | nameless` | thewanderer1: but i can set the size |
| 18:13.34 | Gokee2 | thewanderer1, Ah, I might be able to get them to edit the grub flags.... Its not a real technical person who is on site ATM though |
| 18:13.51 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: make it the maximum possible and try again... I've had really really strange failures due to firmware bugs on Atom |
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| 18:14.44 | nameless` | thewanderer1: i set to 512 which is the maximum. But i repeat, the bug occurs when NO screen is plugged |
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| 18:15.08 | MrMind | exit |
| 18:15.35 | MrMind | woops |
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| 18:16.39 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: I know, it didn't matter in my case... also, maybe you're hitting a nouveau bug, try booting without KMS |
| 18:17.52 | nameless` | thewanderer1: i'll try |
| 18:18.06 | thewanderer1 | actually, I'm just guessing here since the failure seems I/O related, but it's better than doing nothing since I don't have an idea about debugging the block layer |
| 18:18.32 | nameless` | don't you think it's because of zsh ? |
| 18:18.37 | thewanderer1 | by the way, why i386 and not amd64 release of Debian? |
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| 18:19.07 | nameless` | thewanderer1: because i asked here for advice and one told me that i386 was fine enough |
| 18:19.15 | thewanderer1 | hm, ok |
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| 18:19.35 | thewanderer1 | sure zsh is doing something with I/O, but it's not like a shell can crash a kernel |
| 18:20.17 | nameless` | yeah that's what i thought |
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| 18:20.33 | nameless` | thewanderer1: ok no problem so far with 512M for iGPU |
| 18:20.53 | nameless` | but i don't like this situation, like it could happen at anytime |
| 18:21.09 | thewanderer1 | I know... somehow Atom boards tend to be very buggy |
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| 18:21.34 | nameless` | i've never read anything about that before |
| 18:21.40 | Diaspora | I have a test of my school to answer, and i have a question that im not sure of how ill solve. Look: "Any HTTP Request (for existent directories/pages or not) for the domain www.site.com must be redirected for the main page " |
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| 18:22.09 | Diaspora | any idea? |
| 18:22.24 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: it only comes up once you try to use the board :P |
| 18:22.36 | nameless` | thewanderer1: huhu |
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| 18:23.18 | nameless` | thewanderer1: the 512MB memory for iGPU are taken from the RAM ? |
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| 18:24.13 | nameless` | i'm gonna try booting without KMS (it's nomodeset at grub option right ?) |
| 18:24.30 | fragrant | is this command correct ? aptitude purge remove package |
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| 18:24.39 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: yes, it's taken from RAM, and about the option, check the Debian wiki |
| 18:24.49 | nameless` | fragrant: aptitude purge without the remove keyword |
| 18:24.52 | nkuttler | !tell Diaspora about homework |
| 18:25.13 | Diaspora | hahahahaha |
| 18:25.15 | fragrant | nameless`: what's the problem with "remove" keyword ? |
| 18:25.21 | kittonian | I created a post on linux-forums that describes my issue and what I'm trying to accomplish, along with my current script at http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/networking/182807-tc-traffic-shaping-voip.html#post861562 |
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| 18:26.00 | thewanderer1 | fragrant: aptitude is not a search engine. it doesn't operate on "keywords" :P |
| 18:26.33 | fragrant | apt-get --purge remove <package> is it correct ? |
| 18:26.41 | boudiccas | fragrant; no |
| 18:27.07 | boudiccas | fragrant; same thing, you're giving it two commands, remove and purge |
| 18:27.35 | boudiccas | fragrant; you can use either, but not togethor |
| 18:28.12 | thewanderer1 | actually, for apt-get --purge is correct |
| 18:28.31 | thewanderer1 | because it's a flag, and interpreted as such, not as action |
| 18:28.34 | boudiccas | thewanderer1; yes, but not with remove too |
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| 18:28.41 | fragrant | but i think , aptitude purge remove package works |
| 18:28.50 | thewanderer1 | boudiccas: apt-get differs from aptitude in this matter |
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| 18:29.47 | valdyn | kittonian: this is not very hard, but it doesnt really give good results unless you control *both* ends of the slow link |
| 18:30.52 | kittonian | valdyn: if you'd be willing to give me a hand with this I'd truly appreciate it. i don't think there are any more docs i can read to understand this (personally) any better. i've sort of reached my limit |
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| 18:32.10 | valdyn | kittonian: I'm not going to read your script - I'm using shorewall - tc directly is just painful |
| 18:32.39 | valdyn | kittonian: this is a huge script, but i dont think thats required |
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| 18:33.07 | xingu | if only there were some sort of protocol for resource reservation |
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| 18:33.32 | valdyn | kittonian: first of all in this you need to throttle your traffic to 90% of bandwidth or even lower |
| 18:33.59 | valdyn | kittonian: because cacheing on both ends is what kills your latency |
| 18:34.00 | nameless` | thewanderer1: KMS disabled seems to work fine as well |
| 18:34.19 | thewanderer1 | xingu: you mean like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_reservation_protocol |
| 18:34.42 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: good. I'm getting an AMD board for my next NAS project, too :P |
| 18:34.52 | kittonian | valdyn: you're suggesting that I throttle all available bandwidth to 90% so that 10% always remains unused so the queues don't build up? |
| 18:34.54 | valdyn | kittonian: then fixing that uploads kill latency is easy, fixing that downloads kill latency is about impossible if you dont control the other side |
| 18:35.04 | xingu | thewanderer1: those intartubes people, they steal all my best ideas |
| 18:35.19 | kittonian | i'm not worried about downloads, just upload speeds. i have a 10mb/1mb connection |
| 18:35.35 | valdyn | kittonian: correct |
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| 18:36.13 | nameless` | thewanderer1: i choose the asus at3iont-i because it was cheap, a lan controller and 4 S-ATA and atom doesn't consume a lot of memory |
| 18:36.23 | valdyn | kittonian: third principle is that you need to give handshake packets high priority even if they belong to lower priority traffic |
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| 18:36.50 | kittonian | valdyn: the huge script has little to do with traffic shaping and more to do with NAT and my firewall. that's why i pointed out the traffic shaping portion starting on line 146 |
| 18:37.10 | valdyn | kittonian: ok, alright ( im not going to read it anyway ) |
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| 18:37.41 | kittonian | valdyn: i understand, but i know these core concepts already. what i'm looking for is specifically how to accomplish these tasks |
| 18:37.50 | kittonian | and what i'm doing wrong with my current script |
| 18:37.53 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: I'm surprised that it worked :P |
| 18:38.07 | valdyn | kittonian: sorry, i cant read it, i dont know tc itself. I use shorewall |
| 18:38.08 | nameless` | thewanderer1: the KMS trick ? |
| 18:38.22 | valdyn | kittonian: or i knew tc only till i found that shorewall makes the easy |
| 18:38.40 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: yes... was a shot in the dark :P |
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| 18:39.17 | nameless` | thewanderer1: well i'm not that surprised, i just spent half of a day installing ubuntu with a intel GMA 4500MHD chipset, it was a hell |
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| 18:39.25 | Bushmills | there's wondershaper which is a script building on tc |
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| 18:39.35 | nameless` | thewanderer1: KMS + chipset intel are not friend |
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| 18:40.30 | kittonian | Bushmills: wondershaper won't steal the other bandwidth |
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| 19:02.57 | valdyn | thewanderer1: or so is it in ipx |
| 19:03.00 | rozie | dhcp native? since when? |
| 19:03.01 | Trewas | rozie: ext4 and btrfs have nothing in common and ext-anything cannot be upgrade in place to btrfs (without full reformat) |
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| 19:03.18 | xingu | in iOS the link local block is also tied into the "oh noez I have no internetz" assumption of death. |
| 19:03.19 | thewanderer1 | rozie: hmm Linux supports DHCP I think :P |
| 19:03.23 | auska | valdyn: like an automaticaly configured "vpn on lan"? |
| 19:03.31 | valdyn | auska: its not a vpn |
| 19:03.35 | xingu | which, for those of us using it, is ... annoying. |
| 19:03.36 | rozie | thewanderer1: define native ;) |
| 19:03.45 | valdyn | auska: you can have as many ips on every interface as you want |
| 19:03.58 | valdyn | auska: now you have 2, one setup by you, the other setup by avahi |
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| 19:04.06 | auska | aha... |
| 19:04.23 | valdyn | auska: you can add 10 more or disable that part of avahi or whatever you want |
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| 19:04.29 | auska | and why does avahi use it? |
| 19:04.47 | rozie | Trewas: man btrfs-convert |
| 19:04.52 | valdyn | auska: funny question |
| 19:05.06 | valdyn | auska: ask the developers why they implemented this |
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| 19:05.33 | valdyn | auska: but the basic idea is that having a functional network without configuring anything is a good idea |
| 19:05.38 | xingu | auska: defacto standard; see "zeroconf" |
| 19:05.58 | Trewas | rozie: well if there is an exotic tool to convert ext4 to btrfs, there certainly is a non-exotic one to convert ext-less-than-four to ext4 |
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| 19:06.06 | thewanderer1 | surprisingly enough, Windows also gets an address from that pool if it can't get anything else :) |
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| 19:42.44 | wols | so what graphics chip do you have? and what does glxinfo say? |
| 19:42.51 | axius1234 | Mobile 945GME |
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| 19:44.24 | axius1234 | and my intel_gpu_top shows my gpu just idleing by while my cpu is at 99% from viewing a few small photos... |
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| 19:44.51 | axius1234 | sorry for my bad spelling |
| 19:45.51 | axius1234 | is there anything i should look for in this situation ? |
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| 19:53.20 | MrRoy | How would one go about giving a specific user the right to mount a(all) drive(s) |
| 19:53.42 | MrRoy | I edited the etc/fstab file, giving myself the right to, but it didn't work |
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| 20:05.02 | LtL | MrRoy: visudo sudoers and give that user permission to the 'mount' command. |
| 20:06.38 | valdyn | giving out access to the full features of mount is *quite* a bit more than just letting a user mount whats in fstab |
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| 20:06.55 | MrRoy | LtL: I would like that user to be able to do so using the shortcut on the desktop |
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| 20:07.36 | MrRoy | But I found the problem, it's because the user doesn't have the right to use /dev/fsure |
| 20:07.38 | MrRoy | fuse* |
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| 20:09.26 | LtL | MrRoy: make the shortcut with gksu prefix. I think it's gksu, I never use it but that should prompt him for his password. |
| 20:09.29 | megaTherion | experiments with vga passthru |
| 20:09.49 | megaTherion | actually when I do it, I get two unknown devices in winxp for example - an pci card #0 and an display card |
| 20:10.06 | LtL | MrRoy: in the shortcut's properties... edit the gksu into it. |
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| 20:11.08 | LtL | MrRoy: maybe adding him to the plugdev group may work. |
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| 20:12.18 | MrRoy | LtL: Well right now I'm trying to give him the access to /dev/fuse, but yeah I have to add him to a group |
| 20:12.52 | LtL | MrRoy: sudoers would be the simplest, safest imo. |
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| 20:14.37 | MrRoy | LtL: the group plugdev didn't work. And I'd prefer not having to enter a password |
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| 20:16.25 | valdyn | MrRoy: fuse owned by group fuse... |
| 20:17.05 | valdyn | ( whatever plugdev is supposed to have to do with that - i dont know ) |
| 20:17.06 | MrRoy | valdyn: Oh.. |
| 20:17.36 | axius1234 | hello, what would you advise me to look after if i'm having poor 2d performance using a intel 945gme graphic card ? |
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| 20:18.05 | axius1234 | i'm using debian squeeze and xfce |
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| 20:19.06 | MrRoy | axius1234: Did you check for drivers available for that card? |
| 20:20.12 | axius1234 | other than xserver-xorg-video-intel form the debian repository no ... i'll take a look at the intel site |
| 20:20.14 | axius1234 | thanks |
| 20:22.56 | jhutchins_lt | axius1234: intel in squeeze requires a kernel fb module too. |
| 20:24.00 | nameless` | axius1234: are you sure you are running intel driver and not vesa ? |
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| 20:26.50 | mrtnt | Where does "apt-cache stats" takes it's information? I mean this command does not use network connection, but on the other hand even if I clear out the local repository of retrieved package files with "apt-get clean", I can still see the information regarding packages with "apt-cache stats". Any ideas? |
| 20:27.39 | axius1234 | i'm not sure, how do i check ? |
| 20:28.11 | edwinsage | apt-get is complaining about broken packages and won't let me install software until I remove the offending package; however I am completely content with the functionality of my "broken" package. How do I get apt-get/synaptic/Debian in general to install packages again? |
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| 20:28.25 | MrRoy | axius1234: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it should be in "device" |
| 20:28.27 | pushpop_ | can you run gnome 3 in squeeze? |
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| 20:28.39 | axius1234 | aptitude search vesa gives me: i A xserver-xorg-video-vesa so it is installed and active ? |
| 20:28.47 | jhutchins_lt | !gnome3 |
| 20:28.48 | nameless` | axius1234: check your /var/log/xorg.log |
| 20:28.48 | dpkg | GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html |
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| 20:29.12 | nameless` | axius1234: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log* |
| 20:29.45 | axius1234 | in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i have in the Device section: Driver "intel" |
| 20:29.54 | nameless` | axius1234: good |
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| 20:33.14 | axius1234 | and in /var/log/Xorg.0.log i found (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so |
| 20:33.19 | axius1234 | so i'm using the intel driver |
| 20:34.36 | LtL | edwinsage: use synaptic to fix broken, if you have it. |
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| 20:35.23 | edwinsage | LtL: It wants to remove it. The program works fine, despite the package manager claiming broken dependencies. |
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| 20:36.01 | LtL | edwinsage: what wants to remove what? |
| 20:36.10 | Iamred | hello i come to england for to study english |
| 20:36.13 | Iamred | help.? |
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| 20:37.07 | Iamred | and also i can speak the english very well xD |
| 20:37.11 | edwinsage | LtL: Synaptic and/or apt-get want to remove the up-to-date gtk-gnutella package before proceeding to make any other changes. The installed version runs fine, despite "broken dependencies". I do not want to downgrade it. |
| 20:37.36 | phogg | edwinsage: I've seen that happen before for cases where I have an ancient package I'm installing on a newish system. Force depends and it works, but then apt claims it's broken. In these cases you can repackage it with a newer set of dependencies. |
| 20:38.04 | MrRoy | axius1234: I can't really help you. You should check if the open-source intel drivers are good for 2d. I'd suggest checking into official drivers too |
| 20:38.12 | Iamred | can a person help me for to study english? xDxDxd |
| 20:38.41 | phogg | Iamred: wrong channel for that |
| 20:38.44 | edwinsage | phogg: So there's really no way to simply tell apt-get "Thanks, but I'm fine, I'll decide for myself"? |
| 20:39.00 | Iamred | what the channel right.? |
| 20:39.08 | phogg | edwinsage: not that I know of, but I am not an expert on all of apt's options |
| 20:39.15 | axius1234 | thank you, i will :) |
| 20:39.23 | UnknownFork | I named my apple core intel |
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| 20:39.31 | axius1234 | good night for now :) |
| 20:39.42 | wols | edwinsage: what is the actual error? |
| 20:39.54 | phogg | edwinsage: is there a reason you can't use a non-broken version of the package? |
| 20:39.58 | Iamred | i dont speak the english native (my english so good you might not niced that!) xD |
| 20:40.12 | th0r | edwinsage: to keep the gnutella that is installed you can lock it in synaptic, or check 'pinning' in apt |
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| 20:40.52 | Iamred | so can people help a man.? xD |
| 20:40.55 | wols | th0r: that won't help |
| 20:41.22 | Iamred | i am silly man who no english! xD |
| 20:41.22 | th0r | wols: I thought he said he just wanted to keep the version he had |
| 20:41.31 | wols | Iamred: this is a debian channel, for support of the debian linux distro only. we do not help people learn english. please go to #linguistics, #english or whatever |
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| 20:41.44 | MrRoy | lamred: /join #english |
| 20:41.45 | wols | edwinsage: please answer my question |
| 20:42.00 | Iamred | thank you the study.! xD |
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| 20:42.26 | Iamred | i am clever man now |
| 20:42.28 | rozie | ops? |
| 20:42.42 | Iamred | BTW, I can speak perfect English you cunts! |
| 20:42.45 | phogg | I think he thinks he's funny. |
| 20:42.45 | rozie | can you help Iamred, pleas? |
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| 20:42.51 | Iamred | LINUX MINT FOREVAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. |
| 20:42.52 | rozie | please* |
| 20:42.56 | wols | !ops Iamred wants to go |
| 20:42.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: wols complains about: Iamred wants to go |
| 20:43.34 | Iamred | !ops wols swear |
| 20:43.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: iamred complains about: wols swear |
| 20:43.43 | Dulak | this channel gets a lot of trolls |
| 20:43.58 | phogg | Strange place to troll. |
| 20:44.11 | phogg | thanks, ops! |
| 20:44.12 | UnknownFork | yeah |
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| 20:44.22 | UnknownFork | I was getting tired of that troll |
| 20:44.39 | edwinsage | wols: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these \ The following packages have unmet dependencies: \ gtk-gnutella: |
| 20:44.45 | edwinsage | wols: etc. |
| 20:44.56 | phogg | edwinsage: not etc, paste or pastebin the rest |
| 20:45.25 | edwinsage | Hold on, I need to get a GUI running. |
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| 20:46.04 | phogg | edwinsage: install pastebinit and then you don't need no stinkin GUIs. |
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| 20:46.18 | phogg | except that yours is an apt wont let me install things problem... d'oh |
| 20:46.23 | aussa | hi, how do I disable the window opening when I plug a usb stick? |
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| 20:46.45 | joe6 | do you use this command in /etc/inittab to startx automatically? x:5:once:/bin/su - -- PREFERRED_USER -l -c '/usr/bin/startx </dev/null >/dev/null 2>&1' |
| 20:46.53 | joe6 | or, is there a debian preferred way of doing it. |
| 20:47.03 | rozie | aussa: which window? which wm? |
| 20:47.21 | joe6 | google suggests using a startx in bash_profile |
| 20:47.34 | joe6 | but, just curious if editing the inittab is a better idea. |
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| 20:47.56 | wols | the preferred way is "none of the above" |
| 20:47.58 | rozie | joe6: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 20:48.05 | aussa | xfce, every time I plug a usb stick, a thunar window pops up showing the files in the usb |
| 20:48.35 | edwinsage | Ok, that didn't work, but this should: http://eotnproductions.dyndns.org/error |
| 20:48.37 | joe6 | rozie, i am using xmonad as my desktop manager, just got rid of gnome and gdm. startx works fine. |
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| 20:48.40 | rozie | aussa: OK, cannot help, but at least we know it's xfce |
| 20:48.52 | rozie | joe6: install slim OSLT |
| 20:49.06 | wols | ,versions http://eotnproductions.dyndns.org/error |
| 20:49.06 | joe6 | and, I am wondering where I can put the startx command to start it automatically on boot. |
| 20:49.06 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'http://eotnproductions.dyndns.org/error' was found in i386. |
| 20:49.13 | wols | ,versions libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 |
| 20:49.15 | judd | Package libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 on i386 -- sid: 2.24.0-1; wheezy: 2.24.0-1 |
| 20:49.15 | joe6 | rozie: thanks, will check slim. |
| 20:49.25 | wols | !tell edwinsage about ssb |
| 20:49.32 | wols | edwinsage: don't mix stable and testing |
| 20:49.56 | th0r | joe6: I always prefer to keep such things local...bash_profile or such |
| 20:50.11 | joe6 | th0r, oh, ok. thanks. |
| 20:50.41 | joe6 | that is a good idea. thanks. |
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| 20:50.56 | joe6 | but, something in inittab needs to kick it off. doesn't it? |
| 20:50.57 | edwinsage | wols: I'm not sure what that info you sent me is about. |
| 20:51.34 | wols | edwinsage: a way to get your p2p client on your debian stable (I assume you run squeeze. I can still hope I guess) |
| 20:51.41 | th0r | joe6: you wouldn't need to start X at bootup unless you wanted to run vnc or ssh forwarding |
| 20:51.52 | wols | edwinsage: you use a package from testing or above under squeeze, which cannot work |
| 20:52.05 | joe6 | th0r, oh, ok. reading up on it. it makes sense to put it in the shell. |
| 20:52.08 | phogg | edwinsage: you need to backport, which is what ssb was about. |
| 20:52.28 | wols | edwinsage: in fact since you already installed libc6 and others from testing, you already broke your debian. you will get more problems in the future thanks to your actions |
| 20:52.48 | th0r | joe6: it has been years, but I think there is a local file that only runs on first login....can't remember which it is though. |
| 20:53.00 | joe6 | i think .zprofile |
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| 20:53.21 | th0r | joe6: yeah...maybe |
| 20:53.27 | th0r | ~/.profile |
| 20:53.39 | edwinsage | wols: No, I'm running the stable version of libc6. |
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| 20:54.01 | wols | edwinsage: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 20:54.55 | edwinsage | wols: 2.11.2-10 |
| 20:54.57 | th0r | joe6: ~/.login or ~/.profile, I think either will work |
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| 20:55.21 | joe6 | th0r, but the user needs to login, for them to work, correct? |
| 20:55.42 | wols | edwinsage: where is your gnutella client from? |
| 20:55.52 | th0r | joe6: right, that is what I was getting at about vnc...if you want X running from scratch it will have to go in init |
| 20:56.05 | joe6 | th0r, ok, thanks. |
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| 20:56.37 | edwinsage | wols: From testing or unstable or something. |
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| 20:57.48 | wols | edwinsage: I told you how to do it, until you do you have 2 choices: remove the package or never install anything via apt-get again |
| 20:58.34 | edwinsage | wols: So apt-get really is that limiting? th0r, what were you saying about locking packages? |
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| 20:59.07 | th0r | edwinsage: locking your gtk-gnutella will keep apt from trying to upgrade it, but it won't keep it from trying to match the dependencies |
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| 21:00.03 | mrtnt | Where does "apt-cache stats" takes it's information? I mean this command does not use network connection, but on the other hand even if I clear out the local repository of retrieved package files with "apt-get clean", I can still see the information regarding packages with "apt-cache stats". Any ideas? |
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| 21:06.41 | joltcan | mrtnt: apt-get clean cleans the .deb file cache |
| 21:06.59 | joltcan | mrtnt: it reads the info from apt-get update, which retreives all the Packages listing |
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| 21:07.14 | gentz | How can I make aptitude show from which repository a package comes from? |
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| 21:07.33 | mrtnt | joltcan: ok..but do you happen to know how to clean "apt-get update" listing? |
| 21:07.33 | th0r | edwinsage: are you just looking for the latest gtk-gnutella? |
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| 21:08.15 | joltcan | mrtnt: what are you trying to do? If you remove a source from /etc/apt/sources... it will be removed the next time you run apt-get update |
| 21:08.27 | Iridos | judd, versions guile-1.8 |
| 21:08.27 | judd | Package guile-1.8 on i386 -- lenny: 1.8.5+1-4.1; squeeze: 1.8.7+1-3; sid: 1.8.8+1-6; wheezy: 1.8.8+1-6 |
| 21:09.00 | edwinsage | th0r: At the moment, yes. |
| 21:09.16 | th0r | edwinsage: did you try the .deb from sourceforge? it is 97.1 |
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| 21:09.56 | edwinsage | Apparently dpkg does not do the same dependency checking, and I'm able to install downloaded .deb files with it. |
| 21:10.04 | edwinsage | th0r: No, I did not. Should that work? |
| 21:10.12 | th0r | edwinsage: it says it is for debian, but still might have unmet dependencies from squeeze |
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| 21:11.23 | edwinsage | th0r: I will give that a try and see if it plays nice. |
| 21:11.25 | gentz | What does "upstream" refer to? |
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| 21:11.44 | Iridos | how weird, I'm unable to install the version from squeeze... apt-cache policy guile-1.8 only sees the ones from wheezy and sid, too |
| 21:11.50 | th0r | edwinsage: I just pulled it down, but don't feel real adventurous at the moment <smile> |
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| 21:12.02 | Iridos | when I remove that from sources.list, don't see any |
| 21:12.39 | MrFrood | gentz: the original authors of a prog, not the debian packagers |
| 21:12.43 | streuner | gentz: upstream means the orginal devels... |
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| 21:12.59 | Chelsea | Hi all, is there a file or webpage that lists all current versions of all packages of a distro? |
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| 21:13.34 | edwinsage | th0r: Nah, dpkg is returning the same types of errors. It does install it, though. |
| 21:13.36 | streuner | Chelsea: in Debian, packages.debian.org/<package> |
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| 21:13.56 | DrMrHorse | anybody have a link for getting rid or the awful beep on shutdown? tried several methods |
| 21:14.03 | gentz | thanks' |
| 21:14.11 | streuner | dpkg, beep |
| 21:14.11 | dpkg | well, beep is echo -ne 'a', or aptitude install beep, or ask me about <bell>, <qotd89>. For the audio player, ask me about <bmp>. For the protocol framework, see http://beepcore.org/ |
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| 21:14.15 | th0r | edwinsage: it was worth a shot. The one issue with debian is that it doesn't update very often, but then again, that is why I moved to debian |
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| 21:15.47 | DrMrHorse | dpkg, bell |
| 21:15.48 | dpkg | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. See also <pcspkr>, <shell beep>, <metacity bell bug>. |
| 21:16.02 | Iridos | DrMrHorse, the simplest would be not to shut down... another one would be to blacklist the pcspkr kernel module |
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| 21:16.34 | DrMrHorse | Iridos: i tried to rmmod and echo to the blacklist, but it didnt work. also tried the xset deal |
| 21:16.58 | Iridos | blacklist only takes effect on boot... have to rmmod to remove the current one |
| 21:17.15 | edwinsage | th0r: I'm just dissapointed that the package tools are so restrictive. There should at least be an override, even if it's not available by default. I guess I'm just a Slackware kinda guy at heart. |
| 21:17.47 | DrMrHorse | Iridos: i have used several reboot since i blacklisted |
| 21:17.51 | DrMrHorse | +s |
| 21:17.57 | Iridos | dpkg, blacklist |
| 21:17.57 | dpkg | In lenny and later, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 21:18.08 | Iridos | DrMrHorse, did you check if it gets loaded? |
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| 21:18.21 | DrMrHorse | Iridos: no. would it be in dmesg? |
| 21:18.51 | Iridos | probably... but I thought more of lsmod |grep pcspkr |
| 21:19.09 | mrtnt | joltcan: I'm just reading and learning about apt tools. However, please check this: http://pastebin.com/pD7LjuYa There is very little difference in "apt-cache stats" output in case I have only "main" repo in sources.list or if I have "main", "contrib" and "non-free" under sources.list.. |
| 21:19.33 | DrMrHorse | Iridos: looks like it was not loaded |
| 21:19.40 | DrMrHorse | which is bad |
| 21:19.49 | Iridos | why? |
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| 21:19.54 | Iridos | means the blacklisting worked |
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| 21:19.59 | DrMrHorse | because its still making the sound |
| 21:20.40 | Iridos | shouldn't come from the kernel or anything accessing the hardware over it, then |
| 21:20.48 | joe6 | su - -- joe -l -c 'echo "test"' >>|/var/log/startx.log 2>&1 , when I have something like this, will "su" use the login shell to run startx? the /etc/passwd entry for joe, sets the shell to zsh. |
| 21:21.03 | joe6 | can I assume that inittab will run the above in zsh? |
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| 21:21.19 | Iridos | do you see anything wrong with this apt/preferences file? http://paste.debian.net/131093/ |
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| 21:24.23 | Iridos | argh, found what made the trouble |
| 21:24.32 | Iridos | duh |
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| 21:27.22 | Iridos | judd, versions lilypond |
| 21:27.22 | judd | Package lilypond on i386 -- lenny: 2.10.33-2.3; sid: 2.12.3-7; squeeze: 2.12.3-7; wheezy: 2.12.3-7 |
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| 21:28.00 | Iridos | how the heck can I find out why my system doesn't see the one in squeeze |
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| 21:28.31 | Iridos | oh, *sigh* |
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| 21:29.47 | xf_merc | Anyone got any tips for booting from a PCMCIA hard disk? |
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| 21:30.33 | xf_merc | There doesn't seem to be any option in the bios for booting from them, and I couldn't convince the rescue mode to install a bootloader on a usb pen. |
| 21:31.02 | streuner | sounds like a <ruby goldberg install> |
| 21:31.07 | Iridos | dpkg, usb install |
| 21:31.07 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 21:31.26 | streuner | dpkg, ruby goldberg install |
| 21:31.26 | dpkg | wish i knew, streuner |
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| 21:31.43 | Iridos | xf_merc, look at the last link... you install that on the disk and it seems to boot from pretty much anywhere |
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| 21:31.52 | streuner | dpkg, rube goldberg install |
| 21:31.52 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
| 21:32.26 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
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| 21:32.55 | xf_merc | Iridos: Thanks! |
| 21:33.34 | Wicket | Good evening. I recently broke my motherboard, and bought a new one. When i try to boot from the "old" (and only) drive I get through grub, then it waits until the drive is mounted.. but it fails to mount it, giving me some long disk ID. The disk is labelled and the fstab entry does use a label. Any tips_ |
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| 21:38.44 | wols | !tell Wicket about errors |
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| 21:39.41 | boudiccas | Wicket; i reckon that the best option is backup and then do a fresh install, but i could be wrong, it has been known |
| 21:39.45 | white_magic | is it possible to open gedit from terminal w/o 'hanging up' the terminal? something like how if you run 'nautilus [dirpath]', it will just open the dir in Nautilus and let you continue to use the terminal |
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| 21:40.16 | wols | boudiccas: not for hardware change like a mobo. this is not windows |
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| 21:40.27 | wols | white_magic: gedit <options>& |
| 21:40.29 | pipeline | Wicket: so you get as far as an initrd ? try break=premount, use the initrd shell to poke around |
| 21:40.36 | white_magic | aha |
| 21:40.40 | wols | white_magic: the important part is the & at the end of the command line |
| 21:40.54 | Exio | wols: ctrl-z + bg :P |
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| 21:42.07 | Wicket | pipeline: let me write that down and try it out. Right now I'm working from an old live usb disk i found lying around. bbl, hopefully with some more usefull error messages. |
| 21:42.34 | white_magic | hey, it works! |
| 21:42.34 | white_magic | thanks a bunch |
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| 21:42.52 | white_magic | its really quite annoying if you dont use the & - i had to create numerous terminal instances for editing a few files at once |
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| 21:42.57 | white_magic | what does the '&' do? |
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| 21:43.02 | white_magic | something about.. reference? |
| 21:43.14 | wols | no, your bash prompt is not C++ |
| 21:43.28 | white_magic | haha |
| 21:43.33 | white_magic | ok, that's all i got |
| 21:43.43 | white_magic | clueless after that |
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| 21:43.55 | Juul | is there a simple utility in the debian package repository which lets you open a server socket for simple text input/output? |
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| 21:44.31 | JoshH | white_magic: you can edit multiple files at once with decent editors... also look into screen |
| 21:44.38 | wols | JoshH: netcat |
| 21:44.56 | wols | Juul: ^^ |
| 21:45.00 | white_magic | what's 'screen'? |
| 21:45.11 | white_magic | doesn't look like it's a package |
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| 21:45.14 | wols | white_magic: apt-cache show screen |
| 21:45.15 | wols | it is |
| 21:45.25 | Juul | oh, of course netcat can listen as well :) thanks |
| 21:45.41 | white_magic | is that something you use? |
| 21:46.02 | wols | white_magic: not for starting a X client from terminal as in your case |
| 21:46.50 | white_magic | i see |
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| 21:47.58 | white_magic | ok, so i guess the ampersand just launches a process in a subshell |
| 21:48.19 | wols | no. in the background |
| 21:48.39 | white_magic | how is that different? |
| 21:48.51 | tensorpudding | it's still attached to the shell |
| 21:48.56 | white_magic | err wait, you're right, that's what it says in the bash man page |
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| 21:48.58 | tensorpudding | it sends its output |
| 21:49.13 | tensorpudding | and it counts as a running job in the current shell |
| 21:49.25 | tensorpudding | you have to disown it to remove it from the shell that spawned it |
| 21:49.38 | white_magic | how would i do that? |
| 21:49.42 | white_magic | just for curiosity |
| 21:49.53 | white_magic | bash kill? |
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| 21:49.57 | tensorpudding | no |
| 21:49.59 | tensorpudding | disown |
| 21:50.00 | Juul | tell it you don't love it anymore |
| 21:50.03 | white_magic | lol |
| 21:50.06 | namtorba | man bash? |
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| 21:58.23 | Iridos | white_magic, search for JOB CONTROL |
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| 21:59.20 | white_magic | yea i came across it in bash's manual |
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| 22:04.41 | white_magic | if i'm trying to add a repository, like ppa:foo/bar, what should it look like in /etc/apt/sources.list? Just 'deb foo/bar'? |
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| 22:06.14 | Wicket | So. Some more details now. After changing mobo, I boot, get passed grub and reach "Loading, please wait..." and after 10 seconds or so, it says "Gave up waiting for root device", lists some common problems (which i dont believe apply), and it says "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/56825....... does not exist. It tries to drop me into shell, but /bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off. |
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| 22:06.56 | Black_Prince | Wicket, have you modified initramfs configuration files? |
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| 22:07.53 | thewanderer1 | Wicket: no job control is not a major error, your shell should be working from then on, allowing to examine the situation |
| 22:07.58 | Wicket | It worked fine, then i changed motherboard, now this. I figured maybe that UUID in grub was wrong, so I booted onto this usb stick and checked, the UUID seems to match. |
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| 22:08.23 | IRConan | any PAM experts around? if I've included a common config file, can I pass the original service name as part of the config to a module? |
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| 22:09.15 | Wicket | thewanderer1: Well, it seems I cant. I should add that it did say "(initramfs)" on the next line. No reaction from the keyboard. |
| 22:09.26 | Black_Prince | Wicket, if you changed motherboard there may be possibility that (S)ATA controller is different from previous one, and drivers for that controller are not included in intramfs. |
| 22:09.35 | thewanderer1 | Wicket: USB keyboard? |
| 22:09.43 | Wicket | Yes. Works in grub. |
| 22:10.05 | thewanderer1 | it doesn't necessarily have to work in Linux... I think GRUB has USB drivers by now |
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| 22:10.14 | tharkun | People, is there a way to tell grep to paste the line that matches and the previous one? |
| 22:10.24 | Wicket | Black_Prince: which would mean, reinstall? |
| 22:10.39 | thewanderer1 | Wicket: re-generate your initramfs |
| 22:10.39 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: man grep; see -A, -B, and -C |
| 22:10.41 | Black_Prince | Wicket, just regenerating initramfs |
| 22:11.04 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: thx |
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| 22:12.24 | Wicket | So regenerating this should be possible from a debian netinstall usb stick? |
| 22:13.13 | thewanderer1 | yes |
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| 22:26.32 | Wicket | So, just to be sure, update-initramfs is the stuff i'm looking for right? Would it be possible to do it from this (somewhat) old ubuntu live usb stick? I'm having a bit of trouble just getting the debian installer on the only stick I could find.. |
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| 22:27.08 | Orholam | hello |
| 22:27.12 | Orholam | does anyone know how to get the iceweasel version of mozilla 6? |
| 22:28.53 | MrFrood | Orholam: mozilla.debain.net - you want release |
| 22:29.22 | nameless` | i created a script but when i install a package i got "script missing LSB and override" i compared with the other one but i don't understand the line . /lib/lsb/init-functions |
| 22:29.25 | MrFrood | s/mozilla.debain.net/mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 22:30.08 | th0r | nameless`: you need to install the linux standard base, but I doubt that will end your problems |
| 22:31.21 | Orholam | thanks MrFrood, do I need to go there to download, or can I add it as a source? |
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| 22:31.49 | MrFrood | add as a source - instructions there |
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| 22:36.38 | mrtnt | At the moment there should be 1937 packages in the "contrib" archive. Is it somehow possible to list them all? |
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| 22:38.41 | thewanderer1 | Wicket: yes, you need update-initramfs while chrooted for that |
| 22:39.26 | thewanderer1 | nameless`: did you skip the LSB header in a script? you should use skeleton (/etc/init.d/skeleton) for writing init scripts. |
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| 22:52.48 | grippi | hey all -- quick question about iptables |
| 22:52.58 | grippi | does iptables support URL's as well as ip's? |
| 22:53.21 | grippi | i'm currently dealing with trying to allow a url through that does not have a static ip |
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| 23:03.53 | lotus-blade | is there a good guide on how to install ati cards on squeeze amd64? |
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| 23:06.40 | thewanderer1 | grippi: netfilter only supports layer 2/3/4 matching, it does not understand the concept of "URL" |
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| 23:07.21 | grippi | thewanderer1 boo |
| 23:07.28 | grippi | is there any way to get around that? |
| 23:07.32 | ubuking | Hi anyone succeed launch openbox from Qingy ? |
| 23:07.50 | thewanderer1 | grippi: you can add a rule where the address is a DNS-resolved name, but it will be resolved by glibc at insert time, not runtime (since there is no glibc in the kernel...) |
| 23:08.13 | grippi | i see |
| 23:08.33 | thewanderer1 | grippi: use an ipset and refresh it periodically or enforce a transparent proxy like Squid which allows you to specify access control |
| 23:09.21 | thewanderer1 | (won't work with HTTPS I suppose, since that's encrypted - you could get domain matching at best, but based on rDNS only...) |
| 23:09.34 | grippi | yeah |
| 23:09.37 | grippi | squid seems interesting |
| 23:09.38 | grippi | thanks! |
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| 23:18.00 | Orholam | does anyone know of a good svn program for debian? |
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| 23:18.13 | Corey | Orholam: Aye, matey! "svn" |
| 23:18.44 | Orholam | huh Corey? |
| 23:19.26 | Orholam | so 'svn' is already included in debian Corey? |
| 23:19.32 | Corey | Orholam: If ye "apt-get install subversion" ye'll have a comely lass named /usr/bin/svn |
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| 23:21.07 | Orholam | does it have a GUI Corey |
| 23:21.46 | Corey | Orholam: No, matey-- but ye did say ye was asking for a good program, not a bloated whale carcass, ye landlubber! |
| 23:22.16 | Orholam | yeah yeah, I am not a code nut |
| 23:22.27 | Orholam | I use tortise svn on windows |
| 23:22.32 | Orholam | its a shell extension |
| 23:23.53 | th0r | Orholam: a google of 'svn gui for linux' turns up a few suggestions |
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| 23:24.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | as does 'apt-cache search svn gui' |
| 23:25.00 | Bushmills | you can find the url of google in bing |
| 23:25.36 | Juul | looks at #debian and realizes it's Talk like a pirate day |
| 23:25.41 | Juul | avast! |
| 23:25.49 | th0r | please no |
| 23:25.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | :o |
| 23:26.02 | Orholam | I found one in the package manager called rapid svn |
| 23:26.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm, that was yesterday |
| 23:26.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | well, 4 minutes left, utc *g* |
| 23:26.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | *34 |
| 23:27.43 | Juul | btw, I thought the official recommendation from debian is to use aptitude and not apt-get |
| 23:27.54 | Juul | but i still see people recommending apt-get all over the interwebs |
| 23:28.13 | Juul | what gives... mateys |
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| 23:29.31 | Orholam | what is apttitude Juul? |
| 23:29.52 | Juul | Orholam, does the same as apt-get, but better. |
| 23:30.11 | Orholam | how's it better? |
| 23:30.26 | Juul | as I understand it, apt-get was written as a quick demo of the capabilities of libapt and was never intended for general use |
| 23:30.28 | Orholam | so would I type aptitude instead of apt-get |
| 23:30.32 | th0r | Orholam: it doesn't have a hyphen |
| 23:30.58 | MrFrood | apptitude knows how to party |
| 23:31.15 | Juul | well aptitude can give you different options for how to resolve issues with conflicting packages |
| 23:31.35 | white_magic | I need some help in figuring this out - i needed to add 'http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main' to my sources list in order to install keepass2. After doing so, the update manager is now offering over 9000 updates.. how can I deselect them all? Is it possible to have the repo available for apt purposes but not have update manager constantly bug me about available updates? |
| 23:31.45 | Juul | aptitude automatically removes packages that are no longer needed (but maybe apt-get does that too?) |
| 23:32.18 | th0r | white_magic: you need to decide, run sid or don't. Won't keepassx do just as well? |
| 23:32.42 | white_magic | no, keepassx doesn't support some older password db format |
| 23:32.49 | white_magic | i have the latest version of keepass on my win machine |
| 23:32.56 | white_magic | i'd like to share the pw db file among pcs |
| 23:33.09 | thewanderer1 | !tell white_magic about pinning |
| 23:33.53 | Juul | white_magic, also maybe look at: http://blog.wains.be/2008/06/05/debian-how-to-keep-a-mixed-system/ |
| 23:34.22 | white_magic | i think the how is is to comment out the sid repo line in sources.list when not needed |
| 23:34.29 | white_magic | and to use sid packages sparingly |
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| 23:35.17 | thewanderer1 | ,versions keepass2 |
| 23:35.17 | judd | Package keepass2 on i386 -- sid: 2.16+dfsg-1; wheezy: 2.16+dfsg-1 |
| 23:35.34 | white_magic | btw.. considering how stable debian is, isn't it fair to consider sid to be stable as a practical matter? |
| 23:35.41 | white_magic | compared to what ubuntu considers stable anyway lol |
| 23:35.54 | thewanderer1 | white_magic: go setup sid in a VM, you're going to see fireworks :) |
| 23:35.54 | Juul | white_magic, your mileage may vary |
| 23:36.29 | thewanderer1 | during testing freezes, sid also tends to be more stable, but right now it's more of a mess :P |
| 23:36.31 | white_magic | i think you might mean that quite literally - i recall seeing some people using a debian-like system (maybe some ubuntu build) with fireworks-like window effects |
| 23:36.35 | white_magic | unless.. |
| 23:36.38 | white_magic | it really is unstable :p |
| 23:37.18 | th0r | white_magic: right, testing and experimental are just states of mind |
| 23:37.54 | Juul | don't install anything if you haven't read and understood the sourcecode! |
| 23:38.01 | white_magic | i wont |
| 23:38.05 | Juul | :P |
| 23:38.17 | white_magic | i went to debian because i got tired of ubuntu's bloat. i only get what i need and if i understand what it does |
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| 23:39.52 | mns | Anyone know a good DNS host ? Preferabbly free, but if I have to pay some fee I do not mind. |
| 23:40.11 | thewanderer1 | mns: dns.he.net ... also, this is way off topic here ;P |
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| 23:44.09 | mns | thewanderer1: yueah I know its off-topic but I figure people in here will have better recomendations from personal experience, rather then google :) |
| 23:44.23 | mns | thewanderer1: I'll check them out. thanks. |
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| 23:49.37 | harovali | hi, is there a way to preconfigure the proportions of disk that the installer automatically assigns to /home , /usr, /, /tmp ? |
| 23:50.26 | harovali | I know I can assign them manually, but I'd like to know if the proportions are hardcoded or are configurable in the automatic partitioner |
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| 23:59.24 | qmr | quick, recommend me a nice lightweight wm to change my life |
| 23:59.51 | qmr | something with a dock. and when I take screenshots, it should make me look like a leet oldskool unix hacker |
| 23:59.56 | qmr | afterstep? D: |