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| 00:00.24 | n-iCe | ok I am in problems |
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| 00:00.29 | n-iCe | I use testing 32 bits |
| 00:00.57 | user | grub-mkconfig made a nice config file for me |
| 00:01.12 | kuznetzvo-afk | it's been a long time since i did grub from scratch... i don't know what has changed =p |
| 00:01.16 | abrotman | did you try update-grub and grub-install ? |
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| 00:02.17 | user | abrotman, i tried grub-install but not update-grub, it seemed to have worked does it write to the mbr? |
| 00:02.31 | abrotman | no, tha'ts what grub-install is for |
| 00:02.35 | user | doh |
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| 00:04.17 | user | when i try a dpkg -i grub-installer i get failed dependencies for cdebconf-udeb but i can't find a package like that in pool |
| 00:04.28 | user | it seems to be a package only used in installation |
| 00:04.40 | simonlnu | it's an installer package. see the .udeb ? |
| 00:05.04 | user | simonlnu, i do can i install it temporarily on the base system? |
| 00:05.11 | simonlnu | (in the file name) |
| 00:05.41 | user | can't find it anywhere on the dvd though |
| 00:06.18 | simonlnu | pool/main/c/cdebconf |
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| 00:07.03 | user | that has cdebconf-text and two more but it fails dependencies |
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| 00:08.09 | simonlnu | i don't know if it'll be on the disk... it should be however. |
| 00:08.35 | user | simonlnu, cdebconf-text-entropy depends on cdebconf-text-udeb but i can't find that |
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| 00:11.28 | simonlnu | here, on the main mirror, it's at: debian/pool/main/c/cdebconf/ |
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| 00:11.42 | xpL | :> |
| 00:12.04 | simonlnu | dunno what's up with that disk if it's not there.. i suppose you could go fetch it manually |
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| 00:12.35 | n-iCe | I have this problem installing irssi, irssi : Depends: libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:12.43 | n-iCe | Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 |
| 00:12.51 | n-iCe | But I have tried lot of packages and I already have them |
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| 00:13.04 | simonlnu | that's what you get for mixing debian versions ;p |
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| 00:14.03 | user | this is silly i'm uploading package by package on a usb drive then putting it on this broken system it's not fun |
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| 00:16.54 | abrotman | you could have just installed stable ... |
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| 00:17.23 | cnz | im trying to figure out why I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/Wt2jksqZ when trying to upgrade to wheezy, anyone have any ideas? |
| 00:17.28 | kuznetzvo-afk | i manually built a .deb for squid with --enable-ssl set in the flags... and at some point later, when sedated, ran a aptitude full-upgrade.. i fucked myself, didn't i |
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| 00:18.25 | gnarface | kuznetzvo-afk: did you delete the .deb you created? |
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| 00:18.54 | kuznetzvo-afk | just have to install it over the top, eh? |
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| 00:19.40 | c3po | Hi was wondering if there is a reason the Eclipse is not included in Wheeze. I only use the main repo. |
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| 00:20.33 | c3po | Is there some license problem with Eclipse. |
| 00:20.37 | abrotman | nope |
| 00:20.51 | abrotman | cnz: there are no security updates for wheezy yet |
| 00:20.59 | abrotman | or whatever that is |
| 00:21.02 | n-iCe | simonlnu: mixing? |
| 00:21.05 | abrotman | cnz: paste your sources.list |
| 00:21.29 | abrotman | c3po: it is in sid |
| 00:21.30 | n-iCe | abrotman: with stable my mic doesn't work have been in here for 3 days asking and googling, just doesn't work |
| 00:21.33 | c3po | abrotman, I installed it on Ubuntu once and remember some "I agree" thing when I installed it. |
| 00:21.35 | abrotman | dpkg: why is eclipse not in testing |
| 00:21.35 | dpkg | eclipse is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=eclipse |
| 00:21.39 | abrotman | n-iCe: okay? |
| 00:21.52 | abrotman | judd: versions eclipse |
| 00:21.54 | judd | Package eclipse on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.2-6squeeze2; sid: 3.5.2-11; experimental: 3.6.2~exp-1; experimental: 3.7~exp-5 |
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| 00:22.08 | n-iCe | what can I do then? with Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 |
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| 00:22.14 | cnz | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/z529h9HU |
| 00:22.15 | c3po | abrotman, actually I am using testing and need to work on some of the code in Debian for bugs |
| 00:22.37 | abrotman | c3po: okay, i'm still saying that eclipse isn't in testing (yet) .. what kind of coding is this ? |
| 00:23.01 | abrotman | cnz: comment out 13 and 14 .. then run your update again |
| 00:23.04 | c3po | abrotman, C mostly for Gnome. |
| 00:23.30 | abrotman | judd: info anjuta --release wheezy |
| 00:23.33 | judd | Package anjuta (gnome, optional) in wheezy/i386: GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. Version: 2:3.0.3.0-3; Size: 2091.9k; Installed: 4588k; Homepage: http://www.anjuta.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/anjuta |
| 00:23.35 | abrotman | would tha twork ? |
| 00:23.47 | c3po | abrotman, there are some bad bugs that are in Gnomes vfs |
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| 00:24.33 | cnz | abrotman: that worked thanks |
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| 00:24.43 | cnz | now I just do apt-get dist-upgrade right |
| 00:24.48 | abrotman | if oyu're lucky |
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| 00:25.13 | cnz | lol why if im lucky |
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| 00:26.07 | c3po | abrotman, Or should I say the way Iceweasel uses gnomes vfs. Ill wait for it to come out of sid. |
| 00:26.21 | c3po | Eclipse that is |
| 00:26.44 | cnz | abrotman: thanks for the help |
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| 00:27.07 | cnz | ho one last questsion do I need atd running? |
| 00:27.19 | muneeb | how can i copy privileges of one user to the newly created user? |
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| 00:29.03 | neil_lenny | Hi, I am having trouble with samba ... :-( ... see http://pastebin.com/pUh6ZuUM for netstat and config... the machine host can be pinged but it isn't showing up in the 'Windows Network' ... can anyone help? |
| 00:29.40 | Bushmills | add new user to same groups. that gives new user at least same group permissions. |
| 00:30.35 | Bushmills | cnz: "need" - what for? when not using at, you don't need atd |
| 00:30.54 | Bushmills | but the inverse is true too |
| 00:31.51 | Bushmills | i guess a similar question is "do you need a computer?" |
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| 00:40.39 | n-iCe | anyone? irssi : Depends: libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 |
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| 00:43.12 | c3po | abrotman yup Eclipse is in Squeeze and Sid but not testing. Spend most of my time are Arch. Is there a way to backport Eclipse? |
| 00:43.36 | abrotman | c3po: /msg dpkg ssb .. good luck! |
| 00:43.41 | MrFrood | n-iCe: which release of Debian are you using? |
| 00:44.05 | n-iCe | testing 32bits |
| 00:46.22 | MrFrood | n-iCe: well there is a reasion its called testing |
| 00:46.31 | gnarface | ,versions emerald |
| 00:46.31 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'emerald' was found in i386. |
| 00:46.35 | gnarface | tragic |
| 00:46.37 | n-iCe | MrFrood: sure, can it be fixed? |
| 00:46.54 | MrFrood | n-iCe: "Packages providing perlapi-5.10.1 |
| 00:46.58 | MrFrood | perl-base" |
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| 00:47.32 | n-iCe | E: Package 'perlapi-5.10.1' has no installation candidate |
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| 00:48.08 | MrFrood | n-iCe: try installing perl-base |
| 00:48.21 | n-iCe | it is installed |
| 00:48.34 | n-iCe | perl-base is already the newest version. |
| 00:48.50 | MrFrood | looks like you need to file a bug report then |
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| 00:56.38 | gthing | You mean, just remove the symlink to rc2.d by typing rm /etc/rc2.d, or rm /etc/rc2.d/exim4 |
| 00:56.43 | gthing | ok I didn't know where it was, thanks |
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| 00:57.01 | DebianUserMark | Hello I would like to know how to remove my windows partition and add the space to my debain partition? |
| 00:58.09 | leefan | gparted should be fine? |
| 00:58.24 | DebianUserMark | is it in the repos |
| 00:58.28 | MrHatter | my squeeze install appears to be on some sort of loop when trying to perform an aptitude safe-ugrade - it has been doing this for over an hour how, what to do ? |
| 00:58.30 | leefan | i believe so |
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| 00:58.35 | phenom | Anyone have a recommendation for a web ssh server? Ajaxterm, Anyterm, Webshell, Shell in a box.. |
| 00:59.02 | MrHatter | conflict is continually saying :34 and open is rotatating between :117,118,119 |
| 01:00.05 | kuznetzvo-afk | marhatter: sacrifice a chicken or goat to the gods of Deutschland and pray for Wols to appear |
| 01:00.20 | kuznetzvo-afk | if i had any reasonable idea, i'd tell you |
| 01:00.31 | kuznetzvo-afk | but i'm a newb trying to learn ;) |
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| 01:01.07 | owen1 | many commands asks me to be sudo. ifconfig is one of them. how to run them without it? |
| 01:02.59 | Bushmills | by not trying to run them as user. instead run them as root. |
| 01:03.09 | kuznetzvo-afk | ^ your choices are really su or sudo... |
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| 01:03.16 | kuznetzvo-afk | [sensible choices] |
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| 01:03.36 | Bushmills | or logging in as root, into a VC, for example |
| 01:06.25 | rypervenche | It doesn't hurt to press 5 keys more :/ |
| 01:06.57 | kuznetzvo-afk | and if it does, we just need to petition debian to allow some kind of comprehensive narcotic benefits package for contributors.. |
| 01:07.09 | kuznetzvo-afk | </social> |
| 01:07.43 | vivid | is it possible to change the owner of a file/directory to a group of users? |
| 01:07.51 | kuznetzvo-afk | i've done it |
| 01:08.27 | Bushmills | as in "change group ownership to a different group"? yes. possible. |
| 01:08.41 | vivid | no as in, have all the members of a specific group own the directory |
| 01:09.08 | abrotman | vivid: you can change group ownership .. |
| 01:09.11 | Bushmills | that what group ownership is all about |
| 01:09.11 | vivid | they have write access, but cant actually run anything because they "are not the owner" |
| 01:09.26 | abrotman | sticky bits? |
| 01:09.26 | vivid | so how would i go about that |
| 01:09.40 | Bushmills | change group permissions |
| 01:09.47 | abrotman | !permissions |
| 01:09.47 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
| 01:09.57 | centHOGG | velcomen to linux |
| 01:10.23 | vivid | yea, so for example, ive tried several things, chown -R :<group> <dir> ..... chgrp <grp> <dir> ..... etc |
| 01:10.49 | Bushmills | must be in your "etc" |
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| 01:11.45 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 01:14.04 | vivid | yea, ive already read the man pages on that stuff, thanks anyway |
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| 01:14.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | This has probably been asked many times, but is it possible to change the gnome menu applet icon? I've done some reading and can't find a working method.Im on squeeze. |
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| 01:16.22 | blast_hardcheese | So, I've got this really weird problem |
| 01:16.33 | centHOGG | yeh |
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| 01:16.53 | dracmas | have you tried right clicking then properties. Havent used gnome in a few week so I'm not for certain. |
| 01:17.01 | blast_hardcheese | claws-mail's font (same with window decoration fonts in chromium, etc) are all huge |
| 01:17.03 | dracmas | over the icon |
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| 01:17.27 | blast_hardcheese | claws-mail is nearly unusable at this size |
| 01:18.08 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: the debian circle? |
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| 01:18.33 | Parsind | linux.com/.org are down |
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| 01:18.50 | abrotman | okay, why are you telling us? |
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| 01:19.34 | blast_hardcheese | abrotman: If you're referring to me, I was just about to get to my question when somebody walked in to my office |
| 01:19.37 | Parsind | for you to do domething about it |
| 01:20.07 | blast_hardcheese | oh, serves me right to miss some scrollback. Disregard. |
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| 01:20.26 | abrotman | blast_hardcheese: no, i wasn't |
| 01:20.29 | abrotman | Parsind: you're in the wrong channel |
| 01:20.32 | blast_hardcheese | abrotman: Yeah, sorry about that :) |
| 01:20.35 | Bushmills | Parsind: linux.com/org is down. now you can do something about it too :) |
| 01:20.51 | abrotman | Parsind: we have notihng to do with those websites .. do you have a Debian question ? |
| 01:21.02 | Parsind | so much foe linux uptime ... |
| 01:21.25 | Parsind | arent they running debian? |
| 01:21.26 | abrotman | Parsind: do you have a Debian question, or are you just here to troll ? |
| 01:21.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Yeah the debian swirl beside applications menu. |
| 01:21.45 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: the cheating way? replace the icon in the filesystem |
| 01:21.55 | Parsind | troll ? are you kidding me? |
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| 01:22.24 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Which one works though? I was just playing in gksu nautilus and couldnt get the right one. |
| 01:22.53 | abrotman | there are two different ones on my system .. |
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| 01:23.14 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: i'm sure if you google enough, you can find the method |
| 01:23.33 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Yeah thats what I thought too. |
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| 01:24.00 | abrotman | http://binarypirate.blogspot.com/2007/08/change-gnome-menu-icon.html ? |
| 01:24.13 | abrotman | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=14877 ? |
| 01:27.06 | owen1 | Bushmills: kuznetzvo-afk interesting. i am not used to run sudo on ifconfig, since on ubuntu it was not needed. |
| 01:27.15 | blast_hardcheese | So, I answered my own question; Turns out Gnome has a "DPI" setting. |
| 01:27.20 | blast_hardcheese | it was set way too high. |
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| 01:29.11 | Parsind | WE ARE RETURNING SOON!!!! they say at the linux.org site |
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| 01:29.17 | Parsind | what a bunch of trolls |
| 01:29.44 | blast_hardcheese | Trolls..? |
| 01:29.50 | blast_hardcheese | Maybe they're having hardware issues |
| 01:29.59 | Parsind | yes writing all in caps isnt polite |
| 01:30.35 | Bushmills | owen1: ifconfig is an administration tool, considered not extremely useful for users to run |
| 01:31.21 | Parsind | i always used that |
| 01:32.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: Yeah I read those already. No go. Those are old outdated methods from what I can see. |
| 01:32.08 | Parsind | ifconfig is the best privacy tool |
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| 01:33.20 | Bushmills | if a user has to, he can still do /sbin/ifconfig |
| 01:33.37 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: did you ask #gnome on irc.gnome.org ? |
| 01:33.58 | abrotman | Parsind: please go away unless you have something related to Debian to talk about |
| 01:34.11 | Parsind | gnome have theyr own irc network ... |
| 01:34.26 | Parsind | i guess freenode isnt good engough for them |
| 01:34.32 | dracmas | I do know it's one of the rightclick options where you can change it LinuxGuy |
| 01:34.36 | abrotman | Parsind: do you have a Debian question? |
| 01:35.02 | dracmas | If you can wait I guess I can install it |
| 01:35.10 | Parsind | yes when will the new debian release gona be unleashed? |
| 01:35.22 | dracmas | gnome2 or 3? |
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| 01:35.44 | abrotman | Parsind: when it's ready, sooner if you help |
| 01:35.46 | dracmas | wait should have asked that first...dont know how 3 works |
| 01:36.15 | Parsind | belive me ... you dont want my help |
| 01:36.18 | abrotman | dracmas: gnome3 isn't really in Debian yet |
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| 01:36.38 | abrotman | Parsind: please go play somewhere else, you're not here for help, and you're certainly not helping |
| 01:36.40 | dracmas | you never know |
| 01:36.41 | centHOGG | there's about 400million other distros as well |
| 01:37.29 | jasonsmr | does anyone here use qemu, and can tell me why I cant doot using >>qemu-system-mipsl -M malta -nographic -kernel boot/vmlinux-2.6.32-5-4kc-malta |
| 01:37.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman:I can try but Ill probably get more response from talking to the wall. |
| 01:37.55 | jasonsmr | however I CAN using >qemu-system-mipsl -M malta -nographic -kernel boot/vmlinux-2.6.32-5-4kc-malta |
| 01:38.09 | jasonsmr | I dont know enough about the archirecture |
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| 02:02.05 | unomystEz | I'm running Debian 5 (I believe) on a VPS and a lot of packages are being held back even after `apt-get dist-upgrade`, I'm assuming it's because the pkgs are no longer available on lenny, is it safe to changes sources.list to point to squeeze? |
| 02:02.25 | centHOGG | how |
| 02:02.31 | abrotman | unomystEz: pastebin to show us |
| 02:02.41 | unomystEz | pastebin what exactly? |
| 02:02.51 | Arrowmaster | not unless you are going to upgrade the entire system to squeeze, which depending on your VPS provider might be difficult |
| 02:02.56 | unomystEz | hmm |
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| 02:03.02 | unomystEz | Arrowmaster, that's what I was thinking.. |
| 02:03.08 | unomystEz | I think it's using custom kernels and configs |
| 02:03.37 | abrotman | unomystEz: pastebin what is held back |
| 02:03.43 | unomystEz | yup, hold on |
| 02:03.51 | abrotman | unomystEz: and your sources.list please |
| 02:03.54 | unomystEz | http://dpaste.com/614469/ |
| 02:03.57 | spott | Hello, I'm trying to connect a radio modems to a debian box, via ax.25. I know the modem works, I can connect to it with the serial port, but when I try kissattach and axlisten, it doesn't display anything the modem is receiving. I'm running squeeze, fresh install a few days ago. Anyone familiar with linux and 1x.25, that could help me sort this? |
| 02:04.29 | spott | *ax.25, i mean |
| 02:04.30 | unomystEz | http://dpaste.com/614470/ |
| 02:04.40 | unomystEz | there's sources.list and `apt-get dist-upgrade` output |
| 02:04.48 | abrotman | unomystEz: mixing lenny with stable security ... not awesome |
| 02:05.00 | unomystEz | abrotman: agreed |
| 02:05.10 | unomystEz | sorry, I'm relatively new to Debian |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | unomystEz: change the 'stable' to 'lenny' .. apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:05.25 | unomystEz | should I just make everything stable/updates main? |
| 02:05.30 | abrotman | uh .. no |
| 02:05.31 | unomystEz | ok |
| 02:05.35 | abrotman | that woujld be very bad |
| 02:05.36 | abrotman | and ugly |
| 02:05.37 | unomystEz | heh |
| 02:05.39 | abrotman | and violent |
| 02:05.40 | unomystEz | =p |
| 02:06.29 | unomystEz | so just "stable/updates" -> "lenny" right? |
| 02:06.43 | unomystEz | or more precisely, s:stable/updates:lenny: |
| 02:06.43 | unomystEz | ? |
| 02:06.51 | abrotman | no .. lenny/updates |
| 02:06.57 | unomystEz | ok |
| 02:07.02 | abrotman | is pretty sure he said to change 'stable' to 'lenny' .. |
| 02:07.11 | unomystEz | just wanted to be explicit |
| 02:07.41 | unomystEz | awesome, it's working |
| 02:07.44 | unomystEz | thanks |
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| 02:07.53 | unomystEz | you guys are awesome btw.. very happy to be a Debian user |
| 02:08.19 | abrotman | even if it is lenny .. on a vps ... |
| 02:08.20 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:08.23 | gnarface | we're not awesome. everyone else just SUCKS SO FUCKING HARD |
| 02:08.44 | unomystEz | it's debian 5.0 (I guess right?) on Linode |
| 02:08.50 | unomystEz | 32bit as well |
| 02:08.54 | gnarface | yes that's lenny |
| 02:08.58 | unomystEz | ok |
| 02:09.10 | user | abrotman, i'm back trying to follow your advice I found a mobo that can boot off usb, got the live cd image did cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb1 but can't boot off the drive for some reason |
| 02:09.11 | unomystEz | I should probably get around to upgrading it eventually |
| 02:09.23 | gnarface | wtf is up with all these vps isp's still distributing lenny? |
| 02:09.31 | gnarface | didn't they get the memo? |
| 02:09.37 | unomystEz | I just haven't upgraded it |
| 02:09.56 | gnarface | oh, i've seen a few isps still distributing it as the default install. |
| 02:10.06 | Arrowmaster | its mostly because they are container based vps's running on an older host kernel |
| 02:10.13 | linuxguy | hi.i need a litlle help.i have wheezy installed, win 7 on a separate partition..but now i only can bot to win 7.ive gottrn hold of a debian live-dvd.but now do not what to type in as root to reinstall grub2 |
| 02:10.18 | lemon24 | hello! |
| 02:10.25 | user | but i have another linux live usb image which boots fine |
| 02:10.31 | lemon24 | i have a problem: i disabled fuse with rcconf and now i cant enable it back. i check the box, i press ok, but when i run rcconf again, the box is unchecked. |
| 02:10.40 | Arrowmaster | if it was a proper vps using something like xen then it wouldnt matter what you installed on it |
| 02:10.41 | lemon24 | i can enable/disable other services (like avahi-daemon). thanks in advance for your help! :D |
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| 02:11.29 | Arrowmaster | unomystEz: oh if you are using linode then you can upgrade without any problems |
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| 02:11.48 | unomystEz | Arrowmaster, how do you mean? |
| 02:11.56 | unomystEz | upgrade via their interface or via apt-get? |
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| 02:12.27 | Arrowmaster | i mean linode uses xen i believe, its the openvz and similar vps's that can cause problems when trying to upgrade |
| 02:12.53 | unomystEz | ah |
| 02:13.05 | abrotman | user: i doubt you meant sdb1 |
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| 02:13.09 | unomystEz | hnn |
| 02:13.10 | unomystEz | hmm |
| 02:13.20 | unomystEz | here's something a bit serious after the `apt-get dist-upgrade` |
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| 02:13.41 | unomystEz | I lost apache2 => http://dpaste.com/614474/ |
| 02:13.44 | user | abrotman, it is the usb stick device |
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| 02:14.10 | gnarface | unomystEz: did you fully update lenny first? |
| 02:14.15 | user | /dev/sdb1 752M 752M 0 100% /media/Debian squeeze 20110827-22:33 |
| 02:14.24 | unomystEz | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:14.34 | abrotman | user: you meant /dev/sdb .. almost guaranteed |
| 02:14.47 | gnarface | unomystEz: when you ran that, you still had lenny in your sources, right? |
| 02:14.54 | unomystEz | yes |
| 02:15.02 | abrotman | unomystEz: you probably want to try using aptitude |
| 02:15.09 | unomystEz | ? |
| 02:15.12 | abrotman | apt-get has poor issue resolution |
| 02:15.14 | unomystEz | what's the difference anyway |
| 02:15.19 | unomystEz | aptitude > apt-get ? |
| 02:15.29 | gnarface | aptitude tries harder to fix collisions for you |
| 02:15.54 | user | abrotman, i wasn't meant to specify the partition? |
| 02:16.00 | unomystEz | uh oh |
| 02:16.03 | unomystEz | check this out |
| 02:16.15 | unomystEz | http://dpaste.com/614476/ |
| 02:16.18 | unomystEz | basically removing everything |
| 02:17.03 | user | abrotman, totally makes sense thanks! |
| 02:17.15 | abrotman | unomystEz: try aptitude install apache2 |
| 02:17.39 | abrotman | unomystEz: in short, you installed stuff from squeeze .. your system is 'mixed' .. mixing is bad, makes baby jesus cry |
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| 02:17.51 | unomystEz | ah |
| 02:18.02 | unomystEz | but will they be reinstalled? |
| 02:18.08 | unomystEz | i can't lose vim, etc.. |
| 02:18.11 | unomystEz | and xinit |
| 02:19.03 | abrotman | you can .. try it .. aptitude install vim |
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| 02:19.10 | unomystEz | heh |
| 02:19.20 | unomystEz | but there are like 100 packages I will have to reinstall |
| 02:19.31 | abrotman | sooner or later .. you'll hit the magic package |
| 02:19.33 | abrotman | !which repo |
| 02:19.33 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list> |
| 02:20.09 | user | is it me or does eject not work with device names with spaces |
| 02:21.02 | abrotman | escape ? |
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| 02:22.27 | user | abrotman, doesn't think it's a block device with escapes |
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| 02:22.42 | abrotman | huh? |
| 02:23.19 | linuxguy | hi.i need a litlle help.i have wheezy installed, win 7 on a separate partition..but now i only can bot to win 7.ive gottrn hold of a debian live-dvd.but now do not what to type in as root to reinstall grub2 |
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| 02:24.12 | user | http://dpaste.com/614478/ |
| 02:24.47 | ahmad | linuxguy: now u r in debian ?? i mean live |
| 02:25.31 | abrotman | ahmad: please use english in this channel |
| 02:25.40 | linuxguy | ahmad, yes.from the lice dvd i was told to get hold of, so i can re-install grub2 |
| 02:25.53 | linuxguy | oops live dvd |
| 02:26.12 | ahmad | abrotman: NOW YOU ARE IN DEBIAN ?? that's what ?? Francais ?? |
| 02:26.24 | abrotman | ahmad: not amused |
| 02:26.34 | ahmad | ;) |
| 02:27.12 | ahmad | linuxguy: ok , what about the output of fdisk -l ?? |
| 02:28.17 | abrotman | linuxguy: see what dpkg told you .. that may help |
| 02:28.54 | ahmad | abrotman: more explan. please . :) |
| 02:29.03 | abrotman | i wasn't telling you? |
| 02:29.09 | linuxguy | ahmad, nothing ........ all i know is the pc wil now only boot to win7 and not show wheezy and win7 in the grub menu |
| 02:29.43 | abrotman | linuxguy: in short, you have to use the liveCD to boot a linux, chroot, grub-install .. see what the dpkg bot told you |
| 02:29.46 | ahmad | ok , boot with live debian and give yourself a terminal :) |
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| 02:30.17 | ahmad | abrotman: ;) ... cool |
| 02:30.23 | abrotman | wtf |
| 02:31.19 | user | who knows... |
| 02:31.35 | spott | the shadow knows! |
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| 02:32.56 | user | alec baldwin? |
| 02:33.34 | abrotman | ahmad: do not msg me |
| 02:34.19 | rhenani | hello guys, I have a problem I have a file in this computer that I want to tranfers to another computer that is mine too and i have it here next to me it's a debian 32 bits machine version 6.02 with rsync installed |
| 02:34.20 | unomystEz | so should I be using aptitude or apt-get for my needs? |
| 02:34.46 | rhenani | the thing is that I'm using this comand: rsync -avP /home/rhenani/scripts/debian-squeze.sh rhenani@172.16.109.165:/home/rhenani/ |
| 02:35.08 | rhenani | and I got next error: ssh: connect to host 172.16.109.165 port 22: Connection refused |
| 02:35.11 | rhenani | rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] |
| 02:35.13 | rhenani | rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [sender=3.0.7] |
| 02:35.48 | abrotman | unomystEz: generally, i'd say to use aptitude .. there are certain operations that are better suited for apt-get .. |
| 02:35.49 | user | rhenani, do you have sshd running on that host? |
| 02:36.00 | unomystEz | abrotman, ok, thanks |
| 02:36.10 | abrotman | unomystEz: did you get it all sorted out ? |
| 02:36.17 | unomystEz | apparently |
| 02:36.23 | unomystEz | apache2 is complaining about shared libs missing though |
| 02:36.25 | unomystEz | and won't start |
| 02:36.36 | linuxguy | abrotman, using the fdisk -l command just puts be back user@debian~$ |
| 02:36.47 | rhenani | user: I have rsync installed but I don't think that i have ssh runing |
| 02:36.49 | unomystEz | how can I tell aptitude to reinstall ALL deps? |
| 02:37.01 | abrotman | linuxguy: i told you to read the bot message .. not whatever the other guy told you .. don't complain to me when his stuff fails |
| 02:37.09 | abrotman | unomystEz: all deps of what? |
| 02:37.13 | unomystEz | apache2 |
| 02:37.20 | rhenani | user: isn't ssh same with rsync?? |
| 02:37.27 | abrotman | linuxguy: again .. see what the bot told you |
| 02:37.39 | abrotman | unomystEz: you can easily aptitude show apache2 .. and then copy/paste |
| 02:38.55 | linuxguy | abrotman, yes i am readingwhat the bot says.im am trying to get my head around it |
| 02:39.21 | abrotman | doesn't see 'fdisk -l' in what the bot said ... |
| 02:39.58 | linuxguy | abrotman, it was from the other fella.im reading the bot stuff |
| 02:40.39 | user | rhenani, i think the default rsync shell is ssh in the newer versions |
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| 02:45.15 | rhenani | user: how do i make it work man? I think running the rsync in the new version will fix the problem |
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| 02:46.22 | linuxman410 | anyone here |
| 02:47.00 | DasEi | linuxman410: a 1048 just |
| 02:47.01 | dvs | !ask |
| 02:47.01 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:47.06 | th0r | linuxman410: no |
| 02:47.44 | DasEi | unomystEz: also dpkg -s apache2 gives it |
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| 02:48.03 | linuxman410 | do they have a verion 6 of debian with non free drivers |
| 02:48.42 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:49.01 | abrotman | !tell linuxman410 about firmware images |
| 02:49.13 | dvs | linuxman410: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 02:49.20 | dvs | oops |
| 02:49.21 | unomystEz | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "postgresql-8.4" |
| 02:49.32 | abrotman | judd: versions postgresql-8.4 |
| 02:49.33 | unomystEz | I'm guessing I need to add lenny-backports? |
| 02:49.33 | judd | Package postgresql-8.4 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 8.4.7-0squeeze2; squeeze: 8.4.8-0squeeze1; lenny-backports: 8.4.8-0squeeze2~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 8.4.8-0squeeze2; squeeze-updates: 8.4.8-0squeeze2; sid: 8.4.8-2; wheezy: 8.4.8-2 |
| 02:49.40 | abrotman | unomystEz: yes, if you want it |
| 02:49.43 | unomystEz | cool |
| 02:49.47 | unomystEz | thank you |
| 02:50.02 | unomystEz | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 02:50.04 | unomystEz | like that |
| 02:50.23 | unomystEz | don't want to inter-mix anymore =/ |
| 02:50.26 | abrotman | close, probably see backports.debian.org for the new URL |
| 02:50.31 | unomystEz | ok |
| 02:50.44 | MrRoy | I'm trying to install the fglrx drivers, I'm following the instructions on the debian wiki, but at the part where I must initialize a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with the "aticonfig --initial" command, I get a "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected" error |
| 02:50.51 | user | rhenani, get sshd up? |
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| 02:52.09 | abrotman | MrRoy: lspci -nn | grep VGA .. pastebin |
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| 02:52.19 | unomystEz | abrotman, don't really understand http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ I need to do the Pin: settings? |
| 02:52.30 | abrotman | nope |
| 02:52.33 | cnz | can anyone help me on what package I need to install to fix this error configure: error: could not find GNU make |
| 02:52.44 | MrRoy | abrotman: Nothing comes up |
| 02:53.03 | user | thanks abrotman, up and running |
| 02:53.07 | unomystEz | actually, I think I het it |
| 02:53.08 | abrotman | MrRoy: lspci -nn | grep -i vga ? |
| 02:53.21 | abrotman | tries to remember who user is .. :) |
| 02:53.34 | MrRoy | abrotman : "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:6739]" |
| 02:53.45 | abrotman | MrRoy: update-pciids .. run it again |
| 02:54.08 | user | abrotman, ah sorry i'm the guy who couldn't copy a deb iso to a flash drive like a tard |
| 02:54.24 | abrotman | user: FWIW, the install guide has easy-peasy instructions |
| 02:54.27 | MrRoy | abrotman: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Barts PRO [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series] [1002:6739] " |
| 02:54.50 | user | abrotman, yea i used the partition instead of device |
| 02:54.51 | abrotman | MrRoy: uhm .. unless there are backports for fgrlx, i'd guess that's what .. a few months old? |
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| 02:55.19 | user | i should really change my nick to something more memorable |
| 02:55.20 | abrotman | MrRoy: and i'd imagine the fgrlx that is in squeeze directly is too old |
| 02:55.26 | abrotman | user: like .. bubba |
| 02:55.47 | MrRoy | abrotman: The 6800 serie is almost a year old. |
| 02:56.14 | Guest99154 | oh poo |
| 02:56.21 | abrotman | Guest99154: the nick is owned by someone else |
| 02:56.27 | Guest99154 | yep |
| 02:56.55 | abrotman | Guest99154: how about "ZoltarSpeaks" ? :) |
| 02:57.03 | resus | haha |
| 02:57.22 | abrotman | MrRoy: what is the name of the fgrlx package? |
| 02:57.43 | abrotman | !tell MrRoy about bdo |
| 02:57.44 | resus | that's from that freaky friday clone |
| 02:57.51 | resus | it hink |
| 02:57.53 | abrotman | uh .. it's from Big |
| 02:57.59 | MrRoy | abrotman: I took fglrx-control and fglrx-driver like the wiki told me to |
| 02:58.01 | resus | right that one |
| 02:58.11 | abrotman | MrRoy: the driver at backports.debian.org would probably have a better chance of supporting your device |
| 02:58.31 | abrotman | notes that Big is not a Freaky Friday clone |
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| 02:59.30 | MrRoy | abrotman: Do I have to remove the two packages I installed first? |
| 02:59.30 | resus | didn't he trade places with a grown man? time to imdb |
| 02:59.44 | abrotman | MrRoy: nope |
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| 02:59.50 | abrotman | resus: not even close |
| 03:00.08 | gnarface | resus: off topic but no, he just got magically was granted a grown up body overnight |
| 03:00.21 | Dewi | both are about a child supernaturally becoming adult |
| 03:01.45 | resus | ok so the theme is a child struggling in an adult society in both |
| 03:01.59 | MrRoy | abrotman: Then I repeat the instructions on the wiki, but now it will download from the backports? |
| 03:02.20 | resus | not a clone though i take it back |
| 03:02.34 | abrotman | MrRoy: i would imagine so .. if you issue the command correctly .. so probably something like `aptitude -t squeeze-backports install fglrx-driver fglrx-control' |
| 03:03.20 | MrRoy | abrotman: it tells me 2 are not upgraded and won't install them |
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| 03:03.46 | abrotman | MrRoy: pastebin |
| 03:04.03 | MrRoy | abrotman: Just this : "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. " |
| 03:04.48 | abrotman | MrRoy: aptitude full-upgrade ? |
| 03:06.34 | MrRoy | abrotman: It upgraded the two not upgraded but apparantly they had nothing to do with fglrx |
| 03:07.10 | MrRoy | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/NWfRKbPk |
| 03:07.24 | abrotman | MrRoy: so if you 'aptitude update; aptitude -t squeeze-backports install fglrx-driver fglrx-control' .. what happens? |
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| 03:08.50 | abrotman | didn't realize that MrRoy was quebecois when he made the joke about quebecois earlier :) |
| 03:08.59 | MrRoy | haha |
| 03:09.11 | abrotman | i thought you were from france .. |
| 03:09.17 | abrotman | and then i was wondering why you were still up at like 4am |
| 03:09.21 | MrRoy | Nope :P |
| 03:09.34 | dvs | wonders why he isn't "MrRoi" |
| 03:09.47 | abrotman | MssrRoi ? .. however it's spelled |
| 03:09.55 | MrRoy | Mister Roy |
| 03:09.58 | MrRoy | Roy being my last name |
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| 03:10.06 | abrotman | Monsseiur ? |
| 03:10.21 | MrRoy | Monsieur |
| 03:10.24 | abrotman | anyway .. did it install anything? |
| 03:10.40 | abrotman | hey! i haven't had a french class in like .. 15 years .. i got pretty darn close! |
| 03:11.30 | MrRoy | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/zy0F63MP |
| 03:11.45 | MrRoy | abrotman: Gave some errors about a super cow or something |
| 03:11.57 | MrRoy | super cow powers |
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| 03:11.58 | abrotman | MrRoy: paste.debian.net ... you hit the spam block at their site |
| 03:12.17 | MrRoy | abrotman: try again now? |
| 03:12.36 | abrotman | MrRoy: when we give oyu a command to run, ti's generally considered nice to put the command you retyped in the paste .. try again |
| 03:12.57 | abrotman | MrRoy: see what i typed above again .. retry |
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| 03:15.02 | MrRoy | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/bndqyYWe |
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| 03:16.58 | DummyMode | does anyone know if there is a dev reference to a zfs pool? I mean, for example with lvm you have /dev/mapper/yourstuff, is there something similar with zfs? |
| 03:17.23 | abrotman | DummyMode: there is a #zfs |
| 03:17.32 | abrotman | MrRoy: seems angry about one of your mirror .. can't tel lwhich |
| 03:17.49 | DummyMode | thank, sorry for the noise |
| 03:18.01 | abrotman | MrRoy: wait, try again tomorrow? |
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| 03:18.56 | gnarface | MrRoy: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html or check here for other mirrors. the key for the status flags is at the bottom |
| 03:20.13 | abrotman | waves |
| 03:20.20 | dvs | bye |
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| 03:20.58 | MrRoy | abrotman: sorry was AFK. The mirror is down? |
| 03:21.14 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 03:21.16 | gnarface | MrRoy: more likely being itself currently updated |
| 03:21.17 | abrotman | really waves |
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| 03:21.32 | MrRoy | abrotman: oh, didn'tsee you were leaving, see ya! |
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| 03:22.20 | anima-sleep | evening |
| 03:22.21 | MrRoy | gnarface: We're using the backports server, does this one have mirrors too? |
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| 03:22.36 | gnarface | MrRoy: uh... dunno actually |
| 03:22.54 | gnarface | MrRoy: mabye not, now that i think of it, or abrotman probably would have mentioned it |
| 03:23.21 | gnarface | MrRoy: i wouldn't be the guy to ask though |
| 03:23.32 | gnarface | MrRoy: it may be functional again within a couple hours |
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| 03:26.30 | MrRoy | gnarface: Well I'mma head to bed then. cya |
| 03:26.37 | gnarface | MrRoy: have a good one |
| 03:29.24 | MrRoy | gnarface: You too |
| 03:33.48 | unomystEz | how would I be able to install http://packages.debian.org/sid/libzmq-dev ? |
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| 03:34.02 | unomystEz | apparently my system has the header files already but they are old and I apt-get can't find them |
| 03:34.09 | unomystEz | (the package rather) |
| 03:34.37 | gnarface | unomystEz: try this: apt-cache search ^linux-headers |
| 03:35.09 | unomystEz | ok, I got a lot of output |
| 03:35.15 | unomystEz | nothing showing zmq |
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| 03:37.15 | unomystEz | I'm on lenny, do I have to add sid? |
| 03:37.21 | gnarface | unomystEz: that command should list header files for different kernels. |
| 03:37.38 | gnarface | unomystEz: OH. i didn't realize you were trying to install a sid package into lenny. god help you son |
| 03:37.44 | unomystEz | well |
| 03:37.46 | unomystEz | maybe not |
| 03:37.52 | unomystEz | I'm just not sure how to update those headers |
| 03:37.57 | gnarface | unomystEz: you're well advized to carefully upgrade to squeeze |
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| 03:38.03 | unomystEz | hmm |
| 03:38.07 | unomystEz | not sure how to do that |
| 03:38.11 | unomystEz | I'm on a Xen VPS |
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| 03:38.14 | gnarface | unomystEz: do not mix distros |
| 03:38.56 | gnarface | unomystEz: i'm sure there is a howto around here somewhere. lets interrogate the bot |
| 03:39.03 | gnarface | !upgrade to squeeze |
| 03:39.07 | gnarface | !upgrade |
| 03:39.08 | dpkg | hmm... upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze>. |
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| 03:39.23 | unomystEz | http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/upgrade-to-debian-6-squeeze |
| 03:39.25 | unomystEz | foudn it |
| 03:39.28 | unomystEz | wish me luck |
| 03:39.29 | gnarface | !lenny-squeeze |
| 03:39.33 | gnarface | !lenny->squeeze |
| 03:39.41 | gnarface | !tell me about lenny->squeeze |
| 03:39.56 | gnarface | !tell unomystEz about lenny->squeeze |
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| 03:40.20 | gnarface | unomystEz: the official docs dpkg just told you about might provide insight if the linode ones leave out important details |
| 03:40.58 | gnarface | unomystEz: and you SHOULD read the release notes like it says. instead of wishing you good luck, i'll wish for you to read the instructions |
| 03:41.25 | unomystEz | ok |
| 03:41.27 | unomystEz | thanks |
| 03:41.31 | gnarface | np |
| 03:41.32 | unomystEz | i'll start reading up on it |
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| 03:43.20 | ir8 | do we have any postgres ninjas in by chance/ |
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| 03:45.44 | Rusty1 | ir8: there is a #postgresql channel, of course |
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| 03:50.27 | spott | Hello, I'm trying to connect a radio modem to a debian box, via ax.25. I know the modem works, I can connect to it with the serial port, but when I try kissattach and axlisten, it doesn't display anything the modem is receiving. I'm running squeeze, fresh install a few days ago. Anyone familiar with linux and ax.25, that could help me sort this? |
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| 03:51.11 | n-iCe | hi |
| 03:51.35 | gnarface | spott: good luck with that. i doubt anyone has heard of it here. at least i haven't. out of curiosity: does "radio modem" mean the same thing as wi-fi? |
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| 03:52.42 | Dewi | gnarface: no |
| 03:52.52 | kuznetzvo-afk | different animal entirely |
| 03:53.02 | gnarface | well that explains why i haven't heard of ax.25 |
| 03:53.03 | kuznetzvo-afk | unfortunately it's something i have never messed with |
| 03:53.16 | gnarface | wtf is a radio modem then? some sort of HAM thing? |
| 03:53.23 | kuznetzvo-afk | it can be |
| 03:53.35 | gnarface | oh, i begin to see |
| 03:53.40 | gnarface | its literally a radio modem |
| 03:53.45 | gnarface | i thought that part was just a bad translation |
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| 03:54.03 | Dewi | gnarface: yeah. Has more in common with 2+G mobile comms but generally, simpler |
| 03:54.27 | gnarface | that seems pretty niche. you'd think they would have their own irc channel |
| 03:54.27 | th0r | gnarface: never overlook the obvious |
| 03:54.41 | gnarface | constantly overlooks the obvious |
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| 03:56.01 | gnarface | spott: all i can suggest is hang out for a long time (a few days at least) and ask the question again every few hours (don't flood) |
| 03:56.06 | user | this is cool is there some sort of radio network i'm missing out on |
| 03:56.15 | spott | aye, understood. |
| 03:56.29 | spott | and it's so niche, there' s not even a channel for it. |
| 03:56.40 | gnarface | a shame |
| 03:56.49 | spott | but there's support for it built into every linux kernel. 8-) |
| 03:57.12 | gnarface | spott: perhaps you need to get in contact with the relevant kernel developer(s) |
| 03:57.40 | spott | nah, just need to take a wrecking bar to my hardware, show it who's boss. |
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| 03:59.09 | gnarface | user: apparently there is some sort of cool radio network we're *all* missing out on |
| 03:59.10 | Chilaquiles | any software in debian that can convert a video file into a DVD playable o a DVD player on the TV? |
| 03:59.38 | spott | I can get it to work the wimpy way, letting one program open a serial port to the modem, but if I can get the ax.25 interface working, then it treats each modem as a network interface, so lots of programs can use it at once. |
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| 04:00.00 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: yes, probably, however i only know how to do it with TWO pieces of software - and neither are known for being easy to use |
| 04:00.27 | spott | gnar: is one called "gordian knot"? 8-) |
| 04:00.42 | Chilaquiles | I used to use DeVeDe to make it and brasero to burn the DVD |
| 04:01.00 | gnarface | spott: uh, no i was thinking of ffmpeg and ... something i forgot the name of (both console programs) |
| 04:01.02 | Chilaquiles | but Devede is not working anymore, so I need to replace it with another program |
| 04:01.04 | Chilaquiles | any suggestions? |
| 04:01.16 | TBotNik | wols: Hey how are you tonight? |
| 04:02.14 | user | everytime i plug in an ethernet cord into my laptop my default gw gets changed to the router it's plugged into, how do i prevent that? i keep having to change it back to my wifi router manually |
| 04:02.21 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: well you can convert it to mpeg2 (the necessary first step) with ffmpeg and then there was this other program i actually have installed that will create a dvd with menus and everything from a file structure of videos and a couple xml files and graphics... but i can't freaking remember the name |
| 04:02.46 | Chilaquiles | ooohh |
| 04:02.47 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: it might have been called dvdauthor |
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| 04:03.45 | Chilaquiles | I have it installed |
| 04:03.51 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: the down side as i recall was that you had to learn about the actual physical structure of a dvd that the dvd players use to construct and interface with dvd menus in order to just write a 1-off config file |
| 04:03.59 | Chilaquiles | but it doesn't have any graphical interfac |
| 04:04.01 | Chilaquiles | e |
| 04:04.35 | Chilaquiles | well, DeVeDe used to do everything and I didn't have to understand all the process |
| 04:04.43 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: yea that sounds like the one. after you get that far the process is pretty simple, just involves a lot of typing. the hardest part is reading the docs first - and wasting a few discs with the inevitable screwups the first couple times |
| 04:04.52 | Chilaquiles | so I'm wondering if there is any software similar to that one |
| 04:05.18 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: maybe a better question you should be asking is how to fix DeVeDe |
| 04:05.19 | Chilaquiles | oh no, that soundsvery annoying |
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| 04:05.28 | Chilaquiles | I already did |
| 04:05.32 | Chilaquiles | nobody had an answer |
| 04:05.35 | Chilaquiles | so I gave up |
| 04:05.39 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: sorry i don't either |
| 04:05.50 | Chilaquiles | I know |
| 04:06.18 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: maybe if you can define what went wrong in more detail (provide a pastebin of the error output or something) someone might be able to make an educated guess though? |
| 04:06.52 | Chilaquiles | I already did that |
| 04:07.08 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: my professional advice to you though - learn to use the console tools at any cost. they generally are more reliable than gui tools. |
| 04:07.15 | n-iCe | Chilaquiles: where are you from? |
| 04:07.26 | Chilaquiles | MX |
| 04:07.43 | n-iCe | SabÃÂa :) |
| 04:07.55 | Chilaquiles | you? |
| 04:07.57 | n-iCe | es #debian-es |
| 04:08.17 | Chilaquiles | I'm ok here, though thanks for the suggestion |
| 04:08.35 | n-iCe | ok, let me read your question |
| 04:08.38 | n-iCe | I am Mexican too |
| 04:08.41 | user | it's annoying that wireless interfaces aren't in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:08.42 | Chilaquiles | k cool |
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| 04:09.09 | valdyn | user: why arent they? |
| 04:09.09 | somiaj | user: yes they are -- but if you use network-manager you take them out because nm ignors interfaces controled by that |
| 04:09.22 | n-iCe | Devede was a great tool |
| 04:09.36 | user | cause i use network-manager |
| 04:09.41 | n-iCe | it still works Chilaquiles http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede_es.html |
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| 04:09.51 | somiaj | user: though i prefer using alaises with wirless interfaces and /etc/network/interfaces (for different wirelss hotspots I use) only issue is chmod 600 that file else anyone can read your wireless keys/passwords. |
| 04:10.14 | gnarface | fucking network-manager problems again. that crap should be considered harmful. its bringing debian's rep down and all of linux's rep down with it |
| 04:10.37 | somiaj | user: you can put alaises in /etc/network/interfaces, and then still use ifup wlan0=alais (and nm will still control wlan0 cause its not in the interfaces file) |
| 04:10.55 | user | ah cool |
| 04:10.58 | somiaj | I just wish wicd didn't stop support, I like it way better. |
| 04:11.03 | Chilaquiles | I know it works, but it doesn't for me n-iCe |
| 04:11.08 | somiaj | didn't stop developent. |
| 04:11.12 | n-iCe | Chilaquiles: but wy |
| 04:11.13 | n-iCe | why |
| 04:11.42 | Chilaquiles | every time I install it, it says that mplayer it's not installed and mencoder is not installed also |
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| 04:11.52 | Chilaquiles | I mean I execute it |
| 04:11.52 | n-iCe | both are? |
| 04:11.53 | user | so how does one stop the routing table from being changed everytime you plug in a wire |
| 04:12.02 | Chilaquiles | they are installed already in my system |
| 04:12.13 | gnarface | user: uninstall avahi-daemon |
| 04:12.33 | n-iCe | You should select the path --pathsomething= |
| 04:12.36 | n-iCe | to indicate |
| 04:12.41 | somiaj | user: do you have an allow-hotplug set up for your eth0 (or wired intercfaces) |
| 04:12.42 | user | gnarface, that sounds drastic |
| 04:12.57 | user | somiaj, yes i do for eth0 |
| 04:13.19 | gnarface | user: avahi-daemon == a feeble attempt to make linux boxes behave like macintoshes (i.e.; catastrophic abomination) |
| 04:13.41 | valdyn | user: why are link-local entries in your routing table a problem at all? |
| 04:13.42 | user | somiaj, i want it to come up and get an ip via dhcp i just dont want the default gw to change to the wired router |
| 04:13.50 | n-iCe | Chilaquiles: other tools http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8413 |
| 04:13.51 | somiaj | user: take that out. any 'nice' thing should only automitcally do something on hotplug if you set it up |
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| 04:14.33 | somiaj | user: I think you need to look into dhcp for that, because by default it should setup the gw for the interface its bringing up |
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| 04:15.21 | user | i'll check it out thanks |
| 04:15.49 | Chilaquiles | somiaj, are you the one that was on #math? |
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| 04:16.09 | user | damnit when did my nick change |
| 04:16.13 | somiaj | gnarface: yea I don't like it either, to bad my googlearth depends on it. And the new googlearth is horrible at the amount of dependencies it brings in. |
| 04:16.19 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: yes I am in #math too |
| 04:16.34 | Chilaquiles | ok nice |
| 04:17.02 | Chilaquiles | n-iCe: Let me try to see if I can fix DeVeDe installation first |
| 04:18.07 | Chilaquiles | One thing that happens now is that now I want to install DeVeDe with Gdebi it says in red: Error: Cannot install 'mencoder' |
| 04:18.25 | Chilaquiles | Do you know why is that? |
| 04:18.30 | gnarface | Gdebi? |
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| 04:18.52 | n-iCe | why don't you just do apt-get install devede |
| 04:18.57 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: probably because you're missing some repos |
| 04:18.59 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: apt-cache policy mencoder (give us the output) |
| 04:19.50 | wols | it's morning, and I overslept |
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| 04:20.15 | somiaj | sleep through anything important? If not good job! (: |
| 04:20.29 | Chilaquiles | n-iCe: I can't because it says that needs other dependecies |
| 04:21.22 | n-iCe | aptitude then? |
| 04:21.26 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: still would like the output (want to see what repo its trying to install it from) |
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| 04:21.40 | Chilaquiles | hold on somiaj I will |
| 04:22.03 | Chilaquiles | http://pastebin.com/PcjhDeVE |
| 04:23.02 | somiaj | you have an unstable repo from debian-multimedia? that could be causing the problems, be glad it can't fix teh depends |
| 04:23.19 | somiaj | I would remove the debian-multimedia.org sources enterially and just use the one in the offical squeeze repo |
| 04:23.29 | Chilaquiles | ok |
| 04:23.36 | Chilaquiles | what should I do then? |
| 04:23.56 | somiaj | remove (or comment out) the debian-multimedia.org sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:24.26 | n-iCe | Chilaquiles: are you in testing? |
| 04:24.49 | n-iCe | because your sources are for stable |
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| 04:25.21 | jasonsmr | anyone on here currently using qemu to emulate the openwrt kernel? with command qemu-system-mips -M mips -kernel |
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| 04:26.38 | Chilaquiles | Im not in testing |
| 04:26.59 | Chilaquiles | somiaj: Ok I commented those lines out |
| 04:27.02 | Chilaquiles | now what? |
| 04:27.17 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ (seems you have some eronous stuff hiding in there you are getting errors from) |
| 04:27.30 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: apt-get update (But lets see if you have anything else hiding in your sources that could cause issueS) |
| 04:28.09 | Chilaquiles | I ran the update command |
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| 04:28.31 | Chilaquiles | the errors are still showing |
| 04:28.49 | Chilaquiles | but anyways I've always had those errors |
| 04:28.57 | Chilaquiles | so im not that concerned about those |
| 04:29.07 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: its because you have some files hiding in /etc/apt/sources.list.d (I'd just clean them out) |
| 04:29.22 | Chilaquiles | I don't have any idea how to do that |
| 04:29.24 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: anyways, do apt-cache policy mencoder (let me see the output again) |
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| 04:29.33 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d (let me see what files are in there) |
| 04:29.59 | Chilaquiles | google-chrome.list google-talkplugin.list |
| 04:30.01 | Chilaquiles | google-chrome.list.save google-talkplugin.list.save |
| 04:30.17 | resus | how does one find the release nickname? |
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| 04:30.56 | resus | there should be like an /etc/debian_nickname file |
| 04:31.01 | Chilaquiles | somiaj: this is the ouput for apt-cache |
| 04:31.02 | Chilaquiles | http://paste.debian.net/129901/ |
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| 04:32.03 | somiaj | resus: /etc/debian_version (though its not always accurate, best way is to look at the libc6 version imo) |
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| 04:32.27 | resus | somiaj, that just shows the numeric version |
| 04:32.52 | resus | i mean i want to see "squeeze" |
| 04:32.53 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ (want to see what you have hiding there, finish cleaning up your sources) |
| 04:33.01 | somiaj | resus: well it says wheezy/sid on my sid boxes |
| 04:33.08 | resus | oh really |
| 04:33.14 | somiaj | resus: so I didn't realize that it sometimes gives the number |
| 04:33.15 | resus | it says 6.0.2 |
| 04:33.17 | resus | for me |
| 04:33.29 | resus | interesting |
| 04:33.34 | somiaj | as root, cat "squeeze" > /etc/debian_version (though not sure if that has any side effects) |
| 04:33.48 | resus | somiaj, haha yea thanks |
| 04:33.51 | somiaj | arg echo "squeeze" > /etc/debian_version (: |
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| 04:34.29 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: though you can try to rerun the command you have, now that you aren't installing a 'unstable' mencoder, the depends should work themselves out. |
| 04:34.55 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: still be nice to remove those two google-*.save files from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to just get rid of those errors from when your google package put them there |
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| 04:35.37 | Chilaquiles | somiaj: so you mean that now I should install Devede? or all the dependencies linked to it? |
| 04:36.21 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: just install that and it should now not error out when trying to satisfy the depends |
| 04:36.27 | TBotNik | All: Looking for networking gurus to join me and debug a DNS problem on channel ##networking |
| 04:37.02 | Chilaquiles | damn it, now it's back to the original problem: when I try to execute DeVeDe it says that mplayer and mencoder are not installed when they are |
| 04:37.06 | resus | ok last stupid question for the day for me: why doesn't the live "hybrid" cd come with sshd that's a weird decision |
| 04:38.26 | Chilaquiles | I it says: Can't find the following programs: mplayer mencoder |
| 04:38.31 | TBotNik | All: I need help with networking DNS issue. Thread on this posted at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11249664, which explains it, I think. Look the map over in the link. The PC is the router. |
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| 04:39.58 | Chilaquiles | I don't know it it's related to this error, but when I write mplayer on the terminal it says mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference |
| 04:41.12 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: what happens when you type 'mplayer' |
| 04:41.33 | Chilaquiles | it says mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference |
| 04:41.35 | somiaj | Chilaquiles: I'm slow. Yea I'm not sure what's up, but I have no clue what DeVeDe is |
| 04:41.56 | Chilaquiles | damn it this is annoying, it was working before |
| 04:42.02 | Chilaquiles | I don't know what happened |
| 04:42.54 | somiaj | well I saw some strange sources, if you have any other strange sources that would have pulled in an upgraded a core file it can have buggy results...beyond that unless you can figure out what you did between when it worked and when it didn't, maybe ask google about your errors |
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| 04:43.21 | Chilaquiles | I already did, nothing worked though |
| 04:43.39 | Chilaquiles | well, Im sleepy |
| 04:43.45 | Chilaquiles | i gotta go to bed |
| 04:43.49 | Chilaquiles | thx anyway |
| 04:44.07 | resus | gnight evrbody |
| 04:44.16 | resus | thanks somiaj |
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| 04:52.18 | windparadise | hello good morning all, pls using shell, how do I extract a doc.gz file? |
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| 04:54.03 | alazare6190 | little offtopic but im looking for recommendations for a lieghtweight gtk music player that supports libraries any ideas? |
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| 05:16.08 | windparadise | yes they are all in teh same folder |
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| 05:16.26 | windparadise | bambanx: in your shell command, type top |
| 05:16.38 | bambanx | windparadise, o ok thanks !1 |
| 05:16.51 | somiaj | windparadise: go into the folder and run this command (backup the folder first to be safe is usual caution when getting advise from randoms) |
| 05:16.51 | windparadise | it will display a table view of your currnt system |
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| 05:17.10 | somiaj | windparadise: for i in *gz; do gunzip $i; done |
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| 05:18.41 | windparadise | so I will initiate a for loops first right? |
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| 05:18.41 | windparadise | shouldn't it be *.gz ? |
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| 05:18.41 | somiaj | doesn't matter |
| 05:18.41 | windparadise | ok |
| 05:18.41 | windparadise | let me try |
| 05:18.41 | somiaj | but yes I am just looping though every *gz file in the folder and running gunzip on it |
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| 05:19.56 | windparadise | should i type done too> |
| 05:19.59 | windparadise | > |
| 05:20.04 | windparadise | ? |
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| 05:20.44 | Dewi | windparadise: yes "done" is part of the "for" syntax |
| 05:21.29 | windparadise | k |
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| 05:21.29 | somiaj | type that whole line, make sure you include the ; as well |
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| 05:21.58 | windparadise | wow, that;s so fast |
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| 05:22.18 | windparadise | I didn't append the ; at the end of done |
| 05:22.18 | windparadise | but it did the job |
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| 05:23.22 | Dewi | windparadise: there wasn't one |
| 05:23.22 | Dewi | windparadise: he meant the ones before |
| 05:24.15 | windparadise | ? |
| 05:24.16 | windparadise | Dewi: I don't get you |
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| 05:24.16 | somiaj | windparadise: for i in *gz; do gunzip $i; done |
| 05:24.16 | somiaj | I gave you the exact command to write |
| 05:24.16 | windparadise | ah, ok ok, thens |
| 05:24.16 | windparadise | thx |
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| 05:24.43 | windparadise | can i set this directly in a cron job ? |
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| 05:25.07 | windparadise | how do I select the folder? |
| 05:25.07 | Dewi | windparadise: yes but you'll need to change to the correct directory |
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| 05:26.19 | windparadise | so it will be: cd /my/dir; for i in *gz; do gunzip $i; done |
| 05:26.19 | windparadise | is it correct? |
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| 05:26.50 | Dewi | windparadise: looks right |
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| 05:27.53 | windparadise | but what about the pointer? |
| 05:28.05 | riefle | hello. when im trying to use wget, im receiving an error of 403 forbidden in all websites, what it can be? |
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| 05:28.05 | Dewi | windparadise: pointer? |
| 05:28.06 | windparadise | they are progressive data which update itsself |
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| 05:28.22 | windparadise | so I want to set the cron job to run every day |
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| 05:28.57 | Dewi | riefle: 403 is forbidden, means you need to log in |
| 05:28.57 | windparadise | riefle: can you check on permissions? |
| 05:28.57 | riefle | but any website |
| 05:28.57 | riefle | not just one |
| 05:28.57 | somiaj | riefle: can you get to those sites on a normal webbrowser? |
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| 05:29.00 | riefle | yes |
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| 05:29.23 | Dewi | riefle: um, if that's really true it means something is proxying your traffic and locking you out |
| 05:29.24 | riefle | Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden |
| 05:29.36 | riefle | anywebsite. |
| 05:29.54 | Dewi | riefle: ie you have a proxy that requires login |
| 05:29.54 | riefle | i cannot even download from the network |
| 05:29.56 | somiaj | does your proxy require some sort of identification, maybe the proxy blocks browsers that don't idenitfy themselves correctly. |
| 05:31.00 | somiaj | there is a --proxy-user=foo and --proxy-password=foo option you can send wget in that case |
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| 05:37.18 | TBotNik | All: Repost: I need help with networking DNS issue. Thread on this posted at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11249664, which explains it, I think. Look the map over in the link. The PC is the router. Please post on channel ##networking. |
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| 05:38.53 | somiaj | sounds like a #ubuntu issue...:P |
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| 05:56.54 | windparadise | somiaj: how do I recursively delete files from directory? |
| 05:57.29 | somiaj | I think you are not using recursively correctly (that means to go in directories of directories of directories) |
| 05:57.44 | somiaj | just rm <list of files> -- use matching to make sure you only match the files you want to delete. |
| 05:57.46 | windparadise | ah, ok ok ok |
| 05:57.48 | windparadise | sorry |
| 05:58.00 | windparadise | delete files from directories |
| 05:58.16 | somiaj | rm /path/to/file1 /path/to/file2 /path/to/file3 |
| 05:58.46 | windparadise | ok, thx |
| 05:58.47 | somiaj | with good use of wild cards you can isolate the ones you want in a single line, best to use 'ls *gz' or something first to double check you only get what you want |
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| 05:58.57 | somiaj | else you may remove something you don't mean too and you can't easilly get it back |
| 05:59.12 | windparadise | yea, that's a good point |
| 05:59.24 | windparadise | I want to delete only test files, from directories |
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| 05:59.53 | windparadise | so it will be rm *txt /my/path right ? |
| 06:00.06 | somiaj | probably want /my/path/*txt |
| 06:00.12 | somiaj | again try ls /my/path/*txt |
| 06:00.12 | somiaj | first |
| 06:00.23 | windparadise | :) |
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| 06:01.33 | windparadise | yes, it outputed all text files |
| 06:01.49 | windparadise | I am beginning to love it man :) |
| 06:02.36 | windparadise | so rm /file/path/*txt will do |
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| 06:04.13 | somiaj | windparadise: yes |
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| 06:04.36 | windparadise | thanks a lot for the hand |
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| 06:13.16 | peterrooney | windparadise: wildcards may be shell-dependant; the bash channel have some good help for beginners (though some seem to expect beginners to read the 85 page manual first) |
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| 06:13.47 | windparadise | hehe.... |
| 06:14.01 | windparadise | ok, let me try reading the 85 pages, wher is the link ? |
| 06:15.33 | peterrooney | windparadise: no link - man bash (or, man man if you're not familiar with linux manual pages) |
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| 06:48.17 | ayambit | I need to install new perl modules in debian lenny. I can do this by using cpan, but as I understand this is discouraged. I can also do 'dh-make-perl --build --cpan module' but this does not work. How would you do this? |
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| 06:49.05 | aypea[1] | using dh-make-perl :) |
| 06:49.23 | aypea[1] | you may need to do the dependencies manually. maybe. |
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| 06:49.47 | ayambit | dh-make-perl --build --cpan ExtUtils::MakeMaker |
| 06:49.48 | ayambit | ExtUtils::MakeMaker is a standard module. |
| 06:50.12 | ayambit | Only one error. There are others actually. |
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| 06:54.31 | jelly-home | ayambit: do you need a newer version of that than what's already in lenny, or? |
| 06:54.59 | ayambit | jelly-home: for this library I need newer version, yes. |
| 06:54.59 | jelly-home | I don't think dh-make-perl works well for modules in the standard bundle |
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| 06:56.18 | ayambit | jelly-home: I used cpan on a test box with the same system and it worked fine, but I want to know about consequences before trying this on real box. If package manager will be a little messed up I don't even care, but I want to know what else I should consider before using cpan. |
| 06:56.30 | jelly-home | that's pretty much it |
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| 06:57.00 | jelly-home | you're going to have leftover cruft after lenny->squeeze upgrade |
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| 06:59.12 | ayambit | jelly-home: Cruft is fine with me. Other things won't break as I understand? |
| 06:59.24 | jelly-home | not until the upgrade time |
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| 07:00.31 | jelly-home | well. You're replacing standard modules. There may be incompatibilities but those would happen regardless of the installation method. |
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| 07:00.53 | ayambit | So it's ok then. I can do upgrade by preparing new clean system image with all needed packages and config files from old system and upload this image on the real box. |
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| 07:01.44 | geek_ | hello |
| 07:02.21 | ayambit | jelly-home: I also thought about installing second perl which will use only cpan libraries and will be installed in another place so it won't mess with debian's perl. Is it a good idea? |
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| 07:02.41 | jelly-home | ayambit: if you have lots of modules to updates, yes |
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| 07:04.08 | jelly-home | a prefix like /opt/perl5.14 might do better than messing with system perl. Then again I have not seen too much trouble messing with system perl. |
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| 07:13.26 | windparadise | somiaj: hi once again, |
| 07:13.55 | windparadise | how do I split large text files into a smaller pieces for the server to better digest it ? |
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| 07:16.19 | macsim | hi, anybody knows if it's possible to install debian on an external ethernet harddrive ? |
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| 07:17.08 | somiaj | windparadise: there is a command called split (man split) not sure what you mean by better digest it |
| 07:17.25 | somiaj | macsim: can you mount the harddrive on a current linux install? |
| 07:17.29 | kuznetzvo-afk | made my ca, signed mah cert, and got it all happy with squid. tested and working. \o/ |
| 07:17.41 | windparadise | ok |
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| 07:18.09 | macsim | somiaj, I can access the harddrive through usb, it's a Lacie MiniED |
| 07:18.15 | somiaj | macsim: can your machine boot off of it? |
| 07:18.46 | macsim | somiaj, I can boot on usb but I didn't try to boot on the harddrive |
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| 07:19.29 | Dewi | windparadise: what are you trying to do that has trouble with big files? |
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| 07:20.08 | windparadise | I am trying to import big csv files into the site database using anoter module which hangs on memory allocation error |
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| 07:20.30 | windparadise | it's a 3Gb file to process so I want to split it to a shorter chuncks |
| 07:20.53 | windparadise | I have found a documentation somewhere here, http://www.edmondscommerce.co.uk/linux/linux-split-file-eg-csv-and-keep-header-row/ |
| 07:21.04 | windparadise | but I would like you to help me to find it it's the correct one |
| 07:21.10 | windparadise | and how do I tune it ? |
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| 07:21.29 | somiaj | macsim: I assume your goal is to then unplug it from your cmoputer and have debian be the os on that device? |
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| 07:21.58 | Dewi | windparadise: does the CSV have a header row? |
| 07:22.08 | Dewi | windparadise: or more importantly, does it need a header row? |
| 07:22.13 | Dewi | windparadise: if not, just use split |
| 07:22.14 | macsim | somiaj, yep in fact this harddrive allready run a linux os,dunno which one and I prefer to make it use debian and get full control of it |
| 07:22.29 | windparadise | Dewi: yes it has header row |
| 07:22.34 | windparadise | yes, |
| 07:22.40 | macsim | somiaj, and access it like a tiny local server |
| 07:22.50 | Dewi | windparadise: okay then, use the instructions you found |
| 07:23.02 | windparadise | Dewi: it need header row to map the importing process |
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| 07:23.33 | windparadise | well for the instruction, I don't undestand much but supposed I want to have a file of 1000 lines, how do I go around it ?> |
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| 07:24.02 | Dewi | windparadise: where it says "4" |
| 07:24.10 | Dewi | windparadise: that is the number of lines per file |
| 07:24.30 | windparadise | ok thx |
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| 07:24.49 | Dewi | windparadise: obviously you want a pretty big number or you'll get way too many files |
| 07:24.50 | somiaj | macsim: I'm unsure. I don't know embeded devices and what sort of things you have to do to get that thing to boot up a differnt os. I just know you could stick debian on the hd but that might do you any good. |
| 07:25.03 | windparadise | yes, I will take up a pain for that |
| 07:25.06 | Dewi | windparadise: you can see your total line count with wc -l <threeGBfile> |
| 07:25.33 | somiaj | macsim: might not do you any good. |
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| 07:25.40 | windparadise | thatis a different command right? |
| 07:25.46 | macsim | somiaj, thanks anyway I'll try a debootstrap + manual grub and cross my finger ;) |
| 07:25.46 | Dewi | windparadise: yes |
| 07:26.23 | Dewi | windparadise: that just tells you how many lines in total, then you can divide by 10 for example, and that would be the number of lines to use with the other script if you want 10 chunks |
| 07:26.43 | windparadise | euh, secondly some parameters I am interrested in, hwo about the file renaming and the file location? because I can see some temp directory there and few things i am not much versatile with yet |
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| 07:27.23 | Dewi | windparadise: it just creates 1 temporary file called tmp_file, and removes it again |
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| 07:27.39 | windparadise | ok, so where will the file location be ? |
| 07:27.51 | windparadise | in the same folder of operation ? |
| 07:28.00 | Dewi | windparadise: split_aa split_ab split_ac split_ad |
| 07:28.03 | Dewi | windparadise: and so on |
| 07:28.14 | Dewi | windparadise: in the same directory |
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| 07:28.37 | windparadise | ok, thx, |
| 07:28.44 | windparadise | but I would like ot add an extension to it |
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| 07:28.50 | windparadise | such as txt or csv |
| 07:28.56 | windparadise | .txt or .csv |
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| 07:29.34 | somiaj | for i in split_*; do mv $i $i.csv; done |
| 07:29.44 | somiaj | could just do that if split doesn't do it for you (though I think it would) |
| 07:29.57 | Dewi | somiaj: thx somiaj, split can't |
| 07:30.42 | windparadise | thanks somiaj euh, remember I want to keep the first header row |
| 07:30.45 | windparadise | for field mappin |
| 07:31.14 | Dewi | windparadise: you would run that after the other script |
| 07:31.40 | windparadise | meaning rewrite them later? |
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| 07:32.43 | Dewi | windparadise: sure |
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| 07:32.50 | windparadise | ok, |
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| 07:34.44 | windparadise | wow, this file has 999949 lines |
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| 07:35.08 | Dewi | somiaj: btw you should quote your variable expansions to avoid problems with spaces in filenames, eg: "$i" |
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| 07:37.36 | file-exists-p | something very weird: Sometime, under X, ^C does not stop processes anymore. Why is that ?! |
| 07:37.42 | file-exists-p | I mean, accross xterms |
| 07:37.47 | file-exists-p | not just in one particular |
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| 07:38.12 | Dewi | file-exists-p: do other ctrl keys work? |
| 07:38.19 | file-exists-p | I can start a new xterm, run "sleep 10" and then press ^C twenty times, it justs prints ^C in the xterm |
| 07:38.23 | Dewi | file-exists-p: my guess would be incorrect keyboard mapping |
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| 07:38.50 | file-exists-p | that would be super weird: How can it change in the middle of the session, and why would it still print ^C in the term ? |
| 07:39.06 | file-exists-p | if it was not accross xterm I would bet on some weird control key I press by accident that changes the tty setting |
| 07:39.07 | Dewi | file-exists-p: it doesn't always happen in X? |
| 07:39.10 | file-exists-p | no |
| 07:39.22 | file-exists-p | if kill the server and restarts, it works again |
| 07:39.40 | file-exists-p | and I was observing this both on my X61s with 5.0 and now on a T420s with 6.0 |
| 07:40.04 | Dewi | file-exists-p: what's your DE? |
| 07:40.07 | file-exists-p | de ? |
| 07:40.08 | jmarsden | file-exists-p: stty -a tells you what the setting for the intr character is... |
| 07:40.15 | Dewi | file-exists-p: desktop environment. eg gnome? |
| 07:40.18 | file-exists-p | fvwm2 |
| 07:40.20 | file-exists-p | :/ |
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| 07:40.26 | file-exists-p | I am a bit old school |
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| 07:40.40 | file-exists-p | but how would the wm intercept that ? |
| 07:40.44 | Dewi | file-exists-p: reckon! that brings back terrible memories |
| 07:40.55 | file-exists-p | how comes it still ends up printing "^C" in the xterm |
| 07:41.12 | file-exists-p | jmas: I will check that, next time it happens |
| 07:41.27 | Dewi | file-exists-p: maybe jmarsden is right and interrupt s no longer ^C |
| 07:41.37 | file-exists-p | yes, that would make sense. but accross xterms ? |
| 07:41.58 | Dewi | file-exists-p: they probably inherit from the WM that starts them |
| 07:42.01 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 07:42.21 | file-exists-p | the WM would tell something to xterm, that would tell something to bash ? |
| 07:42.22 | jmarsden | file-exists-p: You can set it back (per terminal I think!) using stty sane |
| 07:42.34 | file-exists-p | jma: ok, I will try that. good idea |
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| 07:43.30 | file-exists-p | ah |
| 07:43.36 | file-exists-p | stty -isig does the same |
| 07:43.48 | file-exists-p | but in the xterm where I do this |
| 07:43.51 | file-exists-p | not accross xterms |
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| 07:44.21 | file-exists-p | ok, I will check next time I observe the problem |
| 07:44.23 | file-exists-p | thanks a lot |
| 07:44.28 | jmarsden | You're welcome. |
| 07:44.31 | file-exists-p | now heading to a boring meeting... cheer! |
| 07:44.32 | file-exists-p | +s |
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| 07:44.36 | Dewi | file-exists-p: yeah so it's likely to be happening in the parent somewhere like fvwm |
| 07:44.48 | Dewi | file-exists-p: and settings get copied down when you spawn xterms |
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| 07:44.58 | windparadise | Dewi: from the posted example earlier, for file in split_* that means the output file supposed to be saved right ? |
| 07:45.09 | file-exists-p | dewi: I agree this is the most liekly scenario, but this is pretty weird though |
| 07:45.30 | Dewi | windparadise: yes that searches for the output files from the other script |
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| 07:46.10 | windparadise | what about split_ in tail -n +2 file.txt | split -l 4 - split_ |
| 07:46.34 | yagoo | windparadise, -n is optional |
| 07:47.21 | Dewi | windparadise: that specifies the output filename during the initial split |
| 07:47.30 | Dewi | windparadise: well the prefix for the output filename |
| 07:47.57 | yagoo | oops.. i have aliases |
| 07:47.58 | yagoo | lol |
| 07:48.19 | windparadise | in order to have a file+ extension can we have tail -n +2 file.txt | split -l 4 - split_ .txt just to add the extension |
| 07:48.29 | windparadise | or how do we use concatenation in shell ? |
| 07:48.52 | Dewi | windparadise: no, split only takes prefix |
| 07:49.19 | windparadise | ok, let me try |
| 07:49.37 | Dewi | windparadise: I have to go. Good luck. bye |
| 07:49.50 | windparadise | can I input that in single command or it should be saved in a shell file to run? |
| 07:49.55 | windparadise | thx a lot |
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| 07:57.20 | jmarsden | windparadise: -l 4 means 4 lines per split file... if you have a million line file, that would generate 250K 4 line files... this is not going to be optimal; that many files in one directory will be slow. |
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| 07:57.38 | jmarsden | I suggest using a number way bigger than 4 :) |
| 07:58.46 | windparadise | jmarsden: I am using 500, however I have an error, here is the new file http://pastebin.com/ZkyzgNDy named splitting.sh and I have an error 'plitting.sh: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `do'plitting.sh: line 3: ` do |
| 07:59.06 | windparadise | that's when I run sh splitting.sh |
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| 08:01.12 | chrisw_ | hi all, do cron jobs run at local time by default? |
| 08:01.43 | jmarsden | The script seems odd: it uses better.txt for input at the top, and file.txt for input in line 4. ALso line 4 needs to move up outside the loop, so it only runs once, the header line will not change per partial file :) |
| 08:01.52 | jmarsden | chrisw_: Yes. |
| 08:03.49 | chrisw_ | jmarsden: hmm, so if I have a cron job scheduled at 1am on the day of a DST change, does it get run twice? |
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| 08:04.05 | windparadise | thanks jmarsden but pls enlighten me, you said line 4 needs to move outside the loop, I think it will add each first row header to each splitted file, |
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| 08:05.20 | jmarsden | windparadise: Let me test it, you are doing something strange in there... |
| 08:05.29 | windparadise | ok, |
| 08:06.31 | windparadise | secondly, I still want to append an extension to it splitted file |
| 08:06.42 | windparadise | so it will be like split_*.txt or csv |
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| 08:07.57 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I have installed 'tftpd' from repositories (squueze). I have configured the server to use specific directory and restarted inetd. However, when I try to copy a config file from Cisco device, I get error message: Error opening tftp://my.ip.of.the.server/router-config (No such file or directory). I think it cannot crate any new files which don't exist in the tftp root directory. Any ideas how to allow tftpd to create new files? |
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| 08:08.33 | jmarsden | windparadise: That's trivial once you have the files... is the input file named better.txt, or file.txt ?? Or are those two different files? |
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| 08:09.02 | windparadise | it's the same file, better.txt |
| 08:09.10 | windparadise | in fact I was modifying an example posted |
| 08:09.11 | jmarsden | OK. |
| 08:09.27 | windparadise | from this url http://www.edmondscommerce.co.uk/linux/linux-split-file-eg-csv-and-keep-header-row/ |
| 08:10.57 | optraz | when we have an empty file, let's call it foo, and we have a single character, say 'a' in foo. what is the size of this file when view with ls -lh foo ? |
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| 08:11.32 | windparadise | optraz: 1byte I believe |
| 08:12.22 | optraz | it show 2 |
| 08:12.29 | optraz | windparadise: i would expected 1byte too |
| 08:13.24 | windparadise | hmmmm maybe the file name too |
| 08:13.31 | windparadise | the size of the file name |
| 08:13.41 | windparadise | plus its content |
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| 08:14.48 | ansgar | optraz: Why do you think you only have one character in the file? |
| 08:14.55 | windparadise | jmarsden: do you have any suggestion? |
| 08:15.08 | optraz | windparadise: no, if you have an emtpy file, say touch foo, then do ls -lh foo, u get 0 |
| 08:15.28 | optraz | ansgar: what do you mean? |
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| 08:16.15 | ansgar | optraz: I suspect you have two there. Not all characters are alphanumeric. |
| 08:16.30 | jmarsden | optraz: hexdump foo will show you exactly what is in the file foo. Most likely you added an end of line, so the file is 2 chars, an 'a' and then an LF. |
| 08:17.14 | jmarsden | optraz: hexdump -c foo might be more readable if you do not read hex :) |
| 08:17.26 | optraz | jmarsden: ahhhh.. the \n |
| 08:17.30 | jmarsden | Indeed. |
| 08:17.31 | optraz | yes, thank you jmarsden hexdump -c |
| 08:17.52 | optraz | ansgar: im trying to understand the size. the content of the file is of not concern here. |
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| 08:19.34 | windparadise | jmarsden: what do you suggest about the earlier question ? |
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| 08:21.31 | jmarsden | windparadise: http://pastebin.com/jkQsa8Cs |
| 08:21.38 | windparadise | ok, thanks |
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| 08:23.12 | jmarsden | windparadise: That should also explain about moving the head to get the first line out of the loop, so you do it just once :) |
| 08:23.23 | windparadise | ok |
| 08:24.31 | jmarsden | As you can see, I added .csv (I could have made that yet another optional parameter to the script, I suppose!) to each output piece. |
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| 08:24.45 | jmarsden | windparadise: Is it working for you? |
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| 08:25.15 | windparadise | hold, testing |
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| 08:29.21 | windparadise | jmarsden: running sh command.sh gave me Command not found2 |
| 08:29.32 | chrisw__ | jmarsden: I think the followup question I asked is answered by the statement "it depends what cron you use", bsd, rhel and debian all seem subtly different... |
| 08:30.00 | jmarsden | chrisw__: This is #debian, other OSes are irrelevant here :) |
| 08:30.10 | windparadise | here is the report : command not found2: : command not found5: : command not found8: 'plitting.sh: line 10: syntax error near unexpected token `do 'plitting.sh: line 10: `do |
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| 08:31.06 | jmarsden | windparadise: Looks like you copied a bunch of unwanted whitespace or tabs into the file? And you are using sh instead of bash to run my script, which says #!/bin/bash at the top... ??? |
| 08:31.38 | windparadise | ah, sorry sorry |
| 08:31.41 | jmarsden | windparadise: do not cut and paste from a pastebin page, use the download button. |
| 08:31.42 | windparadise | so how do I run it pls ? |
| 08:31.48 | windparadise | ok |
| 08:32.13 | jmarsden | It is a script. So chmod +x somefile.sh to make it executable, and then ./somefile.sh to run it. |
| 08:32.14 | chrisw__ | jmarsden: heh, I suspect the answer is still "it depends what version of debian you're running" ;-) |
| 08:32.27 | chrisw__ | anyway thanks for the help! |
| 08:33.03 | windparadise | ok |
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| 08:35.28 | jmarsden | windparadise: As you probably noticed, you can modify what it does by giving it up to 2 parameters the input file and the numebr of lines per file. So you can do ./somefile.sh yourinputfile.txt 1000 if you want to split a file called that into 1000 line pieces... it uses your values of better.txt and 5000 as defaults. |
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| 08:36.05 | windparadise | ok, it's getting nice, :) |
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| 08:37.30 | windparadise | jmarsden: so that's the reason why you place them in a braket ? |
| 08:37.33 | jmarsden | It just helped me to test, I used smaller chunks and a small input file for early tests, only use a 1 million line file when it worked on a 100 line file just fine :) |
| 08:37.39 | niklaswe | how will i do to rename access-list in hp procurve? |
| 08:38.09 | jmarsden | Yes ${1:-something} means "use the value of $1 if it exists, or something if $1 does not exist". man bash for all the details. |
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| 08:38.31 | windparadise | ok, I will need to take a bash course :) |
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| 08:38.44 | jmarsden | niklaswe: ask in ##networking |
| 08:38.57 | niklaswe | jmarsden: okey thnx :) |
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| 08:39.24 | jmarsden | windparadise: Read the man page and also http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ -- create your own free course :) |
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| 08:40.32 | windparadise | jmarsden: currently, I have placed the file and running the command on the current directory where I placed the file however I have this error |
| 08:40.33 | windparadise | -bash: ./splitting.sh: Permission denied |
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| 08:40.55 | jmarsden | windparadise: Earlier, i said: <jmarsden> It is a script. So chmod +x somefile.sh |
| 08:41.03 | jmarsden | Did you chmod +x the script file? |
| 08:41.10 | geek_ | yes |
| 08:41.26 | windparadise | yes I did it |
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| 08:41.55 | jmarsden | windparadise: what does ls -l ./splitting.sh output? |
| 08:42.36 | geek_ | what is splitting.sh? |
| 08:43.05 | jmarsden | geek_: http://pastebin.com/jkQsa8Cs |
| 08:43.12 | windparadise | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 314 Sep 14 12:33 ./splitting.sh |
| 08:43.34 | windparadise | geek_: lol |
| 08:43.39 | jmarsden | windparadise: You are doing this as root??? why? that's really a bad idea. Nothing we are doing needs root privs. |
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| 08:44.01 | geek_ | shoudl i wget the link? |
| 08:44.02 | windparadise | it's a script we are using to splitt large files to smaller one specially csv |
| 08:44.11 | windparadise | yes, go ahead |
| 08:44.15 | windparadise | use the posted link |
| 08:44.23 | windparadise | ok |
| 08:44.30 | geek_ | and does it split by line or size? |
| 08:44.33 | windparadise | let me add a new user with all profilegeds |
| 08:44.39 | windparadise | geek_: by line |
| 08:44.41 | jmarsden | geek_: man split and read the script. |
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| 08:45.02 | geek_ | jmarsden ok ill tar couple of lines and try to split them |
| 08:45.27 | jmarsden | geek_: Please just do it quietly so I can try to help windparadise, OK ? :) |
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| 08:45.45 | windparadise | geek_: let's say you have a 2GB worth of csv data and want to import it into a database, you will then have to split it due to hosting constrains, amd memory allocation |
| 08:46.13 | jmarsden | windparadise: do you want to work with geek_ , or with me. It is late here, I need to sleep soon... |
| 08:46.14 | windparadise | jmarsden: so I should use useradd right? |
| 08:46.20 | geek_ | not really |
| 08:46.26 | windparadise | jmarsden: with you, |
| 08:46.31 | geek_ | i use perl or php to insert it into the db line by line |
| 08:46.53 | jmarsden | geek_: be quiet or we will /ignore you at best. |
| 08:47.08 | geek_ | im just trying to help |
| 08:47.23 | jmarsden | Maybe, but that's not what the issue is... |
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| 08:48.35 | windparadise | ssshhh, it's working :) |
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| 08:49.12 | jmarsden | windparadise: It's working? I though you said it just gave you "permission denied" ? |
| 08:49.13 | geek_ | ill brb |
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| 08:49.34 | windparadise | yes, I have restarted the server |
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| 08:49.44 | nze | how do i cut of a file at a certain line that i can regexp-match? |
| 08:49.48 | jmarsden | OK. So it worked now? |
| 08:50.42 | windparadise | yes, checking the file, |
| 08:52.36 | jmarsden | nze: You can use awk to do that sort of thing, but I need some sleep (almost 2am here)... |
| 08:53.34 | windparadise | thanks a lot, itls working |
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| 08:54.38 | windparadise | nze: look at the bottom line of the page and use the example http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1411713/how-to-split-a-file-and-keep-the-first-line-in-each-of-the-pieces |
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| 08:57.27 | jmarsden | nze: someting like awk '/yourregexp/ { exit }; {print}' yourfile >yournewsmallerfile |
| 08:57.56 | jmarsden | windparadise: You're welcome... and I'm going to bed. Goodnight all. |
| 08:58.07 | windparadise | good night |
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| 10:02.12 | fasta | If I do modprobe kqemu, the module doesn't exist. Isn't it in Squeeze? |
| 10:02.52 | bolt | When I start my laptop, with bluetooth-applet and gnome-network-manager, it will automatically connect to my phone, and "Phone Network" shows up as an option when I click the network manager. I can then connect, and use the internet. However, when I disconnect it, it also disconnects the bluetooth, and never tries to acquire it again, so I can't connect a second time. How can I make it attempt to connect to my phone again? |
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| 10:03.59 | Reverend_Hilltop | has anybody added bohdi linux repos to installed debian system? |
| 10:04.05 | bolt | On a side note, it used to reconnect on its own when I ran Ubuntu on that machine. |
| 10:04.34 | bolt | Reverend_Hilltop: someone most likely has. it would be an unsupported setup, however |
| 10:05.30 | HashNuke | I'm logged in as root and I'm trying to run a script as another user. So I did: su - hashnuke -c "bash myscript.sh". But it looks like it doesn't load the user's bashrc file for me to use user specific stuff. Any way to do this? (I'm logged in as root, so I don't mind). Trying "su - hashnuke" gives me an interactive shell, which I don''t need |
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| 10:07.16 | bolt | HashNuke: you should use -l, not just -, if you want to add more options after it. At least it used to say so in the manual. Also, if you can't work around it, just do "source ~/.bashrc; myscript...." |
| 10:07.30 | bolt | HashNuke: also, you might want to check out #bash |
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| 10:09.30 | Reverend_Hilltop | Bolt: thanks |
| 10:09.58 | HashNuke | bolt: cannot use relative paths. Coz doing: su -l hashnuke "echo $HOME" says /root when it should be saying /home/hashnuke |
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| 10:12.14 | HashNuke | bolt: the chat above is missing the "-c". but in the terminal while trying it out. i did type it. |
| 10:12.31 | bolt | HashNuke: source "$(cat /etc/passwd | grep "^$(whoami):" | cut -d: -f 6)/.bashrc" |
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| 10:12.49 | bolt | HashNuke: now i'm just making stuff up :) might want to read the bash manual instead |
| 10:13.46 | bolt | hm.. |
| 10:14.54 | bolt | su -l bolt -c "echo \$HOME" gives me /home/bolt |
| 10:15.06 | bolt | note the escape, so $HOME isn't expanded before we're "bolt" |
| 10:15.33 | bolt | HashNuke: you'd have to do the same with ~, or just use \$HOME |
| 10:15.48 | bolt | HashNuke: the variable is set correctly, i think. it's just that you're expanding it too soon |
| 10:16.41 | bolt | HashNuke: su - hashnuke -c "source \$HOME/.bashrc; myscript.sh" |
| 10:17.01 | bolt | or use single quotes |
| 10:17.20 | bolt | is spammy today |
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| 10:19.38 | Reverend_Hilltop | what's the public equivalent of /msg? |
| 10:20.26 | petemc | you just prefix the nick of the person you want to address |
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| 10:20.53 | nyuszika7h | Reverend_Hilltop: IRC doesn't differentate between channel messages and private messages much, you use PRIVMSG (/msg in IRC clients) for both. |
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| 10:22.48 | HashNuke | bolt: so I'm using $HOME inside a shell script and then running the shell script using su and the value over there is /root. |
| 10:23.55 | bolt | HashNuke: does su -l hashnuke -c "echo \$HOME" return the correct value for you? |
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| 10:24.11 | HashNuke | bolt: yes |
| 10:24.28 | bolt | but if you call your script instead, and that script uses $HOME, it returns /root ? |
| 10:24.41 | HashNuke | bolt: yes. |
| 10:25.01 | bolt | what does that script say if you do "whoami" ? |
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| 10:25.22 | bolt | makes a quick script |
| 10:26.35 | HashNuke | bolt: one sec, switching systems across the hall |
| 10:26.41 | bolt | if I put "echo $HOME && whoami" in a script, and run it as root, i get "/root" and "root" |
| 10:26.58 | bolt | running with with su -l bolt -c "./myscript", I get /home/bolt and bolt |
| 10:27.22 | bolt | yours *should* do the same |
| 10:28.10 | HashNuke | bolt: ya it does. |
| 10:28.45 | bolt | what does what? |
| 10:28.59 | HashNuke | I get the /home/hashnuke and hashnuke |
| 10:29.16 | bolt | HashNuke: then there's something weird with your other script, if that gets the wrong values :) |
| 10:29.37 | HashNuke | bolt: I need the user's bashrc file so that I can get the environment stuff and I also added "source ~/.bashrc" in the file. And now I'm still now able to load a command which loads as the user. |
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| 10:30.05 | HashNuke | bolt: So I added added "echo $HOME" to the .bashrc of the user and it says "/root" |
| 10:30.42 | bolt | what kind of command are you trying to call? |
| 10:30.52 | HashNuke | so in short: I run a script as a user (which runs fine with $HOME). And that script is loading the user's bashrc (in which the $HOME is back to /root) |
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| 10:32.28 | bolt | HashNuke: what is this command that you need the user's environment in order to run? |
| 10:34.05 | HashNuke | bolt: it's just a ruby version manager that's installed in the user's env. |
| 10:34.13 | HashNuke | bolt: here's my stuff https://gist.github.com/1216280 |
| 10:34.15 | HardDisk_WP | how do I find out how much space is used and free inside a ext3 container without mounting it? |
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| 10:36.12 | bolt | HashNuke: is "rvm" an alias? |
| 10:36.36 | HashNuke | ah no. it's just a script somewhere in ~/.rvm |
| 10:36.59 | HashNuke | bolt: however it would be easier if i can just load the user's bashrc without problems and that'll take care of the rest |
| 10:37.12 | bolt | so the sourcing of rvm adds ~/.rvm to the PATH, then? |
| 10:37.28 | HashNuke | bolt: ya |
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| 10:40.29 | bolt | I can't reproduce this issue... I added "echo $HOME" to my .bashrc, and it returns the correct value. |
| 10:40.30 | Minkben | is there any way to change the shell without previlegies? |
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| 10:40.38 | Minkben | chsh didn't work for me. |
| 10:40.40 | bolt | sure you're not overriding $HOME somewhere in your files? |
| 10:40.43 | HashNuke | bolt: oh |
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| 10:40.56 | HashNuke | bolt: nope. I'm just using what I showed you in the gist. |
| 10:42.14 | Minkben | should I just execute /bin/bash in my current shell rc? or is there a better way=? |
| 10:44.13 | bolt | HashNuke: what does bash return for "type rvm" in an environment where it works? |
| 10:44.27 | bolt | HashNuke: there is also a -l switch to "bash", btw... dunno if that would help |
| 10:44.37 | HashNuke | bolt: function |
| 10:44.48 | bolt | so it's not in $PATH then |
| 10:45.06 | HashNuke | bolt: sorry just checked. I get a lot of bash stuff when I do "type rvm" |
| 10:45.24 | HashNuke | ya in the first line it does say "rvm is a function" |
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| 10:46.37 | HashNuke | well if running a command as a user sources the user's bashrc, then it should be available to the further commands. So I guess bashrc isn't sourced. manually sourcing it causes the problem specified. |
| 10:47.48 | bolt | manually sourcing it? like, if you type source .bashrc in a working environment it stops working? |
| 10:48.04 | bolt | running out of ideas here :( |
| 10:48.19 | HashNuke | bolt: no worries. I guess I'll just do it the easy way maybe. |
| 10:48.57 | HashNuke | is there a way to auto-login as a user when the system is ready? |
| 10:49.15 | HashNuke | I don't have a system with GUI. it's a debian base install. |
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| 10:49.51 | windparadise_ | hello, pls how do I add user permission to speficic folder and applications? |
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| 10:50.23 | Bushmills | !permissions |
| 10:50.23 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
| 10:50.24 | windparadise_ | I noticed as a root, I can control SFTP, any webfoder, but a dedicated user / group doesn't have that access, but rather has an accesss denied error |
| 10:50.25 | HashNuke | windparadise_: chmod |
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| 10:50.41 | windparadise_ | I've done that many times but no success |
| 10:50.48 | bolt | HashNuke: rungetty will do that |
| 10:50.57 | windparadise_ | I even did chmod 777 to the designated folder but not vail |
| 10:51.17 | HashNuke | bolt: thanks i'll check it out |
| 10:51.43 | Bushmills | windparadise_: all parent directories must allow +x for the user or group in question |
| 10:52.31 | windparadise_ | Bushmills: pls explain |
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| 10:53.08 | Bushmills | a user can't change to a directory 3 levels deep if access to directory 1 level or 2 levels deep isn't allowed |
| 10:53.23 | windparadise_ | ok, |
| 10:53.32 | windparadise_ | so I have to do a recursive chmod right? |
| 10:53.50 | HashNuke | windparadise_: yup. just add -R after "chmod" |
| 10:53.52 | Bushmills | not worth for a small number of directories |
| 10:54.13 | windparadise_ | ok |
| 10:54.35 | Bushmills | that's too much effort preventing change of permission on files and directories which you *don't* want to change |
| 10:54.59 | windparadise_ | well for the moment I don't have a choice but let me do it |
| 10:55.34 | Bushmills | no choice other than recursive chmod? i can't believe that. |
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| 10:55.52 | windparadise_ | I can use ftp yes |
| 10:56.07 | windparadise_ | but ftp has a limited access instead of SSH |
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| 11:10.48 | mark2 | hey, i have a problem with iptable, i hope somebody can set me on the right track: i have a public ip from which i want to forward port 5000 to port 22 of an internal ip. i found this command which should do the job: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 5000 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.3.6:22 . but the only thing that changes is the port status from closed to filtered. am i missing something? |
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| 11:11.53 | cgc | hi everyone |
| 11:12.01 | cgc | I am having a problem with tftpd-hpa |
| 11:12.27 | cgc | i can download files over tftp from the server itself, but i can not download them from any other machine |
| 11:12.49 | cgc | it just times out |
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| 11:13.14 | cgc | I added this to /etc/hosts.allow on the server: ALL: 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 11:13.21 | cgc | but this did nothing |
| 11:13.35 | fasta | Are there any instructions for using kqemu on Debian that have been tested and are known to work? |
| 11:13.42 | cgc | /etc/hosts.deny has nothing in it |
| 11:14.49 | cgc | no error's come up in the syslog, the only thing that appears in the is a RRQ for the file from the IP that requested it |
| 11:15.14 | cgc | This is my server process that is running: /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -p -l -v -v -v -v -v -v -v -s /var/lib/tftpboot |
| 11:15.52 | digdilem_ | Random question of the day: Does anyone know of a proven way to get "Out of hours" auto responses for imap? (I imagine a script that checks and responds. Hours could be controlled by crontab) |
| 11:16.18 | cgc | digdilem_: this is done by the MTA not the imap server |
| 11:16.40 | digdilem_ | exim4 in my case. |
| 11:17.05 | cgc | digdilem_: the MTA should check a file or database to see if an autoreply is enabled and act accordingly |
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| 11:17.16 | petemc | what does 'for imap' mean in that context? |
| 11:17.18 | digdilem_ | but that's not something that's generally advisable to work directly with ime, especially with user-mode configuration |
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| 11:17.30 | cgc | exim, 1 sec, thats what i use, I'll show you my autoreply transport |
| 11:17.35 | digdilem_ | petemc, fair point. it's mbox |
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| 11:17.47 | digdilem_ | i just imagined it would be checked by imap for new messages |
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| 11:18.34 | digdilem_ | I am fighting a long hard fight not to provide my users with Exchange, but I need to provide some of its features |
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| 11:19.14 | sep | digdilem_, i use dovecot as imap server. and the sieve filters there |
| 11:19.21 | cgc | digdilem_: http://pastebin.com/x3SXPKCp |
| 11:19.42 | cgc | digdilem_: this would work fine, but you should adapt to suit your situation |
| 11:19.48 | sep | digdilem_, umm i mean doevecot's delivery also in postfix. |
| 11:20.08 | digdilem_ | oh, thanks cgc, I'm also using dovecot - didn't think of that |
| 11:20.39 | digdilem_ | sep as well, sorry |
| 11:20.43 | sep | digdilem_, belie you have to deliver with dovecot as well not just use it for imap. since it's at the delivery the sieve thing happens |
| 11:20.55 | cgc | digdilem_: that doesn't matter, you can either get exim to do it directly or hand it off to dovecot and get dovecot to do it, im using dovecot as well but i get exim to do the autoreply |
| 11:21.50 | digdilem_ | cgc, your filter triggers over a certain filesize? |
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| 11:22.23 | cgc | digdilem_: that the limit on the autoreply database file size |
| 11:22.44 | cgc | digdilem_: it keeps a database so it doesn't keep sending an autoreply to the same email addresses |
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| 11:22.57 | digdilem_ | that's clever stuff you've got there |
| 11:23.02 | cgc | this is the database file: /srv/mail/imap/${domain}/autoreplies/${local_part}.rcptdb |
| 11:23.25 | cgc | digdilem_: i've built my exim configuration over years of working with exim |
| 11:23.46 | digdilem_ | nice. I try to spend as little time in there as I can because, well, frankly it scares me. |
| 11:24.21 | cgc | digdilem_: just dive in, but test on a test server so that you cause no down time, exim is brilliant, there is so much you can do with it! :) |
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| 11:25.33 | cgc | digdilem_: the condition section of the router is to stop it sending autoreplies to mailling lists and other autoreplies |
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| 11:26.15 | digdilem_ | yeah, lots of work in there |
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| 11:27.18 | digdilem_ | thx for the pointers. afk now |
| 11:27.32 | cgc | digdilem_: np, good luck :) |
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| 11:37.40 | cjayho | hi all |
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| 11:42.05 | sep | anyone have any real world numbers of what kind of performance difference one gets from using lvm lv's compared to disk image files , for kvm machines ? |
| 11:42.16 | sep | is it worth it ? |
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| 11:44.38 | HashNuke | I'm trying to use run rungetty and have it installed. Here's my /etc/inittab and .bash_profile https://gist.github.com/279234ab02006d257b1b, for some reason, I'm not able to autologin, what it does it that after boot It just cleans up the boot messages from the screen and displays me the login screen to login. I'm on a debian base install system. |
| 11:45.20 | cjayho | I have a stupid bug in my squeeze installer-dvd, when i'm selecting "graphical expert install", or "graphical install", I can not use my USB mouse. how to fix it? when i'm using ps/2 mouse, it works fine |
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| 11:47.39 | cjayho | also package "disk-manager" doesn't work, when i'm running disk-manager from root console (using sudo) console shows python-related errors |
| 11:48.19 | cjayho | how can I report this problem to the disk-manager maintainer |
| 11:48.21 | cjayho | ? |
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| 11:50.40 | fbs | sep: if you find something let me know :) |
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| 11:55.53 | dname | Hello. Here a lot of torrent files from cd-1 to 51. These packages and boot? |
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| 11:57.52 | thewanderer1 | dname: first cd is boot, the rest are packages |
| 11:58.22 | dname | Thanks:) |
| 11:58.23 | sep | dname, if you have network while installing, use the netinstaller |
| 11:58.24 | amero | how do i disable the need for root priv to run an app? |
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| 11:58.57 | sep | amero, depends on the app |
| 11:59.07 | cjayho | amero use /sbin/app or /usr/sbin/app |
| 11:59.19 | amero | let's say iftop |
| 12:00.09 | amero | pcap_open_live(eth1): eth1: You don't have permission to capture on that device (socket: Operation not permitted) |
| 12:00.41 | cjayho | amero, add for your user ability to reconfigure network interfaces |
| 12:00.57 | jasonsmr | hello debian, getting error >> dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2 |
| 12:01.02 | jasonsmr | what can I do ? |
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| 12:01.45 | jasonsmr | the error lines before that are >> |
| 12:01.46 | cjayho | jasonsmr, can you show more of fakeroot output? |
| 12:01.50 | jasonsmr | dpkg-architecture: warning: Specified GNU system type mips-linux-gnu does not match gcc system type i486-linux-gnu. |
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| 12:01.51 | jasonsmr | dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture mips |
| 12:01.53 | Bushmills | ,versions pigz |
| 12:01.54 | judd | Package pigz on i386 -- sid: 2.1.6-1; squeeze: 2.1.6-1; wheezy: 2.1.6-1 |
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| 12:02.35 | cjayho | jasonsmr, are you compiling apps for MIPS? |
| 12:02.38 | jasonsmr | then the build gave up, and tried to clean itself , and could not find a clean make rule then it gave the error I gave you |
| 12:03.05 | jasonsmr | the other output is the person who edited this code >> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Amain (DebWrt.net) <amain@debwrt.net> |
| 12:03.27 | jasonsmr | package name is iw .. the source version is > dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.9.19-1 |
| 12:03.52 | thewanderer1 | guys, how do I disable DMA for two disks, sda and sdb? nodma and sda=nodma sdb=nodma don't seem to work. |
| 12:04.01 | jasonsmr | yes compiling for mips, using my toolchain the is made for compiling mips |
| 12:04.04 | thewanderer1 | this will help me speed up the boot by 5 minutes |
| 12:04.16 | jasonsmr | this is the package that is giving me issues |
| 12:04.40 | cjayho | jasonsmr, maybe in your system is installed another gcc especially for mips? |
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| 12:05.00 | cjayho | and it has a different executable path, like /usr/bin/gcc-mips |
| 12:05.25 | jasonsmr | its not findng the gcc for mips? |
| 12:05.38 | cjayho | jasonsmr, maybe |
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| 12:06.22 | jasonsmr | this ?? /home/jason/openwrt/build_dir/toolchain-mips_r2_gcc-4.5-linaro_uClibc-0.9.32 |
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| 12:07.13 | cjayho | thewanderer1, are you usind IDE(PATA) drives? |
| 12:07.14 | jasonsmr | thats strange I wonder why its not finding it? im not using openwrt this time but a alternitive debwrt, I wonder if I should compile the openwrt then do qemu into it |
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| 12:08.23 | jasonsmr | well thanks for now... I think that this may be the issue, not sure need nmore looking into.. |
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| 12:08.35 | cjayho | thewanderer1, if you are using ide or pata drives, try ide=nodma |
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| 12:12.50 | sylar | "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found" - anyone knwos what to do about this? |
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| 12:15.38 | Chelsea | Hi all, when I try to purge a package, apt says the package "needs to be reinstalled, but can't find an archive for it". Apt-get -f install says the same thing. How can I resolve this? |
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| 12:16.28 | cjayho | Chelsea, find package from the package.debian.org, and use dpkg -i ./*.deb to reinstall it. after that, try to remove it |
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| 12:16.36 | jkp | hi guys: ive got a question as a new package maintainer |
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| 12:16.56 | jkp | is it possible to include "support" files in the debian/ directory that are needed during install or remove? |
| 12:17.25 | jkp | basically i want to have a bunch of functions that are common between the postinst and postrm scripts and i want to source them from a third script |
| 12:17.35 | cjayho | chelsea, *http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 12:17.52 | jkp | the problem is that my extra script doesn't seem to be included in the final package...im sure im doing this wrong but i just dont know how |
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| 12:18.08 | thewanderer1 | cjayho: yes, IDE, namely CF cards on an IDE adaptor. will try ide=nodma, thanks. |
| 12:18.15 | dname | How to downgrade to PHP5.3 PHP5.2 in Debian 6? |
| 12:18.56 | thewanderer1 | dname: *why* would you want to do that? |
| 12:18.57 | cjayho | dname, if you have previously installed packages, try to force version in Synaptic |
| 12:19.14 | Chelsea | cjayho, thanks, it's strange to (re)install a package which I really want gone, but I'll try. |
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| 12:19.48 | dname | Some CMS do not support the full version 5.3 |
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| 12:19.50 | zerodeux | jkp: you have to include your common script in the package manifest, in debian/files or via another mean. What's in debian/ will not be automatically included. |
| 12:20.02 | meti | /msg dpkg squeeze |
| 12:20.03 | thewanderer1 | dname: are you sure this is a matter of PHP itself, not config? |
| 12:20.09 | meti | ops. |
| 12:20.21 | thewanderer1 | cjayho: no luck with ide=nodma... this has been bugging me for years :P |
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| 12:20.28 | balzar | hello everyone! this might not be the right place, but i hope you folks with bare with me as i am trying to get some pointers. i am trying to get a soundblaster xfi to work on debian amd64. the driver is loaded but the sound crackles like hell. help please? |
| 12:20.38 | balzar | something went wrong during the build of the driver, i have |
| 12:20.38 | balzar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.38 | balzar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.38 | balzar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:21.06 | dname | Not exactly sure, but at different sites in support of CMS said that the problem in most versions of PHP5.3. Something was removed or changed |
| 12:21.52 | cjayho | dname, or remove package and compile manually from sources |
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| 12:22.00 | jkp | zerodeux: thanks man |
| 12:22.02 | zerodeux | dname: it will be hard to downgrade PHP, mainly because PHP 5.2 is not in Debian 6.0 repositories. You first have to find a repository wich maintains PHP 5.2 package biult for Debian 6.0 (I'm not sure it exists), and then you'll realize that you'll need to also require/backport ALL php dependent packages. |
| 12:22.02 | jkp | ill try that |
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| 12:22.35 | Chelsea | The package which I'm trying to remove (thus reinstall ;)) isn't in the debian repo's. I might have added a repo, and removed it again. How can I fix this? |
| 12:22.48 | thewanderer1 | uhhh, I thought PHP5.2 has dropped security support? |
| 12:23.00 | dname | I understand that you need the configuration of PHP and CMS to configure? |
| 12:23.27 | zerodeux | Chelsea: whatever source was used to install a package (plain download of a .deb, APT, etc), 'apt-get remove <package-name>' should work |
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| 12:24.09 | cjayho | which IRC client for GNOME is more convenient? xchat is inconvenient |
| 12:24.33 | thewanderer1 | cjayho: try Pidgin? :) |
| 12:24.34 | Chelsea | zerodeux, it doesn't. It says: the package needs to be reinstalled, but can't find an archive for it. |
| 12:24.40 | balzar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.08 | balzar | however something went wrong during the build of the driver, i have scrapped the human readable content of the /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/ctxfi/snd-ctxfi.ko in this paist bin: http://pastebin.com/vQ0bKUMr |
| 12:25.10 | thewanderer1 | ,file jsautokw.h |
| 12:25.13 | judd | jsautokw.h in squeeze/i386: libmozjs-dev: usr/include/mozjs/jsautokw.h; xulrunner-dev: usr/include/xulrunner-1.9.1/unstable/jsautokw.h; kompozer-dev: usr/include/kompozer/js/jsautokw.h; icedove-dev: usr/include/icedove/unstable/jsautokw.h |
| 12:25.15 | cjayho | thewanderer1, hmm, i have gajim. i'll tru to make jabber transport here |
| 12:25.27 | zerodeux | Chelsea: I think the whole command + error message would help (I'm missing some context) |
| 12:25.34 | jkp | zerodeux: do i just list the files line by line in there? |
| 12:25.34 | thewanderer1 | cjayho: uh jabber transports. how about using native Pidgin IRC module? :P |
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| 12:25.43 | jkp | i have no example debian/files template |
| 12:26.30 | cjayho | thewanderer1, because pidgin is more inconvenient than even xchat :) |
| 12:26.54 | zerodeux | jkp: my mistake, it's not debian/files, I have to look it up. I personnaly copy files to be installed via the 'make install' target |
| 12:27.23 | Chelsea | Reading package lists... Done |
| 12:27.23 | Chelsea | Building dependency tree |
| 12:27.23 | Chelsea | Reading state information... Done |
| 12:27.23 | Chelsea | E: The package osmos needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
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| 12:27.29 | jkp | zerodeux: yeah these are really only needed during install |
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| 12:27.58 | jkp | i could do it that way but it would probably be a bit more painful...id end up copying them to /tmp or something anyway |
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| 12:28.53 | zerodeux | jkp: no, I mean: if your software can be installed manually with 'make install', then dpkg-buildpackage can automatically detect what's to be included in your package. So I'm just make sure 'make install' work and let debian helpers do the magic |
| 12:28.55 | Christoph_vW | hi, on my server eth1 doesn't work anymore since the last reboot - it is still shown by ifconfig -a, but not enabled anymore |
| 12:29.02 | Chelsea | zeroedout, the command I used was sudo apt-get remove osmos |
| 12:29.14 | Christoph_vW | it is set to static ip in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:31.27 | cjayho | Cristoph_vW, try sudo ifconfig eth1 inet ADDR netmask MASK up |
| 12:31.41 | zerodeux | jkp: what you want is one line in debian/install, see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#install |
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| 12:32.27 | zerodeux | Chelsea: without diving more in the exact state of your package, can you try: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq osmos |
| 12:33.03 | cjayho | Chalsea, do you have the osmos deb package? if yo have it, try to install this package using gdebi, or dpkg (from termonal). after this try apt-get remove osmos |
| 12:33.08 | jkp | zerodeux: right, thats what i was looking at, but im slightly confused |
| 12:33.21 | cjayho | *you |
| 12:33.21 | jkp | i have the file in my debian/ directory when im building the source package |
| 12:33.31 | cjayho | *terminal |
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| 12:33.53 | jkp | and really i dont want to "install" it anywwhere, i just want that file to be available to my postinst script |
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| 12:34.08 | jkp | so what would i put in the install file? it kinda implies im gonna install it somewhere :p |
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| 12:34.42 | cjayho | jkp, maybe "exit 0;" :) |
| 12:34.53 | jkp | cjayho: ) |
| 12:35.01 | zerodeux | jkp: there's no alternative, an available file is an installed file. Only post/pre-inst/rm scripts are magically handled ouf-of-band by dpkg |
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| 12:35.19 | Chelsea | zerodeux, that did it! thanks for helping, and teaching me another helpful apt-get command. |
| 12:35.21 | zerodeux | those files often end up in /usr/share/yourapp/helper.sh |
| 12:35.42 | zerodeux | Chelsea: that's a corner case, you should rather forget about it, it's ugly :) |
| 12:36.06 | Hexley | I need help with an admin question: I'v been using separate /home partition for quite a while now and I always fill in the user name and password after each install.. How do I use my previous data? Do I have to backup my /etc/passwd for that? |
| 12:36.11 | jkp | zerodeux: ok...i should basically just install them somewhere known |
| 12:36.51 | tvm | hexley: you'll need /etc/shadow aswell |
| 12:37.00 | zerodeux | jkp: yup, and that's /usr/share/<app>/... for script and /usr/lib/<app>/ for binaries, basically |
| 12:37.20 | tvm | hexley: and /etc/group possibly |
| 12:37.26 | Hexley | tvm, ok, so passwd and shadow will bring my old users passwords back |
| 12:37.31 | Hexley | ok |
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| 12:38.48 | Hexley | tvm, thanks, I'll give it a try later. |
| 12:38.49 | jkp | zerodeux: kk |
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| 12:40.34 | cherrybone | is linux-image-2.6-amd64 patched for openvz? |
| 12:40.51 | cherrybone | (I mean 2.6.39 in squeeze backports) |
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| 12:42.26 | cgc | anyone got any experience with tftpd-hpa? |
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| 12:44.28 | Christoph_vW | cjayho: this works - but what about the next reboot then? |
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| 12:45.16 | wols | Christoph_vW: what did ifup -a say?= |
| 12:45.29 | wols | Christoph_vW: or maybe show us your interfaces file |
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| 12:46.23 | Christoph_vW | http://pastebin.com/1zj2ivBN |
| 12:46.25 | cgc | does anyone know where I find out what options an application was compiled with? |
| 12:46.55 | wols | cgc: download the source package and look into /debian |
| 12:47.04 | Christoph_vW | wols: ifup -a -> no output |
| 12:47.14 | cgc | wols: thanks |
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| 12:47.57 | wols | Christoph_vW: then it should have just worked. no output = no error. does your network need firmware? |
| 12:47.58 | ectospasm | is it "ifup -a"? or "ifconfig -a"? |
| 12:48.22 | ectospasm | ...for a list of interfaces... |
| 12:48.29 | wols | ifup -a to get the network up. ifconfig -a is to show available network interfaces |
| 12:48.47 | ectospasm | must've misunderstood what was asked... |
| 12:49.27 | Christoph_vW | wols: no, it is a vm with two 10GE vmxnet3 adapters |
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| 12:51.12 | sylar | I am trying to install from synaptic the 2.6.39 kernel, and it want to remove all the other kernels due to that (?) |
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| 12:53.30 | HardDisk_WP | how do I find out if a containerfile containing an ext3 fs and mounted with mount -o loop,rw /path/to/container /mnt/container is acutally mounted? |
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| 12:53.51 | HardDisk_WP | lsof /path/to/container doesn't work, and mount shows only /dev/loop0 mounted on /mnt/container |
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| 12:54.14 | jaakkos | HardDisk_WP: use losetup to see what loop0 really is. |
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| 12:54.55 | HardDisk_WP | jaakkos, ah ok... but is there a way which can be used on the containerfile? |
| 12:55.05 | HardDisk_WP | i dont want to loop through all loopdevices |
| 12:55.11 | cjayho | Christoph_vW, put this in the /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 12:55.14 | HardDisk_WP | just to find out if the container is mounted |
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| 12:55.40 | simonlnu | /etc/rc.local |
| 12:56.08 | daniel-s | hi |
| 12:56.16 | daniel-s | forgot the command line tool for alsa sound levels |
| 12:56.41 | cgc | daniel-s: alsamixer |
| 12:57.21 | jaakkos | HardDisk_WP: well you need to make a block device to mount the file |
| 12:57.26 | cjayho | simonlu, /etc/rc.local doesn't work. It's wery strange, bit it is |
| 12:57.34 | cjayho | *but |
| 12:57.52 | cherrybone | any idea if this kernel is patched for openvz? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 12:58.01 | jaakkos | HardDisk_WP: anyway, parsing mounts and losetup -a both cannot be too difficult? :) |
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| 12:58.27 | HardDisk_WP | in python, it is, regexps in python suck |
| 12:58.47 | cjayho | HardDisk_WP, use perl |
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| 12:59.12 | HardDisk_WP | not possible, existing environment is python |
| 12:59.15 | HardDisk_WP | ^^ |
| 12:59.30 | cgc | cherrybone: you want something like this: linux-image-2.6-openvz-amd64 |
| 12:59.34 | HardDisk_WP | looks like i'll do tons of string splitting on losetup -a out then |
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| 13:00.24 | lenswipe | hey guys |
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| 13:00.33 | lenswipe | im trying to install the android sdk on debian squeeze |
| 13:00.33 | cherrybone | cgc: For performance reasons, I prefer a newer kernel. That one is 2.6.32 |
| 13:00.43 | lenswipe | do i just grab the latest from their website and compile it? |
| 13:01.14 | cjayho | HardDisk_WP, try to 'cat /etc/mtab', it's list of actually mounted devices |
| 13:01.15 | cgc | cherrybone: compile your own? |
| 13:01.22 | wols | cherrybone: get it and check its .config file |
| 13:01.47 | wols | but probably not. and as cgc said, you can create your own. /msg dpkg kernel-package |
| 13:01.51 | cherrybone | cgc: for reasons of anonymity when browsing in a vm, it's better to use a stock kernel |
| 13:02.03 | jaakkos | HardDisk_WP: http://pastebin.com/kkTxYiSi |
| 13:02.04 | cherrybone | wols: good idea, will check .config file |
| 13:02.06 | HardDisk_WP | cjayho, same problem as `mount` - it only says /dev/loop0. anyway i'll use losetup -j /filename and compare its output to empty string |
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| 13:02.31 | jaakkos | HardDisk_WP: anyway -j seems like a good idea |
| 13:02.49 | HardDisk_WP | thx for the script, didn't know os has a popen too, only subprocess |
| 13:03.17 | wols | HardDisk_WP: popen is deprecated. it's subprocess nowadays |
| 13:03.24 | jaakkos | iirc os.popen is a bit deprecated though |
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| 13:03.42 | HardDisk_WP | yep and in there it's a bit more work to read a process's output |
| 13:04.04 | Minkben | how do I force all created files and dirs within a specific directory to ALWAYS be owned by a specific group? So that newly created stuff isn't owned by the user who created it |
| 13:04.57 | Minkben | does it work like that if I do chmod u-wrx g+wrx instead of ug+wrx? |
| 13:06.42 | an0 | how can I switch to 64bit java and then make sure all java apps use it and not the 32bit version? |
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| 13:08.34 | wols | an0: are you running 64bit debian? |
| 13:08.39 | an0 | yes |
| 13:09.29 | wols | an0: what makes you think it's a 32bit version? |
| 13:10.05 | an0 | I guess because it doesn't say 64bit beside it when i run `java -version`, and nowadays, it's usually specified. Is there a way to tell? |
| 13:11.12 | wols | an0: file <path to your java binary> |
| 13:11.20 | wols | it tells you if it's a i386 or amd64 binary |
| 13:12.05 | an0 | Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03) |
| 13:12.33 | wols | that is not the output of file |
| 13:12.47 | an0 | oh, sorry, missed that. one sec |
| 13:13.05 | an0 | what is a typical path to the binary? |
| 13:13.11 | wols | which java |
| 13:13.12 | an0 | (sorry, noob..) |
| 13:13.15 | an0 | k |
| 13:13.19 | cgc | which [binary] |
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| 13:14.31 | an0 | k it says ELF 64-bit LSB executable |
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| 13:14.35 | an0 | guess that's my answer :) |
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| 13:15.07 | systemclient | Linitan tells me "no upstream changelog". Given I'm upstream, how do I name my changelog and what format does it have? |
| 13:15.12 | an0 | thanks! |
| 13:15.47 | cgc | does anyone have any experience with tftpd-hpa? |
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| 13:17.06 | sammi` | cgc:when you need net-install,you will use it. |
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| 13:17.42 | thewanderer1 | hey, how do I pass gcc/g++ flags when building with scons? |
| 13:17.51 | thewanderer1 | (I want -march=native and -pipe) |
| 13:18.04 | cjayho | sammi`, why? i've mirrored debian repository to http server and using netinstall |
| 13:18.06 | dashs | Whatiz the proper place to put environment vars that you want in every shell? |
| 13:18.35 | wols | dashs: /etc/environment possibly |
| 13:18.51 | wols | thewanderer1: CFLAGS? |
| 13:18.56 | cgc | sammi`: i'm trying to set up a provisioning server for phones, but for some reason the tftpd-hpa server refuses to let anyone other than itself download files off of it, i've tried adding stuff to /etc/hosts.allow but i just get it to work! |
| 13:19.02 | sammi` | tftpd is more trivial |
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| 13:19.31 | dashs | wols: think that's for locale stuff. |
| 13:19.38 | thewanderer1 | wols: that was my first try, yes... didn't work. imagine that! :P |
| 13:20.10 | cgc | sammi`: the thing is i've set up many tftpd-hpa servers and they all work for net booting, but if i try to download files off of them using tftp-hpa, it refuses |
| 13:20.12 | cjayho | thewanderer1, maybe CXXFLAGS for c++ program? |
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| 13:20.38 | wols | dashs: think again. e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables (applies to debian too) |
| 13:20.40 | sammi` | cgc: oic |
| 13:20.46 | jaakkos | thewanderer1: eg. env.Append(CXXFLAGS = "my flags") |
| 13:20.59 | jaakkos | (for C++) |
| 13:21.04 | cgc | sammi`: it just times out, and nothing is pu in the syslog except for the RRQ made by the client |
| 13:21.20 | thewanderer1 | jaakkos: hmm, that looks like it could work... cjayho, I did CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS |
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| 13:21.54 | dashs | wols: what about /etc/profile (profile.d)? |
| 13:23.16 | Burps | Hi : since squeeze, when I 'sudo -l', allowed commands are all listed on 1 line : is it possible to have it in multiple lines as before ? |
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| 13:25.10 | jason404 | what is the purpose of the nobody user and nogroup group? |
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| 13:26.00 | cjayho | Burps, maybe 'sudo -ll' |
| 13:26.38 | cjayho | jason404 to run untrusted apps :) |
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| 13:27.10 | jason404 | cjayho: okay thanks |
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| 13:27.51 | cgc | sammi`: i guess i will just have to set up an ftp server instead as no one seems to know how to troubleshoot a tftpd-hpa problem! :( |
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| 13:28.36 | jason404 | I have a bunch of files which have permissions and user/groups, which I want to keep as they are, but I want the files updated with new versions. How can I copy the new files over them but keep the same user/group and permissions># |
| 13:29.17 | sammi` | sshd cannot serve ur need? |
| 13:29.21 | cgc | jason404: cp -a? or just change the permissions after the copy |
| 13:30.04 | cgc | sammi`: no, the phones only support ftp, tftp http or https, i could use apache i suppose, i don't know what is more resource hungry, proftpd or apache? |
| 13:30.12 | jason404 | cgc: there are many files in a tree of directories, so that is not feasible |
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| 13:30.30 | sammi` | what about thttpd |
| 13:30.33 | jason404 | I guess a bash script will be needed? |
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| 13:31.54 | cgc | sammi`: never used it, is it any good? |
| 13:32.19 | sammi` | lightweight i think |
| 13:32.55 | jason404 | yeh, thttpd is lightweight. I know a guy who has been using it on slackware since the '90s |
| 13:32.59 | cgc | sammi`: could try that, the only problem with http or https is unless i setup webdav, i can't get the phones to log to it |
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| 13:34.08 | edbian | Using icedove on Debian stable. There are previous and next buttons (in the view of an email) but they don't work! Suggestions? |
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| 13:36.35 | rlfx | hey, i have problem with installing and uinistalling mysql-server, can somebody tell me what to do? http://pastebin.com/HQRNubWe I seen this problem on google, but can't find any thing useful |
| 13:36.38 | cjayho | edbian, just checked it - everything works OK |
| 13:37.13 | edbian | cjayho: really? I click the buttons and nothing happens. Can you elaborate a bit? What order to the things go in? |
| 13:38.38 | edbian | Ohhh, they are working... but by some strange criteria. Unread messages? |
| 13:40.59 | wols | !tell rlfx about lsb tags |
| 13:41.20 | rlfx | !tell rlfx about lsb tags |
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| 13:42.02 | wols | rlfx: dpkg sent you a message the first time. no need to retry |
| 13:43.03 | cjayho | edbian, sorry, i checked on recentle read messages. on unread messages these buttons don't work |
| 13:43.08 | linux2 | In debian I am having an issue with executing files located on a NTFS partition. It says that the files do not have executable permissions and I can't add an executable permission flag to the file. Is there some setting I can set upon mounting to allow files to be executed on that filesystem? The executable file is from compiled c code. |
| 13:43.09 | cjayho | *recently |
| 13:43.10 | rlfx | wols, yes, sorry, don't noticed this at first |
| 13:43.21 | edbian | cjayho: Yes, agreed. |
| 13:43.29 | edbian | which is just silly! :P |
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| 13:44.09 | cjayho | linux2, try to set umask=000 to /etc/fstab for ntfs partition |
| 13:44.13 | wols | linux2: what is the output of "mount" for the partition? |
| 13:44.40 | poncha | hi. when running debian in a VM, there are cases that a MAC changes - for example if a "wise" admin removes/readds a network card - vmware generates a new MAC, or when the machine migrates from one vm host to another. this results in loss of network connectivity since network interfaces are configured by device name and on MAC change the system generates new device name.... |
| 13:44.50 | linux2 | wols, /dev/sdb1 on /media/9E62-0B38 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,uhelper=udisks) |
| 13:45.22 | systemclient | Linitan tells me "no upstream changelog". Given I'm upstream, how do I name my changelog and what format does it have? |
| 13:45.26 | wols | linux2: uname -r |
| 13:45.28 | poncha | is it possible to "survive" such brutal changes? (eg in case the old remembered MAC is gone, rid of its device and let the new card take over same device name? |
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| 13:46.04 | linux2 | wols, 3.0.0-1-686-pae |
| 13:46.06 | cjayho | poncha ifconfig eth0 hwaddr ether AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF |
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| 13:47.10 | poncha | cjayho: for that i need to login to the machine as root. if i'm already there i can edit udev configs and restart udev and networking |
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| 13:47.28 | poncha | cjayho: i am talking about machine surviving this alone |
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| 13:48.08 | cjayho | poncha add to your /etc/init.d/rc.local or add to pre-up or post-up line for your network interface |
| 13:48.14 | linux2 | sorry about that. I'm on a sprint connection and sometimes it drops. wols if you said anything could you re-paste it? |
| 13:48.16 | wols | !tell poncha about 70 |
| 13:48.27 | wols | linux2: I did not |
| 13:48.28 | cjayho | ifconfig eth0 hwaddr ether AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF |
| 13:48.34 | cga_work | hi all, how can I set manually a static route on Squeeze? |
| 13:48.53 | wols | cjayho: how does this help with his problem? |
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| 13:49.05 | cjayho | cga_work route add -net ADDR netmask MASK gw GATEWAY |
| 13:49.19 | cjayho | route add default gw GATEWAY |
| 13:49.35 | cga_work | hi cjayho , does that set i permanent? I should edit a file? |
| 13:49.58 | bolt | When I start my laptop, with bluetooth-applet and gnome-network-manager, it will automatically connect to my phone, and "Phone Network" shows up as an option when I click the network manager. I can then connect, and use the internet. However, when I disconnect it, it also disconnects the bluetooth, and never tries to acquire it again, so I can't connect a second time. How can I make it attempt to connect to my phone again? |
| 13:50.08 | cjayho | not, it will not set permanent, use /etc/init.d/rc.local to add route when linux boots |
| 13:50.09 | wols | cjayho: post-up script for your interfaces file |
| 13:50.19 | wols | cga_work: don't use rc.local |
| 13:50.24 | cga_work | cool |
| 13:50.35 | cjayho | wols, why? |
| 13:50.41 | wols | cjayho: cause it's the wrong place |
| 13:50.47 | cga_work | wooden: is it /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 13:50.50 | wols | cjayho: and please answer my above question |
| 13:50.59 | poncha | cjayho: this will force a specific mac onto the ethernet interface? so it will override even if the device changed "real" address ? |
| 13:51.08 | cga_work | wols: do you have an example? |
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| 13:52.00 | cjayho | wols. oops, sorry. |
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| 13:52.25 | wols | cga_work: http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+post-up+interfaces take your pick |
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| 13:52.47 | wols | cga_work: in particular http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/377 |
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| 13:54.21 | cjayho | poncha, yes |
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| 13:55.27 | wols | poncha: it will but it won't solve your problem since the interface is still named "eth2" or whatever instead of "eth0" |
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| 13:55.52 | poncha | wols not good ;) |
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| 13:56.14 | poncha | i need to keep the interface name at all costs :) |
| 13:56.20 | wols | poncha: I gave dpkg a command to message you something. read it please |
| 13:56.32 | wols | poncha: especially the forcedeth mac for example |
| 13:57.40 | poncha | wols: the first part is not really helpful (i know about udev configs... but that requires manual action). checking out forecedeth |
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| 13:58.46 | wols | poncha: it explains to you how it all works. and if you did know about it, you wouldn't ask :P |
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| 14:09.55 | HashNuke | bolt: I figured out how to load the user's env finally. I just moved everything I wanted into the user's .bash_profile and that's loaded every time I execute a command using su -l username -c "command". Just that in my case, I'm dumping everything into a shell script so that'll save me from having to escape the $ signs or anything else :D |
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| 14:10.07 | HashNuke | bolt: thanks a lot! |
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| 14:12.03 | lenswipe | how do i install android SDK on debian squeeze? |
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| 14:15.10 | wols | lenswipe: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html |
| 14:15.26 | wols | !tell lenswipe about install java |
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| 14:18.15 | thewanderer1 | hey, there has been a functional change in 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 14:18.35 | thewanderer1 | netboot now fails when 2 network devices are active and ip= bootarg is not specified |
| 14:19.11 | somiaj | have you checked the bts -- personally I dont see why this would change since only security holes are fixed but you should also check the changelog |
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| 14:19.36 | thewanderer1 | my problem is, previously the IP config stage passed when at least 1 interface went up |
| 14:19.46 | thewanderer1 | now it waits for all of them, but not all are even connected on the machine |
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| 14:20.15 | thewanderer1 | so it's sending DHCP requests time after time and then panics a few mins later O.o |
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| 14:20.57 | Class | hey folks anyone knows how to enable rlogin on debian squeeze ? I know that its not secure etc etc . . . |
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| 14:22.31 | petemc | Class: did you try 'apt-cache search rlogin' ? |
| 14:22.51 | somiaj | thewanderer1: well the bts and changelog is the first place to look, you can also file a bug if you belive it is one. |
| 14:23.11 | somiaj | thewanderer1: the changelog can be found in /usr/share/doc/<pkg name> |
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| 14:23.37 | thewanderer1 | somiaj: I know, just there doesn't seem to be anything relevant... and I'm not sure if it's the kernel or the initramfs scripts O.o |
| 14:24.27 | Class | petemc, aah so i need to install rhost server first ? i see RhostsRSAAuthentication in sshd config file but i do not have any clue why is it located in sshd config |
| 14:24.47 | somiaj | thewanderer1: I don't use that feature so I wouldn know where to look. Did you check any of the DSA that were assoicated with the kernel that could say what hole was fixed (maybe this was an inavertant bug from that) |
| 14:25.23 | thewanderer1 | somiaj: I read the DSA regularly, yes, and I don't think anything relevant was mentioned |
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| 14:25.42 | wols | Class: you need to install rsh-redone-server |
| 14:25.42 | thewanderer1 | I'll try some snapshot packages I guess |
| 14:25.55 | thewanderer1 | or install Squeeze from DVD without net access and see |
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| 14:27.54 | somiaj | thewanderer1: I can't be of much help then. Hopefully you figure it out, but file a bug (kernel panics should be a bug of the kernel even if something else is causing it, the kernel shouldn't panic with a misbehaved app) |
| 14:28.22 | lenswipe | wolfric, ..... |
| 14:28.26 | lenswipe | wols, ..... |
| 14:28.48 | thewanderer1 | somiaj: actually the panic is the usual boot panic when it can't boot, but the change was something unexpected... I upload a new image and w00t! users scream :P |
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| 14:29.57 | Class | wols, how should i start it ? |
| 14:31.00 | somiaj | thewanderer1: those are never the good surprizes. |
| 14:31.12 | thewanderer1 | true :P |
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| 14:31.36 | lenswipe | throws things at wols |
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| 14:32.38 | wols | lenswipe: you are new at this irc thing and have no clue how it works, right? right? |
| 14:32.45 | lenswipe | i know exactly how it works |
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| 14:32.49 | lenswipe | i dont see what the problem is |
| 14:32.59 | lenswipe | im asking how to install the android SDK and you're trying to tell me to install java |
| 14:33.08 | lenswipe | i have Java and JDK installed i dont see how that gets me any further |
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| 14:33.35 | wols | lenswipe: newsflash. google tells you the same. do you know more about android than google? |
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| 14:33.52 | nkuttler | lenswipe: there's also #android-dev etc |
| 14:33.55 | wols | lenswipe: have you read the page I linked? so what is so hard about it? |
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| 14:34.48 | wols | and without java, eclipse (and ADT) will be quite unhappy |
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| 14:37.39 | Class | anyone knows how to start this damn rsh-redone-server ? it is not running and its not under init.d nor in services and even there is no man page |
| 14:37.52 | lenswipe | wols, i have java installed, im not sure how an article telling me how to install JDK avails me much given that fact |
| 14:38.08 | lenswipe | nkuttler, yes, they pointed me to an article telling me how to do it on windows |
| 14:38.14 | wols | lenswipe: there is more than one jdk |
| 14:38.36 | lenswipe | i know |
| 14:38.42 | lenswipe | i have JDK and eclipse installed |
| 14:38.44 | wols | lenswipe: and you STILL haven't read the link I gave you. |
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| 14:39.13 | thewanderer1 | ok, seems like the culprit is some initramfs script not configuring networking properly, but why it's not doing that I don't know yet |
| 14:39.26 | lenswipe | wols, i have read it and i have JDK |
| 14:39.31 | thewanderer1 | seems to rely on a variable from pxelinux which disappears along the way |
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| 14:40.58 | wols | lenswipe: then you maybe should state the actual problem you have with it. I also suggest to google "How to get help on irc". you need that badly |
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| 14:41.43 | jelly | he's been needing that for months now, I don't think it's gonna help |
| 14:41.58 | helo | i have a process that should be taking up about 40MB of ram, and when i run it with 115MB free it is killed, and i suddenly have 150MB of unevictable memory in use |
| 14:42.10 | helo | killed due to oom, ofc |
| 14:42.37 | wols | helo: and what uses these 150MB of unevictable (nice word...) memory? |
| 14:42.40 | helo | if the process is killed, shouldn't the memory it was (supposedly) using be gone too? |
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| 14:42.59 | helo | wols: i don't know how to find out... memory usage from ps is all really low |
| 14:43.14 | helo | this is running in initramfs root extracted from a debian install |
| 14:43.25 | wols | so what does top or free say about your memory? |
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| 14:43.34 | wols | !wayttd helo |
| 14:43.34 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, helo? |
| 14:43.39 | wols | need more context |
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| 14:44.08 | helo | i'm loading a qt3 app on an embedded arm system |
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| 14:45.26 | lenswipe | wols, http://imagebin.org/172416 |
| 14:45.29 | helo | before i tried running from initramfs it worked fine, no memory problems, plenty of free space for initramfs even |
| 14:45.35 | lenswipe | i cant click accept and proceed with the install |
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| 14:46.38 | helo | i'd like to find out why 150MB is unevictable |
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| 14:48.55 | helo | free says 150MB is cached after i run the process |
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| 14:51.25 | cjayho | bye all |
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| 14:52.09 | bododo | hi folks! |
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| 14:52.43 | bododo | I just upgraded iceweasel from 3.5 to 6.0 and it looks like xulrunner 6 is linked to the wrong sqlitelib? |
| 14:52.51 | ansgar | helo: The 'cached' column in free's output? That is used by the disk cached and will be freed if anything more interesting comes around. |
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| 14:53.29 | somiaj | !tell free ram |
| 14:53.35 | somiaj | !tell helo about free ram |
| 14:53.37 | ironmunk | anyone know why I am unable to delete a vmlinuz file from /boot (it's not the kernel I'm running) |
| 14:53.46 | bododo | It seems that iceweasel isn't using the right version of sqlite |
| 14:54.08 | wols | ironmunk: you can delete the kernel even when you are running it. what error do you get? |
| 14:54.13 | somiaj | ironmunk: are aren't root? /boot is a partition mounted read only? why are you trying to delete a vmlinuz file, you should remove the resulting kernel pacakge) |
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| 14:54.56 | somiaj | bododo: where did you get this iceweasel 6.0 and what version of debian are you running? |
| 14:55.05 | ironmunk | same partition as / and I am root |
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| 14:55.12 | bododo | in other words, I have a more generic problem: I have two versions of libsqlite3-0 (one in /usr/lib and the other in /usr/local/lib) |
| 14:55.20 | bododo | somiaj: from sid |
| 14:55.29 | bododo | somiaj: I mean I'm on sid |
| 14:55.33 | wols | bododo: the one in /usr/local is not from debian. how did you install it? |
| 14:55.41 | ironmunk | I get this: rm: cannot remove `vmlinuz-2.6.32.7': No such file or directory |
| 14:55.48 | ironmunk | rm -rf return nothing |
| 14:55.51 | helo | ansgar: /proc/meminfo shows 145MB is Unevictable |
| 14:55.57 | wols | ironmunk: ls /boot/vmlin* |
| 14:56.03 | helo | ansgar: so i think that cached is wront, because it includes Unevictable pages |
| 14:56.08 | helo | wrong |
| 14:56.14 | ironmunk | but upgrade grub picks it up and places it at the top which is annoying as I have deleted everything else |
| 14:56.33 | bododo | wols: I honnestly don't remmeber, how do I make the one in /usr/lib the default? |
| 14:56.35 | ironmunk | ok that does not return it wols |
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| 14:56.51 | ironmunk | wtf |
| 14:56.54 | ironmunk | it's gone now |
| 14:56.55 | bododo | This is my problem in fact: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.mozilla/9660 |
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| 14:57.17 | ironmunk | how could that have taken so long? |
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| 14:57.29 | bododo | wols: ah probably from qt? (a supposition, actually) |
| 14:57.47 | jelly | helo: do you have a swap at all? Which kernel version? |
| 14:57.48 | wols | bododo: why not simply delete the /usr/local one? |
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| 14:58.12 | bododo | wols: would that affect other apps? |
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| 14:58.16 | bododo | probably |
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| 14:58.26 | somiaj | bododo: check your $PATH, it always reads though it in order and /usr/local is by default higher priority than /usr |
| 14:58.30 | bododo | I mean, how do I checkout what uses it |
| 14:58.40 | wols | depends why and how you installed it. you run sid, so you should know your system |
| 14:58.53 | wols | bododo: everything uses it. it's in /usr/local |
| 14:58.55 | bododo | somiaj: ah! so I should in fact precede /usr/local by /usr |
| 14:59.07 | wols | bododo: no you should not |
| 14:59.10 | somiaj | bododo: no you should fix why you have this erronous sqlite hiding there. |
| 14:59.13 | helo | kernel 2.6.32.9 compiled from a chinese ipad knockoff android tablet vendor's code drop |
| 14:59.16 | helo | no swap |
| 14:59.37 | bododo | somiaj: I think it's probably from Qt ? |
| 15:00.02 | helo | recalls something about swap and freeing killed process memory |
| 15:00.03 | somiaj | bododo: I don't know -- what sort of source code are you compling and installing with make; make install? |
| 15:00.40 | bododo | somiaj: I write qt apps, and often yes, I install apps from source code |
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| 15:00.52 | bododo | for eg. my vim, my git, ratpoison.. are from sources |
| 15:01.18 | somiaj | well that is how you got it there, should figure out what one |
| 15:01.37 | somiaj | bododo: why do you install them from source? Ever think of compling them into custom deb pacakges (That is what I do with my source code installs on sid) |
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| 15:02.14 | bododo | somiaj: well, to be honnest, I'm rather ignorant of debian's debs. I'm an archlinux mostly |
| 15:02.28 | bododo | but anyways... that's not and excuse, I know |
| 15:03.42 | somiaj | bododo: that was just a future suggestion. But no you do not want to change the order of /usr/local and /usr in your $PATH, with all y our source installs you do want that right order. You just need to locate why sqlite is hiding there. (this is one reason why compling debs makes managging the software a little easier) |
| 15:03.42 | somiaj | bododo: also have you ever heard of stow |
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| 15:04.07 | bododo | somiaj: stow? |
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| 15:04.37 | bododo | somiaj: what is it? |
| 15:04.41 | somiaj | bododo: /msg dpkg stow (it makes managinign installs in /usr/local easier to locate where things came from) |
| 15:04.50 | Cradam | hello is there something in aptitude or dpkg that will allow me to set linux back to the packages that were installed when i installed |
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| 15:04.54 | bododo | somiaj: thank you! :) |
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| 15:05.36 | somiaj | bododo: just more advise for future adminstration, really won't get much help on your actual error because its sid + lots of custom stuff you did on top of it. |
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| 15:06.30 | bododo | somiaj: True! Thanks a lot for your patience and help :) |
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| 15:09.19 | jelly | helo: enable some swap, older kernels have issues reclaiming pages in absence of some |
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| 15:09.31 | jelly | helo: this is a kernel issue. |
| 15:09.52 | gary_golden | is there public available list of english first and last names? one per line would be cool. Need it for testing data. |
| 15:10.17 | p0g0 | phone books? |
| 15:10.31 | Cradam | lol |
| 15:10.55 | gary_golden | p0g0: can work. going to search the web for it :) |
| 15:11.18 | Cradam | you wont find it in an easy to copy paste wat |
| 15:11.20 | Cradam | *way |
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| 15:15.26 | helo | jelly: will give it a shot, thanks for the suggestion |
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| 15:19.32 | gary_golden | Cradam: it seems you're right |
| 15:20.15 | gary_golden | could only find a propietary version for win |
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| 15:20.33 | mat619 | hi there! some of you may remind my odyssey of installing any release on a VIA C3 based system - before I flood you with other questions the good news: squeeze is running! |
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| 15:21.11 | mat619 | turns out the segfaults and alike were caused by the CPU overheating. apparently the heat sink couldn't handle 30 min or more of full CPU heat. |
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| 15:21.47 | mat619 | now my new questions - does anyone know if it's possible to control the CPU fan speed on a VIA CL266 chipset based board? |
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| 15:22.26 | Kre10s_ | hello. I am trying to install php5-fpm... "apt-get install php5-fpm" but apt says "E: Unable to locate package php5-fpm"... what could be wrong? |
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| 15:22.55 | Cradam | Kre10s_: try apt-cache search php5 |
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| 15:23.06 | archetech | sourrces.list is the prob |
| 15:23.15 | archetech | sources* |
| 15:23.31 | bzed | !tell Kre10s_ about sources.list |
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| 15:23.55 | Cradam | thats a wierd bot syntax |
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| 15:24.00 | razz_ | how to update hdparm to the latest version I believe it's 9.37, currently the version on Ubuntu 10.04 is 9.15, I tried asking in Ubuntu channel, no luck. |
| 15:24.22 | bzed | Kre10s_: actually php5-fpm ist not included in squeeze |
| 15:24.28 | Cradam | razz_: sorry but that would be offtopic |
| 15:24.33 | gary_golden | Kre10s_: it's only in sid and wheezy |
| 15:24.38 | boudiccas | razz_; if you're running ubuntu then ask in their channel, we don't support ubuntu here |
| 15:24.38 | bzed | Kre10s_: you either need a backport or run testing (which you don't want) |
| 15:24.46 | bzed | Kre10s_: or just don't use the fpm stuff :P |
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| 15:25.36 | Kre10s_ | bzed, hmm. ok. so I won't use fpm stuff. backports make updating messy. |
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| 15:25.51 | Kre10s_ | How can I automatically restart a process when it crashes? |
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| 15:28.04 | mat619 | ok nvm my last question, got something more important - my XFCE doesn't start anymore! I'm stuck after the logon dialogue, it stopped loading on the gray background which should only be visible for a few seconds |
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| 15:28.34 | mat619 | any ideas what's wrong? tried choosing a fresh XFCE session instead of loading the old one, but that doesn't help |
| 15:28.49 | somiaj | bzed: ubuntu has a backport repo? |
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| 15:36.44 | gary_golden | I found names/surnames at census.gov http://1.usa.gov/oDd6RY |
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| 15:39.51 | me-1 | hi...how can i conpile a c language programme in debian |
| 15:40.55 | Kre10s_ | me-1, depends on what you are trying to compile... |
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| 15:41.42 | me-1 | Kre10s_, a C language programme (not C++) |
| 15:41.48 | Kre10s_ | if you want to compile a package from source, it will normally come with build instructions... |
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| 15:42.06 | me-1 | no I am learning C language |
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| 15:42.22 | Kre10s_ | ah. ok. then all you need is a C compiler. |
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| 15:42.43 | cantido | learning how computers work helps with C coding too :) |
| 15:42.44 | Shadur | You'll want to install gcc, and probably build-essential just to get that out of the way. |
| 15:42.45 | Kre10s_ | with gcc you can gcc infile.c -o outfile and later ./outfile |
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| 15:42.48 | miko | A degubber is also recommanded for a beginner :-) |
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| 15:43.04 | miko | a debugger.... |
| 15:43.23 | cantido | me-1: get a new version of eclipse, the one in debian in old as hell, and use the CDT |
| 15:43.31 | Kre10s_ | :P printf debugging! |
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| 15:43.42 | cantido | me-1: you can do source level debugging with its GDB frontend |
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| 15:44.08 | cantido | Kre10s_: or write yourself a GDB stub and save a ton of head ache |
| 15:44.10 | me-1 | I a a rookie I think gcc will be fine for me |
| 15:44.11 | Kre10s_ | nooo! no eclipse! don't worry about learning some dev environment if you are new to C. |
| 15:44.12 | blackxored | Hey guys, I know this is offtopic, but was wondering are there any Cubans living in the US right now on the Debian channel? |
| 15:44.24 | me-1 | can I use g++ for C ..? |
| 15:44.29 | miko | yes |
| 15:44.30 | cantido | me-1: g++ |
| 15:44.40 | Kre10s_ | text editor + make + gcc |
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| 15:45.01 | cantido | Kre10s_: the CDT is very good .. |
| 15:45.04 | me-1 | so I cant use g++ for C? |
| 15:45.06 | miko | I agree withh Kre10s_ |
| 15:45.12 | Kre10s_ | add the C specification to that |
| 15:45.16 | miko | me_1 : yes |
| 15:45.32 | miko | you can, the executable may be a little different in size |
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| 15:45.33 | blackxored | Anyone? |
| 15:45.42 | miko | It does not wonder |
| 15:46.06 | me-1 | i save a C++ programme like filename.cpp , what extension C uses? |
| 15:46.11 | windparadise_ | Hello, I want to look for any file with teh csv extension in my folder, what command do I use ? |
| 15:46.23 | gary_golden | windparadise_: find -name *.csv |
| 15:46.26 | cantido | me-1: cpp for c++, not that gcc cares |
| 15:46.35 | windparadise_ | thz |
| 15:46.52 | Kre10s_ | me-1, save your c files as .c and your c headers as .h |
| 15:46.53 | cantido | me-1: you can use g++ to compile most C code too, which is useful when you want to link C and C++ parts |
| 15:47.11 | miko | cantido: I do not understand what you mean |
| 15:47.33 | cantido | miko: have you ever linked C objects with C++ ones? |
| 15:47.36 | miko | windparadise : ls *.csv |
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| 15:47.47 | me-1 | cantido, when I compile a C programme with g++ it always gives me error |
| 15:47.49 | miko | cantido: not sure, but probably |
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| 15:48.05 | _jesse_ | hey all, I was listening to music and abrumptly got the error "ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection terminated" I tried various combinations of pulseaudio -D and /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start |
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| 15:48.16 | _jesse_ | it doesn't throw the error anymore, but there is no sound |
| 15:48.17 | cantido | miko: try linking something compiled with gcc to something compiled with g++, see if you dont get link errors |
| 15:48.24 | Kre10s_ | me-1, use gcc... what is the error you are getting? |
| 15:48.24 | miko | I use gcc for C programs, and g++ for C an C++ mixed programs |
| 15:48.34 | cantido | miko: unless you have extern "C" .. to add C linkage |
| 15:49.36 | me-1 | Kre10s_, like it does not have conio.h header file |
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| 15:49.44 | miko | cantido : I was not understanding the meaning of not that gcc cares |
| 15:49.58 | cantido | me-1: you can't compile all C with g++, most of the time you can though, usually the fix is to mod your headers so the source is preprocessed into something that is valid in C++ |
| 15:50.02 | miko | me-1 : compiling a windows C program ? |
| 15:50.21 | cantido | miko: if you do gcc myshittyapp.sausages -o myshittyapp gcc will still compile it |
| 15:50.30 | cantido | miko: gcc doesnt care about file names |
| 15:50.45 | cantido | your make file might, gcc doesnt |
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| 15:50.52 | miko | ah.... |
| 15:51.25 | Kre10s_ | you can even specify what a file should be treated as... asm c c++ objective c etc. |
| 15:51.29 | jevidl__ | I've been trying to get a VNC server setup on a fresh Debian squeeze install. I was trying to use the vnc.so library to get support right in Xorg, but it looks like it's not included. I found some older bugs on bugs.debian.org, but I don't see anything current. The only one I saw suggested that it might be fixed in the currently provided vnc4server package, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any suggestions, or should I start thinking |
| 15:51.29 | jevidl__ | about compiling vnc4server from scratch to get the module? |
| 15:51.50 | miko | I am too rigourous in naming my files to meet this issue :-) |
| 15:52.06 | Kre10s_ | high fives miko |
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| 15:52.44 | jmarsden | miko: So, you are saying that your source files *always* end in .sausages ? :) |
| 15:53.12 | miko | So, if I well understand : cc is to gcc what cpp is to g++ ? |
| 15:53.14 | Kre10s_ | v_v |
| 15:53.45 | miko | jmarsden : no, I prefer saucisse :-) |
| 15:53.50 | bzed | miko: no. cpp is the c pre-processor. gcc is the gnu c compiler. and g++ is the gnu c++ compiler |
| 15:54.17 | jmarsden | miko: Cool, localized sausages :) |
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| 15:54.34 | miko | Of course. I knew that, and forgot it |
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| 16:02.20 | sylar | [10336.836012] usb 2-1: device not accepting address 6, error -71", ??" |
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| 16:03.53 | brack9 | Hey |
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| 16:04.19 | brack9 | When I'm partitioning for a new install, I want to make applications install on a separate volume than the one I mount on /. Is that possible? |
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| 16:04.56 | boudiccas | brack9; set one up as /isr |
| 16:05.08 | boudiccas | correction /usr |
| 16:05.14 | brack9 | ok |
| 16:05.35 | wols | brack9: why do you want to do this? |
| 16:05.48 | wols | brack9: linux doesn't work like windows where you can have a separate drive for \games or such |
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| 16:06.19 | brack9 | wols: I have a 4 gig SSD and an 8 gig SD card |
| 16:06.30 | brack9 | I keep running out of space on the 4 gig of course, so I want to put my applications on a different volume |
| 16:06.52 | somiaj | brack9: check the different sizes of /usr /var /home etc |
| 16:07.00 | SerajewelKS | brack9: du -s /* | sort -n |
| 16:07.20 | SerajewelKS | rather, du -sx /* | sort -n |
| 16:07.34 | somiaj | brack9: you can put any one of those on its own partition but you want to keep the install media where the packages want to put it. |
| 16:07.49 | brack9 | hmm |
| 16:07.53 | SerajewelKS | it's possible that /usr might not be the largest directory |
| 16:07.57 | SerajewelKS | somiaj: "install media?" |
| 16:08.01 | brack9 | yeah I already formatted it so too late to find out |
| 16:08.13 | somiaj | SerajewelKS: programs, what ever is installed by dpkg |
| 16:08.21 | brack9 | can I put both /home and /usr on the separate partition? |
| 16:08.31 | SerajewelKS | brack9: with a bit of hackery, yes |
| 16:08.32 | somiaj | SerajewelKS: files is probabaly more apporporiate word than media (: |
| 16:08.56 | somiaj | brack9: you'd have to connect them via a link |
| 16:09.01 | SerajewelKS | somiaj: i'm not sure it matters. if you create mounts, the files will go to the appropriate volume by themselves. |
| 16:09.05 | brack9 | Gotcha |
| 16:09.12 | SerajewelKS | brack9: you could either symlink or mount --bind |
| 16:09.27 | somiaj | brack9: so have a /usr/local/home -- and make a link from /home to /usr/local/home |
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| 16:09.47 | SerajewelKS | ehn, that's not really what /usr/local is for |
| 16:09.52 | brack9 | I see |
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| 16:10.04 | sylar | I am gettin a whole lot of: "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71" |
| 16:10.10 | sylar | anyone know what to do about that? |
| 16:10.33 | somiaj | SerajewelKS: of course, that is what I was trying to get at. Don't mess with 'where' stuff is installed, just mount the drives where its needed. |
| 16:11.00 | SerajewelKS | brack9: if it were me, i would mount the volume at /mnt/something and create /mnt/something/{usr,home} with the appropriate permissions, then symlink those |
| 16:11.04 | somiaj | SerajewelKS: where would you put it, I'd put it somewhere in /usr |
| 16:11.32 | SerajewelKS | brack9: note that you will need to symlink from within the installer after partitioning, to make sure that stuff gets installed to the other volume |
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| 16:12.01 | SerajewelKS | brack9: and move anything in /usr and /home (on your new-system mount) into the new volume |
| 16:12.12 | brack9 | ok |
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| 16:12.40 | SerajewelKS | somiaj: i'm not sure you can even elect to change where stuff gets installed |
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| 16:13.39 | somiaj | SerajewelKS: with a bit more hackary you can, you can extract debs anywhere but that is the easy part. (: |
| 16:14.03 | somiaj | SerajewelKS: either way, I was just saying you don't want to do that (i.e. change where thigns installed is first question) |
| 16:14.03 | SerajewelKS | sure, if you don't use apt for example |
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| 16:14.43 | somiaj | brack9: just one note, rember you did this so if you ever have to use a rescue cd to boot into your system, mount your partition else you will be missing lots of useful files |
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| 16:25.02 | somiaj | checked the man page for a list of keybindings yet? |
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| 16:29.35 | mjmt | somiaj: Whaddya know. After hitting Help > Contents and being told there weren't any docs installed, kind of assumed there wasn't a man page either. Thanks. :) |
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| 16:30.06 | mjmt | (And yeah there's keybindings.) |
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| 16:48.41 | tdfischer | omgzors socialism! |
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| 16:48.54 | Kromgol | TEA PARTY FOREVER |
| 16:48.55 | Kromgol | or not |
| 16:48.55 | arvind_k | !ops |
| 16:48.55 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 16:48.57 | Kromgol | lol |
| 16:49.08 | LoRez | arvind_k: they're being dealt with. |
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| 16:49.11 | AimHere | I think the ops are on the case |
| 16:49.14 | tdfischer | \!ops socialism |
| 16:49.17 | tdfischer | ;) |
| 16:49.23 | arvind_k | LoRez, oh ok, thanks :) |
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| 16:49.32 | mohamed-ragab | ? |
| 16:49.39 | eviltoaster | LOL why me!!, im from europe ! :) |
| 16:49.43 | eviltoaster | i dont even have a gun :/ |
| 16:49.52 | Nu^253r | was that a troll? or does it have another name |
| 16:50.10 | achadwick | Just goes to show that the Americans have never understood tea since that Boston business. |
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| 16:51.27 | Minkben | my university has a linux network, so I can login with my user on any linux desktop there. but I want to change shell, and chsh doesn't work ("Cannot change ID to root."). How do I do it? Is there a way apart from adding something like "/bin/sh;exit" to my shrc ? |
| 16:51.35 | Minkben | (debian linux network if it matters) |
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| 16:54.49 | jelly | Minkben: contact your administrator. |
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| 16:55.33 | sylar | have anyone installed kernel .39 or .38? |
| 16:55.40 | Minkben | jelly, I did, waiting for answer. but it feels like I should be able to solve with my previlegies, it's my user after all |
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| 16:55.54 | Minkben | passwd still works |
| 16:56.05 | jelly | Minkben: which debian release is it? |
| 16:56.09 | jelly | !version |
| 16:56.09 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 16:56.49 | Minkben | jelly, on the current box that I'm sshed into: "Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-35) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Tue Jun 14 09:42:28 UTC 2011" |
| 16:57.05 | Minkben | some boxes run 6.0 x64 |
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| 16:57.16 | gary_golden | how do I know all !commands of dpkg bot? |
| 16:57.28 | jelly | dpkg: your factoids |
| 16:57.28 | dpkg | You can search my database on the web at http://ircbots.debian.net/ or on IRC by asking me about <help listkeys> and <help-listvals>. My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are there. See also <search>. |
| 16:57.41 | gary_golden | cool, thanks |
| 16:58.22 | jelly | gary_golden: you can ask it about random stuff in private, /msg dpkg stuff |
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| 16:58.58 | gary_golden | it's aliiive! aliiivvve!! |
| 16:59.00 | jelly | Minkben: it's possible your admin has deliberately removed setuid bit from /usr/bin/chsh |
| 16:59.22 | Minkben | what is setuid exactly |
| 16:59.39 | helo | runs with priviledges of the file's owner |
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| 16:59.50 | helo | so if root owns it, it runs with root permissions even when ran by a normal user |
| 16:59.55 | jelly | Minkben: -rw s <-- r-xr-x 1 root root 33376 Dec 6 2009 /usr/bin/chsh |
| 17:00.03 | Minkben | is that s+x ? |
| 17:00.08 | jelly | u+s |
| 17:00.12 | jelly | yes |
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| 17:04.58 | gary_golden | It's actually fun talking with dpkg :D |
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| 17:10.02 | tuv | how do i configure a network interface to be shutdown by default? is there an equivalent to "ifconfig eth0 down" in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 17:10.48 | dkr | tuv: remove the word "auto" and it will never start automatically |
| 17:11.20 | dkr | which is sort of the same thing as shutting down by default. :) |
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| 17:13.28 | tuv | dkr: there is no auto, and it is not configured, but still started and listed in 'ifconfig', unlike after running 'ifconfig eth0 down' |
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| 17:13.44 | Minkben | I solved it with "exec /bin/bash" in .tcshrc |
| 17:14.30 | Minkben | victory |
| 17:14.40 | sylar | what does this mean? dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 2.6.38-bpo.2-amd64: |
| 17:14.40 | sylar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.33 | arnoldB | Hi, within a bash script I want to check if APT is locked. So I'm checking if /var/lib/dpkg/lock exists. After executing an apt* program the lockfile is still alive, executing an apt* program again, there are no errors. If I'm executing several apt* programs at the same time, the second exit. So how can I check if APT is LOCKED? |
| 17:15.36 | dkr | Minkben: heh, I do the same thing but the other way around. I add exec tcsh to .bashrc ;) |
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| 17:16.16 | Minkben | dkr, I have no idea about the differences really, I just want to use the same shrc on both my server and my school, and I like my bashrc |
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| 17:16.53 | dkr | Minkben: nothing wrong with that. nowadays bash stole most of the cool features from tcsh anyway. I'm also just used to tcsh |
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| 17:17.58 | dkr | actually I do echo $SSH_CLIENT | grep -q $my_ip && exec tcsh so it only does that when logging in from my workstation. :) |
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| 17:18.58 | Minkben | what's the -q switch? |
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| 17:19.14 | dkr | suppresses output, I'm just relying on the return code |
| 17:19.17 | tuv | so, again, how do i get the 'ifconfig eth0 down' effect permenantly (e.g. in /etc/network/interfaces)? |
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| 17:19.53 | Minkben | tuv, you'll probably want to disable the device. That's what I had to do once |
| 17:20.03 | wols | tuv: what is in your interfaces file? and do you run network manager? |
| 17:20.38 | tuv | wols: no nm. the only mention of eth0 in 'interfaces' is: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 17:21.19 | wols | you can always write a post-up rule of course |
| 17:21.28 | dkr | ifdown eth0 and *then* remove any entry from interfaces file? |
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| 17:21.57 | tuv | dkr: it's never been configured. ifdown will fail |
| 17:22.09 | wols | tuv: it has |
| 17:22.15 | dkr | he just said there is an iface eth0 inet dhcp line |
| 17:22.43 | tuv | dkr: but there is no 'auto'. that line will take effect only on 'ifup eth0' |
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| 17:23.20 | kristian-aalborg | greetings |
| 17:23.24 | jimmybirer | greetings |
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| 17:23.46 | kristian-aalborg | is it possible to get the "booted in XX seconds" functionality in Squeeze? |
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| 17:24.02 | seb82 | hey guys |
| 17:24.12 | jimmy_birer | like counting the seconds |
| 17:24.15 | jimmy_birer | while booting? |
| 17:24.18 | seb82 | what is the bare minimum on packages on debian base install? |
| 17:24.23 | kristian-aalborg | jimmy_birer, yes |
| 17:24.25 | jimmy_birer | base system |
| 17:24.32 | jimmy_birer | and system utilities |
| 17:24.41 | jimmy_birer | base system like kernel,bash,glib |
| 17:24.45 | wols | seb82: install from netinst without a network connection and you have it |
| 17:24.48 | seb82 | I'm using multistrap... for arm that is... |
| 17:24.54 | Hydroxide | seb82: the set of stuff installed by debootstrap, is the absolute minimum. not sure what the minimum the normal installer will use |
| 17:25.06 | seb82 | is there a way to find out? |
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| 17:25.43 | Hydroxide | seb82: I think the main installation guide has some section on how to do the most minimal install. read the docs :) though the answer might involve using debootstrap directly, even in that guide |
| 17:25.45 | jimmy_birer | seb82,just use netinstall |
| 17:25.53 | jimmy_birer | but dont install the packages |
| 17:25.57 | jimmy_birer | when tasksel comes up |
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| 17:26.08 | jimmy_birer | disable Web Server,Desktop,and system utilities |
| 17:26.16 | seb82 | jimmy_birer... soounds good but ofcouse then I can't install it on armel... |
| 17:26.16 | jimmy_birer | disable all enabled options when the menu comes in |
| 17:26.20 | Hydroxide | seb82: and the name multistrap suggests like it might be a small wrapper around debootstrap anyway, though I don't know |
| 17:26.26 | jimmy_birer | seb82,of course you can |
| 17:26.38 | jimmy_birer | are you talking about qemu or? |
| 17:26.46 | jimmy_birer | be more specific about what arch you are using |
| 17:26.48 | seb82 | no qemu... way to slow... |
| 17:26.53 | seb82 | armel for htc leo |
| 17:27.11 | jimmy_birer | htc hd2? |
| 17:27.12 | Hydroxide | seb82: even if it's real armel hardware, you could possibly do a network boot? anyway, do look at the installation guide, in the armel-specific version |
| 17:27.14 | seb82 | yes |
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| 17:27.22 | gandhijee | hey, so my machine doesn't reboot when i type reboot |
| 17:27.28 | gandhijee | any ideas? |
| 17:27.33 | seb82 | gandhijee try sudo reboot |
| 17:27.33 | jimmy_birer | seb82,this is just for you |
| 17:27.34 | jimmy_birer | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646 |
| 17:27.41 | seb82 | thx jimmy_birer |
| 17:27.54 | jimmy_birer | we live to help new people |
| 17:27.57 | jimmy_birer | no need to thanks |
| 17:28.01 | jimmy_birer | its our pleasure |
| 17:28.09 | arnoldB | How to check if any apt* program is locked? |
| 17:28.24 | jimmy_birer | try to install a new package |
| 17:28.27 | jimmy_birer | if it says locked |
| 17:28.29 | jimmy_birer | then it is |
| 17:28.36 | jimmy_birer | you can test it now |
| 17:28.42 | jimmy_birer | do a apt-get install openarena |
| 17:28.45 | jimmy_birer | wait a bit |
| 17:28.48 | blommer | What channel would be good to ask about VPSs? |
| 17:28.56 | tuv | Minkben: how did you disable it? |
| 17:28.58 | jimmy_birer | blommer,let me check out for you |
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| 17:29.06 | Hydroxide | jimmy_birer: thanks are always nice, even if not required :) |
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| 17:29.14 | jimmy_birer | k |
| 17:29.17 | arnoldB | blommer: Depends on what do you want to ask |
| 17:29.20 | namtorba | blommer: the channel for the OS your host or guest runs ... |
| 17:29.20 | jimmy_birer | blommer,#servergeeks |
| 17:29.24 | EvilGenius101 | How can i check sendmail queue (No. of emails) |
| 17:29.27 | jimmy_birer | its a cute euphemism not an insult |
| 17:30.02 | blommer | jimmy_birer: Thanks! |
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| 17:30.05 | jimmy_birer | no problem! |
| 17:30.08 | arnoldB | jimmy_birer: I want to check this within a bash script regularly. Would it be enough to execute apt-get check ? |
| 17:30.09 | namtorba | EvilGenius101: sendmail -bp ? |
| 17:30.26 | jimmy_birer | yeah but try |
| 17:30.30 | wols | arnoldB: check the existence of the lock file instead |
| 17:30.32 | jimmy_birer | xterm -e apt-get check |
| 17:30.36 | jimmy_birer | in the file |
| 17:30.39 | jimmy_birer | so you can see the output |
| 17:30.47 | EvilGenius101 | namtorba, thats... a long long list |
| 17:30.47 | namtorba | !enter |
| 17:30.47 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 17:31.05 | namtorba | EvilGenius101: it's your queue .. not mine :) |
| 17:31.17 | EvilGenius101 | :) I know, any way i can just get a number |
| 17:31.23 | enjoycrf | hi |
| 17:31.26 | EvilGenius101 | I send 20k emails and would like to see howmuuch left |
| 17:31.30 | wols | EvilGenius101: | wc -l ? |
| 17:31.57 | Hydroxide | wols: probably not... multiple lines each. |
| 17:32.07 | arnoldB | wols: My former request was: "Hi, within a bash script I want to check if APT is locked. So I'm checking if /var/lib/dpkg/lock exists. After executing an apt* program the lockfile is still alive, executing an apt* program again, there are no errors. If I'm executing several apt* programs at the same time, the second exit. So how can I check if APT is LOCKED?" The lockfile solution does not works.. |
| 17:32.07 | EvilGenius101 | wols, thank you. 3250 :) |
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| 17:32.27 | Hydroxide | uhless I'm remembering wrong... long time since i used sendmail |
| 17:32.50 | wols | arnoldB: why can't you run it sequentially? |
| 17:33.00 | EvilGenius101 | and namtorba, thank you as well. |
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| 17:33.09 | gandhijee | seb82: thats not the problem it tries to reboot, but then hangs at waiting for machine to reset |
| 17:33.14 | gandhijee | windows reboots the machine gine |
| 17:33.18 | gandhijee | *fine |
| 17:33.21 | jimmy_birer | arnold pm me |
| 17:33.32 | sylar | http://pastebin.com/67zuKTWB <--- why does fdisk /dev/sde don't work? |
| 17:33.34 | namtorba | arnoldB: keep it in the channel |
| 17:33.52 | seb82 | gandhijee when did this problem occur? |
| 17:33.55 | namtorba | arnoldB: there is no reason to msg peole for support in this channel |
| 17:33.58 | gandhijee | fresh install |
| 17:34.16 | seb82 | which version? |
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| 17:34.19 | wols | sylar: doesn't work how? |
| 17:34.24 | gandhijee | debian 5 |
| 17:34.27 | gandhijee | and debian 6 |
| 17:34.52 | gandhijee | i just tried rebooting from gnome, just hangs at restarting system |
| 17:35.03 | sylar | wols: # fdisk /dev/sde #Unable to open /dev/sde |
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| 17:35.52 | wols | ls /dev/sd? |
| 17:36.14 | seb82 | what type of computer do you have? |
| 17:36.30 | sylar | wols, "# ls /dev/sd? #/dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde" |
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| 17:36.50 | Minkben | tuv, still stuck? |
| 17:36.55 | wols | check permissions for sde? use cfdisk instead? |
| 17:36.58 | namtorba | arnoldB: ? |
| 17:37.13 | gandhijee | seb82: ?? what do you mean what type of computer do i have? |
| 17:37.19 | gandhijee | its an ATX motherboard |
| 17:37.37 | sylar | wols, brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 8, 64 Sep 14 20:34 /dev/sde |
| 17:37.55 | sylar | wols vs sdd: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 48 Sep 14 20:28 /dev/sdd |
| 17:37.58 | wols | gandhijee: UEFI? |
| 17:38.01 | arnoldB | namtorba: I didn't hide any information anywhere which I've posted yet in #debian . So you had an question? |
| 17:38.05 | seb82 | gandhijee: yeah... I mean brand |
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| 17:38.22 | gandhijee | not UEFI |
| 17:38.35 | gandhijee | nothing your heard of |
| 17:39.00 | gandhijee | also where are the xfce packages? i can |
| 17:39.11 | gandhijee | t seem to find them with aptituse |
| 17:39.16 | gandhijee | *aptitude |
| 17:39.24 | sylar | wols, # cfdisk /dev/sde > Invalid device |
| 17:39.25 | namtorba | arnoldB: that's not what i meant by not going to msg .. peer review is a very good thing .. |
| 17:39.29 | Minkben | tuv: why do you want to disable the wired connection? Can't you just unplug the cable? |
| 17:39.30 | arnoldB | gandhijee: Didn't you said you are using gnome? |
| 17:39.47 | gandhijee | arnoldB: because thats what came installed by default |
| 17:39.58 | arnoldB | alright |
| 17:39.58 | gandhijee | i need to move it to xfce for my customer |
| 17:40.07 | sylar | wols, I am giving the commands as root |
| 17:40.18 | seb82 | ah it's a customer's computer? |
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| 17:40.39 | seb82 | gandhijee, have you tried shutdown -r? |
| 17:40.43 | gnarface | is there official NIS documentation for debian somewhere? |
| 17:40.47 | gandhijee | no, let me try that |
| 17:40.55 | seb82 | just a thought... |
| 17:41.13 | gandhijee | seb82: same thing |
| 17:41.20 | tuv | Minkben: network monitoring tools report it as down as long as it's up and not configured |
| 17:41.25 | namtorba | gnarface: hasn't changed much in 15? years? |
| 17:41.30 | seb82 | owkay... |
| 17:41.52 | seb82 | gandhijee, can you try another fresh installation without X ? |
| 17:42.00 | seb82 | and see if reboot then works? |
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| 17:42.12 | Minkben | tuv: huh? What result do you want then? |
| 17:42.16 | gandhijee | seb82 i had already done that whole thing with debian 5 |
| 17:42.32 | gandhijee | and i know that the machine will reboot, as windows can make it do that |
| 17:42.55 | seb82 | that doesn't mean anything... under windows my laptop can hybernate... under linux it won't... |
| 17:43.10 | seb82 | did you do a fresh 6 install or upgraded 5 to 6? |
| 17:43.17 | seb82 | *hibernate |
| 17:43.39 | gandhijee | seb82: umm actaully it means that hibernate is broken under debian/linux for your platform for whatever reason |
| 17:43.48 | gandhijee | refresh install on a new SDD |
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| 17:45.07 | seb82 | gandijee: I'm just saying... |
| 17:45.24 | seb82 | SDD or SSD? |
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| 17:45.55 | arnoldB | I guess he meant SSD :D |
| 17:46.08 | arnoldB | or she :) |
| 17:46.18 | seb82 | yuppers ;) |
| 17:46.40 | gandhijee | SSD |
| 17:46.44 | gandhijee | my ba |
| 17:46.44 | gandhijee | d |
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| 17:47.06 | gandhijee | so about xfce.... |
| 17:47.13 | gandhijee | how can i get that on my debian 6? |
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| 17:47.42 | skiy1337 | I've just written a piece of software. If you have an FTP server, it let's you store you documents on it. |
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| 17:47.50 | amphi | gandhijee: aptitude install xfce4 |
| 17:47.54 | arnoldB | concerning my APT problem I should mail to to a debian mailing list. or is there a special apt mailing list? |
| 17:48.06 | tuv | Minkben: i want the effect of 'ifconfig eth0 down' on boot |
| 17:48.12 | gandhijee | amphi: xfce4 isn't showing up |
| 17:48.24 | gandhijee | where is a list of the squeeze mirrors for that type of stuff |
| 17:48.28 | Minkben | tuv, lsmod, then add to modprobe blacklist |
| 17:48.30 | gandhijee | or how can i pick on |
| 17:48.30 | Minkben | is how I did it |
| 17:48.42 | tuv | Minkben: to avoid having it reported as 'down' by monitoring tools when it's unused |
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| 17:49.11 | Minkben | tuv: blacklisting it in modprobe will make the system unable to find the hardware |
| 17:49.20 | tuv | Minkben: blacklisting would work, but it's not exactly the same as ifconfig down |
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| 17:49.50 | Minkben | tuv, then I'd add a script with ifconfig down to init.d |
| 17:50.00 | gandhijee | jpinx: i've been to the page. i need to list of bloody mirrors for squeeze |
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| 17:50.08 | Minkben | but I don't know what the best practice is for autostart in debian |
| 17:50.24 | jpinx | !mirrors |
| 17:50.24 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <geo sources.list>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors |
| 17:50.42 | arnoldB | Minkben: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 |
| 17:51.05 | seb82 | brb... fetching myself some diner |
| 17:51.21 | gandhijee | it would be tons easier if someone just gave me what goes inside /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:51.38 | Minkben | tuv: check arnoldB's link |
| 17:51.40 | gandhijee | instead of trying to get a bot to help me. |
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| 17:52.32 | ectospasm | gandhijee: reading the documentation ain't that hard. |
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| 17:54.27 | ectospasm | gandhijee: I just use cdn.debian.net, but that may not work for everyone. |
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| 17:54.52 | gandhijee | i guess there is no http://us.debian.org.... |
| 17:55.14 | gandhijee | there isn't some apt-mirror-select program? |
| 17:55.17 | wols | !tell gandhijee about sources.list |
| 17:55.22 | wols | gandhijee: not anymore |
| 17:55.30 | Hydroxide | apt-spy ,right? |
| 17:55.40 | wols | Hydroxide: not anymore |
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| 17:55.43 | Hydroxide | gandhijee: anyway http://www.debian.org/mirror |
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| 17:56.00 | Hydroxide | gandhijee: specifically http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 17:56.02 | jpinx | gandhijee: you have had all the answers to yur questions if you borthr to read what dpkg sent you |
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| 17:56.11 | wols | Hydroxide: cdn.debian.net |
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| 17:56.15 | ectospasm | !tell gandhijee about geo sources.list |
| 17:56.32 | Hydroxide | wols: apt-spy is still in sid on my machine. |
| 17:56.47 | arnoldB | The bot is tired :) |
| 17:56.56 | Hydroxide | wols: but, yes, I'm aware of cdn.d.n |
| 17:57.02 | tharkun | Gentlemen how do i force apt-get to upgrade libreoffice? It is beeing kept back :( |
| 17:57.25 | arnoldB | man apt-get :) |
| 17:57.36 | valdyn | tharkun: "apt-get install libreoffice" ? |
| 17:57.42 | wols | !tell tharkun about kept back |
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| 17:58.22 | gandhijee | thanks guys, sorry about the hassle |
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| 17:59.22 | Bethany | hi, i wave an issue, im using a crappy dell with an internal broadcom wifi card, manually got the firmware and the light turns on but the default tool in gnome doesnt work with the wireless at all, even manual settings, i was wondering what other tool i could use or some other work around. |
| 17:59.39 | Bethany | the OS is debian x64 dunno what other info is usefull |
| 18:00.00 | jpinx | Bethany: try wicd |
| 18:00.49 | Bethany | oh, the desktop is gnome, did the x64 instal from a DVD |
| 18:01.12 | Bethany | well, i have that on my other laptop (but my pcmcia wifi card died on me today) |
| 18:01.31 | Bethany | so now i have to use a public computer to swap files casue i cant even eth0 the dell :( |
| 18:01.57 | Bethany | im wondering if the install disk skipped install of something like wireless-tools |
| 18:02.34 | tharkun | http://paste.debian.net/130006/ <-- Why are dependencies not beeing resolved? Is there a packaging problem or is there something wrong on my system. It is not the firstime libreoffice gets upgraded |
| 18:02.50 | rox | Bethany: did you install correct formware for your Debian x64? |
| 18:03.03 | wols | Bethany: unlikely. dpkg -l wpasupplicant |
| 18:03.21 | wols | Bethany: and check your kernel log, your iwconfig output, iwconfig scan, etc |
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| 18:04.15 | wols | ,versions libreoffice-draw |
| 18:04.15 | judd | Package libreoffice-draw on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.3.3-4~bpo60+1; sid: 1:3.4.3-1; wheezy: 1:3.4.3-1 |
| 18:04.20 | rox | tharkun: could you please paste the output of command $ cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 18:04.29 | Bethany | yeah, casue i was doing the steps i did on my other debian laptop, but since i dont have eth0 the b4w-cutter couldnt download the file, what i did was type it in manually on this computer and followed an instruction page to extract the files to /lib/firmware/ |
| 18:04.31 | tharkun | rox: squeeze with bpo |
| 18:04.36 | Bethany | now the light turns on after a reboot |
| 18:04.40 | wols | tharkun: apt-get update and the apt-cache policy libreoffice-draw to check what versin it wants to install |
| 18:04.58 | tharkun | rox: 6.0.2 |
| 18:05.00 | valdyn | tharkun: this looks like libreoffice is not fully upgraded ( on the repo side ) |
| 18:05.21 | valdyn | tharkun: this happens regularily with sid packages, I don't know why this is possible in bpo |
| 18:05.39 | valdyn | tharkun: but this should fix itself by tomorrow or worst case in a few days |
| 18:05.47 | Bethany | tharkun: i saw that the other day, something similar, i forgot what i did, there wasnt a line below that with a recomondation? mine had one |
| 18:05.57 | wols | valdyn: judd says it's already fixed. see above |
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| 18:08.01 | valdyn | hows bpo mirrors organised ? same as regular debian mirrors? |
| 18:08.25 | gandhijee | how to i make XFCE the system default WM instead of gnome? |
| 18:08.44 | Bartzy | I have a NFS client writing a new file to a NFS mount. Then after a split second , another NFS client (on another host) tries to read that file, but it doesn't see it - the new file doesn't exist until some time passes. |
| 18:08.55 | Bartzy | the /etc/exports on the server has the 'async' flag, but I don't think that's relevant, |
| 18:08.56 | seb82 | back |
| 18:08.57 | valdyn | gandhijee: system or actually just your single user? |
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| 18:09.09 | gandhijee | system |
| 18:09.12 | Bartzy | and the clients are mounted with: nfs-server:/mnt/data /var/data nfs rw,noatime,acdirmin=0,acdirmax=0 |
| 18:09.42 | valdyn | gandhijee: thats probably the x-session-manager alternative |
| 18:10.08 | valdyn | gandhijee: update-alternatives --list x-session-manager, see if xfce is listed |
| 18:10.43 | gandhijee | valdyn: yes |
| 18:11.01 | gandhijee | is there a file i can edit? |
| 18:11.14 | tharkun | wols: libreoffice-draw: \n Installed: 1:3.3.2-2~bpo60+1 \n Candidate: 1:3.3.3-4~bpo60+1 \n Version table: \n 1:3.3.3-4~bpo60+1 0 \n 100 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main amd64 Packages \n *** 1:3.3.2-2~bpo60+1 0 \n 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 18:11.24 | valdyn | gandhijee: yea, but you should just run "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" |
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| 18:11.51 | wols | tharkun: then it should download 3.3.3-4 just fine |
| 18:11.57 | gandhijee | valdyn: how can i bring it up in automode? |
| 18:12.15 | valdyn | gandhijee: why the hell would you want to bring it up in automode? |
| 18:12.28 | gandhijee | isn't automode where it gives me the log in manager ? |
| 18:12.36 | tharkun | wols: I will force it though it should not ask me for that :( |
| 18:12.50 | valdyn | gandhijee: no, alternatives each have a priority value assigned by debian |
| 18:13.02 | gandhijee | ok |
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| 18:13.21 | valdyn | gandhijee: the highest priority is selected unless you pick one |
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| 18:13.41 | valdyn | gandhijee: im sure its possible to mess with those priorities, but theres no reason why you should do this |
| 18:13.58 | gandhijee | ok |
| 18:14.40 | gandhijee | and how do i get the kernel headers ? |
| 18:14.40 | valdyn | gandhijee: the question is if this does what you want ( namely start xfce as any users default desktop ). Try and see |
| 18:14.50 | gandhijee | yeah |
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| 18:14.59 | valdyn | gandhijee: "aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" |
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| 18:15.36 | gandhijee | thanks again |
| 18:15.40 | blubberdiblub | Bartzy, have you tried the mount option "noac"? or maybe try also setting acregmin and acregmax instead of only acdirmin and acdirmax. or try a value greater than 0 (maybe 0 means default, not 0 seconds) |
| 18:16.58 | Bethany | i cant find anyhting in any logs that says something amiss, the default tool cannot list any networks, and manually configureing doesnt do anything either even after a reboot. but iwconfig outputs strange info |
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| 18:17.13 | Bartzy | blubberdiblub: I think it means 0 seconds.. and noac wouldn't kill my nfs server ? It's a really busy server. |
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| 18:18.21 | blubberdiblub | Bartzy, then manpage doesn't tell if 0 means 0 seconds. i don't think so. it wouldn't make sense. it would make the client refresh the attributes constantly without delay |
| 18:19.47 | Bartzy | blubberdiblub: So what if I need less than 1 second ? |
| 18:20.58 | blubberdiblub | Bartzy, "noac", i'd say. if it's too hard on the server, then maybe a different network filesystem would be an option? |
| 18:21.17 | Bartzy | blubberdiblub: I'm moving to MogileFS, but that would take some time |
| 18:21.40 | Bartzy | noac is on the client, right ? |
| 18:21.54 | blubberdiblub | Bartzy, yes, according to the manpage |
| 18:22.16 | Bartzy | I think I'll make the app wait 0.5 second if it doesn't find the file, then try again... |
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| 18:28.42 | mh__ | hi.. if i want to boot my console with grub in lets say 640x480, can anyone give me a hint.. have tried to add the line vga=640x480 in the grub config |
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| 18:31.36 | cantido | mh__: you want grub to be 640x480 or the framebuffer virtual terminal(s)? |
| 18:32.42 | wols | mh__: grub or grub2? |
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| 18:34.16 | mh__ | cantido: well, i have this small computer connected through hdmi, the bios boots fine and i can see it on the tv.. but after grub 1.99 has loaded, i get the text "NOT SUPPORTED" on the screen.. guess that because of wrong resolution.. |
| 18:34.36 | mh__ | Coriolan: so.. just the resolution i guess.. but i think it would be a win to disable the framebuffer too |
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| 18:35.07 | Sokini_ | hey |
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| 18:37.32 | wols | mh__: what videocard? |
| 18:37.45 | Chilaquiles | hello everybody, I still have problems executing DeVeDe, every time I try to execute it, it says that mplayer and mencoder are not installed, but they are. Any suggestions? |
| 18:38.16 | boudiccas | Chilaquiles; what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:38.23 | Chilaquiles | 6 |
| 18:38.28 | mh__ | wols: its a intel gma500 |
| 18:38.30 | boudiccas | not 6.02 |
| 18:38.36 | Chilaquiles | mhhh |
| 18:38.41 | Chilaquiles | Im not pretty sure |
| 18:38.44 | Chilaquiles | how can I see that? |
| 18:39.03 | boudiccas | Chilaquiles; do ............. cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 18:39.14 | wols | Chilaquiles: install them frm the same site you installed devede from. not from the debian repos |
| 18:39.22 | wols | !version |
| 18:39.22 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 18:39.23 | mh__ | wols: its just like the screen flicker 2 or 3 times, and then the tv turns blue and get the message not supported |
| 18:39.23 | Chilaquiles | 6.0.2 |
| 18:39.40 | wols | !nofb |
| 18:39.41 | dpkg | To disable framebuffer use at Debian installation time, supply the "fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options. |
| 18:39.53 | Chilaquiles | Thats exactly what I did wols, it worked before, but now it stopped working for some reason |
| 18:39.57 | mh__ | wols: hmm.. set vga=nofb |
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| 18:40.08 | mh__ | oh |
| 18:40.27 | wols | Chilaquiles: what exact version of mencoder is installed? |
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| 18:41.31 | Chilaquiles | 2:1.0 says in Synaptic |
| 18:41.45 | wols | that is not the version. I said exact |
| 18:41.57 | Chilaquiles | how can I see that? |
| 18:42.08 | wols | dpkg -l <packagename> |
| 18:42.09 | dpkg | ii <packagename> 3.2-11.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 18:42.44 | Chilaquiles | ok this is the exact version: 2:1.0~rc3++final.dfsg1-1 |
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| 18:43.01 | wols | and you don't have it from the place you got devede from but the default debian version |
| 18:43.10 | Chilaquiles | I guess |
| 18:43.11 | wols | so install it from squeeze-multimedia |
| 18:43.17 | wols | no guess, but fact |
| 18:43.37 | Chilaquiles | so that mans it's not the latest version? |
| 18:43.57 | wols | no. it meeans this version cannot encode video |
| 18:44.09 | wols | at least not any current codecs |
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| 18:44.31 | Chilaquiles | ok, so what can I do to install the right version? |
| 18:44.37 | wols | Chilaquiles: where did you install devede from? |
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| 18:45.06 | Chilaquiles | DeVeDe webpage |
| 18:45.15 | mh__ | wols: no luck.. hmm.. |
| 18:45.18 | wols | !tell Chilaquiles about dmm |
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| 18:45.28 | boudiccas | Chilaquiles; i got devede from tjhere an dit works okay on my squeeze box |
| 18:45.46 | wols | boudiccas: and which mencoder version? |
| 18:46.00 | Chilaquiles | it worked on mine as well, but since like a week it shows that error |
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| 18:46.51 | boudiccas | wols; mencoder 2:1.0~rc3++fin MPlayer's Movie Encoder |
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| 18:47.17 | Chilaquiles | wols, just to make sure, if you write mplayer on the terminal does that show you anything? |
| 18:48.00 | Chilaquiles | because I think I have an error trying to execute mplayer |
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| 18:48.12 | wols | Chilaquiles: yes it does |
| 18:48.17 | Chilaquiles | an error? |
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| 18:48.45 | Chilaquiles | this is what it says after I write mplayer on the terminal |
| 18:48.48 | wols | no. a page on the options you can call mplayer with |
| 18:48.48 | Chilaquiles | mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference |
| 18:49.20 | Chilaquiles | so, I was wondering if this is part of the problem |
| 18:49.27 | wols | yes it is the problem |
| 18:49.47 | wols | where and why did you install another libavformat library? |
| 18:49.58 | Chilaquiles | I already tried to reinstall mplayer, but it didn't work |
| 18:50.12 | wols | it's not mplayer but libavformat |
| 18:50.17 | Chilaquiles | not that I remember I installed another libavformat |
| 18:50.36 | Chilaquiles | maybe it came with another program |
| 18:50.42 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: "didn't work" is a useless statement, give the error. |
| 18:50.57 | Chilaquiles | valdyn: thats the error |
| 18:51.02 | Chilaquiles | the same I wrote before |
| 18:51.13 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: so reinstalling it worked. |
| 18:51.21 | wols | ,versions libavformat52 |
| 18:51.21 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: just didnt fix that error. |
| 18:51.23 | judd | Package libavformat52 on i386 -- lenny: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny1; lenny-proposed-updates: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny3; lenny-multimedia: 3:20080706-0.3lenny1; squeeze: 4:0.5.2-6; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.4-1; wheezy: 4:0.6.2-5; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2 |
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| 18:51.39 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: did anyone tell you since yesterday that your use of the repos you choose is a recipe for disaster like the one you have? |
| 18:51.44 | wols | Chilaquiles: you have a 2nd, broken libavformat library on your system. find it and see why it's there |
| 18:52.03 | wols | ompaul: which repos does he use? so far he installs upstream software |
| 18:52.04 | ompaul | wols: he has stable sid and MM live all at the same time |
| 18:52.19 | Chilaquiles | yeah they did ompaul now, there's nothing I can do to change the pasr |
| 18:52.21 | ompaul | mix and smash |
| 18:52.21 | wols | Chilaquiles: good luck. you need it and lots of it. have a nice day |
| 18:52.23 | Chilaquiles | past |
| 18:52.33 | wols | you can reinstall |
| 18:52.38 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: happy reinstall |
| 18:52.47 | Chilaquiles | reinstall what? |
| 18:52.50 | muneeb | how to restore pub private keys which are there in .gnupg folder?? |
| 18:53.08 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: I was not here when you came back, however just as you left yesterday you pasted the repos and two us said OH OH! |
| 18:53.14 | valdyn | muneeb: restore from backup |
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| 18:53.41 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: reinstall your machine and this time don't make rash decisions about what to put in there |
| 18:53.59 | Chilaquiles | no I won't reinstall the system |
| 18:54.12 | Chilaquiles | that would take me a lot of time to put everything as I have it now |
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| 18:54.12 | muneeb | valdyn, i tried copy pasting the old .gnupg folder but if i do that i'm stuck at login prompt (login loop). which files i need to restore? |
| 18:54.13 | ompaul | then you either get rid of all repos and go sid |
| 18:54.28 | ompaul | or you cry on your own cos you borked it and you can keep the pieces |
| 18:54.31 | Chilaquiles | well, ompaul, you are talking in another language |
| 18:54.33 | valdyn | muneeb: youre login has nothing to do with .gnupg |
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| 18:54.49 | Chilaquiles | get rid of all repos and go sid? |
| 18:54.56 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: yes |
| 18:54.56 | Chilaquiles | I don't know what that means |
| 18:55.04 | wols | Chilaquiles: which is why you need to reinstall. if you don't understand him, that's all you can do. or live with your broken system. your choice |
| 18:55.15 | cantido | guess Chilaquiles shouldnt be running sid |
| 18:55.35 | Chilaquiles | what is that anyway? |
| 18:55.53 | muneeb | valdyn, ohk.. i'll see what i have messed up then |
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| 18:55.56 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: you shouldn't have mixed up things in /etc/sources.list you broke your machine, congrats you can keep the pieces or reinstall and DONT TOUCH THAT FILE |
| 18:55.57 | wols | the debian unstable branch. the one which has lots and lots of errors |
| 18:56.30 | Chilaquiles | ok, why don't you give me what you have in you sources.list file |
| 18:56.40 | Chilaquiles | and I copy and paste it on mine |
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| 18:56.55 | wols | Chilaquiles: cause that doesn't fix your system |
| 18:57.05 | philipp__ | Hi, I have found something obsolete on the german site of debian.org. Where should I report it to? |
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| 18:57.26 | DelphiWorld | Hey |
| 18:57.27 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: let me state this the easy way, you took a stable system, you added in stuff that does not belong (multimedia) left the door open for it to update your system and added in SID and it also has freedom to update your system is a train wreck please kill the rest of it nicely and install it again |
| 18:57.37 | DelphiWorld | please can someone tel me if i can delete the kernel message timestamping ? |
| 18:57.44 | DelphiWorld | in dmesg |
| 18:57.54 | DelphiWorld | example: [ 19.088007] eth0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 18:57.57 | Chilaquiles | I won't reinstall the system |
| 18:58.02 | DelphiWorld | Would prefer to see: eth0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 18:58.05 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: you don't get help from us |
| 18:58.06 | Chilaquiles | that would take me longer than fixing the error |
| 18:58.13 | ompaul | or the other #debian |
| 18:58.16 | ompaul | no it won't |
| 18:58.18 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: that is a kernel feature |
| 18:58.18 | Chilaquiles | what? that's not help anyway |
| 18:58.33 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: require kernel recompile ? |
| 18:58.34 | wols | philipp__: www.debian.org pseudo package in BTS |
| 18:58.36 | Chilaquiles | reinstall the system or you don't help from us? what kind of help is that? |
| 18:58.51 | philipp__ | wols: thanks |
| 18:59.09 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: no, I dont think so, theres a kernel-parameters.txt in the kernel docs iirc |
| 18:59.27 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: haha i'm not expert DUDE ! |
| 18:59.51 | wols | Chilaquiles: people who run sid are debian developers and people who test debian. they don't get help when it breaks since it's expected they create the new debian versions in the first place. and mixing debian branches is even worse |
| 18:59.53 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: you broke your system, to a point we can't tell what you did, you are not paying me for support if you want to pay €75 an hour I'll give you phone support to get it working the way you want |
| 19:00.00 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok, ill try to google this for you |
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| 19:00.08 | wols | Chilaquiles: so no, you won't get help for your messed debian when it is a lot faster if you reinstall |
| 19:00.10 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: :P |
| 19:00.19 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: and i am blind so the shell is kicking me off a lot |
| 19:00.37 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok, i see you got a good reason.. |
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| 19:01.09 | Chilaquiles | ok, whatever, I can't reinstall the system, so is there any software you guys recommend to make Dvds playable in a DVD player? |
| 19:01.26 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: come back as soon as it is installed and you will get help |
| 19:01.36 | DelphiWorld | ompaul: Good news |
| 19:01.40 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: but as it is go away :) |
| 19:01.43 | DelphiWorld | ompaul: thank you for your last DVB help |
| 19:01.51 | DelphiWorld | ompaul: is streaming now and killing my wireless ap :) |
| 19:01.54 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: seriously please go reinstall :) |
| 19:01.59 | Chilaquiles | as it is installed? what's installed? |
| 19:02.12 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: no, do a fresh install |
| 19:02.20 | cantido | thought DVDs just worked now.. |
| 19:02.20 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: of squeeze 6.0.2 |
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| 19:02.25 | ompaul | cantido: not always |
| 19:02.27 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: try "echo N > /sys/module/printk/parameters/time", use "echo testmessage > /dev/kmsg" to test this |
| 19:02.34 | Chilaquiles | ok, nevermind about my DeVeDe problem, just pretend I'm another guy asking for software to make Dvds playable in a Dvd player |
| 19:02.39 | cantido | ompaul: what doesnt work out of the box CSS? |
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| 19:03.02 | Chilaquiles | is there any good software for that? |
| 19:03.03 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: you can't without a reinstall, please go reinstall, come back in an hour and a half or less |
| 19:03.40 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: you are wasting our time and your own please stop this instant, please do a clean install. |
| 19:03.47 | DelphiWorld | you rocks valdyn |
| 19:03.51 | Chilaquiles | why don't you just answer my question and forget about my older problem? |
| 19:03.52 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: Thank you a lot my friend |
| 19:03.55 | Chilaquiles | please help |
| 19:04.00 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: cos it won't fsckin work |
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| 19:04.07 | DelphiWorld | ban kick Chilaquiles |
| 19:04.33 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: you want to put a plaster on a an fracture FAIKL |
| 19:04.33 | DelphiWorld | Chilaquiles: ;) |
| 19:04.37 | ompaul | its going to happen soon enough if he doesn't take our advise |
| 19:04.37 | boudiccas | Chilaquiles; your system is screwed and you have other problems in the future. your only solution is to do a fresh install |
| 19:04.44 | wols | Chilaquiles: cause your problem will surface again and again |
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| 19:05.08 | Chilaquiles | ok don't worry dudes when I have a lot of problems in my system I will do a reinstall, now I still can work on it |
| 19:05.22 | Chilaquiles | so, I don't have to reinstall |
| 19:05.38 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: are you still here? |
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| 19:05.56 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: but if i reboot i still see the timestamp |
| 19:05.58 | Chilaquiles | no I just vanished |
| 19:05.59 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: I think you fit the model of a troll, you should go look that up. |
| 19:06.04 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: yes |
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| 19:06.15 | Chilaquiles | troll? wth |
| 19:06.16 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: so make no sance:P |
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| 19:06.44 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: you can add that "echo N >/sys/module/printk/parameters/time" to /etc/rc.local |
| 19:06.46 | Chilaquiles | am I instulting you ompaul, that's what a troll basically does |
| 19:06.52 | ompaul | Chilaquiles: wasting peoples time like that you ought to be ashamed of yourself getting good advice for free and then continuing on like some kind of troll |
| 19:07.06 | daveo | I know, to to wal-mart and get a portable DVD player and place it beside the broken Debian install! |
| 19:07.08 | ompaul | to waste my time is to insult me is it not? |
| 19:07.19 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: yeah but the first msg's befaure rc.local run would by still timestamped:) |
| 19:07.19 | ompaul | daveo: +1 |
| 19:07.38 | Chilaquiles | what's is annoying is that, you should respect my desicion, and if you wanna help you should just answer the question no matter what my problem is |
| 19:07.49 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok, so maybe you do need a kernel-parameter for this, I don't know yet if that exists. |
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| 19:07.50 | wols | there isn't any legal way to play DVDs on linux anyways, is there? at least not in most industrialized countries |
| 19:08.02 | mamed | hej |
| 19:08.04 | boudiccas | Chilaquiles; !volunteer |
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| 19:08.09 | wols | ompaul: please ignore him now |
| 19:08.10 | boudiccas | !volunteer |
| 19:08.10 | dpkg | Volunteers are people who do things for you for free. All the helpers on #debian are volunteers. Please treat them with respect and don't expect them to follow your orders. Insulting them or the things that they have worked hard to create is not a good way of getting help. |
| 19:08.28 | ompaul | wols: ok |
| 19:08.31 | mamed | guys i want global menu how can i install it |
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| 19:08.39 | daveo | wols: whats up with that anyway, how come linux is left out? |
| 19:08.46 | wols | mamed: what do you mean with global menu? |
| 19:08.49 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: i believe it might be "printk.time=N" added to the kernel parameters |
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| 19:08.51 | Chilaquiles | Im not asking you to answer my question. If you don't feel like answer my question you don't have to. I know you are a volunteer |
| 19:09.11 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: yep but where's kernel parameters:P |
| 19:09.16 | wols | daveo: needs a non-free NDA to implement CSS legally. not possible with a Free distro |
| 19:09.20 | mamed | mac os like menu bar |
| 19:09.28 | Chilaquiles | but you shouldn't tell me what do I have to do if I want to get an answer |
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| 19:09.31 | Kre10s | The only legal way to play a dvd is to play it. |
| 19:09.42 | daveo | oh, there it is again non-free... |
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| 19:10.01 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: /etc/default/grub if you're on grub2 |
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| 19:10.03 | Chilaquiles | wols, have you use Devede? |
| 19:10.12 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: hold on though, i need to read.. |
| 19:10.15 | Kre10s | If someone tells you thats illegal. Frisbee his face with the dvd. |
| 19:10.18 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: :) |
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| 19:10.23 | DelphiWorld | Salam mamed |
| 19:10.29 | amphi | mamed: isn't that what that ghastly unity thing does? rip out menus from windows and put them in a bar on the top? |
| 19:10.35 | wols | Chilaquiles: please don't talk to me until you reinstalled. thank you and good bye |
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| 19:10.54 | Kre10s | naturally RIP the dvd first. |
| 19:10.55 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok, its really printk.time |
| 19:10.55 | wols | mamed: cairo dock or whatever it is called maybe |
| 19:11.03 | Chilaquiles | ok, thanks for your help, maybe other person can help me |
| 19:11.37 | boudiccas | Chilaquiles; you're beyond help, you just need to backup and do a fresh install |
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| 19:11.58 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: there should be a GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub, which you set to equal "printk.time=N" |
| 19:12.00 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: the full line plz |
| 19:12.16 | Chilaquiles | thanks but all I need is to know if there is any software similar to DeVeDe |
| 19:12.22 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" is hwo it looks by default iirc |
| 19:12.31 | Chilaquiles | if anybody can help me with that would be appreciated |
| 19:12.39 | DelphiWorld | got it valdyn |
| 19:12.44 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="printk.time=N" is what it should be then |
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| 19:12.48 | rwmanos | hello |
| 19:12.53 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: runing it |
| 19:12.53 | allorder | Chilaquiles: try dvdstyler |
| 19:12.59 | amphi | mamed: please keep it in the channel |
| 19:12.59 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: after that you need to update-grub iirc |
| 19:13.04 | Chilaquiles | thanks allorder |
| 19:13.06 | Chilaquiles | I will |
| 19:13.07 | mamed | amphi: yes i want it back i am using natty |
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| 19:13.18 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="printk.time=N" |
| 19:13.20 | Chilaquiles | do you have it installed allorder? |
| 19:13.21 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: right ? |
| 19:13.21 | mamed | i cant find gnome-globalmenu deb pack |
| 19:13.26 | lxsameer | where can i find dpkg database ? |
| 19:13.28 | allorder | Chilaquiles: yes. |
| 19:13.32 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: yes |
| 19:13.38 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: ok, grup update ? |
| 19:13.47 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: run "update-grub" |
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| 19:14.01 | Chilaquiles | because I tried to installed but I had questions to install that software |
| 19:14.11 | Chilaquiles | *install it |
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| 19:14.21 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: "cat /proc/cmdline" to verify this after next reboot |
| 19:14.44 | junagu | I suspect this isn't the right place for this question but I'm not sure. - I can connect to the internet but www doesn't work at all what's going on? |
| 19:14.47 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: update grub didn't work |
| 19:15.03 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: haaaargh |
| 19:15.16 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: what does it mean "didn't work". What's the error message? |
| 19:15.16 | rwmanos | 1 week ago, i found a link at debian.org that redirect at one on-line shop. Can anyone check it? |
| 19:15.19 | Chilaquiles | did you install it using the binaries? |
| 19:15.24 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: was my fault |
| 19:15.28 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok |
| 19:15.42 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: its just that i get plenty errors when running that command, still everything is fine. |
| 19:15.44 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: rebooted:P |
| 19:15.50 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: alright |
| 19:15.58 | DelphiWorld | thankfull to valdyn |
| 19:16.03 | Chilaquiles | allorder: how did you install it? |
| 19:17.05 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: ok, go buy a ticket with some airlines company |
| 19:17.05 | wols | lxsameer: /var/lib/dpkg/ |
| 19:17.18 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: debian didn't boot |
| 19:17.35 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: wow |
| 19:17.37 | lxsameer | wols: i mean dpkg bot |
| 19:17.43 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: go buy a ticket. fix it! :P |
| 19:17.47 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: where did it get stuck? |
| 19:17.50 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: don't wory, my dream is realised:P |
| 19:17.51 | wols | !tell lxsameer about your factoids |
| 19:18.01 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: don't wory DUDE is booted and timestamping gone;) |
| 19:18.03 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: hah |
| 19:18.07 | lxsameer | wols: thanks |
| 19:18.09 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: nice! |
| 19:18.13 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: ;) |
| 19:18.33 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: are you Florian that contribute to the OpenWRT project ? |
| 19:18.59 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: not directly |
| 19:19.04 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: :) |
| 19:20.47 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: Forian Fainelli.. thats not me |
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| 19:21.00 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: haha i see |
| 19:21.04 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: was just a guess :) |
| 19:21.34 | blubberdiblub | DelphiWorld, [florian] is the Florian you mean, i think |
| 19:21.52 | DelphiWorld | blubberdiblub: maybe, TTS spell it same here:P |
| 19:22.09 | mamed | take care guyss |
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| 19:22.17 | blubberdiblub | DelphiWorld, with square brackets around the nickname |
| 19:22.29 | DelphiWorld | blubberdiblub: yeah, right |
| 19:22.52 | DelphiWorld | blubberdiblub: you're smarter you knew the tts issue:D |
| 19:23.14 | blubberdiblub | DelphiWorld, no, i didn't know it, i just guessed |
| 19:23.16 | allorder | Chilaquiles: with aptitude, I have debian-multimedia in my source.list.. |
| 19:23.42 | Chilaquiles | allorder: is that the library that they were saying its making my system to fail? |
| 19:23.51 | ompaul | allorder: don't he's got broken sources.list mixing sid - stable and mm all open all the time |
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| 19:24.03 | allorder | ok |
| 19:24.16 | allorder | Chilaquiles: didnt read all your conv. |
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| 19:24.41 | Chilaquiles | ok |
| 19:24.56 | Chilaquiles | could you tell me what library do I have to add to install Dvdinstaller |
| 19:25.00 | Chilaquiles | DVDstyle |
| 19:25.02 | Chilaquiles | sorry |
| 19:25.15 | do0ob | What is a good program to do a diff with in linux of text files, specifically when the order of strings have been resorted in one of the text files |
| 19:26.15 | valdyn | do0ob: what does it mean exactly: "resorted" ? |
| 19:26.47 | do0ob | let me find an example |
| 19:27.11 | namtorba | do0ob: can you 'sort' the file? |
| 19:27.13 | do0ob | valdyn: well a line which would have been at the top of the file could be in the middle |
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| 19:27.36 | valdyn | do0ob: sort both files using "sort" and then "diff" to compare |
| 19:27.40 | do0ob | namtorba: yea i could sort and diff it |
| 19:27.48 | do0ob | but what is a good diffing app, i like a GUI |
| 19:27.51 | ompaul | do0ob: cat file | sort > /tmp/file-go-compare ; diff /tmp/file-go-compare /path/otherfile |
| 19:27.53 | namtorba | do0ob: use comm and sort |
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| 19:28.05 | ompaul | or that |
| 19:28.18 | namtorba | drinks the greycat koolaid |
| 19:28.32 | do0ob | optraz: thanks |
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| 19:28.46 | namtorba | do0ob: something like comm -13 <(sort foo1) <(sort foo2) |
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| 19:29.26 | ompaul | do0ob: namtorba's idea is better |
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| 19:30.57 | do0ob | namtorba: interesting, i would have thought comm would have a switch to sort the files itself |
| 19:31.04 | kyle__ | How do I find out of the net-install disc supports my machine's ethernet (really annoying boradcom BCM57765)? |
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| 19:31.21 | namtorba | do0ob: why? sort is already written :) |
| 19:31.23 | ompaul | do0ob: the classic semi unix thinking, one program, one job, be the best at it. |
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| 19:31.38 | namtorba | kyle__: the pciid would be more useful |
| 19:31.44 | do0ob | that makes sense |
| 19:32.21 | ompaul | dpkg tell kyle__ about bcm57765 |
| 19:32.28 | kyle__ | namtorba: Like the first entery in lspci? |
| 19:32.40 | ompaul | kyle__: 2.6.34 or higher |
| 19:32.59 | mavhc | does debian/kfreebsd support similar hardware to freebsd or to debian? |
| 19:33.27 | jhutchins_lt | mavhc: It's the freebsd kernel. |
| 19:33.31 | valdyn | mavhc: both |
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| 19:33.41 | kyle__ | Ahh ok. |
| 19:33.44 | ompaul | !tell mavhc about kfreebsd |
| 19:33.44 | valdyn | mavhc: but youre probably referring to hardware that needs kernel drivers |
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| 19:34.22 | mavhc | 8 port sata cards to be precise, so I suppose so |
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| 19:35.15 | namtorba | kyle__: lspci -nn .. last bit of hex |
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| 19:35.53 | kyle__ | namtorba: that would be 14e4:16b41 |
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| 19:38.04 | namtorba | kyle__: did the bot give you helpful info ? |
| 19:38.17 | aPpYe | is sun java going to be removed from debian? |
| 19:38.28 | wols | ,pciid 14e4:16b41 |
| 19:38.30 | judd | [14e4:16b4] is 'NetXtreme BCM57765 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in squeeze but has kernel module 'tg3' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:16b4 |
| 19:38.39 | wols | aPpYe: it never was in debian |
| 19:38.40 | valdyn | aPpYe: why would it be removed? |
| 19:39.31 | kyle__ | namtorba: To a large exten |
| 19:39.33 | kyle__ | extent |
| 19:39.57 | wols | kyle__: use a kmuto installer. that should/might have it working |
| 19:40.03 | maxJadi | Hi, I have a pptp VPN server and some users are spamming, How I can block port 110 and 143 to avoid any emailing from my server? |
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| 19:40.12 | aPpYe | wols, I am not sure what you mean by that.... here is the article I read. It was a little confusing: http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2011/08/26/sun_java6_packages_removed_from_debian_u |
| 19:40.27 | GNU\colossus | are there more up-to-date (considering upstream) XFCE packages for stable/squeeze available anywhere? |
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| 19:40.48 | valdyn | maxJadi: how would those ports being blocked stop smtp traffic? |
| 19:41.22 | amphi | GNU\colossus: backports perhaps |
| 19:41.38 | GNU\colossus | amphi, already checked there, it's either not there or I'm too dumb to find the packages |
| 19:42.18 | valdyn | maxJadi: maybe this isnt really spamming but something else? |
| 19:42.19 | maxJadi | valdyn, Sorry also 25 for SMTP as well :) |
| 19:42.25 | valdyn | maxJadi: ok |
| 19:43.37 | valdyn | maxJadi: google should give easy hits as to how to block traffic using iptables directly |
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| 19:44.44 | maxJadi | valdyn, I got an warning from linode.org my virtual server provider that basically says that some one is spamming with my IP :( |
| 19:44.55 | maxJadi | valdyn, Thanks :) |
| 19:45.58 | valdyn | maxJadi: like this: http://www.higherpass.com/linux/Tutorials/Iptables-Primer/3/, but your chain isnt INPUT but probably FORWARD, choice is yours, chain roles are explained in "man iptables" |
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| 19:50.34 | aPpYe | so... is sun java gonna disappear from the repos? |
| 19:50.59 | boudiccas | deja vu |
| 19:51.22 | aPpYe | yea... :) |
| 19:51.25 | seb82 | does anyone what packages go in the minimal install of debian? |
| 19:52.18 | seb82 | e.g. network stuff like ping, ifconfig etc? |
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| 19:52.38 | an0 | I would have to assume those are both included. |
| 19:54.29 | seb82 | an0... I've used multistrap and it ain't there... therefor... |
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| 19:54.58 | an0 | lol beats me then |
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| 19:55.56 | seb82 | kk |
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| 19:56.47 | Chilaquiles | wols, now I'm on sid, does that sound better? |
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| 19:57.01 | JordiGH | Can anyone confirm if squeeze's bzr works with launchpad? |
| 19:57.10 | JordiGH | bzr lp:pytave ## Fails for me |
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| 19:57.21 | JordiGH | I think I may need to backport unstable's bzr. |
| 19:57.37 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg info bzr |
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| 19:57.52 | dpkg | bzr: (easy to use distributed version control system), section vcs, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 46 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
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| 20:01.10 | infernix | is there a quicker way of figuring out the amount of files under a specific directory other than a find /somedir | wc -l ? |
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| 20:01.32 | JordiGH | Is that slow? |
| 20:02.04 | infernix | i'm talking up to a million of files |
| 20:02.10 | ompaul | du | wc -l |
| 20:02.26 | JordiGH | infernix: Right, is that slow? |
| 20:02.32 | Iridos | hehe |
| 20:02.44 | infernix | maybe i'm just impatient :> |
| 20:02.47 | ompaul | infernix: that's not a nice thing to do to a directory |
| 20:05.56 | Iridos | how long did it go so far |
| 20:05.56 | Iridos | wee-ho, there we go |
| 20:05.56 | aPpYe | what exactly is a net split anyway? |
| 20:05.57 | Iridos | this... |
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| 20:05.57 | aPpYe | but what happens exactly? |
| 20:05.58 | Iridos | people are connected to the channel via various irc servers |
| 20:06.09 | Iridos | the servers are connected |
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| 20:07.45 | Iridos | this is what happens when some of them stop being connected, i.e. they split |
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| 20:07.46 | Iridos | don't think you saw that :) |
| 20:07.46 | Iridos | this is what happens when some of them stop being connected, i.e. they split |
| 20:07.46 | ompaul | Iridos: that was nearly as dreadful as some of your others |
| 20:07.46 | Iridos | and rejoin |
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| 20:07.47 | rszeno | powertop minor problem, can somebody help? |
| 20:07.47 | MrFrood | Iridos: they are working on some of the freenode servers tonight |
| 20:07.47 | Iridos | yeah, I know |
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| 20:07.47 | Iridos | someone asked what a netsplit is while we were nearly alone :-P |
| 20:07.47 | Iridos | then you guys came back before I could finish answering |
| 20:07.47 | MrFrood | giggles |
| 20:07.47 | Iridos | or more correctly we came back |
| 20:07.47 | ompaul | cos we were brilliant |
| 20:07.47 | infernix | ompaul: seriously, i've been using noatime on dozens of (mostly web)servers since forever and have never ran into a single issue with it |
| 20:07.47 | aPpYe | i see. |
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| 20:07.48 | ompaul | infernix: that works |
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| 20:07.48 | infernix | but i'm open to counterarguments :) |
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| 20:07.48 | ompaul | infernix: it depends on your needs - I know someone who set up massive ftp servers that way he kept atimes on the boxes feeding the ftp servers (serves more than kernel dot org on a daily basis for years) |
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| 20:20.37 | aPpYe | ssssssssss |
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| 20:21.23 | joe6 | i am trying to figure out which package installed this file: /usr/share/vim/vim73/syntax/haskell.vim |
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| 20:21.32 | joe6 | apt-file search haskell.vim does not give anything. |
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| 20:21.39 | joe6 | any thoughts, please? |
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| 20:21.47 | aPpYe | joe6 I think you need the whole path to the file. |
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| 20:21.48 | namtorba | joe6: dpkg -S haskell.vim ? |
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| 20:22.22 | joe6 | namtorba: thanks, that helped. |
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| 20:28.51 | DebianUserMark | Hello I have deleted my windows partition but it still shows up on the boot menu. ow do i remove the windows 7 entry |
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| 20:29.24 | namtorba | DebianUserMark: aptitude install os-prober |
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| 20:30.07 | namtorba | doesn't see why it matters if grub has a stale entry for a nonexistant OS ... |
| 20:30.25 | DebianUserMark | I already have os prober |
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| 20:30.47 | namtorba | then run update-grub |
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| 20:32.21 | DebianUserMark | the updtae-grub command is invalid |
| 20:32.31 | DebianUserMark | update* |
| 20:32.38 | namtorba | are you root? |
| 20:32.46 | DebianUserMark | no im using sudo |
| 20:33.02 | blubberdiblub | then use it |
| 20:33.06 | DebianUserMark | k |
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| 20:33.32 | jhutchins_lt | Does sudo use root's path? |
| 20:33.49 | DebianUserMark | It still finds windows 7 loader |
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| 20:34.38 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: os-prober is part of the default grub installation. |
| 20:34.50 | namtorba | jhutchins_lt: not if you've done the dist-upgrade |
| 20:35.01 | namtorba | or it wasn't |
| 20:35.10 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: It's part of grub2. |
| 20:35.12 | namtorba | DebianUserMark: did you format the partition after you removed windows, or just start using it ? |
| 20:35.18 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: may not have been in testing. |
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| 20:35.22 | namtorba | jhutchins_lt: if you say so .. i don't feel like arguing with you again .. |
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| 20:35.28 | namtorba | not worth my time |
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| 20:35.55 | DebianUserMark | It's unformatted space gonna add it to my debian partition with gparted live cd |
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| 20:36.13 | namtorba | unformatted now? |
| 20:37.14 | andihit | I have an init.d script with the new "BEGIN INIT INFO".. (dependency based boot) and inserted it with insserv. but it doesn't get called on boot :( |
| 20:37.18 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: grub-pc Depends grub-common <- not part of the package but a dependency. |
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| 20:39.14 | jhutchins_lt | DebianUserMark: How had you added the Windows entry to grub? |
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| 20:39.49 | DebianUserMark | It came with my computer and at first I dual booted |
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| 20:40.09 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: Sorry, I mis-read that, it's a recommends for grub-common, so it could be not installed. |
| 20:40.13 | namtorba | jhutchins_lt: it's a recommends .. not part of the default .. but whatever you want! |
| 20:40.19 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: On squeeze anyway. |
| 20:40.58 | d0x | Hi, does someone have experience with HDMI capture cards and linux? I like to buy a pci(-e) card but i can't find one that supports linux |
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| 20:41.56 | namtorba | d0x: i want to say #mplayer or #vlc might be more help |
| 20:42.01 | namtorba | not really sure |
| 20:42.03 | jhutchins_lt | d0x: It may not be possible due to the DRM controls required to license HDMI technology. |
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| 20:43.07 | d0x | I need the hardware |
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| 20:43.43 | d0x | smth. like this http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/ . But i can't get it running |
| 20:43.48 | d0x | Therefore i look for another one |
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| 20:44.19 | wynn | Can someone confirm whether xattr works in deb 6? |
| 20:46.04 | Bauldrick | i accidently upgraded /etc/sudoers file when upgrading and now I'm not in sudoers list and cant remember my root passwd :( - is there a way around this ..? |
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| 20:46.59 | Bauldrick | on a headless box i need to ssh into btw ^^ |
| 20:47.00 | Sokini_ | Bauldrick: hum... no? |
| 20:47.35 | jhutchins_lt | Bauldrick: How do we know you're supposed to have root access? |
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| 20:48.51 | cnz_ | how do I downgrade my python-sqlalchemy to 0.5.7-1~bpo50+1 |
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| 20:49.11 | Bauldrick | good question, you don't I guess.... I'll have to take the disk out and connect to anothr box and replace old sudoers file, that will do it then? |
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| 20:51.01 | infernix | Bauldrick: reboot it and add init=/bin/bash to the kernel commandline |
| 20:51.32 | infernix | Bauldrick: then mount -o remount,rw / and either change the passwd file by hand (nano/vi) or mount /usr and use passwd root |
| 20:51.52 | infernix | mount -o remount,ro, reboot, done |
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| 20:51.56 | wathek | hi everybody |
| 20:52.31 | wathek | what can be the cause of ssh freezes ? I'm connected via ssh to a server and when I write commands it freeze and I have to wait few seconds to be able to write |
| 20:52.35 | namtorba | Bauldrick: grub lilo ? |
| 20:52.42 | Bauldrick | uboot |
| 20:52.48 | namtorba | wtf is uboot ? |
| 20:52.58 | cantido | wathek: packet lose on your connection |
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| 20:53.10 | cantido | namtorba: usually its like a BIOS is on PCs |
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| 20:53.25 | wathek | cantido, and I guess that I can do nothing for it |
| 20:53.29 | namtorba | unjie: don't irc as root, you can't speak here |
| 20:53.48 | jhutchins_lt | wathek: network errors |
| 20:53.51 | wynn | infernix: It's really that easy to break into a box? |
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| 20:54.02 | cantido | wathek: you could change the keep alive settings etc maybe.. you should check if your connection is dropping packets |
| 20:54.10 | namtorba | Bauldrick: and this is on Debian ? |
| 20:54.19 | wathek | cantido, gonna try the keep alive settings |
| 20:54.19 | wathek | ;) |
| 20:54.21 | wathek | thanks a lot |
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| 20:54.37 | jhutchins_lt | wynn: If you have physicall access to the box that hasn't been secured against it, yes. |
| 20:54.39 | infernix | wynn: trivial on console. |
| 20:54.52 | infernix | wynn: password protected grub helps |
| 20:55.03 | infernix | but still, insert USB stick, use own grub, owned |
| 20:55.03 | wathek | cantido, jhutchins_lt, the problem is that I can at the same time connect over an other terminal and it still working |
| 20:55.10 | cantido | Bauldrick: mount the root fs somewhere else, chroot and run passwd? |
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| 20:55.18 | Bauldrick | its a nas box running debian, uboot loads the kernel - i can add that via netcat when uboot is loading? |
| 20:55.27 | cantido | doesnt know if the old init=/bin/sh trick works anymore |
| 20:55.27 | jhutchins_lt | wathek: Then the problem is with the terminal that has the problem. |
| 20:55.35 | infernix | Bauldrick: if you don't have console you cannot use the init=/bin/bash thing |
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| 20:55.57 | cantido | Bauldrick: do you have access to uboot at all? |
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| 20:55.58 | namtorba | Bauldrick: can you edit to do like an init=/bin/sh ? |
| 20:56.01 | wathek | jhutchins_lt, huh ? can tty have a prob ? |
| 20:56.13 | cantido | does init=/bin/sh even work with the ramfs? |
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| 20:56.34 | Bauldrick | cantido: yes i can use netcat to stop the loading process and change |
| 20:56.35 | cantido | surely you would get the initramfs' /bin/sh (busybox) and root wont get mounted |
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| 20:56.44 | infernix | cantido: nope |
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| 20:56.57 | jhutchins_lt | !fr |
| 20:56.57 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 20:57.14 | cantido | wonders how that works |
| 20:57.17 | namtorba | dpkg: hi ? |
| 20:57.17 | dpkg | hello, namtorba |
| 20:57.29 | cantido | infernix: init is a kernel var right? not something that is parsed by the initramfs scripts |
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| 20:57.49 | cantido | infernix: init is busybox from the initrams until you have mounted root and pivoted |
| 20:57.52 | infernix | cantido: rdinit is what you look for if you want to change the init that's fired up off ramdisk. |
| 20:58.09 | cantido | infernix: ah, that makes sense |
| 20:58.13 | infernix | e.g. rdinit=/blah will change what it fires up on the initrd. init=/blah will change what it fires when it mounts root |
| 20:58.25 | cantido | infernix: how does the kernel know that its in the initramfs? |
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| 20:58.31 | cantido | infernix: picking your brains ;) |
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| 20:59.19 | infernix | cantido: when you specify an initrd |
| 20:59.22 | infernix | e.g. ramdisk |
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| 20:59.59 | infernix | the kernel doesn't know if it's on the ramdisk, it assumes it is. if you point rdinit to a nonexistent file, it panics |
| 21:00.06 | cantido | infernix: the init scripts parse the value of init when they restart init after mounting root then? |
| 21:00.34 | infernix | cantido: no, rdinit=blah is what the kernel executes once it's done booting. it'll fire blah |
| 21:00.40 | infernix | same for init= but then when mounting root |
| 21:01.03 | infernix | it's the job of blah to set up userspace and parse initscripts |
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| 21:01.10 | infernix | hence the default of init=/sbin/init |
| 21:01.28 | infernix | try linux from scratch sometime, you'll learn a ton |
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| 21:02.42 | infernix | and that concludes our session on how to own a box if you're at the console |
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| 21:02.52 | cantido | if you have an initramfs it uses the rdinit value I get that.. but once the stuff from the ramdisk is running the kernel isn't going to restart init |
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| 21:03.31 | cantido | hence I my initramfs the path to init is hardcoded because I didnt want a massive busybox that could parse the kernel commandline |
| 21:03.33 | infernix | cantido: correct, if using initrd, the ramdisk init script (rdinit=) is responsible for root mounting and pivot/chroot |
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| 21:04.07 | niteye | i tried to make a music compilation with "brasero" but it crashes with error 0 "no message" in the creating image phase, any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 21:04.08 | cantido | s/I/in |
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| 21:04.50 | infernix | personally i dislike initrd and just build kernels that don't need them |
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| 21:05.04 | infernix | but i'm probably getting old |
| 21:05.05 | cantido | niteye: the error is pretty vague.. did you google it and see if anyone else has had it? |
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| 21:05.24 | niteye | well yes it is vague but thats how it shows in the log file heh |
| 21:05.25 | cantido | infernix: initramfs is good where you have a bootloader than can barely load the bootloader |
| 21:05.55 | cantido | s/than/that/ |
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| 21:06.14 | infernix | cantido: imho the only place initramfs/initrd is any good is for network booting (pxe, iscsi etc) |
| 21:06.23 | jhutchins_lt | initramfs is for when you need hardware drivers to access the system. |
| 21:06.40 | cantido | infernix: I have to switch my disk on and off during boot to mount root.. |
| 21:07.10 | cantido | infernix: I use a initramfs to toggle some GPIO ports to flash some leds and read a switch that controls the CF cards power |
| 21:07.21 | cantido | initramfs is handy |
| 21:07.35 | infernix | jhutchins_lt: not really if you compile kernels from source |
| 21:08.10 | jhutchins_lt | infernix: There are still reasons to use a modular kernel and initrd instead. |
| 21:08.13 | cantido | infernix: if you build everything in you can never unload it, or blacklist it.. that might be a pain down the road |
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| 21:08.27 | infernix | shit i am getting old |
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| 21:08.34 | infernix | doesn't anyone just build kernels themselves anymore? |
| 21:08.36 | julian3387 | hi |
| 21:08.49 | cantido | infernix: the debian ones work for most people ;) |
| 21:08.51 | infernix | what's this blacklist thing, or unloading modules |
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| 21:09.29 | infernix | just don't compile them in |
| 21:09.32 | infernix | shrugs |
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| 21:09.51 | cantido | infernix: what about hot pluggable stuff? |
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| 21:10.00 | cantido | usb etc |
| 21:10.03 | infernix | still don't need modules for that |
| 21:10.23 | infernix | and even still |
| 21:10.33 | cantido | infernix: dont you find it annoying when you get something, and you have to build a new kernel to use it? |
| 21:10.36 | infernix | i have a ton of modules i load but that doesn't mean i need initramfs |
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| 21:10.56 | namtorba | wtf ... |
| 21:11.00 | infernix | just load them from /lib/modules |
| 21:11.45 | cantido | infernix: ah, I thought you were against modules too, sorry ;) |
| 21:11.54 | infernix | cantido: i've been compiling kernels since forever. good practise imo, get to stay fairly up to speed concerning features and drivers with a good ole make oldconfig every now and then |
| 21:12.12 | cantido | infernix: I build my own SH4 kernels, I wouldnt bother for x86 or amd64 |
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| 21:13.10 | wynn | Do you guys know if Deb 6 supports extended attributes, or do I have to compile a new kernel? |
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| 21:13.26 | jhutchins_lt | wynn: I believe it has native support. |
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| 21:13.50 | namtorba | wynn: you mean like ACLs ? |
| 21:13.54 | wynn | jhutchins_lt: I get errors running xattr is there anything else I need to setup/install? |
| 21:14.10 | cantido | you need to mount with them enabled dont you? |
| 21:14.19 | jhutchins_lt | infernix: I remember when every howto began with patching the kernel to enable some support. We should take this to #debian-offtopic though. |
| 21:14.19 | cantido | i.e. another option in the fstab line |
| 21:14.21 | wynn | namtorba: yes, but I wanted to add my own properties (e.g. env PROD) |
| 21:14.32 | jhutchins_lt | wynn: Don't use it myself... |
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| 21:14.55 | maxjezy | hello, is it possible to put a PPA in debian |
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| 21:15.05 | namtorba | wynn: did you check the /usr/share/doc/metastore/ or whatever it is ? |
| 21:15.07 | maxjezy | i'm new user from previous ubuntu |
| 21:15.16 | namtorba | maxjezy: you can do anything you want .. but it will likely break your system |
| 21:15.22 | namtorba | maxjezy: what PPA would you want? |
| 21:15.30 | maxjezy | a PPA for mypaint |
| 21:15.31 | wynn | jhutchins_lt: thanks anyway. It's such a great feature, I wish it had more support. |
| 21:15.36 | maxjezy | to get the laterst |
| 21:15.40 | jhutchins_lt | maxjezy: Yes. It is also very likely it will make a mess of your system. |
| 21:15.44 | julian3387 | do you know if it's possible to use capabilities (setcap and getcap) over NFS? It doesn't work for me and I can't find anything in the man page and google? |
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| 21:15.58 | jhutchins_lt | wynn: I think there's something on the wiki about it. Get ye to Google. |
| 21:16.04 | maxjezy | hm :( |
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| 21:16.32 | wynn | jhutchins_lt: Which wiki? Debian wiki? |
| 21:16.33 | namtorba | maxjezy: if it breaks, no one will want to help you .. |
| 21:16.44 | maxjezy | but if it does |
| 21:16.47 | namtorba | judd: versions mypaint |
| 21:16.47 | judd | Package mypaint on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.2-1.1; sid: 0.9.1-1; wheezy: 0.9.1-1 |
| 21:16.50 | maxjezy | i can use the USB to install it again |
| 21:16.59 | maxjezy | right? |
| 21:17.00 | namtorba | maxjezy: you can do whatever you want .. i can't imagine it's worth it |
| 21:17.20 | maxjezy | namtorba, so debian is only for using old out of date software? |
| 21:17.22 | namtorba | wouldn't touch a PPA of anything |
| 21:17.29 | namtorba | maxjezy: i didn't say that .. that's FUD |
| 21:17.42 | namtorba | maxjezy: i said i wouldn't use a PPA |
| 21:17.49 | maxjezy | okey |
| 21:18.11 | maxjezy | well, i'll check their website and download it from there if its availeble |
| 21:18.14 | namtorba | maxjezy: maybe your real question should be "How can I get a newer veresion of mypaint without using those crap PPA repos?" |
| 21:18.16 | maxjezy | thnx for everything! |
| 21:18.26 | maxjezy | namtorba, maby :) |
| 21:18.42 | namtorba | maxjezy: would you like to rephrase your request ? :) |
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| 21:19.47 | namtorba | !tell maxjezy about ssb |
| 21:19.53 | namtorba | !tell maxjezy about uupdate |
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| 21:19.55 | egoga | there we go |
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| 21:19.58 | egoga | ok |
| 21:20.06 | egoga | My debian is giving me severe errors |
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| 21:20.23 | egoga | I boot up, it gets to Configure MTA: exim4... then after that it stalls, Ctrl+C doesn't work even when helf |
| 21:20.27 | egoga | held |
| 21:20.30 | namtorba | maxjezy: those are *different* methods .. i'd try ssb first .. if it proves problematic, maybe try uupdate |
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| 21:20.36 | egoga | I don't know what in inti.d is causing the problem and recovery mode isn't helping |
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| 21:20.54 | egoga | How do I figure out if it's a kernel problem or what /etc/rc2.d is causing the problem |
| 21:20.58 | namtorba | maxjezy: i'll be back in a bit, but i'm sure someone can help you to make sure you don't go astray |
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| 21:21.35 | egoga | let's take a look at my var log file for assistance: |
| 21:21.42 | maxjezy | i be back later |
| 21:21.45 | maxjezy | gotta eat pizza |
| 21:21.55 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: imklog 4.6.4, log source = /proc/kmsg started. |
| 21:21.56 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="4.6.4" x-pid="1059" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] (re)start |
| 21:21.59 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-35squeeze2) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Fri Sep 9 20:51:05 UTC 2011 |
| 21:22.03 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset |
| 21:22.05 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu |
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| 21:22.08 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus: |
| 21:22.10 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel |
| 21:22.13 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD |
| 21:22.15 | egoga | oops |
| 21:22.18 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] NSC Geode by NSC |
| 21:22.20 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Cyrix CyrixInstead |
| 21:22.23 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Centaur CentaurHauls |
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| 21:22.25 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Transmeta GenuineTMx86 |
| 21:22.28 | egoga | help how do I stop ti |
| 21:22.30 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] Transmeta TransmetaCPU |
| 21:22.33 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] UMC UMC UMC UMC |
| 21:22.35 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: |
| 21:22.38 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable) |
| 21:22.41 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) |
| 21:22.43 | thewanderer1 | ,pciid 102b:0532 |
| 21:22.44 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000000ff77000 (usable) |
| 21:22.44 | judd | [102b:0532] is 'MGA G200eW WPCM450' from 'Matrox Graphics, Inc.' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=102b:0532 |
| 21:22.47 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000000ff77000 - 000000000ff79000 (ACPI NVS) |
| 21:22.50 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000000ff79000 - 0000000010000000 (reserved) |
| 21:22.54 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec10000 (reserved) |
| 21:22.57 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee10000 (reserved) |
| 21:22.57 | dimir | haha |
| 21:22.59 | dimir | Nice. |
| 21:23.00 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) |
| 21:23.01 | dimir | -n |
| 21:23.03 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] DMI 2.3 present. |
| 21:23.03 | dimir | .т |
| 21:23.04 | jelly-home | ... |
| 21:23.05 | streuner_ | haha |
| 21:23.05 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] last_pfn = 0xff77 max_arch_pfn = 0x100000 |
| 21:23.07 | amphi | egoga: /part and then /join again |
| 21:23.09 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new 0x7010600070106 |
| 21:23.12 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] init_memory_mapping: 0000000000000000-000000000ff77000 |
| 21:23.13 | dimir | Nobody to bun the fucker? |
| 21:23.15 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] RAMDISK: 0b79a000 - 0bfd9156 |
| 21:23.18 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] ACPI: RSDP 000fd560 00014 (v00 DELL ) |
| 21:23.18 | julian3387 | so I would like to allow non root user to run wireshark on a nfsrooted debian but for that I need to set capabilities(by using setcap as read in the documentation of wireshark), but it doens't work |
| 21:23.21 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] ACPI: RSDT 000fd574 00034 (v01 DELL 8200 00000008 ASL 00000061) |
| 21:23.24 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] ACPI: FACP 000fd5a8 00074 (v01 DELL 8200 00000008 ASL 00000061) |
| 21:23.24 | jelly-home | !ops egoga |
| 21:23.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: egoga |
| 21:23.28 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] ACPI: DSDT fffe3c22 02142 (v01 DELL dt_ex 00001000 MSFT 0100000D) |
| 21:23.31 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] ACPI: FACS 0ff77000 00040 |
| 21:23.33 | egoga | Sep 11 17:32:21 readme kernel: [ 0.000000] ACPI: SSDT fffe5d64 000A7 (v01 DELL st_ex 00001000 MSFT 0100000D) |
| 21:23.34 | *** mode/#debian [+o mrmist] by ChanServ |
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| 21:24.00 | mrmist | egoga: pastebin would be better for log files |
| 21:24.18 | jelly-home | !tell egoga -about paste |
| 21:24.19 | streuner_ | mrmist: good lord, someone send you from haven :-) |
| 21:24.20 | julian3387 | egoga, maybe you can use pastbi or something like that for posting a so long message |
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| 21:24.58 | jelly-home | maybe he needs his -q to be able to speak |
| 21:24.59 | julian3387 | egoga, don't forget to use pastbin :D |
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| 21:25.14 | jelly-home | julian3387: pastebin. Spell it. |
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| 21:25.27 | julian3387 | oups sorry jelly-home |
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| 21:25.49 | julian3387 | pastebin |
| 21:26.03 | julian3387 | :D |
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| 21:29.52 | jaggz | How can I see my existing outgoing mail transport service? |
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| 21:31.02 | streuner_ | jaggz: do you mean how you see how a MTA working? |
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| 21:31.55 | jaggz | I mean, I did echo data | mail -s 'Edit this' myaddress@something.com and it didn't go out.. and I thought I had postfix installed but I don't .. :) |
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| 21:33.36 | apofis | good evening everyone |
| 21:34.10 | apofis | just a quick question : do you have any experiance with PHP packages from dotdeb repo (Debian 6.0.2) |
| 21:34.23 | streuner_ | sure |
| 21:34.29 | streuner_ | dpkg, dotdeb |
| 21:34.29 | dpkg | well, dotdeb is for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/ , but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior. Ask me about <backports> and <debian-backports>. "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb" |
| 21:35.06 | apofis | fair enough :) thx |
| 21:35.21 | wynn | how can I check if xattr is enabled in the kernel? |
| 21:35.52 | streuner_ | grep the config of you kernel? |
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| 21:36.53 | egoga | well |
| 21:36.55 | egoga | that sucked |
| 21:36.58 | egoga | oh well |
| 21:37.10 | jaggz | oh, it looks like I have exim installed now |
| 21:37.14 | egoga | Anyway, how do I get my system working? Do I replace my init files or is some program literally not working |
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| 21:37.27 | egoga | jaggz: HOW DID YOU GET EXIM WORKING |
| 21:37.37 | egoga | See, this is why I go: |
| 21:37.46 | egoga | # |
| 21:37.47 | egoga | # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. |
| 21:37.47 | egoga | # |
| 21:37.48 | egoga | # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each |
| 21:37.50 | egoga | # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should |
| 21:37.52 | egoga | # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. |
| 21:37.53 | jaggz | it's not working.. my mail's not going out |
| 21:37.54 | egoga | # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one |
| 21:37.55 | robokop | !paste |
| 21:37.56 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:37.57 | egoga | # space. |
| 21:37.59 | egoga | #/bin/sh: line 1: 5202 Terminated /home/negger/line < /etc/hosts |
| 21:38.00 | streuner_ | omg, a troll |
| 21:38.14 | egoga | I'm not a troll, I desperately need help |
| 21:38.16 | jhutchins_lt | streuner_: That's not a troll, that's a newbie. |
| 21:38.27 | debiantonio | !paste |
| 21:38.27 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:38.57 | egoga | !answer |
| 21:38.58 | dpkg | methinks answer is when nobody knows how to solve a problem, and they decide not to bother you with their ignorance; it is not meant as disrespect. |
| 21:39.09 | streuner_ | jhutchins_lt: well, he just made the same mistake twice, i dont think, a newbie is able to be so clueless... |
| 21:39.11 | jaggz | !disrespect |
| 21:39.14 | egoga | Do not hesitate to answer more than 2 minutes to this channel. |
| 21:39.18 | egoga | !answer |
| 21:39.19 | dpkg | answer is probably when nobody knows how to solve a problem, and they decide not to bother you with their ignorance; it is not meant as disrespect. |
| 21:39.20 | egoga | Do not hesitate to answer more than 2 minutes to this channel. |
| 21:39.33 | egoga | When people refuse to answer, it makes me feel like doing this |
| 21:39.37 | egoga | NHEe^E?" U<[g\[Vx K$~@\zs BK{GrxKw a)%M^Yq emq0;hE ~pTB5c!t |
| 21:39.42 | egoga | MEp<f1k_ 12OBhfA -iw'Wv`G +(\G;] C>FN);_r +h,GrBKc A?(Yod |
| 21:39.48 | egoga | ~(D'sD"g }/^bgD@ i,P=<o, LvZFs1J 8Dma{Q/ m,="cZSW "=f\vxY |
| 21:39.52 | egoga | <>X?wYh. N%@X1NF etCEb#<X t[&{<aDD `9,gnRy$ EiKamSBt kq'|2h~8 |
| 21:39.56 | nkuttler | !ops egoga is spamming |
| 21:39.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: nkuttler complains about: egoga is spamming |
| 21:39.57 | egoga | Annoying, isn't it |
| 21:40.01 | peterS | egoga: enough. and don't paste. you've been warned before. |
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| 21:40.27 | lyte | egoga: before you get kicked, do you actually have a question? |
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| 21:42.35 | streuner_ | peterS: thanks |
| 21:42.50 | peterS | streuner_: I didn't do the +q or the kline. I would have given him a chance to reform |
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| 21:45.04 | streuner_ | peterS: s/reform/spam :-P |
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| 21:45.31 | megadelon | libgphoto2-2_2.4.11-3 dpkg-maintscript-helper: not found |
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| 21:46.50 | jhutchins_lt | For the amusement of those of you not following oftc.net, he pulled the same stunt over there. |
| 21:47.07 | streuner_ | hehe |
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| 21:47.43 | streuner_ | megadelon: do you want use gphoto2? |
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| 21:47.59 | streuner_ | jhutchins_lt: interesting |
| 21:48.10 | twobitsprite | jhutchins_lt: obvious troll is obvious |
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| 21:48.24 | jelly-home | peterS: it's a repeat offender. |
| 21:48.34 | nkuttler | he also pm'd me defending his behavior |
| 21:48.39 | peterS | jelly-home: yeah I just banned him on irc.debian.org |
| 21:48.45 | jelly-home | thanks! |
| 21:48.57 | jhutchins_lt | Too bad about the attitude, it looked like an interesting question. |
| 21:49.26 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: the questions are just a hook. |
| 21:49.36 | peterS | nkuttler: he runs '/exec -o cat /dev/urandom' on purpose, to get his client to spam the channel with truly random binary blobs |
| 21:49.51 | peterS | nkuttler: I'm a bit curious how he would defend _that_ |
| 21:50.05 | megadelon | streuner: libsane needs libgphoto2-2 upgrade |
| 21:50.14 | nkuttler | peterS: "so what, they don't give a fuck fuck" |
| 21:50.27 | nkuttler | sending urandom to irc clients souds malicious |
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| 21:50.38 | peterS | well, he's sending it to the _server_, so we all get to see it |
| 21:50.41 | streuner_ | megadelon: please show us your sources.list in a pastebin (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 21:50.49 | peterS | I guess it's his way of getting attention so we'll pay more attention to his questions |
| 21:50.54 | peterS | which ... doesn't really work that way |
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| 21:51.22 | jhutchins_lt | peterS: "Answer me right now or I will be rude!" - yeah, not so much. |
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| 21:51.58 | jhutchins_lt | peterS: It may just be someone trying to disrupt the channel though, sounds like it's happened before. |
| 21:52.04 | peterS | yeah I dunno |
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| 21:52.28 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libgphoto2 |
| 21:52.28 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libgphoto2' was found in i386. |
| 21:52.33 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libgphoto2-2 |
| 21:52.35 | judd | Package libgphoto2-2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.1-3; squeeze: 2.4.6-3; wheezy: 2.4.11-2; sid: 2.4.11-3 |
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| 21:53.28 | jhutchins_lt | megadelon: That's the way sid works. |
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| 21:53.52 | megadelon | streuner: deb testing unstable in sources.list |
| 21:53.58 | streuner_ | well, gphoto2 works well in sid |
| 21:54.06 | streuner_ | megadelon: please show us |
| 21:54.31 | ansgar | megadelon: Did you try to install the package in stable? |
| 21:54.38 | megadelon | no |
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| 21:54.49 | pindemon | hello world |
| 21:54.57 | pindemon | as I never setup/used tftp |
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| 21:55.33 | ansgar | megadelon: What was in your PATH when you called dpkg? |
| 21:55.39 | pindemon | I need a hand to complete a step in a tutorial I've found (copying a router's bin image in tftp folder and reboot router in "special way") |
| 21:55.49 | pindemon | could somebody help me? |
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| 21:56.45 | jelly-home | will you blame us for bricking your router? |
| 21:57.07 | pindemon | jelly-home: absolutely not :) |
| 21:57.48 | thewanderer1 | hey guys, a quickie: how to hide the mouse cursor in X? it's currently a nasty cross (X) in the middle of my screen. I want it invisible/removed. xsetroot doesn't work for this. |
| 21:58.03 | streuner_ | megadelon: you should give us more details, otherwise we arent able to help... |
| 21:58.35 | pindemon | those are the tutorial's indications http://pastebin.com/bfVJKX0t |
| 21:58.40 | Bushmills | thewanderer1: check out unclutter |
| 21:59.07 | thewanderer1 | Bushmills: thanks, is that the only way though? |
| 21:59.08 | Bushmills | watch your cpu load when doing, there are few programs not working nicely with it |
| 21:59.22 | thewanderer1 | as in, I have bare X with only 1 or 2 clients running |
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| 22:00.02 | megadelon | streuner: Im trying to get my sources.list from the machine cause only terminal is working |
| 22:00.04 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: google knows. |
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| 22:00.14 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: eg. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/660613/how-do-you-hide-the-mouse-pointer-under-linux-x11 |
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| 22:01.13 | egoga | Good question |
| 22:01.25 | egoga | How do I stop my bootup from pausing after Configuring MTA: exim4. |
| 22:01.27 | thewanderer1 | omg, the description of how unclutter does it made me really sad :P |
| 22:01.30 | jelly-home | !ops egoga is back. |
| 22:01.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: egoga is back. |
| 22:01.40 | egoga | that's right, and I"m polite. |
| 22:01.48 | jelly-home | I'm not. |
| 22:01.49 | streuner_ | dpkg, jelly-home++ |
| 22:01.50 | egoga | watch everyone as I get harassed for simply asking a question |
| 22:02.05 | streuner_ | you are a troll |
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| 22:02.24 | jelly-home | you're harassed for being an inflamatory git, not for asking silly questions. |
| 22:02.25 | Bushmills | who is? |
| 22:02.36 | streuner_ | egoga |
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| 22:02.40 | streuner_ | thanks |
| 22:02.43 | Bushmills | was he back? |
| 22:02.48 | streuner_ | yeah |
| 22:02.51 | Bushmills | ah |
| 22:03.00 | thewanderer1 | unclutter worked despite the hackiness, thanks |
| 22:03.03 | jelly-home | thanks the unseen hand |
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| 22:03.24 | jelly-home | "The program is released into the public domain. Only the considerate will leave credit for the author." |
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| 22:05.33 | rypervenche | Is it possible to install Mumble without having to install pulseaudio? I really don't want to install it :/ |
| 22:07.03 | streuner_ | rypervenche: apt-cache show <package> should show you about the depends |
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| 22:07.47 | thewanderer1 | rypervenche: use --no-install-recommends flag to apt-get |
| 22:08.11 | Bushmills | rypervenche: doesn't appear to be: http://deps.scarydevilmonastery.net/mumble.svg |
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| 22:08.48 | thewanderer1 | Bushmills: must be pulled in through recommends, I just ran a comparison of two invocations |
| 22:09.26 | kulps | Hey folks, I'm looking for some help with an OTRS install, the package description says it will contain a file that it ultimately does not. Does anybody have time to look at it with me? |
| 22:09.32 | Bushmills | eh, what? |
| 22:10.26 | megadelon | streuner: http://paste.debian.net/130060/ |
| 22:10.51 | streuner_ | omg |
| 22:11.04 | megadelon | antix |
| 22:11.11 | megadelon | created by smxi |
| 22:11.12 | streuner_ | megadelon: that doesnt look like a Debian sources.list... |
| 22:11.19 | streuner_ | great |
| 22:11.34 | namtorba | megadelon: this channel is for Debian support, not things based on Debian .. either install Debian or go find support elsewhere |
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| 22:12.11 | streuner_ | dpkg, mepis |
| 22:12.12 | dpkg | MEPIS is a live CD distribution based on Debian. SimplyMEPIS 11 (based on Squeeze), SimplyMEPIS 8.0/8.5 (based on Lenny) and antiX (based on <testing>) are not supported in #debian. http://www.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 22:13.23 | namtorba | kulps: it probably has more than one package .. did you try using dpkg -S ? |
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| 22:15.27 | kulps | namtorba: please excuse me, I'm pretty new to debian/linux, would it be dpkg -S packagename ? |
| 22:15.37 | namtorba | nope .. dpkg -S fliename |
| 22:15.39 | namtorba | filename |
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| 22:17.18 | kulps | namtorba: I swear I couldnt find it there before |
| 22:17.21 | kulps | but it's there now |
| 22:17.23 | kulps | thanks! |
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| 22:18.49 | namtorba | ok |
| 22:19.01 | jhutchins_lt | Mepis is a nice system, but it's not Debian. |
| 22:19.18 | namtorba | so why comment? |
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| 22:20.00 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: To elicit further off-topic traffic from people such as yourself ;-) |
| 22:20.26 | namtorba | what is wrong with you? |
| 22:20.47 | streuner_ | jhutchins_lt: thats not helpful... |
| 22:20.55 | jhutchins_lt | Mepis is one of the things that led me to Debian. |
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| 22:21.14 | namtorba | jhutchins_lt: knock it off |
| 22:21.18 | streuner_ | thats fine, but it doesnt help us |
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| 22:25.22 | Kre10s | what is /etc/alternatives? |
| 22:25.40 | Bushmills | !alternatives |
| 22:25.40 | dpkg | from memory, alternatives is the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. Have a look at the galternatives package or ask me about <update-alternatives> <java alternatives>. |
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| 22:29.08 | Kre10s | wouldn't it be simpler just to symlink php-cgi to php<version>-cgi ??? |
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| 22:30.03 | Bushmills | alternatives is a managed set of symlinks |
| 22:30.05 | mirco | Hi hi, I'm trying to connect to an rcapid host, but my libcapi (3.9.20060704+dfsg.2-4.1) doesn't seem to support the option REMOTE in capi20.conf |
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| 22:32.15 | jaggz | postfix's mail.log entries show my "echo whatever | mail my@address" is delivered to procmail, but I don't see any sign of it on the recipient server |
| 22:33.41 | jaggz | tested with another server too.. nothing. mail doesn't seem to be going out |
| 22:34.22 | kristian-aalborg | hi ppl |
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| 22:38.19 | Bushmills | jaggz: procmail should have to deal with incoming mail |
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| 22:39.32 | jaggz | hm |
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| 22:40.57 | jaggz | yeah that's the "mailbox_command". That doesn't make sense. |
| 22:41.32 | Bushmills | that may mean that mail is considered to go to a receiver on the same machine |
| 22:41.33 | Bushmills | recipient |
| 22:42.56 | jaggz | yeah.. I'm trying to figure out why that would be... mydestinations seems fine |
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| 22:44.20 | kristian-aalborg | alright, so I have a system sans X, and I want to change the "regular" font color from green to white... setterm is my pal, amirite? |
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| 22:47.53 | kristian-aalborg | aha! turns out the green is actually meant to be white |
| 22:47.55 | kristian-aalborg | hurm... |
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| 22:53.11 | nameless` | hi |
| 22:53.30 | nameless` | what are the limitation of the 64bits version face to the 32bits if any ? |
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| 22:54.07 | namtorba | face ? |
| 22:54.31 | jhutchins_lt | nameless`: Adobe flash doesn't work quite as well. |
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| 22:54.44 | nameless` | jhutchins_lt: it's for a server utilisation |
| 22:55.13 | namtorba | nameless`: your processes use more memory .. but otherwise, should be the same |
| 22:55.15 | jhutchins_lt | nameless`: Probably nothing then, but there's no real advantage either. |
| 22:55.30 | wols | nameless`: it needs more memory and cache |
| 22:55.44 | nameless` | ok so i may just install the 32 bits version.. |
| 22:55.56 | wols | nameless`: how much RAM does your server have? |
| 22:56.01 | nameless` | 2GB |
| 22:56.09 | wols | then use i386 |
| 22:56.16 | Bushmills | it requires a 64 bit capable cpu to run on |
| 22:56.23 | nameless` | ok, i'll do that, thank you |
| 22:56.36 | nameless` | ( Bushmills sure, it's atom 330) |
| 22:56.50 | Bushmills | small cache. |
| 22:57.07 | Bushmills | may even slow down things with 64 bit code |
| 22:58.11 | nameless` | ok |
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| 23:06.28 | RavenHursT | Can someone give me a hand w/ enabling php5-curl? the apt-get install isn't working for me :-( http://pastebin.com/tjKajiyB |
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| 23:08.21 | wols | RavenHursT: #ubuntu |
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| 23:09.10 | RavenHursT | wols: tried that.. no one's answering.. |
| 23:09.25 | wols | !they don't know |
| 23:09.26 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 23:10.33 | MrFrood | *other search solutions are available |
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| 23:11.53 | nameless` | i'm not sure to understand, if i want to install debian from usb key but i want it to download the package which iso file do i have to download ? i zcat boot.img.gz on my usb device, and now ? |
| 23:13.01 | nameless` | i guess it's debian live standart |
| 23:13.42 | MrFrood | cd1 or net-install I think |
| 23:14.32 | MrFrood | !usb install |
| 23:14.33 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 23:19.58 | acu | If I do dd can I clone a windowsXP machine and then open it with KVM ? |
| 23:20.23 | wols | acu: no |
| 23:20.46 | acu | wols: but about some kind of tar to .img ? |
| 23:21.01 | wols | it's not the copy utility which prevents it |
| 23:21.26 | TrueDD | Good night everybody |
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| 23:25.41 | nameless` | lol, i have a 2GB usb key and it's now seen as a 150MB usb key |
| 23:26.45 | namtorba | so what? you're just doing the install with it |
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| 23:28.54 | gary_golden | how can I install a single package from sid? |
| 23:29.21 | MrFrood | !ssb |
| 23:29.21 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 23:32.19 | somiaj | gary_golden: short answer is you don't (its not the single package that is usually the issue its all the libaries and core files it depends on are from sid too, and once you pull in sid core packages your system will most likely have lots of unexpected bugs -- check that factoid from dpkg |
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| 23:33.30 | gary_golden | somiaj: MrFrood: that package (phpunit) is platform independent and doesn't require any binary libraries |
| 23:33.53 | gary_golden | I would like to not build it myself, but pull from repo |
| 23:33.58 | somiaj | gary_golden: if you meet the dependencies, you can download it and install it with dpkg -i |
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| 23:34.11 | somiaj | gary_golden: just realize you won't get any secuirity updates |
| 23:35.41 | gary_golden | that's ok. I added deb sid line to sources.list, updated phpunit, then removed the line. everything went fine |
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| 23:42.15 | chmod577 | ooooh glitch-mod u like the glitch mob? |
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| 23:46.56 | Karen_m | I setup an ipv6, but noticed that an ipv6 address got added somewhere, somehow. I noticed that it's similar to the loop back.. fe08::<same address as these> |
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| 23:47.59 | peterS | Karen_m: fe08:: means link-local. all IPv6 interfaces have one. it's how you talk to other machines on the same ethernet segment - it is not routed by routers. |
| 23:48.17 | peterS | Karen_m: errr, sorry, no, I'm thinking of fe80::, not fe08:: |
| 23:49.43 | Karen_m | peterS, but I have ..:9a4b:e1ff:fe7f:c09a pop up. I did whatismyipv6.com, and it reports that ip. I wondered where it came from. I also see fe80::9a4b:e1ff:fe7f:c09a/64 |
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| 23:50.18 | peterS | Karen_m: the 9a4b:e1ff:fe7f:c09a portion is based on your network card's MAC address. that's why it's the same for both your IPv6 addresses |
| 23:51.35 | Karen_m | neat |
| 23:51.37 | Karen_m | thank you |
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| 23:52.38 | peterS | Karen_m: from that MAC I can deduce that your network card (maybe the whole motherboard) is from HP (: |
| 23:53.34 | peterS | (the first 6 digits are 9a4be1, subtract 2 from the second digit, look up 98:4b:e1, it's owned by HP) |
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| 23:55.05 | Karen_m | yep ! |
| 23:55.11 | Karen_m | lw uses hp :) |
| 23:55.12 | Karen_m | leaseweb |
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